What we do have  and have had for a long time in this country is an acceptance within our law and an acceptance within our definitions of freedom that there are responsibilities with freedom  and those responsibilities in this particular case, we have long accepted the argument in this country, maybe not as much as  erm, well more in fact than some of our colleagues abroad and maybe they could learn from us from this, but it is not acceptable  to have the freedom to be unnecessarily cruel  and in fox hunting we have a sport that is unnecessarily cruel, there are ways in which you can deal with rogue foxes, there are ways in which you can actually ensure that the fox community does not destroy the whole, er farming countryside.