[speaker001:] uh with regard to uh to jury trials I you know I I really feel as though uh jury trials are are uh whatever system has been been used historically in particular jurisdiction you know is really the the only kinds of things that you can use because the the jurisprudence is you know based on on uh you know on accumulated body of law and if if you have a situation where you change that body of law then all of sudden they they start they could start going back and digging up all these cases that uh that would be handled differently were they judged by today's standards so I I really don't think it they they can really do much of anything to change it what do you think
[speaker002:] um I I don't think so possibly in the jury selection would be the only just for example what we're seeing in California I guess yeah it makes you wonder um had the jury been a different group of people what would've happened with that outcome um and and the problems that that has come that has come from this decision that that jury came to after all of us witnessed what we did with the video tape beating um just makes you wonder I guess whether or not they
[speaker001:] well won't well maybe they used a little bit too much force with stuff like that but then then you know the defense lawyer addressed each and every one of those blows apparently
[speaker002:] um-hum that's that
[speaker001:] and you know the other two guys sat in the car
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and they didn't get beat up
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] you know Rodney got beat up because he he you know he purposes you know he involved himself in some sub self-destructive behavior
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh um just like the burning and looting is self-destruct everybody says well this is the nineties and they're gonna rebuild and it'll be even better
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh yes
[speaker001:] hey what do you think you know some some black guy with capital is gonna come in and invest in that area
[speaker002:] uh that's right
[speaker001:] with everybody with that mindset they they're they're gonna that whole area is gonna be turned into residential ghetto you know and and you might even be able to to use it for for a bombing test site you know
[speaker002:] they're only gonna suffer yeah they're only gonna suffer they they've defeated themselves with with their looting and violence um I understand why they were upset by the verdict just because even those of us that aren't black or uh don't live there or whatever we all saw the same thing on the on the tape and um
[speaker001:] well everybody's everybody's saying this is gonna be a new era we're gonna reexamine this thing hey the bunch the average person is gonna take a look at that and say suspicions confirmed they're a bunch of animals you know how can you really deal with an environment where you're gonna lose everything forty deaths I mean there are forty people that are dead as a result of that
[speaker002:] I know that's really ridiculous
[speaker001:] and I'm just trying to determine you know how you address and how you weigh you know Rodney getting getting the the hell beat out of him against you know forty deaths
[speaker002:] against forty other people being
[speaker001:] yeah and there's no other I I'm not sure exactly sure uh what the circumstances surrounding the deaths and I'm very upset that the news media has not identified those deaths and and pursued it you know because I'm interested in the circumstances surrounding this thing
[speaker002:] those deaths um-hum
[speaker001:] is it a looter that got shot by a store owner
[speaker002:] or just a bystander an innocent bystander or somebody got actually beat to death or what um
[speaker001:] I you know no tears yeah and and so I but I I suspect a number of them you know you you see film of people being pulled out of a car and shot you know in in the street
[speaker002:] it uh or or beaten
[speaker001:] and and my reaction is I would've run over fifty people before rather than stop and uh and there there would've been just uh nothing but carnage after after if I'd been at the wheel no one would've stopped me
[speaker002:] right that's that's exactly how I feel too I wouldn't have uh they wouldn't have stopped my car for any anything had I seen them coming but I was just wondering since you were you're in you're back east um and a little closer to the the bigger cities probably than we are in Idaho here
[speaker001:] right I'm inside the beltway
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] you know how capital gang they always say well inside the beltway they think thus and so and I say well wait a minute I'm inside the beltway and I don't think like that
[speaker002:] um-hum oh in what uh section of the government do you work
[speaker001:] I'm a government employee I'm with the FBI
[speaker002:] oh oh that's interesting
[speaker001:] yes and and so um uh and and the reason I'm doing this whole thing is because you know Rick who is another government employee wanted a speech segments of my speech that uh were done a year ago and he wanted another collection a year later
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh
[speaker001:] and so this is my seventh call a year ago I did eleven calls
[speaker002:] oh I see
[speaker001:] and so that's that's why uh uh that's that's why I'm religiously getting on the phone because I have a unique you know I have a unique situation here in that if I don't participate
[speaker002:] um-hum