CONSTITUTION OF KENYA REVIEW COMMISSION - PDF Free Download\n121 downloads 5974 Views 302KB Size\nconstitution of kenya review commission (ckrc) verbatim report of constituency public hearings\nconstitution of kenya review commission ckrc verbatim report of constituency public hearings\nDISSEMINATION OF REPORT AND DRAFT BILL – WAJIR SOUTH CONSTITUENCY HELD AT MADOGASHE PRIMARY SCHOOL\n15 TH OCTOBER, 2002.\nDISSEMINATION OF REPORT AND DRAFT BILL – WAJIR SOUTH CONSTITUENCY HABASWEIN HELD AT MADOGASHE PRIMARY SCHOOL ON 15 TH OCTOBER, 2002.\nPresent Com. Dr. A.A. Nunow. Secretariat in Attendance 1. Daud Abdirahman 2. Asha Boru\nAssistant Programme Officer Verbatim Recorder\nThe meeting started at 9:55AM with Commissioner Dr. Nunow in chair.\nMohammed O. Maalim: Dua kisha waxan ithin shegei na sababtan xalkan ithinkuimaney, martitha na walaithin bareya marka\nwaxan rabna Sheikho ino thuceya Inshallahu dhuca an kubilaune marka\nprogramkangeleyna geleyna Sheikh, Haji Daud.\nHaji Daud: Allahuma Rabbana atina fi dunya hasanata wa fil akhira hasanatan wakina adhaba nar, Allahuma Rabbana ya Rabbana taqabal mina innaka anta samiul alim, watub aleina ya Maulana inaka anta tawabul Rahim, wa adina wafiqna ilal haq wa ila thariqal mustaqim, barakatul khatimil Qur’anil athim, wathuco watahabibika warusikal karim, wa afuana ya Rahim, wa afuana ya Karim, Allahuma ma Sali ala Muhammad – AMIN.\nMohammed O. Maalim: Asante sana Sheikh. Nafikiri mlikuwa na mketi chini kidogo mlikuwa na Bwana DO, tulikuwa na nyinyi. Leo tulikuja na target yetu ni wananchi, wote wanaelewa Kisomali isipokuwa Bwana DO si ndiyo? Audience: Ndio.\nMohammed O. Maalim: Nafikiri ili mfaidike vizuri, tutaongea lugha ya Kisomali msikize vile mtaelezwa baadaye mtakuwa na reactions ama concern. Kwa hivyo, waxan rabna inan ithin shegno sithey mar xorey tharath an ithin la chogney waxa loo imathey sherciga wadhanka oo lakorey Habasweine afti lagakathey, aftithi iyatha exeth bugu wala ithin keney sathax bug an xalkan xeina, bug wa bugan guthuthan oo reportka dama lagu samarize garein, buga kale na wa ti 2\nHabasweine laga kathey oo manta isaga na walakeney marka kuwan ma bathna wa othki Habaswein aath soo korten.\nMarka waxa chirta lava boqol iyo tovan constituency Habasweine ketha wakan reportketha bixisen marka reportyixi iyaga odan waxa laisku geye draft constitutionki wadhanka Kenya.\nLavatha boqol iyo tovanki constituency\nreportkothi waxa laisku geye xal bug caa, bug gas ninkasta wa xeista marka waxan rabna inan in shegno sababti xalkan loo imathey. Bugu laso korey aya la saxaya manta, buga laso korey aya larava in lasaxa xathi maonigi wax laga bothey, sheigi kuracsanein, sheigath kuracsantixin waxa larava in labilavo thotha manta keli daman meiso, Commissionerska iyo dhathki imathey an xorta iskin bareya, sabatu uu imathey na ayan ithin shegeya, wilkeni xalkan nasib wanag rer Wajir South ama rer Wajir caxai Dr. Commissioner Abdirizak Arale waath garaneysin, isaga manta inoimathey oo marti ino caa, Daud wa nin isaga na akon yan aa xaga sherciga uu caxristey oo Nairobi kashaqeya marka sei kothob kasta an nagula dicing isaga na wanala soctha, waxath shegtin na manta wa koraya, DOI kena na wavath garaneysin isaga na wa walalkena Haji, isaga na xath iyo cheri ithin kucavavulei carimaxan inath ka keibkathatin. Walashen Asha Nairobi bei iyatha na kaimatey kofkasta lugatha uu garaneyo xaa kuxathlo ninka translation ubaxan waa lo tafsiraya, ninka af Somali kuxathli kara na waiska xathleya marka Asha na iyatha na kor bei ka imatey inta waa martithi, wathath kena Nairobi waxan noga imathey Wajir wa shaqalaxa dhowlatha na isaga, inta na Mohammed Kasai wa ninka isaga na xalkan shaqa kakabtey. Mohammed Kasai wath garaneysin somaxa? Audience: Xaa.\nMohammed O. Maalim: Chiefkena kole wath garaneysin, aniga na magaceyga wa Mohammed Omar wa ninka ukabilsan guthiga sherciga bethelka distriga ragan na Nairobi bei noga imathen. Maxa loo imathe manta, aftithi laithin ka kathey, Habaswein waxti xorey laga kagathey, Sabuli iyo Habaswein lagakathey somexein, aptitha lakathey aya manta labilaweya dhothi. Bugan waxa lathavacey bishi sagalatha, tarek twenty seven, marka dhowtha iyo debateka waxas furanyaxai xal bilca, ila bisha lagareyei bisha tovanath tarek twenty seven aya lathoneya debateka ee socoto.\nMarka Commissionka wexey uu imathen in dhothi ee bilavan marka ninkasta dekaxa iney isla imathan manta aniga wax bathan maxathlai iyaka na wax bathan maxathlayin. Xathalka waxa laga rava waa ithinka maxa yelei fursath bathan ayan Kenya dib ugu dacney tan inan kafaitheysano ayan dhoneyna marka waxan kuwarechineya Commissionerga marka ogatha marka wasitha mar xore an ithin shegney carintan Wajir waa kadacthey, Griftu waa kadacthey tarek sagal, koi iyo tovanka na wexei kadacthey Bute, marka xalka jamacatha nalaga yiratha wa sitha xorey an uu shegney, jamacath waxan rabna sucala bathan iyo carima bathan iney kasobaxan aath oo kafacitheysin oo anaka na aan kafaitheysano.\nMarka nin kasta wixi gal thambe aath kashegi lexeth, xalkan inath kashegto aya larava, masfaxane? Audience: Xaa. 3\nMohammed O. Maalim: Dhowtha manta xal kelix kuma damaneyso, buga laithin siyei ninkasta xa caxristo laakin xatha wala ithin kor mareya waxanan uu yereya Commissioner Dr. Abdirizak, please welcome.\nCom. Nunow: Thank you. Assallam aleikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh? Audience: Wa aleikum sallam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.\nCom. Nunow: Waxan kubilavi xorta inan ithin mathaxeyo ithinko waxti xeley oo kagaso keib geshan carimaxan matna an rabney inan kaxathalno, carimaxaso kuxisabsan xabki dhib lokori laxa sherciga wadhanka, xol sosocotey weyan inti mudha sanath iyo bar kabathan, xatha na gebo gebo kuchirta maadhama dhathka fikrath laga kathey oo fikrathothi aan dhavacney wexey xuri weisey iney fikratha sitha kolki xorey aan balan kathnein dhathka laguso celiya oo dhathki ogathan fikrathoxotha ila daman lamawatha kathin, wexey iyaga kuxathlin oo melkale loga xathley walaguso tharey wayo lava boqol iyo tovan meloth aya dhathka fikratha laga weithiyei oo mel walba oo muthane lagaso thorta, wan kuwaregney oo fikrathaxa ayan kaso cathnei, fikrathaxa iyaga marka laso gava gevey, wixi dafsan fikrathi constitueciga xaska kucaxa waxan kudhavacney sathax bug. Sathaxthi bug, mith wa minkan oo laso gaviyei, inyar ban aamuse xorta intath kafarisaneysan.\nDhathka ayar xafaristen marka waxan rabna inath ogatin\nwalathuveya carimaxan sithey uu socthan marka kofka sucal kaba gathal xakaweithiyo laakin xaga dega xaimatho xalafaristo, gathal thambey ayath sucal kaweithineysin xatha dageista sifican.\nWayaxai waxan sithan shegei wax alal wixi lagu xathlei waxan kuso gava gaveyney koral kakovan sathax noo, lava wa xal bug oo isla soctho, buga isaga caxa oo laso gaviyei ayu bugan metheleya, bugan waxa weye tothovatan iyo shan bu kakovan yaxai, bugisa weina na wa ila tothova boqol oo page. Racixi kuchirey bugas wein daman intey kuchiran xase yeshei lagama falonin, mel lagaga xathlei na lama shegin, bugas wein oo tothovatha boqol oo bal kakovan ayei kutala xoshi odan oo bugan laso gaviyei uu kaxathleya. Lavatha bug wei watha socthan, waxa kalo oo wexeliya oo iyatha na lathavacey draft bill kan xanshathan lagu korey oo isaga na inta kuchira oo daman aa wixi kothob caxan, report intan kaso sarney sherciga usub inu kakebkato an ugu tala gelney.\nIla xatha see waxa weye recommendation wax layiratha wa fikrath caxan guthiga waxa uu soo guthbiyei xathi lakathan thono iyo xathi labetheli thono wexey uu tala isku imathka wein oo laisku imani thono Nairobi oo wadhanka odan districk walba sathax kof ee kaimaneyan iyo bokol iyo shan iyo lavatan kof ook aimathan oo kaimathan xeyathaxa saman falka iyo muthanayasha barlamanka chogan lava boqol iyo laviyo lavatan daman. Shirkas aya wixi labethelaya labetheli, wixi lagu thari na guthari xase yeshei inta kaxor waxan wajib naga saran yaxai anaga inan dhath weinixi oo geysina waxa kuso baxai reportka iyo draft billkava oo sherciga an daxney xanoktho shericga usub oo wadhanka.\nRunti waxa weye xorta waxtigi ba cariri nokthey koralkan na koral caath lo thethechiyei ayu nokthey amaxa yelei dhathki wuxu uu baxna sherci usub si daxso aa maathama sanath thorasha uu naguso caathey xase yeshei anaga awothas dhowrashatha wei na dafsantaxai anaga awotha natha keliya wexei kucegtaxai dhath weinaxa inan fikrath kacathno, fikrathi inan soo dhavacno oo dhath weinaxa aan ogeysino waxan soo davacney, kathib conferenska laisugu imatho lagathotho wixi kasobaxa conferenceka aan dhib ukorno mar lavath mutha dor malin aan kukorney kathib barlamanka an uu guthbiney.\nBarlamanka na marki uu xelo mutha an tothova malmoth an kabath nein waa in uu gocamiya oo uu sherciga basmareya. Marki uu katego barlamanka sherciga usub uxu uu tegeya mathax weinaxa, mathax weinaxa na waxa xaga sherciga usub lagu dhavacaye, uxu kukasban yaxai mudha totova malmoth inu kabathan usan xainin sherciga usub isagon xainin. Marka nadhamka anaga an kutala gelney xathi lagu soctho bisha laviyo tovnath bartamathetha wixi kaxoreya shan iyo tovanka ee ugu thambeyso, sherciga usub wadhanka inu uu xergelo aya anaka programme keina caxa.\nXase yeshe intas waxyala bathan ba kaxoreya uu kuxiran yaxai, waxa kamith caa inu barlamanka disan yaxai inta maxa yelei barlamanka xathusan disnein, conferencekan lasugu imaneya lixtha boqol iyo dor kof isugu imaneyan madici dhono, xathu conferenceka dicing na shercigan usub masoconeyo wa ila barlamanka lagu chogo.\nconferenceka intu daco marku conferenceka saa udamatha ilen barlamanka labur buriyo na shercigi mesha iyatha masi dafi kara xathan. Maxa yelei waxa lathoneya marku kaimatho conferencka inu barlamanka utego, barlamanka marku inu disan yaxai ayei na xureynin.\nInta wexei kutuseisa xoushan manta wixi kathambeya iney taxai xol dafsan guthigi lo xilsarey shercigan bethelkisa on aniga kasoctho maxa yelei barlamanka ayu ku xiranyaxai iyo dismathisa. Guthi caxan na guthigan shaqathisa wexei damaneysa bisha laviyo tovnath, bisha laviyo tovnath xathu barlamanka inti beri lachaviyo waxtiga naga inagu damatho bisha laviyotovnath, barlamanka na uu xilsaran shercigan dhejiskisa iyo nadhamka sherciga lagu dhejiyey ba.\nMarka xathi barlamanki on chirin waxtiga naga uu damatho xoushaini daman xalkasey kucegtaxai. Kadhib barlaman usub marka ladiso oo dhorasha lasameyo aya xol geleya sherciga usbath sitha lagu melen laxa ama guthi usub xamagacavan na ama iyaga barlaman xoulaxa xala waregan na. Guthigan marka xatha shercigan dhavacey waxtiga bishi laviyo tovan kuxir gelei, xathise barlamanka uu disan yaxai ila bisha laviyo tovnath, sherciga usub waa la melein kara, sherciga usub oo lamelei ayu guthiga waxtigisa damanaya xoushisi na lagu dameyei marka.\nXathi barlamanka lajaviyo waxtigan kaxor, divatoyinka an soshegei aya maraktey wadhanka soo koveya, sithi loga bixi laxa na waa carin dafsan guthiga o guthiga wexey kacavan kara ena chirin, maxa yelei barlamanka javis kisa iyo 5\njavis lacantisa waa xol mathaxweinaxa uu tala. Mathaxweina keliya aya barlamanka jevin kara ama dhain kara, cith kasta oo kailisa xathu mathax weinaxa uu kutala geley inu dageisanin barlamanka sas uu kuchavin dhowrasho uu yeri.\nMarka tas na waxa weye tu an shercigan xatha yala iyatho lacistiqmalaya shercigan xatha yala aya cawotha sineya mathax weinaxa uu xoshan kugelo, cith wax kagavan karta na wei yartaxai. MP tha wa kaqavan karin, waxa wax kagavan karin barlamanka daman ama guthigan Commissionka loo xilsarey shercigan dhur xaven tisa.\nMarka anigon thoneyna waxtiga ina lagusi dereya ayan waxan geleya carimaxa ugu wawein oo sherciga usub an kusosarney. Wadhanka marki aan kuwaregney oo dhathka fikrathisa an wadha weithiney, wax yalaxa dhathka daman uu isku racey waxan kuso gava gaveyney sathax iyo tovan kothob. Sathax iyo tovan kothob aya melkasta oo lategei inta bathan loga xathley, inta kale oo melaxa kas kas uu caxa xathi lagareve weye. Mitha ugu xorey waxa daman dhathka uu kakobna in wadhankan dhathka kunol ee caxathan dhath kuno nolol rasmi caa oo dhowlatha octaxai oo nolol dhath weinaxa uu xeli kara wax yalaxa uu nafta ee naka marmeinin maxa kamith caa:•\nWaxa mith aa cunta,\nDhar la xirto wax laxirto,\nNavath gelyo iyo,\nCarimaxas dhowlatha iney wajib iska sarto oo dhathweinaxa ee yaqiniso dhath weinaxa inu carimaxa xeli karo oo nolol sugan uu kunolani karo. Waxa kale oo dhathka bathi uu isku racey wadhanka dhathka kunol iney ravan nadham nin walba uu wadhanka kunol uu dul kuxelo onan kuchirin kof mel uu sextho uu kudisto uu lacyaxai oo mel uleyaxa kofka usan chirin oo shaqsi walba wadhanka kunol uu noktho shaqsi xeli kara mel uu kadisto uu dego.\nKothobka sathaxath waxa weye oo daman isku racey dhathka, dhath weinaxa in uu ruksa uuxelo ama cawoth uu xela uu gocamixisa isaga uu kumeleya noloshisa, gocan kuseysa nolosha kofka inu isaga gocanka lothayo oo uu gocan kagara wax alala wixi naftisa camfaceysa ama gocan yaxa kuxisabsan waxa naftisa kofka diveysa. Tas na wexey uyertei oo ee xureynin nadhamki iyo mamulka dhowlatha in dhathka loso doweyo oo nin walba meshu kunolyaxai wadhanka usan soconin kilometar yal aath uu farabathan sithu kugaro mamulka dhowlatha.\nXafisatha shicibka usan kamarmin waxa kamith aa xafisatha kipandatha kabixiyo, xafisatha waragtha dalashatha laga bixiyo, makebta xafimathka, keibta taclinta, maxakamathaxa, daman dhathka in loso doweya oo marka ee ugu 6\nfoctaxai ee caxata iney divisionka tala oina nokonin maxakamatha ugu xorey oo kalugbilavi iney nokoto maxakamatha iney kutala. Wayo taa wexey kentey mamulka dhowlatha inu kafacitho dhathki magaloyinka wein dhegana un oo dhathki tuloyinka dhegana oo kafoga mamulka saldiga uu kafogatho mamulka dhowlatha na.\nDhatka bathi wexey kale isku racen mamulka wadhanka inan shaqsi gacanta logelinin oo dhath farabathan okale aa iyagon tashanin gocan laga garin mamulka wadhanka oo xal kof ama lava kof sithey dhonan ee wadhanka kumamulin oo ee nokota carin laga tashatha oo intaso kof gacanta ugu chira iney intas isku imathan moogiye ena gocan ee gari karin keib iyaga kamith aa.\nWaxa kale oo dhathka bathi uu isku racey muthanayasha laso thorta iney nocthan muthanayal dhath uu shaqeya, muthana yal waxtigotha odan kucisticmaley dhathki sothortey iney ganciyan oo na nokonin dhathki laso thortey dhath xukumaya. Ninka laso thorto wa inu ka camar kata dhathka so thortey usan nokonin nin dhathka sothortey isaga xukumeya oo isaga uu xukumaya oo dhathki ee yixin dhathku isaga cajinaya amal. Wayo muthana yasha waxa shaqatha koraya dhathka thoranaya oo waxbixinka sameneya sas augeth muthana yasha lathorto ayu noc ama MP xacaxatho ama Councillor xanoktho wa iney nokthan dhathki so thortey dhath kathambeya oo latashatha oo kuwar celineya. Mitha lavath, wa iney nokthan dhath xath iyo cheri shanta malin oo wiga shakeynaya. Muthanayasha xatha lava malmoth bei shaqeyan wiki va, arbaca na wei shaqeyan, talatha na nus bei kashaqeyan khamista na nus bey kashaqeyan. Wa lava malmoth marka laisku tharo.\nDhathka dhatweinaxa wexey isku racen dhathkas iney nokthan dhath shan malin shaqeinaya, waa nin walba ee laso thorto inu constituencigisa kuleyaxai mel xafis caa oo disma caa. Dismathas inu MP ga diso maxa, wayo MP ga xathu diso xathanan MP ga lathoranin mar lavath ama markale laso celinin cafiskisi na uu xiran xathu thono. Dhowlatha aya uu xilsaran iney disto xafis muthanaxa uu leyaxai saldiga mesha dhowrashatha laga sameyo oo xafiska uu noktho xafis dhowlatha ee lethaxai oo mamul yala ee computer tala oo fax tala, oo telephone yala oo secretary jogo oo xath iyo cher xathu chogo iyo xathi chogin ba, farintisa lakoreya oo muthanaxa xathu makan yaxai iyo xathu mesha chogo ba uu lasogtho dhathkisa iyo dhantisa ba.\nWaxa kalo laisku racey muthanixi xathu noctho mith camfici wayo, wayo kofka marku isiso sharaxo nin walba dhaxab bu iska digeya, nin walba uu is wanachineya, marki la thorto na wuxu thono bu kuso baxi kara. Shanta xan markath thorato inath kugu thambeyso aya dici kara ila ee damato na ee kuguso nokonin.\nMarka dhath weinaxa wexei weithisten cawoth xathi ninka ee dhorten ama kofki ee dhorten uu camfici waya, waxtigi shanta sano on lagarin iney kasari karan kursiga oo oth divi karan kofti isaga ee kusoceliyan ee mith kale kuthortan. Waxa kale oo dhathka bathi kakobna, dhathka mathaxtha wadhanka mamulaya ama mith lathorta caxatho ama mith 7\njaga loo magacavey xacaxathey iney nokthan dhath lalush iyo qainimo kakoreya on kusal lexein in xava yaratey wax ama laluush kuxisabsan ama kacin nimo kuxisabsan ama dhath kala gein kuxisabsan.\nWaxa kale oo shicibka uu isku racey bathi cithanka boliska inu caxatho cithan shicibka wadhanka xishmatheneya, kathambeya oo mamulaya oo wanagi dhathka katalineya usan nokon cithan gumeysanaya dhathka wadhanka jogey oo logutala geley inu uu cathego. Iyaga na waxa dhowlatha kukasbantaxai cithama mamulka xayan iyaga na waxa dhowlatha kukasban taxai idhamatha mamulka xayan oo boliska uu kamith yaxai, in dhowlath ee isku xil sarto iney nolol wanagsan kunolathan dhathka iyaga caxa ona nokonin dhath divata guriga kaxeisata kufuraya amana kufuraya shicibki, sas augeth shicibki an lagu cathegeinin sithi lathono ama sithi kuxaboneth.\nMarkas ayu shicibkana xishmatheneya cithanka boliska oo lanokoneya dhath marka cithanka boliska dhathka saxib laca oo dhathka war ee uu gein karan. Maxa yelei imbathan wadhanka waxa dacthey, kofka shicibka xathu boliska report ugeyo in lagaraco, in divatoyin uu kala kulmani kolku geyo. Tas na wexei kentei burcath nimo iyo tuga nimo socoto oo caath shicibki mel uu dhacwotho uu wayo usan geineinin. Ta waxa logabixi kara shicibki iyo boliski iney saxib nokthan oo mith walba mithka kale uu xishmathey oo cithanka na nolol uu kaga marmi karo divatoyinka gurigisa uu kunolatho.\nWaxa kalo oo dhathka bathi isku racen dhumarka xaqotha in lasiyo, dhumarka binaathinimathotha in la tax geliyo oo laqimeyo onan laga digin dhath athonsi kuchoga koski okale guriga. Fikrathoyinka nocasa dhath mela aath uu fara bathan ayei kaso caroren waxa kale oo dhath bathan guthiga uu shegei cilmaxa noloshotha in lasuga on cilmaxa loogolatho iney kunolathan nolol wanagsan. Cunuga kas caxan cilmaxa ana walithka lexein oo cagomaxa aa iyo cilmaxa ama lathurey oo wadhoyinka yala in loo ogolatha nolol wanaqsan oo guriyo cagomo lagu xananeyo dhowlatha ee distan onan laxelin cilma iska soctho on cith mamuleysa na chirin mel uu kuxoyanayo na chirin, tas oo cilmexetha caxa xatha markey rag wein nokthen, tugo nimo iyo burcath nimo wadhanka ee kusi kordisey.\nWaxa kalo dhathka bathi isku racey dhathka curiyanka ama maskaxthotha lagu chiro oo lixthotha lixath an kamilka exein, nolol wanagsan iney kunolathan oo dhathka wadhanka kunol odan ee nokthan dhath qimeneya dhathka iyaga caxa. Dhowlatha na kas caxan, wexey kukasbantaxai shercigan usub xathi lasugo, in dhathka curiyanka ama dhathka lixtha lixath diman ee xath iyo cher mel alala meshi dhowlatha xafis dhowlatha ee keib kasisa, taclinta na ee sisa jamacathaxa na ee keib kasisa, mel alala mel dhowlatha ee amar kabixineyso loo ogolatha dhathka iyaga aa iney keibtotha kagatan.\nWaina dhathka iyaga aa loguyerin magacyo ee necebyixin, mabnuq weye kof lixtha lixath diman, lixthisa lixath oo din neth in cai logadigo, xathi kofkas uu dhacwotho oo maxakamath tega, maxakamathas kofki carinta kuso bulshatey kusugnata waa dhambi wanalagu xireya marka wayo dhathki iyaga caxa aath bei ugashegten magacyo laguyero on 8\nkuxabonein in loguyero.\nWaxa kalo oo dhathka bathi isku racen kavil walba oo wadhanka kunol in laxishmathey, in laqimeyo, wadhani na inu yaxai lo tax geliyo oo looqimeyo. Tas wexey gar caxan uu kuseysa dhathka govolkan kunol oo inta bathan lola dacthey si an wanagsanein oo si kathugan ama daqan kathugan nadhamyatha kale oo loladacmo gavilatha kale oo wadhanka kunol. Sas augeth, dhath govolka kunol keliya mehe, dhath govolkan dheriska nala ce na kunol, dhath kuno govolka Rift Valley, Turkana iyo Samburu ee kakovan yixin, dhathka inta bathan xola daqatatha caa nadham anan sugnein oo wanagsanein ba lagula dakan chirey, shercigan usub na ucu leyaxai qavil walba in loo ogolatho xorta in lokimeyo inu wadhani yaxai oo wadhani nimatha sas la tax geliya.\nMitha lavath, qavil walba in lo ogolatha dhath walba oo wadhanka kunol in lo ogolatha iney xithi iyo daqan kotha racan xathu san shercig xilaveynin. Sherciga wadhanka xathusan kilaveynin iney xithi iyo daqan kotha racan oo loo ogolatho in loo olatho wax alala wixi dhintotha aa oo isticmaleyan.