[speaker001:] okay go ahead
[speaker002:] well I I live we're gonna compare notes um I uh I
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] myself often desire to exercise often believe I should and rarely do
[speaker001:] don't do it well I tell you I I firmly believe in exercising I think it's a I do it everyday on a regular basis I
[speaker002:] what what what sort of of regiment do you have
[speaker001:] well I just got back from biking twelve and a half miles but this time of year you can't get much biking in uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but every morning I use this President's uh council of physical fitness and it really is
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh uh it's worth doing and you can do it anywhere I I travel quite a bit in my in my business and you can do it
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] you know wherever you're at and if you do it I I do it every morning after uh usually after breakfast before I take a shower and get you know dressed going you know to go to work
[speaker002:] yes um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh now what I do I mean I've done this for you know like fifteen years so you don't start at this kind of regiment you know I so what I'm telling you isn't something you go out and do and because you'll hurt yourself
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] uh every every uh you know it takes me about fifteen minutes to do this now because I do it all the time but I uh I do twenty five um uh what where you have your arms above your head and and your body twisters touch you know left and right toe
[speaker002:] um-hum right
[speaker001:] then I do uh ten uh right and left uh trunk twisters
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and I do uh about sixty uh uh you know bicycle type uh leg thrust type things
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and I do uh twenty uh leg lifters on each side you know when you're prone laying on the floor
[speaker002:] yes yes right
[speaker001:] and then I do fifty push-ups and do a hundred sit ups and uh then I do about uh
[speaker002:] my goodness you do all of this in fifteen minutes
[speaker001:] oh yeah oh yeah and then uh thirty uh now if you did football like like the old grass drills where you're on your stomach and you you know prone type things where you're kind of rocking on your stomach type thing
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but that takes about really about maybe about thirteen minutes uh you know in the morning to do it but
[speaker002:] yeah now what what keeps you doing that I mean I I sometimes start start little much less much more modest efforts but I give up I just find them boring and hard to
[speaker001:] well um
[speaker002:] find time for it on a given day and
[speaker001:] years ago I used to uh referee football and uh to stay in condition I did that uh just as a normal basis and uh uh
[speaker002:] yes yes
[speaker001:] I tell you just by doing it uh well example this summer I I was about fifteen pounds heavier than I wanted to be so I I increased I do three hundred sit ups a day now but not at that in the morning I do a hundred then and then I do about a hundred before supper and about a hundred before I go to bed I lost fifteen pounds
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] just by doing that because you tighten your stomach muscles and you can you know you can eat anything you want drink anything you want but you don't you know within within reason you know you can lose weight or maintain your weight and your physical your physical being and uh
[speaker002:] yes um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] I just you know you're ready to go at a I I I think it's really important
[speaker002:] well I I I whenever I do it I feel good
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I mean good that I have done good because it's it seems right and good because it has good effects but but it's this maintaining a a regular habit that I just can't seem to do
[speaker001:] well well that's why Chuck I think uh if you did it on a daily basis and you didn't need elaborate things you know where you can make excuses like
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] well I I like biking and during summer I'll do you know at least seventy five miles a week and when I really was doing it maybe a hundred and fifty but you can't
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] you know there's excuses the weather or you don't have time or something like that
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but if you do some basic exercises and you say every morning just like brushing your teeth you're gonna spend fifteen minutes or a half hour and you get up a half hour earlier
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and once you start getting into that one you just feel good and you look a whole lot better
[speaker002:] yes yes do you do you does your wife participate in any of this or
[speaker001:] unfortunately not and there's no way I can get her to so it's a like it's something you either just really want to do it or you can't talk anyone into it if you don't like to exercise you know it isn't going to happen but
[speaker002:] um-hum  yes yes
[speaker001:] I I sure wish she would she's you know unfortunately overweight and but she's a wonderful woman and you know no sense getting in arguments with her anybody about it
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah yeah well I uh I uh I keep saying if somebody else would do it with me I that would be a little bit of peer pressure would help considerably
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] but you seemed to have solved solved that problem without any any external
[speaker001:] no problem at all and uh if you get one of these mats you know go to a store they normally have these exercise things these ABCs of physical fitness on them
[speaker002:] help yes
[speaker001:] my one of my kids got me one of those for Christmas one year and uh
[speaker002:] what what what what's on what's this mat I mean in
[speaker001:] it it it's just an exercise mat that rolls up so you can put it out you know just in the corner
[speaker002:] is it like the sort of thing you take on a camping trip and sleep on it I mean it's that it's that kind of like half inch of foam or something
[speaker001:] well yeah you can do that but but it doesn't yeah yeah it's a foam thing yeah yeah and it's it's just about six feet long it rolls up
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and I don't take it on trips with me I you could but uh I don't mind uh you know if I do like sit ups I'll throw a a towel down or something and you know so you don't have the abrasive
[speaker002:] yeah