Skip to comments.Live Thread: 12:15 Eastern, Man-Child Occupier to "accomodate" Freedom of Religion announcement
Posted on 02/10/2012 9:03:40 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Available on all news networks. The Lie Festival begins to about 25 minutes, if the teleprompter is working correctly
I heard the word around the beltway that this was all Axelrods doing. If so it sure blew up in his face.
Hold firm Mohammad Obunga, please!!!
“I heard the word around the beltway that this was all Axelrods doing. If so it sure blew up in his face.”
I now wonder if this is why Daley resigned. He was outspokenly against this move. BTW: I heard that Jarrett was the one that pushed it. Such infighting might explain these events.
Good to see the tip of the iceberg exposed, but in point of fact, OBAMACARE is unAmerican/unConstitutional, AND the Obama regime certainly takes great pride in the many ways it has found to circumvent the Constitution, our God-given rights, and the Law of the Land.
Many of us citizens woke up without the need of an alarm clock. Now the alarm clock is screaming- Wake-up America. Dont push snooze if Obama “appears” to cave on the contraception/abortifacient mandate. Fool me once...; fool me twice...fool most of the people all of the time?
Wake Up America!
POTUS Barack “The Dictator” Hussein “ Muslim Brotherhood Lover” Obama follows in the footsteps of 1930s Germany!!! Edicts, regulations, contols, statism, absolute federal rule, no Freedom, no Liberty, no choice, no opportunity, no equality!!!! That’s Obama and his “destroy America” ilk!!!
How’s them gasoline prices doing for you folks!!!! My forecast if Obama wins re-election. The “Night of the Long Knives” is not far behind. Obama and his wife, Michelle are capable of using “any” means to wipe out the Republic and create a dictatorship. As far as religion goes Obama and his wife have no religion. They believe they are Gods, and...we the people are their plaything peons!!! Wake up, America. You are asleep at the wheel!!!
Please read posts I made from #52 on here:
This is ‘hudna.’ He is feinting to the right in order to give himself time to regroup and attack later.
If anyone who can has the stomach to watch or listen, please report. Thank you in advance for your sacrifice.
Obama has the blessing of the Catholic health association.
“99% have tried contraceptives?” Where did he get this statistic? Just made it up?
Instead, the new approach puts the burden on insurance companies, ordering them to provide workers at religious-affiliated institutions with free family planning if they request it, without involving their employer at all, the White House said.
HOW is this any better? So he is going to force insurance plans, purchased by Catholic-affiliated organizations, to provide for day after pills etc. HOW is this better?
The employer does not have to pay for this, but the insurance company has to provide it free of charge? Seems like the same thing to me!
Hopefully this will informed the Supreme Court justices showing to them how far reaching this fiasco healthcare bill really is, and they will strike it down!
I is the same thing. Obama, the economic moron, understand the concept of costs being passed on. Several times in his little speech he used the term “free” to refer to contraceptives and other services. Nothing is free, Bambi.
Rush is mentioning the “Hawaii Rules”
This is a cost-sharing emphasis, and as such, is Shar’ia compliant ‘takaful.’
“Definition of ‘Takaful’
A type of Islamic insurance, where members contribute money into a pooling system in order to guarantee each other against loss or damage. Takaful-branded insurance is based on Sharia, Islamic religious law, and explains how it is the responsibility of individuals to cooperate and protect each other.
Investopedia explains ‘Takaful’
Takaful insurance companies were introduced as an alternative to commercial insurance companies, which go against the riba (interest), al-maisir (gambling), and al-gharar (uncertainty) principles, that are outlawed in Sharia.”
Takaful Insurance Resources
“What benefits you benefits Us”
Note: An entire section is dedicated to obesity.
Bottom line is we still will be paying for contraceptives etc.
It's disgusting to hear obama say woman shouldn't have to give up food or groceries to buy contraceptives....that's just more lies.....as said any woman can go to clinics for contraceptives. So he's still dictating to Insurance companies what they have to provide “freee-eee” for “preventive services”. No way will it be free, all Premiums will go up beyond what most can afford...It's still a redistribution of dollars out of those who pay premiums so those without have “free” care costs.
You have nailed his strategy.
2,700 pages to 0bamacare that was passed within hours so we could begin to find out what it all means.
The Catholic Bishops have begged the state religion of the United States, The Church of Socialism, for the privilege of continuing with their core beliefs.
0bama makes one strategic, temporary retreat, but there are 2,699 pages remaining that can be used at anytime to control the serfs.
Sounds like a lob back into the Bishops’ court.
Standing by to see what kind of return volley they come up with. Anything less than “Nuts” is a Catholic cave-in.
Exactly, and now Obama has sent Kathleen the Health Czar to be on Fox News and defend this fake accomodation.
Whatever happened to “if you like your plan you can keep it”?
Anyone have an online link to the announcement?
