[speaker001:] I'm ready if you are.
[speaker002:] Okay. Um, wh-, where do you stand, uh, on,
[speaker001:] Well, I think that people should be allowed to have them. Especially
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] if they go hunting, which my son goes hunting. He goes deer hunting. He goes duck hunting. Uh, he's read books about guns since he was
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] like probably eleven or twelve years old.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And I just think that, uh, as far as that's concerned, he should be able to have them to go hunting with, you know. As far as
[speaker002:] Right, right.
[speaker001:] just having handguns around to, to have them, I don't believe that you should have handguns around.
[speaker002:] Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I agree too. I, uh, it's, it's, as far as the ban goes and everything, I don't think it's possible, uh, to completely ban guns. There's just too many.
[speaker001:] Well, no. There's too many sports people out there that, that do do these things.
[speaker002:] Right, and I, yeah, right, I mean, yeah, that, that's true. And I mean the, the technology's not that hard. I mean, you could make a gun, you know, from simple, you know, you know.
[speaker001:] Yeah, well I suppose you could. Uh,
[speaker002:] You know, if, if you really wanted a gun, you, you could make one. Uh,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. And I think if they want one, they're going to get one.
[speaker002:] [Cough] [throat clearing] Oh, you know
[speaker001:] You know.
[speaker002:] true. That's true.
[speaker001:] The bad guys are, you know, like I say, if they want a gun they're going to find out
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] somehow to get one.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, I mean, yeah there's, there's no way to stop, uh, stop anybody from getting a gun. Uh, [dishes] I think there should be more control as, like, uh, like maybe waiting periods and things like that, you know, uh,
[speaker001:] Well I agree with you on that because I know, uh, in fact I had bought my son a rifle like for a Christmas present one time.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And for a rifle there's no waiting. There wasn't anyhow. Now there might be now.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] there wasn't anything for, you know, rifles and things like that. I guess
[speaker002:] Sure.
[speaker001:] it was just handguns that there was a, some kind
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] of a waiting, you know, two weeks while they checked you out or something.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] But, uh, most of these people that's got these guns that's going around, you know, robbing people and shooting people,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh, I, I know my friend is, uh, really into guns and, uh, uh, w-, I went a couple of times with him to gun shows, you know, that
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] come through town and everything and, I mean, they just have, I mean they have anything you'd want, I mean
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] you know, you know, anywhere from rifles and semiautomatic weapons and [breathing] there's, I mean, there's nothing. You can just go buy one and take it home and it's easier than getting a, like a video membership card at, you know, a video store.
[speaker001:] I, see now, I know they were having a gun show about a month ago and I was just wondering how that did work, if somebody wanted to buy a gun at a gun show.
[speaker002:] Uh, yeah, yeah. You just go and, uh, buy the gun and, uh,
[speaker001:] There's no restriction though. You don't have to wait or nothing then huh?
[speaker002:] No. Well, except for the, the pistols and th-, I'm not sure how they do that. I know they,
[speaker001:] Yeah, I was just curious, you know, because, uh
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I know at, at the regular gun show, you know, gun shop
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] that you,
[speaker002:] [Noise].
[speaker001:] that you do have to wait for pistols, like a couple
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] of weeks and then they check you out, then they call you up and you h-, go pick it up.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I think that's,
[speaker001:] Which I think [NOISE] they have to do on rifles and things now too. I think there
[speaker002:] Uh-huh [NOISE].
[speaker001:] is some, something like that. Anyhow, here, out here in California, I think there is now.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah
[speaker001:] But,
[speaker002:] I'm not sure, I'm not really sure but, what uh, th-, the gun laws in P-, Pennsylvania are like.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Now we don't have guns because
[speaker002:] No.
[speaker001:] we don't go hunting or anything like that.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But like I say, my son, he's,
[speaker002:] [Cough] [someone in background].
[speaker001:] he's always had a, like, I think his first little rifle that we got him was like he twelve or thirteen years old.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But he's always, he went to the, to the school to learn how to shoot it. He goes to the pistol range and th-, and the rifle range to shoot them. He likes to go to that, uh, shotgun thing where you shoot at those, uh
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. The skeets, you mean?
[speaker001:] yeah, right [LAUGHTER]. He likes to do that
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] you know [LAUGHTER]. But, uh
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I don't know. I think they should try to control it and everything, you know. But as far as just banning it completely, there, that's not going to happen.
[speaker002:] I don't, yeah, I, I don't think it can happen either.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I just don't, I don't see, and, then, I, I think, uh, hadn't thought about this before but if you do that, if they would, uh, [breathing] uh, decide to ban guns, it would just open up a, a market, you know, a black market for them.
[speaker001:] Yeah, right, right.
[speaker002:] And so, you know, they, they would just, all the profits would go to, you know,
[speaker001:] Now I do believe though, like in California, if a little kid gets a hold of a gun that someone has
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I think they're liable now for, they
[speaker002:] Oh, th-,
[speaker001:] can be, you know, put in jail and everything. The, whoever owned the gun.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah, the owner's responsibility?
[speaker001:] You know, now
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] when they have kids around, you'd think that they would be locking them up or, you know.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah, you know, that's, that's true. Uh, you know, I, I had a friend who was a, uh, [lipsmack] [sniffing] a policeman in a, in a local borough just a small, uh, one of the little neighborhoods, you know, one of the small towns, uh
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] near Pittsburgh. And, uh, she said tha-, that, that, uh, you know, he used to always keep his guns locked up and everything like that but, I mean, you know, you're, you know, people make, you know, they forget or, you know, you know, kids get in, the way kids, the way kids are, you know, I mean, they can, you know.
[speaker001:] Well they can get into almost anything anymore [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Right.