[speaker001:] uh we are to discuss air pollution and uh what we think the causes are
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I probably would uh target uh industry as being number one polluter
[speaker002:] yeah that's probably a major one I think uh individually uh just by the vast number of people there are there's I think cars are also a major contributor to it
[speaker001:] well vehicles and and yes and
[speaker002:] yeah vehicles
[speaker001:] but right because uh there's a lot of commercial vehicles out there especially those the big rigs like the busses and um the big uh eighteen wheelers and so forth
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] I think they would generate probably uh one of them would probably generate enough for three cars but that's not and I think it can be resolved if uh if they really let go with the technology that they have at uh at their hand and they haven't released it yet
[speaker002:] just a minute I'm on the phone uh-huh
[speaker001:] I think there's a lot of hold back uh because of uh oh priorities that they have you know and um it's you have some children
[speaker002:] yeah well it yes I have I have five in the kitchen at the moment you need to shut the door please shut the door right now we have the air conditioner running what do you need hurry I'm on the phone yes you may and they keep turning the tape recorder up besides
[speaker001:] oh okay do you have do you watch children or do you
[speaker002:] um I have three of my own and I have uh two that I'm tending for the summer off and on so
[speaker001:] uh-huh well well that's interesting um is there anything
[speaker002:] they cause more noise pollution than air pollution
[speaker001:] well temporarily they do then we get out of that phase
[speaker002:] that's right that's right yeah
[speaker001:] soon enough
[speaker002:] but um I think another you can tell when you go around cities you can smell specific things from from uh specific industries
[speaker001:] um oh yes
[speaker002:] I remember being I I grew up in New Jersey
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh I can remember the smell of Newark vividly and it's the type of industry you know which obviously if you can smell it it's in the air
[speaker001:] uh-huh sure um-hum well I know uh uh in Michigan uh the way they used to take care of the trash is they would incinerate it and the fumes from the incineration was a terrible pollutant to the air
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and um of course now
[speaker002:] well people think you burn it it's gone but it's not gone
[speaker001:] no and when they and you bury it and it's not gone either because it has untold ramifications
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh
[speaker002:] then it just gets into the soil and into the water
[speaker001:] and it gets into into people you know which is uh the the most important um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] resource that we have is people and they're and they're destroying us they really are
[speaker002:] yeah we really have to do more
[speaker001:] so I think the cockroach will evolve uh safely safely
[speaker002:] I think we've got to do more with the recycling that's I'm I'm really glad to see that there's more of that happening
[speaker001:] so they say yes but there's not enough
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and we need expert cooperation
[speaker002:] well it's a we're getting at least they're starting you know so at least they're moving that direction
[speaker001:] yeah education of the education of the people is primary I would think
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and uh and we're hard to teach
[speaker002:] um-hum well it's going to it's probably going to be a generation or two before
[speaker001:] we are hard to teach absolutely yeah
[speaker002:] before it's really going very well because
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] now the adults are more aware of it and the children are being taught in the schools more it'll be you know on down the road this is going to be passed on which is good
[speaker001:] absolutely yes uh of course uh we would like to see it accelerated because uh of the critical nature of it
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] the the learning of it and the just to um think that way we have to be in that thought pattern and able to um motivate ourselves to um uh do what is right for the atmosphere
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] um I think we're all contributors I mean every human being that lives is a contributor to pollution so
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] we just um
[speaker002:] I think you're right education is a big thing you know and as we educate them individually what they can do
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] people become more aware of the things in industry too that that are causing problems and and I think that they'll gradually they'll work towards solving those problems more too um
[speaker001:] well hopefully it can be resolved within a shorter time frame than we have seen it done in the past
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] that the time frame for cleaning up our air and our and our um land you know which uh we get our nutrients from you know I mean everything goes back to the land
[speaker002:] yeah just a minute and I'll turn it up I'll turn it up in a minute honey when I'm done
[speaker001:] so um it's just um very critical I think at this point to uh get that through to the people and get us educated
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah well I think science has come a long way to making it so that it's possible to find ways to solve the problem
[speaker001:] um-hum I I don't know if they offer classes in uh the uh in the grade school uh uh subjecting
[speaker002:] um I think they teach it a lot in science
[speaker001:] in science okay
[speaker002:] yeah I would think that that's where it would come through
[speaker001:] what grade level would that be would that be um perhaps the first grade level which would be
[speaker002:] I I think they're kind of getting it in all different grades
[speaker001:] well I mean are they starting though at at with the children that are so their little minds are like sponges and they can really uh relate to that
[speaker002:] yeah I think they are starting probably in the first grade they're you know they're hearing somewhat about it um I know uh Target has their program to make kids more aware of it and
[speaker001:] target stores
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] oh okay
[speaker002:] they've got if you go in the entrance they've got uh stands usually where they have um little uh kind of a little newspaper thing that the kids can read and and they can form a a group to
[speaker001:] okay oh I see um help fight the pollution oh that's wonderful
[speaker002:] uh yeah yeah so
[speaker001:] well I'm sure that uh perhaps they're the leaders you know and other will others will pick up on their example and carry it um further
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know because um thoughts are
[speaker002:] well I I know it's hard it's a hard problem to solve because you you know like McDonald's has changed back and forth between paper and foam and that kind of thing and
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and they do all these studies on which ones pollute more and then there's the paper and plastic bag question