  As to crossing oceans (i.e. the Indian Ocean towards Egypt and East Africa for the ancient and medieval maritime Chinese)   -Not hard, when you travel with land in sight the entire way….Are you really saying that is a greater achievement then crossing the icy North Atlantic, with no land in sight for hundreds of miles, there was also Major Civilizations on the way with the Chinese like India, there was no Civilization with the Vikings, they where completely on there own.       I was not able to view any of your links due to the fact that I am not a Stormfront member   -My Bad, the Middle one is a picture of the first flight, the second one is the moon landing, obviously they got nothing to compare to those accomplishments.        how is this far more impressive than much earlier 2nd century BC Han era Chinese sailing from Han China to what is now the eastern coast of India?   -Have you ever been to L’Anse Aux Meadows? I was my self there only a month ago; The area is like nothing but Tundra and Bog, there was like 1 tree, not only that but it was freezing cold, I saw Icebergs (Not there a bit lower) … The Chinese never really crossed open Ocean, they just followed the land, So the Vikings crossing the Atlantic is a hella lot more impressive.       -(duh, as everyone knows, but I get the feeling now that you don't really know what the Chinese did).   -Or is it I don’t care what they done?. ..  -I don’t understand what this as to do with Opposing Views, What are you trying to argue? That there superior? Equal? Or do you just feel you need to educate us on China? Like what are you trying to accomplish, If you don’t mind me asking? I have been wondering this for quite some time.       Added a 'little' to humanity?? You mean, less than the Romans?   -Less then Europeans-Aryans.       Ancient civilizations, compared to Western European countries of the Modern periods, invented little in comparison.   -Well China is still around, same with Egypt… What have they added in the last 100 yrs.       We would've never made the steady march uphill towards the Enlightenment Age had these items not become popular among Europeans.   -So your saying that Europeans would have never been capable of inventing those things? Even though like I said 90% of all inventions where made by us, we some how would never discover those things, ya sure.       Yes, the Roman empire was ancestral to later Europe, the Western segment of which created the modern world, and China had practically no contact with Europe prior to this, but from this alone you can't prove the Romans were more important.   -What Alphabet are we writing in right now? Rome as had more of an impact on the World then China, so obviously Rome is more important       Whites have obviously been proven to be capable of innovation, but what implications does this have for China if ancestral non-PostSocraticGreek whites of antiquity, even ones living in rich imperial cities, failed to innovate as much as China during the same period?   -What about Persia, there White, and Sumer; those two civilizations discovered as much as the Chinese, not to mention Persian Art/Culture influenced China.    -Look up Hero of Alexandria.        What's your point? It still remains to be seen if other non-NE Asian non-white countries can achieve first world status.   -If they can, so what?       Has it done this throughout history? Even if it had (which it hasn't), what kind of excuse it this for not learning about something?   -No excuse, Its just…hmmm How do I put it….It annoys me to see so much concentration on None-European history, and no concentration on European history, or if there is its always in bad light, or intended to look ‘Pale” as in comparison to None-European civilization….There’s so many White kids that know Japanese and Chinese history, but if you asked them about who lead the Franks in the Battle of Tours, they would give you a dumb look … *sigh*…European/White history should come first.       It's not anyone's fault but yours if you begin to puke upon reading Chinese history   -This is a WN Board, this is in Opposing Views, what dose Chinese inventions and accomplishments have to do with anything? What are you guys trying to argue? We all no the Chinese can invent things, so what, dose that give them a right to my land?       Luzia Man just made a comment that the Romans would hardly have built a glorious civilization out of their Etruscan beginnings if it had not been for the Greek model and precedent   -Okay so what, Rome was not the only Glorious world shaking White civilization, there where many, but there is only 1 Chinese civilization/culture, well I guess 5-6 if you count the countries that are like them, but they barely had an affect on world history; on the other hand Whites have plenty.       from clay to marble as he put it   -I thought he put it, “I found Rome in bricks, I left Rome in Marble” … Or something like that.       They recieved tons of Chinese monks who spread new forms of Buddhism such as Zen in the 12th and 13th century   -Wasn’t Buda White/Aryan……. Dosen't matter he wasn't Chinese.       Although historically the Japanese built an impressive civilization and organized society, the basis for their old administrative system, style of governance, early architecture, city planning, military organization, court ceremony, and to a large extent style of dress were all based upon the Chinese model   -Maybe a few hundred years ago, but Japanese administrative system, style of governance, city planning, military organization, dress, etc is not based on Chinese culture any more now is it? … In-fact how much of Chinese administration and that is actually Chinese in origin?     -Japan was at its greatest height when they became more like us, you cannot argue with that fact.  - Funny thing is messing with us, is what lead to there down fall as a Major Military Power.    -Also the things I and most people would say, they like about Japanese culture are either White inspired or totally native ……   “White inspired”  Video Games – White Technology/White Characters/ Tons of White Mythology/Culture.  Anime – White Technology/ White Characters / Lots of White Mythology/Culture.  Jpop(Modern Japanese Music Period) – Although Jpop, is a lot softer and I say a lot cleaner then “Western slut pop”, it’s mostly American/British inspired, and would never be there if it were not for White people.    “Native”     Ninjas-What did Chinese have to do with them?  Samurai- Again?  Shinto Religion – Again.          The history of warfare in Europe and European-based invasion of other places does not dwarf that of every other region combined, although European warfare certainly represents a large chunk of the history of global warfare.   -I was thinking of all Whites not just Europeans, Euros are not the only White people, but even if you don’t count are Eastern Brothers, Ya European Military history still dwarfs everybody, I may not be to informed about Culture and Scientific matters, but Military matters are my strong points, So lets begin.    -None Euros can count on there fingers the number of lands they have conquered, Europeans on the other hand count the number of lands they have not conquered, which is an extremely short list, the only country I can think of is Siam/Thailand…..Seriously what other Race conquered the world? Every single country in North and South America, not to mention Sub-Sahara Africa, is pretty much a White creation. What continent or World did the Chinese conquer? ……       -Even today the European Man reigns supreme in Military Affairs, we are the most Militarized Race on the Planet … The world spends something like $1,200,000,000,000(USD) on the Military, White countries represent something like 92% of that, NATO countries alone spend something like $849, 875, 309, 000. If White people again wanted to take the world, Pray tell who could stop us?    -What about all those White Military inventions, Tactics, and great Military leaders, Asians may have a few, but we have hundreds, if not thousands.      -So …. Hmmm ….. How do they compare to us in these Affairs?