 Oh Oh Right, thank you. Thank you. Thank you Wow Thank you Thank you, we got it there's only really have a limited time for this show Jimmy's gotta go so Thank you so much. I'm Josh Topolsky. Welcome to on the verge. I'm so happy you guys could be here So please thank you for joining us. We have an amazing show for you tonight. Just incredible and I don't want to waste too much time talking about it, but I will say we've got some incredible people here Jimmy Fallon Who's been our friend and is a hilarious entertaining guy is here tonight. Feel free to applaud and We have We have a spectacular musical guest George and Jonathan they are Yeah, totally nuts They will blow your mind if your mind is not blown by the end of their performance you get your money back Though this was free. So Yeah, sure. I don't know how we're gonna work that out. We'll figure it out though And of course, you know, we've got Paul Miller and Eli Patel here. Our Joanna Stern is here And we've got some giveaways later on everybody's gonna have a chance to win something. Everybody's not getting something don't get too excited And I'm sure to go super smooth And Yeah, it's exciting and and I don't want to waste time telling you about the show because if I stand here telling you how Good, it's gonna be we're eating at a time that you could be experiencing the actual goodness of the show Oh one other thing. I want to thank our sponsor Sony. They've been a great partner and They're helping us put the show on tonight. So give him a round of applause I think I I think we should just I think we just get this thing started. So let's do it Yeah Yes, again again. I don't want to spend time telling you how great the show is gonna be but It's just fantastic. I mean, it's really good and we got these cool giveaways. We have the uncharted 3 bundle from Sony It's a PlayStation. It's games. It's it's a game at least and These cool bamboo iPad cases. They're handmade Very exciting, but we have a lot of show to get to and I just want to get it underway So please welcome Paul Miller and Eli Patel. We're gonna talk about some news Yeah, thank you Thanks for coming You should have Just slide over here. Oh, it's been so long. Yes, but Lots to talk about lots. We've been very busy Yeah, so we're in February now, which is actually kind of a slow month for tech news because in January CES happens and CES the Consumer Electronics Show. I don't know what you're doing here if you need to hear that but But it's a crazy crazy show and this year we did just not crazy coverage. How many posts do we do like? 910 thousand It's like a few state We did we did a lot of stuff at CES and we actually wanted to give you guys an idea of what the experience is Like being there for us. So we put together a little video kind of a montage and we want you to take a look at it So check this out What is CES? Why is it speaking? Well, it's the Consumer Electronics Show. If I had to answer your question, assh*** I've spent more time in Vegas before turning 21 than I need to spend in Vegas an entire lifetime We'll send people in waves to the show floor to cover the news as fast as we can This is Dieter Bohn for the Verge and we're taking a look at the Lenovo S2 The Logitech Cube mouse Thermador freedom induction cooktop here LG's brand new 55 inch OLED Sensex smart goggles. We're looking at the razor blade. This is the MakerBot replicator It's Sam with the Verge and I'm about to ride the board of awesomeness I haven't got any lip for skateboarding this whole time But the fact that she thought we were making a skateboarding film Definitely made him a lot more suspicious, you know? Squeeze the pad, and then you just gotta lean forward, go for it. Get a foe, not too fast This is Sam Baffin with the Verge and this is the Inventor Solar Whale and I'm getting off right now Everyone here is telling me I don't look good enough for Justin Bieber. They don't know what they're talking about. Are you taping this? If I jump, I actually jump and I can punch and I'm just knocking buildings over Alright, everybody get into the turntable room. 3, 2, 1, go. That's right Did anyone get to see a million volt Tesla coil at this CES yet? So what are all these people doing in the trenches? Broken a horn. It's non-stop. It's f***ing weird actually. I don't know how anywhere gets done around here You know you want some of this. Oh, you're a bad man It is the one place that you can go and see pretty much every insane gadget you could possibly think of What's happening right now? How are you? Joanna Joanna? Yes. You do love me right? I love you. Okay Wow. Oh my God. Wow. What is going on? Wow I'm joined by Simon Segers who is president of Arm Inc. We're sitting here with Aaron Woodman from Microsoft We are live with Mathias Duarte from Google. I'm sitting here with the Ford CEO Alan Mulally and the CTO of the company Paul Masquerenas I'm here with FCC Chairman Julius Jankowski We'll see what happens when I crank it up Are we doing this? We got the volume up here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How? How? How freaking fun does that look? I find it odd that I've chosen. It's not as much fun as it looks though because we're working so hard I don't remember any of that. I'm like let's go back. Yeah. No we should do it. Every week. Oh yeah. I live in a trailer now No it's really it's but we sleep like three hours a night But that makes it look like the best time in the world and there are like amazing moments there I think it's weird that I chose to do that. I think it's weird that I chose to do that I think this is your sat wave asking for a raise. Yes please. I could only afford one jacket. I've only got one fancy set of clothes Yeah one fancy set. So like now that we are a month away is there anything that like looks different to you in hindsight? Anything sticks out now? I feel physically cleaner because I'm not in the trailer and I'm not in Vegas The last night we went to the Cosmopolitan which we were told was like the newest fanciest hotel in Vegas No no reps here from the Cosmopolitan Vegas are there? Well I would just like if they are here I'd like to say the inside of the hotel is very fancy Still looks like a 1920s prostitute. It's weird. It's like straight up. That's the nice place. Go to the Cosmopolitan it was like this side I'm stepping into a flapper. Like a bar in Vegas. It's very there's a lot of people there But the technology it kind of there's not a lot of stuff that I walked away from going like that was incredible You know I'm still on the TV thing. Really? Yeah because you know. Your remote trip? The remote trip I think like. Meely had a theory at TES he was like remote will change the world. He was like we're in about the TVs changing the remote has to change I think unless you change how you interact with the TV you can't change anything about the TV itself And so I still think this is the year when that has to change you have to change like how you push the buttons and if you're going to Yeah, Apple. Alright. Is that what you're saying? Isn't that what you're trying to say? It's nice fanboy And you're saying that wasn't solved at the show? No I don't think so at all and I come away from that you know that was It was like what do you say pre-acting the Apple whatever they're going to do. Pre-acting. Pre-acting. Pre-actors. We should trade with them It's covered in Minority Report. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. We should trade with them. It's covered in Minority Report. Preaction.com. Yeah. Dot biz. No but I think that unless you figure out how to solve the interaction problem you can't do it. I'm waiting. That's a big take away. Your theory with the remote has to change but you were actually impressed by a TV there right? Dude the 8K sharp TV I just like I keep on thinking about it how I want to watch TV What is the exact resolution of that? An 8K. Do you know the exact resolution? 8,000. Just 8,000 things. I don't know. 8,000. Yeah it's just like there's a lot of pixels in a row. I will say this like I walked away we talked to the CEO of Nokia Stephen Elop Stefan Elo as we like to call him and he was a kind of fascinating guy. He was really smart. He's really selling it. I don't know when you get in front of him Dude and you don't know what happens and like two hours later you find yourself like in a fancy parking lot. Well he's Canadian right? Thomas Ricker interviewed him Chris Ziegler interviewed him and they're like glowing. I think he might be a vampire and he's like what do they do on True Blood? Somebody knows here come on. Glamour people. Wow you knew too fast. Whichever one of you that was. How do you glamour somebody? It's like you look at them deeply and then they like forget what's going on and you tell them what to do. Windows phone. Yeah right buy a Windows phone. I was like whatever you want Steven. When you were done talking to Steven were you wearing any clothes? Not from the waist down. That's a good sign that something might happen. Like I said I was in an empty parking lot and it was two hours later. No but we should move on because there's a bunch of other stuff to talk about. Facebook. Have you heard about this new site? Everybody's talking about it. Apparently you can connect with friends and family. No your ex-girlfriends will haunt you forever. If I had any ex-girlfriends that would be. Thanks a lot. You had to rub it in didn't you? Facebook filed for their IPO. They're going to go public. They're going to be a publicly traded company. You have a theory about it. What is your theory? I think this is like the moment when the internet kind of grows up. Facebook is if you read the filing they file with the SEC they're going to say we're going to be a public trading company. And you all are going to read the 25 page filing. I did it for you. I just want to be clear. And the only line where Mark Zuckerberg says in the filing he writes a letter in the middle of the filing. Numbers, numbers, numbers, charts and then a letter from Mark Zuckerberg. He's like I made Facebook because I wanted it to exist. And that's nuts right? You know what he also says is that human relationships are the fundamental unit of society. The basic society unit is a relationship. I don't know what is a society unit? Can you quantify a unit of society? You couldn't before Facebook. Now we know what the fundamental building block is. Human relationships. The idea that the company that some kid in college was like I want it to happen and now it's as big as GM or Apple or Microsoft. It's one of these amazingly huge parts of American economy. I think that makes it real. Once there is a lot of money and power in one place the government kind of like follows behind. They're like oh we should regulate this. That's what you're seeing. Or use Facebook to govern. Just think once everybody is on Facebook it will be easy to just like the law. I like that. You don't need the House or the Senate. Just likes. I'm into that. You know what? Let's just see what happens. What's the worst thing? It couldn't get any worse. Can you just imagine a politician, Mitt Romney standing up there and being like do you like me? He means it. People hovering over that button for ages. I don't know if I agree that this IPO is fundamentally different than a Google IPO. Facebook is very much part of our culture and I definitely see it as a permanent fixture in internet years. That's permanent. Is that like dog years? Like an internet year? Five years? I think the internet year is like ten years instead of seven. I'm so confused right now. I have zero idea what you're talking about. But you don't think it has staying powers. Is that what you're saying? I just think it could. It very well could if they keep it innovating. But they don't have any sort of lock. They don't have any sort of guarantee. At one point in my life I was doing a ton of social activities on MySpace. Wow. You were like a predator. I probably used MySpace back then more than I use social activities. I found a drummer on MySpace. Say what? You found a drummer on MySpace? I spent my social capital. You know we actually did a video. I went down to Wall Street because I wanted to try to talk. I was like I'm going to talk to analysts and Wall Street guys about Facebook and the Facebook IPO. Weirdly they did not want to speak on camera as if they were doing something secret or illegal. Or they were just really humble. Or just super humble. It's not us. It's the money. We're just here moving it around. We don't want to take credit for that. But there are a lot of Belgians who wanted to speak to us. But it's actually really interesting. We just talked about what people thought of Facebook and if they thought it was a viable company. Take a look at this video. It's quite interesting. Their stock is about to go public. Would you invest in Facebook? Probably not myself. No. I don't think so. No. How about you? No. Probably not. You're not going to invest? Why would I? Sucks to be Zuckerberg today doesn't it? Do you think they've got a solid business? For now. As long as they don't end up like MySpace. Are you checking Facebook right now? Is that what's happening? No. I'm just sexting somebody. Okay. Sexting or just regular texting? Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook? Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook? Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook? Nope. You know you've got to toughen up though. This is New York. You've got to be tough. You've got to be able to take rejection. Would you invest in Facebook? I would. Facebook is on everything now. You see on TV, newspapers, people talking about it. It's everywhere. You're both Facebook users? Yes. And what are your user names? Can I friend you? No. Would you invest in other companies? Maybe MySpace? It depends on what company they are. MySpace? MySpace. No one likes that. Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook? Nope. That's the guy you want to talk to. Where? I don't know. He said you're the guy I want to talk to. I think in five years it's going to be one of the biggest companies in the world. Maybe soon, yes. We talk about a billion people and half of them are engaged every single day. How often do you check Facebook? Too often. You had to look at her. Do you guys check it together? Is this like a team effort? I check Facebook, if not every day, every three days. Every half an hour or so. I wake up and the first thing I do is go on Facebook. Who wants to talk about this guy right here on the phone? He's making a deal right now, but if he would stop making the deal for a second, I don't want to interrupt him. Do you worry that you'll go on at night and then just stay on all night long and then the sun will come up and you'll go, Oh my God, I've been on Facebook all night. Does that ever happen? Actually, that almost happened to me a few nights ago. Really? Yes. That's not good. I'm very worried. I'm very worried about your Facebook addiction. Please seek help. Yeah, so a lot of mixed messages out there about Facebook, but also a lot of people who would not talk to me. What's wrong with me? I mean, it's the microphone. When you start to put something in the microphone, it's like you're holding a gun. And they don't want it to go off. If you have a big camera, they're like, Oh my God, will you put me on the internet? Oh, they like that. Yeah, they love it. Now I should disguise the microphone as a camera. Just keep talking naturally. I'm not recording this. So this last week, you went to see something. I wouldn't describe this as news. We got PR for something called a phibian. Can you explain what a phibian is to these people? It's a truck that's also a boat. Could you be more descriptive? It's a boat that's also a truck. Would you describe it as a yacht that's also a pickup? Yes. Like a yickup? Well, yeah. It's a transformer of a sort. It is a transformer. It's very strange, but very exciting. And you went and did video there? Yeah, we hung out there for a day. You hung out with the phibian for a day? Yeah. Let's watch this video. I'm very interested to see exactly how this works. Hey guys, it's Neil Ida with The Verge. I'm here with the Gibbs Phibian, which is a very large truck that is also a boat. I'm not kidding. The wheels flip up when you enter the water, and this thing can blaze around at like 40 miles an hour. It can also go 80 miles an hour on land. There's two 250 horsepower engines inside. It's crazy, and we're going to take it for a ride. Let's go. This jacket, phibian compatible. This is quite a look that I'm going with right now, I have to say. Come to my car that's a boat. My truck that's a yacht. It is a very large truck that is also a boat, as far as I can tell. It's actually not a truck and it's not a boat. It's an amphibian. And it's not just any amphibian, it's a high-speed amphibian. So can you go 80 miles an hour, flip the wheels, and go 40 miles an hour in the water? You can in a James Bond film, but... So you've never taken it off like a hill? Laws of nature and physics make life difficult in that sense. You've got to live. You only live once. Goodbye land. Land