[speaker001:] feel about this
[speaker002:] well I've I've seen all kinds of carnage and I'm very much in favor of laws to restrict the access to guns
[speaker001:] I am too
[speaker002:] um I you know I cannot understand the the argument on the other side
[speaker001:] yeah I I hear the argument of um you don't have anything to protect yourself with and and all this that I just I don't know I don't know there's a guy at work you know that's trying to get a gun for his wife because she works in a divorce type position and she's scared that somebody might turn on her sometime and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I'm like why do people need guns in their desk at work I just don't understand that
[speaker002:] I don't understand either now there probably there probably are cases of certain occupations certain actually certain individuals in certain occupations who would
[speaker001:] but right  um-hum
[speaker002:] for whom that may be legitimate uh
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] but there whole countries where guns are banned uh I think in the United Kingdom and then in Japan
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] where the homicide rates are far far lower than the United States I don't see how it possibly
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] makes sense for us to have all these guns lying about
[speaker001:] oh I don't either and you can go to a store and pick out which one you want and just you know it's it's weird to have something like that you know I've never been a hunter or been around anything like that that um there have been guns in the house or anything like that and to see those kids having you know like you see on the news these kids like are you in Dallas or
[speaker002:] um-hum no I'm in Washington
[speaker001:] in Washington okay well we just had an accident accident here that um a fifteen year old got into a fight uh you know like you always do in school high school you know you always had little fights with kids
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum yeah
[speaker001:] well he had a fight with a kid and his older brother who's eighteen came to the school and shot the kid
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] and killed him and I'm like what in the world are these kids and then they confiscated twenty three guns from that high school out of lockers and it's like I just can't understand why these kids have guns
[speaker002:] that's amazing that's amazing yeah
[speaker001:] it's just awful
[speaker002:] yeah yeah well it happens a lot around here too um in fact maybe even worse in terms of frequency
[speaker001:] to see something like that does it uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh drive by shootings in high schools are you know
[speaker001:] yeah we had quite a few drive by shootings recently with buses of um you know that public transportation buses and like I think two people were killed during that when they were having just kids were driving by and shooting out the windows
[speaker002:] yes yeah yeah
[speaker001:] and uh and then we had that killing you know in Killeen I don't know if you heard about that
[speaker002:] yes I uh everybody heard about that
[speaker001:] yeah I think so and that happened and that was something else and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so
[speaker002:] so I'm I'm I think on the scale at the one end you know
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] I'd I'd be close to the eight nine and ten area
[speaker002:] wait wait I thought I I eight nine ten was no restrictions
[speaker001:] oh I thought ten was the best oh I'm sorry
[speaker002:] whatever whatever we're down at the same end whatever end that is
[speaker001:] heavy duty restrictions that's I feel in favor for because you just can't be handing these things out to anybody
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and and you're getting them sold to people and then they're getting into the wrong hands
[speaker002:] yeah would you somehow get them away from those who already have them
[speaker001:] what's that
[speaker002:] would you somehow disarm those who are already armed
[speaker001:] um yes
[speaker002:] how would you do that
[speaker001:] um do you you know do they don't they have records of the people who own the um guns that were bought isn't there
[speaker002:] in many cases not uh because many cases they're
[speaker001:] yeah I know it
[speaker002:] they're stolen um
[speaker001:] right underground type
[speaker002:] I I have no idea what the statistics are on that but um
[speaker001:] underground type uh selling of guns
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] yeah I don't know how you know it's gonna it's gonna have to happen sometime but it right now there hasn't been a way
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I don't I don't know this for a absolute fact but I have the suspicion that the gun industry that manufactures
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] these things and also those who dealers who sell them are a major force behind the NRA and all these campaigns that that stir people up and try to get them to uh
[speaker001:] um-hum to uh not ban them
[speaker002:] yeah to to to right to oppose them
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] it because they have an economic reason over and above whatever their their private preferences are
[speaker001:] oh sure um-hum yeah it it's a tough thing
[speaker002:] until the thing has to be won on an economic ground too
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] so there has to be some way to compensate those who lose and um
[speaker001:] so that they don't keep you know saying don't ban so um
[speaker002:] yeah right
[speaker001:] yeah it's it's tough I don't know what they're gonna do and you know I there's got to be a way to get them out of the hands of and plus for them to when they do have them to you know they keep them in these areas where their kids can get to them and and hurt so you know and they're young enough they don't even know what they're playing with they're playing with something they saw on TV
[speaker002:] if um-hum
[speaker001:] and uh you know it's it's not safe at all for um the kids in the home even because they don't keep them under lock and key anyway they keep them in their top drawer or
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and then they say well if we unload them then how are we gonna have time to load them