Was so, and you aren't convincing me otherwise with your Buddy Bolden crap. They were the first Jazz band. Stop telling lies. Jew. The first band to advertise as a Jass band was Stein's Dixieland Jass Band(Stein wasn't a Jew), which would later become the Original Dixieland Jass Band, until they changed the spelling to Jazz. Unless you count the RDSB copycat group/cover band that called themselves the Razzy Dazzy JAZZY Band in 1900. They were teenage street kids. This is why early Jazz was so unprofessional sounding, improvisational and juvenile sounding. Bolden wasn't much older. The RDSB was formed in 1895. Bolden was born in 1877 he would have been only 18 at the time himself. By 1907 he had a complete mental breakdown and was institutionalized until his death in 1931, he was buried in an unmarked grave. The leader of the RDSB Emile Lacoume was buried in a real grave, and his tombstone mentions the fact that he WAS the leader of the FIRST Jazz band. Not that Buddy Bolden mother whoring pimp, loser who made songs about flatulence. :rolleyes:  That he was. No it's not. Ragtime is not Jazz. It was a similar , precursor to Jazz. In the late 1880s he would have been about 10-13 years old:rolleyes: He was probably playing stick ball and hop scotch, not Jazz.:D Of course not, White people gave it that name. Jazz is White terminology and slang. Creole=WHITE just FYI. A Creole is what they called a French or Spaniard who was born in New Orleans. Then these half breed, mulatto mongrels started calling themselves Creoles too and now some people have the misconception that a Creole is a Black/French mongrel but it's not. They hijacked the term. The real Creoles were the New Orleans born French and Spaniards and their descendants, those are Creoles. A true Creole will never recognize a mulatto as being Creole. That is an improper use of the term. So, Creoles are White people. Just like Cajuns. But mutt breed mulattos try to say they're Creoles too because they have French blood :rolleyes: They don't count to a real Creole. Hmpf, how dare they call themselves Creole. Yes, they did. Those Blacks and mongrels weren't playing Jazz. The Razzy Dazzy Spasm Band was the first to play Jazz. They were a big deal back in those days, they were very popular in New Orleans. They spawned many immitators. These were no ordinary teenagers, they were hardened, parentless street kids, raised in the mean streets of 19th century New Orleans. Buddy Bolden was only 18 at the time the RDSB started playing JAZZ. He was barely any older.  Of course they were. That is irrefutable. Excuses is all I hear. Jazz is White. There was plenty of Blues music(they called it race music back then) performed by Blacks that got recorded back in those days. They didn't not record them just because they were Black. It's called Dixieland. Nick LaRocca and the ODJB claimed to have invented Jazz, and in their minds they did. Because before they came along Jazz sounded much different. They didn't create Jazz, they created Dixieland Jazz, along with Tom Brown and his Band from Dixieland, and other lesser known White Jazz players at the time. But...Jazz has always been Whtie originated music in the first place:cool: And..even if you think Blacks were the first to play Jazz(which is what you think) where did all of the musical theory come from? From Western influences or from Africa land?:rolleyes: Western. Marching Band, French Quadrilles, Spanish music, even Polka. And it was played on European originated instruments. So either way you want to look at it it's incorrect and unfair to describe it as Black music. But the first people to play Jazz were indeed, White people. Whether you choose to believe it or not makes no difference to me so long as I know. Yeah right. The ODJB was the most influential band of that time period, simply due to being the first to record, first to play in NYC and first to play in London. Not to mention being the main originators of the Dixieland style. Also, Tom Brown, the New Orleans Rhythm Kings, Louisiana Five, Original New Orleans Jazz Band, Sharkey Bonano, Emmett Hardy, and Louis Prima were extremely influential White Jazz musicians of this era. If you don't think so, then you don't know what you are talking about. It seems to me..you are only emphasing the Black influence on Jazz and not the White..You are letting your hatred for the White race distort your view of history:D You shouldn't be like that. No. Gerry Mulligan was not a Jew(but Lee Konitz WAS a JEW just like Paul Whiteman and Benny Goodman), neither were Lennie Tristano, Chet Baker, Jimmy Guiffre(pronounced Jew-Free:D), Bob James, Chick Corea, Keith Jarrett, Gil Evans, Clare Fischer, Gene Krupa, Glenn Miller(the king of big band!), Bud Shank, Cal Tjader, David Sanborn, or Bill Evans who had a big impact on the style of Miles Davis.  In 1958, Evans was hired by , becoming the only white member of his famed sextet. Though his time with the band was brief — no more than eight months — it was one of the most fruitful collaborations in the history of jazz, as Evans's introspective scalar approach to improvisation deeply influenced Davis's conception. Davis loved the sound Evans got from the piano. At the time Evans was playing block chords and Davis wrote in his autobiography Bill had this quiet fire that I loved on piano. The way he approached it, the sound he got was like crystal notes or sparkling water cascading down from some clear waterfall. Evans also played piano on Miles Davis's BEST and most influential album IMO and in the opinion of many others, Kind of Blue. He even wrote/co wrote a few of the songs. Bill Evans is hands down one of the most influential and greatest Jazz pianists, ever. Possibly The most influential and greatest Jazz pianist. He even won 8 Grammy awards!   During his lifetime, Evans was honored with seven Grammy Awards and nominations. In 1994, he was posthumously honored with the .   