[speaker001:] why don't you tell me about the Brewers
[speaker002:] well uh I guess the thing about the Brewers is I think their personnel policies have been a little misguided lately um I think that's their main problem uh they seem to have have stuck with the same core of players uh Robin Yount Paul Molitor and Jim Gantner who uh they're real good players but they seem to just depend on them to produce a pennant and it it doesn't it isn't working
[speaker001:] well the problem with the Rangers is they've got a lot of offense they just don't have any pitching and really haven't had any pitching for years they're the top offensive team around but defense and pitching wins your games over the long haul
[speaker002:] except for papa Ryan anyway
[speaker001:] well that's true but he only comes every five times so
[speaker002:] yeah that's right he can't win them all for him
[speaker001:] he can't win them all and he's getting a little bit up there
[speaker002:] yeah I think uh the thing about the Brewers is too their pitching they never have really had real good pitching uh last time they had really good pitching was back in the early eighties when they got to the World Series was with uh people like Vuckovich and Fingers
[speaker001:] oh yes Rollie Fingers
[speaker002:] yeah yeah and of course uh he got them to the Series but then just before the Series that year in eighty two he um uh threw his elbow out or something shoulder or elbow I can't remember which and uh they're number two right-hander in the bullpen Pete Ladd who was kind of a rookie that year uh had to take his place and uh I think that's why they lost the series because in in game two in Saint Louis they had a pretty good lead going into late innings and Ladd got rattled when he didn't get some calls and they ended up losing the game uh Ole Mustache Fingers would not have done that
[speaker001:] well Rollie was Rollie was more uh well I guess he's uh is he in the Hall of Fame already I don't even remember
[speaker002:] I can't remember if he's made it or not yet he he may not have been I don't know when he retired actually
[speaker001:] you got to be retired for five years to be eligible
[speaker002:] yeah but that was I think eighty two was well eighty one was the year I think that he won the the uh Cy Young and the MVP and the Fireman of the Year Award all at the same time I think but uh but in eighty two I think he won something some kind of award had a lot of saves anyway
[speaker001:] yeah we had a game here where uh we had Goose Gossage this year and Goose and uh Ryan combine and they got I don't know Ryan got his three hundred something win and at the same time Goose got his three hundred and something save and they were you know the same number and they said that it was an unusual occurrence to have that
[speaker002:] well I'd forgotten that Gossage was with the Rangers the the he was this year last year
[speaker001:] yeah but he's not coming back
[speaker002:] now did they pick him up uh sometime in the middle of the season or what
[speaker001:] well no they got him at the very beginning of the season but he and the manager and manager Bobby Valentine didn't come along so
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] Goose is Goose is history
[speaker002:] yeah well he's been quite a reliever in his time
[speaker001:] oh yeah he's a he's he's definitely headed to the Hall of Fame But the Rangers have you know a a pretty good lineup now um with the with the addition of the uh Dickey Thorne at uh short stop that ought to help them but their problem is other than Ryan and an occasional flash of brilliance of other people there's just nobody there
[speaker002:] yeah well we'll be looking for them to uh to improve in that area I guess because at least the uh now that I think about them a little bit I'm getting sort of back through the football season back into baseball I realize when you think of the Rangers now you got a real good looking young outfield there for the most part and uh quite a few of the infielders are uh probably have good real good careers still ahead of them I'm not sure why they got rid of Buechele but I guess it worked out for him okay
[speaker001:] well at least he got to play in a championship the Rangers have never won the division so we're we're obviously not going to last year
[speaker002:] yeah oh Inky went the wrong way though didn't he
[speaker001:] yeah I think he's history he is history
[speaker002:] now who did they trade him to I forgot Cleveland
[speaker001:] Detroit
[speaker002:] Detroit
[speaker001:] well they didn't yeah they he went to Detroit they really didn't get much for him
[speaker002:] oh oh they released him really didn't they
[speaker001:] yeah they released him and he had to go around trying to sign up with somebody
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but he proved to be a total disaster
[speaker002:] my goodness when he was when he was when he could really get into a ball though he was uh had a lot of power I tell you he reminds me a lot of Gorman Thomas remember him
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] center fielder for the Brewers there for a while there was a guy that
[speaker001:] yeah he did something he I saw I saw him hit a grand slam once in a game when I was there but I also saw him drop a ball that cost a couple runs ended up costing the game so he could you know he could be both brilliant and with a bat and just a disaster in the field
[speaker002:] uh well I don't think his fielding was generally that bad he uh as a matter of fact he was to
[speaker001:] it was early on it got better but it was pretty bad at the beginning
[speaker002:] yeah right yeah he did get better and I think uh he was one of George Bamburger's big projects when he took over at the Brewers at Milwaukee he was the guy that was up and down uh