[speaker001:] okay we can start
[speaker002:] okay hi
[speaker001:] hi
[speaker002:] how many children do you have
[speaker001:] I have four
[speaker002:] oh four okay okay well I have two children and uh
[speaker001:] how many do you have
[speaker002:] two stepdaughters so we have four altogether too
[speaker001:] okay okay
[speaker002:] yeah are you are you running ragged these days
[speaker001:] well no because mine are all grown
[speaker002:] oh they are oh
[speaker001:] so the topic for me I I can only rerate relate now to my grandchildren
[speaker002:] oh well good impart me some wisdom Catherine
[speaker001:] I do keep my uh I do take care of my youngest granddaughter uh most every Saturday uh my daughter and her husband work Saturdays my daughter is uh uh doing a schedule of uh twenty four hours on the weekend but she gets paid for forty
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and Dave is uh in supervisory work and he has to work almost every Saturday so
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] how old is your granddaughter
[speaker001:] she's three
[speaker002:] oh so she's a little one yeah yeah yeah
[speaker001:] yes she's she's little she's says how are you doing grandma today
[speaker002:] oh are you surviving is she oldest your oldest granddaughter child
[speaker001:] whoa oh no no no no she's my baby
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] she's my baby yeah she was a miracle baby
[speaker002:] oh was she yeah oh oh that's nice now do your other grandchildren live in Dallas the Dallas area do you get to see them how nice what a treat you know being from Plano
[speaker001:] yeah she really was uh-huh yeah yes they do uh-huh they really do uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know I know so very few people who have extended family in town I'm real jealous when I hear that somebody has a grandma around because we don't and
[speaker001:] oh yeah that's really that's really wonderful
[speaker002:] it is it is and you know just so that they get to know their grandparents but also
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] for help we don't we don't have that luxury but we have lots of friends and and everybody tends to be in the same boat so we trade we trade off a whole lot with friends and you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] run here and run there we're right smack dab in the middle of baseball season right now and we have three playing baseball
[speaker001:] oh that's marvelous well they keep you hopping I'm sure
[speaker002:] so they definitely do
[speaker001:] well I know um that uh one of the ladies I know they are very involved with their little girl and and I think it's excellent because she's getting qualified quality time
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] for um her musical uh talents her sports abilities
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh I think because she is um the only child that they concentrate uh they would like to have more but that hasn't been um possible
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh she's tried many uh avenues and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so now it's just you know that she's kind of resolved herself that yes this is going to be the only one
[speaker002:] yeah and she devotes yeah
[speaker001:] and and they're focusing on all of her uh welfare
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh yeah well our kids you know um my daughter sings uh sings with Younger Generation I don't know if you've ever heard of them there they're a singing group here in Plano
[speaker001:] oh okay
[speaker002:] and they're part of the children uh Plano Children's Civics Civic Chorus
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and they're going to Washington DC next December uh to sing for President Bush at the White House at Christmas time isn't that neat yeah so so we have been really up to our eye balls in fund raising and trying to get uh
[speaker001:] oh how wonderful that's wonderful well that's wonderful
[speaker002:] yeah it is it is so you know and then she plays softball and my son plays baseball and my stepdaughter plays softball so we we tend to do a lot of running things are very different nowadays than when I grew up and I'm sure when your children grew up you didn't
[speaker001:] oh they are
[speaker002:] uh you know I don't remember doing all these things I certainly don't remember my parents
[speaker001:] no
[speaker002:] running me here and there and supporting me in all these things but we had more I guess family time alone where we did nothing which was good
[speaker001:] yeah you're now I think everything everything is doing doing doing out of the house which can be very hectic
[speaker002:] yeah yeah it can be and and sometimes I uh you know I kind of long for the good old days when we didn't do all these running but on the other hand
[speaker001:] yeah it wasn't so hectic
[speaker002:] we just love watching the kids play and getting to know the other parents and we've had a lot of fun with that too
[speaker001:] um-hum you have to look on that on the uh positive side of that
[speaker002:] it's just different
[speaker001:] yes it is it's just a different lifestyle yes
[speaker002:] yeah it's just very different yeah yeah
[speaker001:] uh my my uh second grandson is an a cappella and I know what you're talking about when he's involved you know the children are involved in that and he's been he has traveled and they have won awards so I know yes uh-huh and I know where you're coming from and it's it's very nice
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh really yeah yeah it is very nice
[speaker001:] I think um uh those type of children um that are involved in things like that their uh goals are going to be set higher than the average child that are not participating in things
[speaker002:] well I think so and and I think they've learned a whole lot about being part of a team whether the team is your singing group your band your your sports team
[speaker001:] right going to
[speaker002:] you know you all have to pull together and uh
[speaker001:] yes on of a team effort yes to
[speaker002:] yeah and so I've been real pleased with that too I think they've learned some real good life skills um you know being involved in all those things and uh yeah
[speaker001:] that's that's wonderful that's really is nice to have in your background that you know then you can you're you can be very flexible
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and um there's less uh friction involved in relationships when you add that skill
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] of teamwork and uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I mean a lot of people that are adults are having to go back and learn those basics when our children are already learning that
[speaker002:] yes yes
[speaker001:] and I think it's a step uh a giant step of progress I really do
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] so um I
[speaker002:] give me some wonderful advice Catherine what is the best advice of mothering that you know besides don't sweat the small stuff
[speaker001:] the best of well uh Cathy I think if you look to the Word of God
[speaker002:] um-hum oh that's good that's real good advice
[speaker001:] and uh think on the things that are pure and lovely and uh keep your mind off of negative things
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and keep your mind on positive things and and stress that to your children and uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] even if they're even if they're discouraged tell them that that's just a passing moment
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and to dwell on those things that are uh not negative and that are positive things things in their life and I think you'll see a lot of growth in uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] in their ability to uh control their thought pattern and and when you employ the Word of God there's nothing as powerful as the Word of God
[speaker002:] absolutely well I would agree with that we're also real active in our church and my kids do an awful lot with that Allyson sings in the choir I told her that's a gift from God and you need to return that back
[speaker001:] oh absolutely that's right
[speaker002:] and you owe you owe that back to God because he's given you that ability and that talent and and that's real nice I I'm real proud of her I'm equally proud of her when I see her in church as I am when I see her performing you know that's that's real neat
[speaker001:] um-hum right well if she looks yeah if she looks at it as you suggest that that that's that she can give her her her talent back to the Lord for His glory and she can look at it that way and and uh that's beautiful
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but there's nothing stronger than the Word of God