[Jane:] I think the Labour Party's heart is in the right place, they want to take a positive approach and do what they can to help industry, to train, to put more money into training youngsters for industry then we have a skill work force, not a cheap, not a cheap unskilled labour force, er, you know, which is what we, what's happening now, because we've just not been trained, they're cutting the training, but it's all the same, anyway you know, I, I, I don't know, you say what can I do for ya, well er in the short run not much except to help the, the people who are on lower income and the children through the budget er which will be introduced, it'll be that why er through er child benefits and through er high, high benefits and through er, er lower taxes for the, everybody up to er twenty odd, twenty five thousand year or something, so, erm I mean that's in the short run and little that can be done, it's not as much as anybody would like, you put more and more into, into er, into training, er more money into industry to help them to invest, er you know you can have a sort of regional development banks to help industry to invest these in, in each of the regions, but I mean the, these are the positive plans and not like this one who's just letting things go.
[John:] If, if under, if and I hope that your crowd get in, see, I think
[Jane:] Yeah
[John:] as I say I'm just fed up with this lot, what is the outlook on er income tax?
[Jane:] Well
[John:] Cos I mean we know it's going up whoever gets in they're gonna put it up
[Jane:] well you know, John Smith laid out his budget for the next, study for the, to cover the next two years and there, I mean there's no intention to, to change it in the foreseeable future, I mean they've laid it out for two years so that the basic rate stays the same, that the personal allowances are being increased so that this will take a lot of lower paid people out of tax and that coupled with the child benefit will make everybody up to about twenty two thousand a year better off, and then from there they'll be a, a, a range of people who to it won't make much difference
[John:] No
[Jane:] overall certainly if they've got children, but if we get above thirty, forty thousand a year, it'll take more the other people who've gained so much
[John:] Yeah
[Jane:] out of the last ten years Yeah, yeah it's not, it's not been fair
[John:] Ooh aye it's not, it's not fair, I agree
[Jane:] and not, not only on income tax but on poll tax local tax
[John:] Yeah, yeah
[Jane:] That's right
[John:] cos I mean that, that's just a joke that
[Jane:] do you think Labour would alter the poll tax and put it back to its sort of original sort of rating system? We're going back to a kind of rating system with the different assessment on valuations Yeah, it's fair int it? The bigger the house the more money you should pay. the Tories are gonna introduce their alternative, but they're still going to... through this banding system, the whole objective of that is to, is to make sure that the better off people don't pay their full whack
[John:] Mm
[Jane:] instead of paying er, you know, three or four times in a, for a big house to, to a very modern poor house
[John:] Yeah
[Jane:] er they only pay sort of one and a half or twice that's the, that's the purpose of the Tories
[John:] Well what el what's the other alternative for this VAT? cos I mean it was the Tories who brought this VAT system into operation, I mean it's wrong
[Jane:] Well
[John:] when you think about it, it's wrong you're paying tax on your wages at source and then you go to the shops and you've got to pay tax on your goods again
[Jane:] Well I hope that That's right
[John:] it's totally wrong
[Jane:] when we got a A taxation system in place which would be fair, which means that the people in the big houses pay more, then we can do something about, maybe making the local people er pay more and reducing central taxes, reducing the VAT, it's not gonna be quick but
[John:] No.
[Jane:] there's, there's no commitment to reduce VAT in the, in the Labour manifesto, but I mean er that will be the spirit of what we wanna do to make the people
[John:] I hope you can, I hope you can do something with it, because being truthful I just, it's just
[Jane:] I'm just warming my hands, it's cold outside Yeah you're welcome
[John:] it's just
[Jane:] anyway I'd better press on
[John:] it's just a joke what they do
[Jane:] He'll have you here all night [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Anyway you make sure you'll vote anyway We will yeah
[John:] Oh yes without a doubt
[Jane:] thanks Cheerio now goodnight, come on in Michael
[Stacey:] Mummy what did the lady want?...
[Jane:] Oh what did he want?
[John:] about me graphs, oh I know he will, this will happen now
[Stacey:] [LAUGHTER]...
[John:] He said...
[Stacey:] Oh mummy
[John:] er... I went in the office and he said er... I'd been stood there about twenty minutes at the window and everybody was flitting around like a bee from flower to flower and they just left me stood there, so I never said anything, go on the back I'm stood there and he said, all of a sudden he comes, cos he already had one of the lads in Ian
[Jane:] Mm.
[John:] says to me, er can I have your graphs please John for last week
[speaker005:] Where's the time?
[John:] so I goes and gets them... goes in the office...
[Stacey:] [cough] Deana
[John:] and he kept, all he was interested in
[Stacey:] Deana
[John:] was erm
[Stacey:] Deana
[John:] it's fifteen minutes stop on the way back
[Jane:] Oh
[John:] so he said what's this here? Said I've been sorting the notes out, I've put them in order back in, so that when he comes to the window all that the office staff gotta do is look through, like we was told to do
[Jane:] Yeah...
[John:] fifteen minutes... he said but you've got twenty minutes here, I said well yeah Nick you've got to fill the return book in as well I said and, he said what, I said well what day was it? He said that was last Friday, oh I said I was filling my timesheet in and my expense sheet, not that long, I said well it takes as long as it takes don't it?
[Stacey:] Mum
[John:] No he says I could do it in a lot less time than that, he said and a lot neater, I said, you saying I'm a scruffy writer?
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Don't think you'd have to
[John:] [LAUGHTER] I said that to him [] and he looked at me over the top of his glasses like that, cos he, in his office, he sits here, the door's there, he sits here and I, I, everybody else has had the door open, I went in and shut the door and I stood behind him, I didn't stand in front of him, stood behind him so, keep away and then all of a sudden he gets his, calculator out and it's [whistling] I said excuse me Eric I said not wishing to be appear thick, I said but, what you doing? He said
[Stacey:] Mum have you got the tape recorder on?
[John:] I'm calculating kilometres into miles... so
[Jane:] All you have to do is talk normally, just ignore it
[Stacey:] Oh right
[John:] said okay, I said and what's the formula that you use? And he told me, he told me, I've got it written on the back of me hand [LAUGHTER] I thought it was brilliant that, I thought little do you know what I'm gonna use that for [LAUGHTER]... he never phoned me for a, he's not phoned me for
[Jane:] Maybe he'll phone tomorrow, d'ya think I'll get four out of that?
[John:] where do you think I'm going?
[Jane:] Birmingham
[John:] Wrong
[Jane:] Manchester
[John:] you know that don't ya?
[Jane:] It's only the kids that are gonna be able to have this you know
[John:] Well give it to the kids then...
[Jane:] Michael stop it...
[John:] I'm gonna have a rum in a minute
[Jane:] Mm?
[John:] I'm gonna have a rum in a minute, I think I'm gonna take a valium
[Jane:] oh it's a bit late for them starting
[John:] Jane I think on Valium [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] They can have a biscuit
[John:] What's for tea?
[Jane:] Casserole
[Stacey:] Mum
[John:] have I time for a scrub or what?
[Jane:] Yeah
[John:] Eh?
[Jane:] Well Michael, right I'm gonna turn this off for a bit...
[speaker005:] You messing my work?
[Stacey:] No
[Jane:] right come on you two get on with it
[speaker005:] Can I just
[Stacey:] you've got a little remote
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Jane:] What are you doing?, what did you do with Michael's bowl?... try and, come on, are you ready for bed? You've cleaned your teeth and everything?... Stacey come on...
[Stacey:] I've done everything...
[Jane:] Have you been on the loo?
[Stacey:] No I don't even need the loo
[Jane:] Er, well get on it please before you go to bed and put some cream on
[Stacey:] Can I have Michael's squeaky squeak?
[Jane:] Please yourself [sniff]
[Stacey:] Thank you, can Michael
[Jane:] Where is he?
[speaker005:] Here
[Jane:] Come on, right tomorrow we're going to strip these beds
[speaker005:] I know you've told me this
[Jane:] look at the state of it Deana look
[speaker005:] I know keep, I picked everything up so I can get my lamp on, I, after I put the lamp on
[Jane:] that's been there all day, come on Deana, if you're gonna have the lamp on you're gonna have to put something away, some books or is that packet any good now? Well alright, but can you, can you not get rid of a couple of the boxes and what's this thing there? well why don't you tip it up the other way and give yourself a bit more room, tomorrow Deana what's that, your dictionary? That book at the end of the shelf?
[speaker005:] That's a library book.
[Jane:] Talking of which, what's the date on it?...
[speaker005:] It should've been back by now, some day in March, twenty eighth of March
[Jane:] Mm
[Stacey:] Mummy can I play with this?
[Jane:] oh I wondered where it was, yes alright... if you stand things up edge to edge, you'll have a bit more room won't ya? There's half that stuff on there doesn't have to be there does it?
[speaker005:] No
[Jane:] Eh? You wanna get it sorted out and tidied up tomorrow, it's too late to do it now...
[speaker005:] I just tidy this end up
[Jane:] quickly
[speaker005:] quickly
[Jane:] and then tomorrow you can take everything off right, everything, dust it and rearrange everything, okay?
[speaker005:] Yeah, Stacey, Stacey said I could keep this like this, she said she wouldn't mind
[Jane:] Well you're gonna have to put the wire down, run it down the bottom
[Stacey:] Mummy is this my?
[Jane:] and you wanna run it down the back, Deana take the wire down the back of all your books on the shelf
[Stacey:] Mummy is this my?
[speaker005:] Shall I do it now?
[Jane:] No do it tomorrow, take everything off tomorrow and when we pull the beds out, strip the beds you can vac all behind the beds, right?
[speaker005:] [cough]
[Jane:] And then sort it out properly
[Stacey:] Mummy this my one?
[Jane:] just for now put things up, look, what you can't get on your shelf put on the drawers because you know
[speaker005:] I'll put on the drawers
[Jane:] what's gonna happen, you're only gonna lose them all down the back
[Stacey:] Mum
[Jane:] come on
[Stacey:] is this my
[Jane:] right sunshine what you up to? What have you got? Oh Michael stop it, oh Michael that's dirty... come on, arms up, you're soaking wet... come on wash your hands... put your hands in, that's it, come here, no, leave the plug alone, what?
[Stacey:] Is this my?
[Jane:] The one that I left on your bed?
[Stacey:] Yeah
[Jane:] Yeah, but use your other one up first, no Michael, put your hands in... put your hands in, in the water, I'm gonna sm Michael... put your hands in the water, right... come here...
[Stacey:] Mummy do I need a new one?
[Jane:] Whoop
[Stacey:] I need a new one
[Jane:] I can't
[Stacey:] I've run out
[Jane:] Let me see the other one first.
[Stacey:] I can't, I can't find it
[Jane:] Show me the other one first and you can find it... oh no you don't, come here
[Stacey:] You put like
[Jane:] we'll sort it out properly tomorrow Stacey... Michael up, now what have you got?
[Stacey:] Mum I can't find it
[Jane:] Alright, start on your new one
[Stacey:] Thank you...
[Jane:] Stacey I want you anyway, come in the bathroom, Michael leave it alone, open your mouth, open, come on... that's right, open again
[Stacey:] Do you think I need a brace?
[Jane:] Oh, I don't know whether you need a brace or not, open, Michael don't know what they are Stacey you'll have to wait for them to grow properly, open...
[Stacey:] Them are going square and my teeth, all my teeth...
[Jane:] Not everybody has a brace you know.
[Stacey:] look
[Jane:] Leave it, mm, yeah, well they look funny because all your other teeth are little teeth, will you come here please? You can have some medicine... come on... and put some vaseline on your lips please
[Stacey:] This is the wrong one.
[Jane:] No it's not
[Stacey:] Oh I remember that other stuff that used to have to have
[Jane:] Mm, mm...
[Stacey:] and I didn't even like it so the doctor had to change it for me
[Jane:] Oh, well you've got it back now, right are you ready?
[speaker005:] Yeah
[Jane:] Right get into bed, I'll be in in a minute, Michael... is he in with you?
[speaker005:] Yeah...
[Jane:] Right, look at, this is a tip this, what's this doing on the floor?
[speaker005:] Now that's a bit better isn't it mummy?
[Jane:] Yeah a little bit, the whole place is a mess though isn't it? It's gonna have to be really done tomorrow... come on, oi, right come on, say goodnight to, oh up the top
[speaker005:] Ah, ma
[Jane:] kiss, kiss... that was a quickie, right kiss Stacey, kiss, kiss
[Stacey:] Urgh on me nose [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] right wave ni-night, ni-night
[Stacey:] ni-night, night, night
[Jane:] ni-night right you've got till nine o'clock, give us a kiss
[speaker005:] And nine o'clock for this
[Jane:] ni-night and Stacey you can lay down and listen to the story, come on put your stuff away and lay down, good night
[speaker005:] Good night
[Stacey:] Good night
[Jane:] ah I did ask you to put those dresses away, will you do them please in the morning? Otherwise they're not gonna be fit for wearing... ta... where have you been? Even your feet are wet, what have you been doing? Eh?... [LAUGHTER]...
[John:] Bill went out in the garage yeah and missed him
[Jane:] You would... he said you could cut that tree down when you're ready.
[John:] Eh?
[Jane:] He said you could cut that tree.
[John:] You said it was Hilda
[Jane:] Well Hilda
[John:] I like
[Jane:] while they're away, well, she never, she was quite happy to let you go ahead and do it... she said, the only thing was, she said she'd miss having the privacy in that corner because of being overlooked at the back.
[John:] Does she want the stump digging up as well?
[Jane:] Well I don't know she never said any
[John:] Well I take a piece of that and I'll make you a bird table out of the piece of trunk
[Jane:] Alright
[John:] about that much
[Jane:] yes
[John:] and we'll put a cross on the bottom of it and I'll put you a piece of plywood across it and you can stick your nuts on or whatever
[Jane:] mm.
[John:] you only want something simple don't ya?
[Jane:] Oh aye, she's gonna put like er erm, you know, trailing stuff over the fence, I suppose that's what we'll use as well to brighten it up a bit look at that, int that a waste? She's taking one mouthful out of that
[John:] Who's that?
[Jane:] That's that...
[John:] [mimicking] Hark at me boy []
[Jane:] Are you gonna go up to him?
[John:] I was gonna wash the pots up so
[Jane:] Mm?
[John:] I was going to wash the pots... I'll go and smack him round the head
[Jane:] He's not been too bad but I tried to put him to sleep upstairs didn't I this afternoon? And he got upset, so I ended up having to bring him downstairs, give him his lunch first and then I put him to sleep in his pram... this is all since the weekend this
[John:] Yeah.
[Jane:] he'd been alright before that.
[John:] Did he get you up last night?
[Jane:] Er... what time was it? I got up to him a couple of times once he only
[John:] Go to sleep Michael
[Jane:] stirred... I must of, don't know what happened this morning, I put the alarm off and turned over and went back to sleep again, it was about ten to eight before I finally got up.
[John:] And then the kids have gotta get up.
[Jane:] Yeah... I had to iron their blouses as well forgot the blouses didn't I? I want Stacey's lunch box
[John:] Eh?
[Jane:] I want Stacey's lunch box... that's
[John:] Go to sleep Michael, go to bo-bos, bo-bos time...
[Jane:] I think we're just gonna have to let him moan... I wouldn't mind, but until last weekend, he never give a dickie bird about going to sleep... I think it was that came in and set him off... she should've just left him on to it instead of trying to do it herself...
[John:] These are
[Jane:] Mm?
[John:] The plates
[Jane:] Yeah I know, do that last...
[John:] What time's the plane in the morning?
[Jane:] I don't know, she said she was leaving here at quarter to five
[John:] Oh, well I won't see 'em, I've got a seven o'clock start.
[Jane:] Have ya? I don't want a cup of tea
[John:] You're not gonna get one.
[Jane:] it's too early
[John:] Please yourself.
[Jane:] if I happen to be awake at that time, then yes, but, if I don't have
[John:] Well make your mind up
[Jane:] No
[John:] yes or no?
[Jane:] I said if I'm awake when you get up then yes, but don't wake me up...
[John:] I wouldn't get, I wouldn't mind if it was bloody six o'clock but it wasn't it was more like half past.
[Jane:] It wasn't it was more like twenty past and I was deep in the land of nod
[John:] You'd been asleep, you was not in the land of nod at all.
[Jane:] I was last week...
[John:] That bloody pie's repeating on me.
[Jane:] It wasn't a pie, it was a casserole.
[John:] The pie
[Jane:] Oh the apple pie, sorry...
[John:] That boy make noise, chuck him out of bed I would...
[Jane:] Oops, sorry
[John:] You will be... did you ask my permission?
[Jane:] No.
[John:] Then don't.
[Jane:] Sorry.
[John:] You will be.
[Jane:] Oh dear, I hope it's not going to be one of those nights...
[John:] [shouting] Go to sleep Michael [] just have a... still won't go.
[Jane:] He will in a minute, I'll go up to him... I'll leave you to do that dirty horrible casserole dish. [LAUGHTER]
[John:] I knew that was coming... you only leave me to do the shit, I never get the good stuff just the crap... ah shut up... what was that?
[Jane:] What was what?
[John:] Dunno...
[Jane:] I didn't hear anything. I don't think so, I didn't hear anything John... what, him knocking one of the cupboard doors or something... John I didn't hear anything... Here you are Stacey come on sit up... come on... oh managed to keep him in bed with you all night, here are
[Stacey:] Thank you.
[speaker005:] Mum you know when you had to take Michael downstairs when he was screaming, Stacey was, he would've gone off just Stacey was chat was talking.
[Jane:] I don't think Stacey had a lot to do with it actually apart from disturbing him coming outside... Yeah well by then you'd, you'd already messed him up, she must've got him to sleep before she put him down in the cot did she?... Nothing to do whether it was you from, from Saturday he's never been the same, will you pick up your pen... before they go on the floor, what else have you got lurking on the bottom of your bed?... how many do you want? Pass it to me please... thank you, Stacey can you reach the erm, no Deana can do it, can you climb down and go and get me one of my tablets please? Which one's clean? Which one are you wearing? The pink one?
[Stacey:] The pink one I can't wear it.
[Jane:] Why?
[Stacey:] You, you, I've not got a slip
[Jane:] You're not wearing any of them?
[Stacey:] No.
[Jane:] You have got an underslip downstairs.
[Stacey:] I know it needs ironing.
[Jane:] Doesn't need ironing [yawn]... Hello, what did you get on your hand? Mm... give me your hand then... what, no, coming out?... Who is it? Who's that? Stacey, Stacey, say Stacey, who's, where's Deana, Deana in here
[speaker005:] Hello
[Jane:] there she is, there she is
[speaker005:] give kiss
[Jane:] Go on Stacey get back in bed to drink your tea
[Stacey:] Hello, say hello, say hello on it, say...
[speaker005:] Oh the little man's coming, what's he doing?
[Jane:] Move over Stacey
[Stacey:] Oh you might knock it
[Jane:] No that's Stacey's, I'll give you yours in a minute, there you are, here are sit still, ta... mm... you gonna put that yellow vest on then Deana?
[speaker005:] Yeah
[Stacey:] Mum
[Jane:] You might as well take
[Stacey:] can you take the tape recorder anywhere?...
[Jane:] Oh here are...
[speaker005:] In her pocket
[Stacey:] Well why is she doing it?
[Jane:] I told you yesterday, erm...
[speaker005:] The money?...
