[speaker001:] well how did you like that topic
[speaker002:] uh I don't know I've got mixed feelings about the topic
[speaker001:] do you I don't
[speaker002:] no okay
[speaker001:] no I'm pretty opinionated about that and many other things as you well know I agree with it I think uh I think a company should be able to test at any any employee anytime they see fit I just I just don't think there's a place in our environment environment you know in the work
[speaker002:] well
[speaker001:] force for drugs or alcohol either
[speaker002:] well I don't believe in drugs or alcohol but if you'll remember when the teachers had to take the TCAT
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] they were talking about drug testing us
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and we were laughing that we'd have to go to that examination to prove we could read and write with a specimen of urine
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and we found it belittling
[speaker001:] you did uh-huh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] well I can sort of understand that uh but not being a teacher as you are you know I I was not quite as sympathetic as you know as I probably would have been if if Kay were a teacher or something
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] but uh
[speaker002:] but then you know at the same token I'm not against because I look at airline pilots
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] bus drivers
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know people that really have other peoples' lives in their hands truck drivers it's supposed to be a huge problem with truck drivers using drugs
[speaker001:] that's right that's right that's that's right and I think it is a big problem with them using drugs from what you read you know but uh
[speaker002:] and alcohol and you know in those areas I really you know do believe that maybe we should clean up our you know house
[speaker001:] yeah I think so too I I agree with it uh I know Kay's company you know they started it couple of years ago and so many of the people even the professional people were boy they were so against them doing that you know and I thought jeez to me it's quite simple uh you either need a job or you don't the the job is what provides all of your needs and uh if they say hey you can't do this work I'd say hey I agree I don't I won't do that and I think most of them have agreed to that now although they didn't like it at first
[speaker002:] yeah I think it's just like anything else a new concept you know as I had said if I have to go to a testing area with my urine specimen I was insulted
[speaker001:] yeah it it it is I can see where you would think yeah that is belittling you know I'd probably feel the same way if I had to do that
[speaker002:] but at the same token in education we can't do drug drug random drug testing on kids
[speaker001:] yeah that's true
[speaker002:] you know I mean their rights are protected
[speaker001:] you bet oh gosh they would they would really raise a stink if that was to happen
[speaker002:] what well but why if you're going to do teachers or professionals why not do the kids when we see them and they're you know under the influence
[speaker001:] right yes I agree with that I I I wouldn't be opposed to it at all it's just our bleeding heart liberals that would fight it tooth tooth and nail you know
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] but uh well Lynn I've enjoyed talking with you I don't know how long we're supposed to carry on a conversation do you
[speaker002:] it's three minutes and the clicker comes in when it's time to
[speaker001:] oh well we'd better keep talking because I've not heard it have we have you heard it
[speaker002:] yeah no
[speaker001:] anyway we both a sort of agree on it don't we about about random testing
[speaker002:] yeah well do we agree or unless it's it's not me you know here we go again I mean
[speaker001:] well you see I yeah yeah if you agree
[speaker002:] yeah you know I believe that truck drivers and people that have even though teachers have other kids lives in their hands and if they come in stoned or they come in drunk
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and there was an incident in my children's high school where a teacher stayed drunk
[speaker001:] is that right
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] you just don't think of that happening with teachers
[speaker002:] and yet
[speaker001:] I really don't I when I think of drug testing I'm thinking of the uh you know outside of education
[speaker002:] uh well no it you know we are as susceptible a society as anybody else
[speaker001:] sure sure I know that but uh you don't think of that first hand normally
[speaker002:] and uh yeah well did you hear on the news where the teacher of the year was up for child molestation
[speaker001:] isn't that
[speaker002:] it was on the news tonight
[speaker001:] isn't that mind boggling goodness it it is it's mind boggling and well you know I agree with you I know teachers are just like everybody else same problems the same uh good qualities as anybody else
[speaker002:] yeah then I think you know if it came push came to shove I'd probably be drug tested
[speaker001:] yeah yeah
[speaker002:] you know because it does you know
[speaker001:] you you think the benefit would be greater than the
[speaker002:] yeah because you know as I say I'm sitting there fussing and fussing and yet I know of you know one teacher who was an alcoholic
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] in school as well as you know I presume out
[speaker001:] and that was in your children's high school isn't that amazing
[speaker002:] um-hum and you know my children brought it to my attention I never was there to see it
[speaker001:] if it if it's if it was true there I'm sure it's true with just about probably to some degree every school there is
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you know because they represent a pretty good uh
[speaker002:] and that's not giving a good example to students
[speaker001:] no certainly not uh certainly not they don't need that example but