[speaker001:] It was really er, it was really a penance going to church.
[Madge:] Yes you really had to make the effort supposed to do. Everybody had to, sort of middle ages, all the servants That's right. and everything were forced Oh, every, yes to go, weren't they?
[speaker003:] The household went
[speaker004:] Their, the homes the homes were probably
[Madge:] Then there, a lot of wearing lots of clothing and not washing much, was there? [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] In spite of that it was probably more comfortable than the home that they'd left anyway.
[Madge:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker003:] The church.
[Madge:] They wouldn't want to wash very often, would they?
[speaker004:] No.
[Madge:] Keep the dirt on them, keep warm. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Smell of it.
[Madge:] Well everybody, everybody smelt the same, didn't they?
[speaker001:] Yes, yes they wouldn't notice it. They all, they all huddled together and then when they started to get warm it'd pong a bit, wouldn't it?
[Madge:] It would that, yes.
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]...
[speaker003:] Do any of you remember Saint John's church?... No, you, do you remember Saint John's church, no. It was only demolished about eighteen, nineteen seventy. Some of this woodwork is out of it.
[speaker004:] Oh! Is it?
[speaker003:] Mm
[speaker004:] Oh!
[speaker003:] It was on the corner of Saint John's road. Yeah.
[speaker004:] I remember seeing, yes, I remember seeing it
[speaker003:] Yeah
[speaker004:] now. Oh....
[speaker003:] That lovely chandelier. Isn't that beautiful that chandelier?... Mind the step!
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker003:] I'm, I'm standing here to tell everybody
[Madge:] I watched you go down.
[speaker003:] to mind. Cos you can't see it.
[Madge:] No.
[speaker003:] You're looking around you, you, you could do a wob a real bad wobble.... Mind the steps! Down there that step.
[Madge:] Seeing used to tell us a lot about this, didn't he, at class when it...
[speaker003:] Oh Richard
[Madge:] Reverend Richard
[speaker003:] That's right!
[Madge:] Vicar of this house... and he died in eighteen thirty three. Eighteen thirty three!
[speaker003:] Yeah
[Madge:] And then that's the other one.
[speaker003:] One was erm
[Madge:] Eighteen eighty one
[speaker003:] What would, what would relation were they?
[Madge:] Well I think that Uncle! Weren't they on Mrs I think they were, yes. on Mrs 's side?
[speaker003:] Were they uncles? Was one an uncle to the other?
[Madge:] Can't tell the relationship. Whether they were father and son I can't tell you whether, what the relationship between the two of them no was, but they're related to Allen erm did tell me something else and, and his Allen is spelt
[speaker003:] Oh yes!
[Madge:] the same A double L E N
[speaker003:] That's right! Yes, yes, that's right, yes. He was the one that did, did the diary
[Madge:] isn't it?
[speaker003:] One of them was a great diarist.
[Madge:] That's it. That's it
[speaker003:] The earlier one I think, isn't
[Madge:] I can't
[speaker003:] it? The earlier one, eighteen thirty three one.
[Madge:] Was it him? Mm
[speaker003:] Yes. He was
[Madge:] Mind you that was the year he died. He
[speaker003:] Yes
[Madge:] became vicar in seventeen ninety, didn't he?
[speaker003:] Yes, well his diary was around that time
[Madge:] Eighteen eighty three.
[speaker003:] and Allen's still got the
[Madge:] Aye, that's right!
[speaker003:] diary.
[Madge:] Yes, he has his diaries. That's it, mm, that's it. It's coming back to me now.
[speaker004:] Have you got any information on?
[speaker001:] It says pretty much the same as
[speaker004:] I'm sure as er, as in here, yes.
[Madge:] Mm. Oh I'm pleased I've done that there's?
[speaker004:] yes, yes, that's right.
[Madge:] information
[speaker004:] Re tell us what it says.
[Madge:] Give me time.... A bit of pa wait a minute, after, oh right. [reading] After a ten years I've in consequence of the ill state of my nephew []. Oh well, I was right.
[speaker004:] tell June that, won't I
[Madge:] [reading] She's the entry in the diary of the Reverend Richard. His custom in his latter years was to attend here at all on Sunday mornings when he would occasionally the sermon being preached by one of his curates or his nephew, Reverend. The curate's deficiency was invariably noted []
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Now then, Richard home, was it Little Griffing? This is what it told us Well there you are, you, yes, yes so he could prayers there on Sunday afternoon. That's right. Has this cropped up in your history class then, that you've been doing?
[speaker003:] Two years ago, two years ago.
[speaker004:] Not this, not this, not this history class.
[Madge:] No
[speaker003:] the one with the W E A.
[Madge:] This is, this is one I meant
[speaker003:] now with the other one.
[Madge:] Oh yes, I've seen it. You've got to watch both ways, haven't you? [LAUGHTER] Yes, that's right. What, what, Allen didn't know about isn't worth knowing, is it? No! Oh yes? Oh aye! oh, he said, that'd be very interesting and he'd just been to see the and I said how is she? He said marvellous! So I said but what, what his Yes. Oh is she the old lady that's Oh, what a pity couldn't get somebody to talk to her and have it recorded. What she has done, Tom, Tom, you know, young Tom? He is very interested in art, in history Yes. and he wanted to know a lot of things and erm Johnny you know you know Johnny
[speaker003:] Yes, I know.
[Madge:] well he knows Mrs and Tom knows Johnny
[speaker003:] Yes
[Madge:] and he knows Mrs so he said well I know a lady who could fill a lot of gaps for you, Tom, in your history thing, so he asks, he asks
[speaker003:] Marv marvellous, marvellous
[Madge:] and Reg wrote it all down and wrote it, sent it to John and he was so pleased to have it
[speaker003:] Yes.
[Madge:] but I mean things that nobody else remembered obviously she remembers or even if she doesn't remember she heard it talked of in her childhood
[speaker003:] yes.
[Madge:] so she goes back a long way. I think she's marvellous cos I mean
[speaker003:] And she was born, you know, right at top of Bridge Street
[speaker004:] Oh was she?
[speaker003:] One of those houses that looks down
[speaker004:] She hasn't
[speaker003:] Bridge Street. She was a.
[speaker004:] she hasn't moved far then has she?
[speaker003:] She was a
[speaker004:] She hasn't moved far, has she?
[speaker003:] No.
[speaker004:] From Bridge Street just across the road.
[speaker003:] Cos when Ma died and he didn't know and he, I think he said he was his mother's cousin or something
[Madge:] Yes
[speaker004:] Her mother's cousin
[Madge:] yes, yes cos I mean
[speaker003:] All very brainy.
[Madge:] going back to her childhood, well then if she can remember things her parents said
[speaker003:] Mm
[Madge:] well that's going back a long time, isn't it?
[speaker003:] Oh yes hundred and fifty
[Madge:] That's right, it's a long, long time. So, for, sort of still to be recorded know who you are, pleased Really? you've been to see them Is that really? Yeah, but she said I were called one night I went with her daughter-in-law and she said oh Fred's just come to put me to bed, you know, he comes every night Really? and he does, he goes every night religiously,. The young
[speaker003:] The youngest
[Madge:] the youngest but one.
