[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] now where do you live
[speaker001:] I live in Richardson Texas
[speaker002:] oh well we're pretty close then
[speaker001:] you bet well see our subject was gun control
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] I'm sort of uh prejitice prejudiced on this subject because that's my vocation that's what I do for a living because I'm a I'm a manufacturer's sales rep and I sell hunting and shooting supplies working working for eighteen different companies so I would guess I would be sort of pro
[speaker002:] well I guess we have something in common then because I don't think it's guns
[speaker001:] pro pro guns but uh okay
[speaker002:] that are the problem it's it's the people
[speaker001:] no I agree one hundred percent
[speaker002:] I mean they're just an inanimate object until they are in the hands of someone who is who is violent or has a a sick warped mind
[speaker001:] I agree with you one hundred percent Jean I'll tell you that somewhere I saw a bumper sticker years ago I'd like to see more of them I think uh speaking from my my viewpoint think it read something like uh when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns
[speaker002:] exactly
[speaker001:] and I think that sort of speaks for itself I believe uh in some gun control but I think it's and I you know in selling to the industry or selling for the industry to dealers I think that it's the federal government's stand that should be taken and I think that dealers now or to buy a gun now an individual just has to go in a store and and show his drivers license and if he has a Texas state drivers license and if he lives in Texas he can go to any gun dealer and buy a gun merely by filling out a yellow form and and paying for the firearm and leaving
[speaker002:] with it at the time
[speaker001:] right it would be it would be handy if they had you know computers being like they are if they'd have some kind of a computer program on a national level where you could just dial an eight hundred number and and run a check on someone
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I would be for something like that
[speaker002:] yes it would uh but then too the people who who have guns already um some of them they may have had this gun for twelve years before they uh become mentally unbalanced and use it
[speaker001:] that's true
[speaker002:] and otherwise I mean if someone is going to get a gun uh and is determined to get a gun and commit some some act they're going to get it whether they can walk in a store and buy it or if they have to break into a house across town or something you know they're going to get one
[speaker001:] absolutely
[speaker002:] but uh no you and I I think have the same idea that guns are not the problem
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I've heard a lot of people say why I wouldn't have a gun in my house they're too dangerous ignorance is what's dangerous
[speaker001:] you bet absolutely
[speaker002:] uh I have uh many grandchildren and they have all been raised in the house with guns with loaded guns they have been taught the danger of guns how to handle them um from the time well I had a granddaughter that I raised and from the time that she was um three or four she knew that the gun that I had was not to be touched and that it was dangerous and I never had to worry about her
[speaker001:] well that's wonderful
[speaker002:] but uh anytime that she would have friends come I would put I had a closet that would lock and any gun firearms that were loaded we usually keep a uh twelve gauge shotgun loaded and then my handgun and anytime that there were other children in the house I had I put them in the closet that locked just for safety sake
[speaker001:] well that's great we've always done the same thing and being in the business I've sold guns for twenty seven years I'm fifty two years old and I've sold guns for twenty seven years worked for some major manufacturers like Winchester and people like that and and I always consider a a firearm I know they're very dangerous but I always consider everything a sporting firearm and I realize that just as you say some people don't think of them as that but that's how I think of them being that I'm in the business but main thing is just be education and communication on the subject and that's something we have always tried to do and I'm a strong believer in that
[speaker002:] yes I think that these children that find guns and shoot themselves or another child uh if they if they knew what they were playing with they wouldn't do it
[speaker001:] absolutely right
[speaker002:] because they would my son-in-law one of the when the boys were just very very small he was educating them about the guns and he took a watermelon out and set it up on uh this little rise out on the desert where they live
[speaker001:] right