[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] so Jan how do they recycle in Texas
[speaker001:] well I the biggest uh way it's going right now uh lot most of the grocery stores
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] have got uh things set up so where you can bring in your uh plastic and your cans and newspapers and then they've just got different barrels sitting out I shouldn't say barrels like big John Doors or whatever they're called Gondolas um they've got them set outside and
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and uh
[speaker002:] is it is it all voluntary
[speaker001:] yes it's all voluntary now they do have some places where you can take things and get cash but I think the lot of people don't really want the cash you know they just want to uh help recycle which is what we do you know we
[speaker002:] right um-hum yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] probably the only thing sometimes we'll take cash or the cans in and we let the kids get the money for that but uh for
[speaker002:] right yeah there's a a lot of projects where the the Boy Scouts and things and that will collect your cans and it's a good fund raiser for the kids
[speaker001:] right right yeah that's true but but that's really the the biggest thing around here is the grocery stores participating you know but
[speaker002:] um-hum I guess I you see I guess it depends on your landfill space
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I know I we're in Maryland but my I from Pennsylvania and my parents how are forced recycling
[speaker001:] oh really
[speaker002:] uh yeah all plastic they have all plastic has to go into a recycling bin all cans have to be recycled all newspapers have to be recycled
[speaker001:] oh wow
[speaker002:] because they're um they're just running out of space and landfills uh Pennsylvania Ohio and New York are some of the uh they're using their landfills up faster than they can get new ones
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] so it's really uh it's uh really hard on them now up here in Maryland though we're just just in a voluntary recycling stage right now so uh so my wife and I you know we save our bottles and we save our newspapers and we save all of our plastic and all of our tin cans and just like you say we go to uh a community area where they have it set up and we dump them off there
[speaker001:] so it's all about you say it is all voluntary do they
[speaker002:] yeah it's still voluntary though I think I think we're supposed to have something impeme implemented by nineteen ninety three though
[speaker001:] will it be mandatory
[speaker002:] where some aspects will be mandatory um-hum
[speaker001:] is it all um is there any place at all where you do get cash for this stuff or is it all
[speaker002:] mostly just the cans
[speaker001:] okay yeah that's
[speaker002:] and I and most of the time like I said that's that's a sort of like fund raiser things that the schools do or that the Boy Scouts do or whatever
[speaker001:] right right yeah that's true that's true
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum cans are the only thing I think you really get money for
[speaker001:] well they do have places around here where you can get money for your newspapers and stuff like that but
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know I think a lot of people like I said are more concerned with you know right now you know the aspects of saving the earth um
[speaker002:] right um-hum yeah and I think that's mostly well you know we even before as soon as the community said you know we're going to put up bins for recycling you know we automatically
[speaker001:] um-hum right
[speaker002:] started doing it it was it's one of those things you know and just going and taking the time to go and read the signs and the brochures on what they accept and how it should be separated you know that's
[speaker001:] um-hum well I tell you it's kind of funny now at even even at TI I don't do you work for TI okay
[speaker002:] no hum-um
[speaker001:] um at TI they're doing recycling I mean for a long time they didn't do this but now they're they're recycling cans and paper we have separate bins
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] uh separate wastebaskets in our offices for paper
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] you know and they I mean it's tremendous how much money they have saved and even saving all these trees and you know
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] it's really I can't believe that you know because they've got it all posted all over the place how much they're saving and how well yeah
[speaker002:] yeah how much how well they're doing yeah we do I um I I work in a uh speech interface lab at a at a at a college
[speaker001:] oh okay
[speaker002:] and we do basically the same thing the state of Maryland has lost asked all the colleges and universities and some of the large organizations you know if they would definitely recycle their office paper
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and the same thing you know every almost every college in Maryland is recycling office paper but you know in the giant bins around and it's surprising how much
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you never realize because that janitor comes around and empties your garbage can every night
[speaker001:] right yep so you don't think about it
[speaker002:] you don't notice until you start leaving yeah they don't pick up your recycling until it's full and you just can't believe how much paper that you uh
[speaker001:] right I know
[speaker002:] reams of paper come out of an office every day they just asked me to recycle
[speaker001:] yep yeah well you think about the waste even I mean you know cost wise and and you know like you saving saving trees and stuff like that I mean it's just amazing you know the difference
[speaker002:] um-hum right yeah so I think hopefully if you know I guess a lot of the large organizations probably TI did they advertise on television how successful they are
[speaker001:] no I haven't seen anything uh but that doesn't mean that they don't I don't watch much TV but I haven't really seen anything advertised publicly
[speaker002:] some yeah yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] I mean like I said they do a lot of internal advertising on that kind of stuff but I haven't seen anything
[speaker002:] internal um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] see I don't see a lot of TI advertisements on TV anyway I think they advertise more um other places where they're not located
[speaker002:] right yeah that would probably be true
