[speaker002:] okay changes what how how old are you
[speaker001:] I am twenty
[speaker002:] twenty oh boy I'm thirty three I feel a lot older uh what do you think the changes are
[speaker001:] yeah how old are you oh  um hm um I just think it's more acceptable for women to um be in the workplace than uh I guess it was a long time ago um that's
[speaker002:] acceptable as in um
[speaker001:] like I just think that they were expected to be at home more before
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and now it's more prevalent I guess
[speaker002:] I work for a really big corporation and we are uh NCNB
[speaker001:] oh really
[speaker002:] yeah and we've got a lot of women in the in the company and I'm a lawyer too so it's like this you know I I've got a I perspective working for a big corporation and a professional working for a big corporation
[speaker001:] um uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh I I you know there are a lot of women here there are a lot of women in power positions but uh and and that's just all wonderful and hunky-dory and aren't we progressive business but there are very very few women in uh in senior positions
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] on on not you know not on the board of directors uh you know not in senior level management and I don't know if that's from um I don't know that's uh just because there hasn't been time or whether there's a glass you know what they call a glass ceiling
[speaker001:] um-hum so you just don't think that it's as do you think that's good or bad or
[speaker002:] I I think it's I think what you're saying is true and that it's acceptable and okay women get out and work but I don't know that um they're they're really expected they're really then um in I hate to use the word again accepted in the position of being workers
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know yeah y'all get out there and do that but you know we're not gonna you know we're not gonna make a chairman of the board
[speaker001:] right and why do you think that why why do you think that is just
[speaker002:] just just because I don't see it I also I work with a lot of law firms and a lot of companies and you know most of the most of the uh movers and shakers are men
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and then in the bank even most of the you know there are a few women that really stand out but you know most of the young eager ones you know the oh the young wonder children are men
[speaker001:] do you think it's because they have the qualifications or because not at all
[speaker002:] no no uh well I don't know I think maybe some of it's because uh uh
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] I don't no and I'm I'm not certain I don't know
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] seems like some of the women they maybe the women aren't motivated uh but
[speaker001:] they just are willing to take the backseat or
[speaker002:] right I'm gonna go in and be a clerk and no you're just as smart as the fellow you're working for
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] that's what I see a lot of I wrote my senior research paper on the Equal Rights Amendment so I'm kind of an activist yes yeah
[speaker001:] oh really are you really so you're pretty um liberal as far as
[speaker002:] I'm very liberal and I speaking to someone in Provo Utah
[speaker001:] well um yeah I I don't know I'm more of a I guess I'm more conservative in my viewpoints I mean I think it's great if they want it if you know women wanna do that and I'm planning on being a nurse so but I don't know I
[speaker002:] how many men are there in in in you know the nursing profession
[speaker001:] very few very few
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but
[speaker002:] and and why is that
[speaker001:] because they think it's a woman's job probably
[speaker002:] yeah I know but
[speaker001:] uh or maybe men wanna earn more money I I don't
[speaker002:] I did exactly
[speaker001:] want wanna earn more money so they can support family I don't
[speaker002:] well
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] and uh you know I my sister-in-law's a nurse I know what she does and it's she has a lot of responsibility I mean she just doesn't change bedpans and uh
[speaker001:] right the you just don't think that it pays off I mean like I I found out like the all the doctor comes comes in and does is the like end delivery is come in and deliver deliver the baby I mean all the pre-everything is nurse nurses but the doctors get the bucks
[speaker002:] yeah exactly they get the bucks and they get the and the recognition for it and all the patient sees is this woman you know hovering around yeah and you know yanking on wires and and IV cords and
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] so I I and I don't think that I don't think that nurses get half the recognition they ought to for example
[speaker001:] oh definitely I I agree