[speaker001:] so you have three cats
[speaker002:] three cats um I have a Bombay a Turkish Van and a Himalayan Persian
[speaker001:] what type okay I'm trying to I don't know the first two the Himalayans
[speaker002:] a Bombay looks uh I guess the closest thing to describe it to is you have seen the caricatures of Halloween cats
[speaker001:] yeah of course
[speaker002:] that's that's what a Bombay looks like
[speaker001:] those the ones that always look like they're sort of scary okay
[speaker002:] yeah yeah that's what a Bombay looks like especially when they get skinny because they
[speaker001:] uh-huh is yours skinny or is it a tubby one
[speaker002:] yeah she's real skinny she's matter of fact she's uh she's down at the vet today she had her little operation so uh
[speaker001:] um-hum oh so she's young
[speaker002:] yeah she's fairly young we we've bred her once and and that's all we're going to breed her so uh
[speaker001:] uh-huh and how the kittens come out
[speaker002:] oh they're beautiful sold sold them all yeah
[speaker001:] are you keeping them sold them all
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah she was going into heat again and uh she uh she hasn't been eating and just yeah you can't take you can't put up with that moaning very long oh it's awful you know
[speaker001:] oh I guess I've never been around a cat when it was in heat
[speaker002:] uh well you don't know what you're missing
[speaker001:] I'll probably be happy about it
[speaker002:] yeah uh my little prize is the little Himalayan Persian it's uh you know what a himmy a himmy is
[speaker001:] um-hum well a friend of mine I I don't remember what types they have but they're really really fuzzy yeah because I thought she had a Himalayan but I'm not sure
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah they yeah usually they're just called Himalayan this one goes more appropriately by Himalayan Persian because it doesn't have the coloration that a what people think of himmys they're usually more white with a little black they look like they look like off color Persians
[speaker001:] okay
[speaker002:] but this one is almost all black she's black and chocolate and silver
[speaker001:] hum she sounds really pretty
[speaker002:] she is she she's gorgeous she is four months old
[speaker001:] how old is she well she's just a tiny little thing they're adorable at that age too
[speaker002:] hum five and a half pounds she's uh laying right in front of my keyboard here on the desk right now
[speaker001:] wow does she like to sit on top of whatever you're reading and things like that
[speaker002:] oh yeah yeah I was in there trying to do some studying this afternoon and laying down on the sofa and she gets up on my chest where I can't see the book and then if I am in here on the computer she has to get up on the desk
[speaker001:] not on the keyboard my friend's cat gets on the keyboard you know
[speaker002:] oh yes she likes yeah she likes to she likes to type too it's even fun when I'm on CompuServe and I keep getting all these odd key strokes up there
[speaker001:] um-hum that come from her
[speaker002:] yes but she's a sweetheart I'm sorry I didn't mean to wake you up go back to sleep put more put more yeah put more cat hair in my disc drive
[speaker001:] right more peaceful my uh one set of friends have four cats and let's see these four cats two of them are sort of strays I guess
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and then the other two one of which I thought was a Himalayan and the other one I'm not sure but they're both so cute and they are like big fuzz balls and
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] they're almost more like dogs one's name is Malcolm and he sort of follows you from room to room wherever you go and things like that so it's really really cute
[speaker002:] uh I love cats I don't know most people a lot of people don't like cats but
[speaker001:] I didn't until I watched my friend's cats I watched a different friends two cats one of them is really old the other one um also had been like a stray but he's huge and we think part
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] Angora he's he's black
[speaker002:] Angora
[speaker001:] could that be I don't
[speaker002:] yeah long hair
[speaker001:] long haired yeah and
[speaker002:] yeah probably Angora there they're large cat
[speaker001:] yeah he was a real wild one
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and uh but he was fun one time I was cooking chicken and I make taken all the chicken breasts off the bones and I had this whole stack of nice chicken breasts up there and he jumped from the floor probably about four and a half feet high and grabbed one of them off and devoured it before I could get near him
[speaker002:] yeah that sounds that sounds like Kitty Cat our our Bombay she's very athletic um being tall and skinny she can do all kinds of she's very versatile with her paws she's almost like a monkey she even eats with her paws
[speaker001:] really wow
[speaker002:] yeah she'll she'll dip her food or her paw down into the food and scoop up some and eat it from her paw
[speaker001:] have you ever taken videos of her or something that must be fun
[speaker002:] no we're going to uh we're going to catch her doing some some of the funnier things and she's also a retriever the only thing she likes to play with is crumpled cigarette packs so I crumble up a cigarette pack and I throw it and she'll go get it and bring it back to me it's just like having a dog
[speaker001:] huh
[speaker002:] she loves to play fetch and it doesn't matter where I throw it she can get it I've I've thrown it under under the refrigerator and she'll get down there and stick that long skinny paw in there she's very versatile
[speaker001:] um-hum maybe she likes the smell of it
