Moving Towards Sustainability: OJS Publishing at OsloMet University Library
Eikebrokk, Trude
The University Library at OsloMet started running the OJS platform for publishing open access journals in 2011. The platform quickly grew from three start-up journals, to today's 15 published journals. The free service expanded from focusing on running a platform, to offering support on all levels of academic journal publishing. They provide advice on peer review, DOis, indexing, publication formats, financing and facilitate experience sharing between journals. At a cost, they also publish journals for other institutions in Norway, and regularly receive requests to include more journals. This presentation shares experiences from building a publishing platform, lessons learned along the way, and goals for the future of sustainable library publishing
 I am here to talk to you about our work towards sustainability in our open access to general publishing. I used to work for the Osama Tumamista Library as a TV exclusive social services there. Now I am the head of the old town management at City of Eastside's institutional set. But I am a librarian. I have been working with open access for my entire career. Just a moment to be fair. But at least for the last 12 years I've been working with open access. Just to give you a quick partner. Thank you. Just to give you a quick view of where I'm from. We also went to the University of Norway and it has about 2200 employees and 20,000 students. We are the third largest university in Norway. Our starting vocation college is to be educated teachers, nurses, engineers, librarians and many more. The University of Norway has four libraries around the campus and there are around 80 employees. Not all of them have their own schools and stuff as well. We also have our own section for the media which is where our publishing services are based. And how did we end up as a local writers publisher? Well this was back in 2010. At this point in time we were already running an institutional post story that was kind of a way into two organizations publishing. We were familiar with the concept of open access but we didn't have an experience in publishing journals. But there were actually three journals already at Osumas that were using the open access software. They had been in it for a while. There were probably a lot of those journals that John Moody was talking about yesterday. I think we've been in it for years and years and years. It did happen as a proposal. And we also had the three journals that wanted to start up within how that worked. So they wanted something simple to start with. It didn't require a lot of technical testing to come down how. And some of the library came into the future. And we decided to run a publishing platform. We may still go to OS because the existing journals were already familiar for that system. And everyone we talked to in Norway they already used OGS as well. And our role was to make it easier for our departments to publish journals. And we wanted to offer the technical support that we did because that was what they were asking for at that point. And we also decided to provide the services for free if the editor isn't an employee of Osumas. We actually started out with a member of the editorial team. It is an employee of Osumas. Then we would get a platform for free. But then we started seeing suspicious numbers of journals that had one editorial member from Osumas. Which meant that they got the platform for free. So we had to actually change that group. I think someone was a journalist in there. So the whole workshop, but in 2011, I'm going to say it's published on. But then our goal was to be able to provide technical support which we changed. Something unexpected happened. So many of our team went to Liberia and said we're going to publish everything with access with regards to publishing a journal. It makes sense that Liberia and they had the perfect competencies for journal publishing. Our idea was just to run a platform for free to use of support and technical support. But we were now being asked about the new peer review. How do I get index? How should the PDF look for others to be able to site time? How can I ignore exactly the next nice number? How about the code in the region publishing system and so on and so on and so on. The editors discovered that we already knew we were able to find out the states which was the hard and hard questions. And soon we were deeply involved with a few of the rooms on classrooms such as ethics, copyrights, the truth into authors. We had quite a few difficult cases throughout the years. And I sounded like we had two authors that wanted to remove a third author from the paper and also had disagreements during the review process. And how do you have that as a very new editor when it's your first time experience as for the day? And we also have one of our journals to be now complained about as someone felt that they had been cited unfairly in article two. So these were the issues that we were facing in given that was about. So we can have to change the service level from the pure technical stuff to a bit more. So now we, a lot of the work that we will do is actually use the support for the other sources and giving them the advice and guidance on everything about our manager. And we will do stuff like provide those for them, we do training, we get the visual aids, we will attempt that it will be these if you are invited. We also try to get the career have an annual meeting for editors as well as they are able to sit in the same room and we can discuss issues that come up on like if an un-difficult case is his fault. I will do advice and help with the mixing and the suitability and we will help with financing options. We will remind them when there are grants that they can apply for, you advice and help them get stable