[speaker001:] let's see mine's pretty easy actually uh I just got done reading a a magazine or a couple magazine articles about the uh new Saturns
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] um and although I can't afford it right now I would just like love to have one
[speaker002:] oh really you like uh so you're an American you want to buy American
[speaker001:] well no regardless of that fact it's the best car in the class for the best cheapest amount of money I'm interested in having it for uh doing a little auto cross racing uh closed circuit racing and uh it seems to just blow the competition competition competition away
[speaker002:] um in terms of handling uh acceleration
[speaker001:] handling power everything yeah it just got like the top rating it was compared up against uh let's see there was like the Mazda M X three uh Nissan's whatever their two N X two thousand the Civic S I and it just you know it it dominated over all of them everybody all the uh raters loved it I like the I like the styling and I seen a few of them actually race and they seem to be really good cars for it
[speaker002:] what about Mustang GTs
[speaker001:] Mustang GTs uh can't afford it
[speaker002:] those so you're talking about ones in a lower lower end price price range
[speaker001:] right yeah I'm a graduate student let's face it I don't make any money so
[speaker002:] right well you can wait till you graduate and you'll have plenty of money you can buy whatever you want
[speaker001:] yeah yeah we'll see then yeah right now I'm stuck I I've got a a Pontiac Sunbird Turbo that it's fast but unreliable and trying to get it prepared for racing but it's it would be nice just like scrap it and go for the go Saturn
[speaker002:] right would you use that for city driving and racing
[speaker001:] oh yeah I'd do it I'd use it for both the nice thing about auto crossing is you can you can do both
[speaker002:] auto crossing is what kind of track is that
[speaker001:] uh just like a um um set up a lot of times and it's like really large uh parking lots
[speaker002:] okay and you put up set up the track pylons okay
[speaker001:] and pylons and things tight turns hard acceleration I've seen a lot of Mustangs uh compete and it's interesting they get dominated by the Corvettes that are also in their class
[speaker002:] oh really yeah I would guess so
[speaker001:] yeah uh what are you thinking about buying
[speaker002:] uh I think I'd like to get uh BMW or if I go the German route which I'm kind of leaning towards right now but uh or maybe a Honda I mean a a Acura Legend
[speaker001:] the Legend
[speaker002:] uh a Lexus
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] uh S C three hundred maybe
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] something on that order I haven't really determined if I like the the Japanese or the if I like them enough to purchase one
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know because your BMWs your German cars have good reputations I think
[speaker001:] yeah well I was I was actually in uh a lot of the BMW's are produced in uh uh Stuttgart and uh and Munich and I was I was there this uh summer
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] I I was really impressed by the uh the uh factory uh tours and such for BMW
[speaker002:] the yeah they their they have the whole philosophy I mean they they kind of even brainwash themselves into thinking they're better which is kind of hard to take
[speaker001:] yeah uh
[speaker002:] I mean as you're walking through that little tour in uh Munich it's kind of they're trying to brainwash you too
[speaker001:] oh of course of course they are they want you to buy their car yeah there it was it was interesting I was at I I also went to uh the Porsche and uh it was it was amazing how they were completely opposed
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] yeah the uh yeah the uh the BMW is really oh like oh we have all these like high tech things and everything is put together with exacting tolerances and and then you go to Porsche and it's like well uh these cars are completely handmade and no two of them are alike
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] yeah that's and so it's like completely opposed I don't know which do I like better I think I like the Porsche's philosophy a little bit better although it's not really practical
[speaker002:] no it's not realistic
[speaker001:] unless it's it's a toy
[speaker002:] yeah if you can afford that kind of a toy then I guess so
[speaker001:] let's face it yeah yeah but it it BMW's good for that what kind of driving just like commuting you'd want to do it use it for
[speaker002:] yeah just work short trips no mileage no heavy mileage I'm putting on less than fifteen thousand miles a year
[speaker001:] wow yeah
[speaker002:] so it's pretty minimal
[speaker001:] that's cool
[speaker002:] lasts a long time that's mainly what I'm looking for
[speaker001:] yeah that's good I also I was impressed by uh by the Mercedes too
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] I really I really like the Mercedes the factory was nice and
[speaker002:] but but if if you have a problem with a Mercedes you take it into a shop they're going to they're going to hit you up for just all kinds of things
[speaker001:] and is it different for the for the BMW
[speaker002:] uh I think well something on the order of a three series it's probably different once you get up in the five series and higher then
[speaker001:] probably
[speaker002:] all your repair costs go up significantly
[speaker001:] right I can imagine that
[speaker002:] so I'm kind yeah I'm not sure if I really want