[Margaret:] He might try and come down again
[Richard:] What before
[Margaret:] before then, but you know it depends
[Richard:] Yeah
[Margaret:] cos he's, this Friday he's taking a group erm youngsters to Paris
[Richard:] Is he?
[Margaret:] That had been booked you see before
[Richard:] Yeah
[Margaret:] in fact he was also booked at Easter to go to the erm to Florence
[Richard:] But he couldn't
[Margaret:] again, but he's had to cancel that
[Richard:] Yeah, someone else has got to obviously in his place
[Margaret:] Either that or I'd imagine the people that went before have to sort of do it, but as I say he wasn't er, er we went up at dinner time on the next day and, because he went back after he the morning again, and we took Daniel up to the er, cos there was a station, Christopher picked him up there and off they went you see so erm haven't heard anything I presume [LAUGHTER] he got back [] alright but as I say
[Richard:] How's Carris taken all this anyway now?
[Margaret:] Mm?
[Richard:] How's Carris taken all this now?
[Margaret:] Well seemingly she's erm
[Richard:] A bit resigned to it now?
[Margaret:] a bit more resigned, there's another, there's another sort of erm possibility, I mean if they sold their house quickly of course then, you know they'd come down here obviously and they'd try and look for something, but it's not likely that they'd sell their house that quickly
[Richard:] No
[Margaret:] but if they did and
[Richard:] They sell it
[Margaret:] you know they'd all come down, but if they don't, erm
[Richard:] Christopher would travel
[Margaret:] possibility is that Marilyn would stay up there for another year with Carris you know in their house and Timothy of course and erm, then sort of move down here
[Richard:] What after Carris has done her er GCSEs?
[Margaret:] I imagine so, is she due to do them next year?
[Richard:] No she's not
[Terence:] No she's not you see she's
[Richard:] no
[Terence:] got another year after that
[Margaret:] after that oh I thought she was
[Richard:] I would of thought I would of thought is she, if they're gonna move this year is the year she's def gotta do it
[Margaret:] Yeah well Christopher knows that
[Richard:] Yeah
[Margaret:] but erm, if everything else being equal obviously that would be the thing to do
[Terence:] Yes, that'd be me
[Margaret:] but if they can't well
[Terence:] they won't want to be separated for
[Margaret:] well he
[Richard:] twelve months
[Terence:] twelve months or so
[Margaret:] He's going to be going up erm each weekend if this happens
[Richard:] Oh yeah I mean that's that's the
[Margaret:] and erm Marilyn will come down of course when she's at, she's worried as well about whether she's going to get a job, cos er, I mean they need to have erm a second income I should think
[Richard:] Well yeah, but I don't think the job's erm, I mean that's not the problem for her because she can always go on the agency you see and she can do general midwifery
[Margaret:] Oh on the agency can you?
[Richard:] Oh yeah, I mean, I mean she can like she used to go to an old person's home of a night time you know
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] or, or days, you can pick actually just when you want to do it
[Terence:] Oh yeah that's what she'll get something
[Richard:] she'll get paid, she'll get paid travelling and everything for that so that er I don't see that that's erm
[Margaret:] No well that's probably erm
[Richard:] no I don't think that's a problem
[Margaret:] no that's not a great consideration
[Richard:] I I don't see that as a
[Margaret:] Well I think it's just
[Richard:] I mean that could be a short term until she could get herself you know a full time regular post
[Margaret:] It's erm, you know, mostly Carris of course
[Richard:] Yeah
[Terence:] I mean I think if they can
[Margaret:] but she means if they sell their house they'll come down more every year then
[Terence:] Yes because in the summer I mean you, some time in the, in this next term would be the ideal thing really because that, if she can stay on for the summer term
[Richard:] Before September that's right
[Terence:] erm well most of it I mean she'll be take and erm
[Richard:] Yes like in September
[Margaret:] Timothy
[Terence:] Timothy will take his O levels you see during the summer term, well I mean by the end of June he'd of finished those so that
[Richard:] September would be the ideal time for erm, you know, to be starting down
[Terence:] Well July, August I mean any
[Richard:] Well yeah
[Margaret:] To get settled in
[Richard:] Yeah
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] but erm
[Terence:] and
[Margaret:] as things are at the moment I think it
[Richard:] But Chris
[Margaret:] Christopher's very much more happy to have met up with Bob in the office to see what he's you know the thoughts of
[Richard:] Yeah, he, he'd come away I think rather happy I he, he nev, you know he begun to see here
[Margaret:] He's had some more idea, he had no idea what be expected of him or anything
[Richard:] Yeah
[Margaret:] and this Bob erm has sort, he's been quite marvellous, he's set up some fantastic things
[Terence:] He's getting an O B E
[Margaret:] in
[Richard:] Is he?
[Margaret:] Yeah he's getting an O B E
[Terence:] next
[Margaret:] next week isn't it?
[Terence:] next week or something, yeah
[Richard:] Is he?
[Margaret:] And he's written books and all the rest of it and in fact he's, he's going to be erm lecturing at Royal College
[Richard:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] you know after he gets out from here on a temporary basis sort of thing, so that erm... Christopher says he's gonna be doing it for a year this lecturing, but it's very nice for him because he'll be able to contact him and Bob will help him if it's necessary
[Richard:] It'd be a difficult situation that will be for Chris then won't it I mean
[Terence:] Well Chris says he's gotta keep in with him for a little while, he said he
[Richard:] Right
[Terence:] he said I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd rather have, rather have him as a friend than an enemy
[Richard:] And how did he get out of the Chris think he'd get on with him?
[Margaret:] Oh very well
[Terence:] Alright
[Richard:] Was he on the panel, on the board?
[Terence:] I don't think so no, but you know I mean, for six months if Christopher's living here and having to go back at the weekend, for six months he gets an allowance
[Margaret:] A travelling allowance, so
[Richard:] Get it, yeah
[Margaret:] that would save them
[Richard:] yeah but what that doesn't take into account is the tiredness factor is it?
[Terence:] Oh no it doesn't
[Richard:] Because you work, you work the long days
[Margaret:] and go, go by train
[Richard:] He'll go back by train
[Margaret:] no question of Chris driving
[Terence:] Go by train
[Richard:] yeah, but you've, but you've actually got to do this, I mean, that's right
[Terence:] I know it doesn't, but at least it
[Richard:] Yeah, not fair enough, yes and he gets moving allowance as well
[Terence:] Yeah, erm
[Richard:] removal expenses
[Margaret:] So, I mean it's
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] We don't know anything
[Richard:] Oh, no that's
[Margaret:] more than that, nor does he really
[Richard:] I haven't liked to phone him up because it, you know, I certainly don't want to be, thought that, yeah, yeah, try and be nosy or anything like that, it erm
[Margaret:] But that I mean we didn't even know he was coming, father rang up on erm
[Terence:] It was ever so funny really
[Margaret:] Yeah because I had said to father during the day on Sunday, I wonder if any of our children are alive? Because we haven't heard or seen any of them [LAUGHTER] or anybody
[Richard:] Well I was, I was at
[Margaret:] No I'm not talking
[Terence:] Not you
[Margaret:] no it wasn't you was talking
[Terence:] we were thinking
[Margaret:] Bridget even hasn't phoned us either
[Richard:] I was out on the moor from, it's been a hell of a fortnight really
[Margaret:] No, no, not, not sort of getting at, anyway I had just said that to father you see
[Richard:] Yeah
[Terence:] I'd phoned up
[Margaret:] so father said well I'll erm go and see if erm Christopher's
[Terence:] Timothy answered the phone you see
[Margaret:] erm there
[Terence:] so Timothy said oh he said well you want to know what time he's coming tomorrow
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] I said pardon
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] he said well hasn't he told you? I said what? He said oh he says perhaps it was gonna be a surprise
[Margaret:] I've put my foot in it again
[Terence:] perhaps I shouldn't of told you, so I said well look Timothy I said this is a conversation that hasn't taken place I said when Christopher comes back in I said if you want to say anything you can, but feel free not to and we'll just, if he comes we won't know anything about it
[Margaret:] Play it by ear
[Terence:] that, that way, he must of said something because Christopher phoned up and said I'm coming down tomorrow [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] He did say something Christopher told me that
[Terence:] Oh he did, did he?
[Richard:] and I are off tomorrow and it's the first day off that we've had together you know, for
[Margaret:] Alright then, so are you gonna go out or something?
[Richard:] I might, well no we're not
[Margaret:] Go and have some lunch or something
[Richard:] Well I dunno, I don't know what we'll do, it's, there's plenty of work to be done around, but I've been out every night this week and I'm in tonight thank goodness, I need to be in
[Margaret:] Mm
[Richard:] erm, what's it? Twenty five miles over the moor for the weekend...
[Terence:] Oh and then of course, change the subject completely, we've just, we've been out this morning, have we been out this morning?
[Margaret:] We've been out together this morning, yes
[Terence:] We've been out this morning, that's right, we got back in and I was then going to go over to Saint Mary's church club, I wanted to go to the bank at Saint Mary's church, and erm, back door bell goes ding ding ding ding ding and I think it's Chris cos Chris is normally the only one, go out there and who should it be? It's Bill and his missus, do you remember Bill who used to caretake at school?
[Margaret:] No you wouldn't know but he was the caretaker at father's school, wonderful man, absolutely, he's got god knows what he hasn't got wrong with him, but he has sort of
[Terence:] which he's made himself
[Richard:] Good lord
[Margaret:] He's
[Terence:] he's made two of those up there you see
[Margaret:] Two of those numbers up there are his as well and a painting
[Terence:] That's a cat and a fiddle
[Richard:] Yes, strewth, what was I gonna say? I tell you, you're talking about names in the past, Fred do you remember Fred he was
[Margaret:] Yes, yes
[Terence:] Yes, yes
[Richard:] er Fred and er, I can't remember what his wife was called now
[Margaret:] Joan
[Richard:] Joan that's right, I met them down the town in Torquay
[Terence:] Oh gosh, I haven't seen them for a
[Richard:] Well Fred was working for erm
[Terence:] Now what was their name?
[Richard:] I can't remember, but Fred he's in the police now
[Terence:] Is he?
[Richard:] police now, yeah
[Margaret:] Ooh can I just say, sort of butt in there, I was at the hospital I had to go with my A C
[Richard:] Oh yeah and you met er, now who was in there, up there?
[Margaret:] Oh you, you've heard did you?
[Richard:] Yeah, but, no
[Margaret:] Oh yes that's, that's, that's erm, erm
[Richard:] Ray mum
[Margaret:] that's erm the mother
[Richard:] The mother
[Margaret:] she's a wonderful erm, she's a nurse that does the A C clinic
[Richard:] Oh is she?
[Margaret:] Yeah and I said to her erm, and she said I don't know how it came out about her son in the fire service, oh I know she'd just come back from Orlando, cos she'd been off work having had a hysterectomy and she had three week's leave due to her
[Richard:] And you said your son's going to Orlando
[Margaret:] so she went to erm Orlando
[Richard:] I am
[Margaret:] so I said oh my son's going there sort of erm this summer and er she said oh don't they live you know locally, so I said well in Newton Abbott and erm he works in the fire service
[Richard:] So does my son
[Margaret:] and so
[Richard:] Ray told me about it, he said that erm this bloke
[Margaret:] ah he said that ah she's a lovely lady she really is
[Richard:] so
[Margaret:] but then after, not after, before then, I was sitting up waiting to give my bloody when Mrs said
[Richard:] Pat's Pat's wife
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] er Pat's, Pat's mother
[Terence:] Mm
[Richard:] she used to live in
[Margaret:] she said to me, erm
[Terence:] Oh he's in the fire service?
[Richard:] Yeah
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] Pat, Pat works in office
[Terence:] Yeah with you?
[Margaret:] Is he? Yeah that's right
[Richard:] Yeah he works in the same office
[Terence:] God
[Margaret:] She said erm he's in erm
[Richard:] Fire prevention
[Margaret:] Torquay and fire prevention oh I said he must be with Richard, yes she said he is
[Richard:] Yeah, yeah
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Ah ain't that funny both on the same day
[Richard:] But Fred was saying, er because, erm the dreadful thing was I couldn't remember his name to start with I think I could try if I knew but I couldn't remember what his christian name
[Terence:] Fred
[Richard:] Fred
[Margaret:] Angela wasn't it the girl's name?
[Richard:] Erm
[Terence:] Oh Angela
[Richard:] and er actually Joan was quite embarrassed because she heard that you were in a box
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Oh goodness gracious
[Richard:] and I said well she wasn't the last time I saw her
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] She said oh I'm ever so sorry, she said perhaps it's your mother, I said no I said she was alive and kicking as well the last time I saw her [LAUGHTER] so
[Margaret:] Oh she probably heard that I had not been well
[Richard:] Well that's right
[Margaret:] that'll be it
[Richard:] that's what I'd guessed, erm, so I said no, I said they're fine, so she said oh I'm ever so sorry I said don't be I said these sort of things get around, I mean it's, she kept go and then I went on to describe how I virtually done not too a dissimilar thing going up the road trying to talk to people about writing in to object, you know with this planning application and erm, I said I sort of knock on someone's door up there and I thought it was the next door that the husband had died and it was that one
[Margaret:] Oh dear
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] you can't help putting
[Richard:] I'm going to go to the planning committee meeting there
[Margaret:] Are you?
[Richard:] on Monday and then happily leave around about ten o'clock
[Margaret:] So you can go alright can you?
[Richard:] Oh yeah
[Margaret:] They'll, they'll allow you to go?
[Richard:] Oh yeah you're allowed to go in and watch, you're not allowed to say anything, but I just wanna go in and, and er
[Terence:] See who says what
[Richard:] Yeah
[Terence:] Yeah, that's a good idea, mm
[Margaret:] Yes well I mean had we had any idea about this, obviously father would of
[Terence:] Didn't even go to the committee dear, this one
[Margaret:] Didn't even no I've never even went to the committee, yours was
[Terence:] That was, that was the trouble with ours
[Margaret:] going to a committee
[Terence:] absolutely I'm sure of that
[Richard:] Well I mean it's, it's well as soon as, it's, well did you write in and object in within the time?
[Margaret:] Oh yeah, yes
[Terence:] I wrote, I wrote a foolscap letter with about nine points on it and somebody who, the architect, Chris's architect next door said with a letter like that going in, it must go to the committee
[Richard:] Mm
[Terence:] so I wasn't bothered, but it didn't go to the committee and now, afterwards when I
[Richard:] Mm
[Terence:] then it was too late
[Richard:] But you can't appeal against it, you can't appeal against it
[Terence:] No, no
[Margaret:] No that's right
[Richard:] they,
[Terence:] they can appeal
[Richard:] they can appeal
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] but you can't and I think it's very wrong that one man should have, be almighty god really, do
[Margaret:] This present mayor was away on holiday at the time, he said perhaps that I should of seen that erm it would go to committee
[Richard:] I mean I have gone to the trouble, I have been in to see the planning officer that's dealing with it, erm I've written to every single member of the planning committee, I've written to the Environmental Health who have written back to me saying they offer no objections and there because the smell won't be a problem so I've written them back another stinking letter and saying well erm
[Terence:] Come and live next door
[Richard:] I, I completely disagree with your thoughts on the fact that there won't be a smell, so much so that the slightest smell if the, if the er proposal gets the go ahead and I shall be on to your office and asking to speak to you personally, to come and [LAUGHTER] smell [] this erm
[Margaret:] And the rubbish, I mean the, the environmental people
[Richard:] Oh they, they say it's all controllable so that I've, I've answered, I haven't just let the Environmental Health wash over me I've actually written back to them again, er I'll be interested to see whether I get a letter back from them, but I phoned up the Council this morning and they're rejecting on two grounds, one is to do with the highway and the sort of the traffic situation coming in there, although the, the authority, the Highway Department aren't objecting to it and the other one is erm, on local environmental issues I think you know that is, is unsuitably, unsuitable environmentally to the area... well I can only say that I'm grateful to the planning, to the planning offices for they're going out on a limb if you like because I think they're on thin ice... erm... and so long as the committee will, will back them up I mean I don't know of what else I could of done as a person
[Terence:] No nothing, I don't think you could of done any more, you got it to committee and, and there's nothing more than you can do than that
[Richard:] erm, so that if, if they then go to an appeal er, I was talking to this planning officer and I was saying that I think I'll consult them, he said I don't think you'll need to he said, and of what you've done so far is pretty good and I can get access to all the letters that have been written in, in objecting into the into the homes
[Margaret:] Have a lot of other people written in and objecting?
[Richard:] I think there's I think there's quite a few and I think this is what swayed it, the fact that they have had erm, I know of at least ten... say ten, there's one, two, three on the other side of the road which is good because Bob which is another one, so that's four, there's which is the other side of the shop, is five, there's us, six, Jean seven, the eight, erm the guy the other side of the which is nine, there is Ginny over the and the erm old persons' home, that's ten that I know of for certain about, er and then I've heard of other people were gonna be writing in, now whether they actually did or not I don't know
[Margaret:] Mm, as you, see you, you really do need
[Richard:] but I'm sure, if if I've had ten objections, I mean I've done
[Terence:] You've done very well by that, you know
[Margaret:] You really have been to houses
[Terence:] I wish we of had that knowledge when
[Margaret:] Had we known about it because this is the sort of thing we could of gone
[Terence:] We would of done the same sort of thing and could of gone in to see the planning officer but I just, I just assumed you know that, that life was fair but of course there's no justice in this life
[Richard:] But er, the only, the only, yes, no the only other thing I would of said that you could of perhaps done would be go to to a Local Authority ombudsman
[Terence:] Well I, we went there afterwards
[Richard:] Did you and what did he say?
[Terence:] but it was too late you see and there was no, I mean
[Margaret:] It was passed
[Terence:] I, I couldn't produce any evidence of malpractice, I mean I could
[Richard:] No
[Terence:] think what I'd like, but I couldn't prove anything and erm, so there was nothing that the ombudsman could do at that stage, at, as the stage complete
[Richard:] Yeah
[Terence:] erm and there was nothing that a Member of Parliament could do, this is the trouble I mean it, it with everybody was saying you should of contacted us before it went to
[Richard:] I'm going to see Patrick tomorrow, there's a coffee morning up in the village, but erm
[Margaret:] Well you went to see him
[Terence:] and he, he is very keen to try and change the law so that people like you and I who is
[Richard:] can appeal
[Terence:] can, can appeal against the decision which goes against us, it's, its not fair that we
[Richard:] because we we're the third party we're not allowed to appeal against it
[Terence:] It's not fair that the, the other people
[Richard:] I know
[Terence:] can appeal but you can't
[Richard:] I know the person whose house, I mean, I've spoken to Jane at some length and I'll probably ring her tonight erm... but erm, I, I might go around and see old erm tomorrow at a coffee morning I think up in the village
[Margaret:] But I think that he I find he's
[Terence:] Anything he does
[Margaret:] he's very sympathetic to the likes of
[Terence:] at least, at least you've got it's going to committee, it's not gonna be just on the on the rest on one man
[Margaret:] One person with er yeah
[Terence:] erm who will undoubtedly he'll have favourable contacts with the person who was applying.
[Richard:] I mean as I'm, I don't think they had any option with this I think because it's a change of usage, considerable change of use then it had to go before the committee, erm... but erm
[Margaret:] It's okay, even if they get send down then of course they can still appeal but you can't it's ridiculous
[Terence:] Well it's not fair
[Margaret:] No
[Richard:] That's right and, so I don't know, we erm... we live in hopes anyway.
[Terence:] And how's Helen?
[Richard:] Alright, I mean she's working long and hard and er...
[Terence:] How does she think she'll do with her A levels?
[Richard:] Well I think
[Terence:] Has she had her mocks yet?
[Richard:] No, not yet she's, she's had an accept, I'm taking her up to Cardiff on Wednesday on a B and two Cs, the thing
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] Oh for going to university?
[Richard:] Yeah
[Margaret:] What about her er York which she's had
[Richard:] She hasn't heard from York she's heard from Leicester
[Margaret:] She hasn't heard from them yet
[Richard:] and she's got an acceptance from them on a B and two Cs
[Margaret:] Oh has she?
[Richard:] erm
[Margaret:] Because it was York that was stopping her listing wasn't it?
[Terence:] What she going to, what she applying to get a degree?
[Richard:] History
[Terence:] History
[Richard:] The trouble is, I mean I can take, I can take her up to Bristol er Cardiff next week, but there's another thing to, to Leicester and I can't get her up to Leicester although she on a train, because I've got a governor's meeting that day and, and I can't avoid not being at that governor's meeting because I'm a chairman
[Terence:] Yeah
[Richard:] of the building and sites
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] erm... ha, I dunno
[Terence:] When is it for Leicester?
[Richard:] Do you know I can't remember the date, early part of March, early part of March, erm what she says at the moment is that er someone else from the college is going to Leicester next Wednesday when Helen's going to Cardiff and this girl is then going to Cardiff when Helen should be going to Leicester, so Helen says, and she wants to look at the same subjects as what Helen does so Helen says that they're gonna sort of go to the different colleges and compare notes when they come back from it so she might needn't want to go to Leicester
[Margaret:] Mm
[Richard:] erm, so I just, I just don't know, erm, so we just
[Margaret:] Daniel was saying hasn't she heard from any of her
[Richard:] so
[Margaret:] I said I don't honestly, I only know that er, erm
[Richard:] which is quite nice to have fir to have an acceptance to anyway
[Margaret:] Yeah very good
[Richard:] so... I don't think she'll get an acceptance to York on a B and two Cs... I think York is one of the better
[Margaret:] Try thinking, do you know somebody used
[Richard:] better I think
[Margaret:] to swear about Southampton for history
[Richard:] I don't know, I can't remember whether she applied for that, I know Harold his daughter went up to Southampton and he was horrified at the accommodation she was staying in, up there
[Margaret:] But I know that erm, for
[Richard:] I think I've just about finished with it
[Margaret:] Oh have you?
[Terence:] Have you? We've not had an appointment to go back have we since you've been home, but I suppose it was been October when we went
[Richard:] I've had, I've had two hundred pounds worth, I've given her a cheque for two hundred pounds
[Terence:] Have you really? What on earth have they done
[Margaret:] well he had all sorts of
[Richard:] I've had two, two, three crowns
[Terence:] That's only fifteen shillings
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] I've had a new plate, I've had a hell of a lot with, with a one of the something to one of the teeth
[Terence:] Yeah
[Richard:] crown dropped off so she had to put that back on, she never put, I had to get erm have another fitting for it, because she said the purpose of pins in her teeth in the tooth to try and get the crown to sit on, on the pins, erm
[Terence:] Darling
[Margaret:] Er I know, he's, he's told me
[Richard:] and in fact
[Margaret:] last time I saw him
[Richard:] I took, I took the cheque around on Monday, I had the, the last appointment on Friday and erm since I've had the abscess, the tooth that's got a crown on top, I think it's been pushed up a little bit and my top teeth, the first two keeps catching was this well it never has done I mean that, it's always been like that I've never had erm I can put together
[Margaret:] It's naughty of your mother not to let you have them [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] Oh, but this, it was catching the tooth that had the abscessing underneath it
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] god was it painful, and erm, so the crown has got a filling in it now [LAUGHTER] because she, to, to relieve the pressure on the abscess she had to drill right down through the crown, erm to go right through into the root area
[Margaret:] Get me ash
[Richard:] to get rid of the abscess, oh god it was painful, it really was, in fact I had it once, I had a load of penicillin, didn't finish the penicillin and it came back again and they had to give me a stronger drug then for five days
[Terence:] Oh I see
[Margaret:] Did you erm, did you
[Terence:] that's the trouble with them
[Margaret:] have any help?
[Richard:] Yeah, put it all, I mean they I put that in as
[Terence:] of course you get that
[Margaret:] Yes
[Terence:] you get that back?
[Richard:] I have to pay tax on that lot mind, but I mean it's something... you know like it's still costing me fifty pounds
[Terence:] Yeah
[Richard:] erm
[Terence:] but still that's a bit better than two hundred
[Richard:] Yeah
[Terence:] Oh
[Richard:] erm
[Margaret:] And Paul is
[Richard:] them thing wasted I mean, I don't know, ha got danger damage in the back of his head I think at times
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] he's so laid back, he's doing, he's doing erm the C grade for maths now, that's what he's gonna apply to, to go for
[Margaret:] Where, what?
[Terence:] For C grade in maths
[Margaret:] What is that?
[Richard:] Well it's the intermediate maths
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] Oh I see yeah
[Richard:] We bought, we bought him a load of revision books erm from Smith's er not for maths but for chemistry, biology, physics,ma, not maths something else, Cherry went and bought four of them and Helen had got one for French anyway, so we told him he's got to erm get down to some serious
[Terence:] Serious work
[Richard:] serious work on him
[Terence:] weekend they're coming
[Margaret:] The, the erm the maths, is this erm
[Richard:] He's quite confident about the maths now with intermediate, he says that er, he doesn't see
[Margaret:] He hopes to get a one
[Terence:] weekend after
[Richard:] he doesn't see any problems with that at all, no
[Margaret:] Was that the one that Helen should of done?
[Richard:] She, they should of put her in for the intermediate
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] they put her in, they put in for the higher
[Margaret:] Mm, mm
[Richard:] Yeah
[Margaret:] Mind you, you see in the long run they proved that she was
[Richard:] Well all, all that
[Margaret:] good enough to do it
[Richard:] all that proved to me is, is that Helen the board, the examination board that Helen did at the college, she said it was a much, a much better exam to do than it was at
[Terence:] Was it?
[Richard:] she felt much happier about doing it
[Terence:] Mm
[Richard:] and it's a different, it was a different exam to the one she was doing at Cuthbert Main, so I don't know, erm I'm not certainly enough qualified to arguing about qualified matters
[Terence:] No, no
[Margaret:] No
[Richard:] at school
[Margaret:] I hear is sort of going back quite a bit
[Richard:] Oh he does quite a bit of, he does a bit of erm supplying it
[Margaret:] Tony told me
[Richard:] and... but er right I've gotta get back to work
[Margaret:] we've had er a man rang to the hall clearing out thing, that erm they'd left, father's gotta go down there next Tuesday so
[Richard:] Yeah the stag group has definitely wound up, the whole lot has been wound up
[Margaret:] the, the erm, there are tents and all sorts of things you said they were comparatively new, erm because remember that big
[Terence:] Mind you the tents up there didn't look very new actually, I know one but there was one or two bits of tent then
[Margaret:] Oh I don't know what they do, but do you remember that great big jumble sale they had that raised over a thousand pounds? They had under the erm,
[Richard:] What the Scouts?
[Terence:] multi storey?
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] yeah
[Richard:] Four or five years ago now
[Margaret:] Well that was sort of mostly to, to be buying erm
[Richard:] Tents
[Margaret:] tents, but
[Terence:] Who yeah just phoned in to find out where the flags were, but it doesn't see the flags
[Richard:] It wasn't Andre that, that comes around here?
[Terence:] No, erm
[Richard:] Ferchase?
[Terence:] No, where's my diary, I've got, I've got his name in my diary
[Margaret:] Erm actually Kay got in touch with this man and in fact she had got Andre's name as well sort of
[Terence:] It's, er you know I yes, I erm
[Margaret:] he's a, he's retired, I mean he, he doesn't have anything very
[Terence:] Ivor somebody... Ivor somebody, no just a thought
[Richard:] How old is he?
[Terence:] Oh sixty five, seventy
[Richard:] Sixty, no it's not him
[Margaret:] Retired haven't they, because if somebody came to you cos you see, he was so upset about it
[Terence:] I think he's coming I think he's coming up to the high week group, what is he? He's something he's, he's, he's some, something to do with er with er, with the area and erm, and he's coming up for the high week group some time in the next, little while, and I said to him you were the group's up there
[Richard:] Yeah, what did he say?
[Terence:] Oh I think he was just surprised, I don't think he knew, you know, I mean
[Richard:] Because I'm on a district executive committee at the moment and I don't, that name doesn't ring a bell
[Terence:] He's erm
[Margaret:] Kay knows him cos he's
[Terence:] he's about, I suppose he's about my height probably slightly slimmer
[Margaret:] Slimmer
[Terence:] erm and I would of thought he's sixty eight something like that
[Richard:] Oh gosh no, well I don't know who that is, I've got no idea
[Terence:] He's got, he's got a big, a very big scout badge on his lapel
[Margaret:] And he had a scout badge on his tie, did you notice that?
[Terence:] No I didn't notice that on the tie, yeah
[Richard:] I wonder who that is?
[Margaret:] Kay knew him, she rang him up
[Richard:] Well I mean if it, if it's, if it's ten erm, I'm at the process of now looking to spend [sigh] certainly four hundred pound on a tent and maybe
[Terence:] Well I, I, I mean I wouldn't of thought that
[Margaret:] Your, your best bet would be to go up and sort of you know look at the tents that are up there so that you would know whether they went about
[Terence:] I'm meeting him nine o'clock Tuesday morning at the hall
[Margaret:] But I suppose you could go and look tomorrow morning
[Richard:] I'm at work erm well
[Margaret:] he's off tomorrow
[Richard:] erm, I, well I can't commit myself to going down to that to, I mean if it's, if I can I'll give you a ring because with Cherry being off as well it's, I mean it's gonna be unfair if I start, cos I've been so much
[Terence:] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[Margaret:] but if, if you are going to be spending a whole lot of money on tents and if these were any good
[Richard:] Well I mean it's, this it's patrol, it's two patrol tents in particular that I'm looking at, if they've got some decent er scout tents
[Terence:] I must say I mean I, I mean er there were two rolls
[Richard:] How big are the rolls?
[Terence:] Well I don't think they're big enough for a big tent, I mean one is fairly long, but er I don't
[Margaret:] But do, would it be
[Terence:] it wouldn't be any thicker than that I don't suppose, but I mean I wouldn't know
[Richard:] No, that
[Margaret:] The thing about it is
[Terence:] It, it I wouldn't of thought
[Richard:] Perhaps that doesn't sound like a patrol tent
[Terence:] No, it doesn't sound like a patrol tent
[Margaret:] This, er I know Margaret, Margaret erm, what's her name at the time, no, it's, I won't say Tina's daughter
[Richard:] I know
[Margaret:] Jim 's daughter
[Richard:] Yes
[Margaret:] Marcus and all them
[Richard:] Yes
[Margaret:] kids are called that's right, erm she had said at the time when they had raised all this money that er mostly gonna be spent on erm
[Richard:] Tents
[Terence:] Camping equipment
[Margaret:] tents and camping equipment so that
[Richard:] I can find out anyway because I can always talk to Andre about it, he'll know er what's being done about it, erm
[Terence:] Er anyway he, this fellow's gonna, we're going to clear all the rubbish
[Margaret:] So they, they, they've dropped the erm the group altogether then?
[Richard:] Yes and the
[Margaret:] Who else would that involve?
[Richard:] Well there was an adventure section as well
[Margaret:] Oh was there
[Richard:] erm, the adventure section was quite successful in a lot of respects they had quite a few people er attached to it, the scout group and the cub group, cub packs didn't have very many, but erm the adventure section had quite a few people, er and in fact we've got people doing the tent stalls at the moment that are from a seventh mutant, which is, what it was and of course they've disenfranchised if you like er but we're looking, the district is looking to create a new group with Buckland
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] so instead of being the seventh Saint Joseph's we'd be just erm Newton Abbott
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] so the seventh will stay
[Margaret:] Mm, mm
[Richard:] and because the Buckinary is so big and really warrants having a stag group over that neck of the woods
[Margaret:] They could well do
[Richard:] they are gonna try and hang onto this seventh, so it well might be
[Margaret:] Resurrected
[Richard:] that all its equipment is gonna be held on to
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] to try and set up a scout group
[Margaret:] But in it, it's wicked, in that, in that cupboard they've got two pairs of really good walking boots, when Kay saw them she said it's not their feet, because you see she had the cubs there right from the beginning
[Richard:] Mum, we have got the ten saws, last year one of the lads left with us a pair of eighty pound boots and fifty pound gaiters, left them and we don't know who they belong to
[Margaret:] Ain't it awful really?
[Richard:] the scarper boots you know with the yeti gaiters on
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Richard:] and the yeti gaiters are fifty pounds
[Margaret:] Gosh
[Richard:] fifty five pounds
[Margaret:] But anyway
[Richard:] and the and and, and the and the scarper boots
[Margaret:] he was he was so horrified about it because she had actually run all that right from the beginning
[Terence:] That came in this morning
[Margaret:] Yeah, I was gonna give you a ring to say it's been this way, pick them up... we had a piece for lunch and erm
[Terence:] That was useful wasn't it? Oh I suppose we can have a little go at this crossword
[Margaret:] Well we can have a go at I haven't even read the paper yet
[Terence:] Oh alright
[Margaret:] I mean I'll carry on
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] you, you sort
[Terence:] [reading] Encourages prison breaks []...
[Margaret:] The Co-Op here's got cordless jug kettle for twelve ninety nine
[Terence:] Have they? Cordless one?
[Margaret:] Mm
[Terence:] Oh
[Margaret:] one and a half litres, two point two kilowatt fill up
[Terence:] That's not bad
[Margaret:] and a cable tidy, that sounds quite good, these are half price things for ten days only... There's a remote control colour television for one thirty nine, ninety nine, save fifty pounds... they've got the dear tapes here look, erm six and a half hours video tapes, recommended price seven ninety nine can get for three ninety nine and there's another one here three pack, twelve hours video tape for six ninety nine... must end Saturday November the twenty ninth, oh perhaps I'll buy you one of those, oh I have bought you a birthday present haven't I?
[Terence:] Mm, mm... Do you suppose it's getting a bit the... the file of phrase is [reading] complete fury over trend []
[Margaret:] Erm complete fury over trend
[Terence:] complete fury over trend, there's three, three and four
[Margaret:] Mm, no
[Terence:] I, I, I was gonna tell you what I thought it was and I've forgotten haven't I? Erm all the rage
[Margaret:] Mm, you're very good, yes very good, that's excellent
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] I reckon... gosh look at that you can get a Tefal food processor it was thirty three ninety nine for twenty four forty nine at Comets, there's a telephone answering machine...
[Terence:] This is the long one, this is the five thousand
[Margaret:] It says here on the six o'clock Olympics today [reading] including live coverage of Wilf Riley's attempt to win the gold for Britain in the mens thousand short practice speed skating final [] it's six o'clock
[Terence:] Yeah that's the final he's got three, they've got two, I think they've got two of each before that actually... and that's the wide lane that's two lanes so that's the erm, when they do the long one
[Margaret:] Looks as if somebody was sort of passed over to the other
[Terence:] Yeah they do they cross over from outside
[Margaret:] Any lane
[Terence:] to inside
[Margaret:] I thought it were relay
[Terence:] Oh was it?
[Margaret:] That's what I thought because he's on the, he's by himself isn't he?
[Terence:] Well if they've separated you see you get one on the inside track, one on the outside track and they can be separated by a hundred metres so that there's one, one side one
[Margaret:] No you can see
[Terence:] there's usually two racing together in this one, but they're in separate tracks and one starts at the outside track
[Margaret:] This is the end track
[Terence:] crosses to the inside track and vice versa there the other straight where they change over I think... oh it's finished anyway... mm Hello how are you?
[Lucy:] I'm fine actually
[Terence:] You are
[Lucy:] I was tired yesterday
[Terence:] Mm
[Lucy:] I was tired yesterday wasn't I?
[Terence:] You were tired yesterday, you were indeed
[Lucy:] Falling asleep
[Terence:] Mm
[Lucy:] falling asleep wasn't I?
[Terence:] Well you were either tired or dopey...
[Lucy:] Look Holly
[Terence:] Nice
[Lucy:] Am I allowed to read them out to you?
[Terence:] Yes, we'll, we'll do that when we've had our spellings
[Lucy:] Here's mine
[Terence:] That's very nicely presented
[Holly:] Mine isn't, I haven't done a front cover
[Terence:] Well that doesn't matter
[Lucy:] Oh look Terry I've done an advertisement in the back
[Terence:] You've done a what?
[Lucy:] Advertisement
[Terence:] No you don't
[Lucy:] advertisement
[Terence:] Advertisement, that's better
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER] advertisement
[Terence:] Advertisement, oh right the riverside murder, well that's been nicely set out as well hasn't it? Right okay well we'll
[Lucy:] I did er an advertisement about understanding animals
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Anything you need to know about dogs, cats, farm or wild animals mm, right
[Lucy:] Understanding animals
[Terence:] Okay, well we'll do the spellings first and then we'll have a look
[Holly:] How many spellings we doing?
[Terence:] Well how many how many do you think?
[Holly:] I hope there's not
[Terence:] you didn't earn your
[Holly:] forty
[Terence:] you didn't earn the disco
[Lucy:] Terry
[Terence:] What?
[Lucy:] I, I've got a merit mark today
[Terence:] You've got a merit mark
[Holly:] What for French?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] For French?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] Oh why did you get a merit mark for French?
[Lucy:] Because I was good I did something that was very good
[Terence:] You were good?
[Lucy:] I was good
[Holly:] I never get any merit marks for, we never get any merit marks from our French teacher
[Lucy:] because I did something you had to
[Holly:] she's really very tight
[Lucy:] there was about twenty cards and you had to name everything that was on it, order everything, like you usually go, erm that's it or something and erm you have to learn it in the MAs and MEs and things and all that and then she showed you and you had to take everything on that
[Terence:] And you got everything right?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] Very good
[Lucy:] well done she said
[Terence:] How many more got everything right?
[Lucy:] About two
[Terence:] Oh about two, right
[Lucy:] but I'm wonderful so is my poem...
[Terence:] Er in French? Oh no that was your poem you wrote in your book, right
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] okay so we, because last week you had a thirty and thirty three and, and
[Lucy:] I had a thirty three
[Terence:] and the, and the stipulation is
[Lucy:] yeah I got thirty three
[Terence:] if you, what, what was the stipulation, if you get more than
[Lucy:] Thirty five
[Terence:] thirty five, if you get thirty five or more
[Lucy:] if the other person gets less you still have to
[Terence:] you still have to do it, that's right, you've both got to get more than thirty five
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] So yes, it's one to forty... can't be one to forty five because you haven't had tea... well if you had tea you could say you were fortified
[Lucy:] Mm [LAUGHTER]
[Holly:] We break up tomorrow from school
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] Yes oh I mean
[Terence:] Yes you do
[Holly:] I mean I'm really upset
[Terence:] I'm sure you are
[Lucy:] I'm so, so upset
[Terence:] And I gather you don't go back until Tuesday week
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] you have the Monday off as well
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] Yeah
[Lucy:] It's fun isn't it? Oh what are we doing?
[Holly:] There's
[Terence:] There'll be a lot of bread on that table will there?
[Lucy:] Pardon?
[Terence:] There'll be a lot of bread on that table
[Lucy:] Baker's day
[Terence:] That's right, there'll be a lot of bread
[Lucy:] Mm, three did you remember your money for the erm trip?
[Holly:] No
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] Which trip is this?
[Lucy:] The ballet
[Holly:] No, but my mum's coming afterwards so I'll give it to her then
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] My mum doesn't like me taking money to school, in quantities
[Terence:] Very sensible too...
[Holly:] that's why whenever I come into you from us I always give it to you afterwards
[Terence:] Mm
[Holly:] because mum says don't take it school because I might lose it
[Lucy:] Did we give you our maths money yesterday?
[Terence:] Mm, mm no
[Holly:] No
[Terence:] no you didn't
[Lucy:] No I didn't but did we give
[Terence:] but your mother did at the end of the day
[Lucy:] Yeah, yeah cos she said that
[Terence:] She's got a good memory
[Lucy:] No, cos she said after I came out
[Terence:] Oh yeah
[Lucy:] and then said no one 's taken the money in
[Terence:] That's right
[Lucy:] and I was meant to be taking it in today, but I forgot and so I just
[Terence:] Right, so are we ready?
[Lucy:] That's weird
[Holly:] What is?
[Lucy:] because you know there's ten on each side
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Lucy:] the, yeah, twenty I mean, well that one goes different and they started at the same edge, ah two twenty twos [sigh] oh
[Terence:] That's very clever well just
[Holly:] Just cross one out
[Terence:] just, just miss one you see, that's alright
[Holly:] Miss the bottom one
[Terence:] just don't, don't put a spelling in the line, no don't put a spelling in the line, just put a line there and a line there
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] and then put your twenty two there and your twenty three there
[Lucy:] Alright, yeah
[Terence:] Alright, so are we ready?
[Holly:] That's nothing great
[Terence:] Number one
[Lucy:] Number one
[Terence:] carriage
[Lucy:] carriage
[Terence:] carriage, a horse drawn carriage... or the carriage of a train I guess a plain straightforward carriage and number two marriage... marriage... as Lucy said that is what she saw on Neighbours yesterday
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] Yeah
[Lucy:] it wasn't very good though
[Holly:] Did you watch it?
[Terence:] No I didn't, no
[Lucy:] Oh it's funny
[Terence:] I, I only
[Lucy:] My uncle's getting married
[Terence:] I only saw it today, saw
[Holly:] Oh what happened today?
[Lucy:] What happened? Because I, I won't be able to see it
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] What happened to Des and Melanie?
[Terence:] What happened today well she's on the boat isn't she?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Forty minutes out to sea
[Lucy:] What they gonna do?
[Terence:] They've got to, she's got to stay on the boat until they're gonna try and find her somewhere else to sleep
[Lucy:] I knew they'd got to get off
[Terence:] and, and what's his name, the lad that's run away?
[Lucy:] Todd
[Holly:] Todd
[Terence:] Has got the sack
[Lucy:] Ha, ha, I reckon he's gonna come home soon
[Terence:] Well he should do because I don't think
[Lucy:] he's stupid
[Terence:] Right, number three
[Lucy:] thinks he's gonna go in a home...
[Terence:] Tuesday
[Lucy:] Tuesday
[Terence:] Tuesday
[Lucy:] Tuesday, Holly's called Wednesday in our play
[Terence:] Is she?
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, so she should know how to spell number four
[Lucy:] Wednesday
[Terence:] Yeah that's right
[Lucy:] I know how to spell Wednesday anyway
[Holly:] So do I
[Terence:] I'm not sure you know how to pronounce it
[Lucy:] Wednesday
[Holly:] Wednesday
[Terence:] That's right Wednesday right number five, family
[Lucy:] Family
[Terence:] Family
[Lucy:] I was thinking
[Terence:] That's a change
[Lucy:] how we got our name
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] er, mm, how we got the days of the week because I said that could name it Monday because that was the day everybody got their money, got paid
[Terence:] Yes that's not a bad idea perhaps that
[Lucy:] I don't know about Tuesday
[Terence:] When the days of the week were first erm
[Holly:] How did we get names of the week?
[Terence:] occurred probably nobody got paid anyway
[Lucy:] Mm
[Holly:] How did we get names of the week?
[Terence:] I, I, I have known some of them and I can't remember all of them, Thursday I think
[Lucy:] Thursday
[Terence:] comes from the name of the god of war, Thor and I think Thursday
[Lucy:] Thor
[Terence:] was Thors day
[Lucy:] Sunday it was always sunny, Saturday everybody sat down
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] Friday they had fried egg
[Terence:] Right number six
[Lucy:] [singing] Friday crisp and dry day []
[Terence:] people
[Lucy:] People, people I like people
[Holly:] People
[Terence:] You could look it up in a dictionary probably to find the origin of the word, people
[Lucy:] Rhubarb
[Terence:] I'll try and find out for you
[Lucy:] [singing] Friday crisp and dry day []
[Terence:] Number seven clothes
[Lucy:] Clothes
[Terence:] The clothes you wear
[Lucy:] Do you know what Terry
[Terence:] Not till you tell me
[Lucy:] No you don't, but
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] my cousin's coming tonight
[Terence:] Wow
[Lucy:] my cousin's very nice because he's only three
[Terence:] That's why he's nice because he's only three
[Lucy:] Yeah, because I like little children
[Terence:] when he gets five you won't be so nice
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Number number eight several, several...
[Lucy:] [singing] Friday crisp and dry day []
[Holly:] Several
[Terence:] I can't stop singing that now, if only you hadn't of said that
[Holly:] Erm
[Terence:] Number nine disgusting
[Lucy:] Disgusting
[Terence:] disgusting
[Lucy:] gusting
[Holly:] Because we had to discuss didn't we?
[Lucy:] So we had to
[Terence:] Were you both born in Devon? Are you both Devon children?
[Lucy:] Yes I was born in Newton Abbott
[Holly:] No I, I was born in Plymouth
[Terence:] Oh
[Lucy:] I was, I was born in
[Terence:] well that's near enough to Devon isn't it?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Devon
[Lucy:] got Cornish
[Terence:] I mean presumably you was born this side of the river?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, so that's still Devon, right now, number ten
[Lucy:] Tights are falling down
[Terence:] special, special
[Lucy:] I'm special person, I'm not really
[Holly:] I know you're not
[Lucy:] certain isn't it?
[Terence:] Right then number eleven... get that, that's very good Holly, number eleven woollen
[Lucy:] Woollen
[Terence:] She was wearing a woollen cardigan, woollen
[Lucy:] Cos it's chilly outside
[Terence:] Number twelve you go merrily on your way
[Lucy:] Dum dum dum dum dum merrily, merrily, I've done it
[Terence:] And number thirteen
[Lucy:] Ah
[Holly:] Ah
[Terence:] heaviest...
[Lucy:] Heaviest
[Terence:] Who is heaviest of the three of you? What is
[Lucy:] Me
[Terence:] wrong if I said who is heaviest of the two of you?
[Lucy:] It's the heavier
[Holly:] Heavier
[Terence:] Right, it's only two of you say heavier
[Lucy:] Heavier
[Holly:] Have you ever tasted clay?
[Terence:] Right if it's more than two then it's heaviest, I have ever tasted clay?
[Holly:] Yeah, we have we have done
[Lucy:] We have actually Terry because it's in your toothpaste
[Holly:] You have to eat clay
[Terence:] You won't, you will not get the taste of clay like tasting toothpaste because toothpaste
[Lucy:] No, but
[Terence:] has been flavoured
[Lucy:] we went, we went to a clay mine W D, W D B what's
[Holly:] and we had to eat them, eat clay
[Lucy:] and it just come out, just come out
[Terence:] yeah, yeah
[Lucy:] you know when it comes out
[Holly:] it's revolting
[Lucy:] Well it's a big pile and we just had to go
[Holly:] Yeah and
[Lucy:] Me and Rebecca were going ugh ugh ugh
[Holly:] We were I was saying ooh quite nice
[Terence:] Not the nicest of things, no
[Holly:] Well, no, and everyone was running up the slate
[Terence:] They were what?
[Holly:] Running up the erm, where all the big piles of the dust were to be
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] and then all were sliding down it
[Lucy:] You did you went from the top did go from the top
[Holly:] and then you go I'm gonna get that one at the top and they were running up to the top picked it and they, and ran down again
[Terence:] Mm
[Lucy:] Ugh
[Holly:] It was funny
[Terence:] Right, well let's go on, fourteen abrupt
[Lucy:] Pardon?
[Holly:] Abrupt
[Terence:] Abrupt
[Holly:] Abrupt
[Terence:] He was very abrupt abrupt
[Lucy:] Abrupt, that was wrong abrupt
[Terence:] he spoke in a very abrupt manner short manner
[Lucy:] I know mine is wrong, I know, I did so I put it right
[Terence:] Mm, do it
[Lucy:] [singing] It's Friday crisp and dry day []
[Terence:] Number fifteen
[Holly:] Shut up
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] that makes it easier for you, easier
[Holly:] I've got that word in my
[Terence:] Have you?
[Holly:] Mm
[Terence:] Oh very good
[Holly:] I might of I don't think I have there
[Terence:] No easier
[Holly:] I might have, oh look
[Terence:] easier
[Lucy:] I'll read it
[Terence:] No not now, we'll do it later, right number sixteen, succeed, succeed, I hope you will in succeed in getting them all right, succeed
[Holly:] I don't know how you spell that word suc
[Lucy:] I know, I know, succeed I've done it
[Holly:] It's probably wrong though
[Terence:] Well if you have got it right you will have to have it achieved number seventeen, which is success
[Lucy:] Oh success
[Terence:] so it's sixteen it's succeed and seventeen is success
[Holly:] I've got success
[Lucy:] Success
[Holly:] I don't know if that is it, how you spell it
[Terence:] Number eighteen material
[Lucy:] Oh I haven't done success yet
[Terence:] Material
[Lucy:] success
[Holly:] E R
[Lucy:] Did you want, did you want an yesterday?
[Terence:] Did I watch what?
[Holly:] Yep
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER] Rodney []
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Rodney?
[Holly:] Only Fools And Horses
[Terence:] Pardon?
[Holly:] did you watch Only Fools And Horses yesterday?
[Terence:] I didn't actually, no
[Lucy:] Rodney
[Holly:] They're, they're all repeats but
[Terence:] Mm
[Holly:] have you seen the one where he went, had to go to hospital cos he had the trouble had an irritable bowel irritable bowel
[Terence:] I don't know whether I have or not, yes I think perhaps I have seen it
[Holly:] and he was fighting he was going
[Terence:] mm
[Holly:] fighting
[Terence:] Right, okay then number nineteen
[Lucy:] I haven't done number eighteen yet
[Terence:] Number eighteen is material
[Holly:] Material
[Lucy:] Oh
[Holly:] material
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] And number nineteen, when something, when a plant dries up, you can say that it will wither
[Lucy:] Wither
[Holly:] Wither
[Terence:] Wither...
[Lucy:] Wither ah
[Terence:] And number twenty easiest, not easier but easiest... and the third task was the easiest of them all, easiest... now they were all your new words, now we go on to some of the older words now, number twenty one, occupy... occupy
[Lucy:] I like that word
[Terence:] and number twenty two accept, will you please accept this gift, accept
[Lucy:] No
[Terence:] not except but accept... and number twenty three language
[Holly:] Oh I don't like this word
[Terence:] language... this is what we are trying to learn the English language, language
[Holly:] Language
[Lucy:] Language
[Holly:] I think I know how to spell it
[Terence:] Number twenty four receive, receive
[Lucy:] Ow my foot's itchy, my foot's always itchy in here
[Terence:] He will receive his reward in due time, receive
[Lucy:] I before E except after C
[Terence:] And number twenty five believe... number twenty four is receive and twenty five is believe
[Lucy:] [singing] It's so crisp and dry []
[Holly:] Sorry
[Lucy:] have you singing that?
[Terence:] there's no attempting for taste is there? Number twenty six, she is a complete
[Holly:] Nutter
[Terence:] wreck [LAUGHTER] wreck
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] Er can we put on the end of this er spelling nutter
[Terence:] Yes, well, erm, number twenty seven entirely, I entirely agree with you, entirely
[Lucy:] Entire
[Holly:] Entire
[Terence:] Entirely
[Lucy:] Entire...
[Terence:] Number twenty eight grieve grieve
[Lucy:] Not grieve Mumma, Mumma please do not grieve or wept
[Terence:] It makes me grieve
[Holly:] Oh we're going up to my aunty this weekend
[Terence:] Are you?
[Lucy:] I'm not, but my brother's going to Austria this weekend
[Terence:] Yes he is isn't he?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Holly:] I'm going to see erm
[Terence:] And I wish I was going with him
[Lucy:] Er so do I
[Holly:] I'm, I'm going to see Cats on my birthday
[Terence:] Are you?
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Where?
[Lucy:] Can I come?
[Holly:] No
[Terence:] In London?
[Holly:] It's a family day out
[Lucy:] You said that you
[Holly:] No, on my actual, erm you know
[Lucy:] I'm going to Alton Towers on my actual birthday
[Holly:] in about in the Easter holidays, I'm going to see Cats, that's like my dad's treat because we can't go on the Friday that's on a school, which I would like to, I think I will go on
[Lucy:] I'm missing school on the Monday to go to Alton Towers so is my friend
[Holly:] Yeah I'll ask mum if I can miss school on Friday
[Terence:] When, which Monday?
[Lucy:] Monday after my birthday, the Monday on my birthday, because my birthday's on a Monday
[Terence:] This coming Monday?
[Lucy:] No, in June
[Terence:] That's what I thought, yes I mean
[Lucy:] then on Saturday, Saturday I'm gonna have the party
[Terence:] Right number twenty nine is it twenty nine?
[Lucy:] Mm
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Instantly, instantly
[Lucy:] Instant
[Terence:] do you, instantly
[Holly:] In
[Terence:] stantly
[Holly:] stant, and
[Terence:] If you spell it the way it is pronounced you'll
[Holly:] Instant
[Terence:] get it right instantly
[Holly:] stant, stant
[Terence:] instantly
[Lucy:] [singing] It's so crisp and dry []
[Terence:] Now number thirty... the thought occurred to me, occurred, occurred, or the accident occurred... when the lorry failed to stop at the traffic lights
[Lucy:] Why did he do that?
[Holly:] Because his brakes aren't working
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Well that's a possible answer, yes, number thirty one
[Lucy:] Or he's being just silly
[Terence:] curious
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] curious...
[Lucy:] I don't know how you spell cu
[Terence:] You haven't done it yet?
[Lucy:] Yeah I have done thirty
[Terence:] Yeah curious, number thirty two worthy
[Holly:] Mm?
[Terence:] Worthy
[Lucy:] Worthy?
[Terence:] Yes the labourer is worthy of his worthy, he is worth it, worthy, number thirty three, moisture... early morning moisture on the grass is known as
[Holly:] Dew
[Lucy:] Dew
[Terence:] Yes, moisture
[Lucy:] I've spelt it right this week
[Terence:] Number thirty four surrender, surrender...
[Lucy:] Surrend
[Terence:] and number thirty five... anxious, anxious, he was anxious to get his spellings right, anxious... I shall think I'll have to give you something for your birthday present and it'll be very useful to you...
[Lucy:] Nutty
[Terence:] a rubber, yes you'll must need a new one by then [LAUGHTER] an eraser, eraser, number thirty five was anxious, number thirty six is building
[Lucy:] Building
[Terence:] building, building, building
[Lucy:] I just can't
[Terence:] building, number thirty seven, naturally, naturally
[Lucy:] Naturally
[Terence:] Nature's way naturally
[Lucy:] Naturally, can't say that
[Holly:] Naturally
[Terence:] Naturally
[Lucy:] Naturally
[Holly:] Naturally
[Lucy:] Naturally
[Terence:] Number thirty eight disappeared, disappeared
[Holly:] I know how to spell that word now
[Terence:] the five penny piece disappeared down the drain
[Lucy:] Into thin air
[Terence:] disappeared... and number thirty nine companion, companion...
[Lucy:] Companion and then number forty
[Terence:] And number forty
[Lucy:] Ah
[Terence:] is the word that occurs four times at least in a nursery rhyme, there was a something man, who walked a something mile, he found a something sixpence upon a something style
[Lucy:] Crooked
[Terence:] Crooked, right, crooked, there was a crooked man who walked a crooked mile, he found a crooked sixpence upon a crooked style
[Lucy:] Crooked style...
[Terence:] Right, so
[Lucy:] Don't know how to spell crooked
[Terence:] You don't?
[Holly:] No, oh, I've killed myself with my nearly poked my eye
[Lucy:] Look do you like my, my pen Terry?
[Holly:] That's nice isn't it? Where did you get it from?
[Lucy:] Bulgaria
[Terence:] Bulgaria oh
[Holly:] You brought it back did you?