financing. And we will also help them with delivery and assessment statistics and animals and other stuff when they are applying for grants. We also have been working kind of hard with changing the view of how they do digital publishing. We find they have a very mindset from the traditional way of publishing. They are still thinking that oh the PDF has a great, but we think that they are waiting to focus on the old way of reading the journal. We started a foundation and we really created the last page. Is PDF always the format that you should go to? There is some entire rule of formats out there that are much better in lots of ways than PDFs. So we have developed our own workflow for publishing which is Sentinel. We have been doing that for quite a few years. So each of our editors has a need to get something that is more accessible than the PDFs out there. We also talked to them about how they do the publishing. Until the time they voice their articles, they once every time, they are published six at once. So we will try to get them to publish in more email in two months or two years. That is something that is built with them. And it makes more sense. As you can see, more stable work, people just work through them as they get them. And then publish on us in this channel. And the author doesn't have to work with them either. And they are working with them. Do you really need to run continuous page number if you need to have issues? You can just set the address. And we try to encourage them to, for example, fill their abstracts. Instead of adding just written abstracts, you can have a video on front page of the journal as well. And then we will provide them with a platform, storage and a possibility to fill in authors. So try to inspire them to a bit more digital publishing set. And then something happening here. We had a good thing going. We were running our channel, so also met Jones. And then we started getting a lot of requests for prize quotes from Jones that were not for the need to be also met. And then we got quotes and got emails and got form letters. And then also asked us how much do we need to contribute to a platform. And then we had kind of green bin cover approach. Our focus had been on the comments from the University and the Jones at the moment. But now we're forced to look at the question, how should we handle all of this with this comment? Should we say no? How should we consider that? Would it be fair to have the platform for this? Well, we should use it. And so we decided that we will look to open for a question on this and Jones. And we were going to charge the service. But only have to cover our own costs with providing it. And we also decided that we should have a free training for libraries and other institutions if they were able to publish Jones as well. So we gave the option, we had the payout, and then you'll publish it for you. Or we can train the library and then download or just help you for free. So then we would come again with the tools to do it ourselves as well as providing it and it's not to publish. We do no marketing at all. We do request that we get it just by going out to still get a month. And you want to request a chance, not all of them have, but we'll be a couple and we'll see if we want to come to this month. And right now we're publishing to you, Jones, apart from other universities or university colleges in the world. And I just wanted to give you a quick view of the open access publishing that's in Norway. And I have a few commercial publishers like that in the last, they will publish my journals and also open access books. They're fairly new to the OE market. That's a cool publisher with traditional long traditional roots. The reason is such is because it's open access to fun. And they have nine journals in the sense that it's getting to be a substantial publisher. And then we have the old Scandinavian University Press. They have 26 journals. I think they are the largest publisher of open access journals in Norway. As you can see from the name, this is almost out as open-bound in Norwegian universities, 20 years ago I think, they became a commercial company as well. And then we have the Universal Publisher. And they actually get some to be the most popular of the open access publishers in Norway. And then we have the Universal Oslo International 19 journals. Also, the Metropolitan University has 16. The University of Kamsa has 12. I took out some student journals and research journals, research report journals. The University of Oregon has a lot of journals. And then there are a lot of small publishers as well. And I think that's why I like these numbers. I think this is a journal published by G.S. It's quite a large amount. What's next? The commercial publishers, they will either charge a journal and you give the fee for the publication, or they will add anything. Whereas the University publishers, when you use the word, you have to give free. And you can give a few of the journals that are the same. But as you can see, the The University of Kamsa is actually of course working with the publication landscape in Norway. Because we have the majority of the journals. We had to find a way to give a price for our services. And our goal was to give a fair pricing. We wanted to encourage competition in a way to condition the asset. We think that's a new way in the commercial publishers. So I think a lot of money, they are not quite as good as the ones that are in the market. So we made the price of all this as a fairly simple. We'll just take the labor cost, the social cost and all the resources and some really good journals. And divided by 15. And my goal to mine, price per journal is 7,200 euros. Fairly simple, right. But then we have journal number 16. So we have to recapitulate that the same cost with the specific and more resources on journal number 16. So