[Jane:] Right Stacey sit down, pull the bench out please...
[Stacey:] Can I open this one for you?
[Jane:] No leave it now... come on... come on, sit down and start copying those out as well please.
[Stacey:] How can I? I haven't got a pen.
[Jane:] I'm giving you a pen now... copy them out and don't spill it, Deana sit down... move up a bit.
[Stacey:] Deana
[speaker005:] What?
[Stacey:] I go there.
[Jane:] Yeah, you'll have to let Stacey in the middle for doing her spelling
[speaker005:] Okay.
[Stacey:] Why do I have to do it in the middle?
[Jane:] Told ya... I always seem to use up all the cereals in one go.
[Stacey:] Do ya?...
[Jane:] Mm, no free samples though is there? I don't think, is there a free sample? oh it's, it's a pen.
[Stacey:] A pen?
[Jane:] Yeah, they're asking you to do a survey thing.
[Stacey:] Can I open it?
[Jane:] If you want to, see if there's a coupon in it.
[Stacey:] Can I open this one?
[Jane:] No, let Michael have it, Stacey come on sit down and do your breakfast so we can do your spelling please.
[Stacey:] I want to open these, please....
[Jane:] Hurry up Stacey... Yep... I've only just done one of those surveys the other week, is there a coupon with it?... No Michael you're not having the pen, he's after the pen Stacey that's all....
[Stacey:] No I don't think there is, can I open this one? Michael's not playing with this... it's your favourite colour
[Jane:] What the pen?
[Stacey:] it's blue, you don't like black biros do ya?
[Jane:] No.
[Stacey:] No it's blue, Michael open it, Michael open it, mummy shall I open it for him?
[Jane:] If you want to. No it's got a coupon as well look you sit down and get on with your breakfast, I won't tell you again....
[speaker005:] Mum what is your favourite colour?...
[Jane:] I don't know really, just a minute, let me open it, I can't get the top of that one, hang on... here are, come on Stacey get on with it... can you move up a bit?...
[Stacey:] What? why didn't you pull the bench out?...
[speaker005:] Cos she's just too lazy to get off of her bottom....
[Jane:] Get up please, go to the other end of the table... right, go on
[speaker005:] Oh I've got it all to myself.
[Jane:] come on, right time is nearly twenty past, now sit down and get on with it... what?... there are... come on Deana you get on you're
[speaker005:] I just can't help wondering something
[Jane:] What? Suit yourself.
[speaker005:] Tell you later.
[Jane:] Don't bother Deana...
[speaker005:] You'll find out in a minute when you...
[Jane:] Right, come on, do you want some more milk Stacey?
[Stacey:] Yes.
[Jane:] Would you like to go and bring it over then?... And you stop dropping your pen, can I do it please?
[speaker005:] Are you going shopping today?
[Jane:] [clears throat] Sort of. I think about it...
[Stacey:] This is yellow.
[Jane:] You must be Samson Stacey cos I couldn't do it?
[Stacey:] Do what?
[Jane:] Samson
[Stacey:] What's that?
[Jane:] Strong... come on hurry up with those words
[Stacey:] Maybe hands were squeaking
[Jane:] I don't know what they were, I certainly wouldn't open that pen... Michael you've made a right mess
[speaker005:] [LAUGHTER]
[Stacey:] ...
[Jane:] Come on... come on Stacey concentrate on what you're doing
[Stacey:] I am... look at that...
[Jane:] It's cos you've got the paper wet, go over there a bit
[Stacey:] Oh no the pen won't work.
[speaker005:] Yes it will.
[Jane:] Cos the paper's wet
[speaker005:] Look.
[Jane:] I told you move over to the other side a little bit, you've got plenty of room at the bottom, start again what's the, what letter are you doing? What word?
[Stacey:] Lay.
[Jane:] Lay, right, give me the pen, right do said and do lay after... come on work your way across, hurry up Stacey please... [clears throat] work your way across not down [sniff] and you've just dropped your pen haven't ya?... Why didn't you start at the top and work across instead of working down?... [sniff]... Stacey don't write so big, you're making a mess... [clears throat]
[speaker005:] We're not having spelling this week, with us, do you know why?
[Jane:] No.
[speaker005:] Shall I tell ya?
[Jane:] Yeah.
[speaker005:] Because we forgot to do, we forgot to do the spelling test last Friday, so we had to do it on Monday so we didn't get any spelling this week, so right now we didn't have a spelling test, this is brilliant, guess what we do now?
[Jane:] What?
[speaker005:] Table test.
[Jane:] That's probably why you haven't got a spelling test.
[speaker005:] No it isn't we, we have, on Monday we had a spelling test and a table test, but the table was quite easy.
[Jane:] Have you been practising?
[speaker005:] We don't need to we've already done them.
[Jane:] You know them that well you can be cocky about it?
[speaker005:] No not cocky, but I know them.
[Jane:] So you know them
[speaker005:] Six, seven eight, nines
[Jane:] so you know that you're going to get them all right?
[speaker005:] I hope so, I've got twenty out of twenty so far... I have to do a spell test each day with twenty in, with twenty in each one
[Stacey:] Have I got all
[Jane:] In each week you mean?
[speaker005:] Mm, mm, do it today, we're doing that today.
[Jane:] What, your tables?
[speaker005:] Yeah.
[Stacey:] have I got all
[Jane:] Er you get on with what you're doing please... what, what you mm-ing at?... What have you dropped this time?...
[Stacey:] Mum is this hoop?
[Jane:] Hope,ho hope, write properly, if it was hoop it'd have two Os wouldn't it? Hoop, has it got two Os? It's got the E after the P which makes the O become an O sound doesn't it? Write properly Stacey come on, say it out to yourself, what are you making such a row?...
[Stacey:] Oh
[Jane:] What you've dropped your pen, well say pen then...
[speaker005:] Like you go to the doctors, you didn't
[Jane:] Mm, come on Stacey.
[speaker005:] I think it's brilliant, and when I came out of hospital you said mummy, I said I want to stay here for a couple of days is that Stacey?
[Jane:] Are you saying that to yourself rope, hope?
[Stacey:] Yes.
[speaker005:] Cope, you haven't got cope on there.
[Jane:] You haven't got, has it got, it's not got cope.
[Stacey:] No.
[Jane:] Come on Stacey
[Stacey:] Why haven't I got it?
[Jane:] I don't know you only put so many down can't you? Stac Deana I mean will you go upstairs and get the tray with the cups on it please?
[speaker005:] Yeah....
[Jane:] Put those in the fridge.
[Stacey:] Easy... what have we got in our sandwiches?
[Jane:] Chicken.
[Stacey:] That's easy that, mummy.
[Jane:] Did what?
[speaker005:] Did I do my bag yesterday?
[Jane:] No I did it last night. Now don't mind me and don't mind it....
[Chris:] Is it on now? [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] Don't you have to plug it in or?
[Jane:] No.
[Chris:] And what you want then? You want some extraordinary words to put in this dictionary like that
[Jane:] No it's just an ordinary conversation
[Chris:] Oh.
[Jane:] that people er, just ordinary talking.
[Madge:] Er will you play it back to us afterwards?
[Chris:] Well er I sound like I sound like Hilda Ogden on the
[Jane:] You, you don't sound at all what you think you sound do ya?
[Chris:] No, no.
[Jane:] I was disgusted when I first heard my voice
[Chris:] Can you remember when you er Mike had it behind the settee at Pigmere Close and he played it backed? I sounded terrible.
[Jane:] Mm that's the worse one I've ever heard.
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] oh she's bad enough when not on tape.
[Jane:] I know, she seems to screech don't she? But
[Margaret:] Well we got er Mrs that was in she's like, when she comes on phone you've got to hold it like that.
[Chris:] Yeah, yeah.
[Jane:] I haven't, you know I haven't dared shown John's mum, but with Michael's birthday we got a video camera out and we videoed her talking, but I'm not
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] she heard herself on the video, I'm sure she oh you've heard her [mimicking duck noise] []
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] she is, she's terrible, I was gonna do that coupon
[Chris:] then she waves at you, she's spotted you, he's lovely...
[Margaret:] Yeah and Uncle Frank was saying those bushes were nice, I hadn't even noticed them.
[Jane:] What, in new house?
[Margaret:] Yeah he must of erm
[Jane:] Well they've all flowered then.
[Margaret:] they must of started coming out
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] cos I said, oh we're having all sorts of different cuttings off from
[Jane:] yeah, but, if you flatten that you want to put
[Margaret:] yeah I will do
[Jane:] cos there very expensive them bushes in there...
[Margaret:] but I said to him, I said to him there's loads of bushes in the back as well
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] she were
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] saying they all flower in the summer
[Madge:] But is she gonna take any or not?
[Margaret:] No.
[Madge:] No.
[Margaret:] No cos she's got a great big garden like yours
[Madge:] Has she?
[Margaret:] she's actually, did I tell ya I asked her what Charmwood meant, you know cos it's called
[Madge:] Charmwood, yes.
[Margaret:] Charmwood the house and she was saying when her mum and dad were courting, where they used to do the co courting, like must of been a wood and that I think Yes
[Jane:] Oi
[Margaret:] there was a place close by called Charmwood so
[Madge:] There is it's near Betty.
[Margaret:] Oh is there? And also I think it was at
[Chris:] Oh it, I've been there.
[Margaret:] was it in the Midlands?
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] And there's erm, there was a firm Charmwood as well
[Madge:] Oh.
[Margaret:] so that's why her mum and dad called it Charmwood cos it's where they did their courting.
[Chris:] It's nice, it's lovely.
[Margaret:] Oh she said she's gonna erm, part of the garden in Wales she's having it made into like a rose garden or something it's like a, did she say it's an acre
[Jane:] Smallholding
[Margaret:] Mm
[Jane:] yeah it's like a smallholder
[Margaret:] and she's gonna call that Charmwood.
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Oh can you imagine what that's like if they have one? She said she's had some that extension
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Madge:] She drives you bloody dizzy so I don't know what she's
[Margaret:] No she said she's been to have a look at, it's Glenys I don't, no not Glenys
[Jane:] Glenys, yeah.
[Margaret:] Glenys has she had an extension?
[Madge:] yeah and she said it was quite a good thing
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Madge:] when I told her about... and she come running back to me on phone the other week Glenys, Glenys, she said will you tell people if they spend twenty five pound at Tescos, I thought well that won't be me, or is it thirty, you get a thing and to take it to school to put towards computers
[Margaret:] Oh.
[Chris:] Yes I've heard about
[Madge:] Why's that at? What school? no because it's Saint Mark's, it's at Woodbone Road
[Jane:] mm, I've not heard of that one.
[Madge:] What? I won't be spending twenty five pounds
[Margaret:] Well on the what's the name next week on erm you know that Granada report where they do, they cook a meal
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] Yeah
[Margaret:] er getting this woman to do erm
[Madge:] and it's gonna be lovely that extension is that, you know by the plans and the pictures.
[Margaret:] Yeah, I suppose to, you know with you saying it's quite a biggish house, I said erm, does she need it like so she said yeah because the two kids are in one bedroom.
[Madge:] Who's this, our Glen?
[Margaret:] Mm... well she's having another bedroom which make it four bedrooms.
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Oh it looks lovely, you know the, how the architect has done it from
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] the front, the side and the back...
[Madge:] It'll be very nice Margaret when it's done.
[Margaret:] it was only with your mum saying it was quite a biggish house anyway
[Madge:] Well it is, I think she's just, she wanted to, to do a bigger third bedroom
[Margaret:] Mm
[Madge:] and she's had this bloke round and I think he's
[Margaret:] and they've taught her
[Madge:] he's recommended to her that instead of making the third bedroom bigger, to make four bedrooms because it would increase the value of the house more.
[Chris:] The house
[Margaret:] I mean anybody else would of made do with a little bedroom, I mean it's big enough to get a bed and a dressing table and what in, and it's bigger, it's a lot bigger than mine
[Madge:] What I suppose she thinks is if she can afford to do it, do it.
[Chris:] Who's this?
[Madge:] Pam,
[Margaret:] Pam.
[Madge:] she's had all her plans done for her
[Chris:] Has she?
[Madge:] extension, this bloke come round...
[Margaret:] Come on pop what you doing, where's your?
[Chris:] This is for the son's bedroom?
[Madge:] Well it, when he, she originally wanted him to do plans to make the third bedroom bigger which would of been like an L shaped bedroom
[Chris:] Mm.
[Madge:] but he recommended to her to actually make it into a fourth bedroom because it would increase the value of the house
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Madge:] and also
[Chris:] So where they gonna put the, the other bedroom?
[Margaret:] At the side.
[Madge:] At the side, so, but she's not having a garage or anything at the side, she's having a side extension down below, but the front bit she's having made into a shower room and then the back bit it's gonna be like a morning room to the kitchen
[Chris:] Oh right.
[Madge:] like where you go in the kitchen you turn right, like that one of mine over there, the sink's there on the right hand side
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Madge:] well she's gonna have that knocked into an archway through to a dining room
[Chris:] Oh right, lovely.
[Madge:] so it'll be lovely
[Chris:] Mm.
[Madge:] but erm, she just get
[Jane:] So the third bedroom would go right across that extension then?
[Madge:] Yeah well that'll be their bedroom
[Jane:] That'll be the fourth fourth bedroom?
[Madge:] Well it'll be such a big room, she said it'll be, oh I don't know what she said about sixteen by twelve or summat like that
[Jane:] Yeah be lovely.
[Madge:] so her and Ma Malcolm are gonna have that and Emma will have the front bedroom
[Chris:] Come on Michael, come on.
[Madge:] and then there be the third little bedroom in the middle which Pam has as a sewing room
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] well no she has it as a toy room don't she?
[Jane:] A good idea to have a toy room like that.
[Madge:] It is really.
[Jane:] Yeah, it's great if you've got the room on the side to do it.
[Madge:] with her being in a corner Jane
[Jane:] I know.
[Madge:] she's not, I mean the next door round the corner, like she's on the corner and the house here, it's been extended on the side, but it won't bring it anywhere near Pam's extension
[Jane:] No.
[Madge:] because it's in the corner
[Jane:] Corner.
[Madge:] you know?
[Margaret:] She could do it on the back an'all, she's got a third of an acre of garden, it's bloody massive.
[Jane:] I think that's it, if you can get a house with plenty of, you know you can stay there and live for ever can't ya?
[Margaret:] Yeah you can, mm, you can do that can't ya? I just don't, hope they don't bring the rates back into bloody force, but she will be with all that land [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Mm, oh she will be won't she?
[Jane:] Mind you that's what Labour want to do don't they?
[Madge:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Well, well the Conservative, are they going to leave it as it is?
[Jane:] No, no they're just gonna
[Chris:] No they brought a new thing out, it's not the poll tax it's called something else int it? Er it's like, it's the same flaming thing really
[Jane:] But Labour want to bring back the
[Madge:] Ordinary rateable value
[Chris:] Yeah sort of more or less
[Madge:] sort of yeah, I think it'll be more means tested won't it?
[Jane:] Yes, we had the Labour candidate knocking on our door yesterday and I think John must of been in a right foul mood, cos he [LAUGHTER] he says come in and talk to me
[Margaret:] Oh my God.
[Jane:] in the end I mean normally it was the other way round, the Labour candidate couldn't wait to get out, cos you know trying to get out the door and John was
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Jane:] giving it this
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Jane:] he doesn't normally you know, but
[Margaret:] No.
[Jane:] normally they want to get in and start waffling
[Madge:] Well the bloody Conservative come er through with the er postman so I just picked it up, opened it, ripped it up and it was in bloody bin before postman got to gate... bloody Major and that Lamont, and the post together, yesterday.
[Jane:] Was that today?
[Madge:] Yesterday.
[Margaret:] I got a Liberal one through the post.
[Jane:] And then the woman, the fella from Liberal Democrats come and he goes erm, can I rely on your vote? I said no actually [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Mm, they've got the Labour and the Conservative both in same.
[Margaret:] Oh have they?
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Chris:] Have they?
[Madge:] You see I put me poster up in the window and then me flipping dad said to me I don't know whether you should have that poster up, what if Miss is around, Conservative, so I bloody took it down and put it in a magazine, I thought when we've got
[Jane:] Oh she's bound to be
[Madge:] when we've exchanged contracts I'll put it back up again, no, well I mean like whatsername across the road, you know erm Stuart's brother
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] I mean he's a rank Labour, he's got everything up there cos he was telling Mike, I mean he's got his neck in a collar and he's been waiting
[Jane:] I know.
[Madge:] for that long to go and get it sorted out
[Jane:] Oh.
[Madge:] but he's so opposed to the National Health as it is at the moment, you see Margaret a lot of these figures are being conned
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Madge:] what they're doing is like
[Jane:] What's that?
[Madge:] people like Mike
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Madge:] who've had that little, little operation like that
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Madge:] they're clearing the waiting list
[Jane:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Madge:] because they just go in in the day and they come out on the
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Madge:] same day
[Margaret:] Yeah, yeah.
[Madge:] but a more intricate type of operation, where you've got to be in for a day, they're not
[Jane:] No.
[Madge:] getting rid of those at all, they're just getting rid of
[Jane:] Replacements and
[Madge:] yeah they're they're still waiting a couple of years for them Jane
[Jane:] I know.
[Madge:] all look at that, was it next year they got, somebody got er, what er, another date and it was next Febru who was it? That girl on the telly, from Tesco
[Chris:] Yeah, yeah.
[Madge:] that we saw
[Jane:] I don't know.
[Margaret:] Well look at Billy he's waiting to have his eyes tested
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] be seen to at the eye hospital, Sir John said in January I'll send you to Altrincham because they have a specialist, go to the, like they have one go to the Cottage, each, a different like a skin one day, summat, so like you're there and you're not traipsing for the eye hospital
[Jane:] Mm.
[Margaret:] but this one goes to Altrincham er about six weeks after, July
[Jane:] Oh.
[Margaret:] but if he had sent him to the eye hospital he'd have waited two years.
[Jane:] Yeah....
[Madge:] Can't credit it and your eyes are precious aren't they?
[Margaret:] Mm, well I mean that's what they're gonna do take the eye test charge off and the teeth charge off as soon as they get in, well it'll all materialize don't they?
[Jane:] Well I hope so, does that mean I ought to wait, my appointment's the end of, oh the end of April I must just [LAUGHTER] be able to []
[Margaret:] Ooh, aye well oh what, that's what Sam over road said I mean he had open heart surgery, said I don't know what I'd of done without the National Health
[Madge:] Mm, that's it, int it you could say
[Margaret:] said I've no qualms about 'em, and yet he's, somebody that votes for bloody Green Party, eh, he's just been up and voted for Green Party, I said I'd of stopped at home if I was you
[Madge:] Er Theresa's friend she wants the hip redoing. I think it's come out
[Margaret:] You see the thing is is
[Madge:] three thousand quid.
[Margaret:] a lot of it is er propaganda by the Conservative if, if they were gonna get it right, why couldn't they get it right in the thirteen years that they've been in power?
[Madge:] Why haven't you done it in the time you've been in?
[Margaret:] He said no
[Madge:] But look look at that Denise, Pam's friend
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Madge:] the about the little boy that they think he's dead
[Margaret:] Oh yeah.
[Madge:] but she had to pay a hundred and eighty pounds in all
[Jane:] That's right, Chris was telling me.