Evans's contribution to the album was overlooked for years; in addition to co-writing the song , he had also already developed the  from the track Flamenco Sketches on the 1958 solo recording Peace Piece from his album . Evans also penned the heralded liner notes for Kind of Blue, comparing the improvisation of jazz to  art. By the fall of 1959, he had started his own trio.  I wasn't aware that they were playing Jazz in Africa, utilizing European instruments and Western aka White musical theory:D Oh, and yes, the first Jazz was White. There are plenty of people who agree with me, believe it or not. They just don't like to let that side of the story onto the television or what not. The liberal media must perpetuate the myth/lie/misconeption that Jazz is Black originated music to boost the negros egos. To make them feel that they have contributed something to America other than crime, AIDS and urban blight. To make them feel as if they have something to call their own. Like I said, even if Blacks were the first to play Jazz and give it it's name(which they were not), they are still playing European instruments, they are utilizing Western musical theories, not African. They weren't playing Jazz 200 years ago in Africa. Nothing even similar. But alot of Marching Band, Classical and French and Spanish ethnic music sounds awfully similar to being Jazz doesn't it? There is alot of 200 or 300 year old European music that sounds much much more similar to Jazz than any 200 or 300 year old traditional sub saharan African music:rolleyes: If you think otherwise you are a madman. So even if Blacks were the first to play it(they weren't) it's still not Black music because it is played with White instruments, utilizing Western musical theory and with Western influences such as Classical, Marching Band and French quadrilles, and the Spanish aka Latin tinge. So either way you look at it..no..the musical DNA of Jazz is not Black. Sorry.  uh huh..sure...Jazz sounds much more similar to African music than Marching Band and Classical and traditional French and Spanish music or even Polka, sure I'll believe you;) What are these Black invented instruments used to play Jazz again? Saxophone? Trumpet, trombone, clarinet, tuba, piano, cornet?? Where are the Black originate musical instruments in Jazz exactly? Where is this 2 or 3 hundred year old Black/African music that sounds as similar to Jazz as 2or 3 hundred year old European/White Marching Band music, Classical music and French and Spanish ethnic music? ;) Jazz is the first American born musical genre? No. That would probably be Hillbilly/Oldtime music, Country music, and American Folk music. Ragtime also precedes Jazz.  No, the root of modern hip hop as we now know it. All of the old skool 80s rap would have been impossible if it were not for influences from Kraftwerk, like the so called breakbeat and such... If it were not for Kraftwerk rap would be nothing more than Blacks rhyming words about how cool they are to ripped off Funk and Disco music, nothing like what it was in the 80s, nothing like what it is now. rap/hip hop as we know it would not exist if it were not for Kraftwerk and negro rappers ripping off their beats and techniques. I never claimed otherwise. Who cares. Disco isn't Black music either:rolleyes: Since when, jeez now even Disco is Black. What next? Polka? It sucks. And it's on it's way out. Kids are getting sick of it. Especially White kids. Right. No it doesn't. Whoever said I hate the Black race? I hate the Black race claiming credit for White musical styles. That's all:mad: Since when? News to me. I hate thieves.  I give credit where credit is due. They did not create Jazz. There are some good Black Jazz musicians, some of my favorite Jazz musicians happen to be Black guys like Herbie Hancock, Grover Washington Jr., Charlie Parker and Miles Davis. But Blacks didn't create Jazz, Whites did. I give credit where credit is due. I can't help it if I don't play along with the politically correct lies to boost the Blacks fragile egos. I simply give credit where credit is due. Always. That's because the liberal media buries the RDSB because they don't fit into the myth of Jazz being Black music. Kids? Your God Buddy Bolden was only 18 when they formed their band, he was a kid too pal. Also, these were teenage street kids, they grew up on the streets of New Orleans, not your average little teenage kids mind you. Louis Armstong sucks, he's annoying and was only popular because the Jewish Karnofsky family used their Jew connections to hype him up. If it were not for the Jewish Karnofsky family no one would have ever heard of Louis Armstrong, he would have died and been buried in an unmarked grave just like that mother whoring pimp Buddy Bolden. Also, Emmett Hardy was known for outplaying Louis Armstrong in cutting contests in New Orleans. If he was king why did that White boy outplay him? The world's largest Jazz festival in Europe? I doubt that. Right. Jews aren't real Europeans I hope you know that, they don't count. :p I don't care what you think. Hey, go turn on a modern , contemporary Jazz station, you will be listening to mosty White Jazz musicians. The majority of modern day Jazz musicians and fans are WHITE. The negros latched onto our music for a while, but we took it back anyways. Go to a Jazz club in Chicago like I do sometimes, it's nothing but White people for the most part, a negro here and there in the audience. Most of the musicians are White too. Jazz got too complex and the negros couldn't hang onto our music anymore they got shook off like fleas. Left in the dust. Just like Rock, they latched onto it at first, then it got too complex and they disappeared, too much for them. The contemporary Jazz scene is dominated by Whites, both musicians and fans. So I'm not worried.