[speaker001:] uh do you want to give a start on it
[speaker002:] well I think for me I I'm from Alabama south Alabama and so I grew up in the midst of civil rights movement
[speaker001:] uh-huh  uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh in a pretty liberal family for for that area at the time
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and so I was very much a part of all the uh you know what was going on there uh
[speaker001:] uh-hum
[speaker002:] my parents are pretty active and uh it was very scary and but now we've seen you know uh black people have a lot more civil rights in that area and I guess all over than they did you know twenty years ago
[speaker001:] oh definitely
[speaker002:] there's still a lot to be you know to be accomplished but
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] for me when I think about social change that's what I first think of because I can remember you know separate public restrooms and separate water fountains and sitting in the back of the bus and everything
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh you can relate to that now see we didn't we don't have any of that because well like we live in the country
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] in Clarion County and uh we really didn't have things like that going on that we you know uh ran into
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so we kind of uh I guess when I think of social changes I think think more of uh  uh visiting habits of families and such uh uh
[speaker002:] yeah well that's true that's a good one right there
[speaker001:] yeah that there's less visiting done I think on a whole than there used to be used to be that you took the family whether the kids wanted to go or not you went visiting and uh today you know people they do visit but it's not quite the same as uh what it was say twenty years ago thirty years ago
[speaker002:] right and I grew up in out in the country too basically in a rural area and with lots of family
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] and so we were always at family in different people family members' homes but even now you know they don't even do that
[speaker001:] right uh-huh uh-huh well they're so spread out I think has a lot to do with it
[speaker002:] well and they're so busy people people's personal schedules are so busy
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] mainly because I a lot of it has to do I think with more women working in our family you know twenty years ago not that many of the women worked and now uh almost all the women work
[speaker001:] right right that's right yeah the majority yeah uh-huh
[speaker002:] and so that means you know a lot of a lot of the social visiting and all was I think probably instigated by women at that time right and now
[speaker001:] probably because when you work you don't really care to go out and visit as much
[speaker002:] that's right and now uh I mean my mother does not work and and she you know she's finds finds herself pretty alone a lot because most of her friends are working women
[speaker001:] and uh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] but even just social visits people don't do that anymore you're right and people don't feel comfortable just to drop in on people anymore
[speaker001:] no huh-uh they don't do as much uh-huh
[speaker002:] there's a real
[speaker001:] you have to make arrangements or have an invitation or
[speaker002:] right you know you don't want to you want to make sure it's okay or I guess we don't not to make invade people's privacy or whatever
[speaker001:] yeah yeah well that could be part of it I don't know for sure what it is I know our children mostly are scattered out at a distance so we really don't have that even we don't yeah
[speaker002:] well out of out of fifteen grandchildren in my family only two of us don't live within fifty miles
[speaker001:] oh really
[speaker002:] and that and most live within ten or or twenty so but that's you know that is rural it's a rural family and
[speaker001:] oh that's pretty good yeah uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] most people didn't go away I'm just one of the two out of fifteen that don't live in the you know even in the same state
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh well apparently there must be work available
[speaker002:] yeah there is in that area
[speaker001:] for those that are uh-huh because around here there's really nothing for the young people no good I mean there's jobs there's minimum wage jobs but uh to make a good living there really around here there just isn't too much
[speaker002:] um-hum and I guess you know that would greatly affect social change I use social change probably the job market has always and the the economy has always affected uh social change
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] probably
[speaker001:] so well there's the main things I can think of I really tried to think of some other things and I couldn't really
[speaker002:] well I think just also you know
[speaker001:] that
[speaker002:] the women's movement too has affected a lot of social change uh people marry
[speaker001:] yeah definitely some good and some bad
[speaker002:] yeah people marry later
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I mean basically I think now again where I'm from in in Alabama that's not necessarily true because people do still get married right out of high school
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] but now out here in Texas where I am now that's very unusual
[speaker001:] they'd rather get their life started first before uh-huh
[speaker002:] most people get married I mean get go to college or at least get a job and even you know people are seem to a lot of people seem to
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] be engaged for a long time before they get married because they do want to be financially set up
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh yeah well even to get school finished I think a lot of times it's better if they do finish their schooling before they settle in because a marriage takes a lot of effort and concentration and if you're busy with school it's I think it's really difficult for a family
[speaker002:] right but probably uh you know more women being in in the work force also greatly greatly affects social change because it affects child care and uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh right right yeah I know my my daughter that lives in Pittsburgh she has two little boys and they they've been in day care since you know one's four and one's one
[speaker002:] but right
[speaker001:] and they've done well now I wouldn't want to do it that way but uh she's quite happy and the children seem quite adjusted and uh
[speaker002:] well and they're you know they're they're saying right now we don't know what we just now are seeing the effects of day care on the generation that's just now coming into the work force and in their twenties
[speaker001:] uh-huh that's right yeah uh-huh yes uh-huh
[speaker002:] they are the first generation that basically grew up with day care and so you know it remained to be seen exactly what that what that does
[speaker001:] that's right yeah uh-huh now I'm going to babysit my granddaughter she's just eight weeks old so this will be new for me
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so uh but the others I'm too far away to help them out at all
[speaker002:] where do they live
[speaker001:] uh well I have a son and daughter that live in Pittsburgh one in Maryland and one in Connecticut a son in Connecticut
[speaker002:] well they're not too far though
[speaker001:] no but like Connecticut takes eight hours to drive home and uh it's too far to you know really go too often
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] Pittsburgh's not quite so bad it's just a couple hours Maryland maybe five hour drive
[speaker002:] well I live like fourteen hours from home in fact I'm
[speaker001:] that's uh-huh that's worse yet
[speaker002:] I'm driving tomorrow I'm I'm driving home tomorrow so to go be there for the Fourth of July
[speaker001:] oh are you really do you uh stay overnight on the way or you
[speaker002:] no I can drive it all it's just me so I can make it I'm thirty five
[speaker001:] you're young how old are you okay well you're young enough yet to
[speaker002:] although it's it's it is pretty I don't know I don't enjoy it that much it's pretty much like get there and
[speaker001:] uh-huh it's work to get there yeah yeah huh
[speaker002:] it's just not that pleasant even with other people I basically just don't like to drive that far
[speaker001:] uh-huh now my son they they flew he rebuilt a Aranca Chief airplane and they flew down last weekend they came down in it and it still took a long time because it's not a fast it's not a high-speed airplane
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but they enjoyed in thoroughly so
[speaker002:] when you say you're in the second phase of this project what is the second phase of it
[speaker001:] I'm not sure but you have to change phones you have to call from another a different
[speaker002:] oh