[speaker001:] go ahead
[speaker002:] uh have you ever been tested for a new job or anything
[speaker001:] um no I haven't but in my job I'm a nurse and we are allowed to be I mean you know this is the rules that they can do this anytime uh I don't know of anyone who ever has been picked out and been tested
[speaker002:] so it's just sort of um they can if they
[speaker001:] they can if they choose to right
[speaker002:] yeah oh okay
[speaker001:] have you well what have you had any experience with it at all
[speaker002:] um not really but I've always worked on a university level but a lot of my friends had to be tested before they got summer jobs and stuff
[speaker001:] uh-huh and what do you think about that
[speaker002:] um I don't I don't think they're very accurate because I mean I know their lifestyles changed prior prior to the drug test and I know they changed afterwards
[speaker001:] right right see I know of that too and I also know that things like antihistamines Sudafed things like that can really throw it off and you cannot get a job because of it and they may not tell you the reason why
[speaker002:] yeah I I had a friend it didn't cause her any problems with her job but it came back that she tested positive for using a hallucinogen
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but what it was was she had been using she had been um in the jungle and it was some Malaria medication and she tested positive for that
[speaker001:] see and so it really is a dangerous thing that way because I know of somebody that tested for an airline and didn't get the job and they weren't told why but a lot of people say the reason why after you take a physical will be because of the drug testing or they would tell you or this person never use any drugs
[speaker002:] see I always I thought they got you got called back if you tested positive for more test
[speaker001:] but um you should because you should be given another chance or at least able to justify it or something I have real mixed feelings about it I don't know
[speaker002:] how uh do you know how wrong they are are they I mean is there a margin of error
[speaker001:] the accuracy I don't know I don't know but I know there are a lot of things that can influence them and I think that a person deserves a second chance with it or something because most things will stay in your system for a long time
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and if you could show that I I interviewed for a job recently and I was taking Entex
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and my doctor gave me a prescription for it and he said this way if it were to make the drug test positive you have proof that your doctor ordered this for you you know and it didn't come up that I needed to do it but if this could happen to anybody and if they would just say oh this person's drug test is positive we won't hire them
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know then you could lose out on a job when really you didn't do anything
[speaker002:] yeah and I I'm not so sure they're that needed I mean
[speaker001:] so I don't know yeah I'm not sure either the only way I can see it is that if they really suspect a person of using it then they have the right to go ahead and prove it because they say they can spot check
[speaker002:] yeah if you're using it while at a job I can see a problem but the occasional person then it's almost like it's almost an infringement of your privacy
[speaker001:] yeah well it sort of is and this is it this I'm not real sure how I feel about it because I can see it from two ways you know as a health professional I wouldn't want somebody take care of me that was using drugs
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know so as a patient I feel well yeah we probably should be protected but on the other hand  there's a lot of things I should be protected from it they don't test my patients for too so you know I guess you sort of you have to have trust some place along the way
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you can't go around testing everybody for everything
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so I don't know and I I think it could be used to hassle somebody if someone was out to get you I think that a company or a boss could use this you know they could keep on doing this to you or something I guess I can see where it could become a problem
[speaker002:] and it it's like it seems like now they have trests I guess they can test your hair and they can find out if you use drugs up to several years ago
[speaker001:] really oh wow but maybe you shouldn't be held responsible for something you did several years ago
[speaker002:] so I know
[speaker001:] that's the other thing I mean a lot of a lot of people as kids or you know young people get into some things that they get out of later on and I don't think they should really have to pay for that forever
[speaker002:] yeah there's a lot of things you do as a kid that you wouldn't do as an adult but
[speaker001:] so yeah
[speaker002:] you can't say it was wrong at the time
[speaker001:] I think that's true yeah yeah so that probably wouldn't be too good either