[ML News] DeepMind fails to get independence from Google
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DeepMind has reportedly failed to negotiate for greater independence from Google/Alphabet. While DeepMind wanted to set up a non-profit-like structure, Google seems to go for the opposite approach and seek tight integration. How is AI best served?

Original Article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-unit-deepmind-triedand-failedto-win-ai-autonomy-from-parent-11621592951

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 Hello, everyone. Today we're going to look at some news in the machine learning world. The Wall Street Journal here writes Google unit DeepMind tried and failed to win AI autonomy from parents. So apparently, DeepMind has sought to become more independent of Google in the past. And here they write that it's been founded in 2010 and bought by Google in 2014. And starting in 2015, there were already talks as far as we want to be more independent. Now apparently, DeepMind told staff late last month that Google has called off those talks. Here it says DeepMind's founders had sought among other ideas, a legal structure used by nonprofit groups reasoning that the powerful artificial intelligence they were researching shouldn't be controlled by a single corporate entity. On the other hand, from Google's point of view, the proposed structure didn't make financial sense for Alphabet, given its total investment in the unit and its willingness to bankroll DeepMind. So DeepMind sold itself to Google because of money needs. Their research consumes ginormous quantities of energy and of researchers and that costs a lot of money. So they cashed in 500 billion as a price. Said it bought the startup for 500 million and the losses of the company were about $660 million. This company makes giant losses because what they do is essentially PR. So the position of Google here is that they want to bring the teams closer together and have a stronger impact rather than separating the teams. This is an asset to Google, a tech asset. So for DeepMind, it's pretty easy to push for a nonprofit structure given that, you know, they will never make profit ever. And their claims to wanting to be open and not in the hands of a single thing. I could take it more seriously if they were ever to publish in open access journals, which they don't. They publish in nature. Oh, you got to pay 20 bucks for that article. Thanks, DeepMind. Surely you don't want the technology to fall into the hands of a select few. If they were to actually open source their code and not just some crappy pseudo code that has lots of mistakes in it. I'm sure you want to just distribute that stuff out of there. Because if it's just in the hand of a single minority, that would be terrible. Right? Right? No, I think what they want is they recognize they got something good going there. They got someone paying for their bills and they don't want someone from top down telling them, hey, make it more into a product. Hey, give it to us. We need it to make money. What are you talking about? Google wants this technology in their products as fast as possible, as best as possible. And DeepMind researchers are just really, really smart people that output these things. Lastly, I want to show you this rendering of the proposed new DeepMind offices in here. Like if that is not the most dystopian future picture I've ever seen. I mean, it does look cool, but it is a bit on the elitist side, I would feel it's a cool office, like, sure, I take it. Absolutely great. What I'm saying is, you want this on one hand, but then also you want giant loss making and independence. On the other hand, maybe that's not possible at the same time. I'm just not really sure that that is the reason DeepMind seeks independence. All right, that was it for me. This is already too long. Tell me what you think in the comments. What should DeepMind do? What should Google do? Who's the good guy? Who's the bad guy? How should AI benefit all of humanity? Or are we all doomed? Peace out.
 Hello, everyone. Today we're going to look at some news in the machine learning world.
 The Wall Street Journal here writes Google unit DeepMind tried and failed to win AI autonomy
 from parents. So apparently, DeepMind has sought to become more independent of Google
 in the past. And here they write that it's been founded in 2010 and bought by Google
 in 2014. And starting in 2015, there were already talks as far as we want to be more
 independent. Now apparently, DeepMind told staff late last month that Google has called
 off those talks. Here it says DeepMind's founders had sought among other ideas, a legal structure
 used by nonprofit groups reasoning that the powerful artificial intelligence they were
 researching shouldn't be controlled by a single corporate entity. On the other hand, from
 Google's point of view, the proposed structure didn't make financial sense for Alphabet,
 given its total investment in the unit and its willingness to bankroll DeepMind. So DeepMind
 sold itself to Google because of money needs. Their research consumes ginormous quantities
 of energy and of researchers and that costs a lot of money. So they cashed in 500 billion
 as a price. Said it bought the startup for 500 million and the losses of the company
 were about $660 million. This company makes giant losses because what they do is essentially
 PR. So the position of Google here is that they want to bring the teams closer together
 and have a stronger impact rather than separating the teams. This is an asset to Google, a tech
 asset. So for DeepMind, it's pretty easy to push for a nonprofit structure given that,
 you know, they will never make profit ever. And their claims to wanting to be open and
 not in the hands of a single thing. I could take it more seriously if they were ever to
 publish in open access journals, which they don't. They publish in nature. Oh, you got
 to pay 20 bucks for that article. Thanks, DeepMind. Surely you don't want the technology
 to fall into the hands of a select few. If they were to actually open source their code
 and not just some crappy pseudo code that has lots of mistakes in it. I'm sure you want
 to just distribute that stuff out of there. Because if it's just in the hand of a single
 minority, that would be terrible. Right? Right? No, I think what they want is they recognize
 they got something good going there. They got someone paying for their bills and they
 don't want someone from top down telling them, hey, make it more into a product. Hey, give
 it to us. We need it to make money. What are you talking about? Google wants this technology
 in their products as fast as possible, as best as possible. And DeepMind researchers
 are just really, really smart people that output these things. Lastly, I want to show
 you this rendering of the proposed new DeepMind offices in here. Like if that is not the most
 dystopian future picture I've ever seen. I mean, it does look cool, but it is a bit on
 the elitist side, I would feel it's a cool office, like, sure, I take it. Absolutely
 great. What I'm saying is, you want this on one hand, but then also you want giant loss
 making and independence. On the other hand, maybe that's not possible at the same time.
 I'm just not really sure that that is the reason DeepMind seeks independence. All right,
 that was it for me. This is already too long. Tell me what you think in the comments. What
 should DeepMind do? What should Google do? Who's the good guy? Who's the bad guy? How
 should AI benefit all of humanity? Or are we all doomed? Peace out.