[speaker003:] Oh aye, cos he does
[Madge:] Does he live in does he live in Driffield? Yes. Yes, I think they're all very good to her, aren't they? Ah well, you see they used to where they used to live opposite.
[speaker003:] opposite.
[Madge:] Oh did they? Oh yes. Can you remember what was Lindsleys? Yes. Mm. Well they lived in Oh did they? that house. And where do they live now? Someone
[speaker004:] Er Brackwell.
[Madge:] Oh yes, er I mean she's so lucky that she has all living in Griffing.
[speaker003:] Mm
[Madge:] to take it all in turns. Yes, of course
[speaker003:] she'd never her own washing till
[Madge:] Really? Yes.
[speaker003:] and they've taken it in turns in that now
[Madge:] Take the washing, yes
[speaker003:] and they all, one week one of them does the
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker003:] out of us, every
[Madge:] Oh, do they? That's right! and she tells them what she wants.
[speaker004:] That's wonderful cos families aren't always like that, are they?
[Madge:] She tells them what she wants.
[speaker003:] No, the daughters-in-law, well not daughters
[Madge:] Daughters -in-law, yes. She tells them what she wants, she said er one, Fred said something to her one week and she said, well you know, you can get some sirloin, she says I like sirloin and I like it with fat. She said tell not to cook fat off. Well I mean you can't get it with fat, can you?
[speaker003:] Well I like fat. [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Anyway, she's a good appetite.
[speaker004:] Has she?
[Madge:] A marvellous appetite.
[speaker003:] How old is she then, is she
[Madge:] A hundred and two in June
[speaker003:] A hundred and two, oh
[Madge:] Yes, put her to bed, and there's different people call in to see her Yes. they all have their days for going. Yes. Er one of her, well I don't know who he really is, but he's some relation, he goes every morning, every morning Does he really? Yes. I know when I'm coming It's wonderful. home from Jack's on a Sunday morning I have to walk as far
[speaker003:] Oh, it's that man that lives near Anne int it?
[Madge:] Yes! I don't whether he's a cousin or a nephew
[speaker003:] No, Anne doesn't know what the relationship is but he
[Madge:] No, but there is some relation
[speaker003:] called her Aunty
[Madge:] oh yeah
[speaker003:] she said
[Madge:] mm, yes I can walk along with Allen, as far and then he'll say well I'm just going into see
[speaker003:] that's right.
[Madge:] But it seems quite incredible a man of his age be you know, going to see
[speaker004:] Me brother saw to seventy eight
[speaker003:] Aye, I see.
[Madge:] And you know, Jean shares and when they come up she shares it among them.
[speaker003:] Oh, does she?
[Madge:] Five pound for you and there's five pound for Tom [LAUGHTER] for coming in for doing this []. Five pound for you Fred for being good to me. Five pounds
[speaker003:] She must be a wonderful woman.
[speaker004:] She is!
[speaker003:] Treating them all alike.
[Madge:] All alike! She must've, she had terrific spirit cos when she had to have breast cancer operation I can't
[speaker004:] Did she?
[Madge:] remember how long, her breast off.
[speaker004:] Oh, I didn't know that
[Madge:] Yes! Turned eighty, she must be.
[speaker004:] Yes!
[Madge:] I'd love, I've never seen her. Have you, Jean?
[speaker003:] Oh yes! I used to quite a lot and
[Madge:] Yes!
[speaker003:] especially when we used to be at factory, because we used to come down Phillip's yard, didn't
[Madge:] Yes!
[speaker003:] we, you see, and she of was often pottering in her garden
[Madge:] And she lived there Oh she still lives there lived there yes. She lived there then, did she?
[speaker003:] Oh, she's never lived anywhere else.
[Madge:] sleep downstairs
[speaker004:] Really? Marvellous woman. Marvellous lady. Incredible
[Madge:] She was often popping in that
[speaker004:] Oh yes!
[speaker003:] I would like to er... know what she was saying to that son. I wish we could get him to come to the meeting.
[Madge:] Did you come to the last history meeting
[speaker003:] No, not that one. Erm, no I missed that one. No, the one in the house where er Mr
[Madge:] Yes, he, he's doing it at the British Legion next time.
[speaker003:] Oh.
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker003:] He, he really makes you feel
[Madge:] Yes. Oh I know. Well I remember it so, Yeah. you know. Yeah. asking if it's in that booklet and it isn't, is it?
[speaker004:] That's where you put the pressure on? Yeah.
[speaker005:] Had a phone call from a woman last night, wanted to go swimming Thursday night beginner's class. I said
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Have you got to go to beginner?
[speaker005:] No, it were
[Madge:] No
[speaker005:] we, it should be next Thursday but the school's on
[speaker001:] School's on
[speaker005:] holiday
[speaker001:] school's on holiday
[speaker005:] it's not worth going,
[Madge:] What, you're still going to are you?
[speaker001:] Mm
[speaker005:] Mm yeah Thursday and it, it says Tuesday in the paper and it's Thursday. It has been for a, a while now
[Madge:] Yeah.
[speaker005:] cos they don't open Tuesday, they don't and it's, anyhow it's the last one, the last one next month in May. The third Thursday in May is the last one. But we had nobody been for a couple of times, now....
[Madge:] I've just got it going again and I really have to make the effort. This is what I say, I ought to make the effort to come to this French! They're all enjoying it
[speaker005:] Well that's finished.
[Madge:] very much. Yes, I know.
[speaker005:] We're, we're just finished today. He's
[Madge:] Yeah.
[speaker005:] gonna have another one.
[Madge:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Is he?
[speaker005:] Yeah, he's gonna have er, he's gonna go on from there, go on advanced.
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker005:] So we've, we've missed this one this morning
[Madge:] Mm. I think we ought to, if we could make it a certain day of the week, something to do with U V A. One Tuesday and the other Tuesday have a... local history and third Tuesday have something else. The Tuesday of each
[speaker005:] Ah, but well we do, we do that, we do
[Madge:] No we don't. We have Wednesdays and Thursdays.
[speaker005:] Oh yes! Oh I see what you mean.
[Madge:] You mean one Tuesday
[speaker005:] That's because, that's because there's too many!
[speaker001:] Too many.
[Madge:] No, but there'd be a good four, wouldn't there, at least four. A Tuesday in a month
[speaker005:] Oh yeah, I see what you mean, yeah
[Madge:] have one
[speaker005:] Mm, mm
[Madge:] make Tuesday, or Wednesday or Thursday for the U V A.
[speaker005:] Yeah, but the trouble with it there is that... very often you get, you get half of them say we can't come Tuesday, but we can come Wednesday
[Madge:] Oh yes!
[speaker001:] Most people most people we find can, can go Wednesday and Thursday
[Madge:] Yes, well
[speaker005:] That counts
[Madge:] whatever days, whatever
[speaker005:] That's right.
[Madge:] day.
[speaker005:] He's, he's, he's, he's one of these you get if you aren't careful you can get so committed with
[Madge:] Well this is, this is why I think may be able to go to French and er I, really when I hear how, how well they've enjoyed it this morning I thought well I wished I'd made the effort
[speaker005:] Yeah
[Madge:] but, even, I like this, I like this local history all very
[speaker005:] Yes
[Madge:] interesting.
