[speaker002:] okay what do you read
[speaker001:] uh well I read everything uh I guess uh what
[speaker002:] what's your favorite
[speaker001:] uh well I like all kinds of in fact I was just reading uh a magazine now an automobile magazine uh I like historical uh books Time magazine newspaper how to how to do it type things uh
[speaker002:] oh I'm not much into magazines I do read them I like
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] Good Housekeeping and stuff like that I'll get ideas out for my own house and yard and stuff main thing I like Pierce Anthony I love Pierce Anthony novels
[speaker001:] um-hum oh no yeah no I'm not into soap soaps and all that stuff I'm uh not into novels at all really other other than historical things uh uh I'm kind of a a chore person I like to do I'm again I'm I'm fix it person I I read all those kind of things
[speaker002:] figures what like those uh magazines you get through the mail
[speaker001:] yeah I'll buy car magazines course I'm an engineer I read the engineering magazines and the money magazines and uh
[speaker002:] I
[speaker001:] well I am reading historical uh not not a novel but historical book now about uh uh Russia before uh the the Czar not before the Czar during the Czar's time and what it was like and everything
[speaker002:] uh-huh what about like those Time books that they put out about uh uh oh ancient discoveries you know the how they found out like that uh ancient man performed performed uh brain surgery successfully stuff like that uh-huh
[speaker001:] oh you mean the ancient astronauts things I've read some of that I I didn't quite some of that is uh it is very interesting without question I I don't really know that they have the answers in those books that they they make conclusions in them that may or may not be
[speaker002:] uh-huh yes oh uh-huh
[speaker001:] true but they're very interesting that that they've what they've discovered
[speaker002:] oh I like far out facts or whatever I like to read stuff like that but I'm a
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] superficial buff I can't think if they I just superficial I like I like it if it's fun I don't get too into it yeah
[speaker001:] you are what kind of buff oh okay oh yeah right well I'm kind of a a hobbyist so I I read all those things that uh and being an engineer all those books that would bore everybody else you know how to do things
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah well
[speaker001:] I'm one of those crazy people that reads the directions it always make my wife mad I
[speaker002:] because you read it
[speaker001:] when she ever there's something I say well have you read the directions no I hate reading the directions I say well engineers we we are the few people in the world that read the directions yeah
[speaker002:] you're an engineer are you an engineer for TI
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] okay uh I worked at TI for a little while
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh we've got a book that says uh How Do They Do That and it answers everything
[speaker001:] yeah oh really
[speaker002:] yeah and I'll read well not everything but a lot of silly little questions
[speaker001:] oh yeah that
[speaker002:] like what makes a firefly light you know
[speaker001:] oh yeah those are oh interesting oh you like science things uh I haven't gotten them in a long time what is that uh one that's on TV that book uh National Geographic is really a fascinating book uh uh if you ever get those or even
[speaker002:] now yeah uh-huh well that don't
[speaker001:] but I haven't gotten them in years uh they they were kind of expensive I know people just collect them like they're
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh they have wonderful pictures photographs and just amazing photographs that they've done
[speaker002:] yeah we used my little sister was blind and going to school and she would have to come home and I cut out different she wasn't fully blind just legally blind
[speaker001:] um um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] but she would have to cut out different colors and that is the best book to go through those National Geographics
[speaker001:] it is it is they they they uh the photographers just got fantastic fantastic pictures in those things uh
[speaker002:] they're great well now I do like National Geographic and stuff because I like I said I like reading about I don't know animals I love reading about animals
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] the gorillas and stuff and the sloth it fascinates me
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] that's something moves that slow
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] and it's just weird
[speaker001:] you know I haven't uh of course it was it all books and things or was it anything say anything but newspapers I've forgotten what the question was exactly but uh what do you read I guess in general or
[speaker002:] oh well yeah well we can talk about anything we want
[speaker001:] yeah uh I I glance at all newspapers I do like uh since the read since the economy is doing so bad I never have read the uh uh financial pages more often than now you know and trying to analyze and look for some good news in in there you know uh to see if the
[speaker002:] well for me there's no immediate well what you know the financial page doesn't hit me directly which I'm sure it does if I get into it but like I said I don't keep up on all that
[speaker001:] well I've only been more interested because of things are doing so bad and everything I thought well uh see if there's anything in there that uh
