[speaker001:] Well you can do. I'm going to
[Arthur:] How long will you be doing your cake?
[Evelyn:] I'm not making a cake, I'm making marmalade this
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] this afternoon. Still got Christmas cake, so
[Arthur:] I know. But
[Evelyn:] Anyway, what's on?
[Arthur:] How much of that is left?
[Evelyn:] Not much.
[Arthur:] Of the cake?
[Evelyn:] Not much.
[speaker001:] Film.
[Arthur:] Film. Leave the washing up we'll both
[Evelyn:] Alright.
[Arthur:] do it together.
[Evelyn:] You sure? [reading television paper] Film, Seven Cities of God [], that's on now. Don't want that, do you?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] The other one is... Thorn Birds
[Arthur:] Spea, er speak to the thing and loudly or
[Evelyn:] Do you think it's... taking?
[Arthur:] Shall have to see.
[Evelyn:] I is it running? Has the, is the red light on? Ah! Oh! I see. Same as the other one.
[Arthur:] Oh oh!
[Evelyn:] You know what's on tonight?
[Arthur:] Er, anything any good?
[Evelyn:] Well! Grace and Favour, you know th... er Are You Being Served?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] That's on. A new series but called Grace and Favour at eight.
[Arthur:] Is it
[Evelyn:] But
[Arthur:] a series, a series or just one
[Evelyn:] A new one! A new
[Arthur:] new series altogether?
[Evelyn:] Yeah Gra. Yeah, the similar... carrying on
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] from the Grace Brothers.
[Arthur:] That should be... rather nice.
[Evelyn:] But... on the comedy channel on the satellite... it's, the old er... Are You Being Served.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] So you can... decide
[Arthur:] Choose
[Evelyn:] what you're going to see, the new series or... repeat of the
[Arthur:] Oh ah!
[Evelyn:] old. So
[Arthur:] The new series is alright though. The older series was alright but
[Evelyn:] Yeah, well we'll have to see. Anyway... what was all that on the news? I didn't hear it at one o'clock, did you?
[Arthur:] It's some... what? There's a
[Evelyn:] What's the matter?
[Arthur:] big lorry coming up, big yellow lorry coming up the road. Oh it's got sweeping brushes.
[Evelyn:] They're probably putting sand e sand in the roads.
[Arthur:] Clear, I hope he's clearing the salt up.
[Evelyn:] No he's not. I bet he's putting salt in the road.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Oh well. Half inch of frost and you get the salt people out.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Well.
[Arthur:] As soon as it's strikes your, the bottom of your car it's it begins to rust.
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] And ne,e it, and is, if it's going to freeze tonight you can't wash it off.
[Evelyn:] Well we shan't be going out in the car today shall we? Or tomorrow.
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] So
[Arthur:] Do you think we ought to go round Peter and Joan's.
[Evelyn:] No. She likes to be told. Just leave
[Arthur:] About fetching you home.
[Evelyn:] No. I'm gonna take her home. And then you can't have a drink cos you've got to take her haven't
[Arthur:] Oh yeah!
[Evelyn:] you?
[Arthur:] True.
[Evelyn:] Mm. No, wait till the weather's a bit better. And it might be snowing tomorrow.
[Arthur:] Er, is the market o always crowded like that... so you're pushing?
[Evelyn:] Well, it is if you go in
[Arthur:] So as you get.
[Evelyn:] Friday and Saturday. Well it mostly is in the week anyway.
[Arthur:] How about ringing George up?
[Evelyn:] Well... no, if he's suffering from depression you don't want
[Arthur:] Do you think he'll come for lunch?
[Evelyn:] No. Don't wanna ask him this week. Besides he wouldn't come at
[Arthur:] I said I wouldn't give him.
[Evelyn:] sh, such short notice. Well he may have Madge and Tom last week, I don't
[speaker001:] Now can you tell me if this marmalade's set? I can't see very well.
[Arthur:] Bring it er, bring it in er to the fro, lounge. It should be on the table at the back.... Have you got it?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. I don't think it's
[Arthur:] Bring it in to here.
[Evelyn:] I don't think it's qui, is it wrinkling? Just a, ah! Well don't hold my wrist!... This is my bad wrist
[Arthur:] You wicked girl!
[Evelyn:] [whispering] He's alright []. I don't think it's quite ready is it?
[Arthur:] It's, no it's not er... it's not crinkling on the surface. Cos it's not clear.
[Evelyn:] Ah, a few more minutes. Put these slippers on. Have you seen, leave it on.... Look! I don't think it's, the swe, the swelling's going down at all do you?
[Arthur:] No. And it's, it's... it seems very hot.
[Evelyn:] That's cos I've left the thing off?
[Arthur:] Do you think you ought to go to the doctors again?
[Evelyn:] Don't know. We'll put the bandage back on though. Have you seen my bandage?
[Arthur:] How about ri... er ring, ringing them up?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Ooh here it is! No! They'll say come, they'll want to see it.
[Arthur:] Well show it to them and see.
[Evelyn:] No, no I'm not going all the way down today.
[Arthur:] Are you putting that back on?
[Evelyn:] Mm, that's not quite ready is it?... No. What about the picture?
[Arthur:] What to show Jackie?
[Evelyn:] Well, when she comes home I think
[Arthur:] She is home. Been
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] home a little while.
[Evelyn:] no I mean when Tom's home. Show it them together?
[Arthur:] Well, perhaps I'll them later.
[Evelyn:] Oh, could do. I think it's good!
[Arthur:] Bit of extra
[Evelyn:] Where you going to put it that's the... important thing.
[Arthur:] This, in there.
[Evelyn:] No! I mean, on the wall! You're not putting it on... under there! Whereabouts on the wall?
[Arthur:] This?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] Well I ain't bothered about that yet! We got other things to do haven't we?
[Evelyn:] Well if you wanted it, if you, now you've bought it you want to decide where you're going to put it.
[Arthur:] Well... put it in in five minutes can't I? Are you going to show her or not?
[Evelyn:] Oh I'm going to show her! But I was just wondering where you was gonna put it.
[Arthur:] And I thought it'd be extra
[Evelyn:] Can't over the radiator.
[Arthur:] Well she'll want it in the house and all that!
[Evelyn:] I know. I said... I know she will! I'm talking when, when they've seen it!
[Arthur:] Well, we're not bothered about a yet!
[Evelyn:] Yes I
[Arthur:] Well you er you, I thought you were going to ask her to look at.
[Evelyn:] I will do when Tom's home.
[Arthur:] Then he can come and look any time.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. I expect she'll be making, probably busy making
[Arthur:] I like it very much don't you?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] It's unusual to say the least.
[Evelyn:] I think it's er
[Arthur:] I shall ask how, when it was taken.
[Evelyn:] Last summer. After that building at the back was finished. Must have been!
[Arthur:] Yes, cos it's there.
[Evelyn:] About that July.
[Arthur:] Ah! I I was, I were help him point it at the time. You know the pear tree where you asked me
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] to prune it... it's still over the garage.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. But you didn't prune it until about... October did you?
[Arthur:] No. But i,i, I've not i, on this sh... picture... the pear tree is ri,we all over the garage.
[Evelyn:] Over the garage over the back, the other garden.
[Arthur:] So er, it's
[Evelyn:] I think it's July, August... taken.
[Arthur:] It's not been recently has it according to that?
[Evelyn:] Well it couldn't be recently could it... because the flowers are out?
[Arthur:] Well that's another point.
[Evelyn:] You can tell which flowers are in bloom.
[Arthur:] Do you think they will like it? You know, to buy one?
[Evelyn:] What next door?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Probably. Although their lawn looks a bit
[Arthur:] But er
[Evelyn:] threadbare doesn't it?
[Arthur:] Well he did say er, ours i your greens, your grass is greener.
[Evelyn:] Yep. Well... we haven't cut ours since have we?
[Arthur:] Are you going to show it Tom and Madge?
[Evelyn:] Yes. When we get there?
[Arthur:] What take it with us?
[Evelyn:] Yes. Could do.... That reminds
[Arthur:] I don't suppose
[Evelyn:] me
[Arthur:] don't suppose they'd come... and a me, for tea would they?
[Evelyn:] Well we had them last week, I'm not going to ask them. They wouldn't want to come again anyway so soon. Tom doesn't like going out. Like you do.
[Arthur:] Well... home's always the best. I suppose we're at home today.
[Evelyn:] Er, when's that Churchill thing on?
[Arthur:] When's th the Argentina one?
[Evelyn:] That's next week, but no, I know that. Gotta get that again. I've seen one or two... erm... previews of it but... I've never found out when it is.
[Arthur:] Er er the slab... those yellow slabs they show up pretty well don't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] In the red
[Evelyn:] Did you know what was on this morning?
[Arthur:] red.
[Evelyn:] Les Miserables.
[Arthur:] Eh?
[Evelyn:] Charles Laughton was on this morning at nine twenty five.
[Arthur:] Who was?
[Evelyn:] Charles Laughton!
[Arthur:] What? Oh in that er
[Evelyn:] Les Miserables.
[Arthur:] Oh yes! It's where he is a
[Evelyn:] Mhm.
[Arthur:] he's always after a prisoner int he? Escaped prisoner. And he ends up, he ends er, drowning hisself?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Because he'd been pursuing the same man... for years.... What, I used to se, see the book... in the library but I never drew it out until I, recently. It's a good story that.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] I liked it very much. Mind you, Charles Laughton put it... a bit of beef into it didn't he?
[Evelyn:] Mm. No, there's not much on tonight really.
[Arthur:] Nothing worth looking at?
[Evelyn:] Well, there's just that er, Are You Being Served. I suppose you wanna see.
[Arthur:] They're gonna do another series did you read it?
[Evelyn:] Yes, that, that was it! It's go it's got both on at eight tonight.
[Arthur:] Both on are they?
[Evelyn:] I told you that earlier
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] on! The new one and the old one.
[Arthur:] Oh that's strange... idea!
[Evelyn:] Well one's on Sky and one's on B B C.... Any Questions at eight five. So you can have that tomorrow at lunchtime then can't you?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Well... I think I'd better go and look at the jam again. I think it's er... wants a few more minutes so
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] switch that off.
[Arthur:] Go and have another five minutes and
[Evelyn:] Switch it off and leave it.
[speaker001:] Are they both down?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Is it rolling? Er, do you want any whisky in your tea?
[Arthur:] I can have it, yeah.
[Evelyn:] Want some?
[Arthur:] Yeah, just a drop.
[Evelyn:] Is it alright?
[Arthur:] Mhm. Are the pigeons gone?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] Is that blackbirds?
[Evelyn:] Blackbird and a robin. I think that's setting now isn't it Arthur?
[Arthur:] Blackbird and robin been?
[Evelyn:] Yes. They've had some sultanas. That's setting int it
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] it?
[Arthur:] Mm. Yeah, you se, you know I might go er down that shed. Throw it away now if you don't want
[Evelyn:] If I don't want what?
[Arthur:] Well you don't wanna put it on the ship do you?
[Evelyn:] It's not on the ship, it's only on the table.... I've got to jar that in
[Arthur:] Have the robin and blackbird
[Evelyn:] in ten minutes.
[Arthur:] gone off then when they had
[Evelyn:] They had some sultanas.... And a bit of... potato.... Okay?
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] What are you going to do about that conifer? You can't leave those steps and
[Arthur:] Well I've to ask, remove them before they plant
[Evelyn:] Well I shall want, they're closed now int they, on Mondays?
[Arthur:] Well I shall move it before bed time. Er er
[Evelyn:] The wind's gone.
[Arthur:] There's no forecast for
[Evelyn:] I don't know. We 'd better get the new
[Arthur:] Violent storm or anything?
[Evelyn:] We better put the news on at four, just before four.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] But... you see, if I'd have gone in Wilkinsons I could have bought another this morning.
[Arthur:] Well, that's alright it's clean.
[Evelyn:] Ah, I know but if yo, if it's, if we get a gale again we shall
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] want something to tie it up with won't we?
[Arthur:] Oh I know. I can take that out and put it back. It's no problem.... And that old you... kept er... asking about, it's er tying the ro... you remember the rose bush?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Mm
[Arthur:] Well it fell on the slabs... had to tie it right
[Evelyn:] I remember.
[Arthur:] back.
[Evelyn:] I remember now.
[Arthur:] That's a bit lighter for that and if... there's a
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] gone late haven't they?
[Evelyn:] Well...
[Arthur:] There's
[Evelyn:] late... i it draws out doesn't it?
[Arthur:] Yeah. Getting light.
[Evelyn:] A few minutes every day.
[Arthur:] Did the robin have any sultanas?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. They'd all been.
[Arthur:] He's a quick mover int he?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Like a little dart. [sighing] Oh []! You don't know what the forecast is then for tomorrow?
[Evelyn:] No, if you put Sky news on just before four
[Arthur:] You get the
[Evelyn:] You get the weather.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And see about that bomb in ta, in er... you know the Prime Minister's place? I, I just heard the outcome of it.
[Arthur:] Oh, has there been another one today then has there?
[Evelyn:] I was in the kitchen and I just heard something about a bomb... near... the Prime Minister's
[Arthur:] The Prime Minister's establishment.
[Evelyn:] and I said to you what, what was it? And you said I wasn't listening! You didn't know. So
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] put the four o'clock news on and we might.
[Arthur:] Oh! [whispering] It ain't four [].
[Evelyn:] No, until then.
[Arthur:] Er,perha
[Evelyn:] Leave it on now.
[Arthur:] Oh. It is er... And get Madge and Tom if you like, er, when we get, we'll nip over for the week, you know? Instead of taking the eggs.
[Evelyn:] Well I've got to get some jars from them... because I've got another lot of marmalade to make.
[Arthur:] Well let's go down for the jars and then... they can, see
[Evelyn:] They can take that.
[Arthur:] see what they say for ten minutes.
[Evelyn:] Could do. We'll see. It depends on the weather tomorrow, if there's frost or anything.
[Arthur:] True!
[Evelyn:] I'm not going if it's frosty!
[Arthur:] Or salty. Well if they put salt on the road, according to the A A,i
[Evelyn:] Already said that!
[Arthur:] it starts to bu
[Evelyn:] No. Do you want another cup. Give me
[Arthur:] Yes please.
[Evelyn:] your cup. Give me... want any more whisky in?
[Arthur:] I'm starting to...
[Evelyn:] Where, the front or the back?
[Arthur:] The back.
[Evelyn:] Oh dear!
[Arthur:] ... it's all over the damn!
[Evelyn:] Oh I'm going to put Sky on so I can erm... get the news.... Your tea's here!
[Arthur:] Eh?
[Evelyn:] Your tea is here! Well it'll get cold!
[Arthur:] I'm going to drink it!
[Evelyn:] Oh this is set now.
[speaker001:] They nearly went!
[Evelyn:] Well you shouldn't have put them there should you?
[Arthur:] But they're still in their er
[Evelyn:] What what... Got mine yet?
[Arthur:] Must have been there
[Evelyn:] Now... tomorrow... we've got to get a sack of potatoes. We could wait till Monday but that's about all.
[Arthur:] Well wait until Monday when there's salt on the roads.
[Evelyn:] Why?
[Arthur:] Well you know what salt does to underneath the car. The bodywork.
[Evelyn:] Well I know! You're always on about that!
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] I'll have to ring Cath up to come and fetch er... Penny's birthday... card.
[Arthur:] What Sunday or... Saturday?
[Evelyn:] No, she'll come Sunday if she comes at all. Cos if we're not going out tomorrow... we shan't be able to deliver it. And it's her birthday on Sunday. So
[Arthur:] How old is she? Forty?
[Evelyn:] Forty one! I think. Getting on!
[Arthur:] Not very old is she?
[Evelyn:] Well... creeping up isn't it?
[Arthur:] Well when you think... you're seve, what are you?
[Evelyn:] Seventy five I am
[Arthur:] se
[Evelyn:] now!
[Arthur:] Yeah and... I'm eighty two.
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] She must be well down the... birth rates.
[Evelyn:] Ah ah!... Anyway, I ought to ring er... Rhona up and see how Penny is.
[Arthur:] What about Joan? Have you, and er... rung
[Evelyn:] Well! It's about
[Arthur:] not rung
[Evelyn:] time they rang me!
[Arthur:] George? How about Ge, asking George to come round for a meal?
[Evelyn:] He won't come at short notice. I'll perhaps ring him later.
[Arthur:] Not short notice, it's
[Evelyn:] Well if
[Arthur:] Friday night!
[Evelyn:] if Catherine says he's got clinical depression we
[Arthur:] Aha.
[Evelyn:] don't want that here!
[Arthur:] Well I could
[Evelyn:] Yo
[Arthur:] lighten depression.
[Evelyn:] Yes er, I know! That's what I mean! You'll make him worse! Or he'll make you worse! So
[Arthur:] Scintillate, scintillate little star... how I wonder what you are? Up above th the world star
[Evelyn:] What's all that in aid of? Like a tea tray in the sky
[Arthur:] In the sky.
[Evelyn:] my dad used to say.
[Arthur:] It was a no... a version of it.
[Evelyn:] Was it?... Well are you going to... look at the telly
[Arthur:] Any Questions for me.
[Evelyn:] have any questions? Oh well I'll look at the telly then.
[Arthur:] Is th, is there anything on?
[Evelyn:] Yes. You know there is! That Grace
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] and Favour! See what it's like. Probably be a bit daft, but still
[Arthur:] Is that th se, er the
[Evelyn:] Grace Brothers!
[Arthur:] Grace Brothers?
[Evelyn:] Mm, only it's i... in a
[Arthur:] New version like?
[Evelyn:] Ye, well it's not in the shop, I think it's... big country house they've turned into a hotel or something. Pretty good write up.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] So... looks like a day in tomorrow. You'll be able to do my kitchen... door. My, that cupboard door. Or have you got to go in the garage and do that?
[Arthur:] I've got to. Different, see to the do,swi sliding door in the garage with a vice to open it. It's gonna be bitterly cold!
[Evelyn:] Well you can't go in there if it's too cold. Catch the flu.... No! Er, I'll think I'll let Joan ring me shall I? I always have to ring her! Why should I?... Ring her up.
[Arthur:] Well Peter sometimes ring.
[Evelyn:] No he doesn't.... He speaks, when Joan rings, or Colin.... But... Anyway, have you seen Les today?
[Arthur:] No, I bet
[Evelyn:] Edie's husband. Don't think I've ever seen
[Arthur:] Well he came by didn't he?
[Evelyn:] Today? I've not seen him.
[Arthur:] Well didn't you wave to him through the window?
[Evelyn:] No, not today.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] That was... yesterday after the snow had stopped, he was doing his shopping and... in the afternoon. And he... and we didn't really... I only just saw him fleetingly.... So
[Arthur:] Well ho, how old would he be?
[Evelyn:] He's a year younger than me.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And she's not as old as me either. Yet I could I give her quite a few couldn't
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I? By the looks... and actions.
[Arthur:] How old is Madge se, eighty?
[Evelyn:] Eighty one Madge is.
[Arthur:] Getting ba, on the re... old age syndrome.
[Evelyn:] Well, we have been for some time.... And er... should we leave the heat on all night?
[Arthur:] I could do I suppose.
[Evelyn:] If it's going to be cold. Mm? We don't want any freeze ups do we? Or should we leave it on... pretty late, turn it off later?... You can do as you want.
[Arthur:] Wouldn't hurt to leave it on will it?
[Evelyn:] No. You might get a hot in the night. Well, you do and yet... we want heat in the, in the pipes. We'll see.... Nothing on telly till eight. If you wanna hear Any Questions at eight fifty five.
[Arthur:] You can always have certain procedures. I suppose I haven't got to keep within in that parameter.
[Evelyn:] What do you mean?... It's about time you you... switched... the heating and learnt how to do it. And bothered yourself with it, you know how to do it but you don't... can't be bothered to do it.
[Arthur:] Ha! It's not that. I don't like mundane jobs.
[Evelyn:] Mm, that's not
[Arthur:] It's women's work.
[Evelyn:] No it isn't.... Do you want any more cake?
[Arthur:] No thank you.
[Evelyn:] Well don't drink that too quickly! That
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] was a bi big one.
[Arthur:] It's cold.
[Evelyn:] Is it? Oh.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I thought it had gone.... Will you want any coffee later?
[Arthur:] No. There's no rush.
[Evelyn:] Suppose I better put some on, I've used it all up.
[Arthur:] Finish with engines.
[Evelyn:] Oh I don't think Dutch coffee was
[Arthur:] Oh right, yeah.
[Evelyn:] was good as that other I used to get, and yet it was a lot more expensive! And I will, I can't remember what it was but... I don't think I'll get it again.
[Arthur:] [singing] They'll find me at Nagines, where all the girls are dreams! []
[Evelyn:] What's made you to think of that?
[Arthur:] The Merry Widow.... Just like to do one more show before I die.
[Evelyn:] Oh! Shut up!
[Arthur:] Pity it all fell through innit?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] All over the... is anybody doing it?
[Evelyn:] Well there is one or twos, but
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] nothing like the number we had
[Arthur:] Is Lily doing in it?
[Evelyn:] No, she di, hadn't done it for years! She's got... arthritis back.
[Arthur:] I didn't know. Ooh! Mary took over.
[Evelyn:] Well Mary took over.... I shouldn't mind going to see the King and I, but you don't like that do you?
[Arthur:] No I ge, I got to see it
[Evelyn:] I know we've seen about six times
[Arthur:] got tired of it.
[Evelyn:] on the stage but
[Arthur:] And er
[Evelyn:] it's nice!
[Arthur:] Yul Bryner did it well but his
[Evelyn:] No! I mean the amateurs that is, well not the amateurs but a professional
[Arthur:] Oh I see.
[Evelyn:] company doing it at the Haymarket!
[Arthur:] I always think there's a little... shade of big headedness with Yul Bryner!
[Evelyn:] Well... there is with you sometimes! Lots of times!
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]... Lots of big headedness!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Yes []!
[Arthur:] At least I practise what I preach.
[Evelyn:] Sometimes.... How many more of those records have you got to tape?
[Arthur:] Mm. A fair number, but we're getting through them.
[Evelyn:] Have you sorted out which you've done and which you haven't?
[Arthur:] Oh I know. Yeah I've wrote it all, booked in.
[Evelyn:] Aha. Looks quite tidy now. You're getting all methodical in at last.... Which is blooming what I said
[Arthur:] Well I was thinking
[Evelyn:] said in the first place!
[Arthur:] I was thinking it might, seriously, and we used to say... hands up all those who haven't seen the sea?
[Evelyn:] Oh don't go back i
[Arthur:] Forest of hands, bar two. And er... well I er... I was one of the two. The lad next to me he'd been three times! His hand went up just the same. Life doesn't change much does it?
[Evelyn:] Well!
[Arthur:] You get the twisters don't you?
[Evelyn:] That's not twisting, that!
[Arthur:] And probably, mother said about the linen and a suitcase... not to, not to put a hand up. And yet, the one who'd been, he said I've been twice hi his dad... se, er... rides stallions fo... on those two wheel tongas to the, take the coal to co, to. And er, so I mean... he was pretty well, he kept about six shire horses, those big
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] big plates of meat horses, and er... there you are, that's how it goes I suppose.
[Evelyn:] Your getting as bad as my Aunt Ada.
[Arthur:] What? Being out of breath?
[Evelyn:] Keep telling the same old tales!
[Arthur:] Is she the one with a teapot in suit rack?
[Evelyn:] No. No.
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] She's not.
[Arthur:] I could see the foreman now!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] He come across with his un one of the managers and he says... what's the idea? He says... of where you get er, you've got a so, cup, a saucer with your cup of tea, he says we never get one! I said well it's my wife's er... [LAUGHTER] aunty []. I, you know, she got... quite annoyed.
[Evelyn:] No! He was only pulling your leg.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] He can take a joke.
[Arthur:] at the same place... er we were putting machinery in after the war, you know
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] and getting them up from the cellars. Said they had to... two
[Evelyn:] Oh yes!
[Arthur:] factories into one.
[Evelyn:] I know. They had to concentrate.
[Arthur:] Well they had to get their own... machines out an... there's one old boy had a stitcher, a be he looked ninety, he probably wasn't, and er... he was chu, it was just after lunch and he was chewing... apple... and old Jo, I was working with so you know, Jim someone's... I said look at the silly old B, I said! He's really enjoying that apple, I says... er, and it's a [LAUGHTER] waste of time []... er, eating anything! So they look at me! Oh Jim we got a big... four foot o, you know, opening in the floor, lowering the machines... and bringing them up. [LAUGHTER] He nearly fell down for looking []! But he were really going at it you know.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] But er... that tickled Jimmy that did.... But still, if you can't joke you can't do anything can you?
[Evelyn:] I know.
[Arthur:] See... children with skateboards they amaze me!
[Evelyn:] Mm, I know.
[Arthur:] Anyway, I bet they cost seventy pound don't they?
[Evelyn:] No! They don't cost that much. I think they're about twenty pounds. Now, what have you done now?
[Arthur:] Straight down these trousers! Saw it... it's going in.... Do children still go errands... er for old ladies?
[Evelyn:] Mm, I think so. I don't see any round here. Well
[Arthur:] I used to be, and I was
[Evelyn:] some of them.
[Arthur:] willi, willing and a a kindly nature but... we... if it's in the middle of a game... you know, and er, you know how you are when you're playing a game... well they'd fetch me away to run... for some cheese for an old lady. And I, I ran there and ran back to continue my... game, at play like... and I heard a,mo, her say to mother... well I like your lad to go... says... th look at this cheese it's never been unwrapped... he said those other lads he says... it's always looks as if it's been unwrapped and
[Evelyn:] Mhm.
[Arthur:] a bit broken off!
[Evelyn:] Mm! Yeah. I suppose lads will always be
[Arthur:] Well!
[Evelyn:] I suppose you were doing it
[Arthur:] You did in those days. Some of them never saw cheese did they?
[Evelyn:] Well no
[Arthur:] In the first
[Evelyn:] ever so cheap that!
[Arthur:] first war. Not in
[Evelyn:] Not in
[Arthur:] the first war.
[Evelyn:] Cheese always was
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] cheap!
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Right up to Second World
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] War! It was slashed then. Course i e, it's very expensive now but it... it only used to be about one and six a pound right up to the end of the war and it's now two pounds a pound and
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] more!
[Arthur:] And the milkman... he used to sell it out of a
[Evelyn:] Yeah I know, you bought it with a... jug of water
[Arthur:] Water.
[Evelyn:] and a big cap.
[Arthur:] He said er ooh... go go and see if we can get a jug of water, he says er... wash my cans in.
[Evelyn:] Mm! Really?
[Arthur:] It's anybody's guess whether it was the cans or the milk he washed out. But still, that's life!
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] It doesn't change much.... I used to run, pick ladies smocks up down the tailors. Course, it wasn't like it is now. It was all tailors.
[Evelyn:] Oh no!
[Arthur:] And er... you don't see lady's smocks today do
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] you?
[Evelyn:] And all the?
[Arthur:] A pink, not a pinky but, pale pinky violet... about four petals.
[Evelyn:] I have an idea.
[Arthur:] Paley... pale sort of er
[Evelyn:] I thought we saw some in Swidlan Woods once.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] Not sure.
[Arthur:] Cowslips, they used to be very
[Evelyn:] Aye I know! Used to make cowslip wine!
[Arthur:] pretty. Mrs used to make cowslip wine.
[Evelyn:] There used be a field out at er
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] by Grave Hall... went down and took them. There used to be loads down there!
[Arthur:] When I was cycling... lovely summer afternoon, well... er four i, about four o'clock... and er there was three farmers round a big sign, in in there... and tha that's where I went up cycled. Didn't get u, dismount I just sat on the saddle like with my foot on the floor... wandering what they was up to. And they were, you know the stallion... they was helping him put it.
[Evelyn:] I know.
[Arthur:] That tickled me to death! When I told our fellers... when I got back to the depot... wouldn't believe me! Yeah, they go got it and swung it up like that, and I'm sure to the stallion couldn't find where it [LAUGHTER] was []! I thought well, what a carry on! Mind you, if they got big hooves like plates of meat... you know, great big
[Evelyn:] Oh yes.
[Arthur:] you know it may be heavy to
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] to lift up onto a mares back.
[Evelyn:] Oh shut up!
[Arthur:] What? I shouldn't last long. It's happened more than that. Probably still does. And, the same road Tobozier the, you know the ditches for
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] running the water off, they didn't have banks. And er... farmers used to throw his cabbage plants in the bottom of the ditch... and leave them there till he was ready to
[Evelyn:] Plant them.
[Arthur:] Plant them.
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] Now we, we... come out with plants and... push them into the ground straight away don't we? Still... each to his own.
[Evelyn:] The bulbs are shooting up now have you noticed?
[Arthur:] Mm. Yeah!
[Evelyn:] I've not been up the garden at the back but those on the front are.
[Arthur:] Poor old Charlie! I told you about him ever so
[Evelyn:] I re I reckon that er
[Arthur:] he
[Evelyn:] I reckon that was er... some relation to the, he used to live opposite us. Er, because her name was
[Arthur:] Don't know.
[Evelyn:] and... and her, some people next door... were like... barge people.
[Arthur:] Mm. Mm.
[Evelyn:] So I reckon this
[Arthur:] Ye yeah.
[Evelyn:] was
[Arthur:] Probably was.
[Evelyn:] the same. And there was some mystery about her... because the kids' names... unless my mother always called her by her, by her name before she was married, but she always called her, and yet... the boys was.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Course, as a kid you don't... think of that, but... there was never was a father [LAUGHTER] there or something so []... not that I could ever remember so... that, that was the fire crackling.
[Arthur:] Yeah, she er... we went to the river shore, you know the bridge near o on our part of the road... and he were... behind the trees and er... I was wo wo, it were one of his sons who were with us, you know, Tommy and... he was shouting
[Evelyn:] Ah! I reckoned I've heard my mam say Tommy.
[Arthur:] Go back! Go back! And... cos he didn't want any... cos he overstayed his
[Evelyn:] Illegal worker.
[Arthur:] he, he were due to go back in the army and he overstayed
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] his leave for three days. They found him eventually.... what it was, Foundry Lane though, it was a pudding, what we used to call pudding bag street, there was big circle round the bottom... and R D Smith and Sons manufacturers
[Evelyn:] Oh I remember that.
[Arthur:] and er... as I came to visit mother... and she we th went to know and la, called landaus
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] small wheel, you know, with a white horse... he came, you know on... er granite cobbles... horses hooves, er he went to the bottom along this circle to turn round... as he came back every door were open and we and er heads out, they thought it was a fu, you know, horse
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] horse and... landau... a funeral... and they're all watching! Mother loved it! We went off... and we got to a steep hill, we all had to get out
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] And walk []!
[Arthur:] three lads and two ladies, and we had,we the three lads, Bill, George and me... we pushed at the back, and the two ladies mother and Vi just walked. And er... it's funny that though, how they all come out to look. But still... they used to go and fetch... meat, there used to be horse slaughterers near
[Evelyn:] Ooh! I don't want to hear all about that again!
[Arthur:] Abbey Park.
[Evelyn:] No, we don't want to hear
[Arthur:] And er
[Evelyn:] all about that again! As I say, your getting just li like
[Arthur:] Who is?
[Evelyn:] aunt Ada!
[Arthur:] That's cos... this horse was lovely!
[Evelyn:] No!... Must be getting near the end of the tape
[Arthur:] Surely you
[Evelyn:] mustn't it dear?
[Arthur:] you lived a young life didn't you? What did you do, just skip... and play hopscotch and snobs?
[Evelyn:] No! Girls don't say anything
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Well there, so... No. We used to read and... and
[Arthur:] Piece... piece... piece of coal as long as that, you see that fire?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Piece of coal as long as that, a foot wide... and foot, like a foot square... we pulled off a
[Evelyn:] And that's three feet that's the length of it.
[Arthur:] and taking the coal to the... from the wharf to the er... gas works
[Evelyn:] Gas works.
[Arthur:] for coating... and they've jumped on the wagon. There's like two pieces sticking out at the back... you could ge get your foot on it... and pull a a... this hundred weight er piece of coal off ran up with it!
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] And then when we came out of school... Dean sent a firelight at people. We, I used, erm the school were next to that... so I, it was my job to go and, on you know the scrap
[Evelyn:] Light the fire.
[Arthur:] heap. Well you know when they made fire lighters?
[Evelyn:] Mhm.
[Arthur:] Those that didn't make it, crumbled
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] up they threw out onto a dust heap... and I used to go and sort out all these bits and er
[Evelyn:] Make the fire.
[Arthur:] ma ma, to give them to George and he made the fire. And er... they were the sort of things you had to do. And in, you know Woodboy Street Sunday night... in the summer when it was a heat wave... they'd got little bow windows then in Woodboy.
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] two foot from the cobbles, you know, like
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] with a little sill
[Evelyn:] And I seem to remember one house
[Arthur:] and er
[Evelyn:] see them when I was little.
[Arthur:] Yes, well it's Sunday night and they're always fighting and that... and he, he came out... four rows of the bow wi, they were twelve inches square... he kicked three of them in! He said I I'll show you who's boss of this house! And, that was his idea of showing who was boss by kicking the windows in!
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Funny that was. Then another Sunday there were two ladies... one had got a bread knife... and she cu, tried to cut her hair off. And ne o, nearly scalped her! Mm. Oh life was rough there! In pla, in Woodboy Street the police used to walk in twos!
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] There was a little police station there.
[Evelyn:] Yeah I seem, I
[Arthur:] You know Rushmore Square?
[Evelyn:] seem to remember that. Yeah.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] That's all altered hasn't it?
[Arthur:] Oh, not much. Ye, Mark's Church still there and
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] built of slate.
[Evelyn:] They're going to do... something
[Arthur:] So
[Evelyn:] with it I read
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] the other day.
[Arthur:] Well the Indians have go, ain't they, they're
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] the church aren't they?
[Evelyn:] Not the Indians, no. I forget what they were going to do there.... He's going to I think. My feet are cold.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Are yours cold?
[Arthur:] No. Very warm.
[Evelyn:] Oh! Can you drink all that? That one? I'll go and get my coffee.
[Arthur:] I got on well with the teachers there before I went to Bridge Road. The... lad I played with, he... you know these steel... fash, er... what they put in ladies shoes now... strip of steel... in the ar, see the archway?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] And he'd got a strip of steel about four inches... the half inch... and he stuck at the back of his,i it was a... long seat that were a... four of us sat on with iron legs... and they stuck it in the wood and... you'd flip it and it i, you know how it would sto
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] shur shur shur shur shur shur shur,and this went on for a week an... little teacher, Miss, she called out... stop doing that! And she ke, said yo when th, one day when there was, went out for play time... quarter of an hour... they rang the bell, she asked me to stop and help her with some papers. But I found out afterwards that was a subterfuge. When they'd all gone out she says... er, what's that noise they keep making? I says, oh it's a... bit of a spring. She said show me. So I walked to the... last bench what seated three pupils, I said, there it is look it's stuck about three inch. She said, well what does it do? So I flipped it, you know and it went
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] shur shur shur shur,so... she never said no more, just hooked it out and er... took it the desk. But she never remonstrated with er... Len his name was, she never i, remonstrated with him. And er... I was out with him, his er... his dad was dead... his elder brother was crippled, and he had a job of... is wo Wilkinson and Phil Kilpacks next door, he did something with the... sweets and jam I think. And, he couldn't walk properly. And er... he er... we used to go there and play with, you know, three or four hours and... keep him company, like. And er... we, one of the few times my dad came to Foundry Lane he... I got a book, I think it were called Tiger Tim... and, on the back they gave... a model that you cut out with scissors... and pu
[Evelyn:] A comi, a comic type of thing?
[Arthur:] Yeah. er, at the back page... about nine inch by six... wi you, were cut-outs and... you cut it out and stuck them together to make a little... paper, well, thick paper model. And er... oh it, it were about seven o'clock and I said I'll go and play with Len... ti till half past, he says well be a, be back by half past eight. And, my dad ever suspicious says er... what are you going to do? I says, well... going to take, er cut these models out and stick them together I says he's, he collects them. Anyway, when I come back about half past eight as I was told to do, you know, there were no disputing it, you couldn't sa, say half past eight and be nine, like they do today, my dad says er... where's the model? I says, oh I've left it there. Ooh! He says, how can you cut a, and make a model and then leave it? I said well he's got a sa, brother that can't walk, he's crippled and... sits there all week and that, does a little job for Wilkinson and Kilpack... and er... quite annoyed! You know, he thought I'd... been telling him a lie. You know, as I hadn't brought the model to show him.
[Evelyn:] Mm mm. Mm.
[Arthur:] But I took no notice! I hadn't got much time for him and he knew it! He used to say... you can't go out and kick your boots up! And I put a toe out of one of them! And i, it were just to show his authority, you know. But mother used to play him down alright. Yo, you'd only got to tell mother and she'd soon be after him! That were the best when she chased him down
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh []!
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []! Fetched him out the hou, er out the factory! Cos he hadn't been paying his maintenance you see. Mother used to take me to the lawyers in... in Newarks. Nothing for you today Mrs. Times I heard that!... Still!... It's all been built on now int it, down that area?
[Evelyn:] Ooh! Yo
[Arthur:] I should think now.
[Evelyn:] You know, oh I'm talking about the Newarks, er... you know... down that street
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] where Downings factory was?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] When I went to pay the poll tax the other week
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] they've pulled a lot of those big old... offices and er, that factory... down! Don't know what they're going to build instead! You know,no, next to Market
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Street, I don't know what the name of the road is. Right around
[Arthur:] Well that's all round there.
[Evelyn:] Bowling Green Street, around there.
[Arthur:] Mark's Church and all
[Evelyn:] Rupert Street.
[Arthur:] that's been
[Evelyn:] No! Well I'm talking about in the town and Rupert Street.
[Arthur:] Yeah I know, but all those areas
[Evelyn:] Oh well I know that!
[Arthur:] were wiped out.
[Evelyn:] Well they were slums weren't they?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Before the war.
[Arthur:] Too right they was!
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] Mm mm... There was a little girl... no
[Evelyn:] Anyway... what time is it? Five and twenty to eight? What time's your Any Questions?
[Arthur:] Dunno. I never looked.
[Evelyn:] Five past or ten past eight it is.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Do you want any more drink?
[Arthur:] No, I'm alright thank you.
[Evelyn:] Any more to eat?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] When shall we ask Jackie and Tom to look at... that photo?
[Arthur:] When you like.
[Evelyn:] They'll perhaps play golf
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] tomorrow.
[Arthur:] Show him in his... er in his front door if you like... if you don't want to bother them.
[Evelyn:] Well if you see him going off to golf
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] tell him when he comes back.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Can... come in and have a drink. All
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] just depends what Jackie's doing. Have a look at it then. I wonder if they can hear that clock on there?
[Arthur:] Which clock?
[Evelyn:] The one in th, the half minute... one.
[Arthur:] Aye! That one.
[Evelyn:] I've just heard it you see, I wondered if it was... being
[Arthur:] Well yo
[Evelyn:] recorded on there.
[Arthur:] Oh I see what you mean. Possibly. Not got to stop the clock for it have I?
[Evelyn:] No, well, there's no need to.... Just ig ignore the er... tapes and just talk
[speaker001:] This morning.
[Evelyn:] I know. So that, what does that mean?
[Arthur:] Well it was er
[Evelyn:] Stay in day.
[Arthur:] Mm?
[Evelyn:] Stay in day?
[Arthur:] That's certainly not in the... erm events. Could do some drawing I suppose. Ready for the next painting.
[Evelyn:] Er
[Arthur:] What are you going to do?
[Evelyn:] I'm, making another lot of marmalade.
[Arthur:] Again? Who's going to eat it all?
[Evelyn:] Me and you! I li, I li, you can only make it this time of year. Erm... flakes
[Arthur:] Here come the pigeons. Er, yeah a few but... not too many.
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Leave it switched on []. Is it still switched on?
[Arthur:] Yeah it's fine.
[Evelyn:] Oh a, oh I just wondered, any po, any post?
[Arthur:] No, there's been, nothing that I could see.
[Evelyn:] Mm? Funny!
[Arthur:] Was you expecting some?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] Who? What the... who's going to be the beneficiary?
[Evelyn:] .
[Arthur:] There's three blackbirds and six pigeons... already.
[Evelyn:] Yes, well you'll have to go easy on that feed. We only got one bag.
[Arthur:] We got, we got... we got two.
[Evelyn:] We only got one bag.
[Arthur:] Is one e, the other one empty?
[Evelyn:] Well you only bought one bag, you couldn't carry any more... without the car.
[Arthur:] Ah but we got some left over from the others.
[Evelyn:] Had you? Oh! I
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] didn't think you had.
[Arthur:] Is it er... tantrum day today?
[Evelyn:] Yes it is, if you don't behave!
[Arthur:] Do I, if
[Evelyn:] Well, keep leaving the doors, opening the doors to feed the birds! Making it cold!
[Arthur:] Most considerate and quiet chap in the district I am!
[Evelyn:] Ooh! Ooh! Ooh hoo! Do you want any mushroom?
[Arthur:] Eh?
[Evelyn:] Do you want any mushroom with your egg and
[Arthur:] No, I'm not... very
[Evelyn:] Just bacon and egg and tomato?
[Arthur:] Not very partial to mushrooms.
[Evelyn:] Bacon, egg and tomato?
[Arthur:] Mm. Yes
[Evelyn:] Mm?
[Arthur:] Yes please. It's fungi int it... your eating?
[Evelyn:] Ooh!
[Arthur:] What you done now?
[Evelyn:] Your milk's boiling.
[Arthur:] Is it burnt?
[Evelyn:] No. It's alright.... Did you have any whisky in your tea?
[Arthur:] I did. Oh is that the one of
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Arthur:] the forks? Two fingers that's all I had.
[Evelyn:] Well that's a lot in a cup int it?... Eat those while I do the bacon.
[Arthur:] That needs to be switched off hasn't it? And that?
[Evelyn:] Have you switched it off? No! Leave it on.
[Arthur:] Are you going out this morning? Evelyn?
[Evelyn:] but I can do if you like.... Have you eat those?
[Arthur:] Aye.
[Evelyn:] The windows upstairs are all steamed up.
[Arthur:] I'll attend to that. I have a certain... procedure... and you have to keep within that parameter.
[Evelyn:] Don't be silly!... You should le, leave the window open at night like I do.
[Arthur:] What, and let all the cold in?
[Evelyn:] Well... I can't breathe.
[Arthur:] And expend all your central heating?
[Evelyn:] I can't breathe whe, when you... don't open the window at night.
[Arthur:] What good's a
[Evelyn:] Sorry the egg's a bit er
[Arthur:] what did?
[Evelyn:] er th, the eggs stuck together.... I... think I'll have to get a new... pan. It's supposed to be non-stick but it's not. It's sticking. It got a bit bent... when I dropped it.... So your egg broke.
[Arthur:] Tomatoes are cold.
[Evelyn:] Surely not!
[Arthur:] Have they been in the fridge?
[Evelyn:] ... it's cold!
[Arthur:] Mm?
[Evelyn:] It's not cold!
[Arthur:] It seems so to me.... It's cold, mine is.
[Evelyn:] Pigeons are down.
[Arthur:] Yeah. About cleared what I've put out.
[Evelyn:] Well you'll have to go easy because you won't get any more... until after the weekend!
[Arthur:] What's?
[Evelyn:] Did you have the news?
[Arthur:] Mm mm. I had a listen it's
[Evelyn:] Nothing new is there?
[Arthur:] Well after that er... still want that man who's supposed to have er, blown up Lockerbie.
[Evelyn:] The two men.
[Arthur:] Mm? Two was it?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] And th they want them e extradited.
[Evelyn:] Well I'm going to make that marmalade and do a bit of cleaning.
[Arthur:] Mm mm.
[Evelyn:] You can do your ship.
[Arthur:] Well er.... Can't do the ship cos it wi, got to go on the bench in the garage. I might do a bit of drawing.
[Evelyn:] Well, start a painting.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Start a painting.... Did you find me that card?... Tha that Scottish card that you were looking for... that painting?
[Arthur:] Oh! Well, say I come to think, I didn't.
[Evelyn:] You were looking for it last night.
[Arthur:] Mm. Perhaps I will now.
[Evelyn:] Especially on a sunny day. Oh yeah!
[Arthur:] But er
[Evelyn:] Well you missed three pigeon there.
[Arthur:] Mm. It's er four actually.... I wonder how long this cold spell
[Evelyn:] Within in the next couple of days at least!... So
[Arthur:] A stop in day then I suppose?
[Evelyn:] Unless you want to walk to The Dove?
[Arthur:] I'm not so bothered.
[Evelyn:] Are you not bothered?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I thought you wanted a beer?
[Arthur:] Well I wouldn't mind one but... just have to walk
[Evelyn:] I haven't got any cans in.
[Arthur:] just have to walk haven't you, in the cold and
[Evelyn:] Well, we'll see.
[Arthur:] I'll go across for the paper, so we got all the
[Evelyn:] We've got the programmes! I bought the
[Arthur:] Oh you bought one did you?
[Evelyn:] You know I did! I couldn't get this weeks'
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] because it was Tuesday so I had to have next... choose the following weeks' .
[Arthur:] And when does that start?
[Evelyn:] Today!
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] Unless you've thrown it away... like you do other things!... I put it in the bookcase in
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] in there.... On top of the books... so that it didn't... so unless you've moved it?
[Arthur:] What are we having for lunch... for Sunday lunch?
[Evelyn:] Pork chops today.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] If I'm busy we'll have it... later.... Chicken tomorrow.
[Arthur:] Don't you get tired of chicken?
[Evelyn:] No! We've not had any since Christmas!
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And we had... beef last week which wasn't very good.
[Arthur:] Mm. What did you attribute that to?
[Evelyn:] Change your butcher!
[Arthur:] He might object.
[Evelyn:] Who might?
[Arthur:] The butcher.
[Evelyn:] He didn't even know did he?
[Arthur:] He would if you was having to pay... on your usual
[Evelyn:] ... He knows I have chicken some weeks so... Mop all that up. Eat some bread.
[Arthur:] The bread's stodge!
[Evelyn:] Not, not wholemeal bread's not. Got to eat it.... Have you seen my honeycomb? Oh aye! Lovely!... Haven't opened the curtains!
[Arthur:] I know. That er... new car... next door it er
[Evelyn:] Not brand new!
[Arthur:] it, well er
[Evelyn:] It's a Ford.
[Arthur:] different then. It seems longer than the one he had.
[Evelyn:] Don't think so. I didn't think it was as big.
[Arthur:] Mm. Looks so to me.... They seem to use them a lot, buses, don't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] That's one thing, this weather'll keep the skateboarders... at bay wouldn't it?
[Evelyn:] I'm not so sure if it's sunny.
[Arthur:] How parents can spend all that money... for them to run down on the chest... paddling with their hands on the dirty pavement! And then they have to carry them all the way back up the hill! Seems pointless to me!... I were making models when I were their age.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] I don't suppose they wash when they go in do they?
[Evelyn:] Course they do!
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] More than when you were a kid I expect!
[Arthur:] Teachers used to look at our hands. You have to turn them, see and look
[Evelyn:] I know.
[Arthur:] says turn the palm of your hands
[Evelyn:] Yes! I know!
[Arthur:] and inspects it if you've washed them.
[Evelyn:] I mean mo most kids have two showers a day these days!
[Arthur:] Well th, we used to fool them though we had, we had... celluloid collars we used to spit on and then rub your sleeve to... and er... you know your boots, you had black boots?
[Evelyn:] Oh yeah! And rub on the back of your sock!
[Arthur:] We used to,ru [LAUGHTER] on the back of your, back of your socks []!... I wonder if they do that now?
[Evelyn:] Course they don't, because they have trainers and they're always mucky!... I think they're horrible they are!
[Arthur:] Well they look mucky in the shops! And that's
[Evelyn:] Well no they don't, not originally.
[Arthur:] Well they don't look like there's, the boots
[Evelyn:] Well they're damn clean! Now, nip all that up and eat it.
[Arthur:] They don't look like the boot and shoes we used to swe, wear.
[Evelyn:] I know that!... Eat all that up. All that
[Arthur:] It's in
[Evelyn:] bread. And don't save it for the birds.
[Arthur:] It's indelicate to, indelicate to mop your plate with a piece of bread, you know that!
[Evelyn:] It's not. French do it all the time!
[Arthur:] Well we're not French.
[Evelyn:] Ah! You want to eat more bread you do!
[Arthur:] What's it supposed to do for you?
[Evelyn:] Well... fibre. Keep you in good health.
[Arthur:] Your cooking does that.
[Evelyn:] Mm! Flatterer!
[Arthur:] Was your father a good eater?
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] For breakfast?
[Evelyn:] I don't think he e, he eat much breakfast. He used to cook ours. But, I don't ever remember seeing him sit down to have any.
[Arthur:] Yes. You used to see my... my father's eyes sparkle when he had his first pint of the day!
[Evelyn:] Ha!
[Arthur:] Mm?
[Evelyn:] What? Er, another cup of tea?
[Arthur:] Yes please.
[speaker001:] Eat your marmalade. Ah,yo you've got to wait for your cup of tea erm, they've sort of gone a bit cold.
[Arthur:] Do you want marmalade?... Do you want
[Evelyn:] Want any whisky in your tea?
[Arthur:] Yes please. Do you want marmalade?
[Evelyn:] Yes I do, a little bit. Just on this little bit of bread. You want some whisky in did
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] you say? Oh you, I'd like butter on mine! We as well as the marmalade!
[Arthur:] Gives you cholesterol
[Evelyn:] No it doesn't! Cholesterol is the word!
[Arthur:] Trouble is you keep, I ta, wash your hands when you've had marmalade.
[Evelyn:] Well... so what!
[Arthur:] It's sticks
[Evelyn:] Sticky to, sticky hands up.... I had a... be better night last night than I did the night before.
[Arthur:] I never woke once. I had a... never heard a sound.
[Evelyn:] I did about two... and then... I went off again and erm
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] later than usual wasn't it?
[Arthur:] How do you know?... We do you want the windows doing th, today?... Where did you put the programmes?
[Evelyn:] In the bookcase, I told you!... On top of the books!
[Arthur:] Well it's the same picture as last week's.
[Evelyn:] It isn't!
[Arthur:] This front is basically the same... oh, as we had er
[Evelyn:] It's not! Yes! But I
[Arthur:] same one
[Evelyn:] bought it on Tuesday!
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] Eat your toast!
[Arthur:] You sa
[Evelyn:] You have a look, it's... the date, look at the date!
[Arthur:] Hasn't... You told me to... anyway... it's Saturday... Saturday.
[Evelyn:] All day!... Now what's on? Anything any good?
[Arthur:] Er
[Evelyn:] Where's your glasses?
[Arthur:] Good question!
[Evelyn:] On there.
[Arthur:] Good question!
[Evelyn:] Well you want to save your eyes.
[Arthur:] No, there isn't any. Er
[Evelyn:] Well they were there.
[Arthur:] Mm mm.
[Evelyn:] Mm.... Here they are.
[Arthur:] Henry the Fifth at two forty.
[Evelyn:] Here are. Yes.
[Arthur:] That should be good.
[Evelyn:] Ah! Who's in it though? Ooh! The Lawrence Olivier
[Arthur:] Lawrence Oliviers sh
[Evelyn:] one, that's a good one
[Arthur:] [reading television paper] Patria, patriarchal adaptation of Shakespeare's play [].
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] And Kenneth
[Evelyn:] And that's supposed to be better than Kenneth Brannigan's
[Arthur:] Kenneth Branagh.
[Evelyn:] Brannigan! It's su it's supposed to be better than his. Which he did last year.
[Arthur:] [reading] Uplifting celebration of war time idealism []. Four sta, four ratings.
[Evelyn:] What's that?
[Arthur:] Er,e Henry the Fifth.
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] Doris Day. By the Light of the Silvery Moon.
[Evelyn:] Oh that's a
[Arthur:] That's on
[Evelyn:] light musical.
[Arthur:] five past three till five.
[Evelyn:] We've seen that before. Not bad! But, just depends. What time is Henry the Eighth, the Fifth?
[Arthur:] That's er, two forty... to, to five minutes to five.
[Evelyn:] Ooh a bit after that. Finish about two then, I should think. I don't want it too early because we're late with breakfast this morning.... And what's on tonight? In case we're staying home.
[Arthur:] Twelve o'clock, that's er
[Evelyn:] No. Well look at the proper programmes, that's just giving the films!
[Arthur:] For the week, yeah.
[Evelyn:] Look, look at the proper
[Arthur:] Tuesday.
[Evelyn:] programme! Monday! Saturday!
[Arthur:] Saturday.
[Evelyn:] I know but they're the films! You want the proper
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] programmes!
[Arthur:] Well... you could have fooled me! Proper, proper
[Evelyn:] That's it!
[Arthur:] programmes.
[Evelyn:] That's it.
[Arthur:] Yes dear.
[Evelyn:] What's on Sky?
[Arthur:] One moment.
[Evelyn:] One moment.
[Arthur:] Channel Four... back a bit no... One, Two
[Evelyn:] Well it's probably over the page! No bef, after!... Are they stuck together?... Your fingers have
[Arthur:] Eight A M.
[Evelyn:] Well no! Well that's
[Arthur:] The La
[Evelyn:] gone darling!
[Arthur:] Hitchcock's, Lady Vanishes.
[Evelyn:] I've seen that times
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] It's more this afternoon and tonight, I shall
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] be busy this morning.... Anything?
[Arthur:] I'll see what I ca
[Evelyn:] That you like?
[Arthur:] fancy.
[Evelyn:] What about me?
[Arthur:] Oh well, shall I read them all?
[Evelyn:] No! No!
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] Read what's on this afternoon. And I can te, I can tell whether I might like it.
[Arthur:] [reading television paper] Twelve fifteen, Love Happy, Groucho Marks.
[Evelyn:] No, I don't like him.
[Arthur:] Two fifteen, Striker... Malibu Detective.
[Evelyn:] Detective, no I don't want that.
[Arthur:] Burt Reynolds.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Four fifteen, Our Sons... mothers of a gay couple.
[Evelyn:] Ooh! I don't want that!
[Arthur:] Six fifteen, Frankenstein, Boris Karloff [].
[Evelyn:] Don't want that.
[Arthur:] Er... that's.
[Evelyn:] What's on the... other movie channel.
[Arthur:] Sky... satellite.
[Evelyn:] No, Sky One there's nothing it's mostly wrestling Saturday afternoons. What
[Arthur:] Si
[Evelyn:] does ska, the
[Arthur:] six P M,Rob er, Robin of Sherwood.
[Evelyn:] No! No! That's a silly thing! Drink your tea that's on there. Let me look. Mm,no, haven't got
[Arthur:] Oh that's twelve. Do they know?
[Evelyn:] Yes. That's Sunday you're looking at!
[Arthur:] Well... cos there was nothing on Saturday!
[Evelyn:] Oh you were looking in, on Sunday... in advance.
[Arthur:] They're cleaning all the... seed up, the pigeons.
[Evelyn:] Yes, well they better!
[Arthur:] They won't, don't usually do that. It... is biggest come down. As big as a big cockerel ain't they?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. It's big!
[Arthur:] Do you reckon he fathers them all? They wouldn't be all his wives would they?
[Evelyn:] I don't know! I know nothing about pigeons!
[Arthur:] Well you don't
[Evelyn:] Oh, Esther Rantzen's on Saturday now. You know, That's Life. I get a bit fed up with that.
[Arthur:] You might, you might not know about pigeons, you know what comes naturally don't you?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Eat all those.
[Arthur:] If there's eight, er... pigeons with him it's... and he's the only er.
[Evelyn:] There's th that cello... Tortellio. I like him.
[Arthur:] What's that about?
[Evelyn:] Er, he's a famous cellist!
[Arthur:] Oh. Oh that one he
[Evelyn:] He had cello, you know the
[Arthur:] he used to be in the Masterclass... teaching the
[Evelyn:] Well I think he did, sometimes.
[Arthur:] students?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] Mm. I'll have another cup then if it's spare?
[Evelyn:] Mm.... right.
[Arthur:] You're not going out this morning are you?
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] Did you want the windows cleaning?
[Evelyn:] As I say, it looks a nice day if you were wrapped up you could... later on, go a little walk.
[Arthur:] Did you want the windows done? Would they
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] might freeze.
[Evelyn:] No you don't want to... ooh! I'm
[Arthur:] Erm
[Evelyn:] not sure if I put sugar in. See.
[Arthur:] it might freeze under there.
[Evelyn:] See.
[Arthur:] Whoosh!
[Evelyn:] Oh! Do you know what's on the
[Arthur:] Here, there's two biggies now!
[Evelyn:] Well there were three yesterday!
[Arthur:] I think the other one might be, oh yeah, it's the to the.
[Evelyn:] Well Dirk Bogarde's on at nine.
[Arthur:] What's th, what's th that?
[Evelyn:] Well he just talks about his career.
[Arthur:] Oh bi, it's not that er... po Breaking the Code, that's the one
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] I want to see.
[Evelyn:] Oh, that's the one you want to see.... Well what's that, Cicero?
[Arthur:] No, he he... he he... he has to break a code, you know, like
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] he broke the er
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Japanese code, it's... he has
[Evelyn:] Mm mm.
[Arthur:] a... office with a lot of girls.
[Evelyn:] Hi, his film is King and Country, World War One.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] About a deserter at a court marshall. I think we saw that the other week! On Sky.
[Arthur:] Possibly. Possibly.
[Evelyn:] Anyway, it's on till eleven forty, a bit late.
