[speaker001:] oh well
[speaker002:] anyway I uh
[speaker001:] I uh oh I I did forget to ask you what is your name by the way
[speaker002:] um I'm Ann
[speaker001:] oh you're Ann hi but um anyway I uh lot of lot of stuff interesting procedural things I think we could we could change if we're going to talking about the subject tonight tonight which is some I guess criminal courts the
[speaker002:] criminal courts yes
[speaker001:] yeah the the one of which was uh something something that's been going on because of the Rodney King trial here in town and that is uh and that is the exclusion of jurors because of or in spite of their race uh yeah yeah well the the uh the the people that
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] the the the uh the jury that's trying uh the officers in that case is is an all white panel and there's been a lot made in the local papers of that fact
[speaker002:] right how is it I can't I'm a little surprised they didn't get a change of venue on that one
[speaker001:] they have they have they moved it up to the county north of here
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] um it's in Ventura and there's there's still quite a bit of publicity obviously and it's kind of it's kind of debatable whether you could get a fair trial almost anywhere because that uh that
[speaker002:] well that videotape was just horrible
[speaker001:] yeah it was everywhere
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so you know and I I think it would be very difficult to find someone uh find a panel that would be not have seen it and and known of what was going on
[speaker002:] oh I agree with you but I can't imagine that they would do an all white jury without having some sort of of discrimination or or you know uh appeal on not having a jury of his peers and all of that kind of stuff
[speaker001:] exactly you know um the you know I I'm kind of torn on this issue it's like they're saying well on the one hand they're not he's not getting a jury of his peers which is in some ways I think true but on the other hand is it's also saying that white jurors are not going to are not going to convict
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] uh you know they're not going to do their job which is the whole the whole point of being on a jury is to convict or or or uh let go based on whether or not the person whether or not the evidence says that there's enough
[speaker002:] exactly based on fact right how interesting ooh so what's the prevailing thought within the community
[speaker001:] I um
[speaker002:] I mean you know what the news media's gonna make of it but what about the community
[speaker001:] they well I guess it depends on who you talk to I haven't talked to uh I haven't talked to a whole lot of black people on it but I I rather imagine there's there's some snickering about it and a lot of the usually fatalistic oh here we go again folks kind of stuff
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh my goodness that can't be good for Los Angeles either
[speaker001:] no no I you know on on on one hand you on the one hand you almost hope that they convict them because it's they they have that very strong piece of physical evidence showing these people beating the heck out of this guy
[speaker002:] oh exactly
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] unfortunately that kind of thing is not limited to uh a big city like Los Angeles you're going to have it just about anywhere
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] there but that's that's interesting
[speaker001:] well yeah um
[speaker002:] what about the judge who's hearing the case is he gonna be impartial is he going to be a good a good adjudicator
[speaker001:] I don't know you know and and again there's something else that you know there was a uh it something else along those lines there was a girl out here named Latausha Harlins I don't know if this this got this got as much notoriety but it's rather almost as infamous here as it was as it was with uh the Rodney King problem um girl walked into a Korean owned store and uh they she had a dispute black girl
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] she she had some kind of a dispute over some orange juice with the with the owner of the store the owner of the store popped her
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] yeah and and well of course the you know the criminal case went up and and the judge gave the woman who shot her shot the girl a uh uh practically a suspended sentence I mean it was
[speaker002:] oh my goodness
[speaker001:] it was just she gave her no time in jail and and you know all of these things and then oh there's uh we have these we have people wandering around to with petitions trying to get the judge
[speaker002:] to get that judge recalled I would think
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] hm that's almost when you kind of wish that there where standardized standardized sentences
[speaker001:] yeah it would make it would make life easier yeah but
[speaker002:] it would uh you would know the whole world would know what you were facing
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and then it's a matter of of deciding guilt