[speaker002:] do you listen to TV mostly or radio or newspaper
[speaker001:] well for myself it's the printed media um only on occasion do I I watch the television for any news because by that time it's so glossed over it's not even funny
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] um the radio I've yet to find
[speaker002:] but it's also little sound bites on TV they don't really tell you much
[speaker001:] so true so true
[speaker002:] except except for giving you sports and weather and telling you the story is going to be coming just after this commercial
[speaker001:] yeah that's right you know details at eleven while the earth is cracking in half
[speaker002:] yes yes
[speaker001:] you know um but myself I go for the printed media and well one one new show which I do watch on occasion is McNeal Lehrer on public television
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and that's because they can take the time to get into the new story and they don't go for the hype and all that stuff it appears to me that the news media for the most part is uh doing its darndest to appeal to the lowest common denominator and
[speaker002:] um-hum have you ever picked up a copy of uh USA Today
[speaker001:] oh buddy
[speaker002:] news McNuggets
[speaker001:] oh yeah there you go  so true so true
[speaker002:] no personally I listen to radio mostly hit the NPR in the morning and in the evening coming home
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I always liked all things considered
[speaker002:] yeah All All Things Considered and uh morning edition
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and it's like you know just have that on in the morning while I'm going through the normal routine or driving home at night
[speaker001:] yeah yeah same story here I uh happened to cross that that beauty of a of a station when uh I was with a new car and all I had was an AM radio and I cursed the time for a while and then I found that and I didn't want to go back to FM
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] yeah but uh
[speaker002:] well out here we get it uh both AM and FM
[speaker001:] oh you lucky dogs we get it out of the
[speaker002:] though though the FM cuts off at eight A M and then you have to switch over to AM if you want to continue listening to the news
[speaker001:] oh well you get it one way you get it another
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] yeah but myself well like for example with this you know the democratic race we got going here the different candidates we got all this other stuff all I'm seeing are a couple of yahoos and uh no issues so to speak
[speaker002:] oh yeah yeah definitely definitely haven't been any issues and ninety percent of the stories you hear
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] even you know you know I I we got the AP news wire at work which is also a very good source of news
[speaker001:] ah
[speaker002:] and most of the stories there are how well each candidate did in which place and where they and you know what's the latest scandal but nothing about what they stand for and
[speaker001:] yeah oh yeah I mean heard more I heard more about Jennifer Flowers than I heard I have heard Bill Clinton's uh platform on health care
[speaker002:] issues or yeah
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and George Bush forget it
[speaker001:] oh yeah thank you
[speaker002:] he doesn't have a platform
[speaker001:] yeah that's right well as I always like to say back when he was talking about a thousand points of light that's a nice way of saying our platform is full of holes
[speaker002:] no no that's a thousand pointless lies
[speaker001:] hey there you go I'll make that into a tag line in my system all right oh goodness but I don't know for the most part I see the media for the most part pandering like I said to the lowest common denominator because when it gets down to the nitty-gritty and the brass tacks it gets real unpopular
[speaker002:] well it it
[speaker001:] and it looses advertisers and it looses starts hurting in the budget so it has to cater somewhere
[speaker002:] yeah yeah news news is entertainment
[speaker001:] yeah infotainment
[speaker002:] no not even infotainment entertainment
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I mean the largest segments are sports and weather
[speaker001:] yeah that's true
[speaker002:] and there's there's not really that much of what's going on and the only stories that really get talked about are the ones that have good video clips to go with them
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah and it's been a long time since I've seen any you know source of the media do anything gutsy we had a situation here in Des Moines when um it was right after Jeffrey Dahlmer had been apprehended
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] that um the animal rights groups ran an ad which excepted which depicted the of animals very much akin to the uh victims of Jeffrey Dahlmer
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] well the register ran it which I think was the right role and privilege and I would be packing pulled out a quarter of a million in advertising
[speaker002:] yes um-hum
[speaker001:] you know socked it right to them and that's I guess uh something that distresses me when they have to cater to all these different special interest groups we're not going to get the news
[speaker002:] well that's one nice nice thing about the public radio and public television is for the most part they're some what distanced from that but
[speaker001:] yeah well
[speaker002:] unfortunately not completely these days since that's where a lot of their funding is coming from is corporate underwriting
[speaker001:] yeah and that's unfortunate
[speaker002:] but they at least make the effort to be distance themselves from that
[speaker001:] yeah they they've got to work harder because right now when you challenge funding for public radio or public television you're no longer being typecast as trying to kill big bird
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know they're uh I