[speaker001:] yeah okay so you enjoy camping
[speaker002:] oh yeah I uh like like you I haven't done it in quite some time
[speaker001:] yeah uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] except for what I call living now which is which is very close to camping yeah you know I I camped in the Boy Scouts and uh
[speaker001:] yeah is it uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know my dad and I went out sometimes but uh even my first uh eight or nine years of working I camped almost all the time because I was in construction
[speaker001:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker002:] and it's cheaper to pitch a tent and cook your meals out by the fire than it is to rent an apartment add to stress I mean you when you have to have it you got to have it
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] and you know in uh in those those kinds of situations uh you know room rent was just outrageous
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] so my buddy and I we just camped and we figured what the hell we did it when we were kids and we loved it
[speaker001:] yeah uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] course we didn't really rough it that much when when I was in in high school uh he's a couple of years older than me and uh he graduated and went off to college and and during during summer we'd camp out at the lake
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but it was wasn't very much like camping because we had a refrigerator and a stove and you know I had a little uh boat house and floated it out on Lake Grapevine
[speaker001:] oh well yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh well it was fantastic we'd get up in the morning go skiing at that substituted for a shower you know and then we'd go to work and uh come back to the you know to the boat house at night
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] you know in in the afternoon you know it's still four o'clock you got four hours of day light good skiing left
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh it was great
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but uh you know now my life is more like camping than not camping really
[speaker001:] um-hum do you have electricity out there yeah you've got a phone obviously
[speaker002:] oh yeah well actually as a matter of fact they just ran the phone three years ago we didn't have a phone
[speaker001:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker002:] and they didn't have phone lines I mean there was you just couldn't get a phone
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and uh we're on the we're third from the end on the electric string
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] so uh and we're at the end of the mail route like I said we are probably as far as you can get from a Seven Eleven and still be in Texas
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I guess so huh
[speaker002:] but uh you know right now uh what we did my wife and I is we got a a mobile home
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] one of these twelve by forty eight's that got repaid
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh I swapped them a Cadillac for it and I put it out here on the land figuring I'd build a house some day you know I'm in construction and uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know I just had this place you know to shower up while I was you know out here you know putting up fence and building driveway and drilling well and all that stuff that you have to do before you can even put a house in you know
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh I came home from work one Friday afternoon and our truck was packed everything we had was in boxes and my wife said uh we're moving
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] and I said where she said out to the trailer and I said oh no she said yep I said okay so we've been uh roughing it out here about three years but it's not bad I we got color TV and microwave I mean you know it's not horrible but it's it's a lot like camping
[speaker001:] um-hum uh-huh yeah well I grew up in California in southern uh central California right in the valley so it's forty five minute drive to the mountains and
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] um so my dad loved fishing and camping so we'd go up first we went up just uh with a Toyota pick up truck and laid out our sleeping bags under the stars and you know cooked our um hot dogs by the fire or whatever
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] but then later my mom and dad got a camper so uh we've kind of moved up yeah a little bit in the world
[speaker002:] became civilized  yep my mom goes camping you know she she takes her uh motor home you know she's got one of these huge Winnebago's with a refrigerator and air conditioning color TV microwave oven you know she just roughing it for me is you know going to the Holiday Inn and getting a shower you know
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and but you know she has a lot of fun
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and mostly it's just a way to she she goes to dog shows see she shows dogs and uh you can sneak a dog into a motel but you can't sneak ten dogs into a motel
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum no
[speaker002:] and so she you know takes the motor home and she made a deal with my dad that she'd take all the dogs with her when she went dog showing and she but if he'd buy her a motor home so he did
[speaker001:] um-hum  yeah
[speaker002:] but as far as as camping my wife and I had plans to uh not really camp per se but to drive up the you know Highway One there in in California
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh as soon as we get this house finished I'm gonna need a vacation
[speaker001:] yeah oh that's a that'll be pretty that's really pretty out there so a lot of nice places