[speaker001:] so have you heard about Saturns
[speaker002:] I've heard some about Saturns I don't know a lot about them I haven't been over uh to a dealer to look at them although I did see something in tonight's paper that said that their uh reliability is rated to be equal to that of the I guess the Japanese cars
[speaker001:] ooh that's great actually that's kind of the type of car that I I'm thinking about we might get Saturns you can't go to a dealer unless you go to a a Saturn dealer
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] yeah this this offshoot of GM
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and uh supposedly they've got great customer  satisfaction from what things I've heard
[speaker002:] hm yeah I've heard a lot of people like them uh yeah I don't know whether whether I would buy Saturn or not at this point I'm kind of my card and uh desires tend to be pretty picky and so uh
[speaker001:] well like what
[speaker002:] well let's see I like I like cars that are designed with with human beings in mind and that's not just the driver and the passenger but that's the person whose working on it because I do almost almost all my own maintenance and uh those types of things and I found that while you can find some cars that are comfortable to ride in uh finding a car car anymore that's that's fairly easy for me to work on it just not very easy it's not very almost unlikely at this point
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and uh
[speaker001:] yeah I've got a sixty five Mustang and I and I do the work on most of the work on that myself
[speaker002:] ooh um-hum
[speaker001:] and when I look at modern cars and stuff like I just say I will never do that with the modern cars it's not worth my time you can't get in there you can't do anything
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and it's so complicated too I look at it and I say boy you know I I'd have to almost go take a class or something like that
[speaker002:] well I've got an eighty three Saab
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh I find that for a normal you know everyday things it's really very easy to work on and so uh now I'm kind of spoiled I used to have an old uh Chevy uh with a three fifty in it and uh I really liked working on it
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] ah cause it was pretty easy too it was about a nineteen seventy so I'm kind of uh biased in that and you know I want a car that I can work on because I think it just costs too much even to get the oil changed anymore
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and that's kind of that's that's probably one thing I'd look at I think another thing I'd look at is safety
[speaker001:] yeah that's one of the things that my wife and I have thought about actually the car one of the cars we'd most like to get would be the new ninety one Ford Taurus because they're actually one of the cheaper cars that have dual side air bags
[speaker002:] hm that's a real nice car I think
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I've driven some uh Tauruses over the last couple of years when I've been on business trips uh as rental cars and I've always been very impressed
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] with the Tauruses it's a really nice car I think it's very it's a stylish car both inside and out it's comfortable to drive uh reasonable performance and this is out in California where where they don't make a car that's got reasonable performance anymore
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh I've been real impressed with that you you and I didn't realize that they were putting dual uh air bags in that car now
[speaker001:] ninety yep then or excuse me the ninety two's the ninety two's had dual air bags this newest model you could get them with duals
[speaker002:] um-hum well I think that that's excellent that's excellent because
[speaker001:] yeah but the thing is is that it's twenty thousand dollars actually my my wife and I are actually thinking contemplating buying a new car in the next year and a half or so so we're actually been looking around and thinking about things we'd like to get like a
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] oh I don't know what do you call it a dealer return type thing on a ninety two and ninety three or something like that you know year old ninety two or something like that
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum sure
[speaker001:] see if we can
[speaker002:] those are yeah that that'd be a good deal to go with
[speaker001:] and the other thing we're looking at is the Saturns too because they looked really nice
[speaker002:] okay um-hum what do you what do you looking for in in those what attracts what attracts you to the Saturns or or or of course we've already talked you know the Taurus is safe but what what kind of things are you looking for
[speaker001:] well the the Saturns you can get air bags in them I don't think you can get dual side air bags but one of the things the two things that I'm really
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I'd say the most important thing is a car that's not gonna fall apart that doesn't have problems
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you set down you look at consumer reports we been pouring over consumer reports and you just get so depressed for the US auto
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] makers when you do that because you see the reliability and the types of problems they have and and the two cars that apparently are close to that that actually have high reliability the Taurus is one of the highest US cars
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and the other one is are the Saturns
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] so those two things and then you know we kind of want a four door
[speaker002:] okay