FreedomBox, liberty inside the cloud.
Lubbes, Ruben
FreedomBox is a consumer device that aims to facilitate free communicationamong people, safely and securely, in a world where our fundamental rights areunder grave threat. FreedomBox will put in people's own hands and under theirown control encrypted voice and text communication, anonymous publishing,social networking, media sharing, and (micro)blogging. It is built on top ofDebian and is currently available for several single board computers. This talk is aimed at introducing FreedomBox, its goals, current status andfuture plans. It is also a call for help. Decentralization of the Internet Basic human communication is getting more and more online. Many of us probablyalready communicate more on the Internet than offline. The communication mediaare often controlled by few corporate entities who hold immense power. Thispower that they continue to accumulate is often abused to the determent oftheir users. Instead of building and relying such centralized entities, weneed to build an Internet that is more decentralized and controlled by thepeople using it. FreedomBox Most people often believe that there is no alternative to using centralizedservices like Gmail and Facebook. A global network of volunteers are buildingsoftware that will put back control of communications back into people'shands. In many areas, such software exists but is not easy to use. FreedomBoxproject aims to build a consumer device that brings these decentralizedtechnologies together for easy usage and maintenance by typical users. Ruben Lubbes has been working with and participating in the project for years,mainly working on translations, product development and persona's.
 Hi people, my name is Ruben Loebis, I'm one of the people who is working on Freedom Box and yeah, nobody was coming here for this year so I thought let me do it. I'm again not a coder, I'm not even a slideshow maker so you can see that maybe later on because I've got really good slides like this one. Yeah, this is the main slide to me. So the idea for me with Freedom Box was I came here to foster them 2011 and there was Eben Moglen with this speech, why political liberty depends on software freedom more than ever. It's in 2011 and the strange thing is I watched it yesterday again to prepare and I was like oh man, this could have been just today. And the things that he talks about are really very interesting so if you ever have some time left try to watch that video again. Back to the main slide. Freedom Box has came into existence because people have no real option for security and taking things into their own hands except for people like the projects that are presented here. And I've seen a lot of people saying like but there is no way to do this. Well, there are a number of ways that are halfway finished or just begun. But we've been working on this for a long time and our idea is to have a small box that you can buy cheaply just like a raspberry but then most likely even more free. So there is the Olimax from the people downstairs and the Beaglebone from Jason Kertner and it's a Beaglebone foundation. They have really open source hardware not only the software and we are a Debian Pure distribution. The idea about that is you want to keep everything Debian so when a release comes up everything that can be included has to be part of Debian as well. Well, so this time the freeze is just about to start. So as a principle I can tell you no thank you we cannot use your work. No help needed. There is just one bug that has to be done for the release of the new stretch and for that we're done. We've added translations, we have a pretty okay set of tools but from there on after stretch there will be buster and from there on we can have a lot of fun making new tools and build out the foundation that we have built. So on that we do need help. So we now have the we will be in Debian stretch. This will be the first time that as a Debian Pure distribution we will be included and the other parts that are needed to use it as a tool for yourself are available now. We have the things to do with it and the small machines are really cheap at the moment. So the next steps will be adding new tools most likely from Debian and we now have a blog, we have the voice telephone, video telephone, XMPP. Well most of the things that you would expect from a project like this and it is all runnable from these small boxes but there is a lot of tools that are already in Debian that are not used by the project yet and there is a lot of things that can be included outside of Debian that are not even considered by most of the projects here yet. For instance I personally would like to see something like KALight which is the offline version of Khan Academy which normally gives you a lot of education but informs a lot about your learning process to big data which is none of my interest and I don't think they should be looking at my learning curve as well. So this has not been used by any of the the hostages yourself projects as far as I know but I personally think it would be very interesting to add that to the normal curriculum because it's not just being able to use the code that's made by everybody but it's also improving yourself and improving your knowledge about the world so you can participate in a broader way and also what people keep telling me is it needs things like theming. By now we're just using a Debian website to control this and a Django website with bootstrap and no theming so you know what it looks like that's why I put the demo up here and no and yeah so there is a lot of