[speaker001:] talk about the activities that we don't do uh
[speaker002:] yeah I I don't have any children so but I I have a lot of friends with children and I know they spend a lot of time with them which is good
[speaker001:] that's good to hear yeah and I haven't uh well I've been around a lot of people lately at work at my job that don't have a lot of values
[speaker002:] you know
[speaker001:] so it's it's always nice to see people that like each other and like uh families that get along with each other and like to do things together
[speaker002:] yeah yeah they have a lot of values I love that do they have children
[speaker001:] um the one the the most valueless girl doesn't but she's married now I I'm not quite sure why I I think he said that he'd give her a big ring and she got married to him
[speaker002:] oh that's wonderful
[speaker001:] but it's it's it's it's kind of weighed on me and then the other day my husband and I met a couple who who're they're just gonna have their first child and they really like each other and they're real happy with one another and she says things like I'm really glad when he comes home and there's not enough time to spend with him in the evening and I'm like
[speaker002:] oh that's neat
[speaker001:] really
[speaker002:] that's good you know I like to see that you know I have uh some friends that uh first of all
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh the girls joined they have two girls one joined the Girl Scouts and the other was in the Brownies and then the mother got involved as a leader and then all of a sudden the father was getting involved with doing nature hikes for them and working with the Girl Scout camp here in Dallas and then going out to um Betty Perot Camp and working with the horses and stuff and they're gone a lot and they take their girls and they go away for weekends and in the winter time even you know to do work with the Girl Scouts and I think it's neat
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] you know they've really become very much involved in in just that one organization which the organization can use the help too so I I wish I could see more of that you know
[speaker001:] right well on Sunday we just met uh a family we were thinking about getting Maine Coon Cat and we went over to a lady that breeds them here in town and uh her daughter actually it was her she said that her husband said to her daughter you need a hobby so she chose the cats and you can tell it's a family hobby the cats they're all a part of it and it was really neat because they all were interested in each other and and the cats and they raise champion cats
[speaker002:] ooh those are neat cats too
[speaker001:] so they've done really well yeah I've just learned about that breed
[speaker002:] they're really nice looking cats I have seven cats but they're all mongrels
[speaker001:] well that's what we're gonna end up getting
[speaker002:] well they're the ones that need the homes
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] you know mine were just all um strays in the neighborhood little baby kittens dropped and stuff and it just kind of built one at a time just kind I couldn't you know one time two of them came at once and I can't turn a hungry cat down
[speaker001:] oh I know
[speaker002:] so you know and the last one that I picked was here uh the kids brought him over and said he was injured and it was winter time and I said I just cannot have another cat I just cannot have another cat and I looked out there and he was just laying on my lawn just shivering and all and I said I can't stand it I brought him in so
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] those are my children we don't have very many activities but
[speaker001:] no I know what you mean our cat hates other cats and the we've tried to get her to like other cats and she just uh she wants to be around human beings and she does not wanna be around other cats so our next we're gonna try it with a kitten and see if her maternal instincts come out
[speaker002:] huh lots of luck is she spayed oh yeah real maternal
[speaker001:] yeah we're hoping it's our last hope
[speaker002:] she'll eventually I mean mine you know I have five males and two females everybody's spayed everybody's neutered and we still have a scrap every now and then nothing real bad you know a slap here and there but um they put up with each other and they will eventually her nose will be out of joint for a while and she'll hiss and growl and slap every now and then but they'll she'll finally accept it you know they really don't have any choice in my in my household we have a little bit of uh a fight for who's boss mean a male cats are are real you know real territorial and so that's the big battle here you know uh who's who's top dog well top cat I guess you know but um we I don't I don't know I don't have a problem with it I think they
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] just learn to accept and I have two dogs too and they've slapped the dogs around too every now and then so
[speaker001:] yeah yeah that's true they've got to keep them in line
