[speaker001:] Uh, so, you have children I take it?
[speaker002:] [NOISE] [Sounds like she is cooking, i. e. banging pots, water, etc] No, I don't.
[speaker001:] You don't?
[speaker002:] No, huh-uh. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] So, it's not a very valid topic.
[speaker002:] No, it's not. Do you have children?
[speaker001:] Uh, yes.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] One.
[speaker002:] One.
[speaker001:] Stepdaughter.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Ten.
[speaker002:] Ten.
[speaker001:] And, uh, [LAUGHTER] you know how they are at that age, I guess.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] you having been ten once,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] yourself.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Once upon a time I was. Well, I have two dogs, those are my kids.
[speaker001:] Oh, we have one.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] What kind is it?
[speaker001:] A Keeshonden.
[speaker002:] Oh, really.
[speaker001:] Yeah,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] fuzzy little thing.
[speaker002:] A what?
[speaker001:] A fuzzy little dog.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah, they're cute.
[speaker001:] Rather, rather odd personality, he, he's fun.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Anyway, uh, time we spend with our children.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [pause] It seems almost as though children hate it.
[speaker002:] Do they?
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Yes.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Time spent with Mom and Dad is, [NOISE] uh, next, is probably one of the worst punishments spent on earth to them.
[speaker002:] Yeah, especially when they get like into the teenage stage.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I guess. [pause] [LAUGHTER] Yeah, I remember when I was that age.
[speaker001:] They, you know, parents are a curse that they just have to live with.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. [sniffing]
[speaker001:] [NOISE] So, it, it's interesting.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But we do spend time driving in the mountains, and...
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Oh, how nice, I would love to live up there.
[speaker001:] Well. Do you work for T I? [NOISE]
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] You're working then?
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] With every passing day we wonder if we will be.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] That's what I heard. [NOISE] [Sounds like running water] I've always thought about maybe transferring up there, and I thought if I do that, I might not have a job so [LAUGHTER]. [NOISE]
[speaker001:] It's, it's better to be employed.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Especially these days where there is not a job right around the corner.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. I know it.
[speaker001:] And that creates family tensions.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure it does. [sniffing] So, you only have the, you only have the stepdaughter at home?
[speaker001:] Yes.
[speaker002:] You all don't have any other children around there?
[speaker001:] No, no.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I don't have any, an-, children.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. So, how does she feel about going out and doing stuff with you all.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Uh, well it varies what it is, of course, but usually,
[speaker002:] [sniffing]
[speaker001:] Mom and Dad are a curse.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] You know, they, they'd much rather be with friends,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] friends are cool, parents aren't.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] No, huh-uh.
[speaker001:] Well, I remember, well I'm sure part of it is a male, female thing, you know,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I, I remember whenever I was growing up, often times spent with my Dad was, oh, just wonderful, you know, go,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] go hunting, or go to the races,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] or, or, oh, any number of things.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And we'd have, um, great times,
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] and it seems that well now the bank's not available.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Um.
[speaker001:] [pause] And, entirely too much time is spent, my wife and I were wondering what if,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [pause] and, and what if's always rough.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[speaker001:] But, you know, we do have our trips and we do have our fun and,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] [sigh] I don't know, little girls aren't interested in lot of the same things little boys are or were.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Like fishing and...
[speaker001:] Hunting and, and,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Looking for arrowheads, and...
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] My husband will say that he'd like to have a little boy to take hunting and fishing and I said, well, you can take a little girl hunting and fishing just as easily.
[speaker001:] Uh, but they don't like it.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] That's probably right. [door]
[speaker001:] There, there, there is a difference there.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, and...
[speaker002:] No, if my Dad had done that when I was a kid I probably wouldn't have liked it. I go now, with my husband. And, I enjoy it, but...
[speaker001:] Well, girls at that age,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Video games, boys and malls.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] Not necessarily in that order,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] and friends of course.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] And, that's a little tough for fathers.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. I imagine.
[speaker001:] Fathers don't even like malls, they despise shopping.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Uh.
[speaker001:] So, is that quality time?
[speaker002:] Huh, no, I think not.
