Recommendation to receive and file a report on short-term rentals (STRs); select Option 2 (Limited STRs) for the framework of regulating STRs in Long Beach; direct City Attorney to prepare an ordinance to implement Option 2; and Authorize City Manager, or designee, to enter into voluntary agreement(s) with STR-hosting platforms for the collection and remittance of transient occupancy taxes. (Citywide)
All right. And then we'll go ahead. We're going to go ahead and go back to Esther's item 21. Yes. And we'll do a rock. Councilwoman Gonzales, Councilmember Pierce, Councilwoman Price. Councilmember. Super now here. Councilwoman Mongo. Vice Mayor Andrews. Councilmember your younger. Councilman, Austin. Councilman after Councilmember Richardson. Mayor Garcia. Thank you. I'm here as well. And we are going to go ahead and begin our conversation on stars. So I'm going to start by turning this over to staff. Mr. Mayor, council members, this also is an item that the city council and staff has been working with community groups for quite some time. I'm going to turn this over to our development services director, Linda Tatum, and she'll walk us through our recommendations for you tonight. Good evening, Mayor. Members of the city council staff is pleased to bring forward to you tonight our proposal for addressing the short term rentals in the city. As you as council directed us probably close to a year ago with the 29 housing recommendations, this is one of those recommendations, and we will be coming to you within the next 30 days with a couple of more additional efforts. We've been engaged in at first light to acknowledge the really challenging work of a staff team that was led by Lisa Fall, our administrative services director, supported by Charles Farber, who's in our Housing and Neighborhood Services Bureau, and also the work of our consultant team, Lisa Wise and Associates who are represented by Jen Daughtery as well as Henry Ponte Morelli. I want to just acknowledge that this was a really a challenging task and it was really important that we took the time to get it right. And a part of that was making sure that we listened to the community, that we listened well to all sides of the issue. And I think what you'll find is that the ultimate recommendation that staff will be presenting tonight reflects not only that we heard all sides of the issue, but that we also considered a number of other factors, such as city housing policy. We considered best practices in the industry and what was legally permissible and what made sense in terms of an implementation perspective. So with that, what I'd like to do is to have our consultant, Jane Daughtery, she'll be presenting an overview of the work that the consultant was engaged in. And I'd just like to highlight that it includes a wealth of data. So whether it's tonight at some later time, if you could certainly defer to the report because it does contain a wealth of data about the topic of stars that we won't be covering tonight in detail. But it is a very good resource for you to keep in mind. And also after the consultants presentation, they will be turning it back over to staff so that we can summarize the staff recommendation. So with that, I'll turn it over to Jen. Thank you. Ms.. Tatum Mayor, council members, thank you very much. This presentation, I will go through some high level background information that includes the process, data and community input. Then I'll describe the three short term rental ordinance options in front of you before handing it back to Ms.. Tatum. Our approach for this process was organized into three phases, the first being research and analysis, where we conducted two public workshops. An online survey was completed and we conducted case study research. The second phase, that's the phase we're in today is looking at alternatives. In that phase, we developed preliminary options. We presented them at a public workshop and we prepared a draft analysis included in your packet tonight. The third phase is looking at code amendments and public hearings, and us moving forward with that phase is going to be dependent on the direction we receive from counsel tonight. To understand what's happening with Long Beach short term rentals, we collected publicly available data from short term rental hosting websites, and the data was collected in March of this year. This data found that there are 1532 active listings in the city, and of those, 1328 are actual individual units. While that looks like a lot of dots on the map, that comprises just under 1% of the city's total housing stock. These stars are not distributed evenly across the city. They're primarily concentrated along the coast and in downtown. And the colors represent different websites as TR websites. And the dominant website operating in is Airbnb with about 80% of the listings that's followed by the Expedia owned platforms, HomeAway and VRBO at about 12%. About half of. The listings are single family and about half multifamily. 52% multifamily. 48% single family. Two thirds of those are listings for entire homes and about a third for partial homes. Partial homes meaning that it's a listing for a bedroom or a portion of a home versus the entire unit. About half. About half of those listings are listed at a nightly rate of no more than $100 per night. And about half of those are estimated. Half of the overall listings are estimated to generate no more than $10,000 of revenue per year to the host. Based on the average long term apartment rate in the city, a short term rent and assuming a short term rental average nightly rate of $100 per night, that star would need to be rented an occupancy of about 44% or rented about 13 nights per month to generate more revenue than an average long term rental apartment. In looking at the number of nights per year stars are rented. About half or 654 units are estimated estimated to be rented. For. More than 90 nights per year. The orange dashed line is showing that threshold of the 90 nights per year and on the on the green bars that's identifying of those rentals, which are entire home units. So, for example, on the right hand side, those units that are rented for 180 nights or more are 380. And 140 of those are entire home rentals. Now the majority of hosts, almost 83%, have only one star listed. Just over 10% have two. It's about 93% of all listings are two or fewer short term rentals. Now, this may be overstated as professional operators have begun to list individual host IDs so it isn't appearing as though they have multiple units. Community input has been a substantial part of our process and some consistent themes have emerged through this, through the various outreach efforts and activities we've had. Those themes include positive ones, such as the reliance and supplemental income that staffers provide to hosts and property owners, and that that income is allowing property owners to maintain their property to make improvements to their property that they wouldn't otherwise be able to. And also that guess of short term rental units are supporting local businesses. We also heard negative themes complaints about noise, parties, parking primarily, or especially in coastal areas. We also heard concern about overall lack of enforcement and concerns of staffers impact on the availability and affordability of housing. Considering the community input we received, we began to prepare some preliminary options for for short term rental regulations. We also considered, in addition to that community input the city's current code. We looked at zoning and other provisions of the code, existing conditions in Long Beach and case study research. Now our research look at looks in-depth at four specific jurisdictions, but we looked at dozens of of case studies in California and nationwide to supplement our efforts here. We also also evaluated the California Coastal Commission's position on short term rentals and assessed potential city costs and potential city revenues from regulating short term rentals. The three options that were developed consist of the first being a baseline level regulation as the lowest level of regulation out of the three options. The second is a limited starters option. This adds additional regulation on top of those baseline restrictions. Lastly, an option, the third option and geographic to opt out is proposed that has additional level of restriction on top of one and two. These are the three regular or three options were presented at the last public workshop we had in October, and we provided some additional information to help explain the three options. The first baseline regulations includes registering short term rentals with the city, including the city's registration number in every listing for that TR. Providing a local 24 hour contact. Providing the rules for the str noise where to park and trash recycling egress routes ahead of the guest stays as well as posting those rules within the unit. Property liability insurance of at least a minimum of at least $1 million would be required. And some platforms offer this and that provision of insurance would satisfy this requirement. The payment of transient occupancy tax or TOTTY at the city's established rate of 12%. This is a tax that is paid by the guest, collected by the host or operator and remitted to the city. Also the business license tax, which currently for residential rentals, is about $80 a parcel and about $35 per each unit. And that's on an annual basis. As teachers would be prohibited in deed, restricted affordable housing units and dormitories. And this option also includes a 24 hour hotline. That would be a method to report and address nonemergency complaints. And the city would also offer a prohibited buildings list where staffers or short term rental activity is not allowed by homeowners associations. And C hours could apply a request to the city to include their development, their properties on the permitted buildings list. And the city would not issue STR registrations for those units. And finally, STR registration would be revoked under this option if three violations occurred within a 12 month period. Now, those aren't complaints. Those are violations. So if violations of these established regulations occur three in 12 months, your registration would be revoked and couldn't be renewed for one year. Option two builds upon and further restricts the regulations in option one. Limited staffers would limit staffers to residents of Long Beach. That would be verified through vehicle registration, IDs, utility bills, and it would allow for one primary primary residence. As Esther, now a resident, must occupy the primary residence for at least 275 nights per year. So it's about nine months for that to be qualified as a resident. In addition to the primary residence str a resident would be allowed to have two non primary residence staffers, so those non primary staffers would have no restriction on the number of nights hosted. For parcels that have two or more units, such as a single family home with an adu or a duplex. Only one of those units would be required to be occupied for 275 nights per year, with the other unit having no restrictions on the nights rented. And the city is still the city is coordinating with legal counsel on this resident requirement. And if if it is something continuing to evaluate it, if if it is something that must be removed from these options, the primary residence requirement could be revised to be at the parcel level. Now an additional restriction is included for under the limited staffers options for multifamily developments. And as previously mentioned, you must be a resident in Long Beach under this option to be able to operate in a STR and you could only have up to two non primary residence stars. So to limit the concentration of these non primary staffers in multifamily developments, those staffers are capped at 25% or no more than six in multifamily developments. So for example, this is particularly relevant when there's multiple owners or hosts in one building, but also in the case of, say, a single apartment building owner, that owner would have to be a resident of Long Beach and would be limited to up to two non primary residence staffers. If the apartment building is an eight unit building or larger, those two non primary residence staffers could be located in that building. The limited upstairs option also includes quiet hours of 10 p.m. to 7 a.m., during which outdoor pools and hot tubs could not be used. It limits occupants to two people per bedroom plus two with a maximum of ten people per TR. Large scale events would be prohibited, as would exterior signage. The last option, the geographic opt out adds an additional restriction where Unhosted stars could be prohibited within designated air areas through a petition process and vote of the residents within that area. Now, Unhosted means that the resident would be would not be present during the guest's stay, and this option evolved out of the continuing feedback from certain neighborhoods about the disturbance stars were having in those areas. Now many cities have begun to regulate stars, and we've looked at a number of them and some range from very simple and strict. Like Santa monica, where stars are only allowed if they're hosted, if the host is on on the premise during the rental activity to more lenient but cumbersome like Sacramento where they have different permit requirements for non primary residence stars. There is no standard model for STR regulations that applies universally across all cities. But the options we have presented include elements that have been instituted in different cities. And I think at that point, I'll hand it back to Miss Tatum. Thank you, John. I would like to now just summarize the staff's recommendation. John talked a lot about in detail about option two. That is the option that staff is recommending. We think that it appropriately balances all of the the market that we have here in the city. But in particular, it also addresses specifically issues of community character. Our recommendation was guided by the fact that we clearly want to be able to benefit residents, local residents with the proposal. But we also want to be sure that we're addressing community concerns and mitigating those concerns through appropriate regulation. We're also concerned with making sure that the program includes a cost recovery component. So with that, staff is recommending option to the other direction that we're asking for. The city council is to direct us to enter into agreements with the the hosting platforms and that would enable the city to collect the transit occupancy task tax. And we'd also be asking Council's direction for to direct staff to continue to study the appropriate fee to address the affordable housing issue. We feel that it's important that that is a consideration in this item, but we will need to go back and do studies to determine to determine the appropriate share of the fees that are collected , how much of those fees should go to affordable housing? Because we've also we also need to address cost recovery efforts to cover the costs of implementation of the program. And I would like to highlight a couple of points that we have very intentionally included in the regulations for option two that do address housing and affordable housing. To note that as cars are currently, they are prohibited in any of the city's deed restricted affordable housing units. We also very specifically limited and thought really carefully about the limit that we are proposing in terms of limiting the number of short term rentals per each host. We are also considering the impact to the affordable housing stock when we also very specifically limit the number of units within each multifamily housing project. And again, we are very supportive of including a component of the fees for this effort to go towards affordable housing. But we will be taking a look at what that appropriate share should be, because, again, we have anticipated a share of the cities of these fees going into the current city budget, and we're hoping to hit those targets. And again, with some additional study we will be bringing back to the City Council once if you direct us to prepare the ordinance, we would be bringing back an appropriate analysis of what that affordable housing share should be. So with that, that concludes staff's presentation. And the staff here at this table, as well as our consultant, will be available to answer your specific questions. Thank you. I know there's been a lot of work that's gone into this and a lot of community input. There is a motion on the floor which I know there's going to be some conversation about that that will likely change some. But we're going to take public comment for the makers of the motion so far. 1/2. I am. Before before everyone jumps up, everyone will get a chance to speak. This gentleman in the front is going to be controlling the public comment so we can't have bunching up like that. Guys, we're going to call. So it's one line. Close to the start over on this side. I didn't bring up that. Everyone will get a chance to speak. So please take direction right now and we will get ready for public comment. I'm. Yeah. Well, you can go ahead of me. Thank you. Okay. You can't be doing this. We're okay. Just be a minute. We have a lot of people that make sure we get them in line for public comment. So. Guys, just just just to be very clear, we have two lines going on here. I can't have two lines. I need one line of speakers. And if that's not if people aren't going to fit, they need to take a seat and we will get to you. I need one line. I have multiple lines of people coming up and down this row. So I need about the last third of this in this line. It needs to grab it, take a seat or go to the other section. He's got it, please. And then if I can have you guys just kind of straighten out a little bit, that'd be great. That. Okay. Share of the tension, please. Okay. We're going to go ahead and start. Just America to be recognized. Sure. I counted just in this about 50 people just on this side, and I didn't realize the rest of that was also speaker's line. So there were 50 here and there's probably another 50 there, maybe 30 at 3 minutes each. That's that's exactly 5 hours of public comment. So respect. Respectfully, there has been significant input and community meetings. So, Mr. Mayor, I would move that. We go to we go to 90 seconds. Oh, dear. They're second on that. I'll just say consensus on that if there's consensus. Unless there's any objection. Okay. We will go to we will go to 90 seconds. You can set that clerk at 90 seconds. Okay. Okay. We will. Please, everyone, quiet down. Shush. I want to make sure that everyone that speaks has a chance to be heard. Please begin. Um, Mayor and City Council. My name is Barbara Schweiger. I live in the eighth district. My family and I have enjoyed several short term rentals, but we also live on a block that has two very large homes which are rented out for short terms. The problem is not with people when the host is in the in the house. The problem is. When the entire house is rented out with no owner to supervise. Generally speaking, the visitors are quiet and act like good neighbors. However, there have. Been a number of instances. Where very large part large parties have occurred, where trucks appear with professional caterers, extensive bars, elaborate decorations, loud bands, deejays or other entertainment which disrupt homes and families well beyond the boundaries of the property. And parking can be impacted for several blocks around. We have had big parties. We invite our neighbors and we don't disturb the neighbor beyond our home. We stayed at an Airbnb in Philadelphia, where my husband and I had the largest room on the third floor. However, there was one small. Window and it was. Painted shut and there were no smoke detectors or carbon monoxide detectors in the home. We went out and bought a hammer and chisel to crack the window in case of fire. On another occasion there was a serious leak, which the owner asked us to fix in their dark and scary basement. Based on this, I urge you to license and tax short term rentals. Mandate periodic. Thank you. Thank you very much. It's quick. Okay. Thank you very much. Really need inspection. Next speaker, please. I'm bringing it to court and I live on Locust Avenue. There's an Airbnb right next door to me that's basically a commercial venue. They have weddings, they have deejays, they have live bands. They make the windows rattle in my home. My guide dog shakes at times that she can't even sleep and I can't leave. I'm stuck. Because it's where I live and I can't afford to just move. When I bought the home for retirement. There's another Airbnb that's across the street and down on the same block that I live on, and they do the same thing. I've corresponded with both of them with no results. We call the phone number. That's the non-emergency phone number, and we get no results for hours and hours at a time. I sat on the phone one day for over an hour with no response to the non-emergency number that were supposed to call. And then when we do call him, there's times I can't even leave my home because if I go left, the driveways are blocked with cars that are parked over hanging over him. When I go the other direction, it's the same thing. So I'm stuck in all kinds of positions that no one's helping me get out of. I adore Airbnb. I adore Furbo when they're done right. But when they don't care about people with disabilities to give us workouts out and they don't, they keep us trapped for 8 to 10 hours at a time with loud music DJs and live bands and catered events. Help us out. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please vote. Mr. Mayor and council members. My name is Steve Scott. I've been a resident here in Long Beach in the third district and on the peninsula since I went to Long Beach State in 1966. I've been. Part of. All the code processors since 1970, and I think that's one of the reasons our neighborhood asked me to get involved in this project the second year. I've been through this process in our other home. Six years ago in Jackson, Wyoming, and we had a successful solution to it. All six varied interests from the tourists to the resort operators to the neighborhood, it is operating successfully. So with that reason, I participated in this process. I've solicited the entire peninsula and received responses from virtually everybody. And option whatever option can gain five council votes would be our preference that it would include and respect the right of self-determination like we have enjoyed with some of the other code processors, and that would include the designated area that has the right of that self-determination to include whether we should have hosted in UN hosted homes. But it is hopeful that we can have the right for our own determination. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Yes, my name is Martha Briscoe and I live in the area that the first two speakers spoke of. So I have experienced the large scale events. So I'm wondering how you all will define large scale events. Because my neighbor, who has turned a what had been formerly a residential home next to my retirement home, decided that it was a really great idea to start having weddings, all kinds of parties, all kinds of events, very, very commercial, the parking and all of that sort of thing. So even if even when there have been people there that have only been like 20 people, they can make a lot of noise. And as the former speaker just said, it's really difficult just having code enforcement. We've got to have measures to support neighbors who are being offended and stressed out on a weekly basis with no real hope that there's going to be some kind of disciplinary action that is going to result in real change when so much money is being made hand over fist by these folks that have their have their rental at the expense of the quiet neighbors who don't. So please define large scale events. And also, I didn't understand one of the recommendations where it said that the limitation would be the first home has a oh, I guess I'm out of time somebody ask about to answer about two residences. Thank you very much. Residences plus or and thank. You very much yes thank you very much. We thank you. Next speaker, please. Good evening. My name is Diane and I live in South Division Beat six. Oh, wait, that's something else. I live in the first district. Seven years ago, I. Became an Airbnb host. I marched my little self right down to City Hall and I said, I want regulations, I want to pay tax, I want to be listed. And they said, No, we don't have. Any way to. Do it. Here we are only seven years later and all of this good work is going in. Thank you. Council Members Thank you. City Staff. I think it's absolutely fabulous that I can be legal. I want to also add during the fires that we've experienced over the last several months. In the greater Los Angeles area, over 1600 Airbnb host said, Come to my house for free. Yes, I depend upon this income. But we have opened our hearts and our homes to those who need shelter more than we need our income. Thank you so much. You so much. Next speaker, please. Very much. Marilyn Eisinger. Thank you. Councilmembers. Mayor, I am a super host for Airbnb and like many of the Airbnb hosts, I am a senior citizen woman and supplement my income in order to maintain my house. I rent out two of my bedrooms depending upon how many I have 11 grandchildren, so lots of time. There's other people there. My one comment is I'm very happy that we would be paying room tax. I love the city of Long Beach. I want it to have what it needs. I was very sad when the 2008 crisis sent us to our knees and it's just never really recovered. But I would like to talk about that 12%, 6% of the hotel money for their taxes being used to advertise for the hotels. That will not be done for Airbnb or other short terms, which is fine with me, but I don't think an additional amount of money besides that 6% needs to be taken from us. For for yes. For for low cost housing or housing. We're trying to stay indoors ourselves. I'm just trying to pay my taxes and stay indoors. And so I want you to keep that in mind. Nobody here is getting rich. You know, we're scrubbing our houses down and working very hard to make them presentable and nice. And thank you. Thank you very much. Next speaker. Please. Hi. I'm Kelly Hartwick and I own a triplex with my husband on Bayshore in Belmont Shores, and I've been doing. Airbnb, the RBA, all of that for about ten years. Now. I don't live in Long Beach to accept my job. I needed to be in Orange County. I'm a medical device rep and I had to live in the area I work. So I do not necessarily agree with having a host on property. I live 5 minutes. Away in SEAL Beach. I know my number. All of my tenants are renters, I guess as you want to call them. I have very strict rules about. No parties. No smoking, no pets in my property. Everybody agrees to that. I have better. Success. With short term rentals than I have with long term renters. Thank you. I've just had one long term renter move out and it costs me about $8,000 to have. The apartment refurbished to be able to be occupied again. He didn't. He smoked in it when he wasn't supposed to smoke in it. His pets defecated in it. And I appreciate the ability to have. Short term rentals. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next speaker, please. Name is Drew. I am a homeowner in the fifth district. My wife and I back there, we are super hosts and somebody had mentioned about noise and parking and etc., etc. issues. I'll tell you what, my neighbor on the right have two large barking dogs every morning. They're howling. I don't need an alarm clock. So those are they're my alarm clocks. My neighbors on my left have an extended family that come over every other day partying, have a giant screen TV, outdoors, you know, smoking, etc., etc.. Yet we're paying out the bad guys. So. Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please. Well, that's my husband so I just that add to that. Thank you for the opportunity to speak here. We bought the house back in the 2015 when the price was kind of rising a high. So when we look for a house, we specifically looking for a place that has a back, like has a guest house that where we can host our family and relatives and friends at the same time, we can open to do Airbnb, to bring some income to supplement those, you know, those mortgages. And on top of that, we actually are keen to find our baby who like about six months old when we moved in like now she's four year old Jess if y in a long beach like average for a preschool is about $3,000 a month in average. So that's the income that we bring in for Airbnb. It's from that Airbnb. It's really helping on the preschools and on mortgages, which we opened here in Long Beach. So we would like to give back and we support option one and we would like to use to to have you consider the totty that 12% is a bit high because that put us in a disadvantage compared to our surrounding kids. So if we can lower down a little bit, that will help. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Next week, please. I live in the fourth district and I support option one. The top taxes are, I think, outrageous. It would affect, even though we're not paying it, the people that are coming to stay at our Airbnbs are. So we would have to lower the price of of of the, of what we're renting. And I. We already paid 10.25% taxes in the city. I feel that I support the city wholeheartedly. I love Long Beach. I want to stay here forever. And I again support option one and a lower totty, please. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next speaker. My name is Teresa Morse and I've. Lived in Long Beach for over 40 years and in District nine for over 27. I've been involved with Airbnb for four years and I'm a super host for almost three. I have two listings here in the city and I also have one in Dallas, Texas. I am in favor. Of one with an amendment to the top tax for obvious reasons. We only. Are we are. Currently. Paying 6%. We only need to pay 6%. I don't see anybody. Totally taxing long term rentals. We take. Pride in our. Homes as a host of Airbnb, so we self-regulate. We have welcome letters that do three things. We post them. Onto the portal. We provide them on the door of the Airbnb guest, and we also walk them through all the safety protocols. The security alarms, the monitors. We take care of our property at the time of check in. My neighbors are completely aware that I do Airbnb and they always know when a. Guest is there. They come. From all over the world Singapore, China. Australia, London. They know what country the person is. From and they also know when that person's going to come and when that. Person's going to go. As I said, I've lived there for 27 years. We are like extended family. One of the things. You should know that when you are considering this. Is that. We're only talking about $10,000 a year. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And City Council and special shout out to Susie Third District. Right on the go. My name's Phyllis Mays Lawson, and my husband and I have been doing Airbnb since 4th January 2017. My husband is disabled. When he became disabled in 2012, we needed to check that we were falling behind in all of our and all of our expenses. We had our back house that was rented out to a mother and daughter, and fortunately that didn't work out as well as we had hoped that would. The mother passed away. The daughter stopped paying rent. We lost a lot of income just for that reason. When we went back in to go and do the renovation, we found out that it was torn up there. The door jammed, the windows, everything for long term rentals. It ended up being nothing more than a disaster to us. The Airbnb has been wonderful. We've been able to get hosts families with a lot of families. Laura A lot of kids, a lot of dogs. We live near seventh and PCH. We're able to direct. So all of our guests go to Denny's immediately. They go to Vons. They patronize the local neighborhoods every the the new baby target. So we were able to give back to our we're able to give back to our community and will as continue to put dollars in there. So we definitely want to thank you for your time. Thank you so much. Speaker Hi, Mayor and the council people, I'm Celeste Keith and I'm in district two. I'm doing Airbnb and I love it. And we're no threat to the hotels because the people that stay in my place maybe five or ten times a week, a month, I have people and I'm on a very restricted income. And if I didn't have the money coming in from Airbnb. I'm a senior resident here and it would be a little difficult and I love doing Airbnb. I am a super host and people that come here when one person that came here bought a business and also bought a home here in town, and he told me when he came here he was not looking to go to any hotels, so it would not have been someone they would have lost. And we I think Airbnb provides a lot of things to a lot of people. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next speaker, please. Evening. My name is Mike. Patchett and I live in the third. District. And we've been Airbnb host for the last year and a half and frankly without it, we would have had to moved from the area. I've been a resident at Long Beach in the third District for the last 30 years due to health. Issues are our need to host with Airbnb has saved our our residents and it has afforded us the ability to make upgrades pay local plumbers, pay local craftsmen. Pay the. Our cleaning ladies. And it's brought revenue that never we never would have spent in the city. And the people who come and visit the. The guests are constantly going to the local businesses and. Supporting local businesses in the third district. And for that, I'm really grateful and I would hope that you would consider option one. Thank you. Thanks so much, Nick. Speaker, please. Hello. I'm Elizabeth. Thank you for the opportunity to share my input. I'm in District one. Thank you. And I am proud to be an Airbnb super host. And I'm also a HomeAway Premiere partner. I have. I prefer the freedom of continuing in the system that we've put in place and adhering to the rules and restrictions and guidelines that we have by the platforms. In addition, we also provide guidelines and rules and. Restrictions to. Guests. And in multiple ways. We I list rules and restrictions. On the website as well as in a house manual, and I also post safety rules and restrictions in the home. And I think there's a misconception about the. Type of guests that we host. They're not all partiers. My guests have been absolutely wonderful. They're engineers that work on the bridges. They're medical professionals that are working here in town. They are. Scientists in. Neurosciences that come in for. Conferences. And I give jobs as a as a Airbnb super host. I give jobs to a mom. I give it to a young deaf couple. I give it to a student next door. I give jobs to gardeners, plumbers, contractors, landscapers. And I would like to be able to continue to do that. So I am in favor of the. Least amount of restriction as possible. We're self-regulated. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Hi. My name's Jennifer. I'm in District eight. I'm one of the 890 entire home rental properties. I have been Long Beach residents for 26 years. My sons are grown and out of the house. I am renting the property now as an empty nester, keeping the property and making upgrades and repairs with the money that I'm earning. My hope is that sometime my sons will want to live there and raise their own families in the home they've owned for more than 20 years. I've rented to neighbors on multiple occasions. The families who stay at our property are visiting from all over the world France, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Sweden, Japan, Australia, Canada , Belgium, Scotland and many from our United States. And locals all spend their money in our neighborhoods and attend or compete in local sports arenas, such as the velodrome at Cal State, Dominguez Hills and the Honda Center. They stop in Long Beach before and after their arrival from the airports. They come in for flight training, aerial photography, conventions, etc. My property is best suited for multigenerational families enjoyed by young and old. I have an extremely large house, extremely large property, and I am one of those people that had a wedding in my backyard. It was beautiful, it was very small, was 50 guests and it was quiet, it was intimate, and there was no no problem. I don't want to lose long term renters because I occasionally love to stay in my own home and have our own special events there. I have student recitals. I teach music. I also don't want to sell my property. Allow me to continue with the least amount of regulation as possible. I fully support option one. I'd like to thank Lisa Weiss, Count Consulting for the extensive research that she did funded by the city of Long Beach, which showed overwhelming support of option one. Thank you so much. Next speaker, please. Hi, my name is Veronica. I am in District five and I just want to let you know that Stacy Mango put out a poll and I just looked at it about 25 seconds ago and option one had 50% of the vote, option two had eight, option three had 16% and other had 20%. I also have I took 27 of the rentals and decided to do a little calculation. So these 27 rentals came to 65, 65 a day, and the income for 90 days would be 590,000, but the 12% tax would be 70,000. So I doubled it to 180. The 12% in tax would be 140,000. This is all about money. It's about money for people who need it. It's about money for those for the homeless. In this in this district, you would make a ton of money by doing option one. And one more thing. When I hosted my last guests, they their severely retarded daughter had a fall. And we allowed them to stay for five days for free because they needed to take care of her. And I just don't think hotels would do that. Thank you. Oh, thank you. So I pay 15% tax. Thank you. Next speaker. Please. Hello. My name is Anna Evans. Goldstein and I'm a researcher with Unite Here Local. 11. I want to encourage the inclusion of two key provisions. The first provision is. Platform accountability, and the. Second is primary residence hosting. We've entered into the record a memo delineating these provisions. In detail for you to reference. These two provisions have proven to be the most effective way of regulating the short term rental market. They are necessary to protect the future of Long Beach housing. Market and stave off a. Housing crisis that has seen the city lose valuable rental units for families to short term rentals. If these provisions are. Not included tonight, as you move forward, we urge you to postpone tonight's. Vote. This is such an. Important issue and it. Really must be handled with care for. The future of Long Beach. The platform. Accountability provision allows the City of Long Beach to request necessary data. From hosting platforms in order to bring short term rental units into compliance with the law. Platform accountability helps relieve the burden of enforcement from the staff. Of Long Beach and onto the platforms. The primary residence provision is necessary. To protect the city's housing stock, as it stipulates. That there can only be one short term rental unit per host. These provisions have been successful in other cities. And Long Beach has the opportunity to be a leader not just for the region. But the nation, in regulating short term rentals. I strongly urge you to include these provisions in Long Beach, a short term rental ordinance. Thank you. So much. And protect the interests. Of the city. Of life. Thank you so much. Next week, release. My name is Steve Askin. I want to thank my council, Jeanine Pearce, for her very thoughtful approach to short term rentals. I am an Airbnb host and I'm here to suggest some small fixes to option two to meet everybody's interests, to support tenants worried about gentrification, to help homeowners, angry about party houses for small home based hosts like myself, or try to cover our mortgages. And for my fellow trade unionists I see back there with whom I've walked picket lines at the Westin and other hotels. So I'm recommending option two with three clarifications. One, the previous speaker talked about limit short term rentals. Two hosts living on the property. This makes the short term rental a source of income for the resident, for the owner, and it will almost entirely eliminate the annoyance from Unhosted party houses. Number two. And I've heard what people say about taxes. Personally, I'm willing to pay. The appropriate tax if it goes for what's needed. And what I would suggest, since a 6% portion of the. Tax now goes for hotel promotion. Let's instead have half of the 12% the part that now goes to the hotel industry go to help the homeless or do something else for a housing crisis. Number three, and this is important for a short term, hosts make it clear that there will be no days rented restriction on resident hosts . Those restrictions would be a disaster for those of us who cover living costs and cover our mortgages by hosting thank you property where we live. Thank you so much. Okay. And I have a longer copy of this. Perfect. We'll grab it at the clerk's office next speaker, please. My name is Kathleen Brady and I cannot see the clock. That is the clock not up there. So someone sitting. There. And. We have a recent state mandate requiring allowance of more adus even in areas zoned for single family residences instead of providing additional long term homes for us. I'm afraid they will be utilized to short term rentals and we would have the higher density without the intended benefits. The same could be said of the new land use element in certain neighborhoods in Long Beach. The housing crisis is real, it's serious, and a permissive ordinance about stars will make it worse. I would like to ask for option three, but I. I've been thinking seriously about it the last few days after I sent out a few emails, and I would like to add that I think there should only be two stickers per resident, one of which would be primary decrease the number and percentage of allowed short term units in multifamily buildings and prohibit accessory and use accessory dwelling units from being used for short term rental occupancy. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next speaker, please. Thank you. My name is Jean Young, and I live in Al Austin's district. I've been there for 30 years and I'm a super host. I'm asking you, council member, Austin, all this city council and mayor to allow short term rentals as a permitted use. I'm thrilled this is coming before the council and I. Would urge you to support. Opting option one. I know there are representatives of the hotel industry who would have you believe that their jobs are threatened by home sharing. That is not the case. We provide an affordable travel experience to many who could. Not manage the expense of a hotel, stay or want the special care. And guidance provided by an Airbnb. Host. I also hire local people to help me clean my property, paying them the exact cleaning fee than I obtained from a guest. I believe that if effectively managed, short term rentals can provide homeowners an additional opportunity for income to hold on to their residences and invest in upkeep, which supports neighborhood stability and vitality. So it helps seniors stay in their property and millennials get into a property. I do not. Want to see a restriction on the number of days we can host or different rules for home sharing while in the home. Then when short term renting an entire house, this restricts those who must travel for business or retirees who travel for pleasure from renting out their entire house. So that flexibility to take contract jobs in other parts of the country or invite family is the beauty of Airbnb. Thank you so. Much. Do not restrict. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Good evening, council members and Mayor. My name is Brant and I'm here to support option one. My mother has loved the Belmont Shore area since 1969. Every summer she would take our family to play in the sun and water of Alamitos Bay. In 1979, her dream came true and my parents purchased a duplex and Bill mature. In 1984, they purchased another home in Belmont Shore, where we my family lived for many years. CSU will be alumni in 2014. At the age of 77, my mother came down with dementia as the illness progressed. My father had a harder and harder time taking care of his beloved bride of 61 years. In late 2016, we had to move. My mother into a. Home for dementia care at the cost of $7,000 a month. My wife and I soon came up with an idea on how to afford this daunting $7,000 a month bill. Our plan was to make the bottom unit a short term rental. We could make the extra income, but still have the bottom unit available for our family to visit. So we talked to our neighbors in Belmont Shore, as well as our long term tenant of ten years upstairs. All had no issue with the short term rental and were very glad we could take such good care of my mother and all have my cell phone number. In November 2016, we cleared up our family duplex. We also paid for a wheelchair bound neighbors tree to be pruned, and we cleaned up her yard as well. With the extra income, the downstairs short term rental plus income from the upstairs long term rental. My father's income shortfall dissipated. He now visits his beloved wife of 63 years daily while my mother, well, my wife and I take care of our family's duplex in Belmont Shore. Thank you. Thank you so much. The speaker, please. Hello. My name is Olga. I live in Belmont Shore. A solution to the noise because we're all here for solutions is that those Airbnb hosts should all purchased a noise monitor. And this will appease all those who are concerned about noise violation noise monitor. You can check it on your phone and everybody's in check. And also every city has a noise ordinance. Simply call the police for current noise problems. Airbnb takes away less than 1% of the housing that we're currently talking about. Lack of housing. I feel I'm forced towards long term rental. This is a horrible thought, especially when we had a very bad experience with long term tenants. Where are my rights to do what I please with my property? I pay thousands upon thousands of dollars in taxpayer dollars for in our experience, long term tenants were long term problems. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Please. Yes. Hello. Stewart and I live in the First District and my concern is a little bit different than most of what you've heard. I believe in the stability of neighborhoods and communities so that children grow up going to schools with the same people all the time, that they aren't living in a neighborhood that sometimes has a lot of people there. And other times everybody just disappears when it's away from holidays and things like that. So I think these are important kinds of values to keep for our neighborhoods. And I think that if if there's only about 1% of the units in the city are being be well, let's just freeze it at that number . Don't let anybody else start adding new ones here. I'd be one thing and I would take care of that. Second thing is, do keep the 12% tax rate. We make it 18% and use that extra money to provide more for our schools, more for our housing. That's affordable, more help to our people who have to enforce the rules to do it. BND If there's going to be rules, it should be like Prop two. Option to here and then take and do it so and get someone in there to keep it going. So that's what I think. And I live here and I'm buying a very good place. I live in a good building in the Walker building and and we do not have been busier and we don't want them there, by the way, because we don't think that builds a strong, healthy community of people who know each other, who care about each other, and who prevent our neighborhoods from deteriorating. Thank you. Thanks so much. Speaker, please. My name is Nader. Tushnet, and I live in the third district. My concern is about the declining number of the housing stock as we have a great housing crisis before us in our city, which I see every day on my walk. I think there are ways to deal with it without getting in the way of property. Owners who want to have. Airbnb or vacation rental by owner. Which I've used around the world without getting in their. Way. The first is to make the site. Accountable and and find the site. The platform vacation rental by owner or Airbnb for any misdeeds. The second is, in fact, to make sure that it. Is only in primary. Residences. So I would favor option two, though, a little bit stronger. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next speaker, please. Good evening, Mayor. My name is Brad Michaels and counsel. I'm living in the third district and I wanted to give you some feedback. What I'd like to say is we're actually kind of out of the box. I support option zero and here's my thoughts. And I know that if you're going to play ball, it's going to be wasting our time. But, you know, we come from the United States of America where there's liberty. And I'd like to push back on some government regulation now. And the because I think we're highly, highly overregulated right now. Also, what is the big fervor about stars? I'd just like to think out of the box. I've had some long term renters. Where I live. Beside that have been worse partiers than I'd heard on some of these stories here that I've heard of the nightmare stories of short term rentals. Thirdly, when my wife and I took over our property in Belmont Shore, we had two drug pushers that were growing pots in our in the house that we purchased and. Selling it on the street. And we finally. Kicked them out. After $10,000 of attorney fees, our neighbors thanked us for turning our house around. Thank you. Thank you so much. Wow. How do I follow that? Okay. Good evening. Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Linda. I'm a resident taxpayer of Second District. Many years ago, I was working as a traveling sales representative. And at that time, my company was giving me a stipend of $60 a night for overnight travel for a hotel. So you can imagine the type of hotels I might be able to afford. That was when I discovered Airbnb. I was able to find shelter in a safe, secure, affordable, clean home with awesome hosts. That was over eight years ago, and I've been part of the home sharing community ever since. My decision to become an Airbnb host started when my husband was laid off on my birthday, no less. And I a week later, the fear of losing our home in the city we've come to love was overwhelming. The Airbnb platform helped us through some very difficult times. Please don't lose that in this conversation that people are really using this as a forum to survive. Okay. And please remember that the sharing community cards, Lyft, Uber, Airbnb, all of that started because of a need, a need to find affordable ways to get around and an affordable way to travel. We met amazing people, a couple in their son from Kazakhstan who won the visa lottery and a couple from New York who needed who needed to find a home. And they now live here in Long Beach on First Street and our loyal customers. Thank you so much. I really prefer no regulations, but if I could just number one. Thank you so much. Next speaker, please. Hi, I'm Diana Wynne and I live downtown Long Beach. What got me into hosting was that I. I love to travel. And so I traveled all over abroad. And I didn't know what Airbnb was. And and so when I did, I started looking into it and it gave me options to giving up my family options of of where we can stay. And once when I got into it, I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is so much better than a hotel. And so I got myself into hosting here at my kind of Long Beach, and the experience I have has been phenomenal. You know, they I have so far zero complaints. And the platform. Allows you to. Actually rate. Each other, not just rate me, but rate them. And so if you're able to look at them and say, hey. You know, they have bad reviews, whatever, but I hadn't had one that had a bad review. So I've allowed each one to stay in my home. I'm also, in a way, board member. And to me, the complaints that I have is actually for the more of the long term renters. And to say that it's it's. Just the short term rentals. That's making noise. I think that's unfair because, you know, we were surrounded by great universities, colleges, and we've all been. There, right. We partied. And so just to say that it's just for the short term, it's not right to say so it could be any of those factors, not just, you know, people that are trying to, you know, give options, working. Options, but if we. Have Airbnb. So thanks so much. My name is Josh Butler, executive director of Housing Long Beach, a resident of the third district. And I am a super renter. There are so many unintended consequences with this. It feels like this policy at this point is half baked and there's more work to do. One for sure is, is what is the fare going to be and where is the money going to go? It doesn't make sense to me to come back and circle around and have that conversation. That should be included as part of this conversation right now. And that money should go to affordable housing. And I think that the hosts are lucky that it's only a minimum of 12%. We're in a housing crisis. We do not have enough affordable housing as is we do not have places for our current renters to be right now. And it's very discouraging that so many host have come up here and decided, rather than to speak about the positives of being a host, have chosen to disparage longtime Long Beach renters in the process of this. There are a lot of rules and regulations out there right now. I'm wondering how it's going to be monitored. Is it going to be done by current staff? Do we have the funding to do that? How many calls for service to the police department will go out? And is any of the funding going to support the police department? I think there's a lot of questions that still remain to be answered. All these hosts have come up here. It sounds like they're struggling to. Many of them have suggested that without the ability to rent out their second home, that they would be underwater. And so I think that we may have a larger problem if so many of our homeowner population are struggling to make ends meet. We might want to look a little bit deeper at that. So we encourage you to look at an individual option, which was the Santa monica option. Thank you. Passed over, which requires the owner to be. Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Thank you. Good evening. Councilmembers and Mayor Connie. Llanos with Airbnb. Thank you so much for allowing us to be here today and for really a thoughtful process that has undergone over a year of community feedback. I think you've heard better from our hosts today the stories of how. Airbnb. Is impacting everyday Long Beach residents and really allowing them to stay in their homes, cover important housing costs, medical costs, supplement retirement medical bills in many situations. These are also ambassadors of Long Beach who really take pride in being able to welcome thousands of guests into this community. In fact, in 2017, this resulted in about $42 million of new spending in local businesses right here in Long Beach, supporting jobs, helping folks be able to stay and live in Long Beach. We appreciate all of the work that's gone into putting together this policy. A couple of suggestions that that we want to urge you to consider. I think, one, you did call for a community feedback process. Your community asked you for option one, consider that. Hear their their voices. They were engaged. If you want to look deeper, I think we really would consider you to look at eliminating caps for the nights that people can share the homes they live in. These folks are going to take care of their community. They're going to take care of their homes. You're going to solve for a lot of these neighborhood character and safety concerns. I think vacation rentals have existed historically in Long Beach. I think there should be a way to legitimize them through this process, but create the rules that actually solve for the noise and concerns that frankly, can happen in long term stays as well as short term stays. We want to be your partner in this process very much. Thank you so much. After attending and tending the community meetings. Everything is what it's come down to for me is that Airbnb people? What you're doing is. Actually you're providing a hotel, you're not doing it because you like to have people come. Different people come every week and stay with you. You're doing it for the money. As such, you're operating in a for profit business, just like any business like the. That the city. You should be able you should pay a yearly license because again, I think it's important that the city knows how. Many hotels are operating inside the city. Not only should they have. That information, but they should share it with the police and the fire department so the fire they can respond better. That's why I think it's important. Yet when it comes to the overall, I think my biggest issue is with buildings, five units and above. These are not home sharing. These are commercial operations. And the city is at a minimum, I would hope that they would support the, you know, the 25%. But if they do that, I would hope that the landlords would be required to notify their long term. Applicants that they're they're also hosting short term. Rentals in that building. But in my opinion, I think it's best that these buildings were not built to be hotels. Again, it's going to be hard to implement this. When inspectors going to go and be inspected as a hotel or. An apartment building. Again, there's a lot of confusion, in my opinion. Very best that unless. You know, the only way to have short term rentals. In apartment buildings is if they're converted, if they're zoned and permitted to operate as a hotel, because basically. I don't know any landlords that are living in there. Thank you, sir. Okay. Hi. My gosh, that number thing is really intimidating. My name is Natalie Barnes. I'm the proud owner of a home in Long Beach, and my home is a duplex and it resides in District three. I have been hosting vacation rentals and more recently Airbnb Rentals for the last eight years. I'd like to present a little bit more positive glimpse of what a host goes through. While many of the visitors may come from outside of our community, they come here for the community. The guests that I've had have been visiting nurses that take care of our community in our hospitals. They have been project managers that have built things for our community, and they have even been people that have come here because they want to eventually transition and live here and become a part of our community as a whole. There's another part of that which are. The people within our community. That are looking for places to stay. And I hope that you'll consider all of this when you consider what you're voting for. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. Good evening. My name is Marianne Gleason and I'm in District three. I'm on the peninsula. I've lived there for 16 years and I have a duplex. I've started short term rentals because of my elderly parents come out from the East Coast for about three months. They're snowbirds and they come up for the winter. So the balance of the months, I thought, Oh, it'd be nice to rent out, since it's hard for me to rent out full term lease, a full year lease. Anyways, I take pride in I'm on a very visible area on the peninsula, I'm on the boardwalk and pretty much everyone knows what I'm doing because I see people there, new people and and they really like to see the new people and the new wherever they're from, the countries. And I really I've had no zero problems. I have parking. I'm I'm upstairs. I'm very village vigilant about parties and, you know, no weddings. No, there's no that it's very, very restrictive. I know that some of the people that came up here this evening. On Peninsula are obviously against it. One person there's one person I think is the only person that is having a problem. There's there's one short term rental. So I would like to probably maybe help with that person to oversee. And I'll do my best to, you know, help whatever I can do to make sure that there's not a problem. And I approve of option two. Thank you. Thank you. Long night, huh? My name is Zach Kaczynski. I'm a resident of the fifth District and also an on income property in the third. I've emailed all of you my word. So I'm going to just stick to my main objection here and my proposed solution. Short term rentals are to be held to the same standards for noise ordinance rules as long term rentals. However, all three options proposed hold STR landlords directly liable for tenant violations based solely on the length of tenancy beyond the costly logistical hurdles involved with enforcement, the shoulders of the landlord with culpability for violations they themselves did not commit. And this is wrong. Landlords should not be required to maintain an asinine 24 hour complaint complaint hotline. We already have a hotline in place and that's in the form of the Long Beach Police Department. Transient occupancy tax revenue should be prioritized to ensure that the PD is adequately staffed with patrol cars, operators and dispatchers to handle any influx in disturbance calls with a focus on patrolling areas with higher densities of rentals. This is fair, it makes sense, and it's funded directly by the STR tenants themselves through tort revenue without creating a bloated, unnecessary licensing, registration and enforcement system. Thank you. Thank you. Next. Hello. My name is Daniel Jimenez, and I'm here on behalf of Unite Here Local 11. I'm here to urge you to consider the serious impact short term rentals have on the region. I have seen the effects short term rentals have on the housing market and economic development. The time is now for Long Beach and other cities to adopt an ordinance that is a true reflection of what the region needs as we face the biggest housing crisis of our lives. Other cities, such as Santa monica, consider the grave impacts short term rentals have on their housing, stock and hotel industries and incorporated this understanding into their ordinance. The City Council of Long Beach has the responsibility to do the same. I urge you to take a strong action to protect the future of the families in the area. You have the opportunity to be a leader in the nation and you should take it. Thank you. Hello. My name is Pedro alone. Thank you for allowing me to speak today. I have been living in Long Beach for around almost three years. I live in many places in the United States. I currently will be able to leave behind my corporate job to begin managing property here in the Philippines. And one thing that I would like to mention to properly address one of the recent comments of the diff. Limiting the number for rental in the long term industry will definitely affect the rental market, but in a negative way because a lot of millennials like me will not be buying property if in a place where they are limited. I myself have been thinking about buying a full plate and if that is limited in number for rent of that, I can have, I will look for what else I will buy, for what I will now buy here. And a lot of people will do the same thing. But I love Long Beach and I think that you guys would probably look at this in a very fair way for everybody that will work in a way that everybody would be happy at the end. I, I forgive the probably the best option would be number one, even though I think the total is a little too high because we are not hotels and. One of the things that I wanted to mention is that the. That we do not support the platform liability. And I think the option it too is way too confusing for a lot of people and does not address all the issues that you want to address. Thank you. Good evening, counsel. Michael O'Toole and I represent Naples Islanders there. Homeowner's Association President. I think these are some amazing stories. First of all, I've never been in a room like this with this many. Owners of or. Workers with the BMB. It's beautiful, the nice stories, but what I think we're getting caught up in a little bit is forgetting it's not just hosts. They're also renting out complete houses. And I think that's a little bit more of a concern. Down in Naples Island, it's a community. It was it was built in 1905. It's a bedroom community. It's got a school right in the middle of it. It's got family houses, single family houses throughout. And by entering into the VRBO world, renting out entire house, it really changes the community. It changes the makeup of it, it changes the traffic pattern, it changes the parking. It's a little bit different. If a host is there, they can control what's going on in the House. They can control what their neighborhood is like. They control what the how all the neighborhoods get along and how they park and where they park and how they go about their business in that neighborhood. When you start adding homes that don't have any of that control, it gets a little bit tougher. So I think the Airbnb concept is beautiful and you've heard a thousand stories tonight that make that that make a good argument for that. But let's not forget, and you seem to be forgetting this VR part, where they rent out an entire house and a bedroom community changes that community tremendously. So along with the beautiful stories, let's think about the big houses, too. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Johanna Cunningham and I'm founder and CEO for the National Short Term Rental in India. This industry is certainly growing, as we've heard, and we want to make sure that we were that we're exploring all of the different options. I have three issues that I'd like to speak to tonight. Number one is the transient occupancy tax. Short term rentals don't even come close to offering what hotels offer. Businesses and families use short term rentals as a way to be able to come to cities that they would be unable to afford in any other way spas, restaurants , workout rooms, events, sites, pools, parking. None of those are usually offered in short term rentals, but they are in hotels. The families are able to afford the opportunity to travel without the high prices that hotels charge. It is a different experience. However, short term rentals provide the city of Long Beach more tourist dollars. They're able to to experience and attend stores. They're able to go to restaurants, and they're supporting the viability of the job market so small and mid-sized business owners are able to thrive. The second is the annual business license requirement. Owners are already paying property tax as it is a private residence. Owners are trying to do what they can to supplement their income, and we don't want to cross over into private property rights. The last is a multifamily. Thank you. And we want to make sure that thank you at least do in part something to support this industry. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. John Dilatory, resident of the eighth where I have my home sharing within my house, and then also a property in the second and third district. Honorable Mayor and Council Members, Thank you for the opportunity to share with you an exciting opportunity that has been what an exciting opportunity has been to host people in my home. We have had people from every corner of the world and have taken every chance to share our passion for Long Beach. Many foreigner foreign guests do the usual. They go to the West Coast vacation of San Francisco, L.A., Anaheim, Las Vegas and maybe San Diego. Many of them have no idea what to do in Long Beach, and we take that opportunity to offer them and steer them to all parts of Long Beach, Pine Avenue and ST Sinners in the first Retro Row and the Socialists in the second, second street and open sesame in the third. Most goes on and on through each of the districts that we know and we share with these people and send them to the two main concerns found by the Wise Consultant Group where housing stock and noise parties. They also found that only 0.75% of the housing stock are stars, and many are like me with a room in their home that would not be available as housing stock if things were to change. So housing stock should not be a concern. As for noise parties, we have a noise ordinance in place that is taken care of by our police department. I feel a modified combination of option one or two, which I shared via email to each of you would be the best compromise for on page three. Table one Summary in Overview and Requirements. Thank you so much. Thank you. When I was just like, Oh, no, you stay. This number is my dear mother. Good evening to each one of you. My name is Maria motta. It's like going out on your local onsen. And with the Unite here Local 11. I will not be portraying the news. I've lived in Long Beach for 30 years. Asylum manager, the apartment. Those poor waitress iguanas. The one I had a dream day. Those apartments. And I managed 32 apartments. But also, Susana says that YOLO reckless regulation is a long beach. For all these years, I've followed all the laws of Long Beach. Like. No. Greylock is whose stock I ought to be. You're not. The link is that regulation is with you. So I don't think it's fair that I have to follow all the rules and others don't. Grace. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Next. Dave Shukla, resident of the third. I'd like to thank the staff for their work on the short term rental ordinance and to support their recommendation for option two with specific modifications for Long Beach. We've heard a lot this evening about community character specifically. A couple speakers ago, Maples Island. There's a perverse incentive if you don't have for all these folks who want to make ends meet and rent out their homes to have. Owners not on site and multiple properties and often entire multi-family residential buildings rented out as a workaround to just renting them out as hotels or other short term rental options that actually do pay the transit oriented tax. Transit the total. Limiting the rentals to the primary residence, as well as including platform accountability, the ability to actually get the data from Airbnb over who's abusing the system and putting the onus on them to provide enforcement rather than the city. Having to chase stories or chase police reports is probably a much more effective option. Thank you. Thank you. You folks. My name is Nathan Gordon with the local 11. Quick story. A few years ago, I was able to rent an apartment in this building on Broadway in Linden. It's called the Old Broadland Hotel, built in 1902. It was converted to apartments. Back then, the rent was $700. A few years later, when I returned to the country in 2015, it was 1400 dollars. Now this same building is list all pretty much all the units on Airbnb for 99 tonight. That's almost 2000 dollars for each unit you could make. What motivation does he have to rent it out to locals when he can just make all his money on Airbnb? Anyway. My point is that the Council should direct staff to draft an ordinance which includes platform accountability and primary residency posting. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Hi. My name's Danielle Wilson. I'm here with the Unite Here Local 11. I've seen short term rentals decimate the housing stock in L.A. and other California cities where we are in a housing crisis. I've seen entire apartment buildings and multifamily buildings, like the gentleman said earlier, turned into de facto hotels in Los Angeles, Venice, Santa monica and here in Long Beach. Most notably about this phenomenon is the fact that it is already illegal. So I say that to say that the proliferation of stars in this way is largely a problem of enforcement, for one, and an inaccurate portrayal of the majority of our host to address enforcement. The city of Santa monica, where over 60% of illegal units have been taken off the market, has recognized how challenging it is for cities to ensure that short term rentals are regulated in a way that actually protects our housing and our neighborhoods. This is known as platform accountability, where the burden of enforcement is on the platforms, not on staff who are already inundated with complaints and other code enforcement issues. For every listing found on the platform's website that is not registered with the city, the platforms should be required to pay a fine for one. The platform should also be required to share data with the city because, like Santa monica and other cities have found, it is very difficult to get the platforms to comply when the city is trying to investigate, investigate a complaint. And as the majority of stars in the city of Long Beach are on hosted, this is the case all over the place. If you want to run out your bedroom, we're fine with that. But if you want to take a valuable housing unit off the market, that is irresponsible and the city should not come forward tonight if that's going to be the case. Thank you. Excuse me 1/2. Now, the young lady up here disabled, she will be speaking now. I'm Maureen Po. And I would just want to have you think about what it's like to live next to an Airbnb. We had the very sad experience with one that was across the street from us, and there would be people coming in for maybe two days at a time or maybe a week, but they would always be different people and there didn't seem to be any control over having late parties. After 10:00 at night, the night the noise was still going on, there'd be young women and men together out in front. And it was a constant noise and worry because when you get home, you didn't know where you could park. My husband and I are both handicapped and we need to be able to park close to getting into our house. And you couldn't do that. I really hope that you would think about option three, that that would have more restrictions. I know that we were told that an area could be actually cut out and left without having that rental. So please think about that for us. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next. Yes, hello. My name is Al Farmer. I'm here with my union Unite Here, Local 11. I'd just like to echo what that last speaker said in terms of having carve out areas. Maybe instead, the city should consider exempting everywhere and letting communities opt in to having short term rentals in their in their neighborhoods before actually allowing these party houses and commercial businesses to take over whole apartment buildings. So obviously, owners who who make money on Airbnb do not want to be regulated. They they live in a current state where they they are not being heavily regulated by the city. They don't want any regulation. Airbnb obviously does not want any regulation because it is a corporate middleman. It is not here to benefit the community of Long Beach. It is not here to benefit the people who clean those places or the people who stay in them. And the benefit it gives to the people who rent them out isn't actually Airbnb's intention. Their intention is to make profit off of those folks, and to some extent they're being taken advantage of because they're harming their city by reducing the housing stock. That is why we need platform accountability to keep track of what is going on on places like Airbnb and VRBO. And it is why this council needs to include those things in in this short term rental rental regulation legislation, or it needs to hold this vote until these issues can be more properly studied. If you have 1% of half, half or 1% on Airbnb and you only have a 3% vacancy rate, that's, you know, 40% of your available housing. Thank you. Hi. I'm Jonah Breslau. I'm also here at Unite here Local 11. And, you know, one of the things that's really stuck out to me is that a lot of the folks speaking are homeowners. And that's. Wonderful. But this is a city of renters. And I myself am a renter. And I think that as the last speaker mentioned. One of the things that's really important is the housing market. There is a housing crisis going on. And when you have a 3% vacancy. Rate, it is very serious to have more than a thousand units off the market. So again, I just want to say that we need a legislation that we can actually enforce to make sure that there's affordable housing. We need primary residence requirements to make sure that people are actually using this as home sharing and not to run hotels out of their homes. And we need platform accountability so that it's possible to actually enforce this ordinance. I mean, I'm just listening to this 25% rule. How would someone even file a complaint about whether or not more than 25% of the units in their building are being used for Airbnb? That seems very complicated to determine if that's being violated. But the primary residence requirement is simple. It's clear it's enforceable, especially if you have the platform accountability provision. So if those can't be put into this, I think that the, you know, city council should thank you, sign and hear from more renters and neighbors of these Airbnb properties . Thank you. Good evening, counsel. My name is Jordan. I'm with you. Not here. Local 11. One of the great things about Long Beach has always been its affordability and accessibility to all residents. However, with the housing crisis that it hit all of Southern California, it's vital that we pass a real short. Term rental regulation. Given the shortage of housing, in particular affordable housing. We don't need short term rentals taking long term housing off the market, housing that can go to long term residents. In my opinion, long term residents are not long term problems, as was said earlier by one of the speakers there. Long there are Long Beach residents that create long term community hosts should be limited to one unit so that we don't take more units off the market and we need platform accountabilities that this law can actually be enforced. If you're not ready to include these sensible solutions, I believe you should postpones that. You have time to really look more into these issues with care. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Christine Miller. I'm a former. Hotel worker and organizer. With Local. 11. I urge the council to pass an ordinance that holds short term rentals accountable to the city, regulates their usage, and requires sufficient. Community benefits through proper oversight. Of the crucial TOT. The City of Long Beach has the opportunity. To create strong and thorough legislation that protects. Our quality of life while creating a much needed and potentially robust source of revenue for the city. I believe this legislation should include a host be limited to one unit that is their primary residence so that we don't see the proliferation of unregulated hotels. I think it. Is also crucial. To include platform accountability. If you are not prepared to include these items tonight, we strongly encourage you to postpone the vote because we believe you really need enough time to look into these matters thoroughly and with care. I urge you to take this responsibility seriously. Thank you so much. Thank you. Next. Well, I am I live in the fifth District. And I just one of the things is, is that, um, what if basically everybody's covered all these points that I wanted to make and I do host Airbnb and I just wanted to remind that that we do bring money in because like you said, that that $10,000 that comes in, that money is, is been is, is very spent back into the community. So that we do have that. Sorry. But we do have the ability to invest in our community and we also invest in our houses we invest in and we spend the money to do other things. So the other thing I wanted to just to reiterate was that, you know, the people who come to stay at my house, they're doing things locally. They go to Cal State, Long Beach for conferences or they have to do things around around my neighborhood. So and those people need to have the housing so that they can have something that's affordable to them, because most of the time they're not working for corporations who are sending them on a business trip. They're doing it for themselves and they need to find ways to save money. So thank you. Good evening, Hawkeye Rivero with Libra. I'm just struck by sort of like what we're actually. Talking about and then. Just just keeping in mind that the city is currently trying to tackle the homelessness crisis, which has to do with housing availability, and yet we're here considering actually taking units off the market. Does it make any sense to me how is the city going to tackle homelessness and still allow for non hosted units to be taken off the market? It almost seems like a contradiction, so I don't know how we're going to deal with that. And with the housing crisis as it is low vacancy rates and we don't have any tenant protections, we don't have any money for affordable housing development or any significant affordable housing development projects. How are we replacing the units that we're currently taking off the market? By allowing these stores that are non hosted when we're not, we don't have any plan in place to replace them. And yet we're in a housing crisis and we're we we're willing for these units to actually be taken away from long term renters. And do we not care about stability of our communities? Because studies have shown time after time that community stability is is integral in a healthy community, in a safer community, in a more economically viable community. And yet we have hosts here coming up saying that long term renters are no good, that they prefer short term renters. So basically saying we like unstable communities and that's what we're going to line our pockets with. And I think that that's something that you all need to consider. We need sensible regulations that keep the regulations to host it. Thank you, sir. And people's primary residence. Thank you. Good evening, councilmembers and Mayor. My name is Catherine Chappell. I'm an Airbnb super host in District six. I am in support of Option one as a best serves the range of hosts that are in this community and is the least restrictive. I ran one room in an owner occupied home. Currently, the money. I make from Airbnb is split between home improvement and funding a college education. Being an Airbnb host has increased the value of my home through these improvements. In addition, local businesses gain from customers through the recommendations that I make to guests far into the future. I like to imagine the potential for income that I could earn as an Airbnb host when I retire. And that actually might be the. Most important part for. Me is income that I could earn when I'm no. Longer getting a routine paycheck. I experience as a host a loud neighborhood. With barking dogs, fighting. Couples, dirty alleyways tied with graffiti. I'm doing my part to make my place as beautiful as I can and in it, and an inviting space that is a safe feeling as possible. I like having a short term rental. I've had a bad experience with long term rental. I'm talking teased on the front lawn and cops called twice, so I will never rent to somebody again. I like having a short term rental for that purpose, and I also like having a space available for a guest room ready for them to come into. Family comes to visit me all the time. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yes. Good evening. My name is Kevin Yeager. I'm a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and a resident of District two. I'm here to urge the City Council to restrict staffers to only primary residences, no unhosted units. In previous city council meetings, when we've come here to ask for rent control or tenant protections, we've always had the conversation redirected towards housing supply. We don't need limits on rent increases or unjust evictions. We just need to build more housing. And while increasing our housing supply is not enough to address this current crisis, it's absolutely a start. And that's why we can't allow Unhosted Airbnb units to remove rental units from our already strained market. These Unhosted units would otherwise be rental units. Instead, they're operating as effectively illegal hotels. And there's really a discrepancy we're seeing where developers come in. They might build 500 units in downtown Long Beach with 3% in the affordable range. And then meanwhile, on the back end, we're allowing multi-unit buildings to give up to 25% of their rental stock to tourism. So this is just not a sustainable model for our rental supply. We need to resist this commodification of our community and put regulations in place to protect what little rental stock we have. Thank you. My name is Gerald Anderson and I am a resident of Naples. We have each have a copy of the petition that a group of us circulated in Naples. And in circulating it, we, we talked to the people who live next door to and in this disease as these stars and the people who are nearby, those at least in Naples, really feel strongly against against this this practice. So we we were able to get over a thousand signatures so far, and we were still getting more from. And that represents about 800 over 850 residences at different addresses in Naples. So we I urge you to accept, accept, pass. Option three and also option R petition did not designate and hosted. Reynolds Only it was was just general that we want the practice of stars stopped in Naples. So I think you should cover those and you should also consider covering other things by petition. I think that's a very good practice. So I urge you to accept our petition and. To thank you. Sir. Option three. Okay. Holly and Anderson seven reveal also Canal Naples. We respectfully urge you to support the Naples position petition are only over 1000 signatures. To prohibit short term rentals in Naples. We are zoned in R.A. one for a reason. We are exactly three feet away from each other in that small community. We have no backyards, we have postage stamp front yards, and trust me, our houses back up to each other. If we have our kitchen doors open together, the neighbor and us have our living room doors open. You can hear everything. Our bedroom, our master bedroom looks right down on their deck. So our concern for a stranger is going in and out 8 to 10 strangers every two or three days because of safety and security concerns. There is also a liability for the city from from the water. Our homes are actually 12 to 15 feet from the water and the seawalls. There are a mere 18 inches for small children to climb up on the seawall and to go over into the water. Renters would be more careless with that. We bought our houses to live in many years ago as a family community. And most people we think if there were thank you, thank you must not buy a house next to a commercial enterprise like the many hotels. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Leaving councilmembers. Mr. Mayor, Victor Sanchez of the Long Beach Coalition for Good Jobs and a Healthy Community. We really want to kind of try and bring this home. This is this is about the housing crisis. And we're talking about short term rentals. They play a part in the housing crisis. And so what we're trying to advocate for is none of the options. Actually, it's an alternative option, one that focuses on platform accountability and primary residence as a requirement. The on the accountability piece, look, they will cut you a check for Toyota. You will get them needed revenue to fund vital city services and to continue right in that respect. But on the enforcement mechanism, you can create a registry, but without the necessary provisions in an ordinance to mandate that the platforms themselves share the data and the information so that you can cross-reference and actually hold the platforms accountable for the unregistered or unlicensed bookings that are potentially on there. You're going to be spending a lot of money on the back end as a city to try and recoup that later down the road. On the primary residence situation. Look, there's a fine line between speculation and supplemental income. And what we're trying to avoid here is for folks who own multiple homes to take away long term resident units that would otherwise go to long term resident families. And we can go and say that, oh, it's a small part of the housing stock. It's less than 1%. But in the housing crisis where you have such a low vacancy rate, right, every unit matters. And so we're imploring you to really pay attention to those two things as you decide and continue having this conversation. Thank you. Just 1/2 and we're going to close the speakers list if there's a last person speaking. Anyone else? Okay. We're closing right there. The young man with the loudspeaker. Thank you. You can come up, sir. Hi. Good evening. My name is a. Shy and I am a super host with Airbnb. I live in District six. I have a little bit of stage fright, so bear with me. I own two units in District six. I do whole home rentals. I don't do a shared bedroom. I don't do any of that stuff. And that's because among Airbnb hosts, we're all different. I mean, everybody has different needs. I could go out and say, Hey, I want some income property. And let's buy some long term rentals. Well, the thing is, you have bad long term rentals, just as you have bad short term rentals. But the problem here is that I think a lot of people are coming up to date that have had bad experiences with short term rentals, and they're trying to make that the norm. That's not my experience. I have adequate parking for all my guests. I've been a host for three years. I don't have any noise complaints. I manage my property very well. Now I'm an option. I'm in favor of. Option one just because people should be allowed to do what they want. I feel to the. Major degree, with a hard home when I travel, I have a need for short term rentals. If I move with my family of seven for a one week stay in some city, I can go to a hotel for that, you know, drinks of time. Neither can I do a long term rental. A short term rental. That's what I need this it need for that and we just need to regulate it. Well. Thank you. Thank you, sir. That's good evening. My name is Tamara Swagger. I'm a resident of District seven. My husband and I moved to Long Beach from SEAL Beach four years ago. We bought a seven bedroom, seven bath fixer upper that had been bank owned for about 11 years. And we've spent the last four years remodeling it. Two of the rooms in our home are operated as Airbnb units are both Airbnb plus we are in our home full time. My husband has a full time job, as do I. We also have two long term rentals that we will keep long term rentals. We have no intention of converting them to short term. We have found it to be a really positive experience for both my husband, myself and my son, who is ten. And since we moved to Long Beach, we have a daughter who's two. Some of our guests, you've heard a lot of people tonight talk about they have had traveling nurses, people who are tourists. We had the opportunity to host two people who were negotiating their leases to become tenants at Steele Craft, which is a development in Bixby Knolls. And and since then, both have purchased homes in the Long Beach area. I am a strong supporter of the sharing economy. I do think that it self regulates, whether it's Airbnb or Turo or Lyft or Uber, and I think that regulation is good and something that should be considered and enforced because it legitimizes the platform in my opinion. I think that the study that was done was thorough and I would urge you to move forward with the recommendation. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker. Hello. My name is Sam Grippo from Belmont Shores. First, I like to say that thank you for doing the workshops. It was much appreciated and I support Option one and the only thing I don't believe in is the putting in the liability platform there. Second is, I believe in short term rentals and long term rentals. And as far as long term rentals, I live where I live and I have some long term, Reynolds said, that are pretty much partying all the time and there's nothing I can do about it. I don't even have a 24 hour calling number for long term rentals, and I think that should be an issue to who. If you're going to do it to short term rentals, you should provide it for long term rentals to now and. The thing I have is that I am I believe in the economy. I believe in free market. Now, what would be great if we can just make sure that everything is fair and that we make sure that people understand that people own their properties, they have the right to do what they can do with it, but not to make it so terrible that you have to use option three where people are just not able to do anything. And this is great for the economy. This is great for Long Beach sales tax. t0t it just brings a great economic situation for Long Beach. Thank you. Thanks so much, Councilwoman Mango. Actually, now I'm sorry. Please come forward. It's a. No, I have two more speakers. I'm sorry about that. Please go ahead. Yeah, well, good evening. There's more speakers. My name is Nerida, and I am a super worker and a super resident. Uh oh. Oh, sorry. It's been a long night. I've been at work here. Anyways, as a worker and as a resident of this city, I strongly encourage Long Beach City Council to do the right thing in order to ensure for us to work and live in Long Beach. We need a we need to continue with an ordinance for short term rental that will not threaten our ability to do so. It is your job as elected officials to protect our jobs by continuing to encourage the economic development of Long Beach Union Hotels. Allowing short term rental platforms to enter our city without any regulations would seriously harm our jobs and our industry. Thus, Long Beach City Council must follow the footsteps of Santa monica and approve that ordinance that hold short term rental platforms accountable in our community. Our community is not burdened. Some longshoreman long term rentals are not burdened. Some residents are not burdened. Some we are Long Beach. We are community this. We are what makes Long Beach great. And if we don't have that, where where are we to live? You know, I just strongly encourage Long Beach City Council to do the right thing tonight. Please. Hello. My name is Mauricio, and this is my daughter, Aubrey. I'm a minimum wage worker. I take her to school in the morning. I go to work and I get out of work. I pick her up and then we go to my second job. I work all day from eight in the morning till 11 at night. So she's there with me at work and work. And I just barely make the the train, which is 1500 here in downtown Long Beach. And just two weeks ago, two weeks ago. The businesses that I work with worked for, they shut down so I don't have a job anymore. And Airbnb has helped me pay the rent and now I can spend time with her. She's improving reading at her school. I read to her every day her ABCs, her numbers and everything. Airbnb has gave me a second chance to pay my bills, the rent, and spend more time with her. So all we ask from you is help. And we're good citizens. We pay taxes. And her name is Aubrey, and I'm a single parent. Thank you. Thank you very much. And thank you for coming to. Let me go ahead and sorry. It's not Councilwoman Mongeau. There is a motion in a second on the floor. So let me and I know there's going to be. I just hope people also can just bear with us here. There's questions and there's I know the staff has got I know a lot of information as well. So want to make sure I've got the chance to to do that. Before we begin comes when Councilor Pierce, I got a note from staff that you wanted to clarify something in the staff report just to make it clear. Yes. First of all, that was a lot of great input, and I'm sure that'll be a part of the discussion at the council dais. But two things that I did want to point out for the audience that was not quite clear in the staff report. The first is option one versus option two is there are some differences and we went through those. But if you're a host who is living in your unit, there is no difference between option one and option two. So if you if the council wants to ask more questions about that, we can certainly get into that. But I did want to point that out. We heard a lot of people who live in their homes who are renting it out. There is no difference between option one and option to for them. The second is we heard a lot of input about the TOTY, about what the level of the TOTTY should be, whether we should exempt short term rentals when it should be higher or lower. I just wanted to point out that the city council, this body does not have the ability to exempt anyone from the TOTY. They can't increase the vote, they can't lower the totty that's set by the voters at 12%, and it would apply to short term rentals and could only be changed by the voters. And so with that, we're prepared to answer questions. Thank you. Let me turn this over to Councilor Pearce. Okay. Well, thank you. All of you. Plus, I think public comments that we had and I know that our staff has done a great job of listening and taking an input for the last year. And so I just want to thank everybody for going along this process with us. So I wanna remind us at the beginning of this process actually was not in the housing report. It was when this item was agenda was by the council. And the item is agenda is by the council to really try to tackle two things. One is to understand the impact of units on our housing stock, given that we are about 4% housing vacancy and to create a revenue stream to support protecting affordable housing. Two was to regulate home share short term rentals in a way that enriches the lives, invites alternative modes of tourism or regulating the quality of life, and providing for a revenue stream to monitor as towers, which we currently do not have. And so I want to recognize those that open up their homes are adding to the fabric of this community. I want to recognize those that are struggling to pay their rent are also adding to the fabric of this community. And so this item, listening to the public comments and I. There are so many people that said option one, two and three. And there are things that I agree with all of them. And so I really have spent the last couple of weeks since we've had the staff report out really trying to dissect, not just looking at the staff report as one, two and three, but as a policymaker. I spent a, you know, a decade at a nonprofit that did policy work, really trying to take it seriously and craft a policy that that will be good for Long Beach overall. So, no, no, that going into this that this is a very complex policy and it's not done willy nilly. And so with that comment, you know, there are a lot of questions that we have about the staff report. There are several opportunities where we do not have a lot of information yet. And so I think it's important that today that our council give some direction as to what we'd like to see in the short term rental world, but also give us some opportunities to hear back from staff and in some of these situations. So I'm going to go through all of them, but I just wanted to kind of put the context that I don't expect us to, by the end of today, have an ordinance that we are all 100% on board with, that the city attorneys on board with that staff is on board with because this is a really complex issue. And it is the first time that we as a council have heard this issue as a body. So typically we might have a study session ahead of time and then give some direction to staff to come back. And so bear with us with the process knowing that that hasn't quite happened yet. And this is our first time as a body talking about this in over a year. So with that, I wanted to make a couple comments from the data that was shared. Things that stuck out for me were that 84% of the sharing or people sharing an entire listing, that the average age is 44 people, you know, in their careers, maybe career changing, trying to supplement the majority. Almost 60% of them are women who are. As we know, women are often paid less and are still struggling to equal that same amount going down. See, I have several notes I'm trying to be mindful of. I'm going to start at the beginning. And if you look at the staff report, they have divided it up into several sections. And so I'm going to ask some questions of staff and then hear from my council colleagues and go from there with the. House parties. I know that there is a muni code chapter out there. Can staff just clarify for us what's happening in the city versus what we're trying to say in this staff report around short term rentals and where we might rectify that in the future? Currently. Any residential use or any other use that creates a noise that is in excess of what the noise ordinance allows. It can be investigated, incited if they are found to be in violation. I think what we were looking for here is based upon the feedback that we heard through our community outreach efforts, is that short term rentals in particular sometimes created noise impacts that may necessarily be over and above what you might experience in a regular residential neighborhood setting. So we wanted to put into place some protections that put a little bit more regulation around the short term rentals, because we did have the concern about making sure we protect the character of the residential area and minimize any potential impacts. And so the noise issue that we laid in place was in addition to making sure that the renters or the guests would be made aware of all of the regulations around the rental of the unit, including the noise issue. And the other consideration regarding noise was just the number of persons that were in the unit. So in addition to restricting the number of occupants in the unit, the intent was to just make sure that activities were not occurring during the rental of the property that might result in excessive noise. So that's that's the gist of how we came up with the regulations. Okay. And then the limiting to ten people per household was a number that we based off of just wanting to lower the amount of people for noise or is there specific reason. It was noise was one of the factors there. But the other factor is generally the fact that you we wanted to make sure that the size of the unit was or the number of bedrooms in the space in the unit was commensurate with the number of people that were residing in them. So it's a I would say broadly, it's just kind of a safety issue that you don't want to have an overcrowded unit that we think contributes to deterioration of the unit and other negative impacts to the unit as well. Okay. It's Mike. In parking. And. Parking. And I know that we talked about parking earlier and the parking is not something that we feel we can regulate because of the land use. Correct. So that is not something that that staff is recommending. I'm trying to get the the light easy things out of the way before we talk about the big thing. So bear with me so I can do this slowly. For house parties, what I would like to see if council is open to is having staff come back where we address the existing policy and look at something simple, like having the number of special permits for big events. So that we're not saying you're not allowed to host anything. So like I'm staying in a short term rental over Christmas, I'm having a Christmas party. I need to go get a permit for that instead of banning it completely. And that we can talk as a council about what we think is a reasonable number for that. For. Just to go back up to the top. So on option two. So if I based off of option two, I support option two. And I know that there's some things that are that are challenging with it. And so one of the the things that stuck out to me was the number of units being up to six stars or 25% of a total unit. And so walk us through what that looks like for, I mean, my district, the majority of the units say their ten unit buildings. And then I have on down in downtown, I have a 400 building unit. So one of the options we discussed was making it 10% across the board for any unit and not having a specific number like six. That's something that we can do that staff would recommend moving forward with. I'm sorry. We would actually like to recommend a sliding scale. So. That under 50 it would be 25%. With a max of six. Units, a development with 51 to 115% or a max of eight and then plus 10%. With a max of ten. Mm. Okay. I want to hear what my council colleagues have to say just on that. I talked to staff, I talked to the city attorney. I talked to Tom a little bit today. And so I think what is more comfortable for me versus this kind of piecemeal. Up to two stars or three if this in 25 year six there is that we would get to a place where we would say 1% of our housing stock across the board and that if we had 10% of every unit that way, we're not having units that have six or only have two whenever they actually might have a bigger capacity. So one of my challenges is my downtown residence. There is a very large percent of my downtown residents that live here half the time and live in Florida half the time. And so I don't want to limit the number in those areas where they have a bigger capacity for them versus a lower income building that I might have closer to the Alamitos Beach area. And so this, folks, is why this is challenging today, because we are literally this is a massive policy. And so I want to not ask for you guys to vote for those things today, but give us some direction. If those are our requests, come back with how we would implement those. Because I know that this is going to be too much for council colleagues to really dissect each little piece. So does that make sense? I mean, I think we might be able to dissect. Okay, but let's try it. I'm getting some very eyebrows. So I just wanted to make sure. I think I just want to make sure. I just want to make sure. Just to clarify, I mean, maybe we can do that. You wanted the clarification at the end. Clarify. I think the 1% issue makes sense to most folks. I think. That of the sliding or. Changing a sliding scale to a percentage, which does not have very much. Practical, immediate effect. I don't think what we currently have is Mr. Motor. So as we understand, those are two related but a little bit different issues. So as we understand there's a concept of saying we would put an ultimate limit on the number of stores in the city at 1% of the housing stock. That would be to prevent owed, you know, too many conversions over time that this becomes kind of a runaway ordinance and you start going to two to 3 to 4%. So that's one issue. Staff would be very supportive of that. We can bring that back as part of the of the ordinance. The other is the issue of and I think it was appropriately brought up that there are some small buildings, but then there's also some very large buildings. And so we could do a sliding scale, as was mentioned by by Lisa, to try to to equitably distribute among those larger buildings that, you know, a larger building could have a little bit more without having as much impact. It could be 10% across the board. That really is a policy issue from the council. We recommended the 25% or six, whichever is lower. It could be 25 or six, whichever is higher, it could be 10% or a sliding scale. So we're looking for some direction on that. And you could bring those options back also. But I, I, I understand what the councilman saying there. We could ideally what we would like to do is get some direction tonight on some basic framework for the street and come back with an ordinance. We can also you can also ask us to maybe pick one, come back in the ordinance, and then we could also come back with options, you know, you know, just to talk about it. But rather than we're trying to avoid bringing back three or four different ordinances, we'd want to bring back one ordinance. But if you want us to research aspects, we can do that too. Yeah, there's just so many options here that I want to make sure that we as a council, all of us, I know that I've been paying close attention to this, but that we all are understanding the impacts of it when we see. 10%, 1% safety and liability. 