[speaker001:] yeah yes I talked with um I talked with people from Richardson and Plano and uh the first three days and then yesterday I talked with someone with from Pennsylvania so it's the
[speaker002:] yeah because I've only been made this is only my third call I I tried to make calls two different days and I couldn't get through
[speaker001:] oh oh I know sometimes I just I'm in it just takes a very long time so
[speaker002:] does it yeah I've been trying to you know do that and and sometimes I just can't wait that long so I just hang up because it keeps going through the thing over and over again
[speaker001:] yeah I know well this is hilarious oh well tell me what books have you read lately
[speaker002:] but I knew as soon as I heard your voice I thought Kathy's it's Kathy Kenser well well let's see I um gosh I can't even think I haven't read any and you're such a reader I know that and I
[speaker001:] well I don't read all that much for enjoyment I mean I read a lot for school but gee I just don't have much time for enjoyment reading
[speaker002:] yeah the the last book I picked up was a book by Judy Bloom and it was um it was called um Smart Women I think
[speaker001:] uh-huh um
[speaker002:] um or something like that and it was it was kind of I really didn't like it at all it was it was written back in the early eighties and it was all this this um divorced woman syndrome of the
[speaker001:] yeah huh oh yeah oh yeah
[speaker002:] um it was almost like a a pre AIDS scare kind of thing
[speaker001:] interesting
[speaker002:] it was really an interesting because I I right away looked at when it was copyrighted
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] because I could tell by the theme of almost when it was written
[speaker001:] yes yes yeah
[speaker002:] and it was all about women searching for themselves
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and um you know a lot of hanky-panky going on
[speaker001:] yeah yeah that kind of was um kind of a pop psychology time for when when a lot of books like that were coming out I think
[speaker002:] that's right
[speaker001:] and so that makes real sense that that's um when it was written um I haven't wasn't really aware that she had written anything for um adults I was always just more aware of her journal you know for her young people her books uh-huh
[speaker002:] yeah yeah um-hum yeah and she's more famous for that but she has been writing for adults also and so I thought hey I'll just try this you know and see what it was like it was very um the style was very conversational
[speaker001:] I'll be darned yeah uh-huh
[speaker002:] you would have lots of conversations between people rather than any description
[speaker001:] yeah right yeah yeah
[speaker002:] you know how that is and and um
[speaker001:] yeah I wonder if she's written anything really recently if she's got anything printed in print
[speaker002:] yeah she has because I I remember seeing a new book by her that was out and I think it was a it was an adult book
[speaker001:] uh-huh I'll be darned
[speaker002:] so anyway but that's the last thing I I've read and um
[speaker001:] yeah yeah well it's I'm trying to think the last actual book I read that wasn't let's see I think I read oh when I was on vacation um between semester break and summer and you know on semester break between spring and summer
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and I went to my mother's I read a book that I have should have read when I was probably in high school I read um Jane Eyre no wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute Jane Eyre no no no no it wasn't Jane Eyre no it was um
[speaker002:] I Wuthering Heights
[speaker001:] uh Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen that's what it was yes and um you know I I didn't know what to expect except I had heard that that Jane Austen was such a wonderful novelist and
[speaker002:] oh yeah by Jane Austen yes yes
[speaker001:] she really was good I mean I was was very much impressed with the way her plot was put together so intricately and um
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and you know I just but I as I say I was pretty much ashamed that I hadn't read something before then
[speaker002:] yeah because I I think I was I think I read it in college or had to write it read it in high school or college but I don't remember it and then when Jennie had to read it at Gettysburg and I got her the I got her someone I think it was um
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah yeah uh-huh
[speaker002:] oh some actress reading it you know they had an abridged version of it on tape and so I got that for her and she loved doing that but I remember that was the book
[speaker001:] oh how interesting yes oh I'll bet yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and now I I mean I think it's around here somewhere I'm just going to have to put it in the car sometimes and listen to it
[speaker001:] right I wouldn't be surprised yeah sure oh yeah well I read that and then I'm trying to think um usually I try to to find something long that I'm going to do
