[speaker001:] school teacher or do you have anything to do with anything in schools or
[speaker002:] no I don't no
[speaker001:] no huh
[speaker002:] not that really much exposure in the in the recent past either how about yourself
[speaker001:] no uh not a lot I've got a couple of friends that work uh as teachers or you know in in different school districts and different things but uh
[speaker002:] um-hum and do you have any children
[speaker001:] I I have a daughter that's only eighteen months though so we haven't got exposed too much to that but
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] you can sure see where it seems like uh there's a lot of concern for everything going downhill and they blame a lot of it on education I I kind of wonder I don't know if you blame the system or if you blame the kids and the parents for not studying or making the kids study hard enough or exactly what
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I think it's probably a combination you know I think probably parents expect a lot more out of the school system than it's realistic that that the school system can provide
[speaker001:] um-hum for them to get uh-huh
[speaker002:] and in conjunction a lot of um school districts' funds have been cut because of at least in California that's the case it's probably the case elsewhere too
[speaker001:] sure yeah well they've been cut yeah I just it seems like more and more with uh more families having to resort to you know to two incomes and stuff there's not the time that they spend and so they like you say they expect the the schools to do more of it but hell there's only so many in hours a day
[speaker002:] I don't even know if it's just because um people are working you know both parents are working outside the home as much as it it's a matter of
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] well it's kind of a philosophical philosophical expectation about who's responsible for discipline you know it's
[speaker001:] oh you know I think that's a good point it's really a good point
[speaker002:] it you know you you could be working full time and um still be able to work with your child and provide some guidance at home and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] in terms of homework as well as the the you know discipline for what's important in terms of values and I think that's probably something that not as many kids get I mean just I guess
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] I say that because you see it reflected in the society at large there are a lot of kids out there who seem more troubled today than they used to be
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah I uh you know it seems like I remember on school nights you know I was never outside past eight you know maybe nine o'clock at the very latest whether I was in doing homework or not you know I may not have been but yet there was that influence in the home to where I was at least you know getting prepared for the next day or whatever and and you're you know you're right in saying you don't see a lot of that there's out running around and uh doing a lot of different things that
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum maybe TV's a bigger um
[speaker001:] yeah TV and Nintendo
[speaker002:] competitor for their time
[speaker001:] yeah that's probably true there's a lot more uh
[speaker002:] and when we were kids
[speaker001:] yeah that's true I know you know I didn't appreciate I I was you know fortunate to where I could I kind of breezed through high school without too much problem stuff and and didn't really learn how to study that much until I hit college
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but boy I sure wish now that I had picked that up earlier because you know took me a couple of years in college before I really started getting the grades going and you know it affects your whole life especially when you hit college if you don't you know do as well as you can it can it can follow you for quite a while so
[speaker002:] yeah that's a good point just learning the discipline to to to study
[speaker001:] yeah to sit and study and I don't know it's it's you know I only have the the one daughter and she's quite young but it makes you a little nervous to know what they have to deal with you know in the future and get prepared for them but
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum well probably having gone through that experience you'll be likely to want to speak speak with her uh teachers and really try to communicate with them to find out what it is that you can do to help her at home
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum do you have any children at all or
[speaker002:] our daughter's two so I'm in sort of in the same boat that you are
[speaker001:] oh yeah same boat yeah have you uh have you ever considered private schools at all or
[speaker002:] well you know we're coming up on the time she's probably going to be ready for she's in a day care situation now because my husband and I both work full time but um
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] I think she'll probably be ready for preschool around three or three and a half and after that time we really do need to think about it because in San Francisco in our neighborhood there's actually a good public schools at the elementary grade there's not a really decent middle school or high school I'm not sure we'll be in the same area when she's that old but um
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] I have to really do the research to find out whether or not the public schools stand up to the private schools and what the costs are and all that
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's really the the expense is a real issue when you think about
[speaker001:] yeah that's true that's true yeah I I am I like a lot of the times you know I think the social aspect can be maybe as important and in a lot of ways as the education they get uh
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] sometimes I wonder if they can get that same thing in a in a private high school or
[speaker002:] well I don't know how it is in your community I know that um
[speaker001:] or not
[speaker002:] in some communities of San Francisco the public schools well actually it's not so much in the city actually it's outside more in the east Oakland or east bay
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] um the public schools are so poor that the private schools have just really grown as a response to the fact that the parents don't feel that they're getting getting what they want in the public schools so they're almost like public
[speaker001:] um-hum