[speaker001:] Okay Charles, uh, gun control, what are you, uh, for, in favor or no comment?
[speaker002:] I'm very much in favor of gun control.
[speaker001:] Oh, you are?
[speaker002:] Yes I am.
[speaker001:] Well, this should be very interesting,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] because I'm against it.
[speaker002:] I don't, I don't mind people owning guns, I just think it should be a little, you know, a little, a little more regulated.
[speaker001:] Well, you know, uh, now he-, here's something that, uh, first occurred to me when they started having all these problems with these automatic, uh, weapons.
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] Uh, now there always has been a federal law against fully automatic weapons.
[speaker002:] I believe that's correct, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, yet, their, uh, the gun control enthusiasts are, are, uh, preaching about the gun control and how they should be, we should have stronger laws and what not.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I don't understand why we don't enforce the laws we have.
[speaker002:] That would certainly help, I'm sure.
[speaker001:] Now this is not just a state law, this is a federal law,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] controlled by the Treasury Department.
[speaker002:] Yep.
[speaker001:] Uh, for fully automatic weapons.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, uh, all right, now for instance,
[speaker002:] [Breathing].
[speaker001:] in California where they passed the uh, uh, semiautomatic
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] or, or, uh, now what was it they called them? The military version, attack weapons,
[speaker002:] Yeah, right, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] or something? Uh, h-, how is that going to affect the, uh, sports weapons? I mean, rifles,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] that are automatic or semiautomatic?
[speaker002:] Yep. I really don't have any problem, Jack, with, you know, uh, people using firearms for sporting purposes. I don't have any problem, the only thing I, I am in favor of the seven-day waiting period. I would like to see that, see that happen. I,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, well, now, uh, I've got to admit I'm inclined to agree with you there
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] uh, even though I am a member of the N R A,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and they are again-, they, their reason being that well, if you let one little law get through, pretty soon one's going to stack up on top of another,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] and so forth and so on.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I understand that.
[speaker001:] And you've got to admit that Congress does kind of look at things that way.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, that's true. I, I, like I say, I don't have any problem with people using firearms, you know, for sporting purposes or hunting purposes, I just think it's just may be a little too easy you know, to acquire one.
[speaker001:] Uh,
[speaker002:] On, on a whim of some sort.
[speaker001:] That, that's true. Uh, now did you hear about the, the control that they have up in Virginia?
[speaker002:] I'm not sure I have.
[speaker001:] Uh, it, it's, it's a little hard to believe, but they can, uh, of course, like just like just about every other state in the union they have a felony law. Anyone ever convicted of a, a felony is, cannot purchase a weapon.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [Breathing] and they don't have a waiting period, [breathing] because they have access to computer records concerning all these felons.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And the-, uh, when you go in and buy a weapon or a handgun in, uh, uh, Virginia, [breathing] the salesman just calls some number and, uh, punches in your name, [breathing] and if it comes up negative, okay, fine, and you get your gwu-, your gun right then and there.
[speaker002:] I see.
[speaker001:] Uh, but they are the only state that does it.
[speaker002:] Hm, that's interesting.
[speaker001:] And, uh, according to Virginia, it didn't cost all that much.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [Breathing] and frankly, I, I don't understand why a state doesn't have those records available anyway.
[speaker002:] Yeah,
[speaker001:] Uh, uh, at least
[speaker002:] yeah, you would think they would.
[speaker001:] uh, records of, of, uh, known felons
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] which are available to local police departments.
[speaker002:] Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm surprised that more states doesn't do that.
[speaker001:] Uh, uh, uh, certainly those, those records are available,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and all they would have to do is expand it.
[speaker002:] Yeah, right.
[speaker001:] To, uh, uh, well, connect them into a modem somehow.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. I wouldn't think it'd be that difficult to do.
[speaker001:] Well, Virginia is not a particularly rich state, and they managed to fi-, squeak out a few bucks to do it.
[speaker002:] Yep, right.
[speaker001:] And, uh, it's, uh, uh, one-hundred percent successful.
[speaker002:] Hm, that's interesting.
[speaker001:] Yeah, I just heard about this last week.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Uh, they were bragging about it,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] with, uh, uh, they should have, have pride in this because it's, it's a good system,
[speaker002:] Absolutely.
[speaker001:] and it's working well.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I agree.
[speaker001:] And they don't need that seven-day waiting period.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Because the whole idea of that waiting period was,
[speaker002:] [Breathing].
[speaker001:] so that, uh, it, [breathing] uh, the police could check up on you.
[speaker002:] Yep.
[speaker001:] [Breathing] Well, you know what's going to happen there, those files are going to back up on somebody's desk, just some of that typical bureaucratic work.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] that's another, uh, uh, thorn in my side,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] bureaucratics,
[speaker002:] Yeah, right. I agree.
[speaker001:] politicians.
[speaker002:] Yep, right. I was,
[speaker001:] So anyway
[speaker002:] just thinking there's,
[speaker001:] well, we seem to be one in favor and one against.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] yeah, I guess that's about right,
[speaker001:] Although neither one of us are, are, uh, really uh, uh, dyed in the wool.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Uh,
[speaker001:] Uh, we, but we both,
[speaker002:] Yeah, I'm not totally rigid on the subject, I just think there should be, you know, shouldn't be quite so easy to do.
[speaker001:] [Breathing] well, there should be some way of checking,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] now here in, in Texas, uh, all you need is a driver's license.
[speaker002:] Right. Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, uh, even felons can still get a driver's license.
[speaker002:] Sure, uh,
[speaker001:] So I, I don't think they are too, well, they're not rigid enough here, in Texas.
[speaker002:] Yeah, that's true.
[speaker001:] But don't tell the N R A I said that.
[speaker002:] I wo-, I promise. I won't [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] They're liable to tear up my membership.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Okay, I promise [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] You say you retired a year ago?
[speaker002:] Yes, I did, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I'm looking forward to it in about a, just, just over a year, myself.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I really enjoy it.
[speaker001:] Uh,
[speaker002:] I stay pretty busy.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I do quite a, not quite a lot, I do some, uh, volunteer work here in Plano. I, I have a few, uh, handicapped persons that I, you know, try to do things for, help them do.
[speaker001:] Oh, uh-huh. Well, uh, I bought a motor home here f-, four years ago
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and I have been living in it ever since,
[speaker002:] That's, uh,
[speaker001:] and I'm looking forward to just traveling.
[speaker002:] Sure, I can understand that.
[speaker001:] I have four sons scattered all over the country,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and a f-, few grandchildren.
[speaker002:] Yep.
[speaker001:] And I'm looking forward to just traveling around visiting them.
[speaker002:] That'd be neat. Sure would.
[speaker001:] [Breathing] Well Charles, good luck to you on your,
[speaker002:] Okay.
[speaker001:] [Breathing].
[speaker002:] Nice talking to you.
[speaker001:] Yeah, nice talking to you,
[speaker002:] Okay.
[speaker001:] too.
[speaker002:] Take care.
[speaker001:] Take care now.
[speaker002:] Bye-bye.
[speaker001:] Bye.