[speaker001:] okay I work with uh a lot of students and uh in my uh occupation talking to them about college and going to colleges I think uh
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] the advice that I give to would give to uh parents I've had four sons five sons that have gone to college uh to uh college I think uh one of the main things is that they they choose a local college that uh or university that will go along with their goals as far as what degrees they want to go into and they if they're in the local area they don't have to pay out of state tuition and all of those things and uh
[speaker002:] yeah that's certainly helpful
[speaker001:] and go ahead
[speaker002:] say your last suggestion there about staying within state I realize that there are a lot of schools unless uh uh the student has a real specialty and there oh maybe are one or two universities that are highly respected in that field they really ought to try to stay within their state I mean
[speaker001:] uh-huh
[speaker002:] financing in universities now is getting a very very high
[speaker001:] yes it is
[speaker002:] and they can't help themselves on that either so it certainly is an advantage to stay within your own state
[speaker001:] um-hum uh that that's uh kind of the the advice that I give and then uh they need to take a look at the uh courses uh the courses of study and uh how it would go into their their major minor field uh
[speaker002:] yeah
[speaker001:] what kind of placement uh they have in the particular area you know I had one son who uh went to a smaller college uh to uh went out in the uh premed area
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] but they had an excellent record of placing uh their students in medical schools after they finished the program and he was
[speaker002:] that's very important
[speaker001:] right he got early acceptance to a to medical school after he finished and uh if he would've gone to uh say the state uh it would be the University of Utah if he would've gone there uh I don't know whether he'd got accepted to medical school there or not
[speaker002:] well that was certainly uh good advice to get him to go to a school who follows up and has such a reputation that others are happy to get their students that
[speaker001:] um-hum
[speaker002:] that means that the quality of what he was taught must be very very high
[speaker001:] yes uh
[speaker002:] and that's good for him too regardless of where he works he has uh a top level of information that will last him the rest of his life basically
[speaker001:] um-hum and you you can do this for any of the uh any uh university or or for any of the students that are planning uh take a look at uh their final goals at least hopefully they've got a goal of what area they want to go out in and then uh if it's law school or if it's uh medical or whatever there are different uh colleges and universities usually within the state that uh have a little little better placement record or or getting them into into those higher degree or higher areas of education
[speaker002:] um-hum well we have that same situation here I'm I'm a retired professor at Penn State
[speaker001:] I see uh-huh
[speaker002:] and uh the field I worked in was acoustics and we have an acoustics department here and we have lots of students several hundred I guess in in acoustics and they have an excellent opportunity to follow through on their fields because our university is well known for it's research in addition to uh teaching obviously if we can do
[speaker001:] um-hum you bet
[speaker002:] high class research we must be well trained and and uh available to teach the students well
[speaker001:] um-hum and uh that would be school a school that the parents uh should seek out for their uh students if they're interested in that that field and
[speaker002:] yes
[speaker001:] and where it's well known uh the word gets out and that that might be a a case where even if it was out of state and they had to pay a little higher tuition then it would be well worth the the uh to to go to to Penn State
[speaker002:] yes yes because Penn Penn State is very well known in uh many of its uh many of its fields and uh we we get a lot we do we only we get our sort of say we get state uh students not only from out of state but from all over the world
[speaker001:] um-hum yes
[speaker002:] I mean they they they really come here we have a very high uh percentage of foreign students because Penn State is pretty well tops in many of its fields
[speaker001:] um-hum you bet
[speaker002:] and we have doubled in size in the last fifteen twenty years I guess
[speaker001:] um-hum well that's very important in in a choice of a college or university that they look at those aspects uh wherever they might be
[speaker002:] um-hum
[speaker001:] and if it's uh financially if they can do that that's that's great
[speaker002:] yes that's true
[speaker001:] but they they need to know about the the costs and uh how they're going to be able to pay for this whether they can get students loans or are their parents are able to help or whatever but uh uh the bottom line is uh the the college or university that's gonna give them the best training prepare them for life
[speaker002:] yes and then the basic thing is that you started out earlier to say the the bottom line is to give your