[speaker001:] Wayne I've uh feel very strongly about parents doing things with their children and making time available even sometimes when time isn't available how do you feel about it
[speaker002:] well yeah I feel much the same way I've uh two kids right now one is two and a half and one's nine months and uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] that age of course everything you do they're trying to learn to do and so uh it's important for you to spend time doing the things that you want them to learn you know that that they need to learn at the age you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] reading and uh reading and playing nice with others and that sort of thing
[speaker001:] yeah we went through this with our children and now with our grandchildren and I've always tried to do things with them uh like when you're at the little league helping out even though I'm not a good athlete myself I was able to help the coach in in just controlling the kids if nothing else and we've always uh oh tried to take our children and now now at this age our grandchildren to see and do things that otherwise they might not be able to I think that's just part of their overall educational process is to get out and see and do things
[speaker002:] right uh-huh
[speaker001:] yeah yeah so it's uh we have uh lived several places around the the US and we have where we've lived we've taken them to see and do things of interest and of historical significance in the area like when we lived in Tennessee we we took them to Washington DC to see all the capitol and and things like that when they were small and that just uh it helps I think the children to when they're learning in school to say well I've been there and I've seen that
[speaker002:] right uh-huh
[speaker001:] yeah yeah so uh that's the type
[speaker002:] yeah it certainly does because uh you know the things in the books seem so dead to the kids and you know unless they've actually been there or whatever because I remember our family well we went we went everywhere and uh uh seeing New England and uh being on Plymouth Rock and stuff like that was uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] really made the whole thing more uh visual and you could uh read the things in the history books and understand what they said when it was like we need food we need to raise food quickly because this this place gets very cold very soon
[speaker001:] yes yeah  yeah yeah we've uh gone through that uh I remember my parents didn't do all those type things and so I made a special effort with my children to do things like that and even now with my grandchildren I feel it's a very important thing to be done
[speaker002:] right because if uh kids don't look up to you or or can't can't feel they can spend time with you they're going to find someone else and uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know nowadays there's a lot of people out there that you don't want your kid to emulating or whatever
[speaker001:] yeah well I can remember one of the things I'm most proud of is uh when my son was I think it was in the sixth grade they had to write uh a little brief autobiography of themselves and about what they had done and what they wanted to do and I was very proud when my son wrote that he wanted to uh have a family and be able to help coach little league and do things like his dad had done with him a real a real point of pride with me
[speaker002:] yeah that is nice
[speaker001:] yeah excuse me we sound like we both have colds
[speaker002:] yeah well it's um well it's uh uh ten o'clock here in Falls Church Virginia so that the only reason I'm home is because I'm home with a cold and the wife says well you need something to do talk to the guy on the phone
[speaker001:] oh oh oh well you're kind yeah well I'm sitting here on the ninth floor of an office building on the north side of Dallas Texas so we're we're kind of far apart here
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] we've uh this is a very interesting program I I've heard about here on this and when I signed up for it it uh looked like it could be uh make a real contribution in in participating and uh
[speaker002:] right yeah I'm uh electrical engineer by trade
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh here in Virginia likewise we uh we do some projects every now and then we like to get support from uh other other companies as well so
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I'm an accountant presently working as a contractor liquidating a failed savings and loan so you know trying to work myself out of a job but it's it's been an interesting uh roughly oh nine months here and uh
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] again this is our home area we've lived here about seventeen years and it's uh we enjoy living here it's where we originally started out and we've lived up north for a while in Chicago and over in Tennessee so wound up back about two hundred miles aware away from where we started out
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] well uh that's about all I can think to talk about right now it's been a pleasure talking with you
[speaker002:] okay right bye-bye
[speaker001:] thank you bye