[speaker001:] regarding uh taxes I'm you know taxes are really a necessary evil in in a civilized society but really people get upset at taxes because you it's more efficient to do things yourself
[speaker002:] right hm
[speaker001:] and uh and so as as a result uh you know it's it's a trade-off you know for the common good you know for for the benefit of others you know how much of your resource should you dedicate to uh making things work for others have you uh you know ever thought you know just how much of that money should should go to other people that really don't deserve it
[speaker002:] uh well yeah I know it's it's a lot you know that uh that I feel like you know just like you said that there's just so much that you can do yourself that you take care of your own self that you don't need the money for but they're giving it to other people that don't really need it either either but yet they accept it
[speaker001:] well the thing of it is if I wanted to just uh you know permanently become a book reader I guess I could just uh you know uh go on public assistance uh you know look look look for uh look for people to uh take care of me and uh probably a good woman right
[speaker002:] like so many people do uh-huh right
[speaker001:] just you know just just con somebody to take care of me and and then you don't have to be on the tax roll
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] but uh but taxes are are very difficult kind of thing and everybody everybody really hates it it was very timely I I I always over pay my my deductions so I wind up with my getting money back on my uh from my uh withholding
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so uh you know that that's always a smile but of course you know I've I've paid it in and I should calculate it better
[speaker002:] you are you in business for yourself
[speaker001:] no no I I I I work for the FBI
[speaker002:] okay I see
[speaker001:] so I I'm a federal employee yeah guess I don't sound like it huh
[speaker002:] right uh well I think I no I think that people that work for the government are just as against taxes as as everybody else you know most of them unless you work for Internal Revenue
[speaker001:] yeah I've blown yeah oh I I've got all four feet in a trough you know being a federal employee and and and so but but I can understand that uh that you know the uh who gets benefits like every every time there is a a bond issue
[speaker002:] yeah um-hum
[speaker001:] you know I vote no on every one of them
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] I'm I but this this is this is tax not tax revolt country I mean there's too many every one of us most of us have our have all four feet in the trough you know plus our snout right up to our ears
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so you know it's not exactly that kind of a place that that that you wanna you know get into a tax revolt situation
[speaker002:] right
[speaker001:] but uh um the um the local taxes here I I in in this particular area um you know I've uh I think I pay about uh oh thirty five hundred for for taxes on my four bedroom house you know and which is a lot of money and and uh and so as as people get older and older uh you know they think about retirement and that sort of thing and
[speaker002:] right um-hum
[speaker001:] and they they're building old peoples homes uh you know at tax expense sell I think you know the old people ought to just bail out of here and go where it's cheaper at thirty three hundred dollars at or thirty five hundred dollars I'm paying in taxes why I I I could go down to Bulverde and probably rent a rent a house for that right
[speaker002:] yeah that's right for
[speaker001:] you know instead instead it's it's the taxes here so course I don't know whether I wanna go to Bulverde or not
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] yeah or Seguin or someplace like that
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] but uh there's certainly lots of inexpensive places where the services are poorer and and I think really the only place you can really reduce the amount of taxes you pay is to move to an area where the services are poorer if you're not gonna use them then you wanna be in in an environment that's a strategy I think that that the people have to have to take is is how to be able to to lessen their cost of living you know and I'm I'm five six away years before I'm eligible to retire and and I'm saying well you know I really can't stay here uh as a retiree it's too expensive
[speaker002:] after you retire yeah yeah
[speaker001:] yeah I'm gonna have go out in and you know in you know East Fork someplace and and do my thing you know
[speaker002:] right oh my parents are in the same situation you know they their home is paid for but still their taxes are so high that you know my father doesn't feel like he can retire because they couldn't pay the taxes and they have no children in school or you know anything now they don't use any of those services that a lot of the taxes go towards
[speaker001:] right they they redecorated in nineteen seventy five you know and they're not doing it again again you know so well it's certainly uh uh you must be a TI employee
[speaker002:] uh yeah yeah  you must be what
[speaker001:] you must be a TI employee
[speaker002:] no I'm not no I I don't work I'm a student I go to school I'm in nursing school
[speaker001:] you're not a TI employee who do you work for you're