[speaker001:] Allen uh the question is concerning the changes in the roles of American women in the past several generations and you know the in their in the society we live in what do you think has occurred there
[speaker002:] well I think one of the major changes is the whole attitude towards women in the work place and the role of women in doing jobs outside of the home that's probably even one of the major changes I see over the last period of time
[speaker001:] um-hum but uh are are they being given the full uh honor for the work they're doing and for the um oh my gosh can't think of the word but for the what they have to accept well that's that they're responsible for it absolutely responsibilities is what I'm trying to say
[speaker002:] oh I don't think so I think it's come a long ways in terms of giving them equal opportunities but I still think in lots of job markets they're not treated as equals in the words in some in some respects the other direction that in some job markets they really don't wanna be treated as equals
[speaker001:] uh-huh by the same token most in in most cases women have the jobs with the same responsibility of men who been there before but at lower lower salaries is is that right wrong
[speaker002:] yes I think that's generally speaking pretty true and I think that's what we really ought to look at that going is if they're gonna do equal work they ought to get equal pay
[speaker001:] is that yes
[speaker002:] and that uh they ought to have equal opportunities to advance to those positions and I don't think we've gotten there yet
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah what changes do you think are most significant over the past few years any individual thing or is it just a general switch over
[speaker002:] oh boy I think it's generally that switch over and I and I think that switch over has been more in the work force I don't think that women are treated as equals in the home as much as they are in the work force I think those women who are out working are probably still expected to carry more responsibility at home that the husband's having them on the other side of that coin picked up as much responsibility at home so they have one and three quarters jobs now
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] whereas the husbands have one and a quarter
[speaker001:] I have a feeling that biness with a woman working out at the same level of responsibility as their husband sort of tears into their social or their loving relationship in that uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] the the lady stand wants to stand up for what she has made and her own rights and has every right to do so and this upsets the man because uh we've always been built to think that we were sort of head of the household so do you think that is gonna be uh difficult saying as far as uh marriages and people enjoying each other in the future years
[speaker002:] yes yeah and I think also in terms of parenting I think there's gonna be some increasing problem because I think women are expecting husbands to do more parenting and I'm not sure they're becoming any more skilled at it
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] because I think it really has put some additional additional stresses on family units
[speaker001:] well do you have any opinion of potential changes that may occur occur in the next generation specifically
[speaker002:] well I I think one of the things that always happens is I think we'll swing to one end whereas you know where were moving at to the end where a lot of women will be at work
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and then I think we starting to see now some tendency of women at mid thirties and so I was saying you know this career thing isn't all it's cracked up to be and I wanna go back and do something else so I think we'll probably see this swind pendulum in terms of the work force swing back a little bit
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] although so much of it's driven by economics right now people have gotten out and gotten use to two incomes coming in
[speaker001:] yes well I actually most lot of women are being hired now instead of men because they can be brought in at lower salaries because that's what everybody else assumes they're gonna get
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and the people well how do you feel about women in uh armed services
[speaker002:] well I think they ought to have the right I I have some problems with my own family thinking about my wife going to combat and or my wife or my daughter's going into combat but I have problems with men doing that and I guess if they want to they ought to have the right to do it it's nothing I'd be greatly enthusiastic about pushing for
[speaker001:] yeah um yeah I somehow can't do that I well I was brought up in the ages when the ladies were kept home safe secure and made happy and the men went out and took the responsibility of earning the money bringing in whatever they needed and and protecting the household and it and it really still bothers me and I spent plenty of years in the service but it still bothers me to see ladies out in combat or actually out in places where there's two or three of them there and five hundred men around them and how are they gonna protect themselves so to speak
[speaker002:] I agree
[speaker001:] it puts them in a very bad situation I I I really don't go for that
[speaker002:] well I think one of the other things that concern has concerned me a little bit and I think I see some change in attitudes there my wife happens to be a wife who's chosen to stay at home
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and there's a a tendency has been a tendency over the past few years to treat her as though she was somebody who didn't have much intelligence because if she did she'd be out in the work force uh and fulfilling herself
[speaker001:] yep well that's not fair because I tell I can tell you one thing stay home sometime and start uh doing some of those jobs that she's been handling and you're gonna learn there's a lot of responsibility in just keeping a home going
[speaker002:] and I hope we reach the point where whatever women women chose to do that's acceptable if they chose to go into the work force that's okay if they choose not to that's acceptable
[speaker001:] yeah yeah and if they go in the work force they should be treated as nicely as as well as a man or any other person and uh not
[speaker002:] as equals