[Barry:] Is the heating on?
[Terri:] Mm. Yep. I thought Jean was on tonight?
[Barry:] No. Jean?
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Nope.
[Terri:] Erm... I've glad you've come cos this is as far as I can get.
[Barry:] Well
[Terri:] It's you that's got my other cane.
[Barry:] Er... did you say heating was on?
[Terri:] Yeah. I put it on.
[Barry:] Right.
[Terri:] Erm... the next time I take a delivery
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] if there's no fucking cellar key it's stopping outside on the promenade!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] I am not lugging it up them flipping stairs again!
[Barry:] Well who had the cellar... oh, you had it, cos he was cleaning the light out. Yeah, alright.
[Hugh:] What about that?
[Terri:] Frightening. [LAUGHTER]... He's lying.
[Barry:] Why are all the lights out?
[Terri:] Because they haven't put the bulbs back in.
[Barry:] Brilliant!
[Terri:] And you got a shock off them last time so I'm not doing it.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Why didn't you just leave it in the erm... inside the front player?
[Terri:] What on... Friday?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] And, and
[Barry:] Oh! Course.
[Terri:] stock, fill, opening
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] time at eight?
[Barry:] Oh! They were still here weren't... well when did you return them? He was meant to be here at er... one o'clock, half past one.
[Terri:] He turned up at Michael's door at half four.
[Barry:] Well I've actually got a spare cellar key. I mean, you know, I mean now it's irrelevant but... cos Jean's, well... Jean's got one.
[Terri:] Jean's got one. Geoff er... had a problem with transport so I rang A B A Disco shouting and screaming at Alistaire about... if I sit here any longer you're gonna have to chip me off, I'm frozen! And I hadn't got any change. I've ten quid's worth of fifty pieces that's all I could get.
[Barry:] Well haven't we got any from last night?
[Terri:] Very little. I took eighty five pounds to get change.
[Barry:] Well... yeah, two pound fifty is very little.
[Terri:] Yeah. Four pound fifty. And I've got a tenner's worth in all... in all sort.... And I've been going to the shop and... changing a note every time for the change.
[Barry:] [sigh]... Oh, oh, oh! Come on. And wait till Hughey gets here, I suppose.
[Terri:] What about... er, ringing Anne at the Royal? And I'll go and, I'll nip down and get it.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] Ken's not coming in till half ten. I said it was alright. He's... got a family works... party thing he's got to show his
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] face at.
[Barry:] Right.
[Terri:] So I said well please make sure you're in before you're to go up on the bus. And he said
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] he would. Cos he, he's, he's only stood about for first hour anyway.
[Barry:] That's true. What ab erm... what is... what's Anne's number at the Royal do you know it offhand? No
[Terri:] No.
[Barry:] it's not in the book I don't think.
[Terri:] Isn't it? Yeah.
[Barry:] Oh! Sh Jean'll know. Jean will be in won't she? She said they [music]
[Terri:] Conference, she was telling me.
[Barry:] No. Yeah I know, she's at the erm... tt... no, Anne's at the blo... Sportsman's dinner as well. It's half past
[Terri:] Well won't there be... Charlie or Bob will be in? Surely?
[Barry:] I think Rob's gone with her.... And... Charlie's in but I don't get on with him. I wonder who's gonna wander in.
[Terri:] Roy. Carlisle, Kirby Lonsdale... Morecambe Main Road... three five seven?
[Barry:] No. I co we'll have to read it
[Terri:] No. But, two five
[Barry:] down won't we?
[Terri:] seven the Main Road does sound
[Barry:] Ah! Yeah.
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] What's his name?
[Terri:] Charlie. Charlie's barman, he comes in here.
[Barry:] Is he the guy with the... the tache? Is he Rob's brother?
[Terri:] I don't know if he's his brother or not. Yeah, he's the younger
[Barry:] But it's hi
[Terri:] of the two.
[Barry:] he's the landlo er I mean he's the licensee... with Rob?
[Terri:] No. Rob's
[Barry:] There's two of them ma no there's two of them
[Terri:] Yes.
[Barry:] Rob and somebody
[Terri:] With Charlie.
[Barry:] the other guy.
[Terri:] Charlie.
[Barry:] It's Cha Charlie is it? [music]... How could Carnarvon not have any change?
[Terri:] Because they hadn't, I'd, they usually say ring after one... so I rang at half past one and they'd emptied all the machines and everything. Your drink's there. A... so we... you, you and the Securicor... you made that dance last night.
[speaker004:] Why?
[Terri:] Because it's so fucking cold down there! And then when, when it's cold down there I
[speaker004:] Gotta make cups of tea coming down... every half hour.
[Terri:] Is that enough? Is that in your tee?
[speaker004:] I can run home and get some.
[Terri:] No you can't cos Ken, Ken's not coming in till half ten.
[speaker004:] Eh?... What's he on, part time?
[Terri:] Yeah, it was... five o'clock this morning when we got out of here.
[speaker004:] Was it?
[Terri:] Oh!
[Barry:] What for now? Finally decided
[Terri:] He
[Barry:] now.
[Terri:] he brought the be... the bloody ants back last night didn't they?
[Barry:] Oh it's... erm
[speaker004:] Yeah, but... it was only about half three the week before.
[Terri:] Yeah, that was the little ant. We had the big ants back with... just all talk. And there's seventy five
[Barry:] What do we, what do we like to stock.
[Terri:] We need Pils.
[Barry:] She never said that today.
[Terri:] There were what we got delivered yesterday... was all we had, apart from a few bottles
[Barry:] Yeah I know that.
[Terri:] and it was a... four barrels of Carlsberg.
