[speaker001:] Mike the subject is almost laughable is there such a thing as an honest politician
[speaker002:] well that's uh debatable if if you read the paper every day looks like there's a new scandal breaking ever ever minute uh
[speaker001:] oh I agree with you it's amazing Will Rogers who was in the twenties and thirties if you hear the guy that gimmicks him and uses his same material it is pertinent today as it was then
[speaker002:] yeah it is that guy that does the traveling show that's that's on Broadway and everything now
[speaker001:] uh yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] yeah that's supposed to be great I don't know as long as there lawyers making up the majority of the state legislatures and the national Congress uh I don't see a lot of change happening
[speaker001:] attorneys yeah did you catch that the defensive driving course you can take to get out of a ticket was recently changed from two years to once every twelve months it was also noted in some journal that the percentage of ownership of the driving schools by legislatures has greatly increased
[speaker002:] isn't that funny how that just happens to be a correlation
[speaker001:] yes yes they're not down there to to live off the salary of uh what they're paid
[speaker002:] I'm afraid not unfortunately
[speaker001:] and course you know the the famous joke is Japan does so good in business because they only let ten attorneys a year graduate each year and that's if fifteen had died the year before and
[speaker002:] right I saw a a lawyer joke book the other day and it and the title of the joke was skid marks and of course there's a major joke about skid marks and lawyers
[speaker001:] yes yes uh
[speaker002:] but uh I don't know it just it's pretty disgusting every time you it it's not just the unethical part of it it's the self-serving part of it
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] that bothers me about the politicians they're all out either for a particular controlled interest group of some kind or maybe several uh and rather than really honestly decide issues on the basis of what is good for the country everybody decides them with this the constituency in mind or or afraid that they're gonna hack off the wrong group or the other vote wise
[speaker001:] um-hum and won't get reelected
[speaker002:] and yeah exactly and so we if we just limited terms senators especially
[speaker001:] I agree with you a hundred percent
[speaker002:] and even Supreme Court judges this appointing them for life is just absurd they wind up senile old men making decisions at eighty years old
[speaker001:] oh I think all the way uh all the way down to dog catchers of the city yes sir limited turn
[speaker002:] just just say that the most you can serve is a couple of terms and then get in there and then you could get in there and do the best possible job that you really feel like you should be doing and then you're out of there and go on to something else instead of this
[speaker001:] two two um-hum um-hum you go to you know get elected to another office and let somebody else pay you
[speaker002:] because this exactly well at least you'd decide things you'd decide things from the stand point of what's best hopefully for whatever agency you're representing
[speaker001:] uh you seen the benefits that yeah the benefits legislatures uh state and senate and uh and legislatures in Warshin get after they've been there a few terms is unbelievable they get their salary for life health benefits for life
[speaker002:] yeah I know
[speaker001:] oh uh uh have have you ever noticed when
[speaker002:] I just I just think we ought to we limit the President why not terms of the others and give there's plenty of other qualified people to run
[speaker001:] what right they tried that in in Washington or was it or Oregon but speaker of the house was from there
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and if approved it he would not have been eligible to continue representing and being speaker and so the voters voters kicked it said no we we since we're the one with the with the gun right now we're not gonna vote out having the gun control having the power
[speaker002:] exactly hm
[speaker001:] so when I I don't LBJ's a perfect example of how somebody can be broke and get into politics and come out rich as yeah
[speaker002:] that's right and above nothing either starting with Duvall County
[speaker001:] well they they used to say in advertising that the textbook example of good competitive advertising advertising is Hertz and Avis rent a car commercials number one number two I guess LBJ has to be a textbook example of politician without any morals
[speaker002:] yep yeah that's that's probably true
[speaker001:] I don't think one of the question question was could they legislate laws to keep politicians honest my opinion no because they won't pass laws against themselves
[speaker002:] I haven't yeah I don't well that's it when the very people making the laws are gonna be the ones who would have to pass those uh against themselves it it sort of uh goes without saying that it'd be awfully awfully tough unless you could get the best thing that could happen uh to the state legislatures would be to be full of just independent independent independent businessmen or just businessmen working for companies that could somehow get their salary made
[speaker001:] um-hum let them
[speaker002:] uh justified you know or brought up to whatever over the state salary level uh
[speaker001:] um-hum