[speaker001:] so how do you uh so it so it sounds like you've got a television going on there so I can assume that you probably watch TV news is that
[speaker002:] I almost never watch TV news I get most of my news driving back and forth to work listening to the radio
[speaker001:] really wow  uh what what station do you listen to
[speaker002:] uh it's a local radio station it's called uh KLIF cliff
[speaker001:] cliff I see so um it's not affiliated with anything is it not not a network station okay yeah because I I listen to uh public radio a lot and they have
[speaker002:] no no
[speaker001:] they have KCRW which I I I saw a thing recently they may be trying to start their own uh cable TV outlet I guess they're getting a little getting a little feisty now
[speaker002:] well this has this station has a lot of just ongoing news
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] and occasionally in the morning I'll pick up something like uh CNN or that but I hate watching the like ten o'clock news or
[speaker001:] yeah so you have a paper or something or
[speaker002:] yeah we have a local well we have uh Dallas Morning News which is the big paper in Dallas we read it I read it pretty much
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] from cover to cover
[speaker001:] how do you like it it's been it's been a while since I read the Dallas news I uh fact last time I read the Dallas Dallas news I was in Arkansas uh
[speaker002:] the Times Herald went out of business here
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] and so we really only have one Dallas newspaper and one Fort Worth newspaper
[speaker001:] well that must be pretty bad so how did that happen anyway
[speaker002:] uh financial trouble
[speaker001:] no not how I mean when did it when did they yeah
[speaker002:] oh when did it happen I guess they closed down about three months ago
[speaker001:] oh really
[speaker002:] huh so how do you keep up
[speaker001:] oh me I um good grief I read the Times Los Angeles Times there's uh quite a task if you've ever run into one they're uh specially
[speaker002:] yes they're very voluminous
[speaker001:] yeah they're thick um if there's something you want to know it's it's in the Times and then in in detail um they uh we we used to have two papers here in town and then the Herald Examiner collapsed about two years ago because of oh I don't know just just nobody was buying it really
[speaker002:] so there really is only one major LA newspaper now
[speaker001:] yeah pretty much um there used to be in fact I think there still is the uh the Daily News which runs out of the San Fernando Valley and um they're not bad as far as a uh you know as far as a local paper goes in fact it was kind of weird because I met the uh I met the I met the editor uh while I was on uh while I was doing jury service in Santa Monica one time it was like we just sat around and talk about newspapers and stuff he was a really cool guy um you know went to Columbia University and all this stuff and uh it's it's a pretty good paper but um you know it's not the it's not the Times
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] although I see you know I'm starting to see some of their um there's there's a daily new uh news rack right around the corner from where I live which means that they're they're expanding I guess but uh and and occasionally I I pick up like Time magazine or something I think uh if they've got an interesting lead story but you know it's I I don't have time
[speaker002:] I used to read Time magazine a lot but I don't read it much anymore
[speaker001:] yeah that's that's kind of a problem for them there's a lot of people who fall into that category
[speaker002:] and then we have a local rag here in town that I pick up periodically and read just to see what's going on in our little community
[speaker001:] uh-huh I see
[speaker002:] because we don't get an awful lot of coverage in the Dallas Morning News
[speaker001:] yeah the big dailies don't like to don't like to step much out of their uh out of their home turf I have to admit the Times is kind of provincial too it's basically anything that's south of downtown they don't bother to cover
[speaker002:] now they have started here running a three day or three times a week Plano section
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and it's just sort of a you know four or five pages that covers what's going on in Plano but it's still not an awful lot of news
[speaker001:] yeah I know I uh it was it was a big discovery when when the Times when the Times found out there was a place called Orange County I mean the way they I mean the way they've been handling it before they practically they practically acted like their reporters needed shots to go south of the LA county border
[speaker002:] oh I would imagine in uh you know in Dallas they have plenty happening in Dallas to cover that it gets hard covering all of the suburbs suburbs and of course they tend to cover the county and we're not in Dallas county so they tend to ignore places outside of the county
[speaker001:] yeah oh really yeah yeah I I I find that attitude kind of arrogant though it's like you're taking our money but you're not bothering to cover things that are interesting to us
[speaker002:] yeah