is for suckers. Oh, we're in the water. All of my dreams are coming true. My yacht that's a speedster. That's the button that flips out the wheels? Now we're a boat. The design has been specifically generated with the geometry to enable you to have normal road vehicle handling on road. But when you get into the water, the geometry enables the whole wheel to be retracted, much the same as an aircraft wheel gets retracted. I mean, what I really want to do is drive the thing, let's be honest. Well, I want to drive it too. So where are the buttons for, say, like the missiles? What's the wildest thing a customer has asked for so far? There's quite a few wild things. I mean, a lot of them are things that we can't talk about. So basically what you're saying is somebody has put weapons on the back of your boat? Nobody has put a weapon on the back of this. No one's put a weapon? Well, I'm not carrying today, so... I would estimate that we're now going about as fast as this thing can go. I don't know what I feel right now. Just the hope, the optimism of knowing that I can also take this vehicle and go directly back on land and then drive over 80 miles an hour. As a man, I have to say that makes me pretty happy. Although that happiness is somewhat tempered by the fact that I can't shoot anything with this car that's also a boat. If you could really add an explosion into this mix, or like a Kenny Loggins song, that'd be awesome. I mean, not Danger Zone. That would be so Danger Zone! It was very strange. Very odd. I don't understand that. The guy was kind of giving you the runaround, but I just want to know, based on your technical expertise of car boats... I'm an expert now. I've ridden one for 10 minutes. Given the max speed of 80 miles per hour, a large enough ramp, hit it full speed, could it convert into a boat in time to land and continue going? Given a ramp of adequate size, the time, and most importantly, the skill... Like a Neil I. Patel with a wheel. I would definitely think Neil I. should be driving it. Only a Yiccup operator of extraordinary capability. But you could do it. That's a yes. That's fantastic. We should keep moving because we have a bunch of stuff to get to. We want to talk about a couple of things that we're just into right now that we're excited about. Neil I. you've been talking about the new Sony camera, the NEX7. And by the way, unrelated to the sponsorship here, he really likes the camera. In fact, it's a little annoying how much he talks about it. Yeah, it's such a gadget. Most new things are like apps. It's like, wow, look at the pixels on my screen change color. But this is like it has a screen that flips... It's a touch screen though. No. It's not. No. I'm not interested. No. Dials, man. Buttons, dials. You have to touch a button? No, you have to spin a dial. That sounds like a lot of work. Are you going to settle down? Am I going to? No. Is this going to be it for you? Is this going to be your main squeeze? No, man. This camera is going to get old. I'm going to find a newer, younger camera. You're going to run around on this camera? Yeah. How do you think that's going to make the camera feel? Cameras don't have feelings, do they? Don't they? And Paul, what is the thing that you were talking about? You were talking about Sparrow. Yeah, one of our editors, Thomas Houston, has the private beta of Sparrow's... You can't see it here, but this is an image of an app on a phone. So Sparrow makes the... That's what I'm saying. The iPhone. Paul's showing you pixels on his screen. I've got hardware. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sometimes I deal with highly sensitive, very secret projects, and Sparrow is one of them. But they're bringing their email client... They currently have an email client on the Mac, which is a really fun way to use Gmail, especially with threaded conversations, inline replies, and labels, and unified inbox. I absolutely love it. And they're bringing it to the phone, and it's going to change my life. But it can't be your default. It can't be your default, and I hope Apple fixes that. Maybe if Apple were less restrictive. I know. It could be your default. Speaking of Apple, I'm actually... Let me just look through these many, many cards I have. I wrote a great American novel in cards for myself. I'm actually really excited about the iPad 3. There have been a lot of rumors about it recently. I actually wrote a post, because we had some information, and I speculated in the post that the iPad 3 would be announced probably around the first week of March. And AllThingsD said March. AllThingsD then basically confirmed... Just copied you. I think they have a red phone that goes right to Apple. I don't know, but they seemed to always know. They basically said it's going to be the first week of March. But after I wrote my post, I realized that there's an extra day in February this year. There's a February 29th, because it's a leap year. And Apple's thinking pretty clever, and I was like, oh, this is a perfect opportunity. They'll do something like, it's time to leap ahead. I saw that tweet. I was like, oh, did I miss an Apple event? Yeah. You actually thought it was a real thing that was happening. Oh, was I sleeping? By the way, I'm thinking about just quitting to think up taglines for Apple events. It's time to leap ahead. You guys are going to love this. So I started kind of thinking, doing some research on what that... on if that lined up. And I looked at when the last two iPads were announced. And do you remember when they were announced? The last... the iPad 2 was in March, and the iPad 1 was January. Yeah. So the iPad 1 was announced January 27th, and the iPad 2 was announced March 2nd. Now, do you know what days they do those events on? Apple normally does its events on Tuesdays. Yeah. And I thought they were on Tuesdays. But those were actually on Wednesdays. And February 29th, which is a day that normally does not appear, it's a Wednesday. Only once every four years. So actually, I've actually been working on something, if I can just show you. Hang on a second. Because I think I figured this out. So, as we just said, iPad 1 announced January 27th, right? iPad 2 announced March 2nd, Wednesdays. What's interesting is 27 plus 2 equals 29. 29. As in February 29th, 2012, a leap year. You know something else that's interesting about 2012? 20 plus 12 equals 32. Now by itself, that doesn't seem very interesting. But minus 3, as in iPad 3, and you're back to 29. Think that's a coincidence? I didn't think it was a coincidence. So I was starting to get pretty confident here, but then I realized something. Microsoft announced that they were going to do their consumer preview of Windows 8 on the 29th. Which kind of throws a monkey wrench in the plans. But then I started researching the number 8. And it turns out 8 is a lucky number in China. You know what comes from China? iPads. And you know what's definitely coming from China? The iPad 3. Now, something else comes from China a lot of the time for us, which is rumors. And we actually reported on a rumor from a supply chain in China, and they described the iPad 3 display, which they apparently have seen, as a quantum leap in display technology. Quantum leap, as in leap year. Just wait, because there's more evidence here. Quantum leap is interesting, actually. It's an interesting phrase. Quantum leap was a show that aired on NBC starring Scott Bakula. Now, I don't know if you know about the show. It was about a guy who time travels and jumps into people's bodies to right wrongs. It started airing in 1989 on March 26th. 26 plus 3 is 29. iPad 3, 29. February 29th, 2012. Now, when quantum leap started airing, it wasn't immediately a hit. They put it on Fridays, and it was kind of flopping. So they had to move it. They had to move quantum leap to a different day. And you know what day they moved it to? What day do they move it to? Yeah, Wednesday. They moved it to Wednesday. Now, sure, that seems a little weird, considering all the other stuff we've seen, but the rabbit hole goes way, way deeper on this one. Quantum leap aired during a leap year, 1992. Guess what day 1992 started on? Wednesday. Wednesday, 1992. That's the first day, right? And in February of 1992, there was only one day left. In February of 1992, there was only one episode of quantum leap. One episode. There should have been four. I don't know why there was only one, but there was, and it was at the end of the month. The last Wednesday in February, the 26th. 26 plus 3 equals 29. Just wait. Okay? Just wait. Now, that episode, season 4, episode 15, A Song for the Soul, was about Sam leaping into the body of a girl in an R&B trio. A trio of singers. And his goal in that episode was to get them to not sign a contract. You know what doesn't have contracts? iPads with data plans. You don't have to sign a contract with a data plan. And as we've heard about the iPad 3, it's going to have LTE. Three letters, no big deal. I'm not going to get into that. But you can be sure that when it does have data, it's not going to have a contract. But this gets even weirder. And actually, when I figured out the next part, I really got chills. As I said, the main character in Quantum Leap was a guy named Sam. He's played by Scott Bakula. Scott Bakula was recently in another series called Men of a Certain Age. Men of a Certain Age airs on TNT, which is a Turner station. Turner also owns TBS, which is the station that Conan O'Brien is now on. Now, who took over Conan O'Brien's slot when he left the 1230 slot on NBC? Yeah, Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon took the slot. And you know what the first date of his first show was? March 2nd. The same day the second iPad was released. So I think if you look at all of this data, I think it's fairly obvious what's going on here. Clearly, on February 29th, 2012, a day that should have never existed, Tim Cook is going to walk out on stage, joined by Scott Bakula and the cast of Quantum Leap, and he's going to introduce the iPad 3. Any questions? Paul, any questions? The numbers all add up. I rest my case. I rest my case. I knew you would see how clear this empirical data was. And we'll be right back with one of the main conspirators, Jimmy Fallon. So stick around. We want to create in Nathan Drake a character that people look at like their favorite cinema hero. Somebody that you can relate to. I'd be lying if I said I didn't think about Bruce Willis and Die Hard. One of our greatest challenges was trying to find our iconic actor. So much of what makes Drake Drake is in Nolan. Nolan was one of the few guys that came to the show. He stood out because he brought a quirky sense of humor. Really? I don't think you can be a good actor without a strong imagination. Mark! Nowhere is that more evident than on a motion capture stage. You need a willingness to play in this virtual sandbox. We walk into a gray room covered in gray carpet. Imagine the ship is over there. Imagine that you're looking over the edge of a cliff. There's so many facets of acting that go into motion capture. The remarkable thing about Nolan is he can play Drake to a tee. He's a huge piece of these games, a huge piece of what we do here. What is all this crap you're giving me about Sony? Those guys are not here for historical research and neither are you. With Sony, we try to blur the lines between what is a game and what is a movie. This is the first blending of the two that people have fully embraced. Come on, admit it. You love all this as much as I do. It's not cinematic-like. It is cinematic. There's no better way to say it. What we do to bring Uncharted to life is all about imagination. And that's what Sony's Make.Believe is all about. You've seen what goes into creating the animation for Uncharted. Now show us your own moves at Sony.com slash experience. Yeah, that is a... I gotta say, that is a hell of Uncharted, a hell of a game. You should play it. Again, this is not for the sponsor's sake. It's a good game. So, my next guest really needs no introduction. He's been a great friend to us and he's a hilarious, hilarious man. Please welcome the star of Taxi, Jimmy Fallon. Yeah. Hey, everybody. How you doing? Thank you. Hey, everybody. How you doing? Thank you. Oh, man. This is gorgeous. This is fun. You're a fan of Uncharted, right? You've played? I love Uncharted 3. It's amazing. Uncharted 2 is my favorite game I've ever played. Do you want a drink? I feel badly we've left you out of this. Yeah, it's awkward that you're the only one here with a drink. Can we bring a drink over here for Jimmy? I want to get you relaxed because apparently you're very upset with me. I want to get into that. Oh, yeah. I'm not really that... Thanks so much. There's no rupees in there at all, by the way. I can assure you of that. Young man. I actually don't know who that is. Who let that guy in here? You know what happened? I just had a big couple of weeks. Probably the biggest weeks of my life, I would say. In two weeks, I went to the White House. And I did a sketch with the First Lady, Michelle Obama. Yeah, just a little sketch with the First Lady. And then after that, I did shows from the Super Bowl in Indianapolis. Yeah, you were on the road. I didn't realize it. I talked to your producer, Gavin. He was like, we're doing the Super Bowl stuff. Because I didn't know if you were going to be able to make it for the show. And I had no idea what he was talking about. And then I turned on TV. And you're like, no, but I turned on to tune in and watch. And there you were. So I called you and I asked you. Because I have an SLR. I have a giant camera. I said, I want one of those tiny cameras you can carry with you that's just awesome. TheVerge.com. Let me know what's going down, Josh. Don't disappoint, my man. Topolsky. You know, J-Tops. Tell me what's going down. You said, oh, I'll tell you what's up. Canon PowerShot S100. Now, I love Canon. I just want to pause you here. I consulted with every senior editor on the site. I was like, Jimmy wants a point. I trust you. I don't care if you talk to anyone. I wanted to make sure it wasn't crazy. So here it is. This is it. The Canon S100, right? After this, Canon will never advertise with us. No, by the way, we use Canon stuff on our shirt. No, no, no. Don't glad hand it. Let's just get into it. This is a pretty impressive piece of art. Can you just hold this like a human being would hold a camera? How would you hold it? What do you mean? Stop right there. Stop. Pause. No, you moved. Pause. Stop. Just don't move your f***ing hands. Stop it. Put your hands back. No, where they were. Hold the camera. I don't understand. I'm trying to hold it. You've been beating. Pick up the camera and take a picture of me. Right now. Stop. Your fingers on the f***ing flash. So f*** that camera. You're f***ing wasting my time. I'm at the White House. I'm at the White House. That's never going to happen again, Josh. Who uses a flash? Who uses a flash? Fall flash photos look like pornography. What are you talking about? I don't know where I was going. I was at the Super Bowl. Everything's blurry. I could be anywhere with anyone. I could be at the Blue House. Beautiful photo. No flash. You look a little angry in this one. I'll be honest with you. I need a drink. I need a drink. Have a sip. Is that a big flaw or is that not a giant flaw? How do you make the flash work? I never use the flash. What do you mean? Have you ever seen flash photography? It's like a Calvin Klein ad from 1996. Where is the flash? How do you engage the flash? How do you engage the flash? Imagine being in front of the first lady. Excuse me while I figure out how to engage the flash. Let me take a picture of something dark. Right there. Where was your finger? It was right back here. You've got baby fingers? Who's got fingers? I probably have larger hands than you. I would say they're considerably larger. Thanks for the advice. This thing is great. What I'm hearing from you is you don't know how to use a camera. Mainly. You did what I did. I grabbed it like I would grab. By the way, were you in situations where it was real dark and you were with the first lady? What's going on? I can't worry about lighting. We had low lighting. I don't light my situations in life. It was by candlelight. I don't want to bother anybody. They don't have overhead lighting at the White House? What's going on there? They're still using gas light? It's magic. I captured on this Jim Jammer. By the way, I didn't design the project. I don't know if I can just get right in that one. What is that? I don't know. It's dark. It could be anything. It's artistic. It could be anyone. I like that. I don't like that at all. You're on the verge of not being used as a thing I can check cameras out on. I honestly... That was sloppy. I'm sorry. That was sloppy. I honestly think... I think this is user error is what we're dealing with here. It's definitely flat. Would you describe yourself as good at taking pictures? No. Awesome. I'm the worst. You pick up the camera. I'm a comedian. Pick it up. Are you taking a picture right now? I don't know. Are you? Are you taking a photo? I'm taking