[Arthur:] We've seen most of them.
[Evelyn:] Well it's a bit late. Oh! Cilla's on, Blind Date.
[Arthur:] I'm... getting a little tired of that.
[Evelyn:] Oh it's some, bit of fun sometimes. What's all this? What's that? Ooh that's a... for the stylus int it?
[Arthur:] It's off the er, yeah it's off the old... music box we used to have.
[Evelyn:] Where did you find that?
[Arthur:] Well it's off the old... gramo [gramophone] we used to have.
[Evelyn:] I know, but... I'm just wondering how it's got on there.
[Arthur:] Probably when we were emptying the..., bits and pieces.... Mm.
[Evelyn:] Has the robin been this morning?
[Arthur:] Didn't see them. Saw the two blackbirds and... the thrush. The thrush er... lowered his wings in er... you know, you know
[Evelyn:] Temper.
[Arthur:] how they do when th... they're trying to scare some of them off.
[Evelyn:] Drink your tea then.
[Arthur:] Thrush, they're not fighters but they're, they're, not cowards they'll... you know, have a go.
[Evelyn:] Who, the thrushes? I've never seen them.
[Arthur:] They do, he lowers his wings and crouches. You know, it's the er... attacker.
[Evelyn:] They've eat all that seed you... you're going to run out before we get... another
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] lot.
[Arthur:] At least they'll die happy won't they?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] I don't know []!
[Arthur:] Well... they had er, they had all that this morning, they should go for a little while.
[Evelyn:] What are you going to do about that conifer? Are you going to take that er... clothes line
[Arthur:] Line down
[Evelyn:] and chop them down now.
[Arthur:] Ye, oh yeah, show me where you want the line will you?
[Evelyn:] I shall probably want the line fitted like this on Monday.
[Arthur:] Well it held the conifer didn't it?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Kept it from
[Evelyn:] Well I'll get another one when I'm in... town.
[Arthur:] What, another conifer?
[Evelyn:] No! Another line!
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] So that if it goes again I can get a cheap one then you can use... a cheap one to tie it to the fence.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Expedite the... tying up businesses.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Well I mean... it might... blow when, when I've got washing on the line or
[Arthur:] That's unusual!
[Evelyn:] or still be on it when I, when
[Arthur:] Un
[Evelyn:] I want it. What?
[Arthur:] Unusual, two... pa, pigeons!
[Evelyn:] No, there were three yesterday! Those big ones.
[Arthur:] I mean close together.
[Evelyn:] Why?
[Arthur:] Well don't they usually attack?
[Evelyn:] I don't know.
[Arthur:] At least er... imitation attack.
[Evelyn:] Mm, there's plenty of feathers about the garden.
[Arthur:] Yeah.... I reckon it probably keeps the cats in.
[Evelyn:] What this weather? Do you thi, I don't think it does!
[Arthur:] Well they don't like... stepping across icy grass I should have thought.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Do you want any more tea, is that enough?
[Arthur:] I went and looked in the dustbin to see if he was back in there but....
[Evelyn:] You can't lift it!
[Arthur:] Couldn't shift it, no.
[Evelyn:] Is the... di, is the light still on... on
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] the outside?
[Arthur:] Oh yeah. And your onions are there under the light.
[Evelyn:] Ooh! I don't want them there!
[Arthur:] Why?
[Evelyn:] Well you want to keep them cool.
[Arthur:] Well do, well they're on the floor.
[Evelyn:] Oh! Well put them in one of those cartons.
[Arthur:] What about the potatoes?
[Evelyn:] Well there's not many left.
[Arthur:] Oh well, they'll be alright.
[Evelyn:] That's what I say, we've go, we've got to go... first time out next week
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] ge go to the farm and get a bag.
[Arthur:] Well I'm not going out when the salts on!
[Evelyn:] I know! I know, keep the car
[Arthur:] Well it's not that, I've gotta
[Evelyn:] for posterity!
[Arthur:] I've gotta wash it off haven't I?
[speaker001:] These?
[Arthur:] Yeah. The er... have you seen that er... card I'm going to paint?
[Evelyn:] No I haven't! You found it once and now
[Arthur:] You told me to put it in the safe place.
[Evelyn:] Yes, I did!
[Arthur:] Well it's that safe we can't find it!
[Evelyn:] Well you better have another good look then! Have you looked under the stairs?
[Arthur:] I've looked everywhere! About where it is.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Well where's that []?
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]... That's what we've got to find out!
[Evelyn:] Well, you better start again systematically!
[Arthur:] Well, I've been systematic.
[Evelyn:] No you haven't!
[Arthur:] I've emptied the drawers, I've looked under the
[Evelyn:] You've not looked under the stairs! You've not looked in the bookcase!
[Arthur:] Well that's boot polish, I wouldn't put it
[Evelyn:] It's not! You... er there's a lot of painting under there.
[Arthur:] I wouldn't put it there!
[Evelyn:] Yes you would!
[Arthur:] You've been interfering haven't you? That's it!
[Evelyn:] No I haven't me
[Arthur:] Yes you have!
[Evelyn:] Now moved some of these records and, you might find it there if you clear up a bit!
[Arthur:] Your interfering again!
[Evelyn:] I'm not!
[Arthur:] Well these records that want taping.
[Evelyn:] Well, put those in a, different place from those you've already done.... And keep all your things to paint in a... separate
[Arthur:] Well... I better next
[Evelyn:] box or something.
[Arthur:] get my drawing board for starters, I suppose. And er
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] have you got any shopping to
[Evelyn:] couldn't you move some there you
[Arthur:] do?
[Evelyn:] Not really.
[Arthur:] No. Well I'll start then.
[Evelyn:] Well you don't want to go out in the car so stop and do a bit of painting.
[Arthur:] Painting. Okay.
[Evelyn:] What did you want to show me?
[Arthur:] But you know your
[Evelyn:] Leave my... don't destroy that carbon it costs a pound for a
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] few sheets! I know, but I found some... screwed up, in the garage!
[Arthur:] Yeah. Well you...
[Evelyn:] , I thought you'd started a book to put those, all these paper cuttings?
[Arthur:] I did and then I took them out. That's my
[Evelyn:] Why did you take them out?
[Arthur:] reading from the er Victory that.
[Evelyn:] Mm. You'll have to do all that
[Arthur:] Just found that
[Evelyn:] when you get a minute.
[Arthur:] So....
[Evelyn:] Now, look you'll lose this again! Put it safe!
[Arthur:] Have you read that from the Merry Widow?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Yes you have. Oh.
[Evelyn:] Oh golly! [LAUGHTER] And how many years
[Arthur:] Taking the
[Evelyn:] ago is that []?
[Arthur:] taking the.
[Evelyn:] Is this what you found when you were looking for that card?
[Arthur:] For that, yes. There's the er, Constable's Bluebell Wood I painted.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] There's Choiss
[Evelyn:] Who's that?
[Arthur:] Choiss and
[Evelyn:] Oh! Archadians!
[Arthur:] They do, er...
[Evelyn:] I pu, I thought you got these in those
[Arthur:] Yeah I er
[Evelyn:] scrap book?
[Arthur:] Well as I say, I'm going to put it in the big one... once a year. Christ! It's gone. There was a write up in the newspaper... I found, I must have put it back.
[Evelyn:] Well are they some of those snaps?
[Arthur:] Yes, I know but
[Evelyn:] No but keep them all... separate!... I me, well you can never find anything if you got them all over the place!
[Arthur:] Ah this is it!
[Evelyn:] [reading newspaper] Taffy goes back with Petra [].
[Arthur:] Just read it out.
[Evelyn:] No!
[Arthur:] I will.
[Evelyn:] I can't read that little bit.
[Arthur:] [reading] One of the last jobs of Leicester serviceman Taffy... he retires shortly... has involved working on a machine of the type he first handled fifty years ago when he joined the B U. The machine, an original Boston Tacker from the early nineteen hundreds was prepared by Taffy for showing at the exhibition this month at Wellingborough branch. The organizers of the exhibition wanted a Boston Tacker to stand in the foyer to tie in with the theme of the seventy fifth anniversary of the B U... locating... however, locating the complete model has proved something of a headache like the Model T Ford, the Boston Tacker was always very common but is now something of a rarity... and the branch had finally settled for head to be borrowed from C and J Clarke, shoe machi, museum in Street, Somerset. Luckily, Taffy returning from his annual holiday remembered that there was a complete Tacker in the factory of a local manufacturer... still being operated. The directors of the firm kindly gave B U permission to borrow a Tacker for the exhibition and after Le Leicester branch arranged a temporary replacement, Taffy began working, cleaning up the machine to showroom condition. Taffy spent five days cleaning, polishing, painting... he copied the motives which were missing from and old nineteen hundred and eight B U machinery catalogue... which he examined with a watchmaker's glass. Taffy spent the... majority of his time at B U... as a serviceman at Risden and Leicester branches, but had an eighteen month period during world war two assembling jet engines at Powerjets, Wexton His wife... and he lives in Spencefield area of Leicester [].
[Evelyn:] Good! I'd forgotten all about that. Anyway, I couldn't read that with my eyes!
[Arthur:] Oh, about this other.
[Evelyn:] What?
[Arthur:] B U chooses
[Evelyn:] Yes. Oh I know
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] read that, I can read that. I've got to make this marmalade now.
[Arthur:] [reading] B U choose the Merry Widow... because their last show White Horse was so successful the B U Musical Society have decided to take on the ambitious task of tackling the Merry Widow for their next production. Leading the cast will be Mary
[Evelyn:] I can't
[Arthur:] who had played many leading roles for the Leicester Operatic Society. Frank who had a been a member of this society for more than twenty six years. The White Horse was our most sec successful show to date says Mr Percy secretary to the group.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Arthur, I can't und... do the top of the wheelie bin... it's still frozen.
[Arthur:] Well that's alright.
[Evelyn:] I know! But I've got
[Arthur:] Leave it.
[Evelyn:] my other rubbish to
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] put in, it's full! [whispering] [].
[Arthur:] Well I I I did try see if the cat was in it but it was frozen. I shall have to er, thaw it out.
[Evelyn:] What's all this?
[Arthur:] Well... something I've picked up.
[Evelyn:] No, I meant that?
[Arthur:] [reading newspaper] Leicester United Athletic Club are producing but once a year in the si, in the club's theatre, here are two scenes []. What's that? There's the Quaker girl.
[Evelyn:] What year was that?
[Arthur:] The Quaker girl? Don't say it... though.
[Evelyn:] It should say the year!
[Arthur:] Nineteen sixty two.
[Evelyn:] Oh God!
[Arthur:] That's going back a bit innit?
[Evelyn:] Thirty years!
[Arthur:] Mm. I've been busy in my day ain't I?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Yeah well you want to keep them to, in one place not
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] have to go through looking through them every time you want something.
[Arthur:] I do exactly as you say! I'm under
[Evelyn:] Mhm.
[Arthur:] orders! That's it.
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Is it going round []?
[Arthur:] [whispering] That's it [].
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Is it going round []?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] Is it?
[Arthur:] It's stopping. [break in recording]
[Evelyn:] Now my arm's nearly better I still can't get... my wedding ring on. And yet it
[Arthur:] So
[Evelyn:] don't look all that... swollen does it?
[Arthur:] Well do you want me to do it? I've got the
[Evelyn:] No. No. The wedding ring wasn't cut off, it was only the engagement ring and we've sold that. No.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I mean it don't look all that... swollen does it?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] And yet, it won't
[Arthur:] Well your
[Evelyn:] go on.
[Arthur:] knuckles protruding there.
[Evelyn:] Not on the next one.
[Arthur:] That one is... that one's swollen
[Evelyn:] Well I know, but that
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] but it won't go over my knuckle.
[Arthur:] Mind you, you've got it bound yo you're... sort of restricting the blood aren't you?
[Evelyn:] No, not now! So I think you'll have to buy me a new one.
[Arthur:] Oh well that can't er
[Evelyn:] How's that coming? What are these, all the shows?
[Arthur:] That's er
[Evelyn:] All the films from
[Arthur:] That's the erm
[Evelyn:] Archadian.
[Arthur:] Bluebells
[Evelyn:] Bluebell Wood.
[Arthur:] Bluebell Wood.
[Evelyn:] Copy. And that's
[Arthur:] And that's the er
[Evelyn:] Clock tower.
[Arthur:] it's the er...
[Evelyn:] Houses of Parliament.
[Arthur:] Copy of.
[Evelyn:] Is that your hanky or mine?
[Arthur:] Which? They're what
[Evelyn:] One of those.
[Arthur:] what I'm rubbing these down with.
[Evelyn:] Ah! Oh this is mine.... Frost's not going is it?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] Jackie's just gone off now.
[Arthur:] What, shopping do you think?
[Evelyn:] Or to the church.... Have
[Arthur:] We
[Evelyn:] you got the glue or else
[Arthur:] I meant to look out for her, show her the picture.
[Evelyn:] Oh well... perhaps want to catch her when she comes back. Haven't you got a brush?
[Arthur:] Well I had a... a worn out little paint brush and I rolled it on so I kept my hands dry.
[Evelyn:] Well you can fi, we got
[Arthur:] But it's, it was on the Welsh dresser for a little while. You've er... disappeared it... as you usually do!... Will you want this table clearing of all these
[Evelyn:] It was on that kitchen shelf for
[Arthur:] Yeah, a long while
[Evelyn:] weeks!
[Arthur:] yes. Do you want all this table at all?
[Evelyn:] No, not yet, I've not put the... chops in yet.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] What time... shall we have dinner? Are yo, you're not going out are you?
[Arthur:] No, I won't bother.
[Evelyn:] Too cold?
[Arthur:] Well I'm not worried about that but, I'm interested in this... you know.
[Evelyn:] Okay.
[Arthur:] Do you actually want to?
[Evelyn:] No I'm not fussy.
[Arthur:] It's going.
[Evelyn:] Erm... so you going to see Any Questions? As you didn't see it last night, before I get
[Arthur:] Yeah, just wanna watch
[Evelyn:] start getting the dinner?
[Arthur:] What you mean before?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] Well it's on in er half an hour.
[Arthur:] Well it weren't all that, but i if you want to we can try.
[Evelyn:] Well you didn't hear the beginning did you?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] You only saw... heard a bit of it.
[Arthur:] Shall we do that then?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. I want that on first.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] And clear up.
[Arthur:] Right.
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Leave it on. Leave it on []! Erm
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] so clear all them... cuttings
[Arthur:] Clear everything up.
[Evelyn:] cuttings and photographs up.
[Arthur:] Do you want this one?
[Evelyn:] Anyway, you don't want
[Arthur:] Do you want this one in and so
[Evelyn:] Well you could put it in. It's a holiday snap isn't it?
[Arthur:] You know all the, the proprietors they ha, they have horses that pulled the co carriages... they had a race.
[Evelyn:] I mean, it's a holiday snap so put that in.
[Arthur:] They had a race, you know
[Evelyn:] You won't be getting up-to-date
[Arthur:] th
[Evelyn:] anyway.
[Arthur:] all the horses that pulled the coaches.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Well
[Arthur:] Up the hill.
[Evelyn:] Now put everything straight
[Arthur:] Up the hill.
[Evelyn:] so you know where it is.... Have you done with ma my scissors?
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] Right.
[Arthur:] Yes. Nothing else is there? To er
[Evelyn:] Oh no, just clear up.
[Arthur:] clear up? No? Okay.
[Evelyn:] If they're coming in tonight. There's something on the floor down there!
[Arthur:] Yeah. Stop it. That's it.
[Evelyn:] Well... what did you think to Any Questions? Better this week wasn't it?
[Arthur:] Yes. [yawning] There weren't so much bickering were there []?
[Evelyn:] No, but it was still like a political... broadcast in a way
[Arthur:] Broadcast, yeah.
[Evelyn:] from each party. But the any answers was
[Arthur:] Oh is this going?
[Evelyn:] the any answers was er... quite good this week
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I thought. A bit the anti-smoking... bit, on a bit too long.... Don't you think so?
[Arthur:] Yes well, does Tom, your Tom have it?
[Evelyn:] I don't know, I'm not sure. Well he don't smoke much.
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] I in fact now, he doesn't smoke when Madge is in the room.
[Arthur:] But I still think
[Evelyn:] He waits till she's gone to bed.
[Arthur:] Mr Churchill had nine inch long cigars sent him at Christmas... and
[Evelyn:] Really?
[Arthur:] he was smoking like, and he were ninety odd!
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Well they daren't sa, er
[Arthur:] What, how do you com
[Evelyn:] Yes, well.
[Arthur:] compare that with... like with like?
[Evelyn:] Yes, but they used to say cigar smoking's not as bad as... cigarette smoking. Cigars
[Arthur:] Cigars. Oh.
[Evelyn:] Mm. That's what they
[Arthur:] I shall be up
[Evelyn:] that's what they say
[Arthur:] There's there's more in this
[Evelyn:] and Tom only smokes a pipe now, he don't smoke cigarettes.
[Arthur:] Yes, but there's mo more emission from a cigar in a car than... a cigarette.
[Evelyn:] Well he just didn't smoke in cars.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I don't know.
[Arthur:] And do you remember... we went to er... David's er, one Sunday with me to his grave and when we come out of cemetery that public house across the road
[Evelyn:] Ah yeah! That one.
[Arthur:] I took you both in... and, you couldn't see across the room!
[Evelyn:] No. Well they hadn't got the fans on there.
[Arthur:] No. When I spoke about it th the barman rushed across and put the fans
[Evelyn:] Put the fans on, yeah.
[Arthur:] But how do you reckon all those went?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] You cou, it ju literally, you, you could hardly
[Evelyn:] Oh I know!
[Arthur:] see the bar!
[Evelyn:] I know.
[Arthur:] A and it was down steps as you went in. Wasn't above the ground, it were sort a... three feet below the ground.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] So there by hangs a tale.
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] Mind you, you can make fors and agai, er fors and er against for most things can't you?
[Evelyn:] Course you can.
[Arthur:] Over eating... can do it can't it? I mean, look at er, George Bush in America, he's... tried to act like forty, as I've tried to do... a, and you have to pay for it.... I mean, it's one thing... running along the road before breakfast when you're twenty isn't it?
[Evelyn:] Well... no!
[Arthur:] Another thing you'd be e,yo... you have a, you eat more when you're old, or appear to.
[Evelyn:] No you don't.
[Arthur:] I'm eating more than
[Evelyn:] You don't eat... no you don't! You don't eat... nearly as much as you used to.
[Arthur:] Oh! Oh well. Seems a lot when I have to go through
[Evelyn:] How?
[Arthur:] with it.
[Evelyn:] I know, but, but you used to have mid-morning snack
[Arthur:] Ah! But I was nine years in er... digs.
[Evelyn:] Yes, I'm not... disagreeing.
[Arthur:] And you don't get... they don't overfeed you in digs.
[Evelyn:] Well, that was when you were young!
[Arthur:] Cos the whole object of the exercise is to have a lodger... is to pay yo your way.
[Evelyn:] Ah I know. Well you needn't go into all that.
[Arthur:] Well that's
[Evelyn:] I know but you
[Arthur:] It's a known fact, we'd still do
[Evelyn:] you don't, you
[Arthur:] Have you pressed that? You are now recording, yes we're recording.
[Evelyn:] Recording. Oh so that should be alright then
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] shouldn't it?
[Arthur:] Have you mashed the tea?
[Evelyn:] Yes after all that
[Arthur:] I is there anything else you want to... fix?
[Evelyn:] No, after all that trouble changing the I don't know why it went went wrong the first time do you?
[Arthur:] Are the birds coming?
[Evelyn:] Yes. They've ate all the seed... and that bread's still there. I'm making a cup of tea.
[Arthur:] Has the robin been?
[Evelyn:] No [speaking from another room]
[Arthur:] Is there some salt on is there?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.......
[Arthur:] Well he, he often is....
[Evelyn:] ... Did you hear that?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] The robin was at the back door. I've thrown another handful.
[Arthur:] He's getting brave....
[Evelyn:] And the blackbird.... Do you want some whisky in your tea?
[Arthur:] Er... yes
[Evelyn:] You're not going out.
[Arthur:] might as well.... Er is it
[speaker001:] [conversation in another room]
[Evelyn:] Is it still recording?
[Arthur:] Yeah, no I dunno it's re going round....
[Evelyn:] I didn't know whether you'd put the, stopped it....
[Arthur:] Mm mm...
[Evelyn:] No you can leave it, might as well leave it on. Yes. Well it's funny it's working this time int it?...
[Arthur:] Well there's so many things to go wrong int there? You've gotta watch it all.... Is there any, do they want any bread? Or have you thrown it all?
[Evelyn:] I've thrown some out.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] They've got some.... [sighing] Ah after all that trauma [].
[Arthur:] It's going to be a bad frost tonight.
[Evelyn:] I know, shall I... put the gas fire on, as well?
[Arthur:] No, I'm warm enough.
[Evelyn:] I'm not very warm....
[Arthur:] It's getting dark isn't it?
[Evelyn:] I mean you did the same with that as you did with the other didn't you?
[Arthur:] The only thing that was different is that, that... it's not starting on the same
[Evelyn:] Well you get obsessed with that but you're comparing it with yours.
[Arthur:] I was just sitting figuring it out.
[Evelyn:] You're comparing it with our
[Arthur:] You know the ones you put in?
[Evelyn:] thing... with our system.
[Arthur:] Well no y she couldn't put the B side in cos she s you've got to put the A in.
[Evelyn:] Yes. You put the A in.
[Arthur:] The only way you can get it
[Evelyn:] A
[Arthur:] right would be putting the B side in but you've gotta start with A.... It's rather curious that.
[Evelyn:] Well you, you always do on yours when you're recording on our er set don't you?... But you're obsessed with the position of the, the tape.
[Arthur:] Well... I compare like with like don't I?... What's this one in here, the d
[Evelyn:] Leave alone and I'll sort them out.
[Arthur:] Well that's what I'm saying.
[Evelyn:] Well...
[Arthur:] Ah, there, that's it.
[Evelyn:] That's it. Now do you want any cake with that second cup of tea?
[Arthur:] Yes I'll have a slice.
[Evelyn:] There's not
[Arthur:] Have you got much left?
[Evelyn:] Yeah there's half of it left.
[Arthur:] Oh.... Yes but if you're not here you won't will you?
[Evelyn:] Well I shall be in a minute, I've only just got to go in the kitchen and get it. No! It won't matter for a minute or two.
[Arthur:] [singing] On my daughter's wedding day ten thousand pounds I'll give away. On second thoughts I think it best to put it back in the old oak chest []....
[Evelyn:] [shouting] How big []?
[Arthur:] Normal.... [singing] Some folk sing opera, some folk sing jazz, some sing like sawing wood, I sing like that. But when the dickie birds sing in the trees I think we ought to try and sing like these.
[Evelyn:] Well what's all that in aid of?
[Arthur:] Let's all sing like the birds can sing [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] You needn't sing on it. Shut up!
[Arthur:] tweet tweet tweet, tweet tweet []
[Evelyn:] And eat that cake.... Is it as good as mine or better?
[Arthur:] come from there.
[Evelyn:] Yes... Is this as good as mine or... better? This is Madge's cake.
[Arthur:] Ooh I think I like yours the best, this is a bit heavy.
[Evelyn:] It's not heavy!...
[Arthur:] It looks like rain or snow....
[Evelyn:] I think it's too cold to snow.... That mark's gone off my arm, I think that erm... bandage was too tight.
[Arthur:] Well you'd better leave it off then for now.
[Evelyn:] Well I don't know, it's
[Arthur:] Well if it's better for you I should.
[Evelyn:] I don't know that it is.... It gave me a bit of support but
[Arthur:] Not much, I wouldn't have thought much, it's elastic.
[Evelyn:] I know but... I should have thought by now it 'd 've been... better....
[Arthur:] Look in the doctors' book, it might tell you how long... you have to suffer.
[Evelyn:] Well I think as you get older you take longer to heal.... If it's, if there's not any frost we could go to Sainsburys in the morning.
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Evelyn:] And do some shopping.
[Arthur:] A bit of shopping, yeah.... Unless we go on the bus.
[Evelyn:] Hmm don't be silly!... big shopping on the bus.... Besides it doesn't even go in till about... about every hour....
[Arthur:] Do they go on a Sunday still?
[Evelyn:] Not very often.... Well I'm alright for everything till about Tuesday.
[Arthur:] Mm.... How, you know the last time you saw the doctor, how long did he say you'd got before it completely
[Evelyn:] He didn't say....... Mm eat all that cake, you're not giving that to the birds.
[Arthur:] Mm
[Evelyn:] They've not ate, ate half the potatoes and bread that's there now.
[Arthur:] You're not supposed to speak with your mouth full.
[Evelyn:] Hmm. There goes the marzipan, all on the floor.... You cost me a fortune in... soap.... What are you giving that cake to the birds for? I told you not to. What are you giving that to the birds for?...
[Arthur:] Is this your handkerchief on the floor?... Is this your handkerchief on the floor here?
[Evelyn:] I think so, that's mine.
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Evelyn:] Now finish that cake. Any more tea?
[Arthur:] Yeah, please.
[Evelyn:] You've had two.
[Arthur:] Well I'll have three then won't I?...
[Evelyn:] Well you're not having any more whisky in this.... [break in recording]...
[Arthur:] Now it's going now. Everything you say now records on there.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] What I'm saying now is, is on there, all what I'm saying. And do you know, I said to Evelyn... blimey my voice, ain't it different, it sounds a awfully different to y her voice.
[Jackie:] You say that, Audrey w er just bought a camcorder and she said I didn't realize what a, you know, Leicester accent I've got.
[Evelyn:] Who, who's that?
[Jackie:] One of the girls at work.
[Evelyn:] Oh, mm.
[Jackie:] She's got a real Leicester accent, you know?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] Whenever I answer the phone at work, every time I pick it up everybody knows it's me, you know, cos I'm the only Londoner in the office. [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Yeah mm.
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] You feel the cold perhaps Jackie?
[Jackie:] No I'm alright now I'm inside.
[Evelyn:] I've turned it down now.
[Tom:] Oh have you?
[Evelyn:] It does get a bit, it does get a bit hot. Well the heating's hot enough but Arthur feels the cold.
[Tom:] int it?
[Evelyn:] Arthur feels the cold.
[Jackie:] Does he? Cos Tom doesn't, Beverley and I, ooh dear.
[Tom:] Well, well these are comfortable
[Evelyn:] Yeah, well I'm a bit like that, I can't wear a jumper because... I, I... and yet years ago I always used to wear
[Jackie:] Yeah. It certainly feels different now with central heating, that's
[Evelyn:] Mm
[Arthur:] Jackie any of your grandchildren look like that? Mm yeah, that's mother and me.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] He's been doing that album.
[Arthur:] Talk about I reckon that, er Evelyn's niece said... er I said that's how they used to dress boys, I said ho she said why I said probably [LAUGHTER] []
[Tom:] Well er a picture of my dad, do you remember that, my dad, when he was er
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Tom:] very young, he was in a dress.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Yes well that's how
[Tom:] But I said but that was about nineteen... fourteen, nineteen fifteen.
[Evelyn:] Yes well that would be the same as Arthur because he was
[Tom:] I said
[Evelyn:] born nineteen O nine.
[Tom:] I said to him, well wh what are you wear he had a dress and long boots up to there. I said
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Well her daughter's got long boots on that hasn't she?
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] We've er, he's just been getting all the photos stuck down on those cards. He's got years to do. Do you keep one?
[Tom:] Oh yeah? Well we, we've got erm
[Jackie:] We've got a... like a
[Evelyn:] Cellophane?
[Jackie:] Yeah cellophane.
[Tom:] The hol the holiday photographs were gonna be sort of albums in a plastic thing but
[Evelyn:] Mm, mm.
[Tom:] but their own personal ones we've got them either in frames on the, on the sideboard or erm
[Jackie:] Yes but the, the general ones we've got in those flip... you know when I was off, when I had my cartilage removed in my knee, well I was off for six weeks so I got all the photographs and put them in order, the children and us, you know?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Jackie:] It took me weeks to do it didn't it? Sorting them out.
[Evelyn:] Mm well it took Ar it's taking Arthur because he's got... oh sna shut that door Arthur cos Jackie Jackie will be in a draught. Shut it properly Arthur.
[Arthur:] Oh, sorry.
[Evelyn:] Oh Tom's not brought his glasses.
[Arthur:] Do you want the?
[Evelyn:] Yes it's a bit draughty, to the neck I find....
[Jackie:] You're getting, I can't go anywhere without my glasses.
[Evelyn:] I can't.
[Arthur:] I went to the er er fourteens and er... I was there quite a while and er I, I got a booklet in with all different nationalities and er it said Welsh, Taffy, you see, Taffy is Welsh, up here, is a Welsh name. And er I was showing it to chap next to me, tall chap, he took a fatherly interest in showing me how to work you know when foreman was out and er ooh he said there's a bloody Taffy. Well fo a at sixteen I went into the... department that built the machines and er I was, I think it was bell was going for lunchtime and a lad come by says hello Taffy how you going on in here? So that department got it. And then er
[Evelyn:] Everybody did it.
[Arthur:] er I we I think somebody were crossing the weren't they? When we were first married and coming across there... then he says blimey Taffy what you doing up here? And n now everybody's [LAUGHTER] got it []. And that's why I put that in.... What do you make of that Tom?
[Evelyn:] What was that?
[Arthur:] No the bit about the [LAUGHTER] machine [].
[Tom:] Yeah I saw that, yeah, mm, yeah.
[Evelyn:] What's that, your retirement thing?
[Arthur:] No when they
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Arthur:] wanted, they wanted a machine for an exhibition
[Evelyn:] Oh aye that one, yeah.
[Arthur:] and er I spent a week nearly doing it up....
[Evelyn:] We, we've still got piles of photographs haven't we, do you take many?
[Tom:] Ooh well there's quite a few, yeah.
[Jackie:] Not, well, when the children were born, the grandchildren, we started to take a lot more but we don't take quite as many now.
[Evelyn:] No.
[Jackie:] Sometimes on holidays, you know?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Have you booked this year's?
[Jackie:] Yes, we're going to Crete.
[Evelyn:] Oh, that's another Greek island isn't it?
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Where did you go last time? Where did you go? Oh yes. Mm.
[Jackie:] The smaller, one of the smaller islands.
[Evelyn:] You've booked it have you?
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Ooh....
[Arthur:] I'm looking for the... German U boats, when er... that's the beginning of the German U boat
[Evelyn:] U boat pens.
[Arthur:] Evelyn took some of these with her little camera and it weren't very good. That's er the mystery one Ian took.... But I took some better ones.... Shows you what they was up to, aye that's it.
[Evelyn:] Tom won't be interested in that.
[Arthur:] Look at that then Tom.... That's what we was up against.
[Evelyn:] Great big deep submarine pens
[Arthur:] And that's only one that's only one part of it.
[Evelyn:] you know in er near La Rochelle. No wonder we didn't bomb them. They were s
[Tom:] No they're very very heavily fortified aren't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Look....
[Evelyn:] he wouldn't know that.
[Arthur:] they had three or four lots....
[Evelyn:] Would you like a drop more sherry?
[Jackie:] No I'm fine.
[Evelyn:] Ooh you've not drunk that yet.
[Arthur:] Have you seen the satellites erm y you know, our satellite places?...
[Evelyn:] You know, down in Land's End?
[Tom:] Oh those, no, no.
[Evelyn:] Satellite dishes, we went t when we went to Falmouth... they took us on a trip there, it was interesting.
[Arthur:] I think that's a bad
[Tom:] Is it on the downs?
[Arthur:] that's a bad one
[Evelyn:] Er yes, that's it, erm
[Tom:] Is it Goonhilly Downs
[Evelyn:] Yes Goonhilly Down
[Tom:] Ah yeah.
[Arthur:] And that's one, that's one Evelyn took and she got the light in but... that's it look.
[Jackie:] Gosh.
[Evelyn:] And th they're marvellous things....
[Tom:] They're huge aren't they, really?
[Evelyn:] Mm.... And there's not many men working on them, you know, it's all sort of great big massive dials and er
[Jackie:] Ooh.
[Tom:] How many how many of these dishes are there?
[Arthur:] Ooh quite... six, all around a big field.
[Evelyn:] Oh about six. Six of them all all round this great big field.
[Tom:] So w were they all pointing
[Evelyn:] Cornwall.
[Tom:] in different directions or?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Yeah. There you are there they are i in all directions look. That's only a bit of them....
[Evelyn:] I think I took some of those, I've only got a
[Arthur:] And that's, that's the fence
[Evelyn:] well
[Arthur:] round round where
[Evelyn:] when, when Arthur bought his camera I said to the man er... do you think I'll be able to [LAUGHTER] use it []? And he said he said well... so he said I'll give you this one. [LAUGHTER] Lit it's a little Russian one. But it, it's not go not got any gadgets on.
[Arthur:] It's pictures.
[Evelyn:] But they've got a picture of sunlight, cloud and all things like that. But it doesn't take some bad pictures really.
[Jackie:] No
[Tom:] No, no.
[Jackie:] I mean I do I can't
[Arthur:] What do you think to the submarines Tom? They say it was only a part of it, you know, because we only had half an hour, didn't we, there and then
[Evelyn:] No we had about an hour or so.
[Arthur:] Well not too long anyway. I recommend these bus things though, abroad, they were lovely weren't they?
[Evelyn:] Well you fly and
[Tom:] What was that, that with the boats in the... in the river?
[Arthur:] That's Thames isn't it?... Int that the Eiffel Tower?
[Evelyn:] This is, er yeah it's the Eiffel Tower, not the Thames, the Seine. Yes Eiffel Tower.
[Arthur:] Not the Th er S yes, the, yes
[Tom:] I, I saw that and I thought
[Evelyn:] Yeah it's the Eiffel Tower we went on that boat.
[Jackie:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] That's what, oh no we were on a boat and we took that, but it was a similar boat to... what we went on.
[Tom:] Oh yes it is... the, the column of the Eiffel Tower is hidden by those buildings isn't it? It's just
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Tom:] behind it, it looks as though
[Evelyn:] No we took we took er... that was, that's a lovely trip if you go to Paris.
[Jackie:] I'd like to go but Tom's not that interested.
[Evelyn:] Well we only, on the way down
[Jackie:] yes.
[Evelyn:] on the way down, and it was a lovely Sunday morning and er, you know, it was
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] well one of the girls said to me who sort of tagged on to us, she was on her own, [LAUGHTER] er she said er what was the highlight of the holiday and she said that trip down the Seine
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] and the Sunday morning sort of all round Paris and all that.
[Jackie:] doing a trip, you know, a two day trip
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Jackie:] you know trouble is it's, it's either May weekend or it's I can't get the time off
[Evelyn:] Yeah there'd be a lot there then.
[Jackie:] but you know I'd like to go, you know, say a couple of days.
[Arthur:] What about your Yugoslavia?
[Tom:] Well I know I went four years running
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Tom:] It's, it was, it was er er sheer coincidence that Beverley had been to Crete the year before and I said to Jackie we've been to Yugoslavia four years, do you want, do you want a change or do you wanna go back to Yugoslavia, she said well I'll, I'll have a look, I said how about, how about going to the Greek islands for a change
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Tom:] she said alright, and we changed and Yugoslavia came out like that.
[Evelyn:] Yes and you 'd 've had to have cancelled anyway wouldn't you?
[Jackie:] One of our friends that we'd met were there, they'd been there a couple of weeks
[Tom:] And they had to come back.
[Jackie:] a week before the July fortnight and they had to come back.
[Evelyn:] I always wanted to go but when Tito died I said to Arthur ooh it might be a bit risky. And then it got that it blew over didn't it?
[Tom:] Mm.
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And so w
[Jackie:] Well I mean when we to go I mean the tourism and they were just
[Evelyn:] we've never been.
[Jackie:] beginning to bring them up, you know
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Jackie:] give them a better style whatever, yeah.
[Evelyn:] Well someone gave me a lovely address in erm... mm
[Jackie:] But they made us so welcome, the tourists, you know they were fantastic.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Well I know everybody er I've spoken to really thought
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] and it w wasn't too expensive originally was it?
[Jackie:] No it wasn't.
[Tom:] No, no it was cheap i i i it was er when we first went
[Evelyn:] It was getting expensive.
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Tom:] it was a lot cheaper than here and when we last went it wasn't quite as er as cheap there as it was h it, it was always cheaper than here but not quite such good value was it?
[Evelyn:] Mm. No.
[Jackie:] No.
[Tom:] It was still very good... [cough] [sniff]
[Evelyn:] Have you lost your headache from this morning?
[Tom:] Sorry?
[Evelyn:] Jackie er er said you'd got a headache this morning, has it gone?
[Tom:] Oh yeah. all got it at work, it's being in an office.
[Evelyn:] Have they got flu?
[Tom:] When one gets it everybody gets it.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] There's, there's several had the flu and there's three of them next to me with a headache yesterday. They all we
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] were quite pale and I thought here we go [LAUGHTER] it's me next []. And er
[Arthur:] What about Bush then?
[Tom:] He, he passed out didn't he? Collapsed
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Tom:] that was terrible.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] But I just remember
[Arthur:] But mind you he's a bit he's a bit silly, looking back... at myself er er three year, or was it two year back, or one? You know I, I've got a big laurel and it was coming right over what we call the roundabout so I decided to have a go at it. Well... I got some foot long... pruners but the branches were hitting our thing and I were doing this and, you know, and now I've got
[Evelyn:] And that's what's shoulder.
[Arthur:] a frozen shoulder in each, when I go like that in bed, ooh it's terrible. And er I thought I can do what I did at forty, and I did it, but look what I've got now.
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Tom:] Mm.
[Arthur:] And that, getting back to Bush, he's doing the same thing isn't it? He's been jogging, he's doing some footballing
[Tom:] Well it's... the pr the pr the pressure, the pressure on him to be
[Evelyn:] Take that picture from the it's come off that hook.
[Arthur:] Yeah it's handy to put up
[Evelyn:] Well my, I rang my sister, said are
[Tom:] That's a really good picture that.
[Evelyn:] you coming round tomorrow afternoon?
[Arthur:] Tom. It's a bit odd isn't it, to say the least.
[Evelyn:] because it's her er daughter's... birthday and I usually give a present to take round. Ooh she said er I've got a bad cough.
[Tom:] It seems unusual. It, it w it would have been nice to have asked him, you know, how come they took it? What was the reason for it.
[Jackie:] Is that the one that was poorly over Christmas?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Tom:] Because it's not very high up.
[Evelyn:] No that was young sister.
[Arthur:] No it can't be can it? No, no.
[Tom:] It's not very high up at all. Unless he's got a er
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Tom:] er er
[Arthur:] Well I was out there watering at time scares was on and I had this letter and... planes did come over and I laid me ho hosepipe [LAUGHTER] down, I mean you know [] so he wouldn't be able
[Tom:] Well planes are always coming over cos there's an airport just over there, that's right, airport.
[Evelyn:] It's the aerodrome yeah.
[Arthur:] Yes but why did he say why's my grass greener than everybody else's?
[Evelyn:] Yeah well that was just a comment, silly.
[Arthur:] Ah I don't know.
[Tom:] I don't think they could say anything, as I say there was no hosepipe ban then anyway so
[Arthur:] You say just a comment comment, what about that letter we had?
[Evelyn:] Yeah well
[Arthur:] It seems to be a pain in the neck me cleaning the... sometimes there's a lot of dog dirt, on yours as well as mine, and I, I and they were quite er happy to do that, yet it seems to irritate somebody over there.... Still. What about Mrs?
[Jackie:] Nice isn't it?
[Arthur:] Breaking her ankle.
[Evelyn:] Put those
[Arthur:] Put them on the floor Jackie.
[Evelyn:] How is Mrs? I've not heard.
[Jackie:] She came across for the first time today, I was out egg yard getting some eggs
[Evelyn:] Mm?
[Jackie:] and she poddled over, she said she'd been across to Fernbury Lodge for the first time
[Evelyn:] Oh
[Jackie:] yesterday.
[Evelyn:] mm
[Jackie:] Cos I thought she m I said have you been to the shop, thinking, I meant up here
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Jackie:] and she said no she'd been to pay her poll tax over there, she said she'd had a rest in one of the shops over there on the way
[Evelyn:] Mm
[Jackie:] back, so
[Evelyn:] She's doing alright.
[Arthur:] I didn't think they were like that, did you, these satellites?
[Tom:] Oh!
[Arthur:] You know.
[Tom:] Ah these, I thought they were... yeah... I was trying to think. I think, they, they're quite large aren't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] I, I've not been near one, I wouldn't know but... you have to stand next to them to get an effect, to kn know how big they are.
[Evelyn:] to get the er how big they are yeah.
[Tom:] That's right.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And it showed you all the sort of... countries of the world, you know, on lights and, and that, and which light was for which wh when they took us round the er
[Tom:] Oh that was interesting.
[Evelyn:] control room you know.
[Arthur:] Well yes you, you know the De Mont the stage and the organ and all that? It looked just like that
[Evelyn:] Mind that glass!
[Arthur:] er and the man was sitting there at a... looked like a lot of
[Evelyn:] A telephone
[Arthur:] looked like a great big piano, you know, with like the buttons and he were doing this... and they've got every country within range on the wa on whatever it was, wall or a gantry, and if that wasn't too, too good he, he were doing something and it come up. And, and, and all, he'd got all countries' television er going, you know, so you could look at any country at the moment, the moment it was producing.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] I thought it were wonderful.
[Evelyn:] Aye.
[Arthur:] It's er marvellous. When we were kids we'd never of dreamt of this would we?
[Jackie:] Oh no.
[Tom:] Yet the kids all seem to er... adapt to it just like that. [clicks fingers]
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Very very
[Tom:] And the, the son-in-law's got a, a computer hasn't he? And his
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] the little one, she's only four,
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] and er D er... er Dave was showing me how it works and he went out and the little one was saying I'll do it for you granddad, look this is how you do it, and she starts typing away, and she's four!
[Evelyn:] Four!
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Tom:] Just, you've gotta go on that, and she presses it and the chart thing which is... press that one and it'll get rid of it all. Doing and it all disappeared. And I thought ooh f you know, we were [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] I know my, my sister's er grandson, he's had a computer, he's fourteen... and er... anyway, oh he wanted a bigger one costing about eight hundred pounds. And now he's, they've got one and I think it was about five hundred pounds, they bought this one s but they managed to sell the other one for about a hundred and fifty they say.
[Tom:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Now he's got that, he says he wants a wordprocessor.
[Tom:] Mm.
[Jackie:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And they're expensive aren't they?
[Tom:] Er yes they are.
[Evelyn:] Ooh he, he's m mind you he, he reckons that's what he wants to do when he's older but... I mean the life, or the career of anybody in computers is not very long is it? Because they're changing so rapidly.
[Tom:] Yes, yeah.
[Evelyn:] I mean my, one of my friend's... sons, he was a computer man, he was working on his own but he's in his... I should think he's getting on for about forty six... and he was doing freelance but this recession... the people who er the firms who were employing him are using their own staff... and they're not calling on him now and er... he's not done any computing for twelve months.
[Tom:] Mm mm. The building n next to us, where we are, you know do you, on
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] Street? There's a big glass building next to us, have you seen it, it's
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] quite huge? And that was all, that was all computers, all computers.
[Evelyn:] Yes we kept going there when yeah.
[Tom:] Th th that's going now
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Tom:] because somewhere er headquarters, they're going to do the work for all the region, so therefore they've gotta go
[Evelyn:] They're, yeah.
[Tom:] So all those computer people are out
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Tom:] and you think Christ what's
[Evelyn:] Well erm I mean... Andrew, he was very clever, he went to university and as I say now he's nearly fif getting, getting towards fifty... well even so he's buying a house and last December things got so bad... he took a job as a dustman... a at Anstey, he lives
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] at Anstey, and he said well, got to pay the mortgage.
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Tom:] Mm, that's right. I mean, I could be er... mm maybe... they're going to give us numbers on the seventeenth how many
[Evelyn:] What as to
[Tom:] how many people they're gonna keep or not gonna keep so
[Evelyn:] Oh
[Tom:] we don't know who's gonna go or what, you know, it's quite worrying really but er
[Evelyn:] Oh it is really isn't it?
[Jackie:] Well you see he thought the Gas Board was here forever you know?
[Evelyn:] Well you do don't you? But
[Tom:] Well since they've gone private
[Evelyn:] And especially these computers where they change every...
[Tom:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] every few years don't they?
[Tom:] It's, it's er
[Arthur:] they employed
[Evelyn:] Yes [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] they employed six thousand people and when the came they all went to Law Street adjacent to the factory so they could walk across to the job and er look at it now, they've smashed it all down, it's gonna be an Asian big store. It's all been levelled now and taken away and they employed
[Evelyn:] No they're not, it's supposed to be being used
[Arthur:] six thousand people.
[Evelyn:] I don't know whether you go down Valmer Road do you?
[Jackie:] Not very often no.
[Tom:] I went, I went there about two years ago to Walkers Crisps and, that's just next door to er. I went by but yeah a lot of it's all down, there's still, still a part being kept though isn't there?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Oh they've still got a small part there.
[Arthur:] Ah that's, that's the American section.
[Tom:] That's right. Mm.
[Arthur:] American United.
[Tom:] That's the
[Arthur:] We w we was... partnerships you see well... when our place collapsed they carried on... just carried on a bit because they were connected with Japan. In fact er just before I retired they were saying, you know, my job's obsolete and that, and then and says oh we're opening up a big depot in Japan. So you see it's gone there you see.
[Evelyn:] So you [LAUGHTER] just retired in [] retired just about the right... time.
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Tom:] you know, it's gonna be difficult to get another job now, so
[Evelyn:] You're in the drawing office?
[Tom:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Cos I've been silly in the past, I've told Evelyn lots of times and... we had a new machine, a rapid na nailer, it er... nailed er army sho er soles onto the at five hun it used to do three hundred and fifty nails a minute and we m made one just for... I er went out on the road, er to five hundred a minute you see, and er we were building the first half a dozen and er... er there's two pawls at the back of the machine
[Evelyn:] Ooh we don't want to know.
[Arthur:] Ah but th th th there's a rack and w one goes on and holds the horn post up to the boot while it's driven, then it comes out... and there's two, one's half a tooth, so it ensures one or the other's in, and they work like that. So I was spinning the cam round, it hadn't got pinned to the shaft, just spinning it round on the shaft and these pawls were doing this... and Les, the top one, he went to Kettering and then Don, the next top one, he went to er
[Evelyn:] We don't want to know all this.
[Arthur:] r er Northampton and then finally I went to Rushden, and er this top one,, and his mate come out of the toilet, been for a smoke, and er walking by I said hey Les, look at this, and I spun the cam round and it went bang and stopped dead. He said well you've got no bloody springs on the pawls, I says... so I picked a tin of springs up, we kept it for anybody who wanted a spring for their bike, any spring where, you know the hooks on each end?
[Tom:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Well they broke off in wear and when you was overhauling a machine you'd throw these springs in the tin in case you ever wanted one. And he said er... oh he says er er there's no, your spring's broke. I s so I showed him this tin full, I says well look they do break don't they? Anyway, do you know the easiest, er and at that time five pound were five pound, if I 'd 've gone to the foreman and then the er
[Evelyn:] Drawing office.
[Arthur:] drawing office, I 'd 've got five pound on a suggestion. Anyway in the fullness of time er went to er
[Evelyn:] You said that.
[Arthur:] near Kettering, Don went to er Northampton and then finally I went to Rushden... and er I'd been there about a year and all of a sudden there was a call in for Shorteners at so I went down on the bike and er... what er the one over me who, who was elderly, well wasn't over me but he was er... he was on my job but the senior man on it... he come in, the boss had sent him in to have a look cos the er Shorteners were complaining, and er then they rang up for one of us, he said well I'm not leaving till I've solved this problem so I had to go. But er... all he did was, you know the two pawls that go in and out? He made a bit of eight inch wire, like er a U piece, and the bar at, bottom bar of the U held the tail so if the springs broke the tails didn't duck under and smash the cam. It'd smashed the cam and, and the lever and bent the shaft... colossal expense at that time.
[Tom:] Mm expensive
[Arthur:] Now him and his mate says ooh... er you, your spring's broke. Now I were bloody daft, If I 'd 've gone to the foreman and wanted to put a suggestion in, I, I, I 'd 've beat... sure they were crowing abou when he got... but I was first really wasn't I?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] I, I'd seen it before it happened
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] you see, and three more went like that eventually but er he got the dough and that was it.
[Tom:] That was it, mm.
[Arthur:] And Evelyn always says I'm too diffident to push my plate up and
[Evelyn:] Well, he used to come home and say that and I'd say put a suggestion in but
[Tom:] Mm.
[Jackie:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] if he did I [LAUGHTER] had to write to out for him [].
[Jackie:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Still we didn't do too badly. Anyway how long have you got to go before you retire?
[Tom:] Ooh eleven years officially.
[Evelyn:] Ooh.
[Tom:] if it was up to me I'm
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] gonna go in nine. I shall go at sixty three at the latest, I'm not going on to sixty five
[Evelyn:] Not staying longer.
[Tom:] and it might end up
[Evelyn:] No, no.
[Tom:] There's certain rumours that there's no
[Evelyn:] Still you might get a a big redundancy... pay out if you do.
[Tom:] Well... talking about a year's salary
[Evelyn:] Is that
[Tom:] You get a pension of course but it depends how many years
[Evelyn:] Yes you get a pension.
[Tom:] you've been there and I've only been there thirteen years so
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Tom:] that's not
[Evelyn:] Not as good.
[Tom:] they said about a quarter of my salary didn't they?
[Evelyn:] Mind you how many years were you in your pension? Not all that many.
[Arthur:] From the beginning weren't it?
[Evelyn:] No you weren't
[Arthur:] No?
[Evelyn:] the B U didn't have a pension scheme till after the war.
[Arthur:] No, no.... But talking about pensions i
[Evelyn:] Do you get a pension in yours?
[Jackie:] Only my own what I put in, no. I've been paying a full stamp since nineteen seventy four.
[Evelyn:] Yes, it's a good idea isn't it?
[Tom:] Yeah. The sad thing is
[Evelyn:] Well my friend never paid
[Arthur:] Tal talking about pensions Tom, the chap er cha with the office girls and that and, and checking our expense sheets, he, he er they put a notice on the board... you could ante your... what, in your pension, you could a put a bit more into it... and I were looking at notice and he says ooh he says it's no good for you, he says er... w well I told you about it didn't I?
[Evelyn:] Yes. And I said ooh
[Arthur:] He said ooh he says you won't get no more if you retire. So I mentioned it to Evelyn and, being an office-wallah, you know, and any, any e extra money she were all there, she worked it out says ooh that, it were another ten bob a week you see, well we've been
[Evelyn:] Which was a lot in those days.
[Jackie:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Well you had a rise as well.
[Arthur:] we've been glad we've been glad now haven't we er
[Evelyn:] So he anted his up. I mean ten shillings was a we a we was
[Jackie:] Mm, quite a lot, yeah.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] years ago.
[Arthur:] Yes but we're glad [LAUGHTER] now [].
[Evelyn:] Oh yes because now... mind you the B U pension's quite good because every year we, we get a p a percentage increase
[Tom:] Mm. Mm.
[Evelyn:] but I mean ours doesn't, mine doesn't, I mean mine's only a small one because I haven't done many years there.
[Tom:] Ours goes cost of living it says.
[Evelyn:] But er, oh that's alright if it does but the B U is, is, you know, a really good one.
[Jackie:] Mm.
[Tom:] But you've got to get some years in to get a really good pension, but I've got thirteen and... the maximum you can get is forty years but you get, then get two thirds of the salary you would have got,
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] your own salary, so that's pretty good for a pension isn't it? You know.
[Evelyn:] Still perhaps you get the earnings... thing don't you? Earnings related as well sort of thing.
[Tom:] That's being stopped though
[Evelyn:] Has it?
[Tom:] It's gonna be in the year two thousand they're gonna wipe it out.
[Evelyn:] Oh, oh [LAUGHTER]
[Tom:] So that's it.
[Evelyn:] Oh dear I'm not au fait with those things now.
[Jackie:] No well this is why w you know like my girls have got just to take their own now.
[Tom:] Take their own private ones see,
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Yeah my nieces are doing that, Audrey and er well her husband's self employed so er
[Tom:] See all the firms I've been to up till the Gas Board just gave you your money back for your pension.
[Evelyn:] Yes they did.
[Tom:] If they could have said to you would you keep it and, or transfer it t I would've said yes please.
[Evelyn:] Well they can do now, in those days they didn't.
[Tom:] But they, they could but they they didn't in my day, they just
[Evelyn:] No.
[Tom:] gave it to you back and you got no choice in the matter, that was it.
[Evelyn:] No they didn't, no, we didn't in our place.
[Tom:] So that was a shame really as far as I'm concerned.
[Arthur:] Do you reckon the er
[Evelyn:] Mm. Although Peter my friend's... he, he did that but er it didn't come to much, they 'd 've saved it or something, one job, cos he was made redundant about three times and er... one, one place he was at... they're supposed to have kept it and paying him it now but I don't know how they came about that bu because actually they we played him a dirty trick, they persuaded him to leave his job... and then about nine years or probably less than that later... you know and he was out again, redundant... and, you know, I think they felt a bit guilty but he only gets about five pounds a week from, off that one, which is
[Jackie:] Nothing is it? No.
[Arthur:] Er er do you reckon we ought to have had, you kn you know we went over to gas, I toyed with the idea of fetching that... do you know, you know when this house were built we went looking at a depot where they've got all these grates and I took th funnily enough I took the measurements of the breast... [LAUGHTER] and er [] the only one we found was just that... dead on look, right across
[Evelyn:] Is that recorder still on?
[Tom:] Oh yeah
[Arthur:] Oh ye yes, yes it's still going.
[Evelyn:] Oh that's alright, finish one tape.
[Arthur:] Tape and
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] well we shan't finish that lot shall [LAUGHTER] we at this rate []?
[Evelyn:] Well if you, if you finish three we're [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] You can't very well go in a pub [LAUGHTER] can you []?
[Tom:] No not really.
[Evelyn:] You've not seen Jackie's new lounge
[Arthur:] I er
[Evelyn:] have you?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] It's beautiful int it?
[Jackie:] Well it will be when it's finished, the curtains are
[Evelyn:] Have you finished?
[Jackie:] Well they came and fetched the curtains on Thursday, they've got to go back.
[Evelyn:] Why, what's the matter with those?
[Jackie:] Not level, the dining room one was two inches shorter one side than the other, the tie-backs
[Evelyn:] Really?
[Jackie:] were all creased, and the lounge
[Evelyn:] Ooh
[Jackie:] is like this! They weren't level at all. They came back
[Evelyn:] Ooh!
[Jackie:] back and they were disgusted so they've taken them down and gonna make me a complete new set.
[Evelyn:] Oh, oh I didn't know that, mm.
[Jackie:] Yeah. And he suggested tie-back is, cos it's, the pink is the thinner material, they're gonna pipe it instead of what they've tried. Oh the machining was dreadful.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Who, who was who was the
[Jackie:] Well Maples, they contract out to this
[Evelyn:] Ooh!
[Jackie:] workshop
[Evelyn:] Oh I see, Maples.
[Jackie:] But Cos they should be good there shouldn't they? Well this is it, the man was disgusted, he said oh dear.
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Tom:] They are very good though, they come when they say and they, they d they do something about it
[Jackie:] Oh they've been very good, oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Yes.
[Tom:] they don't just leave it, they'll go and do it, you know? They've very good
[Evelyn:] Mm. Cos we had Linekars, course they've gone out of business, but when he came, when the boss came to this one... he reckoned one of these was... a bit out didn't he?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Jackie:] But this, I mean they measured, in fact he even measured the track to see the, make sure the track wasn't level, you know, and
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Jackie:] Cos the windowsill is about an eighth of an inch out, well in one place
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Jackie:] but he still, the curtain was supposed to be something like sixty one and a half inches... one was about a sixty one and the other was about a sixty three one end, you know?
[Evelyn:] Tt oh that's sad. Oh what a shame.
[Jackie:] As he said it was Christmas rush I think, you know?
[Evelyn:] Yeah oh of course it was just before Christmas.
[Jackie:] But er you know they've just not done the edges properly either, you know. So they've all gone back. Luckily we've got the old curtains.
[Evelyn:] Cos I've not seen it with the curtains
[Jackie:] No
[Arthur:] Have another drink Tom?
[Evelyn:] Do you want a drop more sherry?
[Tom:] just a little drop then
[Arthur:] Go on.
[Tom:] just a small drop.
[Evelyn:] You pour it out Arthur, I can't get that cork off very easily.
[Arthur:] Tom, here you are then Tom
[Tom:] do you want some more
[Jackie:] No I'm fine.
[Evelyn:] have a martini.
[Jackie:] No I'm fine thanks.
[Arthur:] Have a whisky.
[Evelyn:] No! You can't mix the drinks. I thought Tom might have a whisky if he's got a
[Tom:] that's a funny
[Arthur:] Oh I, I don't want to don't want to butt in Tom
[Tom:] sometimes I feel I'm sh
[Arthur:] Ah never mind about it, what about with his new car?
[Evelyn:] What sort is it?
[Jackie:] It's a Ford Sierra.
[Arthur:] E Evelyn
[Evelyn:] Oh it's the same sort is it?
[Jackie:] Yeah he had a Ford last time didn't he?
[Evelyn:] Yes it was a Sierra
[Jackie:] It's not quite the same, it was erm
[Evelyn:] Maroon colour?
