I talked about some mechanical systems that we could rig up for Paul where he could use a rope clamp .
Paul became open to the idea of using these rope clamps to ascend sections of the rope to , to get up on Paul 's own steam .
I talked about some mechanical systems that we could rig up for Paul where he could use a rope clamp and he became open to the idea of using these rope clamps to ascend sections of the rope to , to get up on his own steam .