[speaker001:] well I'll tell you why I feel so I feel strongly about this topic I don't know a whole lot about the immigration laws but I do know that in the where I live and I teach school there are so many Orientals that have come here and there's a lot of Mexican people too which is not neither here nor there but the fact is that all the Orientals that are here are very affluent uh very wise in money matters and have taken have taken over a lot of businesses and have really kind it's kind of scary because they're so bright they're all the kids that I have that are Oriental are really far above the American kids and they and the the parents are unbelievable because they are just on the way up and money is their main goal and it's kind it really is kind of scary because there's there's just oodles of them and you can not believe the businesses and corporations that have been taken over by Orientals and it's kind it's kind of scares me not that I don't want them here and not that I don't appreciate the fact that you know that they have rights too but on the other hand you feel like almost they're they're invading us to the point where they're going to take over
[speaker002:] right actually my son once said that that perhaps um what we should do is is buy a little square of land some place in the Midwest and and that might be the solution
[speaker001:] I think probably that's a good idea because I lived in Iowa for about for about ten years before I came here and I was born in Ohio
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so it it really and there is there are a lot of Mexican people here because we're so close to the border and and they are wonderful people and and I'm not you know I don't want to deny them their rights just that you you feel like when you
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] were born and raised here and you worked real very hard to make this country what it is uh it scares you when you feel like somebody's taking over and a lot of these people plan one day to go back you know to to Vietnam or to you know Taiwan or wherever they're from and take with them a lot of American dollars plus a lot of power in American companies companies companies and it's kind of scary and you know I don't know I don't know the immigration laws that uh that well and I do not and in fact I don't know them at all I don't know how many
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] people they allow in the United States per year or if there's even a I don't even know if there is a number that they allow in anymore do you know anything about that
[speaker002:] um-hum no I don't I don't know I lived in the Middle East for sometime and I I do believe there must have been some sort of quota system because uh I know a lot of people that were in a sense not qualified is the wrong word but certainly were deserving to come and it seemed to take them a long time or or there was a lot of uncertainty as to whether they would be able to come
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] and so I would guess that you know there are quotas for different places
[speaker001:] I would think so too it
[speaker002:] uh you know I I I think there's something about being able to to claim um imminent danger or I'm not sure what the terminology is maybe political
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] asylum yeah there there you go you got the term and maybe that's an an issue with a a lot of people I don't know
[speaker001:] asylum of some sort um-hum
[speaker002:] but yeah I I guess I haven't been in a situation where it's it's been threatening to to me uh
[speaker001:] well well I teach in the suburb of Dallas and and uh my kids go to school in another suburb of Dallas and uh with very very good school systems and they're considered you know one of the top three in the state both of them you know and it seems like a lot of the Orientals make sure that their kids go to these schools
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and they're head and shoulders above a lot of the kids here and the kids in this area are very bright and come from you know parents that are professionals or semiprofessionals and and uh very interested in their education but uh I think in the last year I'm not if I'm not mistaken in four of the six high schools the graduating class valedictorian and salutatorian were uh almost half or more Oriental
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and you know they're just extremely bright kids and also they value learning
[speaker002:] I was going to say I'm not sure I I would guess that it's not that they are any brighter but they just maybe work harder or
[speaker001:] well I I think things come easy for them too but I do think that they have that work ethic that we somehow have missed the boat in with a lot of kids in the United States I don't they uh don't want to work for anything they want it to come to them but and be there but they don't want to work hard and these kids work really hard and and they have
[speaker002:] right right maybe but maybe part of that's the problem that here we've we've let this value slip
[speaker001:] yeah I know I agree with that I agree with that
[speaker002:] and they need to have some competition
[speaker001:] but what I see is you the competition is there but instead of meeting the challenge they're starting to resent them and it's causing you know I think some some problems
[speaker002:] um-hum well that's too bad
[speaker001:] it really is it because we see a lot of racial problems in Dallas the Dallas area anyway especially in Dallas and it's mainly Black and and and Hispanic
