[speaker001:] do you exercise a lot
[speaker002:] um it's uh scaled back considerably uh right now my exercise is pretty much limited to uh softball league and occasional ride on the bike but uh I uh I was just recently well recently nine months ago got married and bought a house so my outside activities have been curtailed somewhat
[speaker001:] is mowing the lawn a new exercise
[speaker002:] yeah lawn it's a forty year old house so we are doing a lot of refurbish work and uh yeah painting lawn gutters you name it all kinds of stuff flower beds
[speaker001:] oh my I think that's considered exercise whether you want it or not
[speaker002:] yeah that that's true that's true it's there's always something to do and uh and and uh it keeps me going
[speaker001:] well you're you are so far ahead of me I used to uh
[speaker002:] but
[speaker001:] I used to walk two miles a day and I really enjoyed it
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] because the two miles went fairly quickly I could do it in twenty eight minutes
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and that's not stopping and talking to everyone along the way but it's a lot you know it's not too strenuous
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and I could sort all kinds of things out and make plans and everything but I don't know what I did to my knee I was crawling under a desk hooking up a computer
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I mashed it wrong or I did something
[speaker002:] oh gosh
[speaker001:] and the doctor has had me on medication and she doesn't want me to walk she said that's you know while it's healing you're going to mess it up so I can't walk
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] and uh she said you know the most conservative approach you do the medicine you do the medicine again and again before you think of surgery and I don't want her to think of surgery on my knee I don't want anyone to think about that
[speaker002:] uh-huh no that that's a tough situation
[speaker001:] ever that's that microscopic stuff you know uh-huh not my kneecap
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so I'm I'm being very good
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but I miss it I really do and I
[speaker002:] oh that it's so aggravating to uh to have an injury like that my wife uh runs or likes to run but uh she's well we moved we moved down to the north end of Oak Cliff in the Castle Park area
[speaker001:] oh really
[speaker002:] yeah and she started running down there and all the hills
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and she lasted about two weeks and her ankles couldn't take it anymore she was used to running you know flat tracks and whatnot and uh ever since that it's just been real difficult it's real aggravating because she starts in and her ankles will start hurting again and stuff even if she does get on flat ground so she's kind of in the same mode She was all ready to get back into it and start running uh five K's and ten K's and stuff this spring and she just hasn't been able to stick with the training schedule long enough to really get back in shape and when you want to do it it's really really aggravating you know it it's one thing to get motivated to start doing the exercise and it's another thing to to already be past that and then not be able to because of your health
[speaker001:] I can you understand that uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh I don't really want to I just know I need to
[speaker002:] well it's
[speaker001:] you know I make myself do it and if I do it okay I don't love it
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know but I will do it
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] uh it's not anything I would want to but I can really tell the difference since I have not been able to walk I have got to be so much more careful with what I do
[speaker002:] yeah yeah uh-huh it is and you know you you
[speaker001:] it's depressing
[speaker002:] you don't well speaking for myself I don't sleep as well when I am not exercising and uh it's really it's harder to get out of bed in the morning and all kinds of stuff it your body just gets used to it and yeah I I don't particularly enjoy well I I used to lift weights an awful lot and stuff like that I do enjoy riding bike but as far as the working out and lifting and things like that uh I I can't say I really enjoyed it all that much but once I got used to it it was habit forming it was I felt so bad if I didn't physically I mean I just my body was was was uh tuned into that that mode and if I if I skipped it then it kind of threw the the whole the whole system out of whack
[speaker001:] right right boy
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] hopefully my my knee is a hundred percent better maybe I can get back into it
[speaker002:] yeah that's for sure
[speaker001:] I have ask you a question off the subject though you're in you're living in the Castle Park area
[speaker002:] okay that's right
[speaker001:] I grew up in Oak Cliff
[speaker002:] did you really
[speaker001:] yes uh just close to Methodist Hospital
[speaker002:] okay yeah
[speaker001:] on Candy C A N D Y
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] oh in fact I lived there oh until nineteen late nineteen fifties
[speaker002:] okay okay
[speaker001:] and that area is it changing back again so many people are moving back into those old houses and are restoring them
[speaker002:] yeah it is um we're on we're on a little street called Bison Trail it's only about a block and a half long but it's it's over on the other end It it's over by the far edge of uh Stephen's Park Golf Course
