  Add to that list of weapons the first land mine, naval mine, two-piston pump flamethrower.   -Is that all you can do is list inventions?   I say Whites conquered the World, you say China invented this and that, what are you getting at? I dont understand how these inventions, out weigh the achievement of World Domination? Or the Moon Landing? Or the unleashing of the Power of the Atom .       From the Romans, the Western world inherited bureaucracy, law, a unified language and written system under Latin, and after Constantine, a unified religious order.   -I know, but since the Western world dominated the rest of the World, the rest of the World inherited it too, if China or other Neo-Chinas dominated the world and we inherited that stuff from them it would be different, but that never happened, so Rome (Western Civilization) more Important, China (Eastern Civilization) less Important, or are you trying to argue that China had more of an impact on the World then Rome (Western Civilization)?......        However, the Chinese influenced the world through diffusion of several key technologies.   -I am not saying they did not influence the World, I am saying there influence was puny in comparison to Whites .But a lot better then the other Races, I give you that. Chinese(North East Asians) are still 2nd place though, and you can go ahead and list all the inventions and crap you want to, it doesnt change reality, and the reality is most Chinese would give up there right hand to be White, or live a good live in a White country, how many Whites would do the same?  .. Other then your self that is (lol) How many people would, want to live in China?    or be Chinese . Not a lot, thats why there all moving here, thats why there all trying to adopt are Civilization/Culture to..       Since you didn't read what I wrote about Kanji in the following two sentences in the post I made above, it makes one wonder how much of my post you actually read before replying. If you're not going to read my post, why bother replying at all? That's like going to class and hearing a professor give a lecture, and then walking up at the end of class and asking, so what was it that we learned today?   -You dont have to ignorant about it, I did read everything you said, but I know that languages and Alphabets evolve; it could have changed, just because it was the same 1000 yrs ago, doesnt mean it is the same today .I just wanted clarification and evidence.       Are you sure you want me to respond to any of your questions? With the example above, how will I be sure that you'll pay attention to any of them? It would probably save us both a lot of time if I don't answer your questions, since you won't read the answers, but if you really, honestly, genuinely want to know more about China then feel free to ask.   -I think it is you who are not reading what I am writing, I never said China never influenced the World it did, a little (lol)  . I am saying that Neo-Chinas/Chinese Influence Civilizations didnt do much, if anything, well Roman and Greek influenced states, did more then the Greeks and Romans.        Yes, Japan reached its modern martial zenith upon adopting Western models of warfare and technology   -Not to mention, that is when it begun to exerted the most influence in the World, in terms of Soft-Power and Economic Power Japan was not much under Eastern Influence, Japan is everything under Western Influence.        What would the Japanese have done without a writing system? Without a model of governmental order and organization? Without the Chinese precedent for so many different aspects that allowed their civilization to flourish in the first place? And you ask how Chinese influence on their civilization even matters? I don't understand your logic.   -I dont know what they would have done, I dont care frankly, I made my point about Japan becoming powerful because of Western Civilization. My logic was that Western Civilization is obviously superior then Eastern Civilization.       Think what?   -Its easy for China to dominate the place, when most of the people are already Chinese, and most the land all ready in Chinese hands.       Probably for the best, the West has so much to offer.   -Tisk Tisk  . I thought China (hence Eastern Civilization) is equal, to us.       Besides aspirations of taking back Taiwan, China does not have global ambitions for conquest.   -Cause you can really read there minds? Or no what there actions, they are going to take in the future  Fact is China is over-populated, over polluted, and eventually there are going to look for more living space, and resources  Like they have always done, then there going to over-populate and destroy those areas to  much like a Virus.       Although the Romans did not have their own unique scientific tradition that could rival that of Greek and Hellenistic science (which continued as a tradition regardless after Rome conquered Greece and expanded further), the Romans still had much to boast in innovation: mechanical cranes used for lifting and building, concrete mixes for construction, plumbing and sanitation facilities, siege weapons like the onager, the counting device of the Roman abacus, etc.   -Okay .So?..Again what are you getting at?       This reminds me of one of the most important military doctrines in history, easily rivaling the Chinese Sun Tzu; the 6th century Byzantine Greek manual of military strategy known as the Strategikon.   -I own and have read the Art of War various times, good book, the only Chinese literature I have enjoyed, Sun Tzu must have been a White Man   lol  .  -Strategikon I have heard about, but have never been to get my hands on, so I cannot commit on it, have you read it?       A little disappointed in you, go read books,   -I am so hurt :(  .Curse my inability to know every single little thing about China, like Great ImperatorTrajan all Hail Trajan lord master of China .and of everything Chinese .        and animal rights abusers in mainland China.    -Your not being very tolerant of the Chinese Culture, now are you, just because they like to kill everything, and eat everything, doesnt mean you have a right to judge them.    -Seriously though how can you say        but to support Chinese people   -and then go and say       animal rights abusers in mainland China   -Its the Chinese people that are doing it, Chinese people come to my country all the time and kill are wildlife, mostly bears for there medicine, they kill this beautiful animal for one thing there Genitals, then they just leave the rest . Its really sick, they should no be allowed here in the first place, we have to protect nature, from the Evil Chinese Empire.        The Chinese are never going to push a war over Taiwan as long as the US, a military superpower whose known to react with violence when pressed with violence, will act for Taiwan.   -I think White people should mind there own business, we should never evolve are selfs in a War with the Chinese over Taiwan, if Taiwanese want to fight and Die for there independence let them, but no way in hell should White people but there lives on the line for them, like we did in Korea, that was a big mistake, bunch of good White lives sacrificed for nothing, most Koreans today dont even like America, ungrateful S.o.Bs, we should have let the commies devour them .  -The Korean War was ALL of South Koreas fault anyway, they thought they would win, and when there taken by complete surprise and got there a$$s handed to them, then they cry foul and call in the White man to save them . Like usual, its always up to the White man to help everybody, but his own of course.