[Richard:] As far as I can make out we're up to, we're up to the darts competition
[Jan:] Right.
[Richard:] er, we need to go through every single entry on, alongside darts, call them out to me for example, Elaine W one, Mid Northumberland, M N
[Jan:] Right, let me have a look at this first before, you pour a cup of tea and I'll have a look at this form...
[Richard:] That's probably not the best one cos that's er, that's not the normal form.
[Jan:] [cough] Never mind, aids with that?
[Richard:] Erm, no
[Jan:] Are they competing if they've got aids?
[Richard:] that's, yes, hmm, that's carpet bowls with guttering it's not
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] it's not with aids as you said
[Jan:] Carpet bowls with guttering oh good [clears throat] so you want for example Elaine W one
[Richard:] and then there's
[Jan:] this Northumberland?
[Richard:] Yes er, Mid Northumberland
[Jan:] Right
[Richard:] or M N.
[Jan:] and where's the darts? That's the darts
[Richard:] That's the darts column
[Jan:] thing down there
[Richard:] on the other ones the darts column is a bit more com is a bit simpler
[Jan:] Oh right, I'll need room for this, that's handy...
[Richard:] but er, but, damn time consuming that's the only trouble
[Jan:] What?
[Richard:] erm... I think this is the way it's done anyway, tt, er, they should have done all the rest of them.
[Jan:] Oh got the wrong one...
[Richard:] You're not the only one.
[Jan:] which one is it?
[Richard:] Which one's that then? Oh dear... right, I haven't put here's the darts, darts ambulance... you have, have to give me the name, the classification and... club
[Jan:] Mm, mm...
[Richard:] er we should stop this thing while we was pouring that out
[Jan:] Too late...
[Richard:] rattle that through
[Jan:] mm, thank you... right
[Richard:] right, er, I've got my pad here, is that there's that sheet and there's all this lot... for each classification
[Jan:] [clears throat] Wonderful
[Richard:] oh...
[Jan:] so you're onto darts?
[Richard:] Right, we're on darts
[Jan:] Where you got to?
[Richard:] haven't started darts... oh that's funny, that's ambulance
[Jan:] S W five
[Richard:] er
[Jan:] you want the number as well?
[Richard:] Yes, I'm just looking for
[Jan:] What for?
[Richard:] the other darts... looks as though it's missing... oh no...
[Jan:] You d the other darts are not in the bits she's given you?
[Richard:] No, it's er... oh this is ridiculous...
[Jan:] So you see your Christmas present came in handy...
[Richard:] that's, look, let's do another one first, what's the next one on the list?
[Jan:] Er quoits wonderful
[Richard:] Quoits right
[Jan:] I want to do quoits, I don't [cough]...
[Richard:] right... okay, quoits
[Jan:] quoits, they all want to do quoits
[Richard:] Hundreds of them, yes
[Jan:] Hundreds of them, wonderful, somebody else can do this one Elizabeth
[Richard:] Well give me the class
[Jan:] W five...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] number?
[Richard:] event, no I don't need the number
[Jan:] What's their name?
[Richard:] Mid Northumberland
[Jan:] Yeah, Mid Northumberland
[Richard:] right
[Jan:] these are all Mid Northumberland
[Richard:] right
[Jan:] er... anything else you want?
[Richard:] No, all I want is the name
[Jan:] Of the class?
[Richard:] the class, yes
[Jan:] Okay Elaine W one Mid Northumberland...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Peter
[Richard:] ah, ah ah, ah, er Mid Northumberland, that should be, she's got down
[Jan:] Well it says W one here
[Richard:] Right, that's okay
[Jan:] Peter looks like five, three or S three
[Richard:] S three, probably if you give me the class first it's probably easier Pete, Peter
[Jan:] S three, it just says [spelling] []
[Richard:] [spelling] [] right
[Jan:] mm, mm
[Richard:] okay
[Jan:] Wayne W three... W three?
[Richard:] Yes... yes, right
[Jan:] What's W stand for?
[Richard:] Wheelchairs
[Jan:] Oh right
[Richard:] Class class three, stand S stand
[Jan:] and S is standing
[Richard:] S is standing
[Jan:] right, John W one
[Richard:] Eh?
[Jan:] John W one
[Richard:] That's right, okay
[Jan:] in Northumberland, another W one Paul,
[Richard:] Well how have I got, those down, as, these are Mid Northumberland?
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] Right, okay...
[Jan:] Irene W two...
[Richard:] th this is er mid Northumberland isn't it?
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] I've got them down as T, L, F that one, okay
[Jan:] W three Yvonne
[Richard:] right, yes...
[Jan:] W four Millie, [spelling] M I L L I E []
[Richard:] Millie, or Lillie?
[Jan:] Millie...
[Richard:] Right...
[Jan:] W four, Sheila
[Richard:] right, yes
[Jan:] Sheila W five
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Steven W five
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] oh Veron
[Richard:] there yes got him
[Jan:] W five, used to be at our school
[Richard:] does he?
[Jan:] Yes... he's doing quoits again Robin
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] W five... Steven
[Richard:] who's he? What's he?
[Jan:] Well it says...
[Richard:] V H?...
[Jan:] it hasn't got anything by him
[Richard:] It must have something
[Jan:] it's got O, two, one, his number and then S one A
[Richard:] That's it S one A, S one A... er... what's, what's his name again?
[Jan:] Robin
[Richard:] Oh we've got Robin he's er W five
[Jan:] Oh sorry Steven...
[Richard:] Steven
[Jan:] Mm, mm...
[Richard:] yes, got him
[Jan:] er Kevin S two...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Lou S three
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] David S two
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Neville S one A, what's the difference between the one As?
[Richard:] Er... [clears throat] standing one ambulance, that's what it stands for, er it means
[Jan:] Oh what standing not ambulance, I thought he'd be in a wheelchair
[Richard:] it means that er they're in a wheelchair most of the time, but they're, for the, for the activity they're, they're standing
[Jan:] Oh I see, right that's the lot on this page then
[Richard:] Right, okay, so, let's work our way rest of the roll more or less
[Jan:] Right, quoits, what does, that's erm Q is it?
[Richard:] Pardon?
[Jan:] Q for quoits on this
[Richard:] Yes Q for quoits
[Jan:] Q for quoits right, oh, I think one of the disabled secretaries wrote this
[Richard:] Yes I think that's, that's the Hexham one is it?
[Jan:] That's the Hexham Spinal Sports Club
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] erm, for the quoits there's only two competitors
[Richard:] Right, what are they? Are they wheelchairs?
[Jan:] er John W five
[Richard:] Who?
[Jan:] John oh no could be
[Richard:] John
[Jan:] yes
[Richard:] er... wheelchair W five?
[Jan:] mm...
[Richard:] Oh, he's not there, John... right, okay, yes
[Jan:] and the other one is Andrew or Andrew W four...
[Richard:] right okay, that's got them, yes got him, okay, right
[Jan:] right...
[Richard:] sometimes there might be two different names on this, on those, on those photocopies... so it might not be the same one at the top and bottom
[Jan:] Right, this is West Cumbria Disabled Sports Club
[Richard:] Cumb right
[Jan:] right,Cumb... Tom, oh this sports, Tom S one...
[Richard:] Tom?
[Jan:] oh Tom, yes...
[Richard:] Right
[Jan:] more disabled writing, Mary S one
[Richard:] or?
[Jan:] Says W...
[Richard:] Right
[Jan:] George S two
[Richard:] yes yes got him
[Jan:] John S four
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] John S five
[Richard:] er... [sneeze] John, yes
[Jan:] S five... [clears throat] now... Marilyn or Mary Lyn W
[Richard:] Ma
[Jan:] one
[Richard:] Marilyn, yes
[Jan:] Bernadette
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] W one... May W one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] T W three
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] D'ya wanna get your tea?...
[Richard:] Er haven't got time for tea
[Jan:] You have got time for tea...
[Richard:] the way all good lecturers spend an evening, working
[Jan:] oh plod, plod, British Polio Fellowship
[Richard:] Right B P F, yes
[Jan:] erm, get right list, Dorothy W one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Joan W five...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Joan W five
[Richard:] yes yes
[Jan:] Emily W four...
[Richard:] er... yes
[Jan:] Ivy
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] W four I remember her, Margaret W one
[Richard:] that's er, that's innit?
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] Margaret
[Jan:] yeah...
[Richard:] yes, got her, yes...
[Jan:] right, still the British Polio Fellowship, Maureen S five...
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] Fran S one
[Richard:] well named, yes
[Jan:] Liz S, S three
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Mildred S five
[Richard:] is that [spelling] []?
[Jan:] [spelling] []
[Richard:] [spelling] []
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] [spelling] []
[Jan:] [spelling] []
[Richard:] that's right
[Jan:] Cathy W one
[Richard:] er... yes
[Jan:] Connie S four...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Jean W five
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] Peter
[Richard:] [spelling] [] is that?
[Jan:] [spelling] []
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] S three
[Richard:] three
[Jan:] Laura W two...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] and Jimmy S four...
[Richard:] yes is that with, without an E isn't it?
[Jan:] yeah...
[Richard:] Quoits is about the biggest one
[Jan:] Yes I know, you can get somebody else to do that, be there for months... and they don't turn up at once, that was erm, I didn't realize they had to turn up at once, so I was letting them throw whenever they wanted
[Richard:] What do you mean, they throw whenever they want
[Jan:] Yeah, but it makes it very difficult, if you got a play off, it gets, if you get people on the same... same score
[Richard:] Well you have to, you have to call for them then
[Jan:] Yeah I know but they don't turn up and you get all tangled up... all over the place
[Richard:] Oh I'd let them come, I'd let them come whenever you can get them cos we've got so many of them it's...
[Jan:] Well they're given a time to turn up in a group aren't they?
[Richard:] They are given a time, but they never do, if you er, there's no way you're gonna get them together as a group for that time
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] so you might as well fill in the gaps whenever you can... er they're for a day out that's the trouble they're not, they're not there for a, they're not
[Jan:] You mean they don't take this test seriously as I do, Ashington Floaters
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] Ashington Floaters, quoits, Cyril S one A...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Doreen S one...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Don W three...
[Richard:] [spelling] []?
[Jan:] No [spelling] []
[Richard:] [spelling] []?
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] Oh damn it...
[Jan:] What's wrong?
[Richard:] I'll swear in a minute
[Jan:] Yeah, Linda S three...
[Richard:] er... Linda? Yeah, aye yes, got her, yes
[Jan:] and then Paula [spelling] []
[Richard:] Where's she?
[Jan:] S one A...
[Richard:] Yes, hang on, what, what, Paula [spelling] []?
[Jan:] Yes
[Richard:] What classifications?
[Jan:] S one A
[Richard:] What, which, who is she?
[Jan:] Ashington Floaters
[Richard:] Oh... right, okay...
[Jan:] right, erm, we go down to Bedlington Disabled
[Richard:] right...
[Jan:] erm Dorothy S two...
[Richard:] er... I don't
[Jan:] there's [spelling] []...
