Recommendation to approve the 2018-2022 Five-Year Consolidated Plan and Fiscal Year 2018 Action Plan for the Community Development Block Grant, Home Investment Partnership Grant, and Emergency Solutions Grant Funds; Approve the First Substantial Amendment to the Fiscal Year 2017 Action Plan, and the Second Substantial Amendment to the Fiscal Year 2016 Action Plan; and Authorize City Manager, or designee, to execute all necessary documents with the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development to receive these funds, execute agreements necessary to implement and comply with related federal regulations, and expend these funds for the purposes of implementing the Plans. (Citywide)
Motion case. Thank you. Item 30, please. Item is the report from Development Services recommendation to approve the 2018 through 2022 five year consolidated plan and Fiscal Year 2018 Action Plan for the Community Development BLOCK Grant. Home Investment Partnership Grant and Emergency Solutions Grant Funds City Wide. Thank you. Staff and Property. Development Services Director Amy Burke. Mr. Vice Mayor, members of the City Council, thank you very much. We are here today for your annual hearing on the CDBG action plan, but we're also here today for your annual your every five year report on the CDBG CDBG consolidated plan. I will need to get up and get the clicker. So hold on 1/2. If you could have the slide advanced, that would be great. One more before that. Thank you so much. Thank you. Okay. So we're here to talk about the federal funding program, CDBG home and the Emergency Solutions Grant Program. Those three programs come through development services and they are administered through our grants administration division. And I wanted to talk to you about what the consolidated plan is, how it relates to our housing element, etc.. So the chart behind you and for the audience shows that we're here today to discuss the consolidated plan in the annual action plan. But we feed into that information from our housing element and from our recently adopted assessment for for Fair Housing, which was also a federal housing and urban development requirement. CDBG funding has declined significantly since our high of almost $14 million in funding back in 2003. We get roughly 5.3 to $5.6 million a year right now, and that's what we will be getting for our fiscal year 18. We as this chart shows that we will be getting 5.5 million in CDBG, $491,000 for ESG, which is, again, the emergency services grant, and about $2.1 million for home for a total entitlement of 8.177. We are an entitlement city, which means that it is not a competitive process for us. And so we do have the ability to receive this money directly from HUD. Here is your CDBG eligible areas. Last a few months ago and we spent some time talking to you about our assessment for fair housing and racially and ethnically concentrated areas of poverty. Those areas are in black throughout the CDBG eligible areas, and then the areas within red are those areas where we're going to be focusing our new place based neighborhood improvement strategy areas. This place based neighborhood improvement strategy area is a new CDBG initiative. They are trying to focus our dollars in very specified areas to enhance our abilities to make noticeable improvements in the quality of those neighborhoods. Again, this slide shows you how we are required to include our five SFH goals into the Consolidated Plan. These are directives by HUD, and so we don't have a lot of opportunity to be creative in how we administer our consolidated plan. We are required to go through a HUD planning process. We are required to do an analysis based on census and the American community surveys. We're supposed to do social service records and consultation with agencies, a robust public input process define where gaps and services are defined, the eligibility for funding based on HUD rules, and then actually try to work through all of these processes to determine how to best spend our limited resources. So we went through an eight month public participation process that included door to door outreach, particularly in those recap areas. We had a multi-lingual housing and community needs survey. We did that both online and through hard copies. We had that in the four language access languages. We had workshops and community meetings, housing resource fair and a community forum. We did consultations and focus groups. We did a version of participatory budgeting in the recap areas. And then we had two public hearings and a study session at our Long Beach Community Investment Company, which is designated by the City Council for determining the use of the funding received by HUD grants. Couple of images of some of our community input process. And then here are the five community, the five priority areas that we're required to be focusing on in conjunction with our assessment for fair housing. Housing needs, homeless needs, economic development, community facilities and infrastructure. And then community services needs. We also have five common plan goals again affordable housing, homelessness, supporting activities that assist with basic needs and eliminate blight and or strengthen neighborhoods. Expanding economic opportunities. And then promoting fair housing choice. All of these go into our considerations as we are working through this process. So again, it's a combination of public input directives from HUD, our own research and analysis, and then the results of our assessment for fair housing. So in fiscal year 18, we are looking at allocating dollars to those five goals, and that is in your presentation as well as in the PowerPoint presentation behind you. We're going to continue to fund, for example, the Multi-Service Center in the same