[Barry:] No, no, no. No, no, no, no! I, cos I brought three crates of Pa Pils the day before. Thur Thursday.
[Terri:] Were they in the cellar?
[Barry:] No they were... oh no we brought them up and put on the shelf.
[Terri:] Oh well everything's up.
[Barry:] Is everything up out the cellar?
[Terri:] Oh, is that is that
[Hugh:] Barry.
[Terri:] Hugh? What have
[Barry:] Hughey.
[Terri:] you got in the cellar?
[Barry:] Hughey. Have we got anything in the cellar?
[Hugh:] Some, you told us that.
[Barry:] Well anyway, check. Erm... well
[Hugh:] Well... ah!
[Barry:] What?
[Hugh:] Could you change that?
[Barry:] What is it?
[Hugh:] It's a giro.
[Barry:] Well yeah, I can at some stage.
[Hugh:] Well, er no but it's that little lad that hangs around at Chrissie's.
[Terri:] Chris is looking for you.
[Hugh:] Yeah, he's just in there.
[Terri:] Oh.
[Barry:] What is it?
[Hugh:] It's a Giro for seventy nine pound.
[Barry:] Well I can't at the moment can I?
[Hugh:] No, obviously. So
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] Well put another five cases of Pils.
[Hugh:] Well do you want me to go in the cellar see what we've got?
[Barry:] Yeah, well... well hang on a, hang on a sec
[Hugh:] Well you might do, cos I'm not sure on there.
[Barry:] Hang on a sec Hughey, before you do that, do you think we'll be able to get any change from th... from erm [music] What?
[Hugh:] Yeah. Do you want me to go and see?
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean
[Hugh:] I'll get some while I'm out, give me some money. Well, it
[Barry:] Well, no
[Hugh:] might be enough to cover it.
[Barry:] Terri told
[Terri:] Well what's that?
[Hugh:] That's for the whisky.
[Barry:] Terri to
[Terri:] Oh that's Jean's office money.
[Barry:] Terri took some... money but she couldn't get any... change so
[Terri:] I couldn't get any.
[Barry:] just stick that in the till... Terri, can you?
[Hugh:] You gonna come down?
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah, I'll come, I'll come down with you. Erm... what are you, what have you got here?
[Hugh:] I dunno.
[Terri:] Er, seventy five. Eighty five
[Barry:] Well basically
[Terri:] altogether.
[Barry:] basically we need the pounds and
[Terri:] Everything.
[Barry:] fifties and
[Terri:] Everything.
[Hugh:] Twenties, and tens
[Terri:] Everything.
[Hugh:] and fives?
[Terri:] We've got plenty of copper. Don't get any copper.
[Hugh:] We were absolutely fucked! We hadn't even... we for fifty fucking P!
[Terri:] What did I say to you? Forty P in copper.
[Hugh:] That's all we could do.
[Terri:] Eh up! I've got Jean's office key now. Oh, and Jean's front door key.
[Hugh:] I bet Jean's office, I bet Jean's office key is fucking Jean's
[Barry:] Are you?
[Terri:] It's my.
[Hugh:] I erm
[Barry:] Forty, sixty, seventy
[Terri:] It's the office and the front door that are Jean's then.
[Barry:] seventy five.
[Hugh:] I'll get somebody out here as well if you hurry up and give me that.
[Barry:] Seventy five's not enough is it?
[Terri:] Well, that's what they gave me.
[Hugh:] We'll get the... we'll get some on the front door as soon people are.
[Barry:] Well I need thirty for the front door don't I?
[Hugh:] Shit! Of course, yeah.... Right well yo well you might as well bring it down I'll see if I can somebody
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] in, so
[Barry:] Alright.
[Terri:] And I'll get these... sorted out.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Get, Terri, get security to give you erm... a hand and get the shutters open, at least
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] when you're ready and... Hughey?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] So... last night was reasonably busy was it?
[Hugh:] Oh! Fucking good night! A great atmosphere as well.
[Barry:] Was it? Yeah, Jean said there was about two hund two hundred sitting
[Hugh:] I took about, I took about six hundred.
[Barry:] Have you?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Oh! Good.... Jean said there was about two hundred in or something.
[Hugh:] Well, Ken said three hundred people, but there's no way there was three
[Barry:] No.
[Hugh:] hundred people. But, they reckon it was about a hundred and ninety in. Or did they
[Barry:] I mean he gave, he gave fifty baps away.
[Hugh:] Yeah. You know but were all the you know the short ones and everything and he had a blitz on them.... Where are we at?
[Barry:] Eh?
[Hugh:] Where are we going?....
[Barry:] Alright. It's gonna be... it's gonna be er... eleven o sort of eleven o'clockish before I'm gonna have to go.
[Hugh:] Okay then..... [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yeah. Do you wanna just see if there's anything in there and
[Hugh:] Yeah. [cough]... Have you got any
[Barry:] Ah yeah.
[Hugh:] I don't think there is.
[Barry:] No, I, I don't think there is, but
[Hugh:] [clears throat]
[Barry:] five cases of Pils.
[Hugh:] No, there can't be anything there because Terri said she'd brought it all upstairs as soon as the brewery bought it in.
[Barry:] Yeah, but you're, you're
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] a bit keen aren't you?... The cra we'll bring everything up.
[Hugh:] I I... brought a... barrel of lager for er... from downstairs and then it's all that we had..... Yeah. Terri could always go back and get started with this.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [cough]
[Barry:] Cos I could... we could do with getting a... a case, erm... do you think we need a case of cans of Pils?
[Hugh:] How many have we got?
[Barry:] She said about four or five cases.
[Hugh:] I dunno. Put it up there.
[Barry:] Probably will actually. I mean, we only go to eight normally on a, a Friday and Saturday.
