[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] Okay [LAUGHTER]. They suggested that we, uh, discuss what we think of when we say camping.
[speaker001:] Yeah. What do you, where do you like to camp? How do you like to camp?
[speaker002:] Oh, I can camp just about, most anyway [LAUGHTER]. Camping or, uh, motor home is nice, uh, travel trailer, pop up,
[speaker001:] I used to, uh, live in the Ozarks and, uh
[speaker002:] Oh, really?
[speaker001:] liked to go up there and just take a backpack and
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] strike out into the woods.
[speaker002:] You really rough it then.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Do you do that very often?
[speaker001:] I haven't done it in quite awhile
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] since I moved down here. But I used to do it
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] quite a bit.
[speaker002:] You'd have a lot of hills in that, down in that area.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] it was real hilly.
[speaker002:] That would be really great.
[speaker001:] Take a twenty-two and go out.
[speaker002:] Pardon?
[speaker001:] Take a twenty-two and find a creek.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. That sounds like it'd be fun. Did you go alone or with a group or,
[speaker001:] I used to go with my brother.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] We just lived up there.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Oh, that's great. Long as it's not raining.
[speaker001:] Yeah,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] it gets kind of, I, we used to have one of those little caves you can go back in
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] get out of the rain.
[speaker002:] Really, oh, that would be,
[speaker001:] But I don't know much about camping in Texas.
[speaker002:] Huh-uh. Well, I'm in Pennsylvania.
[speaker001:] You live in Pennsylvania? [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yes [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I didn't know they did this.
[speaker002:] Are you in Texas, now?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Oh. Okay.
[speaker001:] Yeah. I'm down here at T I.
[speaker002:] Most everybody I've been talking to is from Texas, but, uh, we're up here in western, northwestern part of Pennsylvania.
[speaker001:] I used to be in Ohio, it's some pretty country up there.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Well you kind of know what it's like, then. Yeah.
[speaker001:] So,
[speaker002:] But, we've, uh, we've done, uh, many types of camping. We've, we've done tent camping, and we had access to a motor home which is really super great, [LAUGHTER] if you don't want to rough it too much.
[speaker001:] Yeah. You can get the, they have some nice camping grounds
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] you know, that have the water piped out
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] just set it up and get out of, get out of the city for awhile.
[speaker002:] Right. Just get you away from the everyday things that are going on. We, when the children were smaller we used to go to, uh, Delaware along the o-, ocean most every year. And that was fun we stayed mostly in state parks and, uh, we really enjoyed that.
[speaker001:] Tell you what, I'm losing you.
[speaker002:] Huh?
[speaker001:] I said I'm losing you, you're getting fad-, you're fading out.
[speaker002:] Oh, maybe my, dropping my phone. Is that better?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Oh. But,
[speaker001:] So what, you try to go and take a vacation every year and go out and camp?
[speaker002:] Yeah. Well, we used to, we don't as much anymore, but, uh, we used to. We kind of slowed down a little bit. But, uh, I think the worst, the worst thing is when it's raining. If you get a rainy season and you happen to be camping
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] then it can be kind of bad.
[speaker001:] I know the rain bring out the snakes or used to bring them out in the Ozarks,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] That's kind of, kind of rough when you got to fight snakes off when your sleeping.
[speaker002:] I don't think I would like that. What kind?
[speaker001:] Uh, copperheads mostly,
[speaker002:] Oh. Those aren't too pleasant.
[speaker001:] No, they're.
[speaker002:] Yeah. We have some of them around here. You probably have more there, though, I would imagine.
[speaker001:] Yeah. One year they were, they were just everywhere.
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] I don't know what it was, we had a real rainy spring
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and then it was all year, there was just copperheads everywhere.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. But you still backpacked and camped out.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well I lived down in, down in the bottom of a big hollow and we had to pretty much hike out most of the time.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] If it rained we were stuck back in there. Had a four wheel drive.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] You just get used to it.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I guess you know enough to look where you're walking or sitting
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] or whatever you're doing. Yeah. Yeah, I would think, I would think a cave would be, could have problems like that, too.
[speaker001:] Yeah. This cave that we used to go in was little, it was small it was more
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] it was just big enough for a couple of people to sack out.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, is your brother younger than you or,
[speaker001:] Yeah. He's about a year and a half younger.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, uh-huh, well, that's great, that'd be a lot of fun. You have a lot good experiences from that. Yeah.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Yeah, it was. Saw a few bears
[speaker002:] Did you really?
[speaker001:] things like that.
[speaker002:] What, black ones?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That would be exciting.
[speaker001:] Yeah, the first, first couple of times it's pretty scary but, uh,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] after that you realize they are just as afraid of you, too.
[speaker002:] Yeah, they're usually more afraid of you than you are of them, usually.
[speaker001:] But, uh,
[speaker002:] They're on the increase in this area.
[speaker001:] Oh, really?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I don't know if, they don't have them up there do they?
[speaker002:] The black bear.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] Oh, do they?
[speaker002:] Yeah, the population's been really up. They've, uh, they've had longer hunting seasons than that even to get rid of more of them, because they were, uh, increasing so much.
[speaker001:] Yeah, they, down here they, they stopped for awhile or they really made it hard to hunt them.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I don't know what it's like now, I haven't been back up there in awhile.
[speaker002:] Yeah. But, uh, we, we really like camping. I, I must say that, uh, we ha-, we really have a lot of fun, a lot of memories in that from camping and, uh.
[speaker001:] Well, it's good to get out and smell some fresh air, too.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker001:] So,
[speaker002:] It's just, so, it's a lot of work, too
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] it's, uh, get-, you know, getting ready and taking care of everything. But it's, um, it's really refreshing. So,
[speaker001:] Well, I think we're about to run out of our time.
[speaker002:] I think so [LAUGHTER]. Well, it was really good hearing from you and
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I hope you get back into camping again, and do a little more of it.
[speaker001:] Yeah. I'm sure, I will.
[speaker002:] Okay. Thanks a lot, and you have a good day.
[speaker001:] You, too.
[speaker002:] Bye-bye.
[speaker001:] Bye.