[Richard:] er, okay
[Jan:] Lillie S three
[Richard:] right, yes, got her
[Jan:] Cathy S one A...
[Richard:] yes, these are all Bedlington aren't they?
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] Ina W one...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Pauline... S three...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Ann [spelling] [] S one A... the only one to enter the quoits this lot
[Richard:] Ann
[Jan:] Ann
[Richard:] yes, got it
[Jan:] Bridgett, Bridgett with a double T, S two... [clears throat]...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] and Marjorie [spelling] [] W two...
[Richard:] er, Bedlington right, yes
[Jan:] No that's Ashington Floaters
[Richard:] right
[Jan:] Jean S one A...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Tom or
[Richard:] S one A yes
[Jan:] S one A,Norma Norman S one A
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Nan S one A
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] erm Ken W one...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] right that's that lot done.
[Richard:] Is that all the
[Jan:] Well that's been all the Ashington Floaters and the Bedlington Disabled
[Richard:] oh
[Jan:] and there's some more here
[Richard:] you haven't done those sheets yet?
[Jan:] Mm, mm
[Richard:] Oh so we've got all those sheets to do yet
[Jan:] I know, hmm
[Richard:] this is one, one classification?
[Jan:] well how far have you got through?
[Richard:] Got most of them done... javelin's done, the shot's done, this er... er we should do, we're nearly there actually
[Jan:] How long, the students doing, checking this?
[Richard:] Well, they haven't done it, they haven't finished it have they? That's why I'm having to do it...
[Jan:] Idle, final
[Richard:] totally idle
[Jan:] a waste, a waste of education, right this is Carlisle Sports for the Disabled
[Richard:] Right
[Jan:] James W five
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Steven of no forget Steven, Nicholas W two
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Robert W two
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Bill
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] W three Robert S three
[Richard:] er... yes
[Jan:] James S one...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] [cough] Andrew S one
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] Carlisle Sports Club, John
[Richard:] What is he?
[Jan:] V H, what's V H?
[Richard:] Visually handicapped
[Jan:] Very handicapped
[Richard:] yes, got it
[Jan:] oh visually handicapped, okay, John V H
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Linda W four...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Debbie W one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Margaret seem to remember her S three...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Sheila... W two
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] and Pam W one
[Richard:] Pam who?
[Jan:] , looks like Pam, oh no she's not on it, she's not doing quoits, I tell you a lie, but somebody here is for the British Polio Linda S five...
[Richard:] Yes...
[Jan:] must, gotta ring your mum back some time tonight... when you've done the quoits, right Hurst Welfare then, quoits Ivy S three
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Margaret
[Richard:] that is here
[Jan:] W two...
[Richard:] who? ,, [spelling] []
[Jan:] no it's [spelling] []...
[Richard:] right okay
[Jan:] Martha
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] W two, Val V H visually handicapped... Helen
[Richard:] hang on Val
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] visually handicapped
[Jan:] yeah...
[Richard:] oh, eh, you sure she's doing it?
[Jan:] Yes...
[Richard:] Val she's, and she's visually handicapped?
[Jan:] Says so here, sex, female,
[Richard:] She, see if there's a Val anywhere else... that's the afternoon ones, right I'll add her on Val...
[Jan:] Yes, and then it's Helen
[Richard:] H W D
[Jan:] [cough]
[Richard:] what's she?
[Jan:] V H...
[Richard:] And another one? There's two, two V H there
[Jan:] No, erm Helen is S one A...
[Richard:] er Helen or
[Jan:] ... S one A
[Richard:] [spelling] [] right
[Jan:] Jack W one [clears throat]
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] we're back to Bedlington Disabled... Keith W two...
[Richard:] [spelling] [] yes
[Jan:] mm, mm, Keith S one A...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Joe W three...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Sidney
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] [spelling] []
[Richard:] S one A
[Jan:] S one A, there's a question mark on S one A
[Richard:] oh leave it
[Jan:] and Robert S one A
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Randall
[Richard:] what's he?
[Jan:] er S two...
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] Terry W one and William W one
[Richard:] hold on, Terry W er there's a mistake there... right, okay, yes
[Jan:] and have you got William W one?
[Richard:] Yes... I've got Wililiam here
[Jan:] What? Wililiam
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] Hurst Welfare again, the Hurst Welfare
[Richard:] Right, what are we on now?
[Jan:] Alf... S one
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] Alan S one A
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Malcolm S one
[Richard:] Hurst Welfare
[Jan:] Hurst Welfare
[Richard:] yeah that's right
[Jan:] that's it?
[Richard:] that's all, oh no we've got another, oh
[Jan:] Sorry I mean that's it, that's, that's the whole
[Richard:] that's that sheet
[Jan:] that's that sheet, yeah
[Richard:] right
[Jan:] it doesn't go on the back of these does it?
[Richard:] No it's just er
[Jan:] Are these the ones you send out?
[Richard:] Yes, because er... they didn't produce it in time so therefore it couldn't be printed
[Jan:] So it had to be photocopied
[Richard:] so it had to be photocopied...
[Jan:] yeah, any, well er right, which club is this?... Killingworth Flyers
[Richard:] Those, those yellow ones, they're all Killingworth Flyers
[Jan:] okay, Deborah S four...
[Richard:] who?
[Jan:] Deborah S four, S four R
[Richard:] Yes, yes ah yes got her, yes
[Jan:] Graham S one A... Susan
[Richard:] oh, oh, oh, er, Graham [spelling] [] isn't it?...
[Jan:] well it looks like an E, but it must be a G
[Richard:] Not necessarily
[Jan:] mm, well yeah I suppose it could be, yeah I suppose it could be [spelling] []
[Richard:] [spelling] []
[Jan:] [spelling] []
[Richard:] [spelling] [] mm, maybe I've got it wrong there as well, alright, okay, carry on
[Jan:] Susan S three..
[Richard:] do, do, yes, got her
[Jan:] John...
[Richard:] what is he?
[Jan:] W three, no I, I think that, that, that must be cos they've got the same G here I think it's
[Richard:] so it's [spelling] []?
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] Right, okay, I bet he's wrong all the way through
[Jan:] well oh that's a isn't it and it's the same E...
[Richard:] Yes it is isn't it?
[Jan:] Aye it's like
[Richard:] It's a funny way of doing the G
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] Alright, okay, is that the lot? Finished with that one?
[Jan:] Finished with that one, more... Colin S one A...
[Richard:] How to get bored in one easy movement
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] er, yes
[Jan:] Bill S two
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Hazel S one A...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Ernie W one...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Michael
[Richard:] Michael who's he?
[Jan:] S four...
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] Alan S four
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] Frank oh it's them again is it?
[Richard:] That's right
[Jan:] Mm S one A... Susan
[Richard:] hang on... trying to, yes, Susan visually handicapped is she?
[Jan:] Yeah... Evelyn S four...
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] Paul visually handicapped
[Richard:] [spelling] [] oh it's [spelling] [] isn't it?
[Jan:] [spelling] []
[Richard:] [spelling] [] right
[Jan:] Russell S one...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Aileen S one A...
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] this is the John Wright Centre
[Richard:] right
[Jan:] erm... C W five...
[Richard:] eh? C
[Jan:] C W five
[Richard:] Oh right yes got it, yes
[Jan:] C W five
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] M [spelling] [] W one
[Richard:] is it or?
[Jan:] it says
[Richard:] [spelling] []
[Jan:] yeah...
[Richard:] okay, right
[Jan:] Y W one
[Richard:] Y
[Jan:] and L
[Richard:] ah, I'm looking for her, Yvonne yeah
[Jan:] yeah
[Richard:] that's right, okay
[Jan:] and L
[Richard:] L, yes
[Jan:] W one, M...
[Richard:] where's that?
[Jan:] S one
[Richard:] Is that or?
[Jan:] Oh it could be, M
[Richard:] Er, hang on, S what?
[Jan:] Oh no he's not doing that, sorry
[Richard:] Hmm
[Jan:] L
[Richard:] what's that?
[Jan:] W two, oh maybe this is the last one
[Richard:] L?...
[Jan:] yes
[Richard:] W two?
[Jan:] yes... doing quoits
[Richard:] Male or female?
[Jan:] Female
[Richard:] Oh, oh, L oh, right, yes, got her, yes...
[Jan:] in fact that M, it mi it might be cos the L's completely different looking at this... have a look
[Richard:] I've a feeling it's actually...
[Jan:] Oh they don't do any of the other Ls, the same...
[Richard:] Oh we'll leave it as, I think it's all the way through
[Jan:] [cough] Right, this is T, L, F Sports Club?
[Richard:] Yes, T, L, F yes
[Jan:] Er... Paul S one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Derrick S four...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Jean visually handicapped
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Sandra S one A...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Geoff W one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Mark that a erm S one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Chris S one A...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] and Christine W five...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Jean W two and that's the entry for quoits
[Richard:] right
[Jan:] better go and ring your mother
[Richard:] Let's have a look at that white sheet first... erm, quoits are done, I'll do the pools after those... shot, javelin, discus, low on darts, they've ticked these so I hope to God they're right... well that Justin'll do anything to be perfectly honest... er... I wish she, it makes it so difficult when you can't trust people.
[Jan:] Mm...
[Richard:] Table tennis... oh, well, have, the table tennis hasn't been then yet?
[Jan:] T T is that?
[Richard:] Yes...
[Jan:] Some of these have been crossed, have been done on the Hexham Spinal Sports Club T T
[Richard:] Right, you'd better give them a shout, there aren't that many actually
[Jan:] Aren't there?...
[Richard:] table tennis
[Jan:] Has it a that as?
[Richard:] Yeah, there aren't any on there, so I'll tick you one on there
[Jan:] [yawning] Right, oh, right [] okay the Hexham Spinal Sports Club
[Richard:] Right you've got the list
[Jan:] L
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Terry
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Peter
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Douglas
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Andrew
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] table tennis, T, L, F, Paul...
[Richard:] er...
[Jan:] Derek, Paul S one...
[Richard:] Paul he's got, he's er S one table tennis, you sure he's on table tennis?
[Jan:] It says T T
[Richard:] Right, er Paul, okay, I'll put him in, Paul hope there aren't any more
[Jan:] Derek...
[Richard:] who's he?
[Jan:] S four? Yeah...
[Richard:] Oh hang on, hang on, hang on... oh, right table tennis, what was the last one's name?
[Jan:] Paul
[Richard:] Yes, got him, okay
[Jan:] Derek
[Richard:] erm, what's he?
[Jan:] [yawning] S four []
[Richard:] Yes got him
[Jan:] Geoff W one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Mark
[Richard:] what's he?
[Jan:] S one... [cough]
[Richard:] Yes T, L, F isn't it that?
[Jan:] That's T, L, F yes
[Richard:] Right
[Jan:] erm, this John Wright Centre, M S one
[Richard:] is it or?
[Jan:] oh but I think it's, well or
[Richard:] I've got down here, so leave it as I think
[Jan:] erm, I think it's actually, never know, erm, now where are we? Killingworth Flyers, table tennis, Susan
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] visually handicapped playing table tennis?