\nMarka xaqa dhinta iyo xaqa xithi iyo daqanka ba in loo ogolatho kolo walba oo wadhanka kunol oo dhoneysa iney kucamal fasha daqankethi ama dhintethi. Dhowlatha iney nokoto dhowlath ka camar qathata shicibkethi, xafisyatha dhowlatha mamulka dhowlatha odan wa iney uu furnathan shicibka isku si na ufurnathan osan nokonin mel kodi loga carursatho shicibki logu tala gelei xafiska inu mamulo oo lofurey xafiska ba. Carimaxas dhathka wadhanka inta bathan boqolki ba shan iyo sagashan wei kakobnayen.\nWaxa kale oo sherciga usub aan kukorney xaqa dhumarka, oo isaga na aath uu farabathan, waxa kamith caa dhumarka iney math nuc taxai in lagu mithib takora dhumar nimo oo kofka xaq lagu thitho iyatho oo dhumar nimo loo thalishaneyo dhumar ba taxai in kofka ama shaqa loguthitho ama loguthitho wax xaq ee uulethaxai iney xesho. Waxan dhumarka lagu mithibtakoni karin dhumarkas oo ur aa, ur ba taxai dhumarka loguthithi shaqa. Mela fara bathan oo shaqalaxa wadhanka laga koro ama xafisya mathax banan oo shirkatho aa oo wadhanka kadaxshaqeyan aya markei interview iyo wax sameyan wexei kabaran iney xorta ur taxai iyo in kale, xathey ur kuxelan wayo wexey ogyixin lix biloth, tothova biloth, sitheth biloth Kadhib fasax bei weithisani, sas augeth shaqathi iyatho on leshegein on ladexeynin ur ba taxai balaguthithi ba lothithi.\nShercigan usub xathu xergelo waxa macnu caa koftan xathi interview lagakatho inan xata ur laga bari karin maxa yelei ninki interviewga lagala kathey ur lagama bareyo, iyatha ur laga bareyo derath uu yaxai, uxu natuseya in waxas xathi lagaxelo laga yava in loo isticmaleyo. Sas augeth ninka iyo dhumarka mtixanka wadha geleya iney siku shey laga baro, xathu uthur yaxai uthur lagawatha baro, xathu wax kale yaxai daman ee kasimnathan. Kofta xathey ur uu kusobaxo ee ur taxa an lagu thithin ama lagu takorin ur nimathas.\nWaxa macnuc aa in dhumarka lagumithib takora iyatho lakava ama an lakavin, walagu kava iney kil uu nokonin ama laguma kavo ee na kil nokonin ama shaqa lagusiyo ama loguthitho ama xaq logusiyo ama loguthitho. Sherciga usub xuquqtha dhumarka siyo waxa kalo kamith aa quras usub oo sagashan aa oo barlamanka lava boqol iyo tovanka manta yala xalagu tharo sherciga usub aan daxnein ba chira. Sagashanka kursi mexey yixin? Sagashanka kursi waxa logutala geley dhathka wadhanka keibtisa an keib an lawatha geli karin on la tar tami karin in uu lasimnatha ama ulasima dhathka wadhanka kunol odan.\nDhumarka sagashanka kursi, waxan daxney afartan iyo shan kursi, nus iney dhumar caxathan, nus na rag ee caxathan ama dhumar xathey thonan ee kuthar tami karan, wayo barlamanka lava boqol iyo tovanka aa, sith kof aya dhumar ka caa manta. Dhumarka marka wexey muchiyen iney la tar tami karin raga, inta bathan maxa yelei meshei thonan xata campaign macathi karan ila nin bei camar kaqathanayan, sithey ravan uma waregi karan. Ninka raga see campaignkisa xaven iyo darar bu wathi kara sithu thono bu waregi kara, tan cilma la xarira, nin ba laxarira oo camar bixineya, sas augeth, iney tartankothi ee kusobixi waya xathi losimo iyaga iyo raga.\nSagashan kursi, sagashanka kuras oo barlamanka an kuthareyno oo ama an lenaxai xalagu tharo waxa lathoraneya yal lava boqol iyo tovanka kursi, waxa lothoran MP yal kasogtha constituenciga. Sagashanka kursi see waxa laga thorani xisbi yasaha, marka kuratha aath ritheysith, kuraxa waxath uu rithi kursiga MP na wath uu rithi, xisbiga aath thonto na wath uu rithi, kasab maxa xisbiga aath kuritheysith xisbiga MP uu kasocthey. Waxa dici karta MP ga shaqsi caxan aath uu checeshaxai laakin mabtaca xisbiga uu kasoctho anath raceynin onath ravin marka xisbi ala xisb aa thonto aya kursi ugu ritheysa. Wax alala wixi kura oo logurithey xisbiyasha odan ba laiskutharaya, xathi xisbiga uu xelo boqolki ba tovan, kurixi larithey oo xisbiyasha loo rithey, sagashanka kursi boqolki va tovan buu kaxeleya, sagal kursi buu xeleya xisbiga isaga aa.\nMarka xisbi walba waxa larava dhathka uu magacaveyo kurastas dhath xor loo ogyaxai thorashatha xorteth iney nokthan. Xisbi walba uxu koreya listigisa oo dhathki uu leyaxai dhathkan ban uu magacavi xathan xelo wixi kurasta xele, kabilavata kow ila sagashan, wayo xisbi walba wuxu kuxisabtami kuraxa odan ina isaga logushivayo wayo xatha xisbigas kurixi odan isaga logushuvo, sagashanka kursi bu kathani, marka magacyaxa listi lakorayo waa rag iyo dhumar iney isku dhava marsanathan. Nin marka lakoro nag waina kuhigto weye ila ee kadamathan.\nMitha lavath, dhathkan ee koreyan xisbiyasha waxa kasab caa iney kakobnathan govolatha odan, sithetan magac oo kukoran iney sithetan govol kasocthan, sithetan kuxigta na sas okale. Si sagashanki magac ee kucaxathan sithetan iyo sitheth sitheth govol weye, govolka ugu yar wexey kathani kou iyo tovan guri, sithetan iyo sithe kursi weyan, lava govol ba min laviyotovan kursi kathani, manaxa inath govolko magacyixisa aath xor mariso govol na aath gathal mariso. Sithethan magac aath korto ba wa ina sitheth govol caxathan, xatha sithetha kuxigta ee saa caxathan ila aath kadameysith. 10\nMarka govolatha anan la tar tameinin ama constituencigotha uu yar yaxai oo dhath yar barlamanka uthortan sitha govolkena okale, wexey lasimnaneyan govolatha kale odan, govolka Rift Valley oo dor iyo lavatanka district qava iyo anaga afar district keli kabno, waxan kasimnaneyna dhathka iyaga aa sagashanka isku jog keibsaneyna. Marka sagashan kursi waxan ugutalagelney, dhathka anan latar tami karin dhathka kale ama kathambeya ama ka constituency yar iney isku keib katan oo barlamanka sas ugu batan.\nXaqa dhumarka marka tas ayei iyatha na so geishei maadhama magacyixi loo magacaveye dhumar iyo rag isku dafsan, wexey xureinin afartan iyo shan ee dhumar nokthan afar iyo shan na ama dhumar iyo rag ee nokthan.\nWaxa kale oo dhumarka loo sameyei guthi walba oo dhowlatha ee lethaxai, mamul walba oo dhowlatha as asta in dhumarka sathax meloth marka lodigo mel uu isaga kafurnatha. Sathax kof xathi mel loo magacavo iney mith dhumar nokoto, waxa kalo oo dhumarka xuquqthotha mujinayo shercigan usub, in dhumarka loo ogolatho inu kacebkata xisbiyatha siyasiga oo mamulka xisbiyatha siyasiga sathax meloth marka lodiga mel uu dhumar kanoctha. Xisbiyatha siyasiga ee democratic nokthan oo dhowrashathotha nokoto dhowrasho kusal le mabtaca iyo nadham democracia.\nDhumarka in xaq losiyo oo simnasha raga lolasiyo xaga taclinta oo nokthan dhath iyaga na taclinta xaqotha uu mujinayo oo kakeib kathan kara wax barashatha iyago anan lagu bixinin dhumar nimo. Wax alala wixi xithi iyo dakan aa inu sherciga wafaqa weyan, xathusan dhin kusal lexein oo xithi iyo dakan uu yaxai, inu shercigan wafaqa oo wixi xithi iyo daqan oxo dhumarka cambith xenayo sherciga laga thugsatha oo laga tega lajojiya xathu xiti iyo dakan uu yaxai wax dhumar gacan bixineya sherciga keibtisa uu xaqa uu sinayo dhumarka loo firiya oo laga isticmala. Waa inta uu sherciga dhinta wafaqsan yaxai xathu xilafsanyaxai dhowth mageleyso iyatha.\nWaxa kale oo dhumarka xaqisa mujinayo, dhumarka in xaq losiyo wadhani nimatha uu kusini kara ninketha ee kusini karta ena kusin karta cilmexetha. Waxtigan xathirka caa, ninka wadhaniga aa xathu nag shisheya gursatho, nagtas wadhani nimo aya lasineya, cilmaxa ee dalan dhathkas na wadhani nimathotha na watos. Xathi se nag wadhani aa ee gursata nin ajanavi aa shisheya aa ninkas wadhani nimo lamasineyo, sherci xatha yala weye, cilmaxa ee dalan wadhani nimo lama sineyo maadhama ninki uu nin shisheya yaxai. Raga iyo dhumarka iney uu simnathan xaga wadhani nimatha. Sherciga manta yala wuxu yaxai kofta wadhaniga aa oo Kenyanka aa xathi ee gursato nin shisheya oo wadhan kale kayimathe, ninkas wadhani nimo lamasineyo, loguma sineyo nagtisa aya Kenyan aa, cilmaxa ee lavatha kof wadha dalan na Kenyan nimo lamasineyo ee wexey sheganayan wadhanku aboxoth kayimathey. Xase yeshei shercigan usub uxu leyaxai, rag iyo dhumar mil ala mithku thono xanoctho, shaqsigi Kenyan aa oo kof shisheya kala gursatho, in mithkisa kale wadhani nimo lasinayo, cilmaxa ee iyagu dalan na lavathas kof, wadhani nimo aya lasineya iyaga na. 11\nTaa iyatha ee wexei iyatha na so mujisey xaq sherciga usub uu dhumarka sinayo, dhumarka wuxu kalo xaq kuleyaxai oo sherciga usub kaso fulaya in markey kofta so daleyso xaqetha sherciga uu bath bathinayo uu cilalinayo. Koftas ena kugafi karin xaq mushar ama xaq wax kalo oo maraktey inu sogela shercig uu urugseyei ama shaqatha ee uu ruqseyse oo madhama ee maternity leave ee cathey lagarevayo oo lasineinin. In maternity leaveka uu xaqetha yaxai oo cathi karta iney xatho na xaq ulethaxai, wax alala wixi xaq ee lexeith na iyatho on shaqeneysa camal ee uu xeleyso ila xata promotion xathey daraja sobaxtho iyatho makan iyatho xafiska jogto camal sithey uu xeli lexeth iney uu xesho weyan iyatho makan.\nWaxa kale oo mabnuc aa dhumarka ina lagu gacan bixtheyo keibta shakafinta iyo keibta mesha laga shaqenayo oo ladigin iney kofta tiratho meshan kama shaqein karin moye ona ana lodixn meshan kof kama shaqein karto, rag ba kashaqein kara, inkasta oo mela fara bathan an tegney dor meloth ee dexen dhumarka, si anan anaga na shaqatha raga uqavanaya an kuqavana waa in nadhamkisa mel nalodiga. Waxa kamith aa jawanaxa baburta lagu raraya ama laga thejinaya, wexei dexen jawanathas in layareyo oo kuwan boqolka kilo keli ee nokonin ee kuwa tovan kilo na lasameyo aan dhejin karno an rari karno.\nMarka sinasa machirto laakin wexey wethineyan iney kakeibkatan\nnadhamki ee kagakeib kathan laxayen na loo sameyo.\nWaxa kalo oo dhumarka uu sherciga usub sineya dhumarka maxabiska aa oo dhambi intu gelo xaq iska gela in xaqisa lailaliyo oo dhumar kas loo ogolatho in laga ilaliyo wixi divatoyin aa sithi dhilka okale, raga iyo iyaga na inan na isku mel laiksu xirin. In loo ogolatha iney koftas xirata labis wafaqsan dhintetha, kof xathey taxai mathalan mathexetha ee dhethatha, dar der ee xirata oo loo ogolatha civathatha iney fasha labis kabilsan dhintetha na ee xirata. Xuquqtha uu sherciga usub uu dhumarka sineya intas ban kaga bixi waxan wax yar kashegi xuquqtha dhathka curiyanka aa sherciga usub uu uso sarey.\nWaxa kamith aa gacan bixthein lagu gacan bixthenayo curiyan nimo iney mabnuc taxai oo kofka xathi xaq uu leyaxai loo guthitho ama shaqa loguthitho curiyan nimo iney macnu taxai oo shercigan usub usan ogolein. Curiyan nimathas na sitha xore walagasi balariyei waxa kuchira dhathka cuthuratha an dawatha lexein kavan oo xanunsaneya sitha cuthuratha cancerga, cuthuratha AID okale, shirkatha bathi wadhanka kadax shaqeya, kof xathu kavo cuthuratha loo dimanayo, terminal illness layiratho waloguthitha shaqa, maadhama uu dimanayo, maadhama laga yava isbital fara bathan inu gelo oo karashk uu shirkathi bixineyso, tayatha ee macnuc ayu sherciga usub kadigeya. Kofkas xathi isago oo shaqeneya cuthurka kudaca ama isago cuthurki kava uu shaqathi dhalbatha, xathu cawotho oo xogisi iyo cawothi uu leyaxai shaqathi kukabto inan lagu mithib takori karin.\nDhatka curiyanka iney xaq kuleyixin ee kugursathan oo rer kusameystan. Waxa kalo oo sherciga usub uu dhathka curiyanka uu sineya in dhath kas mamulka dhowlatha ma shirkathaxa keib laga siya oo ka keib katan on ladixin 12\nlatartama dhathka lixtha lixath kava camal oo jegoyin gar caxan logudigayo iyaga ee iyaga buxiyan.\nWaxa kalo oo layiri dhathka curiyanka kas caxan cilmaxa curiyanka caa in fikrath derath aa lokava, oo mamul ama daqalo derath ee losameya oo loxela. Waxa kalo oo layiri dhathka curiyanka ama lixtha lixath keib kadiman oo maxabista aa, in lola dactha si wafaqsan sitha iyatha aa on laiska inda tiring curiyan nimatha kofka isaga caa.\nWaxa kalo sherciga usub uu leyaxai, wax barashatha dhathka curiyanka aa ama dhathka lixtha lixath diman in lasugaa oo lomujiya melaxa bathan oo dhathka shicibka logumamulo na sithi maxakamathaxa okale sitha taclinta, ee logutala gela si dhathka an carkeinin oo indaxa lexein iyo dhathka degolka aa uu kaga keib kathan kara mamulka isaga caa. Sitha dhathka degolka okale mithar ba wax logushega sign language wax ladexo wax ladexo aya laisticmala. Dhathka indolaxana wax caxris dhurma dhurma aye isticmalan oo layiratho Braille, intava in losuga oo mel walba oo wadhanka dhathka uu jogo logugeya oo wax logu bara oo wax kufaxman. Xafisathan laga isticmalan si iyaga na dhathka ee kakeibkatan ama mamulka dhowlatha ee kakeibkatan.\nWaxa kalo an daxney, dhathka lixtha lixath keib diman maadhama wadhanka mamul kisa iyo daqalaxa wadhanka iyo xolixi nadham geliki wadhanka ee kathib dacen, oo shercigi xorey use kaxathlin oo usan bath bathinin ama usan kacilalinin gacan bixthen, in dhathka iyaga aa loyesha nadham gar aa oo loguso garsiya dhathki kale oo kor loguso katha xouloxotho. Xuquqtha cathamaiga na wa iney qas caxan firisa dhathka lixthotha lixath keib diman oo cilalisa xuquq sitos ee uu cilalisa.\nWaxa kalo inyar ithin kashegeya xukuktha cilmaxa sherciga usub uu usameynayo. Sherciga usub uxu leyaxai cilmaxa in logu koriya oolagu cilaliya mel xasilon oo navath talo oo xath iyo cher rasas kor marin, oo xath iyo cher cabsi iyo divato ena kunolanin oo laga cilaliyo divatoyinka nocas.\nInti ana kacexein cothbixinta laxameynayo xuquqtha\ncilmaxa in lofiriyo sitha xuquqtha dhathki wein okale, xuquqtha cilmaxa waxa kalo on lenaxai marku sitheth iyo tovan chir cilmaxa garo in xaqu uleyaxai malinka sitheth iyo tovan kisa ee damato, in kipande lasiyo, in basbor lasiyo, in wax alal wixi sherci wadhanka loga baxan yaxai uu xaq kuleyaxai in lasiyo. Tas na wexey kuxirantaxai sithi an dexney mamulka dhowlatha shicibka xaloso doweyo xalokeno.\nWaxa kalo oo sherciga usub uu leyaxai, taclinta skulka xose oo primariga in dhowlatha ee katha oo wax alala wixi kuxisabsan taclinta primariga ee nokota xol dhowlatha ee sameyneso oo walith waxba laga baxnein. Melaxa kale oo wax barashatha dafsan taclinta xose na, sitha taclinta secondariga ama taclinta collegyatha ama tan jamacatha, dhowlatha na ee keib qathata, keibta kale na dhath weinaxa uu iska bixiya.\nCilmaxa xuquthetha cilalintetha waxa kamith caa, xoyathoth oo losiyo fasixi dalmatha oo loo ogolatha ila cunugas dorka biloth oo xora kofta ee cilmexetha nujiso oo lajogto. Cilmaxatha laso korsatho oo sitheth jirka kayar oo kof 13\nwadhani aa uu so korsatha in wadhani nima lasineya oo wadhani nimathetha loo ogol yaxai cilmaxas isaga aa marku sitheth iyo tovan chir garo. Cunuga wucu xaq kuleyaxai (End of Tape 1 Side A).\nWalithka iyo dhath weinaxa wadhanka ba waa xuquqtha cilmaxa iney cilaliyan oo cilmaxa dhafacan divatoyinka cilmaxa dib ukenan oo kadhafacan cilmaxa. Cunuga uxu xaq uu leyaxai in xafimath kufilan uu xela ama walithki xa awotho inu bixiyo ama yuu bixinin. Wuxu kalo cunuga xaq uu leyaxai inanan lagu kasbi karin inu ka keibkata ama dagesta dhin an dhintisa wafaqsanein ama labis an labis dhintisa wafaqsanein, isago oo xathi uu yar yaxai cunuga intusan isago isku filnasha fikrath usan garin wajibka uu walithki saran yaxai. Cunuga xathi utego skul oo labarayo dhinta galatha okale, in ee mabnuc taxai oo walithka maxakamatha uu tega uu skulka dhacwein kara xathi shercigan usub lafuro. Maxa yelei mela fara bathan oo waxa chiran cunug ama lava ee muslimin kayixin skulka odan, taa na ee kentei cilmixi in lagu kasba iney ka keibkatan ama bartan CRE madhama macalimin muslimin oo bareyso dhinta islamka ena chirin skulatha bathi, maxa yelei collegyathi musliminta lagu bari laxa va lama sameynin. Kuwi Arabta ee sameyse oo musliminta dhevetha kaimatey kasameyen in la sharciyei wadhanka inta bathan wei thithen xal mith oo kutala Mombasa aya dhagal iyo mar aath lorafathey lasherciyei. Mith Muranga kutala oo Musliminta disen ila xatha lama sherciyenin oo macalimin primariga baran oo muslimin caa ee kaso bixi laxayen, dhowlatha na shilin an kufadinin.\nMarka sas augeth, sherciga usub uxu mabnucaya cunuga xathi usan chirin kof bara dhinta islamka in uu bananka kachoga dhinta galatha oo la barayo, oo mabnuc taxai in cunuga lagu kasbo inu dhuruska fadiya ama uu kanisath intu gela uu dagesta waxan ee xeseyan oo dhinta galatha aa. Aniga lavatha sano oo igu xoreysey skulka secondariga xatha kanisatha kasab bei nagu exeth inantegno, dhathka intey xeseyan wan dhava tagnan chirney, malinkey an dhithney na wanagala fijiyei skulka, afar iyo tovan beri kathib markan so nokoney on sithi uu thithney, kathib umba layiratha musliminta intan fara geliyen oo nalo ogolathey inan bananqa chogno.\nSkula fara bathan ila manta musliminta ee kanisatha dax istagan ba chiran oo cunuga xathu thitho skulka laga fijinaya mel uu cathanyo na aney chirin. Shercigan xathi la meleyo cunugas marki lafijiyo tos bu maxakamath bu tegi, ama walithkisa maxakamatha tegi oo mabnuc bei nokon cunugas fikrath an dhintisa wafaq sanein inu dageisto. Waxa kalo oo kasab ca kuca dhowlatha, nadhamki international wixi nadham oo international oo cilmaxa kuseya oo ama international convention ama international treaty aa oo gocan aa oo cilmaxa lagu thaneynayo oo dhowlathan saxexthey iney fulisa oo meleysa. Wax yala fara bathan oo cilmaxa dhantotha katalineya oo wadhama fara bathan xeshis kagelen oo wadhan keni kalinka kuduftey waxva na usan kucamal faleinin ba chira. Shercigan usub malinka lasuga dhowlatha wexei kukasban taxai wax alala wixi ee saxexthey oo nadhamki cilmaxa kuxisabsan iney meleyso oo kucamal fasha.\nCarima fara bathan ayan kakorney oo kuxisabsan dhulka, dhulka wadhanka odan mitha ugu xorey, waxan daxnein kofka shisheya ajanaviga oo wadhan kale kayimatha, dul wadhanka kuma laxan karo. Inu kirestey keliya aya loo ogolyaxai kofka shisheyaxa oo mel kale kayimathey, dhulka keli waxa laxan kara ama dhowlatha ama shicibka wadhanka kunol oo wadhaniga aa.\nWax alala wixi dul oo Kenya kuyal sathax keiboth aya lokeiviye. Keib waye wa keibta dhowlatha ee lethaxai sitha National Parks, sitha forests meshi gethaxa lagu cilalinayo iyo mamulka dulka mamulka dhowlatha uu kuyala xafisyatha dhowlatha ee kuyalan. Dulkas waxa iskale dhowlatha, waxa kale oo dulka lavath aa, dul uu shaqsi leyaxai oo magac shaqsi kukoran. Keibta sathaxath wa dulka ladixi chirey trust land, sithi dulkena govolkan okale oo County Councilka uu xilsarey shicib ladexeye, wax alala wixi dulkas caxa, County Councilka walaga kathey shicibkas meshas dhegan aya gacanta logeliyei. Sithu dhathka mesha thegan thono ayu dulka kumamulan, wayo County Councilka dulka uxu uu isticmaley sithi shaqsi dulka iskale, ninku thono na siyo, ninku thono na kagatho kofna an kala tashanin. Kofka marki amana uu xayo kofki amanatha uxaye uu latashatha aya lathoneya, tas na mei dacin madhama awothi lasiyei Councilka usan kaso bixin, wax alala wixi dul oo trust land caxa, sherciga malinki lasuga ee kabilawata waxa kagacanta logelini dhathka mesha thegan iyaga sithey thonan ustic maleyan.\nWax alala wixi dul oo private aa oo shaqsi uu leyaxai oo shaqsi magacisa kukoran, oo sisugan uu kofka kuxeley oo nadhamsan oo sherciga wadhanka wafaqsan, shercigan uu cilalini una bath bathini, kofka siaga na aa malkisa lama faragleiyo. Xase yeshei, shaqsigi dul bobey oo dulka uu xasto bob kuxelei baritanka uu bilavo thono guthi loxilsarey carimaxa dulka wadhanka odan inu xaliya aya baritan kusameyni xathu gocamiyo dulka ina bob lagu xelei dhowlatha la waregeysa dulka ama tovan sano xorey xel ama afartan sano xel, waxti aath xeshey kuma xirna. Xathi dulkas casalkath kuxeshey aath kuxeshei uu xalath caxa, shercigan marku xel gero dulka dhowlatha ayei kala waregeisa wa dhowlatha marka sithey dhonto ugu cistimaleysa dhathkethi iyo munafakatha dhathka ee ugu tala geshey. Dulka waxaweye wax alala wixi dul aa oo la xayo oo dhowlatha lethaxai oo public land aa waxa gacanta loo gelinaya shirkath land Commission aa, guthi uu xilsaran dulka oo mathax banan, mamulka dulka manta wadhanka waxa xaya xal kof aa Commissioner of Lands layiraxo, keibta inta wadhanka odan uu bixin kara inta anan kacexen keivasha kuyalan xebta, batha gevigetha melaxa kuyalan mabixin karo Commissioner of land inu camar kaxelo mathax weinaxa moogiye. Iyago na dulkas bathi mathax weinaxa bixiyei, mathax weinixi na mar uxu uusiyei dhathki ama iyatho si xalath lola taliyei ama sithu ugutala gelei va, dhath racsan ama saxibyal kisa ama ma saxibyalkis kuxiran. Ninka mathax weinaxa sacib lacexen ama dhath kuxiran isago an saxib lacexen, uxu mesha kaxelayo male marka, dulkas odan guthigan loo xilsarayo waxa weye iney kagurto cawotha dulka kuxisabsan oo xal kof uu gocaminayo oo ugurta guthi cithil oo loo xilsarey wayo tothova kof lagamayavo iney xalath isku racan, totova kof oo tothova govol kakala imathen sithey xalathka uu racan wei cathagtaxai, xase yeshe shaqsi iska sogtho Commissioner of Lands waxa magacava oo shaqa udibta wa mathax weinaxa, wax alala wixi mathax weinaxa dexa umbu fulini taa na wexei 15\nnokote dulki dhath awoth lexen an xor soconin iney waxva ena kulexen wadhanka.