[speaker001:] up here in Rochester uh we're the second cleanest metropolitan city as far as air pollution I think Grand Rapids was number one uh we really don't have too much of a problem as far as uh industry since we're pretty technologically based as far as our industry in the city here but we do have the same problem a lot of are other areas up here in the northeast have and that is the effects of acid rain
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] coming coming basically from coal plants in Ohio and Illinois and Indiana
[speaker002:] well that's that's that's true actually down here we don't have a big problem with uh with air pollution mainly because we don't have anybody to the either side of us uh which helps out a lot as far as that goes I wouldn't even necessarily thought of that except when I lived up in Boston and up in uh you know debates would come up up there in Massachusetts and you know in that area over uh air pollution and their attitude's basically well prevailing ins winds are to the east so why should we have to worry
[speaker001:] yeah I've I've uh was in Los Angeles once and that was quite a difference as far as pollution goes I mean you couldn't really see that much every once in a while we have these air inversions the weather
[speaker002:] oh yes nothing
[speaker001:] inversions and then it gets hazy around here but they're really we don't have a big problem with it I think that uh what most of the people here in New York state are going after right now is it's it's the uh ongoing acid rain problem especially out in the uh uh Adirondack areas where you know the lakes are becoming uh changing the acidity of the lakes and we're having problems now because the fish are dying and certain acidic loving plants uh or alkaline liking plants are just not lasting anymore because the soil levels the p H is changing
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] as this acid rain continues to fall and I know that there's been battles over the states up here uh you know Governor Mario going after you know governors of Ohio and and Indiana to fix what's going on down there I remember when I was in Florida the only problem was that it seemed like it may it wasn't really pollution just the steamy weather
[speaker002:] oh absolutely yeah just muggy so yes I think you're yeah I think you're right our most pollute substance down here is just water but uh
[speaker001:] yeah it
[speaker002:] hey I I I think you know the biggest causes though even then a lot of times are uh uh like when I was up in Boston just all the cars you know all over the place you just got a lot of you know a a lot of pollution from those and uh you know if you don't have a wind it sticks around
[speaker001:] oh yeah I you know I was in Boston once and I remembered seeing some of these things coming through at rush hour even with the tee um just this it looked like billions of cars massing
[speaker002:] absolutely
[speaker001:] and if they sit there and then there's nowhere for the air to go I mean yeah that's what's in you know Los Angeles is I think that's biggest problem because when I was in Los Angeles for a time it's all you know from Los Angeles to San Diego it's like all city
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and there's really there's nowhere for this to be absorbed really um tree planting sometimes can handle you know stopping some of the air pollution and that and help but if you have nowhere to do anything
[speaker002:] that's that's very true uh you know of course then when when you're not recycling you've got these incendiary plants and stuff that can be some pretty disgusting stuff going up in the atmosphere but I you know you've you've got you've got the industry you've got that and you got the cars and I think the cars are where where it's at right now as far as pollution goes air air pollution I mean
[speaker001:] yeah I you know Florida doesn't seem to be at least maybe Miami but I I uh you know Fort Lauderdale I I don't know what the big industries are down there uh but you know up here we have Kodak and that's the worst polluter they put uh
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] uh you can smell ether in the air sometimes keeps the neighborhoods happy I guess
[speaker002:] I I guess so
[speaker001:] uh cause they clean the uh the lenses for cameras and they they make film here and they're the worst offender but you know sulphur dioxide is the big emittant from them but that's really getting under control now
[speaker002:] right I you know I I don't know in the air down here what they do uh I I haven't run across any major pollutants down there that I I I've really seen a lot of you know upsettedness about uh I I I know I've seen like uh my grandparents live in Corpus Christi Texas and I know they've there's a lot of refineries down there and and that's that's some pretty potent stuff they can put up in the air
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I but I don't know how uh yeah there's a difference in what you can smell and what you uh you know what's bad
[speaker001:] be interesting to see when as Mexico develops industrially whether you know without