[Madge:] so they've still got to go back in three months, she was, I hope I've not got to come back and pay, so what the
[Jane:] What they waiting to have done?
[Madge:] Something else, er, they can't determine it or something until he's a few months
[Chris:] A bit older.
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] Yeah cos he's still only a baby int he?
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Jane:] It's very difficult until they can sort of reactions a bit quicker
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Jane:] int it? Michael... what you've done?
[Margaret:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] What made me laugh was the Conservative broadcast on Wednesday was real propaganda, trying to frighten you to death that if the Labour got in
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] we'd have no nuclear weapons and
[Jane:] Oh aye yeah I know that
[Madge:] we'd be open to the Russians and all this sort of thing, it was really trying to frighten ya, what this soap box image he tries to give you know, a one man show, it's bloody path it's his voice
[Jane:] It's that smile.
[Madge:] his words no less
[Jane:] But Kinnock he was really good with Robin Day last night
[Chris:] Was he?
[Jane:] oh cos Robin Day was really trying to get him with this nuclear thing
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] he kept going on and on and on and he said do you think it was an error of judgment and he was trying to get Kinnock to say yes and he said yes it was an error of judgment the way he, he'd sort of said I think he must of said in the mid seventies, that if he got in power he'd get rid of all nuclear weapons
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] but he was saying times have changed, so cos times have changed your opinions change
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] the fact is as Russia is now
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] you know, you woul they wouldn't get rid of all nuclear weapons the Labour
[Chris:] No.
[Jane:] I mean they'd cut down on defence
[Madge:] Mm.
[Jane:] but they won't get rid of all nuclear weapons, they know it's you know you can't
[Madge:] Impossible.
[Chris:] Oh he's, he's great Kinnock, but I still don't know whether I believe
[Jane:] I don't like him.
[Chris:] but I wouldn't vote, cos I didn't like him
[Jane:] No.
[Chris:] I wouldn't vote for anybody else.
[Jane:] [shouting] No [] you shouldn't really take it on him personally
[Chris:] No.
[Jane:] should you?
[Chris:] No.
[Jane:] You should take it on what the pu you see they keep going
[Madge:] That's it.
[Jane:] on about you're gonna be worse off, nobody who earns less than twenty two thousand is going to be worse
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] off, and there's not a lot of people that I know of
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] normal people like us, whose husbands earn more than twenty two thousand.
[Madge:] how much is it a week?
[Margaret:] Well it's about four hundred pound a week int it? Over four hundred pound a week int it?
[Jane:] Yeah, what are you doing now? But they're not actually come out with that Margaret cos after tax and insurance it's a lot less
[Margaret:] Yeah....
[Jane:] but they, they would is that what, there won't be much left of it, is that what erm, they won't be in the higher tax bracket though would they?
[Margaret:] No, they'd go into the mid one wouldn't they? But it's the ones that are earning over forty thousand
[Jane:] Ooh
[Margaret:] that would go up into the forty percent
[Jane:] Yeah, so what's the next one, is there one between twenty five and forty? There isn't is there?
[Margaret:] I don't know it, he work, he was gonna work that
[Jane:] Michael
[Madge:] It's alright.
[Jane:] You sure?
[Madge:] I'll pick it up in a minute.
[Margaret:] There's something on the national insu about the national insurance as well, I can't think how he's gonna work that... because he said it is the ones that are on over forty thousand that are gonna be
[Jane:] Come on there's gonna be nothing left of that.
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Black banana.
[Jane:] No.
[Margaret:] I don't know
[Madge:] erm, do you know what we were saying the other night? How could they be short of money when everybody's always paying in money?
[Jane:] Yeah and we've got all this money from the er North Sea Gas
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Yeah, but that won't last for ever.
[Madge:] but then they said work, they won't let them, the money that they've got on council houses, they won't let them spend it you see that?
[Jane:] They won't, they won't.
[Madge:] Well what's that staying as it is for?
[Jane:] I don't know, but they won't let them do with it
[Madge:] They should let them do all the houses up with it shouldn't they?
[Jane:] They should let them buy more land and do more council building.
[Margaret:] Yeah you see they've gotta
[Madge:] They've been trying to see about that lot where the boys' grammar school is int they?
[Jane:] Yeah, yeah.
[Madge:] Because they want to sell that, but they want it to be sort of like half private
[Jane:] No.
[Madge:] and half I suppose council houses
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] cos it's quite a big plot of land that int it?
[Margaret:] It must be mustn't it?
[Jane:] Yeah....
[Madge:] But oh, I don't know, whoever gets in it'll all still be the same in years so
[Margaret:] Of course it will.
[Madge:] I can't see that it matters.
[Jane:] Michael
[Chris:] He's okay, he's only playing with them, aren't you love?
[Jane:] Until he breaks, them, he's broken two at home.
[Madge:] Has he?
[Jane:] Mm, snaps the tapes.
[Madge:] Ooh and he's such a lovely lad.
[Jane:] Oh you wouldn't of said that last night.
[Madge:] What, in the middle of the night?
[Jane:] No, last night going to bed he's been, he's been smashing until Saturday
[Madge:] You know he's been good going to bed.
[Jane:] Deana put him to bed
[Madge:] Saturday?
[Jane:] Saturday when we went out, Deana put him to bed well she was stupid enough to let Deana put him to bed
[Madge:] no wait a minute
[Jane:] of course he got all upset so she had to then mess about and try and get him to sleep, which apparently she did
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] but he must of been all worked up and since then I've had a right struggle, most nights
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] I've had to go back up in to him, yeah, but I don't know what happened last night, I don't know whether he was not quite tired enough, erm, he must of got up as soon as I put him down and started sort of moaning then I went into the girls and I sorted them out he started screaming he did, so I had to go to him in and lay him down and making him lay down
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] and he was starting sobbing and he got that upset, in the end
[Madge:] He started screaming.
[Jane:] you know real, I've never heard him do that before.
[Margaret:] Aye, they can do that sobbing.
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] So erm, anyway I went back in to him, I kept going up and down, I left him for a while, but he doesn't normally cry like that
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] so er
[Madge:] Ee, ee.
[Jane:] eventually I went up and I tried to get him to go down to sleep again, and he was shutting his eyes and on his dummy, but he was [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] If they get that worked up, they can't calm down can they?
[Jane:] No
[Margaret:] No.
[Jane:] so I thought I couldn't, I couldn't let him go to
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] sleep while he was like that so I picked him up and took him back downstairs again,
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] He knows he's doing this thing.
[Chris:] Is it, do you think it might be as well that it's a bit lighter Jane, cos I was reading a smashing tip
[Margaret:] Oh yeah.
[Chris:] in one of me magazines to blacken your curtains out, cos I thought I'm gonna do that on Joanne's
[Jane:] Yeah I don't
[Chris:] you know she moans, somebody suggested if you've got a curtain and you've got like you, a liner behind it
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] to fasten a black bin bag
[Jane:] Oh yeah, yeah.
[Chris:] between the curtain and the liner
[Jane:] Yeah I put a over his
[Chris:] and it completely blacks over it was dark
[Jane:] when it was dark
[Chris:] but no, you know it does start getting lighter and you're gonna have problems then, you might try that cos you could, you've got liners on them curtains haven't ya?
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] Open up er, er a, a bin liner and pin it in between the two
[Jane:] In between the two.
[Madge:] Oh that's a good idea.
[Chris:] so it's completely black.
[Jane:] Blacks it out.
[Chris:] Blacks it out.
[Jane:] It is a good idea.
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] I didn't, it was so cold yesterday, we'd been out in the morning and I decided to put him in his cot, on the odd occasion I do, do, he's gone to sleep without any problems
[Chris:] Mm.
[Jane:] but yesterday morn he was, yesterday morning he started crying didn't he, I didn't leave him for any length of time
[Chris:] No.
[Jane:] I brought him downstairs give him his dinner and then I put him to sleep in his pram in the front room, but I think that'd also er
[Chris:] Yeah, yeah.
[Madge:] Upset him.
[Jane:] so I just hope, it's so annoying though, you'd just give him a cuddle, lay him down and that was it, that was all
[Madge:] I know, so I mean the thing is that we've always said haven't ya as long as you can sort of get 'em down
[Jane:] Mm.
[Margaret:] Yeah
[Madge:] to go to sleep so you can have a
[Margaret:] at least you've got some free time.
[Madge:] on your own, you can cope with waking up in the night can't ya?
[Jane:] Ten o'clock before I put him upstairs.
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Cos you lose your patience.
[Madge:] What was wrong with ya?
[Chris:] Oh she's so calm.
[Jane:] No I'm not too bad really.
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] I lost me paddy with Stacey I must admit, cos he's by then screaming, I did get a bit cross last night
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] cos he's throwing a wobbly at the cot, he's thrown all his dummies out and Stacey comes out the door, I just wanted to leave him cos he's just, before he was ready and that
[Margaret:] No.
[Jane:] I was up there, stood on the landing where he couldn't hear me and couldn't see me I was
[Margaret:] No.
[Jane:] sort of just waiting to see what he was gonna do and then Stacey comes out, I can't sleep and I said get back in [LAUGHTER] that bloody bedroom [] oh dear
[Margaret:] What was that? over the road with Sam?
[Madge:] Er his mother, you know the one that works in Woolworths?
[Jane:] Yeah, yeah.
[Madge:] They've had him from the Wednesday, was it the Wed er, no from the Saturday to the Wednesday cos she was working and they took him on to seaside somewhere and when come home, he's having stitches in his head where he'd fell, he hit it on the stone or summat and I said oh did he enjoy it apart from that, she said he was a swine last night, he was screaming and hitting me and she called her husband down from work, she couldn't control him, said she should of smacked his arse and put him in the cot.
[Chris:] Mind you I've heard them shouting at him.
[Margaret:] Oh it's awful.
[Jane:] How old is he?
[Madge:] He was two last Christmas, he's lovely an'all, but you see it doesn't take much to get out of a routine.
[Jane:] It does come nice after Christmas, Christmas it got him all out of plonk
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Jane:] cos you know he was that shattered he was falling asleep downstairs before I put him in his cot, so it was a case then of putting him to sleep in his cot
[Margaret:] Mm.
[Jane:] and even in the middle of the night on the odd occasion that he sort of disturbed a bit, I just used to shout to him
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Jane:] lay down and go back to sleep and, sometimes he would.
[Margaret:] Yeah.
[Madge:] Oh, she's very lucky that a child of that age had gone, I mean she don't see his, his nana that much
[Jane:] No.
[Madge:] really, to have him from
[Jane:] Mm.
[Madge:] er what was it? Yeah the Saturday to the Wednesday
[Jane:] Aye.
[Margaret:] d'ya know she's still at Woolworths? I told ya
[Jane:] Mm.
[Margaret:] it was that bit of
[Madge:] Ta.
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] is she there?
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] Not seen her since
[Madge:] Ta.
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Margaret:] I mean cos there's time when to stay open late weren't it?
[Jane:] And she didn't want to do it.
[Margaret:] And she said I'm, I'm I'm not staying she said, I think it was New Year's Eve, she said I'm walking out so I might have no job, so I've not seen her since, so Madge said she's still there, that's in Altrincham int it?
[Madge:] Mm yeah that's how she's just
[Margaret:] but he keeps going up to the gnomes and saying hello is that [LAUGHTER] no he come home the other night and the, we, no the other day Sam he tipped all the bloody soil out of the earth and done something else, he said he's a naughty boy and she's said to Sam he wants a smacking he said I'm not smacking him
[Madge:] Oh well he wouldn't do that.
[Jane:] He wouldn't do that would he?
[Chris:] She should tell him.
[Margaret:] and he's never got a nappy on him, he's like this
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[Margaret:] it's swinging all the time he's looking at
[Madge:] what is it, you doing a Josh? Mike came down yesterday morning, mind you he had been on his own quite a lot, a lot of time yesterday for the day Josh, cos I went to Altrincham with me mum at half nine and it, I'd taken him out for a walk to make sure he'd had his walk and Mike didn't get up till gone half two and when he come down he'd cut a report of Lisa's on the floor
[Margaret:] Oh.
[Madge:] they call it achievement you know they call it record of achievement
[Jane:] Oh God, yeah.
[Madge:] but fortunately I put it in a folder so the folder was destroyed
[Margaret:] But the
[Madge:] but the thing that he was
[Margaret:] was alright
[Madge:] actually caught with, I think he was just starting on that when Mike come down, er but, he got it out this magazine rack because it was at the back of there I put it, cos it's this year's the others I've got upstairs in a drawer
[Jane:] And he ferreted it out.
[Madge:] he ferreted it out, but I, you know I said to Mike well if er, if he's only chewing the paper
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] I mean he could start on the
[Margaret:] Of course he could, he's not bad really.
[Madge:] Yeah, I found, only because I went out one night, and, it was when Mike was still next door and what I'd done I'd locked him in the back room and he said he was howling
[Jane:] Oh.
[Madge:] he doesn't, he doesn't like being cooped up
[Margaret:] In one room.
[Madge:] so if I leave the doors open
[Margaret:] Oh he's so good.
[Madge:] he can wander about you see and jumps up on the furniture and looks through
[Jane:] Careful.
[Madge:] the window and what have you, you know?
[Jane:] Yeah good lad.
[Margaret:] You're a good lad aren't ya?
[Madge:] You see that's where I really
[Jane:] Aren't you? Aren't you?
[Madge:] I've got that burglar alarm over there, but I don't think I'd ever be able to use it
[Margaret:] You mean with the dog being loose
[Jane:] You want your socks on? Do you want some more? Ask Chris for some.
[Margaret:] or is it only to do with doors opening?
[Madge:] Well this is what I'll have to, we'll have to find out, I've not really gone into detail about it, I think it might be actually because it's er you, you've got two things
[Margaret:] When you open the front door
[Madge:] on a, on a thing haven't they? And they, if you go to it, I forget how it is, but that's how Jane's is, so
[Margaret:] Now, if you go through the door you've got so many seconds to get to the box to turn it off.
[Madge:] That's right, yeah.
[Jane:] Ours the same.
[Margaret:] Yeah, and there's a panic button at the front door and there's a panic button upstairs
[Jane:] What is it?
[Chris:] Ah good lad, good lad.
[Margaret:] Come on Josh.
[Chris:] That was Diet Vimto.
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER]
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Oh I didn't like the taste of that.
[Chris:] Didn't ya? Oh I like it
[Madge:] No.
[Chris:] and Lisa, I get it for Lisa she likes it.
[Jane:] It seems to have a bit of a different taste.
[Chris:] Where is it? Is it up there?, in your bag up there I think Marg?
[Margaret:] Did you put it in the bag?
[Chris:] Oh, yeah I think I did.
[Madge:] You put it over there.
[Jane:] no I put it back up there.
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER] Josh... [LAUGHTER] has Josh licked it? what was it like? He needs to be thinner, he's like a bloody dustbin ain't he?
[Madge:] Your mum said he was eating enough
[Chris:] I give him two barm cakes and we had one each and before we'd finished, started our second half of our one, he'd ate the two, give him a custard and he'd ate it in two mouthfuls, she said did you take
[Jane:] So did you enjoy that custard?
[Chris:] No wonder he don't get indigestion
[Jane:] Two int it?
[Chris:] he's such a gulper.
[Jane:] Oh.
[Madge:] See you next week Chris.
[Chris:] Okey-doke ma.
[Madge:] See you next week now.
[Margaret:] right
[Jane:] cos I'll see you again then Margaret
[Margaret:] tarrah Jane
[Jane:] take care.
[Margaret:] bye bye Michael
[Jane:] Say bye bye, say bye bye.
[Margaret:] bye.
[Jane:] Well wave bye bye then.
[Margaret:] He's too busy licking his lips. [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Where'd you get them braces from?
[Margaret:] Tarrah
[Madge:] Tarrah.
[Margaret:] tarrah Bill
[Madge:] They're lovely aren't they?
[Jane:] Mm, they'll last him for a long, long time.
[Chris:] Yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Oh, where you going, mm?
[Madge:] To work?... Did you know
[Chris:] yes, you were saying
[Jane:] I just hope that I've plugged it in properly.
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[Chris:] Oh it's going great guns that... I've got Len coming
[Madge:] I'll take it home well and you can have, well there'll be nowt bloody said at our house after five o'clock so you don't
[Chris:] I've got Len coming round at half past twelve
[Jane:] you'd just gone, it's a wonder you didn't see her coming round the bloody corner.
[Chris:] Was this Wednesday?
[Jane:] Wednesday, I'd got Michael outside in the pushchair, coat on and I think I'd just come down from the loo and I saw the car pull up [LAUGHTER] I quickly ran and got me coat on [] oh I, I'll come with you she said, so she come shopping with me.
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] Who was this?
[Jane:] Er, erm
[Chris:] This is a friend she's a d she's a nice girl isn't she Jane?
[Jane:] She is a nice girl
[Chris:] But she's got problems a bit like
[Jane:] Pat erm
[Chris:] what I used to have with Betty
[Madge:] Oh.
[Chris:] you know one of those
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Chris:] that you want to really help them and you feel dead sorry for them
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] but no matter what you say you still end up doing what they want
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] and whatever....
[Jane:] She's very weak, I think that's what it is
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] she knows what she wants to do and what she should do, but she just can't
[Chris:] Nah.
[Jane:] seem to be able to do it.
[Chris:] Nah.
[Jane:] Still the same now.
[Chris:] Is she? Shame.
[Jane:] other day when she locked herself out no matter what what you suggested how she got in that, oh no you can't have that, well she kept coming and she kept aren't I a silly bitch, aren't I silly bitch Bill, and he looked she was taking the mickey out and he said well what, what's your daughter's name, she said Jane, as if he was puddled he said no what's that name? Anyway she, some bugger, you know Sue? That er that's got the greengrocers, she got to know her daughter's phone number and phoned round for her
[Madge:] Ta.
[Jane:] well it didn't matter what you suggested yes, that's what the lads were
[Chris:] no wonder it was, me dad was trying to get her into the house and everything and she said oh well so and so's got me key well I said I'm not bloody phoning er their Nora
[Jane:] He rang.
[Madge:] He rang?
[Bill:] Er are you talking about Nora?
[Madge:] Well this girl she's got two children at and Nora's got in with her, but her husband is an Iranian so she goes over to Iran every now and again, she's got a key, I said I'm not phoning to bloody Iran for you Nora.
[Bill:] She's got a sister in Urmston, that's about
[Madge:] A daughter.
[Bill:] a daughter, what's er, what's her number the daughter, oh I don't know her number... I said well what's her name it'll be in the book, she said it's Jane
[Madge:] It's Jane I said
[Bill:] er, it got that bad that I thought she was taking the piss out of me.
[Jane:] Yeah, did she get in in the end?
[Madge:] You could, could the window tre the cleaner get through that window he said yes, but she'll have to, he'll have to force it, she said oh I don't want it forcing, no, somebody at the shop in the greengrocers rooted through the phone book, eventually got her daughter's phone number in Urmston, phoned for her and her daughter come down
[Bill:] Urmston's not in our book you see.
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] No it's not no.
[Madge:] No.
[Bill:] I said I'll go round the back and I said I can get in through that window for ya, I said well I'll have to force it, what d'ya mean force it? I said I'll have to prise it open oh no, no
[Madge:] No, no, no no.
[Bill:] I said well do you know anybody with a good?
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER] Oh blimey.
[Madge:] Do you know Nora, Nora?
