[speaker001:] so what do you what's your opinion on the our policy down there
[speaker002:] I don't think we have one yeah I was going to say it's kind of hard to have have an opinion we seem to uh whoever screams the loudest
[speaker001:] I didn't know we had one either yeah
[speaker002:] or whoever we happen to give the most money to at that particular time we seem to support without regard whether there is a democracy or a anarchy or anything else
[speaker001:] I yeah the only thing that I pretty much know about is the Central American policy where you know they're just trying to you know military action in Panama is the only thing that comes to my mind right now and then
[speaker002:] well oh yeah and then of course there was there was the uh in Columbia with the drug lords but we just
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] talked a lot we didn't actually do anything
[speaker001:] right well that's that's what I was about to say we didn't do anything
[speaker002:] I'm actually surprised at anything in Central America along with Panama I'm just kind of surprised we did that
[speaker001:] yeah that is that is pretty risky
[speaker002:] especially after our friend Jimmy Carter gave it away anyway
[speaker001:] I mean uh-huh
[speaker002:] but I guess they had to finally do something actually Bush has been better at that than I thought
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] he has a little more a little more of a stand on policy than I thought he would I always considered him kind of a wimp
[speaker001:] he takes more risks
[speaker002:] yeah Reagan is kind of mush mush mouth
[speaker001:] yeah he was
[speaker002:] but but I guess most of the policy that we're using now is uh a combination of Reagan and Carter neither much as you know policy makers
[speaker001:] yeah it seems that the the policies of pretty much anywhere not just in Central America that US has now is is you know more action than just words than just rhetoric but you know I we we back up what we say what we say with actions
[speaker002:] uh yeah we have so far but we we really really haven't of course we really haven't taken on the drug lords yet
[speaker001:] I don't know how long it's going to last yeah
[speaker002:] I'd be interested to see if we do that
[speaker001:] well I don't think it's possible because even though you know we're against them I don't think we can go into another country and do something about the other country's problem
[speaker002:] well we did in Panama we did in Saudi Arabia
[speaker001:] yeah but no but see the thing when Panama was uh the that uh Noriega was uh was was uh was wanted for either the FBI by the FBI and therefore they had a reason but to go in and take out the whole drug kingdom would be something totally different
[speaker002:] it could be an interesting
[speaker001:] because
[speaker002:] interesting problem I
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] I don't know if they could do it or not did you read Tom Clancy's A Clear and Present Danger
[speaker001:] uh no I didn't
[speaker002:] I think you need to pick that up and read it it's quite uh it's it's quite interesting it addresses the problem
[speaker001:] oh the drug problem um-hum
[speaker002:] um-hum actually he he wrote that prior to the uh Medellin Medellin Cartel being exposed it was on the stands prior to that time it it's quite timely and either he knows somebody or he has a real good a real good imagination because its it hits pretty close to home
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but I don't think we're going to have much of a choice in either either Central or South America
[speaker001:] I don't think uh I don't think the the uh problem about drugs is going to be safe any time soon I mean you know it it I think it pretty much got sidetracked with uh with the Panama and and with the Central Central you know Middle East problems things that that are important take precedent precedence over the drugs I think I think I think the big thing is trying to stop here on the home front and before you know it it'll take a little bit of time before they'll realize that this is failing so they're going to have to go to the source
[speaker002:] um yeah I think we realize it's failed we just don't we just don't nobody wants to make the nobody wants to make the uh unpopular decision of going in and invading
[speaker001:] don't admit it yet right
[speaker002:] we still there's still there's there's still too many Kennedys and and Udalls all up there
[speaker001:] yep yeah that's true
[speaker002:] there's too many liberals in control they can't agree on anything and they have blinders on as far as the policy goes as long as somebody's getting killed as long as nobody knows about it it's okay but but the minute it hit hits the paper then of course the Kennedys and the and the Udalls the Dawes from Georgia all stand up and scream and yell about what a horrible thing it is
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] of course these are the same people that also drown the and stuff like that you know but I guess it automatic I guess it's automatic respective
[speaker001:] depends on how much power you have and who you know
[speaker002:] year you know the people have a right to know except about what it about what concerns them
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and these are the people that make the foreign policy and it it's probably basically uh I would not be surprised if the Kennedy Foundation or some of those don't have a lot of uh financial holdings in in Central and South America
[speaker001:] probably
[speaker002:] considering the Kennedys made all their money off bootleg whiskey anyway every time you drink Scotch you're paying Kennedys
[speaker001:] I don't drink Scotch
[speaker002:] good don't ever drink Scotch it's terrible I quit drinking Scotch when I found out about that but anyway but uh as far as as far as you know Central and South America we our policy pretty much uh it depends on who we're what government we're buying down there at the particular time
[speaker001:] yeah I think we're trying to stay uh stay friendly with uh the uh the Brazilian and and Argentinean governments because they're producing so much uh agricultural exports
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] we don't want to piss them off and have them over produce and then because then our economy would be pretty bad
[speaker002:] yeah although we do need to do something about you know of course in Nicaragua and around there with the Sandinistas and the Contras that's been going on for years but then hell it's probably still be going on long after we're dead it'll still be the same thing
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] those people down there don't really
[speaker001:] I think it's going to have to get worse before it gets better you know the same old cliche
[speaker002:] well I think basically they can't figure out what they want down there
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] if you give everybody what they wanted there is a complete democracy those people wouldn't know how to react because they have no education
[speaker001:] right and they'll just pick crooked people again and then people the the wrong people will just fight their way up to the top again and it'll all be for nothing
[speaker002:] it's all tradition it's all traditional they have to you have the ruling class and you have everybody else
[speaker001:] yeah well I guess that's about five minutes appreciate talking to you
[speaker002:] alrighty
[speaker001:] what was that book that you were saying to read again
[speaker002:] well talk to you later Tom Clancy it's called A Clear and Present Danger
[speaker001:] A Clear and Present Danger
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] all right
[speaker002:] he wrote he's the one who wrote uh Red October A Hunt for Red October
[speaker001:] okay all right
[speaker002:] and I think if if you read that I think you'll get a real kick out of it
[speaker001:] all right thanks a lot all right bye
[speaker002:] all right bye-bye