[speaker001:] well Doug what are they doing in your community in Pennsylvania about recycling
[speaker002:] okay well some stuff I go to Penn State up here and the town recycles quite a bit actually they collect curbside
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] gone the day that the garbage goes and they recycle um tin and aluminum cans and glass and newspaper basically
[speaker001:] uh-huh so the the people have to separate it out is that
[speaker002:] um no actually the um garbage crew does that you just put a you know plastic plastic recycling bin out on the curb every week and now except for having the paper bundled people don't really separate at all
[speaker001:] oh yeah how about at Penn State do they recycle things like uh computer paper and that sort of thing
[speaker002:] um yeah they do although there's just recently been a problem with them uh like saying that they weren't able to afford recycling everything anymore so that they um they stopped recycling newspaper on campus for instance
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] they stopped recycling glass so they're only doing cans and white paper now which I think is kind of insane
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] because it's really not that expensive
[speaker001:] well what I've uh learned about recycling is that it's almost impractical to recycle newspapers
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] which is sad and and as a matter of fact I'm member of a civic organization where we had someone from the city of Dallas come talk to us about recycling and the whole key to recycling is demand
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] the supply is there people are willing to do it
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but for example until they figure out how they can strip the inks off of used newspapers effectively cost effectively
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] then it's not gonna happen
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and and there are whole huge warehouses in Dallas full of used newspapers and I think they actually are building some sort of a plant in Texas where they can strip the ink off
[speaker002:] um-hum I see
[speaker001:] I know at work we recycle white paper and cans like you said
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh the city of Plano is actually doing quite a bit they recently started picking up um glass aluminum and and they will take newspapers too
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] and it apparently doesn't have to be sorted they haven't quite reached my neighborhood yet but they're doing all sorts of smart things uh
[speaker002:] I see
[speaker001:] they no longer allow grass clippings to be bagged up in plastic bags and put out by the trash
[speaker002:] um yeah that's definitely good
[speaker001:] yes if you want to bag you know if you if if you don't want the clippings left on your lawn you can bag them in biodegradable bags which means paper
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] which you can buy from the city
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and and they're great until it rains and then they start biodegrading
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but they are uh contracting with someone to turn all these clippings into mulch
[speaker002:] oh that's great
[speaker001:] and I don't know whether I don't know whether it'll be available to the to the citizens of the town or whether it will just be used in the parks and recreation department or something I I don't know I guess it really doesn't matter
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but it's uh uh since they won't take any yard waste it's that's in plastic bags it's a little bit annoying when you're you know pulling up your vegetable garden at the end of the season and that sort of thing
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and you don't have any of the their special paper bags on hand because you haven't bagged your clippings at all you just let them recycle themselves
[speaker002:] yeah I she see
[speaker001:] but uh I don't I this for a rather small town well hundred thousand people or so I guess this pretty progressive community
[speaker002:] um-hum uh is it happening much in towns like it in Texas
[speaker001:] um I don't know about statewide I think I think in the Dallas area there are few other uh suburbs Plano's a suburb that uh are doing things about recycling
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] but it in order for it to be cost effective you have to have customers for it you have to have people say I won't have I won't buy paper unless it's recycled
[speaker002:] right right right because
[speaker001:] I mean
[speaker002:] right the plan of the state college originally was that the recycling would pay for itself and all that and the people's garbage rates would actually go down and of course if hasn't happened that way