[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] sure go ahead
[speaker001:] what kind of books do you like to read
[speaker002:] oh I like all kinds of books
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] mostly uh something I like like true life
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] not uh you know documentaries or real stories about real people and that kind of stuff or dramas in real life
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh I also like romantic novels I like uh I like Readers' Digest believe it or not I usually read that from cover to cover
[speaker001:] yeah so do I yeah
[speaker002:] I like it because there's a little bit of everything in it
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know that kind of a thing uh as far as like real novels I haven't gotten into Shakespeare or any of that type of thing
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I wish I had in some in some senses but I don't have time really as much as I would like to to get into that kind of thing how about you
[speaker001:] um well I like like you said real life um I like uh biographies of people's lives like especially like athletes for some reason it seems to interest me like people that make a big comeback or
[speaker002:] uh-huh sure
[speaker001:] you know Orel Hershiser things like that
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and um I like to read books on improve like family marriage you know things that are written by like Christian authors or um doctors about family and you know how to improve your home and all that kind of thing um I like to read the magazines I to read like I like to read Readers' Digest I read a lot of bicycling magazines they're I mainly look at the pictures and stuff but they just usually have some good articles in them
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but uh I don't know I haven't really found any romance type stuff I like to read I I'm more true you know fiction uh nonfiction I haven't found a lot of uh fiction books that I really like
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] but uh not to say I wouldn't eventually I mean what was the last book you read
[speaker002:] yeah uh jeez let me think it I tell you I haven't read a book in a long time and it I can't even really remember uh I think it was a romantic novel by Danielle Steel or one of those you know yeah honestly um I don't do as much reading like I say as I would like to
[speaker001:] really yeah
[speaker002:] we've been working a lot of hours at work and
[speaker001:] really
[speaker002:] yeah and then of course we have a home so it's
[speaker001:] I know
[speaker002:] you know a lot time is spent doing things as far as the yard work or housework or you know that type of thing
[speaker001:] yeah I set I set a goal for myself to read a book a month this year which is like about eleven more books than I would have read last year but so far I've only read like two books and so I'm not doing very well but
[speaker002:] but see I do crafts too so it's hard I if I have a minute that's what I do I do
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I find it's real hard I let papers newspapers stack up and magazines stack up if I don't really set aside a time to look or or read them
[speaker002:] and that's the and and that's like myself I've I've I've miss it because I really find it a very relaxing hobby too
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I really do and um I don't know it seems like you can get lost in a book you know it it it's like an escape for me I don't know about you
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah yeah yeah
[speaker002:] it's if I'm really interested in what I'm reading I mean hours can go by and I I look up at the clock and say oh my word you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] in fact I'd rather read sometimes than watch TV
[speaker001:] yeah oh I would too um
[speaker002:] but I think you get out of the habit like you say you have to like kind of set yourself
[speaker001:] kind of train your mind
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] have you ever read uh or heard of the book This Present Darkness
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] that was one of the books I read this year and it's really fast paced and intense it was a nonfiction book or is a fiction book but it was a real it was one of the best I've read I mean it was it was real good and it was um it was one of the few books that like it you know just hurry up and go through without putting down you know
[speaker002:] yeah right see that's the other problem I have if I start into something and I really enjoy what I'm reading
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] then I have a terrible time getting away from it too I'll stay up until two or three o'clock in the morning you know because I'm so engrossed in it and then before you know it it's time to get up and go to work you know that type of thing
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] that's why I I don't know I'm I'm kind of a nut when it comes to stuff like that even if I'm uh doing something like an afghan if I'm close to the end sometimes I'll do the same thing
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I don't know what you would call it maybe I have a problem
[speaker001:] no I'm sure it's
[speaker002:] it's terrible I I really like books that that you can get into and that's sense
[speaker001:] fast or something uh-huh I know what you mean I like reading late at night right before I go to bed sometimes I just sleep better or something
[speaker002:] oh yeah you do you kind of get relaxed that's true
[speaker001:] but uh
[speaker002:] I have a lot of craft books that I have too and uh magazines I like People you know those things that are about real people
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and um I I like to uh read about people who've been a successful you know who've who made a success of their lives