[speaker005:] Yeah.
[Madge:] Erm your bridge class clashed with me Town's Women's Guild committee meeting so that was that, so
[speaker005:] Yes.
[Madge:] erm I think if you're on a committee you have a right to
[speaker005:] To
[Madge:] attend
[speaker005:] ex exactly if you're on the committee.
[Madge:] Anyway I'm
[speaker005:] Are you?... Well, I know we're rather looking forward to May when it, when it finishes till September
[Madge:] Yes, well yes
[speaker001:] Yes, so we can have a rest. I mean, no really
[Madge:] Do you know, I didn't want to say
[speaker001:] we
[Madge:] anything but I thought you were looking, beginning to look a bit tired. Are you feeling tired?
[speaker001:] We are, well I'm not so
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker001:] not so well at the moment because I've got a stinking cold.
[Madge:] Oh that's it, is it? Yeah.
[speaker001:] Yeah. But erm we, we wer went up to our son's in Inverness about fortnight, three weeks ago
[Madge:] Oh yes, mm, yes.
[speaker001:] and I'll tell you this, we were glad to have nine days doing nothing.
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker001:] Just sat there and we felt better for it.
[Madge:] Mm well that's one of the reasons I haven't involved
[speaker001:] We, we were getting tense!
[Madge:] in so much, yeah.
[speaker005:] Even at weekends we there's nothing Saturday and Sunday, but somebody that we'd lived with in West Yorkshire called us. We'd a couple call last weekend that were in
[Madge:] Yeah, well you're on their way to the coast from West Riding, aren't you? [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] They are, yeah. Yeah well, you see, we found that for the first three or four years now they've gradually dropped off a bit, but they did used to, I mean they still come, but it
[Madge:] It's nice to see them int it?
[speaker001:] Oh yeah.
[speaker005:] Betty, is it Betty that er goes to the er, it's in the er, goes to the tea dances. She's a little lady
[speaker001:] Oh Bet Betty?
[speaker005:] Betty, no. No. Her husband's a tall fellow. He's had er, he's had heart trouble that's why he doesn't go dancing. Betty? Betty? Anyhow, he, he bakes bread and he was talking about it the other day and I said oh that's lovely homemade bread. It, just before we set off they came round in the car and they had a loaf for me.
[Madge:] Lovely!
[speaker005:] He said I'll give you the recipe. I made a mistake, like Margaret said, you're not enough yet you, you, you'd never learn, you would. And I said, ooh I wouldn't mind making bread. Well, people take me up on it and he's
[Madge:] Oh!
[speaker005:] and so he came round with the bread and he said I'll let you have the recipe and I thought, so I am now
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] So?
[speaker005:] committed to making bread.
[Madge:] Bread good.
[speaker005:] I'll have to make some now.
[Madge:] You'll have to make some little baps and bring them [LAUGHTER]
[speaker005:] No, no, you know that, this is Margaret says I ain't never saying anything unless I'm sure I want to. She said I, I, I linger and when I've thought about it I say yes,
[Madge:] Well, it's very difficult, yeah
[speaker005:] alright. [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker005:] But, you know, you, don't you, you go straight in without thinking.
[Madge:] Oh, I think I've only once made bread in all my life. I remember me mother with a great big earthenware
[speaker001:] Oh aye! She used to have this in, in front, in front of the old fire.
[speaker005:] Yellow inside.
[Madge:] Yes. I've got plants growing in it at the moment.
[speaker001:] Well,Jo Joan, Joan there she, she, she can make the most marvellous cakes and scones and everything else. She's only once tried to make some bread. She made this bread, put it on the table, the table went
[speaker005:] So heavy!
[speaker001:] We couldn't, we couldn't get through it. We, we, we, we threw, we threw it out into the garden and these birds swooped down and they couldn't take off!
[Madge:] Oh go on! [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] They couldn't take off. They were flapping round on the
[Madge:] They were so excited at getting something [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] They were so, they were so heavy, they were so heavy, they were so heavy
[Madge:] What's he asking me?
[speaker001:] Talking about your baking. How the birds couldn't take off
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] Bread? Yes.
[speaker001:] Yes.
[Madge:] It's the only thing I can't make! I can, can do all, all sorts
[speaker005:] Have you seen, have you seen that, that little lady that goes to Betty, Betty something
[Madge:] I think we could be moving.
[speaker005:] She's in the bowling club.
[speaker001:] Oh you mean the little one that goes with Mary? Aye, I know who you mean now.
[speaker005:] talking to him last night, he makes bread. He loves it. See it's one of his hobbies and he goes to, he goes to er Bradshaws and he
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker005:] asks, he gets it, it's called Brad something special, brown
[speaker001:] Special flour
[speaker005:] brown flour and, and, anyway they called round just before we set off. They waltzed round in the car and they had this brown loaf warm out of the oven for me.
[Madge:] Really?
[speaker005:] It smelt beautifully.
[Madge:] Oh!
[speaker005:] And, and he said I, because, because when they were talking Joan, I mean, like Margaret said, it's worth thinking first before you open your mouth
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker005:] and he said
[Madge:] They could er
[speaker005:] making bread well he says I, you know, I'll give you the recipe and you're committed now, you know.
[Madge:] You're gonna have to have a go!
[speaker005:] she says you've, you've had it, you're right in so you better get yourself organized. I, I, I would like to but I haven't thought it seriously enough about it, but when I smelt that I thought
[Madge:] Well I've got a couple of er bridge loaf tins that you can borrow. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker005:] Loaf tins? Oh, I've got a couple of loaf tins. We had one er you know, the eldest daughter she makes all her own bread
[Madge:] My mother used to do. Oh so did mine. Great big earthenware things. We were just talking about that Earthenware Every, every Thursday, coming home from school
[speaker005:] She'd be pounding
[Madge:] Yes!
[speaker005:] Best thing to do is do a bit of gardening then go in and bake the bread. It puts a bit of flavour in.
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] It cleans your hands! It cleans your hands! [LAUGHTER]
[speaker005:] Yes!... Put a bit flavour in your loaf of bread. Bit of compost in it.
[Madge:] Me mother used to make loaves and then she had a set of
[speaker005:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] a set of little tiny loaf tins and we all, she always used to make these little ones, you know, that's mine, that's me brother's, Oh yes that me sister's each time. That was your tea oh I can still remember this now. And when we moved to Manchester the thing I missed were things called sally loaves and you don't Oh yeah! and you don't see them here now! Great big ones!
[speaker001:] Yes, sally loaves. But do you know, me cousin Eric, who's quite a lot older than me, was at Scarborough with me Uncle and and his mother and dad and he was only a little one and he was stood in that narrow street that goes off, off the
[Madge:] Yeah, yeah I know
[speaker001:] He stood there, cos something had happened, and he's stamping his feet he says and I won't, I won't say our father and I won't have any sally for me supper either.
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] Oh I used to love sally loaves and you cut them off that way Yes, yes. You cut them that way.
[speaker005:] And they had icing on them, did they have icing?
