[speaker001:] so how do you feel about it
[speaker002:] uh I I I don't see any problem with with random testing for random drugs
[speaker001:] yeah I I myself almost um am in favor of it uh I work at Honeywell and I went through a a pretty I don't know I went through a standard drug testing thing before I I was brought on
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I think that's pretty standard at least at Honeywell it is um I think it's important to insure the quality and and uh I don't know almost the goodness of character you know and that kind of thing where do you work
[speaker002:] yeah um well I'm a graduate student right now at Carnegie Mellon and I I just came from Saint Paul uh interviewing with Three M
[speaker001:] oh okay oh okay hm oh great
[speaker002:] and uh they have a policy for uh testing if if you if they make you an offer then they'll test you right before you start
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and I guess the only drawback I can see to to drug testing is in in case you are on some sort of medication that might give some uh sort of false positive result
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] then there could be some sort of problem but uh it
[speaker001:] yeah yeah and that that definitely happens you know I mean those the drug tests assure us they're accurate but there's always that margin of error
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and that's that's something to be aware of another thing is a lot of times you know they aren't that accurate or they aren't that sensitive like if you're on a prescription drug of some kind you know what are they gonna do about that
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know I was on a couple of different prescription drugs when I was tested for Honeywell and uh uh you know I know they didn't catch that or else they would have said something um I'm sure they screen for just a particular few types although the literature they give with you says yeah we do this and then they list about five thousand drugs they try to test for
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] um I don't know what what program are you in over at Carnegie Mellon
[speaker002:] uh electrical engineering
[speaker001:] oh okay great um yeah I'm a graduate student at UCF in Florida University of Central Florida and this is actually a an internship up here
[speaker002:] oh wow
[speaker001:] but um they uh even for interns they they do the whole random drug or the whole drug testing thing so
[speaker002:] uh they they test you um before they before you start or before you even interview or
[speaker001:] right um they essentially no I sure don't um they essentially um they essentially uh made me the offer and then and then uh did the drug testing thing after that so uh it was one of those things where you go through the the general battery of all their tests and and then they essentially give you the offer
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and then at that point they'll they'll ask you to go to a drug testing and things like that
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] so uh there's some noise on this end I'm actually in a mall calling so
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] you probably wondered huh but so
[speaker002:] what what happens if you were to fail then do they give you like one chance one more chance or two more chances
[speaker001:] yeah that's a good question I believe from what I remember of the literature they gave uh if you fail I believe they give you one more chance they probably give you a chance to explain yourself
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and then maybe give you another chance to go through it but uh you know once again those things are not that accurate so there's undoubtedly a proportion of people who do fail you know but um what are you working right now anywhere or
[speaker002:] uh no I'm just about to finish my masters in May and uh just interviewing with companies right now
[speaker001:] okay oh okay great yeah that was the first time I'd ever gotten any kind of drug screening you know was was going to Honeywell a friend of mine is also a doctoral student down there and he's doing an internship with IBM
[speaker002:] um-hum oh
[speaker001:] and uh they basically uh did the same exact thing um we both got our internships at the same time and we both had to go through drug tresting at the same time so one of those things where we went through a kind of an identical process but uh
[speaker002:] do do they test you at right now at work too
[speaker001:] no no that's one thing they don't do is is drug testing while you're on the job uh I think I think the unwritten rule is yeah expect it but they don't do it
[speaker002:] okay oh
[speaker001:] you know so that's good I guess I don't know I mean I uh I have gone to a couple of parties since since that time and while I don't do any drugs myself I've seen some people who work there um you know smoking a joint or whatever and uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know that's the kind of thing that would definitely come up you know but no they don't they don't really do that
[speaker002:] wow is it formal policy that they said that they might test
[speaker001:] yeah