[speaker001:] okay how did you find out about this
[speaker002:] well uh my brother-in-law sent me the thing
[speaker001:] from Texas oh
[speaker002:] right uh-huh and we're supposed to talk on voting is that right
[speaker001:] yes uh-huh uh why we think there's such a shortage uh low turn out
[speaker002:] okay um do you want to start
[speaker001:] okay well I think there's a uh a multiple multiple reasons I think first of all a lot of people are fed up and they think they don't really their vote doesn't count
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and second of all a lot of people just aren't educated to you know that they should do that they should participate
[speaker002:] they maybe they don't realize the importance of it or something
[speaker001:] right we had uh city councilman here that won by like a handful of votes you know ten votes or something
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] so that would have made a big difference if people had turned out for his opponent
[speaker002:] boy I'll say
[speaker001:] and I think another reason sometimes it's inconvenient
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] the hours especially in a presidential election I don't know why it couldn't go on for several days or why we couldn't even phone in our vote you know you can you can uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] now the colleges you can register over the phone I don't see why we couldn't vote over the phone you know on the computers and all
[speaker002:] oh that's an idea yeah well no we don't not
[speaker001:] oh you don't do that up there
[speaker002:] yeah we have the voting but uh I never heard of
[speaker001:] I mean you don't register for college there they doing that all over the phone now down here at the big at the big schools now what city are you in
[speaker002:] oh wow oh it's Mantua it's just a small small community we probably only have like oh seventy well maybe seven hundred people not very many
[speaker001:] really oh my my that's interesting
[speaker002:] right so when we vote it's like you say there's it's a handful of of votes makes a difference in fact this last November they had a vote and I think there was only like oh five to ten votes within the three different you know the three different people that were running for for the office of
[speaker001:] right just a difference of five or ten really hm
[speaker002:] yes yes in each of them and so like you say it makes a difference but that's that's a good idea about having it the voting over the phone maybe someday it will
[speaker001:] right yeah we could use our Social Security number or something there ought to be some way that they could safe guard it but
[speaker002:] it will a come uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] uh especially presidential because you know sometimes you do have to stand in line for a long time
[speaker002:] right right and you know I wonder I don't know what the satistics are but I wonder what age um the least has the least good turn out for the voting
[speaker001:] oh that's a an interesting point I have no uh no idea I wonder
[speaker002:] I wonder if it's the younger people or the older people or just in the middle-aged or or who it is that doesn't turn out my guess would be the younger
[speaker001:] um-hum that's true I know a lot of them that don't vote uh because my I have a twenty year old and I know a lot of her friends don't vote
[speaker002:] um-hum oh
[speaker001:] and uh I go to school right now and I I've heard kids say they don't vote
[speaker002:] oh oh just because they don't care
[speaker001:] I guess well they don't really read the newspaper much you know I you know at that age I can remember being in college the first the first time and I was a journalism major and I hardly ever read the paper I think I mean it's appalling when I look back but
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh  uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know I think that may be part of it too they're not really informed
[speaker002:] right and I don't know how big of a problem this is but I wonder if I've heard some people say on occasion that that the the candidates they don't care for any of them so they don't want to you know they don't want to give their vate vote for one or of other just because they
[speaker001:] yeah that's true that's very true I've heard people on talk shows say that they feel that that's a statement when they don't vote at all
[speaker002:] uh-huh right right that that's some that's saying hey you know we want somebody
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] better for the candidate I don't know I think that's kind of a cop out I really do I think you ought to you know make your opinion one way or the other there I mean if you even if you don't agree with
[speaker001:] cop out yeah I think so too I know even if you're voting against somebody more than for someone which I usually am nowadays in the national elections it seems
[speaker002:] right  right we have
[speaker001:] uh I don't know when when I voted for somebody with great enthusiasm it was a long time ago oh
[speaker002:] and so this last election here in in our community they had um they counted them by hand you know the ballots by hand and I know that on the bigger ones they have little it's a punch card system are you familiar with that
[speaker001:] um-hum no you you punch it something out
[speaker002:] right you you have with your pencil you just punch you know they have a little tray that holds the ballots
[speaker001:] um-hum oh no I've never seen one like that
[speaker002:] and and apparently it makes the the counting a lot easier for the
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] for those that are counting it but um with just the small ones they just go ahead and count it by hand and I really liked the the punch card one because we got the results so much sooner when it was over
[speaker001:] oh right well we have uh where you fill it in with the lead pencil and and the machine counts it it's really fast too
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh oh yeah that would be they probably can turn those results in
[speaker001:] it well well right like the Scantron you know they call it that goes through the machine I half the tests I take in school now are that way
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh
[speaker001:] it's so easy I just stick them in this machine and get the number out you know
[speaker002:] oh wow that's fascinating
[speaker001:] right right
[speaker002:] oh so have you ever run for any kind of