[speaker001:] the invasion of privacy is a topic that gets some people kind of mad I don't mind it too much uh it's more of a bother sometimes than it is uh a real invasion to me in that uh some of the purchases that you make if you make them with a credit card in a given location for a given amount all that stuff goes into a big computer data base and tends to go to the marketing schemes and then they will hound you forever for a particular purchase like that uh one of the the uh cards little little card I answered in the mail that had a bunch of topics would you be interested in this be interested in that an it was kind of a little survey type deal and I checked off a few things and just out of curiosity once I decided to see what would happen if I if I checked off uh about some stock uh portfolio information as it were for the different investors and within about a month I would say I had ten fifteen calls from different brokers uh asking me questions all sorts of things about what I would be willing interested in investing in and how much I had to invest and and I was kind of curious and I guess I got my answer but it was uh a bit much and to this day it has continued considerably it's I guess it's going to be hard to get off of that little list now
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh other little forms of of uh not really an invasion it's public record it's it's not uh not even they never told you it would be considered private but whenever you buy a house uh the purchase price is there for everybody to see where it's located is there and and uh companies that do this kind of research hire people to sit there at the at the records office and take down all this this information and put it into their format so that they can put it on to their computer and and know that a given
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] neighborhood is at a given age group they they know a lot about you for the on that one transaction and they know roughly what your income is if you're affording a house of that size so they want to send you literature for vacations to whatever because you're in that bracket
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and marketing is uh seems to be the driving factor for most of these invasions of privacy as people call them so
[speaker002:] right yeah I guess the telephone solicitation is the one that comes to my mind
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] to me that's uh it's inexcusable if you want to come and want my money come and convince me don't call me on the phone
[speaker001:] yeah that's true I I guess that's uh where the old answering machine comes into play just screen a hundred percent of your calls and you don't have that that problem
[speaker002:] yeah I just keep my phone number listed under a separate name and when someone calls for that name I know that they're soliciting and I just tell them no they got the wrong number
[speaker001:] yeah that's the way to do it yeah
[speaker002:] works pretty good
[speaker001:] well the other some of the other problems of course are are uh invasions that are more along the lines of theft where people have allowed their carbon copies of their uh cards to get a way from them the credit cards purchases and people will uh take those and maybe steal some something off that number or just use that that information as uh you you purchased this then you know at that time because that information is not always open to the public yeah you can't always get out and find every transaction that a person makes on their MasterCard of Visa but uh a lot of of um credit references uh when you dial that in to find out well what's their latest rating uh that kind of information you don't always want everybody to know but uh it's going across uh computer lines and people can pick up what they want so
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and then there's the whole issue of of uh cellular telephones and and house portable phones uh people consider that an invasion of privacy to have uh someone listening in on their their phones and ironically the laws have has classified one of them as illegal to listen to and the other one not
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] so it's kind of a strange deal do you have a phone that uh
[speaker002:] no I don't have a cordless
[speaker001:] people cordless that people can listen in on I don't either but uh I I happen to have a radio that will pick up that range it it's very seldom that you can get uh you just happen to be within a couple of houses of that person and you have to listen at the exact right time and it's fairly staticky and on occasion you'll get two to three of them at once because the radios usually don't have the control that's needed to
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] screen them out and it's not the worlds most interesting thing to listen to but uh it it can be done relatively cheaply and I guess some people for lack of anything else to do do that kind of thing
[speaker002:] I guess a lot of the data that's being taken with you know the advent of the computer  a lot of the data that's being taken on everybody you know your social security number is tied to just everything about you and I think that
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] constitutes an invasion of privacy not so much the fact that the data is there but the way that it's being compiled and
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I think the government uses is quite a bit you know if they they want to do a check background check on you they've got you everything on you from the time you got that social security card
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] and to me that's an invasion of my privacy
[speaker001:] yeah it's kind of sad when they
[speaker002:] they know to where you've worked where you've been what you've done you know any any kind of
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] uh you know you name anything that's ever happened to you is going to be tied into either your social security number or your driver's license
[speaker001:] it's kind of sad that they choose that number to identify you with because there's very few you know some people use it just because it's easy and it's unique and then some people use it to yeah you can now identify that person it's not quite so private anymore and uh I don't know I very little of the information I give out really bothers me but as far as whether I care if anybody else had it but uh I guess the idea that if you ever let it become a an all right thing to do for the masses then you'll never be able to get that privilege back once gone it's going to be gone forever
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] so well I think we've just about covered the topic I'm going to go ahead and let you go I got to get back to work here
[speaker002:] okay all righty bye
[speaker001:] talk to you later maybe bye