 to start asking, we're ready for those. And then Ashley's gonna join us again, and we're gonna talk about what's happening with the digital instant cameras, which are very quietly, like a hot, controversial situation. Would you say at the verge that we have a bevy of experts? Cornucopia. Cornucopia of expertise. It's a real situation. But first, we're gonna get in all that, but first, Ashley and Jake are gonna walk us through the news, take it away. Hello, yeah, so we are rapidly approaching Samsung's phone season, and the leaks are starting. The S9 has leaked this week. There should be, oh, hey, look at that, there's a photo. So this is, it looks just like you would expect a Galaxy device to look like, but hey, this is a nice color. It's a lilac, maybe. And then also, you'll notice the fingerprint sensor is below the camera as opposed to next to it, which was a huge complaint people had. There was also news today that this phone is going to be priced more expensive than the S8, like right out of the gate, and people probably won't love that. So this is what we know so far is maybe what it looks like, and then also the Plus has dual vertically stacked cameras, which we don't see here, but it's kinda like the iPhone X. What's really wild to me is that a year ago, this design really stood out, and now this looks completely normal. This is the front of every single phone. Yeah, exactly, it doesn't wow you anymore. You're just like, oh, yeah, full display. I'm all about Samsung doing weird and interesting colors, though. Nobody else does this stuff. Yeah, we like the colors here. We cover every Samsung color because we love them so much. Love it. Yesterday, Intel, out of nowhere, basically, announced smart glasses. They're called Vaunt. We have an exclusive, hands-on, you should go read Dieter's article. We have a big video on it. But the gist is that these are smart glasses that look completely normal. So if you're thinking Google Glass, these are kinda all the way in the other direction. Rather than interacting with them a bunch with swipes and gestures and having a screen in front of your face, there's basically nothing. There is just some lasers that shoot a little projection into your eye, and you don't even see it all the time. It's just in your peripheral vision. It'll show some notifications, some contextual information. But it's basically just supposed to stay out of the way so that it's there when you want it, but not when you are actually talking to people and trying to interact with the rest of the world. I think it's a really neat and interesting approach, and it sounds like they've learned a lot of the lessons that Google did not realize when it first did Glass. Like people don't wanna wear a computer on their face. Yeah, exactly. So they definitely still have a lot to prove, but they're supposed to come out with a developer version by the end of the year. Yeah, I definitely am really interested when people start using this and how people interact with each other while they technically are wearing a computer on their face. Like how I'm gonna talk to you right now, but also be like silently watching my Twitter feed. Oh, you're gonna get all kinds of, no. I'll give you full attention sometimes. So iPhone X, we all know it for its notch. And now Chinese phone manufacturers are introducing a bunch of notch knockoffs, as we've started calling them. So this is the Ocatell one. You could see there's the notch. And then we have another one that just came out as well called the NOA N10, also has a notch. What's interesting about these is that, like the notch is great. We like the notch, but you're not fooling. Like no one's going to see this and think, oh, that's an iPhone X. Like this is not an iPhone X body. Also the screen doesn't go all the way to the bottom. You have also the Android navigations. I mean, it's just not fooling anyone, but you have a notch. Right, like, so Android's not optimized for this, which is like gonna be horrible. Right, people have waited for their favorite apps to be optimized, and Android definitely is not going to have those apps. I know people like the notches are very controversial. I actually think it is cool because it's like instantly identifiable, which I think is what they're going for here. But like, it's pretty clear that this is not an iPhone. Yeah, I really like the notch. But I don't know if I like it on the notch knockoffs. Yes. Microsoft last week dropped the price on two of its Surface laptops quite a bit. The Surface Book 2 went down by $300. The Surface laptop went down by $200. Did I say that right? $300 and $200. This is a pretty big decrease, which is great because it's going to help get more people into the line for them. But the downside is that they have worse specs, a slower processor, or less storage. I think that's an OK trade-off in some cases. But you know, it's not necessarily the best thing. It's not like they just dropped the price on the current entry level. They made like a new entry level that's a bit cheaper. I guess as to why this happened is because the Surface devices haven't been selling quite as well as people expect them to. I thought they were doing really well. They were doing surprisingly well. But when Microsoft announced their earnings recently, I think it was like a 1% year-over-year growth, which is probably why they're trying to get more people in with these lower prices. And you get the fancy fabric. Totally. They're nice looking computers. That you can care for, definitely. OK, and finally, this week we saw that HP has decided that it's going to introduce new smart assistant skills for Alexa or Google Home, whichever, so that you can talk to your printer and apparently shout at it to print you Sudoku puzzles. I don't know why this was their example. They just really want you to just shout and say, hey printer, or whatever your keyword is, and say, hey printer, print me this document. I don't even know what you say to a printer. Print the thing. Right. You need to have a document open. Like, I don't understand. That's why I don't understand. Because you're always at a computer. Are they operating a cloud service for Sudoku puzzles? Like. He has, you know, it's not clear. OK. Jake, it's really just not clear. But yeah, I figure you're always at a computer anyways, looking at the document, thinking, OK, you know what would be nice? I'd like to have this printed. Let me just print. Yeah. Instead, you're going to be like, wait, this would be nice if I printed. Set this aside. Yeah. Alexa, I need this printed. While you're with your family, you're going out to dinner, be like, now. When does the idea ever strike that you're walking around your kitchen and you're like, you know what? I forgot to print that thing. Whatever. Good for you, HB. Keep doing you. All right. So we're going to give it right back now to Paul and Eli. We're back. Sean O'Kane is here. Hello, Sean. I bumped into you. I'm a little jittery. Just watched a gigantic rocket take off from Cape Canaveral. Yeah. OK. So Sean is a reporter on our transportation team. He's here to talk about drones. But this is true. You also cover a bunch of space with our traffic space reporter Lauren Grosh, who is at Cape Canaveral. She is. She just saw the thing go into the sky and do its thing. We were all watching that stream right before the show started. And then the little ones landed. Yep. That's the technical term. So let's just talk about it. We can't ignore it. Yeah. Sean, you cover a bunch of space. Tell us how important Falcon Heavy was. I mean, if we ever want to do more than we're already doing in space, we need bigger rockets to do things that are more impressive than the things we've been doing with big rockets. So like go to the moon? Go to the moon, go to Mars, bring heavier. If we ever want to do internet in space based on satellites, we need heavier lift rockets. And so SpaceX had a pretty clever solution to this, which was this sort of multiple rockets strapped together solution, which we've seen before. But their whole idea is they're going to land them all. We know that two of the three landed. We're not sure about the one that's supposed to land in sea yet. The last one lands on a drone ship. But I mean, it was one of those things where no one was really totally sure it was going to survive the whole thing. I mean, the whole point, the whole goal was don't explode. Yeah. Basically, that's what Elon Musk said. Way overachieved the goal. He said, as long as it doesn't ruin the launch pad, I'm fine. And so it didn't. So the bonus points is Elon Musk's Tesla is the payload. Which kind of looks like this drone. Oh. A transition shot. Yeah, there's a Tesla in space now. Whatever. That's crazy. My favorite part of this is that Paul was asking sort of, they can't land the Tesla on Mars. Because we don't want to contaminate Mars. He said yesterday on a press conference that there is a tiny, tiny chance it hits Mars. Which he'll actually be in some deep water if it does. But it's not going to. He's going to miss it by a lot. He's just trying to make a spectacle out of it. I'm ready to contaminate Mars. The first thing we contaminate Mars with should not be Elon Musk's car. That's what you think. All right, Sean. Anyways. The Falcon Heavy is super exciting. I was actually sad that it was running into our show because I wanted to watch it. But all the timing worked out. We got to watch it. And now we're here to talk about drones. Other things that fly. Maybe not quite as high. This is the DJI Mavic Air. It just came out, right? Just came out. They announced it, god, two weeks ago. Maybe three. Put it on sale less than a week later. They've gotten really good at this sort of maybe some rumors and stuff leak. But otherwise, here's the thing. It's available next week. Get ready. I think they're a company that's really honed their product presence over the last couple of years. And they've made really good products. This is sort of the latest and greatest from them. And if you're familiar with the DJI lineup, there's the Mavic Pro at the top. We have right here on bottom. It's like the Inspire, the Phantom. There's a whole lot more. Of the more portable ones, right? The ones that are at $1,000 or less. And so we've got the Mavic Pro, which is a little bit more than $1,000. The Spark, which is the one they released a couple months ago, maybe even, or I guess back in 2017, which is a more approachable drone for people who are just starting out. And then now this is the Mavic Air. And it sort of slots in between those two. But it also kind of replaces the Mavic Pro. It's in many ways, other than maybe battery life and a couple small details, it's basically this in this package, which is pretty wild. So what's the point of it? Do you guys line up, it's either the simplest thing in the world or the most complicated? Yeah, this probably complicated things a little bit. This is $799. You can get it for $999 with a whole bunch of extra batteries and sort of extra propellers and things like that. But you do get a lot for $799. This is $399. Used to be $600, right? Used to be $500 and $600 with all the extra stuff. So this one's really still the entry level. What complicates things is if this is really replacing this, but they're still selling this for more, that's where it's a little bit weird. This one folds up to be this big. Yeah. And that one folds up to be smaller. This folds up into a profile that is, yes, even smaller than the Spark. So the Spark is obviously lighter. I'm showing you this later. The Spark is lighter than the Mavic Air. You got a handy carrying case. Yeah, and this is a carrying case that comes in. The case is smaller than the case from a Nintendo Switch. Yeah. That's ridiculous. I didn't quite wrap it up. So I bought a Phantom. Before DJI went on this tear, before the first Mavic came out, I bought a Phantom 4. And I was like, this is the one. This is the consumer grab. Richy rich. Well, my forthcoming child is not going to college now. But she can look at my drone flying in the air. But I thought that was like, we've hit the pinnacle. This is a small. And then DJI just went on this absolute tear with these smaller and smaller drones. And then the Spark, and now the Air, all within the last year and a half. So which one do you buy? So the split for me is the same split. I think that one of our videographers and directors at West, Viren, who did the review of the Mavic Air, I think he elucidated it pretty well in his review. The split is, if you're doing any kind of professional work, weddings, landscape photography, things like that, you're probably still better off opting for the Phantom, the Phantom 4, the Phantom 4 Pro, depending on there's a couple different versions. That's work. It's actually really confusing. But if you're just a hobbyist, or if portability really, really matters to you, the Mavic Air is for sure the one you want. Yeah. Let's see. This might do a little bit of damage to the propellers. But you can fit it in a pie. And we're going to fly it in the studio. This is a good reason to wear cargo pants. Yes. You said it. Finally. Finally. And it's just, the value really comes from the ability to not be lugging around. Because if you've ever seen anybody use the Phantom 4 Pro, or the Phantom 4, and you know this. It's huge. And the box that you have to fit it in, because none of it folds up. It's got those big landing legs. And even this was a little bit heavy. You've always got this exposed, whereas the camera now is sort of tucked in here on the Mavic Air. The Mavic Air has the same camera system as the Mavic Pro. So the image quality is the same. And the only benefit you really still get with the Mavic Pro, the new version of it, the Mavic Pro Platinum, is you get a few more extra minutes of battery life. This also works over RF with the controller, as opposed to Wi-Fi, which means the range is a little bit longer than the Mavic Air. But I mean, the Mavic Air, those are your trade-offs. You want to get slightly less range by a mile or two. So do you have any connection problems with the controller? Yeah, so people on YouTube, Jordan on YouTube here is saying in the chat, he's pointing out this uses Wi-Fi to connect. And you get a little bit less range. And people are pointing out the video signal to your phone or whatever is less good. I don't think that matters. As long as you can see what it's doing, it doesn't matter. Especially because if I were to use it, I would use it especially for photography and videography more than just the fun of flying it. And that kind of stuff usually really bothers me if the video is cutting out. I didn't experience that with this. I didn't fly it too far away because it's been really windy all weekend here. How did it wind? It actually held up pretty well. Gusts of like 25. No, it really didn't. That was the weirdest thing about it. If you were filming straight through, trying to pull off a smooth maneuver, anything above 15 miles an hour was starting to give it a little bit of trouble as far as it would correct. And you can see that in the footage. Does it fight the wind or does it just go with the flow? There's a tolerance. If a gust comes at some point, you can see it in the footage in the way that the gimbal, which is trying to hold it steady, would all of a sudden just sort of jump and finally give in. But it held up pretty well. And the battery life, I think when you're working with a max of 21, the differences of what you're going to get are pretty small anyways. So Paul, if you can show this camera. So we asked DJI about this too. I think all of us have asked about the Wi-Fi versus RF. So these are actually the Wi-Fi antennas in these lights. And the reason that, at least they told me, I'm sure they told you the same thing, they can't fit the RF components into a chassis this small to do the custom RF signal. So they had to go with this boosted Wi-Fi. And especially because this has seven cameras on it. You can see all the way around. It has cameras on basically every surface, which means that it has obstacle avoidance in every direction now, which they haven't had in these other smaller drones before. To the point that it even has a mode where you can set it to, it's called APAS. I forget what it stands for right now. But basically, instead of what this would do if it saw something approaching it, it would just stop so it wouldn't crash, which is great. But what this can do is, with enough cameras on it, it can actually sort of plot out a path to get around the obstacle. So if you've set the drone to sort of like follow a mountain biker, and you just let it go and follow that path, but all of a sudden there's a tree that you didn't really think was in the way, but is, it can move around that, and it won't really disturb that shot too much. It'll keep that person in focus. It just feels like they're not holding anything back. They're not like, well, this is the mid-tier. We better make sure that it doesn't eclipse this one. They're just like, here's what we have technology-wise. We're putting it in a drone. Here you go. I think it was a bold move to sort of just like up and essentially kind of replace this. But it does sort of pave the path for them to do something new with this like $1,000 and up version that they have. You know, like they can maybe make the Phantom 4 a little bit smaller now. Or maybe they could do something even crazier, like 40-minute battery life in this form factor or something. I know, right? We've got to talk about these controllers. Yeah, and so they're real different. So this is the Mavic. That's the Mavic Pro's controller, which has an integrated screen in there to give you some basic