a picture for every human alive. You didn't pick it up like this. I picked it up like that. Let's roll the video tape. Picking up and shooting are two different things. You tried to shoot it. It was embarrassing on your part. We'll edit it and make it look embarrassing. It wasn't embarrassing on your part. This is insane. GPS technology. You don't want to be located. I know where I am. I'm the one taking the picture. GPS. Tell me where I am. It's loaded into your iPhone. It shows you on the map. Where was I? Maybe I was in the White House. I thank God for the GPS. It tells me where I was. You do have a point. Maybe you don't need the GPS. I appreciate it. Thanks, John. I can just throw money around. I'm actually pretty sure you can just throw money around. By the way, how much is this? I think it's like three bills. I'll write you a check after the show. I don't trust your checking account. I owe travelers checks. Congrats, dude. Thank you so much. I'll figure it out. Your opinions on cameras are bad. I hate this thing. What's plan B? Do you have another camera? I have a Sony Alpha. A monkey can take a great picture with the Sony Alpha. Why don't you take the Alpha with you? I pressed the button and it looks awesome. That was a great recommendation. I went up too far. I went to the Canon 5D. Wait, you're saying I recommended the Alpha to you? And it was a good recommendation? I recommended it to myself. You researched on The Verge. That's where you do all your research. Not the virgin.com, which is a different site. But weirdly, you host both shows. I host both shows. Congratulations, by the way. I invite you on my show. I'm happy to be here. I'm psyched and proud of you. I like what you're doing. I'm just emulating you. I have a desk now. Are you and Tom emailing? Yeah. He's saying the lighting is bad on you. No, Tom. You know what I'm talking about. From MySpace? Nope. Tom DeLay? Who did I introduce you to? Your new best friend. Tom Cruise. Yeah. I'm back stage. They start throwing emails back and forth. We're friendly. It changes guys' lives. You let me talk to me. When he comes to New York, we do a little babysitting with Suri. It's not a big deal. Suri, babysit. I didn't know that was an option. That was amazing, by the way. The thing about Tom Cruise, and I think I told you this backstage. About six years ago, I started telling everybody that Tom Cruise is my favorite actor. He was great? Kind of as a joke though. Because he's over the top. I disagree. Three years after that, I was like, actually he's pretty good. I had to follow through on the jokes. I started watching all his movies. I've seen a lot of them. Rain Man. If it wasn't for him, he sets up Dustin Hoffman's character. Magnolia. They make the best cupcakes, man. Are you segwaying into food? I didn't know what was going on. I am a little hungry. I have a little package. Can we get a hamburger out here for Jimmy? You have a little package? I don't know what. Good for you, man. You just come out and say it. Be honest. Honesty is the best policy. I just want to say, Jimmy's aggression is warranted. I came on his show last time and I told him that his app was overpriced. Yeah, you did. It's 99 cents. I'm sticking to that. It's a great app. I'm really hurt right now. I'm having trouble recovering from this. It's a great app. I do have an app. Can I show people the app? Yeah, Jimmy has an app. He's an app developer now. If there's any bug reports, send them to jimmyfallon.com. Is that your email address? Yeah, do you want to do that or just... I think... Do we have to plug this? It's actually joshuatheverge. I'm not embarrassed. You can know my email address. No big deal. And he has a tiny package. Look, here's the app right here. It's called Wake Up Call. This is cutting edge technology. What it is, is it's a clock. Can you see this? Yeah, it's an alarm clock. That dude, classy, Downton Abbey type of vibe. You can flip over to him. It's like Tron. What's going down? Then you go over to him. He's the old flip dude. You're at a cheap motel saying what's going down. Then you flip sideways. What? Bigger numbers. That's what I'm talking about. It's a major advancement. The whole point of this is it's an alarm clock. It's an alarm clock where I call your phone. You've revolutionized the alarm clock industry. You set the alarm for whatever you want and then I can call you. I will just call you and your phone will ring and it will be like... Hey, it's Jimmy. Time to wake up. Good honor for Jimmy. Face the view with your underpants on. Yeah. Or you can go... Hey, it's Jimmy. Guess what? It's time to churn the buttermilk. Look, whatever you want. Whatever you want. Whatever you want. Whatever you want to wake you up. That seems really good. It seems like really good stuff. The ringtone, the fake ringtone. What I'm most impressed with is that you're not using your fame, you're not like pimping out yourself. You're not using your prestige to sell an Afri9-9.10. That's what's important. That's the best background you've had all night. That's pretty good. and that's your. I mean you know you know here's what is the fun. I was wrong. I was wrong. Yeah, that is all. I said this thing because I want to create a lot of thought because I was tired of you know you set your alarm clock and and they tell us the rules. You know, I don't know man you press the biggest button on the alarm clock is. It's a snooze button. Yeah, you've clearly never. It's always like 9 minutes. 10 minutes or something says that between 9 11 7 and 10 what so this I said 5 minutes 10 minutes 15 you go to 7 hours. That's good. That's where the bullcrap I have to say that is that is worth that is worth the president so actually I want to talk about your show for a second so I think when you start out beyond is I think people like Jimmy Fallon yeah, it sucks. Yeah, we don't want to be honest. It's hard to replace a guy like Conan o'brien is fantastic news. He's done his show for 16 years. So he's he's a comfortable face in your living room for 16 years you write went to school with them, you know I was in college when it's a month. No what basically he was on my you're watching my dirty. Yeah that prices right. So I watch weird combo. I love prices right learn so much about the value of things I was just so I just I didn't have to you know was no shows he had to follow on the plot, you know right prices right to watch whenever the. Yeah, so following that it's not the easiest thing I mean so and I don't know how to do a talk show. I'm just starting out. I don't know it's tricky because it's just it's talking. Yeah, so it's quite but it's but it's it's like you worry about those things you asking questions and like I had Robert De Niro on as my first guest who is the the greatest actor in the world. I love that guy so much and I just asked my favor if you would do it and he said okay. He's he's not I mean I don't want to insult the man yeah, not a great interview that I mean that's my but that's what I knew that going in right. Maybe I could be the guy cracks yeah, because it is kind of like it is like a stone he's kind of like he gives you a look doesn't like to talk. Yeah, we're not that I saw your but the time. We did at the end of the night. No, but I so it's what had to near on his nice not to come on the show and he comes on and I had my questions all set up and have probably 6 minutes to talk to Robert here in 6 minutes and see Mike a lot but it is it just especially when you're flopping like I was and I go to rock you like so so you do you live in New York right, you goes. And this is the answer is it's like and I'm just like okay, and I'm like and you can hear people like unwrapping candy. So you it's flop sweat. It is it was I was so scared. Our shows was terrifying. It's hot and like that audience when it's quiet in there. I mean it's the same in here you guys are terrifying when it's quiet. I learned this I had a something a few episodes ago I fly. A demo the series every time you have a great time you always know, but it was horrible. I was like it did a copter up and almost broke a light and almost fell on someone they suit. I was aiming for you but yeah, but but the near. Yeah, but it was so so it was like I barely scrape through it and I love Robert De Niro for just taking the chance to come on the show and it was brand new. No one else has the guts to do something like that like I just really will never forget those like that first week of booking is so hard when you have a new show and just like if you ever get a chance to see any Robert De Niro movies go do it because the guy is the greatest human he's a good actor. I don't know if you've heard I heard about a great guy and that was like so I that was my first interview and that kind of after that I was just so nervous and the reviews were correct. You know they weren't 100% positive. But you but you've grown the show I actually feel like you guys are doing some of the smartest and I'm not saying this because I go on the show occasionally, but it's some of the smartest weirdest funniest comedy on late night. There's a lot of late night guys now it's like it used to be where there's just 2 do yeah, there's a lot of people on and there's a lot of really good comedy late night and you guys are doing some of the it's just so smart and so funny thank you we're also late so it's like no one really cares at the network. Yeah, so I mean I think you can watch our show. What what our ultimate goal is we're very positive person so I want people to have a fun experience when they watch the show and I think it's the end of the day. So if you had a bad day if life sucks. You still have TV you got to turn on and Alan if you get 30 seconds of not worrying about your life that's the best gift. I like the answer to the the one percent really you're going to be the cure. I don't know what I know I really you know we actually put together we put together a couple of moments from the show that we thought really great because if you guys haven't seen it. You should see it and I want to show it here so just take a look at this you get an idea of just how good and funny Jimmy show it is funny. Yeah. This is not my show. Yeah, this is it. Oh my goodness there you are you're doing a sketch. Yeah. Hey there, what's up man? You got a computer there? Yes. Cool man. Computers are awesome. What kind of computer you got? It's IBM laptop? Macintosh powerbook? Packard Bell? Zenith? It's just a laptop. What is it? Tandy? It's just a laptop. Fax modem? No, it's just a laptop. That's all it is. Just a laptop. Now Tony Danza takes to the Broadway stage to rekindle the magic that was Who's the Boss in an uproarious one-man show Samantha Jonathan Angela Mona. Remember the time Tony had to miss the big game? Man oh man the championship game I can't wait. Hey who took my glove? Samantha, Angela, Mona, Jonathan. And the time Tony caught Angela dating his best friend. Angela. You relive all the moments that made Who's the Boss a smash hit for nearly a decade. There you go. He's such a nice guy man. It's weird. I would think you guys were shooting in HD at this point. All the rest of the NBC is in HD. A little video camera. Can you tell me what's going on there? That was not late night with Jimmy Fallon by the way. You got to start somewhere. I was in college in Albany, New York and there's a show called 40 Wax. W... No I think it is Wax. Doesn't matter how you spell it. If it was W-A-X it would have been cooler. W-A-X-A-C-K-S. Which is currently on the Playboy network. It was a show we started and just like a bunch of college kids got together and like tried to invent characters and I just had a Tony Danza impression. I just figured. It's good though. You got the essence of Danza there. Who's the boss? He would say everyone's name the same like Mona, Samantha, Angela, Jonathan. It's like the same. He was exasperated. Of course you would pull that out of nowhere. Trust me it killed here. Oh my goodness. We're going to add a lot of laughing to that. No I don't mind. What is the deal with music? I feel like you do a ton of music stuff on the show. Like you performing music and you did when you were on SNL by the way if you haven't seen his SNL I think best one of the season. So funny. Really funny. And there's a lot of music sketches on it. You do a lot of music stuff on the show. I feel like you wanted to be a rock guy and you just ended up... You were all so funny and it was like you could go either way. But you're Neil Young. It sounds like Neil Young. Thanks. I like just like listening to music. That's like one of my favorite things. And I started as an impressionist. So I would do impressions of Jerry Seinfeld or going like, okay what is this place? We're on the verge. And I'd do that. Or Bill Cosby like, well the people just to post you were sitting in the desk with the slip. So I just get into things. All the people are insulting me. All the celebrities insulted John Tupolsky. Yeah, that's my whole act. And then I started doing music in college and I added like you know at the time it was like Dave Matthews band or something where we're like... And just adding things like that. So then when I got to Saturday Night Live I would do impressions and musical impressions. So now that I have my own show it's like I get to fill up an hour. So if we have a thing like Tim Tebow and I have a David Bowie impression you know some writer just puts it together and is like we should create a man called T-Bowie. I like that. That makes no sense. That just happens. Yeah, obviously. Oh yeah. And so then you know I'm painting my face with the lightning bolt and I'm wearing the Broncos jersey and I'm like Tim Tebow to Jesus Christ. Tim Tebow to Jesus Christ. Can't win by myself but with your help I might. I mean it's incredible. Super fun. You guys did a show. I gotta say I really appreciate you guys having me here and I love the set. It looks so good. The lighting is good. The camera works good. Your crew is amazing backstage. But if you don't mind I love the entrance music that you had and I would like to just take it out with a little break dancing right here because this reminds me of like a nice break. You know I actually wrote that. You did. Yeah. You did write the music. You want the intro music? Is that what you're asking for? Can we get the intro music for Jimmy? Just crank it up. Can this be done? As loud as you possibly can. We're not a very technically advanced studio. There we go. Yeah. Alright. I think that's a good place to end it. Jimmy thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for having me everybody. And actually stick around for one more minute. We have a video. Paul went to GE. He looked at technology. You love technology. I love GE. So take a look at this and thanks again Jimmy. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Great show. Thanks everybody. Hi I'm Paul Miller with The Verge. I'm in a car right now. And I'm in upstate New York. I'm about to check out GE's research labs. And I've been tweeting back and forth with GE just trying to get a vibe. You know what's GE into? You know what did GE eat for breakfast? And you know I think I have a lot to learn. I've got a lot of questions. I'm ready to find some answers. So we are the central technology organization for GE. And in that role we support every GE business. From healthcare to energy to aviation to transportation. It's great to be at the center of all that stuff going on in the world. So this is GE's new Watt Station ecosystem. So you know you can show up here, charge your car and stuff. But they also want to tie into surrounding services. You can maybe reserve a rental car. We actually rented a, not rented, purchased a pizza. Nobody really knows what's going to happen or how it's going to be used. But by packing all this smart technology in there, there's some really potentially emergent applications that can come out of it. But mostly it's going to be for pizza. What are these closets for? So this is cancer. Is that correct? Look at this. I'm like a professional already. Enhance. They've got a prototype wireless patient monitor. What are all these little closets in these for? So I'm at GE's trip optimizer, which is sort of like an autopilot for train. That's right. The thing the trip optimizer does differently, it anticipates where this speed reduction is and backs off on the throttle. So it only goes to idle. How do you do blue sparks? Blue sparks? Yeah, Mario Kart, you toggle the joystick back and forth and you get the blue sparks and that gives you a speed boost. With a laser, we bring our components together with square edges. Bring them together, use the high energy density of the laser to penetrate straight through that. I was told like if you're making a battleship, you're saving hundreds, thousands of tons. You know, I'm actually looking. I haven't welded a battleship yet. I'm trying. That's what I'm looking at doing. And it turns out there'd be a lot of waste and metal. And so I'm just shopping around for the best way to create my own battleship. This is a dead man switch that allows us to start and stop the process. And if the laser kills you while it's welding, I will let go of the button and the process will stop. Even though you'll be dead, the laser will stop. Which is the important part. Great. All right, let's do this. It's a battleship grade. You know, when I think about the world, I think about our world, our shared planet, shared existence, the resources, the finite resources we have. Think about energy and smart grids and electric vehicles. Eventually, just think about the great research they're doing here in the middle of New York State, somewhere, somewhere at the Global Research Center. This is Paul Miller signing off. I actually have no idea what they do up here. I get the overwhelming impression you didn't understand a lot of stuff. I found cancer. Is that true? You found it. You found it. You're like, that's it? Get it. That's right. That's what I told him. Gee, guys, you gotta kill this cancer. Can I just say, what a sport Jimmy Fallon is. That's a little harder to follow up. He's like hanging out with the First Lady. He's a really famous person. There's no reason for him to be here at all. I don't know why he just agreed to it. But he was a great sport. I was hoping he would leave the camera too because there were photos of Michelle Obama on there and I wanted to see them. But that was just wild. But we actually have a little bit of sight news. It's actually kind of some bittersweet news. This is the first time that we're sharing it with anybody. I want to bring out Joanna Stern to talk to us. Everybody, Joanna Stern. Joanna, we're getting live. Go ahead. Go to D-Live. I'm last. Thank you for coming. Thank you. Oh my God. Have a seat. By the way, you get Jimmy's leftover drink. This is Jimmy's seat, right? That's his drink. That's he now owns it. Oh, he touched this? He touched that drink. I think he might have had a sip of it. If you want to get some Jimmy DNA, there's an opportunity. What is this? It's a vodka soda. Can I just say, we had this long conversation about bleeping the F-bomb in our videos and that conversation was completely worthless. It's really funny that we were very worried because Neli says the F-word in the CS video and I guess that's not a problem for us anymore. Don't worry about that. So we actually have some news about Joanna Stern, which is why she's here. It's pretty hard to say. I got to tell you, I'm getting a little choked up. Just kidding. I don't cry. I brought tissues. Did you? Yeah. Crying towels. Crying towels. Crying towels. So Joanna is actually- Is that actually just a napkin? Can I finish? I really can't get you out of it. Yeah. Joanna is actually leaving the verge. She is- yeah, I know, right? That's insane. Who would do that? She's- thanks for this. This is like a napkin. Yeah, it's a napkin. A high quality tissue. No, she's actually- Joanna is going to ABC News and she's going to be doing their technology stuff online. She's going to be doing some video and it's a big deal for her. A little bit of a career change. Definitely a career change. Yeah. And you know, we're- Not with Jimmy Fallon, but- You know, Joanna- I just want to say, Joanna started working with us when we were at Engadget and came to the verge and helped us build the site into what it is now and actually like set the stage for a bunch of stuff that we're going to do later, which is really awesome. She has like- her reviews plan was very exciting. I'm going to go tell everyone about it. And it's a little sad because you got a really cool offer and you decided to go for it and we're very happy for it. We're very supportive. And we actually put together a little video, kind of a send off video for you. And I'd like everybody to take a look at this. We don't have to show it. For Joanna Stern. Yeah, we definitely have to show it. Oh, we're going to show it. I haven't seen it, so. Oh my God. What's happening right now? Hey, this is Joanna for the verge and this is the Nook tablet. The Seuss's E-pad Transformer Prime. The Sony Vio Z. The HTC Flyer and its pen. The Folio 13. The Kindle Fire. The Kobo Vox. The Idea Center A720. I would definitely suggest Apple's MacBook Air, even if it is $400 more. For $400 more, you can get the MacBook Air. For $300 more, you can always get the MacBook Air. If you can live with that, the ZenBook is actually a really good laptop, but if you can, the Air is still the best choice. Rock and roll. Joanna has a sexual crush on Justin Bieber. Yeah. It's not so much sexual. It's highly sexual. Okay. What do I ask Justin Bieber? Does he love me? I think I asked him if he loves me. You do love me, right? I love you. Okay. Really nice to meet you. Thank you. Yeah. Good try to start. Are you crying? Yeah. Aw. We're going to... Listen. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay. Just hold on. Oh, wow. You got me an old... This style is directly to ABC News. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I'm going to make you one final offer. There better be a lack of care in there. Will you stay at the verge? This one's good. Call ABC right now. It's all real. Call ABC right now. Just pick it up, dial it, and tell them you've made a horrible mistake, and all this will be yours, all of this real money. Are you prepared to do it? Do I have a show with the Monopoly man with that money? Maybe. Is that what you want? You know what, I'd actually prefer you didn't, because I need this for my kill a cab. So... Are you picking it up? Hold on a second. No, but no, seriously, Joanna, get off of this. This isn't even plugged in. Oh, there's no... There's no plug. No, no, no, there's a dial tone. You know how much this phone costs? You had your chance. We used the bulk of your remaining salary on that phone. You had your chance. No, but seriously, we love you, and we're going to miss you, and we're very excited about what you're doing. I really... And I just want to say, it's been great working with you, and I'm sure that our paths will cross again. And hopefully our paths will cross again. Yeah, why are you reusing my line? No, but that's what I wanted to say. Now, what are these bags for? So, I... These Transformers bags. I don't have a bucket of money, but I wanted to get all of you guys presents so you remember me, like Sarah McLachlan said. Well, we'll always have your Mack McGar recommended. We're killing this together. So each person gets a very personalized present. Oh, boy. And so I want to do these each. Nielise, you need the crying towel? I do. This one first is for Josh. Should I open this now? Yeah, yeah. By the way, I hate surprises. So I wanted to tell you that good things always... Oh, no, that's not what you're supposed to open first. Oh, I didn't see that. Keep going. My vision is blurred by... What do you want me to get out of here first? You'll get it first. The number of items. There, that's right there. That one right there. Oh, my God, it's a Zune. It's a... How many... It's an original. Oh, my God, it's the original Zune. The original white Zune. It's like... Is this new? Did you buy this on eBay? What's going on here? It doesn't matter where I got it. Steve Ballmer may have sent it to me. But so, you know, all the... My Zune sync cable? All good things must come to an end. Oh, this makes so much sense now. The Zune comes to an end. And, you know, we have to come to an end right now. I think they're still selling the Zune in, like, Canada. That's another present. What is this? The Zune is the main present. No, no, no, no. That's a special flask. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's a cell phone flask. And it says... I was trying to present that one here. Can you see this? It says, this is my next phone on it. It actually says, this is my next flask. Oh, flask. It's a PH. And it's true. My next flask is... So you're more excited about the $18 flask than you are about the white Zune. This is way more valuable than this. Which I had to go to Redmond's. Can I just say this? You went to Redmond for this? Joanna was walking around backstage, very mysteriously before the show going, does anybody have a PC? I need to sync something. Shh, don't tell anyone. I always use Windows 7. Oh, my God, it's working. Hold on, wait a second. Yeah, it works. There's a special song on there. It's like three years old. You ruined my... So there's a special song on there. How did I ruin it? It's your job to show me what you gave me, okay? Yeah, I forgot. Make a call. This is not a touch screen, right? It is not. Yes, it is. It just crashed. No, I'm kidding. Is there a playlist on here? No, just one really important song for you. Oh, come on, man. Is it a play? It's Justin Bieber. This doesn't have speakers there. Are we getting that? Can we see that? And you can actually, you know how you used to like the song? You can just put a little heart on it. There we go. Can I do more than one heart? I really hope you're getting this on camera. I don't know if they are. Right there. Believe me, this is amazing what's happening down here. Broken heart right there. Oh. Well, that's really great. Thanks a lot. Way to make this not sting. So moving on, Eli, this is for you. And I have to listen to Justin Bieber. Gina, this is amazing. What is this? These are fake beats? Oh, yeah. So this is the best part about this. I got this on eBay. And it came with these fake beats headphones. I'm surprised. I don't know how this happened. There's a lot to be desired, doesn't it? But there's fake beats on the... That's amazing. This is insane. Where's my flash? And you know, Paul, you can do yours at the same time. You get this special bag. Paul's bag is cool. I got a Paulson bag. Wow. I don't want this to die. Oh, by the way, I don't know if you guys caught this, but this has a belt clip. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm just going to get that on there right now. Oh, yeah. There's one thing there. Oh, I'm getting a call. Hold on. It's booze. I was going to actually fill it up. Hello? I was actually going to fill it up. Last night? No, I don't remember anything. Ah. We had to... Let me holster this. Stern got me a rock and roll bracelet. Oh, my God. This is awesome. Wow. Personalized. Whoa. Screw that bracelet. Sorry, sorry, guys. Is it fit? Sorry, George and John. I worked very hard to get your measurements. It fits. How do you work hard to get measurements? Your fiance. He does have an unnaturally thick wrist. That's why she's been mysteriously measuring my wrist this whole time. Oh, my God. You wake up and Joanna's there with a tape measure. We've had many conversations that go secretly measure his wrists. She's like, why don't I just measure his other cuffs? It's amazing. Oh, my God. She's very smart. Joanna, that's amazing. I can't wait to sync it with my PC. Paul has a robot. Beautiful mechanical robot. Is that a famous robot? Yeah. Isn't that the... It's this famous brand apparently. We should know. Come on. We're a tech site. No, I don't know. Planet robot. Planet robot. I don't know that robot. This is amazing. I'm kind of upset the one I ordered was actually a female robot. All right, all right. Look, this is all really touching and everything and I'm very moved. This is amazing. I'm moved. I'm extremely moved. Are you listening to the music on your Zune or no? No, but I am wearing my holster. Okay, good. I want to know about that. But look, enough of the sadness, enough of the crying. Joanna, seriously, we wish you the best. Give Joanna a round of applause. This is amazing. Thank you, guys. And we always have a special place in my heart for you. The place where people go who I hate. But seriously, enough of the sadness and depression. Let's hear some music. Let's turn this into a dance party. I'm not going to dance. Our musical guest tonight. We already did turn it into a dance party. Can you just be quiet? I'm trying to say something. No rules, man. Our musical guest. It looks so good. It does. I'm really into this. Whenever you guys are ready. Yeah, sorry. We don't have a show. No, no, no. You're ready? The decider. Did you just decide? It's a half-past rock and roll. Our musical guests are really amazing. I don't want to over-hype them. But they sound like Genesis. The Sega Genesis. And I think you'll enjoy them. Ladies and gentlemen, George and Jonathan. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Show me the finger waggle. Oh, my God. That was amazing. That was amazing. George and Jonathan. And I don't think I overstated how amazing they are. So that is pretty much our show. I want to thank you guys so much for coming out. Get up here. Get over here. Come on over. Don't worry. You're not done. You're not nearly done. I want to thank Jamie for coming out. That was amazing of him. I want to thank Joanna Stern. Thank you, guys. Neelay Patel. Thank you all. Paul Bellerin. Of course, George and Jonathan. If everybody here sticks around, we're going to do some giveaways after we're done. But George and Jonathan are going to play one more. And I also want to thank Sony, again, for sponsoring this. This holster feels really weird. You should just make a call. Seriously, thank you guys so much. That's our show. Once again, George and Jonathan. Thanks. Bye.
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 Thank you
 Thank you, we got it there's only really have a limited time for this show Jimmy's gotta go so
 Thank you so much. I'm Josh Topolsky. Welcome to on the verge. I'm so happy you guys could be here
 So please thank you for joining us. We have an amazing show for you tonight. Just incredible and
 I don't want to waste too much time talking about it, but I will say we've got some incredible people here Jimmy Fallon
 Who's been our friend and is a hilarious entertaining guy is here tonight. Feel free to applaud
 and
 We have
 We have a spectacular musical guest George and Jonathan they are
 Yeah, totally nuts
 They will blow your mind if your mind is not blown by the end of their performance you get your money back
 Though this was free. So
 Yeah, sure. I don't know how we're gonna work that out. We'll figure it out though
 And of course, you know, we've got Paul Miller and Eli Patel here. Our Joanna Stern is here
 And we've got some giveaways later on everybody's gonna have a chance to win something. Everybody's not getting something don't get too excited
 And I'm sure to go super smooth
 And
 Yeah, it's exciting and and I don't want to waste time telling you about the show because if I stand here telling you how
 Good, it's gonna be we're eating at a time that you could be experiencing the actual goodness of the show
 Oh one other thing. I want to thank our sponsor Sony. They've been a great partner and
 They're helping us put the show on tonight. So give him a round of applause
 I think I
 I think we should just I think we just get this thing started. So let's do it
 Yeah
 Yes, again again. I don't want to spend time telling you how great the show is gonna be but
 It's just fantastic. I mean, it's really good and we got these cool giveaways. We have the uncharted 3 bundle from Sony
 It's a PlayStation. It's games. It's it's a game at least and
 These cool bamboo iPad cases. They're handmade
 Very exciting, but we have a lot of show to get to and I just want to get it underway
 So please welcome Paul Miller and Eli Patel. We're gonna talk about some news
 Yeah, thank you
 Thanks for coming
 You should have
 Just slide over here. Oh, it's been so long. Yes, but
 Lots to talk about lots. We've been very busy
 Yeah, so we're in February now, which is actually kind of a slow month for tech news because in January
 CES happens and
 CES the Consumer Electronics Show. I don't know what you're doing here if you need to hear that but
 But it's a crazy crazy show and this year we did just not crazy coverage. How many posts do we do like?
 910 thousand
 It's like a few state
 We did we did a lot of stuff at CES and we actually wanted to give you guys an idea of what the experience is
 Like being there for us. So we put together a little video kind of a montage and we want you to take a look at it
 So check this out
 What is CES? Why is it speaking? Well, it's the Consumer Electronics Show. If I had to answer your question, assh***
 I've spent more time in Vegas before turning 21 than I need to spend in Vegas an entire lifetime
 We'll send people in waves to the show floor to cover the news as fast as we can
 This is Dieter Bohn for the Verge and we're taking a look at the Lenovo S2
 The Logitech Cube mouse Thermador freedom induction cooktop here LG's brand new 55 inch OLED
 Sensex smart goggles. We're looking at the razor blade. This is the MakerBot replicator
 It's Sam with the Verge and I'm about to ride the board of awesomeness
 I haven't got any lip for skateboarding this whole time
 But the fact that she thought we were making a skateboarding film
 Definitely made him a lot more suspicious, you know? Squeeze the pad, and then you just gotta lean forward, go for it. Get a foe, not too fast
 This is Sam Baffin with the Verge and this is the Inventor Solar Whale and I'm getting off right now
 Everyone here is telling me I don't look good enough for Justin Bieber. They don't know what they're talking about. Are you taping this?
