[quote=IymDaBlakGuy;5880091] Source? Because the album that blew Kraftwerk up, Computer World and mainly the track Numbers didn't come out until 1981. That album was AWESOME!!! I still listen to it. You'll have to excuse the WIKI, but house came out of disco...another mainly Black phenomena and grew into techno. And then got HUGE in the UK. Making it VERY expensive to get a good fresh techno/trace collection. Thank goodness for ebay.   Not to mention that there is nothing Kraftwerk made in the early 80's that could be considered actual techno. It's more electro. Even today. It was too slow. Disco wasn't Black:rolleyes: Yes, Kraftwerk was the first Techno and Juan Atkins himself said so in interviews numerous times. Those oreos (black on the outside white on the inside) from the suburbs of Detroit made Detroit Techno, just like I said, Techno with a more Disco and Funk influenced rhythm. I will find the interview for you later on a Google search I promise.;) That is if I remember. I don't feel like searching for that crap right now. You do not know what you're talking about. So stop telling lies negro. Kraftwerk had been around since the early 70s and their first real big single and album was Trans Europa Express in 1977 not 1981, and Juan Atkins and the Belleville 3 were not making Techno as early as 81 anyhow, no one knew who they were.     Atkins' earliest  enthusiasm was for Kraftwerk and Giorgio Moroder , and he recalls with particular enthusiasm Moroder's work with Donna Summer and the producer's own album E=MC2.  Around 1980 I had a tape of nothing but Kraftwerk, Telex, Devo, Giorgio Moroder and Gary Numan, and I'd ride around in my car playing it.      .I had people come up to me and say they thought Cybotron was some white guys from Europe. ;) People couldn't believe we were actually Detroit musicians. We sold between 7000 and 10,000 copies of that record in Detroit.    .My concept was that the Kraftwerks, Telexes and Devos were good but they weren't funky. I felt that if I could take that type of music and add a funky element to it then it would be a smash. We did that, but we just didn't get recognised. Soul Sonic Force came along and beat us to it.   http://www.mobeus.org/archives/juanatkins/    This is from Juan Atkins' official myspace page.       Atkins coined the term techno to describe their music, taking as one inspiration the works of futurist and author Alvin Toffler , from whom he borrowed the terms cybotron and metroplex.  Atkins has used the term techno to describe earlier bands that made heavy use of synthesizers such as Kraftwerk,  although many people would consider Kraftwerk's music and Juan's early music in Cybotron as Electro. Techno is considered today as a specific genre.