information, but it's still meant for you to plug your phone in to use as the viewfinder. What I really like about, this is such a small little detail, but the joysticks on the new Mavic Air controller tuck right in here so that when you pack it up, like I'm a kind of person that just throws stuff in his bag and the objects suffer the consequences, whereas here you can take these off the end, plug them in, and you're not having these get mangled up in your, or catch something else in a bag. And then you just take your phone, get Face ID on, and slot it in. Are we going to light this thing up? I think we should, right? I mean, we're here. That's the whole point of the show. Another thing to know about the Mavic Air is that it has some more advanced gesture controls compared to the Spark. The Spark you were able to let fly off your hand and everything. Oh my gosh. The Mavic Air you can actually take off from the ground. So if I was standing in front of this right now, I could hold my hand out. It would recognize that. It would fly up and do things like that. And I will say, I have watched a lot of videos that people have put online just for our own sanity. Oh, come on. What's the point of flying without it if you want? Let's do it. All right, let's do it. What are we here for? That's why the people watch. It's like NASCAR. There is this guy in Texas. Oh, I got to turn the remote on. That probably will help. There's this guy in Texas who was just standing out in the middle of nowhere, and he was only able to get about, I want to say, like a mile and a half range. And they're advertising two and a half miles of this. So I do still think if you're a skilled pilot who's still flying very far away, you're probably not going to want to opt for the Air. It's like the perfect thing to always have at the ready. Maybe if you're a pro, you fly with your Phantom. But this is the thing that you always have ready whenever you need it. I'm terrified. Yeah, you should be. Thanks, Sean. Here's the thing. It can totally go worse than the Falcon Heavy launch, because the Falcon Heavy launch actually went really well. Last time we flew the full-size Mavic in a hotel room. Without guards? Without guards. We're not guards. Lauren just lit it up and took off. All right. I'm just backing up a little bit. All right, here we go. I realize I put out a lot of bravery and confidence. Whoa. Nice. That's awfully windy. So with the spark, you can like. So it's loud. They haven't made it any quieter than the Mavic Pro Platinum. The Mavic Pro Platinum has these new propellers that are quieter, about 10 decibels. So this is definitely not quieter. No. So it's smaller, which means it's discreet. But people still know when you take off. Yeah, so there's us. OK, let's take a. Oh, and here's the thing. I forgot to put a memory card back in this, but it has eight gigs of internal storage now. So. Oh, and it's full. All right. Now I wonder if. All right. It's not working. Yeah, I think I had turned on the gesture recognition. But I will say. Come back. Oh, I am so ready to run. We'll just set it down over there. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to throw my camera at it. Because it wasn't backing up. So we'll just land it over there. I will say it is as someone who's flown a couple of these different drones in the past, it is like really easy to fly. Like they've really smoothed out sort of all the algorithms as far as like how it balances itself out. It has a sport mode that does 42 and a half miles an hour, which is actually terrifying. I flew that around a field and then I brought it back towards me and the distance it needs to stop. I wasn't sort of ready for it. So it's like almost. The smart features. The is that like a kill all humans mode where where it will just go right into something and it just takes you in the middle of the field, which is kind of cool. So it's like a level of skill. It's not like a. It's like a hard low. You're not gonna get the same kind of speed as if you're driving it. Or does it still have obstacle avoidance? You'll lose some of the obstacle avoidance. I think when it's far out, like I remember bringing it up to a certain height and it would tell me that it would lose some of that. But yeah, it's otherwise relatively easy to fly. Is there another drone from another company? No. Hey guys, This is from the archives. You know, dead, Karma. He wrote a thing over a year ago, almost, yeah, a year and a half ago. I like that we stripped this of its propellers to really give it that good fish feel. DJI's only real competition is itself at this point. All the other ones don't really compare. The Karma was like, I don't know, maybe in another generation or two it could compete a bit. Even CEO Nick Woodman of GoPro has admitted there's just no way that they were not vertically integrated enough to make something new as fast as a company like DJI. So these are really, this is like where you wanna look if you are looking to get into drones. I still think if you've never flown one before, Spark's still the best way to go. It's cheapest. Still does a decent video, at least for social. Maybe not for pro work, but the real killer would be if you could fold those legs in. That's the only thing, is like if you have a couple extra hundred bucks to spare, oh, it's down on the ground. The Air does tuck in pretty nicely. Well, look, I can't think of a better thing to take photos of my new baby with than a drone. And a terrifying thing. Everyone, by the way, everyone in the chat was noticing that sound is incredibly threatening. Yeah, it's not. Drones are always threatening. I get really. I'll go rescue the drone if that's okay. I get a lot of social anxiety, so I went like all the way outside the city to fly this thing, and I set it down in a park and there was almost nobody around me, and then it fired up and I was like, oh, God, this is too much. Like everybody knows that I'm flying this thing, and they just can't see it because it's smaller. Exactly, okay, everyone wants to know if the Core Booster landed. I think you probably are dying to know. I do too, yeah, I need to know. So we're gonna let Sean go. We're gonna find out what's going on with the Core Booster. We'll let you know on the livestream here. But we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna watch a little bit of the HomePod review to get through some of the super nitty gritty technical details, and then Dan Sievert's gonna be here. We're gonna have basically every smart speaker that we can get our hands on, plus the HomePod. Ask us your questions in the chat. We're ready to answer them. We're ready to ask Siri your questions. Let's watch this video. We'll be right back. So this is the HomePod. The HomePod is Apple's answer to the Google Home and the Amazon Echo and every other smart speaker out there with a voice assistant. It's a $350 speaker that has Siri. The basic idea is pretty simple. It's covered in a weird spongy fabric. There's a touch display on top, and it's surprisingly heavy. But the HomePod is pretty limited. Siri just can't do as much as other assistants, and the only music service you can control with your voice is Apple Music. If you're a Spotify person, the HomePod is probably not for you. And I think Apple knows it's pretty limited because all of the company's focus is on sound quality. The truth is most other smart speakers sound crappy, and the HomePod sounds incredible. We've been comparing it to the new Amazon Echo, a bunch of Sonos speakers, including the new Sonos one and the Play 5, the Google Home and the Google Home Max, and even Bluetooth speakers like the UE Megaboom. And it's just obviously better than all of them. The HomePod isn't just one speaker. It's actually eight of them, all controlled by an A8 processor and tons of custom software. There are seven tweeters that fire down and out from the bottom and a single four-inch woofer pointing out of the top for low frequencies. There's also a total of seven microphones, six around the middle for Siri and a seventh inside that measures the location of that woofer so Apple can precisely control the bass. When you first plug in the HomePod and start playing music, it goes through a series of steps that tune the speaker to the room it's in. First, it uses the mics to detect any walls nearby so it knows how sound will bounce off of them. Second, it uses those seven tweeters to form a virtual array of sound beams that are assigned to direct and ambient sounds like vocals and applause. The ambient channels are pointed at the walls to reflect and the direct sounds are pointed out at the listener. Sometime during all of that, it detects the walls again to refine the model of the room it's in. Then it analyzes the difference between the left and right channels of the music you're playing to figure out what sound should go into what beams, ambient or direct. And then it measures the position of the subwoofer and the reflections of the bass constantly as you're playing music to make sure the bass doesn't overwhelm the rest of the music. And all of this happens at once within like 10 seconds. If you move the HomePod, an accelerometer inside detects motion and it does it all over again. In terms of ideas I'm into, a virtual array of sound beams that points guitar solos at my face is super high on the list. We're back, Dan Seifert's here. Hi. How's it going, buddy? I'm doing well. I'm all right. I've spent a lot of time talking to Siri. Uh-huh, that's a fun time. It's all right. So you have reviewed most of the other smart speakers. I just reviewed the HomePod, we just watched that video. I've had it for about a week now. Apple took me to, they didn't take me, they invited me to Cupertino. I took myself there. Paid our own way as we always do. But went out to Cupertino, hung out with their hardware VP, hung out with their head engineer for audio, hung out with Phil Schiller, walked through their audio labs and saw how their engineers got really deep in how the HomePod works. You listened to a lot of Hotel California. We listened to a lot of Hotel California, which is a true experience. The video, you just watched it. I think what's happening on the audio side of the HomePod is super impressive and cool. I'm an audio nerd. I have all kinds of speakers in my house. Usually I don't love a lot of audio processing. This thing is doing so much computing to make itself sound good all of the time that I, just the part where it has seven speakers here. So you think all seven speakers are doing something different. The seven speakers are actually making three virtual speakers and they're firing back against the wall or out to the front. Like all of that is so cool. There's a microphone inside that measures the position of the subwoofer. I don't trust it. And it precisely controls that position. I don't trust the UI. Yeah. Back in my day, two bookshelf speakers, a nice amp. Some sliders. Yeah, you need that graphic EQ. No, I don't even need a EQ. So we're just gonna start going in on questions here. First question everybody asked in the chat, is there a mute switch? Hmm, that's a good question. And the answer is basically no. So all the other ones, the Echo here is, the Echo is muted, you can see it's red. The Sonos one, you push the button on top, it mutes. The mic is muted. The Google Home devices have switches. Here's what you can do with the HomePod, which is not necessarily great. You can say, hey Siri, stop listening. And then Siri, Siri. And there's no confirmation. Now it confirms it just didn't work. Hey Siri, stop listening. I can turn off Hey Siri, but if I do, you'll need to press the top of the device to get my attention. Is this what you want? Yes. Okay, I've turned off Hey Siri. So now it's off. So now if you wanna, you can be like. Nope. You gotta hold it down. There you go. What's the weather? You know, it'll do it. Or it won't. It's still, there you go. It's currently cloudy and 37 degrees and eight. So Siri is a lot more responsive. Now if you wanna turn, actually you do need Paul Campol. If you wanna turn that back on, you go into the Home app. Okay. And then you force touch on HomePod and then you press details. Get rid of my Slack messages. And then you go here and you gotta click that back on. Oh, nice. It's easy. It's a bunch of steps. No problem. The other thing that I pointed out in the review video, everyone focused on Spotify, we'll get into Spotify in a second. I think this is actually the bigger problem with the HomePod. Right now, the way it is configured, you just hit yes on all the setup prompts. The setup is super easy. Just blast through it. It will just let anyone read my texts. Hey Siri. Wait, wait, wait. Let me see what my last text is. Okay. Is it SFW? Say read my most recent text message. Hey Siri, read my most recent text message. It's from Walt. I found your most recent message from Walt Mossberg. Oh, look at you. Cool. Would you like to reply? That's it. No. That's crazy. Okay. No. Just stay away. That is bonkers. Right? Anybody in your house who's relative. And the gate is if you're just on the same wifi network. Yeah. How do you turn that off? Okay, watch this. Okay. Okay. So if you're in a dorm, and you're on the dorm wifi, and it's expensive, but some college students are gonna buy this. You're on the dorm wifi, and you leave your dorm room, and you're like in the dining hall, someone can walk up to your closed door, and like yell the wake word, and ask it to read your text messages, and it will just do it. So you just turn that off. So here's how you turn it off. This is a lot of steps. So this is the HomePod settings. Sure. Oh. That's fine. Yeah, so you're already in there because you've gone through the process. Yeah. It's not there. It's here. In the compass? Is that a compass? Yeah, so you go here, and then you pick your house, and you do that. I wanna show you my email address. It's here. And you turn it off there. So it's like not in the HomePod settings, it's in your house settings. That's logical. Not sensible. So this is a HomeKit device? It's a HomeKit device. So those two things, just those two little configuration things where you don't want anybody to roll up to it and read your text, and turning the mic on and off, they just require you to operate your phone in a way that none of these other devices really want you to use your phone. Like the Alexa app is horrible. Like it is actively designed to make you not want to use it. It almost feels intentionally so, yeah. Because they just want you to talk to Alexa. The Home app is fine, but Google just wants you to talk to it, whatever. The HomePod to me is just directly connected to your phone. Your individual phone. On the review I called it lonely, and I think that's like, sad. Yeah. Like that part's sad to me. All right, what else do people want to know? Also Siri, I mean we just have, hey Siri. Hey Siri. Play some music. Sure. Let's kick things off with planets and stars by first code. Sure. That's weird. Hey Siri. Play Taylor Swift. We're just gonna do this. We're just gonna deal with the licensing issues. Sure. Here's a personalized station of Taylor Swift. Personalized to me. This is Neal's favorite. It's my favorite. So you can be like, hey Siri, who plays the bass on this song? I don't know who plays that instrument for this band. And that is basically the Siri experience. Yeah. A lot of I don't know. A lot of I don't know. Hey Siri, how much does HomePod weigh? Everything you need to know about HomePods is on Apple's website. Ask Alexa though. All right. Alexa, how much does a HomePod weigh? Private residence's average weight is 100 pounds. Private residence? What? How much does a private? You just asked how much does a home weigh and just like gave it. That's what I said, right? Apple HomePod. We did this before, right? Yeah. Alexa, how much does a HomePod weigh? Apple HomePod weighs 5.5 pounds. There we go. And Google has it wrong because the answer is wrong in Google. So it's just like, it's Siri. It works as well as Siri works in that it's supposed to be able to tell you who's playing on all the songs that you listen to. It's not. We can't show you what it sounds like here. Like we're just not set up for that in the studio. If you watch the video, we set up a really fancy binaural microphone. Put some headphones on. We played the same song through all the speakers in a pretty good location in my house. And you can actually hear a difference, not like the difference. You really need to hear it in person. But the biggest question, the controversy of the morning is Spotify because I said in the review, it doesn't work with Spotify. And Jonathan Morrison, who's a good dude who I like, and we watch his videos, he collabs with us. His video is like, yes, you can use it with Spotify. Here's the difference. I'm gonna explain this to everybody. You can AirPlay to this using virtually any app on your phone that supports AirPlay. You push the button, it's on your phone, and send it over over AirPlay. AirPlay supports some playback commands. So you can basically play, pause, next track, previous track. It's a big fancy remote control. But because it doesn't have buttons, you can just say next track, backtrack. It will send that command to your phone over AirPlay, and that will pass to Spotify. So you get like remote control. So it's considered Spotify support. Yeah, that's not Spotify support. Spotify, it's not like running Spotify. It doesn't know it's Spotify. It's just sending these like. Yeah, you can't ask it what song it is. It's the same as my Bluetooth speaker has playback controls on the top, and it will like lightly control the thing. It also doesn't have Bluetooth. Doesn't have, you can't