[speaker001:] so tell me about Silence of the Lambs is it great
[speaker002:] I liked it I really did actually I saw it twice my roommate ex-roommate and I were real into psychological things we we think people with mind problems are really interesting so I mean you know real psychotic people so we were dying to see it so we went and saw it and I had to see it the second time to get it all because I kept my eyes closed through so much of the first part
[speaker001:] right is it really that scary
[speaker002:] well it's it's not that it's that scary it's that it's so graphic because uh how well are you going to see it I don't want to tell you how it ends
[speaker001:] I I I uh I plan on probably renting it at some point in my life
[speaker002:] okay so some time later much later huh
[speaker001:] yeah I've got small children I don't get out to many movies
[speaker002:] okay well it's uh what is so weird about it is that it it's a real it's based on real people
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and I read the story in People magazine about where they got the characters in the movie and they're a combination of a lot of different serial killers in real life and so a lot of things that happen in the movie the only thing really scary about it is that it could happen to you it really does happen in real life you know normally normally in movies you can look at it and say well it's a movie
[speaker001:] and that doesn't really happen it's only pretend
[speaker002:] right right but in this you're going I I would have done that I can see where that would happen
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] and it's it gets really scary but it's it's a real interesting movie very thought provoking there are so many things to discuss when the movie's over if you're one of those people that likes to discuss things and and think about why it happened
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I I still talk about it with we'll call each other every now and then and go remember when in the movie this happened well I was just reading today and and things just keep relating back to it I thought it was fascinating
[speaker001:] wow maybe I should go see it in a theatre and plan to go out to dinner afterwards so we could sit and talk about it
[speaker002:] I don't know if you want to go to dinner maybe just go out for a soda or something I don't think you want to eat it it is real good though it's it's uh I liked it I liked Dances with Wolves too though that was a real good movie
[speaker001:] oh yeah that's one of the best films I've seen in a long time
[speaker002:] yeah I didn't think I'd like it I don't normally like the uh the old West type movies things like that the they don't normally interest me but that one I really really liked because it it I didn't know so much about the Indians and all that that happened in that part of the war
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I had never heard anything really about that before and this was a whole new idea to me anyway I thought it was real good
[speaker001:] what what's your heritage
[speaker002:] um I'm about a quarter Italian and my grandmother on my mother's side is a little bit of everything
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] typical American little bit of Indian little bit of this little bit of that and that's about it
[speaker001:] yeah I've I've got quite a bit of Indian blood in me so
[speaker002:] what do you
[speaker001:] some of it was um things that I had heard well both of I had two great grandparents that were full blood
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] and but they were on opposite sides
[speaker002:] which which one were they Sioux Indians or what were they
[speaker001:] no one was uh Blackfoot and one was Cherokee
[speaker002:] oh neat
[speaker001:] and um so I knew a lot about just um oh the kind of respect they had for the earth
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that it was real it wasn't something I'd just read in books it was something I was taught
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and um and so you know like the the scene with the buffalo
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] oh I cried that was horrible
[speaker002:] that was awesome oh I did too I did too
[speaker001:] I I just I mean it you know it that because I know it happened over and over and over again
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and I mean it's just like we're raping our land now but
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] um you know it was I I just thought that was one of the movies best movies I've seen in so long because it made me laugh I mean I was you know parts of it I was just almost in the aisles laughing over it and
[speaker002:] it makes you realize how really ignorant some white people are people who have no ethnic background no heritage anything other than just typical Americans a little bit of everything and they don't really know
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] they don't know anything about the Indian people they don't know anything about the Europeans that came over
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know it it really made it seem like we are so in the dark on so many things
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah I think that it yeah tried to make people realize that um we can't close our mind to another culture simply because it's not ours
[speaker002:] right exactly
[speaker001:] and uh and it was so there was so much the Indians did teach us and there was so much more they could have taught us had we only listened
[speaker002:] uh-huh and I still really other than just basic ignorance of prejudice I don't understand why we didn't why them why did we not listen to them I've never
[speaker001:] they had something we wanted we wanted
