[speaker001:] okay I guess our topic is um advice about going to college do you have children of your own
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh no I don't have any children but I'm still going to college uh-huh NC State
[speaker001:] oh are you what school are you going to oh are you enjoying it
[speaker002:] um well it's a lot of work
[speaker001:] are you working on your um
[speaker002:] my Bachelor's uh-huh
[speaker001:] Bachelor's degree and what field of study are you in
[speaker002:] um it's actually in computer science and I have a special interest in Voice IO
[speaker001:] uh-huh oh well that's neat are you from North Carolina
[speaker002:] no I'm actually from Amarillo Texas originally
[speaker001:] oh are you really oh
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] well what took you to North Carolina
[speaker002:] um the service
[speaker001:] oh I see
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] well that was one of the things I was thinking about in school um when I went to Texas Tech out in Lubbock
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and uh I had a friend my roommate went to Tech also but she was from New Mexico
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and she had to pay out of state tuition and I think that would have uh played a real big part in my decision
[speaker002:] ooh it would have played a major part in mine
[speaker001:] yeah because um she was paying of course back then it was so much cheaper than it is now it was like four dollars a semester hour
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and so I was going to school for you know just a few hundred dollars a semester and she was paying forty dollars an hour so she's paying ten times as much because she was out of state
[speaker002:] golly yeah luckily I've paid in state tuition the whole time
[speaker001:] oh that's good yeah so I think that would be one thing I would definitely consider try to find a school within the state that um I liked well enough to attend
[speaker002:] um-hum um uh-huh the second thing is some colleges only offer the uh Liberal Arts
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh whereas like State they offer engineering courses
[speaker001:] right yeah
[speaker002:] so depending on what your major is or medical you might want to atteck somewhere um attend somewhere like Tech
[speaker001:] yeah right
[speaker002:] and um aside from the uh well some schools may even give you financial aid where another one won't
[speaker001:] yeah that's true that was something else I had was I had government aid of course but uh it was wonderful because I got one of those grants that you don't have to repay
[speaker002:] oh really
[speaker001:] and yeah it was so nice it paid most of my tuition and um a lot of the book costs and that kind of thing so yeah I really
[speaker002:] hm wow that's great was it a Pell grant
[speaker001:] I'm sorry what did you say
[speaker002:] what kind of grant was it
[speaker001:] well it was called a BEOG a Basic Equal Opportunity Grant and it was from the government and it was based at first it was based on my parents' income my parents had five children and really didn't make enough money to
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] send any of us to school and so uh because based on the number of children and the amount of money uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] my father brought in I got a small grant but then after that I was on my own working and you know trying to go to school on my own
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] so then I got a real big grant because the amount of money I was making really didn't compare
[speaker002:] wow uh-huh
[speaker001:] so it was kind of nice I don't know if those are still available or not but
[speaker002:] hm uh I'm not quite there's there's a lot of different organizations who uh who do give grants but uh I'm not exactly sure which ones they are and how how much that they you know they generally run
[speaker001:] yeah yeah well this was great it was just based on you know how much your tuition costs and everything and generally it paid everything so I went to school about three years of my four for almost nothing so that was
[speaker002:] um-hum golly that's great
[speaker001:] yeah it was really nice
[speaker002:] oh another thing I've got a I've got a degree from another college and uh something that might play a part is the size of the college
[speaker001:] uh-huh right
[speaker002:] uh lots the smaller schools can give you a lot uh a lot more specialized instruction and attention than the larger schools in the larger schools you get caught up in the bureaucracy and
[speaker001:] um-hum yeah um-hum
[speaker002:] and they just give you a teacher's assistants you know instead of a scholar you get a TA
[speaker001:] um-hum that's right
[speaker002:] and uh you don't get near the uh quality of education and as well the uh smaller schools often times don't cost as much
[speaker001:] hm I didn't know that
[speaker002:] oh yeah
[speaker001:] well I guess the only comparison I had ever heard was between um a Christian college because I thought about attending Abilene Christian instead of Texas Tech
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum
[speaker001:] and of course the price was just astronomical compared to Tech um the Christian college was so much more expensive
[speaker002:] hm
[speaker001:] but I guess some of the other colleges smaller colleges might might be a lot different
[speaker002:] um oh I at State I think it's just a waste of somebody's money to go there
[speaker001:] really
[speaker002:] it's really a shame because of you know the instruction um I'd rather go to any other college you know in the state and I would definitely get my money's worth uh much better than State
[speaker001:] yeah um-hum yeah huh
[speaker002:] it's kind of unfortunate because they've they've just grown so big that they just don't care about the students anymore
[speaker001:] yeah yeah you're just a number
[speaker002:] yeah they're they're bent on uh seeing how much land how much more land they can get and how much uh how much of the campus they can build up
[speaker001:] um right
[speaker002:] and uh yeah it's really a bad situation here
[speaker001:] yeah  oh that's a shame well I I felt a little cheated at Tech also once I got into my I um major ed in