Bluetooth through it. Doesn't have AUS. Well, let me just finish this thought. Oh, I'm sorry. What you want, it's an iOS computer. It's your review, it's your review. It has an A processor. It should just be able, you should just be able to set Spotify as a default. Say, hey, play me a song. Absolutely. And it should just play it from Spotify. So there's this limited support for playback controls on any AirPlay app. Spotify, Tidal, Pandora, what have you. I think that is very different than controlling Spotify. It sounds like what you're saying is that this sounds great, but it's a big dummy. But isn't that true of any truly great rockstar? Yeah. Yeah. People are asking about the power cord in the chat. The power cord is incredibly nice. Let's get a little closer. So it's super nice, but it's also permanently attached. Which means that if you vacuum it or your cat tears it or whatever, you have to go get the whole thing repaired. Whereas virtually every other one of these has a detachable power cord that you can replace very easily. Which just seems like a weird thing. But it is a very, it reminds me of a vacuum. Okay, here's the other big question that just caught in the chat from where I was asking in the chat here. Can you play music on the Apple TV and have it play in the HomePod at the same time? That sounds like a great idea. So it's a $350 speaker. It's, you know, if you're a normal-ish person, it's probably the best speaker you're gonna own. You probably wanna play your TV out of it. If you have an Apple TV, you can set the Apple TV to AirPlay to it like any other AirPlay speaker. That will, connection will last until you ask it to play music. Then it will lose that connection. And then when you go to watch the Apple TV again, you have to go back into settings and set it to AirPlay again. Are the settings in the HomeKit app or on the Apple TV? No, they're on the Apple TV. So every time you watch something, you gotta make sure you're connected to the HomePod as an AirPlay device. Which seems incredibly cool. It seems incredibly inconvenient. You also, if you have an Apple, if you don't have an Apple TV, you can't use it as a TV speaker. If you have an Apple TV and a PlayStation, you can't use it as the PlayStation speaker, just the Apple TV. So I don't think it's ready to be a TV-connected speaker unless literally all you have in your life is Apple products and you only use the Apple TV and you're willing to deal with that AirPlay nonsense in the middle. That's my goal. Are you saying this is the best speaker on this table or like one of the best speakers you've ever heard? It's one of the best speakers I've ever heard. Without a doubt. It is, I mean like, okay, it is the best speaker on this table. I think, Dan, I think you reviewed the Home Max. I did, yes. And you know, the funny part is like any one of these in a vacuum is going to sound really good. Like the Home Max, if you don't compare it to anything else, if this is the speaker you bought and you put in your house, you're probably gonna be really happy with the way it sounds. The same for the Sonos One, sounds excellent on its own. These two are a little different. They, you know, they kind of sound like garbage right away. But when you compare them head to the head and side by side, the HomePod basically stands out from everything. It fills a room better. It's got better bass response without getting muddy. It just sounds more full. And like, there are certain things that maybe the Sonos One is a little clearer on certain frequencies, but overall, most people, I would say like 99 out of 100, if in a blind test are gonna probably pick the HomePod as the one. So we, The Home Max is very loud and very big, but it has this like weird scooped sound, which means that it has a very low mid range, but like boosted bass and boosted treble. So it has this kind of weird sound. In the Home app, a lot of people ask me this, the Home app does have EQ settings, but the, I agree with Dan, it sounds like really boosted bass, really boosted treble. You know what slider isn't in the Home app's EQ settings? Mid range. Oh no. So it's just like, you can't fix it. When you compare this to say like a Sonos Play 5, which is roughly the same size and the same price range and everything, this just sounds like it has this like filter over the sound that's like softening it and you lose a lot of that clarity for some reason. But like I said, if you never compare it, I think we're probably, like reviewers are the only ones who are gonna compare these head to head. If someone buys this and puts it in their house, they're gonna probably be really happy with it. But you know, there are better options out there. So I think these are the two best. I actually, I really don't like the way the Home Max sounds. That's my personal taste. It's all very subjective. Head to head, this sounds better than the Sonos, but again, this sounds really good. And it lets you do Spotify and it lets you control Spotify with Alexa. So, and, sorry. It's like a danger of the workplace here. And Sonos is like a music platform. So you can get all kinds of Sonos speakers and fit all kinds of rooms and Spotify Connect is on all kinds of devices. You can't do the stereo pairing with this. Not yet. And AirPlay 2 isn't out. When AirPlay 2 comes out, Sonos will support it. And you'll be able to tell this to light up a Sonos speaker over AirPlay. You'll also be able to do multi-room with this and stereo pairing and all that stuff that you can do with Sonos today, but you can't do it. What if we lived in a world where you could use multiple of these to tailor? You know, it's funny, you can do that. So you can, you will be able to do that with these. And you can do that with these too. Oh God. Which is kind of fun. Tailor, back off. Which is funny. You can, and you can set up multi-room with that. It's a little, little hinky. It's better if you want multi-room. Right now, Sonos is probably the best system for doing that. People in the chat are asking us about the display on top. So I think Apple has been... You want to go close? They've been, I wouldn't say needlessly vague, but vague about what's happening with the speaker. So you see that, it lights up like that. That's not a screen. That's a bunch of multicolored LEDs under like a cloudy glass layer. It's like a hue bulb. And it's just there to show you it's active. They can't actually display anything precise on that screen. They told me it's not designed to display text. So you can't add interface elements to that or anything. And then when you do play music, white LEDs light up on the sides here. So that's cool. But that's all that's really happening there. It's just a bunch of lights. It's also on top. So if you're across the room, you can't see it easily and stuff like that, which is a little frustrating. All the other ones, except for the Sonos one, is very difficult to see its little light. But the Google ones, the Echo devices, you can see across the room, whether they've heard you or been affirmed or doing anything. So the question people ask me, are you going to buy one? I buy everything. You know what I mean? Like, it's weird that I don't want to buy this. Like, I can't figure out where it fits into my life. That surprised me, actually. And I use Apple Music. Apple Music is my primary use. You are the ideal customer for this because you use Apple Music. If you don't use Apple Music, that's an instant non-starter. You have a good home stereo, right? Yeah. But like, this thing sounds great. I am so enamored with what Apple did to make it sound good. I think it's just such cool technology. But all of the Siri stuff, all of the Apple Music restrictions, all of that to me is just like, I can't figure out where it fits. And for me to not figure out where I can just like, shove a gadget into my life is like, very strange. Just get rid of one cantaloupe. Put it in your kitchen. But then you run into the problem with Siri, which can't do like, two timers. Yeah. Okay, last question. Somebody asked, is the fabric better on the Google Home or the HomePod? This is really, you have to go to an Apple store and like, squeeze this. It's just not, it's not at all what you'd expect. Yeah. I don't think. This is like metal or plastic behind the fabric. It's plastic behind it. So funny story from my review of the Home Max. I had it up on my mantle. It fell off my mantle, because it's actually very heavy, it's 12 pounds. And I damaged the front cover, and it tears a little bit. But this is not the one that dropped, but it is a plastic cover on that. It's very, very good. Wait, we got it. We're running way over here. I'm gonna answer this question. You cannot. Sorry. You cannot use this as a standalone. You have to have an iOS device. You can't just buy it and set it up out of the box. You can't have an, if you have Apple Music on Android, you're like one of those five people, sorry, like Apple doesn't care about you. You can't even set it up with a Mac, right? You have to have an iOS device. It's iOS. Okay. That's a lot on speakers. Thank you so much for your questions. We're gonna watch a quick video. This is Nat Garan in CES, just failing to have a smart suitcase, follow her. And then we're gonna come back. Ashley's gonna be here. We're gonna talk about some instant cameras. Take a look at this. We're still years away from planes with modular cabins, completely see-through walls or trains with Hyperloop like speeds. In the meantime, travel accessories companies are selling us on a vision of future travel in the form of smart luggage. These travel gears are supposed to make things feel modern and secure, but they may cause more headache than they're worth. Take the trend in autonomous luggage. These suitcases have computer vision technology built into them so they can recognize the owner and automatically roll after them as they're walking. Now, conceptually, this is kind of neat. If you're a caretaker, having both hands free to tend to your family members is useful, especially at a place as chaotic as an airport or a train station. But in practice, the prototypes we saw have a long way to go. Take 90 Fund's Puppy One suitcase. It legitimately ran away from me. The tech is pretty impressive. It uses Segway's auto-balancing technology to propel itself, make smooth turns and ride over bumps. But it turns out it's a lot more like a puppy office leash when you throw it a curveball. A company called ForwardX makes a similar product called the CX One. This suitcase did an okay job following me around, but sometimes missed turns and would bump right into me when I stopped moving. It's hard to imagine that these bags wouldn't plow into other people in the same way in a more crowded area. Basically, it was more worth to babysit these so-called smart bags than it was to just lug my old dumb suitcase around. Not to mention that some of these smart bags could raise serious flags at TSA checkpoints. I know, because it happened to me back in 2016 with the first model of the Blue Smart Bag that had exposed wiring and a non-removable battery. Given my experience, I reached out to TSA to ask whether these new bags might cause disruption at security checkpoints, but all they told us was that they'll scan the bags as long as they're FAA compliant. And finally, there's price. These things are not cheap. With crowdfunding projects for bags you can ride and autonomous suitcases going between $1,100 to $1,500. It's great that designers and engineers are thinking about making bags that make travelers' lives easier, especially for people with mobility impairments. But just like the hyperloops and flying cars of our time, it looks like we're still a few years away from that vision of the future. We're back. All of these speakers have magically disappeared. And Ashley has appeared. How's it going, Ash? I'm here, I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm really happy that we don't have to talk to voice assistants anymore. You just get to talk to me, a real human. It's so stressful. All right, you have brought us a new instant camera. You were on the show last season to talk about the hot instant camera market that's developing. And that's the Instax, which is like the, I would say the standard bearer. Yeah, so this was the new, I came on the show last season to talk about this SQ10. This was Fujifilm's square photos. I can show you guys an example. This was the size, which is just square. It's not a mini Instax. They've previously made. And it's a digital camera as well as an instant camera. So you can take photos, store them on a micro SD, edit them within the camera. This is a beautiful photo of the office. But yeah, do different things. It's pretty simple. And it was different for them at the time. And these are like hot sellers. Yeah. People love these things. I mean, I don't know if people love them, but they're cool, they're cool. So then what is this? This thing looks great. Okay, so at CES this year. There's a fingerprint. Polaroid. Yeah, it loves fingerprints. Polaroid was like, hey, we can do square too. And so they introduced the Polaroid Pop. And that's what this is. That is so slow. It's a massive touchscreen. And it's sort of the same idea where it's a digital camera, as well as you can print photos in these big square formats. And then you also can have a micro SD. So you can put these on your computer, your phone, whatever, share them on Instagram. It is very bad. Like very bad. I wanna show you guys that really quick. I can do this. So this is actually where you load the paper. I thought this was where it printed as well. And then it prints at the top. Do you want me to show you how to take a photo on here? Okay, maybe I'll take a photo of Paul with his camera. So you have to turn this around. It's so slow. Oh, what is that face, man? I don't know, that's my Polaroid face. It just now loaded. Like it seriously is the slowest thing. Okay, there you are, Paul. So you can- Look at that guy, wow. Like you can with the Fuji film, you can edit it, but this has all of the terrible clip art stickers and things like that. So here we go, bunch of clip art. We'll just put a big question mark by you. This is like the downside of the smartphone supply chain is that people are able to do this stuff. And it's the buggiest software. It's just so bad. I don't know how they found parts that are this bad. Anymore. Oh, and- This is like a 10 year old Android phone. I can write here. So I can just write your name. So that white border is just a lie. In the sense of it doesn't contain ink. Right, so this is- It doesn't contain the photo. Or the photo, right. It's just for looks. Like here you have this whole, this is regular. It's like a real Polaroid. Yes, this is a real Polaroid. You have this here. This is just zinc paper, which is heat activated ink. And it's terrible. So I'm gonna print this out. Ashley hates zinc. I really hate zinc. But zinc is cheap. It's less than a dollar a print. Whereas real prints are expensive. So I'm gonna print this out for you, Paul, because I know you really, really want this. So we're gonna print. It's gearing up. The sound effects are awesome. I mean, to me, the whole point of this show is that we bring on things that look cool in pictures and renders and Kickstarter. Yeah, because I saw this at CS. I was like, it's cute. It's pretty. And then we turn them on and there are 10 year old Android phones inside that make horrible sounds and slowly, slow, it's still not out yet. It's still going. So one nifty feature, which again, no one, we all have smartphones. But okay, anyway, you can record video on this too. Why? In 1080p. Exactly. Do you have any print video? Yes. Yeah, my smartphone can record in like 4K 60. I know. So that's why it's dumb. I want some bust ass 1080p camera. Here we go. Here we go. 60 frames per second. Ooh. All right, here you go. So the reveal. It's a great photo of me, I gotta say. It's pretty good. Are your eyes closed? I'm also gonna show you guys. There's a companion app. Of course there is. It's just dumb because you don't need digital copies. Sean actually reviewed the SQ10. Oh, what is that sound? That's the... I think that's what she got. It's... So here's my... The Instax and the other cameras like that are... They're a part of this wave where they're like, it's a little bit of a computer, but like really it's about physical objects. It's like kind of retro looking. And then they like capture this huge market, right? And then Polaroid got mad at them because they're like, wait, that's what we do. Yeah, so Fujifilm's been around for a very long time. And in between season one and two right now, Fujifilm and Polaroid are now in a legal battle because Polaroid says that Fujifilm is infringing on its patents. Polaroid by the way, is bankrupt and sold all its intellectual property to just a whole... Oh look, we have the document on the screen here. Yes, and Neelai's a lawyer. So I brought Neelai lawyer things. I love lawyer things. Because I figured you love lawyers. I just wanna point out two things. This is the lawsuit that Fujifilm... This isn't Polaroid suing Fuji. This is Fuji just suing Polaroid for being annoying. Oh yeah, wait. So the thing they said that they're infringing on is this white border. Polaroid says Fujifilm copped the white border. I would posit that Polaroid is infringing on its own. Like, hold on. But anyway, the point of this is Polaroid, if you look at this, it's not even Polaroid anymore. It's like a holding company for trademarks. And then this is Fujifilm saying it's declaratory judgment. So they're just going to the court and they're like, can you make Polaroid go away? Which is incredible. Yeah, they say Polaroid just called them up. It's like, you owe us millions of dollars by the way. Polaroid was at one time a great American success story. So the thing is, Fuji has been a camera company. They know how to make cameras. They made a reasonably good camera that people really like. Polaroid is like a bunch of suits who bought this trademark. And it seems like they just went to Shenzhen and bought garbage parts. The worst parts. If you look at the screen, I probably can't see this on the camera. The screen is like, you're so used to your smartphone screen, which is super tightly laminated. This is like six inches under the cover glass. So bad. And so they're just trying to cash in on this like craze with the Polaroid brand, which is horrible. Paul, can I show you the off button? Cause that's my favorite thing. Cause it's so dumb. There we go. Yeah, it's just a little touch screen button. Also, just so you're aware, you can also, it also has a very, very bad companion app. I was editing a beautiful photo here. Is this just the phone app blown up cause you're on a tablet? Yeah, exactly. Yes, they have it for iOS or Android. You can see your gallery. I made this picture of Haim for him. These are photos that were taken on the camera, right? Yeah, on the pop. And now we're here. If you took a photo on your iPad or iPhone, could you print it with the camera? You could, yeah. I bet this camera's better than that one. Oh, it is. This is a 20 megapixel camera, but it's so bad. It's so bad. This is only a three megapixel camera, but it's somehow better. Right, cause it's like optimized. So the, how much does the Fuji one cost? 280. 