[speaker001:] okay let's see do you live uh do you live in a neighborhood that uh has been affected recently by any uh crimes
[speaker002:] uh let me see not recently I we're Framingham is uh midway between Boston and Worcester and it's mostly mostly in Boston that we're finding a lot of problems um basically it's lined up blacks versus whites and there've been a lot of murders and mostly boyfriend girlfriend type of thing
[speaker001:] yeah we uh in Portland is is pretty uh how shall I say it they have a lot of problems but the problems are confined confined to low income neighborhoods well I shouldn't say low income neighborhoods uh neighborhoods where a lot of low income families live and and uh where there's lot a lot of drug and uh broken families and things like that
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh that doesn't I I try to uh in my thinking to keep from blaming it on the on the nationality of people and more blame it on the culture of the uh you know broken families and and uh drugs and things like that
[speaker002:] right I think drugs plays a really big part a lot of times it doesn't come out in the paper or on the news um you know they're more into as far as the news reporters into oh you know two black guys killed each other or they knifed each other other to death and we have a lot with uh gang problems
[speaker001:] yes the gang problems
[speaker002:] yeah that
[speaker001:] the the problem
[speaker002:] that seems to be the major thing and we just recently with all the problems that there are in Boston we did have I was thinking we did have one crime in Framingham where a girl picked up a guy at a bar and uh her kids woke up she brought him home and her kids woke up and she was dead she had been knifed to death
[speaker001:] oh my goodness
[speaker002:] and he was a homeless person but why anybody would want to bring somebody like that home you know
[speaker001:] too many hormones huh
[speaker002:] really I think that was the the major part of it too much alcohol and she just invited him in and he waited until she was sleeping and then let her have it
[speaker001:] too much alcohol  yeah just kind of a psychopath
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] the the crime problem is uh I don't know if if you're this is uh about a four hour topic but a five minute uh window here so the for me I feel very bad about uh the people that are affected uh the people in the crime ridden areas are more innocent in some cases uh than the than the press finds well what I'm really trying to say is they are working class people who work very hard and are seriously affected by that and uh so even though I see
[speaker002:] um-hum right um-hum
[speaker001:] uh how shall I say it uh the problems of crime affect the black working class and uh minority working people
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] much worse than they affect me uh so the the crime problem has to be solved one of the problems that I see is that and they always compare uh America they say well in America we have uh you know a gun problem and uh uh that I I read a discussion once of of uh the reason why England for instance uh has their gun problems and other problems are so low and it basically boils down to they don't have the Bill of Rights doesn't exit for those guys if you are standing at a corner and somebody and the Bobby walks up to you and he says you've been standing here four buses have gone by uh you're a pickpocket empty your pockets if he finds some things in in there then they will proceed to your house perhaps and uh say open your door up and go in and search your house and after that they can enter at any time
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] now that has the advantage of uh weeding out how shall I say it of getting rid of the dandelions before they've before they uh populate your lawn
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] but it it just doesn't function in our court system over here we we won't allow you to be uh frisked by a cop uh without good reason
[speaker002:] yeah I think that's wrong I think that's where the law has got to change because they've found uh how many people have we read about or heard about in the national news that have been picked up and because of a technicality they're left let off
[speaker001:] yeah an actually
[speaker002:] you know and that's really not right and then they go out and do it again you know
[speaker001:] that's right and and like I my earlier example uh uh I could spend every day all day just picking the heads off of dandelions uh once I let my lawn get infested
[speaker002:] um-hum right
[speaker001:] uh