[speaker001:] Okay so,
[speaker002:] First how much television watching do you do?
[speaker001:] I do a little bit more than I think usual people do because I am here alone during the day,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and I like it just for the noise [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] That's right, but do you actually watch it,
[speaker001:] Um.
[speaker002:] pay attention to it or is it more of a company?
[speaker001:] Um, it just depends on what it is.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I mean, I have my favorite things that I do,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, okay.
[speaker001:] and then some fun thing to do sometime.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] Um, what about you?
[speaker002:] Well, actually, I work full time and when I am not working I am running and I do not watch a lot of television and I am very selective in what I watch.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] If there's something that I absolutely want to watch I will turn it on and watch it and then turn it off. I probably watch television four hours a week, max.
[speaker001:] Well see that's great, yeah.
[speaker002:] And, and, uh,
[speaker001:] Well,
[speaker002:] if, if I do not find something that I really want or really want to watch, well, then I just do not turn it on. I would rather listen to music.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Part of it is that, uh, I think we need to be very selective about the kinds of things that come to us on a subliminal basis and I think that if we are doing other things and these programs come in, sometimes they influence us and we do not know where that influence came from.
[speaker001:] Well, I think that, well, part, I think that's partially true, too.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I think you have to have the will and the, and, uh, anyway, I think it,
[speaker002:] Uh, right, right, right.
[speaker001:] you are, you would be susceptible to stuff.
[speaker002:] Of course, I, uh,
[speaker001:] And it has to be reinforced at another level too. But,
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] anyway, what would you watch, if you had, you know, this week to watch?
[speaker002:] I, uh,
[speaker001:] Do you like specials?
[speaker002:] Well, last night, for example, I really would have liked to have watched UNSOLVED MYSTERIES. Those are fascinating to me.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] If I have the opportunity, I watch it. Unfortunately, I was with someone else who was flipping channels.
[speaker001:] Oh [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I hate that. [LAUGHTER] I do not care a whole lot for some of the contemporary humor.
[speaker001:] Oh, right, yeah.
[speaker002:] In our comedy programs, although, [inhaling] nobody can appreciate comedy any more than I can, but I would prefer to find, [inhaling] a good comedian on one of the educational channels or one of the older comedians.
[speaker001:] Well, we have cable also,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and sometimes you can, um, get the H B O specials,
[speaker002:] That's right,
[speaker001:] and sometimes those are really,
[speaker002:] and some of those are fine programs.
[speaker001:] pretty hysterical.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] So, I, I like to watch comedy, I mean,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and that's something. But,
[speaker002:] I, I enjoy comedy.
[speaker001:] I am not,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] real up to date on what's going on now,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I, I guess I have my old favorites, but I am,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] hooked on, you know like Bob Newhart is still on.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I watch him.
[speaker002:] I enjoy that, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, uh, you know, something on that level,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I, I also enjoy, uh, I do not know, Sunday mornings, it's Channel Thirteen, I watch a lot,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] of Thirteen, uh, THE MCLAUGHLIN GROUP, and I,
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] I just laugh, I mean, I think that's so hysterical,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] these guys. It's just so much fun. It's just, it's just a lot of fun,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] watching that. I mean, I do not agree with a whole lot of the stuff the, they say, [LAUGHTER] but it's fun.
[speaker002:] Right. Right.
[speaker001:] You know, so, yeah,
[speaker002:] Well [sigh],
[speaker001:] I like to be entertained, I really do [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah. I watch it for entertainment, but I also watch it for, uh, cultural impact. I do a lot of channel thirteen, channel three, some of the educational channels, and I watch for special programs that have special, a special play, a special concert, uh, I recently watched a tribute to three of the finest opera stars.
[speaker001:] Oh, now that was fabulous,
[speaker002:] Uh, and it was fabulous.
[speaker001:] and that, you know,
[speaker002:] I was just absolutely,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] you just held you breath,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] in some of those. and, uh,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] oh, I was just, it makes chills all,
[speaker001:] I know.
[speaker002:] over you. So,
[speaker001:] So,
[speaker002:] I, I may or may not even look at the T V guide, but if I have time I may flip through and say hey this looks good if I finish this task I can watch that in an hour. [inhaling] Uh, if the hour comes and I do not get a chance to watch it, so what.
[speaker001:] You know, well, there's certain thin-, I mean,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I have got, um, my T V in the kitchen here and,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] uh, you know, if there's something like cooking shows. I love to watch cooking shows. I, I really do.
[speaker002:] [Noise] [swallowing] [sounds like she is drinking something] I do too, it makes me want to cook,
[speaker001:] I know [LAUGHTER],
[speaker002:] and then I eat,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] and then I get fat, so, I just let other people watch [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] I, I, yeah.
