[Arthur:] You've left what where?
[June:] Water in the sink. I'm telling Angela. They're a blight that's all there is I've done all the other dishes and everything.
[Arthur:] Well who were you talking to anyway about the rain?
[Angela:] The staff at
[Arthur:] Oh. What were you saying to them about
[Angela:] We were laughing about it. Cos I was telling them that we were sick of seeing the rain and that.
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Angela:] You know cos the rain won't stop all day. And I said to them I said I watched a film last night called Savage Sea. And I said all the way through the film practically they were praying for rain.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Angela:] Right? And there's us saying that we were sick of the rain. So I says erm someone turned round and said, Oh should come here you can have some of ours. And they were laughing. They were laughing at it.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Angela:] Cos I turned round and said that.... [tv in background]
[June:] Oh never seen that before....
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Angela:] What?
[June:] D'ya want me to erm have this set now for in the morning while?
[Angela:] No.
[June:] Be able to set your clock. Cos you know how to set that don't you?
[Angela:] Mhm.... Nineteen pounds ninety five. Although I don't know.
[Arthur:] Twenty one ninety five and they were twenty two pounds
[Angela:] What's that doing?... What's that doing?
[Arthur:] What's what doing?
[Angela:] That.
[Arthur:] It's recording.
[Angela:] Recording what?
[Arthur:] You.
[Angela:] Why?
[Arthur:] Eh?
[Angela:] Why is it recording me?
[Arthur:] Well why not? Ask your mother.
[Angela:] Why? Well my sister recording this. Where you getting that from?
[Arthur:] Ask your mother.
[Angela:] Where is she? Go and tell her.
[Arthur:] Where are you? Where are you? Your daughter wants you.... She's in bathroom.
[Angela:] What's this?
[Arthur:] She wants to know what that is.
[June:] It it's a test from now till next Friday all the conversations we have.
[Angela:] Why?
[June:] And you know when you have ordinary conversation when we're talking or anything
[Angela:] Why?
[June:] on a conversation. It's for Oxford University to use. If it's anything that's really personal and you don't want it taping you can erase it and you get a twenty five pound voucher next Friday. You do it for Marks and Spencers for doing it.
[Angela:] Oh? So is that yours?
[June:] No it belongs to the people Oxford University use the English language. It's what English language be using now in nineteen ninety. In the libraries and everything.
[Angela:] Oh. So has that just been recording all that I've just all I've just said?
[June:] Yeah. But it doesn't matter does it? I mean you'd have a conversation anyway. We talk in the house don't we? Or we had
[Arthur:] Are you bothered?
[Angela:] Am I bothered?
[Arthur:] Yes.
[June:] She's not saying
[Angela:] Depends what I'm talking about.
[June:] Well you've just talked about
[Arthur:] talking about.
[June:] the rain. There's nothing wrong with that.
[Angela:] Well nothing but d'ya know what I mean it's sort of. It's like at work erm Mark put two speakers one for listening and one for hearing
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Angela:] right? You know in case one of the residence needs help or anything
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Angela:] during the night. So he put one in the living room and he put one in the kitchen.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Angela:] Now the the girls didn't know it was there and it's a good job that they weren't talking about him or talking about anybody.
[Arthur:] Why?
[Angela:] Otherwise we'd have heard what they were saying.
[Arthur:] Oh would they?
[Angela:] Now me I think that's sneaky. D'ya know what I mean?
[June:] Well that isn't because
[Angela:] Because
[June:] if there's anything personal you can erase it. But the more tapes I do and when I've she's coming for it eleven o'clock next Friday. Oh when I do it for the week I'm gonna get a twenty five pound voucher for Marks and Spencers.
[Angela:] Well can we can we rewind that back and listen to it?
[Arthur:] Yeah if you want yes.
[June:] Through headphones but you can't the tape's not full yet.
[Arthur:] But it doesn't matter.
[June:] I think you'd better switch it off anyway hadn't you? Cos nobody's gonna be having a conversation. You're going in the garage now.
[Arthur:] We're having a conversation now aren't you?
[June:] I'm going to the bedroom.
[Arthur:] You're talking now.
[June:] I'm talking now
[Arthur:] Now that is conversation talking.
[Angela:] You're also talking posh as well.
[June:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] I'm not.
[Angela:] You are.
[Arthur:] you're not
[June:] You can erase that now.
[Arthur:] Why?
[June:] Cos you can't I don't want that on the tape.
[Arthur:] You don't want what on the tape?
[June:] What you two have just said to me.
[Angela:] What?
[June:] I want it erased.
[Arthur:] Why?
[June:] Cos
[Angela:] That you're talking posh.
[June:] I don't need you two
[Arthur:] You're doing it nobody else.
[June:] I'm not.
[Arthur:] Of course you are.
[June:] I'm not.
[Arthur:] Of course you are.
[June:] How d'ya press stop?
[Arthur:] How d'ya press stop.
[June:] No it's
[Arthur:] You press the button.
[June:] Which one?
[Arthur:] The one that says stop.
[June:] Can you see? There that's better light.
[speaker004:] The army at Leyland and she would have big stuff on you know. She had a big
[Peggy:] she had a big er a great big cardigan and a fish all way down back. [clears throat] Well, ha David said, we didn't know. And er she says er, what did they call her?
[Ernest:] Who are you talking about?
[Peggy:] Her with great fish on her.
[Ernest:] Oh Miss Anderson.
[Peggy:] Miss Anderson.
[Ernest:] Aye.
[Peggy:] Oh you can have that on. Oh will I sell it. Is it on? Aye [LAUGHTER] Oh well. Er she said er er Doris said, Doris, she says er, Oh captain she says er isn't it Anderson coming tonight? And she said, Yes I suppose so. So [LAUGHTER] she says [], Oh I hope she doesn't come with that great big cardigan on with that great big fish on the back of her on her back on her cardigan.
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Peggy:] She said, She she's big enough she said why do wear that great big fat always have to have heavy clothing. She said, I'm going to see her she said and if she has it on I'm going to take her on one side and I'm going to say, Miss Anderson will you let me tell you how to dress. She said you want nice fine things when you're fat to make you slimmer. Not that great big thing on. And as she was say [LAUGHTER] as she was telling us this the door bell went. And in she come []. And she said and she said thank you she said, Miss Anderson she said she ought to have more sense than come in a thing like that she said to the officers. And of course Miss Anderson entered the door and she said, Oh she said is that talking about me? [LAUGHTER] And you're dad said, Oh no no. And we just flipped right quick you see. And Doris said, Oh thank you she said did I didn't know that we're recording. Well I said it you said it and it's the truth. She said, Why should she wear. It was a great you know er
[Ernest:] I know I remember it.
[Peggy:] er big heavy knitted cardigan and this great big fish on the back. Well it was terrible really. Well we had such a laugh about it you know. She said, Oh she said I thought it was talking about me. So Doris said, Oh well I don't know what's on that she said. [LAUGHTER] Oh dear me. So you see you never know do you? [LAUGHTER] Oh
[Angela:] Well I was telling dad that at work Mark's just got like two speaker things. One's for listening and one's talking into. He put one in one room and one in the other. Well they came in a in a parcel the other the other day. And er he says go and sneak in in the kitchen and put it in the kitchen. So we were all sitting in the living room. Well you could hear everything. And one of the woman one of the woman she came through and she said, I'm sorry, she said, but I'm not happy about that. And I said to dad I said, It's a good job they weren't talking about one of the other staff or anything or about Mark or anything. D'ya know what I mean? I think I think it's sneaky me. I think it's sneaky having that on
[June:] Oh they put it out in to to see if anybody's talking about him do they?
[Angela:] Well not specifically for that.
[Ernest:] Well what's it in aid of?
[Angela:] It's for what it is it's if say like Mark or the staff were upstairs
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] and the residence are downstairs
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] if somebody needed erm a member of staff
[June:] Oh it has to be on all the time has it?
[Angela:] they would hear them.
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] They would hear that they wanted help or anything. I mean we've got call buttons.
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Peggy:] Yes.
[Angela:] But what it is it's come in a great big pack package thing these two speakers.
[June:] Mm.
[Angela:] They've come with erm
[Ernest:] And they're all the time are they?
[Angela:] Mhm.
[June:] Well cos they would have to be won't they? Cos you don't go
[Angela:] Come erm
[June:] just going to have to ring. Couldn't ring.
[Angela:] with coloured felt tip pens.
[Ernest:] Mhm.
[Angela:] And felt tip pens I mean there's about five five lots in different colours.
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] And erm paper crayons pencils it's like a package
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] for er mentally handicapped home
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] and that. And it came with them.
[Peggy:] thing is
[Angela:] Mind
[Peggy:] if I stay in the right place. Then you're not afraid are you?
[Angela:] said you know one there's always one that you don't like when you're working in a big group. Well Molly she was the one that came through and she wasn't happy.
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] She said it was sneaky the way he did it.
[Ernest:] Oh.
[Angela:] If he'd have turned round and said, Look I'm putting this in the kitchen I'm gonna be listening to what you're saying then she wouldn't minded.
[Ernest:] Oh well wouldn't have been saying anything [LAUGHTER] then would they []?
[Angela:] Yeah but she wouldn't have minded.
[Peggy:] if she's not satisfied with it she should tell him. It's no
[Angela:] But
[Peggy:] good telling everybody else.
[Angela:] But they could've been talking about something personal and we would've heard everything they said.
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] D'ya know what I mean?
[Peggy:] Well no if first
[Ernest:] in reverse isn't it?
[Angela:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] Well you don't speak up do you?
[Ernest:] No.
[Peggy:] If you you think it's gonna be recorded and you don't know. Well you just
[Angela:] It is just like a baby alarm.
[Peggy:] Well any anyway personal you know don't talk in a crowd
[Angela:] You can hear them but they can't hear you.
[Peggy:] do you if it's personal
[Ernest:] No.
[Peggy:] at all personal.
[Ernest:] No well that's it. I mean you don't talk personal things
[Angela:] And there should've been
[Ernest:] shout across the room to them.
[Peggy:] Well it's put your own in.
[Angela:] Mm.
[Arthur:] I'm going to pinch a leek now.
[Peggy:] five.
[Ernest:] five. How old am I?...
[June:] Pardon?
[Peggy:] Took his er took er my dad's last whisky.
[June:] [LAUGHTER] Last of the orders.
[Peggy:] Oh dear.
[Angela:] all the residents today.
[Peggy:] Have you had them all there?
[Angela:] I've had them all there yeah. All seven of them came for dinner. It was really a success. [banging]
[June:] Oh.
[Angela:] I'm breaking them in for a horse. Erm
[Ernest:] No you don't need to now. You don't need to.
[June:] I'll put that on side
[Angela:] Erm we just like put a big spread on a big buffet. We had erm little pork sausage rolls
[Ernest:] And you didn't invite me?
[Arthur:] no. Yes.
[June:] Get off your bum then.
[Angela:] Erm we had little pork sausage rolls pork pies cut up erm this is what
[June:] Oh where's my glasses? [LAUGHTER] Where's my glasses? []
[Angela:] This is what erm this is what all the shopping was for when I got drenched. Erm sandwiches we got buns from erm you know where the centre is?
[Arthur:] The will be taking out isn't it?
[Angela:] Safeway
[June:] What?
[Angela:] in the erm
[Arthur:] No it's natural isn't it?
[Angela:] salads erm little hot dogs cut up. We just did a big buffet. In sat the residents down and then we sort of like hovered. You know we just sort of like got our own stuff. We had jelly and cakes biscuits for afterwards. So it was really nice. And then afterwards we went into erm went into the room and erm we put some compact discs on some music on and that. And we got these drawings these these
[Arthur:] Going out anyway.
[Angela:] people and what have you out. And erm did some drawings with them and that. And it was really a nice
[Ernest:] help anyway.
[speaker004:] Cos I said my grandparents were [LAUGHTER] Scottish [].
[Angela:] One of the staff that I work with
[June:] Who was that
[Arthur:] It's a stereo microphone on it as well.
[Angela:] she's erm
[Arthur:] What you doing you?
[Angela:] one of the staff
[Arthur:] Well don't play out with things then
[Angela:] one of erm one of the staff I work with talks like Richard. She's from Kent
[Peggy:] Mm.
[Angela:] and she's got Richard's accent. She speaks very similar accent.
[Peggy:] Mm.
[Angela:] But erm you know when Richard
[June:] Can you get cigarettes love out of my pocket?
[Angela:] when Richard says, Don't worry,
[Peggy:] Mm.
[Angela:] she's got the same accent and she's from Kent and Martin
[Peggy:] Yeah well they're all the same.
[Angela:] But they're all. But she was saying
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] she was say same thing.
[Arthur:] Well that's that's partly what they want to find out as well. Cos I mean if you put Aunty Mary down on there, Yorkshire. I suppose they'd say that's not a Yorkshire accent she's talking
[June:] No but
[Arthur:] But you see this is what they want to find out now the dialect's changed in
[Angela:] In all
[June:] That's it.
[Ernest:] last night but there was a request for
[Arthur:] Was there?
[Ernest:] Yeah. A request for on Frank
[Peggy:] Oh oh Arthur a request from
[Arthur:] oh I know yeah
[Peggy:] That were that were flat [LAUGHTER]
[Ernest:] Now what were they the other week from
[Peggy:] I don't yeah. From [LAUGHTER] near
[Angela:] Yeah granddad I was saying you know when erm you know when Richard was saying it's an insult to be called a cockney when he's not a cockney. She was saying the exact same thing.
[Ernest:] Yes well I said it's not cockney.
[Angela:] It's an insult to be called a cockney.
[Ernest:] Their accent isn't cockney.
[Angela:] That's right they're not. But she was saying the exact same thing cos I was and he acts as my. Goes mad when you have to call him a cockney.
[June:] Well one of us today did he say cockney. Doesn't mean nothing wrong by it
[Peggy:] No.
[June:] it just he says well to me London's cockney.
[Peggy:] Yeah yes.
[Angela:] But it's not cockney.
[June:] No a lot of people say that.
[Peggy:] No but I mean er I don't agree with this I don't agree with this. Er like er Richard said er you shouldn't say bus.
[June:] Mm.
[Peggy:] Well that to me is ignorant. It's picking you up before you fall. It is picking you up before you fall. And I don't agree with that because we're right where's the bus. There's no bus. It's bus if you want to say bus. it's not bus. Alright if they say that's their their talk. Vase a vase. He would say a vase. Yeah he would say a vase. Like Aunty Mary does but they say that down there. Well alright we know what they mean. But why have they change why have it always picking people up and saying er
[Angela:] they're just carrying on.
[Peggy:] it's a bus it's a bus.
[Angela:] He was just winding her up.
[Peggy:] Yeah well I mean they shouldn't wind people up I mean she's just. I mean you if you said a bus I'd said, Oh what's up with our June what's where she what's she who's she trying to. And then these people that do this they don't they?
[June:] But that's on there on that tape. Cos to me I wasn't but they said I was talking posh on the tape.
[Peggy:] No.
[June:] D'ya no I'm not just cos I I said it's a waste of tape.
[Peggy:] Mm.
[Angela:] A waste of tape.
[Peggy:] Yeah.
[Angela:] A waste of tape.
[June:] That's not posh.
[Peggy:] No well you said that a actually as it came. You didn't study it to say
[June:] I didn't study no I just
[Peggy:] Er er you know. Well it's like er now that sometimes when you've been doing the message you know you might talk a little bit different but I mean he's had elocution lessons. If I were took I would talk whatever
[June:] She says I'm doing now she says I'm doing it now she says I'm doing now.
[Peggy:] I would say to the queen what I say to you.
[Angela:] You can't hear it yourself but you are.
[Peggy:] But she's not if it's coming natural.
[June:] I'm doing it now. I always say that.
[Peggy:] What?
[June:] I'm doing it now.
[Peggy:] Yeah.
[June:] That's not posh she says it's posh
[Peggy:] No it is it comes out you see.
[Angela:] Yeah it's not she was
[Peggy:] No
[Angela:] speaking posh.
[Peggy:] Ah she's er when you think about it and say, Well I wouldn't talk posh. I mean as I say if the queen came I would talk how I
[Ernest:] like your nan. She was nearly afraid of me.
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER] afraid of you [].
[Ernest:] You weren't of afraid of me but the accent that I had at that time. You see I'd been Oxford.
[Peggy:] See you said to me, Oh cos I'm ever
[Ernest:] I I was brought up in Oxford.
[Peggy:] so pleased to meet you.
[June:] D'ya know that's how Arthur was when I first met him and and he was. And when I took him out I'm telling you I was just telling Angela, my dad went...
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER]
[June:] you know just like that.
[Peggy:] Mm. Yeah but you see but I mean we weren't broad. I mean there's dad and his mum and Arthur we weren't we weren't broad. So [clears throat]
[June:] Me mother's not broad like me dad.
[Peggy:] No.
[June:] Me dad was broad.
[Peggy:] Mm. But I would've never I would've never said to your dad well he's saying ah he weren't too broad in my opinion like but he was broader than your mother.
[June:] He was broad but he knew
[Peggy:] But er
[June:] his manners mind you.
[Peggy:] well of course he did. Yes I mean that's noth that's that's nothing to do with it. But er no I don't care how. We had a lady at Dixon [clears throat] Mrs Brigadier. And she said to me, she was from Manchester, well she used to talk Manchester Lancashire. And she said to me she said, Mrs she said, I like to hear to talk because she said you don't put no airs on. She said you say what you've got to say and people understand you. She said and that's all that matters. She said er er now well Doris used to say erm what's this tea
[June:] Angela says
[Ernest:] She what's that tea?
[June:] No. this tea mum? Angela says when I'm on the phone she can hear me Stoke on Trent accent. Well I can't help I don't know when
[Peggy:] No no
[Angela:] Yeah but when you're talking to somebody official you speak posh.
[Peggy:] Oh she doesn't she doesn't
[Angela:] [mimicking] Oh hello. Oh hello. []
[Ernest:] Look who's talking.
[Peggy:] Yes look who's talking. No
[Ernest:] Look who's talking.
[Angela:] No granny
[Peggy:] well I don't and I think I know
[Ernest:] So do you.
[Angela:] I don't.
[Ernest:] On the telephone you do.
[Angela:] I do not.
[Peggy:] Now I will say to you, Come on June what we having for tea? But if there were somebody posh here I might say, What are we having for our tea? I might say that.
[Ernest:] Now in Lancashire there are different accents in Lancashire.
[June:] says if if there were a tape record on you would say, Now what are we having for tea?
[Peggy:] What are we having for our tea? I thought about it.
[June:] I've got no airs and graces.
[Peggy:] No neither would I.
[Ernest:] When we went to Leyland we would say, What we having us tea? But in Leyland they said, What we having for tea?
[June:] Yeah.
[Angela:] Well I say
[June:] Can you imagine Aunty Emma being on she say, Nay.
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] Nay she'd say yeah.
[June:] D'ya know
[Ernest:] What I
[Angela:] What are we having what
[Ernest:] what are we having for the tea.
[Angela:] what we having what we what we having for the tea.
[Ernest:] So that
[Angela:] Yeah.
[June:] It's just something you're not doing it deliberate.
[Peggy:] No. Well I think the daft I say they say they pick us up but why I don't know. Because when you say, Away man.
[June:] I know.
[Peggy:] Well you're er goes away.
[June:] I know.
[Peggy:] Why d'ya except to come to you when they're say away. Daft isn't it?
[June:] Yes.
[Peggy:] No
[June:] David was on that tape
[Peggy:] Stay away man
[June:] with laughter
[Peggy:] Stupid.
[June:] someone put Stoke on Trent because that's where he's from.
[Peggy:] Mm yeah.
[June:] Not from here.
[Peggy:] No. I mean it a there are accents where they are.
[Angela:] speaks Geordie.
[Peggy:] Well he does. But it but it's er
[June:] I don't care but he was
[Peggy:] but I don't know why. Because it is blunt Geordie's our David's speech.
[Angela:] Well yeah when Michael's up he starts speaking Stoke.
[Peggy:] Yes but I mean Michael doesn't speak Geordie. I mean he's he's proper silly is David.
[June:] You can hear
[Peggy:] Why I that's Stoke isn't it?
[June:] Mind sometimes if it's
[Peggy:] If it's
[June:] it's not done deliberate. I've noticed when, mind I do it deliberate sometimes, but ordinary I don't. It's because I'm with my I'll say duck.
[Peggy:] Mm. Well I did [LAUGHTER] the other day didn't I []? It just slipped out.
[June:] Yeah yeah.
[Peggy:] I mean er I never say that normally.
[Ernest:] I mean we've picked words
[June:] But mum
[Ernest:] from all over the country.
[June:] I've more or less lost that sense of being with Arthur. But on the odd occasion it'll slip out.
[Peggy:] Yes.
[Arthur:] See did you hear that?
[June:] You can't tell.
[Arthur:] Being. Whereas they'd say bin.
[June:] I would not.
[Peggy:] No she wouldn't.
[Arthur:] She would. She'd have said, Since I've bin with Arthur. But cos that's on she says cos since I've with Arthur.
[June:] No I
[Peggy:] I think
[June:] all the time.
[Peggy:] I think you you talk as it comes.
[June:] I do yes.
[Peggy:] Well like I do and if if I say
[Angela:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] er
[Angela:] Normally she'd say yeah.
[Peggy:] We shall have that, or shall we have that. Or er
[June:] You might just think always
[Angela:] Nan. You know what she's just said then?
[June:] picking you up before you fall aren't they?
[Peggy:] Yes yes.
[Angela:] Aren't they.
[June:] Well I do say
[Peggy:] Yes.
[June:] that.
[Angela:] Yes. You know when she said erm
[Arthur:] than what you have.
[Angela:] You know when she said, You do yes. Normally she'd say, You do yes.
[June:] Not all the time.
[Peggy:] They do don't they? She'd say if you weren't thinking. No your mother talks your mother doesn't talk posh. She talks what she's been born to talk.
[Angela:] She when when the tape's on or
[Peggy:] No you don't.
[Angela:] or if she's on the phone. Mum she nan she don't normal.
[June:] I don't think so.
[Angela:] She does cos
[Peggy:] Cos she'd say.
[June:] No she wouldn't.
[Peggy:] She'd say, Blah don't talk to daft June. Where's your bus. I mean Aunty Mary, well I don't given up talking to her she'd she says bus and I just let it go.
[June:] Yeah well Richard does that Richard says it's not bus it's bus.
[Peggy:] It isn't where do they get the bus and bath. Bath is [spelling] B A R T H []. It's [spelling] B A T H [] it's bath.
[June:] I know. It's bath. [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] It's Newcastle not Newcastle. But if they say Newcastle well alright but I wouldn't say anything.
[Angela:] Newcas Newcastle.
[Peggy:] I wouldn't say anything because it's ignorant. Picking people up before they fall. You know what they mean and that's all that matters.
[Angela:] And they don't say, I know. They say, I know I know.
[Peggy:] I know.
[Angela:] I know.
[Peggy:] Yeah. Yeah well if they say that I wouldn't say I wouldn't pick them up.
[Angela:] I know I know
[Peggy:] It's
[Angela:] I know.
[Peggy:] picking them up before they fall. Picking people up before they fall.
[Angela:] Oh no. Oh no. [LAUGHTER] My sister says that a lot. Oh no.
[Peggy:] She'd just get a bash across the mouth if you kept picking me up.
[Arthur:] Does she mess about with your as well?
[Angela:] Well I'll tell you what
[Peggy:] I should say I've just as much
[Angela:] When I was down there for the weekend I was speaking their accent. Dad said.
[Peggy:] Oh well your dad used to got to Scotland for the day and when he come back he was Scotch.
[Angela:] I know.
[Peggy:] I mean he didn't need to go anywhere.
[Angela:] Erm when dad
[June:] When he'd been home for a month.
[Peggy:] Mm.
[June:] He was talking an American.
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] When dad phoned us when I was down there he says, When you come back you can get rid of that acce you can get back to your own accent.
[Arthur:] You can drop your acc you can drop that accent.
[Peggy:] Yeah but Arthur she only takes after you for that.
[Angela:] I can't help it though. Wherever I
[Peggy:] Because you used to to that.
[Angela:] go I pick up the accent. It was like when I went down to Liverpool. I started speaking
[June:] Oh but Geordie.
[Peggy:] Does she?
[June:] Yeah. Don't she?
[Arthur:] Oh aye.
[Peggy:] But er you don't need to say, Oh aye. You say, Oh yes.
[Angela:] And they kept on saying I know I know I know I know. And I kept
[Peggy:] You was brought up to say, Oh yes. Not, Oh aye. Oh aye
[Arthur:] I don't pass myself to tape recorder
[Peggy:] No. I know you don't pass yourself out. I think you're you're you're not passing yourself you're not speaking as you ought. Because you would never dream of saying, Oh aye.
[Angela:] Oh aye.
[Arthur:] I would.
[June:] Because Geordies say that don't they?
[Peggy:] Now June's father would say, Oh aye. But it he'd he'd take it and forget it.
[Angela:] Oh aye the
[Peggy:] No. And he could he would
[June:] And he would say he would say waiter for water or water.
[Peggy:] He would bet it.
[Arthur:] Who?
[June:] My dad.
[Peggy:] But not you. Because you've not been brought up to speak broad.
[Arthur:] Oh haven't I?
[Peggy:] No.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Angela:] Oh haven't I.
[June:] Why haven't
[Peggy:] You haven't been you haven't been brought to speak
[June:] Me dad was broad but me mother wasn't
[Angela:] Ooh [drawn out]
[Peggy:] Shh. But you've been brought you've never had any slang
[Angela:] Ooh [drawn out]
[Peggy:] from us.
[June:] I wasn't brought up mum
[Peggy:] Granddad didn't use slang because he were Norfolk man.
[June:] I wasn't brought up having
[Peggy:] Now June June'd say what granddad said, Ask'd June'd say, I asked you I asked her. Like we would say. June would say, Ask'd That's a bit of the the Norfolk in her. down there weren't you?
