On the question of the public conveniences erm I feel  there's been a lot of discussion about this, this kind of issue and I feel that what we've got now is a good agreement erm, we've got  still providing a good level of service with attendance at the central  I don't like referring to conveniences, at the time that they are most needed and I think that now I wouldn't like to see us go without that if we don't really need to.