[speaker002:] how many children do you have now
[speaker001:] well I have five
[speaker002:] you have five well you do have a hard time finding time then don't you
[speaker001:] right well five are I mean four of them are grown they're in college or just out of college so I really have just a thirteen year old at home
[speaker002:] um-hum you sound so young
[speaker001:] well I work at it I try to fool everybody uh-huh
[speaker002:] to have them uh I think you're doing a good job I just have one child and uh I don't think um well there's not much I can do about it my my wife and I are uh in our forties you know so uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but it's hard to raise one child without them thinking they're the they're the pivot point of the universe
[speaker001:] I think you're right because I was an only child too and that's one reason I have so many because I really I enjoyed the big family
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and my thirteen year old is pretty separate from her brother and sisters and so she's sort of like an only child and it's the same type of thing um
[speaker002:] um-hum I have a younger brother like that I'm in my forties like I say and I have a brother in his twenties and I was I was the youngest
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] so I understand how that worked and he was treated like he had five fathers or something
[speaker001:] right that's exactly how it is you know she's got all these sisters and her brother to take care of her when things don't go right she just calls one of them you know but um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] yeah it's it's a little bit difficult though I think it was easier when they all had each other and could entertain each other and I was home more and
[speaker002:] did y'all do a lot of organized things like uh Little League uh soccer and
[speaker001:] we we really did not my next oldest daughter that's in college in California is a world twirling champion she twirls a baton and we did a lot of things together she and I did a lot of things together and flew we've flown all over the world for her to compete and to perform
[speaker002:] uh-huh um-hum
[speaker001:] and that was a lot of fun but that that I guess you could consider that organized I mean there's a competition all the time we were very heavy into that
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] other than that they were pretty much and maybe dancing school for a while or mainly school sports and things like that
[speaker002:] you know I think that's probably true the if you have one child or fewer you get involved in organized events or activities and if you have a large number of children or then you don't
[speaker001:] uh-huh well you can't afford to
[speaker002:] no you can't and there's not enough time um like my son is in uh Little League this year he's ten
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and they practice three times a week and they have a game and it's just uh if there were more than one child I don't know there there would be no way to do it
[speaker001:] right that's right
[speaker002:] you know one parent go in one direction and I'd have to go in the other and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] we could only cover two at that
[speaker001:] yeah well I know I spent hours in the gym everyday with my daughter and my little one also competed because really she had no choice she had to go with me
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] so the three of us just spent a lot of time traveling and and competing and of course the competing itself really didn't matter what it was it was making the friends and going all the places and it was a really neat experience but it took our total time I did not work um when I did this now I do work full time
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and it's just my thirteen year old and myself and so we really have to keep it together to get just her activities in and still have time to spend with each other
[speaker002:] I don't think although I think a a more than one child probably three children is probably the ideal to me but I'm not sure I could afford three I most certainly couldn't educate three I don't know how my my parents did it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I mean there were five of us I don't recall you know wanting anything in particular uh but I don't know how my father did it he worked at a truck line and he just didn't make that kind of money with five children but we did okay we had a house and a home and but now my wife and I both work and we don't I don't believe we have as much as my parents did and we only have one child
[speaker001:] really well things cost a lot more I don't know how it is in Georgia and I don't think our part of the country is particularly bad compared to some
[speaker002:] um-hum um Atlanta's horrible yes have we have a lot of people moving here from Boston and and different areas and from talking to them they're shocked
[speaker001:] is it really
[speaker002:] what and they you know the housing so cheap in comparison to Boston that they jump on it they sell their house they stash away a good bit of money
[speaker001:] right that's what I've heard
[speaker002:] and come down here and I work with a lot of them they they think they they've really done something then when they get down here they realize the cost of living is outrageous
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] compared to to where they came from the housing's cheaper but that's about it
[speaker001:] yeah I'm surprised to hear that I've heard very positive things about Atlanta everybody