[speaker001:] well have you ever been a victim of any particular any type of crime
[speaker002:] uh that's interesting because I've talked about this subject before and it it didn't come up to either one of us to act uh no no nothing that I would consider major probably the most that anything of mine has ever been violated is uh you know like you know how people throw their change like into uh the glove box or the ash tray of their car and one time we had you know some kids go up and down the street and anybody whose car was open they kind of trashed that stuff out but they didn't do any vandalism and yeah it bugged me but you know when I think of crime and and things that could happen
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I I guess that was minor
[speaker001:] sounds like you've been very fortunate I haven't had too many terrible things happen to me but my tee tops did get stolen one time off my car
[speaker002:] I have ah that's a very popular pass time up here do you have a Vette
[speaker001:] out of right uh no it's a TransAm
[speaker002:] a TransAm uh in fact there was a ring I know that you stop right up here and uh the police department would call TI security when they knew they were in town basically and say you know tell all your folks with Vets and whatever else to be look on the lookout for them but that's expensive you know
[speaker001:] it's very expensive and insurance companies don't like it either
[speaker002:] yeah they don't want to write you
[speaker001:] yeah well I I did put an alarm on the car after that
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] and uh I kept that for a while until the alarm malfunctioned and started going off in the middle of the night for no reason and
[speaker002:] oh that's not good
[speaker001:] it upset the neighbors in the apartment complex so I disabled it
[speaker002:] well okay now I uh I mean I've had other members of my family touched um I have had a cousin of mine that was murdered uh things like that uh for no apparent reason you know it's that was lost in the country trying to find her folks new house up in Kansas and
[speaker001:] uh-huh right
[speaker002:] stopped to use the phone and a teenage kid whose parents had lots of money
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh killed her so nothing was ever done to him but so you know yeah I I'm not sure there's many lives that aren't affected by it somewhere
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh I don't know what the answers should be per se
[speaker001:] yeah you stop and think about what you can do to uh to prevent or reduce crime and in fact tonight uh alone I I got a phone call from one of the security uh uh systems home security systems that uh install uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh systems in your home to uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] monitor and uh I guess detect uh it's that that type of break ins
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] they uh have a certain fee that they charge each month and an installation fee and they're real hot hot about uh trying to get uh trying to sell these systems to everybody
[speaker002:] yeah I um I would like a home alarms that perimeter alarm system I've been very impressed with the one that the Amway Corporation uh puts together because it's it's as extensive as you want it to be you can you can kind of coordinate to your own home you know however many uh types of devices you need and it's a wireless system so it's not one they can disable
[speaker001:] do you know what the do you know the name brand is for that
[speaker002:] the name Amguard
[speaker001:] okay that's the their own personal alarm brand okay
[speaker002:] yeah they make it uh-huh and
[speaker001:] there are several systems like that there's one that uh uh employees sale sold once upon a time called Schlage
[speaker002:] oh oh
[speaker001:] that's also modular and wireless and you can add as many sensors as you need to
[speaker002:] yeah about my husband he's like one of these like I want to have guns and guns kind of scare me uh not so much for me you know I feel like I'm responsible I'd learn how to use it and yes I could shoot someone if you know they were trying to take my kids or take my life or you know I'm basically a nonviolent person but I could do that but it scares me because of so many accidents that have occurred with children in the home that find the guns and
[speaker001:] well there's some some
[speaker002:] uh you know accidentally shoot a brother or shoot a sister or shoot themselves and I'm not real sold on that yet
[speaker001:] right but there's also a lot of people who are end up being victimized by their own weapons
[speaker002:] by their own
[speaker001:] a burglar comes in and uh finds a gun and ends up using it against the owners of the house so
[speaker002:] yeah well are you for uh capital punishment
[speaker001:] oh certainly yeah depending on the crime I think I discussed that at at another time
[speaker002:] well that's interesting that you say that because I am too my my sadness with it occurs that it doesn't seem to be consistent you know I I have a hard time putting one person's death for the same crime that you send the other to jail for
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know it does to me need to be consistent but uh I I
[speaker001:] well it's such a waste of taxpayers' money too to put them in prison for life
[speaker002:] for life
[speaker001:] uh especially if there's no chance of parole
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] of course my husband's of the mind that you ought to take them all out in the back alley and shoot them
[speaker001:] sometimes that's the best solution I guess
