[speaker001:] Well, do you watch much T V?
[speaker002:] Well, I watch in the evening with my kids [TV].
[speaker001:] Your kids. How many kids do you have?
[speaker002:] I have four children.
[speaker001:] Oh, goodness.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I have got two.
[speaker002:] Well,
[speaker001:] That is about all I want [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah, it keeps you busy, doesn't it?
[speaker001:] Yeah, they do. They are still babies.
[speaker002:] Uh, my children like to watch SESAME STREET. I watch with them every once in a while, but that is not my favorite programs.
[speaker001:] Oh, well. We have only get two channels. We do not have cable.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But I am not crazy about T V much. It just, well it kind of is an idiot box. Now SESAME STREET is a good program
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] because, uh, I do have that on videotape, and I will let him watch that every once in a while. And he has learned to count to twenty from that. So,
[speaker002:] Yeah. It can be very
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] educational. There are shows th-, that I like. Uh, I like good family shows,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] uh, though. Uh, I let my kids watch things like LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE.
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] And the COSBY SHOW is, uh, is, uh, kind of unrealistic as a family unless you live in upper class and have money.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] I think that sometimes the things they show on there though, uh, the problems that their kids get into, are, are good to, uh, show that they do have problems anyway.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Uh,
[speaker001:] But they also have a lot easier time disciplining their kids than real people do.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I mean, like I said, real life is not that easy.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And, uh, I watch a show that I like i-, for entertainment. Uh, it is called the QUANTUM LEAP.
[speaker001:] Oh, I love QUANTUM LEAP.
[speaker002:] I watch that show every time,
[speaker001:] Um, yes.
[speaker002:] and, uh,
[speaker001:] That is a good show.
[speaker002:] I, I like, uh, how the, how he has to help with the people that he, that he becomes.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Uh, because it is not a show that he just becomes these people and then he lives there for a while and then he is gone.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] He has to do something positive to help them.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] So I,
[speaker001:] He always got to change history is what it is.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker001:] Usually, yeah.
[speaker002:] It,
[speaker001:] That it is so good. I was glad when they put that back on this channel,
[speaker002:] Me too, me too.
[speaker001:] because like I said, we only get two channels because we do not get cable.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And still my little boy, he watches videotapes. He won't, um, this is terrible, I do not like him sitting in front of the T V all day.
[speaker002:] No, that is not terrible.
[speaker001:] Well,
[speaker002:] I do not think that is terrible at all.
[speaker001:] It, but it is a not really a good baby sitter [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Well,
[speaker001:] It is really not. He needs to get outside and play. And he is four years old, and he just does not like to go out there by himself. And I will let him watch the T V when I am wanting to get my house work done.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But other than that, I do not like him glued to the T V all the time.
[speaker002:] Well, I do not think it is, it is healthy all the time either.
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] Uh, and my kids like to, to go play with their friends, and so I guess I do not mind too much when they do watch a little bit. Now I, there are shows, I do not have cable either. And there are shows that I really put my foot down on. If there starts to be a lot of violence,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I do not go for that. I will not let them watch that. If
[speaker001:] Well, we made the mis-,
[speaker002:] there is a lot of language or,
[speaker001:] Right. We made the mistake of getting ROBOCOP. And that is one of the worst, oh, I do not let him watch it anymore. Because
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] the, the pieces, like especially where they kill somebody, it is just not good. I mean it is just real violent. I mean,
[speaker002:] Well, it, [sigh] you know, today I watched, and it is like they show bloody,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] you know, things, and they show it in slow motion. And,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and everything like that. And before, in a western or something, in the, in the olden days,
[speaker001:] You would see somebody get shot, they would just fall down.
[speaker002:] Yeah. And they were gone [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And, and it was not, uh,
[speaker001:] So graphic.
[speaker002:] not like today. Uh,
[speaker001:] Today it is, it is really graphic. They try to make
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] it too realistic.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And,
[speaker002:] Too much realism I think,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] sometimes. I don't,
[speaker001:] Now he is watching HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS right now.
[speaker002:] Oh, that is a fun show.
[speaker001:] It is, it is cute.
[speaker002:] Oh, I really
[speaker001:] And that,
[speaker002:] like that one.
[speaker001:] little ROGER RABBIT on before that.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] That is cute. And they have got THE HE MAN, uh,
[speaker002:] The cartoon or the,
[speaker001:] MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE, the
[speaker002:] Oh, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] movie. That is a real cute show.
[speaker002:] That has good moral values too.
[speaker001:] HE MAN?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Well, uh, I think, uh,
[speaker001:] Yeah, good versus evil.
[speaker002:] Yeah,
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] yeah.
[speaker001:] Oh, well, it sounds like we have the same tapes for our kids anyway.
[speaker002:] Yeah. At least we have the same
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] ideas.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah. Language too. A-, language and violence and sexual, y-, you know,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] things. I, I get kind of, uh, saying, "I am sorry kids, this is",
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And I, I think it is important that I see what they are watching. If,
[speaker001:] Yeah. They do have like those parental control things on the, uh, remote controls. You know, where you can block out what channels you do not want them to watch.
[speaker002:] You mean in cable?
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Oh, I do not know, because I do not have that. But,
[speaker001:] Well, my, my, uh, stepfather and them have, my stepfather, my father-in-law, and them have that.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, uh, they do not have any kids, but they was told how to use that. But still, when the kids get older, they learn how to break through that parental control.