[Hugh:] ... Yeah we sold a lot last night.
[Barry:] Have we, have we got ma have we got any Red Stripe?
[Hugh:] Not a lot.
[Barry:] Yeah, but I mean we've got some Red Stripe
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] have we? A couple of cases or something?
[Hugh:] I dunno I've not checked like. Terry said she was doing the stock so I left it to her.
[Barry:] Where are we going? [in car]
[Hugh:] Well the upstairs, downstairs. Hopefully it'll still be open.
[Barry:] Open till ten o'clock?
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] Ten to ten. I don't think there's any point. So we need, pound coins, fifties
[Hugh:] You'll need forty pounds won't you?
[Barry:] Need forty of pounds
[Hugh:] Well that's a, that's
[Barry:] We need twenty of
[Hugh:] Fifties.
[Barry:] fifties
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] Yeah we do. Ten for the front door and ten for the... till. That's sixty. And fifteen quid of erm
[Hugh:] Tens.
[Barry:] tens.
[Hugh:] Oh.
[Barry:] And you've got, you've got copper we can use for... for five Ps haven't we?
[Hugh:] Yeah.... [cough]
[Barry:] I'll see if we can get any more I've got, I, I've got er... got another twenty quid.... Is it open?
[Hugh:] See if I can get a
[Barry:] Okay.
[Hugh:] from here.
[Barry:] There's seventy five there.
[Hugh:] And you want forty worth of pound coins
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] twenty and fifties. Aha. And tens?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] And twenties? I'll get twenties and ten pence if you want?
[Barry:] Well... yeah, don't really matter does it?
[Hugh:] No, they're fucking stuck! Thirty quid, that's it. Fuck! I, I might get forty pounds at the Empire... Ballroom.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Hugh:] He's difficult.
[Barry:] Well he...
[Hugh:] He give me fucking
[Barry:] I'll tell you
[Hugh:] ... he give me some a couple of months ago when we.
[Barry:] Well I'm er... he wants me to
[Hugh:] He just needs showing.
[Barry:] He wants me... I mean... he wants to do me a favour, Paul, so he might gi he might, you know I mean he... say for us, I mean for us he would
[Hugh:] Yeah, well Peter's alright, he'll cash you.... I hope. [LAUGHTER]... So I got thirty, thirty in tens so
[Barry:] Mm.
[Hugh:] Ah Jesus! Well, oh, oh seventy five you give me did you?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Oh right. I should have give him a fiver.
[Barry:] The only other one is
[Hugh:] [sigh]... Anne?
[Barry:] No. She's at... she won't. Er... what do you call him across at the er
[Hugh:] Oh! Right.. Absolutely. [whistling]
[Barry:] Yeah. What do we want? We just
[Hugh:] Well we've
[Barry:] we wa
[Hugh:] got forty five now, we want pound coins and erm
[Barry:] I thought we're going there?
[Hugh:] I don't really know what he's given me here.... If it's a lot of tens. I'll get instead of fifties and fucking we just give them the five pound
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] . And
[Barry:] Yeah, I'll soon get some fifties back. I mean, it just needs some early on that's all.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And twenties. And a bag of twenties don't you? Yeah, thirty quid. These are twenty and fifties... and tens.... Where's best way? Just down straight there?
[Hugh:] Yeah. Yeah.... [cough]
[Barry:] I'll turn it round while you... you nip in. What time is it?
[Alan:] Ten.
[Barry:] Ten?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] That's alright. I'll be on. What d'ya say, half ten did he say?
[Alan:] Ken?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] There's only thirteen cans of Red Stripe left. Four and a half cases full.
[Barry:] So that's twenty five cases?
[Hugh:] ... Yeah..
[Barry:] Okay.... Where is he do you know? Ken?
[Hugh:] Dunno.
[Alan:] He's at er, Terri said he's not coming in so
[Barry:] Well, he's at some de there's some firms do or something on apparently
[Alan:] Right.
[Barry:] that he's got... should
[Alan:] Got
[Barry:] should make an appearance at or something.
[Alan:] Oh well.
[Barry:] I mean, nothing happens till
[Alan:] Well just say, like last night we didn't open till half ten... really, you don't get anybody in at... before then.
[Barry:] No. I mean it's just when er, he's basically
[Alan:] It's like
[Barry:] going for the bus innit? That
[Alan:] Yeah.... But you get like them thing or owt.
[Barry:] Yeah. Cos it were sat there with er... couple of, [LAUGHTER] couple of cans of lager [].
[Alan:] Well when I, I saw him come in door... at this end... and I thought oh well, I'll follow them see if they've gone back and they were sat, well it must have been behind the back
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] and I looked... oh
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] did say
[Barry:] Oh
[Alan:] like, you know.
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Well one of them went to erm... one of them went to the er... toilet or something and left a... an open full can there and Hughey, so Hughey just picked it up
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] oh thank you! He said, eh you, you can't do that! [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Course you can.
[Barry:] What d'ya think you're doing here?... So I helped.
[Alan:] Bloody good night last night.
[Barry:] Yeah. Erm
[Alan:] We
[Barry:] No I think it was, I think it was... just over two hundred on, but I don't think it was
[Alan:] Terri reckons about three fifty.
[Barry:] Nah!
[Alan:] But erm
[Barry:] I think she's getting carried away a bit there.
[Alan:] Probably. She was.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... She, probably try and impress on us how hard she worked.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] That won't be very hard.
[Barry:] No.... Oh dear! Eh?
[Alan:] Well my daughter's like... really and into rave so I.... But now with that... well I've done my head in!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... True. I was gonna say, I didn't think it was your type of music.
