Forum Monk wrote: I am not a linguist or expert on how languages evolve but many people have tried to link the names of kings and peoples to the Noachic tradition by playing word games with names. I have no idea how valid any of is, but names with variations of Noah, Noa, Noach, Nuk, or Cush, Cuch, Kush, Kish or Ham, Hem, Am, Em:
Take these roots and tack on innumerable prefixs and suffixes and voila - roll your own link to the flood tradition. But, having looked at some of them...the evidence seems compelling in some cases.
i'm definitely not a linguist either. i'm an accountant for a reason However, it has to be that some are related. i've read about some very interesting research by linguists 'searching' for Proto-Indo-European or Proto-Nostratic and other such 'mother tongues' It's shocking how many languages today have very similar sounding words for the same concepts.
Yes ... actually, floods. The first whopper followed the LGM meltdown at about 14,400bc. The second was post Younger Dryas, 9600bc.
1. Could you explain how the second (9600BC) flood fits geographically into the Neolithic habitations at Catal Hoyuk, Gobekli Tepe and other similar Near East sites? I think some of Gobekli Tepe dates to around 9,000 BC. So would they have been paddling? And how long would it take to dry it all out, bearing in mind that they didn't have hairdriers?
2. You seem pretty certain that the American flood stories were imported from Mongolia/Siberia. Yet FM mentioned that there had been some American floods too. So I was wondering how and why you are so certain.
Then click on Satem in the left hand nav (or here: http://www.danshort.com/ie/iesatem.htm) to see all Indo European languages that are related to Eastern Europe and South Asia.
The links didn't work for me. i'll try IE when i get home. i've seen several language trees, but i'm always interested in others since it is a very subjective science. Hopefully i can access your link later.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Alright, I was able to get in....after I edited your original link to the second one which had an extra ) which fouled it up. I've corrected your original post.
I grabbed the picture and hosted it on photobucket because no sooner had I done that than the site reported "not available" again. I suspect they are having bandwidth problems. Anyway, here's the second image.
Yup, i have one very similar if not the same inside the cover of a dictionary. That dictionary, which i've had since high school, combined with J.R.R. Tolkien inspired my interest in languages.
The specific research i mentioned earlier was outlined in 'Lost Civilizations of the Stone Age' i know i've referred to that book here before, but it is one of my favorites. In the 'The Mother Tongue' chapter there is a short list of 'Proto-Indo-European' words with the equivalents from a dozen or so modern languages from around the world.
I think, once we understand just how many languages have an IE base, and how they all fit together, that the connection between the Siberians, the Indians and Orcadians begins to look not so unlikely.
I guess we'll have to ask the Out of Africa crowd what they spoke on the way from Africa to Northern India.
But I think just after the last ice age, which is what the Vedic stories are referring to, is about 20,000 years at least after HSS is supposed to have come out of Africa.
There's another gene study, I forget where I read it now, that follows HSS coming out of Africa somewhere around Ethiopia and crossing over into southern India. Some them stayed (thought to be today's Dravidians, Australoids etc, whose physiogony and language has some similarities with that of the Sumerians) and the rest carried on to Indonesia and all points east.
Here's a dumb blonde question - if we all came out of Africa, why is our skin not black? Skin pigmentation is due to genetics, so we wouldn't have gradually evolved fairer skins due to lack of sun rays on it ...well, not in such a short time anyway, imo.
That is not a dumb question by any means and is one of the main arguments that I can see for rejecting OOA. Something caused the different pigmentation but I doubt very much that it was the weather.
Black slaves who fled to Canada via the Underground Railroad remain black. Whites who moved to South Africa remain white. The only time we get any change is when there is a genetic mixture.
For that matter the Ancient Egyptians were white and the Ancient Nubians were black. I am not convinced that it was all that much warmer on the Nubian side of the border to account for the difference.
A change of colour is well within reason but one of the problems with the OOA scenario is that it is very difficult to explain how the colour cange spread through the population in the time allowed for by the later OOA scenario.
