[speaker001:] okay um I think that in this day and age everyone needs to have some sort of exposure to community service because it it seems like and I'm I'm thinking of the community of community of people that are in jail now I think that maybe if if if some of those people had gotten exposed to the community gotten exposed to working with other people that some of the things that they did they would not have done because they would they understand people more they understand helping people more they understand the plight of people
[speaker002:] that's true um-hum I agree with you in the sense that uh I think that it's important for people to uh also share give something of themselves
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and uh I think that there's too much in the in uh a way of like self-gratification today
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and there's not enough sharing
[speaker001:] um-hum I would think that for like people that are just filthy filthy rich
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I think that they would benefit also in doing community service so that they can see and I'm I'm speaking about people that are like born rich
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] and that's all they know and I'm thinking that community service would help them uh just get a feel of what else is out there how other people are living you know if they were to work in in uh uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I don't know in a soup kitchen or something they would understand how other people live
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh you know on the same note if poor if poorer people uh were working to to serve the community I don't know they probably have a better perspective of of I don't know just life itself
[speaker002:] yeah and I think the Peace Corps is great too because uh it you go to different countries and you see
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh you know in fact I saw an interview on TV the other night with uh Patrick Swayze and he's making a movie in
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I think it's uh Calcutta or either India somewhere where it's a it's a very poor poor country
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and he said that people in the West he said since being there and I guess he's been there about six months he said that his whole idea of what's important has changed
[speaker001:] um-hum um
[speaker002:] and he said that people have no idea he said of of what human sacrifice is you know since being there he's he's learned to what it is to be poor and have nothing and yet those people have uh such uh a happy
[speaker001:] um-hum demeanor yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] uh yeah in in other words they don't dwell on on what they don't have they dwell on what they do have and they're happy with each other type of thing
[speaker001:] right that's great
[speaker002:] and he said that out here he said that when he comes back he knows that it it's just completely changed his life
[speaker001:] um-hum and I I think that that you know this on the same note being he was exposed to that and maybe he wasn't before and now he sees and I think that anybody that works
[speaker002:] right exactly
[speaker001:] in the in some kind of service or for the community or something they can see you know you don't see what you don't you can't know what you don't see
[speaker002:] uh-huh exactly right
[speaker001:] you know so and you have to experience some things you know a lot of people know that people that other people are poor
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but you they don't know what poor is
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] unless they actually see it and you know help or something
[speaker002:] uh-huh well I I know that it that must be true especially if you do something along the lines of uh you know helping them learn how to survive how to plant how to find water and I've seen so many uh
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] extraordinary things on TV that people have done
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] working in the Peace Corps and how you know uh the people or the community they worked in is so much better
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] it's like one person can make a difference
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and I I really believe that they can in something like that
[speaker001:] there's something I I've really been skeptical of you know when you watch television you'll see the service announcement for children in other countries
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and if you want to send like you know fifty cents a day
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] or something like that and you can help a child
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] it's I don't know I guess it's just me but I don't know whether to trust that or not I mean there are so many scams and things going on you know I would love to help somebody
[speaker002:] I know and how do you yeah
[speaker001:] you know but I just I can't bring myself to trust
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] this this company who's trying to do this or whatever it is
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know just because people are so I don't know just today people are just so money hungry that I think they would do anything
[speaker002:] I know it's true it really is it's the sad life I think today it's um
[speaker001:] and so I mean you don't know what they um-hum
[speaker002:] it's it it's not like it used to be even in in the years of my growing up I mean I'm fifty three years old and I have seen a town change from a town to a city
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and it's uh people you know grow from a small town to a large town
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and you would think that more people would be better you know share more do more you know be more community oriented and all but if they just get more uh
[speaker001:] um-hum right
[speaker002:] unto themselves kind of
[speaker001:] yeah more self-centered um
[speaker002:] right and and it's not the sharing of uh a neighbor to a neighbor
