[speaker001:] we're supposed to talk about dining what kind of dining do you like to do
[speaker002:] well we're in the Dallas area are you also
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah grapevine yeah yeah I'm in Grapevine uh Fort Worth Dallas area
[speaker002:] pardon uh-huh well we uh we don't do a lot of family dining out uh but but my husband and I do
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] we do all kinds of different things so was that you
[speaker001:] yes can you believe that
[speaker002:] oh okay well I just didn't know if I needed to go and whoop up on my kids quick or
[speaker001:] whatever no I just let it go
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] uh it'll they'll call back
[speaker002:] well the uh my husband and I used to try to go out like one evening of a weekend or something
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and sometimes we'll even go during the daytime for lunch
[speaker001:] oh that's nice
[speaker002:] so if we have the opportunity just because it's quieter
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] we don't like the bar atmosphere
[speaker001:] yeah they usually stick you in there for an hour you know or even when there are plenty of tables that always makes me mad that just to get you to buy drinks I guess and
[speaker002:] uh-huh now
[speaker001:] I don't mind waiting thirty minutes but boy if it gets over thirty minutes it really irritates me
[speaker002:] yeah and we aren't drinkers so you know for us that's just kind of wasted time time we just but now we do go to this one little place out here on the expressway uh Cheddars
[speaker001:] yeah uh-huh yeah I
[speaker002:] and they have a uh
[speaker001:] I ate there Friday as a matter of fact at lunch
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum well they have a big screen TV
[speaker001:] yeah in Dallas the one in Fort Worth oh okay
[speaker002:] in their bar area lounge area and we don't mind that because we both love basketball and like to watch basketball
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but I uh oh I don't like the fights and stuff and sometimes you see those
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but and if if it's a wild and crazy music that turns us off too
[speaker001:] me too me too
[speaker002:] but we uh
[speaker001:] yeah I like uh there's not too many restaurants I don't like to go to I just I just like to eat out but I uh
[speaker002:] we do too we we do too I I wish we could do more often I imagine when all our kids get gone and grown that we'll
[speaker001:] yeah you will mine are mine are grown and gone in fact I'm going over tonight to my son's house he's taking me out tonight for Mother's Day and then my I'm going to brunch in the morning with my daughter for Mother's for Mother's Day uh so
[speaker002:] how fun how fun
[speaker001:] I'll have of course I'm on a diet but I guess I'll go off of it for this weekend
[speaker002:] well don't you think though there are a lot more options available for people who are watching
[speaker001:] yeah and you know you
[speaker002:] you know you're seeing a lot more grilled chicken and fish without breading on it and
[speaker001:] right yeah absolutely and that's
[speaker002:] you know I never hesitate ever anymore to ask for my dressing on the side or to eliminate sour cream or anything like that and they're always willing to help and accommodate
[speaker001:] yeah yeah they are and I really even all the fast foods they're coming out with the grilled chicken and I eat a lot of those you know and even if I
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] I I don't eat steak too much I love steak and I have to have it every every now and then but normally I'm I I try and stay away from the red the red meats if I go to a steak house I will eat one but I don't you know gorge myself
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I love steak too and you know a lot of times we'll our favorite place to eat for steak is Steak and Ale
[speaker001:] it yeah now I've never gotten a bad meal there have you I just you know they're consistently good
[speaker002:] hum-um no no and just always you know always quiet and pleasant and
[speaker001:] yeah they're uh I I found that if you call and make reservations oh I uh you they used to irritate me making us wait so long but uh now I found if I call and make reservations they usually get you in pretty fast so
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum oh the uh uh one out here is just always very accommodating you know we like a lot of ethnic foods too we we like to go different places and
[speaker001:] uh-huh I do too well I love Chinese I love oriental food and I love seafood and uh but I also like I I don't mind paying for atmosphere
[speaker002:] yep yeah I don't either
[speaker001:] I I it doesn't bother me at all and uh if I and I don't and I'm not opposed to tipping very well if I if the service is good but boy I it really irritates me to well like in Cheddars yesterday I know that the girl just forgot our order and we were on a lunch hour you know and my gosh she just
[speaker002:] you waiting and waiting and waiting
[speaker001:] and I know I thought gosh my whole lunch hour I'm just sitting here waiting here for a lousy sandwich so I went ahead and tipped her but I didn't want to
[speaker002:] was mad yeah and you know that that's part of their wage and that they get busy and stuff you but but you wouldn't tip as much as you would have had
[speaker001:] yes I know it right yeah right but that that and I do I tip accordingly oh believe me I if the
[speaker002:] you know the uh I do too I think that that's service related and you know
[speaker001:] I do too but I hate cheap people that that get good service and don't tip that irritates me just as bad and I've been out with guys that have embarrassed me that don't tip
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] you know well I it really uh
[speaker002:] makes you want to just kind of slip a little more under there
[speaker001:] yeah it really and I have I have slipped money you know if if the guy didn't tip enough I'll take money out of my purse but a
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and I hope it makes them feel bad but I don't think it does
[speaker002:] no probably not they figure I guess they figure that's your choice well uh I know uh my I have teenagers and just recently I was out with a group of teenagers for semester exams
