[speaker001:] I was gonna say my uh college is Northern State University in Aberdeen South Dakota and our head football coach Dennis Miller used to be an assistant coach at BYU
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] so I thought that was kind of an interesting interesting coincidence
[speaker002:] huh so you went to what college
[speaker001:] uh Northern State University in Aberdeen South Dakota
[speaker002:] and what did you graduate in
[speaker001:] I just in what major or what year
[speaker002:] yeah major
[speaker001:] uh international business
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] and you
[speaker002:] I'm going to BYU and I'm going into nursing
[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] well that sounds interesting ah how long of a program is that
[speaker002:] forever seems like anyways it's about five years but it's probably gonna take me longer because I didn't decide to major in that until uh about a year and a half after I was already in school so
[speaker001:] you know I read a study once and it said that uh like thirty four percent of uh college students actually graduate in four years from a four year program
[speaker002:] oh really that sounds
[speaker001:] it took me it took me five years you know you just you get started and and you change your mind or you wanna pick up a second major if you're management you you you decide I'll I'll take that marketing it's just what three more classes
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] you know and it it just just doesn't happen that you get out in four years
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but
[speaker002:] so what is your advice to
[speaker001:] my advice is is uh
[speaker002:] picking a college
[speaker001:] look for at the student to faculty ratio you know if you're gonna go to a college where student faculty ratio is three and four hundred to one I don't think you're gonna have as meaningful of of a college experience as if you're down to the thirty to forty to one
[speaker002:] um-hum is that what was yours more like
[speaker001:] yeah ours was about twenty six to one
[speaker002:] really oh that's great
[speaker001:] yeah which is you know it it's interesting but it it's what I thought was nice is you could always there was always time to talk to professor you know and and they knew you
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you weren't just in their class you know and so you could you could go talk to them in their office hours at any time and or if you ran into them in the student union or whatever you know you could sit down and talk to them about a problem they were always willing to help you out so but our house I I put that against uh my high school where we had uh a biology class of three hundred and fifty students and
[speaker002:] wow in high school
[speaker001:] yeah it was a biology lecture class
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] and you know it it
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] it just wasn't the same you're sitting there and you're taking notes and you know you got a computerized test scores with multiple choice because there's no way they could correct a three hundred fifty point short answer test or you know a three hundred and three hundred and fifty person short answer test
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and it just wasn't the same you you'd run you'd pass the teacher in high school you know and even in high school you could say hi to your teachers and unless you're in that biology class and they just you know they'd look at you like do I know you or should I know you
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah there's it's the classes here are pretty big so it's hard to get individual help it's kind of you're on your own
[speaker001:] do you get uh a lot of tutoring or
[speaker002:] no very little I mean well like my for example I have I'm in a chemistry class right now and there's tons of students in it and there's one TA for the whole class
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and he only has certain office hours and so there's only certain times you can talk to him and
[speaker001:] and you could get there and his office hours could I mean he could have like a nine to eleven in the morning office hours and have forty two people waiting to talk to him and you still wouldn't get to talk to him anyway
[speaker002:] right yeah
[speaker001:] well what would be your advice to a parent of a child thinking of attending college
[speaker002:] oh man I think your advice is good um let's see  my advice would be to pick a major before you get into college
[speaker001:] that's excellent advice
[speaker002:] because I I didn't and I took ton of classes that I didn't need to and um I don't know I just feel like I'm it's it's gonna take me a lot longer than and not that's always bad but it's I don't know it's frustrating I guess
[speaker001:] well it it it does get it you know you get to the point where it's I'm never gonna get done
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] you know I I mean I was taking summer classes and finally I said let me get out of here
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] but uh no that's good advice even if you don't have your major decided on have an idea of what you think you might want you know so you don't want management but you think you want business
[speaker002:] um-hum