[speaker001:] ah I guess my personal opinion I I don't mind paying taxes necessarily I I just sometimes wonder if our money's being used in the best way
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] ah sometimes when I hear what what they're even what even what the politicians are making you know when when they're getting a hundred and fifty thousand plus benefits and that ah I think that's just a bit too much to be paying them ah and that's all tax money when you figure out how many politicians and each one getting that much it's just billions of dollars that's I think is just being thrown away
[speaker002:] right right and then when you read about that they're spending all the money on you know these studies that have no relevance whatsoever that kind of ticks you off too but uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] somebody somebody was telling me the other day that they heard some senator say that what we're paying it's not that we mind paying taxes it's that we're paying too much for a lousy government
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] and I I I tend to agree with that I'm not really into
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] what they're doing per se and I think there's just too many too many levels of bureaucracy
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I think it can be can be managed by by less ah less levels
[speaker001:] yeah yeah well I I know anytime there's there's a big uh uh budget cut you know I work with the state and anytime there's there is a budget cut or crunches it's always the small guy that that gets hurt
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] it's never the uh the person that's making a hundred thousand there it's always the person that's making the least amount and
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] ah and and sometimes we're running around there I see these these ah ah supervisors running around ah having meetings I I really don't know what they do I sometimes wonder are are they really doing anything or
[speaker002:] right right well I think we're gonna see a streamlining in the government I just you know I I don't know what kind of uh I don't know what what level or what how long it will take for you know our country to start the public in general to start saying hey this is too much we're not gonna pay anymore you know we're not gonna pay for this and you're out you know I think we're starting to see it a little bit now but I think uh I don't know what what kind of input we're gonna get from the public and how they're gonna go about doing it because I think I think we're just getting taxed way too much I mean right now we're getting taxed probably
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] probably around thirty five percent or more and that's that's you know that's me not making a whole lot of money
[speaker001:] yeah well they got so many hidden taxes that it's really hard to figure out how much you are paying because go to a grocery store or something like that and you're paying a little tax here and you
[speaker002:] well right
[speaker001:] so yeah gas I don't know about you guys I but there's probably at least about twenty five to to thirty cents of different taxes on on our gas
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] and you don't realize it
[speaker002:] yeah we got a sales tax our sales tax is like eight percent and I don't know what our gas tax is I think it's somewhere around twenty five cents a gallon
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] so I mean they're hitting us up and they may not they may not raise it you know federally as much one year but then they'll raise it somewhere in the state or the or the sales tax or property tax or whatever it's just I mean you can see that you're money is just not going that far
[speaker001:] yeah well I know they say like with Reagan they say no new taxes but they changed the ah deductions on you and that just raises your taxes you know they just get it a different way
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] so I mean to me it did uh raise my taxes
[speaker002:] right well I mean you can tell just by just by how much money you have left over and all of a sudden I don't know it's just it's eating me alive
[speaker001:] yeah I I heard someone say that uh if they would just something about uh with the uh the defense budget all that extra money they're throwing back if they cut back by so much percentage it could throw back about six hundred dollars on an average six hundred dollars