[Alan:] No. This isn't... really.
[Barry:] Innit?
[Alan:] But I can stand this better than that one
[Barry:] Yeah. Why what is... your type
[Alan:] Motown
[Barry:] of music?
[Alan:] Status Quo, Genesis... Fleetwood Mac... and a bit of Motown on there.... Some as well actually.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] You get used to it.
[Barry:] Mm. Better than Thursday night when Mick 's doing it, when he's doing the er... sort of thrash metal for
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] an hour and half solid!
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] A bit heavy going. I sound like, I sound like my mum and dad though when I'm criticizing it, you know. All sounds the same, it's just a noise... [LAUGHTER] and you know, you can't th the words []!
[Alan:] Well you
[Barry:] You sound like your mum and dad criticizing the music, you know. Sixties and seventies.
[Alan:] Ninety perce ninety percent of records in charts today there's no words anyway are they?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] It's all music.
[Barry:] No that's right. So, anyway, it's not even that is it? It's all computerized today
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] so er
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] electrical effects and
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] Do that, bloody wanna tape on.
[Hugh:] Well you are... we can get... Dawn's brother if you want.
[Barry:] Well if I knew who the hell Dawn's brother was!
[Hugh:] Well I'll take him to see
[Alan:] And he wears
[Hugh:] I mean he's a big skinny with glasses and whatever.
[Terri:] You got some change have you?
[Hugh:] But nobody else.
[Barry:] Yeah. I did.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] My hero! Shut up!
[Terri:] and rock and roll. Your hero?
[Barry:] [shouting] Hughey []!
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] How are we off for Newquay?
[Hugh:] We've got loads. We haven't sold any of those for a long time.
[Barry:] Ah!
[Hugh:] We may need some bottles here packing up.
[Barry:] Right. Okay.... Well what time are you coming next, next week?
[Alan:] I'll do... eight.... Says he's gonna open tomorrow night.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] There's a set of gamblers on a Friday night so... we er fucking try to use some more... it wasn't
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] open at four.
[Barry:] [sighing] Ooh []!
[Alan:] Jean's in... next week, yeah?... Big city job.
[Barry:] Oh yeah, yeah.
[Alan:] Bet you fucking lay down the law alright.
[Barry:] See... she sounds like a wimp though. My anguish, my life's shattered sort of thing! God! The last thing I'd do when I get Mr.
[Alan:] Especially when.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []. Yeah.
[Alan:] It's a, is it in, and he's just saying that... the develop redevelopment starts in autumn?
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean I
[Alan:] Summat in autumn.
[Barry:] I think it's, I think that's erm... well it's not exactly a bluff, but it's, it's a case of... er... what they hope will happ hope will happen. Er... I don't think are pulling out but they, they've suspended... things, but I mean they just don't know if they're competing. They just the politics.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I mean, they can't possibly erm... you know, cos they
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] can't, you can't accuse... just Jean of corruption, they've got to... they've got to accuse... the development corporation of corruption as well. You know, cos you can't be corrupt just on one person, you've gotta have two people playing
[Alan:] Oh aye.
[Barry:] but, you know. So th to a, you know, and as said, you know we... [LAUGHTER]... erm we don't need to bribe anybody to come into Morecambe.
[Alan:] Right.
[Barry:] You know... nobody else would come in! [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] No, that's it.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] You know, that's just my point, you know [].
[Alan:] Nobody wants to come here and spend money do they?
[Barry:] No. Oh well!... It just, I think it, I think it affected us last week so... erm... cos the, the Friday night was well down.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] It was only, only about ninety people... two hundred people... Friday. I think it was overspeculated in the press that we've... sold the premises and it, it... well gave the impression that perhaps we might be open... you know, some people might not think we're open even.
[Alan:] Well that's what, what I said on Saturday
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] they didn't think they'd be open, you know.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] When they come for tea, you know
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] on Friday, thought they were closed.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] And if you're coming through from Lancaster, you know, as soon a it's a far old drag innit? After the pubs are closed, on the off-chance, I mean, cos if you get here what the hell do you do if... not as if you've got an alternative is there?
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] You know. If yo if you're gonna come here yo... you're the ki not on a Saturday night, you're not the kind of clientele that's gonna go to the Empire
[Alan:] Oh no.
[Barry:] Prince's Tea Rooms and so... you gotta traipse all the way back into Lancaster to go
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] to The Alley.
[Alan:] Yeah.... What like, putting a bus on which... shows you that you was open like, you know
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] put a bus on on a Wednesday night.
[Barry:] Yeah, that's right.
[Alan:] So... How do!
[Barry:] Oh! Hello Mark.
[Mark:] Hi.
[Alan:] It must be cold, it's bloody coming off you.
[Mark:] Bloody freezing out there!
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Oh well!
[Barry:] Are you su are you sure the heating's on?
[Alan:] Terri turned it on.
[Barry:] I know. I just wonder sometimes when Terri turns things on.
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] It is very cold!
[Barry:] Last... last time she put the ventilation on instead. Can you just hang about here I'll just... go and check.
[Mark:] Okay.
[Barry:] Bet it's blasting cold air out... for an hour!
[Alan:] Anyway, sod though Mark!
[Mark:] What about it?
[Alan:] Well you're a wor you're a blooming... big girl! You can't stand the cold. [music]
[Barry:] Cor! It's the, blasting the heat out in there Mark. I don't know
[Mark:] Is it though?
[Barry:] Yes.
[Hugh:] Oh it's
[Barry:] It's phew! What a scorcher! There's people up there in their underpants!
[Hugh:] Well I wanna see the people that
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] It's nothing to do with the climate.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Am I right in... in thinking that we're having some new speakers?
