I'd say back to him, "No, it's not." And he would say, "Yes it is, Gretchen." And I would say, "No it's not." But people at home would see that, and they'd be like, "Wow, I should be watching the number one show on TV." And — lo and behold — it became the number one show on TV.
Y yo le decía, "No, no lo es". Pero mucha gente en casa veía esto y pensaba, "Oh, debo ver el show de TV número uno".