Speaker 1
I am a hunter. I like to go hunting. My favorite animal to hunt is deer. Deer are over populated and that concerns me. I am generally concerned about wildlife.
Speaker 2
I like to draw landscape scenery. I enjoy walking walking in the nearby parks. My favorite movie is the dark knight. I work as an english teacher. I volunteer at a homeless shelter.
Speaker 1
I think wildlife is an important issue. I support donating to charities. I like to hunt.
Speaker 2
I think homelessness is an important issue. I go to school. I like to walk through parks. I like to draw landscapes. I sell my drawings for charity. I donate money to soup kitchens and shelters. I've raised $650 for charity with my drawings.
Speaker 1
Hey, I think wildlife is an issue..
Speaker 2
I think homelessness is an issue.
Speaker 1
Both are valid concerns. Why do you feel that way?
Speaker 2
Well, as I walk through parks on my way to school, hurting people everywhere.
Speaker 1
I understand. How can we solve that?
Speaker 2
I like to draw landscapes and sell them for charity.
Speaker 1
What does that have to do with homelessness?
Speaker 2
The money that I receive goes to soup kitchens and shelters.
Speaker 1
Oh that is great. How much money have you raised?
Speaker 2
In the past year, I've raised $650.
Speaker 1
That is great. I like to hunt..
Speaker 2
What do you like to hunt for?
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Speaker 1
I think wildlife is an important issue. I support donating to charities. I like to hunt.
Speaker 2
I think homelessness is an important issue. I go to school. I like to walk through parks. I like to draw landscapes. I sell my drawings for charity. I donate money to soup kitchens and shelters. I've raised $650 for charity with my drawings.
Speaker 1
I read about a project to help save wild turkeys in a hunting magazine. They estimate there are more wild turkeys now than there were in the 1600's!
Speaker 2
That's really interesting, but if there are more than there were several hundred years ago, do they really need to be saved?
Speaker 1
Maybe not turkeys specifically, but I think it can help to show people that these types of projects can make a big difference. 
Speaker 2
Gotcha I see. I love going on walks in parks and other places outside. I love nature, and I agree that these projects are important.
Speaker 1
Do you ever do any paintings of wild animals while you are out there. Or are your paintings more focused on landscapes.
Speaker 2
I do a little of both. I don't paint while I am outside, but I take inspiration from things I see in nature and try to re-create them. I have done some drawings if birds sitting in trees and things like that.
Speaker 1
That sounds really cool! I would love to see one someday. Have you ever thought about doing some paintings of specific endangered birds to raise money for their conservation?
Speaker 2
I have not, but that is a great idea! What kinds of animals would you recommend I draw that are endangered?
Speaker 1
There's an owl called a Blakiston’s fish owl which is a gorgeous and massive owl from Asia. I think you would enjoy painting it. It looks super menacing!
Speaker 2
Yeah, I just looked it up, it's a really cool looking bird. I will definitely have to do something like that in the future. What do you normally like to hunt for?
Speaker 1
Since conservation is so important to me, I'm always careful about what I hunt for. I really enjoy hunting boar since some places have an overpopulation issue. Farmers will actually pay you to hunt them on their property.
Speaker 2
Yes I have heard a lot about that. Here in Texas wild boars are a big issue, and a lot of people go hunting for them. I have heard that it is a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1
I think wildlife is an important issue. I support donating to charities. I like to hunt. I am literate. I have an aesthetic appreciation for owls. I appreciate conservation efforts, so I hunt only overpopulated animals like boars.
Speaker 2
I think homelessness is an important issue. I go to school. I like to walk through parks. I like to draw landscapes. I sell my drawings for charity. I donate money to soup kitchens and shelters. I've raised $650 for charity with my drawings. I love nature and care about conservation. I paint natural scenes. I live in Texas.
Speaker 1
What is your favorite ecosystem to paint?
Speaker 2
I just love painting happy little trees in the forest! Do you paint?
Speaker 1
You must be influenced by Bob Ross! No, I don't paint. I like nature paintings though. I like to look at them.
Speaker 2
I'll have to show you some of my paintings some time. Are you currently hunting any animals?
Speaker 1
Deer right now because there are way too many of them in this area. Fortunately, I really enjoy venison!
Speaker 2
There really are alot huh? So you ever feel bad while hunting?
Speaker 1
No because I have seen starving deer. Starving to death is so horrible. It is more humane to thin the herd before it reaches that point.
Speaker 2
That is a good way to look at it. I really appreciate your efforts on that front. You must get a lot of meat!
Speaker 1
Yes I do! Do you like venison? I'd love to share some meat with you!
Speaker 2
I actually have never tried venison before. What is it like?
Speaker 1
It's very rich and earthy. You have to be careful how you prepare it though or it will dry out easily!
Speaker 2
Oh and no one likes dry meat. I bet you have a ton of experience cooking it. I'd love to try it sometime!