[Jane:] No I don't think
[Madge:] In er Ashdon?
[Jane:] No.
[Madge:] Mind she's very lonely, she's on her own you know and she'll talk to anybody
[Jane:] Mm.
[Madge:] you can guarantee it she goes to shops about eleven o'clock, she don't come back till one because she's been talking on shops, that's her routine you know?
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] Very lonely, it's a shame, very, very good-natured as well
[Jane:] Well where does she live, in Ashdon village?
[Madge:] No, up our road
[Jane:] Oh.
[Madge:] er third one from the top... gingery er talks a lot you know, gingery hair, nice girl, but as I say er... funny girl...
[Jane:] Mm... my John was in Sale on Saturday when he ran into John he was telling him about his
[Madge:] Oh I
[Jane:] yeah, telling John all about his erm, he had an accident at work or something...
[Madge:] Well I don't know Jane, I don't really listen to any gossip up that end, you know what I mean?
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] But he's er, got a nice little girl
[Jane:] Has he?
[Madge:] Yeah fortunately
[Jane:] He's still there then John?
[Madge:] Oh aye Sandra yeah, he lives in
[Chris:] Oh does he?
[Madge:] Mm.
[Jane:] John er bumped into him on Saturday
[Chris:] Oh yeah.
[Jane:] and he was showing him his arm, apparently he got erm
[Madge:] Yes he did Jane he had an accident.
[Jane:] trapped into er a machine
[Chris:] Oh.
[Jane:] at work, I don't know where he was working
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] and pulled him into the machine and made a right mess of his arm.
[Chris:] Oh God.
[Jane:] Apparently he's had to have plastic surgery on his arm
[Madge:] Yeah he showed us.
[Jane:] so, yeah, mm.
[Chris:] He'll get some compo for that.
[Jane:] He's waiting for a claim going through.
[Madge:] So what does he do Jane now?
[Jane:] He's a taxi driver part-time.
[Madge:] I think you mentioned it once about taxi driving
[Jane:] Yeah and he, but he works for somebody else full-time, I can't think who he said it was now.
[Madge:] Oh Serlison High, I cut through there going to, when I'm going to work.
[Chris:] Why they got a little house down there
[Jane:] There's loads for sale down there, they're quite nice little houses cos Eileen used to work at
[Madge:] Oh give it to down there
[Chris:] Nora's brother's got one.
[Jane:] Yeah, have I got to buy you a bottle of Vimto?
[Chris:] Oh he seems to like it don't he Jane?
[Madge:] but er Eileen she's got four of them, you know, Margaret was living with that lad for ten years weren't she?
[Jane:] I know.
[Madge:] They got married and they've been together and apart for, ever since they've got bloody married
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] then there's Ellen, don't how the bloody hell she lives so or what have you
[Jane:] There's only Anthony and he seems pretty normal, yeah.
[Madge:] He's stuck with that girl I say cos I mean she's a lot older than he is, but they're stuck together... yeah, cos Carol must be near my age...
[Jane:] Blimey.
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] Every one of them she's had something with ain't she?
[Madge:] Mm, I suppose, John, how many bloody wives has he since I don't know
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] how many kids has he had by each one?
[Jane:] I say he's had half a dozen kids to each girl he's been
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] going out ain't he?
[Chris:] Mm and just think Jane if you'd of stayed with him you'd have your hands full.
[Madge:] Right, and I don't think he's even nice I don't.
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear, must of said that about him
[Madge:] Nosey hole
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER] do you like that Diet Vimto then Michael?
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[Chris:] Hiya
[Jane:] He must have something though because I mean there's another
[Chris:] Aye, very young int she? Josh for younger girls, they must think it keeps them young.
[Madge:] Yeah, but he he doesn't acknowledge those children to Ellen, don't he, don't even acknowledge 'em, he's walked past them in our road and never acknowledged them.
[Jane:] How can you do that to your own kids?
[Madge:] Yeah and our Lisa's bloody bad as well.
[Jane:] Is she?
[Madge:] You know they make me laugh with Eileen they want to think back when she, how she cheated on John her
[Jane:] Did she?
[Madge:] Oh Christ she was the talk of the bl that was bloody disgusting that, oh aye.
[Jane:] Mm.
[Madge:] Folk they forget that, you know what I mean?
[Jane:] Mm, and she's got the audacity to have a go at other people.
[Madge:] Mm.
[Jane:] I remember she had a go at me once, I was leading Margaret astray according to Eileen
[Madge:] Oh aye oh Christ, my oh Margaret had Eileen like that Jane with what Margaret mother, she daren't open her mouth to er Margaret because Margaret had copped her
[Jane:] Had she?
[Madge:] Oh aye.
[Jane:] How long ago? How old was she?
[Madge:] Oh so long before John and I, but er, oh no they all had her under the thumb.
[Jane:] Michael stop it....
[Chris:] He was such a nice bloke John was.
[Madge:] Oh he was a lovely man I think John knew you know, I mean look at Derek she still talks to him
[Jane:] Mm... I think you're in his place Michael.
[Madge:] and yet you know that night Chris, and on that bloody Wednesday night knew what was going on, every bugger knew but Margaret.
[Chris:] Mm....
[Jane:] Josh don't be a mardy
[Madge:] I'd love to be a fly on the wall about Wednesday night.
[Jane:] is it still going?
[Madge:] Ooh, every bugger's business is discussed.
[Jane:] Does Margaret still go?
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] Does she?
[Madge:] Want to know how, what's going on in our road ask Margaret
[Jane:] Ask Margaret.
[Madge:] she knows more what's going on than I do
[Jane:] Oh dear.
[Madge:] I couldn't be that bloody interested though could you?... watch out your brother's not up there Jane.
[Jane:] Mm.
[Madge:] Where is he? [LAUGHTER]
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Careful Michael
[Madge:] Eh give us a kiss, oh
[Chris:] He gives bootiful kisses don't you then lad?
[Jane:] Oh you sloppy hap'orth.
[Chris:] Oh eh Josh you got mm, what's Josh doing?
[Madge:] Eh between you and me, Alan isn't with her according to Margaret.
[Chris:] Oh so don't say anything.
[Madge:] No.
[Chris:] She keeps trying to girlfriend, Anthony's girlfriend, but I won't
[Jane:] He's here with Michael.
[Chris:] they're both on window ledge
[Jane:] Come here and have a look.
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh, oh [] what you looking at?
[Jane:] They're both looking through the window [LAUGHTER], aren't ya?
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER] Come on in then, come on, have you drunk that drink all again? That's two big cupfuls you've drank, good lad... good lad, he's drank another cupful of that Jane
[Jane:] Oh blimey, you have got a spare nappy here somewhere haven't you?
[Chris:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Or you do have
[Chris:] Er, just as well I did have, yeah, God knows where anything is now what, what you have to do with that now eh Jane do you know what? Mike rang the solicitor up yesterday and he said that he was sending out the contracts to us
[Jane:] Yes.
[Chris:] that he just received them like, about half an hour before Mike rang up, so he said I've got to get me secretary to type them out and then we, I'll send them to you and we've got to sign 'em, then what happens from there?...
[Jane:] Once you've signed the contracts?
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] You've got to have a witness, haven't you, sign it in front of somebody? Is that the one, no?
[Chris:] I don't think
[Jane:] Send it back and it should be pretty soon after that isn't it?
[Chris:] Well he said Mike must have said, what has been holding it up if I, we were under the impression that when she left London, she was finished with her property
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] cos it was put in the hands of Black Horse by Miss
[Jane:] That's right.
[Chris:] and they were dealing with it
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] well seemingly it must be as simple as that
[Jane:] No.
[Chris:] so she's been dealing with her Manchester solicitors and a London solicitor
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] so this is what's been holding everything up.
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] So Mike must, said to him well, the thing is well we wanted to really get in before Easter
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] so he said you don't have to move on a Friday cos Mike said well do we have to move Friday? So he said oh no you can choose any day of the week.
[Jane:] That's right, yeah.
[Chris:] I suppose it's mutual agreement?
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] I mean we'll move any day, but it's whether Miss will you see
[Jane:] Yeah, the only reason most people choose a Friday is because they get you over the weekend
[Chris:] They get you over the weekend yeah, so erm, we'll just have to see what happens and have, just have the contracts out.
[Jane:] Yeah, it should be a week then, shouldn't it?
[Chris:] Hopefully, er what did you say five working days?
[Jane:] It's normally five working days, yeah.
[Chris:] Mm, mm, you see, cos even if we sort of made it for like the middle of next week, er, no not next week, the week after
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] would bring us like the Wednesday, that would be my birthday actually the Wednesday
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] but it'll make it Easter weekend
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] we'll, we wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind doing that
[Jane:] No.
[Chris:] because it'd give Mike an extra few days anyway, could actually have
[Jane:] Get settled.
[Chris:] the Wednesday off... and all the following week
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] which would give him a good break really to get a few things done.
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Madge:] Well it'll all be
[Chris:] I'm not doing any, I'm, I'm, all this bloody panicking about getting a flaming gas fire sorted out and getting a carpet done, I'm not, not bothering, we'll just have to rough it for a while.
[Jane:] Let 'em rough it for a week.
[Chris:] Mm, we'll rough it for a while, because I know the downers, the only thing that Mike wants to do is put the fence and the gate up the side
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] which Don said we could do
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] to sort the dog out really
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] but everything else we can sort, getting there, it's not as if we're gonna need a bloody fire is it Jane?
[Jane:] Not really.
[Chris:] I mean do you find you, you use your fire more?
[Jane:] We have been doing over the past few nights
[Chris:] Have ya?
[Jane:] because I've been turning the heating, it's the
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] I don't know, from tea time it seems to warm up the house
[Chris:] Mm.
[Jane:] and it's boiling hot
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] from sort of eight o'clock so I could
[Chris:] Then it cools off
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] don't it?
[Jane:] So I just put it on just to tick
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] the room over really... but I mean if you can keep your heating on for that little bit of length of time
[Chris:] Mm, that's what I'll do I don't think we'll use the fire that much, I mean we, I, did I put it on? No I didn't put it on last night, but I did leave me heating on, it clicks off at nine o'clock, but the house was warm
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] and we went to bed anyway
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] just gone ten.
[Jane:] That's what, I mean we used to turn ours off of about nine, half nine and like you say it just used to tick
[Chris:] Mm.
[Jane:] over till about eleven, you could just feel it cooling down
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] but, because I've been knocking it off that bit earlier
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] sort of five minutes
[Chris:] And how have you fi I think we're gonna end up like with a fire like yours to be honest, because we don't want to alter that fireplace if we can help it
[Jane:] No, it's ever so nice.
[Chris:] because we do like it
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] and we thought well one night, I mean it's a bloody big radiator in that room
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] which I think would be enough
[Jane:] You wouldn't you'd probably find that you would use it half a dozen times through the year.
[Chris:] Yeah, yeah.
[Jane:] No I won't get rid of mine.
[Chris:] Have you sort of not, I suppose you haven't found out money- wise what it's costing ya?
[Jane:] No, not really I should imagine it's not, I don't know you see, we don't, we'd of had the heating on anyway
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] so I don't suppose it's cost us any more
[Chris:] No.
[Jane:] because we've hardly had it on.
[Chris:] Mm.
[Madge:] Still you
[Chris:] You do find it warm don't ya?
[Jane:] I do, yeah,
[Chris:] Have you got a couple of settings on yours is it a high and a low?
[Jane:] Well I've just got high and low that's all.
[Chris:] But I mean it'll give you er a wattage er, whatever it is
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] it pumps out anyway?
[Jane:] well I suppose so, I don't know what we've got.
[Madge:] The
[Chris:] yeah, because as I say something like what Jane's got would fit in that fireplace, just right
[Jane:] Mm.
[Madge:] Mm.
[Chris:] which like I say saw one up at erm... I told you that fireplace shop on the corner, mind you I think we'll get Edwards in, he had some in about a hundred and sixty quid or so
[Jane:] You should start looking round.
[Chris:] erm I mean really ideally Mike would like one of those that actually fits perfectly
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] in, in the fireplace
[Jane:] I know what you mean.
[Chris:] and it's got a back to it
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] and it sort of throws the heat out into the room.
[Jane:] Yeah, yeah.
[Chris:] Well I could, it could, it wouldn't justify it.
[Jane:] But Chris I can't see them I can't see them making a fire like that that your heat's gonna go all up the chimney, no way.
[Chris:] No, but what I'm saying is
[Jane:] Josh come on
[Chris:] if there wasn't
[Jane:] come on Josh, Josh
[Chris:] if there wasn't a good amount of radiator in that room
[Jane:] Josh
[Chris:] it would justify having a fire like that
[Madge:] Come on
[Jane:] Yeah, yeah.
[Chris:] but because it's got such a good
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] Radiator.
[Chris:] you know cos I told you Mike actually fancies one of these that actually fits right in the fireplace
[Jane:] I know what you mean next door
[Chris:] and there's a backing to it and it pumps it out into the room, they're dead hot
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] but I don't think this room needs it Jane.
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] I think it'll be a waste, and I don't want to go to the expense of
[Jane:] Well they are bloody expensive.
[Chris:] because
[Madge:] It slipped [LAUGHTER]
[Chris:] I think the fires are about three hundred quid
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] but it's not that, you'd have to have a lot of the fireplace ripped up.
[Jane:] Mm you would
[Chris:] Yeah.
[Jane:] it's only a little square.
[Chris:] Yeah, we'd have to have the pillars taken off
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] and everything like that, so all that would have to be redecorated.
[Jane:] Whereas like that one of ours, it'd be ideal wouldn't it?
[Chris:] It be it just work right
[Jane:] Must have your chimney swept.
[Chris:] That's what I want to get that number off you for that as well because I some would suggest anyway
[Jane:] I got it somewhere yeah.
[Chris:] wouldn't he?
[Jane:] I got it somewhere, I'll root it out for ya and I forgot to see Hilda about that
[Madge:] Michael shout Mike
[Chris:] There's no rush for it.
[Madge:] Michael shout louder
[Jane:] she's gone on holiday now.
[Chris:] you know, some time
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] if you think about it.
[Madge:] Mike
[Jane:] Funny enough I saw her yesterday
[Madge:] in a minute or two
[Jane:] and she started talking about putting the freezer in the back garden
[Bill:] Is it worth my taking a coat on?
[Jane:] and that
[Chris:] Oh.
[Jane:] and it just slipped my mind.
[Chris:] Well just any time, we won't be doing nothing until the end of May anyway.
[Madge:] Michael, Michael shout Mike
[Jane:] As soon as she comes back I promise I'll ask her
[Madge:] Mike, shout Mike, Mike
[Chris:] But what would you, see Edward said
[Madge:] shout Chris
[Chris:] when we decided we want something he'll come down and
[Jane:] Be careful
[Chris:] sort it all out.
[Jane:] sort it out
[Madge:] shout Chris
[Chris:] Hopefully we can get away with that room Jane with just maybe having to emulsion it
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] because I mean once you've taken all the pictures down, I think it did need it
[Jane:] She's a smoker int she? That's
[Chris:] very much.
[Jane:] Yeah that'll be your main thing then.
[Chris:] Rather than decorate I think we'll just
[Jane:] Paint it.
[Chris:] er emulsion over it and maybe put a border around the picture frames.
[Jane:] This is in the back room?
[Chris:] Front room.
[Jane:] Mm.
[Chris:] Yeah, leave the front room, we'll have to, first week or so we'll have to live in that back room
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Chris:] until we've got
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Jane:] Mike, Michael shout Chris, he does say Chris
[Madge:] It's quite an easy one that, int it?
[Jane:] say Chris, it's not that he can't though Madge, he just won't
[Madge:] No.
[Jane:] I've heard him say Deana and Stacey
[Chris:] Mm.
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] loads of times, he does moan mumma now he does that quite a lot
[Madge:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] but that is the only thing he says da, oh no
[Chris:] Catch this.
[Jane:] you'd better not have that had ya? Had enough at the Chris, Mike, Michael, da, da, shout Chris, where's Chris, where's Chris... Chris... shout Chris... Chris, Chris, Chris
[Bill:] Ah good boy, come on...
[Jane:] most people I've talked to their little lads have been two before they started talking, seems to be very slow
[Madge:] Yeah, boys are a bit like that mind he walked pretty quick didn't he, he can't
[Jane:] He's done everything very early really.
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] Thing is he understands everything you tell him Madge
[Madge:] Oh aye.
[Jane:] I mean me friend come and picked up her two girls and her little lad, he's thirteen months, leave it, oh his dummy, erm, good boy, and his slipper come off his shoe, he only tried, the little'un to ram this slipper on, he understands everything you tell him
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] telly off, telly on, give him a book and he'll put it on top of the telly, goes to the [LAUGHTER]
[Madge:] He did to Margaret, she said where's me umbrella? He went and brought it back in.
[Jane:] Yeah, he does he understands everything
[Madge:] Mm.
[Jane:] but he just won't say it, not a thing...
[Madge:] Oh you going bo-bos? You going bo-bos? [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Saying that to him last night, go back upstairs in your cot
[Madge:] Oh it's terrible int it? Dead oh our Linda was the one, you'd get her settled down and you know what it, if you as much as turned the light switch off
[Jane:] She'd wake up.
[Madge:] Oh she was terrible.
[Jane:] He's alright like that, last night, once he went to sleep I sort of like staying around in his room for a couple of minutes, but I, went and opened you know, sort, sorted the curtains out and
[Madge:] Mm.
[Jane:] once he's asleep that's it
[Madge:] Yeah.
[Jane:] and I think it's just getting him that way, come on shall we put your
[Madge:] our Linda was the most terrible child
[Jane:] Really?
[Madge:] she never slept and our Edmond used to be worn out...
[Jane:] It does get you down actually.
[Madge:] Oh aye that's why we moved from our house she had me up, had played bloody hell over it, no bugger was getting no sleep
[Jane:] Aye.
[Madge:] so we went out and bought that house in Maddors Road
[Jane:] Oh.
[Madge:] that's how she first got that
[Jane:] Ee, ee, ee
[Madge:] I can remember having when she went in to have our Pam and er I thought on the Wednesday afternoon had a bloody good walk round
[Jane:] Tire her out.
[Madge:] I was that knacked not her, bright as a button, she still didn't sleep that bloody night, she's a swine, Linda wasn't very old when Pam was born was she?
[Chris:] About fifteen months...
[Jane:] Ra, ra, ra, ra... come here... fasten you up, chin, chin, chin, chin, chin, chin chimney, come here... er, stand up... what, oh dear, there, right where's your ha...
[Chris:] But I'm used to wearing black, oh here he is, he's got his without the trouble
[Madge:] Are you going skiing? Are you going skiing?
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lynn:] And so she said oh I want to see that, d'ya mind if I come with you cos I don't want to go on me own, so... and then we arrived, mum arrived first and, I said you don't mind Naomi coming do you?
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] well if I'd known enough company she said, I'd have been at home with me feet up you know
[Jane:] But your mum wanted to see the film did she?
[Lynn:] Well obviously she didn't really
[Jane:] Mm,
[Lynn:] anyway to me on the way out, oh I really enjoyed that and we were crying our eyes out.
[Jane:] so she's glad she went in the end?
[Lynn:] Mm... the last sort of six months
[Jane:] Mm that'll be nice won't it? So you perked her up a bit
[Lynn:] Well
[Jane:] so when are you going away?
