[speaker001:] okay do you have anybody uh in your family that you ever had to put in a nursing home or
[speaker002:] my grandmother uh is the only person so far and um I basically think for her you know it was it was the best thing she was pretty out of it by the time she went into the nursing home
[speaker001:] okay was that here in Texas
[speaker002:] no it was in Arizona I'm from Phoenix and so it was in uh it was in Phoenix Arizona and uh that was hard but I it wasn't too hard a decision because there was sort of no other option by the time we put her in the nursing home
[speaker001:] uh-huh right right did did you have to put her in yourself or
[speaker002:] no I didn't my mother did uh she lived with well my aunt and my mother she lived with my aunt for a long time and then it got to where she was not manageable anymore she was
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] she didn't have Alzheimer's but um she was pretty much out of it and you know so they finally had to do that how about you
[speaker001:] understand understand that well my uh aunt that I kind of grew up with uh was in a nursing home she did have Alzheimer's and we had to put her in the nursing home because of that but uh this was up in uh Milwaukee Wisconsin and uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] it was a situation that's probably as good as you're gonna get uh it's associated with uh our church and uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] what they do my mother is in is a terrace which it's called Luther Manor Terrace and uh these are condominiums you buy into
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] when you know whenever you know you're sixty or whatever you know whenever you want to buy into this thing and these are very nice condominium things and uh the idea is once you are in this program you are taken care of the rest of your life and they
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] they have a nursing home if you can't maintain your own apartment or your condominium uh you automatically go into that and from there they also have a health care area if you can't you know if you need more intensive care
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh even the best there is isn't a nice situation with uh like you say when you get to a point where uh well she was ninety four and she was uh in the nursing home and the health care facility for I would guess about a year's time but uh it's a hard decision to make I tell you what it's uh
[speaker002:] well it is now was your aunt uh she was she no longer had her mental faculties is
[speaker001:] that's that was really the price and that it gets very hard and on anybody uh I'd go up there and visit and and she'd recognize me but as soon as I was out down the hall she didn't even know I was there
[speaker002:] right um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh it's it's sad you know it
[speaker002:] well it is sad I think I don't think for me it would be as hard a decision if their minds were gone I think it's a harder decision if they're still if if their minds are still good but they're completely their bodies are gone you know I think that would be really hard to put someone in a nursing home in that situation um
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know I think there's some times when you there's just nothing else that can be done but I my uh my father's dead and and so I just have my mother and she's in real good health but I would hate to have to make that decision for her um
[speaker001:] well it's it's but what's really hard is the differences of care you know if you aren't fortunate enough to have a situation like with my mother
[speaker002:] you know I hope that that won't happen right
[speaker001:] right now she's got terrible arthritis in her knees and it's probably not real long where she won't be able to you know get along on her own and she probably
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] you know hopefully it will be a number of years but she's seventy nine years old right now and now she understands that someday you know if she can't handle her apartment that uh you know she'll have to go in the nursing home
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but if you have situations where you don't have that kind you know it's you're confronted with it and if you look at all the different nursing homes uh that are out there it it is kind of frightening some of these places uh it's like put them in a cubbyhole and you know they don't they're they're more caretakers kind of it's almost like putting a dog in a kennel you know some of these places and they stink and they're it it's a tough decision and you know if people don't have the resources for uh
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] it's I I don't know about in Arizona but around here I understand it's it's anywhere from about twenty three hundred to three thousand dollars a month in a a nursing home
[speaker002:] I'm I'm sure that's probably true I I don't know anymore now my grandmother's was the same idea as what you're telling me she we when we put my grandmother in um she was in a room by her you know she had a roommate and but her her care wasn't completely hospital yet but uh and then she went into the hospital part so it was one of those progressive care
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] uh kinds of situations and it was also affiliated with our church so it was a really nice facility but it would be terrible if you had no funds and and had to put someone in a nursing home and not know what kind of care they were really getting
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and of course it's hard to know that unless you're there all the time um
[speaker001:] well and that's the other thing that helps is that you have a relative a close relative that'll look in on them
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] even the best ones if you don't look in on them they have a tendency to just sedate people so they don't have to bothered you know and
[speaker002:] right