Recommendation to support reinstatement of citywide street cleaning program, including enforcement on May 4, 2020, consistent with the temporary modification plan, initiated on March 17, 2020, to suspend operations while an alternative neighborhood parking program was put in place; or Adopt a policy directing staff to defer full reinstatement of the citywide street cleaning program by continuing to suspend enforcement until the City’s Safer-at-Home Order is lifted; or Direct City Manager to work with City Attorney to develop an implementation plan for a new citywide street cleaning program that would provide services twice a month (e.g., first and third Wednesday each month); conduct all necessary meet and confer requirements for any impacted employees; and, work to place all impacted employees into other vacant positions within the City. (Citywide)
A unanimous consent on item 29. Great. Thank you. Well, yeah. We'll move on to item 13, and then why don't I have the, uh, the clerk read the item, and then Mr. Modica, we will have a staff report on this because I know there's a lot of interest. And so we'll just go right in from the moment to the reading of the item into the staff report. Thank you. Report from Public Works. Recommendation to support reinstatement of citywide street cleaning program, including enforcement on May 4th, 2020, or adopt a policy directing staff to defer full reinstatement until the city's safer at home order is lifted. Or direct city manager to develop an implementation plan for a new citywide street cleaning program that would provide services twice a month citywide. So Amir and members of the City Council. So we did want to have a discussion with you tonight about streets within. So that is one of our critical services that we provide the community. And we every week we come and we collect thousands and thousands of pounds of trash and debris. And it really is one of our bigger environmental efforts that we do to keep our streets clean, but also to impact our water quality. And so when COVID 19 hit and we had the safer at home, orders go into effect that put a lot of people at home suddenly. And so one of the things we did under the emergency powers was to suspend the enforcement of streets we being and to do our best to continue that service while not issuing tickets. So we've done that now for about a month, and we did that as a way to provide relief as we created a program to offer free parking. But we really needed to come back to the council to have a higher level policy discussion about how we either continue that service or modify that service. And so we have provided you a couple of options and a recommendation. I will turn it over to Craig Beck to really kind of walk us through that and for us to have the debate and receive some direction tonight about how you want to move forward. So with that, I turn it over to Mr. Beck. Thank you, Mr. City Manager. So just to add a couple more detail, point to the information that Tom provided. I think it's important to understand that street sweeping is done citywide to not only address the dirt and debris in the gutter, but to also ensure that we have clean water because our storm drains flow into the L.A. River and then ultimately to our beach. So part of the National Pollution Discharge Elimination System Permit, or you may hear us say in the PD, yes, the city is responsible for ensuring that the water is clean before it is pushed into the river. And so one of the main ways that we we meet that standard and that requirement is through our streets, our streets sweeping efforts. As Mr. Modica said, we did suspend enforcement of street sweeping restrictions, parking restrictions on March 17th and we've been operating under that program now for a little more than a month as a way to try to address some of the parking challenges that many of our multi-family community neighborhoods have. We implemented the free parking program and so we have through this free parking program, made available over 4000 parking spaces. The number is actually 4307, to be exact. And we have roughly 1200 residents who have taken advantage of that free program. All of our lots under that program, with the exception of maybe one or two, are still open and have parking available to be utilized. And so since we've been operating under this program, one of the challenges that we've been experiencing is that people are now not moving their cars. In the beginning, we did see that people would move their cars on their designated street sweeping day. But now that is not happening. And we're before council this evening making a recommendation that we move back to an enforcement model so we can get to our street sweep program. And for women, are our clean streets strategy under our MVPDs permit. As as you may have read in the Stack proposal, there are three opportunities that we've presented to you. I think the one that staff is leaning towards is that we move back towards an enforcement mechanism, but maybe we implement a a warning instead of issuing tickets . So we could provide a warning for those that don't move their vehicles and then also provide information about where there is free parking opportunities. That concludes our report, and we're available to answer any questions. Thank you. I have a full list of folks that are queued up. Let me just make a couple a couple of comments and then turn this over to the to the council. I just really want to thank staff. I know that this has been one of the more challenging issues for us. I think it's important to note, and we've said this many times, that sweeping is a critical health and safety function and ensuring that streets are not only cleaned for for for health purposes. And they are it's a water quality issue, like you mentioned, and it's really a store management issue as well. And when we get rains, it just becomes more difficult, of course, to manage when you have drains that are full and that have not been cleaned. And so I really understand the work and and the strategic push back during the crisis. I'm also very, very sensitive to the idea that in areas that are parking impacted, which is not a majority of the city, but in these areas that do have impacts on parking, whether these are areas that are laid out in the code or whether they're not in the code as parking impacted areas. But but areas that we know still have challenges with parking. You do have serious, serious challenges. These are, in some cases, cases lower income communities, families that certainly would have a hard time paying the ticket during this time. And so I just want to thank the staff for pushing the sweeping citation process. Back. And and trying to work with the community on that as well. I am a. I'm interested to see what the council's thoughts are on this. I have personally some interest that we just don't go immediately back to fighting folks. I think there's a way to ease into that process in a way that includes some warnings, but that we make it clear that streets we need to continue. And so I'm happy to share those. But I want to also hear from the four from the full council as well. And so I've got a full list of folks. So let me just go through that list. And Councilmember Richardson. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My comments would be brief, though. So, you know, I'm not a district that has immense parking impacts. We have just, you know, one or two few areas that have apartment. However, you know, my district is one that sees a lot of damage when the streets are not clear and especially when there's rain. We have tremendous flooding in the Grant neighborhood and the Hamilton neighborhood. And so street sweeping is incredibly important. I also understand I completely understand, you know, folks are staying home and getting tickets and, you know, people are well, the people not shouldn't necessarily get tickets. So we need to figure out a balance here. What I think I'd like to see is a slow, gradual phase in of the street sweeping enforcement. I think that might look like, you know, for maybe in in part of the impacted areas. You know, those tickets are maybe it's a warning. Like the mayor mentioned, maybe a warning system in the park impacted areas for a few weeks while the phase is in. And if even a little bit a little bit faster, more immediately in the non parking impacted areas. So I again my, my comments will be short, but that's what I'd like to see. And so I move the item, I move the item for staff to sort of present a process that allows us to have some gradual phased in the more parking in impacted areas. But we do begin the process of collecting parking, ticket fees and enforcement in streets. We think yes. Street sweeping enforcement. So that so that's my most. Okay. And then, councilman, maybe you'll be open to kind of refining that as we as we move forward. Okay. Councilmember Pearce. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you for your comments. I want to thank staff as well being one of the most parking impacted districts. We definitely appreciate that. We've been able to not give tickets. I did walk almost all day on Saturday and saw many residents cleaning out their gutters. This is in addition to the emails and phone calls that my office has gotten about the streets being not clean. Of course, balancing that with the parking needs and the fact that people do not have income or their income is much smaller than it was before is really important. So I like the motion that was made by Councilmember Richardson. I think that there is we did a phased in approach. So I think around May 4th, if I recall the day the that staff wanted to go back to Street three being if we had a phased in approach through the day of the stay at home order . And so we would be doing. Warning with those cars two weeks prior. I think that that would make a lot of sense. We know one of the most difficult things about changing city services is really informing the residents of what services are changing and what that timeline is. I think that if we did those warnings, it would also make sense to include in there the information about the city lights that are open. While I appreciate that the city that we've opened up so many lot of lives aren't in the middle of neighborhoods, which is why people are still, you know, aren't moving their cars as often as we would like and why we still have spaces available. I would ask that if I know that we have been hesitant to waive meters and one of the arguments has been that we have small businesses that count on those meters to turn over. The fact is, if you drive down by March or you drive down Fourth Street or down find, there aren't people parked in those meters. And so if we did a two week period, I would like to see staff give us a presentation or include some information on waiving the meter fees up until the stay at home order so that people have a place to move their car on street sleeping days because right now they don't. That's not not something that makes sense for them, but not by box at ten blocks away. And then the other question, and I don't think I asked this last time we talked about parking and I'm going to put our city attorney on the spot because I know we've talked offline about this with Starbucks, but I wanted to clarify one more time. A year ago or so, we had asked for the city to propose funding to allow people to park in a private lot and that we wanted to work with those private lots to open them up , whether it be something like we have at Fourth and Cherry, which has a city meter and we share the meter revenue. I had heard from from staff that that was something that was not able to move forward because of legal concerns. Is that? I'm not sure. Probably if you remember, it's been a while. But do you recall legal concerns with us partnering with Private Light? Council member not I don't have a clear recollection of that. A while ago we did look at some private lives for this current situation, and there have been several legal issues that have come up with trying to reach agreements with the private lives or the private property owners who want the city to either indemnify them or compensate them for the use of the lots. There have been some businesses that, after we've spoken to them, have just decided they would allow the public to park in those lots and others have have remained off limits. But there have been some concerns raised by the private property owners and some of them are very justified on the liability issues. Mm. Thank you. And I think that that was what we had talked about before was the city providing an insurance policy, but that that came back being too expensive. So I've had lots of people ask about this because we have lots of empty private lights in my district. So that's why I want to go on record to just make sure that. The