###Instruction: Multi-class classification, answer with one of the labels:['no_consensus', 'delete', 'keep', 'comment', 'merge', 'redirect'] : ###Input:  Q31274785: Vjatšeslav (Q31274785) : male given name : ( delete | history | links | entity usage | logs ) There exists Q19597898 Estopedist1 ( talk ) 18:16, 20 May 2019 (UTC) On hold This item is linked from 2 others. -- DeltaBot ( talk ) 18:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC) Notified participants of WikiProject Names : Vjatšeslav (Q31274785) should be kept, but it is in poor shape, right? I would appreciate some expert input here. — MisterSynergy ( talk ) 09:33, 13 December 2019 (UTC) If Wolverène is right the claim ' the same as Q19597898 should be removed if not both items should be merged. Agree with MisterSynergy we better wait till experts from said countries speak in this discussion. Klaas `Z4␟` V : 09:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC) I'll try to expain in one more way. Imagine. There's an Estonian called Vjatšeslav (in fact an ethnic Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian/of Russia's indigenous minor ethnicity... who cares, he's still Estonian by nationality) . And there's a Canadian with Russian background called Vyacheslav who successfully gained the Estonian nationality. For the governmental services of Estonia the first one is surely Vjatšeslav, and the second person is still Vyacheslav, his name wasn't changed, they have two different names pronouncing same. Same would be happened in Finland. Ask an Estonian or a Finn. I saw one Estonian user here, I'm a bit embarrassed to ping him as he may not be interested. -- Wolverène ( talk ) 10:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC) the items must not be merged : it is the practice of the Names project to create an item for each different written form of a name. Wolverène is right... it was created for Q47500796 , who is Estonian, and whose name (in Estonian) is written Vjatšeslav, not Viacheslav or Вячеслав, even if at the time of his birth, Estonia was part of USSR... AND it is also the practice of the Names project to link similar names through said to be the same as (P460) , to be able to find similar names with different scriptings, and other forms of the same name, and to prevent merging by people who do not know how the project works. @ Harmonia Amanda : please correct me if I said something wrong about the project way :) and Thanks to Jon_Harald_Søby who quietly completed the item as I was answering here :) -- Hsarrazin ( talk ) 13:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Yes thanks Hsarrazin , you've presented it in a good way I think. I was writing a reply here after completing the item, but got distracted and forgot to save. The rule is basically one spelling = one item. So the spelling with the Cyrillic letters must have a different item than the many variant spellings with Latin letters. They are all connected (in theory at least) with said to be the same as (P460) for the different spelling variants. Jon Harald Søby ( talk ) 13:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC) I'll try to expain in one more way. Imagine. There's an Estonian called Vjatšeslav (in fact an ethnic Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian/of Russia's indigenous minor ethnicity... who cares, he's still Estonian by nationality) . And there's a Canadian with Russian background called Vyacheslav who successfully gained the Estonian nationality. For the governmental services of Estonia the first one is surely Vjatšeslav, and the second person is still Vyacheslav, his name wasn't changed, they have two different names pronouncing same. Same would be happened in Finland. Ask an Estonian or a Finn. I saw one Estonian user here, I'm a bit embarrassed to ping him as he may not be interested. -- Wolverène ( talk ) 10:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC) the items must not be merged : it is the practice of the Names project to create an item for each different written form of a name. Wolverène is right... it was created for Q47500796 , who is Estonian, and whose name (in Estonian) is written Vjatšeslav, not Viacheslav or Вячеслав, even if at the time of his birth, Estonia was part of USSR... AND it is also the practice of the Names project to link similar names through said to be the same as (P460) , to be able to find similar names with different scriptings, and other forms of the same name, and to prevent merging by people who do not know how the project works. @ Harmonia Amanda : please correct me if I said something wrong about the project way :) and Thanks to Jon_Harald_Søby who quietly completed the item as I was answering here :) -- Hsarrazin ( talk ) 13:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Yes thanks Hsarrazin , you've presented it in a good way I think. I was writing a reply here after completing the item, but got distracted and forgot to save. The rule is basically one spelling = one item. So the spelling with the Cyrillic letters must have a different item than the many variant spellings with Latin letters. They are all connected (in theory at least) with said to be the same as (P460) for the different spelling variants. Jon Harald Søby ( talk ) 13:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC) the items must not be merged : it is the practice of the Names project to create an item for each different written form of a name. Wolverène is right... it was created for Q47500796 , who is Estonian, and whose name (in Estonian) is written Vjatšeslav, not Viacheslav or Вячеслав, even if at the time of his birth, Estonia was part of USSR... AND it is also the practice of the Names project to link similar names through said to be the same as (P460) , to be able to find similar names with different scriptings, and other forms of