I said, "If I can't get the craft that I want, I'll use the craft I can get." There were plenty of models for that, in Rauschenberg and Jasper Johns, and many artists who were making beautiful art and sculpture with junk materials.
Y dije: "Si no consigo el material que quiero usaré el que pueda conseguir". Y hubo muchas maquetas para eso en Rauschenberg y Jasper Johns, y muchos artistas que hicieron arte y esculturas hermosas con trastos.