[speaker001:] all right uh I think we pay a little bit too much in taxes and we don't always get what we pay for
[speaker002:] I agree I'm particularly worried about Social Security since I'm at the end of the baby boomer generation and there's not gonna be any money left when I get through so I kind of feel like I'm supporting a lot of people and that it's just gonna go into a hole I don't think that I'm gonna get anything out of it when the time comes from
[speaker001:] yeah no
[speaker002:] it other than that yeah
[speaker001:] yeah I I kind of feel the same way you know you pay all this money into Social Security and then you're not gonna get anything back out of it you know
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] because you're paying for everybody that uses it now and it's not gonna be there when you need it
[speaker002:] right everybody there's not gonna be enough people to support us when we get our age up that way but
[speaker001:] yep
[speaker002:] we'll be supporting we're they're we're a lot of people right now supporting a few people and then when the time comes and it's a few people supporting a lot of people it's not gonna even out very fairly
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] that way I don't have to I don't worry about the other I don't have state taxes really because I'm from Texas so I'm happy with that I'm worried about it though because every year they sit there and try to put more taxes in you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and they're trying to get property tax in our county but
[speaker001:] yeah well well well well I think some of the taxes that pay you know you're paying more for the people to to disburse the money out than you are for uh the money to be spent you know like on education and stuff
[speaker002:] yeah there's so much administration and nothing when it when it comes right down to it the overhead is it get everything gets eaten up in overhead and doesn't actually do do much
[speaker001:] yeah so I I feel like some of like I said some most of the taxes that we pay are not being used for what they're supposed to be used for
[speaker002:] yeah I was thinking the other day you know it was like no taxation without representation and so long ago and now we're just eaten alive by all this government that can't pay for itself and goes into debt more and more and more and more and we don't have much say about it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and the government doesn't seem to do a be doing a whole lot of things I like either
[speaker001:] uh yeah and and they like they use taxes to to make grants to people that
[speaker002:] they're going
[speaker001:] you know they wanna find out how come butterflies do fly and all other kinds and I think that's kind of stupid
[speaker002:] yeah and then this National Endowment for the Arts thing where they they put pornography up in the in the name of art you know
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and make me pay for it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] my you know I I don't exactly appreciate that either I really get frustrated when government starts to do things that are immoral and then expect me to support them on it
[speaker001:] yeah and
[speaker002:] first you get to the point where it's like you feel like protesting by not paying just to make them understand that they can't do this just because you know it's our money they're using
[speaker001:] yep
[speaker002:] for it they can't just think well it's ours now we got it we can do what we want with it
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] it says that I'm standing it it says I approve if I sit there and pay it and I get kind of upset about that
[speaker001:] yeah I can understand that because and uh it's it you know like you said it makes you upset and it makes me upset too when I hear stuff like that and I just heard on the news tonight where they all them people in Congress overdrafted themselves and they you know finally gonna come out with everybody's name now saying who done it
[speaker002:] well that's good
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] yeah you start to feel real powerless
[speaker001:] yep
[speaker002:] but on the other hand at least we're we're powerless in a lot of ways but then there's so many other countries that I'm glad I'm not in
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] you know it seems to me like the minute you starting putting in any radical changes in anything you end up with something like um Liberia or uh Czechoslovakia you know I mean it seems like I'd rather try to work from inside the system to change something than to throw away what we've got now
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] it would be pretty frightening the other way around it's kind of scary now seeing the way
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] they're going over there
[speaker001:] oh yeah uh that and you know like a lot of our tax money goes to helping other countries and stuff and I think we ought to use a lot of that money here in the states before we send it to someplace else