[Barry:] Yes. Why? Well, what we're doing is putting the erm... ha! We're putting the... the... tannoy system back in.
[Mark:] Right.
[Barry:] Into operation.
[Alan:] and everything's back out again
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Alan:] and it's
[Mark:] Right.
[Barry:] Well you know the oogamyflip's du in there. Four speakers... around the dance floor... and er two big bass things.
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] Mick's gonna, getting those together and
[Mark:] Yeah I know. Cos they, they kept blowing before though didn't they, those? If I remember rightly.
[Barry:] Well... yeah.
[Alan:] Did they?
[Barry:] Yeah, but it was only really, we had that... we had those soul D Js that, that, that were blowing them that was the problem.
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And they shouldn't have blown.
[Mark:] Now there's some... mild mannered rock D J to
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER]... to look after the speakers.
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] True.... I hear you were at the Empire the other night?
[Mark:] I was indeed, yes. Just sniffing about, you know... see what's going on.
[Barry:] How many were in?
[Mark:] Four hundred or so.
[Barry:] That bad is it?
[Mark:] Wednesday night!... Cos I thought, I was quite impressed. And I thought
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] flipping hell! They're doing summat right. He's bashing down from the campus.
[Barry:] How much is it to get in?
[Mark:] A quid. [sniff]... Cheap drinks.
[Barry:] Yeah well I mean... a quid a pint or something isn't it?
[Mark:] Yeah. A pound a pint for lager, and one twenty for Pils. That's
[Barry:] I mean, so there's... he's still making a reasonable mark- up on that.
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean... well, not a reasonable mar he's still making money on the drinks
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] it's not as if you're like... selling them at cost and making a few pence because
[Mark:] Mm mm. No. I must say I was quite surpri I've never set foot in the place before... since that time... we went down... before it was open.
[Barry:] Yeah. Really?
[Mark:] Mhm. Mm. Yeah, I've got my band playing down there in a couple of weeks. You know, Line Birds. Cos, they'll be down there.
[Barry:] Oh! Your la your lads?
[Mark:] Yeah. At the er... and they have a band on... that night that I just called on for the
[Barry:] Is that the one that... they had some problems with the er... rugby club?
[Mark:] Yeah. And they were standing in the front as I'm going
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Like this. And they we I don't think they were very amused.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... The band or the rugby club?
[Mark:] Yeah, er... well both
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER] by all account []!... Well I dunno, I don't know what it is. Very unusual. They start... wanker bit, you know, it's like all they... tend
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] to do.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Mark:] They're only small lads, you know, sort of playing... guitars and stuff.
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] I don't think they were gonna play anything.
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Because there's only a couple, they only had a couple of security guards didn't they?
[Mark:] Ooh! I know.
[Alan:] Outside.
[Barry:] Well
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Nigel was saying that they only had a couple, you know, cos they... like you
[Mark:] Well it's hard to tell, the manager's a bouncer isn't he? Er... he looked
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Paul? He used to be
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] he used to, he used to do... bouncer there, yeah.
[Mark:] Yeah I... swore I'd seen him before.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] I couldn't work out where I'd seen him.
[Barry:] He was here from the very first cos he worked for Hills, you know that sort of
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] gangster crew from Blackpool!
[Mark:] Mhm.
[Barry:] Erm, he worked, he was their sort of erm... they had a few... clubs and pubs in this area at the time and er
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] he was that sort of... head of the...
[Mark:] Yeah, I know what yo yeah, I'm sure I'd seen him before.
[Barry:] And troubleshot around... various establishments.... Then he went so solo, he... he got erm... er doing regular thing up at erm... Ocean Heads I think, or summat.
[Mark:] Oh!
[Barry:] But definitely... so he sort of went on his own and then... went back into building and decorating and then... when the Empire opened he started there from the off. But now he sort of seems to be with other contracts.
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] Cos the last I see he's been made redundant now hasn't he? Oh! You don't know it, you won't know it then.
[Mark:] No.
[Barry:] Then Mar this guy called Mark is there I think. But Paul's head over that now so I mean... he's doing well for himself.
[Mark:] Mm. Yeah, well I was erm... I was trying to get... get a night down there deejaying... as well.
[Barry:] I wa I was told you had got one.
[Mark:] Mm?
[Barry:] I was told you'd got one or two?
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] In fact, I was told you'd got two nights!
[Mark:] Have I? [LAUGHTER] Oh! That's nice to know isn't it []?
[Barry:] Well it was from the er... you know... Radio Lancashire... Nigel misfit!
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER] Oh I see []!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Well, fair enough. No, I mean I went in, I was talking to this, this bloke
[Barry:] Walking round bit of Pathay News!
[Mark:] so I thought... Yeah. Entertainment's Manager
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] sort of DJs every night
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] and
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] he was sort of been doing this job for a week.
[Barry:] He's booked a load of bands ain't he?
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] What d'ya think they... but I mean, well, I mean I'm a little bit out of touch on that sort of
[Mark:] Well he's
[Barry:] level, I mean
[Mark:] been doing Two Unlimited, Rosearre and all
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] this sort of... you know, these sort of... sort of wa what are P P A jobs really.
[Barry:] Yes. Yeah.
[Mark:] Sing a couple of songs and er
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] over a backing tape and... and that's it. I don't know cos I've never actually erm... been in a place where they've done sort of thing really.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] Two Unlimited's the first one I think. Well they've er, done a couple of... couple of
[Barry:] I mean if that does, er er, I mean Two Unlimited ought to do alright. If
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] if it, if it's gonna do alright then that'll... be
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] reasonable. But it's getting a bit carried away, I mean, he was talking to Nigel about er... doing er... the Levellers in er
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] in the tent, you know. Doubt if you put, oh, we can put four and half thousand people into that!
