[speaker001:] do you think do we spend enough on that or
[speaker002:] uh probably not from what I've been hearing I mean there's not enough getting done
[speaker001:] oh yeah uh-huh yeah I just kind of wonder uh you know I've been thinking I don't know how much they spend on cancer and how much they spend on AIDS and some of those other things but it seems like uh you know it needs to be somewhat equitable I guess as far as the number of people that are affected uh cancer seems to affect a lot more people and you'd think they need to spend more on that but
[speaker002:] yeah well you think this AIDS thing has been around since about nineteen eighty and
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I would have thought by now they'd have been a lot more advances
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] in treatment and then again I guess there is I mean there's some drugs that they didn't have and
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I'm sure that didn't come cheap
[speaker001:] yeah that's true it's uh I don't know it's kind of interesting issue you wonder now it's gotten so out of hand that you know it's not just that the homosexual population and stuff like that uh you know it's affected everybody just even if you go to a hospital it's kind of hard to know what to do and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] you really I don't even think they really a decent idea of how many people really have it I
[speaker002:] it's pretty uh
[speaker001:] I would imagine a lot more people have it than they think and
[speaker002:] yeah I keep thinking that myself
[speaker001:] it's kind of a scary
[speaker002:] I I was last year when the war thing was going on and it was over and they said it costed you know like seventy billion or something
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and they said if they had that much money for AIDS research they could have found found a cure
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] so I kind of wondered about that
[speaker001:] yeah wait whether amongst
[speaker002:] to me that's an astronomical amount of money and uh
[speaker001:] yeah seventy
[speaker002:] and uh but it suddenly comes from somewhere I don't know where it comes from but
[speaker001:] yeah and you just wonder I you know I look at kind of now too where we're getting all this people asking us for aid outside the country you know or to support the Soviet Union this that and the other and you know I sometimes wonder if it's not time we started you know maybe turning some of that stuff back towards home and helping some of those problems and you know AIDS being one of them to
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] I think didn't the President put I don't know if it was a billion or so more dollars or something in the budget this well I guess it was in ninety one to try and find a cure for it or
[speaker002:] there again that doesn't seem like a whole lot of money
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] you know if to do something like that with
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] uh but I I kind of agree with you we should spend more in this country for not only AIDS but a lot of other things before we start helping other countries
[speaker001:] yeah yeah it's kind of kind of ironic ourselves we're on the down trend and here we are trying to still pick other people up and
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] seems like that's all we ever do and it comes back to haunt us in the long run
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but
[speaker002:] I mean in in in your own financial budget if if you're not doing well you're not going to help out anyone else
[speaker001:] yeah yeah that's true I mean that you might that you want to try and be charitable but yet you got to take care of your own house and put your own house in order before you start dishing out to everybody else and
[speaker002:] but but that's not the way this country is or ever been I think we've always
[speaker001:] yeah I
[speaker002:] they had reasons for it I think I heard one just the other day that because of all the money he was you know giving away right now uh the president was I think his wife said something with well we've got to keep these countries in a democratic mode and
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] uh sometimes I don't think it matters
[speaker001:] no and and yeah I I I agree that just and and like I say what do we really get out of it a lot of times you know I guess if we didn't help the Soviet Union there could be just total chaos and go back to the old order but you know we're either paying for it in weapons and arms or we're paying we're giving it to them for nothing you know
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and then we you know at least we have jobs when we're making all the weapons and stuff it seemed like and now we don't even have those because we cut back so much and then we give it away and you just wonder what we really get out of it
[speaker002:] my wife and I used to work at a research laboratory for the government
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and I know things go slow
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] an incredible amount of money is spent to achieve little or nothing sometimes
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] so I understand you know where the money gets ate up at and but there really should just be more
[speaker001:] more money spent
[speaker002:] and now that yeah and now that they're you know the weapon spending is going down
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] but we could put some of these laboratories even like the one we worked at at Los Alamos put them onto you know more AIDS things
[speaker001:] uh-huh yeah well uh do you know that much about I mean have you ever met anybody that has AIDS or
[speaker002:] not that I know of
[speaker001:] yeah I've never met anybody myself but
[speaker002:] I think that where we used to live we had a neighbor down the street and I heard a rumor that one of them died with AIDS
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh
[speaker002:] but I never knew for sure I met them once or twice because they used to sell plants in the yard but
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] I never really considered that I knew them so
[speaker001:] yeah just more passing but
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] yeah I just I haven't had anything strike home so it really hasn't hit me as bad as some you know you tend to sometimes wonder well hey you know you kind of brought it on yourself but like I say now it's getting so much more in into society that people that you know have no intention of doing anything you know kind of end up with it and you know little kids and stuff like that that
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] that is it's and I say I don't have any idea how much and there ought to be probably a lot more spent to to find out I just I just hope they kind of keep things in perspective and remember there's a bunch of other you know type diseases out there it seems you hear a lot more about the AIDS activists than you do these other people with these other diseases and
[speaker002:] actually