[Lynn:] I don't know I've got nothing to wear, you know I mean there's
[Jane:] When's the kids going out tonight?
[Lynn:] Mm, when I've dropped them I won't see them now till Sunday
[Jane:] You've dropped them off from, straight from school?
[Lynn:] Mm, mm and no, I dropped them off this morning, that's it, he's picking them up
[Jane:] Oh right he picks them up from school
[Lynn:] and then
[Jane:] Jenny got some clothes at class and everything
[Lynn:] dropped at erm took the suitcase, gonna leave it at, with
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] nanny's down the road, but Carl was in this morning so I dropped it off to him... it's gonna be a long time
[Jane:] Mm, is that normally how it is from Fridays?
[Lynn:] No it's normally from Saturday morning till Sunday morning... I just think we'll end up going for the day [clears throat] but he said, he's got Gerry coming up from Hull to mind the shop... on Saturday, he said oh you're tired and you need a change and a rest... he said something like erm
[Jane:] Do you think he'll stay over Saturday night?
[Lynn:] then we'd have to be back for eleven, can't, I don't know what's gonna happen to the dog
[Jane:] Oh right, oh can't you take her, oh no you can't really can you? You can't... right... and you don't know what to do
[Lynn:] I tried to
[Jane:] for the best
[Lynn:] Well I do know what I want to do, but... it's knocked me for six cos I sort of felt really guilty
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] sort of you can't kick them while they're down and
[Jane:] Yeah, but you do it, it were a good time though.
[Lynn:] Mm... heard something on the radio, he said, oh will you still love me in a year's time, so I looked That's how I am, horrible to him really... it's worse than being married.
[Jane:] So when're you gonna tell him, when're you gonna do it take the bull by the horns?... Yeah I can still see you in flaming two year's time simply because you're too frightened to say anything to him, to my son. hello... you don't give yourself time to wake up before you start moaning
[Lynn:] Say not her again [LAUGHTER] oh look, he's such a cutey
[Jane:] Urgh
[Lynn:] hello
[Jane:] got a bit warm under there
[Lynn:] I was gonna say he's got rosy cheeks
[Jane:] I know, it's alright when the sun's out, but when the sun goes in it's freezing so I've had his plastic
[Lynn:] Mm
[Jane:] he was a little git last night. Well no just screaming at the top of his voice, our Ben had to bring him down in the end and give him a drink and start again, even then I had to stay with him until he went to sleep
[Lynn:] Ah...
[Jane:] this all started after last weekend... Deana put him to bed didn't she? Instead of letting John's mum do it, consequently he got dead upset so
[Lynn:] Oh
[Jane:] so he was dead annoyed with it, all week I've been struggling to get him to bed...
[Lynn:] [clears throat]
[Jane:] he, he was a treat before, just used to take him up, give him a cuddle, say night-night and that was it
[Lynn:] So why did it disturb him with Deana? Is it just
[Jane:] Well I just
[Lynn:] it's not like an adult?
[Jane:] Yeah I suppose so, yeah
[Lynn:] It seems, it's comforting is it? It's the same routine
[Jane:] Yeah, of course you can't sort of cuddle him like that cos he's too heavy, I rock him you know for a, a couple of minutes, not that long, he's taken his braces off as well still do, don't ya? Mm
[Lynn:] Ah look at them...
[Jane:] there, I don't know, I don't know what you're gonna do, cos whatever it is you're not doing it, it's just letting time go by aren't ya, treading water if you like.
[Lynn:] Last night I got really upset, I did in bed and erm... he kept saying what's the matter? What's the matter? And you have and everything, yeah
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] but he'd just told me about the housing with the car and everything.
[Jane:] Is it, is he, is that right, is somebody coming down to value the house?
[Lynn:] No, just coming back home to show me the flaming car, and that's what sa I didn't but I feel dead awful really, but I didn't jump up and down
[Jane:] I'm not surprised, I'd have done me fruit, if I was going around with somebody that, that say they're gonna put the house on the market for me, want to make a go, a go of the marriage, a new baby, two other kids and then oh, but yet, yet wants to play around in a, you know a little sports car, that nobody but two people can sit in
[Lynn:] I know
[Jane:] I can't
[Lynn:] that's the weekend only and there's me
[Jane:] Well he's got so many debts Lynn it just doesn't seem right he's, he's living in cuckoo land, I mean when are you ever gonna feel secure with somebody like that?
[Lynn:] Never
[Jane:] You can't can ya?...
[Lynn:] Is there any more tea in the pot Jane at all?
[Jane:] Yeah there might be...
[Lynn:] Well thanks that was beautiful tea, sort of ready for it
[Jane:] I'm not surprised with all that dashing around, he asks such a lot of you Lynn and I can't understand why he's like that when he says he loves you and everything, and he wants
[Lynn:] I know I don't know why I'm being so bloody docile no I really have and then
[Jane:] I don't know he's gonna come a right bloody cropper
[Lynn:] I keep burning, I bet I didn't, I thought, pardon me, positive... mm I popped round, I went in yesterday I'm going to say something and then he's going on about well I've sold me car to pay the mortgage and
[Jane:] And then all he tells you is a pack of bloody lies
[Lynn:] I know
[Jane:] if he can lie that bloody easily
[Lynn:] well he, he said he, he wanted it as a surprise well it's not a surprise for me is it?
[Jane:] Yeah, but he knew you wasn't
[Lynn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] you wasn't keen on the idea anyway didn't he?
[Lynn:] Well that's right, yeah, cos then he asked me ages ago did I think he was being selfish, I said yes
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] I said, but like you tell me it's your life, mm
[Jane:] he's like a Jekyll and Hyde that bloke, I've told you before you wanna be bloody careful how it works out...
[Lynn:] and then he said to me how, how do you feel about your baby now? Not, you know, and I said okay?
[Jane:] It's going to be his baby when it's a good baby
[Lynn:] I know
[Jane:] but your baby when anything comes to actually buying for it and er looking after it I would imagine, I can't see him doing all what he says he's gonna do with it Lynn
[Lynn:] No
[Jane:] Oi you, he's playing with your
[Lynn:] Oh let's have a, is it in there?
[Jane:] no... right, we'll have another cup of tea and then we'll have that nice cake
[Lynn:] Right... look at you, eating all your crisps... look it's going to rain
[Jane:] I'm gonna go and bring my pushchair in then before it does, are you taking that with ya? Or just
[Lynn:] Yeah, I'm going to, I'm just working out
[Jane:] I'll be back in a tick
[Lynn:] mm, mm...
[Jane:] So you've still got your other have ya that Alice had?
[Lynn:] Mm, well it's at erm Carl's and
[Jane:] Yeah... but you could use it like when mind you, you might be pleased with it when it's
[Lynn:] Mm, I'm damn sure I will, I quite like doing things like that
[Jane:] Yeah
[Lynn:] very [LAUGHTER] but they remember which one... I did, I think it was that Mothercare one... they get grubby with the things and everything and it was a sunny day and I went outside with me bucket and me felt and me scrubbing brush
[Jane:] Yeah
[Lynn:] and I just, I threw buckets of water on it to rinse it, and it dried because it was really warm and it came up like new
[Jane:] Came up like new
[Lynn:] cos you can have a real good go at the wheels that way outside
[Jane:] Yeah, outside, it's like my pram, I mean, I was, Stacey was going in hospital last year to have her adeno adenoids out and Sue was having him and I thought well, he was too big for his carrycot, but take the pram down and he's got nothing to sleep in... and er, I put him in it, it been six months since it was do well since he started using it, so I give that a good going over and the pram wheels come up lovely
[Lynn:] I know
[Jane:] you know I get a Brillo
[Lynn:] Yeah
[Jane:] and some Jif on it, but erm, it's not been done since, so when the next good bit of weather, I've got to get the pushchair out and give that a good going over
[Lynn:] And do that
[Jane:] and me pram as well
[Lynn:] I know, I fancied a big pram, but there you go...
[Jane:] Well it's, whether you've really got somewhere to put it really that's the top and bottom of it
[Lynn:] Well there's nowhere to walk to now, is there, you know
[Jane:] Well where would you, mind you I suppose like in the olden days you could only get big prams, they just had them in the living room didn't they?
[Lynn:] Yeah, well it'd just have to go in the hall, but, no, this will be better, carrycot and... that, ridiculous prices though
[Jane:] Well it is, it's different if you was, if you was starting from scratch I suppose... you know, first baby you're inclined to, you want everything new don't you with these new...
[Lynn:] Well I sort of said to him as well about, I said and it's ridiculous, just because I said the bedding had been lo in the loft
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] with the cot and everything he, he sort of er... thought it was
[Jane:] Well some lofts are lovely aren't they? I mean our loft is a right mess
[Lynn:] grotty I mean they're all in bin bags
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] they only need washing, I mean I might be wrong, they might have, they might have gone funny, but I doubt it... they've not been up there that long really only about two
[Jane:] Oh all of my stuff has been up in the loft... it's like you say, I mean if they've been double wrapped and everything and you wash them
[Lynn:] he should put his hand in his pocket really and buy something
[Jane:] Of course he should, you ought to just ask him for say a hundred, you know to buy a couple of packs of nappies and some cream and changing mat, a changing bag, you'll want all that won't you?
[Lynn:] I know a changing bag could cost sixteen
[Jane:] Fifteen sixteen pounds and then you've got another six or seven pound for a changing mat... you wanna say to him, that you know, can I have er, some money, I want to start getting us a few things together, but you, I mean, what about clothes?
[Lynn:] I know, he, he said er, he said about, plus when I mentioned the pushchair and the carrycot he said oh well, so I said yeah
[Jane:] Yeah
[Lynn:] I said that development, I said, with the bargain coming up with a
[Jane:] He alright?
[Lynn:] Yeah he's alright there... oh I just [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Ooh, you've made a right mess with them crisps young man, ain't ya? The thing is Lynn you've got to start early...
[Lynn:] Well
[Jane:] it's all part of the, of the process of getting ready for it though int it?
[Lynn:] Yeah
[Jane:] where've you got these from?
[Lynn:] Er the deli, you know in the village
[Jane:] Oh they should be nice then
[Lynn:] you might need a, get a fork to eat it with, you don't mind, you might need a fork because
[Jane:] Oh right are these of, what did you have, is that what you had before one of these with the bits of carrot on
[Lynn:] Yeah, but you might, I can't remember whether you really liked it and I thought oh
[Jane:] Oh I did yeah. So it was the deli not that other place, because there's er, a, a little cake shop int there in the village?
[Lynn:] Near where, next to
[Jane:] I know where
[Lynn:] where the new florist is?
[Jane:] Yeah, I know where the erm the delicatessen is, so you got them from there and not the other shop, cos
[Lynn:] No
[Jane:] I've been in is it
[Lynn:] it's opposite erm, yeah not Parker Radburn
[Jane:] what about Lingraves do they erm?
[Lynn:] No they've gone, it's a florist now
[Jane:] Oh really, I only went in there the other day, well the other week about a fortnight ago
[Lynn:] I know cos I know when, when I got these when I came, about two weeks ago
[Jane:] Ah
[Lynn:] they were in, I know they've been there years
[Jane:] [clears throat] You know what's done it, I suppose Parker and Radburn going in there
[Lynn:] Mm
[Jane:] and they just about managed didn't they with the?
[Lynn:] cos they sell different sort of
[Jane:] Mm, me and John had a, er one from the Spinces the other day very nice
[Lynn:] What, yeah they're oblong aren't they?
[Jane:] Yeah... you can have my, would you like my carrot? You can take it off
[Lynn:] Er will, will Michael like it?
[Jane:] No it's marzipan int it?
[Lynn:] Yeah... right, erm thank you very much
[Jane:] You like marzipan do you?
[Lynn:] Mm
[Jane:] Yuck, yuck, I like almonds and everything but
[Lynn:] You just don't like
[Jane:] I just don't like marzipan, I think it was something that to do when I was a kid to be honest
[Lynn:] They do another sort and that's really nice, it's called a nutty Vera
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER]
[Lynn:] and it looks like this but it's a similar texture, but it's a different taste, it's got walnuts on the, bit on the top
[Jane:] Oh
[Lynn:] and what it is, the man that bakes them, it's a that makes his
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] and he's related to... Vera Duckworth out of Coronation Street cos it's
[Jane:] Oh it's because
[Lynn:] something like that
[Jane:] Oh
[Lynn:] so he's done one after her, a nutty Vera.
[Jane:] I bet that's nice
[Lynn:] That's what she said anyway
[Jane:] with nuts on instead of erm
[Lynn:] Yeah... d'ya know I could drink and drink and drink... you know there only you get all the fingers caught, it's like with an ironing board int it?
[Jane:] Oh God, yeah
[Lynn:] It's like looking at another planet to a man
[Jane:] that's right... what's that? Is that marzipan?
[Lynn:] That is isn't it?...
[Jane:] Yes it is, I'll have to dig that
[Lynn:] Ah
[Jane:] and it's everything just to stop you getting at... what, well get it then... yeah, I've, I don't mind some of it, I've not had a bit of marzipan for... I don't mind these erm almond slices, I quite like them, but I think it must be the texture of the marzipan
[Lynn:] Mm, I love it, they do erm, German erm marzipan bar, chocolate bar
[Jane:] Oh aye
[Lynn:] have you ever made marzipan?
[Jane:] No
[Lynn:] I did it in the sixth form, it's really hard, it takes ages
[Jane:] Does it?
[Lynn:] That's why I would think, it's ground almonds they're expensive
[Jane:] That's right, yeah
[Lynn:] it, and it doesn't taste anything like, I mean this' ll be probably be home, nearest to homemade, but that
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] bright yellow stuff it doesn't taste like that at all
[Jane:] No
[Lynn:] it's, sort of very more of
[Jane:] Here
[Lynn:] a subtle taste, you know it need loads of ground almonds
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] just to make a small... oh...
[Jane:] That come off rather easily, would you like my marzipan?
[Lynn:] Hmm, well leave it there and I'll see how I go, cos I've had one carrot and I, sort of like, I had your carrot and I'm putting mine... quite rich though that's the thing, I quite like that bit there cos that's like brown sugar... erm
[Jane:] It's lovely
[Lynn:] Carl started me on this, he was into carrot cake for years and
[Jane:] Yeah?
[Lynn:] mm... and it's similar to a cake we used to have when he used to love erm when we were engaged he introduced
[Jane:] That's another name for it int it apparently
[Lynn:] Oh is it oh it was the same, but it was taller, and that sort of buttery cream that was all on top and that had nuts and things
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] rather than
[Jane:] we had, I told you, at this meal we went to, on Saturday they had erm carrot cake, but that was completely covered in like this cream cheese
[Lynn:] Mm sounds nice, mm
[Jane:] it was gorgeous but Chris was saying that Tescos do one, but they call it passion cake which is the same thing
[Lynn:] Oh the same, mm... like a horse today, drinking
[Jane:] Have you got a sore throat or something or just thirsty?
[Lynn:] I don't know catarrh but er... I've been thirsty the last few days... I remember we used to just fancy
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] go and buy one and dash in with a cup of tea and he [LAUGHTER] I hoped no one called and no one it's more satisfying when you're desperate for something and you get home
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] and gulp it down
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER]... You're getting in a mess Michael... do it now, have you ever tried, bought, what, you can buy it in a slab can't you, but without the cream on
[Lynn:] No I've not seen it
[Jane:] like can buy it the, just carrot cake no, no, I've only just got onto
[Lynn:] Oh
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[Jane:] There, I'm not too keen on the creamy soft piece
[Lynn:] Mm, I like that...
[Jane:] You're a mess, mm
[Lynn:] oh that's not too bad, you know
[Jane:] What were ya?
[Lynn:] One thirty over eighty
[Jane:] How much weight have you put on?
[Lynn:] Well she weighed me with me boots, er everything on and on their scales it was nine stone eight.
[Jane:] What are you doing? You're not having it
[Lynn:] I'll have me mouth round the tap in a minute
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER] not quite the same
[Lynn:] there's that bottle there where did you, is that what you meant the bottle?
[Jane:] Over there by the er red basket
[Lynn:] Oh right
[Jane:] can you see it?
[Lynn:] Yeah...
[Jane:] That marzipan on its own is filling though int it?
[Lynn:] Yeah, well I I can't eat any more... oh dear...
[Jane:] Was there enough? Oh God you've only got a little bit
[Lynn:] No I've just filled up there
[Jane:] Oh
[Lynn:] I know there must be something wrong with me
[Jane:] come on in the other room... Michael, right, now you've got your dummy
[Lynn:] [belch]
[Jane:] Oh
[Lynn:] Pardon me, hmm, ooh that's better, that's all I do is burp
[Jane:] With all that liquid I'm not surprised... can you watch him with that tin?
[Lynn:] You monkey
[Jane:] Okay
[Lynn:] monkey, monkey, moo, yeah...
[Jane:] just put some water in the sink and we'll go and sit down, I'm not bothered about washing... I just don't like it when it's stuck to the plates
[Lynn:] I know what you mean, it's harder to wash when it's
[Jane:] Mm
[Lynn:] dried on, so you might as well
[Mary:] That's it do your sweeping
[Jane:] Oh
[Mary:] that's it do your sweeping up, is it raining?
[Jane:] it's just a bit in the air, but you can tell it's going a bit damp now anyway
[Mary:] Mm...
[Jane:] what will you do, be able to go into the hotel to make your butties into your room and do it, or
[Mary:] We shall do them before we go out in the morning
[Jane:] Yeah
[Mary:] cos it's only
[Jane:] that's a good idea.
[Mary:] er, it's only er breakfast but I believe they're very good breakfasts
[Jane:] Mm.
[Mary:] er and you can have as much as you want I believe
[Jane:] Oh you can help yourself there.
[Mary:] so I said well ha, ha, gonna be cheeky
[Jane:] Get your extra bits of bacon and take 'em away
[Mary:] I'm, I'm gonna get a packet of freezer bags [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Yeah, you want to
[Mary:] and er, put one, just put one in me handbag in the morning and
[Jane:] yeah
[Mary:] if I see anything on the table I'll just pop it in a freezer bag
[Jane:] yeah, you can have it for your dinner with some, with your barm cakes can't you?
[Mary:] Yeah so I thought oh well I'll see what there is...
[Jane:] Good idea... you can have bacon and egg for breakfast and bacon butties for dinner
[Mary:] Yeah, well you never know do ya?
[Jane:] a good idea
[Mary:] Ah, ah, ah, ah, no, no, no
[Jane:] Thank you
[Mary:] where's your brush? Where's your brush?
[Jane:] Here are, there it is.
[Mary:] There it is, go and get your brush.
[Jane:] Get your brush and brush up for mummy... there... yeah these places you can get quite a good discount for being
[Mary:] Mm
[Jane:] for staying there for your dinner
[Mary:] Well I, I'd never thought of taking anything like that until she said, cos I, well you never pay, it's all new to me, I haven't done it before and she said oh no she said we take these small tins of stuff with us and er make our sandwiches, cos there's a supermarket I believe not far from there
[Jane:] Yeah
[Mary:] you can go and get some barm cakes
[Jane:] yeah that'll be nice, different
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] they have different sort of rolls to us as well don't they?