[June:] Dorset.
[Peggy:] Dorset. And that is a bit of that. Cos er cos er my my dad used to say that.
[Angela:] Asked.
[Peggy:] No not asked. Ask'd.
[Angela:] Ask'd
[Peggy:] There's something else. There's another way of and An Angela'll say it. But it's not ask I mean it's it's er er
[Angela:] What?
[Peggy:] takes after. 'Tisn't Lancashire.
[Angela:] What?
[Peggy:] Well I can't just remember what the word is now. But I'll tell you next time I say
[Angela:] Would?
[Peggy:] it.
[Angela:] or, I saw.
[Ernest:] No.
[Peggy:] Saw her.
[Angela:] I saw her.
[Peggy:] Saw her. Your mother says, I saw her.
[Ernest:] Well that's Norfolk.
[Peggy:] Well that's Norfolk. My dad used to say, I saw her. He say, I saw her.
[June:] I've always said that.
[Peggy:] Yes well it's your er your Dorset in you. [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] I've got all sorts in me.
[June:] I must have all sorts in me.
[Peggy:] But because you say, I saw her, it isn't it isn't wrong. We all know what you mean.
[June:] Actually I should speak some Geordie with having a Geordie mother shouldn't I?
[Peggy:] We all know what you mean. Well she were she weren't broad Geordie you see.
[June:] No she's what you call as as Arthur says, A posh Geordie.
[Peggy:] Well no. She she's doesn't talk
[Ernest:] Allan at Leadgate. He talks with a Geordie accent but it's a cultured Geordie accent.
[June:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] Why now what was there somebody on the television Frank was saying
[Angela:] from Hartlepool.
[June:] lived next door to us. Now honestly you could hardly tell what he says can you?
[Ernest:] Well I says to your mother one time when we'd been downtown and your passing through
[Peggy:] Ooh Roy is awful int he?
[June:] Terrible.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Peggy:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] I said I said to her, They're talking foreign language. talking real broad Yorkshire.
[Angela:] You say, Int he, a well.
[June:] Well I say that.
[Angela:] Broad Geordie.
[June:] Yeah well that's [LAUGHTER] probably got that []
[Peggy:] Yeah well I say, Int he. But it or if I were to be thinking I'd say, Isn't he. Or I might say, Isn't he.
[June:] talking to your dad some things if if er I don't agree on something I'll say, Nay Arthur [LAUGHTER] that's Aunty Emma isn't it []? I used to love, ee I used to love going, Nay. [LAUGHTER] You know. []
[Peggy:] What next.
[Arthur:] But my language on the platform's entirely different to what I speak
[Peggy:] Yeah but not
[June:] You're not broad Yorkshire
[Peggy:] but you're not posh Charlie.
[June:] Charlie Williams int it that's broad Yorkshire int it?
[Peggy:] Yes.
[June:] Charlie Williams. Cos I said many a times Arthur
[Peggy:] No.
[Angela:] You say, Thee, though.
[June:] Well
[Peggy:] There you go. [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] No you know what I mean. Granddad says, Thee.
[June:] Yeah yeah he does say, Thee. Cos I've heard him say, Thee.
[Peggy:] No he doesn't say, Thee, when he might when he's fooling about with you.
[Angela:] says, Hey thee.
[Peggy:] No he doesn't. Not not for normal talk. No granddad doesn't say, Thee.
[Ernest:] No.
[Peggy:] Thou aye
[June:] Who says thee thy though thou isn't
[Peggy:] Quakers.
[Ernest:] It's er the
[Peggy:] Know I am with thee always. Yes he'll say that. But not not when he's
[Ernest:] Quakers talk
[Peggy:] not when he means you.
[Arthur:] I don't think that comes up much in conversations though does it?
[June:] I think it was James that was in a film once
[Peggy:] What?
[Arthur:] Thou though I am with three.
[Peggy:] No but I was saying that, Thou I am with thee always, that it wouldn't say
[June:] Do you remember that film James was it James was in it wasn't he?
[Peggy:] when he means you. He would say, Thee come here.
[June:] Did you tape that today?
[Peggy:] Well me dad might have done.
[Ernest:] You come here birdie.
[Peggy:] But er no that's what Arthur used to say, [LAUGHTER] Come here birdie. Never say, Come here. He say, Come here birdie. Your dad. []
[June:] Some of the Geordie accents I can't understand them saying, Away man.
[Peggy:] No well they say, Away man, and expe expect child to come to them.
[June:] I say come here.
[Peggy:] How can you come to you're always saying, Away. How can he
[Angela:] But you don't say, Away.
[Peggy:] You do. You say, Away man.
[June:] Away man.
[Angela:] No you say, Away.
[Peggy:] Well, Away man.
[June:] That's stupid.
[Peggy:] You say away you mean away.
[Angela:] But you don't not if it's a Geordie child it knows to come there otherwise it gets a clip across the lug.
[Peggy:] What?
[June:] If I was talking to my
[Peggy:] You say away when you mean come here. [LAUGHTER]
[June:] and they were behind I'd say, Come here now hurry up.
[Peggy:] Yes.
[June:] You know.
[Peggy:] Yes.
[June:] You know.
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ernest:] If you break your leg don't come running here to me.
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] What?
[Peggy:] What says.
[Angela:] You what?
[Peggy:] If you don't break if you break your leg
[Ernest:] If you breaks your leg don't come running to me crying.
[Peggy:] If you break you leg don't come running. How could you come running if you broke your leg?
[Ernest:] if you breaks your leg don't come running to me crying.
[Angela:] If thou breaks the leg
[June:] Don't come running to me.
[Angela:] If they breaks the leg. If they
[June:] If thou breaks the the leg
[Ernest:] Don't come running to me.
[June:] running to me.
[Angela:] If thou breaks the leg don't come running to me. No. [LAUGHTER]
[June:] Oh dear.
[Ernest:] when he was a
[June:] My dad had a problem saying broken he'd probably say, Broken.
[Peggy:] Yeah mm well he had a little bit of of er what shall we say slang if that's the word. But he wasn't he wasn't
[June:] Wasn't dead rotten No.
[Peggy:] No. But we didn't I mean never Arthur never had any broad broad broad Lancashire. Arthur never heard. Because me dad didn't talk broad Lancashire. Me mother didn't because she weren't Lancashire.
[Ernest:] Mm?
[June:] Never er not what you can call swear me dad you know.
[Peggy:] No.
[Arthur:] Well where did grandma come from?
[Peggy:] My mum came from Bacup.
[Ernest:] Bacup.
[June:] That's Kent int it?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] No.
[June:] Thought Bacup was in Kent.
[Angela:] Lancashire? Lancashire int it?
[June:] But there is a Bacup in Kent int there?
[Ernest:] I don't know.
[June:] Yeah there is.
[Peggy:] Bacup.
[June:] Bacup in Kent.
[Peggy:] Then they came to live at.
[Angela:] Why d'ya mean
[Peggy:] Why?
[June:] Where did Aunty Lilly's husband come from? Did he did he come from?
[Peggy:] Yes he was from er. Yes.
[Ernest:] So a language all of her own when she's on the phone talking to us.
[Peggy:] Me dad came to live er me dad from Norfolk he came in shepherd boy
[June:] [LAUGHTER] she had a bit of Geordie [].
[Angela:] But the best one out the lot I do Stoke.
[Peggy:] What is the time please? [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] The best accents I do out the lot of them is yours.
[Peggy:] The best I
[June:] I don't talk like that any more now because people think I
[Peggy:] You do as your own
[June:] I've lost me own. Just the odd word now.
[Angela:] Just the odd word now.
[Peggy:] It comes out what you want it to come out has to come out.
[June:] I've been with your dad that long I just
[Angela:] I've been with your dad that long. Been with dad that long. You you can tell you're from Stoke on Trent.
[June:] Well how come then people say, What part of Lancashire you from?
[Peggy:] Yes.
[Angela:] Because they're ignorant.
[June:] Or
[Peggy:] No they're not ignorant. Not ignorant when they say. Well they are ignorant cos I would never say which part of. Fellow said to me the other week you don't live here. I said, Oh yes I do.
[Angela:] Stoke on Trent.
[June:] It isn't.
[Angela:] It is.
[June:] That's Lancashire.
[Peggy:] I would never pick anybody up.
[June:] Well I think I talk more with a Lancashire accent than I do a Stoke on Trent accent.
[Peggy:] If you can tell what you say that's all that matters isn't it?
[Angela:] You wait till you rewind that tape back and listen to yourself and you'll hear Stoke on Trent. I know cos [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] Stoke on Trent you're saying Stoke.
[Angela:] Cos mum does.
[Peggy:] Well it's not Stoke it's Stoke.
[Angela:] It's Stoke.
[Peggy:] Stoke.
[June:] Stoke.
[Angela:] Stoke on Trent.
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] You listen to Michael talking. You say to Michael
[Peggy:] You my brother.
[Angela:] If you if you say to Michael, Michael where do you come from? He say Stoke on Trent. Stoke.
[June:] D'ya know what our Michael says when he he's telling anybody's not there he's coming up here? Our Michael
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER]
[June:] when he's telling anybody in Stoke on Trent that he's coming up here. He'll say I'm going to Durham. He doesn't say South Shields. He says I'm going to Durham.
[Angela:] I'm going to Durham I'm going to Durham see. I'm going to Durham. That is Stoke I'm going to Durham.
[Peggy:] Yes well it is but
[Angela:] You alright duck.
[Peggy:] But she's a right to say that because she is
[Angela:] You alright duck?
[Peggy:] She is right to say
[Angela:] Oh you little duck. Oh you little duck.
[Peggy:] but she doesn't say it very often.
[June:] What's his name Bobby, Oh you little duck. [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] Oh you little duck. I love accent me.
[Peggy:] She doesn't say
[Angela:] She's really broad isn't she?
[Peggy:] Well she's Stoke. Stoke or whatever you want to say.
[June:] Blaydon. I used to live at Blaydon.
[Angela:] Blaydon.
[Peggy:] Stoke or whatever you want to say.
[June:] Well that's what it's called Blaydon. Actually speaking proper Eng proper English it's Blayton ton.
[Angela:] Blayton.
[June:] Not Blaydon. I say Blaydon.
[Angela:] Blaydon.
[Peggy:] make her own dinner aye Arthur?
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Angela:] Well it's like Harpenden.
[June:] Well there's nobody likes talk
[Angela:] You don't you don't
[Peggy:] Aye you can.
[Angela:] Harpenden you say Harpenden.
[Peggy:] Oh I always think about Mrs. She I I mean she were brigadier and she'd gone through all her life
[June:] [LAUGHTER] I bet realize she said that. []
[Peggy:] What?
[June:] Aye they can.
[Peggy:] What?
[Angela:] Aye they can.
[June:] [LAUGHTER] Then she said Arthur say that. You just said, Aye they can []
[Peggy:] What? Can what?
[June:] I said if nobody like the way I talk they can lump it and you said, Aye they can.
[Peggy:] Mm.
[June:] Aye.
[Angela:] Aye aye you see?
[June:] [LAUGHTER] They're not threatening to []
[Angela:] Nan says, Aye, a lot. You say, Aye, a lot you do.
[Peggy:] Well
[Angela:] I've never heard you
[Peggy:] I am
[Angela:] hole in the ground with water water.
[June:] Only the odd occasion I've heard your nan say, No. But Aunty Annie used to say, Nay, a lot.
[Peggy:] I am the great I am. [LAUGHTER]
[June:] Aunty Lilly used to say, Nay, didn't she?
[Peggy:] [singing] I'm the yes I am. [] I'll say this if anybody wants to
[June:] I say this
[Peggy:] pick fault in way I talk well I don't think to hear
[Angela:] [mimicking] Well I tell you []
[June:] as broad as Aunty Annie.
[Peggy:] Pardon?
[Ernest:] She is.
[June:] To me Aunty Annie didn't
[Ernest:] But
[Peggy:] Oh no.
[June:] as broad as Aunty Annie.
[Ernest:] But if you hear her on a if you hear her on a tape recorder she is.
[June:] Mm.
[Ernest:] We've two or three recordings of Aunty Annie and er
[Angela:] You're saying
[Ernest:] she is broad on them all.
[Angela:] You say about Richard's accent if you hear his sister she's even broader.
[Peggy:] No I don't say anything about Richard's accent. He lives down there he's Harpenden. He's southern. Alright.
[June:] Well he doesn't live down there now.
[Peggy:] Well let me ex he is he's southern. So that's their talk. I mean I I don't mind
[June:] place int it?
[Angela:] But you listen to Richard and you listen to his sister and hear the difference and they're both from the same place.
[Peggy:] Well I don't know why that is.
[Angela:] You hear the difference.
[June:] When I hear Richard I can hear Aunty Mary.
[Ernest:] You get that in lots of
[June:] Richard I can hear Aunty Mary.
[Angela:] Well you can when you hear his sister.
[June:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] I mean you wouldn't you wouldn't think for one minute that Aunty Mary came from.
[June:] No.
[Peggy:] But she was more southern than Vic. Weren't you?
[Ernest:] Mm.
[June:] Although when she stayed with us in Aug
[Ernest:] he speaks with a southern accent.
[Peggy:] Yes Uncle Billy. Well to me it
[June:] When she were talking to us Aunty Mary you could hear some Yorkshire accent.
[Ernest:] You could hear the Yorkshire coming through.
[June:] Yeah couldn't we?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Peggy:] Cut glass and you could fall through window.
[Angela:] Couldn't we?
[Peggy:] Yeah.
[Angela:] Couldn't we.
[Ernest:] If we had Aunty Mary
[Peggy:] Well you don't
[June:] You don't.
[Peggy:] say what you're saying.
[Arthur:] What?
[June:] Talks posh Uncle.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[June:] He pronounces er don't he?
[Peggy:] Yeah well if. Talking glass cut glass and
[Ernest:] you see first of all it was the fact that she was living amongst and
[Peggy:] Ee well living with Sally and Sally was. Sally wouldn't talk that.
[Ernest:] But Sally never really went out to work. He did. And he was
[June:] Definitely talks posh.
[Ernest:] I mean was a man he was management.
[Peggy:] Yeah I know but well why haven't you got?
[Ernest:] Because I haven't
[Peggy:] Talking like your fault.
[Ernest:] No.
[Peggy:] All over the world you've been.
[Ernest:] Well I've got bits of everything.
[Peggy:] But you're still
[June:] He's not rough.
[Peggy:] He's no. So why
[June:] Aye?
[Peggy:] Be the day that he's ever been.
[Angela:] Dad.
[Arthur:] I'm not.
[Peggy:] you are. Yes you are.
[Angela:] What?
[Peggy:] Yes you are. Because turn it off a minute [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] turn it off a minute.
[June:] Off a minute.
[Angela:] Dad. D'ya call Stockton people as Geordies?
[Arthur:] No.
[Peggy:] No.
[June:] But they are aren't
[speaker004:] Big rolls of cloth in the mill.
[Peggy:] Yeah seen Arthur Arthur.
[June:] Yeah. Yeah. Well our Ar we used to have to carry their own. But out Annie she was because erm ship you know and our Annie used to have to carry her own. Well she used to have to give some give somebody sixpence which were a lot of money in them days. Carry it for her. Sam would never carry it. And he would never let our Emma carry it. And all nasty things he did to her. And the doctor said, Yes. And that's what it's all about. It's been so impregnated in the child's mind that she just Well they just couldn't they couldn't fathom it because he used to
[Peggy:] did you get on alright?
[June:] Well yes in a way.
[Ernest:] We didn't have a lot to do with him really.
[June:] Well I kept well I I got on alright with him cos he I were a lot younger and he used to give me sixpence to go and get some ice cream so as I them would be on their own a bit you see. Well.
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER].
[June:] I thought you were wonderful giving me money and I'd be right quick and he'd say, be so long getting that. Here's another sixpence go for something else. And I thought he were wonderful cos he kept giving me money you see. And even he had like their their wedding ring was in a little purse. Well when that Joe and Annie got married Joe gave me the little purse with a threepenny bit in. Well felt a millionaire with threepenny bit. And that when our Alice got married Jim gave it me with a threepenny bit in. But when Sam got married he's had to have a sixpence in. You see he was that always had to be showing off and. But er oh he wasn't liked at all.
[Peggy:] Aunty Emma children but she miscarried didn't she?
[June:] Only one she had that's all. But er
[Peggy:] two
[June:] Oh she he was nasty. And er
[Peggy:] She were really good to ours one she was.
[June:] And she she used to say used to say, Oh he had a watch a gold watch and he'd dangle it in front of her. Dangle it for her to play with. You know. But she just bash it out of it and it'd hit his face and of course he went mad then. But he would give her anything then but it were like the doctor said it was too late. The damage had been done. Cos he said What I say. Cos she said to the doctor she said, What's the matter with her? She not told me she's no pins sticking in her. And it she had a right talk to him and he said, Well that's it. He said, with one person? And she said, Yes. She said it's only with him. Oh he said, That's it. Oh me mother used to she was to have a sofa in front of the window. Me mother used to go in and lie down when she'd been to the work.
[Peggy:] Was it Aunt Aunty Emma that had it a bit rough?
[June:] his mother. His mother. My mother and dad didn't go to Aunty Emma's wedding.
[Peggy:] Did they not?
[June:] No. Because he he want he wanted to be married at nine o'clock in the morning for a start off. Me dad says, Well I can't go then. He said I can't go at nine o'clock I can't. Well poorly man then and I mean he hadn't come round till dinner. He said, No Emma I can't there's no way I can be at a wedding to give you away at nine o'clock. And er oh his mother had been every so nasty she said, Before you would get married she'd gas him. Sam. Oh it's terrible. And er so you see on the wedding er card it had on er, Mr and Mrs Shaw request the pleasure of Mrs Abbott at their daughter's wedding. So I'm told. And when me dad saw it he said, Well that's a lie for a start off. He said I don't want to request her pleasure. He says, She's caused more bother in this house he said than enough. He said, So that's a lie for a start off. So of course our Emma got it and tore it up and threw it in the fire. And then he said er, Well he said I must
[Peggy:] Aunty Emma didn't she? I'm not an Aunty any more.
[June:] Well I mean she she hadn't to have one part of the house. It wasn't and hers. Mother had to have a nose in. And there were three
[Ernest:] Three names on the
[June:] three names
[Ernest:] on the.
[June:] Oh she was a was his mother. She had to go and she had to go and live with them he couldn't get married without. He used to mother had to be going living with them. And all this you see so [cough] me dad said, I'm not so bothered about him coming either.
[Peggy:] house then? Aunty Emma's husband. together.
[June:] The three of them
[Ernest:] No three of them
[June:] three of them. at it. And then er so our Emma said, Oh well if you're not don't want don't want these to come she said alright and she said she all the invitations and threw them all on the fire. So that's it then she said there'll be nobody come. So she said, There'll be there'll be me there'll be Sam Jack Jack
[Peggy:] Is that the
[June:] No you wouldn't know Jack. He'd be dead before you came along. And who else? Our Annie.
[Peggy:] Well wasn't he a that were in army once?
[June:] Well that was the four of them. No that weren't that was Fred, brother.
[Peggy:] Oh.
[June:] So that were four of them. Said which we. And then she said, Oh well. My mother said, Well you're not going Arthur I'm not going that's it. And she said, We can't get married at nine o'clock in the morning. Oh no he wouldn't have had me in any case. we hadn't to go. We hadn't to go even. Anyway we did get about ten year old we did go. But me mother didn't go. So she says so he said that she said, Oh what about the breakfast. Will you make a wedding breakfast for for the officers there were two officers and Sam and Emma and our Annie and Jack. About six of them. So my mother said, Oh well yes if that's what you want me to be to be a servant. I'll be I'll be I'll do that. And then Sam said, Oh well me mother will have to come. So mother were coming. Then he were having some Aunts come from er his Aunts from er Manchester. So they had to come they were la-de-das. Then er me mother said, Right. Oh well me mother said, If they're all coming right all my family's coming. They'll all come to the tea. So our Alice and Jim they didn't go to the wedding. Our Alice and Jim our Annie were best er were maid of honour so she were there. And Joe didn't go that were four. Who else? There were Sam and Harriet. They didn't go. Our John and Molly they didn't go so that were eight. So my mother had all her family spread for the tea. She said, Yes if that's where you want me, she said, I'll be there in the kitchen. It was awful. Then when they did get married they did get married. Then when they went to the photographers half past ten shut. So I don't know where they did get their photographs taken at the finish. Cos he it well I don't know. Nobody told me that bit.
[Peggy:] Did Aunty Annie used to wait then? She weren't waiting when I knew her.
[June:] Yes Aunty oh yes Aunty Emma went to Street.
[Peggy:] Oh yeah. Must have retired.
[June:] Oh dear no. Nobody liked him. Nobody liked Sam.
[Peggy:] Int it funny how our our lads talk about Aunty Emma.
[June:] Well then our er see our Sam had
[Peggy:] How do they remember him?
[June:] pneumonia. And er well they all sat up. Well I didn't because I weren't old enough like I were only young. But they all sat up with him at night and er he said er to our Emma, We're going out on Saturday night going up. And she said, No, she said, I can't go tonight she said. I always remember like I were only little but I remember these things you know. She said oh she said I it mind turn to sat with our Sam. So she so he said, Why should you sat with your Sam she says cos he has a mother and father. She said, You're not stopping. He were boss of her. And er she says, Well, she says, If the others have stopped it's my turn. He says, No turn about it. Tell them you're not stopping. But she didn't. Whatever he whatever he said was law. He was the boss. And cos
[Peggy:] Shouldn't be any bosses who should be
[June:] No but everybody were all all up against him you see. And our Alice, oh our Alice she hated him. He was so nasty with her.
[Peggy:] Did you get on alright?
[June:] And our Sam. Well there again you see were only young and she'd be alright with him I suppose.
[Peggy:] Loved children though mum didn't she?
[June:] Oh our Emma did yeah.
[Peggy:] I mean when our lads were missing we always knew where to go.
[June:] Of course. When she got married in a red wedding dress well oh dear me. Married in red you say wish you were dead our Annie says. By gum she she had some trouble on him not half.
[Peggy:] She were ever so good to the lads though.
[June:] You'd and all that.
[Peggy:] Do his
[June:] And then when he got a bit more money we thought he were too big for his shoes. He'd a lot going and. And then when he took he wheeled about in a wheelchair he'd say, [mimicking] I want to go to army Emma []. And she'd wheel him from from their house right up to the station. You know where station is? Right up there and wheel him back and our Annie'd say, Yeah and I'd wheel him as well. Wheel him and let him all over her. Oh no none of them liked him. Sad really.
[Peggy:] She always had kettle on
[June:] but our Emma were alright.
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER] No matter what time you walked in mum, she'd always kettle hadn't she? []
[June:] Oh our Emma were alright. Ooh aye. You see he was a
[Peggy:] You were just a baby.
[June:] fireman and yet he wouldn't he daren't go to sleep with the light off. But brave enough to go and fight fires and but he wouldn't stop in with himself. Or he'd he'd have to have light on all the all night.
[Peggy:] Aunty Emma wasn't she?
[June:] Oh yes.
[Peggy:] Our David always remembers his teas and everything and that.
[June:] I were only saying to a lady this morning about ee aye our Emma used to come to Leyland with a a wad of ten shilling notes new and we'd go to er Southport wouldn't we? When they come to their holidays you know. She'd bring me dad for his holi holiday.
[Angela:] Southport?
[June:] Mm. And we used to go on Lord Street. Yes. We used to go on Lord Street and he used to be where they sold luscious cakes. And she'd say er
[Peggy:] I went there
[June:] yeah. And she'd say er, Now come on let's go let's go. Yeah we all went to Southport as children.
[Peggy:] Yeah I remember.
[June:] She said, Let's on in she said and er I know
[Ernest:] Where were we then? Were we at Newcastle?
[June:] No.
[Peggy:] Newcastle under Lyme.
[Arthur:] I think you must have been.
[June:] Yeah. Well we were at hol at holidays at their house. And children of course we
[Peggy:] Yeah well that's because
[June:] And er she'd say, Now come on never mind pressuring Ernest to do any cakes let's go in. And we'd go in and then I'd say to her, Now I'll pay. No you're not paying baby. I'll pay. And she used to love taking a new ten shilling note out of and I've saved this for holiday. And of course we never took anything off her like for
[Peggy:] She were a kind person.
[June:] for keeping because. Well we did a little bit because but I said, No I don't want anything Emma. She said, Listen I'm giving a little bit Peggy because, she said, I couldn't go away if I couldn't come to you. She said, And I'll give you a little bit, she said, you must have it or I won't come. So she did give but she would pay for wherever we went in a cafe. With this new note you know. I am not of that now.
[Ernest:] Oh no.
[June:] I mean that's all taken away. And if you give somebody a pound coin they think your giving you two P.
[Peggy:] She were kind though weren't she Aunty Emma?
[June:] Oh aye.
[Peggy:] I mean we used to go about three times four times didn't we and we oh I bet every time we went she gave him a twenty packet of number ten. Me a twenty packet of number ten. Cigarettes you know.
[June:] She encouraged them to smoke and then she'd say be smoking.
[Peggy:] Ee mum if you'd have seen them cigarettes. all them cigarettes that were in that Uncle George
[June:] Yeah and as well
[Peggy:] the stuff I have never seen so much stuff. Toothpastes and all sorts.
[Arthur:] Don't know what she had toothpastes for cos she'd false teeth.
[Peggy:] Well all the cigarettes but they weren't just number tens there was Benson and Hedge weren't there and all sorts. Of cigarettes piles. We went out somewhere and when we come back they were gone. They were gone weren't they?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] I says to them
[Ernest:] Well what I couldn't understand was
[Peggy:] It's all them cigarettes though.
[Ernest:] was there?
[June:] Emma.
[Arthur:] Oh well I think I smoked at the time.
[June:] Well John yeah and our Sam calls John at times He smoked Harriet smoked cigarettes.
[Ernest:] Aye Harriet smoked cigarettes.