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Paula...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] W four, Paul visually handicapped
[Richard:] no he's not, is he?
[Jan:] Says here visually handicapped
[Richard:] Paul is er
[Jan:] visually handicapped...
[Richard:] oh yes in the males so he's playing er, it's all classes
[Jan:] This one Killingworth Flyers again, oh a lot of table tennis here Colin S one A
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Hazel S one A
[Richard:] er that's all we need to fill in it's me, although I did that, make, make that mistake, right, yes, go on
[Jan:] Can't be trusted Jimmy W five...
[Richard:] er... yes
[Jan:] [yawning] Ernie []
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] W one Michael S four...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Alan S four
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] four Killingworth Flyers, Deborah S four
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] William S one A
[Richard:] yes that's the...
[Jan:] Susan S three...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] and John...
[Richard:] John where the hell's he gone, erm, I'm looking for John, yes got him
[Jan:] Hurst Welfare, Ivy S three...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Hurst Welfare again, Alf S one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Alan S one A, Malcolm
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Ann disabled
[Richard:] Malcolm
[Jan:] Keith
[Richard:] what's Malcolm?
[Jan:] S one
[Richard:] Yes got him, yes
[Jan:] and Keith Bedlington Disabled W two...
[Richard:] Keith is that what you'd, yes, got him, yes...
[Jan:] I thought you said there weren't man Carlisle Sports
[Richard:] There weren't
[Jan:] for the Disabled, James W five
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Robert W two
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Bill
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] W three, Robert S three
[Richard:] right, yes...
[Jan:] Carlisle Sports again, Belinda W four
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Sheila W two
[Richard:] yes...
[Jan:] Ashington Floaters... Don W three...
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Ivy W er S one A
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] and nothing for Bedlington Disabled
[Richard:] nothing for Jean
[Jan:] yes I got into the Ashington Floaters as well, Jean S one A
[Richard:] right, yes
[Jan:] I think I'm getting er... a pain just in the elbow there
[Richard:] Might be tennis elbow
[Jan:] oh it just started this week, it's not swollen
[Richard:] show me
[Jan:] yeah I suppose it could be the swimming
[Richard:] I get it every time I go swimming
[Jan:] Oh, you're very brave about it dear, er Margaret W one, that British Polio Fellowship?
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] And again John W, V, H
[Richard:] er, yes
[Jan:] [cough] Fran S one
[Richard:] Fran... er, yes
[Jan:] Cathy W one
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Norma W two
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] Jimmy...
[Richard:] he is?
[Jan:] S four
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] now er West Cumbria Disabled Sports Club, John S four
[Richard:] yes
[Jan:] and William
[Richard:] yes, W
[Jan:] now that's that classification done
[Richard:] Let's have a look at this..., er... well they'd supposedly done weightlifting... they've made, they've made a few er, they've seemed to have done some alterations on it so they must have done that one, er... wheelchair slalom
[Jan:] Wheelchair slalom you're joking.
[Richard:] Pardon?
[Jan:] You're joking
[Richard:] Yeah
[Jan:] wheelchair slalom
[Richard:] wheelchair slalom last year d'ya remember?
[Jan:] Oh I was stuck on the quoits, I never saw anything except
[Richard:] Well they've got another name added on here, so maybe they have done that one, just as, find it interesting is the fact there's no er... no errors anywhere
[Jan:] Well maybe there aren't any mistakes
[Richard:] if there aren't any mistakes, it must have been the one I did
[Jan:] Oh, right
[Richard:] er... right, what's, hopefully that one's right, er, there's carpet bowls
[Jan:] C B
[Richard:] C B with guttering
[Jan:] guttering
[Richard:] to start off with
[Jan:] Where are you going?
[Richard:] I'm going off on me walkabouts, gonna visit all me old mates
[Jan:] Mm, mm
[Richard:] and er have a good time apart from the fact I was camping at so I'm going off on the Mo on the Tuesday... still be knackered after the
[Jan:] Just after the disabled games
[Richard:] disabled games, that's a Tuesday, this, that's, the day after Bank Holiday, setting off, er nine o'clock in the morning
[Jan:] This the Tuesday?
[Richard:] Yeah
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] so everything's gotta be sorted out before the Tuesday... er... I'm going to in the morning erm
[Jan:] Oh why, why use Alston?
[Richard:] Because it happens to be en route
[Jan:] Oh
[Richard:] basically, besides it's somewhere to call in
[Jan:] know anybody there?
[Richard:] No I don't actually, but er
[Jan:] Oh
[Richard:] oh I went last year, so it could be interesting, it's quite an interesting centre
[Jan:] [yawning] yeah []
[Richard:] so private
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] Hope it hasn't gone bust [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] oh
[Richard:] cos I haven't got, got to contact him tomorrow, cos I couldn't find his telephone number
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] er booked into, with Bob and er Steve at er Ullswater at two o'clock... we'll leave
[Jan:] yeah
[Richard:] we'll have a talk first and then he's going to have a walk, a walk round the centre, look at the facilities, and er, then go and do, do the ropes course and then we're going to head across to... to set up camp and which is in a field outside the centre
[Jan:] Why are you camping?
[Richard:] To save money for the students, cos we might
[Jan:] Well they'll only complain you know
[Richard:] Pardon?
[Jan:] they'll only complain even if you try and save money for them
[Richard:] Well... I'm just tr
[Jan:] I say you don't have to camp do you?
[Richard:] Of course I'll have to camp as well...
[Jan:] Why, you don't have to save money, stay in the centre...
[Richard:] Tt, I probably could, but I don't think it, it would go down very well with the students
[Jan:] Well they can't have it both ways... if they can afford to save money they can, [LAUGHTER] but if they don't, then stay in the centre []...
[Richard:] I couldn't stay in the centre, there wasn't space in the centre
[Jan:] Oh
[Richard:] erm
[Jan:] will they have the er big llamas and the snakes will they?
[Richard:] Yes, so
[Jan:] Hey it's a sheep
[Richard:] so, having an early start the following morning, we're going to be at er Lane Head for half nine so go and see Martin, tt
[Jan:] Er, where's his wife, is she still in Shropshire?
[Richard:] She's running the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme for Wales, she's down in Brecon
[Jan:] Surely he was closer
[Richard:] the kids are at school in Brecon...
[Jan:] Now why isn't he choosing centres that are down there or is there less to their relationship than meets the eye?...
[Richard:] Well it's, I, I, almost, I asked
[Jan:] You almost asked him if [LAUGHTER] he'd split up [] with his wife...
[Richard:] er I said, er, all I said to him was that, erm, he said, he said he was going back er up, up and down most weekends to er
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] to Wales, so he could be with her mind, er and he said well I've got the job I want and she's got the job she wants, erm, we're both happy in our work...
[Jan:] But surely he was closer to her in erm? I suppose it took that long to get there did it?
[Richard:] He had to get right across, right across Wales
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] remember when we went, when we dropped er Aunty Helen off
[Jan:] Oh it took hours didn't it?
[Richard:] took about two and a half, two hours didn't it?
[Jan:] Yeah yeah
[Richard:] Just to get to, and er... so we've, we're there for an hour or so, then we are going er the Y M C A at Lakeside
[Jan:] mm, mm
[Richard:] cos it's er a good centre
[Jan:] mm, mm
[Richard:] then we're going, we're then popping down to Eskdale to
[Jan:] who's in charge of Eskdale now that Roger up for the M P?
[Richard:] Bob
[Jan:] Oh
[Richard:] you know Bob
[Jan:] I don't remember when
[Richard:] you met at the Eskdale party two years ago...
[Jan:] You'll have to identify him more than that... what did he look, apart from the fact, what did he look like?
[Richard:] Er
[Jan:] What was he, job he was doing, was he chief instructor? Oh
[Richard:] a smallish guy, er, sandy, sandy hair cut short, very stocky, er he used to be up at, he used to be at Glenmore Lodge
[Jan:] I don't remember... are you sure we were er, are you sure we were there two years ago? I don't think we were, I think it was about three years ago
[Richard:] It was just after Roger reti left
[Jan:] yeah...
[Richard:] Roger er Roger
[Jan:] oh wasn't he give, wasn't he officiating that night because didn't he give a speech?
[Richard:] Yes
[Jan:] His farewell speech
[Richard:] no Roger didn't officiate
[Jan:] But he gave a speech didn't he from the stairs
[Richard:] Roger didn't... Bob did...
[Jan:] Oh... yes it's all coming back, well some of it, oh a bit of it, yes...
[Richard:] So, we're going there, then to have a little bit of fun, we're going to have a talk and a guided tour and I'll do the guided tour
[Jan:] mm, mm
[Richard:] and that
[Jan:] seeing as you know the way
[Richard:] then we'll go to erm, go and have a session on the ropes course
[Jan:] hmm, be sick of rope courses
[Richard:] No he won't, only gonna do the two, they're doing the, the Ullswater one and the Eskdale one
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] then we're gonna go climbing at
[Jan:] Where's?
[Richard:] and erm... just down the road the crag down the road... sort of climb there for, for a, two or three hours, then we'll drive back and have fish and chips in Ambleside and er
[Jan:] Stay with Bill and Liz
[Richard:] No, I'm going to Keswick no we're camping
[Jan:] I'm sorry, yes, I was listening
[Richard:] and er, they're er, they're going to have cold breakfast
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER] They'll have cold everything there []
[Richard:] and then they're going to have
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] cold washes early []
[Richard:] and then they're going to have er
[Jan:] [cough]
[Richard:] they're gonna cook the evening meal on the er, on the Tuesday night and er, they're going to, we're going, we're going to have fish and chips on the Wednesday night
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] tt and Thursday they're going to the luxury end, they're going to they're going to see Paul and John
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER] Hope they clean up before they go there
[Richard:] and er from there we er... head for, we're going to see Dave at Gillhead and then we're coming home
[Jan:] mm... and do the students know all this? Do they know they're camping?
[Richard:] Oh yes, yes, cos they're the ones, they're, they're the ones who wanted to, to camp
[Jan:] Well if they're the ones who wanted to camp I think you should go in there, you should er go in the
[Richard:] Well what's happening is they want... they wanted to save money
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] and also I can do a little bit of a fiddle
[Jan:] yes
[Richard:] because it can count as their as part of their their camping experience for Beta award
[Jan:] oh well that's
[Richard:] it saves me having to do three weekends, I can do two weekends next term instead of three
[Jan:] is this the B Tech Beta is it?
[Richard:] Yeah the B Tech Beta award, tt, then the weekend after that I was going, Peter's group's cancelled
[Jan:] Which group's that?
[Richard:] erm... it was the information technology group
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] my usual yearly group
[Jan:] and they've cancelled?
[Richard:] Er, well... had a ca had a contract
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] for twelve hours, which was about two hundred and thirty quid
[Jan:] yes
[Richard:] er, I've signed the contract, the contracts has been handed, gone through the system
[Jan:] oh
[Richard:] er, our new esteemed leader
[Jan:] your new one the principal
[Richard:] the new principal has said it will not, contract will not be honoured
[Jan:] why? Can't
[Richard:] cos
[Jan:] afford it?
