[speaker001:] Why don't you start?
[speaker002:] Oh, I don't know. I, uh, I refinished a couple of old, uh, dressers that were gi-, handed down. You know, nice it's nice tongue and groove, uh, uh, construction. Uh, [inhaling] that's been, I've been pretty successful with that.
[speaker001:] Things you already owned or things that you've picked up just to do that?
[speaker002:] What?
[speaker001:] Are they things you already owned or you pick them up just to do that refinishing?
[speaker002:] No, I've done some other things too. Uh, you know.
[speaker001:] Yeah. I've done both [throat clearing].
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Uh, uh, my wife has picked up a couple of things saying, uh, boy if we could refinish that, that would be a [NOISE] beautiful piece of furniture and, uh, we've done it a couple of times. I guess that
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] we've been fairly successful with those. That's, uh, that's a kind of low risk sort of project, isn't it I guess.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That's a good way to get started.
[speaker001:] Uh, I have a, a, uh, really nice desk. A nicer desk than I could afford. Which [LAUGHTER] I got because my sister who worked in a hospital, uh
[speaker002:] Uh-huh [very faint].
[speaker001:] liberated it after a fire and, uh, we stripped it all the way down and refinished it and it turned out to be really nice, uh, a nice desk.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh [very faint].
[speaker001:] Maple top I think or [throat clearing] or
[speaker002:] Uh-huh [very faint] [clink].
[speaker001:] something of that sort.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I, I, uh, put together a, a, up rolltop desk from scratch.
[speaker001:] Oh, really?
[speaker002:] You know, a kit.
[speaker001:] Oh. I'm jealous.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Still had to cut it and everything, but
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] it was fun.
[speaker001:] Yeah [throat clearing]. I, I do do things, uh, that might be too crude to be called woodworking. I've built my own deck and, uh
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [Sniffing] things like that.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I, I've done the same. You know, like the trim around the house [LAUGHTER] you know
[speaker001:] And, uh
[speaker002:] the baseboards and things like that.
[speaker001:] [Throat clearing] I definitely have begun to accumulate tools too. My, I, uh
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I picked up a bunch of Craftsman tools from the forties that my wife's father owned when he was alive and so I do have a band saw and a router and, uh, things like that out in the garage. But I can't say I use them very often [throat clearing].
[speaker002:] Um. Yeah , I'm looking at trying to get a router right now.
[speaker001:] They're handy, uh, they
[speaker002:] .
[speaker001:] they come in handy at the most unusual times. Putting doors in is the time when I'm, uh, I bought myself a, uh, template for making mortices and doors and that's a whole lot easier than doing it with a chisel [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] I'll bet.
[speaker001:] But I've, also, I've also used them for building drawers where you, uh, for rabbeting and, uh, because, uh, rabbeting on my table, on my, uh, radial arm saw is a little bit uncertain [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [Talking] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] So, I got one for Christmas a few years ago and used it quite a bit for the first eight months I had it and now I use it twice a year maybe [throat clearing].
[speaker002:] Yeah. My br-, my brother's used it a lot for making drawers. I don't
[speaker001:] The big,
[speaker002:] know, what, what's your opinion of wha-, what a good router is like? You know I,
[speaker001:] [Throat clearing] Uh, I guess it,
[speaker002:] Because he was tell me like the ones that you dial in aren't all that great. They've plastic parts and stuff.
[speaker001:] [Throat clearing] The ones that what?
[speaker002:] That you dial in on the side.
[speaker001:] Uh, I have never even s-, I have never even looked at one closely. Uh, the, the
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] little use that I've gotten from my router, I would say, uh, I would spend my money on the bits [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Uh, I have a, I'd guess you'd call a medium quality Craftsman router and the, uh,
[speaker002:] How strong is it?
[speaker001:] [Throat clearing] It's strong enough for any job where you don't try to take more than say three-eighths of an inch at a time. But the problem is that the, uh, as with any, any time you buy a, a
[speaker002:] Don't they,
[speaker001:] tool with
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] a, a, as a, as a package
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] the bits that they give you are low end.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [Throat clearing] So the price of a good set of, uh, carbide steel, uh, bits is probably, uh, I mean, a, a good set of bits is probably going to run you a hundred dollars and, uh, uh, if you're going to use for a lifetime I suppose it's worth it. Because y-, e-, uh, I imagine if I go and sharpen them myself, uh, they won't last [throat clearing]. And I've never had the bits sharpened [sniffing]. So.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] That's a thing to consider is to,
[speaker002:] They, they really get hot don't they?
[speaker001:] Yeah. And they, they dull after awhile. Especially, I did some cabinets in, uh, ash and oak
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, uh, that, that wears a bit down. We remodeled and saved a bunch of really nice ash cabinets, uh
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] which had been in the original,
[speaker002:] [Children].
[speaker001:] remodeling of our kitchen.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] [Swallowing] And I saved them and built an oven cabinet out of one and another cabinet out of another by using the faces and so forth [throat clearing]. And, uh,
[speaker002:] [Talking].
[speaker001:] routing hardwood will, uh, take the edge off a cheap bit pretty fast [sniffing]. So.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I've cut some one by eight oak before [LAUGHTER]. Boy was that fun.
[speaker001:] Right. That's, uh,
[speaker002:] Big solid pieces of oak are just
[speaker001:] And then you take the blade to the
[speaker002:] tough.
[speaker001:] to get sharpened, right [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Well, that was, you know, with a, with a circular saw.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Like, oh my gosh.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Is this going to be fun [LAUGHTER]?
[speaker001:] Yeah [throat clearing]. Well I've used mine on treated wood and now all my blades need sharpening.
[speaker002:] [Children] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Because, uh, treated wood will also chew them up.
[speaker002:] Treated wood can really make you sick too.