[speaker002:] okay well you you start it
[speaker001:] well I feel that women have in the roles that they've played they've uh they used to be at home all the time with the children and now most of them work out of the home because it takes two incomes to make it
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] these days and um they just uh they there's more women than men now and they've learned that they have to take care of themselves that they can't depend on a man to support them now
[speaker002:] sure unfortunately what that's done is it's put everybody in a terrible position because it used to be that one person could work whether it a man or a woman
[speaker001:] that's right
[speaker002:] okay now we're in a situation where uh it or at least it seems that maybe it's the economy or maybe it's just uh you know employers taking advantage of the fact that women want to work and now that they've made it or at least seems that like two people have to work in order to uh in order to afford to live you know but uh I think it's it's great I mean my wife works uh
[speaker001:] makes end meet uh-huh well it's really too bad they and because the women are so underpaid and there're so many sole supporters that are women now
[speaker002:] yeah it's true it's true what they say like women get sixty seven cents to the dollar
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] that men make doing the same job that's that's terrible but I I think that'll change too
[speaker001:] well see in my days when I was a teenager my I wanted to go to school my mother said well she didn't want to send me to school I was going to get married anyway she said
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] so that meant that I was going to get married and a man was going to work and take care of me but you don't think that way now
[speaker002:] no that's why now every every woman I know works uh even my mother who didn't work for a while is back working now
[speaker001:] uh-huh um-hum
[speaker002:] um except with the few exceptions of people that are unemployed which is unfortunate lately um every woman I know works my wife took some time off after we had our uh child our first child
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but even that she's planned on getting work which good for her is she works in a profession that she could get work at home so she's going to
[speaker001:] oh well that's good that's really good
[speaker002:] so we don't have to do the yeah she's an editor so she gets to do that and my sister
[speaker001:] she's a what
[speaker002:] an editor
[speaker001:] oh an editor
[speaker002:] like in publishing yeah
[speaker001:] oh that's really good she can do that at home
[speaker002:] she could do that at home so that's good
[speaker001:] yeah I wish they could come up with more jobs for women to stay home with their younger children
[speaker002:] yeah I think that's the dilemma unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately my wife is in a profession that is uh relatively high amount of women in in publishing
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh and it just so happens or maybe doesn't so happen that it's not a very high paying field now maybe that's because there's a lot of women in it like you're saying women are underpaid uh the amount of money that she was making didn't didn't make it worth her while to uh you know
[speaker001:] yeah well pay a babysitter and
[speaker002:] not be home pay for a babysitter or day care
[speaker001:] uh-huh um-hum
[speaker002:] uh you know say that and and on top of the fact that
[speaker001:] um-hum plus the clothing she has to have to wear
[speaker002:] sure sure that on top of the fact that that uh uh she can do some work at home that that it makes it makes it a perfect fit but
[speaker001:] well that may be a thing for the future the computers now that they're trying to stress that for women to
[speaker002:] yeah or to have
[speaker001:] so women can stay home and work on computers
[speaker002:] or or have day care at the work place one or the other
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] uh but unfortunate it's like that's not doing too well I know a lot of lot of lot of times it's the opposite though a lot of times um men stay home and the women women go to work which I think is good if you're not breast feeding
[speaker001:] that's not I haven't found anybody like that I've heard of that but I haven't met anyone like that
[speaker002:] yeah no I I I've known a few people and I've read uh about others you know just like articles and stuff about other people doing it I certainly would do it uh I have no problem with that unfortunately I'm paid a lot more than my wife so it wouldn't be worth it
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] um for our family but I
[speaker001:] well how do you think women's roles are going to change in the future
[speaker002:] um well I think as as time as time goes on women will um definitely have a better better better role in the work place I think that you know the first wave of women in the work place in any substantial degree was in you know like in the seventies and eighties
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and I think as women take on um roles of uh more importance in in jobs and and also again not to sounds I don't want to sound like you know like I like I think it's hard but I mean a lot of times women were given jobs because they were women you know and I think once once it evens out so that women get the jobs that they deserve and get the pay that they deserve which will often be
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] powerful positions where there will be less discrimination in hiring when they hopefully when they hire
[speaker001:] well see I in the past I could understand why men got paid more than women because they were the they called them the bread winners and they'd support the whole family
[speaker002:] you know yeah but that's
[speaker001:] but that's not the case now
[speaker002:] that's why not the case
[speaker001:] so I that's why I don't think that they should get paid more than the woman if they're
[speaker002:] sudden
[speaker001:] doing the same job
[speaker002:] why would it be fair earlier I mean you know