level that we are funding it right now. We're continuing programs like our Security Deposit Assistance Program, which actually helps people who may be able to afford rent but cannot come up with a security deposit. So we fund this program through the health department and through the Multi-Service Center. We spend money on emergency shelters, rapid rehousing, street outreach. We also spend dollars on new construction, acquisition and rehabilitation, particularly through our home dollars that we receive as well. You're probably familiar with our home improvement rebate program that we have the $2,000 home rebate program. We're proposing a new home improvement loan program in a $10,000 amount because the $2,000 just doesn't stretch far enough. The graffiti removal program would remain funded. We would continue to fund the Neighborhood Resource Center, the Neighborhood Leadership Program, which also gets outside resources, senior services, afterschool and weekend recreation programs. Code enforcement is a significant user of CDBG dollars. And when we spend money on code enforcement, that is only in those CDBG CDBG eligible areas. We're also funding the Sidewalk Improvement Project as part of our obligations. We have a tree planting program and then this targeted placemaking program is really in those place based neighborhood improvement areas that HUD is directing us to spend our resources in now for economic development. We are proposing we worked with the Economic and Property Development Bureau to come up with some ways to spend our dollars on economic development and there to continue to support the SPDC, the Small Business Development Center at Long Beach City College, providing a new line of credit loan program as well as a business revitalization program, specifically along corridors. And then number five is we are obligated by HUD to enter into contracts to promote fair housing choice. And so we do have an annual contract for Fair Housing Services and we do an RFP for those services. Right now, Fair Housing of Long Beach is providing those services for us. So with your consideration tonight, we would be approving the five year consolidated plan, the one year action plan for the $8.8 million in budget that we would be receiving from HUD. We would be submitting this report to HUD by the deadline of August 15th. If they certify it, it would be effective October one, and then our program year would begin October one as well. That completes my staff report. I and my staff are available to answer any questions. I want to point out that Alem Hagos and Liz Salcedo did an amazing amount of work on this and the assessment of fair housing over the last year in doing community outreach and putting together all of the prioritization areas and then, of course, complying with brand new HUD directives on very short notice. So with that, thank you for your consideration. Thank you. And before we go to the Council for comment, would you mind elaborating more on the new targeted program? I want to understand what that is. So HUD is basically suggesting that we go back to the the old concept of a neighborhood improvement strategy area. They're calling it place based initiatives. But what they're saying is that they want you to aggregate your resources in geographically concentrated areas that would be allowed to take advantage of naturally occurring improvements in those areas and then throwing additional resources into those areas to create more evidence of positive change. So can you be specific. In the areas or in. What like what tangible things are included in this? What, ten tangible activities. So what tangible activities? So some of it can be for those areas. Some of them may not have very strong leadership, very strong neighborhood leadership. So focusing on working with those neighborhood groups, defining what those neighborhoods need, some of them have commercial corners in there. So it might be a massive facade improvement program, specifically along that commercial corridor for that portion of the town. It could also be enhanced code enforcement if that's what that specific neighborhood needs. So it does depend on each of the neighborhoods and how we focus those resources in those neighborhoods. Thank you. I think I'll have more questions later, but we'll go to the council. Councilmember Pearce. I think you staff and thank you, Amy, for the good presentation. Can you elaborate a little bit of how the outreach and how you outlined it in here, but just how it's different this year versus previous years? Yes, we went door to door, which is something that we don't normally do. So we actually did fliers door to door specifically in those recap areas, which are the dark outlined areas and black trying to get people who typically do not participate in surveys or community meetings to get their feedback and interest. And so there was a lot of knocking and walking that we did. We also did a YouTube video. I'm not sure how many likes we have on it, but it was an additional attempt for us to try to communicate in a different way. And we had those videos translated as well, traditional community meetings. We did some forums, a resource fair. Where we brought other. Interested parties to participate and use that opportunity to educate people on what we were trying to do. And then, as I said, the online surveys and then the in-person surveys as well. Great things I really enjoyed whenever we met this week, hearing the stories from staff and how much they enjoyed going door to door. I know that none of these areas are in my district, but I think of those opportunities as a great opportunity to partner with the council offices so that we can help walk and talk and get some of our residents engaged in and knocking and talking to their neighbors as