  The nuances of modern-day global economics are a bit more complicated today than ancient Romans buying precious silk.   -I was just saying it reminds me off Ancient Rome .are modern day situation you know with all the barbarians flooding over the gates, and such         Most often we do, but keep in mind George W. Bush was a history major at Yale University. Does that answer your question? Lol.   -lol God help us .  -I consider George W. Bush the modern equivalent of Nero .Playing the fiddle well Rome Burns         That doesn't mean there aren't business opportunities to be had in China, which has a huge indigenous economic market.   -Not at the expense of loosing are own manufacturing capability .It would be better if we where selling to them, and not the other way around, this hole situation developed because the Elite of Western nations have totally sold us down the drain, to save a few buck$ (Traitor Scum)....Where sending are factories and technology over there, so they can make goods, to sell back to us .       I think most world cultures are compatible with the West (seeing as how much of Western culture is adopted and revered in modern-day non-Western countries).   -So they can copy us .Nice They still cannot really be part of are culture/civilization though, no matter how hard they try, Westernized Chinese still = Chinese All the blond dye, classical music, blue jeans, will not change a thing        Take a look at the ongoing Islamic terrorist attacks in Hindu India and Buddhist Thailand as two foreign but shining examples that mirror the West.   -Well its not like India and Thailand go and let more Muslims in know is it? Its not like Indians and Siamese are constantly told they need to be tolerant, Islam is a religion of peace, and its not like they get throwing in jail if they say other wise   -The situation in the West is totally different, are governments are more on there side then our side ..        Assuming that you've never known a Chinese person before   -Never assume anything I know plenty, I grew up in a very multi-cultural crap hole (Mostly East Indian) but there are plenty of other Asians around, and we where not far from the Jamaican-Black ghetto    -There are also plenty of Chinese that are starting to move here (Straight from PRC), the large companies here have been spreading the We need foreigners to grow crap  .        I wouldn't go so far as to assume they would all turn traitor in Western nations.   -Why not assume that?   -Chinese are not Irish, Chinese are not German, Chinese are not Ukrainian, there is just Chinese in Western Nations, there not really part of are countries our culture our civilization   there not part of it, why assume they have any loyalty towards it?   -If you moved to China, would you be loyal to them?....Well .If a normal none-Sinophile (lol) moved to China   You think they would be loyal?  . If they had a bunch of anchor babies, think they would be loyal too?        I personally know two American-born Chinese and one American-born Korean who serve in the United States military and have been to Iraq.   -First off, why do people always judge everything by there own small personal experiences?   -Its like I know one good smart black person that means they all must be good and smart      -Also you see that these people are fighting Iraq, Not China . So that doesnt prove anything.       I don't think they would have any reservations about fighting Chinese in China (German Americans had no reservations about fighting Germans in Germany during WWII).   -There is a big different, where these Germans in there own little communities, that totally cut them selfs of from the rest of the country? No they where they interrogated and actually part of the nation.   -Plus Germans are the same race .The Chinese are not the same Race.       Plus, you're not taking in the fact that not all Chinese are united, and that Chinese who come here from Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, etc. would absolutely love to see the PRC collapse. In that case it is more about ideology than race.   -So they would have no problem at all bombing China and killing a bunch of there own, just to see the PRC collapse ..  -I think race matters more then ideology, Tribalism is 100% natural, normal people usually have tribal feelings .Normal People would choose there own kind, over everybody not there kind.        Although there are neighbourhood Chinatowns in many US cities, have any of these demanded to become autonomous from the city and its laws.   -They really dont need to demand autonomy, when they already practically have it .  -Though I understand your point about them trying that, frankly I just put the Chinese together with all None-Europeans  .    -They still could try that though, maybe not in America, but in the Canadian Pacific Coast maybe  Hell Vancouver is already practically a part of the RPC .  -When Troubles come, I would not be surprised to see them try something.        And are you aware that Asians make up 4% of the total US population?   -Are you aware America is the 3rd largest country in the world, are you aware that America is a very diverse country, and when America goes the way of Yugoslavia, It will not matter because it will be ever race/culture/people for its self, just like what as happened in every other multi-cultural country through out history?        I hear China's neighbouring Siberia is being flooded with Chinese of late (those who could not find employment in China).   -I hear Russia as 12% underemployment and quite a large unemployed population still ..We need None-White to Grow  .. :rolleyes:  -The out rage   I hope Russian  Ultra Nationalist  Take power soon . And bring Justice.        But Russia is so authoritarian and race-orientated that the thought of a Chinese takeover in Russia is terribly unlikely (the Ruskies wouldn't have it).   -Russia is going to be majority none-white, like every White country, in the next 100 years ..What can they do if there is none of them left?  .   -Also, there is always a chance of Civil War in Russia (20%None-Russian), if they get another Yeltsen . How would they stop it then?   -This is why Russia and every European country, needs an ultra-nationalist party to take power, and fix things before there to late.        Back to my country of the US though: are there scathing reports about American-Chinese unable to assimilate or contribute to society? Of American Chinese refusing to learn English (given they were immigrants and not first born like most of them) and performing poorly in school? Of rampant crime committed by American Chinese?   -No matter how well they appear to behave them selfs, Chinese are not European, so how can they be part of a European country?   -I can never be part of China (Never want to be either), and they can never be part of Europe or European Colonies (America, Etc).   -So why dont we all just stay in are own place, Chinese have China, we got Europe/Colonies ..Leave us alone, and will leave you alone .bring destruction, receive it in turn.        I have a problem with massive waves of immigration, because a person born in a foreign country has little allegiance to the host country. You assume correctly about that.   -So what about all these people being born here to those immigrants, you think that just because there born here, they automatically become more loyal?  -I dont think you quite understand minority mentality, Let me fill you in; I have lots of experience in this area .Minorities only care about there own.        But most Chinese people that I have ever met were born here in the US (except for one of my college professors), and associate more with Western values than anything else. I know this from experience in knowing Chinese people.   -So some how Western Values translate loyalty to Western countries?:rolleyes:       First off, China starting a war with the US now would be economic suicide for their country. I never said the PRC was peaceful, but they sure don't mind doing business   -now  tomorrow is a hole new day.        Actually, stopping immigration would drastically change things, especially in the US. Think about how many illegal immigrants cross the border each day into the US, not even counting legal immigrants.   -It would not change things drastically unless you where willing to expel all illegal and legal immigrants ..America is 40%+ None-White, every single one of these None-White people from Chinese to Mexicans have a larger Birth Rate, So eventually in a few years America will still end up with a majority None-White population    (If the country America is still around, to become majority none-white)  -Of course America will probably head in the direction of the former Soviet Union though (S.U 1991  U.S ?), Multi-Cultural Nations dont last, and neither will America .If you believe all the different Races and Cultures are going to put aside there differences and join hands and sing songs, well  . Maybe its time to stop living in a fantasy world.