[speaker001:] well how would you rate it
[speaker002:] uh well I'm kind of in the middle I lived in the Ozarks for a long time where a lot of people do a lot of hunting and uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] now I live in Dallas where there's a lot of crime and I'm all for uh the average Joe being able to have a gun but then again I'm not you know as far as this seven day law and all this stuff for two weeks or whatever I'm all for that too I don't think anybody needs to be able to go buy a gun right away
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] if you want a gun for a legitimate purpose you should be willing to wait long enough for someone to verify that you're not a
[speaker001:] yeah that's true yeah that that's true I'm I'm kind of like you you know I don't I'm kind of in between but I I'd rather not rate it at all because I think it's very site specific
[speaker002:] a potential criminal yeah and I I don't think you know I think it's one of the constitutional rights that is important and you know we we should be allowed to have guns
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I don't think they should turn around and say you know the government says you can't have a gun because that just I don't know
[speaker001:] right it doesn't make sense if if you can govern yourself
[speaker002:] any any any country where they've ever revolted you know it takes guns to revolt and sure we don't need to but uh never know there might come a time so
[speaker001:] yeah well I think you know it's like you're saying is you know were in in places in communities where hunting is common yeah you can't ban guns there it's not it's kind of impossible it's a way of life for people but uh in in cities I think there there may be a possibility for certain law restricting firearms in certain areas maybe not the ownership of such but it's restricting the you know the the uh presence of of hand guns in certain areas
[speaker002:] well they do that now I mean you're not supposed to have a hand guns well maybe you're allowed to have them say in the city but you're not allowed to use them in the city limits and things
[speaker001:] no that's what I'm saying like not have one in the city like you can have one but you can't have one in your apartment if it's you know cause you're in the city like you may have it at a summer home or somewhere else yeah just because you live in the city doesn't mean you can't have it but you just can't have it in the city
[speaker002:] well what does that do to people that uh use it for protection like you know I personally I don't have a gun but I wouldn't mind having one I live in a neighborhood where the crime rate is going up somebody breaks in my house I wouldn't mind having a gun you know in self-defense but uh
[speaker001:] well yeah well you know I see I don't know the statistics for that for you know how if if by having a gun how much that really helps so I don't really know that's why I think that maybe if not maybe not just having one will be better that's that's why I I wouldn't know because I'm not from the city so I don't I don't see the very high crime rate  you on the other hand may have a different opinion
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well I've never had it had to have one in the city you know when I was in the country we used them and out there was a necessity I mean you don't kill a copperhead with a rock
[speaker001:] right right
[speaker002:] you shoot them
[speaker001:] exactly as you know as I'm I'm from uh you know rural
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so I I go hunting a lot
[speaker002:] I think there need to be stronger gun control laws that can be that can uh that uh what am I trying to say in in cities in urban areas
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but uh I don't think guns should be banned I just think it should be harder for for a criminal to get hold of them and of course the black market anyone can get one if they want one
[speaker001:] no yeah the bad things is that you know when you try to make it harder for criminals to get them how do you know if you're selling to a criminal or not
[speaker002:] well that I guess that's the whole point of some of this legislation they're they're trying to make
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I mean you can't you can't ever really determine that I mean you can sell it to a straight person and and then he becomes a truant yeah yeah that's like shit
[speaker002:] he turns around and yeah turns passes it on yeah there's no perfect answer but I guess I'm I'm more for I'm more for no I'm actually more for less control because I think it's it's a right that that I would hate to see us lose
[speaker001:] more for some kind of control huh yeah well I don't want to see it
[speaker002:] and the more the more you give gun control the little bit the little bit of time before long you don't have anything I mean I'm sure when they started out with taxes they didn't plan on taking thirty percent of your income but uh
[speaker001:] but it sounds good to them
[speaker002:] they just start with a little bit you know
[speaker001:] yeah well I think you know maybe some kind of condition some kind I think they should ban uh automatic weapons for you know only only and restrict them to uh gun clubs only I don't know if they've they've completed that action or not
[speaker002:] yeah I don't know what the deal is on that I know you can't buy them any more you can't can't buy imported ones anyway
[speaker001:] right and well uh I mean that doesn't really matter imported or or you know domestic machine guns they still do the same damage
[speaker002:] or is it the other way around right right
[speaker001:] I don't see I don't see what the difference is myself you know getting shot by
[speaker002:] I don't see any reason for anybody to have one unless they're fighting a war you know
[speaker001:] I mean in a gun club or something you know in a gun club or or have the wrong reason in mind those two are the
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] that's why I think that maybe you know you if you say you can't have an automatic weapon that's that's also saying that you can't have a gun so if you say you can have it but you have to be a member of gun club that that restricts it even further doesn't doesn't take away your right it just puts a restriction on your right
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] but I don't you know I think I think restrictions are going to be needed but no no bans or anything like that it's kind of hard though because in different regions different regions like you were saying is uh is different like there where you're at you wouldn't mind having a gun so you you're really
[speaker002:] yeah I wouldn't need an Uzi though
[speaker001:] you know yeah
[speaker002:] or a UB forty I mean a a pistol would be fine it's more for a scare tactic than anything else
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I don't really want to shoot somebody but I guess if uh it was me or him I would have to yeah
[speaker001:] it's a good deterrent
[speaker002:] course you've got people that are pulling them out on the highways down here it's like you cut them off and boom blow you away so you have to draw the line I guess
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I don't know so if we're supposed to pick a number I'd guess I'd pick oh what no gun control was was ten
[speaker001:] well total ban is one and uh no ban at all is ten
[speaker002:] I guess I'd have to pick about an eight something down there toward the low end
[speaker001:] yeah I think I think well around seven or eight restricting certain kinds and and leaving others out with restrictions but I don't know what that you know like you were saying the uh the seven day restriction or seven day wait period or something like that
[speaker002:] well supposedly in seven days they're going they're going to look through y our background and make sure you are not an ex-con or don't have
[speaker001:] what does that mean that that really doesn't you know it's just because it gives them time to look you up doesn't mean I mean it it it may be well intended but I don't know how effective it is
[speaker002:] yeah I don't either it might stop some people but some people with a history of something but uh you know I guess there's a lot of information out there on everybody whether we we believe it or not they know everything you've done for the last ever since you got a social security number really
[speaker001:] yeah that's true
[speaker002:] so uh I guess they've got some time to make sure you haven't been in prison or don't have a history of you know I don't know
[speaker001:] so then it's it's uh up to the the individual dealer
[speaker002:] I don't know I really don't know what the the actual on how how they work that out I imagine with the the way everything is computerized now it won't take much you know a perspective buyer comes in and they throw in your social security number on some nationally network system and it based on whatever criteria it's got it says yes or no this guy can get a gun or he can't and whoever decides those criterias you know that's something the legislatures do
[speaker001:] yeah but what does does the uh does the retailer have the opportunity to you know disregard that information that he receives
[speaker002:] I really don't know I don't know what the you know what the status of those laws are
[speaker001:] because you know if if it's if it's not against the law for the retailer to disregard that information that kind of defeats the whole purpose of the seven day wait period
[speaker002:] yeah I would think if they're going to make a law it would have to be something uh
[speaker001:] national
[speaker002:] it'd be a crime to uh not enforce it
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and
[speaker001:] oh well man I guess that's about five minutes
[speaker002:] all right uh
[speaker001:] all right nice talking to you Ralph Ralph bye
[speaker002:] take care yeah bye