when we divide the same cost with six in Germans. And so we end up with a price set in neutral, such as 6,750 euros. It was interesting to compare to the cost of the university in Germany, which was around 6,000 euros. And the same price strategy. The problem with this price model is that we will never reach zero because they are already charging the new journals their proportion of the cost. We have to cover all the free journals in a way. Each new journal on the page will their part for the cost. So we really need to look at the new price moment for this. Also a few of our journals are looking to charge you maybe sees and I will change the equation. So one of the bureaucratic issues that they see is normally because we're in a large institution, we have to find a way to do how do you want to somehow do it. We are moving towards sustainability. We never reach it. Definitely need to read the something there. And we are also concerned with the fairness here. We're working on working that's a job because we want to compete a little bit with the commercial publishers, but we don't want to outcompet them as well. Because we both have to get fair markets in a way. That's because the university of government is on the top row and it will be right to use government funds to outcompet a commercial publisher. We can't use government funds to sustain a publishing service and does not cover its own costs. But at the same time, we need to change the policy market. I think the publishers, the Vietnamese profits and they do it for others. So that's not quite the same. So we are considering looking into new way of doing this, maybe a national joint publishing platform that could sustain its own costs. We can do that. We are considering a project that could be into that. And in a way, we are already doing some collaborations on national level, like the strategy and the use and translation of OJST to bring an example for the international collaborating. There's one thing that's written and this is a very slowly able, really publishing landscape. I don't think we can reach an inclusion for quite a while yet. I'm not sure we're going to end up in a dying world. That's something to think about. Thank you.
 I am here to talk to you about our work towards sustainability in our open access to general  publishing.  I used to work for the Osama Tumamista Library as a TV exclusive social services there.  Now I am the head of the old town management at City of Eastside's institutional set.  But I am a librarian.  I have been working with open access for my entire career.  Just a moment to be fair.  But at least for the last 12 years I've been working with open access.  Just to give you a quick partner.  Thank you.  Just to give you a quick view of where I'm from.  We also went to the University of Norway and it has about 2200 employees and 20,000 students.  We are the third largest university in Norway.  Our starting vocation college is to be educated teachers, nurses, engineers, librarians and many more.  The University of Norway has four libraries around the campus and there are around 80 employees.  Not all of them have their own schools and stuff as well.  We also have our own section for the media which is where our publishing services are based.  And how did we end up as a local writers publisher?  Well this was back in 2010.  At this point in time we were already running an institutional post story that was kind of a way into two organizations publishing.  We were familiar with the concept of open access but we didn't have an experience in publishing journals.  But there were actually three journals already at Osumas that were using the open access software.  They had been in it for a while.  There were probably a lot of those journals that John Moody was talking about yesterday.  I think we've been in it for years and years and years.  It did happen as a proposal.  And we also had the three journals that wanted to start up within how that worked.  So they wanted something simple to start with.  It didn't require a lot of technical testing to come down how.  And some of the library came into the future.  And we decided to run a publishing platform.  We may still go to OS because the existing journals were already familiar for that system.  And everyone we talked to in Norway they already used OGS as well.  And our role was to make it easier for our departments to publish journals.  And we wanted to offer the technical support that we did because that was what they were asking for at that point.  And we also decided to provide the services for free if the editor isn't an employee of Osumas.  We actually started out with a member of the editorial team.  It is an employee of Osumas.  Then we would get a platform for free.  But then we started seeing suspicious numbers of journals that had one editorial member from Osumas.  Which meant that they got the platform for free.  So we had to actually change that group.  I think someone was a journalist in there.  So the whole workshop, but in 2011, I'm going to say it's published on.  But then our goal was to be able to provide technical support which we changed.  Something unexpected happened.  So many of our team went to Liberia and said we're going to publish everything with access with regards to publishing a journal.  It makes sense that Liberia and they had the perfect competencies for journal publishing.  Our idea was just to run a platform for free to use of support and technical support.  But we were now being asked about the new peer review.  How do I get index?  How should the PDF look for others to be able to site time?  How can I ignore exactly the next nice number?  How about the code in the region publishing system and so on and so on and so on.  The editors discovered that we already knew we were able to find out the states which was the hard and hard questions.  