  What you appear to be saying is that you do not want to do anything different whatsover. In effect, a BNP Mk. 2 is to replace BNP Mk 1. In my view this is exactly what they (our opponents) would want because they will be able to dismiss the BNP Mk. 2 just as easily as they do the Mk. 1.  People really do need to grasp the opportunity that would be afforded to make a completely fresh start, in order to make some form of nationalist party electable and for this, it needs a different approach to what has gone before - completely different. There is a world of difference between the BNP and a fully electable nationalist party. Not to you, I agree. Not to me either, and not to anyone likely to be reading this on here. But to everyone else - i.e. the voters who are concerned at the appalling situation in which they find themselves and what is left of their country, but are still unwilling to feel bad about themselves by voting for the BNP. We need something that enables THEM to feel good about themselves when they enter the polling booth, like they are taking a positive act, rather than a negative one they would be afraid to admit to anyone. I don't think this can be a BNP Mk. 2. In fact, I know it can't. I'm not saying it's going to be easy, whatever is done, but I'm pretty sure we can't endure more years of what we've had.  There has to be a change. Something different needs to be done, for everyone's sake. We can't just go on in the old way. I'm not advocating selling out on major principles but there really does need to be a massive turnaround in presentation and approach by whatever comes next if it is to move on to the next (electable) step. We need to include many other disaffected people with no particular history of right-wing nationalism but who are just as concerned as us, so that whatever does come next can't be so easily dismissed as a bunch of right-wing racist fanatics. I know we aren't - but that's what's said and that's what they will want to keep saying. We mustn't make it easy for them.  I fully accept that there is a case for going on as before - to take the defiant appoach, to spite those who would do us down, in effect saying if you hit us once, we'll bounce back again and again and again ... I just think it would be an opportunity missed because ultimately a BNP Mk. 2 will be no more electable than the BNP Mk. 1 is - and that's not enough. Nowhere near enough. The movement needs to take a risk for change because more of the same isn't good enough.  Changing the name will result in many of our casual voters not knowing who we are. And whatever name you come out with will be dragged through the mud by searchlight/uaf anyway so you would loose that little advantage straight away. We must keep BNP as our initials and   Britiah National Party->British Nationalist Party is what the change should be if we get banned.