[speaker001:] there we go um normally it takes me a lot longer to get through but this is pretty quick do you have children
[speaker002:] oh yes I do I have five
[speaker001:] oh oh my goodness tell then you've obviously had some experience with child care
[speaker002:] um both ends actually
[speaker001:] really uh what do you mean
[speaker002:] I tended in my home for about twelve years
[speaker001:] oh wow
[speaker002:] and uh uh
[speaker001:] now what did you look for when you were looking for child care
[speaker002:] when I was looking for child care
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I've never had to uh uh it's been the situation where I had to
[speaker001:] oh it it
[speaker002:] put my own children in child care thank goodness
[speaker001:] it um-hum yeah that's nice
[speaker002:] I was uh
[speaker001:] lucky
[speaker002:] I was um I've always been very grateful for that
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] excuse me just a minute
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I'm sorry
[speaker001:] that's okay
[speaker002:] but it has been a a factor my youngest is now in a uh preschool which is different than
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] day care I guess you know per say
[speaker001:] uh-huh um well what you know I work in a personnel agency and um so I'm constantly interviewing and placing people in jobs
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and I've just really become discouraged in people's own sense of responsibility and dependability um and what what's hard for me is I don't have children but I would imagine once I do I'm probably going to need to find some sort of child care
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and it worries me it worries me a lot because I just um I I don't I don't know who I could feel comfortable trusting my children with It
[speaker002:] oh it's very hard it's very hard
[speaker001:] it I yeah
[speaker002:] I always felt like I ran a real tip top in home child care I think there are advantages to to child care in the home but oh I'd be very very careful if I were putting my own children in a home
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum I know
[speaker002:] they uh and even if you get a place that's just perfect just perfect you know it's clean and the people are responsible and and the uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] the other kids are decent and there are programs provided and foods done properly and all those kinds of things that you think of you know to to worry about
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] I you know you your children build bonds with those kids that are there
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] and yet and they're usually very young preschool age
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and yet when that's gone
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] you don't you don't even know who those other mothers are chances are they're like little cousins you know or brothers and sisters and yet they never see one another again
[speaker001:] I know oh I know um-hum
[speaker002:] so you know I think that's a
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] that's a factor too
[speaker001:] oh it certainly is um
[speaker002:] most of my uh I come from a family of nine children
[speaker001:] and um-hum oh wow
[speaker002:] myself my own you know children my uh nuclear family
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and most of us have somehow been able to work out either aunts and uncles uh siblings you know older siblings younger siblings you know some of us have had children that were quite stretched out in age or
[speaker001:] that's great
[speaker002:] situations where you know kind of joint where mothers worked at night or you know alternated or dad worked out of the home so he could tend the kids you know different things and
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] not very many of us have had to actually have that full day every day
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] day care in a herd kind of situation and the one
[speaker001:] not only yeah not only does that make you uh just have you know more peace of mind but isn't that great for the child too
[speaker002:] I think so
[speaker001:] to not be with strangers and even though they're you know getting to know the people and it's probably good for them to you know be out of the house and all that but just to have a parent with them so few families are able to do that these days that the fact that you're able to do it and and that your siblings could that's just wonderful
[speaker002:] well and at the time that I was doing you know in home child care I I felt real strongly you know that that was a needed to be a real viable opportunity for parents to to have that option that they didn't feel you know a lot of people most people cannot afford to have a nanny
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] or a governess you know type situation where that
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] housekeeper someone in the home their own home is tending to their own children
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] day in and day out that's just a luxury most people can't afford if they could afford that they probably wouldn't be going to work except for the person who's got a career you know who's um I think more and more I think we're going to see
[speaker001:] um-hum oh yeah right um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] child care change I think there's going to be more corporate involvement I think we're going to see a lot more um
[speaker001:] definitely um-hum
[speaker002:] paternity leave and options that involve the dads more
[speaker001:] definitely and we're going to see more like you were saying corporate I think we're going to see more uh maybe even a corporate contribution I mean just companies helping to to pay for it because it's just not
[speaker002:] flex times yeah yeah um-hum well basically you know we already have my husband works for a large uh oil corporation
