[speaker002:] yeah uh do do you uh do any work on your own cars
[speaker001:] I uh I used to I don't uh much anymore except just change the oil occasionally
[speaker002:] oh yeah yeah I actually I just uh just recently thought about buying a new car and I went and I saw all the Japanese cars and uh really liked the uh actually the Diamante which is uh sort of the luxury Nissan
[speaker001:] oh yeah
[speaker002:] uh but I I just decided I wasn't gonna get I wasn't first of all I wasn't gonna get a Japanese car that was about the time that uh
[speaker001:] oh yeah that
[speaker002:] you know all the all the sort of antitrade stuff was going on and then uh later decided that uh I'd just hang on to my own car which has about two hundred and eighteen thousand miles on it it's a Chevy Celebrity four cylinder
[speaker001:] oh my goodness that's very good
[speaker002:] and I've driven it since uh grad school and uh just decided you know I think I'll hang on to this car you know it's been so good for me for me all this time so uh in fact I got my wife a a used car that was uh also a Chevy Celebrity because
[speaker001:] you had good luck with that one huh
[speaker002:] you know I've I had good luck and uh I knew enough about all the the basic maintenance you know brakes oil and that kind of stuff to do it myself so
[speaker001:] well that's uh I I'd certainly agree with your with your logic there my uh  uh  feelings about cars are I'd look under the hood and I see all the um all the stuff under there and I say boy my chances of of doing how shall I say it uh everything's electronic uh uh it's not that I'd I mean cancel their time it's just that uh there's so much you know you can't and you can't tune it yourself you can't do anything it's because you don't have the the tools to measure it on on the other hand I'm I I have a
[speaker002:] yeah yeah yeah
[speaker001:] a ninety Honda and uh I'm kind of on the other end of the spectrum I have let's see I have uh twelve thousand miles on a little over a two year old car
[speaker002:] all right
[speaker001:] and uh
[speaker002:] so you don't have any problems with it
[speaker001:] so yeah and it's a it's a absolutely flawless car it uh and it's the smoothest car I've ever ridden I uh ah what's that
[speaker002:] is it an Accord it's an Accord
[speaker001:] Accord yes and uh so the the things that personally if I ever if I had to buy another car uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] huh I'd be the the new American cars uh their ads intrigue me because they think they can catch up uh with uh the Japanese but as far as
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] I I think one of the things that they are going to have to impress me with is is again this uh the thing that impresses you about yours and that's uh frequency of repair and and absolute reliability
[speaker002:] yeah yeah
[speaker001:] because the worst thing that can happen to a person is I think is uh to have to go in and get it fixed you know it's it's
[speaker002:] yep yeah because it just breaks it more
[speaker001:] yeah there's a a that that was I I noticed that uh uh with one of my other cars uh if if there's this kind of uh natural curve of decay you know decay curve uh half the time when you take it in it's farther down the and you get it back it's farther down the curve than when you took it in
[speaker002:] yeah  yeah
[speaker001:] because those guys are they're being paid for uh you know last time I had my car repaired uh even even this car I took it in they said sixty dollars an hour and
[speaker002:] wow that's as much as I make programming
[speaker001:] and well I said sixty dollars an hour
[speaker002:] I mean and I don't even get the sixty I only make I only get the thirty so
[speaker001:] they charged me a hundred and thirty dollars labor but they clocked my car out at an hour after they clocked it in
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] so they they charged me for two and a half you know basically two and a half hours uh labor an hour later and I asked them about that and they said that's uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] oh that's flat rate sir you know that they look it up in the book and if it takes an hour to do something why and they can get it done in thirty minutes why they charge you an hour
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] so anyway those that uh
[speaker002:] in other words there's no there's no benefit for going to a skilled mechanic
[speaker001:] yeah so uh anyway what I'm looking for is is reliability because I wanna keep it away from the from the uh the repair people
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and the other thing I'm I guess I'd be looking for is uh um you know mileage counts with me even though I even though I don't drive that much I I like mileage
[speaker002:] yeah yeah somebody told me uh once the a casual conversation that this guy ran a a towing service
[speaker001:] and uh
[speaker002:] and uh I was telling him about you know I was thinking about buying a car and he said you know I he said he he knew it would sound biased but he said that about uh I don't know four out of five cars that he tows are Japanese cars and he said he just he didn't why you know he'd been in the he'd been in the business for awhile and he wasn't sure maybe it was because people who bought those cars you know would would rather have it towed than try some other thing you know like you know having somebody drag it home with a chain