280. And the film is about more than a dollar print. And then the pop is 200, and the prints are less than a dollar print. And they look like it. And they look like it. This is very bad. This is not a touch screen on the Fuji film, by the way. So I used to see these at parties just like constantly, and then they kind of trickled out. Do you think this fad continues on? Are they still there? Yeah, it's so fun. We actually bought a bunch of accessories, like different frames and like clips to hang things up. I think people just love them. Like why not? Yeah, well they love these white porters. Right, the white porters. Consumers are out buying cameras, they want these white porters. And then what you do is you take your phone, and you take a picture of this camera, of this photo, and you Instagram that. Right, yeah, cause that's what they're trying to get at here. It's like, oh, you want to share these photos online. No one wants to share those photos. But as we were talking about, it's like, no, you want to take a picture of the physical photo, and then share the picture of the physical photo. Yeah. That's a cool thing to do. By the way, I know everyone's hot for an update on the central core. We don't know if it's landed on the drone ship yet. Oh, is it blown up? We don't know. But there are now live shots of the car in space, which is a choice. What? Okay, good. Yeah, and they're taking them with you. Can you steer the Hubble right now, and look at a car fly through space? No, he mounted cameras on the car. Oh, Elon. All right, we've just got a few minutes left. Let's answer some of your questions. A lot of people still have HomePod questions. It's like the main thing people want to know. What do you think of the HomePod? Yeah. What do I think of it? Yeah. I like how squishy it is. It is very squishy. I was shocked when that was in a display on top. It's not. This whole time I was like, oh, it's a display. Are you a Spotify person? Yeah, but never. Would you ever switch from Spotify for sound quality? No, not for me. That's the main thing. Do you have a smart speaker? No, I use Bluetooth. What about this, though? What's up, yeah. Let's go to the archives. I was about to bring this thing out earlier. This is the iPod Hi-Fi. Look how far we've come. So this thing was my original party jam speaker. Can you see this? Let me take this off right here. Hey, look, it's got an aux in. It's got an aux in. It's got a regular power cord. And then. Battery powered? My dude. What the hell? This thing. What? There were like six D-cell batteries back in the day. So we would go to parties in college, and we'd stop at the CVS to buy D-cell batteries. Wow. For iPod Hi-Fi. This is an app for caring about standards, man. Yeah, it's crazy. And then we'd plug our iPods into it. It was great. This thing sounded incredible as well. Steve Jobs, when he introduced us on stage, he's like, I've owned speaker systems that cost more than you can imagine. This sounds better than all of them. And everyone's like, I don't know about that. It was like $700. It was ridiculously expensive. People are asking if you can set an alarm to wake you up with music on the HomePod. And the answer, I believe, is no. It's the same as Siri, whatever you can do with your phone. So you can't do that on your phone. You can set an alarm. But it's not going to be. You can pick a tone. Where are you that a $1 6-by-4 print is cheap? I don't think the point is that they're cheap. No. In the market, that's one of the cheapest. Right. That's as cheap as you're going to get for a print. Right. It's not going to be cheaper than that. Yeah. Well, it's a little less than a dollar. If you want cheap prints, you've got to walk in the dusty garden. Printing is expensive because it's so wasteful. We just need information digitally. What if I like tangible things, though? Well, is this tangible? A whole world is in here. I want to hold the photo close to my heart every day. What else we got? Everyone's asking about privacy on the HomePod. So Apple's better at privacy than every other company because they don't make their money in data. They make their money selling new things, which is another reason why not supporting Spotify is confusing because they're still selling you a HomePod. It's not like you're... It doesn't hurt them. Yeah. It's not like you're stealing. But yeah, so they don't collect any data. They try not to send anything to the cloud that they don't have to, whereas everything Amazon Google do runs in the cloud. So that, I think, is if you are interested in that, most people, I think, just happily trade away their privacy at like a moment's notice without thinking about it. But yeah, Apple is generally better at privacy things, and they're certainly not... They have no incentive to collect a bunch of your personal data. They don't want it. They're really good at making sure they don't take it when they don't need it. Should Apple make deals with Spotify and Hulu, etc. be more flexible? Well, they already have a deal with Hulu. Hulu's on the Apple TV. I think a good comparison for the HomePod is actually the Apple TV. So the Apple TV is Apple's thing. They were on the iTunes store. They will happily rent you movies. They don't allow anyone else to rent you movies on the Apple TV. But YouTube's on there. Hulu's on there. YouTube TV is on there now. PlayStation TV is on there now. There's a bunch of other TV services on the Apple TV that do everything except the one thing Apple wants to do. So you could make the argument that they're more open on the Apple TV. I mean, yeah, it's true. They're more open on the Apple TV than like the Watch or the HomePod. Do they just really need those subscribers for Apple Music? Is that what this is about? Apple makes like $1,000 billion every quarter. Yeah. The 30 million Apple Music subscribers are rounding error. I feel like in Apple's head, you'd just be sad if you were using an inferior service like Spotify. Apple doesn't want you to be sad. They want you to be glad. So they will restrict your giveaways. They will force you into their great service. And then another question. Is the thing on top a display or not? This is gonna say you. You have a lot of expectations about that thing. Because you want it to be a display. I don't know. It just should be a display. Yeah. The fact that it's just lights is like, what? Yeah. I don't know. It should be a display. It's very abstract. Also, Alexa does a thing where it points at you, which I think is the best feature of the Echo. That's really cool. You hate that. Oh, I like that. Oh, you do like that. Yeah, because it's responsive. Like, we didn't have time for it, but we put a stopwatch. One of the big differences in all of these is how quickly they respond. The HomePod is not the winner. Yeah. It's thinking hard. Siri is very slow. But you can speed up that feeling just by lighting up. I think that light is so important. You need to see that, I think, to know you're getting that interaction. Sure. Dude, this person just says, I love Spotify. Aw. I think that's Apple's big problem. People really love Spotify. I hate Spotify. I didn't know you were an Apple music person. I don't like the green color. I think Spotify's interface is just backwards. It just doesn't let you know what music is available to you. It's like, would you like another playlist? Another robot has made another playlist. One of your cooler friends is listening to this music at this time. I just want to see what's on my phone. What do you want out of a second generation HomePod? I don't know. Aux. Yeah, you're never getting that. Do you think Apple's putting a headphone jack? Well, it'd be nice if you had a headphone jack. It'd be nice if it could be your home theater audio. So many people have terrible TV audio. Or they buy a projector because projectors are great right now. But then running audio, like you put your Apple TV next to your projector, and then you have to run audio cables all the way to the front of your room or something. It's messed up. I think this is like a cautionary tale. Apple put out a speaker ages ago. They're like, we want a piece of that Bose action. Great. And then they were not committed to it. They dropped it. That market ran away from them. If you want to do HomePod and you're interested in the home, you've got to work in every room. So if you look at Amazon's lineup, they make a little one, they make a big one. They make a screen. They make one with a battery. They're like all over the place. Like, what do you want? Every one's here. You could just swallow. Yeah, Sonos makes all kinds of speakers. They make amps. They make just little boxes that connect to your existing stereo. They fit into all the rooms in your house. And not everybody needs that. Some people just need one speaker. But people want to watch on their TV. People want to watch music in more than one room at a time sometimes. And Apple has not figured out. They've not communicated at least how they're going to do all of that. So they have come up with a way where I can read Neely's texts. I think you saying it's the lonely person makes is accurate because it's like I use a speaker for when friends come over. My friends want to be like, I want to play this new song, Bluetooth or whatever it is, or just an aux cable. And now it's like, OK, you don't use Apple Music. Hopefully you have an iPhone. Yeah. All right. Or like the best the best version of the song is this like kind of live version that's on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I play music off YouTube all the time. Yeah. I will say, Ashley brought up this point. I there's a line and this we got to end the show, but there was a line in the review that was like, this is a product that seems like it was designed for a very demanding person who lives alone entirely within Apple's ecosystem. Right. I kind of meant it as a burn. Yeah. And then all these people on Twitter are like, yeah, with me. Yeah. Get out. Get out. Get out of your house. It turns out that's my Tinder profile. It's awful. All right. So that's our show for this week. Our first one on YouTube. Super excited that we're on YouTube. Super excited we're talking to you. It was really fun having the chat up and hearing from all of you while we do the show. We're back every week, Tuesday, 4 p.m. Eastern on YouTube. Ashley's going to be here. Jake's going to be here. Paul's going to be here. I'll be here. We never run out of gadgets. We literally never run out of gadgets. Tweeted us. Let us know what you want to see on the show. We will always bring it here. We will always plug it in. We will always show you exactly how it works, which is the most important thing we can do. It's always the most fun. So we'll see you here next week, 4 p.m. Tuesday.
 to start asking, we're ready for those.
 And then Ashley's gonna join us again,
 and we're gonna talk about what's happening
 with the digital instant cameras,
 which are very quietly, like a hot, controversial situation.
 Would you say at the verge that we have a bevy of experts?
 Cornucopia.
 Cornucopia of expertise.
 It's a real situation.
 But first, we're gonna get in all that,
 but first, Ashley and Jake
 are gonna walk us through the news, take it away.
 Hello, yeah, so we are rapidly approaching
 Samsung's phone season, and the leaks are starting.
 The S9 has leaked this week.
 There should be, oh, hey, look at that, there's a photo.
 So this is, it looks just like you would expect
 a Galaxy device to look like,
 but hey, this is a nice color.
 It's a lilac, maybe.
 And then also, you'll notice the fingerprint sensor
 is below the camera as opposed to next to it,
 which was a huge complaint people had.
 There was also news today that this phone
 is going to be priced more expensive than the S8,
 like right out of the gate,
 and people probably won't love that.
 So this is what we know so far is maybe what it looks like,
 and then also the Plus has dual vertically stacked cameras,
 which we don't see here,
 but it's kinda like the iPhone X.
 What's really wild to me is that a year ago,
 this design really stood out,
 and now this looks completely normal.
 This is the front of every single phone.
 Yeah, exactly, it doesn't wow you anymore.
 You're just like, oh, yeah, full display.
 I'm all about Samsung doing weird
 and interesting colors, though.
 Nobody else does this stuff.
 Yeah, we like the colors here.
 We cover every Samsung color because we love them so much.
 Love it.
 Yesterday, Intel, out of nowhere, basically,
 announced smart glasses.
 They're called Vaunt.
 We have an exclusive, hands-on,
 you should go read Dieter's article.
 We have a big video on it.
 But the gist is that these are smart glasses
 that look completely normal.
 So if you're thinking Google Glass,
 these are kinda all the way in the other direction.
 Rather than interacting with them a bunch
 with swipes and gestures
 and having a screen in front of your face,
 there's basically nothing.
 There is just some lasers
 that shoot a little projection into your eye,
 and you don't even see it all the time.
 It's just in your peripheral vision.
 It'll show some notifications, some contextual information.
 But it's basically just supposed to stay out of the way
 so that it's there when you want it,
 but not when you are actually talking to people
 and trying to interact with the rest of the world.
 I think it's a really neat and interesting approach,
 and it sounds like they've learned a lot of the lessons
 that Google did not realize when it first did Glass.
 Like people don't wanna wear a computer on their face.
 Yeah, exactly.
 So they definitely still have a lot to prove,
 but they're supposed to come out with a developer version
 by the end of the year.
 Yeah, I definitely am really interested
 when people start using this
 and how people interact with each other
 while they technically are wearing a computer on their face.
 Like how I'm gonna talk to you right now,
 but also be like silently watching my Twitter feed.
 Oh, you're gonna get all kinds of, no.
 I'll give you full attention sometimes.
 So iPhone X, we all know it for its notch.
 And now Chinese phone manufacturers
 are introducing a bunch of notch knockoffs,
 as we've started calling them.
 So this is the Ocatell one.
 You could see there's the notch.
 And then we have another one that just came out as well
 called the NOA N10, also has a notch.
 What's interesting about these is that,
 like the notch is great.
 We like the notch, but you're not fooling.
 Like no one's going to see this and think,
 oh, that's an iPhone X.
 Like this is not an iPhone X body.
 Also the screen doesn't go all the way to the bottom.
 You have also the Android navigations.
 I mean, it's just not fooling anyone,
 but you have a notch.
 Right, like, so Android's not optimized for this,
 which is like gonna be horrible.
 Right, people have waited for their favorite apps
 to be optimized, and Android definitely
 is not going to have those apps.
 I know people like the notches are very controversial.
 I actually think it is cool because it's like instantly
 identifiable, which I think is what they're going for here.
 But like, it's pretty clear that this is not an iPhone.
 Yeah, I really like the notch.
 But I don't know if I like it on the notch knockoffs.
 Yes.
 Microsoft last week dropped the price
 on two of its Surface laptops quite a bit.
 The Surface Book 2 went down by $300.
 The Surface laptop went down by $200.
 Did I say that right? $300 and $200.
 This is a pretty big decrease, which
 is great because it's going to help get more
 people into the line for them.
 But the downside is that they have
 worse specs, a slower processor, or less storage.
 I think that's an OK trade-off in some cases.
 But you know, it's not necessarily the best thing.
 It's not like they just dropped the price
 on the current entry level.
 They made like a new entry level that's a bit cheaper.
 I guess as to why this happened is because the Surface devices
 haven't been selling quite as well as people expect them to.
 I thought they were doing really well.
