[speaker001:] hello
[speaker002:] hello my name is Nola I'm in Plano Texas
[speaker001:] hi Nola I'm Steve I'm in Dallas Texas
[speaker002:] not too far away
[speaker001:] no that's unusual seems like usually
[speaker002:] I've had some from Plano too
[speaker001:] oh yeah I think all mine have been East Coast people so far
[speaker002:] uh-huh okay um let's see
[speaker001:] so social changes
[speaker002:] social changes
[speaker001:] what's that mean
[speaker002:] uh sounds like not as recent social changes too like back to the sixties or fifties I guess
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] think we can handle that
[speaker001:] yeah I yeah I definitely I mean there's plenty of things to talk about there that's a
[speaker002:] okay uh shall I go ahead and push one
[speaker001:] yeah sure
[speaker002:] okay  you want to go ahead and start
[speaker001:] uh I was hoping that you would but oh yeah social changes is that uh it seems to me that uh
[speaker002:] that involves a lot of different areas I think
[speaker001:] does uh yeah like a lot it seems like the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer is even more true today so
[speaker002:] yeah there is a a big difference in the uh economic
[speaker001:] that
[speaker002:] um status of uh people although I think that has been true uh always um perhaps there's less of the middle range then there was
[speaker001:] yeah it's like people are starting to give up hope and they start out very poor let's see that's a bad tangent to get on what else has changed between the sixties and the eighties and the nineties no
[speaker002:] um I think uh my in my situation I have three children and we're uh home schooling so education you know things that relate to to education um are things that I think about a lot um I think that and I think that involves social changes a lot uh for instance I think the schools are having more and more problems because of uh things that are happening socially in the world around them and in in to because of their parents and things that are being taught in the home are not taught in the home rather more not than are and children being put in day care centers from very early and and I think that a lot of these things that have been happening such as the day care centers and things are having a big effect on the social changes because of the way children are being raised they're not learning the values they need to learn and they're not um
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] they don't have the self-esteem that they need to have and they don't have the um a solid family life that they need to have to confidently and deal with the things in the world and uh I think we're seeing a lot of rebellion and things because of that and the things like the gang gang things that are happening and and um
[speaker001:] yeah it seems so that yeah that is a pretty big change it seems even not just single parent families but with no guidance but it seems like some of these even ladies that that'll work and have a baby and then you know after two or three months go back to work you know well that that I mean that's very young for a baby
[speaker002:] yeah yeah oh that's really sad I think that a lot of people and they think they have to but I I think that if they really tried they wouldn't have to and I I think that if they didn't that
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and and it became more of the standard not to that uh I don't know maybe companies would start paying men more so that their wives could stay home you know and have a more solid uh foundation for the kids
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I mean they're going to like you said I mean there
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] there's they might be saving money I mean even if they had to pay more now I mean in the long run it's going to cost society more to force two people to work even though it's higher productivity is short-term
[speaker002:] that's right it's already it already costs society much more because of it you know it trying to do all these programs like Headstart and things like those you wouldn't have to do that if mothers would stay home with their children and do things with them you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] um there's and I think uh a lot of it is selfishness people have become very selfish they don't want to stay home with the kids or something like that there are a lot of two parent
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] um situations where the woman goes back to work because that's what she wants to do you know
[speaker001:] oh rather than she needs the money just she wants the stimulating environment
[speaker002:] rather than that she has to have the money particularly or maybe there's a small need for money so she does it partly because of the money but partly for herself too
[speaker001:] huh is yeah is the thing how uh home study is that what you said home school is that uh is is it like uh a preschool level then or through grade school or
[speaker002:] you know home school yeah no we're I have uh one going into fourth grade and one starting kindergarten and then a preschooler and one on the way
[speaker001:] oh is oh well you sound busy so you're teaching them completely huh
[speaker002:] yes yes and I think uh it's becoming uh more popular then it has been for a while I think home schooling's always been around but uh I can see more and more families going to it because of the problems in the schools um and a lot of it is discipline problems
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] a lot of it is and you can tell which kids have been in day care centers it it's really obvious to look at them and watch the way they act and things that um
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] they've been raised in a day care center
[speaker001:] yeah that's pretty sad because I mean I don't know something's got to change with the schools that's what it all boils down to in the end usually anyway when they're young
[speaker002:] well I think it's going to have to change in the homes before anything changes anywhere else the home is the base
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's the basic unit and that's the where it all starts and if we don't start making changes in the homes and maybe part of that is educating parents better
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and educating uh you know
[speaker001:] changing people's expectations
[speaker002:] I know they do do some they do have some classes in um high schools and things for kids to uh give them an idea of what family life is like and the uh you know and uh that kind of thing but um