[speaker001:] Uh, books.
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] Mainly I read the Bible these days.
[speaker002:] That's very good. I do, too.
[speaker001:] Good, that's great to hear. Uh, and Christian literature.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Uh, I've kind of, I used to read a lot of, uh, novels, but it seems as though if you really want to set a t-, side time to read the Bible and you work and
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and whatever, uh, that pretty well takes up your time for reading.
[speaker002:] Yeah, it does. It,
[speaker001:] And I, I been praying that God would put a desire to read the Bible [LAUGHTER] in my heart and he really has. It's getting,
[speaker002:] That's good.
[speaker001:] to where a just really want to read it.
[speaker002:] That's good. It, it, [throat clearing] it's, uh, it's hard for me to find time, also, to read. Uh, a lot of times I do just read magazines and stuff like that for, you know, because I don't have a lot of time, but when I do get to sit down and, and read, I like to read the Bible and I like to read, I read to my daughter a lot, too.
[speaker001:] Do you?
[speaker002:] And, uh, I like to read, you know, Bi-, I have Bible storybooks
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, uh-huh.
[speaker002:] so I like reading those to her and she really enjoys those. So that's good. And it, and it's kind of short because we don't, woe don't have a lot of time,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] to, to read, so, it's real enjoyable.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] For both of us.
[speaker001:] Have you ever read any of Frank E Peretti's?
[speaker002:] Frank E [whispering], no I guess I haven't.
[speaker001:] Uh, THIS PRESENT DARKNESS and, uh, uh, I forget the t-, the other, well he, uh, he's also written a lot of children, how old is your daughter.
[speaker002:] Five.
[speaker001:] Five, okay, he's written some children's books as well and they're all spiritually,
[speaker002:] Oh, really?
[speaker001:] uh, oriented, yeah.
[speaker002:] What's his name again? Peretti [whispering],
[speaker001:] Frank E Peretti,
[speaker002:] Frank E Peretti [whispering].
[speaker001:] P E R E T T I.
[speaker002:] I have to look for those.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Yeah, do because, uh, I love to read his, his, uh, children's books just [static] [LAUGHTER],
[speaker002:] Just to read them. Well, that's good.
[speaker001:] Yeah, oh, they're good, they're great.
[speaker002:] That's good.
[speaker001:] And it's like, uh, uh, usually about a family of, uh, archaeologists
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and the spiritual fights that they get into,
[speaker002:] Oh [breathing].
[speaker001:] like, uh, uh, digging in old ruins,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] and running across, like, uh, the old gods and things.
[speaker002:] Oh, that sounds pretty neat.
[speaker001:] Yeah, it is. It's real exciting.
[speaker002:] Oh, I'll have to look for those.
[speaker001:] And it also teaches them spiritual warfare
[speaker002:] [Sniffing] Right.
[speaker001:] you know, so,
[speaker002:] Well, that's neat. Well, I [throat clearing], I have a, my daughter has PRECIOUS MOMENTS collection
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and I like that because it's a, it's real easy to, uh, follow for her, you know, uh, gosh, if, if I read straight out of the Bible to her she'd [LAUGHTER] never understand any of it.
[speaker001:] Well, it's hard for me.
[speaker002:] That's right [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] It is, it is real hard to, to follow and understand,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] and, uh, I've got a Bible that, uh, has a little bit of a, uh, [breathing] a glossary in the back and it helps explain who people are. That's, that's about the hardest thing is, who's related to who [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I know it, and especially it's hard to keep your interest
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] in those begats.
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yes, it sure is, but, but it is good reading and it's good for us,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, that's right.
[speaker002:] and [sniffing] and everything. I really do enjoy it. But, uh, [lipsmack] I also, but then on the other extreme I like to read, uh, uh, I guess ho-, I don't know, horror, Steven King type books.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, yeah, I've read a lot of his, too.
[speaker002:] The, and I, I like that, that's good fun reading.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Can't put them down.
[speaker002:] No you can't, you really can't. They are good and ooh they just, they're just so suspenseful.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, yeah.
[speaker002:] I really do enjoy his.
[speaker001:] Uh, there's another guy. Oh, what can, what is his name [lipsmack]. Oh, durn [LAUGHTER], you would, well you know when you're recording you can't re-, remem-,
[speaker002:] I know [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Uh, oh, Dean, uh, Kratz, or Kranz or,
[speaker002:] Judith Krantz?
[speaker001:] Y-, who?
[speaker002:] Judith Krantz. I know her.
[speaker001:] Uh, no, it's a guy.
[speaker002:] Oh, okay.
[speaker001:] And he, he writes the same thing, though. It's that real,
[speaker002:] Oh.
[speaker001:] gruesome [LAUGHTER],
[speaker002:] Ooh.
[speaker001:] horror stories.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That's good.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Koontz. Uh, his last name ends in a Z, I know that.
[speaker002:] [Breathing] Yeah, oh, I think I know who you're talking about. Uh, I've seen, I don't think I can pronounce it either, but [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Yeah, uh,
[speaker002:] Yeah, I'm in a book club and I think I've seen his books
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] in there [throat clearing]. I've never read any of his. But they're real,
[speaker001:] I kind of got burnt out on Steven King, though. It seems like it's all the [breathing],
[speaker002:] [Sniffing].