\nSas augeth dhulka marka gacanta loo geliyo guthigas waxa lafilaya wax alala wixi mamul oo dulka loo isticmalo inu noktho wax thath weinaxa amfacaya, waxa kalo on daxnein ugu thambeynti mutha lava sano an dafsanen malinku sharcigan usub xirgela barlamanka inu sherciyeya oo usuga carima farabathan oo kuxisabsan mamulka dulka. W axa kamith aa inu soroga anshur lagu ganaxa dulka an la isticmaleinin, shaqsigi dul iskale, ta wexey kuseysa dulka wax so sarka bathan oo maraktey rashin wadhanka lagu beri laxa ama wax wadhanka odan camfaca lagu beri laxa oo laistac maleynin oo iska yala.\nDulkas waa in lacanshura oo wadhanka ee anshur kaso gesha wayo nin iskale waxath carki intaso kun oo ekar oo iska makan oo tovan sano waxva an lagu berin oo gethath kabaxen dhur iska nokthey. Dulkas sanath walba in lacanshura weye ila kofki ama dulka uu kasi dhayo ama uu kakireya ama uu kaisticmala.\nWaxa kale oo lakava barlamanka inu si daxso bathan uu sharciyeya nadhamkasto dulka katala govolka xebta, govolka Rift Valley iyo govolka North Eastern. Mela fara bathan oo dhoth tala aa chirta waxa kamith aa xabkan Garissa iyo Isiolo waxa kamith aa xathka Tana River iyo North Eastern oo three miles wax layiratha uu kuchira taa na recommendationkain uxu caxa in woviga uu xath cunogtho North Eastern iyo xebta, xase yeshe sherciyentethi kothob barlaman kaso fula mutha lava sano an dafsanein iney sukto weye barlamanka. Sherciga marka muxu bixineya amar uu barlaman carintas uu kufuliya maxa yelei mela fara bathan ayei dhoth katala, shercigan na mel kasta mashegi karo laakin melaxa ee dhegantaxai odan barlamanka ayan lenaxai mesha iyo mesha xaxaliyen shercigetha na muthathas xakuxaliyen.\nMutha mathax banan oo iska furan oo sithu thono uuthaxin kara macaxa, dulka iyo\nmamulka iyo munafacatha dulka wadhanka kaso geleysa in loo geibiyo wadhanka odan si adhalatha oo siman oo melaxa kar na keib bathan ena xelin melaxa na keib lacan loga tega iyago waxva xeisanin. Mamulka dulka Lands registration wax layiratho ama Land transfers in qimixisa xos loso ritha xatha matna qimaxa lagu sharci aath bu uu fara bathan yaxai, marka tas waxalathoneya in lasoceliyo oo layareya mamulka xafiska dulka laga mamulo na loo doweya shicibka oo ila divisionka lokena.\nCarimaxas aya kamith caa carimaxa kuxisabsan dulka on an daxnein sherciga usub xameleya ama an kusugnei sherciga usub xameleya ama an kusugney sherciga usub bilka meshan yala. Waxa kale oo sherciga usub uu sameyei barlamanka manta choga wa xal guri, sherciga usub waxan daxnein guri lavath xala sameyo oo loyakano National Council. Guriga xatha yalo National Assembliga wa xal guri aa xornimo markan wadhanka uu xeley, lava guri bu caxa barlamanka, National Assembligan iyo Senateka. Senateki oo nadham kale aa ayan daxney xala sameyo oo National Council loyakano oo kakovan boqol kof, boqolka rux sothon kof oo dhathka kamith aa wa dhumar oo lagaso thorto govolatha.\nGovol walba afar kof oo dhumar aa ayu sothorani, Nairobi na wexey sothorani lava kof, totova kof min afar aa wa sitheth iyo lavatan iyo lavatha Nairobi aa. Sothonkas kof oo dhumarka aa waxa lagaso thorani govolatha. Sithi govolkan North Eastern afar kof ayu sothoran marka madhama govolka afar district uu yaxai waxan uu uxureini district walba inu kof so thorto.\nWaxa kale, totovatanka rux okale waxa lagasothoraney lixthan iyo sagal district iyo Nairobi. Wadhanka xatha uxu kakovan yaxai Nairobi iyo lixthan iyo sagal okale, totovatanka kof waxa lagaso thorani lixthan iyo sagalka district iyo Nairobi. Iyaga na kof walba xal kof aya district lagaso thoran. Barlamanka xose sithan shegney uxu kakovan yaxai dhath constituency lagasothortey iyo dhath sagashan oo xisbiyalka xathatha kura oo lorithey oo loguso thortey. Sagalki kof sithan shegei wexey isku theyeyan iney sinto dhathki constituenciga lagasothoranaye on usineien wadhanka odan. Gurigan kale oo National Councilka aa wadhanka odan uu usimanyaxai maxa yelei govol walba afar nagoth buleyaxai inta Nairobi kaexen disrict walba xal kof oo lagaso thortey tothovatanka kale marka district walba oo North Eastern kuyala mathalana ma Turkana wexey lasimanyixin districtyasha kale odan.\nXathi barlamanka xose lagukala bata, barlamanka logumakala bathan karo. Xal district oo ila tovan constituency le ba chira wadhankan, anaga na kii ugubathan cafar constituency bu kaba. Marka maadhama constituenciga an lo simnein gurigan lavath walosiman yaxai. Gurigan lavatha shaqathisa maxa waye, waye? Gurigan lavath lava shei qas caxan aya lagutala gelei inu kabto, mith waye ee wax alala wixi sherciga kuso fula guriga xose National Assembliga wixi sherci oo kaso fula inu meleya oo uu firiya dhib uu bara oo ukuraca ama uu kuthitha. Maxa yelei waxtiga xathirka aa sherciga la sameyei barlamanka uu sameyei sherciya kar oo nolosha wadhanka bethelath aath uu farabathan kukeni karta oo waxa dacen lagu sameye ama lagu dameyei mutha nusu saa kayar.\nMarka kothobka barlamanka lashegeyo caxriska xorey marka xorey lacaxriyo lagama thothayo. Caxriska lavath marka lavath oo barlmanka lagathothayo, caxriska lavatha marka lavath oo barlamanka laga caxrinayo reportka oo sherciga lagu betheleya ama sherciga usub oo lasameneya waxa lathoneya in lagathotho. Marka caxriska lavath uu kagubno mar sathaxath aya xathan lagathothi. Intiva waxa lagumarineya nusu sas, mathaxweina saxexisa nusu sax ba lagudufan, si carimaxa logaguthba oo sherci bethelka waxan ama sherci sameinta wax alala wixi sherci lasameneyo wadhanka dhath weinaxa na uu kaga keib kata waxan daxnein, caxriska ugu xore oo bilka lacaxrinayo iyo marka lavath oo dhoth lagathothayo iyo marka lavath oo lagathothi thono iney mutha sathax biloth ee uu daxeysa.\nSathaxtha biloth in reportki lagu thavaco jaraitka oo dhathweinaxa laogeysiyo oo dhath weinaxa uu ogatho waxa sosoctho. Sherciga lasamain ravo, xatha wax yala aath uu fara bathan sherciga wadhanka uu yala uxu shicibka kuogein nadhamka lagu sameneyao ama lagu bethelayo aya nadham karson aa oo lathetheciya. Sherciga usub waxan lenaxai sathax biloth iney uu daxeyso waye lavatha xigmoth, si dhathki uu kocogatha waxa dicixayo iyo wax kasoctho 17\noo sherciga kuxisabsan.\nCarinta lavath oo guriga lavath ugutala gelnein inu fuliyo waxa weye xathi mathax weinaxa tilava laga kathayo oo shaqatha lagajojin ravo, sherciga manta wadhanka uu yalo lagama jojin karo shaqatha mathax weinaxa wei athagtaxai. Shercigan usub lee dhowth ba lagukathi kara mathax weinaxa impeachment wax layiratha, dhowtha isaga wa guriga xosey ayu kaso fuli kara ama guriga kore ayu kaso fuli kara lavatha guri mithku thono. Xatha mithku safulo moogiyei kan kale inu kuraco weye kicukaso fulei xorta, marta tas wexey kacilalineysa barlamanka kuraca mathax weinaxa iney shaqatha kajojiyan iyago kuxeshiyei oo isticmaleya cathatha MP yasha barlamanka ama kasari waye mathax weina shawatha lagasari waye inkasto oo xalath uu gelei laga sari waye in mathax weinaxa xisbigisa uu barlamanka gubathan yaxai augeth. Lavatha waxa loga guthbi kara gurigan lavath oo xisbi kasoconin xisbina kutirsanen, oo shaqsi loo thorto district kasoctho ama kasoctho govolatha oo thumarka aa, lavatha shei ayan ugutala gelney inu fuliya xoshas guriga lavath oo barlamanka.\nWaxa kale oo shercig usub an sameyne oo bethelath wein caa, cafiska maxakamathaxa, keibta maxakamathaxa dhoth aath uu farabathan aya kacimatey kole intina bathan wath lasocoten wakilya maxakamtha tegen oo guthiga dhacweyen iyako oo kasheganeya xaulaxan kaso fulaye guthigan sherci bethelka iney noloshotha daxileysa oo noloshotha divato uukeneysa oo isku theyen xatha nadhamki koralki shercigan an koreyne in lajojiya. Marka xoshi iyatha exeth ee fuli waisey oo socon waisey, xakim yathi naftotha aya maxakamatha tegen, lava xakim oo mith kasoctha maxakamatha sare iyo mith kasoctha maxakamatha appealka wa maxakamatha sare xatha maxakamath kasikoreysa oo xatha wadhanka ugu dhambeysa, lava Judge oo kakala soctha aya maxakamatha tegen iyago oo guthigan nadhamka Commissionka sherciga betheleya kucambar yeineya inu daxiley carimoxothi oo noloshothi wax uu dimaya.\nDacwathothi wexey kusal lexeth recommendations and soo chethiney uu kamith yaxai ninka xakimka aa xorta recommendationka uxu kusal laxa carimaxa aath uu fara bathan oo kasofuley dhath weinaxa. Marka ee kuthothen maxakamathaxa ama xakim yatha in anaga an dhagal gar aa an kuxaino maxakamathaxa ee shegten waxan soo dhavacnein fikrathixi ama carimixi kuxisabsana maxakamathaxa keli oo kaso baxey dhath weinaxa wadhanka. Carin walba mesha lagashegey, kofka kuxathlei magacisa iyo inta cher oo lashegey carinta iyatha ee iyo inta constituency oo loga xathley, wexey nokthen kun iyo sitheth bokol oo xanshi carimixi maxakamatha keli kuxisabsana. Box file aath uwein intaso leeg bu nokthey, lava box file, markas maxakamathaxa waxa loo carkey maxakamathaxa iney nokthen mel laisku lalusho oo ninki laagle un xathalath uu xela.\nXathalathi wadhanka aya ciib nokotey marka, xathanan laag kavin xathalath maxeleysith. Tii iyatha exeth waxa kentey maxakamthaxa bethelath wein anago oo othka dhathka wafakeyna inan dexno xalagu keno maxakamathixi nadhamkothi mitha ugu xoreyso xakimyatha iney kaga baxan shaqatha lixthan iyo shan sano markey garan. 18\nWaxtigan xathirka aa wexey kababaxeyan shaqatha tothovatan iyo afar.\nKothobka keliya Judgeska wadhanka\nchogan nuskotha ayei kuthegeyan asanathka keliya tovanka sano oo laso nuskaviyei nuskotha ayei kutegeyan wei baxeyan. Siva kavan kucaa, waxa kale oo kothobka lavath an daxney, kof alala kofki aan xata dhacthas garin oo thoneya inu karuqesto shaqatha, in lasiyo shan sano on usa shaqeinin musahr kisa. Misharketha maxa pensionketha, shan sano unsan shaqeynin ina pensionketha lasiya oo ugu baxa shaqatha retire kaqata.\nTas ugu tala geley inan usojithno dhathkani iney ruqsa iyaga oo ee weithisten ee kaga baxan. Laakin fursathas waa iney kaga facithan bil daxthetha malinka shercigan lasuga sothon beri daxthetha iney kaga facithan oo fursathas ee kuciisticmalan. Xakimyathi anan kucistimaclin fursathas sothonki malmoth oo sothonki malmoth ee damata wa iney lava keivoth ee nokthan xathana, kofkan lixthan iyo shan sano garin, fursathi an shegney na anan kafacithin lava keivoth ba lokala goin, keib wa dhathka wax dhacwo oo kacimathey ena chirin, intaso shirkathoth oo dhacwoyinka maxakamthaxa lakeno aya chiran inkasto awoth ee wax kaga kabtan ena kavin ena kavin waxtiga xathirka aa.\nXaulaxas odan oo dhacwoyinka carurinaye maxkamatha xakimki wax dhoth oo kafaxma ena chirin waxa loo ogolani shaqathisi inu siwata marku uu saxexa wax loyakano Leadership code of Conduct, nadham laga ravo nin alala ninki mas’uliyath katheya inu saxexa. Iyaga keli maxa, nin alala ninki mas’uliyath katheya ama xalo thorto ama xalo magacavo, iney saxexan kothobyo logutala geley in lagu cilaliya kofkas wajibki mas’ulki dhath weinaxa wadha oo laga cilaliya inu dhathki ama kala checlatha ama mith takor kusameya laga cilaliya lalush wax yala fara bathan laga cilalinaya.\nKothobyatha kothobka ugu xorey waxa weye kofka marku mas’uliyath katho wax alala wixi mal uu leyaxai inu shaca kakatho. Wax alala wixi mal uu leyaxai ama guri xacaxatho ama dul xacaxatho ama ber xacaxatho ama laag xacaxatho inu shaca kaqatho ama magicisa kukornatho ama magacilmixisa sitheth iyo tovan chir an garin xa kukornatho ama magaca xaskisa xakukornatho inu shaca kaqatho aya kothobka ugu xore caa.\nMarka kofki xakim aa on dhawonyika waxba an kaso carorin, mar ala marku saxexa reportkas leadership codekas shaqathisi ayu wadhanaya, waxa cimathey kofki xakim caa oo dhacwa katala melaxa laga dhacweyo xakim yatha, kofka isaga aa baritan aya lagu samein waxa na baritan kusamein tribunal, guthi loo bagacavey baritankas oo ka kovan dhath wax divata ee ama musuq masaq nimo ama sificath aa oo lagushegey xatha kaxor ena chirin oo qima lee oo magac kale wadhanka. Dhathkas aya baritan kusamein iyago dhava geleya dhothi laga keney ninka isaga ama kofta iyatha aa, xathi lagu xelo na shaqatha na walaga jojini wana laxiri maadhama fursatha ugu xorey iney exeth inu is casilo oo laagta uu kato usan yelin oo mutha lasiyei, isaago oog iney dhacwa katala, kof alala kofki dhacwa katala na waloshegi inta kaxor, dhacwa katala guthigas ee latala, carintas ee kuxisabsantaxai.\nKofki xamizamo xathu is ogyaxai inu dhothi karo oo waxva kayalin oo ben taxai, dhothisa baritankas thiyar 19\nxacucaxatho xathan lagu xelin leadership codeki bu saxexi shaqathi buu wathani, xathi lagu xelo na shaqatha na walagatiri wana la xiri. Maxamkiyathi iney caath uga xumathen, maxakamtha ee tegen guthigi bei dacweyen, mar markan report kaina dameyne oo shercigi an korney waxan kuwarechiney barlamanka maathama shaqathan ee barlamanka uuno divey. Barlamanka na mar marku carinta xelei, cuxu yiri xatha kabilavato, guthigan barlamanka aya uu thirsathey shaqa cathegi na uu sodameyei, cith se dhoth kaqabta barlamanka mahakamatha xageiso.\nBarlamanka na wa meshi sherciga kasofulaye, marka waxa weye maaqul maxa in barlamanka maxakamath lagein kara laakin xoshini meshas ee kucegtaxai camal aya weye. Waxa maxakamathaxa raagsan keibta xafiska Kadhiga, xafiska Kadhiga uxu kucimathey oo kolka xorey ba ukuimathey nadham laga xeshiyei oo kaxeshiyen bokorki Zanzibar iyo raizal wizaraxa Kenya oo marka Kenyatta caxa, lixthan iyo sathaxthi. Xeshiskas uxu caxa in xafiska Kadhiga lothayo mamulkisa uu wadhanka laga isticmala, sathax kothob bucaxa.\nKothobka lavath waxa weye malki Musliminta lethaxai in lacilaliyo oo waqf loyaqano, waqaf wa wax alala wixi musliminta ee lethaxai oo dhin caxan musliminta kulethaxai, dismoyin fara bathan iyo dul fara bathan oo waqaf oo musliminta lethaxai bachira oo xebta kuyalin inta bathan. Dulka isaga caxa waxa weye in laga cilaliya oo laga cilaliya in labova oo shicibka musliminta wadhanka kunol uu leyaxai dhulka isaga aa ama malka isaga aa.\nKothobka lixath uxu caxa in melaxa musliminta ee lethaxai oo wax laisku bara lothaya musliminta. Sathaxtha kothob mithi waqaf aa oo musliminta mal kothi wei cilalisey dhowlatha laakin waxa mathax loga digey chairman loga digey DC uu distriga oo malka uu yalo. Isbethelka aan dexney xalagukeno ta waxa weye mamulki in laga katha shaqalaxa dhowlatha oo gacanta logeliya culumatha musliminta oo dhecmatha choga.\nMithi melixi musliminta ee wax kubaran chiren intotha bathan dhowlatha lawaregtey, waxa kamith aa Mombasa Polytechnic, intaso sano ee musliminta jamacatho weithisaneysa wadhanka lagadiso oo dhath muslimin aa oo wadhama kale kaimetey dhiyar ucaxein in malgelin kusameyan lamayelin, collegeyatha musliminta losidsey oo in lagu taba bara logutafgeley xal collegca aya mar divata ka dacthey oo laisku rafathey loo ogolathey oo xatha macaliminta lagu tava bara Mombasa kutala inti kale na loma ogolanin.\nMarka waxan lenaxai marka kii Kadhiga waa lo ogolathey xase yeshey shercigan xatha yala wuxu leyaxai ugu yaran afar Kadhi inu wadhanka laxatha. Keibta ugu bathan dhowlatha ee kuxirantaxai laakin afar Kadhi in ugu yar iney wadhanka kashaqeiso aya shercigan manta yala aa. Lixthan iyo sathaxthi ila manta Kadhi yasha wexei kor ugu kacen afar kabilavata manta wexey yixin laviyo tovan keliya, afartan sano sitheth Kadhi keliya aya kutharsantey.\nMarka waxa weyey tovanki sano ba lava Kadhi aya lagu tharaye mathalan, shercigan usub waxan daxney mitha ugu xorey, Kadhiyasha wadhanka kashaqeya iney nokthan ugu yaran sothon Kadhi oo dhowlatha wax kayar sothon ena 20\nkori karin, xathey dhonto boqol xakorto laakin sothon kama yaren karo. Mitha lavath waxan daxney Kadhiga in loqimeya sitha shaqala kale oo maxakamathaxa oo mamuleya sherciga wadhanka. Manta xathi aath divatin intina bathan oo gara neya xafisyatha Kadhiga oo wadhanka kuyalan, xafiska Kadhiga waxath motha xafis nin karani uu leyaxai oo babac aa oo googol yalin, kuras mayalin, Kadhigas oo rafathsan oo lugeyneya ayu imaneya, Kadhigi manta shaqa lakoro na, konton iyo shan sano uxu kaga retiregareni isago Kadhi aa mel uu ugaso guthbo malaxa. Kadhinimo mel lodafa malaxa, Kadhi marku noktho Kadhinimo ayu shaqatha kaga bixi xathana, niki kale oo xakimka aa oo magistrateka maxakamatha chogey babur dhowlatha lethaxai aya lagu keneya, derewal shaqala dhowlath aya wadhaa, xafiskisi ila dor iyo qonton kof aya kashaqein, guri dhowlatha ayu dhegan yaxai waa shaqala dhowlath oo muqtha oo lagathambeya oo dhowlatha gacan sineysa.\nMitha ugu xorey waxan dexney marka lavatha xakim lavatha ba wa xakimya wa in lasimo xorta. Ninka marka Kadhiga xafiskisa waxan daxnein sathax keivoth xaka kobnatho, keib distriga chogto, keibta provinkas oo saldiga govolka iyo keib appeal court aa oo Nairobi yala maxakamatha. Kofka choga distriga oo district Kadhi aa inu noktha kof lamith aa oo latheraja oo lamushar aa oo laqima caa, district magistrateka choga oo distriga oo mamuleya. Xathu kan xal babur leyaxai, xal babur bulaxani, xathu guri leyaxai guri bu laxani, xafiskisa shaqala bu laxani,xafis nadhamta lee oo telephone, fax, iyo computer yala ayu nokoni inu la qima noqtho ninka kale oo carimaxa fulinaye maxakamatha.\nWaxa lagasi guthbeya district Kadhiga jegatha kuxigta on daxnei xalasameyo waxa weye Senior Kadhi.\nKadhiga waa inu fadiya govolka, oo uu lathereja caxatha ninka jegatha loyakano Chief Magistratetka xaya. Chief Magistrate wa jega maxakamathaxa kale kawein, High Court Judgeka na kaxoseya, oo mathax kaca wax alala wixi magistrate kale odan. Senior Kadhi ladharaja inu noktho kofka isaga aa.\nWaxan kalo dexney, Kadhis Court of Appeal oo Nairobi kuyala waa inu fadiya Chief Kadhiga iyo lava Senior Kadhi oo kuwa la daraja aa kuwa govolatha xukumaya. Sathaxtha kof aya maxakamatha sare oo musliminta fadineya oo Nairobi aa, wax alala wixi uu gocamin waya district Kadhiga waxa loo guthbin appealka ugu xorey waxa waye provinceka, saldiga govolka. Wixi lagu gocamin waya mesha na appeal lavath waxa weye Kadhis Court of Appeal oo Nairobi kuyala, wixi dafsan wax alala wixi carin ca oo dhinti ama mamul kucisabsan inu gocamiyo weye maxakamathas oo appeal courtka ena dafin. Wixi dafa wa wax tafsirka sharciga lukathisa kuxisabsan, is afgaran waa kuxisabsan kerimoyinka sherciga loo isticmaley keliya aya dafeysa Kadhis Court of Appealka.\nTas na waxan daxney xategtho wayo maxakamatha kale Court of Appealka xathiga wuxu lathereja yaxai appeal courtka kale. Marka waa inu kaguthba oo Supreme Court, court sare maxakamath sare on xatha wadhanka yalin on daxney xalasameyo aya loo guthbineya carimixi kuxisabsan tafsirka ama fasirka sherciga oo musliminta ama isku xilafan ama musliminta iyo dhath kale ee isku kabsathan. Wax alala wixi mamul muslin aa oo kuxisabsan gur, furnin, 21\ndaxal iyo keib kale on kutharney oo keibta becsharatha civil and commercial cases, in uu damein kara maxakamathaxa Kadhiga ila appeal kotha kore.\nWaxan kalo an dexney mesha shaqalaxa maxakamathaxa laga koro oo loyakano Judicial Service Commission xatha, shercigan manta yala kof muslim caa oo fadiya meshas malaxa, sas augeth na musliminta maxakamathaxa kashaqeinaye dhath aath uyar bei nokthen marka Judicial Service Commission waxan daxney xalagu tharo xala balariyo xorta dhath kethi, xanala gutharo dhath fara bathan oo ee kamith yixin afar kof oo wakila exen on loyaro exen on sherciga garaneynin xatha oo wax barasha kale kutharsatey. Waxa kalon daxnein xalagu kordiyo Chief Kadhiga, inu fadiyo Judicial Service Commission, waxa kalo an daxney oo musliminta kasocthan xalagu tharo guthigas shaqalaxa maxakamthaxa koraya, kof dhumar caa oo muslim caa oo sherciga muslinka garaneyso oo magacaven shirkathaxa muslimka wadhanka chogan sithii Supreme Council iyo xayathaxa kale oo musliminta wadhanka kufiragsan. Kof ee magacaven inu faristo meshas oo guthiga uu katirsanatho, si lavatha kof, kofta dhumarka caa iyo Chief Kadhiga ee kumeleyan nadhamki musliminta maxakamathaxa shaqalaxa iyaga kathan laxayen.\nWaxa kalo on daxney xafis walba oo Kadhi uu leyaxai oo wadhanka kutala oo district ama govolka ama maxakamath sare in kof dhumar aa oo muslim aa oo sherciga muslinka garaneya oo mamulaca administrator laga xela. Wayo sithath uu cogtixin, dinta muslinka uma ogola dhumar iney Kadhi nokoto ama Kadhi kuxigen nokoto ama nadham Kadhi ee ka keib kathato, xase yeshei dhowthi dhumarka musliminta kaso fuley aya uxu caxa intotha bathan ineyna uthan shegan karin nin raga oo carima fara bathan oo gogosha ama kuxeisto ama daxili gurigetha kuxeisto ena uga warami karin ona kafaloyin karin nin xortisa. Dinta muslinka na we fareysa xishothkas iyo carima nocas aa, sas augeth kof dhumar caa oo administrator aa in laga xela xafis walba oo Kadhi caa, oo koftas kofti dhumar aa on dhoneynin iney Kadhiga tos ulaxathasha uwaranto koftan dhumarka caa, oo wixi Kadhiga xortega unoctha koral ee soo dhavacthey kofti mamusha exeth oo jogtey mesha.