[speaker002:] uh are you a TIer
[speaker001:] no
[speaker002:] okay well we might have a difference uh to talk about on clothing uh
[speaker001:] you sound like some guy I talked to yesterday
[speaker002:] what
[speaker001:] you sound like the same person I talked to yesterday
[speaker002:] I am how come we got the same conversation subject
[speaker001:] I don't know
[speaker002:] okay I was amazed that they had the same subject on clothing too I never have had that before I noticed it on the weekends occasionally when I call
[speaker001:] well so was I
[speaker002:] and how could they possibly get the same person that's ridiculous
[speaker001:] okay well have your opinions changed in the last twenty four hours
[speaker002:] no no they sure haven't what other aspects I'm I I'm this is funny you know uh clothing let's see
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] I was curious you know if they just want to talk about the words of uh related to clothing that polyester was coming back have you heard that uh I saw it on the TV that the models were
[speaker001:] no ooh gross
[speaker002:] they had a new kind of polyester uh whether that they just like to switch materials uh periodically I don't know we might I haven't we didn't talk about materials I I prefer you know the cotton with very little in fact when I look for
[speaker001:] oh definitely
[speaker002:] uh I I try to go for the cottons and I don't know that polyester will although men's shirts are half-and-half or sixty forty or whatever
[speaker001:] I mean polyester especially in this climate polyester just doesn't work too well
[speaker002:] yeah I uh I'm originally from the east and I we used to wear sweaters and things and sweaters are
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] this isn't necessarily sweater country uh you know I I guess they're not as popular as they were I don't know about how women if you do you have problems with air-conditioning or were you you were uh uh is that a factor
[speaker001:] yeah it's always yeah it seems like it's always cold inside and part of my problem is that I'm in and out a lot because
[speaker002:] that's very bad yeah
[speaker001:] yeah we've got a lot of buildings downtown and I have to go to a lot of meetings in different buildings and so I'm in and out of the air-conditioning and you know like I said we have to wear suits and that's
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know it it gets to be quite uncomfortable at times
[speaker002:] at TI I am too in and out and well of course we don't wear ties and jackets certainly not in this kind of weather the the jackets they don't disappear but they you know they're they're on a hook usually the vice president's or the manager's and again I used to wear them but I don't I don't bother with it right now yeah that is a problem uh where did I see an article about where they're about that subject where they're trying to have oh I know it was lunchrooms where they're trying to encourage people to stay at work and so that's why they even downtown this might be applicable
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] where they're trying to have restaurants within walking distance but at the same time in other words you go down in a subway or whatever
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and go to lunch and they say that's so much more healthy for you than going out in the street in the open traffic and going to lunch you'd be better of
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] I'm sure maybe you do have some tunnels down there
[speaker001:] oh definitely yeah I mean
[speaker002:] and they they say that's so much more healthy for you to you know when you have to go out or go to lunch or whatever it's to to walk or however and get to a place that is uh you don't have to go in and out of the of the temperature
[speaker001:] I haven't heard that
[speaker002:] whether that affects how you dress I can imagine uh
[speaker001:] the last thing I heard about fashion I think I mentioned it yesterday was that wide ties were coming back
[speaker002:] right yeah I uh
[speaker001:] I don't know I think I always run a little bit behind It takes me awhile to get used to
[speaker002:] well I I'm for colorful things and I sure I I do enjoy the uh the newer products along those lines what do you think about women and wearing slacks and all that we haven't talked about that
[speaker001:] oh I wouldn't wear slacks to work
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] um people don't where I work I mean it's just not done
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] at all but now I have worked places where they do and even then I still didn't
[speaker002:] do you have children I might comment on teenagers how they dress
[speaker001:] I don't have a teenager I have a six year old and he's still
[speaker002:] oh you have a lot to experience I have two
[speaker001:] he's still at the age where I can dress him how I want to
[speaker002:] right well have the opposite then I have uh well one of they're almost now teenagers at one twenty almost twenty and one almost sixteen and I learned early on being surrounded by women here that the I I love to take them shopping but I don't pick anything out you know I I just kind of influence but uh the the teen the junior high teenagers really
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I don't know if you can describe how they dress you know you you
