Erm, it, what it struck me as is a parallel with Freud's idea of transference, you know that once something happens in the, in the traumatic period in a, in a childhood, there's then a tendency to transference  to occur later in life, we recreate later in relationships to er the model of the early one and er it struck me that what you said about French industrial relations sounded a bit like transference in erm in the psychoanalysis the idea that i i it spills out as it were from the initial  which might have been saved er within the family to other relationships i in later life that people have with their superiors at work or something  I mean you can see this actually sometimes you know that people have relationships with their superiors  which are clearly erm based on erm their relationships with their parents and they see the,th their boss as a parental figure and the employee sees themselves as er as, as, as a kind of erm child  and it shows itself sometimes in quite er quite unmistakable ways.