[June:] At the time.
[Peggy:] Yeah cos they were all in there. And when I got I says to here, I'm sick of having to out all them cigarettes. I never got
[Arthur:] No.
[Ernest:] When we went there were a little carrier bag with only a tiny little carrier bag
[June:] It were her give it us.
[Ernest:] What it? Oh
[June:] Course they did.
[Ernest:] I thought they left it for us.
[June:] Oh they left it that I was to give to to Arthur and June. Packet of sugar and and tea and what have you. And I said. Well we're not taking that home you can have it. Didn't I?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] Yeah. And she Aunty Alice
[June:] Hey d'ya know I never realized till last week
[Peggy:] give her some crockery or something.
[June:] do you know how much she had personal money?
[Arthur:] Who?
[June:] Aunty Emma.
[Arthur:] No.
[June:] How much d'ya think?
[Arthur:] I'd have no idea.
[June:] Forty pound.
[Arthur:] Mm?
[June:] I said I never realized she'd only that bit. Forty pound it said in her will. That's all she had.
[Arthur:] Have you heard owt about that
[June:] No.
[Arthur:] Oh well.
[June:] Ee I said I think I'm going to write and say I don't know what you're
[Ernest:] You know what's happened the Chancellor said I'll deal with it then.
[June:] Well I think we're lucky they must be keeping it a bit longer for interest of something to all out.
[Peggy:] have you?
[June:] No. I wouldn't be having
[Ernest:] Well not a will for for you know somebody like that.
[June:] All all her be spent in two minutes.
[Peggy:] And yet you say you had a letter didn't you again.
[June:] Yes. About a month ago.
[Peggy:] So it must be coming around.
[June:] Well it says everything's being sorted out.
[Arthur:] will be through before that will be.
[Peggy:] Yeah.
[June:] Everything is sorted out now it says. Just waiting for some tax forms.
[Ernest:] I was saying to your mother this morning I wonder whether Prince Harry will become the Earl.
[Arthur:] No there's already been somebody be come. There's already somebody come.
[Ernest:] Oh is there somebody?
[Arthur:] Oh aye.
[Ernest:] There's a has he has he a son?
[Arthur:] Aye he's a son.
[Ernest:] Oh he has a son.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] I thought he'd just a few girls.
[Arthur:] No no he must have. No he had a son cos he said on teletext that er somebody be come I think it's the twenty eighth Earl of Spencer or twentieth or something like that.
[Ernest:] Oh
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] Well after all
[June:] Yeah. D'ya want to pick a up?
[Angela:] No thanks nan.
[June:] Sure?
[Ernest:] What?
[Arthur:] What?
[Angela:] I would hate to be in the royal family.
[Ernest:] Hate to be in the royal family?
[Angela:] Mhm. Well they they've got no privacy at all.
[Ernest:] Well nobody has privacy who's in public lives.
[Angela:] I mean who erm who wants to watch their mum grieving over the dad? D'ya know what I mean?
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[Angela:] It's ridiculous.
[Ernest:] Well she must have thought a lot of
[Angela:] I mean who wants to get a paper and see on the front of the paper a girl or or Lady Diana crying over her father. D'ya know what I mean? It's a pity they've got nothing else better to do. I was fuming me. I was fuming. I would tell them all where to go. If I had flipping cameras round me all the time I'd tell them where to go. Cos I wouldn't I would hate it they've got no privacy.
[Ernest:] Well well she did when she was first married didn't she?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Ernest:] And Charles.... [conversation in background]
[Peggy:] And yet soon as he died they were all there. And yet Aunty Julie Aunty Julie tell Mary and she had the audacity [banging] ooh, to say to me she says, What are you doing here? I said to her I have every right to be here he's my father. And I used to see my dad all the time.... [conversation in background]
[June:] One minute you'd have been saying, Yeah you can have this hand.
[Peggy:] It's been like that dad this past fortnight.
[June:] You'll be saying to him, D'ya have to have this on.
[Arthur:] I never say that.
[June:] Yes you do.
[Ernest:] Now they'll feel better.
[Angela:] I'm just doing anything I'm just doing a pattern. Started off as a flower.
[Ernest:] What?
[Angela:] It started off as a flower. It's just turning into a pattern.
[June:] You... [conversation in background]
[Ernest:] when you go back?
[Angela:] What will happen when I go back? Eight till two.
[Ernest:] Eight till two. Oh that's not too bad is it?
[Angela:] No.
[speaker004:] We've got bread in.
[Arthur:] Aye that's true.
[June:] so all's we really need is cigarettes.
[Arthur:] Yes.
[June:] In fact there's a on Lane. We just
[Arthur:] Yeah there is.
[June:] to your mother's really that's all. You only need to carry the fags and milk.
[Arthur:] Aha.
[June:] You what Angela?
[Angela:] .
[June:] What's she saying?
[Arthur:] Your remote control?
[Angela:] .
[Arthur:] I don't know, where's he put it.
[Angela:] ....
[June:] What remote control?
[Arthur:] Where've you put it?
[June:] You mean your video one?... It's there.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] There.
[Arthur:] Where?..... Yeah.
[speaker004:] What's funny?... What you doing?
[Richard:] I'm not doing a thing. You're doing it.
[Angela:] What you laughing at then?
[Arthur:] . [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] You're waiting for what? What you waiting for?
[June:] Why don't you put a deck chair out there?
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER].
[Richard:] Ooh [LAUGHTER].
[Angela:] What?
[Richard:] You nearly got that all down your back.
[June:] Why don't you put a deck chair there?
[Richard:] No.
[June:] Better than sitting on the.
[Richard:] No I'm okay.
[Arthur:] You nearly ripped me head off earlier. penknife.
[Angela:] [shouting] Ow. []
[Richard:] sorry. I thought it was a loose one.
[Arthur:] I forgot to leave me penknife so she ripped me head off.
[Angela:] Will you stop it.
[Richard:] Ah....
[June:] ?
[Arthur:] You what?
[June:] chairs.
[Arthur:] Oh I don't know now.
[June:] that there.
[Angela:] .
[Richard:] No it's not.
[Angela:] It is. Will you stop it.... Eh?... Will you put it away.
[Richard:] What?...
[Angela:] Don't pull that.
[Richard:] Why not will your head fall off?
[Angela:] It might....
[Arthur:] Hello.... Mm. Mind you I ain't.... Well actually I was sorely tempted to put back. it only happens since we put clocks forward. The day we put the clocks forward it's done nowt but rained.
[speaker004:] Yeah....
[Arthur:] come back where they come from.... You can't lie on that, that's granddad's coat.
[Angela:] .
[Arthur:] It is now.
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]....
[Angela:] It's alright, I don't smell.... I don't smell you know....
[Richard:] ... [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Richard:] Okay?.
[Angela:] Get lost.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] What are you doing?....
[Richard:] .... rip the heads off the daffodils.
[Angela:] .
[Richard:] She had a go at me for pulling out a You know you Just er the other week we walked from where was it?
[Angela:] What? .
[Richard:] and we were walking along and there's all these daffodils so I went and picked one and I give it to her.... Thing to do you know.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Richard:] And she says, I don't want that.
[Arthur:] That was a romantic gesture.
[Richard:] Thank you. So I chucked it in the Tyne. And then we walked on a little bit further and there was big clumps of them everywhere they was. So I just went up, big handful, pulled 'em out, give them to her. She says, You rotten sod [LAUGHTER] they were living [] they were. She said, how would you like it if I come along and ripped your head off. Mm....
[June:] What you doing with granddad's mac?
[Angela:] .
[June:] Ee.
[Richard:] .... up there a few times with.
[Arthur:] Oh aye. [LAUGHTER]
[June:] I don't think they're every twelve minutes there hasn't gone an eighteen up yet.
[Arthur:] ... One day when we get that shed away in the back of there....
[Richard:] Mum will you sit down for five minutes.
[June:] Aye?
[Richard:] walking around.
[June:] I'm always like thi
[Richard:] Get a chair and sit down.
[June:] Aren't I love?
[Arthur:] Enjoying a healthy....
[June:] I'm looking o
[Arthur:] ....
[June:] You're your job Richard? mower cut the grass. [LAUGHTER]... Cut the grass Angela.... No.
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER] Get off.
[Arthur:] No what?
[June:] No. It's empty.
[Arthur:] Empty?
[June:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Angela:] on it?
[June:] No. Probably come on the eighteen.... [whispering]. []...
[Arthur:] There's an eighteen coming up anyway.
[June:] By 'eck you've gone quiet.
[Richard:] Eh?
[June:] You've gone quiet.
[Richard:] Who?
[June:] You.
[Angela:] .
[Arthur:] That's an eighteen....
[June:] No just a woman on with a white hat.... No. Just a woman on with a white hat.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[June:] Can I Road.
[Arthur:] Eh?
[June:] They could be down Road.
[Arthur:] No they said they were going down town for some Krona. To....
[June:] ... that er....
[Arthur:] Eh?
[June:] Is that wood or is it?
[Arthur:] Where?
[June:] There.
[Arthur:] That there?
[June:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Dad's it's off that.
[June:] Oh
[Arthur:] that erm
[June:] two big plants are coming on aren't they?
[Arthur:] Yeah....
[June:] Well there won't be another bus up yet will there?... Did you see the eighteen across there?
[Arthur:] Where?
[June:] In them houses.
[Arthur:] No. No I heard it.
[June:] Oh. They must've missed that one. They're usually in by now....
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER].... [LAUGHTER]...
[June:] You said get one of them chairs.... Where does grandma keep the chairs now, in the outside cupboard?
[Angela:] .
[Richard:] Dunno.
[Arthur:] It's gonna rain in a minute.
[Angela:] .
[June:] table here love. Look.
[Arthur:] Eh?.
[June:] table.
[Arthur:] .
[Angela:] Ow ow.... Mum.
[June:] if you break her arm.
[Angela:] He's hurting me.
[Richard:] I'm not.
[June:] all week.
[Angela:] Get off.
[Richard:] ....
[June:] .
[Angela:] Eh? Dad?
[Arthur:] What?
[Angela:] Can I?
[Arthur:] No. [LAUGHTER]. You started it.
[Angela:] I didn't, he did. Will you let go....
[Arthur:] Don't start something you're not prepared to take back.
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER] No. No no. []
[Arthur:] You hurt her didn't you.
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER] No. []
[Richard:] Mm?
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER] have a stitch. No. [shouting+laughing] Mum help. No. Help mum. Mum help. [] [LAUGHTER] [shouting+laughing] Richard. [] Ow.....
[Richard:] She dared me....
[Arthur:] for yourself now.
[Richard:] Who?
[Arthur:] I'm saying she can sit there and feel silly for herself now.
[June:] Who's side are you on.
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]....
[June:] Mm do you know, we're gonna get wet. [LAUGHTER] Oh don't be awful. []...
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER]
[Richard:] [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] Mum tell 'em.... They're all ganging up on us....
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Angela:] All ganging up on us.
[June:] ....
[Angela:] You're picking on me.
[June:] Ah. Have you got that body spray on?
[Angela:] Yeah.
[Richard:] Smelly.
[June:] Mm it's awful.
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER]
[June:] Ooh. oh quick..
[Angela:] .
[June:] Hey pick that cup up.
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER] No. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] Five fifty from Avenue down at bottom. Or five eighteen.
[June:] Well the five eighteen goes to a side street
[Peggy:] Angela?
[Ernest:] five eighteen
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] Oh well.
[Peggy:] .
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] Eh?
[Ernest:] .
[June:] Just this morning.
[Peggy:] .
[Ernest:] . I don't know whether it's this weekend No I got some other.
[June:] One eighty four for the two payments.
[Peggy:] Angela.
[Angela:] What now? No you're alright, they give you bags.
[Peggy:] Are you sure?
[Angela:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] Cos I want five pounds.
[Angela:] Yes they give you bags.
[June:] Oh it doesn't matter.
[Ernest:] Angela?
[Angela:] What you want?
[Ernest:] You.
[June:] Oh I see.
[Peggy:] What do we want special salad for?
[Angela:] [shouting] Oh. []
[Peggy:] What what er
[June:] Angela hang on a minute.
[Peggy:] to mind them on Wednesday.
[June:] How much is how much is.
[Peggy:] How much do you how much do you want?
[June:] Well normally I get five pounds.
[Peggy:] Well how much is ten pounds.
[June:] So five pound a pound at forty six at ninety two a pound So that's
[Peggy:] A pound a pound.
[Arthur:] Well say a pound a pound.
[June:] A pound a pound.
[Peggy:] So that's ten pounds, well you'll have enough money there won't you?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[June:] Yeah..
[Peggy:] You'll have to carry a basket darling.
[June:] Yeah you'll have some change. You'll have some change cos it's
[Angela:] Will erm
[Peggy:] Now your mother wants hers as well so you'll have to get a basket. You give your lass the money. You want ten pounds your mother wants some
[June:] It's four sixty mum for five pound.
[Angela:] Oh ten pound'll then.
[June:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] Yeah.
[Angela:] Right. Er
[June:] That's nine pound twenty.
[Peggy:] That that'll be enough will a pound bus fare won't it?
[June:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Peggy:] Cos I haven't got a lot of cash.
[June:] Eighty P it's not more than eighty P your bus fare is it?
[Peggy:] two buses or summat I don't know
[June:] You don't need two buses. Who says two buses, it's not two buses.
[Angela:] It's nowt to walk down
[Peggy:] No well I'm saying I don't know.
[Angela:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] Have you broke that sink?
[Angela:] .
[Peggy:] Have you broke that
[June:] What about my bus.
[Peggy:] It's bus B U S, where's your bu where's your bus.
[Richard:] she said bus.
[Peggy:] Well.
[June:] That's his, smack him. Smack him mum. He's picking me up on my bus again.
[Peggy:] Speak proper as I do. Anyway go on. Aye you've got your money haven't you.
[Richard:] Mhm.
[June:] You better.
[Peggy:] You've got your money safe have you? Come on.
[Richard:] I was brought up po proper I was.
[Peggy:] Yeah well so was he.
[June:] So was I.
[Angela:] Go on hit him.
[June:] Ow.
[Angela:] Go on hit him mum.
[Ernest:] No Metro running.
[Peggy:] No Metro trains running.
[June:] Oh heck well you'll have to go on bus.
[Richard:] On bus yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[June:] Don't be picking me up.
[Richard:] On the bus.
[Angela:] Yes walk.
[Richard:] .
[Ernest:] Trains are running from Newcastle anyway.
[June:] But they aren't from here.
[Peggy:] Cos it said they were off between the airport and where was it, Central
[Angela:] Told you but would you listen?
[Arthur:] That was this morning.
[Angela:] No you wouldn't.
[June:] Well.
[speaker004:] I think I'll write to Krona and say will you send a.
[Arthur:] Huh?
[June:] I say I think I'll write to Krona.
[Arthur:] Saying what.
[June:] And ask 'em to send a.
[Ernest:] they won't do that.
[June:] They will you know.
[Ernest:] Oh no..
[June:] You what?
[Ernest:] You've got to buy it through their recommended outlets.
[June:] Well if they don't sell 'em what can you can't buy 'em can you.....
[Ernest:] Perhaps they've stopped selling.
[June:] but why?
[Richard:] They had er Krona low fat.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[June:] I don't know I don't like that do you?
[Arthur:] No..
[June:] today's date.
[Arthur:] Eh?
[June:] Don't forget today's date.
[Richard:] No.
[June:] .
[Angela:] .
[June:] Would have been. They've been chasing Richard all round the [LAUGHTER] grass, all round the lawn [].
[Peggy:] I've noticed I've no money.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] Seventy eight today.... Cor seventy eight. He must've been dead eighteen years.
[Peggy:] Was he was he.
[June:] No we buried him didn't we on August the eleventh.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Peggy:] . But eighteen years, so Auntie 's been dead how long?
[June:] Nineteen years..
[Richard:] Well I wonder if they're gonna be on tomorrow?
[June:] Oh 'eck you better find out hadn't you. He's gotta be back on board his ship on Monday.
[Ernest:] Well they're running buses.
[June:] He's got the times six o'clock
[Richard:] Is it a replacement service.
[Ernest:] bus re bus replacement.
[Richard:] Oh well that'll be alright.
[June:] Six o'clock it leaves central station his train.
[Richard:] Mm
[June:] He's mad isn't he. All that money to come back again.
[Peggy:] Yes well it's alright They're mad if they want to do a thing.
[June:] .
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] no money.
[June:] eh he says, then I were transferred to another one, then from another one, to another one.
[Peggy:] It's surely money for right things. It just annoys me when they're always fagging.
[Ernest:] I've had a thought. together. When he's coming back
[June:] only because you said, speaking hypothetical. S say it's January the tenth you've to put that were funny because, January the tenth, April the tenth. And Angela said to me and I your grandad said that, just speaking hypothetically.
[Ernest:] Well that was only a.
[June:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] As an example.
[Peggy:] Yes but is he coming home at tenth or is he gonna be
[Ernest:] It is it is still next year isn't it.
[Angela:] He'll be on the tenth
[Richard:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] The tenth next year, not this year.
[Richard:] .
[June:] On a Saturday.
[Ernest:] Cos they could they could do it this year you know.
[June:] On a Saturday.
[Peggy:] Well ask him.
[Ernest:] [LAUGHTER].
[Peggy:] We does he mean this year or next?
[June:] No no next year. April the tenth. He who did he get it off? The wh he said in fact it's just come in for the programme or something hasn't it. They've just come in for ninety three.
[Ernest:] Er when he comes back, from this far eastern tour,
[Richard:] Yeah?
[Ernest:] would he like to use our address? For registering.
[June:] Oh I don't know?
[Peggy:] did you like that tuna Arthur?
[June:] I did
[Arthur:] Eh?
[Peggy:] Did you like that tuna?
[June:] I did tell him how much it was I said sixteen pound sixteen pound for Angela.
[Arthur:] What tuna?
[Peggy:] I gave you a of tuna and
[June:] And thirty pound for the registrar.
[Arthur:] Oh yeah, yes ta.
[Ernest:] Now whether it will be thirty two pound if they go together maybe only be sixteen.
[Arthur:] Ah.
[June:] No. We'll see what says.
[Ernest:] See what he says
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] coming to him and saying to her
[Ernest:] No yeah no
[June:] Do you know what you're doing, have you a bag? Yeah right, oh thanks, for you.
[Arthur:] For me.
[Peggy:] Well it's not for him personally
[Arthur:] Oh I see
[Peggy:] . That's something I don't eat.. I'd rather have salmon me.
[June:] .
[Peggy:] He's loves it that much it's been there heaven knows how long.
[Ernest:] Well because you're not fond of it.
[Peggy:] Well of course
[Ernest:] You see she'll eat it but
[June:] We got er you know the tall tins of pink salmon mum? We haven't had one for a couple have we?
[Peggy:] Oh
[June:] One twenty nine it was wasn't it?
[Arthur:] Mm.
[June:] No I don't like them anything like that I can't eat. Pilchards, tuna
[Peggy:] Yeah well, them salads just taste the same. get
[June:] I love salmon.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] Do you know dad's salad. I I could live at it. You for that mum aren't you, salad. I can live of a salad.
[Peggy:] Now then.
[June:] I eat a lot of salad. I put on it you know.
[Peggy:] Oh I don't know you've changed your mind. Where's where's that butter is that know whether it's butter or not.
[Ernest:] I've put it in the fridge.
[Peggy:] I mean the things is
[June:] You mind that being on do you?
[Ernest:] Eh?
[Peggy:] Eh?
[June:] You don't mind that being on, if you've got something to say
[Ernest:] No.
[June:] I'll switch it off.
[Ernest:] No.
[June:] me tape.
[Peggy:] What say that's personal.
[June:] Well it was the way that you said if there's anything you can just
[Peggy:] . Well we'll try that. I think you've to try it and not know.
[June:] Well.
[Peggy:] That's what I think.
[June:] Yeah leave it for me.
[Peggy:] When was that Krona at first, I said to dad. He said, it's alright. So I said, well, put it on me bread and don't tell me.
[June:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] And he did. And then we liked it so that was for ever more. Now this it says, I can't believe it's not butter. But what it is, heaven only knows.
[Ernest:] Well
[Peggy:] Well we'll try it We'll try it and see what it is.
[June:] Strange isn't it.
[Peggy:] Oh I don't like to try that. Then we'll see what it is.
[June:] Aye.
[Peggy:] like it now.
[Ernest:] Mm, yeah good, I like it.
[Peggy:] I'd rather have it on bread I said.
[Ernest:] Well you'll get it on bread.
[Peggy:] Hey don't you shout at me.
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] Yeah mind your eyes' ll pop out.
[Ernest:] ..
[Peggy:] That's alright love.
[Ernest:] Yes
[Peggy:] put it on a biscuit....
[Ernest:] I wish you'd keep the fridge door closed.
[Peggy:] Well I'm gonna.
[Ernest:] No you're not, you have to close the door.
[Peggy:] .
[Angela:] where does butter melt.
[Richard:] .
[June:] [LAUGHTER] look at his face. I don't like that what
[Peggy:] Well we'll have to see on the bread. I'll have a biscuit as well.
[Ernest:] Well.
[Peggy:] we have to try won't we Arthur.
[Ernest:] Well she bought that in case that wasn't so nice.
[Peggy:] Pardon.
[June:] . I can't remember last time I had best butter.
[Peggy:] Lurpak seventy nine.
[June:] Must be a long time ago love isn't it since we had best butter.
[Peggy:] they they make you sick do people. Oh I must have best butter. Well
[June:] Krona tastes just
[Peggy:] they can't tell the difference I mean there's nothing In fact if I can't get Krona at Presto and I can't get it at Co-op, I shall write to Kr to Pre to Krona and say I'll have a I'll have a box.
[Ernest:] Aye you wrote to e you wrote to 'em once before didn't you.
[Peggy:] So send it me the there's nowhere where you can get it here.
[Ernest:] She said.
[Peggy:] I mean we've been very
[June:] Er I think they've got it at Presto on. Krona.
[Ernest:] Ah but they're dear
[Peggy:] Well I'm not bothered about that if you can get it.
[June:] It can't be much dearer than forty six can it.
[Peggy:] Oh yes it can be fifty
[June:] But I know when we went in Co-op the other day, last week were it there was a load
[Peggy:] So long as we can get it, that's all I'm bothered about.
[June:] of Krona in because
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[June:] we put some up. In fact we got another didn't we and we used it all
[Peggy:] I'll get a box of Krona. [LAUGHTER].
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] Arthur?
[Arthur:] No one of them one of them
[Peggy:] .
[Arthur:] No them things that's open on there.
[Peggy:] .
[Arthur:] I don't know.
[Peggy:] you don't have butter on them.
[Arthur:] You do.
[Peggy:] Do you eck.
[Arthur:] I do.
[Peggy:] Oh no You can't tell which
[Arthur:] Here silly.
[Peggy:] No.
[Arthur:] Look. Oh aye you put butter on them.
[Peggy:] Oh no love. Cheese biscuits, no do you eck.
[Arthur:] .
[Ernest:] Oh no.
[Peggy:] No.
[Arthur:] It's only a little bit, you don't bowl it on. Well erm well Well you do with Krona but not with that.
[June:] Did you ring this morning?
[Peggy:] No.
[June:] Somebody rang mum at half past nine.
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[Peggy:] at that time..
[June:] Somebody rang at half past nine, he was.
[Ernest:] half past nine this morning.
[June:] He was. And I was half and half and by the time I you know, to come down to answer it mum, they'd gone.
[Ernest:] I haven't.
[June:] I can't think who it was. It wasn't Angela's boss.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] It wasn't Angela's boss cos she asked h she went down for you this mor er half past twelve. Flipping 'eck. She had to ring Darlington. Darlington give her phone number of. She had to ring, Yorkshire, they give her the phone number to.
[Peggy:] Well why didn't she
[June:] Cos she wanted to ring before going.
[Ernest:] Doesn't she know 's number?
[June:] She does now
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[June:] cos she's got it, but when she rang he wasn't in. And then he said try it again and she rang and she asked, she said had the cheques come.
[Peggy:] Well why do they
[Ernest:] Mm.
[June:] No.
[Peggy:] I thought you said she'd to cash it at Barclay.
[June:] No I said it's to stay in the bank. Three days.
[Peggy:] Well that shouldn't be when it's his cheque should it.
[Ernest:] No.
[June:] It's crossed.
[Ernest:] No.
[June:] Cos it's crossed.
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[June:] But it doesn't matter anyway cos I've give her some money and I'll give her her other money Mm. I'll give her other money on Wednesday and then I'll leave that in the bank.
[Arthur:] . No it's it's it's not nice er it's you know it's it's bland. It wo it's it's like.
[Peggy:] Well put some salt on it.
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] No for me salt.
[Peggy:] Alright.
[Ernest:] Hey has he got?
[Peggy:] They're not going to pay poll tax?
[Ernest:] Yes they are..
[Richard:] Mm. Do they?
[Ernest:] Yes.
[Richard:] Really..
[Peggy:] when Angela's form, I mentioned that and the woman says if you're in any kind of forces, you are exempt. When I went in with Angela's form
[Ernest:] Well they were because don't you remember one of the
[June:] and forces.
[Ernest:] armies er one of the regiments er they took them to court.
[June:] Aren't they?
[Ernest:] for not paying.
[Richard:] I remember summat about it, yes. If if they're land based if you're land based.
[June:] He's not land based you see all the time I think it's if you're land based.
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[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] that lad pays it.
[Ernest:] He pays it.
[Peggy:] He does.
[Ernest:] British Marine. Yes he pays poll tax.
[June:] .
[Peggy:] Yeah. to me. butter for tea.
[Ernest:] Er what am I doing, yes I want
[Peggy:] Well you want a cup of tea coming.
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[Peggy:] now what you doing?... to that corner. have you er have you er
[June:] that's what she said.
[Peggy:] yet.
[Richard:] .
[Peggy:] Well.
[Richard:] .
[Peggy:] .
[Richard:] Well you can.
