[speaker001:] Okay, what do you read? [Child talking].
[speaker002:] Uh, well, I read everything, uh, I guess, uh, wh-,
[speaker001:] What is your favorite?
[speaker002:] Uh, well, I like all kinds, uh, in fact I was just reading, uh, a magazine now. An automobile magazine. Uh, I like historical, uh, books, TIME magazine, newspaper, how, how to do it type things, uh, uh.
[speaker001:] [TV] Oh, I am not much into magazines. I do read them. I like GOOD HOUSEKEEPING and stuff like that. I will get
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] ideas out for my own house and yard and stuff [child talking]. Main thing, I like Pierce Anthony. I love Pierce Anthony novels.
[speaker002:] Oh, the novels, yeah. No, I am not into soap, soaps and all that stuff. I am, uh, not into novels at all really, oth-, other than historical things. Uh, uh, I am kind of a, a chore person. I like to do, I am again, I am a fix it person. I, I would read all those kinds of things.
[speaker001:] Figures. What, like those, uh, magazines you get through the mail?
[speaker002:] Yeah. I will buy car magazines, course I am an engineer and I read the engineering magazines,
[speaker001:] I,
[speaker002:] and the money magazines. And, uh, well, I am reading historical, uh, not a novel, but historical book now about the, uh, Russia before, uh, the czar, not before the czar, during the czar's time and what it was like and everything.
[speaker001:] [Child talking] Uh-huh. What about like those TIME books that they put out about, uh, uh, oh, ancient discoveries? You know, th-, how they found out like that, uh, ancient man, per-, performed, uh, brain surgery successfully? And stuff like
[speaker002:] Oh, you
[speaker001:] that.
[speaker002:] mean the ancient astronauts things? [Noise].
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I have read some of that. I, I did not, some of that is, uh,
[speaker001:] [Noise].
[speaker002:] it is very interesting, without question.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I, I do not really know that they have the answers in those books. Th-, they, make conclusions in them that may or
[speaker001:] Yes.
[speaker002:] may not be true.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] But they are very interesting.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Th-, that, they have,
[speaker001:] [Noise].
[speaker002:] what they have discovered.
[speaker001:] [Noise] Oh, I like far out facts or whatever.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I like to read stuff like that. But I am a superficial buff. I cannot [LAUGHTER] take a day [LAUGHTER] I just,
[speaker002:] You are what kind of buff?
[speaker001:] Superficial,
[speaker002:] Oh, okay.
[speaker001:] I like, I like it if it is fun. I do not get too into it.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. Right.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Well, I am kind of a hobbyist so I, I read all those things that, uh, and being an engineer, all those books that would bore everybody else, you know, how to do things.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Yeah. Well,
[speaker002:] I am one of those crazy people that reads the directions. It always make my wife mad. I,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Because you read it [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] when she ever there is something, I say, well, have you read the directions? [Mimicks another voice] "No, I hate reading the directions."
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I say, well, engineers, we, we are the few people in the world
[speaker001:] You are an
[speaker002:] that read
[speaker001:] engineer? [Child talking].
[speaker002:] the directions. Yeah *shouldn't there be a slash unit after 'directions.'? [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Are you an engineer for T I?
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] [Child talking] Okay, uh, I worked at T I for a little while.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Uh, we have got a book that says, uh, HOW DO THEY DO THAT?
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And it answers everything.
[speaker002:] Oh, really?
[speaker001:] Yeah [child talking]. And I, well, not everything but a lot of silly little questions.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. That,
[speaker001:] Like what makes a firefly light,
[speaker002:] Oh,
[speaker001:] you know [LAUGHTER] [child talking].
[speaker002:] yeah. Those are, oh, interesting. Oh, you like science things? Uh, I have not gotten them in a long time. What is that, uh, one that is on T V? That book, uh, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC is really a fascinating book, uh,
[speaker001:] Now.
[speaker002:] uh, if you ever get those or e-,
[speaker001:] Yeah, uh-huh. Well, that, do not,
[speaker002:] But I have not gotten them in years, uh, th-, they were kind of expensive. I know people just collect them like they are,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] uh,
[speaker001:] [Noise] [child talking].
[speaker002:] They have wonderful pi-, photographs and just amazing photographs that
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] they have done.
[speaker001:] We used, my little sister was blind and going to school, and she would have to come home at night, cut out different, she was not [child talking] fully blind, just legally blind.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But she would have to cut out different colors, and that is the best book to go through, those NATIONAL
[speaker002:] It is.
[speaker001:] GEOGRAPHIC.
[speaker002:] It is. They, they, they, uh, the photographers just got
[speaker001:] And they are great.
[speaker002:] fantastic pictures in those things. Uh,
[speaker001:] Oh, now I do like NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC and stuff. Because I, like I said, I like reading about, I don't know, animals. I love reading about animals.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] The gorillas and stuff.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And the sloth, it fascinates me. That's something moves that slow [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] And it is just weird.
[speaker002:] You know, I have not, uh,
[speaker001:] [Child talking].
[speaker002:] of course, was it all books and things or was it any, did it say anything about newspapers? I have forgotten what the question was exactly. But, uh,
[speaker001:] Oh, well,
[speaker002:] what do you read, I guess, in general? Or,
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well, we can talk about anything we want.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Uh, I, I glance at all newspapers. I do like, uh, since the re-, since the economy is doing so bad, I never have read the, uh, uh, financial pages more often than now, you know. And trying to analyze and look for some good news in, in there, you know. Uh,
[speaker001:] Well, for me
[speaker002:] to see if the,
[speaker001:] there is no imme-, well, wh-, you know, the financial pages does not hit me directly. Which I am sure it does if I get into it. But like I said, I do not keep up on all that.
