#include<stdio.h>
#include<algorithm>
#include<math.h>
#include<vector>
#include <complex>
using namespace std;
const double EPS = 1e-8;
const double INF = 1e12;
typedef complex<double> P;
namespace std {
  bool operator < (const P& a, const P& b) {
    return real(a) != real(b) ? real(a) < real(b) : imag(a) < imag(b);
  }
}
double cross(const P& a, const P& b) {
  return imag(conj(a)*b);
}
double dot(const P& a, const P& b) {
  return real(conj(a)*b);
}


typedef vector<P> G;

struct C {
  P p; double r;
  C(const P &p, double r) : p(p), r(r) { }
};
int ccw(P a, P b, P c) {
  b -= a; c -= a;
  if (cross(b, c) > 0)   return +1;       // counter clockwise
  if (cross(b, c) < 0)   return -1;       // clockwise
  if (dot(b, c) < 0)     return +2;       // c--a--b on line
  if (norm(b) < norm(c)) return -2;       // a--b--c on line
  return 0;
}
vector<P> convex_hull(vector<P> ps) {
  int n = ps.size(), k = 0;
  sort(ps.begin(), ps.end());
  vector<P> ch(2*n);
  for (int i = 0; i < n; ch[k++] = ps[i++]) // lower-hull
    while (k >= 2 && ccw(ch[k-2], ch[k-1], ps[i]) <= 0) --k;
  for (int i = n-2, t = k+1; i >= 0; ch[k++] = ps[i--]) // upper-hull
    while (k >= t && ccw(ch[k-2], ch[k-1], ps[i]) <= 0) --k;
  ch.resize(k-1);
  return ch;
}
int main(){
	int a;
	while(scanf("%d",&a),a){
		vector<P> panai;
		for(int i=0;i<a;i++){
			double b,c;
			scanf("%lf,%lf",&b,&c);
			panai.push_back(complex<double>(b,c));
		}
		printf("%d\n",a-convex_hull(panai).size());
	}
}