[speaker001:] I hate computer games.
[speaker002:] Why? They are fine.
[speaker001:] Because they are too violent. Some of them are even disgusting.
[speaker002:] Indeed there are bad games. But many of them are good.
[speaker001:] If boys grow up with computer games, they will surely become bad.
[speaker002:] Come on. Things are not so bad. Boys can learn to use the computer through games.