[speaker001:] Well, how about you. Do you use P C -s?
[speaker002:] Oh constantly.
[speaker001:] Yeah. You and me both.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] It seems everything I do is computer related.
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] And if it goes down, then we're stuck all day.
[speaker001:] Yeah. And so I like the I B M P C, personally.
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] But that's pretty much everything I've worked with and, uh, I've become so accustomed to it that, uh, it's second nature.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] What do you use?
[speaker002:] Well, I have an, I, I B M P S two, model thirty.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] It's kind of, kind of getting too slow for me, but my job, I'm an E D P auditor, so I audit, uh, computer applications both on the personal computer and the mainframe level.
[speaker001:] Oh, huh-uh.
[speaker002:] And I use my personal computer constantly, not only do I do P C type things like, uh, using lotus or word processors,
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] I also use my P C to emulate a mainframe terminal for our I B M mainframe
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] and also to emulate a deck terminal for our deck machine.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay.
[speaker002:] So all I have on my desk is my P C, but I'm, I'm getting, not only our local area network, but I'm getting two separate mainframe machines, also.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay. So we, um, we use, it's an I B M P S two also.
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] And, um, you know, every now and then the file gets so big, that, you know, it moves slower than I'd like
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] but I, uh, I do mainly graphic work on it.
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] And, uh, a little bit of word processing and then lotus applications to it.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And, uh, I don't know, I just, I enjoy working with them.
[speaker002:] Yeah [Voice faded].
[speaker001:] There's so many capabilities out there, I mean, the things you can do are endless.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I've become kind of the P C guru in our audit department because it's mostly financial auditors with an accounting back ground,
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] And there's three of us E D P auditors and one of the three of us has an accounting background and so she's not real proficient in P C's and the other just has,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] not used P C's that much, so I ended up taking on the load of making sure everybody knows what they're doing and I'm the administrator for our local area network. And I need to keep that going {C and,
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] So, } I, I'm, I couldn't live my life without a P C. I don't have one at home,
[speaker001:] We have one at home, but I just don't find the time that I can use it.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Right now I would rather not have one at home, because I would work at home.
[speaker001:] Yes.
[speaker002:] Um, we've got a couple of portable lap top P C's at the office that I end up bringing one of them home a lot,
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] to do work. If I had a machine already installed at home I would probably work just about every night [LAUGHTER]. [There are many breaks in the tape.]
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] One of the reasons why I got mine, was before I went on maternity leave, they didn't know how they were going to do without me at work because, I am pretty much the, like you said, the guru,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] in the office with the different programs and any trouble shooting that there is,
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] and, um, so they didn't know how it was going to work, they knew they were going to have to get a modem so that we could, in the decks machine so that we could, in my home, so that we could make it through this eight weeks or so.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But, uh, you know, it's, uh, it's almost like we could become too dependent on them.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And oh, I, we use a lot of free lance.
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] And, uh, that's, uh, pretty much takes up a lot of our day so for as producing transparencies and things.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And, um, it, uh, compared to the way the things have upgraded,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] Have, uh, really, what's the word I'm looking for, I'm just totally drawing a blank [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] But, uh, the way things have changed over the years with the P C and the different programs is just great. It's remarkable the things we can do now, and compared to, you know, a few years.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Just the power, I'm, I'm trying to, uh, get an updated machine. Mine, uh, is just putting along [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] And it's not fast enough for a new four eighty six chip, but, uh,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I don't know [LAUGHTER] if my boss will spring for it.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] But I'm determined to brake mine so he has to get me another one.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] We think about that a lot.
[speaker001:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Well, that's what I do. We had a printer, a Hewlett Packard Ready Writer.
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] And we had about ten people sharing this printer by, it was attached to like a central P C and you had to take your diskette to the P C to print something.
[speaker001:] Um, now that's awful.
[speaker002:] So the first thing [voice has faded] when I started working at this bank, is, I said, well, now first of all we need to all be able to share this P C without getting up. So I talked my boss into investing in a, it's not a, uh, a uh, real elaborate local area network,
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] but we can share the printer and we can, uh, send files to each other,
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] And we can mail, send mail messages to each other,
[speaker001:] Oh, okay.
