Correction: hip-hop uses the breakbeat structure, a white invention a la Kraftwerk.  Portishead has its moments. Pretty good stuff when in the right mood. Exactly. Almost all of this so called Black music is actually firmly rooted in European musical traditions and influences when you start investigating. Like for instance Jazz.....was NOT invented by Blacks:rolleyes: That's a liberal/jewish perpetuated lie, the first Jazz was White and had it's inspiration from a combination of Marching Band music, Classical and traditional French&Spanish styles like quadrilles&contradanse down in New Orleans in the late 19th century, even the word Jazz originated as White slang. The first band to even call themselves a Jazz band was White. And that isn't the only White originated form of music they try to take away from us. We had a good thread about this going on here for a while but it died down now.