[speaker001:] all right Amy how are you doing today
[speaker002:] fine fine
[speaker001:] oh all righty I think we know what we're going to speak about um tell you what I'll start off how's that
[speaker002:] yeah okay you go ahead
[speaker001:] um I personally think to set a mark with the judicial system and we're talking about criminals criminal cases that they should bring back
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] hangings on weekends
[speaker002:] in public places
[speaker001:] in public places there is one state that does that by the way
[speaker002:] yeah really what is that
[speaker001:] I want to say Oklahoma I saw report something the other night about it
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] they don't do them real often which is obviously the death penalty
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] um but I think if we quit uh building these Taj Mahals with the color TVs and sixty dollars sixty thousand a year to keep an inmate in there on a on a on a life sentence we should start hanging them and get it over with and let's just screwing up the system uh
[speaker002:] yeah well the sentences are so unbelievable I just saw on the news last night that they said the average time a sentenced murderer you know is in jail is two years before he's paroled and a rapists is like six months and a burglar is like two months
[speaker001:] that's pathetic that's pathetic it's
[speaker002:] because they just say there's either no room in the system you know in the jails for them or you know it's just that it seems like the automatic sentences if if a judge has leeway on what he's going to you know sentence someone for between you know two months and uh fifty years and you know what's his whim to decide it should be two months
[speaker001:] this is true and and and and and the way the law reads uh if they sentence you to
[speaker002:] you know it's crazy
[speaker001:] life in prison then he's available for parole if it's if it's life and a day then he's not eligible for parole so what you know let's quit BSing with the system
[speaker002:] yeah well even if it's life like you say we end up spending sixty thousand dollars a year to keep some you know joker in there for life we could spend that money you know for starving children that are starving or twelve million other things would be more useful than that
[speaker001:] exactly
[speaker002:] so to me if somebody has life you know beyond a reasonable doubt they should that should be it you know particularly for some of these really
[speaker001:] a life for a life
[speaker002:] I mean there are so many just major major serial murders and it's not just like one instance or something it's just uh horrifying some of the murders that go on
[speaker001:] the old Charles Manson case I mean the guy is really
[speaker002:] yeah and the yeah there's just everyday you hear on the news of another one like that um
[speaker001:] just shouldn't be allowed to to even even live uh about the issue about sentencing by the judge
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] the the judge presently has an opportunity to intervene uh when there's uh my understanding when there's uh a verdict and it for example there's a hung jury here in Fort Worth two day in eight to four and bam bam the guy got off uh he was uh he he was a veterinarian and killed two a father and a son okay
[speaker002:] right yeah I heard about that on the news yeah
[speaker001:] um kind of gets back to the second request we've been asked to look at is most criminal cases requiring an ananimous verdict the a situation like that I'd say no let's just go like a regular vote eight to four tells me that there were eight there's a percentage certain percentage of the people there with sixty percent of the people uh seventy percent of the people said hey
[speaker002:] right rather than have to retrial the whole whole thing and spend all the money for people to you know go back to court and all the lawyers and I mean it just winds up costing the taxpayers a fortune you know a fortune to keep doing that
[speaker001:] the guy's guilty exactly
[speaker002:] and the victims you know the family of these people that have been murdered they just have to have it dragged on for years and years before they ever get any resolution
[speaker001:] exactly because it's not next day they have the start the trial which is X number of months and just prolongs the situation that much more
[speaker002:] right yeah yeah
[speaker001:] I think that that if it's if it's not a split decision uh go with the highest number and let's just get on with the program
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] uh but as far as the sentencing by the judge I would have to vote against that since there's a jury because that's what the juries are for is to make the decision um what are your feelings
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well if I I saw on one of the talk shows this woman judge I believe from Florida and she just has just really stiff penalties and I saw that in in the hands of a judge that really was conscientious and really you know took the pains to give a sentence for what was deserved it could you could have a a judge that would really make a good impact but likewise you could have the flip side and have some judge that was paid off or you know had good a good old boy network or for whatever reasons you know politics just let all kinds of people through so he he would have a heck or she would have a heck of a lot of power you know if used wrongly so at least the jury system does something to prevent that you know or help it with it anyway I don't know if it prevents it but seems like the jury system does have it's advantages but I also I've also heard on trials that sometimes they go through like three hundred jurors before they hand pick these jurors that they think are going to be the ones that are going to be the most lenient you know and I don't know how much they're getting just a jury of their peers at that point they're really getting a select group it's not just random people
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] it almost should be the first twelve people that they you know that have on a list are the ones that are on the jury and that's it
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I get back to Price's comment when he uh was found guilty he said well he didn't have any blacks uh you know from his neck of the woods well give me a break you know
[speaker002:] you know  he'd have to have his whole family up there for him to feel like he's got his peers or something yeah
[speaker001:] exactly yeah yeah I mean you're you're in Dallas so everybody I can't believe they can uh like in a murder situations they look for juries who don't know anything about the system well or know anything about the the occurrence you'd have to be pretty dense
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you'd be in have to be in a cave not to know what's going on or moving it to Lubbock or somewhere possibly is not the answer
[speaker002:] yeah oh they'd have to move it to Taiwan for people not to know about it practically
[speaker001:] this is true so true well this has been an interesting conversation
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well really this is breaks up my afternoon from changing diapers and mopping floors I mean what can I say no I'm at home with two little kids preschoolers my husband works for TI
[speaker001:] oh so you're at the house you're not at the plant oh hold it oh that's good that's good I thought I heard a holler there in the background but I wasn't sure
[speaker002:] so yeah oh yeah I've got the dog and two kids waiting here I am locked up in the laundry room okay thanks a lot bye-bye
[speaker001:] oh goodness well I'll let you get I enjoyed it bye