[speaker001:] Right, what can I do for you this morning?
[speaker002:] Well erm I I'm still [LAUGHTER] I'm still having them panic attacks I've still made a diary of it.
[speaker001:] A merry Christmas, aha. Let me have a look.
[speaker002:] And er I've I've
[speaker001:] Oh yeah.
[speaker002:] used last one today er Then w where it says M on it means only a mild attack. The
[speaker001:] Yo yo
[speaker002:] said that, a Mr. Erm
[speaker001:] very very few.
[speaker002:] Yeah. Erm erm I'm coping alright, Doctor,
[speaker001:] Mm.
[speaker002:] you understand what I mean, I don't just lay in bed I just get
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] on with me work same. I suppose that's a good thing in one way. But
[speaker001:] You have about one a every week that One to two weeks aren't you?
[speaker002:] Yeah, well as I say, sometimes I go along while in between but I I think it's more or less when when I've been aggravated a bit, you know what I mean? And then the the last few times it's me son's been aggravating me to go into his caravan, you know what I mean?
[speaker001:] Oh.
[speaker002:] And I don't want to go. I'm not one for holidays,
[speaker001:] No, no.
[speaker002:] I like being in i it's it's s It's your nature, if if
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] your if your nature's for gadding about,
[speaker001:] I think that's
[speaker002:] okey-dokey, but if it isn't I mean I like me home. I'm a home bird.
[speaker001:] That's right. That's
[speaker002:] Er
[speaker001:] right, I must admit, I'm inclined the same way.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Now then
[speaker002:] Me h me husband's gone, he he's gone with elde with eldest grandson he has.
[speaker001:] Are you happy on your own?
[speaker002:] I yeah.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] A a as I say er i it takes a bit of getting used to when you're just making a meal for yourself, you know what I mean you're you're that used to carry 'em about and picking after 'em and
[speaker001:] Holiday
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] a holiday at home.
[speaker002:] I'm holiday at home, yeah. I've lit this I've got me dog so I'll be alright. She
[speaker001:] Now then.
[speaker002:] she won't let anybody touch me.
[speaker001:] What do you want to do about these? Because
[speaker002:] Well well what you s
[speaker001:] Do you find they work?
[speaker002:] Well do you think they're alright, I mean er
[speaker001:] Are they h are they helping you, when you take them?
[speaker002:] Well the er they they're helping me,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] But they're apt to make me feel a bit I suppose that's what they're for, a bit docile like, you know what I mean?
[speaker001:] Yeah, well what we c
[speaker002:] But er
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I I you know I cope with them alright, I I I as you can see Doctor how many prescribed. I mean it was October when I come and see you last time.
[speaker001:] November actually.
[speaker002:] Oh well that's when I had prescription, and er
[speaker001:] I think I think we've got er three choices.
[speaker002:] As I say er I only take them when I've got to take 'em, you understand what I mean, but I shall sit there and
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Something'll just come into me
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] mind, you know what I mean, and I get
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] a bit panicky wondering if
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I can think it out.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I know it's daft. Might think about a commercial what's happened years ago.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] It just seems as though it flashes in my mind, I don't know it I think I've always had a had a overactive mind, actually, you know I've always worked
[speaker001:] Well
[speaker002:] and
[speaker001:] We could put you on something on a regular basis to help to damp them down.
[speaker002:] Mm.
[speaker001:] But you weren't very keen on that la
[speaker002:] No as as I say Doctor, I don't Same as I was on the valium, you know
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] what I mean, I I I don't know whether that's a throwback Doctor from er being on them, I don't know. I think they call them flash backs don't they or something.
[speaker001:] Yes, that's right.
[speaker002:] But as I say I cope alright with them and as I say Doctor, I always seem as though I wake up with one, do you
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] understand what I mean, so
[speaker001:] Well
[speaker002:] it must be in my dreams or
[speaker001:] Or what we could do, if you say these this dose makes you a bit drowsy, we could give you the same stuff but in a lower dose.
[speaker002:] Mm.
[speaker001:] And see if that will help without actually making you
[speaker002:] You feel too dopey.
[speaker001:] feel flaccid, as you say.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Is that okay, shall we try a lower dose?
[speaker002:] Yes please.
[speaker001:] Now if you find the lower dose isn't working then we can always go back to
[speaker002:] Well
[speaker001:] this dose.
[speaker002:] describe them again Doctor, I I cope with them, I only just take 'em when I've got to do.
[speaker001:] What this dose again?
[speaker002:] Yes please.
[speaker001:] Y you don't want to try the
[speaker002:] No I don't want As I say I don't take them for sake I mean as you see how many you prescribed for me, can't you?
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] But er
[speaker001:] Well I shall give you thirty.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Er and that'll last you about a year.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And that's fine. And this is really the ideal way to use this drug.
[speaker002:] Mm.
[speaker001:] It's a very good drug when used properly, and that's exactly what you're doing. And
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] And half the time
[speaker002:] As I say I don't want anything on a on a regr regular
[speaker001:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker002:] basis Doctor. Not same as the valium was.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Because you get too independent of 'em, you know what
[speaker001:] That's right.
[speaker002:] I mean?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I'm independent Not independent
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] I getting me words up.
[speaker001:] Just when you need it. And we only give you thirty anyway.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] As I same I'm I'm You know, to be a bother like, but I thought well I'd be best to come up and see you I could have just have asked for an another prescription. Well no, I think it's sensible
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] to see you from time to time
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] just to see how you're getting along.
[speaker002:] Yeah, yeah.
[speaker001:] And make sure there's no other
[speaker002:] But
[speaker001:] problems that have
[speaker002:] me heart's alright isn't it? I mean you know me heart [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] As far as we know you're blood pressure and things have been fine.
[speaker002:] Me me heart's going nine to dozen as me mam'd say, bless her, but er
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] You know what I mean.
[speaker001:] [cough] That's right.
[speaker002:] And I think er I think it's that what worries you sometimes, you know er er If it can stand the pace, but as I say. That that's it.
[speaker001:] Okay.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] All being well, we'll see you
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] next autumn or so, next summer
[speaker002:] Yeah, well If if I want you, I
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] know I know where you are, Doctor.
[speaker001:] You do you do.
[speaker002:] Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Thank you Doctor.
[speaker001:] That's okay, nice to see
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] you. [tape change]