 They were doing surprisingly well.
 But when Microsoft announced their earnings recently,
 I think it was like a 1% year-over-year growth, which
 is probably why they're trying to get more people
 in with these lower prices.
 And you get the fancy fabric.
 Totally.
 They're nice looking computers.
 That you can care for, definitely.
 OK, and finally, this week we saw
 that HP has decided that it's going
 to introduce new smart assistant skills for Alexa
 or Google Home, whichever, so that you
 can talk to your printer and apparently shout at it
 to print you Sudoku puzzles.
 I don't know why this was their example.
 They just really want you to just shout and say,
 hey printer, or whatever your keyword is, and say,
 hey printer, print me this document.
 I don't even know what you say to a printer.
 Print the thing.
 Right.
 You need to have a document open.
 Like, I don't understand.
 That's why I don't understand.
 Because you're always at a computer.
 Are they operating a cloud service for Sudoku puzzles?
 Like.
 He has, you know, it's not clear.
 OK.
 Jake, it's really just not clear.
 But yeah, I figure you're always at a computer anyways,
 looking at the document, thinking, OK, you know what
 would be nice?
 I'd like to have this printed.
 Let me just print.
 Yeah.
 Instead, you're going to be like, wait,
 this would be nice if I printed.
 Set this aside.
 Yeah.
 Alexa, I need this printed.
 While you're with your family, you're going out to dinner,
 be like, now.
 When does the idea ever strike that you're walking
 around your kitchen and you're like, you know what?
 I forgot to print that thing.
 Whatever.
 Good for you, HB.
 Keep doing you.
 All right.
 So we're going to give it right back now to Paul and Eli.
 We're back.
 Sean O'Kane is here.
 Hello, Sean.
 I bumped into you.
 I'm a little jittery.
 Just watched a gigantic rocket take off from Cape Canaveral.
 Yeah.
 OK.
 So Sean is a reporter on our transportation team.
 He's here to talk about drones.
 But this is true.
 You also cover a bunch of space with our traffic space reporter
 Lauren Grosh, who is at Cape Canaveral.
 She is.
 She just saw the thing go into the sky and do its thing.
 We were all watching that stream right before the show started.
 And then the little ones landed.
 Yep.
 That's the technical term.
 So let's just talk about it.
 We can't ignore it.
 Yeah.
 Sean, you cover a bunch of space.
 Tell us how important Falcon Heavy was.
 I mean, if we ever want to do more than we're already
 doing in space, we need bigger rockets
 to do things that are more impressive than the things
 we've been doing with big rockets.
 So like go to the moon?
 Go to the moon, go to Mars, bring heavier.
 If we ever want to do internet in space based on satellites,
 we need heavier lift rockets.
 And so SpaceX had a pretty clever solution
 to this, which was this sort of multiple rockets strapped
 together solution, which we've seen before.
 But their whole idea is they're going to land them all.
 We know that two of the three landed.
 We're not sure about the one that's supposed to land in sea
 yet.
 The last one lands on a drone ship.
 But I mean, it was one of those things
 where no one was really totally sure it was going
 to survive the whole thing.
 I mean, the whole point, the whole goal was don't explode.
 Yeah.
 Basically, that's what Elon Musk said.
 Way overachieved the goal.
 He said, as long as it doesn't ruin the launch pad, I'm fine.
 And so it didn't.
 So the bonus points is Elon Musk's Tesla is the payload.
 Which kind of looks like this drone.
 Oh.
 A transition shot.
 Yeah, there's a Tesla in space now.
 Whatever.
 That's crazy.
 My favorite part of this is that Paul was asking sort of,
 they can't land the Tesla on Mars.
 Because we don't want to contaminate Mars.
 He said yesterday on a press conference
 that there is a tiny, tiny chance it hits Mars.
 Which he'll actually be in some deep water if it does.
 But it's not going to.
 He's going to miss it by a lot.
 He's just trying to make a spectacle out of it.
 I'm ready to contaminate Mars.
 The first thing we contaminate Mars with should not be Elon
 Musk's car.
 That's what you think.
 All right, Sean.
 Anyways.
 The Falcon Heavy is super exciting.
 I was actually sad that it was running into our show
 because I wanted to watch it.
 But all the timing worked out.
 We got to watch it.
 And now we're here to talk about drones.
 Other things that fly.
 Maybe not quite as high.
 This is the DJI Mavic Air.
 It just came out, right?
 Just came out.
 They announced it, god, two weeks ago.
 Maybe three.
 Put it on sale less than a week later.
 They've gotten really good at this sort of maybe some rumors
 and stuff leak.
 But otherwise, here's the thing.
 It's available next week.
 Get ready.
 I think they're a company that's really
 honed their product presence over the last couple of years.
 And they've made really good products.
 This is sort of the latest and greatest from them.
 And if you're familiar with the DJI lineup,
 there's the Mavic Pro at the top.
 We have right here on bottom.
 It's like the Inspire, the Phantom.
 There's a whole lot more.
 Of the more portable ones, right?
 The ones that are at $1,000 or less.
 And so we've got the Mavic Pro, which is a little bit more
 than $1,000.
 The Spark, which is the one they released a couple months ago,
 maybe even, or I guess back in 2017,
 which is a more approachable drone for people
 who are just starting out.
 And then now this is the Mavic Air.
 And it sort of slots in between those two.
 But it also kind of replaces the Mavic Pro.
 It's in many ways, other than maybe battery life
 and a couple small details, it's basically
 this in this package, which is pretty wild.
 So what's the point of it?
 Do you guys line up, it's either the simplest thing
 in the world or the most complicated?
 Yeah, this probably complicated things a little bit.
 This is $799.
 You can get it for $999 with a whole bunch of extra batteries
 and sort of extra propellers and things like that.
 But you do get a lot for $799.
 This is $399.
 Used to be $600, right?
 Used to be $500 and $600 with all the extra stuff.
 So this one's really still the entry level.
 What complicates things is if this is really replacing this,
 but they're still selling this for more,
 that's where it's a little bit weird.
 This one folds up to be this big.
 Yeah.
 And that one folds up to be smaller.
 This folds up into a profile that is, yes, even smaller
 than the Spark.
 So the Spark is obviously lighter.
 I'm showing you this later.
 The Spark is lighter than the Mavic Air.
 You got a handy carrying case.
 Yeah, and this is a carrying case that comes in.
 The case is smaller than the case from a Nintendo Switch.
 Yeah.
 That's ridiculous.
 I didn't quite wrap it up.
 So I bought a Phantom.
 Before DJI went on this tear, before the first Mavic came
 out, I bought a Phantom 4.
 And I was like, this is the one.
 This is the consumer grab.
 Richy rich.
 Well, my forthcoming child is not going to college now.
 But she can look at my drone flying in the air.
 But I thought that was like, we've hit the pinnacle.
 This is a small.
 And then DJI just went on this absolute tear
 with these smaller and smaller drones.
 And then the Spark, and now the Air,
 all within the last year and a half.
 So which one do you buy?
 So the split for me is the same split.
 I think that one of our videographers and directors
 at West, Viren, who did the review of the Mavic Air,
 I think he elucidated it pretty well in his review.
 The split is, if you're doing any kind of professional work,
 weddings, landscape photography, things like that,
 you're probably still better off opting for the Phantom,
 the Phantom 4, the Phantom 4 Pro,
 depending on there's a couple different versions.
 That's work.
 It's actually really confusing.
 But if you're just a hobbyist, or if portability really,
 really matters to you, the Mavic Air is for sure the one
 you want.
 Yeah.
 Let's see.
 This might do a little bit of damage to the propellers.
 But you can fit it in a pie.
 And we're going to fly it in the studio.
 This is a good reason to wear cargo pants.
 Yes.
 You said it.
 Finally.
 Finally.
 And it's just, the value really comes from the ability
 to not be lugging around.
 Because if you've ever seen anybody use the Phantom 4 Pro,
 or the Phantom 4, and you know this.
 It's huge.
 And the box that you have to fit it in,
 because none of it folds up.
 It's got those big landing legs.
 And even this was a little bit heavy.
 You've always got this exposed, whereas the camera now
 is sort of tucked in here on the Mavic Air.
 The Mavic Air has the same camera system as the Mavic Pro.
 So the image quality is the same.
 And the only benefit you really still get with the Mavic Pro,
 the new version of it, the Mavic Pro Platinum,
 is you get a few more extra minutes of battery life.
 This also works over RF with the controller,
 as opposed to Wi-Fi, which means the range is a little bit
 longer than the Mavic Air.
 But I mean, the Mavic Air, those are your trade-offs.
 You want to get slightly less range by a mile or two.
 So do you have any connection problems with the controller?
 Yeah, so people on YouTube, Jordan on YouTube here
 is saying in the chat, he's pointing out
 this uses Wi-Fi to connect.
 And you get a little bit less range.
 And people are pointing out the video signal to your phone
 or whatever is less good.
 I don't think that matters.
 As long as you can see what it's doing, it doesn't matter.
 Especially because if I were to use it,
 I would use it especially for photography and videography
 more than just the fun of flying it.
 And that kind of stuff usually really bothers me
 if the video is cutting out.
 I didn't experience that with this.
 I didn't fly it too far away because it's been really windy
 all weekend here.
 How did it wind?
 It actually held up pretty well.
 Gusts of like 25.
 No, it really didn't.
 That was the weirdest thing about it.
 If you were filming straight through,
 trying to pull off a smooth maneuver,
 anything above 15 miles an hour was
 starting to give it a little bit of trouble
 as far as it would correct.
 And you can see that in the footage.
 Does it fight the wind or does it just go with the flow?
 There's a tolerance.
 If a gust comes at some point, you
 can see it in the footage in the way that the gimbal, which
 is trying to hold it steady, would all of a sudden
 just sort of jump and finally give in.
 But it held up pretty well.
 And the battery life, I think when
 you're working with a max of 21, the differences
 of what you're going to get are pretty small anyways.
 So Paul, if you can show this camera.
 So we asked DJI about this too.
 I think all of us have asked about the Wi-Fi versus RF.
 So these are actually the Wi-Fi antennas in these lights.
 And the reason that, at least they told me,
 I'm sure they told you the same thing,
 they can't fit the RF components into a chassis this small
 to do the custom RF signal.
 So they had to go with this boosted Wi-Fi.
 And especially because this has seven cameras on it.
 You can see all the way around.
 It has cameras on basically every surface, which
 means that it has obstacle avoidance in every direction
 now, which they haven't had in these other smaller drones
 before.
 To the point that it even has a mode where you can set it to,
 it's called APAS.
 I forget what it stands for right now.
 But basically, instead of what this would do
 if it saw something approaching it,
 it would just stop so it wouldn't crash, which is great.
 But what this can do is, with enough cameras on it,
 it can actually sort of plot out a path
 to get around the obstacle.
 So if you've set the drone to sort of like follow
 a mountain biker, and you just let it go and follow
 that path, but all of a sudden there's
 a tree that you didn't really think was in the way, but is,
 it can move around that, and it won't really
 disturb that shot too much.
 It'll keep that person in focus.
 It just feels like they're not holding anything back.
 They're not like, well, this is the mid-tier.
 We better make sure that it doesn't eclipse this one.
 They're just like, here's what we have technology-wise.
 We're putting it in a drone.
 Here you go.
 I think it was a bold move to sort of just like up
 and essentially kind of replace this.
 But it does sort of pave the path for them
 to do something new with this like $1,000 and up version
 that they have.
 You know, like they can maybe make the Phantom 4 a little bit
 smaller now.
 Or maybe they could do something even crazier,
 like 40-minute battery life in this form factor or something.
 I know, right?
 We've got to talk about these controllers.
 Yeah, and so they're real different.
 So this is the Mavic.
 That's the Mavic Pro's controller,
 which has an integrated screen in there
 to give you some basic information,
 but it's still meant for you to plug your phone in to use
 as the viewfinder.
 What I really like about, this is such a small little detail,
 but the joysticks on the new Mavic Air controller
 tuck right in here so that when you pack it up,
 like I'm a kind of person that just throws stuff in his bag
 and the objects suffer the consequences, whereas here you
 can take these off the end, plug them in,
 and you're not having these get mangled up in your,
 or catch something else in a bag.
 And then you just take your phone, get Face ID on,
 and slot it in.
 Are we going to light this thing up?
 I think we should, right?
 I mean, we're here.
 That's the whole point of the show.
 Another thing to know about the Mavic Air
 is that it has some more advanced gesture controls
 compared to the Spark.
 The Spark you were able to let fly off your hand
 and everything.
 Oh my gosh.
 The Mavic Air you can actually take off from the ground.
 So if I was standing in front of this right now,
 I could hold my hand out.
 It would recognize that.
 It would fly up and do things like that.
 And I will say, I have watched a lot of videos
 that people have put online just for our own sanity.
 Oh, come on.
 What's the point of flying without it if you want?
 Let's do it.
 All right, let's do it.
 What are we here for?
 That's why the people watch.
 It's like NASCAR.
 There is this guy in Texas.
 Oh, I got to turn the remote on.
 That probably will help.
 There's this guy in Texas who was just
 standing out in the middle of nowhere,
 and he was only able to get about, I want to say,
 like a mile and a half range.
 And they're advertising two and a half miles of this.
 So I do still think if you're a skilled pilot who's
 still flying very far away, you're probably not going
 to want to opt for the Air.
 It's like the perfect thing to always have at the ready.
 Maybe if you're a pro, you fly with your Phantom.
 But this is the thing that you always have ready
 whenever you need it.
 I'm terrified.
 Yeah, you should be.
 Thanks, Sean.
 Here's the thing.
 It can totally go worse than the Falcon Heavy launch,
 because the Falcon Heavy launch actually went really well.
 Last time we flew the full-size Mavic in a hotel room.
 Without guards?
 Without guards.
 We're not guards.
 Lauren just lit it up and took off.
 All right.
 I'm just backing up a little bit.
 All right, here we go.
 I realize I put out a lot of bravery and confidence.
 Whoa.
 Nice.
 That's awfully windy.
 So with the spark, you can like.
 So it's loud.
 They haven't made it any quieter than the Mavic Pro Platinum.
 The Mavic Pro Platinum has these new propellers
 that are quieter, about 10 decibels.
 So this is definitely not quieter.
 No.
 So it's smaller, which means it's discreet.
 But people still know when you take off.
 Yeah, so there's us.
