[speaker001:] so what do you think about it
[speaker002:] well I found it interesting that they started off with a problems of immigration in America and then went back and said well if there is a problem what should we do about it
[speaker001:] right yeah I guess that's so
[speaker002:] do you feel there's a problem with immigration in America
[speaker001:] um uh I think there are some problems but they're not really big ones I think that um in general the whole immigration policy isn't quite as open as it should be that it's really pretty hard for people from other countries to get in here like even if they're educated and will be a good asset to America it's often hard for them to get in and get on the track towards citizenship unless they marry a citizen or something like that
[speaker002:] okay that's interesting I was I was wondering what your response would be I'm a first generation American
[speaker001:] okay uh where did you come from
[speaker002:] so I'm from immigrant parents or an immigrant mother anyway
[speaker001:] okay okay so where did your parents come from
[speaker002:] uh Poland
[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] and that was you know prior to World War Two
[speaker001:] and um-hum
[speaker002:] but it's interesting that you know with the topic I think I agree with you there needs to be more of an open policy
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] and you know we have to remember the Chinese came here and were our labor you know for the railroad Transatlantic Railroad and
[speaker001:] yep
[speaker002:] our Irish came and you know built the towns and did labor
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but what do you think are you from Texas or
[speaker001:] I'm from Pennsylvania
[speaker002:] Pennsylvania okay well that'll be interesting
[speaker001:] yeah right and um a lot of
[speaker002:] because we have just had a naturalization act where the Mexicans that were residents in Texas I'm from Texas
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and have become citizens now
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] what do you think about that
[speaker001:] um I think that's all right I um at least on the surface it sounds like a good thing do you have an opinion about it
[speaker002:] well I agree with it wholeheartedly the only thing is I've got to share with you and my background is from New Jersey
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] so when you were giving your answer I was thinking is this a Texan I'm talking to because Texan philosophy is a little different
[speaker001:] no okay right well a lot of the experience that I have with this problem has to do with my brother-in-law who's Chinese and immigrated from China and um you know he um got a green card is and is in good standing in America and in China but only because he was always pretty nice to the Chinese government
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and all that and he was always on pretty good terms with them
[speaker002:] yeah well we
[speaker001:] but um their my sister just had a baby and they're trying to get permission for his mother to come to America to like help care for the kid and that sort of thing and it's turned out to be sort of a horrible problem it's just very difficult to get a a woman who doesn't have a lot of assets or whatever out of China even temporarily to visit here
[speaker002:] oh well then you have first in the experience on immigration
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] well that is interesting
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] yeah well I well I wonder you know even with those that were involved with Tiananmen Square you know did we really protect them
[speaker001:] right yeah that's and I think that's pretty crazy because
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I mean those students who were in America when that was happening are almost certainly going to be in trouble if they go back and besides that they're the best and brightest of China so it's certainly in our best selfish interest to keep them here if we can
[speaker002:] that is true that is true
[speaker001:] yep
[speaker002:] well what do you think about we have in Texas a large Vietnamese population
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] that has been brought in
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] what do you think about that
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] and these are not the brightest I mean we
[speaker001:] see these are refugees you mean okay
[speaker002:] we're talking boat people
[speaker001:] right okay
[speaker002:] we have a lot of boat people in Texas
[speaker001:] right well um I don't have any problem with that um
[speaker002:] you're a true liberal heart-to-heart good for you I was ready for a fight on this one
[speaker001:] yeah I guess so uh-huh right um-hum
[speaker002:] no I agree because um interesting my when my daughter was in high school one of the custodians was Vietnamese
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and with his limited English they found out through you know that she was in student council and they found out that he was a medical doctor