[Terence:] Right, so
[Holly:] Can I borrow you pen please Terry because it's a different colour
[Terence:] Yes
[Lucy:] Thank you
[Holly:] Could use a red
[Lucy:] I could, but I don't want to thank you
[Holly:] I think I will
[Lucy:] Dinky do
[Holly:] Yeah, I think I will
[Lucy:] There's another red pen there
[Terence:] Right number one, Lucy carriage
[Lucy:] C A R R I G E
[Terence:] Holly
[Holly:] C A R R A G E
[Terence:] You've both got it wrong, it's C A R R I A G E
[Lucy:] Oh
[Holly:] Put a I in there
[Terence:] C A R R I A G E right, number two, Holly, marriage
[Holly:] M A R R I A G E
[Terence:] Yes
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] er, it's silly isn't it? You've got that right and you've got carriage wrong and yet the only difference is the first letter... right?
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] So you should know how to spell carriage another time, it's exactly the same as marriage
[Holly:] Mm
[Terence:] starting with a C instead of an M, number three Lucy, Tuesday
[Lucy:] T U E S D A Y
[Terence:] I hope that's not what you've put...
[Lucy:] What did I say?
[Terence:] You said T U E S D A Y, I hope you've put a capital T U E S D A Y
[Lucy:] Yeah I have
[Holly:] She has
[Terence:] She has, right, okay, good... erm... Holly Wednesday
[Holly:] Capital W E D N E S D A Y
[Terence:] Yes
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] right, good
[Lucy:] Look what I've done
[Terence:] er number five Lucy family
[Lucy:] F A M L I Y
[Terence:] No, Holly
[Holly:] F A M I l Y
[Terence:] Right F A M I L Y
[Lucy:] Oh I've must of gone in
[Terence:] family, family, not famliy
[Lucy:] Family, family
[Terence:] Family, that's what you did you pronounced it famliy
[Lucy:] Family
[Terence:] It's family Number six
[Holly:] People
[Terence:] Holly, people
[Holly:] P E O P L E
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, P E O P L E, number seven Lucy clothes
[Lucy:] C L O T H E S
[Terence:] Right
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] C L O T H E S, number eighty sevel several, Holly
[Holly:] S E V I R I A L
[Terence:] I don't think so, Lucy
[Lucy:] S E V E R A L
[Terence:] Right S E V E R A L several, got it Holly?
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Number nine Lucy, disgusting
[Lucy:] D I S G U S T I N G
[Terence:] Right D I S G U S T I N G
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] and number ten Holly special
[Holly:] S P E C I A L
[Terence:] Right S P E C I A L
[Lucy:] Yeah, yeah
[Terence:] Good, right number eleven Lucy woollen
[Lucy:] W O L L E N
[Terence:] No, Holly
[Holly:] W O O L E N
[Terence:] No it's, it's W O O
[Holly:] W O O L L E N
[Terence:] L L E N
[Holly:] Oh I thought it was
[Terence:] W O O L L E N
[Lucy:] Woollen
[Terence:] but it's not double U O O L L E N...
[Lucy:] Er
[Terence:] so you could say that it's not double U
[Holly:] Double you
[Terence:] double L E N, it's double U, double O, double L, E N
[Lucy:] double you, double you
[Terence:] Right if you think of that double U, then you've got to double the O and you've got to double the L
[Lucy:] double you
[Terence:] Right, so number twelve horrily, Holly, huh
[Lucy:] Horrily
[Terence:] Oh that was horrible wasn't it? Right erm merrily
[Holly:] M E R R I L Y
[Terence:] Right M E R R I L Y, yes
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Number thirteen Lucy, heaviest
[Lucy:] H haitch, do what, how do?
[Terence:] H
[Lucy:] H I said that first didn't I?
[Terence:] You did
[Holly:] Well done
[Lucy:] H where am I, H E A V I E S T
[Terence:] Right H E A V
[Holly:] Yeah
[Lucy:] H
[Terence:] I E S T, yes
[Lucy:] I like to H it
[Terence:] H
[Holly:] I like to
[Terence:] I don't, I don't know why
[Lucy:] H
[Terence:] pardon?
[Lucy:] H is
[Terence:] Holly
[Holly:] Holly
[Terence:] H capital H O double L Y
[Lucy:] Holly do you say Holly? You don't say
[Terence:] You don't say olly
[Lucy:] H
[Terence:] you don't say olly, no Holly, Holly
[Lucy:] H Holly
[Terence:] and it's aitch not haitch
[Holly:] H O L L I E is my name
[Lucy:] aitch, Holly
[Terence:] I don't know why you say aitch and your brother says haitch [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] I say aitch
[Holly:] Becky says haitch she says
[Terence:] no it's, but it's, the, it's the name of the letter which is pronounced aitch
[Lucy:] Aitch
[Holly:] Says haitch
[Lucy:] haitch, O, I felt, you wouldn't be able to pronounce Holly's her, her name with an aitch would you?
[Holly:] Haitch
[Lucy:] Has to be an haitch, Holly
[Terence:] Oh no Holly
[Lucy:] Ho, ho
[Terence:] Holly, Holly that is how you pronounce the aitch, there is no other way to pronounce the aitch
[Holly:] You don't say Holly
[Lucy:] I can't twirl a baton
[Terence:] Right let's go on
[Lucy:] doesn't matter
[Terence:] Number fourteen Holly abrupt
[Holly:] A B R U P D
[Terence:] P?
[Holly:] T
[Lucy:] T
[Terence:] T A B R U
[Lucy:] You didn't get that right Holly
[Terence:] P T
[Holly:] I have, I put a T but I said D
[Lucy:] Oh, that's alright then isn't it?
[Terence:] Yes Lucy it is, right number fifteen Lucy easier
[Lucy:] E A S I E R
[Terence:] Right E A S I E R, sixteen Holly succeed
[Holly:] S U C C E D
[Terence:] Lucy
[Lucy:] S U C S C E D
[Terence:] No
[Lucy:] Mm, mm
[Terence:] it is S U C C E E D
[Holly:] Double E D?
[Terence:] Yes, S U C C E E D
[Holly:] Succeed
[Terence:] Succeed
[Lucy:] Succeed
[Terence:] and you say nothing succeeds like success and number seventeen is success and how do you spell success
[Holly:] Erm
[Lucy:] I know
[Terence:] Lucy
[Lucy:] how to spell it, but I don't think you spell it like that, I know how to spell it
[Terence:] How did you spell it?
[Lucy:] I spelt it S U C S E E D
[Terence:] No how, how, how did you
[Lucy:] but I know how to
[Terence:] spell it Holly?
[Holly:] S U C C yes
[Terence:] Well, well it is S U C C
[Holly:] E double S
[Terence:] E double S
[Lucy:] Er...
[Terence:] Succeed is S U C C E E D, but success is S U double C E double S
[Lucy:] My hair's all cut off there
[Terence:] Pardon?
[Lucy:] My hair's all cut off there
[Terence:] Your hair's all cut off
[Holly:] That's really interesting
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] It doesn't look cut off to me, it looks as if it's all there
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Holly:] Mm
[Terence:] Right, number eighteen Holly material
[Holly:] M A T E R I A L
[Terence:] Right
[Lucy:] Yep
[Terence:] M A T E R I A L number nineteen Lucy wither
[Lucy:] W I T H E R
[Terence:] W I T H
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] E R right and twenty Holly, easiest
[Holly:] E A S I E S T
[Terence:] Right E A S I E S T
[Lucy:] Yeah, yeah
[Terence:] Okay?...
[Lucy:] Is it me?
[Holly:] No
[Terence:] No it's not, I was just thinking I've, I must run that, right number twenty one, occupy Lucy
[Lucy:] O no it's Holly isn't it?
[Terence:] No it's Lucy
[Lucy:] Oh it is me isn't it? O double, O double C U P Y
[Terence:] Right
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] O double C U P Y er twenty two Holly accept
[Holly:] A double C E P T
[Lucy:] Yep
[Terence:] A double C E P T right, number twenty three language Lucy
[Lucy:] Oh it's me L A N U A G E
[Terence:] No
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] Holly
[Holly:] L A N G U A N G, no L A N G U A G E
[Terence:] Right L A N G
[Holly:] Yeah I've got it right
[Terence:] U A G E
[Holly:] I'm glad I got that one right actually
[Terence:] L A N G U A G E language er number twenty four Holly receive
[Holly:] R E C E I V E
[Terence:] Right R E C E I V E yes Lucy
[Lucy:] No C
[Terence:] R E C E I V E
[Lucy:] I miss the second E out
[Terence:] Er number twenty five believe Lucy
[Lucy:] B E I L I V E
[Terence:] No Holly
[Holly:] B E L I E V E
[Terence:] Right B E L I E V E believe B E L I E V E... number twenty six wreck Holly
[Holly:] R, no W R E C K
[Terence:] Right W R E C K yes Lucy?
[Lucy:] No
[Terence:] W R E C K
[Lucy:] I put an A instead of a C
[Terence:] Wreck W R E C K that would be wreak
[Lucy:] You silly wreak
[Terence:] Number twenty seven Lucy entirely
[Lucy:] E N T I R L E Y
[Terence:] No, Holly
[Holly:] E N T I R E L Y
[Terence:] That's right
[Lucy:] Oh that's what I've got, don't why I said it
[Terence:] E N T I R
[Holly:] You missed the E R
[Terence:] You haven't got an E in there anyway
[Lucy:] Oh I thought you said
[Terence:] E N T I R
[Lucy:] Oh right
[Terence:] E L Y right
[Lucy:] I thought you, I didn't hear you say N T
[Terence:] E N T I R E L Y... twenty eight Holly grieve
[Holly:] G R I E V E
[Terence:] Lucy have you got that?
[Lucy:] I'm not too sure
[Terence:] G R I E V E
[Holly:] G R I E V E
[Lucy:] No
[Terence:] G R I E V E... G R I E V E twenty nine instantly Lucy
[Lucy:] I N S T A N T L Y
[Terence:] Right
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] I N S T A N T L Y and number thirty Holly occurred
[Holly:] I haven't got that right actually
[Terence:] You haven't?
[Holly:] No
[Terence:] I N S T A N T L Y, what did you have?
[Holly:] E, I N S T E A T L Y
[Terence:] Oh, right I N S T A N T it's instant, stant S T A N T L Y so Holly got that one wrong
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right number thirty Holly occurred
[Holly:] O double C U double R E D
[Terence:] Right, Lucy, yes?
[Lucy:] O double
[Terence:] O double C U double R E D, O double C U double R E D
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] occurred, right?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right thirty one, Lucy curious
[Lucy:] C U R I O U S
[Terence:] Right
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] C U R I O U S
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Number thirty two worthy Holly
[Holly:] W O R T H Y
[Terence:] Right
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] W O R T H Y, number thirty three Lucy moisture
[Lucy:] M O I S T U R E
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right M O I S T U R E, thirty four Holly surrender
[Holly:] S U double R E N D E R
[Terence:] S U double R E N D E R
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right Lucy
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Er thirty five lucy anxious
[Lucy:] A N X O erm I U S
[Terence:] Say that again
[Lucy:] A N X O I U S
[Terence:] No Holly
[Holly:] A N X I O U S
[Terence:] Right A N X I O U S... A N X I O U S... thirty six building Holly
[Holly:] B U I L D I N G
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right B U I L D I N G thirty seven Lucy naturally
[Lucy:] N A T U R A double L Y
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] Yes N A T U R A double L Y thirty eight disappeared Holly
[Holly:] D I S A double P E A R E D
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, good, thirty nine Lucy companion
[Lucy:] C O M P A N I O N
[Terence:] Good
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] companion and lastly number forty crooked Holly
[Holly:] C R O C K E D
[Terence:] No, that's crocked
[Holly:] Oh
[Terence:] Lucy
[Lucy:] That's I, I've got the same
[Terence:] You've got the same?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] How do you spell a crook? A shepherd's crook
[Holly:] C R
[Lucy:] C R
[Holly:] double O K
[Terence:] Right
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] so crooked is C R double K E D
[Lucy:] E D
[Terence:] crooked
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Holly:] Oh god thirty three
[Lucy:] Twenty six
[Terence:] Yeah, Lucy's got twenty six and you've got thirty
[Holly:] Thirty three
[Terence:] thirty three, now I've missed one out, you... the first one you both got wrong was carriage
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] What was the next one you both got wrong?
[Holly:] Ma marriage, no I got marriage right
[Terence:] No carriage I said
[Holly:] Oh carriage
[Terence:] Yeah, now what was the next one you got wrong?
[Lucy:] I got family wrong
[Holly:] Oh I got several
[Terence:] Yeah what's the next one you got wrong?
[Holly:] Woollen
[Lucy:] Yeah woollen yeah
[Terence:] Right, did, did you not get nothing wrong before woollen? Between carriage and woollen?
[Holly:] I got several
[Lucy:] I got family
[Terence:] Several wrong
[Holly:] Yeah
[Lucy:] I got that right and I got family wrong
[Holly:] And I got several
[Terence:] Wait a moment, okay so let me get, who got several right?
[Lucy:] Me did
[Terence:] You got it right Holly got several wrong and Lucy got family wrong
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] that makes it wrong
[Holly:] And I got family right
[Terence:] that makes it wrong, so Lucy's twenty six and Holly's thirty three again Holly's thirty three
[Holly:] I think thirty three's my lucky number
[Terence:] but Lucy that's four less than the last time... so that, have, have you got them all written down your corrections?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, well please make sure this time you really go to work on those as well, now we've got thirty three to have haven't we, now just let's have a look at that and make sure that you
[Lucy:] Picnic, picnic
[Terence:] know all the words that they all make sense to you picnic yes
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] arithmetic, flood, wooden
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] else, farewell, saucer, aunt, pencil, ocean, colour, clumsy, holy, navy, losing
[Holly:] Yeah
[Terence:] then going down the next list September, chief, successful
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] soldier, Australia, reached, thief, foolish, pearl, zone
[Holly:] Mm
[Lucy:] Erm a place like the next zone
[Terence:] The next zone
[Holly:] The next zone
[Terence:] yes zone, right malaria
[Holly:] A goose
[Terence:] goose, thieves, acre
[Holly:] An acre of land
[Terence:] an acre of land, deny, debt, geese, machine, prayer, New Zealand and doubt
[Holly:] Doubt yeah
[Terence:] Alright, so learn those but also learn the ones that you got wrong this time, you've got, you had one, two, three, four, five, six there, one after the after, in fact you had seven almost in that list there, and they're the ones you've really got to learn Lucy, right, right, so let's erm
[Lucy:] Read a story
[Terence:] let's hear the stories read, I think first of all you can call
[Holly:] Lucy's is shorter than mine
[Terence:] heads or tails?
[Lucy:] Tails
[Terence:] Tails so if it's tails you read it first
[Holly:] I don't care who reads first really, but never mind
[Terence:] It's heads
[Lucy:] Holly mine isn't
[Holly:] I, I get to read first or second?
[Lucy:] mine isn't shorter than yours
[Terence:] You read first
[Holly:] Oh I wanna read second
[Terence:] so you read first right
[Lucy:] mine isn't shorter than yours
[Holly:] Is it
[Terence:] No, no, no, right we won't argue
[Holly:] mine's five pages
[Terence:] about it
[Lucy:] Yeah but that's them, they're like that
[Holly:] Well I don't care
[Terence:] So nice and slowly, don't rush it, read it so that I can understand it nice and clearly, sshh, listen
[Holly:] Yeah sshh
[Terence:] Right...
[Holly:] Oh what am I doing?
[Terence:] What's it called?
[Holly:] The Riverside Murder
[Terence:] The Riverside Murder, right on you go
[Holly:] [reading] It was Friday the thirteenth at midnight, the moon was full and shining brightly. Jane Hall had booked into the Riverside Hotel, she walked over to the reception desk and rang the bell, hello I'm Jane Hall I've booked a weekend stay here, ah yes Miss Hall if you would just like to sign here, here's your key, your room is six floors up, third on the right, have a nice stay. She took the lift up to the sixth floor and came to the room one O nine, which was her room, as she entered she noticed cobwebs and dampness on the walls, she flung her bed, bags on the bed and went downstairs to supper, after her supper she went to report, she went to the reception desk to report the cobwebs and dampness, she rang the bell a few times but no one answered, she was just about to go back to her room when she heard Mr Sandy the receptionist in the back room talking to her assistant, I put the body in Miss Hall's wardrobe, Jane ran upstairs and sure enough there was a body, Jane rang the police then straight away, please could you come to the Riverside Hotel, there's something I think you should see, there was a knock at the door and Mr Sandy answered it, hello, oh hello we've just had phone call from here, are you sure this is the right hotel? Yes, well I didn't call, but I did said Jane, well you leave, well I'll leave you to it said Mr Sandy, if you would come upstairs, the policeman and Jane entered her room, please look in the cupboard, I think we've got a case Sarge, do you mind if I make a quick phone call? Go ahead, hello is Sergeant Briggs there please, if you would just hold for a minute, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, hello this is Sergeant Briggs who's calling? Sergeant it's P C Garfield, Sergeant Huddersfield and myself are at the Riverside Hotel, we've just found a body in Miss Hall's wardrobe room one O nine, well could you describe him? He's about six foot two, short black hair, moustache, blue eyes and according to his record card he's twenty seven and his name is John Banks and he lives at 36 Church Hill Road, Upper Tracey, and we think he's been shot, I'll be right over, stay where you are. About fifteen minutes later Sergeant Briggs entered Jane's room, we'll take him back to the station and tomorrow we'll go around and ask a few questions. Oh by the way Miss Hall do you know anything, said P C Garfield, well said Jane I wasn't going to tell, but I think Mr Sandy and their assistant knows something about it, because about twelve thirty this morning I was going to report about the cobwebs and dampness on the walls and I heard Mr Sandy and his assistant talking in the back room. Well just that they had put the body in my wardrobe, that's a start thanks. The next day the policeman went where Mr Banks lived and they rang the bell, hello, hello are you Mrs Banks? Yes, yes I am. Well we've got some bad news about your son John, oh I think you'd better come in. Well what have you got to tell me about John? I'm afraid, I'm afraid, no, I am very sorry to tell you this but your son has been murdered said Sergeant Briggs, murdered, but how? He was shot, John my poor John, what am I going to tell his wife? He was married? Yes to a Mrs Stow before, I'm sorry we have to tell you like this, anyway do you know why he came to the hotel? Yes he had booked there for a week, I think it was for a business meeting with Mr Sandy, that's all I know. Mr Sandy, are you sure said P C Garfield? Yes he's the receptionist there isn't he? Yes he is, you've been a lot of help, thanks. At midday Sergeant Briggs and P C Garfield went back to the Riverside Hotel to talk to Mr Sandy. Do you know anything about Mr Bank's death said Sergeant Briggs? No, yes you do, don't lie, I heard you yesterday morning, twelve thirty, you were talking to your assistant in the, about you put the body in my wardrobe said Jane, okay I know something, in fact I know a lot more than all of you. I know who did it. Who said P C Garfield? Ah but that would be telling, just tell us said Jane, you really want to know don't you? Look stop playing games and tell us said Sergeant Brigg, okay it was me said Mr Sandy. I could of guessed said P C Garfield, but why? Well I was having an affair with his wife and I loved her so much I wanted to marry her, I wanted his land and his money, so I thought if he was out of the way it would be easier to get what I wanted and of course it was. I hope you know how many years you'll get for this said P C Garfield, of course I do I'm not stupid. Well if you come with me sir, I think it's gonna be about eighteen years for you mate, said Sergeant Briggs, thanks for all your work Jane, that's alright Sarge, a quiet weekend that's all I wanted, some weekend this has turned out to be said Jane []
[Terence:] Very good, right, good, let's hear yours
[Lucy:] I'll just read this bit
[Terence:] and we'll talk about it later on, yes go on.
[Lucy:] [reading] If you Liz, Elizabeth pretending to be Jessica or is Elizabeth really Elizabeth. Chapter one, Elizabeth was sitting comfortably on a low branch on a tall pine tree in the Wakefield's back garden, she had her knees up round her chin and was leaning against the trunk, this was Elizabeth's thinking seat, the place that she went to be alone, there was a lot to think about, tomorrow Mrs, Mr Davis her form teacher would announce the winner of the class essay contest. Elizabeth had written about saving the world and she thought her essay had a chance of winning, the prize was a year's subscription to the winner's favourite magazine. Elizabeth was going to subscribe to the mysteries around the world, she loved reading Amanda Howard mysteries, but she was also looking forward to tomorrow because it was the first of April, April fool day, April fools day. The day went, her and her sister, her twin sister, Jessica, did their annual April fools day joke, they [] [reading book] Elizabeth had won the essay competition and was just about to stand up when Jessica got up... and she walked... up to Mr... and she asked... and he asked her what magazine she wanted for the year... and she said Rock Seventeen... Jessica knew what magazine Elizabeth wanted and she just said Rock Seventeen. Then she had to stay behind and got Jessica's detention... and was late for her next lesson... and got another... detention... for running in the main building. But the trouble was they were both at the same time after school where she was meant to be decorating the hall for the disco after school that night. Then, she got Jessica's C for her cooking class instead of the A Jessica got off hers. But, after school she went to her detention with Mr... and course, the note said... going to the dentist, sudden toothache. So she went to... her other detention and there was another note saying, had to pick up my child from school. So, she went to decorate the hall and got sent out with people saying... she was Jessica.... Elizabeth slammed the kitchen door and dropped her... bag. What's wrong said Jessica? So Elizabeth told her everything that had happened today... and after half an hour they decided to tell everyone what the... they had done at the disco that night. So that night, at the disco... they told them and at last they believed them... and sorted out the magazine thing and changed the magazine to... Mysteries from Around the World. And then, they changed the cookery marks. And Jessica said, I'll race to the cake... and the twins were back to normal [].
[Terence:] Mm! Now... right! Well I am going to have to look at them both. And see if I, I like them both. There's, there's a lot of work gone into those. Erm... i if I'm honest I think I found... Holly's easier to understand... on a first reading... but that may be because I think perhaps read it. Perhaps, in a slightly more clearer way than you did. That doesn't mean that yours isn't as good. So I, what I want to do now, and I have do eve... take time to do it, I can't do it just now when you're here. But I want to look at them both... and I will go through them as well and mark them for spelling and for... for your punctuation and everything else. But, really you both put a tremendous amount of work in! They're great!
[Lucy:] Can I just say something?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Lucy:] Cos, didn't gonna say... know when Jessica... got up... cos I've got pretend... erm got up... for the erm
[Terence:] So what's it? What is it? It's April Fool.
[Lucy:] Yeah, it's April Fool's
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Lucy:] day. Er, what they do, every year they switch identities e, Jessica pretends to be Elizabeth, and Elizabeth pretends to be Jessica... but, this year they don't do that cos tha all their friends like know... and, this year cos their teachers and things still think that they're erm... so, they swapped identities they like, give detention and things to the wrong people and... stuff like that. And, when Jessica gets up to do... get the magazine it's cos Mr told her but course she thought it was Je, erm Elizabeth but she wa wasn't... so
[Terence:] What's D T?
[Lucy:] That's detention.
[Terence:] She went to her detention, I see! Right.
[Lucy:] So we just sort of say essay, D T to show what I mean.
[Terence:] Yeah. Well... well yes we used to get... used to get detention, yes, but erm... the thing we used to get more than anything else... was pink paper.
[Holly:] Mm?
[Lucy:] Did you have to take it home to your parents?
[Terence:] Pink paper
[Lucy:] To show that you've
[Terence:] was
[Lucy:] been naughty?
[Terence:] Pink paper was a foolscap sheet of paper like like that
[Holly:] Mm.
[Terence:] but it was pink!
[Lucy:] Pink!
[Terence:] And if you had to do... if you had, say, three sheets of pink paper because you've been naughty and done something wrong, you had to fill three sides of pink foolscap paper with writing. You might have to write an essay or you do copy writing on the pa, do three sheets of pink paper, you had to three sheets of writing! And it was pink paper... and at the top it had space for your parent's signature so that when you've done the work your parents had to
[Holly:] Mm.
[Terence:] sign it so they'd know if you'd had pink paper.
[Lucy:] What erm
[Terence:] That was the, that was the worst, that was the pink paper, and then
[Lucy:] what we normally have to do.
[Terence:] you got... yo would have to take and hour or take two hours, or take three hours and if you take up to three hours... or if you got three separate hours... that was detention... and if we were in our in the junior part of the school... in the first three forms... erm, you then had to go into school on Saturday morning. In the senior school we had to go into school Saturday morning anyway!
[Holly:] And you had Wednesday
[Terence:] We we
[Holly:] afternoon off.
[Terence:] No, we didn't! We we worked... Monday to Saturday
[Holly:] Our when my
[Terence:] morning.
[Holly:] When my
[Terence:] We had games on Wednesday afternoon but we had, in the senior school
[Holly:] When my
[Terence:] we had school on Saturday morning as well as the rest of the week!
[Holly:] My erm... my dad's mum, they used to go to school Monday, Tuesday... Wednesday morning, have Wednesday afternoon off, all day Thursday, all day Friday and Saturday morning! But they would have Wednesday afternoon off.
[Lucy:] Oh!
[Terence:] Right.
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER] For some reason []!
[Terence:] Okay. So we've got a little time left. Erm... let's... have a look at your... English... these English progress papers.
[Holly:] Okay.
[Terence:] Because, I want to do a little bit of that... erm... we are going
[Lucy:] Ah!
[Terence:] what page are we on now?
[Holly:] We started something last week., I mean I've finished that.
[Terence:] Yes, what paper was that?
[Lucy:] The Locuses.
[Holly:] About the Locusts.
[Terence:] What page was that?
[Holly:] I don't know.
[Lucy:] I don't know.
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] Here it is! Here's the page.
[Terence:] Page twenty eight. Page twenty eight. That's right. Now, how far did we get with that?
[Lucy:] Erm, we finished the bit about the locusts.
[Terence:] Right. So
[Holly:] Ten to five.
[Terence:] Okay. Number eight... we've got to do. I think.
[Lucy:] Look, look! Look!
[Terence:] Yes. Number eight.
[Holly:] I think you hold it right at the end.
[Lucy:] Do you?
[Holly:] Do this don't you?
[Lucy:] Oh you do don't you?
[Terence:] Did we mark it?
[Lucy:] No.
[Holly:] The
[Terence:] Did we not mark it?
[Holly:] They're all ma they're alright though. Cos we didn't
[Terence:] Cos we but we didn't the last one? So right! Okay. So we'll go on to page... that page twenty eight, number eight. If you'd like to do it now and then we'll mark it.
[Lucy:] Number eight?
[Terence:] Number eight.
[Holly:] Paper over
[Lucy:] Oh!
[Holly:] there.
[Lucy:] Yes!
[Holly:] Underline the correct answer in the brackets.
[Terence:] So write it down, don't underline it. Just write the, write the sentence down.
[Holly:] How do you write it though?
[Terence:] You gotta choose the correct one.
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] This should be very apt from what you've just been doing.
[Holly:] Mm!
[Lucy:] My, am I, am I an author now?
[Terence:] I don't know.
[Lucy:] Mm?
[Terence:] That might well be mightn't it? I know I'm, no I'm just coming to sort you out because... as you say you did that with Mrs. So, you haven't done this yet?
[Holly:] I've done that... Terry.
[Terence:] Right. Wait for Lucy to do it... and then we'll read it out.
[Lucy:] Oh! Ooh ooh ooh!
[Holly:] Don't think, the spelling's wrong.
[Lucy:] Yes I have! Cos I... I'm usually a good speller! One of these. Over to dad and Becky.
[Holly:] Oh, she's terrible!
[Lucy:] Mm. Doesn't know how to spell scene!
[Terence:] Does she not?
[Holly:] No, she
[Lucy:] No.
[Holly:] i, when we have like, something like scene one she puts S double E N!
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] Oh!
[Holly:] She doesn't know how to spell having. She goes, she puts erm, A, hey, no H, H A V E I N G! She's useless at spelling!
[Terence:] Right, so what have you got there? Well now, it should a be a person who writes books is
[Lucy:] An.
[Terence:] An.
[Lucy:] An!
[Holly:] Oh!
[Terence:] An author.
[Holly:] Mm.
[Terence:] An author. Why do you put an instead of a?
[Holly:] Because it's got a vowel!
[Terence:] Because author
[Lucy:] A vowel.
[Terence:] comme, starts with an A, right, a vowel. Right, number nine. So do number nine.
[Holly:] Mhm!... Oh!
[Terence:] So what have you got?
[Lucy:] It's a journalist.
[Holly:] Journalist.
[Terence:] A person who writes articles for a newspaper is a journalist.
[Lucy:] For a newspaper is a journalist.
[Holly:] Journalist!
[Terence:] Good! Right! Number ten then.
[Lucy:] When he breaks... [LAUGHTER] Oh sorry I didn't mean to []
[Terence:] It's when we break into a house to steal... is called a
[Lucy:] It's called... it's called a prisoner!
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER] Mm mm [].... Do you know the story... o, first of all I was gonna write about fairground... about a erm... ghost
[Lucy:] Ghost
[Holly:] train... then I thought, no, I wouldn't write that. Then I was gonna write about... a hotel... you know, erm Heartbreak Hotel... thought no, wouldn't write about that. Want something exciting, so I thought a murder!
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Yes. So it's a burglar, right? B U R G L A R.
[Holly:] A murder.
[Terence:] E actually yours made me think of a story that I was told many years ago on a coach trip over Dartmoor
[Holly:] Mm.
[Terence:] when a lady who lived on Dartmoor for many, many years... erm... was telling... stories of things that had actually happened
[Lucy:] True?
[Terence:] to her. Well, for instance, that she lived in a in an old vicarage, cos her husband had been a... a, no a tri, priest in the Church of England and er... we her house was haunted... and she was telling us stories and sh she quite often saw the ghost, she was never worried, she never... cos it never frightened her it wasn't vicious or anything like that and she often saw it... quite matter of fact. As a matter of fact, she often saw this ghost. But, she was telling the story of a man who was travelling over the moor... and it was many years ago... on horseback... and er he... was completely lost and wan, it was getting dark and he wanted to... stay somewhere for the night... and he sort of travelled and couldn't see anywhere and eventually down a long drive he saw a house wi, blazing with lights... so he went down this house... and er, all the windows were alight, you know... were lit up... and he knocked at the door and knocked at the door, and knocked at the door and couldn't get any answer, no one ever came to the door... so in desperation he thought well this is no good! So he went back up onto the main road and very little further on, in fact, he in fact found a village... and spent the night at the hostelry... and he said to the man in the hostelry... you know,he that he'd been lost and that a... a little bit back on the road he'd seen this big house all alight and he had erm, you know, gone in the drive and tried to get... get a room there but... couldn't make anybody hear... and the erm... the inn keeper said, no he said er... you wouldn't make anyone hear there, he said and if you go back there tomorrow... the house won't be there! And he went back... and it wasn't! [LAUGHTER]
[Holly:] Weird!
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] Why not?
[Terence:] It had gone!
[Holly:] What a ghost made it?
[Terence:] Yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] I like, I love
[Terence:] Told a lot of ghost stories, yes!
[Lucy:] I love listening
[Terence:] in my
[Lucy:] to ghost stories in Dartmoor.
[Holly:] Oh I know this really story!
[Lucy:] Go on then.
[Holly:] Right, it's about this erm... lady, I'll make it that she lived on Dartmoor with her erm grandson... erm... and her... moth and he sa daughter and she is a gran, she was a grandlady... a grandmother.
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER] A grandlady []!
[Holly:] [LAUGHTER]... And erm, they lived in this little cottage and erm... every night erm... the moth, she would always stay up really late and the mother and erm her son would go to bed... and she would always go out of this erm... go out of the house... every night and she would go, cos she had these three fingers which were blades
[Lucy:] Oh!
[Holly:] you know like Freddy Kruger... three fingers that looked like blades... and every night she would go to erm... the fields... and erm... she would go into sheep fields and cow fields and she would kill three sheep and a cow every night... except for a Sunday night! Every morning farmers would come and they would see this claw mark... on the neck of these... of their sheep and their cows and they were, they were quite worried cos all their sheep and cows were like dying every night! They were quite worried about it. And so they went to report to the, to the police... but and th I mean they didn't believe them, they thought it was just like birds. And erm... and... she kept doing this for ages... and erm... she was, she was sta starting to get worried because people might believe, find out that it was her... and so after she killed a cow, she took out all of i, all it's insides and hid in it and no one ever found her!
[Terence:] Oh dear! Terrible!
[Holly:] And then, she
[Terence:] Ooh!
[Lucy:] Ooh!
[Holly:] she was
[Lucy:] It's horrible isn't it?
[Holly:] And then she hid inside this cow!
[Terence:] Mm!
[Holly:] And she killed it!
[Lucy:] ?
[Terence:] Right! I think... we'd
[Lucy:] Ha.
[Terence:] better leave it at that hadn't we? Will you... before you come to me next time
[Holly:] Mhm.
[Terence:] finish down to... number twenty eight?... And learn those spellings? Right? So that's going to be page twenty eight and twenty nine.... Okay, learn your spellings! Now, I'll have to talk to your mums but it may well be... that... I shan't be here in a fortnight's time so we may
[Holly:] Oh!
[Terence:] have to put things back a week.
[Holly:] Okay.
[Terence:] But we'll... we'll think about that... nearer the time. Alright?
[Lucy:] Okay.
[Terence:] Okey-doke And you'll leave your compositions with me and I will look up, and if I can get the marks before then as I probably will... I'll let you have them back. Okay?
[Lucy:] Okay.
[Terence:] Right!... So, one more week to go and then you've got a holiday.
[Lucy:] [sighing] Yes []!
[Terence:] Ha hum!
[Holly:] At last!
[Terence:] Yeah, that's right. Right? Bye bye girls!
[Lucy:] Bye bye! Ballet now.
[Terence:] Cor you got ballet now have you?
[Holly:] Yes we
[Terence:] Hello Adrian! Alright?
[Adrian:] Yes thanks.
[Terence:] So... all set for a break tomorrow?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Thank you. Have I got to give your mummy change this time?
[Adrian:] Er... yeah.
[Terence:] It looks like it
[Adrian:] Oh yeah.
[Terence:] doesn't it?
[Adrian:] I'll go and get some.
[Terence:] I know, right. That's alright.... That's fine.... Erm... right! What book are we on? Four A.
[Adrian:] It's alright, this is erm, yours.
[Terence:] Yeah, I know I was looking for the erm... oops! Now... right! So how have we got on with that?
[Adrian:] Er ah, I did some at home but we haven't done any booklet work this week.
[Terence:] You haven't done any booklet work? Okay.
[Adrian:] Because we've been doing Pythagoras theorem.
[Terence:] Oh have you?
[Adrian:] Yeah. I'll just show you what we've been doing.
[Terence:] Yeah. Show us what you've been doing. You understand it?
[Adrian:] Yeah... well sort of! [LAUGHTER]... We're erm... that's the booklet I'm on at the moment.
[Terence:] What's this one?... I haven't seen this one. Oh!
[Adrian:] It's... it's er
[Terence:] ?
[Adrian:] Yeah. Did that yu, yesterday. Not all that.
[Terence:] Is that from here?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Adrian:] Work from that. And an an the the sheets. And now... I've just started... this. I'm gonna finish the end of C six for homework, and I'm on C six A. And that's what we've been doing, all about it.
[Terence:] Right.
[Adrian:] Okay?
[Terence:] Yeah. So do you wanna finish that now?
[Adrian:] Yeah please.
[Terence:] Right, okay.
[Adrian:] I I knew that erm... I uns, I sa understand some of it but some of it I find a bit hard to understand... like... this bit, it says... be careful, sometimes the unknown side is... is the longest side and sometimes it is not. But I thi, I I can't, I know that you have to take it away.
[Terence:] Yes but... the thing is this... in a right angle triangle
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] the longest side is called what? Cos it
[Adrian:] The hypotenuse.
[Terence:] The hypotenuse, right! So the longer side is always the hypotenuse.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right? Now, what is the formula... for your Pythagoras theorem?
[Adrian:] The sum of the erm I do I don't, I know, my dad's taught me a different one to Miss, she... she taught me that erm... i the, oh hang on! It's back here. I got a new book today so... but... she taught that is was... ha! Erm, if I can find it!... The right angle triangle. The areas and squares on the... two short sides... add together to equal the area on the square of the hypotenuse.
[Terence:] Right! The square on the hypotenuse
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] equals the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] The square on the hypotenuse... equals the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
[Adrian:] Okay.
[Terence:] Alright?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] And the squ hypotenuse is always the longest side. It's the side opposite the right angle.
[Adrian:] Mhm.
[Terence:] So... there's your right angle... that is the hypotenuse and the square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares, that's the su, the area of that square and the area of that square add together the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
[Adrian:] Okay.
[Terence:] Alright? The square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares on the other two sides. So... what they're saying is this... that... the square on that side
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] is thirty six, so what's the length of that side?
[Adrian:] Erm... that must be... nine.
[Terence:] No!
[Adrian:] Sorry! Aha. What then?
[Terence:] The square root of thirty six. What two numbers amount to
[Adrian:] Six.
[Terence:] That's right. So the... that side must be six centimetres
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] The square is six times six which is thirty six. That is four square centimetres.
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] It's four centimetres and the square is sixteen... so, what must be the area of that square?
[Adrian:] Twenty.
[Terence:] Twenty. Right! So you've got to find what number multiplied together makes twenty.
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] So it's going to, the length of that side is going to be the
[Adrian:] So you square the root of twenty. Find the square root of twenty... don't you?
[Terence:] You find the square root of twenty. That's right. And how do you find the square root of twenty?
[Adrian:] Just... use that.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... You'll use that yes!
[Adrian:] Mm mm.
[Terence:] Aren't you lucky?
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] Because I... we never had sa we never had erm... calculators.
[Adrian:] Wha what did you have to do then?
[Terence:] So you had to find the square root of by... ar... either... arithmetic... by
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] doing in an arithmetic way or you had to use a sca, a log table. You had to use log tables. You had to use this sort of thing... like find it... up in a mess hasn't it? Erm... I had to go to a table like that... which said square roots... and I had to look up... twenty
[Adrian:] It's got on the back actually. Back of this book.
[Terence:] Square roots... twe
[Adrian:] Oh yeah.
[Terence:] square root is twenty... and it's four point four seven two one.
[Adrian:] Yeah, square root.
[Terence:] That's right. But, as you say you can use this
[Adrian:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Which one do you push now?
[Adrian:] That one.
[Terence:] That's right. Four point four seven two.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] So, you know, that's... well the way you do it. So th that's how you find that. So now when you got these... three here
[Adrian:] I've done these.
[Terence:] You've done those have you?
[Adrian:] Yeah, look. Here are.
[Terence:] Well let's see that you got them right shall we?
[Adrian:] Six five A.
[Terence:] So, this one... you've got twenty five... equals... nine... plus some number. Right?
[Adrian:] Mhm.
[Terence:] So, that is going to be... sixteen isn't it?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] No it isn't.
[Adrian:] Yes it is!
[Terence:] Yes it is, sixteen. So, what's that gonna be?
[Adrian:] Sixteen to erm, square root of sixteen
[Terence:] Sixteen
[Adrian:] is four.
[Terence:] Four. So that's gonna be four. So, C five A, have you got four?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Yes you have. Right. Now, B... again, that... the square root of that... is going to equal the square root of that... plus the square root of that. So you've got sixteen
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] Or rather, sixty four... e... eighty one... equals... sixty four... plus some number. So, sixty four from eighty one
[Adrian:] Gives you... six which is erm, seventeen so it's
[Terence:] Gives you
[Adrian:] er seventeen.
[Terence:] Gives you seventeen. So now, for the answer to that one
[Adrian:] The square root of seventeen.
[Terence:] you want the square root of seventeen... which is four point one two. Right!
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] So C... again, you've got eleven elevens, what are eleven elevens?
[Adrian:] Er... a hundred and twenty one.
[Terence:] A hundred and twenty one... equals thirty six, plus some number.
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] So what is a hundred and twenty one less thirty six?
[Adrian:] Erm... er... is it... six erm... erm si
[Terence:] Eighty five.
[Adrian:] eighty five, sorry.
[Terence:] Have you got eighty five? The square root of eighty five? Yes, you have! Er, the square root of eighty five, that sounds reasonable so I would assume that's right. D... you've got sixty four... equals
[Adrian:] Mhm.
[Terence:] twenty five plus some number, so what's that? Thirty nine?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] The square root of thirty nine which is... obviously reasonable so that's alright. Right! So how's
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] C six? And you can't do C six?
[Adrian:] So that, those are alright?
[Terence:] Yes, you can mar, well yes you can do.
[Adrian:] They're wrong, aren't they? I'll mark them right.
[Terence:] Why don't you tick it neatly?
[Adrian:] I do!
[Terence:] As I've said before! You don't.
[Adrian:] Okay then.
[Terence:] No, it's alright! Leave
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] it now but erm
[Adrian:] Oh that's alright?
[Terence:] that's, you know, you should erm... Okay! So you're going to do C six. I will do them while you do them.
[Adrian:] Okay.
[Terence:] Cos I
[Adrian:] Is that the hypotenuse?... Yes?
[Terence:] Which is the hypotenuse?
[Adrian:] That one?
[Terence:] Which one?
[Adrian:] The opposite one to the right angle.
[Terence:] Right.
[Adrian:] So it's that one.
[Terence:] Right!
[Adrian:] So, so it must be... it is... erm can I write it down on here?
[Terence:] I'll tell you what... write it down on paper and then you can copy it into your book when you know you've got it right. How about that?
[Adrian:] Hang on a sec!... Five point three nine.
[Terence:] Right! I'll settle for that.
[Adrian:] Is that right, the way I've done it? By the way, I I did that so I did... area of square along the side.
[Terence:] Well I mean you've got the right answer so erm
[Adrian:] Shall I just write... shall I copy it in?
[Terence:] Yes, what have you done?
[Adrian:] Erm... five... equals twenty five... mm?
[Terence:] Five doesn't equal twenty five.
[Adrian:] Five fives are twenty five!
[Terence:] You haven't got five times, you've got five equals twenty five. Five square equals twenty five!
[Adrian:] That's what I've been doing... I meant... I mean that!
[Terence:] Yahhh But if you write that... look! Five equals twenty five... is not true! Five squared equals twenty five... yes!
[Adrian:] Okay then.
[Terence:] Right?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Be very precise. But you shouldn't ever write five equals twenty five cos it doesn't!
[Adrian:] Okay then.
[Terence:] You mean five squared, you mean five times five equals twenty five... you're looking for five squared, so that's the right thing to write! Alright?
[Adrian:] Okay.... That is the hypotenuse isn't it? That there?
[Terence:] Yes. Mhm.
[Adrian:] C... Do you do ninety nine take twenty five?
[Terence:] Which one are we doing?
[Adrian:] B. Erm... I'm gonna do
[Terence:] What have you got?
[Adrian:] Er
[Terence:] You've got... you've got nine nines are eighty one, nine squared equals eighty, nine squared equals
[Adrian:] Ah so
[Terence:] what?
[Adrian:] Eighty one equals [LAUGHTER] nine []!
[Terence:] Ah pa cha cha cha cha cha Right. Five squared equals twenty five... right... now what have you got to do?
[Adrian:] Nine into ninety... erm eight in... eighty one take... twenty five.
[Terence:] That's right.
[Adrian:] So... [sighing] erm []... that'll be se... fifty five... fifty, fifty six.
[Terence:] Right.
[Adrian:] So then you square root it?
[Terence:] That's right.
[Adrian:] Seven point four eight.
[Terence:] Right.
[Adrian:] Is it a hundred take nine?
[Terence:] That's right.
[Adrian:] Is the last one eight nine four?
[Terence:] Eight hundred and ninety four?
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] What's the square root of eighty?
[Adrian:] Eight point nine four two.
[Terence:] That's better!
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right, eight point nine four. What did you get the other one?
[Adrian:] Nine point eight O.
[Terence:] Right. That's right.... Alright but... just wondering... why you've got this book.
[Adrian:] She gave it to us.
[Terence:] All of you?
[Adrian:] Yeah. It's like, we do a bit of it each night... and it's over two weeks. The last bit we did was... only the small numbers. That... or wi with that.
[Terence:] Oh.
[Adrian:] An an... we're just working through it as a class and that.
[Terence:] Are you?
[Adrian:] Yeah. And we didn't... we didn't do our booklets this week.
[Terence:] Well this, you see... this is the interesting thing because that... [sighing] hum []... What's that in? I've, I've just been dealing with that... in a booklet.
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] If I could erm... only remember which booklet it was.... Erm... That pa that page... or was it? No, perhaps it wasn't a booklet. Perhaps it wasn't a booklet.... I'm just wondering why, cos someone's been dealing with that
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] just this week.... No! I can't, I'll have to find it some other time but er... right yellow book two, let's have a look yellow book two.... No! I'll leave it. Right! Er, so now what... erm
[Adrian:] Do you wanna do some... erm
[Terence:] Have you done that booklet?
[Adrian:] booklet? This bo, I haven't finished it.
[Terence:] Erm you, have you done any on it?
[Adrian:] Yes.
[Terence:] Right, let's mark what you've done.
[Adrian:] That goes with that.
[Terence:] You do this in your school book do you?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right, that's right.... That's right.
[Adrian:] Shall I tick it?
[Terence:] Can do if you want. That's right.
[Adrian:] Is this all right?
[Terence:] Well er yes, A five is on... the answer is on the erm... back cover of your book.
[Adrian:] Is A four alright?
[Terence:] A four's alright, yeah. Now loo, look on the, no no, wait a moment! Look on the back cover of your booklet... inside the back cover.... Right, that's alright.... They're alright.... That's right. Right. Right.... Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
[Adrian:] Are they all right?
[Terence:] Mhm. Right.
[Adrian:] Shall we co continue with that or do you want
[Terence:] You can do if you want. Is that... but you're doing that at school are you as well?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right okay. So B six. Er, one to mark here.
[Adrian:] Yep. This one.
[Terence:] Well, I think perhaps... what we'll do cos you've missed quite a few of these out so I think what we'll do... erm is to... leave that... what you're doing there for a moment... we'll go through this... mark this... and the one's you haven't done we'll do... so that you've got this one straight. Okay?
[Adrian:] Okay.... There's only one I didn't do. That one.
[Terence:] Oh yes! So there is. Well, well anyway we'll do do that and see... see what the other's like.... You've been caught!... Right! This one... posts are erected at a hundred metre intervals on a motorway, how many posts are there in a distance of four thousand seven hundred kilometres?
[Adrian:] Twenty seven.
[Terence:] No. As I say, you have been caught... in a little trap! Posts are erected
[Adrian:] Forty sev six posts.
[Terence:] posts are erected every hundred metres, right?
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] There's a hundred metres... there's two hundred metres... there's three hundred metres... how many posts in three hundred metres?
[Adrian:] Four. Sorry!
[Terence:] Mm.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right. Because at no metres there's one post... and at the end of a hundred metres you've got... two posts... so you got one post more
[Adrian:] So it must be forty six.
[Terence:] distance.
[Adrian:] That's what I say, forty eight.
[Terence:] Forty eight... right! Got it? Always
[Adrian:] Okay.
[Terence:] be wary of that. And the same thing applies... posts are a hundred metres apart.
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Terence:] If you are at the fifth post... how far have you gone from the start?
[Adrian:] Six hundred metres.
[Terence:] How far have you gone from the start?
[Adrian:] Four hundred.
[Terence:] Right! Fifth post, one, two, three, four, five... the fifth post... you have gone four hundred metres.
[Adrian:] Oh.
[Terence:] So... wherever you get that sort of question... just stop and think
[Adrian:] Okay.
[Terence:] because it's either one more or it's one less. The only... time... that that doesn't apply... is if you are thinking in terms of posts in a fence around a square field or round a circular field.
[Adrian:] Okay.
[Terence:] Because now... after one hundred metres you've got two posts... after two hundred metres you've got three posts, after three hundred metres you got four posts, after four hundred metres you've got five posts... but after you've five hundred metres you've only got five posts cos that one doubles up.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] So you got one, two, three, four, five spaces and you got one, two, three, four, five, posts
[Adrian:] Mhm.
[Terence:] but on a straight line... your
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] spaces are one less than the number of posts. Alright?
[Adrian:] Okay.
[Terence:] So... just remember that. That's why I said you have been caught! That's a ste, one of those little trap questions.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Now this one, four hedges together have a mass of two hundred grams... how many have a mass of two and ha? Which page? Eighty two. Found that quickly didn't you? Er... percentages is it?
[Danielle:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right. E one.... Have you looked at this? Let's have a look at it. B's height is sixty percent of A side. There's B... and it's sixty percent of A... C's height... is a hundred and twenty percent of A's height. There's a hundred percent... so a hundred and twenty it means it's more... than A's height. If C's height was a hundred percent of A's height... it means it was exactly the same. If it's less than a hundred it's smaller... if it's more than a hundred... it's greater. Now the decimal equivalent of hundred and twenty... is one point two... and there you've got nought and nought... a hundred and one... so ninety percent is point nine, eighty percent is point eight... and a hundred and ten percent is one point one, and a hundred and twenty percent is one point two. So what you're doing, in fact... is to... if you've got a hundred and twenty... percent... if you divide that by... of a hundred... in other words, you move your decimal point two places... that's a decimal. So a hundred and twenty percent... as a decimal fraction is one... point two. All you do... is to... move that decimal point two places. Alright? So... to calculate a hundred and twenty percent of amount... to calculate a hundred and twenty percent of an amount you multiply... by... one point two. If you wanted to calculate... eighty percent of an amount... you would multiply by point eight. A hundred and twenty percent you are multiplying by the decimal equivalent which is one point two. So write down... decimal equivalent of a hundred and forty percent. That's right. Now calculate a hundred and forty percent... of seven point five... kilogrammes. Have you got a, you've got a calculator haven't you? Haven't got it with you?
[Danielle:] No.
[Terence:] But you've got your own? Scientific one? No?
[Danielle:] No.
[Terence:] You could do with one. Alright? It's one of those things that you could do with really. If you've got a birthday or something coming up and if somebody wants to know what to buy you... that's what you want! You want one of these scientific ones. So, you want a hundred and forty percent of seven point five. Let's have a look. What is it? A hundred and forty percent, so it's one... point four... times... seven point five.... Try it. Use that one. Yes you use your finger. One... point four times
[Danielle:] Oh it's.
[Terence:] Ten point five, that's right. Okay. Ten point five killogrammes. Right! Put it on the, on the er... on that desk which probably will be better. So, alright calculate... a hundred and thirty percent of sixty seven pounds.... That's right,a, what is that?
[Danielle:] Eighty seven point nine.
[Terence:] Yeah, so it's eighty seven pounds... ten isn't it?... That's right. Right, B... a hundred and twenty percent off thirty two metres?
[Danielle:] Oops!
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] No []. Start again. Right, one point two metres... times... thirty two. Yeah? What is it?
[Danielle:] Thirty eight point four.
[Terence:] That's right!... Now, a hundred and eighty percent of seventy four metres?
[Danielle:] One three three eight two.
[Terence:] That's right.... Right! E three A. What are the decimal equivalents of... a hundred and sixty percent? That's right. A hundred and sixty three percent?
[Danielle:] Six six four.
[Terence:] Yeah, point six three. Good! You move that decimal point you see, in two places and it's one point three. A hundred and six percent?
[Danielle:] One point nought six.
[Terence:] That's right! One point nought six. Again,yo you, the figure staying the same, all you do is to move a decimal point two places. So D is
[Danielle:] [whispering] One point three nine [].
[Terence:] One point three nine. Alright. And E?
[Danielle:] [whispering] One point nine [].
[Terence:] One point nine... or one point nine, yes. Right! [reading worksheet] A factory plans to increase it's output by fifty percent next year. So if this stands for this year's output... at a hundred percent... fifty percent of it has to be added on to give next year's []. So there's your hundred percent and you add fifty percent. [reading] So next year's output is... to be a hundred and fifty percent... of this year's []. Because you add fifty percent to the hundred percent... and a hundred plus fifty is... a hundred and fifty. So the output is going to be a hundred and fifty percent of what is was last year. The decimal equivalent of a hundred and fifty percent is one point five O... or one point five. Next year's output is to be one point five times this year's. So you multiply this year's output... by one point five... and it'll give you next year's output. Alright? You add on that fifty percent... or whatever it happens to be... to the hundred percent... which gives you the new figure. You change that into a decimal... that is what you multiply by. So, let's have a look. If something is increased by fifty percent... it is multiplied by one point five. [reading] A new town plans to increase it's population by fifty percent during the next five years. If the present population is eighty three percent... calculate the planned population in five years time []. So what are you gonna multiply that by?
[Danielle:] One point five.
[Terence:] Right! So it's eighty three thousand... and what do you get?
[Danielle:] One two four five O O.
[Terence:] That's right. One hundred and twenty four thousand five hundred.... [reading] Now, calculate the new populations when these populations are increased by fifty percent []? Now, you can give the answer in this form... you needn't write it out in full. So, what you're gonna do is to multiply... sixty four point eight by
[Danielle:] Haven't got anything.
[Terence:] one point five... and that'll give you an answer which you will write down... followed by the word million. Alright? So, sixty four point eight... multiplied by one point five
[Danielle:] Ninety seven point two.
[Terence:] Right! Ninety seven point two. Good! Now this one.
[Danielle:] That's fifty eight point eight.
[Terence:] A fifty eight point eight million.... And C?
[Danielle:] Eighty nine point seven million.
[Terence:] That's right!... Okay. [reading] An airline... is to increase all it's fares by seventeen percent []. Now this erm illustrates the increase. There's your hundred percent... it's got to go up by... one point seven to a hundred and seventeen percent. One hundred and seventeen is one point one seven. So you multiply your hundred by one point one seven and you get one hundred and seventeen.... The new fare is one hundred and seventeen percent of the old fare. The decimal equivalent of a hundred and seventeen percent is one point one seven. Move two decimal... yo decimal points down those two places, alright? So to get the new fare you multiply the old fare by one point one seven. The old fare multiplied by one point one seven gives you the new fare. That represents a seventeen percent increase. So at three, [reading] before the seventeen the percent increase the fare from London to Feraccas was five hundred and fifty pounds... calculate the new fare... after the increase [].
[Danielle:] Six O three point five.
[Terence:] Right! So that's six hundred and forty three pounds... fifty pence
[Danielle:] Fifty.
[Terence:] isn't it?... Right! F four. If you want to increase something by forty five percent... what do you multiply it by?
[Danielle:] Four point five.
[Terence:] One... if you're increasing it by forty five percent... if it was a hundred percent... and you increase it by forty five... hundred percent
[Danielle:] Oh it'll be nought point
[Terence:] No. A hundred percent plus forty five percent will be what?
[Danielle:] A hundred and forty
[Terence:] A hundred and... forty
[Danielle:] five.
[Terence:] five percent. Right? Now what's that of a decimal equivalent?
[Danielle:] One point four five.
[Terence:] Right! Alright? So, if you want to increase something by forty five percent what do you multiply it by?
[Danielle:] One point... erm
[Terence:] four five. Think in terms of putting a one in front of that... and then moving a decimal point two places and it's one point four five. So okay, F four A is... one point four five. Alright? That's the first, that's your answer to that first question. F four A... was one point four five. Now... it says... No! Just one point four five.
[Danielle:] Oh yeah.
[Terence:] A hundred and forty five percent is one point four five, alright? So now it says increase twenty eighty pounds by forty five percent. So you're gonna multiply the twenty eight by?
[Danielle:] One point four five.
[Terence:] Right!... Forty point six.
[Danielle:] Forty pounds sixty, right. Right!... Right! F five, now all of these... you've got to increase e something by something there so you've got to change each of those percentages... you've got to think of it as added to a hundred... and then the decimal equivalent. So what are you gonna multiply the sixty seven by? One point six two.
[Terence:] One point six two. Right! Good!
[Danielle:] One O eight point five four.
[Terence:] That's right, one O eight point five four... and it is in killogrammes.... That's right.... Right.... Right! So F six... A. If you want to increase something by seven percent... what do you multiply it by?
