[speaker001:] okay go ahead what are you gonna fix for Christmas dinner
[speaker002:] you know I I think the simpler the better
[speaker001:] I think so too yes
[speaker002:] too often we spend all day cooking and uh it's like Erma Bombeck's cartoon said it  you spend eighteen hours fixing your dinner and it takes twelve minutes to eat it
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] less than twelve minutes
[speaker001:] well we're gonna fix a turkey and a ham we're gonna have about fifteen people for dinner and we're gonna have all the fixings with that the dressing and also you know everything with the ham so we're gonna have a real nice dinner
[speaker002:] well the I think that sounds like fun
[speaker001:] the thing that I think that's missing at the uh little Christmas parties though is uh fruits you fix you put out grapes people eat those up first and
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] you put out strawberries they grab for those first
[speaker002:] right and we kind of get uh overdosed on the sweets don't we
[speaker001:] I think it right I think that's what the problem may maybe that's I think that way because I can't have those sweets so
[speaker002:] well they usually don't do a whole lot good for us and uh
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] uh I'm been trying to think of something uh nifty to make for neighbors and uh
[speaker001:] for neighbors I used to just bake cakes and there's there you go more sweet stuff
[speaker002:] yes uh right I thought people kind of get so overloaded and most people are trying to lose weight anyway
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] and uh so it's kind of hard to get away from that isn't it hard to kind of deviate a little bit uh
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] so have you got any good recipes that don't have uh
[speaker001:] well I I do but they're at home I don't have I'm at work right now and I don't have them with me
[speaker002:] yes that's true that's right
[speaker001:] I have some sugarless recipes
[speaker002:] that's right are you diabetic or
[speaker001:] no I'm hypoglycemic
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] so I have um recipes to make cookies without sugar we put uh fresh applesauce you know fresh fruit in it applesauce and raisins and things like that in it
[speaker002:] no you probably that's the kind of direction you wanna go with food anyway
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] and uh nowadays food it's uh almost everybody eats out of these boxes don't they the TV dinners or the
[speaker001:] they what
[speaker002:] I think food it's really changing to not spending so much time everybody's such in a hurry
[speaker001:] uh you yeah they don't wanna spend time cooking and baking and
[speaker002:] well and I don't think they have the time as much maybe
[speaker001:] well when you buy those prepared foods in a store like that they're all they either have too much salt in it in them or too much sugar in them
[speaker002:] oh yes I'm uh I just haven't you know acquired a taste for them have you
[speaker001:] no because they're too salty most of those
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] dinners like that
[speaker002:] most of them are
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] in fact turkey uh would be my choice of meal anytime I I'm a turkey lover and
[speaker001:] oh yes
[speaker002:] I could eat turkey
[speaker001:] mine too
[speaker002:] unfortunately it's not the easiest uh or it takes a while to prepare it
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] but uh it's not necessarily hard it just you got to plan on five or six hours to cook the thing so
[speaker001:] well that's why people usually have them on holidays because you're usually home visiting and
[speaker002:] you're home and you've got the time to cook them
[speaker001:] and it doesn't it smell good in the oven out as it's cooking I said doesn't it smell good
[speaker002:] yeah in the it just sets the
[speaker001:] baking in the oven
[speaker002:] the mood I don't know what uh Thanksgiving or Christmas would be without especially Thanksgiving without the turkey
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] wouldn't quite taste right would it
[speaker001:] huh-uh it wouldn't be Thanksgiving dinner without the turkey
[speaker002:] well even going out to eat we had discussed going out to eat and uh I don't even care at your best restaurant it's just not the same on a holiday to
[speaker001:] yeah when I go out to eat on Thanksgiving I still have a turkey dinner
[speaker002:] yes yes you'd still have to choose that wouldn't you
[speaker001:] uh-huh I've gone out on Thanksgiving like that and had other foods and then I'd leave and I'd say well that doesn't it doesn't seem like it's Thanksgiving to me
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] it seems like another day it's because you didn't we didn't have any turkey
[speaker002:] you right right you kind of get used to that um well I think I hope that the trend is to change to more health conscious foods and not have so many additives and uh preservatives and you know you it's hard to even to get a cold cereal that you don't feel like it's sugar
[speaker001:] that's right that's right well and uh the women just don't have time to cook anymore like they used to because most of them work
[speaker002:] no well and I don't mind cooking it's just that you know after you think of the hours it takes you if you get very elaborate sometimes it doesn't seem very rewarding to cook that many hours and then you usually have a a mess