[speaker001:] gun control seems to be a rather um timely topic with all that's going on legislation wise
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] and uh the the interesting scale that they assigned it uh the one being a banned and ten being no regulations or totally free I'd have to put myself pretty much in the middle I guess I I don't mind regulating all of the the guns and I would certainly call for a ban on certain types now the the wisdom as to which types that's gonna be a debate forever I would assume uh the method of of controlling it well that's all into how much money you wanna put into the the controls um one point that was made in the house hearings or the the representative who stood up and said that uh you know we can check a guy's credit card instantly but uh we don't wanna check his background and of course those are two different issues as far as privacy goes uh but there's still the the technology exists to to check it if they want
[speaker002:] hm right
[speaker001:] so it's it's it's kind of a uh I guess you got to put a dollar figure on it if you really wanna make that kind of an effort and regulate it like that and then you've got the group the people that decide that there's there's no particular reason to have them at all and you got to balance those against the ones that say there is some sport to it and I guess I would fall more in the the realm that I like the sport issue of it but I I could give it up without too much trouble it's not the world's most pleasurable thing and it costs a bit to do it uh finding ranges and things like that um I have shot a variety of guns for a number of years but it's just it's not
[speaker002:] yes right
[speaker001:] like golf or whatever I mean there are other things that you could go do so uh I I don't see the the joy of shooting is is that much of a driving factor I think uh society could easily swing the scales the other direction just for the sake of safety so the number of kids that tend to get hurt I don't even keep the gun in our house so uh we don't have that problem but uh it's it's a hard hard topic I guess for a lot of people have a lot of hard issue a lot of hard feelings about it
[speaker002:] yes right they do and you boy you can get them on either side and just like you say uh well I think I I guess I'd have to place myself uh uh probably seven or eight because or not wait wait onto no control I'm sorry uh excuse me that uh uh two or three
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh I was going the wrong direction um because of we had a neighbor child that was killed by another child
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] because they had a gun in the house and the the father kept the bullets in a separate place but the little boy was five years old and was so intelligent enough to uh he knew where booth both places were loaded the gun and they were playing cowboys and Indians and he shot the other little boy right between the eyes
[speaker001:] boy
[speaker002:] so uh I mean it it destroyed two families uh in just that instant and and I a lot of people say that they need it for protection uh having
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] worked at one time in Baltimore or I don't know if you're in a big city are you Dallas yeah that's a big city um then you know that uh uh
[speaker001:] Dallas um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] if you live anywhere real close that uh the safety is uh some people argue that they need a gun to make sure that they aren't going to get shot because of the incidences of break-ins and you know but uh uh we have never had a gun in the house with my children growing up uh I um uh once uh uh knew a fellow that had had been a policeman and he said that if you pull a gun on a robber he's going to assume that you know how to use it well and he's going to you know try to shoot first uh so you know if he's got one um and if not um
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] then usually they uh if he's got a knife or whatever they could throw it at you I mean you know they he he said that it it's better not to have especially myself now I'm a widow and uh I so I'm
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] uh when my handicapped son is is not at home I'm by myself but uh there's I still won't have a gun in the house because he said it's it's really um playing Russian Roulette if you do uh
[speaker001:] yeah about the only circumstances that they'd be of any value is when you happen to already know that the the person was coming your way if once you're surprised it's too late and and the rare circumstances you know the very few of those burglaries actually occur in such a way that you knew the guy was coming and had time to do anything about it
[speaker002:] that's right that's right right that's right
[speaker001:] and I don't have that problem is I don't use that argument as saying it's worth keeping one and the uh NRA's um claim that the uh the constitutional and the right to bear arms and that whole statement uh it's hard to know the original intent but I I don't see it as that that difficult of a story to believe when the opposition says that uh yeah its the right to to arm a militia and as opposed to just the general public and you have a
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] you have a earn a right not just a privilege as it were if you were gonna serve in the militia then you have a right to have that arm but uh or you know there's all sorts of arguments there but I don't even worry about
[speaker002:] that's right I know
[speaker001:] the what the original intent was they didn't have this problem back then so we we change our rights with our social status they're man given rights and they can be taken away by a man so
[speaker002:] no no that's true that that's that's right that's right right
[speaker001:] uh the people that hide behind that I don't worry about they can go live in another country if they want
[speaker002:] well the yeah that's how I feel too I know well even even here where I work uh we have uh a gun club and of course those people are very avid they you know they say there should be no ban that it's not but I can't see why any uh on on the street citizen should be able allowed to be allowed to have a machine gun
[speaker001:] um-hum right
[speaker002:] uh you know when you were talking about maybe what kind of guns it would be hard to decide but there are a few guns that uh just are not uh sport or I mean I don't know too many people that use a machine gun to go sport hunting either so um uh I I think they should have at least some control over over those things um when and when you were speaking about they can check up
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know on credit cards well I I understand about the privacy act and everything but why can't they check to see if the person who is applying for this gun has had a record or not that to me would not be an unreasonable thing and if they do course
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] the argument with the people in the gun club um is that uh well the people that are going to get guns are the ones who are going to steal them anyway
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and so it's not gonna be that they're buying them course some of them do
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] so it it it is a hard question
[speaker001:] tends to tends to strap only the legitimate people most regulation does most it's very difficult to uh legislate uh
[speaker002:] right oh yeah
[speaker001:] crooks or whatever you wanna however you wanna word it so it's well this may be a never ending topic I got a couple of calls waiting on me so I better let you go
[speaker002:] that's right okay well thanks for talking bye-bye now
[speaker001:] okay bye