###Instruction: Multi-class classification, answer with one of the labels:['no_consensus', 'delete', 'keep', 'comment', 'merge', 'redirect'] : ###Input:  Q17018059: Q17018059 : no description : ( delete | history | links | entity usage | logs ) All the instances of "Bones" as a given name were wrong, since it was always used as a nickname, never as a given name. All items have been corrected and there's no reason to keep this one. Sannita (ICBSA) ( talk ) 13:22, 15 February 2018 (UTC) On hold This item is linked from 1 other. -- DeltaBot ( talk ) 13:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC) @ Pasleim : I'm ambivalent about Prince Harry - as I said before I think the distinction between "given name" and "nickname" is arbitrary. I apologise for choosing a bad example where other editors have decided to use formal, legal names only. But look through our other uses of Harry in the "given name" property , it is obvious that we don't enforce this definition of given name (P735) consistently. Harry Frank (Q88574) adopted "Harry" as an adult, probably as a pseudonym (P742) . Harry Schwarz (Q65911) is actually "Heinz" by legal name but adopted "Harry" as his preferred given name, probably never making it legal, as an adult. Harry Warner (Q104161) is born "Hirsz" and took the name "Harry" upon immigration to an English-speaking country. The use of birth certificates as the standard also breaks down when we start cataloguing cultures where people have given names in multiple languages and unless their birth certificates have been published by someone else we'll never know what's on the certificate. We don't know whether Andy Lau (Q16766) has "Andy" on his birth certificate (even though given name (P735) Andy (Q13627273) is there). Mandy Tam (Q6748342) has given name (P735) Mandy (Q283277) even though her election candidate listing shows that "Mandy" is a name she uses in daily life but not her legal name (which only lists her romanized Cantonese name "Heung Man"). In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) Withdrawing my keep vote because other editors have found a reasonable way to deprecate this out of use. Deryck Chan ( talk ) 12:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) In my opinion, in all "Harry" examples we should replace wherever applicable "Harry" by their legal name. It seems that most of the "Harry" statements were added by semi-automatic tools, most likely by just extracting the first word of the Wikipedia article title. For people from East Asia I think they should not at all have P735 statements with a latin-script value. Maybe I have an overly strict view on P735 but it would be good if people who often work with given names could write a small documentation on what counts as a given name. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC) There is a special property for birth names and official names. I think you are confusing these with P735. --- Jura 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC) No, I'm not confusing it. birth name (P1477) is for the full name of a person at birth, e.g. given name plus family name. official name (P1448) is not for people. But as I said, I would welcome it if for example you as an active member of WikiProject Names could write a documentation about what is meant by a given name in Wikidata. -- Pasleim ( talk ) 14:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC)