[James:] That'll be forty five in a
[Patricia:] That's a good idea
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] aha
[James:] erm, if you leave that on there
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] should nee stand now
[Patricia:] I should imagine it should stand normally, just like
[James:] er
[Patricia:] anything else
[James:] I'll just leave it on here there
[Patricia:] there you are
[James:] see, but if ya, er put it on your person she says, you daren't put it near your throat because
[Patricia:] No cos, oh yeah
[James:] the sound
[Patricia:] yeah if
[James:] you are
[Patricia:] if I on
[James:] aye
[Patricia:] and
[James:] so
[Patricia:] put it anywhere near here
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] I should imagine
[James:] mm, mm... but er [sniff] in the morning I surprise because when I knock your door and I got up early, I got up at half past six cos
[Patricia:] Mm
[James:] quarter past nine cos er... me and Billy wanted to get our oil into a,
[Patricia:] Aha, aha, aha
[James:] so he says Covent Garden doing a, quarter past nine, so I says oh aye I'll be up ready
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] so when I got up half past six... and I got shaved now at last, gonna go and get ready and pull the curtains back, oh what a of rain, I says oh I says
[Patricia:] I've never seen such worse terrible, absolutely terrible
[James:] I says I daren't fancy going out in this... I went upstairs and er, it's always the same innit? I got upstairs and the phone ring I says oh I says that's gotta be Warren, it couldn't be anybody else, so when I come down... I went off like, well I tell ya I can't do it, so I knew it was so I picked up the wrong she says oh I'm just ringing because... you can see what the weather is she says and you couldn't go and do a day in erm, with your
[Patricia:] True, true
[James:] you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] so, so she says I'm gonna go down to Presto, Billy's gone to fetch Wally's pay slip
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and he meet me at Presto and we'll get your stuff and we'll get our stuff out the same time erm
[Patricia:] That's just what you will dreading us speak
[James:] Aye
[Patricia:] about don't you?
[James:] so he says we're gonna do in dirty weather
[Patricia:] Oh what you do in the cold, oh that was grand
[James:] oh aye, oh he's says oh
[Patricia:] aha, ya who, well that was fine
[James:] so she says I'll be quarter past nine and you know by er you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm yeah
[James:] and just turned nine, knock on the door, opened the door, gee and I said the umbrella with the rain and the wind blowing, she says there's more of this, it's not like that
[Patricia:] No it can be one of, like one of those aye
[James:] you know with the squashed
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] little
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] well when I went to get pulled him inside it isn't, it isn't
[Patricia:] ah yes
[James:] love and just pulled her along
[Patricia:] it's a waste of time taking an umbrella anyway
[James:] Aye, so she says I don't think I'll bother I just put it in a bargain
[Patricia:] mm, mm, mm, mm
[James:] and er, anyway... she got me walking out and she says er, see you when I come back, that was er... about twenty past... that was twenty past eleven wasn't it? Came back door, I opened the door and er he had a big holdall you know
[Patricia:] Ah great
[James:] right on top of the
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] all the, er, my stuff
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] although I didn't get many sixteen and er... he was hovering there, I says well what's happened? Oh he says oh me knee's gone and he and he with his trouble oh, he was soaking and she was soaking, they come in, she had er trolley and he had er
[Patricia:] Bag
[James:] that big holdall full of er
[Patricia:] mm
[James:] full of stuff, and er she had the trolley and two er plastic bags you know those
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] plastic bags and he had a plastic bag and that when and she had the trolley with all that in, so well loaded up, you know
[Patricia:] I can imagine
[James:] and er, anyway he hobbled in, oh he said, me knee, hmm, anyway sat with him and had a cup of tea, she didn't have nothing to drink like and er, anyway... we had our tea and he hobbled in to the front room, and er... and er, she says well you bugger you are, er batter mixture up for ya
[Patricia:] Oh for the Yorkshire pudding?
[James:] Aye and you forget the, er Carnation Milk for ya, fruit er
[Patricia:] Mm, mm
[James:] and er... s got a nice bit of cheese and er plastic
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] cos have cheese on the you know er, on the cool counter you know that's how they sell it
[Patricia:] oh yes
[James:] I've tried every cheese they've got on here and there's nay taste whatsoever
[Patricia:] see, that's it
[James:] the Red
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] er Red er Leicester, I got a lump last and there was no taste at all and on the second day, we not having a proper fridge just er, a a fridge you know keeping it in store
[Patricia:] aye yes, that's when you miss that fridge
[James:] the cheese just went dark brown
[Patricia:] well did
[James:] so I says the only thing that'll be is to er toast cheese on toast
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] you know
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] cos I didn't fancy eating it like that and er she goes, I told her give us a piece of some of that wrapping you know
[Patricia:] yes
[James:] with the hard cheese, sealed with the plastic
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] so there's a nice bit there, so ninety five or ninety six pence
[Patricia:] mm
[James:] you know this is so... she says oh I'll probably see ya, er one night she was er cutting all the up for the rest of the week like, she said do you want a bet on the... the big race this Saturday? Oh I said ooh I can't ee fancy nowt you know, the weather and the... he said well if you just want one on, have a want, and, I said well I didn't wanna put you, you know you know go and put the bets on it
[Patricia:] That's true
[James:] so I said well I wanted to put one on it oh er
[Patricia:] ah yes but it was waiting for him to see you
[James:] and with me not
[Patricia:] ah
[James:] and he would me have one and you know
[Patricia:] that's it, yeah
[James:] ah you know I thought to myself oh
[Patricia:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] I should have a bet to
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] I might phone him in the morning
[Patricia:] just ask him
[James:] before he comes along and er... ask er to put me one on and I can give him the money in the bet,
[Patricia:] good thinking
[James:] cos he goes about quarter to twelve
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] cos I'd hate to think she wasn't having that little flutter
[Patricia:] yet you probably put her off for putting the bet on cos you were
[James:] Me, er no what?
[Patricia:] putting it on, that's true
[James:] And er so I said oh aye, I said I want, it's only er fifty P a quid on a, a new
[Patricia:] oh well that's neither here nor there so treating
[James:] last year I should of had that winner, I picked a and it won
[Patricia:] oh yeah, [LAUGHTER]
[James:] it won the race at nine to one, I could of had it, you know, it's in the race this year
[Patricia:] well it's not much is it a pound?
[James:] you cannae fancy it this year, you know
[Patricia:] You know
[James:] I couldn't fancy it this year, you know, but er
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] apart from Red Rum you very rarely get a horse that'll win a two
[Patricia:] that'll hold
[James:] two year you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] in a trot... but er I might just have this and none of them would win, I've only, I would only praise them guessed up or that way or
[Patricia:] can imagine, yes I can well imagine yeah
[James:] it was, you know, when, when she says, we are, we're got to do any, he didn't to
[Patricia:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] oh I says you know... I was hoping she was gonna, you know
[Patricia:] aha mm, mm, oh that was good of them then, mm
[James:] sure you know er gotta give praise where it's due you know
[Patricia:] oh yes you've gotta actually I think they've been very good
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] I mean er considering
[James:] and
[Patricia:] they're not really any
[James:] no
[Patricia:] relation to you
[James:] no
[Patricia:] I mean
[James:] and she didn't take any money
[Patricia:] She didn't?
[James:] No, I check the
[Patricia:] Aha
[James:] and
[Patricia:] mm, mm, oh well it er and maybe the penny's dropped
[James:] Well maybe well, with er Billy
[Patricia:] ah that's sort of
[James:] with him being you know
[Patricia:] it's, probably he doesn't know anything about it
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] you see
[James:] so
[Patricia:] oh well that was good, I'm, I just thought though yesterday when I got up and I've seen the weather, good grief Jimmy's never gonna go out in this like you know
[James:] Well I open the cor when I look I says oh dear you can't do er in this oh it was lashing, the rain was lashing against the window
[Patricia:] Yeah, mm, mm well you cannae put an umbrella up or anything
[James:] No you can't
[Patricia:] cos er, it's, it's just a waste of time
[James:] I didn't fancy getting soaked, not after getting, just getting over the flu
[Patricia:] With you just getting rid of the flu, hardly...
[James:] I just don't seem to be quite right yet though
[Patricia:] can it there's
[James:] so
[Patricia:] people in the hairdressers this morning was
[James:] I'd been up
[Patricia:] you know I couldn't get rid of it
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] so
[James:] there's four men who've had a dull headache and they cannot er you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm...