things to improve but we have a foundation. At this point we could use a lot of help and translation although we have a lot of things but a lot of ways to improve how people use it and how they could show it to other people and of course we try to be a the software for an appliance for ordinary users. It's not at that level yet we sometimes still need to use the terminal sometimes still need to find arcane solutions to things that should be known and done already but we are getting there and at this moment we are getting three new participants that are working full-time on this. There is an Indian non-profit that's called ThoughtWorks and they're sponsoring the the main developer at the moment Sunil Adepa and two of his colleagues to get this on the way and so if somebody helps out there is a lot of people also helping out and this will make your contribution be more in use in an easy way back to the main slide. At this point I would like to say there is a lot of people saying things like there is no way what do I have to hide well the point of that is you don't need to have something to hide you have things to protect and people telling you you have things to you you don't have things to hide that doesn't really matter but the the issue is who do you want to hide some things from I've got a friend who told me this last week and I asked him what exactly do you not want to hide from Kim Jong-il or Trump or whoever they should just not be in your life anyway so that's a different way of looking at it in Holland we had a survey about what do you do and an elevator it was in the 70s and one of the the main conclusions was scratch my ass and yeah that's something that you can do when you're in private in an elevator and nobody's watching at you so by now we did the the whole study again and the whole answer did not ever come up again because everybody knows that thing in there is looking if I'm scratching my ass now so yeah at that point you know that you have you have to change your your ways and a lot of people when they are shown it in a way like this they notice that they have changed what they're doing and why they're doing the things that they do so I think the need for these kind of projects is getting bigger and bigger so I would like to invite everybody to come to the summer festival Shah it's a hacker camp just like the Congress of CCC but then in summer and as a camping it's five days and there is a lot of people doing projects there and villages and on the main stage there is still a possibility to to reach in to the call of participation so and that way there is still a lot of things that we could do during this summer to get this project but also a lot of other projects like the cozy the you know host and these kinds of projects getting them more online and yeah I would like to invite everybody to come over there and maybe we can add some talks or maybe even a village concentrated on that and yeah that is mainly the idea about what the freedom box could do and so I would like to reserve a bit of extra time for questions so maybe if there are a lot of questions yes thank you myself so like a way to have like a pluggable application so I can create an application for plink that essentially uses some binary that somehow happens to be on the system it's quite easy to add people if we the question was if you want to use software that's not packaged yet for debian how do you do it well the plan is a plan is the tool that we use to have a web interface and and it is quite modular so if you want to you can easily add modules to it to to use the the product the products that you need but they will not be included in the next stable release of the of the software but if you want to use that there is a you can make it as an add-on and you can also make a derived distribution that a lot of people already are making so you start off with a freedom box which is pure debian and from there on you can add your own parts and so we will be in stable soon but the newest part of the development will be going into testing so at some point people will be us go into testing now for the the newer features and they may or may not be included into the next debian like we had charlie which is a small application to keep your bookmarks and it's a really nice application but in the end it got dropped from debian and we had to drop it from the desk from freedom box as well yeah okay that's short yeah i get you as an advocate for privacy issues yes very much but i think you're making a test with us as well because as far as i remember you made photos at the beginning of yes that's for me i would like to have the freedom of saying i disagree with that and i don't don't want to be on your smartphone okay that's good it's not going to be anywhere on any accounts so if you if anybody likes i'll delete the whole picture that was just something that i saw somebody do and i thought oh that's nice so if sorry yeah okay i don't mind so that is making a making the point in the in the first place so if you have privacy issues you should be able to say something and if you are talking to people instead of to a big company like google it's very difficult to do that and with a person you can just come up and say hey you personally i think you're doing something wrong so i'm really even proud that you guys are saying this and yeah okay yes sorry i don't understand backports uh we're look uh do we use uh backports and debian um we are uh this is the first time that we are being uh included in the debian stable so we are looking into using that so if there are debian devs who are