[quote=Four Eyes;6034832][quote=-The Patriot-;6032863][quote=Four Eyes;6030668]       Okay, I think the problem here is that you don't know much about music in general so let me break things down.   Nah, you only know what you read on a wikipedia is the problem.      I could list off the old guys too, Bo Diddley,   Blues, not rock n' roll.    Chuck Berry,    aka the Black Hillbilly    Little Richard,    A faggott who wore make-up and most White people don't listen to.    The Isley Brothers,   R&B, they are not rock n' roll.    Richie Havens,   Who?    Ike Turner (notorious wife beater, I know, but Rocket 88 is concidered by many to be the first rock song),   Ike Turner was not rock n' roll, he was R&B. The first officially recognized rock n' roll song was Rock Around the Clock by Bill Haley and the Comets from 1954 and the melody was a complete rip off of Move It On Over by Hank Williams from 1947.    Wynonie Harris (also credited by some as the first rock musician),   Huh? Has anyone actually heard of her?    and Jimmy Preston (also credited as the first),    Credited as the first by...someone who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about maybe. No one has even heard of that loser:p    not to mention countless doo-wop bands (Italian doo-wop didn't pick up until around 1958).   Doo-Wop is...not Rock n' Roll, and..it's not very African.    What does you having heard of any of these people change, you're no kind of authority and you actively separate yourself from blacks, obviously you've never heard of them.   I am an authority. You're only a pathetic liar trying to say Blacks created Rock music:rolleyes: Yeah right. I'm still waiting for this African music I keep hearing about by the way...        African music evolved along with all other forms, ever heard of Afrobeat (Fela Kuti, Femi Kuti, Hugh Masekila, the Budos Band)? Also the tom-tom and bass drum heavy beats found in jazz, rock, and forms beyond are unmistakably tribal (in an African sense of the word).   Bass is not Black:rolleyes: Blacks did not invent Bass:rolleyes:      New Jack Swing is indeed a facet of hip-hop, hip-hop is more than just rap and musically reffers to a production style and urban influence. New Jack swing was an era in hip-hop that featured R&amp;B singers and rappers alike, Heavy D, MC Hammer, Salt 'N' Peppa, Digital Underground, MC Lyte, and Wreckx-N-Effect were all among the New Jack Swing rappers, it was all about the beats to begin with.   Nah, New Jack Swing was a style of Black pop music aka R&B popular in the late 1980s and early 90s, some popular acts were New Edition, Boyz 2 Men, Keith Sweat, Johnny Gill, Gerald Levert, etc...        Hendrix learned from a black kid named Butch Snipes when he was young and toured with several black bands before he started the Experience, he may not have been widely accepted by the black community,but he did support Martin Luther King and the Black Panther party,   I heard the Black Panthers hated him for being a race traitor, for playing White music, moving to England, and hanging out with all White friends and dating a White girl.... Either way you want to look at it here...Rock music is NOT Black culture. It's White culture, sorry. Just because there were a few bop wop a loo wop type Black R&B performers who got lumped into the rock n' roll category in the 1950s doesn't make rock music a Black invention or Black culture seeing as since the mid 1950s there hasn't hardly been a Black 'rock' star at all, only Hendrix and a couple of half-breeds like Slash and the guy from Thin Lizzy, and a few people no one has ever heard of.:D Also, rock n' roll is not the same thing as rock music, rock n' roll was just an influence on what would become rock music. They are not one in the same to begin with. Rock is not Rock n' Roll/Rockabilly anymore than Rock n' Roll aka Rockabilly was Country or R&B.