[speaker001:] Alice, your father is amazing. He 's 90 years old and he lives alone in that big house.
[speaker002:] I know. He doesn 't like to ask anyone for help. My dad insists on paying his own bills and taking care of himself!
[speaker001:] That sounds like my Grandmother. She was always stubbornly independent.
[speaker002:] It seems that folks like my father and your grandmother are determined to be on their own.
[speaker001:] They see their independence as a kind of character strength.
[speaker002:] Sometimes they are too independent.