help uh willing to help us out getting into that uh that would be very advantageous to us but we don't have that set up yet also because the the backports the mental now i think told us uh please come to us when the time's there but uh we are planning to do so uh to keep people uh unstable able to move with the the backports to have some extra features already but uh yeah that is an issue with debian and uh the aging of the software during the the years till the next uh buster release that's going to be the next uh tool hi you have an idea how many people downloaded or are actually using the freedom box um i have no direct contact with the logs so uh i personally oh yeah how many people have been using uh downloaded and are using the freedom box at the moment um i personally i have no info about how much exactly but i see a lot of people a number of people in my community that are um testing it and i uh there is some information on the on the wiki which is uh on the oh yeah freedom box dot org um um so uh there is some usage information but i think at the moment it's a few hundred people at the most uh anyone yeah yes fully running uh what's the progress on that um what about the email server was a question the email server uh is still not in we have round cube now uh to read email but email servers are very much a moving target uh so uh what is good to use today is not good to use tomorrow so it's really difficult to keep that up straight and anyway is there a way to secure um email anyway at all i think by now we should uh say that email is just on its last legs and we have to move on to a next system that is just not uh so well suited for more and more um reading of you instead of you reading the internet so there is always metadata leading leaking and uh changing that would change would need email to change its general nature so in my opinion i hope there never will be yeah uh some things just have to die at some point uh but uh there are a lot of other protocols and options that are uh that are possible to take over its role and um yeah uh some things from long ago are still current like uh i really like the the quassel core use and freedom box that's one of my main uses to use irc which is also already from the 60s and um that has aged a bit better but a lot of of the old protocols are just not capable of improving to current specs anyone okay this is going to be a short talk thank you then okay
 Hi people, my name is Ruben Loebis, I'm one of the people who is working on Freedom Box  and yeah, nobody was coming here for this year so I thought let me do it.  I'm again not a coder, I'm not even a slideshow maker so you can see that maybe later on because  I've got really good slides like this one. Yeah, this is the main slide to me.  So the idea for me with Freedom Box was I came here to foster them 2011 and there was  Eben Moglen with this speech, why political liberty depends on software freedom more than ever.  It's in 2011 and the strange thing is I watched it yesterday again to prepare and I was like  oh man, this could have been just today. And the things that he talks about are really very interesting  so if you ever have some time left try to watch that video again.  Back to the main slide. Freedom Box has came into existence because people have no real option  for security and taking things into their own hands except for people like the projects that are presented here.  And I've seen a lot of people saying like but there is no way to do this.  Well, there are a number of ways that are halfway finished or just begun.  But we've been working on this for a long time and our idea is to have a small box that you can buy cheaply  just like a raspberry but then most likely even more free.  So there is the Olimax from the people downstairs and the Beaglebone from Jason Kertner  and it's a Beaglebone foundation. They have really open source hardware not only the software  and we are a Debian Pure distribution. The idea about that is you want to keep everything Debian  so when a release comes up everything that can be included has to be part of Debian as well.  Well, so this time the freeze is just about to start. So as a principle I can tell you  no thank you we cannot use your work. No help needed. There is just one bug that has to be done for  the release of the new stretch and for that we're done. We've added translations, we have a pretty  okay set of tools but from there on after stretch there will be buster and from there on we can  have a lot of fun making new tools and build out the foundation that we have built. So on that we do  need help. So we now have the we will be in Debian stretch. This will be the first time that as a  Debian Pure distribution we will be included and the other parts that are needed to use it as a  tool for yourself are available now. We have the things to do with it and the small machines are  really cheap at the moment. So the next steps will be adding new tools most likely from Debian  and we now have a blog, we have the voice telephone, video telephone, XMPP. Well most of the things  that you would expect from a project like this and it is all runnable from these small boxes but  there is a lot of tools that are already in Debian that are not used by the project yet and there  is a lot of things that can be included outside of Debian that are not even considered by most of  the projects here yet. For instance I personally would like to see something like KALight which is  the offline version of Khan Academy which normally gives you a lot of education but informs a lot  about your learning process to