[speaker001:] okay was I supposed to do something
[speaker002:] no I had to press one
[speaker001:] good uh let's see so uh were we right in the Middle East
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] should we have been there
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] did we do what was correct there
[speaker002:] I think we should have stayed longer
[speaker001:] should we have fought them harder used more weapons equal to their chemical weapons that weren't used
[speaker002:] uh I think what we did was good but I think we just should have stayed there longer and continued doing what we did do
[speaker001:] oh you agree with Schwartzkopf who says uh Drive on into Baghdad
[speaker002:] yeah I think we should have stayed and kind of helped the people in Iraq out now because it's kind of like a civil war going on now And it's almost like they're killing each other off and there is not going to be anything left of Iraq at all
[speaker001:] would that be so bad was there anything there to begin with
[speaker002:] well I think I don't think it would be good if we were to completely lose it um
[speaker001:] it wasn't ours
[speaker002:] well no I just mean that that the world in general
[speaker001:] well we've got to talk so it's just just as well we argue
[speaker002:] yeah Um I don't know I think we should have helped the the innocent people in Iraq out a little bit more than rather than just quitting where we did
[speaker001:] I agree wouldn't it have been wonderful if we could have freed the country
[speaker002:] yes But I think that's almost impossible next to impossible
[speaker001:] yeah so other political things that's going on I heard mister Bush say uh excuse me President Bush say that he uh wanted to improve the highways
[speaker002:] oh see I haven't really been keeping up with them so I really don't know what he said what did he say about it
[speaker001:] oh he wanted to take the current secondary highway system and
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] turn it into interstates like the rest of the country
[speaker002:] we don't have the money for that
[speaker001:] but wouldn't it be wonderful
[speaker002:] It would be really nice because I'm kind of tired of driving in pot holes
[speaker001:] and back east you all drive at fifty five don't you what's that oh okay um I say back east you all drive at fifty five don't you see out here in the west
[speaker002:] I'm sorry I dropped the phone yeah
[speaker001:] a lot of our secondary roads are fifty five
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] we drive sixty five oh yes well
[speaker002:] oh really oh really
[speaker001:] I uh last weekend went home to visit my parents my dad's in the hospital and uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] between here and west Texas there was probably three and four hours at sixty five miles an hour
[speaker002:] oh I didn't realize that
[speaker001:] nonstop have you have you ever been out here
[speaker002:] no huh-uh
[speaker001:] how far west have you been
[speaker002:] only in Ohio
[speaker001:] oh you've never
[speaker002:] I've never been past Ohio
[speaker001:] you've never seen the great American desert
[speaker002:] no huh-uh I've never seen anything out I never seen the great I've seen
[speaker001:] the Rocky Mountains
[speaker002:] I've never seen I've seen pictures of it but
[speaker001:] Mountains Yellowstone
[speaker002:] I've never been there I've seen pictures I just I'm a college student and um I'm paying for my own education and I'm I come from a large family and we we we're never able to take vacations because there's there's twelve kids in the family so
[speaker001:] uh  well my college education uh thirty six worked for Texas Instruments for seventeen or eighteen now
[speaker002:] oh my
[speaker001:] uh know virtually nothing else uh yeah I got my four year got my BS in General Science
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] yeah I know it's a funny degree uh anyway uh I know nothing other than the west in fact uh
[speaker002:] really  yeah
[speaker001:] down in east Texas where the company's located there's streams and water and things I don't understand trees and have
[speaker002:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker001:] the gulf and it's really interesting so tell me about where you live
[speaker002:] uh-huh well um I'm I'm originally from Butler and that's about an hour away from where I am now I'm at Clairon And um it's it's pretty like windy and hilly
[speaker001:] uh how high is the highest elevation
[speaker002:] oh I couldn't even tell you
[speaker001:] like uh probably
[speaker002:] it's not like a mountain it wouldn't be like a mountain it's uh
[speaker001:] three thousand foot
[speaker002:] oh I don't even know I have no clue
[speaker001:] close to sea level
[speaker002:] I would say it's closer to sea level
[speaker001:] okay uh right here in Colorado Springs where I live
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] it's over six thousand foot
[speaker002:] oh well see um
[speaker001:] um yes when I lived in Texas every year I had to drive you know I drove every year to the gulf and you know so I could have a feast of fresh seafood
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] six eight twelve hours away
[speaker002:] um
[speaker001:] you know just just for fresh I I'm really interested in the basic concept differences between west and east coast and the central parts of America
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] how many hours have you been from home
[speaker002:] uh the farthest away from home
[speaker001:] yes
[speaker002:] probably I'd say five or six
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh now when I was growing up in the Panhandle of Texas l ook at your map later and see the the town of Amarillo
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] fifty miles north of that up in the Panhandle to just go buy a pair of jeans we'd drive an hour
[speaker002:] oh my oh my gosh
[speaker001:] when I was growing up now things are different and people buy jeans in town but
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh we thought nothing at all of wake up waking up in the morning hopping into your car grabbing fishing poles and driving four hours
[speaker002:] oh yes Now see for me that's a long ways
[speaker001:] yeah it is I imagine
[speaker002:] uh-huh even well like I I'm in like a little town right now it's smaller than Butler and um Butler Butler is about an hour north east of Pittsburgh So that will give you some idea of where I'm at and I'm about
[speaker001:] okay okay I'll look at my map later
[speaker002:] I'm about two hours north east of Pittsburgh
[speaker001:] wow how neat
[speaker002:] and uh I mean just this this little town here is basically a college town the college without the college here this town would be nothing It would be absolutely dead because it's completely made up of fast food restaurants and and in the summer when we come uh my fiancee's family lives up there we come up here in the summer and it's I mean there's just no one around
[speaker001:] so are you working your way through college
[speaker002:] um well I go home in the summer and I work in the summer and between what I make in the summer and student loans that's how I go to college
[speaker001:] well how neat what's your major
[speaker002:] finance
[speaker001:] finance
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] well that's interesting
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so uh what do you plan to do with it
[speaker002:] um well like I said my fiancee
[speaker001:] savings and loans uh
[speaker002:] no No no no um my fiancee works down in D C and I'd actually like to work for a company rather than a bank or a something I'd rather work for a company and um like be their financial advisor or something
[speaker001:] oh that would be great that would be neat let's see uh so we're all excited in Colorado Springs Apple Computer is coming to town
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh really
[speaker001:] yes the uh new employer in in the city
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so we're expecting our local economy to
[speaker002:] take a boom a little bit
[speaker001:] uh maybe not a boom but uh at least recover to where we can all hold regular forty hour jobs still
[speaker002:] well well what would be the unemployment rate out there
[speaker001:] uh unemployment runs approximately six percent
[speaker002:] see that's what it is here too
[speaker001:] but now under employment I would suspect to run closer to eighteen or twenty percent
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and the problem is that there are no good permanent full time jobs for people without a technical four year degree
[speaker002:] yeah It's even getting hard for the four year people to find jobs
[speaker001:] yes it is
[speaker002:] I know people they are out of school for two or three years and they have a job that has nothing to do