 OK, let's take a.
 Oh, and here's the thing.
 I forgot to put a memory card back in this,
 but it has eight gigs of internal storage now.
 So.
 Oh, and it's full.
 All right.
 Now I wonder if.
 All right.
 It's not working.
 Yeah, I think I had turned on the gesture recognition.
 But I will say.
 Come back.
 Oh, I am so ready to run.
 We'll just set it down over there.
 Here's what I'm going to do.
 I'm going to throw my camera at it.
 Because it wasn't backing up.
 So we'll just land it over there.
 I will say it is as someone who's
 flown a couple of these different drones in the past,
 it is like really easy to fly.
 Like they've really smoothed out sort of all the algorithms
 as far as like how it balances itself out.
 It has a sport mode that does 42 and a half miles an hour,
 which is actually terrifying.
 I flew that around a field and then I brought it back
 towards me and the distance it needs to stop.
 I wasn't sort of ready for it.
 So it's like almost.
 The smart features.
 The is that like a kill all humans mode
 where where it will just go right into something
 and it just takes you in the middle of the field,
 which is kind of cool.
 So it's like a level of skill.
 It's not like a.
 It's like a hard low.
 You're not gonna get the same kind of
 speed as if you're driving it.
 Or does it still have obstacle avoidance?
 You'll lose some of the obstacle avoidance.
 I think when it's far out,
 like I remember bringing it up to a certain height
 and it would tell me that it would lose some of that.
 But yeah, it's otherwise relatively easy to fly.
 Is there another drone from another company?
 No.
 Hey guys,
 This is from the archives.
 You know, dead, Karma.
 He wrote a thing over a year ago,
 almost, yeah, a year and a half ago.
 I like that we stripped this of its propellers
 to really give it that good fish feel.
 DJI's only real competition is itself at this point.
 All the other ones don't really compare.
 The Karma was like, I don't know,
 maybe in another generation or two it could compete a bit.
 Even CEO Nick Woodman of GoPro has admitted
 there's just no way that they were not vertically
 integrated enough to make something new
 as fast as a company like DJI.
 So these are really, this is like where you wanna look
 if you are looking to get into drones.
 I still think if you've never flown one before,
 Spark's still the best way to go.
 It's cheapest.
 Still does a decent video, at least for social.
 Maybe not for pro work, but the real killer would be
 if you could fold those legs in.
 That's the only thing, is like if you have
 a couple extra hundred bucks to spare,
 oh, it's down on the ground.
 The Air does tuck in pretty nicely.
 Well, look, I can't think of a better thing
 to take photos of my new baby with
 than a drone.
 And a terrifying thing.
 Everyone, by the way, everyone in the chat
 was noticing that sound is incredibly threatening.
 Yeah, it's not.
 Drones are always threatening.
 I get really.
 I'll go rescue the drone if that's okay.
 I get a lot of social anxiety,
 so I went like all the way outside the city
 to fly this thing, and I set it down in a park
 and there was almost nobody around me,
 and then it fired up and I was like,
 oh, God, this is too much.
 Like everybody knows that I'm flying this thing,
 and they just can't see it because it's smaller.
 Exactly, okay, everyone wants to know
 if the Core Booster landed.
 I think you probably are dying to know.
 I do too, yeah, I need to know.
 So we're gonna let Sean go.
 We're gonna find out what's going on with the Core Booster.
 We'll let you know on the livestream here.
 But we're gonna take a quick break.
 We're gonna watch a little bit of the HomePod review
 to get through some of the super nitty gritty
 technical details, and then Dan Sievert's gonna be here.
 We're gonna have basically every smart speaker
 that we can get our hands on, plus the HomePod.
 Ask us your questions in the chat.
 We're ready to answer them.
 We're ready to ask Siri your questions.
 Let's watch this video.
 We'll be right back.
 So this is the HomePod.
 The HomePod is Apple's answer to the Google Home
 and the Amazon Echo and every other smart speaker
 out there with a voice assistant.
 It's a $350 speaker that has Siri.
 The basic idea is pretty simple.
 It's covered in a weird spongy fabric.
 There's a touch display on top,
 and it's surprisingly heavy.
 But the HomePod is pretty limited.
 Siri just can't do as much as other assistants,
 and the only music service you can control
 with your voice is Apple Music.
 If you're a Spotify person,
 the HomePod is probably not for you.
 And I think Apple knows it's pretty limited
 because all of the company's focus is on sound quality.
 The truth is most other smart speakers sound crappy,
 and the HomePod sounds incredible.
 We've been comparing it to the new Amazon Echo,
 a bunch of Sonos speakers, including the new Sonos one
 and the Play 5, the Google Home and the Google Home Max,
 and even Bluetooth speakers like the UE Megaboom.
 And it's just obviously better than all of them.
 The HomePod isn't just one speaker.
 It's actually eight of them,
 all controlled by an A8 processor
 and tons of custom software.
 There are seven tweeters that fire down and out
 from the bottom and a single four-inch woofer
 pointing out of the top for low frequencies.
 There's also a total of seven microphones,
 six around the middle for Siri and a seventh inside
 that measures the location of that woofer
 so Apple can precisely control the bass.
 When you first plug in the HomePod and start playing music,
 it goes through a series of steps
 that tune the speaker to the room it's in.
 First, it uses the mics to detect any walls nearby
 so it knows how sound will bounce off of them.
 Second, it uses those seven tweeters
 to form a virtual array of sound beams
 that are assigned to direct and ambient sounds
 like vocals and applause.
 The ambient channels are pointed at the walls to reflect
 and the direct sounds are pointed out at the listener.
 Sometime during all of that,
 it detects the walls again
 to refine the model of the room it's in.
 Then it analyzes the difference
 between the left and right channels
 of the music you're playing
 to figure out what sound should go into what beams,
 ambient or direct.
 And then it measures the position of the subwoofer
 and the reflections of the bass constantly
 as you're playing music
 to make sure the bass doesn't overwhelm
 the rest of the music.
 And all of this happens at once within like 10 seconds.
 If you move the HomePod,
 an accelerometer inside detects motion
 and it does it all over again.
 In terms of ideas I'm into,
 a virtual array of sound beams
 that points guitar solos at my face
 is super high on the list.
 We're back, Dan Seifert's here.
 Hi. How's it going, buddy?
 I'm doing well.
 I'm all right.
 I've spent a lot of time talking to Siri.
 Uh-huh, that's a fun time.
 It's all right.
 So you have reviewed most of the other smart speakers.
 I just reviewed the HomePod,
 we just watched that video.
 I've had it for about a week now.
 Apple took me to, they didn't take me,
 they invited me to Cupertino.
 I took myself there.
 Paid our own way as we always do.
 But went out to Cupertino,
 hung out with their hardware VP,
 hung out with their head engineer for audio,
 hung out with Phil Schiller,
 walked through their audio labs
 and saw how their engineers got really deep
 in how the HomePod works.
 You listened to a lot of Hotel California.
 We listened to a lot of Hotel California,
 which is a true experience.
 The video, you just watched it.
 I think what's happening on the audio side of the HomePod
 is super impressive and cool.
 I'm an audio nerd.
 I have all kinds of speakers in my house.
 Usually I don't love a lot of audio processing.
 This thing is doing so much computing
 to make itself sound good all of the time
 that I, just the part where it has seven speakers here.
 So you think all seven speakers
 are doing something different.
 The seven speakers are actually making
 three virtual speakers and they're firing
 back against the wall or out to the front.
 Like all of that is so cool.
 There's a microphone inside that measures
 the position of the subwoofer.
 I don't trust it.
 And it precisely controls that position.
 I don't trust the UI.
 Yeah.
 Back in my day, two bookshelf speakers, a nice amp.
 Some sliders.
 Yeah, you need that graphic EQ.
 No, I don't even need a EQ.
 So we're just gonna start going in on questions here.
 First question everybody asked in the chat,
 is there a mute switch?
 Hmm, that's a good question.
 And the answer is basically no.
 So all the other ones, the Echo here is,
 the Echo is muted, you can see it's red.
 The Sonos one, you push the button on top, it mutes.
 The mic is muted.
 The Google Home devices have switches.
 Here's what you can do with the HomePod,
 which is not necessarily great.
 You can say, hey Siri, stop listening.
 And then Siri, Siri.
 And there's no confirmation.
 Now it confirms it just didn't work.
 Hey Siri, stop listening.
 I can turn off Hey Siri, but if I do,
 you'll need to press the top of the device
 to get my attention.
 Is this what you want?
 Yes.
 Okay, I've turned off Hey Siri.
 So now it's off.
 So now if you wanna, you can be like.
 Nope.
 You gotta hold it down.
 There you go.
 What's the weather?
 You know, it'll do it.
 Or it won't.
 It's still, there you go.
 It's currently cloudy and 37 degrees and eight.
 So Siri is a lot more responsive.
 Now if you wanna turn,
 actually you do need Paul Campol.
 If you wanna turn that back on,
 you go into the Home app.
 Okay.
 And then you force touch on HomePod
 and then you press details.
 Get rid of my Slack messages.
 And then you go here and you gotta click that back on.
 Oh, nice.
 It's easy.
 It's a bunch of steps.
 No problem.
 The other thing that I pointed out in the review video,
 everyone focused on Spotify,
 we'll get into Spotify in a second.
 I think this is actually the bigger problem
 with the HomePod.
 Right now, the way it is configured,
 you just hit yes on all the setup prompts.
 The setup is super easy.
 Just blast through it.
 It will just let anyone read my texts.
 Hey Siri.
 Wait, wait, wait.
 Let me see what my last text is.
 Okay.
 Is it SFW?
 Say read my most recent text message.
 Hey Siri, read my most recent text message.
 It's from Walt.
 I found your most recent message from Walt Mossberg.
 Oh, look at you.
 Cool.
 Would you like to reply?
 That's it.
 No.
 That's crazy.
 Okay.
 No.
 Just stay away.
 That is bonkers.
 Right?
 Anybody in your house who's relative.
 And the gate is if you're just on the same wifi network.
 Yeah.
 How do you turn that off?
 Okay, watch this.
 Okay.
 Okay.
 So if you're in a dorm,
 and you're on the dorm wifi,
 and it's expensive,
 but some college students are gonna buy this.
 You're on the dorm wifi,
 and you leave your dorm room,
 and you're like in the dining hall,
 someone can walk up to your closed door,
 and like yell the wake word,
 and ask it to read your text messages,
 and it will just do it.
 So you just turn that off.
 So here's how you turn it off.
 This is a lot of steps.
 So this is the HomePod settings.
 Sure.
 Oh.
 That's fine.
 Yeah, so you're already in there
 because you've gone through the process.
 Yeah.
 It's not there.
 It's here.
 In the compass?
 Is that a compass?
 Yeah, so you go here,
 and then you pick your house,
 and you do that.
 I wanna show you my email address.
 It's here.
 And you turn it off there.
 So it's like not in the HomePod settings,
 it's in your house settings.
 That's logical.
 Not sensible.
 So this is a HomeKit device?
 It's a HomeKit device.
 So those two things,
 just those two little configuration things
 where you don't want anybody to roll up to it
 and read your text,
 and turning the mic on and off,
 they just require you to operate your phone
 in a way that none of these other devices
 really want you to use your phone.
 Like the Alexa app is horrible.
 Like it is actively designed
 to make you not want to use it.
 It almost feels intentionally so, yeah.
 Because they just want you to talk to Alexa.
 The Home app is fine,
 but Google just wants you to talk to it, whatever.
 The HomePod to me is just directly connected to your phone.
 Your individual phone.
 On the review I called it lonely,
 and I think that's like,
 sad.
 Yeah.
 Like that part's sad to me.
 All right, what else do people want to know?
 Also Siri,
 I mean we just have,
 hey Siri.
 Hey Siri.
 Play some music.
 Sure.
 Let's kick things off with planets and stars
 by first code.
 Sure.
 That's weird.
 Hey Siri.
 Play Taylor Swift.
 We're just gonna do this.
 We're just gonna deal with the licensing issues.
 Sure.
 Here's a personalized station of Taylor Swift.
 Personalized to me.
 This is Neal's favorite.
 It's my favorite.
 So you can be like,
 hey Siri,
 who plays the bass on this song?
 I don't know who plays that instrument for this band.
 And that is basically the Siri experience.
 Yeah.
 A lot of I don't know.
 A lot of I don't know.
 Hey Siri,
 how much does HomePod weigh?
 Everything you need to know about HomePods
 is on Apple's website.
 Ask Alexa though.
 All right.
 Alexa,
 how much does a HomePod weigh?
 Private residence's average weight is 100 pounds.
 Private residence?
 What?
 How much does a private?
 You just asked how much does a home weigh
 and just like gave it.
 That's what I said, right?
 Apple HomePod.
 We did this before, right?
 Yeah.
 Alexa,
 how much does a HomePod weigh?
 Apple HomePod weighs 5.5 pounds.
 There we go.
 And Google has it wrong
 because the answer is wrong in Google.
 So it's just like,
 it's Siri.
 It works as well as Siri works
 in that it's supposed to be able to tell you
 who's playing on all the songs that you listen to.
 It's not.
 We can't show you what it sounds like here.
 Like we're just not set up for that in the studio.
 If you watch the video,
 we set up a really fancy binaural microphone.
 Put some headphones on.
 We played the same song through all the speakers
 in a pretty good location in my house.
 And you can actually hear a difference,
 not like the difference.
 You really need to hear it in person.
 But the biggest question,
 the controversy of the morning is Spotify
 because I said in the review,
 it doesn't work with Spotify.
 And Jonathan Morrison,
 who's a good dude who I like,
 and we watch his videos,
 he collabs with us.
 His video is like,
 yes, you can use it with Spotify.
 Here's the difference.
 I'm gonna explain this to everybody.
 You can AirPlay to this
 using virtually any app on your phone
 that supports AirPlay.
 You push the button, it's on your phone,
 and send it over over AirPlay.
 AirPlay supports some playback commands.
 So you can basically play, pause,
 next track, previous track.
 It's a big fancy remote control.
 But because it doesn't have buttons,
 you can just say next track, backtrack.
 It will send that command to your phone over AirPlay,
 and that will pass to Spotify.
 So you get like remote control.
 So it's considered Spotify support.
 Yeah, that's not Spotify support.
 Spotify, it's not like running Spotify.
 It doesn't know it's Spotify.
 It's just sending these like.
