[speaker001:] um so you do you have children no
[speaker002:] no um I'm single uh my parents are divorced so I can relate to not having enough family time
[speaker001:] okay um I don't have I'm single um my family moved around a lot and I was at boarding school so I can relate to not having family time
[speaker002:] um  uh-huh oh
[speaker001:] so uh so what do you think it's important for as far as spending quality time with family
[speaker002:] well uh my parents didn't have a lot in common and that's that's what really brought on the divorce is just uh growing terribly apart they got married too young and uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] my dad I never really knew my dad um he was just a man in the house we um he he my parents were together until I was about sixteen
[speaker001:] yeah  um-hum
[speaker002:] and um I never I I talked to him but it was just in passing you know we spent well the older I got the less time we spent together
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and um we we talked maybe five minutes out of a week
[speaker001:] oh okay
[speaker002:] and so so I loved him and we talked well you know we gave each other other hugs and asked how our day had been and that was the extent of it
[speaker001:] oh huh
[speaker002:] everyday you know that would be the most we'd talk about for just a couple of minutes and
[speaker001:] what about your mom um-hum okay
[speaker002:] oh well I am very close to my mother uh we talk all the time I live with her now my parents have been divorced for about three years three and a half four years and um
[speaker001:] um-hum  okay
[speaker002:] and we talk all the time we're very close and she is a real personable relationship oriented woman
[speaker001:] well that's good that's good um my my parents and I didn't talk while I was growing up so uh they sort of did their thing and I did my thing so um
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh we they're not divorced but um they're missionaries and their you know their job came first family second it seemed anyway
[speaker002:] right oh dear
[speaker001:] so that's the way I saw it so we didn't really spend much family time together I didn't think um and they you know I was in the basketball and track team and they never came to any of that
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh uh-huh  oh
[speaker001:] so things like that so if if I had a family I'd make sure that I would go to events you know that my kids would be involved in because it's really important
[speaker002:] sure  sure
[speaker001:] you know to help them to feel like they're special or you know important
[speaker002:] oh yeah  uh-huh yeah I'm a Christian and I know that that God is supposed to be your priority but your family's priority above church work
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] is is what I've always believed my dad was chairman of the deacons in our church
[speaker001:] uh-huh  uh-huh
[speaker002:] and he put time with the church church uh uh the church burned by accident um uh the you know when I was real young and we were in the process of building another house
[speaker001:] uh-huh  uh-huh
[speaker002:] and my dad put working on the church building uh before working with my mother on the house kind of left to her
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and really left the family completely behind to work on the church and to be you know what everybody would consider to be a good leader of the church
[speaker001:] wanted him to be yeah
[speaker002:] right right and and he had more of a desire with with with the rest of the church members to be with us and so that that was definitely a problem
[speaker001:] oh  yeah sounds like it
[speaker002:] and uh when when my parents divorced I I think my mother has trouble staying in church because um she's just she just knows that there's a lot of hypocrites and um
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] that you you just have to put that part behind you
[speaker001:] right there is hypocrites everywhere anytime you have uh a group of people
[speaker002:] oh sure sure and oh sure and not everybody is going to get along but uh yeah that that was definitely a a problem in the marriage and they didn't communicate well at all so
[speaker001:] but that's right that's right  right
[speaker002:] since they weren't spending time with each other hardly at all you know my dad would come home late from work because he'd visit everyone in the community before he'd come home um
[speaker001:] uh-huh  right
[speaker002:] me and my sister I have an older sister six years older than me that Stacy McClain oh my word
[speaker001:] I I think I know who she is yeah in fact as you were talking I was thinking I know who you are yeah she's in my class in fact she's Karen she's the one that got me into this
[speaker002:] oh my goodness oh my goodness what is your name again Karen  oh my goodness that's funny well then she can tell you all about our family
[speaker001:] and you sound like her yeah okay well she's told me a little bit but you're you're you're telling me more I'm getting the whole scoop yeah well that's really a coincidence
[speaker002:] uh-huh  yeah oh yeah well I have to tell her because I talked two two nights ago was from Pennsylvania then last night it was New Jersey and I didn't expect someone
[speaker001:] oh really