[speaker001:] okay um Bryan you've said you have one child right now have you had any problems with day with child care services
[speaker002:] yes well yes uh yes in fact we have had a uh a minor problem we've we tried to use the child care facility at the tennis club that we belong to and just didn't feel that it provided the kind of quality care that that we want for our child at this point
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] um so it is in fact difficult to find uh quality services uh
[speaker001:] did you utilize utilize that full-time while you were working
[speaker002:] no um my wife doesn't work so we were just uh planning on trying to use that as a as a break in our activity and to give her a little more free time
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but the uh the the center that we went to had we've felt like uh had too many children for each counselor and so you know any any child that had any kind of problem or was just upset wasn't going to receive the kind of attention that we wanted our child to have
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh I'm I'm sure that's that's the problem with many uh care centers like that it's uh a difficult task to provide you know reasonable cost child care
[speaker001:] what type of costs were you facing excessive or
[speaker002:] no it was uh I think it was four dollars an hour
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] what I was what I was thinking of was that you know for the for the uh the sitter to be able to provide low cost care they you know they can't pay too much for the counselors and can't provide too many counselors per child
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but it's you know we're we're used to used to just uh just felt more comfortable with uh you know with more of a babysitter situation where the the child has has the full attention of someone
[speaker001:] yeah we're at a stage in our life where we don't have any kids yeah but we're approaching that point where we're going to have make a decision as far as does does my wife continue to work or do I continue to work to uh
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] make ends meet and do you put child child in day care somewhere along that lines and the reality is that we'll probably have to have a child in day care
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and uh been thinking about how much that's going to cost it's uh rather frightening figure you really cuts into your income
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] one of the things we have at our my company is uh day care reimbursement program we actually put money away into a tax free
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] uh program um and they it's you're reimbursed out of that out of that funds provided it's used specifically and only for day care
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] it's probably one of the few programs that I've seen uh that accomplished that
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] it it helps out a little bit
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but unfortunately I'm not you know able to tap into that until we have kids so that's down the road a little bit
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] but I do have some brothers and sisters who are struggling as as as it is right now to make ends meet and they're also very uncomfortable with the idea of day cares but they're forced into that situation right now
[speaker002:] yeah it's it's difficult I I don't know whether we'll find it easier when when the child gets a little bit older say one year old when it doesn't seem quite so vulnerable to uh you know to the outside world and my my wife keeps wondering how you know how how anybody can turn the child over to uh
[speaker001:] what's
[speaker002:] day care and I just tell her that you know it's just it's not a matter of choice for most people we're fortunate we we have a choice
[speaker001:] you know most people I know who have had to make that decision the spouse usually the the mother in situations that I can think of have been in tears they've dreaded the moment
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] for throughout most of the pregnancy knowing that they'd have to eventually go back to work and uh when the time actually came to send your child child child to day care it was basically a very traumatic moment
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] in my I see my wife nodding in the corner as she dreads that date too I imagine
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but it uh unfortunately it is a reality you just can't get by without well very few people can get by without two incomes um
[speaker002:] yeah it's true
[speaker001:] least especially in the early stages of a career
[speaker002:] yeah yeah it it does make it difficult to because now our child's six months old and you know essentially my my wife hasn't been away from him from more than a few hours at a time
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] so that takes its uh emotional toll on her
[speaker001:] do you find any uh that there would be any benefits to a day care such as exposure to uh unlimited basis exposure to other kids um developing social interaction
[speaker002:] yeah we think so we we we think that is important we're just not not sure at what