big data which is none of my interest and I don't think they should  be looking at my learning curve as well. So this has not been used by any of the the hostages  yourself projects as far as I know but I personally think it would be very interesting to add that to  the normal curriculum because it's not just being able to use the code that's made by everybody but  it's also improving yourself and improving your knowledge about the world so you can participate  in a broader way and also what people keep telling me is it needs things like theming. By now we're  just using a Debian website to control this and a Django website with bootstrap and no theming so  you know what it looks like that's why I put the demo up here and no and yeah so  there is a lot of things to improve but we have a foundation. At this point we could use a lot of  help and translation although we have a lot of things but a lot of ways to improve how people  use it and how they could show it to other people and of course we try to be a the software for an  appliance for ordinary users. It's not at that level yet we sometimes still need to use the  terminal sometimes still need to find arcane solutions to things that should be known and  done already but we are getting there and at this moment we are getting three new participants that  are working full-time on this. There is an Indian non-profit that's called ThoughtWorks and they're  sponsoring the the main developer at the moment Sunil Adepa and two of his colleagues to get this  on the way and so if somebody helps out there is a lot of people also helping out and this will make  your contribution be more in use in an easy way back to the main slide. At this point I would like  to say there is a lot of people saying things like there is no way what do I have to hide well the  point of that is you don't need to have something to hide you have things to protect and people  telling you you have things to you you don't have things to hide that doesn't really matter but  the the issue is who do you want to hide some things from I've got a friend who told me this  last week and I asked him what exactly do you not want to hide from Kim Jong-il or  Trump or whoever they should just not be in your life anyway so that's a different way of looking  at it in Holland we had a survey about what do you do and an elevator it was in the 70s and one of  the the main conclusions was scratch my ass and yeah that's something that you can do when you're  in private in an elevator and nobody's watching at you so by now we did the the whole study again  and the whole answer did not ever come up again because everybody knows that thing in there is  looking if I'm scratching my ass now so yeah at that point you know that you have you have to change  your your ways and a lot of people when they are shown it in a way like this they notice that they  have changed what they're doing and why they're doing the things that they do so I think the need  for these kind of projects is getting bigger and bigger so I would like to invite everybody to come  to the summer festival Shah it's a hacker camp just like the Congress of CCC but then in summer  and as a camping it's five days and there is a lot of people doing projects there and villages and  on the main stage there is still a possibility to to reach in to the call of participation so  and that way there is still a lot of things that we could do during this summer to get this project  but also a lot of other projects like the cozy the you know host and these kinds of projects getting  them more online and yeah I would like to invite everybody to come over there and maybe we can  add some talks or maybe even a village concentrated on that and yeah that is mainly the idea about  what the freedom box could do and so I would like to reserve a bit of extra time for questions  so maybe if there are a lot of questions yes  thank you  myself  so  like a way to have like a pluggable application so I can create an application for plink that  essentially uses some binary that somehow happens to be on the system it's quite easy to add people  if we the question was if you want to use software that's not packaged yet for debian  how do you do it well the plan is a plan is the tool that we use to have a web interface and  and it is quite modular so if you want to you can easily add modules to it to  to use the the product the products that you need but they will not be included in the next  stable release of the of the software but if you want to use that there is a you can make it as an add-on  and you can also make a derived distribution that a lot of people already are making so you start  off with a freedom box which is pure debian and from there on you can add your own parts and  so we will be in stable soon but the newest part of the development will be going into testing so  at some point people will be us go into testing now for the the newer features and they may or may  not be included into the next debian like we had charlie which is a small application to keep your  bookmarks and it's a really nice application but in the end it got dropped from debian and we had  to drop it from the desk from freedom box as well yeah okay that's short yeah  i get you as an advocate for privacy issues yes very much but i think you're making a test with us  as well because as far as i remember you made photos at the beginning of yes that's for me i would like  to have the freedom of saying i disagree with that and i don't don't want to be on your smartphone  okay that's good it's not going to be anywhere on any accounts