A resolution approving a proposed Multi-Year Festival Lease Agreement between the City and County of Denver and Denver Festivals LLC for the use of Overland Golf Course for a multi-day, multi-stage musical festival. Approves a lease agreement with Denver Festivals, LLC, for five years at an annual rate of $200,000 with additional monetary and non-monetary considerations to produce an annual three-day music festival at Overland Golf Course in Council District 7 (201735508). The last regularly scheduled Council meeting within the 30-day review period is on 8-14-17. The Committee approved filing this resolution at its meeting on 6-20-17. Pursuant to Council Rule 3.7, Councilman Clark called out this resolution at the Monday, July 24, 2017, Council meeting for a postponement to the next regularly scheduled meeting of Monday, July 31, 2017.
Thank you. Wow. That was very sweet. We have another public hearing tonight. You. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are welcome to stay for the next public hearing as well. Councilman? No. Will you please put Council Resolution 687 on the floor? Mr. President, the Council of 687 be adopted. It has been moved and seconded. The public hearing for Council Resolution 687 is opened. May we have a staff report? I believe. Happy. Haines, are you on deck? It's a busy night for you. Thank you very much, President Pro Tem and members of council. I will be very brief because I know we are here tonight to hear from our citizens about this project. I just wanted to give you a quick background and overview. It was sometime last summer when this idea, this opportunity came to the city and we worked very closely with the Office of Special Events to consider it. And I will say at the outset, our department, the Department of Parks and Recreation, was among the skeptics. And so we spent a number of months doing a little due diligence on the idea of this festival, including sending a team of individuals to the sister festival that has matured in San Francisco. And we did that along with a number of other city agencies. Before I go any further, I would like to really acknowledge those individuals because it really has been a team effort. And I particularly want to thank Fred. Fred Weiss, Scott, Ralph Lake, Laura morales from our Department of Parks and Recreation, the Office of Special Events. Katie and Grace. And her whole team. The city attorney's office, who have been just terrific in helping us think through each step of this process. Our Parks and Rec Advisory Board and and particularly there are residents and neighbors in in the community. Whether they were in favor or against their involvement at every step of this process has been invaluable and has shaped where we are tonight with the the contract that you have before you. I'm not going to go through the details of the contract because I think you have seen we made a pretty lengthy presentation at committee a few weeks ago, and the contract really reflects all of those items that we went through with you at that meeting, with one exception, and I and I want to apologize at the outset for how late the contract actually came to you. And I know that you'll be taking a little extra time to review it, but we wanted to make sure that every last thing was in place and it was right. And we had some issues, some details to work out with excise and licensing since the council committee and wanted to make sure that each of those pieces was in the contract that you received during the course of the conversations in the community that started about November of this last year. We have had input through a survey from over a thousand individuals, both in the neighborhoods directly involved in the neighborhoods throughout the city, as well as a thousand petitions that we received both in favor and in opposition to to the proposal. We used all of that input to shape an a set of commitments that we floated in a number of community meetings, guidelines, if you will, that helped really shape the core of the contract that you have before you. And it really and I meant it genuinely when I said earlier, we thank those individuals who were both skeptical and oppose as much as those who were in favor because voicing their concerns helped to sharpen our thoughts and where we needed to go in the kinds of issues that needed to be addressed in this contract. And so it is a better contract and it's a better document because of all of that input that we received. We worked with neighborhood organizations, schools, recreation centers, all of the users of the golf courses, not only the Overland one, but throughout the city. I want to thank you particularly for the support that we got from your council offices in helping with the community outreach. We had individuals literally walking door to door and and a robust online presence to try to get input and all of that added up to the contract that you have before you this evening. Two things in particular I want to address before I sit down and then let you hear from the community. The mayor added his own input and it was as a result of meeting with a number of. Neighbors in the Oberlin community. He made a commitment that both our department, the city and the promoter are absolutely committed to, and that is the establishment of an accountability committee that will be very engaged, an accountability committee with a level of independence that will enable us to get real, honest and genuine feedback from the community about how this event goes. And those of you who know the work that we've done around events throughout this city and in our parks, and you all walk through us. Just recently with the new event policy that we put in place. And I mention that because our aim in addressing all of those issues, both in that policy and in this contract, is to ensure that we have good events in this city and that they're there events that people want to go to, that they add value to our community, and that they minimize the impacts in our neighborhoods. And that is where we believe that this contract does. Councilman, knew you raised a question, I think a related question about this earlier this week with some concerns about making sure that the language of some accountability and some evaluation and review are not being reflected in the contract. I will point you to the language that is in Section 5.2 S, which we believe does address that issue, and we're happy to work with you more directly in the future. There are two things that make this a little bit unique. One is this contract includes a fairly lengthy list of requirements and plans that the promoter must provide to the city and to our department for review and approval before we move ever anywhere. And the language that I just mentioned in the contract requires us to evaluate the results of all of those things. It commits and requires the promoter to be engaged in the community outreach that's necessary to get that feedback about how the festival went and what the issues were and what concerns were raised. And I'll say this to begin with, as much work as we've done and as much as we have focused on the details of this contract , we know that it is not going to be perfect day one. And that's why we've built into this process and into the contract processes that will enable us to respond, to adjust, to adapt both during the Feast of the festival itself and more importantly, afterwards, so that we make the adjustments and the changes that are needed to make this the very best festival possible. I will end with that and thank you all very much again. All right. Thank you, Miss Haynes. All right, we have. Yep, go ahead. I did forget one thing, and that is to make a quick introduction of of the promoters of from Superfly who are here tonight. I just want to make sure that, you know that they are present. They are here to answer questions. I want to thank them personally for the amount of time they have spent going through in painstaking detail what we believed we needed to make a great event. This is Rick Farman from Superfly. He's a co-founder of Superfly. And I just have to say, I'm literally a guy who's willing to roll up his sleeves and and get to get to work and and respond. And finally, David Erlich, who many of you know in the community, who is the festival liaison and is the local guy on the ground and has been a tremendous partner. So they are both here available for questions after the public hearing during and and and are at your disposal. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. First, I want to I want to just say to all the folks who are here, thank you for enduring a long time. Thank you for coming through security, sitting in hard seats. We realize that this is the not the best process, but it is the only process we have and look and always improve that. So we want to apologize because you could be doing a lot of things at 940, but you are at the city hall trying to make your city better because you care about your neighborhood. So thank you for being here. This is a courtesy public hearing. Courtesy, public hearing. You cannot yield time. So it's it will be 3 minutes straight up and we'll do in favor and against will be alternating everyone. The other thing is we have 28 speakers, so 28 times three is more than 60 minutes. So I will have a timer right here going going on there. But you don't have to everybody doesn't have to use all their 3 minutes. Many of you, especially if you're at the halfway point, you're going to start hearing speakers say similar things. And so be courteous to the folks who are on the bottom end of the list. And if you've wrapped up your comments, you can wrap it up and leave someone some more time so we can get all 28 people in. I haven't figured out the math of how to get all 28 in, but, you know, 2 minutes would be appropriate, I think. Okay. So I'm going to call the first five. We'll leave this first row open for the first five people to come. Come through. Robert Lavelle. Kathy Hamilton. Reyna. Reza. Q Razak. Okay. Okay. Thanks for your vote of confidence. All right. And. Carmen knows. And Max Hirsch. Okay, Robert Rob Lovell, you are first 3 minutes. Good evening, everyone. It's been quite a night, a long night. And I just want to first thank you, Mr. President, council members, for allowing us to come speak. Really? I'd like to thank all the members of the government that I have dealt with over the last year in. My name is Robert Lovell and I live at 406 west of Joel, right across from the first green. So I would be one of the neighbors most directly impacted by this festival. But as I was saying, I wanted to thank the government representatives, Parks Department's Office of Special Events. I've met so many people throughout this process. And I've been impressed every step of the way. It's been very in-depth, very thorough and. I really feel that whatever happens, everybody's working for everyone's best interests. So I had some written down remarks prepared, but throughout the evening I just decided to. Wing it and I kind of. You know, feel like my philosophies are guided by like good, like the greatest, good for the greatest number of people and operating. In good faith. When this idea came about. I was part of the first group where it was like, Hey, there's this idea being floated around. Is this something that we're even remotely interested in as a neighborhood, as a neighborhood association in pursuing? There is multiple public meetings in every step of the way. People acted with good faith, and I appreciate that. And every step of the way, the concerns were notated. They were categorized. They're