to even jihadist groups. And the way I do that is not by arguing with them, not by debating them, not by even telling them they're wrong, even though, boy, I want to sometimes. I don't do that. Instead, I don't push them away.
a grupos jihadistas. La manera en que lo hago es no discutiendo con ellos, no debatiéndoles, ni siquiera diciéndoles que están equivocados, a pesar de que a veces quiero. No hago eso. Al contrario, no los rechazo.