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Barbara Van Gelder, Mr. Safavian's lawyer, said in an interview on Saturday that the incident involving Tyco was irrelevant to the charges about the golfing trip, which occurred more than a year earlier. She said that this shows that Jack Abramoff is talking, and this is him trying to climb out of jail. She said that there had been nothing illegal or improper about Mr. Safavian's conversations with Mr. Abramoff about Tyco, but that they were being used as a nasty little trial tactic by prosecutors to damage her client.