\nIntas ayan daxney xalo sameyo xafiski Kadhiga ama\nmaxakamathi Kadhiga xalagu balariyo.\nGuthiya fara bathan oo mathax banan ayu shercigan cusub yiri xala sameyo oo kevab fara bathan kathanaya waxa kamitha guthiga xuquqtha cathamiga iyo mamulka cathalatha on lenaxai xaqa kobnatho dor xibnoth, xibin dhumarka kuseya, xibin kuseya kof xafis dafaca dhath weinaxa oo dhowtha dhatweinaxa kuxisabsan shaqalaxa dhowlatha. Xathi xafis dhowlath intath tegtith sithat rabto lagu mamuli waya ama lalush lagu weithisto waa inath tegi karta xafiskas oo dhacwatha aath gein karta.\nXafis kas xuquqtha cathamiga iyo mamulka cathalatha kuxisabsan waxan daxney waa in lakena marku caath uu fogyaxai district headquater walba uu yala. Saldigisa inu district caxatha xathu kasifirari kara na maxtu waxtiga uu fasaxa uu maraktey mel kaxoseysa lasigeya. Xase yeshe kasab ee kutaxai in uguyaran district utega. Waxa kalo on 22\ndaxney xala sameyo guthiyo fara bathan uu kamith yaxai guthiga lathagalaya laluushka iyo xainimatha shaqalaxa dhowlatha kaso fuleya.\nWaxan kalon daxney xalasameyo, xafis mathax banan oo dhathka ladhacweyo on cawothin inu lawyar kabsatha cuthotha ama lawyar siya oo dhowlatha karash gareyneso. Cafisyatha faraxa bathan masi dax gelayi xase yeshe waxan kali on shegeya in carimaxas guthiyaxa mathax banan guthi walba an daxney yusan kabath nanin sagal kof, guthiyatha kar waxan dexney shan kof keli xanokthan, kuwa kar sagal xanokthan, si aina guthigan usan kunokon guthi mamulka dhowlatha dhathka xeista ee dhathkothi ama dhathka ee kuraxa karavan ee na uga buxinin oo dor iyo lavatan kof dor iyo sothon kof an malka dhowlatha anan lagu qasarinin. Sas augeth, guthi walba waxan dexney guthi sagal kof kabathan kara machiro laakin uu kayaran kara, guthigi walba xaudaxeyo sathax kof ila sagal kof.\nWaxa kale on wax yar kashegi rava, shercigan mise intanan daxgelin keibta sherciga bethelathka dhambe on fuli dhonno oo waxa sherciga laga betheli karo ama laga betheli karin waxan wax yar ithinka shegeya keibta rasilmalka dhowlatha, waxan daxney waa in loo isticmala si cathalath caa oo dhathka wadhanka odan usiman oina nokonin keib melaxa kar na loga fadhiyo xaqothi melaxa kar na sitha govolkan okale na anan shib laga digin sithisi loo thainin. Wax alala wixi guthigi ama kavilki ama shaqsigi wadhanka kuno, ayu noc caxatho ama ayu govol xakunolath,o wa inu lamujiya ama latusa in lakimeynayo oina isu carkin dhathka kar inanan laravin ona waxva losameynenin oo kavil walba oo wadhanka kunol isku si in lokimeya.\nWaxa kale on dhoneya intanan kava gaveynin, dhowrashatha mathax weinaxa iyo mathax kuxigenka waxan daxnein waa in loo thorta tos oo shicibka uu thorta, oina nokonin dhath constituenciga kasogtha, wayo kofko xai mas’uliyathi wadhanka odan uxu sameyneya lava divato keneya, taso kuxiran mith kothobka lavath on waziratha an kashegi thono oo caa ama dhathki sothortey bana carkeynin ninki mathax weinaxa aath sothorten sithey kucarkan wei cathagtaxai, marka cathey tas dactho na dhathki soo thortey kasaru dhoga ilen kof udhodheya oo barlamanka udaxchoga malaxa. Keibta dibka lavath oo imani kara waxa weye in kofkas lagaso thortey contituenciga rasilmalki wadhanka odan uu dhathkisa kelin geye, tas xasara wexey kutaxai dhathweinixi wadhanka okale lavatha divatatha sitha loga guthbaye waxa waye, mathax weinaxa iyo mathax kuxigenka iney ba nokonin dhath laso thorto oo contituenciga lagasothorto, see enokthan dhath contituencigotha uu yaxai wadhanka odan.\nMitha lavath mathaxweinaxa inu magacavo mathax weine kuxigenka uu lasoconayo dhoroshatha intane dicing cortet oo lavathotha laiskula thorto iyago isla sogthan oo kalachiran. Oina nokonin mathax weine kuxigenki jego dhathka lagu xor raliya oo layiratho athan kuthoran ama kavilkan an sini, oo kavil walba layiratho athiga kura isi athiga na kofki mathax weine kuxigenki uu kumacavi, marku damatho na dhoroshathi na kofki thono ayu mathax weinaxa uu makacavi ama xathu uu thono ma magacaveyo mathax weine kuxigenki, sitha waxtiga xathirka okale.\ndivatoyin aath uu uwein bei wadhanka uu keneysa maxa yelei manta, xathey tii Rabbi dacntho oo mathaxweinaxa wax 23\nkabsatho, waziratha isku lain mathaweinaxa kofki kathan laxa, oo sherciga uxu leyaxai mathax weina kuxigenka aya kathanaya sagashan malmoth Kadhib dhowrasha lageleya. Xathu mathaxweine kuxigen chirin, sherciga uxu leyaxai waziryaxa wazir ee magacavan aya sagashan malmoth kursiga xaineya, waziryatha manta chogan kumaxeshineyan jagatha iyatha exeth, marka xatar weye wadhanka inu mathax weine kunoctho ayu waxti ee nokoto ba.\nSas augeth, ayanu lenaxai mathax weinaxa iyo mathax weine kuxigenka waa in laisla dhorta oo isla sogthan oo marka mathaxweinaxa dhoraneyso aath firiso mathax weina kuxigenkale, ninka beri kathan laxa kursiga sithey buu uyala ma kof jegatha ukalma mise wa kof nocmaa.\nWaxa kale oo taa lasocota on daxney waziryatha iyo wazira kuxigenka ba wa iney na barlamanka kaso bixin oo nokthan dhath divetha barlamanka lagasomagacava, waa iney nokthan dhath constituency an lagaso thoranin. Kofka MP nimatha loo thorta shercigan usub uxu leyaxai MP nimathisi dhathkisi xacucathego, xacukeibsanatho barlamanka iyo xafiski constitueciga losameya oo lodisa wayo kofka xathu wazir yaxai, wadhanka odan bu wazir uyaxai, constituenciga inu gar unoktha we kucathag taxai, kofkisi so thortey oo meshi ugu tegayo xathi ugu tega mesha, uxu leyaxai xata fursath uu kucarko maxeli karo, security ba thurka kor kujojineysa wayo wa nin mathaxtha dhowlatha aa. Mathaxthi dhathki soo thortey maxa, caragtithi sas bei uu cathagtaxai, mitha lavath waxa weye, xathi lacarko na oo kofki uu iman karo meshi na, mamulki iyo rasilmalki wadhanka odan constituencigisa keli ayu gelin kara si dhowrasha xath iyo cher uu kuxelo. Lavatha ba marna qasara ayei dhathka kutaxai xathi dhathkisi usan carki karin marna qasara wexey utaxai dhath weinixi wadhanka. Lavatha ba divatoyinka sithi loga guthbi laxa ayan kataliney marki an carinta soo chedhiney. (End of Tape 1).\nMarka waxan daxney waziratha iyo wazir kuxigenka waa in lomagacava dhath wax garath aa oo barlamanka kuchirin oo bananka kachoga barlamanka oo barlamanka farisan karan laakin xathey daxfaristan barlamanka ona coth lexein keliya ee uu farisaneyan dhotha MP yatha ee sochethineyan oo kuxisabsan wizaratha kofki uu mathax uu yaxai marka iyatha ee.\nWaxa kale on daxney waziratha in ee kabathanin shan iyo tova wazir, waxtigan xatha chogno waziratha wa ila sitheth iyo lavatan wazir, mar layiri guthiga koxtha bixisa camaxtha, World Bank iyo IMF ta waxa dhowlatha lagu kasbey wizaroyinki iney nuskamisa oo sitheth iyo tovanka bathanin. Mathax weinixi wuxu yelei wizratha uu nuskamiyei laakin xathathi wizarathi waa intothi, xal wizarath oo sathax wazira fadiyan bath carkeysa marka. Taa na waxa weye nadhamki logu magacabey waziryatha marka xorey ba meyxein nadham muwafaqsan, waxgarashathi wazirka ama awothi wazirka uu wizarathi kukala wathi karey xashe yeshei waxa loo isticmaley keliya meshu kacimaneye wazirkan. Waxaladexey xathath wazirkan shaqatha kathirto dhathkisi kura kumasineyan ama uu kategeya xisbiga, marka nadham ama dhowlath mamulketha kudisan yaxai nadham noocasa aath bei uu cathagtaxai sitha lo mel mariyo wayo xath iyo cher, kavil kanci, xathi layiratho dhowlatha xalakuwatho, caath bei uu cathagtaxai. Keliya waxa logabixi 24\nkara in dhath wax garashathi wizarathi lee loo magacavo xathu kofkan wazir loo magacaveya wazirnimo wizaratha wadhoyinka kale mathalan Public Works, waa in nin engineer uu noktha oo farsamathi uu mathaxtha kacaxa garanaya, usan isku xaleinin keliya reportya kaso guthbo Permanent Secretariga ama mamulinta wizaratha oo isaga naftisa intu firiyo reportka oran kara waa xalath ama xalath maxa. Dhathkas na waa in marku uu magacavo wax alala wixi shirkoinka oo mathax banan iyo macal waziryatha marki lamagacavo waa ina barlamanka magacyoxotha lakeno iyo cashiyathotha kuxisabsan wax barashathotha iyo experienceka ee leyixin oo barlamanka intu baro uu meleya marku uu ku kanca in kofkas loo magacaveyo jagathas uu kukalma.\nWaxa kalo on shercigan usub kuchira on dhoneya ugu thambeyti inan wax kashego dhowlatha xosey on daxney mamulki xormaka odan waa in districtiga lakeno. Sithetan iyo sathaxthi waxa labilawei wax layiratho district focus, district focus for rural development wexei exeth mabthac nadhamkisi uu kusal laxa uu caath uficna, xase yeshe xalath baa loo isticmaley, waxa layiri districtigi aya saldigi rasilmalki districtiga nokoneya oo laagta laga kesaneya saldiga wadhanka waxa loo keibinaya inta dheko oo wadhanka uu kakovan yaxai oo degmo caxan aya laag loo sineya.\nWaxa dacthey tii iyatha exeth iney sababtey districtya aath uu farabathan in lasameyo wayo districtgi laag bu keneya usub oo govolka uu sogelineya, sas augeth districtya fara bathan aya lasameyei iyatho oo logutala gelei ama lagugathaya laagti xor marka districtiga kusal laxa. Inta govol on district xelin ama wax district oo logutharey waxa weye waxa ugu yara North Eastern bei exeth oo wax district xor nimatha inti district oo chirtey aya chirtey ila mar aath uu doweth oo xatha district dow logutharey.\nSathaxthi district oo xor limathi chiren umba loo thaye govolka, govolkale oo inta district uu kakobna waxtigas districtgan cafarath maxeli chirin. Govolka kuxigei oo ugu yara waa govolka xal district lagu tharey waa govolka xeibta oo Malindi lagutharey wax kalo oo lagu tharey ena chirin ila xatha. Wexey tuseysa lavatha district xal shei keliya aya kakovan, shei ee kakovan lavatha district waa islanimo, lavatha govol, waxa kakovan oo mith kayixin islanimathi. Tas wexey kutuseysa mathalan xormarki lakeibinaye in logu tala gelei keibta xibnaxa ee musliminta degan taxai iney na kafacithin, gar caxan keibta meshan thegan enefdi oo xath iyo cher loo carkaye xathi mal gelin lagu sameyo iney beri ama guthbi karto ama cith kale oo mel kale kacimatey shegan karto in laga cilaliyei wax layiratho xor mar ama mal gelinta. Tas oo lagala bakaye, xathi wadhonyin loo sameyo oo warshatho loo sameyo oo beri ama gostan ama cith kale intey cimato shegato, xasara ee wadhanka kutaxai .\nWaxa bathan ayu dhathka wadhanka govolkan dhegna kuxesey iney kagocen fikrath goshasa caa, iney kagocey fikrath cith kale ee uu imato ee shegataa laakin lagama dageisanin. Marka maadhama district yathi district focus uu keni waye xor marki logutala gelei, shercigan usub waxan lenaxai mamulki xalakeno districtga, dhowlatha daxey na xakarash gareyso nadhamki iyo xor marki logu xolgeliyei district yatha kas caxan rasilmalka xormarinta districtga 25\nlogutala gelei sathax keiboth ayan daxney xalo keiviyo. Keibta ugu xore in loo keibiyo districtyatha wadhanka odan logu kaibiyo iyatha oo latex gelinayo cathatha dhathka oo kunol district ka isaga aa iyo district isaga cathatha dhulkisa. Cathatha dulka iyo cathatha dhathka, iyatho latix gelinayo in logu kaiviyo rasimalka isaga aa keib kamith caa, sathax keiboth marka lodigo keib kamith aa, in nocas loo keiviyo.\nMarka waxa weye district gi aath uu wein district getha uu ka lacag bath nan, districtigi aath uu fara bathan na districtgi dhathki uu ka laag bathnan. Keibta lavatha oo rasil malka kamith aa, waxan daxnein xalogu keiviyo si siman inta district oo wadhanka kakovan yaxai si watha siman xalogu keiviyo, xathey Nyeri oo xal million oo kof chogto ee xal million shilin xeyso, Ijara oo dhath yar xal million bei iyatha na xeli. Keibtas lavath oo keib iska caa district yatha odan wei kasinaneyan, waxa imatey keibti sathaxath, keibti sathaxath waxan daxnein keliya xalasiyo dhegmoyinka an xor marin oo cafartanki sano xormarka dhowlatha ee kagacan bith xeysey oo marginalized district loo yaqano. Keliya waxa xeleysa laagtas district yatha anan xor marin oo kamith yixin cafarta district oo wadhankan govolkan iyo district yatha sathaxtha ee oo dheriska nalaca oo Isiolo ila Moyale aa iyo district yatha Samburu iyo Turkana iyo West Pokot iyo Tana River. District yathas on xor marin, xor marlacantas ee kentey gacan bithxein tos caa oinan exen in uu xor mari waya ama dhath shaqeysan waya, xase yeshe mal gelin eina dhowlatha kusameinin aya keibtas sathaxath kafacithi sii dor sano kathib dhegmoyinka ee kuso garan ama uguso dodowathan dhegmoyinki kale ee xor maren oo rasimalki dhowlatha oo loo caruriyei ama lagu caruriyei canshurti dhathki odan isku si loo canshurey, dhathka canshurta bixineya oo xormarka canan kafacithin ee sinathan ama iskuso dowathan.\nIntas dhowlatha xose marka waxan lenaxai xalo thorto dhathki oo dhath lathorto xanocthan kabilavato jegoyinki uu xoseyo oo villageka aa ila govolka. Nadhamki lagu thoran laxa iyo xabki loo thoran laxa barlamanka aya dhejineya oo sherciga wadhanka ayu marinaya uu mel marineya oo mel marineya.\nWaxan kudameyneya xatha xathi ladexo shercigan manta an sameyney inti lameleyo bethelath dhambe sithe logusamen kara weye. Shercigi usba oo wadhanka marki lameye lixthan iyo sathaxthi, tovan bilowth keli ayu nola, tovan biloth Kadhib wala betheley shercigi, bethelath nocasa sithe ban naga cilalin karna shercigan malki iyo waxtigi dhatweinoxodan isticmaley oo waxti bathan lagu dumiyei, waxan lenaxai kothobyo sherciga kamith aa on labetheli karin ba chira. Kothobyatha talai xuquqtha cathamiga, xuquqtha cathamiga manta iyo xuquqtha cathamiga shalei iyo tan beri waa isku mith.\nMarka xuquqtha cathamiga kothoyatha dhareya inan cavatha labetheli karin, kothobyo bathan oo labetheli kara ya chiran se waxan lenaxai kothob walba oo labethelaya oo barlamanka is dexa bethelath buu uu baxan yaxai ama waxtigisi wayo sherciga waxa weye inu wafaqsanatha waxtigisi oo dhathka iyo wuxu uu baxan yaxai dhath iyo nolosha dhathka uu xath iyo cheri tix geliya uu mel mariya. Sas augeth, kothobatha sherciga karkoth ondaxney walabetheli kara, waa in barlamanka xose iyo barlamanka kore ba lavatha guri ee isku racan bethelathkas boqolki ba 26\nshan iyo tothovatan. Manta waxa weye boqolki va shan iyo lixthan, see waxan lenaxai boqolki afar mel marka loo digo sathax mloth barlamanka Ntional Assembliga iney isku racan weye, kathib loo guthbiyo National Councilka iyaga na ee isku racan boqolki va shan iyo tothovatan.\nXoula kale oo sas okale labetheli kara jiran laakin barlamanka usan betheli karin oo ila cothbixin dhathweinaxa loo guthbiya, kothobatha waxa kamith caa nadhamkan dhowlatha xosey oo daxney districtga xacaxatho saldigi xor marka, lama betheli karo ila dhathweinaxa cothikisa loo guthbiyo moogiye. Kuraxa loo rithaya malabetheli mise lama bethelayo xaa iyo maya, kuracas gocankisa aya lagu dakakeya intas ayan kagabaxeya nadhamka iyaga na oo bethelathki sherciga laga yava markatey in lagu sameyo sherciga marka lameleyo kathib xathalka waa ithinku derei intasan dhoneya inan kujojiyo kurmarkeigi, xathan waxan ithin weithineya kofki an wax faxmin ama waxan aan dhul marey uu maraktey aan uu dicing oo bayanin ubaxan ama ina losi falotho uu baxan waxan ithin furaya fursath aan kuweithisan sucala.\nMohammed O. Maalim: Wath makashen ayan umaleyneya marka waxan dhoneyna in xoga yar nidham aan yelano xalkan aan fadiney kofka sucashi markei kavato inath magacaga shegto maxa yelei walathuveya, magacaga inath shegtith, shucasha na marka walasi koreya lazim maxa ina isla marki in lacamfeyo marka tovan kof xal mar iney batan aya xal mar laithin majiveya. Marka ninki sucal kava gacanta xatagto marka magacisa xashego wana ugeneyna recording marka wixi sucal caa laakin ogatha manta ooth bixin iyo wax loga cimathey somaxa, wixi Commissionerga xatha shegei ninki faxmin ama fax faxin ubaxan waxa lathoneya ayar inath gacanta tagtith wixi kuracsantaxai wava kuragsantaxi, wixi kale oo xogo shaki kagachira inath shegtit aya larava. Wath magashen xaga administrationka wax yala aya laga farageliya somaxa, makuraqsan naxai? Carinta Kadhiga waath maqashen, carinta cisbiyasha iyaka na waath baqashen, xisbiyasha wei bathan yixin waxtigan ila cafartan iyo afar aya chira, qar waa kavil nimo iyo waxey oo maxa cisbi wadhanka koveya ama metelaya marka xata holidayasha we baten somaxa, sherciga usub in sathax holiday lashegei, wixi Kenyatta Day iyo Moi Day iyo waxan laistajiyo aya lathoneya wadhanka laagtisa in mar lavath labethelo oo ninki cimatha ba tabar tisa laga saro meshas carimaxas in waxa Daxtarka uu shegei Commissionerga aya larava marka inath gacanta tagatin, sucala wan katheyna marka, nambar aya lagusineya nambar one marka xadowto magacatha ayath shegi.\nYusuf Ibrahim: Yusuf Ibrahim aya layiratha, sucasheithi wexey kuxisabsan taxai lava meloth, lavatha meloth waxa kamith caa mithi ugu xoreyso xagi dhinti. Waxa layiri dhinti waxan shokathani mithi hindigi iyo mithi Muslinka, waxa nalogashegey Kenya iney lethaxai dhima bathan oo kala thug thugan, sababto dhinixi kalo oo laga tegei xorta sucal ban kakava. Tan kale mitha xatha leyixin xagan oo dhowlatha xosey laga xathley, waga laga xathley maa dhowlatha xosey mise waa administrationka oo provincial administration waye sucasheytha waa lavathas.\nIman Ali: Magaceyga waa Iman Ali waxan sucal kagava xathalki udhambeyei xatha aath shegeysey administrationka 27\nayanan caath ufaxmin ina lagu noctho an rava. Com. Nunow: Kuceli sucasha kuceli?\nIman Ali: Xathalka xatha uu dhambeyei xatha cathi aath noo shegtei bande ya administration wax ba laga farageliyei aath lexeth ayan caath ufaxmin ina lagu noktho carinta isaga caa.\nAbdi Hassan Guled: Mimi naitwa Abdi Hassan Guled nina swali kuhusu upande wa Administration, sijui kisomali ni mzuri yale mengine sina swali mengi sana lakini hapa upande wa Administration sidhani kama tumefika kiwango ya kupotesha hiyo serikali mzima. Kwa sababu mimi ni msomali sasa na kule upande wa Nairobi kuna watu wana kunywa busaa, hii busaa tunazuiwa na sheria ile sheria ya zamani ya ukoloni tumewacha, hii ya serikali tumewacha sasa tukiwa sisi tunaji-control nafikiri haiwezekani kwa sababu sisi ni wafugaji sasa wenyewe tumeshindwa na hapa kuko na askari na hapa askari kila asubuhi mali inachukuliwa lakini ninaona hapo hatuwezi hapo, Kenya mzima.\nCom. Nunow: Hiyo ni maoni sio?\nAli Abdi Hussein: Mimi Ali Abdi Hussein mtu wa Habaswein. Si lugha mimi ninaweza ile mimi ninataka. Kitu ya kwanza moja ni mzuri, vile mimi maoni yangu ninaona, ile mzuri ninaona ni kuhusu mambo ya ardhi, sisi wafugaji hapa nchi hii tulikuwa na wasi wasi kuhusu ardhi sababu hii sehemu yetu ya Northern Eastern au hata hii jirani wetu kama Eastern tuko karibu karibu tunahusiana kwa upande wa ufugaji. Hii ardhi kama imekuja mambo ya kubadilisha sheria desturi ya nchi inabadilishwa, hii nchi ilikuwa na desturi ingine zamani, hii desturi ilikuwa zamani tulikuwa na nafasi lakini nchi yenyewe hatukujuwa ni ya nani. Sababu ambaye ninasema hivyo sababu ya labda mkono moja serikali zamani imeweka mambo ya kisiasa ambayo inahusiana na mambo ya development, nchi yetu sababu sisi tulikuwa tunajitenga zamani, ingawa tumetoka katika kujitenga hiyo, hata hivyo serikali hakufanya kitu yeyote kuhusu nchi yetu.\nKwa vile nchi hii haikufanywa development sisi tunajuwa kwa sababu hiyo tu ilikuwa inabaki lakini kama nchi ilikuwa inafanyika development nafikiri sisi tungekosa, tungekuwa tu kama sehemu zingine down country ambao wanafuga ngombe mbili hapa wanatembea juu ya barabara, na sisi hatuna shamba hatuna maji, nchi yetu ilikuwa mji kidogo. Sasa kama vile desturi inasema, hii nchi inawekwa mikono ya wananchi, hapa tunafurahia kidogo kwa sababu nchi itakuwa sehemu ya mikono yetu, vile sisi tutafanya ndiyo itakuwa. Sisi ni wafugaji hatuna mashamba, shamba yetu ni mifugo, wakati mmoja inakwenda hivi na wakati mwingine hivi lakini kitu moja ambayo iko, sisi tuko katika mipaka ya Ethiopia na Somalia vile vile, wafugaji kwa wakati huu sasa kama mvua haikupatikana watu wako tiyari kuvuka popote kutafuta malisho, hapo ndiyo tunataka kujuwa vile serikali ya Kenya ina maoni gani hapo ama sheria. Yangu ni hiyo.\nMohamed Ibrahim: Aniga waxan kuxathli afsomali sithey dhathka ufaxmi laxayen, mesha administrationka markan ukacney, waxa ladexey waxkasta election aya laguso geleya, division na machiro aya ladexey marka taa iyatha ee ayan wax rava in aath 28\nnalosi kala faliyo. Mitha iyatha ee xathi administration Kenya Constitution Review etaxai iyatha ee katen, will North Eastern xathii ladexo taa iyatha anaka kuma racsanin, kwa vile waxan ugu racsanen, mexey keneysa dib bathan, musuq masaq nimo uu keneysa, waxa kalo ukeneysa kavil kavil bei ukeneysa oo dhagal baa kadaceya oo laguma xeshinayo kursiga.