[Jackie:] Mm
[Arthur:] Do you reckon he's given,th there's been a lot of er goings er to-ings and from-ings, do you reckon they've had a whip round?
[Evelyn:] No! I don't think he could've been insured do you?
[Arthur:] Well there's been no end, there's been no end to it.
[Evelyn:] Well except for third party, how long
[Jackie:] It's funny, I don't know. Yeah.
[Evelyn:] he left it there, do you?
[Tom:] I don't know he's a s
[Jackie:] Mind you yours took a long time, you know that bump Tom had going to his
[Tom:] Mm, mm.
[Jackie:] mother's funeral? That was April, it's only just, you know?
[Tom:] Yeah but they sorted it straight away though didn't they?
[Evelyn:] Yes but I mean you get get the repair done don't you?
[Jackie:] Ye yeah.
[Tom:] Yeah.
[Jackie:] I mean that looked a write-off so I don't know
[Evelyn:] Well erm
[Tom:] You couldn't
[Evelyn:] and he said it wasn't cos he
[Arthur:] Funnily, funnily enough he, funnily enough his car's on that picture...
[Tom:] It is oh well it is, it's there, yeah.
[Evelyn:] M Martin said when he
[Arthur:] Have you noticed how he, he creeps that bit, he... you know, he, he don't keep back he, he just... he gets just that bit behind the
[Tom:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] you know?
[Jackie:] during the day cos our cars are not there.
[Evelyn:] No well that's what I said i er... and probably perhaps when you were on holiday.
[Arthur:] The road intrigues me Tom
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] how clean it looks and the, you know the marks, those black marks, they're the joints of the concrete where they
[Tom:] That's right,
[Arthur:] You know they kept
[Evelyn:] It looks very clean doesn't it?
[Tom:] Can you see the paving stones? They're white
[Evelyn:] Yeah, mm, that's what, yeah.
[Tom:] I've never noticed those before.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Jackie:] Well that's the new bit they did, you know, the little
[Tom:] Do you know y y you, it's a different aspect, you go out here and all you see everything at ground level and you can't really see on top of everything
[Evelyn:] Yes, mm,s see low, no.
[Tom:] But on there see you can see all the details can't you, at all.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] But I was struck, I was struck by the frame. I think that frame's worth it these days, I
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] I, but... I reckon you've got a bit of money in the fra in the frame. Cos I was
[Evelyn:] Oh that lady who came with this, she said er... Arthur happened to say he'd just bought it, and she said how much did they charge you, twenty five pounds or thirty pounds?
[Tom:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] So I said no, only twenty. So apparently... she said ooh he probably charges, perhaps if he's not very [LAUGHTER] he reduces the price [] but... funny she said twenty five pounds.
[Arthur:] She seemed to know about it.
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] And it's funny they came together and she, she pushed
[Evelyn:] She knew, not quite together.
[Arthur:] in while I were [LAUGHTER] with the other chap [].
[Evelyn:] No it was a minute afterwards because I thought
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] oh he's come back... for the, this, to show to you.
[Jackie:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I thought perhaps he'd been to you and... sort of were you interested and he he'd come back. But it was only a second No. after er sort of I'd more or less half a second and I thought oh he's come back again
[Arthur:] But, but I had more to do with her than Evelyn but er from what little bits I've gleaned, you know, er I'm a bit into everything like, and I seem to think, I've got a f strange feeling that she's something to do with education and they're worried about children not speaking properly eventu
[Evelyn:] No!
[Arthur:] Le let me finish. Er eventually they won't speak real English, with all this Asian kids in... now al all the Asian children have gotta go in any school haven't they and th everything, well sooner or later er this mixture of languages is gonna spoil the English language isn't it? Bound to.
[Tom:] Yes it's bound to.
[Evelyn:] No what the they'll do, they'll put all the words that are used into a computer er from all these things won't they? And then they'll see how many... are sort of used a lot and... percentage and that's what they'll do.
[Tom:] Mm. But as Arthur says though perhaps some of the Asian words will start being used by the English people.
[Evelyn:] Oh, oh yes yes. Well it says on the, on the thing we have to fill in... er... if any of the speakers is of non
[Arthur:] Non ra er non English, yeah.
[Evelyn:] English or something a different race if you like, you're to [LAUGHTER] put it down []. Because you only have to identify them by a name not... not a
[Arthur:] Do you look at er C Cilla?
[Evelyn:] not, not the surname, just J John or whoever
[Tom:] Mm
[Jackie:] Mm
[Evelyn:] and, but if any of them are of... not U K origin
[Tom:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] you've got to put it down and say which one it is.
[Arthur:] Do you ever look at this Cilla er Blind Date?
[Evelyn:] Oh did you see that tonight?
[Tom:] Yes
[Arthur:] Did you see t what do you make of that blackie with that lovely... lovely young girl, pretty as a picture, and he were doing this round her and leaning back, and his great big lips... ooh ooh!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Oh I hate it when [] white girl gets an
[Arthur:] Well if you were... if she were your daughter Jackie what would you have thought?
[Jackie:] I know, well I ha didn't see it last week but Tom said
[Evelyn:] No I didn't see it last week.
[Jackie:] she liked coloured people or something
[Tom:] Something like that, yeah.
[Jackie:] when they were talking to her. I was, where was I? I don't know
[Evelyn:] We didn't see last week's, I don't know, was something else on?
[Jackie:] But Tom said she was saying something about, you know, she liked coloured men or
[Tom:] Well she liked one of the coloured film stars, I don't know which one it was though
[Arthur:] Well we we're not against, we're not against coloureds, the fact that er you, you want to keep your race,i if you've got a... an alsatian or a, a bulldog, you don't mix it with a... some o you keep them, another bulldog with it don't you? And breed your bulldogs else you lose your race don't you?
[Evelyn:] Arthur don't like
[Arthur:] Sometimes on the television the, the
[Evelyn:] do you?
[Jackie:] Not very much
[Evelyn:] Not really
[Arthur:] they were showing something and er... one of the er Asian lads says ooh I'm English now, and his mate says no you're not, you're British. This were in a school playground. Course being at home all day you see we see these things.
[Evelyn:] That, that programme that follows that, we've never looked at it before, Barrymore er did you look at that?
[Jackie:] No
[Tom:] I've seen it before
[Evelyn:] We saw it once before
[Jackie:] seen it once but
[Tom:] He's a, he's a bit funny isn't he?
[Evelyn:] Yes, it was quite good really.
[Tom:] Sometimes he's alright and sometimes it doesn't go very well.
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Well he'd got a seven year old girl copying him hadn't he?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] I reckon he'd taught I reckon he'd taught her don't you?
[Evelyn:] I didn't see the beginning.
[Arthur:] She were doing all this that... and i the audience was screaming weren't they?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] But she'd got it off though hadn't she?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Then they had er... some fatty, fat... ladies, elderly ladies, doing the can-can.
[Tom:] Oh was it the Roly-Polies?
[Arthur:] Ooh that was grand.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] That was good []. Similar to the Roly-Polies but this was a sort of erm an amateur group.
[Tom:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Doing it for charity or
[Arthur:] We did, we did the Merry Widow and we had,th the Gazettes they're called,th the Gazettes and er they used to come out the wings with all this, you know? And as they run in er and I always thought it was the best of the show.
[Evelyn:] Oh well er it is nice isn't it?
[Arthur:] Mm.... But these were very fat weren't they? Made it more funny
[Evelyn:] Yeah, yeah. Like the Roly-Polies, they were good weren't they? I've not seen them lately have you?
[Jackie:] Yeah
[Tom:] didn't they, do you remember? Cos that, that,th leader gone now, she wasn't there but she turned up, she came on.
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Tom:] With the glasses.
[Arthur:] I like all the old silent er not silent, all the old talkies, you know the old black and white
[Evelyn:] The old classic films.
[Tom:] I like
[Evelyn:] But they're on too late at night, I can't stand
[Jackie:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] late nights, can you?
[Jackie:] Well we're, well when we're at work I'm not quite so bad
[Evelyn:] Do you, can you stay up, have you got a television
[Tom:] Sometimes
[Evelyn:] in your own bedroom?
[Tom:] No.
[Evelyn:] Oh....
[Tom:] We in the bedroom [LAUGHTER] []
[Arthur:] Well Evelyn me, she has this Alf Garnett on, I don't know why cos she, she's a bit particular but Alf Garnett's beyond the pale
[Evelyn:] Not always.
[Arthur:] and he swears and shouts. I said turn it down, you'll upset Tom and Jackie.
[Tom:] But that was a classic, classic one they were talking about at Christmas
[Evelyn:] When, last night?
[Tom:] er in one of the series I don't know which one it was. And er
[Evelyn:] Oh w well no you haven't got Sky, it's on Sky
[Jackie:] at Christmas
[Tom:] he says er and he's talking about Jesus going to the inn, er sorry Mary er Joseph going to the inn and er
[Evelyn:] Yes, yeah I think we saw that.
[Tom:] he said erm... of course er when they got there he said it was full up and there was nowhere to go he says, she says well it always is full at Christmas [LAUGHTER] isn't it []. [LAUGHTER]
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[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER] Oh you have to laugh don't you, at some of them []. Do you reckon there is anything on that damn cloud up there?
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] I, I look at these science things where, you know, they're sending these things, America's sending them, it's been going for two year... thousands of miles an hour, you know, probably a minute... er and the as the man came over who went to the moon, the top man, to lecture and he was asked innumerable questions and one was... do you think there's anything up there? He says well, I don't think keep waving your hands about at the window the... pigeons will be conspicuous by their absence.
[Evelyn:] Well perhaps it'll be a good thing in some ways, we're getting too many. You'll have no seed left before you're able to get to the shops to buy more.
[Arthur:] You know what Glen said on the moon.
[Evelyn:] Oh well.
[Arthur:] They asked him... what he missed the most, he said the birds.
[Evelyn:] Well we're not likely to miss those are we? We get too many....
[Arthur:] Well you'll miss them if they go away.
[Evelyn:] I shouldn't miss the pigeons all that much, I don't mind the blackbird and the thrush and the robin but... and a few starlings but I don't like... many pigeons about the garden. They're too dirty.
[Arthur:] They're not.
[Evelyn:] Yes they are.... Are you very bread hungry, toast hungry?
[Arthur:] Oh no I'm not hungry at all
[Evelyn:] Well you should be.
[Arthur:] ...
[Evelyn:] Well you... didn't have much after your... dinner yesterday did you?
[Arthur:] I don't know why you always have so many procedures remain in does it?
[Evelyn:] Don't be silly....
[Arthur:] We're not going to go out at all then today?
[Evelyn:] Not in this fog. And I think it's freezing, the pantry was like an ice box.... I know there's no frost on the cars but it must still be cold.
[Arthur:] What was like an ice box?
[Evelyn:] The pantry.... I mean I
[Arthur:] Well that's because the garage
[Evelyn:] I know I know but er
[Arthur:] You must have had the window open.
[Evelyn:] I didn't. It's just ever so cold....
[Arthur:] Quite cold is the phrase....
[Evelyn:] What did you say?
[Arthur:] I said quite cold is the phrase, not ever so cold.
[Evelyn:] Is it? Oh I stand corrected.
[Arthur:] You'll have to go back to the nursery.
[Evelyn:] You, you'd like to go back to school.... At your age.
[Arthur:] I'd show the kids a thing or two. [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] You might.... Apparently Jackie's got...
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] got one of these Wa Walkmans.
[Arthur:] Mm?
[Evelyn:] Beverley bought it her.
[Arthur:] What do they do with it?
[Evelyn:] Well you can plug into the radio on these.
[Arthur:] Oh I see
[Evelyn:] That's you see the kids with them round their neck
[Arthur:] Yes, oh they listen to it
[Evelyn:] Listen to the radio, if, if you look at the
[Arthur:] Yes but you can tape
[Evelyn:] I know but if you're out.
[Arthur:] Oh aye I see what you
[Evelyn:] You see the kids walking by with them, don't you?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And on the buses you sometimes see it. See them
[Arthur:] Anyway it was only a small
[Evelyn:] The eggs are not done yet.... You want them
[Arthur:] Well do you want any tapes doing...
[Evelyn:] Of ours? No. I shouldn't do it. I should do your photo album.
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Evelyn:] It's about time that was... done.
[Arthur:] Completed. another box.
[Evelyn:] Well you can get a, get one.
[Arthur:] Or or no I can make that higher....
[Evelyn:] No I should get another one, be too heavy to carry. I know but ma make one or buy one of those and
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] and extend it but... I, I've not timed the eggs so you'll have to
[Arthur:] Well does that really matter?
[Evelyn:] Yes it does! I don't like mine too done well.
[Arthur:] I've never timed an egg in my life.
[Evelyn:] Well, you never cook eggs that's why.
[Arthur:] Well I have done in in the past.... Remember that landlady at Rushden.... She said if you're not coming home for... if you're not coming home for dinner I'll boil you an egg
[Evelyn:] Two eggs.
[Arthur:] you want something substantial.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] If that's what you call, I, I told mother, I said if that's what they call [LAUGHTER] substantial [] in Northamptonshire they don't live very well....
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Well we want we've got twenty tapes to run []
[Arthur:] What the hell's it good going with nothing on it?
[Evelyn:] Well it... something on it now.
[Arthur:] It is now! But it wasn't when you when was in the kitchen and I was on my own.
[Evelyn:] Well that's only
[Arthur:] Who could I talk to?... You're er getting obstreperous....
[Evelyn:] Now eat that egg.
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] Do you want another one?
[Arthur:] Yes dear.
[Evelyn:] No I'll have that one, this one will be done more....
[Arthur:] Bring on the dancing girls.
[Evelyn:] That's done a bit more....
[Arthur:] have bacon
[Evelyn:] Well we don't have it on Sunday because we always have a great big lunch so I never
[Arthur:] A large lunch. [LAUGHTER] A large lunch [].
[Evelyn:] only have a light... a light breakfast, you know we do. If you can remember that far....
[Arthur:] At eighty two you're ready for the off.
[Evelyn:] Mm not yet....
[Arthur:] We've not got the... er we haven't got any burnt offerings er
[Evelyn:] Yes, the other side of the toast.... Have you seen any programmes today, what's on?
[Arthur:] No....
[Evelyn:] Is yours alright?
[Arthur:] Just right....
[Evelyn:] These are the eggs I had from the butcher....
[Arthur:] Has got a poultry farm?
[Evelyn:] I don't know. Well we've got to find a new supplier haven't we?...
[Arthur:] ...
[Evelyn:] Well there's that farm... on the way to [crockery noise] Oh!
[Arthur:] I'm doing that all the time.
[Evelyn:] Well it's, it's your hands, you wash them too much.
[Arthur:] No I don't, I swing across and hit your
[Evelyn:] Well put your glasses on. You tell me.
[Arthur:] It's not that....
[Evelyn:] Well you tell me that,
[Arthur:] It's
[Evelyn:] if I knock anything you say you should wear your glasses or
[Arthur:] tell you anything.
[Evelyn:] I know you do.
[Arthur:] It's careless, I go over look...
[Evelyn:] That means your eyes are not... working properly....
[Arthur:] Yours worked when you married me.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Perhaps they ought not to have done.... Hmm not bad eggs are they?
[Arthur:] No.... Birds have gone you see, they have what they want and then go.
[Evelyn:] Well they've eaten all that seed up haven't they? Have you stared that new bag?
[Arthur:] Well a bit cos the other's in the... the garden shed, you know, with the seed and that.... had to climb over your...
[Evelyn:] Well why put it right at the back?
[Arthur:] Well I just slung it in, I clear passage i into the garage.... It went on the bench and it went on the floor.
[Evelyn:] Put it in one of those cardboard boxes we've got. Plenty of those cartons about.
[Arthur:] You always like the Is and Ts crossed.... What's for lunch anyway?
[Evelyn:] Chicken, I told you.
[Arthur:] Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] And the rest of that spring cabbage. It was alright wasn't it?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Did you like it?
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Evelyn:] Now eat all that marmalade.... Finish that bread, you don't eat enough bread.... I think I'll get some more Seville oranges while they're in and make another...
[Arthur:] Do they come from Seville?
[Evelyn:] I expect that's where they come from.
[Arthur:] Ah I know what they say but do they come from
[Evelyn:] Well yes there's only... only this time of the year that they're about so... I think they must only grow them there... that make the best marmalade.... This grapefruit and lemon's alright but... although our Madge prefers this to Seville, I don't....
[Arthur:] Your Madge is too fastidious.... Isn't she?
[Evelyn:] Was that a? No, no.
[Arthur:] no. He ha he has a white coll a big collar round his neck.... Also he's very big....
[Evelyn:] Ah yeah well I couldn't quite see.... My eyes are getting worse I think.
[Arthur:] One pigeon's eating the potato I threw out yesterday....
[Evelyn:] Well let them clear th all the bits off first before you put any more out.... Isn't it, this marmalade's alright isn't it?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] It's what I made the other week.... Jackie looked a bit better last night I thought, didn't you?
[Arthur:] Mm. Mm.... Did?
[Evelyn:] Mm? Yes, she had sherry. Didn't have much, you know.... Tom's getting fat though int he?
[Arthur:] Well ain't we all?
[Evelyn:] Well you're not. You grizzle yours off.... But did, did you hear he might be made redundant?
[Arthur:] Mm?
[Evelyn:] Did you hear what he said?
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Evelyn:] He said erm... cos the Gas Board o offices are moving to
[Arthur:] Somewhere else, aye.
[Evelyn:] Birmingham or somewhere....
[Arthur:] They wouldn't go over to Birmingham.
[Evelyn:] What after spending all that money on the house?
[Arthur:] Well...... Look at my firm. Razed it
[Evelyn:] Give all those crusts to the birds.
[Arthur:] razed it to the ground
[Evelyn:] Mm....
[Arthur:] Bring the tea in Evelyn.
[Evelyn:] Do you want any whisky in it? Or
[Arthur:] Well j yes
[Evelyn:] or have you had enough? You're not going out.
[Arthur:] just, just, just a taste.... Look the f fog is getting thick.
[Evelyn:] It is on the green and yet the back seems to be clearer.
[Arthur:] Well the trees are...
[Evelyn:] I'm going to try and manage without that er support on my arm today.
[Arthur:] Take this marmalade knife before it gets
[Evelyn:] Well you should've put it on your plate.
[Arthur:] Well it's supposed to be on the mat but er you've moved it.... You pushed it aside dear, like you push me aside
[Evelyn:] Mm.... I told you Cath er... and Vince can't come today didn't I?
[Arthur:] You told me what?
[Evelyn:] Cath and Vince can't come today.
[Arthur:] Wh why?
[Evelyn:] Cos... because Cath's got a cold and she thinks it
[Arthur:] Oh were were they coming then?
[Evelyn:] Well they often do come Sunday, I wanted her to come for er... Penny's birthday present [cough] but she said er well it's not wise is it?
[Arthur:] Well I suppose not....
[Evelyn:] Tom reckons there's er
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] another er
[Arthur:] It says remember to press record but I see no record on there.... Oh it is it's, it's at the top, mm.
[Evelyn:] Record, battery. Yeah.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] That has to be, show, why
[Arthur:] Yes, show.
[Evelyn:] didn't you think it is working it's
[Arthur:] No er it were the record
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Arthur:] I don't remember seeing it written but you see it's, it's not
[Evelyn:] Yes it is. You see that's the red light.
[Arthur:] you don't really look at that at along
[Evelyn:] No. There....
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] No Tom said there's a s er a stronger for form of flu now... been going about, you know, different from erm
[Arthur:] The original.
[Evelyn:] Oh what's that on your cup?... Bottom of your cup.
[Arthur:] It's marmalade I think.... I dropped some
[Evelyn:] You've got
[Arthur:] marmalade
[Evelyn:] Silly....
[Arthur:] still in my saucer.... Has Vince got it or only Cath? The flu.
[Evelyn:] Vince started it and Cath's got a bit of it, well sh it's not the flu as yet but
[Arthur:] What about Timothy?
[Evelyn:] Oh I don't know about Tim.... He's always got something.
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Evelyn:] You know I was dreaming about the office
[Arthur:] Who told you did Cath te tell you?
[Evelyn:] I rang her up last night.
[Arthur:] I didn't know....
[Evelyn:] I w I was dreaming about the office... last night, and I saw Miss
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] as large as life. And a, and a s
[Arthur:] Who was she? Your old schoolteacher?
[Evelyn:] No! Mr 's secretary, you know
[Arthur:] Oh
[Evelyn:] Dorothy who came
[Arthur:] Oh aye. Well you had so many girl er names.
[Evelyn:] No and I saw her... type a letter and sign it as clear as anything....
[Arthur:] You were reliving the past.
[Evelyn:] Yes. I know but er but the funny thing was
[Arthur:] Do you ever see me in er
[Evelyn:] No I never see you in my dreams.
[Arthur:] Oh yes you blank me off then when you go to sleep.
[Evelyn:] Yes I do.... No and we'd got three young girls, new, new girls... and I saw those and... I must have been thinking about Mandy... and the car because... they said something about oh when we leave we're all going on a picnic to... and I think it was Kettering or... quite some time aw some
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] way away
[Arthur:] What did they do when they got there?
[Evelyn:] Oh it didn't go into that, silly. No but it must've been talking about youngsters having cars
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] and er... I mean and these were three young girls, they only just started to work and yet they'd got a car and as soon as they [LAUGHTER] finished they... they were going on this picnic []
[Arthur:] I used to think dreams, you sort of stored in your mind, you know, cos as a lad I did er sle once or twice sleep walk... and er... at lunchtimes they used to delegate... er when you was on your last half year they used to delegate one every day to pick
[Evelyn:] I know you've... I don't want to hear all that.
[Arthur:] to pick up the lunch papers and er... anyway one, one night I was wa walking across and er... my dad called out what you doing? What you doing? And er I said I'm going to pick the papers up, he said get back into bed
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] and I, I remember mother saying oh we shouldn't wake them when they're
[Evelyn:] Asleep.
[Arthur:] and the, the second sleep walk was... I came down the stairs er they were having supper, of course when I was very young we went to bed early... er I come down the stairs and opened the door and then I woke up.
[Evelyn:] Ooh. Do you want another cup?
[Arthur:] And they're the only two, yes please, they're the only two times that I recall sleep walking. What it is, er they say it's an o o overactive brain don't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm that's quite likely with you....
[Arthur:] Do you think it's what, when you use what you've stored in there, bringing it back?
[Evelyn:] No [speaking from another room]...
[Arthur:] Sometimes you dream things that you've never sort of c... Have you finished with engines?
[Evelyn:] No I've brought, bringing other cups of tea in.
[Arthur:] Gonna say it's
[Evelyn:] No it's not.... Now you you'll tip that over when it, with it not being level.
[Arthur:] marmalade.
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] It's sticky.
[Evelyn:] get another mat.
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] I've not brought another spoon, give me yours. Ah look what you've done! All over the cloth
[Arthur:] Er
[Evelyn:] that tea!... You've spilt it.
[Arthur:] Well you it's rushing me aren't you?
[Evelyn:] No I'm not....
[Arthur:] Well you could've washed the marmalade out while you were s out the saucer.
[Evelyn:] Well why had you put marmalade in the saucer?
[Arthur:] It dropped in off the spoon.
[Evelyn:] Oh well you should have had your plate near shouldn't you?
[Arthur:] You always want the Ts crossing and the Is done.
[Evelyn:] You keep saying that, now shut up....
[Arthur:] Yes dear.
[Evelyn:] How's your shoulder?
[Arthur:] Oh it's about the same.
[Evelyn:] I see you rubbing it. I thought you said it was improving?
[Arthur:] Off and on. Well it's, more or less is. About the same as yesterday I meant.... Oh well it looks like being frosty Friday doesn't it?
[Evelyn:] Well you, you can clear the table and put a few more photos in the album.... How many more cards have you got to fill?
[Arthur:] Too many I'm afraid, those thin ones.
[Evelyn:] Well you bought them.
[Arthur:] Yes there's a blind spot in everyone's mind int there? And I'd thought they'd be, suffice....
[Evelyn:] Well they're alright, I mean
[Arthur:] They're too flimsy.
[Evelyn:] you can't have everything, they're not too flimsy.
[Arthur:] They do, they flex too much.... waft about.
[Evelyn:] No they don't, when they're, when when they're on top of all the others and you just turn them over more gently.... And we'll go to that new place, Office World. Because we've got to get out one day next week, I'm getting low on things.
[Arthur:] Well I shall want something because there are all those French photographs I've got.
[Evelyn:] No, no well I've got to do some food shopping next week, I must, and a bag of potatoes.
[Arthur:] Yeah I expect we'll
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] ... Everywhere's dead, no movement is there now?
[Evelyn:] Mm well it's Sunday morning, people at work have a lie in don't they?
[Arthur:] Well I never used to, did you?...
[Evelyn:] I did in my teens, I used to have breakfast in bed on a Sunday.
[Arthur:] Yeah you're talking about a dream, because er in my mind I can hear George now in a bar lounge... I walked in, he was with two of his mates... and we got talking, he said here's my, this is m he used to say Chip then, you know, George did... this is my young Chip he said... he goes to work in the middle of the night. You see painters couldn't start till nine, till the sun got up you know to
[Evelyn:] Mm
[Arthur:] they had to go round with a blow lamp to get the frost and the dew... in those big houses
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Cos I said to young George, his son, I said... he came when I was painting the sills and... I says what do you do when it's frosty when you start to work? Oh we just go along with a blow lamp.. Suppose it's one way isn't it?
[Evelyn:] Mm.... Here comes the big pigeon, there he is.
[Arthur:] I don't think they should
[Evelyn:] Look.
[Arthur:] Oh yeah. He's got a white collar you see and also he's very big
[Evelyn:] Yeah, I can see.
[Arthur:] very fat... o obese.
[Evelyn:] I should think he is fat on what you put out for him.
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] Or her.
[Arthur:] it's got feelings like anything else, he wants to live.... Looks as if they've cleared it all up, he's looking all around. There weren't all that many came either.
[Evelyn:] There were, there were about twenty.
[Arthur:] You exaggerate so.
[Evelyn:] I don't.
[Arthur:] Yes you do.... You sound just like my wife at times.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Pity I'm not. [LAUGHTER]...
[Arthur:] Are you glad you married me?...
[Evelyn:] I suppose....
[Arthur:] Hmm... you didn't sound too very enthusiastic....
[Evelyn:] You shouldn't ask the obvious should you?...
[Arthur:] Wonder how you'd've got on with our Bill [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] [cough] I might have tamed him.
[Arthur:] I doubt it....
[Evelyn:] Anyway he didn't appeal to me.
[Arthur:] Very mean.... He was a r a r a rare one for getting little sharp digs in wasn't he?
[Evelyn:] Mm like you sometimes.
[Arthur:] We went in the Gra Grand just done the lounge at the Grand and... when we had our first car... and I went round to see mother and I said come on, we'll go up to the, take you up to the Grand and have a drink. And we walk in the lounge and they've got two foot round copper covered tables, they'd covered the original with sheet... and the the there was only us two and he was polishing them, you know, getting them ready
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Bill says... you love d er cleaning those don't you? And he were gonna make something of it, the barman, you know? He always got these nasty little digs in.... Are you coming back?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] Good.
[Evelyn:] I'm not finished.
[Arthur:] Have we had seconds? Mm have we had seconds?
[Evelyn:] Well do you want any more toast?
[Arthur:] No I just wondered that's all.
[Evelyn:] It's about time I washed these, they've got all, you've stuck them all up. [LAUGHTER] Phew []. Ooh... that'll be the day. Come on, let's clear these things off. Leave that on.
[Arthur:] You think, you think er you think I'm a good trencherman then, look
[Evelyn:] Mind.
[Arthur:] eh?...
[Evelyn:] Are you going to do your
[Arthur:] I might as well if you
[Evelyn:] Well let's put this on the
[Arthur:] if you insist.
[Evelyn:] Well it's, it's a job that's got to be done and you can do it on a... miserable day.
[Arthur:] Hurry up and put it on there I don't want to stand with these forever.
[Evelyn:] I'm looking for the cloth I can't find it.
[Arthur:] There's one on the ta on
[Evelyn:] That yellow one, where's that yellow one gone?
[Arthur:] Didn't know we had one.... No I didn't, not recently anyway.
[Evelyn:] Here it is look, yellow embroidered one. This one.
[Arthur:] Tatty old thing.
[Evelyn:] I know but if you're going to get glue on it you might as well get it on this instead of on the lace one. I just washed that, that's a lovely colour.
[Arthur:] You could have fooled me.
[Evelyn:] Hmm... not very often.... Now get your cards out and the glue. Keep the glue on the, this.
[Arthur:] What are you going to do now? Clean the kitchen?
[Evelyn:] In a minute or two. Have you found them?
[Arthur:] Well I don't know, they're around somewhere. [moaning] Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!
[Evelyn:] Let me move that chest. You'll hurt yourself.... There you are. You see you do forget
[Arthur:] Right
[Evelyn:] these days.
[Arthur:] we shall want two boxes then shan't we?
[Evelyn:] That's what I said, you'll have to start another
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] one cos
[Arthur:] Gonna sort the albums out first, one to two.
[Evelyn:] Put them in numerical order, have you got them all mixed up now?
[Arthur:] Yeah I have, yeah, but they're all numbered.
[Evelyn:] I know they're numbered but... they're not in the right order.
[Arthur:] ...
[Evelyn:] Well you want to start with the bottom number on the bottom don't you?
[Arthur:] Yes. I want
[Evelyn:] No what, what's the last number you've got? You put that down
[Arthur:] Number one.
[Evelyn:] [shouting] No the last number []...
[Arthur:] Well that's
[Evelyn:] on the bottom
[Arthur:] that's
[Evelyn:] and then, then it will be, one will come on the top!
[Arthur:] Yes then when you go on another holiday you've gotta fetch all of them out, shove them under the bottom. You start at one
[Evelyn:] No
[Arthur:] er listen, you start at one and we get to a hundred and four
[Evelyn:] Ah I see what you mean.
[Arthur:] and er, if you do it the other way
[Evelyn:] Well if it was in chronological order, you want one on the top.
[Arthur:] Yes I know but when you come to put a another one on you've gotta lift them all out.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] I know what you mean []. Well start another box then. You do it your way.
[Arthur:] I always do.
[Evelyn:] I know you do. You never take advice from me. You haven't numbered that one.
[Arthur:] Haven't I? Where's that one where... there's a long one ain't there of er... with you er the whole
[Evelyn:] The set? Yeah.
[Arthur:] one of the whole set.
[Evelyn:] Well you'd got it, is it, erm well there, you'll have to sort through them.
[Arthur:] Yeah I shall have to.
[Evelyn:] Won't you? Till you... you'll be doing, we'll have to find another table....
[Arthur:] Didn't know we'd got so many, did you?
[Evelyn:] Yes you haven't done it up for years have you? Put this year's on one pile.
[Arthur:] Yeah, right, what I'm after is that... set one.
[Evelyn:] Well do it methodically.... Come here, let me go through them.
[Arthur:] No let's get it er put these in first....
[Evelyn:] Give them to me, I'll sort, find the
[Arthur:] No you
[Evelyn:] one you want.
[Arthur:] you er
[Evelyn:] Give it to me.
[Arthur:] Yes I think those are, well that's the top
[Evelyn:] Take that, cos that's the top one.
[Arthur:] that'll go on the top.... number one, well you get washing done and... then you can come in when your hands are clean.
[Evelyn:] My hands are clean, I've just
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] done the washing up so they are clean.... That's going.
[Arthur:] Oh mhm.
[Evelyn:] We seem to have er...
[Arthur:] Seems to have
[Evelyn:] That bit.
[Arthur:] What will you be doing today then?
[Evelyn:] Well as it's foggy I don't think we can go out.
[Arthur:] No....
[Evelyn:] It's a pity we didn't go yesterday
[Arthur:] Course we was gonna show Tom and Madge the, that er... aerial view of the house.
[Evelyn:] Oh well we've got plenty of time for that.
[Arthur:] Time for that, mm, besides it, there might be a lot of salt about.
[Evelyn:] Ooh you get obsessed with salt you do.
[Arthur:] Well it's not that,i it's so they... they like to get rid of it for the summer and i if there's a... sign of a bit of frost out they all come, shoving it onto the road and rotting everybody's cars.
[Evelyn:] Has it froze the water to last night?
[Arthur:] No it's s spitting with rain.
[Evelyn:] Is it? Mm.
[Arthur:] Just like, well more like fog really.
[Evelyn:] Well do you know what, I forgot to take the chicken out of the fridge last night so... we can't have dinner so
[Arthur:] Oh dear.
[Evelyn:] too early.
[Arthur:] Put it in the stove, that'll thaw it.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Don't be silly [] it is thaw nearly thawed anyway, it won't, I'll do it right away I've just remembered.
[Arthur:] Well must we have chicken?
[Evelyn:] Yes I haven't got anything else except t tins, and you don't want tins on a Sunday do you?
[Arthur:] Best bread and dripping.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh ooh where's [] the dripping coming from?...
[Arthur:] The butchers. Yeah I used to like their pork er dripping.... I used to like Cocklin's pork dripping
[Evelyn:] N not for breakfast. Anyway what are you going to have?
[Arthur:] Burnt chicken
[Evelyn:] no I'm talking now
[Arthur:] chicken fricassee
[Evelyn:] I'm not talking, that's silly.
[Arthur:] er lightly done kippers on one side.
[Evelyn:] Ooh. Now, boiled or poached or?
[Arthur:] Boiled will do....
[Evelyn:] I think er Tom and Jackie were alright last night weren't they?
[Arthur:] What, do you mean?
[Evelyn:] Yes, I think so. They didn't seem to object.
[Arthur:] No....
[Evelyn:] [cough]... Did you?...
[Arthur:] We could have a banana souffle
[Evelyn:] Well we, we couldn't, don't be silly. No I said what are you going to do t this morning? Are you going to do some more t put some more snaps in the album?
[Arthur:] Well it depends on you, if you're not going out it's
[Evelyn:] We ca we can't go out in this weather, this frost.... Fog I mean.
[Arthur:] There's er one of the pigeons I shall have to go and put some seed down.
[Evelyn:] Well you'd better go and feed them then. I think we've got to find another cupboard for these glasses.... They're getting broken....
[Arthur:] Er...
[Evelyn:] What do you want?
[Arthur:] well if you have that bookcase in my room that a bit wobbly.
[Evelyn:] No that tips over it's a bit wobbly.
[Arthur:] Well I could screw it to the wall.
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] It is a glass cupboard.
[Evelyn:] No I'm not going to keep, I don't want to keep them up there.
[Arthur:] Er
[Evelyn:] No I shall have to find room for some of the pots and leave the glasses in....
[Arthur:] What about the chest, empty the chest?
[Evelyn:] No you can't have gl wine glasses in there.
[Arthur:] Well I should have thought so.
[Evelyn:] No you can't.
[Arthur:] Oh....
[Evelyn:] No I think I'll move some of the other... silver bits in.... I didn't know we'd got that in there, did you? Oh that's been broken before has it?... See that little thing.... I think that's a bit better. [clears throat]... I'll er... [cough]... Yes I should use them, they cost nearly three pounds and if... put some on the other side it will stabilize it.... Have you found your pens?
[Arthur:] Yeah right at the back. [sniff]...
[Evelyn:] Well you couldn't find them the other day, you said they weren't there didn't you?
[Arthur:] . Hey hundred and eleven
[Evelyn:] Hundred and eleven?
[Arthur:] ... That's only for the index if you want to get one out
[Evelyn:] Yeah are you keeping the index... up to date now?
[Arthur:] Er well
[Evelyn:] I mean on there, how far have you got?
[Arthur:] I've got all that. Got all the
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Arthur:] What are we up to date, a hundred and four?
[Evelyn:] Yeah we've got another seven
[Arthur:] La Rochelle.
[Evelyn:] seven to do.
[Arthur:] La Rochelle.... How do you mean another seven?
[Evelyn:] Well you're on hundred and eleven now
[Arthur:] Oh I see what you mean, er only to write on there
[Evelyn:] so you, yes, yes. But I should do each one as you come to it. Save all this... faffing about.
[Arthur:] You would but I don't.
[Evelyn:] No. You never do.
[Arthur:] And another thing you see they're not as long as look, look
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] they've cut them short.
[Evelyn:] Mm well you gave them the size and you checked the size.
[Arthur:] I know but look yes but they've cut them short.
[Evelyn:] You checked it when you got them back. I'm sure you did. Well sooner be a bit be shorter
[Arthur:] Shorter
[Evelyn:] than too long
[Arthur:] Well I could can't I?
[Evelyn:] No it isn't, it's alright. You use it.
[Arthur:] Those
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] look... all over the look.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Oh you've used it have you?
[Arthur:] Oh yeah,
[Evelyn:] Oh you've got the other side to do.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Ah but now your numbers' ll all be wrong.
[Arthur:] But it's er well it don't matter, put a number on and look for it.
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Arthur:] Hundred and seven.
[Evelyn:] Well use that then.
[Arthur:] Hundred and eight, hundred and nine. Well that's alright, we're hundred and ten
[Evelyn:] Well you've just laid hundred and ten on the back of that.
[Arthur:] On this?
[Evelyn:] Yes, you have a look.... I just saw you write it down.
[Arthur:] Well that's
[Evelyn:] You can alter that to a hundred and eleven can't you?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Make that a hundred and ten.
[Arthur:] Hundred and eight, hundred and nine... hundred and ten.
[Evelyn:] Hundred and ten. Do that sheet and get it out of the way.... Do you want this light on?
[Arthur:] Eh? No not particularly....
[Evelyn:] Well, I've got the Christmas pudding. Shall I pull these curtains back now? Half back?
[Arthur:] Yeah....
[Evelyn:] Ooh the fog's nearly cleared.... What are you going to put on that side?
[Arthur:] Don't know I'm just going to sort them out when I get this card... This is lovely board this one is.
[Evelyn:] I thought, I thought you said you hadn't used, we were going to take that as a specimen.
[Arthur:] Well we still can can't we?
[Evelyn:] What with the pictures on?
[Arthur:] Why not?
[Evelyn:] Put your pen on there so it doesn't mark the cloth. Rest it on there. Well that doesn't matter, the ink won't come out of it....
[Arthur:] Well don't stand on anything
[Evelyn:] I'm not standing on anything I'm, I'm just going back in the kitch
[speaker001:] Are you ready for coffee yet?
[Arthur:] Yes, or something stronger.
[Evelyn:] Well, well do,wha say what you want.
[Arthur:] Er... show me the menu.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Don't be silly []! No, you can have... er can ha, it's a bit early to have a drink.
[Arthur:] Well, coffee then.
[Evelyn:] You have coffee with a drop of er
[Arthur:] With a dash.
[Evelyn:] whisky in.
[Arthur:] Coffee and a dash.
[Evelyn:] Is that all?
[Arthur:] Yeah. From now on it's.
[Evelyn:] Don't be silly! Ooh! Stop it!... Don't throw these er
[Arthur:] No. They're all i in the throwing, I throw nothing away.
[Evelyn:] brochures away from the hotels. I want these.
[Arthur:] I don't throw anything away.
[Evelyn:] Cos we might go back there.
[Arthur:] Which one's that?
[Evelyn:] That er... Lakeside..
[Arthur:] Yes but i, well it's an easy ride and... I'd go there.
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] Int it?
[Evelyn:] That's enough to video this Abu Dhabi. Which do you like?
[Arthur:] Abu Dhabi?
[Evelyn:] This one? Yes, well that nice
[Arthur:] We, well which
[Evelyn:] one with the lovely lounge! Well they're both nice lounges but... overlooking the sea.
[Arthur:] Oh er... the second one
[Evelyn:] Meridian
[Arthur:] The second one we went to?
[Evelyn:] Yes, the second one.
[Arthur:] Well, if that's your choice, it's your choice. Who am I to de descent against it.
[Evelyn:] Don't know where all these bits of tinsel keep coming from!
[Arthur:] From the... Christmas decorations. From under the... Welsh dresser I suppose.
[Evelyn:] I know that! I'll get your coffee then.
[Arthur:] Well I thought you'd never ask!
[Evelyn:] I did ask! Don't be silly!... I've got make a fresh lot.... You didn't remind me about the steamer with the puddings did you?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] Well you should have!
[Arthur:] Well yo, I wanted to make you a timer. Yo, we got plenty of clocks we can plug in from.
[speaker001:] What have you torn this one of me up for?
[Arthur:] Well it were u under there with more of the rubble, so I brought it out to flatten it if I could but
[Evelyn:] No! You should throw that away.
[Arthur:] No, it's a garden int it? The beginning of the garden.
[Evelyn:] Yes well
[Arthur:] Pity that! Shows you how I made it you see, but now
[Evelyn:] Mm mm.
[Arthur:] I've got no record of it.
[Evelyn:] Well you shouldn't have scre, you should have
[Arthur:] Unless we got the, probably got another film somewhere.
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] We
[Evelyn:] you, you should
[Arthur:] we
[Evelyn:] have er
[Arthur:] we never throw any away. I'll have look one day.
[Evelyn:] You should have... made this years and years ago shouldn't you?
[Arthur:] Well we had a lot to do didn't we? What with the stage and... don't you remember I used to come home Sa Saturday afternoon then start digging?... Do you remember?
[Evelyn:] Mm. You never found those... labels I made out did you?
[Arthur:] No. Well you, I went on the stage Saturday morning, then I used to come home to have my lunch and... start digging.
[Evelyn:] That's damn funny where they went to! Can you get them?
[Arthur:] Well I looked through all that stuff when I cleared up this morning.
[Evelyn:] Yeah, yeah I'm going to make some new ones, I've got plenty.
[speaker001:] You'll have to go easy on the whisky in case you get
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] the flu. It's nearly half gone!
[Arthur:] That wasn't fitted. I wo, could have been off there to get it in and I've cut it somewhere. But if I pull it off it'll tear.
[Evelyn:] No, I shouldn't. Well cut it off there. You cut a bit off the top or the bottom.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Yeah. Well it won't look the same, but still
[Evelyn:] Yes it will!
[Arthur:] Ha!
[Evelyn:] Here, drink this coffee.... Drink that coffee. Ooh! That's not very solid.... If I put it on there you'll probably spill it all over the photographs.... [cough]... You have made a mess of this drawer!
[Arthur:] Well clear it out then and throw away what you don't want, that's
[Evelyn:] Well, it's you that's er
[Arthur:] That's what I do.
[Evelyn:] I cleared it out the other day!
[Arthur:] That's what I often do, is clear mine out and
[Evelyn:] Ooh! Ooh!
[Arthur:] throw stuff away I don't want.
[Evelyn:] Ooh! You never throw anything away!... Cut th, you can cut the bottom off that.
[Arthur:] Yes. I
[Evelyn:] That.
[Arthur:] know but the then you you run out like that. You just run out to the corners.
[Evelyn:] Yes! Well you can cut the bottom off that.
[Arthur:] Cut th... soon see can't we?
[Evelyn:] I'll bring you the scissors cos you haven't got them.
[Arthur:] No, I got my knife here.
[Evelyn:] Oh! Well drink that coffee, it'll soon get cold.
[Arthur:] What are you looking for now? There's two boxes of paints under there. I bet they'll have gone home now don't you?
[Evelyn:] No! Churchill had some... for over forty years!
[Arthur:] Well we had some didn't we a long while and
[Evelyn:] Yes, but we haven't had them forty years.... Put a bit of... the turps in and they're alright.... Well... better go and... baste the chicken... I think. No, drink this coffee Arthur! It's no use, gotta
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] the whisky bottle sa slipped and there's a lot in!... I better get another... bottle of that er... Gloy hadn't I? You know, it was only fifty five at... the little shop... and in Smiths it was about seventy five.
[Arthur:] Yeah, I know.
[Evelyn:] So whether they were selling off, I don't know.... I'm making another lot of... labels. I don't know how things ke, get lost in this house.
[Arthur:] I wonder that times without
[Evelyn:] Well it... you, put things away and then forget where you put them!... Don't you?
[Arthur:] One thing or another.
[Evelyn:] I remember... it's you, cleared my things away and... I don't know where you've put them.
[Arthur:] Yeah cos with the
[Evelyn:] I can't even find... the blank labels! I've got about four sheets... that Audrey gave me! So what have you done with those? In that Welsh dresser.
[Arthur:] Oh they were superfluous to requirements I suppose.
[Evelyn:] No they weren't! You, you moved them somewhere! When you looking for things and now I don't know where they are!
[Arthur:] You didn't look in the right place did you?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]... If I don't know where the right place is, I can't very well can I?... You do faff about! I should have done about four pages by now!
[Arthur:] Yes I know you would. Well I I should hate to have been your girls in the office!
[Evelyn:] Mm. Well you can't afford to mess about like you do!
[Arthur:] Well I know that if I was at work.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh! Ooh []!
[Arthur:] I worked to my own initiative and it
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Yes I know []!
[Arthur:] it always succeeded!
[Evelyn:] Well you didn't like anybody working with you did you?
[Arthur:] I'll re-phrase that. Didn't like anybody telling me what to do.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Arthur:] Which you're very good at!... Do you
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] like being bossy-boots?
[Evelyn:] Well somebody's got to be in this house! Now drink your coffee! I'm not, shan't make any more!... Arthur, look... the whisky tipped up so there's a lo, it's nearly cold! And you've got to go easy on it now. Because if you get flu you'll want... some. Alright?
[Arthur:] There you are then, that's your shelf.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. That's alright. Yeah, that's good!
[Arthur:] But I mean... cos that was a more or less wasn't it?
[Evelyn:] Well, it was only a five minute bus ride.
[Arthur:] A bus ride away.
[Evelyn:] Mm. One more page done.
[Arthur:] That's
[Evelyn:] Two, two sides done. Golly! We still got a big pile to stick in haven't
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] we?
[Arthur:] well we should... put a lot in a box that
[Evelyn:] Stop now
[Arthur:] Where's my...
[Evelyn:] There's your coffee. Now don't go and spill it all over the... photos!
[Arthur:] Anything on is there?
[Evelyn:] Mm?
[Arthur:] Anything
[Evelyn:] Want a mince pie with it?
[Arthur:] Yes please. Any films
[Evelyn:] Well, what do you se, I don't know.
[Arthur:] to watch?
[Evelyn:] But I'll go and check. Do you want a mince pie or will it spoil your dinner?
[Arthur:] Well spoil my dinner but
[Evelyn:] Do you want one?
[Arthur:] No. no.
[Evelyn:] Biscuit?
[speaker001:] Arthur.
[Arthur:] Yeah?
[Evelyn:] Can you come and... turn the pepper mill, I can't, it... with this arm I can't turn it. About six times.
[Arthur:] What, on there?
[speaker001:] Put the year. What was it? Nineteen ninety.
[Arthur:] Was it?
[Evelyn:] Er... wasn't last year. Yes, nineteen ninety. That's the page number! Don't alter the
[Arthur:] Nineteen... fifty.
[Evelyn:] Well you want your page number now [LAUGHTER] you've altered your []
[Arthur:] See how smart that's on!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]... You silly de
[Arthur:] I I don't scratch out like you do with the
[Evelyn:] I know! But that was the page number!
[Arthur:] Well, I can still put it... number ten weren't it?
[Evelyn:] No it wasn't!
[Arthur:] Oh, we'll leave that till we... count them out.
[Evelyn:] Loo, look the other side that'll tell you!
[Arthur:] Not necessarily so.
[Evelyn:] Oh yes it will! Hundred and ten.
[Arthur:] So it was one
[Evelyn:] Page a hundred and
[Arthur:] that
[Evelyn:] ten!
[Arthur:] Right. Give me sa, another colour and differentiate it.
[Evelyn:] You could put, you could P, page a hundred and ten or sheet number hundred and ten.... I gave you that thing to put your pens on!
[Arthur:] Yes, but I didn't want to wash it.
[Evelyn:] No, that's alright.
[Arthur:] See, see what I mean about the board, it you know with the
[Evelyn:] Oh yes! That's better. I know it's thicker than the... the pages love, but it's
[Arthur:] That looks a lot better now doesn't it?
[Evelyn:] alright. That'll be alright.
[Arthur:] What were we on er just wondering how yo... do the what's her name? Then getting one of those ones.
[Evelyn:] No, don't say much with that.
[Arthur:] Well you see
[Evelyn:] Mm? Are you going to do another one before lunch?
[Arthur:] Well, I'll clear
[Evelyn:] Perhaps only
[Arthur:] it up if you like.
[Evelyn:] No! I don't want you to clear up yet. Dinner's nowhere
[Arthur:] Just see what we got.
[Evelyn:] near on, ready!
[Arthur:] But I'll surely use some better card than this.
[Evelyn:] Well you'll have to use it Arthur! Well you spent three pounds why
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] not keep it!
[Arthur:] that clears it up actually. Your... grandchildren
[Evelyn:] You put your, some the other side and that will, that will make it better. Put the rest of your... spel, er your stage set the other side.
[Arthur:] Or I might get some card and stick to it. To the back and, and then paint on that. Well anyway, shall have to go and put that up. Make that the blue ones.
[Evelyn:] What number's that?
[Arthur:] Er, one hundred and eleven.
[Evelyn:] Aren't you going to do the back there.
[Arthur:] No, cos I might... put another piece, another
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] on
[Evelyn:] Well u, only use one side of those then.
[Arthur:] That looks very. Get a bit of thicker board and er, stick it... paste it like you would the walls.
[Evelyn:] Well, stick some on and don't number them then.
[Arthur:] Yeah. See it's still thin when you got two of those.
[Evelyn:] Probably. Well is, put put some more on those and er
[Arthur:] I've just told you, I gotta wait till I get a bit of thicker board! That's the er
[Evelyn:] Well you're always buying things! You never drank this coffee! You're always buying things and then wanting
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] to buy something better! You've
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] no idea of
[Arthur:] The thing is, we ordered it... went back in the afternoon and it was cut and put on the side, I had to have it didn't I? If they'd have shown me a bit to, when we first went... I wouldn't have ordered it. That's where they fobbed us.
[Evelyn:] Now drink this coffee!
[Arthur:] And we, I think we did take some with us didn't we? Or just measurement?
[Evelyn:] No, you took the measurement. I wanted
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] you to take some with you, but you...
[Arthur:] Well I thought I thought as we're going to look at it. But you see, when it was all there cut what could I do about it? Couldn't say, ooh I'm not having it now could you?
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] order
[Evelyn:] Well I know but... didn't you go and buy some from that other shop?
[Arthur:] It was another shop I went to.
[Evelyn:] Where you bought your canvas? Didn't you buy a sheet there? You said would cut into two, where's that?
[Arthur:] No I didn't.
[Evelyn:] You did! We saw that card, when, when I bought you that canvas
[Arthur:] But that's, that's all the... all what we got is in there.
[Evelyn:] Yeah, well you look in there! Look in Vi's room! Don't you remember? You said it might make two sheets.... Well I remember buying it.... I definitely remember buying some.
[Arthur:] This, this is er, inch and half too short or else this would have done the
[Evelyn:] No, well you'll have to leave it till we get some more then
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] if you're not going to use that.
[Arthur:] Well we'll keep it here.... Is it still running?
[Evelyn:] I, I've just started it again.
[Arthur:] I see. Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] Erm
[Arthur:] Well what time do you want me to finish?
[Evelyn:] Well the dinner won't be ready till er... another hour and half.
[Arthur:] There's biggie on the roundabout.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Kids having
[Evelyn:] Now do don't you remember don't you
[Arthur:] see the kids having a look when it, you know, you watch.
[Evelyn:] Measure it, get the right size and I'll put in my handbag.
[Arthur:] No, we'll go together then.
[Evelyn:] I know, but I'll put in my handbag, then we're in town I've got it... and you won't
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] we shall have it shan't we? So measure and give it to me so, so we've got it.... Okay? I know we looked at some thicker board in there didn't we? Dominoes.
[Arthur:] Mhm.
[Evelyn:] I thought we bought one to try.
[Arthur:] Well you said you wo ordered one for another place.
[Evelyn:] I know, but... we know they've got it don't we?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I think it came out a bit more expensive that order, still if it's what you want you've got to have it haven't you?
[Arthur:] Well jus er you see... already cut it, therefore it had gone. If he'd showed us some we wouldn't have even had it cut.
[Evelyn:] No. Well, that that... that shop had got so got some thicker board, I remember, and you said the size we'd got would cut about two.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Perhaps you didn't buy one, perhaps we just looked at it.
[Arthur:] Just looked at it, cos we got that this time.
[Evelyn:] Well, to check the size. Well,meas, measure it and put it down so
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Okay?
[Arthur:] Them all.
[Evelyn:] Oh alright. Well I was just going to switch that off.
[Arthur:] Well, you could have asked me couldn't you?
[Evelyn:] Thought he'd gone.
[Arthur:] You don't want this milk thing here?
[Evelyn:] Oh no.... I could keep his ad, his telephone number in case we want to order
[Arthur:] Er,?
[Evelyn:] if I miss him
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] in case I miss him, and I want to order cream any time. Yeah, throw, throw away... the things you don't want. I'll keep it in this... tin in this draw. Are you listening?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] In case I forget where I've put it. But I don't suppose you will remember!
[Arthur:] Here's that thing, here's your pu stamps.
[Evelyn:] There's my sta... labels!
[Arthur:] Told you I'd seen them.
[Evelyn:] all among your rubbish!
[Arthur:] Told you I'd seen them.
[Evelyn:] I just, I've only just this minute... written another
[Arthur:] Well you
[Evelyn:] lot.
[Arthur:] you won't do it again will you?
[Evelyn:] Still, I'm going to make some more of the marmalade.
[Arthur:] Shouldn't be among my paintings then!
[Evelyn:] You put it there!
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] I told you I'd left them handy.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Too handy!
[Evelyn:] Well, look you could put these pens in the they'd go in better! Would they go in better in another little
[Arthur:] That's alright they'll just lay in the top.
[Evelyn:] well they don't go in.
[Arthur:] Well that'll do for a minute so I can use it.
[Evelyn:] I mean, it's overflowing.
[Arthur:] .
[Evelyn:] Ah! What? Do you want that bit of wood?
[Arthur:] I gotta pack in something or, you know, I
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] was
[Evelyn:] Well shall I put it in the rubbish?
[Arthur:] Yeah. Yeah. You know when I brought my board in, I probably had that to prop it up while er
[Evelyn:] Let's get rid of some... some rubbish. Give me things you
[Arthur:] I'll
[Evelyn:] don't want in here.
[Arthur:] No I've done my, save the
[Evelyn:] The dustbin men won't co co, don't... call till Tuesday so you haven't got to put it out today. Can you remember?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Tomorrow... morning.... Do you want a Martini or a sherry now? Or wait a bit?
[Arthur:] I'll wait for a bit, you know.
[Evelyn:] Is that rubbish there? Give it to me.
[Arthur:] That
[Evelyn:] Tho
[Arthur:] er
[Evelyn:] no those... bits there!
[Arthur:] Well these are, yeah.
[Evelyn:] Give it to me.... Hey! This is twenty eight years ago!
[Arthur:] Yep.
[Evelyn:] Sixty four.
[Arthur:] Do you want your room like that?
[Evelyn:] No. Don't like it.
[Arthur:] Look at that for a stage... I was gonna do that
[Evelyn:] on the stage.
[Arthur:] Yo, we took your curtains off the... front room.
[Evelyn:] Oh were you!... You got a lot of those in the brass box
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] upstairs, you better put them altogether.
[Arthur:] Yeah I will do.
[Evelyn:] Have you sorted all that fire out?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] You could put them in the
[Arthur:] Yeah, there's rubbish.
[Evelyn:] in the set. Is that rubbish?
[Arthur:] See I save these bits, but er... never gonna use them.
[Evelyn:] Did you get the size? No you didn't. You don't want them now do you?
[Arthur:] ... these were for our spot, look!
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Oh yeah! That's like mine's, front room.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Oh look! This is it.
[Evelyn:] The old marble fire.
[Arthur:] That's it. That was with.
[Evelyn:] Well I mean, ours ours was. Go on, give that to me.... What's that?
[Arthur:] What? Slides. Don't want it now do we?
[Evelyn:] Is that the old one? Mm?... About time we got rid of some of this! Some of.... Now put all this... the photographs together!
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] Do you want a box for them?
[Arthur:] [sighing] Oh er [], well I'll take them all in the brass box.
[Evelyn:] Put them there, there's room in there. What about his letter?
[Arthur:] That's gotta go in the
[Evelyn:] Well put that with your snaps then if you're going to
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] put that in the album. Right there, well I'll put it there.
[Arthur:] Mm. Leave those there I'll take them up with me.
[Evelyn:] What are these odd ones here?
[Arthur:] What are they?
[Evelyn:] Ah?
[Arthur:] Gotta go in there.
[Evelyn:] Well you can put some of those pens in here... rather than
[Arthur:] Well, that lid on there can it be used though?
[Evelyn:] It's not a lid! Oh is that lid? I didn't, I thought it was overflowing.
[Arthur:] But it's also if... you got, if you ain't
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] got one on the end it keeps the dirt off. Er... that can go on there then can't it?
[Evelyn:] Well did they take the nice empty box?
[Arthur:] Oh! There's the one I were looking for. Put that on there.
[Evelyn:] Won't you...
[Arthur:] That's er, the one I remember play, remember.
[Evelyn:] They're, they're old negatives, you don't want those do you?
[Arthur:] No, but you, didn't have all the others up. I mean er
[Evelyn:] Well you never wanted to have anything of mine. Do you want that? They're two empty boxes.
[Arthur:] That's going in the album.
[Evelyn:] Yes, well put that with the others over there.
[Arthur:] Er, you know where you're sitting?