[speaker001:] well I have a girlfriend who has a daughter that's a teenager and every year before school starts she has me take her shopping for clothes because they fight too much
[speaker002:] I I know what angle that we can talk about here we they want us to talk about clothes around work but uh the way kids in school should dress and I'll give you my opinion I don't think that the school should just kind of let the kids dress what is the current style not that it's totally ridiculous of course but
[speaker001:] well I just read something in fact I think it was today about how the public a lot of private or a lot of the public schools now are going to uniforms
[speaker002:] public schools oh I didn't hear that yet
[speaker001:] yeah because uh they feel like there's too much competition in the clothing and it it clearly defines you know class lines in where you know the the Guess jeans and the you know stuff as opposed to the people who can't and so it takes people's concentration the thought behind it is that people won't concentrate or worry about what they're wearing what everybody else is wearing and it will take their mind off that and you know enable them to you know study better plus they say
[speaker002:] right well well whoever said that in my opinion doesn't have any teenagers who didn't grow they won't do that they'll never pass it that will be like
[speaker001:] this was they weren't talking about it wasn't talking about actually I I kind of like that idea and I had my son in private school where they do wear uniforms and uh I I really like that
[speaker002:] right uh-huh I can uh of course I went to school you know a hundred years ago in college and uh we did wear ties and jackets and this was they have since changed it was an engineering school a city it was in an downtown area like I don't know well you can't compare anything around here to the school in like no UTA here is in Arlington it's not exactly downtown but I guess like that and they just historically since it was in the city they wanted us to wear jackets and ties and I did my whole college career which is I guess terribly unusual
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] we wore jackets and ties for four years and I so subsequently I wanted to get a masters degree in in after I got out of the service and uh they changed drafts so there was a
[speaker001:] that is yeah
[speaker002:] the styles have certainly changed to where I guess my campus now looks like typical uh college campus I guess
[speaker001:] yeah I think well I think for a while kids were dressing nicer in colleges but um nowadays uh I I still I take classes at UTD and they um you know they wear jeans and sometimes they don't even have shoes on
[speaker002:] huh the older I get the more more open to other people's ideas uh you cannot be you have to let them come out with uh whatever they not whatever but some of their ideas too and so you kind of back off and see what people and I know their clothing is changing you know all the time and I'm I'm certainly open
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] to how you should dress uh now of course the subject is work uh or clothes really I guess
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh and the only again the one thing I am at at work is is certainly a professional look but I'm not saying that that will not change the professional look will look differently from year to year perhaps
[speaker001:] do you spend a lot of money on clothes for work
[speaker002:] no I really don't it's uh uh go through a lot of shirts and think no I don't really
[speaker001:] you know I think and and this may be totally unfair and unfounded but it seems to me like women have to spend more money on clothes for work then men do because men can have a few suits and you know a bunch of different shirts and some different ties but you know women practically have to have you know a whole bunch of different suits
[speaker002:] uh-huh right well you're sure right there because not even when I wore a jacket and a lot of the guys when I was up at Spring Creek in uh Plano uh we think he just brought the same jacket even that wasn't a that's not a black mark against the man and you're right that uh women are expected to look more everything matches I guess
[speaker001:] yeah and then of course you know accessories you know shoes and hose and earrings and you know all that stuff
[speaker002:] right right right
[speaker001:] um it's just I it's outrageous you know because you know you still spend two three hundred dollars on a suit
[speaker002:] your work without saying much about it do they ever bring the subject up of asking your opinion on on whether you want things to change on how you dress or
[speaker001:] no I ultimate leave and I haven't been at work in awhile so I I don't really know
[speaker002:] are the ties oh
[speaker001:] you know from what I I went to a concert earlier this week and saw some people and just noticed how there's a lot of the wider ties
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but they're not they're not the same as the wide
[speaker002:] right uh-huh uh TI has several locations different sites have a little bit different dress dress like I said at Spring Creek it was definitely more formal I think because it was newer and uh type and many many more people wore there was very there was very few production areas
[speaker001:] do you think it has anything to do with the ages of people
[speaker002:] uh that