well. Can you answer for me? Do the changes to the subsequent one year action plans impact the five year consolidated plan? No. The five year consolidated plan is the umbrella plan. And then our one year plan has to be consistent with the five year plan. And is a five year plan of our subject to change in that five years, or is that just. It is. Actually even our one year plans are subject to change. So we do have amendments, I believe, proposed for this year, for this action item related to some of our other older action plans. If we make a change to funding for any of our action plans, we are now required to amend those action plans instead of just carrying over any excess revenue that we used to have. So in our action tonight, we are actually asking you to amend the 2016 and 2017 action plan as well as for specifically for infrastructure purposes. Great. Thank you so much. And now looking at 418 action plans, I know how much this council has talked about supporting activities and homelessness. And so it's great to see, you know, our action plan focused on that. So I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. Councilman Andrews. I'm sorry. Okay, Councilwoman. No, go. It it's been a while since we first started talking about this. I know that I had the opportunity to sit down with Miss Bodak on almost a year ago when you were working on this project and gathering the data and the input on the targeted placemaking, how many specific designated areas off the map would that $700,000 go to do? Does the grant decide that it's a lower number of higher concentrated placemaking, or are you trying to spread it out more? I only ask because there's a lot of dialog about activating our corridors and I noticed a lot of these areas are along some corridors and some of my colleagues had asked for corridor activation type ideas for the upcoming budget and perhaps this could meet those needs. Understood. Certain neighborhoods are going to benefit more than others on corridors, for example, the one in the very far northeast corner of the city, we are mostly looking at economic development along that corridor. We don't see other opportunities. That's the very red one at the very top of the map. So I say east, I meant west. I'm from the East Coast. So the one on the very top of the map, that one we view as being a prime example of where we can focus some dollars on economic development for those corridors because it's a very stable neighborhood otherwise. But the business district up there is is wanting investment and there is the ability for us to make some targeted improvements up there. We don't envision that the $700,000 will be spread evenly. We do think that there will be different needs for those different areas and that we'll be responding to those needs appropriately. And I also noticed the concentration of boxes on the Anaheim corridor is that another area where placemaking would be ideal. In Anaheim and PCH or the other two East-West corridors that we're looking at as well. And one of the red areas, the place based neighborhood improvement area, does cover the Washington neighborhood from. Home to PCH along Pacific Avenue. Yes. So could you give a couple of examples of the types of things you'd be doing in these neighborhoods? So for something like that neighborhood, we might be focusing a little bit on corridor improvements along Anaheim, but we also might be focusing on some fair housing issues in the neighborhood itself. So it will depend on the geography of the neighborhood and the needs within those each individual neighborhoods as to how we we target those investments. We may, for example, contribute to park development. We may try to focus on a key acquisition of a piece of property that that might assist us in park acquisition or park development. It just depends, again, on the neighborhood. And then will that be. Braided with the funding over goal four, which is the business revitalization program so that you really love Regina for $1,000,000? We hope so, yes. So we do have the business improvement, economic development focus as well. So if there's a way for us to combine, for example, the letter of credit and a facade improvement program and sending somebody to the Small Business Development Center for additional business training, we can leverage different resources also from different agencies to try to make improvements in those areas and at the speeds. Of those pay as you go. So if you refer 15 people, they send you a bill or you giving them an outright 110 hoping that we utilize it, we. Actually give them an outright 110, but they are required to provide a certain number of trainings and technical assistance classes over the course of the year, and they're required to report to us quarterly on those activities in exchange for that flat rate. So we negotiate that in advance and they have trainings and offer one on one assessments and consultations throughout and they do have benchmarks that they do have to meet. I'm very supportive of SPDC. I appreciate the work that they do with the businesses. I would say that the trend nationally is towards outcomes, not ours, and that we probably need to be looking at that as well. It's great to say they've provided 70 hours of X, Y or Z, but what are the outcomes that we are looking for as a city? And no matter how many hours it takes for them to accomplish those, whether it be less or more, yes, that trend is coming. So I appreciate that. Thank you so much. It's been a long haul. To get here. Congratulations and thank you for the work that your team has done. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman Gonzalez. Yes, thank you. To Amy and Alim and and Liz, I really appreciate this work as well. And I am glad that we are focusing on corridors that like Anaheim and PCH that we've long worked on together. I know, Amy, we had a discussion about us CDBG funding, and I had asked about whether, you know, in Anaheim and PCH, historically, a lot of the business owners are not able to fund and front the the funding to be able to pay for their storefront and then get reimbursed. So is there a way that the city is able that we are able to front that that money for a business signage program? Right. That question is still being discussed between Alem and our Los Angeles region. Great. So we don't quite have an answer for you yet. Okay, perfect. I'm glad we're we're at least thinking about. Yes, I think that would be great if we are able to do it. But I know that there's sometimes some hurdles we have to go through. Right. Thank you. Okay. And then in terms of I'm looking at the consolidated plan priority areas and I see under housing needs, which I know in some areas of my community, I see in there rental security, deposit assistance. Is that just for individuals experiencing homelessness or are we looking that at that kind of broadly? It is for individuals who are experiencing homelessness or may be experiencing homelessness. It does include the ability to refer folks like college students who may be, you know, bouncing around from apartment to apartment. They actually would actually qualify for that. And we've had discussions with Cal State, Long Beach, as well as the Multi-Service Center on how to direct kids in need who may be able to hold down a job and pay rent. But they're just not able to come up with that first month, last month security deposit situation. So it is definitely income based and you do have to demonstrate that you do have the ability to continue to pay rent once you are in a in an apartment. Okay, great. Thank you. That clarifies my question. And thank you for the work. This looks fantastic. And I look forward to working with you again on on future discussions on this. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Super. Thank you and thanks for the report, Director Buddha. I just have a question, if we could from, from the presentation on the 418 action plan activities. The number for code enforcement. Could you just give a very brief delineation of what that looks like? So the one we are requesting budget of $1.159 million for code enforcement. Code enforcement is funded by CDBG. A portion of the staff is funded by General Fund. And then there's a small portion of staff that is funded by the prep inspection program. So we are not able to increase the number of staff who are funded by CDBG. Without getting into issues of supplementation. We can't supplant the general fund in any of our expenses. So we are not able to reduce our general fund and increase our code enforcement to cover additional costs. So we're very careful about that proportionality between General Fund and CDBG. Our CDBG funded folks only work in CDBG eligible areas. Okay. Thank you. Also on on the funding for the Multi-Service Center, is is that a flexible number or is is that kind of locked in at this point? It is as high as we can go without cutting other services. We have a category called public service, and we are limited by HUD regulations to only funding 15% of our total entitlement for those things in that category. And we are somewhere hovering around 14.91%. And so we don't have the ability to increase that without cutting something else. Okay. Thank you. And I know you're 292 page report is an E version here. What about the presentation? Do we have an electronic version of the of the slide show? Yes, it is actually attached to the led to start item for this item and it's available through the city clerk's web page. And I can certainly make it available. Okay. Thank you. I'm not quite through the 290 pages yet, so I'll get there. Thank you. The council meeting is still going on right now, so. You don't have to tell me. Thank you, Councilman Andrews. Yes, fine. First of all, I want to thank Amy and our crew, which has done a fantastic job, because the fact that, as she noticed, you know, I'm just constantly in whenever I get a chance, I'm going to drop by and see Mrs. Moore. That because the fact that I know what she and her staff does and I just like to listen to her talk about it because it makes me feel excited because I know they're doing something in my area, but want to think that like, you know, just one thing I'd like to ask you, Mrs. Amy, is that, you know, you said that $2,000 for businesses and it's from 2000 to 10000, it's $2,000. We currently have a rebate program right now for $2,000. We are looking to create a brand new program that would increase it to $10,000. That's that's the one. Yeah. Thank you so much. Because that's but the same project, right? Yes. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you. Gasoline place. I just had a question about this map. That's up. Can you just tell me what's what is that property on the southeast side of it is this sea tip wetlands. We do not really address that. Okay. According to HUD's data, it is a CDBG eligible area. Hmm. Okay. Those birds are innocent. We. We do not know how that happened, but they are on our map. Okay. That's what Jack and I were looking at the map thinking as. Are we reading it correctly? Is there an area that we didn't know about? Okay. It's a racially and ethnically challenged, concentrated area of poverty, according to HUD. Thank you. We have not found that one wetland plant that is suffering yet. So that sounds good. Thank you. Thank you. So I just have a couple a couple of things. So, Ms.. Barack, we brief monthly and I enjoy those briefings on Joy, our conversations. And, you know, I've been following this, but apparently I haven't been filing that close enough because of a couple of things. So, one, I