[speaker001:] do you have any hobbies
[speaker002:] yes I do
[speaker001:] what are yours
[speaker002:] china painting and ceramics
[speaker001:] ooh how great
[speaker002:] I enjoy it um-hum
[speaker001:] oh uh ceramic painting
[speaker002:] I enjoy the china more
[speaker001:] the china more
[speaker002:] and now that I have my eyes corrected to the point that I can see the delicate part of china painting I do enjoy it
[speaker001:] how did you ever get into that that sounds so interesting
[speaker002:] my husband kept begging me and he's been dead now for twenty years so you understand that this was a long time ago but he finally brought me the china the book the brushes and he said I have made arrangements for your lessons
[speaker001:] how marvelous I
[speaker002:] and I said I'll do it for three months and if I don't like it that's it well I painted an awful lot until his death which was several years and it has just been the most relaxing enjoyable self satisfying thing I've had I
[speaker001:] now do you do it just for yourself or do you do it to give as gifts or do you actually sell it
[speaker002:] I have sold quite a bit I give a lot to our two daughters that are grown and have their home and then I just have the rest of my house with lot of hand painting in it um-hum
[speaker001:] oh that sounds marvelous now do you work outside of the home
[speaker002:] I have just retired
[speaker001:] you've just retired oh the oh what a great hobby I
[speaker002:] yes no it's not it's a great hobby but don't retire oh it's
[speaker001:] uh don't retire well see I don't I never uh returned to work for the past I have stayed home for about the last nine years
[speaker002:] oh have you well
[speaker001:] we've transferred around and our last area was in a rural section right on the lake uh on Lake Erie so the lake life appealed to me and my husband's working and he left it up to me if I worked or not
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] so in my spare time I love to sew there aren't too many people around anymore that really enjoy sewing but I do make all my own clothes and we recently purchased a new home so I enjoy doing my uh toppers for my window applications
[speaker002:] oh I see oh um-hum
[speaker001:] and things like that but uh just when I thought I really enjoyed my hobby yours sounds great
[speaker002:] well if my sister is the seamstress of the two of us and but she doesn't china paint so we both have our expertise sided
[speaker001:] that is excellent
[speaker002:] um what part of Ohio are you in
[speaker001:] we're in the suburb I'm in the suburb of Cleveland and I'm about um fifteen miles probably from downtown Cleveland something like that and Cleveland is located right on Lake Erie and prior to this we were fifty miles west from here so we were right on the lake
[speaker002:] yep yes
[speaker001:] and Cleveland isn't all as bad as what you've heard and you do find people uh into the crafts and the things that uh various things for spare time but I have never heard and I have actually never run into anyone into the china painting and I'm just intrigued with it
[speaker002:] well if you ever start be sure and start with a large piece that you can I mean a large flat plate hm that way you can get the feel of you're not cramped on these smaller objects
[speaker001:] right where you're getting into the delicate work now do you where where did you first get your lessons from
[speaker002:] that's right in Abilene Texas
[speaker001:] through a uh an adult ed or uh strictly a china type
[speaker002:] uh she just taught china painting um-hum and
[speaker001:] oh how marvelous
[speaker002:] and when then we had so much fun there I had a friend from Albany which is about thirty six miles away and we would meet every Thursday morning at our instructor's home because she did our firing for us and she would help us and we bought lots of equipment from her supplies and it was just such a delightful time
[speaker001:] oh and it's so nice it must be so nice for you now that you're retired
[speaker002:] and then after I beg pardon I have been a little bit negligent about it because I was so tired when I had to go to work after my husband's death so I have put it aside for a little while but I'm I have just found me an instructor to get started again um-hum
[speaker001:] oh isn't that great and you'll probably really uh regain regain your enthusiasm for it once you get into a a class again
[speaker002:] oh I know of course I just have one beautiful peonies with peonies uh umbrella stand and I have two daughters and they're both