Did you not read anything I said? I support the self-defense rights of even jerks, but I don't call them heroes.      Pay attention. It was clear as day. I support the self-defense aspects, but not the people. :bangshead:  Besides, you do realize I am posting my opinion, right? I don't care if you support him wholeheartedly in everything he does... that is your business.  Why do people have to turn everything into an argument all the time?  I also don't have to list the things that I believe he did wrong, because it is OPINION, and I don't particularly care if you change yours.  The bottom line is Zimmerman has done a disservice to Florida CCW-holders LIKE ME by acting like a guilty person. If it is a good shoot, treat it like you KNOW it is a good shoot.  did I ever use the word hero? And the first thing you said to me was I disagree, you initiated this with a response to me, which I will quote here....       I have to disagree. Defending himself was the only thing he did right. Everything else he has done related to his case, he screwed up. Honestly, the only reason to defend him is because his self-defense was legal and he is being lumped in with Whites that also want to defend themselves... other than that.. he is a moron, not a hero. He has acted like a guilty man throughout. Luckily, the case against him is breaking apart on its own, because he would be bound to do something that causes him to lose it.   so you make statements, but you don't want to explain them, then tell me I'm the one turning things into an argument? way to try and flip it around on me. is your motto I'm rubber you're glue ?       I also don't have to list the things that I believe he did wrong, because it is OPINION, and I don't particularly care if you change yours.   no you don't have to list anything, but if you want your words to be received well, especially when they're unexplained, you probably should explain them, or at least expect such a response to them. why bother to even make statements if you won't explain them? this is a forum, not a propaganda poster or bumper sticker.    your point of view seems very flimsy, vain and erratic if you want to claim something but don't even want to explain why in the slightest. especially since it was a reasonable and relatively simple request. again, why make statements if you don't intend to back them up?    you can't just say oh I disagree and everything he's done he's screwed up without even explaining why, and expect to not have others wanting you to explain why you believe that. obviously it's not for lack of interest for responding to others, since in the time you took to defend why you're not explaining your position, you could have already explained it.