[speaker001:] So, Karen, what do you do in your free time?
[speaker002:] Well, I like to play the piano.
[speaker001:] Really? How long have you been playing piano?
[speaker002:] About 18 years, I started learning when I was a kid.
[speaker001:] That 's really interesting, you have to play for me some time.
[speaker002:] Sure, so, what about you? Do you have any hobbies?
[speaker001:] Well, I collect beer mats. I 'm not sure that counts, though.