#define	_USE_MATH_DEFINES
#include <iostream>
#include <iomanip>
#include <algorithm>
#include <functional>
#include <vector>
#include <cstdio>
#include <cstring>
#include <cmath>
#include <cfloat>
#include <map>
#include <queue>
#include <stack>
#include <list>
#include <string>
#include <set>
#include <complex>
#include <utility>
#include <numeric>
#define  rep(i,n) for(int i=0;i<(n);i++)
#define  REP(i,a,n) for(int i=a;i<(n);i++)
#define  rrep(i,n) for(int i=(n)-1;i>=0;i--)
#define  VI	vector<int>
#define	 VS vector<string>
#define  all(a) (a).begin(),(a).end()
#define  debug(x) cout<<#x<<": "<<x<<endl
using namespace std;
typedef long long ll;

const int INF=1000000;
char fi[101][101];
int d[21][21];
int day[12]={31,28,31,30,31,30,31,31,30,31,30,31};
double EPS = 1e-10;
int N,M;
int sx,sy;
int gx,gy;
int w,h;
int ans;
int dx[4]={0,0,-1,1};
int dy[4]={-1,1,0,0};
const int MAX_V=100;
const int MAX_N=100;
char o[3]={'+','-','*'};
#define md 1000003


int dp[353][353]={0};
int bow[353][353]={0};
double add(double a,double b){
	if(abs(a+b)<EPS*(abs(a)+abs(b)))
	return 0;
	return a+b;
}

struct P{
	double x,y;
	P(){}
		P(double x,double y):x(x),y(y){
		}
		P operator + (P p){
			return P(add(x,p.x),add(y,p.y));
		}
		P operator - (P p){
			return P(add(x,-p.x),add(y,-p.y));
		}
		P operator *(double d){
			return P(x*d,y*d);
		}
		double dot(P p){
			return add(x*p.x,y*p.y);
		}
		double det(P p){
			return add(x*p.y,-y*p.x);
		}
};

bool cmp_x(const P& p,const P& q){
	if(p.x!=q.x) return p.x<q.x;
	return p.y<q.y;
}

vector<P> convex_hull(P* ps, int n){
	sort(ps,ps+n,cmp_x);
	int k=0;
	vector<P> 	qs(n*2);
	
	rep(i,n){
		while(k>1&&(qs[k-1]-qs[k-2]).det(ps[i]-qs[k-1])<=0)
			k--;
		qs[k++]=ps[i];
	}
	for(int i=n-2,t=k;i>=0;i--){
		while(k>t&&(qs[k-1]-qs[k-2]).det(ps[i]-qs[k-1])<=0)
		k--;
		qs[k++]=ps[i];
	}
	qs.resize(k-1);
	return qs;
}

int n;
P ps[101];

int main(){
	
	while(cin>>n,n!=0){
		char comma;
		rep(i,n)
			cin>>ps[i].x>>comma>>ps[i].y;
		
		vector<P> qs=convex_hull(ps,n);
		cout<<n-qs.size()<<endl;
	}
	
	

	
}