 Yeah, you can't ask it what song it is.
 It's the same as my Bluetooth speaker
 has playback controls on the top,
 and it will like lightly control the thing.
 It also doesn't have Bluetooth.
 Doesn't have, you can't Bluetooth through it.
 Doesn't have AUS.
 Well, let me just finish this thought.
 Oh, I'm sorry.
 What you want, it's an iOS computer.
 It's your review, it's your review.
 It has an A processor.
 It should just be able,
 you should just be able to set Spotify as a default.
 Say, hey, play me a song.
 Absolutely.
 And it should just play it from Spotify.
 So there's this limited support
 for playback controls on any AirPlay app.
 Spotify, Tidal, Pandora, what have you.
 I think that is very different than controlling Spotify.
 It sounds like what you're saying is that this sounds great,
 but it's a big dummy.
 But isn't that true of any truly great rockstar?
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 People are asking about the power cord in the chat.
 The power cord is incredibly nice.
 Let's get a little closer.
 So it's super nice, but it's also permanently attached.
 Which means that if you vacuum it
 or your cat tears it or whatever,
 you have to go get the whole thing repaired.
 Whereas virtually every other one of these
 has a detachable power cord that you can replace very easily.
 Which just seems like a weird thing.
 But it is a very, it reminds me of a vacuum.
 Okay, here's the other big question
 that just caught in the chat
 from where I was asking in the chat here.
 Can you play music on the Apple TV
 and have it play in the HomePod at the same time?
 That sounds like a great idea.
 So it's a $350 speaker.
 It's, you know, if you're a normal-ish person,
 it's probably the best speaker you're gonna own.
 You probably wanna play your TV out of it.
 If you have an Apple TV,
 you can set the Apple TV to AirPlay to it
 like any other AirPlay speaker.
 That will, connection will last
 until you ask it to play music.
 Then it will lose that connection.
 And then when you go to watch the Apple TV again,
 you have to go back into settings
 and set it to AirPlay again.
 Are the settings in the HomeKit app or on the Apple TV?
 No, they're on the Apple TV.
 So every time you watch something,
 you gotta make sure you're connected to the HomePod
 as an AirPlay device.
 Which seems incredibly cool.
 It seems incredibly inconvenient.
 You also, if you have an Apple,
 if you don't have an Apple TV,
 you can't use it as a TV speaker.
 If you have an Apple TV and a PlayStation,
 you can't use it as the PlayStation speaker,
 just the Apple TV.
 So I don't think it's ready to be a TV-connected speaker
 unless literally all you have in your life
 is Apple products and you only use the Apple TV
 and you're willing to deal with that AirPlay nonsense
 in the middle.
 That's my goal.
 Are you saying this is the best speaker on this table
 or like one of the best speakers you've ever heard?
 It's one of the best speakers I've ever heard.
 Without a doubt.
 It is, I mean like, okay,
 it is the best speaker on this table.
 I think, Dan, I think you reviewed the Home Max.
 I did, yes.
 And you know, the funny part is like
 any one of these in a vacuum is going to sound really good.
 Like the Home Max, if you don't compare it to anything else,
 if this is the speaker you bought and you put in your house,
 you're probably gonna be really happy with the way it sounds.
 The same for the Sonos One, sounds excellent on its own.
 These two are a little different.
 They, you know, they kind of sound like garbage right away.
 But when you compare them head to the head and side by side,
 the HomePod basically stands out from everything.
 It fills a room better.
 It's got better bass response without getting muddy.
 It just sounds more full.
 And like, there are certain things that maybe
 the Sonos One is a little clearer on certain frequencies,
 but overall, most people, I would say like 99 out of 100,
 if in a blind test are gonna probably pick the HomePod
 as the one.
 So we,
 The Home Max is very loud and very big,
 but it has this like weird scooped sound,
 which means that it has a very low mid range,
 but like boosted bass and boosted treble.
 So it has this kind of weird sound.
 In the Home app, a lot of people ask me this,
 the Home app does have EQ settings,
 but the, I agree with Dan,
 it sounds like really boosted bass, really boosted treble.
 You know what slider isn't in the Home app's EQ settings?
 Mid range.
 Oh no.
 So it's just like, you can't fix it.
 When you compare this to say like a Sonos Play 5,
 which is roughly the same size
 and the same price range and everything,
 this just sounds like it has this like filter
 over the sound that's like softening it
 and you lose a lot of that clarity for some reason.
 But like I said, if you never compare it,
 I think we're probably,
 like reviewers are the only ones
 who are gonna compare these head to head.
 If someone buys this and puts it in their house,
 they're gonna probably be really happy with it.
 But you know, there are better options out there.
 So I think these are the two best.
 I actually, I really don't like the way the Home Max sounds.
 That's my personal taste.
 It's all very subjective.
 Head to head, this sounds better than the Sonos,
 but again, this sounds really good.
 And it lets you do Spotify
 and it lets you control Spotify with Alexa.
 So, and, sorry.
 It's like a danger of the workplace here.
 And Sonos is like a music platform.
 So you can get all kinds of Sonos speakers
 and fit all kinds of rooms
 and Spotify Connect is on all kinds of devices.
 You can't do the stereo pairing with this.
 Not yet.
 And AirPlay 2 isn't out.
 When AirPlay 2 comes out, Sonos will support it.
 And you'll be able to tell this
 to light up a Sonos speaker over AirPlay.
 You'll also be able to do multi-room with this
 and stereo pairing and all that stuff
 that you can do with Sonos today, but you can't do it.
 What if we lived in a world
 where you could use multiple of these to tailor?
 You know, it's funny,
 you can do that. So you can,
 you will be able to do that with these.
 And you can do that with these too.
 Oh God.
 Which is kind of fun.
 Tailor, back off.
 Which is funny.
 You can, and you can set up multi-room with that.
 It's a little, little hinky.
 It's better if you want multi-room.
 Right now, Sonos is probably the best system for doing that.
 People in the chat are asking us about the display on top.
 So I think Apple has been...
 You want to go close?
 They've been, I wouldn't say needlessly vague,
 but vague about what's happening with the speaker.
 So you see that, it lights up like that.
 That's not a screen.
 That's a bunch of multicolored LEDs
 under like a cloudy glass layer.
 It's like a hue bulb.
 And it's just there to show you it's active.
 They can't actually display anything precise on that screen.
 They told me it's not designed to display text.
 So you can't add interface elements to that or anything.
 And then when you do play music, white LEDs
 light up on the sides here.
 So that's cool.
 But that's all that's really happening there.
 It's just a bunch of lights.
 It's also on top.
 So if you're across the room, you can't see it easily
 and stuff like that, which is a little frustrating.
 All the other ones, except for the Sonos one,
 is very difficult to see its little light.
 But the Google ones, the Echo devices,
 you can see across the room,
 whether they've heard you or been affirmed or doing anything.
 So the question people ask me, are you going to buy one?
 I buy everything.
 You know what I mean?
 Like, it's weird that I don't want to buy this.
 Like, I can't figure out where it fits into my life.
 That surprised me, actually.
 And I use Apple Music.
 Apple Music is my primary use.
 You are the ideal customer for this
 because you use Apple Music.
 If you don't use Apple Music,
 that's an instant non-starter.
 You have a good home stereo, right?
 Yeah.
 But like, this thing sounds great.
 I am so enamored with what Apple did to make it sound good.
 I think it's just such cool technology.
 But all of the Siri stuff,
 all of the Apple Music restrictions,
 all of that to me is just like,
 I can't figure out where it fits.
 And for me to not figure out where I can just like,
 shove a gadget into my life is like, very strange.
 Just get rid of one cantaloupe.
 Put it in your kitchen.
 But then you run into the problem with Siri,
 which can't do like, two timers.
 Yeah.
 Okay, last question.
 Somebody asked, is the fabric better on the Google Home
 or the HomePod?
 This is really, you have to go to an Apple store
 and like, squeeze this.
 It's just not, it's not at all what you'd expect.
 Yeah.
 I don't think.
 This is like metal or plastic behind the fabric.
 It's plastic behind it.
 So funny story from my review of the Home Max.
 I had it up on my mantle.
 It fell off my mantle,
 because it's actually very heavy, it's 12 pounds.
 And I damaged the front cover,
 and it tears a little bit.
 But this is not the one that dropped,
 but it is a plastic cover on that.
 It's very, very good.
 Wait, we got it.
 We're running way over here.
 I'm gonna answer this question.
 You cannot.
 Sorry.
 You cannot use this as a standalone.
 You have to have an iOS device.
 You can't just buy it and set it up out of the box.
 You can't have an,
 if you have Apple Music on Android,
 you're like one of those five people,
 sorry, like Apple doesn't care about you.
 You can't even set it up with a Mac, right?
 You have to have an iOS device.
 It's iOS.
 Okay.
 That's a lot on speakers.
 Thank you so much for your questions.
 We're gonna watch a quick video.
 This is Nat Garan in CES,
 just failing to have a smart suitcase, follow her.
 And then we're gonna come back.
 Ashley's gonna be here.
 We're gonna talk about some instant cameras.
 Take a look at this.
 We're still years away from planes with modular cabins,
 completely see-through walls
 or trains with Hyperloop like speeds.
 In the meantime, travel accessories companies
 are selling us on a vision of future travel
 in the form of smart luggage.
 These travel gears are supposed to make things
 feel modern and secure,
 but they may cause more headache than they're worth.
 Take the trend in autonomous luggage.
 These suitcases have computer vision technology
 built into them so they can recognize the owner
 and automatically roll after them as they're walking.
 Now, conceptually, this is kind of neat.
 If you're a caretaker, having both hands free
 to tend to your family members is useful,
 especially at a place as chaotic
 as an airport or a train station.
 But in practice, the prototypes we saw have a long way to go.
 Take 90 Fund's Puppy One suitcase.
 It legitimately ran away from me.
 The tech is pretty impressive.
 It uses Segway's auto-balancing technology
 to propel itself, make smooth turns and ride over bumps.
 But it turns out it's a lot more like a puppy office leash
 when you throw it a curveball.
 A company called ForwardX makes a similar product
 called the CX One.
 This suitcase did an okay job following me around,
 but sometimes missed turns and would bump right into me
 when I stopped moving.
 It's hard to imagine that these bags wouldn't plow
 into other people in the same way in a more crowded area.
 Basically, it was more worth to babysit
 these so-called smart bags than it was
 to just lug my old dumb suitcase around.
 Not to mention that some of these smart bags
 could raise serious flags at TSA checkpoints.
 I know, because it happened to me back in 2016
 with the first model of the Blue Smart Bag
 that had exposed wiring and a non-removable battery.
 Given my experience, I reached out to TSA
 to ask whether these new bags might cause disruption
 at security checkpoints, but all they told us
 was that they'll scan the bags
 as long as they're FAA compliant.
 And finally, there's price.
 These things are not cheap.
 With crowdfunding projects for bags you can ride
 and autonomous suitcases going between $1,100 to $1,500.
 It's great that designers and engineers
 are thinking about making bags that make travelers' lives
 easier, especially for people with mobility impairments.
 But just like the hyperloops and flying cars of our time,
 it looks like we're still a few years away
 from that vision of the future.
 We're back.
 All of these speakers have magically disappeared.
 And Ashley has appeared.
 How's it going, Ash?
 I'm here, I'm good.
 Thanks for having me.
 I'm really happy that we don't have to talk
 to voice assistants anymore.
 You just get to talk to me, a real human.
 It's so stressful.
 All right, you have brought us a new instant camera.
 You were on the show last season
 to talk about the hot instant camera market
 that's developing.
 And that's the Instax, which is like the,
 I would say the standard bearer.
 Yeah, so this was the new,
 I came on the show last season to talk about this SQ10.
 This was Fujifilm's square photos.
 I can show you guys an example.
 This was the size, which is just square.
 It's not a mini Instax.
 They've previously made.
 And it's a digital camera as well as an instant camera.
 So you can take photos, store them on a micro SD,
 edit them within the camera.
 This is a beautiful photo of the office.
 But yeah, do different things.
 It's pretty simple.
 And it was different for them at the time.
 And these are like hot sellers.
 Yeah.
 People love these things.
 I mean, I don't know if people love them,
 but they're cool, they're cool.
 So then what is this?
 This thing looks great.
 Okay, so at CES this year.
 There's a fingerprint.
 Polaroid.
 Yeah, it loves fingerprints.
 Polaroid was like, hey, we can do square too.
 And so they introduced the Polaroid Pop.
 And that's what this is.
 That is so slow.
 It's a massive touchscreen.
 And it's sort of the same idea where it's a digital camera,
 as well as you can print photos in these big square formats.
 And then you also can have a micro SD.
 So you can put these on your computer, your phone,
 whatever, share them on Instagram.
 It is very bad.
 Like very bad.
 I wanna show you guys that really quick.
 I can do this.
 So this is actually where you load the paper.
 I thought this was where it printed as well.
 And then it prints at the top.
 Do you want me to show you how to take a photo on here?
 Okay, maybe I'll take a photo of Paul with his camera.
 So you have to turn this around.
 It's so slow.
 Oh, what is that face, man?
 I don't know, that's my Polaroid face.
 It just now loaded.
 Like it seriously is the slowest thing.
 Okay, there you are, Paul.
 So you can-
 Look at that guy, wow.
 Like you can with the Fuji film, you can edit it,
 but this has all of the terrible clip art stickers
 and things like that.
 So here we go, bunch of clip art.
 We'll just put a big question mark by you.
 This is like the downside of the smartphone supply chain
 is that people are able to do this stuff.
 And it's the buggiest software.
 It's just so bad.
 I don't know how they found parts that are this bad.
 Anymore.
 Oh, and-
 This is like a 10 year old Android phone.
 I can write here.
 So I can just write your name.
 So that white border is just a lie.
 In the sense of it doesn't contain ink.
 Right, so this is-
 It doesn't contain the photo.
 Or the photo, right.
 It's just for looks.
 Like here you have this whole, this is regular.
 It's like a real Polaroid.
 Yes, this is a real Polaroid.
 You have this here.
 This is just zinc paper, which is heat activated ink.
 And it's terrible.
 So I'm gonna print this out.
 Ashley hates zinc.
 I really hate zinc.
 But zinc is cheap.
 It's less than a dollar a print.
 Whereas real prints are expensive.
 So I'm gonna print this out for you, Paul,
 because I know you really, really want this.