[Evelyn:] Mhm.
[Arthur:] You know you
[Evelyn:] Yes, that er
[Arthur:] that's the, under the.
[Evelyn:] on the set. Yes, I remember. That's the group. They're are two empty boxes there.
[Arthur:] They can go in the garage can't they? Er
[Evelyn:] No, I shouldn't put them in the garage they'll get damp there.
[Arthur:] Oh well... I er, I shall leave them there.
[Evelyn:] Well put them in with them. Or take them upstairs till you're ready to use them.... Some
[Arthur:] Do you want that painted?
[Evelyn:] Well that was the idea. You wanted to paint it sometime didn't you?
[Arthur:] Yeah. That's right. And yo, and that's all on.
[Evelyn:] Well perhaps next week. Till we get the thicker card you could start the painting.
[Arthur:] After I've finished one I bet there's another and tha, and then there's that.
[Evelyn:] Well that's alright.
[Arthur:] Didn't want, er, didn't want no more do we? Still... we're still way in but [tape breaks] That's it that on telly. And there where you were running al, along with we were running along the chimney with burning la, to warm us hands.
[Evelyn:] I've just found that under the stairs.
[Arthur:] Yeah, I want that in the
[Evelyn:] Yes!
[Arthur:] with the.
[Evelyn:] Well you'll be looking for it in a bit won't you?
[Arthur:] I often do.
[Evelyn:] You never, where did you find that in the end?
[Arthur:] Back of that chair.
[Evelyn:] You do put
[Arthur:] But surely
[Evelyn:] you do put things in a funny
[Arthur:] I just found it.
[Evelyn:] place! Do you know I've
[Arthur:] Yeah but co
[Evelyn:] emptied this cupboard looking for it!
[Arthur:] I find them eventually.
[Evelyn:] Mm.... You got six library books there did you know?
[Arthur:] Better take them all back then.
[Evelyn:] Well you haven't read them yet have you?
[Arthur:] Well if you want them out the way then take them back.
[Evelyn:] I don't want them out of the way, I'm just saying how many you've got!
[Arthur:] They never rung any more about that one they said you
[Evelyn:] No!
[Arthur:] They must have found it.
[Evelyn:] I reckon
[Arthur:] Whoever took it out of there I suppose
[Evelyn:] they booked it in for you... and somebody said... this is reserved and they forgot to take it off your
[Arthur:] Off of er
[Evelyn:] red
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] one. Anyway, we know we pushed it through the... you know
[Arthur:] I'll have to write to them.
[Evelyn:] in through the box don't we? Here comes. It's a light blue car that isn't it?
[Arthur:] Oh yeah!
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Well
[Arthur:] puts, puts it on
[Evelyn:] mid-blue.
[Arthur:] Puts it on the drive now, it's er
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] so perhaps he feel it.
[Evelyn:] In a way. But he he'll sa
[Arthur:] It'll be alright.
[Evelyn:] he'll the say the weight knocks our wall down.
[Arthur:] Ah but then aga, but then again if you don't lean against it... he says
[Evelyn:] I reckon he's cracking up!
[Arthur:] Another thing against it if... he'll get three ca, he'll have wo, his on the drive and he'll be able to park two cars on ours.
[Evelyn:] Yes. Yeah.
[Arthur:] Still, and as they only do it every Good Friday it don't.
[Evelyn:] Erm
[Arthur:] They've buffed their wheels on again.
[Evelyn:] Well some, well it always is
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] they're always keen doing... What's on this afternoon?
[Arthur:] Two, two fifteen... King of the Wind. Buffalo Bill's on at quarter past twelve.
[Evelyn:] No, well we saw that didn't we? It wasn't what you thought it was.
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] Well, what you going to have... whisky and dry ginger or a martini, or sherry?
[Arthur:] ... on a plate.
[Evelyn:] Well go and fetch it. Walk
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] across and get it. If you hadn't have bought those library books we could have carried some home the other day!
[Arthur:] Well it ain't as good a.
[Evelyn:] I know.
[Arthur:] It's a bit thirsty.
[Evelyn:] Well you don't know anyway do you?
[Arthur:] Anyway, let's er
[Evelyn:] Oh he's gone off with her!
[Arthur:] Oh, well they're going around now. Thank them for the
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] To show her the car []!
[Arthur:] thank them for the contributions.
[Evelyn:] Er, now, what are you going to have to drink?
[Arthur:] Well you, do you think so?
[Evelyn:] No! Sherry, Martini, or whisky?
[Arthur:] Martini.
[Evelyn:] That's all we've got. The vodka's all gone.
[Arthur:] Evelyn! Evelyn!... Evelyn!
[Evelyn:] I forgot to do the parsnips when I did the potatoes, but I think they'll be
[Arthur:] Yeah, that's alright then.
[Evelyn:] I've done some now, I think they'll be ready.
[Arthur:] Oh you done some?
[Evelyn:] What's on?
[Arthur:] Twelve o'clock.
[Evelyn:] No, we don't want anything till about
[Arthur:] Here it is!
[Evelyn:] two.
[Arthur:] Er, [reading newspaper] two fifty, Spain, Spain! International cuisine [].
[Evelyn:] Cuisine!
[Arthur:] Cu cu cuisine. And then there's a
[Evelyn:] No I don't want Spain. We don't like Spain!
[Arthur:] Er, Those Were the Days somewhere, I can't pi pick it up now.
[Evelyn:] Usually four thirty Those Were the Days.
[Arthur:] Oh yes! Sky News.
[Evelyn:] On Sky News.
[Arthur:] Those Were the Days, four thirty.
[Evelyn:] Oh we'll have that.
[Arthur:] Oh! Unless you wanna have a look at that, [reading newspaper] [reading] eleven thirty [], that's now... [reading] Holiday Destinations.
[Evelyn:] It's gone now.
[Arthur:] Plan your holiday for the new year [].
[Evelyn:] Well, put it on and I'll
[Arthur:] It's on now.
[Evelyn:] Yes, well put it
[Arthur:] Twelve thirty to er
[Evelyn:] Well it's not, it's not twelve
[Arthur:] er
[Evelyn:] yet!
[Arthur:] No. Eleven thirty to twelve thirty.
[Evelyn:] Well put it on then!
[Arthur:] Well yo aren't you interested then?
[Evelyn:] Well I've got to go in the kitchen
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] and get this! I shall be back in a minute.
[Arthur:] You don't have to go in there and get
[Evelyn:] By the time you've er
[Arthur:] Anyway these
[Evelyn:] What is it on?
[Arthur:] these plugs have been left on again.
[Evelyn:] Well I don't know! You do it, everything! Is it on Sky or is it
[Arthur:] You er, you were the last up.
[Evelyn:] on the card?
[Arthur:] You were last up weren't you?
[Evelyn:] No I wasn't! Is it on Sky or is it
[Arthur:] Sky.
[Evelyn:] on a card? Is it on the card?
[Arthur:] Sky.
[Evelyn:] But what number Sky?
[speaker001:] I think er... I think er... we've seen that before.
[Arthur:] Yeah, I thi, yeah.
[Evelyn:] It's old er... oh! You didn't show it on that did you?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] You know if you go out front
[Arthur:] Show it up if people had done all of it with it, but now it doesn't look in with it yet.
[Evelyn:] No. Arthur.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Dead head the... pansies.
[Arthur:] Dead head them?
[Evelyn:] Yes! Well lo lo look! A lot of the want dead
[Arthur:] Ah!
[Evelyn:] heading, and if
[Arthur:] I'll do
[Evelyn:] go out the front
[Arthur:] I'll do that.
[Evelyn:] just take them off, else the... it'll so, they'll stop flowering.... We only seem to have one in the erm... basket. Don't know whether the others have died, but they a there only seems to be one.
[Arthur:] Trouble is, down at the dra, they're dry we haven't been watering them for
[Evelyn:] I've been watering them!
[Arthur:] Yeah?
[Evelyn:] In fact, I'm just going to water
[Arthur:] But
[Evelyn:] it now!
[Arthur:] cold weather they've froze the roots.
[Evelyn:] Oh well there's one with lo two lovely flowers on but I can't see any on the, any of the other plants. [cough]... Is there anything on this afternoon?
[Arthur:] Four thirty, er, Those Were the
[Evelyn:] Ah! That's on the radio. Oh yes, but
[Arthur:] Those Were the Days. Sky.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Ah, I mean a film?
[Arthur:] Nothing particular. Just seeing what's on the... oh that er... Argentine thing.
[Evelyn:] I told you! I think one's Wednesday... and Churchill Thursday. Write it down. You look, I think it's... or Monday, something on Monday night. There's something on Monday, Wednesday and Thursday I looked at... thought we might see.
[Arthur:] Well, I thought that Argentine
[Evelyn:] In the evening.
[Arthur:] thing would come on.
[Evelyn:] Yes it is. I I told you when it was yesterday but you didn't remember! You don't remember! Now I don't!... At night, it's at night.
[speaker001:] No wonder they're expensive! Take about... over twelve months to... you know, to sort of come to even leaf... leaves.
[Arthur:] Yes, but we've had several frosty weeks ain't we?
[Evelyn:] I know, but the... on the kitchen window sill, I take them off at night. Should be alright. Well they are alright. But, the old ones that Tom gave me originally... they've not flowered now for about... three months... yet they're not dead.
[Arthur:] I've been figuring out S, A and B,wha why... you ha, you have to start, you know, then I realise it's... but you gotta put it in the way it's ready to er... record haven't
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] you?
[Evelyn:] Is it opposite to the one we've got
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] there?
[Arthur:] It's not, it's not on the
[Evelyn:] Oh well that's what I said, it was no use, bothering there's no use bothering to... how ours worked... you've got to sort of know how this one works.
[Arthur:] Well it's nothing to do with the working really,ma, it's the fact that they... with A facing you... the spool is ready to run.
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] And then, put it the other way i if there were nothing that side you'd have to put it on B because that's ready to run.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] It depends on which side you start you see.
[Evelyn:] Well they say always start on A don't they?
[Arthur:] Oh! Well I mean it's nothing to do with the
[Evelyn:] I mean you are now
[Arthur:] mechanism of it, so
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] the fact whether, one side is full, the spool you're going to wind on is right for recording.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Ah, and like
[Evelyn:] Well we always do ours on A for a start don't we?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] You do don't you? I don't know, I never do ours.... Anyway, are you very hungry?
[Arthur:] Mm. Not hungry at all really, I
[Evelyn:] Well you should be!
[Arthur:] such a big breakfast.
[Evelyn:] You didn't have a big breakfast today! You only had a boiled egg and... flakes.
[Arthur:] Well, you know what my landlady said... if you want something substantial I'll boil you and egg.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Oh well []! This was about forty years ago!
[Arthur:] They we, they were doing three days a week... in the town.
[Evelyn:] Times were hard then.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And pe, people did take in lodgers didn't they?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] To make ends meet. Keeps everybody together.
[Arthur:] That's, that's that's what Kath thought.
[Evelyn:] No!
[Arthur:] We were having to make ends meet.
[Evelyn:] What have you got to worry about?
[Arthur:] Well I'm saying what Kath's
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] worrying about, not what I'm worrying about!
[Evelyn:] Kath's not worrying about us, she knows we've got plenty.
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] Or efficient.
[Arthur:] Why did she say that?
[Evelyn:] It was a joke!
[Arthur:] Oh. She had the
[Evelyn:] Like you joke! You joke and yet, you can't take a joke!
[Arthur:] Yes, but Kath's jokes have a sharp cutting edge
[Evelyn:] No they haven't
[Arthur:] to them.
[Evelyn:] No they haven't! You
[Arthur:] My jokes are soft and er
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh []! They're not! Your prejudiced you are!... And I have, I think I made mine a bit strong!... I tell you, if I have a drink, when I have a drink, a short in the morning... it goes to my head, it's... not.
[Arthur:] There used to be a cafe, a cute;... the er... you used to go in and have a cup of tea and that... and yo, he started selling jam, pots of jam with... they had him in court, it was er... it had fell off a lorry and he was selling it a bit cheap... and er... he were telling us about it. I says, what th, he said, he said, well I've... I told the judge everybody's got two jobs, he says... he said to the judge, you've got two jobs. Course he were right weren't he!
[Evelyn:] Why? How had he got two jobs?
[Arthur:] Well they wanted to know why... as he was just running a cafe, a cute; why he was selling jams.
[Evelyn:] Oh I see.
[Arthur:] Of course, where did he get the jam from? It fell off the lorry.... I thought they'd find them sixty odd. About er, redecorated Mrs house. Put
[Evelyn:] Mm mm.
[Arthur:] chair rail up and encruster. It wouldn't stick. Saturday afternoon, I ought to have been at home... it was three o'clock and I should have been at er, in Leicester then. There I was trying to get the encruster to stick. A and then there were no trains. I got home about nine at night. Things I'll do for people!... Oh it was useless!
[Evelyn:] You'll have to start doing a few jobs for me next week.
[Arthur:] She did some good er
[Evelyn:] She looked after
[Arthur:] things.
[Evelyn:] you well.
[Arthur:] I were there about eight years ago.
[Evelyn:] No. How long will that cupboard door take? I've got... I've only got one door on that cupboard. That sliding door.
[Arthur:] Oh, the sliding door! Oh that just wants fitting that's all.
[Evelyn:] I know that! One side's open to the
[Arthur:] Atmosphere. Well, gotta be easy one hand you get the pots in.
[Evelyn:] No, well I li I like the two on.
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] I like the two on to cover i things up, the... jams one side and the pots the other.... I think when we go in town I'll get another... lot of seville oranges... make another lot. Well I want some jars thou, though before I can. So we've got to go to Maggie's or Kath's and get some.
[Arthur:] Is Madge and Tom clear of fu, flu?
[Evelyn:] Well Tom said they were nearly. Lot better, but not quite.
[Arthur:] Lo, mm. Did they go to the
[Evelyn:] Now Kath is
[Arthur:] doctor?
[Evelyn:] No. Kath... Kath did for Vince, she got some anti-biotics for Vince. She had to send for him New Year's Day... for Vince!
[Arthur:] Mm. What a big chap
[Evelyn:] Cos
[Arthur:] like him?
[Evelyn:] Yeah! Oh he's always at the doctors! I re, Madge reckons he's... he's about as... hypochondriac [LAUGHTER] as Kath []!
[Arthur:] Oh! [clears throat] Bigger [clears throat] the bigger
[Evelyn:] Well Kath, Kath encourages him... to be like that
[Arthur:] The bigger they are, the harder they fall don't they?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Well no, he has got a bad throat an... you know, he had a little lump in his throat, I think they thought it was cancer or something or... a little growth, but you often get that in the throat.
[Arthur:] Mhm. Well my only deficiency in a temper.
[Evelyn:] Well, you can say that again!... And patience! Some things you can... spend hours on, and then others you can't spend... two seconds! Like this!
[Arthur:] It depends whether I'm interested [LAUGHTER] or not [].
[Evelyn:] Well, you were interested enough in that weren't you? Originally. And then you get fed up.
[Arthur:] I reckon you're always peering over my shoulder!
[Evelyn:] No I'm not! You tell me to. You do. You say wait! Check that I'm alright and then when I do or suggest you... you get the hump. You don't like me to know more than you. Do you?
[Arthur:] Never studied the question really.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] You have []! I'm going to baste the chicken anyway.
[Arthur:] Do you want this stopping now?
[Evelyn:] No you can leave it on.
[Arthur:] Well you're going out!
[Evelyn:] [whispering] I know, but then they that's
[Arthur:] Not gonna talk to myself!
[Evelyn:] why they give you ten so that you know, you get intervals, between, because the girls have got to sort of tap all the words in []
[Arthur:] Yeah, yeah well er thirty two minutes of... hush hush
[Evelyn:] Well, I'm coming back
[Arthur:] Sing a song
[Evelyn:] anyway.
[Arthur:] Shall I sing a song?
[Evelyn:] No! You shouldn't do anything. Do you want any, another drink or or
[Arthur:] Ooh yes! Keep them coming!
[Evelyn:] No, I'm not.
[Arthur:] Keep coming.
[Evelyn:] Who bought what?
[Arthur:] The glass house at the? Did he buy it or did the agents?
[Evelyn:] Well, where is the glass house? Is that it, that one that I put
[Arthur:] Up the
[Evelyn:] last year!
[Arthur:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Evelyn:] That, that's over the fence, er, the back, it's in Summerleigh that is.
[Arthur:] What do you mean summer? What you on about?
[Evelyn:] No, it it's not, it's not their house,i... you look
[Arthur:] It's just shelters.
[Evelyn:] Yes, but tho those glass houses are over the fence the other side in Summerleigh. They're
[Arthur:] But
[Evelyn:] not on the, out of these
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] gardens.
[Arthur:] That, you see that privet, that's not the end of his garden because it's foreshortened.
[Evelyn:] Well we are
[Arthur:] The only
[Evelyn:] foreshortened
[Arthur:] All that lot?
[Evelyn:] further down, yes!
[Arthur:] No, they're not!
[Evelyn:] They are!
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] Cos, didn't we say our te, our gardens are long to... er... to have fields. But when it comes to
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] the others further down
[Arthur:] So it's, this is our garden
[Evelyn:] they're shortened.
[Arthur:] that's shelters there.
[Evelyn:] Yes. Well that's a glass
[Arthur:] And then the
[Evelyn:] house, if you look
[Arthur:] Aye, he's got one. I see what
[Evelyn:] It's
[Arthur:] you mean.
[Evelyn:] it's that er
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] corner house on that road down there.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Let's have a look again, I've got my glasses on now.... Yes, it was taken about July that was, must have been. Because I remember... when Tom was on holiday... tha that ground was all... dry wasn't it?
[Arthur:] Mm. Well it is now.
[Evelyn:] Silly!
[Arthur:] Er, the baskets not ready. That er
[Evelyn:] Yes it's go, that's the begonias in the basket.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And they're the begonias on the front patch.
[Arthur:] Mm. And there's the wheelie bin just inside that.
[Evelyn:] Mm. It must have been, probably had them taken on a Monday then.
[Arthur:] Mm mm. I'll get it ready to... go out at
[Evelyn:] Either go out or go in.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And that... that's his er, that's his garage
[Arthur:] It's his garage.
[Evelyn:] and that little bit is that his
[Arthur:] Yeah. And tha and that's
[Evelyn:] extension?
[Arthur:] When we were talking to the builders tha he were putting that in.
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Er da, almost a about to.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Yeah. Two pipes, yeah.
[Arthur:] He practically did that.
[Evelyn:] No, but that's their little extension isn't
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] it? On there.
[Arthur:] Mm. To the, oh no that's the.
[Evelyn:] Oh I se a lot, oh
[Arthur:] In the front.
[Evelyn:] the extension must be
[Arthur:] Yeah, there.
[Evelyn:] there and will become
[Arthur:] Yeah, that's that bit
[Evelyn:] Oh yes! That's what I told you, yes.
[Arthur:] Oh yeah, he used to climb on that, to get on the garage to er, shout
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] down
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] at your
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Arthur:] This one's more dry than that
[Evelyn:] Well, the top one never was as good as the bottom one.
[Arthur:] Well and that's all but
[Evelyn:] Well you never bother with that so much
[Arthur:] and that and that
[Evelyn:] do you?
[Arthur:] Oh they've still got building that, look at the rumble, rubble.
[Evelyn:] Yes, they haven't clipped down on the front.
[Arthur:] I told you
[Evelyn:] They just finished building that even
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] must have been, what, July when it was
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And they're all the new slabs in the pavement, the men came and putting new slabs in.
[Arthur:] Well they went on about our spots then won't they?
[Evelyn:] Yeah! Well... it never was last year's, there was no
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] hosepipe ban... at all, we keep saying that so... I don't know what people are on about! You know, ee, that's just a new
[Arthur:] New, new thing like. I like it very much those hou
[Evelyn:] Yeah! I think Jackie and Tom they'd... they did.
[Arthur:] I mean er... if er, anybody ever takes this over when I'm gone and you sell it
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] er, you co you could sell this with the house.
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] Of course.
[Evelyn:] Oh yes!
[Arthur:] At times we don't have it.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Or er, keep it yourself.
[Evelyn:] You better do something about his hook, bend it round else
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I'm sure it's going to come off one day.
[Arthur:] Well er, I'll see to it one day.
[Evelyn:] Ah! I don't mean one day.... Oh I better go and see if there's any erm... if my Christmas pudding wants er... filling up.... We're on side B now aren't we?
[Arthur:] Mm mm.
[Evelyn:] So, it's the twelfth
[Arthur:] That's side A int it?
[Evelyn:] No! We're on the second side of this.
[Arthur:] Oh yes, we turned it round.
[Evelyn:] And what time did we start recording? About twelve noon wasn't it?... I better put er... Well Kath and Frank won't be coming, I told you didn't I?
[Arthur:] Yeah. What, cos they got er
[Evelyn:] Well, just getting over it. Vince is, and Kath thinks she might be
[Arthur:] Snuffley.
[Evelyn:] starting it or, she's got a bad cough. So... we shan't be able to have... anybody else in today... to
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] be on the tape.
[Arthur:] Pity about that isn't it? Cos they could have come up and looked at that.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Oh well. Do you want that filling up?
[Arthur:] Mm. Er
[Evelyn:] Do you want it filling up?
[Arthur:] Yes, you might
[Evelyn:] The same?
[Arthur:] as well. Might as well.
[Evelyn:] Do you want lemonade in it?
[Arthur:] Ju exac
[Evelyn:] Or tonic water?
[Arthur:] exactly as before.
[Evelyn:] Lemonade or tonic water?
[Arthur:] Neither more, neither less. No differentiation.
[Evelyn:] Do you want tonic water or lemonade in it?
[Arthur:] Tonic water. It might do something for me.
[Evelyn:] But you've not had your cod liver oil today! Now come and get it!
[Arthur:] That'll do even more.
[Evelyn:] Co, no come and have that cod liver oil.
[Arthur:] Okay! I'll do that.
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Leave it on. Is it on []?
[Arthur:] [whispering] Yeah [].
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Keep it on when we go out []
[Arthur:] It's wasting the battery.
[Evelyn:] No it's not!
[speaker001:] Are we taking them books back?
[Evelyn:] Only when you're... ready or, they're not due back yet.
[Arthur:] Only I can't get a chance to... study in the meantime.
[Evelyn:] Course you can! Drink up!
[Arthur:] By the way, the cod liver oil's finished.
[Evelyn:] Finished?
[Arthur:] Just drank the last, er, there might be a... shade
[Evelyn:] Mm mm!
[Arthur:] in.
[Evelyn:] I didn't think you'd had much of it.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] That'll take the taste of it off, if you keep drinking that. What book's that?
[Arthur:] Machine and power tools, how to use them.
[Evelyn:] Is that the one you had out before?
[Arthur:] Ah? Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Is it?
[Arthur:] What? No, I had it last week, this
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] Friday you
[Evelyn:] I, I know you had that one but I thought I've seen... wo, a similar one the other week.
[Arthur:] They're all much alike.
[Evelyn:] Oh it's not the same one?
[Arthur:] I get that one.
[Evelyn:] Anyway, what... what do you want with those now?
[Arthur:] Leave it for the beneficiaries.
[Evelyn:] At your age.... Have you seen all the seagulls?
[Arthur:] Yeah. I've seen them before.
[Evelyn:] Well they're all circling over the roof.... Ah, I don't know what they have to eat.
[Arthur:] Well it's dove dirt I think.
[Evelyn:] You look!
[Arthur:] Well tha, the only thing I, when I walk across the green, the only thing I see is dove dirt. It might be
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] perhaps it's Kitty Cat... twice removed!
[Evelyn:] You have a look at them! Look at them!
[Arthur:] Mm. I can see them through the reflection.
[Evelyn:] Dunno why they're circling round there.
[Arthur:] If I see one drop... th they they circle and if one drops they go down too.
[Evelyn:] They'll be on our lawn next!
[Arthur:] Lovely machines they got out now! Look, that's a planer.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] French.
[Evelyn:] Well they're not for amateurs are they?
[Arthur:] No, but I mean they do it the easy way the
[Evelyn:] Oh yeah!
[Arthur:] professionals. They don't do it the hard way.
[Evelyn:] I like the tonic water... as good as wi, ah, with the Martini!... What do you think? Do you think it's better than lemonade?
[Arthur:] Well it's nice!
[Evelyn:] Tonic?
[Arthur:] Very nice! I like it!
[Evelyn:] I can't stand the sweet... saccharin in the lemonade!... Somebody's thumping!
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Can you hear them?
[Arthur:] Breaking bits of concrete.
[Evelyn:] Dunno. Perhaps they're putting the... the fence back in. It blew down in the gale! Sounds a bit like that.
[Arthur:] You know that... wheel on, last made with a band of emery on
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] around the things... look, you see... if you're doing a curve... he's got electric drill with a round bobbin in, but mine's on a shaft, the bit, for when... and also, there's my sander disc.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Supposed to push that up to it... and yo, your dead square and clean. Well when you saw it without that... after you've sawn it you've gotta
[Evelyn:] Gotta sa
[Arthur:] square it off and file it and... that does it in seconds! So you just put it on your... in that steel table I made
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] push it straight through it to... till it's done.
[Evelyn:] You'll have to try to do it.
[Arthur:] And er
[Evelyn:] Well, I think I'll go and put the potatoes on.
[Arthur:] I suppose you should... you sho, push it with a stick... by the saw so you don't get your fingers in.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Right! I'll go and baste the chicken and put the potatoes on I think.
[speaker001:] I just switch this on.... Anyway, button's not down.
[Arthur:] It is.... What made you think it wasn't?
[Evelyn:] I thought I saw it
[Arthur:] Well it's going round. The
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] lights on.
[Evelyn:] Well that's alright then. Well mo, not much on the news was there?
[Arthur:] Not really.
[Evelyn:] Still all these
[Arthur:] Election.
[Evelyn:] poli... electioneering. Get fed up with it!
[Arthur:] And all of them can only do... just carry on, the money's not there, it's not there is it?
[Evelyn:] Custard's a bit hot.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] What do you think to my pudding?
[Arthur:] Very nice! Up to scratch.... It's a refreshing change int it,plu plum puddings?
[Evelyn:] Christmas puddings.
[Arthur:] Well...
[Evelyn:] No, plum, I know they used to call it plum pudding!
[Arthur:] Had it have been yesterday it was plum puddings cos they
[Evelyn:] I know!
[Arthur:] put plums in.
[Evelyn:] Well they don't... now do they?
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] I gave one to Jackie and not heard whether she's had it or not.
[Arthur:] No.... Well she wouldn't tell you if she had would she, really? Unless you ask.
[Evelyn:] Well, it's only polite to say whether... if you
[Arthur:] Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] give anybody anything er, to
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] eat,i if they liked it or not isn't it? Well probably not, with not, having the flu.
[Arthur:] Well I'd tell you. Did she have the flu then? Mm?
[Evelyn:] Well, she wasn't well, I don't know whether it was flu or
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Don't you remember she spent Boxing Day in bed!
[Arthur:] Oh yeah! Well Madge did didn't she?
[Evelyn:] And the children didn't come so
[Arthur:] Madge did.
[Evelyn:] She we, well she looked ill I thought.
[Arthur:] Mm.... Well she works hard doesn't she?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Dashing about.... Did Joan get any, er or is she sta... erm... is she, is she sure to remain in a constant, neither better nor worse?
[Evelyn:] Well, I think some days she's better than... others, but... on the whole she's not making much progress. I don't think she will.... I mean
[Arthur:] But
[Evelyn:] it's always been
[Arthur:] in other words Peter's sort of... stuck with it isn't he?
[Evelyn:] Landed! I mean, she's always been... that way... nervous and
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] right from... when she was first married.
[Arthur:] Well, I was always the nervous type.
[Evelyn:] You're still neurotic in some things!
[Arthur:] Being a nervous type.
[Evelyn:] Ooh! I wouldn't say nervous type. Just a bit
[Arthur:] What would you say?
[Evelyn:] Neurotic... over certain things.
[Arthur:] Why wouldn't you say I was a nervous type?
[Evelyn:] Well, not normally.
[Arthur:] Er, what conclusion has it come from?
[Evelyn:] Well, not in the same way Joan is.... But you get het up over... silly things!
[Arthur:] What do I do with the big things? Deal with them as they come up?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] I don't know []!
[Arthur:] Deal with it as it comes on.... How's Muriel then? What's she
[Evelyn:] Well, she's just coping, just dragging her arms int she?
[Arthur:] Can't see what she sees in her cousins though can you? All
[Evelyn:] Well they always did! I mean, I can remember when she worked with me, every Christmas... they changed... one time they came to Leicester
[Arthur:] Mhm.
[Evelyn:] and the next year they went to Loughborough... with their cousins. And so, I suppose, they're keeping it up now.
[Arthur:] I wouldn't know my cousins fir christian names... now!
[Evelyn:] You know Edna!
[Arthur:] Oh well that's yo
[Evelyn:] Ed and Meg.
[Arthur:] Ah but that's er, Vi's side isn't it?
[Evelyn:] Well, it's the same
[Arthur:] Well I mean... Lawrence
[Evelyn:] , yes well, it's cousin isn't it?
[Arthur:] Oh yeah!
[Evelyn:] And I expect all the other's are dead!... Your mam was one of the youngest wasn't she?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Well then!
[Arthur:] The eldest.
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] It's a rum do life int it? You're born, you suffer, and you die!
[Evelyn:] You suffer? I don't, not notice you suffering much in life!... It's a piece of cake for you! Somebody to wait on you! Hand and foot. And by the way, you've got your old trousers on did you know?
[Arthur:] Oh! Have I? Oh!
[Evelyn:] Yes you have!... Have you got rid of the cod liver oil taste yet?
[Arthur:] Oh that goes immediately. with that.
[Evelyn:] Ooh! Don't know how you could drink it!
[Arthur:] It's yo, well if you hold your breath... you... you sort of don't... I found out you don't... get the fla,yo fla, you can't taste it, you sort of clench yourself and you don't taste. That's quite easy to perform.
[Evelyn:] Shall I get you another bottle?
[Arthur:] Might as well. It might do something for me.
[Evelyn:] Try the capsules.
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] I can't take many. I'll have some in the then stop.
[Arthur:] Oh, I could take them. We used to take handful at Powerjets but they said
[Evelyn:] You used to repeat
[Arthur:] it used to be known as it was a... war do, war factory but... you cut them open it were nearly all casing. They were... er little
[Evelyn:] Well I suppose it was concentrated.
[Arthur:] Yeah. But ca,pe, I drink it out the bottle and that's the best. Pour it in a glass and look at it, or a spoon but... pour it out the bottle, hold your breath and Bob's your uncle! It's gone down!... People talk about they can't take it, that's poppycock!
[Evelyn:] Well I couldn't. Can't even take the capsules. Th, they stick on me half way down.... Oh it's drying up. I think it must be turning cold. Do, you feel cold don't you?
[Arthur:] I did do in the front, er, yes.
[Evelyn:] Yeah, but you got the radiator on and the gas fire! Yo, well you've still the gas fire as well in here!... Hadn't you better... sit in your chair for ten minutes before clear up the lunch.
[Arthur:] Well it's still winter isn't it?
[Evelyn:] Got worse if anything. February's always the worst month.
[Arthur:] You reckon?
[Evelyn:] Oh it is! Everybody always says that. Now sit in that chair
[Arthur:] Finish?
[Evelyn:] No. Leave it for a minute or two.
[Arthur:] I'm just taking them out into
[Evelyn:] Leave
[Arthur:] don't you?
[Evelyn:] No. Leave the pots and... everything. Arthur I'm hot in here! I'll wash these green mats. These, the other green mats. So, don't go looking for them because... they're in the wash.
[Arthur:] How do you feel after last night?
[Evelyn:] What, the late night?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I'm alright.
[Arthur:] I wonder what possessed you?
[Evelyn:] I've not had my bandage on today.
[Arthur:] I say, I wonder what possessed you?
[Evelyn:] Oh! I know!
[Arthur:] That's a bug.
[Evelyn:] It's
[Arthur:] I never went though did you?
[Evelyn:] No. No, I was dreaming, I told you earlier I
[Arthur:] Oh! Well it's what you want with your arm int it?
[Evelyn:] Course not. It's still
[Arthur:] Rest and more rest.
[Evelyn:] No! I've got to use it they say.
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] Or try to use it, but it's still
[Arthur:] You won't be able to
[Evelyn:] I still can't
[Arthur:] you won't be able to keep hurting it though, eh?
[Evelyn:] No. I still can't carry... anything heavy in it.... But still
[Arthur:] Will it be always like that then?
[Evelyn:] Oh no! It should go back.
[Arthur:] Does Marge ever say
[Evelyn:] No, she said she gets arthritis in hers... and I expect that's what it is with mine. Cos I got a bit before when
[Arthur:] More like it's the aftermath of the break.
[Evelyn:] It probably has it. It's the only thing I can say... and I think
[Arthur:] Well it's the
[Evelyn:] I think
[Arthur:] the silliest
[Evelyn:] my thumb
[Arthur:] silliest thing to happen isn't it, really?
[Evelyn:] Well it's happening every day!... I bet after on Friday
[Arthur:] Well I re, I noticed you the other... er, last time we went anywhere it... you look one way and walk another!
[Evelyn:] Well, you have to look what's on the stalls!
[Arthur:] Yes, and therefore it happens, you tread on something and... Bob's your uncle!... You should always look where you're treading I was told!
[Evelyn:] Mm. I notice you do.
[Arthur:] And that was mainly for dog dirt but now it's for... other hazards int it?
[Evelyn:] Did you put that clock right after... you put
[Arthur:] Which one?
[Evelyn:] In the hall. You know, you pushed it on a couple of minutes to show somebody.
[Arthur:] Oh! Never bothered to do it, there's plenty of other clocks to look at.
[Evelyn:] I know, but... cos I, I think our bedroom and bathroom clocks are...
[Arthur:] Tell me what this one is compared to Madge's? I could tell you.
[Evelyn:] This is... one thirty four.
[Arthur:] This is one... about wo, er one thirty three in the. That clock's right then.
[Evelyn:] Oh what about that then! Yeah.... You must have altered it.
[Arthur:] I know most things obtrusively.
[Evelyn:] Ooh!
[Arthur:] Which you never give me credit for.... Have to do all the scenery
[Evelyn:] Well done!
[Arthur:] but I never pushed in and stood on the stage, look I've done all this!
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] Some would. I've seen them do it!
[Evelyn:] No wonder! Stop!
[Arthur:] Is it that one?
[Evelyn:] Oh! No birds about at the moment but they've had a good feed of... chicken, but
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] they've left the bread.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Can't be that hungry then are they?
[Evelyn:] No. Yes. Just washed up. You've had a nice little
[Arthur:] Yeah! I went
[Evelyn:] sleep. You went right off! Left me to do all the washing up!
[Arthur:] Well... you can have tomorrow off.
[Evelyn:] Well it's wash day tomorrow.
[Arthur:] Sky looks full again doesn't it?
[Evelyn:] Mm, no. I think it's turned, going to turn foggy, freezing fog again. You've burnt your... I can smell burnt rubber. Your slippers have been against the fire. You've got that paper down there.... I can see it!
[Arthur:] You always say that.
[Evelyn:] You can, better pick it up.... No, you're not going to do any more, oh you can't do any more till you get some thicker board can you? Oh well! Put the right cloth on then.
[Arthur:] What's the time, two?
[Evelyn:] Half past. No! Quarter to three!
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] Well... Turn round!
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] You can get through
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] I tell you those chairs are too low now... now we're getting old. Want some... high back chairs. I think I'm going to treat myself to one!
[Arthur:] Oh it's... going a bit misty int it?
[Evelyn:] Well that's what I say th... fog's coming back.
[speaker001:] Ooh my eyes are getting really bad
[Arthur:] Oh if it starts working its do
[Evelyn:] well yes I know but my eyes are getting really bad, have another chocolate.
[Arthur:] Do you want some more spectacles?
[Evelyn:] No its not that, its just their deteriorating
[Arthur:] no, you are those
[Evelyn:] there all truffles, no there what Audrey
[Arthur:] no, you have
[Evelyn:] bought us, between us
[Arthur:] no they go off
[Evelyn:] no, there really beautiful chocolates
[Arthur:] any way I want
[Evelyn:] there Marks and Spencers they are... yes I, it, it Cath and Frank intended to come
[Arthur:] they wouldn't now
[Evelyn:] I doubt if they would in this well I wouldn't want them to come in the fog
[Arthur:] well no... there
[Evelyn:] because
[Arthur:] will be no point would there?
[Evelyn:] did you hear er the news?
[Arthur:] not all of it
[Evelyn:] a lot of crashes on the M 6
[Arthur:] well there always is in't there?
[Evelyn:] yes, but Sunday I mean
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] people don't have to go out Sunday normally
[Arthur:] mm...
[Evelyn:] don't, and the kids have been crossing at shop.
[Arthur:] Trouble is its too fast too close in it? all the time
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] I don't see how any one doing sixty can be three or four feet from another's bumper can you?
[Evelyn:] no... oh yes I should think he's learnt his lesson putting it on the
[Arthur:] I reckon somebody
[Evelyn:] bashed the other one
[Arthur:] well its been on the road
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Arthur:] its never done that before has he?
[Evelyn:] no, no
[Arthur:] perhaps somebody didn't like, perhaps he told somebody to stay there as long as he likes
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] they showed him he couldn't
[Evelyn:] mm, oh don't let me eat any more of these because there too sickly... wouldn't you like a Jamaican rum truffle?
[Arthur:] I mean he had it brought from somewhere didn't he?
[Evelyn:] mm, yeah, wouldn't you like a Jamaican rum?, here have one of those that's Jamaican rum see if you can taste the rum
[Arthur:] I suppose there he he didn't like to leave it the way, the way it was done
[Evelyn:] no, well...
[Arthur:] Oh, we can see it from back room now can't we?
[Evelyn:] Mm, if its a good record, yeah, how d'ya like that? could you taste the rum?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] couldn't eat many of these though could ya?
[Arthur:] oh no, but there's plenty of lights
[Evelyn:] mm, I'm glad were not out in it aren't you?
[Arthur:] It looks as if their all coming back, their all coming from the shops where their usually their going....
[Evelyn:] Cos I thought it'd been a nice day we could of nipped down to Sainsbury's
[Arthur:] well say when you look at that picture its just a bit er unusual in't it?
[Evelyn:] well aerial photo is er, bound to be different
[Arthur:] he must of come low to took that mustn't he?
[Evelyn:] unless he had a big zoom lens
[Arthur:] Tom seemed to think he come low last night
[Evelyn:] did he?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] oh I wouldn't know... I mean these zoom lenses are pretty powerful aren't they?
[Arthur:] well there is that... wouldn't taken him went off to the ch
[Evelyn:] it was taken about last July
[Arthur:] the, the leaves would be off wouldn't they?...
[Evelyn:] July, and I bet, bet my bottom dollar it was taken when Jackie and Tom were on holiday because of how their bit of front garden is all dried up... and that building at the back was completed
[Arthur:] about that time, mm
[Evelyn:] just before they stopped work the day before the July a fortnight holiday didn't they?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] they'd got little bits to do, but there was
[Arthur:] the front hasn't been, all their rubble still on the front
[Evelyn:] still there, but they finished the main building
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] at the end of June so that's when that was taken, you ought to of asked him when you saw him today
[Arthur:] can tell his white brick work, that were only done last year wasn't it?
[Evelyn:] no been done two or three years
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] you ought to of asked him when he sold it to ain't ya?
[Arthur:] eh, it were that lady come quick and he
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] he went off quick
[Evelyn:] no he went off quick, but I mean before you, while I was getting the money
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] you should of asked him if you
[Arthur:] I was too busy looking at the picture and the frame
[Evelyn:] yeah I know you were
[Arthur:] I were weighing up the value of the frame
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] not the picture
[Arthur:] I like the frame though very much
[Evelyn:] oh I do its like the mountains
[Arthur:] its some moulding like that
[Evelyn:] well you know
[Arthur:] I bet the mouldings very dear
[Evelyn:] well you know
[Arthur:] cos you know that black stuff well, well that was four pounds wasn't it that length?
[Evelyn:] about nine pounds a length for eight feet
[Arthur:] yeah, summat like that weren't it?
[Evelyn:] yes, well there's a new shop opened near the showers market, erm new thing... brick a brac its called, we'll go in there... its got, they keep advertising and they've got one in Mayfield Road
[Arthur:] oh we'll have a look then sometime
[Evelyn:] so when were out
[Arthur:] so if you don't get it
[Evelyn:] when you've painted some more pictures
[Arthur:] I if you don't bring wood worm with it
[Evelyn:] no, well the you, they've got mouldings as well as the frames
[Arthur:] mm, mm...
[Evelyn:] you've got to paint some more pictures though haven't you first?
[Arthur:] we've got a, got a picture of those just, er, with er you know with the flowers on, so be, really wanna is to make them back to the original, see they had nowt frames and I cut it up but
[Evelyn:] yeah, pity you didn't keep the frames
[Arthur:] yeah, oh well I did for quite a while
[Evelyn:] still I like I'd like them as they are I did
[Arthur:] but there was in the coal, well they looked a bit heavy on the wall
[Evelyn:] yes they did
[Arthur:] you want a big room really don't
[Evelyn:] well if you see any in the Antiques Roadshow you'll know what to do
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] see if they are valuable these days
[Arthur:] well there just cast your look, but I think cos of the frame was a modern looking
[Evelyn:] yeah, cos you changed it for a
[Arthur:] yeah I don't think he looked at these last too much
[Evelyn:] no, well if they come in handy
[Arthur:] they, those people don't like it altered in any way do they?
[Evelyn:] mm, well if they come again I shan't let the say were not selling any more bits
[Arthur:] no, I'm sure the landlord I'll
[Evelyn:] well I don't know we've still got plenty
[Arthur:] his entitled to the in he?
[Evelyn:] well there not finished yet are they?
[Arthur:] well that one is and the one in there
[Evelyn:] that one's not its not got the flags on the top
[Arthur:] well the one in there is
[Evelyn:] well they, they specialize in
[Arthur:] nick knacks
[Evelyn:] no, in certain things either
[Arthur:] well as far as that stoat didn't offer them any thing because they, a chap about forty he reached it it was, it was all tough weather scale of six, on, you know, and I said what, how much is that up there?, and he said ten shillings, I said a little bit dear in't it?, cos ten shilling then was ten shilling
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] and he says su its a good buy even for that says, it, you know, its a hundred years old, oh well he says it was continental, but er
[Evelyn:] well it perhaps wasn't just what he was looking for
[Arthur:] no... well he knew what he were looking for, something worth when you think
[Evelyn:] no its not
[Arthur:] I bet they come across it as well what about those painti, that painting before he had the market stall
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Arthur:] it were rolled up in a wood set er cardboard cylinder and it fetched half a million didn't it? I think it was er
[Evelyn:] I think it were a lot of money
[Arthur:] some painting of some homes in er a desert at night, it had been missing for er nearly a century
[Evelyn:] I er, the Antique Roadshows on tonight
[Arthur:] how much was this? mm
[Evelyn:] so we'll have to see
[Arthur:] best of it is he hadn't taken it out of the
[Evelyn:] roll
[Arthur:] roll, roll you know the box
[Evelyn:] well he put it in, probably didn't put it, must of taken it out to of looked at it surely...
[Arthur:] it'd look like that might of been looking in the markets and that
[Evelyn:] oh I know
[Arthur:] for that thing
[Evelyn:] well you've done quite well really haven't ya?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] collect so many bits... Val buyed it didn't she?
[Arthur:] yeah, oh
[Evelyn:] that teapot and plate
[Arthur:] she did well to of got them didn't she?
[Evelyn:] and what else did she, that tobacco jar oh no
[Arthur:] its a pity
[Evelyn:] you bought that didn't you?
[Arthur:] pity, I wonder what if we'd of had those what they would of offered, but they went for sale
[Evelyn:] I think
[Arthur:] and they only fetched twenty five
[Evelyn:] no they didn't, they fetched seventy
[Arthur:] seventy was it?
[Evelyn:] remember you said that thirty five of that would of been ours any way
[Arthur:] be, yeah yeah
[Evelyn:] but I think a lot of those about they get astronomical
[Arthur:] they, they also there a dangerously expendable on that corner of
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] that shelf wouldn't they?
[Evelyn:] mm, you'd of knocked them down
[Arthur:] er you you'd of knocked them down wouldn't ya?
[Evelyn:] you would have, or I would have...
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] you going to make us a cup of tea?
[Arthur:] I will if you so desire
[Evelyn:] those chocolates have made me sick, take them out of this hot room
[Arthur:] what the chocolates?
[Evelyn:] mm, put them in the pantry
[Arthur:] I thought you were going to put them inside here
[Evelyn:] no I've had too many, I feel sick
[Arthur:] I've eat er four some
[Evelyn:] well there the sort that you only want about a couple at a time at the most
[Arthur:] well one, one a day I should of thought. How
[Evelyn:] I don't want any thing in me tea
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] I put all the things ready
[Arthur:] what you say?
[Evelyn:] I put all the things ready, but use the tea in the old, empty the old lot out before you fill it up, I put the packet there ready to open....
[Arthur:] Don't knock your tea over
[Evelyn:] I shan't
[Arthur:] have you done it?
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] you know what's happened in to get in free er this was around there
[Evelyn:] oh they were cos he got a guarantee slip with it
[Arthur:] do you?
[Evelyn:] yes oh you bound
[Arthur:] get in free now
[Evelyn:] that's why it was a bit difficult at first to break down
[Arthur:] are they gonna give it us then, when they've got it?
[Evelyn:] of course they don't silly, they made about twelve pounds or they were, I don't know what they are now
[Arthur:] I seemed to remember, you know when my school was about
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] I seemed to remember he had one and put it at the back of one of his chairs, and
[Evelyn:] I don't remember
[Arthur:] there's something on the radio and I were commenting on it and then he all of a sudden he played it back, oh, er, it was about then probably
[Evelyn:] oh, oh I know that
[Arthur:] probably not as good as
[Evelyn:] no there not the same sort they were bigger a few years ago, I wonder he's getting on?
[Arthur:] probably dead, most of the people we know are dead aren't they?
[Evelyn:] well you know Gillian the couple who lived next door who went to live at Burnley?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] she kept in touch with them for some time... but er, I've not seen her for a year so, I wouldn't know. I feel hot now, do you?
[Arthur:] No I'm just right
[Evelyn:] shall I put this fire out?
[Arthur:] yeah, alright
[Evelyn:] I shall get too hot...
[Arthur:] we shall all end up in the same place...
[Evelyn:] mind you, not that I'd lite, the fire, not the glow... that's what you did one night put the
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] out
[Arthur:] yeah if er
[Evelyn:] and er left the fire on all night, oh
[Arthur:] if, if there's any thing after life do you reckon Hitler's managed it?
[Evelyn:] no, doubt it.... Well if Bill had come today
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] if we'd of asked Bill I don't think he would of liked to of come
[Arthur:] he would of come, yeah
[Evelyn:] not in the frost
[Arthur:] or George for that matter, it was
[Evelyn:] I'll ring him up today
[Arthur:] okay I, I get forecast
[Evelyn:] well that's what I said to you, but we didn't want to er visit again this weekend did we?, with last weekend
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] having Madge and Tom
[Arthur:] well Tom's his own, he can come one day if he wishes
[Evelyn:] yes, but I was gonna say er, he wouldn't of come any way in the fog
[Arthur:] no... he doesn't seem bothered about electrics does he? erm tapes and things
[Evelyn:] he doesn't do the electrics
[Arthur:] tapes and things
[Evelyn:] well I don't know, he's got a, a record player
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] that it, well he, that his son Phil taped
[Arthur:] tapes them for him
[Evelyn:] tape them well tape them for Marg, I don't suppose he's done any since Marg died... no
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] they bought it for Marg when she was ill... and Phil taped you know a lot of his records and some of Marg he'd got and that was it I suppose that's what sort Bill plays now....
[Arthur:] why he didn't
[Evelyn:] You can fill my tea up
[Arthur:] he didn't, he didn't seem to me to be er a mus
[Evelyn:] not too much sugar
[Arthur:] a musical sort of chap, does he you?
[Evelyn:] well I think he likes... never give him a, a chance when he's here
[Arthur:] why's that?
[Evelyn:] too much gabbing
[Arthur:] that so...
[Evelyn:] never stops talking... I want it filling up, not washing up
[Arthur:] what you say?
[Evelyn:] I want the cup filling up, I thought you were washing them up
[Arthur:] no I was washing the
[Evelyn:] no I want, I want another cup please
[speaker001:] I think I'd sooner see Angela Rippon, Those Were The Days, don't you?, on Sky
[Arthur:] Mm what you like, your choice...
[speaker001:] This is a nice cup of tea...
[Arthur:] About time I finished that saw in't there?
[Evelyn:] I thought it was finished
[Arthur:] well perhaps linked it up and used it...
[Evelyn:] but its too cold to go in the garage now
[Arthur:] it is really....
[Evelyn:] you know that back door key, I seemed to remember picking a key up thinking it was the... garage key
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] when I went in for the steamer
[Arthur:] you perhaps took it in there then, for
[Evelyn:] and then I found out it was the back door key
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] and, and the garage was unlocked so I didn't bother, I probably put it down when I got the steamer out of the cupboard
[Arthur:] mm, I'll got and have a look in a minute
[Evelyn:] well you needn't go in the cold, I've got a spare one in the drawer.... Was that one of the book's you got out on Friday?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] cos some of them are getting
[Arthur:] ah, well better take them back after a while then
[Evelyn:] no, you needn't, needn't take those you got out last Friday, its the earlier one's of which will be due next week I'm sure... cos they've put up the prices now, its about ten P every day you have them out.
[Arthur:] The thing is there's millions of books and you don't see all that many people
[Evelyn:] well, don't you remember I had to pay one pound fifty something last Christmas
[Arthur:] still I suppose you've got to pay the assistant
[Evelyn:] well it comes out of the Poll Tax, we pay enough of that... oh yes there's a
[Arthur:] a
[Evelyn:] no er a hair lip, Mrs I think her name is no the lady Mrs
[Arthur:] didn't know she'd got one
[Evelyn:] well she did have one it, she's had an operation, but er, I, she manages to go to the post on a Sunday afternoon, she must write to her sister in Australia, which makes a little round trip, a bit of exercise... that's what you ought to do more of
[Arthur:] what?
[Evelyn:] walking... keep you fit... its a bit you had a hair cut last week if you'd of left, if you hadn't of had it done you could of taken this thing down to with you and recorded that
[Arthur:] oh no
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] once he starts, its something
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] you'd soon get into some arguments down there wouldn't you? []
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] telling a tale
[Arthur:] I generally enrol
[Evelyn:] yeah, I know you do I know
[Arthur:] our Mike said you can't beat it, I, he said Cathy's doing look he says Cathy's up there start
[Evelyn:] walked away
[Arthur:] she does nearly five
[Evelyn:] where's the nail clippers?
[Arthur:] should be there on the side with the vase
[Evelyn:] no there not
[Arthur:] and in them
[Evelyn:] no here they are, I know I've seen them somewhere on the window sill
[Arthur:] you shifted them
[Evelyn:] I haven't shifted them, in't it a mucky day?... considering all that frost and cold you've got a lot of families out in the front door there ain't we?... have you got any tapes of ours not finished off?, or have we got to start a new one?... I thought there was a little bit on one that you hadn't finished
[Arthur:] mm, might very well have a look
[Evelyn:] start a new one though if, if
[Arthur:] you mean out of these?
[Evelyn:] no of ours
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] you were going to record Palmer Court weren't you?
[Arthur:] well you said don't do it unless
[Evelyn:] you can do Palmer Court at four, till half past and half past four its erm
[Arthur:] yeah, well in't it the same as the other one?
[Evelyn:] I don't know, you'll have to see, I mean switch it off and
[Arthur:] they might play a record you see, might'nt they?
[Evelyn:] well you'll have to see what it is
[Arthur:] well I can't till I've tried out one we've got
[Evelyn:] well I know what's on there, it won't be the same, its not, it won't be the same songs or items, will it?, they don't repeat their repertoire their, there not different items... I mean if we did and it was... a repeat you could always wipe it out, put something on top, couldn't you?... Have all the birds gone?
[Arthur:] They went a little while ago, apart from that they never came on this end
[Evelyn:] well yesterday the black bird was there and they ate till late, I think, I think they roost in that er holly bush
[Arthur:] possible, I suppose it, the waters always there and they've got a wall at the back
[Evelyn:] mm and that I, I think they do and the robin and the, that one starling and the thrush, I think they all roost there... cos they seem to be about every time you throw stuff out [cough]... I just remembered Tom's father worked at er, the electric company
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] in London B T H or G E C, I remember he told us that the last time... you know because he wasn't called up in the war he was reserved.... Ooh can you see the fog now swirling about, look at it
[Arthur:] ooh
[Evelyn:] you look, its all swirling about...
[Arthur:] mm its getting thick in it?
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] nice to see the front clear
[Evelyn:] yeah it is, kept the kids in today...
[Arthur:] seem to hang around here like a magnet don't they?
[Evelyn:] well
[Arthur:] you never see them across the other side
[Evelyn:] yes you do, you don't always see them, what have you done with your glasses?, oh, I thought you might be sitting on them again...
[Arthur:] have you thought about a holidays?
[Evelyn:] yes, I shouldn't mind going away... in a few weeks, if, if
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] it looks like being a nice
[Arthur:] would you like a change from Wales then?
[Evelyn:] I wouldn't mind going on a bus tour again
[Arthur:] mm, what to France?
[Evelyn:] no, well I wouldn't mind going there, but, I meant for a first holiday, a little holiday... I mean you enjoyed that did last April didn't you?
[Arthur:] yeah, its nice in your own car though in it?
[Evelyn:] I know, but you don't have the hassle though in those buses do you?
[Arthur:] only hassle if holiday, big holiday is when everybody's
[Evelyn:] ooh I don't know
[Arthur:] we got to Wales quick enough that Sunday didn't we?
[Evelyn:] oh yeah, yeah...
[Arthur:] so... see the thing is if you wanted to go, see, that Sunday half way we did didn't we?, don't you remember we had to cross the road?
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] if you put that on a worse bit, but you could and that
[Evelyn:] well you get, get lots, lots of stops don't you?
[Arthur:] you won't like it very much if you
[Evelyn:] yes they do you have lots of stops...
[Arthur:] yes, but none are appropriate
[Evelyn:] yes they do...
[Arthur:] there are twenty aren't there?
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] some days they've been about four ah?
[Evelyn:] well it was like till nearly five the other day
[Arthur:] I expect had enough sitting around wanted to get back to the bit like mews
[Evelyn:] like mews
[Arthur:] well it can't be very pleasant sit up there
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] all day, every day, can it?
[Evelyn:] no well get plenty of food any how. Have you given them all those potatoes?
[Arthur:] Well I crashed them up and its er, it ain't, I made sure those two slices, but they didn't touch them.
[Evelyn:] I think they've gone off potatoes a bit
[Arthur:] well you've about any way, so
[Evelyn:] any way I've only got enough for about two
[Arthur:] its not only children's programme, the young chap said to the bird expert which is the best er potatoes or bread?, oh he says potatoes every time
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] see bread has salt in it doesn't it?, still potatoes do don't they?
[Evelyn:] expect they do, well you always add some potatoes, salt to the potatoes, but er, I've only got enough for about two days
[Arthur:] oh...
[Evelyn:] so, the weather had better improve, I'll just have to buy some more from the milk man
[Arthur:] what bread?
[Evelyn:] potatoes I'm talking about
[Arthur:] oh I'll got across the Co-Op for me paper in the morning and get the potatoes from the shop no problem
[Evelyn:] I know, but there not very good there, about three times as much
[Arthur:] yeah, well why ain't they any good then?
[Evelyn:] well those people have them in stock for a long time
[Arthur:] they seem to sell them don't they?
[Evelyn:] I don't know, most people buy them in bags today, those in, those across the
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] Co-Op the other week were horrible
[Arthur:] how many have you got, another day?
[Evelyn:] I've got about enough for about two days, might be three
[Arthur:] that's alright then
[Evelyn:] I should think the weather will change before then
[Arthur:] mm, er, got a bit of revert back to the nice...
[Evelyn:] I've not heard the forecast today have you?
[Arthur:] that's
[Evelyn:] no I doubt it, its
[Arthur:] well I've had, had a little of
[Evelyn:] oh I had to switch it off it was no good, it was all political wasn't it?
[Arthur:] mm, give it time I mean its talk, talk, Churchill said jaw, jaw, but you can have too much jaw, jaw, can't ya?... Did you read that er a bit about him?
[Evelyn:] the documentary that their going to put
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] which will, it'll be interesting you see, listen
[Arthur:] says you won't like and then
[Evelyn:] well he was a bit of a slave driver I mean every body
[Arthur:] yes, yeah
[Evelyn:] knew that... he was a bit bombastic
[Arthur:] mm and he didn't do so well in his college days did he?
[Evelyn:] ooh he wasn't very bright
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] or he didn't try, well he didn't have a very happy childhood did he?
[Arthur:] no... in those days
[Evelyn:] well you didn't try when you were at school, you told me yourself
[Arthur:] no, I didn't bother... and next to me
[Evelyn:] I mean a lot of it depends on, or perhaps his par well if his parents didn't really bother about him
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] he said his mother didn't and then I don't suppose
[Arthur:] well my mother were out working and my dad was non existent
[Evelyn:] and then I suppose er in those cases like yours... children don't er, unless their sort of erm pushed a bit... or the parents show an interest in them
[Arthur:] oh you know the Meccano things?
