[speaker001:] I'm ready well in Atlanta Georgia you probably have a lot more crime than we have here in Patterson California
[speaker002:] oh could could be
[speaker001:] uh this little city is only about eight thousand people
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] oh yeah we is is crime a problem there do you like a major problem minor problem or
[speaker001:] well in Patterson there's it's not a problem here but like uh I lived in Oakland uh until just recently
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh Oakland California God they've had like uh sixty seven murders so far this year compared to like uh forty at this time last year
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so it's really bad there it's all related to drugs it seems like
[speaker002:] yeah oh yeah
[speaker001:] is that what it's there too
[speaker002:] yeah um I've only been here for like oh probably just over six months I started started school here
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] um I came from a smaller town in in New York and crime the city was fairly big size or not real big but we had a problem there but here it's just no comparison that much more crime uh
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] every every night the news is very depressing because it just you know they run down the list of how many people were shot you know drive by shootings or
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] whatever and it's it's it's pretty bad they're they're it's things are basically improved here over the last few years they've the they've actually taken steps to try to make it better but it still it still is a problem
[speaker001:] yeah Like I don't know what they can do to make it better unless they just hire more policemen
[speaker002:] well that's that seemed to be what they were doing and it has and they've started stepped up more patrols in certain areas and it has has made some places safer but you you know it's very difficult I mean if you don't have an infinite amount of money to to try to stop the problem although most people wish you could
[speaker001:] uh-huh um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] as it is a is definitely a problem and you know the more it more less that's done about it the more it seems it tends to spread even to smaller areas unfortunately
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah well I I think that if they would do something to these people that they do catch instead of just slapping their little hands and you know then then maybe those other people would be kind of scared and they would not do these bad things you know
[speaker002:] right yeah I think I think uh it's uh seems to be that I don't know some people they tend they do something you know they shoot somebody or whatever they go to jail sentenced to jail for like thirty years they're out in five and they're back on the street and then they shoot someone else and just cyclical cyclical cyclical and it seems seems as though the the system doesn't tend to stop them unless something is drastic is done
[speaker001:] yeah I just don't understand our our laws here because you know like in other countries man I mean they're really a lot stricker than we are
[speaker002:] yeah it's it's definitely true it seems seems as though we we try to play humanitarian I think to a little to much and maybe some of the people don't deserve the the humanitarian treatment that they get
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] unfortunately but I don't know it's a difficult situation I think and some something has to be done because I definitely think it's it it really plays reeks havoc with uh your quality of life when you know you can see it's going on around you but then when once it finally affects you then then it really starts to bother you
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum um
[speaker002:] but it seems I mean it people move like out of the city because they want to get away from the crime and so they tend to spread the cities farther and farther out but you know it's only a matter of time before you know it still catches up with them you can't really run away from the problem
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and something you know something has to be done but it's just that too many people argue about how to fix it
[speaker001:] yeah I know when I lived in Oakland it was just that uh like I definitely wouldn't go into certain areas of of the city by myself
[speaker002:] oh sure
[speaker001:] and uh and then then again some areas I wouldn't go by myself after dark
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] you know
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] but down here in Patterson well like I say it's so small that you can go anywhere
[speaker002:] yeah yeah that's good
[speaker001:] but just uh like twenty miles away see in Modesto they have uh those gangs and things over there
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and it's it's bad in Sacramento also they have uh drive by shootings it seems like all the time
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so I don't know I just I just don't know what what they can do you know
[speaker002:] yeah yeah it's it's to bad because it's um I mean the just the even the random occurrences where you know it's unsafe for a woman just to walk from their car to the some in certain areas like from from the car from their car to the mall or something and it's dangerous and it's just that's just ridiculous and
[speaker001:] I know
[speaker002:] you know it's just uh it's just not right something you know
[speaker001:] yeah I mean like even even going to the grocery store I know we've had this one lady that was attacked you know I mean just uh you just you just don't know what to do anymore you know
[speaker002:] right right right
[speaker001:] and some of the times it's happening in the daytime too you know so it's not always happening at dark
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so I don't know
[speaker002:] yeah it's uh definitely unfortunate unfortunate and it just