[speaker001:] well what's your opinion on capital punishment
[speaker002:] well uh I uh I agree with it as long as uh as long as there's no no shadow of a doubt of guilt
[speaker001:] right I agree with that too I uh this this is probably going to be not a big debate or anything uh
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] I am for capital cu punishment only for murder I mean you know I think they asked in the recording uh what in in what crimes but only
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] if someone has murdered someone you know that's about the only thing but uh how is Georgia for uh capital punishment are they executing people or
[speaker002:] uh yeah yeah um not very often but they they do send some every now and then you know as
[speaker001:] what well needless to say Texas is uh probably the leader uh I we may have started you know capital punishment back up again and uh I think we've probably executed more people than any other state
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] but uh a case out in California what was it a week or so ago was rather interesting in how that uh they prolonged the guy that was supposed to be executed
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and I just I can't see any real value in just letting these people live out their sentences
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah it seems a little bit ridiculous because of just the tax dollar it takes to maintain somebody that's hopelessly you know just uh violent
[speaker001:] um-hum and
[speaker002:] and uh it's doesn't make much sense
[speaker001:] how do you feel about insanity pleas
[speaker002:] I uh I I don't think it's much of a a reason for um I I don't think it's much of a reason to get somebody off a off the hook I mean like uh Jeffrey Dahlmer I I don't know I haven't followed that since you know it was on the news but uh you know I've I've heard that there might be some insanity there I don't you know I'm I'm not at all up to date on that but you know if uh something like that if it if you can get off on sanity insanity on something like that which I I believe you know there's a certain degree of insanity there but that's certainly not
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I don't I don't believe it's uh an excuse by any means you know
[speaker001:] well I had heard of a case out in California of someone who had murdered his parents or some sort of thing and they put him away uh in an insane asylum you know because he pleaded insanity and after he was in maybe twelve years or so they let him out he went out and he killed five more people
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I just don't
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] I don't think that's uh an excuse at all
[speaker001:] well I guess it's sounds rather heartless but I guess if they're that bad if they're that badly off mentally then perhaps it's just as well to to end their life
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah yeah
[speaker001:] aren't we cruel people
[speaker002:] oh I don't I don't think so I mean I just you know if I I think in Japan you know when crime gets bad they you know they take a few criminals out in the public square and they execute them and crime goes down you you you know uh so there's I think it I think it works since most people don't believe in being forced you know
[speaker001:] well I say they may say it's not a deterrent and perhaps it isn't but I guess I just feel if nothing else it's justice I know that if someone murdered a member of my family I'd want justice done and I'd want to see them punished for their crime
[speaker002:] yeah yeah yeah I I agree
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] I agree
[speaker001:] uh perhaps the people in the Middle East have kind of a good idea you know if you steal something they cut off your hand and and the punishment fits the crime
[speaker002:] yeah yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] but uh
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I think that's uh not a bad idea of course there there'd be a lot of people that couldn't uh couldn't function for awhile you know until they got it through their heads that you know that was going to be enforced
[speaker001:] well this is very true
[speaker002:] you'd have to phase that one in slowly or I think or you would have
[speaker001:] use someone as an example and see how it worked
[speaker002:] a bunch of yeah but then you got to pick who it's going to be
[speaker001:] well I I was a little concerned I was going to get someone on the phone that was totally against capital punishment and in any conversation that I've had through this TI thing you know I've never met anybody that I got into a screaming argument with or even really disagreed with heavily but I thought this could be one you know it could be a very
[speaker002:] yeah yeah yeah