I'd like you to read this internet forum conversation between several users; however, I'd like you to focus unto the main dilemmia -- between these users names: "alt" and "ShinyBuho". Using what is presented from start to finish: determine who had won the argument and triumphed. Here is the conversation: 

Ryan: What 18 year old can afford $250 a month? 

ShinyBuho: [Get a] Full time salary[.] 

Ryan: I guess if you skip your education[,] sure[.] 

ShinyBuho: People work and go to school full time all the time. Do you live under a rock? 

Ryan: Do you? Mate no one works full time in university. You get home at around 4 or 5 pm. then you either do your assignments or you work a couple hours. University work is a LOT. It takes hours. I was lucky I could fit 12 hours into my week. Most did not work and could not. 

ShinyBuho: Yup did nursing school working full time. As well as many other classmates. Many people worked over night as well. Then that means you didn't talk to many people. I met plenty of people who had to work and do school. We didn't get things handed to us. 

Kayla: Nursing is not as demanding as most degrees. I did psychology. You had to do multiple papers a week. You couldn't work; no one did. We did our studies regularly. The average day was like this: you had to get home around 6 P.M. Then, do assignments from 7 - 12 A.M. When can you work? Weekends were for studying. I was swamped. 

ShinyBuho: [Two Laughing Emojis (these imply the user is stupid and is an ad hominem by default (as a reference to be stated once; will continue endlesslllllllllllllllly)] Yeah whatever yoy. Tell that to a class full of BSN students [Two Laughing Emojis] working not recommended -- no [fucking] shit. Doesn't mean everyone can't. Plus, you can work overnight amigo. Plenty of people do [facepalm.] You could've sacrificed sleep. People do it. News flash: some people don't have a choice. 

Ryan: Nursing is an easy degree in comparison. Try microbiology major and medicine minor. You can't work 40 hours alongside 50+ hours of class and lab time. That's over 100 hours of study is included. No one does that. No one. Mathematically, it's essentially impossible when you factor in other needs -- unless, of course, you are Einsteinian [a compliment; not an insult] or with strong worth ethic and mental health. 

ShinyBuho: Whatever you say [Eye Roll Emoji] imagine gatekeeping what a "hard degree is." Get your MSN and let me know how that goes dude [Sarcastic Heart Emoji]. Uh huh. Definitely no one    . Absolutely no one [eye roll] since you know everyone right. You know everyone's situation [two facepalms] geez, you sound like a fool. 

Ryan: At my university, they reocmmended against getting any job and you couldn't take on full time. Exceeding 20 hours goes against their policies. 

Kayla: You must've went to an easy college. Did you go to a community college? Real universities: you literally can't work full time. Tell me: how would you, ShinyBuho [not an insult; she said the name of the commentor as a formality and made a typo which is corrected]. What i you worked full time if you got 5 hours of sleep most days ater classes and papers? Most people can't do that -- so don't expect you to represent the majority of people; calling that person insane is disingenuous. 

Ryan: ShinyBuho definitely went to an easy university lol, and doesn't know what real degrees are like. You have no time to work---quite literally. You get home in the evening with hours of work to get done. She'd have failed my degree even without a job unless his iQ is incredibly high with worth ethic. 

Kayla: Lol, same [laughing emoji; sympathizing to Ryan but not mocking ShinyBuho]. Our professor told students doing 15 hours they should cut back more because it's risky and this person thinks you can do 150 hour work weeks. Dude, I'd wake up at 6 AM to get to school, then to 8 Am and then my classes ended at 5 - 6 PM to ge home at 6 - 7 pm. She thinksssssssssssssss yep let me work from 7 pm - 3am. That only works if you don't study................ Shinybuho is stupid. 

ShinyBuho: "Easy College" [Four Laughing Emojis]. Wow you really just assume a lot huh yikes. Fun fact: it alk with students from all sorts of schools. Use your brain. I hope you learn critical thinking skills. Your priiiiivilege                 is showing like crazy yikes!


Alt: Everyone is different based on their brain structure and hormonal secretions through stress tolerance and other factors. Fact. You don't want to reach a point where your stress hormones induce a full-fledged stroke or heart attack (happens more often than you think), which sacrifices your grades. Some of my cousins had had heart attackes -- fully ledged. 

ShinyBuho: Sureeee they did. Considering I work cardiac unit I've never seen anyone come in for that [eye roll] but go off kid. Again, your privilege is showing kid. FACT. PERIOD. [Three Laughing Emojis]. As if I care what some kid on the internet thinks. Someone is triggered. If you think losing some sleep is going to "cause this [heart attacks] more often than you think", then you again you have no idea kiddo. It's ok stay in school. 