 If I jump, I actually jump and I can punch and I'm just knocking buildings over
 Alright, everybody get into the turntable room. 3, 2, 1, go. That's right
 Did anyone get to see a million volt Tesla coil at this CES yet?
 So what are all these people doing in the trenches?
 Broken a horn. It's non-stop. It's f***ing weird actually. I don't know how anywhere gets done around here
 You know you want some of this. Oh, you're a bad man
 It is the one place that you can go and see pretty much every insane gadget you could possibly think of
 What's happening right now? How are you? Joanna
 Joanna? Yes. You do love me right? I love you. Okay
 Wow. Oh my God. Wow. What is going on? Wow
 I'm joined by Simon Segers who is president of Arm Inc. We're sitting here with Aaron Woodman from Microsoft
 We are live with Mathias Duarte from Google. I'm sitting here with the Ford CEO Alan Mulally and the CTO of the company Paul Masquerenas
 I'm here with FCC Chairman Julius Jankowski
 We'll see what happens when I crank it up
 Are we doing this? We got the volume up here?
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How? How?
 How freaking fun does that look? I find it odd that I've chosen. It's not as much fun as it looks though because we're working so hard
 I don't remember any of that. I'm like let's go back. Yeah. No we should do it. Every week. Oh yeah. I live in a trailer now
 No it's really it's but we sleep like three hours a night
 But that makes it look like the best time in the world and there are like amazing moments there
 I think it's weird that I chose to do that. I think it's weird that I chose to do that
 I think this is your sat wave asking for a raise. Yes please. I could only afford one jacket. I've only got one fancy set of clothes
 Yeah one fancy set. So like now that we are a month away is there anything that like looks different to you in hindsight?
 Anything sticks out now? I feel physically cleaner because I'm not in the trailer and I'm not in Vegas
 The last night we went to the Cosmopolitan which we were told was like the newest fanciest hotel in Vegas
 No no reps here from the Cosmopolitan Vegas are there? Well I would just like if they are here I'd like to say the inside of the hotel is very fancy
 Still looks like a 1920s prostitute. It's weird. It's like straight up. That's the nice place. Go to the Cosmopolitan it was like this side
 I'm stepping into a flapper. Like a bar in Vegas. It's very there's a lot of people there
 But the technology it kind of there's not a lot of stuff that I walked away from going like that was incredible
 You know I'm still on the TV thing. Really? Yeah because you know. Your remote trip? The remote trip
 I think like. Meely had a theory at TES he was like remote will change the world. He was like we're in about the TVs changing the remote has to change
 I think unless you change how you interact with the TV you can't change anything about the TV itself
 And so I still think this is the year when that has to change you have to change like how you push the buttons and if you're going to
 Yeah, Apple. Alright. Is that what you're saying? Isn't that what you're trying to say? It's nice fanboy
 And you're saying that wasn't solved at the show? No I don't think so at all and I come away from that you know that was
 It was like what do you say pre-acting the Apple whatever they're going to do. Pre-acting. Pre-acting. Pre-actors. We should trade with them
 It's covered in Minority Report. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing.
 We should trade with them. It's covered in Minority Report. Preaction.com. Yeah. Dot biz.
 No but I think that unless you figure out how to solve the interaction problem you can't do it. I'm waiting. That's a big take away.
 Your theory with the remote has to change but you were actually impressed by a TV there right? Dude the 8K sharp TV I just like I keep on thinking about it how I want to watch TV
 What is the exact resolution of that? An 8K. Do you know the exact resolution? 8,000. Just 8,000 things. I don't know.
 8,000. Yeah it's just like there's a lot of pixels in a row. I will say this like I walked away we talked to the CEO of Nokia Stephen Elop
 Stefan Elo as we like to call him and he was a kind of fascinating guy. He was really smart. He's really selling it. I don't know when you get in front of him
 Dude and you don't know what happens and like two hours later you find yourself like in a fancy parking lot. Well he's Canadian right?
 Thomas Ricker interviewed him Chris Ziegler interviewed him and they're like glowing. I think he might be a vampire and he's like what do they do on True Blood?
 Somebody knows here come on. Glamour people. Wow you knew too fast. Whichever one of you that was. How do you glamour somebody?
 It's like you look at them deeply and then they like forget what's going on and you tell them what to do. Windows phone. Yeah right buy a Windows phone.
 I was like whatever you want Steven. When you were done talking to Steven were you wearing any clothes? Not from the waist down.
 That's a good sign that something might happen. Like I said I was in an empty parking lot and it was two hours later. No but we should move on because there's a bunch of other stuff to talk about.
 Facebook. Have you heard about this new site? Everybody's talking about it. Apparently you can connect with friends and family.
 No your ex-girlfriends will haunt you forever. If I had any ex-girlfriends that would be. Thanks a lot. You had to rub it in didn't you?
 Facebook filed for their IPO. They're going to go public. They're going to be a publicly traded company. You have a theory about it. What is your theory?
 I think this is like the moment when the internet kind of grows up. Facebook is if you read the filing they file with the SEC they're going to say we're going to be a public trading company.
 And you all are going to read the 25 page filing. I did it for you. I just want to be clear.
 And the only line where Mark Zuckerberg says in the filing he writes a letter in the middle of the filing. Numbers, numbers, numbers, charts and then a letter from Mark Zuckerberg.
 He's like I made Facebook because I wanted it to exist. And that's nuts right?
 You know what he also says is that human relationships are the fundamental unit of society. The basic society unit is a relationship.
 I don't know what is a society unit? Can you quantify a unit of society? You couldn't before Facebook.
 Now we know what the fundamental building block is. Human relationships.
 The idea that the company that some kid in college was like I want it to happen and now it's as big as GM or Apple or Microsoft.
 It's one of these amazingly huge parts of American economy. I think that makes it real.
 Once there is a lot of money and power in one place the government kind of like follows behind.
 They're like oh we should regulate this. That's what you're seeing.
 Or use Facebook to govern. Just think once everybody is on Facebook it will be easy to just like the law. I like that.
 You don't need the House or the Senate. Just likes. I'm into that. You know what? Let's just see what happens.
 What's the worst thing? It couldn't get any worse.
 Can you just imagine a politician, Mitt Romney standing up there and being like do you like me?
 He means it.
 People hovering over that button for ages.
 I don't know if I agree that this IPO is fundamentally different than a Google IPO.
 Facebook is very much part of our culture and I definitely see it as a permanent fixture in internet years.
 That's permanent.
 Is that like dog years? Like an internet year? Five years?
 I think the internet year is like ten years instead of seven.
 I'm so confused right now. I have zero idea what you're talking about.
 But you don't think it has staying powers. Is that what you're saying?
 I just think it could. It very well could if they keep it innovating. But they don't have any sort of lock. They don't have any sort of guarantee.
 At one point in my life I was doing a ton of social activities on MySpace.
 Wow. You were like a predator.
 I probably used MySpace back then more than I use social activities.
 I found a drummer on MySpace.
 Say what? You found a drummer on MySpace?
 I spent my social capital.
 You know we actually did a video.
 I went down to Wall Street because I wanted to try to talk.
 I was like I'm going to talk to analysts and Wall Street guys about Facebook and the Facebook IPO.
 Weirdly they did not want to speak on camera as if they were doing something secret or illegal.
 Or they were just really humble.
 Or just super humble. It's not us. It's the money. We're just here moving it around.
 We don't want to take credit for that. But there are a lot of Belgians who wanted to speak to us.
 But it's actually really interesting. We just talked about what people thought of Facebook and if they thought it was a viable company.
 Take a look at this video. It's quite interesting.
 Their stock is about to go public. Would you invest in Facebook?
 Probably not myself. No.
 I don't think so. No.
 How about you? No. Probably not.
 You're not going to invest? Why would I?
 Sucks to be Zuckerberg today doesn't it?
 Do you think they've got a solid business?
 For now. As long as they don't end up like MySpace.
 Are you checking Facebook right now? Is that what's happening?
 No. I'm just sexting somebody.
 Okay. Sexting or just regular texting?
 Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook?
 Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook?
 Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook?
 Nope. You know you've got to toughen up though. This is New York.
 You've got to be tough. You've got to be able to take rejection.
 Would you invest in Facebook?
 I would. Facebook is on everything now. You see on TV, newspapers, people talking about it. It's everywhere.
 You're both Facebook users? Yes.
 And what are your user names? Can I friend you?
 No.
 Would you invest in other companies? Maybe MySpace?
 It depends on what company they are. MySpace?
 MySpace. No one likes that.
 Excuse me. Can I ask you some questions about Facebook?
 Nope. That's the guy you want to talk to.
 Where? I don't know. He said you're the guy I want to talk to.
 I think in five years it's going to be one of the biggest companies in the world. Maybe soon, yes.
 We talk about a billion people and half of them are engaged every single day.
 How often do you check Facebook?
 Too often.
 You had to look at her. Do you guys check it together? Is this like a team effort?
 I check Facebook, if not every day, every three days. Every half an hour or so.
 I wake up and the first thing I do is go on Facebook.
 Who wants to talk about this guy right here on the phone?
 He's making a deal right now, but if he would stop making the deal for a second, I don't want to interrupt him.
 Do you worry that you'll go on at night and then just stay on all night long and then the sun will come up and you'll go,
 Oh my God, I've been on Facebook all night. Does that ever happen?
 Actually, that almost happened to me a few nights ago.
 Really? Yes.
 That's not good. I'm very worried. I'm very worried about your Facebook addiction. Please seek help.
 Yeah, so a lot of mixed messages out there about Facebook, but also a lot of people who would not talk to me.
 What's wrong with me? I mean, it's the microphone. When you start to put something in the microphone, it's like you're holding a gun.
 And they don't want it to go off.
 If you have a big camera, they're like, Oh my God, will you put me on the internet?
 Oh, they like that. Yeah, they love it.
 Now I should disguise the microphone as a camera.
 Just keep talking naturally. I'm not recording this.
 So this last week, you went to see something. I wouldn't describe this as news.
 We got PR for something called a phibian. Can you explain what a phibian is to these people?
 It's a truck that's also a boat.
 Could you be more descriptive?
 It's a boat that's also a truck.
 Would you describe it as a yacht that's also a pickup?
 Yes. Like a yickup?
 Well, yeah.
 It's a transformer of a sort.
 It is a transformer. It's very strange, but very exciting.
 And you went and did video there?
 Yeah, we hung out there for a day.
 You hung out with the phibian for a day?
 Yeah.
 Let's watch this video. I'm very interested to see exactly how this works.
 Hey guys, it's Neil Ida with The Verge. I'm here with the Gibbs Phibian, which is a very large truck that is also a boat.
 I'm not kidding. The wheels flip up when you enter the water, and this thing can blaze around at like 40 miles an hour.
 It can also go 80 miles an hour on land.
 There's two 250 horsepower engines inside. It's crazy, and we're going to take it for a ride. Let's go.
 This jacket, phibian compatible. This is quite a look that I'm going with right now, I have to say.
 Come to my car that's a boat. My truck that's a yacht.
 It is a very large truck that is also a boat, as far as I can tell.
 It's actually not a truck and it's not a boat. It's an amphibian.
 And it's not just any amphibian, it's a high-speed amphibian.
 So can you go 80 miles an hour, flip the wheels, and go 40 miles an hour in the water?
 You can in a James Bond film, but...
 So you've never taken it off like a hill?
 Laws of nature and physics make life difficult in that sense.
 You've got to live. You only live once.
 Goodbye land. Land is for suckers.
 Oh, we're in the water. All of my dreams are coming true.
 My yacht that's a speedster.
 That's the button that flips out the wheels?
 Now we're a boat.
 The design has been specifically generated with the geometry to enable you to have normal road vehicle handling on road.
 But when you get into the water, the geometry enables the whole wheel to be retracted, much the same as an aircraft wheel gets retracted.
 I mean, what I really want to do is drive the thing, let's be honest.
 Well, I want to drive it too.
 So where are the buttons for, say, like the missiles? What's the wildest thing a customer has asked for so far?
 There's quite a few wild things. I mean, a lot of them are things that we can't talk about.
 So basically what you're saying is somebody has put weapons on the back of your boat?
 Nobody has put a weapon on the back of this.
 No one's put a weapon?
 Well, I'm not carrying today, so...
 I would estimate that we're now going about as fast as this thing can go.
 I don't know what I feel right now. Just the hope, the optimism of knowing that I can also take this vehicle and go directly back on land and then drive over 80 miles an hour.
 As a man, I have to say that makes me pretty happy.
 Although that happiness is somewhat tempered by the fact that I can't shoot anything with this car that's also a boat.
 If you could really add an explosion into this mix, or like a Kenny Loggins song, that'd be awesome.
 I mean, not Danger Zone. That would be so Danger Zone!
 It was very strange.
 Very odd. I don't understand that.
 The guy was kind of giving you the runaround, but I just want to know, based on your technical expertise of car boats...
 I'm an expert now. I've ridden one for 10 minutes.
 Given the max speed of 80 miles per hour, a large enough ramp, hit it full speed, could it convert into a boat in time to land and continue going?
 Given a ramp of adequate size, the time, and most importantly, the skill...
 Like a Neil I. Patel with a wheel.
 I would definitely think Neil I. should be driving it.
 Only a Yiccup operator of extraordinary capability. But you could do it.
 That's a yes. That's fantastic. We should keep moving because we have a bunch of stuff to get to.
 We want to talk about a couple of things that we're just into right now that we're excited about.
 Neil I. you've been talking about the new Sony camera, the NEX7. And by the way, unrelated to the sponsorship here, he really likes the camera.
 In fact, it's a little annoying how much he talks about it.
 Yeah, it's such a gadget. Most new things are like apps.
 It's like, wow, look at the pixels on my screen change color.
 But this is like it has a screen that flips...
 It's a touch screen though.
 No. It's not. No.
 I'm not interested. No. Dials, man. Buttons, dials.
 You have to touch a button? No, you have to spin a dial.
 That sounds like a lot of work.
 Are you going to settle down? Am I going to? No.
