[speaker001:] okay uh Utah has a a good school system where uh as far as I'm concerned I can't really see the difficulty uh or any problems that we have other than they keep saying the ACT scores were a little low or lower than well we're above above the national average but they're talking in the newspapers all the time that we're not doing as well as other countries in science and math which I think there's been an effort to to increase that so I don't see that there's serious any serious uh problems with our school systems here in Utah uh what about Texas
[speaker002:] oh I'd say uh we probably have what could could be described as serious problems
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] from uh gun toting kids to uh low grades on the teens test
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] they uh
[speaker001:] well I hate I hate to hear it
[speaker002:] they got a pretty much of a handful of problems to deal with
[speaker001:] huh where the students are kind of controlling the the schools then in some areas
[speaker002:] well I don't know if you could say that but they're uh are having to uh put in metal detectors and
[speaker001:] oh boy
[speaker002:] security and
[speaker001:] yeah that's not good uh I'd hate to teach under those situations
[speaker002:] indeed
[speaker001:] well well that hasn't got here yet I hope it it doesn't but uh it I know we're we're starting to have a few gangs here associated with the schools
[speaker002:] yeah that's bad news I tell you they uh
[speaker001:] yeah but that's where it begins I guess
[speaker002:] course it always sounds a lot worse than it is I suppose but
[speaker001:] uh-huh but at least uh I I go into the schools quite a bit in my occupation the different high schools in the in the six western states that I I work in and uh generally from what I can see the uh we don't really have that type of problems in any of the states yet but I know talking to my uh counterparts back east that they're they have uh security guards that patrol the hallways and and that's not a good learning situation if you've got to have policemen there to keep kids in class and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so it sound like that's it's kind of getting to that point in Texas in at least where you're at
[speaker002:] yeah they uh I don't know I think they uh they need to uh get back to the basics I think we
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] throwing a lot of money at the problem but it hasn't uh seemed to do what's necessary yet
[speaker001:] um-hum that's true and I I think that uh in in our Utah school systems we we've kind of reversed going from the social classes back to a lot of the academic classes that uh they feel is necessary and I think that is that's a good change to to get back instead of so many uh off the wall classes that have nothing to do with academic education you know education
[speaker002:] I think learning social interaction is good too but uh I think it has to be a balanced curriculum
[speaker001:] uh yes there does uh you can't uh go from one extreme to the other and there there has to be a balance there's got to be both there but I think it should be a little stronger on the academic uh portion in order to prepare them for the society today with the technology that we have they've
[speaker002:] that's right
[speaker001:] they've got to have a good math an english background in order to compete
[speaker002:] yeah I don't think uh American schools in general are uh coming up to where they should be
[speaker001:] no they're talking about uh in some of the states back here are going two hundred days a year instead of a hundred and eighty I don't know what your school year is there but
[speaker002:] they're talking about going to year they're actually testing out we just had it on the news tonight about the uh year round school
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] they go for three months and then take a month off or something
[speaker001:] we have a a there's a little of that going on here but it's all in the elementary grades it's not in the upper uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] in the secondary area but I it's there's some test cases to see uh if the students are able to if they don't lose as much uh they're able to retain more where they're only out for a month instead of three months and they have to go
[speaker002:] exactly I think that was the uh thing they mentioned too
[speaker001:] uh-huh so it sounds like uh in your area and this area too that they're trying to work on the problem that they see as a problem to correct the some some some of the situations uh