didn't know about some, you know, two specific things that I think I probably should have known coming into tonight. One is the specific strategies and tactics associated with the with the budget. I would have loved to, like, have some time to talk with you about those tactics that are in, you know, page seven or I don't know which side that is page seven on the handout and page eight, because, frankly, a lot of these programs are, you know, good, successful stuff. But I would love to just better understand how they work together to improve, you know, these these corridors, the corridor, this highlighted in the northwest portion of the map. So that does have two active neighborhood associations who meet monthly are really engaged. I would love for them to, you know, be able to weigh in specifically those two neighborhood associations on this. And then secondly, like, you know, just south of there, south of Artesia, we've got an all hands on deck approach. And I'm saying that you know this, but the public may not, but we've got an all hands on deck approach to clean up those motels because the recent homicide and luxury in the history of human trafficking and it just stands out to me that we are literally a block north, you know, a block north of that. And if we had had this conversation sooner, I would have probably said, hey, we need to look at how this can be a part of a larger strategy for clean up the motels and the human trafficking on that corridor. So, you know, secondly, I would kind of like to know if we did and I know this is and we joke P.B. late, this is your attempt to be like, I'll give it to you with not fully participatory budgeting but you know, we'll agree to disagree is fine. But I would say my question is that we do any specific outreach with those neighborhood associations adjacent and they'd I'd like to know which residents like how much of the total surveys came from residents in that neighborhood. How was how much was this informed by that engagement? Is that an answer we have handy? I do not have the survey addresses with me on where the survey results came from, but we can certainly get those for you. I will say that I'm not sure that the discussion with the motels and the human trafficking would have actually been CDBG eligible. I do take responsibility for, frankly, forgetting about that one place based and neighborhood improvement strategy area up in your district. I literally completely forgot about it as being an eligible place best air area, and it is my responsibility to brief you on those things. Having said that, I do believe that that corridor is in need of economic development. We have done additional facade improvement work, as you know, up there. We've also granted a few $2,000 facade grants to new businesses just north of Artesia. And we'd like to continue that trend because there are still vacancies up there and business owners that are wanting to come in there, we can get you the information on the specific neighborhoods that we did brief. And if you want specific names, we can try to get you those as well. I would I would just say that. I would like some time to talk about this with you, given that, you know, largely this is in north, west, central Long Beach. I feel and, you know, this is a five year strategy, a five year plan. I feel like we need to have some time to make sure we're all comfortable and on the same page, given how much of a focus we placed on Long Beach Boulevard with human trafficking and the issues there and you know, the liquor stores, it's all been hand in hand with your office. So my question for you is we're on a timeline to get this submitted to HUD by August. We've discussed that timeline. Do we have any time to make some changes to this? I think that would be very difficult unless it was changes that were made and re recirculated to the public. These documents have been out in draft form for a number of months and we've had two public hearings and a study session at the Long Beach Community Investment Company, where they've had robust discussions about where the money should go as well. As I said though, earlier, the dollars and how they are implemented on the place based neighborhood improvement strategy areas get defined based on availability of dollars and then also based on additional input with the communities. We do not have those strategies laid out right now, and so I'd be a little bit reticent about delaying this discussion because we we have completed all the community outreach and do have all the data that was based on HUD's requirements in order for us to move forward. So I get that I want to be sensitive to that deadline. What flexibility do we have? I don't like when the council get something and it's like, you got to pass it now. No time for changes. So what changes can we actually make without running afoul of the deadline? I mean. The document is due regulatory. On August 15 and. I think the breakup of the place was neighborhood improvement strategy. It's not fully defined, so we can always come back and talk in terms of allocating resources and programs. But as far as this document is concerned, we might have a couple of weeks before we really need to submit it to heart because there are other paperwork we have to take care of before submitting it on August 15. Okay. So here's what I would ask. You know, I would like to specifically the question of the boundaries. Do we have was that something we established on these placement targets or was that. The. Boundaries of data? Like what was the criteria to establish. That the red boundaries we established based on public input and areas of need and resources. Okay. And any periods or defined. Are already defined for the red areas, is what I'm concerned about. I'd like to be able to weigh in on