Recommendation to receive and file a list of the recommendations compiled from the Medical Cannabis Task Force.
She took communication from Councilmember Urunga, Vice Mayor Lowenthal, Councilman Andrews and Councilmember Richardson. A recommendation to receive and file a list of the recommendations compiled from the Medical Cannabis Task Force. Councilmember Wrangham. Thank you, Bear. Basically, I want to thank my former colleagues, council members, who with the Andrews and Rex Richardson for sending on to this. It has been a nice long process for the the task force has been working has done its job. It has it has a series of recommendations that are coming here to us. And I would hope that my council members would approve receive a file of this item. Thank you, Councilmember Richardson. I don't have any comments at this point. Councilwoman Pryce. Thank you. I'm going to urge my colleagues to vote against this item. I appreciate Councilman Yanga bringing this forward, but I have a few points that I just want to share with my colleagues and ask you to please keep an open mind regarding the points that I want to make. First of all, I read the agenda item. And just as a point of clarification, Mr. Mays or the city clerk who I know has been at every one of these meetings, these task force meetings. Are these recommendations or are these just topic items that all the task force members were able to put on this list? Councilwoman Price I'll try to answer. And if I say anything incorrectly, if the city clerk could jump in the way and I have been to every meeting except for one, the way this has worked is initially the task force had engaged speakers to come down and talk about various subject. And as those subjects were discussed after maybe three or four meetings, I think we were into it. It was decided to more or less keep a running tab. They would vote on issues that later they would come back and then make formal recommendations. So basically it was a running list. I would characterize it as a running list of topics, but no actual recommendations other than defining the topics have been passed. The plan was the task force self committed to trying to end the process on July 29th. What would have happened last Wednesday night had we not had the emergency situation in the downtown area, is that we would have started going through the list of recommendations, the list of topics. There are approximately 45, some of our double topics, approximately 45. The plan was to go through them one by one, have a discussion on each item, and then hopefully get a motion and ultimately a clear, concise recommendation back to council on something. So from my perspective, none of those are actual recommendations, but just topics. Have the task force members voted on any single one of these recommendations or. I'm sorry, running list of topics. Not. Not that I can recall that they voted to formulate a recommendation and start compiling a list to send that back to council only. Topics. Okay. And the reason that I that I asked that question is so we all. Other than Councilman Supernova, who is not here but the rest of us actually selected members of the community. I believe most of them are residents of the city of Long Beach to serve voluntarily on this task force with the commitment that we made to them that their work was going to be meaningful and that we were going to consider their efforts, and that at some point they were going to get to vote or at the very least offer some sort of closing remarks to the people that they've been serving with since April. Is that when they started their service in April? Or that when they first met. If I recall, I think the first meeting was maybe the first week in April. Okay. So but it is am I correct to assume that the task force members believe that at some point they were going to get to either vote on recommendations that that that this process was designed for them to at some point get to vote on a recommendation? Exactly. There was so much material to cover, it was sort of impossible to keep your thoughts collected without keeping sort of a running tab of issues that became apparent as different speakers or written material was provided to the task force. And at the time that we created this task force in February of 2015, we had not yet received from the city staff data and information that came to council and through the task force in the form of two memorandum provided by various departments in the city. Is that correct? That's correct. And I think we did receive the task force did receive the second memorandum approximately June 4th. And so the task force, where they provided copies of the information that we were receiving in terms of fiscal impacts, regulatory impacts, those kinds of things. Were they updated with that information? Both of the memos that the city management prepared were provided to the task force as soon as, you know, at the next meeting after the document became public. Okay. My concern with this item and I think I, I understand where it's coming from and I appreciate the intent behind it, which is to to move the process along. And I completely get that. I understand it. I, I respect that position. Certainly nobody wants and I'm sure the members of the task force would be the first to say they don't want to serve an indeterminate term on this task force, that they're hoping that it comes to an end at some point. So I appreciate the intent behind it, but I believe that getting