[speaker002:] okay um I I guess um you know I really I remember what school was like when I grew up and uh you know back then I believe I really do believe people had more respect for teachers back then
[speaker001:] well that's what I was thinking the discipline just isn't there anymore like it used to be
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and they've lost the teachers have lost control
[speaker002:] yeah I agree and I don't know I you know I think some of that stems with the parents but
[speaker001:] well I think so too
[speaker002:] I I think some of it also stems from just society in general because teachers aren't looked looked upon as uh you know like with as much respect as they use the to be
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] because back then you know if you were a teacher people used to think oh you know that you know that's great and nowadays if you're a teacher it's like oh you had nothing else that you could come up with to do so you decided to go into teaching
[speaker001:] yeah well they didn't used to sue the teachers like they're doing now and that's why why the teachers are in so much trouble
[speaker002:] you know it's like yeah that too that's true that's true
[speaker001:] that's really too bad that the teachers don't have have control over the students like they used to
[speaker002:] yeah that's true yeah my wife's a teacher but she teaches preschool
[speaker001:] and see the um parents used to back up the teachers too they would sit they would tell the kids now you do what your teacher says
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum that's right
[speaker001:] and the teacher would let them know if they weren't doing the right thing and the parents would be right there on the kids but
[speaker002:] that's right and it seems to me like now it's just the opposite in in a in a lot of cases you know the
[speaker001:] that's right that's right parents are behind their kids now and they believe the things that they say about the teachers so
[speaker002:] right um-hum yeah I
[speaker001:] I don't know how they would correct it
[speaker002:] yeah yeah and I also don't believe that you know uh you know physical punishment is is really the answer either uh
[speaker001:] no I don't believe that either
[speaker002:] uh because you know a lot of kids you know they get that at home you know they don't need it at school either they need some other way of
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] of discipline that's you know it's going to uh more or less snap you know snap the child around and and get them you know just just earn some respect
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] you know anybody can beat up on anybody else
[speaker001:] well they should just for the discipline at school they should just uh take away some of their things that they enjoy the most
[speaker002:] yeah yeah I guess it really would I mean doesn't matter what age the the child is you know anywhere from preschool to you know teenagers you know you take away what they what they want and enjoy then they're going to pay attention to you
[speaker001:] right right
[speaker002:] that's true
[speaker001:] I have a sister that's a first grade teacher she teaches first grade
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and she just she thoroughly enjoys the kids she really likes them
[speaker002:] yes yes yeah
[speaker001:] and I'm gonna I'm going back to school I'm gonna start back in January get my teaching certificate I'm gonna teach high school
[speaker002:] ooh you're brave
[speaker001:] I'm gonna be a home economics teacher
[speaker002:] ah you know I I think maybe it might not be too bad of an idea you you I don't know if you've seen the movie where the the principal cracks down on the kids and he says okay let me know who all the trouble makers are and they're out of here and I'm wondering how practical that is to apply to you know to all the schools it's
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I mean I wonder if that would work or not or what kind of alternative they could provide for these you know troubled kids and trouble makers that type of thing
[speaker001:] well you know the main there's a big really another big problem and that's the drop out problem now all the kids are dropping out and I think it's because the parents don't tell them they can't
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah that's right
[speaker001:] parents don't don't um you know the kids say well I don't want to do that anymore and then the parents say well okay whatever you think and that's what that wasn't that way when I was a kid
[speaker002:] yeah that's true
[speaker001:] uh and we'd say why do we have to do that and the parent would say because I told you so and you do what I say see they found they've
[speaker002:] right right
[speaker001:] they've uh lost whoever's supposed to take charge here
[speaker002:] yeah it it's getting to the point where you know where well you know it's kind of with both parents having to work it's really hard to uh
[speaker001:] that has a lot to do with it too uh-huh they can't watch over their kids anymore like they used to
[speaker002:] uh to have the strength yeah yeah and then when mom and dad do give notice at home then you know they're too tired from working all day long they just assume let them do whatever they want and
[speaker001:] neat yeah
[speaker002:] don't bother me I'm tired
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah it's really too bad
[speaker002:] and that doesn't help either that's true
[speaker001:] because it depends on what they do in school as how they're going to do their future things in life
[speaker002:] yeah that's true especially I think at the younger ages uh elementary you know I I think maybe you know I hate to say you know one teacher teaching a certain grade is is higher priority than another teacher but you know so much of of what they experience in their early years
[speaker001:] oh that's right they need the basics too in the education they need that reading and writing
[speaker002:] sets a pattern um-hum um