[speaker002:] Oh, do they? [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] They are too smart.
[speaker001:] I think alls you have to do is push a couple buttons.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] So, it is, it is, I am hoping that he will grow up not really caring much for those movies because, now we have got a lot of western tapes.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] JOSEY WELLS, now he loves to watch JOSEY WELLS.
[speaker002:] Well, I think that is a good show too.
[speaker001:] Yeah,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Clint Eastwood.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And like THE MAN FROM SNOWY RIVER, we have, oh, my husband likes westerns. And he also likes STAR TREK. Now STAR TREK is good movies, good shows.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] The, uh, series? We have got a lot of those.
[speaker002:] Uh, I think not even the old one but the new one too. I like
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] both of those [child talking].
[speaker001:] THE NEXT GENERATION?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Yeah. My little boy is crazy about Captain Kirk.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And my little girl has Mister Spock's ears [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Oh, d-, [LAUGHTER],
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] I told my husband he cursed my kids.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] They were both born with pointy ears.
[speaker002:] Oh, well.
[speaker001:] Not real pointy. My little boy grew out of it.
[speaker002:] Oh, that is not a problem anyway,
[speaker001:] No.
[speaker002:] but it is fun [LAUGHTER] to, you know, seeing the show anyway. Uh, now I like, uh, everything Mi-, oh, no, not Michael Douglas, um, oh, I can't think of his name.
[speaker001:] Kirk Douglas?
[speaker002:] No, the, the man, right now who is having, uh, who has done, uh, BONANZA, and then he did LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE.
[speaker001:] Oh, Michael Landon.
[speaker002:] Michael Landon. There you go, Michael
[speaker001:] Oh, now there,
[speaker002:] Landon. I have always liked
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] and thought he did good shows.
[speaker001:] Like HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [Speaking to child] Here are some cookies, Kyle. [Resumes talking to Speaker B] Yeah, I liked HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN, [child talking] and I, and I thought that was kind of neat though. But I loved LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE, especially when Melissa Gilbert grew up.
[speaker002:] Yeah,
[speaker001:] She was
[speaker002:] yeah.
[speaker001:] kind of like my idol [LAUGHTER],
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] when I was growing up. Because I am twenty-seven, so it is, you know, she is about the same age as I am.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I wanted to be just like her, because she is so cute.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I, and I liked that show because it, it portrayed, I thought, really well, uh, pioneer kind of days.
[speaker001:] Yeah and,
[speaker002:] You know,
[speaker001:] well,
[speaker002:] but,
[speaker001:] I liked it,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] but there, that is about the only, uh, show I have seen where every time they sit down at the table, they pray
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] before they eat. And I thought that was real neat.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Because there is not a lot of shows that do that. [cough] And, uh, they have this little cartoon that is on Sunday mornings with,
[speaker002:] Now what is that?
[speaker001:] Jot. I remember him in school, but I do not, it is just this little dot with arms and feet and little eyes, and his parents are there. They have it like before one of the church things,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] uh, you know, church that comes on? And it is a just this little dot. And he will go out and get himself into trouble and come home, and the parents will tell him that there is a verse in the Bible that will help him with that, and,
[speaker002:] Oh, I have
[speaker001:] It is just,
[speaker002:] not seen that.
[speaker001:] Well, it is, usually we go to church on Sundays.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But we will miss every once in a while. And I will let Kyle watch that, and he just, well, I even like Jot. I mean I, it is funny.
[speaker002:] What channel is it on?
[speaker001:] It is on channel, well, let us see. You are in Plano?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Uh, it is twelve or ten down here.
[speaker002:] Well, I will look and, and see. Yeah, we go to church on Sunday. About one o'clock is when our meetings start. And, uh,
[speaker001:] Oh, well, this is of the mornings.
[speaker002:] It is in the morning?
[speaker001:] Uh, around nine or ten I think. It is before one of the, I think it is before the First Baptist in Sherman airs.
[speaker002:] Okay.
[speaker001:] I think that is the one that it,
[speaker002:] W-,
[speaker001:] uh, comes on before.
[speaker002:] Well, we'll look.
[speaker001:] It is real cute. You know what? He is bouncing around, and his name is Jot, and then he has got a friend named Cat. And I think the dog is the only one that is not a, a dot [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] But it is real cute. And like I say, they, they teach him stuff from the BIBLE. And I think it is just a real cute show. I am trying to get my little boy into reading, uh, like church books and things.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] We have got like NOAH'S ARK and, oh, LORD IS MY SHEP-. We have got about eight or twelve books for him, just little Bible stories.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And they-, he is, he is getting to where he likes them.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] We got him a little Jesus doll, uh, about a year ago, and he has always kept that. He likes it [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Well, I really like, now we get channel fifty-five, although we do not have cable,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] we do get channel fifty-five. And that is a, uh, like, a, a song, they sing songs on there but they're, uh, worship through music kind of things. But they are up to date, uh, and some of them are like, uh, videos
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] like music videos, that go along with the songs about church and Jesus. And,
[speaker001:] So it's a,
[speaker002:] And I,
[speaker001:] a Christian songs?
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Oh, that sounds fun.
[speaker002:] The Chri-, it's called the Christian music station or something like that.
[speaker001:] That's something. Well,
[speaker002:] And, uh, I really like that.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Uh, I turn that on, on Sunday mornings. And I do not, you know, and so my kids do not, uh, have an [TV],