[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] um now the term personal computer uh I don't happen to have one at home um but I do have a personal computer on my desk here
[speaker001:] a type of work station
[speaker002:] yeah uh yeah just kind of it's kind of a kluge that was pieced together to to uh shall we say bypass the formal procurement process and uh it it works just fine it says it's a monochrome monitor Panasonic printer uh no big deal it it does the things I need for it to do
[speaker001:] is it a two eighty six or three eighty six base machine
[speaker002:] no it's not even that
[speaker001:] it's eighty eighty eight
[speaker002:] uh I think that's about where it is
[speaker001:] okay uh what type of uh utilizations do you make of it word processing obviously
[speaker002:] uh yeah I do that I I do uh some Lotus on it uh do some uh Samna some uh PFM uh nothing extremely complex
[speaker001:] okay uh I use them both here at work and at home
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and I have IBM clones in both cases
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] here at work I have the TI one thousand which is a three eighty six base machine machine
[speaker002:] oh yeah I bet that's a pretty nice setup
[speaker001:] yes it is uh unfortunately I need all of it
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] uh for example I was messing around with a spreadsheet this weekend that's a third of a meg in beta size
[speaker002:] wow
[speaker001:] and that I know that uh brings an eighty eighty eight machine to it's knees because I had taken it over from a friend who was working on it and he had a two eighty six machine and it brought it to it's knees
[speaker002:] yep wow
[speaker001:] just in the ability to handle and then I have uh a three eighty six FX a sixteen bit machine
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] at home and I'm really pleased with it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] it manages to take care of all my home needs in terms of word processing and spreadsheets and uh databases database searches
[speaker002:] sure uh-huh
[speaker001:] uh what I've gotten into more recently are the tools to use them have you
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] to try to make them more effective and useful
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] have you been uh struggling along those lines
[speaker002:] well um I seem to always be in the the next to the last generation of word processing software when everyone was in Samna I was still in PFM and now that I finally become proficient in Samna everybody's going to WordPerfect so I can never quite stay current with that
[speaker001:] well I think you will be real pleased to get away from the banana as I used to call it it's uh I used it on uh some other machines in days gone by and was real pleased to leave it it was a real memory hog when you started making large block changes to it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] the at least the version I had tended to keep copies of that
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] of what you were changing and deleting off in memory until all of all of a sudden you got a disc full error
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] not a fun thing to try to recover from very frustrating
[speaker002:] I can believe I can believe that
[speaker001:] uh but again I've been dealing with large files both data and and otherwise uh that was a engineering spec on B2 you come here with the B level of specs
[speaker002:] no not really I'm not that up on that sort of thing
[speaker001:] well it's just a huge file that tries to describe the requirements of what you're trying to build
[speaker002:] oh okay
[speaker001:] uh to one level down from assistant description
[speaker002:] oh okay okay oh well it sounds like you're pretty much into computers
[speaker001:] well I sure need them uh there's no way that I could begin to process and keep up with the kinds of information or the magnitude of information that I need to to try to do my job without them
[speaker002:] I can believe that well it's it's been interesting
[speaker001:] yes uh maybe you'll play around some and figure out how they can help you do different things I think that's when you you start deciding that you really need greater assets than you already have when you start seeing what all they can do for you
[speaker002:] yeah of course needs and wants aren't necessarily the same thing
[speaker001:] well I understand that you know if needs and wants were the same I'd have a four eighty six machine at home
[speaker002:] oh it is is that the newest thing now the four eighty six
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] that that must be a fairly recent release
[speaker001:] uh that's came out around the first of the year
[speaker002:] okay okay because I I had done capital packages for two eighty sixes and three eighty sixes but I didn't know they had a four eighty six just yet
[speaker001:] it does a few more things uh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] than had been available before
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but I'm not sure that it's such a massive improvement uh you know once you get passed thirty three megahertz all help is kind of lost in the in the translation
[speaker002:] sure
[speaker001:] because you no longer can think that fast anyway
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] well okay I enjoyed our discussion
[speaker002:] I did too and you have a good day
[speaker001:] you do the same
[speaker002:] bye-bye
[speaker001:] bye