[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] yeah how many children do you have
[speaker001:] I have four
[speaker002:] and I have three what do you have boys girls
[speaker001:] I have uh three boys and one girl the girl's adopted
[speaker002:] I have uh-huh I have two girls and one boy
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] do you have grandchildren yet
[speaker001:] uh yeah I got two grandchildren
[speaker002:] oh I got ahead of you there I got three and one on the way no but uh I know when my children were growing up we did spend a lot of time together
[speaker001:] yeah uh
[speaker002:] uh school activities and my my boy was in hockey
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and of course the girls uh and and uh myself we rooted you know we didn't participate but we did a lot of family things together
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] we had animals for the children you know our horses and that kind of thing and uh school activities type stuff
[speaker001:] yeah yeah my kids were involved in sports
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] football and baseball and
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] whatever
[speaker002:] did you find the time to attend
[speaker001:] but uh oh yeah
[speaker002:] oh yeah we did too
[speaker001:] when they were growing up we did we were out in the middle of a desert out in Ridgecrest California
[speaker002:] I think that's kind of the key don't you
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] I think that's kind of the key
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] is to not be in the big city
[speaker001:] yeah there wasn't a lot of other things for them to do
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and uh so when when they participated in sports or whatever well uh all nearly all the parents went
[speaker002:] and yep we did that too and the children where um when in fact when my youngest was about two we decided to get out of the city and go to the country
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I mean it's not as vast a country as like you know where you people are from because I lived in Abilene for a little while
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and uh I know what nothing is when I moved out there
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know it the city itself is great but I mean you go in the in the uh car for a drive and you could see nothing for miles and miles and miles
[speaker001:] we came back when they were teenagers
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and of course uh then they came to the big city as teenagers and that the time with them wasn't as much as it was when they were out there in the small
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] town out in the middle of the desert
[speaker002:] uh-huh but they at least they had the background
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and the the home uh the family type unit you know and I think when kids have that they don't get into as much trouble or seek to
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know do other things that are really not good for them you know
[speaker001:] yeah gosh our our kids were fortunate they had good good other kids to play with
[speaker002:] yep same here
[speaker001:] uh maybe it's not like it is nowadays really when there's so much uh some drugs and everything else
[speaker002:] no no I know I'm so happy that I had mine had mine when I did and that I'm not having them now I think about it
[speaker001:] yeah I would not want to raise a a child today
[speaker002:] no no
[speaker001:] from scratch you know from start
[speaker002:] and plus I think that the uh mothers the husbands and wives both having to work
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's not a matter of choice anymore I think most people
[speaker001:] no it's a necessity
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] it's a
[speaker002:] and uh it that takes so much time away from your kids
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I well uh
[speaker002:] of course at the at the time I worked third shift to be with my kids during the day
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know and then uh my uh husband was with them at night
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] so they were always with a family member you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and babysitters and uh day care and all that stuff kids don't really bond anymore
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] the mother's aren't there
[speaker001:] well I I I told my wife that uh I don't know what young kids just starting out nowadays especially if they have uh have some children if if they're trying to buy a house both of them have to work in order to pay for a house
[speaker002:] oh yeah yep
[speaker001:] uh and the kids really spend more time at school or with a babysitter then they do with their parents
[speaker002:] exactly but you know uh I wonder by the time they get through paying out for all the day care center and everything else is it really worth all that
[speaker001:] yep
[speaker002:] rather than to wait until the children are like in school
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and then go for that type of goal I think that too many people want everything now
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I told
[speaker002:] like we had to save and plan and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] do without and that kind of stuff where it's now the credit cards and
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I mean they just go and buy it you know
[speaker001:] yeah well kids nowadays they want to start out with a
[speaker002:] exact
[speaker001:] three bedroom brick house
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] and when we started out well we started out in first of all in an apartment and then rented a a duplex
[speaker002:] exactly sure
[speaker001:] and then went from a duplex to a little old two bedroom frame house
[speaker002:] that's my point and and I think that they should like learn how to crawl before they walk
[speaker001:] but uh uh-huh
[speaker002:] it's it's too much it and it's too accessible
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and they get into it and they're over their heads I think that's why there's so many divorces too
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] because the money becomes uh an issue the children become an issue the jobs become an issue and it's like you know what's left
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] just to argue and that type of thing you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh I'm I'm I really feel for young parents nowadays
[speaker002:] I do I do
[speaker001:] I I just don't uh see how
[speaker002:] they're like between a rock and a hard spot
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it really is awful I think maybe the company should do more with day care centers and that type of thing it might bring families closer
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] or mothers to children you know because they're able to spend some time
[speaker001:] yeah they brought that up at TI I don't know how many times to to uh have a day care
[speaker002:] at yeah
[speaker001:] for working mothers but uh TI never has seen fit to do it
[speaker002:] no huh
[speaker001:] but there are a few companies here in Dallas that do
[speaker002:] yeah I think that's great because I mean you know you you it's less guilt you feel knowing that you have to leave them everyday if you can go in and see them for ten or fifteen minutes around a lunch hour or
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] just know they're close by
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know it's it's very hard well it was nice chatting with you
[speaker001:] well do you work at a Attleboro or does your or your husband
[speaker002:] yes I do I do no I do
[speaker001:] oh you do
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] I work in uh building twelve in Attleboro
[speaker001:] oh well of course I always see see uh Attleboro mission on teen news and everything else but
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] never been up there
[speaker002:] oh you should come it's it's a it's a nice place in the summertime though don't come in the winter
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I started to say what what's the temperature up there now
[speaker002:] right now we're in the thirties
[speaker001:] in the thirties
[speaker002:] and we're expecting a snowstorm tomorrow into Friday
[speaker001:] oh boy
[speaker002:] possibly Saturday
[speaker001:] oh me
[speaker002:] so it's supposed to be real bad driving tomorrow afternoon
[speaker001:] well we're supposed to get rain but no snow but we're we're in the sixties and seventies in the daytime
[speaker002:] oh that's terrible I'm jealous
[speaker001:] we
[speaker002:] no I it it's well this is the month where it's very unsettled because March is like between winter and spring out here it's like one minute you've got winter weather the next minute you have spring like weather everybody's got a cold
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you don't know how to dress you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] so it's kind of tough and they say that the driving tomorrow is supposed to be really bad in the afternoon
[speaker001:] well the colds and the flu have been going around down here
[speaker002:] have they
[speaker001:] oh man I'm telling you everybody's and I think it's really the weather it will it will get warm one day and then not real cold but pretty cool the next day and then warm the next day
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and it's just uh plus there's been an awfully lot of uh uh mountain cedar and everything else in the air
[speaker002:] oh wow
[speaker001:] and it's really driving people with sinuses crazy and
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] and sore throats and colds and whatever
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well uh I I can tell by your accent that you're a Texan and you know I miss hearing that they used to make fun of me because of being you know my accent
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] they they try to get me to say things because they they thought I talked so funny but you sound just like um the the children that I worked with up there the same type of voice
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I remember I remember when I was out at Ridgecrest somebody had a flat and uh I asked them I said do you have a tire tool in the in the trunk and he said a what and I said a tire tool he said you mean a T A R tool and I said no a T I R E tool
[speaker002:] yeah right like oil or oil that's true well listen it was nice speaking with you
[speaker001:] yeah nice talking to you Irene and you stay warm up there
[speaker002:] okay Jim
[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] take care
[speaker001:] bye-bye
[speaker002:] bye-bye