[speaker001:] Well, got any problems on Mockingbird with crime or is that a crime free zone there?
[speaker002:] No, I don't think there is any such thing,
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] as a crime free zone any longer.
[speaker001:] I'm afraid you're right.
[speaker002:] Uh, one evening I decided to retire early and heard sirens and noises and thought, oh, well, something's happens on Mockingbird and then heard yells and screams and the next thing I know there are policemen all around my house.
[speaker001:] Oh, my.
[speaker002:] And they had stopped a, uh, b-, a stolen car
[speaker001:] Oh, boy.
[speaker002:] and caught one of the men in the hedge and then the other one was on the roof in the back.
[speaker001:] By your house?
[speaker002:] B-, on my house [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Oh, my goodness.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] Aye, aye, aye [LAUGHTER].
[speaker002:] So I'm very much aware of, uh, crime in the cities and the, and the concern about it.
[speaker001:] Oh, my. That's, that's got to be a frightening way to
[speaker002:] It was.
[speaker001:] spend an evening.
[speaker002:] I, uh, I kept hearing noises and so I, I knew that I was not going to sleep until I got up and went out and checked the garage, so I got a g-, my gun and walked to the, you know, through the house into the garage. There was no one there, but I wanted to be sure.
[speaker001:] Oh, boy.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Is Plano beginning to experience the, the kinds of things that are more common in the metropolitan, you know, in the
[speaker001:] Unfortunately
[speaker002:] urban area?
[speaker001:] yes.
[speaker002:] That's
[speaker001:] Yes.
[speaker002:] too bad.
[speaker001:] I think, uh, you know, as any city grows up, uh, you get the hoods and the roof-, riffraff and
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] everybody else
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] in there, and I think, uh, you know, fortunately the sirens and everything we hear are over on Spring Creek, but, uh, we've been, we've lived here sixteen years and
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] now you, you know, you can tell the change, for sure.
[speaker002:] Well, I was thinking, if you've been there that long, you've seen Plano grow
[speaker001:] Yes.
[speaker002:] from what was really a, a small town to a city.
[speaker001:] Well, with all the, uh, Central Expressway, uh,
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER].
[speaker001:] with all the stores and the, uh, restaurants and the
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] uh, convenience stores and all that kind of stuff, it's just prime pickings for people driving by.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] You know and,
[speaker002:] Well, I was appalled to read the other day about the, uh, uh, shooting on the tollway.
[speaker001:] That's, that couldn't be too far from you, neither.
[speaker002:] Uh, well, it's farther west of me.
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] I live over near White Rock Lake.
[speaker001:] Oh, yes, okay.
[speaker002:] But, uh,
[speaker001:] [Squeak].
[speaker002:] uh, it was really frightening to,
[speaker001:] [Squeak].
[speaker002:] think that, uh, it's not even safe to drive onto the tollway,
[speaker001:] [Squeak].
[speaker002:] or for those people in the tollbooth.
[speaker001:] [Squeak].
[speaker002:] Uh, I never thought about someone robbing those, but, apparently, they do.
[speaker001:] I don't know, uh, how a few bucks can be worth shooting somebody but,
[speaker002:] Yeah, it just doesn't seem possible, does it.
[speaker001:] It's kind of, kind of stupid, isn't it.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] But I guess when people do those things, they don't really give a thought of the consequences at the time. It's, looks like
[speaker002:] No.
[speaker001:] easy pickings and away you go, right.
[speaker002:] Yeah, and I think the drugs play a tremendous part in, uh, the theft and the, the violence that we see.
[speaker001:] I think you're right, uh, although I think that may be an excuse for people, too.
[speaker002:] It, it is convenient, isn't it?
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] I didn't know what I was doing.
[speaker001:] Right.
[speaker002:] That kind.
[speaker001:] Right, just like the old alcohol idea and
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] I think people, uh, I think when you have haves and have nots, you're always going to find people that are too lazy to figure a way to earn money and find it's easier if you can get a gun to go out and hold something up
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] than it is to figure out a way to legitimately earn the money.
[speaker002:] Well, yes, and I work in South Dallas for the Dallas School System.
[speaker001:] Oh, boy.
[speaker002:] And, uh, uh,
[speaker001:] Where do you work?
[speaker002:] Uh, do you know where Oakland and Hatcher are?
[speaker001:] Uh, yes, I think I do. That, uh, is that Amelia Earhart, -hart School there?
[speaker002:] Uh, no this is over near Lincoln High School.
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] Uh, just, not far off South Central Expressway.
[speaker001:] That's a pretty rough area there, isn't it?
[speaker002:] It is a pretty rough area. We're over by Fair Park.
[speaker001:] Oh, my goodness.
[speaker002:] And, uh, you know, you watch the people. There are marvelous B M W -s and Mercedes and Cadillacs and everything parked all up and down the street outside these awful taverns.
[speaker001:] Huh.
[speaker002:] And the kids see that and, uh, they know that they can earn several hundred dollars in a day where, uh, you know, running for, uh, drug dealers if,
[speaker001:] Definitely that area, that, that's big time.
[speaker002:] Uh-huh.
[speaker001:] Big time there, sure is.
[speaker002:] It surely is.
[speaker001:] I don't think I'd go to work without a bulletproof vest on myself.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] Well, I'm careful.
[speaker001:] Gee-, that's the worst neighborhood in the whole c-, area.
[speaker002:] Yeah, it's, uh, a little scary sometimes and, uh, I manage the,