And when I have conversations with people, I remember having a conversation, for example, in Iraq, with a community that asked me whether the riot we were seeing in front of us, this was a huge mob ransacking a provincial council building, was a sign of the new democracy.
Y cuando hablo con la gente, recuerdo, por ejemplo, una conversación en Irak, con una comunidad que me preguntaba si los disturbios que veíamos al frente, — una gran multitud saqueando un edificio provincial — eran el signo de la nueva democracia.