[speaker001:] well hi I guess uh I'll just start by saying that we entertain with uh a gourmet club here um which means that we have like eight eight people four couples
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and most of the husbands this is really peculiar most of the husbands cook
[speaker002:] great
[speaker001:] I mean the wives during the day you know get I guess so burned out on cooking whatever they have to cook every day um you know they don't really care about gourmet stuff but it was the guys that got together and did all this and um like my husband just
[speaker002:] oh that's nice
[speaker001:] he really really likes to cook in terms of um oh barbecue and I mean all guys I think like to barbecue I think it's caveman mentality but um he really does cook and it's a good thing because you know you can't you can't knock that but all these other guys do too
[speaker002:] right right no
[speaker001:] and so we've gotten together and we just do these really elaborate gourmet meals and it's really really kind of a neat thing to do you can
[speaker002:] how often do you meet
[speaker001:] well we try I mean because you know everybody is so active with their kids and all that it's like you know if we can do it once every six months we are doing well yeah so I mean we originally started out you know when we were younger and didn't have so much stuff going on with the kids
[speaker002:] oh yes yes uh-huh
[speaker001:] um then we would we tried to do it every other month but lately it's just been once every six months
[speaker002:] yeah oh well that's much more reasonable I was involved in a a club like that for um that you know where we tried to really do gourmet uh meals and uh we
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] we were a little bit too frequent I think I don't remember if we were once a month or anyway it was
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] it was difficult by the time we went around it was uh four couples so uh by the time we got around uh to each of us and it was time again we were almost tired you know
[speaker001:] really really
[speaker002:] um partly because um gourmet cooking is not particularly conducive for regular dining it's too rich
[speaker001:] oh it is absolutely
[speaker002:] and so I we found that while we enjoyed the evening we regretted it the next day
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] um so uh we we kind of and then one of the couples uh moved and so we sort of didn't didn't continue it but um and I must admit that as you say when your children start taking up your time then you you don't have as much time for uh regular entertaining but um when when we entertain I usually try to find something that would be um kind of good for everybody and that that sometimes means you can't do gourmet
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] because depending on who your guests are
[speaker001:] oh yeah well yeah that's true and we have a gourmet friend that can't stand fish so mean and she can get with in
[speaker002:] oh yeah well one of my friends doesn't eat any cheese at all
[speaker001:] oh my
[speaker002:] uh so that's a real problem because so many dishes require cheese uh well I take that back uh she can't eat some cream cheese but that that really limits um
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah it sure did it makes you uh keep looking for recipes every time you have an eye out for something like right so we we try to keep all that in mind but otherwise um I guess you know entertaining um
[speaker002:] oh yeah right
[speaker001:] I I guess I have recipes I um but that's that's basically what we do is the gourmet so you know they would be pretty elaborate
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] um but it's fun I mean it took us four days to cook a stock and three days to make this stuff and you know you get all prepared but you're right it's very very rich and I'm glad we don't have it every
[speaker002:] oh wow yeah
[speaker001:] because it is it's a quite a treat it really is um
[speaker002:] yeah sounds wonderful
[speaker001:] right but so you like food and I just love the the community of food I just think it's neat I just love sharing meals and
[speaker002:] oh sure I do too yeah right
[speaker001:] and um and whatever you can do you know to do that I don't think you have to be you know more than hamburgers and hot dogs out in the backyard and the and the coleslaw and potato salad but but
[speaker002:] right right sure well my um daughter is graduating uh Sunday and so we're having a uh few
[speaker001:] ah
[speaker002:] people in Sunday afternoon and I did a cop out on to it I'm buying cold cuts well I have to make a cake and I have to make hors d'oeuvres and I have to make dessert so I figured for the main thing it's going to be sandwiches
[speaker001:] but you providing so right right there you go
[speaker002:] uh so oh I'm buying the little tiny rolls and so on but I can't do it you know working full-time and it's just too much
[speaker001:] I know we're all not built like uh what what the oh
[speaker002:] those people that try to do everything
[speaker001:] Martha Stewart you know we all aren't Martha Stewart and have our coordinated glasses and tablecloths and and time to you know shoot yeah
[speaker002:] yeah  wouldn't that be nice
[speaker001:] shoot a video of the whole thing I don't know but it's it's really kind of a neat thing I get a kick out of it I I really do everything all parts of the food I mean I love to make things from scratch you know making breads and
[speaker002:] yeah right um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] and you know people really pretty much appreciate it and
[speaker002:] oh they do it it's very difficult to purchase um items that are as good as what you can make yourself
[speaker001:] oh I think so
[speaker002:] um in spite of uh or if you if you do buy it it's extremely expensive in fact uh I just got back from a shopping trip to purchase purchase them cold cuts and I I bought turkey and pastrami and and barbecued ham at a an Amish market near here and I've never been there before and I found that there's uh individual vendors and the foods are wonderful and one of the uh the um vendors had
[speaker001:] oh oh
[speaker002:] cakes all sorts of wonderful cakes uh they fresh strawberry strawberry cheesecake now and and so on and it's like thirteen fifty for a whole strawberry cheesecake
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] um which is really not such a bad price I decided I I I just couldn't quite make myself um buy it because I do make cheesecake and somehow
[speaker001:] there you go
[speaker002:] I didn't want to do that because it but I was very tempted because it looked wonderful and they they had black forest cherry cake and all those things that are but those are homemade they are not um
[speaker001:] oh my
[speaker002:] commercial bakery made and in that they are made in their homes um so it it's kind of interesting um it's out there if you want to pay the price but
[speaker001:] oh it is I mean we have bakeries around here that you know you you just gain weight going by the door you know just like that really but I don't know I guess some of the best things I've ever had um
[speaker002:] right just smelling the air yeah
[speaker001:] I some of them were just hors d'oeuvres you know doing little hors d'oeuvre things that
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I have a kick making that I mean you know I get off on strange little details of food I guess but um
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] gee we have so much going on here because you know this is Dallas this is the southwest this is you know chips and Picante sauce and anything hot you know you can always make it hotter and and lots of stuff like that you know so that's um
[speaker002:] um-hum right
[speaker001:] really good party time eating all that hot food and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and they just love it you know down here it just just you know all the
[speaker002:] we like hot food too so
[speaker001:] stuff that goes with that so oh I'm not thank you for noticing I'm from Chicago and how I got really and well how I got to
[speaker002:] right you don't sound like you're from Texas originally though  I thought I thought that there was a slight difference in accent right
[speaker001:] Texas by way of Virginia I'm and everything is a long story but yeah
[speaker002:] oh that did um do you have a favorite hors d'oeuvre recipe that's easy or is it always complicated
[speaker001:] well absolutely I in fact it just came to mind um and this