[speaker001:] I don't know what you drive now. I mean, what do you drive now?
[speaker002:] Uh, I have a Ford pickup and, uh, the family car is a, uh, a Dodge Caravan.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay.
[speaker002:] And, uh, because we have three kids and they're under thirteen [sniffing] so, uh
[speaker001:] Throw them in the back.
[speaker002:] they sort of fit our requirement. Yeah, I have a, one of those, uh, pickups with the, uh, seat
[speaker001:] Cab.
[speaker002:] with a seat in the back.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah?
[speaker002:] And so they just fit in there. When they get to be teenagers with long legs, it may not work.
[speaker001:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Right now, I can, right now, I can throw them all in the back when we have room and, uh
[speaker001:] There you go.
[speaker002:] and since I do a lot of projects, I throw things in the back and I kind of like having a pickup truck.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yo-,
[speaker002:] Actually, I think of it as a [throat clearing], as a car that'll last [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Right, yeah, I know.
[speaker002:] I like the way trucks are built and I don't care about comfort. So, I'm pretty happy.
[speaker001:] Yeah, you're looking at, I got a Toyota Four Runner. I wanted a truck that I, I wanted something that I could throw people in the back too, so I got a Four Runner.
[speaker002:] So I wouldn't hesitate to get another one. I, I never buy new so I wouldn't hesitate to get another used truck.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] You're just like me. I've never bought a new vehicle in my life.
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing] And, uh, yeah, I don't, I don't need to pay for the glitz. I'll
[speaker001:] No.
[speaker002:] let somebody else, uh, have the showroom shine and I'll pay for the rest of it.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Let somebody else break it in, right [NOISE].
[speaker002:] Right. And, uh, the van we're sor-, we might go again on a, on a van. We, we could probably do with a, a, something just a little bit larger than a compact in a sedan next time. I'm not sure.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] We have to, we, we'll have to face it in a couple of years but, uh,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I, I guess, we had a small Toyota wagon
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing] and we were real happy with that because, uh, my, my second requirement after price is, uh, low maintenance.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] And, uh, th-, it certainly had that. We didn't do much to it at all.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] So.
[speaker001:] Yeah, my, my, pretty much the same. I, I got a, like I say I got one of those Toyota Four Runners
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, uh, it pretty much does everything I need it to. I mean, it, it'll tow three thousand pounds so I can tow everything and it, I can throw, I've had eleven people in it before [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Believe it or not. And, uh, it's real reliable, belie-, I, I mean I've had it for almost four years now and up until, oh, say two weeks ago, it had never had anything [LAUGHTER] wrong with it.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And then, of course, two weeks ago,
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing].
[speaker001:] it decided, I don't know, it's the strangest, weirdest thing in the world, but it blew a head gasket.
[speaker002:] Uh-oh.
[speaker001:] Didn't do any damage to it. Uh, I caught
[speaker002:] How, at how
[speaker001:] it real early.
[speaker002:] at how many miles?
[speaker001:] Uh, oh ninety-seven
[speaker002:] Huh.
[speaker001:] thousand. So it's not real early [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] You didn't overheat it?
[speaker001:] No. Never overheated it. I smell, I smelled the, uh, I smelled the coolant [sniffing].
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Went out and looked. Saw it was, saw where it was coming from. Drove it right to the shop [LAUGHTER] and left it off.
[speaker002:] Huh. Well that was,,
[speaker001:] And that was it because I, d-, I have that and then I have a, a Kawasaki motorcycle.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Which is, actually, the, usually my preferred mode of transportation if I can take it and it's not raining.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] I mean that's, that's sort of my,
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing].
[speaker001:] hobby though more than a vehicle. It, it's a [NOISE], I don't know, people who buy motorcycles for transportation I think are kidding themselves [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I have one colleague that, uh, commutes to work on one when it's not raining and, uh, uh, he's a, it's, he's pretty conservative guy. I don't think it's much of a sport for him. I guess, uh,
[speaker001:] I know but I bet you he really enjoys riding it.
[speaker002:] I'm sure he does, yeah.
[speaker001:] Yeah. So, you know, yo-,
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing].
[speaker001:] h-, [NOISE] when was the last time you took out, took your truck out just to, just to go driving?
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] No [throat clearing].
[speaker001:] And I go out twice a week on the bike, so.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] At least. Just for
[speaker002:] Uh.
[speaker001:] the enjoyment.
[speaker002:] Yeah [throat clearing].
[speaker001:] But, yeah, I, I mean, the only thing I think I might get, a new car or, not necessarily a new car but, a, another car, uh, I would consider going to a, a non, to a normal pickup rather than a, a covered pickup like the one I've got. Just because there's a lot of times I wished I had, ju-, just an open bed to throw stuff in.
[speaker002:] Right. .
[speaker001:] I'm sure, I'm sure that that's very, I mean you got one. It's, that's really convenient to be able to throw that sort of stuff in the back and,
[speaker002:] If I only had some place that I could store the, uh, camper top, I would have it off most of the time.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] I really leave it on there just for, just to have it out of the way because you put it on the ground it gets dirty.
[speaker001:] To have it out of the way. Right.
[speaker002:] But, uh, they're solid. Uh, trucks are built, uh, I mean,
[speaker001:] I think they last a lot longer than anything else.
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing] They're the only things Americans still know how to build and, uh [throat clearing].
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah, the trucks do. Uh, even though, you know, the Jap, the little Jap trucks are, are good there too. But so are the, though I think the Chevies, I don't think the Che-, I don't like the Chevies as much as I like the Fords.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I think they, I think the Fords tend to last a little longer.
[speaker002:] Right. I
[speaker001:] At least until recently [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I kind of like mine, yeah, so, mine's a Ford [throat clearing].
[speaker001:] A friend of mine just bought, bought like a year ago. It, it's a really nice truck. I mean, I don't like Dodges at all but one of the Dodges they have out now has a, uh, the Cummins turbo diesel on it.
[speaker002:] Oh, I heard about that, yes.
[speaker001:] Oh, it's beautiful.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] That thing, that thing will last forever I mean,
[speaker002:] That, that's a serious truck.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah, that thing's, uh, it's got a boat engine in it [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Right, this, uh, I, I know a contractor who just got one of those.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] He's pleased with it.