[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] Well, if you're from Iowa, you must be very artsy crafty. Everyone I've ever known from the Midwest can do everything with their hands.
[speaker001:] Oh, well, [LAUGHTER] actually I'm from California and before then I was from Utah. So.
[speaker002:] I didn't know anyone ever moved from California to Kan-, Iowa?
[speaker001:] Well, I grew up in California, and then I went to school in Utah, and I got married there and we stayed there for a while, and then, now we're in U-, Iowa [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I'm teasing, only because I'm from Indiana.
[speaker001:] Oh, really.
[speaker002:] I really like, I like the Midwest.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] But I married a Texan, and they have a way of dragging you back home.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Anyway, we're supposed to be talking about crafts. Do you, um, do you have any hobbies that, that you do things with your hands
[speaker001:] Um.
[speaker002:] like knitting or,
[speaker001:] Well, I crochet, and I do water color, and I, um, sew and I do fabric painting.
[speaker002:] Oh, you do a lot then. Do you do needlepoint also and cross stitching?
[speaker001:] Um, I've done some cross stitching. I haven't tried any needlepoint yet. How about you?
[speaker002:] Um, actually I, I'm pretty untalented [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Oh, right.
[speaker002:] I used to do a lot of knitting and crocheting, um, but I, I don't know, somehow I don't have the time anymore. But I have all these friends that wherever you go, they, they sit down and the next thing you know, they pull out of their, uh,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] bags some, their most recent, uh, needle craft
[speaker001:] Oh, really.
[speaker002:] and in December everyone was doing stockings, you know
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] these gorgeous, detailed
[speaker001:] Oh, gosh.
[speaker002:] minute, tiny stitch stockings.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah, well those take a lot of time.
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] I only can do things that are pretty fast, because we just, um, got our baby last year, and I just don't have the patience to just, you know, do something.
[speaker002:] Is this your first baby?
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Have you crocheted or knitted any baby clothes or baby blankets?
[speaker001:] Um, I crocheted an afghan for our bed. That's the only thing, and, and I did a quilt, let's see, I've done a quilt for our baby and I've done a quilt for our bed, but I mean,
[speaker002:] Did you embroidery the pattern and then quilt it yourself, or
[speaker001:] Um.
[speaker002:] how did you make a quilt?
[speaker001:] Um, our baby's quilt, it was a pre, like the design, I just went around the design
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] in the quilt. I didn't piece it or anything like that but, uh,
[speaker002:] But you actually hand quilted it yourself?
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, and,
[speaker002:] Did, did you need a loom, or were you a-, was it small enough that you could just hold it?
[speaker001:] Um, I put it on the frame, the quilting frame. Have you, are you familiar with that?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Yeah, okay [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] But, um, my, again, my mother back in Indiana, we had a quilting frame in our basement, and she would, she would quilt whole quilts by herself.
[speaker001:] Oh, my God.
[speaker002:] Um, yes, which, I was always amazed. I have one of them. Um, but, uh, you know, to have the quilting frame and then to actually do that, it's a tremendous amount of work.
[speaker001:] Well, I haven't done tons of them [LAUGHTER]. But, um, I used to do more before, um, before I had, before we got our baby, but.
[speaker002:] Oh, you think, children, you can, um, use crafts to make wonderful things for children.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I think when babies, I think afghans and, and the crocheted little sweaters, and, are, are wonderful. And, and they'll wear them [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yes, exactly.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Once they get old enough to talk then they no longer will wear them [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Well, one thing that I like about this fabric painting thing is I can just make a T shirt and put a little ruffle around it and then, um, cut out a little pattern from the material, from some material, like flowers or something, and make, um, a design or, you know, a little arrangement or something on the shirt and, you know, fuse it on with Heat and Bond, or whatever and then paint around it. And I usually sew, sew around the flower, whatever first, and then I paint around it so you can't see the stitching as much. Does, does that make sense to you? So.
[speaker002:] Oh, yes, I think it's very clever. It's, uh, funny that you said. For Christmas, my daughter and I received matching sweat shirts
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] that a friend had made for us. A beautiful Christmas design, and they were matching and they were lovely, but when I washed them, although I took the precaution of turning them inside out
[speaker001:] Oh, sure.
[speaker002:] I really didn't do anything else.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And truly, everything fell off, or
[speaker001:] Oh, really.
[speaker002:] most of it. So I had, I went and bought just some cloth glue and glued it all back and I bought the paint and redid most of the edges
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] and, and it was salvageable [LAUGHTER], and I, but it's, so I'm familiar with that, but I think you're very clever to, um, sew around the edges. I think gluing alone, certainly if you wash it any amount of time, it
[speaker001:] Well.
[speaker002:] tends to kind of come loose at the edges.
[speaker001:] Yeah, someone told me that, that it, that they had done it both ways, and I've always, after hearing that, I always sewed it on, even, even with the, uh, a loose zigzag even helps [LAUGHTER]. And, um,