the same name, and to prevent merging by people who do not know how the project works. @ Harmonia Amanda : please correct me if I said something wrong about the project way :) and Thanks to Jon_Harald_Søby who quietly completed the item as I was answering here :) -- Hsarrazin ( talk ) 13:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Yes thanks Hsarrazin , you've presented it in a good way I think. I was writing a reply here after completing the item, but got distracted and forgot to save. The rule is basically one spelling = one item. So the spelling with the Cyrillic letters must have a different item than the many variant spellings with Latin letters. They are all connected (in theory at least) with said to be the same as (P460) for the different spelling variants. Jon Harald Søby ( talk ) 13:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC) I'll try to expain in one more way. Imagine. There's an Estonian called Vjatšeslav (in fact an ethnic Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian/of Russia's indigenous minor ethnicity... who cares, he's still Estonian by nationality) . And there's a Canadian with Russian background called Vyacheslav who successfully gained the Estonian nationality. For the governmental services of Estonia the first one is surely Vjatšeslav, and the second person is still Vyacheslav, his name wasn't changed, they have two different names pronouncing same. Same would be happened in Finland. Ask an Estonian or a Finn. I saw one Estonian user here, I'm a bit embarrassed to ping him as he may not be interested. -- Wolverène ( talk ) 10:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC) the items must not be merged : it is the practice of the Names project to create an item for each different written form of a name. Wolverène is right... it was created for Q47500796 , who is Estonian, and whose name (in Estonian) is written Vjatšeslav, not Viacheslav or Вячеслав, even if at the time of his birth, Estonia was part of USSR... AND it is also the practice of the Names project to link similar names through said to be the same as (P460) , to be able to find similar names with different scriptings, and other forms of the same name, and to prevent merging by people who do not know how the project works. @ Harmonia Amanda : please correct me if I said something wrong about the project way :) and Thanks to Jon_Harald_Søby who quietly completed the item as I was answering here :) -- Hsarrazin ( talk ) 13:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Yes thanks Hsarrazin , you've presented it in a good way I think. I was writing a reply here after completing the item, but got distracted and forgot to save. The rule is basically one spelling = one item. So the spelling with the Cyrillic letters must have a different item than the many variant spellings with Latin letters. They are all connected (in theory at least) with said to be the same as (P460) for the different spelling variants. Jon Harald Søby ( talk ) 13:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC) the items must not be merged : it is the practice of the Names project to create an item for each different written form of a name. Wolverène is right... it was created for Q47500796 , who is Estonian, and whose name (in Estonian) is written Vjatšeslav, not Viacheslav or Вячеслав, even if at the time of his birth, Estonia was part of USSR... AND it is also the practice of the Names project to link similar names through said to be the same as (P460) , to be able to find similar names with different scriptings, and other forms of the same name, and to prevent merging by people who do not know how the project works. @ Harmonia Amanda : please correct me if I said something wrong about the project way :) and Thanks to Jon_Harald_Søby who quietly completed the item as I was answering here :) -- Hsarrazin ( talk ) 13:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Yes thanks Hsarrazin , you've presented it in a good way I think. I was writing a reply here after completing the item, but got distracted and forgot to save. The rule is basically one spelling = one item. So the spelling with the Cyrillic letters must have a different item than the many variant spellings with Latin letters. They are all connected (in theory at least) with said to be the same as (P460) for the different spelling variants. Jon Harald Søby ( talk ) 13:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC) the items must not be merged : it is the practice of the Names project to create an item for each different written form of a name. Wolverène is right... it was created for Q47500796 , who is Estonian, and whose name (in Estonian) is written Vjatšeslav, not Viacheslav or Вячеслав, even if at the time of his birth, Estonia was part of USSR... AND it is also the practice of the Names project to link similar names through said to be the same as (P460) , to be able to find similar names with different scriptings, and other forms of the same name, and to prevent merging by people who do not know how the project works. @ Harmonia Amanda : please correct me if I said something wrong about the project way :) and Thanks to Jon_Harald_Søby who quietly completed the item as I was answering here :) -- Hsarrazin ( talk ) 13:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC) Yes thanks Hsarrazin , you've presented it in a good way I think. I was writing a reply here after completing the item, but got distracted and forgot to save. The rule is basically one spelling = one item. So the spelling with the Cyrillic letters must have a different item than the many variant spellings with Latin letters. They are all connected (in theory at least) with said to be the same as (P460) for the different spelling variants. Jon Harald Søby ( talk ) 13:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC)