I used to go and fetch the, the butter from  don't bring margarine my father used to say we put better stuff on our machines so  er  I used to go to  for my father kept foul, I used to fetch a peck of, bushel of this and a bushel of, you know all the various things that, bran and stuff for the foul yes, yes and I believe a lady, she has, she's only recently died and but she kept it for  a long long while Elsie her name was.