[speaker001:] okay official time well what do you think of about the budget here you first
[speaker002:] oh well I think it needs some drastic uh drastic drastic help um
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] I I think there's a lot of waste that that could uh that would be cut out if we could get uh politicians to be less less of politicians um and um I I think it needs to be given a really high priority because I I think it has a horrible effect on the economy and and what we can do as a country and everything else
[speaker001:] I know that we're affected uh directly uh at TI because of uh the defense budget cuts but I certainly think that's one of the the things that they're doing already which is uh which which was needed to be done for probably the last few years uh
[speaker002:] sure right yeah
[speaker001:] although with the Russian situation and all the world situation changing the way it is uh it certainly needed I the obvious one that people all talk about that I still don't understand is uh I'm at work let me turn my radio off here uh is uh all the foreign aid I you know it's over it's a fifty years roughly since World War II
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] I don't understand why we're I understand that we support Israel and all the other countries but why do we have to give them cash rather than just selling them military things at a discount or something I don't get the idea the idea of giving people three billion dollars a year
[speaker002:] yeah right I I have a hard time with that too now I can understand uh for instance the uh the situation in say the Philippines where they needed some cash to jump start their economy
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but I don't see where we I mean I think it's crazy to be just pouring money into an economy that's obviously mismanaged for instance um
[speaker001:] right well I think that we should give humanitarian aid and that's it
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] you know I think we can loan food or or relief relief aid or whatever you want to call it but I
[speaker002:] yeah right
[speaker001:] not cash money I think you can send them wheat in other words I think that helps farmers but
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] to send them money I don't I don't
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] see under any circumstances where you send anybody money
[speaker002:] I'm not sure I understand the I I guess there's a a a reason for that and I I just don't know enough about it to understand the sense of it because it's not an obvious I I mean on the surface there's no obvious reason why we should be doing that
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I have to agree with you there
[speaker001:] I'm amazed that neither neither party or or the which I guess they're independent parties too why they don't talk about it I mean they don't bring it up at all why you would think they'd be real having a real campaign with one party or the other
[speaker002:] right yeah
[speaker001:] and they never talk about it they just keep doing it you know
[speaker002:] yeah that there's some kind of justification there and I don't know what it is and I don't know if I agree with it or not yeah
[speaker001:] I I just like to hear them talk about it you know I like to hear some of the congressmen or senators at least
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] say well let's let's bring this before let's examine every one of our foreign aids
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and look like like they did with the defense with the military bases they they investigated all those rightfully wrongly wrongfully whether which ones should be closed I don't know
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] at least they looked at it I think they should look at foreign aid and say hey which ones do we not need to give you know
[speaker002:] right well you know the the the other thing is that you have all this this this all this partisan politics where you have a person who's representing a particular state and he says well my my state it would advantageous if the if the United States spent money to uh you know to investigate uh potato blithe or something you know and that's and there is tons of that and
[speaker001:] right yeah I know that is amazing
[speaker002:] and that is just a horrible waste of money I think and it's and it's done because some constituent you know I well it's done because they want to impress the the people that are going to vote for him next month
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh if if there was a way to get around that and I think I think some of that could be avoided if we put uh uh a finite term on on some of these peoples um uh uh you know stay in office um
[speaker001:] oh I agree with you there
[speaker002:] I I think they would have they wouldn't have time to I mean they'd have to I think their incentive would be to go out uh or and making their mark on history and they wouldn't even be wasting their time on little piddly stuff that's just draining draining money uh instead they'd concentrate on doing something that was significant um I would hope so anyway
[speaker001:] yeah I saw one about a month or so ago on Twenty Twenty I think it was where one of the congressmen I think it was from Connecticut and I probably will will screw that up but
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] he wanted to start another drug headquarters in his state and no one was asking for it but him and he got the money approved got it approved by tagging it on to some other bill
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and it didn't you know the the newsman asked him what what no one is asking for this why do you you know and it was just totally a boondoggle I mean it was just uh him wanting to build something that nobody wanted
[speaker002:] yeah sure right well that's that's you know that's the catch word these days is drug you know drug fight drug
[speaker001:] right right
[speaker002:] I mean he got himself
[speaker001:] but the drug agency wasn't asking for it he was asking for it you know which didn't make any sense at all
[speaker002:] yeah I don't know he it looked can look good on his resume resume
