[speaker001:] well um
[speaker002:] do you ever watch Wall Street Week
[speaker001:] no I don't watch that one um I get a lot of my news from uh odd sources if it isn't uh public radio or the local listener supported station I get a lot of it off of the uh the nets Usenet BBS networks and uh monthly and weekly magazines and newsletters
[speaker002:] what kind of magazines
[speaker001:] you ever heard of a magazine called Mondo 2000
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] fairly obscure it's published out of Berkeley it's a futurist magazine apparently I heard about it later the guy started it as a on inheritance money he just wanted to have a magazine of his own and he wanted to be future oriented so it's really fringe science um new chemicals brain enhancement technologies virtual reality all that stuff that we're just starting to hear about this whole magazine covers it and then from that I can follow up on other sources and a lot of the stuff in there turns up on bulletin boards as people talk about it
[speaker002:] well I mean do you think that magazine is credible or
[speaker001:] uh depends on what it's about and who's writing a lot of this stuff is just reporting somebody may be developing some new technology and they'll be talking about the plans for the use of it it's not the kind of thing that would be really talent you know it's not something that's questionable like political opinions it's sort of a state of technology and what are we going to do with this and what do you suppose would happen if the government got ahold of it and you know that kind of thing
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] and then uh you know the the the best source of news the comic strips not really
[speaker002:] wait so so you're you're a a firm follower of Doonesbury or
[speaker001:] oh yeah absolutely and Bloom County now Out Land and all the rest of them but yeah Doonesbury is great I mean sometimes he that doesn't even try to be funny he just puts stuff in that strip that we're not going to see anywhere else and uh uh like when he was quoting an entire week from Bush's speeches and the guy was completely incoherent I think that's when it finally they had to issue a press release that Bush was under the effect of this weird drug that uh has been banned in some European countries and that it was affecting his speech
[speaker002:] of uh
[speaker001:] yeah that's the one
[speaker002:] oh but um anyway well um
[speaker001:] go back to
[speaker002:] so you well do you ever watch any network news or anything like that at at
[speaker001:] 60 Minutes 60 Minutes I always watch 60 Minutes
[speaker002:] yeah I watch 60 Minutes and I watch 2020 sometimes
[speaker001:] yeah I used to watch them but then I caught them in a bald face lie and I had didn't really care anymore
[speaker002:] what lie did you catch them in
[speaker001:] it was a long time ago they just did a hatchet job on ultra light aircraft and I used to fly one so I knew what I was talking about and they really I mean it was a classic case of what the conservatives accuse the liberal press of doing you know they fabricating uh making making one picking an item out of context and blowing it up I mean it was just such a classic
[speaker002:] oh really 2020 did that
[speaker001:] yeah they did that it who damn themselves
[speaker002:] oh that's so that's so funny because um Friday night on 2020 they had Jane Polly talking about how she had been exploited by the tabloids and what a travesty it was that the press would fabricate stories
[speaker001:] yeah really and then there they are doing it too so you just have to watch you know you have to assume that with every story you're watching or everything you're reading what what special interest could they possibly have that they would make them slanted this particular way
[speaker002:] so um-hum
[speaker001:] if you assume they're biased and then look for some opposite biases you get a fairly good idea of what's going on
[speaker002:] I know and it's like especially like if with the network news they always comment about everything and their comments are always biased
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know just like all the presidential um campaign things that have been going on
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] if you can just you get a different slant if you just listen to the comments and a lot of times they don't even show you all of what happened
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] sound bytes all they'd rather do is give you a little sound bytes they do it's it's so funny they talk about the liberal press but most most every well virtually every TV station and almost every newspaper in the country is owned by conservative well off white businessmen and they have to be conservative because they have this multimillion dollar investment to protect and they're beholding to their advertisers they have to be conservative but the writers a reporter I mean if you're going to be in the business of reporting if you're a journalist uh you get cynical and uh cynicism can sometimes be confused with liberalism