[speaker001:] uh what are the capital punishment laws in your state
[speaker002:] uh they're
[speaker001:] or do you have it
[speaker002:] uh they're they're the death penalty can be imposed
[speaker001:] yeah uh or is it set for a specific crimes uh you know if you're convicted of this then it's the death penalty or or is it kind of just to the discretion under certain cases
[speaker002:] uh it's uh murder it it can be is I think is the only can be tried for you know for uh capital punishment
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and I firmly believe in it
[speaker001:] yes uh I I'm the same way I feel that capital punishment ought to be mandatory under certain crimes
[speaker002:] I do too here in Utah there's been a a person that's been on death row for I oh seventeen years I think and they just keep retrying and retrying and I just it's just a waste of taxpayers' money and and I really think it would be a deterrent
[speaker001:] sounds like he'd grow old and die long before they get to kill him
[speaker002:] yes yes but uh
[speaker001:] seventeen years on death row
[speaker002:] um-hum uh I think he's that he's the longest one in the nation that and they just keep retrying him and retrying him
[speaker001:] well uh since they reinstated the death penalty was it about seven or eight years ago I think the shortest anybody's waited has been two or three years I mean death penalty does not seem to be swift for anybody
[speaker002:] no is what's the death penalty in Mississippi
[speaker001:] I so that's my understanding they do not have death penalty here right now um
[speaker002:] I mean the capital
[speaker001:] it doesn't make any sense that they don't but they don't um and right now to the best of my understanding there is nothing afoot to get it reinstated uh personally I think there should be death penalty for uh the death penalty should be available almost any major violent crime and mandatory for murder
[speaker002:] I I agree with you they believe
[speaker001:] it should be at least available as punishment for rape
[speaker002:] yes definitely
[speaker001:] I think if it was a serious possible of being executed for doing any of the major crimes that it would be a little less likely for people to commit them
[speaker002:] well one thing I can't understand is is these people that uh uh torture torture children and then murder I mean you know and then they're they eventually kill them
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] and I definitely think that that should be a death penalty and they get less than than people that have are murdered
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I don't understand that I I just can't see how come a person that has kills a little child can get away with two or three years or five years five to fifteen
[speaker001:] yeah and it
[speaker002:] because
[speaker001:] I don't know I if I think also they should be they uh somebody providing drugs to someone that kills the person
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] that ought to be considered murder and potential death penalty
[speaker002:] boy we think alike
[speaker001:] I uh they used to have the death penalty in my home state of West Virginia
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] and there it was death by hanging
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh
[speaker001:] uh but
[speaker002:] how old are you may I ask
[speaker001:] thirty four
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] and it when they eliminated death penalty all kinds of things changed
[speaker002:] yes they do
[speaker001:] uh the rate of crime doubled within about about a year or so
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and at that point when they were still hanging the uh state prison in Mountsville uh had a very small guard force and they had very little problems with their their inmates
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh after they eliminated the death penalty shut down the gallows
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] uh the place has gotten to the point where people who live in that area are all trying to get moved away it's become a maximum security prison they have had a whole lot more problems with breakouts with uh with violence within the the prison
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh uh just the whole whole tenor of the thing has changed completely
[speaker002:] I wonder why I wonder why they don't uh don't uh see that they need the death penalty then because haven't you heard that they say that the death penalty does not uh deter crime
[speaker001:] who is it who said the death penalty doesn't deter crime well I'm sure it doesn't much now because the death penalty is very seldom uh given and
[speaker002:] used
[speaker001:] even then like you say it could be twenty twenty years between the time