yep. Start a music thread and see:D  Have so:D The first jazz band was the Razzy Dazzy Spasm Band which was formed in 1890s New Orleans and was all White, says myself, says Herbert Asbury and says alot of people who know better. Prove it wrong? You can't prove it wrong, and if you don't want to believe me then I could care less. The first band to use the word jazz(jazzy actually) was the RDSB rip off/cover group the Razzy Dazzy JAZZY Band in 1900 New Orleans, look it up and see if I make this up. The first band after that to use the word Jass, was Stein's Dixieland Jass Band(Stein wasn't a Jew by the way), which would later become known as the Original Dixieland Jass Band, and then they would eventually change the spelling of Jass to Jazz because people would scratch off the J on their promotional posters:p Prove it wrong, you can't. The first Jazz band to record Jazz music and thus the band most responsible for popularizing Jazz around the USA and Europe was the ODJB, they cut the first Jazz recordings in 1917. For the majority of Americans and over in Britain at the time, their first exposure to Jazz music was by way of the early ODJB recordings. One of these people was named Bix Beiderbecke, maybe you've heard of him? One of the greatest Jazz musicians of all time and all of his main influences and musical idols were White Dixieland Jazz players. Louis Armstrong couldn't praise Bix enough, Bix was one of the greatest and he died young like the greats usually do. The ODJB was also the first Jazz band to play in NYC, and in London. The ODJB is the band most responsible for popularizing Jazz, and their original recordings set the standard for many Jazz songs and players to come. Do you disagree with this? If so, you are dumb and are denying undeniable historical fact, although historical fact that is often overlooked by Blacks, liberals and of course..the liberal media who wishes to perpetuate the myth/lie/misconception that Jazz is a purely Black music and that Blacks were playing Jazz back in Africa land:roflMentioning the fact that the first Jazz band, first band to call themselves a Jazz band or use the word Jazz in a musical context, first to record Jazz, first Jazz band to play in NYC or London or the first Jazz band to play in Chicago(Tom Brown and his Band from Dixieland), were all White people would shatter this myth once and for all. They like to ignore the White influence on Jazz, as you accuse me of ignoring the Black influence. Some other White men who were very important in the early, formative years of Jazz music other than the RDSB, ODJB and Tom Brown are people like Papa Jack Laine, Emmett Hardy(big influence on Bix Beiderbecke and many others, known to have outplayed Louis Armstrong in cutting contests), the Louisiana Five, the New Orleans Rhythm Kings, Original New Orleans Jazz Band, Sharkey Bonano, Louis Prima, etc...And this is just the early, formative years of Jazz. There are many more highly influential White Jazz players since. But people usually like to ignore these people, and only focus on Blacks...hm...I wonder why.  Yes, modern hip hop as we know it. Old skool rap from the 80s. Before the 80s, in rap/hip hop's infancy in 1970s Boogie down Bronx they used to rip off Funk songs and Disco songs and rap over them. But then they started ripping off Kraftwerk's Electronic beats and that paved the way for rap/hip hop as we know it, which utilized the Kraftwerk originated break beats, and other Electronic beats rather than ripped off Funk music. Right? Only in your own mind, Mr. Goldstein.   There would be no hip hop as we know it. It would be negros rhyming words over ripped off Funk music, rather than the Electronic/break beat/old skool style that is what most of us think of when we think of rap/hip hop music. They also really love ripping off music from the WHITE, and very talented and influential Jazz musician Bob James:D He's one of the most sampled aka ripped off artists of all time. It doesn't exist:p It was trash from day one. They didn't have all of the glorification of crime and bad language in the early days but it was still all boasting and bragging, materialistic, misogynistic, egotistical BS. I doubt that.It is negative for everyone. Just look what that trash does to White and Asian kids:rolleyes: hip hop music is the downfall of civilization as we know it. It turns people into materialistic, egotistical, promiscuous, misogynistic, irresponsible, disrespectful, childish, criminally inclined retards. The people who are into this so called music are either already like this to begin with, or will end up like that after spending enough time being brainwashed by that trash.