[quote=muckraker;5641204]   Just because there were whites in Xinjiang province way back doesn't mean ****. Look at a map and you'll see that's way west of the real heartland of China and wasn't even part of China in ancient times. So they wouldn't have contributed anything to Chinese civilisation.   They contributed the wheel, domesticated horses and saddles, bronze and iron and maybe other things. Watch the PBS produced documentary I posted. They have found cowry shells on these mummies and such, cowry shells that come from the ocean...thousands of miles away, also artifacts that seem to have Mesopotamian and Indian origins. These people traded with far away lands. Much further away than China. They are believed to have traded with the Chinese extensively for silk. They also are believed to have raided Chinese border towns from time to time. The Chinese have written accounts of these people, they were well aware of the people who lived beyond their western borders. They had contact with each other. So yes, this does mean shi#t. Why don't you want to recognize this? Is it not compatible with your idealized image of history ?   quote]