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and we would go out and not even lock our doors
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and not even worry about it
[speaker001:] but you can't do that today
[speaker002:] but today I mean you know it's like you wouldn't even think of doing that
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] if you don't have bars on the window you're not even safe you know
[speaker001:] yeah even when when I first moved to Dallas from New York it seemed like Dallas was so open you know everybody left their doors open you just run in the store you leave your car running
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] you know and this was only uh well I guess it has been awhile it's been almost ten years since I moved here and it's amazing now now how much it's changed I mean I don't go out I don't go outsid e at night you know
[speaker002:] yeah in Dallas they I was going to say because I I heard uh in fact I was talking to someone from Dallas uh just last week they was saying that uh in fact it was this one girl particularly that worked for TI and she had gone over seas to Tokyo
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and she asked them there if there was some anywhere that she shouldn't go because she was alone you know being a girl from another country and everything
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and she said they thought for a few seconds and they said uh no there's nowhere that you can go that you would have to be afraid they said to her that even if she left her purse
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] on the subway
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] okay that she would have that purse returned to her this is how confident they were okay with nothing missing
[speaker001:] wow wow
[speaker002:] okay this is a foreign country
[speaker001:] better um-hum
[speaker002:] and you would think you know uh being uh an American or whatever you know a foreigner there that that would be all the more reason that they'd take advantage of you
[speaker001:] um-hum um oh God that would be the exact opposite here I mean if you leave something anywhere you might as well forget it
[speaker002:] okay and she told me she said she could tell them for fifteen minutes places not to go in in and around Dallas
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and that's where she was from
[speaker001:] um-hum that is sad
[speaker002:] she said even choosing her apartment she had to be so careful because of being a woman alone
[speaker001:] yeah yeah that that's a big that's a big thing with me I live in a one bedroom I'm single
[speaker002:] you know she had there are certain uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I've I could live in an apartment I live in Waco okay and you either live in really low priced housing or you live on the other side of town in the high price apartments
[speaker002:] oh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and I live I don't make a lot of money but I live in the high price apartments simply because I feel safe here
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and I pay I'm paying probably the hundred or hundred and fifty dollars more than I would be paying somewhere else but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night and that to me is worth the extra money for me to be you know I feel very safe where I am
[speaker002:] yeah yeah yeah
[speaker001:] you know instead of
[speaker002:] and that that's why I think if people were more exposed to
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh especially uh young kids getting out of high school
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I mean at one time they would go into the service to have the same exposure and you know uh to further their worldliness so to speak
[speaker001:] um-hum right
[speaker002:] and go to see uh foreign countries that they would not necessarily be able to afford to see it was like they said join the Navy to see the world type of thing you know
[speaker001:] um-hum right right
[speaker002:] but nowadays they don't do that anymore it's not uh a thing uh a lot of young men don't even uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] have the desire to go into the service
[speaker001:] yeah they don't even consider it
[speaker002:] or to uh you know do something for someone else
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah and it
[speaker002:] and I don't know I I attributed I think a lot of that to women working
[speaker001:] to
[speaker002:] you know to mothers not being at home
[speaker001:] yes yes I was talking to someone yesterday about that and we were saying that the basic uh the the basic family is is disrupted these days
[speaker002:] the bonding process yep it very definitely is
[speaker001:] and so I think you know before the father would work and the mother you know would stay home and having that mother there that base I think was a big part of of family big part of
[speaker002:] that's right
[speaker001:] of what you know your your uh youngsters thought about what they did you know
[speaker002:] yep and the thing is like I think a man can afford to support a woman but the woman affords the luxuries
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] in in other words like anyone can live on a certain income no matter what it is you have to
[speaker001:] um-hum right right
[speaker002:] so to speak okay it it's what's important to you
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] now a family I I think that like girls today have children and six weeks later they're back to work
[speaker001:] um-hum right
[speaker002:] they don't even have a bonding with that child they don't ever ever see the
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] it's it's the most beautiful thing that happens between a mother and a child the first like say six years of life
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] so much happens in that period of time
[speaker001:] when I called
[speaker002:] and I mean once the child's in school if you had a job from say nine to three
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] big deal I mean they're they're in school you're at work that's great but it's kids that come home and don't have a mother there or the kids are at home in the morning and the
[speaker001:] right right