ALt: Then how come it happened? You can't just deny it from happening. And again, your privilege is actually showing -- not mine because my family had to deal with the circumstances, and so must I: that is, potentially risk a heart attack with genetic stressors. But you? You were genetically fine. BUt you insult them for having and suffering such issues -- as to call me a fool is just you being privileged and ableist. Not having enough sleep and extreme stress, with high blood pressure, panic attacks, and anxiety can cause heart attacks. Any medical student can attest; if not, then those wouldn't be things doctors would be saying. It does cause heart attacks when you lose sleep excessively and endlessly, and it lowers your grades and remember: people have different stress thresholds. If I had a choice, between getting a heart attack like my cousins, I would choose not to get one. BUt yet again, it is your privilege to insult my cousins for getting a heart attack due to genetic disposition and stress -- with anxiety and panic attacks and no sleep. Also, AD Hominems aren't good either. You shouldn't insult people and that causes a sign of privilege to show as well: that is ableism. I'm not saying "lose some sleep"; obviously it's O.K. from time to time. Emphasis on the some; I'm saying doing it regularly and endlessly. Whether or not you care about "What some kid on the internet thinks" does not change the objective facts which occur and have occurred, either. Your denial is literally against the scientific method which you studied, I don't care if you don't believe my cousins didn't suffer from it -- but I will never, ever stop defending them and helping them. It's as simple as that. Sleeplessness objectively increases heart attack risk: Fact. Extreme Stress objectively increases heart attack risk: Fact. And Anxiety and high blood pressure: Fact. If anything, I could argue that YOU ARE LYING because you should know these as facts, but since the experiences of one do not match all as you said before, and unlike your "privilege" to deny, I won't deny it; I'll treat it as fact. 

ShinyBuho: Yeah, I'm not reading your paragraphs stupid kid. I'm sure it's all a bunch of triggered nonsense [facepalm] do whatever the fuck you want. I don't care dude. 

Alt: You insult me for making assumptions -- but you do as well? That is a double standard. Just because some people have a genetic and higher disposition to these isuses doesn't justify your hatred and anger towards my cousins and my family, including me, you proved my point with your hypocritical means. 

ShinyBuho: TRIGGERED. FACT. 

Alt: As if you didn't write a bunch of paragraphs either before when totalling them all up, because the forums have a set limit; and what I'm trying to say is this: that does not matter at all, and is a red herring. Ad hominems don't justify anything -- they are basically nonsense because they are illogical. Your entire CREED was based off the rationale of ad hominems and illogical statements. 

ShinyBuho: Who are you? I don't give a fuck about some random kid on the internet. Stay triggered due. No one asked. You interjected yourself into the conversation. [Double Laughing Emojis]. 

Alt: If you don't care -- you shouldn't have the conversation; as a matter of fact, you claimed you weren't going to read anything I would write -- but you did. You are a liar and a hypocrite because of that. You objectively made more assumptions than I did and went back on your own words. I hate to break it to you, but I did not insult you at all once. I just want to say what I want to say. And the conversation with Kayla and the other user ended months ago. Interjected means to intervene; but since it already ended, it is actually not interjection. You misused a definition. 

ShinyBuho: Cry about it. I can say whatever I want. It's the internet bud [thumbs up sarcastic]. 

Alt: I could care less about your red herrings. I have the right to enter it -- and I don't control it if it enters on my FYP. 

ShinyBuho: [Puts 10 yawning emojis to say that he thinks alt is stupid] F A C T  LOL! 

Alt: See, you read what I said again and committed several logical fallacies. You are making no sense. Just saying. 

ShinyBuho: Yeah, you do care. You hit reply [three laghing emojis] nice try though [three laughing emoji]s you're getting very triggered and upset. L and move on bud. Fact [Three Laughing Emojis] Say it all you want. It doesn't matter. FACT. 

Alt: Since you are trying to be disingenuous and act as if you didn't read the messages, it says that you did. However, then you only proved that you are a hypocrite. And secondly, the same reason I hit reply was as you, but for a reason as to represent the people who say that not everyone is he same. As you said beforehand, not recommended no shit and stuff like that means that everyone is different. Therefore, if you deny that you are a hypocrite, and your whole point you made of "people are different; and that doesn't represent" everyone clause and rule before with the others is false and thence you lost. You bully me for saying "FACT" for a statement objectively true; yet say it yourself as well? That is denial. Why? 

ShinyBUho: I have a great idea! Change your username to Fact. FACT. or Fact! [LOL emojis that indicate ridicule] Wow. You really are a liberal snowflake. I'm sorry if you think that is bullying then wow. That's pretty sad. Triggered kid. 

