[speaker001:] okay I've got a you know I have a real good method of starting to get the budget balanced again and that's get half of the government rid of the half the government payroll
[speaker002:] I think that would probably uh be very possible and and and we really wouldn't feel it in our services
[speaker001:] not all I you know I don't know if you've ever been to Washington DC
[speaker002:] yes I have
[speaker001:] uh you you've seen that which was on there and the offices and in light of these uh hearings we've all been sitting through the last two weeks we have very definitely decided that every department there is just overstaffed
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] they really don't have enough to keep them busy and keep their noses at in their own business and what they're doing and the other thing is uh
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] besides that I think uh two things that very definitely need looking at one is foreign aid I have a real problem with all the foreign aid that is going to the countries that really have no use for us I find that a total waste and part of the defense budget
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] uh again being just a voter voter and a taxpayer you know working through our congressman I don't think there's too much that I'm gonna be able to do about it but I believe in taking an active part in politics so
[speaker002:] yeah well I one one thing that really bothers me beyond beyond cutting what they spend is that just really aggravates me when the big businesses do not end up paying taxes and the um regular normal taxpayers are you know paying such a large proportion of of our personal income and then the uh corporate
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] yeah industries just don't seem to not pay proportionally
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I think that that would would help a lot I guess in a way it would trickle down to us in the prices of things but I don't know it's just hard to hard to take um you know see so much of our paycheck go out and then realize that they have all the loopholes that they can use
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh seems like some rather large chunks of money could come from from that direction
[speaker001:] yeah they don't they don't seem to well
[speaker002:] but
[speaker001:] I really think the biggest problem and then the Taft Rudman Act is supposed to help that the biggest part is they have no accountability for what they're doing
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I mean this nonsense that's coming through now about uh uh lowering payments on Social Security and a few other things that Bush has in mind in order to to boost the economy because people have no more money is it's it it's ridiculous
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] if they don't have that money now bringing in less is not gonna help the problem as far as the government
[speaker002:] not not gonna help it's never never helped my my personal situation I I can't say it would help theirs either
[speaker001:] no yeah and thank God we don't operate our budget the way they operate theirs or we'd all be in in dire trouble
[speaker002:] we're we're being serious
[speaker001:] but that's uh yeah I don't know what we're gonna be able to do about it but I guess it's been around so long that it's sort of like our mortgages I don't ever expect to pay mine off before I die so I guess why should the government try
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] isn't that's the way they're thinking these days anyway
[speaker002:] it seems seems to be I you know I it really does bother me when I think about you know leaving our children with with this sort of uh a national problem that we can't seem to find an an answer to it I I don't know
[speaker001:] I I don't think it ever will really I maybe if they ever get to the point the biggest you know the biggest outlaid expense has always been either wars or defense
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] really if they were to take half of what they spend on that and put it on some economic you know intergovernmental intergovernmental or inter-United States type programs that I wouldn't really mind I
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I believe in paying my share and I don't mind uh paying for some of these fringe benefits that people are entitled to but I just I just sometimes feel like I'm being used but uh again I don't think we'll be able to do anything about it so
[speaker002:] well that that's quite possible I guess we have to have to keep plugging away a little bit or it'll just totally get even more out of control but I I don't know
[speaker001:] yeah bite the bullet it sounds like you have a baby there
[speaker002:] yeah I I do she's a we're not feeling too well over here so that yeah
[speaker001:] yeah oh really oh that's a shame she's not the one going to Washington huh
[speaker002:] no no she's I don't think I could part with her
[speaker001:] oh okay okay Jerry
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] we've probably been on long enough they didn't cut us off but I think that'll probably do it so it was nice talking to you
[speaker002:] okay well thanks bye bye
[speaker001:] okeydoke bye-bye