and er, but apparently they did a, they did a test and that was also a package where the  stuff like that, transfer  although those three may of been carrying weapons, they split open the policeman, but this does seem to  basically at , well not no, not indiscriminately they didn't say that but they shot innocent people, I mean like I said well the  I mean that's got to kill  in those streets and stuff the ricochet's can go quite easily go through somebody  but there, there was, there's always been claims er, there's no I R A gunmen there