CaptainIntolerance, (and this better go through) Are you trying to put me on blast or something? Trying to figure out what type of ****** I am? LOL. Many people already explained to you very well in this thread why he wasn't a WN. From the fact that WNs did not exist then, to the point that he was just looking out for his peeps only which was natural for cultures to do back then not being able to identify with others.   All the way from the main Idea, dude had Black kids sittin there talking about  the negros are to be free when he the main one screwing the **** out of em and owning them. He is a contradicting hypocrite. Wait a minute, let me rephrase that... a SMARTcontradicting hypocrite as many white politicians were back in the day.  By the way, are you serious. People gotta sit here and WAIT for their posts to be approved? So, so, can some kind of permission be authorized because alot of posts here in Opposing views are about Black men and I'd seriously like to debate em for at least a while out in the open. But if its gon take dat long... Dang man. Thomas Jefferson WAS a White Nationalist. I proved that beyond any doubt in my previous post, just look at his quotes about Blacks not being able to live within the same government as Whites and wanting to repatriate them to Africa..... You are right, back then the term White Nationalist did not exist, but he was one, but we had another name for it back then: American Nationalist. If TJ were alive today make no mistake about it he would be a WN just like us, he would probably be posting on SF:clink    There is no real proof that TJ ever had sexual relations with his slaves or had illegitimate children with them as far as I know. It's just rumor. And guess what? If a slave owner wanted to screw his own slave girls then that was his prerogative! He owned them, they were his property he could do whatever he wanted. To make a long story short TJ wanted slaves to be freed and sent to Africa, there is no doubt about that, and he didn't believe anyone non White could or should ever be an American, plain and simple. That makes him a White Nationalist even if the term did not exist back then. Get over it, the fore founders of this country did not want Blacks or other non Whites to be Americans, not at all. Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Andrew Jackson, even Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt would all be labeled as racist hate mongering white supremacist evil bigots if they were around today. They would also be labeled as White Nationalists.    PS- Maybe if you would learn to speak proper English and not all of this mamma jamma ebonics jibberish you would get more respect from White people. Just a thought.