[speaker001:] Arlington, Texas now since I got somebody from Arlington, Virginia one day [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Is that right? [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Well, I never thought about that, but there is an Arlington, like I had a call the other day from Birmingham, Michigan
[speaker001:] Oh
[speaker002:] you know, and I was thinking
[speaker001:] Birmingham.
[speaker002:] yeah, and I was thinking the only Birmingham I could think of was Alabama.
[speaker001:] Right. It's funny how many names have been used, uh, all over the country.
[speaker002:] Yeah, well, tell me what kind of books have you read?
[speaker001:] Well, to tell you the truth, I've been going to college for the last four years so mainly,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] text books.
[speaker002:] I was going to say, not fun kind, right?
[speaker001:] No, um, but, I, I really tend to like biographies a lot, not necessarily always heavy ones
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] but, you know, sometimes biogr-, I just read one about Grace Kelley. I love to read about real people. To me, half the time it's more fascinating than some of these made up stories [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah, it is, because you know that's it's really and truly
[speaker001:] Yeah, it happened.
[speaker002:] a true thing. You know, I read one about Bob Hope that I liked.
[speaker001:] Really?
[speaker002:] Yeah, that was real good. I'm like you, if it's not a heavy biography, you know
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] I enjoy it.
[speaker001:] I used to like to read about royalty a lot. I, when I was younger I read about every king and queen that lived, [LAUGHTER] I think, in Europe. That was my thing for a while.
[speaker002:] I was trying to think, uh, I read a, uh, a novel that used the names of like Princess Di and Prince Phillip coming over here to be entertained and all, and there was a murder.
[speaker001:] Oh, really.
[speaker002:] Yeah, it was some time ago. Seems like it was THE SPY WENT DANCING, or something like that.
[speaker001:] Oh, it sounds like fun.
[speaker002:] It was a lot of fun because they used these real names, you know.
[speaker001:] Wonder if it was by one of those famous writers, you know Margaret Truman Daniels writes a lot those.
[speaker002:] Yeah, in fact I believe it was because,
[speaker001:] Really?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. I believe.
[speaker001:] Sounds like something she would write.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I think it was by her, now that you mention it, because someone had given it to me, and I thought, well, this will be great, and it was.
[speaker001:] Yeah, I've heard that she's done real-, you know, her books are really interesting, and they always sell well.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, uh,
[speaker002:] Well, when you use real people like that, I think
[speaker001:] Yeah, brings it to life.
[speaker002:] royalty, especially, you know.
[speaker001:] I know, uh, the Bri-, some of the British people laugh at us because we're so enthralled with their [LAUGHTER] royalty.
[speaker002:] Yeah, but you know, that's like them being enthralled with our football and so forth, you know.
[speaker001:] I know, our movie stars.
[speaker002:] Our movie stars, because it's totally different concept to us.
[speaker001:] Oh, right.
[speaker002:] I haven't, I haven't had a chance to read a lot lately either. I have read, uh, mostly novels. I went to visit my daughter in Florida
[speaker001:] Um.
[speaker002:] and I took a novel with me, uh, and read it at Thanksgiving time, and, uh, it was, uh, one of those generation novels, you know
[speaker001:] Oh, yes.
[speaker002:] starts out when they're small and continues through generations
[speaker001:] Oh, I always like those.
[speaker002:] and I like that.
[speaker001:] Have you ever read anything by Susan Howatch?
[speaker002:] Yes, I have.
[speaker001:] Isn't she fabulous?
[speaker002:] Oh, she is wonderful.
[speaker001:] Oh, once you st-, I don't like to get one of her books because,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I, I just live to read. I'll, I'll skip everything just to get back to the book [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I stayed up one night, I think until two
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] in the morning finishing one of hers because I star-, I could not put it down.
[speaker001:] She's just a, I don't know, does she, how often does she come out with them. I probably have missed the last few since I've been back in school.
[speaker002:] Well, no, it seems like she doesn't write as often as, oh, well, like Danielle Steele and those silly things. She writes the same thing.
[speaker001:] Well, she can, she can turn them out overnight, I swear.
[speaker002:] Yeah, and, and they're the same silly things, I mean, if you've read one, I mean it's,
[speaker001:] Yeah, I've never read a whole one of hers, I don't think.
[speaker002:] It, it's practically the same thing over and over, you know.
[speaker001:] And think how rich she is.
[speaker002:] Yeah, wouldn't I, you know, I'm criticizing her, and wouldn't I like to have her money
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] because they go from hardback to paperback and she has millions of them.
[speaker001:] And then make movies out of some of them.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. You know, mini series and so forth, and it seems to me like Susan Howatch does not write as often. I have not seen as many of hers.
[speaker001:] Well, hers are so involved, and they're so
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] such a higher intellectual level, because she quotes a lot, you know.
[speaker002:] I think she does a lot of research, too.
[speaker001:] I do too, so she couldn't possibly turn them out like some of these popular
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] writers, but oh, her books are just incredible. I don't think they've ever made a movie, do you?
[speaker002:] No, I don't think so, and I've often wondered why, haven't you?
[speaker001:] Yes
[speaker002:] You know, I,
[speaker001:] well, no, uh, I really just thought about it now but there's just,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Maybe it's because they take so much in. I don't know.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Maybe they're just too involved for the average person to go and sit through them, you know.
[speaker001:] They're so big
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] they're such, you know, it would be like another GONE WITH THE WIND, I guess
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] another three hour movie [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] And maybe that turns people off, but look at GONE WITH THE WIND, you know.
[speaker001:] Oh, I know. It's about one of my favorite movies.
[speaker002:] Uh, have you, uh, gotten into SCARLETT yet?
[speaker001:] No, it had such a bad press, I wasn't too.
[speaker002:] Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. I was amazed, because I, in the beginning when it was on, you know, on route coming out
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I heard mixed publicity
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] kind of good and bad, and then when it came out, all I heard was just, oh, how bad it was, that I didn't even want to get it.
[speaker001:] Me, either. Do you know anyone that's read it?
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] No, I haven't heard of anybody that's read it, either.
[speaker002:] No.
[speaker001:] I think it was on the best-seller list, though
[speaker002:] Well
[speaker001:] for a while.
[speaker002:] it wouldn't surprise me,