A resolution approving a proposed on-call engineering Agreement for Campus Placemaking Services at the National Western Center between the City and County of Denver and Moore Iacofano Goltsman, Incorporated. Approves a two-year, $5 million on-call contract with Moore Iacofano Goltsman, Inc. for campus design standards and guidelines, facilities program refinement, a campus public realm study for design, and construction procurements for the development of the National Western Center Campus (201735049). The last regularly scheduled Council meeting within the 30-day review period is on 6-26-17. The Committee approved filing this resolution by consent on 5-30-17.
So as you just said in your explanation that this is a $1.1 billion project, that ch2m Hills is is programing. So are they actually is so is that actually the total cost relative to the project actually diminished because they're actually doing program management for the entirety of the project, even though they're the $14 million was only based on the first. So so the. So two parts there, Councilman. One, it would be it would make no sense. Even though we're focused on phases one or two and it's an eight phase project, we have to think about all eight phases because things that we're going to do in the early phases ultimately either allow us to get to future phases sooner or certainly have an impact on future phases. So we always have to think about the campus as a whole, which is another reason why you have a program management team always thinking about the larger aspects are impacts on the overall program as we break the project into individual project components. So we're going to, you know, one of their roles or the collective role of the National Western Office is to think about the whole campus and the planning. So the design standards and guidelines, the ride away, the infrastructure that ultimately feeds the campus, all those things have to be thinking thought about as a whole and not just the individual parts, because if you only thought about them as the individual parts and started at the project level first and work back to the program, we could find errors that we missed in thinking about things the overall campus might need. So again, this is an approach that we we thought long and hard about and one that we've we've always thought about it from the campus first. And we're putting in place more and more detail so that when we do go to a project level, we are then managing the appropriate levels of risk as opposed to trying to do it the other way around. Okay. Mostly I was concerned about. Does that mean then that that somebody would come by come back in later years asking for the balance of the program management for for for projects that aren't essentially in phase one or are they in fact, programing phases one, two and beyond. So the so again, remember, the 14 million that you keep referring to is a maximum amount. That doesn't mean we're going to spend all 14 million. That is our best guess as to what we think it's going to take could take to fulfill the objectives of of the program. Certainly, you know, the time frame and I remember it's three years, Steph, three years for the program management and it's for predominantly over phases one or two. But I could argue we're actually leveraging the the investment that they're making in the time they're there. They're putting into this because we are thinking about the full program and not just those first two phases as well. You know, the reason why that all that matters in recognizing there's a maximum is this could be a sub consultant to coach to m through their contract. Not necessarily direct they know they couldn't. I don't. Sorry. I was reacting to your teammates that were saying that that couldn't be the case. So what's the question? So it just again, I would rather us my concerns then and as they are now, is is is making huge allocations for four unknowns. So so but I can I mean, again, I've been doing this a long time. And the decisions we're going to make as a team and that and the work that the team collective team is doing over the next, let's say 12, 18, 24 months ultimately affect the whole campus. So the fact that we are bringing in the best and brightest, I think, in terms of helping us think through this is. Maybe I didn't say that right in that I'm not concerned about the work product that's going to be generated, actually expected to be superb and world class and in precedent setting. I wouldn't expect anything less out of you and your staff and your team and the resources that are are being allocated to this. It is more of a of a fiscal responsibility. These are large sums of money. And where this comes from is, is I, I represent a district that is ten times the size of the 250 acres. That is the structure. And I would love to have design guidelines and standards in at least targeted areas of my district, which require the city to allocate funds to that endeavor. And since to 2012, my taxpayers in my district have been paying loads and loads, millions and millions and millions of dollars to the city expecting those sort of services, and they have not received them in any great detail. And so here you are receiving these sorts of funds through a taxpayer, my taxpayers approved bond request, I mean, a tax ballot initiative. And so the expectation is, is that we are in fact, my concerns are that it's trying to find out and give them some assurance that the this is the most fiscally responsible way that you guys are, in fact, doing that in a fiscally responsible way, because these are very large sums of money that pay for very good consultants that I'm sure my own constituents would love to have addressing their own physical built environment concerns in the district, which has not happened. So I can only speak to the project for which I'm in charge, and I can say in the strongest way that I absolutely believe we are being fiscally responsible. And ultimately the decisions that our collective team will make will deliver the project on time and on budget. And hopefully what you're going to see later this year is a schedule that moves faster and is really smart about how we deliver