Great value

I've had these since 08-now 13. What can I say, I'm wearing them now and they're still warm. I've got one hole in the crotch, but have held up well. In their prime, I wore them everyday in -60 in the arctic north with minimal clothing on. I didn't get frostbite, except on my little toe, but I still have it, so no losses. I wouldn't bet on these now, but they're good for everyday wear. They're not hip or cool like some other brands, but believe me, these do the job and better than the more popular name brands.