[Madge:] No, no there was currants, the fruits.
[speaker005:] Like a teacake, wasn't it? Like a fruit teacake
[Madge:] Yes a great yes a great one but then when we got to Manchester it was all baps! We didn't know what baps were! So we went there Well it still won't know what's hit it when it arrives, I mean I just realized... Trevor isn't
[speaker003:] Oh is it?
[Madge:] here today? He's alright
[speaker003:] No he's
[Madge:] is he?
[speaker003:] Oh yes, well he's not a, a bit, a nasty cold but it, you know, he's alright, no
[Madge:] Not very good And Scrabble at your house tomorrow?
[speaker003:] Tomorrow, yes.
[Madge:] Oh that's jolly convenient for the p erm go and put me little cross on the way then.
[speaker003:] Yes.
[Madge:] Oh well, we're going after we've been
[speaker003:] Yeah, well we're put morning.
[speaker005:] I'm a floating voter, me.
[Madge:] You're floating towards the school in the morning, this morning?
[speaker005:] Yes.
[Madge:] Oh, really? Yes, take me velvet See you tomorrow for the Scrabble? Er, yes all being well we will, yeah. Erm I was last night because I was all ready to come and the telephone rang and it was one of those Oh upsetting people on the other side and Oh. and I hadn't the heart to tell No. Something over my son's wedding and she was in tears Oh dear! oh this is just when she felt she had to talk Yes. at about twenty past two I did a good deed for the day.
[speaker004:] Well you did, yes. I'll grant you your reward in heaven.
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] If not before! Not too soon I hope!
[speaker004:] Not too soon, no. All these rewards that you're waiting for [LAUGHTER] and you don't find anyone there [].
[Madge:] I'm afraid there'll be an awful counterbalance somewhere along the line.
[speaker004:] Oh gosh! I'm sure there will. I'm sure there will, yes. Oh Mary's going out for a drink as well.
[Madge:] Oh she is?
[speaker003:] Mm tell her I'll see her some time
[Madge:] Yes, righto.... She hasn't found a house yet
[speaker003:] She is thinking of going
[Madge:] has she?
[speaker003:] Er she said not
[Madge:] No, she's hoping to go to yeah. Anyway, I'm glad you're better
[speaker004:] Yes, I'm fine.
[Madge:] No, no more... cos it can last for such a long time sometimes, you know. Yes, so they say! Somebody was telling me it took her four years! I thought oh my God! [LAUGHTER] Don't want that. Bye! I was thinking about the Wigan one.
[speaker006:] Aye, I know that, that's the one she was
[Madge:] Oh, oh, cos
[speaker006:] yes, well she, yes, I mean er, I say to her really. I mean I try every now again but it, you end up... you're gonna end by talking about them and
[Madge:] Mm.
[speaker006:] child
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker006:] and what used to do and that's it. Then of course it sort of all brings all back to him.
[Madge:] Yeah.
[speaker006:] He says, well if you don't bother. But no, I just er added, added to them and I didn't have a letter to say that er, you know, they were coming.
[Madge:] Well I think if it was a flying visit as I say, none of mine came but carried on there I went home again.
[speaker006:] back home. Yes.
[Madge:] Yes.
[speaker006:] But erm, no, I, I don't really
[Madge:] No, apparently Dul Dulcie didn't know who, who was who anyway. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker006:] No, that would be I don't really think of that when I, I don't think I don't think anybody went to see her, but I think she'd been done a bit better. Sheila had this letter anyway
[Madge:] Oh.
[speaker006:] so er
[Madge:] I was, I was alright at the weekend, that's my Darlington meeting and she was talking to one of the boys erm... the one that lives at Filey. And she'd been talking to him for about half an hour and well er her son had come up
[speaker006:] Yes.
[Madge:] and... not Norman, it's the other one... one of them anyway, he said hello Christopher where's your mum? talking for half an hour! [LAUGHTER] He just hadn't recognized who she was!
[speaker006:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] And that isn't so long since they'd seen her
[speaker006:] Ah, well it
[Madge:] I can't remember the name
[speaker006:] Because if, if you get a letter from somebody and you think oh, it's lovely I'll, I'll do something about that. Well, you see when it comes to it that's it you can do about replying.
[Madge:] Yeah
[speaker006:] So I believe at one time
[Madge:] Oh well reply the girl I used to work with wrote to me this morning.
[speaker006:] Aye.
[Madge:] Er got to arrange a meeting at Pocklington cos she lives at York so we, I go through to Pocklington have a lunch and then return
[speaker006:] That'd, that'd be quite
[Madge:] and we both come back because the buses are quite convenient, they seem
[speaker006:] I was gonna say
[Madge:] to meet in Pocklington
[speaker006:] Aye
[Madge:] you know there's not nobody got half an hour to wait.
[speaker006:] No, nobody got, no. If it's a wet day you're mucking about. No. So it's a good idea.
[Madge:] No. Well we had a lovely walk in the er water gardens at Pocklington.
[speaker006:] Aye.
[Madge:] It was nice.
[speaker006:] That's another one.
[Madge:] Are there any people who are sixteen, seventeen?
[speaker006:] No then, no then
[Madge:] I tell you what. I've got my er seventeen year old granddaughter staying with me for the time being
[speaker006:] Have you?
[Madge:] and it frightens me to death the way they go out. It really does. And I mean she's a good kid, she isn't a bad kid by any means but er, oh the late nights and er
[speaker006:] I know
[Madge:] how the, she expects to get her A level exams I just don't know.
[speaker006:] They get, get through
[Madge:] you can only encourage them you can't make them do it.
[speaker006:] [LAUGHTER] No []. You're wondering how
[Madge:] Anyway, see you Gladys
[speaker006:] you're wondering how your, your encouraging's in the right place
[Madge:] Indeed!
[speaker006:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] See you Gladys!... Bye! Hello!
[speaker004:] Oh Christ! It's warm in here!
[Madge:] It's lovely!
[speaker004:] Every time I come in I'm roasting!
[Madge:] The wind is quite cold
[speaker004:] I know.
[Madge:] Well, int really cold but it's
[speaker004:] Open that one as well cos I'm off.
[Madge:] Can you tell me how to get Staithes and get to Scarborough and get to... from Scarborough to Whitby by bus presumably.
[speaker004:] Yes.
[Madge:] Do you have any timetables
[speaker004:] Er
[Madge:] or anything?
[speaker004:] the only thing I have is to Scarborough.
[Madge:] No!
[speaker004:] The only information I have, I'm afraid cos that's as far as
[Madge:] Well, where do I get the information then? Who from?
[speaker004:] Erm, I would think you'll either have to get it from Scarborough or Whitby. Is it Staithes?
[Madge:] Yes, it's erm... about I think at Whitby.
[speaker004:] Yeah. It's a different bus company,
[Madge:] Er ri
[speaker004:] you see.
[Madge:] Ah well, can you, have you got the tele their telephone number for Scarborough?
[speaker004:] Erm...
[Madge:] Sorry? yes. Yes. Yes. And what bus company is it then? Just Scarborough?
[speaker004:] Scarborough District....
[Madge:] They're useless, aren't they?
