[speaker001:] All right, so, we started recording already?
[speaker002:] Uh, I guess, [LAUGHTER] I don't know. It's the first time I've made a phone call on it.
[speaker001:] Oh, so you pressed one?
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] Okay. So, I guess we're supposed to start talking. Uh [NOISE], what kind of books do you read?
[speaker002:] I read, uh, a lot of Steven King, Dean R Koontz, uh
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] some Danielle Steel. My aunt got me hooked on those [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] So I,
[speaker001:] So it's mostly all novels?
[speaker002:] Yeah, they're all novels.
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] I'll read some, uh, classic, too.
[speaker001:] Oh, like what?
[speaker002:] Uh, [breathing] like THE GRADUATE by Steinbeck. I'll, uh,
[speaker001:] Yeah, I like that. I like Steinbeck a lot.
[speaker002:] A, A ROSE FAMILY by Faulkner. That's one of my favorites.
[speaker001:] I have never read a lot of Faulkner.
[speaker002:] Oh, and this, this is more of a play or something that, that it was from, that, that I saw and I read the book from that.
[speaker001:] Oh, cool [NOISE].
[speaker002:] And, by the way, my name's Bill. I'm from North Carolina [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] I'm Doug, I'm from Pennsylvania.
[speaker002:] Uh, I, [lipsmack] let's see. What kind of books do you like to read?
[speaker001:] Uh, well, a bunch of stuff, I guess, uh, fair number of novels, but mostly shorter ones. And, like, I don't really like the, you know, six hundred page long Stephen King novels and all that.
[speaker002:] I really have to be in the mood.
[speaker001:] Right?
[speaker002:] I, I read one, like maybe once a year.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] I'm not as,
[speaker001:] No, like, I like, say, uh, Richard Broudigan a lot. Uh,
[speaker002:] I've never read anything by him.
[speaker001:] Okay. He's, uh, he's dead now, but he was really a pretty amazing writer. He wrote books that were, like, pretty short and pretty easy to read, you know, like written at a third grade level or whatever.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But they were still very heavy and philosophical, also very funny. Like, He wrote TROUT FISHING IN AMERICA.
[speaker002:] Okay.
[speaker001:] So that's, anyway, and, uh, I read a lot of non fiction books, too. Uh, let's see,
[speaker002:] I like to read a lot of non fiction history when
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Civil War era and, and that kind of thing.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I found that real interesting. I'm reading THE LION AND THE WIND right now. And that was on T V.
[speaker001:] Now what's that?
[speaker002:] It was, uh, [lipsmack] [static] during Teddy Roosevelt's time.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] And, uh, about a American woman that got kidnapped in, uh, [NOISE] Morocco.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Uh, this is when they were having their revolution
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] or whatever and Teddy Roosevelt sent troops over and really portrays him as a, [static] kind of a crazy man, you know.
[speaker001:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [Breathing] Surprised me. I had no idea that he was like that.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. What, how crazy?
[speaker002:] Well, just like s-, some, one quote that he had was that he thought the America's emblem was stupid because it was an eagle,
[speaker001:] [Breathing].
[speaker002:] and it should be a grizzly bear because
[speaker001:] Oh, sh-, [breathing].
[speaker002:] you, you know, like the t-, t-, grizzly and stuff like that. So it's, I saw the movie and that's what made me want to read the book.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] Candice Bergen was in the movie. I'm a real big fan of hers so,
[speaker001:] Yeah. Cool, see, I also read a lot of books about music because I'm interested in that and fair number of stuff about science and also philosophy things.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh. I like, I like to read
[speaker001:] Like,
[speaker002:] some of the philosophy stuff.
[speaker001:] [Music] Uh-huh. Like, let's see, and even like reading some new age things, things that I don't quite believe in, like here on my shelf I have a book called JOURNEYS OUT OF THE BODY.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I think that,
[speaker001:] It's all about
[speaker002:] I'm fascinated by that.
[speaker001:] how to have out of body experiences and all that.
[speaker002:] Yeah, I'm fascinated by that.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, [breathing] yep.
[speaker002:] That, and, and, uh, even stuff about, not like ghost stories, but real encounters with ghosts and
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] supposedly haunted houses. I like, I'm kind of a doubting Thomas and I like to read stuff like that. Some of it really
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] freaks me out [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Uh-huh [breathing]. Right, [NOISE] definitely [pause]. Uh,
[speaker002:] And I like to read, uh, [breathing] I like to read some self help books like, uh, I read DIANETICS once, once I got past all the gibberish on it.
[speaker001:] Uh, did you like it?
[speaker002:] It was okay. It, it, it, it took me a while to really get into it. It, it didn't help me that much [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. I see.
[speaker002:] But, uh, I think once you're set in your ways, you're set in your ways.
[speaker001:] Yeah [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Uh, then I, one in-, real interesting book I read recently was, when I was looking for a job, I read, HOW TO GET THE JOB THAT YOU WANTED and, it, it had real good tips and it, and
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I got the [LAUGHTER] job that I wanted by applying the, the methods that, that,