Speaker 1
I love disney world. My mom is a dentist. I enjoy meeting new people. I work for a computer company. I am a mom.
Speaker 2
I like using coupons. I have 5 dogs and 3 rats. I like sunset walks. I like to paint. I go to college full time to get my degree.
Speaker 1
I love meeting new people. I have been to Disney World more than once. I'm working in a computer company. I had a cat and now i have kids. I have 2 kids and my mom is a dentist.
Speaker 2
I love walking in the sunsets. I'm in college and studying art and music. I have 5 dogs and I like to paint. I have 2 kids. I have 3 rats and i sell them.
Speaker 1
Hey, I love to met new people! What are your hobbies?
Speaker 2
I love to walk in the sunsets and you?
Speaker 1
I try to go to disney world whenever I can. What do you do for a living?
Speaker 2
I am in college full time to get my degree in music and art.
Speaker 1
How fun! I'm employed by a computer company. Tell me more about you :).
Speaker 2
I love my 5 dogs and I paint all the time.
Speaker 1
I loved when I was only a fur-mom! Now I have humans lol.
Speaker 2
Wow I have 2 kids and they are not cheap so I use coupons for everything.
Speaker 1
Me too! I get discounts on dentistry too because of my mom.
Speaker 2
Well I breed show rats and sell them. I have 3 right now.
Speaker 1
How fun! Have a nice day.
Speaker 2
You have a nice day too.
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Speaker 1
I love meeting new people. I have been to Disney World more than once. I'm working in a computer company. I had a cat and now i have kids. I have 2 kids and my mom is a dentist.
Speaker 2
I love walking in the sunsets. I'm in college and studying art and music. I have 5 dogs and I like to paint. I have 2 kids. I have 3 rats and i sell them.
Speaker 1
How are your dogs doing?
Speaker 2
Oh, they're doing ok! They won't leave the show rats alone, and they have a performance tomorrow. The dogs wouldn't hurt them, but they like to chase them around, and it gives the rats anxiety. Thinking of taking them to an animal psychologist. 
Speaker 1
Oh that sounds frustrating for the rats. What about the kids? Are they interested to keep the rats? Or they're more happy with the dogs?
Speaker 2
They're happier with the dogs. None of us are in love with the rats, but selling them pays my tuition, and they sell at a higher price when they perform well. 
Speaker 1
You're right. My mom can't help unfortunately as she is a dentist. But I'm sure she has kept a lot of friendships from the university and if I'm not wrong I remember one of them was a therapist for animals. I will ask my mom to make sure and if she knew someone I will send you the contact information for sure. How is the college going?
Speaker 2
That's so kind of you! Thank you (and your mom)! My art classes are going well. Music is not so great. I can play well, but I'm not great at composition. How's the computer industry? 
Speaker 1
I'm sure you will achieve a good level in composition with exercise. Well, I really like my job. I've always been weak at presentations and convincing people, so nothing better than being a programmer would fulfil my job requirement. I have very busy days though and I feel I should take a short trip to the south as soon as possible.
Speaker 2
Are you thinking Disney World? If you want to change it up, I live in the south (North Carolina). You could bring the kids to visit. 
Speaker 1
That sounds great. I'm actually thinking about a new and calm beach to relax. I have been several times to Disney World. I confess it still makes me happy though and for sure it will be a great news for the kids. 
Speaker 2
I have never been to Disney World. I'll go once the kids are old enough to really remember it. 
Speaker 1
It seems that you don't enjoy the Disney World much as you're going to give it only one chance, lol. Is North Carolina a beach city?
Speaker 2
I may give it more than one, but Disney World can be quite expensive for a family. North Carolina is a state with a coastline on the Atlantic. Many beach cities. We go most summers. It's an affordable get away. I try to be as frugal as I can, especially now that I am in school.
3 days
Speaker 1
I love meeting new people. I have been to Disney World more than once. I'm working in a computer company as a computer programmer. I had a cat and now I have kids. I have 2 kids and my mom is a dentist. I like my job. I'm busy at work. I'd like to take a short vacation to the south.
Speaker 2
I love walking in the sunsets. I'm in college and studying art and music. My art classes are going well. My music classes are not going well. I can play music well. I'm not good at music composition. I have 5 dogs and I like to paint. I have 2 young kids. I have 3 rats and I sell performance rats. I live in North Carolina. My family and I go to the North Carolina beach during most summers. I like to be frugal. I have been to Disney World.
Speaker 1
Ok, it's official. I'm taking the kids to Disney World in July. I think I'm more excided than they are.
Speaker 2
I know what you mean lol! Now I want to go too... gotta feel out my kids if they wanna accompany me ;)
Speaker 1
that's so exciting! I bet they would. have you ever been there with them?
Speaker 2
Yes it is and I’m counting on you for tips since you are a pro.... also, I’m a bit concerned about the expenses:(
Speaker 1
it is definitely expensive! one of the best tings you can do is bring your own food and snacks and just pay for a locker to store them
Speaker 2
That would definitely help! I can’t wait to tell the kids... they’re going to go crazy haha... in a good way! Then I must make arrangements for my fur family while we are gone phew!
Speaker 1
THAT is always the hardest part of travel! I have two cats, and because cats dont enjoy travel like dogs do, any time I go anywhere I need to make sure I have someone to come stay at the house with them
Speaker 2
I also prefer a house cum dog sitter versus leaving them at a boarding facility!