so if you if anybody likes i'll  delete the whole picture that was just something that i saw somebody do and i thought oh that's  nice so if sorry yeah okay i don't mind so that is making a making the point in the in the first  place so if you have privacy issues you should be able to say something and if you are talking to  people instead of to a big company like google it's very difficult to do that and with a person you  can just come up and say hey you personally i think you're doing something wrong so i'm really even  proud that you guys are saying this and yeah okay yes sorry i don't understand  backports uh we're look uh do we use uh backports and debian um we are uh this is the first time  that we are being uh included in the debian stable so we are looking into using that so if there are  debian devs who are help uh willing to help us out getting into that uh that would be very  advantageous to us but we don't have that set up yet also because the the backports the mental now  i think told us uh please come to us when the time's there but uh we are planning to do so uh to keep  people uh unstable able to move with the the backports to have some extra features already but uh  yeah that is an issue with debian and uh the aging of the software during the the years till the next  uh buster release that's going to be the next uh tool  hi you have an idea how many people downloaded or are actually using the freedom box um i have no  direct contact with the logs so uh i personally oh yeah how many people have been using uh downloaded  and are using the freedom box at the moment um i personally i have no info about how much exactly  but i see a lot of people a number of people in my community that are um testing it and i uh there  is some information on the on the wiki which is uh on the oh yeah freedom box dot org um  um so uh there is some usage information but i think at the moment it's a few hundred people at the most  uh anyone  yeah  yes  fully running uh what's the progress on that um what about the email server was a question  the email server uh is still not in we have round cube now uh to read email but email servers are  very much a moving target uh so uh what is good to use today is not good to use tomorrow so it's  really difficult to keep that up straight and anyway is there a way to secure um email anyway  at all i think by now we should uh say that email is just on its last legs and we have to move on  to a next system that is just not uh so well suited for more and more um reading of you instead of you  reading the internet so there is always metadata leading leaking and uh changing that would change  would need email to change its general nature so in my opinion i hope there never will be  yeah uh some things just have to die at some point  uh but uh there are a lot of other protocols and options that are uh that are possible to take  over its role and um yeah uh some things from long ago are still current like uh i really like the  the quassel core use and freedom box that's one of my main uses to use irc which is also already  from the 60s and um that has aged a bit better but a lot of of the old protocols are just not  capable of improving to current specs anyone okay this is going to be a short talk thank you  then okay
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Hi people, my name is Ruben Loebis, I'm one of the people who is working on Freedom Box and yeah, nobody was coming here for this year so I thought let me do it. I'm again not a coder, I'm not even a slideshow maker so you can see that maybe later on because I've got really good slides like this one. Yeah, this is the main slide to me. So the idea for me with Freedom Box was I came here to foster them 2011 and there was Eben Moglen with this speech, why political liberty depends on software freedom more than ever. It's in 2011 and the strange thing is I watched it yesterday again to prepare and I was like oh man, this could have been just today. And the things that he talks about are really very interesting so if you ever have some time left try to watch that video again. Back to the main slide. Freedom Box has came into existence because people have no real option for security and taking things into their own hands except for people like the projects that are presented here. And I've seen a lot of people saying like but there is no way to do this. Well, there are a number of ways that are halfway finished or just begun. But we've been working on this for a long time and our idea is to have a small box that you can buy cheaply just like a raspberry but then most likely even more free. So there is the Olimax from the people downstairs and the Beaglebone from Jason Kertner and it's a Beaglebone foundation. They have really open source hardware not only the software and we are a Debian Pure distribution. The idea about that is you want to keep everything Debian so when a release comes up everything that can be included has to be part of Debian as well. Well, so this time the freeze is just about to start. So as a principle I can tell you no thank you we cannot use your work. No help needed. There is just one bug that has to be done for the release of the new stretch and for that we're done. We've added translations, we have a pretty okay set of tools but from there on after stretch there will be buster and from there on we can have a lot of fun making new tools and build out the foundation that we have built. So on that we do need help. So we now have the we will be in Debian stretch. This will be the first time that as a Debian Pure distribution we will