[speaker001:] well I think Don that maybe immigration is more of an issue in my part of the country than it is in yours do you suppose that's true
[speaker002:] well you're probably right up here in Rochester we uh
[speaker001:] but
[speaker002:] we don't have uh much controversy about immigration you know being on the Canadian border there's not a whole lot of people you know dying to come across and live here
[speaker001:] yeah maybe uh they have a problem
[speaker002:] sometimes I think they ought to
[speaker001:] yeah well of course we're quite a ways from the Mexican border here
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but uh oh you hear on the news and whatnot of uh some of the sad things associated with immigration like uh loading up a truck full of immigrants and it runs out of gas or something and they sit out in the bake in the sun because they're locked in the back of it and things like that
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] so there are a lot of tragedies I think associated with immigration
[speaker002:] yeah I think it's uh I think it's a real shame but on the other hand you know it kind of even with all the tragedies if you step back and look at it the fact that people want to come here must be that there's something better here than or at least they think there's something better here than there is uh wherever they're from
[speaker001:] yeah oh absolutely absolutely I I mean that the what I see is Mexico of course rather South American countries
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh unfortunately I think that that the immigrants tend to really stretch the social services that can be provided to the folks uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah yeah that's true but I think that's probably always been true throughout uh history of the United States uh I think anytime you have uh you know immigrants coming in who perhaps you know don't have the ability to communicate with a large percentage of the population that's already here I think they're bound to to push the social services a little bit do you think it's worse today than it was maybe fifty years ago
[speaker001:] uh yeah I think maybe it is I and I think that's not necessarily the fault of immigration but just the way the world is going to you know what in a hand basket anyway I think that there's so many other problems especially in the cities
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] uh crime for example and I uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh I don't know I think it's all tied up together I know that the immigrant immigrant of course now Dallas has a lot of uh
[speaker002:] yeah you're probably right
[speaker001:] Asian immigrants in fact a large community of them
[speaker002:] uh-huh okay
[speaker001:] and uh they have their special problems uh oh for example crime I mentioned crime against immigrants is is a severe problem because the people that came from the southeast Asian countries don't want to call the police
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] you know they they have fear of the police and whatnot
[speaker002:] that's right that's right it's really interesting to me because as as you as as you pointed out at the beginning here in Rochester uh now we don't have it immigration problem we don't even have a lot of immigration but on the other hand you know it's we do have uh a large influx of uh people from say Jamaica or other parts of the Caribbean that that's really you know and Puerto Rico we have a a large population from there people who have come over you know maybe in the last you know ten or twenty years
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] have moved here now why somebody from Jamaica want to would want to move to cold Rochester I'm a little uh I'm a little hard pressed to understand but they do it so so you know I don't blame them to each their own but you know if you look at at a place like Rochester now now we have a large population of like second and third generation Americans of people who came you know whose parents or grandparents came to uh the United States you know people from Italy uh people from Poland people from the Ukraine um
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and and I always you know I always wonder whether you know was the situation any different back then I mean how did the people who had been in the United States for for a while feel about this large amount of immigration uh it's fairly well known that at one of the major companies in Rochester who I won't say their name but I'm sure you've heard of them uh back in the thirties didn't want to hire the Italian immigrants because it it was it was a discriminatory practice
[speaker001:] huh yeah
[speaker002:] and uh you know it just makes me wonder you know and you know I look at what what made this country great and a lot of cases it was the immigrants who came over and worked and I and sometimes I wonder you know whether you know just how different is the situation today
[speaker001:] oh I think I think they want to work I think they're often under educated
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I think that's why maybe one reason why they have so much difficult in their own countries
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] uh I I have trouble with