  So, in order to play rock, you either have to be black, or be a drunk, immoral hillbilly?   I would say there is some truth to that. When I have gone to a symphonic orchestra performance, everyone was fairly well dressed, polite, clean, and, with few exceptions, White. They also appeared sober, and not high on drugs. There is even a protocol as to when to applaud, and when not to.  As to rock concerts, I have no personal experience, but what I have noticed about them is a heavy police presence when one is in town, lots of noise, drugs and alcohol. And, from what I hear, a lot of gratuitous sex.   :rofl Well, that's not exactly what I meant. But Ron seems to keep suggesting that since Rock N' Roll can be pretty primal, immature, overtly sexual, rowdy music that it must surely be of Black origin. So it seems as if he doesen't think White people are capable of this sort of behaviour. But they obviously are. Now that you mention it....Yeah, I believe Rock N' Roll was surely spawned by a bunch of drunken, rowdy, party animal hillbillies, definately. :D But that doesen't mean you have to be one to play rock music. But American popular music has much to owe to the hillfolk. :clink