\nWaxa kalo ee ukeneysa kavil kavilaxa yar yarka oo maraktey oo xaquqthotha an uu thothi karin oo laga rabathanayo melkasta oo iyatha na tas dib ukeni dhath weinaxa. Wayo waxa chira meshan Wajir can sin kaso cathano Wajir South marka ladexo waxa isla fadina sathax kavil, Makabul iyo Maxamed Suber, Geri iyo baxa Geri. Marka Geri iyo baxa Geri mesha iyatha okale walaga xogeya gemberka, wixi xaquqtha mesha ee kulaxaneya malaxa magaraneysa taa iyatha ee dib wein ba kacimaneya. Oo pande laagta ukaca, laagta xathan uu kacna maxa laagta Kenya iney markasta mathaxweina kii Kenya kanoctho picharkisa laguso dejiya waa in lagabethela oo loguso kora xolaxa iyo waxas sifaa maraktey laagta ubethelin, coinka lathayo valueless ayei nokoneysa, thank.\nAli Abdi Ibrahim: Aniga waxa layiratha Ali Abdi Ibrahim. Aniga waxan ogan rava cama an kajaxil bixin rava carimaxa aath notatavatey oo kuxisabsan wananchi ya Kenya kuli. Kenya ninkasto oo Kenyan aa melu chogo baa waxatirathen xaq buu kuleyaxai, sithi ama shercigan xatha sothechisen uu digayo. Ee awe shercigi awel sii yale waxan aath iyo aath loogu dib kavey inkasto oo Kenyan odan wadhanka xaq kuleyaxai kavil odan aya chirtey ama carurtotha kipande ee kaxeleynin ama basbor ee kaxeleynin ama waraqtha dalashatha ee kaxeleynin aya chirtey, waa mith mitha lavath sucal keiga waxa weyan xathii an usonokon North Eastern, xathi dhath weinixi wadhanka dhegana, Illahi nin walba shaley mel buu kucavurey nin walba govol uu dhegana ba chirey xathi nin dhathki shicibki wadhanka lexeith awoth lasiyei oo layiri cathiga cawotha lasiyei oo layiri cawotha athiga waye, kavil odan yar yar kale ama kavil aya chira oo isaga wadhankisa cawoth uu xainin waxva awotha an kulexein ama barlaman ba anlogu chirin aya chirta ee marka mitha iyatha ee ayan rava inan kajaxil baxo ama iga jaxil bixiso sithi shercigu digaya ayan dhoneya wasallam aleikum.\nMaalin Ali Muxumed A: Aniga magaceyga waxalayiratha Macalin Ali Muxumed Adhan. Waxa tirathen aan uu maleneya ninkasta xornimo sithu u ravoxacu dactho anaga na waxa naxogamineya sherciga muslinka sithan dhono umadakan karno kitabka waa inan racno. Waxa dici karta daliyaro xatha xathi layiratho nin walba sithath rabta xaloo ogolatho, xamri iyo macsiyo aya geleyso anaga na rali kama nixin mana kudakan karno sitha iyatha ee. Waxath tirathen bilcanta barlamanka xaso gesho oo maogolin anaga bilcan barlaman iney soo geisho aath ayei ino diveysa. Sherciga muslinka rali kamaxa barlaman naag iney soo gesho, waxa tirathen cilmaxa xaquqthotha xala cilaliyo, cilmaxa inta anaga cawothena umban cilalin karna. Marka tas na waa inan isku wafaqna ilalinta sithi loo ilalin laxa sherciga, koi mitha kale dhalka dhathweinaxa kunol waxa loo baxan yaxai xuquqthotha iney sinan ee caxato tas na waxan uu maleneya wa sherciga musliminka was kuwafaqsan naxai, Assallam aleikum.\nCom. Nunow: Sucalaxas inta xatha lashegey ayan wax yar kashegeya. Sucasha ugu xorey wexey exeth dhinta 29\nislamka moogiye dhimanka kale maxa loga tegey. Dhimanka kale lagamategin ee shercigan usub uxu leyaxai nin walba dhinta uu ragsanyaxai aya loo bath bathineya oo loo cilalineya uu raceya, se dhin ee nadham utaley oo maxakamath gar le dhinta islamka umba chirtey. Sas augeth, wayo wadhankan wadhan dhin lagu xukumo xorta maxa mitha ugu xorey, secular state ba layiratha wa wadhan lagu xukuma sheric binacatham kore.\nMitha lavath maxakamath gar ca xan aa mathama musliminta keliya ee uu taley maxakamatha iyatha exeth loma balarinin musliminta. Dhathki kale wexey kukanacsanyixin sherciga isaga caxa wayo dhintotha uu wafaqsanyaxai, xavak dhintotha uu kaqilafeya maleh, dhin kolka xorey an sal wein silehen iyatha na sas huthuth kan loo korey umba loo korey. Dhinta musliminta na see waa dhin intaso boqol oo sane sijirtey oo binacathan waxfa usan kabetheli karin tas waxath kugaran karta marka xathi methelan kitab Qur’an aa oo tafsir keliya on Arabic kukornein tafsir keliya xathu yaxai, kitab Qur’an madexeysith, tafsir bath dixi, tafsir Qur’an waye baath dexeysa. Kitabka Qur’anka waxa weyan Arabic sithi loguso thejiyei wayo wax markath tafsirtit lava rux isku sii uma tafsiri karan xathey mel walba isku si kayixin, mel umbey isku kala betheleyan. Sas augeth aya xath iyo cher marki latafsiro lathoneya kitabka Qur’anka carfigi na inu kugarab furanyan yaxai, oo kofki Arabic faxmeya oo tafsirkisa kafaxmeya arabiga, xathi kofka tafsireya oo tafsir qora gar tafsir keliya kitab Qur’an an korey madexeyo, tafsir ban korey budixi. Iyaga see kitabki lakorey ninka korey magacisi aya lagushega, kitabkan waa kitabki galatha oo xevel kasofuley baa lagudixi kan na xevel bukaso fuley, marka wax dhin aa oo wafaqsan ama kathugan sherci gacan lagu korey dhinta islamnka aya chirta, sas augeth aya dhinta islamka loo siye mathax bananka maxakamathethi sin chirtey umbanan balarinin anaga.\nMamulka dhowlatha xosey an kaxathleya waxa weyey dhowlatha xose oo xatha Councilka loo yakano xase yeshe bethelathka aan kaxathleino uxu isku tharaya mamulka uu xaye Provincial Administrationka oo PC ga, DC ga, DO ga chiefafka ee xayen iyo mamulka Councilka exeth ayu isku thareya, daman uxu uu xos keneya mathax lathortey oo Council loyakano oo dor cibnoth kakovan. Nadhamkas waxa weye tula walba locationyatha iyo sublocationyatha xatha jogan wexey thoraneyan dhath loyakano village Council. Mamulka ee kuthoran laxayen ama xakuthortan otheytha meshi jogta xamaga cavan ama coth bixin xasameyano. Councilka divisionka waxa cisugu cimaneya inta location iyo sub-locationyatha village Councilyatha kayimathen ya mith walba intaso kof olasothortey ama loo magacavei yaa usimgacavi inu faristo divisionka Councilka oo loyakano location Council.\ndivisionkas ayu kakovan yaxai.\nDivision Councilka dhathka division Councilka lamathoranin see waa dhath locationka loso thortey oo loso magacavey marka location walba inta kof oo jegothotha losiyei uu uso magacavey. Districtga Councilka farisanaye waa lasothorani sas aa losothoran iyaga na.\nDhathkas wexey uu douthaxai ina lagaso watha dhorto melaxa\nCouncilka xatha lagaso thorto oo wards loyakano oo review boundary, boundaries review Commission oo lasameynayo oo logutala gelei markas wax alala wixi xatha oo laisku xestey inu meleya aya meleynaya boundariska 30\nuu kala betheleya oo yareynaya xalkas aya lagaso thoraneya dhathka ka keib kathaneya district Councilka.\nDistrict Council ya odan intey isu imathan aya wexey Council yatha district ga kakobna daxthotha aya wexey magacaveyan mith iyaga kamith aa oo dhathka laso thortey caa ayei uu magacaveyan guthomiyaxa district isaga aa. Guthomiyix district gothi na marka uxu nokoneya District Administrator kofka laso thortey oo dhathka laso thortey kamith aa, district yathi govolka kakobna odan mamulayalkothi intey isu imathan ayei magacaveyan mith iyaga kamith aa ayei guthomiyi govolka kumagacaveyan, govolkan na wax cawoth uu ulaxaneya malex, kor mer keliya aya shaqathisa aa. Mamulka odan iyo xor marka odan iyo wax alala wixi ee dhegmatha ee uu baxantaxai, guthomiyaxa dhegmatha iyo Councilka dhegmatha ayu kaso fuli.\nMarka wa provincial administrationki iyo Councilki oo laisku thare camal. Carinti dulka wuxu yiri otheyga, dhathki maadhama uu gur gurayo, dulki xorta dhatki aya ule camar oo uxu dhono kusameyo.\nMinacaxa taa wexey\nkacilalineysa dulki xoulixi lagusameyei dulka masaitha okale, Kajiado dhegmatha loyakano oo lo keiviye dulki dhathki inta laisku thugei lava lava boqol sathax boqol oo kof yaa group ranches wax layiratho losameyei. Group rancheski xoga markei jogen dhathki, waxa layiri xaq bath ulethin inath keibsatan, wei keibsathen, nin ba kuso xagagi boqol ekar oo dax ee, rux ba kuso xagagi boqol ekar oo gothath keliya aa. Dulki xolixi wei kuxein wayen masaithi, nin walba dulkisi uu xirey sithi bu kuxirtey, marki dhambey wexey nokthen iney ama kireyan ama ee fashan, iney kireyan ama ee gathan.\nDulki Kajiado dhathki chogey marki iguthambeyse aniga sagashan iyo sithethki oo lava biloth dax waregeye waxath carki dhathki intisa bathan marki iyatha exeth, shan sano aya lagajoga xatha, boqolki ba tothovatan dulki waxa falanaya dhath kale oo mel kale kayimathe oo que bathan ama wei kiresten ama wei kacibsathen. Koftan xolixisa mel uu geineya marka male, xolixi na intu gathey ayu watchman magalatha kanocthey marka ila mel uu kutajiva xathey lethaxai, dulki odan dhath ba le marka.\nNadhamkas Isiolo in lagasameyo aya laiskutheyei, sagashan iyo lixthi dhathki ba kaxortey walathithey walathithey. Marka dulki mamulkisi iyo wixi dhathka camfacaya, dhathki aya katashanaya xatha, dhatki xathey uu carkan nadham keibis oo camfacaya, xaceibsathan laakin cith kale oo maraktey kor kacimani oo usameynesa malaxa.\nWaxa cimatey carinti dhathka xola daqatatha maadhama dhath gureya uu yaxai xabkisi waxa weye mesha cos le. Kofka xola daqatatha xolixisa ma cagjogayo isago dhac mel kale chira wadhan kale xacaxato xata, isago basbor iyo visa mithna lexein bu socono, taa iyatha ee oo imbathan fikratha imbathan ee kaso guthubtey dhathka xola daqatatha aya waxan dexnein sherciga usub waa inu dhathka uu ogolatha inu laxan karo lava basbor oo kofka Kenyan ka aa loo ogolatho wadhan kale inu basbor kisa laxatho. Kofki wadhani nimatha Kenyaga kuwaye na isago oo wadhan kale uguthbei dharteth malinki xornimatha laxelei ila manta, in losoceliya wadhanimathi Kenya basborki Kenya lasiya. 31\nDhath bathan oo dhevetha tegey oo wadhan devetha kasheqeyneya ama marekan ama Canada ama Australia oo logu kasbey shaqa kolki xorey utegei ama degan ama becshara uu tegei oo wadhankan uu dhegana marku shan sano dhegana ama lix sano dhegana an loo ogolanin sharcigi usan kathan karin shercigisa xorey inu bur buriyo moogiye, kofka sas shercigisa kuwaye waa inu dhib losiya sherciga wadhanka oo kofka lava basbor uu laxan kara. Marka dhathkena deriska lacaxa Ethiopia iyo Somalia, xath iyo cher meshi dhathkas uu ubathan yaxai dhakisa gela oo Kenya kabaxsan, wadhanka inu basborkisa rathsatho weyan walo ogol yaxai xathu wadhanka kale ogol yaxai.\nWadhanka kale xathusan ogolein Kenya kuma kasbi karto, wayo wadhan walba shercigisa umbu mamuli kara sherciga wadhan kena xathu sherciga xer gela, kofka waa lo ogol yaxai wadhan kale shercigisa uu kathan kara xathu wadhanka kale rali kayaxai, lava sherci kofki inu laxatho.\nWilki xathey na wuxu yiri dhorashan waxa lagayava dhathka kavilatha yar iney kuras uu dhitha maathama ee dhathka odan lathoranaya qavilatha faratha bathan baa dhathkotha dhorani, dhorasho xorta markey taxai sas waye, laakin waxan dexney village Councilka dhathka mesha dhegan aya kuxeshini nadhamki ee wax kukoran laxayen ama xathi ladexo Councilkinan waa sitheth kof, ama tothova kof sitha ee kuso bixin laxayen iyage utala, inta bathan dhathka mathaxtha aa sii qacin nimo iney kusameyan moogiyei dhiyar uma caxa iney uu bareran iney dhathka bovan ama sii musuq masaq nimo ama af cathi aa umba xos logu digi dhathka oo maraktey xaqotha loga thafiri. Tas waxa laga guthbi kara in laga tashaneya carinti iyo nadhamki logusi thoran laxa xorta, xathi taa wax logugule san waya, sherciga wuxu leyaxai, dhath walba oo soo thorta inu kakobnatha waye dhathka theganka iskale oo daman. Xathi dhathki inti laso thorto mathalan dhathki kayimathey Wajir South, Councilki daman xathey Makabul nokthan, guthiga dhoroshatha xaq buu uleyaxai inu dhitha dhowrashatha oo uu yaqiniya inta kof ee kutala nadhamka iney meshas dhegan yixin, iney keibtas dhowrashatha ee soo gelen. Lagayava kan xathu kursi xeley kan lava kursi uu xeley, laakin kof kamacnatha inu san chirin ayu shercigan caragtithisa ee taxai.\nWaxa uu cithiyei sucal kofka xaqisi kipandatha iyo basborka iyo waxas, simnashatha dhathka an lenaxai, waxa weye kof walba oo wadhani aa inu xaq uleyaxai in lasiyo. Xathi intath kipandathi uu thonatit divisionka lagasin wayo, inath maxakamath tegi kartit, maxakamatha na xathi anath cawothin inath cathith in dhowlatha ee kukasbantaxai inath wakil ee kukavato oo sherciga kukasbayo. Marka taa waxa loga guthbeya, nadhamki iyo awothi sherciga dhowlatha oo caath loo caye oo si xalath aa loo isticmaley waxtiya aath uu fara bathan oo dhath bathan oo dhathka govolkan dhegan ee kuchiran logu sameyei xata mithib takor tosa oo kipande noc kale lodivey. Wax alala wixi mith takor kusal laxa ama sherci xalath caxa oo wadhanka yala malinku shercigan xirgela wala bur burineya.\nMalinku shercigan kalinka lagudufta aya uguthambein, kipande cas oo laisweithiyo mathalan ama laisticmalo ama nadham emergency oo laisticmalo on kaso fulin barlamanyatha lavatha guri. 32\nMacalinka wuxu yiri waxan dexney kof walba sithu dhono xaku dactho manan dixin waxan umaleyni inanan sifican isku mujinin waxan daxney dhath walba oo wadhanka dhegan iney xaq uleyixin xathi ee dhonan xithi iyo dakan kotha iney kudacthan iney kudakan karan on lagu kasbi karin dakan ama xithi iyo dakan kale oo kalafan. Mitha lavath ba waxa ee kof walba inu xaq uleyaxai shercigan inu cilaliyo uu wajib kasaran yaxai inu kudactha nolol ama dakan dhintisa wafaqtha. Wax alala wixi shercigan usub kukoran oo dhinta islamnka wafaqsanein, Musliminta wajib kama saran iney racan, kothob tusinaya carintasa oo kuyala shercigan usub on lenaxai musliminta kothobyatha kothobatha shercigan usub kothob kamith aa xathu dhintotha kilafa, dhintotha ayei karaceyan, marka wax iskudax karson maxa, xithi iyo dakanka iyo dhinta wei kalayixin. Daqanka kavil walba oo wadhanka kunol dakan kisi xathi uu leyaxai saa udactha ama san ulabista shercigan inu uu baneyo weye xaulabistan xacudacthan laakin dakanki cith alal cithi muslinima isticmaleysa oo muslim aa oo dhinta muslinka kudaqaneysa, wax alala wixi daqan ee xeysatey, dakanki dhinta aya kor mara. Kavil kasta xaxaxatho ama xamathovatho ama Arab xacaxatho ama jaluo xacaxatho ama Kikuyu xacaxatho ama turkana xacaxatho, kof xathu Muslim yaxai dakankisi mel buu diga daqanki islamku kata. Sitha aan kagathugan naxai daqan yatha kale waa tas.\nKoloyinkan kale dhintothi iyo daqankothi, daqankothi bei karacan oo dhinta waxa weye wax mar mar un lasugu imatho oo totovatha malin malinko laisku cimatho oo dhurban lathumo. Macalinka wuxushegey dhumarka ina loo ogolein barlamanka, xathi govolkan layiratho oo afar kof oo dhumar caa jegothothi bath lethixin oo afarta kof keniw ayan, jegoyin kotha wei banananeyan, saa wain le wax isweithis lee, shercigas lagusameynayo mesha iyatha aa, rag iyo thumar baa dib buu uukeni kara ama def buu ukeni kara. Wax alala wixi wadhanka kunol bu sameyneya xathi cathan kakeibkathanin, mith anath kakeibkathanin oo cothkatha aath lagamaclin baa lagugu xukumi.\nMarka dhinta islamka na wexey wafaqsantaxai wax alala wixi naftatha betheleya ama dhintatha bath bathinaya ama naftatha wax udimaya ama uu camfacaya inath ka keib kathatit. Illahi marku leyaxai qom noloshotha ma bethela ila iyaga noloshotha ee bethelan, waa ayath Qur’an aa waxa weye wixi naftatha lagugu isticmali karo oo cawoth ulexen inath iskarebtit inath ke keibkathatit weye oo sitha kucamfaceysa oo dhintatha wafaqsan aath kaga keibkathata loguguna xukumo.\nMarka maadhama wadhan dhin islam lagu xukumayo anan chogin oo xukumka islmaka uu yaxai keib yar oo nalo ogolathey oo inta uu sherciga uu kaga bethelan yaxai ee taxai, intu kaga wafaqsanyaxai shercigan uu na xukumaya waxa weye kof ala kof muslim aa meshas sherciga logugu xukumi dhono lagu sameynaya waa inath ke keib qathatit oo dhath kathu uu jogo rag iyo dhumar baa oo oth katha laga macla oo xathal katha divatit oo nadhamkas aath ka keibkathatit. Wadhan muslin aa xathath jogtit xaa, islanimatha maogola dhumarka iney ama camar bixiyan ama dhath xor istagan xathi ladexo xaa, laakin maadhama wadhan muslin anan jogin aan kusugno ila malinka Illahi unasiyo wadhan muslin aa oo nadhamki nagula xukumayo aan ka keib kathano. 33\nXuquqthi cilmaxa oo lacilalinaye, nin walba oo walith caa, cilmaxatha tarbiyintisa xathiga xorta marka uguxorey wajib kasaran waye. Xathi aath awothi weysi inath tarbiyeisith cunugathi, waaina wajib katha guthan waisey, xathi dhathka maraktey gacantatha kafath uu noktha waa inath idharoyinka maraktey kuxisabsan cilmaxa aath report uu geisa oo cilmaxa lageya mesha cilmaxa lagu xananeyo oo mas’uliyatha lagala warega. See maxa inath tirathith waxan kanoge oo wadhonyinku iska warega oo sithu dhono kudacmo, xathiga markath tothova dafto, shicibki dhathweinixi wadhanka ayu wajib kasaran yaxai cunugas sixun udakanaya inu saxa oo xalathka kasaxa. Cunug yar oo tovan chira oo ama sigar cabeya ama xamra cabeya xathath wadhatha kumartit, oo shib katirathith oo isku theyith inath dhisisith oo karebtit walagugu dhacwein kara wanalagugu kabsani.\nMaxa yelei dhath anan cilmixi dharbiyenin waxa weye cayixisa dhambe dhib buu uu mareya xathana oo maraktey cilmaxa markey furan uu kayiman thono. Sas augeth waina ka inda tiri karin wax xalath aa oo cilmaxa ukudaqaneya oo carkeya oo inath isku dheysith mesha aath mareysith waxath kaqavan kartit aath kaqavatit xathath waxva kaqavan karin aath reportka geiso.\nWaxan umaleyni intasey exeth sucali laiweithiyei, sucaloyin kale dhatka xatha weithiyei mecexen dhath kale oo kathugan xaweithiyan sucala wayo kofko ama lava kof xathan kucel celina dhathka waxtiga uu yar yaxai marka waxan dhoneya dhathka iney sucala weithiyan wixi weithini kara.\nRonow Abdi Noor: Aniga waxa layiratha Ronow Abdi Noor. Rer Wajir an naxai oo rer North Eastern an naxai dhathka cilmigisa waa yar yaxai, PC iyo DC administration aa lathorani xatha layiratho divata wein oo saxarir aya kaciman xagisa. PC cilalein waye meshan na qavileis aye kusarisata, meshan North Eastern waa qavilei iska jetha. PC gas oo dhowlatha so kortey aya laguxeshin lacyaxai oo octhma malin walba lagashega mitha anaga gacantain kuthoraney, ma Ajuran aqathaneya, ma Degodia aya kathaneya, ma Ogaden aya kathaneya divato aya kacimaneysa. DO wa sithas okale, administrationka meshisa xalothayo an leyaxai aniga akli caxanteitha, Council iyo MP aya dibka iyo cuqtha aya wexey kacimathey aa yav ee on kuxeshin lacnaxai oo kavil kavil kale kas waye. Xathi xathan administration laguso tharo ceeb ba kacimani oo dhil ba kacimani oo babac ba kacimane, cakli caxantey sas waye.\nShiith Muhumed: My name is Shiith Muhumed afsomali waxa waye laakin xaga understing English sameyo. Com. Nunow: Speak whichever language you want.\nShiith Muhumed: The question is, we want more clarifications concerning passports on how one is supposed to go out of this country and then coming back. The other question you said about the MP can be recalled if its people or those who have elected him agree, now for how long can this Member of Parliament allowed to stay in the Parliament for example, if he is elected after two months then if his people find that he is not providing or playing his role, for how long duration is he given so 34\nthat he can serve his people?\nAhmed Abdi Noor: Magaceyga waxa layiratha Ahmed Abdi Noor. Sucasha kovath on sucaleya waxa weye xaga dhinta islamka iney na keibaxa sogelen iney laxathan xoriyath kamil caa xorta. Mitha lavath waxan dhoneya in laikala xatheyo maxakamoyinki islanka maxakamatha usareysa iyo tan Kenya usareysa iney siman yixin iyo iney kala xoseyan oo xos imaneyso barlamanka.\nTan lavatha, mesha layiri waa iney kayaranin districtyatha sothon Kadhi, sothonka Kadhi marka waxan uu carka aniga caragtitheytha iney yar yixin. Mitha sathaxath kola culumo xathey iga dhambeyso ayan uu daineya xaga religionka. Xaga woviyaxa, mise celasha xathi mar ee dhath weinaxa rer Kenya wadhaniga uu daxeyan gos yar mise kola gel mise govo yar inu gosta ani sherciga mitha iyatha ilama banana malin xorey na walaga xathley an umaleyneya. Ano kaxathleya Uaso Nyiro, wuxu mara ila Somalia ayutega marka Uaso Nyiro uu naa gacan yaxai xatha, divata aya nagaxesata, biyixi Uaso Nyiro an kafacithesan lexen wei gocan yixi wala xirey. Protetion ba lagusubiyei weinaga xiran yixin, KANUga Kenya waxun raba watu wa Kenya dhathka Kenya xathu siman yaxai in biyaxas lasothayo oi caxayan wax uu kafacithesaneya dhathka rer Kenya oo kunol odan ona marakta ee kof una xiran karin oo free down lasiyo. Dinaca mfugajiga xolaxa, divata wein ba chirta olaiska xilmamey xolaxa North Eastern xathan ka xathalno xaga cafimathka xolaxa. Xathi aath lethaxai xola waa in cathiga aath dhaweisato oo dhawatha soo gathata athigo rer bathiyo oo waxva garaneynin dhawa sogatheysa, dhawathi bath xolixi kuthureysa, qiyasta inta cc oo lagu thareya magaraneysith maraktey dhawatha nefka chirathisi iyo dhawatha cilmi umalixith, wan iska thurana suga weliva dhukamathan kagathana. Waxan dhoneyna iney maraktey mesha iyatha ee lasaxa, lanta cafimathka xolaxa in ee caxata laan mel kasta jogta oo marakta cafimathka xolaxa sifican ugu tagan.