[speaker001:] [Talking].
[speaker002:] Well, I was just wondering if you had had any experience with, um, the care of the elderly.
[speaker001:] Yes, I have. In fact, uh, [breathing] just a little over, just a little less than a year ago, uh, my mother [talking] went to be with the Lord, and we cared for her the last, oh, seventeen months of her life here in the, at home.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Aside from, uh, [lipsmack] having to, uh, take her to the hospital and, uh, you know, those times, well, she was there in the, the regular hospital.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] And then she was diagnosed having inoperable type of cancer, and so the doctor elected to have her, uh, finish out, uh, in the hospice program.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, uh, I, as far as I'm concerned, that is far and above any nursing home, because, uh, she's around her own fa-, you know, the, the elderly parent in question is around their own family. The, uh, hospice program provides a hospital type bed. {D Well, it is a hospital bed, } and all the oxygen,
[speaker002:] [Noise].
[speaker001:] stuff and a, uh, and a visiting nurse at least every other day, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[speaker002:] Well, that's nice.
[speaker001:] And it's all taken care of by, by, uh, Medicare, uh, [lipsmack] and, uh, it, it's, it's really neat, {F uh. } And I, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't banish, uh, my old loved one to a, to a warehouse.
[speaker002:] No.
[speaker001:] And that's, that's what I basically, uh, view a nursing home as, a warehouse, so [LAUGHTER] that's,
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing] It's really sad [breathing].
[speaker001:] Pardon me?
[speaker002:] It's really a sad situation.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. .
[speaker002:] And, uh, I think a lot of people struggle with. I,
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] I guess the problem is that the spouse of whoever, you know, the parent is,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] doesn't always want the in-law living in the house. Is that right?
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Well, that's really sad.
[speaker001:] Yeah, I know. But, uh, in this case, uh, spouse and I, uh, are, uh, we're, are, are, uh, united in this area because,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. [faint]
[speaker001:] I guess her father, her grandfather and grandmother both lived with, uh, [lipsmack] her parents, uh, th-, th-, their golden years too, so
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] this isn't like, uh, uh, just one, one, uh, instance. In fact, uh, her, uh, uh, experiences were, were invaluable
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] to me. Uh, [LAUGHTER] in fact, I don't know if I could have, uh, held up, uh, you know, without my wife, uh, helping in this,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] this, in this case.
[speaker002:] Yes. Well, I know when the, I remember being a child and my grandmother had had [NOISE] se-, several strokes and things, and that we had, my parents tried to keep her in the house, and they did for a long time. {A I couldn't,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] tell you how long, } until she got, uh, where she had to have complete care, and so,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] they couldn't, you know, keep her in the house anymore, and it was really hard on everyone. She had to have, you know, twenty-four hour a day care. And I don't remember much about it except that there was a nursing home at that time
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] just a block or two from our house.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And that, um, they put her there, and [lipsmack] we all went just constantly until she died.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay.
[speaker002:] But it was very hard on everyone to see, you know, grandmother be like that, and I don't know that, you know, [LAUGHTER] I don't, being so young, I don't remember why.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] You know, what was, why she had to go there.
[speaker001:] Well, maybe, well, as, as you say, the care of, of grandmother or was, was just such that such mom and dad couldn't handle it.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Well, I do remember that she was, you know, totally incapable of taking care of herself in any way.
[speaker001:] Oh, boy, yeah.
[speaker002:] And that that, they couldn't, they found that they could not
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] you know, give her the hygienic care and everything that she needed.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Well, then, then there's almost, then there's almost no, no, uh, uh, choice left to her then [NOISE].
[speaker002:] No, but like you say, there is a tendency for people to be abandoned, though, you know,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] in the nursing home. I do remember the other patients there, uh, [NOISE] being real excited when we came to see our own grandmother, because they got some interaction with someone.
[speaker001:] Right. In fact, just, uh, just, uh, sit and chat with them for five minutes and, and be interested in what they have to say
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] regardless of what it is.
[speaker002:] Right, right. And I guess that's hard on people to give, [breathing] give up their lives. If they're busy they don't [breathing] you know.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh [NOISE].
[speaker002:] It's easy to abandon people, because we do have the nursing homes, I guess.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] If you can afford them. But, anyway. Well, I'm,
[speaker001:] And then, then,
[speaker002:] glad it worked out good for your family.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah, it did, and I was just pr-, I just praised the Lord that, that we were able to, uh, [lipsmack] have, uh, uh,