[speaker001:] did you ever read the, uh, uh, oh, it's one of his first books, THE STAND.
[speaker002:] Yes. That, oh, that long thing.
[speaker001:] I know it. And that seems like all of his books have kind of come from that, I mean.
[speaker002:] Yeah, they do kind of follow or,
[speaker001:] You know, that,
[speaker002:] Are similar.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. I love that book, though. I thought it was great.
[speaker002:] Yeah, it really was, and I loved THE SHINING.
[speaker001:] Ooh, yes [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] That was, that was my favorite.
[speaker001:] Oh, those hedges when they started moving.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] Whenever they [LAUGHTER], they made that into a movie, I was thinking oh, my gosh if they show that,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I'll just die. For some reason that scared me more than anything.
[speaker002:] Yeah, that is, he just brings stuff alive, you know.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] You could just visualize everything.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] That's,
[speaker001:] And that was a pretty scary movie, too.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I think they did a pretty good job, but [throat clearing],
[speaker001:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] they didn't follow it exactly, but they did give it, you know, do it justice.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. That's right.
[speaker002:] But, uh, most of the time they don't with, when, follow books very well [sniffing] when they make them into movies [child talking].
[speaker001:] Yeah, that's true. I liked IT as well.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah, uh,
[speaker001:] That's,
[speaker002:] I did, too.
[speaker001:] another big fat one.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah, that was good. I liked, uh, I also liked, uh, CUJO. Did you read that one?
[speaker001:] Yeah,
[speaker002:] And,
[speaker001:] except it broke my heart.
[speaker002:] Yeah,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] I'm a dog lover.
[speaker002:] Me, too [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] And then, uh, [throat clearing] NIGHT STAND, is that NIGHT,
[speaker001:] No, it was, uh,
[speaker002:] DEAD, DEAD ZONE. That's one I liked.
[speaker001:] What?
[speaker002:] DEAD ZONE.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker002:] That was a,
[speaker001:] I've read that one, too.
[speaker002:] That was a real good one.
[speaker001:] He's written a lot of books.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Boy, he just sits down eight hours a day.
[speaker002:] [Throat clearing] I know it.
[speaker001:] Just like any other job.
[speaker002:] Right, and then he has some under, uh, another name.
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] That he's written.
[speaker001:] That one about the Gypsies, or that,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] hunger or, s-, uh,
[speaker002:] Yeah, uh, I think his name was Bachman. He wrote under the name of Bachman.
[speaker001:] Yeah, Richard Bachman.
[speaker002:] Yeah. He is really interesting.
[speaker001:] Yeah, he's so prolific.
[speaker002:] Yeah [breathing]. Ooh, I wish I could do that [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Oh, I know it. And I have gone back and, after I, I graduated, I read some of the old classics that I just bluffed my way through
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and have found that I enjoy them quite a bit, too, uh,
[speaker002:] I do, too. I love old, good old,
[speaker001:] Once you can get into the language, you know, the l-,
[speaker002:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] It's like, it's English, but it's not the same English they speak today.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] So it's kind of hard to keep, you know, at it, but
[speaker002:] That's true, but I,
[speaker001:] they're worthwhile.
[speaker002:] That's, that was one of my favorite subjects in school was, uh
[speaker001:] Literature?
[speaker002:] literature.
[speaker001:] Yeah, me, too.
[speaker002:] I used to love those old, good, good old books.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] [Sniffing] I didn't mind doing that at all [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Nathaniel Hawthorne is pretty scary himself.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah. I liked, uh, [throat clearing] oh, gosh why can't I think of their names, uh, [lipsmack] [breathing], shoot, the one that wrote, uh, WUTHERING HEIGHTS.
[speaker001:] Uh, wasn't that Jane Ehre? *spellingEyre? No,
[speaker002:] No that was another one.
[speaker001:] he wrote JANE EHRE, too [LAUGHTER]. *spelling Eyre?
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah. Uh, well, you know who I'm talking about [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Yeah, those are good old
[speaker001:] Yeah, uh-huh.
[speaker002:] good old books and classics, that's right.
[speaker001:] Right, right.
[speaker002:] Sure is neat [faint].
[speaker001:] That's why I like to watch that MASTERPIECE THEATRE on channel thirteen,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] because they'll take a classic and, and, uh, televise it
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] you know, put it into a viewing format,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] more or less.
[speaker002:] A lot of people just don't have time to read nowadays.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I know it's, it's really hard for me. I work two jobs and
[speaker001:] Do you?
[speaker002:] uh, have my daughter and teach Sunday school and go to school, myself, so it's, it's hard for me to
[speaker001:] Well, I can imagine.
[speaker002:] sit down and read, but when I do I just, just love it.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah me, too.
[speaker002:] [Sneezing].
[speaker001:] Well, I think we've accomplished five minutes so,
[speaker002:] I think we have, too.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Thank you very much.
[speaker001:] It's good talking to you.
[speaker002:] You, too. Bye-bye.
[speaker001:] Bye-bye.