\nSuka xolaxa waxa naga xesta divata wein Mandera ba lagasosareya carig gari ila waxa lageyneya Kariobangi, cariga isaga ee waxa lageineya carigi laguso gathey kun iyo shan boqol, isago maraktey shan boqol oo chogin aya lageineya Nairobi oo garigi kudamathey iyo rafath. Sith lajigeth suq wein oo marakta ee lethaxai North Eastern xata provincika naloga digya katika Wajir nalogadigya, mel naloga digo ba inu suqaseito uu laxatho xolaxa seito sii loga baxa divatatha kaxesata wadhanka. Lasti, waxan dhoneya in losubiyo warshath cilibka oo sitha Kenya Meat okale North Eastern. Assallam aleikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.\nBishar Yusuf: Ani waxa ladexa Bishar Yusuf waxan sucal kaqava kothobka kothob meshan lagashegey, kothobkas oo ee freedom of movement yacni dhathka iney mel kale ee cathi karan, tas wexey ilataxai iney surta geleinin. Wexeyna kusurta geleinin kof meshan joga aya ladexey waxath lethaxai fursath aath kutegi karta mel kale, nin inta islam kucaxai aategi kara down Kenya mela kale marka dhintisa ayu danci inu mesha kucamal falo wixi na lagama yelayo marka mesha waxa kaciman dib iney dhathka kale oo mesha xestey oo kaxoreyei ee dhagal ee kucathan ee karevan 35\nmarka taa wexey ila taxai iney surta geleynin. Iminka waxan rava dhowlatha sii ee dibkas dici thona ee kurevi karto.\nAli Osman Adam: Aniga xathakeiga maadera uu gavan yaxai, waxan kusucali Bwana Arale anaga xathi kamith an naxai dhathka Kenya shercigi ma damathey wa sucal mise waxva diman, xathi ee tiraxtho ee madamanin jawab ban kuleyaxai. Xathu damathey waxan rava inath igajawabto xathan naxai North Eastern, sathaxtha govol lagaso gilavo Garissa, Wajir Mandera – North Eastern, shercigi xathi aath dameyse waxan kusucaleya xathath dameysen, nadhamki uu Kenya kudamathey ma kamith ban naxai mise manixin. Xathi aan kamith naxai waxan rabna daqala Kenya xeysato inan xelno, xathi ee dhowlatha navath kabto oo disantaxai iyo xathey xatha disan taxai, xathi aan kamith naxai waxan rabna inan xelno inta Kenya xesato, jitka inan xelno, suqa inan xelno, sherciga inan xelno, cistimarka inan kabaxno iyo divatatha, sitha Kenya uu mathax banan taxai sas an rabna. Xathi anladamein na waa raiyath goni aa wan kaso fikirin wan kaxathleyna.\nWaxa lasheg shegeye dhath xathleya oo siyasath iyo wax nocas kaxathleya, siyasathu nin nol baxela, anga xathi an barlaman kuchirno na barlaman wax def on kuxesano na malaxa, nin umba musharka qata. Xathi can laxelin la ninka xelei kolka kavilka ee shegeyan laso katho kan barlamanka kuchira iyo kan kuchirin waa isku mith maxa yelei nin umba mushar noga katey wax wein oo def on xatha an ka caragno on Kenya kulasiman naxai oo nomugtho on kufacithney machirin, kavil umey kashekeyan kolkey istagan, waxa layira xevel xevel baa katan barlamanku mar bu dismeya nin bu Allah ukorey malinku xab iyo biya caxa oo xela, waxa isweithin lee, kuwa kucala caleya anagu wan yar naxai ama anagu wax maxelno, iyagu wax maqakatanyixin, shaqatha wadhanka maqakatanyixi mise wei kuchiran.\nXathi mith barlaman gelo kursiga kuxiga soo barlaman maxa, Councilor so barlaman maxa, shaqatha dhowlatha so wadhanka logama thorto, soma cestan xathi se raciyatha ladaxgelo soma ficna wax lagatashathey oo lagaxeshiyei iney nokoto. Kaa anaga kaxeshin karna oo isthili karna. Taa na sas ee wadhanka xuquqthisa umba larava inu Kenya uu kamith noqtho anaga mitha an rabna in nalothimayo waxa weye xathi aan Kenya kamith naxai shercigi masitha Kenya uu xagagey ayu nagu xagagi thona mise sithi xorey an caxan thona. Waxa lashegei oo nunu kuwa meshan, administrationka waxa ladexo in lajavineyo ani mamakal athiga kamamakal laakin kuwa igu shekeinayo, administrationka xathi lajaviyo, administrationka kama maran no, xathi administrationka lachaviyo ama mel laisku cururiyo ama cawothisa ee yarato, in sherci kale oo naqafiyo on caragno xatha kathib aan caragno moogiye, kamava maran no maxayelei iyaga ban xorjogna on kunol naxai.\nDhathkan waa dhath iskasha oo iney dhagalaman mogiye an chogi karin shagatha na Somali ba iskale wa wax laogyaxai Kenya wan kadhugan naxai noc kasta loo kaca na kaga thugan naxai, tana waxan rabna xathi ee wax kachiran inath no fax faxiso iyatha na wan dhoneyna.\nTan kale sherciga markan uso nokotho, sherciga dhinta natha wixi an kaga xathalney awel ban kagaxathalney, wixi no mel marey na wei no mel maren, wixi kadiman xathath wax noga shegi lexeth tasa kadiman xalonagutharo manta inan dexno wan ravi lexein. Bilcanta xaqotha wei kathan karan weina leyixin wana ugolnaxai, barlaman na iney sogelan wan rabna xathan an rabni iney barlaman sogelan, maxan carurta gebdaxa skulka ugeinena? Maxan wax ubareyna? Maxan secondariga uga bixineyna, waxan rabna xuquqthotha iney qatan, barlamanka iney raga ulasimnathana, xathey naqtu barlaman ee sogeysho, raga wei kaficantaxai, wei kacalol nugushaxai, cithetha aye daqala cukordisa, nadham bathan oo raga laga xeleinin ba lagaxela, wavan lacnaxai nag barlaman nosogesha, laakin xathan xeli lexen rali ban kanaxai. Maxa yelei naqtu markey barlaman gesho, waa naq mas’ul aa ee maxa naqti dilatha exeth ee dhurka lagu tegeye okale maxa.\nMarka gebdaxa warabna carintotha ee fokatho ee mel marto, waxa kalo oo chira xathi waxan kusucali sherciga manta aa geska dhambey uu racthen, lava nin ba uxu daley gever iyo wil, wilka uxu geineya skulku geineya primary buu kabixin, secondary bu mari, college buu gein, chamacath ba udhabein. Anaga gebdaxa maxa inti uu wilku marey iney marto maxa loguthithey? Magaraneyo taa iyatha aa, waxan dhoneyna tana iney dactho oo wilasha iyo gebdaxa iney simnathan, waxan dhoneyna wixi muxim caa oo anaga an rabney inan kaxathalno inan nosona gaviso wixi kadiman na aath noo catheyso laakin sheqa an naf lexein inan kuthalno marabno, Assallam aleikum warahmatullahi wabarakuh.\nCom. Nunow: Suga xorta intan kofka kale una cimanin waxath ogatan xorta inan maoni canan katheynin, waxan meshan sucalixi kasugaye maoni iyo fikrath baath diveysan, maoni iyo fikrath na waxa weyan in xatha wala cithin imathey fikrath ba lecithin kakorey wala kutharey inta reportkey kutala. Wixi an lagutharin, wax alala wixi an lagu tharin oo bilkan gazetka kuyala koralka anan kuchirin weli waxath xaq ulethixin inath kortan oo si bayan oo cath aath uu kortan oo aath uso guthbisan guthigan Commissionerka athinko uso mareya ama district co-ordinatorga inta fadiya ama sathaxtha kof olaga thortey districtga oo conferenceka kakeibgeleisa. Si marka lagathothaya xadow reportkas ama shercigan usub lagathotheya, dhath inta kasocthey ee kudexan cariman ba nagadiman ama carimaxan sithan udax mexe sikale lokorey sithan ban rabna iney nokota laakin aniga mas’uliyatheitha manta, magarsana xer an maoni usub kukatho, keliya waxa weyo wixi ina faxmin oo kuchira reportkan ama bilkan ina isi bayaniyo ithin catheyo.\nWa mitha ugu xorey, mitha lavath, inan ithin ogeysiyo wixi koral oo xatha dhiyar garovey iyo waxa sosoctho oo kuogatan mamulki nadhamki sherciga dhib lagu xaveynaye inte bu maraya, se maxa kaso baxey. Marka dhathki sucala weithinaya waxan ithin kacothsanaya inath sucal kukobtan, wayo xathu maoni nokto wan dageisan oo waxva kama dexayo, sucal ayan uu baxthey taxai wan fanin kara, wax alala wixi inta kuyala iyo wixi inu kuyala inkale anath xuvin ooth weithin rabta wax ban kashegi kara laakin xathey nokoto maoni wei cathagtaxai wayo sithu kofka divayo maoni uleyaxai ban aniga na maoni uleyaxai marka muhimki na maraktey fursathi an kutala galney magareyno oo 37\nexeth inan ithin faxansiyo koralkan kormalkisa wayo koralka naftisa wa koral aath uwein weyan inu kofka caxristo oo uu faxma ayu uu baxan yaxai, keliya kothobatha uguwein ama ithin kormaro.\nInyar marka xathi sucalixi xatha laweithiyei wixi sobaxey an wax kashego, kof uguxorey oo yiri divatoyin ba lala kulmeya dhorashatha usub nocan, waxan dhoneya iney administrationka sithu yaxai loo thayo waa maoni waxan kashegayo maleh. Wilki ba wuxu shegey basboratha waxan daxney nadhamka xaulaxa dhowlatha odan lagu fuliyo in shicibka losodoweyo, basborka marku ugu fogatho oo dhathka aath ugafocyaxai in districtga lagabixiyo weye oo kofka districtgas chogo mise district headquarters tega mesha laga cakana oo abixis lagacakana oo dhathkisa uu ciman kara in lagasiyo weye basbor, inu intu Nairobi tega laguma cakano iyo yaa kucakana ladexa macamfaceyso wayo wax cakana in Nairobi uu jogo ba digi karta kolka xorey laakin mesha laga cakaney xathu division yaxai xathu location yaxai va, district bu xos imatha, district inalageyo nadhamki basboratha, divisionka in lageyo nadhamki waraqixi dalashatha oo si saxlan kofki uu kuxeli kara waraquxu uu uu baxan yaxai. Xaqa basborka shicibka Kenya xatha shercigan xatha yala wuxu leyaxai kofka Kenyanka inu basbor xaq uleyaxai in lasiyo, waxti cala waxti uu thono, maxa ila safar kabta keliya xatha laakin sabata uu baxeyso maxa aya lagudixi. Waxa kulethaxai sababta ubaxeya mava baxayiey waxan waye inan xaisto basbor keigi in lagusiyo aya xaq ulethaxai shercigan usub na uxu leyaxai shaqsi walba oo sitheth iyo tovanchir garey, kipande iyo basbor isku si bu xaq uleyaxai, siku malin in lasiyo aya kuxabon.\nMP yasha dhib losocelinaya sucasha wilka weithiyei aath bei uficantaxai, waxtigey kuxirantaxai mise marku saa ubilavo walaso celin kara. Waxan daxney sherciga usub waxtigi barlamanka kofka loo thortey wa iney dafta iney xorta nus damatho, shanty sano lava sano iyo nus kofku marku shaqeynayo oo lobogin oo lacarko inu waxba kofki facitha kaso muqanin aya labixin, wayo kofki in lagusimo waye xorta, inu farsamathi magalatha barta, nadhamki iyo wax logaso kathaye uu barta.\nDhathkisi sithu ula xariri laxa uu barta, xathath tirathith socothka xorey intu\nwadhoyinka Nairobi kala baranaye aya laga yava inavath dimin, xathi kof Nairobi sicakani ama dib isaga usameyan maathama saldigi barlamanka uu Nairobi yaxai.\nLava sano iyo bar waxa lafileya kofka jaxilka kasta iyo waxkasta usan geleinin inu faxmi kara oo dhathkisi dibkothi uu xibna kamith aa maraktey ka keib kathan kara uu xalin kara. Lava sano iyo bar xathey damatey oo kofki facitho lexein aya nadhamki lagusareye laxol geleya marka.\nWaxa kalo laciweythiyei mathax bananka maxakamathaxa Kadhiga, wan fileyna tas, maxakamatha Kadhiga iney mathax bananathan oo sithey thonan iyaga sherciga islamka kufuliyan. Cibnaxas sherciga islamka uu kagathugan yaxai cibnoyinka sherciga kale oo tos ka aa oina kuchirta keibta bicsharatha lava kof oo muslim aa xathi ee thonan iney dhacwathotha ama kes kotha ama ceshiskotha xorey uu markati kanoctho maxakamatha Kadhiga ama Kadhiga uu yaxai kolka xorey contract ukala saxexaya ama intey isgafen dhodhotha ukala bixineya, sherciga awoth buu 38\nuusineya cafiska Kadhiga inu dageisto carinta.\nWaxtigan xathirka caa, commercial cases becshara iyo waxa kuxisabsan ama civil cases madageisan karo Kadhiga. Wuxu keliya kucegyaxai Kadhiga mamulkisa gur iyo furin iyo daxal, kothob kas kale oo civil iyo commercial caseska ayan ugu thareyna oo sherciga usub ugu thareya mamulkotha. Kadhiga maxakamathisa wexei kucegtaxai Kadhis Court of Appeal, maxakamathoyinka kale na wexey kucegyixin Supreme Court. Maxakamatha sare wixi tafsir kuxisabsan oo farir luqa uu kuxisabsan constitution interpretation, fasirka lughatha sherciga kuxisabsan umba tegeysa Supreme Court laakin nadham ala nadhamki kuxisabsan dakan islami caa ama xol islami aa oo Kadhiga xos imaneyso, Kadhis Court of Appeal madafeyso xalkas bei kucegtaxai.\nChief Kadhiga uxu la tharaja yaxai oo sherciga usub ula tharaja kadigeya High Court Judge. Maxakamatha sare xakimka fadiyo iyo Chief Kadhiga isku awoth bei nokoneyan isku jega, Kadhiga districtga chogo na jegethisa uxu kor ugu kici kara ila uu kagaro High Court Judgeka oxa Chief Kadhi. Chief Kadhiga waa inu kof noktha tovan sano Kadhi socaxa ugu yar wa kof Islamic sheria shaxathathisa kava, waxyava fara bathan ba kuxiran. Marka Kadhiga na uxu carkeya mel uu usi kici kara oo kakoreysa oo wax usibaran kara oo dhathal ketha usamen kara inu garo.\nXathu ogyaxai Kadhi nimatha inu ku-retire garenayo ama uu kudimanayo xatha ki xor imatho waxa weye wax uu dhavatha kaso mukanayo malex. Sothonka Kadhi waxa weye aath bei uu yar yixin waa run wei yar yixin laakin laviyotovanka manta tala wei kabathan yixin. Afarti uu sherciga yiri yei kayaranin na wei kabathan yixi, marka sothon aya ugu yaran aa dhowlath fican oo athalath oo musliminta checel xathey imato qoton, lixthan ayei kadigi karan laakin markan firiney, nadhamki districtyatha musliminta aa, sothon Kadhi iney kufilantaxai ban caragney xathi logabathin ee kasi ficantaxai. Maxa yelei melaxa musliminta ee kuyar taxai dor district oo isku dow dow oo afartan afartan kilometar kuchira ayu xal Kadhi isku xein kara.\nGovolatha musliminta ubathan taxai na Kadhi walba district buu xain, govolkotha na Kadhiyasha govolka inta bathan waxa kasamein waxa fadiyan North Eastern iyo Coast, iyo Nairobi melaxa kale ee musliminta kuyara bathan yixi sitha Western aa, govolka uu Kadhi fadiyo oo Kadhiyalka districtka kaso guthba sithi Mumias Butere Muslim bathan bei leyixin mela bathan oo Western aa aya muslimin bathan lethaxai. Melaxas iney distrit Kadhi uu laxatho, melaxa ee kuyar yixi oo district yatha kudow yixin na uu xal Kadhi isku caxan kara dor district.\nRasil malka wadhanka dhathkodan xalo keiviyo xalosimo markan lenaxai, rasimalka wei kuchiran biyaxa oo woviyasha aa. Woviyashan xiran xalaso thayo iyatha na waa fikrath marka laakin madhama National Resourceski dhathkodan xakadaxeyo oo isku sii cathalath nimo xalokeiviyo laleyaxai wax walba aya sogeleya. Biyaxa na waa waxyalaxa nafta dhathka ena kamarmin.\nMitha xananitha xolaxa iyo suqa xolaxa iyo xilib warshatha xolaxa ba, mamulki xathi loo divo dhegmathi districtga, district walba layiratho cathiga ismamul, district warshath sameysan waya ama govol caxan usameysan waya, dor district ba iskabsan karta sherciga tos ban kucatheneyna intaso district iney iskabsan kara oo isla kashan karan carima govolka odan camfacaya oo kamith taxai warshathaxa, ekamith taxai jithathka, ee kamit taxai collegyatha ama jamacathaxa.\nSas augeth mamulkas uxu uyala oo kolka xorey anuchirin dhegmatha, dhegmatha va xathi cawothi lasiyo ee kufulin lexeth, iyatha suq kurathsan oo wadhama kale tegi, iyatha scolarshipyal cilmexetha urathsani, iyatha aya nadhamki ee iskumamuli lexeth xeisata oo gacanta ugu chirta. Districtgi maraktey is mamuli waya oo dhathkisi melen waya na waxa waye edhas isaga bei utala na, district umbey utala marka uxu weithistey saldiga dhowlatha keliya waxa weye mal gelin. Wixi kale oo malgelin dhowlatha kawayo wadhan shisheya ayu cuyeri kara tos oo mal gelin weithisan kara oo camax weithisan kara oo dhecmo caxan ama govol caxan ugu bixin camaxtha, dhowlath na u uu maleyneye.\nFreedom of movement wilka wuxu yiri xaqa kofka uu meshi dhono usafri karo dib ba lagayava iney kento wayo kofka xathu melkale tega dhintisi inu kucamal fail wayo oo maraktey dhathki mesha chogey ee is xilafan xatha waxtigan lajogo va, weichirta freedom of movement nin walba meshu dhono uu usafri kara, mel alala meshath thonto na logging bar kuyala xathath kireysatit oth sexatit kolkatha wath katukan karta, cith dhintatha fara gelin karta malex, xata waxtiga xathirka caa. Marka waxan umaleyni iney xathi an si xalath loo isticmalin oo inta wadhan dhath le intath usafarto burcathnimo iyo tuga nimo iyo dhath aath bobtith athan isku dheyin, cith kufaragelineysa ineyna chirin, navath geliyo iyo becsharath iyo nadham xathath kutegtit, cith kuxorcistagi malaxa, xathath gurya kacibsatit cith maraktey kufara gelineysa malaxa. Dhathka inta bathan dhathka wei checelyixin rasimal kofka keneya laakin kof dib keneya cith rabta malaxa. Xathi caath imaneysith oo dulki dhath intat un cathu aath bobeysith, oo xolixi dhathki in wax logu tala geley logu xilsarey oo dhowlatha kudibtey aath sithath thontit aath uu isticmaleysith wala kuceyrin marka. Dhathka dhegmatha degan xaq bei uu leyixin iney kuturan oo kasaran xathey dhowaltha daxsusato qudetha, dhuga uxu weithiyei sherci bethelka inu damathey iyo inusan damanin, xathu damathey na inan kamith naxai. Kamith xathanan exen sherciga uu damathey xatha garow koralkisi keibti guthiga loo xilsarey, waxa xartey keibti dhatweinaxa iyo barlamanka.\nDhathweinaxa sithan marki xorey ushegney waxtigi xorey intan imaneyne oo an baraujin dhathka kusameynene, waxan dexney, lava cher ayu dhathweinaxa ka keibkathani sherci bethelka, mar waye fikrathisa ayu divan, wan kaso guthbe taa iyatha aa. Marka lavath dhath districtga uu thortey aya kathothi wixi guthiga uu korey oo ama ogolanii ama wax kabetheli, xatha keibtas lavath ban geleina, sitheth iyo lavatanka bishan waxan fileyna inu bilautho, conferenceki dhathweinaxa odan uu isku imaneye shirkas oo dhathweinaxa odan oo wadhanka odan kasoctho inu kathotho laravo sherciga an furney wixi kabethelayo uu kabethelo, wixi uu isku raco na isku raco, wixi isaga na kutharo uu kutharo. 40\nIntas waxa der xathi shercigas bethelathkisa kamith xorta wan naxai oo waa fikrathain wan divaney, kamith na wan caxai oo conference dhath wan cuthoraney, kamith xathanan exein xatha waxtigan aan fadino oo maraktey falathan an kafaloneino Kaman falon lexen. Mitha kale shercigan xathi lameleyo wadhanka odan ayan lacaq naxai oo lasimanaxai, waa marka ugu xorey oo wadhanka dhathka govolka kunol uu lasimnatha dhathka uu dhath weinaxa wadhanka oo uu laxaq noktho, xathu shercigan laxaq kadigo na, ciith kaqathi karta malaxa ila shercig labethelo. Bethelath kisa iney cathagtaxai oo sherciga usub uu cathkeyney wan soo shegney, sas augeth, waxa weye shercigan usub wan kuchiran si ala sithi laguso gocamiyo na bartankan ugu chirna, xuquqthain dhathka odan bei lamith taxai, wax alala wixi xorey xalath kor xorey lagu gelei na, in lataxa oo daqala gar lasiya aye sherciga usub shegeya oo dhathki dhib an uga dacney xormarkotha inan soo garno ama tovan sano kathib ama waxtigei kathatova oo xath iyo cheri uxu districtyatha xormaro ena sameynin wax kaderath aa an sameynaya ilen laag derath analasiyei. Mitha kale wa fikrath uu yiri dhumarka inan barlamanka kuthorano maraktey rali ban kanaxai, intas aya sucalo xata laweithiyei. Sucalo yar oo sathax iyo afar kale xathey chiran oo caath uu kulul aan kathna, sucala na xanokthan na tafadhal maoni yaney nokonin maxa yelei waxti umbey nagasi kathi, just take the last round of questions.\nMohamed O. Maalim: Marka wath makleysan sucali aya lasoyareyo sathax sucaloth ama afar xatha.\nAniga magaceyga wavukoran yaxai Yusuf Ibrahim aya layiratha.\nSucasheytha waxan sucaleya malinki xorey oo xalkan aan fadiney oo maoniga an diveyne Habasweine caxan wexey ee kaxathashey waxa ugu bathna xaga dulka oo cirathen waxan rabna sir sithi xore kulunka nogula dacmi chirey, xathan dulki sathax keib umba lagaso kathey valayiri. Sathaxtha keiboth an kusonoctho keibti dhath weinixi, dhath weinixi mesha dhegan aya iskale dulka iyaga xa ayan fileya sitha iney taxai, marka mathal lacan waxan usokathaneya, maoniga xorta meshan kama makleyo xatha oo malinki maonigas aath gorten buga Habasweine macarkin maonigasath korten mamaklin.\nTan kale, waxa chirta dhath anaga aa oo sitha xatha Wajir district okale oo Eastern Province dhegan sithi Isiolo okale an char lanaxai, kuwa rer Mandera oxo dulkan dhegan ba chira Wajir, marka mawaxan dixi ama kuwa xatha districtga wadh oktixin conflict bathan inu kachirey, marka nin walba meshu dhegan yaxai ma isaga lee yacni macnexetha ma waxa weye. Anaga xatha oo rer Wajir oo degan Isiolo xathama deris laca, mesha an kathegan naxai wan lenaxai miya macnaxa sucasha tas waye Assallam aleikum.\nMaalim Ali Muxumed Adam: Maalim Ali Muxumed Adam. Waxa chirtey inan kaxathlein maonigi xorey skulaxa in lagutharo afsomali iyo af Arabic in skulaxa lagu tharo sifa an wax ufaxanno, xathi lagu tharey waa xeir xathi lagu tharin xathana waxan cothsaneyna in lagu tharo lavathas, lukatha lakorayo, lavathas. Assallam aleikum.\nAbukar Mohamed Osman:\nAbukar Mohamed Osman.\nMeshan waxbathan an\nkamaqleina marka xathalka na sucalka iyo maoniga marka waxa xatha soctha oo xatha macleyna iyo sucalka. Sucal yar an kaba sucalkeiga na waxa waye marka ee dhathki xorteitha cotheyal farabathan oo maonigi kutharin xorta binaathinka in isku xaquq yaxai, kala xaquq na wei yixin. Sababto ee taxai dhathki maonigi kudafey oo sucal kiva dhaye waxa cila eekatey isagu dhathki mesha jogo kudibkavey inu siyaxai. Anaka sherecathan xatha labethelayo daxthethi, xatha manta isu cimato anaka xorta kavil Ajuran layiraxo xorta dib kas an uu kabno aya chirta, xatha layiratho nin walba meshu jogo isaga iskale xathu layiraxa, marka xorta anaga dhathki meshan kudashey oo xaq kulaxain oo xeysanin oo sitha getho fartan okale ayan naxai.