[speaker004:] Mm. I don't, I mean, I haven't, I'm not useless cos I can give you information we have here but I'm not at that end I can't you see
[Madge:] Oh, erm
[speaker004:] Scarborough.
[Madge:] oh. Oh, I would've thought
[speaker004:] But they could
[Madge:] you might've had some timetables like they have on the train
[speaker004:] Yeah
[Madge:] now
[speaker004:] yeah, I know.
[Madge:] I mean it's funny anyway.
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER] Mm. Going to be a long journey I would think cos it's an hour and a half from here to Scarborough on the bus....
[Madge:] I can be making
[speaker004:] Yeah.... One and a half?
[Madge:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Will I go from here to
[Madge:] To where?
[speaker004:] mother-in-law's there and by the time I get to Filey
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] I do! Mind you, when I get to Filey take me home and I think that's
[Madge:] Yeah. Do they go to Pocklington occasionally
[speaker004:] I can imagine
[Madge:] You know when it takes you what
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Madge:] twenty five minutes in a car and it takes you about an, an hour on the bus.
[speaker004:] Yeah, that's it, innit?
[Madge:] Anyway, thanks very much!
[speaker004:] Bye! Sorry!
[Madge:] Bye!
[speaker004:] Bye!
[Madge:] What a lovely garden!
[speaker003:] Hello Jean!
[speaker007:] Isn't it? That's what I was saying
[Madge:] Absolutely and that oh but what a lot you've still got to do, haven't you?
[speaker003:] But spring's nice this time of the year
[speaker007:] not compared with what you had
[speaker003:] not compared yet
[speaker007:] but you have.
[Madge:] Yes,
[speaker007:] Oh and to be open like that at the
[Madge:] Mm
[speaker007:] at the back.
[Madge:] Yes. I know when you know
[speaker003:] come round and cut the grass at the back I said are you cutting our grass for us! [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] Oh he goes trotting along on that er little mechanical thing
[speaker003:] Yes, yes
[speaker007:] now. But I don't re think they realize what they were doing when they started making that flower border round, it's going to be a never ending job.
[speaker003:] Yes, yes. Well we thought about one but it but we let it grow again because we just hadn't the time.
[speaker007:] Well, it's as fast as I got round
[speaker003:] Yes, yes
[speaker007:] I don't know what, how much they've kept of the er place at the back.
[Madge:] No, no I don't know what they've kept
[speaker007:] But er, you've got a cold too, haven't you?
[Madge:] No I haven't really! No!
[speaker007:] Haven't you? Oh! It just sounded as though you had. Now who was it? It was Jim saying he'd got a cold.
[Madge:] Haven't you been?
[speaker007:] Oh I've just been. [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Oh I went at half past nine this morning.
[speaker007:] and they're all going down with their little cards in their hands as they
[Madge:] Are they? Two
[speaker007:] Yes or three people on the way up [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] It was only twenty past nine when I went there yet there seemed to be a stream of folks! being busy she says you're still being kept going all the time and they were streaming in you know.
[speaker008:] Oh yeah
[speaker003:] Oh there was quite a few pas when I past I went up for paper but I didn't call in and vote, you know,
[speaker007:] No
[Madge:] No
[speaker003:] we'll have a walk up tonight.
[Madge:] Yes there's a anyway
[speaker007:] I didn't get caught on somebody coming, when I came out saying who did you vote for? Would you like to tell me? I dodged all those sort of people. If I'm going to vote I want to vote not
[Madge:] Were there some were there some people asking you then? Oh!
[speaker007:] They've always been other years so I presume that
[speaker003:] Yeah, yeah, yeah
[speaker007:] there will be.
[Madge:] I see. Oh yeah!
[speaker007:] There were, a few people stood around the main entrance but I
[Madge:] You never get any good political [LAUGHTER] meetings now [] there used to be
[speaker008:] No
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] good ones at town hall [].
[speaker008:] There was one, one last night, wasn't there?
[speaker007:] Was there?
[Madge:] Oh was there? Oh I didn't know!
[speaker008:] I thought you got a little brochure through your door.
[Madge:] I never read it. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] I only had one candidate round
[Madge:] Oh I didn't know there was
[speaker007:] and I had a Labour bloke round last night. I don't think it was a candidate, just a reporter.
[Madge:] They used to have good political meetings in town hall [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] Well they used to all over, didn't they?
[Madge:] Mm aye in villages as well, yeah, aye. Cos, I mean
[speaker009:] I know I just that election, you know in eighty seven
[speaker008:] Yes, before then?
[speaker003:] Well erm no we're in business to know aren't we? Used to be called Brian and then it was that David fellow, anyway I said well I shouldn't bother to vote last time, anyway David n erm David... Dennis said you will I'll take you there so he took me to [LAUGHTER] []
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] I don't think our votes are going to be crucial but whether they, what they
[speaker008:] Not here
[speaker003:] Well I don't think in this area
[speaker007:] No
[speaker003:] cos it's
[Madge:] I don't know whether he's a good MP or not, do you?
[speaker008:] no
[Madge:] I don't know much about him
[speaker007:] I'm not very happy with him but er I mean er
[Madge:] Oh don't know much about him
[speaker007:] it's the party rather than the man I
[speaker009:] Hello!
[speaker008:] Hello!
[speaker009:] How's your tooth? Has it been painful?
[speaker008:] Oh a lot better thanks yes.
[speaker009:] Oh
[speaker008:] Yeah it's a lot better today
[speaker009:] Somebody somebody said yesterday
[Madge:] Ooh it had!
[speaker007:] What was it?
[speaker008:] Just an infection dentist said.
[speaker007:] Oh!
[speaker008:] Funny enough, Peter and I have both been swimming together and we've both got the same thing
[speaker003:] Did they tell you it was a working party as it's gardening afternoon? I said it've been better if we'd all gave him a, a half a day's gardening
[speaker007:] I've done I've done an hour this morning and it's just about jiggered me. You know edging the lawn and
[speaker003:] Yes
[speaker007:] weeding.
[speaker009:] nothing since last August and my husband keeps saying oh I must stay in and do it, I must stay in and do it and I just don't!
[speaker007:] I know! I cut the grass yesterday for the first time and it was like a meadow!
[speaker009:] I have a lot of shade so I have to wait until it's dry.
[speaker007:] Yes, it's, it's
[speaker003:] I've, I've got excuse [LAUGHTER] I don't, I say I don't worry that much, I don't
[speaker007:] I can find plenty of excuses. [LAUGHTER] Oh I can find plenty of excuses.
[speaker009:] No mine looks after itself really. It's all ground cover and
[speaker007:] Do you find that ground cover works? Because I've found the
[speaker009:] I do!
[speaker007:] the weeds are coming up and I'm having to go under the ground cover and get them. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] Hello there!
[speaker009:] I find that yes.
[speaker007:] Ooh
[speaker009:] Hello!
[speaker004:] Oh! Look at the bulbs, aren't they lovely!
[speaker007:] Aren't they nice!... Do you take the bulbs out each year or
[Madge:] No!
[speaker007:] replant them? Mm?
[Madge:] No! Erm we've taken one
[speaker007:] Oh yes, cos I was going to say there were a lot to come up there innit?
[speaker009:] That's right. To take the tops off now I don't always I think well what does nature do? Nothing! So
[speaker007:] No
[speaker009:] I don't do
[speaker007:] But with a, it's just that er if you have er in the wrong place it'll look a bit untidy with the other things coming up when the bulbs are dying down.
[speaker009:] They do, yes leaves the leaves on so
[speaker007:] Oh I wish I've got something cooler! Ooh!
[speaker009:] Yes, I've got short sleeves.
[speaker007:] Mm
[speaker009:] Isn't it a lovely conservatory?
[speaker007:] Int it gorgeous and especially this view.
[speaker009:] Yeah! It's lovely!... Yeah an ideal
[speaker007:] Mm
[speaker004:] Yes look at all the daffodils!
[speaker009:] Mm
[speaker004:] It's quite hot in here, isn't it?
[speaker009:] Mm
[speaker004:] Gosh! You just
[speaker009:] It's lovely, isn't it?
[speaker004:] Yes!
[Madge:] Yes, well we're having it altered. We going to have
[speaker004:] What are you going to do?
[Madge:] well we're moving it forward so far and we're having patio doors
[speaker004:] Ah, yes, yes, mm
[speaker007:] Ah, that's nice, mm
[Madge:] Yes
[speaker004:] Wow! What a roof!
[Madge:] Yes
[speaker007:] Cos it wo it doesn't keep the light out of your kitchen or your other rooms does it, because of
[Madge:] Well no, you know
[speaker007:] this.
[speaker004:] No, you've got such big windows haven't you?
[speaker007:] Some people have had them with a solid roof
[speaker008:] Yes, you can see right across.
[speaker009:] Do you try to take all the tops off as they die off?
[Madge:] Well, we started, we started but as the time goes on. I took a few off this morning, but you see there's still a few
[speaker009:] Yeah I tell myself that, that they don't get taken off in nature so I leave them
[Madge:] Yeah
[speaker009:] mainly.
[Madge:] Well I, we do mainly, but what we do is, we, we cut them, when they die off, we cut them right down under ground
[speaker009:] Oh do you?
[speaker007:] Do you wait till they go, the leaves go really yellow or
[Madge:] Oh no, no. Well no, because you've got to get something else in really.
[speaker007:] That's it! Yes!
[Madge:] You know, let them die off a bit
[speaker007:] Mm
[Madge:] and then, well we leave the daffies and then when the tulips have died off we take the lot
[speaker007:] Oh yes yes.
[speaker009:] Oh and you just sort of
[Madge:] and, and pull them all off and put
[speaker007:] Just leave, leave the bulbs in?
[Madge:] Yes... and put a bit of fertilizer on and... on one side, I think that side, you see, they haven't come back as well.
[speaker007:] No.
[Madge:] last year, year before.
[speaker007:] Oh!
[speaker009:] Mm
[Madge:] You know and er the daffies... there was a bad patch there last year. We put some more in and they still haven't come.
[speaker009:] Oh!
[Madge:] I don't know why.
[speaker007:] Oh!
[Madge:] So, I don't think we
[speaker007:] What are you going to do when the daffies die down? bring anything else in?
[Madge:] Oh yeah, well yes, we've had, we've put bedding plants, bedding plants in
[speaker007:] Bedding plants in yes.
[Madge:] Mm, yeah, yeah, got a, you know, just a small border.
[speaker007:] Right....
[speaker009:] Oh it's gorgeous innit? We could've played outside, couldn't we? [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] I saw some, my erm people at the bottom of the garden were having their lunch out in the garden
[speaker004:] We, we had our lunch at
[speaker007:] but they were right out in the open breakfast and all the meals out here. Yes.
[Madge:] I've got me jigsaw on that board that's what, and I've covered it over with a cloth because I don't want the sun to fade it cos it's [LAUGHTER] hard enough to do as it is []!
[speaker009:] Oh yes! Yes, that's right. It'll change it, won't it?
[speaker007:] Oh I'm not, I don't like jigsaws very much
[speaker009:] I do but I've got so many other things to do I haven't got time.
[Madge:] Well, I had this one bought at Christmas... and I've only just got him persuaded to let me bring the board down to do it downstairs cos you, where are we going to put it?
[speaker009:] Well you get hooked once you start, don't you?
[Madge:] Yeah, you do
[speaker009:] I, I daren't start!
[speaker007:] I get frustrated if I can't see something immediately that goes in somewhere.
[speaker009:] Oh, do you? Oh I don't mind that
[speaker007:] I get awfully frustrated.
[speaker009:] I find it
[Madge:] I, I think this is going to be a very difficult one cos there's a lot very near the same shade but
[speaker007:] Yes
[speaker009:] Mm
[Madge:] they are shaded
[speaker007:] How many pieces? How many pieces?
[Madge:] One thousand five hundred.
[speaker007:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] Summer's come! Summer's come!
[speaker007:] Well let's hope it stays!
[speaker009:] Yeah. It came about a month ago, didn't it?
[speaker007:] Although we shall be grumbling for water, shan't we?
[speaker009:] Yeah. Oh we've had plenty of water for the time being.
[speaker007:] Be grumbling for water. Oh I don't think so not for what they, what they, they want.
[speaker009:] No, no. I'm just not dedicated I'm afraid. I just let the garden go [LAUGHTER] []
[speaker007:] Well it's a, I'm afraid it's just getting
[speaker009:] So many other things to do!
[speaker007:] too much. I, I really jiggered myself this morning and I was only out about half an hour, you know, and I used to be able to do a full day!
[speaker009:] yeah. No you can't.
[speaker007:] and er there's enough to do at the front and the back. The front has got to be tidy [LAUGHTER] I did a bit last night when I went out.
[speaker009:] Can't you put gravel in your front?
[speaker007:] I don't like gravel.
[speaker009:] Oh I don't mind! I think it looks quite nice. I've seen two of all these houses I walked round at Bridlington, I thought all the gravel looked quite nice, you know, with the odd plant and and things through the gravel.
[speaker007:] And er... did you enjoy your tea yesterday with I didn't come because er I thought
[speaker009:] Yes! Yes! Thank you
[speaker007:] I might go back and get er, get me grass cut
[speaker009:] Yeah. They were silly little coffee cups that came round and
[speaker007:] and part of that is it's a long walk back from the
[speaker009:] It was, was a long walk, yes.
[speaker007:] I should imagine
[speaker009:] Yes. I mean you've such a long walk, haven't you, haven't you?
[speaker007:] So I thought right, I'm gonna give that
[speaker009:] Well I yes, I got a bit tired out because erm somebody mentioned table tennis and I said oh I've been wanting a game for years! I, I got sick of asking around and gave up
[speaker007:] Ooh!
[speaker009:] er somebody said well the, the table's, we'd been to French in the morning and I hadn't realized that the table's
[speaker007:] Yes, in the youth club.
[speaker009:] in the youth club
[speaker007:] Yes.
[speaker009:] and erm they'd sort of asked and said, you know, it's possible. So there are two tables there. So we were talking about this and
[speaker007:] Erm, no I'm
[speaker009:] what's her name Mrs erm was there, Margaret and she said oh I have a table! You can come round now and have a game. I said oh no, not then! She said well come and see, she said, and then any time any of you want a game come, I thought that was very sweet of her!
