[speaker001:] yes we're going there
[speaker002:] on our way
[speaker001:] well uh this is a good topic for me because I just got off a jury on Friday
[speaker002:] oh I'll bet it is a good topic then
[speaker001:] yeah have you ever been on a jury before
[speaker002:] I have been on a jury once and it was an experience of a lifetime
[speaker001:] uh-huh really what kind of a trial was it
[speaker002:] it was just a it was like a civil suit um and I really felt that by the end of it I had no respect whatsoever for our jury system
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh really what what did you think was wrong with it
[speaker002:] yep it well we all had to agree it well we didn't all have to agree because it was a civil suit
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] ten out of twelve had to agree and we had like twelve questions and the exact same ten people had to agree on all twelve questions
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] and that's really hard I mean we deliberated for ten hours and that was a long time and people got with each other and I mean it just was not a good situation
[speaker001:] yeah wow yeah um-hum hm that's interesting
[speaker002:] well and you know by the end of it I didn't feel like anybody won I feel like we compromised compromised until we got to the point that nobody won
[speaker001:] really wow that's
[speaker002:] what about yours
[speaker001:] well I've been on two actually and the first one I was on was also a civil trial but it was real apparent to all of us what what the situation was so it was real simple
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] um and we only deliberated as maybe three hours and we weren't really deliberating we were reading through the whole charge and and trying to understand what the judge had written but I mean beyond that we really didn't have much debate um but the one I just got off of was capital murder trial
[speaker002:] yeah oh wow
[speaker001:] and uh that uh um I don't know if it's fortunate or not I was an alternate so I sat through five days of the trial and it's sort of like seeing five days of a movie and missing the last ten minutes because I don't know what happened yet
[speaker002:] oh because you weren't allowed to go into deliberations were you
[speaker001:] and that's right that's right and they also they can't report it on TV or anything so I don't know you know until it's completely over I won't know what happened
[speaker002:] oh wow
[speaker001:] so it was it was really interesting and and I can see
[speaker002:] are are you real definite as to how you think you would have voted and everything
[speaker001:] I I was leaning one way or another but I really needed to look at some of the evidence to make sure
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but it it you know it was fairly clear and I talked to the judge afterwards and you know and knowing what I know know now which the other jurors didn't know I'd definitely convict the guy because he was he was found involved in two more of them and he was caught on the scene a the third one
[speaker002:] oh wow
[speaker001:] so it was it was fairly obvious you know that he had done it and eventually I'm sure one of the in one of the three trials they'll probably convict him if not the first but uh
[speaker002:] but is this one the first
[speaker001:] this is the first one they tried him on yes so it was it was
[speaker002:] wow where are you from
[speaker001:] um I'm in North Dallas where are you
[speaker002:] oh okay Plano
[speaker001:] oh okay well this happened in Plano you'll be thrilled to know
[speaker002:] what trial are you talking about
[speaker001:] excuse me
[speaker002:] what trial are you talking about
[speaker001:] um well the one I was involved was at uh Warehouse Beverage it's on uh I think it's Fifteenth and Avenue K and the one he was later involved in was the Texaco one
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I don't know what the third one was
[speaker002:] oh my well I'll have to watch the paper then when did they go into when did they go into deliberations
[speaker001:] but the Texaco one yeah that on Friday but that was just the the guilt and innocence phase and I don't know you know then there is the punishment phase after that
[speaker002:] oh now is the jury going to decide the punishment phase
[speaker001:] um well all they can decide they don't really tell say we want capital punishment or we want something or life imprisonment you know if they find him guilty those are the two options for capital murder but they had six six choices what he was guilty of uh
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] but all they can do there is three questions that they have to evaluate one being could he be a future threat to people well he's already proven that but you know a couple questions like that and your answers are yes or no and if you get I think it is three yeses it's capital punishment
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] or you can decide if there is mitigating fact or something to that effect but it's not like you go and say you know we we recommend this punishment you just say we answered these questions this way
[speaker002:] wow and that's what it that's what it leads to
[speaker001:] and it leads you to the punishment yeah
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] so it was really interesting and I wish I knew if they were still in deliberations but I don't
[speaker002:] um well it is it when did you say it was Friday
[speaker001:] so Friday they went into deliberations but I don't know if the press can report at the end of the the guilt and innocence phase or if they have to wait until the whole punishment thing is over because that will take another couple weeks
[speaker002:] Saturday Sunday Monday um I don't know wow
[speaker001:] so but it was it was really interesting
[speaker002:] so you enjoyed yours then
[speaker001:] well I it I learned a lot what I didn't enjoy was not being able to plan anything in my whole life because I mean as far as I knew this could take months some of them do
[speaker002:] right oh yeah some of them do
[speaker001:] and that was the thing you know with Christmas and everything and I couldn't make reservations to go home but uh you know now that it's over it was really interesting
[speaker002:] who is the judge
[speaker001:] um Nathan or Nathaniel White
[speaker002:] Nathaniel