[Alan:] Well,.
[Mark:] Well, yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Yeah, he was also he said most of them, he said er
[Barry:] Seven hundred in the Sugar House maybe.
[Mark:] well they're playing Guild Hall aren't they?
[Barry:] Yeah, but yeah. Difference between playing Guild Hall and filling Guild Hall.
[Mark:] Mm. True. I dunno they're, they're damn popular if only, I mean
[Barry:] Yeah. I know
[Mark:] It was one of the best
[Barry:] but I would, I wouldn't have sa
[Mark:] selling albums of last year.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I wouldn't, I, I mean, yeah, but I mean I wouldn't have thought... I mean they're certainly
[Mark:] No it wouldn't do four thousand
[Barry:] No.
[Mark:] I mean
[Barry:] I mean I wouldn't
[Mark:] you
[Barry:] No.
[Mark:] know.
[Barry:] I would have thought that... for Morecambe they're probably looking at like a thousand... eleven hundred people if, you know
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] would be a good one. I would have thought.
[Mark:] Yeah. Well I'm sort of like.
[Barry:] Depends on timing
[Mark:] Foot in the door a bit see, see if I can sort of, you know
[Ken:] You alright?
[Barry:] Hello Kenneth?
[Alan:] Alright.
[Mark:] I'm just starting to. You know, what he's doing really so
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Mark:] sort of well a couple of nights deejaying will do me for a start really.
[Barry:] Who's doing a Wednesday night then?
[Mark:] Well, he's doing it, last wee I wouldn't mind doing the Wednesday actually cos... I can do that sort of... you know, student discos, you know, so
[Barry:] Yep.
[Mark:] and I don't have to go to work on Thursday, so... you know... th that always helps.
[Barry:] Right.
[Mark:] So... likewise the Saturday nights here, I'm alright I don't have to get up in the morning.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Mark:] Ha.... Yeah.
[Barry:] What is it on Wednesday, is it ten till, ten till two, or nine till two or
[Mark:] Erm
[Barry:] what do they do a bus shuttle?
[Mark:] Er, I think they have, I think they'd have, I think they have two buses on er er... a week so... and then they go back if there's any more.
[Barry:] It's a long haul that innit though?
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] Here. I mean, how many students are from Morecambe nowadays? Er, d'ya know?
[Mark:] I've no idea.
[Barry:] Must be a fair number.
[Mark:] I've no idea to be honest. There's not as many as there used to be.
[Barry:] No. No, no, no. I mean we... when I... when I came here... it was virtually, virtually half, half the population of that. And then there was... maybe a thousand people out of out of Morecambe.
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] That's it. And the Uni was then only about two thousand eight hundred strong.
[Mark:] Mm. But there's quite a lot of erm... development in Lancaster now. They're doing loads of... erm, flats and there's all those, all that stuff round... Highcross area.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] But....
[Barry:] Is it?
[Mark:] I think so, but... well that's part of St. Martin's College really, isn't it that er
[Barry:] Some of it is. I thought some of it was the Uni. But, you know, I mean, if the Uni goes to ten thousand in... what... what is it, it's getting up for about ninety five, ninety six? It's quite quick.
[Mark:] Something like that.
[Barry:] It's
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] very quick... really. Yeah, I mean that, well it's only fo well it's four, five thousand now? But I mean you're talking
[Mark:] Six.
[Barry:] It's five. Well, whatever.
[Mark:] Six.
[Barry:] You're talking about
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] doubling in size basically aren't you in, in... in the next three years?
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] That's going some!
[Mark:] Well then I'll have to get an extension.
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]... It's like sardines now in there.
[Barry:] Yeah.... I know, it's unpleasant innit?
[Hugh:] It's always been popular along with students ain't it?
[Barry:] Aye.
[Alan:] Like the only pub that is.
[Mark:] Well Barry's doing alright now.
[Barry:] Is he?
[Mark:] He's sort of got students in there... new landlord and all that so I think. It's always packed out with students these days.
[Barry:] Must have got some student then?
[Mark:] That's right.
[Hugh:] It's er
[Barry:] Mind you, it's convenient for the Sugar House innit?
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I mean I always thought, I always thought The Tramway... The Yorkshire, and were always gonna do quite well out the Sugar House
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] but in actual fact... it, it was only really The Yorkshire House did anything... direct
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] out of it.
[Mark:] Whereas the was that
[Barry:] And, cos Carole went in
[Mark:] grotty little pub though weren't
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] it?
[Barry:] Really, I mean
[Mark:] Yeah. Yeah, but it should have done alright.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] What's that er
[Mark:] And they, sort of a young sort of landlord, you know, and he sort of was into his real ales and he got guest beers in and all this sort of thing which got a better.
[Barry:] What you talking about, The Firing Arm?
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] Yeah.... There's that free house, that's... quite a one innit? Just along the er
[Alan:] Oh that place, yeah.
[Barry:] The Lord Nelson or whatever it's called.
[Hugh:] Lord Ashton.
[Barry:] Lord Ashton, that's it.
[Hugh:] What used to be The Safe.
[Barry:] It used to be The Safe didn't it?
[Mark:] And they've got a bloody... outside toilet haven't they?
[Barry:] I well it's not i it's... have you been in since they did it up?
[Mark:] Once, yeah.
[Barry:] And it's er bi bigger now than when it was befo I mean, before it was all... I remember when they stuck a pool table in there and it was bloody dreadful!
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] Went down to play pool once and I ha... two pool teams in there and you couldn't move in the place.