[speaker001:] oh I know exactly where that is
[speaker002:] yeah it's it's uh you know where the little bridge is on North Oak Cliff Boulevard yeah we are just south of that little bridge back up on the hill in the trees there
[speaker001:] yeah sure
[speaker002:] and yeah um our street is uh an awful lot of retired people but the other half in fact our you know one little block and a half there four houses sold last summer and three sold the summer before and everybody in their late twenties to mid thirties are buying and and starting to rebuild and fix things up again and everybody is real excited
[speaker001:] oh that's that's wonderful that is a gorgeous gorgeous place
[speaker002:] yeah and then oh it's it's a lot of fun the people are great there too our uh we've got a real active neighborhood association and uh we have well we've got four regular parties every year and we do a neighborhood recycling program and you know all that kind of stuff so it's a lot of fun and it is it's a really beautiful area and some some of the people um some of the higher dollars lawyers and stuff downtown too are picking up some of those great big houses and they're they're getting them at a real bargain
[speaker001:] well sure they are
[speaker002:] you know they're they're getting four thousand square feet for a hundred fifty a hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
[speaker001:] good great
[speaker002:] and uh and they're just going to town with them they're people are putting in pools and and completely redoing the outside restoring to the original you know nineteen thirty nineteen forties look
[speaker001:] oh wow
[speaker002:] and uh it it's it 's really coming around I guess
[speaker001:] I need to go over there and just drive around and look
[speaker002:] it's it's worth the trip
[speaker001:] oh I'm sure it must be I'm just we had a lovely little house over there it was like a two story
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] well story and a half really because we had a basement
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] and the guy that built it was weird I mean weird
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] it's one of these really creative houses that I grew up in that nothing was on the same level with anything else
[speaker002:] okay oh wow
[speaker001:] and I just loved the neighborhood and I mean everyone everyone had houses like that They were all completely different
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh that's right
[speaker001:] and so neat
[speaker002:] yeah ours ours is kind of a little ranch style with a great big oh I guess it's twenty eight by fifteen front porch and uh next door we've got an Austin stone
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] across the street the guy just uh it was burnt out about two years ago and and the guy moved in and completely redid it and it's got oh it's got a rounded front on it it's all brick and he's he's landscaped his yard and he's about ready to put in a pool and things like that so yeah there's a variety you just don't see it anywhere else as far as the different styles in the houses and whatnot
[speaker001:] now why couldn't your wife run around the golf course is that not good
[speaker002:] um oh she could a little bit we I tell you what we got into the fitness center at Methodist
[speaker001:] oh was he
[speaker002:] and they have a quarter mile track there so she has started doing that rather than uh rather than take off the problem is she's a school teacher and for her she can't run in the morning For her to get home and try to run at six o'clock in the night in the winter time it's starting to get dark and
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] you know you don't want to she doesn't want to be out by herself anywhere in Dallas regardless whether it's north Dallas or whatnot and when she goes over to this fitness center it's fenced in and there's somebody in the building watching her and all that so there's a lot of consideration
[speaker001:] yes I I really hear that you know I think you know you're in Oak Cliff
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but I'm in Plano In west Plano
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and we live on one of those blocks that it's a neighborhood watch block we all know each other and the street doesn't go anywhere
[speaker002:] uh-huh right
[speaker001:] if you are on the street you better belong there
[speaker002:] that's right
[speaker001:] because it's not a through street
[speaker002:] that's right
[speaker001:] and still I want to get up early in the morning and walk before this knee business and my husband
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] had a lot of heartburn with that
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I mean it looked darker to him because he he was in the house with the lights on
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] when I was out walking it was more of a pre dawn type pretty but huh-uh he didn't think it looked pre dawn to him it looked dark and even he was real concerned about that so
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] it's not just because you are in Oak Cliff it's just because you're smart that you don't do things like that
[speaker002:] that's right that's right it only takes one time that is it's a hard lesson to learn so
[speaker001:] that's right there's only one crazy out there you know to make any difference
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah yeah it's you know it goes all over well we got this