But I'm not here to insult you *wink-wink* no, really *crap eating grin*   You may be a new user (and what an apt term user is in this case) but your ploy is old.   C'mon, admit it -you just wanna preach, and flounce your condescending attitude. Or perhaps, like your USER name implies, you're hoping your thread will be locked, thus proving that you must be so dangerously clever, that all we rednecks tremble in fear of your gospel. Absolutely nothing of the sort. I will not stoop to your level and reply to this, further than stating, again, that I am only here out of interest and curiosity to find out what makes such a remarkable and bizarre (to me) sub-culture tick.