conversation: User (PieceOfDatFancyFeast): "http://www.forbes.com/sites/cameronkeng/2014/06/22/employees-that-stay-in-companies-longer-than-2-years-get-paid-50-less/#454e629ee07f\n\nCompanies need to get back to rewarding employees for their tenure. Until they do, don't reward companies with your loyalty. When you're worth more on the open market than your company will give you, they are doing you a disservice and you should make the best decision for your own future and go make what you're worth. The more people who do this, the more likely companies will be to change and allow us to stick around and be compensated for it.\n\nMillenials often started their careers in the recession, and have an inset fear of the job market because of it. They often walk around moping as if the economy is stuck in 2009, and it's not. The market is good right now, go test it."
  Self: "I would agree this is true. Got my first job right out of college, stayed for 2 years. Got my next job and got a 24% raise. I'm up for a promotion in the next 6 months and luckily my company is small and my peer was fired (and they aren't going to rehire anyone to fill in), so I know his salary was freed up.\n\nI'm pushing for another 30%, or 15% and an extra week of vacation."
  gdbhgvhh (gdbhgvhh): "Consider the value of that vacation. If you're making $100k, an extra week of vacation is equivalent to about $2k to $2.5k. Negotiating down 15% for that week shouldn't happen if you're seriously considering 30%. Even at $50k, an extra week vacation is $1k, but dropping from 30% to 15% is a $7.5k loss."
  Self: "Don't disagree, but I probably won't get the vacation at all. Our policy is pretty small and we're all stuck at 2 weeks until year 5. And March will be year 2 for me."
  