[Richard:] educational cutbacks
[Jan:] Oh
[Richard:] so that means it's er...
[Jan:] it's, they're not going
[Richard:] oh Peter said er just cancel it, he said oh, I said I know that Dick would, would go without, without payment
[Jan:] no
[Richard:] but I'm not prepared to let, let him go
[Jan:] well I don't see why he should
[Richard:] well they're not my students
[Jan:] oh... and you've got better things to do with your own time...
[Richard:] I could have done with the two hundred and thirty quid though
[Jan:] Well I know, but er
[Richard:] Well that'll pay the ferry
[Jan:] I know, I know it would have done
[Richard:] which is what I was relying on it
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] and I don't know what's gonna happen with my contract with nursery nurses in June then
[Jan:] Well er, is any other servicing being done? Is everybody getting their contract through?
[Richard:] No
[Jan:] Well I think you can wave bye-bye to that
[Richard:] I'm a bit annoyed to say the least, Peter's
[Jan:] Hopping
[Richard:] hopping mad
[Jan:] Well they should of said beforehand, before you got your hopes up
[Richard:] Yeah especially as er, I'll have to go and speak to er must get hold of John
[Jan:] John who? John
[Richard:] perhaps still tell him we've cancelled, we're cancelling
[Jan:] Yes... well they can always fill the hostel can't they?
[Richard:] Yeah...
[Jan:] Never mind we can go to the Lakes instead
[Richard:] so, er, I've still got the nursery nurses
[Jan:] Well we'll check that er no we'll check that you can still go with them, before Philip, cos Phil and Liz would appreciate an early warning
[Richard:] Yeah
[Jan:] if they can't, we'd better enquire about that... I wonder how little went on with his knee?
[Richard:] Yeah
[Jan:] He would have been alright
[Richard:] I think we'd have heard something
[Jan:] mm...
[Richard:] so er, I've got two Beta awards, weekends to do, I could do one Peter's weekend now
[Jan:] Mm...
[Richard:] that erm, that would mean I've just got one to do after half term, that er
[Jan:] Well why are you doing that with them? If they, erm don't need it anyway.
[Richard:] What d'ya mean?
[Jan:] Do they need the Beta award?
[Richard:] It's, it's a, it's an award, er... it's the module if they haven't got any awards really, I will, I'll arrange for them to do er first aid
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] do their St John's first aid next term...
[Jan:] they don't appreciate it do they?
[Richard:] No...
[Jan:] So do they see this as an imposition or
[Richard:] no
[Jan:] do they have to get
[Richard:] I mean they're the ones who are badgering me for, for qualifications, they're badgering me for, I, I, I just told them straight that I will do it for them because I, I won't get paid for it
[Jan:] mm...
[Richard:] on one condition
[Jan:] What?
[Richard:] the condition is there must be at least of 'em who are prepared to go, to bring me the money for the registration
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] for the first day of next term, and once I've got that money and they're registered...
[Jan:] you'll have a go
[Richard:] I'll have a go, but I'm not going to do it for two or three
[Jan:] No, don't see why you should. [sigh] How much does it cost?
[Richard:] Ten pounds
[Jan:] Erm
[Richard:] that says, tt, six pound, er, tt, three pound ten insurance and six pound ninety registration... so that should sort that out
[Jan:] Blimey you'll know soon enough won't ya?...
[Richard:] that's one thing for certain those weekends for averaging
[Jan:] Oh how's it, how is this averaging working out?
[Richard:] Not getting me for any extra hours that's a certain fact
[Jan:] Well you put enough in
[Richard:] er because they actually, I mean, the week, the week in Scotland we should have got overtime for that, but we haven't
[Jan:] But that's averaged in is it?
[Richard:] That's supposedly averaged in, yes, the fact is that Jenny and I both put in something like, well, it was five, forty, forty five hours plus technically that is classified as forty five hours class contact a week
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] it's five nine hour days, five, three session days... and er
[Jan:] well why didn't you get paid overtime?...
[Richard:] [sigh] Because our esteemed leader won't pay it.
[Jan:] So will you get time off in lieu?
[Richard:] Oh technically get time off, time off in lieu, but I can't take it, so
[Jan:] Well do you think it's time that you started taking time off in lieu? Make it erm
[Richard:] I can't, you can't, cos they won't let you take time off in lieu unless... if it involves them having to employ somebody else to cover...
[Jan:] But that's not the point, that's not time off is it?
[Richard:] I can, the only time off in lieu you can take is, is D and D time.
[Jan:] But you're off anyway
[Richard:] Well I'm not off, I'm just working in the off in the office, so I can take possibly some Thursday mornings off
[Jan:] Well, don't you think you ought to?...
[Richard:] Well I can't take any time off until after the exams, once the exams are over
[Jan:] Well what do the unions say about this, I mean
[Richard:] Well, the best way is to be ill after, after, after half term
[Jan:] Like most of us, that probably explains why a few people are
[Richard:] I mean at the moment, I mean from that one week
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] they owe me twenty one hours, twenty, twenty eight hours
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] er, from, I should get paid for the disabled games
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER] yes []
[Richard:] I hope to God I do get paid for that
[Jan:] well how much do you expect for that?
[Richard:] I expect six hours
[Jan:] Yeah, will that pay the ferry?
[Richard:] No, six hours is a, that'll be er, about a hundred quid
[Jan:] Oh it'll pay for a bit of the ferry... but has, has no one approached the unions?...
[Richard:] Er, I got paid, I got paid for the disabled games last year
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] so I should, er, that should have set the precedent, I get paid for it this year
[Jan:] well you got paid for your contracts, they let your contracts through the last time
[Richard:] er, then, so that's at least, well in fact that's more than sufficient, I should get paid more than six hours because I've been working on the students, on the disabled games all day Friday
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] and probab er probably Thursday morning as, as well, so I'll probably have Thursday, Friday... maybe Saturday, well, oh I should have, because by working on the games Thursday morning, that's another three hours, that's, brings me up to, twenty eight, yes twenty eight er... er thirty one... and er, I'll, I've got class top contacts time in the, in the afternoon, so that doesn't count, Friday I've got class, a two hour class, but er, tt, I'll be working outside, in fact that class will be cancelled that day, so it's er, so four hours that's thirty six er, Saturday... forty two, Tuesday... erm... tt, oh that week... I'll have a... six for Wednesday er... nine Thursday... er twelve... for Tuesday another twelve, plus the evening twelve, plus two, plus another six, that's eight and a half, eighteen, another eighteen hours
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] for that week
[Jan:] well what happens if you average more hours than you're supposed to average?
[Richard:] so, so, so what have I then forty two, so that's six and that's sixty hours
[Jan:] What was the, what was the point in averaging in the first place? To make sure you worked a certain amount of time during the year?
[Richard:] Yes, to make certain that er, you didn't er have any time off, it, any time free after the, after the students have finished their exams
[Jan:] Oh, so what happens if you
[Richard:] all this, all this, it is, it is for, cos what they're trying, what they're trying to work is the fact that er you're supposed to have twenty one hours' class contact
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] and if er, what they're trying to do is... so that you work say twenty three hours... the class contact, you, you can't be averaged for more than two hours a week, so you need twenty three hours for the first two terms
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] and er
[Jan:] that makes up for the time you, then doing the
[Richard:] after the exams or something like that, yes
[Jan:] but you, if you're due for time off in lieu, couldn't you take, couldn't you say that erm... use that for the averages?
[Richard:] Tt, well at... at the moment I am therefore due in actual fact two weeks' holiday
[Jan:] [sigh] That's a stupid situation
[Richard:] and if, and if I do two Beta award weekends
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] I'm due three weeks' holiday
[Jan:] well er...
[Richard:] so it's er...
[Jan:] what happens if you're actually averaging more than twenty one hours throughout the year?
[Richard:] If I was doing more than my twenty one hours throughout the year
[Jan:] Do you get paid overtime?
[Richard:] you're supposed to get paid overtime...
[Jan:] And will you be?
[Richard:] No
[Jan:] [sneeze]
[Richard:] no overtime is being paid
[Jan:] And have people stopped doing the work?...
[Richard:] The interesting thing is some departments are still doing overtime
[Jan:] They're being paid?
[Richard:] Yeah, but, but our dep our, our department our fat slob won't allow it... won't let us have any overtime
[Jan:] He wants time off in lieu.
[Richard:] he wants you to have time off in lieu
[Jan:] Well then why don't you take time off in lieu?
[Richard:] I can't take time off in lieu cos I haven't got any lieu time to take off
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER] You must have, you, you must have [] you keep telling me that you're doing all these extra hours and you're owed two weeks' holiday
[Richard:] Well... on a Monday okay I have an hour in the morning, I have the first hour in the morning... and er... oh God....
[Jan:] What you forgotten?...
[Richard:] well this er, I've got this class on, on, they've amalgamated the two classes together so
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] so now I have Monday afternoon D and D, so it's, I have four hours on, on Monday
[Jan:] And you can't come home cos you'll be doing a split shift on the
[Richard:] I can't come home because I'm, I'm working four thirty to seven thirty... or five or, five till eight
[Jan:] Thursday mornings you could take off
[Richard:] I can't now because the class, the Monday night's class has now been put on to Thursday morning
[Jan:] Monday nights?
[Richard:] the Monday
[Jan:] Afternoon.
[Richard:] afternoon, erm from this week
[Jan:] What about Friday?
[Richard:] I've got the uniform services... I'll have er four, four fitness training on a Thursday morning
[Jan:] Well er
[Richard:] so I've got er
[Jan:] where does that leave you your free time?
[Richard:] Well
[Jan:] Besides Monday afternoon
[Richard:] I've got Monday afternoon
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] I've got nine hours D and D, I've got four hours on a Monday
[Jan:] yeah
[Richard:] er, nine till eleven on a Friday, that's, that's six, and er two fifteen to four fifteen
[Jan:] Well why don't you go in late on a Friday?
[Richard:] plus eight... pardon?
[Jan:] Why don't you go in late, go in for eleven o'clock on a Friday
[Richard:] I can't do that because it's, a Friday morning is team meetings time
[Jan:] Where?
[Richard:] meetings with the principal, meetings with... this, that and everything
[Jan:] Well wouldn't it be making a point if erm everybody who was owed this time took it regardless
[Richard:] the only time I can possibly take off
[Jan:] get militant about it
[Richard:] is Friday afternoon
[Jan:] Well and why don't ya?
[Richard:] I, I er, looks like erm teaching eleven fifteen to one fifteen... my lunch hour is say one fifteen to two fifteen... and technically I can er... have it, I could probably, I could be, take off Friday afternoon, it's the only time I could take off for averaging
[Jan:] Well I wish you would
[Richard:] that's the only time I can take off time off in lieu, which is annoying
[Jan:] Well why'd, I wish you would and I wish you'd er, they'd be a, what you needs is a concerted comprehensive effort from everybody... be inconvenient as possible until the money stumps up... don't know where the money comes from though...