[speaker002:] yeah well yeah but isn't isn't it sad to think that that much that greed can do that much to you or to a person I mean they we wanted the land and we didn't want them to have it so just screw everything they're going to think and teach us and tell us and and we could just like wipe out an entire people like that
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] that's that's sad
[speaker001:] well I I think of the uh you know the the gang wars and the racial wars that we have now in so many of our cities and in our high schools
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that are basically the same thing acted out by a younger generation over
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh you know they're fighting over things that are to them are important enough to possibly die for
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and yet they just don't matter
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and you know I mean it comes down to that the land or the the territory or the you know the bathroom or whatever is there for everyone
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] and it can be enjoyed by all if shared
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I mean but but that's what we did to the Indians we said you know we're afraid of you you don't you don't look like we do you don't talk like we do so we're going to move you out
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and and we offered reservations as you know consolation prize and they were a joke
[speaker002:] right right that is that's a good way to look at it a consolation prize that's about all it was
[speaker001:] yeah yeah they
[speaker002:] that's really sad that things like that can still happen today after all this time
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you would think we'd a learned something by now
[speaker001:] yeah but he who has the biggest stick is still going to win
[speaker002:] yeah that's true he with the most toys
[speaker001:] I guess that's right hey all that counts in Monopoly is who has Boardwalk and Pork Park Place
[speaker002:] that's right who's got more hotel I really did like Silence of the Lambs though that was really an interesting movie I I liked Dances with Wolves but it was a more an emotional like you get real involved and you cried and you feel real sorry for the people you know and all this but in Silence of the Lambs it was kind of that Fatal Attraction did you see that
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] it was kind of that feeling through the whole thing on the edge of your seat wanting to tell the people what to do next you know you're like no don't go in there don't give him your name you you just you start acting it out for them
[speaker001:] yeah I definitely ought to get in on a rental then because people would look at me in the theatre going what is this woman doing
[speaker002:] no believe it or not the whole theatre got involved I mean yes in fact I'm trying to I can't remember which scene it was but at one point everyone in the theatre clapped
[speaker001:] really
[speaker002:] they were so happy it was it was and I thought I was just there and I heard other people crying when I was crying
[speaker001:] man
[speaker002:] there were certain parts in there that were real sad and you hear people when you know the the actors are doing things that you know are about to reap some bad thing and everyone in the theatre will go and you know everybody does it it's like the whole theatre you get this big sound and it was I I think everybody felt that way through it it was very real involved and all the girls were crying when they walked out and all the guys were just kind of staring straight ahead like that didn't bother me and you know it did
[speaker001:] goodness
[speaker002:] I
[speaker001:] yeah this is going to roll right off my side
[speaker002:] right I remember the first time I saw it was with my boyfriend and he was joking with me about how I wasn't going to watch half of it I was going to close my eyes and there were quite a few scenes where I did but this one scene I knew something bad was coming I could tell so I ducked my head and about that time I heard the audience go and my boyfriend jumped he literally jumped and he swears he didn't do it and I felt him jump
[speaker001:] oh that's great
[speaker002:] and it really was to this day I tell him he was scared and he says no no you you just didn't watch it you should have watched it it wasn't that bad I'm like yeah right that's why you jumped
[speaker001:] I'm going to have a hard time waiting for it to come out on video now
[speaker002:] yeah really it is a great movie you got to see it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's so fascinating to think that there are people that are so so smart they're such geniuses that they've cross that line and they're they're psychotic and it's amazing
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah it's very scary
[speaker002:] it really is I mean to think that it could be anybody we know I mean you could be walking right next to one of them and not even know it because they look perfectly normal I mean this man was a doctor
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and he had patients in fact they were the people he killed you know and you think right now your doctor could be wacko he could be some psychotic killer and no one would ever know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's just strange but that that was what was that was what made the movie because it's so real I like movies that are based on on things that are real
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I do too oh yeah oh what was it um the ones about um Von Bulows
[speaker002:] oh what was that
[speaker001:] um oh the something about Portuguese