And soon we were deeply involved with a few of the rooms on classrooms such as ethics, copyrights, the truth into authors.  We had quite a few difficult cases throughout the years.  And I sounded like we had two authors that wanted to remove a third author from the paper and also had disagreements during the review process.  And how do you have that as a very new editor when it's your first time experience as for the day?  And we also have one of our journals to be now complained about as someone felt that they had been cited unfairly in article two.  So these were the issues that we were facing in given that was about.  So we can have to change the service level from the pure technical stuff to a bit more.  So now we, a lot of the work that we will do is actually use the support for the other sources and giving them the advice and guidance on everything about our manager.  And we will do stuff like provide those for them, we do training, we get the visual aids, we will attempt that it will be these if you are invited.  We also try to get the career have an annual meeting for editors as well as they are able to sit in the same room and we can discuss issues that come up on like if an un-difficult case is his fault.  I will do advice and help with the mixing and the suitability and we will help with financing options.  We will remind them when there are grants that they can apply for, you advice and help them get stable financing.  And we will also help them with delivery and assessment statistics and animals and other stuff when they are applying for grants.  We also have been working kind of hard with changing the view of how they do digital publishing.  We find they have a very mindset from the traditional way of publishing.  They are still thinking that oh the PDF has a great, but we think that they are waiting to focus on the old way of reading the journal.  We started a foundation and we really created the last page.  Is PDF always the format that you should go to? There is some entire rule of formats out there that are much better in lots of ways than PDFs.  So we have developed our own workflow for publishing which is Sentinel.  We have been doing that for quite a few years.  So each of our editors has a need to get something that is more accessible than the PDFs out there.  We also talked to them about how they do the publishing.  Until the time they voice their articles, they once every time, they are published six at once.  So we will try to get them to publish in more email in two months or two years.  That is something that is built with them.  And it makes more sense.  As you can see, more stable work, people just work through them as they get them.  And then publish on us in this channel.  And the author doesn't have to work with them either.  And they are working with them.  Do you really need to run continuous page number if you need to have issues?  You can just set the address.  And we try to encourage them to, for example, fill their abstracts.  Instead of adding just written abstracts, you can have a video on front page of the journal as well.  And then we will provide them with a platform, storage and a possibility to fill in authors.  So try to inspire them to a bit more digital publishing set.  And then something happening here.  We had a good thing going.  We were running our channel, so also met Jones.  And then we started getting a lot of requests for prize quotes from Jones that were not for the need to be also met.  And then we got quotes and got emails and got form letters.  And then also asked us how much do we need to contribute to a platform.  And then we had kind of green bin cover approach.  Our focus had been on the comments from the University and the Jones at the moment.  But now we're forced to look at the question, how should we handle all of this with this comment?  Should we say no?  How should we consider that?  Would it be fair to have the platform for this?  Well, we should use it.  And so we decided that we will look to open for a question on this and Jones.  And we were going to charge the service.  But only have to cover our own costs with providing it.  And we also decided that we should have a free training for libraries and other institutions if they were able to publish Jones as well.  So we gave the option, we had the payout, and then you'll publish it for you.  Or we can train the library and then download or just help you for free.  So then we would come again with the tools to do it ourselves as well as providing it and it's not to publish.  We do no marketing at all.  We do request that we get it just by going out to still get a month.  And you want to request a chance, not all of them have, but we'll be a couple and we'll see if we want to come to this month.  And right now we're publishing to you, Jones, apart from other universities or university colleges in the world.  And I just wanted to give you a quick view of the open access publishing that's in Norway.  And I have a few commercial publishers like that in the last, they will publish my journals and also open access books.  They're fairly new to the OE market.  That's a cool publisher with traditional long traditional roots.  The reason is such is because it's open access to fun.  And they have nine journals in the sense that it's getting to be a substantial publisher.  And then we have the old Scandinavian University Press.  They have 26 journals.  I think they are the largest publisher of open access journals in Norway.  As you can see from the name, this is almost out as open-bound in Norwegian universities, 20 years ago I think, they became a commercial company as well.  And then we have the Universal Publisher.  And they actually get some to be the most popular of the open access publishers in Norway.  And then we have the Universal Oslo International 19 journals.  Also, the Metropolitan University has 16.  