10%. So on enforcement. One of the conversations that I've had both with the platform Airbnb and note, that's the only platform that's reached out or engaged with us at all. And that I've had with some other folks is the idea of a third party verification. And so I know when we talked about how we would verify and what that process looks like, there's still a lot of questions that staff has. So this again, is another piece of this that I feel like is not fleshed out and ready for primetime, per se. So I would like to ask that staff take the next hundred and 20 days or sooner if they can get it done sooner to meet with at least three platforms. And a third party like Vertu fi group. There's other groups out there to talk about how we can make sure that the is getting the information that we need. Not too much information. Not information that's going to result with a lawsuit, but basic information that's going to allow us to regulate this industry and collect the right amount of top end and fees that are required. So that was one piece out of this that I didn't feel really comfortable with. And I don't necessarily think that we have to go down the same path that other cities have gone. If we have an opportunity now to go with one of these newer routes. On the fines. I know that that staff had made some recommendation on fines. One of the things that was brought up, I think, if we're talking about a lot of these hosts are people that live in their buildings. The outreach for this, you know, I'm not really clear on how how thorough that's going to be. So one of the options I wanted to propose to my council colleagues was that the first instance actually be a warning instead of a $500 fine and that they have 30 days to register and apply for a business license, that the second violation be $1,000, the next violation would be 15, and the third violation would be 2000 and the registration would be revoked. Following with the the remaining recommendations that staff has on that process. But really, the main thing is that that first one is not a fine, but it's a fix, that warning. So just for clarification, it would go from a three fine to a four fine. You get one warning, then it would go to 1000 for the first warnings that your first fine. Second fine would be 1500 third fine would be 2000. Okay. I'm sorry. On the ACR registration, I know that one of the biggest challenges is making sure that it is a simple process and that hosts are actually going on and registering. So I know that staff has not made some recommendations that costs would be that that is our cost recovery fee and I wanted to go on record was saying I think it should be as low as a fee as possible so we can make sure we get more people registering on the platform than not and that that process be a simplified process. Someone just go on record with that and hope that when this item comes back that you guys have fleshed out what those numbers look like and what we can actually do. I know, tier two we address. That's one of the things we talked about with Toti and it was brought up in the audience today is that hotels get a benefit whenever they pay into Toti, they get advertising. And so I know staff will work closely with Steve Goodling and with our tourism, our CVB board to say that on the same website that says here we have, you know, the Hyatt and the Westin, that there's a platform link that says here's an Airbnb or whatever other links there. So the hosts feel like they're getting something for their investment. And I do want to point out that the Convention Visitors Bureau is really seeing a change in the convention business in the last couple of years. So there is conventions that really their members want to do short term rentals instead of stay in hotels. So, you know, the convention center is is embracing that. There are people who like hotels, there's people who like stars. And so they're really embracing that whoever wants to stay because they're all coming to Long Beach to spend money. So they would certainly embrace that. Well, and that's you know, I think that that is the hard part of the discussion today. And so I just want to address that because I haven't addressed it yet. I know that, you know, the hotel workers are seeing this as a as a challenge and that there's one is affordability. One is the challenge with the hotels. And I mean, I'm somebody that travels a lot. There's many times I want to stay in a hotel and there are times I want to stay in a short term rental. You know, they offer different things. So hosting a Christmas dinner, that's my short term rental, not doing that at a hotel. And I know that our hotel and tourism market is strong. I feel comfortable that it is going to continue to thrive. We've got, you know, six projects in the works right now looking at downtown. And so I'm really, really trying to be mindful about creating a positive policy that is not going to overburden us with excess of staffers, but is going to be mindful of those homeowners that are already doing this project. So I want to be mindful of that. And just to to reference that. So to be clear, for next steps, I think, as I mentioned, that this isn't fully fleshed out, that that there's a lot of information that we do not have as a council. And so when you do come back, just making sure that we come back with the enforcement piece, that we have a staff report and recommendations from you guys on the registration fees and the business licenses. And so that was one other thing with the business licenses. I wanted to ask if there was a way for us to not require a business license for hosts that rent less than 30 days. And I think that our city attorney might have had some challenges with that. So if you could elaborate on that. Councilwoman Pierce. That's one of the things that we're looking at right now. Currently, the way the business license taxes is structured for these types of short term rentals, there's actually an exemption built in the tax. For. Fewer than four units. So we would have to look to see if we could even impose a business license tax for 1 to 3 units at this point because those taxes were adopted by a vote of the people. So that's one of the things we're looking at. It doesn't mean you couldn't charge fees necessarily, but it wouldn't be part of the business license tax. Okay. So that that goes back to my point of making sure that when this item comes back, the only way that I'm able to support having up to 1% short term rentals is that we're creating some fees and some funding that has a nexus tied to affordable housing. So if this comes back and the staff report comes back and says, we can't do fees, we can't do these registration, then I'm going to I'm going to be in a challenging spot. So I just wanted to make sure that that was really clear. So I hope that we can find some avenue to support our affordable housing. So in the report, you guys talk about inclusionary housing. And I know right now we've just brought on our our consultant. They're out doing community engagement around inclusionary housing. Can you talk about one more time what the the nexus in between regulating our short term rentals and affordable housing might be? We know that there is some limited nexus and that's the purpose of doing the study so that we can more fully establish that relationship. We feel that the short term that there is some opportunity to create a a some level of funding for affordable housing. But we really will rely on a study to determine what that level should be. And that, of course, would be in conjunction with looking at the cost recovery to put in place the the staff efforts in the implementation of the program overall. So it would really be balancing the amount that is going to cost recovery. The amount that would be left over would be something that we could consider for affordable housing. We just need to have a study to determine what those amounts are. Okay. And when you do that study and look at those amounts, I know that we looked at inclusionary housing. I also would like to ask staff to maybe explore if there's some nexus with period to maintain existing housing so it doesn't get taken off the market. Just to make sure we're looking at any options in case the funding isn't a big enough number to have a real impact on on developing new housing. And I think I mentioned earlier that it's pretty clearly spelled out in the options that were laid out for you that no currently dedicated and covenanted affordable housing would be eligible for a short term rental. So none of those would be taken off the out of the interest. Yeah, I understand. So with that for the vote today, if we vote and we make some of these changes or give a little bit better direction to staff, and we haven't figured out that enforcement mechanism yet. What happens next? So just walk us through. We vote today. Everything that city staff will do. Well, essentially what we would start with is taking the items that come out of the council's motion and we would tackle them one by one. We do the fee assessment to determine what the registration fee for short term rentals, what an appropriate fee would be. And I literally your request about special events. We would work with the city attorney's office to determine what mechanism makes that practical or feasible. We did ask specifically that you give us direction. You said you're not sure what the number would be, but what we would do is just look at the feasibility of implementing something and you could later on determine what the number of days that would be appropriate. And again, we would literally go down your list of items or the items that come out of the council motion, and we would address them one by one. It may be that we don't come back directly with an ordinance. Maybe we provide a24 from or something that could elaborate and give some of the preliminary responses that we found and get further direction. So all of those are possible ways that we could address it and bring you back something that is really responsive to the council direction. That's great. So we wouldn't start collecting any totty or anything until this council gives a direction with an ordinance. That is correct. I just want to clarify that for for everybody. Well, actually, that's a little bit different than what the staff recommendation currently is. So we are asking for authorization to enter into the contract to start collecting those based on what is there today. So we had held off on that for a long time while we went through this policy process over a year and a half. We did put a small amount of money into the FOIA 19 budget, and so the staff recommendation tonight is to start collecting that total. We can certainly wait, but then that would have some financial impact. So I want to make that clear. Let me let me clarify one thing also, because I think it's important. So the council voted as a body to include revenues from Airbnb as we balanced the budget in this last cycle. And so I just want to make sure that one that we're aware that that is something that is being expected through the general fund at the same time. There I think there is there's interest, which I support, which I support. And having a discussion about how as the ordinance comes back, how and if we should be dedicating some of those funds and how those are dedicated. And so I think that's a conversation we should have and and I support. But mindful of the fact that we already made the decision to include some of those funds that are going to be coming in for other general fund purposes. So I just want. Yes, that's correct. Fire engines can't spend the money. We don't have it yet. So I think that, you know, in the very beginning, I wanted to make sure that we weren't collecting money before we regulated. And I had that very honest conversation with the platforms as well from the very beginning. I don't want to get us into not wanting to regulate too much because we've got some money already. I'm going to stop there. I think I've said a lot and I want to hear where the council colleagues are. But, you know, I think a fine balance in between protecting our rental market and ensuring that we are able to have a tie to that market is going to be key. So what's going to be important for me again, is really understanding the nexus with the affordable housing, where those funds could go and how we're going to use those. Thank you. Notes on Pearce before we move forward. I know you didn't phrase that necessarily in the form of a motion, although it's on the monitor. Was that meant to be a motion basically for staff to begin preparing an ordinance that we will bring back, that incorporate the items that you talked about and possibly more. With friendly amendments? I would honestly, because the way that this has been presented, it's been a little bit difficult to have a full conversation, I think. So I like the Linda Tatum's, you know, put an end to from for let us make sure that we have that data and then come back with an ordinance. So that would be be the process I would prefer. So I just want to I just want to caution us that let's I think actually, Councilwoman, that we are on our way pretty I think your comments were fine. And I think. They should they should a. Draft an ordinance. But I think we need to see some information before that ordinance comes back to us. And that's you know, that certainly can be expected. I just want to make sure that we are coming out of here with some direction about where we need to go. Yes. So, yes, I think so. I think then that. That helps out. So we read all the things you just said as your motion. So to adopt kind of the staff recommendations option to with the following changes that we talked about. And if I need to read them, I can read them for the for the body later. So we have those written down. So we would understand that to be a motion. Thank you. Okay. Well, let's keep going to. Prepare a draft ordinance and bring information. Back. And there's still might be conversations about the ordinance itself. Let's let's keep let's keep going. So we have a we have a base. Councilman Price. Thank you, Mr. May. And thank you to staff for your excellent presentation and the great work that you've put into this over the last over one year. I really appreciate the engagement. I appreciate the inclusion from every council district. And I want to thank my residents who have come out to community meetings, ones that I've hosted in ones that the city have hosted, who have provided petitions, who have provided us with comments and been very engaged in this topic. I'm very appreciative of that input. Personally, I do want to hear from my colleagues, but personally I'd like to move forward with an ordinance motion tonight, certainly something that we can tweak when it comes back for first reading. But I think that asking my I mean, I have residents here who've been here all night. It's late and expecting them to come back for a another meeting to, you know, talk about these issues a lot, again, is just really a lot to ask. So I'd like us to at least have some direction on where we're headed tonight. And I know Councilwoman Pierce has put a lot of work into this, and I appreciate her collaboration as well on this. I agree with all of her recommendations as to option two. And one of the things that she and I talked about and I know she didn't mention really tonight, but I want to highlight is I know I appreciate that that staff put them into different options for us because it was for the ease of discussion. But I think as you'll find, there will be things that we liked about one or the other that we want to mix around. So I don't I want to understand that the option to is not going to look much like your option. Once we're done with it tonight, probably. So one of the things so I have a couple of questions before I share some of my thoughts on this. In regards to the option three, which is really option two with the additional provision that it would allow communities, small sex sections or communities, however they're geographically defined, to be able to petition similar like we do with parking preferred preferential parking districts with two thirds vote to be able to limit the short term rentals in those communities. So my understanding is we cannot those communities, even with two thirds vote, could not prohibit hosted testers. Is that correct? That is correct. They would be prohibiting any unhosted short term rentals. Okay. And that's because we have access priorities with the coastal areas and things of that nature. That is correct. Okay. I will say I've heard from so many residents, both hosts, as well as residents who are neighbors to skiers. I don't I have not yet once seen an issue with a hosted short term rental where the resident, the owner is in the house and they're doing more of a home sharing type concept. That doesn't seem to be the issue. The issue in terms of quality of life impacts tends to be when the entire house or property is rented. Unhosted. And so that's the the issue that I think neighborhoods would want to try to mitigate if they could. The other question that I had is I want to hear staff's thoughts on the idea of requiring a business license if it's a hosted ACR and the homeowner or occupant is at the home during the rentals. Why would it be necessary for them to get a business license? I think what you heard us earlier just with the city attorney's response, is that we recognize that there is a something of a conflict now between our initial recommendation and realizing that currently long term rentals only require a business license if it's four or more. And we think that it's an appropriate fix to go back and just make them equal. So if it's anything less than three units, then I think we would certainly be exploring not having a business license as a requirement. And I think maybe something else to think about when you come back with that is I think there's a real difference between Unhosted and hosted in terms of the business license. So so what I'm saying is that if it's a hosted and the person's in the home and renting out a room in the home, why would they need to get a business license if they're using it as a vacation rental and, you know, exclusively renting it out, then it is more of a business operation than just sharing their home. So, Councilwoman Price, one reason that you might want to have them get a business license is for tracking purposes. Mm hmm. So that you can make sure that you're collecting the total for each of those. So the idea would be that they may get a business. We may require them to get a business license, but not charge the business license tax. For tracking purposes. I see. I see. So if there was a way to maybe call it a STR registration or something like that, as opposed to a business license that might be more appropriate. And I think that's what some other cities have done. We could look at that. Okay. Um, you know, so one of the things that I would like, I'm going to make a friendly to the motion and I've talked with Councilman Pearce about it. I would like neighborhoods to have the option to limit or ban Unhosted stickers if they get sufficient signatures. But I would like the staff recommendation when it comes back. So that would be option three to some degree, even though we're now modifying option two. So it's kind of a blank slate at this point, but it would be whatever we agree on with option two, but allowing neighborhoods to opt out. But I think we need further clarification on what that geographic boundary would look like in terms of the neighborhoods. Certainly, we don't want to be we don't want to make the neighborhood so big that it's impossible to obtain two thirds of a vote. But we also don't want to make it too small. So that block by block, we have different regulations because that's very difficult. So I would like that to be included as an option of for staff to come back with a recommendation on what a reasonable geographic limitation would look like. And again, it's only for Unhosted. So I don't know if that's a friendly that. You accept? Well. I'd like to hear from the city attorney, and then that's included as part of our back. Well, it's going to be an ordinance back, I think. So it would be helpful to get direction tonight if we don't get direction tonight specifically on that issue, we would definitely assuming that the friendly is accepted. We would bring back as part of the ordinance some form of geographic boundary with the justification for why we chose that particular geographic boundary and council after first reading, if the boundary we drew was too big or too small, you could certainly give us direction to go back. This is such a complex area. I mean, it would be great if we could get it passed on first reading. I'm not really anticipating that, so I'm sure we'll be making a couple