[James:] you just cannot seem to get it out of your
[Patricia:] that's what I said
[James:] system you know, it's so, it's still hanging around in ya
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] you know, er, I don't think salt and food help
[Patricia:] oh well it doesn't does it?
[James:] either what you do, now what you do
[Patricia:] This is the thing
[James:] you do not what's been wrong, what's been wrong
[Patricia:] exactly
[James:] so I mean er, you know...
[Patricia:] because let's face it, what suits one doesn't always suit another
[James:] No
[Patricia:] I mean I could say well I could go on a diet, but, er and keep on this sort of thing like Margaret does you know
[James:] Yeah
[Patricia:] but, erm, you see the point is that you're not, what suits one doesn't suit another
[James:] no... another thing an'all... we are sat here, you know, in the corner near the fire
[Patricia:] Aha
[James:] I'm sure I'm getting a lot of fumes coming back out er
[Patricia:] you said that a couple of weeks ago
[James:] I mean... yesterday after I had me dinner I dropped off to sleep for a couple of hours cos
[Patricia:] that could cause feeling
[James:] and you're awake now
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] Last night... I was sitting er what was I watching?... Forget what was on now
[Patricia:] It was that murder mystery thing on last night wasn't it? Er, that was interesting that, that I, I liked that, him good that
[James:] Oh, I missed it, I knew there was something, that's when I fell asleep
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] I fell asleep just after eight o'clock and I was er, well after ten when I woke up
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and I was saying to myself, why should I be dropping off to sleep like this, it's gotta be fumes you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] like Jimmy next door, he's always dropping off and he got a vent put in at the bottom of his door, they took the pipe out and behind... you had a big open
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] which should of been bricked right the way in
[Patricia:] that one's got a brick opening like that, that isn't bricked in
[James:] No, well that's supposed to be bricked right in, so it doesn't allow the fumes to accumulate inside
[Patricia:] it's it's a good size as well
[James:] Yeah
[Patricia:] that size
[James:] and that's what they've done, all then that done ripped it
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] they clamped a big label on, well they didn't clamp one on ours so I take it was
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] supposed to be alright
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] but over the years you sit there and ya... you know
[Patricia:] well it must be the fumes
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] and what this thing up... what's that up there?
[James:] in the summer it doesn't happen. Well that's supposed to be a vent
[Patricia:] Er, that's the vent is it?
[James:] it carried the fumes away
[Patricia:] Oh I see
[James:] any surplus fumes around
[Patricia:] aha, have, have you got one like that?
[James:] Oh aye but when the bloke went next door to Jimmy's, he, he said where's your vent and Jimmy says there it is up there, ah, and he got up there
[Patricia:] I thought
[James:] he says I see you've got a towel up there
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] regarding a fire it's no good whatsoever, he says your trouble you're not getting a draught from your
[Patricia:] yeah, aha
[James:] from your front door coming through and carrying the fumes away
[Patricia:] cos it'd have to be circulating around wouldn't it?
[James:] this part of the fire, he says, Jimmy says well I'll put a label on it then, well why don't ya? You're supposed to break a
[Patricia:] well that's commonsense
[James:] he said well that's the trouble you could break the
[Patricia:] I would say that's dangerous
[James:] then he says you want a vent in the bottom of your door
[Patricia:] Door aye, erm
[James:] so when, when they came the three of them
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] Ginger
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] he had a lot to say and Jimmy lost his temper with him, you know, and he said look,
[Patricia:] I'm not surprised yeah, mm, mm
[James:] forget it says
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] on your way he says, I'll get the job done, pay for it and I'll phone you up and you'll have to pay me
[Patricia:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] oh, ee
[Patricia:] oh that'll be a different kettle of fish
[James:] and er
[Patricia:] wouldn't it?
[James:] Hmm, he's wife says, he says, ooh, er, she was when he, went in the back says I'll be honest, yeah he says you're minding the right, ooh he says er they wanna get erm you know and
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] so he went back and he says er, oh he says er... he says oh dear like, he says well carry on he says... I'll have to take the door off, so he says can you give a hand to hold it, cos he had to cut er... this er like and all grown at the bottom of the door you know with
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] six inch
[Patricia:] put one of them metal things in
[James:] and you put a grid on each side like a plastic grid, you know
[Patricia:] oh yeah, mm, mm I know
[James:] and there was only these er little screws, more like a nail with a, a little spiral on
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and what you doing, you didn't screw them in you just break them in
[Patricia:] oh yeah
[James:] and the spiral grips the wood you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] so he says I tell he says, er, he put the card up where the machine is, which he bore a hole in, I've got one of them mach er cutters, you know, a, a saw with a little braid on
[Patricia:] oh yeah
[James:] and you can cut all different shapes you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm mm, mm
[James:] and he, when you drill a hole in the corner... each corner and he just put it on he just oh it were real lovely and it was as simple as that
[Patricia:] ah yes yes, yeah, aha
[James:] he didn't clear, clear the hole or nowt he didn't
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] when he put the grid in that, that caused
[Patricia:] I see
[James:] you know, took an hour down and he just got that done, but I, I've meant to ask him if those have made any difference, you know, having done in
[Patricia:] yes
[James:] the, griding that brick in
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] but er, that is the trouble, half of these are not been put in properly and the fumes are coming back over
[Patricia:] well it, it could cause the many a couldn't it?
[James:] and that's, I'm sure I put over the years
[Patricia:] Mm
[James:] where you're sitting in and she used to nod away
[Patricia:] I know she used to say that
[James:] aye, and er, when you wake up ooh you're your throat's pouring, you're hot you've gotta get up
[Patricia:] Stands to reason doesn't it?
[James:] and stand at the back
[Patricia:] That's right
[James:] the, you know to cool off... what I do know before time, I woke up... er... phew the you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and lovely, I just woke up, er a couple of minutes before then the insurance lad come... cos when I only, he should of come yesterday and I waited in but I couldn't, you know when I opened the door I says... I, I he says, you know
[Patricia:] aha, mm, mm
[James:] where you been, I says where you been, aye he says aye he says, my fault he says I didn't get round did I? So, this tiler were there with that you know, I says well why, you know... and er... I went back in and I turned the fire off altogether
[Patricia:] Well it's sensible cos it's certainly
[James:] cos it wasn't, it wasn't that cold you know in the room, so I says well I, I wanna create more fumes, which one am I locking up?
[Patricia:] it seems fairly warm I still think it's nice and warm
[James:] Well you don't get much draught cos the fr well the front door see that's the door here
[Patricia:] yeah, mm, mm
[James:] you come in our front door there, that was a passage, when you get a draught from the front door, it passes this door and it goes straight to the back, down the stairs and back
[Patricia:] it's what you call straight through to the very end of the mm, mm
[James:] you see
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] door, one door to another door
[Patricia:] that's right
[James:] you get a straight through draught, from the front door through the passage, then it doesn't into here
[Patricia:] not do
[James:] and then it goes through to the back, now his, although it looks
[Patricia:] similar
[James:] the same as our house... when you open the door here
[Patricia:] mm
[James:] his front door, the same, you've got er the stairs going up there
[Patricia:] mm
[James:] but, when you go into the passage... his door, he's got the door into the front room, same as ours, on the left, but when you get into the bottom of the passage, there's a brick wall in front of ya, and it comes round and his door to the back dining room is on this side here
[Patricia:] oh yeah, mm
[James:] so he doesn't get a straight through draught like me
[Patricia:] no you not do
[James:] by having that wall at the bottom
[Patricia:] that's right of course
[James:] the draught always follows where there a, you know, two doors
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] two windows open
[Patricia:] that's true...
[James:] but when ya, when you stand at the front door and er there's a blower breeze and it's cold, if you put your hand round the door like that, you can feel a draught, you can feel it colder than the you know and the letter box, the draught... but if you take that and put a curtain up, it'll keep the cold out, you've stopped the draught so you're gonna win
[Patricia:] The draught from that's, yeah so you're not sure whether you're doing the right thing or not
[James:] Yeah so you know
[Patricia:] so it's true mm, mm
[James:] I said I dunno what to do for the best so, I just leave things the way they are and er hopefully that er you get some warm days where you needn't have the fire on, so you don't have fumes you know
[Patricia:] true mm, mm
[James:] if
[Patricia:] well you're better again Jim, you've got the fire er so you put the fire, you put the fire off, well this central heating comes from the back of that fire doesn't it, so if you've got the central heating on and you've got it on full
[James:] Aye
[Patricia:] blast for the water, won't you get the fumes just the same as what you do from the fire?
[James:] No, because because the fire at the back is... actually at the bottom of the chimney
[Patricia:] Ah I see yeah, yeah
[James:] if this here is in the room innit?
[Patricia:] mm, that's right
[James:] So you'll have fumes
[Patricia:] of course it is that's right and so, where the fumes from the central heating
[James:] coming back through the side here
[Patricia:] go? By the side here
[James:] They got your central heating for your water
[Patricia:] Yeah
[James:] in, behind the wall there
[Patricia:] yes of course that's right and that's in the front
[James:] you know the fuse
[Patricia:] it's come
[James:] oh your fuse is all at the back the
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] pull it up the chimney
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] now that's the difference
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] I mean
[Patricia:] that's right
[James:] you can
[Patricia:] it's er coming into the room isn't it?
[James:] you can tell er what a draught is like in that room, I shall tell you when comes
[Patricia:] Mm, mm
[James:] and they'll be here half an hour or three quarters of an hour, he smoked four cigarettes, now it takes all day and all night to get rid of them fumes of his cigarettes
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] they travel up the stairs... your, you knew this room and when, with being in it all the time you, you know you, your nose gets
[Patricia:] mm, yeah
[James:] well if you went out the back for ten minutes
[Patricia:] and it's strong
[James:] and you come back, er and you come back in here you would smell it again
[Patricia:] that's right, of course you would, mm, mm
[James:] and that's how you can tell there's no draught because the smoke can't go out anywhere
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] it's trapped, I mean I, I open me front... erm front window
[Patricia:] aye, yes
[James:] and I opened up back
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] two of the, two of the little window
[Patricia:] yes
[James:] and I left the door open here
[Patricia:] mm, mm that's the only way you can get
[James:] to try and drive
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] but even, it took all day to er, to get a
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] there was still that... little smell of that, it's
[Patricia:] yes
[James:] got a funny smell that smoke you know
[Patricia:] I hate the smell of it
[James:] er, er the cigarette, tobacco an'all
[Patricia:] I hate the smell of cigarettes since I've packed in smoking I cannot stand it
[James:] it's got a funny
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] smell now, but er I can't understand [LAUGHTER] how [] the war and the would cigarettes years ago, you know, and they start that
[Patricia:] yeah, yeah
[James:] get it and er they've brought the full and then they say if you must smoke, smoke then with a filter tip one and that
[Patricia:] that's right
[James:] will half, chop of the nicotine and whatever you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] just, but that wasn't good enough... the bloke that wrote in he says oh later on, er even the filter is no good
[Patricia:] that's right cos, yeah, the if you take
[James:] you'll still get cancer
[Patricia:] er the cigarettes to bits that's black inside
[James:] yeah you'll still get it to you, you'll still get cancer with it cos er, it's coming through and you're still getting it on your chest
[Patricia:] mm
[James:] well you cannot win
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] no... if I remember rightly, during the war when the only cigarette that had the filter and it wasn't a filter, oh it was a
[Patricia:] You'd have to suck yes, that's right
[James:] no, it wasn't a filter, all it was on the end of a cigarette what you put in your mouth, it was a cork tip, but there was no filter, no filter inside it, the tobacco come right to the end
[Patricia:] that's right
[James:] all that cork tip was for was to stop it on your lips
[Patricia:] stop it sticking to your lips yeah that's right, [LAUGHTER]
[James:] cos you know er you know
[Patricia:] yes, that's right I think it were the first ones to come out
[James:] really, yeah er, er introduced er later on, but the one filter all it was, was a cork tip
[Patricia:] yeah, mm, mm
[James:] you know
[Patricia:] yes that's right
[James:] I'm sure have it, as time's getting on the... they seemed to be introducing more... health things in... I think that now that, tobacco er vegetables all the likes of that... is different now what it was forty, fifty years ago
[Patricia:] Oh
[James:] because they're treating all these things that we are eating
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] drinking
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] er what people smoking and treating 'em all with these new chemicals and that's what's doing you the harm
[Patricia:] aye of course it is
[James:] er I mean we smoked before the war
[Patricia:] of course I mean that is
[James:] there was me why now?
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] why are people being spoke it's because they know at the end of the day it's what they're bombarding all these things what we are
[Patricia:] it's a shame mm, mm
[James:] taking into our bodies with and that's what's causing all the trouble
[Patricia:] you see it all stands to reason...
[James:] you know last week when I said that Margaret had food... you know what it was?
[Patricia:] Could of been allergic to something was she?...
[James:] She'd had some tomatoes and er she never washes them all she don't do that
[Patricia:] Oh yeah, aye, aha
[James:] and... it was later on when she'd had a couple of tomatoes.... and she couldn't realize how she come out in these she went to the doctor and he says well you must be allergic to summat
[Patricia:] mm
[James:] and she couldn't think what it was and she got a as well, she says er... have you eaten any fruit or tomatoes or any, oh she said tomatoes she says did you wash them? She says no, I just, you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] she said well it happened to me, it's the chemicals on the skin of the fruit and the tomatoes, that's what brought your spots on... and after a couple of days or whatever they went away.
[Patricia:] mm, yeah
[James:] Aye
[Patricia:] well look at some of the apples you were getting round about Christmas, they had brought them in, they had polished them and put that spray on to make them look shiny
[James:] yeah yeah
[Patricia:] that wax, and erm, I mean they were, they'd brought them in before Christmas so that they could sell 'em
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] if they'd keep for Christmas that's why they charged so much for them, those Mackintosh reds and that, and I mean it told you then in one of those magazines that were, John was reading that he said make sure that you wash those apples before you eat them....
[James:] Where has those tomatoes gone, if you remember them, they used to be big ones an'all they were
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] a deep red
[Patricia:] they were nice, they
[James:] and the skin you just had to press the skin and, and the oh it was all, you know you could just
[Patricia:] eat it
[James:] eat it just the way it was
[Patricia:] oh
[James:] with a bit of salt
[Patricia:] but they're not like that now
[James:] what's hap the tomatoes you can't, the tomatoes you can't, they're hard
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] you cut it through with a knife
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and underneath the skin it's got another, like a skin and neither would
[Patricia:] exactly
[James:] what's happening with the tomatoes is that tomatoes where they gone?
[Patricia:] mm, mm, mm, mm I cannot er, the stuff's not the same as it used to be nowhere near
[James:] you see it's got no, they're telling you this and telling you that, it's them that's doing this but they're creating more food, food by, to create more food they're bombarding all your food with chemicals you know all sorts you know
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] the food and it's not doing you any good
[Patricia:] of course it's not... of course
[James:] I mean you cannae go and do, know that a, a decent er banana, apple
[Patricia:] there's nothing in the taste
[James:] what's happened to all the, the stuff in, you know you could pick them up and... just eat them straight away
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] and you know you cannot er... I mean er [clears throat] it's having to
[Patricia:] of course it is, apparently say what they like about the Green Party but at least that's one thing they're doing something
[James:] I mean something major
[Patricia:] but they are cos they can't
[James:] why don't they just let the stuff grow naturally?
[Patricia:] mm, mm mm, mm...
[James:] I mean that, that have to hold top and bottom, you put something in the soil and it gets all its nourishment in the soil and that
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and it grown and that's it, no, they've gotta bombard it with chemicals and all sorts, they want more and more... but what's the good of producing more and more, but all these people all over the world dying of hunger
[Patricia:] of course
[James:] and what happened
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] they produce more and more and there's more then wasted and thrown in the bin and it's on the
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] on er, these of bruised fruit
[Patricia:] oh that's true
[James:] and nobody's getting it and, and the worst war shall why, why me water, gonna waste water
[Patricia:] that's a fact
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] that's true...
[James:] plus the price of it, [LAUGHTER] I mean, you know []
[Patricia:] but you know that er our Susan wanted to go down to erm, get her hair done this morning so... erm I says to her come up here, we'll get a taxi from here we'll go down the hairdressers and shall permission to to collect our money, so... we got a taxi from here down... to erm... what they call that street where er that erm... oh dear me Street
[James:] Aye so you went with them
[Patricia:] so you have to aha
[James:] oh
[Patricia:] so you had to go right round and come down the mud down
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] Street that was er
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] that was cut off there anyway to cut a long story short when we got down there I says to him what's the damage? And he says erm... er, one pound eighty and I says to him what? He says one pound eighty, er... paid him like and erm, you could of a tip
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] I tell ya, so I think we got out, we got our hair done and she wanted to go down to the mission so the hairdresser phoned a different taxi, we have this one up here, he took her down from there to the mission, cos he went down the back ways, you know,
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] which was quicker, took her down to the mission, she stayed in the car till I went up to the mission to get our money signed for our money and come out and er
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] he brought us straight back here, so we got to the door, I says well how much did he say? Cos I got out and opened the door
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] she says three pound fifty, I says what? She says three pound fifty she says that was from taking us down from there and sitting waiting, well I mean I was only in about, well I wasn't in five minutes
[James:] So you paid one eighty to?
[Patricia:] three pound, aha
[James:] And you paid three fifty from, you know down and back up here?
[Patricia:] aha
[James:] Yeah well, well, well from here to Street it's what... four hundred yards?
[Patricia:] mm, mm, mm, mm
[James:] Four, four
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] hundred and fifty yards
[Patricia:] so it just shows you, it started off at one pound twenty on the meter that was
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] when we first went down
[James:] yes
[Patricia:] and I, I mean Jimmy it was only last Friday I went down to have me hair done and I walked from the hairdressers down to Street to get the wallpaper
[James:] yeah, mm, mm
[Patricia:] erm, so I couldn't carry the wallpaper so the lass says well you can't carry it, she says I'll phone you a taxi, I says okay, so she phoned this, she says any, any particular one, I says I'll have that one beside us like so phoned association, they'll be erm, you, you know call up and they came and er pick me up and brought us back with the paper, he charged one pound twenty and I'm saying to myself one pound twenty, that's a damn disgrace, by hell I'll not get that taxi again
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] but you see they must of gone up
[James:] oh they went up last year, er, I just forget now, so much on the mile er
[Patricia:] but I mean you cannot tell me that, that
[James:] I can't remember what the, what actually went up, but er... you know
[Patricia:] that's disgraceful that... yeah and so that was from erm Street down to the and down the back so it wouldn't take, didn't take him a couple of minutes down to the mission
[James:] mm
[Patricia:] and I mean he just sat there
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] I got out and walked across, come back...
[James:] I think er, they're you know I think what it was and when, when for a two mile journey it would be, would three pound twenty or something like that
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] there would, but er yeah I mean
[Patricia:] it's a disgrace
[James:] if you hop on a bus for thirty two, yeah thirty two
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] aye direct from
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and, if you're going along they're own two and a half, you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] it's forty then going that way, but when you think of the taxi, gee
[Patricia:] I think it's a disgrace
[James:] you know that
[Patricia:] that, you know I didn't mind paying it, but if I want a taxi, heck I think that's a disgrace
[James:] cor I would
[Patricia:] I wouldn't of paid that of course, but I were
[James:] who's going to the money in [clears throat] who for a duck, who's gonna the money in? They didn't say, they don't tell ya do they?
[Patricia:] They say that I mean if you see owt, there was a letter in the Gazette seeing that they had er the petrol had gone up and
[James:] aye and
[Patricia:] other things had gone up so they had to put the fares up, but I mean that's, you cannae tell me that that's right
[James:] but then then they expect a tip
[Patricia:] oh aye I know
[James:] on top of that... I can't understand it... I mean do, alright, have, but if the petrol's gone up, it hasn't gone up that much
[Patricia:] aye, of course not
[James:] I mean, they could say that every, every other week, er
[Patricia:] that's true enough
[James:] oh well such and such went up you know and er
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] what it costs, I mean Jimmy next door he was telling us yesterday when he come to er, we, we yeah, aye, yeah I wonder
[Patricia:] ee, cos the pain is too strong aye well I go to the doctor's on Monday er a, and so I'll not be going to our Ann's this
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] weekend
[James:] aye fair enough
[Patricia:] I'll drop it off on Monday
[James:] I think he said er he, he's gotta pay his road tax this week and I think he said it was two hundred and seventy five
[Patricia:] I knew that I've gotten some, some of it
[James:] he shopped around and he said that he got er... I think he says he got it for... sixty pound less I think it is, yeah
[Patricia:] ooh
[James:] oh I mean er
[Patricia:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] [clears throat] I thought it would be all one price er, unless I picked a
[Patricia:] aye, aha maybe
[James:] but er
[Patricia:] maybe the insurance fees and insurance and er probably
[James:] aye, it could be, aye, what sort of cover you have
[Patricia:] that's it, and they do, you can shop around for the insurance and that like
[James:] yeah, yeah...
[Patricia:] cos it's always advertised on the telly
[James:] aye he says he says
[Patricia:] well I think they're expensive car now... apart from anything and I wouldn't make it, take
[James:] I know it is
[Patricia:] take a car on the road
[James:] and that's what I say he
[Patricia:] oh God
[James:] he's taken that son-in-law you know he's
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] picking him up, taking him, bringing him from Sunderland er, when he wants him he just phones him up, can you come up with now, and he's a bloody driver you know and er
[Patricia:] oh yeah aye
[James:] [clears throat] and er... he thinks he's just at his beck and call
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] he here's a couple of pound for ya
[Patricia:] tt
[James:] he says, he says I've put ten pounds' worth of petrol in the car every week and there's not one of them says there's a couple of pound towards the petrol or nowt
[Patricia:] oh no no
[James:] just er run them here, run them there
[Patricia:] mm, that's it
[James:] [clears throat] you see, he, he cannae get a car because it's
[Patricia:] ah the drink aye
[James:] the he gets, if he's not driving he's in the van, you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm oh yeah, mm, mm mm, mm
[James:] and er [clears throat]... he says there's me, one in mention it any time... you know
[Patricia:] that's it, aha
[James:] well now that it's you know
[Patricia:] aha, I think he just work? Is that the one that's a long distance lorry driver oh
[James:] aye, yeah
[Patricia:] I always thought that was his grandson
[James:] no that's his er son-in-law, he married the youngest daughter
[Patricia:] oh he's, oh I see ah
[James:] and er... er... well he, he, I think he goes in the, the army at one time
[Patricia:] mm, mm, mm, mm
[James:] but now he's
[Patricia:] poor Dougy wouldn't tackle him now
[James:] no... he would er nineteen and a half stone [LAUGHTER] he popped his head in the door when I went to see Jimmy
[Patricia:] oh yeah
[James:] and that
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] [clears throat]... oh but er, you see the job he's got is nay good is it?
[Patricia:] no he's sitting all the time
[James:] er, sitting doing job
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] driving it's nay good, it's nay good to anybody, you get no exercise
[Patricia:] that's it
[James:] and all you do is you put weight on
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] put weight on
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] [clears throat] and if you like you, like your drink ah well it's more weight, weight you gain you cannae
[Patricia:] well it's, this is it, of course it is
[James:] you cannae get away from it
[Patricia:] that's true... but and they like their cup of tea... they've never had a cup of tea
[James:] aye
[Patricia:] is it?
[James:] hard to tell, I just er had a quick cup of tea when I was there quarter past.... When er they coming to do your stairs?
[Patricia:] Erm, I think he said, I er, you know when I phoned erm when you were here last time
[James:] Oh aye, yeah
[Patricia:] not last Friday, Friday three weeks
[James:] that's true...
[Patricia:] and said you can definitely put the thirteenth down on your, in your diary...
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] well that's er all, that's, so that's a week come Monday
[James:] third today eh?
[Patricia:] aha, aye it's er fourth
[James:] Er fourth
[Patricia:] fourth tomorrow cos our John's birthday tomorrow
[James:] mm...
[Patricia:] so erm, and er I, so you didn't see the paper?... No cos you weren't here last Satur Friday were ya?... No... were ya? [LAUGHTER] I can't remember.
[James:] Aye I was here
[Patricia:] Were ya?
[James:] erm
[Patricia:] So you'd seen the paper then?
[James:] er I think I did I cannae
[Patricia:] Say I can't remember I know I was cos
[James:] aye cos you were, you were on the phone
[Patricia:] aye that's right of course that's right
[James:] didn't ya had the last, said you were out
[Patricia:] that's right
[James:] and they'll phone you back
[Patricia:] yeah he'd phone back
[James:] aye, yeah
[Patricia:] mm, that was the week before you weren't here
[James:] the week before that's it...
[Patricia:] Well I thought our John might of been here yesterday, but he didn't come
[James:] No
[Patricia:] of course it wasn't a very nice day I grant the, but erm, I thought he'd of been here...
[James:] ah it were a bit rough er
[Patricia:] ee
[James:] you think he thought twice, yeah
[Patricia:] well it got just eased of a little bit and I thought oh well I'd make it, so I hopped up to get me erm pension... erm and I just got down here when it started again and I came around the front from there and I came around the front I was soaking
[James:] er...
[Patricia:] Fancy a corned beef sandwich Jimmy? Or can you not eat corned beef?
[James:] No, I'll just have a cup of tea thanks, well I just turned away, you know
[Patricia:] Well I've
[James:] er takes a lot in
[Patricia:] but I don't want it
[James:] digesting doesn't it corned beef? Er
[Patricia:] Well I don't like it, but I'll tell ya what I done I opened a tin of corned beef
[James:] Yeah
[Patricia:] and I used half of it and I put it, put some onion and some sliced potatoes in the oven
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] and it was quite tasty and I thought I'd stick it in there
[James:] I think to appreciate it I think you've gotta cook it
[Patricia:] yeah, oh, oh aye
[James:] yeah put it
[Patricia:] yeah, I cannot eat it by itself, I couldn't eat
[James:] every tin I get, I usually
[Patricia:] I couldn't
[James:] have a couple of sandwiches
[Patricia:] oh I couldn't
[James:] and I'd have a heap load left
[Patricia:] no
[James:] and I used to give it to
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] er for the dog you know
[Patricia:] mm, mm, mm, mm
[James:] and er I waste more than I eat because I, I don't know why I get it, do ya know what I do? [clears throat] I get two sli two of the big slices from the
[Patricia:] ah yes, yes
[James:] from the cool counter
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] counter there
[Patricia:] yes I know the...
[James:] and I have er, there were six ounces you know that
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] I could have done
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] but there were the, I get them with the four... big slices and one slice see
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] you know with, got to four, five minutes, I would just
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] but I couldn't eat a lot because
[Patricia:] I don't like it in the sandwiches I wouldn't eat it
[James:] How d'ya know if you don't
[Patricia:] but I don't like sandwiches, like, you know
[James:] I don't know what it is, but, you know when you think, it just hasn't got that taste now it's
[Patricia:] I just had that's how I feel and
[James:] you know there's no, I mean when we bought stuff forty, fifty years ago
[Patricia:] give you they tell me the
[James:] oh, [LAUGHTER] yeah
[Patricia:] [LAUGHTER] this is some that []
[James:] but, how d'ya know this, they've bombarded everything
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] I mean a piece of cheese fifty year ago
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] you could sit er eat it you know
[Patricia:] eat it like that you couldn't now
[James:] but now it's
[Patricia:] no
[James:] it's all er been, er
[Patricia:] it's like plastic isn't it?
[James:] aye
[Patricia:] It all taste the same to me
[James:] they've been got at [LAUGHTER]
[Patricia:] tastes just like plastic
[James:] I mean it takes you all your time to find a good nice potato an'all
[Patricia:] It does, you're right there
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] I got a bag of potatoes, the ones, say I thought erm this morning, I'd, I'd open a tin of corned beef actually it was an accident I er forgot that, what, I was opening a tin of corned beef for, erm, I was gonna make a salad when I realized that I didn't like corned beef
[James:] No
[Patricia:] our Susan does, I didn't... and I thought well I, I, when I come back I'll not feel like eating this
[James:] no
[Patricia:] salad, so I thought cut it up and in slices and put it in the casserole with some onions and an Oxo Cube
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] and erm whatever you may need a stock and that and put sliced potatoes in it and some carrots and then on the top I've put sliced potatoes and left them on top of the casserole, well later on when I came home I just took the lid off and stuck in the top of the oven instead
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] the middle and I crisped the taters on the top and it was lovely
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] it was really tasty, but I've been... So when do you go to see the nurse then?
[James:] Oh er
[Patricia:] It's next week?... Tell me
[James:] fortnight next Wednesday
[Patricia:] what's the Wednesday you go?
[James:] It was a week ago when I was here
[Patricia:] Aha
[James:] a week on Wednesday
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] and she said well make it a month instead of two cos it was a bit
[Patricia:] ah yeah
[James:] was a
[Patricia:] yeah mm
[James:] so that was like... one week
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] two weeks next week and two weeks after that
[Patricia:] oh yeah
[James:] and so it's a fortnight next Wednesday
[Patricia:] mm, mm, mm, mm
[James:] er, you still
[Patricia:] yes
[James:] oh [clears throat] I put the date due is on, put, write on the card for ya, I says oh just put on me, I'll be dealing with, oh he says
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] I'll just put on here
[Patricia:] then you went and forgot didn't ya?
[James:] yeah
[Patricia:] Should of had it on the card and tucked it in
[James:] aye
[Patricia:] your pocket
[James:] well I rang er, well I four weeks it's
[Patricia:] oh yeah
[James:] no time but er [clears throat] it was an odd time because it was er, an extra week
[Patricia:] aye
[James:] aye, you see, that's why so it meant that we have been going the last week in each month, er each second month
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] there's still a week left and this one's gonna have one
[Patricia:] of course that's right
[James:] see
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] and that's what er, we had a we never had a of last week end of the month
[Patricia:] that's right
[James:] and yet there's another week left, one of which were gone a week into er the last week of February that er
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] made it er queer... but then I'll need tablets by then an'all, so
[Patricia:] of course you will see you get them then
[James:] that's the trouble it means
[Patricia:] yeah
[James:] do I go on doing the next
[Patricia:] aye I know
[James:] that's two doing here
[Patricia:] mm, mm
[James:] or... do I, then doing quarter turn
[Patricia:] aha
[James:] get at the back of the queue, see the doctor and then see the nurse
[Patricia:] then see the nurse aye
[James:] When, when you've finished she says, I'm sure she says you can have all the batteries... and they're all, they're all Duracell an'all.
[Margaret:] Oh are they? I can do with one for me clock [LAUGHTER]
[James:] We'll, I'll I'll wait until I
[Margaret:] Mm
[James:] but, you seen this? four
[Margaret:] and they're good ones an'all ain't they?
[James:] I know... four, six, eight, ten, twelve
[Margaret:] Oh well
[James:] so I'll wait and see aye
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] well I'm, I'm almost sure she says yeah
[Margaret:] cos the one I put in, that was no good
[James:] well if you, she says you, er keep the batteries, you know
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] so, er, these are alkaline, thirty ah alkaline, I says you not use them, you can't leave them you know what I mean?
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] And er
[Margaret:] oh well
[James:] there you are, fair enough...
[Margaret:] so I bou bought er a jumper and a skirt... that was nice
[James:] That er nice, er what they call them?
[Margaret:] up date that Jimmy, where d'ya get that from?
[James:] I just won it in a...
[Margaret:] ... you not want it?
[James:] No on the Antiques Roadshow the other week
[Margaret:] What's that then?
[James:] the er what you call it? No you switch it on like
[Margaret:] Well that's, what's, what's that story about now?
[James:] I don't know what
[Margaret:] Oh
[James:] what they call it, the er, what do you call it jewellery
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] you know, which
[Margaret:] who might
[James:] can you think Oh aye er it seems to be coming into fashion, people buy the, ee, ee these cheap items like rings
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] necklaces and all that
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] and they're buying 'em paying money for them... Yeah
[Margaret:] isn't it?
[James:] No
[Margaret:] On their little finger
[James:] you can have it
[Margaret:] erm, as I want, I was gonna tell you something, er did Billy tell you how much weight that lad's ele eleven pound, eleven pound he was I've gone, aye eleven pound, on the eleventh day the lad's eleven pound
[James:] yeah, yeah
[Margaret:] you know, Jimmy
[James:] Aye it is
[Margaret:] I keep going feeling, feeling sick and going dizzy
[James:] Aye, she says I'm feeling sick, well that's er all your if your head is what you call it when you feel awful, you know I say if you've been on the, on the drink you know when you get up and your head ooh, well that sets your stomach off, so his trouble's coming from his head, on his stomach
[Margaret:] I must of this
[James:] and everything
[Margaret:] do you know why? The doc the hospital says there's nothing wrong with him Jimmy he looks really ill to me
[James:] Well I said I said if you're not satisfied
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] you go and get a second opinion anywhere you want, nowt ee said he cannae go to another doctor
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] or a hospital and ask them to give a good check, what they told us, they daren't seemed to want to bother with people now
[Margaret:] no
[James:] they just want to write you a prescription up and right there dunno, he was seeing he's
[Margaret:] cos er I mean, I mean, I says I didn't want but I, I wouldn't of been back but I would of been getting off that bus now
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] but er Barry come off her husband and he said oh you going down oh I says aye, he saves us fifty pence [LAUGHTER]... and I got you in your bread and a pie, right, er I want the erm, did Billy take the dishes up?...
[James:] Oh I ask him, he said that when he was here he says oh I'll pick them up another time
[Margaret:] Well I want I took them off Bill and, you can put them in here, erm
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] yeah, I went out with, I didn't have any gravy yesterday... so
[James:] I thought you would of noticed
[Margaret:] aha, well I'm, I'm doing er couple of Oxos and I had to thicken it with some self raising flour, it was alright
[James:] Nice
[Margaret:] because I wanted gravy on the chicken so he had a good taste [LAUGHTER]
[James:] er
[Margaret:] there's your bread then
[James:] Right I pay that
[Margaret:] stuff there
[James:] yes
[Margaret:] ninety nine pence
[James:] right
[Margaret:] so it's er ninety nine pence yours, I do believe
[James:] ninety nine and that'll do it
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] oh
[Margaret:] it was fifty one in the
[James:] [belch]
[Margaret:] absolutely, I bet that's on tape [LAUGHTER]...
[James:] Them oranges are nice
[Margaret:] They're nice weren't they?
[James:] Aye
[Margaret:] Aye they were lovely... aye they're nice, I got, I've sent [LAUGHTER]
[James:] aye, that's it I mean
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] I, I was gonna say to her mind our
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] he said or you know
[Margaret:] oh
[James:] she didn't see it I'm sure
[Margaret:] I wouldn't
[James:] did you see that in that
[Margaret:] No, I, I wanted things savouries, erm, onions and cheese and, and else mind, cheese and on cheese and onion there's cheese and onion, there was salad cream and erm she said do you want a salad? So I, I, you know I always have a salad for me dinner and I have a salad when I night... [LAUGHTER]... aye...
[James:] there are, twenty, forty, twenty, forty, sixty [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] but still I've got a hundred pound in there, you have seventy one, seventy two pound worth, plenty stuff erm
[James:] that's er... six, that's thirteen,
[Margaret:] hmm aye... cos that's, that's when I'll be going, er that's when I, erm... but Billy says he won't pay the poll tax
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] but I won't pay, I've gotta pay the and that Wednesday
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] you know, on the morning, so if you want any money out on the Wednesday, Wednesday that week dad
[James:] Aye
[Margaret:] erm, I've been, erm do you want any money out the bank this week?...
[James:] Well I've just, I've got, let me...
[Margaret:] I'll go down and erm...
[James:] fifty pounds
[Margaret:] Oh alright
[James:] but I've been reinstated to twenty three pounds
[Margaret:] oh well
[James:] twenty
[Margaret:] yeah
[James:] so I'm only one a fortnight, so they took the rest
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] another twenty five
[Margaret:] oh well
[James:] to er fifteen pound, ninety eight
[Margaret:] aha yeah
[James:] so I don't know what this, but having do another twenty... then er,... the er the pension had gone in there see as well you see
[Margaret:] I'm cer erm, on the, on the Wednesday
[James:] or
[Margaret:] on the Wednesday when, when I go and get your erm, get your money... out the bank maybe I'm gonna pay poll tax, Billy pay for it until I get that money out on the Wednesday
[James:] Oh, oh
[Margaret:] but you know
[James:] cos er gone in er, it's gone in this week, but er
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] pension
[Margaret:] well see how, but I'm saying it'll be due, it'll be due the same, the same
[James:] Oh I just think the will be in there they'll be in the
[Margaret:] oh yes
[James:] goes in the sixth end of
[Margaret:] Sorry do they get that, get that this week or they'll wait till next week?
[James:] I'll get it next week
[Margaret:] Right
[James:] so
[Margaret:] so I'll be, I'll come down, I'll be, I'll be down tomorrow cos I'm doing mince and dumplings and I'll bring you some down
[James:] so put that in
[Margaret:] mm, mm
[James:] then draw er
[Margaret:] plus twenty eight pounds' worth
[James:] plus twenty eight, thirty, so I'll just draw, let me... ah forty five I think
[Margaret:] that's enough
[James:] so put that
[Margaret:] cos the following aha
[James:] forty five
[Margaret:] right, so I be, I'll come down tomorrow with your mince
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] and dumplings and er I come, on Wednesday I come down, I come down for your
[James:] right
[Margaret:] for your, your erm, your pension book and that
[James:] right
[Margaret:] so I'll just go out, on erm Thursday I'll just go, I'll bring a tray down on Wednesday an'all
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] and then I'll just go straight down there and I'll meet outside the erm outside the
[James:] yeah erm... so you're not going to do yours until next week, er... now what department?
[Margaret:] My poll tax
[James:] No your... aargh
[Margaret:] Mortgage
[James:] mortgage
[Margaret:] oh it's not due until next week
[James:] oh...
[Margaret:] so that's what I'm saying not this Wednesday but next Wednesday I'll be going down straight in the morning
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] so you wanna, if you want the banks, I'm going to the bank then but to pay the insurance
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] man, but this week I'm going Thursday, and I'll meet you in, outside
[James:] I'll, I don't know if they want a this week
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] forty five and then I'll have the money to give you straight away for a
[Margaret:] aha, that's right
[James:] couldn't I?
[Margaret:] well Billy, Billy says well take that
[James:] Yeah
[Margaret:] and then he'll come back and then he er gone and pay that, he, he go and get his... his sickness, note that from work and that
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] you know, Jimmy you haven't, you wouldn't have any paracetamols you can give us would ya?
[James:] You can have a box
[Margaret:] Cos I haven't
[James:] if you like
[Margaret:] I haven't got any and I've got a terrible headache and I
[James:] then you're very I, I, I only took four... these are, these are
[Margaret:] separate it's erm I phoned
[James:] erm
[Margaret:] I phoned me friend up you know and erm... on Friday and asked and she said you don't sound very well, I said I've got a headache I said I've had a headache every, cos I've been on a diet and she turned round and said, she said you know she says it's funny she says erm, you know what's with us, what's it with? She says oh she says erm with erm, covering up, covering up that, up the Coke, er, I mean I've done Coke by years and years and years, I say
[James:] Aye
[Margaret:] the de decaff in it
[James:] oh aye, yeah
[Margaret:] it's like a drug
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] she says take about two or three with it, get, get out the system, the cough, it just pains in me head all the time, I mean I've never known headaches all
[James:] well that's what I say in all tablets and that if you take 'em for long you'll become addictive to them
[Margaret:] that's it, I was, I was, I must of been addictive to the Coke
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] cos I couldn't do without it
[James:] no...
[Margaret:] so that must be, that must be that there caffeine in the Coke
[James:] yeah, oh I'll give ya the rest of them there are
[Margaret:] okay
[James:] er ninety
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] oh good []
[James:] than ninety, hmm
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER] I don't know []... oh... They've been telly that Tom give us, that give us and then I didn't put on
[James:] aye, I looked at you know what I mean it was er, what they call? It was here weren't it?
[Margaret:] er Tom says that that was where that [LAUGHTER]
[James:] apparently he said to us all come up
[Margaret:] eh
[James:] that
[Margaret:] but he was just last, last, but last year
[James:] aye and that was the name of the race, national, this year it was the, was running it
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] in for it, drinking at and last year the coincidence was and there was a horse in the race called... the year the, the wi the winner a woman
[Margaret:] I know
[James:] a man bought a horse
[Margaret:] eighty thousand, aye
[James:] and give it to her, now it's won the race
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] she's won the trophy and ninety nine thousand odd pounds for winning the race, so she's, careful of that, there's all the rest there
[Margaret:] oh ta, I
[James:] you want one of these for your
[Margaret:] I have not
[James:] I, I, I've put all mine in
[Margaret:] I what, it's just that the, the clock it's go it's, it's going tt, tt, tt
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] cos it's, it's, it's run out and all the noise things
[James:] it's one to one
[Margaret:] aye [LAUGHTER] a pig [] [LAUGHTER] pig [LAUGHTER]
[James:] I'll give you hand...
[Margaret:] and I'll put, I'll put me
[James:] so I'll er, I give that to the er
[Margaret:] Jim put the erm, stand will it Jimmy?
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] putting them in... erm they'll be wanting for tomorrow see
[James:] yeah...
[Margaret:] I miss it, I missed it on Sunday, they bring me yorkshire puddings in [LAUGHTER]
[James:] What?