attract, they're addressed. I never heard false promises. I never heard things that would lead me to believe that anything. Not up front and not in our best interest is going on. And the survey really drove that home for me, seeing all of the concerns listed out, seeing the proposed steps to address those concerns. I mean, that was pretty comprehensive. And that's why not only myself as. An individual could I support it, but also support it like as recommend recommendation for the rest of my community. It's going to benefit the community by the money that comes in it, the attention that comes to the community. It's underserved in terms of pedestrian access, transportation safety, things like that in it, in a focus in that area is going to naturally improve those things over time, like the proposed pedestrian drawbridge. Also the opportunity to get additional funding for community engagement. The Community Advisory Board. The Accountability Board steps are being taken to protect our best interests and I'm 100% comfortable endorsing this. It's going to be part of a bigger whole. In my opinion. The synergistic thing going on with the vet pavilion. So all of the music, the music venues on South Broadway, possible CPR, I mean, there's a lot. Happening in that neighborhood and southwest Denver can really be placed on the map. On the same level as Austin City limits south by Southwest. So in terms of. Thank you. All right, Kathy Hamilton. Hi. I'm Kathy Hamilton. And I live. In Denver. Remember when Colorado turned down the Olympics? Our state didn't want the crowd nor the expense. Overland Park neighborhood is rejecting the equivalent of the Olympics. Think out of the box. Just try to think out of the box for a minute. Can these huge events be held at Red Rocks instead? How about. Barbie? Barbie, your park. Or at the Denver Country Club. All these places have parking. The city of Denver often exceeds the carrying capacity of neighborhoods like Globeville. Swansea and Elyria with 14 lane highway. Projects or or say a while ago when. I-70 was run through the middle of my. Neighborhood of Berkeley. If you live there, it's it wasn't a success. Um. If the Overland Park golf course were a beach. Like with sand and bathers and things like that. A beach taken over for profit. You would surely be outraged. Somehow, if it's just a golf course. It isn't. It just seems like, you know, excess green sward that can just be, you know, worked over. And, you know, this has happened to the golf course on the other side on the on the east side of Eye of the Mousetrap, because they're going to chew it up to make a drainage just for that road, that 14 lane road. So that's all I have to say. Thank you, Mrs. Banks, for listening. Rhino Rescue. All right. Thank you. I'm really proud to live. State your name for the record. Sorry. Sorry. My name is Rainer Isaak and I live at 406 West Ewell Avenue with Robert Lovell. That's my husband right across from the first screen. So I'm really proud to live in a community where we have access to so many natural resources as well as urban amenities and natural activities. And I'm also proud to be here with neighbors who are so passionate about our community regardless of where we stand on the issue. I'm torn by this level of civic engagement because we all live where we live and have our community's best interests at heart. I work at Denver Public Schools in the Office of Student Equity and Opportunity, so I'm passionate about eliminating the opportunity gaps that exist in our community. Southwest Denver has historically been marginalized and lacks access to a robust culture of art and music. Well, that pavilion certainly adds to our to the culture of our neighborhood, and it'll take things to a new level, as well as give us the opportunity to make much needed improvements to our area, basic things like crosswalks and safe bridges to walk across. And this music festival will definitely add to that as well live. It just wouldn't have the capacity to make these infrastructure improvements by itself. Some of the items that I think are particularly advantageous from my personal perspective is that there will be a separate fund for community outreach efforts which can be routed to increase arts access for our youth. Communities in southwest Denver have been traditionally underserved, and cultures with traditionally rich art and history and tradition have had to put these traditions on the back burner as art becomes something that's more of a privilege, and as they scramble for access to community resources to highlight their culture and their art, our culture and our art opportunities for community folks who volunteer at the festival will gain them free access to renowned music, as well as incredible work and service experience. And this is going to be particularly helpful to young adults in our area. High schools like Abraham Lincoln, Coons, Miller, Creative Arts Academy, South High School, giving our youth the opportunity to access positive outlets that engage their interests. The golf course is going to be available to a much greater portion of the community as well. Increasing access to this beautiful land and the funds that are routed toward neighborhoods will help us increase our infrastructure. Thank you for your time today and have a good night. Thank you. Little time to spare. Okay. Come on, North. Okay. Sorry about that. All right, I'm going to call the next group. Max Hirsch, Helen or Andrew G. Have joined Joann Weiss and Terry Pesci. I'll come up to the front, please. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Max Hirsch, you were up 3 minutes. Good evening, Mr. President. Members of the Council. My name is Max Hirsch. I live at 1235 Grant Street in Denver, along with my family owned businesses on South Broadway and the Overland neighborhood. I'm also a student at C.U. Denver. I study music business and music cities with the creative economy. And tonight, I'd just kind of like to speak behalf of the younger residents of Denver, as well as the students that I go to school with. First off, Denver is an island for music. What I mean by that is it's very hard to break out of Denver as a musician, as a local musician, there's not a lot of places to go from Denver. We're not surrounded by a lot of other markets, and unfortunately, we're not a national market right now. So there's not a lot of national attention on our artists. This festival could change that, could flip that immediately. Not only will local artists be able to play at the stages during the festival with local stages, they'll be able to share with share stages with big names like Radiohead and stuff like that. Adding to their resume about big shows that they've played and out of town, residents are going to come to this festival and they're going to find their new favorite artist, and it might be a local Denver artist, and that's huge for us. And we're also going to be able to be playing in bars and restaurants and venues around the area. So when this ends. At 10:00 at night, people are going to want to continue to go out, which is going to help the businesses and it's also going to help the artists that are playing the shows at these businesses. Next, I wanted to touch on the what my age group is doing right now. When we're going into the workforce right now and we're the trend has flipped from. Go into a finding a job in a city, going to the city and hoping that you like the city. It's now you're going to a city for the culture. You're going to a city for the lifestyle. And you're going to search for a job in that city. And I think the Denver brand and the Denver culture is great and it's amazing and we're going in the complete right direction and I love it so much, and I think that this can really help that culture and really help that brand and be a positive for the city of Denver. Thank you all for your time and consideration. Thank you, Mr. Hersh. Thank you for the time. All right, Eleanor. Thank you. Council members excuse me. After sitting here for 5 hours after work, I'm a little rough in the throat, but thank you for the opportunity to speak. You all have heard from me and some of my other neighbors who are the neighbors of Oral and North, a registered neighborhood organization recently. I really just want to touch on a couple of points, and that is we have a great concern in our neighborhood about the use of the golf course for this festival, just in principle. I'd like to get this on the record. It's been a designated park since 1956. On September 10th, 2010, the Denver Department of Parks and Recreation adopted rules regarding admission based events in Denver parks. These rules were the result of a lengthy public process that included input from many citizens, citizen groups and agencies in order to address conflicts related to major, massive events being held in parks and inundating neighborhoods, etc.. The following parks were designated as parks were admission based. Events may be permitted. I think you all know what they are. Civic Service Center. Park. City Park. Confluence Park. Skyline Park. Central Park. Park. Field Park. Ruby Hill Park. Overland Park is not among them. The rules also state that an ABA shall be no more than four days, including set up and tear down, and ABA shall not allow public attendance to exceed 7500 persons. No ABA shall occupy more than 20% of a contiguous area in a given park. So we recommend. And respect those rules and those agreements and that you say no to this contract based on that. We further recommend that the Denver City Council take back oversight and regulation of Denver's parks. Parks are public. Public used to be in public. Public now. Seems to me in private. Maybe I haven't caught up with the language changed. I'm not a psychologist, but I think we need to think about putting the public back in parks and also to respect small, unique neighborhoods and not inundate them with massive numbers of people. And we don't have the infrastructure to support this. And while I think the festival may be a terrific idea, it's the absolute wrong venue. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Andrew. Yeah. Hello, counsel. Thank you for having me here. My name is Andrew Huff. I live on the 200 block of Acoma, just a few blocks from the festival. I've been to most of the meetings that have pertained to this event. It's really been a wonderful experience. Everybody that has been involved with it has really spent their due diligence making sure that everybody's best interest has been heard. That includes the folks from Superfly, as well as the city council, as well as the neighbors. I'm excited for the opportunity. You know, it's it's a wonderful thing to have this type of cultural event in the city. It's something that I don't think Denver necessarily has right now. I'm also excited to use the park as an angle for, you know, I'm not necessarily out there using that, even though it's amenity just blocks from my house. And I really think that this festival can be a beacon of the cultural fabric of the city. I think that it's it's a really awesome opportunity. And I very much trust that so much that has gone into this, that it is a really good opportunity for the city. And that's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Jeff. Joann Weiss. Weiss. Weiss. Sorry about that. Hi. I definitely shaved off a few years in Purgatory by sitting in the Keys. My name is Joanne Weiss. I live at 540 West Ewell Avenue, a few feet from the golf course. From the get go, we've been told that this is a done deal. So my statement tonight and I still feel that way. I feel overpowered by that. But I have a statement to make that just for the record, just to get it out there. When lobbyists, corporate profiteers and city government officials gang up on our neighborhoods to fill their coffers and advance their careers, it can make a person feel a little crazy. Throughout this process, our collective voices have been drowned out by a tsunami of hype and propaganda. Few few questions have been adequately answered and legal issues hardly addressed. For some of us, the long game is clear. Degrade the park. Displace the people and develop the land for the greater good. This aggressive behavior has at times left us feeling hopeless. The opposite of hope is empowerment. As a new newly registered neighborhood organization born on July 4th, 2017. The neighbors of Overland North is committed to the struggles of all neighborhoods under attack and parks and open spaces put up for lease to the highest bidder. This festival is a juggernaut that does not fit the French fragile infrastructure of our historic neighborhood. And it will dramatically alter the quality of our lives and our sense of community. We agree with her recommendation of the Inner Neighborhood Coalition Agency Parks Committee that the city should create a permanent festival site to accommodate an event of this magnitude. Please vote no on the Superfly contract. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Terry Pascual. PESCA Well, Mr. El there. Good evening, Mr. President, and members of Council. My name is Terry Pasqua. And I live on Jewell Avenue from right across the street from over the golf course with my husband, Paul Murdaugh. We are not golfers, although we have buckets of golf balls that are accumulating in our yard. And since we're not golfers, we do not get to benefit from this open space for most of the year and feel that it's actually underutilized as a public parking space. I've lived in the neighborhood for nine years and I'm part of the neighborhood association and I am for the music festival. Councilman Clark and David Erlich have been very open and honest with all their communication in various public meetings regarding the plans and processes related to the festival and the impact on the neighborhood. As credible issues have been brought up, the promoters have listened and have included them and to publish guidelines which will be implemented through the final planning stages. The promoters have been very open and willing to listen and to work with us and we will continue to work with them so that any unforeseen issues that come up in the first few years are evaluated and are appropriately addressed. I have total confidence that this will be a good thing for all parties involved the golf course, the neighborhood and the city at large. With Denver's growing and changing demographics, our parks need to be able to provide a variety of types of usage, not just golf, which only caters to a small percentage of the population. A music festival makes perfect sense and that it would allow enjoyment of this park, if only for a few days of the year, to a much larger and diverse population. And the direct impact to overland neighborhood is only three days. What better way to celebrate our neighborhood in the city of Denver, but with a musical cultural festival in a natural urban setting where it provides a venue for local artists. The increased traffic into the local area before, during and after the festival would bring a boost to the local economy and businesses along the developing South Broadway corridor. My husband often asked me, But how do you really feel? I'm not a public speaker, but I am a lover of live music and dance and I love my neighborhood. The good vibes I felt from attending the concerts at Levitt Pavilion last week still linger, and I'm looking forward to more live music in the hood. I'm really excited to see how this all comes together, and especially to watch out my front window as the construction of the main stage unfolds. Council members. We want this music festival. We want this for the betterment of the golf course, the surrounding neighborhoods, our local businesses and the city of Denver. Let's bring more good vibrations into the city. The amount of love and joy coming out of this would be exhilarating. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Pascal. All right. Thank you for those who came up. I'm going to call up the next five. Laurie Paulson, Paul Middaugh, Phil Hanlon, Heinlein, Jack Unruh. And I want to call one more Kathy Dugan. Okay. Laurie Paulson, you're up first. You have 3 minutes. Yeah. That's me. I'm Mary Kay Paulson. I live at 520 was Jewel Avenue. And. I am not for the destruction of the golf course. You can't replace which which you have. All these people excuse me? Whether it be 30,000, 80,000 over three days. Well, not only destroy the wildlife, the habitat, the environment. What it's going to do is it's going to kill people. And you have the your words have the power of life and death. There are fragile elderly people. Disabled people. People on a fixed income. People that are dying. End of life care. Do you sure you can turn down the volume? Sure you can try to put it or put it further down the street. But we live across the street. There are people that are dying and the reverberations or whatever your technical term is for the boom and the base. You can't do anything about it. And people will feel this. People with emphysema. I've been in nursing for many years. I had to retire because my back's messed up and my body's messed up. But I wouldn't trade a day of it because I care about people. And I made a difference in their lives. That's a life enhancing moment. You can't get that. I've been to concerts in a couple days. Or. Something else. A concert is not a life enhancing moment, but taking care of your people in your neighborhood. Treating them kindly with respect. Helping them. When you see they're struggling, this is the kind of people we have. This is our neighborhood. Concerts that come and go after a couple of years, it won't be new anymore. And what he got left. People on a fixed income that can't afford to move for a few days. How do we leave our property? We've got to what? We can't replace it. How about can you replace my husband's life as he struggles to breathe? Try holding your breath. Take a deep dove and hold your breath until you can't. And you try to take in areas that you can't. It is impossible. Your lungs can't do it. And that's a lot of these people are living moment to moment just worried about. How am I going to breathe? Am I going to breathe? That's your whole day. That's your whole night. This concert, the noise, the chaos, the uncertainty of what's going to happen to them. And their yards, their homes. This is an abomination. It's so wrong on so many levels. And I ask you to take this into consideration. What do we do with people who are dying and who this all act Christmas passing. Your time is up. Thank you. Paul Bader. Good evening, Mr. President. The members of the council. My name is Paul Vidor. I lived on this jewel avenue with my wife. Terry, directly across Overland Golf Course. They're both. Enthusiastic supporters of this. Music festival. I'm also a dreamer. And personally. I would like to believe that this ought to be a done deal. Because I see you all as our change agent. Not just for our common good, but also for a greater good. I also believe in magic and consummate. Clark, I think you would agree that Thursday and Friday night there was Magic and Ruby Hill at the first two concerts at the Levitt Pavilion and. To me, Leavitt Pavilion is already becoming a good testament of what's possible with the right intentions. Imagine if Super Fly could also use the new Levitt Pavilion during their events. Wounded and hence all the magic. Council members. I believe that in the years to come, you will look back with great pride that you were so forward looking and also a dreamer by your support of this festival. I believe that through the years after years, the success of this festival, you will personally observe Overland Golf Course being uplifted by improvements that this music festival helped to fund that you will observe. Are nearby neighborhoods and businesses also being more and more uplifted? As well as our great city of Denver, is being uplifted in its irresistible attraction to so many who want to live here. I even believe that most who are now against it will also come around later to support it. I believe that eventually we can build a bridge between all of us, the enthusiastic supporters and all those who are passionately against it. We do want them back in our fold. As we understand it, there's a pending contract is now on the table and in the months to come, it will be expanded through the addition of several what I call operational plans, such as parking, security, transportation. I believe that our for and against neighbors can, in good faith participate together in a related advisory boards committed to the year to year improvements of these operational plans. Most of the fears and concerns can be mitigated. Clearly, there will be kinks to work out. Respectfully, I'm asking this council to vote unanimously for this event, and I'm also taking this opportunity to publicly invite the opposition to join in and work with us. Let's do this. Let's have more music. Let's celebrate and let's dance. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bradshaw. Phil Heinlein. Well, let's see. My name is Phil Heinlein, Denver resident and former sound engineer. I love music. I love parks. But it's sad to see one sacrificed for the other. I'm sure you've seen those big stacks of concert speakers. I'm talking a really big one. Okay. Now, imagine somehow I snuck one of those stacks in here, Pastor. Good securities in there. Or maybe I'm wealthy enough to drive a flatbed trailer all around here with a full 20,000 watt counter play on it. Okay. You would have me arrested. And appropriately so. Because you, the government, rightly consider the volume from that size. Inappropriate, inappropriate for a minute, let alone three days. You and the good folks in the surrounding buildings want to conduct business. But what about the homeowners near Overland Park? What do they want to conduct? Why did they buy a modest home in a very modest neighborhood? This is money making in a public park. 2 to $300 tickets. The audience mostly white. A scheme by the affluent. For the young. An affluent. Simply limited access commerce. In a public park. Everybody but the neighbors is getting a cut. Appropriate. In New York City, when they permit theater and music in a park. Almost all the tickets are free. A public space for the public. Imagine that. Now surrounding Denver, there dozens of would be max Oscars. Remember Woodstock farmer willing to rent their farms for much, much less. So why did the promoters fly some council members around the country wine and dine them? Because leveraging the grass and trees of Overland Park will result in greater profits. Leveraging the grass and trees. Good for business. Funny thing. I know in your hearts most of you think this is wrong. Inappropriate. But the money's too good. Principle versus money. This administration. Not a chance. These Oberlin neighbors are simply not affluent enough to afford government protection. Imagine if the only. Neighbors had the same resources. Say the good folks living on seventh Avenue. Imagine that we wouldn't even be meeting here. This would have been over. Not even happening. We had time to invoke Warren Zevon. You know, send lawyers, guns and money. Sadly, I have no confidence that you