[Danielle:] Er nought... point seven.
[Terence:] Sorry? Say it again.
[Danielle:] Nought seven, one point nought seven.
[Terence:] Yeah, one point nought seven, that's right! So... your ar answer to A is one point nought seven. Good! So now you increase sixty five pounds by seven percent.
[Danielle:] Sixty nine... point thirty five.
[Terence:] Sixty nine pound thirty five pence. Right! Good! Okay, now F seven's gonna be the same. Increase ninety two pounds by three percent.... That's right.... Nine pound four seventy six. Good!... Right.... That's right.... Good! Right!... [reading] Alfred's salary... is eighty thousand four hundred and twenty pounds and Alberta's is seven thousand a hundred and eighty four... Alfred has a twenty two percent increase... and Alberta a thirty eighty percent increase... who earns more after all this []? So what you've got to do is to put down Alfred's... Alfred... and put his new salary down... and then you have to Alberta and her new salary and see which is... which is the most. So you're going to look for
[Danielle:] [LAUGHTER] Oh, tell me again []!
[Terence:] Alright. So...
[Danielle:] [sigh] Oh [].
[Terence:] so right, eighty four two nought... multiplied by
[Danielle:] Erm
[Terence:] eight... that's right.... So what's that, ten... two seven two forty? Yeah. Put a, put the forty down cos it's forty pence. Right! Yep! That's good! Now, Alberta's.... Right! So, earns more afterwards?
[Danielle:] Alfred.
[Terence:] Right! So Alfred is the answer.... Right! Oh, we're coming to negative numbers. Have we done negative numbers?
[Danielle:] No.
[Terence:] No.... Right. [reading] Positive, negative numbers can be marked on a number line which extends... in both directions. You can do some simple calc calculations by thinking of a number line, for example, two, minus two, plus five... means start at minus two... then go up five... so you'll finish at... three. So minus two, plus five... equals
[Danielle:] Three.
[Terence:] plus three []. Right? [reading] Minus three, minus two means start at minus three... then go down minus two, so minus three and minus two is... minus five []. Alright? Now, before you right them down just tell me what they are and then we can go back and write them down. Here you've got, minus four and plus three.
[Danielle:] That's minus one.
[Terence:] Good! Minus four and plus six?
[Danielle:] Two.
[Terence:] Plus two, right. Yes, two, yeah okay. So write them down cos yo you obviously can do those alright.
[Danielle:] It's plus two minus... one
[Terence:] Minus one, yeah.
[Danielle:] Minus
[Terence:] It's two.
[Danielle:] Yeah, two.
[Terence:] Now two minus five?
[Danielle:] Minus three.
[Terence:] Minus three. Minus one minus three?
[Danielle:] Minus four.
[Terence:] Right! Minus six plus two.
[Danielle:] Minus four.
[Terence:] Right. And three minus eight?
[Danielle:] Minus five.
[Terence:] Right!... The number line method works when you have to add or subtract and ordinary positive number... plus three means go up three, minus three means go down three. But it does not tell you how to do four... plus minus three... or seven minus, minus three, for example but it does not tell you how to do four... plus minus three, or seven minus minus three... where you have to add or subtract a negative number.... Adding a negative number. Think what happens if you start with four... and add on different numbers. Four plus three, as the number you add on goes down... so the answer goes down. Four plus three equals seven... four plus two equals six, four plus one five, four plus nothing equals four, four plus minus one... is three... cos you're coming down here, three two, one, nought, minus one, minus two, minus three, minus four, minus five. So as the numbers that you add on get one less... so the answers get one less. So, four... plus minus one is three, four... plus minus two is two, four plus minus three is one, four plus minus four is nothing, four plus minus five is minus one. What is important... is that you realise that... that number... is minus one... that number is one... plus one if you like but you don't need to say it but if th any, if the sign isn't there it's assumed that it's plus. But that number and that number are two different numbers. They're as different as one is from three. That is a different number from that, that is a different number from that. And that number is minus one. Don't think of it as taking away one... thinking of it, think of it as... minus one, a number. That is minus two... that is minus three... that is minus four, that is minus five. You've done some algebra haven't you? Found out the value of X... well you can X... equals minus five. And that is a value for X, it equals minus five... and minus five is a number. So, try and remember that, that that is a number in it's own right. Now when you start thinking of what to do... you've got plus four and you've got minus three... if you take the smaller digit, now that digit is four, that digit is three... if you take the smaller digit from the larger digit, you take the three from the four you get one and the answer is whatever sign that larger number is. When you've got two numbers that are both, all pluses, four and two is six, four and one is five, four and nothing is four, four and minus one means you got... plus four minus one, is one less than four, it's three. You've got four plus numbers, you got two minus numbers... which leaves you with two plus numbers. Let's go on and see whether you can pick it up. [reading] Write down the next two lines of a pattern of the bottom of the opposite page []. Notice that four plus minus one... has the same answer as four minus one. Four plus minus two has the same answer as four minus two and so on because the plus and minus gives you a minus. So we've got four... plus minus one is three, four plus minus two is two, four plus minus three is one, four plus minus four is nought, four plus minus five is minus one... what's going to be the next one? Four plus
[Danielle:] Minus six
[Terence:] Equals?
[Danielle:] makes minus two.
[Terence:] Right! So write that down in your book now safely.... A is A two, write down the next two lines. So you got four plus minus six is minus two, then you'll have four plus... minus seven is gonna be? Minus three. Right! Okay? So... let's go on. [reading] Adding minus N is the same as subtracting N []... adding the minus number... is the same as subtracting it. [reading] So copy and complete these []. So write down A three A. Five plus minus three... equals five minus three... equals?
[Danielle:] Two.
[Terence:] Two. Right! Two plus minus six is the same as two minus six... which is going to be?... You got plus two minus six
[Danielle:] Four.
[Terence:] Mm?
[Danielle:] Four.
[Terence:] You take the smaller digit from the larger digit... so you take the two
[Danielle:] Eight.
[Terence:] from the six and it gives you four but then you give the sign of a larger so it's minus four. Alright? Now this is minus three plus minus four... which is the same as minus three minus four. Now you can, those are both the same sides so you're gonna en add them together... and give it the sign that is common to both.
[Danielle:] Minus six.
[Terence:] Minus?
[Danielle:] Six?
[Terence:] Three and four?
[Danielle:] Seven, sorry!
[Terence:] So, alright? Minus seven, yeah? Happy? Right, so A four, [reading] work these out []. Now if you can do them then just put the answer down.... Six... plus minus three is the same as six... plus and a minus give you a minus, so it's the same as six minus three... which is? What's six minus three?
[Danielle:] Three.
[Terence:] Three! Right! You take the smaller digit from the larger digit, so you take three from six gives you three... you give the sign of the bigger number which is a plus. Now this time... you've got two... minus five.
[Danielle:] Yeah.
[Terence:] You take the two, the smaller digit from the larger digit... but you give the answer the sign of a larger digit. So it's?
[Danielle:] Minus
[Terence:] Minus three! Alright? Yeah? Okay, you got minus one... and a minus four.
[Danielle:] Minus four.
[Terence:] No, you got a minus one... and a minus four... they're both the same signs, cos it's minus one, minus four... they're both the same signs... so you put them together... four and one make?
[Danielle:] Five?
[Terence:] And you've got
[Danielle:] Minus one.
[Terence:] minus, so they're minus five. Let's just have a look at... if we've got... six and four... we can have six plus four... or you can have six minus four... we can have minus six, minus four... or you can have minus six... plus four. Now... that's a plus six and a plus four... what's the answer?
[Danielle:] Ten.
[Terence:] Ten. Nice and straightforward. Both the signs are the same. So you add them together and you give it the same sign. This one... what's the answer to that gonna be? You've got a minus six and a minus four. Both the same signs.
[Danielle:] Ten.
[Terence:] Can't be the same as that. They're both minus. Those are both plus... so we call it plus ten... these are both minus so the answer is?
[Danielle:] Ten.
[Terence:] Minus ten. Alright? If the signs are the same you add them together, you give the ssssa... the sign that they're both the same as. Now, here you've got six minus four... now what's six minus four?
[Danielle:] Two.
[Terence:] So that equals two. Now here you got minus six... plus four... take the smaller from the larger... and give it the sign of a larger.
[Danielle:] Minus two.
[Terence:] Right!... Does that help... a little bit? Let's do another one. Let's do erm... eight plus three... eight minus three... minus eight, minus three, and minus eight plus three. Let's see if we can do those. What's eight and three?
[Danielle:] Eleven.
[Terence:] Right. What's minus eight and minus three?
[Danielle:] Minus nine.
[Terence:] No! Minus eight and minus three? Both the same signs.
[Danielle:] Minus eleven.
[Terence:] Minus eleven. Now this is easy, eight minus three is?
[Danielle:] Five.
[Terence:] Five. But this is a minus eight
[Danielle:] That's five, yes.
[Terence:] plus three, it's minus five. Alright? Tear that out and keep that by your side because that gives you... all the four possibilities. Alright? When the signs are the same... if they're two pluses you add them and it's plus... if they're both minus you add them and it's minus... here you take the smaller from the larger and give it the sign of a larger. Three from eight is five, that's plus five. Three from eight is five, but that is minus, so it's gonna be minus five. Okay? So keep that by your side... and see how we get on. So we've what were we doing? A... B... D! This one here is it? Minus two plus minus five. Which is minus two... minus five.... Minus two... plus the minus gives you a minus, so you got minus two, minus five.
[Danielle:] Er, minus seven.
[Terence:] Minus seven. Right! Now here you've got nought... and a plus minus gives you a minus, so it's nought a minus four?
[Danielle:] Minus three.
[Terence:] Right! Good!... Three... minus three?... Three
[Danielle:] Nought.
[Terence:] minus three.
[Danielle:] Nought.
[Terence:] Nought, right!... Minus five... minus two?
[Danielle:] Minus three. Erm
[Terence:] Minus and a minus.... Same as that one, look. Minus two, minus five. You got that one right. What was that? Minus two and minus five.
[Danielle:] Seven.
[Terence:] Is minus seven. Right? So here you got minus five, minus two which is?
[Danielle:] Minus seven.
[Terence:] Minus seven. Now here you got seven... minus nine? Take the smaller from the larger which will give you? Seven from two, nine is two... and that number is a minus so the answer's going to be a minus, so it's gonna be?
[Danielle:] Minus two.
[Terence:] Minus two. Alright? There we are, are you okay?... Did you get any more?
[Margaret:] No I haven't
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] I've just picked it up
[Terence:] Oh I see, mm...
[Margaret:] Some money in the, something of
[Terence:] Yeah I just saw the headlines with it, I didn't, I haven't actually read it, no, yes I must have a look at that... There has been really, a very sharp frost this morning, the erm, the park is white and the roofs are white his own erm stability don't you really don't you? Retired of course he's no, no longer, mm... I think it must be, you know, he's probably building this wall all over I suppose people object to the wall Do you know, I don't think I've ever seen that before where the robin has gone up onto the seeds
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] they don't often do that
[Margaret:] no
[Terence:] They've been inundated with them I expect
[Margaret:] I've seen another one, the address for it is would you believe?
[Terence:] Is it so? N N W
[Margaret:] gosh... Oh this should be interesting this is from the A A erm travelling abroad you know
[Terence:] Oh yeah
[Margaret:] useful because erm, I'd still love to do another trip abroad you know, go down to France go to perhaps...
[Terence:] What's Molly's telephone number? Is it O, two, is it's
[Margaret:] yes
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Oh this wasn't yesterday
[Margaret:] No
[Terence:] this was the thirty first of January, it was fifty two minutes, two pounds, one, two pounds eighteen pence. [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Well I've been very good I've not been phoning anybody else
[Terence:] Well actually it, it is down this quarter, it is down this quarter, because our erm, our total last, last quarter, the balance brought forward was seventeen pounds fifty five and this time it's six pounds seventy six, so we've reduced the erm the deficit so it is down
[Margaret:] The er
[Terence:] that was I mean, that was, there's a couple you know one to Bridget and one to erm Demelza obviously that we, we phone them up and that's fair enough, you know but, I was just interested in how one [LAUGHTER] and, yeah, well didn't we phone her and hadn't she had all that trouble, she'd had shingles and
[Margaret:] Oh yeah
[Terence:] and she was feeling very depressed wasn't she so that was
[Margaret:] that was it
[Terence:] that was probably what it is
[Margaret:] Yeah and I'd forgotten that I'd spoken to her the other night
[Terence:] yeah... no, no the total of current charges was fifty seven pounds and we pay sixty eight pounds in to pay, mind you that isn't so good when I look at it cos there four lots are going this month, this quarter, still never mind eh?
[Margaret:] Alright if we've done it in this quarter
[Terence:] Well yeah I mean it, it er
[Margaret:] Happened that way
[Terence:] it just happened that way you know the twentieth of November and there's the nineteenth of February
[Margaret:] Yes
[Terence:] so it's...
[Margaret:] nineteenth of February
[Terence:] Yeah, twenty pounds has gone in
[Margaret:] and that's when it went in yes, yes
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] But when is the phone call
[Terence:] the phone calls, er, well the seventeenth of February looks to be the last itemized one
[Margaret:] And where was that to?
[Terence:] That was to Bridget... well no that was only last night before last wasn't it? This
[Margaret:] Might do that then, if we've got the money
[Terence:] this is up to the eighteenth ah, ah, this is up to the eighteenth
[Margaret:] This is the twentieth, yes it was the nineteenth
[Terence:] eighteenth of February
[Margaret:] nineteenth I phoned her
[Terence:] It just didn't get in, right
[Margaret:] another big one as well But that one the other night I don't mind it having been so big, because it was sort of helping my conscience
[Terence:] Yeah, is the, there's a leaflet here about B T you see and they you, you know the erm the O eight nine eight numbers which are these erm
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] any entertainment sort of thing or, or like you ring up best on the thing
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] the charge to call an O eight nine eight number from any phone other than a pay phone is thirty six pence per minute at cheap rate and forty eight per minute at all other times, over half of this money is paid by B T to the business providing the informational service
[Margaret:] Yeah, yeah
[Terence:] so, you know, it's making a profit to all the people that are using that...
[Margaret:] The best will get a profit
[Terence:] Aye that's right Unexpected, strange
[Margaret:] Strange
[Terence:] strange strange
[Margaret:] strange
[Terence:] oh dear
[Margaret:] on your
[Terence:] well that's not surprising
[Margaret:] It's making it difficult to save money [LAUGHTER] [reading] Mars your ruling planet normally endows you with drive, but as Saturn grows nearer your energy level will decrease [] now how about that?
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] Do it to me Capricorn [reading] this is an extremely significant time, a close relationship has undergone a complete transformation in the solar eclipse of the sun, you may feel insecure this week [] I always feel insecure
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] [reading] but only temporary
[Terence:] oh good
[Margaret:] increasing security and money, investment are proving sound, there is no need to worry about my expenditure [] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Oh
[Margaret:] Oh good, shall I go out and have a rave up shall we?
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] [reading] My health, I am feeling strong and looking confident on the outside, so you must try and feel it on the inside [] [LAUGHTER] oh dear... [reading] the planets are on your side this week for love, needless to say
[Terence:] oh
[Margaret:] best on the nineteenth... money, finance has become a little shaky as Saturn the planet of restriction approaches to Venus on the twenty sixth, this is not a time for speculation. Health, living generally, are enjoying good health, however those of you who are born in earlier to re-think your diet [] and the end of September as well I should think [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [reading] If you're thinking of going to France this year you'll be deli, you'll be delighted to hear that we're currently offering a three week inclusive holiday in the South of France for the price of two weeks, ask at your local A A shops for details of this and the free ferry crossing offer []
[Margaret:] Oh...
[Terence:] Oh... so do we want three weeks in France?
[Margaret:] Where to in?
[Terence:] I dunno, I mean it's erm
[Margaret:] We're going to France of course
[Terence:] I know we are then... and if we book. if we book er, any, er, erm, a deal with them through P & O European Ferries, if we book one car and a person on a standard return fare crossing, they'll give you a free five day return to be used on the same route in the autumn... them are the deal with exclusive to the A A so don't just get across once, cruise across twice
[Margaret:] Mm
[Terence:] Hello... right... [LAUGHTER] oh dear... [LAUGHTER] good morning I'm glad to see there's another one as idiotic as mine
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] It's embarrassing isn't it?... That's a beautiful sight isn't it? Oh dear the colours of the trees reflected in the lake, everything is beautiful and the gulls and it's so still... that would be a mega painting wouldn't it? That is beautiful... oh... good morning... Thanks
[Margaret:] Well put it on there
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] show you put away like that going to this erm, what did he say? The erm
[Terence:] Oh yes I think it was
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Margaret:] You know I very carefully picked up my glasses and put them in the case and put it in my [LAUGHTER] in there
[Terence:] Mm, mm... Is this the new marmalade?
[Margaret:] No
[Terence:] No it's... mm... mains water burst which was between Church Road and erm Devon Square
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] [reading] South West engineers were called in to try and to trace the leak in the mains pipe and after identifying it they carried out the repair work on Saturday and Sunday, but while at the scene early on Friday they smelled gas, and the British Gas South West whose workmen has discovered a kerb side leak, they worked throughout the night in there to cut away the damaged pipe repaired to make it safe []
[Margaret:] Strewth
[Terence:] [reading] For three days out going traffic was deserted by Devon Square... and vehicles heading into the town from Penn Inn were filtered into a one lane of the dual carriageway and diverted along Station Road and Lower Queen Street []
[Margaret:] God
[Terence:] So that's what they did at Devon Square, that's why that was all that, that people came up East Street and then had to go down Devon Square and back out
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] you know the road we came out of You know you saw an advert as we turned into Devon Square, building plots for sale...
[Margaret:] Devon Square, oh yes, yes, yes, mm
[Terence:] That's, that doctor's surgery
[Margaret:] Oh is it?
[Terence:] Yeah [reading] numbers twenty five, twenty six of the junction of Torquay Road is for sale with a building plot in one of the gardens, the premises being used for many years as doctor's surgery ancillary accommodation and car parking, the property will be available when the doctors move into the new practice home in joining Cricket Field Road car park []
[Margaret:] Yeah that's what it said, mm
[Terence:] Mm [reading] detailed plans have been approved for a single storey dwelling in the garden on one of the houses condition on the surgery reverting to living accommodation, the houses would have considerable scope for use as offices subject to planning or paramedical use especially where large car parking areas are required, the whole is available at two hundred and fifty thousand pounds, but offers may be considered for number twenty five with the garden and parking area building plots to the agent []
[Margaret:] Oh, the whole of two hundred and fifty thousand
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] I reckon you'd, the building plot itself would of erm, and I've seen them advertised, for about fifty thousand pounds
[Terence:] Yeah that's right, mm...
[Margaret:] You were saying this morning on the end of the news you were talking about the four man
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] thing and they were saying it started already and the Austrians were in the lead at that time
[Terence:] Oh...
[Margaret:] You might get it on erm Ceefax
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] On there you see it does say six o'clock Olympics today the first two runs in the four man bobsleigh, sport on Friday at two twenty five
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] with winter Olympics that have to run in the four man bobsleigh
[Terence:] It just, it just said Olympic three, nine, one, but there's nothing on here at the moment now
[Margaret:] No, well, he, you know, just at the end when they're giving the last news just before nine o'clock
[Terence:] Three nine five
[Margaret:] erm, said that it'd started already, erm whoever was doing the erm, whoever was doing the... sport and that with the bob, he had said he could of dropped in a note to say that erm started already and at that stage, erm
[Terence:] [reading] Oh Mark Tad has lost, a lot of ground to make up for Britain only setting the eighth fastest time and crewman only clocked fifty eight point four nine O to being handicapped by a poor start number of ten []
[Margaret:] Oh they went down at ten?
[Terence:] [reading] set the pace for Austria with the, track record run of fifty seven point seven four... and the second bob is fifteenth []... see I mean they're, they're, they're fifty seven, eight for nine against fifty seven, seven, four, so I mean they're not half a second... then, I mean they were, they were first in the two man and then they dropped six after one run so
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] so I mean it's erm
[Margaret:] Mm
[Terence:] you can make it up obviously We could do, yes, yeah we'll do that
[Margaret:] Better, have a better selection I would think
[Terence:] Okay well I
[Margaret:] I just happen to see the
[Terence:] Yeah the advert for them, well we'll go out there first thing, I mean we'll go out there first and then we can come back and get a card and we should know whether we've got to get one here or not shan't we?
[Margaret:] Yeah, buy sixty varieties of fuchsia cuttings, thirty nine pence each, they're under three pounds fifty
[Terence:] Oh
[Margaret:] they're doing, you know here
[Terence:] Well that might not be a bad idea to get the cuttings now because er that lot will be cheaper than
[Margaret:] I reckon of we'll see it now
[Terence:] Yeah... mm... the frost is going fairly rapidly now, oh I know what I meant to do, I'll go and do that now
[Margaret:] You were going to feed the
[Terence:] Yeah I got the, I've got to put erm seed out as well cos that's gone... Daffodils
[Margaret:] Daffodils
[Terence:] Yeah, cos they're quite tall there aren't they?
[Margaret:] Yeah, it looks as if they've just been sort of put in in a heap
[Terence:] Well I don't understand how they're like that cos I mean there's, this side of the pot hasn't got any and I would of thought I would of put them in
[Margaret:] Spread them out
[Terence:] Yeah, so perhaps they've moved...
[Margaret:] That looks nice
[Terence:] Yes the white's all gone, I mean the, the playing fields
[Margaret:] smart
[Terence:] that are along here were absolutely thick white
[Margaret:] Mm
[Terence:] this morning... but it's all gone except for where in in the shadow
[Margaret:] Yes, yes, yes, yes
[Terence:] you can just see it's left
[Margaret:] the shadow of the trees, yes...
[Terence:] Oh I meant to switch me pump off, no, still I think it'll be alright cos there's water in the erm, in the pond is alright, just won't be able to go through the waterfall
[Margaret:] Well we're going just out here and then we're coming back aren't we?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] I wonder if they might have anything... don't know whether they sell other than the time
[Terence:] No they don't do normally
[Margaret:] but I, I'd like to go and ask there some time whether they did... Oh that's the one for sale which I saw advertised in the paper today
[Terence:] Did you?... Mm... oops...
[Margaret:] There's cows
[Terence:] Mm, one was, I don't know whether they both were, were they?
[Margaret:] Well I would of said so, but
[Terence:] Perhaps they were, mm... looks like it don't it?...
[Margaret:] Are you returning Doreen and today? Because they're saying because their kitchen is in absolute uproar
[Terence:] Oh is it?
[Margaret:] they're going out to eat each day you see
[Terence:] I see
[Margaret:] and erm... I don't think I can, you know want to invite them back to our place here, so I told them I can't... but erm I suppose we could always go out with them, if they were going out you know, if they haven't made any other plans
[Terence:] Well yes we could do that... well he doesn't seem
[Margaret:] A car
[Terence:] to be in a very great hurry
[Margaret:] able to get up any faster [LAUGHTER] perhaps he'll be alright on the flat... I've seen some as well in erm some way, I looked in and this weekend they've got sort of erm vegetables in including one carrot or
[Terence:] yes
[Margaret:] try this weekend ourselves to see what's there
[Terence:] Mind you we've now caught up with some more traffic which is going even more slowly.
[Margaret:] Well he's rushed on now you see, that fellow has... in the pick-up truck I mean, did you see him?
[Terence:] Yes I did
[Margaret:] See the pick-up truck?
[Terence:] Yes he's caught up with two more cars
[Margaret:] Cars, I actually saw those on the side because of that... well never mind it's a nice morning
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] we're not in any desperate hurry...
[Terence:] This one in front has obviously got a fear of going more than forty miles an hour that's for sure oh
[Margaret:] Oh he's pulling in
[Terence:] thank goodness for that... mm...
[Margaret:] probably belongs to the yes it does you see
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] And there's quite a few wasn't there?
[Terence:] Yep...
[Margaret:] Mind, must of re-done those toilets or something cos look they've even got a disabled
[Terence:] Mm so they have, yes... Well I got six trailers and four bush ones
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] yeah, five different plants, two of each
[Margaret:] And that's, that's ten is it? You've got ten
[Terence:] That's ten and I've bought that parsnip, it's only eighty nine, there's three plants there
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] and if there's plant out in the sun for one we can put one in a pot and keep it in the kitchen
[Margaret:] Ha, I've just been looking around things that
[Terence:] So you haven't bought anything?
[Margaret:] I have, I haven't seen anything
[Terence:] Right, okay well then we'll go into market or Tesco's... right
[Margaret:] Yes it's nearly opening time
[Terence:] Yeah no, they've got them in the garden yeah, they've got them in the garden anyway haven't they?...
[Margaret:] Did you say you wanted some pot some, or did you get them?
[Terence:] Well I got a couple and I thought well I'll wait till I go out to Tregole now, they're probably cheaper there than anywhere
[Margaret:] I just happened to see these selection of pots... no I think there these fancy ones more
[Terence:] no they've got ordinary ones here... but I mean these, are a whole lot expensive than they were at W Smith's, yes, erm I just don't believe this price... no I suppose they're three for one fifty nine, but that's the size I got
[Margaret:] That works out at fifty P
[Terence:] What?
[Margaret:] That works out at fifty P
[Terence:] Yeah, well I paid forty... forty nine I think or something like that
[Margaret:] And as you say they'll probably be cheaper at
[Terence:] Cheaper at Tregole, yes right
[Margaret:] Do you want them now if you wanted them?
[Terence:] No I mean I'm alright for the moment, I've got those two
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]...
[speaker009:] Put the potatoes in the bottom
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[speaker009:] Two thirty nine please
[Margaret:] Hello nice to see you
[speaker009:] How you keeping alright?
[Margaret:] Fine, yes, yes, mm a bit of a nip in the air this morning
[speaker009:] Yes it's nice though isn't it? I like it like that
[Terence:] It was very sharp this morning first thing
[speaker009:] It was because when I came up it was minus one in the car, cos I got er, oh thanks, I've got a temperature thing in the car
[Margaret:] Aha
[speaker009:] and I haven't seen that for a while
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] but it's lovely you know when we were coming past the playing fields, it's erm... I didn't
[Terence:] there's ten there
[speaker009:] Thank you...
[Margaret:] Are there some trailers? Oh yes I can see they're trailer
[Terence:] Mm, mm...
[speaker009:] And this as well?
[Margaret:] No, this is mine, I'd better pay for my own [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Four thirty nine please
[Terence:] How much?
[Margaret:] Four
[speaker009:] Four thirty nine please, oh that's not nice is it having to pay for your own
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] I don't think it is either
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Margaret:] We'll have to a nice red erm
[Terence:] Thanks very much
[Margaret:] you know a red flower pot plant for somebody who's got a ruby wedding this weekend, but there's nothing up there, not much at all, Azalea's are sort of all off you know
[speaker009:] Not fancy a Polyanthus they're very pretty and they come in erm a box
[Margaret:] No, yeah I saw those, yes, yes but erm
[speaker009:] you know erm
[Margaret:] put them in one of those and
[speaker009:] yes they look really nice in the red containers
[Margaret:] Mm
[speaker009:] Do you want me to show you what they look like?
[Margaret:] Erm well look, let's get rid of these
[speaker009:] We had this one you see put together and it looked quite nice, it all in reds
[Margaret:] You gonna try and put them in there?
[Terence:] Well I try
[Margaret:] Here's a bag look
[Terence:] Now if I can put them in here, it'll stop these falling over, providing they don't get squashed with them
[speaker009:] let you have that one
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Thanks
[speaker009:] One O six please... thank you
[Terence:] Whoops
[speaker009:] Always doing that
[Terence:] No, me [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] I'll just go and look and see what this looks like
[Terence:] Yeah okay...
[speaker009:] Okay?
[Terence:] Yes I'm waiting, my wife's gone back to be tempted [LAUGHTER]...
[speaker009:] I think she wants your advice
[Terence:] How much is it worth?
[speaker009:] Two ninety nine
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... Right
[Margaret:] Now can you see this, she, she just put that together, now that does look quite nice doesn't it?
[Terence:] Yes that does look nice, yes I think so
[Margaret:] But if we sort of, you know, she said, you know look around and arrange something yourself
[Terence:] Well I think that, I'm not sure the white doesn't set it off
[Margaret:] Yeah, but I want a better white bigger than that one
[Terence:] Oh I see what about a pink?
[Margaret:] That's rather pretty isn't it? That was the one I liked the look of...
[Terence:] And another pink
[Margaret:] There's one there look
[Terence:] Yes or this one?
[Margaret:] or that one, yes
[Terence:] Mm, it's a bit tatty perhaps in places that one, that one's coming out, what do you think?
[Margaret:] Which one? That, that one there?
[Terence:] Yeah, or this one
[Margaret:] I think the other one looks rather pretty
[Terence:] This one? Right
[Margaret:] Is it, is it or is that the one you said that
[Terence:] Well it's one flower that's probably gone, but take that off really
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Margaret:] That's got buds in it there?
[Terence:] Yeah, okay, put that one back there then
[Margaret:] What do you think?
[Terence:] Yes, fine, now you want it in the red one and not the silver one, yes?
[Margaret:] Well I think the red
[Terence:] Yes well I think so, I think so... alright
[Margaret:] That's the erm... some of these
[Terence:] There's not much red there is there? Not much flower there is there in that one, look, or is there?
[Margaret:] No, no, we could do with changing that
[Terence:] Oh
[Margaret:] Let's see if we can get a, see there's a whole lot of buds as an example in that one isn't there?
[Terence:] Yes, that'll do... okay?
[Margaret:] Fifty five each, I don't know how much
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] I think she said two ninety nine...
[Margaret:] And that's ninety nine and four...
[speaker009:] How much each are they?
[Margaret:] Sixty five, so that's two sixty and ninety nine
[Terence:] Yeah, but I think it's two ninety nine for the whole lot
[Margaret:] Oh is it?
[Terence:] Yes look, under the, under the bottom
[Margaret:] Oh yes, yes it says that yes...
[speaker009:] That's your change, thank you...
[Terence:] Erm...
[Margaret:] and erm, at least these look a bit
[Terence:] Oh that's alright...
[speaker009:] These are ten P each and the other's twenty two Are these blood oranges? No No, they're so similar you know, seven forty nine altogether please... thank you... did you get a handle to go with that one?
[Terence:] Did I get a?
[speaker009:] Handle
[Terence:] No, is there a handle?
[speaker009:] Yeah, in the basket in the wicker basket there, there's a handle and it just clips on
[Terence:] Thanks...
[Margaret:] I'll buy a handle
[Terence:] No you can buy, get the handles here separately
[Margaret:] Oh you can get the handles separately...
[speaker009:] Can I just advise you to swap that one, some of the flowers
[Terence:] Yeah, go on
[speaker009:] are going a bit
[Terence:] thanks very much
[speaker009:] Can you swap that one, the flowers are going a bit Oh yes
[Margaret:] I'm just looking at, erm this one it looks so pretty, no not that
[speaker009:] That one? Yeah that's
[Margaret:] what do you think of that one
[Terence:] Yeah that's very nice, yes I like that
[Margaret:] Unusual
[speaker009:] That's a nice one
[Terence:] Yes that is a nice one
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[speaker009:] You see all the buds coming out
[Margaret:] Oh yes, yes mm, mm
[speaker009:] alright?
[Margaret:] I'm wondering now, looking at it, if that erm is a bit tall for the rest of them
[speaker009:] Yes
[Margaret:] Do you know what I mean?
[speaker009:] It does look a bit tall, you're quite right, erm... that one's quite a low one, what about that one?
[Margaret:] Yes I thinking of the red
[Terence:] Thinking of the red really
[speaker009:] Deeper red?
[Terence:] Yes
[speaker009:] Here you go, what about that one?
[Margaret:] Oh that's, yes
[speaker009:] What about that one? That's got nice yeah that's a nice one
[Margaret:] Yeah, okay
[Terence:] Yeah, okay, right, yeah
[speaker009:] Yeah?
[Margaret:] Oh that's nice of you, thank you very much
[speaker009:] You're welcome
[Terence:] I've got a handle here, I've got a handle
[speaker009:] Oh you have
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[speaker009:] Bye...
[Margaret:] That looks nice erm, all we have to do now is go and erm get a card... and take the price, oh the prices must be on these
[Terence:] Yeah they're on there, take that off
[Margaret:] On that, mm, mm
[Terence:] Yes...
[Margaret:] Does he want to play? [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Here have a sticker for these today... that's two ninety nine then please
[Margaret:] Thanks
[Terence:] No I've got, do you want to change another note?
[Margaret:] No I don't, I think I can, you witness that I paid for this won't you?
[speaker009:] Oh yes
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] most definitely, I don't think it's gonna go in there, oh it might do, just to protect it a wee bit, you know...
[Terence:] Lovely, thank you very much, many thanks indeed
[speaker009:] You're welcome... and a penny change
[Margaret:] Thank you very much
[speaker009:] Thank you bye now
[Terence:] Alright? Bye... Oh that's very nice of you, thank you very much indeed, many thanks.
[speaker009:] Run out of arms [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Yes, that's right [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Well that was good, that's very attractive for three pounds isn't it?
[Terence:] Yes I think so...
[Margaret:] Put this in the back in the
[Terence:] Box
[Margaret:] couldn't we?
[Terence:] Yeah...
[Margaret:] Yes that was a nice, good job I mentioned it to her wasn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] I mean we wouldn't of known, I never saw that erm, you know diamond thing with, four, I mean even then I when we bought them I was thinking four sixty fives, that'll be two sixty and erm three sixty, so you save a bit really don't you?
[Terence:] Oh yes
[Margaret:] Now we'll go down and try and get a card will we?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] And what else was it?...
[Terence:] I've got to go to Muriel
[Margaret:] Oh that's right... plenty of time to get out
[Terence:] Well he's so badly parked you see, he's got to wait for both traffics to go whereas I could go easily
[Margaret:] Yeah... Now where shall we look for a ruby wedding card? You would generally go for that one in the market wouldn't you?
[Terence:] Well no I don't know that I would, I would probably go to erm the one, you know, by the egg basket
[Margaret:] Mm, funnily enough I don't like it in there... well I suppose I might get something in they have some quite nice ones as well don't they?
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] Tim was quite taken with that big card [LAUGHTER] that he had for his birthday
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] There now, two well it's the only way the well somebody else is coming, join onto us, but er... learner as well, why most of them seem to be learners don't they?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] You hardly ever see a motor cyclist... these days... you know unless he's got an L plate up... of course you can't get passed because of the erm
[Terence:] Mind you the van's a long way behind him anyway
[Margaret:] Now he is, isn't it?... Now what are we going to do erm?
[Terence:] Well I think what I'll do, if I go round by the market I can drop you there by the multi-storey car park and you can then just walk through to Baston's can't you?
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] And I'll go down to the church and park by the church, how about that? And then you can walk back down is that alright?
[Margaret:] Oh that way, yes
[Terence:] That's an ambulance would you believe
[Margaret:] Ooh... help anyway, one less, there's a car sort of in front of the ambulance kind of thing
[Terence:] Yes I think that must of come out in the roundabout there, it wasn't in front before, erm, so I'll do that yes, I'll drop you off
[Margaret:] Yeah and I
[Terence:] and you can just walk through to Baston's, whatever and I'll go to Muriel
[Margaret:] Baston's or erm
[Terence:] Oh whatever you want
[Margaret:] go up to the shops by the egg basket if need be
[Terence:] So I'll see you back at the church... I mean if I can just park down by Devon Square I will, but otherwise I'll park
[Margaret:] Yeah, right
[Terence:] behind the church...
[Margaret:] Perhaps the ambulance has got somebody really ill in there or something...
[Terence:] I wouldn't of thought so, I would of thought it was more or less the van than anything else...
[Margaret:] It's a ruby wedding it is, isn't it?
[Terence:] Mm, mm...
[Margaret:] Just sugar and eggs in there, and the card... why did you come back for?
[Terence:] Eh?
[Margaret:] Why did you come back for?
[Terence:] Well I, I turned round and backed in so that you could see me here
[Margaret:] Oh... The sugar was only fifty nine in the market as I came past at Charlie's you know, I thought well I'll get some of that and I got those jumbo eggs there, only a pound a dozen big ones, you know... You done?
[Terence:] Well I'm looking for my glasses really
[Margaret:] Oh I see, they're probably under the paper, yeah
[Terence:] Wonders will never cease
[Margaret:] Pardon?
[Terence:] I say wonders will never cease... I have just written a receipt for Mrs and I have put it in her envelope and I have written my name in, in on, I've put from and put my name and crossed out caretaker and put treasurer and I have put underneath we do not have a caretaker... so we will see what happens... How did, how is it that they got to go back with them? How's that?
[Margaret:] Oh well her father decided that erm his wife put them in there again... erm, his wife hasn't realized how much it would be looking after er...
[Terence:] Oh he's taken something else has he? Do you know the pots there, the two that I bought were forty seven out at Havercom, they were seventeen out at Traygo
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] so I got four more, had a look round thought I saw it, but Traygo was heaving... I tried to park by the erm garden centre, but to not only were there people all parked there, there was a great articulated lorry delivering stuff, so you went in and you couldn't even then get out, go and park further up
[Margaret:] Still you going and pick up your own
[Terence:] well I parked I parked sort of out in the car park and then got a tr a trolley and wheeled it rather than have to try and get back into that lot.
[Margaret:] What else did you get?
[Terence:] Flower pots and compost that's all... oh let's have a drink of water...
[Margaret:] Phone call from somebody who wanted to book the hall, erm children's party, and erm this person kept on saying are you the man that does the, that sort of lets out the hall I am Mrs who's sort of the secretary and books, does the booking for the hall, he couldn't get that, anyway it occurred to me afterwards it must of been the grandmother of that girl that bought the erm, cos he kept on talking a Michelle and [LAUGHTER] that's the girl that bought our suite and I reckon it's her child's birthday party, she said erm... you know my, you know my son-in-law, I said do I? Yeah, Frank, Frank... and of course and then afterwards I realized that that was Michelle
[Terence:] That's right, yeah... oh did she? I always times, the thing I forgotten to think about was that lock, I really ought to do that
[Margaret:] Anyway, erm... she said will you tell I said you know, will you bring your own things? Meaning you know paper plates and what not and she said oh last time sister Joyce would even let me use the kitchen, I said you can use the kitchen, I just wondered erm, you know, so anyway
[Terence:] Well I brought one of those up and put them on the window sill
[Margaret:] Yeah I saw that, what was that one with the three leaves and that
[Terence:] Yeah, they were root bound, those three... All you have to spend is the money...
[Margaret:] They went to Merrivale today, she and Chadam, I knew they both had today off, she said it was gorgeous there
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] but as you say I, I can never have a real conversation with her like I can natter
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] into anything I do
[Terence:] Yeah... If you could hear what she say it'd make a difference I expect... I'd of gone for another vowel there, it you'd gone for E it of been
[Margaret:] Got three
[Terence:] Yeah, but you have an E you would of been much better off wouldn't you? oh no, that's right... or an I would of helped... coach
[Margaret:] Coach
[Terence:] that's only five, paunch...
[Margaret:] J A Z if we got another Z, can only have the one, J A R...
[Terence:] Dozed... can't you have dozed? Yeah So if I do some potatoes
[Margaret:] Yes, thank you
[Terence:] mm, yeah
[Margaret:] I just put them up if you bring up the erm... thingamy
[Terence:] Do you want the pressure cooker up?
[Margaret:] No
[Terence:] No...
[Margaret:] Erm in there
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] So I switch it on, or er
[Margaret:] Yes
[Terence:] Yes...
[Margaret:] have er just erm
[Terence:] What do you want?
[Margaret:] have the lid of the saucepan here, here we are...
[Terence:] This Busy Lizzy is really coming on isn't it?
[Margaret:] Yes, mm, you re-potting it did it some good
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] cos it's now spreading out
[Terence:] Yes it is isn't it?
[Margaret:] Be awful for erm, you know an ex wife and son, to take the decision to phone in they
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] they're very brave... Can dry them off on that...
[Terence:] I wonder if we've got enough forensic evidence, you know, to erm
[Margaret:] Well I should think there's probably a whole lot more there that we didn't move
[Terence:] Oh, I would of thought so... Hello, what time does erm Gavin go off?
[Christine:] Er not till half past one in the afternoon
[Terence:] Oh
[Christine:] so it's erm the times have all changed now because of going somewhere different, but of course you've gotta go out tonight, we've got to, in fact we've got to go out within the hour, it's Steve's mum's birthday erm so tomorrow you know you can't get think and my brother turned up last night so you just can't, I haven't even packed his case yet.
[Terence:] Where have you got to take him to school?
[Christine:] Yeah, up to right up to the school
[Terence:] Yeah
[Christine:] got nice er double decker bus type thing with a video player on and all that, mind you it should do really cos they're on there for a long time
[Terence:] Yeah
[Christine:] see till Sunday night they're on that bus apart from the crossing
[Terence:] And they don't get there until Sunday ni, no I suppose they won't will they?
[Christine:] No
[Terence:] Cos by then, they won't get to, they won't go to the crossing until about eight I suppose in the evening, it'll be a night crossing won't it?
[Christine:] Yeah, that's right, he's getting excited about it
[Terence:] I should think so too
[Christine:] Yeah...
[Margaret:] I didn't put the other one in
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[Terence:] Oh Chris has got to go out tonight
[Margaret:] Has she?
[Terence:] it's erm Steve's mother's birthday and Gavin's, they've got to get him up about midday, one o'clock or something up the school tomorrow she said I haven't even packed yet. She said he's now beginning to get excited
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] but they don't arrive there until erm Sunday night, so it's a long time on the coach
[Margaret:] Yes, I just wondered if they couldn't sort of do a, a deal, you know to get them by air, the only thing about it is if they got to sort of probably where they would go for erm still gonna take them a couple of hours
[Terence:] Mm, that's right... and they've got all the hassle of the airport, mind you they ought to be able to get a local airport... I don't know who they're going, going with, who the erm... Gavin said, I think Gavin said or somebody said something the, the original company have gone bankrupt
[Margaret:] Oh is that right yeah?
[Terence:] so yeah that might be why they had to erm
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Margaret:] Did you put out those erm
[Terence:] no I haven't put anything out
[Margaret:] You just, you know speaking to Chris then?
[Terence:] Yeah, she was just sort of coming down the stairs yeah it's alright, you know, had a word with her
[Margaret:] Do you know that
[Terence:] This is, you know you just can't begin to believe it can you?...
[Margaret:] You know Shaun, Moyra's husband?
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] Well his sister's erm a social worker as well in Manchester and she was going next week to spend a year in Romania
[Terence:] Is she really?
[Margaret:] and that, that's why their er you know, Shaun, erm, Amelda brought erm Moyra down with the babies, you know she was up there and she could help her down, but Shaun is coming down now wi, this weekend in the car and of course they'll be able to go back in the car, erm there's, there's gonna be a party for erm, of course should warn the girl... Of course that's the awful thing about it isn't it?... took about four of them to do it normally, Paul
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] his new wife and also Melanie, ha... you know what it says on the top there
[Terence:] No, I'm
[Margaret:] it says or something That's filled you up has it?
[Terence:] That's very nice, yes, yes
[Margaret:] Do you want a bit of ice cream or?
[Terence:] Yeah, have ice cream, have that lovely one we had the other day
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[Margaret:] Sometimes you know when you see these programmes like The Bill...
[Terence:] yeah
[Margaret:] always getting themselves
[Terence:] That's very nice, yeah
[Margaret:] The strawberry can be a bit, you know, can really be could be like thaw
[Terence:] Thaw a little bit, right When I went for the paper this morning there was this dog, two dogs actually, but one Jessie cos he or she had got about a six foot long tree trunk in its mouth. I said to its owner oh I said another one as daft as ours [LAUGHTER], she said yes [LAUGHTER] Oh thanks very much, right I'll just go and get the paper
[Margaret:] Go and get the paper then okay
[Terence:] Yep
[Margaret:] okay...
[Terence:] I don't know where, I thought I left my case here, I don't know what I've done with my case that's all, it's probably downstairs... oh... oh I don't know, mm... still not able to find it... I think I'd better put these plants out... mm that's right, oh, mm... that's not there... right, I'd better switch this, the tape off cos there's not much, be much conversation now for a while Good morning
[speaker009:] Not too bad
[Terence:] Not quite so cold this morning is it?
[speaker009:] I shall
[Terence:] no that's right.... Hello
[Mima:] How are you?
[Terence:] Very well and you?
[Mima:] Fine
[Terence:] How's Alistair?
[Mima:] Got the monster
[Terence:] Pardon?
[Mima:] Got the monster
[Terence:] Oh you've got the monster [LAUGHTER]
[Mima:] Two monsters, Alistair's fine
[Terence:] Is he?
[Mima:] How's, how's Margaret?
[Terence:] Oh well she's up and down you know
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] I mean sometimes she's better
[Mima:] Cos weren't you going on holiday when I last saw you?
[Terence:] Yeah that's right we went erm
[Mima:] You were in a dash
[Terence:] Yes that's right we went to erm in the French Pyrenees
[Mima:] Oh lovely
[Terence:] and er it wasn't bad, the snow wasn't very good to start with but it snowed on the Thursday and then we, you know, we skied quite a bit after that, but poor girl she got sciatica on the Wednesday
[Mima:] Oh that's painful
[Terence:] and erm for a week she really hardly left the hotel
[Mima:] Oh
[Terence:] She came out with us for two or three days and sort of sat you know up a bit and saw us, but then the next week she was really no good at all
[Mima:] Yes, oh dear
[Terence:] so that was a shame, but er it got better slowly you know
[Mima:] And are you on your own or, or dog with you?
[Terence:] Yeah I'm dogless, I just walked
[Mima:] Oh
[Terence:] I just walked to get the erm, the pi, to walk to get the paper
[Mima:] Oh yes
[Terence:] it gives me erm, a bit of exercise
[Mima:] Yes I was looking around for your dog
[Terence:] I don't get very much now, no, and how do you like your guard dog?
[Mima:] Very well, he's great he really is, isn't he? He's fluffy and squeaks
[speaker009:] Yes he's dreadful, I think he's slightly frightened of our spaniel
[Terence:] Is he really?
[speaker009:] say he squeaks
[Mima:] He's at
[speaker009:] all the time
[Terence:] Hello
[speaker009:] Max come here, come here, come here
[Mima:] Like I was just saying if we were going to a there's a big bus somewhere near I'd drop him and then it would run him over
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mima:] cos he, he goes on and on
[Terence:] Oh dear
[Mima:] it's just like a squeaky jaw
[speaker009:] It's really annoying, he's not like that at home it's just that Pip I think Pip intimidates him
[Mima:] Pip gives him dirty looks sort I think
[Terence:] How old is he?
[speaker009:] Two
[Terence:] Two
[speaker009:] so he's only little really
[Terence:] Oh, my goodness he needs some exercise doesn't he?
[speaker009:] Oh yeah And he's, he's, the dog
[Terence:] Oh he's obedient isn't he? Self erm
[speaker009:] Come here, come here
[Terence:] Who's a good boy?
[speaker009:] no, there, sorry
[Terence:] No he wants to run thanks very much... oh yes keep you fit
[speaker009:] Mm, oh yes
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] I tell you who I would see and asked after Alistair yesterday and that was Bill
[Mima:] Oh yes
[Terence:] He came to see us
[Mima:] Oh how is he?
[Terence:] Er, he seems very well
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] very busy and
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] still working on his new house and, what they've got in, you know Wokham area
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] and doing a lot of work, but he was erm, he was asking said do you ever hear of Alistair, I said yes, he said oh well give him, remember me to him
[Mima:] I'll do that
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mima:] Yes, yes, yes cos erm, he's a nice chap isn't it?
[Terence:] He was a nice chap yes, oh he was very good, yeah and did you know Ken... no perhaps you didn't know Ken, he was
[Mima:] I don't know the name no
[Terence:] No he was, he was right at the very beginning of the school
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] er and he was one of the kingpins building the swimming pool
[Mima:] Oh yes
[Terence:] which has now been filled in
[Mima:] Oh yes of course
[Terence:] erm
[Mima:] yeah
[Terence:] but er, he died about two, three
[Mima:] Oh
[Terence:] weeks ago and his poor wife was absolutely devastated
[Mima:] Just complete
[Terence:] Oh he'd been ill for about six months I think, but erm
[Mima:] Yes, yes
[Terence:] only sixty two
[Mima:] Oh dear
[Terence:] but you know, but er yeah, you know it sort of goes on doesn't it? [LAUGHTER] Anyway nice to see you
[Mima:] You know I cheery mood at the moment isn't he?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Mima:] Oh he's in a cheery mood
[Terence:] Oh that's good isn't it?
[Mima:] I think he's settled into school
[Terence:] Oh that's great, yes that's great isn't it?
[Mima:] Mm and I just, he kept, you know how teachers go [moan] so I said, I said, when you meet anybody and they say to him how's teaching him he says [moan] I say stop it
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mima:] you're really actually enjoying it, so I say don't do it
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mima:] I think it's a bit better isn't it? I think you get into a habit of some people
[Terence:] We've had erm, he may see at some stage, he might just see my son Christopher
[Mima:] Really?
[Terence:] Yes, a fortnight ago he was appointed chief art advisor for Devon
[Mima:] That's very good isn't it?
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] so erm he's moving, he's moving down in April
[Mima:] Oh you must be thrilled
[Terence:] We are pleased yes, cos they're a lovely family
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] and they're gonna be, they'll be sort of down in this area you know
[Mima:] Yes otherwise you don't see them for
[Terence:] probably the Exeter area, well we go up and stay with them up in you know
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] in Cheshire, but er yeah
[Mima:] It's not the same as really taking part
[speaker009:] it's a long way
[Mima:] is it?
[speaker009:] isn't it?
[Mima:] Oh yes, oh that's lovely
[Terence:] So er, yes, he's, he's, he's
[Mima:] About to get a good job
[Terence:] a little bit frightened I think, you know
[Mima:] Mm, mm
[Terence:] well I, apprehensive is the word really, but he, I think he came down the other, this week just for a day and spent back here and saw one or two people and I think he's happier now
[speaker009:] Mike, [whistling]
[Terence:] he's beginning to get some ideas as to what
[speaker009:] Mike
[Terence:] you know what he'll be able to do and to what contribution he'll be able to make
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] so erm, yeah
[Mima:] Are quite good authorities to work for or, I mean no cash I suppose, but erm got some money
[Terence:] I mean I, well, I mean you know, I suppose it is, erm
[Mima:] Does it have er, where some authorities have a
[Terence:] Tell Alistair because erm, he'll enjoy the joke because, Emelda came down to us you see, she arrived at lunch time, out of the blue to us
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] and said that Christopher was on interview and er if he got through the first part to the second part he would in the afternoon he would give us a ph a ring, erm but he, by ten to two he hadn't phoned so she assumed he was on his way back having
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] not got the second part, anyway, he phoned up about ten to two and said, but, but before that she had said that he had met Mark
[Mima:] Mm
[Terence:] do you know the name?
[Mima:] Yes
[Terence:] So erm, I said to Emelda, oh dear I said if Mark puts two and two together I said there's no way he's going to get the job I said because Mark and I, well just, you know yeah, you see, so we were laughing about this, anyway, Christopher phoned up and said he got through to the second part, he was the only one that was going through to the second part and he phoned up about forty five minutes later to say that he'd erm, he'd got the job
[Mima:] How lovely
[Terence:] and er, then he said I believe you know Mark, so I said yes, so he said well he's standing here at my side, he'd like a word with you, [LAUGHTER] so Mark came onto the phone []
[Mima:] Mm, mm
[Terence:] then and said he said, I, I he said the penny only dropped afterwards, he said
[Mima:] Er fortunately
[Terence:] and I suddenly, I suddenly thought I said your father isn't Terry by any chance? So Christopher said yes, so he said well he said, he said Mark said well we've done a good job this afternoon so I thought that was nice of him
[Mima:] Yes, yes, didn't say cancel everything
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] That's what I [] that's what so tell Alistair cos Alistair will, will remember the fights that we
[Mima:] Yes, so
[Terence:] had with Mark
[Mima:] so, yeah
[Terence:] but he's, he's the chief advisor for the whole of Devon is Mark still, but anyway, yeah, so
[Mima:] Oh they're aren't they?
[Terence:] They are, bye
[Mima:] Give my love to Margaret
[Terence:] I will, bye... Hello, alright?
[speaker009:] Yes
[Terence:] What's this, last, last minute filling up your tuck bag for the No get the paper great journey Packed You are packed? Yeah Gavin wasn't packed last night I was, I was a bit excited so I started mine last night Oh, so you're getting excited? Yeah, very I bet, what time do you go on the ferry? Erm half past one, no we leave on the coach at half past one You leave on the coach at half past one and wh, in the evening we get on the ferry This evening? Yeah Yeah, and then a night ride across France Yeah and then we stop off in, then we, while we're on the coach we stop off in Germany for breakfast Oh yes, yes, I trust you've got your Deutchmarks Yeah...
[speaker009:] Five, that's about right, fine thanks Alex
[Terence:] Bye
[speaker009:] Bye
[Terence:] Hello, thank you, ah I wish I was going with him
[speaker009:] Where?
[Terence:] Alex
[speaker009:] Where's he off to?
[Terence:] Pitsfield can do with a bit of skiing
[speaker009:] Yeah
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Saw Mima
[Margaret:] Oh did you?
[Terence:] Yeah she was just coming out the car by the er you know in the car park by Decor Lake
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] with erm, with the daughter, what's her name?
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] erm the one with the dog [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] er she's just bought obviously she had her dog there and her two dogs and er, so it was nice, had a little natter
[Margaret:] Ah
[Terence:] Said how's Alistair? She said very happy really she said, he's really has settled in and you know sort of and that was nice wasn't it?
[Margaret:] Oh that's good yeah
[Terence:] Yeah the dog's a black sort of long legged labrador
[Margaret:] Oh is it?
[Terence:] Yeah, taller than, a lot taller than Jessie
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] and my goodness me it's got some bounce in it, two years old, yeah and then of course in the paper shop who's waiting for a paper but Alex, so I said oh I said you all packed? He said yes, he said he's getting excited too, but do you know isn't that strange he, he came to get a paper you see for the family
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] now that family, you know, the Mirror, you know it, it, it that sort of thing
[Margaret:] Yeah surprises you
[Terence:] astounds me
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] it really does... So what's the latest on the cricket have you heard any more?
[Margaret:] No I didn't actually, cos the news was you know coming on and I thought I don't know whether there'd be any on there
[Terence:] Well it'd be on Ceefax I'd expect
[Margaret:] Yes, let's see if they're talking about it on this erm...
[Terence:] Just what did you say?
[Margaret:] work up cricket live and exclusive on Sky
[Terence:] It's on three, the, the commentary on three
[Margaret:] Yeah radio
[Terence:] Radio Three
[Margaret:] Yeah... but the pictures and that they are on Sky Television...
[Terence:] Yeah, that's right, nine wickets fifty overs, two, three, five
[Margaret:] Two, three, five
[Terence:] Well I suppose that's not bad, it's over four, it's four and a half
[Margaret:] Against them
[Terence:] four and a half or an over
[Margaret:] Yeah, you need
[Terence:] to make up ninety one
[Margaret:] Oh he didn't get the hundred
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] They were saying the last time I heard them saying anything he was sort of going
[Terence:] Defreites was run out look for one
[Margaret:] Oh gosh
[Terence:] obviously hitting out you see, they were just
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] trying to sort of score the runs and that was it
[Margaret:] trying to get two hundred and fifty I reckon...
[Terence:] Oh well that's not bad I suppose
[Margaret:] Well should be all fit erm Botham does his business I suppose it'll be with, who he bowl with?