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh if I said I would provide transportation at lunchtime for them to go and out to eat and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] so all these little kids here they all want their own tickets you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and I said right up front now kids actually I kind of said it to my daughter and if I was going to do it again I would say it to the whole group because I was too uh I was I was too shy I didn't not too shy I just didn't want to embarrass her
[speaker001:] okay uh-huh
[speaker002:] but what happened was I ended up having to loan money to those kids because they did not figure in the tip and the tax
[speaker001:] oh did you really um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] they looked at that and said three ninety five they say I got four dollars I can do this
[speaker001:] and they thought that really yeah yeah
[speaker002:] you know so they buy the get the three ninety five item and you know then they didn't have enough for the extra so
[speaker001:] and I found the also that uh I don't think that waitresses I yeah I was in a survey when I lived in Orlando uh had a was in a survey of restaurants and uh the I a lot of the waiters and waitresses think you know when women come in that that women are lousy tippers and that's why they don't give them as good a service as they do a couple or something like that but I don't think that's true I think women
[speaker002:] just that you know a single woman an individual of any kind is not going to have as large an order
[speaker001:] to me right
[speaker002:] as two or three at a table
[speaker001:] well I find that women are more willing to give a good tip a bunch of women as
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] uh couples or or you know guys together probably
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I don't think they're that but that they were on this survey they were saying that the that's the notion that women have I mean that waitress and waitresses had but uh
[speaker002:] well I I yeah I definitely disagree with that
[speaker001:] I like one of my favorites in Dallas is uh Baby Doe's you have you ever eaten there
[speaker002:] um-hum been a long time been a long time
[speaker001:] oh yeah I love it oh gosh it's I like the atmosphere I remember when they first opened up I we went several times and uh it was it was so much fun but I like I said I like to go to restaurants like that I and I like these um have you ever been to what when I lived in Orlando they had call a place called Shakespeare's and they probably have one similar to it here where medieval
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh the medieval
[speaker001:] yeah those are kind of fun I wouldn't want a steady diet of it but
[speaker002:] kind of uh a tavern pub kind of thing
[speaker001:] yeah and have the wenches wait on you
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] it was a lot of fun I I enjoyed that
[speaker002:] we uh we were at the butcher shop in the West End here recently and that was sure neat it cook your own steak and those steaks were wonderful
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah where you cook your own steak yeah yeah yeah weren't they I I've eaten there that was that's good but
[speaker002:] it was uh I really enjoyed that
[speaker001:] I remember back when that was just old warehouses down there I couldn't believe when I moved back to Dallas how that had changed
[speaker002:] yeah exactly exactly same here I grew up in the area
[speaker001:] yeah I remember I think Spaghetti Warehouse was about the only thing down there for years and years
[speaker002:] some of my favorite ones have
[speaker001:] I guess it kind of grew around it
[speaker002:] well
[speaker001:] I moved from in eighty five when I came back all that was uh built back up
[speaker002:] had all been worked over
[speaker001:] yeah and I thought you know Deep Ellum I still don't think I'd go to Deep Ellum I don't care how chic it's supposed to be but
[speaker002:] well there's some wonderful little shops and art  art galleries and
[speaker001:] is it really I just could I just from back in the fifties I remember how bad it was and I just it just stuck in my mind and I just wouldn't go down there I don't think especially at night I might during the day but I don't think I'd go at night down there at all because it used to really be rough and tough in fact the only time I ever saw anybody stabbed out we were driving down in the street and saw a guy come out of a theater with a knife sticking out of his back and that just is stuck in my mind and he was walking too uh they were walking him to an ambulance
[speaker002:] ooh
[speaker001:] and I just I've never gone back since then
[speaker002:] that was enough to take it
[speaker001:] no that's right I don't want to go down there anymore
[speaker002:] well I think that's those kind of things definitely tend to mark your uh
[speaker001:] yeah but Dallas has really got a lot of good restaurants
[speaker002:] they really do I think Dallas is a very uh up and coming area I think it's uh
[speaker001:] yeah they just
[speaker002:] it it caters to a lot of business groups and a lot of out of towners and and regulars also and you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah are you a native Dallasite
[speaker002:] uh I came here when I was in elementary school so I consider myself native
[speaker001:] okay well I married a Dallasite and that's how I got here but I would you know I wouldn't trade for it I I'm from California but I I just consider myself a Texan when I moved to Florida I couldn't hardly wait to get back
[speaker002:] well
[speaker001:] I stayed down there four years
[speaker002:] I think uh you know that uh I think Dallas is becoming diverse enough now to accommodate almost any need
[speaker001:] yeah I think so
[speaker002:] or any desires in any kind of cooking you know Indian Greek you name it you know there's there's something for everybody and
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum um-hum I'm enjoying living over here in Grapevine and Fort Worth area too for for a change because I'm really discovering Fort Worth they've got a lot of nice restaurants over here that a lot of people don't know about you know
[speaker002:] our favorite one in Fort Worth is downtown Fort Worth kind of across from the uh The Keg
[speaker001:] The Keg is it down there by Sundance Square
[speaker002:] The Keg well it's down you know by the Convention Center
[speaker001:] yeah I I
[speaker002:] I don't know what the street is
[speaker001:] I'm not real familiar with down there I've been down there to the Sundance Square when I first uh moved back here I met my sister-in-law sister-in-law down there and uh