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A presentation by Joan Roughgarden , a Stanford University biologist , on using biblical metaphor to ease her fellow Christians into accepting evolution -LRB- a mutation is '' a mustard seed of DNA '' -RRB- was dismissed by Dr. Dawkins as '' bad poetry , '' while his own take-no-prisoners approach -LRB- religious education is '' brainwashing '' and '' child abuse '' -RRB- was condemned by the anthropologist Melvin J. Konner , who said he had '' not a flicker '' of religious faith , as simplistic and uninformed .
 person of company: Joan Roughgarden, Stanford University
Given a phrase that describes the relationship between two words, extract the words and the lexical relationship between them. The output format should be "relation1: word1, word2; relation2: word3, word4". 
Option: ethnicity, place lived, geographic distribution, company industry, country of administrative divisions, administrative division of country, location contains, person of company, profession, ethnicity of people, company shareholder among major shareholders, sports team of location, religion, neighborhood of, company major shareholders, place of death, nationality, children, company founders, company founded place, country of capital, company advisors, sports team location of teams, place of birth 
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 person of company: Joan Roughgarden, Stanford University