[speaker002:] then I eat what they cook [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] And, and there's some, um, in fact, one of the water color shows, I know, has inspired me to take water color lessons, you know.
[speaker002:] Oh, I think that's,
[speaker001:] So,
[speaker002:] marvelous.
[speaker001:] you know,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] things like that, you get,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah, I took a lot of my,
[speaker001:] a whole lot of exposure.
[speaker002:] college courses, I took some of my, college courses on television,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] so that, it's very successful for some of,
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] those things, but I think [inhaling] I really got stung very badly about having influence in your life, or at least I saw a very bad example of having television influence your life, uh, [sigh] my husband had an aunt who was addicted to soaps,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and, I want you to know that became the most suspicious, cantankerous, contrary old [LAUGHTER] woman [LAUGHTER] ever walked.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] She got you a [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Absolutely,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I do not know who she thought she was, but she just got to the point where you could might near, you could almost hear those soaps being echoed in her voice,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] and that attitude being demonstrated. [inhaling] And for her to miss a soap, it was a big withdrawal.
[speaker001:] Oh, well, see that's,
[speaker002:] And,
[speaker001:] But she was probably depressed to begin with.
[speaker002:] Well, I do not know.
[speaker001:] You know what I mean?
[speaker002:] Well, she was grumpy to begin with.
[speaker001:] Yeah, grumpy to begin with. [LAUGHTER] Yeah.
[speaker002:] There's no doubt about that, but, uh, but you could clearly see those influences,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and in my youngsters, I know that one day, uh, my youngsters were watching THE THREE STOOGES, and I always thought that was just casual slap stick,
[speaker001:] I hate that show [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] comedy, but when one tries to lift the other one up with a pipe wrench, I decided that was not funny,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] any more.
[speaker001:] I, I,
[speaker002:] And, I really,
[speaker001:] Good.
[speaker002:] I really feel very strong about the BART SIMPSON SHOW. I think that is, the kids watch that and that's absolutely the mouthiest kid I ever saw.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] And I just, I do not like it.
[speaker001:] Is not that amazing. How old are your kids?
[speaker002:] [Clinking] [swallowing] [sounds like ice against a glass, then drinking something] Mine are grown, but I have grandchildren.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay, so that's,
[speaker002:] And, young children around,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] and, uh, for a four year old to think Bart Simpson is a hero is tragic [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I had forgotten about that, see, it's just my husband and I {C and,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] so } I do not have that, you know, I, that constant influence,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] of the kids shows and all that,
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] but, uh, um, I don't know.
[speaker002:] Well, I was very careful even when my kids were,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] kids were at home. And when they were young I was, really did, uh, watch what they watched. I was cau-, I sat down with them and I watched it, and if I did not like it, I changed the channel for them. You know,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Right.
[speaker002:] I, you know, I distracted them, changed their interest.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Because I just could not tolerate that kind of influence on the kiddos. I just wou-,
[speaker001:] And, and you know we get it at school, too, anyway, so you might as well not,
[speaker002:] Sure.
[speaker001:] reinforce it [LAUGHTER],
[speaker002:] That's right, that's right.
[speaker001:] you know.
[speaker002:] Gosh, they got, they are mouthy enough anyway.
[speaker001:] I know, I remember going to sch-, my parents were a lot like, too and of course,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] we did not have any of the variety, you know, kids have,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] but, all the watch RAWHIDE and all those shows.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, my parents never let me watch anything like that. I could watch YOGI BEAR, you know,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] what kind of culture was that [LAUGHTER]?
[speaker002:] Yeah well,
[speaker001:] And, I remember going to school the next day and everybody would be asking, oh, did you see that,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh [NOISE].
[speaker001:] did you see how he did that and did you see, and I could never participate.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And it always made me feel a little bit, you know, a loner like I, you know,
[speaker002:] [Noise] Sure, I can,
[speaker001:] But, uh,
[speaker002:] understand how that would happen.
[speaker001:] But see, then my parents, I think then you have to replace it with other things.
[speaker002:] Absolutely, well, I did,
[speaker001:] You know, to, uh,
[speaker002:] I ran my kids to death [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I said, hey, I think that's enough television for awhile,
[speaker001:] Really.
[speaker002:] maybe we need to go outside,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] and we need to go out and play and enjoy some company. So I would go out with them, now see there's the problem, parents do not do that. They,
[speaker001:] That's true.
[speaker002:] say, you go outside and play,
[speaker001:] Or, you go rent a video up at,
[speaker002:] Yeah. I said, but,
[speaker001:] the store and come home and sit down and watch it.
[speaker002:] but, we went on field trips and we did other things. And I think that was,
[speaker001:] Well that's, you know, that's something people do not do, well, here we are talking on that subject, but that's, that's an interesting concept I have got to stick in my, uh,
[speaker002:] Of course,
[speaker001:] You know work with kids but, uh,.