We can engage on our own (via our own funds) and also together with other investors. Joint engagements are for example done via our active membership of the IIGCC (Institutional Investor Group on Climate Change) and the Principles for Responsible Investment. Kempen is also part of an international engagement initiative called Climate Action 100+ that was launched in December 2017 and targets over 150 carbon intensive companies. For more engagement examples see kempen.com/en/asset-management/ responsible-investment.