[speaker001:] okay uh do you have children
[speaker002:] no
[speaker001:] have uh are you a grandparent or you just have never had children
[speaker002:] I've never had any children
[speaker001:] oh oh well this is kind of hard topic for you then isn't it
[speaker002:] that's all right I'm opinionated
[speaker001:] you're what
[speaker002:] I'm opinionated
[speaker001:] oh oh okay we're we're grandparents now and uh we did spend a lot of time with our children they were we had five boys and one girl
[speaker002:] uh-huh um-hum
[speaker001:] and they were all into Little League and and athletics and fact we had two two state wrestling champions
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] and uh then we had uh they were in Little League they were in uh Cub Scouts and uh they were just busy and we just spent time with them I mean with five boys you're just following one or the other all the time
[speaker002:] um-hum five
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] and one girl
[speaker002:] uh-huh well you had to have something to even it out there
[speaker001:] you what
[speaker002:] had to have something to even it out
[speaker001:] yeah we had a basketball team and this cheerleader
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] but um we and then we went camping with them and everything and uh we enjoy our uh enjoyed our children they're scattered all over the world right now we have two in Germany one in Dallas
[speaker002:] I was going to say that's a Black Forest cuckoo clock you have
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I can tell by the sound
[speaker001:] right right and then we have uh one in Chicago he's an airline pilot and then one in Chicago Cleveland that's a doctor
[speaker002:] airline pilot for what airline
[speaker001:] pardon
[speaker002:] what airline
[speaker001:] American
[speaker002:] really
[speaker001:] uh-huh do you do you are you connected with American
[speaker002:] my dad flies American he's retiring in April
[speaker001:] oh my goodness
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] well how long has he flown for them
[speaker002:] oh twenty some odd years
[speaker001:] oh oh
[speaker002:] twenty four twenty three something like that
[speaker001:] well our our son's been with them about eight I would maybe not six maybe six but he's a captain now so we're happy with that
[speaker002:] well uh he'll he'll enjoy the the freedom that that kind of a job gives you course
[speaker001:] he does he says and to think they even pay me for it
[speaker002:] yeah that's what my dad says you know as soon as he is retired he's gonna you know hire some hire an airplane
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] because he really likes to fly
[speaker001:] yeah well our son that's a doctor uh has his pilot's license too but just it's a small craft
[speaker002:] huh well huh
[speaker001:] but uh how old are you may I ask
[speaker002:] I'm thirty seven
[speaker001:] oh and you don't have children do you
[speaker002:] uh we can't
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] we tried but it's just not gonna happen
[speaker001:] well sometimes that happens and sometimes uh you fill your life with other things so
[speaker002:] well we have animals and we have uh chickens and dogs and cats and birds
[speaker001:] oh do you do you live on a little farm then
[speaker002:] yeah we have a little you know just about ten acres out here out you know about ninety miles north and uh west of Dallas
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] so it it's stop it's it's a lot of fun I'm building our house right now
[speaker001:] oh that oh my goodness you must be talented
[speaker002:] well I was a you know contractor for past fifteen years
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] doing uh anything from you know bagging concrete for a pad or uh you know I did uh couple of complete remakes of a house you know tore down and started over almost on one of them
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh
[speaker002:] yeah my uh specialty is in restoration restoration
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] I figured well I'll build myself a house you know and I'm doing it now as a matter of fact I just got out of the shower
[speaker001:] oh oh your wife answered the phone that's why oh well we're just watching the BYU football game at the Holiday Bowl you probably don't follow that
[speaker002:] no not not that close hey don't televise that down here
[speaker001:] oh it's on ESPN
[speaker002:] well we don't take cable I mean it would cost a fortune
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh oh
[speaker002:] see we're they just put the phone in four years ago
[speaker001:] well oh my goodness
[speaker002:] you know there was no phone service for ten miles
[speaker001:] oh you're really rural
[speaker002:] yeah we are crazy as they say yeah
[speaker001:] well we we're about sixty miles north of Salt Lake City so have you ever been there
[speaker002:] um I went to Salt Lake once
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] and I was very I guess we were seven or eight
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] but uh
[speaker001:] well we better get back to the subject did um
[speaker002:] oh yeah raising kids
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I think the first thing you got to do is unplug your TV set and give it to the Salvation Army
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] they watch entirely too much TV they have
[speaker001:] uh I think a lot of children do nowadays our with the with the athletics and the well they all took music lessons
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and uh so with everything that they were involved in the arts especially our high school kids didn't have time for TV
[speaker002:] yeah but I've worked well I work and live in the Denton area
[speaker001:] into what
[speaker002:] in the Denton Texas just north of Dallas
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh you know I'll tell you I went to I graduated from the University of Nor th Texas a couple years ago and I you know went back as
[speaker001:] uh-huh