[speaker002:] Well, I have only been more interested because of things are doing so bad and everything. I thought
[speaker001:] Yeah. The,
[speaker002:] well, uh, see if there is anything in there that, uh, uh, would be s-, positive, you know. You always look for things with,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] with this terrible recession that we are in, uh,
[speaker001:] With everything
[speaker002:] to see if there is any go-,
[speaker001:] going down?
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah, yeah. It is, uh, hopefully, uh, we will recover here, uh,
[speaker001:] Yeah, I know I heard Bush say that, you know, we are either bottoming out or seem to be.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But that is Bush saying that [buzz].
[speaker002:] Yeah. Right and he, he, yeah, I know, I do not really know if, uh, any one person knows, uh,
[speaker001:] [TV].
[speaker002:] uh, what some of the problems are. Uh, but there, there are some, there are some interesting things in the paper, really.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well, I like Ann Landers [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] No. I like getting the paper and [NOISE] reading the want ads and just, I do skim over it.
[speaker002:] It,
[speaker001:] But mainly I am a front page person. I do not go into the details.
[speaker002:] Yeah. No, I glance at it. I, I wi-, with the, so much, {F uh, } you sound like you have a family too. But with a family and everything, there is just so much going on that I, uh, actually I am more of a r-, not more of a radio buff but, uh, it is easier to do when I do some chores,
[speaker001:] [Child talking].
[speaker002:] or yard work or anything, put the radio on and listen to that. And,
[speaker001:] Well, I know at T I they have most of the stuff on the printout, don't they? I mean, on the computer where you can read the daily
[speaker002:] Oh,
[speaker001:] news?
[speaker002:] yeah. I do, every time I come in, uh, I will punch up, but they call it T News and all that.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And I, I do get, uh, it gets a little bit of everything. Even the, the last page, is, uh, is sport, uh, listings and, and different things. Uh, and world news,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] you know, about,
[speaker001:] Yeah. When I wor-,
[speaker002:] you can read it in one minute, you know.
[speaker001:] Huh. When I worked at T I, I read that more than I read the regular newspaper.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Because I would read that every day because you would find ten minutes here that you do not have anything to do. I know you do, being an engineer.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] There are some times when you have got ten or fifteen or even an hour off [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Not much, not in the area I worked in [child talking]. We had an engineer in there every ten minutes.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] So,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. It is, it is, it is, uh, interesting, uh, with the computer to read the computer news and,
[speaker001:] [Child talking].
[speaker002:] all that. I, I guess that is a, tha-, that is a source of reading. I hadn't thought about that in that respect, uh,
[speaker001:] [Child talking] Yeah. Well, it just encouraged me to read it.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah, yeah. It, it does have a good, uh, simple, uh, you know, again you can read it in, uh, in a lot less than ten minutes. It is usually,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] you can, you can page through it in,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I do not read everything on, some of the stuff is pretty boring. I, I skip over some of that. But, uh,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] uh, it is,
[speaker001:] Well, see that is me with the newspaper.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Especially financial page.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] I do not,
[speaker002:] Well,
[speaker001:] uh, I read it so less and I watch so little T V, I did not even know what the deal was with this, uh, oh, I cannot remember his name now. Him and his wife are getting divorced, and he is tycoon or something.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. Uh,
[speaker001:] What is his name?
[speaker002:] uh, Trump. Donald Trump. Yeah.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Trump. I did not even know, I still do not know what the whole deal was with that.
[speaker002:] Well, I guess because he was so rich, you know. When you are that rich, uh, you always get into the paper, whatever, if you have a family problem, whatever.
[speaker001:] Oh [faintly].
[speaker002:] Well, he had a young girlfriend. He was, he is well into his forties, and I guess he got a young girlfriend who, uh, and, and then every, every time you take, you, you are that rich, you just get, uh, in that, uh, in the news immed-, immediately, you know.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Immediately.
[speaker002:] Uh, which is tough.
[speaker001:] [Child talking] So that is all it was? He was just having an affair on his wife?
[speaker002:] Well, that and, uh, his business is going down the tubes so bad, you know.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] He was, uh, uh, essentially like you said, a tycoon. Uh, Donald Trump and had it all. He was high roller for about ten years, and then he is now, uh, essentially bankrupt, you know.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] And so, uh, h-,
[speaker001:] That has got to be hard to go from really rich
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] to poor.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] [TV] Which I am sure he ain't poor.
[speaker002:] No, right, uh, who knows, uh,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] what he has really got. But, uh, he was kind of an arro-, arrogant guy, so I think the newsmen, uh, enjoyed, uh, writing about him on his way down, you know.
[speaker001:] [Child talking] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And his wife was very, uh, uh, seemed to be very smart. And actually running some of his business.
[speaker001:] [Child talking].
[speaker002:] It was, uh, she was actually somewhat of a business partner of his, uh, did very well.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] Ivana Trump, uh. Oh, yeah, they have been on all the news and everything. In the, in the papers and, uh, uh, on Barbara Walters and everything else.
[speaker001:] [Child talking] Well, see that is like I said. I like, I do not watch much T V any more either.
[speaker002:] Huh.
[speaker001:] But I have got three kids [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. I can imagine.
[speaker001:] So it is hard to watch T V.
[speaker002:] Right, yeah.
[speaker001:] Except for Donald Duck.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Uh, uh, I know what you mean, really.
[speaker001:] Well, anyway, I have enjoyed talking to you.
[speaker002:] Okay. Yeah, well, uh, hang in there. And good luck with those kids.
[speaker001:] Yeah. And have a good holiday.
[speaker002:] Right. Bye-bye.
[speaker001:] Bye-bye.