[speaker001:] Okay. Uh, read any good books lately? [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Uh, yes, I, I've read, uh, several good books lately. Uh, lot of them related to, uh, business and financial matters since that's what I do for a living.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay. Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] How about yourself?
[speaker001:] Uh, well I'm in graduate school and so I read a lot of books but I don't know if I consider very many of them good [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Uh, I haven't read a book for enjoyment since, I guess, around Christmas. Uh, I [throat clearing] re-, received, uh, uh, several books for Christmas and at Christmas break I read, uh, SARUM by, uh, uh, a fellow named Rutherford.
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] Uh, it's the history of, uh, well it's sort of the his-, the historical fiction about, uh, the Salisbury area in, in England.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And so, I, I really enjoyed that book a lot. Uh, he's not quite as good as, you know, Michener or some of, uh, some of the other historical writers. But he, he did this job well, so.
[speaker002:] Well, that sounds good.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Uh, do you find th-, do you find you have much chance to read for, for just pleasure or mostly for business?
[speaker002:] No, I read for pleasure some also. I read a book recently called IRON JOHN.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Have you seen that by Bly?
[speaker001:] I don't think I have seen it.
[speaker002:] Okay. Well it's a book about,
[speaker001:] [Noise].
[speaker002:] uh, uh, Greek gods and, and Greek, uh, mythology
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] as well as, uh, man and interacting with other men and a book about, uh, men and how they mature through life.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Oh.
[speaker002:] And how they deal with life itself [sniffing].
[speaker001:] Okay. I think I have heard about that. Yeah.
[speaker002:] But it's, uh, it's all revolved around, uh, mythology.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Uh, as far as, uh, traditions from, uh, other cultures and our culture.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And how we, uh, interact with one another.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Yeah, that sounds great. Did, did it have something to mention about, uh, sort of, uh, cultural rituals of, of manhood?
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] Okay. Yeah, I have heard of that. I have, uh, someone suggested that I read it. Is it IRON JOHN?
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] Okay. Good.
[speaker002:] By Bly, B L Y, I believe it is.
[speaker001:] B L Y?
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Okay. Great.
[speaker002:] And, uh, it's a very interesting book.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Uh, what are your favorite, uh, do you have a favorite subject to read, whether it be science fiction or, or history or,
[speaker002:] Well, it depends again if we're talking about [LAUGHTER], uh, I read a lot of religious books.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Uh, just because I have an interest in that area.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And I read a lot of books in the area of, uh, uh, psychology and self-help type, uh, materials.
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] Uh, always trying to understand people
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] better and understand myself in relation to other people and try to understand where the people are coming from because I'm in a people business.
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] And, uh, so that, that's, my work is my hobby [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. That
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] So I, I enjoy it.
[speaker001:] sounds great [LAUGHTER]. Uh, who is your, whose your favorite religious author?
[speaker002:] Well, I don't know if I have a favorite
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] uh, religious author. I would have to say that, uh, some of the ones that consistently put out good materials,
[speaker001:] [Rustling].
[speaker002:] uh, you know, that, that's difficult because [lipsmack] one person might write one book extremely well and some other ones might not write as well.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Uh, I had to stop here and think a second. One of the ones that I've read recently that I've read several of his books and I thought that each one of his books were good. He's the man out of San Antonio. And, uh,
[speaker001:] Max Lucado? [Noise].
[speaker002:] Max Lucado.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Max consistently writes good books.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Uh, he's a great man. I've met him several times. Uh,
[speaker002:] Yes. I know him, yeah.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing] But
[speaker001:] Uh
[speaker002:] uh, there's other authors also that have uh, uh, that write good books from time to time, but not consistently put out the materials all the time [sniffing].
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Uh, I'd say another, which is a local writer here in Plano, uh, is, uh, I'm trying to think of his name. He's with the Bible church. And that is, uh, [pause], I see his name but I can't, I mean I see him but I can't see his name [LAUGHTER] [sniffing]. But he, uh, he talks about, uh, he talks about a lot of different topics and,