that. Yes. And so if we had a conversation between now and placing it back on the agenda in August, do we have time to have a limit conversation about the red areas? And you know, and I don't want you know, I don't want if other council members are comfortable with it in their district, that's fine. I'm just not comfortable. It was in my district. So. So I think I would like to have that question answered before we submit this to to to the feds. And the answer is yes. Okay. So what I'd like to do if the council is open to this. I would love to continue this to, you know, council meeting on August 9th for to complete it and then. Ms. BODAK I'm willing to get together this week if we need to, to talk about I need to better understand it, the criteria and the strategies around that, that red area, because it's a major it's a major sore area for North Long Beach, given the recent homicide. Given the history of prostitution, gang activity on that corridor adjacent to another city, we've had a bunch of circumstances where a crime happens in one city and someone may flee into the other. There's a where, you know, we have a joint task force with, you know, Compton Lynwood to address some of this stuff. And I feel I don't feel completely comfortable yet. So, you know, so if that is possible, I'll offer that as a, you know, friendly to the maker of the motion. Ms.. Pearce. May. May I make a suggestion? Yes. Due to the timing that we have to comply with, we could remove that area, adopt the rest of the document as it is, and then come back and do an amendment to the document at a later date. Throughout this, you're. Comfortable approving the document with or without the corridor there. So how is it we can amend it later before the deadline, but we can't take some time with it. I don't understand. Why it would. Be amended after they have certified it, so we would be able to do additional community outreach. I don't feel comfortable coming back to you August 8th without having gone through additional research and additional community outreach and having detailed discussions on whether the goals that you're trying to reach are even eligible for this funding source. So, so, so here's the issue that I have. And, you know, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to allow this to sort of move forward. But the issue I have here is when something comes from the council and there's no flexibility to make changes, and I think that's unfair to the public that we're held accountable to. And and frankly, you know, if we're talking about expanding it to include something and not taking out what was already circulating in the community, I don't see how the community would be shorted if they say, hey, we advocated for this corridor, but we said we're going to keep that, but maybe extended a few blocks to make sure there's some intersectional ism, you know, with with the strategies that happen. To me that makes sense. And I don't think it's a tough argument to to a community to say, look, we're doing this, but the council expanded its scope. So is that something we can do at the dais today expanding? Yes. I would like the. Area. Of the red boundary south toward to be able to look at the CDBG, CDBG areas, those motels and the strategies adjacent to that. That's something we can do on the floor without doing something that's already there. We really walked. Through the neighborhoods. We are talking about the north part of this corridor. But how far south are you suggesting to the Alamo? Well. I mean, you know, honestly, I don't want to say limited, but there's a lot of activity in LA of these one of our even south of even north of the Alamo, frankly. But what I what what I would suggest is in my recommendation. I want to just make it clear that we are we still have CDBG money for the other areas. We are not. It's not. Other funding. It's a strategy. And when we go out to the public and we say that the public is backing this, I want to feel comfortable standing by it. We don't have a lot of sources of funding limited to these areas. We don't have access to redevelopment anymore. We don't have access to Tidelands. There's almost no funding to be creative about our solutions. So this is more important than most people understand. Four counties like North Long Beach. So what I would do here's what I'm going to suggest. We move forward with this as is unless, you know, someone wants to kind of chime in in support of this, maybe we look at an addendum to add some include a couple of areas because frankly, I just don't know that we would have a coordinated strategy, city strategy, a block away from an important coordinated city strategy that addresses some of the similar things, which is blight, activating certain area, dealing with the condition of people who live in a certain condition. And so that's that's where I'm coming from. But I see that there are other people queued up here. So we'll continue the conversation. Councilmember Bianca. Thank you, Mayor. Well, the concern that I have with this whole whole the report is that, you know, I haven't really had a chance to review it, digest it and really understand it. And in regard to that map right there, I can't really tell. In my in my district where the borders are. And secondly and most importantly for me. I'm colorblind. You get rid to take two. Different types of red. You got a thick creating a thin red that's black or white or whatever. I can't tell you the color. So, like, you are pleased. Please deal with my frustration because like you, it's a real disability. And when I'm not given an opportunity to really evaluate it and look at it and digest it and determine where are those areas and borders that we're talking about. And when you're talking about Mozart, I didn't even know how south, how