My mother  I remember  there was a sale of work going on at Palfrey church once and bef I had just been made apprentice at Wolverhampton and of course I got amongst the, they, when they came the, the Derby day they were all having  a bet on it so I, I said to the  give them half a crown, so he said you can't have half a crown and he said what do you want it for so I said they're putting it on a horse  was on this horse it won, so of course this sale of work was in great progress when I gets off the train at  station and thought well I couldn't understand  in er Palfrey Church Hall, so she was there in all her finery and I said we've won, we've won  she said shut up, shut up she said  but erm  no I think the biggest character in Caldmore was Father .