[Richard:] I don't know what to do, tt I can't really take that... them all take that er... I don't want to kick the boat too hard
[Jan:] Why?
[Richard:] Tt, cos I don't want to be made redundant by being awkward
[Jan:] Well not until you're fifty anyway...
[Richard:] I can't afford to go at fifty, I've gotta go till fifty five
[Jan:] What if they offered you ten years' redundant?...
[Richard:] I couldn't even afford that because I haven't worked, even enough on my AVCs...
[Jan:] [sighing] Aye []...
[Richard:] I've got to get that those AVCs er, I mean if I had to, if that happened, how would we pay off Brian?
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] How would the, I wouldn't have any money from the AVCs either...
[Jan:] aye, well, just keep, keep on trucking
[Richard:] so it's keep
[Jan:] five years
[Richard:] so it's keep a high profile on the, on useful things and keep a low profile on the, on the others
[Jan:] mm, mm... aye...
[Richard:] the only way of doing it, except you know, you're known for, for all the good things, the good things you do... just make certain that er... we don't rock the boat [sigh] so you, so you
[Jan:] you crawled
[Richard:] you crawl and slave
[Jan:] yes, this is life.... What do you want as your little birthday present?...
[Richard:] I don't know
[Jan:] Neither do I, that's why I'm asking you, cos I won't have time to shop
[Richard:] A Magi light torch then
[Jan:] What's a Magi light torch? Where do I get one of them?
[Richard:] Steve's
[Jan:] Right... has he got one?...
[Richard:] Well he had one earlier in the year
[Jan:] Oh, right, what's the Magi light torch?
[Richard:] Just a little pocket, a little tiny, tiny torch with a very strong beam
[Jan:] Mm, mm, right, well you need a torch actually
[Richard:] mm
[Jan:] those head torches aren't very reliable...
[Richard:] it's that or a new head torch, but if I got a new head torch it, it perhaps... but they're about, they're about thirty quid I think
[Jan:] Well we've got one that doesn't work
[Richard:] the one?
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] Oh it's all
[Jan:] the one Jim give you
[Richard:] yeah... I never got it working
[Jan:] No
[Richard:] but I never tried really... but they're the best ones you can buy
[Jan:] Yeah.... There was a bit in the paper today about er Ratners, in the Samuels outlet selling carriage clocks for three hundred pounds and claiming that they are solid mahogany cases, but as they're chipboard with a mahogany veneer, and er they've been had by the Trades Descriptions Act, three, who would pay three hundred pounds... for a mahogany one anyway?...
[Richard:] Couldn't get away with three
[Jan:] And how can they get away with charging three hundred pounds? For a w for a carriage clock...
[Richard:] Well, when you can pay fifteen hundred pounds for a watch
[Jan:] Yes but you expect the value in it
[Richard:] Ah, well what value is it, a watch tells the time... whether it's three hundred pounds or three, three pounds
[Jan:] Or Mickey Mouse, yes... it just depends on the, the metals used in it, the jewellery on it, the movement
[Richard:] mm...
[Jan:] the maker's name... [cough] [sniff] it must be bedtime now Dick
[Richard:] It must be getting close
[Jan:] mm, do you need a bath?
[Richard:] I could do with one I suppose
[Jan:] Well there's plenty of hot water... you'd better get packing tomorrow night
[Richard:] Mm, get packing during the day
[Jan:] get packing, mm...
[Richard:] cos I'm not going to work tomorrow
[Jan:] good...
[Richard:] it is my day off, let's face it...
[Jan:] Well you won't have a car, well you would
[Richard:] Oh I will, cos I'll have the Peugeot won't I?
[Jan:] Yes, they've got on quite well with the erm wall at the back, but there's, Geoff's got his car outside and the skip was in the police access road rather than ours
[Richard:] The skip's up there now?
[Jan:] Mm...
[Richard:] Cos the skip was at the end there this, this morning, it was there at lunchtime, er, well when I went in
[Jan:] It was there in the morning, they've moved it since, I suppose they move it to where they're working but
[Richard:] Aye, probably er, it's probably mean it's a new skip probably
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] the other one was full
[Jan:] are they going to put railings up to the same height as the wall?
[Richard:] No
[Jan:] What are they going to do?
[Richard:] They're putting a flat coping up...
[Jan:] Well, mm, won't that make it very easy for terrorists to, to hop over the low wall and avoid the enormous nine foot gate they've got, sticking up like a sore thumb now... wouldn't that be rather redundant?
[Richard:] Yeah... totally redundant
[Jan:] Will they now take it down?
[Richard:] I doubt it
[Jan:] I suppose it's to stop cars parking up now is it?
[Richard:] That would be the sensible thing, to remove that gate down to the far end
[Jan:] Aye, yes...
[Richard:] but... tt, it would probably... cost more to go and take it down then it would be to, to get a new gate
[Jan:] I don't know what's supporting it, and they're going to erm... are they?
[Richard:] I would think so... they've gotta go and plant, start planting ivies and things to drape down the wall
[Jan:] I hope they're going to support the wall at the, our end... they've done nothing, I suppose they've just taken it down, but they must be doing something to underpin it or bolster it
[Richard:] Not that I know of, er, I mean
[Jan:] Have you spoken to them?
[Richard:] I've spoken to the guy and he's, said the architect was coming at lunchtime
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] at two o'clock this afternoon, er, because he was, he thought they ought to go on, totally rebuild of the fire on the
[Jan:] Fire
[Richard:] corner particularly
[Jan:] yeah, well they need to... what the main building?
[Richard:] Yeah
[Jan:] And the architectures needs to...
[Richard:] cos it was hitting the wall, the whole thing was, you could watch the vibrations coming down the wall [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] What, just, it's not a safe road then is it?
[Richard:] No
[Jan:] Especially if it's been loosened and clobbered.... Did he call the architect in? Or was the architect due to come in?
[Richard:] The architect was due to come anyway.
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] So how far have they got now?
[Jan:] Well they're down by Anita and Bob's
[Richard:] Oh they've just got on well
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] they were outside us about er eleven o'clock
[Jan:] mm... er yeah they should be done by [yawning] Friday I should think [] cos if all they're doing is putting a coping edge on... it'll make it look nicer at the back.
[Richard:] Yes, it'll give it more light
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] to the yard, to the, not to the yard but to the
[Jan:] to the lane
[Richard:] to the lane...
[Jan:] they must do something about the park court this summer, get the perspex sheeting renew renewed
[Richard:] and er... get some lead sheeting to, have to go and chip out the, out of the wall
[Jan:] Which wall?
[Richard:] Elsie's wall... so that the water doesn't come down here, down the wall... what you need to do is put the, lead sheeting... chipping out from the, the block, chip, chip into the, the rendering, put lead sheeting into it, cement the rendering back in again
[Jan:] Mm... we need
[Richard:] so so you, you've got a seal because otherwise all that happens is that er... er you put the cement onto the, every time the, the water gets down the back of the cement, down the wall
[Jan:] Mm, I think we need to call, we get, get a builder in because we need that, that roof seeing to at the back....
[Richard:] That's gonna be expensive...
[Jan:] Well, can't be helped, I mean we can't have water coming through that, that's down the soil pipe, can't have that open for ever
[Richard:] What's it like then I wonder?
[Jan:] Well it's still coming in... it wasn't desperate, but it's still coming in...
[Richard:] Dunno where it's coming from actually
[Jan:] No, that's the problem with flat roofs, bet we need a yard seeing, we need a... [sigh] we need a, effort in the yard
[Richard:] Alright I can do that then two weeks before you break up
[Jan:] I don't, I don't think it's a job we can do, maybe if we get erm Angela's building contractor... there's one or two little building jobs that we need, there's the damp patch in the chimney breast in there....
[Richard:] I'd ignore that
[Jan:] You can't ignore it... it's the first thing a buyer will, a buyer's survey will pick up, especially as it was mentioned in our survey...
[Richard:] Oh that means we've gotta totally dec redecorate that room
[Jan:] Well I want to do that anyway
[Richard:] Oh bloody hell... I hate
[Jan:] more upheaval
[Richard:] What?
[Jan:] More upheaval for ya
[Richard:] Yeah, exactly... unnecessary
[Jan:] It's not unnecessary
[Richard:] I mean it's not that long since that room was done
[Jan:] When was it done then?
[Richard:] I don't know
[Jan:] Well then
[Richard:] oh
[Jan:] and as you don't have anything to do with the decorating anyway I don't know what you're peeved about... you like it before and then you like it after, and you're quite content to let me do the bit in the middle.... How much longer?
[Richard:] I don't know
[Jan:] Well let's have a, let's go to bed
[Richard:] Oh go and get this, finish this side off
[Jan:] Well how much longer is there on it?
[Richard:] I can't see... it's very close to the end
[Jan:] Oh well
[Richard:] so we might as well get that forty five minutes finished
[Jan:] [sighing] oh yeah []... I've run out of conversation now... you'll have to record Star Trek for me tomorrow.
[Richard:] As long as I haven't got to watch it
[Jan:] There was a nice moggy programme on yesterday.
[Richard:] Was there?
[Jan:] yeah
[Richard:] What time was that on?
[Jan:] Half eight, Desmond Morris, Tiger and showed you how a cat could use a door knob...
[Richard:] Mm, how'd he get up to it?
[Jan:] Well it must have been a tall, a long cat and a low door [LAUGHTER] but it would lift the knocker and knock its way in
[Richard:] Must of been a tiger what the, well couldn't have been a cat
[Jan:] It was a cat
[Richard:] a cat, no cat'd, can reach a door knob
[Jan:] This one could, it could just about reach it over its paw and flicked it up and knocked on the door
[Richard:] That's huge
[Jan:] it doesn't matter, I've got it on tape... cats are
[Richard:] there is no way a cat no way a cat can reach that door knob
[Jan:] Well there's no way our cat could... but this cat did
[Richard:] It must have been bloody huge
[Jan:] Well perhaps it was... it was a long I don't know, but it did and I'll show you on the video if you want
[Richard:] Oh I don't want to watch the video
[Jan:] You don't like moggies?
[Richard:] No
[Jan:] You do
[Richard:] I don't like moggies...
[Jan:] lots of little black cats
[Richard:] I'll tell you one thing, nineteen ninety three had better come round
[Jan:] So you can take Puddy abroad
[Richard:] yeah, cos I'm not er paying, I'm not giving up my summer holidays and... I want me five weeks
[Jan:] then Puddy will be able to have a pet passport, anti-rabies shot and she's away
[Richard:] Trouble is when, they take her abroad and travel in a caravan
[Jan:] Well by that time we'll be into caravans won't we?...
[Richard:] cos I think we're going to lock her up during the day
[Jan:] Mm, you can't lock her in a tent can you?
[Richard:] No... she'd do too much damage to a tent as well
[Jan:] Mm, mm she might do
[Richard:] What, might, would do, let's face it
[Jan:] Well she can only scratch it inside...
