[speaker001:] good so what common hobbies do do you have Cathy and
[speaker002:] oh I do um cross stitch and some needle point
[speaker001:] cross-stitch and uh needle point uh-huh
[speaker002:] and needle needle point and I also crochet
[speaker001:] and you do crocheting
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] my goodness I ought to have my wife here talking to you I think
[speaker002:] uh what kind  what kind of hobbies do you have
[speaker001:] well I don't whether we can call it a hobby or not and uh many years ago music was a hobby to me
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] but as I have gotten older I found out that music has taken over about half of my time and uh now that I'm I retired about uh not quite a month ago that'll be uh I guess most of my efforts
[speaker002:] what kind of music do you do do you do you perform or do you
[speaker001:] well I I yes I play uh violin in um three different symphony orchestras local a local one here in State College and then one in Altoona which is oh forty five miles away and
[speaker002:] wow um-hum
[speaker001:] and another one at the Lockhaven University which is about forty five fifty miles away
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh I formed what is called a State College Municipal Band oh about ten fifteen years ago I play trumpet in that and conduct occasionally once in a while
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh um-hum
[speaker001:] so I'm pretty busy in keeping that band going and trying to keep my violin playing up to uh an acceptable level of these other orchestras
[speaker002:] oh it sounds like you are busy that's almost an occupation now
[speaker001:] it does does take a lot of work and then when I have spare time I uh also am an amateur radio operator
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] but I don't
[speaker002:] for uh for ham radios
[speaker001:] um-hum I have so little opportunity I am hopefully the next year or so going to uh rebuild my station and uh get back on the air a little bit more consistently
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I do have the equipment but as the antennas blew down the last few years I just went off the air and that uh that was the end of that
[speaker002:] oh yeah I've always thought that was interesting I've never know anyone or or used a ham radio but I always thought that the concept was really interesting
[speaker001:] it is it's it's a very interesting thing to talk to people all over the world it's what it amounts to
[speaker002:] um-hum I didn't know how far of a of a distance I guess depending on what kind of aerial that you use
[speaker001:] depends upon the frequency and how good of an antenna you have and how conditions are about every eleven or twelve years conditions change
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so that uh you're signals get into different parts of the world
[speaker002:] oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] man I have at one time or another talked almost not every country in the world but in all areas of the world
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] I oh I have when I was really active I had well over a hundred different countries that I had talked to
[speaker002:] uh-huh regularly
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum fairly consistently yeah well tell me about this work that you do and uh do you display display these sell them or uh how do uh
[speaker002:] that's exciting oh uh well actually yeah I've I've done some original work not very much in cross stitch
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but I I did do one for my husband's mother and unfortunately she passed away the day I finished the day after I finished it
[speaker001:] you know that sounds exactly like things that Pat does but
[speaker002:] and uh she never saw it she never knew anything about it
[speaker001:] hum that is a shame
[speaker002:] it is and it's kind of spooky the the thing that I did I did the twenty third psalm the last verse
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and it was I presume you're familiar with that
[speaker001:] yeah and this is something that you would make into one square and hang on the wall is the way you do it uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh yeah it's it's in uh it's one picture and it is hanging on the wall and I entered it in the State Fair of Texas under original art work and I won fourth place with it
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] but I do pictures all around I've done some pictures oh I've done polar bears and sayings and I've done um uh sunsets and quite a few wedding and baby announcements
[speaker001:] where do you get the information to that enables you to do these different pictures uh are they already worked out so that you know
[speaker002:] most of them are already worked out I have worked up some but not many of them and the ones that I haven't worked out there's magazines everywhere
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] and there's uh craft books and there's several designers that once you've you've been with a particular craft like this you get to know the designers and you end up having some favorites in the designers
[speaker001:] hum well that is a very interesting thing it it is awfully nice to have something to do that that you enjoy so much that you can put you soul into it so to speak
[speaker002:] well well I do well and you can easily uh there's parts of me sometimes there's even a little bit of blood in some of my art work from needles
[speaker001:] yeah I can imagine from needles yeah
[speaker002:] yeah but I've got uh a little baby he's there he goes he's seventeen months and uh my cross stitch time has
[speaker001:] yeah I can hear him