[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] all set do you want to start
[speaker001:] I can go ahead and start uh
[speaker002:] sure go ahead
[speaker001:] in Dallas there's definitely a crime problem I know it's you know worse in the larger cities um it's kind of a concern for me in fact at the moment I'm thinking of possibly moving to a new apartment and uh it's I am single and female you definitely are going to worry about the location and uh
[speaker002:] oh God
[speaker001:] you know accessibility of people to be able to break in I live on a third floor now but I you know I'm real concerned that I I don't want to be on a first floor where you can have problems with things like that and
[speaker002:] do they have many buildings that have security there
[speaker001:] the um some buildings do it depends on the location the area I live in right now is is real good as far as crime rate is concerned and we don't have anything at all no burglar alarms no guards some some places do have guard gates that you have to get through or electronic access gates and things like that
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well I I went to Dallas um when I worked for TI in Abilene and uh I I'm a little familiar with the city area Forest Lane and you know through that off off the freeway
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[speaker002:] and uh it didn't seem like it was that congested in that that part you know because to me where we live out here in the north east it it's there are a lot of buildings very close to each other
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[speaker002:] and the cities are very populated with tenement housing
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[speaker002:] where there are more than one family in a house
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[speaker002:] and with with the uh people that are coming into the country from other countries not knowing the language and uh they're they're going to the big cities it makes it very difficult
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[speaker002:] it really does and and I I've seen the same thing that you're talking about uh much more crime than ever before drugs of course uh a big part of it I think
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[speaker002:] and uh I don't know a lot of younger people you know into more violent crimes
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah
[speaker002:] that that that's really sad you know you got young boys or girls that at fourteen or twelve years old that are committing murders and no remorse what so ever
[speaker001:] um-hum there's a lot of that going on in Dallas too
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] it's really sad
[speaker002:] it is and and I don't know if it's uh the family you know thing where they're not bonding anymore where mothers are working all the time and
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[speaker002:] the kids aren't getting the attention that they need or the television
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[speaker002:] and I I really think that we're we're falling by the wayside with not incarcerating these people
[speaker001:] oh I agree I think that people are getting off too easy they're getting they're getting paroled too easily they're just getting uh put on probation or something because the prisons don't have enough room so they get they get
[speaker002:] I uh yeah
[speaker001:] they get lighter sentences and some of those people they don't deserve to be let loose
[speaker002:] yeah exactly and and you know they had uh in fact on the news last night we were watching this uh man who lost his ten year old daughter he ran out to the store for a few minutes and he had left her home alone she now ten years old she's old enough to be alone for a few minutes you know
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] and while he was gone he had looked went looking for a job and stopped at the store that's what it was and uh someone who was in the neighborhood cleaning carpets these two men went in raped the girl murdered her
[speaker001:] oh my gosh
[speaker002:] and the whole bit and one of the men got uh I think it was seventeen years and the other one was in for uh life imprisonment
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[speaker002:] the one that was in for the seventeen years actually served seven and he's out
[speaker001:] uh that's terrible but
[speaker002:] and the man said that you know if if it weren't for the fact that he would go to jail that he would eliminate this person himself and then go to McDonald's and have a hamburger and not thing a thing think a thing about it
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] and I mean I think that what this is going to lead to is people will take things into their own hands
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and that innocent people I I shouldn't say innocent because I mean actually actually if they commit a crime that they're in the same circumstances but
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[speaker002:] the reasons that they're doing it compared to the reason someone else is in jail for it you know it's like two different things
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] sometimes when you lose someone that you really love you do some crazy things
[speaker001:] right it's a little more understandable under the circumstances I guess
[speaker002:] I don't know I I like the idea that uh if someone is from a foreign country
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[speaker002:] and they come to this country and uh commit a crime I think that irregardless of whether they have already become a citizen or anything they should be immediately deported
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[speaker002:] especially if they're found guilty of the crime
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[speaker002:] you know once they they have been arrested and if they know beyond a shadow of a doubt these people are guilty that's it we don't take care of them we don't support them
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[speaker002:] nothing I mean they go right back where they came from
[speaker001:] right we have enough enough problems with overcrowding in the jails as it is so let let their country take care of it we don't have I guess too much trouble in Dallas with well I guess I guess we do have a lot of people come in from Mexico
[speaker002:] exactly and
[speaker001:] that cause problems but uh
