[speaker001:] have you gone to college yourself
[speaker002:] yeah I have
[speaker001:] did you where'd you go
[speaker002:] I went to Western State College in Gunnison Colorado
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] what about you
[speaker001:] uh I went I graduated from ah Weaver State University here at in Ogden
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] yeah so what did you uh or what would you recommend for a good college I guess
[speaker002:] I personally would recommend the smaller college just because
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know you get a lot more individual attention and and you can go speak talk to your professor and
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh it's just more I think it's more conducive to studying especially if you're like a freshman
[speaker001:] yeah I agree with you a hundred percent I Weaver's a pretty small college we have uh about ten thousand to twelve thousand students and I I have some friends who went to Brigham Young University and the the University of Utah that you know they got twenty five thirty thousand people and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know all they are is a number you go to a testing center for everything and you just check in by number or you most all most of the time they said they actually even had uh uh student or not student teacher but you know graduate students teaching their classes
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] whereas you know all my professors I knew they were PhD's or whatever and that they were tenured and everything and felt like uh like like you say I got a lot more personal attention and
[speaker002:] right is that uh is that in the mountains
[speaker001:] uh yeah we are
[speaker002:] oh great
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] well that's the way that's what Western State was too
[speaker001:] oh yeah it's beautiful I I'd
[speaker002:] yeah I wouldn't trade it I wish I could move back
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] I'm tired of the big city that's for sure yeah
[speaker001:] are you are you close to Dallas or
[speaker002:] yeah we're just uh uh out skirts of Dallas
[speaker001:] yeah uh we uh in fact my campus was right on uh the benches of the mountains so I was it was really pretty all the time
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] sure enjoy I I don't know if I could ever move away
[speaker002:] did you ski
[speaker001:] of course yeah you I I haven't uh actually the last couple of years I haven't been able to as much because uh out of school but uh I I did a lot when I was in high school and stuff when I didn't have to spend the time studying and working and supporting a family but
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I love it you yourself
[speaker002:] oh yeah definitely
[speaker001:] yeah you don't get as much of a chance down there in Texas do you I would think
[speaker002:] no  I regret it too I I really wanna
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I'd like to go this year we were supposed to go on a ski trip but that's one that's one thing I would recommend too because you know
[speaker001:] go up to Colorado or yeah
[speaker002:] most college you go to a college and you make what you what you uh what you can out of it you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and when you get out then you know you're you basically promote yourself and you try and network into a company or or get a job or start a business or whatever
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] but uh you just can't trade the the the time you know that you spend in the mountains you know if you if you fish and hunt or whatever and ski
[speaker001:] yeah that's true um-hum
[speaker002:] you know I I'd never give up that
[speaker001:] oh yeah they offer I mean anymore they offer cook there's a you know we have uh we had a mountain climbing class we had you know we had a ski class
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and there was all kind of that stuff that was offered as you know electives and those were I mean those were the funniest ones I mean
[speaker002:] right sure
[speaker001:] that made up for all the English classes or you know the science classes you had to take but uh
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] yeah that was what made it like I say made it worthwhile and at least kept you going to school on a semi regular basis I know it was pretty tough come spring or in summer or especially when it was so cold man if you didn't have a reason like a ski class you never went
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] yeah it just wasn't worth it so but yeah I uh I'm convinced that after getting me my undergraduate degree I would like to go to a big name school to get my graduate degree but they're so expensive I'm not anymore I I almost think people just require they require a graduate degree or an undergraduate degree they don't necessarily care where from and if you wanna set yourself apart you have to go get that big graduate degree from Harvard or some place like that
[speaker002:] yeah they do that's right
[speaker001:] or else it you know you're just Joe Blow off the street nobody knows but
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] what'd you get your degree in
[speaker002:] uh business administration
[speaker001:] oh did you did you have an emphasis in anything or
[speaker002:] yeah emphasis in finance
[speaker001:] oh did you that's what I got mine in was in finance yeah so where you're working at now
[speaker002:] yeah really I'm at uh company by the name of E Systems we're a defense contractor down here
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] it's it's pretty good company so
[speaker001:] oh really are you an analyst for them or
[speaker002:] yeah I'm a scheduling analyst yeah
[speaker001:] oh really great
[speaker002:] so
[speaker001:] yeah I'm a little out of my field of what I wanna be I'm an auditor for a credit union but
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] it's not something I wanna do for very long
[speaker002:] is there a lot of
[speaker001:] we're kind of the bad guys it's kind of a negative type thing but
[speaker002:] a lot of companies up there or
[speaker001:] uh not not a lot of private ah there I mean there's a lot of companies but they're not really large enough they're mainly there's a lot of family type companies and just small ten fifteen people
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] we uh pretty much are you know the government plays a big part in our economy and
[speaker002:] for what reason how do they do that
[speaker001:] well we got we have uh