[speaker002:] well I um I haven't really lived in a lot of big cities I mean I'm living in Dallas now Plano is outside of Dallas but um so I don't really have a lot of experience with air pollution
[speaker001:] huh-uh
[speaker002:] but I know when I lived down in Houston on the outskirts of Houston there were some towns like Pasadena that had oil refineries
[speaker001:] huh-uh
[speaker002:] and um if you would drive by there like on your way to the beach or something
[speaker001:] huh-uh
[speaker002:] there would just be dumping this huge amounts of smoke into the air and it always smelled really bad we know that that was
[speaker001:] huh-uh
[speaker002:] really really really bad for the atmosphere what have you got up there
[speaker001:] well I I live out in the country so that part is good uh we're maybe one hundred miles from Pittsburgh which has a lot of pollution from their plants
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and right now in our area were fighting against a toxic waste incinerator
[speaker002:] oh no
[speaker001:] and uh it won't be too far from where we live and everybody really has been you know fighting against it because we just we do not want it well we don't want one any place
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] we would like the uh industry to do more to take care of the uh waste products before they turn to incineration because we feel that uh the small percentage that they're going to be putting into the air is too much you know the uh
[speaker002:] yeah and it's just I mean it's just so bad that there is just so much going into the air and and the little bit you say that there putting in here and there and everywhere it all adds up
[speaker001:] huh-uh huh-uh
[speaker002:] and plus all the problems in uh the Middle East with all that smoke and
[speaker001:] oh that has to be terrible over there
[speaker002:] yeah so it's just um why are we doing this to ourselves I just don't know but um I you know what really amazes me about like that Pasadena area and the oil refineries
[speaker001:] huh-uh huh-uh
[speaker002:] is that there would be houses and people living just really close to it I mean between the freeway and the oil refinery you would see a neighborhood and
[speaker001:] yeah huh-uh
[speaker002:] you just thought well it's obvious that there's a lot going up in the air there and what comes up must come down
[speaker001:] yeah yeah breathing it we're breathing it all the time
[speaker002:] and we yes and and how if they have all of those um toxicity I mean it there's signs around saying how dangerous it is and then here you are living close to next to it just doesn't make too much sense
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum no and I figure we're paying to take care of this toxic waste no matter who does it So
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] and they have shown some of the industries have been real good at uh uh doing their part in uh reducing the amount that they have
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] uh they've reused some of it uh it can be recycled a lot of their things
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] and that they've shown that it uh to begin with apparently it does cost more
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but once they get started it's really it saves them money in the end and it cuts down on the end product that has to be dealt with some other way
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and if they would all that's what that's what we want done is we want industry to take you know more responsibility in taking care of it
[speaker002:] well um individual companies and things are so selfish and their desires to save a few dollars and and that they don't care about the environmental impact that they make
[speaker001:] huh-uh huh-uh they're greedy it's money is what is it's it's the money
[speaker002:] uh-huh yes
[speaker001:] they're making fantastic amounts on these things and uh even the incinerator the money and the income that they're going to make off this is you know just astronomical
[speaker002:] um-hum well have you ever visited um like Los Angeles or any place that's ever it's kind of known that it has uh pollution in it's air
[speaker001:] we've never been we went as far as as uh like Las Vegas and Yellow Stone Park we did go we should have gone the whole way over but we didn't
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh
[speaker001:] but I understand that we have an aunt that lives out there and when she was visiting here she would look up at the stars and she said how wonderful it was to be able to look into the sky and see some of the things that she saw
[speaker002:] well it's uh-huh um-hum
[speaker001:] she said they couldn't see those things out there
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] because of the smog and everything
[speaker002:] that's so awful well what about in New York I guess you've gone that way maybe
[speaker001:] no never been in New York I don't want to go there
[speaker002:] yeah pretty funny
[speaker001:] have you been there
[speaker002:] well I've been to New York I have um relatives that direction I have it's um where are you close is it close to Phoenixville Pennsylvania
[speaker001:] oh um no I never heard of that one
[speaker002:] because I have family there and
[speaker001:] we're near Pittsburgh Clarion University
[speaker002:] oh huh-uh it's pretty neat
[speaker001:] it's it's kind of northwest part of Pennsylvania
[speaker002:] that's beautiful country up that way I know it's um very lush and pretty up in the back in the east it's really
[speaker001:] huh-uh you sound very young are you a young person
[speaker002:] well I'm thirty one
[speaker001:] thirty one you're young
[speaker002:] seems kind of old to me
[speaker001:] no you're young you have a lot of life yet and these we have some people who say well this isn't going to affect me this air pollution
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] uh older people or they think they're far enough away from something
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] that it's and they don't realize these things are going to affect everybody and if you're older it's not going to affect you that way you have grandchildren you have children uh nieces nephews whatever friends
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] uh everybody is going to be affected by it
[speaker002:] that's really true and we all you know need to be willing to help pay a little bit like I've heard some people uh grumble about their uh cars passing their emission tests and things and
[speaker001:] huh-uh
[speaker002:] how they've had to how it's more expensive and things and I thought well it's so much better
[speaker001:] huh-uh they say it has really made a difference though
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] now see we don't have that here yet
[speaker002:] oh you don't
[speaker001:] no we don't have that testing in that down here yet
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] but they I have read that that that it has really helped where the problem is greater where the population is greater
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and that it has made a difference
[speaker002:] well I really think it must I think every I mean well think about how many automobiles there are
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and each is putting out like we have a car an older one of our cars is an older car and every time you start it from the tail pipe it makes a black spot on the cement
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and you know that that is a sign
[speaker001:] something's coming out yeah
[speaker002:] yeah and that's all cars are doing that and it's really polluting the air
[speaker001:] yeah yeah if you have to put a price on it which is more valuable life or paying a little more
[speaker002:] huh-uh and it's also it's causing of lot of the real terrible suffering like cancer and things
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] we sure wouldn't want
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] so much more people suffering from that
[speaker001:] yeah and like I said I think you have to pay for it no matter what you do you with it because it's industry we're paying industry to make the products and we're helping pay for there making these end products that are toxic waste then we have to pay for them to pay somebody to carry it away someplace
[speaker002:] huh-uh huh-uh
[speaker001:] then they put it in the dump some place and they find out well this dump doesn't work so we have to clean this up and move it someplace else We end up paying for it again now we're going to end up paying for it again by having it burned in these large incinerators and we're paying to have our air polluted and our water streams polluted
[speaker002:] huh-uh pretty sad
[speaker001:] or the where they want to put the one area they want to put the incinerator is right in the middle of the Clarion the two water sheds that feed Clarion river
[speaker002:] oh no
[speaker001:] and you know it just boggles our mind that they can consider even putting it there because
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] if that water gets contaminated it will go on down to Pittsburgh it will you know it affects so many people
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and it's just hard to think that they could allow them to do things like this
[speaker002:] no no it's scary it's scary
[speaker001:] huh-uh it really is
[speaker002:] it's really awful well I've really enjoyed the conversation it's helped me to think more about some issues that I need to be thinking more about
[speaker001:] it is really a concern
[speaker002:] huh-uh
[speaker001:] its a
[speaker002:] and it's instead of waiting until it directly affects me like you say it's important to be involved ahead of time well you have a good day
[speaker001:] huh-uh um-hum well you too
[speaker002:] thank you
[speaker001:] huh-uh bye
[speaker002:] bye-bye