[speaker001:] all right
[speaker002:] have you ever been drug tested
[speaker001:] um that's a good question um I had a job I had to go get a blood test for
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] um and they and they did a full blood screen on me but they didn't call that a drug test so that I think they checked for drugs they just don't tell you they did
[speaker002:] yeah I had I've had uh two or three drug tests that I had to get before I could start working at a job
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh different jobs I had one at TI and then one at another engineering company and really I mean I don't mind them I don't do drugs anyway I guess if I did maybe I would but um I don't know I know a girl that she's a nurse and they get drug tested randomly I've never been randomly drug tested
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but that would probably bother me to wake up one day and find out halfway through the day that you're going to be drug tested and you didn't know about it
[speaker001:] yeah well I guess it depends on if you got something to worry about
[speaker002:] yeah I guess so
[speaker001:] I guess so
[speaker002:] do you think that it's right
[speaker001:] well uh uh I I come from kind of a biased opinion because I'm a a therapist and a drug and alcohol counselor
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I've done employee assistant work and I I know the the kind of cost businesses go through in terms of accidents on the job
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that are specifically drug and alcohol related and it's like in the billions of dollars every year
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] um and the the only way that they can prevent that is is you know making sure that the employees are drug and alcohol free
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] and you know the the problem in the work place is that that people are like if your boss is your drinking buddy or whatever I mean you can come to come to work drunk and get in an accident and he'll cover up for you and nobody knows about it but could you know ends up costing the company lots and lots of money
[speaker002:] right that's true
[speaker001:] so you know there
[speaker002:] I believe it's right especially for certain jobs I think anyone in a in a public job like bus drivers and cab drivers and police officers and things like that I think they should be randomly drug tested I believe full force in that
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah yeah
[speaker002:] I don't know that I believe every secretary in every company needs to be
[speaker001:] true
[speaker002:] you know secretaries aren't aren't really going to cost the company that much money if they fall face forward in their typewriter or something so I don't know I I'm kind of biased too because I don't do drugs and so I really don't care one way or another if anybody wants to pull me up tomorrow and test me because I have nothing to worry about
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] so I guess that's kind of biased
[speaker001:] yeah well and it's I I think one of the problems with it is it affects a lot of other folks on the job
[speaker002:] yeah it does
[speaker001:] if somebody else is impaired because generally you know it um you find out one way or another if somebody's got a problem on the job
[speaker002:] yeah that's true
[speaker001:] and if even even if like you say even if it's just the secretary if her work or abilities start affecting her coworkers then it it's still a problem
[speaker002:] yeah that's true
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] but what do you do about the occasional user that may have gone to a party three days before and you know it's it's been the whole weekend since they've done anything and they happen to be tested Monday morning and they could be fired for that you know that that's kind of unfair also
[speaker001:] well yeah I guess it comes with the turf
[speaker002:] yeah I guess so I guess if you're going to do it you need to suffer the consequences
[speaker001:] yeah and then you're in in in terms of drugs they're illegal so you're
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] you're breaking the law anyway
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] um probably the the biggest problem with those is they don't do a real good job of of assessing for alcohol
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] and that's probably the biggest problem there is
[speaker002:] yeah I think so more than drugs and I know a lot of companies that will put you in an alcohol rehabilitation before they would put you in a drug rehab
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] they would pay for an alcohol but they don't always pay for drug rehabilitation
[speaker001:] uh-huh well I guess that's one of the positive things that has has come out of it some of the employee assistance program if you do test positive for something
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] they will give you an opportunity opportunity opportunity to go get your life straight rather than to lose your job
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] and I think
[speaker002:] I think that's fair
[speaker001:] yeah and I think the benefits the company benefits in the long run
[speaker002:] yeah that's true that's about all I have to say on it
[speaker001:] what what kind of testing do they do when you went
[speaker002:] uh it's a urine test and they uh
[speaker001:] urine screen yeah
[speaker002:] it was really very official you have to go in a room solely by yourself sign papers that say you were totally alone sign papers that say this is yours and and you have to fill the bottle yourself and label it yourself and all of that so that they're sure that you haven't borrowed anybody's I guess or something
[speaker001:] uh-huh well that happens
[speaker002:] yeah I know I can't it's hard to believe but I guess it does
[speaker001:] it happens a lot there there are people that know pay other people for that
[speaker002:] I know I'm amazed at the things people will do
[speaker001:] to help them out  yeah
[speaker002:] it is amazing I guess there are people that do that and they are those are expensive tests I'm glad I never had to pay for one
[speaker001:] yeah yeah it depends really really really on how how strong a test it is they've got different degrees as far as as how far back they can check
[speaker002:] yeah I guess so
[speaker001:] they got some unusual things besides blood and urine tests they've they've got some companies that are doing um hair tests
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] yeah well that they'll pull out one of your hairs and they can apparently test um back a certain period of time
[speaker002:] how weird I didn't know that
[speaker001:] um because um some of the the residue ends up in your hair follicles you know it's kind of
[speaker002:] oh that's weird
[speaker001:] hair follicles I guess are just dead protein and they
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and it it's apparently almost almost like a a calendar they they've got it pretty precise now that they can go back and look at in terms of growth in a hair when you used and and that type of thing
[speaker002:] that's wild
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] it's amazing the things they can find out from different things on your body
[speaker001:] yeah so I guess if they perfect that and then it's not quite as cumbersome as having to go fill a bottle or give blood or something like that
[speaker002:] yeah that's true  that's true I'm glad I never had to do that by giving blood I can't stand the thought of giving blood
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I can't even do it for Wadley even though it's a good cause
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] well I enjoyed talking to you
[speaker001:] well I did too
[speaker002:] thank you
[speaker001:] uh-huh bye bye
[speaker002:] bye bye