[Terence:] Well there's Lewis and Pringle and Reeve and Defreites and Tuftnot, I mean they're all bowlers
[Margaret:] Is Tuffnel, oh Tuf, Tuffnel is a slow bowler isn't he?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] Does Reeve bowl?
[Terence:] I think so yeah
[Margaret:] Lewis does of course and Pringle does
[Terence:] That's right, and Hick can you see if need be and Botham can I mean let, it's a good all round side really
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] Oh well... right well I've got some porridge on I'm gonna have that now, we can go out...
[Margaret:] I should think Alex has become a sort of completely different boy, of when you think how, of when he first had him over there, you see he's accumulated erm confidence
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] didn't he?...
[Terence:] Mind you it seemed that they had a test at school last week and he wasn't terribly happy with it, he said he couldn't understand it, he tried to explain to me what it was, but erm, it's not, not easy, but Ga Gavin said erm, he said they'd had a test and he said it took him time to get into it but once he got into it, you know, he did alright in it, I think he said how many he got, he didn't seem to do too badly, but he said Alex didn't really do anything and what he did do he thought was wrong so he didn't hand it in, he said and in actual fact what he had done was right, so I don't know, I told, I told Alex to go and see, you know, and ask about it and sort of erm, apparently he did do that so at least he'll know, but erm, it's strange really because normally Alex
[Margaret:] So much better
[Terence:] copes very well, you know
[Margaret:] And yet that other time, you know, when he came to you
[Terence:] That's right, yes and, and Gavin of course, yeah
[Margaret:] because he couldn't do it and that Gavin had done it yeah it's amazing innit, yeah
[Terence:] that's right, yeah, mm, yes Gavin really has, yes he's one that's come on tremendously Well I think that you know, this, this that the ground they're obviously looking at
[Margaret:] Yes, and also the car and the railway being close at hand
[Terence:] Yeah... Gosh didn't know, I hadn't heard that
[Margaret:] What's that?
[Terence:] [reading] One of Stephanie close colleagues has been under gun guard, police guard for a week following death threats on the alleged kidnapper, as the net closed on him he phoned estate agent Jane the girl who helped prepare the second artist impression, Jane had met him face to face when he called at the office in Great Bar Birmingham days before the kidnap to collect details on several houses for sale, her blood ran cold when she picked up the phone on Wednesday February the twelfth to hear his voice again
[Margaret:] Gosh
[Terence:] he told her that even if he was caught he had now enough money to get her, police monitoring calls to the Shipway's office traced the call within seconds to a phone box at the service station on the A one at Groinby near Gran Grantham Lan, Lincolnshire, police cars arrived at the call box only minutes after the kidnapper had left
[Margaret:] Gosh
[Terence:] part of the telephone box used to make the threats was dismantled and taken away for forensic examinations []
[Margaret:] Oh dear...
[Terence:] Mm, seen this job share police girl to boost
[Margaret:] Yeah oh yes
[Terence:] on crime reminds me that Bob told me only he doesn't, he doesn't know how much Bridget knows, so we mustn't say anything to her, but he said that there is some possibility that she may get erm, I think April time she may be made what's called Court Officer
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] in which case she'll be a nine to five on her sort of on a Monday to Friday basis but
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] she'll be sort of liaise between the police, the court and the erm prosecuting service
[Margaret:] They should know everything there was there to know
[Terence:] and do you know she'd be good at that I think
[Margaret:] Yes
[Terence:] so there's a possibility of that apparently
[Margaret:] Yeah, oh well we I knew that you were talking to him about something
[Terence:] Forgotten all about that just sort of it triggers
[Margaret:] and I thought you know to myself well, well all secret
[Terence:] triggered the mind
[Margaret:] things I wasn't supposed to know
[Terence:] No, no it wasn't that at all it was just that it completely,complete completely went from my mind...
[Margaret:] Well that would be good of course that's better really, and we surely don't want to lose them do we?
[Terence:] Yeah... Gosh [reading] a record seven hundred thousand Brits are expected to head for the slopes this winter with the snow the best in Europe for twenty years []
[Margaret:] Mm, well I suppose when could we fit it in [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Be nice to go back to it wouldn't it?
[Margaret:] Yeah, still we can't have three holidays in a year can we?
[Terence:] Why not?
[Margaret:] Sorry?
[Terence:] Why not?
[Margaret:] Can't afford it...
[Terence:] Well how's the time, half past nine, do you want to go Tesco before you go to erm
[Margaret:] Yes
[Terence:] church? I'd better go and get changed...
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear, I don't know who writes this, erm bit of the er you know erm... oh it must be the sellatory yes, mm, mm, he's writing about erm, erm [reading] did you in every long time see, see such an impression of dodgy back acting, poor old William Roche who plays Ken Barlow in Coronation Street has been moaning and groaning and wincing and rising in the most frightful and indeed the most convincing of manners, he has even for the match of the those few to Coronation Street do not know all the facts of course, we are ignorant of the finer points of the time gone by, but why is Deirdre so lasted to Ken I've yet to catch up with Wednesday night's proceedings on my video contraption [LAUGHTER], but the last thing that I heard Deirdre say to Ken as he was recovering on a put-u-up in her front room was, I'm stuck with you till you back on your feet and as far as I'm concerned it can't come soon enough for me, Ken lay there immobile, stunned, a cruel carry on, what's the poor chap done, but then I've missed too much [] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear... Yeah, that's right
[Margaret:] But erm, I suppose it's difficult really... because the sun's not out it feels that much colder
[Terence:] yeah, well they said it would feel cold today
[Margaret:] It's only because the sun's not out I'm
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] quite sure
[Terence:] Yes and in actual fact it's warmer than it was yesterday
[Margaret:] Yeah... I think over there. I thought he was looking at the station as if, to see if a train was in or something
[Terence:] Yes I'm not sure he's gone on the double yellow lines, but still...
[Margaret:] I don't know what to do about this milk if it's still two lots, have we nearly finished the one we're on?
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] I suppose I could get two, yes
[Terence:] Well I mean this has been alright hasn't it?
[Margaret:] Yes, yes I mean what we're having now is alright... erm... see erm Texas has sort of thirty, forty and fifty percent off some items
[Terence:] Is that so?
[Margaret:] as a last sort of erm two days of the sale or something, they have their special offer next week or [LAUGHTER] fifty percent off everything or something... I feel sorry for these places really, that... do you know it's funny I only saw the car immediately in front of this grey one... in there must of been a dip there because there's two cars in front of me
[Terence:] That's it there are
[Margaret:] but I only saw the white one in front of this grey one...
[Terence:] But there are three
[Margaret:] No two in front of the white
[Terence:] Oh two, I see, yeah
[Margaret:] one, I could see the white one but I couldn't see the erm...
[Terence:] Well I don't know whether there's anywhere here
[Margaret:] I think there is, somebody's going in there, are they? Yeah...
[Terence:] You get out, I'll just straighten out when you've gone
[Margaret:] I'm sure there are people who don't sort of bother... with them at all, you know just saw er... a man he dropped he's erm, he dropped his till receipt and he looked as if he had a tremendous amount you know in his basket so I reckon it would of been over, but there was no erm cos you get it stamped... yes so we have er, yes I'd forgotten about those little erm chickens of course, so we can have that roast
[Terence:] Yeah...
[Margaret:] There's Linda, have those for me, oh she's coming
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Margaret:] One ninety two point three...
[Terence:] Yes, you might wonder
[Margaret:] Cor there must be some reason for it of course, perhaps they're not, not erm picking up or... yes I could easily of bought erm a couple bottles of wine to make that
[Terence:] Mm, mm yeah
[Margaret:] up to twenty
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] Didn't have my little er calculator cos I haven't taken it out, but you know, I didn't think any more about it... now we're going to church right away?
[Terence:] Yeah I think so I mean it's
[Margaret:] We're alright, there's nothing there that erm, needs to go into the fridge I think
[Terence:] I mean it's coming up to twenty past
[Margaret:] Oh yes, yes, I I know that, I all I was wondering was
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] whether we needed to go back for anything to go in the fridge or freezer... If I got this page sort of full by the end of the week, people there were picking out their, they were getting tea bags and coffee and biscuits, you know for two pages full, I've got one page full and of course with that I could get erm, packet of the Ferrera Roche
[Terence:] Oh I've come in the wrong way
[Margaret:] Wasn't you, were you going up that way you reckon going up that way?
[Terence:] No I'll go up the next one
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] I wasn't, I was going to go right, I was just not thinking you know, sort of
[Margaret:] Oh this place is all
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Margaret:] Oh I'll get before this thing comes, oh he's pulling in for you
[Terence:] Yeah, he's not pulling in for me, he's pulling in for himself I think actually.
[Margaret:] Well he's pulling in, full stop... and if he can see where he's going, well good on him lad, it's okay left
[Terence:] Mind you I could park it down the road couldn't I?
[Margaret:] Oh yes, there's room
[Terence:] Well still going...
[Margaret:] Bend right, be already to go out
[Terence:] Yep...
[Margaret:] Got a light on here, now, look, that light
[Terence:] Up there? No it's always been there
[Margaret:] Oh has it?
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] Well I'm not going out to buy any now I'm gonna wait till next week so we'll just have to
[Terence:] Yeah that's alright.
[Margaret:] have milk. You've
[Terence:] Alright.
[Margaret:] got some
[Terence:] There is some in the, in the packet isn't there?
[Margaret:] Where?
[Terence:] Well I mean I, I didn't empty the last packet.
[Margaret:] Well
[Terence:] There was still some left in.
[Margaret:] Well it's not here!
[Terence:] Well I haven't thrown a packet away.
[Margaret:] Well unle, unless you come up here and see if you can find it.
[Terence:] I mean if I'd have... if I'd have, if I had come to the last one
[Margaret:] I mean if if you'd told you that dad was coming down which
[Terence:] Well I'm sorry love! I've be
[Margaret:] Well that's alright. It's not fair. I can't see anything there.
[Terence:] Well I can't... but I mean I I certainly didn't erm... haven't thrown one out that's what I mean, you know?
[Margaret:] Well... I suppose it must of been me but I have no idea when or why or where because I generally cut the erm... side bits off.
[Terence:] Well I know you do so that's why I would never have thrown it out.
[Margaret:] Yeah, well I don't know. Anyway, there's none there.
[Terence:] No, doesn't look as though there is does it? Oh!
[Margaret:] If I'd have known I would have brought that this morning [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Okay!
[Margaret:] twenty pound []! No I'm, no I'm not blaming you! I'm just saying I would have
[Terence:] Oh yeah!
[Margaret:] done it!
[Terence:] Yeah, that's right. You would of done. They're not doing bad are they?
[Margaret:] Well no! Doing very well.... I thought there is... but I mean before.
[Terence:] Yep! Yep! or kind of oven... in nine, I can only think of Oakhouse... as a kind of oven but erm... I don't know whether that's it or not. If it is the Hindu Sage begins with an O.
[Margaret:] Oh!
[Terence:] And I don't really... I can't think of one. Who?
[Margaret:] One trying to get in one side and the other one I think that's what it was wasn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah. [phone rings]
[Margaret:] Well wha what did you want say?
[Terence:] Just wanted to speak to you about the skis that was all.
[Margaret:] Oh well.
[speaker009:] Well.
[Margaret:] He'll be wanting to go down there.
[speaker009:] Oh yeah.
[Margaret:] Were you thinking of... going skiing... er... before then?
[Terence:] Well... [LAUGHTER]... shouldn't think so!
[Margaret:] Well I suppose you could go off.... If you hadn't of pulled my... jacket I would of known that you
[Terence:] Right.
[Margaret:] wanted Did you see this erm, Bill then? With somebody with... fingers chopped off?
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Margaret:] [reading] The fingers en route and for the purpose of being chilled [reading+laughing] were placed in a packet of ice lollies! []
[Terence:] That's right! It
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Oh God []!
[Terence:] They, they had to get ice you see
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah [].
[Terence:] to put these things in ice and they hadn't got any of the, of the
[Margaret:] [reading] When the unpleasant severed object [reading+laughing] finally arrived at the hospital a nurse said brightly, normally one would, fingers crossed! []
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... That's right! Th th the final... the final sort of sick joke was the fact that erm... having... having disposed of the fingers to the theatre, the hospital... they'd got this box of ice lollies so they proceeded [LAUGHTER] then to give them to people! Handed them out at the Police Station! Have a ice lolly []! [cough]... Yeah, that was very funny!
[Margaret:] Can you see on the floor there... to the left of the... picnic table.
[Terence:] Yellowish you mean? Or on
[Margaret:] No on the floor. Yeah.
[Terence:] Oh I don't know what that is. It may be an apple core. Maybe an apple cos I put some apples down there cos the black
[Margaret:] Oh could well be.
[Terence:] the blackbirds like those apples.
[Margaret:] Anyway the erm... squirrel came and investigated.
[Terence:] Oh! Cos you see
[Margaret:] Got it into its hand
[Terence:] Oh yeah you see it's probably an apple bit.
[Margaret:] But then he decided he'd go and look for something else.... This way this morning....
[Terence:] Well I always do come this way!
[Margaret:] It's nice.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] I mean we can go down to the, drive out by the lakes.
[Terence:] Well we do! We turn right here
[Margaret:] Oh turn right, of course yes! Oh dear dear dear dear! I was thinking [whispering+laughing]! []!
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... It's really quite a hill up there isn't it
[Margaret:] Yes!
[Terence:] ?
[Margaret:] Yes!
[Terence:] You sort of quite a nice spot for houses really just up the top there. You must get quite a nice
[Margaret:] With a lovely view!
[Terence:] little view, yeah.
[Margaret:] If you'd gone that way.
[Terence:] Well I mean that's, that's certainly true of Doreen's isn't it?
[Margaret:] Yeah. That's right. I mean she said it. I think she said... that there are no erm
[Terence:] No buses are there not?
[Margaret:] buses up there.
[Terence:] Are there not? Oh!
[Margaret:] I think... yeah
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] I you know I'm
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] not absolutely sure. [whispering] [].... We'll do ev, we'll be counting tomorrow so you can see Father
[Terence:] See Father then, that's right. Yes.
[Margaret:] Yes.
[Terence:] He's only just gone that feller. Next to me
[Margaret:] Only just gone?
[Terence:] yeah!
[Margaret:] Still sleeping was he?
[Terence:] Ya, I think so. He's so used probably to a left hand filter going
[Margaret:] Yeah, I suppose it was!
[Terence:] You see?
[Margaret:] Yes!
[Terence:] And the filter didn't but you tha tha tha
[Margaret:] No, but doesn't it always go? I always they're you know.
[Terence:] Well no it doesn't, if there's nothing, if there's nothing coming round... from the other way... it doesn't go.
[Margaret:] There he is there. Is it?
[Terence:] No that's not him no.
[Margaret:] Oh. Oh. But, in fa, I was just gonna say to you well the filter didn't go.
[Terence:] No, well it's... the filter goes when there's traffic coming... across from the other side.
[Margaret:] Just remember to take a few tins of things. I was going to do it this morning and bring... and for the box that they have... the old prayer... I think going up to Yugoslavia... soon
[Terence:] Oh yes!
[Margaret:] for foods and things
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] like that. And I meant... you know, to bring some, I meant to put them out last night. I'd been thinking of... you know things that that... I had that can go....
[Terence:] Oh yes, there are children there.
[Margaret:] ... park on the grass... when you don't have to.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] It seems to me that it doesn't... put a lot of weight on the grass. be the... best thing.
[Terence:] Good morning!
[speaker009:] If you're not in a hurry!
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] I've got a query as well. I'm down to read... on Ash Wednesday
[speaker009:] Yes.
[Terence:] with Grace... but, I'm also down to read at St.Joseph's... and Father tells me... there won't be two masses... on Ash Wednesday.
[speaker009:] We don't usually have a mass here on Ash Wednesday.
[Terence:] You don't do you?
[speaker009:] No. No.
[Terence:] So
[speaker009:] I should forget about it.
[Terence:] Alright.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Only Grace is not here so I can't see her today.
[speaker009:] No, no. Well we never have one on Ash Wednesday.
[Terence:] You don't have one do you?
[speaker009:] Nope!
[Terence:] No, so I think that's probably a mistake and that... so I can, I can go ahead and take the St. Joseph's
[speaker009:] Yes.
[Terence:] one without any worry?
[speaker009:] Yes thank you.
[Margaret:] Hello! Fine thank you. I'm thick, I'm thicker than Henry's dad's.
[Terence:] No erm... no what's his name?
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Sid? What? [LAUGHTER]... Said they don't have a mass on Ash Wednesday there. So he said I should forget it.
[Margaret:] Brian said that?
[Terence:] Brian, yeah. Brian Right.
[Margaret:] Is it that?
[Terence:] Yes that's... yes that's right. Oh is she going or not?
[Margaret:] Oh no they're picking up somebody else there.... There, I said they
[Terence:] Nice little family in front of us wasn't it?
[Margaret:] Yes. This one here, this family here... I saw her come in first of all you see... I... wi with the legs! [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Oh yes!
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]... And the bottom that sort of was really
[Terence:] Well
[Margaret:] quite
[Terence:] as tha er
[Margaret:] revealing!
[Terence:] as they would say in the army... she had legs that went all the way up to her bottom! [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Morning!
[Terence:] Good morning!
[speaker009:] Nice and mild isn't it?
[Terence:] Isn't it nice? [door bell]
[speaker009:] Come in. You don't need to ring the bell.
[Terence:] Oh right. Yeah, sure?
[speaker009:] Terrible! Yeah, don't worry about that!
[Terence:] You sure?
[speaker009:] Alright, let me get them. Here you are, twenty Silk Cut
[Terence:] What's that?
[speaker009:] That's mix. But it's got. Laura! Mummy! Can't be very big. No it's alright....
[Terence:] Well
[speaker009:] Savory white that all she had. Yeah. What bread sauce? Yeah. You want those? Twenty Silk Cut that's what you got. Yeah, well that's right I got them. Hopefully Mick. Alright, then we'll get the till open on that. Five... forty you say? Forty... thirty... each other. Have they?
[Terence:] No.
[speaker009:] Two fifty... two seventy... that's five, six. Thank you very much madam. Have a nice day! I shall! Well er... thank you
[Terence:] Thank you.
[speaker009:] very much. Sixty
[Terence:] Fifty five was it?
[speaker009:] Fifty five, yep! Er... thirty... there er... there you go.
[Terence:] Thank you.
[speaker009:] Thank you very much. Try putting that door open Good morning to you sir! How are you? Alright. I mean, I say! The one with the handbags all different colours?
[Terence:] Hello!
[speaker009:] How are you?
[Terence:] Very well. And you?
[speaker009:] Does it bring it back mem memories for the last ten years?
[Terence:] I know! Doesn't it just!
[speaker009:] Yes.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] So it won't be long []?
[speaker009:] No. No.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Morning.
[Terence:] Good morning to you!... Oh! But Doris has just said... doesn't that bring back memories? [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] She was only getting her paper was she?
[Terence:] Yeah. There was a whole lot of paper getting there, getting papers and someone else... but the lady in red actually... was getting groceries as well so of course that takes time. I opened er... the queue builds up.
[Margaret:] Oh yes, that lady? This one here? Is she the one that read?
[Terence:] That's right, yeah. Oh, that's where they live, there! Oh at least they're stopping there.
[Margaret:] Oh yeah, one of the two.
[Terence:] Cos it also brings back memories for me... of er... [LAUGHTER] Mayday celebrations [].
[Margaret:] Yeah.... It's nothing like that
[Terence:] I don't know I I'd... I'm not sure! I'm not sure that it doesn't still go on actually.
[Margaret:] Oh!
[Terence:] I don't know what form it takes mind you but the... Of course, another thing about those new houses... those new hous, I think the ma new road will go just up over here. The new Kings... Kerswell bypass I think cuts... through... up, just above.
[Margaret:] So what!
[Terence:] Well i
[Margaret:] It'll be away from the houses
[Terence:] Well I suppose it is a bit away, yeah.
[Margaret:] They probably run a road so that anybody can get onto it. Make a road from that little sort of estate there and... nobody get onto it.... It's. I wish she would say it. If we ever got confront her wi... with Christopher when she was about. She said, well why do they want to live in Exeter particularly? I said well I'm su... swear I couldn't leave it. Look after the children. So erm... she said oh what do you think? Ever so much more expensive living there.
[Terence:] Oh!
[Margaret:] That's what she said! She said they'd be much better to look for a house in this area but
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] I don't know, it's
[Terence:] Well they make
[Margaret:] I would never ever say though.
[Terence:] No ah, no you,yo we can't!
[Margaret:] No.
[Terence:] No. No. As you know you may find that out in a course of
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] erm... looking around.
[Margaret:] I said she'd just see... telling them as well you know bu... i it be better... it's... [LAUGHTER] it's away fro, away from Newton Abbot []. It does i er, in fact, that really doesn't even enter my mind. Does it yours?
[Terence:] Not really, no. Well I mean I erm... I mean... they've been so awa
[Margaret:] Awa... away
[Terence:] away all this time
[Margaret:] Wherever they are going
[Terence:] then it doesn't make any difference really to us you see.
[Margaret:] Wherever they come will be sort of near but we'd still would never ever go and
[Terence:] That's right.
[Margaret:] like, we'd never go and sort of erm... disturb Richard and Chad do we? And we never go up there unless it's.
[Terence:] No, I I mind you, I don't know whether we ought to perhaps. I don I it's, it's very difficult, you know? They may feel that we don't and they or... i I don't know, it's erm
[Margaret:] Well we sat here with both Richard and Chad. You see they had mm, er Friday off... now... they went off to Merryvale, which is fine! I mean, I've no no... er
[Terence:] Oh no.
[Margaret:] beef about that... but because it was such a lovely day
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] you know the we... you would think, oh well perhaps they'd say to you or would
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] you know, do you wanna come out that way?
[Terence:] This is where the... roundabout's gonna
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] go, here.
[Margaret:] That's what I thought, yeah.
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] Or, you know... something like that but you see they... what they keep thinking is that erm... you know, they don't to be together... you know, on their own... and this is the way I think they think.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Which is really quite right but then, I mean, you can't sort of just... love needs to be sort of spread out a bit doesn't it? But, you know when I say it I'm not... Ken and and Eva are the same, they don't go up there
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] you know willy-nilly And I think Jack and Toni goes in there once a week.
[Terence:] Does she? Yeah.
[Margaret:] I think so. You know
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] erm... or at least she used to when she was in the hospital. She'd go in and sort of erm help her mum have a... bath.... Christmas th they did, get windows on the side,to big windows... she and that was that which... is probably as well we.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Er, often [].
[Margaret:] Except the front ones.
[Terence:] Do you want a coffee?
[Margaret:] Er
[Terence:] Do you want a coffee?
[Margaret:] No, I don't want one just now, I may have one later, not just now cos I'll... just have mineral water again. Just water this time not... erm.... Erm.... Is it... is it boiled?
[Terence:] Mm mm.
[Margaret:] I get used to it. Oh you've got your.... I might go for something.
[Terence:] Here are. Is that the news coming on now?... Well... Woh
[Margaret:] What?
[Terence:] That's right. Is the news coming on now?
[Margaret:] No,tha, yeah it will be.... cos it grows like that.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] What's she been putting them in for?
[Terence:] Well I think they're trying to pin the murder on him. I think... that i i i... I don't, I'd I... I reckon they've got him on the kidnapping charge.
[Margaret:] It sounds to me... with me being... they got him the first the... the their victims.
[Terence:] Oh is that so?
[Margaret:] Well somewhere.
[Terence:] Mm. I think you like playing with that! [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] you know.
[Terence:] What?
[speaker009:] You'll have to him.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... Trouble is, when it's raining... you know, when it's wet, you need to do it every day almost don't you really?
[speaker009:] Yeah. Cos that's the only trouble is with black it never looks er... ca you know... unless it's shining it don't look nice does it?
[Terence:] No.
[speaker009:] Yeah. You alright?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] What time is Lucy coming to you by the way Terry?
[Terence:] What time is?
[speaker009:] Tomorrow... Lucy coming in tomorrow? Do you just have it at the same time?
[Terence:] I don't mind. Whatever! Erm... Joanna's coming in I think at erm... her usual time.
[speaker009:] She is?
[Terence:] But erm I mean, you know, she come in... oh I can't have her in the morning anyway cos we're... we're counting in the morning.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] So we shall be out er, you know... early in the
[speaker009:] Oh well
[Terence:] morning.
[speaker009:] the same time.
[Terence:] Erm
[speaker009:] And if she wants to go off she can er... go and make or... can't she?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] Or unless you want her a bit what ti, Joanne... Joanne comes in at quarter past six does she?
[Terence:] Yeah. I mean she can come in at two if she likes... but erm... bu if she's gonna be out, I mean she can come in at quarter past five.
[speaker009:] Well if she's home... if she's home... I'll get her to pop in at two, if she's not home I'll get her to come in at quarter past five.
[Terence:] Okay.
[speaker009:] Okay?
[Terence:] Yeah. Erm... now that's... th that's the half term week isn't it? Now the following week... Victoria's away
[speaker009:] Yeah cos she's away all, she goes tonight.
[Terence:] That's right. But everyone else is in but I want... to clear... Wednesday and Thursday cos I want... we want to go up to Suffolk.
[speaker009:] Oh that's alright.
[Terence:] Erm
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Midday
[speaker009:] Is that this week?
[Terence:] midday Wednesday, so that
[speaker009:] Yeah, well the
[Terence:] it probably means
[speaker009:] It's their English innit? It don't matter about Gavin and Lucy not
[Terence:] The English will have to be back a week I think.
[speaker009:] Yeah. And it don't matter about Gavin and Lucy not coming in Wednesday night, don't worry. Don't worry.
[Terence:] No, we'll put the English back a week
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] erm... I think and what I'll try and do, I'll try and bring erm, I've got two on the Thursday and I'll try and bring them forward to the Monday, cos Monday's a baker's day isn't it?
[speaker009:] Yes it is actually. Yeah. Yeah, they don't go back till Tuesday do they?
[Terence:] You see, so I could erm
[speaker009:] Yeah, that's right, bring them forward to Monday.
[Terence:] I could change the times on Monday a bit.
[speaker009:] Yeah. Yeah, course you could. Yeah, no problem!
[Terence:] So erm... but I
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] think i, we'll we'll we'll put the English back a week
[speaker009:] Yeah, that's no problem!
[Terence:] and erm... give Gavin and Lucy a miss on that Wednesday.
[speaker009:] Yeah. That's fine!
[Terence:] Because there's a special offer... erm... on erm... there's a, there's a Forte Hotel in Woodbridge in Suffolk... which is a nice hotel... and they've got a special offer for erm... five nights for the price of three!
[speaker009:] Ho That's very good!
[Terence:] And that's erm
[speaker009:] Two nights free
[Terence:] bed
[speaker009:] then!
[Terence:] full English breakfast and, and an evening meal! Erm... so it's worth doing that we I, cos I was gonna go... I was gonna go Thursday and just come back on the Monday but... as it is now we'll go Wednesday and have Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday night, so we'll come back on the Monday. Erm... then, you know we should be back... without any problem by er... quarter past four. If we're not
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] I would give you a ring but erm
[speaker009:] Yeah, don't worry! Don't worry.
[Terence:] And it'll give us a chance to go and see my... aged aunt.
[speaker009:] Mm.
[Terence:] We haven't seen her for about ten, twelve years and er
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] she's the last one of the family that's really... still alive and she's well into her eighties... and erm
[speaker009:] Yes.
[Terence:] I, you know I, I just loathe the thought of leaving it and leaving it until the next thing is you're going up for her funeral you know?
[speaker009:] Yeah well, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[Terence:] And I think her husband will probably die before she will but erm he cos he's older than she is even, but erm and he's not very well, hasn't been for a long time.
[speaker009:] Mm.
[Terence:] So we'll go up there. And there's other friends up there we haven't seen so
[speaker009:] And it's a break innit?
[Terence:] Dozen... dozen years or so. We haven't been up there since seventy eight you see when my mother moved down here!
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] That's the last time we've been to Suffolk.
[speaker009:] Yeah. And it's
[Terence:] So erm
[speaker009:] a break as well. Innit?
[Terence:] It's a long time. We were gonna go this we, coming weekend actually erm an, because that would have been easier to put everybo, move everybody this week... but [LAUGHTER] are coming, is coming next weekend []!
[speaker009:] Ah!
[Terence:] And
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] And so erm... we didn't wanna put them off and I like to be here because erm... Bob likes to go on the Moor as well, so we shall go out on the Moor with the dog a couple of times
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] you know.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] And that'll be nice! So erm
[speaker009:] Yeah. Oh that's alright then love!
[Terence:] Alright?
[speaker009:] Yep! That's okay. Well anyway, Lucy tomorrow two o'clock if she's out, she'll come in quarter past five... and then erm that's it until... the Monday after.
[Terence:] No! They're coming in on the Wednesday aren't they?
[speaker009:] Oh no that's right!
[Terence:] Lucy will come in on the Wednesday.
[speaker009:] Lucy will come in on the Wednesday. Yeah!
[Terence:] Lucy will come in on the
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Wednesday.
[speaker009:] Course she will!
[Terence:] Erm
[speaker009:] And then the Monday after, and then then it's the Monday after that. Yeah, it's okay.
[Terence:] Alright?
[speaker009:] Yep! I've got it. I've got it.
[Terence:] And I'm, and the following Monday. Yes.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Yes.
[speaker009:] Yeah. Right let's go!
[Terence:] Okay. They reckon the driver of that car fell asleep!
[Margaret:] Gosh!
[Terence:] Because apparently there was no brake marks on the road at all! Just swerved off into the erm
[Margaret:] Probably
[Terence:] hard shoulder.
[Margaret:] safely. Yo mean you know cos of
[Terence:] Yeah that's right.
[Margaret:] Been a nasty accident happening to us.
[Terence:] Shall I ring them up?
[Margaret:] No.... He needs buttering up.... See it doesn't give addresses... for the hotel. It's, oh yeah call now on... that's what you'll have to ri ing, the central... or see your agent. Perhaps see Tony tomorrow cos presumably you get a bit of commission.
[Terence:] Well could do that couldn't I?... Especially as I went in and he gave me those brochures.
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Terence:] I Think I'd better put the car... in the garage cos I think Steve looks as if he's gonna be... cleaning erm... Gavin's go-cart.... Morning Steve!
[Richard:] Alright?
[Terence:] Yep!
[Richard:] It's mild today innit?
[Terence:] Isn't it mild? Incredible! I mean it's just... it's just a different life isn't it?
[Richard:] Turn the heating up one night thinking it's gonna be cold in the morning, [LAUGHTER] ha []
[Terence:] I know.
[Richard:] and it's er... boiling hot.
[Terence:] Oh I see, so you're making a... the most of his absence are you?
[Richard:] That's right, yeah. Thought I'd get it cleaned up now cos he won't be needing it. Till we start racing again.
[Terence:] When d'you start racing again?
[Richard:] March the eighth.
[Terence:] March the, oh!. Oh!
[Richard:] Yeah, it's not a bad way to start.
[Terence:] Yeah! I suppose he'll be sort of
[Richard:] Yeah I should think so.
[Terence:] on his way to Germany now I
[Richard:] Yeah.
[Terence:] suppose?
[Richard:] I think so, yeah. They were gonna breakfast in Germany so, I don't know whether they stop overnight or what, I
[Terence:] No they don't, they travel.
[Richard:] Do they?
[Terence:] Yep! No,th er er I mean he would of... you see it's about erm... well it's two hundred miles to border... from Calais
[Richard:] Oh.
[Terence:] to erm... where is it? Near Arken... where they cross the border... that's about two hundred miles... and then, you know, by the time they've gone through... er er, they'll sort of be well down into erm... sort of Stuttgart way I think that sort of area probably.
[Richard:] Mm.
[Terence:] And there's service stations on the motorway you see where you can stop for breakfast.
[Richard:] Mm mm.
[Terence:] And then erm... they'll have a couple of hours or an hour break there probably and then erm
[Richard:] Yeah.
[Terence:] they'll journey on to ge er erm... where's he going, Kittsbeile? So gi, they'll probably go down to Munich... and then drop down on the motorway from Munich
[Richard:] Mhm.
[Terence:] erm... the corsair there, the motorway goes through... ah, what's the name of the place? Wurley I think it is
[Richard:] Mhm.
[Terence:] Ergel Er, no... something like that anyway. Erm, and then it's not far from there from Ki to Kittsbeil you know, sort
[Richard:] Mm.
[Terence:] off the track. So erm
[Richard:] Mm. Oh.
[Terence:] Either that or they go through to Salzburg... and then come off the motorway there. I don't know which, well you know i, when it's that sort of area it's, as you say I mean it's... from here it's nine hundred, at least nine hundred miles... you know it's about two hundred and fifty to Dover isn't it?
[Richard:] Aha.
[Terence:] And then you've got about... you know, you got six hundred and, six to seven hundred miles the other side.
[Richard:] Well that camper can cope with it.
[Terence:] I know. You know I I sometimes wonder when you go by plane and you get all the... the hooha at the airport and you, you get fog delay and delay, get delayed here and delayed there... think why on earth you bother you go by train! Go by plane! But... when you go by coach you you realise why you go by plane, you know!
[Richard:] That's right.
[Terence:] Cos we went to Winterlarken... the year before last, was it the year before last? No! I don't know when we went on the coach... to Mannock Farm Camp Site... erm... you know, and it's a long old haul!
[Richard:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Terence:] Yo you know sleep in the, you sort of have a night's sleeping in the coach while it's travelling but...
[Richard:] Yeah but
[Terence:] it's, it's never the same you see. It isn't until ah th, the only time we did have a smashing journey, we went with erm... oh... what's, what's the name of a local firm from Plymouth?
[Richard:] No.
[Terence:] No. Traffens We went with Traffens one year, the first year in fact we went with Traffens... and that was super because... when we got to the other side... sort of, it was then about ten o'clock... he said well if you... if there's enough people want it we will transform your... transform your seats into bunks... and most people wanted... and... you were able to... push the seats... so one, two pairs of seats... one of the seats went up and the other went down... and you had four bunks
[Richard:] My God!
[Terence:] flat... across two seats... two pairs of seats. And you, you know, you used, you used anything as a pillow that you'd got
[Richard:] Aha.
[Terence:] erm... and you were flat. And I had a se, you know, I mean you you were aware that you were in a coach and you'd you'd wake up occasionally and realise you we, but by enlarge I had eight hours sleep!
[Richard:] Oh!
[Terence:] And it was super!
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] And the fact that you lie down you you yo, you spread the weight you see
[Richard:] Yeah, that's right.
[Terence:] it's not all on your bottom... or on
[Richard:] Yeah.
[Terence:] the sle... lower part of your back yo
[Richard:] That's right, right.
[Terence:] and you can turn over one way or you can turn over the other way.
[Richard:] Mm.
[Terence:] And it was really, it was very good! But they haven't done that, you know, the next time we went they hadn't got that sort of seating arrangement. I don't know why because that seems to me to be... a first rate way of travelling, you know!
[Richard:] lay down, yeah!
[Terence:] I think it's super! Anyway i, d'you wanna use your hose I mean I'll put the car in the garage if you do.
[Richard:] Yeah I'll think I'll start washing so I er
[Terence:] Well I suppose I can leave mine out you might do mine as well! [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Cor!... Yes, the morning before last, I mean it was so cold in the morning! There was such a heavy frost!
[Richard:] Oh yeah! Yeah! No, this... mild is very warm, you know.
[Terence:] Very warm.
[Richard:] Strange though.
[Terence:] Bring the bulbs on. [shouting] Bring the bulbs on []. Mm... I like that one up! [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Do you?
[Terence:] Yeah. I expect to go higher... really. It's just on, it's just using its... ha hanging on the existing one.... That isn't Felicity Kendal on the front there is it? Good gracious! She doesn't need a licence I know that. But I mean, you know... yeah, during the war you got one for
[Margaret:] You did it yourself. Nobody was... doing that then.
[Terence:] You swapped your provisional licence automatically for a full licence.... Well and get a couple of days like today these daffs will be out you know!
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] And now co, considering it's still February we've got quite a lot of blossom out in that garden.
[Margaret:] Absolutely! I was looking at it the other day and I was thinking all the bits that are out now.
[Terence:] I mean those snowdrops are
[Margaret:] Still the holly even.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] You know, with the erm
[Terence:] That's it, the berries on. But those snowdrops are really standing up now!
[Margaret:] Yeah!
[Terence:] And the crocuses are out. And this, these other things are out, whatever you call them! The primroses. And the daffs are... just about to... burst out.
[speaker009:] Hi Maggie! How you doing?
[Terence:] Yes, another chip butty. Although, erm... you know, I I can remember the time when I have not been... a, quite enjoyed having bread and butter and chips.
[Margaret:] Yeah..
[Terence:] I see he's still on that go-cart!
[Margaret:] What?
[Terence:] He's still working on the go-cart.
[Margaret:] Really!
[Terence:] Yes, that's a good idea! I think I must have a drink, I've been thirsty as well.
[speaker009:] Poo
[Margaret:] I suppose they have to keep the go-carts... you know
[Terence:] Well it's
[Margaret:] I suppose it's better than
[Terence:] it's an investment of course.
[Margaret:] First time it was to the... did he say whether... Gavin got off alright?
[Terence:] Oh he got off alright? He'll still be on his way of course.
[Margaret:] Yeah. Well it's what, dinner times or evening time?
[Terence:] Evening time. They were hoping to get their skis and parkers sorted out so that they could get off I think tomorrow... but they only got five days skiing... cos they leave again, either Sunday morning or Saturday night.
[Margaret:] That's the trouble with these damn
[Terence:] [cough]
[Margaret:] you know they went and they tried for the erm flying business. You get the extra days skiing in.
[Terence:] Yep! Oh it seems a long way to go just for five days skiing.
[Margaret:] When you go down to again get him to give you that one...
[Terence:] Rain water?
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Yes I will do.
[Margaret:] Whereabouts have they gone? takes so long to get there so I mean.
[Terence:] You could do actually cos I've had some in the bottom... underneath.
[Margaret:] Oh, well this is
[Terence:] Mhm.
[Margaret:] what I said! She'd have to put that in the compost.
[Terence:] What's that?
[Margaret:] Well it's the fat.
[Terence:] Oh put it down here I'll cut it up and give it to the birds.
[Margaret:] Okay. Well I always feed the birds.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Gave them a bit of chicken. Not cooked or anything.
[Terence:] That won't matter. I'll only cut it up smaller that's how they like it. Anything with fat they eat.
[Margaret:] Oh! I'll be glad to sit down again!... You've got the to do it and th... I'll have to be ever so careful I'm we [LAUGHTER] wearing [] a. [LAUGHTER] And so... kept on finding []... bits of the erm... Angora wool... sort of in the.
[Terence:] Oh dear! Did you? [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] I think there's only another one of these down there.
[Terence:] Where's that?
[Margaret:] I shi, think I used it up.
[Terence:] Yeah, I think you have used the o, one other.
[Margaret:] So if I see any more offers... can't seem to find any. Found four erm...
[Terence:] Yep!
[Margaret:] Surprising to see children, they're going back so soon.
[Terence:] Mm mm!
[Margaret:] Did you do the erm... this?
[Terence:] Mm? Yes.
[Margaret:] Quite a saga, you know all of this.... So with my... doo da... it puts out sort of
[Terence:] Tuesday.
[Margaret:] It's Tuesday, yeah. I've got this... you know. It means that when the
[Terence:] When the other side have got when the other have got one off.... Again. That's two nil. That's it.
[Margaret:] But is he?
[Terence:] Yeah... but the top two went through you see.
[Margaret:] Oh I see.
[Terence:] You see?
[Margaret:] Oh yes! I must know how, I've been looking at... at the.
[Terence:] Well that's it! They've scored again! They've erm
[Margaret:] Have they finished?
[Terence:] No, not yet.
[Margaret:] I could do with having someone to take this out.
[Terence:] Right!
[Margaret:] Let's see... and that could go to the compost.
[Terence:] Is this the pairs? He's playing with er... oh no it's not, it's not it's singles.
[Margaret:] Oh does he usually with the chair?
[Terence:] [sighing] Oh yeah [].
[Margaret:] Well this is.
[Terence:] He's now up five four. [LAUGHTER] Ooh ooh ooh ooh []!
[Margaret:] Do you think you could just sweep that up
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] for me, to save me bending down there.
[Terence:] Mm. Ooh ooh! He could now lose it!
[Margaret:] Hey?
[Terence:] [shouting] He could now lose it on the last ball []!
[Margaret:] Okay....
[Terence:] He's missed it! He's only got two and he wanted three! Really! He, ha! So now it's, so he wants one and... Bryant one for two. Ah! Gracious me! Bryant thought he'd lost it then! He should of done really it was
[Margaret:] are they both?
[Terence:] No, I think, oh I don't know he's an exiled Scot.
[Margaret:] Did he have a little cos he's in er... oh no, of course he's wearing the blue of Scotland isn't he?
[Terence:] Well of course they have to wear different colours anyway don't they?
[Margaret:] Mm.... Nice that isn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah. Short innit?
[Margaret:] , Andy Thompson innit?
[Terence:] Yeah. Oh, medium length.
[Margaret:] So
[Terence:] Well Thompson needs
[Margaret:] Bryant
[Terence:] Thompson needs one and Bryant needs two.... And that's Thompson.
[Margaret:] I'm going with David this Saturday.... Worked hard hasn't he? To get back there.
[Terence:] He has worked hard. He only needed two at the last end. Thompson needed three. Erm... but he just had sort of he wasn't so good. Well that's a better ball! If he'd done that in the last erm, he'd have won it.
[Margaret:] And he's come back and sort of go round the back cos that other fellow sort of he came down
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] and then he appeared up the top there.
[Terence:] They come down to see... what the situation really is.
[Margaret:] Please! Come on then! Oh it's gone further though this
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Well presumably they si, they have to throw or they're supposed to throw, or have they not? Cos he just said that should of been enough.
[Terence:] Oh, he's looking worried! Ooh ooh! Ee ee!
[Margaret:] Well that's much better than the other two isn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah, I don't, yeah. Could be two. Yeah we've dropped two more.
[Margaret:] And he's got two more balls.
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Well, is that a problem? He's gonna try and knock
[Terence:] So he's gotta again.
[Margaret:] Yeah. Oh it's going right through!... He's trying to knock David out of course isn't he?
[Terence:] Mm mm. And drop himself in.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Well I should think he's now got wo one red I should think.
[Margaret:] I suppose you could say David had it so often... [LAUGHTER]... that it be nice for him to get it.
[Terence:] I should think David will come out on the forehand and try and knock that... blue ball out. The one that's
[Margaret:] He's only got one there.
[Terence:] Mm. Yes I
[Margaret:] The re
[Terence:] thought he only got one. Interesting to see which way he comes. I think he'll come round this way.... Oh no he's not! He's coming round the... back the other way.... Ooh ooh! I th... probably only red still.... It's still his one.
[Margaret:] Still only got one.... Yes.... Well he's got three... so this is the fourth one from this fellow isn't it?
[Terence:] That's right!
[Margaret:] And Bryant has the last one?... No.
[Terence:] A chalk.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]... So it just needs... David to get through? He can do what he likes
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] with this last ball really.
[Terence:] Well, yeah.
[Margaret:] This red one.
[Terence:] If he gets another red he's won the match. But if he... if he plays it and misses it he could give it to Thompson. And if he... if he doesn't play... it'll be a draw.
[Margaret:] Oh not just, not just one ball he needs to play
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] but two.
[Terence:] He needs two. Thompson didn't play his.... It's all or nothing on this one!
[Margaret:] Oh dear!... So has that fellow won it?
[Terence:] No, it's one all. I it it's one red, so they're now... six all.
[Margaret:] Oh gosh! It doesn't matter then.
[Terence:] Bryant has now got to draw within four inches of the jack otherwise he's out.... He's fired a shot and he's missed! So that's
[Margaret:] It's out.
[Terence:] That's out, yeah it's Thompson.
[Margaret:] Right.
[Terence:] Couldn't have been closer, mind you could it? Two all and six all. Fancy going to the supermarket like that?
[Margaret:] I'll put these on for erm... I bet erm... Bryant was sort of he wasn't feeling he's hard done by and i in fact he, you know went
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] He's always... pleasant.
[Terence:] They look rather nice don't they?...
[Margaret:] great grandfather... a big house
[Terence:] [clears throat]
[Margaret:] before he was married his employer pictures off the wall and gave them to him
[Terence:] Gosh
[Margaret:] as a wedding present
[Terence:] Yeah.... m Makes you wonder how much erm ours is worth, not as much as that obviously but er...
[Margaret:] Cos ours is eighteen something or other isn't it?
[Terence:] Is it? Mm.
[Margaret:] ... Ours looks homemade to me.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... No I don't think it is.... I bet the local shop sold out of helmets.
[Margaret:] Mm?
[Terence:] Bet the local shop sold out of helmets.
[Margaret:] Mm. You couldn't get them actually.
[Terence:] Mm.... and many more wearing them.
[Margaret:] Yes...
[Terence:] Yes she did, yeah, mhm.... Yeah [clears throat]... Yeah alright we'd better go and... put the flowers in because I put a lot of the plants out this mo today....
[Margaret:] taking them indoors though
[Terence:] Yeah I think so.... Fifteen.
[Margaret:] About twenty three she would of said
[Terence:] Twenty three percent.
[Margaret:] herself, yeah.... Anyway erm... what sh when I said to you when you, you said to me last thing... oh yes that's right, and he, anybody that father's spoken to who has sort of had this Walkman on him, which has had umpteen sort of erm batteries and what have you... tapes conversations, now she'll be back again next Friday er to pick it up. That's, that's, that's what it was when you, you know, saying you're coming back next Friday, that's what it was because father said to me what, what, what erm when is coming so I said well I don't know. But er she's coming a and gives him twenty five pounds for what [LAUGHTER] he's done... oh he came in, he came into the kitchen, it's ever so funny, he came into the kitchen [] to tell me about this you see... Anyway he came back in there and I said to him I'm not really enthusiastic about the thought... er thinking that I was involved with this as well so the dear woman turned round [LAUGHTER] and said to me it's only your husband [] [LAUGHTER] so I said well I'd better go back in the kitchen where I know my place.
[Terence:] Said she slapping in her hand. [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] I slapped my hand. [LAUGHTER] No but anyway, that erm... well, well we, well he is going to be [LAUGHTER] twenty five pounds better off. []
[Terence:] I'm not. You'll be twenty five pound better off cos you're gonna g we
[Margaret:] am I getting it?
[Terence:] Yes. Yes beca
[Margaret:] Oh I'm gonna have the twenty five pounds
[Terence:] Cos you get twenty five pound worth of vouchers. [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Oh it's only vouchers is it?... Oh I thought it was money.
[Terence:] Well I thought it was to start with.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] I expect Dixons. [LAUGHTER] Anyway er so they're coming anyway. Well erm I hope that erm you, won't be too long before you're reunited with your husband....
[Terence:] Where is he?
[Margaret:] He's gonna have it at Wendy's, I said to Bridget oh he said no because I've
[Terence:] Wendy's?
[Margaret:] Yeah cos erm he's taking erm erm... David up to Andover which is his next posting
[Terence:] Oh I see.
[Margaret:] and David phone him up and said will you take us up dad. Cheek isn't it really, I mean he could have got the train couldn't he? I gather there's a [LAUGHTER] yeah alright [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Oh!
[Margaret:] all is forgiven. But [LAUGHTER] no... yes...
[Terence:] When's he come back, tomorrow?
[Margaret:] so he'll be, he'll be back later on tonight obviously. Aah you're, and you're on earlies tomorrow?... Oh well... yeah, thank you. What?
[Terence:] I think I'd better take these books back down again I think, oh mind you I can put them up here perhaps. I got one, there was one up here actually.
[Margaret:] Yeah I knew there was you see
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] you know Austria and Switzerland
[Terence:] Mm... Yeah there was one up and one down.
[Margaret:] Erm... what was I going to say?... Oh yes, I know, this... that one is really and truly an office lamp.
[Terence:] I know it is, yes. I realize that.
[Margaret:] Yes. Yeah I mean it, it's perfect really for er well for me cos
[Terence:] Well
[Margaret:] as well
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] erm you know when the light
[Terence:] Well I knew it was but it the fact that it had a nice easy switch in the base... was something that I'd been looking for....
[Margaret:] Well that, that's, you know, too hot I think to have that one on today so m so much milder.... But erm...
[Terence:] Well it certainly is much milder....
[Margaret:] Right. Have you got... the erm... that paper that had that sort of erm
[Terence:] No I've got it in, it's in... oh you've got it there well I had it in there.... It's not there now.... I put it in there...
[Margaret:] I haven't touched it.
[Terence:] cos that's why I put them all together.... Or did I put it in this one? No I didn't.... You must have picked it up....
[Margaret:] What do you mean I must have picked it up?
[Terence:] Well because I put it in that book.
[Margaret:] I would never have taken anything out of that book that you had put in because I wouldn't have known what it was about.... What day was it?
[Terence:] I've got no idea.
[Margaret:] Here are these here...
[Terence:] Right.
[Margaret:] that I've just picked up off the... here.... [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] I like the way I must have taken it out [].
[Terence:] Well I know I put them both there together ready for this morning....
[Margaret:] Perhaps that's what you intended doing and never got around to doing
[Terence:] No I know I did it, I d I, often I
[Margaret:] Well I
[Terence:] often I don't know
[Margaret:] hadn't even seen it.
[Terence:] but I did know that one.
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] It was so cold the other day, you know last time we were in here.
[Margaret:] If it's cold they'll give you a fire.
[Terence:] Mm?
[Margaret:] They'll give you a fire if it's cold the other day when Tony was here with his mum they had a... fan heater
[Terence:] Oh. Well it'll probably be alright, it's not so cold today actually.
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Good morning Muriel.
[Lucy:] they missed it last week but it's supposed to be correct. You know, they counted it but they missed putting it in.
[Terence:] So do we count it, do we put it...?
[Lucy:] It wasn't counted in last week's at all.
[Terence:] It wasn't counted in?
[Lucy:] No, so
[Terence:] So we... put it in as loose collection?
[Lucy:] Yes.
[Terence:] Right.
[Margaret:] Morning Muriel.
[Lucy:] Morning Margaret.
[Margaret:] Alright? You look a bit sleepy.
[Lucy:] Well I had a late night last night my hamster came, kept me up late at night.
[Margaret:] A hamster?
[Lucy:] Yeah, he slept on my bed. Well it was, I was just trying to persuade it back to its normal cage when the, like, everywhere. They like, they gnawing at all the box.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Oh I see []. [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Oh.
[Margaret:] You'll have to give up hamsters won't you, most definitely. Oh you've got two have you?
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Well! Perhaps they have to have their noisy times sometimes.
[Terence:] Nocturnal.
[Margaret:] Nocturnal, yes. nocturnal? I suppose they are....
[Terence:] Put them over here look and that... that's it.
[Margaret:] Cos there was only one collection yesterday wasn't there? Aren't we the lucky ones today. I think we've only had one for ages and ages. [LAUGHTER] Oh we
[Terence:] You want to come you want to come to St Gregory's.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] If there isn't a collection though, an official one, they'll have one of their own for the [LAUGHTER] []
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] I think the Bishop's cutting out the He cut them down, that's right, yes, yes. Quite right. Quite right.
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[Margaret:] Now, what was I going to do?... Oh
[Terence:] The envelopes?
[Margaret:] before the envelopes....
[Terence:] Fancy, you wouldn't believe that they'd miss that would you?
[Margaret:] This got missed out?
[Terence:] This got missed out apparently.... Well they say it's alright, I... I think I shall probably check it.
[Margaret:] Well you'll check it anyway.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Oh, oh we of little faith....
[Terence:] Yes... right.... Indeed....
[Margaret:] Have you broken up erm
[Lucy:] Yes.
[Margaret:] Do you have the whole week off? Oh that's good.
[Lucy:] No we broke up on Thursday.
[Margaret:] Thursday?
[Lucy:] Yeah so
[Margaret:] Oh yes I think erm... Paul broke up on Thursday....
[Lucy:] Think it's those teacher training days.
[Margaret:] Ah that's what it is isn't it? Yes, mm. [LAUGHTER] Just gives you an extra day off doesn't it? Think that's what they organize it for really.......
[Terence:] Do you want another pen?
[Margaret:] I've probably got one in my bag anyway. Well we keep on trying Father... we don't get a lot of encouragement, I mean you're only having one collection on Sunday nowadays.
[Holly:] Do you want two? [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Erm... we went... I went into the hall and saw that fire. Erm, would erm Mr sort of look after it and, you know, cos, would he be responsible for it do you think? Because it's, the school children go in there as well you see and that's a little bit of a worry but, but if they don't use it it'd be alright. But you know I'm just wondering what would happen when erm
[Holly:] You see the, the elderly people on a Sunday morning who go in there and there's some, some rather
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Holly:] disabled people and, and it's very cold in there.
[Terence:] They're too cold. Well,wh you know,wh what happens when the cylinder goes? Do you think he would erm... know what
[Holly:] pay out of the parish I suppose.
[Terence:] Mm? No well I mean I can pay for it, it's just a question of getting it and sort of erm... only we're not often here on a Sunday, if Mr is here, is it
[Holly:] He's not.
[Terence:] He's not.
[Holly:] he goes with Father. Not Father, to erm... er... erm... that place? Ashburton.
[Terence:] Ashburton....
[Holly:] You see there, there was a... er not paying for it, asking about it, the finance committee how very cold it was for the elderly and they sit in there while some get taken home and
[Margaret:] Doris, you're quite elderly aren't you? I'm very elderly, my husband's very elderly, we manage very well.
[Holly:] Well yes but you tell them that will you?
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Holly:] And they'll tell you to go to hell
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Holly:] if you tell them that.
[Margaret:] Well I'm on my way there anyway you see
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Holly:] But no I mean that's not nice to say that because there are cripples
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Holly:] and people who just people
[Margaret:] But some people feel the cold more than others.
[Holly:] who er yeah... and...
[Margaret:] Don't they?
[Holly:] there's very few going in to coffee because of the cold in the
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Holly:] hall, it is a very cold
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Well when we have our meeting
[Terence:] Well it's just a question of really of, of some if someone can, you know, I mean
[Margaret:] Are you going to put a new fire in or something?
[Holly:] No no we've we, we were talking about it actually, what we've done... and erm... of course it's the school children we've gotta think about
[Margaret:] Cos we have our meetings
[Holly:] There's nowhere to put it away is there? It'll slide on th on castors.
[Terence:] It'll slide on ca I mean I moved it into the corner so that erm
[Holly:] Yeah is there anywhere that it can be put away when the children are not there? Or when the children are there.
[Terence:] Well I mean the children, I mean if I go into the school and I, and say to them look there is a fire there but, you know, please will you not use it but it's just a question of whether the children fiddle with it really, that's
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[Holly:] We'll have to think about it this week while they're away, they're on holiday this week.
[Terence:] Yes they are, that's true. But it's also a question of, you know, erm... when it's exhausted
[Holly:] Yeah well we can always arrange that.
[Terence:] Yeah.... But I'll talk to you some time about the heating because I mean the trouble is that no
[Holly:] Well er er the whole thing, the, the hall is, is, is a big worry because they won't insure us because it's dangerous. There's no insurance on that hall... to my knowledge... there's no insurance.
[Terence:] I didn't know that.
[Holly:] Michael said to me, the first thing he said to me when I came here, that's the first I'd do, knock it down he said, it's, it's dangerous it's not. That's what he said, the first thing he said to me when I came here. That's, that's the first job you've gotta do, get that, rid of that.
[Terence:] So there's no point in spending a lot of money on it?
[Holly:] No that's what I say and, and I've written to the insurer to the insurer to tell, ask them what is the situation and we're still waiting an answer.
[Terence:] I see.
[Margaret:] But we, didn't we
[Terence:] I thought, I mean I, the fire people gave it the all clear. Erm and with, and with the erm with those fan heaters in there, there is... as it were, no fire risk from it.
[Holly:] No.... Well fan heaters can be on you know but you can't hear, feel them unless you're next to them I think.
[Terence:] Mm mm.... And the overhead heaters were no use either, I mean that's why we put the fan heaters in cos they were better than the
[Holly:] Well let me wait, I'll tell, I'll sh I'll tell you what the insurers say when they come back, when it comes. I'm waiting for them to answer.
[Terence:] Right.
[Holly:] But it's not insured I can tell you that. I have no erm er policy for it.... And I've, I was, I don't know if it was Michael or somebody else told me that they wouldn't insure it.
[Margaret:] Oh... well we've never known that have we?
[Terence:] No we've never known that, haven't heard that.
[Holly:] Well that's, well there's no
[Margaret:] Cos it was sort of insured when we first took it over.
[Holly:] Yeah, there's no record of an insurance in the, the file.
[Margaret:] Oh I see....
[Holly:] And so I, we have written to them and waiting for an answer.
[Terence:] Right.
[Holly:] So when we, you see there's no good putting anything in there... erm... or doing anything with it... if we're not going to use it... or if it's gotta come down in another year or two.
[Terence:] No.
[Holly:] Mind you when I said it's gotta come down it might be five years before it comes down, but you've gotta think of your outlay first.
[Terence:] Yeah I mean there's no point in re-roofing it for instance.
[Holly:] Oh no. Not as, as far as I know. But we'll see what they say.
[Margaret:] Is the insurance through the diocese Father?
[Holly:] Well it's, it's done... it's a di er no
[Margaret:] No.
[Holly:] it's done privately but it's, the diocese have appointed the insurers.
[Margaret:] I see.
[Holly:] We're done through Peter
[Margaret:] Mhm.
[Holly:] he's the insurance broker and it all works through Norwich Union.
[Margaret:] Mhm.
[Holly:] Erm... and he's got some very good quotes for us
[Margaret:] Yes.
[Holly:] you don't er insure a building according to its size now but according to the number of people who use it. It's far er fairer.
[Terence:] Mm.
[Holly:] I mean you might have a massive building
[Terence:] And hardly anybody using it.
[Holly:] you've gotta pay for it.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Holly:] So it's according to the number of people that use it, go to mass, how much you pay
[Terence:] Mm.
[Holly:] erm on the insurance. And it covers everything but as far as I know, and I'm willing to be corrected
[Terence:] Yeah I don't know.
[Holly:] that, that is not insured.
[Margaret:] No well we don't know, we had thought that it was. Especially after
[Holly:] No as far as
[Margaret:] it was all done up.
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Yes after it was sort of
[Holly:] Well as far as well I know that Michael
[Margaret:] renovated.
[Holly:] Michael said to me, the first thing he said to me, that has to come down.
[Margaret:] How funny, he never ever said anything like that to us. You've not heard that either? told me.
[Holly:] That's the first thing, I know nothing about, no well I know nothing about structure or anything else, you know I mean
[Margaret:] But they had I don't know if you know it had been absolutely dilapidated, the hall, I mean it was absolutely run down and it wasn't used. But then there was this erm er er what was it called? The scheme er er to help The scheme, the youth scheme and er
[Terence:] The
[Margaret:] youngsters
[Terence:] Oh
[Margaret:] so that if
[Terence:] The work, work something something scheme and and they, they'd refurbish it, all th th that we had to do was to pay for the materials, they provided the labour. And in fact, you know, I mean they er they made it
[Holly:] Well it looks alright to me.
[Terence:] they made it useful again.
[Holly:] But if I, if I
[Terence:] Usable.
[Margaret:] if I had anything to do with it, I would like those, those gas fires that we've got in the room at the back of the church there, they're ideal.
[Terence:] The trouble is there
[Margaret:] The trouble is there's
[Terence:] no mains gas
[Margaret:] there's no gas.
[Terence:] into the hall.
[Holly:] No well
[Terence:] That is why we didn't, we would of liked to have had it but the cost to put the mains gas in was going to be so enormous
[Holly:] Oh well
[Terence:] and the electric supply is limited to the heating that we've got, we can't put any more in because the mains supply again is not sufficient.
[Holly:] This is amazing because in Cornwall they would put in the gas for nothing....
[Terence:] Well I mean, you know, I mean
[Holly:] Cos we had it done in our hall.
[Margaret:] they are now, perhaps if you had a word with them
[Holly:] We, we we had it in our hall, we, they put it into the building for nothing
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Holly:] and then you have to wire erm... plumb it in or whatever they call it
[Margaret:] Yes
[Terence:] Yes, that's fair enough.
[Holly:] but they put it in to the meter in
[Terence:] Well well th this was the problem, it was gonna cost I don't know how many hundreds of pounds just to have the s gas supply put to the hall and we felt that, at that time, we couldn't do it.
[Holly:] Well I had the one
[Margaret:] Presumably there's no gas here is there?
[Terence:] There's gas here.
[Holly:] Yes
[Margaret:] You have got gas here, yes, mhm there's gas
[Terence:] Well that might be that might be worth a a query I mean that might be worth a query if the Finance Committee are sort of erm er er worrying about the heating.
[Holly:] Well well we'll have to see what, what the, what the er insurance man says first
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Yes mhm.
[Holly:] but it's a long time pl er term, we've gotta look at it... and we've got to do something about it... for, for heating... if we're going to use it, if we're going to let it or something
[Terence:] Yeah
[Holly:] then there's got to be heat in there.
[Margaret:] Mm. But you see the rent... Father
[Holly:] We each want the same... same thing.
[Margaret:] the rent of the hall is very cheap.
[Holly:] Yes, but they'll have to
[Margaret:] But they have to put fifty pence into the
[Holly:] Yeah
[Margaret:] the meter
[Holly:] yeah well the gas ones the same
[Margaret:] That's that's fifty pence a yes? Mhm mhm
[Holly:] They have to sort out
[Margaret:] But i i i if you find out about the insurance, see what that is
[Holly:] Yes
[Margaret:] and then perhaps sort of contact the gas people again and see
[Holly:] Yes
[Margaret:] I mean this was, how long ago?
[Terence:] Oh this was seven years ago I suppose.
[Margaret:] About seven years ago so
[Holly:] two years ago when I was at we had the gas put into the hall.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Holly:] They didn't charge to put it in.
[Margaret:] No. Well it would be worthwhile investigating anyway
[Holly:] Yeah
[Margaret:] after we hear about the insurance.
[Holly:] find out... yeah it's all an ongoing thing
[Margaret:] Yeah [LAUGHTER] it's all go isn't it []?
[Holly:] Okay then thanks.
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[Terence:] It's good isn't it?
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Well I think so.
[Margaret:] ...... I thought I was giving you a lift [LAUGHTER] Well I, I thought of perhaps, you know, of giving you a lift somewhere....
[Terence:] Good. Well I'm eleven forty one candles.... Well that was... here and Saint Gregory's you see.... One two three four five six seven eight... nine... ten... ten fifty, ten seventy, ten eighty, eleven, eleven forty one... Right I think we can put it all together can't we and erm get a balance, yes?
[Adrian:] Yes I've added mine up....... Have you got Post Office?
[Terence:] I've got the Post Office one. Yeah.
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[Margaret:] Well it makes you feel that you might do a bit of work with something
[Adrian:] Oh but I erm I mean my husband we had some nice dung
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] round the roses and I didn't fancy doing it so
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] so I thought let him do that, [LAUGHTER] []
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] Well they want them to do their bit.
[Margaret:] You've got a nice lot of roses have you?
[Adrian:] Yeah, yeah.
[Margaret:] Have you got a big garden?
[Adrian:] Erm
[Margaret:] Biggish?
[Adrian:] well I suppose in front we've got... two dozen roses I should think, could be more
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] cos some of them are getting
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Adrian:] and need renewing. And we've got... out the back as well cos we did away with some of the vegetable garden because I mean
[Margaret:] Yes. You don't need so much now anyway.
[Adrian:] well not really because, and I think you can buy it sometimes as cheap, by the time you
[Margaret:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Adrian:] keep on erm
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Adrian:] getting caterpillars off and
[Terence:] That's right.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] rest of it biggest part of it and some of, part if it's in to grass and the other part I think is gradually gonna go to grass I think
[Margaret:] We've only got a very tiny little garden
[Adrian:] Yeah. We've got a big
[Margaret:] er but
[Adrian:] quite a big bit out the back behind our garage, there's quite a big bit there really.
[Margaret:] mm we've got erm just a little erm front garden
[Adrian:] Mm
[Margaret:] but we've a lovely lot of daffodils, they're all out now they're really beautiful
[Adrian:] Yeah, yeah I know.
[Margaret:] and crocuses
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] and erm... snowdrops.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] We've got a little tiny pond in one half of the front garden
[Adrian:] Oh yes yeah.
[Margaret:] and er that's very nice
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] to see the fishes and
[Adrian:] We've got a la quite a big lawn I suppose.
[Margaret:] Yeah. Before we came over here when we lived in we had an enormous front lawn
[Adrian:] Yeah yeah
[Margaret:] and the back well it must have been the best part of... [LAUGHTER] should think [] a third of an acre
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] plot that we were on.
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Too big.
[Adrian:] Too big I expect yeah
[Margaret:] ... not the time we didn't, we haven't got the to
[Adrian:] Well that's it, it's like my husband I mean he's working, he hasn't got the time and I
[Margaret:] That's right.
[Adrian:] I haven't got the time nor the energy, I mean not so much
[Margaret:] That's right.
[Adrian:] as I used to. I mean I
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] cut the grass so
[Margaret:] Mm
[Adrian:] he doesn't do that, I cut it with an electric cutter.
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] But I think that
[Margaret:] Yeah but erm we used to have just an
[Terence:] But it used
[Margaret:] he said he
[Terence:] it used to take half a day to cut our grass.
[Margaret:] To cut the grass.
[Adrian:] I do too, yeah,
[Terence:] You know?
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] We didn't have an erm mower in those days either did we?
[Terence:] We didn't to start with, no.
[Adrian:] We've got two, we've got the one that runs on petrol as well but I wouldn't use that one.
[Margaret:] No.
[Adrian:] Well er actually Bob bought this other one cos he knew I liked, I quite enjoy cutting the lawn, I
[Margaret:] Yes mhm.
[Adrian:] I don't dislike it at all but er
[Margaret:] But we've only got a ti now we've only got a tiny little lawn
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] but I mean if it was sort of about... s s five yards, it wouldn't be five yards by three yards.
[Adrian:] No. I suppose ours is from there... to over there I suppose, the front one
[Margaret:] Yeah now ours were nothing like, I mean
[Adrian:] No
[Margaret:] half this room and that would be our lawn in the front. Not, you know, wouldn't even be as long as that.
[Adrian:] No.
[Margaret:] But we've got sort of as I say the daffodils out there and
[Adrian:] I took up a lot of my daffs and started, erm erm I never take them up every year
[Margaret:] No we don't, we never take ours up.
[Adrian:] er but these had got really, they were choking the roses and
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Adrian:] and I took up quite a few, thinned them out and my sister
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] they live at North Bovey
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] well they can see the Manor House Hotel from where they live but
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] but my brother-in-law's gotta sit on a machine to cut his grass cos he's got
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Adrian:] such a
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Adrian:] and they've I gave them to them and they put them on the hedges
[Margaret:] Oh yes?
[Adrian:] and I expect they're coming out and looking
[Margaret:] Yes mhm.
[Adrian:] a picture now.
[Margaret:] Well ours are, ours are lovely at the moment erm
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] as I say erm we've got those but we were looking the other day and were quite amazed at how many different flowers there are out.
[Adrian:] Flowers yeah, that's right.
[Margaret:] You know oh there's a out there as well isn't there?
[Terence:] Yes there is.
[Margaret:] Er we've got a magnolia tree sort of out the front
[Adrian:] Yeah, yeah.
[Margaret:] er we had a lovely one but frost got that a couple of years ago. But this one erm
[Adrian:] I love the magnolias but they don't like the frost do they?
[Margaret:] you know, it looks as if it it will sort of er be showing you know... quite
[Adrian:] Yeah
[Terence:] It's one of those ones.
[Margaret:] ones.
[Adrian:] Oh yeah
[Margaret:] star ones, you know?
[Adrian:] Yeah
[Margaret:] But erm... and then we've got still, we, we were looking... we've still got holly with berries
[Adrian:] Yeah, do you know I think, cos I go through the woods every day with the
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] dog you see, but er you can tell it hasn't been that tough a winter because there's still
[Margaret:] Mm
[Adrian:] berries up there
[Margaret:] Yeah, yes. And we've got a on, on the side
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Margaret:] and that's got erm got a lot of berries as well.
[Adrian:] Berries yeah, yeah.
[Margaret:] But erm, mind you the birds we've got I don't know how many ever so fond of his birds
[Adrian:] Yeah
[Margaret:] and he hangs up nuts, I think he's got about
[Adrian:] That's right yeah
[Margaret:] four different little net things of nuts
[Adrian:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] and he's made a little sort of bird house
[Adrian:] That's right, yeah,
[Margaret:] er and a seed, we er hang up a seed thing so we've got loads of birds come
[Adrian:] Yeah, birds that's right, yeah.
[Margaret:] which is sort of quite pleasant. We also have the squirrels coming [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] Oh yeah they're quite funny really.
[Margaret:] Oh they are.
[Adrian:] There was a piece on the television the other day
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] Yeah we saw that
[Adrian:] have you seen that?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] yeah.
[Terence:] I don't think our squirrel is anything like as inte as intelligent as that one.
[Margaret:] that one [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] Well that one really is I mean cos I see them up in the woods quite a lot
[Margaret:] Yeah, yeah
[Adrian:] cos the dog chases them before she's got anywhere near them
[Margaret:] That's right yeah. When when we have my daughter's dog with us
[Adrian:] Yeah
[Margaret:] erm she just takes off and
[Adrian:] Yeah, that's right, yeah.
[Terence:] If she had one wish in life it would be that she could climb trees. [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah [] I suppose so, yeah. Well she, she'll take cats on
[Margaret:] Oh yeah
[Adrian:] I think she thinks they're rabbits
[Margaret:] Yeah?
[Adrian:] I'm sure she does
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] but er... what's she seen? She'll go up up the path and all I could see was this cat, and it was hanging on for dear life up this big tree and there
[Margaret:] Yeah, yeah
[Adrian:] was she sat at the bottom you know
[Margaret:] Oh yes
[Adrian:] thinking oh
[Margaret:] well Jess, Jess will sort of, if a cat came into our garden, she'd see it off
[Adrian:] Yeah well then we don't get cats in our garden cos she, she, they know she's there and then
[Margaret:] she would see it off in no time at all.
[Adrian:] Mm.
[Margaret:] But we seem to er where we live erm at the top of Church Road
[Adrian:] Yeah I know yes, yeah
[Margaret:] you're going down into park
[Adrian:] Yeah
[Margaret:] whole lot of those sort of big houses have been converted into flats
[Adrian:] Flats yeah, yeah.
[Margaret:] and erm I think there must be some people there who have brought cats in because all of a sudden there are a whole lot of cats about which there weren't before you see
[Adrian:] Cats, oh yeah I see, no that's right.
[Margaret:] so that er they, they haven't learned to keep [LAUGHTER] out of our garden yet [] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] But they have to in our garden because erm I know the first she was a the one we've got and the first day me husband brought her he went up to fetch her out the kennel and she sort of saw this cat and it's a
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] one it's just over the fence and that...
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] and there was this ginger and white cat hanging on to our fence
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] on for dear life []
[Adrian:] you know she walked straight to me again and [LAUGHTER] []
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Adrian:] But she doesn't come in the garden now
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Aah [] It's amazing how it all seems to happen, in a way, quickly
[Adrian:] All of a sudden innit? Yeah that's right.
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Adrian:] But the trouble is then you see what wants doing outside then don't you?
[Margaret:] too much. Look at my windows and think [LAUGHTER] it's about time they were cleaned []
[Adrian:] I know I'm [LAUGHTER]...
[Terence:] Four five eight ninety nine.
[Margaret:] That's right, yeah. Another penny would have made it a tidy
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah it would wouldn't it?
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Terence:] Right....
[Margaret:] Ah well it's gotta go into Muriel.... Oh we'd better write in the...
[Terence:] Yes. Right erm... I shall have to get Muriel some change actually. So do you want to write it down? I've got pound coins, one hundred and eighty
[Margaret:] One eighty...
[Terence:] er fifty pence, thirty pounds fifty
[Margaret:] thirty fifty
[Terence:] twenty pence, twenty two forty
[Margaret:] twenty two forty
[Terence:] ten pences, twenty pounds exactly.
[Margaret:] Now I, is that just silver?
[Terence:] Oh no it's er it's oh twenty four sixty.
[Margaret:] Twenty four sixty... and bronze is the same together
[Terence:] Bronze will be one... forty nine.
[Margaret:] One forty nine.... So that's... is ten nineteen... two... and four... So is that three fifty eight?
[Terence:] Two fifty eight.... Two fifty eight ninety nine....
[Margaret:] Erm... that's one one ninety nine... three over seven eight, eighteen twenty one, twenty three, twenty five... and cheques two hundred is it?
[Terence:] Two fifty eight ninety nine and the cheque is two hundred, yeah.... This is more cash paid in from the last three weeks actually....
[Margaret:] That's what I was saying you see, that's
[Terence:] There's two hundred and thirty four, two hundred and twelve, two hundred and forty seven.
[Margaret:] That's what I was saying that
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] erm
[Terence:] two hundred and fifty eight ninety nine.
[Margaret:] it's amazing
[Terence:] And look they've put them on the bottom, instead of doing the top ones first, they obviously haven't....
[Margaret:] the bank?
[Terence:] I don't want to go to the bank but what I want to do is to go to erm...
[Margaret:] Oh Tony's?
[Terence:] Tony's.
[Margaret:] Yes...
[Terence:] Erm... yes I, I've got to go back with... the money to
[Margaret:] You've got to bring money first, yes....
[Terence:] So if you want to go anywhere... I will... I'll see you back at the car shall I?... Yes?
[speaker009:] Can you tell me, do you know if it will be okay for me to come in at quarter past four?
[Terence:] Quarter past four?
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right, not two o'clock?... And not quarter past five?
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER] No []
[Terence:] Okay, quarter past four, righto.
[speaker009:] Thank you, thank you....
[Terence:] [clears throat]... Right she's coming in at quarter past four...
[Margaret:] Oh....
[Terence:] and Joanna will come in at quarter past six.
[Margaret:] You've just got the two coming?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Shame they can't get together isn't it?
[Terence:] Well it was just that erm... erm... erm... was it eight weeks your hospital appointment?
[Margaret:] Think so.
[Terence:] Oh it was, that was right.
[Margaret:] Didn't you write it in?
[Terence:] Yes I have but
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] I, er I it did
[Margaret:] Oh you thought eight weeks
[Terence:] Yeah, one two three four, it's gone on to, you know, it's into April and I just wonder whether that was, that's alright.... Yeah well these daffs have really come out now.
[Margaret:] Mm. As you say all down the side there they are all out.
[Terence:] Yeah. They're probably not so deep you see as the other ones... that side cos there's not the depth of soil in this one.
[Margaret:] I can't remember when, which cos... if you remember I bought some late... some sort of bulbs and I can't remember which.... And you put those in and I can't remember where.... Is this the erm... the
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] faulty one?... Er do you want your dinner at dinner time or
[Terence:] No I don't know what I've done with it it may be upstairs.
[Margaret:] Oh don't bother with it
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] I mean
[Terence:] Erm... well either that or we can slip it in at quarter past five, how about that?
[Margaret:] Oh yes there's that time isn't there? Yes.... Oh I can see a bag of crisps there, I think I'll indulge.
[Terence:] Gosh... [reading] police who found nineteen thousand five hundred pounds at 's tool repair business in Newark yesterday
[Margaret:] Did they?
[Terence:] [clears throat] dug up the garden of his cottage home....
[Margaret:] Oh...
[Terence:] We believe it had been buried in tin cans and hidden in walls
[Margaret:] Cos I was thinking
[Terence:] all over the place, it could take months to trace and it is possible we will never find all of it [].... Oh dear... [reading] Ian Botham's dream of helping England to victory in... his last world cup campaign took thrilling shape in Perth. Botham inspired England to their nine run win over India with his enthusiasm, experience and will to win. He was involved in everything, opening the innings, coming back as a runner for Graham Gooch, bowling a match winning spell, holding a vital catch and finally ending the game with a calm run out.... Beefy's presence in the England team was a huge bonus for Gooch. The big fella is more keyed up than I've seen him for a long time and he is channelling all his energies into one final world cup fling. Don't ask me how he manages it but there is still an aura about Botham that intimidates even the finest player.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Indian youngster... handled England's other bowlers with ease, he looked in tremendous form but when Botham came on and bowled him a harmless straight one, somehow managed to edge it into his pads and nearly played on. Not that Both would ever admit to bowling a straight one [LAUGHTER]... the ball he produced to finally get rid of was a gem and it turned the match away from India []....
[Margaret:] The thing about it is, I mean they've all got eat their words now haven't they? I mean they've all been sort of saying oh well... you know it's ridiculous to take him, let him play his panto and then sort of just join
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] the thing, I mean everybody's been complaining about that... but considering all that [LAUGHTER] he hasn't done bad has he []?
[Terence:] No.... Oh I see I thought, I don't know why, I thought there was two,ta two sort of... halves to this world cup but there's not
[Margaret:] Oh.
[Terence:] it's, it's just the one table.
[Margaret:] Oh so they've done... what they've got to do
[Terence:] Well no I mean they're each gonna play each other obviously... but you see... England, New Zealand and Sri Lanka and West Indies have all got two points from one game, Australia, India, Pakistan and Zimbabwe have all lost so they've got no points from one game, South Africa have still to play.... So I should think it's gonna be the top four... that will go into a knock out competition or something like that at the end, you know?
[Margaret:] Yeah.... Yes of course these bookings had to made by the twenty fifth of th of erm February didn't they?
[Terence:] That's right. Yes, well the twenty sixth was it?
[Margaret:] Twenty fifth.
[Terence:] Well that's
[Margaret:] Twenty sixth, twenty sixth.
[Terence:] Yes. Now that's Wednesday you see so I knew we'd got to do it.
[Margaret:] Oh so that's Wednesday... You can even get to the Imperial for two ninety seven pounds per person for five nights. If you think what the Imperial in Torquay is anyway.
[Terence:] Yeah.... Oh yes it says... [reading] this is the first world cup... the new way of playing the qualifying rounds, this is the first world cup where every team has to play each other and it should mean the best sides make the semi-finals. Under the old two group format it was very much down to luck as to who you were drawn with, the new system is much better, it allows for the odd hiccup, gives an extra dimension to every game and rewards those teams that perform on the day.
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Terence:] It also gives the smaller nations like Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe a crack at all the big boys []. [clears throat] So everybody plays everybody else once
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] and then it's the semi-finals so obviously I should think the top four clubs... will go into the knock out....
[Margaret:] Oh so they hadn't have had that at Woodbridge. Lavenham they have erm... at the Swan there...
[Terence:] Tope?
[Margaret:] T O P E that was
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] name?
[Terence:] Yeah. It's in here.
[Margaret:] Well I never ever
[Terence:] [clears throat]
[Margaret:] heard of them.
[Terence:] Just suddenly remembered it.
[Margaret:] Mm now what does it say it was, erm
[Terence:] American pop star or something wasn't it?
[Margaret:] Mm... oh well [LAUGHTER]...
[Terence:] An microwave, perhaps horse play interests here.... I've got one here and I can't get it.
[Margaret:] No?
[Terence:] Well nine down try... no take over from... S blank... oh that's an E not an L of course, that's better.... Even so S blank, S blank P E blank S E D blank
[Margaret:] Sorry? What was it? S
[Terence:] Take over from.
[Margaret:] Yeah?
[Terence:] S blank P E...
[Margaret:] S blank
[Terence:] P E blank S E D
[Margaret:] Superseded
[Terence:] blank. Superseded, yeah, super. Well done.
[Margaret:] I often can see it
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] when it's written down.
[Terence:] Supersedes
[Margaret:] supersede or supersedes or superseded.
[Terence:] Superse S E D blank....
[Margaret:] S E D E.
[Terence:] Superse oh supersede yeah, of course, supersede, yeah, supersede. Mm gosh.
[Margaret:] a funny thing... the, the chappy who... you know erm... was in the Neighbours and then became a pop star and all the rest
[Terence:] Mhm
[Margaret:] well I'm trying to think what he was called in it... but his father... his own father... is in fact Doug Willis in the series who's the father of the... that girl Cody
[Terence:] Oh
[Margaret:] and what not
[Terence:] mm
[Margaret:] [reading] he plays father of four Doug Willis in the series and also told Woman's Own magazine that the family on screen... a happy on screen family life made a welcome change from real life. He brought up Jason alone after splitting from the boy's mother Sue and said I'm very proud... I'm very pro that sort of thing []... ohm
[Terence:] I couldn't hear you then?
[Margaret:] No it's alright I, I answered myself. I said yes you did.
[Terence:] What?
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Bring out knives [].
[Terence:] Yes.... Those erm... erm... fuchsias that we bought... I reckon they've doubled in size.
[Margaret:] Mm. I thought that goes with that.
[Terence:] Yeah but what would you get with the two?
[Margaret:] With the two you get... Tesco's premium teabags, a hundred... plus Tesco's freeze dried gold coffee, two hundred grammes of that plus... packet of erm biscuits. Well the teabags don't mean anything to us really
[Terence:] Thought you said something about a chicken.
[Margaret:] Well that's if you get the, the next page... which means that you have to have twenty stamps in all.
[Terence:] Oh I see....
[Margaret:] You have to have four completed pages
[Terence:] Oh I see.
[Margaret:] and with that you would get erm
[Terence:] Oh well...
[Margaret:] I'm not likely to have that next week, that's
[Terence:] No you won't get that, no.
[Margaret:] going to need
[Terence:] So you're looking at either these... chocolates or... well you don't want the premium teabags anyway
[Margaret:] No. But then we don't use teabags do we? I mean
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] they could go to parish hall but I'm thinking to myself well... why bother?
[Terence:] Well you can always charge them, could always take the cash for that....
[Margaret:] But erm
[Terence:] So how much is the coffee?
[Margaret:] Well the coffee is what we got the other day.
[Terence:] Yeah that's about two fifty is it?
[Margaret:] Something like that, yeah.
[Terence:] And what else is
[Margaret:] And I've got a spare one of those anyway haven't I? I bought a spare one anyway.
[Terence:] Yeah....
[Margaret:] And you see other than that there's just the biscuits.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] And we've got plenty of biscuits there.... Premium teabags, a hundred and sixty... plus the freeze dried gold coffee... plus... spec erm Fox's... speciality selection biscuits.... With the four completed pages... you get a large frozen chicken er six pounds... six pounds four ounces plus... erm... party size, fourteen portions... black forest gateau... plus... a bottle of Bordeaux white wine.
[Terence:] Yes but you're never gonna get that, I mean that's...
[Margaret:] Yes that, that would be ridiculous wouldn't it?
[Terence:] Well that would be what,f
[Margaret:] Cos I'd need to spend
[Terence:] hundred fifty pound, hundred and forty pound something.
[Margaret:] Well erm... four completed pages, twenty stamps you need to have two hundred pounds in all.
[Terence:] Well that's ridiculous, I mean you won't
[Margaret:] And you see I've got...
[Terence:] Fifty, sixty
[Margaret:] I've got sixty.
[Terence:] So there's no, that's no point.
[Margaret:] No point.
[Terence:] It's really only a question of whether you get the extra one page or, or leave it as it is.
[Margaret:] I'll leave it as it is I think because
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] the teabags don't mean anything to us
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] and... and I have got
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] I mean it would be just as well to buy another... thing of coffee because at the moment you get that extra little erm
[Terence:] One anyway.
[Margaret:] jar for any, any, free anyway.
[Terence:] Yeah. Mm....
[Margaret:] So... well we could go out there anyway... to see whether they've got any er... you see if they carried it on for another month
[Terence:] That would be different.
[Margaret:] but it was only for February.
[Terence:] Yeah. Right, so anyway you want bread and you want, we want milk powder don't we?
[Margaret:] Oh yes we could get that, yes. [LAUGHTER] You crafty devil you [].... Erm what I do need, but I'll see how expensive they are, a lettuce but I can go out and buy a lettuce anyway... erm
[Terence:] thinking about salad stuff for tonight.
[Margaret:] salad for tonight.... Yes.... What were you looking for?
[Terence:] I'm reading Wednesday.
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] Oh well I'm quite happy....
[Margaret:] Sorry?
[Terence:] I said I must admit I'm quite happy here.
[Margaret:] Oh well I
[Terence:] Certainly Saint Gregory's I mean....
[Margaret:] I think we can do without the erm... the other things.
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] You know, this fund raising, it's I mean we, we'll be giving them over a thousand pound, well a thousand pound anyway
[Terence:] Well may
[Margaret:] well
[Terence:] may not be actually.
[Margaret:] Yeah well it may well be
[Terence:] But I think this will be, I mean I'm... more and more I'm thinking that erm
[Margaret:] And erm... you know the other things that you do.... They have come on well haven't they?
[Terence:] Yeah. Yeah they have, I mean they're just
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] they're just sort of shooting
[Margaret:] able to plant them out then
[Terence:] shooting up you see aren't they?
[Margaret:] We could bring that other erm
[Terence:] Yes I meant to do that, I'll do it when I come back down now.
[Margaret:] There's erm... And I mean looking after the parish hall as well, why should we bother with that?...
[Terence:] Yeah that's right....
[Margaret:] I mean we... [LAUGHTER] we have more than done... what was supposed to be to start with... to see that it wasn't a drain on the parish.
[Terence:] Yeah....
[Margaret:] ... must get bored silly... not being able to get out
[Terence:] Yeah. No I, the other thing is if we're out here, I don't know what to do about this lamp for the bedside, I mean I don't know that I need it and it's another ten pounds isn't it?... What do you think?
[Margaret:] I mean you're gonna get twenty five pounds in vouchers or something aren't you?... I don't know what... kind of vou did she say what?
[Terence:] Oh I see, you mean not get it till then?...
[Margaret:] Well it's only Friday, I mean we can
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] pay for it now. I mean what are the vouchers gonna be for?
[Terence:] I've got no i I've no idea....
[Margaret:] Probably be Smith's. [LAUGHTER] []
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Margaret:] taking off across the road like that in front of a car.... You'd think they want to commit suicide wouldn't you?
[Terence:] You would wouldn't you?...
[Margaret:] There's ever so many more people about, it's a nice day of course
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] but as well as that of course there are all the school children around.
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Now where's he going?
[Margaret:] No the fellow's stopped there, taking the cart off to go in there.
[Terence:] No indication, just...!
[Margaret:] Yeah.... He's shaking his head like mad.
[Terence:] Yeah he didn't indicate....
[Margaret:] What was he supposed to be shaking his head for?
[Terence:] Goodness only knows....
[Margaret:] Cos I was shaking mine at him [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Oh, I see.
[Margaret:] perhaps
[Terence:] Well it was ridiculous!
[Margaret:] It was, he didn't put on
[Terence:] There was no indication or anything.
[Margaret:] suddenly swept in there.... another bank there, talking about a clothes bank
[Terence:] Oh that's right they've got, at the Cricketfield Lane erm car park there's a... where, you know where the bottle bank is on the
[Margaret:] Yeah?
[Terence:] they've got this clothing bank.
[Margaret:] Oh. It did say something in that little magazine that came yesterday.
[Terence:] Did it? Mm.
[Margaret:] Yes it did come to think of it.... So they're actually doing something about this... looks almost as if they're putting steps in there.
[Terence:] Did it? I didn't notice at all....
[Margaret:] See where that erm thing is there... oh there's a place there by the
[Terence:] Oh someone's going out here.
[Margaret:] Oh someone here look see.
[Terence:] Oh is he going in there? Oh he's going in there....
[Margaret:] It wasn't a big enough room there.... Oh I see they're painting up there....
[Terence:] You get out, I'll straighten up and come in.
[Danielle:] Whoever would have thought they'd of ended up like this?
[Terence:] Yeah [LAUGHTER]...
[Danielle:] How are you?
[Terence:] Very well. And you?
[Danielle:] Yes.... Saint Mary church wasn't it?
[Terence:] That's right, yes
[Danielle:] Yes.
[Terence:] that's right. Long time ago though now.
[Danielle:] Ken
[Terence:] I know.... Are you finished as well? Yes
[Danielle:] Oh yes six years ago.... How long have you been finished?
[Terence:] I think it's nine and a bit now
[Danielle:] Oh yeah
[Terence:] just ni nine years Christmas I think it was, yeah.
[Danielle:] yeah.
[Terence:] I erm can't say I'm sorry.
[Danielle:] No I can't [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] You, you look at what go you look at what goes on nowadays and you think erm
[Danielle:] Oh yes.
[Terence:] you know?
[Danielle:] Yes they can keep it....
[Terence:] It's erm... it's been very interesting actually this last month because erm... talk about your sons joining the enemy... erm... my second son who's been up in Cheshire for... well, twenty years I suppose... he's just been appointed senior art adviser for Devon.
[Danielle:] Really?
[Terence:] Yeah [LAUGHTER] but the stuff he's shown me, you know... the sort of,th the... mandatory for seven year olds in the primary school... they've got to be able to recognize all the different sorts of painters
[Danielle:] Really? [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] painters. [LAUGHTER] He said [] he said it's ludicrous
[Danielle:] Yes.
[Terence:] he said because he said half the
[Danielle:] Yeah
[Terence:] half the teachers won't know
[Danielle:] Yeah.
[Terence:] let alone the kids themselves.
[Danielle:] Oh well, when you've got buffoons
[Terence:] [cough]
[Danielle:] like Clarke in charge... preceded by an idiot like Baker
[Terence:] I know, you see
[Danielle:] what can you expect?
[Terence:] And really you know, I mean I think to myself well I'm glad I'm out of it really because erm
[Danielle:] Yeah, yeah.... Mind you
[Terence:] yeah
[Danielle:] looking at the recent salary increases
[Terence:] Yeah well you wish you were back in don't you?
[Danielle:] Yeah [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] That's right
[Danielle:] yes.
[Terence:] I know, yes it's true.
[Danielle:] But I warned my children completely off teaching so none of them even contemplated, well they did contemplate, two of them did but I just told them... no, not to countenance it
[Terence:] Yeah well two of mine did go in, one's gone out into the fire service and the other one has stayed in and he's got, he, he's been doing very well, he's been in a big... big comprehensive school up in Runcorn, and then he's been seconded to Cheshire County... to the advisory service for a couple of years and so, hello!
[speaker009:] Hello.
[Terence:] So that erm... but yes, and all the heads you speak to, they say to themselves
[Danielle:] Yeah
[Terence:] thank you very much
[Danielle:] Do you ever go to any N A H?
[Terence:] I haven't done, I've been invited to go once or twice and I
[Danielle:] Oh I haven't even been invited.
[Terence:] and, and I've thought well er no well there was so there was something about the erm... they're trying to form a, a retired teachers' branch of the N A H T
[Danielle:] Yeah well I I
[Terence:] and
[Danielle:] wrote to them and said yes I'd be interested but I haven't heard anything since.
[Terence:] Oh but you haven't heard any more? I didn't even write, I was afraid to,co I've, I've been inv I'm involved in so many other things I don't want to get involved in anything else.
[Danielle:] Mm. Mm.
[Terence:] Erm and my wife's not terribly well, she's about here now but she's had a... she's been in hospital two years ago with her heart so I'm
[Danielle:] Mm
[Terence:] having to cut down a little bit... but I enjoy my look at Dartmoor when I get out there and I'm busy with the church and
[Danielle:] Yes.
[Terence:] I still enjoy my skiing when I get the chance.
[Danielle:] Ooh.
[Terence:] I started after I retired
[Danielle:] Did you really?
[Terence:] and it's addictive
[Danielle:] [LAUGHTER] Yes [] yes
[Terence:] it's addictive, it's
[Danielle:] I suppose so. Did you go to
[Terence:] Yeah I went to, we went in the French Pyrenees this January. I usually, we've been to Austria other years but
[Danielle:] Yes?
[Terence:] we had a change this time and I, it was quite good, yes it was erm mm frightening... you get the adrenalin flowing. [LAUGHTER]
[Danielle:] Yes, yes I can well imagine it.
[Terence:] You know there's, there's apparently there's a black run in Switzerland which is named... oh my god and [LAUGHTER]
[Danielle:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] I, you know the feeling, you know []
[Danielle:] That's right.
[Terence:] aah!
[Danielle:] Yes.
[Terence:] Still, well it keeps you young doesn't it? You know?
[Danielle:] Oh absolutely, yes.
[Terence:] Yeah, that's right, mm. Yes so we come down to this don't we? Pushing trolleys, yeah?
[Danielle:] Yeah yes
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Bye bye, nice to see you.... That was Ken Ken from Dawlish.
[Margaret:] Was it really?
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] Er I was looking at these... and er you get, you know, with the er a set of free
[Terence:] Yeah?
[Margaret:] for one twenty eight.
[Terence:] What three packs of three?
[Margaret:] Three packs of three, I was just wondering if that's good value for
[Terence:] Well it's not really is it? I mean it's
[Margaret:] Isn't it?
[Terence:] well it's, it's, it's... it's erm
[Margaret:] It was nine you know
[Terence:] nine so it's, it's less than two and a half litres. Well I suppose that's not bad.
[Margaret:] Well I was just thinking, you know,w er when we have the kids with us and that sort of thing, presumably we'll be having some of them down over... erm Easter...
[Terence:] Seven hundred and fifty... twenty two... yeah it's just over two litres isn't it? Well that's, that's not bad. Er I mean it brings it about the same price as we're paying anyway doesn't it?
[Margaret:] Yeah I know, you know, really to... I don't know what we've got downstairs if any
[Terence:] We've got some small ones but not a lot I don't suppose.
[Margaret:] I mean it's mostly for the kids... or if,w when we're travelling in the car anywhere.
[Terence:] Right.... Well is that down here somewhere? Do you want a cup of tea?...
[Margaret:] Can you remember how much those biscuits were?...
[Terence:] What, the ones we bought the other day?
[Margaret:] Yes packet... that packet there.
[Terence:] Were they about fifty two, something like that were they I think.
[Margaret:] Fifty t I thought they were fifty something but I didn't know.
[Terence:] Either fifty two or fifty seven I think they were. Cos I owe you for those, oh you need to take it out
[Margaret:] and the two lots of erm... coffee
[Terence:] Coffee. Well you'll take the biscuit... you'll take the biscuits out of the erm... Wednesday thing won't you? But I'll pay you for the two lots of coffee....
[Margaret:] I mean I had them in my erm... handbag... and I think I must have just chucked them out this morning... [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Yes isn't it?
[Margaret:] Well I suppose if I take fifty two out and I've got to
[Terence:] Well you'll have to get that in the morning of course.
[Margaret:] Well Wednesday morning.
[Terence:] Wednesday morning, yeah....
[Margaret:] away till Thursday... well we won't see her Wednesday and I've got to tell her about that Mrs what's her name that's
[Terence:] She's away till Thursday is she?
[Margaret:] Well apparently.... Er I said to Muriel...
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] oh maybe it wasn't you, maybe it was erm Doris
[Terence:] Doris I think it was Doris actually who said it to you.... So you still haven't been able to find it? Oh I know what I was going to do. I was going to phone up... the A T S tyre people just to find out how much these tyres are.
[Margaret:] the second, I must get that... ten pence off there, that's June's, that's not bad... and that one's July but that's March the second... I should have remembered that today.
[Terence:] Well March the s second is next Monday.
[Margaret:] Yeah.... What, what, do you want to find out how much for new ones?
[Terence:] Well I, yeah I do I mean I don't I don't need them just yet, I mean I think... I shan't need to get them till we come back... from the trip. But erm I'm just really interested to know how much they're likely to be and erm... find out how much the Byrite people will erm... charge for them....
[Margaret:] Well you may as well give them a ring, you found their number didn't you?
[Terence:] Yeah I found their number, yeah.... [LAUGHTER] Gosh... [] clematis nursery Westlands Saxmundham
[Margaret:] Yeah that's right
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah [] just saw just the, you know, opened the page and there it was.
[Margaret:] He's supposed to be he's supposed to be the... real expert for those.... Yes the erm... coffee is two lots of one eighty nine so that's three seventy... eight isn't it?
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] Oh that's lovely, [reading] three years ago my sister died leaving a household of two men, my brother-in-law aged eighty and myself approaching retirement age to cope with ourselves, to cope for ourselves.... Er because neither of us could really manage in the kitchen it was not long before we became very tired of having to eat convenience food... sad looking old meat pies, dried out chips and heated up frozen vegetables soon palled. I began to despair... in the local press I noticed an advert for an evening class, cookery for men... being the young one in the family I plucked up courage and enrolled but it was great, with great apprehension that I went to the first class. I needn't have worried. There were twenty of us, other chaps in much the same boat as me, Nancy our tutor was cheerful, down to earth and did not expect us to be cordon bleu cooks. That course changed my life. With a mixture of demonstrations, simple methods and constant humour, Nancy taught us to fend for ourselves. I now have the confidence to tackle almost anything in the kitchen, pies, pastas, cakes, soups, meat dishes, vegetables and bread. There have been many disasters along the road, Yorkshire puddings you could sole your shoes with, burnt offerings of several varieties, a pat that even my dog wouldn't eat and last Christmas a chocolate log that disintegrated, the proud little Santa on top sinking without [reading+laughing] trace in a sea of chocolate gunge. These setbacks however [reading] were more than compensated for by the successes. We still keep meat pies and vegetables in the freezer but only for emergencies and I'm in the third year of [reading+laughing] the course now []. Oh that's lovely. He got fifty pounds for writing that in as well.
[Terence:] Did he really? [LAUGHTER] Yeah mm []
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] [reading] I was taking my very independent three year old daughter for a walk and I asked her to hold my hand. I can hold my own hand thank you [reading+laughing] came the reply and she did []. [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Yeah.... Tell you what, it's gonna be a strange journey up to Woodbridge
[Margaret:] Mm
[Terence:] because... where... all the sort of a route that I reckon I know... I, I am not gonna know it all.
[Margaret:] No.... [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear [], you'd say this would be me... [reading] as I was leaving the travel agents I heard a woman say... my friend and I want to get away from it all, can you recommend somewhere completely unspoiled with a really nice shopping area []. [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... Mm ah you're right there. [clears throat]... Somewhere like Trega Mills...
[Margaret:] Oh that's a good idea.
[Terence:] Good lord...
[Margaret:] [reading] Use dampened string when tying up parcels, when the string dries it shrinks and
[Terence:] It tightens up.
[Margaret:] makes your parcel more secure []....
[Terence:] You know the steep hill at, at erm... between Martlesham and Woodbridge, you know... as you left Martlesham you went down that steep hill down to the erm... the pub at the bottom of the hill where you came out on the... looks to me as if the new road misses that altogether
[Margaret:] It goes round it.
[Terence:] goes round that, goes to the Bealings side of it. Looks to me
[Margaret:] You ought to give John a ring tonight
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] you know and sort of erm tell him
[Terence:] yeah
[Margaret:] what... we've done, you know say that you... we only want to see
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] while you're still able sort of comfortably to drive and that sort of thing, I mean if... you put it that way... and you'll be saying anyway she's my er she's my only living
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] real relative.
[Terence:] That's right.
[Margaret:] I know they are of course
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] er because er her children but erm... say that we... we didn't want to sort of upset her by erm you know
[Terence:] Landing ourselves on them.
[Margaret:] landing ourselves
[Terence:] That's right.
[Margaret:] on them so
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] we've arranged this... five day break....
[Terence:] But if we have everything ready... to leave as soon as I get back from chess and I'll make sure I leave promptly... if we can come straight away then, with a bit of luck... we'll be on to the M twenty five b by half past four... so we might
[Margaret:] How far round do we have to go on that?
[Terence:] Practically the whole wa half way round.
[Margaret:] Do we? Yeah
[Terence:] About forty miles on it. It's not a lot further than Gatwick but in the other direction.
[Margaret:] Yeah....
[Terence:] But it's gonna take us, I mean, what Gatwick took us about three and a half hours didn't it?
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Well I reckon it's gonna take us three and a half hours to get to the other end, so two and a half hours to it... and an hour on it if it's not too bad and then of course we've got to go up from there to Ipswich, Woodbridge... but it's dual carriageway all the way now you see.
[Margaret:] Yeah yeah.
[Terence:] So I mean it's seventy miles so it should only take us another hour.
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] So... perhaps four and a half hours, if we don't get held up on the M twenty five, four and a half hours would do so that, if we leave here at two, we could be there, you know, well by seven....
[Margaret:] So you're going, you... will be at three
[Terence:] Quarter past five.
[Margaret:] What's the time now? Oh yes erm
[Terence:] Com coming up to four.
[Margaret:] I'm just going to do er a salad aren't I?... And...
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] and erm
[Terence:] Cold chicken.
[Margaret:] cold chicken yes, and you can have the... the other little erm apricot thing and there there is a yoghurt which I'm quite happy enough to have
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] so
[Terence:] Have you got erm... John 's telephone number in your erm...
[Margaret:] Isn't it in there?
[Terence:] It's not in the long book.
[Margaret:] Oh. Well it must be in the front... here of my, here... one of those two small...
[Terence:] Oh yes... oh no, you've got their address.... You haven't got their telephone number.
[Margaret:] Oh.
[Terence:] But I wonder if it's in the chr Christmas book....
[Margaret:] Yes it could be.
[Terence:] I can ring up Directory Enquiries.
[Margaret:] They said, they erm... they said something or other they were going to be closing down somewhere in Cornwall because the Directory Enquiry service was not being used
[Terence:] Yeah but you're still erm
[Margaret:] and you're ch you're charged for it.
[Terence:] Well you're charged for it from the erm a private call but you're not charged
[Margaret:] Oh and not from a phone box.
[Terence:] not from a phone box.
[Margaret:] Oh well.... Well do you know I never knew this... [reading] I was recently hit by a car and, although not seriously hurt, I did go to casualty to have some cuts cleaned and an X-ray taken to check I hadn't broken my ankle. Now I have received a bill for nineteen pounds thirty from the hospital for the treatment I was given. I thought all treatment was free on the N H S, do I have to pay [] and they answer [reading] no, nor should you have been sent the bill although the hospital was within its rights to make a charge for the emergency treatment fee. There is a standard charge for immediate treatment given by a doctor or a hospital to any casualty of a road accident. According to the nineteen eighty eight Road Traffic Act the E T F can be charged only to the driver of the car involved irrespective of who caused the accident. The hospital should therefore have sent the bill to the driver who will be able to claim for it
[Terence:] [sneeze]
[Margaret:] insurance
[Terence:] That's right, yeah.
[Margaret:] All policies must cover many insurers will reimburse it. Return the bill to the hospital and explain their error then you should hear nothing further about it [].... Ah you see... here's somebody who's writing about, you know, her part of the erm... the interest on an er on erm and it says... [reading] and provided you have no other income er that would take you over your personal allowance register for on the Inland Revenue form R eighty five, interest with no tax deductions. You can also get this form tax office or bank. If you register immediately you'll benefit from a whole year's worth of tax free interest for what's calculated on April the fifth. If your building society won't allow you to register you can still apply for a refund of overpaid tax financial year. For details see leaflet one R hundred and eleven, how to claim a repayment of tax from banks and building societies []. So I should go into the tax office and
[Terence:] No I think I think we've got the interest... your interest on my buil on the buil
[Margaret:] Yeah I know you sent that to the building society but I was
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] just thinking then of the other
[Terence:] Oh that tax credit, yeah.
[Margaret:] Yeah.... the, the tax office and ask them
[Terence:] Oh yeah, could do that if you don't get, hear from the
[Margaret:] I should have heard from them by now.
[Terence:] I would have thought so, yeah. Didn't you say somewhere in St Austell?
[Margaret:] No no no no, I've seen one since then.
[Terence:] Oh....
[Margaret:] Bearing in mind too that as a non-taxpayer you can open an account in just your name and so enable all the interest to be declared gross.... do you?
[Terence:] Well... it's neither here nor there but I mean the thing is that we don't... as it is we're not losing anything because you're getting yours, half of it's coming back as, as gross interest.
[Lucy:] I'm tired.
[Terence:] You're tired?
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] Well you haven't been doing anything have you?
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Oh. [clears throat]...
[Lucy:] [reading] Pam
[Terence:] [reading] is cycling
[Lucy:] in
[Terence:] at a constant speed... here she is
[Lucy:] four seconds later
[Terence:] and here she is four seconds later [].
[Lucy:] Pam went twenty miles []
[Terence:] Twenty
[Lucy:] twenty met
[Terence:] Well she wouldn't go twenty miles in four seconds would she?
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lucy:] twenty metres?
[Terence:] In four seconds.
[Lucy:] That's a lot isn't it?
[Terence:] Not really, no. Not cycling.
[Lucy:] [reading] How far does she go each second []? Five metr
[Terence:] Right....
[Lucy:] [reading] How... what was her speed
[Terence:] What is her speed
[Lucy:] in []
[Terence:] in metres per second....
[Lucy:] Five?
[Terence:] That's right. Five M stroke S.... Right. Good....
[Lucy:] [reading] Ken is rowing at a constant speed, he covers eighteen metres in three seconds. What is his speed []? Six
[Terence:] That's right....
[Lucy:] [reading] The plane flying at a constant speed takes five seconds to go one thousand five hundred... miles what []
[Terence:] No. Metres.
[Lucy:] Metres, [reading] what is f what is his speed in metres per second []?... Fives into that goes... three
[Terence:] That's right.
[Lucy:] so three hundred miles
[Terence:] Three hundred metres per second.
[Lucy:] three hundred
[Terence:] I think you'll find here they won't deal with miles at.... Having said that they do.... No they don't.... They do show miles but they also show kilometres, yes right, so number... four....
[Lucy:] [reading] The lorry... travelling on a motorway at a constant speed goes hundred metres in four seconds, what is his speed []?...... fours into sixty
[Terence:] Mm?
[Lucy:] I'm being a bridesmaid.
[Terence:] Are you?
[Lucy:] Yes.
[Terence:] Oh, when are you gonna be a bridesmaid?
[Lucy:] In August.
[Terence:] Mm, who's getting married?
[Lucy:] My uncle.
[Terence:] Oh....
[Lucy:] oh, is it fours into that?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Lucy:] Mm. Fours into ten goes
[Terence:] Fours into a hundred.
[Lucy:] Oh! Twenty five oh oh
[Terence:] Right!
[Lucy:] twenty five
[Terence:] M S...
[Lucy:] I'm aren't I?... I think I've seen this one before. Pardon? , that's a good picture isn't it?
[Terence:] Mm.
[Lucy:] It is that one isn't it?...
[Terence:] It's probably a photograph.
[Lucy:] Yes.... That's good though that is.... [reading] was running along a track at a constant speed... he passed the... hundred and fifty metre mark. Ten seconds later he passed the two hundred... fifty metre mark. How far did he run in ten seconds []?... A hundred metres.
[Terence:] Right. [clears throat]...
[Lucy:] Erm a hundred metres per second.
[Terence:] Now be careful... cos you give the speed in metres per second.
[Lucy:] Mm....
[Terence:] So how far is it per second?...
[Lucy:] How far is it per second?
[Terence:] Well it's, look he passed the hundred and fifty metre mark, ten seconds later he passed the two hundred and fifty metre mark, how far did he run in ten seconds and you've put down a hundred metres
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Right. Now it says, B, what was his speed?
[Lucy:] Ten...
[Terence:] Yes a hundred metres in ten seconds but you don't give the speed like that. You give the speed in metres per second.
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Terence:] So?... What was his speed?
[Lucy:] Ten metres
[Terence:] Ten metres per second, right.... Right, here are the distance time graphs of two walkers, there's the time in seconds... there's the distance in metres...
[Lucy:] [reading] How far did Ann go in ten seconds []?
[Terence:] [reading] How far did Ann go in ten seconds []?... Right, what did you get?
[Lucy:] Erm twenty five in two seconds.
[Terence:] Good. Right so B one... [clears throat] up to now speeds have been in metres per second... we also use miles per hour... M P H or M I H... and kilometres per hour, K M H or K M P H...
[Lucy:] [reading] If the car has a constant speed of fifty miles per hour this means it goes fifty miles in every hour [].
[Terence:] Right?
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Terence:] So how far will a lorry go in three hours... at a constant speed of fifty miles per hour?
[Lucy:] Hundred and fifty miles.
[Terence:] Right.... Just shut these doors cos otherwise we're gonna get very cold in here....
[Lucy:] Two people are coming in this week. Gloria and Gavin.
[Terence:] Three people.
[Lucy:] Three people. Who
[Terence:] Alex is coming in isn't
[Lucy:] Oh yes!
[Terence:] Right well... that's what comes when you have a holiday.
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] Right, B two... [reading] if a train is going at a constant speed of ninety miles per hour... how far will it go in two hours []?
[Lucy:] Hundred and eighty.
[Terence:] Right....
[Lucy:] Do you like teaching us Terry?...
[Terence:] Yes it's quite erm... quite a challenge. [LAUGHTER] Oh yes if I've got a skill to impart I don't mind helping people....
[Lucy:] [reading] How far will a plane go in four hours that has a constant speed of five hundred miles per hour []? Oh... one, two thousand miles
[Terence:] That's right, good....
[Lucy:] It's been hot this... like summer today isn't it?
[Terence:] It's been lovely hasn't it? Mm. And all the bulbs are coming out now nicely as well. Everything's, everything will start growing with the warmth on it.
[Lucy:] And loads of people are mowing their lawns like summer today.
[Terence:] Mm. I in fact mowed my lawn yesterday.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] No it was the day before yesterday.
[Lucy:] It's been hot all... [reading] the car is going along the motorway at a constant speed. It covers a hundred and eighty miles in three hours. How far does it go in one hour []?... Sixty miles.
[Terence:] That's right....
[Lucy:] [reading] Write down its speed [].... Sixty miles per hour?
[Terence:] Mm....
[Lucy:] [reading] The 's top speed is... two thousand three hundred kilometres per hour [] no kilometres er, yeah... [reading] how far does it fly in three hours at top speed []?... Oh...
[Terence:] No, careful.
[Lucy:] Oh three times
[Terence:] That's right.
[Lucy:] Six thousand nine hundred.
[Terence:] That's right... [cough] kilometres per hour.
[Lucy:] Yes....
[Terence:] No kil kilometres sorry. Kilometres.
[Lucy:] Yes.... [reading] It is one thousand and fifty from... London to...
[Terence:] It is... what did you say?
[Lucy:] [reading+laughing] It is [reading] one thousand fi and fifty kilometres
[Terence:] One thousand two hundred and fifty
[Lucy:] two hundred and fifty
[Terence:] kilometres from London to?
[Lucy:] kilometres from London... to Veneta
[Terence:] Vienna.
[Lucy:] Vienna [].
[Terence:] Where's Vienna?
[Lucy:] Don't know. Italy?
[Terence:] No.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] Venice is in Italy.
[Lucy:] Oh yeah it is.
[Terence:] Vienna is the capital of Austria
[Lucy:] Oh!
[Terence:] and it's right across the other side of Austria from us. Where you went skiing is this side of Austria, but Vienna is about two hundred and... two hundred and fifty miles further on across Austria, very close to... erm... Czechoslovakia and erm Yugoslavia. Right... so [reading] it is twelve hundred and fifty kilometres from London to Vienna, can a Concorde do the trip in half an hour []?... How far does it go in an hour?
