[speaker002:] all right do you have a bunch of factories and stuff out there
[speaker001:] um we've got quite a few actually what we're more concerned with is the inner pollution in the city uh we've actually had some warnings in uh Raleigh uh on air pollution
[speaker002:] the uh oh you mean for like smog and stuff
[speaker001:] uh-huh because of there're so many cars and we have a belt line along around Raleigh where we're trying to divert traffic
[speaker002:] hum
[speaker001:] and um you know it's it's still it's just surrounding the city and you can actually see it there's a couple of uh tall buildings in Raleigh and and you can actually you know they're blurred they're even dark and what it is is the pollution
[speaker002:] uh-huh huh what do you think of that uh the greenhouse effect that's going on
[speaker001:] well I guess that's fluorocarbons the fluorocarbons and uh
[speaker002:] yeah that's causing the hole in the ozone
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah that's very serious I mean we can we're even feeling the effects of the weather from uh uh the shift in the jet stream
[speaker002:] uh-huh it it is scary though isn't it
[speaker001:] oh yeah I mean uh the last two uh years our winters have been absolutely nothing I mean maybe one snow
[speaker002:] right well all right North Carolina that's up there by Kentucky isn't it
[speaker001:] Kentucky uh North Carolina is all the way on the east coast it's further west than Georgia it's uh right below Virginia
[speaker002:] uh-huh okay okay well Kentucky's next to Virginia I'm pretty sure well I'm from Kentucky I should know but I don't I'm sorry but Kentucky we use to have severe I mean just real cold cold winters and we'd have three and four feet of snow course here in Texas
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] they don't have snow they don't know what snow is they freak out when there's snow on the ground oh Amarillo well that's close to here how long have you been in Raleigh
[speaker001:] uh-huh originally I'm from Texas so I mean Amarillo so uh uh-huh yeah real close um I've been out of Texas about ten years
[speaker002:] well how old are you
[speaker001:] oh twenty uh seven I almost forgot my age oh really
[speaker002:] okay well we're the same age yeah I forget my age all the time so that's okay it's I think it's just something that goes with the territory but to me Texas see and Kentucky we had to have ice on the ground for them to close school okay
[speaker001:] hum uh-huh
[speaker002:] in Texas I'm serious if it gets cold and it looks like it's going to rain I I swear they close everything down I just laugh I mean I do they get I mean and traffic slows down to nothing
[speaker001:] actually they've been doing the same thing here it's you know it's kind of funny they um I guess northerners are different but even uh North Carolinians they don't know how to handle cold weather
[speaker002:] oh well no northern I'm from the north that's why I said we in Kentucky we I don't know you just get used to weather and of course the people down in south they don't they're not used to cold weather and stuff and uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] it just I don't know I just laugh everytime they have a everytime they have snow on the ground everything's closed up and you know you can have snow on the ground and not be slick on the road
[speaker001:] that's true
[speaker002:] but uh
[speaker001:] do you all have much pollution there
[speaker002:] no not really I mean not to see it now of course there's you know TI is here Oscar Mayer
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and there is a few factories but I don't see much pollution going on
[speaker001:] well you know what irks me is these cars that are driving down the road and you have that black smoke coming from their tail pipe
[speaker002:] um-hum well see they have that um uh what is it a vet test or something like that they call it
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh that's supposed to cut down on it
[speaker001:] well supposedly that's supposed to catch it but I'll tell you what and even these buses oh lord it's real bad these buses in Raleigh
[speaker002:] yeah school buses and the commercial buses yeah
[speaker001:] oh yeah I mean school buses are notorious
[speaker002:] well they're burning that diesel fuel is what it is
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and uh it it gets bad
[speaker001:] well you know what they've started doing is is instead of the tail pipes being at the bottom of those buses they've started putting them up at the top
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and that way it gets above um other cars on the road
[speaker002:] well that's a good idea
[speaker001:] and uh it really does make a difference although it it settles you know even if it's at the top and it's a lot of black smoke coming out it still settles and
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and you know if you're going to be jogging on the side of the road that's that's even more miserable I would I'd have to go out to the country to jog
[speaker002:] well uh the you know pregnant women aren't supposed to walk along a highway
[speaker001:] no I didn't know that
[speaker002:] because of that smoke fumes when I was pregnant with my first little boy I had read it because back then I was walking back and forth to Kentucky from well not back and forth I was walking home from uh the college I was going to in Kentucky and I was having to walk along the highway it was just one day a week but it was in
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I I have no sense of smell so I couldn't smell this but it would make me sick and I'd be real tired anyway just from walking along the highway
[speaker001:] hum uh-huh golly that's
[speaker002:] but yeah it's yeah it's all the exhaust uh well that was four years ago too it's probably a lot worse now yeah
[speaker001:] that's bad oh I'm sure well they um you can really feel it you know in your breathing even normal people and if you're older um I mean you can really deplete your oxygen and it'll you know pass out and it's you know it's killed several people
