[speaker001:] Well, tell me about your home.
[speaker002:] Okay. Uh, right now we're living in, well it's me, my wife and, uh, two young boys. And, uh, right now we're in a, uh, I guess it's either a zero lot line or a garden home.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Which you might call it. So we don't have a, a big yard. Uh, but, uh, when my wife and I first moved in, it was just the two of us. So it was enough.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Uh, and it's, uh, I guess what they call a story and a half. Because it's not a full two story.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Where, you know, everything on top is on bottom. So, it's got real high ceilings on half the house and the other half is just standard sized ceilings.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] And, uh, it's about a five year old house now.
[speaker001:] It sounds nice.
[speaker002:] It's, uh, pretty nice. Unfortunately, the builder who built it went out of business already [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah?
[speaker002:] Yeah. It was a, Landmark is the one who built it.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well, you know, these guys that gambled high
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] lost big you know.
[speaker002:] That's true.
[speaker001:] And, uh
[speaker002:] Exactly what happened to them.
[speaker001:] I'm insulating myself from that problem. I'm building my own house.
[speaker002:] Oh, that's nice.
[speaker001:] And as I look out the window of my trailer, I can envision all the insulation that's going up [clicking] today [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Oh, really.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Are you doing it yourself?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Wow.
[speaker001:] I used to be a builder.
[speaker002:] Oh, that's nice.
[speaker001:] And I retired about five years ago and
[speaker002:] Oh, I see.
[speaker001:] started college.
[speaker002:] Huh.
[speaker001:] And now I'm a college educated builder [LAUGHTER]. There's still no work, you know.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah.
[speaker001:] So, uh, you know, I decided this summer that, uh, you know, we had enough credit on the credit cards to buy the materials so I did.
[speaker002:] That's great.
[speaker001:] And, uh, see the, the, the state has a law that says you cannot borrow the money to build your own home.
[speaker002:] R-, is that so? I didn't know that.
[speaker001:] You can borrow the money to pay somebody else to build your house but you can't borrow the money to build your own.
[speaker002:] Well that sounds kind of dumb.
[speaker001:] [Static] Well, it's to protect the, the banks from guys that say yeah I want to build my own house and go out a build a spec home
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and then it doesn't sell and then the bank's
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] holding the bag.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Well.
[speaker002:] Huh.
[speaker001:] As, as you know, anything that involves the government is, works half as well as it's supposed to costs three times as much. Right?
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] That's right [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Hence the savings and loan problem we have.
[speaker002:] Yeah, that's true.
[speaker001:] But, uh, you know, my home is, uh, fairly simple. It's designed to be added on to.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. That's good.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well, I figure it's just me and my wife but, you know, I like to do stuff with my hands and whatnot, so I want
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] to have a shop.
[speaker002:] How big a lot do you got it on?
[speaker001:] Ten acres.
[speaker002:] Wow. That's nice. That's real nice.
[speaker001:] Well, yeah. It's really nice too because I can't see my nearest neighbor. He's on the other side of a hill.
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] And my second nearest neighbor is a dot on the horizon.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Seriously.
[speaker002:] God. That's pretty good.
[speaker001:] Well, in the winter time, I can see, see another guy but, you know, he's
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I can just make out his place, you know.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I've got a thirty mile view to the east and about ten miles to the north.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And, uh,
[speaker002:] Oh, that's pretty good.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well, I took a lot of time in choosing this site [clicking]
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] because the, the house has no heating or air conditioning.
[speaker002:] Oh, you, you, you don't plan on putting any, any of that in?
[speaker001:] Well, it's got a, a very small furnace.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And a, uh, we'll use a wood burning stove as well.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But, in the house itself, I've been working inside, you know, these, lo-, these many months
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and I have not had to use the heat.
[speaker002:] Wow.
[speaker001:] Because it's all geothermal.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That's pretty good.
[speaker001:] And with all the, see I've got, on the south side is all glass. Well, as much as I could get in it, you know.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And, uh, the east side is glass. I've got one, two, three, four, five, [very faint] six windows in the east side on forty-eight feet. So it's almost all glass.
[speaker002:] Wow.
[speaker001:] And, uh,
[speaker002:] My wife would love that [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah. I mean, you know.
[speaker002:] She loves lots of windows.
[speaker001:] There's no place in the house where you can stand and not see four windows.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] That's great.
[speaker001:] So, uh,
[speaker002:] Is it a single story?
[speaker001:] Well, not really. It's, uh, it's on the side of a hill.
[speaker002:] Oh, I see.
[speaker001:] So the first, you know, the, the, the, what I call residential level
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] at the side that's in the hill is about four feet deep.
[speaker002:] Um, I see.
[speaker001:] And the side that's on the, uh, the other side is about six feet high.
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] So I've got a pretty good grade there.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And then when I put the verandas whi-, which will be twelve feet out all the way around on the north, south and east sides
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] that will define the shop.
[speaker002:] [Noise] Yeah, that's kind of like, like a Victorian style?
[speaker001:] Exactly.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I, I've always liked that. The, you know, I, we don't have much yard but I built a small deck in the back.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] But, you know, I, I see these magazines where, you know, dig your, your own deck.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I, I kind of wish I had them, those size property and, and, uh, one with a grade on it so I can build a real nice deck.