involved at this juncture, when the task force has one final meeting set that they're hoping, well, they had two meetings. One was canceled as a result of the power outage, but that they have a date certain on their calendars. These are citizens in our community who have active lives, who have families, who have things, who have these dates on their calendars. I know for a fact that at least one member of this task force has rearranged their family schedule, vacation schedule in order to be at this meeting that they had contemplated to be the last and final meeting. I think it sets a bad precedent for us to get involved and basically call a list of items that they've put together, recommendations and call it a day. I think it sets a bad precedent for our future engagement of the community in terms of citizen advisory commissions. I think Citizen Advisory Commissions can be a very helpful tool because these people serve their time to weed through the data and figure out exactly no pun intended there. Figure out exactly what it is that they think are best for their best recommendations for their cities as as residents of the city. And we rely on them. So, you know, this the the medical cannabis task force that we created has been working on this for months. I believe it's only fair that the process continue or at the very least, each task force member be provided an outlet where they can contribute their thoughts and a final meeting or a final to meetings. The recommendations provided have not been voted on. They are simply a list and the task force members do not feel that these tentative recommendations are representative of everyone's views. In fact, if you look at the list, there's a recommendation on there that the city's current ban continue and another one that says we should wait until 2016 to see where the initiative process goes. And then there are actual land use recommendations. So the the list isn't even consistent in terms of its theme or its direction to council. This is a very controversial topic and the task members varying recommendations are a testament to that. If we receive and file the recommendations today, we will be shutting down the task force without even giving them an opportunity to share some closing thoughts and viewpoints with one another. They are a committee that has been working collectively, hand in hand to the best extent to that, to the extent that they can to do service for us. And I think it would set a very bad tone if we were to end that service without at least giving them an opportunity to close the process in the way that they deem fit within their dynamics. So I think you guys, my my colleagues for listening and I urge you to vote against this in the spirit of the future commissions and task force that we're going to create and and request the assistance of our colleagues and our residents to help us move forward. So thank you. Thank you. Can I get one clarifying question? Because, I mean, I thought that I understood the need to start to consider your anger. The item in front of us wouldn't preclude the the committee from having another meeting that I think they're going to have still in July. Is that is that correct? The next meeting is presently scheduled for the 29th. There's nothing on the agenda item that would, if it were passed, would disband the committee directly. The the only I think the thing that needs to be avoided is doing something that causes confusion in the community, in the sense that if the community believes that these are recommendations, and I think clearly they are not at this point recommendations that would cause some confusion either now or later when this is ultimately addressed by council. And I would because I think I know and I understand having had a few conversations. I understand the the both the urgency and the need to allow the the committee to try to have an opportunity to come together and give either recommendations or some type of some type of ideas to the council. So I just wanted to ask Councilmember Turanga, was it your intention to have the committee have at least one other meeting but then still have the recommendations come the council soon after that? I understand that was your original intent. That is my intent. And in fact, they could have had a meeting because it was a meeting that was canceled. So if the task force had already identified a a date when they were going to conclude their work and that was the 29th, then fine. They can they can make up that meeting that they lost because of the outage. And so they can have another another meeting or two if they so wish to have it, and then bring it back as recommendations in August. So I think I think setting a time certain of having this come back to the council in August would give the flexibility to staff to schedule that in August. And that way we obviously have a variety of meetings in August, but we would be able to schedule that with the rest of the calendar so that at least both the community and the task force know that that their you know, if the maker wants to craft the motion this way, that their work is coming to the council in August for the council to actually deliberate. So I don't know if I want to make that motion, maybe a little if you're willing to accept that. I accept that as a motion. Okay. So the motion with the slight friendly is to receive and file these recommendations that would come to council in August. But there's still going to be conversations