[speaker001:] how's the quality of air in Portland
[speaker002:] very good
[speaker001:] really
[speaker002:] uh well let me put it this way it's it's relatively uh it's very good if if you are a little bit away from the city and it's and it's wonderful on days that it rains
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but uh downtown they have a few problems but it's
[speaker001:] um-hum probably a lot of ozone lot of smog
[speaker002:] but it's fairly localized it's not like uh Los Angeles where I used to live
[speaker001:] yeah it oh yeah I've heard that Los Angeles is horrible and Denver is I hear is really bad
[speaker002:] yes yes uh
[speaker001:] Atlanta's Atlanta's moderately bad um you know we have we have a big problem with ozone um and you know it's generally you know it's it it's quite often you know be a very hazy sort of day you know because there'll just be this pollution hanging in the air um I think a lot I think well I think most of our problems caused by automobile emissions because you know it's a very you know mobile city
[speaker002:] it I guess that's the the major problem with most cities except except places like uh
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[speaker002:] oh Mexico City or some place like that well I guess it's it's a problem there too but but they do have some places where that's caused by power plants and and stuff like that
[speaker001:] um-hum hm um-hum of heavy industry yeah I think I think the has been you know relatively good about um you know having regulations at least in the last twenty years or so about industry industry pollution but it just seems that I think I think I think we really suffer because you know we don't have any sort of an organized mass transit system any sort of you know like high speed rail or even you know even even you know decent regular passenger rail across the country um it seems it seems like like there's a lot you know there's a lot there's a lot more federal subsidies for automobile you know for through through the construction through the construction of highways for automobiles
[speaker002:] yeah although there is one thing that I uh I learned in in
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] chemistry many years ago and that's uh I don't know are are you a chemist
[speaker001:] hm I know a little bit of chemistry
[speaker002:] okay anyway this is principle called Le Chatelier's principal as I remember and it's basically uh uh when you have uh a reaction and it it uh the reaction will go until it until until it kind of comes to a balance but if you take away some of the products of that reaction then the reaction will go farther
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[speaker002:] and so uh the illustration that the chemistry teacher pointed out was he said he said in a in a desirable area people will move in until until bad things happen that cause the uh desirabilities to go to
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know to uh balance kind of balance out he says if it's not air pollution it'll be
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] it will be uh congestion or price of land or something like that so what I'm looking at here in the Portland area is is a temporary situation it's a very desirable area as far as I'm concerned and uh
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[speaker002:] the wonderful air the lack of of uh congestion the low low cost of of uh property uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] in a few years something's going to cause I mean there's uh people just going to continue to move in until we either
[speaker001:] um-hum until just gets the air it can't just it can't support them and the quality of life they want
[speaker002:] and and and as many people move in as move out
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and it'll come to a balance and then if they come along and they add new freeways so let's say they reduce traffic congestion then air pollution will get bad or something else and that's happened in California that's for sure
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[speaker002:] uh as far as in Atlanta do they have a uh do they have uh regulations on on uh like inspection
[speaker001:] um they they do have automobile automobile emissions tests but um it's there there's some sort of rule I don't have a car so I don't know the actual specifics but it's like if your your car is if the make if the model model year of your car is like more than twenty years old you don't have to have it inspected any more
[speaker002:] yeah the grandfather type thing
[speaker001:] you know which is which is just kind of ludicrous you know because those are the ones that you'd expect to
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know be the hardest be the most biggest polluters
[speaker002:] although I think that's partly because it's harder to get parts and and uh
[speaker001:] yeah it's true
[speaker002:] so let's see what was my other question uh my wife thinks this is uh a uh sales call so she's telling me to talk to you about one of the problems with uh she thinks it's from from uh our cable company uh let's see what else we have uh uh let's see do you live you don't live too close do you live close to the city or far away from it
[speaker001:] I basically live downtown
[speaker002:] okay downtown
[speaker001:] and I go to school at Georgia Tech which is pretty much located in the heart of downtown or within a mile from the heart of downtown
[speaker002:] do they have smog days there uh
[speaker001:] it's I don't think it's really announced you know in the sense that the way it the way it is in California but um I have heard on the news in the you know in the past couple of months or so that you know that apparently there's some federal guidelines for um smog and Atlanta's like it