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 This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "As far as I understand, you are suffering from being in advance of your times; you may be fortunate that you haven't been crucified. You can rely on the fact, however, that you've been investing in the future of the profession, and that should become clearer and clearer every year."Lynn H.Nelson to Donald J.Mabry about early digital history networks online developments in US and EU Universities, the 2nd of September 1991 (Full text of the email published below).LynnH. Nelson and Donald J.Mabry's participation to the birth of Digital History on the Web Donal J. MabryMy post written in September 2012 to remembering Lynn H. Nelson offered the occasion to meet one of the earlier correspondent of Lynn, Donald J. Mabry, now Emeritus Professor at the Mississippi State University. Don was the creator of the first  history FTP (File Transfer Protocol) internet site in 1990 which became later, using the World Wide Web, the Historical Text Archive and is still active today (1990-2013) !  Don was often mentioned by Lynn in his correspondence, especially when Lynn was telling about the early days of their contacts through the History@FINHUTC mailing list and FTPnetwork. Don Mabry wrote an essay in 1991 for Perspectives, the newsmagazine of the AHA (American Historical Association) about this mailing list created by historians for historians since August 1990: Electronic Mail and Historians, 1991, by Donald J. Mabry. Today, the Roy Rosenzweig Center for History and New Media at George Mason has re-published Don Mabry's history of the Historical text Archive (HTA) where Lynn is mentioned as the mentor of the international network which supported Mabry's creation of a history oriented FTP site for exchanging bigger files like historiographical essays. I am now quoting Don Mabry's essay on the early history web:Lynn H.Nelson"I officially created an FTP site (RA) in February, 1991. I was able to get some help. I also tried to get others to do the same thing because I realized that one site could not store everything. Lynn Nelson (pictured) volunteered, and was up and running by August, 1991. We began to divide the load. And we were off and running. RA grew by leaps and bounds as I found new things to store there. Some were sent to me by others. Christopher Currie of the Victoria County History project of the University of London sent me an article on  medieval carpentry [...] and Art Ferrill sent me several articles on ancient military history, for example. I had to subdivide into directories. By September 1, 1991, the filelist on RA had grown considerably. The effort to create other sites began in 1991 but accelerated after Thomas Zielke's important paper on "History at Your Fingertips" and my own paper on anonymous FTP sites, both delivered at the Mid-America Conference in September, 1992 (Thomas was in Germany and I was in Mississippi. We chatted in the background while awaiting our turns), things progressed rapidly. One remembers Valentine Smith and his Soviet archives in Kansas City, Mike McCarthy and his Byrd site at Marshall University, George Welling [...] with Gheta at Groningen in Holland, and others that Lynn mentions below. I spent a lot of time trying to get people to create FTP and/or gopher sites (I discovered gopher sites in 1991 and the WWW in Jerusalem in early 1992."In the same article, Don Mabry extensively quotes a LynnH.Nelson's letter about the early history of the history web which completes my former post. Lynn involved international correspondents with Don's early FTP sites and history file exchange system between sites.A European Digital Historian's pioneer like George Welling -quoted by Mabry in this article- became part of the network in 1993. He added his own site GHETA (Groningen Historical Electronic Text Archivein the Netherlands). (Welling wrote the history of the AHC (Association for History and Computing) from a Dutch perspective (L'associazione per la storia ed il calcolo (AHC) su internet: una prospettiva olandese fora special issue dedicated to internet and history in the Italian Journal Memoria e Ricerca that I edited in 1998)."We have now opended our FTP-site at the Arts Faculty of the University of Groningen. We call it GHETA (Groningen Historical Electronic Text Archive). It is especially meant for all sorts of historians" wrote Welling in 1993.GHETA was also about about the early days of digital history first electronic full-text libraries in Europe, when the web was starting to change our lives. Welling was the Dutch partner of Mabry and Nelson.Don Mabry with whom I had an email exchange about Lynn and the early history web,commented my former post dedicated to Lynn H.Nelson. I am re-publishing here his comments as an introduction to a Lynn H. Nelson e-mail received in 1991 by Mabry.  I think this is an interesting complement to other Lynn's letters and writings for who is interested in the history of Digital History. (Published thanks to the courtesy of  Donald J. Mabry)"Lynn and I came to know each other through History@FINHUTC after he had read my article in Perspectives; what a wonderful experience that was because Lynn was bright, ingenious, and amiable. I created the first FTP site for historians but Lynn did more by creating one of his own andthen encouraging others to do the same; in other words, he had the vision of a network. My site  eventually became the Historical Text Archive (historicaltextarchive.com), his became several sites. We and others had fun being pioneers even when some of us encountered resistance from those who did not understand and fought us. Lynn was a very kind person. He made such a positive difference in so many lives. We only met once when I was visiting the University of Kansas where my younger son was a student but we carried on a lively friendship for years via electronic means. He encouraged me throughout my career, even when I became an associate dean and had to reduce my efforts to further electronic means of doing history. What a man he was!Don Mabry, Editor, Historical Text ArchiveProfessor Emeritus of History, Mississippi State University"Creation of a history network of digital historians before the web: "Stuff and Chatter", an email from Lynn H. Nelson (Kansas University) to Donald J. Mabry (Mississippi State University), the 2nd of September 1991From @CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LHNELSON@UKANVM.BITNET Mon Sep  2 14:20:37 1991Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU by Ra.MsState.Edu (4.1/6.5m-FWP);id AA24451; Mon, 2 Sep 91 14:20:35 CDTReceived: from UKANVM.BITNET by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id0577; Mon, 02 Sep 91 15:20:39 EDTReceived: from UKANVM (LHNELSON) by UKANVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6351; Mon, 02 Sep 91 14:20:51 CSTDate:    Mon, 02 Sep 91 12:10:35 CSTFrom: "Lynn H. Nelson" Subject:  Stuff and Chatter.To: djm1 Hello, Don;The problem is, of course, to convince the computer illiterate that workingon and with telecommunications is something more than a hobby. Since they arethemselves afraid to admit their own ignorance of anything more than a wordprocessing program, they cannot admit that more sophisticated use has anythingreal to do with scholarship or teaching.  My own strategy has been to give themthings. My chairman had off-handedly given me permission to do whatever Iwanted with technology. He became a convert the day after I told him that I hadgotten a terminal connected in the room next to him and that he had beenreceiving the daily China News Digest for the past two days. I have had tocourt, or, perhaps better, seduce other faculty with the promise of personaltutorials behind locked doors. Now I have gotten their students on line andcan offer to help the faculty to use the system as an aid in directing theirstudents.How well I am succeeding will be reflected in the assessment of the SalaryBoard. If I canget the Salary Board to make a positive statement about tele-communications, we can use that as an example perhaps to sway other departments. We really won't get very farunless those people who undertake to learnenough to direct telecommunications development for their departments arerecognized and rewarded. As far as I understand, you are suffering from beingin advance of your times; you may be fortunate that you haven't been crucified.You can rely on the fact, however, that you've been investing in the future ofthe profession, and that that should become clearer and clearer every year.I would be happy to try to establish some principles of integration, providedyou retain final say.1. The main instrument of integration should be a single catalogue listing thetexts in ra and malin. Each entry should be separated from those preceding andfollowing by a double hard return. Each should provide a site denominater andaccess number, such as r42, followed by a note as to whether the file iscompressed. It should list the transmission and uncompressed size of the file,the author and title of the piece. When possible, these data should be followedby a short description of the piece containing as many precise terms as possible.An entry might look like this: m14 zip 10/24K lynn h. nelson lhnelson@ukanvmuses the sources of the "chronicle of san juan de la penya" (1372) to listaragonese and navarrese historicalworks 1103-1200, particularly pedro jimenez de rada, la carta pergamea, and minstrel songs and poems. concludes that native historiography was primarily oral.Such entries are expandable, can be searched by PC word processor features, andcould be adapted to a more sophisticated search program if the catalogue grewlarge enough. If successful enough, one might secure a grant for some graduatestudent aid in adding abstracts to those items lacking such descriptions.It is unlikely that a union catalogue will ever get ahead of the RAM capacityof PCs, which is growing constantly. It could easily get beyond the 300K dailytransmission limit, but, by listing in accession order, the catalogue couldbe compiled in 300K sections, and everyone would know that the last cataloguecontained all the new material.2. All text materials should be ZIPped, and both sites should keep unZIP programs and full explanations available.Many of the minority of historians presently using telecommunications areunfamiliar with handling compressed files, but their ignorance is of no benefitto them and the use of compressed files would be a great advantage to thegrowth of an FTP network dedicated to the archiving of historical materials.It would allow more rapid transfer of data, the use of larger bundles, and --most important -- would be an important consideration in conserving storagestorage space.3. It would seem most productive to build text collections in accorrdance withIBM standards. I should think that it would be possible to establish a medialsite where MAC users could unZIP their data and from which they could downloadin their normal fashion. In any event, the great majority of users will haveaccess to PCs for sometime in the future, and the trand for the next few yearswill by to produce porgrams to enhance compatability and increase the access ofMACs to PC data.4. Once our format is established, we should make it our business to encourageothers to establish sites to join the network. Part of this encouragement willderive from example, but it would be a great help if we were to have a step-by-step guide from approaching your institutional computer folk to setting up directories and access. It would help us a great deal if we could have a couple  of more members as soon as possible, so we both might think of some enthusiastic people.5. The last immediate question is what our relationship to Thomas Zielke andHISTORY should be. Such a venture as we propose needs a base of support, preferrably one in which library and computer personnel are well represented. HISTORYmeets that need as well or better than other lists, and a FTP network might enhance its stature and membership. Since you will be at the head of this enterprise, however, you will need to work closely with Thomas, most particularlysince Thomas might be able to arrange for a couple of European sites to joinus. I should imagine that you would be able to define your relative spheres ofjurisdiction quite easily.This thing has already gone on far too long. I'll leave it here for you toconsider during what leisure you have. I will turn my thoughts to how tourn my thought to those people from whom we will want to collect materials.Enjoy the rest of the weekend!Lynn