[speaker001:] yeah they just raised our taxes up here about a year ago
[speaker002:] well they've uh statewide raises they raise ours it seems like constantly we just uh passed a new one uh fortunately or unfortunately it doesn't go into effect because we did not get the United Airlines
[speaker001:] oh right Indianapolis got that didn't they
[speaker002:] right and uh we had passed a a provisional one that if if it did if they did locate here we would raise our taxes but uh at least we thought we'd get something back from that
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh how do you feel about taxes
[speaker001:] oh it seems like a big politics game like up here last year the governor's up for reelection so he said the budget was fine and that the state didn't have any money and then right after he won the election he said we owed a lot of money so they raised all our taxes and now it's election time again so they're trying to lower them
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] so they're just talk about lowering them but they never do they just keep raising them
[speaker002:] I've never seen taxes really go down
[speaker001:] yeah me neither well actually they're going to here because they didn't have a budget for so long so they raised the tax rate real high for the last three months of this year and they're gonna lower it for next year
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] I guess they figure they're gonna make up for all they didn't get when they should've had a budget
[speaker002:] I hope they put that in writing
[speaker001:] yeah yeah they say they're gonna lower but I'll see
[speaker002:] I feel like the middle class people are supporting the nation and uh that the rich are not paying their share and of course the poor can't afford it either but uh I really feel like and and I feel like you know I'm a middle class person income incomewise anyway and uh I get tired of supporting the whole country
[speaker001:] yeah so do I I mean I'm a a middle class barely but uh I don't think the rich are paying more let not enough I think they're paying too much
[speaker002:] you think the rich are paying too much
[speaker001:] yeah I mean if you're in the the three three percent bracket and they take a third of your check every month well that's ridiculous why bother working
[speaker002:] well I don't know many rich that don't have enough tax breaks to I mean I'm talking about the really rich
[speaker001:] well they should just tax everybody the same amount no matter what you make
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] that'd be fair
[speaker002:] now I'll go along with that I you know
[speaker001:] yeah no loopholes or anything everybody pays ten percent or fifteen or whatever
[speaker002:] right now I think that would be fair and I you know
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] no no ifs ands and buts you know no big elaborate laws that say uh you know call for a lot of enforcement or a lot of review it's just you know you make this you pay ten percent if you make a hundred dollars you pay ten percent if you make a million dollars you pay ten percent
[speaker001:] yeah that's the way our state tax is here I think it's pretty fair
[speaker002:] our state taxes are somewhat based on the federal
[speaker001:] hm
[speaker002:] and uh they have not gotten it where the withholding is accurate
[speaker001:] oh
[speaker002:] so and and you withhold no matter what you do they withhold what they're supposed to and at the end of the year it's not enough
[speaker001:] oh great so you ought to be saving up some every month to make up for all what they should be taking out
[speaker002:] right so now you know when you sign your W-4 form or whatever W-2 whatever that is then they always say do you want a extra amount for state
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] which is ridiculous but it's been that way for the last probably ten years
[speaker001:] yeah I guess you you have to check yes or you come down to the end of the year and you don't have it to give it to them
[speaker002:] right unless you have a lot of deductions but you know if you have a lot of federal deduction it ends up hurting you statewise
[speaker001:] yeah really
[speaker002:] and you end up owing you know you may get nine hundred dollars back from federal and you're gonna owe fifteen hundred in the state
[speaker001:] ouch
[speaker002:] and uh it's it's just ridiculous but I I don't know I've they just came up with a twenty five percent increase on personal property in in Oklahoma county and that is a chunk
[speaker001:] yeah I'll say
[speaker002:] I mean twenty five percent increase
[speaker001:] yeah