[speaker001:] okay I'm definitely for drug random drug drug testing and any kind of drug testing to try
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] and get rid of it
[speaker002:] hm but don't you don't you find that that sort of imposes imposes a um I mean it it I I
[speaker001:] taking away people's free agency
[speaker002:] pretty yes I think so I mean I
[speaker001:] how many times do you think drug people have taken away people's free agency
[speaker002:] well not probably not as often as as as you'd like to think and and when you when you take and I I mean it's like would you like to have somebody would you like to have the police able to come to your house and search for for let's say weapons uh twice a day without telling you um would you like to have them come and find and look maybe for uh oh uh illegal illegal books and and could they come and and and just knock on the door and walk in your house and say I want I wanna find illegal books
[speaker001:] no but as long as you are working for somebody you are
[speaker002:] yeah well
[speaker001:] more or less under their jurisdiction
[speaker002:] um-hum okay well would would you the place at work would you like them to be able to search your purse and and then every time anytime they wanted to just come and and check to see if you had anything that was maybe against the company I I I'm it's not that I'm in favor of of you know that I think people should be allowed to take drugs at the job or or you know anything like that of course but on the other hand it it's it seems a little bit nasty to me just to have this uh um you know it seems quite an imposition on on personal freedom to have um you know it the the the vast majority of people that are at work aren't aren't taking drugs and have nothing to do with them and yet they're being subjected to the to the same kinds of of imposition that everybody else is and and I think I think that that's just unfair if you put it in a different context you see the same either the same you know it it get becomes a little clearer of course you know I'm my assumption is that that you don't take drugs and and and you of course would never have have nothing to hide in that sense and so it that doesn't doesn't hit home very close right but when it's something else it it does hit home and and
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I've you know it ah it it gets more like a police state um and it's a lot less like America to me and and I find that uh I find it pretty offensive to have you know to have to be subjected you know I mean to to subject everybody to that kind of of of uh how you know random search
[speaker001:] it wouldn't bother me and I don't think it would bother any of my family I have a son that's a doctor and I have a son that's an airline pilot
[speaker002:] and yeah uh
[speaker001:] and I think they're they are among the top ones that should be subject to to that
[speaker002:] yeah yeah uh you know and and again again you know in my case I have nothing to hide and I'm not gonna you know it's not gonna hurt me but on the other hand I'm very uh it it perturbs me to have the this issue
[speaker001:] uh one of our freedoms so called
[speaker002:] yeah I mean just to to to be able to walk in and say you know now you have to show us this or you have to do that or you have to and
[speaker001:] taken away
[speaker002:] um it it seems it it seems like it's an erosion of of of a lot of what makes uh the the United States what it is and and I I I strongly dislike that um and so
[speaker001:] well I'm for doing it because I think that it is a protection against the majority of the of the citizens
[speaker002:] yeah now actually actually I I don't take a a totally strong position on it I mean I think that I think there are certain certain positions
[speaker001:] you're just trying to argue with me to show another point
[speaker002:] no no no I I think that there are there are certain positions where the the benefits of it outweigh the the the disadvantages of it and and like you say you know maybe airline pilots or or um you know people who who whether
[speaker001:] I have a son that's a doctor what about him
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah I I suppose you know I I I kind of wonder about sort of random testing in general I I guess random testing is a way to make people not not feel like they're being singled out
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] right because you know it seems like that that um you ought to be able to tell who who has a problem and and uh and be able to deal with them um but but I suppose that has uh some uh some negative side effects too right I mean people still
[speaker001:] maybe they would feel like they were being
[speaker002:] persecuted or something right um and uh and I supposed that the random testing and I guess the logic is that if as long as
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] you know if if if you're not involved then you don't have a problem with it it shouldn't it shouldn't be any an issue for you and and and eventually the people that are actually doing that and causing the problems will be will be caught at it but um I don't know
[speaker001:] I just really feel strongly against drugs because I think that they're they're tearing our nation apart they're tearing families apart they're tearing
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] good people that you know uh could would be asset a asset to the community and to the nation and I just think that drugs is
[speaker002:] um yeah
[speaker001:] I just try so hard I would try so hard to get them out of wherever they were
[speaker002:] yeah I I you know it's it's sort of like you know I I I don't I just disagree with your position in general it's it's just that it's kind of