[speaker001:] all right
[speaker002:] yes yes I think we're terribly taxed I I think the Republicans have taxed us just as much as the Democrats and I don't think there's a change between one party than the other uh I think we get get a lot back but not as much as we should
[speaker001:] uh I guess what I feel about it is that it's so mismanaged that it there's got to be something when when we pay so much for the for the debt instead of using the money for where it ought to go it it's just it's ridiculous What kills me is when they had a chance to to uh put into action action the the Gramm the Gramm Rudman what is it
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] uh the act where they had to cut everything across the board they kept doing they kept putting off doing that why did they do that that's exactly what they needed to do to get their act together
[speaker002:] the Gramm the Gramm Rudman Act yeah yeah well I think they spend too much they they spend too much on themselves too the the
[speaker001:] oh yeah I think so too
[speaker002:] a lot of the the taxes gets back to the members of the Congress and everything all running for twenty years rather than
[speaker001:] yeah well things like mailings they don't use any kind of restraint on some of these things they just think once they get there that they can do just anything you know they don't they don't try to uh to conserve
[speaker002:] no you're right
[speaker001:] and of course here at home we end up conserving and conserving and I mean when I don't have money I don't buy something
[speaker002:] yeah no I think uh it it is the Congress and them just don't have any interest in saving us money uh
[speaker001:] they sure don't seem to
[speaker002:] the national debt is terrible uh
[speaker001:] there're a couple of things I think we need to really work for and I don't know quite how to do it but I think we need to have the one line uh uh veto so that they don't have to spend so much time doing everything if it's a good idea it can be done again
[speaker002:] right oh yeah
[speaker001:] you know and if it's not so what at least you haven't thrown out all the work they've done for months and months and months and months
[speaker002:] yeah I saw one on Twenty Twenty uh about a month ago I guess whereas one I think that he was a Senator from Pennsylvania or something like that maybe it was uh Connecticut I'm not sure one of the small states up there where he had a bill through for another um a drug agency that would be located there and he was the only one that wanted it it was going to cost millions of dollars the drug agency didn't want it and he was going to build it in his home town and they were going to hire a lot of people and it was ridiculous you know the whole thing and and you know they they asked him about it and
[speaker001:] yeah this is that's right
[speaker002:] do you really need this this is going to cost a lot of money oh yes we need it but do you know that the drug agency doesn't want this
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and they do things that are you know just like the uh
[speaker001:] yeah that's just an awful lot of that kind of thing going on and the trouble is you don't you have so little input about it you don't know enough
[speaker002:] yeah that right
[speaker001:] to know what what to do about some of this stuff I
[speaker002:] right yeah they're supposed to do what we say but they do what they they want to do really
[speaker001:] yeah that's right the other thing about is I think uh limiting their time in office would be good I I just can't believe there aren't other people out there that could do just as well as what we've got
[speaker002:] absolutely absolutely we need to get that through we we have said that I've said it several times on different subjects about the government that two year two terms is enough for all of them
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh whether you're mayor all the way up city council the works I think certainly President that uh two terms is plenty
[speaker001:] yeah I think that's right
[speaker002:] and then we get these professionals out of there and they have to learn how to earn a living again themselves you know rather than living off of us
[speaker001:] yeah wouldn't that be too bad  well that's right I think I don't know I think uh people in general the the the the idea of what you need to to exist is so outrageous that it's not hardly you know it starts at the courts it starts everywhere
[speaker002:] um-hum right
[speaker001:] until we can't we've just lost control of of any kind of perspective about what is acceptable and what is not acceptable you know
[speaker002:] well it's so much money and you can't even add it up you know that's why they think it's
[speaker001:] no you can't even can't even conceive of what they're talking about
[speaker002:] yeah when you talk about the trillions of dollars on this and that our national debt in the trillions of dollars you know
[speaker001:] yeah yeah I mean it just and and you just the other thing is it's it's all very well to give money to help people other people and I think we need to do that but there are they need to put more limits on them they need to restrain about what they do
[speaker002:] foreign aid yeah foreign aid means to go down to almost zero unless it's absolutely necessary they they've given that away for fifty years
[speaker001:] yeah I I you know I think that's probably unless unless we can afford it if we pay off the debts then we can give it to people again
[speaker002:] I agree I agree
[speaker001:] you know I don't really mind helping people but you you need to get rid of this thing that's that's just uh eating us up
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know and get things on a on an even if it were if it were a family we'd be up before the the magistrate
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] for for doing all these wicked things you know but the government does it and it's all right