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] try to that there was a clip on it, but
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] he bought me one for me Christmas, he came at,lo you know, loader with er, what's that in the bar, loader with erm
[Evelyn:] I don't
[Arthur:] when Jesus were born?, any way, this thing clicked on and er, it, I, showed me how to do it and I ain't got the strength, of course the war was on and there was er people were borrowing cups of sugar and er, probably, any way I couldn't clip it, he says oh he said to er mum, oh he says they clip on easily, but I couldn't
[Evelyn:] well your finger isn't
[Arthur:] the next then we moved from Archlin Lane to Founder Lane, where next Christmas I had Meccano that could screw with screws
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] mm I told you about Bill wanting it
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Arthur:] and then after Christmas dinner I built this windmill and mother and I liked it and he said well its only screwed together, I nearly said well you wanted it any way, see, he wanted it and yet cos I got it, it were, any body could have it
[Evelyn:] any body could do it you mean
[Arthur:] well that's the same thing in't it?
[Evelyn:] what time is it?, is it time to put that radio on?
[Arthur:] what that, three, four minutes... oh you can put it on if you like
[Evelyn:] well just try it and I'll tell you what, I don't know him
[Arthur:] er, rather throw suspicion that
[Evelyn:] it won't be the same
[Arthur:] its the same thing
[Evelyn:] it won't be the same songs, radio two
[Arthur:] what, what I could do I shall put these on and see what it at, starts and quickly put
[Evelyn:] no, its, its, Palm Court, we want to see Those Were The Days at four thirty
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] just try this Palm Court see if its worth recording
[Arthur:] well its
[Evelyn:] its not on until about two minutes past
[Arthur:] well I can get it ready now
[Evelyn:] two minutes past, because they have two minutes of news I think
[Arthur:] they we are
[speaker001:] Those Were The Days was quite good this week
[Arthur:] Yes very good, is it working?
[Evelyn:] Yes I think so, didn't you like it today?
[Arthur:] yes
[Evelyn:] didn't know about that fish, did you?
[Arthur:] well I've read, I seem to remember something about it
[Evelyn:] I mean you've gotta remember all those years back all those things can you?
[Arthur:] mind you for yea, when old Charles's said we crawled out the sea
[Evelyn:] yes... but it seemed a bit far fetched, if they said that
[Arthur:] but any then look at it like this
[Evelyn:] if that's been caught now why hasn't that... changed
[Arthur:] well it's the stoppage in evolution
[Evelyn:] well in sixty nine or whatever
[Arthur:] but, er, you look at it like this then, if we didn't crawl out of the sea and er evolve then did we just appear like a flash of lighting
[Evelyn:] no, no I'm not saying that we did, we did evolve
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] but
[Arthur:] we must evolved somehow
[Evelyn:] why hasn't that fish that they caught recently evolved?
[Arthur:] yes, well I used to read a lot of story books, travel avidly and I think I forget all about the author and the story, but I remember one portion where they discovered a depression in the middle of a continent where it was in excess of and they'd grown quite a different specie
[Evelyn:] of what men?
[Arthur:] the human, human's, you know I know it's only a story
[Evelyn:] I know several stages I know that
[Arthur:] eh?, but er
[Evelyn:] I mean there were several stages before they got to present day man, but
[Arthur:] yes, but they do know,le let's go back a bit further, but they do know at the beginning of the world most of it is water
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] so it's quite feasible
[Evelyn:] oh it is
[Arthur:] if, if, if it was three quarters water er human's must of been in the water to start with
[Evelyn:] well not human's, but
[Arthur:] well whatever we comes
[Evelyn:] antecedence of humans, mm... I don't know
[Arthur:] I mean we've still got a barren at the back, somebody kicks you at the back on that barren and er in the skeleton that's exactly like the barren in a monkey's tail
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] so at one time the theory is we our, we did have a tail
[Evelyn:] mm yes, but we didn't have a tail in the sea then did you?
[Arthur:] and then another thing you got
[Evelyn:] fish don't have
[Arthur:] fin finger nails, well surely millions of years ago they were claws
[Evelyn:] possibly
[Arthur:] then you've got your two prominent teeth, they could of been the tiger's two teeth...
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] and then there's another theory with your feet, you know that bit of skin between your toes, they claim that was web at one time
[Evelyn:] well isn't, you don't know much of
[Arthur:] not know, of course there's a, wears away with lack of use, but when you're in the water you want web feet because there
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Arthur:] the water I'll go through your fingers
[Evelyn:] mm, mm
[Arthur:] this, this skin here
[Evelyn:] yeah I know that
[Arthur:] it's not pronounced in mine, but, some er they say that with where it's gone away, you know, there's all sorts of things that can prove it... I mean the obvious thing is we came from somewhere didn't we?, we didn't just drop here with a flash of light... and er they've studied plants and other animals and they evolved.
[Evelyn:] Yes, but plants evolved with men's, man's
[Arthur:] I hope that they, they had had on their own for a million years, the plants did
[Evelyn:] I don't know, probably several hundred million years... mm, can't really understand them... can you?
[Arthur:] well, you'd go mad if you tried wouldn't ya?, like that man said the other week, er, you, human's invented god, well they did didn't they?
[Evelyn:] mm, did you take that tape out in the other room?
[Arthur:] yeah, to cut, cut a in that
[Evelyn:] oh did you know
[Arthur:] and the other thing
[Evelyn:] do you know where it is because it in't in this
[Arthur:] yes I left it there to call off
[Evelyn:] oh I see
[Arthur:] well if I've left it there to call off I'm not gonna put it in the case and shove it away
[Evelyn:] well I know, well you want to label it so you know what's on it... just reminding you, you say, oh you'll say you didn't remind me to write it down
[Arthur:] yes cos you always right, you remind me at the wrong time and the wrong thing
[Evelyn:] no I don't
[Arthur:] yes you do... oh I was gonna say something, you put me off now
[Evelyn:] mm, I'm always putting you off, I put myself off... you don't concentrate.
[Arthur:] well you're alr the, point it's greater the things they find it, that er three quarter of the world were water once
[Evelyn:] yes I know, you said that, you going to have the Antiques Roadshow at
[Arthur:] and then there's another thing, yeah, if you like, another thing Evelyn, you know when they give these rock,foss fossils out of rocks
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] big sand stone rocks, they find things that fish today er had, had got other pediments that million years back, same thing, but not, not, not the same as they are today, you know, well they must of got hold of it to be different from a million years ago
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] those shell fish things they're always on about in they get out the rocks
[Evelyn:] five thirty Antiques Roadshow... on B B C one, it's in Cleethorpes
[Arthur:] ten minutes then
[Evelyn:] huh, from Cleethorpes... I shouldn't think they'd get much from there, oh they might get some ships might they?
[Arthur:] yes don't
[Evelyn:] they might get, erm
[Arthur:] true, then there's another thing about religion I've often wondered, they say you go to heaven don't they? well, so well
[Evelyn:] well, no
[Arthur:] no, but some sort of place, well when, when you look at these pictures now, the satellites been going twelve months, still going through
[Evelyn:] two or three years
[Arthur:] well where's heaven then in all that lot?
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] and how'd, how'd ya get there when you're dead?
[Evelyn:] well you don't, that's just
[Arthur:] well then, why do they carry it all on?
[Evelyn:] well they don't really so much today, people
[Arthur:] yes, but you talked, listened to a parson on telly, he's convinced what he's saying true, yet it's only what he's been told in it?
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] with all this killing of children and that and burning them alive with flame throwers, what, what if this higher, high of command, why don't he interfere
[Evelyn:] there isn't...
[Arthur:] he did in my case
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] what'd ya mean?, huh []
[Arthur:] well wait in the Cathedral and out
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] and prayed []
[Arthur:] and prayed, when you left me
[Evelyn:] don't be silly... didn't really leave you... you were just being stubborn weren't you?, still are....
[Arthur:] Did Ken a member of church he didn't did he?
[Evelyn:] Ken, no, no he always went, not church, chapel you know he did
[Arthur:] oh did Tom leave?
[Evelyn:] no me dad used to say he was an atheist when he was courting Madge
[Arthur:] oh they don't, he don't believe in it now I don't think
[Evelyn:] and yet, yet, the children went to chapel
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] come
[Arthur:] but I mean I went to a church school
[Evelyn:] well probably Madge, Madge sort of
[Arthur:] well obviously they were going to teach me religion weren't they?
[Evelyn:] in a church school, yes.
[Arthur:] but you know the breaking up day for the summer holidays and Christmas
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] the vicar used to come and sit at the back and, you know, they used to do a little turn, you know play in the bands
[Evelyn:] mm end of term
[Arthur:] wanted that old, is it, the rag and bone people, you know, rubbish, and er I suppose somebody taught him and er he, he played in that and er you know did the little towns and the vic the vicar used to come and sit at the back, a seat under against, under the window and watch, perhaps he thought he'd er get some little co
[Evelyn:] well I expect if it was a church school they had to put in appearance odd times.
[Arthur:] er, yes....
[Evelyn:] No Madge, Madge must of sent the children to chapel
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] I don't think Tom probably approved, but she... well actually when they used to come to us on Sunday I used to take them to er, to Belver Fall... me and David, Thelma's husband and he's er, his father was a superintendent... so, do you want any tea?
[Arthur:] er, only ice cream if there's any
[Evelyn:] yes, you didn't have any yesterday did ya?
[Arthur:] not bothered about it really
[Evelyn:] yes, there's plenty of ice cream, do you want it now?
[Arthur:] no any time
[Evelyn:] later... do you want any cake?, sandwich?
[Arthur:] no it's just
[Evelyn:] I've got some ham
[Arthur:] after Christ after Christmas pudding and chicken thank you
[Evelyn:] I know, but years ago you always used to have a big tea and supper
[Arthur:] yes, so now were all digging and sawing and...
[Evelyn:] I mean... I, I know you're not doing any thing very active, well nobody is this time of year, but still, I've got some nice ham
[Arthur:] no, still full up from the last
[Evelyn:] still full up
[Arthur:] almost if I'd ate it you know, about half an hour ago
[Evelyn:] yeah, perhaps about seven, mm, or no?
[Arthur:] this... had a cup of coffee you know and
[Evelyn:] cocoa I've always liked it
[Arthur:] yeah, yes I mean cocoa or summat like that
[Evelyn:] before the war during the war, didn't you have any supper?
[Arthur:] not really, no
[Evelyn:] oh you always used to have
[Arthur:] yeah, they gave you high, what they called a high tea
[Evelyn:] oh
[Arthur:] their high tea, weren't bothered about high tea, but still, er then, they'd have, they might have a supper because she ain't been a work, their elderly, they perhaps have a good tea,the they, they went to bed at nine and they said if I was reading something, they said, you know turn the gas out when you come up and, there you are... well you can see, if one landlady gave me egg for me lunch that I hadn't had, they not, they weren't gonna feed you up at supper time were they?
[Evelyn:] no... oh you didn't stay there long did you?
[Arthur:] no, about three month's, just decided to run then the cafe on the corner to cof coffee cavern, well you, you can drop in have a, like you used to have in
[Evelyn:] yes, like wings
[Arthur:] and it about five minutes, five or ten minutes before we left off, actually been doing a great, getting a machine in Jack, we dropped in there for a cup of tea and er I goes in
[Evelyn:] two pints, two pints of beer before lunch [LAUGHTER]... mind you times were hard, that's why I didn't bother having any thing, I always went home weekends and got stocked up and... every thing, every other one we got boarders in
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] and it were a little, like
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] do you remember it like
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] London weren't it?
[Arthur:] yeah, well not quite like London, but it was
[Evelyn:] only
[Arthur:] not a little market country town, village more or less.
[speaker001:] Cos I washed them, took the things out
[Arthur:] Took them all out?
[Evelyn:] yes, do you want any more wine?
[Arthur:] no I'm alright
[Evelyn:] biscuit and cheese?
[Arthur:] no, nothing
[Evelyn:] you said you wanted some later
[Arthur:] no I didn't, the ice cream, did have a cake
[Evelyn:] d'ya want a coffee?
[Arthur:] I had a cake didn't I?
[Evelyn:] I've got a coffee made
[Arthur:] are you having coffee?
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] okay then
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] [yawn]
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] doing, or did doing, they did for some purpose didn't they?
[Evelyn:] is that hurting again?
[Arthur:] what we
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] the red lights on, should it be?
[Evelyn:] yes, while the switches are down
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] that... is always on the telly... that's er, that's a good programme that
[Arthur:] oh yeah
[Evelyn:] You've Been Framed isn't it?, it gives you a bit of a laugh...
[Arthur:] wonder what the weather's going to be like
[Evelyn:] er, lets have a look
[Arthur:] did you get the eight o'clock news?
[Evelyn:] no, oh you can on sky
[Arthur:] see if that cars gone
[Evelyn:] no, no there's
[Arthur:] is there another one there?
[Evelyn:] there's er one outside our place, one on the drive and one on the front
[Arthur:] what on, on our gates?
[Evelyn:] no, not on, they're not blocking our way
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] there's two,
[Arthur:] mm possible, of course that one could be some way for Jackie's
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] couldn't it?
[Evelyn:] but there's right up the road there all cars
[Arthur:] but the Asians got his on the drive hasn't he?
[Evelyn:] yes, but there's two more on, on his front, another one on our front
[Arthur:] [yawn]
[Evelyn:] er they're either having a party or erm
[Arthur:] oh well they're celebrating the collection for his garden
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER], [cough], oh I've got a bit of a chest, coffee?
[Arthur:] its that sort of weather
[Evelyn:] do you want coffee?
[Arthur:] yes please
[Evelyn:] any thing in, else?
[Arthur:] no, its that sort of weather isn't it?
[Evelyn:] just give me this glass, no I think that was a good programme
[Arthur:] yeah, made a change didn't it?
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] I think some of them...
[Evelyn:] would you like something nice?, what can I have?
[Arthur:] not tonight
[Evelyn:] to eat
[Arthur:] not tonight there's
[Evelyn:] I mean to eat, what can I have nice?
[Arthur:] what you did
[Evelyn:] oh I don't know, I've put the coffee on...
[Arthur:] sounded like
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] shouting let me know he was there...
[Evelyn:] I want to see er, Glenda Jackson later on
[Arthur:] oh she got sq
[Evelyn:] I like her
[Arthur:] square face
[Evelyn:] who says she's square face?
[Arthur:] she is
[Evelyn:] she's not
[Arthur:] she could be
[Evelyn:] not er not Glenda Jackson, Judy Dench, Geoffrey Palmer
[Arthur:] she's about the same
[Evelyn:] no, no they're, they're nice, good actress... is that on about eight thirty five, so that's er not too bad.... Now don't I've got to go and get that coffee else it'll be boiling over
[Arthur:] what's tape thirty five?
[Evelyn:] what do you mean tape thirty five?
[Arthur:] you said tape thirty five, Judy Dench
[Evelyn:] that's... I said its at eight thirty five.... See if its sweet enough, I'm not putting much sugar in and I can't carry both in, I daren't carry any thing in with me left arm yet...
[Arthur:] Its a bit hot
[Evelyn:] Well put it down on the table for a minute then.... Will you sort out er what pull overs you want washing tomorrow
[Arthur:] oh I don't want any done
[Evelyn:] well I don't know, there seems to be about four or five
[Arthur:] about
[Evelyn:] about, so I'm sure some of them might want washing
[Arthur:] its not the right day for pull overs any way
[Evelyn:] it is with me spin dryer
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] I mean nothing gets dry outside this time of year... oh there's not much taste in this coffee is there?, do you think so?
[Arthur:] well its a bit er...
[Evelyn:] yeah the ol
[Arthur:] what's a name a bit blanche, no that's not it, a bit erm
[Evelyn:] bland is the word you're looking for
[Arthur:] bland, that's it, bit bland
[Evelyn:] oh that Dutch coffee was too strong, now this seems to weak, or I didn't put enough in... I think I'll clean, put that filter stuff in tomorrow
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] might make it better [cough]
[Arthur:] that table never come loose again did it?
[Evelyn:] no, no its kept I thought it might when you put the Christmas tree on it...
[Arthur:] oh I er, that's what Peter send cos that's full of soil that erm
[Evelyn:] I mean the only er, look, make look flimsy don't they?
[Arthur:] mm...
[Evelyn:] those old tables in the Antique's Roadshow
[Arthur:] yes
[Evelyn:] almost worth ten thousand pounds
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] and yet underneath was all
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] you didn't see it
[Arthur:] dried
[Evelyn:] no, sort of rusty nails... not
[Arthur:] mind you its one thing saying
[Evelyn:] screws, but its
[Arthur:] its worth and getting it, in it?
[Evelyn:] well, I don't know... I think some value seem a bit high
[Arthur:] mm...
[Evelyn:] do you want a chocolate biscuit with that?
[Arthur:] not particularly, not after that cake
[Evelyn:] I've not had any cake tonight
[Arthur:] its filling in't it? who's is it Madge's?
[Evelyn:] no its mine, oh, oh yes that's, that's Madge's cake yes we eat it, we eat my one... there's not much left.
[Arthur:] What we doing tomorrow?
[Evelyn:] What I always do on a Monday
[Arthur:] washing
[Evelyn:] washing and ironing and cooking and cleaning
[Arthur:] and shouting at
[Evelyn:] ooh... you get rowed too quickly you do
[Arthur:] I don't accept er fools gladly
[Evelyn:] I'm not a fool
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] its you who, who gets all up tight
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] yes you did
[Arthur:] that's what
[Evelyn:] well you get all aerated then, if things are not quite right, you ain't got much patience with some things...
[Arthur:] I set up the and I like how its done
[Evelyn:] no you don't
[Arthur:] until you come along and upset the apple cart
[Evelyn:] you just dream a lot
[Arthur:] you get some weird ideas about
[Evelyn:] no I don't... I know I'm not very mechanically minded, but
[Arthur:] huh, you, you know how many
[Evelyn:] I can fathom things out eventually
[Arthur:] you know that twice two are four, huh...
[Evelyn:] mm, you never listen to people and then you think... you can just pick it up by deduction
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] instead of just obeying instructions you just say well that should go that way and that should go that way and to me that's immaterial if you just see it going, see it, if its working that's it, know where the tops and bottoms of it all... I mean I see [whistling]
[Arthur:] that won't that's obviously of won
[Evelyn:] she, she was, no, I don't see why they had her on last night, terrible... I mean I couldn't even tell what
[Arthur:] that er
[Evelyn:] that song, she or tune she was supposed to be singing
[Arthur:] you know in, erm
[Evelyn:] phew
[Arthur:] oh, er, oh John's Wood, you know that... film where the lad played er, sang didn't he?...
[Evelyn:] where who sang?, Al Jolsen with the boy?
[Arthur:] in that film with Al Jolsen
[Evelyn:] yes er, as boy
[Arthur:] he had a boy on, it was boy on, on the front of
[Evelyn:] well he was a boy
[Arthur:] the cinema
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] well he lost his voice and he started whistling didn't he with his
[Evelyn:] mm, mm
[Arthur:] with he, he, I mean he could of beat er, it, couldn't he?
[Evelyn:] well they must of had a profe really good whistling mustn't they but why they brought her on last night I think she was hopeless
[Arthur:] that's what I mean if they'd had a good whistler he kept instead of her, couldn't he?...
[Evelyn:] That man with that ten thousand table, apparently he said he use it nearly every day
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] he, it opened out
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] into a beautiful card table and, with the pockets
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] and er... he said he used it every day he said oh er, now I know the value I shall have to tell my bridge pals
[Arthur:] yeah, but that's what keeps
[Evelyn:] not to put there glasses
[Arthur:] that's what keeps it why its kept so long then, then he said that
[Evelyn:] then he said I shall have to tell my bridge pals not to mark the
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] because you know in the corners there were wood
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] wood, inlay wood things, you didn't see it, to put the glasses on or cups of coffee, he said I'll have to tell them not to put the glasses or cups on there
[Arthur:] but er, any thing that's put in the spare room and left, that's when you get wood worm...
[Evelyn:] do you remember when you thought you'd got wood worm in our new table
[Arthur:] and it was where they pinned the er, the, get the lips, the circle. They even gamble, we were talking about and she says oh my wife knows all about that from where we come from, you know, live, live one like Random Street and which I suppose they had to get where they could, she come and looked at it and said oh that's one wear, said they're only four, four holes
[Evelyn:] they were pattern holes weren't they?
[Arthur:] mm, but there was a bit er, you know where the legs moved?
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] when it were made like the sawdust, some of that had got on our
[Evelyn:] and you thought that was them
[Arthur:] that's what made me
[Evelyn:] you, you get to annoyed over trivial things, so I don't suppose you'll change at your age
[Arthur:] probably not
[Evelyn:] drink that coffee, its gone cold.
[Arthur:] when you think of this
[Evelyn:] mind its not in the saucer you'll spill that down you
[Arthur:] when you think of these er music boxes like George's got and you see on telly
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] but when it laying here and you look at this little box there, okay, with the real Doncaster
[Evelyn:] yeah oh yeah I see what you mean
[Arthur:] see what you mean
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Arthur:] they all sit round that Sunday afternoon wouldn't think it were
[Evelyn:] well it wasn't in those days... that were a good programme on, on Court today wasn't it?
[Arthur:] yeah, do you wish you'd like it done now
[Evelyn:] no we wouldn't have it on today, we'll have it on tomorrow, see how it sounds
[Arthur:] I bet it don't work though
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] I bet it don't work
[Evelyn:] even when I'm doing the ironing tomorrow morning.... Say you're gonna have an early night?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] [cough]... I don't think, you see, you see what that films out in't it?
[Arthur:] mm we've watched it
[Evelyn:] oh, er, well it, well that was, but I mean that's not gone back right has it?
[Arthur:] don't know
[Evelyn:] you think it has, look you see there that's straight
[Arthur:] mm, you probably bent it back when you fall, with all the pain and you, you ain't noticed it so much.
[Evelyn:] I know, I told him that was the only part that was hurting and he looked at it and said didn't
[Arthur:] alright
[Evelyn:] say it was any thing to bother about
[Arthur:] yeah, perhaps isn't, cos look at the pain in your frozen shoulder, its pain and yet its nothing broke is there?
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] disguise in't
[Evelyn:] I suppose it will come right in the end... its taken a long while because look at that lump there
[Arthur:] mm, yeah
[Evelyn:] look, can you see?
[Arthur:] mm...
[Evelyn:] shall I have a new wedding ring?
[Arthur:] of course you can if you want one, you'll have to ask about it do ya?... trouble though a cartoon ring will do just as well
[Evelyn:] you cheeky thing I've still got the other one, but it won't go on, but if I had erm
[Arthur:] well maybe they'll expand it
[Evelyn:] no, if, what, where if you haven't got any gold?
[Arthur:] well cut it through and open it and put a bit in
[Evelyn:] oh no I didn't
[Arthur:] you've got plenty of old rings I can
[Evelyn:] I haven't got plenty of old gold rings
[Arthur:] well you've got some rings can cut a bit off and put in
[Evelyn:] no... no I think I'll have a new one, that's got very thin
[Arthur:] any way I've looked at them
[Evelyn:] how much are they?
[Arthur:] dunno
[Evelyn:] how much was that?
[Arthur:] what?
[Evelyn:] can you remember my wedding ring?
[Arthur:] my that's going back in't it?
[Evelyn:] only thirty... thirty eight years nearly
[Arthur:] the man was going for the engagement ring did do er high street
[Evelyn:] no, yes well we had the wedding ring from there, he's closed down now
[Arthur:] why come out I thought myself I'm trapped
[Evelyn:] did you now?
[Arthur:] I'm trapped, huh, now I feel
[Evelyn:] I wished I'd never known that...
[Arthur:] mind you I reckon my life would of been
[Evelyn:] well your mother was the wood there wasn't she really?
[Arthur:] yeah, and when mother died what d'ya think my life would of been?
[Evelyn:] I dunno, can't see you getting on with Bill very much... much
[Arthur:] well they were always against me, well Bill was during the war, what I'd done to them, finished all the decorating, put shelves up, go on the slate to put his aerial up, he wouldn't go up, I had to climb out my bedroom window onto the gutter and its a wonder I didn't kill myself then, put his aerial up and
[Evelyn:] what, did you get a big ladder?
[Arthur:] no, I climbed out of
[Evelyn:] oh
[Arthur:] my bedroom window
[Evelyn:] oh
[Arthur:] you know your bedroom window where mine was
[Evelyn:] yes I know, mm
[Arthur:] it was a yard at the back, but, I climbed out and stood on the sides
[Evelyn:] that was a silly thing to do
[Arthur:] and pulled myself over the gutter, it were alright getting up, it were getting back in
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] and across the, er two yards the, a man and a woman were sit there watching me, hoping I'd fall I expect. His aerial had come off the chimney
[Evelyn:] mm... want any more coffee?
[Arthur:] when I was going onto the roofing that was Saturday before the Monday, he says we should in case I couldn't do the job
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] that were a very good send off weren't it for me?
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] mind you there were times when were miles away we said er, we, we...
[Evelyn:] your sugar was all at the bottom of your cup then
[Arthur:] I suppose it was, well I think
[Evelyn:] its er its only eight o'clock
[Arthur:] yeah, but I get up at five
[Evelyn:] oh you're not going to bed yet... well once in a blue moon do we have a late night?, not all that late at that
[Arthur:] yes, but when we see when we have
[Evelyn:] mm?
[Arthur:] what do we look at when we have like a most nights... last I see that Argentina thing
[Evelyn:] you was, Jackie and Tony came in
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] Jackie and Tony came round
[Arthur:] but I mean, er last night
[Evelyn:] oh I see
[Arthur:] so I mean in particular its alright if there's a good film worth watching, for that I'd sit up till twelve
[Evelyn:] yes, but you sleep you sleep through those mostly
[Arthur:] sometimes
[Evelyn:] [cough]... would you like a cam corder, or whatever they're called?
[Arthur:] I don't, what for films?
[Evelyn:] like those video things...
[Arthur:] I don't even know what they are here, let alone talk about it
[Evelyn:] what, you did, you saw when we
[Arthur:] what they hold on the shoulders
[Evelyn:] yes, what erm
[Arthur:] and they take pictures what, with
[Evelyn:] what's er name's husband was carrying
[Arthur:] like the old er movie camera with Kodak?
[Evelyn:] yes, similar, er... you know next door to you, that girl
[Arthur:] er wasn't that got that the
[Evelyn:] she'd, the husband had got one
[Arthur:] Elsie had got, well that's
[Evelyn:] Elsie
[Arthur:] that was a camera weren't it not a
[Evelyn:] it was a cam corder
[Arthur:] oh it was moving
[Evelyn:] yes it was a movie picture, yes been showing here, because... when she said she was blind, I thought well what's the good, but she said oh well, he, when he runs it through he sort of explains to, but he was using it all the time wasn't he?
[Arthur:] mm... I thought you meant something like this
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] there about what's it... four or five hundred pounds
[Arthur:] mm, I'd get two ladies for that
[Evelyn:] no you couldn't get two ladies, any way at your age what do you want a lady for?
[Arthur:] well I don't know, but could do with it years ago
[Evelyn:] well you should of had one
[Arthur:] I mean that's why I'm left with the cash, two hundred cash...
[Evelyn:] no never thinks she'll thought any thing like that, well you could of bought one couldn't you out of that
[Arthur:] I know I probably could of had one right from the word go...
[Evelyn:] yes, but you're always on about it as if you wished you'd had a
[Arthur:] well in the early days I only got er, what was, what was your, yours a quarter horse power motor wasn't it?
[Evelyn:] I dunno
[Arthur:] oh one eighth horse power motor, well it drove that little lad, you know, that I, that, what I use now, but you see to have a big one
[Evelyn:] you wanted a bigger one?
[Arthur:] wanted er like I've got, half horse
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] well you see then I thought the electric running it you know
[Evelyn:] well
[Arthur:] and, and er
[Evelyn:] you think too much
[Arthur:] I thought well its
[Evelyn:] cos your drum of it instructor told you
[Arthur:] eh?
[Evelyn:] years ago
[Arthur:] can't have bloody
[Evelyn:] I said you think
[Arthur:] can't bloody think er
[Evelyn:] no he was right... that's what I say you thinking about that thing, this isn't just doing it as it said, you ponder...
[Arthur:] what might go wrong
[Evelyn:] no, on, on why should we be doing this way or that way instead of
[Arthur:] just pushing it in and hope for the best
[Evelyn:] just pushing it in and and if it goes that's it, you, you want to question every thing
[Arthur:] like we did last night
[Evelyn:] no we didn't
[Arthur:] you're looking
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] better, do you feel better?, mm a nice pair of leg is it?
[Evelyn:] yes, I'm not too bad, no
[Arthur:] sure just nice
[Evelyn:] don't you ladder my stockings, your
[Arthur:] what's this here, you've had a
[Evelyn:] I know that, that's why its been hurting at night
[Arthur:] you've caught it on the er
[Evelyn:] er, no I don't mean that the stockings me tights
[Arthur:] that little
[Evelyn:] no oh there
[Arthur:] squares you had a
[Evelyn:] oh yeah
[Arthur:] hole there, or nail
[Evelyn:] oh, no wonder that's been hurting at night
[Arthur:] its been, that has been blistering some time that, think its have you been walked through the garden near the fire or any thing?
[Evelyn:] mm, might of done when I've gone to the dustbin
[Arthur:] cos you haven't got any nails around there
[Evelyn:] mm I've caught, I might of caught it when I went to the dustbin
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] once or twice, or the barrel, and that's overflowing, you've not emptied it have you?
[Arthur:] no, I was too busy ain't I?
[Evelyn:] no every time you go out to feed the birds you should take a bucket out
[Arthur:] I could of finished that ship in the time we might of had
[Evelyn:] oh no you couldn't you'd not been messing with that all that long...
[Arthur:] poor old Cath, she, she doesn't know where she caught it, I bet she thinks she caught it her mother
[Evelyn:] well you just catch these things, no she didn't got to Madge's when they got the
[Arthur:] she did she went on talking through the letter box to them
[Evelyn:] not to Cath, no he went in the porch, he'd only go in the porch to Audrey and tell Audrey not to go in
[Arthur:] [yawn]
[Evelyn:] because Audrey cut his things easily, the cabinet went no, its just in the air, I mean, if its going around you don't want to catch it, you catch it not going out any where, and the milkman probably, yeah...
[Arthur:] and what your dad had set for, for all this and
[Evelyn:] he'd of liked the horse racing on T V
[Arthur:] I bet he would, yeah and the cars.
[Evelyn:] and the car to take him around, well though he liked to walk in a way, when he was younger any way....
[Arthur:] Didn't he lean on the window sills towards the end?
[Evelyn:] Yes he did
[Arthur:] quite yours
[Evelyn:] well you do that's like your, I've seen your Bill he walks like your dad did
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] when he was not still
[Arthur:] do you reckon he enjoys his life?
[Evelyn:] who your Bill?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] well he probably has his er, he's got a
[Arthur:] married now
[Evelyn:] his music thing hasn't he?, he likes music... he likes to be on his own... [cough], ooh that nails sticking in... if you trim your nails properly
[Arthur:] you tell mother when I were fighting for me country, he ain't got a bloody scratch on him [LAUGHTER] now...
[Evelyn:] do you hear me washer still going?...
[Arthur:] yes its just changed over and its started off
[Evelyn:] oh... I know when I've got a lots of, if I do one lot tonight
[Arthur:] you'll get it all done... is it still raining?
[Evelyn:] mm, I shall er... get the other lot in and do that, do that first thing in the morning, get every thing cleared up, and then if you give me your pull overs, I can hand wash those and put them in the spin drier... so you'd better sort them out... do you think you'd of put some tassels in that pelmet?, you know where the I've got some spare one's no, don't you remember I went into and he gave me a piece of the trimming and I can take the tassels off
[Arthur:] and stick
[Evelyn:] and push them through that loop, it looks
[Arthur:] oh bit
[Evelyn:] a bit hard
[Arthur:] bit of Araldite just on the end of the thread is
[Evelyn:] no you don't I don't mean glue on
[Arthur:] Araldite will stick any thing
[Evelyn:] did you hear Jackie had to send her new curtains back
[Arthur:] mm, Tracy said
[Evelyn:] and she had them from May Porteswell. I bet, I bet the plain poor people wanting them for Christmas wouldn't bother to send them, well she kept them for over Christmas.
[Arthur:] Well it getting difference now here with most things, I mean now, er none of the shop keepers are sa, like they were very helpful in our day weren't they?
[Evelyn:] oh some of them are now
[Arthur:] oh I expect there is, but not in general
[Evelyn:] well I dunno, they ought to be even more now that fighting, er supposedly fighting for business
[Arthur:] yes you're not gonna tell me... er eighteen year old girl today compares with an eighteen year old girl in your mother's day
[Evelyn:] well, they wouldn't be making curtains, I don't think they could
[Arthur:] no I mean er they went, they did assist didn't ya in a shop
[Evelyn:] well some do today, er especially if they're on commission, perhaps they bother and try to sell you things you never really want
[Arthur:] I know that Iron mongers at er, near mo er Chequers Road, you know, where I used to go in and there were down from the top of the steps to the path, just what I wanted
[Evelyn:] well that's a, that was a good little shop isn't it? oh I've been there lately
[Arthur:] it was, its still er
[Evelyn:] yes you was
[Arthur:] nobody went, dear old Maisie went to all that trouble
[Evelyn:] she's a very old
[Arthur:] yeah what they do now if its, if its not within sight they say we haven't got any thing
[Evelyn:] no, well they come all in packets now don't they? you have to buy a packet
[Arthur:] yeah I suppose
[Evelyn:] five, when you want six so you have to buy two packets
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] that's a gimmick isn't it?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] five in a packet
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] of screws and, and odd screws no good, so, mostly is it, so you have to buy two packets
[Arthur:] still its always handy to have one or two as spares
[Evelyn:] I don't know, you've got a great big tin full of screws and nails and you, you still have to go and buy some...
[Arthur:] well I found the, I found those hook and eyes for your picture
[Evelyn:] yeah, but you want one that's closed up don't ya for that picture
[Arthur:] I mean what's in the pa picture itself
[Evelyn:] I know but, but you want, you want, really want one with a closed hole, you've got it
[Arthur:] well they are in the picture, but not on the wall
[Evelyn:] oh is that it?...
[Arthur:] you take a lot of convincing
[Evelyn:] no, but one side, one sides not
[Arthur:] sometimes
[Evelyn:] cos it was coming up when Tom fetched it down, not closed up
[Arthur:] oh this one was
[Evelyn:] should be yeah and that was the one
[Arthur:] oh it only wants pinching
[Evelyn:] yes I know it wants pinching in the eye
[Arthur:] well, its, its high any, its
[Evelyn:] I know, well
[Arthur:] and, and that, that's not closed up whilst you wouldn't get it on
[Evelyn:] well that's I know you don't want that closed up well you do
[Arthur:] well, if, if
[Evelyn:] wanna picture
[Arthur:] if one's like it the other's like it... as long as that's hanging there untouched there's quite, quite safe, I mean weren't worth it
[Evelyn:] perhaps if I were dusting it might
[Arthur:] well don't you dust any way, you shouldn't dust glass, image that why should you?
[Evelyn:] well you should wipe the outside of the frame didn't you?
[Arthur:] er, yes, like, you like just flick round it
[Evelyn:] oh, did you find that thing with the anchor on?
[Arthur:] no I looked for
[Evelyn:] you know that, I'll tell you where it is
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] you know that figurine in the bathroom?...
[Arthur:] oh that one that were sit, that
[Evelyn:] the bathing lady I reckon its on there
[Arthur:] I I see
[Evelyn:] you have a look when you go up
[Arthur:] I could of swore we'd had one somewhere
[Evelyn:] yes I could of had I'm, I think its that bathing lady in the bathroom
[Arthur:] mind you it might be a hard thing to give away or sold in it?
[Evelyn:] no I don't think I've sold any of them erm, any way its probably not genuine
[Arthur:] no I suppose, it could be painted on couldn't it?, they never bothered with these lady did they?, cos its modern in't it, modern made
[Evelyn:] well its all repaired isn't it?
[Arthur:] oh they wouldn't know that
[Evelyn:] yes they do, experts know whether its been repaired
[Arthur:] he never picked it up to see, just looked at it
[Evelyn:] well he knew we didn't mean to sell it... better do some of the ship tomorrow, where's the, look you had one of the masts out, where is it?
[Arthur:] there
[Evelyn:] oh... I thought you [LAUGHTER] used it to get
[Arthur:] can't remember
[Evelyn:] lost it
[Arthur:] can't you buy it
[Evelyn:] I remember you had them all in line
[Arthur:] three, three foot long pieces on the bench
[Evelyn:] no but you've got them all in island right high you don't
[Arthur:] well you
[Evelyn:] have to do it, you haven't
[Arthur:] you want something quick for that didn't ya?
[Evelyn:] mm, I've forgotten
[Arthur:] and me being a great innovator
[Evelyn:] oh, mm
[Arthur:] rob Peter to pay Paul as usual
[Evelyn:] yes that's all the time... same as my cupboard door in the kitchen... will it take you long to repair that?
[Arthur:] repair what?
[Evelyn:] that cupboard door in the kitchen
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] that's in the shed
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] mm?
[Arthur:] no, its all there very much seeing to it
[Evelyn:] I know it wants seeing to, but, how long is it going to take?
[Arthur:] I rather like it open actually
[Evelyn:] well I don't
[Arthur:] [yawning] huh, huh, huh []
[Evelyn:] keeps the dust out
[Arthur:] [yawn] I feel tired, I do, tired, that's not performing is it?
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] er, that's a blow
[Evelyn:] why... oh dear
[Arthur:] you're leaving it like that then?
[Evelyn:] yes leave it on for, finish it off
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] what time is it?, is it eight thirty five yet?
[Arthur:] twenty past
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] twenty past
[Evelyn:] I wonder if that washing's done, let's have a look, I have to go out in the shed and get the erm no its not er, its not finished yet...
[Arthur:] that's not is it? said that
[Evelyn:] no you looked at that
[Arthur:] that's a six in it?
[Evelyn:] you go and have a look at that one in the bathroom... any way he looked at that mark, so if it was any thing
[Arthur:] yeah, probably sell that as well
[Evelyn:] if it was any thing he'd er
[Arthur:] he'd of said...
[Evelyn:] and made an offer for it
[Arthur:] any way I'd sooner see it wants to get
[Evelyn:] oh I wouldn't sell that
[Arthur:] you wouldn't get one like that today
[Evelyn:] I wouldn't sell, sell it
[Arthur:] would ya?, where would you get it?, get one like that?...
[Evelyn:] you go and have a look at that one in the bathroom...
[speaker001:] Well didn't, when was that?
[Arthur:] Mm, mm...
[Evelyn:] oh no its straight after You've Been Framed
[Arthur:] Poirot I seemed to know erm
[Evelyn:] Poirot, that er
[Arthur:] French man
[Evelyn:] detective, Belgium with a moustache
[Arthur:] mm...
[Evelyn:] mm, yeah
[Arthur:] I'm sure this picture on last week's
[Evelyn:] well it might of been on Radio Times, but
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] but I, I doubt it
[Arthur:] see if there's any thing on, before we go to bed
[Evelyn:] I'm going to see this eighty thirty five, As Time Goes By
[Arthur:] oh dear
[Evelyn:] its only half an hour... so if its not any good in half an hour, its neither here nor there is it?
[Arthur:] the look jealously and obsession
[Evelyn:] well, no, that's not it
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] your reading the wrong one, that's it...
[Arthur:] Have you seen that one?...
[Evelyn:] Mm, at eight fifteen and we've missed half, half of it.... Its a pity we can't get any body else, er, to be here what with the flu and, in it?
[Arthur:] mm? going on
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] I've dittoed you for why
[Arthur:] mm?
[Evelyn:] I've dittoed you for why, mm... is there any thing you fancy?, look at tomorrow's pick
[Arthur:] tell you what, [reading] re rescuing wild, fight against poachers on Wild Life []
[Evelyn:] where?
[Arthur:] gone last night, I didn't see that
[Evelyn:] well you were probably looking at er
[Arthur:] something else
[Evelyn:] You've Been Framed
[Arthur:] Defence of the Wild seven o'clock, [reading] folks on men and women who dedicate their lives protecting the worlds, the worlds wilderness []
[Evelyn:] oh we've seen too many of those main forest ain't we? its always on
[Arthur:] fighting in Juventous
[Evelyn:] look at that, its still a lot swollen in't it?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] look
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] there and there
[Arthur:] a bit puffy in't it?, mind you it is a bit fatty looking in't it?
[Evelyn:] oh me wrist is, it's there in't it where its all swollen
[Arthur:] mind you its not been all that long is it?
[Evelyn:] it has, about eight week's, must be... er that sounds as if the wash has finished, you fancy any thing?
[Arthur:] at eight thirty the comedy I don't know what that is
[Evelyn:] er no, I'm going to see that er eighty thirty five
[Arthur:] mm, oh I'll go bed then while you see
[Evelyn:] you have the radio on if you don't want
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] don't you want to see it?
[Arthur:] not particularly
[Evelyn:] I like her
[Arthur:] she's the ugly one in't she?
[Evelyn:] no she's not... I have a picture of her somewhere, she's nice... him, his, there, there she is
[Arthur:] oh she's worked two years at the Larkins
[Evelyn:] she's a Nottingham girl, yes its coming on, on er
[Arthur:] oh pot luck
[Evelyn:] er toy, toy things that, Rolls Royce its a bit daft in't it?, four ninety five...
[Arthur:] er not
[Evelyn:] not the right size.
[Arthur:] Aye but... well it's the right size sort of thing it's, but it's er... to double up with the picture you can't do it.
[Evelyn:] So you've just got to draw natural?
[Arthur:] Well, well not being twice the size. See twice the size, it wants twice... say the... it's nine inch and you want it twice the size... the canvas wants to be eighteen inch doesn't it?
[Evelyn:] Oh it's not that big is it?
[Arthur:] You see? And er... it's either, I think it's an inch and a quarter bigger than that. So you've either gotta have a border and paint something in it or... you know? So that's what I'm working out.... There'll be east top and bottom superfluous to the er what I'm painting.
[Evelyn:] Well you can put a bit more in can't you?
[Arthur:] Oh yeah, of course, fill it in.
[Evelyn:] Don't have to be exact.... I think it's worth having a chicken for the soup do you?
[Arthur:] Aye lovely. [sniff] Bring the dead to life.... Yet people have tinned soup don't they? And these youngsters, what do they do, you know these young brides?
[Evelyn:] Packet soup....
[Arthur:] Course some can cook....
[Evelyn:] A lot of them have these erm... deep freeze meals....
[Arthur:] I never thought a lot to canteen meals....
[Evelyn:] Ours weren't bad....
[Arthur:] [sniff] That ti I was at er canteen at erm... and I took my plate, I was there thre two or three days and... she says you're the only one that's ever brought the plate back.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]... Perhaps they thought you wanted seconds.... Rice pudding do you want after that?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Bit late today aren't we?
[Arthur:] If you did it years ago they used to have a man in the lounge, only in the lounge
[Evelyn:] Oh
[Arthur:] you always paid a bit e extra and he'd er... fetch your glasses and bring another one.
[Evelyn:] Mm. I think those days are gone.
[Arthur:] And I, I, I di took it back once myself [LAUGHTER] and he says that's my job []....
[Evelyn:] Ah! Well there's not much on telly this afternoon is there?
[Arthur:] No.... Nothing you fa there's plenty on but nothing
[Evelyn:] Well that's
[Arthur:] you like.
[Evelyn:] No I'm going to rest after this meal.... Ooh I shall er do Countdown at four thirty.
[Arthur:] Mm....
[Evelyn:] What are you going to do, go back to your drawing board?
[Arthur:] Oh probably not.
[Evelyn:] No?... Fed up with it?
[Arthur:] Well no but... erm I've got on well, I've got the paper draughted fairly well and...
[Evelyn:] Jackie's back.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Did you say somebody called but... perhaps they had a key though, I won't say anything to her, they might have had a key.
[Arthur:] No. A white van came, chap got out, you know, I never sh I di I didn't look to see if he come back.
[Evelyn:] Oh well
[Arthur:] But he, he, he, he, he'd gone shortly after.
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Arthur:] Whether he couldn't get it in I don't know.... She has been letting them in hasn't she?
[Evelyn:] Well leaving them a key or giving them the key to get in.... And it, now she's got to have the curtains replaced and I wondered if it was him who'd come
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] and
[Arthur:] They don't have things on the van now do they?... Saying who they are.
[Evelyn:] Not all of them.... Still I got all the washing and ironing out of the way thank goodness, it's not bad now is it?
[Arthur:] No....
[Evelyn:] Er... are you going to get the car out to get the wheely- bin out? The morning isn't it? Comes about seven.
[Arthur:] Yeah I, I shall be up.
[Evelyn:] Well you might not be. You might [LAUGHTER] you might forget [].
[Arthur:] Shouldn't lay there too long.
[Evelyn:] Well it's up to you isn't it?... But they were there about seven the other week.... I know we're always up by then but... you never know, we might s be a bit late
[Arthur:] But it's always
[Evelyn:] and not get up. It's half
[Arthur:] it's always
[Evelyn:] it's nearly full this week.
[Arthur:] I was gonna say it's always half empty.
[Evelyn:] Ah no well it's nearly full, and there's that big carton in the shed to put in. It's too big to keep isn't it, that big flat one. That big oblong one, put that in it, get rid of that.... Well you do get aeriated though when you're trying to do a new job don't you? [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] I don't suffer fools gladly
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] I'm not a fool, it's you who's the fool [].... The simplest little thing.... Do you want any more soup on there?
[Arthur:] Yes but you won't be told, I mean
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] to me, electric, the plus always goes to plus and the minus to minus, you can't mix them up.
[Evelyn:] Well I know you can't.... Do you want any more soup with that erm potato, those veg? There's plenty left, well not plenty but there is some, do you want it?
[Arthur:] No, the bit that's in the thing, there's plus and minus stamped but on the back there's but you assume, you assume that there's
[Evelyn:] well it's the other way round well of course you do
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] you turn it the other way round, everybody knows that....
[Arthur:] You didn't, you were
[Evelyn:] Yes I did!
[Arthur:] You wanted to put them upside down.... So I, when I proved to you it didn't work you were satisfied.... You were going with the picture on the outside, well that's fatal.... You wanna go plus and minus don't you?... batteries, see if there's anything...
[Evelyn:] I don't know where I put them.... Was that anything? No that's... Yes I know....
[Arthur:] Do you feel warm?
[Evelyn:] I do, I've just taken my jumper off, haven't you noticed it? It's the soup making you warm, and the wine....
[Arthur:] Mm can't eat [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Can't you [LAUGHTER] eat any more []?
[Arthur:] Well I want
[Evelyn:] Give it to the birds then.... I'm not going to have a sweet.... I think.... I'm gonna have a biscuit and cheese, just a little.... Come and have your pudding.... What do you think to the rice pud, is it... do you want any more milk on there?... Yes? Mm?
[Arthur:] The top's a bit hard, the crust.
[Evelyn:] Oh. That's having dinner a bit later isn't it?... Well your jam's soft in the middle isn't it?
[Arthur:] Have you done all your washing?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. It's all up in the airing cupboard.... Oh no I don't... sit and think about it like you do with things. Just get on with it....
[Arthur:] There's nothing like forward planning.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh []... you're the least planner... I've ever known.... Or organizer should I say, you're the worst organizer... I've ever met....
[Arthur:] Well let's hope you don't meet someone [LAUGHTER]...
[Evelyn:] Have you got another bag of seed? Have you found it?
[Arthur:] No I had a look but erm
[Evelyn:] I knew you hadn't got him one you would argue wouldn't you?...
[Arthur:] Think we'll get it, got it Friday, this Fri
[Evelyn:] No you got one on Friday. Couldn't carry two with not having the car.... And you reckoned then you'd already got one nearly full
[Arthur:] box are in the toilet with a paper bag in there's a, where I used to... put them and I've had a fair look but not sort of
[Evelyn:] I don't er I know you haven't got another one, I remember you emptying the first bag. That's weeks back.... And I haven't got any stashed away.
[Arthur:] Well we shall have to get some then if, when it's propitious.
[Evelyn:] You don't want to go this afternoon do you?
[Arthur:] Not particularly.
[Evelyn:] Anyway you can't go in the car cos you've had some drink.... Go first thing in the morning.
[Arthur:] P pigeons have been dying, not,no the one up on the top....
[Evelyn:] Well you don't want them to come if you've got no seed for them do you?
[Arthur:] No. Well there's all that stuff up... meat and bread, one of them's gone there now look
[Evelyn:] Have they cleared that chicken off the roundabout?
[Arthur:] I haven't been up there.
[Evelyn:] Didn't you look? Oh I
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] thought you went over there.
[Arthur:] Thought you weren't putting any more cos of the cats.
[Evelyn:] Well if you go and pick the bones up. You know, they were all round it just before, while you were drawing.... I'll go up and pick the bones up and it'll be alright.... Ooh I'm going to go and have a shower and a change... and go in the other room and have a rest.
[Arthur:] eight hours sleep I should think.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Why did I keep you awake last night?
[Arthur:] No, no. Light.
[Evelyn:] Well I didn't sleep very well again.... Do you want a bit of this cheese, it's lovely?
[Arthur:] No not really a cheese man. I don't mind a bit on a biscuit on occasion but
[Evelyn:] Oh I thought you used to love cheese.
[Arthur:] I used to like that Canadian red.
[Evelyn:] Well this is.... No this is Canadian white.
[Arthur:] working on the stage musicals then weren't er... if you'd not had your tea and you brought something the commissar would eat them....
[Evelyn:] Did you see that Joseph and His
[Arthur:] Many Colours?
[Evelyn:] It's m m making a big hit again in London. Well it is a good show isn't it?
[Arthur:] Mm well it m ma er m made a big hit here didn't it?
[Evelyn:] Mm.... Well I suppose... it's good for children anyway.
[Arthur:] Well you see they've been brainwashed to that sort of music so they're bound to, bound to like it.
[Evelyn:] I know but it's not all that sort it's erm... I mean you enjoyed it and you don't normally like pop do you?
[Arthur:] Say the children that when that, we saw it... now what would they be, fourteen, fifteen?
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] They've bound to go for it aren't they at that age. They only like to listen to rubbish. [sniff]
[Evelyn:] No they don't.
[Arthur:] Why people spend good money to go and listen to that sort of stuff I'll never know.
[Evelyn:] Not the co Dream Coat, that's alright.
[Arthur:] No, no
[Evelyn:] You liked it when you went to see it.
[Arthur:] Yeah but you can't beat it with er can you?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] With who? [] [whispering] []!
[Arthur:] Er nice er and that one we listened to this morning, the dance. Lovely, you could listen to that... three hours at a time....
[Evelyn:] Well some folk music you can can't you, that's what it's for.
[Arthur:] Well and what do you reckon those are, now all those, would they have pop music?
[Evelyn:] Well times were different weren't they.... We lived in a gentler age....
[Arthur:] [sniff] Oh some, I have a... sort of fee
[Evelyn:] finish that pudding.
[Arthur:] I have a quiet feeling that this no reading and no a add up and all that stuff co co stems from the music they're always listening to....
[Evelyn:] No it's not, it's the teachers.
[Arthur:] They walk by with headphones on don't they?
[Evelyn:] I know. No a lot of it's these young teachers. And probably the training colleges.
[Arthur:] yes but teachers are like them aren't they? They dress like, they dress
[Evelyn:] Well that's what I, that's what I mean.
[Arthur:] like them.... Remember our teachers?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] A dark suit and moustache.
[Evelyn:] Any more?... Any more wine?
[Arthur:] No thanks. And a severe
[Evelyn:] I'm going to have to clear up and go in the other room.
[Arthur:] a severe expression and it wasn't put on.... It was built in.... We had screens on wheels in latter years at, last few years at school and er... he used to go down to the tea room for a cup of tea half way down the stairs, the teachers' room and perhaps go toilet as well, and er... the one at the back was a foot out from the screen and every now and then he'd have a look to see if he was coming and er we, what had had a big case with birds in and the lads who were doing it looked in this, saw the reflection and shh he's coming. So er er after a bit you see he changed them round, he, he guessed somebody were... and of course I got the job...
[Evelyn:] I'm glad I'm getting rid of all the Christmas remnants. I've only got one round case and about two vol au vents
[Arthur:] I forgot about that.
[Evelyn:] so
[Arthur:] Still you said you want it running d?
[Evelyn:] Yes that's
[Arthur:] understand what you're
[Evelyn:] Well I'm just getting it on the Well... Now have ten minutes with your feet up before you change.... [break in recording] Did you know?
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] You dozed for about three quarters of an hour.
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] This afternoon just after
[Arthur:] What were the birds doing?...
[Evelyn:] Well they cleared all that chicken now I've picked all the bo
[Arthur:] with all this...
[Evelyn:] [whispering] []
[Arthur:] with all this... you arguing and telling me I'm wrong when I'm right and right when I'm wrong.
[Evelyn:] No I'm not!... In fact I felt tired and when I went to change I er
[Arthur:] Went on the bed.
[Evelyn:] No I felt like going on.
[Arthur:] Oh if you'd shouted down I'd've g come with you.
[Evelyn:] Oh no you wouldn't. No I didn't but I just changed and came down here and put my feet up here....
[Arthur:] Yeah we're getting on now so
[Evelyn:] I keep going cold.
[Arthur:] Somebody said in the paper shop that... looking for the papers er I thought, I couldn't see any, I was starting to walk out I said have you finished with the papers, said no there they are in that cabinet
[Evelyn:] Oh they're always changing the position.
[Arthur:] Yeah, some old girl in there... I said you get like that at eighty two, she said you're never eighty two I said I am, she said well you look well on it.... I said yes I can rise to the occasion as well.
[Evelyn:] Well that's a silly remark to make.
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]... Well I can rise to any occasion
[Evelyn:] Pardon?
[Arthur:] woodwork, windows, anything....
[Evelyn:] Do you want a chocolate biscuit?
[Arthur:] No, full up...
[Evelyn:] Such as?
[Arthur:] have to burn it up when you're... Feels as if only just gone.
[Evelyn:] Well you know all the chicken bones?
[Arthur:] Mm I see they cleared it out.
[Evelyn:] They clean oh, oh I've put all the bones in the er dustbin.
[Arthur:] I see they cleared it all up....
[Evelyn:] And I didn't cut, you know I didn't cut it up, I just left it.
[Arthur:] About another three weeks we should be out of the real winter shan't we?
[Evelyn:] Should be. Although March can be... pretty cold.
[Arthur:] February.
[Evelyn:] February's usually the worst.
[Arthur:] February you get wet snow and rain.
[Evelyn:] Mm....
[Arthur:] Mind you don't burn that ch table.
[Evelyn:] Well you pushed the table nearer the fire. It was, you left the back door open that's what's made it, the room cold....
[Arthur:] How was your tea?
[Evelyn:] Very nice.
[Arthur:] tea now. Nothing to watch is there?
[Evelyn:] Well yes Some Mothers Do Have Them about seven thirty.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I'm going to have Countdown, I'm going to do Countdown.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Ke keeps your brain active.
[Arthur:] We've got enough active there.
[Evelyn:] Keeps your brain active.
[Arthur:] Yeah well... use it on there then.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] By the way is it er
[Evelyn:] It's still recording I think.... Might as well use this tape up and...
[Arthur:] Do you think I ought to finish the ship first of all or do the oil painting?...
[Evelyn:] Well if you've got to go in the garage, it's too cold to go in there to finish the ship off so you'd better paint in the house hadn't you?...
[Arthur:] Well if I want to turn something I've gotta keep walking in and out and I don't wanna do that.
[Evelyn:] Well then leave that till warmer weather.... It's not ready for rigging yet is it?
[Arthur:] Will you take that to Tom's or not?
[Evelyn:] Who?
[Arthur:] Your Tom....
[Evelyn:] If we go tomorrow, yes. We might as well use a tape up.
[Arthur:] Do a pennorth do a pennorth of it can't you?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Perhaps Maggie's got some bright ideas of
[Evelyn:] I doubt it.
[Arthur:] Cath I know who could fill it up, Cath.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Cath []. Well we've got to go round there if we're out to because erm we've still got Penny's
[Arthur:] Well it'd show willing if we did get a bit of all on wouldn't it?
[Evelyn:] A few more....
[Arthur:] I mean if, if they had,ha had nursery rhymes.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] No don't be silly [] they just want vocabulary, they don't want things like that, they want to know... a person's vocabulary a to cer you know, at a certain age.... I think the... not doing very well with some sixteen year olds. No! Tim's got that lady friend.
[Arthur:] I know he w she were on about a room weren't she?
[Evelyn:] No! Why would Tim want to come and live here?
[Arthur:] I didn't say he would but Cath might want him to.
[Evelyn:] No course she wouldn't!... Anyway Tim's paying a lot towards that house.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] You know he paid for it to be
[Arthur:] Well that very much when you live there does it?
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] Look what we pay Look what we
[Evelyn:] And then the double glazing cost over a thousand.
[Arthur:] Mm. Glad we didn't have it then.
[Evelyn:] Well it is about, about a thousand for one bay window so she's had the whole house done... so it's probably nearer three.
[Arthur:] But can you honestly say you've been cold in this house?
[Evelyn:] No....
[Arthur:] I've been in digs
[Evelyn:] Well where lots of people
[Arthur:] I've been in digs where you went to bed and you've had to put your top coat on the bed.
[Evelyn:] Mm. There are lots of people let the windows go and it was a case of either having new wood windows
[Arthur:] [cough] Yeah or get glazed.