and other recommendations are going to come forward, I'm assuming, if this group meets again. So at least that's where it's at right now. And we'll see where where the council is on that. Councilwoman Mongo. Thank you. I, too, want to thank the city staff, specifically the city clerk's office and Mike Mayes for the work that they've done on this. And the commissioners are the committee members that we've each appointed. I have been thoroughly impressed with the depth and the breadth of knowledge that they have digested in such a short period of time and the types of discussions that they've had and the considerable thought that has gone into this. And I do not want to delay. I want the citizens who have volunteered their time to be appreciated and have closure. And I want to thank my task force members for having done an excellent job. I would, however, state that considering and I don't have a August vacation. And so I hope that people take this as a genuine desire for all of my colleagues to be present for the discussion. And I know that in August we have council members who are going to be absent from certain meetings. We actually have two August council meetings because through a motion from Councilmember Richardson, myself and Leanna, we are celebrating neighborhood night out in our communities for citizen engagement and we are dark the last Tuesday of the month. So I would only ask the council member to make a date certain of September 4th, the first meeting in September. The first meeting that we know all council members are present. And again, I mentioned this is not for myself. I am not. It's September 1st. Thank you. I am not taking a vacation. But I do feel it is important that every councilmember be here, you know? Right. September one. Wonderful. Thank you. I appreciate it. Just let's be very clear. So our last meeting in August. I think right now. Right now, the friendly ask from Councilman Bongo was to actually set a date, which was September 1st. First. And I think right now, as it stands, Councilmember Urunga has said by the end of August, which is different. And so I think it sounds like you're sticking with your initial last, which would be the last available meeting in August. Okay, so that's the motion on the floor. Councilmember, your Enga. It gives. I'm sticking to my motion the end of August, which is the same. If you go to September 1st, it gives another two weeks. So it gets extended even two weeks even further. So I can't I can't accept that that that amendment, because it just prolongs it even more. So let's let's get done with this task force. Okay. So the motion is, is for the end of August. Councilwoman Pryce, or did you just go or was that. No, I still have the floor. Sorry. Cleared out. Let me go back to Councilman Mongo. Thank you. I'd like to make a substitute motion that we have a date certain of September 1st so that all council colleagues can be a part of this very important decision impacting all residents of the city of Long Beach. So there is a substitute. I think it's a substitute. Substitute motion, right. Or is it just a substitute? Okay. That's just a substitute motion to have the date certain for September the first that it would come to the council. And I'm assuming and let me ask this question to Mr. Mays on the date that the recommendations will come to council. Would the council be able to make any policy decisions that date? Would it be agendas for policy decisions? Well, it depends on how it was agenda is actually but in theory you could we have a draft ordinance that was prepared at the direction of the planning commission. You could use that as a starting point and you could go through there the task force recommendations and vote to, for instance, include certain things in a draft ordinance . But we would have to bring a draft ordinance ordinance, an amended draft ordinance back to you eventually anyway. That. But. But the council could give you policy direction at that meeting. Absolutely. We'd like you to do X, Y or Z. Okay. Yes. All right. Okay. So the subject of motion is September the fourth. It first. I'm sorry. September 1st. Councilwoman Price. Thank you. I want to thank my colleague, Councilwoman Mango, for requesting the September 1st date. First of all, we're going to be going through some pretty heavy budget discussions in all of August. And realistically, given the study sessions that we have and the PSC meetings that will be there, I think this is an item that I understand two weeks seems like an eternity, but I think that it's important that we give the the the subject, the weight and time that it deserves. I would be requesting first of all, I have an issue with the wording of item 34 because I believe that legally the term recommendation is inaccurate. And so I don't believe that item 34 is legally accurate as it's currently worded. So, Mr. Mays, do you have any concern with the use of the term recommendations? I'm not sure I could say it was legally inaccurate, but it is inaccurate as a reflection of where the task force is. So it is it is not an accurate reflection of the task force because they, in fact, have not made recommendations to this council. It is a list of topics to be voted on in the future. Okay. So, you know, I think that that we may want to correct the wording there if that's important to any of my colleagues. The second is point that I'd like to make is in February when we voted on this, I voted against it because we put forth a timeframe for this task force that was. Completely. Unrealistic. And that's why I was the sole vote against the the item, because the task force that we created, we had a very short turnaround for them. And yet we were asking city staff to come back with financial data, regulatory data, land use data, public safety data, and still expecting the task force to come back. And at a specific period of time, that was not realistic given what we had asked city staff to provide in terms of data. So I understand that we we believe that there are folks who are here in the audience who deserve a swift resolution of this issue. I get that. But I also want us to be cognizant of the fact that our burden in regards to this item grew, as did the work for staff and the workforce for the the workload for the Commission. So we have to be realistic of that. I understand we want to rush it along. I would request of my council colleagues and I cannot imagine a scenario where my colleagues wouldn't go along with this request, is that I'm going to be out of the country on August 18th. I've communicated that to my colleagues on the BSE and and for whatever reason, it seems important to at least one of my colleagues here to have the meeting on that night. This is an issue that's very important for our city. I was in Washington, DC testifying before the National Highway Traffic Administration last week as a subject matter expert on the issue of of medical marijuana and marijuana in general in regards to traffic safety. It's an issue that I've been very involved in. And if my council colleagues feel that it's important to have all of us here for issues that have affect our city, that applies to all of us equally. So I just I really don't even think that that's a subject of debate. I'm asking my colleagues for some consideration. So. Thank you. And I know I will say that I know one major on major issues that have come before the council, including this one in the past, there has there has been deference to ensuring that you do have a full body. And so just to make that note, Council Member Austin. Okay. It just seems to me that we're quarreling over a week or two and and if if it will generate consensus here to to to get us and get the ball rolling. I think it's not really worth the fight. I will support the motion in front of us right now to move this to the September 1st. That makes a lot of sense. I'd like to have some time to debrief with my my appointees on the task force. And a lot has been said about it has been brought up already. We are going into a budget season. Time is going to be very, very limited. And so with this issue, it is a complicated issue. Clearly, there isn't a lot of consensus even on the task force or agreement on the task force on much of these issues. There's no reason to believe that this council is going to get there either. But I'm willing to take that on in September. That's it. I thought you brought up Councilmember Price, brought up the timeline for the task force, and I was going to ask the question. But did we ever establish. I don't recall that. But was there a specified timeline for the task force to actually work? I think originally there was a timeline. I don't recall exactly what it was early on in the process. The task force asked that we send a two from four memo to the council indicating that because of the complexity of the issues and the number of speakers that they wanted to engage to inform themselves about the entire topic , that it wouldn't be possible. That said, there were some weeks where they met, you know, every week, most often because of their schedules. There were so many on there. They met every other week. So they have been working hard. Each meeting was, I would say, at least 3 hours if not 4 hours long. So they have been putting a lot of time into it. Thank you. Well, I think we do need to figure out how to to recognize the efforts of these citizens who've been putting a lot of time in to to assist this council in our decision making. I also just want to go back to the word recommendation, because the item is a recommendation to receive and file a list of the recommendations compiled by the Medical Cannabis Task Force for the next council meeting. But when I go back to the agenda, I look at the agenda of the actual medical cannabis task force. There. One, two, three. Everything starts with the recommendation. And how do we. How do we. How do we separate that from. From. Mr. Mays, how do we separate that from not sending the wrong message? Maybe the correct motion would be to receive and file the list of topics contained in tonight's agenda item rather than refer to them as recommendations. And again, I if I could ask. I will ask the clerk who's been attending the meetings if I'm mischaracterizing it in any way. It was always my understanding that we were compiling a list of topics and that. Starting well last week that they were going to vote on those topics and formalize recommendations that would come back. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay. So. I guess the the for the the I guess the motion on the floor would it be in order to offer a friendly amendment amendment to to to characterize it as the city attorney has? I believe that is absolutely necessary. Thank you. Absolutely. All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayes. Thank you, Councilmember Alston. And I think I know. I'd like to add that I think that comes from your anger and I know this is an item that he brought forward, I think is amenable to just accepting the September 1st date as a as a friendly amendment just to bring consensus and move on here. So if I don't know if the if the maker of the substitute motion would be willing to essentially let the councilmember set the September 4th date with the change of the wording of the recommendation September 1st date, we're okay with that. It would be essentially the same. The same motion. Yeah. Okay. That way he has still his item that he's moving forward. So. Okay. So there's a motion on the floor which is contrary. Ringo's which is to September 1st have have the the issue come back. By then, the the committee obviously will have met before that. And we're changing the wording of the word recommendation. Let's you know, we have still a long agenda in front of us. I'm going to keep going through the speakers list by Samir Lowenthal. Thank you. Just quickly on the word change of the list of recommendations. What was the word that he changed it to Mr. Mays? Because all of. Mr. Mays. All of their minutes referred to them as tentative recommendations. A list of topics of topics. Okay. Is what I indicated. Maybe somebody has a better word, but that's really what it is. That's fine. That's fine. That's why I'm thinking. Mr. Mayor. Councilman, your income. Let's get some clarification here. What was sent to us. In its present form, says recommendations. Obviously it was mischaracterized because it should have been sent to me as topics. So my motion here was based on what I received. So that's a mischaracterization. Not my problem. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. So what's happening on September 1st then is still the same. I want recommendations on September 1st, not topics. So if there's a change that needs to take place here is to correct this, um, memo that says recommendations and revise it to say topics. But my recommendation to come back on September 1st is still to come back with recommendations. So that's the st that stays. Is that correct? Yeah, I think that's correct, Mr. MAIZES. Yes. Okay. That's correct. That's excellent. Counselor Richardson. And then we're going to hopefully vote. Yes to hopefully, hopefully vote. I just want to say how how pleased I am to see after all that discussion, we've landed on the same thing. And I just also want to say I also want to say that there's only two meetings in August, and the 18th is my birthday. So give me a break. Let me repeat. This, man. So, come on. I want to be here till midnight on the 18th. September 1st. I know. That's why. Okay. Here we go. So next up, a have public comment. Is there any public comment on the item? Please come forward and we're going to go to a vote. Good evening. I'm Jack Smith. I live at 50 Elm Avenue in the second District in the East Village. I was pleased to be appointed to Vice Mayor Cecil Lowenthal to the task force. We've been working on this a long time. A couple of quick answers. We always creating a list called tentative recommendations. And we were very, very, very careful every step of the way to make sure those were tentative recommendations with the idea that would be going through those tentative list, that tentative list, and then finalizing those. The document you're considering this evening is not a report. It is the agenda for the July 15th meeting at which we were going to be taking up a number. The full list of tentative recommendations. Now, at the July 1st meeting, there were three recommendations that were approved. They are not on this agenda because they're in the minutes of the July 1st meeting. So this list that you are looking at is not a complete list of all of the tentative recommendations because three of them were actually approved. Those three were to be approved. I mean, they were voted on and majority one to review unequal cultivation sites through long throughout Long Beach, you create equal sites in each district. The businesses cultivating and sales would be allowed in any location, not zoned as residential and not within specified buffers. And three, there be a maximum of three collectives per district. Now the minutes of July of the July meeting may have a slightly different wording for that, but that's what was that's essentially what it was. At this point, I guess it's possible that it's irrelevant whether they are finalized. I mean, what you're what the motion is asking to do is even file a document that is not finished. If you were to set a date certain for us to finish our work, that makes sense. But it makes no sense at all for you to get this list of tentative recommendations in any way thinking that this is what how the task force stands. Now, just because I'm here, I'll give you my list of tentative recommendations to eliminate print advertising, the amount of crime be considered in the areas where the business is applying to locate maintain 1000 foot buffers between the businesses and no two businesses can occupy the same site. All applicants pass a complete background check. May I see my clock, please? Applicant City residents of Long Beach for two years prior to the approval of the copy, the transfer of ownership not be permitted. Any change of ownership requires a copy testing be done by a third party qualified lab safety standards on the ordinance to be the minimum state's safety standards. At a discussion of the location of edible production and an annual regulatory fee assessment, be on it and specify an