\nXatha layiratho marka nin walba meshu jogo isaga iskale xatha layiratho, laag xatha bananka ladivo, abo malaxa xatha layiratho nin walba iska bobeya inta na kudakaki. Aniga sucal keiga waxa waye meshi an kudalaney on xaq kulexen maxaysanin, dibki an kabney wakan, sucalki an kavo waqan, sherciga xathi labethelayo islamka lamith naxai, dibki chira wakana.\nDaud Ismail: Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim. Aniga waxa layiratha Daud Ismail xorta marka xorey maxath ayan uu celineya Commissionka waxbathan ban faxaney onan ogein. Waxan sucalaneya, maadhama oo afartan sano oo Kenya ee disneith ee ithin cathatey in nalagumathey oo xaqa nathi nalothithey oo mathaxna natha ee wax kasocon wayen war mel umasocono war wadhan magosaneino xaqanatha van rabna xaqa natha nalothithey ee cathatey, xathana caath sheqten xoga derath in maraktey district yalka kale kaderathka dhathki lagumathey lasinayo, dhathki saa nayelei na ee dakan yixin oo Kenya wax kadintey iyo wax mel udofey ena chirin, xuquqthi binacathimka na xalasimo layiri oo xathama adhunka marka lafiriyo xatha wadhamaxa ninki wax sameyei oo High Court lakeneyo, dhathki isaga caxa, Commissionerka masamaxey mise na sirag bath lethixin dhambiga ee naga gelen iyo gumathka ee nogesten masi rac iyo maxakamath utala miya chirta mise dhathka isaga uu samaxan yaxai, wa sallam aleikum.\nBishar Barre: Aniga magaceyga waxa weye Bishar Barre waxan sucalaneya on sucal kaqava wixi xorey on koraney ya chira inan majibtotha suganeyne, xathana meshan wixi xorey on koraney, maxelin majibtotha. Malagategei oo malaiska turey manu makan yixin oo xatha kathambey on cimathayen wa mith wan karava majibtetha, wixi xorey an korney waxa kamith caxa in anaka Kenyan aan exeth kashegano, rer North Eastern xathi an naxai anaga magacyna dixi jirey Somali astixin, somaliga exen waxtigan ushegnein inan rer Kenyan oo rer Kenyan isu kabney, xatha na kuthbathaxa kama daxmacleinin, magacyxi waa ithin kaxarey Somali rer Kenyan astixin kama macleynin. Marka xorta iyatha wan karava majibtetha, anaka rer Kenyan ban isu kabna manixin Somali, faida xor dib ee nakutaxai wan karava majibtetha.\nWaxa kalo ciragsan in ani Kenya ka xor navath xeshine aan kabney oo sithi Kenya uhurutha uu katey dhava kashin an waine, waga daxtha an isku babacney oo Kenya amankeina ee daman uu kate oo amankain sas kuso xergeli karin na 42\nee sithi xorey wagi xorey dhowlatha kaxoreyse ee nagu aman geliso, ti iyatha exeth na maxelin majibteha wan karava.\nWaxa kalo oo ciragsan, Kenya kaxor anaka dhath bothow aa oo waxva kaseynin ayei dhowlatha xorey ee shaqa sin chirtey, malagateygei isagan majib karava.\nDhathnimo oo waxva an cokonin in shaqa xeshi an chirin xatha\ncilmaxain jamecath sare xeista shaqa an na xeisanin oo dib kushegani, sitha an kabethelin majibtetha wan karava, xathi laiskathurin wan kabaxey, Assallam aleikum.\nBishar Yusuf: Bishar Yusuf aya laidexa, sucasha aniga an weithineya waxa waye xaga sherciga islamka iyo mith yar oo dulka kuxisabsan lavatha sucaloth oo gagavan wan sogavineya. Sucashan weithinayo waxa waye xaqa sherciga islamka marka lagaxathlaye waxa layiri nin waliva dhintisa free bu uu yaxai, tarbiyatha carurta iyo dhathka Illahi wa kuronyaxi kofkasta cithu mas’ul yaxai inu tarbiyeyo na walaguleyaxai. Waxa chira anaga xathan dhath islam an naxai marka xatha kaso catho wadhanka islamka kubegan yaxai meshan Habaswein okale kaso kath, sherciga islamka wan kudakana hoga laakin divato oo farabathan na waan ugeysana. Mitha sucasha kovath ana weithinayo ona sucal iga caa, kofka dhathka dhinta islamka kuxath guthbo oo magalatha na jogo oo dhathka culumatha ena carkeyan oo tag uu lacyixin shercigan usub makoraya dhathka isaga ee iney dhacweysan karan. Tuseme waxa waye meshan okale sar lagu xirey, geibdixi oo shubka lalacatheyo ooth carkeysa inta ka xor wexeith nin walba xuwu thono ayu samein aya ladixi wax mutubatic bachira, xatha shercigan usub oo xorta lee manosamaxaye dhathka isaga caxa ninka waxas lagu carka in lathacweyo oo maxakamathaxa lageyo manosamaxaya. Sucasha lavatha waxa waye xaga dulka, sucasha waxa waye dhathka waxa nolashegei in wadhanka dhathka iskale iney xaq uleyxin, waxa chira nin walba ba kola layiraxa meshan xatha an chogno Wajir South okale dhath bathan oo Ogaden layiratho aya dulkan thegan, waxachira dhath kale oo jiran laca oo sitha bathan kuso gura waxtiyaxas okale, waxan maklaye basabor okale ayan maklaye. Mawathankas makala xiran yixin oo basabor ba laguso cathi kara miya mise wadhanka wa free oo nin walba meshu rava uu thegi kara, sucashi lavath tas waye wa Assallam aleikum.\nIbrahim Omar: Waxan kusocathli, intan kudalaney, xatha sherci bethel aa chira wax bathan aan chogney, wadhan aan kudalaney on jogney. Wadhanki dhath ba imathey, ani wan sifadiya oo joga wadhanka maleyaxai, aniga iyo ninki igathambeyei oo shaley imathey mawatha dan naxai mise wan kala dan naxai?\nMohammed Sheikh Noor: Aniga waxa ladexa Mohammed Sheikh Noor, sucasheithi xorey waxa weyan shercigi marka labetheleya waxa waye wax an kudakaneine iyo wax ban carkey marka sherciga muxu kaqava wixi xuma oo security government acts oo iska jiren oo an rabney inan maraktey kacaxano marka waxan rava explanation oo section 234 B, which says the following discription of land is public land, section 234 Chapter 11 Article 234 (2) sub-section B which says “the following discription of land is public land, land which the commencement of the constitution was held as an alienated government land in terms of government acts Cap 301. So I want explanation 43\nwhat this government acts Cap 301 is saying, maybe it is the one, which is actually marginalizing us, and after the completion of this constitution and draft, it will still go on like that. Others also raised that.\nThe second question I have why don’t the Kadhis also judge on criminal offences and criminals laws, that is the question I also want to, because the constitution is giving them civil and commercial cases, why cant we give them also criminal cases?\nThe other question I will have is about women representation, we said we will have 210 elected MPs and 90 nominated plus 30 on representational. What if this 210 become women, how will the constitution address if this 210 on assumption that the 210 elected become women, where will the men go now? (end of Tape 2 Side B).\nCom. Nunow: Wuxu kalo oo yiri sucali xorey uu weithiyei Ibrahim waxa kalo kuchira xuquqtha cathamiga oo lagu korey sherciga wei fican yixin laakin wexey uu baxan yixin dakala lagu cofiya wadhanka daqala maraktey kuxabon carimaxa lagu cogiyei inu leyaxai aya loo baxan yaxai buyiri. Wuxu kalo yiri xola daqatatha iney ka keib katan nadhamki districtga, sithey uu keibkathanayan mashegin, village oo dhemo kumaceka waxa weye meshas loyakana location iyo sub-location. Keib location sub-location odan iyo keibab locationyatha kamith caa aya geleya village Councilka, kathib wixi locationka kaso xarey iyo division yalka waxa waye location Council, kathib na district Council Kadhib na provincka marka nadhamki lagu fulin laxa iyatha na legislation aye sugeisa laakin xola daqatatha waxan fileyna anywhere any level upto the division, division marka lagu leyaxai maxa division centerga, waa the entire administrative areaga iyo baketha iyo dheganki odan ba.\nKasab waye marka iney kakeibkatan weli waxan lenaxai village Councilka nadhamka thorashatha ama ee mathax kulaso bixin laxayen ama cotheynimatha xacisticmalan ama dhorasha xarithan na iyaga aya gocamineyei laguma kasbayo iney kura rithan kasab maxa, xathey dexan cotheyasheni ba namamuli cotheyasha lamagacavi, magyathotha laso guthbini wala sharciyeni afar afar sano, xatha sithan jogo wala betheli xathan.\nAfrican customary law, wuchira laakin waa dakan, mathama uu dakan yaxai na xathi layiratho dakanki xala sharciyeyo cuxu nokoneya ila qonton kavil aya mil walba xithi iyo dakan kisa xathi loo sharciyeyo cuxu noqoneya kole sharci uu buxineya. Xase yeshei lama dixi karo kothobkas shercigas afrikanka ayu kuxiran yaxai laakin iyago laiskuso kabtei oo isku thuvan African customary law caxan, uxu kamith yaxai sherciyatha wadhanka laga cisticmaleyo xatha. Sources of law marka lasameynayo, kan ugu xorey constitutionka, kan kale wa sherciga barlamanka soo thechiyei, kan kale waa Islamic system, customary law na wa source of law ila xatha waxtiga chogo oo xathi laga baxtho waxa xalath uu tego tafsirkisa waa loo isticmali kara.\nSource of fund to the devolved government, dhowlatha xosey an dexney xalasameyo mesha ee karash ee kaxeli lexeth. 44\nKarashka manan dixin iyaga xais karash gareyan, wei gari dhonta barlamanka na kalasareya iyo dhowlatha melaxa is mamuli karan oo laacta fulan taxai iyo melaxa kale laakin waxan lenaxai, laagta dhowlatha ee sineyso sathax keiboth ba lokala goin, keib waye wax keibta ugu xorey waxa waye sathax mel marki lacta mel lodigo mel kamith caa waxa losineya iyatha oo dulki iyo loo isticmaleya cthathi, dulka cathathisa iyo dhathka cathathisa.\ngeography will be one dissemination of fast third distribution to devolve government.\nKeibta lavath waxa si siman ba losini districtyatha odan wei kasinani. The second portion will be equal distribution. Keibta sathaxa na waxa weye districtyatha marginalized ee keli ba lasinin, sitha district yatha kale kuso garan, waxa kalo taa lasocotha Ibrahim wuxu weithiye marginalized dismissal kisa, waxa marginalized waxan uu malein xathava wei iska cathata ina gar loo shegeinin inta bathan several government records bei kutala, ensi ba wax loo sa ba chira district yatha maraktey dibka bathan oo noloshetha cathagtaxai wax yala bathan oo lagu cokonsan karo aya chira district yatha an xor marin oo xor marka wadhanka xore kaxaren laakin xathana barlamanka cathein oo so sari iyaga na.\nFreedom of movementiga wa meshu kuchira xathava uu yala xathi cathan mesha tegeinin xaq bath ulethaxai mel walba inath uu safri kartit oo wax kuyelato xathi dhathki mesha jogo anath dib uu keneynin. Dhathka mesha jogo xathath dib uu kento wei iskaga farxein karan. Dhathka dhorashatha daca yan barlamanka loo thoranin waxa waye matter of election Commission wa procedures for electionka iyo waxas xathi ee kareveyan xathi kale laakin waa within the rights of the individual still xathii uu lo thorto mel.\nMarginalized area is minorities’ wati an xatha shegei, Councilyasha xatha dhotha dhathka mesha joga aya gocamini inta bathan, Electoral Commission na gacan bei sini laakin dhaka mesha jogo oo meshan ee xamili karta ee sosari, xathava wala usaminaye wala faxamiyei dhowrashan dhambey oo xatha lageleyo xathi shercigan manta yala lagu gelo, dhath yar ba Councilka loo thoraneya. Laakin dhowlatha usbu on daxney xalasameyo oo sherciga usub an kadaxney xalasameyo on rabna dhowrashoyinka dhambey lagu gelo, Councilayasha xadhatha waxa shegeya dhathka iyaga caa, dhathka uu dhoneya inta rux cu cathiga karta aya garaneya.\nSeparation of duties shaqatu kavan laxa Mp ga shaqatha Councilka uu kavan laxa iyaga na waxa weyan xol anan ka daxgelin lakin mith walba wuxu leyaxai specific duties, overlap weichiren barkoth laakin wa xathan in losameya legal position oo maraktey xoshotha ee kukala keibtaman.\nThe rest I think are recommendations, which are okay. Yusuf wuxu yiri compensations iyo development infrastructure, that is true iyatha na waa suggestion. Voterska iyo xathathotha manan dixin sherciga xatha yala manta maistic maleya wadhanka dhowrasha constituenciga lasameynayo wexey kuxirantaxai inta kof oo meshi iyatha kunol iyo xathu Electoral Commissionka dhono uuxu kalo oo daxgelin kara, intaso shei ba lakorey marka. Uxu tax gelin kara 45\ncathatha dulka, cuxu taxgelin kara xormarka dulka isga caa, uxu tax gelin kara intaso shei laakin keibabka waxa loga digey kof siman wax layiratho wax ugathan kara ama usan kathaneynin xathu thono.\nSherciga usub waxan dexney, constituenciga sameskisa wuxu kuxiran yaxai intaso shei oo dan uska oo isku dhuvan macal dhathka uu kujiro. Mesha kolka xorey layirathey Electoral Commission shall determine Electoral boundaries by way of the population number of people there and may consider one or a number of the following. That is what reads, but in the new constitution we propose that will be frased and read, that the Electoral Commission in determining Electoral boundaries will take into account the following:•\nGeographical spread of the area,\nAreas culture, a number of things.\nSo we have gone a step further actually and brought population as only one of the determinar, initially it was the co-determinar and it is only the electoral Commission wide use determination that is used to others. Recall plot MPs boqol iyo sothon waxa loyiri si anan kofki dacey oo dhorashatha kadacey xathu kofkan uu yiratho wan kukathi maraktey vote of no confidence, very easy vey nokonyesa xata boqolki va sothon an lenaxai wa boqolki va sothon dhath ugu rithey ninka isaga ee maxa dhathki dhowrashatha jirathey ruxisa kale, xathan Dujis kataganaxai, oo igu rithin ooth bixin laakin oth bixin ath kofki ilatagan ubixisey aniga imaso celin karto barlamanka kale. Keivaxa dhore, mesha an katagna wath dhoratey xaa laakin athiga igumarithin marka dhorashatha ritheysey, kof walba oo kuraxa rithaya nambar kisa magacisa uu koranyaxai, dhathka iyaga caxa marka layiratho MP ban so celin rabna inti rux oo urithey, aya magacotha laso dhavici laso korey, iyaga inath rathisith weye marka, boqolki va sothon ee xesho mitha xathey tovan kun ugu rithtey sathax kun oo iyaga kamith aa iney xesho aya larava oo kofki kusocelisa oo mithkale kuthorata. Si dhathki macarithka kucaxan kucaxa kofkan ena kuso celinin ila kofkan inu xelo meiravin xaso celiyo xathi layiratho wei socelineyan tos.\nDhumarka xaq farabathan ba lasiyei uma maleynayi waxan umalein xaq bathan oo kamacna umba losoceliye wa markatey walaga thothi kara. Appointmentiga cabinet ka waziratha waxan daxney xalaga magacavo dhath an barlaman kuchirin, dhath wax garath caa oo wizaratha cilmigetha kava oo wexey ubaxan taxai garaneya on barlaman kuchirin, tas oo lava shei savavishei inu marna dhathki gava xathu wazir wadhanka odan dhacath uyaxai iyo inu dhath wadhankisa dhathka kale intu so daca oo malki usamen laxa uu inta dhathki thorto uu cothsigi rathsatho. Mela bathan aya waxa chirta wadhanka kamith caa oo lamitha lasameyei geleitha laguwaro ila gari mamaro va, tothovatha malin ayu gariga mari, geleitha iskaga xorten jithathki five ki iyo garabka xuma oo xola 46\ndakatatha oo xolaxa kacavi, malkas maxa malki lagu tala gelei distriga isaga aa, wadhanka odan ba lagu tala gelei wazirka mesha kayimathey meshu uxu geyei marka.\nDivatoyinka waxa loga guthbi kara ninka wazirka inu nokonin kof MP aa oo kof dhathka dhorasha weithini kara usan nokonin, sii uu dhathki si dhacath caa oo siman oo ugu shaqeyo. Wan kuracsan naxai Hassan Osman sucashan uu yiri xalaguso koro bugta lathavacayo wax dhathka xithi iyo dakan kisa tusaya okala sithi somalitha okale uxu yiri sawiratha xalaguso koro sawiratha xalaguso tharo dhumar bui bui kava ama gel sawir kisa iyo waxas si ee dhathka xola daqatatha ee kucakonsathan iney waxan iyaga vaa ee keib kuleyixin.\nWe will take another series of questions, please be precise ask one question not a series of questions, look at your list see the most important question to you and ask. Kofki sucal weithineya sucasha kugu muximsan weithi sitha dhathka kale ee nafas uu kuxelan xacaxrinin dor sucaloth.\nAbdillahi: Mr. Commissioner, let me first of all comment, it is a comment from what you have just said. You said somebody can be returned on a vote of no confidence by those who elected him and there is no way and there is no way you can know those who elected you as long as you are rejected in this constituency I cannot be sure whether she elected me or you elected me, so that is a comment on what you have just said and then I just wanted to know what your draft constitution has as far as the powers of the President is concerned because as we are right now the Parliament itself is one man show, and then I heard you saying that 15 cabinet ministers will not be elected that will even give him more powers and we are already fed up.\nCom. Nunow: (inaudible)\nAbdillahi: Okay, right what I was saying is I think we require, we don’t know how much, I am trying to balance, what I was saying is we are already fed up with the power of the President and then saying that there will be 15 ministers, we assume some of us that it is the President who will appoint those ministers, I mean they will be in his pocket so can you tell us what the draft constitution says about the power of the presidency and also you talked of Commission all these Commission have always been set by the President and their findings have never been released so the whole of Kenyans problems I think devolves around the presidency and his powers, can you be clear on that please?\nSimon M. Njonjo: My name is Simon M. Njonjo mkaazi wa hapa Garissa. Kwanza ni kushukuru Commissioners kwa kazi ambayo mumefanya ile pesa ambazo za Kenya zimetumika katika hiyo kazi na pahali mnatoka ni mbali na pahali ambapo imebaki ni pagumu zaidi kulingana na ule muelekeo tuko nao. Mumesema ya kwamba ma ministers watakuwa nje mbali na wale ambao wamechaguliwa katika Bunge, ningetaka kujuwa kama kutakuwa na board ya ku-access ama ku-access hawa watu, censorship ili tuangalie tusije tukaweka ndani watu ambao waliiba zamani, walifanya mambo mabaya zamani, walikuwa na kesi mbaya zamani. 47\nYa pili, mumeweka Central Bank of Kenya katika hii constitution na imeeleza vizuri lakini sikuona mahali ambapo pameongea habari ya sarafu ya Kenya itakuwa na picha ya nani maana enzi mbili zinaenda kwisha ilikuwa na watu, tungetaka kujuwa kama inaweza kuwekwa picha moja kama ni ya ngamia, mbuzi ama ngombe.\nTa tatu na ya mwisho, ni kuwa shukuru nikilinganisha katiba hii na ile ya zamani lugha ni sanifu inaeleweka na kila mtu na ningeomba ikitoka kama Mwenyezi Mungu atakubalia itoke iwekwe katika Bookshop, libraries so that each and every person can be accessible to it. Thank you very much.\nAbdillahi Abdi: Thank you very much mimi ninaitwa Abdillahi Abdi, I think I am clear na I will first congratulate the Commissioners for the good job they have done, I think it is a good job and we are happy. I just want to make a querry on the, I just to get some clarification on the area of the district, location and village Council, specifically to the Somalis, I think we must accept the fact that we are very calamistic community and we have a lot of clan interest in our leadership. Before the colonial government we used to have the Somali leadership structure where we had a King and his deputies and so forth, it doesn’t exist any more and we have done away with that system. I don’t know how we can intergrate that leadership structure that used to exist which has been of course that used to exist which has been of course very useful to us and which we respected and this was one of the new constitution where we have got leadership at the locational level and the village level and at the district level.\nI think there is need for us at least ot harmonize and I will advocate and possibly propose of course you said we are not collecting views, I am sorry but I think we should encourage the leadership structure of the Somali community to be brought back so that we can retain harmony as it is now, for example this district has three tribes or three clans and unless there is some agreement on who should be what, I think there is likely to be a lot of tension and I think the constitution is supposed to create some sort of harmony not tension, that is one and then there is a question on an area where you said every adult will be responsible for any child especially when they encounter children taking hard drugs, I don’t know, does the law provide because this days there is what we call too much freedom , that everybody has freedom to do, everybody has a freedom to be naked or to be dressed the way he wants. Even the children have freedom, there is a lot of talk about the children’s right, how does somebody approach a situation where a child is taking hard drugs, you are not the immediate parents but you get concerned, how do you get address that issue and then the last one is about the issue of two Commissioners in the judicial system for the muslim community, we said one is a woman and one is a man. I will propose that we have two men for that lot instead of having a woman because it is not provided for even in the Islamic faith, a woman taking such a very high responsibility because this is a matter of faith and a matter of law and I think there is no provision where a woman can be a Chief Justice for the Muslims for take such a very sensitive position. I will propose that we have two men Islamic scholars in the Commission not even somebody who is secularly educated, somebody who can combine both, who has some good knowledge of the Islamic faith and who is well educated in the other area, thank you. 48\nCom. Nunow: Muda imekwisha imeyoyoma, I will now be selective I will have to leave out some questions because of time. Abdi Adan Mohammed: Thank you Bwana Commissioner my name is Abdi Adan Mohammed. I think the last time when you here we had suggested so many points I am going back to the side of Kadhis, I am asking a question because you have said that according to the constitution of Kenya before, you used the laws of the Prince of Zanzibar according to the 1969 in the Parliament when they made the Islamic laws in Kenya. You said that during those period we don’t have rights we Muslims so you see we have been pressured but now we have time according to the way now your Excellency work, you have put us in this constitution, now islam can use our law according like a magistrate that is a good but the way I am seeing according to the way that you say that according to Islamic religion woman does not have a right like a man so that inside of we muslims we don’ t say that we shall not give them their rights but what I am saying is, wherever they will work they have to be given priviledge to wear their Islamic dress, I am also asking a question that those police officers who are muslim ladies they are used to wearing trousers and even they will not put the dress properly, so we are opposing that one.