  However, you fail to appreciate the trek by sail the Chinese made from southern China, sailing around what is now Vietnam, sailing through the straights of the Peninsular Malaysia and Sumatra, into the vast Indian Ocean, the only discovery point of rest and gathering inland water being the Andaman Islands, and finally to Sri Lanka and India.   -Well I am looking at a Map of the area, and what, I see is land all the way, they no doubt just followed the land…for what reason would they have to just sail into open Ocean….Sri Lanka is a stones through away from India, compared to Europe to Newfoundland…  -The Old World is directly connected, so its not impressive to sail along the land, but to discover a hole new world, that’s impressive.        Yet you shouldn't overlook the importance of the Chinese writing system in East Asia.   -I was stating that Rome had more of an impact on the World (The hole thing not just East Asia), and then China has had, making Rome more important, because China only influenced its little region, well Rome influenced the entire world, making it even more impressive because its not around any more.       Chinese to converse freely with Japanese people   -I have to question this, that dose not sound right, how sure are you about that? Can you provide a link, or any Asian people here confirm this?       True, Persia had been a trading partner of China since the 2nd century BC, and had a huge cultural impact on China during the Tang Dynasty (618-907).   -Well that other person had a remark about “non-PostSocraticGreek whites of antiquity” not inventing much.       One of my all-time favorites, you can tell since I wrote of him in the first post of this thread.   -I actually noticed that after I was done writing so, it was addressed to the other person anyway.       Oh please, remembering the name Charles Martel is simple   -I don’t see what that as to do with my statement, about a lot of Whites knowing and being taught about None-White history/Culture, well there own goes gets neglected.        Barely had an effect on world history?   -I should have made my self more clear, I was not talking about China, but the states they influenced like Vietnam.       I've got about 20 or so books in my possession that could refute the thesis of yours.   -So educate me, how did Laos or other neo-China’s have a major affect on world history?       The influence of Western thought and style of governance has certainly replaced all of this, yes.  Yes, the Japanese would not have gone far in the 19th and early 20th century without adopting everything American and European, especially warships, weaponry, drill tactics, etc. etc. etc.   -Glad you admit this, so how dose the Chinese influence matter, when Japan only reached its great height when it adopted Western influence.       I'm not a big fan of anime, although I do love that movie Akira, that was pretty bad-ass for a cartoon. Lol.   -I am not a fan of Anime either; I was just saying what most people like about Japan is Western influenced or native, not Chinese influenced.        However, you fail to see the importance of China at least in East Asia.   -I clearly understand that East Asia is China’s little sand box, but what is so great about that there 1,300,000,000 of them, owning the largest chunk of land in East Asia, you would think they would dominate it…        The civilizations of Vietnam, Manchuria, Korea, and Japan were all sinicized and originally borrowed writing itself from China,   -Now there all Westernizing, like the rest of the world.       I don't think this gung-ho attitude of destroying everybody is supported by WN's here who want their own homeland aside from other races (meaning, they really don't want to get wrapped up in the affairs of foreign nations).    -Destroying everybody?   -I was just stating the, are Military History, and that dwarf everybody...Those where just the opening Skirmish remarks.       In the modern world? East Asian countries are well-advanced now   -Still extremely weak Military wise; that’s why I should you that Military spending thing.       There are plenty of other countries besides the US that now have the bomb though.   -Good for them, I never said other countries don’t have the “bomb”, but White countries own most the “bombs”, and most the tanks, fighters, bombers, chemical agents … weapons period.        The thing with Islamic extremist terrorist organizations is that once a bomb goes off within our borders, who do we fire the missile at? They don't belong to any defined country, they work underground on a global level. That's the scariest part.   -Muslim Terrorist are no doubt supported by Muslim countries, if you support an Enemy, you are an Enemy…..  -I don’t think that they would be that stupid, Muslims country wide would no doubt be rounded up in all Western countries, the day after such an attack… and that Liberal/Hippie peace and love, Islam is a religion of peace, BS, would be thrown out the door.  -So why would Muslim risk that, when they can just take over the country, with there women’s wombs (Lebanon-Kosovo COUGH COUGH), its not them detonating a bomb that you should be concerned about.    You're mistaken if you assume the Vikings embarked from the mainland in Scandinavia and directly crossed the Atlantic to Newfoundland like Columbus and later voyagers.    -I know they never, they went to Iceland to Greenland to Newfoundland, which is still immensely impressive, have you ever been that far up North, do you have any idea what the area is like?        In a way, the Vikings clearly made their way through unknown western territory via accidentally.   -So?  -How many places and scientific discovers where made on purpose?       Actually, why don't you look up a Roman, Illyrian, Thracian, Celtic or Scythian scientist of similar calibre to the two men noted above? It shouldn't be a difficult search, right? What about a Spartan one?   -So what they never invented much, what is your point? Any White Spartan could still kick the living crap, out of any number of people.       Despite the Marxist-influenced 'inclusive' curriculum in schools across Britain, we still learn a lot about British history and European history in general, or at least far more than Japanese/Chinese history   -Well the education here is different then in Britain so lucky you….I was also no just referring to history, I should have said culture to.       indeed Sassanian Dynasty Persia! (which wasn't white, unless you consider Armenians and Assyrians to be white, which you shouldn't.)   -What did the Sassanid Empire have to do with Armenians and Assyrians?        Why assume we're trying to argue anything   -….This is OP…That’s why I should assume, if this where a history board, well then I would not assume you where arguing, but its not.       I agree that the natives of a country (or the original inhabitants of a created country like New Zealand or Canada, i.e. Anglo-Saxons and other Europeans) should remain the significant majority in these areas.   -….Well that’s good.       In ancient times, there were only the Greeks and the Romans.  Sumer and ancient Egypt were NOT white, just like Mesoamerican civilizations weren't.   -Never claimed ancient Egypt was White, but Persians sure in the hell are, and they where just as impressive as the Greeks…You also have Minoans and Hittites.  -Sumer, nobody can be sure, but Anatolia, Caucasus, and the Iranian Plateau where still all majority White at this time, the river’s Tigris and Euphrates are how far away from these areas? …. You cannot discount it being a possibility.  -Also Summer language was not Semitic, so what other race inhabited this area? …. That’s right, Whites.        I know you'll say in response to this that the Romans weren't what I just described them.   --I don’t care if they Romans did not invent much, what impressed me about Rome was always its Might and Beauty, not its thinking power.        'Us'? By that, you mean white Americans and Jewish Americans? Because the work that went into the nuclear bomb was more kosher than you assume.   -I did not know the Jew’s paid for the development, or are the ones that split the Atom in the first place...So of the 40,000+ or so people invloved in the project, how many where Jews?  -Japan was already mostly defeated anyway, dropping the bomb was just away to save a few lives, and the War was still already mostly won, with or with-out the bomb.   -It was those White Americans that had already defeated Japan....Frankly we could have just sat back and watched them all starve to death.       We're talking about before the early modern period (1500, or even 1400).  What of the time before then?  So this actually applies to the classical age? And medieval times?   -Yes it applies to all ages.    -Byzantine-Persia Had very impressive Medieval Militaries.        The inventors of the crossbow, trebuchet and firearms compare very well indeed actually.   -To the domestication of the Horse, ICBM’s, Chariots, Lasers, Anthrax, Machine Guns, etc.    -Its not just things that are invented, it is what you do with the inventions to….Chinese may have invented gun powder, but they sure didn’t do a hole lot with them either then make some fire works …