 Sony has a new set of flagship noise-canceling headphones. These are the WH-1000XM5s. And I know, we've made fun of Sony's awful product names for years now. But I think when it comes to the 1000X series, people get it. These are among the very best noise-canceling headphones you can buy today. Sony's been competing for years against Bose and, more recently, Apple, to win over frequent flyers and commuters and everyone else who can't live without active noise cancellation. And as more jobs move to this hybrid work model, I think noise-canceling headphones are essential for peace and quiet, whether it's your real office or your home office. Sony's 1000XM5s have a fresh design, cleaner sound, and even better ANC. But they're also 50 bucks more expensive than the M4s, which are staying in the lineup. Are they worth that upgrade? Potentially. But it's not a slam dunk, so let's get into it. For the first time in many years, Sony's overhauled the entire design. These 1000XM5s look totally distinct from their predecessors. The headband is thinner, for one, and instead of arms that cradle the earcups at both sides, there's now a stem that runs down the middle. If you look at some of Sony's competition, like Apple's AirPods Max or Bose's noise-canceling headphones 700, I think you can see where they got some inspiration. This new style definitely looks cleaner, with fewer obvious seams and such, but I'm not convinced it looks very premium. The 1000XM4s had some metal on their ratcheting earcups sliders, but everything you can see or touch on the 1000XM5s is all plastic. That's not to say they're not durable. I twisted the hell out of these headphones, and they held up perfectly fine, but for $400, I would have appreciated some nicer materials. My Sennheiser Momentum 3s are just on a different level of fit and finish. But you can also overdo it. Some people would say the AirPods Max are way too heavy, so clearly Sony favors comfort over a lavish design. Both earcups still pivot and turn, just like always, so you're not losing anything there. But one thing Sony's new headphones can't do anymore is fold. This is one of my biggest disappointments with the 1000XM5s. Instead of folding down for convenient portability, these headphones just lay flat in their case. And as a result, that case is large. Whereas I had no issue putting the old case for the 1000XM4s in my bag, the 1000XM5s would not fit in that same slot, so they had to go in the main compartment of my bag. That's not ideal. Look, this case is just too bulky, and I think Sony could have done better. Even Bose's case for the noise-canceling headphone 700, which can't fold up either, is smaller and makes better use of space. People travel with noise-canceling headphones all the time, and so I think Sony's ginormous case is going to cause some frustration. But it is at least a functional case, with storage for the USB-C and headphone cables. One thing you won't find in the box anymore is the dual-pronged airline adapter, which feels a bit stingy for $400, but it is what it is. Now let's talk about sound, and there are bigger changes here than you might expect. Sony's switched from 40mm drivers in the 1000XM4s to 30mm drivers in these new headphones. Now, driver size isn't everything, but I can't think of the last time a pair of Sony headphones sounded this different from their direct predecessors. Based on my time with them so far, I'd say the 1000XM5s are tighter, more detailed, and clean up the sometimes muddy bass of the 1000XM4s. But they also have less oomph to them, they're less in-your-face and less potent out of the box, now those are not audiophile terms, obviously, but I hope it makes sense. I've been doing a lot of comparisons with the same songs on both headphones, and in most cases I do prefer the new ones. When I put on Spoon's new record, for example, the M5s just sound more crisp and detailed. But if I put on hip-hop or dance or soul music, there are times when I do lean towards the older M4s. And so I think it's inevitable that some people are going to prefer the sound of the previous headphones, and maybe that's part of why Sony's keeping them around. Take your pick. If you want cleaner and tighter sound, go for the M5s. If you need that boom factor and the powerful excitement, maybe the M4s are more your style. As for noise cancellation, these actually have the same QN1 chip that was in the M4s, only now there are two of them. And so Sony says the ANC performs similarly on a plane, but should be better at handling street noise and cutting down on nearby voices. And that's all been true in my experience so far. It's still not enough to give you a private bubble of absolute silence if you're in a coffee shop, but it's an improvement over what was already fantastic noise cancellation. One tiny thing to note on the hardware. Past Sony headphones had an optimized button that would adjust the ANC based on factors like air pressure and fit, your hairstyle, if you wear glasses, and so on. Now the button is gone, and that all happens in the background automatically, says Sony. And while part of me does miss the button, it was a fun trick, and who