of other tweaks and this could be one of them, but we'll bring back some boundary. Can I address the friendly just quickly? Sure. Yeah. So I think I want to make sure that we are not taking a whole section of our city off the market, thus creating a pressure on, say, my district. So. So that's why I like to see what you guys come up with. I would, you know, if it's a very small pocket versus a census tract, which tends to be a little bit larger. And I'd like to hear from my council colleagues. I also think there might be some comments down the road around 80 years and stuff like that. So I'd like to hear everybody's comments on what units they feel like are appropriate before we kind of say like, put this in stone in the ordinance. And so, as I understood Councilwoman prices friendly, it wouldn't take anything off the completely off the map. It would simply limit it to allow it to to be were it have to be a hosted facility. So they would in all areas of the city, there would be something or there possibility for something, but in some areas it might have to be hosted. So this would be would you be talking about non primary or primary? Primaries would always be allowed. It is the be unhosted that would not be allowed if we got the approval, the geographic. Approval to opt out. Okay. Can I add this one thing? I know that we have a Councilwoman Pierce, so I think there is an opportunity because I view this this component of the ordinance important because I understand what you're saying. I do think there is probably a way of crafting that piece that Councilman Price is talking about in a way that could work. I mean, at the end of the day, we are this council is not going to be banning these stars in these neighborhoods because legally it's not an option. So I think the next question then becomes how how are you able to create a policy where you can have some neighborhood input on what happens? But but yet recognizing that we don't want it to be a situation where if a community is all homeowners and they can, you know, all us dealers can get banned, but then how do other communities do the same thing? So I think we can I think staff can find a some creative ideas or solutions and on getting us there because I think it's a concern that we had heard before was a complete ban. And I think what's what's being discussed now is not a ban. It's really trying to target the non hosted sites right that were there aren't local Long Beach homeowners but as we know, these are oftentimes some are local folks, but oftentimes they are purchased from other folks that are just renting out or Airbnb being their house from from afar. So is there a way, Mike, as I'm actually interested in this component as well, is there a way of of coming up with some best practices on how we would do this option that Councilman Price and Pearce are talking about? Mayor, I think where we would start with best practices, we take a look in those coastal cities that have dealt with this issue already and see what the Coastal Commission has actually permitted those cities to do. And from the coastal cities that I've looked at so far that have gotten approval from the Coastal Commission, it seems to be a situation where they do allow cities to limit it to hosted only, and that seems to be best practice. Maybe council member Urunga has more information than that, but I think that would be one of the best practices that we would have a legal ordinance. So look, start there. Because I think that I'm glad you brought up the Coastal Commission. I think the coastal question because this would have to go to Coastal four four for that approval. That's right. So I think I'd be interested in that as well. I think if if if this is happening in other coastal cities, it is. And I don't think that's an unreasonable opportunity for homeowners. Sure. Give me 1/2, councilor. So so I do I would like more information if we're able to come up with a way of doing it, I think I don't I don't see the harm in that. So just this was just my $0.02. Councilmember Pearce. I just think that that's something we can explore. So let me go. Councilmember Ringa. I just want to make a quick. Interjection since it was brought up. And my name was mentioned as part of the Coastal Commission. I forwarded a a. Best practice. Ordinance that was adopted by Pismo Beach a while back, which was recognized by the Coastal Commission as an exemplary type of ordinance that was that fit all the criteria that we're talking about here tonight in terms of stars in a coastal zone area. So I think that that's something that you might want to look at in terms of a of a best practice example along the coast. And of course, because of how we're set here, we're not we're a coastal city, but we have, you know, our coastline, our coastal zone, the coast. What about a mile, mile and a half, two miles. And, you know, other areas are a lot bigger than that because it's completely a beach city. So, I mean, I think that would be an excellent starting point for looking at how we can address the coastal zone part of of this ordinance, because it's going to be obviously bifurcated to a great extent because of the inner inland areas where we have these issues as well as the coast. So it just that I'll put it in there and maybe something that you can look at. So let me go back to Councilmember Pearce and Price. I know that there was a a friendly on on that issue. And so I think we're going to have staff bring that back as part of what's coming back. Okay. All right. Well, if you accept that, that's okay. Because of what price for you. And mayor, just to clarify that, is that just to look at the one best practice. Is that says limiting on hosted or is it also for us to look at different ways to achieve that same you know, to to do that. I mean there might be other ways such as. I think I think it's both. I mean, I think you want to give us tell us how we open. To other ways to just make sure that we we're addressing it. Okay. Understood. Yeah. And just on that note, I appreciate Councilman Aranguiz comments on this, because one of the things for coastal zones that's very unique is many of them have high density and parking impacts. And so when we have an hosted, then there is a potential there to have additional cars taking available spots on the street or even in the beach, lots and other noise and other types of impacts that that really are detrimental. Again, I think getting a petition by two thirds vote is much harder than a lot of people think. I mean, we see that with preferential parking districts or even when residents want to do like a one way street. Everyone always thinks everyone in their neighborhood thinks like them. But when it comes to them signing a petition, that's not always the case. But I think neighborhoods having that option to be able to have a meaningful voice and what impacts they might have is good. It's a good option. And so I'd be interested to see what the best practices are. And my support of an ACR ordinance would most certainly include an option that allows residents to have a voice through a petition process. I like the sliding scale idea. I'm just sharing with my colleagues that I heard it for the first time tonight and I like it. I think it makes a lot of sense in terms of the number of units. I also like the 1% limitation. I mean. It's much more lucrative to have a short term rental than it is to have a long term rental. And what that does is it really limits the supply of long term rentals we have available, especially in the coastal zone, because there's so much money to be made per night for a short term rental in the coastal zone than to have a house that's, you know, workforce rates or affordable rates in the coastal zone. And so I think being mindful of the fact that we do want to have options for our residents to have housing that they can actually afford. They cannot compete with short term rental rates on a monthly basis. So I think having a 1% cap citywide is a good one. The the biggest problem that I see with any ordinance that we establish is enforcement. You know, I don't want us to be in the position where right now we have a ban on SDR, someone , a resident, calls us and has a complaint. The burden is totally on them to go and investigate, you know, find the listing, take pictures, you know, be the be very, you know, slick and identifying and grabbing evidence. It puts our residents in a very difficult situation where they're in a. Conflict situation with people who might be staying in the house next door to them. I don't want to do that. So whatever we do and I'm I've talked with Councilwoman Pierce about that, Councilmember Pierce about this. I like the idea of coming back and talking about the enforcement piece in a more detailed and robust way, because I think it's generally touched upon. But but I'd really like to understand how are we going to enforce this? And I'd like the taxes that are collected to go right back into enforcement, at least a part of them. I anticipate the taxes that would be collected would. Would exceed the. Costs that would we would need for one or two people to help enforce. And where that money goes in up above the enforcement mechanism, I'd love to hear my colleagues thoughts, but at the very least, we should be putting that tax money into enforcement mechanisms. And really, I do. I fully expect that whatever option council comes back with will include the platform to work with the city. I know there's pending lawsuits going on. I'll be watching those very closely. But the platforms have to be part of this process and engaged with the city. It can't just be completely our burden if we don't have full access to data. So I'm open to seeing how, how what that looks like and and whether there's third party vendors, which I'm hearing is an opportunity for us to be able to work with maybe a third party vendor to help us collect some of the data . I'm open to all of that, but to me, a partnership between the platforms and the city should be something more concrete. What is that going to look like? And so I, I fully support Councilmember Pierce's recommendation that staff meet with the platforms more than just the main platform that's come forward and engaged with us, which I'm grateful for, but with all of them, because it's also not fair to put all the burden on the largest platform. That's not fair to that platform either. There are a lot of different platforms, and everybody should be sharing in this in this process of setting forth policies and procedures. So I think we do need to come back with a more robust and specific enforcement plan. So those are my thoughts, and I look forward to hearing from my colleagues. Whatever we do. I'm hoping that this council is supportive of us coming back in about a year or so and really using this as a pilot period so that we can figure out what's working and what's not working. Have there been impacts in neighborhoods as a result of this ordinance that we need to address? So I look forward again to hearing your thoughts on that as well. Thank you. Councilman Mongo. Thank you. I want to start by addressing a comment from the audience regarding a survey that says I put online. I actually went out into the audience and saw the survey. It was not conducted by my office. But I do appreciate that neighborhood associations have taken the time to put surveys out there. It would also be helpful, though, when they do put those surveys out there that they communicate the results to our offices because we actually didn't have access to that private survey. So it was very interesting information and I appreciate the dialog and thank you very much. I want to kind of just start with an overarching discussion on. Buying a home is your one of your largest, most likely your largest financial investment of your life? And the number one thing that I have learned as a council member is the most important decision you make in buying a house is not how many bedrooms, it's not how many bathrooms. It's not any of that. It's who are your neighbors? The number one complaint that I get is I bought a house across the street from a park, but I didn't realize there would be cars and people in the park all summer or I bought a house across the street from a school in the summer and I didn't realize that when school started there'd be pick up and drop off and my driveway would be blocked or these things. And when I bought a house next door, I didn't realize I lived next to the the grumpy person in the neighborhood. And now I know why they're divorced three times. These are actual comments our office gets. And part of that goes to it's about who your neighbor is. And so we currently have a short term rental in our neighborhood that used to be a long term rental that had a horrible tenant. And so the neighborhood is like jumping for joy that it's a short term rental. Now, however, there are other circumstances where there were wonderful neighbors that live there and they were not renewed on their lease. And now it is a short term rental in that neighborhood. And that street particularly is very upset because they don't want a short term rental. So it's all about what you had before and what you have now in that comparison and knowing and understanding and whether you live next door to people who own their home, people who rent a home, whether they're visitors through a platform, whether you live near a park or a school, every single thing brings different pluses and different minuses. And so I think it's a good starting point. I would love for the ordinance to be as simple as possible. I agree with some of my colleagues who have stated if it's overly complicated, it's hard to monitor, it's hard to enforce, and it's hard for us to really get our arms around to explain to people who may want to get into this market, people who may need this money. I mean, I'm fortunate that my mom was here with me tonight and she was in the back and we were watching the meeting together. And I was kind of talking through her with her what what it would look like if she turned her rental property into an Airbnb and why people do it and what the platforms look like. And we were kind of doing that in context with the comments on the floor. We really appreciate all the comments tonight, so many well-informed neighbors, but there are a lot of people in that age group who could benefit that don't understand it because our ordinance could potentially be too complicated. So I'm all in favor of simplifying if the sliding scale is used or the 1% is used, all of those are great . I have a short statement that I want to read that I compiled after reading through the emails and talking to the neighbors that I was able to get to, many of you know, I didn't get to everyone. It's a heavy night on agenda items, so I had a lot of people. Short term rentals can have a big impact on neighborhoods and cities, both positive and not so positive. And as we've seen in the public comment tonight and in the news, we need to be aware of both sides of the issue. So because of that, I'd like to make a friendly amendment. I'd like to direct staff to track the implementation of whichever ordinance we pass and the impacts of the stars, including the number of registrations, the number of complaints, resolutions to the complaints, total tax received, and other relevant data that can be reviewed at a council meeting in October of 2019. So we'll have the data from last summer included in that and then we can see the full impact over several months. And then at that time we can say we love it the way it is. We'd like to make the following tweaks, we'd like to get rid of it altogether and all of those. So now that we would all at least be on the same page, that whatever we pass, let's be invested in making it the best we can, and let's continue to learn through that process so that a year from now , or a little less than a year from now, we can sit down and have a talk about where we've made the mistakes and what improvements we can make, but that we're all on the same page to know that another set of changes could come and what that timeline is, so that we can all be in a position to plan our future, because this type of ordinance impacts people's finances, and that's a really important concept. So I would hope that the maker of the motion would be open to that. Yes, definitely open to that. I have a couple of questions that you mentioned from last October. From now to next October? From now until next October. Okay. And I think whenever we talked about that third party verification group, I think staff will really find that there's a plethora of ways to track data daily that on on any day you could pull up the dashboard and see where we're at on that day. And so I wholeheartedly support that for sure. I think if I can add just two points to that, we can we can certainly do some of that. When an ordinance is in place, it's going to be easier for us to get that data. So right now, we don't really get a lot of the complaints that we get some, but we don't really hear about everything . We also don't have much of a way to track them without paying a consultant, which we did as part of this effort. And they, you know, it was it was a pretty intensive effort over three weeks. So the more this occurs, once the ordinance goes into effect, the easier it is on staff. But we can do our best to bring you back what we can. So if we could say a year from the day that the ordinance was implemented, that we have 12 months. So the reason that I was hoping to do October of 2019 is because one budget and two, we also would get through the summer months, which for short term rentals are really the bulk here. I mean, if it was Palm Springs, our bulk of months would be the January through March. But in Long Beach, coastal city, it's really summer. So I was hoping that summer would have passed. They would have had a short amount of time to gather that and bring it back to us so that we would be able to make some strong decisions. So I'm fine with bringing it back in October for the budget. I think as we move forward to having that year evaluation, at least for the first three years, where every year we're looking at it and assessing it, our housing market's going to change drastically in the next several years or so. And in future years I'm open for it to come back as a two from four like that. It wouldn't have to be a full council meeting, but I think in this first review period to have that additional open comment from the community and engagement is just really crucial. Absolutely. So we will bring back by October 2019 what we what we know, what we have based on the information we have, knowing that it may not be as robust as we'd like. And then once the ordinance goes into effect, we would do an annual review with the information that was requested. So my next comment kind of goes to one of the first items I brought to the City Council. When elected in 2014, I brought a refund of your business license to the table because one of the things I feel strongly about is, one, getting all the businesses above board where they all have the licenses. And then also if you're going to open a new opportunity in our city that we would not want to burden you with those cost in their first two years. So we did that business license. We tried to do a waiver, but the city attorney advised us we could do a refund of those fees. And we we instituted a policy where we would refund your fees. But I do believe that registration is key. Not everyone uses the same platforms, whether you're using a far below or Airbnb or whatever. Some people register their homes on multiple sites for multiple types of renters that are looking in different sites. And so for that, I feel that the registration process is really important so that we can track better. I'm supportive of a reduced fee or zero out fee on some of them. It's interesting to talk about 1% of our housing stock. We don't even know what the housing stock of Long Beach is. If you call the county assessor and ask how many units are in Long Beach, they cannot tell you because it's so complicated. So the registration process would at least get us to a point to kind of know, but we need it to be as simple as possible. And so I'm really supportive of a registration. I'm also really supportive of a warning and then a very severe penalty if you don't register, because otherwise there's no incentive to get on board. And we've seen this in Manhattan Beach and some of the coastal cities that people are hiding their addresses and moving things around and and really trying to hide under underneath the radar. We need to be above the radar. I would also say that if the platform is not willing to work with us, they shouldn't be able to book locally. There's so many opportunities with local platform or with these platforms that they could collect the tax for us. They theoretically could even do the registration for us. But it gets more complicated when people are registered on multiple sites. You don't want people to have to pay multiple registration. So with that, I'd also like to warn the Council Against and I know we talk about this and Mr. GROSS or as he called himself earlier, Mr. Sunshine is not here right now. I am completely supportive of bringing back a component of adding staffing once revenues hit certain targets. But I would be careful about directing staffing. I'm sorry, directing revenues, as we've heard about with the directed revenues we were doing for marijuana, they haven't come in as planned. There's all sorts of different fluctuations. So if we think a staff member is needed, just