The University of Kamsa has 12.  I took out some student journals and research journals, research report journals.  The University of Oregon has a lot of journals.  And then there are a lot of small publishers as well.  And I think that's why I like these numbers. I think this is a journal published by G.S.  It's quite a large amount.  What's next?  The commercial publishers, they will either charge a journal and you give the fee for the publication, or they will add anything.  Whereas the University publishers, when you use the word, you have to give free.  And you can give a few of the journals that are the same.  But as you can see, the  The University of Kamsa is actually of course working with the publication landscape in Norway.  Because we have the majority of the journals.  We had to find a way to give a price for our services.  And our goal was to give a fair pricing.  We wanted to encourage competition in a way to condition the asset.  We think that's a new way in the commercial publishers.  So I think a lot of money, they are not quite as good as the ones that are in the market.  So we made the price of all this as a fairly simple.  We'll just take the labor cost, the social cost and all the resources and some really good journals.  And divided by 15.  And my goal to mine, price per journal is 7,200 euros.  Fairly simple, right.  But then we have journal number 16.  So we have to recapitulate that the same cost with the specific and more resources on journal number 16.  So when we divide the same cost with six in Germans.  And so we end up with a price set in neutral, such as 6,750 euros.  It was interesting to compare to the cost of the university in Germany, which was around 6,000 euros.  And the same price strategy.  The problem with this price model is that we will never reach zero because they are already charging the new journals their proportion of the cost.  We have to cover all the free journals in a way.  Each new journal on the page will their part for the cost.  So we really need to look at the new price moment for this.  Also a few of our journals are looking to charge you maybe sees and I will change the equation.  So one of the bureaucratic issues that they see is normally because we're in a large institution, we have to find a way to do how do you want to somehow do it.  We are moving towards sustainability.  We never reach it.  Definitely need to read the something there.  And we are also concerned with the fairness here.  We're working on working that's a job because we want to compete a little bit with the commercial publishers, but we don't want to outcompet them as well.  Because we both have to get fair markets in a way.  That's because the university of government is on the top row and it will be right to use government funds to outcompet a commercial publisher.  We can't use government funds to sustain a publishing service and does not cover its own costs.  But at the same time, we need to change the policy market.  I think the publishers, the Vietnamese profits and they do it for others.  So that's not quite the same.  So we are considering looking into new way of doing this, maybe a national joint publishing platform that could sustain its own costs.  We can do that.  We are considering a project that could be into that.  And in a way, we are already doing some collaborations on national level, like the strategy and the use and translation of OJST to bring an example for the international collaborating.  There's one thing that's written and this is a very slowly able, really publishing landscape.  I don't think we can reach an inclusion for quite a while yet.  I'm not sure we're going to end up in a dying world.  That's something to think about.  Thank you.
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I am here to talk to you about our work towards sustainability in our open access to general publishing. I used to work for the Osama Tumamista Library as a TV exclusive social services there. Now I am the head of the old town management at City of Eastside's institutional set. But I am a librarian. I have been working with open access for my entire career. Just a moment to be fair. But at least for the last 12 years I've been working with open access. Just to give you a quick partner. Thank you. Just to give you a quick view of where I'm from. We also went to the University of Norway and it has about 2200 employees and 20,000 students. We are the third largest university in Norway. Our starting vocation college is to be educated teachers, nurses, engineers, librarians and many more. The University of Norway has four libraries around the campus and there are around 80 employees. Not all of them have their own schools and stuff as well. We also have our own section for the media which is where our publishing services are based. And how did we end up as a local writers publisher? Well this was back in 2010. At this point in time we were already running an institutional post story that was kind of a way into two organizations publishing. We were familiar with the concept of open access but we didn't have an experience in publishing journals. But there were actually three journals already at Osumas that were using the open access software. They had been in it for a while. There were probably a lot of those journals that John Moody was talking about yesterday. I think we've been in it for years and years and years. It did happen as a proposal. And we also had the three journals that wanted to start up within how that worked. So they wanted something simple to start with. It didn't require a lot of technical testing to come down how. And some of the library came into the future. And we decided to run a publishing platform. We may still go to OS because the existing journals were already familiar for that system. And everyone we talked to in Norway