 Is this going to be it for you? Is this going to be your main squeeze?
 No, man. This camera is going to get old. I'm going to find a newer, younger camera.
 You're going to run around on this camera? Yeah.
 How do you think that's going to make the camera feel?
 Cameras don't have feelings, do they?
 Don't they?
 And Paul, what is the thing that you were talking about? You were talking about Sparrow.
 Yeah, one of our editors, Thomas Houston, has the private beta of Sparrow's...
 You can't see it here, but this is an image of an app on a phone.
 So Sparrow makes the... That's what I'm saying.
 The iPhone.
 Paul's showing you pixels on his screen. I've got hardware.
 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
 Sometimes I deal with highly sensitive, very secret projects, and Sparrow is one of them.
 But they're bringing their email client...
 They currently have an email client on the Mac, which is a really fun way to use Gmail,
 especially with threaded conversations, inline replies, and labels, and unified inbox.
 I absolutely love it.
 And they're bringing it to the phone, and it's going to change my life.
 But it can't be your default.
 It can't be your default, and I hope Apple fixes that.
 Maybe if Apple were less restrictive. I know.
 It could be your default.
 Speaking of Apple, I'm actually... Let me just look through these many, many cards I have.
 I wrote a great American novel in cards for myself.
 I'm actually really excited about the iPad 3.
 There have been a lot of rumors about it recently.
 I actually wrote a post, because we had some information,
 and I speculated in the post that the iPad 3 would be announced probably around the first week of March.
 And AllThingsD said March.
 AllThingsD then basically confirmed...
 Just copied you.
 I think they have a red phone that goes right to Apple. I don't know, but they seemed to always know.
 They basically said it's going to be the first week of March.
 But after I wrote my post, I realized that there's an extra day in February this year.
 There's a February 29th, because it's a leap year.
 And Apple's thinking pretty clever, and I was like, oh, this is a perfect opportunity.
 They'll do something like, it's time to leap ahead.
 I saw that tweet. I was like, oh, did I miss an Apple event?
 Yeah. You actually thought it was a real thing that was happening.
 Oh, was I sleeping?
 By the way, I'm thinking about just quitting to think up taglines for Apple events.
 It's time to leap ahead. You guys are going to love this.
 So I started kind of thinking, doing some research on what that... on if that lined up.
 And I looked at when the last two iPads were announced.
 And do you remember when they were announced?
 The last... the iPad 2 was in March, and the iPad 1 was January.
 Yeah. So the iPad 1 was announced January 27th, and the iPad 2 was announced March 2nd.
 Now, do you know what days they do those events on?
 Apple normally does its events on Tuesdays.
 Yeah. And I thought they were on Tuesdays.
 But those were actually on Wednesdays.
 And February 29th, which is a day that normally does not appear, it's a Wednesday.
 Only once every four years.
 So actually, I've actually been working on something, if I can just show you.
 Hang on a second.
 Because I think I figured this out.
 So, as we just said, iPad 1 announced January 27th, right?
 iPad 2 announced March 2nd, Wednesdays.
 What's interesting is 27 plus 2 equals 29.
 29. As in February 29th, 2012, a leap year.
 You know something else that's interesting about 2012?
 20 plus 12 equals 32. Now by itself, that doesn't seem very interesting.
 But minus 3, as in iPad 3, and you're back to 29.
 Think that's a coincidence? I didn't think it was a coincidence.
 So I was starting to get pretty confident here, but then I realized something.
 Microsoft announced that they were going to do their consumer preview of Windows 8 on the 29th.
 Which kind of throws a monkey wrench in the plans.
 But then I started researching the number 8. And it turns out 8 is a lucky number in China.
 You know what comes from China? iPads.
 And you know what's definitely coming from China? The iPad 3.
 Now, something else comes from China a lot of the time for us, which is rumors.
 And we actually reported on a rumor from a supply chain in China,
 and they described the iPad 3 display, which they apparently have seen, as a quantum leap in display technology.
 Quantum leap, as in leap year.
 Just wait, because there's more evidence here.
 Quantum leap is interesting, actually. It's an interesting phrase.
 Quantum leap was a show that aired on NBC starring Scott Bakula.
 Now, I don't know if you know about the show. It was about a guy who time travels and jumps into people's bodies to right wrongs.
 It started airing in 1989 on March 26th. 26 plus 3 is 29.
 iPad 3, 29. February 29th, 2012.
 Now, when quantum leap started airing, it wasn't immediately a hit.
 They put it on Fridays, and it was kind of flopping.
 So they had to move it. They had to move quantum leap to a different day.
 And you know what day they moved it to? What day do they move it to?
 Yeah, Wednesday. They moved it to Wednesday.
 Now, sure, that seems a little weird, considering all the other stuff we've seen,
 but the rabbit hole goes way, way deeper on this one.
 Quantum leap aired during a leap year, 1992.
 Guess what day 1992 started on? Wednesday.
 Wednesday, 1992. That's the first day, right?
 And in February of 1992, there was only one day left.
 In February of 1992, there was only one episode of quantum leap.
 One episode. There should have been four. I don't know why there was only one, but there was, and it was at the end of the month.
 The last Wednesday in February, the 26th. 26 plus 3 equals 29.
 Just wait. Okay? Just wait.
 Now, that episode, season 4, episode 15, A Song for the Soul,
 was about Sam leaping into the body of a girl in an R&B trio.
 A trio of singers. And his goal in that episode was to get them to not sign a contract.
 You know what doesn't have contracts? iPads with data plans.
 You don't have to sign a contract with a data plan.
 And as we've heard about the iPad 3, it's going to have LTE.
 Three letters, no big deal. I'm not going to get into that.
 But you can be sure that when it does have data, it's not going to have a contract.
 But this gets even weirder. And actually, when I figured out the next part, I really got chills.
 As I said, the main character in Quantum Leap was a guy named Sam.
 He's played by Scott Bakula. Scott Bakula was recently in another series called Men of a Certain Age.
 Men of a Certain Age airs on TNT, which is a Turner station.
 Turner also owns TBS, which is the station that Conan O'Brien is now on.
 Now, who took over Conan O'Brien's slot when he left the 1230 slot on NBC?
 Yeah, Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon took the slot.
 And you know what the first date of his first show was? March 2nd.
 The same day the second iPad was released.
 So I think if you look at all of this data, I think it's fairly obvious what's going on here.
 Clearly, on February 29th, 2012, a day that should have never existed,
 Tim Cook is going to walk out on stage, joined by Scott Bakula and the cast of Quantum Leap,
 and he's going to introduce the iPad 3.
 Any questions? Paul, any questions?
 The numbers all add up.
 I rest my case. I rest my case.
 I knew you would see how clear this empirical data was.
 And we'll be right back with one of the main conspirators, Jimmy Fallon. So stick around.
 We want to create in Nathan Drake a character that people look at like their favorite cinema hero.
 Somebody that you can relate to.
 I'd be lying if I said I didn't think about Bruce Willis and Die Hard.
 One of our greatest challenges was trying to find our iconic actor.
 So much of what makes Drake Drake is in Nolan.
 Nolan was one of the few guys that came to the show.
 He stood out because he brought a quirky sense of humor.
 Really? I don't think you can be a good actor without a strong imagination.
 Mark!
 Nowhere is that more evident than on a motion capture stage.
 You need a willingness to play in this virtual sandbox.
 We walk into a gray room covered in gray carpet.
 Imagine the ship is over there. Imagine that you're looking over the edge of a cliff.
 There's so many facets of acting that go into motion capture.
 The remarkable thing about Nolan is he can play Drake to a tee.
 He's a huge piece of these games, a huge piece of what we do here.
 What is all this crap you're giving me about Sony?
 Those guys are not here for historical research and neither are you.
 With Sony, we try to blur the lines between what is a game and what is a movie.
 This is the first blending of the two that people have fully embraced.
 Come on, admit it.
 You love all this as much as I do.
 It's not cinematic-like. It is cinematic.
 There's no better way to say it.
 What we do to bring Uncharted to life is all about imagination.
 And that's what Sony's Make.Believe is all about.
 You've seen what goes into creating the animation for Uncharted.
 Now show us your own moves at Sony.com slash experience.
 Yeah, that is a... I gotta say, that is a hell of Uncharted, a hell of a game.
 You should play it.
 Again, this is not for the sponsor's sake. It's a good game.
 So, my next guest really needs no introduction.
 He's been a great friend to us and he's a hilarious, hilarious man.
 Please welcome the star of Taxi, Jimmy Fallon.
 Yeah.
 Hey, everybody. How you doing?
 Thank you.
 Hey, everybody. How you doing?
 Thank you.
 Oh, man.
 This is gorgeous.
 This is fun.
 You're a fan of Uncharted, right? You've played?
 I love Uncharted 3. It's amazing. Uncharted 2 is my favorite game I've ever played.
 Do you want a drink? I feel badly we've left you out of this.
 Yeah, it's awkward that you're the only one here with a drink.
 Can we bring a drink over here for Jimmy?
 I want to get you relaxed because apparently you're very upset with me.
 I want to get into that.
 Oh, yeah. I'm not really that... Thanks so much.
 There's no rupees in there at all, by the way.
 I can assure you of that.
 Young man. I actually don't know who that is.
 Who let that guy in here?
 You know what happened? I just had a big couple of weeks.
 Probably the biggest weeks of my life, I would say.
 In two weeks, I went to the White House.
 And I did a sketch with the First Lady, Michelle Obama.
 Yeah, just a little sketch with the First Lady.
 And then after that, I did shows from the Super Bowl in Indianapolis.
 Yeah, you were on the road. I didn't realize it. I talked to your producer, Gavin.
 He was like, we're doing the Super Bowl stuff.
 Because I didn't know if you were going to be able to make it for the show.
 And I had no idea what he was talking about.
 And then I turned on TV.
 And you're like, no, but I turned on to tune in and watch.
 And there you were.
 So I called you and I asked you.
 Because I have an SLR. I have a giant camera.
 I said, I want one of those tiny cameras you can carry with you that's just awesome.
 TheVerge.com. Let me know what's going down, Josh.
 Don't disappoint, my man.
 Topolsky. You know, J-Tops.
 Tell me what's going down.
 You said, oh, I'll tell you what's up.
 Canon PowerShot S100.
 Now, I love Canon.
 I just want to pause you here.
 I consulted with every senior editor on the site.
 I was like, Jimmy wants a point.
 I trust you. I don't care if you talk to anyone.
 I wanted to make sure it wasn't crazy.
 So here it is. This is it. The Canon S100, right?
 After this, Canon will never advertise with us.
 No, by the way, we use Canon stuff on our shirt.
 No, no, no. Don't glad hand it. Let's just get into it.
 This is a pretty impressive piece of art.
 Can you just hold this like a human being would hold a camera?
 How would you hold it?
 What do you mean?
 Stop right there. Stop. Pause.
 No, you moved. Pause. Stop.
 Just don't move your f***ing hands.
 Stop it. Put your hands back.
 No, where they were. Hold the camera.
 I don't understand. I'm trying to hold it.
 You've been beating. Pick up the camera and take a picture of me.
 Right now. Stop.
 Your fingers on the f***ing flash.
 So f*** that camera.
 You're f***ing wasting my time.
 I'm at the White House.
 I'm at the White House.
 That's never going to happen again, Josh.
 Who uses a flash?
 Who uses a flash?
 Fall flash photos look like pornography.
 What are you talking about?
 I don't know where I was going. I was at the Super Bowl.
 Everything's blurry.
 I could be anywhere with anyone.
 I could be at the Blue House.
 Beautiful photo. No flash.
 You look a little angry in this one. I'll be honest with you.
 I need a drink. I need a drink.
 Have a sip.
 Is that a big flaw or is that not a giant flaw?
 How do you make the flash work?
 I never use the flash.
 What do you mean? Have you ever seen flash photography?
 It's like a Calvin Klein ad from 1996.
 Where is the flash? How do you engage the flash?
 How do you engage the flash?
 Imagine being in front of the first lady.
 Excuse me while I figure out how to engage the flash.
 Let me take a picture of something dark.
 Right there.
 Where was your finger?
 It was right back here.
 You've got baby fingers? Who's got fingers?
 I probably have larger hands than you.
 I would say they're considerably larger.
 Thanks for the advice. This thing is great.
 What I'm hearing from you is you don't know how to use a camera.
 Mainly.
 You did what I did. I grabbed it like I would grab.
 By the way, were you in situations where it was real dark
 and you were with the first lady? What's going on?
 I can't worry about lighting.
 We had low lighting.
 I don't light my situations in life.
 It was by candlelight.
 I don't want to bother anybody.
 They don't have overhead lighting at the White House?
 What's going on there? They're still using gas light?
 It's magic. I captured on this Jim Jammer.
 By the way, I didn't design the project.
 I don't know if I can just get right in that one.
 What is that?
 I don't know. It's dark. It could be anything.
 It's artistic.
 It could be anyone.
 I like that.
 I don't like that at all.
 You're on the verge of not being used as a thing I can check cameras out on.
 I honestly...
 That was sloppy. I'm sorry. That was sloppy.
 I honestly think...
 I think this is user error is what we're dealing with here.
 It's definitely flat.
 Would you describe yourself as good at taking pictures?
 No.
 Awesome.
 I'm the worst.
 You pick up the camera.
 I'm a comedian.
 Pick it up.
 Are you taking a picture right now?
 I don't know.
 Are you?
 Are you taking a photo?
 I'm taking a picture for every human alive.
 You didn't pick it up like this.
 I picked it up like that.
 Let's roll the video tape.
 Picking up and shooting are two different things.
 You tried to shoot it. It was embarrassing on your part.
 We'll edit it and make it look embarrassing.
 It wasn't embarrassing on your part.
 This is insane.
 GPS technology.
 You don't want to be located.
 I know where I am. I'm the one taking the picture.
 GPS. Tell me where I am.
 It's loaded into your iPhone.
 It shows you on the map.
 Where was I? Maybe I was in the White House.
 I thank God for the GPS.
 It tells me where I was.
 You do have a point.
 Maybe you don't need the GPS.
 I appreciate it. Thanks, John.
 I can just throw money around.
