[speaker001:] okay well we're official now yeah
[speaker002:] um yes yeah it's um it's very hot in fact I've been cleaning because I live in an apartment so I can't do very much gardening other than balcony gardening
[speaker001:] oh okay oh yeah
[speaker002:] um you know I have the little flower boxes with um a variety a lot of different flowers and I do enjoy plants but I don't have a yard or anything that I can do gardening really
[speaker001:] oh you're you're you're not the so-called expert you need a house I guess to go through all of that I have had a couple of houses and uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh the only recommendation I would have for someone who hasn't gardened is uh one get a couple of good books of books of course and usually they have talk shows here in Dallas they have
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker001:] two great uh talk shows that go through everything that will grow here which is the opposite probably of what would grow up where you are you know so
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] uh in fact you you could easily do that now listen to turn on a talk show up there and see if there there's got to be some gardening folks on the radio that says when to put your grass in and and what kind of grass to grow up in Virginia and everything so I uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh yes um-hum
[speaker001:] for someone who doesn't garden I'd say that that's my biggest recommendation is to
[speaker002:] uh-huh so you enjoy gardening
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah I like it a lot uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh it's a lot of work I'm an engineer I'm I'm with TI you are you with TI up there or okay
[speaker002:] no no I'm with a defense contractor
[speaker001:] okay um where was oh yeah no I I like it I uh I always know that why I'm not a farmer when I garden though I mean it is dog work and it is tough
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] I have a lot of trees down here uh the part I don't like I guess would be from December through February where you have to rake leaves
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] forever it seems like and the wind blows all the leaves on from your neighbor after you rake yours so
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] other than that you know those three months when it's pure dog work
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh the rest of it's very enjoyable just going through the experiences of of putting little plants in or whatever I I haven't had to plant any trees because I've got so many but uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh but I do listen to that talk show there there is some great people from Texas A&M I don't know uh maybe you've heard of A&M down here but there's some great uh folks uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] that have been well trained and again uh to to uh recommend gardening for this area
[speaker002:] um yeah I'm sure it is you know different in the different areas um I'm originally from Pennsylvania and I do go home on weekends during the summer and that and uh mow my mother's grass and different things like that
[speaker001:] yeah you probably have rye grass up there we grow bermuda and Saint Augustine here
[speaker002:] oh I would have no idea no idea whatsoever
[speaker001:] right yeah see you would have to learn that though see
[speaker002:] like I said I'm just a balcony kind of gardener with my little flowers and my flower boxes and my herbs on my window sill and
[speaker001:] um do you have much luck in the Winter don't they they're freeze it freeze out because the roots are all in the Winter uh or do you have to start all over every year
[speaker002:] yeah I have to start all over every year well except I do have some um
[speaker001:] right yeah
[speaker002:] some day lilies that um
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know I don't do anything with and they seem to come back year after year and I leave them on my balcony even in
[speaker001:] in the same pot that's that's amazing
[speaker002:] in the snow and the winter you know in the ice everything because here you know not as severe as the snow is in Pennsylvania but here we still do get some snow and ice and things like that
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah I grow a few things in pots but we have to bring them in here
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] in the Winter because usually uh if it's not below the ground so you can insulate the roots from freezing you know the pots will uh will die everything in a pot will die
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] so you can bring them well we do bring stuff in the garage and everything
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but uh it's quite time consuming by the way I don't know how close you are to getting a house or anything but it's quite uh but I would definitely do it I'm all for doing everything whether whatever subject you pick uh do it the knowledgeable way
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] don't go out there and start digging holes uh
[speaker002:] right right I agree with that
[speaker001:] get some books of whether it be Pennsylvania or Virginia
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] as as well as uh not your neighbors of course they usually know nothing but uh uh listen to still then there's always a gardening part of the newspaper for communications
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] as well as I bet there's a talk show up there right now that you if you turn the dial around you'll on Saturday this is Saturday that you'll find someone probably in the morning I don't know
[speaker002:] uh-huh  um-hum
[speaker001:] discussing you know what we do up in Virginia to get something growing you probably don't have to do much over there the soil's probably so good
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] our soil's not very good down here we're
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I guess in the ice age it it it's pushed a lot of uh limestone and everything some parts of Dallas you just can dig a foot down and you hit solid limestone you know
[speaker002:] wow uh-huh
[speaker001:] so uh I think all the trees that are here now were planted kind of like the Johnny Appleseed type trees where people have come from I'm sure when the Indians were here there was nothing growing in this part of of Dallas it's so scrubby
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh and I think that we even got our famous hundred year old uh pecan trees from Alabama and all that too
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] we we call them native pecan trees but they grow wild here they're eating pecans though pecans are probably not taken from Virginia they're probably only in the South
