###Instruction: Multi-class classification, answer with one of the labels:['no_consensus', 'delete', 'keep', 'comment', 'merge', 'redirect'] : ###Input:  Q1805489: Taşdemir (Q1805489) : male given name : ( delete | history | links | entity usage | logs | discussion ) There is no such given name (Vorname) in Turkish. The item was wrongly opened as "Vorname" in DE:WP (corrected now) and a bot opened this page here. I mean the wrong item. Please delete it and do not get confused by bots. E4024 ( talk ) 23:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC) On hold This item is linked from 2 others. -- DeltaBot ( talk ) 23:20, 7 November 2019 (UTC) I hope we do not leave things to bots here. Right? -- E4024 ( talk ) 01:13, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Hello, yes, Taşdemir IS a given name for males too, but the first source is sometimes not available, and therefore I added another source for the given name now : Taşdemir (German). Qaswa ( talk ) 15:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC) In the en:WP there are Turkish names very often only stated as a "surname" even if they are given names, too. Qaswa ( talk ) 15:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Vay beee! Is that your source? I guess you are not a Turkish speaking person. If you knew what "Vay beee" means you would now be exclaming "Vay beee" and laughing like I do. :=) -- E4024 ( talk ) 16:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) I added both references to the item. --- Jura 11:15, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Hello, yes, Taşdemir IS a given name for males too, but the first source is sometimes not available, and therefore I added another source for the given name now : Taşdemir (German). Qaswa ( talk ) 15:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC) In the en:WP there are Turkish names very often only stated as a "surname" even if they are given names, too. Qaswa ( talk ) 15:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Vay beee! Is that your source? I guess you are not a Turkish speaking person. If you knew what "Vay beee" means you would now be exclaming "Vay beee" and laughing like I do. :=) -- E4024 ( talk ) 16:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) In the en:WP there are Turkish names very often only stated as a "surname" even if they are given names, too. Qaswa ( talk ) 15:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Vay beee! Is that your source? I guess you are not a Turkish speaking person. If you knew what "Vay beee" means you would now be exclaming "Vay beee" and laughing like I do. :=) -- E4024 ( talk ) 16:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) Hello, yes, Taşdemir IS a given name for males too, but the first source is sometimes not available, and therefore I added another source for the given name now : Taşdemir (German). Qaswa ( talk ) 15:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC) In the en:WP there are Turkish names very often only stated as a "surname" even if they are given names, too. Qaswa ( talk ) 15:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Vay beee! Is that your source? I guess you are not a Turkish speaking person. If you knew what "Vay beee" means you would now be exclaming "Vay beee" and laughing like I do. :=) -- E4024 ( talk ) 16:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) In the en:WP there are Turkish names very often only stated as a "surname" even if they are given names, too. Qaswa ( talk ) 15:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Vay beee! Is that your source? I guess you are not a Turkish speaking person. If you knew what "Vay beee" means you would now be exclaming "Vay beee" and laughing like I do. :=) -- E4024 ( talk ) 16:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) In the en:WP there are Turkish names very often only stated as a "surname" even if they are given names, too. Qaswa ( talk ) 15:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Vay beee! Is that your source? I guess you are not a Turkish speaking person. If you knew what "Vay beee" means you would now be exclaming "Vay beee" and laughing like I do. :=) -- E4024 ( talk ) 16:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) I hope you had a good laugh --- but fact is it is another source for the given name, and that's what was asked for. Qaswa ( talk ) 18:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC) I'm still laughing and waiting for you to find some "normal" people with that given name; not necessarily males, females are also welcome. Regards. -- E4024 ( talk ) 00:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC) Have you had a chance to look at my contributions so far? I work generally on personal names and until today have opened many given, family and "both" name items. The problem here is there is no such given name. So simple. -- E4024 ( talk ) 14:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we have two references for the contrary. In this case, we should use Help:Ranking of statements to avoid re-doing this once a week. --- Jura 14:10, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we are discussing in vain as I am the only one who knows Turkish here (apparently :) and more than apparently the so called sources do not impress me. Therefore as minority opinion I will not lose more time on this. Do whatever you like. BTW you should have seen the discussion about the Turkish footballer "Canavar Burhan" (Burhan the monster :) in DE and another WP. Some ridiculous source had written his surname as Sargun instead of Sargın, and I had a hard time convincing people to come to my side. (After all I was a friend of the family and that is "original research". I'm sure if I had taken a photocopy of his passport and provided them, they would have requested me to first publish this photocopy in a scholarly article. :) -- E4024 ( talk ) 15:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Is the Turkish Language Association reference misunderstood or does it support the statement? --- Jura 11:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC) Have you had a chance to look at my contributions so far? I work generally on personal names and until today have opened many given, family and "both" name items. The problem here is there is no such