White resistance 14- Can't get the multi quote thing to work so I just kind of went issue by issue...    Whether hatred is warranted or not I would argue that there is not one historical reference that can be cited where it helped rather than hindered a long term goal. In the long run its the very thing that brings down every ideological movement that uses it for a power base.    I did use it for a negative purpose, as did every one that I knew that was of like mind. Much like every one else that has used hate to fuel their agenda in the past, whether in a positive or negative way, it does not produce favorable long term results.    I highly dissagree that the American dream is dead. I, like my forefathers, have bled for it and watched my brothers die for it. The brain washed masses are beginning to wake the hell up and see whats going on in our country, though I fear it is too late for a political change. At this point we have two options; 1) Ride it out and try to rebuild after the ensuing sh!t storm is over, or 2) TAKE our country back. And as a side note... You're damn right I'm disgusted with our current political situation.    As for the question of diversity... that is a muddled topic. Yes I believe that ALL cultures and races should be afforded the same basic human rights. The question of how those ideals can exist without detriment to one specific race or culture can be answered simply. Get rid of things like affirmative action, diversity, and anything not explicitly detailed in the constitution. The American dream is about sink or swim, you either have the stones to succeed or you don't. The lazy will be weeded out, which often times are those of non-European decent.    On the topic of nationalism, every WN, or at least those that claim to be, that I've met in person were supremacist and instead of focusing on advancing their people they focused on undermining the accomplishments of other races and cultures... not to mention conducting themselves in the same manner as those that they were so virulently apposed to. So no, in my experience with WN's, they are not advocating anything different than the black or hispanic hoards. Maybe I've just been around a bad lot but the ones I've met are not far from, and often no different, than the POS gang bangers of any other race.     As far as hate destroying the things we love; I agree that there is nothing inherently hateful about wanting to preserve your culture, however, like I said before, can you give me one historical instance in which hate has bettered rather than contributed to the decline of a specific culture? It never works. If we spent half the time we do worrying about advancing our own people and communities as some of us do worrying about what other races/cultures are doing the long term goal could be met in an incredibly short amount of time.     As for if I consider myself an American or not, of course I do. To say that if some one who stands behind the ideals of their country is a nationalist is yet again a muddled topic. If you were to say that I subscribe to The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals. than yes I would be a nationalist. However in the context of WN, I do not believe that America is solely for whites, I believe that it is for those who have the drive to succeed and to make a better life for themselves and their children.    Any delusions that I may have are based upon my experiences with real people who have identified themselves as WN, NSM, WHAT EVER, and the way that they conduct themselves day to day... as apposed to on a forum where all I can see is their words and not deeds. Most of them spew the same rhetoric but act exactly like the very people that they claim are destroying our race... all the while contributing to the problem rather than creating a solution. It is possible that I've just been around a bad lot, or so I would like to assume. I would hope that it is equally possible that I will find someone on here that is not like the others that I've come across before. Hence this post, I'm merely trying to see if there are actually any people out there that believe in advancing our race and culture based on our deeds, ability to thrive, succeed, and prosper rather than purely out of ignorant hatred of cultures that are different.