[speaker002:] uh-huh do you uh smoke
[speaker001:] um actually I'm a very I just smoke one in the evening if that so I'm a very very light smoker
[speaker002:] well yeah it's kind of like
[speaker001:] it was kind of funny they were doing some uh ozone testing and uh the the EPA and they were just screening some candidates
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I don't think I'd ever you know do that but they uh asked me if I was a smoker and I didn't fit into the smoker's category and I didn't fit into the nonsmoker's category um it was you know I was just one of those
[speaker002:] yeah because you do smoke one a day
[speaker001:] yeah in between people so that kind of threw them off
[speaker002:] hum uh
[speaker001:] but they're doing a lot of research here uh the EPA
[speaker002:] for the air pollution
[speaker001:] for ozone and oh yeah all that they're they're real big into it they've got Research Triangle Park here and they're you know they're just doing a lot of uh lot of stuff
[speaker002:] huh but they I don't hear much about it down here course Texas we don't have a bunch of pollution but too we've got that air coming in off the coast and you know it'd blow it up north
[speaker001:] hum-um oh uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] so maybe that's part of the reason it's not so bad down here
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but no it'd seem like it would be the same way in on the California coastline wouldn't it
[speaker001:] oh gosh I think I would hate to live in California the smog there I mean I can't believe they have warnings here which it it's mainly just when it gets real real hot
[speaker002:] um-hum uh-huh but they usually have that everywhere because of the humidity especially
[speaker001:] really well well that's kind of good to know because I thought Lord I thought I lived in a halfway decent area
[speaker002:] I think they do that for most everybody it's especially it's usually for the young children and the older
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] the old people
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] older old people
[speaker001:] well you ought to come to North Carolina it's a big change yeah
[speaker002:] it is
[speaker001:] there's no trees where I was from in Amarillo and here they've got the mountains the beach the trees you know it's they've got streams rivers ponds it's really pretty here
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh oh well this is pretty wooded area down here so in in a lot of parts yeah I know Texas is supposed to be flat but they've got you know down by the Denison Dam there's a lot of uh
[speaker001:] is it um-hum Sherman and Denison do you know my grandparents live in Durant
[speaker002:] they do they live close then in Durant Oklahoma
[speaker001:] yeah yeah real close I go there yeah
[speaker002:] you go where uh you go to visit them
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh yeah we used to go fishing in Lake Texoma
[speaker002:] oh yeah well down by Lake Texoma there's a bunch of wooded area this but Kentucky's beautiful they've got trees and trees are supposed to you know purify you know what the best indoor purifying plant is for smoke and stuff it's a philodendron
[speaker001:] huh huh-uh oh really
[speaker002:] it's supposed to filter the air for you in your home I had one my husband bought it for me when my daughter was born three months ago four months ago yeah I do yeah I do
[speaker001:] well I'm going to have to get some um-hum do you smoke do you did you smoke when you when you were pregnant
[speaker002:] yeah I did I couldn't make myself quit I did cut down a lot I got I've I've got one vice and smoke is smoking is it I don't I don't drink and I try not to cuss and I don't I do
[speaker001:] well I mean I can understand that actually well
[speaker002:] very little and smoking I just I got in the habit of it when I was about thirteen
[speaker001:] yeah well one thing I miss is uh is the people from Texas are are you know I miss their morals their values and everything it's uh
[speaker002:] yeah we're down here at the Bible belt aren't we uh I wasn't saved until I got down here and people down here are just there's so many Christians and it's so different from Kentucky but
[speaker001:] um-hum how'd you get involved in this research
[speaker002:] um I worked at TI for a while but then my brother-in-law works there and he got me into it
[speaker001:] oh I see huh
[speaker002:] how'd you get into it
[speaker001:] um I I was taking a voice IO class and um and actually doing some research and so they told me about this project
[speaker002:] uh-huh well it's fun I like talking to new people and I
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] half the time well a couple of times I've been interrupted by my little girl I've had to hang up and stuff but I enjoy it I talked people from well Carolina well Carolina now
[speaker001:] uh-huh um-hum
[speaker002:] up in uh Boston and New York well Boston is New York isn't it
[speaker001:] um-hum uh no Boston's above uh-huh
[speaker002:] no Boston Massachusetts but I've talked to people in New York but I've talked to a lot of people in Texas because I guess it's because of TI's down here
[speaker001:] yeah I've talked to a lot of people in Texas I had one call from actually from Charlotte North Carolina and Virginia and um
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I can't remember where all um up north like you said I think one was from Boston
[speaker002:] well with Boston I love their accent I do I love a Boston accent accent I met a girl from Boston one time my husband was in the service so we went from Kentucky to Louisiana down here to Texas
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and his family's down here we're out of the service now but yeah he got out of it his unit right after Panama we went to Panama he went to Panama when Noriega was doing all that
[speaker001:] um-hum oh I bet you're glad uh-huh oh gosh
[speaker002:] and uh he