[speaker001:] well I think we pay too much in taxes how about you
[speaker002:] yeah well I think they waste what we pay
[speaker001:] excuse me
[speaker002:] I think they waste what what all the money that we pay
[speaker001:] yeah that's what I think too I don't know how you feel um we moved here from another state we've lived here before went out and came back and that particular state had an occupational income tax but no sales tax
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and what you find out is there's one evil's the same as the other here you don't there's no occupational tax but it's a heavy sales tax so they get you coming and going
[speaker002:] um-hum no it's even it's even higher in Dallas County so was it
[speaker001:] yeah its really I know it's just um
[speaker002:] eight and a quarter I think
[speaker001:] yeah it is I was shocked I went we bought a new washer and the man said and that's eight percent I said eight percent what so it's really kind of sad yeah
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and then I don't know how you know in terms of when you all do your federal but it just seems like if you're strictly middle income it seems like you get hit the worst
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] is that what you think
[speaker002:] yeah because it different at some point it goes up to thirty three percent and then the people that make you know five hundred thousand dollars and and and higher than that they don't have to pay sometimes they have to pay even less taxes
[speaker001:] um-hum doesn't seem quite fair does it because they have the money to shelter things and I don't know somehow get a huh
[speaker002:] no it isn't what
[speaker001:] oh I thought you were going to say something they somehow seem to get around the the things that we can't you know that make don't make that kind of money
[speaker002:] no right
[speaker001:] I don't know
[speaker002:] I mean if they're in business and and they're making money I I could see if they're losing money but they're making money then they should pay taxes then
[speaker001:] um-hum I know and just somehow it doesn't seem you know and and they're not you mean you look at somebody like uh that country singer uh what's his name Willie Nelson
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] I was reading about him in the paper and I said well you know he knew he was making money somebody he didn't look that stupid why didn't he pay his taxes you know
[speaker002:] right um-hum
[speaker001:] in a way it's almost like he had so much debt that uh filing bankruptcy was a way to get out of all of it you know so
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] do you file federal or a joint income tax or do you
[speaker002:] I just file federal income tax every year
[speaker001:] and do you feel like you get hit by you know too much
[speaker002:] yeah I just got divorced so I'm single again so and you know it's it's it's a lot worse for single people because they pay the same amount as as the people that make the same amount of money and they're married that
[speaker001:] um-hum and we right now we don't own any property we lease so we're in the same we don't have children so we're in the same kind of it's not as bad as being single and divorced but it's sort of like if you have like X point five children and own you know
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] you kind of get hit with you know I I mean it doesn't even pay for me to earn a good wage because and that sounds stupid but I mean there's actually less tax implication if I don't work full time compared to what my husband does you know
[speaker002:] um-hum right
[speaker001:] so it's kind of hard
[speaker002:] whoever works less they get a tax credit for that
[speaker001:] excuse me
[speaker002:] if both of the both of the spouses work then you get a tax credit for that um-hum
[speaker001:] uh-huh right yeah otherwise you're just you know and if you have kids you get like seven hundred fifty dollars or something
[speaker002:] well it's two thousand now yeah for everybody
[speaker001:] oh it is oh oh my well that's not too bad
[speaker002:] um-hum then you get a you get a child care exemption but it's not enough you know I mean you pay from fifty to a hundred dollars a week in child care and and they only give you like
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] well I think it's about five or ten percent of that you know it doesn't even it's not even
[speaker001:] oh my goodness yeah I guess that's my call I guess I better go
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] okay well it was nice talking to you uh-huh bye-bye
[speaker002:] nice talking to you bye-bye