[speaker002:] yeah the
[speaker001:] uh would be see positive you know you always look for things with this with this terrible recession that we're in uh to see if there's any good
[speaker002:] yeah with everything going down
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah it's uh hopefully uh we'll recover here uh
[speaker002:] yeah I know I heard Bush say that you know we're either bottoming out or seem to be
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but that's Bush saying it
[speaker001:] yeah right and he he yeah I know I don't really know if uh any one person knows uh uh what some of the problems are uh but there're there're some there're some interesting things in the paper really
[speaker002:] yeah well I like Ann Landers
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] no  I like getting the paper and reading the want ads and just I do skim over it
[speaker001:] it
[speaker002:] but mainly I'm a front page person I don't go into the details
[speaker001:] yeah no I glance at it I I with with the uh so much uh you sound like you have a family too but with a family and everything there's just so much going on that I uh actually I'm more of a radio not more of a radio buff but uh it's easier to do when I do some chores or yard work or anything put the radio on and listen to that and
[speaker002:] well I know at TI they have most of the stuff on the printout don't they I mean on the computer where you can read the daily news
[speaker001:] oh yeah I do every time I come in uh I'll punch up but they call it T News and all that I I do get uh it gets a little bit of everything even the the last page is uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] is sport uh listings and and different things uh and world news you know about
[speaker002:] uh-huh now when I worked
[speaker001:] you can read it in one minute you know
[speaker002:] huh when I worked at TI I read that more than I read the regular newspaper
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] because I would read that every day because you'd find ten minutes here that you don't have anything to do I know you do being an engineer
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] there are sometimes when you've got ten or fifteen or even an hour off
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] not much not in the area I worked in we had an engineer in there every ten minutes
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] oh yeah it it's it is uh interesting uh with the computer to read the computer news and all that I I guess that's uh that that is a source of reading I hadn't thought about that in that respect uh
[speaker002:] yeah well it just encouraged me to read it
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah it it does have a good uh simple uh you know again you can read it in uh a lot less than ten minutes it's usually you can you you can page through
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker001:] I don't read everything on some of the stuff's pretty boring I I skip over some of that but uh
[speaker002:] uh it is well see that's me with the newspaper especially financial page
[speaker001:] yeah yeah yeah well
[speaker002:] I don't uh I read it so less and I watch so little TV I didn't even know what the deal was with this uh oh I I can't remember his name now him and his wife are getting divorced and he's a tycoon or something what is his name
[speaker001:] oh yeah uh uh Trump Donald Trump yeah
[speaker002:] yeah Trump I didn't even know I still don't know what the whole deal was with that
[speaker001:] well I guess because he was so rich you know when you're that rich uh you always get into the paper whatever if you have a family problem whatever well he had a young girlfriend he was he's well into his forties and I guess he got a young girlfriend who uh and uh and then every every time you take you you are that rich you just get uh in the the in the news immediately immediately you know
[speaker002:] yeah immediately so that's all it was he was just having an affair on his wife
[speaker001:] uh which is tough well that and uh his business is going down the tubes so bad you know
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] he was uh uh essentially like you said a tycoon uh Donald Trump and had it all he was high roller for about ten years and then he is now essentially bankrupt you know
[speaker002:] oh that's got to be hard to go from really rich to poor
[speaker001:] and so uh he yeah yeah
[speaker002:] which I'm sure he ain't poor
[speaker001:] no right uh who knows uh what he's really got but uh he was kind of an arrogant arrogant guy so I think the newsmen uh enjoyed uh writing about him on his way down you know
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and his wife was very uh uh seemed to be very smart and actually running some of his business it was uh she was actually somewhat of a business partner of his uh did very well
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] Ivana Trump uh oh they they've been on all the news and everything in the in the papers and uh on Barbara Walters and everything else
[speaker002:] well see that's what I said I like I don't watch much TV anymore either
[speaker001:] hum
[speaker002:] but I've got three kids so it's hard to watch TV except for Donald Duck
[speaker001:] oh yeah I can imagine right  uh uh I know what you mean really uh
[speaker002:] well I've enjoyed talking to you
[speaker001:] okay yeah well uh hang in there and good luck with those kids
[speaker002:] yeah and have a good holiday bye-bye
[speaker001:] right bye-bye