[speaker001:] so do you fish
[speaker002:] oh yeah my dad has a lake cabin and so we go there for the small lake uh just outside of the Dallas Fort Worth area it takes us about three hours to get there and we go and we fish and we catch a bunch of junk nothing nothing to talk about for the most part but it's fun
[speaker001:] uh from a boat or from shore
[speaker002:] from the dock from shore
[speaker001:] oh that's nice uh mostly catfish or
[speaker002:] oh mostly we catch carp if we're doing good we catch a catfish or two once in a while and you know we go ahead and eat those but we've never caught enough to really have what you'd call a fish fry what we normally do is just uh go ahead and clean it up and then uh you know put it in a bag and freeze it and and somebody takes it home and eats it then when there's just a couple people instead of a whole crowd usually there's a pretty good crowd there so we don't ever catch enough to eat carp is usually pretty much fun because I've caught up to about an eight pound carp on a little you know a little pole with twenty pound test line and that that's a pretty good fight so that's a lot of fun
[speaker001:] yeah a real light line real light rig well that sounds like fun
[speaker002:] yeah they fight hard
[speaker001:] fish in Colorado so different than that mostly trout
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] in the mountains
[speaker002:] yeah and in the rivers and stuff
[speaker001:] yeah yeah mountain streams and rivers
[speaker002:] are they good to eat
[speaker001:] uh yeah very yeah there isn't much there you know
[speaker002:] oh you mean size wise they're not very big
[speaker001:] um by and large no but but they're big fun
[speaker002:] yeah well I've been is that mostly uh fly fishing when you're doing that or are you fly fishing or are you using a bobber
[speaker001:] what I I I'm a fly fisherman
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] yeah I I cast a ways I'm not highly proficient but it's fun
[speaker002:] I've never even tried that my if I don't have a reel with a button on it I tend to get so much backlash it's not worth the trouble
[speaker001:] well let me explain fly fly fishing to you then you're not casting a weight on the end of the line
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] you're casting the weight of the line
[speaker002:] with the little thing on the end yeah I thought it had a weight
[speaker001:] yeah well the fly on the end weighs nothing it weighs less than the line
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] so what you do is you strip off oh four five six little rolls coils of line into your hand
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and you whip the line
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] as you whip it over your head or side to side
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] you slowly feed out more and more
[speaker002:] hum so you're fishing downstream so it will carry some
[speaker001:] well no no you fish upstream
[speaker002:] oh you fish upstream
[speaker001:] right and then you let it carry it downstream
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and then you reel it in and you do it again
[speaker002:] you hope that they think it's a bug and
[speaker001:] yeah exactly jump at it
[speaker002:] and eat it yeah
[speaker001:] uh from what I'm seeing and hearing and all the the big pattern that's really looking forward for spring is the grub pattern
[speaker002:] that's a fish
[speaker001:] no no it it looks like a grub yeah okay whenever you yeah a lure a fly
[speaker002:] oh it's a it's a lure I see
[speaker001:] whenever you have a something that looks like something else
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and it's a fly you call it a pattern
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] all right uh you know there's bumble bee patterns
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] there's excuse me uh there's bumble patterns there's mosquito patterns there's wasp patterns there's grub patterns uh
[speaker002:] um did someone just come up with this design and and you're going to make one for yourself or are you going to buy it
[speaker001:] uh you can buy them uh I've got some and
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] they seemed to have been hitting real heavy on it in Fall
[speaker002:] oh it's just that that just happens to be what the fish like this year huh
[speaker001:] yeah yeah you know how that changes
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] the phase of the moon and
[speaker002:] I guess so we tend to use just bait and a few lures but bait tends to work the best just some blood bait
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I I yeah I'm from west Texas
[speaker002:] oh are you where are you from oh I'm from Midland
[speaker001:] yeah Lubbock oh another west Texan
[speaker002:] I went to college at Tech so you've been out to Buffalo Gap fishing
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] yeah I've been up there
[speaker001:] it
[speaker002:] I didn't catch anything but I've been up there
[speaker001:] it it's kind of nice way to get away from everything for the day
[speaker002:] yeah it's fun it's lazy take a picnic lunch I used to do that with my dad every once in a while we'd go out on a Saturday and just spend the day before it got too hot
[speaker001:] yeah it's well there you fish mornings and evenings
[speaker002:] yeah yeah we do most of our fishing at night
[speaker001:] and nights yeah
[speaker002:] just from the heat of it all that's one advantage you've certainly got on us
[speaker001:] it at times gets incredibly hot here
[speaker002:] it does I've only been up there once in the summer well no I've been up there twice in the summer but both times it was really pleasant in fact it snowed on us in in gosh when was that we were in Mesa Verde Park and it was like the end of June it was just before July fourth
