[speaker001:] yeah uh uh uh capital punishment I understand means if somebody commits a serious enough crime we kill them
[speaker002:] that's correct
[speaker001:] is that your understanding of it
[speaker002:] right uh-huh
[speaker001:] well let me put it bluntly there's not too many things that Arabs do right but one of the things they do is have a low crime rates they don't have too many repeat offenders
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and they have uh very serious capital punishment over there
[speaker002:] yes I I really think that um there is room for that I feel like if anybody has committed murder and they and they convict them that they definitely and they're sentenced to life in prison then it's not fair to have us to pay for them to stay there for life and then get paroled and go back out
[speaker001:] hum-um hum-um hum-um
[speaker002:] I believe that if they're convicted and it's um you know the only scary part I see in that is a crooked law system that would put people to death without enough evidence
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] to close the case do you know what I mean
[speaker001:] yeah that shouldn't shouldn't happen but unfortunately it it can
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] uh I I'm in I think we're pretty much in agreement uh in Texas this death by injection seems about as civilized a way as you can do it I guess
[speaker002:] well I don't think it's too uh productive to put someone in prison for a life time or like they say sometimes people get eight life sentences on top of each other
[speaker001:] yeah and then get out in what
[speaker002:] right and um then they're repeat offenders um I went to school with one of Ted Bundy's attacked girls
[speaker001:] um hm
[speaker002:] she was um older than me she was three years older but she went to the same high school as I did and we all knew when she was taken and he had been under suspicion and everything at that point
[speaker001:] he killed her
[speaker002:] and I think he killed her definitely uh-hum
[speaker001:] oh my gosh well I was in the University of Texas years ago when one guy killed two girls in his room and hid the bodies in the field and every now that was in the sixties every now and then he comes up for parole it just scary that he could actually get back out
[speaker002:] right um I think that in my belief I believe we uh I believe that if a person has killed then there really isn't much point to them going on anyway because they pretty much ruined what they came to earth to do you know what they're here to do to try to make life um the best that they can
[speaker001:] um-hum what would you think about public executions
[speaker002:] I definitely no I don't think so I don't think that that's something that we should try to get excited about watching like boxing or some sport I don't agree with that and I don't even think that they need to
[speaker001:] televised
[speaker002:] have more than just a couple people in there to make sure that it's done and it should be I think it should be done as painlessly and just done as nicely as it can be but I don't believe in keeping all these prisoners what do you think
[speaker001:] hm uh if if it's death let's get it over and done with uh the appeal process should be speeded up quite quickly quite quickly they had this guy on the news that's been around since seventy six and he's cost us over four million dollars so far
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] uh let's speed it up be sure it's as close to being accurate as possible and get it over and done with on the other hand it may not be capital punishment if you committed armed robbery and get caught you shouldn't be out you shouldn't serve one day and get credit for five or or ten days uh that maybe off the subject but uh
[speaker002:] oh I think that there should be capital punishment even for other things I think somebody that's caught selling drugs
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] if that shouldn't be capital punishment but if they're the high ones that are making these drugs and importing them I think that you could consider that because in essence they're taking lives
[speaker001:] um-hum oh I'd I I'd go with the ones on the street corner
[speaker002:] because people are thinking you know what am I going to get five years if I'm caught so what's the big deal
[speaker001:] no yeah start at the bottom start pushing the ones on the street corner they'll run out of supplies
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] I'm I'm cruel on that drugs have no place at all
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] and um so I I I think that it could go even farther than
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I think that I don't know it's hard you don't want to be so mean that you're you're doing away with people that have a chance to change but then I you look at the reports of people that are in prison and they act like they're reformed and then they get out and they repeat repeat these offenses
[speaker001:] right fairly quickly
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] fairly quickly I don't have uh you know we're in so much agreement I guess I'm try to play the devil's advocate
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] yeah as a Christian I can't even be the devil's advocate I'm a Christian and I still think there's an appropriate place for it
[speaker002:] that's yeah I'm I'm a Christian also and that's why you get in the situation where um it says how I believe but if a person's committed murder that's an unpardonable sin
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] and so why should we pardon something that we don't believe our our Lord uh God is pardoning do you know what I mean
[speaker001:] um um-hum yeah I can go along with that I just wish we could get get uh debate going here to get some verbal usage for the computer uh I have a brother-in-law that is strictly opposed to it and uh he is a uh very liberal uh believer in uh probation uh and convicts not being sent to prison but being sent to uh halfway houses