[Peggy:] Well you don't know darling, you might.
[Richard:] No.
[Peggy:] Well you wouldn't have thought
[June:] comes out the Navy he will have to pay then.
[Ernest:] Oh yeah.
[Peggy:] You'll have to go and see about it then.
[Ernest:] Whatever happens er poll tax is abolished after.
[June:] We've got to go in Monday about our rent.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] Yeah it says you have been assessed twenty two forty seven
[Ernest:] Mm.
[June:] And they've got eighteen fourteen.
[Arthur:] go off now.
[Peggy:] I don't know how they can make mistakes like that they send you a letter one minute and then on your rent book's different.
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[Peggy:] see what that's like.
[June:] We've got one of them.
[Ernest:] What? Oh yeah?
[June:] Good aren't they?
[Ernest:] Yes.
[Peggy:] What.
[Ernest:] Separator and beater.
[June:] Separator and beater
[Peggy:] Oh donkeys years. use it.
[Ernest:] Blackpool.
[June:] Eh?
[Ernest:] at Blackpool.
[Peggy:] got this as well Did you get a
[June:] Thirty pounds.
[Peggy:] Did you get erm... one of them?
[June:] No.
[Peggy:] What was it like what's yours like then?
[June:] With a lid on. Wh with a lid on.
[Peggy:] Oh ours hasn't got a lid on.
[June:] Er it's er I don't I microwave goes on the the
[Peggy:] Oh no this is for microwave.
[June:] Oh no it's for the
[Peggy:] Oh yeah microwave.
[June:] And it's a three one. And it's plastic but it cleans ever so easy other one.
[Peggy:] microwave.
[June:] I don't use t'other one now.
[Peggy:] Haven't you got one for haven't you got one for the gonna give it you for microwaving if you wanted it. I d
[June:] Oh yeah I'll have one.
[Peggy:] Well do you want that one there cos there's only two of you, we've a two one. microwave.
[Richard:] What's that.
[June:] mam doesn't use that. microwave.
[Ernest:] No.
[June:] You'll use it won't you, cos he uses the microwave a lot. He uses the microwave practically for everything.
[Peggy:] in water.
[June:] Eh?
[Peggy:] you're got to stand it in a dish in water.
[June:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] And you've got to prick your eggs.
[Peggy:] Aye prick your eggs
[June:] You've got to prick your eggs and you've got to stand it in a dish of water..
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[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] Eh?
[June:] He says he'll have it mum.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] .
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] .
[Arthur:] How much water have you to use?
[Peggy:] Eh?
[June:] How much water he says have you to use?
[Peggy:] What did you say?
[Arthur:] How much water have you have you to use?
[June:] Cos we have these pyrex dishes, you can put it in one of them.
[Peggy:] Well you just you know. Put it in water Hey that thing you did the other day, did you did you put it [break in recording]
[Ernest:] What?
[Peggy:] When you did it in the microwave the other day?
[Ernest:] No I did them in er We did them in the
[Peggy:] Wait a minute.
[Ernest:] glass.
[Peggy:] Yeah but without water?
[Ernest:] No.
[June:] You can't prick your egg though till it's all cooked can you?
[Ernest:] No oh yes. Boom stuff flies all over.
[Peggy:] Did you not put any water in at all?
[Ernest:] No there was no water in at all.
[Peggy:] You just stood it Well you could stand it like it it is then.
[Ernest:] Yes.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] He says how long do you leave it dad?
[Ernest:] Er no more than three er a maximum of three minutes. You've to.
[June:] You've to watch it for a maximum of three minutes you dad says. four of us....
[Peggy:] Now then, you see, all these things in this carrier, they've no business to be in. You always say.
[June:] Eh?
[Peggy:] All them things in there that's no business to be in that carrier. And they always say I'm nattering. I don't car who's money it is.... There's no reason never be without any money.
[June:] but we're not are we love.
[Peggy:] all the same. Any fool can spend money. I don't mind I told Arthur tell us. And we'll lend you some but I'm never without money. You cannot be without money.
[Arthur:] post office this morning
[June:] you know.
[Peggy:] silly.
[June:] Cos e the other day I left her forty pound dad. That was like for her ticket as well. See he ticket was twenty four pounds. And then with her not getting any money, you know. They haven't stopped her any national insurance stamp.... Dad they haven't stopped her any national insurance stamp.
[Ernest:] No not this time.
[Angela:] How much did you say it was gonna be mum?
[June:] Nine pound twenty. Is that right.
[Richard:] Eight pound twenty
[June:] It's gone down then.
[Peggy:] Well that's alright.
[June:] They dropped it down again to forty one.
[Arthur:] What?
[June:] Look. Forty six on mine, dropped it down.
[Peggy:] Oh well that's better still.
[June:] Yeah that's better still....
[Peggy:] You see, you'll have to get that bus darling to get down there.
[June:] forty one. Ee and last week when he were 'ere we paid forty six a packet didn't we?
[Angela:] One pound eighty change.
[June:] I'll have to get some more on Wednesday if it's forty one.
[Richard:] .
[June:] That's eighty two.
[Angela:] You know what I did though don't you?
[Richard:] .
[Angela:] Left my bus pass in me jacket pocket.
[Peggy:] them's careless things you'll always want your bus packet.
[Ernest:] .
[Richard:] I don't know what you put it in somebody else's pocket for, you've got pockets of your own.
[June:] Four pound twenty.
[Angela:] Cos them pockets in that.
[Richard:] I mean what would happened train to London.
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[Peggy:] Aye. Aye.
[Angela:] Oh yes.
[Ernest:] .
[Angela:] Oh they've moved it up aye.
[Ernest:] You know the one outside
[Peggy:] Ask him now he's here.
[Ernest:] Yes. Dad and I have been talking.
[Richard:] Mm.
[Peggy:] And say no if you don't want. You're sure about your poll tax aren't you.
[Richard:] yeah because he's land based.
[June:] Ah that's it. That's what he said.
[Ernest:] the marines definitely do pay.
[Peggy:] We're not interfering Richard with anything you do. It's only and suggestions. We're not interfering, we don't care what you do, you do what you want, but we think of things where very often you wouldn't. So that's all we we do and and interfering cos we're not.
[Ernest:] Right now when you come back from this far east trip, would you like to have this as your address?
[Richard:] What as in... I'm not with you.
[Ernest:] Well
[Peggy:] yet.
[Ernest:] No I will tell you this first Er when you put the banns in, you've to put yours in
[Angela:] Oh I've told him.
[Ernest:] You've told him about this
[Angela:] Mm.
[Ernest:] have you.
[Angela:] Nearest to his home address.
[Richard:] You mean because they live in a different county.
[Ernest:] What.
[Richard:] Hertfordshire.
[Ernest:] Hertfordshire is it, oh right well. Er... well we thought that [break in recording] You're going to have to go down there aren't you? And you're going to have to be there during the week. Because they won't open on Saturdays. So what we thought was, if you use this as your address, you can go together South Shields. Yeah together and I'm wondering whether we could put them in together if we wanted a sixteen. But er think about er and er make your mind up. Because er
[Peggy:] In other words he can give this as his address.
[Ernest:] He can give this as his address.
[June:] Yes.
[Richard:] Er but would would I have to be r actually registered here?
[Ernest:] Er
[Peggy:] Well you would be registered here then wouldn't you.
[Ernest:] This i this will be your This will be your address and you'll officially be married from this address.. Doesn't make any difference. This will be the address that they'll
[Richard:] I mean what I what I'm saying is, when you go in to put your banns in,
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Richard:] Erm do you have to be registered say with the council at that address?
[Ernest:] Oh no. No. Erm... no you don't have to be registered with the council. Er but we shall er... we shall say, this is your home address because we shall have to tell the council, but er you're not here, you're at Steve's.
[Richard:] Mm.
[Ernest:] . It won't make any difference to our er rebate.
[Peggy:] You see it's like when. You see when when mother died, before we were married. Well no home you see, so I got
[Ernest:] Well you used my address didn't you?
[Peggy:] No you used our address.
[Ernest:] I yes I did the same thing
[Peggy:] . Well we didn't think about now. We said using their address, it wouldn't look very nice, both of you.
[Richard:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] the same address. bother about things like that but they do. But we didn't think about it because it was so Well I was so excited. So we had to put our address. You see. So we never thought about
[June:] even though it wasn't there mind.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] .
[Peggy:] Yes I know
[June:] I used me mam and dad's.
[Arthur:] Aye yeah that's right.
[Peggy:] But as as I say there's no reason why
[Ernest:] Anyhow, think about it but you know, I mean, plenty of time. Er er you don't
[June:] That's summat else we've had to think about not being nasty are we or anything, but as soon as you get married, your marriage certificate'll have to go for housing. Because say you're living with us, that does affect us.
[Richard:] Yeah it will.
[June:] Because it did remember when Michael was at
[Richard:] Well no No only if you turn round and say that we're giving you board. That is the only way it'll affect you.
[June:] Yeah.
[Richard:] If you turn round and say, well you know you're just putting us up until they get a place but they're not giving us any money, they c they won't take anything off you.
[June:] Yeah but they do. They did did it with Michael.
[Angela:] They did did did it with Michael.
[June:] Did it with Michael. The rent went up to thirty pounds a week.
[Richard:] You see family.
[June:] You see we were on income support you see.
[Arthur:] But she's family as well you see, so she becomes an independent, once she's married, she becomes an independent then they're e they expect you to when you're on income support.
[June:] I mean we're not being nasty
[Angela:] But we can until we get a house, we can we can live with you can't we?
[June:] Oh yes.
[Peggy:] Because I mean
[June:] Although they might ask where you're living mightn't they.
[Peggy:] Yes but
[Richard:] It's alright
[June:] No.
[Richard:] It won't make any difference.
[Peggy:] Yeah but I mean, even then they're not going to live with you be nothing You can't help that. Naturally it goes up.
[June:] If the changing forms and It's like Angela, by time they sort it out being on income support, the Poll Tax
[Angela:] married.
[Peggy:] Cos I mean to say, even if it is your father
[Ernest:] No been a lot easier last time.
[Peggy:] .
[Angela:] I know.
[Peggy:] Well you don't
[Ernest:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] already agreed and there were two beds there.
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[Peggy:] Oh you've knocked me off now. and when they're married they're married
[Ernest:] I'm going.
[Peggy:] . Well they you won't be paying it. So it doesn't make any difference. Naturally they're not gonna come and. When we got married we didn't go in another house. But I used to pay a half to every bill. Because there was there was dad and me and there was my mother and dad. So we used to pay half to everything. And now er you're like getting more than me so I so I want er I want so much more rent and we used to pay half. And I used to pay half of the gas bills, half of the electric bill. And half to everything. And. Just half to all the bills. I paid. Then when Arthur came along, I said to me mother now there's a baby now, what now. Then. And even when me mother died, me dad still paid his half. So that you have your they're not so daft as to know that two people who are going to come and live even if Richard's away half the time. You you you still. And then listen. When you've the the night you're mar the night You're gonna you're gonna be married, you can stay here. Because about going to that place wherever you've decided to have it.. If Richard's here he can go with you.
[Angela:] we're gonna be getting all his marbles getting ready for going to the church.
[Peggy:] .. Wherever he is wherever he is. Well who's gonna take it then Angela, your grandad can't take it. You've got to go.
[Richard:] There'll be plenty of people here who can get it..
[Peggy:] You can't you can't rely on anybody. There'd be a blooming puncture. We're gonna have a we're gonna have a a thing that takes us to wherever you're having
[Angela:] call a taxi.
[Peggy:] On our... we'll ring our own taxi up if there's a problem with the and we'll get that there. So that it's done. Cos grandad'll be all worked up and and
[Richard:] and he's gonna be the best man anyway.
[Peggy:] Well there you are, you can't go on like and have folk coming might not decide they're not coming. it doesn't matter who's there and who isn't there. As long as you and Angela's there and her dad's there and grandad's there. And it doesn't matter about anybody else, because the wedding'll take place and grandad has to sign the register, dad has to sign the register and the mother can sign and that's all that matters. you can't even re re rely on anybody. you'd have been relying on to come and and collect you Newcastle yesterday, and he ain't got a car. No you can't rely on anybody Well he hasn't got one then.
[June:] He's using it.
[Peggy:] Well he hasn't
[June:] No.
[Peggy:] And if the lad said he couldn't borrow it.
[Ernest:] I wouldn't want to
[Peggy:] No and I wouldn't wa I wouldn't depend on it. If you depend on erm people or taxis, if they had a breakdown, well they'd send another one.
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] Don't they.
[June:] I know.
[Richard:] the Metro's running. Well they was they were running this morning weren't they.
[Angela:] Aye they were.
[Peggy:] Yeah well they gave it out when we were passing bus when we went down to
[Angela:] You know when we went downtown
[Richard:] We were running late.
[Peggy:] There'll be a bus on though.
[Richard:] There's a replacement service on.
[Peggy:] the buses Newcastle in a bus.
[Arthur:] Well it'll take 'em to the station.
[Ernest:] replacement service.
[June:] Ere, which one goes to Newcastle?
[Arthur:] Erm.
[Peggy:] But you don't know what time the Metro replacement is?
[Ernest:] What time is the Metro.
[Arthur:] It'll run the same time as the Metro.
[Peggy:] You see that thing on business to
[Arthur:] Cos it goes direct from station
[Peggy:] Newcastle one time
[Arthur:] Ten past six.
[June:] Ten past six. ten past six
[Arthur:] cake
[June:] So if I was you Richard I wouldn't leave it till last minute, I a bit sooner in case the buses are not running.
[Arthur:] We're taking the cake. We'll ring our own taxi firm and we'll ask for a.
[Peggy:] she well then you'll have to carry the mattress downstairs. You've slept on a mattress before today, you've slept on a couch before today. So th I mean, I, when you were here, Street, there were David and Michael in the living room weren't there. David and Michael in the living room, we were in our
[June:] .
[Peggy:] in our living room. In the living room. And and Ike was in the our bedroom. We were in our bed-set our bed- settee in the sitting room. Eh?
[June:] .
[Peggy:] You were in that little bedroom, you went up them steps.
[Ernest:] Oh you were in that little office
[June:] Oh yeah.
[Peggy:] You were in there. You in there. Barbara, dad, me and Angela were in the sitting room. The children And that weren't for a day, for a night, it were for weeks and weeks on end. So we had our in the morning. Eh?
[June:] .
[Peggy:] Course you are. You were three.
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] .
[June:] Eighteen months Angela.
[Peggy:] . And she were in that bedroom with us,the there were t there were dad, me, Barbara and Angela. In in the sitting room. And there were you in the next bedroom, you and Arthur. And was Uncle Ike, in our bedroom. And then in the in the living room where we ate and everything
[June:] Oh on the camp-bed
[Peggy:] were er were er and and and there were three on. Well we got by you're not gonna tell me we can't get by w. Goodness me getting by if we want to. sleep and as I say, I Auntie Mary coming. that's up to her. And if she says no, well then there's there's two beds upstairs.
[June:] .
[Peggy:] you've got to know these things no good well they might. They've got to be asked. And as far as we're concerned the boy can come and stay.
[June:] Well I asked Richard about and he said, No problem.
[Peggy:] Well it is absolutely
[June:] ridiculous for her to come and bring all that on a train when.
[Peggy:] Yes it's absolutely ridiculous for you to bring, but you're not running the car. And they might not want to do it. They might not want to do it. You can't rely on people.
[Richard:] I can't see Auntie saying no, but I don't think. So....
[Peggy:] I mean it's alright
[June:] I mean she'd have to
[Peggy:] we've gone through it, we've had a car and we know. And if you take every chance of
[June:] Right.
[Peggy:] putting somebody else out, you don't like to. It'll take all the for them to come from where they're coming from.
[June:] Yeah but he'll have to bring somebody ov else over they're all coming to
[Peggy:] There you are. I know it's only a quarter of an hour away but if you have a breakdown, and Auntie Mary and she'll get all worked up. They'll get all worked up because they're supposed to be fetching her. There's all not somebody else.
[June:] .
[Peggy:] I mean I know we've had a car and we know. And we've been all over the place haven't we Arthur. And then when it's been our turn to come, we broke down. I I won't forget. I gave them the afternoon and she said, Oh that was lovely Mrs. And then she came to me and she said, take four of us away and I just said, No I'm sorry he won't. And she said, Oh. Well weeks went by and then a a a few weeks after she came to me and she said,.
[Richard:] He.
[Peggy:] spoke lovely and what we he said was true. And kind that she said, I was very disgusted, she said, with you, afterwards. And I said, Why what have I done. She said, well, she said, I asked you to take four people home and you said, No I'm sorry. She said, and I didn't expect you to say that. So I said, well did you stop to kn know we are fourteen miles. We've to go back fourteen miles, we've come fourteen and we've to go back fourteen miles. And it took all this time to get here. And we got here safe and we was thankful for that. And then we wer found out instead of sitting and listening we had to do the service. So I said, we done all that, and then we'd to go back fourteen miles. isn't always er moaning, doesn't mean to say there's nothing wrong with him. I said, I was thankful that he got here safe and I can't drive. And I was thankful that he was coming back alright. See. Wait a minute while I finish. And I said er but I'm not unkind at all. I said, it hurt the captain because we've been used to you know, ferrying everybody about, and I said, don't d say that people are unkind because they they're not taking you and carrying you about. Oh she says, well I'm sorry Mr, I never thought about it like that, you see. It's the easiest thing in the world you see as she says Well I just to well he'd done it before And I said to them, Oh captain'll take you. And then she said, when you said, well you wo they won't, I said, everyone knows because she said, by the time we has taken those people home, it would have been dark. I said and and captain can't drive in the dark. So what we would have been I mean it weren't just at the bottom of the street. And she said, oh well I am sorry Mrs, she said, I never thought about that. She said, it is the easiest thing in the world, she said, to just say, Oh well they'll take you. And when you think about it, it is. Because you're using Well your dad wouldn't mind. Bertie might, he might say, Well
[Richard:] Yeah I mean I I did say I'm not sure.
[Peggy:] No.
[Richard:] You know it's I I will ask.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] Well you know what they say, you don't get anywhere unless you ask.
[Peggy:] Well I know that but on the other hand, we've never been ones for relying on other people.
[Arthur:] Like what
[June:] Well they
[Arthur:] eh?
[June:] these the stuff not coming
[Arthur:] I know, it's a damn nuisance...
[June:] though, there's quite a low in't it?, I mean how long did it take that washer a week, if that...
[Arthur:] was under...
[June:] and that bit in there... from the album is exactly the same equipment
[Arthur:] yeah I know, actually if it'd been different equipment I would have cancelled it and said oh sod it, but it's not, it's same equipment, so you might as well wait for it
[June:] yeah, but if it hasn't come by next Tuesday Arthur you're not re-ordering, forget about it love
[Arthur:] well I'm not bothered love
[June:] because we'll have the cash, we'll go and buy... he said all you need is your amplifier and that didn't he?...
[Arthur:] [cough]...
[June:] I don't think your equipments gonna come anyway
[Arthur:] No, but she said like, she said it could come today... cos she says they deliver I says is there no way I said you can give me a number I said that I could get in contact, she said no, she said were're not allowed to do that
[June:] no I don't want one Arthur, you going down there aren't you, no harm in
[Arthur:] down where?
[June:] there weren't no more wrappers,
[Arthur:] oh aye, no she says I'm sorry she says we're not allowed to do that...
[June:] I need to pop that in
[Arthur:] she says er oh she says don't wait in, I says it's alright don't wait in, but I said if there's nobody in I said they don't get in
[June:] did you say we're in a commune door?
[Arthur:] mm... she said but isn't there a letter box outside
[June:] no
[Arthur:] just for somebody to drop a card
[June:] no
[Arthur:] you know, I said no, oh she said that's strange
[June:] you couldn't do that everybody else would be picking your mail, if there was a letter box there, mail box
[Arthur:] no each individual box
[June:] well there isn't
[Arthur:] each individual flat should have a box outside
[June:] I've I've said this before
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] but there isn't... and then again Arthur they get vandalized
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] you could have a filling that mail or, or, or something, and, and it, it'd just get vandalized around here won't it?
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] I wouldn't trust anybody... [sigh] I was talking to that lady, paper shop... you know where you used to wait for Les
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] you know when Les, oh she says there's been about half a dozen people at that paint shop, sends chops and changes she said... she said, she said I haven't lived there for three and a half years
[Arthur:] has she not?
[June:] no, she says er I'm in a bungalow now
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] she says you move from up here, didn't ya?, she says I see you up here, but, I said yeah at the time
[Arthur:] what she doing up there?
[June:] she's got a bungalow up there
[Arthur:] oh
[June:] she says, I'm on about the lady with the dark hair
[Arthur:] yeah, I know who you mean
[June:] little
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] and she do, she said she decided that, you know it was a bit, well I never change me post office, said I've had it for all these years... but she said it was a lovely bungalow... and she says er what
[Arthur:] did she not take you to have a look?
[June:] no
[Arthur:] fair enough
[June:] and er... I only have to mention the time though, oh dear
[Arthur:] oh all
[June:] should seen her face
[Arthur:] mm, I can imagine
[June:] mm
[Arthur:] oh faces do as soon as you mention this place
[June:] she says she's got a beautiful place I said yeah, but look how many stairs, I said I just couldn't climb the stairs, she said oh that's it, she says, but er, she says knowing you like I've always well she says and your husband, she even described you, she says I, I'd thought you'd move into a better area than that.
[Arthur:] Aye, well, there you are
[June:] Oh dear, I told them at one point why we did, and I've had it
[Arthur:] oh you've got
[June:] I have had it mentioned to me like, she says,, she said they're alright you know
[Arthur:] to what?
[June:] these bungalows, okay she said they're not massive
[Arthur:] did she have one of them
[June:] yeah
[Arthur:] oh
[June:] she said they're not massive
[Arthur:] well no not massive
[June:] she said but how many of you, she said you've a daughter ain't ya or summat, I said at the minute, she gets married next April, by heck she said doesn't time fly she says, I remember her coming and and from the paper shop
[Arthur:] aye, well she used to have a paper round
[June:] I says well yeah, I says well she's twenty now, she says oh she's that old now, I said yes, gets married next April, and you know what she said
[Arthur:] what?
[June:] she said you want to think about it... she says okay they're not massive she says, but they're cosy and comfortable....
[Arthur:] I suppose one of them on would be alright really
[June:] mm, you can't get on, in, a bungalow can ya?
[Arthur:] well you don't know it just depends what they offer ya
[June:] don't know whether they'd give you one, huh accordingly to that woman
[Arthur:] well you don't have to go where you give you one
[June:] if you're under sixty accordingly to that woman
[Arthur:] no
[June:] it's the
[Arthur:] oh no...
[June:] and your mother's
[Arthur:] I mean just cos I want I, just, just cos you want out of here, I'm not gonna accept any old place
[June:] why, didn't say you were bored, your mother told you to think again didn't she?
[Arthur:] what about a bungalow?
[June:] yeah
[Arthur:] yeah... [sniff]
[June:] can you have a satellite dish on a bungalow, are you allowed by Council?
[Arthur:] yeah, of course you can, can have satellite dishes with bungalows on, or bungalows with satellite dishes on
[June:] oh I wished I
[Arthur:] which ever way round you want it
[June:] I'm fed up with waiting... but out of town, it's doing me no good all the way round there... right round here some, there's a home, she'd have to take it
[Arthur:] would she?...
[June:] the poll tax one
[Arthur:] no it's not
[June:] yes it is
[Arthur:] that's the menu for the
[June:] I mean
[Arthur:] orderly
[June:] yes, but the old tax ones underneath
[Arthur:] oh well it's underneath your book, that's why she forgot to take it, she wouldn't see it...
[June:] so that's on Saturday at three?
[Arthur:] yeah...
[June:] it's gorgeous out there, do you know it's Easter weekend, next weekend, the first, the papers up, cos I didn't really know when it was, it's Easter Sunday, a week this Sunday
[Arthur:] yeah I know Bank Holiday Monday on Monday
[June:] yeah so if your
[Arthur:] [belch]
[June:] stuff doesn't come next week
[Arthur:] [sniff]
[June:] you certainly won't be getting it on the following Monday
[Arthur:] no, but I could get it on the Tuesday, she said if you hadn't got it by the Tuesday, to let us know on the Wednesday
[June:] aye, next week
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] but I'm on about the Tuesday after, the Monday after is Easter Monday
[Arthur:] no, this coming Monday is Easter Monday
[June:] it's not
[Arthur:] yes it is
[June:] it's not, it's the o
[Arthur:] seventeenth
[June:] no, and er, it's not the seventeenth this Monday coming
[Arthur:] well what is it this Monday coming?
[June:] thirteenth
[Arthur:] well then it's Easter Monday
[June:] it's not Easter Monday until the twentieth, it's on the windows
[Arthur:] I dunno
[June:] Easter Sunday's on the nineteenth
[Arthur:] oh well they'll know then...
[June:] Easter Sunday's on the nineteenth I'm quite sure
[Arthur:] so if it didn't come on the Monday it could come on the Tuesday, by next week...
[June:] have you rang the bank?
[Arthur:] no... no I'm not bothering
[June:] well if you can just put me mind at rest now and if they'd say no I wouldn't worry so much then
[Arthur:] you don't need to worry... well she ain't bothered you bothering you
[June:] well you ain't gotta go out your way
[Arthur:] I don't need to go out me way
[June:] he says if you just say has the money gone in, he'll tell you, yeah, and she gives you your bank account number
[Arthur:] I'm not really bothered
[June:] it's Wednesday now, when, when did we go up Monday?
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] well it's Wednesday now look, just even to know if I've got something there...
[Arthur:] That's what I want
[June:] So you can't go to your mum's then till they've rang
[Arthur:] no, not really...
[June:] Hello, should you have finish at two o'clock?
[Karen:] Yes, weren't suppose to, suppose to finish till three
[Arthur:] hello there, where you been?
[Karen:] work
[Arthur:] been to work looking like that
[June:] stop winding her up, ooh
[Karen:] [cough]
[Arthur:] have you been working hard?
[Karen:] no
[Arthur:] no
[June:] are the residents in yet?
[Karen:] no, tomorrow
[Arthur:] why not?
[June:] ah...
[Karen:] cos basically they've nothing to do
[Arthur:] oh...
[Karen:] and you say
[June:] oh why grumble when you get paid for it
[Karen:] and you say take that tape recorder to work, huh, I wouldn't dare
[June:] you've er
[Arthur:] why is the language being blue
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Karen:] it's not much the language it's the conversations
[Arthur:] oh
[June:] you forgot to take that poll tax form to your boss
[Karen:] I know
[June:] you'll have to take it tomorrow
[Karen:] he's not there
[David:] It's a right nice sunny day and now you say have your cocoa
[June:] well I've had mine now
[David:] it's as warm as house out there
[Arthur:] you wanna see this one with location ski jacket on, I'm expecting snow any minute
[June:] I don't care, your the only with an inside pocket is that yeah I put them out I dunno where I put me cigarettes and that, some of me shell suits have got new zips on
[Arthur:] have you had your dinner?
[June:] oh out me padded jacket
[Karen:] yeah
[Arthur:] oh
[Karen:] looks...
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[June:] don't you feed yourself in your flat?
[Karen:] no
[Arthur:] put yourself pan of stew on, then you can dip in it now and then
[June:] and don't take all that loaf cos that's all that
[Arthur:] ooh, my stomachs speaking
[June:] I told you before to get some mince and put potatoes in and that, see
[David:] afford, can't afford at the minute, I was just saying to dad... Bri's gonna get us some shopping on his cheque book, I tell you, did I tell you about his embarrassing moment?
[Arthur:] no, what were that?
[June:] yeah yeah he did at the Co-Op
[David:] at the Co-Op
[Arthur:] oh yeah, aye
[David:] tell you did I?, oh, he went round the Co-Op right
[Arthur:] yeah
[David:] did all his shopping, bags and bags of shopping
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[David:] only had sixty odd quid, used his credit card to put it through, well now it all comes up, all the stuff comes up onto on display now about the credit, it goes straight through to their account see if there's money there
[Arthur:] yeah
[David:] and it refused it, and it should, the woman didn't obviously didn't know what to do, she was as embarrassed as had to get the manager so by this time Brian has packed all his bags up
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[David:] the manager came along and says oh I don't know about it, it seems er some reason
[June:] I'm glad I weren't there
[David:] some reason it hasn't accepted it and Brian says it's probably cos me wages haven't gone in yet, the bank they can't be empty, so he's hoping to get that by the time they took it out he's money at the end, it's embarrassing enough, so, he's telling me, so they had to take the stuff off him
[June:] ee, I would of died me
[David:] cos it was all fresh cos he was gonna get meat tomorrow and the following day, so I says to him I says well why didn't you use your cheque book?, he says oh I never thought of that he says, cos it takes a few days to get it, he don't know with a cheque book
[Arthur:] yeah
[David:] so he went back on the night time, got the bags how embarrassing, he did it
[June:] you went in
[David:] no
[June:] oh I'd of died if I was in there
[David:] so he was gonna do the same for me, do a bit of shopping well I said you'll get it like... give you the money, so he says well I was gonna do the same but I said the only thing is when we go to the cash desk er, I said I'm gonna leave you, I said I'm not standing there [clears throat]...
[June:] don't you get paid this week?
[David:] erm, I wished I did mum I tell ya, get paid next week and it's Easter
[Karen:] I thought you were going up nan
[June:] I can't can I, I'm waiting for a phone
[Arthur:] can't
[June:] call
[Arthur:] waiting for a phone call
[June:] cos me money hasn't gone in the bank
[Arthur:] chasing money around
[June:] that's more important [LAUGHTER] we're not getting it till end of month
[David:] I never paid my bills for the last month
[Arthur:] not paying it till black one comes...
[June:] it depends, just paid electric and gas
[David:] had got a deal
[Arthur:] oh aye
[June:] I'm telling you and I'm telling you, not him, he's having now't say or so be tea on him, you want to stand up for yourself you, it's time you opened your mouth to our Michael, don't be afraid of him
[David:] what, I never see him
[June:] when he, if he does come
[Arthur:] see, he don't see him
[June:] it's about time you opened your mouth
[David:] it's better be calm I don't care
[June:] all this I mean he's, he's got nothing now, he's right down to nothing...
[David:] oh
[June:] I mean all the time he's been back down there and not telling me he hasn't had any cars
[Arthur:] aye of course he would of had cars
[David:] why has got money
[Karen:] huh
[June:] , I've had enough with
[David:] would of mind if he'd left that mini could of drove round in the mini
[Arthur:] mm
[David:] rather than I tell ya cos this thing, this thing we're in now what's it like?
[June:] I mean really
[David:] honestly it jerks er that's all it does
[Arthur:] I noticed it the other day when you were round then
[June:] I mean he came for a flying visit and he went back didn't he? he came for a flying visit and went back
[David:] when I visit him a second time he didn't turn up at all
[Arthur:] send one of his lackeys
[June:] popped up in the week
[David:] he says, look er, he says, cos I for somebody he said if I could, if he knew somebody that could take me down he says I would leave the mini for ya
[Arthur:] mm, mm
[David:] I, I said I know I would of had the mini for nothing
[June:] well that was an old banger weren't it?, she always, she always gives me the little bags on the carpet, aye bags
[Arthur:] what'd ya mean there's no money she's got money
[June:] all them bills we've just paid God television license is due end of month
[Arthur:] oh well
[June:] you Karen?
[Arthur:] television eighty pounds, it's gone up as well
[Karen:] what's all your rings on the table for mum?
[June:] cos I took them off to peel some potatoes... one of them is what you and Karen bought
[David:] oh it's me
[Arthur:] shh
[June:] you're the one I bought off, that other ones the one I bought off Michael that says, she say you told him what
[Karen:] buying the ring
[David:] ring, oh yeah I know
[June:] yeah he took it off her finger...
[David:] yeah Karen I need some money
[Karen:] [LAUGHTER]
[David:] she got loads, here mother [LAUGHTER] they wouldn't would they?, they'd have to have gold to yours [LAUGHTER] aye
[Karen:] I know twenty seven and grey hairs
[Arthur:] I'm not surprised
[David:] ma
[June:] told ya years ago to get something in the bank, years ago, have to listen to me when you get on your feet... you can't beat having a bob or two in the bank can ya?
[Arthur:] if, is the word you're looking for, not when...
[June:] I mean you, you even get interest just, if you've only a bit in at least ten haven't ya?
[David:] well er I've got a tenner in the bank that counts
[June:] you'll get interest on that, if it stay there, stay there, no
[David:] I'll have about ten pound, one pence now
[Karen:] [LAUGHTER]
[June:] two years ago we, we were gonna put more in weren't we?, nearly two years ago
[Arthur:] mm it will be
[David:] I refuse to take it out because it just closes it down again and I thought I'm not touching it
[June:] when did we put it in eighty nine?
[Arthur:] mm, something like that
[Karen:] that's three years this year for a start
[June:] we put fifteen pound in our post office in an investment account and forgot all about it
[Arthur:] it's still there
[June:] and it's still there, that were three years ago, should be a little bit of interest on that
[Karen:] must be... I put fiver in, that must be four year ago
[David:] oh yeah, I put seven quid in
[June:] do you not save any money?
[Karen:] no, I
[David:] she keeps it er, she stashes it in a hiding place in our room
[Arthur:] under the mattress [LAUGHTER]
[June:] yeah, but what if it's in the bank you see you get interest
[David:] she's daft well be honest she's always into it, either somebody wants to borrow it, her mam will borrow some
[Karen:] to you [LAUGHTER]
[David:] no, er, er, it hasn't actually
[June:] he's borrowed off Karen [LAUGHTER]
[David:] I owe her now't, well
[Karen:] well you owe me twenty five quid
[David:] alright, alright
[Karen:] no, sorry, thirty five quid
[David:] you keep adding it up
[Karen:] no I don't
[David:] I tell you
[Karen:] it's interest
[David:] it keeps going up
[Karen:] charging interest for you, for you...
[Arthur:] I've been round to bin place and back
[David:] well who took the
[June:] me
[David:] oh
[Arthur:] oh aye
[Karen:] it's summer out there, it's nice and warm
[June:] go and get me money, go and pay me bills, got now't left, eighty quid for just gas and electric
[Karen:] this morning
[David:] cold
[June:] oh aye I wear my padded jacket to me I don't care
[David:] red hot out there, it was
[June:] this is the only one for
[Arthur:] [cough] just fancy taking Penny in the west park for a while, I don't
[Karen:] [LAUGHTER]
[June:] did you take them types back?
[Arthur:] no not yet... not that good
[June:] it's in thingy, I didn't want I was just checking and the
[Karen:] I thought it was good
[June:] yeah
[David:] Oscar, oh it's a comedy you know
[Arthur:] yeah
[June:] I know
[David:] aye that's exactly what he was on about, getting interviewed on that, I mean I've see the trailer on it, they were showing them scenes, he's sick of being typecasted as a hard macho man in films, he wants to do something different family films
[June:] not but to me it was, it was boring
[Karen:] aye
[David:] that was cos you're used to seeing
[June:] no, I mean I like a man
[David:] yeah cos he's a hard guy, he's a hard guy
[Arthur:] he still a hard man in
[David:] he's still, I said it's a serious
[June:] you didn't watch it
[Arthur:] I didn't watch it
[Karen:] I thought it was good me, I enjoyed it, I thought it was funny
[David:] you've gotta, you know what I mean?
[June:] have you watched it?
[David:] no, not yet, I've seen the beginning where he set up the and that
[Karen:] oh
[David:] did you watch all the?
[June:] no I haven't watched I've just eh?
[David:] what made you watch Oscar?
[June:] cos time was going on and I thought well just watch that, I knew you wanted it taped and I thought time were going on
[David:] Maria and
[June:] we never finished watching that did we? that was a good film that
[Karen:] I mean I can't stand Rik... what's his surname Maio?
[David:] Rik Maio
[Karen:] Rik Maio, I can't stand him like, I enjoyed it, I thought it was a good film
[June:] I haven't watched it yet still on the
[David:] probably not your cup of tea mum, it's daft humour, he's funny He's smashing the fridge ah! the fridge! the dragon lady! the three headed dragon
[June:] he's waiting for that
[David:] he's got twenty four he has
[June:] I thought he was in fifties I did
[David:] twenty four
[June:] when I first saw him I thought he was in his fifties
[David:] thirty eight in the paper
[June:] thirty eight
[David:] I know it was in the paper twenty four and a half inch, has it, have you got a tape measure?
[June:] no well that's two foot in it?...
[David:] that's on the slack out, I mean when he's got it all pumped up you know it must be just standing there and his arms out here
[June:] suburban commander and he's supposed to be from another planet or something or other
[David:] yeah, summat like that
[June:] I saw a trailer of it when I came, I thought he must of come your dad likes it cos he likes him he watched that
[David:] a few good films advertised on one of those tapes, can't remember what tape it was, I'm not sure if it was
[June:] time scape or something or other
[David:] no it wasn't that one, there was a few
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[Karen:] I can stomach anything except that
[June:] oh, er, Lost In Time
[David:] that's it
[June:] Rhinestone
[David:] aye, that looks good now I must say
[June:] sometimes they come back [LAUGHTER] yeah some are timid, some are frightening eh?
[Arthur:] I'll have to
[June:] seen that
[Arthur:] Lost In, Lost In Time...
[David:] [humming]
[Karen:] and then after last night I completely forgot
[David:] last night?
[Karen:] yeah [LAUGHTER]
[David:] been drinking on Tuesday
[Karen:] drunk
[David:] humming
[June:] waste of money
[Karen:] drunk
[David:] oh I tell ya, I got there, I buy a couple, Sally buys 'em because I, I give 'em tapes, I don't ask him, but he's one of these blokes unless he buys you one he'll take a funny
[Karen:] oh get offended
[David:] yes, gets dead offended, dead funny, dead nice bloke and he will buy you one whether you like it or not
[June:] He wanted me to spell your name
[David:] oh I know love it
[Karen:] what?
[David:] on a
[Karen:] [LAUGHTER]
[David:] wrote down on his book it wasn't him
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[Angela:] get off
[David:] I've got a confession mother
[Angela:] do you have
[David:] we're having a double wedding
[Angela:] oh God
[David:] Aren't we spotty?
[June:] are you, are you twenty three this year?
[David:] no I wish, twenty four
[June:] ee, I make you a year younger I was saying to dad in bed last night Karen's twenty three this year
[David:] no twenty four
[June:] making her a year younger
[David:] oh do you know what it is?, I always take our numbers, do the number on my age on the it never wins, so I've started taking another one...
[June:] twenty four and, and your dads, and your dads birthday twenty four, no twenty four
[Arthur:] well my birthdays on the twenty sixth twenty seven, last year I was on the twenty six, I was twenty six
[Karen:] [LAUGHTER]
[June:] do you know about that Karen, do you know about that?
[Karen:] what?
[June:] not turning up... not turning up
[David:] er, did I not tell ya?, I forgot oh God
[Karen:] no
[June:] and you you keep saying she was seventeen, she was sixteen wasn't she Angela?
[Angela:] yes
[David:] I don't know
[June:] you didn't believe me same age as Mike
[Angela:] she's sixteen
[June:] so she was fifteen
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[David:] ah I'm being recorded, ah I'm being recorded, testing one, two, three, testing
[June:] it's like the, the language, like the English language of nineteen ninety up to date, you know the er tape the weirds and everything
[Karen:] [LAUGHTER]
[June:] and it takes these batteries and everything and she says I'll pick them up eleven cock, o'clock on Friday
[Karen:] eleven o'clock
[June:] and you'll get twenty five pound voucher twenty five pound voucher for Marks and Spencers
[Karen:] oh
[June:] I mean you'd have all the conversation anyway in there, so oh it's eight now aren't we?
[Karen:] oh dear me
[June:] April the tenth
[Angela:] aye, tenth of April...
[David:] [humming] more like, more like it'll be [humming]
[June:] it's the same everywhere you go in't it?, yeah it is, it's the same everywhere you go it's erm
[David:] testing, testing, one, two, three...
[June:] what you doing love? eh?... mm she's been on the phone, they've rang Blackpool now, gonna get back to
[David:] tell Brian last night
[June:] what a carry on
[David:] I says probably Monday so I thought well I give it time any way in case you get in to
[June:] he's not in
[David:] no I not he's not
[June:] end of month, there's now't you can do about it... insurance thing
[David:] what's that?
[June:] eh?
[David:] insurance payment
[June:] yeah, those insurance we take it out
[David:] oh
[June:] I haven't a thing in till her money goes in end of month... she only gets paid end of month
[David:] so how much are you expecting anyway?
[June:] eh?
[David:] how much you expecting to get?
[June:] four hundred, you see I'll have to take some of that
[David:] oh
[June:] the licensing they sent a reminder this morning, I said they didn't need do that, I know it's last day of April, it's gone up
[Arthur:] aye, I know
[June:] eighty pound... if it's not one thing you know it's fortnight ago from Co-Op it's forty one P a packet, went last week it was forty six P a packet, so Richard and Angela went the other day for nan and they got me some at same time, she leant me the money, yeah, cos I was absolutely broke, gone back down again to forty one...
[David:] oh, I don't know what they do though like...
[June:] can't do anything about it David we're getting in touch with Blackpool, summat's gone wrong somewhere along the line, that's what he's waiting for a call
[David:] oh
[June:] ain't it
[David:] [sigh]
[June:] the call
[Arthur:] what?...
[June:] I said this
[Arthur:] what?
[June:] you're waiting for a call
[Arthur:] yeah, that's what I said
[June:] that's why he's had the paper out, must of cost us a fortune in phone calls
[David:] make you sick, first they tell you you've got money and then you found out you haven't, it's still in transit somewhere
[June:] yeah he said we should of got it, it should of gone in the bank the day we got that letter
[Arthur:] should of gone in the bank the same day as that the date of that letter
[June:] there at the bank as you know one minute nothing
[Arthur:] rung up this morning still not there
[June:] rang bank up this morning, summat wrong somewhere and it's supposed to be done by a computer, I don't trust computers I don't, I says the first I don't know about having it back I should of said send it home... send it to me [LAUGHTER] address []
[David:] mm
[June:] that way you're sure and then you put your own in bank, you know it's there...
[David:] you have to wait a few days for it to clear don't ya?
[June:] what?
[David:] the cheque
[June:] I don't know David
[David:] cos er, you have to wait three days for it, and then cheque's gotta clear in the bank, it's like our Mark he had a cheque put in his, he had to wait three days before it cleared... went in on the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, don't count Saturday, Sunday, Monday, cleared by Tuesday dinner time
[June:] yeah, I wouldn't of touched it straight away anyway
[David:] aye
[June:] ready on by a computer, do you have to wait three days?
[Arthur:] what
[David:] for the cheque you're gonna have to wait three days to clear in it? in your bank
[Arthur:] what?, what?
[June:] this money is it a cheque or
[Arthur:] it's computer, computer transaction
[June:] computer
[David:] oh
[June:] computer transaction
[David:] oh they just type it though it's in your account already
[June:] yeah, but it goes from computer to computer, but summat's gone wrong ain't it?, somewhere along the line, they've rang the bank themselves... maybe he didn't believe your dad or not I don't know, she got back to him, she says, we've rang your bank and they were very helpful, they saw it so what you have to do is ring Blackpool, she says as so as soon as Blackpool ring back, she'll ring
[David:] yeah it's not an actual cash transaction
[June:] oh
[David:] all they do is diddle some keys and it goes off to T S B and then it goes into your account, that's the way it's supposed to work
[June:] they have been excited for a bit of money and end up with nowt, sending you letters
[David:] that's it [humming]
[June:] look's like that an all, I want to know if it's going in weekly or monthly
[David:] [yawning] oh God []
[June:] because that's only supposed to be up to this week... three more weeks in April... what she doing? she'll have to push that back right now
[David:] hello puddy cat, hello
[Arthur:] oh you've just had something to eat ain't ya?, without throw you about
[June:] oh aye I'll be sick
[Arthur:] puking it up all over carpet...
[June:] be still, that's a good boy, let your food go down
[Arthur:] he's a bugger, he gollops all his food and then he throws it back
[David:] really
[June:] that's good Monty
[Arthur:] was Timmy always sick?
[David:] er [cough] full of fluff balls
[Arthur:] yeah
[June:] why he's had his, his
[Arthur:] oh, that stuff went in that stuff
[June:] I dunno, he's alright, happy now
[Arthur:] turning over, I can't be bothered why don't we just carry on
[David:] [sigh]
[Arthur:] just as fast to eat some of his tea...
[David:] I had to do some custard in the microwave last night, cos it might of, came out like slut
[Arthur:] ee [LAUGHTER]
[David:] water, blinking shambles, I ended up chucking it away...
[June:] I don't do mine in microwave I do it in a saucepan what, put my
[David:] I just fancied I know, but I just fancied some custard
[June:] you're suppose to be going up your mothers, what you doing mince for tea for?
[David:] [humming]
[June:] be on at Kays an all haven't ya?
[Arthur:] in case me number one son comes round starving again, I'll have a pan of stew for him to dip into, plus he left half inch in bottom so he wouldn't have to wash pan
[David:] I didn't have much of that, I didn't like the look of it
[June:] it wants washing that pan anyway
[Arthur:] it doesn't... it's washed...
[June:] I tell you what you'll give 'em till next Tuesday and if it don't come by then you still, you can just cancel it save up
[David:] is that all the is that all they do?
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] save up and buy it, it won't cost
[David:] I know, I mean when you think about it, what is it you'll have, a tape deck, amplifier, oh you have to
[Arthur:] mm
[David:] tape deck, amplifier and your you're not bothered about the tuner
[Arthur:] no
[June:] no
[Arthur:] I never use that one, so
[David:] so three amp, amplifier I can get for about
[Arthur:] there it is
[David:] a hundred and fifty
[Arthur:] how much?
[Angela:] what
[David:] amplifier, Pioneer yeah a hundred and fifty
[Arthur:] this is a hundred and fifty pounds
[David:] equalizer you can get one for a hundred and thirty, that's two seventy
[Arthur:] eighty nine was the equalizer
[David:] yeah, but you're talking Pioneer here
[Arthur:] yeah
[David:] tape deck, well it varies, you can get one, a double one for a hundred and fifty
[Arthur:] more, or a hundred and twenty nine
[David:] so your total was... about four thir about four fifty roughly [cough]
[Arthur:] what we've got in here is Goodmans, Crown, Akai and Sharp
[David:] but only one Sharp
[Arthur:] Sharp is a midi compact disc player... them's are
[David:] aye...
[June:] said they'll call me
[Karen:] mm
[June:] granddad's doing it... Angela said you're using your mum and dads address so we can put the banns in here with it
[David:] yeah I know
[June:] only your mother wasn't sure... she asked me on the phone
[David:] oh
[June:] said yeah, Richard is using your address to put the banns in here with Angela a month now, used
[Arthur:] aye
[June:] to be three weeks, gotta putta your banns in for a month...
[Arthur:] you can put them in two days before but you need a special licence, which is seventy eight pounds, it's a bit of useless information really...
[David:] what are them like? banns banns
[Arthur:] multiplication
[David:] who to?
[June:] the registrar office
[Arthur:] they go in a glass case at the registrar office in a you know a display, a notice board
[June:] fella, fella's don't have to do it
[David:] aye
[Arthur:] and that's put on and if, we say for argument sake that er she was married, we know she's not, but she could be and her banns are in and her husband gets wind that she's getting married again, you know, so he goes into the registrar office has a look, and she's already married to me and this is what it's for
[June:] this is what it's
[David:] oh I didn't know about that.... I'm surprised dad you hadn't bought the pioneer system
[Arthur:] It's too expensive
[David:] I dunno you're paying that much out, four hundred quid near or something aren't ya?
[Arthur:] three hundred and summat
[June:] three hundred and seventy
[Arthur:] three hundred and seventy two I think it is
[June:] three hundred and seventy nine
[Arthur:] it's that, I don't want the full system anyway, I only want
[June:] are them separate?
[David:] er mini hifi's
[Arthur:] I don't know whether they're separate or er
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[June:] you like your separates don't ya?
[Arthur:] your talking seven hundred and odd quid
[David:] four, nine, nine
[Arthur:] no, with a C D I think it's seven hundred and odd quid in it?
[David:] dunno, I'm just trying to find out what you want here...
[June:] was it the you rang up?
[David:] yeah
[June:] God it's ridiculous in it?
[David:] nine fifty a head
[Arthur:] four, nine, nine, nine, nine
[June:] nine pound fifty a head
[Arthur:] I mean you can get a dearer one a multiple
[David:] yeah
[Arthur:] compact seven, seven or
[June:] nine pound fifty a head
[Arthur:] twin compact disc seven, two, eight and there's a twin compact disc as well
[David:] that's all inclusive
[Arthur:] that's everything
[David:] that is your, play semi automatic record deck
[Arthur:] which I don't want
[David:] well it's part of it really
[Arthur:] yeah
[David:] I mean that comes off it, I can see that much, I just thought it was good anyway
[Arthur:] yeah...
[David:] sell it to Richard couldn't you?
[Arthur:] huh
[David:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] twins er set decks, tape to tape record, high speed dubbing and up two hours continuous playing
[David:] that's high speed dubbing, twin auto tape cassette decks, got one and to play back
[Arthur:] she says
[David:] long medium, F M stereo waveband, digital tuner,thi, thirty six pre stations
[Arthur:] yeah, which I don't want anyway
[David:] five band stereo graphic deviser with spectrum analyzer
[June:] it's a lovely little lady
[David:] also a multi synchrony editing system from recording from compact disc, twin compact disc player with twenty four tracks from random memory, three way speaker system, headphones and auxil, auxiliary full functional remote control
[Arthur:] mm
[David:] except turn table
[Arthur:] he said oh don't want speakers cos I've got them there
[David:] no I know, but I mean
[Arthur:] I don't want a turntable, I'm not bothered about it
[David:] yeah, but five hundred quid, a couple of hundred more
[Arthur:] yeah I know
[David:] one seventy more and you get a twin play compact disc player from it
[Arthur:] oh aye I know what you're saying
[David:] you get the tuner, you get the equaliser and you get the, okay you don't want the record deck, but you could always sell the record deck to buy new speakers
[Arthur:] oh yeah, I suppose, I suppose
[David:] so Richard he couldn't, he'll probably buy the Pioneer speakers
[Arthur:] mm
[David:] and the deck, so you make what say, a hundred quid there, cos brand new speakers and a brand new record deck... so you'd only be paying four hundred quid for it
[Arthur:] mm
[David:] which is only about, how much?
[Angela:] dad Karen say, she's still got her
[June:] she's asked Karen to be a bridesmaid
[Angela:] a bridesmaid she said she's still got her bridesmaid, bridesmaid dress
[June:] at least she'll come smart
[Arthur:] has she?, oh well, there you are then
[Angela:] that she wore for her mum's, it's peach
[Arthur:] you don't want it peach anyway
[June:] it doesn't matter you can have peach can't she?
[Angela:] everyone has peach
[Arthur:] so
[David:] one sixty, one sixty... two fifty say
[June:] she's only a little doll
[Angela:] aye
[David:] three eighty possibly for them
[Arthur:] mm
[David:] you might as well say three eighty, it's a hundred and twenty quid more and you could sell the speakers and the deck
[Arthur:] mm
[David:] I'd rather have that then I tell you
[June:] is Richard's sister wearing a bridesmaid dress?
[Angela:] yeah, of course she
[June:] I thought you said they can't
[Arthur:] Yeah, travel line, and I says to her I said I'm looking at this V F M bus timetable I says the five two, one I said it goes down? Street, I said is that, is that alright, you know sort of thing I said would I, she said yes she said it does, she said it, it runs the same route as the five, two, seven, but it runs early then it becomes five, two, seven, the five, two, ones still on, like a two seven and a two one, two seven, two one and there were yeah
[June:] That's side B now and then it'll be full...
