[speaker001:] and I guess the suggestion is that we maybe talk about a menu for a dinner party if we wanted to do something like that or share recipes or something um are you one who gives dinner parties very often
[speaker002:] yes uh-huh sure right no
[speaker001:] no nor am I uh
[speaker002:] I avoid them with all
[speaker001:] they're a lot of work that's for sure yes yes
[speaker002:] yeah they are I mean I do them but they're a lot of work I usually have them when I there's a special event in their lives and I I make a big deal out of it for them
[speaker001:] yeah uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh I think I'm uh most happiest with my most familiar foods that I know are successful
[speaker001:] yeah right yes
[speaker002:] you know and I have uh I make my own pies and pie crust and you know I can make my pies from scratch I don't need a recipe to follow and
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh that's great you sound like my mother who's been well I bake pies too but my mother was always the famous pie baker in the family and she has the same the same technique I mean I guess after so many years of doing it you just kind of do it second nature
[speaker002:] uh yeah you just know from heart I had one of the ladies at church that tasted my coconut cream pie and she said make me one and I made her one and when I when she gave me back the plate she said I didn't share this with anybody
[speaker001:] ah she enjoyed it huh well there's a a woman in our choir who is almost nearly famous for her apple pies and uh we had a
[speaker002:] and I thought whoa that was a big pie yes um um-hum
[speaker001:] a an auction one time at the church excuse me and uh one of her pies was auctioned for fifty dollars
[speaker002:] my word she must have a great pie recipe then
[speaker001:] well I I think I I I've had it once and it's been a few years ago but I do recall that it was quite good so um
[speaker002:] wonderful
[speaker001:] yeah so that is her specialty um I like to bake um also I don't bake so much now that my children are grown but I do enjoy baking and I guess I always liked making making um cookies and bars and things like that that was more my specialty I suppose and they seem to last longer than pies around here pies just would would go practically in a day's time yes
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum yeah you that's right yeah they're meant for the that evening dessert and you know it's got to be gone or daddy gets into the you know the leftovers and puts about two more inches on his waistline and then he is chastising himself afterwards
[speaker001:] right and not very happy huh well it's interesting that uh yesterday I had lunch with a friend and she was telling me that she had a dinner party over the weekend for friends of hers for um a
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] one of her acquaintances one of her old friends I guess had been in town and uh they invited two other couples over and so there were seven of them but uh I said well what did you have and she said what she had uh just Mexican food but you know she had uh uh you know guacamole and uh I can't remember all she had but she also had made uh flan which is actually Spanish I think have you ever made that or had it
[speaker002:] no I have not huh-uh
[speaker001:] it's it it it's um I had used to work with a a gentleman who was from Cuba who would make it uh and it's just a wonderful dessert it's like uh a egg custard in a uh caramelized sugar uh was on top of it and it's it's quite
[speaker002:] um-hum oh okay
[speaker001:] actually not very difficult to make but it's very very high in cholesterol I'm sure with all the eggs that are in it but uh
[speaker002:] sure yeah
[speaker001:] she said that she and her husband had uh traveled in Spain a couple of years ago and and flan is almost uh a basic with every meal that you get there
[speaker002:] like apple pie in America right uh-huh
[speaker001:] yeah uh-huh it's just very customary to get flan so if you ever run into that you'll you'll sort of be aware of what that's all about but uh I would never have thought of making that as part of a a Mexican dinner but
[speaker002:] wow um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] you know so papillas I guess would be another kind of a dessert if you decided to do something like that but flan is something you can make ahead and have just uh you know have ready but uh oh I would have been thinking I would like to have a dinner party sometime soon but
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] I tell you it that I my it's one of those things where it does require some real uh planning and it's you know you don't just make the dinner you have your house to clean and you know the the whole business that goes with that
[speaker002:] yes um-hum well when I have a dinner party that's my motivation for getting the house clean
[speaker001:] yeah probably a good way to do it oh the house needs cleaning I guess I better have a dinner party yeah
[speaker002:] yeah yeah we're catering a wedding um in August and uh this lady that is it at it's is at her house she's not a a good housekeeper so she's got to hire this crew
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh oh
[speaker002:] of four women to come in of two weeks prior to the wedding and get it ready yes and there you know she she must have found some jewels because they start in the corner and work out
[speaker001:] good heavens uh oh wow that's such a nice thing it's I you know until well we my husband and I've been married twenty six years and until last year I had never had another person clean my house and then I got so involved and so busy I said
[speaker002:] yeah so um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] this is one luxury I'm going to let myself have every now and then and so I had a woman come in uh once a month you know and which isn't very often but for me it was wonderful
[speaker002:] sure yeah that's nice you know to have that that's a luxury today
[speaker001:] well it is and it is it buys you time to do other things like have a dinner party so it's just a real gift of time as far as I am concerned but well um I better
[speaker002:] that's right yeah yeah um-hum I I have a pie crust that recipe that I that is unique that has vinegar and egg in it
[speaker001:] uh-huh I have heard about that but I've never tried it no um um well I should say I have heard of one that has vinegar in it I don't know that it has egg in it uh-huh uh-huh do you have it right on the top of your head
[speaker002:] have you okay egg and sugar um-hum um-hum um I no I think it would be too hazy because um the uh no I
[speaker001:] you don't have it yeah I would I
[speaker002:] well it's like the liquid is like a half of cup of water and then your egg and then your uh tablespoon of vinegar and you mix that together and then you you know your see it makes
[speaker001:] uh-huh right
[speaker002:] it makes uh five pie crusts at once so that's it's quite a volume of um
[speaker001:] uh quite large yeah right
[speaker002:] I think it's four cups of flour and like uh a tablespoon of salt and a tablespoon of sugar and and you combine your dry ingredients and then you uh put in your liquid
[speaker001:] uh-huh um-hum yeah um what is it about the uh the vinegar that uh makes the crust better
[speaker002:] it just it just makes it very pliable and and very flaky and you can really treat it rough and you're still going to have a flaky pie crust
[speaker001:] ah interesting yeah yeah boy that the that's the real secret um-hum
[speaker002:] like uh it's not mine it was from uh one of the magazines probably twenty years ago and it said you can throw this on the floor and step on it and it will still be flaky and I thought wow that's quite a statement for them to make
[speaker001:] oh that it makes me think of years ago um when I was visiting my mother-in-law in uh Michigan and she lived very near an apple orchard and we just had we could take as many apples as we wanted from it according you know according to the owners and so I decided to bake about four pies ahead you know and freeze them
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] well talk about working with big amounts of pie crust and having it be tough those were the toughest apple crust or apple uh pie crust that I have ever ever made it was just terrible I I could have used that recipe it sounds like
[speaker002:] oh wow wow well I'm from Michigan
[speaker001:] where about
[speaker002:] uh Detroit um-hum
[speaker001:] uh-huh well we lived in um Plymouth for four years um
[speaker002:] oh yeah that's real close
[speaker001:] yeah in fact I we were there from uh seventy three to seventy seven and I was I worked for the little the weekly newspaper there the the the Plymouth Plymouth um oh what was it called Crier and uh
[speaker002:] um-hum oh how neat
[speaker001:] my husband is from the upper peninsula so he was born and raised up there and that's where my mother-in-law still lives so uh are you originally from Michigan or uh-huh
[speaker002:] oh okay um-hum oh yes um-hum born in Detroit um-hum um
[speaker001:] I'll be darn and