I hope I will, that we will have support in it  on this issue and I don't want to take up all the time but it is something that members  do approach me in, and and others on the members' services sub  and I hope we have  time Chairman to er give this report some consideration and let's say it's a v , it's a very important  if you  Chairman want  any additionals to the recommendations, or if you say we're going too far in the recommendations because those recommendations you have down in front of you will be forwarded on  and  you're  officers and your your your policies and resources they've given some time on on this report and therefore on the bottom of page thirty one  the motion to be moved says that the comments of the policy and resources committee and the recommendations of the joint working party and the internal management of the local authorities be noted for submission  to the Association of County Councils as appropriate.