negative and excluding people, but I also think that labels  can be very, very positive and very, very important and that's, I think that's why  erm, people thought up the word feminism and yeah, okay we have to think about the word and we have to think about what it means for us so  yeah, a lot of pe , er people don't want to call themselves feminists because the label has such negative connotations, but it does also mean very positive things, it's a way of bringing people together, it's a way of  supporting each other, it's, you know it's, brings solidarity to the movement  and people need labels.