city has done their due diligence to try to open up those lots and that that has not happened, not on any part of the city. That's to say this is time that the same issue that Charlie enumerated now was the same issue that we were having back then. So it really is a question of who accepts the liability if there is a claim. You know, we're not in charge of those lights. So that was a concern. If somebody has an 88 claim and we've taken it over, who then accepts that liability. So that is something, you know, we're in different territory and times now, we're in a much more of a of a crisis. Now, if there's certain lights that are really important for us to look at, and that's a policy choice that you're willing to accept that that risk. We can look at those. But just looking at every light, I think would be we want to be a little judicious on how we do that. And I think that there are you know, there's lot so in my district on seventh Street, we've got Beatty, which has over 50 parking spots in a parking impacted area. And I know years before they had that they were open to it. And so we obviously everything's closed has been difficult to get hold of people, but I think it's another issue. But just bringing this issue back at now might not be the time if we've already kind of done our due diligence there, but I think we have to revisit it because we have parking impacts, those people that are extremely that are in tough situations. And so I just want to make sure that we're doing everything that we can, if that means revisiting it. I would appreciate that right now for this item. I like the motion that was made by Councilmember Richardson. I would hope that we can kind of hone in. I want to hear the rest of the council. But if we could do two weeks of warning in the parking impacted district in particular, I think that that would be great if there's an option for lower ticket prices or ticket fees. And then I think making sure that we're sharing information on those notices or warnings that there are other parking options because there are still people that that aren't aware of that. And so I look forward to hearing from my council colleagues at the. And this is time, you know, Mr. Mayor, can I respond to one thing? Her. So we can certainly look again and revisit the issue of private lives. I do think we are in different times than before where that was a pretty large liability that we were accepting that, you know, was was not really related to what we're looking at now, which is some, you know, some very, very tough times on people. So if you would like us to look at one or two, we could get that direction from counsel. I'd like to ask that we keep it focused. And if you have ones in your district that you really want us to look at again, we can do that and and go and contact those groups and hopefully they'd be willing to let us use their lights and we would work on the liability issue. Thank you, Tom. I yes. I mean, at least right off the top of my head, that is a lot that is, like I mentioned, kind of in the heart of it and would be a great lot. The other one is it's called the Broadway Bar, which is on Broadway, has about 20 plus spots in the back and it's gated. They have not been willing before, but but they might be now. So would love it if you guys could work with them. Thank you. Vice Mayor Andrews. You know, Tom, I want to really commend you and your leadership with our city team, which has been incredible during this crisis. You know all of you. Your department should be proud of, you know, the hard work. You know, the key issues doing, you know, this crisis. You know, but I read the South report that, in fact, there are that I met with that with the apartment building and mass and multifamily complexes. Only 15% of the street sleepers has been successful. You know, it concerns me that the cleanest of which result may help satisfy our residents, you know. But I believe. And anything that we implement. A large outreach campaign needs to be followed soon so that the residents are clear on what we are planning to do. No opportunity cost as information come when it changes week by week. So there's a lot of confusion. And I'd like to ask you, Tom, what you know with this. What can we do with this information and our utility to act on the affected by the fact remains that need to be you know you are smart enough to ask given that information about the program and the utilities both have information and know what to do about the possibility that we could do that. I don't know what we could enact. I'm just asking. So thank you for the suggestion, Vice Mayor. We have a lot of different ways to get information out. We can certainly look at utility buildings that tend to take 28 day cycles because we do it every single day. So we would miss certain areas if we did that just from a timing perspective, but we would definitely look at ways. I think the council had a good suggestion of putting it on people's cars is probably the easiest way to do it and get it directly to people. So when we're doing those those warnings that we would basically just put something right in there and so that they could find out about our programs. But we'll look at a lot of different options, including what you add four times a year. Thank you very much. Thank you. And before I go, let me just a quick announcement on the queuing system. I have everyone queued up. However, if you queue if you say if you go, if you push your service the number twice, then you lose your place in the queue and you go back to the very end. So I'm just asking. So once an item comes up and if queue and one don't, don't, don't put a second message into the system because it goes to the end of the line. Did that make sense? So I think Councilman Price may have done that. And I'm going to put you back in your original spot. So just please. And Rex, you also did the same thing. So if you guys can just just queue one, that's great. Okay. So. DB So Councilwoman Price and then that customer prices for next. Thank you very much and thanks for that clarification. I felt like I queued up right when they announced the item, but in any event, I like the motion that's on the floor. If I if I understand it correctly, my recommendation or my motion was going to be based on my conversations with Craig back that we resume normal , we resume normal street sweeping operations May 1st, of course, and then we have a two week warning period where there are no citations issued and warnings are given. And in my discussions with Craig, that would align perfectly with right now, we're not ticketing up until May 1st and then we're looking at some of the stay at home orders being extended till May 15th so that that time period would coincide with what we think where the state is headed. So that was going to be my recommendation, hopefully, Councilman Richardson, you're open to refining your motion a little bit to add some of those details. Otherwise, I support the motion and concepts that I think two things are important. But supporting people at this unprecedented time is important as well. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilman, Mango. I think you and I could put out of this. I wasn't sure if it was a recommendation of a friend of mine. We have a lot of areas that have seniors that when people park. In front of their house. They are not really as mobile to go out into the street. But as Olympia Snowe seems that her neighbors have gone out and cleaned up the as I mentioned, to come to America on several occasions. There have been times where my husband or I go out and get a dustpan and help a neighbor. But we. Have neighbors who are. Actually regularly. For us to resume. Those simply being so my has to be that the warnings are given in Turkey and actually we maintain and go back to the way we announced we would in areas that are not parking impacted, at least similar to Councilman Richardson during the day. So people are home, they can move their cars is even a possibility. I know our previous public works director talked about some efficiencies that could be had in the system. With doing multiple streets in a. Day in a different way. That wouldn't be possible with a fully engaged workforce. So I'm open to explain everything. But from our side we really do have a challenge with the gutters being pretty filthy and with the amount of debris falling from the trees. It gets to a point where if a car has been there for one week, that's two weeks of debris and a street sweeper can't even pick up the amount of debris that's in the gutter, it literally has to be picked up. And our. Team teams are very. Busy and other things. Keep thinking, Councilwoman. I mean, I know we still have a couple customers on that field. I'm going to make some comments because I think a lot of this is actually aligning. And it seems like there's a similar theme that's kind of emerging from the comments. Councilman Price has made a customer, Richardson, Councilman Mongo Pearce. And so maybe if I can just make a couple of comments to the maker of the motion and and refine it. And then if there's additional comment or if we don't like the refinements, I'm sure we'll we'll I look forward to hearing from the members. So I also agree I do like but for starters, I think that the the the citation period and signing period. I think that Councilman Price just mentioned the the the March 17th date or the end of the safer at home date. And I think that certainly should be the case or whether it's citywide, which I could support. Absolutely. Or whether it's for the parking impacted areas. But I think that should absolutely be the time when we get back to normal citation that should end with the separate homes. So really support that. I would also add that there should be, I think, a two week warning system. I like that that's been mentioned on the call and I would just get into a little bit of the details. I think what I'd like to see from staff is that in those two weeks leading up to it that on week one you would have essentially what would look like a citation or a version of a note that would go in the car. And that note would essentially say, you know, on this date. Citation and enforcement will begin again. And we have, you know, what's available for you to park your car for free and to access these lots. Here's the website or here's a phone number where you can call. And so not only that people have two weeks to adjust, but we're also giving them the information about where they can park their car for free in their nearest lot that we've created. We've created lots. I know across the city there's an opportunity to create maybe, maybe more of those. And so I'd like to see a system that way that where they can it's on their car. All right. The warning done for two weeks. And and I think that's especially important in parking impacted areas. I would also ask the maker of the motion to consider the code has a very defined version of what parking in a parking parking area actually is. And there actually aren't that many across the city. I believe Councilwoman Price and Councilwoman Pierce have official parking impacted areas, but not very many other parts of the city are are called out that way. In the coach I would ask that it's it's areas that are either defined in the code or defined by the city manager in consultation with the council members that might have areas where they feel are going to need that additional support. If if if we if we go with the the tiered system, which Councilman Mongo is saying. So I could support either the, you know, the citation citywide and parking impacted areas yet get you know, get noticed but I also like just giving everybody the we the the the the notice as well and not doing citations until we get closer to the safer at home. And so I can support either and look forward to hearing what witnesses comments are. And maybe Councilman Richardson, we can discuss those once we go to the the council comment. Absolutely. Okay. Next up is Councilwoman Zendaya's. You think your council members are just going for the motions? Understood that is a very high level protein impact said even before this crisis and have in a lot of our lives and in my district this was people with disabilities. I think that it's very important to to really recognize where those. Hoping impacted areas are testing in. Parcel effects to. Be more specific and maybe start work on old street sleeping works not so parking impacted. So I think that it's really important to make sure that we that we only stay at home order in a lot of things this seniors who aren't drinking and or aren't parking out in the street. You know, they're very nervous about going outside, period. And so it's going to be hard for them to go outside every week and, you know, move their coat. But for. Clarification. We are hoping to resume parking with what the previous council members have have added and and the mayor on May 4th, is that correct? And I think that. When you have. What you would. See a phase in time. Up until then, the stay at home order is lifted. Am I correct? Yeah, I think, Councilwoman, I think just to clarify, I think the day that staff is looking at is May 4th for kind of for resuming of street sweeping was their suggestion because I think that the Monday if I'm not Ms. right there right. Mr.. Modica and then the main corrective and then the May 17th date is essentially the Monday after the stay at home is left. Is that also correct? Yes. The stay at home goes through the 15th and the Monday would be actually the 18th. Okay. The Monday would be that would be when enforcement would could begin. Okay. So. So, go ahead, Councilwoman. Yes, I absolutely support that. Keeping in mind that we focus on the highly impacted parking areas and being a little bit more flexible with those that are not so highly impacted. And I think that would bring some kind of a balance, too, to this item. Thank you. Mayor. This was hey, I just out on the. I think from a legal standpoint, we're going to be have a very difficult time. As you pointed out, we have very limited the impact areas are defined and we can't just ask the council or staff to start determining which block is going to get a citation and which isn't . So I would from from the seat it would be much more manageable if there was a two week notice period for the city. And then he went back to issuing the citations versus trying to break up neighborhoods by block by block. Thank you. This is Tom. The city staff would agree with that as well, that it would be difficult to really identify what those parking impacted areas would be. We do have a map, but we know that many of you get calls about areas where people believe that they're parking impacted, but they may not actually be according to the definition. Yes. Yes. Thank you for that consultation and it makes complete sense. So in other words, what we're trying to do is. We still. Are quite keen on this place. With. Citations. Well, not really, say patients that have validation or that come with a cost, but actual information where they can go into a meeting. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Come through it there. Yeah, I think. I think there's. Yeah, I think we're, we're, we're getting there. I think that you're you're seeing citations I made keen to get clarity on. That is very important. Yes. Okay. So let me do that. I have I also have two more speakers or three more that have not spoken yet and then everyone else kind of queued up again. And then I'd like to also get clarification on what the actual meant were. The main motion is that I think there's been kind of friendlies, but maybe not official friendlies. And so that way we can we can know we know where we are exactly. So let me keep going through that through the speakers list or American Council. Give the questions. No, no, that's okay. You. Okay. Thank you, Councilmember Superman. Thank you. I appreciate all the input so far. But the fourth district is very unique due to its extremes, so I really can't support the motion at all as made. So for instance, on the eastern half of the fourth district, I agree with Councilwoman Mango. We have the same challenges in terms of leaves. 90815 is the least dense zip code in the city with 5300 people three square mile the western part, the park district is 90804 that is the most yes zip code in the city with 18,200 residents per square mile. So we have tremendous parking impacts on the western half of the district couple that were the parking lot that were suggested by public works. And we had one in our district route library, which I believe we suggested a total of six parking spaces. That's the lowest number and we just don't have the commercial lots available. So it really doesn't work at all for the fourth District to have citations again. And let me say one thing about the warnings, because we've had experiences with this. Unfortunately, the warning citation looks identical to a parking ticket. So what happens to the person, the resident approaching the car gets that sinking feeling in their heart as they approach the car, and you have to study it to see that it's a warning. So if we do go with warnings, I would highly recommend that it looks completely different from a from a parking citation. We've had a lot of pushback on that. So as it stands, I think we couldn't do anything until the stay in order stay at home order is removed. If there's a warning system, I would not want it to look like any type of citation. And I guess the last thing is we would certainly have to have a confirmation that the stay at home order was lifted before we could ever accept, you know, the return of the citations. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember. And next up is customary Ringo tacular in a big screen with everything he said about the plan to get this medication as to how we're going to implement this program. I do like the fact that we are going to have a warning system that at the end of the day, you will say nothing at all. But when we're looking at the fact that we want to warn people, we're re-implementing the street sweeping sentencing program where those control over supervised results are included. Every district should weigh on that is impacted as perhaps is in my district is how you residential what I do have these positive stories that are impacted that may not be the definition as it worked and could. So what I'm thinking about is that on top of that, we're looking at a drug that that I don't really agree with that we're looking at the what we've seen since the fraudulent injury reinstitution that we can control the treatment program. What happens if for some reason and we know what the reason is, obviously we have to extend the stay at home program and it goes down to 15 and we have these impacted neighborhoods. That will continue to be that way. And then the people are going to have to remain with continue to stay home. And here we are again. And then with the reinstitution of the sweeping program, again, I would say a little bit nebulous as to what direction that is going to take. I'm hoping that maybe we can work with some of those councilmembers who have more impacted local runners to identify those areas. So should the. Stay at home, mom