[speaker001:] so do you do any kind of regular exercise
[speaker002:] uh what I do most regular is swim lap swimming
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] and um of course I've been indoors a lot lately we've been having some really cold weather here but I prefer swimming outdoor
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] um for the I think I find the our door atmosphere more inspiring for my exercise really
[speaker001:] uh-huh a little less claustrophobic
[speaker002:] yeah yeah and um I just thought I always fill a little more lively um I think when I the times when I do
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] or wouldn't having to pass on to the gym maybe to work with weight the weight machine um
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] it just a little more spacious yeah like you said claustrophobic
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] what do you do for exercise
[speaker001:] well very little lately what I do I walk about a mile to the bus
[speaker002:] well that a mile a good way each way
[speaker001:] in the morning yeah and and then then a mile back
[speaker002:] well that's good two miles a day is nothing to at
[speaker001:] it's it's a lot better then nothing I think
[speaker002:] oh yeah I've just recently um something I tried to incorporate into life style just recently is walking when I'm going short distances like when I'm at work if I'm going to go to a restraint for lunch just choosing one close enough to walk
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah that's nice I think it really clears your head a little bit
[speaker002:] yeah and I think one of the um probably I I think that one of the most important thing about enjoying your exercise and getting it regularly just to have it in your life style like and not be like
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] six o'clock at night and well now I've got to go
[speaker001:] well that's one that's one reason I actually do the walking where I tried other thing is it has a point to it
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] it's really is part of what I need to do anyway you know I need to get to the bus
[speaker002:] yeah and it's finite too you know you eventually reach the bus you don't reach your two miles and say well I really should walk that extra mile
[speaker001:] it's find I right right right it's something I had to do where when I tried you know running around the track I felt just a little pointless
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and it was very easy to avoid
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] very easy
[speaker001:] and I'm I'm trying to do some um some you know calisthenic type thing at home
[speaker002:] oh are you really
[speaker001:] but it's very easy to avoid
[speaker002:] yeah um one calisthenic type thing that I I feel like I I feel like I have gotten to do and eventually with out having to think about it do is just squatting down when I going to pick something up instead of bending over at the waist
[speaker001:] uh ooh
[speaker002:] and um I can I think I fill like I can already tell the difference in my thighs just I have a little more definition
[speaker001:] that's very interesting something probably better for you anyway
[speaker002:] yeah and I yeah and that what that what started it with a little bit of back trouble I was having and of course I didn't want to do leg lift or anything
[speaker001:] yes right are those are then of the painful and sort of artificial category
[speaker002:] that's right that's right
[speaker001:] well I was just I one of the issues I want to do is try to avoid some back pain or try to I mean I have it every once and a while and I know when I do this exercise I don't get it which is it call it crunches
[speaker002:] yeah oh yeah
[speaker001:] we kind of do a sit-ups
[speaker002:] yes together I'm just going to ignore that call waiting if you heard it
[speaker001:] yeah okay um yeah where you sort of try to put ribcage into your pelvis and do it over and over again
[speaker002:] that would defiantly fall in the unnatural category
[speaker001:] yes it does it does and I always find a good reason not to do it um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but I can tell that I haven't done it
[speaker002:] no this girlfriend of mines got a pretty flat stomach not I don't really but I don't I was asking her because she does not she's one of those who just doesn't exercise you know
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and um but she said she you know just you know hold her stomach in all day I mean you know just constantly holds it in all day
[speaker001:] oh yes I trying to decided if that was good or not good
[speaker002:] well I'm sure it would be good for your back it seems like it might impede impede you know impede your breathing a little bit in less really use to it
[speaker001:] uh-huh um
[speaker002:] what do you think
[speaker001:] yeah I I mean I found myself doing it I mean I sort of been in that habit through out my life and lately it's uh lately it's not
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] hasn't been happen quit as much
[speaker002:] yeah I I was in it for a while um when I was in high school I took um choral and you have to hold your you know just to regulate your breathing you had
[speaker001:] uh-huh you don't stand very carefully
[speaker002:] yeah but I found like the top half of my stomach above above my belly button was getting you know was always tone but then the the trouble spot below the belly button never never quit tone you know and you know that was the part I was concern about so I just blew it all off all together
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh yeah yeah um and what else lately along with the crunches I was trying to do some push-ups
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] uh well my wife is we're expecting a baby in May
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] and I know that from the last time what she really like is to have a lot of very hard back rubs during the whole thing and I'm just not ready for it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I thought well if I can do a bunch of push-up then I should be able to get through these this time but uh I have the problem now where we have a son who is almost three and he think that it is great fun to try to climb on my back while I'm doing the push-up so
[speaker002:] well that could you know slow you down a little bit it's just that extra resistance and
[speaker001:] it's slows me down a little it makes each one a little more meaningful but I can't quit do any
[speaker002:] um do you do any exercises for your hand the little muscle in your hand
[speaker001:] um no what what what are you thinking