be included and the other parts that are needed to use it as a tool for yourself are available now. We have the things to do with it and the small machines are really cheap at the moment. So the next steps will be adding new tools most likely from Debian and we now have a blog, we have the voice telephone, video telephone, XMPP. Well most of the things that you would expect from a project like this and it is all runnable from these small boxes but there is a lot of tools that are already in Debian that are not used by the project yet and there is a lot of things that can be included outside of Debian that are not even considered by most of the projects here yet. For instance I personally would like to see something like KALight which is the offline version of Khan Academy which normally gives you a lot of education but informs a lot about your learning process to big data which is none of my interest and I don't think they should be looking at my learning curve as well. So this has not been used by any of the the hostages yourself projects as far as I know but I personally think it would be very interesting to add that to the normal curriculum because it's not just being able to use the code that's made by everybody but it's also improving yourself and improving your knowledge about the world so you can participate in a broader way and also what people keep telling me is it needs things like theming. By now we're just using a Debian website to control this and a Django website with bootstrap and no theming so you know what it looks like that's why I put the demo up here and no and yeah so there is a lot of things to improve but we have a foundation. At this point we could use a lot of help and translation although we have a lot of things but a lot of ways to improve how people use it and how they could show it to other people and of course we try to be a the software for an appliance for ordinary users. It's not at that level yet we sometimes still need to use the terminal sometimes still need to find arcane solutions to things that should be known and done already but we are getting there and at this moment we are getting three new participants that are working full-time on this. There is an Indian non-profit that's called ThoughtWorks and they're sponsoring the the main developer at the moment Sunil Adepa and two of his colleagues to get this on the way and so if somebody helps out there is a lot of people also helping out and this will make your contribution be more in use in an easy way back to the main slide. At this point I would like to say there is a lot of people saying things like there is no way what do I have to hide well the point of that is you don't need to have something to hide you have things to protect and people telling you you have things to you you don't have things to hide that doesn't really matter but the the issue is who do you want to hide some things from I've got a friend who told me this last week and I asked him what exactly do you not want to hide from Kim Jong-il or Trump or whoever they should just not be in your life anyway so that's a different way of looking at it in Holland we had a survey about what do you do and an elevator it was in the 70s and one of the the main conclusions was scratch my ass and yeah that's something that you can do when you're in private in an elevator and nobody's watching at you so by now we did the the whole study again and the whole answer did not ever come up again because everybody knows that thing in there is looking if I'm scratching my ass now so yeah at that point you know that you have you have to change your your ways and a lot of people when they are shown it in a way like this they notice that they have changed what they're doing and why they're doing the things that they do so I think the need for these kind of projects is getting bigger and bigger so I would like to invite everybody to come to the summer festival Shah it's a hacker camp just like the Congress of CCC but then in summer and as a camping it's five days and there is a lot of people doing projects there and villages and on the main stage there is still a possibility to to reach in to the call of participation so and that way there is still a lot of things that we could do during this summer to get this project but also a lot of other projects like the cozy the you know host and these kinds of projects getting them more online and yeah I would like to invite everybody to come over there and maybe we can add some talks or maybe even a village concentrated on that and yeah that is mainly the idea about what the freedom box could do and so I would like to reserve a bit of extra time for questions so maybe if there are a lot of questions yes thank you myself so like a way to have like a pluggable application so I can create an application for plink that essentially uses some binary that somehow happens to be on the system it's quite easy to add people if we the question was if you want to use software that's not packaged yet for debian how do you do it well the plan is a plan is the tool that we use to have a web interface and and it is quite modular so if you want to you can easily add modules to it to to use the the product the products that you need but they will not be included in the next stable release of the of the software but if you want to use that there is a you can make it as an add-on and you can also make a derived distribution that a lot of people already are making so you start off with a freedom box which is pure debian and from there on you can add your own parts and so we will be in stable