[speaker001:] oh do you have a do you have a personal computer
[speaker002:] yes I do I've had one ever since uh like oh nineteen seventy four I had several since then uh I built my first one from a kit
[speaker001:] oh A two or one of those L two
[speaker002:] uh it was an a S 100 bus uh model
[speaker001:] oh okay
[speaker002:] uh yeah I don't know if you remember the old uh MIPS computers
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] uh well
[speaker001:] is out of San Antonio originally wasn't it
[speaker002:] uh San were they out of San Antonio I thought they were I thought they were out of uh uh New Mexico
[speaker001:] I really it it
[speaker002:] anyway
[speaker001:] I may be confused on that but I remember seeing the ads in Popular Science uh I bought my first one in nineteen eighty
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] uh what kind do you have now
[speaker002:] uh now I have uh just a regular PC clone
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] it's the 8088 uh it's an old one I've had it for oh I guess five years now
[speaker001:] well uh
[speaker002:] kind do you what kind do you have
[speaker001:] well actually I'm between PC's right now I put my I I had an old one and I kind of got put it up on the shelf and I bought one for uh for the family use and I've given that one to my son it's a two eighty six a two eighty six clone uh an AT clone and I've given that to him and he has it up in his room which means I can still use it but uh
[speaker002:] that's right um-hum
[speaker001:] it's not readily available so I usually end up bringing home a we have a little portable in the office and when I need to do something I usually bring that one home
[speaker002:] um-hum is that the laptop type or the yeah those are real convenient
[speaker001:] a laptop yes they uh they're real convenient but sometimes they're kind of heavy to carry around because you get  you know you get kind of tired if you have to walk a whole lot and I guess it's uh it's all what we get used to it's certainly better than to have a whole machine to take apart my first machine was um a Tandy model one or an old Radio Shack model one and
[speaker002:] um-hum yes
[speaker001:] that was like moving to take that apart
[speaker002:] yes sir it's still lighter bust box
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] uh yeah uh I I sold model one uh model threes I guess for a while in my store
[speaker001:] oh did you
[speaker002:] yes I had a personal computer computer store for a while
[speaker001:] oh you did
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] well that at the time that was a good business I think now it's pretty cut throat isn't it
[speaker002:] it's extremely cut throat now yeah I was uh you know it was sort of uh just before the uh IBM PC came out
[speaker001:] ah well I know uh my model one I put a lots of you know lots of hours on it but it was obsolete fairly quickly it became nothing but a word processor for me so I could do uh you know do letters and things like that at home and uh you know I had let's see I think I had about twenty seven hundred dollars in that little system because I had uh several the floppy drives and all of that
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and you know twenty seven hundred dollars today will buy you a pretty well equipped four eighty six
[speaker002:] uh that's about right yes you can get a a real screamer for twenty seven hundred now it's amazing
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] it's you look at the computer power that the you know the personal computers put on our desk compare it you know with the you know I guess the the first computer I used with a a 7094 or something like that and uh I mean you this is the you know you have more sitting in your desk than the whole building then
[speaker001:] yes um my little model one is a thirty two K and I made the great advancement of of uh kicking it up to forty eight K memory and uh you know that was just a big deal in those days
[speaker002:] my first computer came uh I had a four K memory board with with yeah it's four K
[speaker001:] four K oh did you ever wonder what you'd do all with all the four K
[speaker002:] well at that time I was programming an assembly language right uh and and I had a cassette tape for my memory
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] for my storage I didn't have a floppy and uh it was uh you know you you there was you there was still a press to have more memory I mean grew went from four to sixteen and it made a big jump to thirty two and you know
[speaker001:] yes I uh I think I paid what did I pay I paid a a pretty good chunk of money something like thirty or forty dollars just to buy the chips to upgrade mine of course they it already had sockets on the boards because they had already uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know they they had the board set up with the sockets in it so it it wasn't that bad but
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] you know now uh machine I bring home has two megabytes two megabytes of RAM and