[speaker001:] okay um what do you consider an invasion of privacy
[speaker002:] um I was just now told that's what the topic was and um I guess invasion of privacy uh to me for example would be unauthorized use of credit cards
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] for example and uh I guess recently one of the TV stations here uh ran a series of uh news casts on unauthorized credit card usage and how easy it was to get a person's credit card numbers
[speaker001:] that's very easy
[speaker002:] and use it and I was quite surprised at that I guess I can consider myself fortunate that uh it never happened to me I don't know what I'd really do if it did
[speaker001:] no I've never I've never had that happen to me either what do you think about for instance like I was in Michael's the other night and charged something and they asked for my home phone even though you know the charge had been approved what do you think of that
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] does it bother you to give it
[speaker002:] no not really because I'm listed in the phone book if I was the type of individual that uh had an unlisted number I I think I would be hesitant to give it
[speaker001:] you know that they they now have a uh I believe it's a federal law that you do not have to give your phone number on a charge ticket
[speaker002:] one of the things that upset me when I lived in California was uh they did a lot of things with your Social Security number
[speaker001:] security number um-hum
[speaker002:] as a matter of fact they even went to the point of printing your Social Security number on your driver's license
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] and they would not cash checks unless they had your Social Security number so we had our Social Security numbers imprinted on our checks
[speaker001:] um um-hum
[speaker002:] and I was really you know unhappy about that situation I think that was an invasion of privacy
[speaker001:] privacy yes yes I can see you know where that was I I don't mind my phone number and address or work phone being given you know when I have to cash a check I don't see any need for it when I'm charging something but I neither am I a person that has the guts to say no I'm not going to give it to you either you know and uh
[speaker002:] right one of the biggest things I think that's going on in this country right now is the selling of uh mail lists and things like that
[speaker001:] yes yes
[speaker002:] you know uh recently we uh I purchased some magazines US News
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and Forbes magazine
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and every since that day I have been inundated with you know uh subscriptions to this subscriptions to that uh this news letter this investment letter uh even to the point of people calling me at home and prior to me ordering these magazines I never got those kind of calls
[speaker001:] right right I discovered with uh charge cards um
[speaker002:] and
[speaker001:] I feel like that I don't know whether it's the stores themselves that sell the list or whether the uh uh credit report bureau sells it but I get catalogs from people I've never even heard of and I know they have to be coming from my charge cards you know
[speaker002:] um-hum from some some list yeah
[speaker001:] from from some list you know that knows that I have a say a charge account at at Neiman's or something because then I'll get catalogs that you know are within that range that I would never order from ordinarily and um
[speaker002:] um-hum right
[speaker001:] you know and I get I get tired of that I because I look at all that junk mail and I think of how inept our post office is and how that's taking up you know all their time to sort and they're not even paying full postage
[speaker002:] all their time sure
[speaker001:] you know and if you did away with some of that our postal service might give better service
[speaker002:] I think the general public would be you know uh tremendously upset if they knew how easy it is for uh let's say the criminal individuals to to get access to people's records um their credit cards driver's licenses checks things like that
[speaker001:] right um-hum
[speaker002:] um I don't think anybody really knows what to do about it
[speaker001:] no no um
[speaker002:] computers ha caused a lot of this I'm sure
[speaker001:] well you know let's face it computers can be gotten into very easily if you if you really have the the know with all if you're you know so inclined to uh oh what do I want to say have the smarts to be able to tinker with something like that you know and have a basic knowledge they're very easy to get into
[speaker002:] sure seems as though they are yeah
[speaker001:] to tap into a system uh-huh you know and uh which is scary I mean you know our lives are on computers
[speaker002:] unfortunately
[speaker001:] yeah and uh and I don't know I kind of I resent the the calls of an evening trying to sell me something uh
[speaker002:] fortunately I haven't uh haven't uh been inundated with that situation yet
[speaker001:] we are constantly it seems like I don't know why you know either wanting to clean our carpet sell us storm windows