Even the fleeting Norse presence in Vinland left definite archaeological remains at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland .
It seems logical that the allegedly more extensive Phoenician and Carthaginian presence would have left similar evidence .
Since even the fleeting Norse presence in Vinland left definite archaeological remains at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland , it seems logical that the allegedly more extensive Phoenician and Carthaginian presence would have left similar evidence .