[speaker002:] yeah I I know we're taxed to death on every every thing I don't know what's the best way to do it but uh they don't even talk about that they just raise it they don't even consider it like you saying is to cut something back you know
[speaker001:] yeah that's true well sounds like
[speaker002:] they are at least doing something now with the uh the military you know they're cutting some of that but of course now you know TI you know that's hurting us but although
[speaker001:] yeah it's good to see them doing some things there anyway
[speaker002:] TI has gotten a lot of good contracts from the war and everything else and if they'll get a lot of programs in the future because of their exotic uh weapon systems but uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] that's the only good that I've seen Congress do you know and everybody and all the Congressmen and the President and everybody uh
[speaker001:] well I think we have to accept the fact that whatever happens we're going to have to bite the bullet and we're all going to have to do it I it just isn't fair though that when this happens in some places it needs to all come off everywhere
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] that's why I thought well you know this is the time they need to put that into action into action and show they mean business that they've got to cut they've got to cut costs
[speaker002:] yeah the only taxes I think that are well spent well not the only but uh I think the now I I don't understand the present school thing but uh I have two daughters one's in college already and one's about uh to be in high school but uh I think that paying for school schools is the schools is the only answer really to get rid of crime and so I don't mind paying for school taxes even though my kids will be out of it you know
[speaker001:] yeah I think that's right well I don't I don't really mind paying taxes for for positive things that are helps like roads and making sure that uh that water is safe and some of these things but um
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know it you just fe el like it's out of control you feel like they do not have control of it and that and so then it just aggravates you you know you think I could spend my money I could help the poor people better by myself than they're doing
[speaker002:] yeah the spending is out of control yeah oh I agree with you
[speaker001:] so it's
[speaker002:] I I thin k that's a wide open subject what I think that uh people need to take a stand I think the people will here shortly uh
[speaker001:] yeah well I think that's right if they don't do if they don't if they don't pull it in and start doing something I think they're really going to have to I think
[speaker002:] I think the next time we have an election we need to try to get some of the ones that have been there forever out too that what they did last election and uh ninety some odd percent of the same old boys got back in you know so we need to try to get people to two terms so they respect our wishes you know they're supposed to represent us that's what they're called but they don't
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] maybe maybe maybe we can change and get us rid of some of those guys that are in there guys and gals whatever they are
[speaker001:] yeah in some ways we're awful lucky I guess there a lot of lot of places where it's worse than it is here but
[speaker002:] I know but it
[speaker001:] still you don't want it to get that bad good heavens
[speaker002:] no that's right you don't want to uh you want it to stay as good as it possibly can be
[speaker001:] no we need to get try to get hold of it and and have it be things be honest and and I guess in the fact I don't really mind paying taxes but I would just like to know that they're not being foolishly spent that they're doing something that's positive for for somebody
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I don't really feel like uh I don't really feel like I use taxes very much I don't know maybe I do more than I I guess I do I use them in the in roads and lot of things but uh
[speaker002:] yeah that's you're right well I think one of the good ones in the metroplex uh in the last say twenty five years or so maybe longer they've built all these dams you know the Corps of Engineers have uh soon as they finish a lake they'll go at get another one and that we haven't had we've had droughts here in long summers
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] we've had good water supply and that's due to the Corps of Engineers building looking years ahead and building all these reservoirs for us you know
[speaker001:] yeah they've done some good things the state actually did some good good work on that in that a couple of years ago
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh Sam Johnson came out and talked to us about that bout what they had done and they they really had done some good
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] some good work
[speaker002:] yeah I think anything for water supply like California should do more of that too
[speaker001:] yeah yeah there are a lot of places places where they're in real trouble and and I think it would be easy enough to be in trouble here too if they don't take if they don't take that early stand
[speaker002:] right right they just finished Joe Poole Lake over here and they need to start another one I think every time they finish one they ought to just have another one in line the water's critical
[speaker001:] yeah that's probably right the growth is fast enough so that they can't afford to just dawdle and wait until something until they need them
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] well it's good to talk to you
[speaker002:] okay yeah how many calls have you made
[speaker001:] oh about nine
[speaker002:] oh yeah I'm up to twenty are you a TI'er
[speaker001:] no I just just a housewife I just heard about it and found it fun guess I like to talk that's all
[speaker002:] oh well great great okay well it's been some interesting subjects yeah
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] thanks for calling bye-bye
[speaker001:] uh-huh bye now