[speaker001:] been on the line for awhile I almost forgot what the topic was
[speaker002:] okay um based
[speaker001:] uh but I know what it is uh let me see I I I I I'm kind of I don't know you know I'm I'm kind of in the middle I I think it's a great idea
[speaker002:] oh okay good uh-huh
[speaker001:] but when it comes to me it's like almost an insult you know so it's I I've come from the teaching field
[speaker002:] right so do I
[speaker001:] so so it's just like I don't know I I guess I guess I'd have to go with uh I I I'd be for it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] you know but uh you know I I I don't know it's just kind of a kind of a delicate subject I guess but I I I would I would probably go for for going ahead and doing it you know if it's got to be done for everyone
[speaker002:] right I think if it's got to be done for one person in the company it should be random testing it should be for everybody
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know when they answer the company I think it'll make it a lot easier and they'd run into less problems
[speaker001:] right yeah
[speaker002:] because uh I don't know I come from the teaching field too and it sort of uh it's a pro and a con type I don't know where to stand on it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I'm more or less if they told me I had to well then fine but if you know if they made me then I'd probably if I had my druthers I'd probably say well no you know just this
[speaker001:] yeah yeah you kind of goes into your privacy and
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] you know but I guess if they you know you know there's uh I I guess there's some companies that aren't that are doing it and it it seems to be working out so
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah I think it's it's what they're basically trying to do I don't know up here in Massachusetts anyhow what they're basically trying to do is uh oh gosh uh any people who had drug tested positively getting them into a drug program or rehab program
[speaker001:] yeah right
[speaker002:] and uh anybody who uh gee is you know did doesn't accept the rehab program then they're more or less getting laid off
[speaker001:] see that's hard
[speaker002:] I I think that's really hard to because you know you never know I don't know it's it that's a it's really weird issue I'm sort of on the fence about it
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] but I you know that that's what's they're coming across as is some of the companies anyhow oh we can get you into a drug program but then you wear that stigma you know
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] where uh like a lot of people are saying well I only smoked a joint last night I don't have any problems you know or something like that yeah
[speaker001:] yeah and then I kind of hear it goes into like uh this is just something I've heard that it kind of goes into like uh just your off the counter medication that you could be taking for a cold that it kind of affects that too
[speaker002:] right anything with an a you know if you drink a lot of caffeine or yeah somebody was saying telling me if you drink it in you know an awful lot of caffeine that that can show up as a positive test
[speaker001:] oh I didn't know that um
[speaker002:] I know I'm an epileptic so I'd probably test positive and
[speaker001:] yeah see things like that so
[speaker002:] and then I'd have a heck of a time explaining what drug is in my system you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and a lot of times those are the things I don't like to disclose to an employer because then they don't want to have anything to do with you you know it's very personal
[speaker001:] right right uh-huh
[speaker002:] I wouldn't want to have it disclosed because then I'd always wonder if they fired me you know why did you fire me
[speaker001:] see that's yeah that's where I kind of get into cause it's just kind of gets into your personal life you know and
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] it's like what's what's kind of next
[speaker002:] yeah it it hits me as the Orwell thing Big brother is watching
[speaker001:] the what
[speaker002:] Orwell
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] and you know his book Big brother is watching
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] you know you're being controlled that type of deal and I shy I don't really you know I don't know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] seems awful strange I'd hate to have to if I had my choice between a company that did testing and a company who didn't I'd probably take the company who didn't
[speaker001:] right yeah
[speaker002:] because I feel there'd be more trust in the employees
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] but I can understand why they need it with all the you know train accidents and everything else
[speaker001:] so do you think they'll kind of push into the teaching field eventually I kind of think they will
[speaker002:] uh I think they will too because uh you know it's just going to follow
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I don't know I we haven't had any of it in our school system so uh you know hopefully we won't
[speaker001:] yeah  we haven't either oh yeah but I I I just kind of think it's heading that way though you know it's just because it's just hitting to close to home with the kids and stuff and I just
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I just kind of think it's going to eventually head that way
[speaker002:] well and eventually it's going to be not only the teachers you know the kids are going to be under scrutiny it's going to be the teachers
[speaker001:] yeah right
[speaker002:] and if they can test the teachers that gives them the full right to test the kids
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and then they've you know caught everybody more
[speaker001:] yeah