[speaker002:] which is good enough, it's what we need.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] And then I talked them into buying a H P Laser Jet.
[speaker001:] Oh, yes.
[speaker002:] And that was a major ordeal to get him to buy it. But once he bought it, he has been so pleased. It's, it's fast, it's quite, oh, it has good copy.
[speaker001:] Right. The copy that you can with one of those as compared to one of those dot matrix printers.
[speaker002:] Yeah. I've got a little, little, uh, I B M Pro Printer on my desk,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] but, and I can use either the Pro Printer or I've got my P C configured to where I can use either printer. The one that's on the network or my own.
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] So if I just need something real quick, and I don't feel like getting up and going and getting what I printed, I can just print it in my office.
[speaker001:] Um, we're just trying to talk ours into getting a laser printer.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And, uh, it's just so, the budget restraints and things like that, it's, makes it difficult and, uh,
[speaker002:] They have gotten really cheap. Hewlett Packard makes, it's actually a dot matrix printer
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] but the quality is almost laser quality.
[speaker001:] Oh, huh-uh.
[speaker002:] And I think it's called the desk jet and they're, you understand, I think they're about five hundred dollars now.
[speaker001:] And we, uh, got a quote on some laser printers the other day at six hundred dollars.
[speaker002:] Oh, really.
[speaker001:] Yeah, I don't remember what kind they were, but, uh, we do a lot of transparencies.
[speaker002:] Huh-uh.
[speaker001:] Sometimes the color would take too long to plot out.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] So they just want black and white, which see we can just run them through the laser printer real quick.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Because it will only take a minute to print one of those out and then run a thermal copy of it.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But, uh, it, uh,
[speaker002:] So that's all you need for like charts and stuff. You don't need them in four colors.
[speaker001:] No, huh-uh. If it was a customer presentation then that would be different.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] We would want to razzle-dazzle a bit. But, uh, it's, uh, yeah. We have one in the office and if we want, well in our area, if we want to use it, we have to, you know, like you said, you had to change it, put it on a disc,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] And carry it over to there, and see if they're not using the printer,
[speaker002:] You use the sneak-, system.
[speaker001:] Right [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And, uh, wait for an opportunity to use it.
[speaker002:] Yeah, we you'd have to just sit and wait while someone else was using the printer.
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] Until they got off the machine.
[speaker001:] I know, I know, I understand.
[speaker002:] That was, I was amazed when I came to work, I worked at the, uh, well, it used to be the largest bank in San Antonio until N C N B came up and bought the rival and now N C N B.
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] And now N C N B's got a little larger market share, but it's the only, uh, well, it's part of the bank holding company and that bank holding company of the ten largest banking holding companies in Texas. It's the only one that's still alive.
[speaker001:] Oh, huh-uh.
[speaker002:] Any way, I work in a big prestigious place.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] And I couldn't believe when I walked in the door on my first day and here's the audit department of this, this huge holding company, sharing a H P Rugged Writer [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I was going oh, wait a minute [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Come on guys, this is crummy.
[speaker001:] So how are you supposed to expect to stay number one when you're behind the times in technology.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah. We're pushing real hard though. We're, we're trying, well, see, the entire bank is not like that. We, the, the bank philosophy is one of innovation and,
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] Lead the market. It's just the audit department happened to be just a little behind the times because the, uh, the senior vice president, over audits, is cheap.
[speaker001:] Huh-uh.
[speaker002:] And it's real hard to pry money out of him to, to do these things, but I was, I was able to convince him that it would be cost effective and that our board presentations would be much better and,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Um.
[speaker001:] We find it hard to believe sometimes, or hard to understand when, uh, we work for a computer company, and, uh, how are we supposed to present the imagine that we're supposed to present with equipment that's outdated,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] That's obsolete and the guys that, some of the guys that run this place are very tight and it's like, Well, why do we need this, can't you do that with, you know, what we have, and when we try and then they complain about, this doesn't look good.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Unfortunately, the, the, uh, computer equipment and, and related peripherals are changing and improving so rapidly, like for instance, we bought a [voices have faded]...