[Richard:] she'd be climbing in the inside of it and ripping it
[Jan:] like Russell mouse, Russell
[Richard:] yeah
[Jan:] mouse does more damage than Puddy
[Richard:] What damage did he do?
[Jan:] Why he chewed the apron
[Richard:] Oh yes he did
[Jan:] little mouse the apron...
[Richard:] that's right he did yes the sod
[Jan:] Yeah [LAUGHTER]...
[Richard:] What was that I told him, called?
[Jan:] Randolf, because he went under the car and then he off... [sigh]... can you post my, the thing to the A A tomorrow?
[Richard:] Yes...
[Jan:] Telling them where they can put their cards... in the best possible term...
[Richard:] That's ridiculous
[Jan:] well they must realize that they've undercut us considerably by everybody else
[Richard:] that's, that seemed like a total hundred percent that was
[Jan:] I know...
[Richard:] er, there wasn't much difference if you didn't go abroad
[Jan:] no...
[Richard:] but to, to go abroad three times, it'd be a hundred and, it'd cost two hun two hundred pounds
[Jan:] Extra?
[Richard:] Mm
[Jan:] Oh...
[Richard:] cos it's forty six, fifty four and sixty eight I think it was
[Jan:] mm...
[Richard:] and your membership on top of that
[Jan:] [yawning] plus your [] and your Home Start and your Relay
[Richard:] Mm... well I think this is, enough of this side
[Jan:] mm
[Richard:] enough it might have just about finished, I think we'll stop it at that then
[Jan:] fill the fill the thing
[Richard:] [phonecall starts] Hi
[speaker003:] Hello there.
[Richard:] hello, how are you?
[speaker003:] Very well thanks and yourself?
[Richard:] Yeah, not so bad
[speaker003:] Yeah, good I was just gonna say Dick, can you, I'll, I'll give you a ring back it's just that we're in the middle of eating
[Richard:] Rightio
[speaker003:] so I'll give you a ring back as soon as we've finished.
[Richard:] Okey-doke
[speaker003:] Okay
[Richard:] Okay
[speaker003:] bye now.
[Richard:] bye no problem, cheers [phonecall ends].... That all you want over here?...
[Jan:] Right, you slipping that in?
[Richard:] No I haven't, no it's, it's er one thing I need to put in... that one that due to wear to go in... I can see those, that cream out there can you?... You can't see it there can you?
[Jan:] What?
[Richard:] The cream
[Jan:] No, well, I wasn't looking for it actually.
[Richard:] cos it wasn't in the er, in the first aid drawer.
[Jan:] I don't think we've unpacked it from when we went...
[Richard:] I can't remember unpacking it... it's not in the er... in the ski bag.
[Jan:] worry about
[Richard:] Can always get another one anyway, it'll always turn up later on...
[Jan:] One towel
[Richard:] One towel, right
[Jan:] two towels
[Richard:] so it's the sheet sleeping bag
[Jan:] sheet sleeping bag, two pillow cases, mm... two small towels...
[Richard:] I suppose we only really need two small towels to
[Jan:] Well you'll be bathing every night
[Richard:] I suppose so, yes... now do you want, suppose we could use the, the two square... ski bags to put the bits in couldn't we?...
[Jan:] No
[Richard:] As opposed to the one long one and the, and the one boot shape one... er, that's all yours is it, there is it?
[Jan:] Well you said you'd put in, yes it is basically
[Richard:] The only thing to go in is wash bags and they go in the small rucksack anyway, erm... [clears throat] do you want these pink ones?
[Jan:] Yes
[Richard:] I thought we'd, if I took that up across with us, we could put er ski clothing in that
[Jan:] yes and what sort of, have you packed me ski socks in? the blue socks have ya?
[Richard:] I've got here, I've got your long, two pairs of long johns
[Jan:] Mm I only actually need one pair of them
[Richard:] er, yeah, I've got your two, er polo necks, there's your hat, your gloves, your socks... er your glasses
[Jan:] Mm, I'd need these in the car wouldn't I?
[Richard:] Yeah, put those in the car as well, that's the er
[Jan:] Money purse
[Richard:] pardon?
[Jan:] money purse
[Richard:] That's the er kitty purse really... all my stuff is in there... everything to pack that, the rest in there, cos I've got in there, socks, underwear, er
[Jan:] Long johns?
[Richard:] two pairs of long johns
[Jan:] Vests?
[Richard:] three pairs of vests
[Jan:] Shirt?
[Richard:] two, two shirts for wearing on the slopes, one pair, one pair for wearing in the evening, I've got one shirt to go in and the one I'm wearing as I, as I go out
[Jan:] Mm
[Richard:] so that's, that's all tied up, er...
[Jan:] sun glasses and goggles?
[Richard:] er sun glasses are there, goggles, oh those are go those are goggles, sun glasses are in the car, er... that's it and that, er, hats, er
[Jan:] Scarf?
[Richard:] scarf
[Jan:] I haven't got a scarf
[Richard:] glasses, er, that's all in, in the boot bag
[Jan:] in, put the scarf
[Richard:] the er, all the ski waxing stuff is in the boot of the car already
[Jan:] Right, well we'll just need to stuff it in the bag then.
[Richard:] Yeah, yeah, that's all that needs doing.
[Jan:] Right, when you, off you go then dear, you want to put that stuff in?
[Richard:] Yes, otherwise we'll
[Jan:] You're very good at stuffing, you're very good
[Richard:] well, that's the one thing I'm expert at, yes, so, so says my birthday card
[Jan:] Yes
[Richard:] no it doesn't actually it says you're the opposite doesn't it?
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER] Yes
[Richard:] Mind you, you haven't, he doesn't know [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] [cough]
[Richard:] gone of the days of records
[Jan:] yeah, well let's keep going dear
[Richard:] cos I'm a right old bugger now
[Jan:] yeah, terribly, terribly weary...
[Richard:] certainly can't manage what I used to be able to...
[Jan:] Do you think we need all these socks?
[Richard:] Do you want that as, what are you wearing to go in?
[Jan:] Oh I'll wear this and me leggings... don't think we'll need to take a dressing gown do you?...
[Richard:] Don't suppose so, no yes
[Jan:] nobody's going to be prancing around like Noel Coward at the end of a ski day...
[Richard:] That can go in the
[Jan:] the other bag
[Richard:] the other bag... right, I'll fold them then... God they look revolting these things don't they Jan?
[Jan:] What, long johns?
[Richard:] Long skinny legs, green
[Jan:] Long green skinny legs and knee bolts, knee joints, colour
[Richard:] don't know...
[Jan:] is that my disabled one?
[Richard:] I think so
[Jan:] Right, well, I don't think I need this one because I've got me red one
[Richard:] Have you?
[Jan:] I'm not, no sorry, the blue one, and I'm not, I don't sweat do I?
[Richard:] Er, no ladies always perspire
[Jan:] No ladies glow, men perspire or sweat
[Richard:] oh, oh, oh right, mm...
[Jan:] I doubt I need my goggles will I?
[Richard:] I don't know...
[Jan:] [yawning] Need my glasses now will I []?...
[Richard:] er... that's about it, innit?
[Jan:] Erm, you putting your torch in?
[Richard:] Yes that's downstairs
[Jan:] Right, your birthday present.
[Richard:] I thought I'd leave that in the car actually
[Jan:] Yeah that's
[Richard:] cos that's er, where it's available, mind you, you look quite fetching there, I think I might do, I might be tempted here
[Jan:] Yeah... what else have we got to put in then?
[Richard:] Can't think of anything, there's... everything else is in
[Jan:] The bag won't do up will it?... Sound very easy, no complications
[Richard:] Haven't put a swimming costume in
[Jan:] Mm, you're not likely to go swimming
[Richard:] I don't know if there's swimming in I mean places of
[Jan:] There'll be swimming there.... Oh yes there's a wee bit of room still...
[Richard:] could of put in, could of put in there, six inches' worth in there...
[Jan:] been not, right what can we put in the pocket, erm, give us a scarf, anything, er
[Richard:] Put scarfs in
[Jan:] put towels in? We've got the two towels, we've got the two towels
[Richard:] The two towels are in, the small two towels are in, the er, the
[Jan:] do we need a small towel actually in the overnight bag?
[Richard:] Mm, I suppose we could do with a tea towel size one, oh, I haven't got a tea towel in
[Jan:] Well, and are taking four
[Richard:] Pardon?
[Jan:] they're taking four, it's on their list of four
[Richard:] Fo four
[Jan:] Yeah
[Richard:] four tea towels?
[Jan:] Yes
[Richard:] [cough]
[speaker003:] ...
[Richard:] [phonecall starts] Hello... hello [telephone conversation ends].... That was a waste of time, I thought that were being Paul actually
[Jan:] What he say?
[Richard:] They were right in a middle of a meal
[Jan:] Right...
[speaker003:] [phonecall starts] Hello, hello there Dick it's Paul here
[Richard:] [phonecall starts] Hi. Did you ring a moment ago?
[speaker003:] Yes I did
[Richard:] Oh.
[speaker003:] I didn't know whether I'd put in the right number and I thought well I'll, I won't let anyone answer it, I'll just re-dial. [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] Ah cos er I picked it up and said hello and that was it
[speaker003:] Oh I see I must of just been putting it down at that time
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] I thought, oh I wonder if I've got the right number here [LAUGHTER] yeah but you're both well then?
[Richard:] Yes, we've got er, I think we're, we're just packing at the moment
[speaker003:] Aha
[Richard:] er I think we're more or less set really.
[speaker003:] ah that's great
[Richard:] How, how are you doing?
[speaker003:] We're, we're sort of just about, you know there's the last minute things to put in, but, barring that, what we've done is to put it in a lot of small bags rather than big cases
[Richard:] Yeah
[speaker003:] so it should slide in alright
[Richard:] oh yeah, er, well I've got this one big waterproof bag
[speaker003:] Yeah
[Richard:] which is my old er, my canoe bag
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] which they're dry bags for putting in canoes to put all, to keep your wet stuff
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] er to keep everything, everything dry
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] and er I thought I, I's gonna put our ski stuff, our ski er etcetera in that on the roof
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] cos they're, they're out the way
[speaker003:] right, right
[Richard:] and er
[speaker003:] just see how it goes when you get here then won't we?
[Richard:] I think on that, looking at it on a logical basis, er, I think our stuff will take up one third of the boot
[speaker003:] Oh well they're should be no problem at all then
[Richard:] er because I think if I, if I put one, my one big bag, which takes up about a third, er, er
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] and the boot bags on top
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] I think it'll all fit in one side
[speaker003:] oh that's brilliant, oh we should be alright then
[Richard:] I think we should have, I, I've borrowed, I've managed to borrow a set of change as well
[speaker003:] Oh have ya? Oh that saves a bit of er worry doesn't it?
[Richard:] Yeah, so
[speaker003:] So, have ya, have ya seen the snow conditions then?
