[speaker001:] Okay, uh, I guess, we are just supposed to talk about things we do in our spare time.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Uh, I basically read books.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] It is, I do. Sometimes, when everybody's gone to bed, my kids are in bed and my husband in bed, so I will just stay up and finish a book that I am, I have about three books that I am going on. And I will work on one for a little bit, you know, and then the next one. But that's just kind of,
[speaker002:] Well, that is pretty impressive to have three books going.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Not always, just sometimes.
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah. And what what kind of books do you read?
[speaker001:] Uh, just really different ones. Uh, I have one that I was reading on, uh, raising your children and then another one on a, an autobiography, and another one on, uh, uh, uh, like a crime story [children].
[speaker002:] Oh yeah [children].
[speaker001:] A true crime story.
[speaker002:] Oh, do you like those detective stories? [children].
[speaker001:] Yeah. But this, it was a true one. It was just a little different though. [children] Reading that one last night.
[speaker002:] Oh, well that is interesting. Actually, I like to read also, but, uh, usually fall into one or two categories, either true science fiction or fantasy on the one hand or highly technical.
[speaker001:] Yeah, like my husband.
[speaker002:] Yeah [children].
[speaker001:] Yeah [children].
[speaker002:] Yeah, kind of one or the other. Uh,
[speaker001:] You must, uh, work for T I?
[speaker002:] I do. Yes.
[speaker001:] Yeah, my husband does too.
[speaker002:] Yeah, and I am a computer scientist.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] But, I have a lot of other hobbies.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, really.
[speaker002:] Well, yeah, I am kind of, uh, I guess what you would call it, a project person.
[speaker001:] Oh, really.
[speaker002:] Yeah, and I love, like I have a shop and when things break around the house, I always try to fix them myself and so, hobby, it's, it's funny, uh, from the one stand point, it is work. But it is a hobby too, that I enjoy
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] to do. To find broken,
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah. What kinds of things do you fix?
[speaker002:] Well, essentially anything you find in a house. Uh, a stove, or oven or a broken piece of porcelain or, uh, chipped tile on the floor. I mean just anything.
[speaker001:] Oh. And you have a shop?
[speaker002:] Well it, it is not anything elaborate. It is just a work bench and a gazillion tools.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] But, enough that, again for anything in the house I could probably,
[speaker001:] Yeah, you can fix just about everything and anything.
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] Well, that is great.
[speaker002:] And in the car, I guess the car too.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And so, uh, I think I probably would consider that a hobby. Although, sometimes it gets to be excessive.
[speaker001:] Yeah. That is pretty much like my husband. He is, he is pretty, uh, mobile in that area too. He, he works on the cars. He rarely takes them in
[speaker002:] Yeah I,
[speaker001:] and, uh, he works on irons, and all T V -s and stuff too. We rarely have to take those things in too.
[speaker002:] Right. Yeah, I think it, it, not only can it be fun, but it can certainly help your finances.
[speaker001:] Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
[speaker002:] So, do you have any art, uh, how do I say it, creative or artistic hobbies?
[speaker001:] Uh. Not really. I mean during Christmas I work on, you know, like, uh, holiday sweat shirts and those kinds of things.
[speaker002:] Oh yeah, well that's good.
[speaker001:] But, but, uh, not really [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Yeah. Well, I don't necessarily either. I can plink out a song or two on a piano
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] and I can, uh, I don't necessarily draw or do any of that kind of art, I guess
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] uh, graphic arts
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] is that what they call it, I can't do any of that, but sweat shirts is certainly impressive.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh. Uh, I belong to this organization for, uh, if, if you have preschool children
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, uh, every once and a while they will have a craft, uh, section for the moms
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] and those are really neat and we learn to do the, uh, transfer pictures [NOISE] on the sweatshirts
[speaker002:] Oh, yeah.
[speaker001:] transfer photos
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and, uh, those are really neat. So we learn different crafts like that
[speaker002:] I see.
[speaker001:] uh [NOISE],
[speaker002:] Well, that is neat [children].
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I guess you could consider that a hobby. Do you, do you cook for a hobby or do you,
[speaker001:] No [LAUGHTER] I cook dinner [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] That's not something you,
[speaker001:] I don't consider it a hobby [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] I understand that.
[speaker001:] But, uh, you know, I no I am not a real elaborate cook or anything like that unfortunately.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I like to bake off and on. And usually once a week I will bake something, but it's not anything elaborate, you know [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] At least, I don't think it is.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] So,
[speaker002:] But, I think that still borders on hobby.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Probably the other thing I do which [NOISE] I am sure will sound horrible to you, but is I program for fun. Uh, on the computer.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] So, I have little projects [children] little computer projects going on that I consider hobbies.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh.
[speaker002:] But, drive my wife crazy.
[speaker001:] Oh. Well good. You have a computer at home?
[speaker002:] I do, yes.
[speaker001:] Oh, good. Yeah.
[speaker002:] In fact, there is actually several of them here right now.
[speaker001:] Oh, really.
[speaker002:] Not all of them being mine.
[speaker001:] Wow. Then you are busy [children].
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Uh-huh, that is very good.
[speaker002:] Uh, I wonder if you can construe raising children [children] as being a hobby? [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] Well, you know one of the books that I did, that I was reading, and I stopped because it was so, it's the book is so detailed
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] and you have to, sometimes I have to go back and read the page over again cause I didn't quite get it all. And, uh, it is so detailed,