Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by AliceHouse, May 27, 2013.
When? When was it stolen?
the dates were given earlier in the thread
please keep up
I wanna date.
You continue to avoid the question (to which there is a valid answer to.)
The dates you give do not answer the question.
When did these two civilizations ever encounter each other to make the connection of stories for one to be stolen from the other?
earlier in the thread
you avoid reading what i write
when did the writing begin with the OT?
when was the EOG written?
where is it said Abraham was located?
answers are already posted
less emotion - more assertiveness
None of that answers my question. Allow me to reiterate.
In order for one people to steal something from another group of people, some sort of connection must be made. At what point was the connection made between these two civilizations occur?
I'm not asking when one story was written. I'm not asking when the other story was written. I'm not asking for the location of Abraham.
I'm asking when did these two people contact each other.
The answer is already posted
if the Patriarch of Genesis and the whole bible for that matter comes from the Land of Ur which was once Ancient Sumer (uruk or iraq)
then the later Semites were schooled of tales of the Sumerian Legends/myths/writings
Ur is where Abraham from
this is Chaldeans - the etymology of Chaldean means Moon Worshiper
because Ancient Sumerians worshiped the moon
more schooling available
Do you have anything to back up those claims?
In early Babylonia the moon-cult was the national religion: the name Chaldeans means 'moon-worshippers'. As the religion was gradually wiped out elsewhere, the Sabian people maintained and developed the tradition of Chaldean astrology.
Sabian Symbols - Sabian Symbols Story
The oldest king of Ur known to us is Ur-Ba'u (servant of the goddess Ba'u), as Hommel reads the name, or Ur-Gur, as others read it. He lived some twenty-eight hundred years B.C., and took part in building the famous temple of the moon-god Sin in Ur itself. The illustration here given represents his cuneiform inscription, written in the Sumerian language, and stamped upon every brick of the temple in Ur. It reads: "Ur-Ba'u, king of Ur, who built the temple of the moon-god."
Abraham is from Ur of Chaldea and later moved to Haran (another Sumerian/Canaanite place)
contact me again if more schooling is needed
Annnd once again we find ourselfs right back to babylon
as the origin of the gobbly gook.
more importantly... what color hat was he wearing when he learned it?
My point was, the entity known as Ass Napkin Ned had no point. As I previously stated, he fell into a causality fallacy and jumping to conclusions.
Of course nobody can say anything for certain about history when it comes to things like these. But one thing preceding another does not in of itself mean anything. It's an observation, that's all.
My goal was to guide him into formulating an appropriate thesis to support his claim. It would have first involved him pointing out at what point in time these two cultures ever came into contact.
It did, indeed, happen. But the entity known as Ass Napkin Ned chose to ignore this.
Science is a tricky thing. Anthropology is a tricky thing. In the end, one can't actually be certain. Written words only take us so far. The Hebrews were, and still are, very, very big on oral tradition. One might not be able to make a hypothesis from this, but one can consider the possibility that the Sumarian tablets were taken from the Hebrew oral traditions... rather than vice versa.
But I digress. My point is observations are great. But to make a claim, one needs supporting evidence. It is clear the entity known as Ass Napkin Ned is more interested in postulating the pustules of his posterier, than in reality.
Again - we do know for sure that the Bible in particular the Old Testement is plagerized directly from Ancient Sumer - a much older civilization and from the 'Oldest Sacred Text' ever found on Earth (FACT)
This i have proven with showing where 'The Myth of Abraham' and his family were from (with sources)
Alice's schooling has been fun, yet she gets direct answers to all questions with 'Sources' which is sufficient 'Evidence' and she doesnt accept them
Notice Alice cannot challenge the 'Information' which is known as 'Presentable Evidence'
where are her sources?
why challenge what i think personally?
why not challenge the 'Factual Information' or the Research - that i am presenting?
is it possible when she is limited in knowledge and mentally backed in a corner - She needs personal attacks, Notice, we then hear the mental frustrations from Alice the 'Well, Your too White and your skin is too Pale to understand'
why not use that energy for research and challenge the information
instead of me personally?
and again - where are her sources that dispute what i am saying?
i have shown mine
so in conclusion,
its another clear win
This is how you shut a debate down like a boss
thanks for watching everyone
Abraham and his family were from Ur of Chaldea right?
This is why you're an idiot.
The Sumerian Tablets are not the Oldest Texts on Earth?
do you need proof?
you cant be that stupid
well maybe you can be
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Separate names with a comma.