[speaker001:] well uh and that's an idea that's been around for kicked around for a long time I don't know that it's ever been seriously considered uh as far as close to passing uh any legislation or anything like that but I believe Israel does that don't they for their
[speaker002:] uh yes I think so uh
[speaker001:] people in the well everybody has to do has to do something or maybe maybe theirs is in fact one year of military service for everyone but uh
[speaker002:] yeah I don't know yeah I believe that's right
[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] and uh and I don't know that that's really what we're talking about uh
[speaker001:] no I don't think it's it's necessary no I think of that it it it couldn't be military service is not that much but military used to do it but the idea that uh there are things that that do need to be done that could be done and then uh country would benefit from one year from from everybody and even out the the yeah
[speaker002:] yeah for for kids in high school it could be in the summertime
[speaker001:] requirement well now that's a thought yeah
[speaker002:] uh you know um it it could even be done while they're doing another job while they're doing you know a job to make money
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but uh it's uh you know such a grassroots idea that it it I think the family would have to be involved in it and and people would have to be convinced that
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know I I think the the basic message is that giving is better than receiving
[speaker001:] yeah right
[speaker002:] and that's not the kind of society we have right now
[speaker001:] oh yeah I'm afraid you're right there but uh but uh anything like this it came up whether it it quickly would be significant industry in in figuring out how to get around it where
[speaker002:] yeah there are lots and lots of volunteer programs and um
[speaker001:] people who didn't wanna yeah
[speaker002:] but most of those are at least at least it it's my opinion that most of those involve uh adults
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] adults who have the time to give and and uh you know the desire
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] to to give
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's not uh you know it's not uh maybe the maybe it could uh younger people feel like it's not open to them I don't know but but it should be if it's not
[speaker001:] yeah uh I suspect that the yeah that that that that's not the thing that they that they don't feel it's open to them it's just that they uh are more self-centered if you will and not not considering voluntary preference
[speaker002:] yeah it is kind of an introspective time of life but some schools some high schools have actually started a program of like a visitation program to
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh you know areas economically uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] say less advantaged areas and uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] they they promote service on the part of the kids to to uh some of those people so at least that's a step in the right direction I guess
[speaker001:] yeah yeah at uh now I didn't  I don't know it did I I think you're right that that that's not the not the way that the society these days is going and I I think we need to we need to try to figure out some way to to turn that around that everybody
[speaker002:] yeah it's really it's really unfortunate because when you do I do volunteer work for the American Lung Association
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] and I have have done uh gone to work for American Heart and just recently for the Leukemia Society and there's there's no question that doing you know doing that kind of service you get a lot more out of it than uh than the people involved
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh it's it's really a gift to yourself and and that's I think that's a really a really important lesson to learn
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and and and maybe that's why we have so many people in society who are not uh not really happy you know
[speaker001:] or that could be
[speaker002:] because if if you concentrate all of your energies and efforts on yourself you're just kind of down the tube you know
[speaker001:] yeah right
[speaker002:] uh really is better to give then to receive
[speaker001:] yeah I agree I agree with that and uh and I'd I'd I don't know what what what has what has set it off or what but it it it certainly seems to me that that uh uh things in in the last twenty thirty years uh things things have have definitely gone towards uh very much the concentration on self and and and loss of loss of perspective in terms