[speaker001:] do you see as uh the changes that have occurred in the last ten then Beverly
[speaker002:] I think one of the thing that I notice a lot I know it's touching social changes but uh to me what becomes socially acceptable and I I don't know if it's a factor of me growing older and seeing things through different eyes or if it's a factor of our society actually moving in that direction but I notice things on TV being more um open more I I believe that they portray things on TV obviously that they never would've years ago and you know and specifically nudity things like that um I I don't know I I've said several times to my husband that I feel like jeez in ten years they'll have just full nudity on TV and nobody'll think anything of it and to me that's surprising to me that's that's a big change to accept it and it comes across I think subtly you know little at a time to where you get so used to seeing a little change that you know when they go uh one step further you don't notice it that much so that's one of the biggest ones I've seen
[speaker001:] huh yeah that's a big one
[speaker002:] what about you
[speaker001:] well I think that society has come to a point where they're they're not responsible for any of their actions somebody else uh made them do it uh that's what I seem to see a lot of that uh no one is willing to take responsibility for their life and their choices it's rather sue these guys because they made a faulty uh a seat belt that didn't work right or
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] well that's what I think is a big one but
[speaker002:] I tend to agree with you and I think there's a lot of that um ah yeah we have become lawsuit happy any little thing it's like let's see what I can get don't you think that maybe a lot of that came from um oh you know the the the era we went through that was like you know hey if it makes you happy do it you know kind of like disregard to others do what makes you happy and and yes we should take care of ourselves you know and we should see to our own lives but not to a total disregard of others um I don't know I think it's come to that a lot I see it a lot in my daughter I have a four year old and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] hers isn't a social thing as much as it's a stage they go through but whenever something happens it's you made me hit that you made me do this and so I try to tell her Brianna everything isn't always somebody else's fault you know you have to watch where you're going and and so it's what you just said kind of hits home to me just through her
[speaker001:] sure
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] yeah and another thing I think has changed quite a bit is uh the roles that men and women play that's really in the last thirty years has changed significantly
[speaker002:] I think you're right um in your opinion good or bad or both
[speaker001:] well both you know there's some great things that uh have come about with more equality but I think that also I don't know what's causing society to have so many broken families and things like that because I think that's bad for us
[speaker002:] I do too I think part of that I I don't know I think the role of women changing has been good in that women are feeling like in in terms of their self confident confidence their self-worth you know I can do something I can be somebody you know if I put my mind to it I can accomplish things too and I think that's good but um I think when you push you know maybe I think when that was first trying come about with you know what we know as the women's lib movement I think it was too extreme um
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I think you can be feminine and still be all those other things too you know and I think there's definite roles and I think you know part of the break up of the family maybe it's because of the the the social changes I don't know the fact that ah during their early changes where you know women did come more speak maybe maybe speak out I was gonna say come more out of themselves but speak out I think a lot of men were threatened by that I think now less men are you know because they're used to it it's around them um
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but I I don't know I I I don't know why the families are breaking up I think that may go back to what you said a minute ago about people not being responsible for themselves or their actions because it's like they don't go into the marriage with a commitment that this is gonna work they go in and say well hey you know I'll stick with it while it's good and then I'll get out and I I I think that directly affects the effort that you put into that marriage or that commitment
[speaker001:] yeah I would agree with you ah so