they already used OGS as well. And our role was to make it easier for our departments to publish journals. And we wanted to offer the technical support that we did because that was what they were asking for at that point. And we also decided to provide the services for free if the editor isn't an employee of Osumas. We actually started out with a member of the editorial team. It is an employee of Osumas. Then we would get a platform for free. But then we started seeing suspicious numbers of journals that had one editorial member from Osumas. Which meant that they got the platform for free. So we had to actually change that group. I think someone was a journalist in there. So the whole workshop, but in 2011, I'm going to say it's published on. But then our goal was to be able to provide technical support which we changed. Something unexpected happened. So many of our team went to Liberia and said we're going to publish everything with access with regards to publishing a journal. It makes sense that Liberia and they had the perfect competencies for journal publishing. Our idea was just to run a platform for free to use of support and technical support. But we were now being asked about the new peer review. How do I get index? How should the PDF look for others to be able to site time? How can I ignore exactly the next nice number? How about the code in the region publishing system and so on and so on and so on. The editors discovered that we already knew we were able to find out the states which was the hard and hard questions. And soon we were deeply involved with a few of the rooms on classrooms such as ethics, copyrights, the truth into authors. We had quite a few difficult cases throughout the years. And I sounded like we had two authors that wanted to remove a third author from the paper and also had disagreements during the review process. And how do you have that as a very new editor when it's your first time experience as for the day? And we also have one of our journals to be now complained about as someone felt that they had been cited unfairly in article two. So these were the issues that we were facing in given that was about. So we can have to change the service level from the pure technical stuff to a bit more. So now we, a lot of the work that we will do is actually use the support for the other sources and giving them the advice and guidance on everything about our manager. And we will do stuff like provide those for them, we do training, we get the visual aids, we will attempt that it will be these if you are invited. We also try to get the career have an annual meeting for editors as well as they are able to sit in the same room and we can discuss issues that come up on like if an un-difficult case is his fault. I will do advice and help with the mixing and the suitability and we will help with financing options. We will remind them when there are grants that they can apply for, you advice and help them get stable financing. And we will also help them with delivery and assessment statistics and animals and other stuff when they are applying for grants. We also have been working kind of hard with changing the view of how they do digital publishing. We find they have a very mindset from the traditional way of publishing. They are still thinking that oh the PDF has a great, but we think that they are waiting to focus on the old way of reading the journal. We started a foundation and we really created the last page. Is PDF always the format that you should go to? There is some entire rule of formats out there that are much better in lots of ways than PDFs. So we have developed our own workflow for publishing which is Sentinel. We have been doing that for quite a few years. So each of our editors has a need to get something that is more accessible than the PDFs out there. We also talked to them about how they do the publishing. Until the time they voice their articles, they once every time, they are published six at once. So we will try to get them to publish in more email in two months or two years. That is something that is built with them. And it makes more sense. As you can see, more stable work, people just work through them as they get them. And then publish on us in this channel. And the author doesn't have to work with them either. And they are working with them. Do you really need to run continuous page number if you need to have issues? You can just set the address. And we try to encourage them to, for example, fill their abstracts. Instead of adding just written abstracts, you can have a video on front page of the journal as well. And then we will provide them with a platform, storage and a possibility to fill in authors. So try to inspire them to a bit more digital publishing set. And then something happening here. We had a good thing going. We were running our channel, so also met Jones. And then we started getting a lot of requests for prize quotes from Jones that were not for the need to be also met. And then we got quotes and got emails and got form letters. And then also asked us how much do we need to contribute to a platform. And then we had kind of green bin cover approach. Our focus had been on the comments from the University and the Jones at the moment. But now we're forced to look at the question, how should we handle all of this with this comment? Should we say no? How should we consider that? Would it be fair to have the platform for this? Well, we should use it. And so we decided that we will look to open for a question on this and Jones. And we were going to charge the service. But only have to cover our own costs with providing it. And we also decided that we should have a free training for libraries and other institutions if they were able to publish Jones as well. So we gave the option, we had the payout, and then you'll publish it for you. Or we can train the library