city council will do the right thing. Your votes have been counted. The press release already written. This hearing is just public theater. And you're the cast performing. Well, at least you're making union scale. And the tickets were free. Know this. With your vote, you'll be reducing the public in public space and probably never be able to watch. It's a Wonderful Life. Quite the same way again. Thank you, Mr. Healy. Jack Unruh. Thank you, Mr. President. Council members. I'm Jack Unruh. I live four blocks south of the park and. Have done so for 37 years. And the last time that you saw some of us here who are. For the the festival. Was the meeting. Before Thanksgiving when through Councilman Clarke, we brought the proclamation of. Denver as a compassionate city to you. And I mentioned that because we really do respect and love and honor the people who are extremely. Opposed. To the park. I, on the other hand, am not and I think the best way I can I can support that position is to talk to Councilman Pash Cashman's point. Does it make the neighborhood better? I believe it will. And not just by. Bringing notoriety and. Recognition and. Visibility to the neighborhood, but in the same way that the Botanic Gardens concert makes the Botanic Gardens neighborhood better. All the events in Civic Center Park make the Golden Triangle a better neighborhood. The Greek Festival makes Hilltop a better neighborhood. We make it a better neighborhood by hosting and honoring the the desires and the good times that will come out of this not only for the attendees, but also for the musicians who will be well paid, the artists who will participate, the concessionaires who will be there. Change is hard and it's it's uncomfortable, but it's the way to the new normal. And in that sense, since. It's always happening, it is fair. And when we make our neighborhood a host. So that things are better for others, that makes us better neighbors to others. The mixing that will take place. At the very diverse audience with a very diverse audience. In terms of families, ages. Ethnicities, music preferences and so on, is what Denver needs to do. And so I hope that you will resoundingly and unanimously vote yes in favor of the contract. Thank you. Ms. Unruh Okay. Cathy Duggan Oh, yeah. There you. Hi. I'm Cathy Duggan and I live at. Sorry about that. Doug and I live at 1947 South L.A. Street. I'm a half a half a block from the proposed music festival. I say propose kind of tongue in cheek, because, quite frankly, as we've been reading in the paper and hearing, it's pretty much a done deal. And my belief is that it's been a done deal since we've before the city was first approached. That said, I want you to keep in mind I ask that you keep in mind when you vote, we are human beings were not collateral damage. Most of the people in our neighborhood cannot afford to go to this festival. And quite frankly, I think it's a little bit of lead us to have an event in a neighborhood where people can't go to it. We can't afford it. I can't afford it. The other thing that I would like to ask you to do as you consider this, is to think about would you want this in your neighborhood? Would you want 70 to 80000 people for three days and three nights? And that's just the festival time. That's not the set up and the tear down. But would you want them in your side, back or front yard? Would you want to open your window in the most beautiful time of the year, in my opinion, fall and hear music that you know, I love music, quite frankly. I have musicians in my family. I have a nephew who plays in festivals all over the place. I don't want to hear it. All day, all night. I can hear the baseball games going on. I love it. It's an hour long. So my question to you, as you think about this, think about would you want to for three days and three nights, would you want to be subjected to music all day, all night, 70 to 80000 people in your backyard, your side yard, your front yard, people you don't know? Yes. We can always leave. We certainly can leave. We could move out for the weekend. I don't want to be Tommy when I have to leave, especially when I have 70 to 80000 people in my yard that I don't know. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time. Thank you, Miss Dugan. All right. I'm going to call the next five. Please come to the front bench. Mara Owen. Diane Thiele. Justin Bressler. I think he's gone. Ronayne Montoya. And one more then Ericsson. Mara. Owen, your first. Hi City councilwoman, city councilman, thanks very much for having us here tonight. My name is Mara Owen, and I would first like to say thank you to everyone here on both sides. We really do. To make a good neighborhood need both sides of every issue. And I think that the contract has been made better from every input on every side. And so I just want to say thank you, especially with how this is going for the shared passion. I am the president of the Overland Park Neighborhood Association, and I'm here representing my personal opinions. I have lived in Denver my whole life and I've been in the Overland Park neighborhood living at Broadway and Evans since 2011. I'm personally a strong supporter of the festival. Just one of the many reasons I'm a supporter is that this festival will keep Parkland in our neighborhood solvent into the future and allow the golf course to cover critical and much deferred infrastructure improvements. This ensures a lasting park space in our neighborhood that is well-kept and not in danger of being closed, developed or even run into the ground. This piece of land is a huge asset to both our neighborhood and to the city, with the amount of people moving to Denver and needing space to recreate in an increasingly dense urban area. Spaces like this are precious and need to be both utilized and maintained. Currently, the golf course is a for profit enterprise and not simply a park free to the public. It charges a fee for using the course and tries to cover those expenses using the revenue. They regularly host public events such as the demo night and a beer liquor garden that they did on July 21st. And they're available to host tournaments and special events. In my opinion, this is a good thing and the Superfly Festival is simply a continuation of this existing use. Having a diversified income for any business is much more fiscally responsible and can bring more people into the space who may not be interested only in golf. The festival also hopes also helps to incentivize and fund improvements in the neighborhood and the wider city of Denver. It directly contributes $1 per ticket to a community fund that can help make our neighborhood and the surrounding community a better place. To put all this into perspective. I've attended quite a few of the meetings for the upcoming General Obligation Bond, and I was so surprised by the list of worthwhile projects on the capital improvements list, as well as the amount of deferred maintenance in our city. Watching people choose which projects to fund and not fund was painful when all of them are incredibly important and some of them far overdue. This festival is an opportunity to increase funding for some projects, perhaps like these, without any type of tax on already burdened citizens. It would be a shame to ignore this opportunity after having to cut so many projects off of the bond. In addition to all that, it's important to keep in mind that we were talking about a music festival, an inclusive all ages music festival where people come together to celebrate the cultural achievements of our society. Music is something we have already seen as a huge community asset in the new Levitt Pavilion and has the same potential as a catalyst here. This festival can build on and encourage the music identity that is already present and growing in our neighborhood. And with events and venues such as the new Levitt Pavilion, the Underground Music Showcase, Swallow Hill, Herman's Hideaway and the upcoming color of public radio headquarters on Ruby Hill. The festival has this opportunity to strengthen the existing sense of identity. Thank you. Right on time. All right. Thank you, Miss Allen. All right, Diane. Good night. Counsel people in. Mr. President, my name is Diane Thiel. I live in Denver. Our administration continues to want to use our public parks and facilities for private gain. People have to constantly come down here, right here and say no. We're here again to say no. Overland Park residents already have to live with many concerts at Ruby Hill Park. They have to put up with not just the noise of the concert, but also have to hear the equipment testing and the band rehearsals. Isn't that enough to put on the Overland Park neighborhood? I would not like to have a three day festival in my neighborhood. Not once and not certainly every year for five years. If you want this festival in your neighborhoods, I encourage you to call this company tomorrow and set it up. I think you might not get reelected if you do that, but I don't think you should put it in the Overland Park Golf course. Finally, I'm speaking up for the wildlife that live in or travel through the river corridor or hunt for food on the golf course. They do not want this festival either. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Doyle. All right. Justin Bressler. Good evening. President Brooks City Council. Thank you for having us. My name is Justin Bressler and I'm the vice president of Marketing and Business Development for Visit Denver. We are the Convention and Visitors Bureau for the metro area where 108 year old nonprofit organization whose mission is to bring conventions and leisure visitors to Denver for the economic benefit of the city, community and our partners. We enthusiastically support bringing the multiday music festival to Denver beginning in 2019 at Overland Park. A festival of this scale provides significant benefits to residents and visitors alike, which is why our organization is proud to be a sponsor. We're currently progressing the Denver Tourism Road Map as a ten year strategic plan to increase the economic impact created by tourism and ensure our industry remains vibrant and competitive for years to come. Pursuing signature events and festivals like this that draw overnight visitors is the primary initiative in the roadmaps visitor driven events goal area. Music festivals are major economic drivers, and a festival like this creates both short term and long term economic impacts to both local and city, with both local and citywide benefits in the short term. Nearby. Nearby businesses will see an immediate economic impact from the spending generated by locals and visitors who head to the festival. And in the long term, the entire city benefits by the extra taxes paid by visitors who come here, spend money and then go home. As a matter of fact, metro Denver households would pay more than $500 in annual taxes to receive the same benefits. Were it not for the $523 million in state and local taxes paid by visitors. Music festivals also help divine the define the tourism brand of a city. Top tourism destinations have major music festivals from Austin to Seattle to San Francisco. And with our growing population and active residents. Music plays a huge role in our brand. And over the course of the festival, we feel that Denver's brand would be elevated at the regional and national level and also how it incorporates Denver's culinary arts and cultural experiences. So now we live in a time when most people are listening to music privately and in earbuds and on their phone. Live music is a way for people to connect with top artists and like minded fans and communities up close and personal. We're committed to working closely with all stakeholders to ensure the festival's unique and positive, welcoming experience for all attendees. And Denver. And we urge the Council to support the festival. