This is a matter of personal conscience  and what every member  in the council chamber today must be aware of, is that there is a vociferous and committed group of people  we know that because we've all had a great deal of  communication from them  and interestingly enough I have  and most of the communication I've had has been in favour so victory, people who write must be extremely perceptive in, with er  marketing the  that's not the point, we all know that there is a committed and vociferous group of people whose consciences do not lead them to the same conclusions as Mr  's conscience  and the issue really is, do we in a  liberal and democratic society  have the right  to impose our consciences on those of other people who live in the community and quite clearly and quite determinedly take a different view.