a very complicated program. So I'm I'm standing here before council telling you I feel very good about the decisions we've made. It's been done in a competitive procurement process. We've seen some great firms and we're standing before you today as a result of that. One of those processes bringing forward this this professional service provider to help us move to the next stage. Wonderful. Thank you very much. Thank you, Councilman Espinosa. Councilwoman Ortega. Thank you, Mr. President. Kelly, can you tell us if you're still looking at a P3 partner to accelerate the build out of the the overall vision? Sure. So the short answer is, is yes, because again, the work we're doing now predominantly focuses on phases one and two, although that impacts 80% of the project. You know, the focus really is between and I wish we had a map here, but between the Burlington Northern, which is divides the space all the way to the river , that's where these first three facilities have to be built as a result of the time frame we're under because of the state RTA money. But to fulfill the future phases, which is phase three through eight, we are exploring a wide range of other funding options and certainly one of those that we're exploring is a public private partnership that that will have to go through its own level of due diligence and scrutiny as we get there. But we have certainly been active in engaging folks that do that sort of work and we'll we'll look at it in due course, but it's one of many possible future strategies we use to complete the campus. So I'm assuming if there is something moving in that along those lines, that would be part of that schedule that we would be seeing later on. Absolutely. And, you know, and there's a bigger effort afoot, obviously, within the city where we would be one of many possible projects looking at those sorts of arrangements where there's got to be a structure put in place that all city projects that might explore, that would would go through some evaluation. And we would just we would have to marry up and go through that of. I was like any other project. Can you tell me if the project in general is expected to be a design build? Don't know yet. I mean, we are. So I want to share with you. I mean, I've you know, I presented I've presented on this in front of industry probably a half dozen times over the last year. And one of the things that that I've said and our team has said is, you know, again, with a program like this, it's so complex, we have to actively engage industry to help us think through different procurement ideas, design, build. Being one of many. And then the interesting thing about this program is there's certainly a variety of procurement strategies that may make sense. And my hope would be is that we align the right procurement strategy with the right project at the right time. So we're we're actively talking to industry. We're going to continue to do that. Our team is right now thinking through a preferred procurement approach or approaches for these early phases, which include both infrastructure and ultimately vertical development . We will reengage industry again before we actually settle on a strategy because we want to make sure that industry is comfortable with the approach that it makes sense. How is it aligned with, you know, attracting businesses small, medium and large to a program like this? But we haven't we have not yet settled on an approach or any approach for any of the program at this point and are going through that process now. So can we talk about jobs for just a second? You betcha. I know you all have hired some folks to help begin to look at that. And I'm not sure that you all are planning to put some dollars into apprenticeships with the kind of construction that's going on in our city today. I know every big project is dying for a trained workforce, making sure that they've got the best folks on their team to help build out what they have envisioned for their location. And I also know that Seedat will be making an announcement this week in terms of what that structure is going to look like for rolling out the apprenticeship jobs that they will have as part of the I-70 project. So can you just speak to a commitment to apprenticeships and to both construction and non construction jobs that will be part of national Western? Sure. So, you know, we have, as you know, councilwoman, and it's been something that I've certainly personally been passionate about, is how do you leverage projects like this to to do some pretty incredible things. And, you know, Colorado is in a unique place. Denver is in a unique place in leveraging projects like National Western to build the next generation of of skilled workers for our city. So we have two people on our team that are that are specifically working on that one from stage two and then one that is part of the DCC shared resources with NewCo and one that's really focused at a neighborhood level and one that's thinking about it from the business side. But the long and short of it is, is we're going to lay out a workforce development plan as part of the National Western Center. That's going to include collaboration with projects like Sea Dots, I-70 Project and others. And how do we align forces and leverage resources to bring workers on? And absolutely, I think apprenticeships have to be part of the mix for us to to provide a range of opportunities for folks to find the right place to enter and then ultimately get the training they need and then move on to projects and helping us deliver those projects. So I can guarantee you that apprenticeships are going to absolutely be a part of that effort. Thank you. I have no further questions. Thank you, Councilwoman Ortega. Councilman new you're up. Kelly, you just wanted to say you get a lot of questions. Were so proud of what was going on out there. You know, it's going to be one of the greatest assets we have and and really gives the public an opportunity to hear you talk a little bit more about what's going on out there and the progress that you're making. Just one question. I had one of the issues that you talked to us a good bit about land acquisition and getting