Why aren't Shalom, Baron Harkonnen and Snutboy in the thinktank runup? They're all much better and more experienced at making points than I am hehe.    So basically your idea for this thread is that we post an argument that consolidates our whole anti thing? What about the fact that Plasma seems to be an anti-semite who seems to agree with you on a few points, freedom fries just keeps saying You guys suck in different ways, and the more experienced and intellectual antis on the board aren't present on your list. I take it that chamillion and I are somewhat classed as lesser antis hehe? If so, I will endevour to try to find fault in your ideology a lot more than I have been in order to seek promotion ;).    All in all; putting us together for something isn't exactly an amusing prospect as we all have different beliefs. We're people from all walks of life who don't really see the beauty of your cause (some of us for somewhat obvious reasons).