Yeah, exactly, so if, if you look at it in terms of the Kipsigy you know  system, you can clearly see that what they showed was youth and plumpness were the critical fac an an and attractiveness, if the girl was young, plump and attractive she got a high  and if the girl was older erm, if she had something wrong with her or she was skinny, then the  less and that's, so it's quite interesting