[Richard:] No, er, I, apparently I saw on the Teletext last night
[speaker003:] Yes
[Richard:] it was a hundred and twenty five in the valley and er, two hundred and fifty on top
[speaker003:] that's right, it's, it's pretty good going anyway
[Richard:] yeah, I think it was still minus temperatures
[speaker003:] that's super isn't it?
[Richard:] so it sounds as though it could be good
[speaker003:] Yeah
[Richard:] it's not so good down the valley at
[speaker003:] no that's right, I've heard some bad er
[Richard:] cos, er, apparently there, there was fifteen centimetres
[Jan:] [phonecall starts] On top
[speaker003:] that's right, it's very poor elsewhere
[Richard:] on er, yeah
[speaker003:] looks like we may have struck lucky, cross fingered and everything else
[Richard:] well I mean it is the most er reliable high resort
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] er, which just as well we've been there before [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER] yeah, sure
[Richard:] so, er
[speaker003:] did you, did you get Cath's letter by the way earlier?
[Richard:] yes
[speaker003:] Good
[Richard:] er Jan's, Jan's
[speaker003:] Cath's just put a few things together and thought well I may as well let you, you know, she may as well let you know what the things she's put in
[Richard:] Right, well we're putting in er things, some tea bags, er sugar
[speaker003:] Yeah
[Jan:] Cornflour
[Richard:] corn er cornflour
[speaker003:] aha, that you always forget hmm
[Richard:] er
[Jan:] yeah
[Richard:] some mixed herbs and er, and er, and cornflakes
[speaker003:] Right, right, great
[Richard:] er we'll bring the pressure cooker with us
[speaker003:] You're taking a pressure are ya? Right
[Richard:] if, and we'll see how much space we've got when we get to your house
[speaker003:] aye and then if it won't, it won't and
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] if it will fair enough
[Richard:] er because pressure cookers do, I mean they're marvellous for going, getting the stew going in about er ten minutes flat [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] aye, yes that's true...
[Richard:] er, I think er, I mean everything else is tied up, the green card's arrived the er
[speaker003:] lovely
[Richard:] erm, the R A C Reflex is all sorted and paid
[speaker003:] that's great
[Richard:] and paid for er and er, what I can remember the, the ferry gets in at, is it seven thirty in the morning?
[speaker003:] It's something like that, I think it, yes, I think it's around about seven
[Richard:] Er, I've got er, I've almost abso three quarters promised to go and call on some friends in on the way through
[Jan:] On the camp site.
[Richard:] on the camp site, in somewhere east
[Jan:] So it'll be time for a cup of tea
[Richard:] so it'll be time for a cup of tea
[speaker003:] alright, yeah
[Richard:] er
[speaker003:] I mean that's no problem
[Richard:] I mean I've got er there's Vicky, Vicky and her group from, from Morpeth
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] er so
[speaker003:] so this is, that's all, that's down in the valley?
[Richard:] That's in the valley just er just
[speaker003:] That's right you told us, you said there was some people at
[Richard:] yeah and er
[speaker003:] that's no problem
[Richard:] there's also my cousin going, er, and er, her husband
[speaker003:] yes er
[Richard:] and also a friend of mine who's what, and er, well best man to twenty five, well...
[Jan:] How many years ago?
[Richard:] twenty eight years ago now
[speaker003:] Oh one or two [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] yeah [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] so
[speaker003:] oh that'll be good
[Richard:] there's a there's a whole gang down there
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] er, so, we'll probably arrange... for, to meet up with them sometime, somewhere
[speaker003:] yeah, oh yeah
[Richard:] erm, erm... but erm apart from that I think everything is er
[speaker003:] I think we're all ship shape, so how lo how far is it on the other side? Do you know exactly?
[Jan:] Ten hours
[Richard:] Well
[speaker003:] ten hours you reckon?
[Richard:] well, well Vicky reckoned it was ten hours from Calais
[speaker003:] Yeah and there's probably
[Richard:] and I reckon I reckon we're, we're an hour short at Calais because er, we save about eighty kilometres
[speaker003:] Yeah
[Richard:] by going er Portsmouth
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] er, and er we also have a very short section on the in Paris
[speaker003:] yes yes
[Richard:] which means, which again will save time I reckon
[speaker003:] yeah, yeah
[Richard:] so, er, and I reckon probably the best, best way is to go, so, motorway as much as we can, down, well down to
[speaker003:] oh yes just, slam down the motorway absolutely
[Richard:] then head for Geneva
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] and er we turn, it's about forty kilometres shorter to go via to Geneva via
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] and along the side of lake to
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] is to go through
[speaker003:] aye
[Richard:] and er out to
[speaker003:] can be an absolute swine can't it?
[Richard:] Yeah that's right
[speaker003:] Traffic wise
[Richard:] so, so I reckon, I mean even though it's Sunday I th I think we're better off going through er
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] going that way
[speaker003:] have you, have you got all the necessary maps then?
[Richard:] Yes
[speaker003:] I don't need to worry about things like that
[Richard:] no, no
[speaker003:] right
[Richard:] I've got the, this year's Michelin er
[speaker003:] oh that's great
[Richard:] er, big map
[speaker003:] right, right, I'll just leave that it's
[Richard:] ah
[speaker003:] just things I don't have to worry about then really
[Richard:] er, the, I mean I don't know what with, well, we'll see how things go when we're there, we're down there, I mean er, er if the snow's not so good towards the end of the week we'll, we just head back don't we?
[speaker003:] Oh yes, yes
[Richard:] Er and er
[speaker003:] as simple that
[Richard:] I mean
[speaker003:] you can worry about that at the early end of the week
[Richard:] yeah [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] I mean the one little thing that might be nice, it might be er, a romantic weekend, er a romantic day in Paris
[speaker003:] Oh yes I'm on er well it's a holiday isn't I mean er
[Richard:] a, a stroll down the or something like that on the way back
[speaker003:] yeah that sounds very
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] yeah, you and I arm in arm Dick
[Richard:] yes [LAUGHTER] that's it, yeah [] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] well I wasn't quite thinking that actually [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] and er what time do you reckon then, you'll need to pick us up? Cos that, that was the main erm
[Richard:] I'll, I reckon that er we would leave here just before nine and
[speaker003:] right
[Richard:] get to you som somewhere about er half nine, quarter to ten
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] and aim to get away about ten o'clock
[speaker003:] right
[Richard:] er, that way, I mean, I think it's giving us loads, extra time, but er
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] I don't know what the roadworks are like on the A one
[speaker003:] no I've no idea
[Richard:] er, I know that erm, they were bad when we went down at half term
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] er, and er
[Jan:] perhaps best to use the M one
[Richard:] and, we can always go and spend some time at er, we'll easy get a meal in Portsmouth anyway
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] er, we felt the Pizza Hut's quite good in Portsmouth
[speaker003:] aye, I think ya
[Richard:] but
[speaker003:] I think ya mentioned that once before and I
[Richard:] down s down
[speaker003:] I quite like Pizza Hut
[Jan:] but we haven't had, skied on those before
[Richard:] down in
[speaker003:] ah, that's the thing to worry about isn't it? We can't really be out of er eye shot of the car is it?
[Jan:] No
[speaker003:] That's the, the main problem
[Richard:] yeah...
[speaker003:] we'll have to, we'll have to work it in shifts
[Richard:] yeah well
[Jan:] yeah
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] you must, bringing the take away out
[speaker003:] yeah [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] we'll have a take away in the car park
[speaker003:] oh we'll sort something out
[Richard:] oh yes
[speaker003:] erm, so you reckon you'll get here about ten o'clock?
[Richard:] Well about quarter to ten I reckon
[speaker003:] About quarter to ten
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] right
[Richard:] and, hopefully we can sort of aim to, to be in, in and away in a, quarter of an hour, twenty minutes or
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] unless it takes half an hour, well half an hour anyway
[speaker003:] cos I mean how many hours driving will there be in this country, about eight?
[Richard:] [sigh]
[speaker003:] Ee, I mean if everything went alright, it's about eight hours isn't it?
[Richard:] I would think if everything went right, it would be something like seven hours
[speaker003:] Yeah
[Richard:] but er
[speaker003:] the likelihood of that
[Richard:] er I just don't know what it's gonna be like, er, so I think if we, well at ten o'clock, if we left at ten, we've got twelve hours to get down there
[speaker003:] That's right, cos it'll be an hour, well to get there an hour before anyway won't we for the ferry?
[Richard:] I'd of thought so we have to be there, down there at eleven
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] er which we stop for... er we probably have a cup of tea a couple of times on the way down
[speaker003:] that's right, yeah
[Richard:] er, so
[speaker003:] so I think that's about right Dick, I think you're probably right
[Richard:] yeah, so I think it's better to be on the safe side than er, than rush it
[speaker003:] well it is, yeah
[Richard:] I mean once we're on the other side it doesn't really matter
[speaker003:] no
[Richard:] er
[speaker003:] it will be, it will be nice to get there sort of before it gets dark wouldn't it on the other side?
[Richard:] Yeah
[Jan:] Oh yeah
[Richard:] I mean what I'd like to do to be, to be honest, I don't know if we will do is er be at er, at er Borg by about half four, five o'clock
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] and up at the resort by half six
[speaker003:] that's right
[Richard:] that's what
[speaker003:] that would be nice
[Richard:] that's what I'd like
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] but whether, you, you never know in this world [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] well that's right, but what, what happens with the er hour in France is it, is it
[Richard:] It
[speaker003:] an hour lighter or, or an hour darker?
[Richard:] well it goes
[Jan:] Goes on an hour
[Richard:] it goes, it goes on an hour
[speaker003:] So it's an hour light, more light isn't it?
[Richard:] it's an hour more light, but with, but, but probably an hour further south
[speaker003:] Yeah that's right
[Richard:] so there so therefore even itself out
[speaker003:] yeah true
[Richard:] I think I think it gets dark earlier than it does up here for example
[speaker003:] Aha, aha yeah
[Richard:] because of the er
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] er... it's something even, even though got, because it's about half an hour di is, is it, is it half an hour difference between here and London?
[speaker003:] I can't, I can't, I honestly don't know
[Richard:] And I think it's probably at least another half an hour difference down there
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] er, and with the hour's difference I think it works out about the same
[speaker003:] yeah, that's right, there's nowt worse than being jiggered though is there when you get to your apartment
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] so with I think that's inevitable though really
[Richard:] well er, and I thought we'd probably stop at er on the way in, if we wanted to, to go and get any basic provisions at the, the big
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] the big hypermarket in the
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] valley, cos that's cheaper
[speaker003:] right
[Richard:] and er, cos Jan's
[speaker003:] well again we'll, we'll see what the time is like won't we?
[Richard:] Yeah yeah, yeah
[speaker003:] Well wasn't the
[Richard:] when Jan's er, it's Jan's birthday on Sunday as well which it
[speaker003:] Is it?
[Richard:] yeah [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] Yeah my birthday
[speaker003:] Well, if you'd only let us know we'd of
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] take an Easter egg with us [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] Baked a cake
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] Oh we've got, we've got the, we've got some Easter chocolates with us
[speaker003:] Have you?