[Margaret:] I mix it, I mi I mixed that, missed it that jug
[James:] Oh, aye
[Margaret:] put my yorkshire puddings in [LAUGHTER]...
[James:] ...
[Margaret:] Did Les do your peas? Les do your peas?
[James:] any peas
[Margaret:] I say I've got some... mind you I didn't have, left the dumpling at mine, I've got a load erm dumpling mix, you've, a great big load for forty three no fifty, fifty three pence from erm the place up erm
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] they just scoop it in a bag and there's loads in it, probably make loads of dumplings with it... it's got the flour and suet with it, you just mix it up
[James:] aha
[Margaret:] aye, cos you pay forty odd pence for a little packet
[James:] why, I was what they call it? Er, yorkshire pudding I mix up exactly to the book you know... and I just realized the er... er what they call it now, the bonus
[Margaret:] ah
[James:] well what they call it, you know it does one to nine and it
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] next the high
[Margaret:] ha
[James:] whether you put it on number two or number nine or high it's still the same, flame
[Margaret:] oh...
[James:] that's what Dougy done when he, that Saturday afternoon when he... was and that at the
[Margaret:] no, over
[James:] over, cos all the buttons have been knocked off the end you know
[Margaret:] oh right
[James:] the one for the, what the call it, it's all bent, er... grill and er he must of banged er, what he call that one er oven one
[Margaret:] that's probably not so
[James:] and er and didn't realize it all the time I was wondering how it was in... three, an hour and three quarters, two hours and inside was still er raw, an hour and
[Margaret:] burnt it, what er twenty minutes twenty minutes aha
[James:] I said that was in an hour and three quarters
[Margaret:] that's
[James:] I went I took it out
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] the same as still er raw... and it didn't dawn on me, but then, oh I says it's gotta be, I said it's gotta be the
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] that on high would, the flame would be leaping up, I don't turn it right up
[Margaret:] oh
[James:] the flames... so I says it's gotta wait, so
[Margaret:] well if you want to I'll make some yorkshire puddings on Sunday for ya
[James:] I tell you oh dear, I don't mind and er get a couple of hours, but er, it does eventually get to the middle
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] but it shouldn't, it shouldn't take er
[Margaret:] it shouldn't take that long
[James:] aye... couldn't of been
[Margaret:] don't take long just twenty minutes
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] mine go, mine go phew like that
[James:] I says it's gonna be a worry for
[Margaret:] aye aye
[James:] but you, can you do?
[Margaret:] I know
[James:] till you get a new cooker, [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] er, how does you
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] it's a new cooker, a new one Jimmy
[James:] no... oh I carpets and what have you you know... I think you can make do as long as you've got one, you know why it
[Margaret:] and the pots are alright
[James:] yeah, well I mean I can cook you a, a meal on it, but if you can't, you can't can ya?...
[Margaret:] as long as it's clean Jimmy that's it, the main thing isn't it?
[James:] aye well, aye ooh well it's amazing that er, that hoover...
[Margaret:] er, er that, it's there's alright, it's just here they're wanting that
[James:] I know you see, through walking, the weight in your feet
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] you walk all the years, the rubber underneath
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] comes up through the carpet
[Margaret:] that's the worse thing rubber, rubber here Jimmy
[James:] I mean look at this on here
[Margaret:] I know, I know
[James:] I mean look at this
[Margaret:] I know...
[James:] it was brand new here, look at that
[Margaret:] I know, see the worst thing in, in a sitting room the carpet Jimmy
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] in a bedroom it's alright
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] you know it's the worse thing
[James:] see with this it's gone just there, and there a bit
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] right up the stairs, the passage and er... I noticed that on the stairs not too bad you know, that hardly gets used, er
[Margaret:] see that, that come aha, well that carpet we've got in the sitting room you know, it was, it was twelve hundred pound, only put it down a few, er a few months before we
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] we went in, you know, and that was the place an'all even the carpet that's twelve hundred pound, cos they showed us the bill, you know er it's been a it's dirty and that but you know that wants, wants a good washing... you know
[James:] I forget what all this cost but er, well, five year ago it wouldn't of been
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] half of what it is now
[Margaret:] no I know
[James:] and I was afraid picking it up
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] from the
[Margaret:] aye aha
[James:] Terry
[Margaret:] I remember aye
[James:] then it changed to Tommy's
[Margaret:] aye, aha
[James:] and that's where we got it, cos then
[Margaret:] my mum used to get from Alan's
[James:] oh yeah
[Margaret:] she used to get all our Christmas presents from Alan's and that, you know
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] you know
[James:] but er that's where we went to in there...
[Margaret:] and he's not sleeping either and he's tossing and turning, oh at night, he keeps you awake you know
[James:] yeah...
[Margaret:] so that day at erm, it was two weeks' time that day erm... tt, think is on er Robocop Robocop, both starting next month Robocop
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] at erm, I think the following erm
[James:] of yeah
[Margaret:] but I, I don't know if you want a tape, there's a carry film on, erm, it's er, it's a family and they go away for Christmas, you know, and er the little lad gets left by his self [LAUGHTER] Jim []
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] and you know the things he gets up to, he, well there's two burglars trying to get into the house, well, he shoots, he shoots them down there [LAUGHTER] both got their little pop guns and that and he, and he flings irons at them and that and, and marbles and ee, ee, you know, then the mother realizes like when she's on the plane that she's left her son at home [LAUGHTER] er, the, the film's, the film's good, don't you feel like anything like that? No
[James:] Well as long as it is a good comedy
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] but if it's a poor comedy
[Margaret:] it's just about a little lad that you know
[James:] yeah yeah
[Margaret:] ... I was reading in the, in er, in that paper that you give us, you know, I was reading soaps and that
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] Tom er that little Sam erm said she doesn't want him back or something
[James:] yes you know she didn't want a
[Margaret:] and erm, she, er, he gets lost in the bush
[James:] ee
[Margaret:] and erm, she's desperate at the end or something, she for good or something... but she does get him at the end or summat, at er E Street, E Street started last night, it's on Sky, erm, it seems canny
[James:] E Street?
[Margaret:] E Street... I say it's canny, but erm soap
[James:] Aye
[Margaret:] it's a soap story you know, there's a few, there's a few of erm Sons and Daughters in it Jimmy mind, there's loads of Sons and Daughters in it
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] and some of Neighbours, Jason Donovan's father's in it, you know
[James:] erm, er
[Margaret:] aye aha
[James:] ones that
[Margaret:] well it's, it's it's on at one o'clock, one o'clock and er it's on erm... half past six tonight, well I've taped it at half past six tonight and after everybody's watched the news I've, I watched it after, er, you know, so, I watch it then an hour
[James:] I've got some of them things for
[Margaret:] do ya?
[James:] er, I haven't opened the packet yet, I just thought if you wanted to try one, you stick them on a radiator or you know
[Margaret:] you know er, it's funny since I've been on a diet er, it is, I must be getting, now where... [yawn]...
[James:] [whistling]
[Margaret:] You know it's funny when I've been up when I've been on a diet, I mean smelling, smoked out, smoked out on the house
[James:] and the house is ruined
[Margaret:] I know
[James:] it seems to get under these er
[Margaret:] ah
[James:] double floors
[Margaret:] ah
[James:] and it seems to carry on up the stairs
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] and you cannot shift it
[Margaret:] aha, see he used to smoke at work, cos he only comes round
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] and you can't tell me it's stopped smoking [LAUGHTER]
[James:] well that's safety you know what I mean
[Margaret:] no
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] and then take the
[James:] if they, asking people to stop breathing
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] you got, you know, you've gotta put up with it and er...
[Margaret:] is that what we got from
[James:] aye, better
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] so, er... ah sooner the
[Margaret:] didn't you want that?
[James:] I thought there was two or three of these easy
[Margaret:] Oh
[James:] to re-fill you know
[Margaret:] oh
[James:] yeah... when I get home I am I'll just stick that in the there's er a, a pie
[Margaret:] I'll stick that, I stick that
[James:] take that back an'all, and, stick it on here then stick in your radiator, that's only a weather chart really to put that in, so you have any
[Margaret:] I'll stick it on top of the radiator
[James:] I don't think we'll need this er... holder
[Margaret:] ooh
[James:] sent that back look, you just put one of them in there
[Margaret:] mm, mm...
[James:] er
[Margaret:] aha... I put it on top of your radiator... I put your bag up there, it's not a [LAUGHTER]
[James:] yeah, with that er...
