  It would depend upon your perspective. From mine anything that dictates a strong central government, coupled with quasi governmental industry, mixed with tight controls on personal freedom looks like a recipe straight from a leftist wet dream.   For my own views I would much perfer the animated pursuit of freedom our founders intended as opposed to some national glory that MAY be realized from a national socialist government.   Y'all have a nice day.  Just a little something I was talking about with HighWater earlier tonight on a different thread. Thought it would fit in well here.    Originally Posted by  HighWater    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif     I wouldn't accept oppression by White Fascists any more than I accept oppression by Jewish Extremists. :rolleyes:    But I support your right to believe what you wish.   You don't understand what Fascism really is. They like to equate Fascism with all out Totalitarianism these days, WRONG. That's never been the idea of Fascism, Fascism is no more totalitarian or oppressive than any other form of government. A Fascist is basically an ethnic Nationalist who is simultaneously opposed to both the Left(socialism,communism,marxism,liberalism etc) and the Right(capitalism,imperialism,neo conservatism). Ever since the Fascist regimes in Germany,Italy,Spain and elsewhere the media likes to use Fascism or Fascist as a synonym for oppressive totalitarianism, to disuade people from Fascist idealogy because it poses a serious threat to the globalists. But that's not what Fascism was ever about at all:rolleyes: I am an ethnic Nationalist, I am simultaneously opposed to both the left and right, they're both no good. I believe in a strong leader who gets things done, no beating around the Bush. I am American, I am Fascist. Fascism is a major threat to the globalist/Zionist/NWO power structure. The return of Fascism is the absolute last thing they want to see. Fascism and National Socialism can work wonders, National(for the country) Social(for the people). Blood and soil, Nationalism, that's what true Fascism is really about. Originally Posted by  HighWater    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif     Fascism by definition is authoritarian. The subordination of the people to the state. If your beliefs are different, perhaps you should find a different word to describe them.    All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. - Benito Mussolini    Doesn't sound much different than the ideals the NWO subscribe to.   It is very different from the ideals of the NWO or..ZOG. Because the Fascist idea of state is nation, in Fascism the state and the nation are one in the same, that's the whole idea. BLOOD & SOIL. So yes, you are subordinate to the state/nation in the sense that you are expected to work towards the betterment and advancement of your country, and your people as a whole, rather than just your own personnal gain. But that does not mean there is no room for individual achievement/advancement, it's not commie ism after all. But Fascism is a more collectivist idealogy than the every man for himself lets get all the money we can all for ourselves and screw everybody else all out capitalist society like America.     Fascism is no more authoritarian or totalitarian than any other form of government. Every system of government is authoritarian and totalitarian in some regard. What do you think laws are for? They have to be, or else they would lose control. That's what government is all about, maintaining control. Otherwise there is complete anarchy.    Originally Posted by  HighWater    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif     I edited my response before you posted your's. I'll switch that one back and put what I put there here. :cool:    The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood,  Fascism is totalitarian , and the Fascist Stateâa synthesis and a unit inclusive of all valuesâinterprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people. - Benito Mussolini      At any rate, my heart's not really into debating this here. I agree with Fascism in one sense, disagree in another. I value individualism, but realize it has its strengths and weaknesses, much like the collectivism of Fascism.     I don't feel like debating this here or now either, that makes two of us! ha. But Fascism isn't completely opposed to individualism though. The Nazis sure weren't. It's not communism, it's not a classless idealogy. In a Fascist state you rise through the ranks of society based on your own merit, which is the way it should be if you ask me. The cream of the crop rises to the top so to speak. Which is what the fore founders of America intended when they established this once fine country. All men are created equal in other words you earn your rank in society through your own merits, not birth right as was the case in Europe. You have to earn it. I think the fore founders of America had some pretty Fascist tendencies in some regards. Thomas Jefferson even said every man should be not only a citizen but a soldier just as was the case in Rome and Sparta (I may not have the exact wording but it's pretty close.) That's sounding rather Fascist to me. Sounds like something you would read in Mein Kampf or hear from Mussolini.:cool: