[speaker001:] well all right um I I guess I'll start um by mentioning that um being twenty four years old I had a great-grandmother who's still alive at this point who was just recently placed in a nursing home after the death of my great-grandfather and it was a real problem in doing that because uh she has Alzheimer's
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh she had no wish or desire to go into that kind of facility and uh we were very concerned about uh her long-term care my great-grandfather after he was found out he was going to go into a nursing home uh actually gave up the ghost more or less
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] and passed on only only about a week after that
[speaker002:] well my um my my grandmother is um had Alzheimer's and through the process we had to remove we tried to keep her at home at our we had to remove her from her home because she was getting paranoiac and tried to keep her at our home and did that as long as we could but again the process is very difficult even even you know I think that my parents did a good job at it when when they went through but it's not an easy thing when they've got Alzheimer's but my other grandparents um signed up for a retirement type thing in Pennsylvania um already my father's much older than my mother so well no I guess it anyway my grandparents my other grandparents are much younger and um they what they did is they sold their house and bought a house figuratively speaking in this retirement complex and they live in that house and there there there's minimal because they you know they bought it um they've kind of bought into the whole system and there's there's care given for the lawn and stuff
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and um as they get older more care can be given and there's some minimal fees that they'll always be paying but the basic fee for health care and all that is already taken care of and when they get too old they can move into an apartment instead it's like a duplex they have now
[speaker001:] yeah well
[speaker002:] they can move into an apartment and then later nursing
[speaker001:] we had yeah we had up here when they got into uh when my grandmother came over my great-grandmother came over here she actually spent sometime with us and we had to have a nurse come in
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] because we simply we couldn't handle it she kind of she'd lost all bearings as to where she was and she would actually wander around uh we were afraid she would wander herself into the basement and fall down the stairs or uh you know it was incredible because my great-grandfather had taken care of her and she demanded absolute twenty four hour care she had to be watched she had to be cleaned
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] everything you know it was a demeaning process for my for my grandfather great-grandfather we had never realized how much um how bad she had deteriorated over the uh years I mean I she would forget my name and she would forget you know how to cook or how to take care of herself but we didn't realize the extent until after my great-grandfather had a bad stroke and um um we had her here and we had to take care of her and it even kind of drove the nurse a little crazy
[speaker002:] yeah that's what happened to my other my grandmother my grandfather had died and she wanted to stay on and then she got Alzheimer's and it was a really hard thing for the whole family I'm much more appreciative of what my
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] my other set of grandparents has done and my parents have already um kind of like gone on a waiting list cause it's such a long thing because it preserves the dignity of the you know the whole situation and it's a decision that my parents have made and it won't be a drain on our resources because it'll mean just
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] um you know sell selling their house now and buying into that at the same time and it's familiar
[speaker001:] yeah my my great-grandfather my great-grandfather had found uh my great-grandfather was was was around during the depression so he had actually hidden a lot of money in the house over there and of course you know the moment you go into a nursing home situation they take everything
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and and it was it was terrible and very demeaning he didn't wanna lose the independence and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh that was the biggest problem because we didn't really catch it as early as you seem to have as far as you know planning you know of long-term
[speaker002:] well we didn't catch it for my first grandmother my first set of grandparents but my other grandparents had apparently it's like a retirement community and they knew a lot of friends who had done the same thing and when they got there
[speaker001:] yeah