[speaker001:] Okay, so now what are your opinions on recycling?
[speaker002:] Well, I definitely think that we need to start recycling. I think it has got to be an individual responsibility until, I think if we wait, uh, which is happening until somebody says we have to do it
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] it is going to be to late. I have heard reports around here that the landfills will be full by the year two thousand.
[speaker001:] Yeah, I have heard that too.
[speaker002:] And that is not too far away, but I don't know how it is there. It is very difficult here even if you care like I do to do much. I take, my paper, I can take plastic and paper bags back to the grocery store
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and I can take plastic like milk cartons or if they have water in them and there are some fire stations I can take newspapers to and that is very inconvenient cause I have to wait until I have enough of them to make the trip worthwhile.
[speaker001:] Well see, I started saving newspapers and I would take a ton of them
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, uh, that's, I can't remember where I went to take them, but they wouldn't take them.
[speaker002:] Yeah. It is real hard to find a spot and then, I don't know if you note, even doing that, the amount of trash we throw away is incredible bottles
[speaker001:] Oh I know.
[speaker002:] glass that cannot be, it could be recycled, but there is no place to,
[speaker001:] There is no really recycling facilities.
[speaker002:] No. We have a pilot program in Arlington going on I think in the north part of the city where they are have people people separate the garbage as, the trash as they put it out.
[speaker001:] I think that is a good idea.
[speaker002:] And I think that is what it is going to have to come to. Where we are just forced to.
[speaker001:] Besides, well like a law or whatever. An-, that's how it is
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] in New York isn't it.
[speaker002:] I think so, just because they have to.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] You know,
[speaker001:] And you get ticketed if you don't do it right.
[speaker002:] Right, uh-huh. And I think it is going to come to that because some people will just not go to the, it's, It's trouble for me to do what I do
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I mean, I am willing to do it but,
[speaker001:] Plus you have to have a place to store all of it
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] and see I live in an apartment.
[speaker002:] Yeah. It is very difficult. Like our garage is always full of sacks of newspapers and, so, I don't know. I think there needs to be more places and also I have a real strong opinion. In Iowa, the state I am from
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] uh, I believe it has gone up to a dollar now. Every time you buy a container, no matter what it is, whether it is glass, whether it's a beer can or a fifth of whiskey or a pop or whatever, you pay ten cents for it
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] and then you take it back to the store and you get it back.
[speaker001:] Uh, so that way it kind of forces you to recycle.
[speaker002:] You are forced to. And, uh, you also don't see the litter there. People just,
[speaker001:] Yeah, that's true.
[speaker002:] It makes it worthwhile to take it back and I've just started drinking a new water called Clearly Canadian, I don't know if you've tried it
[speaker001:] Yeah, I have seen them.
[speaker002:] and they have on the ba-, it's five cents, that they pay five cents
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and it even shows the states that,
[speaker001:] That take them back.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Well, on-, some of them are five, some are ten cents. I am looking at it right now.
[speaker001:] Is Texas one of them?
[speaker002:] Texas is not one of them see. So, I have to throw them away cause there is no place to take glass.
[speaker001:] Yeah. No, I don't think that there is enough being done. Now, I work at J C PENNY at their corporate headquarters.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And we have a paper recycling program that, uh, is company wide and I do the recycling for that.
[speaker002:] Do they save like the paper they they use at the office paper.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Good. Because there is a lot of waste there isn't there.
[speaker001:] Yeah. And I know there is a lot of computer paper
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] that you can't use.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] But, uh, we use to have, uh, I mean, I don't even remember how much money that they've, uh, I mean, the money that they've made from the recycling program. They have donated it to charities.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] I mean
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] they have made a substantial amount of money from it.
[speaker002:] Something else I think we do can do is support companies that encourage like, I have decided Downy Fabric Softener now has where you can buy a little carton
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] you add wa-, well, I image everybody else will start doing that sooner or later, but I am going to stick with Downey because they were first.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And I want them to have my business. And I think packaging could be done much better. There is so much plastic. But,
[speaker001:] Well I know, you see some of the stuff and then when they come out with the new things, you are like, well why didn't you think of that before.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah. And I think that it's just people have got to be aware. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that just don't care and they don't want to think about it.
[speaker001:] Yeah, that's true.
[speaker002:] And, uh, I just look at it, I don't want my grandchildren looking at me and saying why didn't you do something. You know, I want to feel like I at least tried.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And I don't know. It just may overwhelm us here when we run out of places to put it. Then we will be forced to. It may be too late.
[speaker001:] Do they not ever, I mean, I don't know that much. Do they not ever burn trash or anything like,
[speaker002:] Very little. That's another thing that, see there were no,
[speaker001:] Then, that's pollution.
[speaker002:] I know Amway. I use a couple of things from Amway that it says this is burnable material. Well, that doesn't do me any good because I don't have any place to burn it.
[speaker001:] Yeah, I know. I guess you run into the pollution factor.
[speaker002:] Yeah. And then just like the glass bottles, that it says on the bottle I can get ten cents, but not in Texas.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And there is no place I can take glass to.
[speaker001:] Uh,
[speaker002:] So, I still throw away a lot of glass.
[speaker001:] It is really sad.
[speaker002:] Yeah. And then the packaging thing really grips me. You buy some and it's got a great big piece of cardboard and a great big piece of plastic,