application fee. My I would expect there's about 850 applications that we'll expect to have to process for this. So. Because of my first comments. I don't get the race. But remember that what you're reading now is a list of items that each person on the task force put forth. Without discussion of the task force. They were tentative list anything item could be put on there. Only three were approved. I would suggest that you have got to even file. You just set the date certain. Thank you. Very much. Next week, please. My name's sophomores and so I'm a resident of the second district and I actually used to work for you guys. I'll be very brief because I know you all are very exhausted. This has gone one way too long. And I'll just say this. You've run out of time. You've had since 1996 to pass a workable ordinance, and you've had seven years since. It's been a primary issue within the city of Long Beach. Three of them, four of them, members of this body have been here through the entirety of their entire terms, dealing with this one specific issue. And what has changed? Nothing. The law is mostly the same on the state level. You guys have waited entirely too long to be able to pass on that to be workable for this entire community. You shifted the burden on to this task force, which has also come to the same conclusions, which is there's a lot of disagreement about this issue. Every time this has gone before, the people, the city of Long Beach in a ballot initiative, it has passed in dramatic numbers. And if you fail to do something that actually serves the community by either pushing this off or accepting the city manager's proposal, which is an unworkable, basically lawsuit bomb, then what you'll see is an either another ballot initiative or you're going to see every single piece of your work preempted by state or federal government. Once they actually manage to pass something. So please don't delay this any longer. Either set it, either follow a jack as recommended, set a date certain receive and file these with these preliminary findings that you have right now and do your job as legislators and pass something to benefit the community. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please look to the last speaker and then we'll go to the vote. Oh, we have another speaker play, please, with two more and then last two speakers. Please someone. Defer. Jeff Abrams I defer to Adam because Adam Hejazi has direct knowledge of being a member of the task force. But I would just like to ask you, council members, to consider the fact that I don't know that it's a topic continue the ban. I don't know. That's a topic per se. I think that's a recommendation, and that is something that you're going to see in this list, which talks about hours of operation and security concerns and ban it at the same time. That doesn't seem to be a qualified consensus from a task force. It seems like people saying yes and people saying no. Frankly, the conversations devolved into medical marijuana. Yes or no? In a lot of cases. And I found that pretty appalling, given that the science is very clear now. And we have to remove the mindset of 1915, 1916, 1917, 1980, 1990. Because every day you're looking at the same information. If you read newspapers and if you read magazines, you listen to the radio, watch TV. You're listening to the same stuff that I am. And that is the L.A. Times. About two weeks ago, the staggering suicide rate of veterans, the staggering 22 per day. Could they be helped by medical marijuana? Possibly. Who knows? But at this point in time, you certainly can't get it in Long Beach and certainly not in a in a manner that's what I call safe and dignified . Our veterans who are struggling are already made to feel criminal in trying to secure the product, procure the product. I spoke to Chief Luna directly at a town hall meeting not too long ago because I did want to ask him about all of the negative interactions that vets will have with the Long Beach Police Department. And these are the same fellows and ladies. Six times more women are killing themselves than the national average. I just asked him, how are we going to mitigate all these negative interactions with vets? These a lot of these fellows are homeless. It's a sad situation in Long Beach. And I do believe that the veterans, aside from M.S. and ALS and IBS and Crohn's and a whole malady, a group of malady that are just horrifying. This is an un-American effort to deny veterans who are suffering with PTSD. A naturally occurring herbal medicine that has been used for thousands of years. When I tell you that Queen Victoria used this for PMS, I plead. I ask you to Google it. I learned many, many years ago, 40 years ago in Jamaica that this is a cure all for so many things. And the fact is true, Western medicine uses a pill. They prefer herbs. Thank you so much. Thank you. Next, our final speaker. We're going to vote. Good evening, Honorable Mayor. City Council. My name is Adam Hijazi and I'm a task force member. First off, I wanted to thank Vice Mayor Lowenthal for her appointments. Second of all, I wanted to thank all the council members for having this process and deliberating with a wide spectrum. Of individuals that have different concerns. And honestly, it's been a educational process. Being a previous legal. Operator and just learning a lot from different. Aspects that have come up. So also I wanted to thank the. City attorney's office. And the city clerk's. Office. It was