[speaker001:] what do you think
[speaker002:] well um I can't be terribly authoritative on what life was like thirty years ago um because I'm not that old yet
[speaker001:] uh oh I can be but go ahead
[speaker002:] um  um I know that uh I mean obviously you look at at technological the technological aspect of of social change I mean you didn't have uh you didn't have video games you didn't have home computers you didn't have Xerox machines
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I mean uh you you try to you go into a a business today and you you try to imagine the whole thing except running off of carbon paper and it's almost inconceivable now because the Xerox machines and and everything have become such you know such such a a part of the way we live and the yeah
[speaker001:] right we fax everything we don't even wait for the mail anymore
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] yeah uh a business associate of mine was was talking about how it used to be where you would send things through the mail and you had to do something this was concerning the S E C and so if they had business to do they had to finish it you know three days in advance so they could get it through the mail
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and now it's the kind of thing where you can work up until the last minute
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] because you can get it there you know in in a matter of minutes
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know through a fax machine and because of that these quote unquote convenience type items have actually made work that much more intense and that much harder
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] because you're expected to work on stuff up until the last minute
[speaker001:] you're expected to exactly and I recently read an article on just this that said stress today is so much worse it should be less because we have a microwave and our grandmother's had to bake brownies and we can throw them in a microwave for two minutes but the more conveniences we have the more that's expected of us and we have no downtime
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] like we don't stop and wait for things to happen because we don't have to
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so we keep moving we don't stop and wait for the things to bake and this to happen and that to happen we just hit buttons and keep going to the next thing so we have no relaxation time in between
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] so they say that's really a bad thing that you need to learn a lot of ways to to deal with that and get your your time in between things
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] so that's good that's an interesting point but I just think our our family lives have changed drastically and I think that's just of course a part of it is technology I mean our kids where would they be without Nintendo and you know their TV shows and that and some of that is really bad I think but we have all single families so many single families now um a lot of working both parents are working so there's a whole big effect on our kids and not very many of my daughter's friends really are on their original mother and father you know I'm wondering what this is going to do in ten and twenty years
[speaker002:] well there's that and there's the fact that you know nowadays fewer and fewer couples are deciding to have kids what generally tends to happen I mean the U S would be actually declining in population slightly if it weren't for the fact that we have continuation large scale immigration into the country
[speaker001:] you're probably right and I'm an O B nurse and that's never really occurred to me but that's that's interesting I never really thought about it that way
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I saw that the numbers on that awhile back and I was like uh-huh
[speaker001:] yeah yeah that's true when is this good or not good
[speaker002:] well um
[speaker001:] we don't know that yet
[speaker002:] in terms of the long term effect effect on on America in terms of the culture and everything I don't know um
[speaker001:] yeah I don't know either
[speaker002:] most of the of the next generation is going to be in or or an extremely extremely extremely large part part of the next generation is going to be you know second generation from uh from immigrant parents
[speaker001:] that's true
[speaker002:] and they're going to be really struggling and I don't think that America is currently the type of environment where struggling up from the bottom is necessarily considered to be good
[speaker001:] right right
[speaker002:] I mean it's no longer the the uh the accomplishment that it that it once was and not that many people are really trying I don't think
[speaker001:] yeah yeah that's kind of scary hum well that's true but I it's just very very different and I guess every ten years it's just been very different
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so and I don't know what's gonna happen um I know what I'm seeing here at my well my job is that people are having their children much later in life
[speaker002:] yeah that
[speaker001:] so that they're establishing careers and they've got their homes and they've got a lot