[speaker001:] so how do we fix the national budget
[speaker002:] okay damned if I know um I don't uh I suspect uh let's see I suspect we should do what everyone says we should do we should cut spending and maybe even raise taxes but Lord knows you shouldn't one shouldn't say that
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] I I I suspect we should probably have an independent auditing agency go in and look at how the government spends money and work from there
[speaker001:] that would probably be good
[speaker002:] because I because I don't think they're very good at it
[speaker001:] but something that the government hasn't been looking at is the source of the problem
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] the true source of the problem is A that we do spend too much
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] but also B that we don't take in enough
[speaker002:] yeah well why why why why do you say that actually
[speaker001:] uh too few Americans are working
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] if more Americans were working and meaningful good paying labor
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] and paying taxes
[speaker002:] rather than using taxed
[speaker001:] and the tax structure was fair between the lowest and the highest income Americans then we would have more money there to play with
[speaker002:] oh that's interesting yeah that's probably true I mean well we also we'd be spending less because all the money that that normally goes to support those people aren't working it's back in the system
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] so you're right that's a real neat idea well what but I mean what can you know at at some point what can you do to sort of raise revenue I mean to raise jobs I wonder
[speaker001:] well I hesitate to say we ought to spend ourselves to affluence but in fact in some cases that's what we ought to do
[speaker002:] oh okay so start when
[speaker001:] not Reaganomics thank you
[speaker002:] but that is not gonna work uh
[speaker001:] uh what I was thinking more along the lines of is start going to space
[speaker002:] hum and that way just create more jobs
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] or whatever
[speaker001:] at some point there there will be enough jobs for most of the able able-bodied Americans
[speaker002:] hum um-hum well that's a neat idea
[speaker001:] we also need to uh assure that there's some work in the private sector
[speaker002:] yeah that's what that's what you you think space would do that much for that or
[speaker001:] I think it would do something for it I think we would fill up new technologies but I think we should also
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] do something rather radical
[speaker002:] like what
[speaker001:] legalize marijuana
[speaker002:] oh you think you think that would uh have a major effect well that would put a lot of criminals out of business for a while anyway
[speaker001:] what
[speaker002:] that that might have a um a good effect on on on crime anyway
[speaker001:] yes uh okay I think it would take some of that money out of the hands of criminals I think it would put reduce the amount of carry on drug use where people advance from one drug to another
[speaker002:] that's probably true
[speaker001:] I think that I think most importantly it would give the federal government something new that they could tax
[speaker002:] and probably a lot of
[speaker001:] and probably a lot of and really receive some revenues from
[speaker002:] yeah but that's potentially you know
[speaker001:] uh if you look at prohibition historically it's repeal helped the federal government a lot in tax revenues
[speaker002:] um-hum um no I'd never thought about that
[speaker001:] then I think once we put money back into the coffers in the coffers of the federal government
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and get the federal government to where there's money there again we should reduce the amount of money and this would have to come rather quickly and would have to come come originally also where we're not paying in some cases we do pay more for welfare recipients to live then they can earn in the true minimum wage environment
[speaker002:] that's true we do often times they are paid more yeah
[speaker001:] and you can't deny people the right to supply their families better through whatever means
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that's just sensible on their part
[speaker002:] that's just what on their part I'm sorry I missed that
[speaker001:] it's just sensible on their parts to go after the
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] the the greater amount of income
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] so if you lower the amount they make and raise the amount of true minimum wage jobs not those that are affected by the federal minimum wage then more people will get off welfare
[speaker002:] that that maybe true that's very true
[speaker001:] you know give them a true incentive to want to work
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and then don't start letting more outsiders in for a few years until we figure exactly where we're at with unemployment
[speaker002:] right that's uh
[speaker001:] reduce immigration
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] or eliminate it entirely for a few years unti l we get our own house in order
[speaker002:] yeah and maybe even reduce along along the same lines maybe reduce imports as well I think
[speaker001:] oh absolutely absolutely
[speaker002:] I mean we don't need to buy other people's stuff right now
[speaker001:] that's right when we're in a wor ld of hurt well I don't I'm not going to say that we ought to reduce reduce them through legal means I think we ought to just tax them severely
[speaker002:] right well that that's what happened in other country though and other places they tax us quite heavily I mean they tax American imports quite heavily so we could do the same thing I mean just and you know they may get
[speaker001:] it seems only fair
[speaker002:] right it does seem only fair I mean why not
[speaker001:] and I think really if we got all those that are able-bodied into the work force reduced the amount going out for those purposes created new jobs for that work force there would be plenty of money
[speaker002:] I I think so
[speaker001:] and then at that point
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] quit spending on space force it all into the into the private sector
[speaker002:] oh really oh really I love the switch well at that point you might we it it it wouldn't be a problem anymore possibly you know we would be
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] we would be able to keep it wherever we wanted to in space or the ocean research whatever we wanted to do but I think that would be
[speaker001:] uh uh space was just a convenient place for me to go because
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that would put a lot of a lot of Millspec and NASA work operates to the same demanding specifications that would put a bunch of defense workers back to work
[speaker002:] um-hum right is compared to defense well that's a good idea well I well the other thing and the other thing I I I think we seriously need to do is um like I say have someone go in and look and you know and find out where it is we're paying ten thousand dollars per toilet seat or something
[speaker001:] you know what causes that
[speaker002:] greed I suspect
[speaker001:] uh no your your your buying large trunk uh the government specification
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] sheets of paper for building a pair of BVD underwear for the federal government
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] is twenty two foot tall
[speaker002:] really
[speaker001:] if it was all on nine by elevens stacked one on top of another
[speaker002:] for making the government issue under wear
[speaker001:] for making government issue underwear
[speaker002:] Jesus
[speaker001:] to just understand those legal requirements and operate within the government guidelines costs the company
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] a huge amount of money
[speaker002:] well its potentially a fault of the government than I mean that could be thing like that should be I mean
[speaker001:] yes a huge amount of it is not the fault of the contractor
[speaker002:] right well that's a I had never heard that before
[speaker001:] uh a huge amount of what you hear on about the seventy five dollar hammers
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and the nine hundred dollar toilet seats doesn't come from people in the industry it comes from senators that don't know anything about it
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] uh my job is government tooling specialist
[speaker002:] oh okay so you know about some of these things yeah