doesn't love buttons? This does make a lot more sense for simplicity's sake. Now we come to voice calls, and my friends, Sony is going for broke. The 1000XM5s have eight microphones in total, and four of them are used for voice. So when you combine that with supposed AI noise reduction algorithm improvements, the results should be good. But the only way to know is to put the M5s through a voice test. So, shall we? Okay, so we're starting out with 1000XM5s. They have more microphones and various AI enhancements, like I said. So this is a pretty ideal scenario. We're in a quiet office, but should give you a good sense of how they sound, voice quality. Are you impressed? Are you meh? Either way, this is the best Sony's managed to do so far. Okay, now we're going back in time to the 1000XM4s, Sony's older headphones, their last gen model. Some people like these for voice. I was never really that impressed. But again, we're in ideal circumstances, a quiet office. So if you're working somewhere, trying to get on a meeting and talk to folks, this is how the M4s perform. And so now we've got the AirPods Max, even more expensive than the M5s. These are Apple's flagship headphones, they've gotten good marks for voice quality. So tell me what you think. Do you prefer these or Sony's? But these are a lot more money. So you got to factor that into. And these are Bose's noise canceling headphones 700. Like the Sony's, they've got a lot of mics, they've gotten good reviews for their voice quality. They look similar too. So it's up to you to decide whether Sony sounds better or if Bose has a leg up again, or in a very quiet office. So I think all these are going to sound pretty good, but it does come down to the details. So let me know what you think in the comments. Last up are Sennheiser's Momentum 3 Wireless. I love how these headphones feel and sound and look, but they don't have the best mics. So I'm sure they're not quite as good as the AirPods Max or the Sony's, but just another comparison for you to hear and see how they come out. The 1000XM5 still support LDAC, Sony's codec for higher quality wireless audio. So if you can't plug in, LDAC is the next best thing for hearing high res music from Apple Music, Amazon Music, and other services. But only on Android, mind you. If you've got an iPhone, you're stuck with good old lower quality AAC and SBC for Bluetooth. These headphones also support multi-point, so you can pair them up with two devices at once, say your phone and your laptop. Unfortunately, Sony still makes you choose one or the other. You can enable either LDAC or multi-point, but you can't do both at the same time. The 1000XM4's had the same restriction and it's back again here. Battery life is still the same 30 hours, which is more than enough to cover 30 hours of long-haul flight. If you turn off all the bells and whistles, you can stretch it out even longer. Last, I want to talk about missed opportunities. All of those things I was hoping Sony might add this time around, but still hasn't. First, it's getting silly that these headphones can't work wirelessly with the PlayStation 5. They're both Sony products. What are we doing here? Second, the USB-C port is still just for charging, and a number of other headphones let you use it for audio as well. There's also still a complete lack of water or sweat resistance, so keep that in mind. I know these aren't workout headphones, but some progress would be nice. Maybe by the time the 1000XM6's roll along in two years, some of these points will be addressed, but I'm not going to hold my breath. And so all of that, in a nutshell, is Sony's 1000XM5's. They've got a new, sleeker design that still doesn't rise up to their $400 price. The active noise cancellation is better than it's ever been. They sound way different, which might prove somewhat divisive. For anyone that already has the 1000XM4's, there is zero reason to run out and upgrade to these. Your headphones can do everything these can, but if you're on older Sonys like the M3's or M2's, then it starts to make more sense. You're getting multi-point, and the best ANC Sony's pulled off yet. I don't love that the price has gone up, and I have no idea what Sony was thinking with this case. For those reasons, take a look at the M4's and maybe save yourself some money. I feel like Sony might have gotten confused about what it wanted the M5's to be. They're like the strange half-step between the M4's and even more expensive headphones like the AirPods Max, but at the end of the day, they're still a damn good set of noise-canceling headphones. Hey there, everybody. Thank you a ton for watching, as always. Right now, I'm outside a coffee shop in New York City, so you can hear how the M5's sound in a much louder environment. For the full review, go to TheVerge.com, and for more videos like this, youtube.com slash TheVerge.
 Sony has a new set of flagship noise-canceling headphones. These are the WH-1000XM5s.
 And I know, we've made fun of Sony's awful product names for years now.
 But I think when it comes to the 1000X series, people get it.
 These are among the very best noise-canceling headphones you can buy today.