[Arthur:] yes that's side B, it's not going any where
[June:] on three I pressed it in
[Arthur:] aye it is, yes...
[June:] oh dear... I suppose really if you want to eat something I'll get it in
[Ernest:] Oh yeah don't have any question about that
[June:] yeah
[Ernest:] but erm
[June:] I'm the same with Arthur
[Ernest:] Sunday night we listen to the er Messiah, I was going to tape it and I thought no I don't, I doubt if this tape would this machine
[Arthur:] what on this?
[Ernest:] on this
[Arthur:] aye
[Ernest:] so I erm, we watched it, anyhow Monday I went into er Smiths and asked them if it was on tape
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] she said no it's not, not, I doubt it, by now she said I don't know whether it will take it, whether the, the, you know the or not
[June:] what's that?
[Arthur:] Messiah
[June:] Handels Messiah?
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] it's on record in't it?
[Arthur:] oh aye
[Ernest:] oh it's on ta it's on video, yeah it's on video
[June:] is he?
[Ernest:] but not that, because that's
[Arthur:] no
[Ernest:] it's on the
[Arthur:] oh
[Ernest:] er, now she said the only one we had, in fact she said the only one that's listing is the one that was done in the Abbey, Westminster Abbey, with the Westminster choir and the London Philharmonic in nineteen eighty two
[Arthur:] oh
[Ernest:] she said and that's the only one that listed
[June:] our Angela's after that song in the South in't she?
[Arthur:] aye
[June:] is that on video?
[Arthur:] yeah
[Ernest:] it was good,
[Arthur:] when were that?
[Ernest:] er... two
[Arthur:] B B C two
[Ernest:] B B C two
[Arthur:] aye... I thought we watched on Sunday, what did we watch on Sunday?
[June:] dunno
[Arthur:] oh me wrestle mania was on
[June:] me and Angela watched films
[Arthur:] I watch me wrestler mania from ten o'clock till one...
[June:] how many more different strokes have you to do for your map?
[Arthur:] oh there's only two on there
[June:] no, but where's the other one?, I thought there was one on last night
[Arthur:] they're on every night Friday, er, erm, er Monday to Friday five o'clock
[June:] how come you forgot?
[Arthur:] I forgot to set it, I forget, did forget about 'em
[Ernest:] you see sometimes before that, a today and they were perfect
[Arthur:] oh aye
[Ernest:] not a flaw on them
[Arthur:] lend you the tapes
[Ernest:] well I'm wondering whether it's one or two of the tapes, I just can't sort out which they are somehow
[June:] what tapes are they?, what's that one?... what make?, it's gotta name on it
[Ernest:] what the machine?
[June:] no the tape
[Arthur:] no the tape
[Ernest:] er, I tell you what we seem to be having difficulties with yes, those are the ones that seems to be the
[June:] I bought some new tapes four hours off the market, two fifty each, and one of them's dead faulty in't it?
[Arthur:] oh aye yeah
[June:] well I says I'm not getting no more
[Ernest:] well that's true
[Arthur:] it'll go so far and then it just switches off
[Ernest:] mm
[Arthur:] I can't really see that being the tape itself
[June:] mm, makes you wonder that if you shouldn't pay the dearer price and get the proper decent tapes
[Ernest:] get decent tapes, yeah
[June:] don't even, get the cheaper ones, like we had no trouble with the Memorex did we?
[Arthur:] no
[June:] they were dearer, but we had no trouble with them
[Arthur:] but then again we've not
[June:] with that them four with have with them four hour
[Arthur:] oh them four hour yeah, well they're lousy quality with them
[June:] well they were two fifty each
[Ernest:] two fifty each
[June:] yeah, I wouldn't call that cheap... oh there was summat on t'other day, Sunday, and I told him and he forgot about it didn't he?, The Bluebird
[Ernest:] oh yes
[June:] forget didn't he?
[Ernest:] got satellite haven't ya?
[June:] yeah, anyway I think it's on again on the fifteenth, so I've written it down so I don't forget because he'll forget
[Ernest:] oh
[June:] I says to him you could of taped that for your mum, I says she'll like that, he says I forgot, ee I says you tell me I'm going senile...
[Ernest:] but it always seems to be something we want special, either a silly little comedy and things like that they were perfect, but anything we really want, it always seems to stop
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[June:] as I've taped something
[Ernest:] mm
[June:] as I've taped something, cos it's spat out ain't it?
[Ernest:] yes I well er
[June:] I tell you what it was, it was Samsung, if you've a little bit of tape and you end at beginning and you want it, well say you wanted to tape to test a little bit say off telly or
[Arthur:] [cough]
[June:] right, you did that much and then you re-wound it back to the beginning then, it's stubborn that it won't do it, it will not re-wind yeah
[Ernest:] at what?
[June:] at the beginning I mean
[Ernest:] at the beginning?
[June:] yeah
[Ernest:] well that's the same
[June:] now if I tape for about an hour and a half or an hour and then rewind it, it'll go
[Ernest:] mm
[June:] but it will not do a little bit
[Ernest:] no, er
[June:] ooh it's annoying
[Ernest:] now that tape that's in now, tt, there's a little bit at the front of that and it's been on, oh it must of been on a fortnight and it doesn't matter what you record
[June:] it's still there
[Ernest:] it's still there...
[June:] it's same with a Samsung, I end up sometimes putting it in the Toshiba one, to re-wind it back, but I've had some funny tapes I have just lately, it's the tape that won't re-wind, because how I've noticed been the tape like, cos I've put it in the Toshiba and re-wound, but it wouldn't even re-wind in the Toshiba, so Arthur says well he says that's the tapes
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] I think I'm gonna go back to Memorex tapes again that I had, had er, never
[Peggy:] oh, we've had no trouble with the Hitachi
[Ernest:] no, no we haven't had much, no, no we haven't had trouble with the Hitachi, just the machine itself actually
[Peggy:] yeah
[Ernest:] and er, then we had a bit, but er everything in the bottom drawer there, those are all playing alright
[Peggy:] yes
[Ernest:] we're just, we're just running on five tapes I think, well only four because one of them are... oh well, let's go upstairs again
[Peggy:] oh that's where I'm going shall I nip up before you?
[Ernest:] er be quick
[Peggy:] can you manage to get up?
[Ernest:] oh yes I think I can pull myself up...
[June:] Well fetch it in here, that's it
[Arthur:] What, just there?
[June:] pardon?
[Peggy:] your man said
[Arthur:] aye
[June:] we've got nothing to hide have we mum?
[Peggy:] what
[June:] about that other business
[Arthur:] put it down there
[June:] and it, and it doesn't go anywhere anyway cos they'd of
[Peggy:] no, but that stops anybody else
[Arthur:] it's alright there
[Peggy:] who won't be getting
[June:] it's sliding
[Peggy:] what they're getting
[Arthur:] no, no
[Peggy:] they don't tell you what they're getting do they?
[Arthur:] oh no
[Peggy:] what I'm saying to you now is, I was saying to Arthur, the, the petrol money that we used to put in for petrol, it cost us five pound a week in the winter, but in the summer it cost us eight pound a week sometimes ten
[June:] yeah
[Peggy:] but five pound on putting that away definitely, every week, as it's all paid petrol money, so now I've got eighty pound, eighty pound is in me, me, one of me purses and that is, it has on, there again, I mean everything, not a lot, if you'd to go in you'd see, it'd have a, it'd have erm petrol money, it's eighty pound, now I'm saving that so by the time aunty Mary comes I shall have probably a hundred pounds in that
[June:] so she is coming
[Peggy:] well she said she, she wants to come and she'd like to come, but it'll be end of June, because she's going to some er Methodist day out somewhere, I don't
[June:] mm, mm
[Peggy:] know where they've planned owt to go, and er, so she said it'll get end of June or even July
[June:] is she, is she coming by train?, cos she told us it was better by train
[Peggy:] well I suppose she will, I don't
[June:] oh
[Peggy:] know nothing after that, but anyway I said it will, I'm putting this away so I'll have a hundred pound then and if she doesn't come I says I'll have a hundred pound for
[Ernest:] yeah, yeah
[Peggy:] now if I want to go down to the sea front well I'll shall get a taxi and, and shan't be worrying where me next meals coming from because I've saved it, so, so that's, that's no worry, I was saying to Arthur if we went to Butlins well it would take all we had, because it, we couldn't go to Butlins under three hundred pounds for two of us, we couldn't go anywhere else, if we go to Blackpool, our, our said to, to, to dad, I, I would like to pop to, er I don't think we will do because, er, the hassle for your dad, but er, I'd like to go and see aunty Annie, but I don't want to go to Nelson to do it
[Ernest:] no
[Peggy:] because it'd mean I'd have to go to bank of and, and this borough and
[June:] well I said I wouldn't mind spending a week at aunty Mary's me for a week
[Peggy:] and we couldn't do that well you're alright because she gi
[June:] but we're not we can't go, Angela can't get herself up, if she come here, who's gonna look after Sparkie? see what I mean
[Peggy:] that's no excuse I mean Sparkie I'd come here, all the time, well Iris has a I mean
[June:] well don't you think your mum I'd have it?
[Peggy:] why do you think that?
[June:] I don't know him [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] oh don't be so daft, I had him er over a year
[June:] he's a little, aye I know but he's, yeah I know but it wasn't for a week was it?
[Peggy:] he's, it wasn't a minute struggle, you, you kept harping on all week he's in, in the
[June:] he jumps in the window mum and
[Peggy:] well you get Shane he's a badden
[June:] [LAUGHTER] he jumps in the window []
[Peggy:] is he
[Arthur:] he's on his best behaviour
[Peggy:] he's, he's awful but, er never made more bother with, some kids down there by the erm
[June:] so honestly mum if we I mean if we
[Peggy:] but
[June:] wanted a week somewhere would you have him for us with Angela?
[Peggy:] of course we would wouldn't we?
[Ernest:] who?
[June:] we'd give you the money for his food and that little Sparkie
[Peggy:] Angela and er Angela and I'll tell you what she can come anytime she wants
[June:] little Sparkie
[Ernest:] yeah, of course
[Peggy:] and I mean you can get about when you, when you go but we can't so it's no good, if we put a bed in our spare room
[June:] I said I'd like a break, spend a week with aunty Mary or summat in that flat, driving me
[Ernest:] I know
[Peggy:] I mean I could say well like Elsie I could say ooh well I mean she comes, she leaves him I mean nine o'clock in the morning
[June:] to sign on
[Peggy:] and she doesn't get home until half past, six it's
[Ernest:] I know
[Peggy:] all day by yourself, well I couldn't do that with your dad
[Ernest:] no
[Peggy:] well, like I'd say I'd go down to post office, I say no I'll go with ya, it was raining last Thursday, I said no I'll go with ya, so I said I'll wait and see if it'll, it'll be fine, but he's not like that he's an old, I wouldn't, well
[June:] well we were only talking about
[Peggy:] I wouldn't dare leave him by himself I wouldn't think of leaving your dad by himself, going out gadding about
[June:] we were only thinking about it this morning and I says I wouldn't mind a break, you know, like, cos, I mean aunty Mary's always inviting us, and, and we were talking about the cat
[Peggy:] I mean there's, there's nowt no harm if, if, if you went to aunty Mary's and she definitely gave a date, a date to come, it would be nice if you went and come back
[Arthur:] fetch her back, mm
[June:] come back with her, come back with her
[Peggy:] yeah, yeah
[Arthur:] oh
[Peggy:] I mean er
[June:] you know, so to go before hand and fetch her here back with us
[Peggy:] what I'm saying is with Arthur says get yourself four hundred pound go to aunty Mary's, but you don't want to go to aunty Mary's do ya?, you'd rather her come here
[Ernest:] I'd rather she come here
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] I've got
[Peggy:] I mean
[Ernest:] to the stage now where I don't want to run about
[Arthur:] no
[Peggy:] I mean if, he, it's alright your dad doesn't moan
[June:] mm
[Peggy:] and you know that, I mean your dad
[June:] well I says
[Ernest:] plenty of
[June:] to Arthur I want a change from that flat I'm sick of looking at four walls
[Arthur:] the what?
[Ernest:] I like the new single decker
[Peggy:] well when you're only young I mean
[Ernest:] I like them
[June:] that's it
[Ernest:] they are comfortable
[Arthur:] yeah
[Peggy:] you're only young people
[Arthur:] I'm forty eight, oh dear
[June:] and it's like I said mum it's not because I don't trust Angela
[Arthur:] you mean the blue ones
[June:] I'm worried
[Ernest:] aye, yes that's right
[June:] she cannae get herself up in the morning if there's nobody there, can she?
[Arthur:] well I don't know, she got herself up this morning
[June:] yeah, I know, but, you, you know what she's like
[Peggy:] there's no need for her to be on her own, I mean there's a bus stop right at door
[June:] that's what I said
[Arthur:] that's what we said
[June:] I says if she went up to your mum and dad, I said the eighteen drops her right, you know, the stop
[Arthur:] mm... we'll have to see anyway
[June:] plus, plus Sparkie I'll be alright with Angela
[Ernest:] have you talked about this with her?
[Peggy:] I'd give it a good hiding if it didn't behave
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] have you talked about this with her before?
[June:] what?
[Arthur:] what?
[June:] what?
[Ernest:] what you're talking about now
[June:] no
[Arthur:] no
[Ernest:] oh, it's funny, but yesterday, cos you know
[June:] oh yeah
[Ernest:] he said...
[Peggy:] I don't know you were in here and I were in there, in your sitting room, she were happy to make tea, she were right working
[Ernest:] she were, she were helping to make tea and, I don't know how she, how it came, but she said... granddad, I thought oh something's coming now [LAUGHTER] I says what?, she said if I came to stay with you, she said after Richard's you know sale, if I came to stay with you for... at the weekend... shall I have to go in that
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ernest:] shall I have to go in that spare room?
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] well I said that's up to you, but I said if you want a bed back in our room, you'll have to fetch it I'm not [LAUGHTER] and yet she sleeps on her own at your house doesn't she?
[Arthur:] mm
[June:] yeah
[Arthur:] she doesn't like it though
[Ernest:] no, she doesn't like
[Arthur:] no
[Peggy:] yeah, well, er, as you say Arthur
[Arthur:] quite when er
[June:] she'll have to get used to it
[Arthur:] when Richard was staying she went in middle of us and she was, she were a lot more comfortable, than what she is when she's in her own room
[Peggy:] the thing with them, a bed with them, she'll not come in now, and never come, no reason why not, cos I know she smokes so what does she do that we haven't to know, so I says oh I says this bed isn't gonna keep being here and no An no Angela in it
[June:] no
[Peggy:] so I says it's going, now as far as the, er, what they call it that fella that come to did that job
[Ernest:] do
[Arthur:] mm?
[Peggy:] as far as I I wouldn't say it was any better, I don't know whether it is or not, but I've just done one good thing, it's got the bed shifted
[June:] yeah
[Peggy:] because he couldn't get to there you see so I said well it'll have to go now, well we've got it shifted and it's thrown away and, and that's the end of that, so I says now when she does decide to come and she wants to be in here, well I said she'll just have to carry a mattress in, and that'll be alright just for her to sleep on
[Arthur:] aye, yeah
[Peggy:] only there won't be a bed, but I said if she does, then she'll have to remember when she goes back home to put it back, cos I'm not lugging beds about
[June:] no
[Peggy:] she'll have to get somebody to help her to carry it back, that's all I said
[Ernest:] no I said we don't do that
[Arthur:] no
[Ernest:] because we've condensation
[Arthur:] oh
[Ernest:] so he said this one I'll have to be done
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] anyhow he looked all around and, very nice lad, er and then he came, he said I had to for you
[June:] by the way if we ever did do that stay with aunty Mary, right, then she came back with us
[Arthur:] yeah...
[June:] and Angela happens to be sleeping over as she does at her job
[Arthur:] yeah
[June:] where would she get the five, two, one from?, I mean she couldn't get a, on a Sunday, she'll have to have a taxi won't she?
[Peggy:] what?
[Arthur:] how'd ya mean if she's, she's sleeping over? if she was sleeping over
[June:] if she was sleeping up here and she was sleeping over in home, you know how she'll, at weekends, what she calls sleeping over
[Arthur:] yeah
[Ernest:] oh she could do that
[Arthur:] she'll be there
[June:] but if she wasn't sleeping over she had, say she had to
[Arthur:] as dad said she'd had
[June:] go from your mum and dad's on the Sunday morning, where would she catch a bus for the Sunday morning?
[Arthur:] er, probably the five fifty from down, on Perth Avenue
[Ernest:] is it running?
[Arthur:] yeah
[June:] but I thought you said there was only the five, two, one
[Arthur:] no, no no, no, five fifty goes to and she doesn't go to [unclear place name]
[June:] well it doesn't time
[Ernest:] oh that was the one we looked at
[Arthur:] yeah yeah
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] but she'll have to walk from wouldn't she?, right up Dean road and down Westow
[Ernest:] yeah, aye
[June:] yeah
[Ernest:] it's about
[Peggy:] it doesn't matter
[Ernest:] it's about nine minutes to seven I think isn't it something like that
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] from there
[June:] I should think she'd be earning enough money to pay a taxi
[Arthur:] I should think she will
[June:] on the Sunday
[Peggy:] well
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] I think she should, she might not be able, they'll be, they'll be I should think, I mean you'd have to, you'd have to see when aunty Mary were coming on what whenever
[June:] you've had to find er out for this Sunday haven't ya?
[Peggy:] oh if you want
[Arthur:] alright
[June:] cos she's working this Sunday mum
[Peggy:] mm? yeah
[June:] mum
[Peggy:] what?
[June:] she's working this Sunday
[Ernest:] yes
[June:] that's why you'd have to find out
[Ernest:] aye, we were, we were looking for one that, yeah
[Peggy:] tell her we kept looking Angela, you'll have to tell you can't get
[June:] you found it on the bus didn't ya?
[Peggy:] where'd you put it? where'd you put it
[Arthur:] oh I didn't find it, it were in, in thing
[June:] in thing, yeah
[Arthur:] the by drivers seat, and I just picked it up by chance really, er normally I don't bother with it, I look after 'em and I leave 'em, but I thought no I'll have one, to say
[June:] I tell you what I'm not happy with that lettuce, I shall look round again for an iceberg
[Arthur:] what lettuce?
[June:] that lettuce we got
[Arthur:] what's that got to do with buses
[June:] that special salad, I'm just saying
[Arthur:] oh, no
[June:] special salad, there were no iceberg, he didn't have an iceberg in the shop... I like me iceberg because you can eat it all can't you?
[Ernest:] aye, er I don't like the round lettuce at all
[Peggy:] no
[June:] and ooh aren't they dirty dad?, there're
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] real filthy... have to do that three times that one I've got
[Arthur:] special salads they soon will be getting rid off
[June:] yeah
[Ernest:] aye it's like
[June:] and the tomatoes
[Ernest:] aren't they?
[June:] yeah, and the tomatoes weren't bright, can't get no more of them nectarines, when he says keep 'em for two days cos they were hard, gets after two days
[Peggy:] not on the table chuck
[June:] when, when I bake one, it was like it was bad inside
[Ernest:] mind, what you want?
[Peggy:] erm
[Ernest:] somebody's drink going cold
[June:] eh?
[Arthur:] fag
[Peggy:] somebody's drinks going
[June:] mine
[Peggy:] cold on the table
[Arthur:] oh she likes cold tea
[Peggy:] now I know why
[June:] well I don't but erm, I can't do
[Arthur:] guess who liked cold tea
[Ernest:] do you want it?
[Peggy:] not yet
[Ernest:] not yet
[Peggy:] of course I do
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[June:] I tell you what mum if you're spending money at Co-Op, you can't see what you get can you?
[Peggy:] pardon?
[Ernest:] you can't anywhere
[June:] you're spending money can't see what you get
[Peggy:] eh we had some er fresh stuff
[June:] have the, stuff
[Peggy:] and I wish I'd remember that fella I'd had, I'd tell him off yeah
[Ernest:] yeah yeah
[June:] what price is he?
[Ernest:] forty five
[Peggy:] forty five
[June:] yeah, but Co-Op's dropped back down ain't it, to forty one
[Peggy:] yeah, but I've, but I mean he hasn't said he
[June:] yeah, yeah I know
[Ernest:] the milks milks gone back up though hasn't it?
[June:] eh, oh I don't know
[Peggy:] er, having got one er yesterday what you having?
[Ernest:] I'll just have a sandwich
[June:] one, five, dad
[Ernest:] eh?
[June:] one pound, five P
[Ernest:] one pound, five P, it's one sixteen down here
[June:] is it?
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] oh it's gone, it's gone from ninety seven to one five cos he got me one yesterday, he went to get that stuff yesterday, cos I spent what twenty pound eighteen pence yesterday and honestly I couldn't see what I got
[Peggy:] well I should say the like er
[June:] he says the toilet rolls the soft ones have dropped down, cos I get the soft Kleenex ones, everybody's complaining about and he said they'd dropped them three pound, is it twenty nine?, to two eighty nine now
[Ernest:] mm
[June:] and there's nine
[Peggy:] oh do you get, have you get
[June:] eighty nine
[Peggy:] some er Bovril?
[Ernest:] aye I've done your Bovril
[June:] er I can't remember where I got them from, but they weren't in two dozen packets they were in dozens
[Ernest:] dozens aye
[Peggy:] aye it was a lot more weren't they?
[Arthur:] but we haven't seen that at all
[June:] I know but mum I haven't seen any two dozen boxes
[Arthur:] no we haven't seen any anywhere
[June:] so what I did I just got four packets of their dozens, cos he won't have anything else except Bovril
[Ernest:] no, well I don't like anything else
[June:] well actually me jars going right there and I can't remember, whether I did get that from Co-Op, I think I did Co-Op, but they were in dozens, and I think Presto had some
[Ernest:] oh well the Co-Op down here have them in dozens, but they
[June:] yeah Presto had some in, and they were in dozens
[Ernest:] hundred and odd, there, but you know for two packets
[June:] yeah they're dearer aren't they, the
[Peggy:] yeah
[June:] I can't remember how much... I can't remember how much...
[Peggy:] have you got
[June:] can't remember if it was forty nine or fifty nine for a dozen
[Ernest:] yeah summat like that
[June:] yeah
[Peggy:] yeah they're very dear
[June:] I think it were forty nine for a dozen
[Ernest:] yes I think it was summat like that June
[June:] ninety eight, I think it was for two dozen, what happen we didn't have much choice you couldn't get the two dozen boxes Arthur where did we get the Bovrils from?
[Arthur:] [sigh]
[June:] they were only in dozen boxes weren't they?
[Arthur:] er, I think it were Denmark Centre
[June:] Denmark Centre
[Ernest:] Denmark Centre
[Arthur:] think so
[June:] where do they have the two dozens, when we last got the two dozen box?
[Peggy:] eh?
[Arthur:] Asda
[June:] Asda
[Arthur:] and Co-Op a long time ago
[June:] but Asda there was the last place to have, we got er two dozen box from
[Arthur:] but that was sold out until the day when I went in for milk
[June:] er dad says it's one sixteen now
[Peggy:] well will you have that Arthur?
[Arthur:] yes
[Peggy:] that enough tomato?
[Arthur:] aye, can I have some lettuce is there?
[Peggy:] yes there is some lettuce I didn't know you wanted it
[Arthur:] I, well then, I I don't want no cucumber though
[Peggy:] eh?
[Arthur:] don't want no cucumber
[Peggy:] you don't want no cucumber
[Arthur:] no I don't want none, erm, a hundred a five
[June:] the ordinary the thing I was just telling you dad
[Arthur:] it was, but the
[Peggy:] there's no, there's no lettuce
[Arthur:] oh it don't matter then, does it
[June:] do you want a bit of mine?
[Arthur:] there's skimmed and their semi skimmed was ninety eight, but the fresh stuff was a hundred and five... and last time I get some it was ninety seven
[Peggy:] oh you could of had egg Arthur
[Arthur:] aye, go on then
[Peggy:] I'll boil one, but I didn't know Arthur wanted a salad, cos he reckons he doesn't like
[Arthur:] I'll have a salad, I'm not bothered, I'm saying I'm not that hungry so a salad would go down nicely....
[Ernest:] Where there're at least er a hundred and sixteen down here
[Arthur:] a hundred and sixteen that's
[June:] did you get any headache tablets mum?
[Peggy:] no, I forgot... well see I forgotten and I'd been down to Boots an all... I, aunty Mary had them once, one time and said
[June:] yeah what d'ya take if you've a bad head?, huh
[Arthur:] it gets a bit of a chore with different
[Peggy:] I grin and bear it
[June:] oh
[Arthur:] prices all over shop
[June:] my nose starts pouring of blood
[Peggy:] oh so does mine well you didn't say you wanted a salad darling
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] I could of done that
[Arthur:] I said I'll have a owt
[Peggy:] for ya, well we could, you'll have to wait a minute now
[Arthur:] oh I will then...
[June:] er, here
[Arthur:] oh it's
[Ernest:] what?
[June:] eggs are ya?
[Peggy:] how'd they get there?
[Ernest:] well I take them away when I've finished with them
[Peggy:] do you want a knife and fork?
[June:] just a, wait a minute, no
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[Arthur:] Ee, now where did I see them?, seventy two pence on Shanks on Baldwin Lane...
[Ernest:] seventy two pence?
[Arthur:] yeah, is that good?
[Ernest:] mm?
[Arthur:] seventy two pence
[June:] here
[Ernest:] oh they're cheaper at er
[June:] what?
[Ernest:] just
[June:] dad are you coming to table or
[Peggy:] yeah
[June:] aye, I shall do even eventually, er... the other end days
[Arthur:] days, oh aye, yeah yeah
[Ernest:] nineteen pence a pound in there
[Arthur:] oh, oh
[Peggy:] aren't you love?