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] That'll be nice... on your travels you ought to see underneath the fridge, he does this in the kitchen and they've all gone under the fridge, when you're at the top shop or any other places where the will you have a look on the cards in the window, I'm looking for a slide, you know, but a smaller one for him for the garden for the summer really, cos that's just about had it that one...? Cos you can only use them up to about four I would think cos other, other than that they get a bit too big for them don't they?... [clears throat] he could do with a little slide in the garden...
[Mary:] he will, Christmas
[Jane:] I'd like to get it sorted out a bit for him really before the summer starts
[Mary:] It'll be ideal
[Jane:] Mm
[Mary:] if you can just fasten him in the back it'll be smashing won't it?
[Jane:] Well there's the gate, he can only go so far with the gate anyway, so it won't really matter... yeah [clears throat] yeah... you ought to see all the pegs at the back of me fridge...
[Mary:] Go and watch daddy bring the tree down? Watch it Michael, it's coming... yeah, oh you have got hiccups?
[Jane:] He's had them quite a bit these last few days, they seem to come like that don't they?
[Mary:] Mm
[Jane:] Then he'll go a month probably
[Mary:] there we are it's down
[Jane:] Oh, fence nearly came with it [LAUGHTER]...
[Mary:] it'll seem funny won't it to see that tree down?
[Jane:] I do think it's lightened this room up though when you think it gone
[Mary:] Yeah I mean it's better when you took that one from down there wasn't it?
[Jane:] Oh yeah
[Mary:] Yeah...
[Jane:] yeah... the only thing about having those others of course you can see through the windows, but there's not a lot you can do about that.... John had a word with the bloke across the back there
[Mary:] Oh did he?
[Jane:] about, you know the garage?
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] So he said he'd got no objections to John moving it back
[Mary:] Oh well... mm
[Jane:] we'll probably end up doing a bit to the garden this year as opposed to er... you know going to, we were gonna go down to Somerset in June weren't we?
[Mary:] Mm
[Jane:] But that, with things as they are we might as well just hang fire
[Mary:] Well, it's no use spending money you haven't got is it?
[Jane:] No, well the thing is I mean you're talking of five or six hundred pounds
[Mary:] This is it
[Jane:] and if you can't replace it... I mean we've booked, we've booked through, erm,Au August anyway, we're definitely going in August to Southport
[Mary:] and it might be a little bit cheaper for yourself than going all that way, it certainly won't, it certainly won't cost you as much to get there anyway
[Jane:] No, well that's it int it?... so... [clears throat]... er if things are reasonable we might just go away for a long weekend or something, go find us a place in Southport for a weekend
[Mary:] Yeah...
[Jane:] but really I mean you need the odd week at home don't you really to sort of do bits to it, you can't work and do it
[Mary:] Well I mean I'm not going away this year, but it's not really bothered me an awful lot
[Jane:] No no
[Mary:] so
[Jane:] you can't
[Mary:] gone to erm, oh I think I told you didn't I?
[Jane:] Yeah
[Mary:] Gone to Windsor today
[Jane:] that's right
[Mary:] and a day Eastbourne tomorrow, now that's a nice little break
[Jane:] Mm
[Mary:] just, just a few hours like that
[Jane:] yeah...
[Mary:] see some places you see go from Friday to Monday don't they?
[Jane:] That's alright, I think that's ideal
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] I think it's a good time to spend in the garden to be honest, I mean you can't, you can't, it's not really long enough to try and do it at weekends, not if he wants to move that garage back, it'll probably take the best part of the week to sort that out
[Mary:] Oh it will yeah, cos you've got to empty it and
[Jane:] That's right
[Mary:] move your swing haven't ya and
[Jane:] yeah
[Mary:] everything, yeah and prepare the ground
[Jane:] Yeah I don't know whether that swing will end up going to the tip if it comes down, it's a bit rusty int it?... Seen better days
[Mary:] Just depends if the frame's strong
[Jane:] Yeah
[Mary:] you know you could always put a bit of paint on it
[Jane:] mm
[Mary:] to stop the rust, it just depends if it's strong enough to hold them, the frame
[Jane:] mm, it's done well though, I mean
[Mary:] You might, you might get a little something out of it for Michael
[Jane:] Mm, we haven't got a seat on it
[Mary:] Oh dear
[Jane:] I don't know what happened to that one that granddad made Deana... I know
[Mary:] is John going to the tip with all this tree?
[Jane:] Mm... me broke as well
[Mary:] Oh God
[Jane:] it's alright having two, you never get two for twelve months
[Mary:] Oh
[Jane:] it's erm, it's not too bad this time of year, you can peg out, the legs come off it, you know that brown one that you bought me?
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] I mean I've had it since, I remember getting, washing me nappies and putting them on there
[Mary:] Oh I bought that one when Deana was a baby
[Jane:] Yeah, it was before Deana was born
[Mary:] was it before Deana was born?
[Jane:] Yeah cos I remember, I was doing hang all me nappies out
[Mary:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] before she was born, so I washed them all and put them on
[Mary:] Did ya?
[Jane:] Yeah, so that was er, eleven years ago aren't ya?
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] And it's been used constantly, so it's not done bad, it's the way, the leg's been wiggly for a while, it just broke off the other day, so, I don't know whether John can mend it, he couldn't seem to think he can
[Mary:] No they're not er, I've got one that's got a rivet come out
[Jane:] Mm
[Mary:] on this side, you know where the little piece that, that bend, that you uncatch it to fold it up
[Jane:] I know what you mean yeah
[Mary:] the rivet's come out
[Jane:] Yeah
[Mary:] and that, I find that very awkward, I've got a rubber band round it at the moment
[Jane:] yeah
[Mary:] but you see that only lasts so long they, they perish
[Jane:] yeah, done well, I might re come winter I'll probably replace it, I won't bother now it's not worth it with summer... says she having a nice summer
[Mary:] Yes, well, we're bound to have something aren't we?
[Jane:] Well I should think so
[Mary:] We're bound to have something
[Jane:] We live in hope don't we?
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER]... What are you doing? Mind you don't your tongue with that... I tell you what they had in er Woolies market as well, I don't know whether you've seen them and I don't, I've not got you know an old Argos catalogue to compare prices, cos they've not got it in the summer one, but they have them in the winter ones, it's like a, a tool box, but it's on wheels and you make it up, you, you know all the screws and the wheels come out and you're not, it's all plastic, I think it must be from age three, because of the little bits, and it's like erm, I've seen it somewhere, where I've been, it has little figures sat in this erm, what would you, it's like erm, a bit like a truck, yeah, and it's got the, the figures in it
[Mary:] I haven't I haven't actually seen one, but I once saw a lady on the bus with one
[Jane:] if it, on the bus you can see
[Mary:] it's quite a big thing isn't it?
[Jane:] Yeah, yes
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] on the box you can see it made up and then with all the bits and pieces separate
[Mary:] Mm
[Jane:] and I think it was something like, say twenty pound, it was on the market, but I have a feeling it was something like thirty odd Good boy, good boy, thank you, no we're not taking them out...
[Mary:] Ooh cheeky, you are cheeks all over your face
[Jane:] I don't think you should be chewing that one Michael cos if you, if you open it up it'll stick on your tongue
[Mary:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] int it? Yes... you think I can't see you just cos you're behind me.
[Mary:] Trying to stick it onto your jumper...
[Jane:] You'd have laughed at him yesterday with his boo
[Mary:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] cos even John, you know, I mean, he heard him it was
[Mary:] Yes
[Jane:] as clear as anything, boo he says
[Mary:] Yeah
[Jane:] and boo again and then that was it, he co he wouldn't do it again...
[Mary:] It'll perhaps come all at once
[Jane:] Yeah, he's, he's into ev... oh it must've been about six or eight weeks ago he started saying a couple of things and I thought oh he's coming now, but it stopped... I think I got excited when he started saying dark, but that's as far as it got, int it? Dark, is it dark?
[Mary:] Dark.
[Jane:] Is it dark... not dark
[Mary:] No he says it's not dark yet
[Jane:] not dark
[Mary:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] not dark
[Mary:] You're not fooling me...
[Jane:] Not fooling me... do you mind... mind you he does say mama now when he's moaning, it's definitely mama, he says now, if he wants something, mama, er, er, mama
[Mary:] your skin [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Ow that's sharp, put it in there now please, put it in for mummy
[Mary:] [LAUGHTER] Yes, he knows it's funny
[Jane:] yes, in there, in there, put it away
[Mary:] [LAUGHTER] Mine, mine...
[John:] That way they're saving money on a night out, they're gonna save on er actual depot hours, where it's like taking us sort of like ten and eleven hours, it's only gonna take them eight, nine to do that... cos they're there, they're on top of the job.
[Jane:] Mm, either way though, I mean the thing is if they do, you, you would be in for a little bit of something, if you hung it out till be, to being redundant
[John:] Yeah, but I mean it's like, it's
[Jane:] but having said that
[John:] if ifs were ands, and ands were swings
[Jane:] Yeah, then you I know, but John I mean you'd be up for a good couple of grand if you did stick it out.
[John:] I don't know.
[Jane:] You would...
[John:] Two grand's not everything Jane, you know that and I know that what, what I propose to do anyway if it's agreeable to you
[Jane:] Hand it in and see what happens.
[John:] give 'em a go, let's go and sit and listen to what the bloke says
[Jane:] Mm
[John:] and let him sit and listen to me
[Jane:] mm
[John:] he might turn round and say I'm sorry Mr you're not suitable, alright, I've not lost nothing
[Jane:] mm
[John:] you just had, you've just had a bloody, you've had a off work
[Jane:] The thing is I mean if you turn round and just say to them well they're messing about with all the hours we've put it down to the erm
[John:] Recession.
[Jane:] recession, but it's just the, I think it's just a bloody good excuse to streamline a company that's
[John:] Oh it is
[Jane:] you know I mean they, they do don't they, they overstaff and then they've got to cut back.
[John:] Look at look at Llandudno
[Jane:] Mm.
[John:] one of the factories, they're shutting it
[Jane:] Yeah but
[John:] and where're they moving it? It's going
[Jane:] yeah, but when
[John:] to Creda.
[Jane:] when was it built all them factories it was built in the seventies when the boom was in
[John:] I agree, I agree, yes I agree, that factory's old, it's out of date, it wants a lot of modifying
[Jane:] so now there's
[John:] so they've got
[Jane:] it's just a good excuse to streamline
[John:] yes
[Jane:] all the staff.
[John:] yeah, you see Creda now at are already making some of the washer driers, that Llandudno used to make.
[Jane:] Mm, what gets me is how Creda they're gonna, they're, they're coming up in the pink and
[John:] They've got job security Jane
[Jane:] But why haven't Hotpoint, the original Hotpoint drivers, I mean Hotpoint is the bigger firm
[John:] Yeah, but having saying that
[Jane:] Hotpoint take over Creda
[John:] Yeah
[Jane:] where are all Hotpoint's drivers?
[John:] it's like, yeah but it's like, it's like any big conglomeration int it, if, if I was to buy you out as a company you're gonna
[Jane:] You'd have to keep me sweet
[John:] you're, you're gonna say to him well there's conditions attached to this
[Jane:] Mm
[John:] I've, I've, those lads have served me well
[Jane:] mm
[John:] I want them looking after, and cou and you're gonna, I'm gonna say to you
[Jane:] you're gonna go to your ordinary man
[John:] I'm gonna say to you yeah, alright, I'm, I
[Jane:] thank you
[John:] you're thinking long-term, yeah I can do this and then when it, a gentleman's agreement and then it comes to paper, and when that paper's signed you're stuck with it
[Jane:] Yeah
[John:] and I tell you what, this is, this is what I think's happened
[Jane:] Probably has, yeah.
[John:] being truthful... do you know what I think'll go next?
[Jane:] What? Manchester?
[John:] the double holiday pay
[Jane:] Yeah I was thinking that actually
[John:] and the profit sharing
[Jane:] well the thing is they've
[John:] I
[Jane:] gone down anyway on the basic rate
[John:] d'ya know they've, well this is it, the profit sharing and the holiday pay as you say they've
[Jane:] yeah
[John:] d'ya know the profit sharing's up to thirty one percent, thirty one hours up to now and there's another one, another one to go in yet
[Jane:] Is that good or bad? I mean I don't know very much about
[John:] It's better than what we had at Christmas
[Jane:] How come? How come?
[John:] I don't know, but they tell us that they're not flogging anything
[Jane:] Mm, just a good excuse int it?
[John:] so who's, who's who's telling porkies here?
[Jane:] That is it John... that's it... thing I, I mean the thing that I can't understand you've, you've always been
[John:] You know I've never, I've never batted an eyelid have I?
[Jane:] No you've always done what they said alright everybody has
[John:] I've always, I might've had a little moan, but I've always to myself
[Jane:] Yeah, but everybody does, yeah but everybody has a, in your job John everybody's entitled to a bit of a moan
[John:] I've never done it in the office, I've always gone, I've always probably gone in the canteen or in the of in the, in the wagon thing
[Jane:] Mm.
[John:] bleeding hell
[Jane:] You don't have any time off
[John:] and yet I'm being nailed
[Jane:] mm
[John:] and look what he said on Friday, I wanted on main lines he said, but you're not one of them... and you're not getting a new motor
[Jane:] Is that what he said to you you're
[John:] Yeah
[Jane:] not getting a new motor?
[John:] that's what he turned round and told me.
[Jane:] Did you ask him why?
[John:] Well what can I say to him Jane, it's his property, he put, he gives the motors to who he wants, he's, he's the transport manager, I can't argue with him.
[Jane:] I know, it's not fair though is it? I'm cutting these steaks in half John, cos we've got one fatty one and one that's alright.
[John:] So... I mean, if Jane, if it's such a good job why are all these people leaving?
[Jane:] Oh
[John:] Eh? Think of it like that
[Jane:] Yeah I know
[John:] why are these higher, you know Nick who used to be in Manchester? Doing the, the mail order
[Jane:] Mm
[John:] I saw him
[Jane:] er he went didn't he?
[John:] He went to Grangewell he's running Grange now he said d'ya know something
[Jane:] For Hotpoint?
[John:] Yeah, he said it's the best move I ever made he said getting out of here
[Jane:] Manchester?
[John:] yeah, he said it's the best move I ev he said I don't, the lads don't give me any trouble he says I'm fair with them and they're fair with me
[Jane:] Mm...
[John:] and I told him about the, him taking the wagon off me, he said that's bloody stupid that... cos Nick used to do my run, work it out for me
[Jane:] mm
[John:] he knew, if he, if he treated me right, I treated him right
[Jane:] ...
[John:] I'm telling ya, I've just had it up to there honest... I told Dave this morning, he says well he says I can't, he, you're not losing anything, going and sitting and listening to the man
[Jane:] No
[John:] he said, he actually said, if it was m if I was in your position I'd go and have a listen
[Jane:] mm
[John:] see what the man's got to offer, it might be more... but there again it might be less, but having saying that, it might be a lesser basic, but higher return
[Jane:] If they can guarantee the overtime
[John:] is it, who knows
[Jane:] mm... thing is, I mean you're like that aren't ya? I mean if you stick it out with Hotpoint and hope that the hours come back, if the hours come back you're gonna be earning a lot more money aren't ya?...
[John:] Yeah but you see if it's
[Jane:] This is it I know
[John:] ifs and ands
[Jane:] I know
[John:] I mean look at Colin Jane, he got it made at, at
[Jane:] mm
[John:] take your bed there, now I know that
[Jane:] mm
[John:] take your bed there, money in abundance, even in this recession, well yeah the work's there, no problem, he just got a big new contract for some oh not Federal, give me another big haulage contractor, oh I can't think, T N T
[Jane:] T N T?
[John:] you know T N T, Taylors Nightly Trunk
[Jane:] Is that what it is?
[John:] Yeah, it's either Taylors Nightly Trunk or Turners Nightly Trunk I'm not sure, seventy new trailers... ten grand a piece
[Jane:] Why did Colin leave?...
[John:] I don't think he wanted the er, I don't think he could hack the way Cartwrights work
[Jane:] On the trailers?
[John:] Well
[Jane:] You, he's back to like labouring again weren't he really?
[John:] Cartwrights are very funny people
[Jane:] Int he trained up as a welder now?
[John:] He's not a fully fledged welder
[Jane:] Have you
[John:] he's, he's welding
[Jane:] yeah, but
[John:] but
[Jane:] they trained him didn't they?
[John:] Yeah
[Jane:] That other firm.
[John:] but he's not
[Jane:] So what was he wel was he welding at Cartwrights?
[John:] He was making er legs for the
[Jane:] Mm
[John:] what they do, they're like a leg and
[Jane:] and you have to weld them in
[John:] no, this leg it's, it folds under
[Jane:] Oh
[John:] and what it is the box is stood there and then you back the motor under it and then you drop it onto the body and it folds
[Jane:] Why didn't he like it?
[John:] He said it was repetitive
[Jane:] Boring?
[John:] Yeah
[Jane:] But the money was there
[John:] This is it, take your bed there, Saturdays and Sundays and as many nights as you want... now personally me, I'd have stuck that
[Jane:] Yeah, for the money
[John:] for the easy job, you set your stall out, you make a jig to sort it all out, you can slide it in, zip, zip, zip, done... you could probably say what, three an hour out, if you're lucky, two and a half, three an hour...
[Jane:] under there
[John:] now I could put up with that, but obviously Colin couldn't, but having saying that I feel, I, I think I learnt a lot from being bonus there
[Jane:] Mm
[John:] being on piecework there
[Jane:] Was there, was it piecework then?
[John:] Yeah to a degree, but not, not that bad if you know what I mean
[Jane:] Let me go and see where Michael is, I've seemed to have lost him, he's very quiet...
[John:] Well, I tell you what
[Jane:] we can have our tea out here
[John:] I'm glad I had a word with Steve though
[Jane:] Deana, do you think you could watch Michael please?
[John:] Er, I'm gonna take the telly up there later on
[Jane:] Yes
[John:] and cut that board out alright?
[Jane:] that's alright, I'm not bothered, do you know
[John:] I'll put the I'll put the, the chair, and put the telly back while I'm cutting it
[Jane:] You know that film I taped last night with John Travolta?
[John:] Oh aye
[Jane:] It's, it's a comedy and it don't look half bad... I just watched, I just watched about
[John:] Come here you
[Jane:] ten minutes of it
[John:] Oh
[Jane:] No we'll get there eventually, one day John I suppose
[John:] I feel rotten though, I do honest cos I know what
[Jane:] I know
[John:] I know...
[Jane:] we want so much and we just can't do it, it's frustrating John, I mean
[John:] I feel as though I'm failing you though somehow
[Jane:] Oh that's stupid though int it?
[John:] Bo
[Jane:] It's not your bloody fault
[John:] I know it isn't, but that's the way I feel... I don't know
[Jane:] I, right let's get this dished up
[John:] I'll go and get me saw and everything out while it's still light
[Jane:] Well, you're gonna have your dinner now.
[John:] Yeah I know, I'm only gonna get it out
[Jane:] Well go on then.
[John:] while it's light then I can lock the garage up
[Jane:] Right well you'd better
[John:] I will...
[Jane:] What have you got? No Michael... put it back, there's a good boy, come on, put it back... Deana...
[speaker005:] Who me?
[Jane:] sort Michael out please... Michael no, Deana...
[speaker005:] Michael
[Jane:] come on please... John...
[John:] I'll sort them out after
[Jane:] It's a bit tough this steak, I think I made a mistake
[John:] Vinegar, have you got some vinegar kid? Ooh
[Jane:] I didn't put it on, I didn't cook it on a high enough light... silly me... not quite like the one you had last week...