 So we're gonna print.
 It's gearing up.
 The sound effects are awesome.
 I mean, to me, the whole point of this show
 is that we bring on things that look cool
 in pictures and renders and Kickstarter.
 Yeah, because I saw this at CS.
 I was like, it's cute.
 It's pretty.
 And then we turn them on and there are 10 year old
 Android phones inside that make horrible sounds
 and slowly, slow, it's still not out yet.
 It's still going.
 So one nifty feature, which again, no one,
 we all have smartphones.
 But okay, anyway, you can record video on this too.
 Why? In 1080p.
 Exactly.
 Do you have any print video?
 Yes.
 Yeah, my smartphone can record in like 4K 60.
 I know.
 So that's why it's dumb.
 I want some bust ass 1080p camera.
 Here we go.
 Here we go.
 60 frames per second.
 Ooh.
 All right, here you go.
 So the reveal.
 It's a great photo of me, I gotta say.
 It's pretty good.
 Are your eyes closed?
 I'm also gonna show you guys.
 There's a companion app.
 Of course there is.
 It's just dumb because you don't need digital copies.
 Sean actually reviewed the SQ10.
 Oh, what is that sound?
 That's the...
 I think that's what she got.
 It's...
 So here's my...
 The Instax and the other cameras like that are...
 They're a part of this wave where they're like,
 it's a little bit of a computer,
 but like really it's about physical objects.
 It's like kind of retro looking.
 And then they like capture this huge market, right?
 And then Polaroid got mad at them
 because they're like, wait, that's what we do.
 Yeah, so Fujifilm's been around for a very long time.
 And in between season one and two right now,
 Fujifilm and Polaroid are now in a legal battle
 because Polaroid says that Fujifilm
 is infringing on its patents.
 Polaroid by the way, is bankrupt
 and sold all its intellectual property to just a whole...
 Oh look, we have the document on the screen here.
 Yes, and Neelai's a lawyer.
 So I brought Neelai lawyer things.
 I love lawyer things.
 Because I figured you love lawyers.
 I just wanna point out two things.
 This is the lawsuit that Fujifilm...
 This isn't Polaroid suing Fuji.
 This is Fuji just suing Polaroid for being annoying.
 Oh yeah, wait.
 So the thing they said that they're infringing on
 is this white border.
 Polaroid says Fujifilm copped the white border.
 I would posit that Polaroid is infringing on its own.
 Like, hold on.
 But anyway, the point of this is Polaroid,
 if you look at this, it's not even Polaroid anymore.
 It's like a holding company for trademarks.
 And then this is Fujifilm saying it's declaratory judgment.
 So they're just going to the court and they're like,
 can you make Polaroid go away?
 Which is incredible.
 Yeah, they say Polaroid just called them up.
 It's like, you owe us millions of dollars by the way.
 Polaroid was at one time a great American success story.
 So the thing is, Fuji has been a camera company.
 They know how to make cameras.
 They made a reasonably good camera that people really like.
 Polaroid is like a bunch of suits
 who bought this trademark.
 And it seems like they just went to Shenzhen
 and bought garbage parts.
 The worst parts.
 If you look at the screen,
 I probably can't see this on the camera.
 The screen is like, you're so used to your smartphone screen,
 which is super tightly laminated.
 This is like six inches under the cover glass.
 So bad.
 And so they're just trying to cash in on this like craze
 with the Polaroid brand, which is horrible.
 Paul, can I show you the off button?
 Cause that's my favorite thing.
 Cause it's so dumb.
 There we go.
 Yeah, it's just a little touch screen button.
 Also, just so you're aware, you can also,
 it also has a very, very bad companion app.
 I was editing a beautiful photo here.
 Is this just the phone app blown up
 cause you're on a tablet?
 Yeah, exactly.
 Yes, they have it for iOS or Android.
 You can see your gallery.
 I made this picture of Haim for him.
 These are photos that were taken on the camera, right?
 Yeah, on the pop.
 And now we're here.
 If you took a photo on your iPad or iPhone,
 could you print it with the camera?
 You could, yeah.
 I bet this camera's better than that one.
 Oh, it is.
 This is a 20 megapixel camera, but it's so bad.
 It's so bad.
 This is only a three megapixel camera,
 but it's somehow better.
 Right, cause it's like optimized.
 So the, how much does the Fuji one cost?
 280.
 280.
 And the film is about more than a dollar print.
 And then the pop is 200,
 and the prints are less than a dollar print.
 And they look like it.
 And they look like it.
 This is very bad.
 This is not a touch screen on the Fuji film, by the way.
 So I used to see these at parties just like constantly,
 and then they kind of trickled out.
 Do you think this fad continues on?
 Are they still there?
 Yeah, it's so fun.
 We actually bought a bunch of accessories,
 like different frames and like clips to hang things up.
 I think people just love them.
 Like why not?
 Yeah, well they love these white porters.
 Right, the white porters.
 Consumers are out buying cameras,
 they want these white porters.
 And then what you do is you take your phone,
 and you take a picture of this camera, of this photo,
 and you Instagram that.
 Right, yeah, cause that's what they're trying to get at here.
 It's like, oh, you want to share these photos online.
 No one wants to share those photos.
 But as we were talking about, it's like, no,
 you want to take a picture of the physical photo,
 and then share the picture of the physical photo.
 Yeah.
 That's a cool thing to do.
 By the way, I know everyone's hot for an update
 on the central core.
 We don't know if it's landed on the drone ship yet.
 Oh, is it blown up?
 We don't know.
 But there are now live shots of the car in space,
 which is a choice.
 What?
 Okay, good.
 Yeah, and they're taking them with you.
 Can you steer the Hubble right now,
 and look at a car fly through space?
 No, he mounted cameras on the car.
 Oh, Elon.
 All right, we've just got a few minutes left.
 Let's answer some of your questions.
 A lot of people still have HomePod questions.
 It's like the main thing people want to know.
 What do you think of the HomePod?
 Yeah.
 What do I think of it?
 Yeah.
 I like how squishy it is.
 It is very squishy.
 I was shocked when that was in a display on top.
 It's not.
 This whole time I was like, oh, it's a display.
 Are you a Spotify person?
 Yeah, but never.
 Would you ever switch from Spotify for sound quality?
 No, not for me.
 That's the main thing.
 Do you have a smart speaker?
 No, I use Bluetooth.
 What about this, though?
 What's up, yeah.
 Let's go to the archives.
 I was about to bring this thing out earlier.
 This is the iPod Hi-Fi.
 Look how far we've come.
 So this thing was my original party jam speaker.
 Can you see this?
 Let me take this off right here.
 Hey, look, it's got an aux in.
 It's got an aux in.
 It's got a regular power cord.
 And then.
 Battery powered?
 My dude.
 What the hell?
 This thing.
 What?
 There were like six D-cell batteries back in the day.
 So we would go to parties in college,
 and we'd stop at the CVS to buy D-cell batteries.
 Wow.
 For iPod Hi-Fi.
 This is an app for caring about standards, man.
 Yeah, it's crazy.
 And then we'd plug our iPods into it.
 It was great.
 This thing sounded incredible as well.
 Steve Jobs, when he introduced us on stage,
 he's like, I've owned speaker systems
 that cost more than you can imagine.
 This sounds better than all of them.
 And everyone's like, I don't know about that.
 It was like $700.
 It was ridiculously expensive.
 People are asking if you can set an alarm to wake you up
 with music on the HomePod.
 And the answer, I believe, is no.
 It's the same as Siri, whatever you can do with your phone.
 So you can't do that on your phone.
 You can set an alarm.
 But it's not going to be.
 You can pick a tone.
 Where are you that a $1 6-by-4 print is cheap?
 I don't think the point is that they're cheap.
 No.
 In the market, that's one of the cheapest.
 Right.
 That's as cheap as you're going to get for a print.
 Right.
 It's not going to be cheaper than that.
 Yeah.
 Well, it's a little less than a dollar.
 If you want cheap prints, you've got to walk in the dusty garden.
 Printing is expensive because it's so wasteful.
 We just need information digitally.
 What if I like tangible things, though?
 Well, is this tangible?
 A whole world is in here.
 I want to hold the photo close to my heart every day.
 What else we got?
 Everyone's asking about privacy on the HomePod.
 So Apple's better at privacy than every other company
 because they don't make their money in data.
 They make their money selling new things,
 which is another reason why not supporting Spotify is confusing
 because they're still selling you a HomePod.
 It's not like you're...
 It doesn't hurt them.
 Yeah.
 It's not like you're stealing.
 But yeah, so they don't collect any data.
 They try not to send anything to the cloud
 that they don't have to,
 whereas everything Amazon Google do runs in the cloud.
 So that, I think, is if you are interested in that,
 most people, I think, just happily trade away their privacy
 at like a moment's notice without thinking about it.
 But yeah, Apple is generally better at privacy things,
 and they're certainly not...
 They have no incentive to collect a bunch of your personal data.
 They don't want it.
 They're really good at making sure they don't take it
 when they don't need it.
 Should Apple make deals with Spotify and Hulu, etc.
 be more flexible?
 Well, they already have a deal with Hulu.
 Hulu's on the Apple TV.
 I think a good comparison for the HomePod
 is actually the Apple TV.
 So the Apple TV is Apple's thing.
 They were on the iTunes store.
 They will happily rent you movies.
 They don't allow anyone else to rent you movies on the Apple TV.
 But YouTube's on there.
 Hulu's on there.
 YouTube TV is on there now.
 PlayStation TV is on there now.
 There's a bunch of other TV services on the Apple TV
 that do everything except the one thing Apple wants to do.
 So you could make the argument
 that they're more open on the Apple TV.
 I mean, yeah, it's true.
 They're more open on the Apple TV
 than like the Watch or the HomePod.
 Do they just really need those subscribers for Apple Music?
 Is that what this is about?
 Apple makes like $1,000 billion every quarter.
 Yeah.
 The 30 million Apple Music subscribers are rounding error.
 I feel like in Apple's head, you'd just be sad
 if you were using an inferior service like Spotify.
 Apple doesn't want you to be sad.
 They want you to be glad.
 So they will restrict your giveaways.
 They will force you into their great service.
 And then another question.
 Is the thing on top a display or not?
 This is gonna say you.
 You have a lot of expectations about that thing.
 Because you want it to be a display.
 I don't know. It just should be a display.
 Yeah.
 The fact that it's just lights is like, what?
 Yeah.
 I don't know. It should be a display.
 It's very abstract.
 Also, Alexa does a thing where it points at you,
 which I think is the best feature of the Echo.
 That's really cool.
 You hate that.
 Oh, I like that.
 Oh, you do like that.
 Yeah, because it's responsive.
 Like, we didn't have time for it, but we put a stopwatch.
 One of the big differences in all of these
 is how quickly they respond.
 The HomePod is not the winner.
 Yeah.
 It's thinking hard.
 Siri is very slow.
 But you can speed up that feeling just by lighting up.
 I think that light is so important.
 You need to see that, I think,
 to know you're getting that interaction.
 Sure.
 Dude, this person just says, I love Spotify.
 Aw.
 I think that's Apple's big problem.
 People really love Spotify.
 I hate Spotify.
 I didn't know you were an Apple music person.
 I don't like the green color.
 I think Spotify's interface is just backwards.
 It just doesn't let you know what music is available to you.
 It's like, would you like another playlist?
 Another robot has made another playlist.
 One of your cooler friends is listening to this music at this time.
 I just want to see what's on my phone.
 What do you want out of a second generation HomePod?
 I don't know.
 Aux.
 Yeah, you're never getting that.
 Do you think Apple's putting a headphone jack?
 Well, it'd be nice if you had a headphone jack.
 It'd be nice if it could be your home theater audio.
 So many people have terrible TV audio.
 Or they buy a projector because projectors are great right now.
 But then running audio, like you put your Apple TV next to your projector, and then
 you have to run audio cables all the way to the front of your room or something.
 It's messed up.
 I think this is like a cautionary tale.
 Apple put out a speaker ages ago.
 They're like, we want a piece of that Bose action.
 Great.
 And then they were not committed to it.
 They dropped it.
 That market ran away from them.
 If you want to do HomePod and you're interested in the home, you've got to work in every room.
 So if you look at Amazon's lineup, they make a little one, they make a big one.
 They make a screen.
 They make one with a battery.
 They're like all over the place.
 Like, what do you want?
 Every one's here.
 You could just swallow.
 Yeah, Sonos makes all kinds of speakers.
 They make amps.
 They make just little boxes that connect to your existing stereo.
 They fit into all the rooms in your house.
 And not everybody needs that.
 Some people just need one speaker.
 But people want to watch on their TV.
 People want to watch music in more than one room at a time sometimes.
 And Apple has not figured out.
 They've not communicated at least how they're going to do all of that.
 So they have come up with a way where I can read Neely's texts.
 I think you saying it's the lonely person makes is accurate because it's like I use
 a speaker for when friends come over.
 My friends want to be like, I want to play this new song, Bluetooth or whatever it is,
 or just an aux cable.
 And now it's like, OK, you don't use Apple Music.
 Hopefully you have an iPhone.
 Yeah.
 All right.
 Or like the best the best version of the song is this like kind of live version that's
 on YouTube.
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 I play music off YouTube all the time.
 Yeah.
 I will say, Ashley brought up this point.
 I there's a line and this we got to end the show, but there was a line in the review
 that was like, this is a product that seems like it was designed for a very demanding
 person who lives alone entirely within Apple's ecosystem.
 Right.
 I kind of meant it as a burn.
 Yeah.
 And then all these people on Twitter are like, yeah, with me.
 Yeah.
 Get out.
 Get out.
 Get out of your house.
 It turns out that's my Tinder profile.
 It's awful.
 All right.
 So that's our show for this week.
 Our first one on YouTube.
 Super excited that we're on YouTube.
 Super excited we're talking to you.
 It was really fun having the chat up and hearing from all of you while we do the show.
 We're back every week, Tuesday, 4 p.m. Eastern on YouTube.
 Ashley's going to be here.
 Jake's going to be here.
 Paul's going to be here.
 I'll be here.
 We never run out of gadgets.
 We literally never run out of gadgets.
 Tweeted us.
 Let us know what you want to see on the show.
 We will always bring it here.
 We will always plug it in.
 We will always show you exactly how it works, which is the most important thing we can do.
 It's always the most fun.
 So we'll see you here next week, 4 p.m. Tuesday.