CA: So some, I guess many liberals out there view Trump and his government as kind of irredeemably bad, just awful in every way. Do you see any underlying narrative or political philosophy in there that is at least worth understanding? How would you articulate that philosophy? Is it just the philosophy of nationalism?
CA: Entonces algunos, o supongo, muchos liberales ven a Trump y su gobierno irremediablemente mal, simplemente horrible en todas sus formas. ¿Ves alguna narrativa de fondo o filosofía política allí que valga la pena comprender? ¿Cómo articularías esa filosofía? ¿Es esa la filosofía del nacionalismo?