[speaker001:] okay Nancy what do you think about drug testing
[speaker002:] I'm all for it
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] because I I think if you don't do it you don't have anything to worry about it
[speaker001:] all right
[speaker002:] and I don't do drugs so I never worry about it and I I think it's a I think it's a good idea I I even think the random is fine you know you shouldn't do it and that's in a nutshell and I think you know I say if you if you don't do it you really really don't have to worry it
[speaker001:] yeah yeah do you feel that see I don't know what questions to ask because I'm I agree with you and I was hoping to find someone that disagreed so I could so I I could fire questions at them
[speaker002:] well I you just uh like I say I just think it's a a fine idea and I the companies that I've heard that had a random testing I think it's a great idea uh where I work they don't
[speaker001:] but
[speaker002:] do random testing and uh now when I hired in I had to have a uh a drug test which was fine with me I I wasn't worried at all about that but and then I think that's perfectly I don't think it's infringing on your rights or I think the company has a right to have employees that are drug free
[speaker001:] right what do you think company should do if they find someone that tests positive
[speaker002:] well I guess I'd give them I'd give them one chance maybe I I don't know person I'd fire if it was my company I'd fire them right then but not you know in today's society you can't do that yeah I guess you guess have to give them a a warning and then then the second time they'd be terminated
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] if they tested positive and I really would watch them after that but uh
[speaker001:] would you help them get into a drug rehab program
[speaker002:] I'd probably send them on a EAT program you know Employee Assistance Program I'd I'd make them go through that and uh the first time they'd have to go through the EAT program and I think most companies have those now I think they have it must be a law or something because awful lot of companies have them and I'd make them do that
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and if they refused to do that then they'd be fired way I'd do it what would you do
[speaker001:] uh probably about the same thing just uh give them a chance you know with a positive have them sit down with their boss and their boss's boss and uh you know just talk with them about what happened what the problem was possibility there's a possibility that uh you know you've got to give somebody a benefit of the doubt because everybody would probably say oh well that's just you know I just tried it once to see what it'd be like
[speaker002:] yeah or maybe it's a my antihistamine I was on that you know tested positive I I don't do it you know you never know if they're telling the truth or not
[speaker001:] yeah so you pretty much got to give everybody one shot
[speaker002:] second chance yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and then after that you might want to and and if they admit to having a problem or something you know I would help them out as as long as they wanted help and would stay in the program I'd you know help them out
[speaker002:] yeah right right but if they flat refused you know and said no I won't then I'd say well then I'm sorry then you can't say we're not going to have druggies in our payroll the way I'd look at it
[speaker001:] yeah right
[speaker002:] fortunately I've never had to worry about that since I I have never even tried uh a puff or whatever it uh you know and if somebody gave me a thousand dollars and said Nancy go by some dope I wouldn't even know where to go buy it I'm sure you can at any high school or any street corner they tell me but I don't know
[speaker001:] yeah what if along a similar topic straying from the drug thing what about what do you think about AIDS testing for uh say you're a physician and uh a patient comes in and wants treated should you have the right to test them for AIDS
[speaker002:] uh I guess if he suspected sure I wouldn't because if I was a physician I wouldn't want to test them I mean I wouldn't want to treat them for fear that they would you know I I'd get that but
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I think if if you suspect it and I'm sure a doctor can look at somebody and suspect don't you think by looking at them
[speaker001:] in advanced cases yes
[speaker002:] yeah not probably not at the first I don't know
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I don't know if you if they have the right or not I never had never really thought of that
[speaker001:] see that's a question I'm wondering because I'm pursuing a career in medicine
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and you know they're deciding that in the courts you know as I'm continuing my education
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so it would you know by the time I get out and begin practicing then I don't know you you know or could be either way I would definitely want to know if these people have AIDS I mean I'm the
[speaker002:] you're right oh I would too absolutely absolutely I just don't uh
[speaker001:] but and
[speaker002:] and I would if I were a doctor I wouldn't I I don't think it's anything wrong for a doctor to refuse to I don't care about the Hippocratic oath I don't think they should have to treat a patient with AIDS if they don't want to you know why take a chance like that doctor in New York that got infected from a patient and you know she ended up I think she died I don't remember if she died or not but she's suing that hospital because uh she was working with uh with a AIDS patient that got them so I I don't know I don't think I would uh