and then download or just help you for free. So then we would come again with the tools to do it ourselves as well as providing it and it's not to publish. We do no marketing at all. We do request that we get it just by going out to still get a month. And you want to request a chance, not all of them have, but we'll be a couple and we'll see if we want to come to this month. And right now we're publishing to you, Jones, apart from other universities or university colleges in the world. And I just wanted to give you a quick view of the open access publishing that's in Norway. And I have a few commercial publishers like that in the last, they will publish my journals and also open access books. They're fairly new to the OE market. That's a cool publisher with traditional long traditional roots. The reason is such is because it's open access to fun. And they have nine journals in the sense that it's getting to be a substantial publisher. And then we have the old Scandinavian University Press. They have 26 journals. I think they are the largest publisher of open access journals in Norway. As you can see from the name, this is almost out as open-bound in Norwegian universities, 20 years ago I think, they became a commercial company as well. And then we have the Universal Publisher. And they actually get some to be the most popular of the open access publishers in Norway. And then we have the Universal Oslo International 19 journals. Also, the Metropolitan University has 16. The University of Kamsa has 12. I took out some student journals and research journals, research report journals. The University of Oregon has a lot of journals. And then there are a lot of small publishers as well. And I think that's why I like these numbers. I think this is a journal published by G.S. It's quite a large amount. What's next? The commercial publishers, they will either charge a journal and you give the fee for the publication, or they will add anything. Whereas the University publishers, when you use the word, you have to give free. And you can give a few of the journals that are the same. But as you can see, the The University of Kamsa is actually of course working with the publication landscape in Norway. Because we have the majority of the journals. We had to find a way to give a price for our services. And our goal was to give a fair pricing. We wanted to encourage competition in a way to condition the asset. We think that's a new way in the commercial publishers. So I think a lot of money, they are not quite as good as the ones that are in the market. So we made the price of all this as a fairly simple. We'll just take the labor cost, the social cost and all the resources and some really good journals. And divided by 15. And my goal to mine, price per journal is 7,200 euros. Fairly simple, right. But then we have journal number 16. So we have to recapitulate that the same cost with the specific and more resources on journal number 16. So when we divide the same cost with six in Germans. And so we end up with a price set in neutral, such as 6,750 euros. It was interesting to compare to the cost of the university in Germany, which was around 6,000 euros. And the same price strategy. The problem with this price model is that we will never reach zero because they are already charging the new journals their proportion of the cost. We have to cover all the free journals in a way. Each new journal on the page will their part for the cost. So we really need to look at the new price moment for this. Also a few of our journals are looking to charge you maybe sees and I will change the equation. So one of the bureaucratic issues that they see is normally because we're in a large institution, we have to find a way to do how do you want to somehow do it. We are moving towards sustainability. We never reach it. Definitely need to read the something there. And we are also concerned with the fairness here. We're working on working that's a job because we want to compete a little bit with the commercial publishers, but we don't want to outcompet them as well. Because we both have to get fair markets in a way. That's because the university of government is on the top row and it will be right to use government funds to outcompet a commercial publisher. We can't use government funds to sustain a publishing service and does not cover its own costs. But at the same time, we need to change the policy market. I think the publishers, the Vietnamese profits and they do it for others. So that's not quite the same. So we are considering looking into new way of doing this, maybe a national joint publishing platform that could sustain its own costs. We can do that. We are considering a project that could be into that. And in a way, we are already doing some collaborations on national level, like the strategy and the use and translation of OJST to bring an example for the international collaborating. There's one thing that's written and this is a very slowly able, really publishing landscape. I don't think we can reach an inclusion for quite a while yet. I'm not sure we're going to end up in a dying world. That's something to think about. Thank you.
didn't have an experience in publishing journals. came into the future. And we decided to run a departments to publish journals. And we wanted to we would get a platform for free. But then we provide technical support which we changed. and giving them the advice and guidance on help them get stable financing. And we will also focus on the old way of reading the journal. We the comments from the University and the Jones at and other institutions if they were able to of open access journals in Norway. As you can see research report journals. The University of the fee for the publication, or they will add cost. We have to cover all the free journals in a government funds to sustain a publishing service