[speaker001:] right it is amazing how the the congressmen and senators just start are totally in another world once they get elected
[speaker002:] yeah yeah oh yeah and well you know it's like I've I've really gotten cynical I guess as I've gotten older but I've I've been watching you know the the campaigns and stuff and it's it just it's just amazing how little anybody really says
[speaker001:] right or well duh I thought you were going to say what they do
[speaker002:] oh that too
[speaker001:] I I've been trying to go over in my own mind when they say we're gonna really if you vote for me we're gonna control crime and drugs they don't do anything nothing they don't have they had any president or anybody every done anythin g against crime and drugs you know
[speaker002:] right right well no no I mean and because it's you know and it's because nothing is black and white
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know you just can't go up and go up there and say well we're going to we're going to stop crime now
[speaker001:] right yeah exactly
[speaker002:] if it were that simple somebody would have done it a long time ago
[speaker001:] right exactly
[speaker002:] and that's what kind you know they there's the people that says well we'll we'll never raise taxes or we will raise taxes or you know it's like the guy who says you're never going to raise taxes doesn't isn't realistic about what he sees about what he's doing the guy who says well we should raise taxes
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] will raise them but but it will all it the money will not help anything that's what kills me um you know the for instance here here in Texas they're talking about uh an income tax well I could almost support an income tax if they reduced or got rid of the sales tax
[speaker001:] right yeah you can't double up yeah
[speaker002:] but nobody's talking about that they want both you know no I know and they never go away they just get higher and there's more of them you know
[speaker001:] exactly exactly they never go away the the funniest thing I heard lately about politicians uh joke was uh uh do you know how you can tell it when a politician is lying his lips are moving
[speaker002:] yeah my favorite yeah yeah yeah my favorite one about politicians is that a politician's a person who's made it to the top because he didn't have what it takes to make it at the bottom
[speaker001:] that that that that see that covers is all you know right yeah but it it is the budget thing is just and I don't know why they don't talk about it logically it's always always uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] again the only thing I guess they're doing logically now is the defense which is certainly hurting TI to a degree although we've done so well with the
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] Gulf War we got a lot of good positive press with all the exotic uh weapon systems and I think we'll get a lot of those you know but uh
[speaker002:] right yeah
[speaker001:] uh you you need to close so many bases and you need to cut out some missiles or I mean some uh programs and all
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] uh and they're doing that I think that's that's really good even though it it hurts a lot bit you know
[speaker002:] well yeah the the problem is that the budget is so complicated and what they're doing are the things that are easy they're making the easy choices
[speaker001:] well then that's probably true
[speaker002:] and and uh um and it's and I think part of it is that the budget you know the the economy and the budget is too complicated for a lot of the politicians I mean they can't comprehend um you know what it takes what it needs they just don't have the expertise the other thing is they can't it's too
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh it's not in their political career interest to make some of the hard decisions that are going to need to be made
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] uh and so what you do is you do the obvious things you know and and they they don't really help all that much I mean sure they help some and I'm sure
[speaker001:] right I don't go ahead I was going to say I know you mentioned it but I don't know why we can't change the laws where there the congress and the senators just have eight years or or terms because the president has it
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and I think that uh is you know you don't want someone in there forever
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and the congressmen go in there forever and that's that's their whole life then
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] and their family's life and every one of their relatives gets on it has got a job you know it's ridiculous
[speaker002:] yeah well uh you know I think uh it's got to come from the you know it's it's got to be you know there certainly the politicians aren't going to introduce that as a bill so so so you know if something like that's going to happen it's usually because somebody's
[speaker001:] right there you go there you go
[speaker002:] you know somebody has gotten angry enough and has got the time an the energy to to you know have to to develop something from the from the you know ground swell level you know where you get a petition up and you you know get signatures and you call for a referendum and it's not easy it's not easy
[speaker001:] no that's true maybe that long-term though I think that is a a factor that is to keep the our government uh rotating you know keep them moving uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and not get the career politicians huh
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] yeah there's uh historians I thought that keep saying will that that never was meant that the politicians would make a career it was just something that you would serve like in the military
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and then you'd be done you know
[speaker002:] that's right well you know it and and what was supposed to be uh so healthy about our our former government is that these were regular people who were who you know these were the doctors and the lawyers and the accountants and the janitors and the uh who were in there for their brief period of time to do their to to to serve proudly and
[speaker001:] right right right right right