“Standing by to see what kind of return volley they come up with. Anything less than Nuts is a Catholic cave-in.”
My money is on the cave-in.
And officials said Obama has the legal authority to order insurance companies to provide free contraception coverage directly to workers. He will demand it in a new rule.
The emperor has spoken.
The bottom line is that the Catholic Hospital’s coverage still includes contraception, and it appears that they are simply hiding the costs.
They are playing with words.
They have given the Catholic Church a “semantic” way out and not an actual end of the violation of the first amendment.
I think their argument is that it will be cheaper for the insurance company to provide the contraception vs. birth and complication costs. (not MY argument)
WOW, can anything be crazier than a governmenmt that just orders private industry to give out something free, to a select group, to accomodate the president politically?
The WHOLE problem with this is the government telling everyone what must be in their policies. I would love a policy in which I can pass on all kinds of stuff to get a lower premium.
Health insurance was meant for cancer, heart attacks, etc. Oy.
Time to get Mittens’ opinion on this. He must speak out about it. The electorate wants to know. How does Romneycare deal with this?
This “compromise” is unacceptable.
the attack on values the directly conflict with the democrat party is not new. They see organizations like churches as a direct threat to their authority on all things, from your body to your spirit. The Holy Catholic Church is just the first salvo. There will be more of this to look forward to if we decide that “Santorum is too inexperienced”, “Newt is too flawed” and “Mitt is too liberal” to go out and vote in November.
The price of sitting this one out is too high.
The most evil argument of the libs is that female contraception protects female “health”.
When in fact unprotected female sex (no male condom) is a huge STD risk, STD’s are related to cancers, etc. AND the pill is known to endanger women with cancer, strokes, etc.
They care nothing for womens’ health. It’s just part of their “vision” that every woman be free to screw like a slut without family so as to destroy society.
Meanwhile, any action to prevent women from piling up government benefits by deliberately having multiple unwed pregnancies?
The liberals are very very sick people.
Wonder if anyone in the White Hut happened to contemplate 1) self-insured groups or 2) fees paid by religious institutions to insurance companies will now pay for the extra work the insurance companies must do w/ respect to abortions and birth control.
Surely they have the spin ready for these objections, too.
I would have expected the bamster to have walked this all the way back, only to restore it late in the afternoon of 21st of Jan 2013. You know, right after they drag their hung-over a$$es out of bed from the all night re-immaculation parties.
They need to get the “social justice” loving priests and bishops back on their side. If this does it then we know that this whole kerfluffle was only a show, and not based on any true religious beliefs or standards.
What about cases where a company - or catholic org uses self insurance? Self insurance is a viable way that companies insure their employees.
A better analogy is "If you hire a hitman to kill someone, are you absolved of the murder?".
Once again the whole problem is Barack Obama or his liberal clones, deciding what every policy in America must have and what everyone must buy.
Zero competition. Zero common sense. And mark my words when they decide birth control wrappers harm the environment or whatever the heck is next, they will ban coverage for this,
Or more likely they will ban the “too expensive” life saving procedures that are “denying poor women contraceptives”.
It implies that the Catholic objection is about money and that Catholics can be bought off.
Its like that old joke that ends, Weve established what you are, were just talking price now.
——Sounds like a lob back into the Bishops court.
Standing by to see what kind of return volley they come up with. Anything less than Nuts is a Catholic cave-in.-—
Yes. I’m very nervous.
With each volley, bishops will peel off, until some half-way measure is left. And the dialectical synthesis moves forward.
God help us!
Yep, somehow that “...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...” always gets tossed by the wayside.
That is true.
The other thing that is extremely unnerving about this is that the government is essentially setting up a government-funded, involuntary population control plan. They will run it through Planned Parenthood, and not directly (at least at the beginning), but essentially we are seeing the start of a government administered population control plan that everyone must participate in through mandatory “insurance.”
This week two threads here on FR are prime examples of your statement:
The British NHS
Girls as young as 13 have been fitted with contraceptive implants at school without their parents knowing.
But not the money for a 72 year old woman who may die within minutes.
'This is a death sentence': Pensioner with aneurysm that could kill her any minute told NHS won't fund £15,000 surgery
This is shared cooperative insurance, or ‘takaful.’
I hope someone is reading up on this. Taking the argument away from faith and putting it into insurance companies’ hands emphasizes the Shari’a compliant, financial nature of 0bama Deathcare.
This isn’t about faith or Catholocism or ‘Women’s rights’ (abortion is almost always prohibited in Islam). This is about pushing Americans into Shari’a compliance period. Submit! AKA Islam
US Constitution be dam#ed...right? Wait a minite; didn’t Jeremiah Wright say something like that?
No. It’s a principle/concept in islam, due to having insurance per se as being prohibited. Shared, cooperative insurance (sound familiar?) to minimize risk.
Also see prohibitions for most abortions, all vasectomies, almost all hysterectomies and birth control.