I can’t remember the last time I had such a negative physical reaction to a film. I’m going to have to start critiquing the film right away in what is usually an introductory paragraph because I have so many bad things to say about this movie. First off, let me make a disclaimer and say that I don’t usually like biopics. I especially don’t like biopics about musicians. Ray, Walk the Line; fine films, good acting, educational I guess, but just not something I’m overly interested in. So, going into Get on Up, I knew that it most likely wouldn’t be replacing any movie in my Top 20 any time soon. I was prepared for a story on James Brown’s idiosyncratic life, his flamboyant personality, his rise to fame against all odds, his unique style of music. But what I was not prepared for was the complete lack of professionalism in almost every aspect of the filmmaking process. It’s one thing to make a movie that won’t match some people’s exact tastes; it’s another to make what amounts to a training-video-caliber production that is one of the worst mainstream movies I have seen in quite some time.
James Brown, the Godfather of Soul, known as Little Junior in his youth. His early days weren’t easy, as he was an unwanted child, abandoned by his mother & then his father, left to live at a brothel and work to get lonely men in the door. Always musically inclined, Brown began singing & dancing in earnest, and while in prison for stealing a suit of clothes, met Bobby Byrd, the leader of a gospel band that James knew could be so much more. Taken in by Byrd and his family, Brown soon became the lead singer and the mastermind of the group, forcing it into the directional he wanted his own music to take and demanding that the public take notice. Slowly, James Brown as we know him was born, but not without casting aside friends along the way, making many mistakes, and becoming as infamous as he was well-known. A superstar had entered the business, changing the world of music with every beat, an original spirit whose equal would never be seen again.
The figure, the man, the antics; that’s interesting stuff. James Brown was such a wild force that couldn’t be contained, a game-changer in every way, someone who has influenced every album made in America since arriving on the scene. That impact is good reason to make a biography, and his story is told in full here. Chadwick Boseman plays him well, doing much of the singing & dancing himself, an impressive feat. But, and oh my god it’s a ‘but’, the movie is terrible, just the worst. The cinematography is like something from a 90s TV special, with camerawork that hurt my eyes & my taste level. The editing was horrendous, with choppy scenes and worthless dialogue that made the film entirely too long & unsupported. The side actors were atrocious, delivering lines with the talent of a 7-year-old. The musical scenes were too much in focus, making the film more of a concert documentary than a movie. It was like someone decided to put on a skit about James Brown for their college fraternity because they knew this guy who could do a mad split. Tate Taylor, director of The Help, was in way over his head, lost control, and ended up releasing a film that seemed straight from the cutting room floor; unpolished, unedited, shot while the actual cameras were out for repair and the actual actors were out to lunch. Get on Up is a disaster from start to finish, a film that had be cringing every few seconds. If not for the fascinating figure at the center of the story and the impressive performance by the man who played him, this might be Bottom 20 material.
Oh no, Netflix, what have you done. You made Josh Brolin look like a fool, you kept Danny McBride in the spotlight, and you cast some random kid with an accent because that’s supposed to be funny. That’s a whole lot of wrong right there, and I’m gonna need you to make up for it a different time, because you now owe us an apology.
A lost backpack caused police to close Sunset Boulevard for 4 hours during the November 18 morning rush.
The backpack, sitting on the pavement at a parking lot between Crescent Heights and Laurel Canyon boulevards, caused alarm as a “suspicious package,” Patch reports.
If a backpack in a parking lot can shut down Sunset for an entire morning, just think of what the Archer Expansion project is going to do.
Fighting Hollywood fatcats and their white-shoe attorneys is expensive. We are in this for the long haul, but every little bit helps. Our attorney will do the accounting so there will be no shenanigans!
In the "Pay to the order of", please put "Chatten-Brown & Carstens" and in the memo area, please put "Archer Lawsuit".
City Watch: “Girls’ school’s $840K of lobbying helps charm City Hall … Foes say fight isn’t over,” by John Schwada
Patch: “Over neighbor objections, city approves massive Brentwood school expansion,” by Paige Austin
LA Daily News: “Brentwood neighbors oppose $100 million Archer School for Girls expansion,” by City News Service