the properties there. How's that going? And, and, and what's the update on it? So, you know, I knew someone was going to ask me about land, so I called my land person. But I will tell you that, you know, again, there are 38 private parcels that have to be acquired as part of this effort. As of this last week, we now have 28 of those, 38 under some level of control, which is about 74% completion. Again, my goal was we started last April, so April of 16, which is when we issued the first two seed money for our per, our project, our program. My goal was to have be at 50% by April. So here we sit in June and we're at 74%. So we're a bit ahead of schedule in terms of where we need to be. We just had a property come under our control here, this in the last week or so. That's at the north end of the campus, which is the largest land component to help us build the equestrian center. So we are in in a really good place with we still have some tough ones ahead of us. But I'm feeling with each passing day really confident that we're going to have the land we need assembled well in advance of when we need it to start demolition and then ultimately improvements on the site. That's great. Nice for you and what your team is doing. Appreciate it. Thank you. And thank you for your continued support. Thank you, Councilman and Councilman Snow, you're up. But I'm have Councilwoman Sussman go because she hasn't had the opportunity to speak. Is that okay? Yes, absolutely. Got some assessment group. I just want to. Echo councilman news thoughts about what a great job that's happening there. Also to let them let folks know that you do quarterly reports, land use, transportation infrastructure which are televised and can't remember the next date. You're coming up here this month. I think it's the 27th Council. Something something close by. So people that do want to get all the straight skinny about the Western Center. Can tune in to Ludi on Tuesdays at 1030. Well, and if I can, I mean, obviously, I'm the one that usually gets to stand before you and for questions like this. But there's a team of people that in our combination of city employees and. Attracted employees to help us get this done. And I couldn't be more proud of the team we have and I would stack this team up against anyone in terms of the work they're doing, the commitment to the project and helping. And it's not just about the project. We constantly talk about the importance of making sure that we deliver on our promise for the adjoining neighborhoods Globeville area, Swansea and everyone is committed to figuring out how we leverage this effort to make sure that as we reconnect global interests. Swansea, that there have been a factor as well. All right, Councilman Espinosa, you back up? Yeah. I just wanted to let you know that hearing you say that, you know, there's a dedication or commitment to an apprenticeship program or some sort is music to my ears. And I think before we become the agricultural Mecca, I think we could lead the way. And we're skilled workforce training and development with with the scale of project that we're talking about and the number of project opportunities. I think it would be really, really good for this city to do that. And again, like I said, I think we have the right team to do that. I know we continue to do that. So thank you very much. Well, you know, and I would just you know, on the workforce side, I think one of the interesting things that we have to think about is, you know, if you if you talk to economists, they say we're at full employment. Right. But the reality is, we know that's that's not the case. Right. And I think it's it's moments like this where industry, both public and private, have to come together and reevaluate our traditional approaches to growing our workforce. And is there is there are there new creative ways or are there different ways to think about old ways of doing things that make sense? And I will tell you, I just had a great conversation with folks from AGC, and I think everybody recognizes that not just what's going on in Denver, but in the entire front range is really forcing industry to rethink how we grow, attract and build a workforce. And I'm really excited about about what could be in front of us if we do this right. Thank you. Thank you, Kelly. Thank you, Councilman Espinosa. All right. So that was just for questions. Last comments, that is concludes all the bills that we called out. So we're ready for the black vote. All other bills are introduction to Order published. And Council members. Remember, this is a consent or block block and you will need to vote I. Otherwise, this is your last chance to call out an item for a separate vote. Councilman Cashman. Sir, are you pleased with the resolutions for adoption and the bills on file consideration for final passage on the floor? Mr. President, I move that resolutions be adopted and bills on final consideration be placed upon final consideration, and do pass in the block for the following items. All series of 2017 627 six 539 612 576 2621 622 623 624 631 499 593 610 488 489 494, 91 492 four, 93, four, 94, five, 63, five, 71. And I think that's all of them. Yes, sir. You get them all. It has been moved and seconded. Madam Secretary. Roll call. Black. All right. Espinosa. Hi. Flynn. I. Gilmore. I. Cashman. Hi. Lopez. I knew Ortega, but. Sussman. Mr. President. Hi. Dennis. Thank you. Tonight's resolutions have been adopted and bills have been placed on final consideration and do pass pre recess announcement tonight. There will be a combined required public hearing in Council Bill 435, changing the zoning classification for 4201 40 2003 4211 and 4022 4221 Brighton Boulevard in Elyria, Swansea and Council Bill 436 Changing the zoning classification for 4000 4020 and 4120 Brighton Boulevard in Elyria, Swansea. Anyone wishing to speak on either or both of these matters must be the Council Secretary to receive a speaker card to fill out and return to her during the recess of council. If there are no objections from members of council, it seems like we do not have a lot of speakers. Let's see if we can take a five minute recess. Council members, please be back at 615.