[Margaret:] no, what time does the post office open Jimmy?...
[James:] er
[Margaret:] At quarter to?
[James:] quarter to I think...
[Margaret:] Mm, mm I'd of put them in the, even with these new glasses I these dark ones, you know the dark ones I had to put them on this morning I had to put these dark glasses on cos the light hurt me eyes, so I had to put these on put on reading, er glasses Jim
[James:] aye... why, don't want a carpet on there, he says I dunno want a carpet
[Margaret:] oh have ya?
[James:] oh I've got plenty of
[Margaret:] You've got fix it first
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] oh look at
[James:] no I've got a I've got a, what they call it? erm... inch
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] inch square, you take the backing off and you can
[Margaret:] oh aye
[James:] stick things on the, on the wall
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] like in a little square, I've got a load of them in there, I'll just use that one of them
[Margaret:] oh well
[James:] I've got loads of Blu-Tack and that which er
[Margaret:] I, I stick me er gnome's head on yesterday with the Blu-Tack, the dog had knocked it off again, so behind and er, and er... I know, how much did them cost ya?
[James:] One, four, nine
[Margaret:] Oh well it wasn't that bad then Jim
[James:] no, cos I feel I'm being yeah, er, design I can never be to a boiler or storage heater for the winter also the heater would activate the till the heat
[Margaret:] I put I said to him
[James:] and the heat and the heat activates the
[Margaret:] I put the [LAUGHTER] oh I put
[James:] that begins working bedroom, bathroom, middle room or even in the... on a
[Margaret:] Did Billy take, ooh forget me for me bedroom
[James:] Yeah
[Margaret:] I think I'll have to get a new curtain rail... it's that the plastic snapped been on the curtain ring
[James:] yeah...
[Margaret:] tt... oh, I said to Billy I said instead of getting one of them plastic ones, I may get one of them wooden ones, just, you know sort of like dear the wooden ones
[James:] A wooden er
[Margaret:] wood, the wooden, the wooden reels you know, why I got, I did
[James:] oh, er, er
[Margaret:] the round ones
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] yeah...
[James:] You'll want the screws with them don't ya? Cos you cannae get them straight in like that
[Margaret:] Aha
[James:] it's strong enough cos, cos when you take it off there
[Margaret:] oh
[James:] it's opening in a
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] so you've gotta hold it and get a bracket then whether er the ones they've got in the back and the one in the front there
[Margaret:] switch ones, is it switch?
[James:] no, it's the but they're better
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] they're round
[Margaret:] a week well Billy bought that er bra
[James:] ah aluminium
[Margaret:] well Billy bought that er brass one you know by, by the patio and that wooden one was already up
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] and I, I, Billy said I don't know what it is
[James:] mm, see the...
[Margaret:] what?
[James:] it's been going around and around here for the last four days... er I bet it's been coming round the block up this street about eight to ten times a day, I dunno what's it doing, the up here
[Margaret:] It's mad, it's mad it's not too bad
[James:] but er, I cannot understand on the road
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] it'll be ano well another half an hour it'll be back on the road again...
[Margaret:] hmm, so that post office, I says to Billy I won't be long and I'll do you some rice
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] then I took the dog for a walk
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] gee listen to the bones rattling me knees and back aha... mm, I'll be done tomorrow, you, erm
[James:] ah, right, aye I've had er
[Margaret:] your dinner ...
[James:] [whistling]
[Margaret:] Oh this changing put them on pot lid, I'll put them on pot then put them
[James:] Yeah it's alright in
[Margaret:] oh
[James:] housewife
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] er he said I'll
[Margaret:] mm, mm
[James:] accent North East
[Margaret:] you taught yourself did ya?
[James:] with just friends
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] yeah, mm
[Margaret:] taught yourself [LAUGHTER] right...
[James:] it's alright
[Margaret:] so you've got everything then have you?
[James:] Yes, aye I phoned them up
[Margaret:] Oh did you? When that then?
[James:] trying to get through the, he says oh them people have left here, now you'll have to, and he gives us another two numbers and that, I got through on one of the numbers and then er, I asked I says oh I says I didn't get me photograph and me plastic wallet, he says well you don't really need them you know when you retired, but I says how can you go on the train, you sure of that? Anybody
[Margaret:] I know
[James:] cos he was up and coming
[Margaret:] I know
[James:] and you'll so you must have to show er some identi besides that
[Margaret:] oh
[James:] if you're not gonna use your
[Margaret:] it's a pity cos I mean if we put, if, if Billy went away on [LAUGHTER] I could use it []
[James:] Well I, that's what I say to it's, it's not a I mean your four door and the, the plastic pass is in one side
[Margaret:] aye
[James:] the photo is in this side with identi number and your photo
[Margaret:] just a pity because Bil Billy couldn't get away with that Jimmy
[James:] yeah, but anyway
[Margaret:] probably would of saved him money wouldn't it?
[James:] aye, but anyway you know, it's not advisable because if we
[Margaret:] I know
[James:] if you are caught then
[Margaret:] well Billy got, got er I think last time remember, erm, when er
[James:] oh yeah
[Margaret:] on the fam on, on the family [LAUGHTER]
[James:] so anyway they're gonna send it through
[Margaret:] oh well
[James:] they're gonna send it through
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] the lad said oh we'll send it through, you know... and address
[Margaret:] oh well
[James:] they were gonna send it to in Gateshead you know that's what I've got down
[Margaret:] aha oh well
[James:] so I'm glad that's fixed and I'll what's oh if he's got them
[Margaret:] What's this? Oh aye
[James:] from seven in the morning till ten at night
[Margaret:] aha, well I says to Billy we'll go shopping
[James:] eh a couple of minutes
[Margaret:] I don't know if Billy's got, cos I dunno if we're getting stuff down again I dunno what we're doing, it all depends, it all depends what I want, cos their chicken, chickens, chicken down there are only one pound odd
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] you know
[James:] they'll be free anyway this
[Margaret:] that's what I'm saying
[James:] this time of day, day, er
[Margaret:] ask, cos it's, sometimes he gets sometimes he gets tired now Jimmy you know and er
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] you know, say, say on Thursday I had, I had the trolley and I had a basket and I was just putting your stuff in the basket
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] and put my stuff in the trolley and that, you know
[James:] oh, it'll be a lot easier to get your stuff an'all
[Margaret:] aha
[James:] and be the three were to carry it out so I bother
[Margaret:] aha, that's, so I did, cos this week well maybe on a diet I'll, I'll just get salad stuff and, you know when you, I'll just get the mince and er shops that shops that and I'll just get me frozen stuff at the, you know, just at the
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] job lot and the chicken, the chicken's erm, what I think one thirty nine or something, you know and you can get a just a nice size
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] there was a chicken leg left there and er, I know
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] and it was carrying
[James:] oh the cheese I eat
[Margaret:] mm
[James:] er, you can taste it, you know
[Margaret:] oh well then
[James:] er, and the oranges were nice and juicy
[Margaret:] I thought er er, I, I've
[James:] and I've got
[Margaret:] got three oranges and three apples left
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] well that'll do for today, tomorrow and Wednesday
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] you know for me diet and that
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] but I have two cheese sa two cheesy sandwiches, and col coleslaw for my dinner and erm I don't have I have chicken on, on erm... a, cos what you call it? I bought some lovely sausage in next door, grill a couple of slices and just have it erm, with the, by the time that with chicken you know
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] could you have salad with that? Sausage on, could have salad with sausage or not?
[James:] Well, cold or hot you know, unless you've had your er
[Margaret:] Cos it
[James:] your sausage gone cold... but I couldn't
[Margaret:] no it wouldn't
[James:] couldn't see eating salad with a, a hot sausages you know
[Margaret:] oh
[James:] but er, you, you would with, what they call it now?
[Margaret:] Pasta
[James:] Ah
[Margaret:] I may just have me chicken out and keep the sausage for another day
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] I say it's been out the, been out the, she defrost that Saturday night and you know like you I made some
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] and so I just need my salad stuff till another time
[James:] mm
[Margaret:] you know...
[James:] aye
[Margaret:] I'll see what I'm gonna have
[James:] yeah
[Margaret:] I could of brought that piece of chicken down, you could of had it... ooh Christ sorry door [LAUGHTER]
[James:] alright
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[James:] I want to
[Margaret:] sorry door, I'll see you tomorrow then when I come down
[James:] right
[Margaret:] right