[speaker001:] uh uh uh from my father
[speaker002:] oh really huh
[speaker001:] yeah he had he had given me the information and I said hm that's interesting so I thought I'd uh get involved and see what's going on with it
[speaker002:] yeah kind of curious because um some people found about it on the computer network others yeah
[speaker001:] oh is that right so they have a bulletin out on it
[speaker002:] yeah on the uh uh there's a network around like around the world and uh there's a Telecom Digest
[speaker001:] oh okay huh interesting um I guess uh the topic we're talking about did they introduce the topic on your side
[speaker002:] yeah taxes
[speaker001:] yeah and whether we're getting enough for the income and all that stuff
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] okay this the first time I've done this so um um we'll just
[speaker002:] yeah hold on a sec I'm on a I'm on a cordless it's giving me some trouble
[speaker001:] oh you are
[speaker002:] jeez  that make it better
[speaker001:] uh all set
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] okay now what what do we do just press one and go for it
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] this is kind of weird um all right um uh what what do you want to do as a prompt for the question
[speaker002:] um oh you you didn't press it yet did you no okay um I don't know see uh
[speaker001:] no
[speaker002:] I'm a student I don't pay much in taxes except for when I work that's a little bit yeah
[speaker001:] oh you're a student oh okay
[speaker002:] um hm
[speaker001:] uh why don't I ask you the question um you know uh I don't know um being uh do I'll just ask you know do do you think income taxes work for this country or should we have a broad base tax
[speaker002:] a broad base tax in terms of
[speaker001:] of everybody just pays a flat rate
[speaker002:] okay I have an answer for that
[speaker001:] ten percent what
[speaker002:] I have an answer for that
[speaker001:] okay all right I'll talk to you in a bit hold okay uh I'll just press one okay here we go
[speaker002:] yeah okay go ahead yeah
[speaker001:] okay right I guess I guess I'm just wondering uh what your thoughts are on taxes uh um do you think that we should just have a kind of a broad based tax or just uh or do you like it the way it's set up now
[speaker002:] um I think a progressive tax the way it is now is is good um taxing uh those people with more money uh taxing them a little more I mean those people who can afford to pay it out I mean there it wouldn't be fair to um like with say lower class people who don't make as much money
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] to uh pay out the same amount of taxes as someone making millions of dollars
[speaker001:] well yeah I suppose that's I suppose that's true in I I guess I'm more for kind of a just a across the board tax because that way everybody would pay the same a rate that's equal to what they were doing I mean if somebody only made ten thousand dollars a year and it was a ten percent tax they're paying a thousand dollars whereas if somebody's making a million dollars a year
[speaker002:] yeah okay
[speaker001:] uh you know what I mean they're paying a hundred thousand dollars in taxes
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] as opposed to which what it seems like now which is you know these guys get away with uh all these tax breaks and everything else like that that apply to them but they don't apply to the little guys so it seems like the all the taxes you know taxes are being paid by everybody else seems kind of crazy
[speaker002:] so you're saying um ten percent let's say a broad base ten percent tax uh without any loopholes or
[speaker001:] yeah exactly exactly just everybody pays ten percent that's it and then nobody has to worry about whether you know I get this and I get that and uh you know or this person gets a tax break but this person doesn't when this person makes that much more money
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I mean that way you know somebody that's uh that's making uh ten million dollars pays a million bucks in taxes they um uh see I guess the problem with that is are they really using their fair share
[speaker002:] is who
[speaker001:] of the person that pays that many that much more taxes
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but then again they have as much use to the of the system as everybody
[speaker002:] right hm I yeah I see the I see the logic behind that
[speaker001:] I don't know if that that would make sense I guess uh I guess what people do I guess the government's incentive now is to create incentives so that people will do more I guess house building or buying homes or you know because of they give them break tax break on their interest because I have a break on our interest I mean all our our all our mortgage interest is deductible
[speaker002:] yeah right
[speaker001:] um but it doesn't seem like they do a damn good job with the uh uh with the way they're spending the taxes
[speaker002:] to hm yeah promote borrowing with tax breaks promote investment yeah
[speaker001:] exactly I mean they only just recently got rid of the interest uh that was deductible on credit cards and car loans and things like that
[speaker002:] right personal tax
[speaker001:] yeah but the major borrowing is still there I mean you know on mortgages and things like that uh although I don't think that we could afford our house without having that uh mortgage deduction
[speaker002:] hm right
[speaker001:] um you know it actually cuts down four hundred bucks a month
[speaker002:] I think that  think something like that luxury tax was a mistake did they did they repeal that yet
[speaker001:] I don't know that's a good question I I don't know whether they did or not
[speaker002:] because I mean yeah you're uh trying to get back at trying to sort of maybe punish I don't know the rich and make them pay some more but it what happened was the the result was that uh sales went down in yachts and those kind of things
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and so the little guy who works for those that employer