[speaker001:] how the Mavericks doing
[speaker002:] oh so-so
[speaker001:] so-so
[speaker002:] yeah they're not doing too good this year they're they they think they kind of started off with a rocket there at the beginning not in the season but I mean just when uh just in general
[speaker001:] uh-huh right
[speaker002:] just kind of come down to an even slump but they're not doing too good this year
[speaker001:] story with Tarpley is he uh is he history altogether
[speaker002:] oh yeah oh yeah
[speaker001:] that's kind of in a oh tough situation they're handling
[speaker002:] yeah I'm kind of surprised that they uh that they that they hung onto him as long as they did
[speaker001:] really they they gave him every chance possible with him
[speaker002:] oh they gave him more than more than uh more than I would have
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] oh yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't have put up with it after the second time I'd have said get out of here
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh he's talented player but uh I feel I don't know they seem to get involved in those substance abuse problems and it's a tough road for them
[speaker002:] oh I know it you follow follow the Mavericks
[speaker001:] well you know because I follow the Jazz fairly closely and then you know we're in the same conference
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and you know keep tabs on them a little bit
[speaker002:] how's the Jazz doing this year
[speaker001:] they're doing well I uh
[speaker002:] are they
[speaker001:] they're in the in the head of the division and just won the last two road games they beat uh Philadelphia tonight it was a close one beat them by two points or three points but yeah they're doing they're doing great uh they had this little incident I don't know if you heard about it with uh Carl
[speaker002:] well that's good
[speaker001:] Carl Malone and Isaiah Thomas
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] there was a I guess they played last Friday here in Salt Lake and about the first two minutes of the game Isaiah drove in and Malone went up to block the shot and really fouled him hard so hard that it put him to the floor and he had like twenty stitches above his eye
[speaker002:] whoa
[speaker001:] and uh they in reviewing the tapes decided it was a flagrant foul oh I guess they decided it was flagrant foul at the time of the ball game and ejected Carl and then he got a he got a ten thousand dollar fine and one game suspension which is about another thirty five thousand
[speaker002:] no kidding
[speaker001:] so it was a forty five thousand dollar deal for him and I I believe it was unintentional he fouled him hard but it wasn't like he had you know malicious intent to go cream the guy so there's been a big buzz about that how how Detroit's the bad boys of the league to begin with and when something like that happens to one of their players they're all all claiming that uh
[speaker002:] my goodness
[speaker001:] you know it was totally uncalled for this unnecessary violence when they've been guilty of that kind of thing for years
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] Laimbeer and Rodman are about the two worst hatchet men in the league so
[speaker002:] yeah that's for sure
[speaker001:] anyway
[speaker002:] yeah I didn't even hear I didn't even hear but I haven't picked up a paper probably or a sports page in  I venture to say in about a month
[speaker001:] oh is that right
[speaker002:] yeah I haven't had a chance to so
[speaker001:] you've you've been busy huh
[speaker002:] yeah just been extremely busy but no I didn't I didn't even hear about that I didn't even see it on the news so I must have missed that one altogether
[speaker001:] well yeah it it was probably more local interest obviously but
[speaker002:] no something something like that they usually they'll usually you know play that just about anywhere
[speaker001:] yeah and everybody's interested in seeing the little well it's just the nature of the human I guess to like to see a little violence I think
[speaker002:] oh especially excessive violence where somebody gets hurt especially oh it's just so but we're raised we're raised on that
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] everybody's raised on that
[speaker001:] that's true
[speaker002:] on the negatives of life I guess
[speaker001:] yeah well I've had about enough of Magic Johnson for the year though
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] I guess where he's uh appears he's touring with the team and Jabbar's thinking of coming out of retirement to help fund the AIDS research and I don't know you hear both those stories
[speaker002:] yeah I heard those
[speaker001:] I guess that's a nice gesture on Jabbar's part
[speaker002:] yeah might as well
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's going to take a lot of people to do that though it's going to take a lot of research
[speaker001:] what do you what do you think about that do you do you think that he got what he deserved or
[speaker002:] you mean as far as Magic
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] well I mean you know he he got to pay to pay to play as they say
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] yeah but he's he's paying pretty hard
[speaker001:] yeah I did see it circumstances but
[speaker002:] well that yeah that's true
[speaker001:] I guess I guess maybe we'll you know some good come of it because of this you know it's a notoriety and focus that it'll have on the disease
[speaker002:] yeah that's true he definitely he definitely opened it up and showed a different side of it
[speaker001:] yeah I don't know how the Lakers are going to do without him this year they they're doing all right now from what I see but
[speaker002:] I don't think they'll hold together
[speaker001:] yeah he's uh the was the heart and soul of that group so
[speaker002:] no I believe you're right I believe you're right
[speaker001:] anyway what other teams you follow any
[speaker002:] no that's about it I I I just really I mean when it gets down to the end end of the season if the Mavericks are doing good I'll stay up with them but yeah I I'm dedicated to a point
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] you know just like I'm more dedicated in football I guess than anything
[speaker001:] well the Cowboys are a lot more popular aren't they
[speaker002:] well yeah well I was raised on the Cowboys so
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I mean the Mavericks are
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] I I was raised with the old Dallas Chaparrals
[speaker001:] oh is that right
[speaker002:] yeah that was years ago though
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] that was that was uh I guess the original pro team that that they had here
[speaker001:] yeah well