  Here's a list of some famous recent Ju Jitsu fighters that have been beaten by Judoka ~   Judo wins over BJJ/GJJ The following is a list of recent judoka who defeated top BJJ men.  (1) Akira Shoji (Black belt in judo but no title in judo) knocked out Wallid Ismael (8 times BJJ champion who has defeated Renzo Gracie, Ralph Gracie, and Royce Gracie) in R2 in Pride 4.  (2) Igor Zinoviev (Black belt but only a local (NY and NJ) title in judo) defeated Mario Sperry (3 times world champion in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu). He knocked out Enson Inoue in 44 seconds in 1996 Vale Tudo Japan.  (3) Don Frye (2nd degree black belt in judo) defeated Amaury Bitetti (1995 world champion in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) by TKO in UFC8. Don Frye spent a lot of time practicing judo before the bout with Amaury Bitetti. Frye knew that by practicing authentic judo, he would be completely prepared to take on the BJJ world champion Amaury Bitetti. That is why Frye looked so confident before the match, and he proved himself as we all know. After Don Frye won the Ultimate Ultimate 1996, Jeff Blatnick said to Frye that  Your submission skills have greatly improved. Frye then said, I spent a lot of time practicing judo. These top BJJ fighters were unable to submit these totally unknown judoka who had no title in judo and lost the bouts in NHB. If BJJ is so much better than judo, then why did these top names in BJJ failed to apply any submission hold on the ground? The fact is that top BJJ fighters were defeated in NHB matches by no name judoka means that it is not very difficult for highly trained judoka to defend themselves against submission holds. Learn true judo, then you will learn to beat BJJ black belts on the ground.  (4) Yasuichi Ono choked out Jorge Gracie (Helio Gracie's older brother) circa 1950. These are four cases in which no name judoka defeated top BJJ fighters.  (5) Masahiko Kimura (7th dan BB undefeated for 13 years in judo) defeated Helio Gracie (the self-proclaimed founder of Gracie Jiu Jitsu) by breaking two bones in the left arm of Helio, by udegarami. Helio Gracie was hospitalized for multiple fractures. In this bout, Helio was unable to score any counter or reverse. Kimura defeated Helio on the ground using a ground technique which is supposed to be BJJ's strength. To this day in MMA circles the ude garami armlock is known as the Kimura in his honour.  (6) In 1974, Wilhelm Ruska (1972 Olympics judo gold medalist in over 95kg class and absolute division) destroyed Iwan Gomes (then the no. 1 man in BJJ) by punches on the ground in a vale tudo match. (5) and (6) are records of what happened when top BJJ men fought top judoka. In both of these cases, these BJJ men were brave enough to challenge top judoka. But the bouts ended in executions by judoka.  (8) Royce Gracie was choked out in Pride by retired Judo Olympian Yoshida.        This is quite a recent phenomena where Judoka try to prove how Judo is superior to BJJ. You probably copied that from Judo-planet or somewhere. I'm going to respond to each of those statements.    First, consider the number of Judokas compared to BJJ practicioners. BJJ started out with one family practicing it. Compare this to the huge numbers of Judokas that were in the world at that time.    (1) Notice how he won by strikes; a non-Judo technique. So don't try to give credit to Judo for that.    (6) Won by strikes - a non-Judo technique    (6) Won by strikes - a non-Judo technique    (4) Correct. Yasuichi Ono never defeated Helio Gracie though.    (5) The Judo top fighter from a massive number of Judo practitioners in the 1950's defeated the top BJJ fighter from a very small number of BJJ practitioners. Kimura also outweighed Helio by over 20 kilograms; with Helio weighing 63 kg. Hardly anything to brag about.    (6) Won by strikes - a non-Judo technique    (7) Correct. Parisyan however isn't using only Judo.    (8) Royce Gracie was never choked out by Yoshida. Royce never submitted, and was conscious when Yoshida released his grip. The referee made a mistake.     Brazilian Ju Jitsu is very popular just now but they always come up second best against Judo. The famous BJJ Gracie family in particular have had arms broken and been choked out by Judoka. A retired Neil Adams (famous British Judo champ) also tied the Gracies in knots at one of his armlock seminars in the US. The difference in class between a top Olympic Judoka and the BJJ guys is huge. Traditional Ju Jitsu also fared poorly against Judo to the extent that the word Ju Jitsu only really exists oversea's now and has been completely displaced in Japan by Judo. Judo even became compulsory in Japanese schools at one point.  Do I have to count the number of BJJ fighters in the top Mixed martial arts world compared to the number of Judokas? How can you compare a top Olymic Judoka with BJJ guy? That's like comparing an olympic sprinter to a regular-joe long distance runner.    In your eight points you've managed to actually make two points. I wonder how many points I could make to undermine Judo's usefulness in the mixed martial arts world compared to BJJ.