[speaker001:] yeah I had this topic uh the last time I called I believe
[speaker002:] my goodness that's unusual
[speaker001:] well do you have any uh children or are you in college
[speaker002:] mine uh well mine are grown and uh of course uh I've already been through this with them
[speaker001:] I see well
[speaker002:] and I guess I'll have to help with grandchildren one of these days I hope
[speaker001:] certainly and where did your uh children go to college
[speaker002:] well one went to A and M and one went to um uh oh Stephen F Austin and one went to North Texas and one went to University of Texas at Dallas
[speaker001:] well that's great
[speaker002:] and one of them ended up at El Centro in one of the uh specialized programs and another is putting herself through right now back at UTD
[speaker001:] I see well that's great I'm the director of admissions at UTD
[speaker002:] oh well good well I'm glad you let her in
[speaker001:] well what advice did you give them when they were choosing their colleges it looks like they uh you have a variety there
[speaker002:] well the main thing was uh what is it you want to study and uh where is the best place to get what you need and
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] how far is it from home I had to put in and and then course we also had to include how much is it gonna cost
[speaker001:] well you're going right down my list uh the first thing that I always talk to students about is the academic program because if we don't have what you're looking for it isn't gonna do you any good no matter how bad you wanna come here
[speaker002:] yeah that's true that's true
[speaker001:] and uh cost is always uh usually next on the list especially for the parents and uh financial assistance and scholarships
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and usually then we talk a little bit about uh the size of the school and uh different types of organizations and activities that they can get involved in and of course distance from home and size of classes and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] um it sounds like uh from your experience you know how to go right down the list with them
[speaker002:] well you have to be practical because uh I know um our our first daughter went uh to Stephen F Austin and uh her allergies acted up in the Piney Woods and it was too far from home and she got lonesome and that didn't work out for her so I guess I learned on that one
[speaker001:] yeah you you know it's interesting especially when uh uh my experience uh has always been at a public university and uh a lot of the students in that home town uh sometimes shun the idea of staying and going to school across the street so to speak
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but uh it always seems like at the beginning of the year they're talking about well I'm going to this state and I'm getting out of here and I'm going way over there
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and a lot of times when it gets right down to the practical aspect of it they end up staying pretty darn close to home because they can save money as far as housing and uh laundry
[speaker002:] um-hum laundry and food I think food has a lot to do with it too
[speaker001:] you bet it sure does
[speaker002:] and mother doing the laundry especially with the boys the girls it don't seem the laundry isn't that quite that important because they seem to know how to handle that better but the boys it's that laundry that throws them there for a while
[speaker001:] sure
[speaker002:] even when they know how to use the washing machine
[speaker001:] well there's a little barrier around the washing machine and the dryer and uh for some reason men just can't get around that barrier
[speaker002:] oh well we'll have to give them the pass key I guess do you have uh uh more than the one daughter to plan for
[speaker001:] uh I have a daughter that's a seventh grader and then I have a son that's a sophomore at uh Shepton High School
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] and so it's uh it's been interesting watching them uh sign up for appropriate course work and things and they're they're on the college bound track at least
[speaker002:] um-hum well that's good do you find that uh the boy is going in a different direction than the girl as far as what his uh um needs are and the type of college he wants
[speaker001:] well uh they certainly have two different personalities but uh in terms of needs the older son is interested in the medical field
[speaker002:] well yeah good
[speaker001:] and uh at this particular point you know taking appropriate course work but really nothing uh that's in out of the ordinary
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh the daughter has indicated that uh she wants to get a degree in uh business um and then go on to become President sure you bet and
[speaker002:] um-hum okay I'll vote for her if she has good track record hope I'm around to do so
[speaker001:] well I uh you know we're we we try to be conscious of uh of the uh equal uh equal rights and uh