[speaker001:] Yeah. Yes, I talked with, um, I talked with people from Richardson and Plano and, uh, the first three days, and then yesterday I talked with someone with, from Pennsylvania, so,
[speaker002:] Yeah, because,
[speaker001:] it's the,
[speaker002:] I've only made, this is only my third call.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] I, I tried to make calls two different days and I couldn't get through.
[speaker001:] Oh, I know. Sometimes I just I'm, in, it just takes a very long time so,
[speaker002:] Does it? Yeah, I've been trying to, you know, do that, and, and sometimes I just can't wait that long,
[speaker001:] Yeah, I know.
[speaker002:] so I just hang up.
[speaker001:] Well.
[speaker002:] Because it keeps going through the thing over and over again.
[speaker001:] This is hilarious [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] But I knew as soon as I heard your voice, I thought, Kathy's, it's Kathy Kester [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Oh. Well, tell me, what books have you read lately? [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Well, let's see, I, um, [lipsmack] gosh, I can't even think. I haven't read any, and you're such a reader, I know that and I,
[speaker001:] Well, I don't read all that much for enjoyment. I mean, I read a lot for school, but gee, I just don't have much time for enjoyment reading [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah. The, the last book I picked up was a book by Judy Bloom,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and it was, um, it was called, um, SMART WOMEN, I think.
[speaker001:] Um.
[speaker002:] Um, or something like that.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And it was, it was kind of, I really didn't like it at all.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] It was, it was written back in the early eighties.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] And it was all this, this, um, divorced woman syndrome
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] of the, um, it was almost like a, a pre-AIDS scare kind of thing.
[speaker001:] Interesting.
[speaker002:] It was really an interesting, because I, I right away looked at when it was copyrighted.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Because I could tell by the theme of almost when it was written.
[speaker001:] Yes, yes, yeah.
[speaker002:] And it was all about women searching for themselves. *two utts?
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And, um, [lipsmack] you know, a lot of [LAUGHTER] hanky-panky,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] going on.
[speaker001:] Yeah. That kind of was, um, kind of a pop psychology time for wh-, when a lot of books like that were coming out, I think.
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] And so that makes real sense, that that's, um, when it was written.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] Um, I haven't, wasn't really aware that she had written anything for, um, adults. I was always,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] just more aware of her jer-, you know, for her young people, her books. *one utt?
[speaker002:] Yeah, and she's more famous for that,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] but she has been writing for adults also,
[speaker001:] I'll be darned.
[speaker002:] and so I thought hey, I'll just try this, you know,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] and see what it was like. It was very, um, [lipsmack] the style was very conversational.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] [Lipsmack] You would have lots of conversations between people
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] rather than any description.
[speaker001:] Right, yeah, yeah.
[speaker002:] You know how that is, and um,
[speaker001:] Yeah. I wonder if she's written anything really recently, if she's got anything printed, in print.
[speaker002:] Yeah, she has, because I, I remember seeing a new book by her
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] that was out, and I think it was a, it was an adult book.
[speaker001:] I'll be darned.
[speaker002:] So anyway,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] but that's the last thing I, I've read,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] and, um,
[speaker001:] Well, it's, I'm trying to think the last actual book I read that wasn't, let's see, I think I read, oh, when I was on vacation, um, between semester break and summer, you know, on semester break between spring and summer
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] and I went to my mother's, I read a book that I have, should have read when I was probably in high school. I read, um, JANE EYRE.
[speaker002:] [Gasp] I,
[speaker001:] [Breathing] No, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. JANE EYRE? No, no, no, no, it wasn't JANE EYRE.
[speaker002:] WUTHERING HEIGHTS?
[speaker001:] No, it was, um, uh, PRIDE AND PREJUDICE,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah,
[speaker001:] by Jane Austen.
[speaker002:] by Jane Austen, yes.
[speaker001:] That's what it was, yes.
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] And, um, you know, I, I didn't know what to expect, except I had heard that, that Jane Austen was such a wonderful novelist, and [breathing] she really was good. I mean, I was, was very much impressed with the way her plot was put together so,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] intricately and, um, and, you know, I just, but I, as I say, I was pretty much ashamed that I hadn't read something before then.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]. *slash error
[speaker002:] Because I, I think I was, I think I read it in college,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. *slash error should be 'b'
[speaker002:] or had to write it, read it in high school or college, but I don't remember it.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker002:] And then when Jennie had to read it at Gettysburg
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and I got her the, I got her someone, I think it was, um, oh, some actress reading it.
[speaker001:] Oh, how interesting.
[speaker002:] You know, they had an abridged version of it on tape.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And so I got that for her, and she loved doing that.
[speaker001:] Oh, I'll bet, yeah.
[speaker002:] But I remember that was the book.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And now I, I mean, I think it's around here somewhere,
[speaker001:] Right I wouldn't be,
[speaker002:] I'm just going to have to put it,
[speaker001:] surprised, yeah.
[speaker002:] in the car sometimes and listen to it.
[speaker001:] Sure. Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] But, um,
[speaker001:] Well, I read that, and then I'm trying to think, um, usually I try to, to find something long [breathing] that,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I'm going to, when if, if I have long periods of time, like Christmas vacation, or, you know, when I know I'm not going to be doing anything for a while, um,
[speaker002:] Yeah. Oh, that's what I do too.
[speaker001:] Yeah, and that's about it, because otherwise I'm reading so much for school. I'm, um, I have just started reading a book. Actually, it's for school, but it's for, um, there's a, a literary jour-, well, not a literary journal, it's a, [breathing] it's kind of a journal of, of the history of ideas that's, that's starting to be published, um, from U T D. The first issue doesn't come out until next year, but, um,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] I'm doing some reviews of books, just to, what, to sort of recommend to wh-, whether or not a full-scale review should be done for the journal,
[speaker002:] Oh, how neat.
[speaker001:] and I've, yeah, it's really neat because these are brand new books and I,
[speaker002:] Oh, great.
[speaker001:] just got a, I got a, th-, this one, um, most of the stuff is on, uh, literary criticism and philosophy,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and religion and all that.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] This one is on Johann Sebastian Bach, and it's a, a, a biography,
[speaker002:] Oh, great.
[speaker001:] that is really interesting,
[speaker002:] Oh, that's fascinating.
[speaker001:] I mean, it, it's fascinating, it really is.
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] Um, but it's so long, I, I don't really have the time to read the whole thing, but I think,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] eventually I'll go back to it. But it's,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] it was written, I mean the, the copyright is nineteen ninety-one, so it's a brand new book.
[speaker002:] Oh, it's a brand new book.
[speaker001:] Yeah, uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Oh, that, that would be wonderful
[speaker001:] Yeah,
[speaker002:] to read something like that.
[speaker001:] and he really, this man really shed some light on, um, [lipsmack] some,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] aspects of [breathing] of Bach's genius and, and, and, you know, the, and more sociological things, you know, like the, the idea that, [breathing] um, that music, to be a musician was as much, um, of a family occupation as anything. I mean, you know, that was
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] it was families had just loads of musicians [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah, and they just went from generation,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] probably to generation,
[speaker001:] that's right.
[speaker002:] just with these, with these all passing it from one to the other.
[speaker001:] Yes, uh-huh, and, um,
[speaker002:] Yeah, that's the way it was, I'm sure back then.
[speaker001:] Yeah. So, uh,
[speaker002:] Yeah. Oh, that's interesting.
[speaker001:] it was just really interesting, if that's, you know, that's kind of what, but I have to [breathing] not only am, am I re-, reading it to decide whether or not it should be reviewed, but also, um, because the board of advisers for this, um, journal [breathing] doesn't have, right now doesn't have a really respected name, um, who's a, uh, a scholar on, on music,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [Breathing] um, and I'm supposed to decide whether I think this man might be a worthy person to be a, you know, in that position on the board so,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] I don't know if I want to take that responsibility or not, but [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Wow, that's rough.
[speaker001:] But at least I,
[speaker002:] That's real rough.
[speaker001:] can tell them what I think, so, um,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] it's real interesting.
[speaker002:] Well, that's a neat thing to be involved in. *slash error
[speaker001:] Yeah, it is.
[speaker002:] Because I think our, I think my alma mater, um, Gettysburg, I think they were just starting a magazine *sd
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] that was similar to that.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker002:] I think that's probably a, sort of a thing to do
[speaker001:] Yes [breathing].
[speaker002:] in small colleges,
[speaker001:] Yeah,
[speaker002:] but, um,
[speaker001:] that it, you know, you see, you see a lot of small colleges doing things,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] like that, right, uh-huh,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] because it attracts really a, a lot people's interest. That's one way, it's really good public relations for small schools,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] I think so [breathing].
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But, uh, another one of my projects this summer is, actually it's part of my research assistantship, is, um, [breathing] it's helping a professor, uh, compile a bunch of translations of, of various poems [breathing] for a book that he's writing, {C and
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] [Breathing] so } I'm learning the names, if not the actual contents, of a lot of different poems and [breathing] a lot of French people.
[speaker002:] Now, translations, what do you mean, translations of, of,
[speaker001:] Um, well, where, where, for instance, um, a Baudelaire poem that was written,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] in the French and then has been translated into English by,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] various people.
[speaker002:] Oh, I see.
[speaker001:] And the translations are all so different from one another.
[speaker002:] All different.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Oh, that's interesting.
[speaker001:] So it's multiple translations of single works and, [breathing] and that's right now, right now pretty much what I'm doing as far as, um, my work, is just kind of compiling,
[speaker002:] Gosh.
[speaker001:] all that for him. So,
[speaker002:] That's great.
[speaker001:] It's real interesting.
[speaker002:] Boy, you really lift me up to a different,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]. *slash error
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] I mean, here I, I'm dealing with, uh,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]. *slash error should be 'x'
[speaker002:] cleaning the stove and,
[speaker001:] Oh, well, let me tell you, *slash error
[speaker002:] You know, I'm [LAUGHTER],
[speaker001:] There are days when I would be prefer,
[speaker002:] I wish I were dealing with Baudelaire.
[speaker001:] really doing that [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] That would be nice.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] I don't know if I've told you, but, um, this is not on the subject,