oh yeah the people, matey's walking along and he's going like this and he's pulling it as he's doing it, he says  and he's doing it in proper time  like that, but with one arm going he's twiddling it, he's doing it, he says no my feet are exactly  like that, very effective but you can actually get fined for loosing them, you have to pay for them and its like a real, shooting sticks as well,you don't tend to carry erm, these pay sticks you carry them like the old shooting sticks, the old  you know?