[speaker001:] uh what topic would you like to discuss political topic
[speaker002:] oh I don't know I guess the thing that's on my mind lately is these hostages that have been released so I can't imagine how it would've been to been incarcerated incarcerated for that length of time
[speaker001:] well I think it's marvelous they finally figured a way to get them out of there huh
[speaker002:] I'm not sure what it ever what it really accomplished having them uh locked up for that long did the uh did their captors ever really say this is why we're holding them and
[speaker001:] well what they wanted of course was uh one money and two the release of all the Palestinians held by the Israels
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know the the the Jewish folks and uh I guess they're gonna get a lot of those released and
[speaker002:] yeah  I understand there's uh what several hundred or even thousands of political prisoners
[speaker001:] probably a lot I probably a lot
[speaker002:] yeah what's uh what's been pressing you lately
[speaker001:] well I think the developments in Soviet Union are rather interesting
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] I'm not real sure how they're gonna all turn out I hope they turn out positively and not turn into chaos but
[speaker002:] well does it sound like Gorbachev definitely out of a job to you
[speaker001:] certainly sounds that way doesn't it
[speaker002:] looks looks that way uh I'm a little disappointed and I and I think people uh
[speaker001:] yep
[speaker002:] well he's won a peace prize and uh
[speaker001:] well I think that's one of the problems being a Mister Nice Guy and I think that's what he was and is you know I I think he tried to
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] accommodate too many people uh and in a structure like that apparently it's a difficult if not impossible task I don't know
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but Europe is
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] and whether we like it or not when the USSR was together the peace was kept in Europe relatively speaking
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and uh there might be a big void there and I uh it's certainly a
[speaker002:] well
[speaker001:] fence sitting situation I I I hope it's not a I hope it gets resolved properly let's put that way
[speaker002:] yeah well it's gonna be interesting see what happens the next year there
[speaker001:] with all those nuclear weapons floating around you get uh get the wrong person there I think we could have major problems
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] I I don't necessarily mean we in in the US alone but the world
[speaker002:] I'm curious what uh what Texans think of their neighboring state and uh recent uh gubernatorial race there with uh David Duke
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] how was the what was the press like in in Texas over that issue
[speaker001:] well of course there's a number of rednecks in Texas that I'm sure would jump on his band wagon and uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but I'm sure the vast vast majority would think it of him as he probably is
[speaker002:] um-hum I it's remarkable that he can uh I think that he can get this far as he's gotten with uh
[speaker001:] and uh
[speaker002:] you know the kind of background he's got and I'm I'm just surprised that he has uh seems like that'd be something that be so controversial that it pretty well exclude himself from any political office
[speaker001:] well I think the South is not the nation certainly still has many racist type people that uh would jump on his band wagon
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] and uh being a springer splinter operation I'm sure it wouldn't you know it it raises a lot of noise and everything but I don't think it would probably go very far in a
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] overall scope of things
[speaker002:] well I think we're a little isolated where I live here we just don't have many uh many blacks to speak of uh you know probably less than five percent of the population I would guess
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] we have a fair a fair amount of uh Hispanics and um Native Americans not too many blacks
[speaker001:] well well I think it's a I grew up in uh Milwaukee and Wisconsin and uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I think uh you know it's definitely a different philosophy of how you look at blacks up North as you do in the South
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and you know it I growing up uh where I grew up in our high school you had one black that was from out of the area to start with and you know we had three thousand kids in our high school so
[speaker002:] that was the extent of it huh
[speaker001:] we weren't really you know even you know when we played football against a couple black teams and you know that part of Milwaukee uh you know they were nothing you know I mean now now it's all the blacks in football and basketball
[speaker002:] I'll say there's they sure dominate the pro sports don't they and well and collegiate too so
[speaker001:] so I I don't I don't know what uh you know times have changed but I I think that's one of the reasons the Packers will always have problems having a getting back to the status they were during the Lombardi years and uh Green Bay being an extremely small town
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] of sixty thousand fifty five thousand