[speaker002:] well if you're from Iowa you must be very artsy-craftsy everyone I've ever known from the Midwest can do everything with their hands
[speaker001:] okay oh well actually I'm from California and before then I was from Utah so
[speaker002:] I didn't know anyone ever moved from California to Kansas Iowa
[speaker001:] well I grew up in California and then I went to school in Utah and I got married there and we stayed there for a while and then now we're in Utah Iowa
[speaker002:] I'm teasing only because I'm from Indiana I really liked I like the Midwest
[speaker001:] oh really  oh
[speaker002:] but I married a Texan and they have a way of dragging you back home anyway we're supposed to be talking about crafts do you um do you have any hobbies that that you do things with your hands like knitting or
[speaker001:] um well I crochet and I do water color and I um sew and I do fabric painting
[speaker002:] oh you do a lot then do you do needlepoint also and cross stitching
[speaker001:] um I've done some cross stitching I haven't tried any needlepoint yet how about you
[speaker002:] um actually I I'm pretty untalented I used to do a lot of knitting and crocheting um
[speaker001:] oh right
[speaker002:] but I I don't know somehow I I don't have the time anymore but I have all these friends that wherever you go they they sit down and the next thing you know they pull out of their um bags some their most recent uh needle craft
[speaker001:] oh really
[speaker002:] and in December everyone was doing stockings you know these gorgeous detailed minute tiny stitch stockings
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh God oh yeah well those take a lot of time I only can do things that are pretty fast because
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] we just um got our baby last year and I just don't have the patience to just you know be some uh-huh
[speaker002:] is this your first baby have you crocheted or knitted any baby clothes or baby blankets
[speaker001:] um I crocheted an afghan for our bed that's the only thing and and I did a quilt let's see I've done a quilt for our baby and I've done a quilt for our bed but I mean
[speaker002:] did you embroidery the pattern and then quilt it yourself or
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] how how did you make a quilt
[speaker001:] um our baby's quilt it was a pre like the design I just went around the design in the quilt I didn't piece it or anything like that
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but uh
[speaker002:] but you actually hand quilted it yourself
[speaker001:] uh-huh and just
[speaker002:] did did you need a loom or were you able was it small enough that you could just hold it
[speaker001:] um I put it on the frame the quilting frame have you are you familiar with that yeah okay
[speaker002:] uh-huh but um my again my mother back in Indiana we had a quilting frame in our basement and she would she would quilt whole quilts by herself
[speaker001:] oh my God
[speaker002:] um yes which I was always amazed I have one of them um but uh you know to have the quilting frame and then to actually do that it's a tremendous amount of work
[speaker001:] well I haven't done tons of them but um I used to do more before um before I had before we got our baby but
[speaker002:] have you think children you can um use crafts to make wonderful things for children
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I think when babies I think afghans and and the crocheted little sweaters and are are wonderful and and they'll wear them once they get old enough to talk then they no longer will wear your
[speaker001:] yeah exactly well one thing that I like about this fabric painting thing is I can just make a T-shirt and put a little ruffle around it and then um cut out a little pattern from the material from some material like flowers or something and make um a design or you know a little arrangement or something on the shirt and you know fuse it on with Heat and Bond or whatever and then paint around it and I usually sew sew around the flower whatever first and then I paint around it so you can't see the stitching as much does does that make sense to you
[speaker002:] oh yes I think it's very clever it's uh funny that you said for Christmas my daughter and I received matching sweat shirts that a friend had made for ours a beautiful Christmas design and they were matching and they were lovely
[speaker001:] so oh
[speaker002:] but when I washed them although I took the precaution of turning them inside out I really didn't do anything else and truly everything fell off or most of it so I had I went and bought just some
[speaker001:] oh sure uh-huh oh really
[speaker002:] cloth glue and glued it all back and I bought the paint and redid most of the edges and and it was salvageable and I
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] but it's so I'm familiar with that but I think you're very clever to um sew around the edges I think gluing alone certainly if you wash it any amount of time it tends to kind of come loose at the edges
[speaker001:] well yeah someone told me that that it that they had done it both ways and I've always after hearing that I always sewed it on even even with the uh a loose zigzag even helps and um