[speaker001:] okay Bill right
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] okay Bill have you done much camping
[speaker002:] uh yes I'm a scoutmaster in Boy Scouts
[speaker001:] ah ha
[speaker002:] I camp uh every month uh camp at least one weekend and during the summer we camp uh two or three weeks a year
[speaker001:] oh well that that sounds good
[speaker002:] I'd say I camp quite a bit
[speaker001:] yes you do um now do you have a lot of mountain well you don't have mountains in Texas do you where do you find places to camp
[speaker002:] well uh we we do a lot of canoeing when we go camping
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] and we uh we also uh carry all our equipment with us
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and so we canoe down the river and then sleep on the river on one of the uh sand bars and then get up the next morning cook our breakfast and go down the river again
[speaker001:] oh oh my word well that sounds adventuresome well um I've done oh I would say quite a bit of camping mostly with my husband and I
[speaker002:] how about yourself
[speaker001:] um we have five children and so we have found that camping with the little ones isn't as enjoyable as just when we go ourselves so we've tried to get out once a year and go on a anniversary camp out and we have gone up into the mountains and uh not necessarily roughed it but we have just found it just real enjoyable to be alone up in the mountains
[speaker002:] well that's good
[speaker001:] and then the boys are our boys are old enough now they're twelve and eleven and so they're involved involved in the scouting and they do a lot of camping with the scouts
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and last year my one twelve year old went to the scout camp for a week and so this year they'll both be going and so that's been real enjoyable for them
[speaker002:] great
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] what uh what kind of camping do they like best do they like it where they have tents and uh do they cook on stoves
[speaker001:] um yes they've well no actually they've I remember they have taken the the Dutch the heavy cast iron Dutch ovens and done their cooking there over the fire
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and I don't think they've taken the stoves um last year they camped in tents and this year I believe it will be in tents also
[speaker002:] uh-huh of course I imagine it gets cold in parts of Utah
[speaker001:] so uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] it doesn't get very cold in Texas so lots of times we don't even take tents
[speaker001:] oh is that right
[speaker002:] we just use trail tarps
[speaker001:] oh and what does that consist of
[speaker002:] uh it's just a piece of material that has uh that has a lot of uh places where you can tie off to it and make it into a tent
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh like a uh they're very light weight and we use them when we go backpacking so we go backpacking fifteen or twenty miles then uh they're not very heavy see so you carry them with you and
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh
[speaker002:] they'll keep you dry or whatever
[speaker001:] yes uh see when when we go camping here we have to take our big huge heavy sleeping bags and lots of tents and I like to sleep on the air mattresses I don't am not my bones are getting so old so I like to I like to sleep on the mattresses
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] um so have you had any adventures on your camping trips with encounters with wild animals or anything like that
[speaker002:] yes yes in fact uh um last month we went camping we saw a lot of deer
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] uh in the morning and in the afternoon just deer everywhere
[speaker001:] my word jeez
[speaker002:] uh so uh but it even though uh it wasn't hunting season and we were with Boy Scouts so of course we don't uh want to go hunting
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but we got to see a lot of deer
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] um out and about and there's of course we see smaller animals all the time and uh one thing that is a big concern in the evening at night uh is uh make sure that all the food's put away and so forth
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] because uh we have uh armadillos do you know what a armadillo is
[speaker001:] oh uh they're covered with like a heavy armor
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] type stuff uh-huh
[speaker002:] and possums and uh raccoons
[speaker001:] my word
[speaker002:] and uh we have those uh creatures down here that they like to uh they like to go hunting for a a midnight snack
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and so that that uh that can be a problem if you don't put all your equipment away
[speaker001:] oh but they won't necessarily attack a human or bite you or anything
[speaker002:] they will if you attack them
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] but most time they run away from you
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] if if they if they see you're up you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but they don't have any problem walking right by you if you're asleep
[speaker001:] oh my word
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] well that sounds a little less fierce than bears we we want to go