[speaker001:] okay so what do you uh think is the uh the worst culprit for air pollution
[speaker002:] well I think it's it's probably a combination of things um factories that that burn coal as uh an energy source with uh sulfur and nitrogen contaminants you know and you get sulfur oxides and nitrogen oxides
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh those are the ones I think primarily contribute to acid rain and I think that's that's probably hurting us a little bit it's hurting you know other countries it's hurting Germany for example too and some other parts of Europe where they where they have high industry so we're not the lone ranger here
[speaker001:] yeah well it's I uh it's hard to put the finger on uh what's worse you know the acid rain situation or the ozone depletion um with uh your hydrocarbons uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] causing the damage in which
[speaker002:] hopefully we're backing off from that a little bit but I know we haven't cured it yet by a long shot
[speaker001:] well well I notice on one of these uh home shopping networks they were selling these uh halogen uh fire extinguishers
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and the halogen is uh an ozone depleter and it got hydrocarbons in there it's a very clean uh fire extinguisher but it's you know really bad on the environment
[speaker002:] yeah huh yeah I guess I missed that one uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] automobiles of course are contributing too and you know how how we are with our love affair with the auto
[speaker001:] oh yeah yeah
[speaker002:] kind of hard to do anything about that I guess
[speaker001:] I know uh in the Twin Cities area I just moved out of there and was kind of happy I timed it just right but they had a new policy where in order to get your uh your license uh your car license uh renewed you had to meet the pollution standards
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and uh
[speaker002:] we we have that here too but it's part of the inspection sticker you know they put a probe in your exhaust pipe and and the computer reads whatever the ionization is coming out and
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] so that's you know that's the way they're dealing with it here
[speaker001:] yeah and yeah I guess that was just mainly in the cities there and I as far as where I live I don't have to do that but
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I have an old car which I doubt would uh would uh pass the inspection a seventy six and uh you know there's no way I would put in a lot of money to to repair it to meet standards
[speaker002:] yeah it probably be difficult anyway
[speaker001:] yeah so although I do what I can to to cut down pollution but uh
[speaker002:] I was just reading an article in uh Mother Earth News Mother Earth News Magazine
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and uh they've got a new um you know a lot of places are burning wood a lot of lot of people are burning wood those of us who have I've got a place in the country and uh
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] and uh they've had catalytic converters you know catalytic converters on those on uh I think they're required in California and Oregon and and Washington but they've had out those for quite a while and somebody's come up with a new one that uh sort of it's a it's a catalytic converter it's a catalytic it's a plate that fits in you know into the smoke pipe
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and uh apparently it sort of feeds itself the more smoke is produced uh the you know after you get to like five hundred degrees the the higher it gets so the the more complete the combustion is and it sounds real neat I haven't seen them priced anywhere yet but that that sounds like that might help solve that problem even on you know old old uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] older stoves that don't have any kind of EPA requirements on them that might help a little bit especially in some places we're really lucky here we have a prevailing southerly wind that blows just about everything out
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] now sometimes we get a kind of a especially in in uh autumn it seems like we get a kind of a brown haze sitting on us but most of the time it's blowing out pretty well probably blowing up there to you guys
[speaker001:] yeah yeah well well around here our we get the well depends you know either in the in the winter time it it blows it your way and in the summer time we probably get yours
[speaker002:] yeah it comes back  yeah I really think that um you know we're doing some some important things education uh raising consciousness awareness uh and I know school kids I work for school district here and uh you know this is one of the big things with kids kids are writing letters to the newspapers about you know uh telling adults to clean up their act and
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] it's uh you know it hope we're not too late with it we're we're uh we're having all kinds of recycling
[speaker001:] yeah well it it that's that's a a big thing too I I know it's has nothing do with air pollution but I kind of look at the way people treat our