There are a few Chinese listed here for reasonable prices.     http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=7&amp;f=93        I prefer the AK and you can build your own for about $250 but they are very difficult to build. You can pickup a used MAK-90 for around $350-$450. Look around your local area for used guns on  www.ar15.com  you can pick your state out of the hometown forum and use the state Equipment Exchange to find local private party sales there. You can get some hot deals there.