[speaker002:] so you're looking for a car
[speaker001:] well actually not but I'm all ways looking at them you know you know yeah it uh
[speaker002:] yeah I know that feeling mines about ten years old now so debating weather to run it into the ground
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] put up with those headache or get something new
[speaker001:] hum you know am convince that um it's always cheaper to repair than replace and uh you know if you replace there are other reason for doing it like you want you know my my answer to a car is it's okay if it ugly um it okay depending on the amount there is a bunch of other things that okay that it is it got to be reliable there is no excuse for that
[speaker002:] right that's number one well that and safety
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] safe and reliable
[speaker001:] um-hum well safety is subjective I think um you know one person criteria of safety is maybe a little different from another person
[speaker002:] well I think yeah that's true but reliability you know if it's not reliable it's not safe
[speaker001:] well the you know not reliable company it it will never start in which case extremely safe
[speaker002:] well may be not if you're on the Trans Alaska highway
[speaker001:] yeah that's true there are places where you can starve or freeze to death if your car want start um for a while I was a proponent of Saab's and um I have had two of them and one was a tremendous one disappointment from a reliability view point and um basically I decided to get rid of it before the warranty ran out
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] and I think I was cured of the European motoring mystic at that point
[speaker002:] well the Saab does have a lot of good features and the reliability is uh like one of the few things I worry about with Saab
[speaker001:] um have you own one or
[speaker002:] no I haven't but uh you know look looking around it does seem like a roomy
[speaker001:] guess I'm
[speaker002:] good handling
[speaker001:] you know if it weren't for the reliability in every other respect the car was wonderful drove great ton of room very very safe but front wheel drive which with me a plus but I just keep having um string of minor malfunctions
[speaker002:] yeah exactly yeah
[speaker001:] and um just the process of have to pay for these thing you know also the increments is what a hundred and fifty dollars two hundred fifty every time you take it to a mechanic and touch it hundred dollars hundred dollars hundred dollars
[speaker002:] oh yeah well that's yeah that's the other drawback of Saab is that they are not really cheap
[speaker001:] yeah its can of funny because um I was having it repaired at this place called Import Only and um this guy's comment was and I asked him you know you you repair them all what do you think is best kind of reliability and he kind of get a Japanese car um that starting to fall out of fashion these days
[speaker002:] oh yeah a lot of flag waving going on
[speaker001:] uh yeah you know I'm convince that well you it kind of interesting is what I'm driving right now is a Ford Probe which is manufactured in a Mazda factory in Illinois so I'm not sure weather it's an import or not
[speaker002:] well that's a serious problem if your concerned with that I don't its possible the where things are built anyone
[speaker001:] yeah it's fake it's fake because see I mean even if I I'm sure the um you know if you take the most Americanized in American cars and you know pry open one of those computer you will find a computer chip that were assemble in Singapore and so forth uh it's just difficult difficult
[speaker002:] oh yeah you know
[speaker001:] I mean it's got funny coming once just before and um equal the orange juice was label concentrate manufactured in the United States and Turkey who would have though of it apple say orange apple apple juice and turkey
[speaker002:] yeah its probably own by a European country company that's employing Mexican
[speaker001:] very probably you know its um yeah I think the ideal of um yeah its interesting because you know the location um
[speaker002:] you you know
[speaker001:] don't seem to uh you know you you can work over several thousands of miles not like it once was use use to be they request uh penalty for uh doing it but I don't think it's true any more
[speaker002:] yeah it seems like a oh well transportation does still cost
[speaker001:] and so yeah absolutely um you know but there may be other bigger factors so if you decide to replace this ten year vehicle what what is the prime contender right know
[speaker002:] well uh I was I was actually thinking of the Saab nine thousands
[speaker001:] yeah I own one
[speaker002:] but there's a there's a few other hatchbacks
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] no well I have it a Toyota and I like the Toyota's
[speaker001:] yeah um which kind
[speaker002:] it's a a Supra
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] so it handles really well so I'm reluctant to get anything that handles poorly
[speaker001:] yeah uh you would like the Saab have you driven one
[speaker002:] um I drove a nine hundred about five years years ago
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah
[speaker002:] it was very nice
[speaker001:] well I had had a nine hundred which I replaced the nine thousand nine thousands is the one that gave me a lot of problems
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] um I happen the think the nine hundreds is a uh I like the nine hundred better it it had more of the Saab weirdness which really attracted me
[speaker002:] yes uh I don't mine ugly
[speaker001:] yeah um you know it's um
[speaker002:] in fact I really don't