soon but the newest part of the development will be going into testing so at some point people will be us go into testing now for the the newer features and they may or may not be included into the next debian like we had charlie which is a small application to keep your bookmarks and it's a really nice application but in the end it got dropped from debian and we had to drop it from the desk from freedom box as well yeah okay that's short yeah i get you as an advocate for privacy issues yes very much but i think you're making a test with us as well because as far as i remember you made photos at the beginning of yes that's for me i would like to have the freedom of saying i disagree with that and i don't don't want to be on your smartphone okay that's good it's not going to be anywhere on any accounts so if you if anybody likes i'll delete the whole picture that was just something that i saw somebody do and i thought oh that's nice so if sorry yeah okay i don't mind so that is making a making the point in the in the first place so if you have privacy issues you should be able to say something and if you are talking to people instead of to a big company like google it's very difficult to do that and with a person you can just come up and say hey you personally i think you're doing something wrong so i'm really even proud that you guys are saying this and yeah okay yes sorry i don't understand backports uh we're look uh do we use uh backports and debian um we are uh this is the first time that we are being uh included in the debian stable so we are looking into using that so if there are debian devs who are help uh willing to help us out getting into that uh that would be very advantageous to us but we don't have that set up yet also because the the backports the mental now i think told us uh please come to us when the time's there but uh we are planning to do so uh to keep people uh unstable able to move with the the backports to have some extra features already but uh yeah that is an issue with debian and uh the aging of the software during the the years till the next uh buster release that's going to be the next uh tool hi you have an idea how many people downloaded or are actually using the freedom box um i have no direct contact with the logs so uh i personally oh yeah how many people have been using uh downloaded and are using the freedom box at the moment um i personally i have no info about how much exactly but i see a lot of people a number of people in my community that are um testing it and i uh there is some information on the on the wiki which is uh on the oh yeah freedom box dot org um um so uh there is some usage information but i think at the moment it's a few hundred people at the most uh anyone yeah yes fully running uh what's the progress on that um what about the email server was a question the email server uh is still not in we have round cube now uh to read email but email servers are very much a moving target uh so uh what is good to use today is not good to use tomorrow so it's really difficult to keep that up straight and anyway is there a way to secure um email anyway at all i think by now we should uh say that email is just on its last legs and we have to move on to a next system that is just not uh so well suited for more and more um reading of you instead of you reading the internet so there is always metadata leading leaking and uh changing that would change would need email to change its general nature so in my opinion i hope there never will be yeah uh some things just have to die at some point uh but uh there are a lot of other protocols and options that are uh that are possible to take over its role and um yeah uh some things from long ago are still current like uh i really like the the quassel core use and freedom box that's one of my main uses to use irc which is also already from the 60s and um that has aged a bit better but a lot of of the old protocols are just not capable of improving to current specs anyone okay this is going to be a short talk thank you then okay
the people who is working on Freedom Box and liberty depends on software freedom more than and taking things into their own hands except for there is no way to do this. Well, there are a begun. But we've been working on this for a long time and our idea is to have a small box that you most likely even more free. So there is the a Debian Pure distribution. The idea about that that we have built. So on that we do need help. This will be the first time that as a Debian Pure yourself are available now. We have the things to now have a blog, we have the voice telephone, Debian that are not used by the project yet and learning curve as well. So this has not been used knowledge about the world so you can participate now we're just using a Debian website to control is a lot of things to improve but we have a appliance for ordinary users. It's not at that they are shown it in a way like this they notice the need for these kind of projects is getting still a possibility to to reach in to the call of to get this project but also a lot of other these kinds of projects getting them more online easy to add people if we the question was if you product the products that you need but they will of the software but if you want to use that there development will be going into testing so at some think you're making a test with us as well that is making a making the point in the in the tool hi you have an idea how many people usage information but i think at the moment it's suited for more and more um reading of you some things from long ago are still current like