given name. So simple. -- E4024 ( talk ) 14:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we have two references for the contrary. In this case, we should use Help:Ranking of statements to avoid re-doing this once a week. --- Jura 14:10, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we are discussing in vain as I am the only one who knows Turkish here (apparently :) and more than apparently the so called sources do not impress me. Therefore as minority opinion I will not lose more time on this. Do whatever you like. BTW you should have seen the discussion about the Turkish footballer "Canavar Burhan" (Burhan the monster :) in DE and another WP. Some ridiculous source had written his surname as Sargun instead of Sargın, and I had a hard time convincing people to come to my side. (After all I was a friend of the family and that is "original research". I'm sure if I had taken a photocopy of his passport and provided them, they would have requested me to first publish this photocopy in a scholarly article. :) -- E4024 ( talk ) 15:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Is the Turkish Language Association reference misunderstood or does it support the statement? --- Jura 11:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we have two references for the contrary. In this case, we should use Help:Ranking of statements to avoid re-doing this once a week. --- Jura 14:10, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we are discussing in vain as I am the only one who knows Turkish here (apparently :) and more than apparently the so called sources do not impress me. Therefore as minority opinion I will not lose more time on this. Do whatever you like. BTW you should have seen the discussion about the Turkish footballer "Canavar Burhan" (Burhan the monster :) in DE and another WP. Some ridiculous source had written his surname as Sargun instead of Sargın, and I had a hard time convincing people to come to my side. (After all I was a friend of the family and that is "original research". I'm sure if I had taken a photocopy of his passport and provided them, they would have requested me to first publish this photocopy in a scholarly article. :) -- E4024 ( talk ) 15:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Is the Turkish Language Association reference misunderstood or does it support the statement? --- Jura 11:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC) Have you had a chance to look at my contributions so far? I work generally on personal names and until today have opened many given, family and "both" name items. The problem here is there is no such given name. So simple. -- E4024 ( talk ) 14:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we have two references for the contrary. In this case, we should use Help:Ranking of statements to avoid re-doing this once a week. --- Jura 14:10, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we are discussing in vain as I am the only one who knows Turkish here (apparently :) and more than apparently the so called sources do not impress me. Therefore as minority opinion I will not lose more time on this. Do whatever you like. BTW you should have seen the discussion about the Turkish footballer "Canavar Burhan" (Burhan the monster :) in DE and another WP. Some ridiculous source had written his surname as Sargun instead of Sargın, and I had a hard time convincing people to come to my side. (After all I was a friend of the family and that is "original research". I'm sure if I had taken a photocopy of his passport and provided them, they would have requested me to first publish this photocopy in a scholarly article. :) -- E4024 ( talk ) 15:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Is the Turkish Language Association reference misunderstood or does it support the statement? --- Jura 11:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we have two references for the contrary. In this case, we should use Help:Ranking of statements to avoid re-doing this once a week. --- Jura 14:10, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we are discussing in vain as I am the only one who knows Turkish here (apparently :) and more than apparently the so called sources do not impress me. Therefore as minority opinion I will not lose more time on this. Do whatever you like. BTW you should have seen the discussion about the Turkish footballer "Canavar Burhan" (Burhan the monster :) in DE and another WP. Some ridiculous source had written his surname as Sargun instead of Sargın, and I had a hard time convincing people to come to my side. (After all I was a friend of the family and that is "original research". I'm sure if I had taken a photocopy of his passport and provided them, they would have requested me to first publish this photocopy in a scholarly article. :) -- E4024 ( talk ) 15:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Is the Turkish Language Association reference misunderstood or does it support the statement? --- Jura 11:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we have two references for the contrary. In this case, we should use Help:Ranking of statements to avoid re-doing this once a week. --- Jura 14:10, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Apparently we are discussing in vain as I am the only one who knows Turkish here (apparently :) and more than apparently the so called sources do not impress me. Therefore as minority opinion I will not lose more time on this. Do whatever you like. BTW you should have seen the discussion about the Turkish footballer "Canavar Burhan" (Burhan the monster :) in DE and another WP. Some ridiculous source had written his surname as Sargun instead of Sargın, and I had a hard time convincing people to come to my side. (After all I was a friend of the family and that is "original research". I'm sure if I had taken a photocopy of his passport and provided them, they would have requested me to first publish this photocopy in a scholarly article. :) -- E4024 ( talk ) 15:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC) Is the Turkish Language Association reference misunderstood or does it support the statement? --- Jura 11:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC) Not done -- Pasleim ( talk ) 18:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)