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bressler. All right. Rene Montoya. Hi. My name's Bryan Montoya. Um, I lived in the neighborhood for 31 years, and I want my neighborhood to prosper. But not this fast and not in this way. So we want to keep contaminants out of our neighborhood. And that means like bios and toxins that you guys have taken. And also prior to keep accountability, I would like to have you guys test the soil to make sure that all the shadow and the radioactive waste that was buried 300 feet from there is is actually not going to be coming up when all these people are coming through, peeing everywhere, making bile everywhere. All these uranium, radium and thorium are going to be coming up from the ground if it hasn't been analyzed prior. So that's one thing I want. Is soil samples done prior to exposing 60,000 people to this kind of atmosphere? On top of that, there's already squatters along the river. What are you guys going to do about that? Are you guys going to stop the whole area around it? Not only that, but fire hazards like we need. Part of zoning should be. You should have your fire. Fire? Exactly. Fire person. The chief of the fire people there for making your zoning because they know what's safe and what's not safe. So having people come in three avenues versus downtown Denver, which you could also look up on your Denver Parks and Rec that September, those dates are free for the Civic Center. There's nothing going on there. So your super fly thing could go on downtown where it's prepared to have that many people come in. There's there's actually bus systems and light rails and good avenues for people to not have dangerous building the bridge within before it's even put in is wrong. Saying that you're going to be making all these promises and having a lengthy list is not right. Saying these all these promises prior to actually doing them is not right and is not part of my agenda. And I do not want to support this. I do not support the music festival. I am very, you know, artistic and I love creativity. But it needs to happen like. Like. Like in a like accordance. Like right now they have the music festival and they're like testing it out up at the Ruby Hill. Your second event you guys started and you barely know what the impact of it. Exponential growth. If you know anything about that, you guys saw the 420 event go from. I went there when I was like high school. 200 people now look at it, that's exponential growth. And so yeah, $200,000 ain't nothing. $200,000 a nothing to destroy a historical landmark. Not only that, but to go in there and allow kids to be along the river. They get so trashed, they get they they're going to go in there and make you guys. Forget about what you guys came in voted for. They're going to be so drunk. I've seen it. I've seen these college students. They don't know their limits. And they they throw themselves they're going to be right on the banks of the river, having you guys fish them out for days so you guys could, like, make this decision . But I do not want people coming into my neighborhood. And I've been to Mardi Gras. I've seen it. I've seen what people do and the lack of respect that they have for the environment. Our neighborhood is not set up like Mardi Gras, where we take all we have the space all the way up until the very last you guys. We have people saying, I just have to have prior as your your lawn, you can't build on because it's your guys. But we've got to maintain it. Right. So. That's the difference is this area is not prepared. The safety is not taking care of. You guys haven't done any preparation in the sense of Shattuck. Have you. And I think exposing 60 to 80000 people is like very, very important. I'm OSHA, 30 certified, and I know the standards that you have to take in order to build. And so not only that, but. Like. You guys are going to be like, you know, stumbling in this. Time as a thank you. Thank you. All right, Dan Erikson. Good evening. Council President Brooks Member of Council. My name is Dan Erickson. I live at Ruby. I live in Ruby Hill at 1390 South Canosa Court. Tonight, I come forward in support of the proposed music festival at the Overland Golf Course because it will provide an opportunity to showcase Denver's culture through local art, music, food to tens of thousands of people that will attended here. I'm a fourth generation Denver native. I grew up in South Denver. I am a fine artist. I've been working in the medium of painting portraits on street signs for the past 17 years. I recently had a piece of my work accepted into the permanent collection of the American Jazz Museum in Kansas City. I have been fortunate enough to show my work around the country as well as been in a bunch of publications with my work. I've had gallery representation the past seven years in New York. But Denver is my home and I really enjoy sharing my work with the public through all spaces around town, like Dazzle Jazz or the Servery, or through murals like the one I painted at Metro State Center for the Visual Arts. I'm also very excited to be providing the artwork for the green rooms at the new Levitt Pavilion and Ruby Hill, and I consider it a huge privilege and honor to be working on any creative projects in my neighborhood. As an artist, I've appreciated the fact that Superfly reached out to me to ensure there is a connection between the local community showcased at the festival. This will provide an opportunity for the local artists to be connected with new audiences and to make the Denver Music Festival site reflect the amazing culture with the city has to offer . I look forward to working with the festival organizers and local artists on the details of this exciting plan in the coming months. In addition to its commitment to the arts, this festival excites me as a resident of Ruby Hill. Superfly has done a great job of reaching out to the neighborhood through extensive community outreach. They have been very responsive to the neighborhood concerns. But perhaps the most exciting aspect of the festival for me and my family is the community fund that will be financed by $1 of each ticket sold. That's $800,000 for Overland Park in Ruby Hill over the proposed five years. That will make my neighborhood a better place. I thank you again for your time and urge you to vote yes on supporting the Superfly Festival. Great. Thank you, Mr. Erickson. Okay, I. Okay. We're going to call the next five. I assume some of these people are not here. Bridget Walsh. David Warner. Okay. Daniel Lowenstein. David. David there. Okay. I guess her and Marilyn Barela. Okay. David Warner, your first. Good evening, Mr. President. Fellow council members. I feel your pain. I am also a council member in another city and if I was giving this speech now, there'd be nobody here. I don't know how you guys do it. I'm not necessarily opposed to this, although for one, I think there are better venues. I think Ruby Hill might be better. It's at least 20 acres larger than the area and Golden Gate Park where the Outside Lands Festival is being held. I also feel this is a subtle attempt. Maybe not right away, but an attempt to close overland down. There's been talk about this before. This could be a first step. I'm going to take a different approach. I'm not I'm not going to try to appeal to anybody's emotions or anything. I'm going off what I read in the paper and what Superfly, his website, says. I'm a finance person. I have not read your contracts, so if I state something wrong, you'll have to correct me if we're going to sign a long term deal. I think it has to be done right. I don't know if any of you remember the Grand Prix in 89 and 90, Dummar was on the hook for about $1,000,000 and that contract was done right too. So. If I can make one comment. All I want to discuss is all I'm going to do right now is compare revenues from the San Francisco Festival to what we're going to get. In 2014. This is off their website. They generated for the San Francisco Parks and Rec District about two and a half million dollars for their event. The attendance was around 200,000 people for the three days. That comes to $12.53 per person that went back to the rec district. This is based on all their figures, the 11% gross, all their different fees. What we are being offered is $9.89 per ticket. This is based off an attendance of 120,000. Based on the same, I calculated $93 average ticket price. I think we need a better deal than that. This is also based on everything that there was in the paper, the rent, all the different funds going to the Enterprise Fund, the golfer discount the seat tax that are 10%. The one thing that I think you guys are missing is I don't I guess you calculated the $200,000 rent as something that would supplant the lost revenues from over the golf course as the golf course, the driving range. The restaurant, the pro shop. I think you. So you're not considering this loss of revenue and you're also not considering the fact that you're cleaning up 130 acres compared to 69. Golden Gate Park has minimal lost revenue, but we do what I recommend in the last 6 seconds is I think you're too low. You need to read this contract. You need to add at least a 3% ticket fee to get back to the golf course and to give back to people in the neighborhood store. That's a time's up. Thank you. All right. Mr. Daniel Lowenstein. Hello. Well, my father was probably best or very fondly remembered for doing the festival caravan program in the parks of Denver. He well, this was a really organic process where he worked with the neighborhoods and the shows that he developed were of buying for the community. And he in the process of working with various neighborhoods to see if they'd like shows in the parks. Some neighbors in neighborhoods would opt for shows in the parks and some wouldn't. And he would respect that. And. My father, he considered the public parks public and saw these shows for free for everyone. And this was in the seventies and eighties and. Well, he was never too fond or involved in things where the public areas were taken over for private use and. I feel that way too. I think that public land should be for the public and private. Should should seek another venue and. That's what I say. All. Thank you, Mr. Lowenstein. David Richter. Good evening, Mr. President. Council. Thanks for having us here tonight. My name is David Richter. I live at 252 Pennsylvania Street. I am Councilman Clark's representative on the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board. Crab has been updated pretty much every month, I would say maybe more often in and out of meetings since the promoter first brought this proposal to the city sometime, I guess last fall or late last summer, I'm not sure which as a body we haven't made any specific recommendations on this proposal. But as keeper of the minutes and I'm the secretary, I can tell you that the board has generally made some positive comments about what we have heard. There have clearly have been some members of crab that have had some concerns about the usual issues related with a big festival like infrastructure, traffic, perhaps safety. I personally have attended a number of community buildings, meetings excuse me, and participated in the city survey. Seen the results of that and the. Metrics during the process. And it seems to me overall that the promoters intentions, aside from