[speaker002:] where in California you live
[speaker001:] uh it's near National it's near uh San Diego it's called National City
[speaker002:] okay I was down that way once but I don't think I remember that is it on the coast
[speaker001:] yeah it's just a little rinky-dink town but most people don't go there it's really not a good neighborhood
[speaker002:] I went all the way down to Imperial Beach once that's far as I went
[speaker001:] yeah it's nicer down there
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] unfortunately I need to be near near the naval base so my choice of living quarters is limited so um are you ready to begin
[speaker002:] yes I guess we're gonna talk about camping is that right
[speaker001:] right okay I'll push the button hang on
[speaker002:] okay
[speaker001:] all right there we go so do you go camping at all
[speaker002:] well yeah my wife and I like to camp um usually just on short trips like a weekend or long weekend and we generally go to uh State or National parks
[speaker001:] yeah my husband and I like going for the long weekends we usually like going up to one of the camping grounds that have a lake near it because we like to fish and camp
[speaker002:] uh-huh yeah well we don't really care for fishing anything that that resembles work uh so we just uh what we do is hike and take pictures that's about all
[speaker001:] yeah I I like hiking unfortunately around here there's not too many spots to do stuff like that
[speaker002:] well Texas has a pretty nice system of state parks we've got um state parks just all over the place on different kinds of terrain and most of them
[speaker001:] yeah I'm from Arizona and they've got a lot of it there too they've also got desert desert uh I don't know what you call it but
[speaker002:] uh
[speaker001:] sites in the desert they have a special name for it
[speaker002:] well Texas has every thing from desert to uh swamp so I don't think they have too many
[speaker001:] I don't think I'd like the swamp but mountains and deserts
[speaker002:] they don't have too many swamps in Arizona I don't think I don't think I've uh seen too many swamps in Arizona
[speaker001:] huh no it's pretty much dry
[speaker002:] now we may do some camping camping in Arizona though I've got uh my uh brother and sister and father all live in Sedonia now Sedonia yeah
[speaker001:] oh really do you know where Mayer's at
[speaker002:] what is it
[speaker001:] Mayer outside Prescott
[speaker002:] Mayer oh yeah uh
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] I I think I remember going through there is that between Prescott and Jerome or over the other way
[speaker001:] over the other way it's actually if you blinked you'd miss it
[speaker002:] uh-huh well it be yeah I think I do remember a little wide place in the road called Mayer well anyway they uh everybody there says that you know there are places you can camp uh right around Sedonia there are
[speaker001:] oh there's a lot of beautiful camping places around Sedonia and they're getting they're getting more of them
[speaker002:] yeah uh-huh
[speaker001:] they're just doing it slowly but surely but um I like the rustic kind of camping
[speaker002:] yeah well we we do we like actually we like to get off uh where there aren't too many people around
[speaker001:] yeah
[speaker002:] we did find a nice uh prospect uh down on the gulf um there's a uh national wildlife wildlife refuge called Urandus I don't know if you've heard of it that's where the whooping cranes go in the winter or at least where a lot of them go
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh there's and island right off that called Matagorda and uh you can take a ferry boat out there and it's uh completely uh pretty much anyway complete wilderness island
[speaker001:] oh that'd be neat
[speaker002:] sort of like a big sand bar you know you wanna make sure there aren't any big storms coming
[speaker001:] really
[speaker002:] but uh then you can uh take a uh take a little bus across the island to the to the gulf side rather than the bay side and uh
[speaker001:] right
[speaker002:] it's really nice out there lots of sea birds
[speaker001:] that sounds like it'd be nice yeah unfortunately my husband and I haven't been able to go camping because I just had two kids two two boys and
[speaker002:] all at once or all at once
[speaker001:] huh well no no I spaced them about a year a part
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but until they get a little bit older we really don't want to take them out camping with us
[speaker002:] that could be difficult I've seen a few people had small babies camping but uh didn't look like any of them were really enjoying the experience very much
[speaker001:] yeah when I go camping I like to get out and hike and do things and when you have little kids you really can't do that very much
[speaker002:] yeah well I sort of like to feel less tied down rather than more tied down when I go camping and
[speaker001:] right that's the object of it you know get out and feel free and do things you don't normally get to do
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] but um yeah we haven't got to go lately but when we go we we're from Arizona so when we go back on vacation next year we'll get to go which should be nice
[speaker002:] well I really like Arizona I like uh uh a couple times this last year I've made it up to Jerome just to enjoy the altitude and everything and it's really neat up there somehow
[speaker001:] it is actually
[speaker002:] I met the town historian