[speaker001:] all right Miss Kathy so uh what do you do do you do it regularly and so forth
[speaker002:] um yeah I do I play basketball on uh a city league and
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] volleyball and how about you
[speaker001:] well uh I have been so busy working I just retired about two weeks ago
[speaker002:] oh congratulations
[speaker001:] thank you my exercise basically has been what walking that I can get in
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] which hasn't really been quite enough but I could very definitely tell the difference when I have two or three hours off and I run around on campus I'm retired from Penn State University
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] and when I have an afternoon to walk around on campus I I very definitely uh see a difference
[speaker002:] huh
[speaker001:] and it it I know that walking is good for you and uh I keep reading that it's much better for you than running because of the uh actions of the joints and so forth
[speaker002:] yeah yep
[speaker001:] but uh tell me about um your exercise did you take your exercise because you had a problem or you just wanted to stay young and light or whatever
[speaker002:] um I do it purely for enjoyment in fact when I've started exercise programs that I felt like I had to do you know a system of doing so many sit ups and that I haven't stuck with it and haven't enjoyed it either one so
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] I decided that I would just stay fit by doing team sports which is what I like more than just individual um whatever
[speaker001:] how many how many hours a week do you estimate that you perform these things
[speaker002:] um probably at least an hour a day
[speaker001:] an hour a day uh-huh
[speaker002:] yeah do and I have four children so that keeps me busy too and they're all involved in sports mostly soccer so we once they're out there I you know I get out there and kick it around with them sometimes
[speaker001:] uh-huh do you ever have time when you don't get this exercise in and notice that your weight goes up or anything like that
[speaker002:] of course of course
[speaker001:] oh it's so you you can tell the difference
[speaker002:] oh yeah not so much with weight as much as just not you know you feel sluggish and you get into that cycle where you don't want to exercise and so you don't and then you the the vicious cycle where
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] where you don't exercise
[speaker001:] I I understand what you're saying well what about eating do you uh do anything about the the type of food you eat is that uh or do you just eat a normal balanced meal to go with that
[speaker002:] yeah I just eat normally I don't regulate you know I'm not real regimented about what
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] what I eat personally its too hard to to get myself on a certain diet having to fix for five other people in the house so
[speaker001:] yeah that that does keep you busy
[speaker002:] yep
[speaker001:] so you well uh
[speaker002:] how about you
[speaker001:] well there're just two of us now my three children have all moved out
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so uh diet wise uh I'm trying to keep us on a low uh weight the low fat type of a diet my wife has high cholesterol
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] so I'm trying to keep that down and and I do notice that when you go through periods uh such as Christmas and so forth where you eat out more often than normal if you don't get the exercise in your weight weight goes up
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] and uh for me exercise is one of the nicest ways of bringing that weight down
[speaker002:] do you do it together with your wife or this mostly by yourself
[speaker001:] and no it's up until now its been mostly by myself because I would have been downtown and as I say walking around on campus picking up mail and and doing things like that and running running downtown uh during my lunch period
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] well it gives me an opportunity to get some walking in and
[speaker002:] yeah I was gonna say you probably get a lot of walking in I know that I when I went to college you know just walking back and forth from different buildings you you have to
[speaker001:] yes do you we have a bicycle in the house uh the kind that you pump you know that you can change the loading and she rides that and that seems to be uh probably other than walking that's probably one of the better things you can do
[speaker002:] uh-huh huh
[speaker001:] have you ever tried one of those
[speaker002:] I haven't I haven't I do I have a bike and you know I usually have a child on the back of it because mine are little
[speaker001:] uh-huh uh-huh well I was thinking with you say you have four children
[speaker002:] uh-huh
[speaker001:] with four children and sometimes there may be times you can't get out to go play you need to stay home that maybe one of these mechanical bicycles would be very helpful to you
[speaker002:] that would be a great yeah it sure would that would be a great idea
[speaker001:] well very good well I wish I could get my weight down I need to get out and get some exercise uh as I say I've just retired so I'm just starting to have a few days to uh approach that subject and I'm considering it I'm going to get on that bicycle that we have and uh start doing some riding and I'm sure that's going to be the quickest way to get things under control
[speaker002:] yeah oh that sounds yeah probably do your kids still live close by you
[speaker001:] no I have one lives in Amsterdam Holland and uh one lives in uh
[speaker002:] oh
[speaker001:] near Warrington Pennsylvania and the other one is in New Jersey
[speaker002:] uh-huh oh they're spread around what did you teach
[speaker001:] so well I I have done research at Penn State I've I've uh not a teacher I've done research in under water acoustics
[speaker002:] oh oh well that yeah well that would be interesting do you study like mammals or just sound
[speaker001:] it's been a noisy subject