pass a staff member from the general fund and just call it what it is. And in the future, then you still have that flexibility to add or subtract as you go. So I would just generally as chair of budget oversight and having heard Mr. GROSS say it, probably at every meeting we've ever had with him, I'm just going to say it for him so that he doesn't have to do it next time that he warns against that. And I support that warning. Lastly, about the option three, add on from Councilman Price. I appreciate that. In our neighborhoods, we have some problem neighbors and whether there are short term rental or whatever the case may be of what causes them to be a problem. What I wouldn't want to do, though, is I have a street. Let's just say we went with a 20 foot radius. So you take a house within 2000 feet. That's where you'd have to do the petition. What I wouldn't want to do is say like a housing track. And if this housing tract votes no, all houses in the track are banned. What I would like to do is if you have a bad player to be able to collect the signatures to get them to go away. Kind of like the dog barking. And the reason I say that is if you have a home housing track that has three good Airbnbs or FRB, far or whatever, short term rentals, and then you have one bad actor and that petition circulates. It takes the income away from three people who might be snowbirds or other things. And so I just want to. I want to hit a nail on the head. I don't want a pepper spray a problem, if that makes sense. I mean, this is the problem. Whac-A-Mole. Move on to the next problem. If I could do that with some of the other neighborhood issues we have, it would be so much easier. But I would also like it to be an easier process than our current barking dog complaint process because that people are not fulfilled and not able to resolve their issues. So I want to just make sure that we kind of look at that and how it's directed to the one person. So that would be my feedback and appreciate the discussion. Thank you. Thank you very much, Councilman Richardson. Thank you, Vice Mayor. So a couple of things. So, number one, the turnout in the public testimony clearly shows that this you know, this is an issue that people care about pocketbook issues. So we'll take it with the utmost seriousness. And so I acknowledge all of you for coming out. I also acknowledge Airbnb for coming to the table because I understand there are multiple platforms that engage here. So that needs to be acknowledged. And given that it's a pocketbook issue. I'd like to just frame and say that, you know, the narratives that I hear about are the narratives of abuse. You know, take an entire, you know, entire buildings and turn them into pseudo motels. I think this ordinance, what it puts forward, prevents those apartment motels apart tales of different different ways of referring to these things. So I think that's good. It addresses abuse. The other thing I hear about is the speculation someone who was not a Long Beach resident, you know, owning, you know, five, six, seven properties in other cities and are simply speculating. And, you know, the problem with that for me is that those revenues generated. They're not you know, there have been if anyone in Long Beach, they're not staying in Long Beach. And that's that's you know, I don't think that we should be in that business and we should be keeping our properties as our housing market as stable as possible. So anything we can do to limit that speculation, I clearly support. But also say that there's value in having Long Beach residents and working with Long Beach residents if it's unhosted. You know, this policy is going to change over time. So you want to build up some. You want to give them a shot to see what they can do in terms of maintaining a standard of quality, quality of life and responding to their neighbors when there's a complaint and in following and monitoring this ordinance and not necessarily attempting to game the system so that I think there's value in that. I also think, you know, when I saw that map, the great majority of these properties, they're down in districts two in District three. And I think the two council members are doing a pretty good job understanding each one of those issues. And I think that's great. And so I just want to make sure that, you know, you know, the few just north of them that I think those are families that are just, you know, trying to make ends meet or have an extra room or going from, you know, their first home to their second home. I think we should make sure that as new technologies emerge, as these disruptive technologies emerge, we we make sure that it's accessible to working families as well and that they can benefit from this these economic opportunities. So I do want to want to lift that up. Speaking of local, in meeting with them and meeting with individuals, some of the hosts that came in, you know, I heard stories about how they're you know, they're proud to highlight different attributes about their neighborhood and proud to highlight, you know, where to get your groceries or where to get local food. And I see a big opportunity here for the city to partner with these hosts and with Airbnb to create. And well, I shouldn't say the idea yet, but the idea here is that let's create some some real local partnership to support local businesses. And and, you know, we can think about partnering with Kiva businesses. It's the businesses we're supporting through crowdfunding. That's when the community comes together to support and deploy resources, these small businesses. There are other things we can do, like leverage new technology to also support these small businesses. So I think in this too, from in this report back, I'd like for staff to do some thinking about leveraging this power that was just created through this platform to really amplify the local business, the local impact for those local, local businesses. And so, Councilwoman Pearce, I know we chatted a little bit about that. Is that something you'd like to think you would include in your motion? Absolutely. I love it. Absolutely. Great. Thank you. Just the policy points that I'll call out that sound that sound good to me. The concept of the registry, you know, we've got a lot of experience in registries in our city. You know, we were involved in creating the foreclosure registry, the vacant lot monitoring registry, you know, the vacant building registry. So there's experience there. And I think this makes sense in this particular case and in the foreclosure registry case, you have almost full compliance from the banks on the foreclosure registry because they threatened of a fine and they've never had to actually levy the fine. It was $1,000 a day fine to banks who leave these foreclosures in your neighborhood, you know, with, you know, vagrancy and weeds and all these things, they've never had to find a bank because the banks responded by just by the threat of a of a fine. And so that makes sense. Having a registry makes sense. I think the 1.1% cap on the house or the housing market, that that does acknowledge the housing stocks on the search situation with the housing crisis. So that makes sense. I think what Councilwoman Pierce said about taking a good look at evaluating whatever the verification process is makes sense. I look forward to hearing what comes back there. One question about the shift from 25% to 10%, just from a practical standpoint, when I think 25% of 25% can be rented out, I think in a four unit, that means one unit. I think 10%. I think of a bigger building. So how would a 10%, you know, we should think about how does 10% happen when it's less than ten units? So one of my concerns outside of a duplex is that those units that are 8 to 10 are typically what somebody like me would run versus somebody that owns a condo on Ocean Boulevard that is a bigger unit. Therefore, those condos are probably higher cost. And you're not removing a lower cost housing? No, I get that. What I'm talking about is 10% of a eight unit is not a full unit. So what happens if. Right. What happens if it's a fraction? Right. The 25% means at least I get a Lexus. At least one unit. Mm hmm. Right. So I think maybe up to ten, you got to say 25%, and then it turns into ten after that. So I think they get to there. So they're sliding scale point. So they're going to present to us the sliding scale. I think it'll fix that time. That makes sense when I'm when I'm saying to get two. Whole units and round up. But definitely look at different ways of that that we are we do think about that a 10% of a four simply before doesn't even get you. Yes. So we do want to look at that in the slide. And we're going. To rule out when I Airbnb out the bathroom. Great. Well, look, it seems like this conversation is headed in the right direction. I know that there's a lot of interest. I know that the majority are in two districts. But let's be frank. All of you have lobbied all nine of us. And so there are expectations that we become familiar with this policy. We understand it because this won't be the first time that we see it. And I know that there will be changes, but it seems like things are heading in the right direction and I'm supportive of the direction we're heading. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman Gonzales. Yes. It's been a long night that thanks, everybody, for hanging in there. Everybody did such a great job and I think my council colleagues, Pearce and Price for their comments on this issue. So I'm certainly of the mindset as well. You know, obviously this is a huge disruptor in the market and with a disrupter, we often sometimes turn to regulation and we don't often have to do that. But I think I'm sort of in this middle space. I come from downtown, everybody loves R&B, Airbnbs and downtown, but we have to do so mindfully and with respect to the community. And we absolutely hear that tonight. First and foremost, I want to say the housing and business opportunities to individuals and the city of Long Beach, you know, looks good with this. The 12% total, obviously, is is something that was mandated by voters. I would just like to reiterate the points of of ensuring that what the information we get back I do want to support affordable housing in any way we can, whether it's through the linkage fee or the 6% that we if we can create that or add that to an existing housing trust fund, that would be ideal, in my sense, to to do that. I think this is the whole gist of of what everybody is talking about on both sides. That's the first and foremost thing. Second thing related to affordable housing that I just had a question on and I wasn't clear in the presentation. ADDUCE Does that include new ADU use or is it existing? Adus Because I have an issue with just the state's loosening of reforms on adus. It. Looking forward. It was proposed to include any idea whether it's existing or new. They would both be treated as an idea, new or. Proposed. Okay. So on the ad use, Councilwoman Gonzalez, we currently, as you know, banned them in the ADA ordinance for short term rental purposes. So if we bring something back that where you want to include ADOS as part of the, you know, acceptable uses for short term rental, we'd have to bring back to edu ordinance and amend that as well. I just wanted to make sure we banned it from my memory that we did banned it. We didn't do ordinance when it came out. Okay. Just making sure of that because it was unclear in the presentation. It just included adus for primary residents and I thought that was. So is that existing then? ADOS. I'm just making sure. I'm just trying to clarify it. So our current. Ordinance, we require everybody that gets an approved EDU to sign a document that certifies that they will not use it for short term rentals. Okay. So then I just want to because the presentation says, the staff report says a bit differently. So that's why I want to make sure we're on the same page to ensure that. So that is the case. So current law right now, if you have an EDU, you're not allowed to have a short term rental. And it just is you actually are not allowed to have a short term rental anywhere in Long Beach. So when you did the ADU ordinance, we banded so that you would have the ability to make a decision in the future going forward. We are recommending in the options that an edu be an allowable use so that it would be allowed to be a short term rental. We would consider that a hosted model so that you're actually because you're on site and that's in your backyard or or however it's. Attached at this point that we're suggesting. Okay, we're suggesting that it be considered part of the hosting now. So that would be something the council would vote on and decide to include or not include. Yeah. So I would just. I would just like us to think about. The existing, you know, grandfathering those in and then any additional because I just feel a little awkward in creating additional ADOS that we've loosened reforms on that were intended for affordable housing that we're now putting on the market for short term rentals. That's where I feel a little. A little off with, you know, what we've made in past policy decisions so. Council when it wasn't clear is your proposal that any new ADOS not be allowed as hosted ACR? Is that what you're saying? Well, here's what I'm yes, I'm I'm going in that direction. But I'd like to get some numbers on what how many of the ideas that we have got permits that we've received so far, and we can make that determination at that. Okay. I just I feel a little shaky on that, just given the fact that we had that policy specifically for affordable housing. Thank you. Okay. And then the next is, I believe in the consistency with noise and events. I think noise and events should be consistent all around. Whether you're a homeowner, that doesn't the long term, short term doesn't matter. Absolutely. That needs to be consistent whether no matter what. And on the parking situation, I was actually looking into the city of Palm Springs and I was unclear as we talked about parking and not being able to regulate parking the city of Palm Springs. I believe if you have a short term rental and or want to host an event which we don't have here, but especially for just in general short term rentals, they have a plan where you are allowed one car per room. So if you have four rooms. You're allowed four cars. That's it. I think that to me seems like a reasonable suggestion, but I don't know what that looks like on the enforcement side. I know that they're given a parking permit. And I know you had mentioned something about. Zoning. I think that's something we can go back and take a hard look at, particularly we'll look at the Palm Springs ordinance. I think I just want to acknowledge that might be problematic because once a unit is is approved and it's already up, it essentially has its land use approvals. And I don't know that we could ask for additional parking spaces just by virtue of it becoming a short term rental unit. But we can certainly look at that and we'll bring you back some suggestions based upon what I think is the direction you're going. Yes. And I just think that would be, I think, alleviate a lot of the neighborhood issues, especially in parking impacted neighborhoods. I think everything else we've covered the highway outreach. I'm just personally interested in that. A lot of houses have kind of back and forth said that they do want stars. So I'm just interested in knowing whether this information will live on our website like fake news, how that will look outwardly. I know a lot of other cities just have that available and I think that it needs to live somewhere. Just for clarity, once we get this all figured out. And then lastly, a lot more platform accountability, data access. I'm also just very curious as to what the lawsuits will provide. I also think we just got to be, you know, just tread a little lightly here. We have bad actors in every industry, even in this. You know, I've advocated for many years the apartment association knows the slumlords that exist in my my district. I want us to be as proactive on them as we are on the bad actors here in Airbnb, which I know are very few. But, you know, I just want to say that and ensure that we're consistent in all respects. So thank you so much, everybody. Thank you very much, Councilmember Pearce. I still have a long list of things to go through. Okay. First, I want to. Make some clarifying points. Can you speak about the Mello Act and how that might impact short term rentals in the coastal zone? I know not everybody up here is a mellow eyed fan, but you are aficionado. That. That is currently on our work program and we have the. In looking at the the 29 housing policies and that's something we are just starting to to scratch the surface. So we will be looking at that really carefully. And I think the first step is to probably do a24 from and just bring you back to current status of where we are on that. Great. And just including how stars might be affected in the memo as well. To the point of the eighth use, I just want to say I like I like the idea of grandfathering in those that exist now and limiting those in the future, because that was done as a as an attempt to get more affordable housing and to increase our housing supply. I also wanted to clarify. I know that we have some different language and how we're talking about hosted and hosted versus primary resident and not primary resident. And so making sure that when we talk about excluding areas of non unhosted that we're talking about non primary residence of people that don't live in those buildings. Going to Councilmember Price's point. That's how staff understands it. Yes. Okay. And then also the 1% I know when I spoke with staff earlier and I wanted to make sure it was clarified that the 1% is for non primary residents. That would make up two to that point that you guys had that as well. Oh, so that wasn't clear. So 1% is only on non primary residents, so you could go above the 1% if you. Live in your home and you're. Understood you can write that in there. Yeah, that's clear. And then the part that I'm totally left off, even though I did have it in my notes as I wanted and I've talked to many groups about this was also including in the enforcement, the private right of action, an administrative subpoena. And so I think that those are the things that we're comfortable with now. And knowing that when you guys come back, we'll talk about the data and we'll talk about the the fines and penalties. As it relates to two platforms, if that is the case. And with that, I'm very excited, guys. I hope that we can. I look forward to getting lots of data and reevaluating this a year. And I want to say how much I appreciate staff, particularly with working with me today. I know I was very busy in meetings and committees and trying to to process some of this. So again, thank you guys very much for coming and meeting with us and working with us. And I really do think that this is going to be something that protects housing, that gives the city, you know, a path forward. So thank you. Thank you so much, Councilman Price. Thank you. Just briefly, I do want to clarify the the petition the neighborhood petition option that that I'm envisioning is different than petitioning to get a bad actor removed because the bad actor would come as a result of the fines and penalties where the final penalty is that you can't operate an SDR for a period of time , like a year or something. What I would hate for us to do is have neighbors petitioning against a particular home owner. I just think that's a really could be a confrontational situation. The petition concept that I'm talking about is the option three. So I just want to understood. Thank you. Well, we we do have a motion in a second. And I want to just add that I think this conversation is actually going in a really good direction. I think there's a lot of information that we're getting back. It's clear that that both those that are those that are hosting want to be regulated and want to follow the rules and want to be a part of of the process. And it's also clear that regulations are needed so that we are following what all other cities are doing around Airbnb. And we also know from those of us that use Airbnb, that the services that's being provided by many folks is, is really great service. And people many people are choosing not to stay in a traditional hotel experience because they want to be in a neighborhood or they want a different experience. And so I appreciate that that interest people appreciate that there is so much interest in Long Beach. And at the same time, I want to thank those I've talked to a lot of Airbnb hosts that are also understand the issues around housing and understand the issues that that we have around availability of housing stock. And so the conversations around funding and how we get to bringing some some additional revenue to address those issues, I think are also important. So just think, everybody, we do have a master motion on the floor. I think you have written it down as we as we went along, which I appreciate that, Mr. Modica. So please cast your votes and actually we'll do a roll call vote. I'm not sure if Councilman Austin is there, still is comfortable and he's got someone else. And so there you are. Okay. Okay. All right, let's start. Let's start with Councilwoman Gonzalez. Council Councilmember Pierce, Councilwoman Price, Councilmember Suber now. All right. Councilwoman Mongo. I. Councilmember Urunga. Councilman Austin. Hi. Councilmember Richardson. Motion carries.