 I'm actually pretty sure you can just throw money around.
 By the way, how much is this?
 I think it's like three bills.
 I'll write you a check after the show.
 I don't trust your checking account.
 I owe travelers checks.
 Congrats, dude. Thank you so much.
 I'll figure it out.
 Your opinions on cameras are bad.
 I hate this thing.
 What's plan B? Do you have another camera?
 I have a Sony Alpha.
 A monkey can take a great picture with the Sony Alpha.
 Why don't you take the Alpha with you?
 I pressed the button and it looks awesome.
 That was a great recommendation.
 I went up too far. I went to the Canon 5D.
 Wait, you're saying I recommended the Alpha to you?
 And it was a good recommendation?
 I recommended it to myself.
 You researched on The Verge.
 That's where you do all your research.
 Not the virgin.com, which is a different site.
 But weirdly, you host both shows.
 I host both shows.
 Congratulations, by the way.
 I invite you on my show.
 I'm happy to be here.
 I'm psyched and proud of you.
 I like what you're doing.
 I'm just emulating you.
 I have a desk now.
 Are you and Tom emailing?
 Yeah. He's saying the lighting is bad on you.
 No, Tom. You know what I'm talking about.
 From MySpace?
 Nope.
 Tom DeLay?
 Who did I introduce you to? Your new best friend.
 Tom Cruise.
 Yeah.
 I'm back stage. They start throwing emails back and forth.
 We're friendly.
 It changes guys' lives.
 You let me talk to me.
 When he comes to New York, we do a little babysitting with Suri.
 It's not a big deal.
 Suri, babysit.
 I didn't know that was an option.
 That was amazing, by the way.
 The thing about Tom Cruise, and I think I told you this backstage.
 About six years ago, I started telling everybody that Tom Cruise is my favorite actor.
 He was great?
 Kind of as a joke though.
 Because he's over the top.
 I disagree.
 Three years after that, I was like, actually he's pretty good.
 I had to follow through on the jokes.
 I started watching all his movies.
 I've seen a lot of them.
 Rain Man. If it wasn't for him, he sets up Dustin Hoffman's character.
 Magnolia.
 They make the best cupcakes, man.
 Are you segwaying into food?
 I didn't know what was going on.
 I am a little hungry. I have a little package.
 Can we get a hamburger out here for Jimmy?
 You have a little package?
 I don't know what.
 Good for you, man. You just come out and say it. Be honest. Honesty is the best policy.
 I just want to say, Jimmy's aggression is warranted.
 I came on his show last time and I told him that his app was overpriced.
 Yeah, you did. It's 99 cents.
 I'm sticking to that.
 It's a great app.
 I'm really hurt right now. I'm having trouble recovering from this.
 It's a great app. I do have an app. Can I show people the app?
 Yeah, Jimmy has an app. He's an app developer now.
 If there's any bug reports, send them to jimmyfallon.com.
 Is that your email address?
 Yeah, do you want to do that or just...
 I think... Do we have to plug this?
 It's actually joshuatheverge. I'm not embarrassed. You can know my email address. No big deal.
 And he has a tiny package.
 Look, here's the app right here.
 It's called Wake Up Call. This is cutting edge technology.
 What it is, is it's a clock.
 Can you see this?
 Yeah, it's an alarm clock.
 That dude, classy, Downton Abbey type of vibe.
 You can flip over to him. It's like Tron. What's going down?
 Then you go over to him. He's the old flip dude. You're at a cheap motel saying what's going down.
 Then you flip sideways. What? Bigger numbers.
 That's what I'm talking about. It's a major advancement.
 The whole point of this is it's an alarm clock.
 It's an alarm clock where I call your phone.
 You've revolutionized the alarm clock industry.
 You set the alarm for whatever you want and then I can call you.
 I will just call you and your phone will ring and it will be like...
 Hey, it's Jimmy. Time to wake up.
 Good honor for Jimmy.
 Face the view with your underpants on.
 Yeah. Or you can go...
 Hey, it's Jimmy. Guess what?
 It's time to churn the buttermilk.
 Look, whatever you want.
 Whatever you want. Whatever you want.
 Whatever you want to wake you up.
 That seems really good.
 It seems like really good stuff.
 The ringtone, the fake ringtone.
 What I'm most impressed with is that you're not using your fame,
 you're not like pimping out yourself.
 You're not using your prestige to sell an Afri9-9.10.
 That's what's important.
 That's the best background you've had all night. That's pretty good.
 and that's your. I mean you know you know here's what is the
 fun. I was wrong. I was wrong. Yeah, that is all.
 I said this thing because I want to create a lot of thought
 because I was tired of you know you set your alarm clock and
 and they tell us the rules.
 You know, I don't know man you press the biggest button on the
 alarm clock is.
 It's a snooze button. Yeah, you've clearly never.
 It's always like 9 minutes.
 10 minutes or something says that between 9 11 7 and 10 what
 so this I said 5 minutes 10 minutes 15 you go to 7 hours.
 That's good. That's where the bullcrap I have to say that is
 that is worth that is worth the president so actually I want to
 talk about your show for a second so
 I think when you start out beyond is I think people like
 Jimmy Fallon yeah, it sucks. Yeah, we don't want to be
 honest. It's hard to replace a guy like Conan o'brien is
 fantastic news. He's done his show for 16 years. So he's he's
 a comfortable face in your living room for 16 years you
 write went to school with them, you know I was in college when
 it's a month. No what basically he was on my you're watching my
 dirty. Yeah that prices right. So I watch weird combo. I love
 prices right learn so much about the value of things I was
 just so I just I didn't have to you know was no shows he had to
 follow on the plot, you know right prices right to watch
 whenever the. Yeah, so following that it's not the
 easiest thing I mean so and I don't know how to do a talk
 show. I'm just starting out. I don't know it's tricky because
 it's just it's talking. Yeah, so it's quite but it's but it's
 it's like you worry about those things you asking questions and
 like I had Robert De Niro on as my first guest who is the the
 greatest actor in the world. I love that guy so much and I
 just asked my favor if you would do it and he said okay.
 He's he's not I mean I don't want to insult the man yeah,
 not a great interview that I mean that's my but that's what
 I knew that going in right. Maybe I could be the guy cracks
 yeah, because it is kind of like it is like a stone he's
 kind of like he gives you a look doesn't like to talk.
 Yeah, we're not that I saw your but the time. We did at the
 end of the night. No, but I so it's what had to near on his
 nice not to come on the show and he comes on and I had my
 questions all set up and have probably 6 minutes to talk to
 Robert here in 6 minutes and see Mike a lot but it is it
 just especially when you're flopping like I was and I go to
 rock you like so so you do you live in New York right, you
 goes.
 And this is the answer is it's like and I'm just like okay,
 and I'm like and you can hear people like unwrapping candy.
 So you
 it's flop sweat. It is it was I was so scared. Our shows
 was terrifying. It's hot and like that audience when it's
 quiet in there. I mean it's the same in here you guys are
 terrifying when it's quiet. I learned this I had a something
 a few episodes ago I fly.
 A demo the series every time you have a great time you always
 know, but it was horrible. I was like it did a copter up
 and almost broke a light and almost fell on someone they
 suit. I was aiming for you but yeah, but but the near.
 Yeah, but it was so so it was like I barely scrape through it
 and I love Robert De Niro for just taking the chance to come
 on the show and it was brand new. No one else has the guts
 to do something like that like I just really will never forget
 those like that first week of booking is so hard when you
 have a new show and just like if you ever get a chance to see
 any Robert De Niro movies go do it because the guy is the
 greatest human he's a good actor. I don't know if you've
 heard I heard about a great guy and that was like so I that
 was my first interview and that kind of after that I was
 just so nervous and the reviews were correct. You know they
 weren't 100% positive. But you but you've grown the show I
 actually feel like you guys are doing some of the smartest and
 I'm not saying this because I go on the show occasionally,
 but it's some of the smartest weirdest funniest comedy on
 late night. There's a lot of late night guys now it's like
 it used to be where there's just 2 do yeah, there's a lot
 of people on and there's a lot of really good comedy late
 night and you guys are doing some of the it's just so smart
 and so funny thank you we're also late so it's like no one
 really cares at the network. Yeah, so I mean I think you
 can watch our show. What what our ultimate goal is we're very
 positive person so I want people to have a fun experience
 when they watch the show and I think it's the end of the day.
 So if you had a bad day if life sucks. You still have TV you
 got to turn on and Alan if you get 30 seconds of not worrying
 about your life that's the best gift. I like the answer to the
 the one percent really you're going to be the cure. I don't
 know what I know I really you know we actually put together
 we put together a couple of moments from the show that we
 thought really great because if you guys haven't seen it.
 You should see it and I want to show it here so just take a
 look at this you get an idea of just how good
 and funny Jimmy show it is funny. Yeah.
 This is not my show. Yeah, this is it.
 Oh my goodness there you are you're doing a sketch. Yeah.
 Hey there, what's up man? You got a computer there? Yes. Cool
 man. Computers are awesome. What kind of computer you got?
 It's IBM laptop? Macintosh powerbook? Packard Bell? Zenith?
 It's just a laptop. What is it? Tandy? It's just a laptop.
 Fax modem? No, it's just a laptop. That's all it is.
 Just a laptop. Now Tony Danza takes to the Broadway stage to
 rekindle the magic that was Who's the Boss in an uproarious
 one-man show Samantha Jonathan Angela Mona. Remember the time
 Tony had to miss the big game? Man oh man the championship game
 I can't wait. Hey who took my glove? Samantha, Angela, Mona,
 Jonathan. And the time Tony caught Angela dating his best
 friend. Angela. You relive all the moments that made Who's the
 Boss a smash hit for nearly a decade. There you go. He's such
 a nice guy man. It's weird. I would think you guys were
 shooting in HD at this point. All the rest of the NBC is in HD.
 A little video camera. Can you tell me what's going on there?
 That was not late night with Jimmy Fallon by the way. You got
 to start somewhere. I was in college in Albany, New York and
 there's a show called 40 Wax. W... No I think it is Wax.
 Doesn't matter how you spell it. If it was W-A-X it would have
 been cooler. W-A-X-A-C-K-S. Which is currently on the Playboy
 network. It was a show we started and just like a bunch of
 college kids got together and like tried to invent characters
 and I just had a Tony Danza impression. I just figured.
 It's good though. You got the essence of Danza there.
 Who's the boss? He would say everyone's name the same like
 Mona, Samantha, Angela, Jonathan. It's like the same.
 He was exasperated. Of course you would pull that out of
 nowhere. Trust me it killed here. Oh my goodness.
 We're going to add a lot of laughing to that.
 No I don't mind. What is the deal with music? I feel like you
 do a ton of music stuff on the show. Like you performing music
 and you did when you were on SNL by the way if you haven't seen
 his SNL I think best one of the season. So funny. Really funny.
 And there's a lot of music sketches on it. You do a lot of
 music stuff on the show. I feel like you wanted to be a rock guy
 and you just ended up... You were all so funny and it was like
 you could go either way. But you're Neil Young. It sounds
 like Neil Young. Thanks. I like just like listening to music.
 That's like one of my favorite things. And I started as an
 impressionist. So I would do impressions of Jerry Seinfeld or
 going like, okay what is this place? We're on the verge.
 And I'd do that. Or Bill Cosby like, well the people
 just to post you were sitting in the desk with the slip.
 So I just get into things. All the people are insulting me.
 All the celebrities insulted John Tupolsky. Yeah, that's my
 whole act. And then I started doing music in college and I
 added like you know at the time it was like Dave Matthews band
 or something where we're like... And just adding things like
 that. So then when I got to Saturday Night Live I would do
 impressions and musical impressions. So now that I have
 my own show it's like I get to fill up an hour. So if we have
 a thing like Tim Tebow and I have a David Bowie impression
 you know some writer just puts it together and is like we
 should create a man called T-Bowie. I like that. That makes
 no sense. That just happens. Yeah, obviously. Oh yeah.
 And so then you know I'm painting my face with the
 lightning bolt and I'm wearing the Broncos jersey and I'm like
 Tim Tebow to Jesus Christ. Tim Tebow to Jesus Christ. Can't
 win by myself but with your help I might. I mean it's
 incredible. Super fun. You guys did a show. I gotta say I
 really appreciate you guys having me here and I love the
 set. It looks so good. The lighting is good. The camera
 works good. Your crew is amazing backstage. But if you don't
 mind I love the entrance music that you had and I would like
 to just take it out with a little break dancing right here
 because this reminds me of like a nice break. You know I
 actually wrote that. You did. Yeah. You did write the music.
 You want the intro music? Is that what you're asking for?
 Can we get the intro music for Jimmy? Just crank it up. Can this
 be done? As loud as you possibly can. We're not a very
 technically advanced studio. There we go. Yeah.
 Alright. I think that's a good place to end it. Jimmy thank you
 so much. Thank you. Thank you for having me everybody. And
 actually stick around for one more minute. We have a video.
 Paul went to GE. He looked at technology. You love technology.
 I love GE. So take a look at this and thanks again Jimmy.
 Thank you so much. You're welcome. Great show. Thanks
 everybody. Hi I'm Paul Miller with The Verge. I'm in a car
 right now. And I'm in upstate New York. I'm about to check
 out GE's research labs. And I've been tweeting back and forth
 with GE just trying to get a vibe. You know what's GE into?
 You know what did GE eat for breakfast? And you know I think
 I have a lot to learn. I've got a lot of questions. I'm ready
 to find some answers. So we are the central technology
 organization for GE. And in that role we support every GE
 business. From healthcare to energy to aviation to
 transportation. It's great to be at the center of all that
 stuff going on in the world. So this is GE's new Watt Station
 ecosystem. So you know you can show up here, charge your car
 and stuff. But they also want to tie into surrounding services.
 You can maybe reserve a rental car. We actually rented a, not
 rented, purchased a pizza. Nobody really knows what's going
 to happen or how it's going to be used. But by packing all this
 smart technology in there, there's some really potentially
 emergent applications that can come out of it. But mostly it's
 going to be for pizza.
 What are these closets for? So this is cancer. Is that correct?
 Look at this. I'm like a professional already. Enhance.