[speaker002:] I don't know I guess I have a little bit more compassion I do think they ought to have their day in court
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] only because there have been ones sent away that didn't do it but I know that's few and far between
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I uh I don't know the answer you know I have always thought that maybe the answer to the dope problem that you know generates so much of the crime is you know always you know shoot the dealers and somebody made the you know take away the supply but somebody made a comment to me a couple of months ago that's kind of had me thinking he said
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] he said somebody else will come up with the supply he said what you have to do is you know shoot or make it hard on the users because if the demand is gone they won't have anybody to supply to well that makes a little bit of sense
[speaker001:] well it makes some sense but uh the the users end up being addicts and they uh they commit crimes for for a living to make the the cash to buy their drugs with so
[speaker002:] sure sure
[speaker001:] uh and they have no respect or for for any other people anyway
[speaker002:] that's true but where was it uh oh several years ago and I want to say like Malaysia something with an M Madagascar or somewhere a small country uh you know it's it's a crime punishable by by death to them to be carrying anything and I think some British ci tizens had gone in like uh a lady and her son and they had some marijuana on them and they hung them
[speaker001:] oh that was in Malaysia and they they were two two guys from Australia
[speaker002:] was that Malaysia okay I knew it was something like that and I thought jeez that seemed so severe for marijuana but then I thought or is that just because um
[speaker001:] and
[speaker002:] I have become accustom ed to other things in hearing other things you know if I knew two of my friends got hung for carrying a little bit of marijuana it might make me think twice before I ever did it if I was of the mind to you know
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] so I don't know what the answers are but I I do feel like I do feel like when they're blatant criminals and they've got records that it seems like the system protects them more than it helps the others
[speaker001:] uh-huh well we're not the only country that has a a drug problem
[speaker002:] no we're not
[speaker001:] a lot of a lot of countries do especially smaller third world nations and their governments uh strictly enforce uh
[speaker002:] death
[speaker001:] policies against uh drug use and uh uh dealing and things like that so yeah the death penalty uh exists and it is put in force
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I don't know I know that you know I remember growing up and uh you know we'd leave the house open if we were in the house yeah if we went somewhere I grew up in a large I grew up in San Diego
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know if we went somewhere sure we'd lock the doors if it was just down the street we wouldn't or if we were in the house we wouldn't but now you know I come home I lock the door if we open the door I lock the screen door you know I want it locked when I'm in it every time I go somewhere and I I just almost hate that feeling
[speaker001:] right well you make a habit out of it and it's a tolerable situation
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh I also grew up in in a rural area and my a lot of my relatives are on dairy farms they would leave the house unattended unlocked just figuring that if anybody really wanted to break in they would anyway and there wasn't much of value to take any way so
[speaker002:] well that's one way to look at it isn't it where'd you grow up
[speaker001:] uh up in uh Wisconsin
[speaker002:] oh okay um excuse me
[speaker001:] but I've been fortunate I guess in that the only things that have happened to me are the tee tops and hubcaps off cars well
[speaker002:] yeah that's pretty minor when I think that some people give their lives so
[speaker001:] sure uh-huh
[speaker002:] so I don't know the answers though I I I do wish we had a system that was a bit more fair
[speaker001:] yeah and Plano is pretty good about it too they've got excellent uh police force here uh I haven't seen any any evidence of uh any uh mischievous deeds going on in my neighborhood
[speaker002:] oh well that's good
[speaker001:] the suburbs it's not near as bad in the suburbs as it is in the city Dallas is pretty bad
[speaker002:] right I'm sure that's true I'm sure that's true I do know that our neighbor across the street our development is probably only eight years old
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] maybe not that long we've lived here six years probably seven years old and uh the house across the street you know she walked in one night on somebody and of course he left she was fortunate
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] but things like that make it real to me and aware that it really is going on
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know that's it not a fairy tale world here
[speaker001:] that's right yeah I know people that have been victimized too a lot more seriously
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] it's uh it's not pleasant to think about that and uh you have to live with that forever so
[speaker002:] that's true well
[speaker001:] yeah I enjoyed talking to you about the subject uh
[speaker002:] and I appreciate you calling it's Gary right
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] thank you very much huh you too bye bye
[speaker001:] okay have a good evening sure bye