continues. Because we are on the 15th, but we are able to work with with our council colleagues, with public works to determine what those levels are so that we can determine whether we should continue to invest in that area or not. And then from there, the other issue that I have with with the warnings, obviously, is the fact that we just went through an equity tool kit resolution this evening. And obviously, language access is going to be a big part of this. And I know it's going to be difficult. But if if the warnings are short enough, I would love to see those warnings put in the three languages that we need, most notably Spanish to garlic and cravats, especially in those areas where we know that those are the holy places, which is basically the six and seven remain are the ones we've had no problem with, of course, where we're getting easier. So that's another. There's a little a little penalty in the in the issue that we got to look at in regards to making sure that everybody gets workable. Celebrity guest set at the same time and everybody is on the same page when it comes to this. So all that my comment, we were looking forward to see if we can work this out. Thank you. And Councilmember Austin. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I think I support the direction that this ends and possibly the motion on the floor. I want to I'm looking at this from a public health lens and the public health issue. And I think there is because we're making changes to to policy and operations in the city in response to COVID 19 . There's a big conclusion that comes with that potentially with many of our residents and seniors are no longer issuing parking tickets and reversing course and going I to require a level of thought and sensitivity in terms of how we kind of get back to normal. So I think the phased approach, you know, the carrot approach to getting us back to some place where, you know, unfortunately parking tickets will be awesome because, you know, that's part of the system. I want to re-emphasize, too, that I don't think that this is and I'm glad that I haven't heard of any of this, but I heard from, you know, some. Social media comment regarding the shooting, wants to get the money for parking tickets and we've had more discussions before. This has less to do with revenue from parking tickets and more to do with public health and our ability to clean our streets. We've been doing a disservice to any neighborhood in the city if we were to say, okay, we're going to ignore stupid things in this particular area of this city versus that particular area of the city, because we would be further exposing population to vulnerabilities of public health that born of ability. So I think know, I do appreciate the thought that's going into the conversation here. I think as far as warnings, I'd like to to be creative and possible with those warnings and stuff. But we've always been innovative and creative. You know, I agree that, you know, just having someone out there issuing tickets looks like standard operating procedure. I'm willing to take something a bit further. And I know we're reclassifying duties of city employees. You know, there may be an opportunity for some to do some some outreach, actual outreach in the communities, particularly in the impacted communities , to provide warning and really check the busses and say, we have done all we can do to ensure that residents are well informed about. That's kind of closing in on these policies again. And then, you know, when I talk about creativity, damage to babies, there's no technology available on our disposal. You know, I think it would be really helpful if I were to get a text message from a similar language to let me know straight people want as well. I've got a 15 minute notice on that. I'm probably going to give some thought to moving my vehicle. I think that's something that should be looked at. I don't know if there's time to do that to implement this, but just something that I know we have data and cell phone data on a lot of our residents. But, you know, it's possible sometimes you know, how to make an emotion as friendly to, I don't know, suggestions. I mean, I was also thinking about the weather forecast because I'm like the major function of states. Would we have to do with, you know, prevention and smoking and other issues that can come from that, having taken in always taking into consideration weather forecast on its own? No, I think we haven't turned the corner. Have we seen the worst of the rains and potential flooding in the city, which is something that we've got to respond to as well. But again, I like the direction this is going in. I think I can support the what is on the floor. I hope that to be a phased in model and phased in approach, not the only one in and then stepping it up. I think that's the best approach to take, but I would love to get some clarification on what's on the table, what's before us as well. My comment is don't take a compliment. And I have just for people that are chewed up for a second time. So I'm going to do I'm going to ask some clarification as well, and then I'll go to the folks for the second round. I mean, go back to the original motion, Councilman Richardson. And so. Great. And so I think you've heard obviously from from everyone. I think that and you've heard from me, I think staff comment especially on kind of the difficulty of doing that, you know, two separate groups. And I think what I've heard is that they would that the enforcement piece word would begin after the fifth third home order is lifted. I think I heard that from almost everyone and would begin on on May 18th, the enforcement piece. But the actual street sweeping kind of slash warning system would begin two weeks before that on me, or for that matter, once again, I think that's where I kind of heard that. Captain Richardson. Yeah, sure. Thanks. So, you know, I think what we have in front of us now are fine. It's clear, simple. We're going to start back street sweeping activities on the fourth. We're going to do warnings for two weeks. And on the 18th, after the stay home order is lifted, we'll be in sexual activity. So that's what the motion is. Also want to make sure that, you know, acknowledge, you know, some great comment and some direction the city staff around the gravity station. I think we should make sure that those are reflected as well. And the other thing that came up a bit