[speaker002:] but um um-hum
[speaker001:] when if if I have long periods of time like Christmas vacation or you know when I know I'm not going to be doing anything for a while um
[speaker002:] yeah oh that's what I do too
[speaker001:] yeah and that's about it because otherwise I'm reading so much for school I'm um I have just started reading a book actually it's for school but it's for um there's a a literary journal well not a literary journal it's a it's kind of a journal of of the history of ideas that's that's starting to be published um from UTD the first issue doesn't come out until next year but um I'm doing some reviews of books just to
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] what to sort of recommend to whether whether or not a full-scale review should be done for the journal and I've yeah it's really neat because these are brand new books and I just got a I got a this this one
[speaker002:] oh how neat oh great
[speaker001:] um most of the stuff is on uh literary criticism and philosophy and religion and all that this one is on Johann Sebastian Bach and it's a a biography a biography
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum oh great
[speaker001:] that is really interesting I mean it it's fascinating it really is um but it's so long I I don't really have the time to read the whole thing but I think eventually I'll go back to it but it
[speaker002:] oh that's fascinating oh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] it was written I mean the the copyright is nineteen ninety one so it's a brand new book yeah uh-huh yeah and he really this man really shed some light on um
[speaker002:] oh it's a brand new book oh that that would be wonderful to read something like that yeah
[speaker001:] some aspects of of Bach's genius and and and you know the and more sociological things you know like the the idea that um that music to be a musician was as much um of a family occupation as anything I mean you know that was it was families had just loads of musicians yeah that's right
[speaker002:] yes yeah and they just went from generation probably to generation just with these with these all passing it from one to the other
[speaker001:] yes uh-huh and um
[speaker002:] yeah that's the way it was I'm sure back then yeah oh that's interesting
[speaker001:] yeah yeah so um it was just really interesting if that's you know that's kind of what but I have to not only am am I reading reading it to decide whether or not it should be reviewed but also um because the board of advisors for this um journal doesn't have right now doesn't have a really respected name um who's a um a scholar on on music um and I'm supposed to decide whether I think this man might be a worthy person to be a you know in that position on the board so
[speaker002:] um-hum oh yeah
[speaker001:] I don't know if I want to take that responsibility or not but but at least I can tell them what I think so um it's real interesting
[speaker002:] wow that's rough that's real rough yeah well that's a neat thing to be involved in because I think our I think my alma mater um Gettysburg I think they were just starting a magazine
[speaker001:] yeah it is uh-huh
[speaker002:] that was similar to that I think that's probably a sort of a thing to do in small colleges but um
[speaker001:] yeah yeah yes yeah that it you know you see you see a lot of small colleges doing things like that right uh-huh because it attracts really a a lot people's interest that's one way it's really good public relations for small schools I think so
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah oh yes yeah
[speaker001:] but uh another one of my projects this summer is actually it's part of my research assistantship is um it's helping a professor uh compile a bunch of translations of of various poems for a book that he's writing
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] and so I'm learning the names if not the actual contents of a lot of different poems and a lot of French people
[speaker002:] now translations what do you mean translations of of
[speaker001:] um well where where for instance um a Baudelaire poem that was written in the French and then has been translated into English by various people and the translations are all so different from one another um-hum
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum oh I see all different oh that's interesting
[speaker001:] so it's multiple translations of single works and and that's right now right now pretty much what I'm doing as far as um my work is just kind of compiling all that for him so
[speaker002:] gosh that's great
[speaker001:] it's real interesting
[speaker002:] boy you really lift me up to a different I mean here I I'm dealing with uh cleaning the stove and you know I'm I wish I were dealing with Baudelaire that would be nice but I
[speaker001:] oh well let me tell you there are days when I would be prefer really doing that I don't know if I've told you but um this is not on the subject