[speaker001:] what you want to start
[speaker002:] uh it it uh it doesn't matter um we're discussing the capital punishment I believe and um
[speaker001:] right yeah right yeah I I suppose I should of
[speaker002:] which I am am pro capital punishment except that I don't like the way it's done
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh yeah I I I uh I guess I I hate to see anyone die uh but uh I guess these people that go around and and kill children and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] women and everything else without any remorse uh I don't think they deserve to to live and be supported by us the rest of their lives
[speaker002:] I I agree I I'm capital the capital punishment is necessary in in many cases but uh the it's not a deterrent um or our jails would not be so full there wouldn't be so many people on Death Row
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I think it needs to be something uh uh a throwback to where they did a uh public execution where it's visible
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh something you know not gruesome but but something where where people knew that it was it was a deterrent and it was equal for all people if you committed a certain crime you were going to receive a death penalty and it was going to happen to you
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] no stays of execution no no loopholes no
[speaker001:] well and and even even that I don't really know if that would help I think lot of these people do it uh mainly because of of TV and and double double reason mainly they they see it being done on TV and also the fact of of notoriety I mean they become well known they are almost like like a big star
[speaker002:] notoriety um-hum yes yes but but they they know that their chances of actually receiving the death penalty are minimal they know that they will probably be out in ten to twelve years
[speaker001:] yeah uh-huh
[speaker002:] that they're going to write a book they're gonna go on talk shows they're gonna that that that's a reward
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh for a heinous crime rather than uh having them pay the penalty which is forfeiture of their life
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] in in complete uh advance of any notoriety
[speaker001:] yeah well I I I think if they went according to uh the Bible where it does say an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth a life for a life uh you take a life you give yours
[speaker002:] um-hum right right
[speaker001:] uh uh uh that's for sure there's exceptions to the rule I mean if if it's an accidental taking then uh you look at that but you know most of these people that down right go right and and do it out of pure pleasure
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh I don't uh like to see that I guess also the fact that they say it's not a deterrent it is a deterrent in the in the sense that that person will never do it again
[speaker002:] well yes they will it
[speaker001:] not not not if he's killed he can't do it again
[speaker002:] oh and it yeah well correct that's correct yes yeah if if he indeed receives the death penalty and it is it is executed yes
[speaker001:] the death penalty uh-huh
[speaker002:] but but the the the chances are not great that that will happen
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] yet there's a greater chance that he'll be back out on the streets in twelve years
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah well I I guess I'm also looking at beyond even that I I I guess I been thinking about it and I don't have a definite opinion but uh repeat uh crimes
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh maybe not the the more mild ones but you know a more severe ones especially on armed armed robbery and stuff where they been taking from elderly people and not just taking the money but
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] beating them half to death
[speaker002:] that right
[speaker001:] just for pleasure too and
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] I I guess you got to look at something like that do they deserve to uh remain on this earth too
[speaker002:] well you you know you you could carry it uh to that if uh if they are a repeat offender and and you know that as soon as you let them out on the streets they are going to do this unfortunately the way our system of jurisprudence is set up um you only receive the death penalty for capital crimes and of course uh uh battery or assault or that's not a capital crime so you you wouldn't be able to under our system
[speaker001:] right right
[speaker002:] now China and a few other countries have a little different view of that um you get caught with dope there and you die period
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] there is there is no no appeals there is no