[speaker001:] The way, I'll go ahead and start the way I work, uh, the way I dress
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] for work is, uh, this year, nineteen ninety-one has been really suit and tie, or I shouldn't say suit, but coat and tie every day.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] A, a year ago, I changed jobs from being a researcher
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] to doing marketing for the research group.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Which means kind of a, I guess it's a different set of standards, I guess.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] So, uh, I, I dress almost the same every day. I mean, pretty much it's a white shirt and
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] slacks and shoes and
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] a coat.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] But, it was very different before. How do you dress?
[speaker002:] Well, I'm a drafter, so I just wear blue jeans and tennis shoes and I have sweatshirt on today.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And that's pretty much the norm for me. If I come in in a dress, everybody's shocked [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah, I understand.
[speaker002:] They ask me, you know, what are you doing in a dress and it's usually I haven't done my laundry lately [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Ran out of jeans [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I understand, that's funny [throat clearing]. So, does it change?
[speaker002:] No.
[speaker001:] Your dress, no.
[speaker002:] No, huh-uh.
[speaker001:] So, or, I guess, do you have things like presentations to do or anything like that?
[speaker002:] No, huh-uh.
[speaker001:] So, back in my old job, up until through nineteen eighty
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I would usually wear blue jeans and pullover shirts and the like, but, probably once a month or so, there was some reason that I would have to put on a suit.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] For a customer presentation or something.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah. Every now and then I'll get dressed up and come in, but that's for my husband's job and not mine [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Oh, I see, I understand.
[speaker002:] I have to go to a business meeting once a month with him, but [LAUGHTER],
[speaker001:] Oh. Well, that's interesting.
[speaker002:] So,
[speaker001:] Let's see, uh, what else about this, uh, it, it seems like T I is pretty cut and dried with two, like, two or three levels.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] That there's the t-, upper management that always wears gray suits.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And the people that don't, uh, I would, if you, if I want to say don't have power or don't have authority or whatever
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] like I used to be in that research
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and I guess you are.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] That we dress in the jeans and then there's kind of the, the branch manager level
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] or marketing people that kind of do that middle thing.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] But there's not much,
[speaker002:] Mi-, middle of the road.
[speaker001:] It's nice that there's not a requirement
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] for it.
[speaker002:] Sometimes I think there should be. Some of these women around here [LAUGHTER] look like they came off of Harry Hines.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah, right [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah, I guess you see those once in a while.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] And you know the, they have the no shorts deal, and some of these mini skirts, you know, are worse than shorts ever thought about being.
[speaker001:] Sure.
[speaker002:] But, uh,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] You know, that's, I guess that's one of the things you got to put up with when you don't have a dress code.
[speaker001:] That's right, that's right. I guess they're, the, isn't there a dress code, something about spaghetti straps, I'm not even sure what they are.
[speaker002:] Supposedly and backless things
[speaker001:] Oh, backless, all right.
[speaker002:] but, I've seen those, too, but,
[speaker001:] Okay, so this wasn't necessarily a big conversation, but, I think we,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] we did it [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Uh, yeah.
[speaker001:] Okay, and, and your name was Lisa.
[speaker002:] Lisa.
[speaker001:] Great.
[speaker002:] Are you the Expressway sites?
[speaker001:] I am, yes, and I work in the north building.
[speaker002:] Oh, okay.
[speaker001:] Uh, well, thank you.
[speaker002:] Thank you.
[speaker001:] All right, good day.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, bye-bye.