far south you're talking about, Rex. But you were north for for whatever it is. But, you know, I basically bottom line, I just haven't had a good opportunity to review this with my staff or with anybody, any anyone else concerned in my community to look at this. I feel like Rex does in the sense that if we move forward with this, you know, you want to feel comfortable that when I'm asked, you know, what did you do? What did you have for CDBG monies in your in your district? I won't I don't have an answer because I don't know. And I'm very I'm in dark on this right now. And I would have loved to have had a prior type of orientation on it to share these these concerns with with staff so that I can have a better understanding as to what what these borders are. So I'm going to make a the motion to please hold this over for until October 9th. You said an amending motion. In August that. Well, you said amending motion. Is that a friendly to make a motion or a substitute motion? Because you were the one you were the one saying that. You. Do the things you're willing to do to do. So that's a friendly to the making of the motion. No, not at all. I'll get the first meeting in August so it wouldn't need to be re agenda as it is continuing. Right. We can continue to a date. Certain is that. Are you open about making the motions open to that next speaker please. Councilwoman Mongo So I'm compassionate to the idea that it's hard when things come back with a short deadline. I get that. Vice Mayor, you and I spoke about these funds last year at the end of budget, at which time eight months ago, Ms.. Bodak and I sat and started the discussion and dialog related to this. And one of the things that I want to be careful of is the raw community input process that was done by the staff. And so I think that I would like to be respectful of their input and data. I'm happy to add to it, but I definitely don't want to take away from it. So, Ross Bodak, if we approve tonight, what is on there? Could we add another zone at a future date that would allow you to continue forward with the process without limiting your abilities? Yes. Okay. So. I. I. Councilman Pearce, you took the friendly before. So do you want another friendly or would you prefer me make a substitution? No, I don't. Okay. So my friendly would be that we make a motion to approve the substance of the community input the components that are required for HUD, the legal register, regulations that are binding, and that we ask development services to bring back to the Council an additional area to be considered at a future date. Hopefully, if you can get the input in time August 11th, but that we would still I'm sorry, August 10th, eighth, eighth, August 8th. Thank you. Tuesday, August 8th. There is a great opportunity the Tuesday before in neighborhood night out to potentially gain some of that input because the community will be activated and available. And so hopefully that would be possible. But I also don't want to one, miss out on a deadline or to rush an important process that I know you've been working on for eight months. So my friendly would be to approve the report as it stands today with an expectation of an amendment to this council. Quickly, hopefully. August 8th. I accept. That's wonderful. I think I accept that. Definitely I do. You know, I want to recognize that. I think it was last week we had a briefing to discuss. I'm sorry. I'll accept it. And then any other comment, Stacy, before that? That's all. I don't want to hold up any of the others. And as stated by Ms.. Bodak, just because those areas are highlighted doesn't mean all the funding goes to those areas. And I do respect that. Vice Mayor Richardson wants to highlight another area as a part of a greater citywide strategy. But to do that appropriately, I worry that it might take longer than the deadline, but I'm opening that window that it's possible that work for everyone. In the city staff. I'm comfortable with it. If we can have that discussion before, that's something we can do. I don't know if we'll be able to come back by August 8th in either situation. So let's keep let's keep going in. This could keep the conversation going. Councilmember Patricia, next. Yeah, I wanted to, you know, set the friendly with the recognition that you guys have been doing. The you guys have been doing the work. You've had the meetings with us. Hold on. I'll wait for everybody. It's okay. Sorry, ma'am. It's okay. I know it's an active topic, which I think demonstrates that sometimes we have briefings with staff and it kind of comes in and it's like, this is what we're doing. And not to take away from all the work that staff has done in your leadership, with your staff and direction that you've given them . But when there's areas like vice mayor, as mentioned, that we clearly care deeply about, sometimes there is a there's trying to understand where do we have input early on in the process and where are we best partners with you? And so and able to be that best partner with you early on will keep us from feeling like we now all of a sudden, oh, there is a decision that we could have had an input on earlier. And so again, really echoing that, particularly with with strategies like this, that we really need to be partnering ahead of time. And so I'll accept definitely the the friendly. But you know, I think the vice mayor and everybody else's has done a lot of work on this. So as much as we can get approved right away and make those amendments and that we are constantly having those conversations on, are there other amendments and things that we can be looking at to make sure it's aligning with other strategies that we're already working on and that we feel comfortable with so we can go back to our constituents. So, yes, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Austin. Thank