[speaker001:] you know so so I don't see a lot of advertisements for TI
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah because I know that some of the large industries here will advertise on television you know they'll just come up and say you know they'll show you they'll to encourage to encourage recycling
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] they'll say and here those of us at Dalmarva Power which is our power company you know we now recycle forty five percent of our solid waste and they
[speaker001:] uh-huh right
[speaker002:] and uh we do this for the community they put those on so I so I think you know we're probably reaching a successful stage and and just with voluntary I think
[speaker001:] right well even I mean in the kid's schools I mean they do things to try and recycle and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I know my kids um like if they see litter on the ground they pick it up and say oh look at that somebody is not saving the earth you know so I mean the kids I mean they're really trying to educate all ages you know and it's good to start the kids real young
[speaker002:] right yeah yeah I think so too yeah
[speaker001:] and stuff like that because I mean when I was a kid they never did stuff like that I mean it's like nobody was concerned about it you know and it's like
[speaker002:] right yeah we weren't concerned yeah that's true
[speaker001:] you know it's like all of a sudden when there's noticeable things saying hey you know we're ruining the earth you know and now everybody is doing something about which is good
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] but how come we weren't doing this say twenty years ago you know
[speaker002:] yeah I I think really probably what hit people's you know I know that here in the up in the uh uh the the New England area and also in in Pennsylvania Ohio and New York the just run all of a sudden we're out of landfill
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and then they're saying we we estimate this landfill will be over will be full in two years unless we cut back
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and even then you know we're really running out of space so I think that that became that all of a sudden really hit home that there's no longer landfill space in some of the more crowded states
[speaker001:] well yeah this is
[speaker002:] so what you know and no no other state I'm sure Texas probably still has some landfill space they're not going to voluntarily say hey ship your garbage here
[speaker001:] right yeah that's true
[speaker002:] so you know realistically you know we had we really had to start we have to start recycling in some some uh geographic areas it's really tough
[speaker001:] I think that it it really surprises me because of the cost savings I mean this is such a tremendous amount of cost savings I mean why
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I can't understand why nobody saw that before I mean even even not
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] even the aspects of not saving the earth I mean it's so cost you know
[speaker002:] right yeah though well well in some ways I guess it it doesn't become really cost savings until you have an industry around it you know because I know that like in Pennsylvania
[speaker001:] well yeah
[speaker002:] they require them to um put their newspaper for recycling but the deinking process that they have to they use to take the ink out of the newspaper so it can be reused
[speaker001:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker002:] um is very expensive and also it waste it produces a a waste a um a liquid waste that they don't know what to do with yet
[speaker001:] oh oh I see okay
[speaker002:] so even some aspects of recycling
[speaker001:] is not real cost efficient oh okay okay oh I understand that though
[speaker002:] still have cost yeah cost efficient yet yeah so but others you know like tin cans and plastics are are really uh efficient you know they uh they melt they melt on quickly and can be you know just because of the heating and things yeah and glass yeah
[speaker001:] uh-huh right and glass right um-hum
[speaker002:] so yeah it really is surprising that people haven't noticed it before
[speaker001:] yeah that's true and even I I noticed that a lot of gas stations are telling you to recycle your oil
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] and I mean that kind of surprises me I mean you know because once oil gets so you know thick and yucky you'd wonder how they could you know clean that up enough to use it again but they can
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] um I don't know how cost efficient that would be I guess
[speaker002:] yeah I don't I don't know either that's I know that though I even all those petroleum products though are so terrible for your um the water table you know they really pollute quickly and
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know one I was what reading some place that the brake fluid you put brake fluid normally comes in just small little pint containers
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] that one pint of brake fluid can contaminate so many gallons of water you know like hundreds of gallons of water
[speaker001:] wow
[speaker002:] so it's one of those things that they really um and you wonder you know with all these oil spills
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] how how terrible that is yeah how terrible that is so we'll have to we'll have to keep our eyes on all that I guess
[speaker001:] yeah I know really I know I really I don't know I I think that I mean I think that they really are doing a good thing now and I hope it keeps it well I'm sure it'll keep up
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah I agree
[speaker001:] you know I think it's really catching on you know I I think that
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I'm not sure if it I don't know I think it's a good idea to make it mandatory
[speaker002:] I do too
[speaker001:] um because like we were asking some people that live in um North Dakota well are you saving your you know are you recycling and they said well we're not forced to do it yet so no
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know so I mean I don't know I think that if people are forced if the people are not forced to do it they may not you know I mean I don't know I think a lot of people still still still will but
[speaker002:] yeah it well you know if they're forced to do it becomes sort of a habit
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know I know that it's really funny my parents are forced to do it and they