[speaker001:] so what kind of music do you like
[speaker002:] I like all kinds of music actually
[speaker001:] yeah that's same here
[speaker002:] I'm kind of partial to country western I like that
[speaker001:] do you
[speaker002:] and I like mood music like you know when I'm in the mood for that I like semi-classical
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] the real classics I'm not as familiar with as you know the ordinary sounds that you hear every day type of thing
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah that's about that's about all I listen to is the classical stuff we have a we have a really good classical radio station here
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] it's uh gets no money from the state or the feds or anybody it's uh one hundred percent listener supported
[speaker002:] oh huh
[speaker001:] and it's a twenty four hour station
[speaker002:] oh that's fantastic
[speaker001:] yeah they they get a lot of support here
[speaker002:] well we have a similar um radio station here and because of the uh people I guess being pressured to have advertisers you know a lot of the stations have to have advertisers they kind of like
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] compromised and they do some of it at like certain hours but it's not always at a time when you can you know sit down and listen to it so
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you you kind of get trapped into listening to whatever there is available type of thing you know
[speaker001:] yeah yeah that's the good thing about them they do no advertising that's it's really nice just music
[speaker002:] uh-huh we have that on TV we have two public uh broadcasting systems uh channel two and thirty six also that are publicly supported and they have excellent programming
[speaker001:] yeah I like I like PBS
[speaker002:] yeah yep same thing
[speaker001:] uh PBS here you can't get it unless you have cable
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and that really upsets me because I won't pay cable prices because there's it's it's useless having cable I think
[speaker002:] it is it's expensive
[speaker001:] it's uh it's far too expensive and they don't have anything on there
[speaker002:] no and the the problem is that they can do it at will you know like up the prices and you're if you have it you just have to pay it
[speaker001:] yeah exactly
[speaker002:] you know that's the hard part
[speaker001:] I've almost given in a couple of times and gotten it every time I get one of those special offers in the mail but
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] I've avoided the temptation so far but I sure do miss PBS
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] because they they have lots of good stuff Masterpiece Theatre and mystery and nature
[speaker002:] yep see we have cable here
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and almost everyone here has cable and it it's uh it's good because you don't need the outside antennas with your TV and stuff and it gives you a lot more um
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] of the other you know of the widest uh uh television that's available to you
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah I I had cable before I uh came up here and I miss some of it I mean we had pretty good cable where I was but I miss Discovery Channel and A&E and CNN
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah that's what I like yep right and I love that
[speaker001:] you know I'm having CNN withdrawal pains
[speaker002:] uh-huh do you go to the theatre for for music uh
[speaker001:] every once in a while um
[speaker002:] have you been to the opera ever
[speaker001:] uh occasionally down in Charlotte
[speaker002:] yeah oh that's nice
[speaker001:] yeah it it's it's pretty good
[speaker002:] I've seen Man of La Mancha and uh a few of those you know that in Boston and uh I enjoyed it thoroughly I really did
[speaker001:] um yeah
[speaker002:] I've seen a few musicals and I uh go to Atlantic City once in a while and I always like to catch some shows when I'm there
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] especially like when they have special singers and things and La Cage au Faux that was excellent
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I been into Boston a few times uh I was there last year during the Fourth of July thing and went out to the um
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] Esplanade and listened to the Boston Pops and
[speaker002:] oh wow well we're only about two hours from there yeah
[speaker001:] they're good they're really oh really yeah I Boston's okay I mean I wouldn't want to live there but it's a nice place to visit
[speaker002:] no right in fact I
[speaker001:] yeah it's crowded I know that
[speaker002:] sure is
[speaker001:] it's murder driving in that place
[speaker002:] isn't it awful
[speaker001:] yeah and I always get stuck in the in the afternoon traffic
[speaker002:] oh yeah I I think that the commute to to and from work has to be the worst horror show because even the breakdown lane is used for a passing you know a travel lane in the morning
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and that's really I think that's a very serious thing you know I'm surprised they haven't had more you know really fatal accidents out there doing that
[speaker001:] well I tell you the way people are driving nowadays I'm surprised we're not killing more people than we are
[speaker002:] oh I know it's true it's true
[speaker001:] seems like drivers are getting worse and worse every year
[speaker002:] so what are you majoring in
[speaker001:] um human factors
[speaker002:] oh and and what is that
[speaker001:] that's um well it's sort of difficult to explain it's it's industrial engineering and you look at applications and things from the human from the human factor standpoint how does it interface with the person using it
[speaker002:] oh oh I see
[speaker001:] and and
[speaker002:] yeah we had someone from uh do some ergonomics in our area do you do
[speaker001:] yeah it that's very similar
[speaker002:] cover some of that yeah
[speaker001:] yeah very similar um uh specializing in the computer and you know uh interfacing with computers and software and all that kind of good stuff
[speaker002:] oh oh oh oh well then this is right up your alley what they're trying
[speaker001:] yeah this is uh sort of the same sort of thing that's why it's it was the uh professor who brought this thing in he'd gone to a conference
[speaker002:] yeah yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] down there and brought this thing up I yeah sure I'll do it
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] why not
[speaker002:] really
[speaker001:] hey if TI wants to give me five bucks a phone call that's okay
[speaker002:] sure sure