another educational figuring out. Robert's Rules of Audit. And I also want to thank Jack Smith because he pointed a lot of that out to. During that process. Hopefully, we're we're happy to see some sort of date that come into. Place that September 1st will. Actually come in and. Recommendations. And we look forward as. A task force to provide those recommendations to you on that date. And, you know. Just one last thing. To consider is that the urgency. From among a lot of reasons. Is. To has it been safe access in Long Beach for the last three years. And hopefully we can bring back safe access to these patients. And a model that can actually work and will be a model for up and down the state. A lot of people are looking towards Long Beach, other cities, not just individuals. So I wanted to thank you guys very much for the opportunity. And have a good night. Thank you. I have I have one more final council comment, which is Councilman Price. Thank you. After hearing public comment, I'd like to make a substitute substitute motion. I am moved by the comments of resident Jack Smith. So I would like to recommend that simply this that the medical marijuana task force complete their service to the city of Long Beach by August 21st, 2015, in order to provide time for council to debrief with the members and have it on their September 1st council agenda. My recommend, my my substitute motion includes just the time certain for the completion of the task force. It does not include adopting or receiving and filing any topics, recommendations, suggestions, tentatives, anything like that. Because after hearing from Jack, it seems to me that there may be some recommendations that aren't even included in this list, and I don't want to receive and file and bring anything into our record that doesn't represent any official actions by the task force, because I really don't know what the benefit to the city would be of receiving and filing and bringing it into the record. So my substitute substitute is complete their service by August 21st, 2015, in time for it to come back to council on September 1st for policy action. Second. There's a motion and a second, Vice Mayor Lowenthal. So, Mr. Mayor, I'm not quite certain how that is in the spirit of Councilmember your anger's motion different, or that had it been offered to him, he would not be amenable to that. I think we have a long history on this council with this issue and. Jack Smith, who is my appointee, has forwarded the remainder of the recommended the list of topics for consideration. I believe it's part of the record. And so I in the spirit of collegiality, I would urge the maker of the motion and the secondary of the motion to offer that to member your UNGA. Because I don't believe in the course of our conversation that I witnessed any disagreement there. Sure I. Shall. To impress? Absolutely. I'd offer a friendly to Councilman Urunga to agree to set the time, the date certain, but to not receive and file any documentation from the task force. September 1st is the date that I think I put forward, and that's the date that I would want to receive the recommendations if it is appropriate to direct the task force to finish its work on August. 21st, 21st, and that's fine with me. But are you amenable to the part about not receiving and filing this document that was mischaracterized? Apparently, I mean, clearly to you. So, yeah, it was mischaracterized. Yeah. But at the same time, it was also you know, I was also informed that it would be part of the part of that record anyway, so it could go either way. Okay. Would you be amenable then to not receiving and filing it in this body, knowing that it's a part of the official record for that body? Okay. Thank you. Okay. So the there is no substitute substitute on that. Councilman Andrews. Yes. I would like to ask one question. I'd like to know what the other. Well, we have another individual who's who's on the task force. What was his decision on that? We have two people on the task force. Then in the soup. So what would. I would like to get, you know, both. So I think they had. Because this is just we can't just take one person's word for it. We got two people on a task force. Yeah. Well. Yeah, they're going to come on. So I think we had public comment and you know, they weren't they didn't speak. So what we have right now is a motion on the floor. And and I actually think and I heard from Rank City attorney that, uh, Councilman Fresh's motion would have been a substitute motion. That is correct, because the. Okay, so there is there right now there is nothing but a main motion on the floor. Correct. Just Councilmember your rank is motion. Correct. So that is queued up right now. Please cast your votes. A councilmember during his motion is for this to come back on September the first for the committee to complete its work on August the 21st first. And that recommendations would come at that time to the Council for Policy decision upon. September. 1st. Okay. Thank you. And Mr. Mayor, we're not receiving and following the recommendations. I think there's little. That's correct. That is correct. Thank you. Councilwoman Pryce. Thank you. Motion carries nine zero. September 1st. It is moving on to the next item. You can. You can. Yeah. It s at me. I can. We just people. Right, Madam Clerk. Item number 22 Report for Financial Management Recommendation to approve the Fiscal Year 2015. Second Departmental and Fund Budget Appropriation Adjustment Citywide.