[speaker001:] Mark I was wondering if you had any uh what do what do you like to do in your spare time
[speaker002:] uh I like to play my guitar a lot and uh I I do a little bit of uh wood working out in the garage a lot
[speaker001:] really have you had lessons guitar lessons
[speaker002:] uh not really very formal I I took uh some classical guitar lessons from my church once but they weren't very good
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh so I didn't really learn much from that I I generally learn how to play songs just by ear I I listen to it and and figure it out myself and then go from there
[speaker001:] huh well have you ever wanted to play in a band
[speaker002:] yeah I was I was in several bands when I was some what younger and then I just kind of got tired of it because they were all a little pig headed and self centered didn't care about anybody else but themselves
[speaker001:] well and bad hours too
[speaker002:] yeah yeah that too
[speaker001:] huh well I um I like to play the piano I mean I like to dabble in it I don't play very well but uh I wouldn't say that was a hobby so much as um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I usually you know I do some crafts and things but mostly out of necessity like if it's Christmas time or a birthday or uh we bought a house not too long ago and I needed some decorations and things for the walls and so I've done some
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] um crafts and things to hang up but I don't do it I don't think so much out of enjoyment now do you do your woodworking for enjoyment
[speaker002:] yeah um yeah I I usually do my wood working for stuff that I want and for just so that I don't have to you know it's it's cheaper to to build it yourself than it is to go out and buy it from a furniture store
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] so I I I do it for monetary and personal enjoyment it's it's it's it's an accomplishment to finish something that you that you made by yourself
[speaker001:] yeah that's true is is it one of those uh things that you have to have expensive equipment for
[speaker002:] um it really depends on what you're making uh if if you're making a piece of furniture yeah you'd generally need a a good you know table saw and everything uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] if it's just some little old knickknack or something you can usually get away with a like a hand held saw or something like that
[speaker001:] um-hum hum
[speaker002:] but uh it's a it's a lot of fun you just you have to be careful so you don't like go lopping your fingers off or anything
[speaker001:] sounds like it
[speaker002:] my my dad's gotten into the to the the wood working stuff here lately and he's trying to make a a uh jewelry box for my grandmother for Christmas and uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] he didn't get it finished because he kept screwing up the lid for it but uh he uh he doesn't know all the the safety rules and everything so I had to kind of keep him from taking off a finger or two and there's a couple of things he's done that I've like near had nearly had a heart attack over it's like Dad you're doing it wrong
[speaker001:] that's awful
[speaker002:] you're gonna hurt yourself yeah but uh
[speaker001:] that's pretty funny well I uh since my kids started to school um they have to have costumes it seems like every little bit they have like a pirate day and a Pilgrim feast and things and so I've done some
[speaker002:] yeah and Halloween and
[speaker001:] right so I've done some sewing and things but uh you know to meet the demands of all these costumes but um and I enjoy it in a way but um it seems like we keep busy you know at work and at school and I volunteer a lot of places so that in my spare time I like to rest and read
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I I work I work out of the I work at a Renaissance festival down in Waxahachie and uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I have to make my own costume for that out there and uh
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] it uh tries your patience sometimes because the the patterns aren't always the best things in the world they they draw you a pattern on a on a a piece of paper and you're supposed to like you know figure out all the dimensions and everything yourself and
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] kind of helps if you can either get somebody else to do it or find somebody else that already has a good pattern and just copy it
[speaker001:] well and there's a lot of people that enjoy sewing
[speaker002:] yeah like my mom sew has sewn for years and years and years and years and years
[speaker001:] hum but I have um you know done some knitting and some other crafts like that but not um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know not so much because it's all so expensive to go and collect all of the material and then the tools you need
[speaker002:] yeah yeah one one one thing that is a lot of fun is to do calligraphy
[speaker001:] uh-huh I like that
[speaker002:] I I took a couple classes in when I was in high school and stuff like that it's it's a lot of fun and it's fairly inexpensive you go out and get you two dollar pen that lasts forever and
[speaker001:] um-hum and it's right and it's functional so that you're always needing you know it's nice to do your Christmas cards
[speaker002:] yeah you can do it yourself do your Christmas cards and invitations and things like that
[speaker001:] yeah sounds good
[speaker002:] or even something you just wanna frame and stick on your wall
[speaker001:] yep that's right we have enjoyed that seems like um we've done a lot too well has it has it been snowing that way wherever you are
[speaker002:] uh I I live in Richardson just outside of Dallas it snowed snowed just
[speaker001:] um-hum