[speaker001:] you have to talk to all kinds of neat people all over the place
[speaker002:] yeah it's true it is in in fact I have a friend of mine that moved to North Carolina she's um an emergency room nurse she does the operating room
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh she's been down there a couple years and she really loves it
[speaker001:] where's she at
[speaker002:] I don't know the city
[speaker001:] yeah there's
[speaker002:] all I know is it's down in in North Carolina in fact the last time she was up I meant to ask her you know what city she was in I didn't but she said it's really nice
[speaker001:] yeah there's not too many not too many big ones around here
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] uh matter fact we don't have any big ones after you know after being used to places like Boston and Atlanta you come here and you know they people think Charlotte is the big town you know
[speaker002:] yeah oh wow
[speaker001:] and it's small
[speaker002:] really
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] what's the population
[speaker001:] uh Charlotte oh what about quarter of a million
[speaker002:] oh that's that's pretty good size though
[speaker001:] oh it's fairly good size I mean it's it's not it's not small but it's certainly small by Atlanta standards
[speaker002:] yeah yeah yeah
[speaker001:] course everything's small consider compared to Atlanta
[speaker002:] I I liked Atlanta too I have a sister-in-law that lives in Atlanta
[speaker001:] yeah my my brother and uh sister-in-law live there I like
[speaker002:] they she uh she in fact went from Massachusetts to uh Florida then to Atlanta and she really really likes it
[speaker001:] yeah Atlanta's Atlanta's a good city it really is uh you have to get used to that cotton picking traffic on two eighty five
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but uh if you if you miss it at the right time of the day then you're okay
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] but it always seemed like when I was there I was always finishing I lived in Duluth which is uh north of Atlanta well not north it's more east
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh along I eighty five
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and I would always be on the other end of two eighty five having to go all the way around two eighty five and then onto eighty five to go home and it was always at the end of the day
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] I never managed to plan my departure right
[speaker002:] the airport's something down there
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] oh my God I I swear those planes going or coming going or coming
[speaker001:] yeah yeah it's scary
[speaker002:] it is it's um
[speaker001:] it's scary they they rival even uh Chicago on uh departure and arrival uh number of arrivals every day
[speaker002:] yes unbelievable in fact when we went down to visit one time we just sat there and we watched I couldn't believe
[speaker001:] yeah oh it's a busy it's a busy place and they have amazingly few accidents there
[speaker002:] the traffic it is I know isn't it
[speaker001:] amazingly few
[speaker002:] unreal
[speaker001:] because uh I mean if you're flying anywhere down here you always go through Atlanta you can't avoid it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] it's the hub city
[speaker002:] yep yep
[speaker001:] and uh God
[speaker002:] I went there to to visit the Underground when that was you know the Underground City
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] and I thought that was really neat
[speaker001:] yeah that's super it's getting even better too
[speaker002:] that amazing oh really
[speaker001:] yeah they they just they never stop doing things to it
[speaker002:] is that right
[speaker001:] all kinds of good stuff go
[speaker002:] course I haven't been there in about uh eight years
[speaker001:] yeah last well see I left there in uh eighty
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] what was it eighty six
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so it's been it's been five years for me
[speaker002:] five years the the growth in that place is phenomenal
[speaker001:] yeah it just doesn't stop
[speaker002:] they don't stand still that's for sure
[speaker001:] I mean it
[speaker002:] we're having our problems out this way with the banking crisis and
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] credit unions and all that kind of good stuff
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and it's starting to effect you know the economy
[speaker001:] sure
[speaker002:] because of uh the uh businesses that have their money tied up
[speaker001:] yeah exactly
[speaker002:] every place you go you know the
[speaker001:] couple of years ago I was thinking about moving to Massachusetts but uh boy I'm glad I didn't
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] because it's really going downhill up there
[speaker002:] it has I don't know what they're going to have to do to boost it but they need to do something quick
[speaker001:] well you know I I was when when the big boom was going on I was thinking well Dukakis must be an absolute genius
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and then I I I really think that all of that was just you know temporary growth and everything to make him look good for the Presidential election
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] because it certainly wasn't sustained
[speaker002:] sometimes I wonder though if the presidential election isn't what really did everything in because he wasn't really paying attention to business you know you can't do both things well
[speaker001:] well yeah but on the other hand if it if it needed his personal intervention all the time then it wasn't a good system anyway
[speaker002:] no true but uh
[speaker001:] you know it should it should have been rolling right along without him
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know good a good chief executive would be able to sit back and not do anything
[speaker002:] that's true yep that's true
[speaker001:] hopefully
[speaker002:] yeah somebody has to watch the store though you can't really you know without overseeing
[speaker001:] no that's true and and and Lord knows with that legislature up there they probably did all kinds of things while he wasn't looking
[speaker002:] sure sure
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] look at what happened just in Washington alone God
[speaker001:] yeah well you can 't
[speaker002:] it's mind boggling
[speaker001:] you can't trust legislators anyway
[speaker002:] no  well it's been interesting talking to you
[speaker001:] yeah we need we didn't talk too much about music but we had a good conversation
[speaker002:] but oh yeah right I hope to hear