[Evelyn:] or, or paying the bit extra and have it double glazed.
[Arthur:] Yes but you can't open your windows in the summer.
[Evelyn:] Well you can with double glazing, some
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] but you can have vents.... But while our wood frames are in condition
[Arthur:] Yeah what sort of problem is it when you, say a kid broke the window like they broke ours, what sort of problem is it as opposed to these?
[Evelyn:] Well you get it done on the insurance, your insurance covers that.
[Arthur:] I don't mean that I mean it w is it a bigger job or s
[Evelyn:] Well of course it would be.
[Arthur:] Well then. That, you take that into consideration an'all.
[Evelyn:] If you get it done on the insurance I don't suppose people worry.
[Arthur:] There's always a debit side.
[Evelyn:] Anyway it's always... er... they're tougher than ordinary glass anyway, even if footballs do
[Arthur:] Mm. It's not footballs is it, it was er
[Evelyn:] Well stones or whatever.
[Arthur:] it was a stone or half a brick.... Or even somebody who went berserk with a hammer, that's been known.
[Evelyn:] Oh yeah I know....
[Arthur:] One thing they seem to be giving the skateboards a rest aren't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm....
[Arthur:] I mean how wh er how the parents can let them
[Evelyn:] Yes, yes but, but it's not the time
[Arthur:] come down three abreast I don't know.
[Evelyn:] of year for skateboards so you, that's no criteria is it?
[Arthur:] No but why, how parents can let
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] let them come down three abreast
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] and say that they've got, have every right to do it.
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] Well you wouldn't say that if you got knocked down and broke your thigh would you? Look at your dad, he died in three days.
[Evelyn:] No he didn't.... Three weeks.
[Arthur:] Well... three something or other.... Then there was your Aunt Nell, she, she broke her
[Evelyn:] [whispering] []
[Arthur:] Mm? What'd you say?
[Evelyn:] [whispering] []...
[Arthur:] I think it's a silly thing anyway... sit o lay on that with your nose er two inches from the pavement
[Evelyn:] Well... kids have different games don't they from
[Arthur:] That's not games it's annoyance, it's just I'll get it.
[Evelyn:] You go and get it.
[Arthur:] It's annoyance value.
[Evelyn:] No I don't want any more.
[Arthur:] that's what they do it for....
[Evelyn:] You go and get yourself another cup of tea then.... Before it gets cold. Have you got some slippers? Oh yes.
[Arthur:] Look when they kicked the ball at, they could quite as easily kicked it at tree.
[Evelyn:] Mm aye. Find me a bit of
[Arthur:] You know if they wan wanted to rebound it.
[Evelyn:] scrap paper while you're out there. Do they hurt? They look a bit tight across
[Arthur:] No slight they're very soft com
[Evelyn:] I know they're soft for the bedroom, take your cup!... I don't want any more, I've just had a chocolate and that's made me sick.... They're a bit sickly aren't they those chocolate w... Don't you think so?
[Arthur:] Yeah they're a bit too much a bit too much int they? I like, you know the old fashioned Fry's Cream, well Cadbury's used to make one like it only different coloured creams
[Evelyn:] Mm
[Arthur:] and they were lovely....
[Evelyn:] Well I think we've only got one box of chocolates left.... The rest are chocolate biscuits.
[Arthur:] Oh. I like Cadbury's creams
[Evelyn:] Well you can't get Cadbury's cream chocolates now so stop harping.
[Arthur:] [in another room]...
[Evelyn:] Well there isn't anything for them if they hadn't gone....
[Arthur:] Well it's not damaged the has it?
[Evelyn:] No I, I... dead-headed them today, you were going to do it yesterday but you didn't. So when I went to shut that gate after that
[Arthur:] They themselves now.
[Evelyn:] No they don't, they just die then
[Arthur:] Well I've seen them on the... l lawn so that
[Evelyn:] Well it's where I've
[Arthur:] Yeah it's like the wind and
[Evelyn:] clipped them off and the wind's blown the flowers from the corner. Wh when I went to shut the gate after that man had left it open I er I went round and dead-headed them all.
[Arthur:] I can't understand tradesmen, they come hoping for business
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] And leave your gate open [].
[Arthur:] and leave your gate wide open for the dogs to come in and, and tear your...
[Evelyn:] Plants.
[Arthur:] plants up.
[Evelyn:] Hmm.
[Arthur:] But I mean i it's beyond belief innit? If I wanted somebody to... buy what I'd got I'd be scrupulous about that, wouldn't you?
[Evelyn:] Well it's the people they employ, probably, not the people who are... who er...
[Arthur:] Do you, do you think
[Evelyn:] want the business.
[Arthur:] well if it's er if it's kids say, you know, youths... do they leave their own father's gate open like
[Evelyn:] They probably haven't got any.... I mean really when you look round here most people have taken the gates off haven't they?
[Arthur:] Yes. Oh w oh w er have to, up the top, you know those two... she said why don't you take your gates off like us, I said why should I? I said what do you have gates for if not to close them?... No point having a gate is there if you don't close it?...
[Evelyn:] Well they do it because they're lazy. They want to put their car, put, they want to drive
[Arthur:] No
[Evelyn:] straight in with their cars.
[Arthur:] it's deeper than that, they don't like what they see. If they don't like what they see they spoil it.... Watch the children today.... And they'll get worse....
[Evelyn:] Is that somebody's alarm ringing?... It's a bit wet isn't it?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] No it's a bell.... You listen, you go to the front and listen.... There's er there's er somebody's alarm ringing across the road....
[Arthur:] No nothing out there.
[Evelyn:] There is, I, I think it's two doors up...
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] where they had the burglaries.
[Arthur:] ... Could be a gas van. Oh they're all lit up across their car.
[Evelyn:] Yeah they do that now.... Put their lights on early. No they keep open till eight.... You go to the front door. You go to the front door but it's probably... next door but one the alarm went, go to the front door. It's not the fire.
[Arthur:] Yeah but listen.... Can hear it somewhere but, still it don't make a difference does it?
[Evelyn:] Not really.
[Arthur:] The lights have all gone.
[Evelyn:] Unless there's a van there
[Arthur:] The birds are all gone.
[Evelyn:] loading stuff on something....
[Arthur:] Well I've made a start in my painting it's on only roughing it a bit, I've brought a canvas down so don't muck it about.
[Evelyn:] Where have you put it?
[Arthur:] Just against your chair. I'm gonna lay it on the
[Evelyn:] What in the dining room?
[Arthur:] I'm gonna lay it on the board
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] and er... see how much I've got to, lay it down then
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] Think it's about a... inch top and bottom
[Evelyn:] What, too big or too small?
[Arthur:] I sha well I shall have to put bi bit in the you know?
[Evelyn:] Well you can make the trees a bit longer
[Arthur:] Well that's what I say, I shall put something behind it. . Ooh it's getting foggy over
[Evelyn:] Mm?
[Arthur:] the trees are disappearing.... Over there
[Evelyn:] Mm don't say
[Arthur:] near Ava's house look.
[Evelyn:] Oh yes. I think we're gonna have fog and frost to tomorrow again. But we'll have to go out.
[Arthur:] No, well... I've got my fog lamps on.
[Evelyn:] Oh I'm not going in the car in the fog.
[Arthur:] Well I ain't going out on that Fox again.
[Evelyn:] Well we'll go on the corporation buses.... You were alright on the Fox on Friday.
[Arthur:] I mean when they're full I've noticed when,we they were standing in the gangway.
[Evelyn:] We were the only two on Friday coming back from town.
[Arthur:] Oh I know,w when we were going we, I stood in the gangway alongside you and I could see, as they were swaying, people were... pushing onto other people who were sitting down.
[Evelyn:] Hmm!
[Arthur:] Well you don't want that do you?
[Evelyn:] Well we'll go on the corporation, wait for a corporation... you wouldn't wait for a corporation, I said wait, wait for the big bus.
[Arthur:] I mean if we go, we're sitting on the outside and invariably they're a bit over into the gangway... well if a chap kept pushing against us as the car went round corners... it wouldn't be very nice would it? Some might like it, some might object.
[Evelyn:] Well they wouldn't get on again if they objected would they?
[Arthur:] But I mean it could've been made a bit bigger than that couldn't it, for the seat
[Evelyn:] Well the new ones are a bit bigger.
[Arthur:] And there's nowhere to put your parcels, like you with
[Evelyn:] There is, the front seats.
[Arthur:] you with a broken arm.
[Evelyn:] Well there is the fr a front
[Arthur:] Aye,pu put wheelchairs in there don't they, for the kids?
[Evelyn:] Well not always, if you get yours in first.
[Arthur:] And then there's... there's dog dirt on the wheels and that goes on the, in th then that's
[Evelyn:] Oh don't be so
[Arthur:] transferred to your shopping. Your shopping's transferred it to the pantry.
[Evelyn:] Oh shut up!
[Arthur:] You go to the pantry, get on your hands... then you take it into the dining room... [break in recording]
[Evelyn:] It's not, it's a good game.
[Arthur:] It's alright for children. It's alright for children.
[Evelyn:] No! Grown ups do it!
[Arthur:] Yeah, think you...
[Evelyn:] It, it keeps your brain a bit active, you learn new words.
[Arthur:] Martin's always said I've got a too active brain many's the time.
[Evelyn:] Well you've got too thinking a brain now... some things.... How was our Cath?... You didn't put the kettle on did you?...
[Arthur:] No
[Evelyn:] You haven't left the kettle on, that's not whistling, no.
[Arthur:] that's not what I've done.
[Evelyn:] You have, you've mashed the tea!...
[Arthur:] Didn't you go out and look?
[Evelyn:] No I didn't, I only went in the hall for that paper.... [shouting] Lock the back door.... Arthur?... Tt have you locked the back door?
[Arthur:] Eh?
[Evelyn:] Have you locked the back door []?
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] Oh.... You can do a bit more to your drawing while I'm looking at Countdown, do you want to? Yeah, put the table up then.... [yawning] Oh! Ooh dear []... [break in recording] Well do it on the canvas, after all that was
[Arthur:] What it was for. [speaking from another room]
[Evelyn:] what I bought it for.... When will you start painting?... [cough] Oh I do feel weary, I hope I'm not going to have the flu.
[Arthur:] Well I felt, that's how I felt and you said
[Evelyn:] I told you that. I felt weary this afternoon
[Arthur:] You know what it is, it's the worry of that.
[Evelyn:] No it isn't!
[Arthur:] Well it's bound to take
[Evelyn:] I had a bad night last night.
[Arthur:] It's bound to take it out of you....
[Evelyn:] Countdown was quite good today.... Arthur?
[Arthur:] Oh aye?
[Evelyn:] Er Carole Vorderman, she's not getting a chance to... do the figures. I, I think everybody's catching up to her methods like I am. So she got two, two words better than
[Arthur:] Yeah mm.
[Evelyn:] either the contestants or the er dictionary judges. So... she scored on that line.... I think we'll look at the news in a few minutes to see what the weather's going to be... and then, do you want any ice cream or anything?... Or a drink?...
[Arthur:] No I...
[Evelyn:] Just get a, are you ready for an ice cream or later? Later?... What about holidays?... Yes but... this time we usually book that April holiday about January.... I know but in April you've got to take a chance.... I could do with one now I think.... Are you coming to look at the news?
[Arthur:] No.... [break in recording]
[Evelyn:] We saw that Jack the Ripper didn't we?
[Arthur:] Yeah it's been on so many times.
[Evelyn:] Yes it was on Sky last year. So the only thing
[Arthur:] And it's not as good as the real story.
[Evelyn:] No.... So the only thing er we're interested in is in er... Some Mothers Do Have Them, seven thirty.
[Arthur:] Oh er yeah and
[Evelyn:] And the Falklands on Four.
[Arthur:] and well and there's mink a a about those
[Evelyn:] Ooh I don't want to see that thing.
[Arthur:] Yes i i ke f... er
[Evelyn:] Animals, yes.
[Arthur:] it follows after it.
[Evelyn:] Is it?
[Arthur:] We can see the two.
[Evelyn:] Falklands is at nine
[Arthur:] And this is eight thirty.
[Evelyn:] oh Wildlife on One.
[Arthur:] Eight thirty.
[Evelyn:] I don't like to see those er mink
[Arthur:] Well it's life innit?
[Evelyn:] I know but erm
[Arthur:] You'd like mink if somebody gave it to you.
[Evelyn:] I shouldn't, not these days.... I rather think that's a, a repeat, I seem to re remember seeing it because er didn't a lot of them escape and they've
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] sort of bred all over the country?
[Arthur:] Over the country....
[Evelyn:] Well I'll perhaps go and have a bath then. Have you had a shave yet?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] You know what Mr said.
[Arthur:] Yes. And the car, I've put the car out.
[Evelyn:] When you're retired, shave every day.... So it looks as though we'll be able to go shopping tomorrow by the weather forecast.
[Arthur:] Yeah, good-oh.
[Evelyn:] Okay?
[Arthur:] Take the er picture with us
[Evelyn:] And we'll take the marmalade. Are you going to take that to Madge's and show
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] the picture
[Arthur:] Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] But remind me
[Arthur:] I had it for
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Oh yes []. No remind me to get some jars.
[Arthur:] Have you seen Forg Fergie
[Evelyn:] Yes, I don't think she looks nice like that.
[Arthur:] She looks thinner though.
[Evelyn:] Oh she's a lot thinner but... She's smoking to get thin. I think that's what Cathy used to do... cos she used to get tubby, hasn't she?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And then she'd suddenly go thinner and I'm sure it was when she started smoking again.... Have you looked in the garage for your slippers?
[Arthur:] No they, they must be there, I w I know I went in there....
[Evelyn:] Well are you ready for your ice cream now?
[Arthur:] Went in to look for the seeds so I m I might have changed, just gone, I dunno.
[Evelyn:] Are you ready for ice cream yet?
[Arthur:] Yes you can do if you want to get rid of it.
[Evelyn:] I don't want to get rid of it!
[Arthur:] Well you know what I mean
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] get it over with.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Get it over with []. Don't think I feel like anything to eat after that late lunch.... But I thought you'd read that paper this morning?
[Arthur:] Not
[Evelyn:] Well where's your glasses?... Mm?... You ought to wear them you know.... Did you s see the end of the news? Er a stronger virus er...
[Arthur:] What for?
[Evelyn:] for flu has been found and they
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] think it might lead to a, an epidemic, mm.
[Arthur:] Well,s I thought it was tending that way....
[Evelyn:] No this is a stronger strain apparently and er they're a bit worried.... I don't think I've ever had the real flu.... I think you did years ago, that time, the only once... you had the doctor....
[Arthur:] Oh bad though wasn't it?
[Evelyn:] Mm
[Arthur:] I had a fortnight of it didn't I?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Ma Madge said she had the real flu because she ached all over and... really weak.... But I've never had it... like that, it's, touch wood I never do.... I've not seen Les today, have you?
[Arthur:] No, perhaps,perh
[Evelyn:] I wonder how he
[speaker001:] What's for breakfast? [cough]
[Evelyn:] I dunno, what you want poached egg or egg and bacon?
[Arthur:] mm, poached egg, no poached egg I'll do
[Evelyn:] and tomato, now drink that because I don't think we shall be able to go out today with the frost and the fog, the, you've got that on your chest and I've got a hurt throat
[Arthur:] actually its there when I cough
[Evelyn:] well finish this off
[Arthur:] no I don't want any more
[Evelyn:] finish that, finish that off... what, have this
[Arthur:] your like a mother to me you are
[Evelyn:] I need to be
[Arthur:] ooh
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] [sniff]
[Evelyn:] well it, well it'll have to be our voices again on this because things being what they are we can't er, we can't go out to Cath's today with your cold and my bad throat
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] in the fog and frost so, perhaps they just be content with our voices
[Arthur:] turn on, mm when she coming then tomorrow?
[Evelyn:] Friday
[Arthur:] oh well might be a chance to, gone on
[speaker001:] But it did over the shops and over
[Arthur:] The trouble is in er just outside
[Evelyn:] and you couldn't see
[Arthur:] the heat from the town lamps and things
[Evelyn:] well I know it says from the Midlands freezing fog, so were not going out in it... so I can
[Arthur:] mm, pitch black
[Evelyn:] we can have a steam meat pudding today, cos I'll have to leave that on
[Arthur:] I don't think I'll want much really
[Evelyn:] oh you will after that, that, later...
[Arthur:] When he came home he was messing about on pavement for quite a while, I was, I thought somebody was trying to get in, you know
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] I stood and watched for a minute or two...
[Evelyn:] well his dustbin wasn't there cos the little lad took it in yesterday
[Arthur:] mm...
[Evelyn:] perhaps he was just admiring his new car
[Arthur:] mm, possibly...
[Evelyn:] unless he was looking around and see if it had been bumped in the night
[Arthur:] mm... he'd not put it on the drive this time
[Evelyn:] didn't he?, perhaps he's going to take his wife to work
[Arthur:] mm, mm
[Evelyn:] perhaps waiting for all the kids to school first... perhaps can't see to do it in the dark
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] don't seem a very good driver does he?... now, are you going to do any painting this morning?
[Arthur:] er it's up to you what do you want me to do?
[Evelyn:] no, all I want you to do if you're up to it, is get me cooker hood thing off, so I can clean it, it's not been cleaned since before Christmas
[Arthur:] what the whole thing or just the top?
[Evelyn:] just the, so we can put the new filter in, only they... fret wants cleaning, I can do that, if you'll get up and undo it for me...
[Arthur:] I think I, get up and go the thing
[Evelyn:] go where?, huh... I, I had an awful night again, I didn't get to sleep till about one or two, I'm not going to go to bed early again
[Arthur:] what didn't you have?
[Evelyn:] mm?
[Arthur:] what er I, I didn't want to get up this morning
[Evelyn:] I don't know, you were up at six, just after.... Just that shoulder still hurt? keep rubbing it
[Arthur:] mm, just I just rub it down and to keep it moving... [cough]... another salt for a week or two in it, the icy roads, bound to put salt down aren't they?
[Evelyn:] no, you get obsessed with that
[Arthur:] that cow I'll run down the stairs quick enough when the signal comes, salter's away... seemed to love throwing it out don't they?.... Er what made me smile when they found out that the salt were going through these er motorway bridges and attacking the steel work in the concrete... with all sort of powers that they would of known that wouldn't ya?
[Evelyn:] mm [cough]...
[Arthur:] damage it must do over the country
[Evelyn:] do you want some marmalade?
[Arthur:] no, not
[Evelyn:] I've got some more toast in the kitchen, I'll fetch it in... Have you put the fire down?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] I was going to say it was a bit light... you don't want to get too hot
[Arthur:] all the girls told me that
[Evelyn:] mm
[speaker001:] ...
[Arthur:] [cough]... well used to go Isle of Man and that, and Bury's at Lewiston, where it's been dead now two or three year now, ain't they?
[Evelyn:] mm... What do you want for a sweet?
[Arthur:] Nothing particular
[Evelyn:] I've got mince pies
[Arthur:] ooh
[Evelyn:] bananas and custard those, those bananas are going a bit
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] well I like them when they go soft
[Arthur:] I'll have the paper I think, just read
[Evelyn:] now are you having marmalade, I'm going to fetch it now
[Arthur:] yeah, but, yeah it's stic sticky
[Evelyn:] it's not sticky and if you get it all over you... [cough] shows how cold it must of been in the night, the butter won't spread
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] well it usually keeps quite soft on, that kitchen table, near the boiler... where d'ya want them?, sit up...
[Arthur:] you want that?... I don't want marmalade on it, I do have butter.
[Evelyn:] I think this time of the year the mornings seem to get darker
[Arthur:] I want some sort of phraseology that as the nights get lighter the mornings get dark
[Evelyn:] could be
[Arthur:] or is it the reverse?
[Evelyn:] no, I don't think so, well I think... if I feel like it, after I've done me cooker hood, I might do a bit of baking
[Arthur:] some cake
[Evelyn:] make a pudding, no I think I'll make some little, I've got some oat meal and you don't like the porridge from it so I'll make some little
[Arthur:] cakes, oat meal cakes
[Evelyn:] oat meal and treacle crunchies, you like those don't you?
[Arthur:] mm, did you like it yourself?
[Evelyn:] I didn't have porridge and I
[Arthur:] it was all greasy
[Evelyn:] well that was the milk
[Arthur:] I know
[Evelyn:] it was the cream of the milk, well you used to like it, well sort of, some people make it with water, that's why I made it all milk, are you going to try it again with water? and just a drop of milk on top well that's er, er sort of oat meal, porridge, why I use it to make some oat meal crunchies
[Arthur:] even the birds don't eat it...
[Evelyn:] well I've given it to the birds in the past when I've had
[Arthur:] try
[Evelyn:] nothing else
[Arthur:] try them an all
[Evelyn:] didn't they eat it?
[Arthur:] it's to small for one thing in it to pick up?
[Evelyn:] well you can't give the birds much bread today, because I haven't got a white loaf, I'm not going to give 'em this expensive whole meal bread
[Arthur:] er, doesn't milkie comes by?
[Evelyn:] yes, but it's not his day to bring bread
[Arthur:] oh, he might have one on
[Evelyn:] I'm not paying that price, he charges about twice as much, it's seventy nine P
[Arthur:] he has to bring it twice as much
[Evelyn:] in the shops it's about forty five...
[Arthur:] I'll go across in the car, fetch a paper and me loaf if you like
[Evelyn:] no you're not going, look I thought you said you've got it on your chest?
[Arthur:] I'll put me coat on for a start
[Evelyn:] well you didn't put your coat on the other day when you went for the paper
[Arthur:] I know
[Evelyn:] and that's where you've got this cold from
[Arthur:] I was out there in er, and I suddenly thought I'd er go
[Evelyn:] yes, and look what you've done for yourself now
[Arthur:] well I have er been in the garden, going up the garden
[Evelyn:] well you wouldn't be in the garden would you without a coat or a, wind sheeter on, it's silly.
[Arthur:] It looks as if my galloping days are over in it?
[Evelyn:] why?... well you've got to conserve your strength at your age
[Arthur:] not throw it away
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] yes, you've messed your hair up ain't ya?
[Evelyn:] oh, I've not done it yet this morning
[speaker001:] ...
[Evelyn:] I'm gonna have to have some honey for my throat, honey and lemon [cough] I think I've got a big wide hoarser on me back
[Arthur:] m
[Evelyn:] looked in the mirror, it looked as though it was
[Arthur:] what on your, those moles like?
[Evelyn:] yes, no, on, on the back of me throat
[Arthur:] oh your throat... it's perhaps where you're shouting in the kitchen
[Evelyn:] oh...
[Arthur:] you'll have an easy day then if you're not too good
[Evelyn:] ah, I've just got to do some cooking, bit of cleaning
[Arthur:] I don't suppose there's a film on is there?
[Evelyn:] I don't know, I've not looked at the programmes, there's Churchill tonight at nine thirty, must look at that
[Arthur:] part some didn't trust him did they?
[Evelyn:] oh, any body in high position you always have critics and... have to be a bit ruthless at times, I expect. Have you wound that clock up?, it looks a bit slow to me compared with the others...
[Arthur:] two and a half, yeah, go quite, yeah tis going
[Evelyn:] it is going, it wants winding up, I can tell...
[Arthur:] yes, it's nearly down
[Evelyn:] [cough] do you want another cup of tea?
[Arthur:] no more, ta...
[Evelyn:] you don't put enough tea in, milk in my tea first thing in the morning... is that right?
[Arthur:] when there's time you er one, two
[Evelyn:] no I never say there's too much milk
[Arthur:] three now, three now
[Evelyn:] I'm going to have another cup.
[Arthur:] yeah near enough...
[Evelyn:] Have you had any whisky in your tea yet? whisky in
[Arthur:] no I didn't know whether we were going out or not
[Evelyn:] well you've just heard the forecast, if it's freezing fog, were not going out
[Arthur:] what day did you say it is?
[Evelyn:] it's Wednesday today all day... I thought you were going to get on with your painting?
[Arthur:] maybe
[Evelyn:] see what's on this afternoon, I shan't look up any thing this morning, unless there's a cookery programme on... we both did a lemon
[Arthur:] well you could show them how to go on
[Evelyn:] the both I T V and B B C, both did a lemon pudding yesterday, about the same, I might make one one day, it was easy recipe, new one...
[Arthur:] a western adventure on sky movies, ten o'clock till twelve
[Evelyn:] I'm not very interested in that and in any case I wouldn't be able to... look at it, I'll be getting the dinner...
[Arthur:] ten too two Oaklahoma
[Evelyn:] I thought you said Oaklahoma was on yesterday, are you looking at the right page?
[Arthur:] Tuesday
[Evelyn:] it's Wednesday today
[Arthur:] you said Tuesday
[Evelyn:] I didn't I said Wednesday... you're always getting the wrong programmes
[Arthur:] perhaps it was the sight permanent ones sometimes you, you turn the page over
[Evelyn:] sky,ye yes, well sky's right at the end of Wednesday's programmes in that one no he's a bit too...
[Arthur:] Chef's programme, ten ten minutes to ten
[Evelyn:] ten to ten what, what is it on the chef's programme?, I've never looked at it, but
[Arthur:] hot pot and Devonshire squall pigeon
[Evelyn:] oh I don't want pigeon... [cough] looks as I'll have to clean the brasses this week
[Arthur:] why?
[Evelyn:] well they're looking a bit dull
[Arthur:] want me to put the mop on?
[Evelyn:] no, it's too cold for you to go in the garage, don't want to get pneumonia do ya?...
[Arthur:] Blood From The Mummies Tomb
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] Laurel And Hardy
[Evelyn:] no, I never cared for them... put your glasses on instead of squinting
[Arthur:] Fool and Horses that's a
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] lead on horses in't it Fool and Horses?
[Evelyn:] no it isn't
[Arthur:] bet the horses are smart
[Evelyn:] oh it's not my type... mm Penny's having to wait a long while for her birthday isn't she?, I thought Cath might of come round, but
[Arthur:] who Cath?
[Evelyn:] well she know's I've got b, Penny's birthday present here
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] and as we haven't been able to get round
[Arthur:] well perhaps she'll get round, I'd better tidy up first then in case
[Evelyn:] no don't mind, it's unlikely what, she won't want to come out in weather like this, oh she, she
[Arthur:] you know that film where where ten little Indians where they all, and each one gets
[Evelyn:] yes Agatha Christies
[Arthur:] killed
[Evelyn:] well that, that's a spoof on it, it's not
[Arthur:] oh
[Evelyn:] it's not the real Agatha Christie... but that's a bit dated I think now [cough]
[Arthur:] oh there's one on about quarter past six
[Evelyn:] what's that?
[Arthur:] Bull Shit
[Evelyn:] phew do what
[Arthur:] Bull, Bull Shot
[Evelyn:] oh you are horrible
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER] a bit shreddie
[Evelyn:] who's in it?
[Arthur:] er well that's what it means, it's a nice way of putting it
[Evelyn:] oh well well we don't want
[Arthur:] Bull Shit
[Evelyn:] that, I don't like that language
[Arthur:] [reading] Philip Bruin-Ridges comedy, ploughed in the adventure of radio hero, Bull Dog Drummund [], that's why it's called Bull Shot
[Evelyn:] oh, no, not for me...
[Arthur:] [reading] The Dancing Pirate, musical set in a Mexican village beset by pirates, five to one, Search For Tomorrow []
[Evelyn:] well that's probably five to one in the morning then
[Arthur:] oh yeah [reading] one twenty P M afternoon cinnamon The Dancing Pirate, a musical set in a Mexican village []
[Evelyn:] mm, doesn't sound all that good does it?
[Arthur:] [reading] Dick Van Dyke [] we have a look at him what, what does he do?
[Evelyn:] well that's that er... mm... he was in Mary Poppins
[Arthur:] oh in what, he had a programme every week
[Evelyn:] yes Bewitched, Bewitched is the programme he's normally in
[Arthur:] oh is he?
[Evelyn:] or was in, I don't know and didn't the male er, lead?... dunno how you can read that without glasses, I can't
[Arthur:] I thought it was I thought it was er
[Evelyn:] he was in Mary Poppins and
[Arthur:] The Falklands again...
[Evelyn:] I think you said it was on channel four that will be, in the morning if you look at, look at channel four programme and get your glasses... cos if you miss it Monday night you said you could have it
[Arthur:] [reading] two o'clock P M [] would that be in the morning?
[Evelyn:] no, course it wouldn't, P M's afternoon, you know that
[Arthur:] yeah sometimes they
[Evelyn:] no, you're looking in the wrong, you look at the pr, if
[Arthur:] Arabian, Arabian Nights
[Evelyn:] no I don't like Arabian Nights
[Arthur:] what made me think you see it's right at the top where the morning then
[Evelyn:] well, no, yes well... that's only morning, that's morning after midnight
[Arthur:] well Arabian Nights
[Evelyn:] well you, oh no, well you can... I'm going in the kitchen
[speaker001:] I've just switched this on again
[Arthur:] which?
[Evelyn:] the microphone, are you going to have any cider vinegar on it?
[Arthur:] yes I'll have some
[Evelyn:] or, or you going to have some honey and whisky and lemon?
[Arthur:] which do you think should I
[Evelyn:] well how's your chest?, does it still fell raw?
[Arthur:] mm not now, now I've had summat to eat and
[Evelyn:] oh, what you going to try some of this or wait for your whisky and lemon?
[Arthur:] wait for whisky and lemon...
[Evelyn:] It's a murky day again.... That cooker hood was filthy, must of been all the Christmas shopping... cooking I mean... I think I'll put the new filter on, I'll have a go any way [cough]... [cough]...
[speaker001:] After all that trauma... of fixing it in, you'd better have some whisky and honey hadn't you?
[Arthur:] Mm
[Evelyn:] eh?
[Arthur:] yes please...
[Evelyn:] Jackie said these cooker hoods are not
[Arthur:] very good
[Evelyn:] well they're alright, but I mean you can tell they take the grease out of the kitchen, but, they're a bit of a bind aren't they?... of all the cleaning and... I mean I don't see why the people who make them don't sell the blimming proper filter to filter themselves instead we don't have
[Arthur:] well we change it, then we used to then the same yet, we've, we've had
[Evelyn:] I mean where you buy the, the thing from you'd think the seldom, the spares as you want them about every four months
[Arthur:] oh, well they're selling the thing in't they?
[Evelyn:] yeah that's not right is it?, in fact I wrote to them and last year and er give me a Birmingham address, they might, oh
[Arthur:] could of, when you, hundred quid for something ain't ya?
[Evelyn:] mm, are you going to drink that?
[Arthur:] well I'll try, gotta finalize it see...
[Evelyn:] is it complete now?
[Arthur:] oh yeah, just a matter of fi, finding out what does what and
[Evelyn:] right I'll get your coffee, no I'll get your honey and whisky I'm waiting for the hot water, mm
[Arthur:] I'm looking for a nut erm, for this, so you know hold it in position [cough], found one, while I'll looking I found this and it's just the job
[Evelyn:] oh
[Arthur:] just screw it down the
[Evelyn:] brains, brains
[Arthur:] job... oh dear a mess in the kitchen
[speaker001:] ...
[Evelyn:] no
[speaker001:] ...
[Evelyn:] oh... oh, remind me at half past eleven, flap jacks will be done, don't forget, I've hurt my leg now.... After all that trauma I think I deserve this do you?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] I think so, just about, now put those slippers on Arthur, you've got a cold coming... now you drink it while it's hot, that's a good lad... oh I've put the pudding on now, so it'll have to steam for about two hours at least two and a half
[Arthur:] yeah,
[Evelyn:] so it'll give you a bit of time to do your painting now won't it?
[Arthur:] it looked professional look
[Evelyn:] mm... I be, oh you ain't rubbed out, I thought you'd rubbed out what you did yesterday
[Arthur:] no would of drawn that, I would of checked it with the
[Evelyn:] oh, huh
[Arthur:] if the was up, it's
[Evelyn:] it's right
[Arthur:] carry on
[Evelyn:] size, that make it easier?
[Arthur:] well bound to make it right, I don't know about easier, it'd be right wouldn't it?
[Evelyn:] I don't know
[Arthur:] mind you with cottage, I've painted big cottage on the stage and, I only looked at it on me bike as I went through Salver
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] I mean any body can draw a house in it?, and put some straw on it
[Evelyn:] it's the first thing kids do, draw, when
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] when they're at school [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] windows looking it up
[Evelyn:] I can, I can remember the first drawing, you used to draw a house and you
[Arthur:] you know what I did at four in the nursery?
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] two inch long with a yellow crayon, my mate Dick in, er a Zeppelin, there were some cottages and a Zeppelin, and er, we, we coming over some blue and he said er, he said what's the blue and I said the sea, well then, it, it behind land, well I said you have to cross the sea, you know down
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] like, you know at that age I knew they had to go across the sea....
[Evelyn:] You don't want any thing to eat with it do ya?
[Arthur:] You see even then they were interesting in me, my, me drawing, the little kids weren't drawing, and I just, you know, playing with the crayons
[Evelyn:] Arthur
[Arthur:] what?, what?
[Evelyn:] what was I going to say? forget now
[Arthur:] you was gonna put that on weren't ya or something?
[Evelyn:] yes I know, I was just going to say can't think
[Arthur:] have you put it on?
[Evelyn:] yes... well... do you want any thing to eat with that drink?
[Arthur:] no nothing particular. What would you like to do today?
[Evelyn:] well I'm still cooking aren't I?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] tis er, I can see why Joan's...
[Arthur:] not getting mixed up
[Evelyn:] not, no I can see why she don't like to cook all that much it's a dirty job really
[Arthur:] is it?
[Evelyn:] well makes your kitchen messy doesn't it?
[Arthur:] oh well not only that you've got to fetch the potatoes, peel them, then cut them in pieces
[Evelyn:] no, I, I mean these flap jacks I'm making
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] and... she just likes every thing just spick and span, all in the right place. Stop rubbing that eye now wear your glasses
[Arthur:] I've been grinding the pencil, saw dust
[Evelyn:] well, well that's a silly thing... you should if, if you're grinding you should wear your, some specs
[Arthur:] s' pose
[Evelyn:] even old one's to keep the dust out of your eyes [cough] my throat still feels raw, how's your chest then
[Arthur:] have a whisky then
[Evelyn:] no I don't
[Arthur:] you don't want a cough thinking about it
[Evelyn:] mm, hurting across your chest, pain gone?
[Arthur:] pain there, but, since I've got up it don't, don't do it
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] perhaps catarrh, phlegm like
[Evelyn:] I've got catarrh, in fact I had to get up in the night and put some there
[Arthur:] oh I didn't hear you
[Evelyn:] no you were fast asleep in about two
[Arthur:] why didn't you wake me?
[Evelyn:] I thought I was waking you when I was tossing about...
[Arthur:] [cough] you used to wake me in the middle of the night when we were first married
[Evelyn:] I dunno, I you must of been dead to the world, what with working
[Arthur:] I wish we could start again, don't you?
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] not really
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] all this digging and that and sh stage shows and... Joe tried
[Evelyn:] I'd better go and turn that gas down
[Arthur:] Joe tried times to get me over erm, yeah Mrs
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Arthur:] used to go to, do her drama didn't she?...
[Evelyn:] don't forget, remind me at half past eleven those flap jacks
[Arthur:] yeah... should of screwed that, I've just thought... oh do what, is it still performing?
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] don't want to knock it over
[Evelyn:] well where's your picture?
[Arthur:] I don't want it yet, I've got to set it up
[Evelyn:] oh I see... is that the paper we bought from that shop?
[Arthur:] yeah, I got the
[Evelyn:] fancy forgetting to get that card yesterday
[Arthur:] I've got the other side, I thought about it in town, I thought next year I will
[Evelyn:] well if you'd of put it at the top of the basket, I would of seen it
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] and remembered, I mean when we went to the, get the meat, we were near the shop, we'd only just got to go down
[Arthur:] to there
[Evelyn:] Carts Lane...
[Arthur:] cor I've done the wrong one's surely it's not fitting into that
[Evelyn:] I'll leave you to fathom that out I know you don't like me in the room when your fathomering things out you see, you see you're sneezing again... been in that cold garage, I told you, did you have the fire on?
[Arthur:] er bit low, feels on fire
[Evelyn:] now put those slippers on, that, if you get your feet cold that gives you... put those slippers on
[Arthur:] alright...
[Evelyn:] just brought us a free sample of that erm freeze dried instant tea
[Arthur:] can you do it?
[Evelyn:] well, oh you're supposed to have four cups... I'll er... I'll use it one day and not tell you and see if you can tell the difference shall I?... Those bricks of seemed to be holding them from better place from the springs we couldn't find aren't they?
[Arthur:] what the
[Evelyn:] you know I used to sort of bellow out
[Arthur:] bellow out yes, well the, the wind, the wind, the hand will blow the light springs up eventually... perhaps I'll put, when I've made some true er, perhaps I would put six inch pieces in instead of any
[Evelyn:] oh it's alright, er I thought this was a nice bottle, but it's a foil bag, look
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] that's it, they say in, you know what they've done, they've left the gate wide open again
[Arthur:] oh did they?
[Evelyn:] I'll have, I'll have to go out and shut it
[Arthur:] they wonder why you don't want to buy, in the, they must see the flowers there mustn't they?
[Evelyn:] yes... another cleaning offer, half price... should we have these carpets cleaned?
[Arthur:] mm? [sniff], no... they'll be back where they was weren't they?
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] you rubbing round and in case under all the furniture we don't tread...
[Evelyn:] oh another offer, hand cream, Neutragone, Neutragena... don't give you much as a sample, oh highly concentrated...
[speaker001:] ...
[Evelyn:] two to three applications
[Arthur:] there's black
[Evelyn:] on the railings look...
[Arthur:] gone, now, see
[Evelyn:] I don't know how you can see with that curtains pulled like that, why's it, shall I pull it back?
[Arthur:] eh?
[Evelyn:] what's the mat, look I've just trod on two grapes there
[Arthur:] oh sor
[Evelyn:] that's why I say we want the carpets cleaning...
[Arthur:] It's you know, what you used to like...
[Evelyn:] That's it you can spitting your grape pips on the top if I'd er been, I've picked up
[Arthur:] yeah, they fell out me they probably fell out me hand
[Evelyn:] oh yes that's a good excuse... is it alright?
[Arthur:] what?
[Evelyn:] your paint a graph, is it working?
[Arthur:] well it's, well I'll fix it
[Evelyn:] or haven't you finished it off yet
[Arthur:] no, I'm finishing off the bits that are left...
[Evelyn:] mm, like every thing else... you told me you'd finished it the other day
[Arthur:] well I have, I'm making adjustments, what I mean, what I'd finished it, I didn't bother to try it cos it didn't work, now I found out why it don't work... I have to change the rod, I've got the rod in the wrong place
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] so I had to go and put a thread on... and put it in, it in another place
[Evelyn:] use your glasses, do you want another drink?
[Arthur:] oh yeah keep coming
[Evelyn:] no you're not having too much
[Arthur:] why?...
[Evelyn:] well, I don't know whether that man over there is cleaning the windows or whether he's having to look at the double glazing again
[Arthur:] probably burglars...
[Evelyn:] well, he was there yesterday, apparently he's must have a complaint on the double glazing... wouldn't be cleaning windows two days would he?
[Arthur:] wouldn't of thought so, it's near enough dry, now
[Evelyn:] do you want it hot or, or with dry ginger?
[Arthur:] er dry ginger would be nice
[Evelyn:] oh you can have it hot
[Arthur:] dry ginger, yes
[Evelyn:] well I'll give you dry ginger this time.... Flap jacks don't appear to be cooked and yet they've been in the time they should have, I don't know what's happened, there you are there's your drink... don't knock it over
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] put it that side... so where is your
[Arthur:] oh I'll get it, it's all mucked up in it, gotta clean the shed next thing...
[Evelyn:] I thought you always kept it in here... oh
[Arthur:] yeah, but
[Evelyn:] mm?
[Arthur:] don't get enough heat from there...
[Evelyn:] it says leave it for ten minutes so I expect it er hardens now
[speaker001:] What do you think to the pudding?
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] Would you sooner of had a pie?
[Arthur:] oh no I like pudding, pie it's a bit dry in it?
[Evelyn:] not really, always have more gravy, didn't, I didn't think the meat was as good, you didn't either and I went to another butcher because I thought it
[Arthur:] you had to break it to bits to eat it
[Evelyn:] no you didn't, shin of beef is like that, but
[Arthur:] too much shin on it
[Evelyn:] don't be silly, no I thought it looked better at this other bit, this butcher's, it looked leaner, but erm... it wasn't perhaps, perhaps I didn't cook it enough yesterday, drink your drink
[Arthur:] yeah...
[Evelyn:] but I've got some left of that beef, so
[Arthur:] throw it away then
[Evelyn:] I'm not going to throw it away, it's too expensive to throw away, no I'll cook it a bit more and do a... do a curry, rice... or spaghetti
[Arthur:] make a meat pie and take it to Cath's
[Evelyn:] why should I take it to Cath's? that was when I burnt my arm
[Arthur:] come on and put your feet up you've done enough
[Evelyn:] I'm gonna put me feet up for a few minutes, do you want now we've nearly finished?
[Arthur:] mm?
[Evelyn:] I say I'll put me feet up before we wash up
[Arthur:] I'll wash up you sit there
[Evelyn:] no you needn't
[Arthur:] have the birds gone?
[Evelyn:] yes, twenty four pigeons it's too many
[Arthur:] out there?
[Evelyn:] no... no the starlings seem to be pecking away at the top... slabs are getting dry so I don't know, er you see that man's still up there, I wonder what he's doing up there at the side
[Arthur:] has he got a ladder?
[Evelyn:] well he wouldn't, don't take all that long to put guttering up does it?... unless he's pointing the bricks up, he was there all day yesterday
[Arthur:] perhaps the
[Evelyn:] oh I see what you mean...
[Arthur:] any way that's his problem
[Evelyn:] oh I, yeah
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] are you going to do any drawing or painting?, are you fed up with it?
[Arthur:] no, it's I'll go
[Evelyn:] rest
[Arthur:] and get on with me, you know the board I made?
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] behind the drawing pins
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] this, this little board there's no room to work here
[Evelyn:] oh that's why you bought the big board
[Arthur:] yeah I know, but I
[Evelyn:] you know where your drawing pins are?
[Arthur:] I tried it but the paper was stuck down, stuck down already
[Evelyn:] look there's the drawing pins
[Arthur:] mm leave them there though
[Evelyn:] out, in this cupboard?
[Arthur:] mm...
[Evelyn:] I should like something nice to finish off with
[Arthur:] take your skirt of then
[Evelyn:] don't be silly
[Arthur:] mm, ain't that nice?
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] I thought it was
[Evelyn:] do you want half this orange?
[Arthur:] I'll have a bit then if you're not gonna eat it
[Evelyn:] cos the big ones are too big, big aren't they these are...
[Arthur:] how is it that we forbid how is it that were still...
[Evelyn:] I've only just put it on
[Arthur:] oh... are they different oranges?
[Evelyn:] no they're Morroc but they're
[Arthur:] they are
[Evelyn:] but they're a bigger size and thicker skinned, I'd sooner have the smaller ones
[Arthur:] you don't see blood oranges now do ya?
[Evelyn:] you do sometimes... these are the best Morroc's, but, same, the stall I go to doesn't stand on Tuesdays... only Wednesdays and Fridays and Saturdays, here are...
[Arthur:] don't get juice all over it
[Evelyn:] I shan't get juice all over every where, it'll be you.... Well Made your Barbara's on at two o'clock, are you going to see that?
[Arthur:] mm, I might as well
[Evelyn:] you've got to be quick though
[Arthur:] what time now?
[Evelyn:] it's nearly that now, are you going to change
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] mm?, you better, they're your old trousers aren't they?, I mean
[Arthur:] well with Clare and
[speaker001:] ...
[Evelyn:] look at all the pigeons again... do you want to have a bit more?, nice aren't they?, sit up, sit up... these are juicy aren't they?... must still be very cold outside, can you see the steam from the boiler?
[Arthur:] mm... where was that fog on freezing roads?...
[Evelyn:] I'm glad we've got the cooker hood done, you can see all that black
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] can't never that filter to be like that have you?...
[Arthur:] ah, I've put you a three eight, wide eight thick piece of steel lay it on the top that would hold it down in the middle
[Evelyn:] well those hack saw blades do, don't they?
[Arthur:] mm, just hold it down and
[Evelyn:] I mean I think so
[Arthur:] that spring didn't work the one we had did it? cos it
[Evelyn:] I think those springs are, are dangerous, they shoot up and down on
[Arthur:] came flying out when out in't it, when we put it in?
[Evelyn:] mm...
[Arthur:] now we know
[Evelyn:] I mean
[Arthur:] it won't fly out when it's inside
[Evelyn:] that's what I mean, as you were putting it in it, it shot out didn't it?
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] last time.... Not much on these potatoes I've not had any today, just had one little bit, do, do you like 'em?...
[Arthur:] one thin strip of metal edge ways on across the centre I'd do it won't it?, that thing
[Evelyn:] would it?
[Arthur:] well you've got all the size pattern down
[Evelyn:] well your the expert
[Arthur:] in that across
[Evelyn:] well that, that spring you got was too thick
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] too wide, wasn't it?, it was wider than the, the thing itself, so you want, it's got to be cut down width wise...
[Arthur:] you know how according to the thick, the.. bull clip last time, you had a lot of cause didn't ya?
[Evelyn:] ah but on, you know the new diagram, the new packet, the springs went like dia er
[Arthur:] diamond
[Evelyn:] half a diamond shape
[Arthur:] yeah what you really want is a
[Evelyn:] and on one side and yet inside the instructions it gave, you know
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] two curves
[Arthur:] yes well I've been thinking about it, what you want is a...
[Evelyn:] well we paid about three pounds for those springs
[Arthur:] springs?
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] when do you ever buy
[Evelyn:] when we bought them, when we had the first lot of springs
[Arthur:] oh I we haven't got them now that's before
[Evelyn:] you must have, must be in me diary
[Arthur:] well any way look, if I made you a thin bit of steel straight across the centre like that
[Evelyn:] yes, that would
[Arthur:] it's thicker than hack saw blade, perhaps a bit heavier
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] straight across and then put a cross on the other way that's all you want
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] like that
[Evelyn:] mm, I know
[Arthur:] like hack, hack saw blades sort of thing
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] edge ways on
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] not flat because you stop the air from, to that simple enough
[Evelyn:] where you going to get the spring from?
[Arthur:] steel
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] oh I've got a load of that back of the car...
[Evelyn:] Is this too hot with the fire on?
[Arthur:] no I'm alright...
[Evelyn:] is that the boiler making that noise?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] seems to be louder than usual, don't it?
[Arthur:] or it's your fan
[Evelyn:] I thought I'd turn the fan on
[Arthur:] your fan?
[Evelyn:] I know I thought I'd turned it off, I'm going to have a look, something seems to be making a noise... it was the vent
[Arthur:] yeah, yeah
[Evelyn:] I'd put that on as well as the other fan
[Arthur:] as the fan, the fats congealed with the frost
[Evelyn:] what on the
[Arthur:] you know in the opening and
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] the fans are catching it.... How, what's the time now?...
[Evelyn:] nearly five too, five too...
[Arthur:] oh...
[Evelyn:] stop moaning, you know what you didn't have
[Arthur:] that there
[Evelyn:] your medicine before your meal, that medicine you're supposed to take before for your chest
[Arthur:] that's alright now, it's not er, it must of been er congealed in the night in the chest....
[Les:] Tis now
[Arthur:] she won't agree
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] I the, the disturbed at the way the English lads are speaking
[Les:] ooh without a doubt
[Arthur:] in a way they find out
[Evelyn:] no I think that it's to get the vocabulary various classes of people and varies age group
[Arthur:] yeah, but as Les says there's more in it than that
[Les:] there's a, there's of course the entire speaking is getting very bad now in't it
[Arthur:] yes
[Les:] I brought those all Arthur, erm
[Arthur:] it's gotta be like that is it?
[Evelyn:] they're the things that's got to fit in, no they're not
[Les:] and now I think, do they just clip on? they just clip on?
[Arthur:] yes they well, er see that step only there's erm
[Les:] yes I'll just have to stand up
[Arthur:] I reckon there's another one the other side, perhaps that they
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] only just drop on like that don't they?
[Les:] yes and then the piece sticks out where you just er, where it goes on
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] so I don't how'll you, how will you do it?, will you be alright to do it?
[Arthur:] yeah, is it, is this one alright is it, is it only the one broken or two
[Les:] no there's two, they're the two pins
[Arthur:] they're, these are all the bits
[Les:] yes...
[Arthur:] well there's only, only enough bit then for... I don't
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] that's why I shall come up and have a look at...
[Les:] are yours
[Evelyn:] don't know
[Les:] that stuff what's clipped on yours, with your pin?
[Arthur:] no I'll show you in a minute, no
[Les:] or are they just er
[Evelyn:] here you are lets take these
[Arthur:] what I think Les, I think you should have two walls, I don't know, I think you should have two walls, one either side
[Les:] yes ther,ther,there
[Arthur:] then and that
[Les:] them split at the end
[Arthur:] yes
[Les:] where it's on
[Arthur:] er, right
[Les:] see it's split
[Evelyn:] mind that might be hot
[Arthur:] ooh
[Evelyn:] don't put it on the carpet if it's hot...
[Arthur:] there it is look
[Evelyn:] no that
[Arthur:] see that spark
[Evelyn:] don't want sewing up?
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] see were on a bit of a
[Les:] yes, I move that metal, that comes out and it's split
[Arthur:] yeah, well what
[Les:] is yours split there?
[Arthur:] no well what
[Evelyn:] don't stand on it
[Arthur:] what I think is this
[Les:] oh I see, yes, I see
[Arthur:] hold on a minute Les lets turn these off
[Evelyn:] mind, your going to spray lets move it away
[Les:] underneath in't it?...
[Evelyn:] oh we've got one of them, light bulbs
[Arthur:] oh things come out
[Evelyn:] to be replaced, look one of 'ems gone, that's why it's dark...
[Arthur:] er, used to, any way, that wants seeing, er I reckon you should have, see that lip
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] I reckon you should have another lip and it fits that slide on like that
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] so you'll, I shall have to make one...
[Les:] yes... I wonder if er if you got two bits of thin tin you know
[Arthur:] yeah, well I and er
[Les:] make you
[Arthur:] and er
[Les:] it just slides on I think
[Arthur:] lower that and, and you peg stones up like that
[Les:] that's right, yes
[Arthur:] see you can't go out cos that's er, and er just pushes on I think
[Les:] yes cos the, cos, cos where's, yeah
[Arthur:] you see it's very fragile got a
[Les:] where it's come off
[Arthur:] mm
[Les:] it's, it's parted, the, the, the, the metal fang comes along and then when it gets to the end ere it's split, it's split
[Arthur:] I you know what that's for, for the spring, it's split like that in't it?
[Les:] what?, yeah
[Arthur:] it's split like that
[Les:] yes, yes, the metal yes and it
[Arthur:] which is
[Les:] clips on there I think
[Arthur:] well, yeah you open that out to make it tight
[Les:] oh I, to fasten it on
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] I see
[Arthur:] you see you get, over the years it probably expands and it
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] becomes loose
[Les:] ah
[Arthur:] so you open that a bit
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] that spring
[Les:] which is that yeah, I
[Arthur:] and then
[Les:] alright then
[Arthur:] you'll have to push it on
[Les:] I got it, yes
[Arthur:] any way I'll make summat to do it
[Les:] right, thank you, you've got the two pins have ya?
[Arthur:] yeah, yeah
[Les:] Arthur
[Evelyn:] Better find a little dish to put them on so you don't wa
[Arthur:] well I've got plenty
[Evelyn:] loose them, let me get a dish
[Arthur:] I've got plenty of drivers like this
[Les:] have ya?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] here's one here and you've got the other one ain't ya?
[Arthur:] used to drive erm our machine used to drive
[Les:] did they?
[Arthur:] what we call drivers
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] about two inch long, you know
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and er, they are very fragile
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] they've made it so as it, it do, you see I, I, I reckon you ought to open my let me make them in te in steel because er they made them like that so that when you pull them off or adjust them
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] they won't burn ya
[Les:] no... yes
[Arthur:] I mean they're like er ha hard plastic
[Les:] it is in't it, yes it's like it
[Evelyn:] what are ours?
[Arthur:] er well metal you see there look
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] well you don't, you don't have to make it in plastic do you?
[Arthur:] well it does it, its method is to shove them on
[Evelyn:] oh
[Arthur:] er in or out according to where he wants them to flicker, well you see, as it, as the wearing get hot, that plastic expands and become loose and he's got a, a split, see that steel thing
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] ours is like that solid, well his is split, the idea that is you opened it like that, so when you push your others on, it has to compress it and it holds, but over the years it's er... the body
[Les:] weaked
[Evelyn:] the body
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Arthur:] er, er, I can make you one in plastic
[Evelyn:] what
[Arthur:] but er
[Les:] oh what, oh, I dunno know, er
[Evelyn:] mm, have you had it a few years?
[Les:] ooh yeah about, two the same, one in the lounge and one in the in the dining room one's got the convector on
[Arthur:] it depends don't it?
[Les:] the top
[Evelyn:] mm
[Les:] and the two bars and the other one's got the two bars
[Evelyn:] mm
[Les:] yeah, they're very good and er, funny that, one in each has gone
[Evelyn:] oh, oh it's
[Les:] you see not the two, yes, so we've still got one lighting on each
[Evelyn:] my tubes have gone, one out of each pack oh I see you've got one, one er, er out of each room
[Les:] that's right yes [sniff] yeah... yes
[Evelyn:] I just remembered one of these lights went last night
[Les:] did they?
[Evelyn:] I forgot to remind Arthur to er
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] to replace it
[Les:] yeah... yeah...
[Evelyn:] get that one down
[Arthur:] yes without go coming up to say and I presume it's like this, you perhaps told, when I draw it
[Evelyn:] don't draw on that table too much, you'll mark the table...
[Arthur:] now that's your piece still I assume
[Les:] yes coming that way
[Arthur:] that way
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] now this, this is the matter, now you your other bit, I don't think your gonna see it mate
[Evelyn:] put that other lamp on Arthur
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] so you can see
[Les:] yes...
[Evelyn:] is Eadie resting?
[Les:] yes, yes, she'll just have an or orange when I came out [LAUGHTER], she's been, I've been getting a few of those, it seems to help a bit
[Evelyn:] mm, I always eat plenty of fruit
[Les:] yes, yeah
[Evelyn:] Arthur does grapes
[Les:] does he?
[Evelyn:] mm, he loves grapes and apples
[Les:] er
[Evelyn:] we couldn't bring any apples though yesterday, not taking me car with
[Les:] ah carrying, yes
[Evelyn:] we get er
[Les:] how's the arm going Evelyn?
[Evelyn:] well it's, it's still swollen
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] oh her tempers getting the same Les
[Les:] yeah, yeah, yeah [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] but, er I can turn taps and hold things a little bit more
[Les:] can you, yes I well it's gonna take time for that
[Evelyn:] not, not all that
[Les:] to go down, in't it?
[Evelyn:] as you, you know how you sort of hold want to
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] hold things in your left hand
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] er, it's still not very strong
[Les:] is it?
[Evelyn:] no
[Les:] mm [sniff]
[Evelyn:] but the swellings gone down mostly I've got gloves
[Les:] ooh it is, it's a lot better, yes quite a while
[Evelyn:] on for the first time yesterday
[Les:] Christmas, yes yeah
[Evelyn:] so...
[Les:] yes...
[Evelyn:] I think I'll go
[Arthur:] you can't draw it in yellow cos it don't er take on this so I'm going
[Evelyn:] you don't have to draw it in yellow
[Les:] no, no I'll be alright now
[Arthur:] if you do them both white it looks all wrong
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] but you've got different colour pencils
[Arthur:] now this green is your, your yellow
[Les:] yes...
[Arthur:] er there's a slit there ain't there like that?, keep this still
[Les:] yes, that's right, it's open, yeah
[Arthur:] well
[Les:] oh that's how, how it works
[Arthur:] now that's, that's the wall of your yellows
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] broken
[Les:] that's right
[Arthur:] and that's the other wall which you need to go
[Les:] yes, as far as I can see with the other one's
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] still on yes
[Arthur:] yeah, they now, looking at end ways, it's like this... in't it?
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] that's your, your yellow plastic
[Les:] that's right it's just on the end
[Arthur:] that's it now here's your steel bit that's split
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] like that
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] so if you open that er steel bit
[Les:] yes...
[Arthur:] wide like that
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] wider than what it is
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] it grips when you push it on
[Les:] that's right
[Arthur:] and the idea that is, is I see it
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] is you want
[Les:] so they will slot it won't they?
[Arthur:] yeah as I, no, no not the yellow, the, the metals slot in
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and the idea is so you, you push it down to earth, you want it down to there
[Les:] in other words you can move it up and down aargh
[Arthur:] and I reckon that's it, that's broke on your movement you see
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] it's, these walls have broken off there
[Les:] mm...
[Arthur:] see those two walls
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and that's the bottom bit, and that, that there's your steel inside
[Les:] yes that's right
[Arthur:] but these have broken off and of course it's dropped off
[Les:] I
[Arthur:] so what I'll shall have to make you is a, you can either have it in metal, or in plastic
[Les:] whatever is, is, is easiest for you Arthur you're doing
[Arthur:] well I think it's both easy, but er
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] there, it's done with plastic so it don't get red hot when you, when you adjust it
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] but then again you'd be a bit daft
[Evelyn:] don't suppose you adjust it very often do ya?
