[speaker001:] so uh what do you wear to work
[speaker002:] uh well uh traditionally I wear a pair of blue jeans and a dress shirt
[speaker001:] all right
[speaker002:] uh and and uh uh leather shoes it's pretty casual
[speaker001:] yeah well that's good where do you work
[speaker002:] uh at the for the Navy I work in uh research right right
[speaker001:] NTSC huh I used to work in that building right right before I worked at Honeywell I worked at ARI which is on the PM trade side
[speaker002:] uh-huh right right
[speaker001:] all right imagine that  there's all kinds of uh coincidences here um yeah that's that's a pretty good environment actually when I worked for ARI they made me wear uh well they didn't make make wear anything but they prefer that I wore something almost tieish
[speaker002:] yeah real close there yes it's uh it depends upon the interaction you have with the outside world and I have several suits that if I'm going to interact with the outside world or with upper management that I will dress accordingly
[speaker001:] right right okay
[speaker002:] but for day to day work uh it's pretty casual
[speaker001:] all right what kind of research do you do Kyle
[speaker002:] uh flight simulation
[speaker001:] get out are you kidding me
[speaker002:] nope yeah that's what I do
[speaker001:] I'm uh I'm working with flight controls and displays up here at Honeywell um in fact my dissertation will involve uh auditory warnings
[speaker002:] well that's interesting
[speaker001:] eye cast things like that so uh yeah it's amazing
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] um no up here at Honeywell we generally it's real real laid back in terms of dress uh most people have never seen a tie I don't think unless they're meeting with a with a customer
[speaker002:] right I should've remembered that the last time I was up there
[speaker001:] yeah and oh you were up at oh that's right you said you'd spend some time up here at Honeywell
[speaker002:] yeah I went up there it's been four uh about three four years now
[speaker001:] do you remember which department or which branch you were at
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] probably not huh
[speaker002:] uh Minneapolis whoever makes the
[speaker001:] okay yeah I'm not real sure about that I've only been up here a little while so I'm still kind of getting the hang of it but actually I'll be back down in May to finish my degree so uh that'll be good
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] do you have much connection with the human factors people down there
[speaker002:] uh in fact yes I do uh as soon as I get out of some work I'm doing right now I'll be talking to them uh uh and getting some low cost uh uh equipment together to do some uh human factor studies
[speaker001:] yeah all right great well I'll probably be using some of it I hope when I get back give me a good vehicle to do my dissertation on maybe but uh yeah actually that it's and all those people
[speaker002:] right I'll be working with uh uh Carolyn Carolyn Prince
[speaker001:] oh okay right great but uh no aside from that I don't think I've worn a tie more than about once here and that's uh
[speaker002:] well it's pretty casual here
[speaker001:] yes they kind of had to twist my arm to do that because I wasn't meeting with a customer but you know how that works
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but uh
[speaker002:] oh the jeans are new I mean it's not like they're they're bleached out or
[speaker001:] well yeah it sounds like you got all holes over the place now the guys that
[speaker002:] no no no
[speaker001:] the guys that I'm working with here the guy that I work directly with uh in my office he usually comes in in real ripped jeans he's pretty uh real casual in fact almost too casual
[speaker002:] I'm not quite that bad
[speaker001:] plus uh yeah I was kind of surprised to see that actually
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] so uh where else did you work before that
[speaker002:] I've been I've been working here for the center for uh uh nine years nine plus years now
[speaker001:] yeah all right you like it
[speaker002:] yeah it has it's it's it's you know it had it's had its good times and bad times but for the most part yeah I think it's pretty good
[speaker001:] yeah I I liked it too it it's kind of weird that that environment is is different than a lot of other environments just because you're in in a little maze of cubicles you know and it's kind of it's just
[speaker002:] yeah it's kind of like being in a rat trap
[speaker001:] yeah it is in a way and
[speaker002:] and I keep on wondering where the cheese is
[speaker001:] presumably that's supposed to be the paycheck right but who's to say
[speaker002:] well that's awfully small cheese if you ask me then
[speaker001:] yeah no kidding but uh now that the whole idea of them pumping white noise over the speakers to mask out the telephones and things like that it's kind of interesting
[speaker002:] yeah there was a lot of uh thought put into that because I I I because when I go to other new facilities whether it be uh uh uh uh McDonald Douglas some of the other new facilities I've been to there's
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and little things that they point out to me when I was walking around well this was done because of this or this was done because of that
[speaker001:] so they're actually kind of thinking it through huh
[speaker002:] yeah oh well the architect tries to throw it in but uh sometimes I wonder when they put back the people that's supposed to be monitoring the building
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] uh how much reins they got but they give them an award
[speaker001:] well that's I guess that's the important part for them but uh so what do you uh do you think you're going to stick around there for a while or do think
[speaker002:] uh yeah yeah there's there's uh prospect job prospects with another company that I should know uh more we've been talking back and forth for about a year and a half now
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I've actually I'm actually kind of looking for work when I get back