#include <iostream>
#include <vector>
#include <complex>
#include <algorithm>
#include <cstdio>
using namespace std;

const double EPS = 1e-8;
const double INF = 1e12;
typedef complex<double> P;
typedef complex<double> point;
namespace std {
  bool operator < (const P& a, const P& b) {
    return real(a) != real(b) ? real(a) < real(b) : imag(a) < imag(b);
  }
}
double cross(const P& a, const P& b) {
  return imag(conj(a)*b);
}
double dot(const P& a, const P& b) {
  return real(conj(a)*b);
}

struct L : public vector<P> {
  L(const P &a, const P &b) {
    push_back(a); push_back(b);
  }
};

typedef vector<P> G;

struct C {
  P p; double r;
  C(const P &p, double r) : p(p), r(r) { }
};

int ccw(P a, P b, P c) {
  b -= a; c -= a;
  if (cross(b, c) > 0)   return +1;       // counter clockwise
  if (cross(b, c) < 0)   return -1;       // clockwise
  if (dot(b, c) < 0)     return +2;       // c--a--b on line
  if (norm(b) < norm(c)) return -2;       // a--b--c on line
  return 0;
}

bool intersectLL(const L &l, const L &m) {
  return abs(cross(l[1]-l[0], m[1]-m[0])) > EPS || // non-parallel
         abs(cross(l[1]-l[0], m[0]-l[0])) < EPS;   // same line
}
bool intersectLS(const L &l, const L &s) {
  return cross(l[1]-l[0], s[0]-l[0])*       // s[0] is left of l
         cross(l[1]-l[0], s[1]-l[0]) < EPS; // s[1] is right of l
}
bool intersectLP(const L &l, const P &p) {
  return abs(cross(l[1]-p, l[0]-p)) < EPS;
}
bool intersectSS(const L &s, const L &t) {
  return ccw(s[0],s[1],t[0])*ccw(s[0],s[1],t[1]) <= 0 &&
         ccw(t[0],t[1],s[0])*ccw(t[0],t[1],s[1]) <= 0;
}
bool intersectSP(const L &s, const P &p) {
  return abs(s[0]-p)+abs(s[1]-p)-abs(s[1]-s[0]) < EPS; // triangle inequality
}

vector<point> convex_hull(vector<point> ps) {
  int n = ps.size(), k = 0;
  sort(ps.begin(), ps.end());
  vector<point> ch(2*n);
  for (int i = 0; i < n; ch[k++] = ps[i++]) // lower-hull
    while (k >= 2 && ccw(ch[k-2], ch[k-1], ps[i]) <= 0) --k;
  for (int i = n-2, t = k+1; i >= 0; ch[k++] = ps[i--]) // upper-hull
    while (k >= t && ccw(ch[k-2], ch[k-1], ps[i]) <= 0) --k;
  ch.resize(k-1);
  return ch;
}

int main(){
	int n;
	while(cin >> n && n){
		vector<point> pp(n);
		for(int i=0;i<n;i++){
			scanf("%lf,%lf\n",&pp[i].real(),&pp[i].imag());
		}
		cout << n-convex_hull(pp).size() << endl;
	}
}