[speaker001:] what I mean hobbies do you enjoy
[speaker002:] uh well lets see I suppose I could say I enjoy joy crocheting um gardening knitting uh hiking
[speaker001:] do you have a lot of spare time to do it in or is it something you kind of have to make time for
[speaker002:] well it seems like I don't have time for them but I'm I don't work full-time or anything
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I sell Avon and Stanley products
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but it's that's not you know the same as an eight hour job
[speaker001:] well it can't from what I've heard understood it can can be
[speaker002:] yeah it's it's up to the person
[speaker001:] sometimes yeah well I I enjoy needlepoint although boy I guess I got myself burned out I did too much too fast and
[speaker002:] uh uh-huh
[speaker001:] for some reason my eyes aren't quite what they used to be either
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] and um
[speaker002:] you sound young
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I am but I I don't know it's just maybe it's the light but
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and um I enjoy photography as a hobby
[speaker002:] oh good
[speaker001:] and boating and horseback riding although I'm recovering from back surgery so it's going to be awhile before I can do either one of those
[speaker002:] uh-huh um um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and bowling and right now my biggest hobby I guess since um you know recovering is watching television and playing Nintendo with my son
[speaker002:] yeah that could be a little boring sometimes I guess too but
[speaker001:] and I do enjoy reading
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] um I do read a lot read quite a lot
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh I enjoy reading different types of things
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I enjoy reading novels then uh you know more serious stuff
[speaker002:] how how old is your little boy
[speaker001:] today is his birthday yeah yeah
[speaker002:] oh is it really oh how old
[speaker001:] six
[speaker002:] oh that's nice my baby's expecting her first baby this month say yes
[speaker001:] oh really oh how exciting that could it's always
[speaker002:] so our children our children are all grown up
[speaker001:] do they live close by
[speaker002:] just one of them
[speaker001:] the one that's going to have the baby well that's good you that will be your new hobby then taking care of grandbaby
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] um my sister's going to have a baby this summer
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so but I guess that's a little off the subject
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I don't know I've tried various things I've tried to get interested in things like refinishing furniture woodworking or um ceramics but it just seems like it's so expensive to break into something new
[speaker002:] um um-hum
[speaker001:] that um you know with my I've got quite enough of an investment in my photography equipment
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] that
[speaker002:] we we had for a while done uh well we still do a lot of picture taking in that and uh we're in the process of putting our eight millimeter
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh films and now the kids and I were going to put them on video
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] and we're we're in the process of doing that right now and
[speaker001:] are you doing that yourself
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] how do you do it
[speaker002:] uh we bought the equipment uh that you do it with
[speaker001:] you don't have to I mean is the something that you don't have to see it as you it's not like your
[speaker002:] well the you buy this little little piece of equipment and you use your video camera of course and uh your projector
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum oh okay that's what I wondered
[speaker002:] and the combination you the way you connect you know connect them up
[speaker001:] do they make good quality copies do you think
[speaker002:] uh I think it's going to we were a little worried there was a lot of background noise on it but uh we can hook it into our uh stereo system after we get the pictures all done
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] we can hook it into our uh a video or uh stereo system and uh put music to the film and that will cut out all the background the noise of the uh recorder running and that
[speaker001:] yeah oh well that's nice
[speaker002:] because the projector made a lot makes a lot of noise
[speaker001:] yeah I remember those we've never had one my parents never had one but um
[speaker002:] yeah and uh so that's been kind and our darkroom is very we have a darkroom but it's very dusty
[speaker001:] oh that's my dream I guess is to have my own darkroom
[speaker002:] we we're real active in it for a long time but you know you get busy and
[speaker001:] yeah um
[speaker002:] the kids grow up and
[speaker001:] they're expensive to maintain just the chemicals are expensive
[speaker002:] yeah we mainly just did a bit of black and white it's
[speaker001:] yeah I would still like black and white
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] to me black and white is photography color is more snapshot
[speaker002:] oh you can really get some good really good pictures in black and white
[speaker001:] yeah you really can people don't realize that
[speaker002:] that um-hum
[speaker001:] not realize that black and white it nowadays it's actually more expensive than uh color
[speaker002:] um-hum it's hard to even find film or anything
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] yeah but uh
[speaker001:] and I well I used to I learned how to knit when I was little my grandmother knitted a lot
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and she knitted all the time
[speaker002:] did she
[speaker001:] and uh before she passed away and made some beautiful things but I've never really learned how to do more than the basic
[speaker002:] oh that's great yeah yeah I don't do a whole it uh time seems to be hard to find for anything you want to do I don't know why
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you
[speaker001:] yeah I know
[speaker002:] you'd think I'd have a lot of time but
[speaker001:] yeah you'd think I would too but you know
[speaker002:] but I I I'm knitting an afghan for the baby and I haven't worked on this for several weeks I just haven't got back to it
[speaker001:] um  when's the baby due
[speaker002:] the twenty ninth
[speaker001:] time to get busy do you know if it's going to be a boy or a girl
[speaker002:] I don't know
[speaker001:] I don't know
[speaker002:] they don't really care what they have
[speaker001:] is it her first one
[speaker002:] yeah yeah they didn't want to know so uh
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] but but I do enjoy it I I I enjoy painting some too but I I really really have trouble finding time I did did some toll painting for a while and I started doing a still life and it's it never got finished
[speaker001:] yeah that's something I've it's interesting to me people who watch people who are that know how to paint I just felt like that's something I've never been very good at or very good at drawing or anything
[speaker002:] well had have you watched any of these things on TV these large brush
[speaker001:] I've watched uh I've yeah here and there but they make it look uh I I know that you know they just make it look so easy but I know it I'm smart enough to know that it's not quite that easy
[speaker002:] um-hum well once you start it apparently it's not bad some of the girls have gone into the call age group Claritin University is just not too far from here
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] they've gone in and uh done a class on the large brush and actually did the painting
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and you know they've never done anything and they come out pretty nice
[speaker001:] yeah I've yeah and I know a girl that used to do it and hers did too but I just don't think see myself whipping out masterpieces in thirty minutes like they do on the shows  do you enjoy cooking
[speaker002:] yeah I like to cook
[speaker001:] I like to cook but I've really gotten away from it it's with just two my son and myself it's just not
[speaker002:] yeah I don't do a lot of fancy cooking
[speaker001:] to me it's just he you know I hate you know hate to admit this but we live on frozen food
[speaker002:] well it depends on what it is uh you know well now we I we garden have a small garden and I can I do canning
[speaker001:] yeah they have
[speaker002:] and uh
[speaker001:] yeah I like gardening that's of course that's something I can't do with my back
[speaker002:] uh yeah
[speaker001:] and uh my back
[speaker002:] that's too bad was it lower back or
[speaker001:] yeah my dad's grew up on a farm and he always had gardens and we always had fresh vegetables which I just really like and
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah that's one thing that our gardening we're getting it my husband he's retired but he's having trouble now and he's not not allowed to mow the grass we have a lot of grass takes me about four hours to do our lawn
[speaker001:] um oh you have to do it oh gosh
[speaker002:] and uh and you know he's really shouldn't run the
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] and things like that so it makes it a little bit difficult but I I do love to garden my kids loved it because I never allowed anybody in my garden that didn't like to do it I didn't want anybody in my garden I was a grump
[speaker001:] do you garden vegetables or flowers or both or mostly vegetables
[speaker002:] yeah mostly vegetables I had grew some flowers but mostly vegetables
[speaker001:] yeah there's nothing like fresh vegetables picked out of the garden
[speaker002:] yeah yeah uh
[speaker001:] but well it's been nice talking to you
[speaker002:] yes well I hope you have a nice birthday today for your son
[speaker001:] well you too well he's having his party until Friday but
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] he knows today today after the little something today because he knows it's his birthday to make it special but
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] well you have a nice day okay bye-bye
[speaker002:] okay you too and thanks a lot bye-bye