[Lucy:] Two hundred and
[Terence:] Right.
[Lucy:] thirty.
[Terence:] So can it go twelve hundred and fifty kilometres in half an hour?
[Lucy:] No.
[Terence:] How far can it go in half an hour?
[Lucy:] Erm one hundred and...
[Terence:] One thousand
[Lucy:] one thousand an
[Terence:] one hundred
[Lucy:] yeah, yeah fifty
[Terence:] and fifty, right, so the answer is no it can only do... eleven hundred and fifty... kilometres in half an hour.... [clears throat] Right, average speed...
[Lucy:] Ha... oh... Terry
[Terence:] Mhm?
[Lucy:] Will you take me letterboxing one day this week if you can?...
[Terence:] I don't think it's gonna be possible this week but perhaps in the Easter holidays erm
[Lucy:] [whispering] Okay []
[Terence:] we'll be able to manage it.
[Lucy:] Yeah. Okay.... [reading] It is a hundred miles from King's lions
[Terence:] King's Lynn.
[Lucy:] King's Lynn [] where's that?...
[Terence:] Erm... do you know where The Wash is? No [LAUGHTER]... if you think of a map of England... erm... the south coast is there, there's Dover, there's the estuary for London, London is here... erm... then it comes up like this, the east coast of London, the east coast of E England... like that... this is East, called East Anglia, here you've got Norfolk and Norwich and then you've got Ipswich here and then you've got Suffolk there and Essex, right? Can you remember that bulge in the map of England? Well that piece up there is called The Wash...
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] and King's Lynn is close to the wash, King's Lynn is in this area here.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] So from London to King's Lynn is, they say, a hundred miles and I'll take their word for it, London to Ipswich in fact is seventy miles.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] But, yeah, that's about a hundred miles you see, that would be about right, yeah.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] So that's where it is. North of London. Up by The Wash. Right [reading] it is a hundred miles from King's Lynn to London, the train takes two hours to do the journey... the train does not go at a constant speed, it speeds up sometimes and slows down at other times... it also stops at stations on the way [] and on once of course as it, as it's stopping it's going more and more slowly and as it's... er moving off again it starts slowly and starts to go quickly but because it takes two hours in all... the train goes a hundred miles in two hours we say its average speed for the journey is fifty miles per hour.... It says if it was travelling at a constant speed of fifty miles an hour. It doesn't, sometimes it goes more slowly sometimes it goes more quickly, sometimes it stops... but because it takes two hours to do the hundred miles we say its average speed for the journey is fifty miles per hour. Its real speed changes during the journey... sometimes it is more than fifty miles per hour, sometimes less... but in two hours it goes the same distance as it would if its speed was fifty miles per hour all the time.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] So we say its average speed is fifty miles per hour.... [reading] There used to be a train called the Cheltenham Flyer []... there it is... [reading] it went from Cheltenham to London... a hundred and twenty miles... in two hours [] do you know where Cheltenham is? Well if there is... the south coast along here and Devo C Cornwall is there and Devon is here and you get the w the Bristol Channel going up here... and then you c the coast coming down here and there's... Wales is here... right?... Bristol is there, right? And if you go up from Bristol on from here you go up the motorway to Bristol and then you go along the M four to London... well north of Bristol, up where the River Severn gets quite narrow and can be bridged is a city called Gloucester... and Cheltenham is just inland from Gloucester.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] So Cheltenham is about there, and it's about a hundred and twenty miles from Cheltenham to London.
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] Right?
[Lucy:] Okay.
[Terence:] So there's Cheltenham. Right so it... went from Cheltenham to London, a hundred and twenty miles, in two hours, what was its average speed?...
[Lucy:] Mm...
[Terence:] Well if it, if it... average speed is a hundred and twenty miles in two hours... how far in fact would it go in one hour?
[Lucy:] Sixty.
[Terence:] So what was its average speed?
[Lucy:] Sixty.
[Terence:] Sixty miles per hour.
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] It wasn't its actual speed... there will be sometimes it will be going very slowly, sometimes it will be going much more quickly... but its average speed... was sixty miles an hour because at sixty miles an hour it would cover a hundred and twenty miles, which was the distance, in two hours.
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] Right?
[Lucy:] This book isn't very big is it?
[Terence:] No, none of them are really are they? Well this one's very small isn't it?
[Lucy:] Yeah cos look
[Terence:] Oh well you're gonna get on aren't you? Great, yeah, you're half way through.
[Lucy:] Ha!... Only got s nine pages
[Terence:] Mm. Right so that was C one, C two... [reading] it is a hundred and fifty miles from Hereford to London by rail []... Hereford is north of Cheltenham, it's going up from Cheltenham is Hereford [reading] the first train in the morning takes three hours for the journey... what's its average speed []? Right...
[Lucy:] Can we go on the computer today?
[Terence:] Well there might be time, we'll see how we get on.... Now it says B [reading] what did you do with th the numbers one hundred and fifty... and three to get the answer []?
[Lucy:] Divided a hundred by three.
[Terence:] Right so you write that down, you divided a hundred and fifty... by three....
[Lucy:] I wonder what my brother's doing now.
[Terence:] Well at the present moment it's about, where he is it's about half past five, twenty to six, so he is probably... waiting for his supper I should think... his evening meal. He won't be, he'll have finished skiing now....
[Lucy:] Mm. Does it get dark over there quick?...
[Terence:] It probably gets dark about the same time as it does here.
[Lucy:] It's not dark quicker there now... would it?
[Terence:] No it would probably be, you know, no it will be about this, be a little bit darker than this.... It gets dark, it'll be dark there before it is dark here
[Lucy:] Mm.... mm
[Terence:] because it's further east... so the sun is further away from them... because the sun rises in the east so it gets light earlier... that's why we put the clocks on... when you go to Europe, one hour.
[Lucy:] Oh. In America it's loads isn't it?
[Terence:] Well in America it's the other way, in America i i... it is after us because they are further west than we are.
[Lucy:] Yeah cos it's about six hours different.
[Terence:] Mm, that's right.... Right C three
[Lucy:] I've been to Penzance. I know
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Lucy:] where that is. That's near mile end... no what's it called Land's End.
[Terence:] Land's End that's right, yes.
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Terence:] It's right down at the far south west. It's... it's more than a hundred miles from us. It's about a hundred and thirty miles from us down to Penzance.... So you know we're... about two hundred miles from London, so we're about, only about two thirds of the way from London to Penzance.
[Lucy:] Have you been to L erm Land's End since they've
[Terence:] Yes.
[Lucy:] done it all up?
[Terence:] Oh I don't know since they've done it all up, no probably not.
[Lucy:] It's good there now.
[Terence:] Is it?
[Lucy:] Yeah they show you this
[Terence:] Mm
[Lucy:] erm you go in this place and erm... and it shows you all the boats and things, and you can have a go on, there's this thing where they crawl up. And then you go through this door and it's all old like things and then you go and see erm and you go into this place and it's like telling you all the erm history and things like that
[Terence:] Does it.
[Lucy:] and it's got like rocks and things and erm statues doing like... erm... digging up gold and things a and it's got
[Terence:] Oh yeah?
[Lucy:] erm like a ship
[Terence:] Working models?
[Lucy:] Yeah. And it's got a ship and erm there's people on there and it shows you this thing round the ship erm they have a storm and suddenly the sh the erm... what do you call it? The th that big long thing?
[Terence:] Mast?
[Lucy:] Yeah that's it, all fell down and it went like that
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] yeah.
[Lucy:] And there's lots of other things there as well....
[Terence:] Right, [reading] Penzance [clears throat] is three hundred and five miles from London by rail... the train leaves Penzance at five eighteen A M
[Lucy:] Ooh ooh
[Terence:] and gets to London at ten eighteen AM [].
[Lucy:] How many hours does the journey take?... Five hours.
[Terence:] Five hours. And B... what was the average... time... speed of the train?
[Lucy:] Erm... five into thirty goes... ei si sixty five?
[Terence:] No.
[Lucy:] Oh. What's five into three hundred and...
[Terence:] Fives into three hundred and five.... Fives into thirty goes six
[Lucy:] Sixty one.
[Terence:] Sixty one. Good.... Right... C four... from Carlisle to London... is three hundred miles... gracious me, you see... if you've got a map of England, we haven't got it on here but... if you imagine England going up here, Carlisle is right... [break in recording] now just think about it... if you go out of your front door
[Lucy:] My front door
[Terence:] and you turn left
[Lucy:] turn left
[Terence:] and you go to a junction... don't you?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Now if you turn right at that junction...
[Lucy:] The train station!
[Terence:] What?... If you turn right at that junction, on which road do you go?...
[Lucy:] The... no the erm... goes to
[Terence:] Yes, which road is that? What's it called?
[Lucy:] I don't know.
[Terence:] You don't know!
[Lucy:] No.
[Terence:] If you go out of your f well go out of the gate here and turn right
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] and go across Church Road... don't go left down Decoy Road, keep straight on
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] past all the new houses that have been built, past the playing fields
[Lucy:] Yeah?
[Terence:] and you don't know the name of that road?
[Lucy:] No....
[Terence:] It is called Coach... Road
[Lucy:] Ooh!
[Terence:] and it is the er it's called Coach Road because that is the road that the coaches used to go along... to Totnes
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] and from Totnes to Plymouth. And it is the old Coach Road. So a hundred and fifty years ago... you would have the stagecoach going past here.
[Lucy:] Were these houses there then?
[Terence:] No.
[Lucy:] No?
[Terence:] No.
[Lucy:] What would of been here?
[Terence:] That house might well have been here... that big house just there across th in there which has now been turned into flats.
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] Er I don't know when that was built, it might not have been built but it er it's Victorian so it could have been built like in eighteen thirty soon fa certainly soon after eighteen thirty that would have been built.
[Lucy:] When were our houses built?
[Terence:] About nineteen sixty... nineteen sixty six.
[Lucy:] How old are our houses?
[Terence:] Well if they were built in sixty six, and I think they were, they are now, how old are they now?...
[Lucy:] Sixty six did you say?
[Terence:] I said I think they were built in nineteen sixty six.... So how old are they?
[Lucy:] Nineteen th eighty something years.
[Terence:] No!
[Lucy:] Eighty four years old.
[Terence:] No! Nineteen sixty six, what are we now?
[Lucy:] Nineteen ninety two.
[Terence:] Right, well how many years is that?
[Lucy:] I don't know.... Fifty seventy eighty ni three... thirty years?
[Terence:] Well ninety six it will be thirty years.
[Lucy:] So twenty... twenty four years?
[Terence:] About twenty six years.
[Lucy:] Yeah!
[Terence:] About twenty six years.
[Lucy:] That's... oh I thought they were very old.
[Terence:] No.
[Lucy:] Where have you lived in? Would you a hou the house... did you live into it when it was new?
[Terence:] No.
[Lucy:] No?
[Terence:] No. I don't know ho certainly... I know there had been... at least two peo different lots of people living in ours before we moved in, and I would think there were probably more than that.... Cos we moved in in about nineteen... I think we moved in in nineteen eighty... nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty one we moved in....
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] Mm?
[Lucy:] in the house that she's lived in that she's in now all her life
[Terence:] Who?
[Lucy:] My nan.
[Terence:] Your nan.
[Lucy:] All her life since she was little. She
[Terence:] Gracious
[Lucy:] she, she came... g went to the house... when she came back from hospital and she's still living in it now.
[Terence:] Good lord. Right come on me girl let's get on a little bit. D, otherwise we're not gonna have time to go on the computer
[Lucy:] Oh!
[Terence:] D... well yes we can because you can, you can finish it off at home can't you? Yes, right. So D [reading] calculating journey times []...
[Lucy:] Oh... oh look it's got the place. You know there, Poole, is that
[Terence:] Yeah
[Lucy:] no it's not is it?
[Terence:] I don't know. Is it what?
[Lucy:] No cos, can you go across there to France from there?
[Terence:] I don't know erm Portsmouth more likely.
[Lucy:] Yeah that's where I'm going to go
[Terence:] Yes. Mm
[Lucy:] yeah Portsmouth.
[Terence:] Oh Portsmouth is here. It's not marked but it's there is Portsmouth.
[Lucy:] I'm going to France... from there.
[Terence:] Are you?
[Lucy:] How long does it take to get to there from our house? Or from
[Terence:] What Portsmouth?
[Lucy:] from Newton Abbott?
[Terence:] To, to, to Portsmouth?
[Lucy:] Yeah....
[Terence:] Well, three hours, three to four hours. And then it's eight hours on the boat.
[Lucy:] I like boats even though I haven't even been on one.
[Terence:] Oh do you? Good.
[Lucy:] Yes. Do you like boats?
[Terence:] Don't mind them. You've never been on a big boat? Have you not?...
[Lucy:] Haven't been on a boat I don't thi o only like little, you know,
[Terence:] Oh. Oh that's gonna be quite an experience then isn't it? You haven't been to France then? Yes you have, you've flown of course.
[Lucy:] No... haven't been to France.
[Terence:] Well you've been to Austria.
[Lucy:] I've been to Austria, yeah.
[Terence:] Yes but you've flown? You haven't done a, been on a boat? Mm.
[Lucy:] Yeah, no not on a boat, no.
[Terence:] Right.
[Lucy:] It's nicer flying....
[Terence:] [reading] A motor boat has a speed of four miles per hour []... this means it goes four miles in every hour
[Lucy:] Oh. [yawn]
[Terence:] [reading] how many hours does it take to go from Lulworth to Bournemouth []?
[Lucy:] Twenty four hours?
[Terence:] No.
[Lucy:] Oh erm silly me
[Terence:] It's twenty four miles.
[Lucy:] Twenty four miles?... And how, it takes a minute a mile doesn't it?
[Terence:] No.... What does it say it goes?
[Lucy:] Twenty four miles.
[Terence:] Yeah but what is the speed of the boat?
[Lucy:] Oh!... Four miles per hour.
[Terence:] Right....
[Lucy:] Six.
[Terence:] Right, six hours.
[Lucy:] Six hours....
[Terence:] How long does it take, how many hours does it take to go from Swanage to Ventnor?
[Lucy:] Ventnor. Where am I? Swanage
[Terence:] Well it tells you how far it is, look
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] so you can, there's Swanage and there's Ventnor
[Lucy:] That's in the Isle of Wight.
[Terence:] That's on the Isle of Wight.
[Lucy:] I haven't been there.... Have you been there?
[Terence:] Yes.
[Lucy:] Have you been that part there?
[Terence:] No
[Lucy:] Have you been to that part there?...
[Terence:] No I don't think we landed at Cowes I think we landed over here further.
[Lucy:] Did you fly?
[Terence:] No, went on a hovercraft... well wen went on the hovercraft and came back on a, a ferry... on the boat.
[Lucy:] What's a hovercraft?...
[Terence:] Well... it's a very specialized boat in a sense, I mean it goes on the surface of the water and it literally goes on the surface of the water, it's a... hovercraft is a sort of a... it's a vessel which has got a skirt all round it...
[Lucy:] Is it a rubber one?
[Terence:] Yes, heavy thick rubber skirt and that... the engines do two things, they, they drive... propellers in the air... and they... pump air from under the vessel onto the surface of the water... and the skirt round the boat...
[Lucy:] Keeps dry
[Terence:] keeps a cushion of air under the vessel so that really it hovers on top of the water and the air propellers drive it like an aeroplane
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] but it skims across the surface of the water and it's very quick, it only takes half an hour to go from Ramsgate to Dover....
[Lucy:] Mm!
[Terence:] Right... er from Swanage to Ventnor is thirty two miles so how long would a motor boat take?
[Lucy:] Eight hours.
[Terence:] Eight hours, right....
[Lucy:] Colin's dad's got a boat.
[Terence:] Has he? And how long would it take to go round the Isle of Wight, which is sixty miles round the Isle of Wight?
[Lucy:] Er... erm... fifteen?
[Terence:] Fifteen hours, right.... Right D two [reading] how long does it take to go from Ventnor to Swanage in a launch with a speed of eight miles per hour []?
[Lucy:] Oh... Ventnor, where's Ventnor? Ah... twenty two miles... four
[Terence:] Right.
[Lucy:] four hours....
[Terence:] Right, now you get the answer to D two by dividing the distance... by the speed
[Lucy:] Mm?
[Terence:] thirty two's the distance divided by the speed... which is eight, thirty two divided by eight is four... this is the rule for working out a journey time... distance... in miles divided by speed in miles per hour gives you the time in hours. Right. You need a calculator.
[Lucy:] I need a calculator. Ooh
[Terence:] How many hours does it take to go seven hundred and five miles at forty seven miles per hour?...
[Lucy:] Fifteen hours....
[Terence:] Right.
[Lucy:] This is fun I like talking into... [reading] This diagram shows the reach or an airline... distances... are in kilometres... the figures for them are only rough... one, a jet flies from Beirut
[Terence:] Beirut to
[Lucy:] to Bombay at four thousand kilometres. Its speed is about eight hundred kilometres per hour
[Terence:] Eight hundred and...
[Lucy:] fifty
[Terence:] fifty
[Lucy:] kilometres per hour... to work out the time it takes we do four thousand divided by three er eight hundred and fifty. The answer on the calculator is four point seven O five double eight two three hours but we do not need that as that
[Terence:] [reading] To be as exact as that
[Lucy:] because the distance is
[Terence:] because the d not exactly four thousand miles and the speed is not exactly eight hundred and fifty kilometres per hour [].
[Lucy:] The nearest whole number of hours is good enough. The nearest whole number of hours [] Do you take it by that number?
[Terence:] The nearest whole number to four point seven... the wh nearest whole number to four point seven nought... five double eight... two three is five because... to the nearest whole number you look at that four, it's either gonna be four or five depending upon what that number is
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] isn't it? If that's five or more then you pu increase that by one and make it five. So the journey time is about five hours. So D four [reading] work out these journey times to the nearest hour.... Bombay to Perth at about eight hundred and fifty kilometres an hour []...
[Lucy:] [whispering] Bombay to Perth []... eight
[Terence:] Hours.
[Lucy:] Mm?
[Terence:] Eight hours, right....
[Lucy:] Rome to Beirut... two hundred and...
[Terence:] Pardon?...
[Lucy:] Two thousand two hundred
[Terence:] Two thousand two hundred, right....
[Lucy:] Four hours.
[Terence:] Right....
[Lucy:] London to
[Terence:] London to Geneva
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] Geneva.
[Lucy:] Geneva.... hundred and fifty.... One hour.
[Terence:] Right....
[Lucy:] It only takes half an hour to go to Austria doesn't it?... No, it takes an hour
[Terence:] No it takes an hour and a half.
[Lucy:] Mm, yeah,... It takes four hours to get to Lanzarote.... Six hours.
[Terence:] Good.... Right
[Lucy:] E
[Terence:] Now this is quite important, you've got to think about this... [reading] calculate as work in decimals []. But we usually think of time as hours and minutes and seconds too if we are being very exact. This scale shows both minutes... and decimals as an hour. Thirty minutes... half an hour, nought point five
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] right? Erm fifteen minutes... nought point two five.... Forty five minutes... three quarters of an hour, nought point seven five... and all the different calculations in between fifty minutes is about nought point... that's nought eight, that's nought nine so it'd be nought point eight one, two
[Lucy:] Four
[Terence:] three isn't it? Just over three.
[Lucy:] Mm yeah.
[Terence:] Right? So it says [reading] this scale shows both minutes and decimals and now use the scale to change these to minutes []. Now what's point three of an hour... in minutes?...
[Lucy:] Ten point
[Terence:] No... nought point three's there look
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] now you want to read off the top of the scale for minutes.
[Lucy:] Fifteen minutes
[Terence:] That's ten minutes
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Terence:] that's twenty minutes... that's fifteen minutes
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] what's each of those little divisions?
[Lucy:] One minute.
[Terence:] Right so point three
[Lucy:] Fifteen minut er fif... eighteen minutes.
[Terence:] Eighteen minutes, right.... [reading] B nought point seven five of an hour []?
[Lucy:] There... forty five minutes.
[Terence:] Forty five minutes.... [reading] C nought point four three hours... nought point four three []
[Lucy:] Oh!...
[Terence:] four...
[Lucy:] Nought point
[Terence:] four three...
[Lucy:] There
[Terence:] That's right, well what's that?...
[Lucy:] Twenty and six minutes
[Terence:] Si twenty six minutes.... And nought point nought five of an hour?
[Lucy:] There
[Terence:] Mhm... in minutes....
[Lucy:] Three.
[Terence:] Three minutes.... Then [reading] E, change these to decimals of an hour... twenty four minutes []
[Lucy:] Nought point four.
[Terence:] Nought point four. Fifty one minutes?...
[Lucy:] Nought point eight five.
[Terence:] Nought point five, good. Five minutes
[Lucy:] Nought point... nought point nought eight.
[Terence:] Right.... And thirty five minutes....
[Lucy:] Nought point five... eight.
[Terence:] Right.... Right well we'll just do this then you can have a go on the computer. [reading] The distance from London to Weymouth is a hundred and forty three miles... the train takes two hours forty two minutes for the journey...
[Lucy:] Mm?
[Terence:] we can find the train's average speed like this... change forty two minutes to a decimal of an hour []... what's that?
[Lucy:] Nought point seven.
[Terence:] Right. [reading] From the scale above forty two minutes equals nought point seven hours
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] that means the journey time... is two point seven hours [], two hours forty two minutes is two point seven hours
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] [reading] divide the distance by the time... hundred and forty three divided by two point seven equals fifty two point nine... round off to the nearest whole number [] that would be?
[Lucy:] Fifty three.
[Terence:] So the average speed is about fifty three miles per hour.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] So do the first one here
[Lucy:] Okay
[Terence:] [reading] D two, London to Bristol, a hundred and eighteen miles at one hour twenty seven minutes [].
[Lucy:] Nought point f n nought point four five. So one hour p one hour point, point forty five?
[Terence:] One point four five
[Lucy:] Yeah.... Nought point... one... nought.
[Terence:] So that's the average speed?
[Lucy:] Yeah... er
[Terence:] What did you do wrong?
[Lucy:] Divided it.
[Terence:] Yes, but what did you divide by what?...
[Lucy:] Divided a hundred and eighteen by
[Terence:] No you didn't
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] you divided one point
[Lucy:] Oh no
[Terence:] four five by a hundred and eighteen.
[Lucy:] Oh.
[Terence:] So what have you got to do?
[Lucy:] Hundred and eighteen
[Terence:] Right, divided by
[Lucy:] by, I've forgotten what it was now.
[Terence:] One point four five....
[Lucy:] Aha!
[Terence:] What's that?
[Lucy:] Eighty one.
[Terence:] Right... miles per hour.
[Lucy:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Now just for interest's sake... do what you did before, divide
[Lucy:] Okay
[Terence:] one point four five by one one eight, equals... now
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] that's the wrong way, you've done it the wrong way... haven't you?
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] So... push that button
[Lucy:] Oh!... Oh!!... It's turned it the other way round.
[Terence:] It's the reciprocal button
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] and... a half, one over two... the reciprocal of a half... if you turn it the other way round it's two over one
[Lucy:] Yes.
[Terence:] so it's two.
[Lucy:] Mm.
[Terence:] A half is point five...
[Lucy:] Mm?
[Terence:] the reciprocal is gonna be two.
[Lucy:] Ooh.
[Terence:] Right? A quarter Oh haven't we?...
[Margaret:] That one we had first so
[Terence:] Oh finish that yeah, yeah
[Margaret:] just find it in the fridge I bought some ham as well today you know
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] because I like chicken with
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] and then some time, these the erm, you know they had some sausage left over, so I thought if I cook them then you know, if you wanted to we could cook the ham
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] or we can have ham tomorrow
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] or something, but I cooked
[Terence:] Have you got potatoes?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Margaret:] Where did I put that? You put it there and I put it somewhere else
[Terence:] What's that? The mat?...
[Margaret:] I thought I put it over there, erm I would only want half of these potatoes, would you manage those?
[Terence:] Ha, I don't know I'll have one anyway, I'll see then when I, whether I can manage the other half afterwards or not, cos it looks enormous
[Margaret:] Well they're all big now aren't they?
[Terence:] They are, that's right
[Margaret:] There was one that I had to throw away because it was erm
[Terence:] Oh is that so
[Margaret:] all damaged at one end and I, you know, erm... thought I'd cut that away
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] but in fact it was bad all the way through
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] so, I must confess when I say that we've had bad, like that time when... Did you give er Lucy back her English?
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] I thought she was clutching it as she went past here... but erm, oh you've had some?
[Terence:] No I haven't, I haven't, when you've had yours...
[Margaret:] This is the cheesy one... I bought some beetroot the other day, they had some nice little ones, which I must cook, they were ever so cheap, I've forgotten how cheap but you know they were really cheap
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] Now can you see what I did with the lid at them?
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] Oh perhaps I never had it [LAUGHTER] a man came here, from somebody or other double glazing
[Terence:] Oh I heard the bell go...
[Margaret:] I thought it might of been Pat sort of at that time, but erm... when I looked out I saw a man with a billboard thing...
[Terence:] One of the little maps in the book shows the Isle of Wight with some towns round the Isle of Wight, and it said Poole so she said Poole, she said... the boat sailed from out of France? So I said no Portsmouth oh she said that's right she said I'm going from Portsmouth
[Margaret:] Oh is she?
[Terence:] Oh I said, yes she said, I like going on a boat, she said not that I've been on one she said [LAUGHTER] she's never been on a boat across
[Margaret:] No I don't think any of them have you see
[Terence:] Oh, she's you know, when she's been to Austria of course she's flown
[Margaret:] Yes that's right...
[Terence:] so she's erm, quite looking forward to that
[Margaret:] She is, gave her some of the warnings that er
[Terence:] No I didn't actually, but...
[Margaret:] I shouldn't think it great easy to fall off a boat actually would you?
[Terence:] No... well... having said that, if you're fool enough to sit on the side
[Margaret:] Oh yeah... but I mean if you're sitting on a seat or if you've got sort of have the rails
[Terence:] Ah, mm, mm, mm
[Margaret:] looking at the water, I think you would have to sort of climb up over the rails to fall in wouldn't you?
[Terence:] Oh yeah, you'd have to perch up on them, sit on them, you know
[Margaret:] Mm
[Terence:] well I mean you know, you know what children are, you never know what they might do
[Margaret:] I always took the point about the children in the hall didn't they?
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] They hadn't thought about that... do you know, I reckon that Sister Josephine erm behind all this, she wanted that hall and she and Father used to talk about this you see... they want to extend the church back and do away with the car parking area as well, oh that's alright, but erm... sort of can't see any point in it, I mean congregations are going down, they're not increasing, the church is big enough for... what is necessary I would of thought wouldn't you?... Don't need a cathedral in it
[Terence:] Well of course you never know I mean if they close Saint Gregory's
[Margaret:] I wouldn't of thought they'd do that
[Terence:] Mm, I wouldn't, but
[Margaret:] They'd of more like I would of thought close King Staiton... because Saint Gregory's was a purpose built church
[Terence:] Yeah...
[Margaret:] but I never forget the way that Doreen when she said we were doing things, she said you shouldn't of started it she said, you'll only get kicked in the teeth at Saint Joseph's
[Terence:] Is that what she said?
[Margaret:] Oh yes right from the beginning
[Terence:] Did she really? I didn't know that... oh
[Margaret:] Yes, when we came out here... [LAUGHTER] I'll never forget Mark, not even saying thank you, not, not even for raising the money I mean I wouldn't expect that from the parishioners, that's what we should be trying to do, but even for the food and that, till erm Kitty and... and the way he got up then and said it, most ungraciously
[Terence:] Yes... mind you I had to admit, you know me, I know, never have been very impressed with him
[Margaret:] With him, well for some reason he doesn't like us, well, you say I was thinking, I've been thinking as you know this is the sort of thing that I, gets on to my mind, but I was thinking to myself well really and truly we are so honest people ourselves, we don't go round you know and screw sort of fiddling things, I suppose it comes to hard to us when we discover other people have
[Terence:] Yeah...
[Margaret:] but I know Kay wasn't very pleased with Sister about these sort of erm... stout things, cos Sister said well if they're not collected by the time of the next jumble, we sort of empty the cupboard and put them all in for erm the jumble sale... [LAUGHTER] Kay said to me they're not hers to do that with
[Terence:] Mind you
[Margaret:] No, no, no that was, I mean Kay did what she had to do and sort of got the person
[Terence:] Yeah, fair enough
[Margaret:] to do it, but Sister wouldn't of even have that, she would of just erm, chucked them, but I know Kay put a lot of work into, she's not coming
[Terence:] Who's not coming?
[Margaret:] Whoever is due to come
[Terence:] [phonecall starts] Good evening, hello Richard, mm, mm... they have turned it down, oh good
[Margaret:] Our prayers have been answered tell them
[Terence:] Mum says our prayers have been answered mm, good... yeah, of course, yeah, oh was it? Oh good, no well, erm, I bet you were too, mm, mm
[Margaret:] Some justice yet
[Terence:] that's right, yes, cos she was thinking it was Friday, oh, you were there were you? Yeah, was there a lot of discussion? No... yeah, yeah... oh... yeah, very good, oh yeah I'm sure you are, jolly good, mm, yeah, fine and there's some, Paul off half term of course, yeah, yeah... oh is he oh very good... oh of course you're going up to Cardiff aren't you? Yeah, oh well I hope Helen gets on well, yeah
[Margaret:] When are they going, tomorrow is that?
[Terence:] When are you going, when is it you're going? Wednesday, yeah, oh well have a good journey, mm that's right, yeah, mm, mm, okay love thanks for phoning, bye, bye [phonecall ends]...
[Margaret:] I was thinking of him today, at this erm
[Terence:] Planning
[Margaret:] planning, what did he say?
[Terence:] He, it was unanimous
[Margaret:] Turned down
[Terence:] Turned down he said now of course we have to wait and see whether they go to appeal, as, as of course he said they're entitled to do, but er...
[Margaret:] She'd say they've just had a restaurant there, that wouldn't be so bad as a take away... But getting back to the finances, I mean the Two Hundred Club over the years it has been in operation, I mean with what it gets this, what they get this year, supposing it's not a thousand, supposing eight hundred, it might even be about eight thousand mightn't it?
[Terence:] It might be eight thousand, yeah
[Margaret:] Mm... and I was just wondering if that is your girl who is due to come at a quarter past six then she erm
[Terence:] Oh yeah...
[Margaret:] And I thought they were going to the meeting er on Friday because I knew they were both off
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] Are you having any more of this?
[Terence:] No thanks, that was very nice
[Margaret:] Mm, it was weren't it?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] I don't know why I've done this whole plate
[Terence:] lovely
[Margaret:] I mean when you consider that the cost of those chickens
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] somewhere else, mind you they were very cheap ones, where was that? Was it in erm Sainsbury's?
[Terence:] I don't know, I can't remember
[Margaret:] Could of been
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] in Exeter last week, took, made me think about him I think... in the fridge... Oh leave this washing up, come and have your erm, sweet
[Terence:] Oh yeah, well this won't take me a second
[Margaret:] er, well there's hardly that much to do there actually
[Terence:] That's right
[Margaret:] this thing, this erm, sort of a dinner I think
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] Alright?
[Terence:] Yes, very nice
[Margaret:] Is it alright, you know quite happy with this?... The Father came out this morning to say that the hall could, one of the first things Father told him was that the hall couldn't be insured, I mean it even staggered erm [LAUGHTER] Doris [], cos she's not heard of that before, impressed, I don't know what impressed is, but
[Terence:] I understand the go upstairs and get erm You see, you there?
[Margaret:] Yeah... [reading] jointly insured for major contingencies and potential legal liabilities, the recent re review however has highlighted that we can only insure our own legal liabilities and that we cannot insure or assume responsibility for your prudential legal liabilities [] This is to the rent is?
[Terence:] Yeah [reading] hall hired from you for a function injury due to affect the hall itself, E G the floor tile, it is likely that the responsibility for the floor tiling ensuing claim would fall upon us to be dealt with, however you're insured to lack of supervision public liability insurance [] but you see we can
[Margaret:] We insure
[Terence:] only insure our own league and so it, I mean... insured for major contingencies and that
[Margaret:] I mean you showed that to Father when it was all, cos wasn't there something
[Terence:] No I haven't showed this to er, I haven't showed this to
[Margaret:] No not to Father
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] Father Michael
[Terence:] Oh he gave me this
[Margaret:] That's right
[Terence:] he gave me this to
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] to send out and I sent it out to all the users
[Margaret:] That's right
[Terence:] but, so they've got some sort of cover
[Margaret:] Anyway, I think we'd better say well look
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] Father we're too old to be
[Terence:] Is that for birds, that fat?
[Margaret:] Yes... Before you throw that water away we need to wash the grill pan now... sorry I just
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Margaret:] ha, see anything else
[Terence:] Pardon?
[Margaret:] apart from anything else we might not be allowed to do anything like cooking or having sort of things to sell like that in the hall
[Terence:] Yeah...
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] I mean it is, it is ridiculous because we've had that November party down there, and if it does need a bit of planning, you just put the heat on a bit early... anyway
[Margaret:] Well
[Terence:] I can't be bothered any more
[Margaret:] No, I think you just wash your hands, that's it, cos we've done long enough... and I mean from say the Sunday thing, I mean we've never ever thought of the Sunday making thing, being a profit making thing have we?
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] That was always right from the beginning
[Terence:] That's right
[Margaret:] it was always sort of for social thing and pe people couldn't pay well that was alright, they didn't pay... as you say, we've done our whack really
[Terence:] Too true we have...
[Margaret:] By the way is there anything we need to record, something
[Terence:] No is, I mean I have to be out by half past seven, actually, something on half past seven on, you know, on the other programme that'll be worth recording I think, something about
[Margaret:] There is a
[Terence:] ski safety in America
[Margaret:] Yeah that's right, mm, that's erm what's his name, isn't it? John Stapleton
[Terence:] Yeah... so we'll certainly record that
[Margaret:] But is there not something on at seven?
[Terence:] No I don't think so, not today
[Margaret:] On I T V, I make, I make the erm soup sort of peppery have some
[Terence:] Right High Wycombe please, John [spelling surname] seventy and that could well be, my mad, bad numbers, thank you very much, thank you, bye Hello there you are
[speaker009:] How are you today? Thank you very much
[Terence:] Thank you
[speaker009:] Thank you
[Terence:] A bit thick isn't it?
[speaker009:] Isn't it just?
[Terence:] Yeah, okay... Oh you're coming down
[Margaret:] It's got one of those... letters... Father gave you, Father Michael gave you
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] erm on the way it might be an idea to take it down with you
[Terence:] Well if I see him...
[Margaret:] I mean I think you could say that while you were only a short time ago
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] you know and Father's given you this
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] to give to any of our
[Terence:] Yep
[Margaret:] erm... well I was gonna come down as you know and sort of do something about the loos, but
[Terence:] Oh no
[Margaret:] what, what I wondered was if you can take some bleach down, I think there's probably some down in the loo downstairs, and at least put some of that into, can you do that?
[Terence:] Yeah I can do that
[Margaret:] And, what are you doing afterwards? Coming back home?
[Terence:] Well yeah I mean I'm, I shall go up to the bank but that's all
[Margaret:] Well I was just wondering, I wanted to go up to, or if you're at the bank you'll be near the income tax office wouldn't you?
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] And if you could pop in there, you know what it is I'm
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] wanting, you know say that I sent away for erm
[Terence:] Yeah for erm tax credit
[Margaret:] you know but, but
[Terence:] Yeah okay
[Margaret:] about three weeks ago
[Terence:] Yeah I'll go in to them
[Margaret:] you know and if there is a form to fill in or whatever
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] you see cos you've got to get it filled in, in this financial year
[Terence:] Right, okay, well I'll go into the tax office then... No I cannot see any bleach down there
[Margaret:] Isn't there some in the
[Terence:] nothing in the loo
[Margaret:] Well do you think you could pop upstairs and look and see if I've got by any chance have
[Terence:] I've put, put this heater on which might give us a little bit of, a little bit of warmth [LAUGHTER] Well I don't know, er up in the loft
[Christine:] Oh
[Terence:] er, I mean you know it's, there looks like some like, it's almost like jumble isn't it?
[Christine:] It does doesn't it?
[Terence:] Well if there's stuff that's you know, you don't want and it's all right for jumble, I mean if you want it for jumble take it, but if not we'll have it for jumble, I mean you know it's erm
[Christine:] It's all the same kind of thing
[Terence:] It's all the same sort of thing yeah
[Christine:] That's right, yeah
[Terence:] What are you going to do about this bottom cupboard?
[Christine:] It's gone, it's empty
[Terence:] Oh it's empty, you've emptied the bottom have you?
[Christine:] Yeah
[Terence:] Oh well done
[Christine:] Good, all is
[Terence:] oh very good
[Christine:] There's this, what you see here is actually for your jumble
[Terence:] Is it?
[Christine:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, okay that's fine
[Christine:] that one was intended to go I expect... yes that one was intended to go
[Terence:] Yes... erm is this rubbish here?
[Christine:] Oh this is er, not that
[Terence:] Cos I mean we might
[Christine:] We could of done with a plastic bag under it
[Terence:] Well we might be able to put some in a wheelie bin
[Christine:] Oh yeah, that's right, yes
[Terence:] but shall we get, shall we
[Christine:] Let's get, get on with these
[Terence:] Yes... Oh well
[Christine:] What?
[Terence:] old semaphore flag eh?
[Christine:] Well they're meant
[Terence:] No
[Christine:] to be but
[Terence:] they could of been
[Christine:] should of been but they're the wrong colour
[Terence:] tis the wrong colour innit?
[Christine:] I think that's what, that's what I, I run a school you know for signalling, morse code and semaphore
[Terence:] Do you?
[Christine:] Yeah, they should be
[Terence:] Yeah there should be stripes across
[Christine:] red and yellow or blue and white, but still they're
[Terence:] I used to know my semaphore I'm, I've never really mastered the morse, but I used to know the semaphore
[Christine:] Aha...
[Terence:] Come to that I mean I can put some of this in the car and dump, just take it over to the tip
[Christine:] Er yes alright, let's see how we get on and er, there again absolutely
[Terence:] That, that has come off
[Christine:] Oh
[Terence:] that cabinet hasn't it?
[Christine:] it has too, oh yeah, I'll put that back up there
[Terence:] Put it back up and I'll nail it up some time when I bring up erm, I'll bring up a hammer
[Christine:] I'll put it that way then
[Terence:] That's right, yeah
[Christine:] see exactly where it is, right, well we're er
[Terence:] Shall we, if I go up and hand stuff down will that be the easiest way of doing it?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] In fact some of this can be thrown can't it?... Can I drop that? That looks like a
[Christine:] Er yeah drop that
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] Can you manage there?
[Christine:] Yeah, alright...
[Terence:] You be careful won't you?
[Christine:] Yeah...
[Terence:] This can be chucked, I'll chuck it down
[Christine:] Alright...
[Terence:] Old things here aren't there? Really a lot of this is
[Christine:] Quite a lot of it
[Terence:] almost chucking isn't it?
[Christine:] Yeah well that's, that's right...
[Terence:] I think probably if I can get this in a box it'll be a lot easier, cos it's a lot of loose stuff, that's a saddle, I'll chuck that down, erm, I don't know about these things, but er...
[Christine:] We'll ditch them those
[Terence:] Ditch them I think don't you?
[Christine:] Yeah
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[Christine:] Tell you what, this is a bit of exercise this innit?
[Terence:] Yeah [LAUGHTER], well they say every step you go up adds a second to your life
[Christine:] Yeah
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] yeah [LAUGHTER] me too... erm... er this is, is a lot of school stuff in here, powder paints and paint, I'm just wondering whether being a school might like it, oh I don't know it's empty, that's empty, that's empty, that's empty, no
[Christine:] Ah, put it all in with, what's that er
[Terence:] Yeah
[Christine:] put a use this you know
[Terence:] What, oh
[Christine:] Yeah you can use this
[Terence:] Right that's fine, oh right, great, yes
[Christine:] can use it alright, I should be up there on Saturday, I shall load the car up and take them
[Terence:] Let me can I
[Christine:] Wait a minute
[Terence:] You get down a bit lower and I'll drop it down to you
[Christine:] Wait a minute, see if I can just
[Terence:] You be careful
[Christine:] Whoops... that's right...
[Terence:] yeah, erm, I don't quite know what to do about this, this is, I've taken some stuff out, if I can slide it down the
[Christine:] Yeah
[Terence:] If you, if I hold this at least until you get a bit down
[Christine:] Yeah, I don't, wait a minute, wouldn't you want this for your own kitchen window?
[Terence:] I don't think so
[Christine:] You won't, alright
[Terence:] we've got, we've got ever so much stuff
[Christine:] Okay, I've got it
[Terence:] Is that alright?
[Christine:] Yeah...
[Terence:] There is another lot here in a bag, but this plastic is beginning to go, so I'll drop it down to you
[Christine:] Alright, I'm there
[Terence:] Mind the plastic because it might split
[Christine:] That's right, there...
[Terence:] Now there's some of these, I'll just drop them down onto these erm, so I'll drop it down onto that
[Christine:] Wait a minute let's... yeah...
[Terence:] You know it's wicked isn't it really, cos some of this stuff, I mean this is not at all bad is it?
[Christine:] No, got it
[Terence:] Can you manage?
[Christine:] Yeah... to collect such
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] No don't come up I'll slide this down it's not very heavy, I just put some bits of stuff in, it's not terribly heavy...
[Christine:] Alright then
[Terence:] Okay?... this is a box of Tide soap powder, I mean there's quite a lot there If I drop this down can you just erm, not drop it down...
[Christine:] Sorry
[Terence:] Okay?
[Christine:] Yeah
[Terence:] I think that's the lot
[Christine:] Good, ha, I was, I was gonna say leave you to it
[Terence:] Yeah [LAUGHTER]
[Christine:] just as well I think...
[Terence:] Actually in honesty they have taken quite a bit out of there, cos there was an awful lot of stuff in there, you could hardly get in at one stage... now what are you gonna do with these bike things, are you gonna chuck them?
[Christine:] Oh yeah I think so, I don't think that I can make anything of it, I'll take that box to school because they might be doing a might be able to rescue that lot
[Terence:] Yeah
[Christine:] Anyway, I'll see what I can get in the car
[Terence:] Right well I'll, I'll open up mine and we can see what we can get in mine Ooh it's a load of rubbish isn't it?... I think if I take this lot to the tip now, I'll come back
[Christine:] Alright
[Terence:] then perhaps we can dispose of
[Christine:] Yes, there won't be a lot left
[Terence:] the rest of the stuff
[Christine:] That's right
[Terence:] Okay?
[Christine:] Yep
[Terence:] You'll be here for as I come back won't you?
[Christine:] Er yeah I'll be here...
[Terence:] Is that all rubbish in there?
[Christine:] All rubbish, yeah
[Terence:] Right
[Christine:] and I think, I think in there... er I don't think we're gonna get anything else in there
[Terence:] No I don't think we are, well I can, I can get this erm... right, well I can take that in
[Christine:] Er I'll take that one with me
[Terence:] This is rubbish?
[Christine:] Yeah that's rubbish
[Terence:] Right, okay, give me a hand with this...
[Christine:] This as well, right... didn't take long to get down the tip?
[Terence:] No
[Christine:] What a lot of stuff they've got down there, I can't understand why people threw it away
[Terence:] I know
[Christine:] There's windows and doors
[Terence:] I know it's, it's fantastic isn't it?
[Christine:] Before the war people would of screamed out for that
[Terence:] Well I mean people say, you know, there's, there's so many poor people about, but there's no, there's not the poverty there was
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Christine:] oh
[Terence:] Right, that's it, that'll do, I won't go any further and I can get the other things in... well we had er, we had an aluminium friend, a double glazed enormous window over our landing and it was, the aluminium was so cold and it was conden there was so much condensation that we had a new window P V C put in, but I tried to sell this other window, cos it was beautiful you see, nothing wrong with it except you know, but nobody wanted it and I kept it and I had it for about two years standing outside and then I thought I can use that and I cut, it was a three section, three lots of glass all in one, cut down, divide it into two and one, and got myself a plant house under the erm
[Christine:] Yeah
[Terence:] under my verandah
[Christine:] Yeah, yeah... er right I think we've finished...
[Terence:] Have you got to go to the tip?
[Christine:] That's it
[Terence:] Yes...
[Christine:] Alright, leave the car there just for a bit I want to go over and see the dentist just for a minute
[Terence:] Right
[Christine:] alright?
[Terence:] Yeah, erm okay well I'll go, I shall be coming back here actually, but er, I'll take this lot I think now anyway, well no I won't I'll do what I've got to do here now and then I'll, I'll go afterwards
[Christine:] I shan't be long, I'll only be about ten minutes
[Terence:] Okay, fine Er those snowdrops are really... quite something.... A beautiful bank full of them.
[Margaret:] And you see they say that... erm snowdrops really want... The best way to sort of erm... increase them is just sort of
[Terence:] [clears throat]
[Margaret:] pick out a lot of those and then put them in another part of the garden.
[Terence:] yes yeah....
[Margaret:] They, they're two... ninety?...
[Terence:] Mm... yeah...
[Margaret:] Should be nice fuchsia there... fuchsias....
[Terence:] Forty nine pence each or four fifty for ten.
[Margaret:] Oh yes.
[Terence:] It was three fifty for ten.... Mm someone's scarf?
[Margaret:] Yes mm... child's by the... size of it....
[Terence:] Thank you very much. [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] That's the second person that's c said that in the last three days would you believe []? Yeah [LAUGHTER]... [clears throat]... Now what was that that went behind us?
[Margaret:] I thought it was a little er blackbird.
[Terence:] Oh was it?
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Terence:] I w I would have said it was an animal, you know?... Didn't, didn't fi Oh yes [LAUGHTER]... Erm...
[Margaret:] you wear it
[Terence:] Right
[Margaret:] you're
[Terence:] Oh isn't it nice?
[Margaret:] skiing.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Oh yeah []... [sigh]
[Margaret:] [cough]
[Terence:] Right...
[Margaret:] Let me get my broth back.... Oh... Oh we'll go back home if that's alright.... Unless you want to go somewhere else.
[Terence:] No I, I was just sort of erm... A wondering and B wondering whether to go back a different way round and...
[Margaret:] Well it's up to you cos I'm quite happy to go... have that little walk, I wanted a little walk.
[Terence:] But that's enough?
[Margaret:] Oh no no no, I mean I'm alright if I sort of get on a... a straight because oh these that are coming out
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] that is out.... No I'm alright as it happens, so that's okay.... it's still okay left if you want to nip over... oh back this way.......
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] Did you hear Christopher saying that he was going to be getting erm... a new Cavalier?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Having, having booked it that morning
[Terence:] That's right, it was twenty pounds cheaper
[Margaret:] was it now? Was he
[Terence:] No it was twenty pounds a month less.
[Margaret:] Twenty pounds a month less was it?
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Oh I thought it was more than that.... They hoped it would get through.... He says he was gonna have to get something anyway wasn't he?
[Terence:] Yeah oh yes.... Sort of a yellow
[Margaret:] Yes
[Terence:] tinge to that, don't know...
[Margaret:] ... Oh look
[Terence:] Yeah, there's a rugby pitch there, I didn't know there was a school there....
[Margaret:] that's one of those erm handicapped
[Terence:] Is it?
[Margaret:] . David could have gone to it. Remember your mother taking David up to Birmingham way... where they had erm... big new Oh I thought it was me making all that noise. I was breathing and I could hear sort of I was thinking first of all it was coming from, you know... somewhere outside like somebody
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] sawing a tree or something.... Widening the road here or something.
[Terence:] Yes, just widening it and straightening out some of the bends.
[Margaret:] cos that was a bend there wasn't it, obviously.
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] Gosh the valley goes really far down there.
[Terence:] Yeah it is deep down isn't it?...
[Margaret:] one or two houses, you know, when I caught sight of it first... I don't see them now.... [cough] He must have been fishing.
[Terence:] Looks like it doesn't it?
[Margaret:] [cough] He's got a big keeper net there.... Was the disabled toilet alright?
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []...
[Margaret:] Nice little waterfall things.
[Terence:] Yes, a weir....
[Margaret:] It's good to have those on the ground, you know, for people who are... gosh... who are you know incapacitated. But sometimes people think well they're only for disabled but... I don't believe that's so
[Terence:] No I don't think it is either.
[Margaret:] because I think to myself well... you know... if there are no disabled people about, and more often than not... there are not... why shouldn't anybody use them?
[Terence:] That's it. Yeah
[Margaret:] we're going past.......
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] big erm tree
[Terence:] tree that's making it fall down yeah....
[Margaret:] The thing is beginning to look... you know light comes
[Terence:] They're gonna get, yes
[Margaret:] through it.
[Terence:] that's right....
[Margaret:] ... had to take a sort of erm... south to... erm... not... just thought of both the names... and the other one... but they would be nearer to Exeter... but it wouldn't be sort of in Exeter itself... I was thinking, you know, probably get erm... you know, see if there's any new houses being built there and... what sort of price and what have you.
[Terence:] Yeah....
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] I'm not quite sure where you mean.
[Margaret:] Well it's sort of on its way to Exeter.... Chudleigh
[Terence:] Chudleigh...
[Margaret:] Mm we haven't been through this way for a long time have we?
[Terence:] No we haven't.... I could certainly do with a drink.
[Margaret:] Could you?
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] Well I suppose it's not far to go home for a... well it'd be nice if we saw somewhere that was nice.... Or do you know somewhere?
[Terence:] No I don't know anywhere, no....
[Margaret:] The... The Olde Lion, don't think we'll go there.... open for lunch and dinner.... The Coach
[Terence:] The Coach House
[Margaret:] House... Funnily enough I was [LAUGHTER] going to say to you [] when we were out at erm Dartington instead of buying that ice cream, we should of had a cup of tea... probably would of been about the same price, and so []
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]... Probably the tea would of been better for us.... Small development, that must, that must be down there somewhere. But you see practically anywhere here would be within Christopher's...
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] erm... you know, distance into... Exeter. I mean he was saying that er...... erm what do you call him? Yeah... he lives in erm... in, in...
[Terence:] No it's warehouse units going up there, I thought it was gonna be housing, more houses.
[Margaret:] Oh there i there is new housing, you know, there's more
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] development er back there, that's what made me think of it.... They wouldn't want to be near warehousing units of course but erm... there's a lot of new building going on and with so much competition... Thinking of Imelda for a job, I mean... there's, there's loads of places here as well for her...... Exeter Hospital... you know the... Torbay.... Somebody mind you was on about Torbay this morning on the... radio I think it was... saying that there were so many complaints and nurses are under such great stress.... And [LAUGHTER] [] I was very naughty I, I... felt like saying well some of their, they, them aren't... er do you remember the very last time we were up in the hospital at the waiting area, there was those two nurses that walked up and down
[Terence:] Mm mm
[Margaret:] about five times doing nothing....
[Terence:] That's right.
[Margaret:] [cough]... So really and truly I mean it's not all nurses that are so stressed. I'm sure there are some who are... you know, are in a bad way and they're having to do other things that they shouldn't be doing. But this is the trouble with everybody these days isn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah....
[Margaret:] Everybody just wants to do what they should be doing whereas with my job it never even thought about it did we?
[Terence:] No, no....
[Margaret:] Tell you what erm when we get into you can just drop me down to... the greengrocer near the church because I'm out of erm... spring onions and if I wanted to... add up to that bit of salad that we've got
[Terence:] Right.
[Margaret:] tonight, if you're gonna have that, oh I can have a bit some other night then
[Terence:] Mhm
[Margaret:] But this week is the last... that we can go to the erm Beefeater and get that
[Terence:] Oh ha have you got that voucher still?
[Margaret:] yeah
[Terence:] Oh.
[Margaret:] off the cost of a meal. And then you get half of a bottle of wine as well or something.......... Got double lines coming up... that's funny... stuck there like that...
[Terence:] Well I didn't sort of notice what it was.
[Margaret:] Oh it was just two
[Terence:] Oh I see, well some signpost, yeah poles for a signpost
[Margaret:] see them?
[Terence:] Yeah I can just see them in the rear mirror....
[Margaret:] Oh could be for a signpost, yes it could indeed.... red car's coming, coming as well.... And another one as well coming....
[Terence:] Oh he was far too close you see, he was far
[Margaret:] He's going to tr she, he or she is going to try and go now.
[Terence:] he was far too close to it and he didn't see what was happening you see. The other car did....
[Margaret:] He is telling it to go now look, you see he's put on his lights.... Yeah... Wonder why the police car put its lights on at that moment.
[Terence:] I don't know but erm
[Margaret:] Oh you were quite legit
[Terence:] Oh I was legit, yes, nothing wrong with me.... I was well clear.
[Margaret:] Yeah....
[Terence:] The other one's not in sight, the whole of that straight.
[Margaret:] It never came did it?
[Terence:] No....
[Margaret:] But I think the, the tractor driver put on his lights
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] to say it was clear.... I was thinking when Daniel was down here... that erm... Paul... you know and all his girlfriends, various girlfriends, for a long time now... and I said something to Daniel well you know are you sort of courting yet?
[Terence:] No no, he says no, no
[Margaret:] No. [LAUGHTER]... And I don't think Tim is very interested.... I think there's many more women driving now aren't there? If you look.
[Terence:] Yeah....
[Margaret:] going round anyway so... she's going round as well
[Terence:] Well I think I'll go round actually cos they're queuing up, we want to go to the grocers so er if we go up The Avenue... we shall just come past the front of it....
[Margaret:] Colin something or other? I forgot in that second what it was
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah [] always happens to me.
[Margaret:] It was Colin somebody....
[Terence:] It is well worth going down...
[Margaret:] Yeah.... I should think in this day and age they could
[Terence:] Now there look at that lot as well. I mean it's amazing isn't it? All on to one post.
[Margaret:] Yeah....
[Terence:] I think this building is... dreadful for the poor people living in those houses just behind it.
[Margaret:] Mm.... Oh but this is the erm council office as well isn't it?
[Terence:] well there's in gonna be income tax isn't there amongst other things. their light and their view and everything, I think it's dreadful. And it would, I mean they, they wouldn't of even had expensive houses anyway but they must have taken their value away tremendously....
[Margaret:] at the back of the houses there but erm... There's that and then there's the new doctor's surgery.
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] That's been pulled to bits in the erm press.
[Terence:] Yeah....
[Margaret:] I've not seen a lot of it actually, so far....
[Terence:] I mean I must say it looks a bit bitty... but erm... er... now you see up there they've got the same, similar sort of style really to those houses....
[Margaret:] Did you ever get in touch with the erm
[Terence:] No I didn't, no.
[Margaret:] It's not A T S
[Terence:] Er well I mean I want to find from A T S or someone like that how much their cars would cost
[Margaret:] Well what was the one that erm Maurice gave you? It wasn't A T S was it? No.
[Terence:] That was, no that was that was Byrite and that, but I w I would go there but I'd like to go there... with some idea what the price elsewhere is.
[Margaret:] Yeah.......
[Terence:] Oh.
[Margaret:] round the corner. You'll be in the car....
[Terence:] Right, if I'm not there I will come round the block. He was looking at you.
[Margaret:] He's listening you see.... [whispering] Go on, have a drink []... something.... Oh those daffodils are really coming out now aren't they?
[Terence:] Aren't they lovely? Yes.
[Margaret:] Oh one's gone right up to the top of the...
[Terence:] The other one's staying on the ground....... Well I mean we've still got two bottles there.
[Margaret:] Even so I mean... we might not be so lucky....
[Terence:] Yes, it'll be nice to have a cup of tea.... Shall I carry it through?