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] but uh there is some there has been some resentment with Orientals in the Black community because they've started businesses there and the Blacks resent them coming in and taking their money and there's been some violence because of it
[speaker002:] oh that's really sad
[speaker001:] it is it's it is very sad so you know I really I I've I've always prided myself on not being prejudice and being
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know um welcoming welcoming everyone that wants to come here and even when I was younger when when I was in college I was a member of the NAACP because I lived up north and I was very into that the human rights part of everything
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] but I I've I've become very cynical in the last three four years living in Texas
[speaker002:] um-hum well and it sounds like you feel that there is need for change maybe the uh you know the there is too big of a concentration coming all at once to to allow for adequate melting into the society
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum well and exactly that's exactly true plus the fact that these people do come for a short period of time two two three four maybe five years and then go back and pick our brains which is wonderful and take all that back with them and and uh plus a lot of American dollars but in in the long run maybe that's going to make a better world too you know you just don't know
[speaker002:] right right exactly
[speaker001:] and and yet you know with uh with uh there's somebody on my other line but I'm going to ignore that um
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] anyway I just you you kind of you don't you really don't know what to do and and I don't I want my kids to have values where they're accepting and so forth and both of my children
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] are really tolerant more tolerant of Blacks and Hispanics Hispanics than they are of the Orientals for some reason they feel you know like they've taken over they feel like uh you know they're taking some of the
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] the rewards that they should have and and I really don't want that to happen but but it's happening
[speaker002:] right right right right
[speaker001:] and I think a lot of their friends feel the same way too so
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and I really do wish I knew about quotas and really wish I hi I really do wish I I knew more about immigration laws because I have no idea any more because they've changed a great deal
[speaker002:] right I would I would suspect that they have well I guess um I don't have much much more to contribute to the topic
[speaker001:] yeah I don't I don't really either I wish I knew more and probably if I did I might be a little bit more uh tolerant
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] perhaps and I and even if I I really wish I knew the situations they were going back to or coming from you don't know any of that and you feel you know you can't put yourself in their shoes or really understand them unless
[speaker002:] um-hum right
[speaker001:] and for some reason Orientals are very uh my good friend calls them pushy but I call them very that they know what they want and they go get it and in stores and so forth
[speaker002:] um-hum goal directed
[speaker001:] well pardon me yeah but in stores and things sometimes they can be very impolite because they can they get in front of you or they
[speaker002:] goal directle oh I see
[speaker001:] um they take something that you had in mind to get before you did you know just going for it they take it quickly and uh they don't think anything of that and I don't you know that's makes people resentful too and
[speaker002:] um-hum sure sure
[speaker001:] and yet they have they have a right to be here and I know that but it's it sometimes it's gets touchy
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] so and I'm sure it's a lot different you're from Maryland you said what part of Maryland are you from
[speaker002:] yes up in the Gaithersburg area
[speaker001:] oh okay my sister used to live there in that area and I I'm sure that it's a lot different there uh it's a lot different in Iowa than in Iowa than it is here
[speaker002:] um-hum well no I think I think there as I recall in my son's class there were were an awful an awful lot of minorities minorities yeah and uh of all of all varieties and
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] with the same uh you know some of the some of the same problems that you've mentioned but um I don't know I guess I wasn't involved enough to to um really stop to think about it
[speaker001:] um-hum well I you know since I teach I see that see it and and I feel and I love the example that most of these children and give the our American children and yet you know I can see why some of the parents are fearful that are fearful too and and it's a kind of a touchy situation
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and I wish that we could all just learn from each other and not feel threatened but it doesn't happen that way all the time
[speaker002:] exactly exactly right right
[speaker001:] so anyway it was good to talk to to you too and have a good trip in California all right well thank you bye-bye
[speaker002:] well it was good talking to you and I hope okay and have a good weekend all righty bye-bye