[June:] what?
[Arthur:] what?
[Peggy:] seems with
[Arthur:] what a shame
[Peggy:] you can sit on the
[Ernest:] there shanks usually weigh about two and a half pound
[Arthur:] oh, well that's cheaper then there
[Ernest:] that's cheaper yeah
[Arthur:] oh...
[Ernest:] ee I'll tell you whose here er Presto
[Arthur:] er
[Ernest:] seventy two a pound
[Arthur:] oh
[Ernest:] for, you know a, just a little Oxo
[Arthur:] yeah, yeah, I didn't know what they were like at seventy two it just said on window on one of them shops on Baldwin Lane
[Ernest:] er, we got two of those last week didn't we?
[Peggy:] mm?
[Ernest:] where have they been?
[Peggy:] what?, what you talking about?
[Ernest:] those er shanks, that er, er nineteen a pound on Baldwin Lane
[Arthur:] probably been to Lambeth House I think
[Peggy:] well that were a long time ago, they've got some from down here, Edinburgh Road, you got one from Edinburgh Road
[Ernest:] aye I got one from Edinburgh Road, but I don't know how much there up there are, there's no price on them
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[Ernest:] well ya, you know, you go round and fry this, makes your dinner
[Peggy:] oh well now that's summat else we don't do now, we don't, there's some at sixpence and some at tuppence we don't go round in a who
[Arthur:] no
[Peggy:] knows where to get into tuppence since when we've had the car
[Ernest:] we don't double back on our
[Peggy:] we just
[Arthur:] no well you can't I mean
[Peggy:] we just er get it now
[June:] anybody, anybody
[Arthur:] that's daft
[June:] have you got the er
[Ernest:] I tell you what we like
[Peggy:] we're not wasteful right, but, oh we can do it now because you're not thinking er, a tyres gonna want bursting can ya?
[Arthur:] no
[June:] oh I don't do that anymore
[Arthur:] you put that in
[Ernest:] aye
[Peggy:] well I mean your well I mean if you're thinking of tyres gonna go, you've got to have your money in your purse like
[June:] oh yeah
[Peggy:] you know there isn't gonna one go now
[Arthur:] eh, you put 'em in?
[Peggy:] yeah I would
[Arthur:] well you need them in your hand so what have you done with them?
[Peggy:] I don't know...
[Ernest:] er mushy peas
[Arthur:] aye
[Ernest:] ooh they're lovely
[Arthur:] are they?
[Ernest:] only twenty four for a packet
[June:] is that the down town?
[Ernest:] down town, yeah
[Arthur:] oh I'll have to have look down there then, cos we buy 'em, now where do we get 'em from now?, er Co-Op we got 'em from last time didn't we?
[June:] what love?
[Arthur:] them mushy peas, well marrow fat
[June:] marrow fat yeah
[Arthur:] yeah
[June:] but, yeah because by the time you've paid your bus fare to
[Ernest:] well that's it aye
[June:] er
[Arthur:] yeah...
[June:] shall I sit down to mine or shall I wait?
[Arthur:] no stand up
[June:] I mean shall I eat or not
[Peggy:] no you can wait because er you can wait because it's not going to be that long
[June:] yeah
[Peggy:] you can wait because er it'd, it'd be time, she'll have eaten up and then she'll say ooh I'll have another round I haven't had any
[Arthur:] mushy peas
[June:] oh yeah, oh, I don't know what you do with 'em you know me [LAUGHTER] I don't []
[Peggy:] put on the cooker, cook 'em
[Arthur:] you just put 'em in
[Peggy:] don't act gormless, you don't know what to do with them at fifty two...
[Arthur:] fifty three
[Peggy:] fifty three, well...
[June:] do you soak them or something?
[Arthur:] no
[Peggy:] no
[June:] oh er, what you do, you just put them in a saucepan?
[Arthur:] just put them in a pan and cook 'em
[June:] with water in 'em?
[Ernest:] oh yes you want some water with them otherwise they'll burn
[Peggy:] ooh listen her, she's acting as if she's now
[Arthur:] there er, she's half brain it'll be lonely...
[Ernest:] no they take about twenty minutes with salt... a little bit of salt, give them plenty of water so that
[June:] so that's down town?
[Ernest:] down town, aye
[June:] there's a nice Iceflow
[Arthur:] aye there is
[Ernest:] oh is there?
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] oh I didn't know
[Peggy:] is there?
[Arthur:] yeah
[June:] yeah, near where we go for the
[Arthur:] Iceflow no it's Iceland is that,
[Ernest:] Iceland?
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] where it, no I thought the only Iceland
[Arthur:] yeah, no, near that butchers
[June:] you know the butchers where the vets
[Peggy:] much further down
[June:] you know the vets?
[Arthur:] oh no
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] where you take the animals, you come out right, and there's a butchers in't there?, cross over road, big shops on corner, it's on that block
[Ernest:] mm
[June:] corner where I use to turn to work Street, where you used to live
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] on that block
[Ernest:] on that block
[June:] yeah
[Ernest:] from where about, where the butchers used to be
[Arthur:] yeah, aye, it's round about there, it's either Iceflow or Iceland I'm not sure which one it is
[June:] I'm sure it was Iceland...
[Arthur:] but that in King Street is Iceflow in't it? what
[June:] me mum says I have to wait
[Arthur:] oh yeah... poor thing, it won't go cold
[June:] [LAUGHTER] if I have to wait for you I'll wait forever cos your eggs are not done
[Arthur:] oh they will be in a minute
[Peggy:] oh it won't be long...
[June:] mm...
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[June:] [clears throat] oh
[Ernest:] I've just nipped it off the top of that one, that's not growing any more
[June:] oh it's beautiful that, it's pink in't it?
[Peggy:] yes, but you're alright aren't you pet, the race horses
[June:] them daffodils are gorgeous
[Arthur:] they're standing up again have you noticed
[Peggy:] mm
[Ernest:] yeah
[Arthur:] they were lying down the other day
[June:] don't you ever put 'em in a vase mum?
[Peggy:] no, they die so quick
[Arthur:] they die in vases
[Peggy:] I had me others in a vase
[June:] eh, me flowers are still lasting
[Peggy:] yeah, they are, huh...
[Ernest:] got some more mince this week shan't we?
[Peggy:] yes
[June:] oh them steaks we were beautiful
[Arthur:] aye over the lane ninety nine pence
[Ernest:] ninety nine
[Arthur:] ninety nine
[Peggy:] eh?
[June:] yeah, but she charges five pound cos there must of been some little bits over
[Arthur:] yeah well that was five pound
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[Arthur:] five pound for five pound
[June:] mind it's nice in it?
[Arthur:] five pound a pound, it's nice mince, yeah
[June:] oh we just happened to be down town
[Arthur:] yeah they were nice were them steak puddings, I enjoyed them
[June:] they were beautiful
[Arthur:] no I were gonna do, I got them for the days
[Peggy:] he says they were lovely
[Arthur:] there were four pound
[June:] it's not Daves love
[Arthur:] yes it is, it's Daves butchers yes
[June:] the one on the left?
[Ernest:] the one on the corner
[June:] where we do the stew frying?
[Arthur:] the one on the corner, you know where the fish shop used to be
[June:] oh no, I thought you said you got 'em from butchers
[Arthur:] what were they four for ninety nine pence?
[June:] yeah
[Peggy:] what?
[Ernest:] aye
[June:] mince pies
[Arthur:] mince pies
[Peggy:] oh
[Arthur:] well you make your own, I know you do, but they were nice
[Ernest:] I tell you who makes a nice mince pie, er Muriel from er
[Arthur:] who?
[Peggy:] who'd?, what?
[Ernest:] Edinburgh Road Muriel
[Peggy:] who were?
[Arthur:] aye
[Peggy:] down Edinburgh Road you said to down Edinburgh Road we've never gone in this place, it's a cook meat shop
[Arthur:] mm
[Peggy:] I haven't been in it since we've been here and I said ooh there, they're packed out and they had some beautiful stuff
[Arthur:] mm
[Peggy:] looks nice, no burnt or anything, and I says ee it's lovely is it, I said alright, would been down for this morning like and I says ooh come on then don't bother when you get home starting making anything I says just say, let's ask for steak pies, so I says er can we have er two steak and kidney pies please?, she said I'm sorry we don't, there isn't any kidney an all, I'm glad there isn't I didn't want, well I'd of eaten 'em like but I'd rather have them without
[June:] yeah
[Peggy:] she said right, and they were forty, forty seven, well where ever you go they're fifty or fifty three for steak and kidney, steak pies and they were really nice weren't they?
[Ernest:] yeah, they were
[Peggy:] we really enjoyed them, but you see if we'd of got four they wouldn't of been so nice
[Arthur:] no
[Peggy:] but er, but tomorrow I might go down and get some again you see, cos they were really nice
[June:] well you got them four for ninety nine and you enjoyed them didn't you?
[Arthur:] of them, I've had 'em before so I know they're nice
[June:] Angela liked 'em didn't she?
[Peggy:] yeah
[Arthur:] yeah
[June:] normally she's a pain
[Peggy:] I mean you're better to get stuff that you... well if you get 'em it just so happens that
[June:] how many packets of them mushy peas did you get?
[Ernest:] I just got the one
[Peggy:] just got the one
[June:] oh I was gonna say
[Peggy:] cos I had one mushy peas but, they were really nice with them weren't they? we enjoyed them because
[Ernest:] aye, it was
[Peggy:] it, they were from tins, but
[June:] yeah, because when I
[Peggy:] they're not as
[June:] well when I open me tin of marrow fat and then I drain and I put butter in and mash, to mushy any way
[Peggy:] yeah
[June:] I don't like the other peas, I love the marrow fat peas, the others are sweet though, I'm not struck on them...
[Ernest:] no we got
[June:] and I can't do, I can't do potatoes and mince and carrots and stuff like that because this one ere just likes potatoes and mince
[Arthur:] no I don't
[June:] and the other one won't eat carrots, we end up getting
[Ernest:] oh I love carrots
[June:] no, and mean end up doing separate stew mum I am for myself... it's not fair that because I can't eat
[Arthur:] no well you shouldn't put carrots in, you should put 'em in a separate pan
[June:] no Arthur that's how we made it where I come from
[Arthur:] yeah, but I don't like it like that, I like mince and potatoes
[June:] stew where I come from is carrots, er turnips, potatoes and meat, I tell you what I haven't had, I think I'll have a change, I think I'll have some instead of mince for a change stewing beef
[Arthur:] oh no
[June:] oh yes, look mum it doesn't mean does it cos he doesn't like it I can't have some stewing beef
[Peggy:] stewing beef, you like stewing beef
[Arthur:] you've got to sacrifice it before it's tender
[June:] no you haven't, not in the pressure cooker, no, not, no you haven't, well do without, you don't need to have any, make your own self
[Arthur:] I will
[June:] I haven't had any stewing beef for ages
[Arthur:] what do you keep looking at that for?
[June:] see where it switches off
[Arthur:] well it'll switch off when it's done
[June:] well I just fancy some stewing beef, you have what you like love don't you?
[Peggy:] stewing beef, you don't like stewing beef
[Arthur:] I do, but you've got to sacrifice it so, until it's tender
[Peggy:] aye, ney
[June:] not in pressure cooker you haven't
[Arthur:] otherwise it ends up like bullets
[June:] well you don't have to have any... but I don't see why I should do without because you don't want any
[Arthur:] and chewing it and chewing it
[Peggy:] normally tender
[Arthur:] and chewing it and chewing it and chewing it and chewing it
[June:] I'm gonna get myself some
[Arthur:] it's not going anywhere
[June:] there's many a time I don't buy stuff mum for myself
[Ernest:] these are nice
[June:] because these two are funny
[Arthur:] what are them?
[Peggy:] oh I don't buy I only buy what them likes, but as you say
[Arthur:] aye, steam steak in gravy, mm, yeah
[Ernest:] I just
[June:] I just fancy a bit of stewing beef
[Arthur:] yeah well we get it through job lot
[Peggy:] all the time
[Arthur:] in, the yellow label
[Peggy:] oh I like
[Arthur:] or a shepherds pie filling, that's it
[Peggy:] I think you can get fed up with mince all the time can't you?, can you you know every night
[Arthur:] there's Angela, Angela never gets tired of mince
[June:] no I know
[Ernest:] no I don't
[Arthur:] I like me mince
[June:] he loves mince
[Arthur:] mince or steak
[Peggy:] right, I don't think mine are er a slice of bread please a slice of bread please, mm
[Arthur:] well that's her fault
[Peggy:] eh?
[June:] I know
[Peggy:] what?
[June:] I says two of them, now I'm being she already had a dinner and she went out about four o'clock for western spirit
[Peggy:] oh, it's her fault
[Arthur:] well that's what I said it's her fault, there's plenty of food in
[June:] watch ya, I'm starving, when she comes in I bet she buys summat
[Arthur:] she'll take herself to
[Peggy:] mm
[Arthur:] yeah
[Ernest:] when she came up yesterday I said, we've had our dinner, I said do you want, want some dinner? of course I put it in the oven for her
[Arthur:] yeah
[Ernest:] no she said I'm alright now I've had a sandwich, so, anyhow... she left it, so I left it, I said well it's there if you want, she said I'll eat it later then granddad, anyhow making the tea she said put the microwave on and we, we were having salmon
[June:] we haven't had any salmon for ages have we?
[Ernest:] oh she set to work and she cleared the... she had, what did she have?, meat, er chicken, potatoes, cauliflower, Yorkshire pudding
[Arthur:] aye, she said she had some chicken
[Ernest:] yeah she had, eh?
[Peggy:] having one of these eggs
[Ernest:] I don't know, you put 'em in
[Peggy:] are you having one?
[Ernest:] I'm not bothered
[Peggy:] no, not bothered, no
[Ernest:] well er no then if you want it
[Peggy:] I don't want it, I've got what I want here, oh I'm alright
[Ernest:] er, tt, she says is there a salmon left granddad?, I said yes of course there is
[June:] mm and when she starts eating she can eat
[Ernest:] yeah
[June:] can't she?
[Arthur:] oh aye
[June:] ain't ya? ah, well I think she's going off er, either that or she's lazy, I think she's going off bacon
[Peggy:] that's mine
[Ernest:] of what?
[June:] bacon
[Ernest:] bacon
[June:] put bacon in and there's still some bacon in, it's usually all gone...
[Ernest:] I were thinking, oh it were the day you came up with them and then you went off to, er
[June:] Newcastle
[Ernest:] Newcastle, well I put, I thought you were staying to tea so I put six eggs on
[Arthur:] oh aye, yeah, alright
[Peggy:] you put what?
[Ernest:] put six eggs on didn't I?, anyhow, I'm putting, I'm putting two on
[Arthur:] mm
[Ernest:] on his salad and he eat it, I says there's an egg here Richard do you want it?, yes I'll eat it
[Arthur:] oh aye, he's yeah here is
[Peggy:] he's a big eater an all in he?
[Arthur:] mm, aye, he's got a good job to
[Peggy:] I always thought our lads were big eaters, till I come across him, flipping heck
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[Ernest:] cos I don't mind what they have so long as they eat it
[Arthur:] well that's it
[June:] yeah, oh I tell you dad what David said today when he come, tt, about the custard [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] oh aye he says, I fancied, I fancied some custard last night
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] so he said I did, I tried to make some in microwave and he says it turned out like sludge
[June:] he said I'd er
[Arthur:] cement
[June:] like cement he says I had to throw it all away
[Arthur:] throw it all away
[June:] of course he had no recipe, although I don't make custard in micro I wouldn't know how to do it in microwave
[Ernest:] I always I always make it in microwave
[June:] well I'll have to have the thingy of, of you dad
[Arthur:] we've got it in book
[June:] give it to David
[Arthur:] you got it in book
[Peggy:] what you doing now?
[Ernest:] you said you wanted some
[June:] I always er
[Peggy:] have you got er, have you got your knife and fork June?
[June:] yes, yes
[Peggy:] has Arthur got one?
[June:] yes, dad hasn't, you haven't
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[Arthur:] could use knifes and forks
[June:] take that back in now?
[Arthur:] no switch it off
[June:] no, it's nearly to the end
[Ernest:] [humming]
[Arthur:] well take it in then
[June:] it's going on the end mum, on the stool
[Peggy:] right
[June:] look at my mother pinching my meat to put on yours [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] oh, I'll take it back
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] there we are... look at that
[Arthur:] that's it, you have it...
[Peggy:] she doesn't like to get stuff pinched off her does she Arthur?
[Arthur:] aye
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] what's that?
[June:] oh that's good in't it?
[Peggy:] rhubarb
[June:] that's good
[Peggy:] what?
[June:] plenty thanks very much
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] what?
[June:] what he's just said didn't say what he said though
[Peggy:] no, what'd ya say Arthur what's this?
[Arthur:] aye?
[Peggy:] rhubarb
[Arthur:] oh, oh look
[Peggy:] that's cake
[Arthur:] why, why'd you call it cake
[Peggy:] I dunno
[Arthur:] perhaps it knows it's gonna get eat
[Peggy:] yes, that's right
[Arthur:] well that's easy
[Peggy:] it is......
[Ernest:] [humming]
[June:] [sneeze]
[Peggy:] that's it, you'd better hurry, she want one off you, so there's a bus stop for Andrew
[June:] well the next time I get something, she'll probably have her own place [LAUGHTER] But mum I haven't...
[Peggy:] You like a don't ya?
[June:] yes please mum...
[Peggy:] right, er
[speaker004:] That's in the right way.
[Ernest:] Mm....
[June:] Don't like that red onion much.
[Ernest:] Eh?
[June:] That red onion special salad.
[Ernest:] special salad.
[June:] Mm. I took the onion out the middle.
[Ernest:] I'm surprised the about it actually.
[June:] It was it was horrible.
[Ernest:] Well. to get rid of.
[June:] special salad, sixty nine pence....
[Arthur:] It's a red onion.
[June:] . Mm yeah a red onion.
[Ernest:] A raw onion.
[June:] Only a red one.... I know it won't be enough for me and Angela cos you're not a salad.
[Ernest:] How much is there?...
[Peggy:] Now then can I sit down now.
[Arthur:] mum.
[Peggy:] .... What's she doing Andr Arthur.
[June:] .
[Peggy:] .
[Ernest:] salad
[June:] I do.
[Arthur:] just er
[June:] . .
[Ernest:] Oh.
[June:] . Road in here. Stoke on Trent.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] [LAUGHTER].... Eh the lad that came, he said, He was a nice lad wasn't he?
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Peggy:] Came in, wanted to check over it. So I said yes. So he said er, Oh eh, wait a minute he said, where do you come from? where's that accent? I said, what do you mean, that accent. Well he says, you talk just like my mother.
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] I says, Oh do I, he says yes. He said, she's she's from Manchester. Well I said Manchester's Lancashire. Oh he says, ee yes, he says, my you do.
[June:] [LAUGHTER].
[Peggy:] . And then he was saying different things like he said er you know say, well w we were in. I said and and the lady said, ooh you're round here, I says,. And then I said he says he said, Ah, he says, you were Lancashire. I said and there's Yorkshire. Oh, he said, we've been to Yorkshire for our honeymoon. So oh aye have you, where. Oh she says, you wouldn't know where it was, she said, it's only a little place she said, Skipton. So she said, yes, she said, but you wouldn't know where this place was. So I said, well I don't know, I said, where was it? She said it was, oh well it were a place called erm, she says.
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] So oh. And I don't know it? No she said, you wouldn't know it.. where did you stay in? She said, ooh, she said,
[Ernest:] Terrace.
[Peggy:] Terrace. Oh I said, well, I said, shall I tell you something. She said yeah. Well I said, I was born in and I was also born in Terrace.
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] Oh, she said, well well I stopped at number two. So your dad said, well I was the boy next door but one. Ee, she says, my goodness a small world you know. And she was you wonder where it is, it's just a little village, she said.
[Ernest:] Mm.
[Peggy:] Huh. that lad came
[Ernest:] When was this all? Oh Oh. Huh.
[June:] And you know people in the garage you know in Lincoln and down that way, nobody seems to have heard much of.
[Arthur:] Oh no it's only a tiny village.
[June:] Yeah, they know the big places and you know like Halifax and Yeah but you say, where's that?
[Ernest:] Ju just recently I met somebody. And He said, you're from Yorkshire aren't you, I said yes. He said, er where from...
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Ernest:] Well he said, there's Craven, he said,, or. And I said it's. He said, I knew it was from round there somewhere. And he said I think he said it was his uncle lived in.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Ernest:] And he said, I don't retired now, but he said, for years he worked for Rolls Royce. And I said, yes. It's amazing how you come across people.
[June:] Well quite honestly dad, when folk talk to me, they never get my right accent.
[Arthur:] Cos you're a foreigner.
[June:] . They turn round and say to me, they never say Stoke on Trent, they turn round and say to me, what part of Yorkshire are you from? What part of Lancashire are you from? What part of Birmingham are you from. How come they can't get the right one?
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] my mum he's been here forty year and she's never lost never lost her accent.
[June:] .
[Ernest:] I don't think.
[Arthur:] No I.
[Peggy:] You've and said that.
[Ernest:] north of Birmingham....
[June:] from Birmingham.
[Peggy:] ....
[June:] .... But most of the time it's what part of Yorkshire? What part of Lancashire? Do you think do you not think sometimes dad that some of the Stoke on the broad Stoke on Trent accent is a bit like Lancashire or Yorkshire.
[Ernest:] Mm Yeah.... Yes and er
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Ernest:] What do you call them?
[Arthur:] .
[June:] .
[Ernest:] No not the er
[June:] .
[Ernest:] No at er Newcastle..
[June:] .
[Ernest:] he was er... very near to the Lancashire accent.
[June:] Mm.
[Ernest:] But me brother wasn't. Me brother was a real... er Stoke on Trent.
[June:] Yeah....
[Arthur:] .
[Ernest:] Alan Alan is a
[June:] .
[Ernest:] A real cultured Geordie.
[Arthur:] Mm?
[June:] .
[Arthur:] . Where does he get that from?
[June:] .
[Arthur:] .
[June:] .
[Arthur:] No.
[June:] ....
[Ernest:] .
[Arthur:] come back tomorrow.
[Peggy:] Mm. right away weren't he.
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] Hey them flowers are not doing so bad are they?
[June:] No.
[Ernest:] .
[Arthur:] [cough].....
[June:] .
[Arthur:] Eh?
[Peggy:] give me a twenty five pound voucher.
[June:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] want it for somewhere different from Marks and Spencers.
[Arthur:] you won't get so much for twenty five pound in Marks and Spencers.
[Peggy:] Well it's not that, what do they sell that you want.
[Arthur:] Well there's the food place isn't there.
[Peggy:] Ee I dunno.
[Ernest:] food market I'd have thought.
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] awful now, it's going to boot, Marks and Spencers. They used to have some nice nighties and
[Arthur:] Ah but they still Newcastle.
[Peggy:] Mm.
[Arthur:] They've got 'em but they're in Newcastle.
[Peggy:] South Shields
[June:] She didn't say I had to go to South Shields.
[Arthur:] No. Shi South Shields is
[Peggy:] No.
[Arthur:] a good store.
[Peggy:] Newcastle.
[Arthur:] No. only cost thirty pence.
[Peggy:] come back, can't stop there forever.
[June:] ....
[Arthur:] .
[June:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] ....
[June:] I'm not stopping eating Arthur, just because I've got this weight on me. It's not my.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] Crikey, I could understand it if I ate four meals a day.
[Ernest:] .
[June:] I mean dad I don't eat four meals a day.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] No it doesn't cos your mother and dad don't believe
[Peggy:] No but that's it you see.
[Arthur:] Yeah. I haven't done so bad since I went have I.
[Ernest:] No.
[June:] I had that bit today. I could live off that. If somebody put salad in front of me all the time, I'd just it wouldn't bother me
[Peggy:] like about salads is there.
[June:] .
[Arthur:] Well normally he says a salad makes him hungry....
[June:] have that salad, and do you know, ten minutes, fifteen minutes after say he was hungry.
[Arthur:] Oh aye I know.
[Ernest:] Who?
[Peggy:] Richard. salad he had here because it's three eggs. On it. throw it out because.
[Arthur:] I'm gonna let your dad or your mam put my rhubarb an cos I'll end up dropping it.
[Peggy:] ....
[Ernest:] .... like that.... I mean once there's a space well you're alright.
[Arthur:] Yes, once you've got the first one.
[June:] ....
[Arthur:] .
[June:] It's only a little bit....
[Arthur:] .
[June:] [LAUGHTER].
[Arthur:] Flaming dustbin.
[June:] I'm not. Our dad says he doesn't mind what people eat, as long as they eat it all.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] Don't you dad.
[Arthur:] Say when.
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[June:] Right.
[Arthur:] I'd better eat that.
[June:] Well eat it. I don't turn my nose up at anything.
[Arthur:] That's true. [LAUGHTER].
[June:] The man can't say I'm a fad can he mum.
[Arthur:] No.
[June:] Not like some folk.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] Did he tell you w he'd been to Hill Hotel.
[Peggy:] Mm.
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[June:] Ground floor.
[Ernest:] Nice?
[June:] I haven't seen it but Arthur says it's nice.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] that'll suit me.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] No just outside York [LAUGHTER].
[Arthur:] York.
[Ernest:] .
[Arthur:] .
[June:] He can have a taxi.
[Arthur:] .
[June:] .
[Arthur:] Eh?
[June:] ?
[Arthur:] Have I what? round here.
[June:] Careful mother.
[Arthur:] thank you.
[June:] Hey?... Are you fetching your your clothes with you?
[Peggy:] Are we heck. you think we were gonna change it.....
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] .
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] think we're gonna go think we're gonna go.
[Arthur:] Oh dear.
[Peggy:] Don't be daft.
[Arthur:] go all the way out.
[Peggy:] Well of course they do
[Arthur:] Bride and groom's.
[Peggy:] .
[Arthur:] Well.
[Peggy:] Well.
