[speaker001:] uh well uh having sort of recently gone through the school system I seem to be younger than most people who who talk on this thing I'm I'm just graduating college graduating from college uh I didn't really perceive much of a of a problem with the school system however when you compare it to school systems like they have in Japan and again you can compare just about everything thing to Japan and we look like we we don't have anything um it seems to be not difficult enough for students not challenging enough and just not generally competitive enough um however I if it weren't for our needless uh competition with Japan I I'd I'd think that that the school systems system works at a pretty good pace
[speaker002:] I don't know um I haven't it's been um well seventy nine since I was at school at high school and um
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I've seen things change I don't know if I've seen things change enough that I can actually because I wasn't really like listening to the world go by back then so it's hard to compare you know what I mean
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] but um it seems like when I lived I lived in Chicago I've I've lived down here I hear the dropout rates from the schools and I certainly see how much I pay in real estate taxes every year
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and I begin to wonder if I'm really getting my money's worth
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] I mean I I've seen so many different things so so many different bad reports coming out of the school system and I recognize that there are good schools out there I mean somebody's getting getting a good education because we continue to employ people
[speaker001:] right  but um
[speaker002:] I don't I don't understand the um I don't understand I guess why the schools don't seem to have such a high dropout rate in the big cities
[speaker001:] uh well I I don't pretend to understand that either uh but I'm not quite sure that it's the kind of thing that ought to be blamed on the schools but then again I'm not quite sure where the blame ought to be put um because the the dropout rate is in those areas it's it's high in those areas where also there's poverty and and crime and they all seem to go together and it seems like if you could eliminate one of of the parts of that circle whether wherever you have the dropout rate and crime and you know general poverty kind of conditions that things ought to get better so uh and the other two all oh they're all three social issues and could be addressed by the government in anyways and clearly to me is a kind of government thing to to fix but it's just like I I don't expect them to know which which which part is best to fix just like I don't know it's it's a complicated issue I I still don't think I would directly blame it directly on the school
[speaker002:] I don't know if I blame it on the school I think I think I blame it I think I blame it on a couple of different things I think I blame it on the school system um
[speaker001:] well that's what I meant when I said the school
[speaker002:] yeah I don't blame it on the teachers in the school I although I think that I do know for a fact that some of the teachers that I know personally get paid an awful lot more than well they do quite well for themselves
[speaker001:] hm well that that's odd because I don't think the teachers in my school district uh were well paid
[speaker002:] no not all school districts are well paid but there are some school districts out there that are very well paid I mean I know one family that's got they're both teachers and they both have like second jobs that they work in the afternoons they both work all summer full-time and from their teaching job alone they pull in forty grand each
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah well it it
[speaker002:] I mean that family is making over a hundred grand and I'm I mean okay okay yes I agree that teaching our kids is important
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] however these people who only work eight hours a day at it from seven to three and they only work nine months a year and they get an awful lot of breaks in between and that's my tax dollars that I'm spending on that and I don't even have kids
[speaker001:] yeah well well well that's true but that there's you can always play games with uh talking about whoa look at this my tax dollars are paying for this this is wrong but when you're talk and there's really not much you can directly do about that I think that that if if there is a problem with the school system uh from my it's been my perception that the school teachers and school officials are not that well uh uh paid that perhaps that might be one area that that could be improved uh where you have other professional jobs and this this is a profession and as a matter of fact it's a pretty big influence on on