[speaker001:] I you know actually in this modern day and age it seems like uh uh we have more and more leisure time because uh we have so many uh convenience appliances and whatnot and we don't even have to cook dinner anymore uh
[speaker002:] yeah really
[speaker001:] but I uh I've heard I don't know this for a fact but I've heard that a lot of families really don't spend a great deal of time together that kids the kids maybe on the average get uh something like thirty seconds of quality time with the parents
[speaker002:] that's what I've heard too uh
[speaker001:] it seems bizarre to me I don't quite understand it although I think probably the the worst thing that's happening in the world at least the modern world today is television
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] not so much because uh it's bad per se although there is some pretty crappy programming and I think there's also some uh I think um poorer lifestyles illustrated but simply because it dominates so much discussionary time
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] it's so darned easy to turn the thing on
[speaker002:] I know it I've I've found myself sometimes just sit down after work and
[speaker001:] so I refuse to have one in the house yeah
[speaker002:] oh really well good for you good for you a lot of people I've talk to a lot of people about that and I've thought about it myself and I thought about it a lot
[speaker001:] um
[speaker002:] but uh I still haven't done it yet well that's good
[speaker001:] well I'll tell you television sure makes child rearing easy on you I mean the kids can be a real pest uh and turning the TV on is almost like magic you know it's uh like sticking uh an electrode into their pleasure center and you don't have to worry about them
[speaker002:] that's true I've noticed that
[speaker001:] but I don't think it's too good
[speaker002:] I don't think so either
[speaker001:] um so you know I don't know I take advantage I don't have a great deal of time to spend with the kids but I take advantage of um dinner time we always eat together and you know whenever you're with your kids you wanna interact with them rather than just ignore them
[speaker002:] do you keep your kids uh active in sports or anything or
[speaker001:] uh I guess our big outlet is music um our thirteen year old son plays violin and our nine year old daughter plays cello
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] and uh when our son started playing violin I took up violin and when our daughter started playing cello I took up cello so there's plenty of
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] plenty of interactive time in uh practicing although neither kid likes to practice I guess that's not a big surprise
[speaker002:] no not for kids
[speaker001:] but I mean I imagine with infants you are most of your time is sort of spent taking care of them rather than interacting with them
[speaker002:] yeah well I I I try and read to them and
[speaker001:] although you
[speaker002:] and I take them to the park and stuff and
[speaker001:] oh you know reading is so good
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I uh I took great pleasure in reading to my kids when they were little and I still try to read to them although our son is not liking that anymore
[speaker002:] yeah well they get to this stage
[speaker001:] uh but I read you know there's this Doctor Seuss sleep book have you ever seen that yet
[speaker002:] sleep book no
[speaker001:] yeah it's called a sleep book and uh you ought to get it I tell you I read that book to my kids so many times I almost have the thing memorized
[speaker002:] uh we've got a quite a few of Doctor Seuss's books and
[speaker001:] yeah well I think I think his sleep book is my favorite
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] well yeah I like to I like to do it and they enjoy reading and I've actually I never read a lot growing up and I never read until a few years ago I just started picking up books and so it I've found that you know it's really important to me to get to read to I like to get away in a book you know
[speaker001:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker002:] and so I've put a lot more emphasis on that on my kids
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] to try
[speaker001:] so how much time do you think you spend with your kids on the average per each day
[speaker002:] oh I probably spend an hour or two
[speaker001:] oh that's great
[speaker002:] my wife works at night so she does uh Tupperware so she's gone a lot at nights and so I spend a lot of time with them
[speaker001:] oh I see so how old are your kids again
[speaker002:] they're two and one
[speaker001:] two and one
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] yeah so you have your hands full with them that's for sure
[speaker002:] yeah