[speaker001:] June oh
[speaker002:] and it was twenty eight twenty nine degrees we were out in this silly tent with regular little sleeping bags not knowing any better and here it went and it froze and it snowed on us we did not know what to do about it
[speaker001:] yeah fishing is not just just dragging fish out of the water it's it's a total experience you know getting out in nature and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] hearing the crickets and listening to the birds and seeing the squirrels and camping out and eating out of doors and
[speaker002:] uh-huh do you yeah do you have to do you wear waders when you fish
[speaker001:] uh I probably ought to I just freeze
[speaker002:] oh goodness it must be a little bit cold
[speaker001:] yeah yeah well you know ankle deep or standing on the bank and slipping it out there
[speaker002:] that's cold water around there
[speaker001:] slipping it out there
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] you know I always intend to just stand on the bank and just kind of slip it out there and
[speaker002:] do you have any oh I see
[speaker001:] you know how it is the water's kind of
[speaker002:] yeah and you get you get a little more carried away with it and you move a little closer
[speaker001:] and then you're in to it just a little bit and then you splash in and the next thing you know your knees are wet
[speaker002:] yeah do you have any kids that you take fishing
[speaker001:] uh got a stepdaughter she's real sweet and uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] at times she enjoys it at times not and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] a fuzzy little dog
[speaker002:] I have a three and a half year old and a one and a half year old and the little one of course is could care less the uh three and a half year old has just gotten to the point we got him a little pole last year and just put uh
[speaker001:] ah yeah yeah
[speaker002:] his big thing last year was throwing it in the water and reeling it up that was what he considered fishing this year he's gotten to where he can we we were at a friend's uh stock pond we were out at their farm and and they had been fishing and let him use the pole while we walked we all walked off a healthy hundred yards or so and let him fish and he started trying to cast it
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] so he he was kind of getting there but he's
[speaker001:] yeah you guys sure want to be out of range
[speaker002:] he's at a dangerous point right now he understands the mechanics of pushing the button and throw but not necessarily the direction it's going to go in
[speaker001:] it takes time yeah last year we had a oh just a wonderful trip up to Trappers Lake oh it was cold and rain the whole time and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] we still had a good time out of the deal
[speaker002:] yeah well that's good
[speaker001:] uh and Colorado is a beautiful place to live
[speaker002:] oh yeah my husband would like to live there but I don't know all of our family is here so
[speaker001:] well and you've got to have you've got to work for a living to
[speaker002:] well yeah but TI is up there so that part of it would probably work out
[speaker001:] what division y'all in
[speaker002:] I'm sorry what
[speaker001:] what division are y'all in
[speaker002:] we're both uh I was uh military but he's division three it goes back and forth Division well maybe division one right now he's in computers
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] so and he's in school and everything else I have some friends who work up there
[speaker001:] well the only thing up here is division one oh yeah
[speaker002:] Kathy and Kevin Guy
[speaker001:] okay yeah
[speaker002:] yeah and they like to fish they've been inviting us to come up there in the summer her dad has a cabin and they go fishing up there
[speaker001:] oh fishing's fishing is fun up here it's not
[speaker002:] so that would be neat to try it some time
[speaker001:] it seems like the success ratio the success rate here is not as good as on some of the better lakes there but it is fun you know it
[speaker002:] yeah long as you have a good time that's the main point so
[speaker001:] the the experience is is better up here I think you know it seems more relaxing there's more to look at
[speaker002:] uh-huh definitely more to look at
[speaker001:] and and there's something about listening to water run that's relaxing to the soul
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know if you're if you're just sitting on a nice hot lake
[speaker002:] yeah the only thing you've got to watch is when that creek comes up we camped next to one one time when we were there a couple of summers ago and we figured we were up a long way off and then it rained that night and we thought well wonder how far off we are and we got up the next day and that creek that had been fifty or sixty feet from our site of our tent was now about three feet away and it's like oh well maybe we ought to move just a touch so that was kind of funny
[speaker001:] yeah it it is interesting to watch that water rise all of a sudden
[speaker002:] yeah I just love the way it looks I could almost just watch the water we in fact we have gotten out on on trips before and just stopped and watched it because there was so much and if you were there I mean it was one time we were there and I guess it was late May so it was really your spring almost you know at even though it was it was really summer down here and and the I guess the creek the mountains were really starting to melt and the creek was just wild just running
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and and all the white water and noise and the it was just beautiful
[speaker001:] yeah it it gets foamy foamy almost and you know it's just pure and pristine
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] and the froth and