[speaker001:] okay now uh the town I live in uh they started a recycling program uh in the certain small part of town a little couple neighborhoods neighborhoods and they said that they were disappointed in the response that people they tried to promote it and everything but I don't think the city necessarily supported what the they were doing uh
[speaker002:] is this like roadside collection
[speaker001:] yeah I don't think they really uh encouraged it I don't think they really uh made it well-known how to do it uh that's my perception but
[speaker002:] well now down here we've got you know collection bins in the parks and things but there's no you know there's absolutely no
[speaker001:] yeah there used to be uh a big uh trash bin several trash bins in front of the Wal-Mart in town here that uh you could put plastic jugs on one side and newspapers on another and glass on the third but uh that has been taken away it's not there anymore I mean that thing was always full because people really brought stuff to it all the time and uh then they took it away for no real reason that I can understand or I ever heard about and it's not there anymore and the only place to take things to recycle them is like clear off on the other side of town and who's going to do that very few people
[speaker002:] that's right well I've seen you know I've seen examples of uh communities where they they take the other other approach you know you you have to do it or you're fined
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] and you know I'm actually all for that I don't I'm probably not the best best person for recycling but I'll be damned if you know if they they didn't uh charge me an extra ten bucks for garbage collection every month I'd be sure and recycle
[speaker001:] yeah how how how do they monitor that though I wonder
[speaker002:] I mean it's not that much trouble it's just different different communities that pass the laws that say you have to have to recycle you have to you have to you know on Mondays they pick up glass and on Tuesdays it's you know plastics or whatever and if if you don't uh if your garbage is just out there in a bag and it's not sorted you know they mark you down and fine you for it shit it's kind of like
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] it's the same principal when there's a drought they fine you for using water you know they just
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you don't do what they say and you not that I promote over government or anything but you know the the world's in a bad enough state
[speaker001:] you know I
[speaker002:] people being the way they are you kind of need some incentive
[speaker001:] yeah it would definitely help you know even if they were to uh uh pay like for recycling aluminum or uh newspapers or whatever I mean they used to be that if you well like grocery stores you buy uh pop and and you had a deposit on the bottle you bring the bottle back you get a nickel per bottle back or whatever you know that encourages you not to throw it away you'd take it back and and
[speaker002:] yeah right
[speaker001:] and get your money back or at least exchange it for another bottle that's full you know
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] um I haven't seen that done for a long time either
[speaker002:] yeah no deposit no return
[speaker001:] yeah everything's no deposit no return or else it's all plastic jugs that you just pitch you know uh
[speaker002:] I was listening to Karen DeNard the other night on the way home from school you know she's got that talk show and uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] KRA and they were talking about you know a lot of the plastic bottles you can't just throw all plastics together
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] and they were talking about you know you need legislation to uh identify what kind of plastic it this is what can be recycled as what
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] because you know say shampoo bottles I think was the example they gave there's no they don't even give you any indication of what kind of plastic that is you just can't throw that in with your
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] two liter Coke bottles or whatever
[speaker001:] I wasn't aware of that I thought they were more or less all the same
[speaker002:] yeah so did I that's that's it was news to me too I thought it was kind of interesting though
[speaker001:] there needs to be legislation that they should all be the same plastic
[speaker002:] yeah they yeah that or you know things need might be identified and there needs to be a means a convenient means for people to to recycle I know for me now I've got to drive a few miles down the road to do it if I want to do it and a lot of times it's the difference between doing it or not doing it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know is whether you can like take it out the back like stick it out in the back back alley for the guys to pick up when they do or having to throw it in the back of your car
[speaker001:] or at least have you know a a bunch of collection bins around the city you know if they had one for every five thousand people or or two thousand people uh you know just scattered throughout the city you know who who wouldn't mind just you know why going down that way anyway just throw things in the back of your car and
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] and take them down and throw it in there I mean I think that would be great I I'd support that entirely you know as a country we produce way too much garbage it's it's it's phenomenal
[speaker002:] yeah way too much well I know just as an individual you know I know how many times I haul out a bag of trash and it's like incredible if you multiply that times everybody
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] you know on my block in this city it's crazy
[speaker001:] where I work there they have uh uh recycled paper thing so you just you have two trash cans in your office one one is for the regular
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] non recyclable trash and is for paper yeah and you know I think it's great I use it all the time
[speaker002:] yeah you're TI right yeah so am I
[speaker001:] you know and I read that the companies now save like what fifteen thousand trees or whatever because of that and I thought that's great
[speaker002:] yeah it is
[speaker001:] you know
[speaker002:] I guess there's the other side of the issue that uh there need to be facilities for processing all this stuff and a market for recyclable goods
[speaker001:] uh yeah
[speaker002:] and that was something they brought up on the show I listened to was uh you know there's all kinds of you know recycled paper but you know nobody's wanting to use it
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] you know how many people are using how many people do you know that use recycled paper in the office
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know you can you can buy your your Moore's computer forms for your computer paper or whatever you can buy it with regular paper or recycled and I'll guarantee you in my building I haven't seen recycled paper yet
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] so at the same time we're we're doing all this effort to throw it a way and recycle it we ought to be working on the other end and and paying the extra dime on on a dollar for that recycled stuff
[speaker001:] I've always wondered why they haven't taken some of these recycled plastics and made them into like uh plastic boards to build a house with instead of making it out of wood lumber make it out of out of plastic boards
[speaker002:] well I think they actually do some of that but again it's the cost the cost of processing that it just
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] it intimidates people you know it's easier to buy something that's you know the the the cost of building is already
[speaker001:] once again the bottom line counts
[speaker002:] yeah for it it's easy to say but for a lot of people to do you know if you were building a house and you were going to spend you know fifty thousand versus twenty thousand on mat erials because your
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you're going to you're going to pay for uh technology that's not mature yet
[speaker001:] yeah that that's a problem
[speaker002:] what are you going to do you know you're going to spend twenty thousand and
[speaker001:] and then right it off
[speaker002:] and yeah you mean you're going to do what you can
[speaker001:] that's right well
[speaker002:] but uh
[speaker001:] that's about all I have to say tonight
[speaker002:] I was surprised I thought this thing was shut down but I
[speaker001:] what's that
[speaker002:] I thought this whole switchboard thing was shut down I was surprised to get the call
[speaker001:] yeah so did I but I thought I'd try one more time and sure enough it's okay
[speaker002:] yeah great
[speaker001:] well thanks for talking and
[speaker002:] all right all right bye
[speaker001:] see you later bye