[speaker001:] hi I'm wondering what what camping means to you
[speaker002:] hi when I think of camping I think of of bugs and sleeping bags and and tents uh like along the Appalachian Trail
[speaker001:] oh very good that's sort of the same thing that that I do I don't think of um trailers and campers and all this stuff
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] um do you do much camping
[speaker002:] I have never been camping
[speaker001:] oh you've never been camping oh gee
[speaker002:] no do you do much
[speaker001:] well um yes and no and the uh I haven't done much recently but um up until gee maybe five or six years ago I did a lot of it and you know I've sorry
[speaker002:] really uh where you live now or uh did you camp up in Maryland or
[speaker001:] no um I used to live abroad and so I I camped a lot in um the Middle East and I was able to camp right in ruins which was always very exciting
[speaker002:] oh okay oh I bet
[speaker001:] and a bit exotic for those who love bugs but um and then when I used to come back to the states in summer we'd often go up um to the lake country in New York with my brother's family and and do camping there
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh okay well my cousin uh husband and and his uncle especially uh grew up camping together and uh they they just love it and they're planning a trip uh into Canada this I guess in about a year and they're going to spend about a week and a half camping up there
[speaker001:] and you're not going
[speaker002:] no this is this is a a man's trip so
[speaker001:] oh that's too bad
[speaker002:] so they're really looking forward to that
[speaker001:] oh gee
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] I guess it makes a difference I grew up camping being in Girl Scouts and things like that so
[speaker002:] and see I was I was never exposed to it
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] so it's I I feel like I'm a little bit too uh much of a city city mouse to try doing it
[speaker001:] oh that's too bad I think the you know there's certainly a lot of aspects you would like but maybe not the you you know the Canada men's trip but some other you know a nice tent on the the shore of a lake and
[speaker002:] what's the best part about it to to you the the quiet the getting away
[speaker001:] right the and the the no telephone the gee whiz you go to bed when it gets dark and you get up when it gets light
[speaker002:] man
[speaker001:] yeah and um I guess just just the change from the rat race
[speaker002:] now do you usually like do you usually go and there's lots of other people around or is it pretty much much isolated
[speaker001:] no it's uh it's pretty isolated um and to me I like that I guess too although there are people I mean you know it's really hard to get away
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and I guess when when we did sites in in the Middle East of course it was with a group in order to make it safe
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] but I mean we'd go in different parts of the ruins and and things like that but we didn't even have tents there we just sort of put out the sleeping roll
[speaker002:] oh good grief that that does sound neat but I don't think I I've got a quite enough nerve to do that I know my husband's gone uh for several days on the Appalachian Trail before and he said that you can a lot of times you can go for you know a good day before you'll see or meet anybody else on the trail
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] so it's not for the faint of heart I don't think
[speaker001:] right actually I just joined um the Appalachian Trail Walking Club or whatever they call it what uh and I'm very eager to to start uh I love to walk
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] and um I'm going to start with day trips though because I don't know the territory and all and I'm not sure um my son is not eager to go and you know I think that that that might be a little eerie at first going alone
[speaker002:] I think it would be yeah well that sounds really neat
[speaker001:] oh but you know I'm gonna try well gee whiz I hope you get into camping some day just slowly
[speaker002:] well I don't know uh we talk about sometimes going up to Chincoteague
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] and uh I maybe like you said start out slow and and kind of get used to it and find out that it maybe it's not as bad as I I fear it might be
[speaker001:] right I think that you know I guess one time recently we went up to Maine and had planned to camp and you know the only site left when we got there was in the middle of a field and I said gee whiz for twenty dollars we can go down the road and get a a motel which we did and so that you know if the setting was right and that it's it's great but if it's just
[speaker002:] yeah