[speaker001:] okay Jay I was thinking about um this topic and I was remembering that guy that does an advertisement on the radio about drug testing and marijuana whether or not marijuana causes any trouble or not and he was saying how the train had wrecked
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] because the guy had been under the influence and he said whether you think you know you might think that it doesn't effect anybody but it does
[speaker002:] right exactly
[speaker001:] so I think it's a good idea is what I'm trying to say
[speaker002:] well I I do too and uh uh I work for Texas Instruments and and they have a mandatory drug testing before you hire in and uh I enjoy that environment I I want to be in in a you know drug free environment and I think that's a great way of uh of promoting it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] is to have the drug testing
[speaker001:] no  I can see now when you've been there a while though they were talking about random testing it seems like if there's no reason to suspect you
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that I might be offended if they asked me to come in and be tested you know what I mean
[speaker002:] would you see TI just started that policy uh they they have a random uh drug testing policy and uh uh it's random in the fact that you don't know when you're going to be called but everybody will be called
[speaker001:] and how often are they doing it
[speaker002:] and uh you mean like uh how how often would you be called up
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh you may be called up twenty times and one person will only be called up once but uh
[speaker001:] you mean in a year's time or what
[speaker002:] uh over the whole process I this' ll be an ongoing uh process uh from now on but in uh a year's time you might be called up I don't know twice or three times and nobody called up any uh but uh the way they have it set up or the way I understand is that they want everyone they've got it set up where all current employees uh will be called on a random basis but uh you know it's very likely that some may be called more uh more than others
[speaker001:] uh-huh because they'd be suspect or what
[speaker002:] no just because of the random process of it and uh I don't know they did talked about the the statistics of it and how they've tried to figure out uh you know to eliminate those problems but anytime it's uh it's a purely random sample uh you will have people called more more than others
[speaker001:] uh-huh well how do you feel about that
[speaker002:] but I'm I'm all for it because uh you know uh I want a a drug free environment I don't want a uh even though I do work in the the office I'm uh a financial analyst I'm probably in no danger as far as any chemicals or anything uh or machinery but I still want people in the in the office uh to have a professional demeanor about them and uh and not be under the influence influence when they come in to work and you know I guess if they have the urge and and have that habit they can do that on their own time but uh I feel like when when we're at work uh you know it's a team atmosphere and I I think that would distract from the team
[speaker001:] what if they did it though on their own time and it's still it stays in your body for such a long time
[speaker002:] well that's that's true and and to me they're still under under the influence if it's in their body and uh I don't know I that's I have a strong feeling that I'm against drugs and so if uh anyone is using drugs uh uh and it's in their system when they're tested then uh you know and TI has uh a pretty uh liberal they if you're tested positive then they automatically uh test you again and uh if that one comes back positive then they send you to a uh a drug rehab which TI pays for and uh
[speaker001:] oh that's real good that's real good
[speaker002:] uh huh what's that
[speaker001:] drug rehab and they'll send you to it so if they did have a problem they can get over it I agree with that
[speaker002:] right and uh uh so they send you to that and then they monitor you I I believe on a weekly basis you have to go in and take a test for and this goes on for several months
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh if they if you can prove to them that you've I don't know cleaned your act up or whatever then then uh they won't terminate you but any any time during that time if they do uh if you do test positive then uh it's automatic termination
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] so uh
[speaker001:] did you see that special about uh all these people that work on the road crews they're putting these bridges up and so many of them had tested positive for drugs and they they haven't been putting these bridges together correctly and like yeah and then uh on the lines for putting your automobiles together same thing they're under the influence and they're not doing the job right
[speaker002:] are you serious right
[speaker001:] now that's scary isn't it
[speaker002:] oh man that's right well and you know the same could be true at TI if somebody's putting a missile together and they uh you know mess it up and then that puts maybe a pilot or somebody at jeopardy and uh I don't know I
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I think any more that uh drugs are so prevalent you know in our society that that uh it may be up to the the work place to help try to control it because it doesn't seem like any where else uh you know we're getting that assistance because in schools you know I I would hate to have a child young child right now because I think this is going to be a tough tough period for young kids with uh you know the drugs as rampant as they are
[speaker001:] uh-huh well I've got an eleven year old son and an eight year old daughter and my son says I don't understand this drug stuff why don't people understand all you have to do is say no
[speaker002:] I see
[speaker001:] you know and he doesn't realize the pressure that he's going to be under later when his friends start doing this
[speaker002:] right exactly or uh uh an older peer will come up to him and and uh try to try to get him hooked on it so that he'll start selling it or something you know and uh I know uh you know just growing up
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I really looked up to the older guys you know especially if they played football or basketball or whatever and and uh I know that uh you know it'd be real easy to be influenced by by someone like that
[speaker001:] well I teach and last year a student that I'd had the year before so he would have been in third grade came to school with ice
[speaker002:] right golly now is this uh cocaine type
[speaker001:] and I mean it I don't I don't know what it is it's supposed to be uh real inexpensive I know that
[speaker002:] oh it is huh
[speaker001:] and anyway he's he's like a special ed child
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] you know and I could see he was probably selling it for these other people and we were doing these posters uh for drug antidrug campaign and all these little first graders were always drawing these pictures of ice cream trucks
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and the teacher started talking to them and they said that they were selling drugs out of ice cream trucks now
[speaker002:] golly that is terrible but I mean that makes sense because uh that's where all the uh the kids are you know you have the easy access to them and uh you know uh that'd make you know that would be a logical
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I tell you what these drug dealers are about the best business people there are because uh they know who the market is and they know exactly how to get to the market if uh if other businesses could do half as good as they do then uh there'd be some very profitable businesses but unfortunately they prey on prey on the young kids
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but I don't know
[speaker001:] so you think we should do this in every profession
[speaker002:] uh the drug testing
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I do uh I know where my father works he he works for a government contractor also and uh uh I believe any time you have a D O uh Department of Defense contract you have to have the drug testing and uh you know like uh uh athletes are starting to uh to test them for drugs so I I beli eve that it should be you know uh widespread and uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] that everyone should be tested what do you think
[speaker001:] I don't know some jobs it seems like it would just maybe be a waste of money because who cares you know I mean like I don't know
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] what one would be an example like should I say postal service or not I mean are they going to screw up on mail
[speaker002:] like what about your right right well what about uh teaching uh your profession
[speaker001:] do I think they should
[speaker002:] do you think they should in in that profession
[speaker001:] well see I don't really see the need of it you know how many elementary school teachers do you think are going to be on drugs
[speaker002:] right uh I guess the only the only concern I'd have
[speaker001:] you might feel like you need it by the end of the day but I don't know it would cost so much money and I think maybe we could use that money in the schools you know to buy paper or something
[speaker002:] right exactly I guess so somewhere else right
[speaker001:] especially since we're going to cut
[speaker002:] you know I guess the only fear I would have would be that uh you know if I had a child uh that one in a million first grade teachers that would be on drugs my child would be in their class you know and and
[speaker001:] well you know that's true and in teaching you don't get rid of a teacher very easy you know they'd be there
[speaker002:] that's right and and and teachers are very influential too