you. And Ms.. Burdick, if you have already explained this and I missed it, please forgive me. But the addendum or amendment process that you were speaking to, can you walk us through what that that is and how that looks like with what that would look like in terms of a timeline? We would I'm inclined to support the friendly on the floor that that would allow us to approve this document this evening or the plan this evening and then move forward with that. But I'd be full, a lot more comfortable if I knew what the process was. Right. So we would like to be able to submit this to HUD and then work closely with you and the vice mayor and any other council members that are interested in re addressing this. We would actually have to have a public hearing to do an amendment and it would be actually be called an amendment to the con plan and our 2018 action plan. If you notice on your recommendation tonight, as I said earlier, there are two amendments to the other action plans because we are moving budget from one item to another and that's considered an action plan. So it is procedural for us to do that. It's not too difficult. It's just a little bit time consuming, particularly when there is neighborhood outreach. I do want to address one question that was asked earlier. We did reach out to College Square and Star King neighborhoods in particular and did get survey results back from them. So that does. Those were the two groups that we were working. With in that northernmost area. Okay. And the last part is, obviously, there are areas that I'd like to see addressed in my district that I think would be great, particularly in those red zones in terms of neighborhood space, placemaking. And there was a I think I lost my thought. There's talking going on there area. What do you want to do? Just go to school. Okay. I mean, we all have areas that we'd like to address. But again, I'm looking at that and having a better understanding and getting a better understanding this evening. I think it would be good. And I would also just say that dealing with the unknown variables in Washington, D.C., dealing with HUD today, I don't think it would be wise for us to to push the envelope. Dealing with the unknown here. And I don't think I need to speak about what that is in the administration. Remember, Ben Carson is the guy who's going to ultimately approve this. Thank you. Before we get to Customs, I have a question. So in terms of the process, we're an amendment process, and I'm inclined to go that direction if if it makes sense. But have we considered what it takes to actually get an extension from her? What is that process? We actually tried to get an extension last year on our assessment for fair housing and. And they didn't go well. We did not get an extension for our employees. Not looking. Good. And that was in December of 20 1716, excuse me. So it was a different administration and we still did not get the. I get it. I get it. Okay. So next we have Councilmember Braga. To follow up on. That is the amendment that we would make if we were to go ahead and say, let's move forward and we had an amendment, when would that take place or what would be the the timeline on that? When we felt that we have addressed all of your questions, we would schedule an amendment to come back to city council. But it's got to be before August 15th. It will not be before August 15th. Okay. So then there's there's an opportunity then for us to readdress our concerns or to express our concerns and added to the document as an amendment when it's to the original document. Yes. Okay. Because I do have obviously questions, as Councilmember Austin mentioned to you, I have concerns about the outreach in my West Palm Beach area as well. I mean, so it's like I mean, we all have these little pockets of neighborhoods and associations and and community based organizations that have not did not reach out to me saying that we were reached out about this these these CDBG funds. And so, like, I was not aware that there was anything going on, but yet because I was not aware, I wasn't able to reach out to them and say, this is coming up, please respond and and participate in this evaluation. So if we can do this, I mean, we're sort of backtracking a little bit, but I would rather backtrack a little bit and get it right and move forward and get it wrong. Thank you, Councilmember. So now before we wrap this up, so just to restate, so we're moving forward with the document today. We will ask for staff to begin a discussion around an amendment relatively soon, let's say within the next six months request an amendment. You think that's realistic? It will be far sooner than six months. Yeah. We will be engaging. With your. Office. We should rush it. We should do sincere. We shouldn't rush it. We should do some sincere engagement. I don't think we're asking you to go double the size of everything we have on there. What we're talking about here is some adjustments, right? Understood. Some adjustments. Look at maybe some input or value that we could add from the council's perspective. And I'm very comfortable with with that amendment process. So so it has my support. So as any public comment on this on this item. Seeing no members. Please cast your vote. Before we get we had a city attorney. It seems only want to restate. Emotionally the the motion as I understand it with a friendly from the fifth councilmember from the fifth district is that. All our CDBG we. Would adopt the motion as staff recommended and adopt and and bring back a proposed amendment. And as you would the vice mayor just stated, within a time reasonable time frame, including public outreach. All right, members, we thank you both. Thank you. Washing cars. Thank you. All right. We are.