[speaker002:] I don't know what you drive now I mean what do you drive now
[speaker001:] uh I have a Ford pickup and uh the family car is a uh a Dodge uh Caravan and uh because we have three kids and they're under thirteen
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] so um
[speaker002:] throw them in the back
[speaker001:] they sort of fit our requirement yeah I have a one of those uh pickups with the uh
[speaker002:] cap
[speaker001:] seat with a seat in the back
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] and so they just fit in there when they get to be teenagers with long legs it may not work but right now I can right now I can throw them all in the back when we have room and uh
[speaker002:] there you go
[speaker001:] and since I do a lot of projects I throw things in the back and I kind of like having a pickup truck actually I think of it as a as a car that'll last
[speaker002:] yeah you're right yeah I know
[speaker001:] I I like the way trucks are built and I don't care about comfort so I'm pretty happy
[speaker002:] yeah you're looking at I got a Toyota Four Runner I wanted a truck that I I wanted something that I could throw people in the back too so I got a Four Runner
[speaker001:] yeah so I wouldn't hesitate to get another one I I never buy new so I wouldn't hesitate to get another used truck
[speaker002:] you're just like me I've never bought a new vehicle in my life
[speaker001:] and uh yeah I don't I don't I don't need to pay for the glitz I'll let somebody else uh have the showroom shine enough and I'll pay for the rest of it
[speaker002:] no  let somebody else break it in right
[speaker001:] right and uh the van we're sort sort of we might go again on a on a van uh we we could probably do with a a something just a little bit larger than a compact in a sedan next time I'm not sure
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] we have to we we'll have to face it in a couple of years but uh I I guess we had a small Toyota wagon
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and we were real happy with that because uh my my second requirement after price is uh low maintenance and uh
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that it certainly had that we didn't do much to it at all
[speaker002:] so yeah my my the pretty much the same I I got a like I said I got one of those Toyota Four Runners
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh it pretty much does everything I need it to I mean it it'll tow three thousand pounds so I can tow everything and it I can throw I've had eleven people in it before
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] believe it or not and uh it's real reliable believe I I mean I've had it for almost four years now and up until oh say two weeks ago it had never had anything wrong with it
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and then of course two weeks ago it decided I don't know it's the strangest weirdest thing in the world but it blew a head gasket
[speaker001:] uh-oh
[speaker002:] didn't do any damage to it um I caught it real early
[speaker001:] uh-huh at how many at how many miles
[speaker002:] um oh ninety seven thousand so it's not real early
[speaker001:] huh and you didn't overheat it
[speaker002:] no never overheated it I smell I smelled the uh I smelled the coolant
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] went out and looked saw it was coming saw where it was coming from drove it right to the shop and left it off
[speaker001:] huh well that was minimum
[speaker002:] and that was it because I I have that and then I have a a Kawasaki motorcycle
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] which is actually the usually my preferred mode of transportation if I can take it and it's not raining
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I mean that's that's sort of my hobby though more than a vehicle it it's a I don't know people who buy motorcycles for transportation I think are kidding themselves
[speaker001:] I have one colleague that uh commutes to work on one when it's not raining and uh uh he's a it's he's pretty conservative guy I don't think it's much of a sport for him I guess uh
[speaker002:] I know but I bet you he really enjoys riding it
[speaker001:] I'm sure he does yeah
[speaker002:] yeah so you know you how when was the last time you took out took your truck out just to just to go driving
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] no and I go out twice a week on the bike so at least just for the enjoyment
[speaker001:] yeah it's like  yeah
[speaker002:] but yeah I I mean the only thing I think I might get in a new car or not necessarily a new car but a another car um I would consider going to a a non to a normal pickup rather than a a covered pickup like the one I got just because there's a lot of times I wished I had the uh just an open bed to throw stuff in
[speaker001:] right yeah
[speaker002:] I'm sure I'm sure that that's very I mean you got one it's that's really convenient just be able to throw that sort of stuff in the back and
[speaker001:] if I only had some place that I could store the uh camper top I would have it off most of the time
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I really leave it on there just for just to have it out of the way because it put it on the ground it gets dirty
[speaker002:] and to have have it out of the way right
[speaker001:] but uh yeah they're solid uh trucks are built uh I mean
[speaker002:] I think they last a lot longer than anything else
[speaker001:] they're the only things Americans still know how to build and uh
[speaker002:] yeah yeah the trucks do um even though you know the Jap the little Jap trucks are are good there too but so are the though I think the Chevys I don't think the Chevy I don't like the Chevys as much as I like the Fords
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I think they I think the Fords tend to last a little longer least until recently
[speaker001:] right I kind of like mine yeah so mine's a Ford and uh
[speaker002:] a friend of mine just bought or bought like a year ago it's it's a really a nice truck I mean I don't like Dodges at all but one of the Dodges they have out now has a uh the Cummins turbo diesel in it
[speaker001:] oh I heard about that yes
[speaker002:] ah it's beautiful that thing that thing will last forever I mean
[speaker001:] yeah that's the that's a serious truck
[speaker002:] oh yeah that thing's uh that it's got a boat engine in it
[speaker001:] right this uh I I know a contractor who just got one of those and he's pleased with it
[speaker002:] uh-huh