Speaker 1
I am a meat eater. I like running. I wear pants. My parents grew up in alaska. I work as a programmer.
Speaker 2
I'm a painter. I like making music. I don't want a boss. I try to love everyone. I live within my means.
Speaker 1
I like meat. I like reading and running. My favorite kind of books are science fiction.  I work as a programmer part time. I like my work. I live with my parent.
Speaker 2
I like meat. I have to use my money carefully. Chicken is my favorite meat. I like painting and composing music. I'm not a big fan of science fiction. I do not have a boss. I am self-employed.
Speaker 1
Do you like meat. I am a meat glutton.
Speaker 2
Sure, sometimes! As long as I can afford it.
Speaker 1
What is your favorite type of meat?
Speaker 2
Chicken, mostly. Its the cheapest and easiest to come by.
Speaker 1
Of course. Do you have an hobby at all?
Speaker 2
I do :) I like to paint and sometimes I compose music. You?
Speaker 1
When I am not reading, you will see me running.
Speaker 2
What kind of books do you like to read? And do you work?.
Speaker 1
I love sci fi and yes I m a programmer.
Speaker 2
Sci fi is nice sometimes, but I prefer tamer things myself. You like your job?
Speaker 1
Of course yes I have always loved it since I was living with my parent.
Speaker 2
Oh.. Is your boss nice? I dont work under anyone so im curious.
Speaker 1
I work part time and he has to be nice or else I will dump him.
Speaker 2
Haha, no mercy huh? I cant stand bosses at all, so im luckily self employed.
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Speaker 1
I like meat. I like reading and running. My favorite kind of books are science fiction.  I work as a programmer part time. I like my work. I live with my parent.
Speaker 2
I like meat. I have to use my money carefully. Chicken is my favorite meat. I like painting and composing music. I'm not a big fan of science fiction. I do not have a boss. I am self-employed.
Speaker 1
Have you ever sold one of your paintings?
Speaker 2
I have only sold a few as commissions. Nothing fancy though. I would like to have enough pieces to put on a show and maybe sell some there. How many do you think I should have for that?
Speaker 1
i would think maybe 10 no more than 12. I think you want enough to showcase your art but no to much to overwhelm anyone. What type of painting do you like to do? 
Speaker 2
I like to paint landscapes, but all my commissions were for pets. I like to paint with realism. Nothing too fantasy based. I have a friend who wants me to paint Jurassic Park, but I don't like science fiction like you do.
Speaker 1
Oh wow, i love looking at realism type painting. I wish i could paint and i can understand not wanting to paint Jurassic park since your not into science fiction i'm pretty sure your friend will understand. What type of painting do you plan to do for your show?
Speaker 2
I haven't decided. Maybe I will do something music based since that's one of my other passions. How about you? What have you been programming lately?
Speaker 1
I have been working on the game for this big company. It's fun and can get stressful at time but all in all i'm enjoying it and can't wait to finish and see it come together
Speaker 2
Maybe one day I will paint the art for one of the games you code. You never know. Could be a fun way to team up. 
Speaker 1
Oh that would be interesting and fun. You right you never know. i see you said your your own boss. Is painting your full time job are do you own another business?
Speaker 2
My music composition is my main source of income. I work freelance and do different things like add piano to an existing song and sometimes I even get to compose a jingle for a commercial!
Speaker 1
compose a jingle that sounds like so much phone. Do you plan on doing ore of that?
Speaker 2
I prefer to create real music, but if the price is right, I would create more jingles. I work with a tight budget. 
 7 hours
Speaker 1
I like meat. I like reading and running. My favorite kind of books are science fiction.  I work as a programmer part time. I like my work. I enjoy my work as a programmer. I enjoy seeing a project through to completion. I am not my own boss. I live with my parent. I enjoy realist art.