[John:] I think you'll be er, no I'm not gonna say anything, no, I'll keep me gob shut.
[Jane:] What sort of erm, what you putting round the sides of this wood?
[John:] Ah
[Jane:] I want a nice curved edge so it's kiddie proof....
[John:] well I've just got ordinary straight flat timber at the moment
[Jane:] Can you not get that nice edging that's got a bit of a pattern on it?
[John:] I was going to it actually
[Jane:] Oh.
[John:] that's what I said to ya and you agreed with me, that's why I got it... it's inch and half thick er wide, by half inch thick, it's under there.
[Jane:] Can't you get this beading that's got a pattern in it? [clears throat]
[John:] You can, but it doesn't really take
[Jane:] Why?
[John:] erm, doesn't like being varnished.
[Jane:] Oh... if you pull it, do you want any more? Cos there's some in the
[John:] No that'll do
[Jane:] Pull it upside down
[John:] Shut up, that will, that will do woman, enough
[Jane:] to the bottom
[John:] Mm....
[Jane:] You didn't give your mum any money to get that C D did you that I was after?
[John:] What C D that might be?
[Jane:] That one about Cher.
[John:] Which one?
[Jane:] That Cher's C D I was after.
[John:] Yeah which one?
[Jane:] There's only one in the top ten at the moment...
[John:] Oh I dunno, I've been looking at a few, not that probably, not in the top ten
[Jane:] No, but it's in the top thirty
[John:] There's Heart of Stone
[Jane:] No, it's just called Cher
[John:] there's another one
[Jane:] the one I was after is just called Cher
[John:] You said to me that you wouldn't mind whatever one you got of Cher cos you like her music.
[Jane:] Yeah, but the one that I, it's got all her latest stuff on, is just called Cher... that's the one I was after, but I don't want it now, I told ya
[John:] It's a bit bloody late
[Jane:] Oh you've not bought it have you?... Told you not to John it's a lot of money.
[John:] Shut up...
[Jane:] Which one did you get?
[John:] Heart of Stone...
[Jane:] I've only ever seen one and the one that, the recent one is called just Cher and that's got all the last, the last few top ten hits on it.... Can't you change it?
[John:] [LAUGHTER] [] listen to it first and see what you think.
[Jane:] No I don't want to....
[John:] [sigh]
[Jane:] Oh I'm sorry, but there was only that one which is all, it's got her latest stuff on it, I'm not really keen on anything else, it's got those last, you know the sort of her last few records of it, on it I should say... I didn't know there was any others around, when I told you I wanted the Cher one, it was the one that was out now not the old ones.
[John:] [shouting] This one's out now []....
[Jane:] No, what I mean is er the new one sort of thing, the new Cher, it's in the top thirty, it was about number three a month about a month or so ago... I didn't know there was anything else
[John:] Well have this one and see what else develops... listen to it, you might like it.
[Jane:] Oh it's alright I'll change it John.
[John:] Oh...
[Jane:] Yeah, but what did I tell ya? I told you not to bother
[John:] [shouting] Oh Jane for Christ sake stop it
[Jane:] Yeah, but I did
[John:] stop it []....
[Jane:] I told you what I wanted...
[John:] Pissing me off now you....
[Jane:] It's no use getting in a huff about it there's erm
[John:] Don't bother Jane don't bother
[Jane:] Ah it's your favourite word that don't bother.
[John:] there's no point in going on about it now is there?...
[Jane:] I said not to spend any money, I said just get a little box of chocolates, that was all, finish.
[John:] Shut up... and since when did you ever listen to me?...
[Jane:] It's not that I was worried about, it was just the money, it's a lot of money for something that, was an idea a couple of months ago....
[John:] You really know how to cheer people up don't ya?
[Jane:] I'm sorry I told ya... and not only that I bought that camera the other week didn't I?... What was Sandy saying to ya?
[John:] What about?
[Jane:] I don't know I wasn't there, you was talking to Sandy over the fence....
[John:] She was asking what Steve had come up with... job wise... she said if ever I wanted a C V writing Graham'd do it for me
[Jane:] Good idea... won't be a bad idea... mm, what I thought was the tough steak has turned out to be the, the one that's not... I cut the steaks about a bit, one was a bit fattier than the other... the one that I had I thought would be dead tough, is tender... it's int it? they look more like a sirloin steak to me than a rump, even though it went under the name of rump... it looked like you can only tell the shape of it can't, oh God
[John:] D'ya want me to go?
[Jane:] No, I put
[John:] Who was that?
[Jane:] Jane
[John:] What she want?
[Jane:] I don't know if you remember but ages ago, round about October time she borrowed some stuff for the Brownies, for erm, for Sian, Sian was going camping and she hadn't got shorts or anything, so she borrowed it off me, I was thinking of Stacey starting, I wanted the t I'm not bothered about the shorts, but I want the T-shirt and I'm just gonna get Stacey the culottes... and she can wear her shorts and the cardigan with it... buy, when she first starts and then we could, Deana's moving up to Guides this, so she can have that sweatshirt of er, I mean they're nine pound
[John:] Mm.
[Jane:] it's no good buying another one, she's not gonna need it in the summer is she?... I've cooked these steaks too long, trying to get them brown.... Will you do me a favour and keep the receipt and everything for that C D and the bag that it's in?... Sandy must be having company, pulled the blind down...... I think that's why they've been good about the parking this week, cos I mean Irene's pulled her car, we saw Irene pull her car in... was you here when she... I saw her get in it, it must of been teatime yesterday
[John:] No.
[Jane:] she got in it, pulled it forward and put it in.
[John:] Perhaps she's got the message.
[Jane:] Hmm, I doubt it somehow and then Derek put his in and then Paul parked up where Eileen was... Paul was waiting to get out...
[John:] So... well Paul come out, I was talking to Steven and he said I come home last night and he said I couldn't park me bloody car up cos there were cars everywhere, and they were all theirs....
[Jane:] Who said that, Paul?
[John:] Mm.
[Jane:] I didn't think he parked here last night.
[John:] Well he was when I come home from work.
[Jane:] What last night? Oh...
[John:] They were all theirs.
[Jane:] was it?
[John:] Yeah....
[Jane:] Was that blue Escort there, the one that parked behind us?
[John:] I've not seen him
[Jane:] No, I was gonna say... mm won't do him any harm getting a bit of a taste of his own medicine.
[John:] Hmm... I personally think he's seen the light about it.
[Jane:] About time.
[Chris:] We went and took Josh out didn't we? Give him a bit of a walk.
[Jane:] You've been for a walk eh?
[Chris:] Mm, we went in that, we went and got me barm cakes and a bit, a few veg and that, went, oh I bought Li Joanne a little set of er instead of an Easter egg, it's quite nice, I got it from that shop, you know erm next to Kingston and Hutch
[Jane:] Oh yeah?
[Chris:] er, what's it called er?
[Jane:] Oh I call it the posh shop.
[Chris:] Yeah, it's just like a select second shop in't it? Really, but er
[Jane:] Yeah, but a hundred times dearer.
[Chris:] but I mean some, yeah, but I mean the stuff is cheaper compared to what you pay to other shop
[Jane:] What sort of
[Chris:] it's nice it's just like, it's a sleeveless top, white, they had it in like lilac, jade and navy, erm and it's got, it's navy shorts with it
[Jane:] Mm
[Chris:] and like a big tie through the, the waist and the top is like white edge with navy and it's got like a sailor collar at the back
[Jane:] oh lovely
[Chris:] with like a navy stripe and erm an anchor on each side, it's quite nice cos she's got, I thought it would do for her holidays
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] but the top she could wear with like, she's got, well it's only cotton you see, shorts are only cotton
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] but she's got some really smart erm navy shorts
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] that I thought this top would look nice to wear
[Jane:] very nice this
[Chris:] at night, it's a smart set rath er rather than in the day
[Jane:] oh lovely
[Chris:] so I'm just looking for er a T-shirt or something for Lisa... no you can't have the pen it's too sharp... yeah, you're crafty you are aren't you, you can get zips open now... mm...
[Jane:] So when you going in to sign the contracts?
[Chris:] Not heard anything yet
[Jane:] Not heard anything yet
[Chris:] Velma called on Monday, erm, because I rang her up on Sunday to tell her what was happening, cos I mean she didn't know it, we signed our contract and erm I said to her well if we get a date this week, I said could, cos she's going back to Wales tomorrow, she won't be back till after Easter
[Jane:] No
[Chris:] so I said could Mike go in and do the fencing you see at the side, to keep the dog out
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] so,sh oh she said you, oh first of all she said you can go and get the key, so I said oh no I'm not bothered about the key I said if you could just leave the side gate open, so erm
[Jane:] Has it got a lock then?
[Chris:] yeah I think, I don't, she must lock it from the inside window back through
[Jane:] Back out
[Chris:] you see, so er anyway when we got off the phone Mike said yeah but what about bloody power you see
[Jane:] Oh
[Chris:] so, anyway, she must of thought about this, so she called on Monday, and she said oh I've been thinking Michael'll need electric for the drill
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] so she said what I'll do she said is I'll leave the key to the garage under two bricks at the side of the garage
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] she said and then he can use the power in there
[Jane:] mm, mm
[Chris:] so as long as we've got a date by Saturday he can go and do it, if we still haven't got a date he won't be able to go and do it
[Jane:] you can't do anything
[Chris:] we've got the fencing well no, no you can't Jane because you're not insured you see until
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] you actually exchange, as soon as you've exchanged contracts we've got to get insured you see... but erm... I mean on the letter we got from the solicitor on Saturday it said, it, it looks as though your purchaser's ready to exchange contracts in the forthcoming week
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] so we've just wait and see.
[Jane:] she's doing everything by the book I think, so
[Chris:] Oh I've never even seen anything of her Jane
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] I really thought I would see her round Sale, I've never seen anything of her
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] but, erm... it might of taken longer than what she thought as regards her London ends you see
[Jane:] start again
[Chris:] really, that's what it is
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] well I think Dawn is quite happy now, I mean I think she felt as though she'd been rushed at first, but I mean
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] that was her choice really
[Jane:] that's right
[Chris:] I mean she said to me on Monday something about, I mean it's her that wanted to be in, in, by the middle of March, now I never said the woman wanted to be in by March
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] we were just discussing it
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] but, I, Miss never actually said well I
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] want to be in by the end of March
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] I think she just assumed because she was coming down here with her job
[Jane:] she was ready to move in
[Chris:] that she'll be ready to move in you see
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] but I said well at least you've got it all done, you don't have to rush around at the last minute.
[Jane:] that's right. How much money did she make in the end on er garage thing?
[Chris:] She didn't say and I, I never thought to ask her, no she didn't say... so we're just, that's why really as I say I don't, I think at first she was quite happy for us to go in and maybe take stuff in, but I don't think she was happy about us doing structural things on it
[Jane:] Mm
[Chris:] cos I think her solicitor must of said something to her you see
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] but I mean even, even if we, if we get a date for next week Jane, we can't get in, cos I'm not going to get a key and go in when she's not there
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] if it'd happened a couple of weeks ago when she was about I would of kept going over like she said I could do
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] but we'll just leave it now
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] to the day
[Jane:] you might as well
[Chris:] er, we'll get it all sorted, you know what you like, you sit there and you think oh I want it, to get it all sorted before I go and move, it'll just have to be in a tip for a while.
[Jane:] yeah, you can't though can ya? I mean you've got, it takes you so long to place things and
[Chris:] No you don't this is it, we'll just dump everything, I said to Mark we'll just dump everything in the back room and we'll stay in the back room till we've sorted the front room
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] out and then we'll move into the front room
[Jane:] into the front room you've got Easter hopefully to go out and to sort out
[Chris:] Well I hope so.
[Jane:] your, your front room though... I think you just want to get everything
[Chris:] Well I think that's what it is Jane, but you can't
[Jane:] tidy, but you know, you know in your own mind you can't
[Chris:] you know in your own mind you can't
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] but and Creg's on Monday [LAUGHTER] with the carpets [], oh we shall have a right laugh with them two blokes, aye, they both go oh God not you again [LAUGHTER] you know [] and do I have a
[Jane:] have you thought of any that you like?
[Chris:] Oh we do like that one in the window
[Jane:] That's the
[Chris:] that's the one Mike's mad on, and when I went in on, er
[Jane:] that particular colour or a different colour?
[Chris:] yeah it looks lovely in the square, yeah because I thought it was quite light, but it isn't actually
[Jane:] It's the pinky one int it there
[Chris:] it's erm, you shut up, no I went in, I've never been in Weeks, to go in and have a look and everything, it was Hamish that was in that time and you can have a right laugh with him, he's the one that came and sorted the hall and stairs
[Jane:] Oh
[Chris:] out for me and erm, when he went in on Monday, erm it was the other one the lad that actually owns it, so I was in there for about bloody half an hour and we came home with some samples and one that I quite liked it was up on the wall and he said that is my best selling Axminster that I had, and it was like, it was maybe it was a bit too busy, it was, it was greyey and it was all different other colours in it, but it was a lot of flowers on it, it wasn't a traditional Axminster you see Mike loves these traditional Axminsters and he doesn't really, he won't really entertain anything else, erm, anyway I brought that sample home... and what else? Oh yeah that's the only one I brought home, on Tuesday it was, well as soon as he saw, I brought it in and me dad looked at it and he goes yeah it's alright, I knew he didn't like it and then when Mike got in, he said oh I don't like that, so I said why? Well you take it back I said and you pick the carpet
[Jane:] Mm where's this for then?
[Chris:] so, this is the front room
[Jane:] The front room
[Chris:] so er, he goes off and he comes back with three samples then, well one of them, it has been in the window as well, but it's a very definite diamondy shape
[Jane:] More
[Chris:] no quite big shaped diamond but it's in like pastel pink and pastel blue and it's very, very pastely colours...
[Jane:] Can't remember those
[Chris:] but I would imagine down on a floor it would look very, the diamonds would be too much if you
[Jane:] hit ya mm
[Chris:] know wha what I mean, he brought that one home and he brought another quite nice traditional one, but it tended to be quite browny, and then another one and, er
[Jane:] You're not ripping that up?
[Chris:] and then you know the one that was in the window?
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] He didn't bring a sample home of that cos he, he brought the same design but in a different colour, but it was more greeny
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] so, anyway, I just, we've got it down on the floor and I says if we had a brown suite
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] that would be ideal
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] even though there was a bit of grey in it, it was the, really the brown that predominated it, I said it, it, the grey suite wouldn't go with it
[Jane:] so you're gonna have the front room with your grey suite in it?
[Chris:] yeah then shall I
[Jane:] You thought, have you thought of any colours for your back room? No, this is, you're thinking this is for your front room now your carpet?
[Chris:] Yeah, er, well, so I brought the sample of that one home
[Jane:] Mm
[Chris:] the one that's in the window
[Jane:] right it's the pink squares
[Chris:] and it's the and, yeah, me and Joanne weren't very keen on any of the carpets either and as soon as she saw that she said oh that's lovely
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] she said now I do like that, cos it looks nice and warm cos there's loads of colours in it, there's pink, there's burgundy, there's blue, green, every colour you can think of, you've bro oh, you're determined to have that you are, aren't ya? If he got a wouldn't do him any harm, but it wouldn't half make him go ah, cos it's dead minty what are ya?... What are ya? Leave my handbag alone... but you see when it was in the window Jane I thought it looked a bit too light, but I think what makes it look like that is they've got the light shining
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] right on it
[Jane:] I've seen it down Chris and I love it
[Chris:] when you actually see it on the floor, it looks totally different
[Jane:] Glenys has got it, very, very sim very, very similar, there's very, there's not a lot in it, I'll take those magazines off
[Chris:] you see, oh Christ, erm...
[Jane:] but she got it in the greens
[Chris:] yeah, well I, Mike says I brought that one home when we were looking for a hall instead, but I said no I said it was one very similar, but he said we couldn't have it because erm
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] with them being the squares you'd lose a hell of a lot coming down the stairs
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] you know on the turn and everything
[Jane:] it would spoil it I mean
[Chris:] it would, you've got to have a big spread really haven't ya?
[Jane:] yeah, yeah I mean I'd thought about it for ours
[Chris:] But
[Jane:] but I remember what you said about the squares
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] I'd like it in here
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] I really would
[Chris:] it would go lovely with this
[Jane:] I know
[Chris:] because even though
[Jane:] it's got all the colours hasn't it?
[Chris:] even though this is erm not a plain, it's not dead busy is it?
[Jane:] No
[Chris:] If you know what I mean.
[Jane:] but that, it's not, it doesn't, I don't see that carpet as being a particularly patterned car I know it has got a pattern
[Chris:] It is it's a definite square, it's definite true, what your colours
[Jane:] but to me I look at the, I call patterned carpets all the flowers and
[Chris:] mm
[Jane:] rounded patterns
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] d'ya know what I mean but
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] to me this is, a square doesn't look the same as the round
[Chris:] no
[Jane:] you know
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] I know it sounds stupid, but I like
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] I don't like the round
[Chris:] no
[Jane:] flowery carpets
[Chris:] no
[Jane:] er or the ones that have got leaves going into
[Chris:] mm
[Jane:] you know that sort you have
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] to me that's patterned
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] but that carpet that you're talking about to me is a plain
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] but it's a plain square.
[Chris:] yeah, as I say Mike says, reckons I
[Jane:] Liked it
[Chris:] brought the green one home cos I brought the three samples home, the one that we've got down and another one... and another one for the hall and stair, but I said I'm sure it wasn't the same as that, but it might have been, but I have to say he always said we would
[Jane:] Mike said
[Chris:] but you see the fortunate thing about it Jane, with that one, most of the carpets are only twelve foot wide
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] which would mean, cos the room's thirteen foot wide
[Jane:] oh is it?
[Chris:] we would of had to
[Jane:] Have another piece
[Chris:] buy an extra five square yards
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] cos it was only twelve foot wide, anyway, they do that one in fifteen foot wide
[Jane:] Oh do they?
[Chris:] so it, we've got to have twenty one something square yards, I think he worked it out at
[Jane:] Is it thirteen foot wide then the room?
[Chris:] Yeah into the alcove
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] the back room isn't, the back
[Jane:] no
[Chris:] room's only about eleven and a half, because you get the back room, the front room and then it goes in a bit
[Jane:] right
[Chris:] to the back room
[Jane:] to the kitchen
[Chris:] to the kitchen you see
[Jane:] yeah.
[Chris:] where it's
[Jane:] So what's the length of the front room?
[Chris:] Er fourteen ten, by
[Jane:] It's bigger than what it looks really
[Chris:] though it's bigger than what you think really
[Jane:] I think it's deceiving because it's got such high ceilings
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] the high ceilings sort of seems to take it off with
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] I know it sounds silly, but perhaps if the ceilings was lower it would look big
[Chris:] yeah, yeah
[Jane:] higher that
[Chris:] I think it's just maybe er how you have it as well
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] I mean if you look at it now without the dining table
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] it looks totally different
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] I mean, Mike really likes that as a front room, he keeps saying that's gonna be our room, you know
[Jane:] mm I like a front room
[Chris:] he's, he's funny he does like a front room, so I thought well sod it, I hate picking carpets Jane, so I thought sod it he can pick
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] the carpet and if it's not right he can
[Jane:] I don't think you can go wrong, far wrong with that one
[Chris:] No, it is nice
[Jane:] thinking of pink and grey in there
[Chris:] yeah, and he wants to, he came home this morning and he said, he must of been thinking about it, and he said well we could emulsion the walls, he said erm, why don't we do an apricot white, I says well that's peach, I said the
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] the carpet's pink
[Jane:] yeah and, the suite
[Chris:] it wouldn't, it wouldn't look right, I mean we have got apricot white on the walls in the back room now, but I said, he, I think he feels as though, a definite pink is not the right colour for a room, do you know what I mean?
