[speaker002:] all right well we're supposed to talk about cars
[speaker001:] right the car that uh probably the kind we'll get next and I uh I do a lot of driving commute uh I have about uh fifty three miles one way to commute here in Utah but it's uh freeway and it's not bad but uh the cars I've been getting I've got a Toyota
[speaker002:] gosh
[speaker001:] it's economical now I've got a Honda now and um and it's a five speed
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and and for the all the driving I do that uh is the kind I I think I'd probably look at next I'm not sure
[speaker002:] uh-huh well I'll probably look for a family family type vehicle like a van mini van or something because
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I've got two I just uh I've got two young ones so we're we're looking for something that's more family oriented yeah something bigger that we can carry
[speaker001:] I see a little bit bigger yeah our family's gone we had six children at one time but they've uh they're all gone and so we we can go to the smaller car now but we did have to have back then it was station wagons
[speaker002:] six yeah right
[speaker001:] as for a family uh when you start taking much with you or going any place you really need a little more room
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I have a son in Plano Texas who has uh four boys and he got a a van and he really enjoys it
[speaker002:] hum that's that's right near me
[speaker001:] is it
[speaker002:] yeah Plano's a few miles north
[speaker001:] oh okay well he uh I know I've had several from Richardson
[speaker002:] who who does he work for
[speaker001:] he works for JC Penney's
[speaker002:] oh really corporate office
[speaker001:] uh-huh yes uh-huh
[speaker002:] huh uh I've got a I'm taking a class and uh one of the guys that's in my uh my group that
[speaker001:] yeah he
[speaker002:] we're doing a group presentation he works for JC Penney
[speaker001:] um-hum well good yeah he uh he's been down there going on three three years now I guess uh-huh
[speaker002:] three years they're moving their offices to to Plano right right now
[speaker001:] yes uh-huh they closed at Pittsburgh I think and uh they're moving but it's uh so in fact I was just down there Thursday I was in El Paso and then I had a layover couple hours uh at at Dallas airport
[speaker002:] well that's good
[speaker001:] airport and they come out and got to visit with them for a while I got I got a new little brand grandbaby and first time I've seen him
[speaker002:] but uh well that's great
[speaker001:] I don't know I looking at cars you you they say buy American but I boy of all the people I've talked to that uh seems like they get a lot better mileage I had a hundred and eighty thousand on the Toyota that I had in eighty and that thing I hadn't had any problems at all it was just going strong when I sold it
[speaker002:] yeah huh
[speaker001:] but uh I guess it's just it depends there's lemons in all of them I guess but uh
[speaker002:] that's super yeah well American cars are hopefully they'll I think the unions really screwed American cars up they uh
[speaker001:] I do too yeah
[speaker002:] you know the the price of the cars are just more than incomes are because people are you know the people that work at car manufacturers make well the GM plant or
[speaker001:] um-hum right yeah
[speaker002:] or yeah the GM plant that they have down here that they're thinking about closing uh the average worker there makes twenty two dollars an hour and that's you know that's more than a lot of people make salary you know professionals make
[speaker001:] oh wow I've been yeah I've been working well I that's it I've been working for uh oh thirty five years for the the government and think I've got a pretty good job but I don't make that much
[speaker002:] yeah I didn't either
[speaker001:] and I've got uh a a degree and everything else you see and I and I don't know hopefully you you'd think that if they were making that kind of money they would try to have a little pride in
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] in uh the product that they put out so it is a good car but
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] uh my family's bought uh my sister bought uh a a Buick paid twenty thousand dollars for it she's had nothing but trouble with that thing
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and you know you pay that kind of money you should uh it should be trouble free at least for fifty fifty seventy thousand and then
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] and uh she's had it in the in the shop garage and shop and she called today and said oh it's uh leaking oil out of the head gasket she's only got about twenty thousand on it
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so she's got to take that back in and have them work on it but and I and I think it from what I can hear it's just because they uh they don't take the pride that uh the Japanese do or something in in their work or workmanship that when something comes out and their name's on it they want it to to be the best and so I I hate to stay away from American