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Jackson
Michael D. Brown, the former director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, is sitting in Baton Rouge, so he's not sure at all times who is on the video conference, on the V.T.C., but the record indicates that on numerous occasions, at least Deputy Secretary Jackson and at least Matthew Broderick or Bob Stephans, someone from the H.S.O.C., the Homeland Security Operations Center, is in on those conversations on those V.T.C.'s.