[speaker001:] okay where were where were you from
[speaker002:] um just here in Dallas
[speaker001:] oh okay because I uh I talked to a professor in uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] what was it North Carolina who got the the TI system and he gave to all his students so my daughter's even talked to and I've talked to several people from North Carolina I was just curious
[speaker002:] that's yes yes that's true I've talked uh-huh people from Virginia and and all over yeah
[speaker001:] have you too yeah I talked to the professor and I asked him about it and he said oh he says I think I'm the guy that actually uh gave it to all my students so that's why so many people are from this college uh go ahead you you first
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh okay um well the subject we're supposed to be talking about let's see is uh food
[speaker001:] food
[speaker002:] what type of foods do do you cook and what would you uh cook in uh uh let's see if you were giving a dinner party and the only reason why I may know a little bit about this is that I'm planning on having a barbecue pretty soon and to me that's the type of thing that I like to
[speaker001:] oh great
[speaker002:] give in um uh cooking for people and uh if he's cooking outside where it's cooler and uh you don't have to do all that much work you know you just uh slap on some food and slap on some barbecue sauce and away you go
[speaker001:] yeah we have them too and I I'm trying to think which is the best uh that I prefer uh my wife uh doesn't like to have all that work on the very day that you're doing it uh and we haven't catered out very much uh we would I always worry about the barbecue in that you have to be the man always gets that chore and you have to make it perfect uh I've made shish kabob which I like it's fairly easy and fast
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh where I guess I'm thinking of the easy thing to do
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] for for having uh uh a dinner
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I do cook but not I'm mostly the easy cooker you know the breakfasts and and the steaks uh although I would like to experiment with uh
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] the meals my mother made you know so to speak and I haven't gotten around to that yet uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh what kind of meals did she make that you liked
[speaker001:] well she was Polish and uh she would make very economical meals we were very poor different rice and ham and things that uh she would throw things together
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker001:] and galunkies and all that and uh I would like to try that one day and she would make spaghetti with pork chops and and special meat balls and everything and my wife of course thinks I'm crazy which I may be too but uh
[speaker002:] huh no sounds interesting uh-huh yeah that's great
[speaker001:] yeah but dinner parties are a lot of work uh
[speaker002:] yeah yeah but uh that's that's why I like the the outdoor stuff a a lot better people can entertain themselves I think a great deal
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] more uh when you have a barbecue especially when you have hot dogs and hamburgers and uh you know nothing really fancy like your your shish kebabs where you have to do a whole bunch of work
[speaker001:] yeah yeah well that that shish kabob is uh just because it only takes a few minutes to cook you know you get it ready you have to do a lot of work beforehand I agree and buy special stuff but uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so far as getting out there and and putting it on it only takes a little a few minutes uh but anyway I'm I'm thinking of the easy way rather than my guests I guess but uh
[speaker002:] right  yeah yeah well I I think you do do a lot of work even if people do bring over things you still do uh all the uh housework and get everything everything prepared and utensils and just just everything
[speaker001:] right right
[speaker002:] uh but you know my mother used to make an Armenian rice dish I'm thinking about uh special dishes and uh yeah it was made out of rice and consume soup uh and bacon and onions
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah oh yeah
[speaker002:] and then you'd simmer it like all day long
[speaker001:] right you'd get the odor of it yeah
[speaker002:] oh it would because yeah and it was just it was just wonderful that's that's something that I would really like to uh to try and find the recipe for but we used to have that at Thanksgiving time
[speaker001:] uh-huh yes
[speaker002:] because you can you can put it on top of the stove and do this and and there's so much broth and juice in there that it has to uh soak up into the rice all day long in order for it to uh uh to come out fluffy and and nice
[speaker001:] oh great
[speaker002:] and that was you know when you were talking about the the Polish dishes uh some goulashes and things like that that's uh that's what I thought about was that Armenian rice dish
[speaker001:] oh yes we probably ought to try this but it probably will never taste as good as we remembered I guess it gets better and better as we remember it back as we get older you know but we probably should try it uh to do that
[speaker002:] that's true that's true
[speaker001:] the recipes are really interesting you know we're probably going to lose them we'll probably forget all about them you know since we're trying to make everything so simple here I am talk about trying to make everything easy you know
[speaker002:] um-hum right right
[speaker001:] I uh you talked about Thanksgiving there are interesting meals at different times uh something see my wife's from Texas so uh remember we were first married and we were living in New Jersey and uh we were going over to my mother's house for Christmas you know to have a meal and we were on the way over we were just married that very year and she said oh I'm looking forward to a nice turkey I said turkey I said we don't have turkey at Christmas I said we only have turkey on Thanksgiving I said we're going to have a ham she said what
[speaker002:] um-hum  oh uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] I said yeah I said no turkey is only for Thanksgiving and because she had turkey a lot you know and uh that was surprising in the in the east uh we always had ham you know
[speaker002:] uh-huh right right
