[speaker001:] community I'll start we have a lot of uh we we've started doing some and uh in in uh we live in a suburb of Chicago recycling has become somewhat in vogue we've always had recycling centers around where you can take in newspapers and bottles and things and put them in the right bin but it's totally voluntary and basically only the ecologically minded would go to such pains places because it's it's a drive out of your way to take things to these but recently we started a program I think is getting encourages a lot more participation which is uh you have to now pay for each trash bag that that the garbage man picks up you have to pay a dollar and a half and we uh you have to buy a sticker uh and it costs a dollar and a half and you have to put the sticker on your trash bag and if you don't have that sticker on there then the garbage man won't pick it up now that's that that's for regular trash if you have recyclable trash
[speaker002:] I would
[speaker001:] like newspapers or right now it's limited to I think the newspapers and plastic bottles plastic milk bottles then they'll pick that up for free so there's the motivation basically your regular garbage you have to pay to get picked up and recyclable stuff if you put it in a recyclable bin or recyclable uh container they they give you one of these then that that doesn't cost anything so that encourages people to participate
[speaker002:] well that's makes sense ours seems really crazy because well we've had the places all the shopping centers I mean the local shopping centers where there's a grocery store and a you know drug store and so on have bins around where you can leave papers or aluminum cans that type of thing for uh oh the Kiwanis or some sort of groups pick them up and make money for their causes and those are fairly popular and work fairly well
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and you can also take your own stuff to a recycling center and you know get the few pennies you get for the papers or cans I know some people who do that but to me that too much trouble for the few cents the uh so I just drop it off at the local place when I go to the store and let them you know some good agency make some money off of it what little they get and uh that works for me but now as I understand it from reading the paper the system seems totally backwards
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] uh they are starting a thing where all of our garbage bills are going up like a dollar and a half a month
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and that's because they will give us containers you know certain colors of bins and stuff to put cans and papers and so on in that all makes sense but if you don't want to recycle you can say I don't want to recycle and save a dollar and a half a month
[speaker001:] oh no
[speaker002:] which the theory is that if you don't want to recycle with the city who actually has a private contractor do it uh if you don't recycle with the city then you're going to take it yourself and you know make your money off of your paper and cans somehow it seems to me like people will just say I don't want to pay the buck and a half and I'll throw it in the garbage so
[speaker001:] so like somebody messed up
[speaker002:] it sounds to me like it's messed up but they've had
[speaker001:] a strategic miscalculation on their part
[speaker002:] I guess so we'll have to see what happens they're just supposed to start distributing these blue plastic containers for cans and bottles and different kind different colors for different things uh
[speaker001:] so it's totally voluntary even if you pay your dollar and a half you don't you you can still put everything in the trash
[speaker002:] you still could so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me and I think I understand it pretty well from both the paper and TV and we'll see what happens
[speaker001:] uh any idea how many people are going to do it are going to do it
[speaker002:] oh supposedly the majority are
[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] it's pretty ecologically conscious here
[speaker001:] so some of the people will go along with it anyway
[speaker002:] oh I think so plus a lot of people will probably just pay the buck and a half and not even notice the difference or care
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but uh it seems strange now at the the university where I work it's uh strange too because they have places you can leave cans and some campus organization recycles them
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] and uh there is a campus recycling bins not bins but like I work in a library
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] and there are barrels where we can recycle newspapers and different types of things but they're in staff areas but we have wanted to have specially marked trash cans next to all the copy machines