[speaker001:] all right I play volleyball and softball and ceramics
[speaker002:] ceramics sounds interesting uh I do computer programming kind of as a hobby on the side and I also like to uh do gardening and also like to workout
[speaker001:] I didn't think of working out as a hobby
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] or playing with the computer I do both at home
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well I I uh I work with computers at work and then I come home and do and I have uh a little lap top at home that I just like to play with
[speaker001:] uh we've gotten a little Atari computer uh husband describes it as a a computer with training wheels
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] well pottery sounds interesting have you made a lot of uh a lot of vases and things or
[speaker001:] no I I do ceramics I I you know the pieces are made from a mold and I paint them
[speaker002:] what kind of oh
[speaker001:] uh you know you get them you clean them up you know get the uh mold line off
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know you scrape that off and uh make it as smooth as possible uh then you uh put it in a kiln and fire it you know it's like a big ogen oven
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh when you pull it out it's called bisque uh it started it off with greenware when you first start off and then it goes to bisque and that's when you can paint it
[speaker002:] huh do you have your own kiln or do you do you
[speaker001:] no I've uh you you can rent people's kiln they they uh you take your pieces to their house or their ceramic shop and uh pay them there's one woman that charge ten dollars a month for fire all that I wanted
[speaker002:] oh oh well that that doesn't sound like it's too expensive a hobby does uh does the uh clay and and the paints and things are they expensive
[speaker001:] the paints and stuff can get expensive the greenware it depends on what you buy now I bought a a chess set for my husband and painted it for him and I'd say the greenware for you know twenty four pieces I think is what they're no no thirty two pieces is a was cost cost me about eight dollars
[speaker002:] um-hum well that doesn't sound very expensive to me
[speaker001:] no I liked it I had fun with it but uh you know uh I'm a little shaky when it comes to detail work so I couldn't get the fine pieces so you know I had to
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] get parts that had big spaces in them
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh couldn't do the fine detailed fine detail on it
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] but uh you know I made my son his uh Donald Duck and you know the Disney characters painted them for him in real bright colors
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh he enjoyed them till he was about two and then he uh had fun throwing them and broke them
[speaker002:] hm oh no well
[speaker001:] and that was during one of my softball games and my husband had him and he just kept giving them to him and letting him breaking them
[speaker002:] well children will tend to do that
[speaker001:] yeah well I didn't get mad at the kid I got mad at my husband for giving them to him
[speaker002:] oh well I I I enjoy working out when I I get home from work just to just to have something to do that that I know isn't going to that's that's good for me something to do other than
[speaker001:] I workout with that uh ESPN
[speaker002:] excuse me
[speaker001:] the people on ESPN
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I workout with them or try to
[speaker002:] occasionally I'll record one of the shows that's on in the morning while I'm at work and I'll do them when I get home
[speaker001:] yeah well I don't work
[speaker002:] hm yeah well I I really
[speaker001:] so I do it in the mornings
[speaker002:] I enjoy doing that
[speaker001:] I haven't worked out in quite awhile I play volleyball I guess that's good enough workout
[speaker002:] that is that can be a a workout uh big workout do you play volleyball a lot
[speaker001:] yeah it's fun at once a week uh sometimes sometimes we play two night games a night you know consist of uh fifteen point game and you play two games and you know the best uh person that wins two games wins
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] and uh few times we've had a tie breaker so I played three games and uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] then we'll get a half hour break or so and then I'll go and play another set with somebody else you know
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] it's fun
[speaker002:] hm yeah I I enjoy volleyball I'm just not very good at it and I end up just killing my knees
[speaker001:] yeah well uh I've torn mine up uh you know uh we play with a church team so we're not competitive we're just having fun
[speaker002:] huh  uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh when I played softball it was with the church team it was just for fun although the church team we made it to the nationals we were ranked fifteenth in the nation so I you know I'm proud of that
[speaker002:] wow yeah
[speaker001:] but that was a for another you know I was in another state then
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] so I'm not with the same softball team but they're starting up soon so I'll be playing again
[speaker002:] yeah I have several friends that play softball they play softball in different church leagues
[speaker001:] it's
[speaker002:] around town
[speaker001:] it's a good way to get out with people and you don't have to uh uh let's see what's the word they have fun without doing the drinking and all that
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and uh you know you don't hear a lot of angry words I'll you know be nice and uh you know it's going out to have fun
[speaker002:] uh-huh  yeah
[speaker001:] because it you know it's a it's a hobby you do not want to be stressed out after playing
[speaker002:] no kidding hobbies are supposed to be enjoyable they're not supposed to be difficult or or they're not supposed to make you less relaxed than when you began
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah well uh get back to compooter computer programming of yours uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I've been uh trying to program some uh disk or some uh what do you call them putting some programs into the on the disk and uh I'll get to about fifteen sixteen lines and I'd mess up and it just says you have entered a error in line and I don't see how people do that that drives me batty
[speaker002:] uh-huh  well I I have a a Computer Information Systems degree from school and I've been at it awhile so you know you just kind of learn the tricks of the trade and
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and move on
[speaker001:] the closest I come to uh having a uh program work on me was the the Atari toot toot and you know that was just a couple lines and you push a button and you hear a train and then the the the toot toot
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] the kids like it though they think it's a hilarious
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well I need to run I enjoyed talking to you
[speaker001:] uh all right thank you bye-bye
[speaker002:] sure bye-bye