[speaker002:] yeah matter of fact it's sort of interesting because they do have uh drug testings at the company I work at
[speaker001:] they do all right
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] how do you feel about it
[speaker002:] uh I don't know I was uh for the most part the people that it's effected have not exactly been the most valuable employees so I personally think that you know it doesn't hurt the business center the work atmosphere
[speaker001:] um-hum are all employees subject subject uh subject to it or just a certain
[speaker002:] you know yeah it's basically new employees
[speaker001:] new employees
[speaker002:] yeah um existing employees are too but they for some reason they don't uh uh do anything about it you know they don't uh exercise it
[speaker001:] yeah what about random testing
[speaker002:] they supposedly have it but I've never heard of anybody getting randomly tested
[speaker001:] what what type of industry is it Wayne
[speaker002:] um electrical engineer yeah hold on just a second
[speaker001:] electrical okay sure
[speaker002:] my ninth month old just got hold of one of my three and a half inch diskettes I think uh that won't last very long write protection just doesn't uh doesn't have any eat protection on it
[speaker001:] oh so uh I've I've never been involved in a company that had the drug testing but have been involved in companies that have discussed it one of them very very hazardous type of uh operation
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] drilling oil and gas wells
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and there's enough problem with injuries in that area anyway uh without contributing to it through drugs or alcohol and you know it it was encouraged it's just a matter of a lot of businesses today I don't believe know how to implement a drug program
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] uh how to really really have a good one whether it's preemployment or ongoing either one
[speaker002:] yeah they they I think the way they figured out with us is basically just they can globally say if anybody comes for you know an application white black educated uneducated everyone has to take it
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and that way you know they're open um and I guess you know our company has a fairly good turnover so I guess they figure that they'll get the majority of employees that way
[speaker001:] eventually have everyone yeah it at least run a spot check and I think maybe the knowledge that they could have random testing uh may have an effect too
[speaker002:] now I do know of um two employees that were fired because they they couldn't pass
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and I don't know exactly why they were picked out to do the drug testing because I know I wasn't
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but um
[speaker001:] I personally don't it's easy to see in some industries you know you don't want uh bus drivers or or pilots to be under the influence of drugs and it's easy to see that type but
[speaker002:] that's right interesting yeah yeah
[speaker001:] it can effect uh almost every every office
[speaker002:] oh yeah yeah ours is for security reasons we're government contractors and they don't want secrets like leaking out
[speaker001:] um-hum right and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] are if you're government contractor you probably fall under some type of government supervision on it uh
[speaker002:] right yeah there are requirements matter of fact I think levied upon the company to have some sort of drug testing
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] but uh
[speaker001:] did uh was there much objection to it prior to implementation or
[speaker002:] oh yeah there was a a big thing saying that it was you know invading people's rights and things like that
[speaker001:] um-hum which is which
[speaker002:] you know and but then again it's against the law so it's like how can they you know how can they be invading your rights uh verifying that you've just been invading the law you know
[speaker001:] and people are confused uh I think too by what is a test you we all know about the uh Olympics and the testing there and how some of them can be wrong and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh I I think they're afraid of appropriate prescription medication showing up some of them are some of the innocent ones are and they
[speaker002:] um-hum well they you know they said that um I don't know if it's ever been proven for sure but they were saying that some prescription drugs could show up as being drugs but
[speaker001:] I think they can and uh I think a lot of it uh that's that's why the type of type of test is important
[speaker002:] yeah as long as they give you another shot yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] and we we tend not to know uh we tend to think theoretically but lots of times getting down to the actual method and and results uh being evaluated properly is where we have a short fall
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] where are you located Wayne
[speaker002:] um in Virginia
[speaker001:] in Virginia okay uh
[speaker002:] um-hum where are you calling from
[speaker001:] North Carolina
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] but I've been in in uh Oklahoma for about twenty years so just got kind of got back to this part of this country originally from Virginia
[speaker002:] oh oh okay well up I'm um up near the capitol up near D C
[speaker001:] oh okay yeah pretty pretty time of the year up there now isn't it
[speaker002:] um-hum oh yeah
[speaker001:] uh the uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] Cherry Blossom Festival apparently went all right
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I I missed it this year
[speaker001:] did you
[speaker002:] but uh you know we've we've seen it a couple of times and it's really nice but didn't get to see it this year there are so many things you take for granted when you're in here you know year round DC
[speaker001:] oh yes do you get to the Smithsonian
[speaker002:] you know yeah every now and then we've been down there haven't uh taken the kids down yet though we uh took them to the White House for Easter Egg roll
[speaker001:] but oh good good but I think
[speaker002:] and uh down in the mall for fireworks and things
[speaker001:] that's one of the areas uh I've found several areas in the government that I really enjoy seeing money spent and the Smithsonian complex is one of them I think it's great to go through there and see kids of all all sizes and ages going through those buildings there
[speaker002:] and my oldest is uh two so she's just getting to the age where you know she'd recognize the whale and ever ything like that but
[speaker001:] um-hum and it'll be a great memory for her later too I think
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] well the uh time limit I think is is about up but I enjoyed talking to you Wayne
[speaker002:] yeah I did too thank you bye-bye
[speaker001:] all right thank you bye