[speaker001:] Uh, I work at T I and we have, uh, of course, started drug testing, uh, [lipsmack] random drug testing here and, uh, I haven't gotten called yet, but, uh, I feel that it's probably pre-, it's pretty good if, if they feel like there is a vast majority of the people at the company doing drugs.
[speaker002:] Do they feel that way?
[speaker001:] Uh, I think that they thought that there was a lot of drug usage here at T I, but I think our latest sat-, statistic said something like ninety-nine point nine eight percent were, uh, testing negative on all the dru-,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] on, on all the testing.
[speaker002:] [Lipsmack] Well, I, I think it's a good idea just because I'm opposed to
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] to the drugs. I think it can cause a lot of problems even though they think they can handle it.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] It's, uh, I don't know, I don't really liken it to alcohol but, yet that can be carried to an extreme, too.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] So I think it's a good idea and I think just the idea that you know that you may be tested
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] might keep you off of them or get you off of them because you're, I don't know that their job would be at risk, because I think they may put [beep] them into some sort of a program to get them off of drugs.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] I would think that, is that how they do it at T I maybe. That,
[speaker001:] Right, I at T I, if you get called in and you test positive for drugs, then you're put on a program and, uh, you know, you go through the program and then [beep] you're called like six months after you complete the pro-, program
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and if you test positive, then you're terminated.
[speaker002:] Well, [NOISE] [lipsmack], I guess I, I draw a hard line [LAUGHTER], but, you know, I would, I'm, I'm in favor of, of that type of thing.
[speaker001:] Yeah, uh-huh.
[speaker002:] That, uh, you, [LAUGHTER] you have people out there that are responsible for certain things
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and you expect them to do their job and
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] it, it is possible that, you know, that they can't do as good a job, uh, as they might do.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Oh, and, of course they can also cause injury to other people.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] If they're, if they're not, uh, you know, fully functional mentally while they're doing their job. They could cause
[speaker002:] Right, and you never know
[speaker001:] you know, serious injury to
[speaker002:] they could just go off the deep end
[speaker001:] oth-, another people.
[speaker002:] on, on a, on something
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] uh, that [LAUGHTER] whatever
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] they're taking at the time and, and it would be, uh, you know, out of the question.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Also, I guess you can, you know, get the wrong kind of stuff and kill yourself
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] just by having a wrong mix of or watered down or
[speaker001:] Oh yeah.
[speaker002:] or whatever, all kinds. I sub in the schools [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] so I've, you know, had a, they
[speaker001:] So,
[speaker002:] they talk a lot about
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] drugs there and I think it's good that they're trying to start some programs down in the elementary schools.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] But, you know, I think they can test all they want for drugs [LAUGHTER] you know, and
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] if they need to do that as a condition for employment and I know many of them are doing it. I know my son has had to do it for both Sam's and Wal-Mart
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and I don't know how many others are doing that and, and I think that's good
[speaker001:] Oh, yes.
[speaker002:] because
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] so many of the kids that are on them are sort of bums that they need to get their [LAUGHTER] life straightened up at
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] an early age and, uh, [lipsmack] [breathing], I don't know, it's just a problem that p-, no one is sure just how to handle
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I think.
[speaker001:] You know, I think personally I'm for it. There's several reason why I, I could think of right now why we shouldn't have it such as drug testing, they say, runs approximately a thousand dollars a person every time you do it.
[speaker002:] Really?
[speaker001:] And,
[speaker002:] It's that high?
[speaker001:] Yes. And, oh, yeah, it's very expensive.
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] And, uh,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] I didn't realize
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] it was that expensive.
[speaker001:] It's not like a normal urinalysis
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] it's very expensive to run them. And, uh, I didn't get a raise this year, because, nobody in our company got a raise.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But, yet
[speaker002:] Just lucky to have jobs.
[speaker001:] they spend all the money on drug testing and if they weren't spending all the money on drug testing, people could have got a raise. So, see, there, you know, there's different, I don't think that that's, that, I think that's more of a personal view of mine
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] other than a, a yes, sir, we should have drug testing because there's really a problem and I know that. But then, I have other views to it.
[speaker002:] I just, I didn't think it was that expensive because my son was in probably a week and a half period
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and Sam's and Wal-Mart are, are owned by the same people
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] he took one for, for, uh, Wal-Mart
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] for job hiring and then Sam's called him and, and [LAUGHTER] he took another one
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] and I, you know, I don't know why they both made him do that
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] since it was so close together. I can see if [breathing], because, you know, if it's a thousand dollars, that's a thousand dollars they wasted.
[speaker001:] Theirs might not run a thousand dollars. *Their's -] Theirs Our, from what I understanding here at T I, they run close to a thousand dollars an employee.
[speaker002:] Well, maybe they run, I don't know, you know, that's just guessing it. Maybe they run a lot of other tests, or maybe it's under a health
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] type program that it
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] it, it would catch a lot of things. I, I just can't imagine
[speaker001:] But, no for all the, the pub-,
[speaker002:] them screening all these employees, paying a thousand dollars to get them.
[speaker001:] Oh, it's,