Speaker 2
I like meat. I have to use my money carefully. Chicken is my favorite meat. I like painting and composing music. I prefer to paint landscapes. I make art for money. I prefer realism. I'm not a big fan of science fiction. I do not have a boss. I am self-employed. I am also a musician. I would consider making art for a videogame. I have multiple avenues of revenue. Most of them are music based. I am currently prioritizing making money over my artistic freedom.
Speaker 1
The project we're working on at work is almost done! I know you said you prefer realism but I was thinking about commissioning a piece to commemorate us finishing the game. It might be a great way for you to break into the industry!
Speaker 2
I can give it a try. Maybe I will find I like it more then I thought. Give me the details of the game and what you would like and I will get it together for you.
Speaker 1
Absolutely! I will be able to get you the details by the end of the week. I'll email you. By the way, how did your last music recording go?
Speaker 2
It went great. It all the ends down and about to send it off to an artist to see if they want to sing it for me. I can't sing to save my life, but I will write for someone.
Speaker 1
me neither haha. That would be awesome to hear something you wrote on the radio!  I'm listening to kpop now. (It's my favorite station.) It helps me focus on my work. Programming can be pretty mundane. If you could choose, which genre would you prefer to hear your music with?
Speaker 2
I try to write a little of everything. This gives me more opinions of who can sing the songs I write and not just trying to stay in one. I never get into listening to kpop, but I can see why it would help with your work.
Speaker 1
That's cool. Variety is always good. 
Speaker 2
What is your game about if you don't mind me asking?
Speaker 1
My company is currently working on programming for a neuro game. It's to help people with alzheimers and degeneration with memory. We will need different pictures for them. I thought of your art and thought you could potentially be a good fit for this one. 
Speaker 2
Thank you for that. I'm sure I can figure something out. It is a little out of my wheel house, but I am sure I can do it. Just send me all the details and maybe an idea of what you are looking for.
Speaker 1
For sure! I'll get everything to you by end of week from corporate, but to give you a better sense of it now, we'll need different images for the memory games. Matching one image to a duplicate for example is something this game would do. Landscapes would be a perfect one for imagery and heightening senses for these patients. Finding objects within a painting, and so on. 
Speaker 2
Just from that I will get started on rough drawing some ideas. I am excited. This isn't something I usually do, but looking forward to it.
4 days 7 hours
Speaker 1
I like meat. I like reading and running. My favorite kind of books are science fiction.  I work as a programmer part time. I like my work. I enjoy my work as a programmer. I enjoy seeing a project through to completion. I am not my own boss. I live with my parent. I enjoy realist art. My work project is almost done. I thought about commemorating the game by commissioning a piece. I do not sing. I would like to hear your song on the radio. i listen to kpop. I listen when i work.  I think programming can be mundane. I like variety. My company is doing programming for a neuro game to help patients.
Speaker 2
I like meat. I have to use my money carefully. Chicken is my favorite meat. I like painting and composing music. I prefer to paint landscapes. I make art for money. I prefer realism. I'm not a big fan of science fiction. I do not have a boss. I am self-employed. I am also a musician. I would consider making art for a videogame. I have multiple avenues of revenue. Most of them are music based. I am currently prioritizing making money over my artistic freedom. I am sending my recording to an artist to see if they want to sing it. I write music for others. I do not sing. I write different styles of songs. i do not listen to K-pop. I can understand it would be good for work. Art for a game is out of my wheel house. I can start some drawings and ideas.
Speaker 1
I am sending an email to you first thing in the morning with details about the game art.
Speaker 2
How fun! I look forward to seeing it and hopefully inspiration will strike. Any idea when the testing with the neuro patients will start?
Speaker 1
We are in the developing stage now for a few months so it might take a few more months.  What landscapes have you painted?
Speaker 2
All kinds. Mountains, the beach, fields. I guess I kind of stay away from desert landscapes. I'm glad you think landscapes will work for the game art. Do you get along pretty well with your team?
