[speaker001:] I have trouble uh coming up with things that actually I've considered invasion of privacy and perhaps it's because I've become so accustomed to the fact that that's the way technology works
[speaker002:] life is yeah well you know there's something that um I really find kind of maybe it's not an invasion of privacy but it's kind of annoying
[speaker001:] what's that
[speaker002:] um you know phone calls uh automated
[speaker001:] oh gosh yes yes
[speaker002:] you know I mean I I find that really offencing or offensive
[speaker001:] I suppose that it's an invasion in that they know where you are and and
[speaker002:] yeah and they don't stop I mean they you know you call and it  it could be any time of the day and and what happens is is they'll call especially especially those computer ones
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] they'll call and and they don't you can't get them off the line you'll hang up and you pick it up a minute later and they'll still be on there
[speaker001:] oh seriously I've never had that experience
[speaker002:] yes I just had you know that just happened a couple day of I guess it's kind of fresh in my mind because this happened a couple of days ago I'd picked up the phone and it's you know they started talking giving me all this spiel and then you know you try to hang up because there's there's nobody to talk to there's only just um
[speaker001:] that seems unusual
[speaker002:] and you hang up and then you pick up to make a phone they're still on there
[speaker001:] you know that almost seems dangerous because what if you picked up the phone to call nine one one or something and you
[speaker002:] I know I know that is
[speaker001:] I wonder if that was a problem in their system that doesn't seem like it should work that way
[speaker002:] yeah but uh as far as privacy uh invasion of privacy I there really you know I guess I'm kind of like you I don't really find it
[speaker001:] haunting you
[speaker002:] there isn't a whole lot that I feel like it's a invasion of privacy of privacy um
[speaker001:] I used to be concerned that everyone no matter what the creditor always wanted to know your social security number but then I figured well they're
[speaker002:] oh I know
[speaker001:] they all have to link it back to some number that that only you have and so
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] everyone in the world that I've you know dealt with on a commercial basis probably has that number and that's just the way it is
[speaker002:] yeah well the I guess you know there's um
[speaker001:] they have access to all your records
[speaker002:] I I guess I don't think about that very often because it it has become the norm you know um
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum if you wanna use credit you have to pay the price and that's
[speaker002:] yeah and you they find everything I mean they find out everything about you they want to know your you know where you live what you do what you know and some of the questions yeah and some of the
[speaker001:] um-hum that's probably why you have gotten those calls because they know that you're one of those people who um are in a I don't know income bracket or something but who has disposable income that's why they're after you
[speaker002:] uh-huh yes you know sometimes that does happen you know sometimes they they would you know somebody would call on the phone and and uh you know you think it's just uh regular type questions but really they are kind of prying into your to your life you know you
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] they wanna know uh where you live how long you been living there
[speaker001:] do you own do you rent
[speaker002:] do you own do you rent you know what time of the days they're usually home what uh you know and sometimes you know you just kind of go through the routine of giving it out and then you think about it afterwards
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] why do they need all that you know
[speaker001:] yeah I generally don't you know when you buy a new product how the um warranty card always asks your level of income
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] and it usually says optional so I I rarely fill it I I don't think I ever fill it out frankly but uh they they wanna know they would like to come back and
[speaker002:] uh-huh right oh yeah oh yeah
[speaker001:] see whether or not you're gonna buy another product
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] interesting
[speaker002:] but um
[speaker001:] that's how marketing works today I think
[speaker002:] I guess it is I'm I'm in that area so it's uh
[speaker001:] are you
[speaker002:] well I'm yeah I'm in sales so I
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you always kind of uh you know it I know that when we when I sell a product to a new customer that's always the first thing that I ask you know is about their credit and you know would they have to fill out a little credit application with with us and and sometimes I feel very uncomfortable in in doing that
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum really huh
[speaker002:] um you know but I know that in order for our company to survive we can't you know uh
[speaker001:] oh yeah you don't wanna take risks
[speaker002:] don't wanna take the risks so
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] um I I suppose some of those uh
[speaker001:] do you personally look at those credit uh references or is there someone else who does that
[speaker002:] you know that's that's the funniest thing is be rare I mean maybe one out of ten do we check on it yeah you know but it's kind of a routine type thing where you just do it and and you file it away and uh
[speaker001:] someone else in your company does that um-hum
[speaker002:] you know at random we'll we'll go ahead and check on it but um it's not
[speaker001:] um-hum oh really so there isn't someone who every time does it just not you
[speaker002:] no huh-uh
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] so you know I just gather the information and and somebody else uh you know at their leisure time uh will check on those credit references but
[speaker001:] but most of them are checked on routinely just by someone else
[speaker002:] yeah most of them are yeah most of them are but they're not all you know they're not all done at the same time
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh that makes sense
[speaker002:] and um you know I I wonder about credit uh