So in a way, if we were to say we need to continue this endless growth, endless use of material resources, it's like if this man was saying — and I heard a former head of state, I won't mention who, saying — "Five years ago, we were at the edge of the precipice.
En cierta forma, si quisiéramos continuar este crecimiento sin fin, este uso ilimitado de recursos materiales, es como si este hombre dijera — lo oí de un ex jefe de Estado, no voy a decir quién — "Hace 5 años, estábamos al borde del precipicio.