[Margaret:] Please.... Now is there going to be enough there, salad- wise? I mean are you going to
[Terence:] Oh I would think so yes....
[Margaret:] Cos I got that other meat, the red meat to do for a supper but I can do that for tomorrow
[Terence:] Well that's fine isn't it?...
[Margaret:] Does she
[Terence:] Oh you've taken the bread out have you?
[Margaret:] Oh these bits?
[Terence:] Yeah I was just gonna have that
[Margaret:] Oh you were?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Sorry.
[Terence:] I don't know whether sh I shouldn't think so. I don't know ho they're gonna do, well I mean I don't know how they, how they work it. It must be quite a job I should think. I mean I don't think I would of...
[Margaret:] But then he'd, apparently he seemed to have an older brother with him
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] It said something about
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] the older brother had said, I, I can't really remember what it
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] was....
[Terence:] And presumably he would swim, but you don't know that, I just, it hasn't come out has it?...
[Margaret:] The child is... still very seriously ill in the hospital. it could be... I have to put in my erm... investment
[Terence:] Income.
[Margaret:] interest as well....
[Terence:] But that is paid gross, that is paid, they don't deduct... there isn't any tax deducted for that.
[Margaret:] Oh that's right, that's right. But you have to put that and put your erm
[Terence:] You've got to show all your income in other words.
[Margaret:] Mm.... They can find that ou find out the interest I suppose....
[Terence:] Well your, your book went in last November didn't it? [cough]... Looking up?
[Margaret:] I'm just looking at the selection of flowers.
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] And, when, was it November?...
[Terence:] It goes in in November, yeah.
[Margaret:] But I, I don't always put it in do I?
[Terence:] No.... I think you did this year, but I di I don't remember seeing those standing up as tall as that.... They're really quite pretty.... So it's starting. What are you, what are you going to for?
[Margaret:] Well... just to get some of that erm
[Terence:] Soup mix or something or other.
[Margaret:] Soup mix, yes. I mean I know it's stupid er... I just wanted to... and there's no hurry at all for it and if you'd rather go somewhere else now
[Terence:] No it's alright, no we can go there.
[Margaret:] let's go there another time, I don't mind.... We'll wander round, I mean let's to know that we can sort of just have a little walk as it were.
[Terence:] Yes erm I'm trying to think where there might be...
[Margaret:] Oh they've got names on those gates now, did you notice that?
[Terence:] Hillside? Er here you mean?
[Margaret:] No on erm
[Terence:] Oh!
[Margaret:] the, what do you call them's? The 's.
[Terence:] Oh the 's, yes I think I have se noticed them, yes.
[Margaret:] The cottage is on one side and something on the other.... And it's something on a big gate.... This can be our half term treat. Right.... Where did Richard say was yesterday?... You said something or other to him
[Terence:] Yes, I can't remember now....
[Margaret:] ... Helen's is she? Cos they don't have half terms do they?
[Terence:] I think they do actually.
[Margaret:] Oh do they? Yeah....
[Terence:] There you are, dog warden.
[Margaret:] Dog warden yes, mm.
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] Now I filed my nail this morning cos it was catching, I didn't file it long enough obviously, but I filed it with that erm... you know you opened up the
[Terence:] Oh yes, yeah.
[Margaret:] and left the f the file on the windowsill... I hope he pulls in and lets people go past. Oh he's going left.
[Terence:] He's going l left here.... Going into the cemetery.
[Margaret:] [cough]
[Terence:] Trouble is, person in front's got a trailer as well.
[Margaret:] Oh yes, mm. [whispering] Oh he's going right []... right into there.
[Terence:] Oh this one's going right as well, oh, very good.... [LAUGHTER]...
[Margaret:] What were we talking about?...
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] I don't know [].
[Margaret:] I was talking about something, I don't know... mentioned about Paul and then I'd said about Helen
[Terence:] Helen, yeah.
[Margaret:] ... Anyway erm... Richard was feeling quite relieved about the
[Terence:] I think so, yes the planning
[Margaret:] about the
[Terence:] permission being turned down, yeah....
[Margaret:] No I don't blame him, I mean
[Terence:] No I don't.
[Margaret:] lot of times I've, you know, thinking sort of is sh...
[Terence:] I mean he's got a nice house there, he doesn't want it erm
[Margaret:] That's right.
[Terence:] spoiled. The trouble is I mean if, if it did, it came up and he wanted to sell it would of... it would obviously decrease the value.
[Margaret:] Yeah, that was what he was thinking of....
[Terence:] You'd get all the rubbish from a... take-away as well blowing into his garden, I mean it wouldn't have been very pleasant....
[Margaret:] much... he reckons his house is worth now. But I suppose in a way they would have then been contemplating... selling their own house and getting somewhere else before in fact
[Terence:] Yeah.... It's a shame because I mean it... I think what they've got is really... you know, er er er they'd be hard put to it to get anything... as good really at the price I think. Mind you they'd probably get a hundred thousand for theirs I should think now....
[Margaret:] Yes I think, that's what I was thinking of....
[Terence:] Do you remember when we used to come out here for the primroses? [LAUGHTER] That's a long time ago isn't it?
[Margaret:] Did we come out this far then?
[Terence:] Well used to come out to Totnes didn't we? By
[Margaret:] Oh yes...
[Terence:] Oh the sun's trying to come through now.
[Margaret:] Yes.... said there might be this afternoon.... I haven't seen any primroses sort of like in the hedges yet
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] but erm... yes the garden's alright but then they've been there in the garden all the winter as well
[Terence:] Yes that's right.... There's a lot of sheep there.
[Margaret:] ... Look!... Tony and Doreen will be back tomorrow won't they? Thursday they said.
[Terence:] Well Thursday, tomorrow's Wednesday.
[Margaret:] Oh yes, that's right....
[Terence:] Police....
[Margaret:] Said she'd try and er
[Terence:] ?
[Margaret:] before the weekend, you know, to say
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] when they could come.... She said that had been her first earliest morning.
[Terence:] It had been?...
[Margaret:] She didn't say anything about the
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] possibility of a new job and I didn't mention it to her.
[Terence:] No well I, I'm n
[Margaret:] I got the feeling Bob said it wasn't
[Terence:] I, I'm not absolutely sure from what Bob said whether she even knows about it. I think... I don't know, I may be wrong there but erm...
[Margaret:] We ought to go down and investigate the erm... the you know.
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] I know people say well oh it's, of course it's changed ownership, well... things change ownership and it can be for the better as well for the worst can't it?... The sit down snack bar
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []
[Margaret:] or something. Didn't get to read
[Terence:] No I didn't get to read it either. Something on the right I think it was. bed and breakfast there, whatever that is.
[Margaret:] Think that er... sounded like a snack bar that might be on a
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] lay-by or something....
[Terence:] Must be here look.
[Margaret:] Oh it is a lay-by, yes.... Yes that'll be it....
[Terence:] Gosh, suddenly a lot of traffic. That's the first we've erm
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] Perhaps it's market day at... Totnes?... It's funny er when Richard came in the other day and said he'd been... he'd been to the dentist and you said oh well they haven't been in touch with us yet.
[Terence:] Yes isn't it?... we ever meet this lady.
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] It was funny to hear Miss and not Harold....
[Margaret:] Oh is that her name?
[Terence:] Mm yeah.
[Margaret:] ... You can walk along the river can't you erm... that's at Dartington isn't it?...
[Terence:] Erm
[Margaret:] And that's where you can walk along and you, you know, er when there are... salmon leaping
[Terence:] Oh it's only the road, I don't think there's a, I don't think there's a walk along there... not here.
[Margaret:] I thought there was... somewhere. They've got that erm... got that big sculpture somewhere about there.... Somewhere near the college I think.
[Terence:] Well I mean we can... we're er I'll,w we'll
[Margaret:] I just can't remember.
[Terence:] I'll go to Dartington via that back road... cos you can go that way... turn off up here... and see....
[Margaret:] Was it through the grounds of the
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] college
[Terence:] mm well
[Margaret:] that I'm thinking of?
[Terence:] you can drive through the grounds of the college.
[Margaret:] [cough]... Are there lights?
[Terence:] Yeah....
[Margaret:] side and Dart side.... I can't really remember where it was exactly.... We did walk somewhere one time and erm... very very nice the... it must have been the time when the salmon were riverside walk.
[Terence:] Oh yes yes.... Well we've never been along that, actually.
[Margaret:] ... Still got a lot of erm
[Terence:] Yeah, making ponds and things by the looks of things....
[Margaret:] Making new roads?
[Terence:] Making ponds by the looks of things,
[Margaret:] Oh.
[Terence:] yeah....
[Margaret:] Wonder if the only time I was, when I saw this, was somewhere er when Christopher was with us.
[Terence:] You see that's no, oh no parking in this area. Erm...
[Margaret:] Well it doesn't matter really, it was just that I sort of
[Terence:] It looks as if there is a walk down there but we've never been on it but tell you where you may be thinking of, you may be thinking of that walk that goes towards the erm... adventure park... at the other side of Buckfastleigh.
[Margaret:] No it wasn't, it was in here in the grounds of erm... Dartington.
[Terence:] We've sat here in the car and watched the erm... the birds down there....
[Margaret:] I'm wondering whether it was erm... one ti er we, we walked up a hill and the... the erm sculpture was sort of up on a hill.
[Terence:] There's a railway line down there you see.
[Margaret:] Yeah.... Funny isn't it?... Have to ask Christopher if he knows.... I can't think of how we got in.... Th there's that but that looks fairly
[Terence:] That's very new, yes....
[Margaret:] There's a bridge somewhere, do you know a bridge anywhere here?... Funny isn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah it is funny....
[Margaret:] I, I have got a sort of vague feeling that... maybe it wasn't with you we walked along it, maybe it was Christopher and Amanda.... This is all the college... buildings isn't it?...
[Terence:] There's Park Road there, now I've never been down there Well I d
[Margaret:] Gallery and
[Terence:] Now I've just seen traffic a long way down here, leading to Ella Park and Warren Lane, now I, I've... never been along here and I don't know but I... c coming up the road I saw cars down here
[Margaret:] ... car park for residents only.
[Terence:] And that's no through road there, obviously.... Well there's no point in going through here then like that....
[Margaret:] He's turning right as well.......
[Terence:] Cos we can get out here I think.
[Margaret:] Oh is this the...
[Terence:] This is the car park.
[Margaret:] Oh this is the car park is it?
[Terence:] Well this is the car park for Dartington College but you can get out through here.
[Margaret:] Yeah. Oh well here's the college that I saw
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] art and design, up there somewhere, yeah.... office... Department of Art and Design. Cos Sue might well be coming there.
[Terence:] Oh I should think it's more than likely....
[Margaret:] cottages.... All these sleeping policemen they've got.
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] I suppose with all the students... wandering about... pedestrians... Yes I wonder where that was cos I'm sure there was a Henry Moore sculpture....
[Terence:] Oh there's a Henry Moore sculpture in the grounds
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] Dartington.
[Margaret:] Well there, it was there
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] that we walked to
[Terence:] The river, but then I don't know the walk
[Margaret:] No we sort of
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] we walked up
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] to the... like a field... but we were near to the river when we saw the erm
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] salmon....
[Terence:] Now... can I get to the... no I can't get to it there, through there can I? No....
[Margaret:] Oh so you knew about the Henry Moore statue there?
[Terence:] Well... I then remembered that we'd seen it and it's in the grounds.
[Margaret:] Yeah well er you see this was in the grounds at Dartington
[Terence:] Mm. Mm.
[Margaret:] as I said.
[Terence:] But it's that side away from the river, you know, I... I can't link it with the river.
[Margaret:] Well y we walked
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] like er... it would be a sort of
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] hill like that, a grassy place.... suppose they've still got quite a bit of... own a lot of... put plants up there... and there.... 's quality meat, my goodness they're still going strong....
[Terence:] Gosh, lot of cars parked here for Dartington.
[Margaret:] ... daffodils out yet.... on the left
[Terence:] Oh yes....
[Margaret:] There... or here.
[Terence:] Well there's one, two further along actually, so
[Margaret:] ... Bet there are plenty up there. Well there's certainly one there and one there... and one there... depends on which way they like to get in... like to get in that door...
[speaker009:] Excuse me, do you know if this is the only entrance into this place cos we left our car in a car park and we
[Terence:] There are three car parks
[speaker009:] Ah
[Terence:] there's one there... that's the first level... there's this one... and there's a third one up there.
[speaker009:] And that's all, there's nothing...
[Terence:] No there's nothing down that way as far as I know.
[speaker009:] Okay, it must be one of these then. Okay
[Terence:] It's one of these, yes. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Thanks very much.
[Terence:] Erm i i i that's the first one you come to, that one.
[speaker009:] N no, we went into about the second or third I think, is there one up there one up there
[Terence:] Well that's the second and that's the third
[speaker009:] So we can get to it by going up this way.
[Terence:] Or you can go up that way, yes but I mean if you, you know, you can walk through to make sure you're not there if you want, but you can go up, that's the way
[speaker009:] Yeah. Let me check this way then
[Terence:] to to it.
[speaker009:] Okay, thanks very much for your help.
[Terence:] Alright?...
[Margaret:] It is a bit awkward isn't it?
[Terence:] Oh when you've lost your car park.
[Margaret:] See if they can't find it
[Terence:] Yeah well they don't think it was they don't think it was the first one, no.... No mm...
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Now
[Margaret:] Now where was that shop?
[Terence:] Well is it here? Oh yeah it's Food you want isn't it? So it's up here further....
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Yeah. Now what's in here? Is this it?... Well there's, see look there's herbs and things here you see look.
[Margaret:] Oh right....
[Terence:] I mean it may be further up.
[Margaret:] No this is probably it.... Celery seeds, I was looking for some of those yesterday.
[Terence:] What?
[Margaret:] Celery seeds. I know I've got some but I don't know where....
[Terence:] Dill tops.
[Margaret:] What?
[Terence:] I see dill tops, rosemary...
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] Rosemary I go out to the garden for.
[Terence:] Mm yes you do don't do? Mm.... Certainly some mixed scents here aren't there?
[Margaret:] Lovely aren't they?... Erm...
[Terence:] You can get aniseed here. [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Do you want some aniseed?...
[Terence:] Yes....
[Margaret:] I
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Casserole mix, mm.
[Margaret:] Is that them?
[Terence:] Is that what you wanted?
[Margaret:] Think so....
[Terence:] It's dear.
[Margaret:] What?
[Terence:] Homemade orange ground rice cake... two pounds twenty.
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Terence:] So how much would your sponge make?
[Margaret:] ... sixteen pence?
[Terence:] Yeah.... Dear.... Homemade chocolate Victoria sandwich... two pound twenty.
[Margaret:] Yeah....
[Terence:] Marmalade buns...
[Margaret:] They look quite nice, how much are they?...
[Terence:] Well I don't know, is that... I don't think that's thirty eight is it?... Probably thirty eight pence each I should think.... Mm Well I know, well that's twenty three...
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Terence:] Pigeon and bacon pies.
[Margaret:] meat on there. Doubt it do you?
[Terence:] I shouldn't think so.
[Margaret:] Minced beef and... four times this year.
[Terence:] Oh yeah.
[speaker009:] What would you like?
[Margaret:] Wha what variety do you want?
[Terence:] Maple and walnut, strawberry, chocolate
[Margaret:] I think I'll have the
[Terence:] toffee.
[Margaret:] I'll have toffee, yes!
[Terence:] Apricot and vanilla.
[Margaret:] Big enough toffee! Oh!
[speaker009:] is very unpleasant.
[Margaret:] Yes, well it might be.
[speaker009:] Are they?
[Margaret:] Erm....
[speaker009:] It's very soft that one, you'll find.
[Margaret:] Thank you.
[Terence:] I'll have a maple and walnut please?... They seem to be the favourites don't they? [LAUGHTER] The []
[speaker009:] They have been over the past few days... erm... usually it was chocolate and apricot. So flavours do change.
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Flavour of the month.
[Margaret:] That's right.
[speaker009:] That's one forty please?
[Terence:] Thank you.
[speaker009:] Thank you.
[Margaret:] Oh! Mine's lovely! I could have a lick of yours though... couldn't I?
[speaker009:] Three sixty change.
[Terence:] Thanks very much!
[speaker009:] Thank you.
[Terence:] Okay love?
[Margaret:] Well, I've got a now!
[Terence:] Well that's, that's what I meant if we were make them
[Margaret:] That's the, that's why. Plenty of at home.... [LAUGHTER] I was going out the other way []!... Is that the one you're gonna do?
[Terence:] Yeah.... Mm! Lavender.
[Margaret:] rosemary isn't it?
[Terence:] Lavender.... Oh I dunno! Perhaps it is rosemary! But are there, you don't get this with rosemary do you?
[Margaret:] Oh it's lavender!
[Terence:] Yeah, so I thought.
[Margaret:] Just stand here for a minute and eat your ice cream.... Oh, don't tell me that I shouldn't have this!
[Terence:] Why not? It's cor!
[Margaret:] Why not!... There's a lot of people here!
[Terence:] Mm?
[Margaret:] Quite a lot of people.
[Terence:] There are a lot of people here!
[Margaret:] Oh that's.
[Terence:] Difficult to tell [LAUGHTER] isn't it []?
[Margaret:] Mm?
[Terence:] Difficult to tell!
[Margaret:] Oh it's very, some places are so noisy!... Some old dears coming out bleeding apathy!
[Terence:] Ooh I know!
[Margaret:] What's yours like?
[Terence:] Very nice!
[Margaret:] They got a... fire burning there or something, look!
[Terence:] Yeah. [cough] It is isn't it? Probably in the restaurant.
[Margaret:] Mm.... Mm!
[Terence:] It breaks doesn't it?
[Margaret:] their rates it's because they are paying that's all!
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Phoned up to see how much he'd charge me.... It says Maggi for Men.
[Terence:] Pardon?
[Margaret:] It says Maggi for Men.
[Terence:] Maggi for Men! Oh!
[Margaret:] Phoned up. I'm not sure if that is... this.
[Terence:] Yeah, I think it is by the looks of things.
[Margaret:] Oh, I'll ta I'll take mine through cos they'll surely... stuff
[Terence:] Yes it is, yeah.
[Margaret:] around there, no?
[Terence:] Well, that's it anyhow.... Like the, I mean that doesn't really bear any resemblance to that but it's obviously the way.... Mm.
[speaker009:] Well would you like one now?
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Do you both want
[Margaret:] Well
[speaker009:] one?
[Margaret:] that's alright, no.... You see how they... the cucumbers over there.
[Terence:] No.... Have half a dozen of those floating around in the garden.
[Margaret:] Sorry?
[Terence:] Say, have a dozen of those floating around the garden.
[Margaret:] Yeah, they're nice actually!
[Terence:] Well yeah I su I suppose there must be! Mm.
[Margaret:] No, I said do you want to?
[Terence:] Yes!
[Margaret:] Well!... Have some stuff. Well do you want to go into the fashion shop?... I wouldn't... buy the stuff in in here whilst. You know for a... Christmas decoration.
[speaker009:] They always get chopped down.
[Terence:] Oh I don't think you can walk here!
[Margaret:] We'll have to. Yes.
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] You can go upstairs in here.
[Terence:] Probably, yes.
[Margaret:] Say, the toilets
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] ... It's......
[Terence:] Sorry!
[speaker009:] Sorry! I know you're not allowed.
[Terence:] Oh green that er
[Margaret:] Oh no, look I was saying there are no primroses out yet!
[Terence:] Oh yes! There are, yeah!
[Margaret:] Yes! Mm. I noticed the green as we crossed
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] up there.... Oh just look at the... honeysuckle.
[Terence:] Yes!
[Margaret:] I think that's good, cos we've got that.
[Terence:] Is it?
[Margaret:] You go there and have a look at... and snowdrops in it as well!
[Terence:] Oh yes! There a lot more over there look!
[Margaret:] Oh yes! It's lovely!... Beautiful! Ever so many here as well
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] just coming out.
[speaker009:] You really crossing roads. I'll have a go.
[Terence:] What do you say?
[Margaret:] The... fish... thing.
[Terence:] Oh yes, there's a lot there look!
[Margaret:] Yeah. Here it comes. Okay. Shall we just look in here and then we'll have for lunch?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] What's the time?
[Terence:] Time? Ooh! Ten past three.
[speaker009:] Ten past three?
[Terence:] Ah.
[speaker009:] right, you're going up there. Yes. La la la la! All the way. Mind the!
[Terence:] Special designs
[Margaret:] A special design.
[Terence:] available o in request for so many other designs in stock.
[speaker009:] Mm.
[Margaret:] That's er the design you want
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] isn't it?
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Yo when will you be able to see them better!
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] That's four ninety five for that....
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Suppose an unusual
[Terence:] Yeah. Well that's a... sort of erm... water based isn't it?
[Margaret:] Yes! Mm!... No.... And that's where they
[Terence:] And that's where they do the
[Margaret:] do the pots.
[Terence:] so, mm.... Oh yeah! Pardon?
[Margaret:] The water is a bit dirty looking isn't it?
[Terence:] Yes, it is isn't it? Although you can still see through it.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Probably just the bottom that's dirty. And you can
[Margaret:] They're going to the I gather.
[Terence:] Obviously! [LAUGHTER] Mm mm []!
[Margaret:] They've got a there as well.
[Terence:] Mm.... There's lots of these old sort of... posts... along here with these holes in them.
[Margaret:] Yeah. Almost looks as if they're gates or something.
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] They're big aren't they?
[Terence:] Mm!
[Margaret:] ... take
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] a nap is that about what you wanted?
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Margaret:] ... don't they?
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] It's only because of I know.
[Terence:] Perfect gentleman!
[Margaret:] Thank you.
[Terence:] See look at all those... cross pieces, they look as they've... been there for some purpose, you know? I mean these haven't just been put here, they've been there for a long time!
[Margaret:] Yes.
[Terence:] See look! You see there's original cross piece whatever it was!... You know, they're obviously cutting paths through
[Margaret:] Oh yes!
[Terence:] there.
[Margaret:] Or the erm... few blocks over there look!
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Then go right at the back again do you reckon?
[Terence:] I don't know. I don't know that's a... sort of a... proper path there. Er... well if it wa... if it was it would be very convenient cos it would probably come out on the car park but er
[Margaret:] That's the you say?
[Terence:] Yeah. Well we could try there.
[Margaret:] Well!... There's another one along here, look there!
[Terence:] Yeah. Look at all the erm... cars going up to those houses up there look!
[Margaret:] Yeah. Gosh yes!
[Terence:] Well do you want to walk back along here and see whether... or do you want to walk a little further along here?
[Margaret:] Well I don't mind just a little bit. Well... we could always sit on the seat when we come back. If I'm
[Terence:] Mhm.
[Margaret:] exhausted.... We'll probably get and... having to walk along.
[Terence:] Well... perhaps we better not go down cos we shall have to
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] come up again shan't we?
[Margaret:] okay yes. [LAUGHTER] That's right []! Right, well we'll go back.... We can't walk...
[Terence:] Well we could go, go along there, I dunno, go along here and see whether it comes out.... No I don't think so.
[Margaret:] No.
[Terence:] Go down.
[speaker009:] Dad! That's right here. Look! You have to wait here. up to the and across there. What? Up here towards dad. Alright.
[Margaret:] There we are!
[speaker009:] Oh! He's got quite a job hasn't he?
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Terence:] Yes I know. The weir there!
[Margaret:] Must go right up to the edge.
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Look at them then!
[Terence:] Yeah. Mm.... Yes. It's all very nice!
[Margaret:] Sorry?
[Terence:] Said it's all very nice! There's a bunch of daffodils up there actually in the, yeah.
[Margaret:] Oh yeah! Whe what, where you was
[Terence:] Whe, that's where I was, yeah. Thinks... what were these do you know?
[speaker009:] They were leet hangers. They used to carry leets.
[Terence:] Oh did they? Yeah, that's, oh!
[speaker009:] Yeah. Well that's what they told me anyway.
[Terence:] Yeah, well that's, that makes sense doesn't it? Yes.
[speaker009:] Yes, they seem just about level
[Terence:] That's right. Yeah.
[speaker009:] for the the... mill.
[Terence:] Down to the mill of course. Yeah.
[speaker009:] Yes.
[Terence:] Oh thanks.
[speaker009:] more flour and
[Terence:] That's right, yes.
[speaker009:] free, free flour.
[Terence:] Ha.
[Margaret:] Yes, it's amazing isn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah.... Wha
[Margaret:] And he said... leets... what you're hanging something on them?
[Terence:] No, if he er, it'd be a, a wooden trough with water.
[Margaret:] Oh!
[Terence:] It'd be a leet... and it carried the water.
[Margaret:] Oh I see, yes!
[Terence:] You see? Erm, in fact... further down there you've got the leet on the ground going down to where the waterwheel is.
[Margaret:] Oh I see, yes. Mhm.
[Terence:] And er, but this must have been a leet that came haf, from higher you see?
[Margaret:] Yes. Yes. Oh! So, would there
[Terence:] You know.
[Margaret:] be other ones that are going, going up there?
[Terence:] Well ha, we saw higher up, we saw the
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] th the carriers you see.
[Margaret:] They've got daffs er, coming here you know, see?
[Terence:] Oh that's right yeah. l Good morning!... [sighing] Oh []!
[speaker009:] Alright? Thank you very much indeed! Thanks. Bye! Thank you. Bye bye then!
[Terence:] Thank you!
[speaker009:] Hello.
[Terence:] Have you any erm... stamps?
[speaker009:] First class or second class sir?
[Terence:] Second class.
[speaker009:] Yes.
[Terence:] Five please.
[speaker009:] Right. Certainly! I'll get those for you.... Give that gentleman his paper. There you are.
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] Lovely! Thank you very much! Thanks Mr. Five seconds my love.
[Terence:] That'll do.
[speaker009:] Let's see what we've got, ooh I dunno if I've got, ooh yes I have! Yes I have! That'll be ninety pence won't it? Five tens are
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] fifty, five eights are forty, ninety pence. Good job I learnt my tables when I was at school!
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... There's a lot that don't do it these days!
[speaker009:] Well my son does. They're very hard at his school, we've always done them! It's very important!
[Terence:] It's ever so important!
[speaker009:] But, from an early age because without
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] tables you can't do multiplication,
[Terence:] It takes so, it takes so long to do everything you see.
[speaker009:] You can't do anything!
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] You know, and I mean where he used to go to school they didn't teach them them till they were ten! What the hell of a use is that!
[Terence:] No good at all!
[speaker009:] So I mean he is very, very good at his tables and... we bought one of those Early Learning... tapes when he was quite young that you sing
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] to.
[Terence:] Mm.
[speaker009:] And I always learnt mine parrot fashion using
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] sticks.
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] And then we... got a table tester... to help them refresh their memories, it's like a disc and then you got the slots and then it tells you your eight times and that's good as well but... I mean he's got them off by heart which is brilliant!
[Terence:] Well it it saves so much time as well you see because and you get on so much quicker with everything!
[speaker009:] Well absolutely! And I mean, fortunately he is very good at his maths and he's quick at his sums and things because he knows his tables. There's erm
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] so much difference!
[Terence:] Well I've got, I pu put a program on, I've got a computer and I
[speaker009:] Oh yes!
[Terence:] put a program on the computer... for maths
[speaker009:] Oh right!
[Terence:] and it's er... it's erm... it's a table program... amongst others, adding
[speaker009:] Oh that's good!
[Terence:] and subtraction and multiplication.
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] But, you know they can pick it and er, it just flashes up and they have to put the right answer in, if they get the right answer it it goes on to the next one, if it
[speaker009:] Oh that's good!
[Terence:] get the wrong answer
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] then i it says no that's wrong! Sorry la... whatever he name is that
[speaker009:] What age group is that for then?
[Terence:] Well this is really for anybody learning the tables. But, primarily it's it's it's, you know... top end of the primary school.
[speaker009:] Oh it sounds good!
[Terence:] But you co could go on, I mean if you if they don't know it you can still use it when they get to secondary school.
[speaker009:] What computer is that then?
[Terence:] Oh it's er, it's erm
[speaker009:] B B C or
[Terence:] It's a Tandy actually, it's one I had
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] given me... about eight
[speaker009:] Right.
[Terence:] years ago. So, and it's an old one actually
[speaker009:] Oh!
[Terence:] but I've put, put my own program so that the
[speaker009:] Ah! That's a good idea!
[Terence:] But how old is your
[speaker009:] He's nearly ten. Yeah. Nearly ten. But he has,we we've only got, my husband's got a computer at work, we just got one of the Segas, the master systems you know that you you got th the games that you put in those... but he wants to get another one next year... but that's a good idea something like that! Should be very good for schools I would think, wouldn't it?
[Terence:] Well, yes of course, I mean I, the schools have got programs I mean you can, you know... they er
[speaker009:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Terence:] Da ta... for it.
[speaker009:] Yes. But that's, I think that's a brilliant idea actually! Because where he goes is a smaller school where they go... and erm... I think something like that is nice for them to actually
[Terence:] Where does he go?
[speaker009:] He goes to a school in the Tene Valley, it's a teacher that, he used to go to Exeter school and the teacher's opened her own school... and, only for lo a small time and then she's opening up actually in Exeter but this is an in between and she's a very good teacher!
[Terence:] That's great, you see!
[speaker009:] And you see she's bringing him on very well!
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] I mean there's only a few kids there, they're all good mates and it's like private tuition. But, I
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] mean you pay for it, course you do but then
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] on the ar, we well you know we've paid for his education since he was seven because he wasn't doing anything at primary school! Half the teachers le left them doing nothing!
[Terence:] It's a shame really!
[speaker009:] Yeah! Yeah! But er... you know, and it would have been such a waste cos he's bright. But that he was always naughty! They used to write back and they said he was always being sent out and I said that's because he's bored! He couldn't be bothered... you see. And how many more children slip through the net that way?
[Terence:] That's right.
[speaker009:] It's very true. An and so we we said right, that's it! We'll have to get him out and... pay for it and it's... worked total dividends! I mean he's very good at... maths. They say maths and science are his strength subjects well I'd never have known that if he was still over there! I was just told he was a... a fair average. You know? Erm can I have sixteen of those there? How many darling? Sixteen. They're two each, you know that do you? Oh! I'll have Yeah they're two each my love. Er, then I'll You can have ten can't you? If you've got twenty. Erm... Yeah I'll have ten of them then. Cos you got twenty for your crisps then haven't you? Yeah. And erm Right. Yeah Are those all one P? Yeah, all those my love are one P. Erm I'll have... erm... yeah, ten of those. Er These ones? Yeah I'll have erm... twelve of those. One, two, three, four, five, six... ten... twelve! Right, so what have we got there? We got thirty two and twenty, should have fifty two? And that's what you got innit? Here's your crisps. Here are love. There's your. Alright? Fifty two, thank you love!
[Terence:] That's my allowance.
[speaker009:] Mm?
[Terence:] That's my allowance!
[speaker009:] Oh!
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]... No I wa I'm I've I
[speaker009:] You haven't got a number or something I could always go in and ask his teacher she's never interested in... if you've got a... a tape or anything. I mean if you do know sort of
[Terence:] Yeah! Erm... I mean this is only a er... this is only a sort of a a wa a program I've built myself
[speaker009:] Oh!
[Terence:] but I mean, you know, yeah I mean it's erm
[speaker009:] If you have just, you know, drop it in
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] in cos it's always handy to give to her because she's... she's looking for... you know, I mean, sort of you know different things all the time and she's got various One of those? Twelve ninety five? teachers that... that come and help and erm No not one of them cos they're frozen! they've got one of the teachers from the old school who's very good at maths and erm geography You can have these Jelly Tots. and... erm... games. And erm, she's very good! She's a good all-rounder and she's good! Or you could have a Milky Bar? Or a fudge? But I mean I'm so pleased with it! Could have some fruit gums? I mean, I've noticed that just
[Terence:] Yeah, it's great isn't it?
[speaker009:] Well Want some Fruit Gums? you know er, I mean we went only about ago. Fruit Pastilles? Thank you my love. Fruit gums as well there. Yes! First or second my love? Oh! Erm first. Don't you ask for it? That's That's mine! That's twenty four. I have to take that one separately though Yeah. for the stamp is that alright? They are to take granddad's this afternoon. You're not eating them now!
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Oh yes! Thank you very much indeed. Yeah. Mummy I've seen daddy in there! Mm. Fifty five change. Put it on the shelf again please? Yep! Okay? Thank you very much! Hello there! What have you got today? You've gotta have day today. Five, that's twenty two. Here are, twenty two! Seventy pence! Thank you very much indeed! In fact they're so espe. Right. Cheers!... Thirty change my love! Thank you Thanks. very much!
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] Yeah. Very
[Terence:] Mm.
[speaker009:] handy to know! Did he need a bit of help with his... I mean a lot of them did made them that sort of I just found a lot of was so... so... behind and so
[Terence:] I it's i, I'm terribly sad that it happens, but it shouldn't happen, you see!
[speaker009:] And the thing is I found, also, it was
[Terence:] Ge da bo to to
[speaker009:] what what I found
[Terence:] serve this dear lady! [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] What is the, tomorrow will do! It's the wrong, it's wrong you see it makes... no discipline and the staff Er er just bringing you work then! They should of had. Now that's sixty one isn't it? Yes my dear! , much better? Oh twenty she's alright thank you. Well I. Oh right! Yeah they say oh yes she's alright! Alright! Yeah, cos it's usually a Friday, they do mess me about! It's not right is it? Course it isn't! We'll have to complain Is it? to the management! [LAUGHTER] Fifty, sixty one []! Thank you dear. [LAUGHTER] Oh well it's nearly pay day we'll see isn't it?
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER] Thank you love. oh I shan't
[Terence:] Somebody didn't even know... how many months there were in the year!
[speaker009:] I know! I can imagine!
[Terence:] You know?
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] And days in the year is, is a
[speaker009:] I know!
[Terence:] is a closed book!
[speaker009:] I used to help them there... and one of the teachers... oh my God! I used to help with sticking the... the er money onto the... well this used to take about, you know, an hour all these kids didn't know what two pence was, didn't know what twenty pence was and... ten pence and fifty pence and then we, they were in go about groups of seven and we get all this done then it would be assembly, then it'll be games and then that'll be it for the whole morning! And I said what have they learnt?
[Terence:] Nothing!
[speaker009:] What have they done? And then she would listen to them read, well... this is what they finished with... they'd have a book and they'd take it up and she'd listen to one line! How can you tell how er fluent a child is with it, with their reading
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] and their, and their word knowledge by one line on a book? There is no way! And it was just reading, listen to, go and pick what books they wanted to.
[Terence:] If they wanted to!
[speaker009:] If they wanted to!
[Terence:] Yeah! Yeah! That's right!
[speaker009:] And i and my lad would bring home all these damn great big books that he couldn't read! So I used to buy erm... I used buy a lot of er the Meg and Mogs cos I found that they sort of helped him. I mean, I was brought up on Janet and John, you know
[Terence:] Well it's great!
[speaker009:] But it was a number, you wrote down the one you wanted to
[Terence:] Yep! And
[speaker009:] the
[Terence:] it's progression!
[speaker009:] by your word knowledge!
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] And erm... wha what happened was we had Martin er assessed by an independent tutor, a guy that teaches and he erm... gave him some tutoring with maths, like probably Yes and he said... he's very bright! He said but unfortunately... because he's boisterous, which he is... and because it's easier for them with their numbers to let him just get away with it or... say oh Martin go outside we can't, you know, then then he wasn't... learning to
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] his full capacity. So where he is now, they really stretch them but they unwind them in the afternoons by games and and
[Terence:] That's it.
[speaker009:] and, you know
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] dra, and drama
[Terence:] That's right! and... er as it should be done. And he's getting on very well. Because he went to Little Abbotsbury Prep School and at the age of four... I mean, he could read and read quite well actually, and erm write... very well actually! And do lots of things that I knew he was capable of doing. And I learnt from various teachers that when you go to these private schools and they've been to schools, they hold them back... because they like, they don't like the They don't like somebody
[speaker009:] No. They
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] they, they like
[Terence:] it it it upsets the system! Yep!
[speaker009:] But like there and be all the same and that really upset me! And I thought my God you know we've got him really on this far
[Terence:] That's right! And then it gets held back!
[speaker009:] and then he played in the afternoons! And I... i, you know at six and I said my God... he did that at Abbotsbury when he was four!
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] And so,i I mean it was to me it was a total waste of time over there! I'll be honest with you.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] And I live so near
[Terence:] I know!
[speaker009:] that damn school it really, I thought
[Terence:] It's a shame because years ago when Miss what was her
[speaker009:] Miss.
[Terence:] Miss... and they had a lovely violin group there... and
[speaker009:] But it's down to head though isn't it?
[Terence:] I mean
[speaker009:] You know?
[Terence:] and you know, and it was tremendous!
[speaker009:] Thank you love.
[Terence:] But i it's a shame because you see it's, it's really down to the... a lot of the advisory staff and erm... yo your teacher training colleges because there was a period when, I mean, I was always very formal I mean I, I, you know
[speaker009:] I think it's the right
[Terence:] you've got to work and and... th
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] we had exams and... you know?
[speaker009:] That's right!
[Terence:] Er, it was... er re
[speaker009:] And the three R's! Which are so important!
[Terence:] Course they are! Vitally important! But, towards the end, before I retired... erm... a lot of the staff didn't like what I was doing... because I was still, you know,ant... and the advisor would come in and say you know, you should do it,yo yo you know, it's too strict!
[speaker009:] There was that chap that was sacked up the country wasn't he?
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] He was there being pushed out
[Terence:] Same sort of thing you see!
[speaker009:] because you see they didn't
[Terence:] But things are beginning
[speaker009:] Yeah, that's right!
[Terence:] to go back you see.
[speaker009:] But you see it won't help my lad! Or doesn't help.
[Terence:] No, that's right! That's right!
[speaker009:] It may, I mean i in the next decade it may help those but it, you see
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] that's why we had to get him out because it wasn't gonna help him!
[Terence:] That's it!
[speaker009:] And this new curriculum at seven
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] was gonna do nothing for
[Terence:] No.
[speaker009:] him!
[Terence:] My er my son, one of my so Yes, erm... on the other hand there are some there are some very good comprehensive schools!
[speaker009:] Oh yes!
[Terence:] I mean you can't, you can't erm
[speaker009:] Thank you. Thank you love.
[Terence:] There's some very bad grammar schools!
[speaker009:] Yeah, I agree with you.
[Terence:] You know, again as you said earlier on it all comes down in the end to the head!
[speaker009:] You see we've had some very good reports, I mean that went through a very bad patch but they've this new Doctor Colin... he's meant to be pretty switched on
[Terence:] Mm.
[speaker009:] and erm they say, you know it's it's... turning into a very good school! So that's one possibility to look at. But... I mean a a grammar doesn't suit every child does it? Some kids... erm er, you know.
[Terence:] No it doesn't, you see. I mean I yo, I would always say, you know if a child was borderline
[speaker009:] Mm.
[Terence:] If there was a doubt then he would be better not going to a grammar school
[speaker009:] Mm.
[Terence:] because he would be at the top end of the other school
[speaker009:] That's right! That is exactly that!
[Terence:] and then success breeds success!
[speaker009:] That's right! That's right.
[Terence:] Erm... whereas
[speaker009:] Right.
[Terence:] er the same child goes to the grammar school, he's in the C stream, he's at bottom
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] at the end and they perhaps don't bother quite so much... and
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] he, he drops back, he gets
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] further and further and further behind.
[speaker009:] Yeah. Now I found that, you see, cos I passed my eleven plus and I lived in Hampshire and the grammar school was Hampshire Grammar School for Girls, which was quite a long way away from where I lived and it would have entailed a bus and the train and I... and there was only me that passed and I, I didn't wanna do it. So I went to a very good secondary school but I was in the A one stream... right the way through... and I was always within that top three of that A one stream and it gave me confidence and I really got on. And I never regretted not going.
[Terence:] No. That's right.
[speaker009:] You know a lot of people said to me oh how stupid! To my mum, you know... she's passed, you're daft, but... there'd have been so much hassle for me to get there!
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] And I didn't feel confident, and I wasn't happy within
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] myself and my mum said if you're not, then you don't
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] wanna go.
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] And that's how I felt about
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] it, I didn't... and I felt I'd have no friends around where I lived and... you know, I'd always be alienated, I'd always be home later... and I said to my mum I don't think I can cope with it, so she said right then you don't go! And I didn't. And I never regretted it, I'll be quite honest with you. And I think lots of children probably feel that way.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] And
[Terence:] That's right!
[speaker009:] you know. But it's
[Terence:] Ha!
[speaker009:] nice talking to someone about education cos I talk to some people and they think I'm crackers cos I took my kid out of a state school! You know?
[Terence:] Ya, I I, I'm only sorry that you felt you
[speaker009:] Yeah that
[Terence:] had to! And I'm sorry
[speaker009:] I am!
[Terence:] the fact that you had to!
[speaker009:] I am!
[Terence:] Erm but I, you know I think that's... that, that's an indictment of it you see because I
[speaker009:] Oh it's cost us an arm and a leg! It really has!
[Terence:] Yeah sure!
[speaker009:] An and it's... what makes me so cross as I walk past that blinking school every day and you think my kid should be over there!
[Terence:] That's it!
[speaker009:] That's just... the way I feel
[Terence:] Yeah I know it's sad isn't it?
[speaker009:] Do you know what I mean?
[Terence:] Yeah I do. I do know what you
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Terence:] mean and I think it's, it's, it's a shame! It's awful really!
[speaker009:] when I speak about it I get so upset that they've got three or four and they can't!
[Terence:] And that's right!
[speaker009:] You see.
[Terence:] You can't!
[speaker009:] And there, lots of people and and lots of them actually they came from Abbotsbury and that all their kids were doing so well and then this period of a year, nothing! No progress! No!
[Terence:] I know! Well
[speaker009:] You know! Nice to talk to you
[Terence:] See you again.
[speaker009:] again. Bye bye!
[Terence:] Bye bye! Erm... lady in the... Post Office
[Margaret:] Eh?
[Terence:] You know that new... one that's in there?
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] She's ever so nice! Th the the
[Margaret:] Oh yeah.
[Terence:] But er... I don't know how we got onto it... er sh and I think she said something about oh, she knew her tables
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] and erm... you know, she'd come from Hampshire apparently and she... an an yo you know, er we got talking about ma and she's taken her child away from the local school... and sen, is now going to a little private school up... the Tin Valley, near Tingrace apparently. Fra [talking on telephone] Good morning. Yes. I it's erm... Monsignor, that's right, I recognized your voice. [LAUGHTER]... Yeah. Yes.... Right.... Would you hold on a moment I'll just get Margaret to the phone cos she really deals with the bookings... hold on a second! Monsignor. He wants the hall... Ma March the twenty sixth I think. I i he's got... to... organize meetings for priests... to deal with the new accounting system.
[Margaret:] [talking on telephone] Hello Monsignor! Yes, I'm just looking and March the twenty sixth is free. The twenty second, the Friday? Yes, that's fine that's... that's free. [LAUGHTER] I'm a... large friend []! [LAUGHTER]... Okay then, what time? What time? Six thirty. And... obviously you want go in a little bit before that just in case somebody comes. Yeah. Mm mm. Yes. Fine. [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER]... Is that so? [LAUGHTER]... And we have got, I must tell you, I don't know if you've been, and win, we have got it in the hall... I don't know if you've been in recently but... ha we have got some new chairs! [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] Is that so []? No, no, no, no, no, no... they may be functional but they look better! [LAUGHTER]... Right. I, right away Monsignor! Right. Six thirty, twenty second. Lovely! Yes, bye bye. God bless!
[Terence:] Of March is that?
[Margaret:] Yes.... When you in Newton Abbot leads... all the rest of us follow. That's what he said. He, that's what I, what I used to say when I was there! [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Oh! Ha! Gracious!
[Margaret:] Now... six fifteen... Monsignor.... It's a meeting of parish priests. And.... Ah! Right!... And they want it open a little bit earlier because erm... you know, in case anybody comes. What does he, Botham opening big trumps
[Terence:] Hicks is hoax.
[Margaret:] Hoax. Er, what does that mean do you think?
[Terence:] Well it means that if... if Botham does open then the only place for Hicks is in the middle taking Lamb's place so when Lamb comes back
[Margaret:] He'll be out.
[Terence:] he might not have a place. There's one here about British Gas... complaints about British Gas rose a hundred and thirty four percent last year according to the recent Offgas report. [reading newspaper] In one case a Leeds man received a quarterly bill for more than three thousand pounds... after British Gas engineers fitted his new meter back to front []!
[Margaret:] Very funny!
[Terence:] Good gracious! [reading newspaper] Times may be tough but it seems we're taking less care of our money than ever before. According to the Royal Mint around twenty three thousand pounds of coins a day disappear! Some is taken home by tourist and some is lost in the street and down the backs of sofas. But amazingly we are just as careless when it comes to bank notes. Last November the old style fiver with the Duke of Wellington was withdrawn yet there are still sixty million missing []!
[Margaret:] You can understand sort of you know,th the coppers and that that... as they say get down behind sofas and what have you... but erm... it is quite amazing... where notes get to isn't it?
[Terence:] Sixty million's a lot isn't it?
[Margaret:] Yes.
[Terence:] That's quite interesting that! There's a mutilated notes department as well that you can... send really... screwed up notes to.
[Margaret:] Yeah. Haven't you heard before about that then? But how I know, that's what somebody told me. to send... some notes in
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] you know, put them in the washing machine. They... they have in there... and they take out bank notes and coins from the washing machine. But, so long as you first. Erm
[Terence:] Oh that's right, well the they detail here exactly what you need to have.
[Margaret:] But, you know, that's how I knew there was a department somewhere because they do
[Terence:] I think... just, if you've got the number you can take it into an ordinary bank.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Amazing!... [sighing] Yeah []!... Yes, I know how we got talking to this... girl in the Post Office cos I erm... I asked her for some stamps as well, you see, I wanted some... cos I happen to be sending stuff of for Germany... tomorrow. And I haven't got any second class stamps so I thought well I'll get five... and it was, you know, dealing with that that erm
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] it cropped up.
[Margaret:] You didn't say anything about school did you?
[Terence:] Oh no, no!
[Margaret:] But, I mean that's why... Victor came away wasn't it?
[Terence:] That's right. She was really upset about it.
[Margaret:] Bet you were surprised to hear Monsignor on the phone weren't you?
[Terence:] I was, yeah!
[Margaret:] I've I, when I heard you saying... you recognized his voice I thought to myself well perhaps he's sort of inviting you to er, whatever!
[Terence:] Oh aye!
[Margaret:] ... and they were going to be here.
[Terence:] Yeah, I never thought of that. No, I, it was just that I, you know, I mean he... I recognized the voice really as he spoke.
[Margaret:] Yes, distinctive.
[Terence:] Got a very
[Margaret:] Oh yes!
[Terence:] very distinctive voice hasn't he?... It's still only half past nine so that's not bad!
[Margaret:] What?
[Terence:] I said it's still only half past nine, so that's not bad!
[Margaret:] Have you gotta get any milk... this morning?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] I'm gonna put this French... this is a little French thing that soma er... we brought back.
[Terence:] Oh!... Oh you'll have to charge them francs for it.
[Margaret:] But then we'd be looking for... francs. And shra, oh you said francs didn't you?
[Terence:] Yeah.... Yes, I, the birds don't half have a go at those nuts don't they?
[Margaret:] Look at them, one, two, three... four, five on there!
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] You know?
[Terence:] Yeah. Yes there are.
[Margaret:] And the one on the left.
[Terence:] Yeah, that's right!
[Margaret:] And one there.
[Terence:] One, two... three, yeah.
[Margaret:] There's one at the back on that erm
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] hanging one. And one on the other one.
[Terence:] They're so busy around here! I mean, in the trees as well aren't they? They're always
[Margaret:] Yeah. Perhaps may it is because we've got all these trees I mean
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] was saying when she lived out at erm... cos I mean there were trees about there where their hou
[Terence:] That's right.
[Margaret:] But the nuts didn't come to her house.... Where has that come from?
[Terence:] Where's what come from?
[Margaret:] I'll put it on there. I can put it on there. It's alright! [LAUGHTER]... Well I knew I had caps on all the others.
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] But I had one over, as it were.
[Terence:] Suppose I mustn't really, I'm reading this morning. Let's have a look at that.... Well you always thought about going to the Beefeater a bu... really I suppose it might be better to go today than tomorrow. Cos today... Lucy will be here but... tomorrow... might be more difficult.
[Margaret:] Well
[Terence:] Erm... because I wouldn't sort of finished till... quarter pa I said to Kevin as he was talking, he came to help to wash up
[Margaret:] Yeah I let him erm
[Terence:] and er
[Margaret:] go and help you because I thought you know you might have a natter with him or something
[Terence:] he said, you on the finance committee? Oh he says no he says I'm no good at figures, I said well not alike except blonde ones I said you know cos he made he made a joke about a blonde you see just before that, anyway and I said I just wanted to, do you know who is on so he said oh he thinks is on and that must be the from
[Margaret:] That is that is the one that left the erm heater
[Terence:] That's it yeah, and erm I was erm Wally and Gordon and he thinks there's another couple you see, so I said well, you know, and I told him about the heater you see and he know, I said... when people sitting on their backsides in committee making decisions, I said, you know, I said it just makes me bloody well annoyed, he said I know he said they don't, they, they make the decisions and, but they don't do the nitty gritty, they you know
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] the person that has to implement these things they don't and I said
[Margaret:] These, none none of those would have the foggiest notion about it
[Terence:] About the hall
[Margaret:] about the hall, you see you, as I said to Kay, oh of course Kay has this you know on about this scouts but, she did say she did this that and the other thing as well you see, but there's nobody knows anything about the hall in its new state as you do
[Terence:] That's right
[Margaret:] I mean you don't
[Terence:] I mean I was asked to do it right from the word go wasn't I?
[Margaret:] And you dealt with the erm, the, the various taxes and whatnots.
[Terence:] That's right...
[Margaret:] As I said to Kay it's Terry that does all, he gets the money in, he pays all the bills, Muriel brings him the bills, I said he does all that apart from the fact I said he spent the whole day yesterday, the whole morning yesterday here clearing this, oh she said I did as well, erm you know help, I said what you, but as well as clearing stuff, I said he swept the hall, I said look how nice it looks this morning, I said and he did all the toilets and everything else I wonder who did then... and you see Sister makes all these arrangements, it's she who does so many of the arrangements, she has made the arrangements about there being no coffee, several people have come to me and said I don't know why you've got to stop coffee because we can always go over and have lunch anyway, you know, er after the coffee, but Jean came to me she said look I'm giving you this, and she gave me three pounds, she said I would much rather that was put into this, there your charity thing than take it across the hall, she said my Margaret won't go over there any more, because they, they say, you know, put in for your lunch what it would cost
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] to have a lunch out
[Terence:] if you don't go for a lunch out
[Margaret:] That's right, she said Margaret never goes, I said well we never go for lunch out, we hardly ever really
[Terence:] That's right
[Margaret:] erm she's got a family Margaret, she said she won't go there any more... she I, I don't know whether that er Jean does... so... Didn't she just cotton on quickly, [LAUGHTER] she said do you know that, I said why do I want anybody wandering in my house and my kitchen, I said it's a bit like it's clean, why should I have somebody sort of, well I mean just because I'm doing cooking, she said you wouldn't stop fancy one, you never know, she said well unless you want to stop at the, please don't, you'll let me still have your jam won't you?
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] So I said and she cottoned on what I had in mind... Michelle said to her well how will this sort of erm... what are you looking for?
[Terence:] Erm cheese
[Margaret:] Oh yes there's cheese there, how will this erm, yes of course there's there if you want to, have that with a biscuit or something, I said what about this then, erm everybody gonna be taking things to sell at the stalls but they what, I wonder what about that?... And that's true you see isn't it?
[Terence:] Yeah... well of course it's bureaucracy going barmy isn't it?... Really...
[Margaret:] another one of these for you for tomorrow, oh god, rest of it, oh it's only on the cloth it is dirty anyway
[Terence:] Another one of what?
[Margaret:] A bowl of soup
[Terence:] Oh
[Margaret:] you know, there, made another...
[Terence:] I mean the next thing they'd want to do is to come in and do in this kitchen before you do any cooking for yourself
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Terence:] I mean who knows, this soup may be erm
[Margaret:] Contaminated
[Terence:] contaminated
[Margaret:] Been in the fridge... this is there is room for soup, I'll put it in this one... there
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[Margaret:] Anyway... did you say there's only Lucy or is there Lucy this afternoon?
[Terence:] Lucy
[Margaret:] She is coming as far as you know?
[Terence:] Yeah...
[Margaret:] And that is quarter past four
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] her usual time
[Terence:] as far as I know, mm this is nice soup again
[Margaret:] Oh did really that chicken was jolly well worth it's wi weight wasn't it?
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] But, two good dinners we've had from it
[Terence:] That's right
[Margaret:] two lots of soup and there'll be, it won't be a full bowl for you tomorrow, but there'll be about half a bowl unless you want it now?
[Terence:] No... no, mm I have a word here belittle beginning with a D third letter from the end is an A, so I put depreciate
[Margaret:] Denigrate
[Terence:] but the third letter has got to be an S [LAUGHTER], as it turns out now the third letter's got to be an S
[Margaret:] I heard you say that as it turns out now
[Terence:] so, so it's wrong
[Margaret:] I wouldn't of thought denigrate was erm that's to belittle
[Terence:] Yeah I know
[Margaret:] No you don't really [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Well that's the same as denigrate I mean that's erm
[Margaret:] Sorry?
[Terence:] What I had was the sa same sort of
[Margaret:] delegate or something is it?... So it's E blank S
[Terence:] What's, what's that poker stake?
[Margaret:] What's that what?
[Terence:] Poker stake, a stake in a game of poker, it's got a special name, four letter word
[Margaret:] I don't know poker
[Terence:] I don't, but erm... Wonder where, wonder where the word penthouse came from?
[Margaret:] Surely it's with somebody you know, some connection with a prison or something, didn't it? I'm not up with the name of it
[Terence:] Oh no, no
[Margaret:] the name of a prison penthouse
[Terence:] Pentonville
[Margaret:] Pentonville, yeah
[Terence:] They're just an expensive flat and of course the answer's penthouse
[Margaret:] You just wonder where these words come from
[Terence:] That Holly the other day was saying... where do the names of the weeks come from
[Margaret:] And of course some of those
[Terence:] Some of those have got an origin I think Thursday is it's, it's got a thought isn't it, yeah?
[Margaret:] Got a thought, yeah, but erm Sunday has, what's that? Tuesday certainly has and Wednesday, Wednesday is woodens day god of war of Norway or somewhere or something like that, or it is sort of thunder
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] thunder isn't it?... Mm... No that's er making me jolly cross, not like myself I don't do anything like, not as much as I used to do at the hall, I mean I used to do a lot as you know, but I, I know how much you have done, but nobody else knows
[Terence:] Aha
[Margaret:] Kay said I know, I said Kay you couldn't begin to imagine what he does, and of course she said, and she had been doing that erm painting, Father came in and said something like oh you, you've done a good job there, but she said he never said oh go over to the kitchen and get a cup of tea
[Terence:] He just doesn't think you see because he
[Margaret:] But he never did actually
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] I mean that's typically Irish of course, Irish male... oh dear, dear
[Terence:] I suppose that could be a good argument for having married women priests.
[Margaret:] Well I often think there, there could be something for women priests because they would see the more practical things that had to be done...
[Terence:] Let's get this out of the way
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[Margaret:] I've bought that erm raspberry jam and some strawberry jam for us, I didn't realize that this would want replenishing as well
[Terence:] Oh the chocolate
[Margaret:] Chocolate, yes... But you see somebody I think it was erm what's his name? Erm what's his first name?