\nI have not heard you saying that we dissolve administration through the constitution, so what we are asking the administration will go far from the election as according to the views we have expressed during your hearings. So what I am asking is, administration will go far from the elections so that the place I am seeing that they say we have dissolved them but they will be employed, chiefs and district Commissioners and provincial, we don’t want them to be employed because they will rig the elections we don’t want them, we want free and fair elections thank you.\nCom. Nunow: Kuna wangapi wanaona wasouliza swali yao hawatalala leo? Hamtalalal leo msipouliza swali? Okay I will take them in this order one, two, three, okay anza na huyu.\nAbdirashi M. Ali: Mine is just short because of the time, my name is Abdirashid Mohammed Ali and I am a constitutional activist from the year 1992 as very many around who know me like that. My first question is the question the point of idle land and taxation and its relation to us because the constitution is not very clear because here we have a lot of idle land, we have a lot of land in North Eastern and that taxation and how it can relate to us. The other one is the 90 new MPs, this nomination of parties who will be coming in because the constitution here somebody can vie and the constitution is not very clear whereby somebody can contest on a party ticket fail and again the same party can nominate the failure and take him to Parliament, there is no criteria that people who vie again can be nominated by the party or so.\nThe other thing is the marginalizing factor which my friends have talked about that that should also be explained and who are the marginalized group in the society and the equity factor in judicial system like the Kadhi because now we have equity affecting the Islamic law, the Kadhis and the administration like that and that we can appoint a woman as a Judge as a Chief Kadhi and that kind of things. Whether these things can be related to the Islamic law and how those people can be appointed, thank you 49\nHussein Abdikadir: My name is Hussein Abdikadir. I will like to have some clarifications about the citizenship, you stated in the new constitution that if a Kenyan citizen marries a foreign spouse has the right be a Kenyan citizen. I am asking is this foreigner eligible to the rights of the other Kenyan like maybe running for presidency or an MP or something of that kind thank you.\nKibwi Abdikarim: My names are Kibwi Abdikarim. Shida yangu ni kunasemekana an MP can be recalled akiingia halafu citizen wale walim-elect they can have around 30% signatures, sasa assume mimi na huyu mzee tunasimamia Dujis, mimi ninamshinda na 70% yeye anapata 30% sasa badala ya kuenda kortini si atatafuta ile 30% alishinda naye mpaka ahakikishe amepeleka kwa Speaker ndiyo nitolewe kwa Parliament, he can bulldoze using the 30% he got when I got 70% to ask me recalled back from Parliament. Why don’t you make it iwe the percentage I used to get in Parliament should be used to recall the, I don’t know you said there should not be suggestions but I want to try to give solutions to my own question.\nProblem number two, I am sorry I have nothing against women lakini hata mimi nitasikizana na mtu mwingine hapa alisema wanawake wamepatiwa so many rights, mbona kwa National Council kuwe na about 30 appointed women just electing women only. I will suggest tufanye kitu kama Uganda where we have some constituencies without boundaries, kama the youth they have a representative, kitu kama walimu nitampeleka mtu kama Nganga, Adongo, Atwoli, mtu wa COTU ama Francis Nganga representing the teachers ama kitu kama wanawake wawe represented as groups but not just women, that is for the 30 women people who are supposed to be in Parliament.\nThe other problem I have is this issue of citizenship, assume I am from Pakistan or Uganda then I marry a Kenyan woman, after about three years nimepata citizenship ya Kenya tayari and then I decide to divorce the women, hii citizenship yangu itadanganywa because I could have married this woman ndiyo nipate citizenship, saa zingine hata ninaweza kumlipa nimuambie tukae tu miaka mitatu nipate hii citizenship halafu wewe tunaweza kuwachana after that.\nAnd finally, I have nothing against this constitution infact it has some very good things that were not in the previous constitution but there is a problem on the powers of the Prime Minister and the President. Could you be creating a weak government like the system we have been seeing in India, Italy, Japan, this super powers where some government actually have existed for less than a week, you know what is happening in Inida right now, there is a situation where we have a Parliament with about five retired former Prime Ministers thank you.\nAdan Bille Hassan: Mimi ninaitwa Adan Bille Hassan, ninauliza swali mambo ya persons with disability. Nilisikia mkisema kunayo viti tisaini ambapo si ile imechaguliwa na waBunge ambayo tisaini wanachama wanachaguwa na huko mlisema mmoja atakuwa mwanaume na mwingine mwanamke na sijasikia hata moja, mmoja atakuwa disabled, moja atakuwa mwanaume na 50\nmwingine mwanamke na kitu kama hiyo. Kwa hivyo ninaona kama disability haikupatiwa priority ama haikuhusishwa katika uongozi, kwa hivyo ningesema hapo persons with disability at least wawe na mahali watakuwa na viongozi wao katika hiyo.\nSwali la pili, tulisema mawaziri kumi na tano ambao watachaguliwa na wananchi, hao watu kumi na tano ni nani atawachaguwa? Huyo MP ambaye tumechaguwa kama kwa mfano, Dujis atakuwa MP peke yake ama kuna mahali atapewa kiserekali ili awe na heshima kubwa kuliko vile MP ako sasa, ni hayo tu.\nAli Noor Aden: Thank you very much Mr. Commissioner. My names are Ali Noor Aden my question is about disabled communities in Kenya. I have heard you reading what you have done as a review Commission on the same but when I go back, disabled community in Kenya are diverse we have to mention but a few, we have those who are physically handicapped, those who are mentally retarded, those who have hearing impaired problems and those who have got visual problems. And as you read that you wanted to consider how they can be assisted in the coming constitution that is now under review, now this people need different skills, attention and different education and what I may ask as a question is that how do you cater, you have talked of disabled but did you put under a different heading how you can be able to assist them so that they can be useful in this society and they can assist themselves in future thank you very much.\nCom. Nunow: (inaudible), kof sucal weithini rava maithin kuchira? Maya. (inaudible)\nPaul Thuo: My name is Paul Thuo, the new draft has outlined that the government of Kenya that is good will subsidize all levels of education and we appreciate that. Now my concern is will the same be done to other areas say transport sector whereby we shall have something like government service vehicle instead of public service vehicle, which will take care of everybody including the able bodied people and the handicapped one?\nFarah Abdinoor: Assallam Aleikum. My name is Farah thank you Mr. Commissioner and a job well done. I know you have come all the way to do this marvelous job, my main point is that we have sighted corruption as the main problem to the current government of Kenya and you have pointed two places whereby when you talked about it, you had a problem from the Judges in Kenya, that is the retirement of Judges under the age of 65 and their job, have you indicated in any place whereby corruption will be wiped out in the new constitution and we came to realize that the judges in Kenya are the most corrupt people in the offices and they are the people entitled to do justice to the people. is there any place whereby you have pointed that all judges should be relieved of their duties and they should go for new job clarification again?\nMy second point still concerns corruption, as far as you know that corruption is the most problematic part of this country, the police forces are the most corrupt people. They are the people we depend on and if you know your case is not going to be heard very well by the police and you are sure that at the end of the day, the complainant is the looser simply because you have not parted with the police officer, a case in point whereby a traffic officer was caught in the TV taking money from the public, 51\nthe prosecutor who was prosecuting was saying that, we don’t have any evidence or we don’t have any claims from the community or the people who have been mishandled so we cannot take the person to the court, is there any suggestion whereby you have quoted in the constitution that the current police force are going to be derailed from their jobs? Thank you very much.\nCom. Nunow: Okay, wacha nijaribu ku-avoid kuingia lugha mbili nitazungumza kwa Kiswahili sasa nafikiri itakuwa ya kati kati, kuna mtu haelewi Kiswahili? Maswali yameuliza kule kumchagua mwana Bunge na kumrudisha baadaye, kunasemekana kutajulikana vipi yule ulimchaguwa. Lakini tujuwe kama katiba ikisema kwamba kule kuweza kumrudisha mtu ni wale tu wamemchaguwa lazima kuwe na jinsi ya kujuwa ni nani amemchaguwa nani, iwe kwa ballot paper ama kwa njia nyingine. Lazima kuwe na njia fulani ya kutambuwa ili kutumia kumrudisha yule iwe tu anamrudisha na wale ambao walimchaguwa, uwezo wa Rais imepunguzwa sana, jinsi tunavyoandika kwa katiba mpya tunasema Rais mwanzo atakuwa Commander in Chief wa majeshi, na atakuwa anamtaja anamfanya appointment ya Prime Minsiter.\nKisha Prime Minister ndiye atachaguwa mawaziri na ma naibu ya mawaziri, lakini si yeye tu anachuwa ndiyo iishie pale, atachaguwa kisha ije kwa Bunge, Bunge iangalie na iamue mpaka ma shahada ya kila mmoja wao na ujuzi yake ijulikane na ije kwa Bunge.\nRais atakuwa yeye ndiyo ana-appoint ma Commissioner lakini haya Commissioner na yeyote ambaye atakuwa ametajwa kwa mwanachama wa Commission fulani mpaka ije kwa Bunge na kwa shughuli za Commission zote, zitakuwa zinaenda kwa Bunge ya kwanza National Council. Bunge mpya, Bunge ambayo ahitegemei machama, haitegemeii ma constituencies, itakuwa ni wajumbe ambao wamechaguliwa kutoka wilaya na kutoka mikoa wakiwa wa kike, hao wajumbe mia moja ndiyo wataamua credentials ya appointment or appointees kwa Commission. Watajuwa kama yule amechagua mahali fulani ama ametajwa kuwa mwanachama mahali fulani anafaa kuwa kule.\nKuhusu pesa na picha ya Rais kwenye pesa, kweli haifai pesa iwe na picha ya mtu yeyote lakini hiyo hatukuiweka kwenye katiba, tumeweka kwa recommendations na compendian ya legislation ambayo kwa sababu tulipotayaraisha hii, tuna list ingine ambayo inasema, hayo ndiyo yale legislation ambayo yatakiwa kupatia hii katiba muongozo ya muelekeo ya kutumiwa na wananchi.\nKwa hivyo ninatumaini kwamba ikiwa hii katiba kitakuwa kimechukuliwa, pesa yeyote ambayo itatengenezwa baadaye haitakuwa na picha ya mtu yeyote na lazima iwe na kitu ambacho ni cha kitaifa, iwe ni mlima, mifugo, mimea, au mambo fulani ambayo mwananchi akiangalia anasema hii inatambulika na nchi tulani.\nHiyo nyingine ni recommendation, kule kujuwa boundaries ya Council na tradional leadership ya communities. Nafikiri kama kila communities watapewa jinsi ya kujiongoza wenyewe wakitumia wilaya, wana budi kutumia jambo lolote ile itawaridhisha 52\nuongozo wao na kiongozi yeyote ambaye atakuwa anafaa ama nidhamu fulani ambayo inafaa itakuwa inaweza kutumika na inaweza kutumiwa na wilaya fulani.\nKuna mtu aliuliza swali kuhusu wanawake wakiwa wameketi kwenye Judicial Service Commission kwamba tulisema kutakuwa na waislamu wawili. Mwanzao Judicial Service Commission itapanuliwa kwa wakati huu ina mawakili tu na watu wa kisheria lakini tunasema kuwe na watu wanne ambao si mawakili kabisa na ambao hawajasome sheria ambao kama ni ma engineer kama ni watu wengine ma linguistic, watu wengine aina tofauti tofauti, waweze kama mawakili watakuwa wametiwa wazimu na ile katiba, waweze kusuluhishwa na watu ambao hawajapata hiyo shidha ya kiwakili.\nNa tunasema katika hiyo Tume, kuwe na watu wawili Waislamu Chief Kadhi na mwanamke ambaye amesoma sheria ya Kiislamu ambaye anafahamu nidhamu ya kazi. Nafikiri hamna jambo lolote katika dini ya Kiislamu kinachomnyima mwanamke kuchukuwa muongozo fulani, tulipata nchi za Kiislamu wakiwa na Prime Minister Muislamu mwanamke lakini tunajuwa kwa Kiislamu mwanamke hawezi kuwa Kadhi. Hiyo inajulikana wazi, lakini kule kwenye tume ambalo litakuwa linatumia taifa nzima, mwanamke Muislamu anaweza kuketi na haikatazwi na dini na akikaa huko nafikiri itakuwa inalete manufaa zaidi kwa Waislamu kwa sababu sii wanaume peke yao ambao pengine wanawezakuamua tu waone tu ni kitu moja ya kiume, wakiwa wanatumia macho mawili yote ya kiume na ya kike manufaa kitakuwa zaidi.\nKuhusu ardhi ambaye haitumiki na kule kutia hiyo ardhi kodi, kuchukuwa ushuru kwa hiyo ardhi ni ardhi ya mtu binafsi kama una acre elfu moja na hutumii utalipa ushuru lakini trustland ambaye ni ardhi ya community nzima sio idle land, idle land inaamuliwa kutoka ardhi ya binafsi. Mtu ambaye either ana free hold title ama leasehold title hiyo ndiyo ardhi ya mtu anafaa kutumia.\nViti tisaini tulisema hawa watachaguliwa na majina yao itapeanwa kabla ya uchaguzi, kwa hivyo hakuna namna aliyekosa uchaguzi wa Bunge anaweza kuingia kwa hiyo list, kwa sababu hiyo list itakuwa imetungwa hata kabla ya nomination ya vyama. Wale ambao watakuwa wameandikwa pale hawatatetea kiti yeyote, wakose kwa laini ya chama ama wapate.\nTunasema pia, hatukusema Kadhis wawe wanawake wa Kiislamu, hawataweza. Tunasema atakuwa na mfanyikazi katika ofisi ya Kadhi ambaye jukumu lake ni kuwahudumia wanawake ambao wakati mwingi hawawezi kueleza shida yao kikamilifu kwa mwaname. Hawa hawana ujuzi ya kidini, mtu ambaye anafahamu Islamic sheria amesoma masomo ya Kiislamu ambaye kama si mwanamke angekuwa Kadhi hata, huyo ndiye anafaa kuwa huko na asikize matatizo ambaye hata anaweza kuweka uamuzi wake kama angekuwa na nafasi kwa kidini, kwa vile hana nafasi kwa hivyo ataandika ampatie Kadhi wa kiume na Kadhi ndiye ataamua.\nNafikiri mara nyingi wanawake wanakabiliwa na shida ambayo hawawezi kumueleza mwanamme. Kuna vitu vingi vinatendeka nyuma ya curtain huko ndani na mwanamke anaweza kumuelza mwanamke mwanzake mambo yote kwa hivyo, wakati Kadhi 53\natakuwa anaamua anamua kwa kujuwa na kutokana na maandishi ile ilifanywa.\nIlisemekana citizenship mwanaume akioa mwanamke wa Kenya na baada ya kupata, tunasema kwanza lazima wawe wameishi nchi miaka miwili kabla hawajafanya application ya kupewa citizenship. Lakini ilisemwa kama atapata citizenship na atamuacha siatakuwa amepata approve ametumia yule mwanamke kwa kupata citizenship. Nafikiri siwengi watafanya hivyo, nchi ambazo zimeendelea na kuna rasilmali nyingi, kazi nyingi, wana hiyo plot, ukiwa mwanaume uende America ambaye ni nchi tajiri zaidi katika ulimwengu baada ya kukaa hiyo nchi miaka miwili, utapatiwa nationality kama mke wako aki-apply (end of Tape 3 side A). Pengine yule atatumia, ni wachache tu kuna wale watatumia kuuza drugs ama silaha lakini ni wachache. Kwa hivyo ninafikiri inawezakuchunguzwa na si vizuri kunyima wengi nafasi kwa sababu ya ualifu mbaya ambayo inatokana na wachache.\nPercentage ya mtu kuchaguliwa kuwe ni percentage ile itatumika kumuondoa nafikiri pia ni maoni na ninafikiri wana-delegates wanasikia. Citizenship ya kuoza nimeshasema, disabilities na hayo 90 seats haikusemwa lakini kule nidhamu ambayo tunawekea wale ambao wanapeana hiyo list, vyama vya kisiasa tunasema hawa watu wawe wakionyesha kila njia ya kitaifa. Hawa watu ambao wanapeana majina tisaini, kuwe mtu wa kwanza kama ni mwanamke wa pili awe ni mwanaume na wawe disabled wako ndani, minorities kama El-Molo na Ogiek, kuwe na watu tofauti kama watu wa kidini, watu wa trade unions, watu wa vyama tofauti tofauti ya kitaifa na watu wa NGOs. Kuwe ni list ambayo chama inapeana, Electoral Commission iwe na conditions na hiyo conditions moja yao baada ya kuwa mwanaume na kuwa mwanamke ni wa disabled, baada ya disabled ni minority na marginalized.\nDivisions, Provinces haya yote itakuwa imewekwa pengine hawatakuwa wametokeza wengi vile lakini\nhawatakosa lazima watakuwa katika kila list ya watu kumi ya kila chama kutakuwa na wasiojiweza.\nCabinet itakuwa ina appointiwa na Prime Minister. MP kama mtu amechaguliwa kama Mjumbe atakuwa MP peke yake kwa sababu tulisema cabinet, Bwana waziri na ma naibu wa waziri watakuwa wametajwa kutoka professionals nje ya Bunge.\nJinsi ya kusaidia kila category ya disabled hatukuingilia lakini tuliachia legislation hiyo, sisi tunasema tu wasiojiweza wapewe ABCD, wawe katika kila chama cha kiserikali, wawe kwa serikali, ihakikishwe ya kwamba citizenship yao ni proper. Sala imeanza, government services in transport hiyo pia ni maoni kwa Paul. Corruption lazima imalizwe na jinsi ya kumaliza nafikiri kama tutaweka kwa katiba itamalizwa mpaka wakati huu haikuwa kwa katiba lakini ni jambo ambalo limeangamiza hii nchi sana.\nSasa nitaomba radhi tusimamishe hapa, ninashukuru nyote kwa kuutia wakatia na kufika wakati huu nitampatia microphone District Co-ordinator atumalizie kama kuna matangazo halafu tupate mtu wa kutuombea.\nMohammed O. Maalim: Yangu ni kuhusu hii barua, mtu alikuwa anazungusha hii barua inayosema, katiba mpya ni nuru ya Kenya, NEP maisha mpya maisha mapya. We say yes to the draft constitution but totally no to the handpicked delegates who will represent us to the National Conference, we missed out the Lancaster Conference we are not prepared for a repeat in 54\n2002. We demand transparent, genuine and enlightened representation at the Conference.\nMwenye kuandika hii barua, kwanza kila mtu alipatiwa nafasi ya ku-apply hiyo delegates. Kulikuwa na nafasi tatu, moja ni women rep na wawili wengine, sasa nafikiri watu kama ishirini tatu wali-apply na Electoral College ilikuwa County Council, County Council vile mnajuwa are real representatives of the District na hawa ni representatives wetu kabisa na hawa walipatiwa jukumu ya ku-elect hawa watu.\nSasa vile niliwaambia wakati tulikuwa tunaanza hii kikao, wale delegates wetu wako hapa wale watatu niliwa-introduce wako hapa sasa na sisi, sasa huyu mtu ambaye anaandika hii barua yeye mwenyewe alikuja kwangu ninamkumbuka vizuri, nilimpatia nomination paper mpaka wa sasa hakurudisha nomination paper yake, sasa analaumu nani jameni? Okay, sasa hiyo barua mambo yake ni hivyo.\nSimon M. Njonjo: Basi tutaomba kwa dini ya Kikristo. Mungu Mwenyezi tunakushuru kwa yale yote ambaye Mungu umetufanyia siku ya leo Mungu Baba, tunajuwa yote Mungu Baba ninaweka katika mikononi katika Commissioner Mungu Baba ya kuondesha hii kazi Mungu Baba ya Kenya. Kenya Mungu Baba iko katika shimo na hii katiba ndiyo itakayotoa Kenya shimo Mungu Baba. Ninaomba haya yote kwa Mungu wetu asante sana. AMEN.\nThe meeting ended at 1:12PM. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&\nReport "CONSTITUTION OF KENYA REVIEW COMMISSION"