  yes you females who think that everyone here was talking about abusing women are ignorant and overtly emotional:rolleyes:   Did  I  accuse any of the men posting on this thread of promoting the abuse of women? I think that you have made some very valid points.      However, you do not have enough life experience to be accusing anyone of ignorance. You chose to deal with emotion by being emotional yourself...and you got told off as a result.      I'll take your impetuous spirit to be part of your youthful 'vigor'.