[Terence:] Who, Wally?
[Margaret:] He's a little, a little chappie who comes in, came in this morning
[Terence:] Les
[Margaret:] Les, yes, that's right
[Terence:] mm, mm
[Margaret:] erm, he said I don't know we've got to stop having the coffee, so I said well erm Sister had spoken [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Kay doesn't know why anyway, nor does erm Kevin and erm Denise...
[Terence:] So in other words it was an unilateral decision
[Margaret:] Oh yes, sister made it...
[Terence:] Well I mean we can always unmake it presumably... cos next week it will be, it'll be different time I expect won't it? A natter about ten I'd expect won't it next week?
[Margaret:] Er
[Terence:] yeah
[Margaret:] It's usually ten isn't it?... But I mean there's a Wed a Thursday night we could always of said you know meant it to be on Thursday... ours not to reason why... apparently erm Sister Josephine us, she went off by train to wherever it is she's gone, but will be coming back with another Sister in a car tomorrow
[Terence:] Oh
[Margaret:] so, do you know, I was thinking the other day, you know Sister Margaret we like her very much really don't
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] we, with this erm pressing
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] with her really, we never get the chance to, but she is always on her own, none of the other three, if you look, never
[Terence:] No
[Margaret:] sit near her, talk to her or...
[Terence:] Poker stake is ante A N T E.
[Margaret:] Is it?
[Terence:] Mm
[Margaret:] Take an ante bet or something
[Terence:] Well, mm...
[Margaret:] ante post betting that's, that's erm something, no
[Terence:] well that's not that's anti A N T I that means erm
[Margaret:] No it isn't ante A N T E ante post betting on a race
[Terence:] Before a race?
[Margaret:] I don't know when it's for, but it is for when, that's what it's called, you get a list... and it is sort of ante
[Terence:] It's like ante natal, before
[Margaret:] No it's not, oh could be, ante natal, yes
[Terence:] before the birth before the, before the race
[Margaret:] but not ante, you thought that was A N T A or something you put the other thing with anti, but it isn't, or are we at cross purposes, you don't know what you're talking about to me and I don't know what I'm talking about to you so [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [reading] South African captain was thrilled with the way his men overcame the odds to beat Australia, Worsel Lane, Vessel's the main man of the match after leading his side home
[Margaret:] He used to
[Terence:] with an unbeaten eighty one said it means a lot to me to win here against this team. Australia made a good start and we were a bit behind the eighth ball after
[Margaret:] I don't really, I don't really
[Terence:] Alan Ball admitted his men had it all to do after his men crashed to South Africa, the Australian wicket went for a duck as a defending champion slumped said we are going to have to do it the hard way now, we just didn't play very, we didn't get it together against New Zealand in the first match and today we were never in the picture, our brothers never really had a chance of any attempt of a hundred and seventy, but full credit to South Africa they are a rate, a better to side
[Margaret:] Yes they really made a
[Terence:] South Africa made a stunning with a nine wicket, nine wicket triumph []
[Margaret:] Mm... this erm what ever he's called
[Terence:] yeah
[Margaret:] apparently he paid for his and sort of fairly recently gone back to home to South Africa... where he where's that?... Mm
[Terence:] Good gracious me look at that a hundred and seventy one for one
[Margaret:] Mm
[Terence:] after about forty six overs... oh er, that, oh dear, fancy that Australia don't even get into the semi finals [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Oh they're the favourites apparently, the kids they, they have it now
[Terence:] That's right they are, well England, England next, but even so you see that's erm, that's in, that's incredible
[Margaret:] Mind you when England come against South Africa let's hope they
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] Of course if anything happened to us tomorrow or tonight because we play West Indies tonight...
[Margaret:] There we go, mm
[Terence:] still at least we've won one game...
[Margaret:] Leave those I'll see to them
[Terence:] What?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Terence:] I think perhaps I'll just have a little bit of water I'm very thirsty, I know I haven't
[Margaret:] So am I, I'm going to have a, oh have a, an orange and a lemonade that's right, that's what I'll have... well you mustn't forget to have a wee before you go out
[Terence:] That's right...
[Margaret:] I don't know who that woman is? Those were the, oh yes got one of those... right I'll have these then and this, if you want the sugar... Kay was saying that they're promising heavy storms and erm gales
[Terence:] Oh they are yes, for tomorrow or tonight
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] but erm Cranks at Dartington
[Margaret:] Oh he's talking about that is he?
[Terence:] Yes, that's why I called you in for
[Margaret:] Oh I didn't hear you call me
[Terence:] Cranks at Dartington is going, they're going to keep it open while they try and find a buyer for it
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] er, mm the Cranks who have got six other outlets, erm have gone into, what do they call it, miners, administrative liquidation
[Margaret:] Oh yes, mm, mm
[Terence:] erm apparently have expanded
[Margaret:] somebody
[Terence:] vastly into the wholesale business and erm, so
[Margaret:] Oh well I was saying to Jean this morning, cos it's funny enough we went out to Dartington yesterday and we were sort of looking at the restaurant there at Cranks, and I said to her you know about this bowl of soup and then the erm
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] talking about the prices of you know, lunch
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] and that was just a bowl of soup and a, a roll
[Terence:] Yeah, yeah Good morning
[speaker009:] Hi, alright?
[Terence:] Yes thanks
[speaker009:] A fifty and a thirty, eighty pence today for you my love
[Terence:] That's right, yeah
[speaker009:] Thank you, breezy this morning isn't it?
[Terence:] It is breezy yes it's surprising how breezy it is
[speaker009:] Twenty five
[Terence:] Lovely, okay thanks a lot
[speaker009:] Thank you very much, thanks a lot
[Terence:] Thank you bye
[speaker009:] Bye
[Terence:] Fifty for one, Botham was out for eight
[Margaret:] Oh dear, not again
[Terence:] Yeah... bit of a shame innit?
[Margaret:] Oh dear I was thinking he was going easy
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] he was gonna take over from Gooch
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] or whatever
[Terence:] Smith is now in, he hasn't scored yet, fifty for one off thirteen overs
[Margaret:] Mm...
[Terence:] so providing they just play it steadily they should be alright, there's a lot of discrimination over the Australian defeat in the paper, they reckon that if erm
[Margaret:] Only... no, no, go on what was it?
[Terence:] They reckon that if erm Australia lose another match it could mean that they won't even make the semi finals and erm they reckon like that, that channel nine that's supposed to be backing all this
[Margaret:] Oh yeah, aha
[Terence:] well they think they'll pull the plug on it
[Margaret:] Oh yes
[Terence:] and show re-runs of Neighbours instead, now can you think [LAUGHTER] can you imagine [] [LAUGHTER] anything worse than that? Oh dear, I thought that was funny... yes... cos there's been so much in Australia, you know, I mean it was really a competition just to show that Australia was gonna be champions again you know
[Margaret:] Mm... that and erm
[Terence:] Australia play India next then they play England, that'll be a match and a half I think
[Margaret:] Should be, especially with this erm, this
[Terence:] oh yes, yes
[Margaret:] Do you want to take that?
[Terence:] No I, well I'm gonna, yeah okay, but I mean she, well you're gonna be, you'll get up in a moment now won't you?
[Margaret:] Er yes I'm gonna get up in a minute anyway, so
[Terence:] Right, mm
[Margaret:] Oh fancy Botham being out, I was hoping that, you know he was going easy
[Terence:] Yes, I was
[Margaret:] erm letting Gooch score
[Terence:] Perhaps he was going too easily you see, not playing his natural game, I mean it's, you never know do you?
[Margaret:] Well perhaps it needn't where he just had... plenty of porridge
[Terence:] Yeah, yes
[Margaret:] Now I should be should prefer cutting my hair, I'm not gonna have it cut quite so short this time I think
[Terence:] Right
[Margaret:] you know just have a little bit off it
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] taken off it, cos I was looking at the length of it when we were in France
[Terence:] Mm, mm
[Margaret:] and I think that looked a nicer length
[Terence:] Yeah, mm, now do you want to come up the town? Because I shall be going up the town
[Margaret:] Yes after Lucy about, er yes that was what I was getting around to, by that time of course I should be erm
[Terence:] It'll be finished in half an hour, yes
[Margaret:] erm, so I would come up the town with you if I could think what for
[Terence:] Oh right [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] it'll help, okay
[Lucy:] It had Steve Martin in it, it's a comedy
[Terence:] Yeah
[Lucy:] it's called Father of the Bride and it's about this wedding kind of thing
[Terence:] Oh, er, I, I have to plead my ignorance I don't even know who Steve Martin is. [LAUGHTER] Well how can we help today?
[Lucy:] I finished this book
[Terence:] Did you?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Good... so let's see what you did, who did you go to the pictures with?
[Lucy:] Oh my friend Emma
[Terence:] Emma?... So where did you go from here?
[Lucy:] Yeah, where it starts in the pen
[Terence:] Where it starts in the pen... mm... what was it?... Right... right, so let us see what we can do shall we? Erm where do we start?
[Lucy:] I need a
[Terence:] there yeah,
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] E two, now you've got to work out the average speed, right... try and think roughly what the answer would be, because if you thought of that, then you would know that's a silly answer, cos look, how far is the journey?
[Lucy:] A hundred and twenty miles
[Terence:] Right, well say, a nice, you know just to the nearest, to the nearest erm whole number
[Lucy:] A hundred
[Terence:] Right
[Lucy:] and twenty seven miles
[Terence:] A hundred and twenty seven, what's that to the nearest hour?
[Lucy:] Two hours
[Terence:] Right, so if it goes say a hundred and twenty six miles... or a hundred and twenty miles, to the nearest ten miles, it goes a hundred and twenty miles in two hours... how far would it go in one hour?
[Lucy:] Sixty
[Terence:] Right, sixty... so that can't be right can it? Right, so how are you gonna find the average speed, what do you do to find that average speed? You divide what by what?
[Lucy:] Divide that by that
[Terence:] Right, but, what are you gonna divide that by on a calculator?
[Lucy:] Two point twelve
[Terence:] No, this is the whole thing isn't it? Don't you remember look... if there were a hundred minutes in an hour that would be two point one two, but there's not a hundred minutes in an hour are there? How many minutes are there in an hour?
[Lucy:] Sixty
[Terence:] Right, now look, it says there, so what's twelve minutes?
[Lucy:] Nought point two
[Terence:] Right, so what are you gonna divide that by to get the average speed?
[Lucy:] Twelve point two
[Terence:] No
[Lucy:] Nought point...
[Terence:] what's the time?
[Lucy:] Erm two hours and twelve minutes
[Terence:] Right, how do you write that as a decimal of an hour? What's two hours, twelve minutes? Look... you've got two hours and you've got twelve minutes, now what fraction of an hour is twelve minutes?
[Lucy:] Erm... five
[Terence:] No, what, twelve minutes is what fraction of an hour?
[Lucy:] Oh, nought point two
[Terence:] Right, so that equals the minutes is point two, how many hours?
[Lucy:] Two
[Terence:] So two hours, twelve minutes is two point two
[Lucy:] Two
[Terence:] hours
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, so to find the average speed what you gonna do?
[Lucy:] Two hours divided by
[Terence:] Right, but and what that by
[Lucy:] That divide by that
[Terence:] divide, come on say again
[Lucy:] That
[Terence:] That by, by what?
[Lucy:] Two point two
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] Fifty eight...
[Terence:] That's right... right, well what about the next one?
[Lucy:] Doesn't say
[Terence:] Well how many minutes is it?
[Lucy:] Nought point nine five nought point nine five
[Terence:] Where does fifty eight come?
[Lucy:] There
[Terence:] Does it?
[Lucy:] No
[Terence:] Right, there, so what are you gonna divide it by?
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] That's nought point eight, nought point nine, nought point nine five, nought point nine
[Lucy:] Six
[Terence:] six and that's half way to it so that's nought point nine, six, five
[Lucy:] Five
[Terence:] Look, nought point nine, six, five and so you're gonna divide
[Lucy:] Five
[Terence:] you're gonna divide fifty point five... by...
[Lucy:] Fifty two
[Terence:] Right... right now D...
[Lucy:] Well that one point two
[Terence:] That's right...
[Lucy:] forty two
[Terence:] Right... right, now, the next one
[Lucy:] Er... how you gonna take it out of it?... Three at, thirty nine thirty nine...
[Terence:] So what is it?
[Lucy:] Two hours, thirty nine minutes
[Terence:] Right, two hours, thirty nine, right...
[Lucy:] Two point six, five
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] Seventy two
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] I've got erm, how many hours and all this written down at home if you want me to bring that up
[Terence:] Erm
[Lucy:] write all the hours down
[Terence:] Yes you can do It's just afternoon, what time is noon?
[Lucy:] Twelve o'clock
[Terence:] So that is just eighteen minutes after noon, so how long is it from nine, ten in the morning until, until eighteen minutes past twelve o'clock in midday? So how long is it
[Lucy:] Three hours and
[Terence:] Right so Switzerland is three hours and eight minutes... isn't it?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] And you had two hours, fifty two minutes, right, so which is the next one, this one? Now that's five, ten P M to eleven thirty eight P M, well what's five ten, to eleven ten?
[Lucy:] Erm... six hours
[Terence:] Six hours
[Lucy:] and eighteen minutes
[Terence:] and eighteen minutes, er wait a moment... six hours and what? Ten, thirty eight
[Lucy:] And twenty eight
[Terence:] Right, so that is six hours and twenty eight minutes isn't it?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, now what's the next one? Two fourteen to ten twenty, er this again is easier because what would be two fourteen to ten fourteen?...
[Lucy:] Erm... eight
[Terence:] Eight hours, so fourteen to twenty would be how many?
[Lucy:] Sixteen
[Terence:] Right, so it's eight hours six minutes... now the next one
[Lucy:] Erm
[Terence:] two fifty to ten twenty nine, well, come back to the same sort of time, the hour just before that, say two fifty to nine fifty, what would two fifty to nine fifty be?...
[Lucy:] Erm seven hours
[Terence:] Right, now you've got to go from... fifty to twenty nine
[Lucy:] Erm
[Terence:] so fifty to an hour would be
[Lucy:] Thirty nine
[Terence:] Right thirty nine minutes, so it's
[Lucy:] Seven, eight hours
[Terence:] No seven hours isn't it?
[Lucy:] Seven hours
[Terence:] Two to nine, seven hours and thirty nine minutes isn't it?
[Lucy:] Got thirty nine
[Terence:] Right, now this next one... ten A M to two thirty seven P M, well what's ten o'clock?
[Lucy:] Four hours
[Terence:] Four hours and?
[Lucy:] Fifty seven
[Terence:] Right and I think the next one you got right, because you worked it out alright, cos it's seven days, which is how many hours?
[Lucy:] Five, three, erm... seven times twenty four
[Terence:] That's right, which is?
[Lucy:] Erm a hundred times twenty four
[Terence:] Well it's a hundred and sixty eight, seven times twenty four, but then you've got five hours to add onto it which makes it a hundred and seventy three, right, so now work out your average speeds.
[Lucy:] Okay... but I got some right, I got the actual question wrong on that one, just I, shall I do that one?...
[Terence:] Have you got the second one, didn't you get the second one, oh you got that one wrong?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] Right, so yes, do that one... this is what this is Dublin to Cork?...
[Lucy:] Erm one hundred and ten, no one hundred and twenty
[Terence:] Dublin to Cork, it's two hundred and sixty six
[Lucy:] Oh I've done the wrong one... a hundred and six, I've got that and you've marked it wrong...
[Terence:] What did you divide by?...
[Lucy:] That
[Terence:] What?
[Lucy:] Two point five, eight
[Terence:] What's two point five hours?
[Lucy:] Erm... a hundred and
[Terence:] Well what's point five of an hour?...
[Lucy:] Six
[Terence:] What, what fraction is point five?... Point five something, what fraction is that?
[Lucy:] Point five?
[Terence:] Yeah point five
[Lucy:] Half
[Terence:] Right, what's half an hour?
[Lucy:] Thirty nine
[Terence:] Right, so two point five is two hours, thirty minutes, but it's not two hours, thirty minutes, it's two hours
[Lucy:] Fifty minutes
[Terence:] Right, so what have you got to do? You've got to change the minutes to a decimal
[Lucy:] Oh
[Terence:] haven't you?
[Lucy:] Eight, eight point eight, three
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] What did I say, point eight three?... Ninety four
[Terence:] Right
[Lucy:] erm...
[Terence:] Right, now what's the next one?
[Lucy:] erm Switzerland
[Terence:] Switzerland, right
[Lucy:] Eight... there, nought, point, one, three
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] Did I say nought, point, eight, three?
[Terence:] No
[Lucy:] Nought, point, one, three
[Terence:] Right
[Lucy:] Nought, point, one, three
[Terence:] but you're not gonna divide by nought, point, one, three are you?
[Lucy:] No... ninety one
[Terence:] Right... now what I shall do before you go any further is divide that at the side here, what those and minutes are as decimals of an hour...
[Lucy:] Nought point four, seven, nought point four, seven
[Terence:] What was it erm six hours twenty eight minutes was it?
[Lucy:] Yes six point nought, what did I say?
[Terence:] Yeah
[Lucy:] Six point three, seven
[Terence:] No, four, seven isn't it?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] Nought point one... six, five... nought, point, four, two
[Terence:] No, how long is it?
[Lucy:] Twenty seven
[Terence:] Is it twenty seven?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] Which one we dealing with?
[Lucy:] Britain...
[Terence:] Right, no it's not, look, it's ten o'clock to two thirty seven, what's that? How many minutes?
[Lucy:] Thirty seven
[Terence:] Right, so it's four hours, thirty seven minutes isn't it? We want thirty seven...
[Lucy:] Nought point six, two
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] ninety eight
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] eighty six
[Terence:] Eighty, you're not far out, but it's just erm Madrid to Barcelona six, eight, seven...
[Lucy:] Erm, eight six
[Terence:] Right... just don't do it again
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER] Six
[Terence:] Is this the seven hours, thirty nine minutes?
[Lucy:] Yeah, six, eight, seven
[Terence:] Seven hours
[Lucy:] seven
[Terence:] thirty nine minutes
[Lucy:] Twenty six...
[Terence:] five
[Lucy:] Five, no I do it the wrong way
[Terence:] Right, start again, eight hundred and, no it were doing
[Lucy:] I'm doing Spain, that's what I'm doing anyway, oh I've got that one right [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Right, so West Germany...
[Lucy:] One hundred and six
[Terence:] Right...
[Lucy:] One, three, seven
[Terence:] Right... right, what you didn't do almost all the time was to change those minutes to decimals of an hour wasn't it? So you must remember that whenever you're dealing with speed or anything to do with hours and minutes you've got to change your minutes to the decimals of an hour before you can use your calculator.
[Lucy:] Okay.
[Terence:] Now, just let's have a little help here, because you won't have this graph with you all the time... will you?
[Lucy:] No
[Terence:] Right, so, how can you find out what forty minutes is?
[Lucy:] Divide it by ten...
[Terence:] No, what decimal fraction of an hour is forty minutes? How can you find out, you can use your calculator
[Lucy:] Quarter, three quarters
[Terence:] No, what's, what's a quarter of an hour?
[Lucy:] Quarter of an hour, twenty minutes, fours into sixty, fifteen
[Terence:] Right, so three quarters of an hour is?
[Lucy:] Forty five
[Terence:] Forty five minutes... if you've got forty five minutes, what's, what's the fraction of an hour?
[Lucy:] Over sixty
[Terence:] Right, it's forty five over sixty, you want to change that into a decimal, what do you do?
[Lucy:] Erm... divide into
[Terence:] No, how do you change any fraction into a decimal, now this is something you must
[Lucy:] Divide it by ten
[Terence:] No, no, no, no... you've got fractions here look, erm... now how do you change all those fractions into decimal fractions, what do you do?
[Lucy:] Nought point five
[Terence:] But how did you do it? You knew that, but how do you do it?
[Lucy:] Erm
[Terence:] How do you do it on a calculator? What does that really mean one over two, how else could you write one over two? How else could you write it?
[Lucy:] Two over four
[Terence:] Yes, but I don't mean that, erm, could you, would you write it as one plus two or one minus two or one multiplied by two or one divided by two
[Lucy:] One multiplied
[Terence:] One multiplied by two? Two ones are two? Does a half equal two? So what does that, you know this, which of those four rules do you do for that?...
[Lucy:] One...
[Terence:] What's one plus two?
[Lucy:] Three
[Terence:] What's one minus two?
[Lucy:] Nothing, minus
[Terence:] one, minus two?
[Lucy:] One, no, nothing...
[Terence:] One, minus two
[Lucy:] Minus two
[Terence:] Minus, one, come down two, come down one you get to nought, come down another one
[Lucy:] Minus two
[Terence:] so one minus one, one minus two is?
[Lucy:] Minus one
[Terence:] Is minus one, what's one times two?
[Lucy:] Er two
[Terence:] What's one divided by two?
[Lucy:] One
[Terence:] If you've got one apple and you divide it
[Lucy:] Half
[Terence:] Right, one divided by two is a half, so which of those answers is that one? Right, so what does one, how else can you write one over two?
[Lucy:] Erm one divide
[Terence:] One divided by two, right, remember that, so how can I write that?
[Lucy:] Forty five divided by six
[Terence:] By?
[Lucy:] Sixty
[Terence:] Right, do that on your calculator...
[Lucy:] Nought point seven five
[Terence:] Right, so that equals nought point seven five, what's a half? Do it on the calculator
[Lucy:] Nought point five
[Terence:] Right... what's three quarters divided er as a decimal?
[Lucy:] Nought point five... nought point eight, seven, five
[Terence:] Right, so how do you change a fraction into a decimal?
[Lucy:] You divide it by the bottom
[Terence:] You divide the top number by the bottom number, so, supposing you've got fifty seven minutes and you want to change that into a decimal of an hour, what fraction of an hour is it? What's fifty seven minutes as a deci as a fraction of an hour? That's forty five minutes
[Lucy:] Fifty seven over sixty
[Terence:] Right, so how do you change that into a decimal?...
[Lucy:] Nought, point, nine, five
[Terence:] Right, nought, point, nine, five, so now you can see how easily you can change your minutes into a decimal at any time, right, now, let's look at some of these, this is four hours and thirty
[Lucy:] Thirty
[Terence:] seven minutes, so it's four hours, four hours and thirty seven minutes, so what fraction is that of an hour?
[Lucy:] Erm...
[Terence:] Thirty seven minutes?
[Lucy:] Forty
[Terence:] Thirty seven minutes?
[Lucy:] over sixty
[Terence:] Right thirty seven over sixty, what's thirty seven over sixty? Cos the ans that is four and thirty seven sixtieths
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] so what's thirty seven sixtieths as a decimal?...
[Lucy:] Nought point six
[Terence:] Right, so what's four hours, thirty seven minutes?
[Lucy:] Four point six
[Terence:] Point six
[Lucy:] O
[Terence:] Well six
[Lucy:] One
[Terence:] to the nearest two decimal places what's that gonna be? Nought, point, six
[Lucy:] Nought, point, six one
[Terence:] to do decimal places?
[Lucy:] Oh, two
[Terence:] Right, because that's bigger than five isn't it?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] So it's nought, point, six, two, so for our thirty seven minutes it's, four point six, two, there we are look, but the thing is you can now do it without having to look at a scale
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] Right?
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] So do this one... what is this?
[Lucy:] Four
[Terence:] Eight hours and four minutes
[Lucy:] Four, six
[Terence:] So, so what's that gonna be, eight hours and four minutes?
[Lucy:] Nought point nought
[Terence:] It's, it's eight hours
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] so it's gonna be eight not nought isn't it?
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] It's gonna be eight point
[Lucy:] Nought one
[Terence:] Nought what?
[Lucy:] One
[Terence:] Nought one, what's that?
[Lucy:] Mm, erm nought
[Terence:] Nought, six, six, so it's gonna be to two decimal places it's gonna be
[Lucy:] Nought point nought seven
[Terence:] Right, so it's gonna be eight point
[Lucy:] Nought seven
[Terence:] eighty point, nought, seven... right
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] So you now know how you can change your minutes to decimals
[Lucy:] To decimals
[Terence:] Right, now you may have to do that on this next one...
[Lucy:] Tired
[Terence:] I can see that...
[Lucy:] Oh my brother does motor racing
[Terence:] I know he does... Have you heard from your brother?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] How is he?
[Lucy:] He's okay, he says the resorts are very good
[Terence:] Does he and the snow good?
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] And has he been up to the top of the
[Lucy:] I don't know I wasn't there when mummy
[Terence:] oh I see... so what's today Thursday, he's only got today and tomorrow left hasn't he for skiing
[Lucy:] That's Silverstone
[Terence:] That's right
[Lucy:] Yes I know where that is
[Terence:] Do you?
[Lucy:] Yes
[Terence:] Have you been there?
[Lucy:] No, my brother has
[Terence:] Has he?
[Lucy:] He might have I don't, he probably has
[Terence:] Right... so it shows a Silverstone motor racing circuit
[Lucy:] Yeah
[Terence:] Right, so what's the first
[Lucy:] circuit has five corners and ten kerbs, car start ha, car start near Woodcape Corner and go clockwise, which corner do they come from first? aha... Copse Corner
[Terence:] Right Copse Corner... what would you expect to find at Copse Corner?
[Lucy:] Ten cops
[Terence:] And what's a copse?
[Lucy:] I don't know
[Terence:] That's what I wanted to find out
[Lucy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] You don't know what copse is?
[Lucy:] No
[Terence:] A copse is a smallish group of trees
[Lucy:] Is there lots of trees there?
[Terence:] Well there would be, yes, I would imagine or if they certainly would, they would of been in the past, they may have been cut down, but that would indicate to me that there were probably trees
[Lucy:] Probably been cut down
[Terence:] at that corner, a group of trees
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] Copse Corner, copse er, is, is a name which we give to a small wood, a small group of trees is a copse, in India that can be called a shola, S H O L A
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] and at one stage when I was walking in India we used to stay at bungalows and one was called Marian Shola and another was called Pine Shola, because it meant that it was a, it was a bungalow in a group of pine trees
[Lucy:] Mm
[Terence:] but copse is a small group of trees, right, so, the next one B
[Lucy:] Which curve is just after Beckett?... Chapel kerb
[Terence:] Chapel kerb...
[Lucy:] Wonder who's got a Chapel there?
[Terence:] I should think almost certainly there was a chapel at that point...
[Lucy:] Famous people go there
[Terence:] Oh they do indeed, yes
[Lucy:] Mm, mm... which corner is at the end of Hammer Street? Stow Corner
[Terence:] That's right
[Lucy:] Why is that called Stow?
[Terence:] I wouldn't know that one...
[Lucy:] Banker's got a nice track
[Terence:] I hate to think what was in that corner too
[Lucy:] Ugh
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear, right
[Lucy:] Look, I have a magic pencil
[Terence:] You have a magic pencil...
[Lucy:] It moves
[Terence:] mm...
[Lucy:] Car going from Woodcape to Copse who
[Terence:] To Copse
[Lucy:] Car will be travelling roughly from west to east or eastwards
[Terence:] Yes, now remember that, what that means, west to east is in fact going eastwards
[Lucy:] Yes...
[Terence:] Where would it be travelling roughly southwards?
[Lucy:] Where am I going from Woodcape southwards, that way
[Terence:] Which is southwards?
[Lucy:] Down
[Terence:] Right, so where would the car be travelling in a southward direction?
[Lucy:] There
[Terence:] Right, so how would you describe that stretch, it's going from
[Lucy:] Copse Corner to
[Terence:] right...
[Lucy:] Oh... there we go
[Terence:] Right, so where would it be going, roughly going
[Lucy:] going northwards
[Terence:] Northwards
[Lucy:] Going up
[Terence:] So where would that be from?
[Lucy:] There
[Terence:] There to?
[Lucy:] to Woodcape Corner
[Terence:] Right...
[speaker009:] Where are we?
[Margaret:] Fourth of April
[speaker009:] No, come on.
[Margaret:] Oh we know it.
[speaker009:] Tuesday the seventh... when, I've just got to write it in my book you see because I haven't gone that far ahead.
[Margaret:] Ah
[Terence:] Ah
[speaker009:] What's Thursday, the ninth isn't it?
[Margaret:] Thursday is the... ninth, yes.
[speaker009:] That's next week.
[Terence:] That's the ninth of April
[Margaret:] Ninth of April.
[Terence:] That looks alright.
[speaker009:] Okay?
[Margaret:] Right.
[speaker009:] Should try the again. [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] Don't worry though honestly, I know these things do happen.
[Terence:] What time?
[Margaret:] Quarter to ten.... We've gone and got lumbered
[speaker009:] A bit waylaid.
[Terence:] Did you? [LAUGHTER] Well it happens doesn't it? I mean
[Margaret:] She went to do a lady's hair and then the lady said well if you, could you just sort of trim my husband's.
[speaker009:] husband's
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] that was my whole morning gone, no it's not too bad actually.
[Margaret:] No well er I, I expect you've caught up a bit now haven't you? Right.
[speaker009:] Right.
[Margaret:] Well thank you ever so much.
[speaker009:] Thank you, it's nice to see you both again.
[Terence:] Oh, nice to see you. Okay.
[Margaret:] Look forward to seeing you again in six weeks time.
[speaker009:] Lovely thanks
[Margaret:] Okay then? Bye bye.
[Terence:] Bye bye.... Well they're a hundred and forty six now.... Oh I hope Hicks gets his fifty. He's got forty six now.
[Margaret:] He's got forty six?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Gooch was stumped.
[Margaret:] Was he?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Oh
[Terence:] Well shall we have a cup of coffee before we go out?
[Margaret:] What?
[Terence:] Shall we have a cup of coffee before we go out?
[Margaret:] Yes may as well might
[Terence:] Oh yes that's true, yes, I'll put the kettle on....
[Margaret:] ... said all I'm worried about is did I wash my hair too early for you... so she said it's alright I've got a spray that I can sort of cos she likes it quite wet when she
[Terence:] Yeah.... It's thirty eight overs so I mean they've got another twelve overs yet.
[Margaret:] To get about twenty runs.
[Terence:] Ten runs oh no less than that, ten runs now.
[Margaret:] Ten?
[Terence:] Well twelve I think, hundred and forty six they've got now.
[Margaret:] Oh that would be twelve then....
[Terence:] They're just obviously between overs at the moment, it's just finished an over and they've got the bowler up.... Hundred and fifty, Dick Hicks got his fifty.
[Margaret:] Oh good.... Fairbrother's doing, you know, he's holding up the other
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] side obviously.... Was Lucy sort of late with you? Or did she have to go back for something.
[Terence:] She had to go back for something.
[Margaret:] I, cos I saw her at a quarter past nine so
[Terence:] No no she'd erm she'd been in, hundred and fifty three, Hick again....
[Margaret:] Hundred and... fifty three, so he only wants five?
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Oh well let him hit the... the winning thing.
[Terence:] Well he won't be er he, he won't, he won't have strike now, Fairbrother will have strike.... Cos he's obviously just got a three.
[Margaret:] Unless they've changed ends.... Thirty eight overs, yes, as you say they've got another twelve overs.... Hundred and fifty four
[Terence:] Oh he's got one yes.
[Margaret:] so he had four... cos he got one then didn't he?
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] Oh well the jubilation...
[Terence:] Hundred and fifty six.
[Margaret:] So only wants two and he's got fifty six look you see
[Terence:] Mm.
[Margaret:] he's doing the scoring.... Well I expect they like him doing it. Fifty four, it's changed, Hick's not out fifty four [LAUGHTER] it was fifty six a minute ago [] wasn't it?...
[Terence:] Yes it was, Fairbrother's got the nine you see, look.
[Margaret:] Yeah well he's still got nine.
[Terence:] Yeah but he had seven.
[Margaret:] Oh I thought it was nine he had.
[Terence:] No....
[Margaret:] So they only want two.... Six six four oh [LAUGHTER] no
[Terence:] No [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] not quite, no []....
[Terence:] Something's come up which shouldn't have done....
[Margaret:] Well switch it off and bring it up again and see if it changes.
[Terence:] Oh it will change again as soon as it goes round to the, to the three four one again er y you don't see it changing it but
[Margaret:] Oh I know, every time it flicks
[Terence:] Yeah mm
[Margaret:] it's changing.... You see it, I mean I pointed that out, like now. For four wickets, oh Hick caught and bowled!
[Terence:] Oh dear.
[Margaret:] Oh....
[Terence:] Probably trying to, probably trying to hit a six out of the ground
[Margaret:] Should think probably that was probably what that erm
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] was about probably caught and bowled... he was probably was sort of erm
[Terence:] Just trying to hit a six.
[Margaret:] trying to hit, you know, get it finished.
[Terence:] That's right.
[Margaret:] [cough]... Yes erm... she didn't come till after ten and I was beginning
[Terence:] Yeah
[Margaret:] to wonder whether I'd got the right time.
[Terence:] Have we got a p is there a piece of cake left?
[Margaret:] Sorry?
[Terence:] Is there a piece of cake left?...
[Margaret:] What did you say?
[Terence:] I said is there a p no it's alright, a biscuit will do fine. I just said was there a piece of cake left.
[Margaret:] Oh there is ca oh of course I have got cakes in the. Oh gosh, help me, help me, help me.... Good, not out... bowling again.... Presumably you took those chicken... things downstairs for me... yesterday?...
[Terence:] Presumably I did....
[Margaret:] You know the
[Terence:] Yes I think I did, yeah. The what? Oh yes I put them in the freezer, yes, yes. I was trying to think of rubbish that I'd taken out. Do you want a bit of cake?
[Margaret:] I, I'd just taken this thing
[Terence:] You're not gonna have a piece of this?
[Margaret:] Oh you can have, you can finish that up if you want to.
[Terence:] Thanks.... Oh they're taking a long time to get these last two runs aren't they?...
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Mm....
[Margaret:] look.
[Terence:] Oh gracious....
[Margaret:] Fairbrother got a four look.
[Terence:] Oh yes.... Well we've eleven overs to spare, I mean that's erm
[Margaret:] England's maintaining their Britain and the West Indies in one day games...
[Terence:] [reading] Six wicket victory, the West Indies batting self destructed after the loss of two early wickets and only at fifty four and scores. They were all out for just a hundred and fifty seven and the outcome was never in doubt after Graham Gooch and Ian Botham an opening stand of fifty in reply. Gooch made sixty five, Graham Hicks... boost boosted his confidence with his second international fifty and England reached their target with ten overs to spare []. Well I think they w they were something on... three four two I think. Now that was ma that will be in the score card of course, three four two.
[Margaret:] Oh this is it look.
[Terence:] [reading] England bowling West Indies... course for their second cup victory... on their back caught by snaring in his opening []...
[Margaret:] of course
[Terence:] caught Botham bowled Botham
[Margaret:] he's doing alright.
[Terence:] Mm. Oh
[Margaret:] How did it go?
[Terence:] It went er on its own accord er now what number were we on? Three four two. So I'll go to three four three because I think there's something else on, someone else... result....
[Margaret:] details. Was there last night? Oh no that was the night before
[Terence:] picked up their first points with a fifty three one o w win over Zimbabwe
[Margaret:] Oh is that?
[Terence:] Pakistan
[Margaret:] Oh I see, he, he was the opener.
[Terence:] He was docked four times on his way to reaching his first one day century. Oh, so Pakistan beat Zimbabwe.
[Margaret:] Oh it was Pakistan was it?
[Terence:] Mm. Now what was that about Food and Drink you wanted to see?
[Margaret:] No I was, I just saw Food and Drink
[Terence:] Oh.
[Margaret:] but I think I saw it, didn't I, the night... before last was it?
[Terence:] Yes I think you did didn't you?...
[Margaret:] They haven't got news yet of the erm cricket win I don't suppose?
[Terence:] No. Well it won't be on the national news I don't suppose cos it comes under sports
[Margaret:] Oh it'll be on the national news because
[Terence:] thing mm
[Margaret:] they reporting it....
[Terence:] Well I've got one of France but I'm not sure... what scale it is. I don't th
[Margaret:] You see if we had seen that one that would be very ideal for Richard.
[Terence:] Yes it would. Erm... erm...
[Margaret:] Doesn't it tell you?
[Terence:] now you see this is three inches to the mile and this is... this is one to... no that's not one to a million, that's ridiculous that is. Erm...... have to work it out all the time, this is erm... this is one to two hundred and fifty thousand. Erm
[Margaret:] This is three miles to one inch, that one isn't it?
[Terence:] Yes this one is, look this one is... erm... that's... ten kilometres is eight miles isn't it?
[Margaret:] Yes mhm.
[Terence:] So that's eight miles, that's, so that's, this is about four miles to the inch, this one I should think. So it's not bad you see, so I mean I've got that one of France which is...
[Margaret:] Yes so that's okay.
[Terence:] more or less the s
[Margaret:] So the other one is... I don't remember what it is I wanted... but I think I'll go in to erm... and erm......
[Terence:] Well I've got to go to the building society and I've got to go to
[Margaret:] The bank.
[Terence:] the bank.... Erm
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] I'll go down and get the car out. It's really quite warm now out... sort of out of the wind.
[Margaret:] Yes... well I think that the erm... I mean the sun is a surprise.
[Terence:] Yeah.... Yeah that tub of daffs is really erm looking good isn't it?
[Margaret:] Mm They look as if they're all planted near the top you know
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] as if you put a whole heap of... as you say th the t the two of them
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] in the wheelbarrow
[Terence:] Yeah, both out, yeah
[Margaret:] sort of
[Terence:] So we just wanna go and park somewhere don't we really?
[Margaret:] Well really it's about it... I'll have to see if there's a carrier...
[Terence:] I think there is one in the box, yes.
[Margaret:] If we put one back in again.... I haven't got as much room in this one to put the bag.
[Terence:] Have you not? No....
[Margaret:] Gosh...
[Terence:] Mm... Oh the moor is [cough] visible again.
[Margaret:] Yeah.... Oh well perhaps... the fog and erm... got a appointment on the Saturday hasn't she?
[Terence:] Has she? For hair
[Margaret:] hair
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] and erm... well perhaps... young Bob and Jess can go on the moor on Saturday.
[Terence:] Yes
[Margaret:] If it, I mean if it were like today it will be lovely.
[Terence:] Yeah.... Yes well I hope we get the opportunity.
[Margaret:] Yeah....
[Terence:] Gosh that car looks a bit rusty doesn't it? That's a Fiat of course you see.
[Margaret:] Oh yes, yeah
[Terence:] It's like Richard's old car, you remember that, Fiat?
[Margaret:] Fiat one two seven like that one is.
[Terence:] Yeah that's right.... [LAUGHTER]... Oh no he's coming off on, off the lorry so that's no good....
[Margaret:] Well it would be a bit tight to get in I feel....
[Terence:] There's nowhere up there is there? No she's just got in
[Margaret:] It's very difficult to get in
[Terence:] Yeah. Well we will just hope for the best, he's not going up there so that's one less.
[Margaret:] wondered if
[Terence:] Yes I did too.
[Margaret:] Oh look, we've just got one there.
[Terence:] Oh yes. Great....
[Margaret:] Oh look it's one of these that's nice because [LAUGHTER] you can just sort of nothing can come in behind you and... that sort of thing.
[Terence:] Mind the disabled person just coming past you here, that's it. Good, right, so I will do what I've got to do, you will do what you've got to do...
[Margaret:] This is all mucky at the back, what happened to it?...
[Terence:] You got a bag there? Oh.
[Margaret:] Oh that will be alright
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] very strong.
[Terence:] Well it's probably stronger than that one, still.
[Margaret:] Mm, that's the one, no, leave that one.
[Terence:] Erm...
[Margaret:] This one will be alright.......
[Terence:] stay here now....
[Margaret:] wasn't there anyway. I thought it was sort of a er you know, by the
[Terence:] [cough]
[Margaret:] so... I was wrong
[Terence:] Yes. Cos the other thing I was gonna do was to go into Lloyds, I must do that some time about this interest on that account... cos I reckon it's very low
[Margaret:] Oh yes.
[Terence:] and I still haven't, I keep on forgetting that.
[Margaret:] You keep on forgetting to bring out the book.
[Terence:] [cough] Yeah....
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] Yes....
[Margaret:] Oh well that was lucky cos there haven't been any more
[Terence:] Another space, no, that's right....
[Margaret:] Anyway... you... just go where you've got to go
[Terence:] Yes.
[Margaret:] the bank and the building society
[Terence:] and then I'll go down to Devon Travel... to pick up that er
[Margaret:] Right.
[Terence:] so I'll see you back at the car.
[Margaret:] Right.
[Terence:] I've got a funny hat on, ah that's fair enough isn't it? [LAUGHTER] Some people like it.
[speaker009:] It keeps
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] That's right. It needs to.
[speaker009:] [baby talking]
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER]... funny hat
[Terence:] Good morning Tony, erm, you said come in...
[Mima:] Now nothing else has come.
[Terence:] Nothing else has come.
[Mima:] Now you've got the vouchers, did I give you the vouchers?
[Terence:] No.
[Mima:] I didn't, right. This lady's from New Zealand
[Terence:] Oh [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] And I said er
[Mima:] Yeah?
[speaker009:] I've got a cousin
[Mima:] Yeah?
[speaker009:] She said where? what's their name? they knew
[Mima:] No, yeah, incredible isn't it?
[speaker009:] from one, the very south of New Zealand
[Terence:] Incredible isn't it?
[speaker009:] I meet people I was in Adelaide once with
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] m
[Terence:] Ten... ten, can
[Margaret:] Can? Oh well I suppose, yes it, you know, it might be, don't know how but [LAUGHTER] it might be []
[Terence:] Ten down... [reading] thus it's safe to take it in []...
[Margaret:] Now I, let me just try and get this one. ... what is... [reading] it's barely credible [].... Now which one do I... well [reading] shove roughly []
[Terence:] ... pushed... pushing?
[Margaret:] I've not got a P in the anagram so I don't think it can start with
[Terence:] Well it do isn't necessarily an anagram is it?... Ah yeah I mean, oh I see what you mean, there, mm. No. Right....
[Margaret:] [reading] Shove roughly [].
[Terence:] Mm that's right.... [reading] Step on newsman as tyre is [].... I had treaded in but you can't have treaded, still, oh a tyre is treaded isn't it? [reading] Step on newsman as tyre is []... treaded?
[Margaret:] Well why treaded? I mean
[Terence:] Cos i
[Margaret:] apart from
[Terence:] step, tread
[Margaret:] Yeah, yeah. And, I mean why newsman?
[Terence:] eded, editor, E D.
[Margaret:] Mm....
[Terence:] See what I mean?
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] I mean I...
[Margaret:] Oh tread... T R E A D... and four down would finish with D
[Terence:] [reading] Firstly doctor or surgeon every day gave treatment []
[Margaret:] Doctor... firstly... erm we think that must finish with an E D did w did we? Cos that was
[Terence:] That one...
[Margaret:] Ah yes. [reading] step on newsman []... tread, T R E A D...
[Terence:] So if that's a T then that's gonna be
[Margaret:] To
[Terence:] to... [reading] it's barely credible []... hard to... hard to, can you get out of that?...
[Margaret:] H A R D, hard and to... and then it starts with an I
[Terence:] H A... R D
[Margaret:] I haven't got
[Terence:] T, oh yes you have, you've got two, you've got th two I's... G and an I
[Margaret:] Ah yes, gin... two I's? Oh I have I've got
[Terence:] Yeah because look er er gin I dream and you've got an I in gin and you've got the I
[Margaret:] You, you think it's hard to
[Terence:] Hard to, and it's going to be
[Margaret:] What have you got left then?...
[Terence:] Well you've got a
[Margaret:] See look the last one will start with I won't it?
[Terence:] You've got a G and N and M and I and E and an A er to follow that I. Hard to imagine.
[Margaret:] Yes....
[Terence:] I wouldn't have thought that was easy to do?
[Margaret:] I know, you should see her hair....
[Terence:] Gracious me....
[Margaret:] Hard to imagine, right. So... twelve over [reading] gets ready for more fire []... relax... relight, no...
[Terence:] One across [reading] Shoved roughly got the money illicitly []
[Margaret:] Oh yes that one. Hassled?
[Terence:] Mm got the money illicitly? I mean
[Margaret:] H A S S L E D hassled erm... haggle? No,... Well suppose you have three down...
[Terence:] [reading] Hero worshipper, list old boy []...
[Margaret:] Well supposing it's hassled, H A S S L so this old boy would be... L, don't think, one two three four five seven... hero worshipper...
[Terence:] Do you know that one, [reading] the music about a bird []?...
[Margaret:] Air air?
[Terence:] Oh, well air is about a bird I suppose [LAUGHTER] but not what I had in mind.
[Margaret:] No I wouldn't have that in mind really. Fifteen over, where is it... well what is five down?
[Terence:] Well five down is [reading] bad ideas, question mark, a very, exclamation mark []...
[Margaret:] Do you think, no which we haven't got.... bad ideas... D... D E M U S I L M
[Terence:] [reading] Glowing players in court []
[Margaret:] D E M U S... oh so that would be S... blank E blank S?... Glowing players in court, is that what you said?
[Terence:] Glowing players in court.... No idea... Got the money illicitly...
[Margaret:] Seeds?...
[Terence:] Oh yes! Very good.... Very good. So you think that's delusion?
[Margaret:] Well D E L U fifteen over would finish the music...
[Terence:] Oh yes.
[Margaret:] Why? I'm just trying to work out
[Terence:] E M U
[Margaret:] Oh yes....
[Terence:] [reading] Fury at a []
[Margaret:] [reading] Fury at a bad deed []
[Terence:] outrage... So twenty five over [reading] after one two poles drink here [] must be inn of course.... I one, N N, two poles.... So four down [reading] firstly doctor or surgeon every day gave treatment []...
[Margaret:] So it's either gonna be M D or D R isn't it?... If that's the doctor... every day gave treatment... [reading] Well we're not having this []...... forty four down... [reading] get one off the point of advance line []...
[Terence:] [reading] Well, we're not having this []
[Margaret:] Oh yeah
[Terence:] Illness?... [reading] The cool rips open the side,coo rips open the side []
[Margaret:] Cool... rips open the side
[Terence:] Coo rips
[Margaret:] mm so it must be cool and rips
[Terence:] Well it can't be it hasn't got two E's look.
[Margaret:] Oh.
[Terence:] Oh no that's thirty five [reading] always set out in Nepal []
[Margaret:] In Nepal.
[Terence:] Always set out... in Nepal, it must there's two E's.... Ever
[Margaret:] Everest
[Terence:] Everest
[Margaret:] in Nepal.
[Terence:] Ever E S T... yes Everest.... So twenty seven down [reading] hard sailors fear it []
[Margaret:] Hard sailors fear it
[Terence:] Hard hard
[Margaret:] sailors
[Terence:] sailors fear it... in the main...
[Margaret:] that one
[Terence:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] I mean I reckon that must I there cos whatever that is... with a G at the end... possible, could be I N G couldn't it?
[Terence:] Iceberg....
[Margaret:] What is that one there? the -ing.... Twenty six [reading] going easy []...
[Terence:] Ambling?...
[Margaret:] Could well be....
[Terence:] Right, forty over... [reading] provided the outcome []... provided... What's thirty six down?... [reading] I'd... I'd set off watery moves [] it must be I'd set...
[Margaret:] I'd?
[Terence:] Yeah, very good. Thirty six... so that must be G E D mustn't it?
[Margaret:] Provided the outcome, yes
[Terence:] Provided the outcome....
[Margaret:] And forty down, did we try that?
[Terence:] Well forty down is [reading] proclaim point... noun on English church []...
[Margaret:] It's a steeple, what do you call those very...
[Terence:] Proclaim...
[Margaret:] Proclaim a point....
[Terence:] I thought of weather vane but of course it doesn't fit in [LAUGHTER] so that's out. The point on an English church, well nou no it's a noun on an English church, yeah it is.... provided the outcome...
[Margaret:] Supposing that a point I suppose is erm
[Terence:] Well it's north or south.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] Or east or west.... ... Oh right... well what's thirty over? [reading] Same again []... ditto... I should think....
[Margaret:] So nineteen down?...
[Terence:] [reading] It's boring... dancing outside []...
[Margaret:] It's boring... well that'll be an O blank S
[Terence:] Well I think that's S, I mean I think that's encores, I mean er calls for repeat performances?
[Margaret:] Well I should think so, yes. calls so, well anyway... the eighteen over is [reading] art with brie can produce a dish []
[Terence:] A dish well that's this one here look, erm, where have I got it?... I've got it down somewhere here, R blank, here it is look
[Margaret:] Brie
[Terence:] it's R blank R and you've got A R E T B
[Margaret:] R blank... rarebit...
[Terence:] Rarebit... good... I thought the chef might get that one. Rarebit
[Margaret:] So nineteen er down again is...
[Terence:] Nineteen down we have the T, it's boring dancing outside.... It's boring it's boring... it's boring dancing outside. B O U S won't it I should think
[Margaret:] Well I was... I, I just said tiptoes.
[Terence:] Oh tiptoes, it's boring
[Margaret:] Well twenty four over... no it probably isn't that but what, what is twenty four over? [reading] Material flower in Scotland []
[Terence:] In Scotland....
[Margaret:] Material
[Terence:] Tweed? Don't see what it's got to do with a flower yes weed...
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Terence:] material flower
[Margaret:] E D... so
[Terence:] I mean I don't know but... tedious...
[Margaret:] T E D I O U S... well I mean why would that be? I mean
[Terence:] It's boring dancing outside... T E D
[Margaret:] D I O U S yes
[Terence:] Yeah I don't see why the dancing outside.
[Margaret:] Well this is, this is what I'm wondering, unless it's something from say tedious... it's boring... and think of... necessarily... boring being tedious... outside...
[Terence:] Yes look... O U T... S I D E
[Margaret:] side oh yes. So it was an anagram really.
[Terence:] Yeah. So that's another U....
[Margaret:] And what is it again?
[Terence:] [reading] A social group with plenty of bread []
[Margaret:] Plenty of bread... crust... upper crust
[Terence:] Oh very good [LAUGHTER] I like it. Yes, upper crust. Oh dear... so we've got the two we've got the two U's and we've got the C and the I, yes. Upper crust. Oh dear, right. Twenty four over well if that's gonna be an E, that, that ten down is [reading] thus it's safe to take it in []... thus it's safe... eatable?...
[Margaret:] Thus...
[Terence:] Well
[Margaret:] ...
[Terence:] if you say what's so
[Margaret:] Actually there is no such word as eatable come to think of it, it's edible.
[Terence:] Edible.
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] Yes it is isn't it? That won't do, no, [reading] jack's pitch tar []... er so, right, so that's not wrong
[Margaret:] So what have we got there then?... Well it doesn't matter really.
[Terence:] No.
[Margaret:] It's E...
[Terence:] Blank T blank B blank E
[Margaret:] blank E... and what is it? [LAUGHTER] Oh his studio look [] [LAUGHTER]...
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear, thus it's safe to take it in...
[Margaret:] It's safe to take it in?
[Terence:] Mhm....
[Margaret:] Well I should think it will be a meal alright....
[Terence:] Well... well I suppose we could do the card couldn't we? I've got two letters to post anyway for Jeremy.
[Margaret:] Oh you haven't got that sorted out?
[Terence:] Yes erm... yeah I mean erm I, I've transferred a... a hundred and fifty pounds to him.... So if he phones up... I can say, you know... it's on its way as it were.... So who's this...... is it? And it's?
[Margaret:] Yes,... Oh you've just put, well I always put
[Terence:] Well they don't put it there do they?
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Terence:] Erm... Right, I'll put the stamp on it... and go and post...
[Margaret:] I hate these as it were things you know?
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] [reading] One lagging behind... advertising screen show []... so that's where... forty nine over... trailer
[Terence:] Do you think that could be stew pot?... [reading] Wet post cut up for the cook [] and it's an anagram of wet post?
[Margaret:] Yes, stew pot. Now you d you went and interrupted me there and, and I've forgotten what I was saying... which was right.... Trailer for forty nine over.... [reading] Is sure determined to get in first []... you get a trailer, you know
[Terence:] Mm...
[Margaret:] So now... and this is this one... [reading] much like while I was taking time off []...
[speaker009:] Oh oh, what have you done?
[Terence:] Hello Steve.
[Christine:] Ooh it isn't very often you wear
[Terence:] Oh
[Lucy:] Mummy, I've finished
[Christine:] Alright darling I'll t here you are let
[Terence:] It came off on the playing field and so there was no way I could find the little screw.
[Richard:] Oh it's okay.
[Christine:] Why not?
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER] Is it alright? Shall I leave it? Oh thanks ever so much Steve, that's great.
[Christine:] Fine, I'll do that if you...
[Terence:] You're standing up, I mean that's not good for you standing up eating a meal you know.
[Christine:] Oh he he's spent most of his life doing that Terry
[Richard:] I'm quite used to it now. [LAUGHTER]
[Terence:] What?
[Christine:] He spends most of his life doing that. There, alright then love?
[Terence:] Lovely thank you very much indeed.
[Christine:] pop them back in to you
[Richard:] I'll drop them in later
[Terence:] No I've got my other pair that I wear, you know [LAUGHTER]...
[Lucy:] Bye bye Terry
[Christine:] drop it back Terry.
[Terence:] Right. Bye.... You've heard from Gavin I hear?
[Christine:] Well yes, we did, we rang on Tuesday, we had a bit of a trouble getting through, I think we rung about seven times before we got through... but er... he, well, well he didn't say anything to me, everything I asked him he said yes to, but Steve
[Richard:] He said the skiing was good, it was
[Christine:] Yeah he said it's fantastic skiing, he mind the
[Richard:] He said it was lovely and hot at the top
[Christine:] Don't do it there love in case it comes up.
[Richard:] But he was in the middle of a restaurant he said and I can't, think he felt a bit awkward speaking
[Terence:] Yeah
[Richard:] didn't say too much, you know.
[Christine:] Well he told me off because he was out on the erm bank sledging, outside the hotel... so I called him in.... That didn't sound very nice but he sa he, he weren't homesick, he, I think it must be a nice place
[Terence:] Mm
[Christine:] he said er he normally gets homesick but he hasn't, you know?... Yeah
[Terence:] He's growing up isn't he? [LAUGHTER]
[Christine:] Yeah
[Terence:] Bye
[Richard:] Cheers Terry
[Lucy:] Bye
[Christine:] Bye...
[Terence:] Oh they've heard from Gav well she phoned Gavin yesterday apparently and... he seems to be having a whale of a time.
[Margaret:] Good.
[Terence:] He's not homesick. [LAUGHTER] Not really.... So how did you go, have you got some more?
[Margaret:] Well I just got this patterned.
[Terence:] Patterned? Oh yes very good.
[Margaret:] I'm trying to work out this fifty over here a whisky with bread []?
[Terence:] Rye.
[Margaret:] Oh very good. Yes very good. Well I hadn't got down to the R yet I hadn't reached
[Terence:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] with my alphabet.
[Terence:] Forty eight down... [reading] held in high esteem []... held in high esteem... held in high esteem...
[Margaret:] What's the Nelson touch? You turn a blind eye isn't it?
[Terence:] Yes, where's that?...
[Margaret:] Erm... there, fifty
[Terence:] [reading] The Nelson touch important if you fight like this []...
[Margaret:] What's forty eight down again, what was it?
[Terence:] Held in high esteem.
[Margaret:] I'm just wondering whether it's E D or E S, to fight like this....
[Terence:] That fifty seven is [reading] seep strangely and quietly... in, quietly inside for furtive glimpses [] now... it's quietly P isn't it?... So seeps strangely... peeps... peeps
[Margaret:] Where do you get the other P from there?
[Terence:] Quietly inside.
[Margaret:] Oh the P yes, true....
[Terence:] So that's a P, which