Speaker 1
absolutely. animals do best in their own environments! what types of pets do you have?
Speaker 2
5 dogs, all yellow Labs or Labzillas as we call them since they are almost 100 lbs each :) The rats are easy to care for, just gotta keep them protected from the dogs lol... all that’s missing from the party is cats
Speaker 1
WOW! that's a lot of pups! and I used to have pet rats. they were amazing; I loved them and used to be so annoyed that other people didn't! it's got to be tough to find a pet sitter to care for such a big bunch of pets, huh?
Speaker 2
You bet but I think you’ll agree that in the end it’s all worth the time and energy!!
7 days
Speaker 1
I love meeting new people. I have been to Disney World more than once. I'm working in a computer company as a computer programmer. I had a cat and now I have kids. I have 2 kids and my mom is a dentist. I like my job. I'm busy at work. I'd like to take a short vacation to the south. I am taking my kids to Disney World in July. I have two cats. I used to have pet rats.
Speaker 2
I love walking in the sunsets. I'm in college and studying art and music. My art classes are going well. My music classes are not going well. I can play music well. I'm not good at music composition. I like to paint. I have 2 young kids. I have 3 rats and I sell performance rats. I live in North Carolina. My family and I go to the North Carolina beach during most summers. I like to be frugal. I have been to Disney World. I want to go to Disney World. I have 5 yellow labs. I do not have cats.
Speaker 1
After speaking with you, I miss having pet rats. Will you have any for sale soon?
Speaker 2
I will. I'm almost done training this last set, and I'm expecting to have another litter in the next month or so. Do you want me to hold one back for you?
Speaker 1
That would be great! I am a bit concerned about having rats around my cats. I need to keep them separate.
Speaker 2
That's why I don't have any cats! lol! My dogs and kids do love to play with my rats, though. It wears them all out at once. It's a win-win! lol!
Speaker 1
And finally you can get some sleep! LOL. You have so many dogs. Five dogs?? It seems like they would be running around all the time.
Speaker 2
They do, but it's the principle of diminishing returns. After two or so, they actually become less of a burden because you've already got a couple, so you're already buying food, having them go outside to the bathroom, etc... Plus, they start to keep each other company and wear each other out. And the dogs wear the kids out too. I'm tired just thinking about my life! lol!
Speaker 1
Animals are great for kids. They learn so much about lifespan and caring for others. Dogs are not toys or devices. They are living things, with feelings and needs. 
Speaker 2
You're so right. I know that the first time I learned about loss was when my dog passed away. That's something that I don't think enough people talk about. I think we try to shield kids from so many things, that we don't allow them to learn to face painful feelings in a safe environment.
Speaker 1
In the past, death was not something unfamiliar to children. They saw animals be born and die. It's not cruel or unnatural. Nature is a teacher that pulls no punches.
Speaker 2
Well, and God gave us Disney World to make us all feel better again! lol!
Speaker 1
DW is a great place for kids. I love seeing the animals in a natural setting. Much better than zoos. 
Speaker 2
Agreed. It truly is the happiest place on earth. I can't wait to get back there!
7 days 6 hours
Speaker 1
I love meeting new people. I have been to Disney World more than once. I'm working in a computer company as a computer programmer. I had a cat and now I have kids. I have 2 kids and my mom is a dentist. I like my job. I'm busy at work. I'd like to take a short vacation to the south. I am taking my kids to Disney World in July. I have two cats. I used to have pet rats. I want a new pet rat. I believe kids can learn a lot from taking care of animals. I like Disney World. I like seeing animals in a natural setting.
Speaker 2
I love walking in the sunsets. I'm in college and studying art and music. My art classes are going well. My music classes are not going well. I can play music well. I'm not good at music composition. I like to paint. I have 2 young kids. I have 3 rats and I sell performance rats. I train and sell pet rats. I will have rats ready to sell soon. I live in North Carolina. My family and I go to the North Carolina beach during most summers. I like to be frugal. I have been to Disney World. I want to go to Disney World. I have 5 yellow labs. I do not have cats.
Speaker 1
I set up a special room where I can keep my rat. That way the cats won't be able to get to him.
Speaker 2
Nice! Now you're all ready to get a new rat! If you want a performance one I just need another week and then I'll have one ready for you
Speaker 1
What is the training process for a rat?
Speaker 2
I go through teaching them a set of tricks with food reinforcement. Some take better to it than others, I can get some to do cool acrobatics
Speaker 1
What's your favorite trick to teach?
Speaker 2
I like teaching them to jump through a small hoop. It's really satisfying when they get it, and I think it's just so cute to watch
Speaker 1
Awww.  I could use a performance rat but are there competition I can bring him to?
Speaker 2
There are exhibitions mainly. You should research the fancy rat society (literally the name haha). There are competitions, but it takes some traveling to get to them
Speaker 1
There probably aren't too many out there, huh?
Speaker 2
It's a small community for sure, but definitely dedicated. But some people just buy the performance rats for fun or to post videos
Speaker 1
Can I get 2 trained and brought to my house?
Speaker 2
Sure! I'll have them ready next week. I'll teach you all the hand symbols for the different tricks, and how to keep training them if you have any specific tricks in mind
14 days 6 hours