[Jan:] Have we?
[speaker003:] I've got, I've just got one small box
[Jan:] I don't think we have
[speaker003:] a token gesture
[Richard:] I got some truffles from er
[speaker003:] Oh yeah
[Richard:] er... the winners have this special deal at the moment
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] these, these boxes of French chocolate truffles at ninety nine pence a piece
[speaker003:] good Lord
[Richard:] erm
[speaker003:] go and take them to France and sell them to the French [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER] they're [] French ones as well, so actually er, I've got two boxes of them in the boot, in the boot of the car [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER] God
[Jan:] They're quite nice
[Richard:] They're very nice actually
[speaker003:] Don't you've got me mouth watering
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] Yeah
[speaker003:] mind you, I've, we've just finished eating our tea, we've been out to all hours doing the lawn, you know cutting the lawns all round the house
[Richard:] Oh yeah
[speaker003:] this evening was lovely wasn't it?
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] Fabulous weather...
[Jan:] yes, we'll be leaving that behind I suppose
[speaker003:] Aye apparently though, the, the weather's closing in though isn't it? Er, er Sunday
[Richard:] Yeah
[speaker003:] apparently the weather's getting worse
[Richard:] tt, apparently it's gonna be good over Europe, on, on Saturday
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] er, so hope to, to be perfectly honest it would be rather nice if we had a, had a pleasant sunshine and drive across France wouldn't it?
[speaker003:] Oh yeah, yeah that would be very nice, [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] Yeah
[speaker003:] just wait, just makes life so much easier doesn't it?
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] Visibility and
[Richard:] it should be reasonably quiet on a Sunday because most, because ninety nine percent of all er contracts goes Saturday to Saturday
[speaker003:] Yes, yeah, why's er, I think we're doing it, it the right way, certainly, you know
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] we're getting there at the right time
[Richard:] yeah... but it can, it, it used to be absolutely horrendous at the Tyne Tees valley, well the, you were there for that weren't you?
[speaker003:] Oh yes
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] absolutely desperate, the number of, the number of hours you spend in a queue
[Richard:] What was it, what was it, eleven hours up, up the valley?
[Jan:] No, it couldn't of been
[speaker003:] Yeah used to be terrible didn't it?
[Richard:] Yeah
[Jan:] twelve o'clock when we got there, half twelve when we got there
[speaker003:] yes it was very, very late
[Jan:] I mean I think we arrived at the bottom about six o'clock
[Richard:] oh
[speaker003:] yeah yeah we were just, we're just sort of moving a car length at a time weren't we?
[Richard:] yeah, but I think now, er that
[Jan:] Didn't we watch two films on the video?
[Richard:] I mean the fact it's going up on up on a Sunday er we avoid all that and we, in actual fact if we go by we don't even come into it till we get to
[speaker003:] aha, aha, yeah
[Richard:] I mean it's quite, it's very pleasant along the, the l the side of Lake as well
[speaker003:] yes, and I, I don't know whether I've been that way, I honestly don't know... right then, so you're all systems go, that's the main thing
[Richard:] Yes yes
[Jan:] Yes we're all, I think we're organized.
[speaker003:] Okay, erm, we'll, we'll find out when we get there that we're not quite organized [LAUGHTER] we've forgotten
[Jan:] No, we've forgotten the skis or something
[speaker003:] something
[Richard:] Er, well put the er the bottle opener in, that's the most important one
[speaker003:] Yes, yes
[Richard:] hmm
[speaker003:] the cork screw
[Richard:] yes
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER] mind there should be one, there should be one in the apartment
[speaker003:] yeah, they all, I always take one and I'm always pleasantly surprised usually by the amount of gear there are in these places
[Richard:] oh what I can make out we've got a bathroom and a bidet and er, er, it's
[speaker003:] that's right the, the bigger apartments don't have, tend to be better equipped in fact don't
[Richard:] yeah ah, I, it doesn't say whether we've got a dishwasher, I hope we have [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] yes, that would be nice
[Jan:] don't, don't think it did
[speaker003:] well
[Richard:] but it's er
[speaker003:] I'm used to it, so
[Richard:] there's fifty square metres which is quite a reasonable size for an apartment
[speaker003:] aha, aha
[Richard:] I mean er, I mean, what, and the last time we went in, in, to tea in actual fact, we were in er a so-called four stroke five bedded apartment which was twenty two square metres
[speaker003:] good Lord, yes
[Richard:] er which comfortable
[speaker003:] differently
[Richard:] it was comfortable for two [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] yes, sure
[Richard:] but this one, fifty square metres is, is twice the size of that [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] yeah, yeah that's good
[Richard:] oh it, it sleeps six, so we should be er, we should have plenty of room
[speaker003:] yeah, good
[Jan:] [cough]
[speaker003:] well if you have any further sort of info or anything else you need, you know getting ready, just give us a buzz tomorrow, tomorrow night
[Richard:] right, er I mean coffee, is bet to be honest instant coffee in France is a lot better than it is here
[speaker003:] yeah Jan was saying wasn't she, how the
[Jan:] yeah
[speaker003:] when you came through I think
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] that it's er better over there, that'll suit us
[Richard:] in fact we'll, we'll probably go and buy, buy some coffee to bring back anyway
[speaker003:] yeah, yeah... smashing
[Richard:] I can't think of anything else
[speaker003:] no I can't either, I've got all the tickets ready that's the [LAUGHTER] main []
[Jan:] that's the main thing yeah
[speaker003:] yeah that's right, I've just got to get me currency tomorrow and then
[Jan:] yeah passports
[Richard:] I've got I've got the currency and you're sort the way we're sorting it out is that we pay a quarter and you pay a half
[speaker003:] yeah that's right
[Richard:] on the apartment
[speaker003:] well I've, I've got me er, hmm me Visa, I'm hoping
[Jan:] yeah
[speaker003:] that'll be the thing
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] well it, you usually can anyway in France can't you?
[Richard:] you normally can, yeah
[speaker003:] Use it, so
[Richard:] well I've got me Eurocheques
[speaker003:] lovely, and we'll sort out all the rest
[Richard:] yeah
[speaker003:] all the rest of the finances as we go and work it out
[Richard:] yeah, I'll just er, I'll make erm, I'll, I'll start with a full tank of petrol from
[speaker003:] yeah, yeah
[Richard:] and, and then if we sort of
[speaker003:] aha
[Richard:] work on the basis of er, we fill up just before we drop you off on the way back
[speaker003:] well that's right, I mean if, if you, if you've already paid for things like Reflex and erm green card and stuff like that, if you want I'll, I'll just put all the petrol on erm me Visa
[Richard:] well we'll see, erm
[speaker003:] that's it, I mean something like that, you know, we'll work something
[Richard:] well what we'll do is we'll, we'll work a book
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] ah
[speaker003:] that's very wise yes
[Richard:] and then er we just er
[Jan:] have a kitty for the food
[Richard:] we just have, and we'll have a kitty for the food
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] I got my pur I've got my kitty purse with me
[speaker003:] ha, ha
[Richard:] so, if I don't, I, what, what I don't
[speaker003:] I thought you were taking your cat with you then when you said a, we'll take a kitty
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] yeah
[Richard:] no the last we did it was er, we just had a, had this, had this purse with the, which we, we stuck a couple of hundred francs in each to start of with
[speaker003:] yes I think that's the best thing
[Richard:] and when, and when that er was extinguished we
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] we put in another hundred francs apiece
[speaker003:] yeah, yeah
[Richard:] and this, we, we just worked our way through it during the week
[speaker003:] yes
[Richard:] er for all the, the baguettes and er
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] whatever
[speaker003:] oh yeah
[Richard:] and
[speaker003:] that's the best thing to do
[Richard:] and er then er, and then I kept a book for, for the petrol
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] er and the road tolls we just jotted it all down
[speaker003:] yeah
[Richard:] so that at the end of the time we just say right so an so, we split it down the middle
[speaker003:] yes, good
[Richard:] cos I think if, it gets, it gets awkward if er... you do it piece
[speaker003:] oh yes, yes, oh yeah you wanna keep everything er
[Richard:] yes
[speaker003:] just so
[Richard:] yes
[speaker003:] that's right okay then
[Richard:] rightio then
[speaker003:] unless I hear from you tomorrow night for any reason, we'll see you at nine forty fiveish, on Saturday
[Jan:] on erm Saturday
[Richard:] rightio
[Jan:] see you then
[Richard:] okay
[Jan:] yeah, bye.
[Richard:] er looks as if the snow's excellent doesn't it?
[speaker003:] yeah it does doesn't it, so Saturday nine forty five, see you then
[Richard:] Rightio
[speaker003:] bye, bye Dick
[Richard:] bye
[speaker003:] Jan [phonecall ends].
[Jan:] Bye [phonecall ends].
[Richard:] bye [phonecall ends]....
[Jan:] Right, what have we got left to do?... Nothing
[Richard:] Not a lot...
[Jan:] have a cup of tea?
[Richard:] mm...
[Jan:] Have a cup of tea?... Put the kettle on then
[Richard:] Right, er I just
[Jan:] erm
[Richard:] bring down the er
[Jan:] skis and the pack bags
[Richard:] skis and the bags
[Jan:] yeah... okay then
[Richard:] er bring down the, the poles... and that's about it
[Jan:] it feels too easy
[Richard:] Pardon?
[Jan:] it feels too easy
[Richard:] Well we're just efficient
[Jan:] hmm
[Richard:] I still can't find that, that, that sun cream
[Jan:] That sun cream, no...
[Richard:] mm... [clears throat]... that's... put the skis on the, put the holders on, could do with trying out those, I don't know if I feel like it tonight, but er... trying out those chains
[Jan:] ...
[Richard:] I couldn't find your little whizzy holder
[Jan:] [LAUGHTER] What d'ya mean whizzy holder?
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER] Your ski pack holder and er, and on er
[Jan:] Because it's attached to it, because it's attached to the
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] suit and you've knocked
[Richard:] oh
[Jan:] just knocked the lights out
[Richard:] oh dear... still drunk that's what it is
[Jan:] yeah
[Richard:] mm...
[Jan:] Where's your whizzy holder anyway?
[Richard:] Oh my whizzy holder's in the, in the, in the ruck [LAUGHTER]
[Jan:] Good, I'm glad you've got it under control
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]... oh me slippers have got to go in
[Jan:] What?
[Richard:] my slippers
[Jan:] Yeah shoes, we haven't sorted out shoes yet have we?
[Richard:] Shoes' ll go in the boot bag, in the ski bags
[Jan:] Right
[Richard:] er
[Jan:] so I can put my trainers in... my trainers, oh I could wear my trainers going out couldn't I?
[Richard:] Oh I'm not wearing my trainers because my feet stink in 'em
[Jan:] Your fee will smell, yes dear, disgusting, what about these knickers?
[Richard:] I think I'll wear those to go in, cos those fit me
[Jan:] Aye, I'll just take them upstairs then
[Richard:] er... the map's there... can't think of anything else
[Jan:] ...