[speaker001:] any vacations recently that you would highly recommend
[speaker002:] well that is like my favorite hobby so yeah I travel everywhere and I've been all over Europe and
[speaker001:] oh really
[speaker002:] a lot of the United States and Hawaii and
[speaker001:] oh wow wow
[speaker002:] so when I can that's what I do
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh what what has been your favorite trip do you think
[speaker002:] well I'm not sure um I guess Hawaii is one of my favorite places
[speaker001:] really better than Europe
[speaker002:] yeah well no that's exciting you know I've been several times so after the first time it's like anywhere you know it loses that newness but
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] yeah I love it I love to go over to Europe I do and mostly I've traveled through Germany and Switzerland and
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] we have good friends in England so I've been there quite a bit and I just love it all I love to look at the different people and the different cultures and to see how different things are from the way we do them
[speaker001:] um-hum sure um-hum
[speaker002:] the most interesting part more than the museums and things like that
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] so how about you
[speaker001:] yeah well uh I have never been I've been to Canada several times but uh that is about it for me I'm I'm from a Denver and so uh growing up uh we would spend most of our vacations right there in Colorado
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh my family is uh uh real into camping and four wheeling and so um several I I think maybe uh four summers in a row uh we spent uh our vacation time in the summer uh four wheeling through uh portions of uh the southern half of of Colorado uh and and uh every time uh my mother had uh uh I have two other sisters and my mother had us uh do some studying of the the area which we were going to visit and then we had to write uh
[speaker002:] oh no
[speaker001:] uh reports reports about it during during our vacation which which was really fun it was really fun we we we each got to write little books uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh it it had sparked an interest that uh uh of of mine that uh my fiancee is a is a um very very good photographer that's what she had originally gone to school to do was photography and uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I I'm close to receiving my English degree uh as as well as my my graduate degree so so I uh uh we've thought very seriously of trying to to uh incorporate travel into writing and and writing a book about uh uh some portion of travel uh so we're hoping soon uh not soon maybe within the next ten years to get to take a trip over from uh over over to Europe and take a trip from the northern portion of France
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh down to the southern tip of Spain uh and follow uh it there's kind of a backward S shape uh trail that the pilgrims use to take uh in in uh back in the medieval times uh to see the relics uh in in Southern Spain and in Italy
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and so we would like to take pictures of the Gothic uh and Romanesque uh monasteries and uh just take that journey all the way down and then right a book about it
[speaker002:] boy that would be quite a project
[speaker001:] yeah it would be it's it's our big dream
[speaker002:] yeah well it would be a lot fun you know there's there's good and there's bad and my experience in Italy wasn't my favorite for sure but
[speaker001:] oh sure really
[speaker002:] well I flew into Milan my daughter is uh a twirling champion
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and she had to perform over there and in Turin and so we had to fly into Milan and we got on the subway after so much trouble because the Italians even if they speak English they don't wanna let you know
[speaker001:] oh sure
[speaker002:] and they gave us all the wrong directions and there were just two of us at the airport they put us on the wrong bus but finally we saw a policeman he put us on the subway we sat there um
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh
[speaker002:] we didn't know Italian we looked at each other we said things like spaghetti you know things like that and we finally followed some kids he told us where to get off we followed these kids with uh gym bags and we figured that must be the sports arena
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and we lucked out and then when we needed to go to the bathroom there was nothing but a whole in the ground I mean it was just it was kind of a nightmare but that was our experience and I guess all of Italy isn't like that
[speaker001:] wow uh-huh right
[speaker002:] but where we were it certainly was and the hotel that we stayed in we stayed with our English friends their team in the hotel and it was beautiful it was very modern
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but it was very far away on a bus so you know it was it was really uh it was interesting you always learn something
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and you will always have a fun experience so it it's great you know
[speaker001:] yeah you said you've been to England several times
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I wonder have you ever been to a uh a small town uh well it's it's actually about uh thirty minutes from Salisbury it's called uh Bemerton
[speaker002:] no I haven't huh-uh our friends live like an hour outside of England like Ash around there so um-hum
[speaker001:] okay oh okay all right yeah I I I the reason I'm curious um I uh that's the other place I would like to visit uh most