[speaker001:] okay I guess they're
[speaker002:] okay so uh you go first yeah
[speaker001:] okay um  I guess I um haven't really thought about it for a while I guess um the uh job part of the one I have now there is a requirement that kind of came in after the fact that does since they have contracts one of their uh companies they contract with required it and uh you know by then it was it was kind of uh um you know they didn't explain up front that that might be a requirement but it sounded like it was kind of sprung on them by the uh firms they had contracts with
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh but it's it's not something I think is appropriate I guess there might be exceptions you know if if you're in a critical position like you're a traffic controller or something like that
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but um it should it it seems like uh I guess the employer uh is just I think a massing too much information there's it's just an intrusion into uh kind of your personal life
[speaker002:] right yeah that that that's how I feel I feel the um the employee um the employer has concern about you know what's going on in my body to the degree that it affects how I am doing my job and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] um there are lots of factors that affect how I do my job I I don't personally take any drugs but you know that's one factor that could affect something an employee's performance
[speaker001:] right uh-huh
[speaker002:] there are plenty of other factors like I know for me how much sleep I got you know what I ate for breakfast those things have a lot big impact on how I perform during the day
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and unless they're they want to get involved in all these other areas also you know like maybe providing healthy meals healthy breakfast for employees or something like that you know I mean I I
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh that's you know that's one step and it what it is what they're getting into is the drug testing is a real quick and easy way and politically um feasible way of going about this because you know everybody is going to be against drugs you know well just about everybody is against drug use so let's test everybody for it
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] but the thing is it's not it's not my company's business what I do on the weekends or in in the evenings you know if I show up for work hungover
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] then they've got something to say you know so hungover to the extent that I'm not able to do my job well
[speaker001:] right yeah I know think most impairments would be obvious fairly obvious you know but
[speaker002:] yeah yeah but on the other hand if I go out and have fifteen thousand beers but then I'm fine the next morning it's none of their business
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know what I do with myself or if if I smoke fifteen joints or something and I hit or whatever um
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and that's how I feel about it uh things drug testing for uh marijuana I guess can detect use uh or actually they can do tests with um with hair samples of hair and finger nails
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] that can test or detect use like months and months and months previous
[speaker001:] wow
[speaker002:] you know and so it's obviously that there's not you could've decided okay I'm going to stop now and may have stopped for three months and still it would show up in these tests and that's completely unfair
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] um also especially it's unfair when the companies don't offer some sort of treatment program also it you know it's like oh we find you with drugs so huh you're gone
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] get out of here um luckily my company is doesn't uh do any of that sort of thing they they were talking about doing the policy of testing new people new employees as they come in but not anything it it wouldn't be random it would be everybody um
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] and it wouldn't be current employees it would only be new employees um but I you know I
[speaker001:] yeah seems like it's a sneaky way to introduce it because eventually you know then everybody would
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] done it and they they
[speaker002:] right yeah it it'll be
[speaker001:] you know the climate would be different then
[speaker002:] yeah and I I you know I don't think the companies have any cause to do that sort of thing unless there's you know reasonable suspicion you know if you come in obvious glassy eyed everyday from lunch or something it's okay somebody's been smoking some pot here
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] then do a drug test if you have some reasonable suspicion but it's
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know there there there's so many things I mean if if I were going through a divorce for instance which is something a lot of people experience that would really negatively affect my performance
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] you know are they going to require that I stay married or that I require me to some how have a perfect marriage or something well then you know that doesn't make sense
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah
[speaker002:] so it's
[speaker001:] yeah it just seems like it's a intrusion I mean the the only angle they might have is if um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I guess if they're paying the insurance premium or something like that then it you know
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] it might be that they the carrier the carrier they're using has a has higher rates or something like that so there's there's probably an economic argument
[speaker002:] right well in in in in that case charge the employees extra