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh right I'm
[speaker001:] for pecan pie and all that it's what they call pecan pecan pie up there in in the East
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I'm from Pennsylvania and New Jersey I'm from New Jersey originally
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh you don't sound like it
[speaker001:] I've worked on that with some chewing gum which I shouldn't do
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] um go ahead you what how many times you called by the way or how many times have you been called
[speaker002:] um I've been called a lot at the times though it's been not very appropriate I guess that I haven't been able to actually participate I've participated probably in about maybe I don't know seven calls
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and you know I've called a couple of times but most of the time I notice that um you know it takes forever to get a call through
[speaker001:] oh yeah today that's what I'm saying today I was I got to laugh because I tried it this morning and uh I thought everybody was gardening I thought well no no this is a great subject because they're out there gardening you know
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] I didn't tell you what our weather is like it is beautiful here today
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah it's like eighty five degrees here
[speaker001:] it's not quite that hot yeah we've had a real nice mild Spring uh you might have seen if you've seen the news today about all the tornados here that were north of us
[speaker002:] no I haven't
[speaker001:] uh I don't know if you get CNN I don't get CNN but it's here at work in fact I'm at work today believe it or not
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] but uh they have uh TV's in the break areas
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and there was some some heavy tornados uh I guess in Kansas quite a few people were killed you'll see that on the evening news
[speaker002:] oh my uh-huh I'll have to make sure I catch that
[speaker001:] uh tornados uh which is not the right subject but uh they blow through here all in the Spring I guess it's related somewhat to the weather you know and and the plants and all that that uh sometimes they do essentially nothing
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and the weather men yesterday were all alert say hey there's something really terrible going to happen and they they sure were right but it wasn't in Texas it was
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] north of us yeah look at the news tonight they'll they'll they claim thirty odd people were killed up in Kansas City Kansas somewhere
[speaker002:] I'll have to make sure I catch that uh uh-huh
[speaker001:] anyway back to planting uh I have never studied it is very interesting uh subject uh when you when did you get a house uh you your trees grow up so well up there but I'm sure you have plenty of trees
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] that that is a key thing for shade
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and keeping your bills down uh I guess you have mostly pine trees but where in Virginia are you all
[speaker002:] um right now the District Washington um in Fairfax Virginia it's fifteen miles west of Washington DC
[speaker001:] um-hum oh do you have the cherry blossoms and everything there or not
[speaker002:] yeah there's there's a few not you know nearly as many as what's actually in the District but um they're definitely enjoyable right now I know the azaleas and everything are out are beautiful
[speaker001:] yeah oh yeah yeah azaleas grow all over we grow those here too although again we have to prepare the soil
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you probably have nice big pine you probably have all kinds of trees the oaks and everything that's one thing I noticed about
[speaker002:] yeah there there there is a vast variety here of you know trees like if I look out my window right now I can see you know couple of pine trees some oak trees
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] have you ever been down here
[speaker002:] um no actually I haven't
[speaker001:] okay it's it's interesting country uh it is wide open uh and flat
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh and again as I said I think the when the Indians were here there there weren't any trees but the the civilization has brought all kinds of experiments with all kinds of trees and uh a lot of them have done well uh they they do have some pine forest areas in west in west in east Texas where you have native pine trees but here in Dallas it's uh
[speaker002:] um-hum  uh-huh
[speaker001:] I think they all were planted by the classical Johnny Appleseed and uh uh Johnny Pecanseed whatever you would call it you know because there's a tremendous amount of pecan trees that we use for you know uh for eating
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker001:] I think they thought that was going to be a great boom crop uh hundred and fifty years ago because they are all over the place
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] in the South what else
[speaker002:] um oh well I guess that I really don't know that much
[speaker001:] how many how many subject I I the subjects are usually pretty interesting I I'm I'm of course I'm a TI'er so I'm hoping this works TI is very good uh has done a lot of experiments in the speech uh synthesis synthesis can't say it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and they've come out with some new products uh some new in fact this week they came out with some new math uh you might see them in your advertisements uh new math uh Speak and Math uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh devices they they have had Speak and Spell and all that for years but they've come out with some different ones
[speaker002:] right uh-huh
[speaker001:] this past week and uh my wife and everyone ask me what what are they going to accomplish out of all this and I said well you're not going to have to type on the computer one day you're just going to have to talk to it
[speaker002:] right uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know so you it's going to be much faster of course you know the classical thing for the handicapped too person who can't type very fast or
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] like I can of course
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh not that I can talk very fast either but uh
[speaker002:] um-hum but then what about people that um I I I personally work with someone that that is deaf and cannot speak she can speak but she can't speak very clearly and she in fact is a data entry person I mean she types away all day
[speaker001:] yeah