And it was interesting to me — my background is in sociology; I had no design training, and sometimes people say, well, that explains it — but it was a very interesting experiment because there's no product that I had to sell; it was simply the image of Microsoft they were trying to improve.
Y me interesaba... me formé en sociología; no en diseño y a veces dicen, bueno, eso explica todo... pero fue un experimento muy interesante porque no había producto que vender; sencillamente intentaban mejorar la imagen de Microsoft.