 They've got a prototype wireless patient monitor. What are all
 these little closets in these for? So I'm at GE's trip
 optimizer, which is sort of like an autopilot for train.
 That's right. The thing the trip optimizer does differently, it
 anticipates where this speed reduction is and backs off on
 the throttle. So it only goes to idle. How do you do blue
 sparks? Blue sparks? Yeah, Mario Kart, you toggle the joystick
 back and forth and you get the blue sparks and that gives you a
 speed boost. With a laser, we bring our components together
 with square edges. Bring them together, use the high energy
 density of the laser to penetrate straight through that.
 I was told like if you're making a battleship, you're saving
 hundreds, thousands of tons. You know, I'm actually looking.
 I haven't welded a battleship yet. I'm trying. That's what I'm
 looking at doing. And it turns out there'd be a lot of waste
 and metal. And so I'm just shopping around for the best way
 to create my own battleship. This is a dead man switch that
 allows us to start and stop the process. And if the laser kills
 you while it's welding, I will let go of the button and the
 process will stop. Even though you'll be dead, the laser will
 stop. Which is the important part. Great. All right, let's do this.
 It's a battleship grade. You know, when I think about the
 world, I think about our world, our shared planet, shared
 existence, the resources, the finite resources we have. Think
 about energy and smart grids and electric vehicles. Eventually,
 just think about the great research they're doing here in
 the middle of New York State, somewhere, somewhere at the
 Global Research Center. This is Paul Miller signing off.
 I actually have no idea what they do up here. I get the
 overwhelming impression you didn't understand a lot of
 stuff. I found cancer. Is that true? You found it. You found
 it. You're like, that's it? Get it. That's right. That's what I
 told him. Gee, guys, you gotta kill this cancer. Can I just say,
 what a sport Jimmy Fallon is. That's a little harder to
 follow up. He's like hanging out with the First Lady. He's a
 really famous person. There's no reason for him to be here at
 all. I don't know why he just agreed to it. But he was a great
 sport. I was hoping he would leave the camera too because
 there were photos of Michelle Obama on there and I wanted to
 see them. But that was just wild. But we actually have a
 little bit of sight news. It's actually kind of some bittersweet
 news. This is the first time that we're sharing it with
 anybody. I want to bring out Joanna Stern to talk to us.
 Everybody, Joanna Stern.
 Joanna, we're getting live. Go ahead. Go to D-Live. I'm last.
 Thank you for coming. Thank you. Oh my God. Have a seat. By the
 way, you get Jimmy's leftover drink.
 This is Jimmy's seat, right?
 That's his drink.
 That's he now owns it.
 Oh, he touched this?
 He touched that drink. I think he might have had a sip of it.
 If you want to get some Jimmy DNA, there's an opportunity.
 What is this?
 It's a vodka soda.
 Can I just say, we had this long conversation about bleeping
 the F-bomb in our videos and that conversation was completely
 worthless.
 It's really funny that we were very worried because Neli says
 the F-word in the CS video and I guess that's not a problem for
 us anymore. Don't worry about that. So we actually have some
 news about Joanna Stern, which is why she's here. It's pretty
 hard to say. I got to tell you, I'm getting a little choked up.
 Just kidding. I don't cry.
 I brought tissues.
 Did you?
 Yeah.
 Crying towels.
 Crying towels.
 Crying towels.
 So Joanna is actually-
 Is that actually just a napkin?
 Can I finish?
 I really can't get you out of it.
 Yeah.
 Joanna is actually leaving the verge. She is- yeah, I know,
 right? That's insane. Who would do that? She's- thanks for this.
 This is like a napkin.
 Yeah, it's a napkin.
 A high quality tissue. No, she's actually- Joanna is going to ABC
 News and she's going to be doing their technology stuff online.
 She's going to be doing some video and it's a big deal for
 her. A little bit of a career change.
 Definitely a career change.
 Yeah. And you know, we're-
 Not with Jimmy Fallon, but-
 You know, Joanna- I just want to say, Joanna started working
 with us when we were at Engadget and came to the verge and
 helped us build the site into what it is now and actually like
 set the stage for a bunch of stuff that we're going to do
 later, which is really awesome. She has like- her reviews plan
 was very exciting.
 I'm going to go tell everyone about it.
 And it's a little sad because you got a really cool offer and
 you decided to go for it and we're very happy for it. We're
 very supportive. And we actually put together a little video,
 kind of a send off video for you. And I'd like everybody to
 take a look at this.
 We don't have to show it.
 For Joanna Stern. Yeah, we definitely have to show it.
 Oh, we're going to show it.
 I haven't seen it, so.
 Oh my God.
 What's happening right now?
 Hey, this is Joanna for the verge and this is the Nook tablet.
 The Seuss's E-pad Transformer Prime.
 The Sony Vio Z.
 The HTC Flyer and its pen.
 The Folio 13.
 The Kindle Fire.
 The Kobo Vox.
 The Idea Center A720.
 I would definitely suggest Apple's MacBook Air, even if it
 is $400 more. For $400 more, you can get the MacBook Air.
 For $300 more, you can always get the MacBook Air.
 If you can live with that, the ZenBook is actually a really
 good laptop, but if you can, the Air is still the best choice.
 Rock and roll.
 Joanna has a sexual crush on Justin Bieber.
 Yeah.
 It's not so much sexual.
 It's highly sexual.
 Okay.
 What do I ask Justin Bieber?
 Does he love me?
 I think I asked him if he loves me.
 You do love me, right?
 I love you.
 Okay.
 Really nice to meet you.
 Thank you.
 Yeah.
 Good try to start.
 Are you crying?
 Yeah.
 Aw.
 We're going to...
 Listen.
 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
 Okay.
 Just hold on.
 Oh, wow.
 You got me an old...
 This style is directly to ABC News.
 Oh, yeah?
 Yeah.
 I'm going to make you one final offer.
 There better be a lack of care in there.
 Will you stay at the verge?
 This one's good.
 Call ABC right now.
 It's all real.
 Call ABC right now.
 Just pick it up, dial it, and tell them you've made a horrible mistake, and all this will be yours, all of this real money.
 Are you prepared to do it?
 Do I have a show with the Monopoly man with that money?
 Maybe.
 Is that what you want?
 You know what, I'd actually prefer you didn't, because I need this for my kill a cab.
 So...
 Are you picking it up?
 Hold on a second.
 No, but no, seriously, Joanna, get off of this.
 This isn't even plugged in.
 Oh, there's no...
 There's no plug.
 No, no, no, there's a dial tone.
 You know how much this phone costs?
 You had your chance.
 We used the bulk of your remaining salary on that phone.
 You had your chance.
 No, but seriously, we love you, and we're going to miss you, and we're very excited about what you're doing.
 I really...
 And I just want to say, it's been great working with you, and I'm sure that our paths will cross again.
 And hopefully our paths will cross again.
 Yeah, why are you reusing my line?
 No, but that's what I wanted to say.
 Now, what are these bags for?
 So, I...
 These Transformers bags.
 I don't have a bucket of money, but I wanted to get all of you guys presents so you remember me, like Sarah McLachlan said.
 Well, we'll always have your Mack McGar recommended.
 We're killing this together.
 So each person gets a very personalized present.
 Oh, boy.
 And so I want to do these each.
 Nielise, you need the crying towel?
 I do.
 This one first is for Josh.
 Should I open this now?
 Yeah, yeah.
 By the way, I hate surprises.
 So I wanted to tell you that good things always...
 Oh, no, that's not what you're supposed to open first.
 Oh, I didn't see that.
 Keep going.
 My vision is blurred by...
 What do you want me to get out of here first?
 You'll get it first.
 The number of items.
 There, that's right there.
 That one right there.
 Oh, my God, it's a Zune.
 It's a...
 How many...
 It's an original.
 Oh, my God, it's the original Zune.
 The original white Zune.
 It's like...
 Is this new?
 Did you buy this on eBay?
 What's going on here?
 It doesn't matter where I got it.
 Steve Ballmer may have sent it to me.
 But so, you know, all the...
 My Zune sync cable?
 All good things must come to an end.
 Oh, this makes so much sense now.
 The Zune comes to an end.
 And, you know, we have to come to an end right now.
 I think they're still selling the Zune in, like, Canada.
 That's another present.
 What is this?
 The Zune is the main present.
 No, no, no, no.
 That's a special flask.
 Oh, my God.
 Oh, my God.
 It's a cell phone flask.
 And it says...
 I was trying to present that one here.
 Can you see this?
 It says, this is my next phone on it.
 It actually says, this is my next flask.
 Oh, flask.
 It's a PH.
 And it's true.
 My next flask is...
 So you're more excited about the $18 flask than you are about the white Zune.
 This is way more valuable than this.
 Which I had to go to Redmond's.
 Can I just say this?
 You went to Redmond for this?
 Joanna was walking around backstage, very mysteriously before the show going,
 does anybody have a PC?
 I need to sync something.
 Shh, don't tell anyone.
 I always use Windows 7.
 Oh, my God, it's working.
 Hold on, wait a second.
 Yeah, it works.
 There's a special song on there.
 It's like three years old.
 You ruined my...
 So there's a special song on there.
 How did I ruin it?
 It's your job to show me what you gave me, okay?
 Yeah, I forgot.
 Make a call.
 This is not a touch screen, right?
 It is not.
 Yes, it is.
 It just crashed.
 No, I'm kidding.
 Is there a playlist on here?
 No, just one really important song for you.
 Oh, come on, man.
 Is it a play?
 It's Justin Bieber.
 This doesn't have speakers there.
 Are we getting that?
 Can we see that?
 And you can actually, you know how you used to like the song?
 You can just put a little heart on it.
 There we go.
 Can I do more than one heart?
 I really hope you're getting this on camera.
 I don't know if they are.
 Right there.
 Believe me, this is amazing what's happening down here.
 Broken heart right there.
 Oh.
 Well, that's really great.
 Thanks a lot.
 Way to make this not sting.
 So moving on, Eli, this is for you.
 And I have to listen to Justin Bieber.
 Gina, this is amazing.
 What is this?
 These are fake beats?
 Oh, yeah.
 So this is the best part about this.
 I got this on eBay.
 And it came with these fake beats headphones.
 I'm surprised.
 I don't know how this happened.
 There's a lot to be desired, doesn't it?
 But there's fake beats on the...
 That's amazing.
 This is insane.
 Where's my flash?
 And you know, Paul, you can do yours at the same time.
 You get this special bag.
 Paul's bag is cool.
 I got a Paulson bag.
 Wow.
 I don't want this to die.
 Oh, by the way, I don't know if you guys caught this, but this has a belt clip.
 Yeah.
 Oh, my God.
 I'm just going to get that on there right now.
 Oh, yeah.
 There's one thing there.
 Oh, I'm getting a call.
 Hold on.
 It's booze.
 I was going to actually fill it up.
 Hello?
 I was actually going to fill it up.
 Last night?
 No, I don't remember anything.
 Ah.
 We had to...
 Let me holster this.
 Stern got me a rock and roll bracelet.
 Oh, my God.
 This is awesome.
 Wow.
 Personalized.
 Whoa.
 Screw that bracelet.
 Sorry, sorry, guys.
 Is it fit?
 Sorry, George and John.
 I worked very hard to get your measurements.
 It fits.
 How do you work hard to get measurements?
 Your fiance.
 He does have an unnaturally thick wrist.
 That's why she's been mysteriously measuring my wrist this whole time.
 Oh, my God.
 You wake up and Joanna's there with a tape measure.
 We've had many conversations that go secretly measure his wrists.
 She's like, why don't I just measure his other cuffs?
 It's amazing.
 Oh, my God.
 She's very smart.
 Joanna, that's amazing.
 I can't wait to sync it with my PC.
 Paul has a robot.
 Beautiful mechanical robot.
 Is that a famous robot?
 Yeah.
 Isn't that the...
 It's this famous brand apparently.
 We should know.
 Come on.
 We're a tech site.
 No, I don't know.
 Planet robot.
 Planet robot.
 I don't know that robot.
 This is amazing.
 I'm kind of upset the one I ordered was actually a female robot.
 All right, all right.
 Look, this is all really touching and everything and I'm very moved.
 This is amazing.
 I'm moved.
 I'm extremely moved.
 Are you listening to the music on your Zune or no?
 No, but I am wearing my holster.
 Okay, good.
 I want to know about that.
 But look, enough of the sadness, enough of the crying.
 Joanna, seriously, we wish you the best.
 Give Joanna a round of applause.
 This is amazing.
 Thank you, guys.
 And we always have a special place in my heart for you.
 The place where people go who I hate.
 But seriously, enough of the sadness and depression.
 Let's hear some music.
 Let's turn this into a dance party.
 I'm not going to dance.
 Our musical guest tonight.
 We already did turn it into a dance party.
 Can you just be quiet?
 I'm trying to say something.
 No rules, man.
 Our musical guest.
 It looks so good.
 It does.
 I'm really into this.
 Whenever you guys are ready.
 Yeah, sorry.
 We don't have a show.
 No, no, no.
 You're ready?
 The decider.
 Did you just decide?
 It's a half-past rock and roll.
 Our musical guests are really amazing.
 I don't want to over-hype them.
 But they sound like Genesis.
 The Sega Genesis.
 And I think you'll enjoy them.
 Ladies and gentlemen, George and Jonathan.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Show me the finger waggle.
 Oh, my God.
 That was amazing.
 That was amazing.
 George and Jonathan.
 And I don't think I overstated how amazing they are.
 So that is pretty much our show.
 I want to thank you guys so much for coming out.
 Get up here.
 Get over here.
 Come on over.
 Don't worry.
 You're not done.
 You're not nearly done.
 I want to thank Jamie for coming out.
 That was amazing of him.
 I want to thank Joanna Stern.
 Thank you, guys.
 Neelay Patel.
 Thank you all.
 Paul Bellerin.
 Of course, George and Jonathan.
 If everybody here sticks around, we're going to do some giveaways after we're done.
 But George and Jonathan are going to play one more.
 And I also want to thank Sony, again, for sponsoring this.
 This holster feels really weird.
 You should just make a call.
 Seriously, thank you guys so much.
 That's our show.
 Once again, George and Jonathan.
 Thanks.
 Bye.