the contractual obligations, will mitigate pretty much all reasonable concerns. It won't be perfect. I think Happy Haynes alluded to that herself, but it Prabhu let me just leave you this thought. Pretty much every month we're confronted with a common theme. It's How can we make a park more versatile? Accommodate new users. Activate a space in a unique. And purposeful way. I think this proposal is worth the effort. And I think it has tangible and intangible rewards for both the city. The golf community. And yes, believe it or not, I think. Ultimately even the local neighborhood, plenty of. Thank you, Mr. Rector. All right, Merlin, Barilla. Good evening. Thank you for having this courtesy hearing. My name is Marilyn Barella and I live at 1420 South Osage Street. I'm a native of Denver and have lived just across Florida next to Ruby Hill Park for 50 years. We were told by David Erlich and John Clark that if the neighborhood did not want Superfly on Oberlin Golf course, then Superfly would find another venue. The majority votes of both the Oberlin neighborhood and mine are against Superfly on Overland. Don't betray our trust. Find another venue for Superfly, as promised. This contract is all speculation. A big guess about something that is not known. A risky business assumption. Upfront, taxpayers are supposed to pick up the tab for police, fire department and trash services. This is not what we were initially told. Again, this is speculated to be 200,000. A big guess. I contend it will far exceed that amount. Denver's man hours of time already spent on planning this proposal must have added up to be an enormous expense to the taxpayers of Denver. If approved, DEMARS Future man hours of planning costs will be even greater. Shocking, I suspect, to the citizens of Denver. If you approve this contract, you are going to use taxpayers money in defiance of the vote against it. Super fly on overland is precedent setting. This contract needs to be held in the proper venue, not on Overland. Don't stand behind David Erlich, whose only reason not to have it in the proper venue is because they don't want to be on concrete. Don't betray the golfing community, the neighborhoods, the environment, wildlife, and all the citizens of Denver. Denver's government has lost its credibility. Ask any citizen of Denver or even Denver's employees about the collaborative process that Denver espouses. They will tell. You it's a big joke. Denver's government does not represent the citizens of Denver. There's hatred and division in the city of Denver that I've never seen before. Much of it caused by the proposals of different government. I'm here to ask you. To vote no to the super fly contract. Stand up and protect Denver's priceless parkland and golf courses. Stand up for the citizens of Denver. Don't stand up for the private, corporate profit interests of Superfly. Restore your credibility and vote no to the Superfly contract. Remember, we already have 50 concerts each summer at the Lemon Pavilion. Please have some consideration. For our neighborhoods. Keep Superfly off of opening. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Miss Perella. We are at an hour, and there are four more speakers. And if it's okay with the council, I'd like to keep it going. Dylan Clark is praying. Okay. Ronnie Crawford, please come to the front running. Crawford, LeAnn Montoya, Jesse Helms Theater. That I get the right. And Margaret kiss. And actually, I didn't pause it when I was calling people. So you actually guys do have a little bit more time. Okay, um, Ron Crawford, you're up. Howdy, Mr. President. Ladies and gentlemen of the Council, thank you for enduring all of this. It's late night. Everybody's tired. What I want to speak to is the Overland Park neighborhood run in Crawford, 2149 South Park Street, 17 year resident of Overland Park. I am vice president of the Overland Park Neighborhood Association. I want to approach something a little different here that our neighborhood is called Rhizome. Everybody knows Rhino because they've got that rhinoceros logo and everybody knows that all that's going on up there will rise, though. We're we're at the beginning. So for river south, the river is a main amenity of our neighborhood. We are the last neighborhood in Denver on the river. And it is such a great amenity. On July 2nd, I would a tube, tube and rafting trip down the South Platte. We started at Mineral and got out at Grant Frontier 19 tubes. It's a great river. It's a great thing to see. And everything is different from the river. I work with a couple a couple of groups, Denver Trout Unlimited Project Healing Waters, which just gets veterans back to fishing. It is a great amenity. I would like to see this concert happen. I am for the concert. Absolutely for it. This will bring a lot of people to see one of Denver's overlooked and greatest amenities, which is the Denver South Platte. My colleagues at Denver Trout Unlimited call it from Chatfield to Commerce City. It's more than Denver, but the Platte starts way up in the mountains. So that's Denver. South Platte. It's a great thing. A lot of cities have their river walks and things located around their river. I would like to see that happen. I think that if we get 30,000 people, 100,000 people to see that river that has been reconstructed, it is reconstructed in the river from Grant Frontier to almost to the Mississippi Bridge in water. And our neighborhood is a city of parks with past canals, grant frontier, Overland Park, Pond Park. There's a lot to see there. The whole riparian area has been rebuilt. All of those parks are pretty, pretty brand new. Couple of years old and the river's looking good. I finished last night at the bridge at Grant Frontier Court. A 16 inch rainbow and an 18 inch rainbow. The fish are in there. I want to make that river a place where people come. It's a destination because it's a wonderful place that's right in our city. And I want our our visitors for the concert to come down there. I'm not talking about drunk college students. There will be game wardens, river rangers, everybody watching all that. I want people to see the beauty of our river and the beauty of our neighborhood. Thank you. Mr. Crawford. Thank you. River South. All right. You heard it here. Heard it first. Here. All right. Leon Montoya. 3 minutes. Hi. My name's my name's LeAnn Montoya, and I live at 700 West Asbury. I had I bought my house 32 years ago, and I raised six kids and nine grandchildren in that home. And my kids have gone up and down that neighborhood, know everybody there. They've gone to the park, down to the weed. Every night we do our nightly walk on the golf course, so there are uses for it. If people really want to go out there and see what uses there are, besides put a music festival in there. One of the reasons why I'm against the music festival is because we are a four by two block area. That's all it is. And if you're going to have 60 to 80000 people in that neighborhood and say they're going to come in on the Florida side, they're still going to overflow into our side, they're going to overflow into the park and they're going to overflow into the river. We already have squatters. There are already up and down the Platte, which from what I heard, is illegal, but they still all out there living out there. And the crime rate has gone up because of that. Most recently, we had an incident where I couldn't even go into my neighborhood, a four by two block area with three entrances I couldn't get in. The police kept it blocked off because they were searching for someone that ran away from the cops. This was like a week ago. So that just a little bit of the crime you start bringing in, all these people in here don't think they're just going to be there for three days. If you've got people coming in from all over the country to see this music festival, they're going to be sitting up in an up along the river and up on Ruby Hill and all around the neighborhood for at least a week before. And so it's going to cause a lot of problems. There's going to be people disrespecting our property. There's people that we don't know going in and out of our neighborhood that you keep promising that they're not going to come in. I don't understand how you think they're going to come over that bridge, that rickety bridge over Santa Fe and and not come through our neighborhood, not come through our streets to get to the golf course. I don't know how else you guys are planning or they're planning to bring them through if they're coming through Florida. I think also one of the same things, too, is that a lot of people are against it, just besides us. The people that matter are us, people in that four by two neighborhood, because we're the ones we're going to have the direct effect from it. Not anybody else. Not any of you guys. Not any of. You guys, only us people that live in that four by two block area are going to feel the direct affect for three days with music pounding and people walking, even them, even though the people there, 60 to 80000 is going to make more noise than the people, than the music. And it's going to be really rough on us. And who's going to take care of any property damage? Is that in the contract? You're going to take care of property damage for us? I'd like to see that. And I am totally against this. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Montoya. All right, Jesse Homesteader. Thank you. Good evening, President Burks and the members of Denver City Council. My name is J.C. Homesteader. I own both residential and commercial property in the Overland neighborhood. Currently, I'm serving my second term as the president of the local maintenance district on Broadway as well. I'm one of the board members that should be in a hopefully very soon time be bringing to this board a potential business improvement district petition. So I'm speaking firsthand for the businesses, and I want to say that the business owners along Broadway haven't done all the research to know all the numbers. However, there. Are very eager. We have met with David Erlich and Liz Adams and have engaged in what the businesses believe is going to be very beneficial for them. For example. The local businesses are able to have a presentation at the concerts, which means you can go to the beer tent and get a local brew from Declaration Brewing, which is located on South Delaware, or go to the food tent and get some delicious chicken from post chicken. I believe the Super Superfly is very invested in our community. It's our ideals and our ideals because they want to showcase the amazing culture that we have in our neighborhood. The businesses in Overland area are a diverse and unique bunch, but they're united in support of this festival. Thank you very much. Thank you. And I'm really hungry for some chicken, so thanks for that for mentioning that. All right. Um, last but not least, Margaret Rundle. Somebody left the glasses. Anyway, my name is Margaret Brown Dix. I live in West Platte Park. I'm at 1625 South Downing Street. I imagine a lot of concert goers will be walking from Pearl Street and down on down to the concert. This is a big deal. It's been promoted for a long time. The first time I heard about it was through my grandson. He's 17. He's a golfer. And he talked to me about it and I said, What do you think? And he said, Well, I don't like it, but I think it's a done deal. And I said, Really, we're, you know, this is zero way. No, no, no. I think that we have some voice in this matter. He said. I don't think so. I said, Why not? He said, Well, I've heard a lot of talk at Overland. And I said, I see. He has a coach when he can afford him at Overland. He works at Overland. He's worked at Wiltshire at 17 as an East High School student. He has qualified on his own. Freshman, sophomore, junior year. He hasn't done it yet for his senior year because he's just going into his senior year for state competitions and done very well. His team didn't qualify. He was the only one who did. He's a very avid golfer. He's been all over the state. He's been on every municipal course in the city and in the state. He plays golf all the time. He dresses well, he speaks well. He has learned a lot about greeting people, meeting people. And he's learned he's learned how to handle himself. He's straight. He doesn't drink. He doesn't smoke. He doesn't use drugs. He's kind of a quiet guy. And he aspires to be on a college golf team. His mother promotes his golf. She's a single parent and she gets him to tournaments way over her budget. But she does. He's going to play in an international tournament at the end of the summer. He's disappointed in this. You bet. I followed him for 11 years on all these courses. I've watched him play. I've learned a lot about golf. I'm not a golfer. I've watched kids, girls, boys all throughout the state playing golf. People say it's dad. It's not. It's elitist is it's not. I'll tell you one thing. Municipal courts courses give opportunity to boys like him, kids that don't have it otherwise. First tee of Colorado sent him to Pebble Beach to play with the Walrus. I have no more time, but I'm telling you, it's special. So support it. It's a golf course. It's not a music venue. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hendrix. I want to say thank you to everyone who stayed this late in and got in here. I want to I implore you to stay for the questioning. And if if you do have to leave, that you'd go back and watch this portion. I want to remind members of counsel we will not be doing comments this week because we've extended it to next week. We'll just be going through the question portion. Councilman Cashman. Thank you, Mr. President. And thanks to all the overwhelming folks on both sides of the issue stuck around. David, if you don't mind. A few questions quick. What what will the ticket cost be for this event? So I'll defer to Rick generally. They'll be a one day ticket and a three day ticket. And there's also contractually a provision for a materially discounted ticket for the community. Right. In terms of the actual ticket price, I believe that hasn't been set yet. It hasn't been set yet, but likely is going to go ahead. I'm sorry for the three way tickets. Somewhere in the 250 to 325 ish range, there'll be tiered. So the earlier you buy them, the cheaper they'll be. Right. And then there'll be a single day ticket somewhere in the 85 to 95 range. Really? So considerably cheaper than outside lands. Is that what you're. Yes. Okay. Certainly. You know, the outside lands ticket price has matured as the festival has matured. And so with the same thing, probably if you have a festival at Overland, if it's. Successful and there's demand, that's likely. Okay. Is being presented as a. Of a family friendly event and my experiences with these festivals, you get got to be a fairly well-to-do family to take a couple of kids to the show. But thank you. We will likely have a free for for ten and under ten tonight. Yeah. It's typically with events like this nationally, it's, you know, typically what the pricing is. So because likely we would do something similar here. Because outside is two and under, right. Outside lands. Outside lands is different. Okay. If Denver gets a long debated festival park at some point, is there any room in the contract for consideration of it moving? I know you have a lot of upfront costs in doing a festival like this. Certainly always would be open minded to what makes sense for the community and what makes sense if there's a suitable site at some point. We'd love to take a look at it too. As far as Outside Lands goes, how? I'm not familiar with where it is in the park in San Francisco. So how far is it, say, from the main stage to the nearest homes? Is it similar as to what? You got it over? I would say. Maybe. 100 yards. 200 yards, something like that. So similar to what you had? Yeah. Yeah. There's a on both edges of the space that we use in Golden Gate Park and we use a rather large space. There is a, there are, you know, four lane roads basically on either side. And so it's right across those roads. But yes, at probably the nearest spot, something like that, a couple of hundred yards. Is there a mac? I mean, I've heard 30 to 40000 the first year, maybe building up to 80,000. Have you looked at that site? And I mean, I'm guessing if you end up doing a show there, it's going to be very successful from an attendance standpoint. Do you have a maximum in mind? How high could it go? I believe the maximum by the contract is 80,000. Is that going to get you? Thank you. And the last thing is, I've kind of gotten lost in the numbers. How much net maybe, Fred, this would be for you. How much will Denver net out of a successful. Event. Fred Wise, director of finance for Parks and Rec. It obviously depends on the tickets. Of course, tickets are old, but I didn't bring my glasses, so it's between about a million and a half to two and a half million dollars. Okay. Is the range depending on the ticket sales. Okay. Thank you. That's all I've got, Mr. President. Thank you. Councilman Cashman. Councilman Espinosa. How much would the full parking and transit plan that you're going to do cost you to do right now? We have a lot of expertize in the house, so we don't really track that as a cost. But our outside consultant that we'd be bringing in anywhere from 25 to $50000 is just a guess. As I said, we have a lot of experience with our internal team of how to devise these plans, and so we'll supplement that with a transportation and traffic engineer. Okay. What's the difference between the crowd has it? You know, if you've got the full 80,000. How long would that take for people to sort of go from 0 to 80? And then when? How like so how fast is that sort of build up? And then how fast is the. What's the window for exit. Yeah. So we layer the programing to make sure that there's a gradual ingress and gradual egress. So it usually happens over a 2 to 3 hour period that you have people coming in and usually about a two hour period people leaving. You know, it's never that you have the full amount of ticket buyers there at any one given time. People come and go. And so, you know, we feel like we have really good experience in how to layer the programing to enable that kind of flow. Do you know what the capacity is for an RTD light rail car per car? Yeah, I don't personally. It's 125 people. We have we have a member of council that used to be on our team. Yeah. Kevin, what's the capacity? 64 seating a total of 125 at what we call Crush Load. Well, no. So actually. I would wait. I would wait for the next train. 125 is standing. What is crush load? 125. That's 64 seated and the rest standing. Okay. So four card train would have 500. So you might have to bet cleanup on this one as well. Well, not on this one, but the follow up. What? So do you know what the stadium of the capacity is of mile high? The seating capacity there, the mile high stadium. Yeah. I don't. Personally know. 77. So I'm going to think about 76,000. Exactly. Councilman Brooks wins that one in then. Do you know what percentage is of that seating capacity that takes the Broncos? Right. I'm not. Anyone want to venture a guess on what the percentages just tell us because I kind of get that offline. It is between ten and 14%. So thank you. I'm asking those questions because and you know. Well, you guys are in the sort of I won't go into comment, but. Well, my concerns at committee. Were large, were. Overwhelmingly mildly addressed. I heard some things tonight that give me a lot of pause again. And in you know, you've always heard my concerns about traffic and transit and stuff like that. And more and more sort of sitting here going, how does this how does this work? And if it's really 25 to $50000 to sort of figure this one out or in the in the ballpark, which I think is sort of due diligence sort of costs. I think it's important that that that I see that. So just. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Councilman Espinosa. Councilman Ortega. Thanks. My first question is about the hotline. I'm not sure who would address that, but what I want to know is who will manage it and will the responses be in real time? Will there be a live person answering the phones? And if there are, you know, real issues that need to be addressed? How is that being handled? So there will be. A 24 hour. Manned hotline both for the. Originally it was for the festival three days. And in the. Course of the public. Discussions over several. Weeks, we added for the build up and build out period as well. So how many days in total? So while the total rental period is five weeks, so the response time I think is a half an hour by contract. So we have to have a response within a half an hour during this concert and within an hour, I believe in the end, the beginning and the end and will be manned by a person all the time and that's by contract. So that's something that. If so, that's four, five weeks during set up the event itself and then takedown it'll. Run the whole time. Will there be any fireworks as part of the event at all? I think it's not you know, it's not anticipated at this point. And I think, you know, when we put together the programing slate, we'll work with the city on that and both our security plan. But that's not anticipated currently. Okay. The reason I'm asking is because, you know, in the past, when Barry Fey used to do concerts that had fireworks at the end at Mile High Stadium, he would actually pay the cost of having the animal control people come out because people's dogs would, you know, jump through fences. And I mean, they were just roaming the neighborhood and they would help pick them up and try to get them connected back. And there was a hotline where they could connect people to it and whatnot. Is that something you all have talked about with the neighborhoods? Is that something you're willing to do? Well, I think. The the you know, the issue is, Rick said, is there's a. Series of acts that go and the final act has to end by 10:00. And there's no intention to keep people on the on the event space any longer than that. So I think it's unlikely we would do anything like that. But now we've talked to we can't move forward without the security plan, the ingress you guys plan. All of those plans will anticipate that issue. And we can't move forward with the festival unless those plans are approved by well. And I would suspect that to a large degree it would restrict part of your seating area and all of that because you have to sectioned off an entire area and, you know, if it's drier. You know, as as we've had hotter days, you know, the likelihood for a fire or something I think are real. And so I would I would advise against it. So I just wanted to ask about that. I want to ask the city attorney what the if if there are penalties built into the contract for cancelation, if things just totally go awry and we decide that we don't want to continue it into the future. I know when we did the Grand Prix, you know, the anticipation was we would do it for the fall. I think it was three years, but I think we ended up only doing it for one or two of the four years of that time frame. So are there penalties for us not continuing to move forward