 Sony's been competing for years against Bose and, more recently, Apple, to win over frequent flyers
 and commuters and everyone else who can't live without active noise cancellation.
 And as more jobs move to this hybrid work model, I think noise-canceling headphones are essential
 for peace and quiet, whether it's your real office or your home office.
 Sony's 1000XM5s have a fresh design, cleaner sound, and even better ANC.
 But they're also 50 bucks more expensive than the M4s, which are staying in the lineup.
 Are they worth that upgrade? Potentially. But it's not a slam dunk, so let's get into it.
 For the first time in many years, Sony's overhauled the entire design.
 These 1000XM5s look totally distinct from their predecessors.
 The headband is thinner, for one, and instead of arms that cradle the earcups at both sides,
 there's now a stem that runs down the middle.
 If you look at some of Sony's competition, like Apple's AirPods Max or Bose's noise-canceling
 headphones 700, I think you can see where they got some inspiration.
 This new style definitely looks cleaner, with fewer obvious seams and such,
 but I'm not convinced it looks very premium.
 The 1000XM4s had some metal on their ratcheting earcups sliders,
 but everything you can see or touch on the 1000XM5s is all plastic.
 That's not to say they're not durable. I twisted the hell out of these headphones,
 and they held up perfectly fine, but for $400, I would have appreciated some nicer materials.
 My Sennheiser Momentum 3s are just on a different level of fit and finish.
 But you can also overdo it. Some people would say the AirPods Max are way too heavy,
 so clearly Sony favors comfort over a lavish design.
 Both earcups still pivot and turn, just like always, so you're not losing anything there.
 But one thing Sony's new headphones can't do anymore is fold.
 This is one of my biggest disappointments with the 1000XM5s.
 Instead of folding down for convenient portability, these headphones just lay flat in their case.
 And as a result, that case is large.
 Whereas I had no issue putting the old case for the 1000XM4s in my bag,
 the 1000XM5s would not fit in that same slot,
 so they had to go in the main compartment of my bag. That's not ideal.
 Look, this case is just too bulky, and I think Sony could have done better.
 Even Bose's case for the noise-canceling headphone 700, which can't fold up either,
 is smaller and makes better use of space.
 People travel with noise-canceling headphones all the time,
 and so I think Sony's ginormous case is going to cause some frustration.
 But it is at least a functional case, with storage for the USB-C and headphone cables.
 One thing you won't find in the box anymore is the dual-pronged airline adapter,
 which feels a bit stingy for $400, but it is what it is.
 Now let's talk about sound, and there are bigger changes here than you might expect.
 Sony's switched from 40mm drivers in the 1000XM4s to 30mm drivers in these new headphones.
 Now, driver size isn't everything, but I can't think of the last time a pair of Sony
 headphones sounded this different from their direct predecessors.
 Based on my time with them so far, I'd say the 1000XM5s are tighter,
 more detailed, and clean up the sometimes muddy bass of the 1000XM4s.
 But they also have less oomph to them, they're less in-your-face and less potent out of the box,
 now those are not audiophile terms, obviously, but I hope it makes sense.
 I've been doing a lot of comparisons with the same songs on both headphones,
 and in most cases I do prefer the new ones.
 When I put on Spoon's new record, for example, the M5s just sound more crisp and detailed.
 But if I put on hip-hop or dance or soul music, there are times when I do lean towards the older
 M4s. And so I think it's inevitable that some people are going to prefer the sound of the
 previous headphones, and maybe that's part of why Sony's keeping them around.
 Take your pick. If you want cleaner and tighter sound, go for the M5s.
 If you need that boom factor and the powerful excitement, maybe the M4s are more your style.
 As for noise cancellation, these actually have the same QN1 chip that was in the M4s,
 only now there are two of them. And so Sony says the ANC performs similarly on a plane, but
 should be better at handling street noise and cutting down on nearby voices.
 And that's all been true in my experience so far. It's still not enough to give you a private bubble
 of absolute silence if you're in a coffee shop, but it's an improvement over what was already
 fantastic noise cancellation. One tiny thing to note on the hardware. Past Sony headphones had an
 optimized button that would adjust the ANC based on factors like air pressure and fit, your
 hairstyle, if you wear glasses, and so on. Now the button is gone, and that all happens in the
 background automatically, says Sony. And while part of me does miss the button, it was a fun trick,
 and who doesn't love buttons? This does make a lot more sense for simplicity's sake.