[Alan:] Oh ye yeah, I remember actually, I played there once.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Before it was done up.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Mm. Well we used to, I mean, I don't think did they?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] That might be an idea, a DJ [].
[Hugh:] Not in there.
[Alan:] There bloody is!
[Barry:] There is! There's two punters.
[Alan:] They'll sit in the corridor!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... Well that's cos the records are crap!
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER] Shit! Down Quinnen Street. North of
[Barry:] Oh yeah!
[Mark:] And we got
[Alan:] last year.
[Barry:] And he's a funny old guy! And I wasn't even talking when, I didn't know him from... we were talking to him one night. I mean... he doesn't have, sort of, consistent opening or anything... he opens when he fancies doesn't he? Half se half seven
[Alan:] Or he don't open at all.
[Barry:] eight o'clock at night and... yeah, that's right.
[Alan:] One day they're open and
[Mark:] I went there one Sunday, I thought we'll have a meal... but when I looked I said no chance!
[Barry:] Mm.
[Mark:] Here's Ken. Bloody hell! He's in at last.
[Ken:] Good evening people! How we doing?
[Mark:] Hi.
[Barry:] Evening.
[Alan:] Evening.
[Ken:] Is it on?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Ted said it weren't on.
[Barry:] Yeah it was.
[Mark:] Oh I'm glad you said that.
[Barry:] No!
[Ken:] You alright Barry?
[Alan:] Actually.
[Ken:] Sort of
[Barry:] Ken!
[Ken:] weren't... yeah?
[Barry:] Are you coming back down?
[Ken:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Can you bring me a... pint of lime and lemon... with some i lots of ice?
[Ken:] Yeah, course I can.
[Barry:] Cheers, thanks.
[Mark:] Aye, we were gonna go in for a Sunday dinner once and... it was all shut, can't have my dinner.
[Barry:] What, in the Lord Ashton?
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Does he... ah he does meals don't he?
[Mark:] Does meals.
[Barry:] What are they like? Have you e
[Mark:] I've never been in I were
[Barry:] No.
[Mark:] just gonna try it. Summat different.
[Barry:] Oh.
[Alan:] He's got a sports club coming off soon.
[Mark:] Mm. I think I might be going in for it. Yeah.
[Alan:] A couple of them.
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Alan:] All them traffic wardens.
[Barry:] Ha!... He did have er... when he opened, of course, he was one of the few houses to have... in Lancaster to have Boddy didn't they? They had Boddys on the bar.
[Mark:] Still got Boddingtons
[Barry:] Yeah, I know, but like everybody's got Boddys now ain't they? And Whitbread's taken them over... bunging them in everywhere aren't they? I mean... it only, it only used to be like the... The Plough and... and... The Bath and er... New Inn and
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] innit really and... now every pub, as I say every pub's got it on tap. I mean, it's not as nice a pint as... now that Whitbread's have taken over and... half the time.
[Mark:] They reckon Lancastrians have got a good pint of Boddys.
[Barry:] The one on Lancaster Road?
[Mark:] No, the er... the one back at.
[Alan:] Babkins now ain't it?
[Barry:] Babkins yeah.
[Mark:] Oh right. Well they've got a good pint of Ruddles.
[Alan:] Aha.
[Mark:] Someone from work was saying they went in.
[Barry:] God! I haven't been in there for years!... And th when it was the Lancastrian you know.
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... Used to have a disco upstairs. One of the first pubs in Lancaster
[Alan:] That's right.
[Barry:] to have a disco up... a regular part of the pub.
[Mark:] Well Lancers?
[Barry:] Yeah. Or the Lancastrian as it
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] was then
[Mark:] Yeah.... What I was gonna ask you actually... erm... or maybe I should ask Jean, I don't know... erm
[Barry:] Who?
[Mark:] March
[Barry:] Oh yes.
[Mark:] erm
[Barry:] No, ask me... she won't be around... then.
[Mark:] Right.
[Barry:] What?
[Mark:] Saturday night
[Barry:] Yep.
[Mark:] A wedding... private until... eleven o'clock
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] they don't want a, they don't want a buffet or anything or... just like that, just sort of
[Barry:] Yeah, fine.
[Mark:] get them down, and whatever, nine o'clock or whatever
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] they want a... time to start.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] And they're all the... same sort of punters anyway, sort
[Barry:] Mm.
[Mark:] of
[Barry:] Well I mean, are you planning on talking to them beforehand?
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] Well
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] it's not too bad, it doesn't matter what you play.
[Mark:] Mm. Yeah, I mean I was gonna say there's
[Barry:] Yeah, I mean, as long as it, as long as it kind of they know that it might change slightly after... eleven.
[Mark:] Yeah. Well that's it. I mean, it's no it's not old, it's not the sort of folk and everything, it's just all
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Mark:] sort of mates and stuff like
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] that.
[Barry:] Fine. You wanna do it from what, half eight el half eight they wanted till eleven or
[Mark:] Right.
[Barry:] No problem! How many are you talking about?
[Mark:] Er, I don't know yet. Erm... couple of hundred maybe. Probably less. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] How much is it? Yeah I was gonna say, I've heard these before []!
[Mark:] Well I know but I meant
[Barry:] Private bookings.
[Mark:] the trouble is, I mean they're looking for somewhere... to have it.
[Barry:] I've given out three hundred invites and sit around with
[Mark:] Well that's reminded me the erm
[Barry:] twenty people.
[Mark:] the erm... Lancy's is one of the places they were thinking of, upstairs.
[Barry:] Aha.
[Mark:] Alright. But the chances are nobody'll wanna go till after the pubs anyway with these dos so, cos it's not actually... and, they're having a sort of reception... after the wedding
[Barry:] Right.
