[speaker001:] but a lot of women are knowledge as knowledge about football as I am can I guess your favorite team if you had one might be the Steelers well I can understand that I you know I kind of like the Cowboys too
[speaker002:] yes uh-huh do you
[speaker001:] they've had some great games in the past
[speaker002:] uh-huh I I always enjoy watching this Dallas the Dallas and Pittsburgh together you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh me too it wasn't nearly as much fun when Bradshaw was playing for you guys I'll tell you he lives in the Dallas area now as a matter of fact
[speaker002:] does he really
[speaker001:] well actually it's probably closer to Fort Worth but it's it's in the same area he bought uh bought a big horse farm out in a little town called Roanoke Texas
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] but he pops up on the Dallas scene quite often as a matter of fact there was some talk about trying to get him involved with the team management in some sort of a coaching job
[speaker002:] oh wow I wonder if he'd ever do that
[speaker001:] I don't know he'd be good at it he's such a motivator he primarily you know with the quarterbacks that would be his specialty I wished I wished they could work something I really like him I really do
[speaker002:] yes uh-huh uh-huh well what about the Houston Oilers do you like them
[speaker001:] yeah okay I'd love to see Dallas and Houston play in a Super Bowl that would be really great
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] that may not ever happen I don't know uh Houston has had some wonderful talent you know down through the years and in the earlier years they really had some super teams
[speaker002:] uh-huh and Warren Moon is is proving himself quite well right now
[speaker001:] that's right he certainly is he's very good
[speaker002:] uh-huh he's one of the few uh black quarterbacks that there are
[speaker001:] he's very good that's right Randall Cunningham was with Philadelphia I guess last year but he's no longer with the team so you're right there are very few black quarterbacks or at least that are starting anyway how do you think the Steelers are going to do this year you have any idea
[speaker002:] uh-huh I don't know I hope they they do better they they during the past couple of years they've been doing a little bit better
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but uh I think they still have a little I think they're still such a a young team I think they still have a little bit to go before they reach the potential that it did when ever Bradshaw was playing
[speaker001:] yeah oh yeah that was just such super team
[speaker002:] or if they even reach that potential again you know they may never reach that again
[speaker001:] yeah well that's a tough it would be tough to do it really would they have such a super team for years
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] that won what four Super Bowls
[speaker002:] yeah four in a row
[speaker001:] four in a row I don't know if that could ever be duplicated again or not
[speaker002:] oh I don't know shooting for one for the thumb now is what they were saying but basically everyone that was on the team then is gone now so
[speaker001:] yeah that's right and that's right that's right
[speaker002:] I think Mike Webster was left but then he he just left uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah he may have been the last of the old guard I don't know
[speaker002:] yeah I think he is I think he was
[speaker001:] yeah they had such a super team
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] have you been following the big draft that occurred yesterday
[speaker002:] no I didn't
[speaker001:] I see
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] there's quite a bit of activity now of course they had so many you know nice uh choices because their record was so lousy the last few years they picked up you know quiet a few
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] of the of course you never know the guys they pick you know may may never play a game you just never know it's it's a gamble it really is they may get hurt or not be able to participate at that level if you know
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh well who would you say is your favorite player or has ever been your favorite player
[speaker001:] ever been
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] probably an old guy that played probably before you were born his name was Sam Huff he used to play for the New York Giants
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] that was one of the toughest guys that I've ever seen in my life as far as you know dedication he just went all out every single play of course there have been some other great ones too Dick Butkis and Bradshaw you know there's been so many
[speaker002:] really uh-huh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] but if I had to pick one I would probably pick Sam Huff as a matter of fact
[speaker002:] oh you know that's really funny um well I I come from a large family and there there's quite a few boys so that's kind of how I got in with the football either watch that or watch nothing and um
[speaker001:] uh-huh that's right
[speaker002:] at one time I could name all the players on the Steelers you know and but even when Bradshaw was playing I I don't know I I didn't particularly care for him I thought he was kind of cocky or something uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh-huh he is he is of course there a quarterback has a big ego
[speaker002:] yes uh-huh
[speaker001:] they really do they have to have they can't survive
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] they always think they can win you know which is the way it should be and boy he never gave up I'll tell you
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah him and Franco Harris I really didn't care for the either two of them
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] I mean they were good but I you know you couldn't deny that but I didn't I thought you know well I just didn't really care for either one of them uh today my favorites out of those guys were probably um
[speaker001:] oh yeah uh-huh
[speaker002:] Lambert Ham and uh Stallworth and Swan
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh absolutely I can't disagree with that they were super players they really were they really
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh I I I like not just with the Pittsburgh I like watching on Saturday afternoons when they'll have like the plays or the the best plays from you know from the week or something
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah highlights yeah uh-huh
