###Instruction: Multi-class classification, answer with one of the labels:['no_consensus', 'delete', 'keep', 'comment', 'merge', 'redirect'] : ###Input:  Q113502322: Q113502322 : no description : ( delete | history | links | entity usage | logs ) Not notable. Dorades ( talk ) 22:24, 12 August 2023 (UTC) Am I missing something? There’s quite some coverage on Google News. -- Emu ( talk ) 13:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC) I did not search for, the item just appears to be quite vacant and without any sources. -- Dorades ( talk ) 18:45, 13 August 2023 (UTC) @ Dorades : Does Wikidata not have a standard of WP:BEFORE? StarTrekker ( talk ) 21:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I did not search for, the item just appears to be quite vacant and without any sources. -- Dorades ( talk ) 18:45, 13 August 2023 (UTC) @ Dorades : Does Wikidata not have a standard of WP:BEFORE? StarTrekker ( talk ) 21:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Dorades : Does Wikidata not have a standard of WP:BEFORE? StarTrekker ( talk ) 21:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I did not search for, the item just appears to be quite vacant and without any sources. -- Dorades ( talk ) 18:45, 13 August 2023 (UTC) @ Dorades : Does Wikidata not have a standard of WP:BEFORE? StarTrekker ( talk ) 21:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Dorades : Does Wikidata not have a standard of WP:BEFORE? StarTrekker ( talk ) 21:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Dorades : Does Wikidata not have a standard of WP:BEFORE? StarTrekker ( talk ) 21:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don't know of such a policy. If I overlooked something, I'm happy to adopt my edits accordingly. -- Dorades ( talk ) 16:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) On English Wikipedia WP:BEFORE refers to actions one can take before putting something up for deletion, mainly searching for information and double checking. From what I can gather Wikidata does not seem to have the same system, but I think its a pretty good thing to do. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ StarTrekker There are those who advocate for the exact opposite: Shifting the burden of proof onto the item’s creator, i. e. deleting anything that doesn’t have references that are proof of notability. Given that it only takes seconds to create an item on Wikidata and it sometimes takes hours to make sense of such items, this idea could have some merit. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu I have always been more of an inclusionist than a deletionist, so I'm not bound to support such a reform on Wikipedia or Wikidata, but if it was to be introduced on Wikidata I would propose that Wikidata started to demand people create an account to create items (like on English Wikipedia) which would reduce careless item creation and that there were always notifications to item creators. StarTrekker ( talk ) 11:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) I don’t know. It’s single purpose accounts that create the most work for me as an admin. -- Emu ( talk ) 11:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC) @ Emu Fair, I'm not an admin so I can't relate to the kind of issues you have to deal with. StarTrekker ( talk ) 16:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC) Not deleted See notable by new coverage only, but adding some sources would be welcome. Fralambert ( talk ) 23:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)