[speaker007:] Very nice!
[speaker009:] I mean we wouldn't want to keep traipsing through her house every time
[speaker007:] Where does she live?
[speaker009:] Er Land's Park
[speaker007:] Oh!
[speaker009:] just round the corner!
[speaker007:] Yes!
[speaker009:] So we went round then, oh that was lovely too and erm cos she made
[speaker007:] How many
[speaker009:] tea but I didn't stay
[speaker007:] how many er is interested in the table tennis?
[speaker009:] Well, there was about four of us.
[speaker007:] Mm cos I found I'd try, well the works had er, erm table and I, I remember the last time I played before I left and I said come on, I'll
[speaker009:] Mm.
[speaker007:] Not for me
[speaker009:] No.
[speaker007:] it's too energetic and too, you've got to have to, got an eye
[speaker009:] You've got to watch that ball. Yes, yes
[speaker007:] and it was always the picking up and the speed of it and so I thought well I, I
[speaker009:] Yes, oh
[speaker007:] [whispering] []
[speaker009:] Ah!
[speaker007:] so no don't say
[speaker009:] Yes
[speaker007:] that. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Well no, it's frustrating because that's how I
[speaker007:] I make the best of it, but er I
[speaker009:] felt all these years that I
[speaker007:] Mm, mm
[speaker009:] hadn't had enough and now
[speaker007:] Yeah
[speaker009:] and erm well, of course, then somebody suggested oh what about Scottish country dancing? Cos the so erm I said oh, I'd love Scottish country dancing!
[speaker007:] [LAUGHTER] You are going to get some bread, are you?
[Madge:] she ever will do! I don't think she wants to go home!
[speaker009:] No! I got home and I felt that's it! If I can do table tennis and Scottish country dancing, nothing won't get me away from that. So I, I spent the night thinking oh dear, have I done the wrong thing now? But if anything comes of this table tennis and Scottish country dancing that'll be
[speaker007:] Well, it'll be nice if you get a club going at the youth club, because they won't use it in the morning
[speaker009:] That's right!
[speaker007:] not the early afternoons, will they?
[speaker009:] That's it!
[speaker007:] I'm, I'm coming to your house next month.
[speaker009:] Yeah
[speaker007:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] It is a long way, isn't it?
[Madge:] I don't think I shall be there next month!
[speaker007:] Well, you, aren't you doing some teas?
[Madge:] I was supposed to do it yesterday! I'd, you see, as you know, I missed
[speaker007:] Oh well
[Madge:] all winter
[speaker007:] Yes.
[Madge:] and I said to Joan, when she was on about churches, well you can come to for a cup of tea, you see?
[speaker007:] Yes, that was what we thought.
[Madge:] Aye! But then you see, she said that she thought it was too many so she put it to
[speaker009:] were, were quite a lot, weren't there?
[Madge:] No! Could've managed to cook her tea, couldn't we?
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Madge:] But I said May or June. So
[speaker009:] No
[speaker007:] No
[Madge:] So
[speaker009:] But people don't mind taking their own cup with them, do they?
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] I, I mean I was a bit disappointed yesterday cos it was a good do
[speaker009:] Oh!
[Madge:] up there, wasn't it?
[speaker009:] It was! The, I say
[Madge:] Poor girl!
[speaker009:] and the cups were so weren't they?
[Madge:] And we didn't even have a biscuit, did we?
[speaker009:] No!
[speaker007:] How much did she charge
[Madge:] Thirty pence. Well it wasn't that much thirty pence, but I mean we, it was, well they'll have to buck up their ideas,
[speaker009:] But Joan
[Madge:] won't they?
[speaker009:] yes, but Joan asked at the end, didn't she, if it would be possible for us to use that for history and they said yes
[Madge:] Oh did she?
[speaker009:] as long as we just pay for the
[Madge:] I see
[speaker007:] Oh!
[speaker009:] and I said to we could use it so
[speaker007:] Rather than go to the school?
[speaker009:] Yes, I think so, so
[speaker007:] I thought you, I thought you were sort of more, more or less settled in this
[speaker009:] I don't know!
[speaker007:] youth club?
[Madge:] Well, I don't know cos I haven't been to any meetings for months, not
[speaker007:] It's a long walk down
[Madge:] since last
[speaker009:] It belong well I found cycling
[speaker007:] most people
[speaker009:] it seemed to be
[speaker007:] Yes!
[speaker009:] and I thought I'm never going to get there!
[speaker007:] Well I studied an art class in the school and it took me twenty five minutes to walk from my house.
[speaker009:] It is for you, yeah.
[Madge:] It would do! Except we reckon half
[speaker007:] it's even further
[Madge:] an hour when we're going to school.
[speaker007:] Yes!
[speaker009:] And most people had lifts yesterday to the French on the way up
[speaker007:] Yes, mm, oh yes. You could arrange a lift, but that's in case you can't get a lift, that's how long it takes you.
[Madge:] It is a long way up to that school I know, when, you know by
[speaker007:] And then there's the int it?
[speaker009:] Well this is it! Once you get to the school you think you're there! But you're not!
[speaker007:] But you're not!
[speaker009:] No! Oh Jean, there's a walk meeting at your house, isn't there? Tuesday morning.
[Madge:] Oh she rang me did, ah well, you see, Joan rang last night to say that Reg had asked us to go to to see the daffodils. Well I says, I'm awfully sorry I'm out for the day on Tuesday.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Madge:] So, I mean, I won't even be at the house!
[speaker009:] Oh dear!
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] And I can't alter it!
[speaker009:] No she said leave outside.
[Madge:] Yeah well that was alright. I says oh and I am sorry will you tell Reg later how disappointed I am, but, you know I mean
[speaker007:] have to manage that little one
[speaker009:] Well she said would I tell anybody
[speaker007:] No I can't. Not on Tuesday
[Madge:] No, no.
[speaker007:] and Wednesday I can't and then
[Madge:] No, well I
[speaker007:] Thursday I'm going over to Staithes.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[speaker007:] So
[speaker009:] And I said to Jerry, oh yes, I'd love to! I'll be there
[Madge:] Mm
[speaker009:] and I realized after that once I got to bed and me brain works I thought, oh dear, the family's coming for lunch on Tuesday so I can't do it! So I thought I'll have to tell, I'll tell
[Madge:] and tell me.
[speaker009:] I'll tell Jean tomorrow so I must've
[Madge:] She
[speaker009:] ringed you.
[Madge:] She rang me, oh it were about nine o'clock last night
[speaker009:] That's right, it was about nine.
[Madge:] so, I mean, it isn't just visiting
[speaker009:] No.
[Madge:] but I could've put it off another day
[speaker007:] Yeah.
[Madge:] yeah, you know and I'm taking them a few things.
[speaker009:] Joan doesn't come here, does she?
[speaker007:] She's been once or twice.
[Madge:] She came early on, then of course I've missed, I've missed February and March.
[speaker004:] Well I've missed most of them.
[Madge:] I wanted to come today cos the last
[speaker007:] You're away, away again, are you?
[Madge:] Mm
[speaker007:] Where are you off to this time?
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] You two! I can't keep track of you.
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER] Oh I'm going to Holland just
[speaker007:] Holland? Oh yes
[Madge:] in a fortnight, just for five days. That's in a fortnight just to
[speaker007:] You going by the ferry?
[Madge:] Mm me and Joan. In May I'm hopefully going to Italy and, and in June to St Malo [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Lovely!
[Madge:] Mm. That's up to now!
[speaker009:] You make the most of it while you can. That's what my family say. Just do it while you
[Madge:] Yes and I want to just visit a friend either end of July beginning of August and then in September it's our five day study tour to Worcester, you know. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Oh what's the, what's this study tour?
[Madge:] Well, old country houses.
[speaker009:] Oh! Oh yes!
[Madge:] We've done it, we've been four years, you know
[speaker009:] you've been going to the
[Madge:] Mm
[speaker009:] yeah
[Madge:] done it four years and this year we're Worcester.
[speaker007:] And at the start go for that it does sound interesting.
[Madge:] Ah well we shan't computers any more she's doing art. We've been doing French art as well, so... anyway it's an afternoon out that's what I
[speaker007:] I don't know how you keep track of them! I can't!
[speaker004:] I think we should take the chairs and things outside
[Madge:] I know! I know! I never brought me sunglasses out, that was the trouble!
[speaker004:] No, that is the thing
[Madge:] You see, mm
[speaker004:] doesn't it after a while
[Madge:] yes it reflects upon you
[speaker007:] Nobody looks erm keen to come inside
[Madge:] No, well I just thought unless we, we must do it.
[speaker004:] I think we might er suffer from the sun if we sat in it too much
[speaker007:] Too, too early. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] Yes, that's right a little on the back of the neck, you see.
[speaker007:] A little bit to start with. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] That's right yes.
[Madge:] Anyway, you're back aren't you? You've been away a long time haven't you?
[speaker007:] Hey! What are you lot doing starting like this without us? Oh I heard the bell but I didn't know what it was for!
[Madge:] Double it sixteen, you see
[speaker009:] Yeah
[Madge:] they never the old folks, are we?
[speaker009:] I'm, I'm alright.
[Madge:] I mean I'm... it must be me bowling time, this time.
[speaker009:] Have you got all vowels?
[Madge:] Ain't it funny
[speaker009:] You've got four Os!
[speaker004:] Sorry to start that way up, but still... that's the way, shouldn't do it that way I get confused whether I'm putting the right word down. Traded, that's correct, isn't it?
[Madge:] Oh that's good, isn't it?
[speaker004:] Erm two, three, erm five, six, seven eight. It's only sixteen the same as yours. That's right.
[Madge:] What I like.
[speaker004:] Now we're gonna fill in the top half of the board, aren't we?
[Madge:] Yes....
[speaker009:] Oh don't worry, Jean....
[speaker004:] I remember doing a crossword once and I couldn't imagine what this word was that I'd got. I thought what on earth does once mean, [spelling] O N C E []. It took me ages before
[Madge:] Oh yes, once [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER] Yes, well reading it down reading it down and it must be right and I was busy looking through...
[Madge:] counting letters, aren't you?
[speaker004:] Yes
[speaker003:] I wasn't counting letters never mind....
[speaker004:] ...
[Madge:] So have I, I'm sorry, just made me count mine. Hasn't somebody taken mine?
[speaker003:] Have you?
[Madge:] Yes
[speaker003:] Oh, you, well take that one then.
[speaker009:] I've nothing above a one again
[Madge:] No but it's
[speaker009:] eight
[Madge:] so it makes it a bit better.... Trouble is we shall lose all our vowels now and we could need them later.
[speaker009:] Oh sorry yes....
[Madge:] Just a minute!... But it don't do much, does it? What's that a triple?
[speaker004:] No that's a triple. That's twelve
[Madge:] Twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen.
[speaker004:] That's okay. We're all on the sixteens.
[speaker009:] Do a lot to the next one
[speaker007:] I've opened it out for you, look, haven't I, with that A.
[Madge:] Don't bother to change it, Don, don't bother
[speaker009:] Don't worry about turning it for me
[speaker004:] to turn it round.
[speaker009:] No, don't bother....
[Madge:] as I said they're all little letters [spelling] S A I D [], said...
[speaker007:] Yes...
[speaker004:] We're playing...
[Madge:] It's a totally different set-up this time, ain't it?
[speaker004:] Mm yes.
[speaker007:] I'm going out this way...
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]... Erm two and that's be two. Two, four, five, nine er and a four, thirteen, fourteen. I don't mind if I have them in figures every time Have you got the same one?
[speaker003:] I've got an I. They must be all in there. Nobody had an I [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] ...
[Madge:] What has he got? Oh it's some
[speaker004:] Got a roller
[Madge:] I thought it was
[speaker004:] Well it is a roller, isn't it?...
[Madge:] So what have we now then? Four, five, eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve!...
[speaker007:] Sorry you've got haven't you?
[Madge:] No it's alright. No! I was acting about.... Oh that's right, yes flag, [spelling] F L A G [], flag.... That's eight for me twelve...... Are you alright, Mary?
[speaker003:] There were only three before? Somebody's putting them back in!
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] Somebody's, somebody's put a Q and a Z and an X back in there!
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker003:] Three, two!... This is one of them I think I'm staying on this next game.... Can you have roe in singular or is it always plural? Roe? You know, like, in a fish roe.
[speaker004:] Ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, twenty six.
[speaker003:] Cos there's some words you can only have in plural and not in single.
[speaker001:] Mother and hen!
[speaker003:] Aye that's. Never saw it, Don. Never saw it.
[speaker004:] ...
[Madge:] Erm double wo is it double word? Yes.
[speaker004:] Yes.
[Madge:] Mm
[speaker004:] Yes.
[speaker003:] No, you don't. You're looking for the
[Madge:] much ado about nothing
[speaker009:] Much ado about nothing
[Madge:] I mean I know that's one of me doubles. No, but it's
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER] Yes, it's a double.
[Madge:] eight, ten, eleven, twelve, sixteen.
[speaker009:] That's right.
[Madge:] I was gonna say if we got into double
[speaker009:] Yes
[speaker001:] You're better missing a turn.
[speaker003:] You'd have been better changing one.
[speaker007:] Oh no, I wouldn't have got that one anyway.
[speaker003:] Are they all done now are they?
[speaker007:] Yes.
[speaker003:] Yeah
[speaker007:] Just as well. I think they're all ones.
[speaker003:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker007:] Who's got a dictionary?
[speaker004:] Er I think they have... Trevor's got an old one so they must have it. It's on the floor by Joan. It's only a double
[speaker007:] Yes but you get seven
[speaker004:] sixteen, seven, er twelve, sorry, nine, eighteen
[speaker003:] I can't see where I to get rid of.... I'm not
[speaker004:] Now we're playing all on this side without getting across.
[speaker007:] Mm
[speaker003:] He said no, aye, you can't see where that come from [LAUGHTER] It's upsetting him.