[Arthur:] no, but you'll be a bit
[Les:] never touched it I haven't
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] you'll be a bit daft to adjust it when it was hot wouldn't ya?
[Evelyn:] mm, yeah
[Les:] yes, but I've never touched them er
[Arthur:] if it was mine I'd er, I'd er
[Les:] I've took these off to, to put the bulbs in
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] for my money I'd have it with all metal
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] but that's the i you see the idea of it now can't ya?
[Les:] yes, yes
[Arthur:] your yellow bits slides along here to where they were, here's your, here's your point
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] you can have it there, you can have it there, you can have it there
[Les:] ah, ah
[Arthur:] by pushing it up and down
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and this gets very hot, well fairly hot
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and the plastic soft and broke
[Les:] yes I think what I can see of er of what's on the other one on each fire
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] er there right on the end
[Evelyn:] mm oh I see
[Les:] there right to the end
[Evelyn:] oh Arthur's all, always messing about with ours
[Les:] is he?
[Evelyn:] to sort of make them go round
[Les:] ah
[Evelyn:] you know unless there's a draft
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] they won't always flicker do they?
[Les:] no, no, no
[Evelyn:] he likes fiddling about [LAUGHTER]
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] I've made ours go right and left we've got two
[Les:] yeah I've never touched ours much at all
[Evelyn:] well he's only got on, there's one out of each fire
[Arthur:] oh, we've got two and er
[Evelyn:] well so has Les got two
[Arthur:] on the same fire?
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] but there's one alright and one broken
[Les:] there's four altogether
[Arthur:] yeah, but, oh four well I'd like to
[Evelyn:] yeah of course, yeah
[Arthur:] you, you see those wings that are going round there
[Les:] yes, yes
[Evelyn:] he's got two fires
[Arthur:] these
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] I turn 'em what that, that way
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and this one that way
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] so that one goes to the right and this one goes to the left
[Les:] ah, ha, ha I've nothing, never, yeah
[Evelyn:] he, he fiddles about with he likes fiddling
[Les:] he did tell me though about doing the old pencil in, in here in't it?
[Evelyn:] yes
[Les:] in here Arthur ain't it?
[Evelyn:] or graphite
[Arthur:] or a bit of graphite, yeah
[Les:] you put the in there, in there do ya?
[Arthur:] just put your
[Les:] in there?
[Arthur:] pencil, just put your pencil in and along there
[Les:] yeah and roll it round I
[Arthur:] yeah, now here's your, there's your peg look your pointer, now draw it in black, you can see it better, there's your pointer, now draw it out here, the bit you brought your, your yellow bit is like that
[Les:] yes...
[Arthur:] and if you, if I make in steel and then can drive in and fit your pin
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] you'd have this effect, see... there's your wall... and the, that... then you pin up the middle like that
[Les:] ah, yes
[Arthur:] you see, but now that, if that were metal and this is your other metal
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] you know, what you say that's split
[Les:] yes, where it's gotta go on
[Arthur:] yeah, gotta go on like that in't it?
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] now, for my money now if that were loose I'd open these
[Les:] shall
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] strip, straight them open so that, they're like that a bit instead er
[Les:] ah, yeah
[Arthur:] straight like that
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and then if you did that it would tighten on to your walls
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and you could make, adjust it and it'd stay there
[Les:] ah
[Arthur:] but over the years it's got loose and you've probably fiddled and it did broken
[Les:] ah
[Arthur:] I should have them all metal cos ours is all metal as you see
[Les:] mm
[Arthur:] but I'll make you one in, two in plastic if you like
[Evelyn:] yes you want one of them
[Les:] no, no, well
[Arthur:] whatever
[Evelyn:] it'll be easier
[Les:] these are the best then
[Arthur:] these get fairly hot
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and er... you see these get, well, they're not too hot there
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] but, there's your wall look... er what we done with it, there's your wall, that goes, should run er, like that
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] then you can adjust it in or out
[Les:] ah I've got it
[Arthur:] just to get it in the right
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] location
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] you see, well to keep it tight
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] you open those prongs
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and of course it's probably been
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] over tightened or it's
[Les:] and that's all they were fasten on with that sort of stuff
[Arthur:] that's it
[Evelyn:] mm
[Arthur:] just slide off
[Les:] would you believe it, it's
[Arthur:] if, if you like I make it all in metal
[Les:] oh yes, which evers you wanna make
[Arthur:] well I'll make er I'll make two in metal and two in plastic and then see how you go on
[Evelyn:] no make two in metal instead
[Les:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] oh that won't take me five minutes to do that, it won't
[Evelyn:] oh I know your five minutes Arthur, five hours
[Les:] it, it, it be a quick five minutes [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] usually always
[Arthur:] how the birds going oh
[Evelyn:] I thought you were feeding 'em when
[Arthur:] oh I was looking you see
[Evelyn:] just before you went upstairs for a bath
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] you were cos I when Les came I thought you were still feeding them
[Arthur:] apparently on these you know you twist them
[Les:] yes, I, yes I've never bothered with
[Arthur:] you do know that, not too much
[Les:] them, I mean er
[Arthur:] but if, if you twist that, that way
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and that the other way
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] you get erm one going that way and one going the other
[Les:] yeah and also they go better as well don't they?
[Arthur:] well they're nicer you see
[Les:] they should go better really shouldn't it?
[Arthur:] mm
[Les:] if there
[Evelyn:] have you seen the records Les is, oh he's going to feed the birds before seven
[Les:] I think you'll find there's quite a selection there and they're, sort out what you want and that you know and er, ooh there's lot of the old ones and every thing and
[Evelyn:] mm
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] well he's busy taping nearly all, our old records
[Les:] is he?, yeah
[Evelyn:] well they're easier to put in the tapes
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] are
[Les:] that's right
[Evelyn:] you, you haven't got a tape machine?
[Les:] no, no
[Evelyn:] no
[Les:] no
[Evelyn:] well we only bought ours last year
[Les:] yeah, yeah
[Evelyn:] but as were getting older we find
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] put a tape in ea without any trouble I can't
[Les:] that's right no
[Evelyn:] I can't see to put the needle on properly on the record
[Les:] no, no
[Evelyn:] Arthur says I scratch them any way
[Les:] oh
[Evelyn:] trying to put it on so
[Les:] ah yeah
[Evelyn:] so I never bothered with the records
[Les:] no
[Evelyn:] but with a tape
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] just slot them in
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] and that's it...
[Les:] no with the, er
[Evelyn:] in fact if I'd known you hadn't got one, the one we had before, oh know it's not got a tape on though, but you've got a record player haven't you? yes
[Les:] yes, yes
[Evelyn:] right, I mean the record player that we've got and radio was quite good
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] but it hadn't got the tape
[Les:] no
[Evelyn:] thing
[Les:] no
[Evelyn:] and we gave it to the erm... school at over Downing Drive
[Les:] oh yes
[Evelyn:] for, when they were having their sale for their sports and swimming pool or something
[Les:] oh yeah, yeah, mm...
[Evelyn:] I mean we had given to us our friends, mad on radios
[Les:] yes, yes
[Evelyn:] and er, you know, he always wanted the very latest and
[Les:] that's right, yeah [sniff]
[Evelyn:] when he got some money
[Les:] that's right
[Evelyn:] he, he decided to have erm video and every thing and cassette
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] music centre
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] so erm, he said would you like it
[Les:] mm
[Evelyn:] instead of your old record player
[Les:] ah, very good
[Evelyn:] so, er we had it for about four years and then Arthur decide to have one of these last year.
[Les:] yes, yeah, yeah...
[Evelyn:] It's funny about Ellis having ya, I think, I think
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] the re-unions though wouldn't be the pre-war would they?
[Les:] oh I don't know this, this Eileen said something about they had one the year previous
[Evelyn:] yes but for what year?
[Les:] but they didn't when they're having the next one
[Evelyn:] oh it was of your age though
[Les:] oh yes oh yes
[Evelyn:] oh, oh
[Les:] same age as me
[Evelyn:] oh
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] because not many of the
[Les:] you know when your was you er, was you in the hockey team or any thing?
[Evelyn:] no played
[Les:] no
[Evelyn:] hockey but was never in a team, no
[Les:] I, us there were one or two er
[Evelyn:] you were in a football team?
[Les:] yes and then there were the er what other name black, Dora
[Evelyn:] oh yes, oh I know Dora she used to be in our dancing troop
[Les:] get out
[Evelyn:] we had a little dancing troop
[Les:] I thought perhaps she might come from something like that
[Evelyn:] yes, yes Dora
[Les:] she was captain of the hockey team
[Evelyn:] well that was before she, well, was she?, I didn't know that
[Les:] oh yes
[Evelyn:] cos she was a bit young, she was more like my young sister age
[Arthur:] does she dance?
[Les:] she was for the top of the hockey team and I were for the football
[Evelyn:] I've got a picture of her somewhere
[Arthur:] if you don't feel think there's a fly at the window
[Les:] yeah, yes
[Evelyn:] will you pull the curtain?
[Les:] well would you believe it?
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Les:] but you've never seen her since
[Arthur:] erm
[Evelyn:] no, do you remember that photograph we've got of that dancing troop?
[Arthur:] what you?
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] yes
[Evelyn:] and Cath, well apparently he knows one of the girls on
[Arthur:] shall I get it down?
[Evelyn:] do you know where it is?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] Dora
[Les:] Often wondered what's some what happened to some of the
[Evelyn:] in fact her brother er came to work at Oliver's, er, er
[Les:] did he?
[Evelyn:] in the buying office, er when I was there
[Les:] would you believe it
[Evelyn:] but he didn't stay long
[Les:] no
[Evelyn:] I don't know why
[Les:] yeah, but, they lived in Buller Road
[Evelyn:] Buller Road, yes
[Les:] where did you live when you were
[Evelyn:] McDonald
[Les:] you were in McDonald?
[Evelyn:] Dun Donald
[Les:] Dun Donald
[Evelyn:] yes
[Les:] why, which one was that?
[Evelyn:] next to it
[Les:] next to it
[Evelyn:] before, before Buller
[Les:] get out
[Evelyn:] Robert's Road at the top
[Les:] that's right
[Evelyn:] and I was at the bottom
[Les:] ah... well fancy you knowing her
[Evelyn:] yeah, yes and er... she, but she was a bit younger than me she was more my young sister's age, two years younger than me
[Les:] ah she would be because she was there
[Evelyn:] yeah
[Les:] she was still there, she was still there when, when I finished
[Evelyn:] mm
[Les:] I don't know whether she was just finishing then
[Evelyn:] so she'll be two or three years younger
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] because I think this little dancing troop we had out, I was about the eldest
[Les:] I
[Evelyn:] there was my young sister... we used to perform at concerts
[Les:] and where were this at er?
[Evelyn:] Carey Hall and er
[Les:] oh yeah I, I went Carey Hall [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] and er Melbourne we used to go
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] that one at Melbourne Road
[Les:] yeah...
[Evelyn:] oh that isn't... eh that's Dora fancy you knowing her
[Les:] well would you believe it
[Evelyn:] that's Dora, that's me
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] I forget what her name is
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] oh that's Do that's Betty that's her young sister
[Les:] get out
[Evelyn:] and that's my young sister Cath
[Les:] oh... would you believe it
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] these are good ones Les ain't they?
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] yes and that one
[Les:] yes, yes...
[Evelyn:] I'm trying to think of her name oh that was my young sister's that was my young sister's mother, Wendy
[Les:] was it?
[Evelyn:] in the war nineteen forty
[Les:] oh
[Arthur:] I didn't know it
[Evelyn:] no forty one
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] she's dead now though she's
[Arthur:] didn't know you were a high brow
[Les:] is she? yeah do what Arthur?
[Arthur:] didn't know you was a high brow
[Les:] why's that?, where's that?
[Arthur:] behind the straw at
[Les:] oh, oh got him alright
[Evelyn:] that's not high brow
[Arthur:] oh, we've got all Bygraves
[Les:] oh he is, there's all Max there yes and
[Evelyn:] have we got erm nice band man, there that's me, that's me mam, that's
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] me dad... and that, they're both dead now
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] and er they're all dead now
[Les:] is he really?
[Evelyn:] that's, that's Pam, my erm, me er niece
[Les:] mm
[Evelyn:] she was only about two and a half there
[Les:] well would you believe it?... very nice
[Evelyn:] I didn't know we'd still got this
[Arthur:] don't you look skinny?
[Les:] eh?
[Arthur:] don't she look skinny?
[Les:] yeah [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] well when you were dancing you, why I always were, well when, when your
[Les:] yeah, well you've gotta be, yeah, well [sniff] mm
[Evelyn:] and this Molly she always had to be different
[Les:] did she?
[Evelyn:] Dora mother made all that, these dresses
[Les:] did she?
[Evelyn:] yes for about six pence a yard from the dee hive
[Les:] would you believe that
[Arthur:] well would you believe it
[Evelyn:] well we haven't got much erm
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] much money really, shall I have me hair like that now, short, straight?
[Arthur:] page boy
[Evelyn:] no it's not page boy, it's just short
[Arthur:] it would of been in my day
[Evelyn:] er Cath's still got curly hair hasn't she there?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] that's Betty, that's Dora, that's Dolly Molly
[Arthur:] I noticed I er, did you notice it, which is the proper way?, often or often? they always say often today
[Les:] I, it's often
[Arthur:] well what's it got, what's going on then, why do they
[Les:] dunno
[Arthur:] delete it?
[Les:] yeah...
[Arthur:] mind you some of that er, those pantomime found a box of the er he talks bad, not bad English but not proper English and
[Les:] oh no, no
[Arthur:] and
[Les:] I think he's good [sniff]
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] I say Cath reckons Andrew
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] Aud Audrey's boy is like me dad, he is in't it when you look at him
[Arthur:] well he could be it's in the, in Australian in it, yeah
[Evelyn:] yes, no, my, my, that, her son is, she my sis Cath reckons he's, he's like me dad
[Les:] I
[Evelyn:] I think he is really
[Arthur:] well we we went to a
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] wedding down South and er took all the photographs
[Evelyn:] he's wedding, Andrew's wedding
[Arthur:] and er, when we got them printed, before we even sent them off, there were one, somebody, I've been talking to the father in, in the father of the bridge
[Les:] mm
[Arthur:] now against an apple tree and I asking him I was it permissible to go scrumping and he had to converse with the maid I think
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and some lady
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and I, they informed him want scrumping was
[Evelyn:] didn't know what scrumping meant
[Les:] I, yes
[Arthur:] oh he said it's quite permissible
[Les:] oh
[Arthur:] and er
[Evelyn:] oh well it posh people weren't it
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] well I, getting back to the picture you see, I, when I looked at it I thought good god it's our Bill, I, I you could of thought it were twin brothers when I
[Les:] I
[Arthur:] looked at that, you know
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] seeing him and then seeing him on that
[Les:] that's right, yeah
[Arthur:] and yet when it, in er, when say comes round or I'll go round you don't look at all that much alike
[Les:] no, no that's right
[Arthur:] but I suppose you do in a way
[Les:] yeah...
[Arthur:] you used to always say you can tell they're brothers like these
[Les:] that's right, yeah
[Arthur:] though they are sisters and
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] still
[Evelyn:] have you got any brothers?
[Les:] two
[Evelyn:] two still alive?
[Arthur:] what you
[Les:] yeah, round, yeah, yes one in Colchester Road and one's er... Bramall Road
[Evelyn:] mm
[Les:] that's just
[Arthur:] have you seen the new car?
[Les:] I, what's happened? when did they get that?
[Evelyn:] ooh they came and fetched the old thing
[Les:] did they?
[Evelyn:] about last Thur
[Arthur:] they came about nine, half past nine?
[Evelyn:] no, it wasn't it was
[Arthur:] it were dark
[Evelyn:] it was about six o'clock that night
[Arthur:] it weren't
[Evelyn:] no, no, it was, it was just after five
[Arthur:] it was darky any how, he couldn't see what he was doing
[Evelyn:] yes, well it is dark at four
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] because I thought Beverely would be coming home and she wouldn't be able to
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] get in
[Arthur:] get in
[Evelyn:] because the trailer and thing
[Les:] yes, yeah
[Evelyn:] was loud
[Arthur:] what he had, what he had was a biggish lorry with a low
[Evelyn:] fork lift
[Arthur:] back ball
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and er he'd got, he, we used to call them that you hooked on to the back of your lorry
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] like the bit, the brewers do
[Les:] yes, tip yeah, yes
[Arthur:] to roll the barrels down
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] well what he, he got a windless behind his cabin
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] electric
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] and he started it off and I wreck creeping up on, er right onto his cabin
[Les:] I, I so it's gone
[Arthur:] he, he rushed off as soon as that were done
[Les:] right
[Arthur:] whether somebody is whether complained
[Evelyn:] it wasn't the the proper, proper people
[Les:] no, no
[Arthur:] no markings on it, you know
[Les:] he's got another one now then
[Evelyn:] yes, because my er, my niece's husband when he came er, oh they brought us back, they fetched us Boxing Day and brought us back and he said it would be a right off he said
[Les:] mm
[Evelyn:] the damage to the front
[Les:] oh yes
[Evelyn:] he said, I don't think they'll be able to repair that
[Les:] no
[Evelyn:] and they next day that one that came
[Les:] I
[Evelyn:] they put it on the drive for
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] about twice
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] but it's still is it's on the road again I think
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] he, yeah I don't think he can get in all that much
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] he gets fed up trying to get it on the drive
[Les:] it by coming down
[Arthur:] yeah I've just been and put
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] seed out
[Les:] oh yes
[Evelyn:] I is there a lot there?
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] twenty two we usually get
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] I counted twenty four, you
[Les:] what type are they all doves are they?
[Arthur:] there coloured doves
[Les:] colour
[Arthur:] As Asian coloured doves
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and er the is gonna build that factory at the back
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] he said are they your pige
[Evelyn:] factory?
[Arthur:] well it looks like a factory
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] he said er
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Les:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] er are they your pigeons?, I said no, I says er accommodation doves and they're protected, he says what'd ya mean protected, he says you've not got to kill them
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] er they want them to stay in England
[Les:] ah
[Arthur:] you know and our and
[Les:] I
[Arthur:] have our own breed
[Les:] where are they, in the, do they, are they
[Arthur:] well, well
[Les:] in the trees or from around here?
[Evelyn:] no they come from the park
[Arthur:] they come from over the sh, the shop way a lot of them
[Les:] do they? I
[Arthur:] I reckon they hang round there for the chips
[Les:] we get one or two, but not as mad like that
[Evelyn:] oh no
[Arthur:] some, some might of join 'em from the park, but
[Les:] I
[Arthur:] most of 'em come from over there, and I, there's a fish shop there you see with the stuff
[Les:] ah
[Arthur:] you know
[Les:] that's right
[Evelyn:] we get a lot of the seagulls come do you?
[Les:] oh yeah, yeah yes
[Arthur:] how's Eadie any way?
[Les:] well a little bit better, but not a lot, not with the chest and that so
[Arthur:] with with
[Les:] the antibiotics not done a lot of good
[Arthur:] we just half talked the other day about holidays, er, a, I don't suppose you're going are ya?
[Les:] not
[Arthur:] no
[Les:] now, no, matter of fact I do but I weren't sure where, I think it were last week it were gonna be
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] or it could be this week, er you know how they have the January and they have it in Haymarket
[Arthur:] that's right
[Les:] with all with all the people in
[Evelyn:] yes have the, ah they're still there
[Les:] well no they're having it in the er, that one against top of the market, what is it called er?
[Arthur:] mm
[Les:] that place
[Evelyn:] Saracens Head?
[Les:] no, the, it's like er Council
[Evelyn:] oh County rooms
[Les:] County rooms
[Evelyn:] County rooms
[Les:] and it were gonna be in there Thursday
[Evelyn:] oh
[Les:] Friday, Saturday
[Evelyn:] which week?, or you don't know
[Les:] I weren't sure whether it was last Thursday, Friday or Saturday or this
[Evelyn:] mm or this
[Les:] Thursday, Friday, Saturday, but er if I have to go up town I, I'll probably go just round there
[Evelyn:] mm
[Les:] and just pop me head round and, and see, in case it is this week
[Arthur:] mm
[Les:] cos I reckon Brend I'll be there
[Evelyn:] mm
[Les:] and different ones, but they said all
[Evelyn:] I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind going for a few days
[Les:] all the brochures are gonna be there you see
[Arthur:] mm, mm, mm
[Les:] for every thing
[Evelyn:] I wouldn't mind going away for a few days, but
[Les:] mm...
[Evelyn:] it's a bit dicey this time
[Les:] oh now it is, yes
[Evelyn:] yeah, although you've got it
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] on your chest this morning haven't you?
[Arthur:] ah, well, ah
[Evelyn:] where's your pull over?, you better put that on
[Arthur:] I woke up in the night a pain here
[Les:] I
[Arthur:] and I thought, ooh, any way, I went to sleep again and when I got up to myself
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] er had the pain again and now it's going
[Les:] I er probably might be doing with a bit of wind, indigestion stuff
[Arthur:] oh I I hadn't thought of that
[Les:] with your food
[Evelyn:] no, well he was a bit chesty your were got catarrh like you've a
[Arthur:] I suppose you have bronchitis don't ya when you're old
[Les:] I mean were, was it sore or burning?
[Arthur:] not burning er raw, like raw
[Les:] and when you coughed it was oh well
[Arthur:] yeah when you cough you know
[Les:] oh well
[Arthur:] I had it like had it like a jab like a
[Les:] oh well
[Evelyn:] well you know what he did, on Monday morning he was in the garage when he suddenly made up his mind to com to walk across to the paper shop to get a paper... and he hadn't got er a jacket or any thing on, all he got on was a pull over
[Les:] oh, er, well
[Arthur:] well I was alright
[Evelyn:] and it started to drizzle a little bit didn't it?
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] I mean it was ridiculous
[Les:] but you were keeping warm by being under co, in a bit of a cover you see
[Arthur:] oh yeah, yeah
[Les:] and you were going out into the
[Arthur:] and it blows across like that
[Evelyn:] I mean I went I called to him and I thought where's
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] where's he gone
[Les:] yeah, yeah
[Evelyn:] I thought you off for a minute
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] looked in the garage, I thought well where's he gone, he's not
[Les:] oh dear
[Arthur:] did you look under the cover?
[Evelyn:] no I didn't
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Les:] oh
[Arthur:] mm
[Evelyn:] and then I was just getting worried
[Arthur:] eh, eh
[Les:] who's that?
[Evelyn:] looks like he's got his kids today
[Arthur:] it is his kids
[Les:] is he the one next door?
[Arthur:] no he's further up
[Evelyn:] no the
[Les:] oh I see
[Evelyn:] next one
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] he does make
[Les:] yeah, yeah
[Evelyn:] would you like a cup of tea?
[Les:] no, no I'll, I'll get back now
[Evelyn:] you sure you won't?
[Les:] Evelyn cos of leaving Eadie
[Arthur:] you want a drop of whisky then
[Les:] pardon?
[Arthur:] drop of whisky or any thing?
[Les:] no, no thank you Arthur, any way
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] use what you want
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] now I mean now got 'em all but if, take your pick and er
[Arthur:] yeah, yeah, yeah we've got not, not the same record but the same people Strauss, got one of Strauss
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] but I'll er
[Les:] sort, sort out, any thing you can use to help you with the tape
[Evelyn:] tape yes
[Arthur:] you know those
[Les:] right and don't worry about getting 'em done and getting 'em back to us
[Arthur:] no okay
[Les:] you can keep as long as you like because
[Arthur:] I, I, I keep them alright
[Les:] shan't want 'em for a long while
[Arthur:] er the little room up there we call the music room
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] where we
[Les:] we only use, we only fetch 'em out about at Christmas time [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] we, we never ev, we never used it
[Evelyn:] oh we might have a oh we did at first, when we first had the record player years ago didn't we?
[Arthur:] oh yeah, what we do now I've got a, a bought cabinet
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] with sliding doors, to keep the dust off them and that
[Les:] ah, yeah
[Arthur:] so they'll be, I, I put the perhaps start on them tomorrow then and get so you'll get them back
[Les:] this is right and as regard this, an all, don't worry about this
[Arthur:] well
[Les:] plenty of time
[Evelyn:] tomorrow we've got to go out
[Les:] you can
[Evelyn:] if, if it's
[Les:] there's no rush were not wanting 'em
[Evelyn:] unless it's foggy or frosty
[Les:] were not wanting 'em, we've got one in each going so
[Arthur:] yeah
[Les:] we've been like that a long while, so a lot longer won't matter
[Evelyn:] we've got to go out tomorrow
[Arthur:] we've got to go
[Evelyn:] and get some heavy shopping done
[Les:] ah
[Evelyn:] cos we haven't had the car for apart from nearly a fortnight
[Les:] yes, right, well don't let him get mucking about with these then and wasting his time
[Evelyn:] well I've got to get a bag of potatoes
[Arthur:] well it's her
[Evelyn:] we always have a bag of potatoes do you?
[Les:] milk man ran 'em off
[Evelyn:] oh what a big bag?
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] oh, oh no we have half hundred weight
[Les:] ah
[Arthur:] and Jack
[Evelyn:] well why I do a saucepan every day
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] and Jack's
[Evelyn:] the birds have most of them
[Les:] that's right
[Arthur:] and we get Jack in
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] and we usually get Jack in
[Arthur:] if you ever want a bag you know
[Les:] er, yes
[Arthur:] will bring it round
[Evelyn:] well perhaps they don't eat many potatoes do they?
[Les:] er not, not a big
[Evelyn:] you having tin potatoes weren't you when Eadie was here?
[Les:] oh yes, yes
[Arthur:] and they're cheaper
[Les:] we've gone back to the others though now yes, we get
[Arthur:] and they're cheaper buying them like that
[Evelyn:] ooh cheaper buying them in a hundred weight bag
[Les:] oh of course they are, yes, yes
[Arthur:] oh we'll bring you bag
[Evelyn:] no he doesn't er, he doesn't eat so many
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] cos they don't keep do they?
[Les:] no, no
[Evelyn:] no
[Arthur:] what d'ya reckon the idea of that was?
[Evelyn:] oh to make a bit of money
[Les:] yes, yes it was very good that, very nice
[Evelyn:] not bad are they?
[Les:] yeah
[Arthur:] it's surprising how it looks from the
[Les:] oh yes
[Arthur:] you know, even I say to Evelyn when I was watering I said
[Evelyn:] er, as if, it was if you've got a picture of your gardening it'd be nice wouldn't it?
[Les:] yes, yeah, yeah
[Arthur:] did you see
[Evelyn:] mind you might, might of taken some because say they took some in Valentine down there
[Les:] yes, yeah, yeah
[Arthur:] he seemed to think he's the er, he were doing it to sell them
[Evelyn:] oh well he must be
[Les:] yes
[Evelyn:] he said, I think people are take er, you know
[Arthur:] I showed it Tom next door, I says er, it, I says, he came and had a drink and to, and to see Evelyn and I says look you can tell Oliand and Dog Tongue [LAUGHTER]
[Les:] ah yeah, yeah
[Arthur:] I've often wondered about the other two's gardens it, but you can see now can't you?
[Les:] yes you can can't ya?
[Arthur:] it don't amount to much does it?
[Les:] no, very good any way
[Evelyn:] I think yours I'd make a lovely picture
[Arthur:] what puzzles me though The Gables
[Les:] yes
[Arthur:] paint in blue, but they're blue
[Les:] yeah
[Evelyn:] well it's just the light on the picture isn't it really?
[Les:] yes that's right... any way I shoot off and as I say hope you'll soon be a bit better both of you
[Arthur:] oh yeah
[Evelyn:] I've just got this sore throat and
[Arthur:] throat and that
[Les:] I'll er
[Evelyn:] but er
[Arthur:] just
[Evelyn:] yeah Bramall Road
[Arthur:] bye, bye Les
[Evelyn:] right bye
[speaker001:] It's a pity Les came when that Major Barber was on, I was just enjoying it
[Arthur:] yeah
[Evelyn:] you hadn't seen much of it had you?, but
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] I was just enjoying it
[Arthur:] oh well, you'd of thought he'd be looking at it wouldn't ya?
[Evelyn:] well, er Eadie was resting... but er, it's good, I thought I wouldn't want to see it again, but I'd forgotten it
[Arthur:] vase, is like er, he had a majority of two thousand, now he's lost three thousand voters
[Evelyn:] well if, perhaps they're not paying, if they're not paying the poll tax
[Arthur:] the tax, yeah
[Evelyn:] they're not supposed to be on the voting register, are they?... any way did you see where Liverpool two thirds have not paid
[Arthur:] mm, no I didn't see that
[Evelyn:] no didn't see it, it was on the one o'clock news
[Arthur:] oh you're right
[Evelyn:] yes
[Arthur:] spokesman believes that majority of missing vouchers are poll tax dodgers
[Evelyn:] well they should
[Arthur:] she said [reading] this won't help labour get in, these people were, page, five []
[Evelyn:] oh I expect they are on, on the Council
[Arthur:] they ain't consistent then with the
[Evelyn:] Council Estate... any way shouldn't think Labour would get in Liverpool if two thirds are not on he
[Arthur:] no
[Evelyn:] although I bet, I bet they're non pay
[speaker001:] Not till nine thirty.
[Arthur:] You know that painting he had, the last painting of himself? He said to the painter... er, what are you going to show me er, no, what are you going to paint me, a bulldog or th... the chair?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] And er, he said well that depends on what you show me. Well, I think it, he had a bit of a stroke and he sort of looked, you know
[Evelyn:] Looked a bit erm, senile didn't he?
[Arthur:] Well he painted him, painted him he said, and, you know when he died er the... well not, no he, they both went in the garden and burnt the... pa, the painting.
[Evelyn:] Yes I remember that.
[Arthur:] Oh well it were painter who died. But th, they burnt it up. But I I thought then he'd had a slight stroke so... to make him
[Evelyn:] I think he had.
[Arthur:] look like that.
[Evelyn:] Ah! Look! Have you seen this?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] Model craft sale. You know that shop we saw when we got lost... up Ayleston Road?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] And I said there's that other model making shop
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] they're advertising big reductions.
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] Including radios, kits and accessories. Model shop.
[Arthur:] Erm, radios and kits, that
[Evelyn:] But it's a model, they sell shop
[Arthur:] Oh I see!
[Evelyn:] they sell things like that shop they closed down.
[Arthur:] Mater, materials likely.
[Evelyn:] Cable Road, Ayleston.
[Arthur:] We can go and have a look at... how far in Ayleston is it?
[Evelyn:] Well... I saw that pai, I saw the shop as, as we came down the Ayleston Road, near the terminus.
[Arthur:] Mhm.
[Evelyn:] We've got the... map
[Arthur:] Mm mm.
[Evelyn:] in the car.
[Arthur:] We'll get that way, we'll have a look at
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Did it say how long?
[Evelyn:] Open Sunday, ten till four.
[Arthur:] Mm! Must have a lot of stuff!
[Evelyn:] We could go Sunday.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] It's probably closing down like that other one. I, he's about the
[Arthur:] Well he went er
[Evelyn:] only one
[Arthur:] He we, he only
[Evelyn:] left.
[Arthur:] he only went about a week and then he closed.
[Evelyn:] No he didn't!
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] It was... three months
[Arthur:] Well so
[Evelyn:] but he might be closing down because
[Arthur:] You see
[Evelyn:] nobody's making much... are they?
[Arthur:] your teenagers don't make ships and things now, they don't want to
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] it's work you see, and they don't wanna work!
[Evelyn:] We could go Sunday morning couldn't we?
[Arthur:] You see they don't want finicky stuff, they want er... a large pay packet fo, er stamping er envelopes.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Is that all? Is that, oh! What shall we dispose of?
[Evelyn:] Well you don't to see... a football match.
[Arthur:] True. True. Is it we,?
[Evelyn:] ... I don't think there's anything much on now. Have a
[Arthur:] You er
[Evelyn:] rest for a couple of minutes. Are you going to have a drink? I think you ought
[Arthur:] What
[Evelyn:] to have another Beechams tonight.
[Arthur:] what do you suggest?
[Evelyn:] Well you can have
[Arthur:] Rat poison or arsenic!
[Evelyn:] Well you, don't be silly!
[Arthur:] And what else?
[Evelyn:] No, what you going to have?... Would you like a dob of, drop of hot whisky and lemon, or wait till you get to bed?
[Arthur:] I can't have lemonade so
[Evelyn:] Wait until you get, what, do you want it now or when you go to bed, take it to bed?
[Arthur:] They don't sleep do they? Why take them to bed?
[Evelyn:] I'm talking about a drink, silly!
[Arthur:] I don't mind what we have, you er, you're the barman. You can expedite it if you like.... Can you picture that house?... [cough]... [yawn]
[Evelyn:] You'll make that.
[Arthur:] What?... Les come up with the same ideas I thought when I se, when we had bought it.
[Evelyn:] What was that?
[Arthur:] He said, ooh! Well, if you wanna sell the house you only gotta get up round and show [LAUGHTER] them that []!
[Evelyn:] Oh I see.
[Arthur:] He, he's correct isn't he? I thought of that er....
[Evelyn:] Well if it came over his house th... oh of course, next to the... that will have been empty for a few years so
[Arthur:] Yeah, but... they see the length of the garden, you know that garden
[Evelyn:] Yes, it's a nice
[Arthur:] all
[Evelyn:] It's a nice garden.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] But I mean,nex, next door was all er, overgrown it's not been.
[Arthur:] We've got a fair length in there haven't we? Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Cos it was... good! You know, there was more than enough really.... I keep going hot and now I'm cold, and then my throat's hurting.
[Arthur:] I think, would you like to do some er... adaptation, you know... with a
[Evelyn:] I think
[Arthur:] pair of wires to
[Evelyn:] well I think it would say on it
[Arthur:] and then shut this er on the roundabout too.
[Evelyn:] Well I told you that man was trimming trees at the bottom, the other day. We could have gone to him.
[Arthur:] Well, there's plenty of time.
[Evelyn:] I know but, if you're... shoulder's bad, you won't be able to do it.
[Arthur:] We shall have to see shan't we? Shall we not?
[Evelyn:] Oh dear! [cough]... No, but if they took Les's garden you see... the other side... would be a rubbish dump so
[Arthur:] Mm. True. But then
[Evelyn:] They probably wouldn't take it.
[Arthur:] it won't always be a rubbish dump
[Evelyn:] I know, but
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] but... you wouldn't want a photograph of your... garden a and a rubbish the other side. Well that's only a little bit that bit is. I mean, you can see that's a new building
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] just that little bit they haven't cleared up.
[Arthur:] But er... that lady ha who's had that extension done about cutting the branches... er... wouldn't you rather see it like that?
[Evelyn:] Well, no I don't know.
[Arthur:] I bet she'd no, see a difference if we cut them down wouldn't she?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] The way I looked at was a rubbish tip, that bit... it looks as if he's cleared and the grass is growing.
[Evelyn:] And grass growing, yes.
[Arthur:] And all slabs and bricks and
[Evelyn:] Ah but there is some... behind that fence. You can't
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] really see from that.
[Arthur:] I see. No.
[Evelyn:] That's all rubbish there.
[Arthur:] Yeah.... Didn't know had a glass house did you?
[Evelyn:] It's not! That's the garden in Summerleigh I keep telling you that!
[Arthur:] Oh it comes down to... from there.
[Evelyn:] Course it does! Yes!
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] It's on the border.
[Arthur:] [sneeze]... Why did they put it right down the bottom? Long
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] way to go!
[Evelyn:] Put it where it's... convenient don't they?... I think you'd better go to bed.
[Arthur:] Did er, Tom like the... I've never seen a better one th have you?
[Evelyn:] No it's a lovely frame!
[Arthur:] Usually only get like that but
[Evelyn:] Yes,th th the narrow.
[Arthur:] That's to give it more sales value I suppose. Do you think?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Oh, our damn stupid... wheelie bin
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] there that
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] that daft wheelie bin!... Think he'd take it down the bottom wouldn't you?
[Evelyn:] Well ours is still there from
[Arthur:] It's er
[Evelyn:] yesterday
[Arthur:] Yeah, but that's only cos I ain't got the car out. But I mean, they got, they gotta come out the... front to put stuff in haven't they?... till that was clean int it?
[Evelyn:] Mm. It was clean the other day before they took
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] it.
[Arthur:] ... That's Tom's drive, int it? There. That bit.
[Evelyn:] Mm mm mm mm.
[Arthur:] Goes up to his garage. And then that's the, bit of a... well they can't build any more can they? You said they were building another garage didn't you?
[Evelyn:] No I didn't. You said they were! They were doing some a, in the... renovating something.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Perhaps a, they're building that.
[Arthur:] Cos look... Tom's garage nearly reaches the wall.
[Evelyn:] I know. He's just padded something down. Perhaps something
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] went wrong.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And he had the workmen back.... [whispering] Don't do that []!
[Arthur:] Where e'er you be, let the wind go free!
[Evelyn:] Do you want a, er, do you wa, no I don't think you better have a Beechams now, I think you better have one later.
[Arthur:] In, you know that
[Evelyn:] To go to bed.
[Arthur:] You know that film er... a boat er, a boat we er
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] The African Queen
[Evelyn:] The African Queen.
[Arthur:] he had a rolling stomach.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] When he dranked anything.
[Evelyn:] Well, aren't you going to have a... why don't have a... egg sandwich?
[Arthur:] It's alright,... had enough to eat.
[Evelyn:] You didn't have all that mince pie. Christmas cake.
[Arthur:] I'll have a mince pie or Christmas cake.
[Evelyn:] Well, which do you want?
[Arthur:] Betwixt between them.
[Evelyn:] Cup of coffee and... I know, a cup of coffee and a drop of Cointreau, we haven't had any of that.
[Arthur:] Yes, that will do fine.
[Evelyn:] And a Christmas cake.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Okay.
[Arthur:] And two cherries on a stick!
[Evelyn:] Ah well, you'll be lucky!
[speaker001:] I think it was taken in the July fortnight.
[Evelyn:] Oh really? Mm!
[Arthur:] Tha that's his car that was smashed up.
[Kath:] Yeah the smashed up one. Yeah.
[Arthur:] Well he's got a new one
[Kath:] He's got another one.
[Arthur:] now.
[Evelyn:] Has he?
[Kath:] Ford Orion.
[Evelyn:] Oh yes! Mm! Let's just put my coat on.
[Arthur:] Oh yes!
[Kath:] Take your coat off a minute Evelyn.
[Vince:] Yeah. Oh that's good int it?
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Vince:] Yeah! That's good!
[Evelyn:] I shall have a
[Arthur:] Ah!
[Evelyn:] couple of newspapers.
[Arthur:] There's all the back gardens.
[Vince:] Super int it!
[Arthur:] It's our clean road.
[Kath:] We've just been to Nursery.
[Evelyn:] Oh we're, we're going to Sainsburys in a minute. Have a look
[Arthur:] Takes a lot to clean the place up.
[Vince:] Ooh yes! You
[Arthur:] There's a
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER] You can []
[Arthur:] And
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER] see [] the difference
[Arthur:] see the difference.
[Vince:] can't you?
[Arthur:] The man said, how is it your grass is greener than next door?
[Vince:] Yes. How is it? [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]... Well you get the frame and all the lot.
[Vince:] Oh! Do you really?
[Arthur:] Mm. Frame
[Vince:] That's marvellous isn't it, really?
[Arthur:] you get the frame and all the lot.
[Vince:] Marvellous! Yes! Very good!
[Kath:] That's not right is it?
[Vince:] Very good!
[Kath:] Have you read that Vince?
[Vince:] Pardon?
[Kath:] Have you read that letter?
[Vince:] Yes. Oh yes. over there this morning then?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]... Anyway what... I don't know what your er... accent is? Not from here.
[Vince:] Geordie.
[Kath:] It's Geordie.
[Vince:] Geordie. Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Geordie! Oh!
[Vince:] Northumberland, yeah.
[Kath:] Er.
[Vince:] Newcastle on Tyne.
[Kath:] of spoken English.
[Evelyn:] I knew you came from North but I never knew exactly where from.
[Vince:] Oh yes! Newcastle. That's the place.
[Evelyn:] Put it down.
[Kath:] Sit down a minute.
[Arthur:] Yes alright.
[Kath:] Don't stand up.
[Arthur:] No we're not, no we're not sitting down like. We got a lot, we got a lot
[Vince:] Sit down on er seat over there.
[Arthur:] got a lot to do.
[Kath:] Now go and have a look in the hall it looks beautiful! I like the idea, do you?
[Arthur:] Oh that's nice, yeah.
[Vince:] Well I thought the dado would make a change
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Vince:] you know.
[Arthur:] It is nice isn't it? Of course, it's purple.
[Evelyn:] Yeah, it's beautiful! And that's lovely!
[Vince:] And we're doing the top as well.
[Kath:] To the very end.
[Arthur:] I like your skirting board, er er changed round.
[Vince:] Yes, it's a nice change.
[Kath:] You like it? It looks nice don't it?
[Evelyn:] Beautiful! Yes, you've made a good job of it.
[Vince:] Nice bit of wood that!
[Arthur:] Yes, there's a... Kath!
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Well this is alright, but we're only doing it for the beneficiaries int you?
[Kath:] Yeah I know.
[Vince:] What then?
[Kath:] I i, it's so it's something to think about isn't it?
[Arthur:] They'll say
[Kath:] You've gotta live with it!
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER] Look at that horrible side table []! It were alright, you know, so much
[Vince:] We've got to live with it and
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Yes, I'll be taking him ho, have you er, had your carpet cleaned?
[Kath:] No.
[Arthur:] [sighing] Ah []!
[Evelyn:] It keeps well doesn't it?
[Kath:] Yes. It's only been cleaned once since I've had, and it's been down er, since nineteen
[Vince:] Well what's your verdict then?
[Kath:] seventy four.
[Vince:] What's your verdict?
[Evelyn:] Yeah, that looks alright. Yes!
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] You know what I think er,th we've been talking about it round about and I says, you know, they were wondering if it was a bit suspic, I said no,th, they worry to death, there's our children who speaking like the nig-nogs!
[Kath:] Yeah! That's right.
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Did you mean this?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] I reckon that's what it is.
[Kath:] Well it is!
[Vince:] Quite right Arth!
[Evelyn:] No,we, well I think it's... the
[Kath:] It is to do with that isn't
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Kath:] it?
[Arthur:] Yes. Yes.
[Kath:] In the dictionary and
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Kath:] there's what
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Kath:] vocabulary is being used... in
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Kath:] present day
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Kath:] that's what it was.
[Evelyn:] Yes!
[Vince:] That's right, yeah!
[Evelyn:] Mm! Is that
[Vince:] Probably is.
[Evelyn:] a new cabinet you've made.
[Kath:] No! We made
[Vince:] No. We've made that, that
[Kath:] We made many years ago.
[Evelyn:] Looks nice doesn't it?
[Kath:] Oh! Sa
[Arthur:] Do you replenish the glasses though? Are they for show?
[Kath:] What the glasses?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Glasses []!
[Kath:] Erm
[Vince:] Oh we use them!
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Kath:] We broke, we've broke one
[Evelyn:] they keep breaking though!
[Vince:] We use some for, I'll tell
[Kath:] We broke
[Vince:] what it's for if you want one?
[Kath:] one of these erm... one of those green ones we broke.
[Vince:] But that's all. Yeah.
[Kath:] That's all we've broken really.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Have you got a glass?
[Kath:] Yes!
[Arthur:] Oh! Oh, I didn't know that.
[Vince:] Ooh it's all on there!
[Arthur:] That's supposed to be
[Kath:] Er... well we want Penny to, Penny's not coming today, had to
[Arthur:] supposed to be test that is.
[Kath:] go to Nottingham... on a course
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Kath:] Mandy's in Derby
[Evelyn:] Mm mm.
[Kath:] for week... and er
[Evelyn:] Does she stay in Derby? I thought she was
[Kath:] Oh no!
[Evelyn:] travelling daily.
[Kath:] Daily. Daily.
[Evelyn:] On the train?
[Kath:] On the train, yes.
[Arthur:] Did you buy these?
[Kath:] And erm
[Arthur:] The?
[Kath:] And no now next week she's got to go Leeds.
[Vince:] Oh no, I found those other chairs, the side, yeah.
[Arthur:] It's just right
[Evelyn:] She likes it then?
[Arthur:] for the
[Kath:] Ooh yeah!
[Vince:] I still like the cabinet though
[Kath:] , yes!
[Vince:] myself.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Kath:] But she's still planning
[Evelyn:] But they must know.
[Vince:] you know, I like the that way, but
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Vince:] this is ever so.
[Evelyn:] Yes!
[Arthur:] Yeah. It is
[Vince:] Oh! Yeah!
[Kath:] Oh yeah. They have to work
[Vince:] But still
[Kath:] you know, quite, But I'd wished I'd, I wish I'd have got those photographs to show off.
[Evelyn:] Oh the er
[Kath:] photographs that er
[Arthur:] Cow bell was that?
[Kath:] that Joyce had taken?
[Vince:] Oh yeah!
[Evelyn:] What what did Mandy
[Kath:] Er, no Mandy and Neil. She's studying photography at night school
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Kath:] and she's took a whole lot of Mandy and Neil! They're beautiful!
[Evelyn:] Oh this lady?
[Kath:] It's
[Vince:] Yeah! Lovely pictures!
[Kath:] Mandy's boyfriend's mother.
[Vince:] Really well done!
[Arthur:] Are they all portraits?
[Vince:] Super!
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Kath:] Er... Mandy had one taken for
[Vince:] How's your car doing, alright?
[Kath:] Penny's birthday.
[Arthur:] Oh yes! Evelyn said, don't it run well! I said at... eight years old, it should do but it
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Not bad for eight year old is it?
[Kath:] Shall I go and put the kettle on?
[Evelyn:] Well, if you like that. Er, if I have coffee in the morning
[Arthur:] I didn't wanna come out cos of the salt though.
[Kath:] I do sometimes.
[Evelyn:] Erm
[Vince:] Yeah. Well I
[Arthur:] I if it had
[Vince:] It's not bad yet is it?
[Arthur:] No.
[Vince:] There's not too much down.
[Arthur:] They throw all the bloody salt
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] out when there's no ice!
[Evelyn:] Do you always have coffee?
[Kath:] We always have
[Vince:] Oh yeah!
[Evelyn:] coffee round about ten.
[Arthur:] As soon as you fix, cos er, as soon as you fix your car it starts to work!
[Vince:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Arthur:] And the bloody! Er, found out, that on these motorways the bridges were ro, collapsing because the iron work with the salt from the road were... it, wouldn't you have thought
[Vince:] Oh I know!
[Arthur:] they'd have thought of that!
[Vince:] Well... all er
[Arthur:] Yeah the... the salt's getting down to th, and it's all running riot!
[Vince:] All hindsight isn't it?
[Evelyn:] They're your grandchildren?
[Vince:] Oh! That's a long time ago.
[Evelyn:] Yes. I was going to say, they're growing up now aren't they?
[Vince:] Yes!
[Kath:] Arthur, would you like a cup of coffee?
[Arthur:] Er, no thank you.
[Kath:] You sure? Would you like to have it
[Arthur:] Well my waterwo, if I start drinking and then I'll want to go, and if I can't go
[Kath:] Well we've got two toilets!
[Arthur:] Oh I know, but
[Kath:] Well we've got to go to
[Vince:] Well you don't want a, you don't want a sherry then?
[Arthur:] No, if I get round so
[Kath:] Have a sherry then.
[Arthur:] I'll perhaps want to go and then I've gotta go up then.
[Evelyn:] We've got to go and get some potatoes.
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] And er... then to Sainsburys to do the shopping.
[Arthur:] I reckon you get like that in old age Vince.
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER]
[Kath:] Well er, Madge to have her hair done yesterday.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Oh Wednesday, yes!
[Kath:] Yeah, she's had it permed.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Vince:] Some of the men were on
[Evelyn:] Is that the new idea? Yes.
[Arthur:] No, well I wanted to get back like
[Vince:] We do have some seats, you know!
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Vince:] [clears throat]
[Kath:] I like the, the vase you brought me!
[Arthur:] Yes, but you've gotta sit down in the end so
[Kath:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Well have you got anything to hold that? That's er
[Vince:] Oh yes.
[Evelyn:] we've got a pair like that. Ooh! You know that teapot we had on our Welsh dresser?
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Some man came
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] round, well came round earlier in the year, we sold him bits.
[Kath:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] Ten pounds!
[Arthur:] Ah, he'd got a
[Kath:] Ten pounds... for that old
[Arthur:] For tha that
[Kath:] teapot?
[Arthur:] that tea, that, you know, ten
[Evelyn:] I remember.
[Arthur:] pounds.
[Evelyn:] It didn't really match the things on our Welsh dresser. He said, I'll give you ten pounds for that.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] So I said, you might as well.
[Vince:] Might have been worth a thousand!
[Kath:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] I doubt it!
[Kath:] Do you watch the Antique
[Evelyn:] Well I
[Kath:] Roadshow?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Vince:] it's too.
[Arthur:] I, I... don't know what deciding though, I says, funny enough I said there were one just like this at Millaires... and I didn't qualify where it was, but it... he latched on to it and it's er... a posh place, you know, Millaires
[Kath:] Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.
[Arthur:] one of these... historic
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Kath:] Mhm.
[Arthur:] and only like a village but er
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] very old, see... I said, there one in antique shop... exactly like that, but I said, but it were cracked and they wanted twenty six pound for it.
[Kath:] Mm!
[Arthur:] I said, I don't know whether it's, they've sold it. As soon as I said that, he said I'll give you ten pound.
[Evelyn:] He went anyway and I thought we might as well
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] have the [LAUGHTER] ten pound [].
[Kath:] Yeah!
[Evelyn:] Because,i it was... we've got too many bits on the Welsh dresser anyway.
[Vince:] Well, yeah, well yes... if you've got er.... But I suppose
[Evelyn:] Well I couldn't
[Kath:] Well I I
[Evelyn:] get my wedding ring on. I
[Kath:] Yeah. Oh!
[Evelyn:] er
[Arthur:] Oh you sold him some
[Evelyn:] Still
[Arthur:] bi bits of rubbish!
[Kath:] Ooh it's a bit wonky int it?
[Evelyn:] Well I think... well it is anyway, I mean I've got a swollen wrist.
[Kath:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] It's... by the time I could get my gloves on. It's swollen
[Kath:] It's swollen there isn't it?
[Evelyn:] there.
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] That's where it hurt most, the thumb.
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And that
[Vince:] You know that
[Evelyn:] and that
[Vince:] you just
[Evelyn:] third one.
[Kath:] Mm!
[Evelyn:] It never hurt... on the arm. It does sometimes now.
[Arthur:] Did you see the football match last night?
[Vince:] No.
[Arthur:] A footballer done the same thing. And this morning
[Evelyn:] We only switched the last few minutes on.
[Arthur:] and this morning on the news, said he's broken it, they said
[Evelyn:] Broken there.
[Arthur:] a dislocated so so shoulder
[Evelyn:] Shoulder.
[Arthur:] said there is the a surgeon in the er, audience?
[Evelyn:] Orthopaedic one, yeah.
[Arthur:] But er, this morning they said it's a broken wrist. I said, he's done what you do... put his fist out to hold him
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] and
[Vince:] For for
[Kath:] Mm.
[Vince:] support.
[Kath:] Yeah. Yes it's er
[Vince:] I know.
[Kath:] it's still swollen now int it?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Yes.
[Kath:] And your fingers are
[Arthur:] Ooh yeah!
[Kath:] aren't they? Ooh! Ya!
[Evelyn:] Mind you, they said they yeah, well a bit on the other hand. And that wrist is.
[Kath:] Ooh yes!
[Arthur:] A bit like, I like all this a
[Kath:] And you're using it now are you?
[Evelyn:] Yes. A bit.
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] I like all this and that bit... but she has er, you end up to go on the... dirty little foxes... and... you get on... and there's so,... runny nosed... yobbo kid about twelve, gets on and sits on his foot!
[Vince:] On his bottom.
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Vince:] Oh aye.
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Kath:] Oh yeah! Oh I've seen that!
[Arthur:] But yo, and you're in
[Kath:] Yeah!
[Arthur:] your best sort of coat!
[Vince:] They only ever care if it's
[Evelyn:] Yes! Mm!
[Arthur:] Well why do they sit on their foot for?
[Evelyn:] Well they do don't they?
[Vince:] Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] [cough]... Well... pull your scarf on then.
[Arthur:] Did you hear this morning's news Kath?
[Kath:] Pardon?
[Arthur:] Did you hear this morning's news?
[Kath:] No.
[Arthur:] The er erm
[Evelyn:] Don't you have the news on in the morning?
[Vince:] No.
[Arthur:] er
[Vince:] Well I, well I
[Arthur:] what do they call
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER] in the morning []!
[Arthur:] what do they call these mountain bikes? Mountai, I don't what they're called.
[Evelyn:] Mountain bikes aren't they?
[Vince:] The mountain bikes.
[Arthur:] Two lads, went up to them and says... get off that bike or we'll pull you off! He got off and they went off with it!
[Kath:] He left it?
[Arthur:] And it's a brand new mountain bike!
[Kath:] Yeah. Well Amanda, er
[Arthur:] Just like that!
[Kath:] Neil's had his stolen you know!
[Arthur:] No! But just like that! And they
[Kath:] Yeah, well it, it was locked up in the shed and the shed was
[Vince:] You're not safe anywhere are you really?
[Kath:] locked!
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Kath:] And then er... he he claimed and he go, he had a new one
[Evelyn:] Oh.
[Kath:] and then er... they they found it at the polic, the police station
[Vince:] They found one didn't they?
[Kath:] well, somebody found it down by the river... just at the back of where they live so it must have been somebody round about
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Kath:] who had it.
[Vince:] Just watch them... getting
[Kath:] Mm.
[Vince:] it here and
[Kath:] Yeah so
[Vince:] nothing at all safe.
[Kath:] Maggie's got it now, but nobody uses it.
[Arthur:] Well that's alright Kath, you see
[Kath:] No nobody uses it.
[Arthur:] but er
[Evelyn:] Well the kids round our way they have bikes but they never go anywhere on them just take to go and do a paper round.
[Arthur:] well you take a two hundred and forty quid
[Kath:] Mm.
[Arthur:] bike... and
[Vince:] Mm.
[Arthur:] then they'll come on this morning, if you have half a pint of beer you're over the odds, you'll be pinched.
[Kath:] [LAUGHTER]
[Vince:] Mm!
[Arthur:] And when you think that his bike be more important
[Vince:] Yep.
[Arthur:] than me having half
[Kath:] Than you.
[Arthur:] a pint of beer.
[Evelyn:] ?
[Kath:] Yes, it was eight
[Evelyn:] I'm waiting for a new one.
[Vince:] We want a new one.
[Kath:] In fact having a new one.
[Evelyn:] Nice!
[Kath:] It's permanently like that. It's been
[Evelyn:] Oh is it?
[Kath:] sitting there shuffling my feet.
[Evelyn:] Oh is it? Oh!
[Vince:] It's er
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Vince:] bit of arthritis in it I think, in the rug.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] In my rug, yeah []!
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER]... Or ruggitis in it!
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] Oh dear!
[Vince:] Well it's gonna be nice!
[Arthur:] Yes it is, yeah.
[Evelyn:] Yes th, I'm glad
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] we came out.
[Arthur:] There's a lot of wet though in the country roads.
[Vince:] Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] Where do you go shopping, Tesco?
[Vince:] Tesco, yeah.
[Evelyn:] Er, only been there two or three times and we had [LAUGHTER] miles to walk to the shop []!
[Vince:] Ah!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] We went on one car park and we couldn't find it []!
[Vince:] Ah. Well we park right beside it.
[Evelyn:] Well I know you can now
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] we ought to have driven
[Vince:] Lovely!
[Evelyn:] driven round until we had found it.
[Vince:] Well, yeah, there's four car parks, you see.
[Evelyn:] Yes I know, well we, we must
[Vince:] So th
[Evelyn:] have parked, parked on
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] the one furthest
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] away.
[Vince:] That's a good picture int it?
[Arthur:] Yeah, we suddenly saw it
[Evelyn:] Well I'm glad you said it
[Arthur:] in.
[Vince:] Very good, that is!
[Evelyn:] I know.
[Vince:] Nice to have, isn't it, that?
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] Ah well they were down in the garden we said
[Arthur:] They were offering it around.
[Evelyn:] oh we might
[Vince:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] as well.
[Arthur:] Look at my birds though. That's a giveaway int it?
[Kath:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] All, all the pigeons and... all the
[Arthur:] The bird there.
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I think
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] it was taken last July fortnight because... Jackie and Tom were away and that
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] bit was all
[Vince:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] bit dried up
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] That's that car that was smashed up, you saw.
[Vince:] Yeah?
[Arthur:] That's before it was smashed up.
[Vince:] But before that's
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Vince:] they the same?
[Arthur:] Look in that garden look.
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] They have two gardeners comes round.
[Vince:] Oh yeah. Yes yours looks good!
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Vince:] Really lovely aren't they?
[Arthur:] That one's alright but i it's it's all grey look. Dried up like.
[Vince:] Yeah that.... And... i is this the house that's got the extension on? Is that one or... the one o over the road?
[Arthur:] No that... you mean, near the back of the gardens?
[Kath:] Mm.
[Vince:] Ah!
[Arthur:] That's the one.
[Vince:] Oh that's, oh course it is! That's the back, yeah.
[Evelyn:] That's the back, yes. That's the back.
