[speaker001:] Okay, so which, uh, what basketball teams are you interested in?
[speaker002:] Well, I guess I'm a big Laker, L A Laker fan,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] when it comes to pros. Uh, the college ranks, um, I guess I really, of course I try to follow my alma mater, that's, uh, B Y U,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh
[speaker002:] in Utah. But they don't have much of a team usually.
[speaker001:] No, they're more of a football team than they are basketball team.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah. You see them in football on T V once in awhile.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] You never see them on a, on nationally basketball.
[speaker001:] You know, that's true. I don't think I've ever seen them nationally on basketball.
[speaker002:] They, uh, last year they had a really good team, the year that Danny Aines was there.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] That was about five, six years ago by now.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] So, they made it to the [NOISE] sweet sixteen,
[speaker001:] Um.
[speaker002:] once or twice,
[speaker001:] That's not too bad.
[speaker002:] in their history, and that's, and they usually lose in the first round.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] How about you?
[speaker001:] Well, I'm, uh, originally from the Saint Louis area, so the only basketball team, pro anyway, in that part of the country is Chicago. So, I, I do pull for Chicago.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I mean, of course, this year is a good year to be a, a Chicago B-, fan, I guess, because they're doing pretty good.
[speaker002:] Is it the Bulls you're talking about?
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker002:] Yeah, the pro,
[speaker001:] Um, as far as college teams, uh, I know it's really easy to say, but I've been pulling for, uh, Duke for about four years now so, uh,
[speaker002:] Is that right?
[speaker001:] so, I finally am feeling better about [LAUGHTER] myself as far as college teams. Although, I've, I've really, you know, again being from Saint Louis, I pull for Missouri.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Uh, but they're on, uh, probation this year so you can't do much about that.
[speaker002:] No, no.
[speaker001:] But, uh,
[speaker002:] So, did you watch the, uh, final four this year?
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah. I watched every, uh,
[speaker002:] Every game?
[speaker001:] I watched all three games of that. And, uh, I was very pleased with all three games, because Kansas, uh, you know, I was pulling for Kansas on the other side, so it was real nice to have the, the teams that were there.
[speaker002:] Right, right.
[speaker001:] Of course, I wasn't really, I mean, I, I, U N L V kind of gave me the impression of being a, uh, uh, oh, I don't know, a macho team, you know, they just didn't seem, they seemed to think they were better than everybody else and, and maybe they were, but, um, I was real happy to see them get knocked off. So,
[speaker002:] Yeah. I, I watched that game.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and, uh, it was a good game.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] It was a very close game, and hard fought game. And it just, I don't know, it looked like U N L V may have had more, uh, talent,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] but, as far as playing together as a team that day, it didn't, Duke seemed to have them off balance.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And that, uh, they didn't, couldn't, aren't they more of a running gun team?
[speaker001:] U N L V, yeah, they, they play the pro style, is,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] what I've always called it. And, uh,
[speaker002:] Yeah, fast breaks and things and,
[speaker001:] yeah, the fast breaks and, and,
[speaker002:] They shut all that down and made them play half court it seemed and,
[speaker001:] Right. And, uh, U N L V wasn't used to that. Of course, I've, I knew whenever U N L V went in at half time, see I don't know if they were necessarily behind, but they weren't ahead as much as they normally are.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] Uh, and, you know, that meant that they had to play a second half and they, they've not had to do that all year and, uh,
[speaker002:] [Noise] Right, right. They didn't have, they didn't have to go through some tough games during the year and that, and that, so that's a terrible time to have to deal with that, right in, when it, when it counts so much.
[speaker001:] That's right. I mean Duke's schedule was, was so much harder than U N L V's that it, uh, it just made them a much tougher team overall,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] and, uh, that had to help them a lot.
[speaker002:] I think, I think that, that probably was the difference in that game.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Because it really could have gone an-, either way. Down to the end, you know.
[speaker001:] So do I take it that you think though that the Lakers will, uh,
[speaker002:] Well,
[speaker001:] will win or,
[speaker002:] [Noise] [pause] I don't know. Probably not.
[speaker001:] I mean, Portland's pretty good. Um,
[speaker002:] Since Kareem's retired,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] they haven't had a center. And, uh, they've got Perkins,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] but I don't think he's really been a super star for them.
[speaker001:] No. Well, he's, uh, I don't, I, he, he to me is not a center, he's more of a,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] a real tall forward [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Right, right.
[speaker001:] Uh,
[speaker002:] So,
[speaker001:] I think Magic does a,
[speaker002:] They'll make it, you know, i-, i-, it, it's going to be a war between, uh, between Chicago and, uh, and, uh, uh, Boston Celtics.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] That's going to be a war.
[speaker001:] That sure is. It,
[speaker002:] It's going to be a great series.
[speaker001:] I think that's going to be one of those that's, uh, that's won by the home team, you know,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] whoever has home court advantage is going to win that one I think.
[speaker002:] One of those two will probably be, um, in there, um, let me see, where does Detroit fit in?
[speaker001:] Detroit's in that same, uh, that, that same, uh, division.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. So, I don't know, those three, uh, Detroit hasn't been having that great a year this year.
[speaker001:] No, but as I heard, Isaiah came back this week.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] So, uh, that might help them.
[speaker002:] Yeah. They have the, they have the play-off experience, but,
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] so does Detroit, I mean, so does Chicago. So do-, all three of them do,
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] with Larry Bird back, uh, you can never count the Celtics out when Larry Bird's,
[speaker001:] That's true.
[speaker002:] starting to click on all cylinders.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] They say he's starting to do, starting to play,
[speaker001:] He's, yeah but he's been, yeah, but he's been kind of up and down all year.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] uh, one game and he'll be playing to where everything he throws up goes in and then the next time he'll,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] you know, he can't seem to hit the side of a barn. So, I don't know,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] I'm, I'm kind of, I'm not sure about him this year.
[speaker002:] Last I've heard is that he's starting to peak right now.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Well that's when,
[speaker002:] He's,
[speaker001:] you do it.
[speaker002:] starting to be more consistent, you know, right at the right time of the year.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Oh, any dark horses I, uh, you know,
[speaker001:] Well, the dark horses,
[speaker002:] San Antonio,
[speaker001:] Yeah that's,
[speaker002:] San Antonio is the dark horse that could, could really flip in there, I think.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well, anybody who has David Robinson,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] has got to have a chance anyway.
[speaker002:] He's got to be pretty much, you know, I use to say Akimo Lija was the dominant player, you know, when he,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] against any team he would dominate, but Robinson's getting up there where,
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] every game, he's just, I mean, it looks like he's going in for a dunk and they kind of just scoot out of his way or take a step back, you know,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] nobody's got enough beef, I guess, to challenge him when he's, when he's driving hard to the hoop.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] He's, uh, he's, too bad the Mavericks couldn't get him.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] That's true.
[speaker002:] With Roy Tarpley they're in big trouble.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well then, he's gone now so,
[speaker002:] Yeah, for awhile anyway.
[speaker001:] they don't have to worry about that. Well, I thought he was gone period. I, I didn't read the story, but I, I, read that, uh,
[speaker002:] I heard he was suspended.
[speaker001:] Well, that might have been what it was,
[speaker002:] Because of his,
[speaker001:] but I, I guess the headlines said something about him, you know, that the Mavericks released him or something, I, maybe I misunderstood what they meant.
[speaker002:] Um. If they did, they'd still have to pay his contract [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Well, yeah
[speaker002:] They may have done it.
[speaker001:] you never know.
[speaker002:] It was a lot of money. He was making like,
[speaker001:] Yeah but,
[speaker002:] I heard on the radio it was sixty-three thousand and change a month. That's what he was being paid, you know, he wasn't even playing.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Oh, boy, what a good job he had [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] That's what I think.
[speaker002:] He ruined his sweet position [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah. I'm looking forward to the, the pro play-off, uh,
[speaker001:] Yeah. It's coming up, isn't it.
[speaker002:] L A, yeah, San Antonio, who's the other one that's doing so well this year, Port-, is that Portland?
[speaker001:] Portland. Yeah, Portland.
[speaker002:] Portland. I haven't seen them on much T V that much at all, but all I can do is hear about, boy they have the seeing eye.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] What do they have Walter Davis and,
[speaker001:] They've got two, the two Johnson brothers or they're not brothers, but I mean there's two guys named Johnson on their team that are really good or doing good or something, I forget how that works. But,
[speaker002:] Um.
[speaker001:] um, like I said they're doing extremely good right now. Phoenix isn't doing too bad. So,
[speaker002:] Right. Right.
[speaker001:] It, it ought to be a real interesting play-off.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I don't think there's any clear pick, you know.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I guess the two teams that you can't count out are the Celtics because of Bird, and the Lakers because of Magic Johnson.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] They are two guys that seem to find a way when they,
[speaker001:] When it's on the line.
[speaker002:] When it's on the line, they seem to find a way.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] You know, uh, so, those are what makes a champion I guess.
[speaker001:] Yeah, that's true.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Well, it's been nice talking to you.
[speaker002:] Nice talking to you.
[speaker001:] All right. Take care.
[speaker002:] Take care. Bye.