Speaker 1
They are pretty cool.  How do you like being self-employed?
Speaker 2
It has its pros and cons. I kind of like the flexibility that comes with being my own boss, but sometimes I miss the team aspect. And the tax paperwork is a pain in the behind. Sometimes I miss the simplicity of the W-2.
Speaker 1
I like my work but sometimes wish I were my own boss.
Speaker 2
Have you ever thought of doing any projects on your own? You kind of have to have that entrepreneurial spirit.
Speaker 1
I have thought about learning more about painting and selling some art but I need to develop my skill more.
Speaker 2
Totally understandable. Even I have my own hesitancy about doing a gallery show. I meant side projects in terms of programming. Is that a thing? Like getting together with other programmers on your own?
Speaker 1
That sounds like a great idea.  I haven't explored that option before and don't know how successful others have been. But, I have heard of app development which could be profitable.
Speaker 2
Just don't let your boss find out or use any of the company's IP! Maybe you can derive some inspiration form your science fiction reading?
5 days 7 hours
Speaker 1
I like meat. I like reading and running. My favorite kind of books are science fiction.  I work as a programmer part time. I like my work. I enjoy my work as a programmer. I enjoy seeing a project through to completion. I am not my own boss. I live with my parent. I enjoy realist art. My work project is almost done. I thought about commemorating the game by commissioning a piece. I do not sing. I would like to hear your song on the radio. i listen to kpop. I listen when i work.  I think programming can be mundane. I like variety. My company is doing programming for a neuro game to help patients. I am a game developer. I sometimes wish I were my own boss. I have considered learning about painting and selling art. I haven't considered programming on the side.
Speaker 2
I like meat. I have to use my money carefully. Chicken is my favorite meat. I like painting and composing music. I prefer to paint landscapes. I make art for money. I prefer realism. I'm not a big fan of science fiction. I do not have a boss. I am self-employed. I am also a musician. I would consider making art for a videogame. I have multiple avenues of revenue. Most of them are music based. I am currently prioritizing making money over my artistic freedom. I am sending my recording to an artist to see if they want to sing it. I write music for others. I do not sing. I write different styles of songs. i do not listen to K-pop. I can understand it would be good for work. Art for a game is out of my wheel house. I can start some drawings and ideas. I've painted all kinds of landscapes. I have hesitancy to do an art gallery show.  I don't like tax paperwork.
Speaker 1
I got so annoyed with my team this week. 
Speaker 2
Oh no. Seems like it wasn't a nice week. What happened?
Speaker 1
We had a team meeting to discuss progress on our neuro game project.  Too many "new" requirements and changes are being requested so the work we've done has to be redone, again!
Speaker 2
That's annoying. S o it's back to the drawing board. Do you think it would still be finished on time?
Speaker 1
Now you sound like the project manager, haha!  No, there is no way we will finish on time with summer vacations starting to take people away.  
Speaker 2
Haha I can imagine. I get that question a lot from artists. I guess it's time for you to take a holiday then?
Speaker 1
I'll take mine later in the summer.  I know a lot of my teammates have kids off from school so they need to take theirs first.  I'm really looking forward to getting away from work for awhile though!
Speaker 2
Oh yes it can be very refreshing. It's amazing how much stress one can pile up without knowing. Any idea on where you are going for holiday?
Speaker 1
I'll go to my family's lake house.  It's about 4 hours away from where I live. It's in a pretty remote area, so it's easy to turn off and just enjoy nature!  How about you, any vacation plans?
Speaker 2
Ah a chance to be zen in nature, love it. I just came back from Barbados. It was so great, I wish I could have stayed forever.
Speaker 1
Wow! That is an amazing trip!!! I guess being self-employed is the way to go. How long did you stay?
Speaker 2
Haha indeed! It was so much fun. Spent so much money, it's not even funny. I was there for a week. A buddy of mine leaves there so I got accommodation for free.
10 days 7 hours