[Arthur:] by bus.
[Peggy:] Plenty of money. Use it for what it should be used for.
[Ernest:] .
[June:] Yeah no we aren't.
[Arthur:] Put 'em on bus we'll never see 'em couple of hours. Ee Sunday
[June:] What they gonna do though, tell taxi go away or wait outside.
[Peggy:] What
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] Where? No go to have your reception and he comes back at a a certain time. And they've got to be ready. long it takes If it well they say, come on, time we'll have to go....
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] No you'll be you'll have to get and get it written down because doesn't know what a a groomsman is. Mm.
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] What?
[June:] Well I'm not doing it for her, she can do it herself.
[Arthur:] Oh aye.
[Peggy:] What?
[June:] I says
[Arthur:] She'd decided now she's having Carmen as bridesmaid, not.
[June:] Cos Carmen's on.
[Arthur:] Which is what she should have done in first place.
[June:] Yeah but I mean, she's here to be isn't she? Well you see, at the minute Karen has her own dress. So yo She talked to you Angela didn't she and you said, I don't see why you can't have pink. Karen went to a wedding and er... somebody's wedding and she still has a dress.
[Arthur:] Marilyn's Marilyn's.
[June:] Marilyn's it it's not right down to the ankles but it's reasonable you know and it's peach. try it on see if it still fits her. I mean she's only a little doll isn't she.
[Peggy:] said she weren't wearing why are you bothering.
[June:] Size ten.
[Ernest:] Mm?
[June:] Size ten Karen.
[Ernest:] Mm I suppose she will be....
[Peggy:] Karen said she w buying her own so why bother?
[Arthur:] Ah well not be able to buy her own.
[Peggy:] Eh?
[Arthur:] . Eh?
[Peggy:] Well well she should have had it by then. kindergarten.
[Arthur:] No no.
[June:] The point is she's not on the doorstep mum is she, she's two hundred and fifty miles away. And that woman where we got Angela's dress from, if er Karen's peach dress does fit her, well at least Karen's there to be able to go where we got Angela's dress from. She's gonna have to come two hundred and fifty mile....
[Peggy:] No where you going?
[Arthur:] I'm going in the kitchen.
[Peggy:] Well wait till folks have had their tea.
[Arthur:] I finished.
[Peggy:] Well we'd have finished if we sat down when you did.... walk away I tell you, you can't walk out in middle of sermon.
[Arthur:] ....
[Peggy:] I said to Angela, eh, I said, if you go for that job you can't stop in middle of ceremony and say I have to go out granddad.
[June:] You're not going straight after the reception are you dad?
[Peggy:] It just depends how dad is.
[Ernest:] It depends.
[Peggy:] And if we do we might come back when we've changed. If we haven't decided have we whether
[June:] Mm?
[Peggy:] after tea.
[June:] Yeah. Mm.
[Arthur:] honeymoon.
[Peggy:] with him.
[June:] she's wrong.
[Peggy:] Mm?
[June:] I'm sure Richard said Isle of Man. She keeps saying, Isle of Wight Isle of Wight..
[Peggy:] Well you can't go to Isle of Wight at that time of day.
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] I don't know what they're doing.... all that money, good Lord.
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] five hundred pound Arthur.
[Arthur:] ..
[June:] They cannot just boot off somewhere without booking.
[Ernest:] .
[June:] Yeah well aye, he's gonna find out different isn't he.
[Peggy:] He'll find out he can't he'll have to go near somewhere.
[June:] He doesn't know it all....
[Peggy:] What is there at Isle of Wight that there isn't here?
[Arthur:] Palm trees.
[Peggy:] Mm?
[Arthur:] Palm trees.
[Peggy:] Oh.
[June:] There's no palm trees in Isle of Wight.
[Ernest:] .
[June:] Pardon?
[Arthur:] after I'd got back.
[June:] There's no palm trees in the Isle of Wight.
[Ernest:] .
[Arthur:] there are.
[June:] Where doe where do they think they're going to, the Canary Islands or something?
[Ernest:] palm trees at Torquay aren't there.
[June:] .
[Ernest:] All down the front at Torquay.
[June:] Yeah but you know what I mean dad, it's only a seaside thing isn't it?
[Arthur:] .
[June:] No but I mean it's it's no better than the seaside I mean.
[Peggy:] cheaper.
[Ernest:] Well no but I do I shouldn't say
[Peggy:] .
[Ernest:] certainly not at this time of the year.
[Peggy:] If they want to be on their own, they could go book a chalet down on beach.
[June:] Yeah that's an idea
[Ernest:] But I mean, the Isle of Wight if they went straight after the reception they wouldn't they wouldn't get there till Sunday.
[Peggy:] You can't think about they don't want to be on a station come here in Newcastle.
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] but they have to be told. say, alright but
[June:] just say yes or no.
[Peggy:] they don't er be having her fainting and taking her to into Wig er Isle of M Isle of Wight hospital.
[June:] It's gonna cost him enough what for cars and the wedding and what have you. And he'll find he's not so much change will he dad?
[Peggy:] .
[June:] don't come cheap.
[Peggy:] And I said you want a I said you want an usher. And he looked at me gormless
[June:] I know.
[Peggy:] and Angela said, an usher's to tell people where to sit. And I said you want a groomsman.
[June:] And that hasn't been talked about yet.
[Peggy:] What's a groomsman. I d well he didn't tell, what's a groomsman, but his face did. Cos he didn't know. I said, people that knock at the door and say, the taxi's ready the taxi man doesn't come and do it. Ooh. I said, Richard we're not pushing and nosing but we want doing right. We don't
[June:] I thought you'd mentioned that to him Arthur.
[Arthur:] Oh I have. No problem.
[Ernest:] to keep the children quiet.
[Peggy:] Well if there's no usher, I shall do it meself.
[June:] Yeah you could do that mum couldn't you.
[Peggy:] I can't be doing groomsman.
[Ernest:] Oh no. You might have to take over last minute.
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] Well no it can't Angela ask him somebody ask him, he can't just arrive and start doing things. It's all got to be done methodically and
[June:] be too nervous.
[Ernest:] Mm?
[June:] He'll be too nervous.
[Peggy:] There's nowt nervous on knocking on somebody's door and saying I Are you ready? Where's the nervo er well..
[June:] Oh no he knows and that he's still shy mum.
[Peggy:] Well there's nowt there's nowt to be shy ringing somebody's bell and all he'll be ringing, he'll be ringing here. And where else will he be ringing? Wh to fetch in s his folks are coming in their car which he says they are. Anyway I'm not bothered about their
[June:] But what if it's a taxi?
[Peggy:] folks so long as Angela and Arthur get there and
[June:] What if it's a taxi taxi man.
[Peggy:] Does he heck.
[Ernest:] No no. No he has a
[Peggy:] have you been married?
[Arthur:] no I mean if he's booked for the day. for the wedding.
[Peggy:] Does he heck.
[Ernest:] No no er no the groomsman
[Peggy:] .
[June:] No I don't remember much mum cos I was probably with me dad
[Peggy:] remember much about it either.
[June:] Well
[Ernest:] No it's the t the taxi driver never gets out.
[Peggy:] Does he heck..
[June:] Well tell you what Richard's gonna find out how many taxis there needs to be doesn't he.
[Peggy:] Of course he does.
[June:] whichever.
[Peggy:] He'll have to know who's coming but as I say, I'm not bothered so long as Arthur and Angela's there and and dad.
[Ernest:] Usually usually what they do, they have one taxi for the bridegroom's people and one for the bride's people.
[June:] Right.
[Ernest:] That's all it and
[June:] Right, so many journeys.
[Ernest:] And er y you sort of make your list of who has to go and where they've to come from, take it into the office, and they organize it. So that it works like clockwork.
[June:] Well they should Angela should be doing that lot shouldn't she.
[Peggy:] Well you don't know who's coming yet so they're can't do it can they?
[June:] Oh yes, they've got them all written down Well you can't can you till they reply.
[Ernest:] If you don't know, you can't do anything.
[June:] So it's best if they go off January and then they've got time to send them back haven't they.
[Ernest:] Oh yes, January at the latest.
[June:] And they can all come down.
[Peggy:] got to be done properly. could knock at somebody's door and say, Commander are you ready?
[June:] Well gonna have to....
[Peggy:] they don't know.
[June:] They're on about erm... perhaps she's got a new outfit..
[Peggy:] For her own for her own daughter's wedding.
[June:] Erm Angela's on about nipping from the army across into West Berk.
[Ernest:] If it's a nice day, it'll be much better.
[June:] Mm. what's if it's pouring down with rain?
[Peggy:] running taxi and it'll take her to reception.
[Ernest:] at the reception. there. He's a professional isn't he?
[June:] Who?
[Ernest:] The photographer.
[June:] 's supposed to be yeah.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] She said he was a professional didn't she Arthur?
[Arthur:] What's that?
[June:] .
[Arthur:] Yes.
[June:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] doing er layout photographs.
[June:] He's doing it as a wedding present. He's not er charging them anything like.
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] .
[June:] That's a I says, What can we give them as a wedding present? he says, I'm giving me daughter, that's a wedding present. Ee.
[Ernest:] .
[Arthur:] What?
[June:] You'll have to give him a present. Wedding present.
[Arthur:] No no
[June:] Great. I mean you're doing the cake for a wedding present.
[Ernest:] You're not for a wedding present or are you giving here a present?
[Arthur:] .
[Peggy:] . What?
[Ernest:] Didn't she?
[Peggy:] What the we the cake as a wedding present or are you giving her a present besides.
[June:] I've told her dad to sit because people might get the same thing.
[Ernest:] I was asking her if they had a a stand for a cake, she said yes.
[June:] Eh?
[Ernest:] A stand.
[June:] We haven't
[Ernest:] .
[Arthur:] A what?
[Ernest:] No you.
[June:] No us.
[Ernest:] No the... the hotel?
[June:] Ah.
[Arthur:] Have they?
[Ernest:] I should think they will have.
[June:] Well you'll have to find that out
[Ernest:] Yes they usually have.
[Peggy:] Well if they haven't we'll just have We didn't
[Ernest:] Well if it they haven't it doesn't matter I'll I'll just stand it on table.
[Peggy:] have a stand when we were married.
[Ernest:] I know we didn't.
[Peggy:] They didn't have a stand when they were married. It w you used your
[Ernest:] No but if they if they had one it er it serves.
[June:] It was.
[Peggy:] No it weren't
[Arthur:] No it weren't
[Ernest:] No it was on thick board.
[Arthur:] Oh yes.
[June:] Oh it was lovely wasn't it.
[Ernest:] And
[June:] Three tier and the basket.
[Arthur:] Have you still got your pillars.
[Ernest:] Oh I've still got me pillars yes. I've got the ones that tried to eat as well.
[Arthur:] Aha.
[June:] [LAUGHTER].
[Ernest:] Thought it were icing.
[June:] It were lovely that cake.
[Ernest:] I'm saying I have, where are they, do you know?
[Peggy:] I don't know where they were.
[Arthur:] I know where they were. Perhaps Nicodemus has helped hisself to 'em. They were in that top cupboard weren't they?
[Ernest:] They were in the top cupboard at one time yes.
[Peggy:] there..
[Ernest:] I wonder it'd cost to buy those today.
[Arthur:] ....
[Peggy:] It won't be worth get cake from you.
[Ernest:] Seven and six they were.
[June:] Aye.
[Peggy:] I say I don't know where she's gonna get cake done yet you can't ice a i ice a cake if you haven't got one.
[Arthur:] Have you seen mum,. cake stand, it's at the back, it's on a poster. It's a big three tier cake. And t'other week I were up there and I I was just asking woman just as a matter of interest love, I said, how much. You said, you're talking above a hundred pound there. Well over a hundred pounds. Yeah.
[Peggy:] Yes they are.
[Ernest:] Yeah. Well
[Arthur:] She says in fact, you're talking nearly two hundred pound.
[June:] One cake, two hundred pounds.
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[June:] Oh.
[Ernest:] Well we worked it out roughly, at about sixty pounds.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] To make it.
[Arthur:] To make it, yes.
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] That's without decorate and icings and what have you
[Ernest:] Oh no that's the that's cake complete
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] apart from the ornaments.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[June:] Yeah but you're her grandparents aren't you? I mean she wouldn't get it for that cheap would she.
[Peggy:] Oh would she heck.
[Arthur:] that one outside.
[Peggy:] When what do you call 'em were here, had to pay three three sixes are eighteen, that's a hundred and eighty pound, two hundred pound.
[Ernest:] A hundred and eigh A hundred and eighty pounds.
[Peggy:] It's be. And and and if er
[June:] .
[Peggy:] well he did one for Yes. They did one for somebody
[June:] Even less.
[Peggy:] and they were to charged them two hundred pounds.
[Ernest:] she charged them two hundred pound yeah.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] And that were only a one tier.
[June:] That cake that was in the paper, there was a cake in the paper, a big square one.
[Ernest:] Yes.
[June:] Hang on and it was three hundred pound.
[Ernest:] .
[June:] You know, square.
[Arthur:] I'm telling you, that one that's in Co-op where cakes are, where you get your cakes from.
[June:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] There's a picture of one there, I was asking woman t'other week, how much are they, she says nearly two hundred pounds.
[June:] Ee.
[Ernest:] [cough]
[Peggy:] But to me it's a waste of money, nobody wants any. I've told your dad, I says, make some concoction somehow or another, a wood a wood thing and ice it, that's all you want, just the icing to look beautiful.
[June:] Well I know one person as' ll eat it. He loves it. Don't he.
[Arthur:] Who?
[June:] Well who loves it?
[Ernest:] three tiers for three tier wedding cake for him.
[June:] No but who loves it?
[Arthur:] I don't know.
[June:] David.
[Arthur:] Oh aye.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] He loves it....
[Peggy:] like they used to be, I don't know what to do.
[Ernest:] You're not paying two hundred pound
[Peggy:] that's a certainty but I don't know what whether to make one or not. I don't know what to do..
[June:] I know one thing I'll.
[Ernest:] Well I've told you what it is darling.
[Peggy:] Mm?
[Ernest:] You're using.
[June:] I know one thing I'll not be eating at the buffet. That quiche stuff whatever it is. quiche but I don't like it.
[Ernest:] You'll have to cut down on your eggs.. I think that's the problem.
[Peggy:] I don't mind doing one in there
[Ernest:] Anyhow we'll we shall have to experiment before we start doing it. To get the recipe just right.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Ernest:] See the fruit's dropping at the moment.
[Arthur:] Aha.
[Peggy:] But in a when you harden it, you do it upside down. And then you'd be alright....
[Ernest:] upside down.
[Peggy:] But I don't know what to do because as I say, you don't want any, I don't want any, your dad doesn't want any.
[Ernest:] No but all the other guests might like it.
[Peggy:] June reckons she doesn't li June doesn't like it. You've can't make a a wedding cake with no cherries in. Well that's one, two, three, that's four of us d didn't, that's five, Richard doesn't that's six. So why bother?
[Arthur:] Doesn't he like it either?
[Peggy:] No.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Peggy:] Well piece of 'em but if you're only gonna be eating a piece it's not gonna be big.
[June:] What's that.
[Peggy:] Sixty sixty pounds for a cake.
[June:] .
[Arthur:] Educate this daughter, what's a vol au vent?
[June:] I am not thick
[Ernest:] A vol au vent?
[Peggy:] Well you know what vol au vents are.
[June:] I don't mum.
[Ernest:] Well it means wind in the sail. But it's a little
[Peggy:] .
[Ernest:] It's a little er
[June:] Just by somebody talking I don't know.
[Ernest:] pastry. It's puff pastry round puff pastry. And you scoop the middle out and you fill it with whatever
[Peggy:] Prawns or
[June:] Oh well
[Ernest:] Salad or
[June:] Well.
[Ernest:] Some people put jam on them.
[June:] if somebody said that to me like dad's just explained, I'd know.
[Arthur:] Well you know, you've seen them.
[June:] posh names.
[Peggy:] in a lot of.
[June:] No. forgotten I think.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] Can I borrow this. I borrowed this one last time.
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] .... Vol au vents are like pastry.
[Arthur:] like little cases aren't they.
[Ernest:] Mm. Little cases yeah.
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Ernest:] You can buy them ready made.
[Peggy:] But I'm saying, you don't want any cake, I don't want any, Arthur doesn't want any, dad doesn't want any, Angela doesn't. Oh er what else, who else is there.
[June:] I like wedding cake.
[Peggy:] But do you heck, you don't like you said you don't like it.
[June:] I do like wedding cake but the only thing I don't like in some cakes is ch
[Peggy:] But you don't like them cherries.
[June:] the peel.
[Peggy:] No you don't put peel in but you say you don't like cherries
[June:] Oh I don't like glace [pronounced glaice] cherries no.
[Peggy:] Well you can't make a wedding cake without glace cherries.
[June:] No but you can pull them out can't you.
[Peggy:] Oh yes I'm gonna eighty pound for a cake for folk to put cherries out. say make a wood'un and ice it. And then they'll all have a shock when they don't get a piece. Or have a plain one.
[Ernest:] No you can't ice a plain one.
[Arthur:] You can't ice a plain sponge mum no can you. I mean that er
[Peggy:] A big one. at thing that was alright. It was firm. There were a recipe in for Queen's for Queen Mother's birthday cake. But it was plain.
[Ernest:] Oh the Queen Queen Mother's birthday cake. Aye that was a plain one, she must
[Peggy:] And you could put some
[Ernest:] she mustn't like fruit.
[Peggy:] And there again, she doesn't like butter-cream so w
[Ernest:] No.
[Peggy:] what do you Well it'd be unique not to have a wedding cake wouldn't it.
[Ernest:] But you can't er
[Peggy:] I'd rather have the money. [LAUGHTER]
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ernest:] You can't er fresh cream.
[Peggy:] There's really a lot of people who don't bother about wedding cakes. It's all a farce. there to see,
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] done on a wood wood piece, they wouldn't bother whether they got any or not.
[June:] No she seems to be looking forward to
[Peggy:] Well she wa she's not looking forward to cake, she's she's looking forward to the beauty of seeing it isn't she?
[Arthur:] Yeah.
[June:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] Because er while I've had wedding cake from people and and they give you a little bit and I've said to you haven't I, well I wouldn't have bothered giving anybody this. But by when I've just had a little crumb I've said they can have the rest back. It's horrible isn't it.
[June:] Mm.
[Peggy:] . It's like sawdust.
[Ernest:] yesterday I haven't for four for five years.
[Arthur:] Oh.
[Ernest:] They're getting married next year but they're not having any children for three years.
[Arthur:] Oh no.
[Peggy:] They won't have any at all if if they're sensible. But she doesn't want to say that she's not having any for five year. Cos she'll look silly if she's having one in nine months.
[Ernest:] Has she told you about Mandy?
[Peggy:] Yeah.
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Peggy:] like M like Molly John's wife, she weren't having any and then she had one and she she weren't having a any more and then another
[Arthur:] Aye last night Well I'm gonna tell you. Last night I j well David come round in afternoon and he l he'd got some tapes. So he says will you go and pick 'em up dad. So I says, aye I mean fair enough. So this one, wait at bus, she says. Well I'd just got there, it was just between quarter past and ten past and twelve were there. Well I missed it. So I'm stood standing it were twenty five to to seven before I m before I left Dock. I got five hundred, gets up to top of 's stepped off, who should be at bus stop, our Angela.
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Arthur:] What you doing here? Oh there's no meeting, I'm going up to Mandy's. Oh I says, right fair enough.
[June:] No they.
[Arthur:] and walked off. Anyway she's shouting away, Dad dad dad. So I says, what? She says, hang on, I said why? I'll come with you, I said, I thought you were away to Mandy's. No I'll come with you, so she wents into town with me. And this were what would it be, about twenty to seven.
[Ernest:] . Yes it would be something like that.
[Arthur:] Yeah, so I said, I thought you were going to Mandy's. I said, anyway I said, I thought you'd fallen out with Mandy. Oh yeah, she says, but erm w w
[June:] I've no sympathy.
[Arthur:] we're back friends. I says, Aye, I says, well you needn't bother fetching her to our house. to do with you. Aye, she says
[June:] she were doing. Well she can't be much cop if she'd open her legs to a first date to a Dutch s sailor. That's all I've got to say.
[Arthur:] So anyway she er she got in the house and she never went out again
[Peggy:] Did she not go then?
[Arthur:] No.
[Peggy:] Oh well I said to her
[June:] She said she'll see you tonight at.
[Peggy:] I said to her, Angela I said, don't you pushing your nose in asking you to adopt it. And you'll be saying yeah. No I mean she knows right from wrong she's no business to have one there has she.
[Arthur:] Well I knew where she were heading that night that day she came to our house.
[Peggy:] I mean she's only seventeen.
[Arthur:] And she were on her about and sailors and what have you and I thought, aye, I'll know where you'll end up lady and she has.
[Peggy:] I've no sympathy.
[June:] no.
[Arthur:] No.
[Peggy:] No sympathy for anybody like that, they know what they're doing. They're not much cop when they can open their legs like that. And I really got angry with our Angela. I said, I don't know what you're bothering for. I said by heck you've some good friends you have. I lost me rag didn't I.
[Arthur:] Well I says to her, the way she slagged you off, I said, nowt to do with you. Ah well she says, I'm not like that dad, I can't do that to her. Well please yourself
[Peggy:] that's vicarious that's it is
[Ernest:] Yeah.
[Peggy:] But you see, as I I said to her I said, no Angela it's alright is that I said, but I said
[Ernest:] No we tried to talk her out of.
[Peggy:] she had no business to do it, she knew what she were doing and they had no business to do it. It's like abortion. Nobody saying oh what have I to do if I want an abortion. You don't have to have an abortion, there shouldn't be one there to have an abortion for should there.
[June:] No.
[Arthur:] No.
[Peggy:] Anyway.
[Ernest:] get on her high horse over abortion.
[Arthur:] Oh aye.
[Ernest:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] I mean be thankful she's not like that.
[June:] I don't like abortions but to me it depends... on the circumstances. Like an ordinary married woman or something like that, if it's a matter of life and death.
[Peggy:] No
[June:] Cos there are cases aren't there where a
[Peggy:] like that and the think they're being clever. Well let them get on with it. But if there weren't any money for 'em. One parent families, there shouldn't be any one parent families....
[June:] .
[Arthur:] Yes.
[Peggy:] .
[June:] No.
[Peggy:] Well alright then....
[June:] It won'be long before it finishes it's only
[Peggy:] Ee I tell you what Get a get a paper and write what you say most. I said what would be. First thing in the morning you say, Ooh, don't you? When you're getting slowly getting out of bed. Ooh and then you say, Oh dear oh dear. [LAUGHTER] Ooh oh dearie me.
[June:] And then I stand by his bed trying to crack me ankles you know I'm going
[Peggy:] Oh dear.
[June:] on the wall with.
[Arthur:] She knows.
[June:] And then I'm hobbling along into the bathroom.
[Peggy:] oh oh dear. [LAUGHTER] oh yes. Aye yet.
[June:] I should get a cup of tea now shouldn't I. It's usually me that does it. now.
[Ernest:] Aye.
[Peggy:] You get your Arthur first before you start
[Ernest:] cup of tea every morning.
[June:] He does. Don't you.
[Arthur:] No.
[June:] Yes you do. how he can sit there and say no.
[Peggy:] Get your teas made
[June:] he doesn't get tea he gets coffee he likes coffee.
[Peggy:] Well you can put coffee in.
[June:] And then er
[Peggy:] Just the same.
[June:] I give him coffee. And then.
[Arthur:] Oh it got kicked into touch did that cos it too loud.
[June:] Well.
[Arthur:] . That goblin.
[Ernest:] The goblin
[Peggy:] when it's ready.
[Arthur:] No it buzzes while it's on.
[Peggy:] Does it heck. Well not till it starts to do.
[Arthur:] going round when its going round. getting rid of this thing I'm not having this.
[Peggy:] Does it heck. wrong with it then.
[June:] I gave it to Angela.
[Peggy:] Well there's something wrong with it them till it's running out.
[Ernest:] And then it switches off.
[June:] She says it's a start she say, our teasmade and our other coffee maker with the mug.
[Peggy:] Mm. Well. And she's a she's a
[Ernest:] Jug kettle.
[Peggy:] jug kettle.
[June:] Aye, she thought she hadn't got it, I says Angela I'm sure it's I'm sure your nan's got a kettle for you.
[Peggy:] Of course she has.
[June:] And er and she's still got that crystal dish.
[Peggy:] Aye and Auntie Auntie Elsie's got er She said she gave me three mugs
[Arthur:] Mm.
[Peggy:] and four. So she says, er one's for Angela and one's for you. So I I said, right. Oh this.
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] .
[Ernest:] .
[Peggy:] And er well she gave us some towels. And she gave us these so I said, well I've given her towels, wait and give it her for next. Whatever comes on.. So she says, Right well do as you like, she says, er... but there's a four and there's a three, I couldn't get two fours, so I said right. So I thought, well if they get three, that's better than none, but I'll keep the four cos there's always somebody coming here you know. And er but then I thought, no I'll give her the four. But I I'd said to Angela there were some a while back but I'd not sh shown them her. So I says, oh I says, saying what they were and she said, oh, she said, and I've got some mugs Auntie Elsie bought you and a bit after and she said, she said, there's them four mugs for Angela. as if I was stealing a mug you know. [LAUGHTER] I could have cracked her. [] But oh she's as excited as anybody isn't she. She says she has a carrier like a like a a Christmas parcel won't it. She's getting a a carrier and putting things in for her.
[June:] [LAUGHTER]
[Peggy:] you don't think you want a dishcloth and you don't think you want a pan scrubber, you don't think you want which you don't
[June:] I told her to get
[Peggy:] But she said
[June:] set of saucepans.
[Peggy:] I mean er what else is there, oh don't just think about she says.
[June:] . You're always afraid that somebody buys the same presents.
[Peggy:] Well what's it matter, they don't eat anything.
[Ernest:] Well we told her yesterday