Actually, in response to the posts in this thread (including my own) it's not really about being pro- or anti- BNP or Griffin (or both). It's not about whether we all like each other on this forum (although obviously it would be easier if we did). And I don't think anyone in this thread is calling anyone else a red. What IS important..and is undisputed..is that there has been a second membership list leak and that it's not acceptable. And it is this that has left/is leaving most, if not all, members past and present, a tad peed off. We should remember that. And we all have a right to expect these member/supporter details to be kept watertight. Lecture over lol and apologies if my earlier remarks caused offence. It was unintended.  No there hasn't, it's a fake list.