[speaker002:] yeah but she'll accept another cat eventually as long as you make her feel um like she's still loved and everything so
[speaker001:] yeah well those Maine Coon cats were great they were fourteen pounds and
[speaker002:] and they're
[speaker001:] oh they're just gorgeous but yeah three hundred and fifty dollars for a kitten and I think of those I think of the kittens at the pound
[speaker002:] oh my gosh yeah three hundred and fifty dollars
[speaker001:] I just yeah yeah and they are lovely but
[speaker002:] ooh house payment that is is a lot of money
[speaker001:] right yeah and then she's saying you know you can't let them outside and you can't do all this stuff and I'm like ooh
[speaker002:] I don't let mine out anyway but I let two of them out just in the back yard every now and then but my cats are inside I'm afraid you know with neighbors it people throw rocks at them and people run over them and I I just you know I just don't I know so and and now they've lost the desire most of them don't even try to get you know to go out I just have two that drive me crazy that I let out in the back you know but I won't let them get if they start going in the front and stuff I bring the m in
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] you know I just worry I guess I'm too protective but you know I see these cats that are wandering around the neighborhood and too they can catch diseases really easy just by touching a nose to another cat they can contact leukemia
[speaker001:] yeah yeah yeah
[speaker002:] feline leukemia so we know we try try real hard to keep them healthy
[speaker001:] uh we just bought a acre a house with an acre to try to so she'll she'll have some room to walk around and not off of a busy street we're we're choosing our house for our cat isn't that bad
[speaker002:] oh how neat people do it for their children I mean why not well you know why not why not
[speaker001:] oh them too well because I he loves she's one of those that loves outside and she doesn't go far but she just wants to be able to have that freedom
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well if you're off off a road you know away from a road and you're off of the main road you said away from a road you know and you keep an eye on her it's probably okay I'm just real
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] I don't know I guess I'm in a neighborhood and it's it's just real tough on animals here you know when I every time I see one run over I just you know it makes me sick so
[speaker001:] yeah it gets hard especially with the cars oh I know
[speaker002:] you know but anyway we kind of got off the subject of children except that I consider them my children
[speaker001:] yeah yeah our cats are our kids or I we we got married a few months ago and I'm like well why can't Ashley be at the wedding
[speaker002:] yeah oh no in her little bridesmaid dress
[speaker001:] yeah you know if I could have I would have done it oh
[speaker002:] well I'm sure it's been done I'm sure it has been done well they have weddings for dogs now and cats and you know you they have all that parties for them where they dress up I've seen it in
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] magazines and stuff where you dress your animals up and take them to a party I haven't gone that far I'm not that bonkers you know my cats do not wear clothes and
[speaker001:] oh my  no I I don't think they'd like to I put a bow on her one night on day and Jerry just kept saying you are the meanest person
[speaker002:] no no
[speaker001:] I took a picture of her and that was all it all it lasted for
[speaker002:] well do your do any of your friends have have uh older children that they do anything with do do you have friends with older children or they just all have young kids
[speaker001:] um yeah all the ones I know my brother-in-law has three young kids seven and on down and they they go on family vacations and uh they go like to go skiing the the middle girl doesn't get a whole lot of attention but uh this last ski trip they took um she had contracted chicken pox first and then she spread it to her her little younger sister and her brother and they got it just at the beginning of the
[speaker002:] um no
[speaker001:] vacation where she got better so she not only is she the better skier but she got all the attention because she got to go out I think think she planned it she's only five but I think she planned and she got all the attention from her dad wow oh yeah
[speaker002:] love it  oh say that she needed that didn't she you know it must be hard when you have a lot of children I you know to have I was an only child my mother was an only child so I you know I wasn't raised with brothers or sisters and I always got all the attention so I wouldn't know I think I would be extremely jealous or would have been had there been another child in the family
[speaker001:] yeah it's it's we can see it work with her it's she's frustrated
[speaker002:] tough must be tough yeah yeah oh she she's the middle one so she's never been the only one so she really doesn't even know what it is to be the only one
[speaker001:] yeah right
[speaker002:] yeah that's tough you know