[Jane:] Mm
[Chris:] And yet it, I was quite happy with it to be honest
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] Jane because I think it looks quite warm
[Jane:] yeah, you can only put another colour into your curtains and bring it out with your carpet
[Chris:] Yeah, well what I think he, I think he will emulsion over it cos I mean the ceiling's a bit, as you say she'd been a smoker
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] and the ceiling in that front room is a very deep, deep pink I think, if I can remember rightly, I think we'll go over, we'll probably will go over it and
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] erm we're not gonna go mad knocking picture frames down in that room, it's too much of a big job
[Jane:] Yes it is, innit?
[Chris:] I'm just gonna put a border round it
[Jane:] Mm
[Chris:] seen like a border in perhaps like a bit of pink and bit of grey on it and it's like sort of scalloped edging
[Jane:] Mm that'll look nice
[Chris:] so put that over
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] at the top of the erm
[Jane:] in
[Chris:] of the picture frame
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] it sort of brings the ceiling down a little bit as well
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] cos to be honest, the more Mike goes over there, the more he keeps saying he doesn't really want to pull the picture frames down
[Jane:] no well with them being such a tall ceilings, they're probably
[Chris:] I don't know why, yeah and I think he feels as though you, he says well if you decorate it right you can blend it in with the wallpaper
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] anyway you know, so
[Jane:] of course you will.
[Chris:] I don't know I see I think we'll
[Jane:] So what will you paint the picture rails white?
[Chris:] Same colour as the walls
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] I think, so it just blends in with the border round
[Jane:] yeah, it'll look nice
[Chris:] and then it'll just, it'll just be titivated up really, so we can live in it and then the back room can just be done at our own time.
[Jane:] I, I'll definitely have those curtains for you this weekend, I'm gonna get them done.
[Chris:] Well as I say Jane
[Jane:] Well then you can put them straight up then can't you?
[Chris:] well no she's already got them up.
[Jane:] Mm, well what are they like?
[Chris:] Well they're not very nice, but I mean er I'll leave them up till I come to actually er get everything done
[Jane:] Mm, no I meant when you've dec once you've, you know painted in there and got your carpet down
[Chris:] Yeah
[Jane:] the grey curtains would go with your suite wouldn't they?
[Chris:] Oh they would match up with it yeah, yeah well I, okay then if you want
[Jane:] I've been mean I've been, I would of done it last weekend, but, I don't, I had a load of washing and it depends
[Chris:] Yeah, it is
[Jane:] getting it all done
[Chris:] you've gotta get up in the mood Jane, I did Saturday morning
[Jane:] Mm
[Chris:] it was fine, I thought right get up and get them bloody curtains washed, I had 'em on the line, but do you think our Mike noticed them, well when he came home from work, because I thought of having to put 'em back up again, I just
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] got straight in from work
[Jane:] oh
[Chris:] and I had Mike ironing them while I was putting 'em up, I said right stand here and watch me hang this curtain, so I'm showing him how to iron it, so while I'm upstairs putting 'em up he's ironing
[Jane:] He's ironing
[Chris:] 'em, so I had 'em put back up again for quarter to six,
[Jane:] That's alright that, I must have done six loads of washing, for some reason I just didn't seem to have enough to do me loads
[Chris:] Yeah
[Jane:] but then come Saturday morning
[Chris:] it's all accumulated
[Jane:] I had to, I was doing two what I call mid washes, this sort of colour
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] and then I was doing two these colours and I'd
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] got about three lots of er white it's unbelievable
[Chris:] yeah, I've done that Jane you sort of look one day and you think there's hardly anything
[Jane:] Stop it.
[Chris:] there, I'll leave it
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] and then you'll regret it the next day
[Jane:] I know
[Chris:] cos the bloody basket's full to the brim
[Jane:] I'm determining to keep it, I'm just putting bits in now
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] but a white load's there that I must put in and must get that put out this afternoon
[Chris:] mm
[Jane:] but er, oh dear... I wanted to get them down and me others up while John's been in
[Chris:] mm
[Jane:] cos I didn't want to have no curtains up on me front
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] so I shall definitely get him to give us a lift
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] with them.
[Chris:] well as I say don't worry about it cos that first week I won't even bother anyway cos I'll leave up what I've got
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] cos he said, you see I've, I think it's a picture, I think it's erm, what do you call it? A pelmet, I think
[Jane:] right
[Chris:] she's got wooden pelmets on everything
[Jane:] Has she?
[Chris:] so I'll want to take them down
[Jane:] Yeah
[Chris:] so they'll, that'll have to come down anyway
[Jane:] yeah...
[Chris:] You see I hate choos that's another thing I hate choosing Jane
[Jane:] Those windows are so big that you've got though, I mean I do I, they, they probably will fit, I think it will be a tight fit though
[Chris:] They're twelve foot, I know that one in the front room is twelve foot wide, by seventy two drop
[Jane:] Yeah, well I don't know... there more than seventy two aren't they?
[Chris:] Mm
[Jane:] But erm, they only really just go in my bay
[Chris:] yeah
[Jane:] there's no, there's not a lot of gathering there at all, what? You're not having the pen...
[Chris:] cos like Joanne's bedroom I'd measured that, that's sixty six drop... so I ended up getting seventy two drop curtains
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] and Pam was gonna shorten them and then I said no I think I'll leave them
[Jane:] yeah
[Chris:] cos it was only like sort of eight inches difference and I thought well when I wash 'em they might shrink anyway
[Jane:] mm
[Chris:] and er, it'll, it'll
[Jane:] Now Stacey, I remember, she used to, this is, must be mentioned within the bunk as well, cos I, for some reason I remember sitting her down on the chair to dress her by the bunk
[Lynn:] Yes.
[Jane:] cos Deana used to have a chair by the bunk so she could climb down onto the chair, shut up
[Lynn:] Oh.
[Jane:] and we always used to say what have you got? And she used to say a big head [LAUGHTER]
[Lynn:] [LAUGHTER] You rotten thing you, I know well Mike's potato head cos he has trouble getting things over his head, and especially off, it hurts more off than on don't it when er [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Yeah, it's easier to get them on int it?
[Lynn:] oh dear... oh you've got plenty of ready for this, mm [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] [LAUGHTER] You've got nothing to play with it now.
[Lynn:] Me or Michael? [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] Why, do you want some thing to play with?
[Lynn:] Don't [clears throat] don't... oh what you doing? Oh better not put you off your food.
[Jane:] You won't put him off really, I think he's just got a great a, he's not, just got a great appetite I think, he'll just eat and eat and eat
[Lynn:] Mm.
[Jane:] once you're putting it in
[Lynn:] But erm
[Jane:] he won't feed himself or anything
[Lynn:] has she not come, your friend?
[Stacey:] Yes she has
[Lynn:] Oh
[Jane:] oh should of got you some more fromage frais Michael, oh I was looking at them as well wasn't I? And I didn't get 'em, you'll have to have a, a wobbly, a strawberry wobbler.
[Lynn:] I have a strawberry wobbler as well
[Jane:] You what?
[Lynn:] I have a strawberry wobbly every day [clears throat]
[Jane:] Michael...
[Lynn:] no...
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[Jane:] you alright?
[Lynn:] there you go, gotta wee in a minute, aha.
[Jane:] You don't have to go you know
[Lynn:] Well you've got a lot of things to do and as I say erm, I thought I'll only go for half an hour, but I didn't really come if I say that every time go and I thought if I pop and see you then I gone, now I know I can well now I know I can, that I shouldn't waste it, don't you think?
[Jane:] Definitely, you vote for John cos he's
[Lynn:] oh is he? Can't he go somewhere else?
[Jane:] No I don't think he can
[Lynn:] No I suppose not a thing
[Jane:] the only thing I can do is to get somebody who doesn't know, who
[Lynn:] Yeah.
[Jane:] know and get, cos lot I've got his card all you have got to do is go in and say the name yeah, I don't know who I could ask though really, Joe Bloggs up the street
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[Jane:] His car's got it on that
[Lynn:] no
[Jane:] Perhaps he'll keep it out there, well he had that patch to it didn't he?
[Lynn:] Well he loves it, he loved it before he knew sort of we got
[Jane:] It's a lot of work
[Lynn:] we had it for the weekend once he offered, I didn't ask him...
[Jane:] Oh well perhaps he don't want to have any.
[Lynn:] Well he probably will, but if he's going off to Florida
[Jane:] Well then you'll have to sort, by then with a bit of luck you might of been established with somewhere yourself... mightn't ya?
[Lynn:] I see
[Jane:] I mean you, just say
[Lynn:] there's no doubt I'd rather have him sort of
[Jane:] I mean he's not gonna sort of get up and go within the next twelve months is he?
[Lynn:] No.
[Jane:] It's gonna take a bit of time... by then, hopefully you'll of got yourself sorted...
[Lynn:] I'll think about it then is that nice?
[Jane:] He's the type that you're gonna have to be firm with Lynn, tell him the only way he's gonna accept it, is you tell him you just don't love him
[Lynn:] Mm.
[Jane:] be, be truthful with him
[Lynn:] Mm.
[Jane:] otherwise you could have him knocking on your door and you know let's give it a go and
[Lynn:] I don't want really want Darren, I don't honestly think, I think I'd have difficulty in the initial breaking, but then everything else would go
[Jane:] Mm.
[Lynn:] I don't think he'd come back
[Jane:] He's just a baby int he?
[Lynn:] Mm.... oh the hard boy
[Jane:] Mm?
[Lynn:] the hard boy and sort of yes I'm having his baby
[Jane:] Mm you don't know, you don't want you're not prepared to be his er, what you call it? his skivvy, he doesn't, you know
[Lynn:] Well he's not erm
[Jane:] prepare to give you anything else
[Lynn:] well he said the house is going up for sale, I think he thinks I'll be patient in that direction, it's not that, it's just that if it was a nice house, a normal house where the kids can play out on a nice day and just hang the washing out, I could be getting on with it
[Jane:] Yeah.
[Lynn:] but you know, so
[Jane:] Yeah, I mean
[Lynn:] but I knew that before I moved there he says I know better
[Jane:] mm, the thing is I mean, as well oh I don't know
[Lynn:] [sighing] oh I love to [] maybe he'll shout
[Jane:] I mean he would of put it up for sale knowing that you wanted to get somewhere between you, knowing that the house market is as it is
[Lynn:] Mm.
[Jane:] you know sort of say, well go and get what you need to er, to make it happen
[Lynn:] Mm.
[Jane:] well at least of all for the time being
[Lynn:] No, he don't seem to care about
[Jane:] it's all material things for them int it you think about he's probably had the car for God knows how many weeks, now he's got what car, you know, he could be, you don't know do ya? You'd like to pull one over on him...
[Lynn:] You know what girls do with married men
[Jane:] No.
[Lynn:] I'm going for a wee
[Jane:] Right
[Lynn:] and I'll tell you what they do
[Jane:] He's going to kill me with me tea again, I was ready for a mess
[Lynn:] Oh Jane I've got
[Jane:] urgh, hmm
[Lynn:] oh no, what you got? What's this? What's this?
[Jane:] no you're not, you do it on purpose
[Lynn:] [LAUGHTER]
[Jane:] everybody does it on purpose
[Lynn:] Yes... [clears throat]
[Jane:] see those little ones, what's this one there?
[Lynn:] boo
[Jane:] What... menace...
[Lynn:] Ooh watch the coffee
[speaker005:] Can I take me jumper off? It's boiling outside, it really is.
[Jane:] No.
[speaker005:] Please
[Jane:] No, I don't think it's that warm.
[speaker005:] It is isn't it Amanda?
[Jane:] No Mandy's got her long sleeve thing on... who's that?
[speaker005:] Can we have something cool to drink?
[Jane:] Yes.
[speaker005:] Any ice?
[Jane:] De Deana get a drink of water.
[speaker005:] Can we have an ice cream?
[Jane:] No, get a drink of water and stop it
[speaker005:] Oh it's water we can drink, I've only got a coloured do you want a drink of water? No thanks. You sure?... Can I have a couple of these mummy?
[Jane:] Pardon?
[speaker005:] Anything to eat?
[Jane:] No.
[speaker005:] Oh mummy I'm starving.
[Jane:] No you're not, what's that lot nextdoor had? Lovely
[speaker005:] Please mummy, just a biscuit, Trio biscuit, please just a biscuit... we get our bikes out?
[Lynn:] [shouting] On, you getting your shoes on Jane? Come on [].... Ee... didn't I Rebecca?... [clears throat]
[Jane:] Cheeky... oh, you, this thing under there like that... I think... I'm tired, just have me water on, I think, I had the gas fire up and I turned round and turned it off
[speaker005:] Yeah, cos it's so warm
[Jane:] so I thought I'll have me water on urgh, what, you're noisy baba, what are ya? What? Noisy, noisy, noisy.
[Lynn:] Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
[Jane:] Oh, so next time you're down here you'll be settled in your mothers will ya?
[Lynn:] Oh I hope so
[Jane:] You don't sound too sure.
[Lynn:] I don't know what, no I don't mean it that way, I'm just weary and not looking forward to tonight and
[Jane:] Are you going to do it? That's the thing.
[Lynn:] Oh I'm going to tell him, I've got to I can't see him
[Jane:] He's not gonna change now is he?
[Lynn:] changing....
[Jane:] No.
[Lynn:] No... what did I have?
[Jane:] Mm?
[speaker005:] Mummy what's
[Jane:] oh Deana, what you gonna
[speaker005:] It's not that hot.
[Jane:] do in the middle of summer? Mm?
[speaker005:] It's outside, you go outside and in a second you
[Jane:] I tell you what you can do, you can bring my curtains in for me... that'll keep you cool, go on
[speaker005:] There mum
[Jane:] be a dear
[speaker005:] did I put it up there?
[Jane:] What d'ya want?
[speaker005:] The invitation to Maxine...
[Jane:] John's got his income tax, that'll please him
[Lynn:] Oh God... thank you very much, so what they doing at Hotpoint? Are they making redundancies or
[Jane:] no, they've just cut all the hours down and one thing and another, it's a pain in the bum
[Lynn:] It is, yeah.
[Jane:] yeah, it means he's getting less hours, so he'll be getting less money... which we don't want at all at the moment
[Lynn:] No.
[Jane:] just about got ourselves reasonably tidy, you know, after Christmas and everything and set, managing to save... and spend as well
[Lynn:] Yeah.
[Jane:] not a lot, but you know spend
[Lynn:] But at least you've sort of
[Jane:] yeah...
[Lynn:] It's not fair is it?
[Jane:] No, something always comes along and puts a flaming great big spanner in the works and that upsets everybody....
[Lynn:] What will he do look for another or
[Jane:] Well I don't know, just er, I don't know really, I don't want to mind cos he's been there five years, so if he does get made redundant he's got a chance of getting a little bit of money, not a lot, but it would help. Story of four people [reading] this is a story of four people named everybody, somebody, anybody and nobody, there was an important job to be done and everybody was sure that somebody could do it, anybody could of done it, but nobody did, somebody got angry about that because it was everybody's job, everybody thought anybody could do it, but nobody would []. You're not having it.
[speaker005:] I only had two.
[Jane:] So that one's mine, I don't want it, I've had enough, you've had as much as me, get on with your pizza...
[speaker005:] mum please
[Jane:] I don't want it...
[speaker005:] mummy I don't want a pizza.
[Jane:] Well leave it then.
[speaker005:] It's because of the ham.
[Jane:] What's wrong with the ham?
[speaker005:] I don't like cooked ham.
[Jane:] No more Michael, it's all gone.
[speaker005:] Mummy, mummy
[Jane:] Mm? no I've changed me mind about the ice cream
[speaker005:] mummy
[Jane:] it's too late for ice cream you can have a bit of that whatsit
[speaker005:] What whatsit?...
[Stacey:] I can't have anything.
[Jane:] Yes you can.
[Stacey:] What?
[Jane:] Pass me your plate Deana please, sit, your head up.
[speaker005:] I don't want it.
[Jane:] Why take it then? Do you want it Stacey?
[Stacey:] No thanks.
[speaker005:] Can I have something else?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[speaker005:] A piece of cake?
[Jane:] Pardon?
[speaker005:] A piece of cake.
[Jane:] I haven't got any cake.
[speaker005:] What you got then, a piece of what? A piece of that?
[Jane:] Mm... that's mine
[speaker005:] I know
[Jane:] I don't see why I should give mine up...
[speaker005:] [cough] thank you
[Jane:] mm...
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[speaker005:] What if I don't like it?
[Jane:] do you like it or what?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Jane:] If you don't like it I'll have me bit back.
[Stacey:] And I'll have the rest... I like it
[Jane:] You've got your book to read... when you've finished tea...
[Stacey:] In the garden
[Jane:] Oh Michael no...
[Stacey:] [reading] In the garden [] I want to see this, I'm not going to read this.
[Jane:] bite... bite... bite it, bite it, open your mouth, open, bite...
[speaker005:] How much sugar have you put in this?
[Jane:] Why?
[speaker005:] I can't taste none, why, how much have you put in?
[Jane:] Three quarters like I always do.
[speaker005:] Can I have a bit more in?
[Jane:] It's just that was sweet.... Come on... urgh... oh dear, you alright? Alright?... Michael
[speaker005:] He's been sick.
[Jane:] alright, don't run off... probably cos he was coughing, turn that
[speaker005:] Turn what off?
[Jane:] Go and get me a cloth Deana, floor cloth...
[speaker005:] That okay?
[Jane:] That'll do, wait a minute Michael
[speaker005:] Okay sweetheart
[Jane:] alright...
[Stacey:] it was awful...
[Jane:] Get me the er, some kitchen roll first please... take those Stace, those things and put them up there... give me your shoe... you bet you better get some more paper please
[speaker005:] Stacey get some more paper, I'll look after Michael.
[Jane:] He's alright, go and get some paper...
[speaker005:] Come here Stacey go and finish, God that's not enough
[Jane:] No Stacey I don't want that, that's no good... alright Michael
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] ...
[Jane:] Yes you, pest
[speaker005:] Say it wasn't my fault, I coughed...
[Jane:] yes, Michael
[speaker005:] Can he come in my bedroom?
[Jane:] Oh Deana, go and take him then, for God's sake...
[speaker005:] Go on, I'm sorry Michael
[Jane:] take that to another place then.
[Stacey:] Okay then, take that where?
[Jane:] Out of the way I said... oh go up that end... right get me a... I'll get it Deana, pass us a chair from out of the whatsit please?
[speaker005:] Eastenders are on.
[Jane:] Pardon?
[speaker005:] Eastenders.
[Jane:] Right.
[speaker005:] Pardon?
[Jane:] Alright, no Michael don't go out you've got nothing on your, come on you'll get cold, come here... Come on sit and start reading, leave the recorder alone. it's not an M, where's the M? It's not kimper
[Stacey:] P P C