[speaker001:] Okay. Do you work?
[speaker002:] Yes, I do.
[speaker001:] I think that's the main change. What do you think?
[speaker002:] Well, I think that's a big part of it and I, I think it maybe started because women wanted outside of the home and,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] I almost think with our society and, and inflation and the cost of things it's anymore it's almost couples have to work outside the home.
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] But, but yeah, I think that's a big change [lipsmack]. I'd like to not work. What about you?
[speaker001:] Well, I've worked all the time up until just about a year ago.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And I just, physically I wasn't able to and I mean, I love my job.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But I have four children, and that's real hard.
[speaker002:] [Gasp].
[speaker001:] You have children? I assume so.
[speaker002:] Yes. I have two and that's been a big deciding factor because I mean I never wanted to be a career woman,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] but as long as I wa-, w-, you know, was going to work I was going to do as, as much as I could,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] as well as I could et cetera.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] And I, I wanted to stay home when I had kids. Well, I have two. I have a four year old and a three year old.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] And we would like two more but I, it's like, we talked. Uh, I don't want two more unless I can quit and stay home and take care,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] of them which is,
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] something right now financially it takes both people to work.
[speaker001:] It's real hard.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] It's real hard. I mean even I,
[speaker002:] It's full time work.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] It was so hard for me to work full time.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Of course, my kids are, are a little older but then you, then you give up the money.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] You know?
[speaker002:] You do there's sa-, of course, you know, everything you give up something but I just, I, the kids are so wonderful [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah. .
[speaker002:] But I do think that's one of the major changes. {D You know, } my mama I remember her being home
[speaker001:] Yep.
[speaker002:] uh,
[speaker001:] Fine.
[speaker002:] you know, she made breakfast in the morning for us.
[speaker001:] Yep. I know.
[speaker002:] And if she worked it was part time and it was work that was done while we were maybe at school, and she was there when we got home.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] You know, and,
[speaker001:] Well, I've decided now in fact, I'm just, I'm substitute teachers aid which is a, afar cry from my travel agent career,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] y-, which I loved. But I'm, I'm there in the same school as my children, my two littler ones.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And I'm home when they are home. In fact, I've had an offer to just work the Christmas season at a local jewelry store, and I'm just really hesitating,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] because I've, I enjoyed my, the first summer home ever,
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] so like seventeen years with my kids.
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] I mean, well, I didn't have babies or day care or working as a travel agent and it was wonderful.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] My kids and I, we just had a ball.
[speaker002:] See, and I think,
[speaker001:] Of course, their, their ages, they are almost seventeen
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] fif-, almo-, well, sixteen, fourteen, eleven, and nine [NOISE]
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] and we are just running every direction and,
[speaker002:] But see, it's such an important time to be home.
[speaker001:] It is.
[speaker002:] You know. And that,
[speaker001:] It is.
[speaker002:] was important to me enough, you know, my husband was raised, uh, his, his parents were divorced when he was young so his mom always worked,
[speaker001:] Always worked.
[speaker002:] and he's like well, you know, what's the big deal about being home,
[speaker001:] What, yeah.
[speaker002:] for your kids. Well, as our kids are getting older, you know, he sees it more. I said, Russ, you don't understand what it was like to have her home or to if you needed,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Mom at school, you know, she was there to help or,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] she was there to take you, and, and I want to be able to do those things so.
[speaker001:] I think that, you know, it's good. You know, sometimes I'll have the cookies ready when they,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] come home and, and a lot of my boys, uh, my older boys' junior high friends will come over. In fact, everyday,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I've got boys hanging around, and it's wonderful [NOISE]. I'm real close to the schools and, you know, we are just I, I'm very happy to be staying home.
[speaker002:] I think that's wonderful.
[speaker001:] But again I miss,
[speaker002:] So, where do you see,
[speaker001:] the.
[speaker002:] us changing in the future?
[speaker001:] I don't.
[speaker002:] Well, see that was one of the things s-, the, the question I think is,
[speaker001:] I keep on working. Right.
[speaker002:] you know, what changes do we see and I'm, I'm not sure I, I see it go anywhere. I think they are still going to have to work.
[speaker001:] That we are because it's so expensive. If we want, uh, extra clothes, the extra car, the extra,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] The thing is, when a woman does work, then there is the clothes to buy,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and then there is the gas,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and then there is the lunches and then the day care.
[speaker002:] The day care eats,
[speaker001:] You must pay for,
[speaker002:] me alive.
[speaker001:] day care. Yeah.
[speaker002:] You know, I pay four hundred fifty to five hundred fifty,
[speaker001:] Oh
[speaker002:] a month
[speaker001:] my gosh.
[speaker002:] for two kids [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah, for two.
[speaker002:] They would eat you,
[speaker001:] It's almost hardly worth it for you,
[speaker002:] alive.
[speaker001:] to work until they get in school.
[speaker002:] I know.
[speaker001:] Then you work summers unless you are a teacher. Are you a teacher?
[speaker002:] No, I'm not,
[speaker001:] .
[speaker002:] and I would love, you, you, you talked about having the summers off and I thought, oh, that would be so wonderful.
[speaker001:] .
[speaker002:] And I love the little preschool they are in. It's wonderful.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] You know, so I feel good about them being there but it's still not the same.
[speaker001:] No. It's not the same.
[speaker002:] It's just not.
[speaker001:] I, I don't see things changing really, and, and it's terrible for divorced women
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] you know, who are forced to work who maybe don't have a college education. Thank goodness I have mine, and I could get a real good paying job,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] if I wanted to, you know, d-, in fact, I still have offers, you know, please come back,
[speaker002:] Please come back to work.
[speaker001:] and we'll pay you this.
[speaker002:] Sure.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah. And it's been a real tough decision but I'm very happy to be here with my kids. My kids, we've seen a remarkable difference in,
[speaker002:] That's wonderful.
[speaker001:] now that I'm home.
[speaker002:] That's wonderful.
[speaker001:] Yeah. I'm real, and I'm, but I've been doing a lot of volunteering at the schools and playing lots of tennis [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] I like that.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah. I know.
[speaker002:] Well, we're working on it. I'm hoping in about three to five years I'll be able to stay home and my kids, of course, will be in school then but I'll,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] be there mornings, I'll be there noons,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I'll be there afternoons and all. I feel like,
[speaker001:] Well,
[speaker002:] that's good and I can work part days in my husband's business, you know, so that,
[speaker001:] Oh, that would be great.
[speaker002:] he can afford for us to do that, you know.
[speaker001:] Right. I think the, the other thing that, that has changed for woman because we are working is we are having less children.