[speaker002:] so well she lives in Utah so
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh uh-huh that's the way we always were we always lived away from our family and relatives while the kids were growing up
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] you know
[speaker001:] well I guess we're going to talk about children today
[speaker002:] okay let's do it
[speaker001:] so you ready  my children are all gone already they're they're all out on their own
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so uh do you want to start first do you you uh do you work
[speaker002:] okay no I don't I stay home most of the time but I know that it's very difficult to to find good help sometimes when and especially when your when you want your children to be taken care of
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh right
[speaker002:] um you know there's a my neighbor she tends children though and and um there's a big controversy whether they should have to um have a a law a law to have them certified or or not and um you know there's pros and cons on both side of that because if they were then you kind of know that they had to go through some kind of testing or some kind of something to be okay okay get an okay seal
[speaker001:] right um-hum yeah but yet most of the problems we hear of course maybe that's what we hear about is from organized approved day care centers
[speaker002:] that's right that's right
[speaker001:] but maybe we don't hear about the other ones though that could be you know the individual incidence or something
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum uh now usually when I have someone tend um my oldest tends for me now if I go somewhere but before
[speaker001:] uh-huh how old is your oldest
[speaker002:] he's almost a teenager yeah he's he's very good um but um
[speaker001:] oh well he's plenty big enough then
[speaker002:] before that I would I would use uh kids from our church and they did a good job for me um
[speaker001:] um-hum um um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] but I've never had to leave them like in a day care center or anything and I've been very lucky just be able to stay home
[speaker001:] um-hum that's the way with me I I worked four years one time but but my last two children were uh both entering high school age
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh they were of course gone while I was working working so it wasn't a problem I saw and I stayed home the rest of the time
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I so I didn't have that problem either now I have my my oldest daughter she has two children and they've been in day care uh she works full time
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah that's hard
[speaker001:] it it's difficult but yet she's the type of person that I don't know if she'd be happy staying at home
[speaker002:] well some people aren't
[speaker001:] uh-huh she uh she surprised me though she's done a lot of things that I never thought she would do you know with with the family because she
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] the one that said she was never getting married and never going to have any children so she uh she spends a lot of quality time I think when she is with with the children
[speaker002:] oh is that is that right I think that's really important
[speaker001:] and uh she they've used the day care most of the time they tried once once they had a lady come in
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh she she also had a small child she brought with her and it did not work out uh at all it she thought it was going to she was real excited because it was so much easier than taking the children out in the morning but uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh the the lady called and her baby wasn't very old at the time and said she was having trouble and this baby is the is the most pleasant uh real pleasant baby easy to satisfy usually and and she was having problems with her and so she called and said things were okay settled down and was all right
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] well my daughter decided to come and check and things weren't okay
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] her her one son was watching the soapies which she doesn't allow them to watch the soapies
[speaker002:] oh um-hum
[speaker001:] and the baby was in his crib with the door shut just screaming his heart out
[speaker002:] oh dear
[speaker001:] and the babysitter was in the kitchen with her baby and so that ended that episode uh she was most upset over over
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] finding this
[speaker002:] yeah I bet
[speaker001:] so uh she they kind of had decided that the day care was better there is uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] more people involved more than one adult they and the age groups are separated and uh
[speaker002:] well nannies have been an option uh but I know that at day care they have more of a a routine like at uh maybe in um preschool would have where they have lessons and so forth and so on
[speaker001:] um-hum hum yeah story time
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh and the this one has been particularly nice it uh it kept track of what they did and they would tell the parents what they did that day you know if they said anything or did anything so it kind of it
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] kept it
[speaker002:] gave you an idea of what your child was progressing in or doing
[speaker001:] yeah I often I always thought that if you were checking into a day care that you would be good to get references
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh on people that had been in that day care but was no longer there
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] because they wouldn't have nothing to worry about saying you know if there was a problem they they would I think be more ready to tell you what it was
[speaker002:] oh I think so because if they were still there you know they might not
[speaker001:] they might not say anything
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] and uh other than how else how do you judge other than from what others have uh what you see uh the cleanliness and that type of thing
[speaker002:] you can't really you can't really unless your child would be old enough to say something and usually they aren't at that age
[speaker001:] uh um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] you know um
[speaker001:] but it would be real difficult to pick you you know to find one and decide
[speaker002:] uh-huh well I know I uh about three years ago I I tended some children
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] and uh you know I I wondered if I would have to be certified or wheth er they'd just bring them and and we got to where well we were just friends and so they said no don't do that we'll just bring them
[speaker001:] um-hum um um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and then if it was a problem then then we'd sit down and talk about it but it never happened to be a problem and and so things worked out okay and their kids played with my kids and it worked out well
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah yeah uh it worked out good I'm going to I've decided I'm going to babysit my two granddaughters
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] since they'll be going back at the end of the month and
[speaker002:] that's great
[speaker001:] I'm going to give it a try I I I sell Avon and Stanley products and
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] I've got that worked out my husband he's retired so he's going to deliver my products so I'll do my orders and that by phone
[speaker002:] well that'll be great yeah
[speaker001:] so uh I'll be able to keep that up a little bit but I think I think I'll enjoy
[speaker002:] yeah I bet you'll have some great experiences with them
[speaker001:] doing it yeah I I think I'll enjoy I I guess I kind of miss having a baby around a kid around or something yeah
[speaker002:] yeah  sure why not and and you know the grandparents uh I always hear it's always fun when you can send them home at the end of the day instead of
[speaker001:] right that's right well they do say you enjoy them more uh somebody somebody said if they knew grandchildren where so much fun they'd of had them first
[speaker002:] well that's right well uh my husband's mother lives right over here and she takes care of them sometimes for me and
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] and just is a lovely lady and have always appreciated when she's sat with them
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah my daughter always said she would not let me babysit because you do hear grandparents complaining
[speaker002:] and oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know because they're stuck with their grandchildren so much
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but they're the ones that complain a lot are the first