[speaker001:] uh so you have children I take it
[speaker002:] no I don't
[speaker001:] you don't
[speaker002:] no huh-uh
[speaker001:] so it's not a very valid topic
[speaker002:] no it's not do you have children
[speaker001:] uh yes
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] one
[speaker002:] one
[speaker001:] stepdaughter
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] ten
[speaker002:] ten
[speaker001:] and uh you know how they are at that age I guess you having been ten once
[speaker002:] yeah once upon a time I was well I have two dogs those are my kids
[speaker001:] yourself oh we have one
[speaker002:] what kind is it
[speaker001:] uh Keeshonden
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] yeah fuzzy little thing
[speaker002:] uh-huh a what
[speaker001:] a fuzzy little dog
[speaker002:] yeah yeah they're cute
[speaker001:] rather rather odd personality he he he's fun
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] anyway uh time we spend with our children
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] it seems almost as though children hate it
[speaker002:] do they
[speaker001:] yes time spent with mom and dad is uh next is that's probably one of the worst punishments on earth to them
[speaker002:] yeah especially when they get like into the teenage stage
[speaker001:] and yeah
[speaker002:] I guess
[speaker001:] I
[speaker002:] yeah I remember when I was that age
[speaker001:] they you know parents are a curse that they just have to live with
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so it it's interesting
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] we do spend time driving in the mountains
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh how nice I would love to live up there
[speaker001:] no do you work for TI
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] you're working then
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] with every passing day we wonder if we will be
[speaker002:] that's what I heard I've always thought about maybe transferring up there and I thought if I do that I might not have a job so
[speaker001:] it's it's better to to be employed
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] especially these days where there is not a job right around the corner
[speaker002:] um-hum  I know it
[speaker001:] and that creates family tensions
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I'm sure it does so you only have the you only have the stepdaughter at home you all don't have any other children around there
[speaker001:] yes no no I don't have any any children
[speaker002:] uh-huh so how does she feel about going out and doing stuff with you all
[speaker001:] uh well it varies what it is of course but usually mom and dad are a curse
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] you know they they'd much rather be with friends friends are cool parents aren't
[speaker002:] oh yeah no huh-uh
[speaker001:] but I remember  well I'm sure part of it is a male female thing you know I I remember whenever I was growing up
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] often times spent with my Dad was oh just wonderful you know go
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] go hunting or go to the races or
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] or oh any number of things
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and we'd have um great times
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] and it seems that well now the bank's not available
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and entirely too much time is spent my wife and I were wondering what if
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and and what if's always rough
[speaker002:] oh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] but you know we do have our trips and we do have our fun and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I don't know little girls aren't interested in lot of the same things little boys are or were
[speaker002:] like fishing and
[speaker001:] hunting and and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] looking for arrowheads and
[speaker002:] my husband'll say that he'd like to have a little boy to take hunting and fishing and I'd say well you can take a little girl hunting and fishing just as easily
[speaker001:] uh but they don't like it
[speaker002:] that's probably right
[speaker001:] there there there is a difference there
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and the and
[speaker002:] yeah well if my dad had done that when I was a kid I probably wouldn't have liked it I go now with my husband and I enjoy it but
[speaker001:] well girls at that age
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] video games boys and malls
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] not necessarily in that order and friends of course
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and that's a little tough for fathers
[speaker002:] um-hum I imagine
[speaker001:] fathers don't even like malls they despise shopping
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] so is that quality time
[speaker002:] huh no I think not
[speaker001:] yeah if but there is camping and we both enjoy that
[speaker002:] uh-huh she likes to do that
[speaker001:] somewhat yeah yeah
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well that's good
[speaker001:] getting up in the mountains and getting away from it all and
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] that's somewhat fun
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] it's
[speaker002:] she huh
[speaker001:] so what do you think about child rearing is how how would you spend time with kids
[speaker002:] probably doing outdoorsie stuff and keep them trying to keep them away from the TV I guess and McDonald's I I've always said that if I had a kid they wouldn't know what McDonald's is
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] but I guess they learn from their friends don't they
[speaker001:] yeah but well yeah and amazingly a lot of times it's real easy
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know a lot of times whenever we head out of town on a trip or something
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] it's real easy to swing in there for breakfast
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] breakfast and run and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] breakfast is a kind of a funny meal anyway
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and uh
[speaker002:] it is
[speaker001:] kids eat funny
[speaker002:] this lady in our bass club we had a tournament yesterday and she was talking about her daughter said one week her daughter won't uh will be on a no meat kick and one week she'll eat nothing but Twix candy bars you know it's she just eats weird
[speaker001:] and little girls are worse about it than little boys
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] they
[speaker002:] they're always wanting to go on a diet or something
[speaker001:] or or something yeah go on a diet or they
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] they have a well to some extent the public schools or the schools in general
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] influence them
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] the eating meat kick
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know it like it's really morally wrong to eat meat or something I I'm not sure
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] of course that's not the way I was raised being raised in West Texas
[speaker002:] yeah oh is that where you're from
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] born in Denton raised in Lubbock
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] so I understand about bass
[speaker002:] um  yeah uh
[speaker001:] but it but it is interesting
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I I will tell you yeah every person out there should have kids at least once or or have some that they can borrow for a time
[speaker002:] that's the kind I like
[speaker001:] because everyone needs some torture in their lives
[speaker002:] my mother used to put that curse on my sister I hope you have kids just like yourself and my grandmother must have put that on my dad because he got my sister she's just like him
[speaker001:] uh but Jenny is a sweet kid
[speaker002:] yeah I'm sure she is
[speaker001:] and and yeah we do do things and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] it it's funny it's almost like a lot of things that were available to us as children
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] to go do
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] the money's not available
[speaker002:] um-hum I know I don't know how people can afford kids
[speaker001:] you know
[speaker002:] I mean what
[speaker001:] we were talking about how much it cost to go to Disney Land
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] golly a couple three hundred dollars
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] you know for just just a day not including you know a day or two not including lodging and food and all that
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] it's I don't see how anyone can afford it
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] and I understand Six Flags is real expensive now
[speaker002:] it's uh I heard it's twenty bucks a whack for adults
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] yeah that is awful high oh
[speaker001:] twenty bucks a whack now
[speaker002:] yeah or twenty one
[speaker001:] but at least once you pay your way in there at Six Flags
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah everything's free except for the food and stuff
[speaker001:] yeah yeah food and junk to carry out so that's that's not as bad
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] but golly you know Disney World or Disney Land
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] well our problem is that you know a trip to Six Flags or Disney World or uh Disney Land or God forbid Disney World would take forever
[speaker002:] really
[speaker001:] or you'd have to pay air fare and
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] oh for a family you know for a family it gets pretty expensive pretty quick and rent a car when you get there and all that yeah
[speaker002:] oh yeah that's why I lucked out my dad worked for Braniff when I was a kid so we got you know our air fare free and we got discounts