[speaker001:] I think I'm probably somewhere around a five on the scale they gave uh um I don't like the idea of you know anyone being able to just sort of go up to a store and buy a hand gun for about uh you know forty dollars or whatever and go out and shoot someone but I also think that uh hunting is a legitimate use for weapons and uh I also sort of believe that although you know certainly our government is is very nice now it it probably doesn't hurt this sort of ultimate back up to have some some citizens to have guns if for some reason something ever happened and our government was run by someone who decided to make it non democratic well that's a very farfetched and you know sort of you know paranoid if you will possibility but you know it I guess it's it's I think it's it's always sort of a bad idea when the only people that have guns are the military and the police since
[speaker002:] well you're right there and uh I just think they should have a little more restriction on who buys guns
[speaker001:] yeah I mean I I
[speaker002:] instead of just being able to walk into a store and buy a gun they should have a waiting period
[speaker001:] yeah I agree completely there should be a waiting period and they should be able to do a background check on you
[speaker002:] exactly and I and as far as hunting I'm sure you know this is the same thing and if if you are a a you know a legitimate hunter or you just need a handgun or something like that a two week or three week wait period is not going to make any difference
[speaker001:] yeah I mean most yeah I agree completely
[speaker002:] if your criminal and you need a gun for that night it's going you know it's going to make you a little bit mad
[speaker001:] yeah yeah yeah
[speaker002:] but they should you know they should have some kind of restrictions and I think everybody should have to have a permit they don't require everybody to have a permit
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and I think they should if you're going to have a gun you need to to you know register it and and have a legitimate reason as to why you have it
[speaker001:] yeah that's a reasonable
[speaker002:] and it I I don't even think they do that in Texas do they
[speaker001:] yeah uh I don't think so
[speaker002:] I don't think so either
[speaker001:] you need a permit to carry a concealed handgun I think in some states I think Texas might be one of those but to just carry you know one in the open or whatever is no problem
[speaker002:] uh-huh um-hum
[speaker001:] um yeah although I one thing is I think no matter what rules you set unless you sort of had uh good enforcement of it it wouldn't matter I mean the types of people that cause trouble with handguns aren't the sort to care what the law is anyway
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] um and I'm sure they would certainly attempt to buy them on the black market so you'd need uh you know a good method of ensuring that they weren't available there which given the success or rather lack there of of the police in controlling the market in drugs I sort of wonder uh you know really how effective it would be but I don't I don't mean that
[speaker002:] I know it'd just make it it would make it harder for them to get them but they still could but
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I mean I don't mean it as an argument to not have waiting periods and that sort of thing but I just you know I just I think it's something to be aware of that it probably would not be the the ultimate solution that would solve all crime problems
[speaker002:] but you're right they're always gonna yeah hum-um because they're always going to be able to get them
[speaker001:] um yeah uh do you do you have any sort of you know real real life experience with uh you know either people owning guns or people being uh you know assaulted with uh guns or anything like that
[speaker002:] no not not really my my daddy was always a hunter so we always had rifles or shotguns or things around the house but you know he was responsible with those and
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] um there was never an accident or anything like that and we've never been robbed or mugged or anything like that
[speaker001:] yeah my dad hunted when he was young although he didn't um by the time I came along so we didn't we didn't have guns in in our house he left them at uh his parents house so you know I got to see them or whatever
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but uh I do uh uh another student who I didn't know personally at Rice uh but uh it's not that small that uh large a community about a week ago uh was shot in the head with a gun yeah um he was you know going home sort of late at night after studying and uh
[speaker002:] oh my goodness
[speaker001:] you know robbers said you know I guess he was on a motorcycle and he had a his motorcycle helmet on which saved his life um because
[speaker002:] my oh my goodness
[speaker001:] they said you know we want your money you know we have gun or whatever so he was like okay here have my money you know I'll lie on the ground I'll do whatever you say I'll I'm not going to put up any fight whatsoever and uh apparently there were two guys and one of them was really kind of jumpy and the other seemed kind of uh relaxed so he said to the relaxed guy hey you know please tell your friend not to shoot me you know but uh apparently the other guy for whatever reason uh shot him anyway
[speaker002:] oh my goodness
[speaker001:] and uh thanks to the fact his his motorcycle helmet was made out of Kevlar which is the same thing that bullet proof vest are made out of and so uh you know he was shot in the head but he was unharmed you know I mean I think I think he might've gone to the hospital anyway just to you know be looked at but
[speaker002:] oh oh my goodness
[speaker001:] um he didn't even have a concussion or or anything like that
[speaker002:] oh how frightening
[speaker001:] but uh so it's kind of scary
[speaker002:] it really is
[speaker001:] living at um Houston's got a lot of crime
[speaker002:] but they you know and they have when my sister when she was going to the University of Texas she had