[speaker001:] I guess you heard our conversation our topic for today was clothing
[speaker002:] right yeah I certainly did
[speaker001:] how you dress for work and season to season and everything
[speaker002:] uh uh-huh
[speaker001:] how do you dress for work
[speaker002:] well uh uh about the same I dress for school I uh I I'm a graduate I'm a graduate student so I don't have to worry too much about uh what I wear too much of the time
[speaker001:] sure
[speaker002:] uh which is nice uh uh I've uh although I do uh a lot of I'm a speech pathology major and so I do a lot of clinical work and when I do clinic work then I have to uh uh look my best
[speaker001:] you bet look professional
[speaker002:] yeah unfortunately
[speaker001:] yeah I understand I'm a I own my own company I'm in the I'm a manufactures rep sales organization and my office is a small office and I'm very casual and wear slacks and sports shirt things like that
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] but then when I travel it's a little different situation it's uh suit and sports coat tie and the whole bit because you go to meetings and you're required to look your best and look professional of course
[speaker002:] yeah sure uh-huh yeah yeah uh do uh do you find that uh on the average do people give uh more credibility or less credibility to a to a professional to professionally professionally dressed individual
[speaker001:] yeah I think in today's society uh there's more credibility quite honest
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I'll always remember I'll tell this real quick story when I graduated college my first job years ago uh thirty years ago twenty twenty nine years ago in fact was selling uh agricultural fertilizer
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I worked for the uh Smith Douglas Division of Borden Chemical and I sold uh you know manure
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh I would go out and call on farmers and I was always try to look my best wearing sport coats and things like that but I was calling on guys that wore bib overalls and so
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] one day I got up and thought well I'll just go casual and do you know that I called on a guy wearing exactly that bib overalls and he sort of told me that he expected me to be professional
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh he sort of expected me to dress as a professional so uh it was sort of was
[speaker002:] oh really even even the farmers oh wow
[speaker001:] you bet even even back then so I've sort a uh been aware of my dress ever since then and try to look my best but but here again I dress casual quite a bit so
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh yeah certainly
[speaker001:] it depends on who you call on in my business if I call on the the JC Penney company here in Dallas or say someone say Sears and Roebuck in Chicago then I wear coat and tie if I call on just uh a normal little dealer of mine I might be casual
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I call on Oshman's sporting goods again it may be casual or it may be coat and tie so it just it it depends
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah it depends sure uh so you don't you uh if you had the choice would you wear a tie or no
[speaker001:] um probably no
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] probably no
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] because uh today I believe you can get away with it but then it depends on who you're calling on who you're it'd be like your your minister standing up in front of you with no tie you just uh he'd be missing something although he shouldn't be evaluated on that
[speaker002:] um-hum right right
[speaker001:] so it is it's it's just different
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah that uh that's uh if if you wanted to to uh really get into a hot issue uh well at least in some in some beliefs uh uh how people dress when they go to church is uh is uh sometimes a pretty pretty hot topic
[speaker001:] yes it is
[speaker002:] uh unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately
[speaker001:] I'm uh lightly a Catholic and the people uh that go to my church are you know the Catholics dress very casual you're liable to find
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] people in jeans and and and whatever but yet the way I was raised I'm a converted Catholic the way I was raised I was raised a Baptist and it seems like as a youngster I use to always dress up all the time but I guess that has changed also
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh yeah I'm I'm a I I go to the Church of Christ I've been raised in Church of Christ and uh I I uh  too many times you you hear you hear a lot about what what you're uh supposed you're supposed to look your your Sunday best and uh uh dress in proper attire and uh and sometimes that really disappoints me uh in
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] in uh when I see in other economic areas uh like in Kentucky
[speaker001:] sure
[speaker002:] uh you know people just don't have that and they are afraid to go to church or afraid to go simply because they don't have the clothes to wear
[speaker001:] but at the very that's a very good point I'm from West Virginia so I understand what you're saying there and there it's it's just a very good point
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] but uh you shouldn't what's the old saying you shouldn't judge a book by its cover
[speaker002:] certainly
[speaker001:] and uh evaluation of of an individual of course I think it depends on the type of job responsibility you have I think you have to dress sort of accordingly
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but uh you certainly should not judge a book by its cover and uh or evaluate a person by that
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] but what about season to season does I guess your dress changes
[speaker002:] uh yeah a little bit uh course in the summer if I can get away with it I wear uh uh a pair of shorts and that's it run around barefoot no shirt or anything uh but uh