[speaker001:] well yes so so do you do much exercising
[speaker002:] uh only for fun I really enjoy it though so uh let's see what do I do in the winter I play volleyball
[speaker001:] yeah what do
[speaker002:] and I go skiing that's about it
[speaker001:] oh you go skiing eh yeah well out here in the west you've got some nice places to go skiing
[speaker002:] well I must admit that Utah has the best snow on earth
[speaker001:] anyway um I haven't been in a regular exercising program do you have a regular program that you actually you know stick to or
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] do you have it planned out or is it just you do exercise for recreation recreation
[speaker002:] yeah it you know I do it for the fun I can't stand say stationary bicycle
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] gets pretty boring or like uh you know lifting weights because I can't count more than to three before I get bored and then I lose track of the repetitions but uh the uh you know the the gym's open say for volleyball on every Wednesday so so that's regular
[speaker001:] so you go so you like regularly do volleyball yeah I used to I used to regularly run and then about a year and a half ago I had some back problems
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and I haven't been able to get out and run and I have really noticed it in a year and a half I've gone from being fit to being a vegetable I feel like such a vegetable now but
[speaker002:] so you must be over twenty then
[speaker001:] yeah I'm I'm over twenty I'm going down the gentle slope
[speaker002:] yeah when you're about when you're under twenty five you can pretty much get away with uh doing nothing and then when you want to get do something something athletic you just get up and do it otherwise I find you've got to every week everyday
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] if you want to have any sort of shape
[speaker001:] yeah so anyway I'm looking forward to the Spring as it comes around to trying to get back into running now that I'm
[speaker002:] running that doesn't bother your knees at all
[speaker001:] no
[speaker002:] great
[speaker001:] no I've never had problems with my knees at all um uh the that's not not at all a problem it's more just uh the other thing I do is I run with my wife and so we go kind of out together and we don't run hard like like we jog and like kind of just go see places and kind of run around together and it's not like we go real hard or anything but it's enjoyable
[speaker002:] well it's hard to get no exercise while running I mean you pretty much got to move don't you
[speaker001:] oh yeah well you do I mean it's it's really jogging but I mean you can push yourself at different levels how hard you run
[speaker002:] well even just walking well but you know like say riding a bike where if you go really slow it's pretty much coasting you're not even doing anything and just to move while running you've got to move your legs every single step
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] so you don't you don't feel you're getting a good exercise when you go out uh jogging
[speaker001:] oh I do but I don't feel that it's that hard I it's not that stressful you know you're asking about how it was on the knees or on the body and that stuff and it's not
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] it's not really stressful at all in any I mean it's it's fun and it's enjoyable and it's good exercise but
[speaker002:] all right yeah it's not supposed to hurt I just find that it really pounds because I'm in particular running
[speaker001:] you you do you run
[speaker002:] no no that's I and I'd like to because I think it'd be fun I run in connection with you know in case I accidentally play basketball or uh so you know football you know something there's all sorts of activities where you end up running
[speaker001:] it's just
[speaker002:] sort of a natural thing
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] but I don't do it just for the sake of running
[speaker001:] how about swimming for a while I used to swim
[speaker002:] yeah you know swimming is something I've gotten to the point where I action actually can do laps now
[speaker001:] uh uh-huh
[speaker002:] that used to bore bore me to tears you know I'd love to swim if it was water polo or you know splashing about or you know if there was some diversion just uh but but that's good exercise
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] yeah I'm looking forward to that it's I can
[speaker001:] does this extend out from like high school or something like that athletics or anything that you used to do in high school
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] I used to run some cross country in high school but
[speaker002:] yeah see that that gets back to this lack of discipline and training I I would never join a team because they'd want you to do these repetitions or something
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] rather than let just play the game