[speaker001:] Okay, um, now the term personal computer, uh, I don't happen to have one at home. Um, but I do have a personal computer on my desk here.
[speaker002:] A type of work station?
[speaker001:] Yeah, uh, yeah, just kind of, it's kind of a kluge that was pieced together to, to, uh, shall we say bypass the formal procurement process. And, uh, it, it works just fine. It says it's a monochrome monitor, Panasonic printer, uh, no big deal, it, it does the things I need for it to do.
[speaker002:] Is it a two eighty-six or three eighty-six base machine?
[speaker001:] No, it's not even that.
[speaker002:] It's eighty eighty-eight?
[speaker001:] Uh, I think that's about where it is.
[speaker002:] Okay. Uh [pause], what type of, uh, utilizations do you make of it? Word processing obviously.
[speaker001:] Uh, yeah, I do that, I, I do, uh, some Lotus on it. Uh, do some, uh, Samna, some, uh, P F M, uh, nothing extremely complex.
[speaker002:] Okay. Uh, I use them both here at work and at home.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And I have I B M clones in both cases.
[speaker001:] Yep.
[speaker002:] Here at work I have the T I one thousand which is a three eighty-six base mach-, machine.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah. I bet that's a pretty nice setup.
[speaker002:] Yes, it is. Uh, unfortunately I need all of it.
[speaker001:] Yep.
[speaker002:] Uh, for example, I was messing around with a spreadsheet this weekend that's a third of a meg in beta size.
[speaker001:] Wow.
[speaker002:] And that, I know that, uh, brings an eighty eighty-eight machine to its knees because [LAUGHTER], I had taken it over from a friend who was working on it and he had a two eighty-six machine,
[speaker001:] Yep.
[speaker002:] and it brought it to its knees.
[speaker001:] Wow.
[speaker002:] Just in the ability to handle. And then I have, uh, a three eighty-six F X a sixteen bit machine,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] at home. And I'm really pleased with it.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] It manages to take care of all my home needs in terms of word processing and spreadsheets and,
[speaker001:] Sure.
[speaker002:] uh, databases, database searches.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Uh, what I've gotten into more recently are the tools to use them. Have you,
[speaker001:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker002:] To try to make them more effective and useful.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Have you been, uh, struggling along those lines?
[speaker001:] Well, um, I seem to always be in the, the next to the last generation of word processing software. When everyone was in Samna I was still in P F M, and now that I finally become proficient in Samna everybody's going to WordPerfect. So, I can never quite stay current with that.
[speaker002:] Well, I think you will be real pleased to get away from the banana as I used to call it. It's, uh, I used it on, uh, some other machines in days gone by and was real pleased to leave it. It was a real memory hog when you started making large blot changes to it.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] The, at least the version I had tended to keep copies of that.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] Of what you were changing and deleting off in memory until all of, all of a sudden you got a disc full error.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] Not a fun thing to try to recover from.
[speaker001:] I can bel-,
[speaker002:] Very frustrating.
[speaker001:] I can believe that.
[speaker002:] Uh, but again I've been dealing with large files both data and, and otherwise. Uh, that was a engineering spec on B two. You come here with the B level of specs?
[speaker001:] No, not really. I'm not that up be on that sort of thing.
[speaker002:] Well, it's just a huge file that tries to describe the requirements of what you're trying to build.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay.
[speaker002:] Uh, to one level down from assistant description.
[speaker001:] Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, well, it sounds like you're pretty much into computers.
[speaker002:] Well, I sure need them. Uh, there's no way that I could begin to process and keep up with the kinds of information or the magnitude of information that I need to, to try to do my job without them.
[speaker001:] I can believe that. Well, it's, it's been interesting.
[speaker002:] Yes, uh, maybe you'll play around some and figure out how they can help you do different things. I think that's when you, you start deciding that you really need greater assets than you already have. When you start seeing what all they can do for you.
[speaker001:] Yeah, of course, needs and wants aren't necessarily the same thing.
[speaker002:] Well, I understand that [LAUGHTER], you know. if, needs and wants were the same I'd have a four eighty-six machine at home [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I wo-, is, is that the newest thing now, the four eighty-six?
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] That, that must be a fairly recent release.
[speaker002:] Uh, that's, came out around the first of the year.
[speaker001:] Okay, okay. Because I, I had done capital packages for two eighty-sixes and three eighty-sixes, but I didn't know they had a four eighty-six just yet.
[speaker002:] It does a few more things,
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] uh, than had been available before.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] But I'm not sure that it's such a massive improvement. Uh, you know, once you get passed thirty-three megahertz, all help is, kind of lost in the, in the translation.
[speaker001:] Sure.
[speaker002:] Because you no longer can think that fast anyway.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Well, okay. I enjoyed our discussion.
[speaker001:] I did too, and you have a good day.
[speaker002:] You do the same.
[speaker001:] Bye-bye.
[speaker002:] Bye.