[speaker001:] Yeah, if, but there is camping and we both enjoy that.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, she likes to do that?
[speaker001:] Somewhat, yeah, yeah.
[speaker002:] Yeah , yeah. Well, that's good.
[speaker001:] Getting up in the mountains and getting away from it all and,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] that's somewhat fun.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. She...
[speaker001:] It's,
[speaker002:] Huh?
[speaker001:] so what do you think about child rearing? Is, how, how would you spend time with kids?
[speaker002:] Probably doing outdoorsie stuff, and keeping, trying to keep them away from the T V, I guess [LAUGHTER]. And, McDonald's [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] I, I always said that if I had a kid they wouldn't know what McDonald's is. [sniffing]
[speaker001:] Yeah, but
[speaker002:] But, they learn from their friends, don't they?
[speaker001:] Well, yeah, and amazingly a lot of times it's real easy.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] You know, a lot of times, whenever we head out of town on a trip or something,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] it's real easy to swing in there for breakfast.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Breakfast and run.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And breakfast is a kind of a funny meal anyway,
[speaker002:] Yeah. It is.
[speaker001:] and, uh, kids eat funny.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] This lady in our bass club, we had a tournament yesterday and she was talking about her daughter, said, one week her daughter will, uh, be on a no meat kick, and one week she'll eat nothing but Twix candy bars, you know, she just eats weird.
[speaker001:] And little girls are worse about it than little boys.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] They...
[speaker002:] They're always wanting to go on a diet or something.
[speaker001:] Or, or something, yeah.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Go on a diet or they, they have a, well, [NOISE] to some extent the public schools, or the schools in general,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] influence them,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] the eating meat kick.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] You know, like it's really morally wrong to eat meat or something,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I, I'm not sure.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Of course, that's not the way I was raised, being raised in West Texas.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Oh, is that where you're from?
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Born in Denton, raised in Lubbock.
[speaker002:] Oh. Um.
[speaker001:] So, I understand about bass.
[speaker002:] Yeah [LAUGHTER]. Huh.
[speaker001:] But it, but it is interesting,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I, I will tell you, yeah. Every person out there should have kids, at least once or, or have some they can borrow for a time,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] That's the kind I like. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] because everyone needs some torture in their lives.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] My Mother used to put that curse on my sister. I hope you have kids just like yourself. [LAUGHTER] And, my Grandmother must have put that on my Dad because he got my sister, she's just like him.
[speaker001:] Uh. But, Jenny is a sweet kid.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I'm sure she is.
[speaker001:] And, yeah, we do do things,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] and, it, it's funny, it's almost like a lot of things that were available to us as children,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] to go do,
[speaker002:] [barking] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] The money's not available.
[speaker002:] [barking] Uh-huh, I know, I don't know how people can afford kids. [throat clearing] I mean...
[speaker001:] You know, we were talking about how much it cost to go to Disney Land.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Golly! A couple, three hundred dollars.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] You know, for just, for just a day, not in-, you know, a day or two, not including lodging and food and all that.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] It's, I don't see how anyone can afford it.
[speaker002:] Uh.
[speaker001:] And, I understand Six Flags is real expensive now.
[speaker002:] It's, uh, I heard it's twenty bucks a whack. For adults.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That is awful high. Oh, well...
[speaker001:] Twenty bucks a whack now.
[speaker002:] Yeah, or twenty-one.
[speaker001:] But, at least once you pay your way in there,
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] at Six Flags...
[speaker002:] yeah, everything's free except for the food.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah, food and junk to carry out.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] So that's, that's not as bad.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker001:] But, golly!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] You know, Disney World or Disney Land.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Well, our problem is that, you know, a trip to Six Flags or Disney World or, uh, Disney Land, or God forbid, Disney World, would take forever.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Really.
[speaker001:] Or you'd have to pay air fare,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, ooh, for a family, you know, for a family it gets pretty expensive pretty quick.
[speaker002:] OH, yeah.
[speaker001:] Rent a car when you get there and all that. Yeah.
[speaker002:] That's why I lucked out, my Dad worked for Braniff when I was a kid so we got, you know, our air fare free and we got... [NOISE]