 Now we come to voice calls, and my friends, Sony is going for broke. The 1000XM5s have eight
 microphones in total, and four of them are used for voice. So when you combine that with supposed
 AI noise reduction algorithm improvements, the results should be good. But the only way to know
 is to put the M5s through a voice test. So, shall we? Okay, so we're starting out with 1000XM5s.
 They have more microphones and various AI enhancements, like I said. So this is a pretty
 ideal scenario. We're in a quiet office, but should give you a good sense of how they sound,
 voice quality. Are you impressed? Are you meh? Either way, this is the best Sony's managed to do
 so far. Okay, now we're going back in time to the 1000XM4s, Sony's older headphones,
 their last gen model. Some people like these for voice. I was never really that impressed.
 But again, we're in ideal circumstances, a quiet office. So if you're working somewhere,
 trying to get on a meeting and talk to folks, this is how the M4s perform. And so now we've
 got the AirPods Max, even more expensive than the M5s. These are Apple's flagship headphones,
 they've gotten good marks for voice quality. So tell me what you think. Do you prefer these or
 Sony's? But these are a lot more money. So you got to factor that into. And these are Bose's
 noise canceling headphones 700. Like the Sony's, they've got a lot of mics, they've gotten good
 reviews for their voice quality. They look similar too. So it's up to you to decide whether Sony
 sounds better or if Bose has a leg up again, or in a very quiet office. So I think all these are
 going to sound pretty good, but it does come down to the details. So let me know what you think
 in the comments. Last up are Sennheiser's Momentum 3 Wireless. I love how these headphones feel and
 sound and look, but they don't have the best mics. So I'm sure they're not quite as good as the
 AirPods Max or the Sony's, but just another comparison for you to hear and see how they come
 out. The 1000XM5 still support LDAC, Sony's codec for higher quality wireless audio. So if you can't
 plug in, LDAC is the next best thing for hearing high res music from Apple Music, Amazon Music,
 and other services. But only on Android, mind you. If you've got an iPhone, you're stuck with good
 old lower quality AAC and SBC for Bluetooth. These headphones also support multi-point,
 so you can pair them up with two devices at once, say your phone and your laptop. Unfortunately,
 Sony still makes you choose one or the other. You can enable either LDAC or multi-point,
 but you can't do both at the same time. The 1000XM4's had the same restriction and it's back
 again here. Battery life is still the same 30 hours, which is more than enough to cover 30
 hours of long-haul flight. If you turn off all the bells and whistles, you can stretch it out even
 longer. Last, I want to talk about missed opportunities. All of those things I was hoping
 Sony might add this time around, but still hasn't. First, it's getting silly that these headphones
 can't work wirelessly with the PlayStation 5. They're both Sony products. What are we doing
 here? Second, the USB-C port is still just for charging, and a number of other headphones let
 you use it for audio as well. There's also still a complete lack of water or sweat resistance,
 so keep that in mind. I know these aren't workout headphones, but some progress would be nice.
 Maybe by the time the 1000XM6's roll along in two years, some of these points will be addressed,
 but I'm not going to hold my breath. And so all of that, in a nutshell, is Sony's 1000XM5's.
 They've got a new, sleeker design that still doesn't rise up to their $400 price. The active
 noise cancellation is better than it's ever been. They sound way different, which might prove
 somewhat divisive. For anyone that already has the 1000XM4's, there is zero reason to run out
 and upgrade to these. Your headphones can do everything these can, but if you're on older
 Sonys like the M3's or M2's, then it starts to make more sense. You're getting multi-point,
 and the best ANC Sony's pulled off yet. I don't love that the price has gone up, and I have no
 idea what Sony was thinking with this case. For those reasons, take a look at the M4's and maybe
 save yourself some money. I feel like Sony might have gotten confused about what it wanted the
 M5's to be. They're like the strange half-step between the M4's and even more expensive headphones
 like the AirPods Max, but at the end of the day, they're still a damn good set of noise-canceling
 headphones. Hey there, everybody. Thank you a ton for watching, as always. Right now, I'm outside
 a coffee shop in New York City, so you can hear how the M5's sound in a much louder environment.
 For the full review, go to TheVerge.com, and for more videos like this, youtube.com slash TheVerge.