[speaker002:] but that's uh they're they're so close I I don't consider Mexican people in the same category with uh especially like uh people who come from cultures that don't have the same uh kind of moral upbringing that we have
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] like you take Asian countries or uh the Eastern countries where women are like in the foreground uh in the background and the men are in the foreground and it's like you know um they live back in where where we came from two hundred years ago you know we've we've advanced beyond that
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[speaker002:] and I think that their uh mentality as far as the way they treat them and that kind of thing you know what I mean
[speaker001:] um-hum it was amazing I went to the Far East uh back in October to do some training for TI and I uh
[speaker002:] it's uh-huh
[speaker001:] some of those countries were so safe it was unreal Singapore is very supposed to be very safe and in fact Tokyo and I thought Tokyo would be dangerous being such a huge large city with so many people
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but they at at the TI there I said is there any area I should avoid and the guy said let me ask another girl here and he turned and asked this girl and said can you think o f any place where Dana shouldn't go by herself or anything and she she thought for a few minutes and she said no and he said is there any place you wouldn't go by yourself she said no  and they said it is so safe there that you can leave your purse on the subway
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] and somebody will turn it in and the and nothing will be missing they said they can just about guarantee that there uh that that would happen if you did that I thought boy in America if you left a purse on a subway you would never see it again
[speaker002:] wow you better believe it if you wouldn't even have to leave it I mean it would get snatched right off your arm
[speaker001:] yeah that's true that's true but I was thinking boy in Dallas if somebody asked me if there were places you wouldn't go by yourself at night I'd have to set them down for about five or ten minutes to list all the places out I mean
[speaker002:] oh sure
[speaker001:] I couldn't believe that she couldn't think of any place they said the crime apparently the crime is just uh
[speaker002:] that's amazing well what's what's the difference there do you know
[speaker001:] I'm not sure what it is there now I know what it is in Singapore is they have the death penalty and they really enforce it like for drugs
[speaker002:] oh I I believe in the death penalty I really do
[speaker001:] for drugs they they enforce the death penalty for that uh they're just very very tough and I guess maybe that's the way Tokyo is too or Japan is too they're just very tough on criminals
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I think that we're too easy uh and we take the the uh civil liberties uh stuff too far
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[speaker002:] you know like people that are in prison I mean we didn't put them there they put themselves in that situation and as far as like them uh entertaining the rights that they should have
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[speaker002:] I mean we educate them we feed them we take care of them and they no sooner get out on the street and they're back in again
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I'm not saying they're all bad but I think people who are guilty of really serious heinous crimes do not deserve to be cared for for the rest of their lives
[speaker001:] um-hum right
[speaker002:] I think that they should be put away
[speaker001:] and if they're overcrowded well you know they shouldn't have gotten theirself there in the first place
[speaker002:] get rid of them exactly I I really I I think that that's the whole key here this plea bargaining baloney
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[speaker002:] where uh you know they plead to a lesser crime or uh they plead guilty in or you know tell about someone else and they they get less time
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[speaker002:] or if they're in there and they've got seventeen years and they're on good behavior they get for every year they're in they get so many less you know that they don't serve the full penalty
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[speaker002:] I I I really think we're going to far overboard with all of this
[speaker001:] oh yeah I agree because it's not fair to those of us that that deserve a safe you know life to have to
[speaker002:] yeah same with drunk drivers
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I think it's too easy for them
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[speaker002:] that if the the laws and and uh were were harsher and were enforced
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[speaker002:] I mean you have to set an example you have to start somewhere
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[speaker002:] and I think that people know that they're going to get a slap on the wrist they might serve a little bit of time and that they'll be out on the street again
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[speaker002:] an I and I feel bad for the policeman because he's out there every day facing these people
[speaker001:] um-hum right
[speaker002:] this this craziness you know people with uh automatic weapons and uh all this other stuff and trying to do a job and let's face it what do they get paid
[speaker001:] right not much
[speaker002:] twenty thousand dollars a year if they're lucky I wouldn't do it for that
[speaker001:] yeah hum-um and especially not in some of these big cities like in Dallas I mean they've had they're up in the top top five I think of cities that are getting policeman killed on on in the line of duty and that's really sad
[speaker002:] it is it really is and I mean they're the first ones that take the brunt of everything
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[speaker002:] you know and uh I'm not saying that they're all good either because there's good and bad in everything but they they're already uh have strikes three strikes against them when they're out there
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[speaker002:] because they'll arrest someone and you know go through all that paperwork and writing a report and all this and having all kinds of evidence and you have to even be careful how you arrest them how you talk to them uh you know what they say
[speaker001:] right