[speaker001:] kind of dream car do you want to buy
[speaker002:] oh gee do I want to buy I don't know that I really want a whole lot more other other than what I got I just uh got a car about uh fourteen fifteen fifteen months ago now
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh I bought a Taurus um the thing I want always wanted a car with a big trunk so I can carry a lot of stuff that's one of the prime considerations I want something that's reasonably reliable and something that's not likely to get expensively damaged in a small crash and you can't get all three today you got got to give up one or the other
[speaker001:] hm that's interesting yeah uh reliability and an economy you know if you drive a lot but
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah the the fuel economy is not a big factor uh especially with the way that gasoline prices now are below what they were in nineteen eighty of course they were pretty outrageous then but but
[speaker001:] in real dollars yeah
[speaker002:] yeah in in real dollars it's just not not much of a factor um you know the uh what your ma call its it does it's it's less than insurance I think for example
[speaker001:] yeah that's true but I think that's really artificial you know that's unfortunate it's unfortunate it's it should probably uh taxed or something to
[speaker002:] well I don't that's that would be that would be reasonable I think I'm I'm wondering about the economic justification for taxing gasoline some more you say well it's a a nonrenewable resource uh
[speaker001:] limit that
[speaker002:] but I don't know there's lots of nonrenewable nonrenewable resources that one could tax just because they're nonrenewable including everything you mine out of the ground um I don't know if if there really is that justification but uh it certainly is is more more palatable to have them tax gasoline and use it to build roads than it is to have them take take tolls which means you got to stop and means that
[speaker001:] huh but uh getting back to the topic I guess I guess kind of pushed I guess I kind of pushed us off to the side supposed to be talking about cars not
[speaker002:] excuse me yeah but there's nobody that checks you see we could actually talk about anything but um if you I mean bring us bring us back to the topic if you'd like
[speaker001:] yeah well um I don't know uh you know I guess the uh I was like interested in like the uh the new Honda VX
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] has the uh lean burn and all that stuff supposed to be very fuel efficient so it gives you about the same kind of horsepower
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh boosts your uh mileage by like uh almost ten twenty miles per gallon
[speaker002:] hm so what would you get uh you know what what are the what are the EPA fuel economy numbers
[speaker001:] almost in the fifties
[speaker002:] hm yeah that's that's pretty good now I don't know how big the car is I mean does it have a big trunk that's sort of the bottom line
[speaker001:] well you can you know like a well Civic is is like a Corolla or something it it's
[speaker002:] yeah that's no good
[speaker001:] it's it's not as well hey it's in some ways it's not quite as big as a Taurus but then it's not too much smaller either um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but
[speaker002:] someday and and you know if you have kids then you're gonna want to have passengers room for passengers and and uh
[speaker001:] no dreams for a sports car of any kind
[speaker002:] no I just I'm I just um um well you you can't drive it any faster than the other cars anyway it's not allowed you know but
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] and and most sports cars don't have room for anything in them that's not my kind of vehicle
[speaker001:] so you'd rather have a one of those big vans
[speaker002:] well I maybe I don't know about a van the thing I I hate when I hate it when I'm behind vans but being in one would be the opposite effect you could see over everything that would be helpful
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] um so many times you get behind somebody and you wonder what's up ahead and if that person stops then you might have a hard time stopping so you or you or you just can't see around it like somebody could come in from an intersection you couldn't see it because the van blocks your field of view but uh
[speaker001:] what do you have a station wagon or a regular
[speaker002:] no I got a regular car but you know four four door sedan
[speaker001:] uh-huh do you have those uh split seats that fold down
[speaker002:] yep um-hum
[speaker001:] from the uh the trunk that's a good innovation
[speaker002:] oh no no not the one for the trunk I didn't get that one that would have been good but uh
[speaker001:] then you could put a lot more in
[speaker002:] I could oh yeah you could do that right uh I thought I thought it was that but it just doesn't work I mean there just is it would it would be it would be it would be nice if I could do that I agree
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] is that well well let's let's put it this way the user manual doesn't say anything about it now I don't know it's maybe it's an undocumented
[speaker001:] that's interesting  are you one to read manuals before using something
[speaker002:] this one is so much longer than any other one that I that I that I ever saw that that I didn't even think about writing it now reading now when I was a little kid and my parents got new cars then I would always read the manual
[speaker001:] oh yeah I guess so hey it's a it's a substitute for something wanting to drive
[speaker002:] but yeah yeah once I learned to drive
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] that story was different yeah
[speaker001:] oh I don't know I I I I don't know I like um I I like those