[speaker001:] that's
[speaker002:] treat one
[speaker001:] it's such a tough issue I I just wanted to throw that out to you to make the conversation a little more interesting because since we both agree it's kind of hard to
[speaker002:] you're isn't that totally boring oh me well uh no I like I say I've only been tested the one time when I hired in uh I had was tested for drugs and of course they do everybody you can't work where I work unless you're tested for it and so that you know and that was fine with me but they make you do all the sealing you know you you have to do everything yourself they're not allowed to seal them or
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] tag them or anything you you do it all yourself they tell you what to do but you do it all yourself
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] so if there's a mistake it's your mistake I guess
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I don't know
[speaker001:] uh you work for TI
[speaker002:] no I did years ago for seventeen years I worked uh in Fort Worth at a a landing gear company Menasco
[speaker001:] oh oh
[speaker002:] and uh love it just love it I wish I'd f ound this company twenty years ago but
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] so I started out at TI years ago my daughter works at TI
[speaker001:] is that how you got on the
[speaker002:] yeah because she was on it and she how did you get on it
[speaker001:] phone program my wife works for TI yeah
[speaker002:] oh does she yeah I liked TI I loved it I quit quit back in eighty five uh and went with Martin Marietta down in Orlando and just hated Orlando Orlando just oh yeah just hated it couldn't wait to get back and it took me about almost four years to get back but I made it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and but I've almost doubled my salary since leaving TI now that's how bad TI pays I have almost doubled my salary I really have and I
[speaker001:] yeah wow
[speaker002:] uh but I love TI I really I really enjoyed working there and uh but you know it wasn't to be anymore
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] had to move on but uh yeah they you know I know they do the random testing at TI and I I I don't see anything wrong with that if you know if they I don't even know they don't even have to do it on suspicion they can they can just do it and uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and they do it quite often I understand and I don't blame them at all I mean
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] their company and you're a danger to people if you're on drugs and I think you're a danger to to people that you work with and then they have too much sophisticated equipment out there to have somebody out you know doped up working around it I think
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] so uh and I understand that they even if even if you see somebody off you know away from work using drugs
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] that you can come back and and rat on them and they'll get them that way if you see them at a party to you know doing dope you can go back to work and tell on them
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] is what I've understand I've heard
[speaker001:] well it's pretty serious
[speaker002:] yeah it is they're they're cracking down on them but uh that's good you know somebody needs to get tough on these guys you know and you know and they take them to court and then they just slap them on the hand and let them the dealers out and you know I just makes me sick I that's why we have so much crime I know it's because of dope
[speaker001:] yeah a lot of it is for sure
[speaker002:] I know when I was growing up you could sleep with your windows open well even my kids were growing up we didn't lock our house at night we just went to bed you know and left the doors open the windows open you could walk take walks at night you can't do that anymore
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] and I think most of it's drug related most of the crime that we have is drug related and uh I I don't I don't think my children have ever if they did I didn't know it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but I know they've never been on it if they ever tried it I didn't know it and because my son was a athlete and athletes normally can't don't do it because they're you know they have to stay in shape my daughter my daughter just wasn't the type she just didn't care for stuff like that and neither one of them smoked cigarettes either so that's that's
[speaker001:] right well that's good
[speaker002:] yeah I really is I did when they were growing up and I think that's why they don't because I did and I quit about ten years ago and it was the smartest thing I ever did
[speaker001:] yeah good
[speaker002:] took shots from a doctor in Richardson and haven't had a puff since
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] she gave shots in the nose and in the ears and in the arm six shots and that's it never smoked again
[speaker001:] wow
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] well that's good
[speaker002:] yeah I'm real proud of myself
[speaker001:] well Nancy it's been good talking to you
[speaker002:] good nice talking to you if I can will um good luck on it
[speaker001:] well thank you and uh I guess I'll brace myself for a heavy storm coming my way
[speaker002:] oh you you please do
[speaker001:] all righty
[speaker002:] talk to you bye-bye
[speaker001:] bye