earlier, we continue to look for of support, not only quite a lot of, but I think it's a pretty straight forward motion that is reflective of where I think the council is. What I've heard from majority of people where we are right now. Thank you. Can I just add also I want to just also uplift councilor a super I comment that we don't make the the the warning system look exactly like a parking ticket, but there's some deference to that. And then I do like I think councilman asked and if there's there's a I mean it's staff will have to see but if there's an opportunity in putting impacted areas to do some kind of door to door work or some more kind of on the ground warning on top of the warnings that we'll be doing on the on the cars. I think that's great as well. So I like all of that as well. And I think that's a great I think that's a good motion that's on the floor. And you're going to start with those items, right, Governor Richardson? Absolutely. Okay, great. So let me if I can have two questions. Yes. So we I heard two different things and I just wanted to get some clarity. We talked about very specific date to which was May 4th to May 18th, but then we also heard until Safer at home is lifted. And while we all hope that by the time we get close to that March 18th, there's going to be amendments to our safer at home ordinance. It may not be that it's completely lifted. There may be certain types of restrictions, so there might be some changes. And so those are kind of two different concepts. The May 18 or completely changing. I do want to remind us that we are one of the few agencies that actually has a date in our order. And the governor's order is unlimited. It does not have a date. So the governor's order is would be in place. So if I can just get some clarity on that, we can certainly reassess as we get closer to the 18th. I think that I think yeah. I think Governor Christie is at the 18th, correct? Yes. Okay. And I think I want to also just note that obviously as we get closer, there are other changes. So the council can come back and make and make adjustments, obviously. So let's open up. Absolutely. Thank you. I go back to the second round, Councilmember Pierce. Thank you and thank you for clarifying the item as it is of the motion that's on the floor. I wanted to queue up and just look three things. One is I had also mentioned about meters and so I wanted to clarify a request on that would be that we waive the meters during suite three sleeping days and find out if that is something that is doable. So could staff respond to that request? Councilmember Pearce regarding waiving the meters. I don't know how that would work. I think that it would be if this is a direction that this council wants to go, I think it would be better to agenda's that item and talk specifically about when we would waive metered parking. What you find is that most of our parking meters are in commercial areas and they're separate from where we find most of the residential parking impacts. And so I'm not sure how it would provide relief, but I would defer to the city attorney. My guess is we would have two agendas separately. So I guess the areas that I like to diverge. In that. It would have to be a separate agenda item. Okay. And maybe at this point, I mean, we're just a couple of weeks out, I wish I would have thought to agenda that earlier. But really, the thought for me was the fact that Fourth Street is in the middle of a parking impacted area and it's completely vacant. And so I was hoping that during the time that we were trying to get cars to move, that might be an option, but we'll explore that later. The other piece that I wanted to lift up was the language access. What is the protocol for a parking ticket? I mean, I used to get them all the time. It's been a while. Is there language that somebody needs to sound like someone's buying? Thank you. What is on the tickets right now as far as language access? To Councilmember. I think what we would bring forward as your staff is that we would essentially create an informational piece. And so instead of using a ticket warning system, we would use more of a flier that's more of an informational warning system so that those would be placed on the cars. It would talk about the neighborhood parking program. It would talk about street sweeping and and the reasons why we clean our streets for it, for health and safety of our population, and that that we would ensure it was in multiple languages. So that's what I was I was looking for. And then I know everybody's already gone around and I'm. Maybe if I could just. Maybe hear the mayor on this on the citation beginning the day or the day after the stay at home order is lifted. I do not imagine that the day after the stay at home order is lifted that people are not are not going to be home. They're going to be you know, they're going to be waiting for their job to start again. They're going to be waiting for businesses to reopen. So even if we had a week delay. I just. I wanted to propose that. I'm curious what the mayor's thoughts are on it. Yeah. But I think I mean, I think that I think the motion on the floor is is a good reflection of kind of other council comments. I do think that, you know, the only caveat is that as we I think we're going to know a lot more in a week, ten days about our stay at home order day , which, of course, is the same as all 80 cities in the county. So we're all together. I, I could be wrong, but I expect that our stay at home order is going to look different. I will look differently on May the 16th, and it might, you know, and I think that there are going to be changes that are that are on on their way. I don't know exactly what yet, but I think that because we've been because we have been promoting that may stay at home order date. I think it's it's a nice date for this to kind of align with which is the closing of that stay at home order. And then if we've got to change it, we'll be back having a debate or a discussion, I think, in the future. Thank you. I'm going I'm great with the idea as it is. Appreciate it. Thank you. Let me see. I have councilwoman and they asked. Me thinking I can type. Quick question then. I am hoping you will be able to answer that. I am wondering in the days when these street people go, if they wait for. The. Second person, because I'm assuming they can see behind them that they could be a great behind the street sweepers to