[Vince:] That's right. Yeah.
[Arthur:] Hey! You see this... but she said, ooh, I've had, didn't tell you, I've had the burglars! I said, what's the matter with your lad's wrist? She says he's er... he's fell over in the, you know, and er, he he's al, he were always running, he gets on left side onto us... runs to this corner, calls out to the... missus
[Evelyn:] He did.
[Arthur:] look... see that one there, that one there.
[Vince:] Oh yes!
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] he were running up and down the little bugger!
[Evelyn:] Look at that.
[Kath:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Trying to fall.... You can't beat them, you know, they know all the
[Kath:] Oh! They know
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Kath:] all the answers
[Vince:] I know.
[Kath:] don't they? All the tricks of the
[Vince:] They know the
[Kath:] trade.
[Vince:] They know exactly how to re
[Kath:] And if they don't know, there's somebody to advise them.
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Vince:] They'll know exactly
[Kath:] Well
[Vince:] how to run the country
[Kath:] and they
[Vince:] shortly!
[Evelyn:] We were er... grumbling about that... his wrecked being outside. He'd, somebody advised him... because if it hadn't got a license number plate on
[Vince:] That's it.
[Kath:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] it couldn't, it shouldn't have been left out there.
[Arthur:] Ah.
[Kath:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] He had taken a le, he had a taken a license off, he'd got his money back on his license.
[Vince:] Mm. Oh!
[Kath:] Mm.
[Vince:] He's done it before has
[Evelyn:] Still on, but he's had it taken, he had it taken away last week.
[Vince:] Ah!
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Whether somebody cottoned on or
[Vince:] Ah!
[Evelyn:] I don't know but
[Vince:] But you sho...
[Evelyn:] somebody had told him that.
[Vince:] It must be taxed if it's on
[Evelyn:] According to
[Vince:] the road.
[Evelyn:] Ye, well... that's
[Vince:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] what Jackie on the end the road said.
[Vince:] Even if it's standing on the road.
[Arthur:] I do it looks blue if you turn it somewhat.
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Yes it does.
[Kath:] It does. Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Except it lo it looks black there. Look there... in the
[Vince:] Yes.
[Arthur:] shade.
[Vince:] Yeah, you got a bit
[Kath:] Yeah, you can tell it's blue. Oh yes, it's in the shade.
[Vince:] The sun shining on it.
[Evelyn:] isn't it?
[Kath:] Yes. You can just see it.
[Vince:] See it.
[Arthur:] Just see it, yeah.
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] See that park's black and yet it's that blue.
[Kath:] Mm!
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Kath:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Come along then.
[Kath:] Mm!
[Evelyn:] If we've got to get to.
[Arthur:] The part I like.
[Kath:] Lovely that!
[Arthur:] The, that one who's had the factory built, look at his front garden!
[Vince:] And how many, did they do the whole estate or
[Evelyn:] Well he's done a lot, because we were on the bus on... Tuesday, and er... couple who live in which is one of those roads... up
[Kath:] Yeah.
[Vince:] Aha.
[Evelyn:] er, she said that they'd been to the... said this man had been to her house.
[Kath:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] And... but they... wouldn't buy it. Yes!
[Vince:] [LAUGHTER] [break in recording]
[Arthur:] That was the windows you can see?
[Evelyn:] Well Madge
[speaker001:] Well I
[Evelyn:] can't see, er can't see really can you?
[Arthur:] And you're getting a reflection
[speaker001:] No I can't see this.
[Arthur:] from these.
[speaker001:] Mm! Ooh I say!
[Evelyn:] I know.
[speaker001:] And this is all
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]... I know what it, I know what it costs for that sort of wood. And
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] the framing.
[speaker001:] Yeah!
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Yeah! It's lovely!
[Arthur:] Perhaps if you don't have a reflection you see better
[speaker001:] I, I can't
[Evelyn:] No Madge can't see.
[speaker001:] I really can't, no.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Well there's jus
[speaker001:] Especially this light is the worst.
[Evelyn:] In win
[speaker001:] In the winter,yo, like you know.
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] Anyway.
[speaker001:] Ah! Ah! Ah!
[Evelyn:] We're recording what you say... on there. You don't mind do you?
[speaker001:] What's that fo, what was that?
[Evelyn:] It's for market research.
[Arthur:] Er the, the
[speaker001:] Oh!
[Arthur:] the ge, powers that be are worried about the er
[Evelyn:] No they're not!
[Arthur:] English language dying out.
[speaker001:] Out. Oh, well, yeah!
[Arthur:] So now they're... wrote to us picking them, doctors and... people like us that are
[speaker001:] Well in in each... category.
[Arthur:] people like us that are
[Evelyn:] A retired couple who
[Arthur:] university sort of people.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Well they're all different. No!
[speaker001:] Yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] She wants... somebody from each a broad
[speaker001:] Yeah. Oh!
[Arthur:] And they want to find out if er, this pigeon
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] English from the
[Evelyn:] No they [LAUGHTER] don't []!
[Arthur:] this pigeon English is working into the system.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well, I think it is!
[Arthur:] Well, there you see! Tom thinks
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] the same.
[speaker001:] Ooh yes! I do.
[Arthur:] Evelyn... she's so dogmatic!
[speaker001:] A dreadful!
[Arthur:] Ooh no! They wouldn't do a thing like that!
[speaker001:] All these they want to
[Arthur:] It's just this
[speaker001:] bring their own
[Arthur:] Course they would!
[speaker001:] and you see Course they do! of language don't they?
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Look at
[Arthur:] Ooh!
[speaker001:] look at the Americanisms we've... got, included in the dictionary
[Arthur:] Yes! Yes!
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Yes!
[speaker001:] now! Yeah.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Which weren't in thirty years ago.
[Arthur:] Ooh they say, er the Queen said... er she said often, for often... well yo, I thought she'd be well on the
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] form.
[Evelyn:] Oh! Yeah.
[Arthur:] And they're all saying it now on telly, often.
[Evelyn:] Of, often.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Alright. [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Are you cleaning the
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] windows?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I can't clean windows!
[speaker001:] Oh I, don't do them with a window leather, I do them with
[Evelyn:] Ah! ah, Windolene
[speaker001:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Sainsburys stuff
[speaker001:] Oh I've not wo, I get that from, oh it's ever so good that is!
[Evelyn:] What's that?
[speaker001:] I get it from down at the hardware shop. It
[Evelyn:] I've had Sainsburys and everything and the windows
[speaker001:] Oh I've had that Tinkerbell and... and er... stuff years ago.
[Evelyn:] No!
[speaker001:] The best I've ever had.
[Evelyn:] What's that?
[speaker001:] It's about a pound. Well it was
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[speaker001:] the last one I, I want another one.
[Evelyn:] With ammonia? Ooh mine
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] had got er... vinegar in.
[speaker001:] No. You squeeze it on, just
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Like, I've got
[speaker001:] you know
[Evelyn:] one like that.
[speaker001:] Ain't done this one yet.... What is this [sighing] Ah []! well that bloody bird's been again! Oh no it's not it's the. [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] The birds are marking up that window there! [LAUGHTER]... Eh! alright? Can see the sun through the windows!
[Evelyn:] Yes, he this morning.
[Arthur:] Ah but... you read that.
[speaker001:] It's er Yeah.
[Arthur:] She's been having it off with him!
[speaker001:] er Sarah. [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Well that happened two years ago didn't it? Eighteen months ago?
[speaker001:] Sh er
[Arthur:] Er, did you see the programme
[speaker001:] What's that Arthur?
[Arthur:] of all those sheep being... tu, treading on each other,uri urinating on each other on top of a lorry going to France?
[speaker001:] No. They want to send them dead but they will have it... send them alive. And er... you know, I often think if er... the sheep knew what the farmers were up to they'd grow teeth wouldn't they? They'd have them all! [LAUGHTER] Well I think it's... I think it's terrible!
[Arthur:] They, I mean if they were, if they were tigers they wouldn't do it would they?
[speaker001:] It puts you off eating meat altogether! Does. Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Arthur's nearly vegetarian now!
[speaker001:] ... We saw one er last night, or the night before Oh aye. and killing pigs You've gotta think... strains of er pigs, so that they just lie there of fruit, vegetables and animals and you know... and er Yeah. Ooh! It were awful! The... the laboratories that created them were. Yeah. Well Ooh! It, it were, it was awful what was on
[Evelyn:] That's
[speaker001:] the other, last night! Was it last night?
[Arthur:] Go to the
[Evelyn:] No it was
[Arthur:] still, I expect it does.
[speaker001:] Yeah it was last night.
[Evelyn:] Did you see the football match?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Tha, well you didn't see much of it did you?
[speaker001:] Oh no not
[Evelyn:] We only saw the last
[speaker001:] No.
[Evelyn:] few minutes of it.
[speaker001:] Oh yeah, I was
[Arthur:] Didn't you see
[speaker001:] I was washing some bottles off.
[Arthur:] Didn't you see the
[speaker001:] Started making
[Arthur:] Madge.
[speaker001:] a brew again.
[Arthur:] One of the footballers did the same as Evelyn. He, he, he leaped onto somebody in the goal mouth... where the post was... and i, he turned on a, off the other way in the post, and he landed like that... and
[speaker001:] Oh.
[Arthur:] and, then they said, is there a... orthopaedic surgeon in the audience?
[Evelyn:] In the crowd.
[Arthur:] This boy is lose
[speaker001:] Oh.
[Arthur:] he's broke his arm.
[speaker001:] Chapman. Ah!
[Evelyn:] On his hand it was.
[speaker001:] Lee Chapman.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And he's er
[Arthur:] Er, you know, he saved hisself with this er
[speaker001:] Yeah. Of course, you automatically if you're falling you put your hands out don't you Yeah. to save yourself? Yeah.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Somebody told Evelyn they got a, she got a thousand pounds for... slipping on... pavement.
[speaker001:] Oh! Yeah.
[Arthur:] But you... but you gotta prove the negligence.
[Evelyn:] You gotta prove, well I I couldn't see
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] anything that I slipped on.
[Arthur:] No.
[speaker001:] No.
[Arthur:] You know why?
[Evelyn:] Not a cabbage leaf or... there wasn't... orange peel
[Arthur:] Madge.
[Evelyn:] so
[Arthur:] Your sister's a bit naive! Er, you look... she falls, er, two or three rush to her, the stall holder fetches a chair, they're all round her... his son's picking up the bit she slipped on.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Course he does! Yes! Ooh yes!
[Arthur:] She'd fallen, she'd
[Evelyn:] But why go to all that? Yeah.
[speaker001:] Ah!
[Arthur:] But... I mean
[speaker001:] Ooh yes!
[Arthur:] that's the way I'd work.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Yes!
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] That shows how crafty you are then doesn't it!
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Yeah well. I'm not like that, I can't, I can't
[Evelyn:] You think too much.
[speaker001:] you know
[Arthur:] I always think now
[speaker001:] Oh I don't know.
[Arthur:] what's the motive?
[Evelyn:] Er yes, well
[speaker001:] Afterwards then, don't you? You know how market people think do you? Well! Yeah you do! Mm. [LAUGHTER]... Er
[Arthur:] Yeah, so I mean, it's horrible what they do to animals isn't it?
[speaker001:] Oh it is! Yeah! Oh! It is. Pigs, they just lie there and get fat! Well what's the meat going to be like? Yeah. Eh? Yeah. And what are we going to be like eating it?
[Evelyn:] Well pork isn't an... any... now is it?
[speaker001:] Well No diet in it now. Nothing is it? Er, and it's hard! It never used to be hard!
[Evelyn:] a tender bit of pork.
[speaker001:] Well it's, it used to melt in your mouth hadn't it?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[speaker001:] And it don't smell And all this. the same when it's cooking either
[Evelyn:] No!
[speaker001:] does it? Loin of pork
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] you know, roasted
[Evelyn:] It used to be
[speaker001:] When our
[Evelyn:] beautiful!
[speaker001:] melt in your mouth! when were at home... we had to have it every week didn't we? Yeah. Cos they didn't like beef.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Didn't like mutton, lamb. They like beef now.
[Evelyn:] I don't like
[Arthur:] Well you know that
[Evelyn:] beef.
[Arthur:] you know that teapot we have on the Welsh dresser like a cockerel?
[speaker001:] Yeah. Well I've got
[Arthur:] Er you get some man come and gave me ten pound for it.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] What's it going?
[Evelyn:] Yeah. He came to get it.
[Arthur:] We just met him today.
[Evelyn:] Apparently he brought somebody who wa, who was
[speaker001:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] interested in that little... what is it? That wa... the little
[Arthur:] ?
[Evelyn:] No. The little thing on the front... in the front. That's what he came to see. That one you mended the foot of. I don't know what you call, that little old man.
[Arthur:] Oh right! Yeah, they got
[Evelyn:] He came
[Arthur:] that.
[Evelyn:] in a way se, he came to look at that.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] But anyway he wasn't interested. Then he saw the
[Arthur:] He said it were continental something and th
[Evelyn:] Yeah. And then he he saw this Welsh dresser, he said I'll give you ten pounds for that.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And, I've got too many things on the Welsh dresser anyway. And he didn't leave a card.
[speaker001:] And they always need dusting don't they?
[Evelyn:] So, I thought, ooh ten pound! Might as well have it!
[speaker001:] Have it! Yeah!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Too true!
[Evelyn:] Well I mean I've... we're always breaking the blooming things!
[speaker001:] Things. Ye, well you've got too Yeah. many you do.
[Evelyn:] You do. I mean, you broke one of my best wine glasses the other day!
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] One day so you
[Arthur:] But
[Evelyn:] bought it.
[Arthur:] it slipped. Er you're only supposed to drink
[Evelyn:] I said to him where's my wine glass?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Yes, but when you're working, like and you
[Evelyn:] Next thing I knew I heard a crash
[speaker001:] Crash.
[Arthur:] when you're bricklaying and gardening all the works
[speaker001:] That's why I just keep my old ones up there that we use every da, er, you know
[Evelyn:] Well I
[speaker001:] and I've got my best all in the sideboard
[Evelyn:] I'd got some
[speaker001:] cupboard. I'd got some old but we broke all the old ones, so we're having to use the best [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Arthur:] She always told
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] me that, when visitors come you, you gi, you give them the
[speaker001:] Give them
[Arthur:] old ones in case they
[Evelyn:] No I don't!
[Arthur:] drop them!
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] Don't stir []!
[speaker001:] Oh dear!
[Arthur:] No but when you're at work Madge, er, bricklaying and er filing... your hands are rough... now they're like
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] silk
[speaker001:] Yeah. And they slip.
[Arthur:] I pick something up
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] and being eighty
[speaker001:] It slips.
[Arthur:] two as well, you
[speaker001:] Slip!
[Arthur:] can't afford
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] to... still!
[speaker001:] Yeah. Oh well. Well that's what I do.
[Arthur:] And you sold half your ring and all, didn't you want to cut up?
[Evelyn:] Oh yes. Well they made such a mess of this ring!
[Arthur:] Then when
[speaker001:] Are you had a new one? I know you
[Evelyn:] I lo, no.
[speaker001:] Not yet.
[Evelyn:] I haven't got my wedding ring on yet!
[speaker001:] Oh have you?
[Evelyn:] No.
[speaker001:] No.
[Evelyn:] Because we got that off. Because
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] the minute I saw what a mess she'd made
[speaker001:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] of the engagement ring. She had about three tries, nicks!
[speaker001:] Ridiculous int it! Ah! You were lucky they ne
[Evelyn:] And I said I think... I think you'll get my wedding off... without cutting it. So, she got a bit more soft soap
[Arthur:] all that
[Evelyn:] so
[Arthur:] Ka, er Madge
[speaker001:] Mm? What is it?
[Arthur:] Er you'll you'll make it rough, like.
[speaker001:] What is it?
[Evelyn:] And er, it's my
[speaker001:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] microphone.
[speaker001:] Ooh!
[Evelyn:] And er
[speaker001:] Oh and you, you were saying... you
[Evelyn:] I got the
[speaker001:] you're doing it
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] while we... Oh
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] heck! I didn't realise that! [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Well that's the best thing,yo you shouldn't er... you don't have to be aware.
[speaker001:] Oh! You ought to have told me!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Well just
[Evelyn:] And er
[speaker001:] said anything!
[Evelyn:] So they got my wedding ring off, but I still can't get it on.
[speaker001:] How awful!
[Arthur:] But they erm... it's really
[speaker001:] Mind you, it's still
[Evelyn:] Mind you, it's not
[speaker001:] swollen.
[Evelyn:] It's
[speaker001:] Yeah, it's still swollen.
[Evelyn:] you
[speaker001:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] just down there.
[speaker001:] Oh it'll be a
[Arthur:] But er
[speaker001:] long time.
[Evelyn:] You know when yours when was swollen er
[speaker001:] Mind you, that's where I forget... I, I know my fingers look like... black puddings!
[Evelyn:] Ooh mine look terrible!
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] , you know, I thought ooh
[Evelyn:] I couldn't always swi, I couldn't even switch a light till
[speaker001:] No.
[Evelyn:] last week!
[speaker001:] You couldn't?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] But er
[speaker001:] No.
[Arthur:] since you done it we've been looking in... jewellers' shops when I go, I go up town twice a week with her, you know, carry all the bags, and er... we're looking in the jewellers' shop and some old, some lady stood there and, she were looking... I says, come on they don't wear marriage ri, wedding rings there!
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] You ought to have seen the old girl!
[Evelyn:] No, but cos there... there, it feels a bit
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] bit funny!
[speaker001:] Does it?
[Evelyn:] Cos then there's nothing
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] that... you know, no circulation there.
[speaker001:] Yeah. Ah! Ah!
[Evelyn:] In that side of my thumb.
[speaker001:] It's cold. It's cold.
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] Just outside of my thumb.
[speaker001:] In your thumb.
[Evelyn:] It's different from that side.
[speaker001:] Ah!
[Evelyn:] Just that bit.
[speaker001:] Perhaps I forget, you see.
[Arthur:] Yeah, turn it straight like this.
[Evelyn:] Right.
[speaker001:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Now can you do this?
[speaker001:] You should keep rubbing it.
[Arthur:] Lo look, like that? No! Not twist that... look, sidewards, that way, that way, that way.
[Evelyn:] Mm. No.
[Arthur:] You can't can you?
[Evelyn:] No I can't do that.
[speaker001:] No, not do that. Well the time's young yet, you know for any anything like that.
[Evelyn:] Yeah, oh it is really. That's it.
[speaker001:] Oh aye, it'll take Yes. a long time to
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[speaker001:] er
[Evelyn:] Oh I can... I don't carry two cups... I ca, daren't carry a cup and saucer
[speaker001:] No.
[Evelyn:] in that hand.
[speaker001:] No.
[Evelyn:] And one in the other.
[speaker001:] Ooh no!
[Evelyn:] No.
[speaker001:] No.
[Evelyn:] I daren't er
[speaker001:] No.
[Arthur:] But our, our
[Evelyn:] But I can... I can
[Arthur:] ... Tom, how on earth she will... been round all of these, do you know... I've, I'm like this...
[speaker001:] I know!
[Arthur:] well after he's been all this while.
[speaker001:] I told, I told her time!
[Evelyn:] Yes, but half the time you've got library books as well. We go in the town, I'm in the hairdresser
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Yes but you won't
[Evelyn:] and I say we're going, getting shopping... only fruit and veg in the market... then he comes back with about four big library books! Well they weigh a ton, so
[Arthur:] So
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Yes, anyway
[speaker001:] Eve, but listen, when you've been out with me on a Monday I've said to you... you've only had a cauliflower and yo... apples there. [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Put it in there and.
[Arthur:] [cough]
[Evelyn:] That was a good morning's work really. Got the shopping done for the next fortnight.... Got a few more voices on for the... tape.... Why I had my dinner, I haven't got the same as you.
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] I had that meat that you
[Arthur:] You've got
[Evelyn:] didn't like, yesterday and some rice.
[Arthur:] You've got chicken fricassee I suppose.
[Evelyn:] No! You've got shepherd's pie. I can see, well that meat wasn't as good... as it used to... usually get
[Arthur:] No I... I ge, there was lump o
[Evelyn:] And yet it was
[Arthur:] left and I cut it up this morning before you got up and I couldn't cut it with the scissors!
[Evelyn:] So I've, I I did some rice and ha had it, but... might just as well have thrown it away. So I made you, I'd got
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] some other beef. What's that like?
[Arthur:] Yeah!
[Evelyn:] That's alright is it?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Eh! Guess who rang while you were out... in
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] the garden?
[Arthur:] Joan.
[Evelyn:] George.
[Arthur:] Ah!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] I said, oh, we were only talking about you... yesterday [].
[Arthur:] What's he say?
[Evelyn:] He says he's feeling a lot better and he's back on the road.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] So I shouldn't think he's been driving for some time and
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] he's back from Catherine's.
[Arthur:] Is he coming?
[Evelyn:] I sa I said erm... well, how about coming for lunch one day? Oh! He said, yes, I will do. He said erm... I ca, I can't make... arrangements much in advance because I never know how... I'm feeling.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] He seems to me, a bit like Joan doesn't it?
[Arthur:] Yeah it probably is with the trauma of losing his wife.
[Evelyn:] So... er... anyway
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] he sa he said I'll keep in touch.
[Arthur:] Yeah well he's been looking after her for, for years ain't he?
[Evelyn:] Mm. So e e, he said I'll keep in touch. And I said, oh well... if I don't hear from you I'll ring you again and perhaps we can... arrange something. So er, he was going to
[Arthur:] Did you, so you didn't tell him I'd like him to see my paintings?
[Evelyn:] Well I
[speaker001:] What else did George say... apart from the fact... will he come and see the paintings do you think?
[Evelyn:] Mm! Yes, he said erm... he'll keep in touch now, he's feeling better... and erm... he was going friendship... ha... toni... this afternoon and he was taking a an... lady from across the road so... he's.
[Arthur:] He'll still run his car then.
[Evelyn:] Yes. He said he's back on the road so... presumably he's erm
[Arthur:] Not been driving.
[Evelyn:] No. Well... probably in his sa state
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] of health... he didn't license the car.
[Arthur:] Just go and get the other. At least we've poured your tea and a... have you?
[Evelyn:] Is that better? I think we did a good morning's work then.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Well I think... being outside in the garden and cleaning
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] the car perhaps helped your cold a bit, do you think?
[Arthur:] Possibly.
[Evelyn:] Have another dose of that erm
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] buttercup syrup.
[Arthur:] What's it got in?
[Evelyn:] I don't know, but it's good.
[Arthur:] The big... the big pigeons down look.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Ooh it's a lovely day today.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I think we did well to wait until now do you?
[Arthur:] Mm mm!
[Evelyn:] So, I'll be alright to go... to the hairdresser myself in the morning.
[Arthur:] No you won't.
[Evelyn:] Oh yes I will! I was alright this morning. I haven't got anything
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] to carry. So, I'm going on my own tomorrow.... Well
[Arthur:] Well you
[Evelyn:] you can do a bit of taping of those records.
[Arthur:] you got the man to help you on with your coat.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]... There's nothing. Italian, Canadian
[Arthur:] There was two big ones, look!
[Evelyn:] There was three there the other day.... I thought you said you were going easy on that seed?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] That's the old seed... they're taken there
[Arthur:] Well that doesn't... I know! But you didn't buy that till Tuesday! It's only Thursday now! It'll last till Monday.... Well you didn't want them sitting till dark then go off did you?
[Evelyn:] Well you, put about ten piles out!
[Arthur:] Well if there's three er... nations thrown into one, how did they get here?
[Evelyn:] Two nations!
[Arthur:] Italian, Canadian, and they're British.
[Evelyn:] I didn't say that was a British. I don't know what nationality is that. Well Canadian... you know... might have been that his father was in the Canadian army in the war.... Well his brother's in the army.... Anyway
[Arthur:] When I was a lad a man went in the ar, he hooked up with the army if he'd got no trade and no... hope
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] of a job
[Evelyn:] Well they won't have them now will they?
[Arthur:] Or if he'd, er... been... thieving.
[Evelyn:] They won't have those sort in... I mean, look, they wouldn't have Robert in would they?... I mean, he hadn't really got any... educational qualifications and
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] then they said... he was a bit too... thin, not, not so
[Arthur:] Robust enough.
[Evelyn:] robust enough.
[Arthur:] Another pigeon come in.
[Evelyn:] I told you there's three!... Oh! We don't want a colony of those. I shall have it.
[Arthur:] Have a drop of that
[Evelyn:] I'm going to have some more of that medicine. Said three times a day. Are you going to have a dose now?
[Arthur:] Mm. When I haven't got my dinner down.
[Evelyn:] Do you want any more?
[Arthur:] No..... Finish erm
[Evelyn:] I think I'll have an orange to finish off my
[Arthur:] Mm. What do you make of this play do you think?
[Evelyn:] Well... well it's an old thing i it's... they've raked old
[Arthur:] Oh well they always do rake
[Evelyn:] old things back.
[Arthur:] stir the mud up don't they?
[Evelyn:] I've not read the paper anyway yet. [clears throat]... [cough]... I think they want to sell the papers on Saturday. I don't think people buy it so much on... have you seen, they're going to give you a weeks'... television
[Arthur:] Yeah. Oh that's good.
[Evelyn:] programmes, look. You've just turned it over. I can... you turned two pages over. Look.
[Arthur:] What's the idea?
[Evelyn:] So they sell more papers on Saturday. I don't think they sell so many.
[Arthur:] Where?
[Evelyn:] No, the next page.... Mm mm. I saw you as you turned some over.
[Arthur:] How have we done?
[Evelyn:] No! [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] How would you feel []?
[Arthur:] Bloody rough!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] But they don't come back again.... Especially with this er aids thing.
[Evelyn:] There! Free seven day... T V guide, there are.
[Arthur:] Especially with this aid business.... Eh? You don't know who else he's been with do you? Normally, you know where your husband's been but... if the husband's away and you go in... you don't know where he's been do you?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] If I were a girl I wouldn't let a man go near me!
[Evelyn:] Mm. Alright. Maxwell's son loses... a thousand a minute on roulette!
[Arthur:] I see. Must have some money then.
[Evelyn:] No you're hurting me! Stop!
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Do you want half this orange?
[Arthur:] Mm. Cut me a slice
[Evelyn:] They're big ones.
[Arthur:] if you like.
[Evelyn:] It... it soothes your throat. It's soothing my throat. I don't mean, no.
[Arthur:] That's alright innit? Well I always thought the paper was better because you have to,sa so many things don't you? Mind you, they did have all the satellite and all that didn't we?... You seen all these page they done?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]... It's not the paper it was.
[Arthur:] [reading newspaper] joints, and muscle [].
[Evelyn:] And what does it say about your... shoulder?
[Arthur:] Oh look!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] You could put it straight down.
[Evelyn:] Well we've got the Radio Times in the other room.
[Arthur:] They made a bloody good start without putting in ink!
[Evelyn:] I know that one about today's news. We've got a Radio Times!
[Arthur:] Yeah, you, well you can see these all in one go.... [reading] Clint Eastwood... nine forty [].
[Evelyn:] I'm not sitting up to that.
[Arthur:] Twenty to ten.
[Evelyn:] I know, but it'll be midnight before it finishes won't it?
[Arthur:] Are they all gone er... are they all gone?
[Evelyn:] No, the big ones are still there. Did you speak to Jackie, did you say?
[Arthur:] No, I, I
[Evelyn:] Or, oh!
[Arthur:] was in the dressing room and... [reading] Arabian Nights, two o'clock []. Oh we've missed that!
[Evelyn:] It's three o'clock now.... I liked Kath's hall... didn't you?
[Arthur:] You liked what?
[Evelyn:] Kath's hall.
[Arthur:] Yo, yeah but
[Evelyn:] Unusual wasn't it, how he'd done it!
[Arthur:] It's the same place though int it when er
[Evelyn:] Well... Is there anything any good on?
[Arthur:] Only the Arabian Nights at two and that's gone.
[Evelyn:] Well I don't like those things.
[Arthur:] And then there's Cli, Clint Eastwood at twenty to ten.
[Evelyn:] Nothing in between?
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] Well, the garden certainly looks better for your little... clear up
[Arthur:] Well it looks
[Evelyn:] doesn't it?
[Arthur:] looks tidier doesn't it?
[Evelyn:] Well I don't think you'd done it since Christmas had you?
[Arthur:] Since Christmas, aye. [reading] Dad's Army at eight [].
[Evelyn:] That's on the satellite.
[Arthur:] Comedy channel. Mm.
[Evelyn:] Wasn't very good last week, really was it?
[Arthur:] No.... They're all grown now ain't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm. The
[Arthur:] Tom
[Evelyn:] doctor said he'd got a collar on his neck again didn't he?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I meant to ask him and erm... well I got er... interrupted.
[Arthur:] It was in there when we went?
[Evelyn:] Madge was cleaning the windows!
[Arthur:] Mm.... Er, with a broken arm.
[Evelyn:] She hadn't got a broken arm.
[Arthur:] Well she did have.
[Evelyn:] That was years ago!
[Arthur:] I know! But it was that the arm she were using.
[Evelyn:] I expect so. It was the right that she broke. Lord! I think that's, that's a fire down there! Fire smoke isn't it?
[Arthur:] Yeah, perhaps burning er winter rubbish. Card boxes and things. But they make dustbins big enough now int it?
[Evelyn:] Now, yes.... I mean there's no, no, no... smoke
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] on this end so it must be. You haven't drunk your beer.
[Arthur:] It looks, have you swi... switched, it is switched on, what you doing?
[Evelyn:] Oh it is... oh!
[Arthur:] Press that black button.
[speaker001:] in here. Aren't you too hot?
[Arthur:] Yes I am. Switch
[Evelyn:] Ooh!
[Arthur:] it off now then.
[Evelyn:] I've switched it on.
[Arthur:] Er... er, I mean switch that.
[Evelyn:] Oh! I think that er... a bit of fresh air... might have done me good do you?
[Arthur:] I think that butter
[Evelyn:] What the... buttercup mixture?
[Arthur:] this morning.
[Evelyn:] You think it... do you want another dose?
[Arthur:] Go and clear my throat
[Evelyn:] Er no it's not, it's not time yet.
[Arthur:] See if, my throat feels dry.... Coughing bad this morning weren't I?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Well you... oh it says if you... have a dose last thing at night it helps you sleep.
[Arthur:] This er...?
[Evelyn:] It might.
[Arthur:] Madge?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] Oh has she been taking it then?
[Evelyn:] Well she sa says it's the best... that she's had lately.
[Arthur:] Does she take it regular?
[Evelyn:] Yes. Although I've heard of it before. They were new just before Christmas!
[Arthur:] Oh!
[Evelyn:] The colour seems to come out of there don't it?... I don't mind them that colour really.
[Arthur:] No, it's alright.
[Evelyn:] If you get them too red
[Arthur:] You don't see them do you?
[Evelyn:] er,i... it's dar, too, they're too dark.
[Arthur:] [yawn]
[Evelyn:] Oh, that's how I feel now!... Kath's carpet keeps well doesn't it? I meant to ask her if she'd got a Vax machine because
[Arthur:] And they don't take their shoes off when they go in, cos... we saw them go in didn't
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] we?
[Evelyn:] I mean er
[Arthur:] Where did they go, in the... village?
[Evelyn:] I mean that carpet was at the other house. She's had it ever since she's been in that house.
[Arthur:] Where did they go, to the village shops?
[Evelyn:] No. They went to Tesco on Burnham Leas
[Arthur:] You never go there do you?
[Evelyn:] No. Well it's... you don't like going that district do you? Anyway, I never did like Tescos much as Sainsburys.
[Arthur:] Sa, Sainsburys a very good name!
[Evelyn:] Well I think Tesco have gone up-market... from what they were... years ago.... But erm... Kath's little vase.
[Arthur:] I think it's terrible but
[Evelyn:] She, no she said, [LAUGHTER] oh I like the little vase you brought me []! I said, we haven't brought it to... for you. Oh!
[Arthur:] And yet the er... vase, don't even collect do they?
[Evelyn:] No. Oh well... we didn't want to sell them anyway.
[Arthur:] Not really, no.
[Evelyn:] They'd just go right in our... edge o, end of that shelf I think.
[Arthur:] Ooh ooh ooh ooh!
[Evelyn:] Oh! Don't be rude!
[Arthur:] Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh!
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Arthur! That's not []!
[Arthur:] Hey? Well don't they do it?
[Evelyn:] No! It's about time you finished that beer. I should think it's flat by now!... Ooh it is hot in here!
[Arthur:] Well you're not drinking it!
[Evelyn:] Have you had that fire on full while
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I've been in here?
[Arthur:] Yes. Mhm. You're
[Evelyn:] Ooh!
[Arthur:] not drinking out of somebody elses' glass are you?
[Evelyn:] Well you don't in pubs do you?
[Arthur:] Do you remember that one coming back from Hinkley and the butter was on the.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] We had a
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] and a buttered cob.
[Evelyn:] Vince's new car looks nice don't it? Looks in good condition.
[Arthur:] What does?
[Evelyn:] Vince's new car.
[Arthur:] Oh! Not bad. But... how many's that they had, nine?
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]...... And she said er... it's only a lady owner and she knew her and, who lived in Burston, lived not far away so
[Arthur:] Well it's cos the lady owner cos they keep... ja, jamming the gears and everything!
[Evelyn:] Mm. So?
[Arthur:] Mind you, they look real don't they?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] About a hundred miles.
[Evelyn:] Mm.... Fancy that farm not having any egg boxes for the eggs!
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] I mean a, I've been throwing mine away now we can't get them at the other farm, I mean... and I said if we do, we'd better keep
[Arthur:] Ke
[Evelyn:] them and take some in the car. I mean, we, we couldn't have carried them
[Arthur:] Well I said it, told you to get some just to put them in the garage when it's hot.
[Evelyn:] Well I always buy them in boxes now. Well I wouldn't keep them in the garage anyway.
[Arthur:] It's cool out there.
[Evelyn:] I've got to find somewhere to put all that sugar.
[Arthur:] Up in the loft, on a tread board.
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] Under the boxes.
[Evelyn:] No. I might get some more seville oranges next week and make another lot.
[Arthur:] [yawning] Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah []!
[Evelyn:] Tt!... Don't be silly!
[Arthur:] It was a bad night last night.
[Evelyn:] You did? Didn't think you did. I never heard you.
[Arthur:] And got a raw chest and that.
[Evelyn:] Have you looked in the programmes for tonight?
[Arthur:] No, I haven't
[Evelyn:] Where is
[Arthur:] got
[Evelyn:] oh here it is!
[Arthur:] I told you the films didn't I, er earlier?
[Evelyn:] No. They were this afternoon's.
[Arthur:] Or Eas er,Eas fro, who is it on? Eastwood. It is Eastwood.
[Evelyn:] Ooh! Have you seen
[Arthur:] What?
[Evelyn:] [reading] Allied campaigning the Gulf War... nine thirty [].... No. Nine forty the film. That's on till eleven thirty
[Arthur:] That's the Eas Eastwood one.
[Evelyn:] Yes, that's that's it?
[Arthur:] Thunderbolt something What's it called?
[Evelyn:] Thunderbolt and Lightwood.
[Arthur:] What time is that?
[Evelyn:] Nine forty till eleven
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] thirty. No, that's too late.... Oh no. Not much on is there really, today?
[Arthur:] No.... Well there's Dad's Army at eight.
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] In er...
[Evelyn:] Perpetual Motion... about the in Shackleton
[Arthur:] Who's he?
[Evelyn:] Not who! What! Story of the defunct
[speaker001:] Shackleton Plain... front line of Britain's defence.... Ooh! That, that one, King of the Wind... that boy's love for a sa er well stallion, you said you wanted to see that when it was on the other day. Do you want to see it? Six fifteen.
[Arthur:] Can if you want. We can have it. It's been on several days recently.
[Evelyn:] I know, but you, last time it was on you said, ooh I wouldn't have minded seeing that.... I've not finished reading the morning paper yet.... [cough]... Candid Camera, six thirty.
[Arthur:] Eve, would you say you were going somewhere? Cos I want
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] Oh. Squinty eye there. Look at his nose!
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] There's Andrew look.... today... bit fatuous... [reading newspaper] It's rare for a wife to go on holiday with a male friend []. [LAUGHTER] I shouldn't have thought it possible []. a male there.
[Evelyn:] Have you read about that boy who's his
[Arthur:] Ah yeah.
[Evelyn:] arms chopped off?
[Arthur:] Did they sew them back?
[Evelyn:] Well, they're trying but they're not sure whether... they will be successful.... I should like something nice? Do you? Drink?
[Arthur:] Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] Well you've still got your beer haven't you?
[Arthur:] I drank it.
[speaker001:] What, what made Les er... lend you the records... to tape?
[Arthur:] I dunno. Well he he'd got a, and if I'd got to do it... you know, another day, his er...... perhaps start and er... i, well you know when he came for a meal and saw all that?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] He said then I've got a lot of tapes you know, says... sit in here
[Evelyn:] Oh well.
[Arthur:] and do them all, pick out what you want. Or
[Evelyn:] Oh!
[Arthur:] all of them, you know. And er... then er
[Evelyn:] [whispering] No, put it there. No you put it there []!
[Arthur:] Oh! What's this in aid of?
[Evelyn:] No you don't. It won't reach. It won't reach!
[Arthur:] Yeah, it will....
[Evelyn:] Well anyway,th they're good ones aren't they? It'll give us a comprehensive selection. Won't it?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Don't think we'll ne need to buy any more re, well records do you?
[Arthur:] I shouldn't think so. That's why I wanted to start them so I gave them back to him. Cos, they're at risk
[Evelyn:] Well he said
[Arthur:] while you've got them anyway.
[Evelyn:] Well he said we can keep them as long as
[Arthur:] I know, but you might fall over them, drop one.
[Evelyn:] No! You won't.
[Arthur:] But er... anywa, the... there's about another thirty seconds on the tape, what would you do?
[Evelyn:] Just run it off. Well you could put the other si, side
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] on. Put the other side on.
[Arthur:] int it?
[Evelyn:] Put the other side on and then... get a new tape ready... ready to er
[Arthur:] Well you couldn't have anybody more careful than me could you?
[Evelyn:] No. Oh no. You do take care of them. There's your hanky. I think they've taken care of them. They don't seem to be scratched do they?
[Arthur:] Well do don't look as if they've been used does it?
[Evelyn:] Well she said they only have them on er
[Arthur:] Perhaps they don't like er
[Evelyn:] Christmas time.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] Probably look at the television all the time.
[Arthur:] Got a bit of dust on
[Evelyn:] Is that the
[Arthur:] there.
[Evelyn:] other
[Arthur:] The needle's picking the dust up.
[Evelyn:] Is that the other side.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Now we've gotta see what we got on there.
[Evelyn:] Well just, finish that tape off with it.
[Arthur:] Look, we got that bit there.
[Evelyn:] Yeah, well finish the tape off and then a new one ready
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] to put straight in.
[Arthur:] Er
[Evelyn:] I mean... for this market research one, we ought to finish this tonight because if she comes tomorrow
[Arthur:] Which one?
[Evelyn:] This tape that's in... this erm... [music]... this market research tape.
[Arthur:] Which one, market research?
[Evelyn:] This is, this one! That we're recording for that lady! We've got
[Arthur:] Oh yeah.
[Evelyn:] to finish this tape because she were coming tomorrow for it!
[Arthur:] So she wants some music does she?
[Evelyn:] No! She doesn't want the music!
[Arthur:] What are you doing with it then? You started it! What you doing? [music]
[Evelyn:] [whispering] [].
[Arthur:] I thought they were helping you to do that.
[Evelyn:] Well take it off then! I'll take this off then!
[Arthur:] Yeah well... how do you do this? Couldn't you have left well alone!
[Evelyn:] That's okay.
[Arthur:] ... Got a good selection haven't they? They, they are very good... they are. [LAUGHTER]... Do you hear that.
[Evelyn:] Well you always wanted a piano.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] According your that is.
[Arthur:] And I wanted, I wanted Conways.
[Evelyn:] I thought you were going to put that low so that if... so that if this did pick it up er... it didn't make any difference.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] You sit in there. Don't sit on there.
[Arthur:] I wish I could er... well don't, don't... you know, that's a record case there!
[Evelyn:] Well... we always clean, the carpet's clean!
[Arthur:] What when people walk in... dirt?
[Evelyn:] No!
[Arthur:] And you go out and you ca... That's finished anyway.
[Evelyn:] Have you got another tape ready.
[Arthur:] I can do, I think, stop it.
[Evelyn:] How many more have you got left from the Christmas box tapes?
[Arthur:] Two, four... two or four I should think. This one here, I think that's been play, that's been played on.
[Evelyn:] I told you to keep the new ones separate. You'll get them all mixed up!
[Arthur:] See how it goes. They are.
[Evelyn:] Oh. Good! Oh!
[Arthur:] What's that?
[Evelyn:] Nothing.
[Arthur:] Baker Conway, he's is a... we wanted one... of his things.
[Evelyn:] Yes. And you got him now for nothing.
[Arthur:] I think he went on a liner.
[Evelyn:] Well he did!
[Arthur:] And then
[Evelyn:] Well all of his
[Arthur:] and erm one of them lost th use of his fingers. It wasn't when they
[Evelyn:] I think that was him.
[Arthur:] Probably was.... I wish I'd have carried on with piano lessons. But then we used to se
[Evelyn:] Your mum must have read that little finger.
[Arthur:] Then we used to sniff, you know, and... Mrs come and knocked on the front door... says er, our house is asleep do you mind not playing, you know. Cos er... there were only four and a half inch divide in brick walls.
[Evelyn:] Mm. Yeah! Mm.
[Arthur:] So I mean... not double. These er, these mi might be the same, but... you can't expect to have to stop sound going through a four and a half inch wall can you?
[Evelyn:] We had a piano but... nobody
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] ever complained about us practising.
[Arthur:] Well, you got good neighbours then, that's all I can say.... She came and knocked on the door and then we went back and I, I said what you stopped for? I says er, so I said, started playing... ten minutes, she couldn't have got up the stairs and were back again!
[Evelyn:] Mm!
[Arthur:] Asking us to stop. So that was it. That ended the first on my piano. I mean, you can't practise piano if people next door complain can you?... Can you?
[Evelyn:] Well
[Arthur:] I mean er
[Evelyn:] Well most people did have pianos and er... practised.
[Arthur:] Well, you know when I used to come to you... walk across cos of the trams, Christmas day, all down Argyle Street every a a ev, they were bulging you know!
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] But... sometimes the door was open... and they'd do it all out the front doors like this a and... fresh, fresh people trying to get in. And th the pianos were going full blast!
[Evelyn:] Well I told you Gordon... brought his drums to our house
[Arthur:] Well
[Evelyn:] one Christmas!
[Arthur:] well must have been different neighbours to [LAUGHTER] my day []!
[Evelyn:] You know, because we'd got a piano, he'd got a drum set for Christmas. He was about seventeen or eighteen then.... I thought you said
[Arthur:] A
[Evelyn:] it was nearly finished?
[Arthur:] The tape's still running. It's about finished now. This is.... Sh shall I put another tape in for the rest of it?
[Evelyn:] Yes, that's what I said, put a new tape in.
[Arthur:] You might have got it ready for me!
[Evelyn:] I told you to get th ta, one ready!
[Arthur:] Well, still haven't got it.... These have been undone though haven't they?
[Evelyn:] Well I don't know.
[Arthur:] Well there's no wrapping.
[Evelyn:] Well they're about to, five in a, in a big wrapper... that's why they're lose. Side A.
[Arthur:] But I mean... there's two at the back with individual wrappers.
[Evelyn:] Mm. I don't know.
[Arthur:] Look!
[Evelyn:] Well i, you're, you're the
[Arthur:] How much of these two do I
[Evelyn:] expert on that.
[Arthur:] want to do? There's nothing on the.
[Evelyn:] No. Well side, [cough]
[Arthur:] How much do you have?
[Evelyn:] [cough] [music]
[Arthur:] Do you wish you could go back to the good old days?
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] You don't?
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] Why? The wa
[Evelyn:] Just making sure.
[Arthur:] The way you carried your shoes in a brown paper bag and when you were at ours. When you
[Evelyn:] When you're dancing?
[Arthur:] when you were going out and the had stopped... and all the girls... had a... you know, the ordinary paper bag with a... got their shoes in there.
[Evelyn:] Oh I know! I remember.
[Arthur:] They never change their shoes though now
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] do they?
[Evelyn:] Anyway, they all have taxis now.
[Arthur:] Yeah. True.
[Evelyn:] Oh, we know this one don't we?
[Arthur:] Mm.... Oh! I was always annoyed though, Phil and George were... magnificent dancers and... the chap I used to... walk out with sometimes...... he er... he'd... he... he used say now that I look like this! He used to dance like that.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Behind his back, like this. He wasn't, I wasn't in it, you know, something like that.
[Evelyn:] Well, you danced well when we went to.
[Arthur:] I could do park parade tha, a girl was, er er anywa, I went in the factory and one of the girls says... they were... saying about a dance, says ooh I... quite a few... you ought to see him dance the park parade! Course, I'd been to Cecille's, half a crown for an hour.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Every Saturday.
[Evelyn:] I went there for lessons.
[Arthur:] Did you? And er... she walked on front of... there were twenty of us in two rows
[Evelyn:] I know how I, [cough]
[Arthur:] she walked on front... doing the steps
[Evelyn:] [cough]
[Arthur:] and she says I'm going to walk wi, with my back so I'm going to listen... says, ooh! There's one there he he missed the step. And I said, it was m, I was called out you know a pa, a partner like... I said it was [LAUGHTER] Lesley! But he said no, no, no []! Oh! And then
[Evelyn:] We know this one don't we?
[Arthur:] in Rushden I er... see to all the girls... dancing, you know, like a... like you, when you were young. And I went, would she take, he says yes er half, I say, half a crown er a, for half an hour... every Friday. But er... I dunno er... some other pe they, I always felt such a fool, you know! And they were looking at me and... I thought this int my cup of tea!
[Evelyn:] [whispering] Turn it down a bit.... [whispering] [].
[Arthur:] Well that's what they want to hear.
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] I know this []. I know this one.
[Arthur:] The rain in spain felt mainly on the rain!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER] That's not the right phrase []!
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]... Mainly on the plane. The plane. Well that's... er I keep getting that.
[Evelyn:] Ooh I love!... Won't you just sit down!
[Arthur:] Well I keep getting up. This is a bit boring, you know, sort of jumping.
[Evelyn:] Well, just sit down then! Sit down! It's a bit too loud.... That's better.
[Arthur:] Where did you start dancing?
[Evelyn:] I told you! I went to Cecille's. Well we would have had at school.
[Arthur:] Did you go to any church dances? We went to St.
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] Pace I think it was and er... i
[Evelyn:] What in Grandon Street?
[Arthur:] No. That church near you, er... the Imperial... up Spinney Park that way.
[Evelyn:] Oh no, I don't know any churches round here.
[Arthur:] Anyway, er... there was er... the floor was six inch... three inch floor boards and they'd been danced and... da
[Evelyn:] They'd just put chalk down didn't they?
[Arthur:] and the nuts, yeah
[Evelyn:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] they used to go out sprin... and the nuts' d come above the wood.
[Evelyn:] Yeah, I do know, yeah.
[Arthur:] You know. And they used to sprinkle some fresh
[Evelyn:] Chalk.
[Arthur:] chalk all over.
[Evelyn:] Mm! I'm pleased we've got this record now!
[Arthur:] Yeah!
[Evelyn:] Aren't you?
[Arthur:] Been trying everywhere to get one didn't we?
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] Beats all the re... rock and roll don't it, really?
[Evelyn:] Mm. Although, they've got some surprisingly
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] modern ones
[Arthur:] Modern, yeah.
[Evelyn:] in theirs.
[Arthur:] Di, was Madge a good dancer?
[Evelyn:] No, I don't think Madge and Tom would dance much.
[Arthur:] What about Kathleen?
[Evelyn:] Mm. I don't think they went all that much. Well she was young in them day anyway,an... the war came along didn't it?
[Arthur:] Yes but
[Evelyn:] Where's your... reading glasses? You've not had them all day!
[Arthur:] No.
[Evelyn:] Where are they?
[Arthur:] Down there.
[Evelyn:] I know, but I couldn't see them though.
[Arthur:] I can read without them. I don't really need them.
[Evelyn:] I know you can, but you're squinting.
[Arthur:] Well only, look here! You say that, look at that, can you see anything in there between the two?
[Evelyn:] Yes, those lines.
[Arthur:] No. You gotta see the two dish... the space in between.
[Evelyn:] Yes! I can see them. I can see it.
[Arthur:] Whe where?
[Evelyn:] [cough]... I can see it.
[Arthur:] But, there's a... all you can see is a little bright spot
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] well that ain't the space. If you tilt it like, can just see it in her mouth, sixteenth between the two.
[Evelyn:] Is it nearly finished?
[Arthur:] Yeah, it means there's ha, it's played half, another half to go.
[Evelyn:] Oh.... [cough]... What else you going to... have to eat tonight?
[Arthur:] Oh I don't want anything more.
[Evelyn:] Coffee?
[Arthur:] I could do.
[Evelyn:] Do you want some cake with it?
[Arthur:] No, it's... I've had enough cake.
[Evelyn:] Or my flapjack?
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Evelyn:] You don't, you've not tasted one! They're lovely!
[Arthur:] I'll have one tomorrow, I... I've... look if you're full, you're full! You don't want an obese
[Evelyn:] good brown sugar and butter.
[Arthur:] you don't want an obese husband do you?
[Evelyn:] I don't know. I think you're... getting a bit fat round the middle now!
[Arthur:] Well that's what I thought. Trousers are
[Evelyn:] Well Tom is!
[Arthur:] my trousers are getting too tight!
[Evelyn:] Ooh! That reminds me... when I go in town tomorrow I'm going to take one of yours.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] To get done. Those navy ones... they're the tightest aren't
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] they? That navy pair? And they were
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] expensive! they were!... Well if you're not... going to have anything else to eat you better have some medicine.
[Arthur:] Yes. Get rid of my cough cos it
[Evelyn:] Do you want, do you want some more now?
[Arthur:] it's a dry cough int it?
[Evelyn:] I'll get it.... [cough]
[Arthur:] Do you want me to... meet you tomorrow or anything? What about
[Evelyn:] No.
[Arthur:] all the library books?
[Evelyn:] No, they're not due back yet.
[Arthur:] Did you want me to meet you or anything?
[Evelyn:] No. I shall be alright. I've got the, the shopping all that lot today. Can you undo it? My hand's still not, not much use.... Look, don't spill it!
[Arthur:] Will you ha will you have some?
[Evelyn:] Not now, I've just had some. Cos I've still got a bit of a throat and it said... for sore throats too if you want.... Mind! You're spilling it!
[Arthur:] Well you so are you! If you get it on there.... I should have had a
[Evelyn:] It soothes doesn't it?
[Arthur:] wash your hands.
[Evelyn:] Don't you think so? I know what to do!
[Arthur:] Bring me a hot towel and a!
[Evelyn:] Ooh! You'll be lucky!
[Arthur:] Don't go down the mine
[Evelyn:] No. Look!
[Arthur:] daddy! Don't go down tonight.
[Evelyn:] Well this isn't it. What is his name? Erm
[Arthur:] Used to be a tearjerker. Then it was the boy stood on the burning decks.
[Evelyn:] Oh! Shut up!
[Arthur:] That was another one.
[Evelyn:] Now tomorrow, all I've got to get is meat.... And you know for your dinner
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] will you have that... shepherd's pie?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I don't know what I want.
[Arthur:] It's got to be got rid of I suppose int it?
[Evelyn:] Well er, I made a big one.
[Arthur:] Unless we put it out for the cat.
[Evelyn:] You cheeky thing! For the birds, more like.
[Arthur:] There were two cock blackbirds this morning.
[Evelyn:] No, will you have, you're not very keen on fish. So I'll get a bit of fish for myself.
[Arthur:] I think that's putting it mildly!
[Evelyn:] What?
[Arthur:] You remember in France, the er... they made you where we kept walking round the table and er... she sa, anyway said er... fish soup? And you said yes. And he turned to me... I said not likely! She says, why? [LAUGHTER] I said cos it's smells the place []!
[Evelyn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER] He he er, he he got a bit humpy! [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] I don't like the bouillabaisse.
[Arthur:] Well that's... no.
[Evelyn:] Although, at that place... it was alright but
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] it's not one of my favourite ones.
[Arthur:] What was your favourite?
[Evelyn:] What is my favourite?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] I don't know.
[Arthur:] It still is then, I suppose, by that.
[Evelyn:] Well it
[Arthur:] What was, means the past but... is, means the present.
[Evelyn:] You can tell you made reminiscent with your... slang
[Arthur:] ... What, and I were brought up in church? How did they expect them to talk down there?... We used to say... are you gorrit? [LAUGHTER]
[Evelyn:] Well you needn't put it on there
[Arthur:] You don't, you don't hear that now do you?
[Evelyn:] Well don't put it on there! You do in some parts of Leicester.
[Arthur:] Do you?
[Evelyn:] Listen to me!
[Arthur:] Well... it soon be spring now, I suppose.
[Evelyn:] Well we're getting to the
[Arthur:] Operation dig up!
[Evelyn:] It won't! We've got all the bulbs to come up fo, yet.
[Arthur:] Mm.... They're a bit hesitant at the moment.
[Evelyn:] No they're not! They're shooting through.... This side's not as good as the other one is it?
[Arthur:] No.... That's more gen gentle innit? [piano music]
[Evelyn:] That's waltz.... I think that Welsh dresser looks better without that teapot on it now.
[Arthur:] Well i i li
[Evelyn:] It didn't really go with the rest of it did it?
[Arthur:] what you win at darts at the fair [LAUGHTER] int it []?
[Evelyn:] No. No. But I mean... it didn't really go with the rest of the things.
[Arthur:] Well no, well he said that but
[Evelyn:] Yes. Only worth ten pounds then.
[Arthur:] Yeah. Somebody else'll have it ti, ten years time.
[Evelyn:] Bottle of whisky.
[Arthur:] What does Bill do now, these days, do you reckon then?
[Evelyn:] We don't know a Bill.
[Arthur:] Has he found any, no yours... er Martin's then.
[Evelyn:] Martin's boy? I don't know.
[Arthur:] He didn't seem to
[Evelyn:] Well he's got his allotment... and he helps Tina doesn't he?
[Arthur:] That's not much of an allotment now is it though?
[Evelyn:] No, but he
[Arthur:] I think the garden is old.
[Evelyn:] Yeah. Although, somebody said they thought he might er, give it up this year.
[Arthur:] Mm.... I wonder what George's garden like?
[Evelyn:] Who George?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] Ooh! Don't you remember once we went round, he'd got a lovely garden! And then went and it was all overgrown
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] And then the next time, a few years later... he'd got it back
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] he'd got it nice.
[Arthur:] Oh yeah.... Didn't he have a railway running... a model
[Evelyn:] Around.
[Arthur:] railway?
[Evelyn:] Yes.
[Arthur:] A ste, little steam loco?
[Evelyn:] But, I expect erm... as he was in all last year I should think he
[Arthur:] He didn't bother.
[Evelyn:] let it go. I mean, Catherine said
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] was suffering... from that operations so
[Arthur:] Yeah. and I bi, you know that big loft I helped get the, get the la big lathe he bought from the
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] firm. Well he'd got a, the little marker,th well about... two and a half feet marker. I says, er... don't you use that now? He said, no. I said, you ever thought of selling it? He says, well no, not really. He says I'll er... do it up I think an, what he did he painted it you see. Well we went over two or three weeks later and happened to mention it... he wanted two hundred pound for it!
[Evelyn:] Well you could had it.
[Arthur:] Well no it's... he didn't give two hundred pound for it, and he'd had it... eight or ten years.... Anyway, I've no use to
[Evelyn:] Well I think he's getting back into circulation now. Wi with ringing me
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Evelyn:] er up today. And he was going to this er
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] apparently, a friendship meeting or something, for elderly people in the village. And he was giving a lady across the road a lift there. So... cos apparently, while he was on the phone she came knocking at the door then
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] and he said, well wait a minute while I answer the door. And er... he apparently told her to sit in the car while... he finished his
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Evelyn:] conversation with me on the phone.
[Arthur:] Did he
[Evelyn:] You were in the garden so I couldn't
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] fetch you.
[Arthur:] Will he marry again?
[Evelyn:] No! No!
[Arthur:] Old Kath said he did didn't she?
[Evelyn:] No. It was about fours years.
[Arthur:] And I, and Ma, and I was saying about Ma, you know,Ma, happened to say Madge, you know, and er... er, you know we said that th, that I weren't going out. And he says, oh well er... something now, I forget, what was it? Oh he said, she, she
[Evelyn:] Well Kath was a very
[Arthur:] I should think she's being very... ge ge er er, er given her a lot... yo yo you know. Wha what he's done and what, you know. And I nearly said, but I didn't, I I I could have said, well, look what she got er out of her... her husband. You know, those....
[Evelyn:] Mm.
[Arthur:] You know, she never mentioned that, yet she mentioned what... Vince were doing now. I mean, fair's fair int it?... Still
[Evelyn:] Yes, but Kath is a sort of er... very
[Arthur:] Up and down with
[Evelyn:] No, loving person isn't
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Evelyn:] she? I mean, a very fussy person, she likes somebody to... fuss over. And er, he seems
[Arthur:] Never fussed over [LAUGHTER] me when I've been in her vicinity!
[Evelyn:] Yeah cos you're, you're my husband, you're not her!