[speaker001:] all right I I think our experience of camping is I I am the the passive member I get things ready and then I enjoy
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh because my my husband is a good camper and so they he manages the troops and they do the work and I have fun
[speaker002:] uh-huh well uh uh your you said your family was grown uh all grown up now how about when they were younger did you go camping take them camping
[speaker001:] that's when we camped the most when I thinks it's a marvelous activity for younger families
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] because uh I it seems like I would go through a period of time where I just uh was really overworked you know and and getting out into nature and relaxing
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and having the family do a good share of the work you know and the part that I did was more fun than uh than labor because they did the the running and toting chores and I just helped cook and kind of organize you know
[speaker002:] yeah but even even cooking over an open fire is a little more fun isn't it
[speaker001:] it is isn't it it isn't have what kinds of things have you tried have you done uh uh uh the big pot cooking
[speaker002:] oh oh uh well it was really my ex who did the the uh uh the cooking back when we first started
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and we found that the you know what was one one great handy things was this uh uh uh hamburger helper
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] because all you needed was a big frying pan you dumped everything in together
[speaker001:] big frying pan
[speaker002:] and it was enough for all five of us six of us
[speaker001:] oh that's interesting you know interesting enough uh the food part was kind of uh important thing in our camping uh when my oldest son
[speaker002:] six of us
[speaker001:] uh always at the beginning I did all the shopping and everything but the the neat breakthrough was when my oldest son Mark took his uh uh cooking merit badge in and and Mark was the kind of camper who ate beef Stroganoff and uh
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] I mean you know he did it up really good and so uh after he took that merit badge he did all the shopping and preparing getting ready for it
[speaker002:] well that's great
[speaker001:] it was it was a marvelous experience because after that then all I had to do was uh follow the instructions you know and do and we did a lot of interesting kinds of things like I would take corn bread and uh cook a pan inside of a pan over a over a camp uh stove and it works real good it's like an oven
[speaker002:] uh-huh well
[speaker001:] just put uh put a thing on it
[speaker002:] cooking was our secondary interest I mean
[speaker001:] what did you like to do most
[speaker002:] well really just commune with nature
[speaker001:] that's neat isn't it
[speaker002:] we started out uh well we were living in Florida at the time and we early in life we discovered that six people all going on vacation gets to be very very expensive
[speaker001:] right I agree
[speaker002:] so my ex decided we're going to try camping and she went out one day on the spur of the moment and bought a tent and that's how we got started we did it for years and years uh
[speaker001:] huh well now in Florida is there is there times are there times of the year when it's very comfortable to camp or is it always kind of hot
[speaker002:] well yes uh yes and no I mean um yes in the winter time yes it's it gets kind of chilly or it can get chilly but uh there's really no time of the year that you can't go
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh is that true now now we're we're in Texas now and you're in Texas right
[speaker002:] uh because yes I'm in Dallas
[speaker001:] okay uh we have not camped a great deal here because uh a good share of the time in the Summer time it's too hot really to be very comfortable camping
[speaker002:] well it just depends on where you go for instance if you went down to the sea shore it would be wonderful a nice breeze blowing in from the water
[speaker001:] I guess yeah yeah we have done that but but we camped mostly when the kids were little we were in we were in New Jersey
[speaker002:] oh where abouts
[speaker001:] and we uh in uh Allendale and uh and uh Waldwick it's just about twelve miles south of the New York border
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and we'd go up to the Adirondacks and camp and it was so you know pick your own uh blueberries and make blueberry pancakes for breakfast uh also go ahead
[speaker002:] oh yes yes yes I come I come from up in that area I'm a New Yorker myself
[speaker001:] oh are you where did you live
[speaker002:] a little town called Tuckaho over by White Plains
[speaker001:] oh oh yeah I know that I had a cousin who lived in White Plains that's a that's a neat area but it's a that is a particularly neat area for camping
[speaker002:] well that I wouldn't know I left there when I was quite young
[speaker001:] because yeah it is neat though because there are lots of lakes fairly near by you don't have to go very far
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh and there's uh a lot of trees lot of mountains and lot of uh hiking sort of things and and we had uh collapsible boat which we uh clipper little clipper sail boat
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and so we would sail and and uh did a lot of camping that way
[speaker002:] well uh me I outgrew uh sleeping bags and uh tents and I now have a motor home
[speaker001:] oh do you we've gotten out a time or two on a rented basis and it's fun too I think
[speaker002:] well I live in mine yes
[speaker001:] do you that's neat so you kind of uh uh an everyday camper
[speaker002:] uh well yes I consider myself what they call a full-timer
[speaker001:] a full time camper well now are you living alone now or
[speaker002:] yeah the yes well just me and my dog
[speaker001:] you and your dog huh hey that sounds great well we don't we don't camp quite as much as we used to but uh I still think it's a great way to spend a time with your family and
[speaker002:] yeah oh yes definitely
[speaker001:] and enjoy nature and uh kind of wipe out the stress of everyday life I'd always
[speaker002:] nothing like the fresh outdoors
[speaker001:] right I'd always come home just relaxed and uh comfortable and ready to go at it again so it was a neat activity good to talk to you tell me your name again
[speaker002:] Jack uh-huh are you uh from Dallas too Beth
[speaker001:] Jack all right yes yes we've been here we're we're in Plano but we've been here about uh eighteen years
[speaker002:] oh well that's where we that's where I am Plano
[speaker001:] are you are you how about that well we're all lots of people from TI up this way
[speaker002:] it uh-huh
[speaker001:] all right good to talk to you all right all right bye-bye
[speaker002:] nice talking to you too Beth bye