since he came to our Lordships House with some very  and has had to sit this thing ever since then with one exception er to speeches deeply and seriously critical er of the  proposals er coming from Members of your Lordships House mostly with vast experience of the subject matter former Secretary's er er former Chief Constable er and er so many others and I arise only to put one point to you  if my Noble Friend decides to resist these amendments, it seems to me  I may be wrong  but it seems to me overwhelmingly clear that they will be carrying against him and they will be put into the Bill which will be very considerably altered and amended, some of your Lordships may think improved, but certainly drastically altered and I wonder whether er my Noble Friend thinks that really would be helpful from the point of view either of the pr future progress of the Bill, or the position of the Government.