[speaker001:] and and and that's one thing also that's another recipe I guess we could talk about now the hams just kind of you know go take it out of a can or or uh a package sliced uh the cans were cooked for hours and hours and and were just wonderful you know I I'd like to try that too
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh yeah you know what I found was at Sam's uh wholesale uh stores and uh what they have is this honey baked ham that have you seen have you had any of those
[speaker001:] yeah oh yeah I saw them that's good no I I uh I I've I know about but I think goes
[speaker002:] if if you ever get a chance to buy one of those I think it was uh twenty dollars for uh I don't remember how many pounds it was but you cook it in the bag that they send it in and all the juices and everything are all sealed in and I tell you what if
[speaker001:] um-hum oh really
[speaker002:] it's never failed to come out tender and juicy and just and just delicious because I normally don't like ham because it's so salty
[speaker001:] oh I haven't heard of that yeah yeah
[speaker002:] but with this honey bake that they have that that's the only one I have been able to find there at Sam's warehouse it is absolutely delicious and it slices great um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] oh yeah I'll have to ask her about that uh because we have a delivery guy that comes around that sells I can't think of his name of it uh I don't know I see a can here or a box here Gourmet Choice uh he delivers uh what is the name of this thing I got a box where is it distributed marsh it doesn't say Gourmet Choices but he but it's a company that has uh you know a truck that comes around and and they recently had hams they have steaks and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh actually pierogies and all that stuff that uh I I never I wish I could tell you the name of the company but I don't know what it is but uh they recently had a ham that was supposed to be it was boneless and we tried it it was real nice and it was fully cooked and everything we had it for breakfast a long time it was really great
[speaker002:] uh-huh um-hum wow you know that sounds like it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but that's that's the only ham I have found that I thoroughly thoroughly enjoy
[speaker001:] I would like to try the old recipe though of cooking it and and I keep saying this uh to to do the different things that we did but I would like to put one in the oven you know the old fashioned way and put it in there for hours and hours and see if because I don't think in in my married life which is uh twenty six years now we've never done that you know and I remember that when I was a kid uh to have the ham cooking uh rather than that we just ham is just something you have for breakfast occasionally you know and that's it you know
[speaker002:] wow um-hum right
[speaker001:] in the old days we had hams were the meal and I don't I don't think we really have it as a main meal
[speaker002:] right that's true I I don't think so anymore not with more becoming more conscious of uh fat and cholesterol and and all those good things
[speaker001:] right yeah that's an interesting point how how have you changed your your meals now have you into that uh looking at those things
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh yeah well my parents actually started it and uh getting
[speaker001:] uh-huh parents that's unusual
[speaker002:] well it it's true I think my parents are very unusual because uh we grew up in the south where uh you have all the um you know biscuits and gravy and oh fried foods galore and then gradually they started switching over to um plain rice um
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] no gravy it's just it really is they uh they're actually they actually uh uh led us through it versus um
[speaker001:] that's amazing
[speaker002:] us teaching them you know the uh the finer points but my mother has really high cholesterol so it was one of the reasons which started them off and they started doing this like in the early or in about the middle seventies uh yeah
[speaker001:] yeah well that's amazing they'd go that they have started usually it's the younger people doing it yeah
[speaker002:] it's true it's true I agree with you so it's really neat
[speaker001:] I uh my my wife's mother is the only grandparent left and uh she has high cholesterol of course I have I have too but not like hers
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and I always get after her about salt and everything else and she just will I mean she's going to eat the same way she ate you know her whole life and she just tells more or less tells me to shut up you know
[speaker002:] that's right right
[speaker001:] and uh I like to I'm trying to do something about my cholesterol in the same way uh
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] uh it's it's not the I listen to uh Larry Newarth on the weekend he's a fitness expert and uh he talks about you know the chicken and the rice and everything else and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh throwing away peanut butter and all the things things not to eat you know ever I think the peanut butter and mayonnaise he would throw away forever and then he's got me into making eggs without the yolk
[speaker002:] wow um-hum
[speaker001:] you know try that sometime my wife says she can't stand it but uh when I make scrambled eggs now talking about a recipe
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I say if I have four eggs not not for me but if I'm making four eggs uh even for my daughter and I I'll take out all the yolks but one
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] and it's fine you you don't miss it uh in fact when I when I make eggs for myself
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] if I if I fry them throw them in there I will almost hard fry them so I can take not eat the yolk at all
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] and you don't really miss it you get the flavor of the yolk but uh you don't eat it at all you know you don't or hardly you get like uh a bite at at the the most
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and so uh for cholesterol I mean I'm trying that and it has worked my cholesterol gone down twenty points uh although
[speaker002:] wow that's good
[speaker001:] I haven't gotten on the which whether was it butter or cholesterol not cholesterol margarine and all that I don't know know whether any of that is true you know whether the margarines are butter
[speaker002:] uh-huh