avoid hitting people with tickets. Who saw the street sweeper passed already like 3 minutes ago. I'm not sure how that works. Is that how that works? Like become ratings in them? So council members in their house? Yes. Typically as a parking enforcement vehicle will follow the sweeper. But if but but there are situations where that enforcement officer is stopped to issue a citation. And the sweeper keeps going. And so sometimes there's there's there's a delay until they get caught up. One of the things that we have really been working on first, we really we did our third sweeping optimization program, you may recall, where we changed the start times in residential neighborhoods. We moved the start times back and that was really at the leadership of the mayor in this council to make it easier for folks to to be able to comply with those time restrictions. So the next phase of this that we've been looking through and we're hopeful that we can implement this year, is that we would be able to shorten those sweeping times, time and and that at that might be addressed that might be able to address what what you're bringing up, which is that instead of a two hour restricted time zone, maybe it's only an hour. Yeah. So especially during this time, maybe see if that's a possibility for, for it to happen during this next coming month. That would be nice of you guys to look at that. And in addition, I know that a lot of people will be dealing with not having jobs and not having the financial means to heal people's tickets . And I don't know if this is the place or if, you know, I have to see this for a different time. But is there a way that we can upgrade to possibly even cutting that place on the ticket, that they get it in half? How much is that right now if you guys know? I don't know that off the top of my head. Thank you, Councilwoman Councilmember Mongo. Oh, I'm sorry. I was waiting for an answer. I'm sorry about that, Mr. Modica, and I'm sorry we had we had a little technical issue there. Can you ask that again, please? Oh, you're kidding me. I didn't hear the question either. Oh. My question was that how much are the tickets right now? And if we could look, we may be cutting the tickets maybe in half or in the next couple of weeks or so once that is implemented, to give the residents a chance to recoup from this crisis financially. So Councilmember currently the streets within circuit is priced at $70 and I believe it would require a change to be tabled to to move forward with what you're suggesting. So at a different time. Yes. You couldn't you could not reduce that. This is Charlie Parker. I'm sorry. You could not reduce the fetus even I believe it requires a public hearing. And then, as Craig mentioned, a change to the fee schedule. Okay. So it would not be possible to do it this evening. Okay. Thank you, Tony. Thank you for that. Thank you, Captain Burger Mungo. Thank you. We will. Be. Putting in some of Lewis letter about this, but the note goes to the warning. Could. Also encourage them to clean the gutter running or parked at the time. Potentially that could discourage them from not building their car if they're able in the future. I mean, as I mentioned. The health and safety of our community is at stake. And we have already started to see mosquitoes here in the side and will continue to watch their herds and encourage people to disperse is when the sprinkler masters into the gutters and then the and with leaves and debris from all of the overgrown trees in the south destroying the water pools and it pools quickly and so perhaps that could be identified in the warning along with. If you or a local organization you belong to has the energy and resources to get out and take some dust pans and clean the gutters in your neighborhood, we strongly encourage it or something because the clean water is just a big problem. So I'm supportive of the motion on the floor. I'm just hoping for additional language in the warning that tells people. Okay. If you're going to park here and you can't leave your car, consider that you're maybe parked in front of someone who is unable to clean up their gutter. And then in talking with Mr. Modica, the clean teams are already very lean because they're stretched as bent on so many other things. But I think we really need to be honest with ourselves that May 12th or whatever the first day, when we go back to street sweepers, we're going to have significant delays due to. Multiple. Dumps from the excess debris that has been building up. And so I just want us to be prepared for that and make sure that Mr. Medico has a plan in place to address and make sure that everyone gets swept and that not large areas are just avoided because of the massive pile up. And if they are avoided, a clean team or other source is deployed pretty quickly. And if it needs to be Boy Scouts or neighborhood groups, we're happy to help coordinate that different neighborhoods. But we need at least a notification so that they're happy to go out and help. The Council member will work on an education piece as well. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilmember Superar. Thank you. I think I've got a lot of questions answered that we have multiple languages now going on on Wired and I realize that we can't lower the price of the citation. The other kind of conundrum we have here is that we have fires being distributed during a stay at home order. That seems counterintuitive, but I guess we could solve both if we gave another week's question. Probably don't have the support for that right now, but if you waited a week till after the stay at home order was lifted, you could get fliers distributed during that time and also maybe lighten the load because the $70 tickets will have a tremendous impact in parts of my district. And I think that's what Mary Sun House was alluding to in that I support the motion. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember. That concludes the comments. Madam Clerk, welcome. District one, District two. High Court. District three. I. District four. I. District five. By District six. High District seven. By. District eight. District nine. High motion carries. Okay. Thank you very much. I'm going to go ahead. And unless there's any new business from anyone, if I don't see anyone coming out for any new business or announcements. That concludes our agenda for for this evening. And I want to thank everyone for joining us.