[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] All right.
[speaker001:] Um, I, I understand that it's being proposed as a requirement,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] for, uh, young people to be, to go into public service. I think,
[speaker002:] Yes, all, all young Americans, they did not specify, you know, exactly what young means.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah. I think that it probably would be a, a good program. I think probably two years is too long.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I think maybe a year would be,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] the longest.
[speaker002:] Yeah, you're prob-, probably right, two years might be a little too long.
[speaker001:] Yeah, and there will be a lot of rebellion in that and when you get people who have no desire to be there in the first place,
[speaker002:] That's right. That,
[speaker001:] I don't think that they're going to be serving anybody.
[speaker002:] that would be the problem. Sure would.
[speaker001:] Yeah. So I think it would be a good thing though,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] to encourage other people who aren't even aware that they can do such a thing.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] to get out there and do so.
[speaker002:] Yeah, or maybe offer them, you know, some sort of an incentive to do it.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Uh, you know college credit, you know, something, you know,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] I'm not sure what but,
[speaker001:] Right. College credit is a good idea because,
[speaker002:] I'm not sure they need to be, you know, paid, you know, a super do salary of any kind.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] but that, that kind of takes away from public service.
[speaker001:] That's right [LAUGHTER]. Yeah, they probably couldn't do anything monetary, but I think, giving,
[speaker002:] But, just, you know, to receive a letter in the mail,
[speaker001:] giving some kind of college credit,
[speaker002:] that says, you know, you need to report somewhere by next Monday, you know you need to report somewhere by next Monday, you know. I'm not sure that would be a terrifically good idea.
[speaker001:] No, I don't think so either because a lot of people, um, depending on how the public service programs are set up and I'm not that familiar with them to know,
[speaker002:] I'm not either really.
[speaker001:] But, you know, if, a, a lot of people flat can't afford to.
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] You know,
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] and most kids these days have gotten themselves into, uh, financial situations,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] where they have to be working all the time.
[speaker002:] That's right. Absolutely. They need, you-,
[speaker001:] So, it's, it's a really tough question.
[speaker002:] young families, whatever,
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] they just couldn't, you know, take off to do that.
[speaker001:] Yeah,
[speaker002:] Oh,
[speaker001:] and, if you put them in public service right out of high school, then that, that postpones their college,
[speaker002:] That's right, uh-huh.
[speaker001:] for a year and that would upset a lot of people too,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh, it sure would.
[speaker001:] because they just want to get on,
[speaker002:] It would have to be a lot of, you know, thought given to something like that, I would think.
[speaker001:] Yeah. I, you know, I think it would be good for a lot of people to get involved in that kind of program,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] but I, I think it can't be something that's mandatory.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker001:] it has to be something that's voluntary. You know, which is pretty much the way it is now. They might,
[speaker002:] That's right. I'm not even really sure at this point in time, you know, what, what programs are out there.
[speaker001:] Yeah, and that's the other thing is that, you know, instead of making it mandatory, they maybe need to publicize it a little bit better.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, uh, you know, go to the schools and do programs,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and tell them that we need your help, and,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] you know, uh, volunteer for such and such a time,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and you've a choice of where you want to go.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] and, and that way, handling it that way they could probably get some results out of it.
[speaker002:] Yeah, like maybe if, if there was something they could do in their own, own, in their own town or city,
[speaker001:] Yeah, in their own community, right.
[speaker002:] yeah, and not have to pull up roots and, you know, go somewhere half way around the world, or something.
[speaker001:] Yeah, that's true [LAUGHTER]. Most of them probably wouldn't do something like that.
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] Although there are a lot of kids who would do it just to get away from their parents [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah, that's, that's true too. That's true too.
[speaker001:] But, they would have to be supported in some way, and I'm not sure that tho-, those programs are available to do that.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah. Me neither. And, you wonder, you know, what kind of quality job would they do, you know,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] Just sit around for their year, or would they really, you know, make a contribution of some kind.
[speaker001:] Right, exactly.
[speaker002:] Yeah, it's tough. It's tough.
[speaker001:] Yeah, it is tough. It's, and I don't know who's even proposing it,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] or, or how they plan on implementing it,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] if they do.
[speaker002:] I, I'm not sure either. But, I think, there would have to be a lot more, you know, information, you know, disseminated, before you say,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] let's do this, you know.
[speaker001:] Yeah. I think going to the schools would be the easiest for them.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] You know, it be, it wouldn't take up much, much, it would take up more time than anything but it wouldn't take up a lot of money.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] They wouldn't have to spend money advertising and things like that.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That's right.
[speaker001:] You go to school and you have a kind of a captive audience, get them all in the auditorium,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] and you, you give them your speech and maybe a little slide show or something,
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, I think, that they could get some results from that,
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] because there are a lot of people who are volunteer and community minded, but they don't know where to go to, to,
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] to do anything.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That's a real waste too. It really is.
[speaker001:] Yeah, it is. It really is.
[speaker002:] I don't really see the emphasis on things like Peace Corps, like we, you know, we saw back, I guess, in the Carter administration,
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] that was, that was a big thing with him.
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker002:] And, I guess even back to Kennedy, as a matter of fact, I guess Kennedy may be the one that actually started the thing, or was, you know, really interested in things like that.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] I just don't hear much about it anymore. Like I say, I don't even know what programs are, are even ongoing now, you know.
[speaker001:] I don't either [LAUGHTER]. That's one,
[speaker002:] Anyway, it's a tough question.
[speaker001:] Yeah, it is a tough question.
[speaker002:] Okay, well thanks for your time. I enjoyed talking to you.
[speaker001:] Sure, same here.
[speaker002:] Okay, take care.
[speaker001:] Ta-, you too.
[speaker002:] Bye-bye.
[speaker001:] Bye.