[speaker002:] I don't know I I think she just likes the noise because if I want if I want to find her anywhere in the house all I have to do is crumble a package and she will come running
[speaker001:] that's amazing that's really cute
[speaker002:] yeah she yeah she's she's a sort of a weird one why don't you go back to sleep uh she's up playing now
[speaker001:] now she can maybe she'll type something that you need for you and then you'll be in good shape like a paper
[speaker002:] no now she's now she's just she's just rearranging all my papers for me she's playing with the pen uh-huh why don't you play with the keyboard
[speaker001:] oh when I had the uh cats at my place as soon as I took out the newspaper to read it they would plop right down on top of it and just not move and just stay there forever
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh yeah well Sheba Sheba the himmy loves to play with the paper she uh she gets she likes to crawl inside of it and she thinks she's hiding and nobody can see her and uh she'll jump all over it and tear it to shreds she's something she she's a stubby little thing she's big for her age she got little short legs and great big paws and she's not she's not athletic like Kitty Cat I mean the two of them these two are the favorite playmates the Turkish Van sort of sits off by itself but they love to play and uh
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] Sheba has the weight advantage because she's heavier
[speaker001:] she would just sit on the other one
[speaker002:] oh when I first got her I mean Sheba was just a little tiny thing got her at ten weeks and and Kitty Cat took it upon herself to train her and she and Kitty Cat would jump all over her and beat her up and all you'll hear is Sheba you know all the time well now she's bigger than Kitty Cat and she's giving Kitty Cat some payback
[speaker001:] she be she gets back at kitty cat for all the hassle
[speaker002:] that's right Kitty Cat they'll be playing and Kitty Cat will jump on her and Sheba will just turn around and throw her to the floor get on top of her and you can't do that this week she'll have stitches leave her alone
[speaker001:] oh have you always had cats did yo u have them when you were a kid
[speaker002:] um-hum yeah ever since I was a kid
[speaker001:] my brother was asthmatic and so we never had pets in the house we had a dog for a little bit of the time and then but that time I never really liked cats you know I always thought cats were loose and sort of the typical
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] thing you say about cats you know they don't they don't they're not people animals and things like that and I favored dogs a lot but dogs are just too impractical to have at all
[speaker002:] um-hum um-hum yeah well especially where you are
[speaker001:] oh yeah it's impossible people have them and they're out walking them on the street but I don't think it's fair to the animals
[speaker002:] no not not for dogs especially some of the breeds they've got and some of those you know need to be outside and have places where they can run and all that that's why I like cats so much better they're easy to take care of
[speaker001:] yeah do you let your cats outside
[speaker002:] no no not these these are these are all purebred
[speaker001:] um-hum are you afraid they'd get stolen or run away or
[speaker002:] oh yeah uh stolen run away no I doubt it but I don't want them breeding with any
[speaker001:] well that's for sure but
[speaker002:] yeah with any any weird strange cat around here
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] we're going to be looking for a stud for this one pretty soon
[speaker001:] how old is she again
[speaker002:] she's uh four months right now
[speaker001:] you breed them that young I mean like in a year or
[speaker002:] well no well no we have but you have to line up a stud several months in advance she'll be going into heat probably around uh July or August
[speaker001:] I see but you breed them the first time they go into heat
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] well
[speaker002:] yeah you get your best litter is usually your first one
[speaker001:] really wow that's amazing because I would have thought that it would be better to wait a little bit
[speaker002:] nah so it's sort of an old wife or common folk tales about you know if you're going to have a cat spayed let it go through heat first not true because when they go into heat their uh genetic parts swell up and expand and everything and then once you do take them into surgery it's a little more difficult easier to have them spayed before they even go into heat
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] but but when they first go into heat uh that's the time when you want to breed them especially the purebreds we'll find you a nice handsome stud
[speaker001:] are you going to try and breed her several times or you'll see how the first breeding goes or
[speaker002:] uh probably just twice
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] just twice for her and we're going to end up probably keeping one out of each litter
[speaker001:] how expensive are you know thoroughbred cats to get
[speaker002:] um not too awfully uh uh Sheba Sheba cost us uh two hundred dollars
[speaker001:] you that's not that bad but you certainly want to protect them after that
[speaker002:] oh yeah I mean the the stud fee is worse I mean we're going to be paying probably three to four hundred dollars for a stud
[speaker001:] wow and how much can you sell the litter for you know the same type of price if they're good or
[speaker002:] um-hum uh we're going to breed her with a champion so we'll be able to get uh probably around two fifty for the kittens
[speaker001:] um-hum and how much uh how many kittens do they normally have in the litter
[speaker002:] her first one will probably be about four
[speaker001:] um-hum