Alt: Actually, you are a bully. Because when I searched your account up on TikTok, you obviously became an internet troll and decided to bully others just for their religious beliefs. IN oxford dictionaries, it means "A person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable." You think I'm vulnerable just because I say something that you disagree with, despite being objectively true after saying some pieces of evidence and resorting to insults. That means you are literally a bully. You did not refute a single point I made; and I thought the conversation is over because you didn't respond for a long time since you said that you would be leaving and "didn't care" because that's what the emojis said. You lied again! Not to Mention: you are in the heart medical unit, right? It's not ethical or in congruence to act in such ways for people who suffered with these issues. You should be feeling sympathy than being angry -- because if your boss found it, you could be fired in theory. OH -- and one more thing: your subjective opinions do not change objective truths; i'll wait for your next response (and feel free to reconvene; ad hominems are nonsense) 

ShinyBuho: Prove it kid. FACT. I don't think I can repeat myself enough. But -clears throat- Triggered. FACT. And I don't think you have a slightest clue what you are talking about. Stay in school. [Sarcastic thumbs-up]. FACT [Six Laughing EMojis] sorry I can't get over how funny that was [three laughing emojis] ya know, since you think you actually said anything really [three laughing emojis]. 

Alt: As I said, you have read the messages I made again and again -- and refer back; I proved it through definitions and terminology. I'm glad that you derive humor as I help you gain knowledge from your mistakes and illogicality -- it shows I'm ethical unlike you. You see me as vulnerable for being a target erroneously --but you don't refute a single claim I've made. Furthermore, you mock me for saying "FACT," but you also repeat phrases I have said as well but a bit more sparingly. That doesn't mean anything; you are a hypocrite. As I've said before (and I'll say it again to reiterate): you are speaking nonsense -- but I am not. AD hominems and red herring are literally nonsense because they are illogical. Illogical things don't mean anything in retrospect. And I actually do know what I am talking about, unlike you. You just spur insults at me and don't even clarify to say how I am wrong. Doctors and aides must be ethical and moral people, but you are not. You are just in denial by thinking that insults are sensible -- when they are factually illogical and as agreed upon by all people. You don't think people can get heart attacks from stress, high blood pressure genetic disposition and other circumstances of the like. It can happen. If I grouped all of your messages, I would you guarantee you this: that most of them would mean nothing in essence for being logically fallacious and nonsensical. And also, how am I illogical. How --- what?! Explain how I don't know what I am talking about -- give a single prove than digressing and staying away from the actual point. 

ShinyBuho: You forgot to add FACT to your sentence [a joke; mockery and ridicule] [Point up finger to my comment with a nerd guy with glasses emoji to say that I'm stupid] [Three Laughing EMojis] [Another Three Luaghing Emojis]. No fucking shit [two facepalms] geez you just like to spew out words and not comprehend what you are saying kid. Please try and pay attention. [Four laughing emojis]. 

Alt: You read those messages again as seen by the "seen" thing that you said it. Laughs do not prove a point at all. You have basically admitted that you are an internet troll -- flat-out without a doubt. I'm glad to have educated you and satisfied your desires. No proof once again to your claim.. We might as well cancel stress and extrended sleeplessness as risk candidates for heart attacks! You are quite the ableist for a doctor as well: you use your own genetic privileges to justify others' to do the same that harms them. Search up conditions like broken heart sydnrome -- hundreds of teenagers suffer from it every year because of high stress and emotional conditions. 

ShinyBuho: You are so dumb -- this is too fucking ez [easy[. [Six laughing Emojis] So Triggered [Six luaghing emojis] L [L could mean loser or is slang?] You too kid! HAHA! 

alt: it's easy for me, because you just admitted it. You are losing and are in denial. The internet troll is the one who spurs insults upon others; for I have not named a single insult towards you. 

ShinyBuho: Can't be easier at this rate that I won. Take the L kid and move on [two laughing emojis]. 

Alt: I forgot to add: you said that "you too kid" in response to either that heart attacks can be caused from the following, or that you are an internet troll, and/or privileged. Either way, all of them imply that you, yourself are also doing such a thing because you said the word "too", which means you do the same. You're either an internet troll, privileged, and/or know that heart attacks can be caused from the following issues. You took ttttthe L -- almost everything you associated with me -- you did yourself, which is hypocritical... ANd since we are speaking on TikTok internet forum, literally on TikTok I found a case of a 17 year old -- a kid that got these issues from it. You and I are just as reliable in retrospect -- but she is the final nail in the coffin for you. And not to mention the constant medical literature. 

ShinyBuho: Congratulations [mocking me] [party award sarcastic emoji with three laughing emojis] too bad you're too triggered. L. 

Alt: Since two incidents are enough to refute your whole, entire claim -- with the scientific evidence I have presented and that I have done enough to satisfy you and grab confessions out of you -- I bid adieu. Have a great day/night -- after all, we are all human [not sarcastic; actual kindness] 

ShinyBuho: Since you're too triggered L [three laughing emojis].















