I knew about Shep through reading his books , which my parents had when I was growing up .
I remember seeing Shep 's old PBS show a couple of times back in the day ; I only got Shep 's his radio stuff a few years ago .
I knew about Shep through reading his books , which my parents had when I was growing up and I remember seeing his old PBS show a couple of times back in the day ; I only got into his radio stuff a few years ago .