There is one California Law Man that I have seen on TV who said he walks up to a stopped vehicle with his hand in his pocket, rather than on his open carry handgun.  The folks in the car would not realize that his hand in his pocket is on his pocket pistol which he claims he can draw faster than his open carry handgun in the holster. Good point, however you can't get permits out here in most of the areas where you'd need them. There are guys starting to carry in locked pouches on their hips though... it's legal as long as it's unloaded, and some of 'em are trying to get real creative with how locked it has to be. Some of them are getting TOO creative and doing things that couldn't really be considered locks though.