And you have to ask this, you know, this very subtle question, a very all-important question, where do you sort of shift from the wisdom of crowds to the madness of crowds? Where do these things shift, becoming, you know, a mob, or a racket, or simply something that’s, you know, a totalitarian lie. … I always think that, you know, when you have to call things science, you know they aren’t, like climate science or political science. We don’t use physical science or chemical science because, you know, you don’t need to push it quite that hard And, this sort of, you know, extreme dogmatism, you know, has of course, it’s not even been one of a very stable variety like maybe, you know, the Catholic Church and its anti-Aristotelian notions, or its Aristotelian notions on Earth, you know it didn’t shift itself every month or every year on this. And we’ve had a dogmatic, maybe an atheist church in science, a dogmatic church that has nevertheless had crazed hairpin turns in the last year. Just on the COVID thing, they’re too many to enumerate, but just, you know, the very basic ones are, you know, masks first ineffective, then required. You know, vaccines, one year ago, Kamala Harris was campaigning that, you know, she would never take a Trump vaccine. Now they’re mandatory And of course, of course there’s the strange history of the lab leak where it was first racist and taboo, now it’s probably correct even though I’m not totally certain I’m allowed to discuss that yet, but it’s sort of, it’s probably sort of allowed to discuss this. And this sort of dogmatism, these hairpin turns, this sort of epistemic closure, is I think one of the ways that things have just gotten deranged over and over and over again … The problem, whether it’s Fed, Afghanistan, COVID, is that we’ve, we have this sort of, these machines for generating consensus, uniformity, you know, and not asking dissident questions even though they’re super urgent and as far as I can tell, the hour is late for all of these institutions, and it’s more urgent than ever that we find a way to have some of these dissident voices get heard in all these different contexts.