Jerusalem was European? Even if that was the case, it still doesn't excuse the butchering that happened. At the time of the crusades, yes. It was European controlled territory, with Christian population and considered a holy city in Christian belief. ;)    And it's not like the Jews and Arabs were just hanging around in Jerusalem praying :rolleyes:    They killed and ethnic cleansed the region to accommodate their own people, since the city is also considered holy for their respective religions... :rolleyes:    The Europeans obviously had to respond in the same manner... If the Europeans hadn't been as barbaric as they were during the time, most of the Iberian peninsula, southern France, Italy, Greece, and the northern Balkans would still be under Islamic influence, and if the Europeans hadn't been as barbaric as they were do you think the Arabs would have stopped there? Of course not! They would have engulfed all of Europe!!    The only reason Europeans were barbaric was because we were dealing with truly barbaric peoples and our survival required putting a stop to them...    Vlad the impaler better known as Count Dracula, sure knew how to send the message to the Turkish invaders by marking Europe's frontiers with the impaled heads of the Turks that dared to cross the border :clink    If only the same was done in our current time borders :rolleyes: instead we have border guards with paint ball guns :rolleyes: :mad: