[speaker001:] camping um I've been to several different kinds of camping when I I've been to a girls camp where we slept you know in tents and there were a bunch of girls and cooked over the fire and I've also uh been camping in a camper trailer or or on a uh with a truck and a and a camper um when I was younger I really enjoyed going in the in the the trailer I didn't realize until I was older how much how much work there was involved for the for the parents of the camping um are you have what kind of camping have you participated in
[speaker002:] uh I'm a boy scout leader so we we go camping every month
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] you know just you know tent camping of I never really camped in you know in a motor home or a trailer
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] it's always been in a tent
[speaker001:] so when you go do you go to to designated camping sites or just up in the mountains or
[speaker002:] just no no the the the boy scouts have their own you know ranches
[speaker001:] well no mountains there uh-huh
[speaker002:] that they own and they've got park rangers that run them
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] and that you know they've got campsites set up and latrines and water and all for the boys
[speaker001:] oh so you you don't really have to rough it too bad huh
[speaker002:] no we we bring our own cooking gear you know the the boys split them up in patrols and they cook their own food and stuff
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh do you do you cook over an open fire or do you have the little camp stoves
[speaker002:] uh we we usually cook over an open fire we've we've got camp stoves in you know in case it's if wood is too wet or something but
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh have you ever done Dutch oven cooking while you're camping
[speaker002:] yeah uh yes we we've cooked stews and cobblers and biscuits and
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] in fact every every time I go I end up having to cook biscuits for breakfast in a Dutch oven so
[speaker001:] oh you must be an expert huh oh
[speaker002:] well just a lot of practice
[speaker001:] oh yeah I've had um we go my family once a year goes up to the in the mountains around here it's to a place called Cup River and and camp out with the family and also a family reunion type thing and my uncle makes uh potatoes and onions in the in the in the Dutch ovens and they are sure good I so I don't know how to cook that way but it's
[speaker002:] yeah we
[speaker001:] I've liked the things I've tasted
[speaker002:] we do that for breakfast sometimes
[speaker001:] oh do you set up your own you take your own tents you say and
[speaker002:] uh yeah the the boy scout troop owns enough has enough tents for the boys you know two man tents one for each boy
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and then a couple leaders have big tents that most of the adults you know sleep together in them
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] and sometimes sometimes we rough it we went there's a lake called Lake Texoma on a Texas Oklahoma border
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and we took the boys backpacking there that they didn't have any you know facilities or anything and we
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] each we packed in our tents we packed in our own groceries our own water and stuff
[speaker001:] oh wow oh wow so you have to
[speaker002:] and boy
[speaker001:] take everything you need and do they did you just find a place that you liked and decided to set up camp there or
[speaker002:] it's it's a it's a state park
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] so we just you know had to check with the ranger and tell him where we was going we had a map and all
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] we had the boys the boys hiked in I guess about five miles
[speaker001:] oh wow
[speaker002:] and we set up camp and you know spent a night and
[speaker001:] uh-huh do the boys like that kind of better or do they like to just go where it's close and the facilities there
[speaker002:] oh they they seem to like the roughing because they want to go again next month
[speaker001:] oh next month in December oh I keep forgetting you're it's not as cold there as it is here oh well I when I was a fourth year uh
[speaker002:] yeah no it's
[speaker001:] girl scout camper we we hiked into a spot and that was um by a lake and it was beautiful and I almost think that's you feel more rewarded when you when you do it that way than when you drive in with uh other stuff it is a lot more work though
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] it takes a lot more so did you camp when you were growing up or is this something you've just done as a result
[speaker002:] uh I was in scouts as a kid so you know I've gotten when camp with kids I've gotten used to it and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh my wife was from Mississippi out in the country and she's her family camps they you know they spend they spend a week on a lake fishing and stuff uh
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] in fact a few years ago we on Labor Day weekend we went into the Arbuckle Mountains in Oklahoma
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] took three days we camped at a different site each day
[speaker001:] oh how nice
[speaker002:] and that was enjoyable
[speaker001:] boy that sounds like it sounds like it was a a nice trip huh I yeah I have lots of good memories when we always used to take a week in the summer my family and have lots of good memories of sitting around the campfire and marshmallows and ghost stories