[speaker002:] yeah I love watching that then I like watching their bloopers too you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah yeah that's kind of funny too as a matter of fact some of them a a bit embarrassing yeah well they make mistakes too I guess
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh it's funny that more people don't get hurt
[speaker001:] absolutely absolutely
[speaker002:] you know especially I would say the receivers when they're in the air and they get tackled
[speaker001:] uh-huh go ahead they take such a beating
[speaker002:] oh yeah it's funny some of their necks don't get broken
[speaker001:] absolutely I don't know how they do it it's it must just take a hundred percent concentration I guess because they know they're going to get hit it's just a matter of how hard you know or where
[speaker002:] yeah an they have to be in ideal physical shape basically
[speaker001:] oh absolutely they look like sometimes they're just broken in two like a match stem gosh what a beating they really do take a beating they really do
[speaker002:] yeah well what did you think of um a couple years ago for the Bears the refrigerator
[speaker001:] I think he was just probably a passing phenomena I think I don't know I I'm knowing what you know of course Mike Ditka was in Dallas for years and years as coach is knowing his or you know knowing of his temperament I'm just surprised he ever you know kept the guy around I really am he's such a he's about a half hot head anyway such a temper
[speaker002:] oh you know and to me he does um oh he's just so big and fat he doesn't even look like he's in shape he's just so big no one can move him
[speaker001:] uh-huh that's right yeah absolutely there's just so much mass there I guess they just can't I don't know you know I probably the guy is you know probably physically strong I you know obviously not very fast but I guess it's just
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] like you say a mass that nobody can seem to to get out of the way as far as him scoring touch downs you know I think that was kind of weird I don't know Dallas has a guy uh his name is Nate Newton now he has a real weight problem too he fights it every single year but he manages to still keep playing but
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] he has a terrible weight problem
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] they watch the coaches watch him all year long they they weigh him several times a year just to make sure he's not you know completely out of control
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but I guess most every team has some has someone like that I don't know
[speaker002:] oh yeah there's there are some really big guys playing in football
[speaker001:] absolutely they get bigger and bigger it seems every year I guess you have to to
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] know to stay in the game I guess yeah
[speaker002:] yeah you would uh-huh um now who would you say that you have a favorite I mean other than Dallas would you say that you have uh a favorite quarterback I mean the quarterback's seem to get most of the the attention you know
[speaker001:] oh yeah sure well you'd have to uh or I would have to say you know someone like Montana I guess who's done so well for so many years
[speaker002:] yeah I really I I enjoy watching him play
[speaker001:] yeah his age is about to catch up with him though he's no Spring chicken anymore and like you say Warren Moon's an excellent Warren Moon's an excellent but he's very exciting to watch uh-huh sure uh-huh absolutely
[speaker002:] no but he's still performing yes he is I I I enjoy watching him also what about uh Marino
[speaker001:] uh I'm obviously he's a very good quarterback I'd I never was you know too a whole lot of a big fan you know
[speaker002:] I think he'll get better as he gets older
[speaker001:] yeah he may uh-huh
[speaker002:] because he he well was he was the youngest quarterback there was wasn't he
[speaker001:] yes he was I believe that's right at one point in time yeah but he's a very young fellow yeah
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] of course a quarterback can look so good if he's got a lot if he's got a good supporting cast you know if not he gets beat to death like poor old Troy Aikman has the last couple of years anyway you know well Dallas did better last year hopefully they'll do better this year
[speaker002:] that's true that's true uh probably around twelve uh-huh yeah um I didn't I don't know I I just think you know Marino will get better and uh his team's not as good as what it was when he went to the Super Bowl you know so
[speaker001:] uh-huh that's right that's right yeah Miami's had some down years too
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but they all do I guess it's it's cyclical I guess as the players get older get slower
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah that's true yeah and with age comes you know the the I'm sure arthritis sets in with them you know right yeah
[speaker001:] get slower  yeah oh yeah oh yes very much so hip injuries and things like that yeah yeah that that forces a lot of the guys to get out of the game
[speaker002:] uh-huh and they're so young but they're retired you know and their so young still
[speaker001:] that's right uh-huh yeah I read some time well not too long ago that the average uh professional career only lasts seven years so that's when you think about it that's really not a very long time of course
[speaker002:] oh oh yeah but then you think about how many have been in there longer than that
[speaker001:] yeah but if the average is seven years that means a lot of guys don't make it seven years you know
[speaker002:] yeah a lot of them would have to get out like in just a couple
[speaker001:] that's right yeah that's right yeah
[speaker002:] holy smokes I didn't that doesn't seem like very long
[speaker001:] that's that's a pretty short career on average
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] of course they play their you know cards right and do some good investments they'll you know they'll do all right but a lot of them don't unfortunately
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah um what do you think of the uh LA Raiders used to the the Oakland
[speaker001:] yeah they they're always branded you know as a bunch of outlaws and if their if their you know arrest record won't let able won't let them play anywhere else they seem to go to they seem to go to the Raiders but that just may be you know perceived
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know perception I don't know Al Davis is he's a kind of strange character strange strange looking guy apparently he's kind of a wild guy I don't really know for sure they've had some excellent teams though obviously I'm not sure they've yet decided where they want to play they keeping talk about you know going
[speaker002:] yes they have uh-huh