Schalke are only 11th and Dortmund are 12th in the Bundesliga at the moment while Arsenal are also outside the Champions League places in their domestic league .
Arsenal are eighth in the Premier League after seven matches .
Schalke are only 11th and Dortmund are 12th in the Bundesliga at the moment while Arsenal , who are eighth in the Premier League after seven matches , are also outside the Champions League places in their domestic league .