Recommendation to Authorize the Purchase of 35 Vehicles, Consistent with the Revised Vehicle Replacement Policy, in an Amount Not to Exceed $1,311,421 from Folsom Lake Ford, $281,666 from Winner Chevrolet, and $126,645 from Freeway Toyota, Including Contingency. (Public Works 703)
Our recommendation to authorize the purchase of 35 vehicles consistent with the revised vehicle replacement policy in an amount not to exceed 1.311421 billion from Ford. Folsom. Ford Lake Ford 281,606 from Winter Chevrolet and 160 645 from Rebate Chairman. And our speaker is Pat Potter. This part of the year. I'm speaking on behalf of CASA and the Climate Action Plan, and I just really wanted to understand why public works is buying hybrid cars instead of electric and also what kind of engine is going into the Colorado pick trucks? Because I guess there's three choices, one of which is a diesel. And I don't know. But anyway, the big question, I mean, there's so many of these cars that you're buying. Why aren't they electric? Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I was our only speaker. Okay. So can we have a brief staff report on this item? Hello. Hello. Good morning, Madam Mayor. City Council. My name is Forest Heidrich. Publicly opposed to the microphone, if you would. A little better there. A little better. Wonderful. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have on the staff report. So I was ready to pull this staff report just because I was really excited that we are buying hybrid vehicles for police and public works. And I understand the question we just had of why aren't they just straight EVs? Do you want to you want to address that? Yes, absolutely. So, yes, we are very excited as well to provide hybrid vehicles to our PD, to our fire staff. And the reason why we are not purchasing all EVs comes back to the question of the infrastructure that's needed to charge said vehicles, to charge said vehicles. We have implemented EV charging out at City Hall West. We do have EVs planned for replacement where those hubs are located. And obviously our concern is for the success of those vehicles. So we want to go to the next best option, which is the hybrid platform. But then does that imply that as we move toward adding even more EV charging infrastructure, we will be looking to make more of the fleet all electric? Yes, absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions? Comments? Vice Mayor. Can I I'm just curious, when during the budget, when we talked about vehicles, etc., we talked about not just replacing 1 to 1. And it wasn't clear to me in the staff report if this is just a, hey, we've got a car that meets replacement, therefore let's just replace it. How, how did how did that part of the discussion about reducing the size of our fleet play into that General? That's a great question. So one of the takeaways from the budgetary meeting was for staff to review the current replacement step, not staff report administration bulletin. And so we did call out some of those minimum requirements for vehicles to be replaced. All of the vehicles that we have cited on this list meet those replacement requirements and are in what we would consider to be maximum use or critical job tasks throughout the city. Okay. Thank you. And then I guess the other question I have. I did notice that the the Chevy Colorados and the Toyota RAV4 are about the same cost. Given that Toyota is involved in fighting the car at the state of California's emission standards, have we considered whether or not we might want to go with somebody who is committed to our climate goals as opposed to was supporting multinationals who are pushing against it? Another great question. We selected that vehicle based on feedback from staff that day that the pickup truck in some cases was not working for them. We wanted to go to a small SUV that still offered them some cargo space and also had ground clearance in the event that they're used in disaster relief. But yeah, there are options out there. What if we were to ask to have that looked at, if there was a way to get something for the same cost that met the need but was with a more committed company, would that be problematic? Look at this. You have the option that you could approve this item with holding back on approval of certain vehicles. Okay. But you would need to just state what those vehicles were. Understood. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Those are my questions for now. Okay. Any other Ken Brody? Just a quick question. So if we do have a long term plan to move to, say, an all electronic fleet, I mean, do we have or will that include some type of backup, like some cities lost power for two or three days. So I can't imagine that you don't want your police force dying in day one vehicle wise. Right. So, I don't know. We have set up a plan to do that. Or is that will that be taken care of or. Another great question. So looking at our fleet, as always, has a mixed fleet and not 100% EV, but always looking at how we can reduce greenhouse gases, whether that being from implementation of hybrids, driver monitoring, meaning we're not going to have these vehicles idling, shutting down when possible, but also looking at where we're implementing these EV charging hubs. Case in point, back to City Hall West, we have emergency generators at that location. So therefore, those chargers would still be online and we would be able to charge the fleet. And that's why that infrastructure part of that question is so important. I'm just more worried about, you know, a long term power shutdown because we were spared this time. But, you know, who knows what will happen next time? Absolutely. And the quick answer is that that's why you always want to have a mixed fleet available. You definitely want to have the EVs there. You definitely want to implement those wherever possible that you never want to be solely reliant on electric vehicles. Okay. So hopefully building that infrastructure and some redundancy would be something that's brought back and feature, you know, capital budgets that we can make. Definitely particularly. In. Thank you. And I would just comment along those lines that even people who are driving gasoline powered vehicles found that the gas pumps didn't work because they relied on electricity for the pumps. But if the city were to say to go toward solar power on all of its buildings and then storing that electricity, that's that's certainly a backup for power. And there's other I do drive an TV. And during all the days when PGE was doing Power Shutoffs, a message would come up on the the screen reminding us to fold to your to recharge to your full capacity every night. So, I mean, who knows what the future holds? But I think, you know, part of the policy of getting away from fuel fossil fuel vehicles is trying to help reduce some of the complications that we've seen are causing these fires, the new normal. Okay, good points, everyone. Are we ready for a motion? Um, to approve this. So what we're looking at is this is a recommendation to do you know what it is, you read it. But anyway, the, the recommendation is that we authorize the purchase of 35 vehicles consistent with the revised vehicle replacement policy in the specified amount. The move. And Vice Mayor, did you want to add. Me after Tony has moved? I'll second the motion. We had a motion. A second. Okay. All in favor? Oh, yes. I just wanted a comment for comments related to Miss Potter's comments. I did want to thank staff. The climate section of this staff report was very explicit about the fact that these vehicles will cut in half the the emissions that will be brought by these vehicles. It's not 100%, but I actually just want to thank staff for that. That was a very good use of that section and helpful. So thank you very much. Thank you. It's a good point. It was a it was a very informative report. Thank you. All the comments. Okay. We've got a motion. We've got a second. All in favor. Hi. That was Five Eyes. Right. Okay. That motion passes unanimously.