[speaker002:] well I I don't think that it's it's wrong for a company to require drug testing for certain types of positions for instance jobs that require use of heavy machinery and things like that where there's where there's uh endangerment to their own life and other people's lives
[speaker001:] all right I agree with that people that are uh driving
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] like uh truck drivers and things like that I definitely think they should be tested and and I'm not I'm not opposed to any testing I mean
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] because I know I certainly wouldn't want to uh you know be endangered by somebody in a company that accidentally dropped something on me or you know because he was on drugs while he was there
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] well how do you feel how do you feel about uh companies drug testing prior to hiring
[speaker001:] oh um I was tested uh within my company I think it's it's it's kind of a push to uh weed out drugs in states and because I don't know of any other countries that are doing this
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and I feel I feel like it's really just within the United States it's um it's okay I think your record should stand for itself that you know if you've been tested at other companies and you've always come up negative or whatever then I don't see what the big deal is that they have to go to all the expense of testing you over and over and over and once you've established the fact that you're not a drug user and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] especially if your personality proves that you're not
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I think they could uh save money by not doing that you know every time say if you change jobs that you you wouldn't have to do it if you'd just been tested at your other work place
[speaker002:] well what about random testing though
[speaker001:] oh right
[speaker002:] do do you feel like that's an invasion invasion of certain people's rights if not everyone is tested
[speaker001:] uh not if it's done fairly and that's probably my question is how how do you know it's done fairly
[speaker002:] I don't know that you do if it's random then it's random and that's not necessarily fair
[speaker001:] yeah well they might tell you it's random
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but then you know it's kind of like a a lottery somebody in their lifetime may win millions of dollars where another person doesn't win anything and tries and tries and tries
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know
[speaker002:] well I happen I know that for instance in the NC double A they drug test and it's not random
[speaker001:] oh I see how'd how did they how do they pick their people
[speaker002:] um well I think all college players have to do an initial drug test at a certain point prior to the season and from that point on uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] at the NC double A does have something to do with it but it's almost discretionary on the coach's part of each individual individually individual institution to identify the ones that have the problem
[speaker001:] oh I see so do you
[speaker002:] and and the ones that test positive have to retest after a certain period of time
[speaker001:] right well do you think that should be implemented in the work place you know as like a manager or supervisor thinks or has suspicion that someone is using drugs do you think they should have the right to send them
[speaker002:] well not being a drug user I don't have a problem with that personally but I think that might be a violation of someone's rights if someone's
[speaker001:] to be tested right
[speaker002:] having personal problems for some reason that's causing them to have behave differently and their manager assumes they have a drug problem I mean if someone assumed that of me I would be upset
[speaker001:] right  right right yeah it it would almost be like a a uh
[speaker002:] it's an accusation and and it's and it's based based on on uh perception that someone has of how a drug user would behave when some drugs users behave
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh normal uh you know
[speaker001:] right and then how would you feel afterwards when you came up negative and you know your supervisor has accused you of using drugs
[speaker002:] right exactly it it I don't the I think almost the only way that drug testing can be done fairly is if it's across the board from from the janitors to the executive management
[speaker001:] right I agree with that because I know personally myself I've been in the same job for three years it'll be three years in August and I've already been drug tested three times
[speaker002:] um-hum what type of job do you have
[speaker001:] well I'm an environmental engineer
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I've been drug tested three times and I know many people that have never been tested in their lifetime and the company I work for is sixty thousand people plus so see I I for some reason I've come up three times that's pretty high statistics
[speaker002:] well does your job require does your job require you to drive company equipment or to operate any type of machinery that might endanger endanger someone
[speaker001:] no no not at all it
[speaker002:] well it that doesn't I I mean I I
[speaker001:] it's a legal job you know
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so see it's really strange
[speaker002:] hum that is odd I was drug tested uh not for the job I have now but for the prior job uh but I know that they sent that the job I had before that well the job I have have now requested my uh uh my uh medical record from my old company
[speaker001:] oh uh-huh
[speaker002:] so I don't know if I wasn't drug tested based on that or because the man who hired me didn't request the drug test because I know that my company does drug testing on occasion
[speaker001:] right well does your the company say for instance does the company you worked for before before have the right or do they have the ability to say hey we've already drug tested her and and she came up negative
[speaker002:] well no I don't think they can they can force another company to not drug test me just by saying that I I didn't I mean they they don't know that I don't use drugs they just tested me once
[speaker001:] yeah right right yeah
[speaker002:] but I used to work for a power company so it was very important that they make sure their employees especially linemen
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh were clean
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and since I was just you know one of the office folk I guess it wasn't as important to them that they test me regularly but I know they test most of the service people fairly regularly regularly uh just across the board
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah and are they tested random
[speaker002:] no they're all of them are tested once every three months it's a rotation
[speaker001:] they're oh okay I see
[speaker002:] but it but again it depends on what job you're in the men that are out there fixing power lines are tested a lot
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and the men that drive the trucks with with the guys that fix the power lines aren't tested as much
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] but but see they make that clear to them as they hire those guys what the what the drug testing schedule is they say we we're testing you tomorrow and we'll test you every three months thereafter while you work here
[speaker001:] oh I see uh-huh okay so they know that and they
[speaker002:] yeah it's it's made very c lear upon hiring
[speaker001:] uh-huh okay well
[speaker002:] well have we spent our at least five minutes okay
[speaker001:] yeah I think so yeah seven twenty five
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] okay nice speaking to you
[speaker002:] nice to talk to you too bye-bye
[speaker001:] okay bye