[speaker001:] yeah which what book have you read that is along those lines
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] that was really good
[speaker002:] to to to give you specific titles I can't I can't like I say haven't done it in
[speaker001:] well how about who
[speaker002:] in such a long time
[speaker001:] do you know who it was about
[speaker002:] um well I went to uh seminar on uh it was for by American business and some of the people uh what the heck was his name I'm trying to think he's one of the uh Paroe and um it was more like oh it there was tapes and things that they had about him too how he started out as just a salesman and now he's you know multimillionaire and that type of thing and uh how you have to uh be aggressive and you know really want something for yourself and that type of stuff
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] it's like up to you in other words whatever happens in your life it's not up it's not someone else you have to do it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and I find t hat fascinating that people you know can do that kind of thing
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] just make up their minds that that's it you know have this one direction
[speaker001:] and then do it
[speaker002:] do it I can't I'm not that focused on something I I'm off in all directions um and I'm not uh um a planner which I wish I was
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know kind of off the wall if someone says do you want to do this tonight uh and I got a mountain of things to do it's okay you know we do it
[speaker001:] uh-huh well that's all right
[speaker002:] I know I know but I wish I was more the other way
[speaker001:] you're more fun though see you're not ridged right
[speaker002:] yeah right I I that's see I like it that way though I I I would I don't want to change that part of me that's funny uh even though I admire someone who isn't
[speaker001:] that's good yeah
[speaker002:] like I am you know and and I wish I could be more that way but
[speaker001:] there may be some schools you could read about and learn
[speaker002:] that's true that's true how many people do you supervise
[speaker001:] uh about twenty
[speaker002:] oh that's not bad that's not bad at all
[speaker001:] no no
[speaker002:] do you like your job
[speaker001:] sometimes sometimes more than others but yeah I do I've been there about three years
[speaker002:] oh that's oh that's important do you have a family
[speaker001:] yeah I just got married last year and um most of my family's in Indiana
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] so I've only been in Texas three years
[speaker002:] do you like it
[speaker001:] yeah I do I love the weather down here
[speaker002:] I I loved I loved Abilene too that's what I liked too is the weather
[speaker001:] yeah I know
[speaker002:] except for tornados
[speaker001:] boy they they have storms here I've
[speaker002:] yes they do and it it it's so surprising how it just happens you know
[speaker001:] hail and thunder and yeah
[speaker002:] unpredictable
[speaker001:] were you here during the hailstorm two years ago
[speaker002:] uh no oh I've been up here about three uh we were down there uh from eighty six to eighty five to eighty six no uh eighty well part of eighty four to eighty six I should say
[speaker001:] yeah boy I had thirty three hundred dollars damage done on my car a lot of people had their cars totaled just from hail
[speaker002:] oh wow
[speaker001:] I think State Farm went bankrupt just about
[speaker002:] oh jeez I know the whole situation is bad
[speaker001:] but uh
[speaker002:] up here we're having a terrible time with the recession
[speaker001:] really
[speaker002:] yeah yeah it's not good at all
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] I know things are pretty booming down there I heard they sold Johnson City though
[speaker001:] yeah and Colorado Springs
[speaker002:] and Colorado Springs
[speaker001:] yeah I talked to a guy on the phone on this the other day and he was telling me about it
[speaker002:] oh wow
[speaker001:] they just sold it
[speaker002:] amazing
[speaker001:] closed up and moved down to McKinney
[speaker002:] oh well that's good at least they kept the business part of it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's scary though I'm telling you
[speaker001:] I know
[speaker002:] I don't know and well you know with the other part of this thing was how do you feel that this influences family
[speaker001:] how do I feel what
[speaker002:] that that books influence do you know how to use them in your life or to influence
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I I feel like it's important for young children to read too and what you read to them
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] when my children were were younger of course they were all married and grown and I have grandchildren now they were uh I I read to them a lot
[speaker001:] that's good
[speaker002:] and uh I think they've all developed kind of an interest in reading also I'm not saying they read all the right things but they do read uh where a lot of people don't have any interest in it at all and I think it's important
[speaker001:] that's real yeah  oh yeah
[speaker002:] because uh even today where people are so illiterate and they go off to school and really nothing happens I mean they don't learn anything it's because they can't read
[speaker001:] yeah it's really surprising how many people graduate from high school and that I work with and people I mean I get memos all the time across my desk and things are misspelled and it's really
[speaker002:] yeah oh it's so unbelievable isn't it
[speaker001:] it's pretty sad a lot of people that work for me that can't even spell or read you know
[speaker002:] yeah exactly and I think that that's why reading is so important
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] because uh I think even mentally when you can do some