[speaker001:] do you have a particular attitude about public education
[speaker002:] okay well I have one child that's in public schools now I have three children that went to a private school and then we put them into public school system and I think we did them a big disservice by putting them in public schools
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] um I think that they my child now is in public school and we're getting ready to put her into a private school because of it I just don't feel like they're they're getting enough out of it you know for
[speaker001:] academic
[speaker002:] yes yes I just don't think that academically they're and the school systems here is supposed to be really good they have I don't know if you're familiar but Texas has uh oil money that finances their school system you know there there's no state taxes paid here
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh I didn't know
[speaker002:] so the money from the taxes from the oil go to pay go towards the schools and running of the schools so they're supposed to have a really good program but uh I don't know I just feel like my daughters are in college now and the last three years their life they went to public school and they made straight As and they're really struggling in college now
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] and uh I think that it has a lot to do with it I don't I don't I don't know where where you can fix it you know what you need
[speaker001:] well apparently in your state there's more incentive to send your child to public uh to a private school because in New York you pay taxes for public schools and then if you wanna send your child to private school you pay again
[speaker002:] yes well you do that here too you pay higher uh property taxes for the area that you're living in depending on the schools and the area you're in
[speaker001:] oh okay I got I got the impression you said the oil money paid for the schools so
[speaker002:] no it it supplements the schools that for therefore there's no state income tax that goes towards uh the school systems
[speaker001:] ah uh-huh
[speaker002:] because of that you know because of that but the property taxes that you have on your home depending on what area you are you know like they're higher in certain areas than they are in other areas you know but uh
[speaker001:] sure right I don't I don't have any experience myself with private schools so I really can't say they're better I did go to public schools and what I'm finding um right now I have two kids and I'm going back to work and I'm substitute teaching in public schools
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and what I see in the high school is I don't know that it's public private I think times have changed I mean I know that I would never not do my homework because lightning would strike me something terrible would happen
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum exactly yeah
[speaker001:] but nowadays the kids don't do their work and they have the nerve to say to you so what are you gonna do and you're not gonna do anything
[speaker002:] exactly well there's no disciplinary actions you know that can be done taken against them at all yeah
[speaker001:] but you yeah I think the most important thing that a public school can do to help the problem is to to maybe go backwards in some ways um I find the teachers trying to be like the kids uh telling their kids I teach art and they'll go yeah that's cool well maybe they should talk like grown-ups and the kids should learn to act like grown-ups instead of the grown-ups trying to act like the kids to get their acceptance I find the teachers are very concerned about being liked
[speaker002:] being friendly being friends with the kids
[speaker001:] being being friends with them and you know they don't wanna be so strict they don't wanna be so hard on them and I find that the kids are not turning in quality work because there's nothing to impress upon them that they better
[speaker002:] uh-huh right right
[speaker001:] and you know the kids
[speaker002:] I think that that's right I think I think a lot of that right there and and I think that that's where you come into the private schools the private schools have more power you know I mean because in public schools these people really don't have any authority to do anything or to really punish these kids in any way I mean they can't even hardly give them detention you know without
[speaker001:] well maybe they'll make them
[speaker002:] having to call their parents and have their parents come in and all this kind of stuff I mean it really is a major thing
[speaker001:] well you know yeah well maybe they'll make them stay home for a day but that's no torture for a kid
[speaker002:] no really exactly yeah to stay home is like oh yeah
[speaker001:] yeah and I know kids if they you know if they're late enough often enough they get a letter home and they get to the mail box before their parents because their parents work so you know it's not a problem and I find that you know
[speaker002:] uh-huh um-hum they send oh because they send the report cards and and failing notices and stuff home in the mail
[speaker001:] um yeah well they they sent me yes that's true it progress reports
[speaker002:] progress reports well see up in Oklahoma now they do that but here they don't do that they give these progress reports to these kids my son is a senior and he failed a class this last six weeks and I'm like Kevin how could but he didn't even tell me you know and so I called the school I'm like I didn't even know that he had was failing this class and their like but we sent the progress report home with him well you think he's gonna give it to me I mean is he you think he's he may be failing a class but he's not an idiot
[speaker001:] oh sure they yeah they never have homework they always did it in school I have a fourteen year old son who is just getting into you know realizing that he can dupe me I think
[speaker002:] right right I know I
[speaker001:] but I I think the the public school it's not that the teachers are inferior or that the materials are inferior I think what's going on is that the teachers have to be backed up when the kids don't do what they're supposed to do um the teachers have to have some way to
[speaker002:] well they have to have parental support the parents have got
[speaker001:] they need the parental