[speaker001:] good morning do you have a computer a personal computer
[speaker002:] yes I do I have um uh fifty megabyte hard disk on a so I got a I little you know lot of room for information I'm a I'm a programmer at work
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] so uh but I I do all of my programming on the mainframe and I uh don't have a lot of opportunity to work on the PC except at home
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] so I find it very interesting how about you
[speaker001:] um I have one uh a Wang or um sorry a Compaq portable that my son picked up at one point
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[speaker001:] uh without documentation so it was very cheap it's a two eighty six
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so it has no hard drive
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] um so that's limiting I tend to use it to log into the the mainframe at work
[speaker002:] oh that's great
[speaker001:] and then I have a a Mac that I use for graphics and
[speaker002:] do you like the Mac real well
[speaker001:] um I don't there's something about the Mac a lot of things about the Mac I don't like I don't like the size of the screen I have an old uh Plus I don't like the keyboard but I it's extremely easy to use
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and it's very good for for graphics and actually I I mean it's to the point where programs are easily readily available and inexpensive so I did my income tax on it
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I have um uh it's not really a budget package but a a financial tracking package you know for my checkbook and stuff like that
[speaker002:] um-hum I've I've heard a lot of wonderful things about the Mac except it does have a limitation as far as the screen goes
[speaker001:] right and I mean you can you can buy an extra screen but but it's somehow because the screen comes with it it it always looks awkward to have the two screens
[speaker002:] that's true that's very true um-hum
[speaker001:] and I found uh my son is um uh second year college student and he in high school had no interest in the computer at all and so he when teachers said you know you have to type your papers at least with a Mac he was willing to sit down and type his paper and um
[speaker002:] um-hum  uh-huh
[speaker001:] now he does play with with the the you know IBM clone
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but um and has learned quite a bit about it and tends to use it instead of instead of instead of the Mac so even without any propaganda and stuff he he seems to have switched
[speaker002:] is he interested in computers then did this give him an interest in it other than you know using it more as or less like a word a word processing machine he
[speaker001:] uh no I mean he sees it as a tool much as I do
[speaker002:] as a tool um-hum okay
[speaker001:] and um he no he's in international studies
[speaker002:] oh that sounds interesting too
[speaker001:] so he's basically you know whatever whatever the computer can do for you fine I'll learn enough to to make it work well for me but I'm not gonna be a guru
[speaker002:] uh-huh I understand that you have to have a certain I mean either you like them or you don't I think a lot of the people are afraid of them
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh are intimidated by them I guess more than anything until they get get to uh learn what they can do and and how it can work
[speaker001:] right but I think that is it is very frustrating because you know you're sure you did X
[speaker002:] so uh-huh
[speaker001:] and it just doesn't work and and so you tell somebody who knows about computers and they say no you obviously didn't do that because the computer doesn't doesn't balk
[speaker002:] that's right and even even using it as much as I do you know and you'd you'd oh well I did that I know I did that you know and then the results come back and no you didn't they catch you every time so anyway I guess you have to have a sense a humor too when you're working with them
[speaker001:] right and talk to them and yell at them
[speaker002:] so um-hum yell at them and like to choke them so many times I wanna choke mine say you're not doing what I want you to do
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] but uh I I have one mainly I bought it because I'm in uh taking a lot of courses along with work and it's very useful in that respect but I hope to do something more with it
[speaker001:] basically you're using it as a word processor you mean
[speaker002:] right exactly and it seems a shame to have all that equipment but uh not do anything with it but one day I hope to do more
[speaker001:] and what would you do
[speaker002:] I don't know I know there must be something more I can do with it but uh in my spare time someday I I hope to do something more with it I have a lot a ideas but putting them into work is another story
[speaker001:] um-hum right right
[speaker002:] so anyway
[speaker001:] well it's been very interesting
[speaker002:] well thank you very much for calling okay have a good day bye-bye
[speaker001:] okay you too bye-bye