[speaker001:] are you in the market for a new car
[speaker002:] um well actually about six months ago we were uh but it was kind of a different type deal we had uh a large conversion van that and we're looking to sell it too
[speaker001:] oh oh
[speaker002:] uh to get a smaller car but but when I was looking for the van we were looking around quite a bit
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh you need to down uh-huh and did you were you happy with the van you found
[speaker002:] oh yeah yeah as a matter of fact the reason we sold the van was just so that my wife could stay home with our two boys now
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh
[speaker002:] so we got rid of that big payment and so now she now she's a stay at home mom
[speaker001:] right right did they use a lot of gas those vans
[speaker002:] um it did fairly well for me uh I got about fifteen sixteen
[speaker001:] um-hum oh that is pretty good
[speaker002:] in in the that's combination city and highway driving and then on the open road I can get about nineteen or twenty
[speaker001:] oh that oh yeah that is nice I thought they used a lot more gas than that ah
[speaker002:] hum-um yeah you would think it'd be a lot worse I know mini vans don't get much better than that they get about twenty one twenty two
[speaker001:] no right around there oh well that's interesting we are just in the opposite situation of you we're looking for something bigger we have four children we just had
[speaker002:] yeah ah ah
[speaker001:] a new baby and so the car that we have only has the five seat belts and we need you know when we're all going in it we need six
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] so we're looking for something bigger and I
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I don't know we have a little Honda car that my husband uses it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] to commute back and forth to work and it has been it almost has two hundred thousand miles
[speaker002:] wow you got your use out of that
[speaker001:] right and it's been such a good car but I wish they made Hondas with the six seat belts I I don't I don't think they make them that big
[speaker002:] yeah that's true no I don't think so
[speaker001:] and I I'm not sure that I'm ready for a van yet
[speaker002:] yeah I have looked at some of the uh Toyota Toyota makes a real nice van I I like theirs a lot
[speaker001:] oh oh
[speaker002:] uh but if you really want size you know the prices are about the same depend you know you can spend as much on a mini van as you do on a full size conversion van
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh
[speaker002:] and the difference is the the conversion of course the mileage is a little bit worse
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but because you do have a bigger engine and bigger transmission you can pull stuff like trailers and boats and stuff easier than you can with a you know the other mini van
[speaker001:] right uh-huh oh are there a lot of vans down there my brother lives in Plano Texas and he said there's vans all over the place
[speaker002:] oh um-hum oh yeah yeah just lots and lots of vans
[speaker001:] so that's I was kind of I my preference would to be just to go to a bigger car I think rather than rather than a van but you know even that is it's hard to find a car that is big enough I guess
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] the problem we have now is our car it doesn't have a bench seat up front so if we had the bench seat then we would be fine but when we bought it we
[speaker002:] oh it doesn't yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] we didn't get the bench seat up front so
[speaker002:] yeah well I don't know if you'd be how how old is your oldest
[speaker001:] eight uh-huh
[speaker002:] eight yeah see I I don't know how long you'd be happy like that well I don't know how often all all six of you all will be in the car but I know that once you get one or two car seats in there
[speaker001:] right  that takes up a lot of room
[speaker002:] ah and then that yeah then you'd have your eight year old you'd probably have your eight year old up front on the bench seat
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but even even then after a while you'd feel cramped especially if it was ah you know a fairly long trip in more than about an hour
[speaker001:] that's true that's true I haven't I haven't thought about that because is there a lot more room in the regular size vans than in a car
[speaker002:] uh oh yes definitely you you know a station wagon the back end of a station wagon probably can carry as much as a van but as for passenger space ah you can't beat a van because you can you can you can carry seven in a van and that's a mini van
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh
[speaker002:] on a large conversion van you can you know you can carry a lot you can carry about nine
[speaker001:] oh so now why did you go with a large conversion van when you went
[speaker002:] well because for what I wanted in a van the mini vans were were about a thousand dollars less
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and you get almost twice the room in the conversion van than you do in the mini van
[speaker001:] oh oh
[speaker002:] plus like I said all the extra pulling power and I didn't feel I was losing that much on gas mileage because they're not that far off
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh right did you buy it new was it
[speaker002:] yeah it was a new one uh-huh
[speaker001:] oh and that's only about a thousand dollars difference
[speaker002:] yeah I mean I was really surprised
[speaker001:] yeah that surprises me too
[speaker002:] because because when you you know you can like pick Dodge for instance they got two sizes of mini vans one's the extra long and then the other the extra long option with all the power options you know windows locks and the nice stereo
[speaker001:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker002:] it was only about fifteen hundred less than the comparable full size van
[speaker001:] my word
[speaker002:] and you know like I said uh the mileage on a mini van is about oh twenty one twenty two on the highway and on the you know on the full size it was nineteen twenty
[speaker001:] nineteen so that's still comparable
[speaker002:] and that's nothing yeah so you know I I said you know given that I said
[speaker001:] wow