[speaker002:] pretty good pretty good so we're talking about drug testing in the work place huh
[speaker001:] drug testing in the work place um I've been tested a few times just before pre drug employment but that's about it I've never had random drug testing
[speaker002:] yeah we have random drug testing at in my business but I've never been uh never had to do it yeah yeah they started that about a year ago and I think it's mostly for the
[speaker001:] oh really what
[speaker002:] the field people that you know drive trucks and heavy machinery that kind of stuff
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but uh they they have done some testing around our office mostly after lunch looking for people drinking uh drinking beer and stuff at lunch time at least that's
[speaker001:] oh they do with alcohol
[speaker002:] pardon
[speaker001:] they do it with alcohol
[speaker002:] yeah yeah they they they'll check for alcohol
[speaker001:] oh I thought it was just like marijuana or cocaine
[speaker002:] now once once you start doing that stuff you sort of you're sort of stuck into uh checking for the whole the whole thing
[speaker001:] huh that's interesting what type of field of work are you in
[speaker002:] yeah it's a I'm in the oil business yeah
[speaker001:] oh in the oil business okay and you work in the office around
[speaker002:] yeah I work in the office so uh it's pretty pretty safe environment
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah see I work in the automotive air bag industry where we make the safety bags for the cars and we work around around a lot of explosives
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh well that sounds like kind of an important job to be uh straight on
[speaker001:] yeah so that's you know I'm all for it because the well the type of environment I work in you know working they're working with explosives and so they could blow up the whole well they have safety features with each of the explosives they use but still it can be dangerous
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well I I I agree I think that uh you know under certain circumstances especially when you're working in in high risk uh uh industries where you can really hurt other people that that you need to have that kind of stuff
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know if it's as long as it's not abused uh you know random you know as long as it's random and and the individual's rights are uh are protected I don't have that big a problem with it
[speaker001:] now do they fire them or do they
[speaker002:] well see this is it this is where I start having my problems with my company I work for a private company and and the the policy is something like
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] see if I can restate this correctly now if you turn yourself in as having a drug related problem then you're eligible for company counseling
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but if they catch you if you test positive for a a controlled substance then you get fired
[speaker001:] oh wow
[speaker002:] so it you know it's sort of one of these little catch twenty twos
[speaker001:] huh that's I think our policy is that all right it's probably the same thing I'm not really sure because anyway I don't have the
[speaker002:] yeah really it's one of those things that you read once and then if you if you're not worried about it you just forget about it
[speaker001:] that's right but I know they do have counseling and that they do give you a second chance but I'm not sure if if it's if you get caught or if you turn yourself in
[speaker002:] yeah yeah our yeah our company's a little tougher on the second chance I mean if if they're going to give you the opportunity to turn yourself in then they ought to you know go out of the way I think a little bit more to uh to help you get you help get you rehabilitated to you know to get get back at your job
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but uh when you're not when you're a private company the rules don't always apply
[speaker001:] uh do you think it works very good with that random do you think it limits the
[speaker002:] well it's it's hard for me to to evaluate it because everybody I work around is in an office environment and you know it's not I guess I haven't haven't run into anybody that's that's had a problem that's that's been a problem
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh so I guess you know I guess it works uh much like uh well shoot like any lottery I mean everybody's got an equal chance to get picked
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] so uh I'd rather have that than you know say well this week the A's and B's are going to be in and next week C's and D's are going to come in
[speaker001:] you could time it just right
[speaker002:] yeah right right
[speaker001:] I've met one employee I know when I was working with he had alcohol on his breath and I'm not sure if our policy covers that or not that'd be just as dangerous
[speaker002:] yeah well especially around uh you know equipment machinery and stuff
[speaker001:] huh that's true
[speaker002:] you know I've I've gone out and had a had a beer at lunch time but not to excess in any case
[speaker001:] um-hum do they give any limits on alcohol or is it
[speaker002:] uh I don't remember to tell you the truth I don't think they do um well I they must I mean gee whiz that just shows you how much I've been paying attention because I I really don't know I'll have to go into work tomorrow and ask well you know you can take some of that that testing a little bit too far uh there was a company in Houston that they did uh an unannounced drug sweep of the of their company
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh
[speaker002:] oh it was it was it was an unannounced sweep of of it was not only drugs