for the full five years of this? Proposed contract defender of his city attorney's office. We have provisions, a default. Clause in the contract that. Requires us to give notice and a right to cure of any defaults that have occurred. The city would have the right to terminate the contract for a substantial breach, so we would have to document that and they would have to give them the right to cure it to see if we could resolve the issue. And if if so, the right to cure that assumes that the next year they're going to cure the problems that happened this year or they have to cure them. Day one before day two and day three continue. Help me understand what that means. Obviously, it would depend on the type of breach that we were talking about. Okay. All right. So. I think I don't have any other questions right at this point. Thank you. Thank you. Councilman Ortega. Councilman Flynn. Thank you, Mr. President. I remember the Denver Grand Prix. Councilwoman, you were on the council at the time. They had a five year contract, and after the first year, they expected to lose about a half million. They lost 5 million and they wanted out the next year and they went bankrupt after the second. I just want to mention that I think Bill Daniels took it upon himself to write a check to cover all those losses and God bless them. This kind of reminds me of that. It in the presentation to the committee that I saw after I was out that week, but I went back and looked at it. Either happy or Fred can address this. $200,000 is what will be paid to us for each year's rent of the golf course. Is that right? Yes, that's correct. As well. Yes. Okay. I just want to wait to get to the mic. Okay. But then it says that we will waive we will credit them with $200,000. That's correct. So are they getting it for zero? Well, there's many other revenue streams coming to the city. Okay. Obviously, the 10% tax. Right. There's $2 per ticket. There's $90,000 for a landscape position at Overland. Right. So, you know, it's a we looked at it and the promoters looked at it as a package. Okay. And so. And the $200,000 of waived expenses is part. So if we're going to credit them with $200,000, why are we charging them $200,000? Are they going to give us a check? And we just do one $2,000 goes to golf. And since it's an enterprise fund, there's the issue of splitting money. So it's $200,000 going to golf. Now, the the Denver, the DRC, the revised municipal code, requires that anybody who has an event in a city park that will have more than 25 participants, and I assume you will have at least that many the concessionaire is required to deposit with the city the full cost of what we expect to be any city expenditures for that permitted event. Do you have an estimate of what the city. First of all, I question whether if we credit them with it, whether we're actually abiding by the code. But do we have an estimate of what we think we will have to spend? To support city services to this event. How much will that cost? I imagine it could be more than $200,000. Anything that's in addition to that $200,000 will be paid by the promoter. Do we know what that is? I don't anticipate there to be very much more. Most of it's for with outside contracts. Okay. So in there, they've committed to reimbursing our expenses in terms of rangers, golf, maintenance staff. So whatever we need to support and monitor them, they will reimburse. When will we know that? Because according to the code, the city code says that you can't give them the permit or happy can't give them the permit until they've deposited that in advance. Is that. Yeah. This is my contract. I mean, I would defer to the city attorney's office. Okay. The DMC that you're referencing, I'm not familiar with. Okay. And I believe the terms of the contract supersede the city code. I hope not. I don't know if that's the right for it. Okay. Contract terms. Now, Councilman, I have to take a look at the provision. It's 39, dash 73. Okay. We'll take a look at that. All right, Mr. Pratt, that's all I have for now. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Councilman Flynn. Councilman Espinosa. You are backup. Is there any. And forgive me for not looking at this. Is there any provision for neighborhood cleanup after afterwards? And does it. How far does that extend? So yes, the contract has provisions for overnight cleanup during the festival and at the end the actual dimensions of that area have yet to be determined. But we will determine that for for the for the promoters, we will define that. Area as somebody who lives next to the stadium. What you get a lot is is, is people leaving the stadium and either just dumping the things out of their car and leaving on the street or people picking, getting Uber. You know. Overrides and stuff like that in the neighborhood and again, just leaving whatever they don't want to. Pack with them. So, yes, so that is a requirement. Multiple sweeps through the neighborhood overnight is part of the contract. And then I don't know if this is happy or the city attorney, but can somebody obtain a First Amendment permit to do something like the Women's March in Overland Golf Course? So in terms of getting General Assembly a right to assemble Kermit inside of in the parks, the forms that we usually have for First Amendment protected activity, it would be what are called traditional public forums, usually in a park or within a street. And we have, through park rules, designated what those areas are that are amenable to having First Amendment activity. Okay. That's going to lead to other questions, but I'll bring them offline. Thanks, I think. Sorry. Thank you, Councilman Espinosa. Couple of questions and then I'll leave it to Councilman Clark to close us out. So we had one of the speakers kind of get into the parks policy happy. And so just want to. Is this a this is this a designated park? I'm sorry. Say that. Is this a designated park? Yes. It's a it's a part of our designated park system. It's a golf golf course, part of our golf enterprise. And is this you know, I deal with the admission based event policy question in a second, but we're this the Enterprise Fund, we're generating revenue. And are there other private events that are on this golf course? Well. I mean, in addition to the golf enterprise itself, it is a it is a fee based operation. All of our golf courses are fee based operations. They're open to the public, but they are fee based operations. Yeah, but we've. But my question is, I think this came up by one of the speakers. Have we had other private events on that golf course that were other than golf related? I, I don't believe we have on Overland, but I. Think that our. Director of golf is here and he could speak to. That. Okay. This is Scott Lake, who's director of golf. Scott was shaking his head back there. But we're going to make you come to with golf. Yeah, we do have private golf tournaments. Several of them. Okay. Do you have any private parties at all? We do have private. Parties in the clubhouse, yes. Okay, great. And then one more question. Happy the emission based event. I think we all remember that conversation. How does this how does that policy affect this particular golf course? So the admission based events policy addresses our parks. The golf courses are under the auspices of our golf enterprise. So they are a little bit different. That's one of the reasons why we approach this whole effort through means of a contract. Mm hmm. Okay. Thank you. And we add to the cost of the ticket. And thank you, Councilman Cashman, for doing that, Councilman Clark. Thank you, Mr. President. I don't have any questions, in part because I think the entire team from the city side, from the Superfly side for being you know, I've been asking questions for months and months and months. And I appreciate you making yourselves available to me at weird hours with requests from constituents and getting back to me in a very timely manner. On all of that, I just wanted to take a second to thank all of you for all of your hard work on this getting us to here. I wanted to thank all my colleagues for letting everybody speak, to give you an idea of just how local Denver politics can be if we had cut it at an hour. We have been cutting parents and grandparents of both one of my daughters best friends at school and someone I went to high school with. And so I appreciate you letting every single person speak their mind and their peace and their opinion. And most of all, I want to thank all of you who came out here and sat through a very long night and stuck with it and who have been so passionate on both sides of this. This is the community dialog that makes us better as a community and as a city. And at the end of the day, no matter what happens here, your voice is so important to that process and your passion and your thoughts and your ideas and the things that you think of that nobody else did and you bring to the table. And so I just wanted to thank everyone for being here and sticking it out. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President. Councilman Clark, I'm going to ask you one quick question before we close. There are about five, six, maybe seven people who kept saying this is a done deal. And so as someone who has been on the ground working on this. How would you respond to that? Yeah. Thank you. And that's something that's really hard for me to hear, because I don't feel like this has been a done deal at any point, including next week, when this vote is going through to to say yes or no. I think that it's hard sometimes when we're facing a tough decision and you feel like maybe there are more people on one side than your side or you feel things should be done a certain way. I think to see that and as I shared in committee, there's no set policy for when someone comes and says, can we do this on a golf course? We don't have a set thing like we do with rezonings. And so some people thought that we should do it one way. And I navigated that the best that I could, the best that I know how. And so, you know, I think that. Absolutely. At no point have I certainly thought that this was a done deal. So I don't know who they're getting that from or where they got that from. This was a, you know, important process and certainly not going to stand here and say that it was a perfect process or that everyone is going to get what they want at the end of the day, because at the end of the day, we we got to vote yes or no. Not everybody wins. But I think and I think we heard it from a lot of other people about the process being robust and could have been more robust. But I don't know where that came from. And it does make me sad because I do think that I've spent a lot of time listening and everybody involved with this has spent a lot of time listening. And I think that's really important. And I know that it can be frustrating to get to a point and think or be afraid that you're not going to get what you want to do, but that's different than it actually being a done deal. So I don't know if that answers your question. It does. Last quick question from when you first heard about this proposal until today, how long has that been? A long time. I don't remember when I first the meeting that we had when you guys called me in and said. Okay. About a year. So. So it's been a year process. And don't quote me on that. I would have to double check when exactly that was. But. Okay. The public hearing for 6087 is now closed. We will have comments next week on Monday, July 31st. We will conclude by doing a final vote. And I want to thank the city council members who've been here since 230.