 14 hours
Speaker 1
I think wildlife is an important issue. I support donating to charities. I like to hunt. I hunt deer. I enjoy venison. I do not feel bad about hunting. I believe it can be humane to hunt. I know how to prepare venison. I am literate. I have an aesthetic appreciation for owls. I appreciate conservation efforts, so I hunt only overpopulated animals like boars. I do not paint. I enjoy looking at nature paintings.
Speaker 2
I think homelessness is an important issue. I go to school. I like to walk through parks. I like to draw landscapes. I sell my drawings for charity. I donate money to soup kitchens and shelters. I've raised $650 for charity with my drawings. I love nature and care about conservation. I paint natural scenes. I love to paint. I like painting trees in the forest. I live in Texas. I have never eaten venison. I would like to try venison.
Speaker 1
I have hunted  recently and would like to share some venison with you. 
Speaker 2
That is very kind of you to offer.
Speaker 1
Great, maybe we'll have a barbecue at some point over the next week if the weather is nice. How is your drawing and painting going at the moment?
Speaker 2
My artwork is going well, thanks for asking. I have sold a couple more drawings and will again donate the $ to charity.
Speaker 1
That's great, I'm glad you are still enjoying it. And it's so kind that you give the money to charity. What charity are you supporting at the moment?
Speaker 2
I'm currently donating money to the local Salvation Army because they feed the homeless and help where needed.
Speaker 1
I think homeless charities are so important. Where I live there are a lot of homeless people and there hasn't been much support for them which is such a shame. Do you enjoy going to art galleries, or do you prefer actually doing the artwork?
Speaker 2
I enjoy both. I find a great deal of inspiration from other art. But if I had to pick just one, I'd definitely choose doing my artwork any day of the week.
Speaker 1
Yea that makes sense. I like art galleries too, and whenever I visit them I think about taking up an art but I'm just not very artistic! I wouldn't mind trying out sculpture with clay, I think that would be quite fun! Have you ever used clay before?
Speaker 2
I have actually and rather enjoy that as well as drawing and painting.
Speaker 1
Maybe I'll look into it as something else to do, I need more hobbies!
Speaker 2
I don't believe you have to be an expert at anything, as long as you enjoy doing it, whatever it is. Yes, I'm currently donating profits to charity, but I continue my artwork because I really enjoy it - it's at times therapeutical also.
4 days 14 hours
Speaker 1
I think wildlife is an important issue. I support donating to charities. I like to hunt. I like to go hunting for elk or deer. I enjoy venison. I like to organize barbecues. I do not feel bad about hunting. I believe it can be humane to hunt. I know how to prepare venison. I am literate. I have an aesthetic appreciation for owls. I appreciate conservation efforts, so I hunt only overpopulated animals like boars. I do not paint. I enjoy looking at nature paintings. I like to visit art galleries. I would like to be an artist but I feel that I'm not artistic enough. I would like to try out making clay sculptures. I am troubled by the homelessness problem in my community, especially the lack of support for them. I want to find new hobbies.
Speaker 2
I think homelessness is an important issue. I go to school. I like to walk through parks. I like to draw landscapes. I sell my drawings for charity. I donate money to soup kitchens and shelters. I've raised $650 for charity with my drawings. I like to donate money to the Salvation Army.  I love nature and care about conservation. I paint natural scenes. I love to paint. I like painting trees in the forest. I live in Texas. I have never eaten venison. I would like to try venison. I want my charity to support the homeless. I like to visit art galleries because they inspire my own art. I prefer to work on my own art than look at others, mainly. I like to make clay sculptures. I don't think you have to be highly skilled to make art. I like to make art as a therapeutic exercise.
Speaker 1
Do you just like to paint forest scenes or do you paint the scenery of other landscapes too? I find things like the Aurora Borealis in the tundra to be absolutely beautiful. With how big Texas is, I'm sure there's tons of inspiration for scenery that you could draw just from Texas alone.
Speaker 2
There is no shortage of wild things running around Texas! As much as I like landscapes I have been considering adding animals into them. Watching wild creatures relaxes me.
Speaker 1
That sounds very cool. But aren't animals harder to paint? I can imagine it's hard to get their proportions right.
Speaker 2
They are hard in a way.  I think its just something you have to keep doing until your brain just gets it subconsciously. Time in the saddle. Maybe I'll start small.
Speaker 1
That makes sense. It's not exactly the same thing, but hunting is like that, too. After enough experience, you don't really have to think about your movements. I bet you'll master the skill quickly. Think you'll try any owls?
Speaker 2
I would love to try owls! They are difficult to view in the wild. Looking at pictures isn't the same as having something in front of you. Hunting would be good for me on a few levels. I should get out there.
Speaker 1
That's a good point. I suppose if you want to insert them into a landscape, you'll need to see how they appear in a natural context, not just on a screen. Hunting definitely can teach you a lot about how animals move. Observing them so closely may help your painting!
Speaker 2
Photos of thing are never as good as seeing them move in front of you. And the landscape in which they appear is equally important. I think hunting immerses you in the wild, makes you part of it. Plus, with the price of meat, it could be worth my while!
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