[speaker001:] uh it's a necessity um-hum
[speaker002:] and they have you know a deduction kind of plan where it's tax free you know if you put it in ahead of time yeah
[speaker001:] yes that's what we do here uh-huh pre tax dollars that that you're yeah that's that's what we have here
[speaker002:] I think that's um-hum um-hum and on site care
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] those kinds of
[speaker001:] oh they do have on site care
[speaker002:] no no they don't I'm saying I think that I s one of one way of the future that we will see
[speaker001:] oh I'm sorry oh um-hum boy yeah
[speaker002:] and and much needed I I like to see those kinds of things that emphasize the family unity rather than
[speaker001:] sending people off and
[speaker002:] you know because we just have a generation of people that are not going to be happy with
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] either parent not when and our economy is almost precludes one person staying home if they stay home they've still got to contribute somehow
[speaker001:] oh I know um-hum yes
[speaker002:] you know financially
[speaker001:] yeah oh yeah um and and I guess you know it's just it's too scary to be reading the papers and hearing on the news they always say that um you know all these horrible things happen in the most comfortable places like uh sexually abused children it's happening with a neighbor or with somebody that they think they knew well and trusted um and
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum yeah yeah they say probably eighty percent
[speaker001:] that's the scary thing is that you think okay these people are good because you can trust them and and all that then they're the ones that might you know turn around and and be the ones that cause the problem it's it's really scary it's um
[speaker002:] well
[speaker001:] I my husband is a professor or I should say he will be a professor and um I'm looking forward to his schedule being flexible and to mine and you know at some point being flexible so that we can sort of juggle our own schedules around and and create some sort of way that we can be around you know not necessarily at the same time but at least one of us be there one woman that we have in our office um he works during the day and she works in the evenings part-time
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and so you know even though she's only working part-time she's not spending money on the day care so it's almost like you're not um you know maybe you're not making as much but you're not spending as much either
[speaker002:] um-hum I read the most interesting article here oh gosh it's been about two months ago right around Easter time I remember thinking it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] was when I read it about a husband and a wife that honest and truly share the same job for Arco Oil and Gas
[speaker001:] um-hum oh my goodness
[speaker002:] I'm trying to think it was computer related they were both over a department he worked one week she works the next they have two children
[speaker001:] um-hum oh wow isn't that ideal
[speaker002:] how very unusual you know I mean for to find two people who even could do the same job or have the same education to do it but they'd met on site you know and
[speaker001:] yes right right
[speaker002:] the relationship developed and you know they married and
[speaker001:] and a company that can allow that yeah
[speaker002:] that would support it and the uh and of course you always wonder you know when you read it in the newspaper is it really all you know
[speaker001:] right is this true or what
[speaker002:] did they just ignore half the team who can't stand this arrangements but the team members that were interviewed all seemed to be very supportive of it and uh
[speaker001:] um-hum that is what a neat idea
[speaker002:] and said that their that their management styles meshed real well
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and
[speaker001:] wow that's amazing
[speaker002:] isn't that interesting very novel you know
[speaker001:] yes that is very good I like that um it's
[speaker002:] you know you hear of women you know maybe like on flex time thing you know but you're talking file clerk I mean you know you're not talking
[speaker001:] right yeah I know you're not
[speaker002:] you know both with master's degrees yeah
[speaker001:] isn't that interesting wow I would imagine that must be hard to to not bring your work home though you know um they probably
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum our uh our dentists are husband and wife team work out of the same office
[speaker001:] oh really oh
[speaker002:] yeah and uh they have children
[speaker001:] well that's that's good I mean if some couples want to do that I think that's great and uh you you just got to change your life around somehow when you're going to have kids no question about it
[speaker002:] that's and yet it's worth it
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] it truly is worth it you know there are some days when you wonder if it is but you know face it you know the
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] population is decreasing you know and somebody's going to have these little babies and
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum yeah now do you are your kids is are your older ones at an age where they're taking care of the younger ones yet or oh they are
[speaker002:] oh yes my uh my big ones are wonderful to help with my little one and uh
[speaker001:] oh good
[speaker002:] we are we're to the point now where we only have one that has to be sat like you would say baby sitting or tending but I still believe that it's very important that moms be in the home in the afternoon
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] when those kids come home from school and stuff that's just
[speaker001:] yeah yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] you know that's I think it's just as critical for middle school and high schoolers as it is
[speaker001:] um-hum