[speaker001:] family with children or
[speaker002:] uh yes in fact I'm I'm I've got grandchildren
[speaker001:] oh do you
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so what do you find yourself spending most of your time doing with them
[speaker002:] uh spending uh oh just visiting back and forth fortunately when your children get up in their thirties they finally grow up you get to enjoy them
[speaker001:] that's true and then you just get to spoil the grandkids and send them home right that's what my mom always says
[speaker002:] right right right yeah do you have children
[speaker001:] yeah I have one little daughter she's just a year and a half
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] and I think about all we ever do is just pick up after her it seems like
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] she's not too good at just sitting down and doing any one thing her attention span's only a couple of minutes I think and then its on to the new little mess
[speaker002:] oh yeah oh yeah yeah
[speaker001:] I'm sure you remember those days
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] but and we try and sit and read to her she's really good she'll bring us books so we read a lot of books to her and stuff but I can't they got to be just a lot of pictures and not too much else
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] or else she loses her loses a attention the attention's not that interesting to her for very long
[speaker002:] yeah I I think one of the very most important was I I guess about the most important thing that you can do for small children like that is to read to them
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh and get them to love books before they ever start to preschool
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] uh
[speaker002:] I was very fortunate in having an older sister who read to me constantly and uh so I was I went to school in the days before public kindergarten
[speaker001:] uh uh-huh oh yeah uh-huh
[speaker002:] but uh uh I had practically all the fairy stories read to me before I started to school so
[speaker001:] uh-huh and it
[speaker002:] uh uh I made great strides and I I'm sure you'll experience the same thing
[speaker001:] yeah I I uh my mom used to spend quite a bit of time and I I've carried it through I love to read now and and uh that's why we've we've made it a point whenever she brings us a book that we don't you know we always sit down with her right then and read it so that we try and instill that on her that
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] that uh it's something good to do but
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] yeah it's it's kind of cute because she'll just come and she'll just start you know kind of not whining but just letting us know that it she wants us to read this book and it's the same one over and over and over again it seems like but
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] yeah but I guess like you say she it's something so she at least she gets in the habit
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but yeah we uh my wife works at a day care part time and she's able to take her with her there but she she works with a lot of kids whose parents you know it's they drop them off at six in the morning and then pick them up at six at night and
[speaker002:] oh yeah um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] then they're proud if their kids are in bed by eight you know which means they only get to spend about two hours a day with them and I just kind of wonder
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you know there's there's a lot to be said with with parents you know for parents spending time with their kids that's for sure
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] other than just you know putting them in front of the TV or something like that
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] I have a kind of a hard time with that but it's uh I think it's fair to say you get more of a there's a lot more love and they don't have to go elsewhere to find the the attention and stuff if the parents are spending time doing stuff with them
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so  how many children did you have do you have
[speaker002:] I have three three yeah
[speaker001:] three and how many grandchildren
[speaker002:] uh eight
[speaker001:] eight oh that's good
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] yeah we uh my mom and dad just well they have three grandchildren now each of my brother and sister each we each have one but
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] they're they're fond of like I say they like to keep them for a couple of hours but boy when they send them home with us they sure you know it cause they have been spoiled to death
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] they like them but
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] uh they they're looking forward they like I say they've been looking forward to the time when they could just send them home with their with their parents as opposed to having to keep us all the time
[speaker002:] yeah yeah yeah
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] I I think one of the hardest things to do with children is to be consistent and and uh in your discipline cause some days when you're feeling pretty good you wouldn't mind letting them get away with murder then on days when you don't feel well
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah yeah well how do you do
[speaker002:] what do you mean you didn't do this
[speaker001:] how did you do that I mean you know as far as having to tell them no or slapping their hands or something like that that's that's what we struggle with
[speaker002:] oh oh gee I I I I did a lot of the wrong things I'm sure but uh uh that that was the hardest thing I found was to be consistent and if
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I I tried to keep as few rules but well really about the only rule I had was they couldn't play on the top bunk and they had to confine their eating to the kitchen
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah those are the ones that save you a lot of time and energy
[speaker002:] so yeah yeah and uh so uh I don't know they all turned around out okay so
[speaker001:] yeah well that's the important thing and they probably appreciate all you did for them so
[speaker002:] well I I think so and um
[speaker001:] yeah we're just like I say we just all I keep hearing is from my mom is just you wait you know you'll get all that you ever gave so I could be in trouble but
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I say they they're a handful that's for sure we I just last night uh she
[speaker002:] yeah