[Mark:] for erm... everyone in the family and wanting a... a night do you know for
[Barry:] Mm.
[Mark:] for all their mates and... such like.
[Barry:] When's the... when is the wedding, or when's the reception? And where?
[Mark:] Well it's all on the same day. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] I reali I realized it was on the same day Mark.
[Mark:] No but it, oh right. Er, erm, Saturday the
[Barry:] No, a time... what time are they... planning
[Mark:] Oh I don't know yet.
[Barry:] Is there a gap, I mean how big is the gap between like the reception and the party kind of thing?
[Mark:] Er, I haven't got a clue.
[Barry:] I mean, are they likely to run into one another? Are people likely to stay in one and
[Mark:] Oh no, no, I don't think so. No. I think the morning wedding, then a af sort of... mi midday
[Barry:] Mm.
[Mark:] reception.... In Torrizone... or is it Garstone?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] Married in Torrizone
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] reception in... er Gallgate.
[Barry:] I've got... oh the Gallgate. What?
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Right there in Morecambe. [LAUGHTER]... And be
[Alan:] So... with, with a bunch of flowers.
[Mark:] I don't know. Anyway, and I mean, just a, I mean it might not happen it was just like
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] I said, well that'll probably be alright if they wanna do it. Cos they wanted me to do the disco you see.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] And I said well I'm working that night. They said, well how about... you know
[Barry:] Yeah.... Who is it? Are they people... I know and not rough.
[Mark:] Erm
[Barry:] How d'ya know them? I mean what's, who is it?
[Mark:] Er, you, they come, they've been in here before with
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] the sort of lads. I don't know them very well.... With glasses.
[Barry:] They've been in here and they still want you to do the disco!
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Hey! I'm Mark.
[Mark:] Well that's right.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Top man me! Top man!
[Barry:] Eh! I tell you
[Mark:] Top man!
[Barry:] what last Saturday
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] I had Alistaire singing your praises!
[Mark:] Alistaire who?
[Barry:] Alistaire, as in... loony, psychopath Alistaire! [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Oh right. [LAUGHTER] Why's that then []?
[Barry:] Well, he was talk we were talking about the rave and th what was wrong with it... and he was saying basically it was... they'd got four DJs who were all techno... and they were like brilliant! He said, you know... that you won't get better
[Hugh:] techno D's outside London and then, even then they could pushing it, I mean, they're all their own mixes... do all their own mixes and
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] you know, they're, and the scratching guy he said is... best he's ever heard anywhere. He said, but... it's the same [LAUGHTER] all night long, you know []. And I said, well... I know nothing about that kind of music but that's the impression I got, I was just stood there at the bar thinking... that last, last Friday it's not the same one..., thinking, you know, this is just... this is just very samey... it
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] sounds really samey. So erm... oh, cheers mate! So he said yeah, he said it's like, you know it's like if played erm
[Mark:] That
[Barry:] you know, thrash all night long on a Saturday night you're gonna have fifty, sixty people who think it's wonderful... but you're never gonna get more than fifty, sixty people. Erm... so he ju he was taking it... over for a couple of weeks. Anyway
[Mark:] Alright?
[Hugh:] Hello there. You know
[Barry:] cutting a long story short.... Saying how good you were. He said to say, cos he, we were talking about DJs in general and how basically if... performing artist if anything else, you know, you've still gotta react to your audience and all that sort of thing.
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and he's er... yes... er
[Mark:] What the hell does he know anyway?
[Barry:] He was saying you taught, he, he taught him everything he knows!
[Mark:] [LAUGHTER]... Ho!
[Barry:] This didn't say Alistaire that I know and love. He was saying how he used to... stand awestruck in the Sugar House and listen to you all night long!
[Mark:] And learnt all the tricks of the trade.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... I thought he always there I thought Mark in the Sugar House he was... drunk
[Alan:] [cough]
[Barry:] most of the time. You know
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah [], that's why he was so good. [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] No, I said to Dean he was. Will I give him a job there?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... And anyway... [LAUGHTER]... you ought to try, you ought to have tried telling him a few! [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Mm. Yeah, well... he does get a bit of... over the top
[Barry:] No, No. I mean this was like... this was like
[Mark:] I mean, he's not even
[Barry:] midday on a Saturday.
[Mark:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah. No adrenalin buzzing, no.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Well he doesn't drink any more but
[Mark:] No.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] He's given up smoking as well hasn't he?
[Barry:] Aye. He was actually reasonably... reasonably pleasant. Except when he went off into fi fantasy land. Battling up and down motorways in [LAUGHTER] cars []! Sorting out drug dealers the length and breadth of the British Isles!
[Mark:] Oh yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Regular Robin Hood.
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Stop and search him.
[Barry:] Yeah. Rob Roy.
[Mark:] Yeah, well at least it's only
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] Rob Roy []!
[Mark:] he owes me anyway.
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] That he's owed me for... a year! Just about.
[Barry:] What was that from?
[Mark:] Nothing.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Mark:] Well he's got himself a B M W and he can't pay... pay his record bill.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Mark:] Ooh!
[Barry:] Sounds like Trevor to me.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Is Trevor still buying? What happened with Brooks?
[Mark:] Dunno. But I sa but I knew Mick was doing
[Alan:] or something
[Mark:] I know that.
[Barry:] It's what?
[Alan:] He's so open.
[Barry:] Oh yeah! Ye yeah. Er er I know, I know. I just wonder what's I... last I heard they were... the receiver was trying to pull it into the collapse but er
[Mark:] Oh! Don't know.
[Alan:] I thought they did quite well. I thought it was go make a club.
[Barry:] Well it's the only club in, in Lancaster that's that's the problem.
[Hugh:] Yeah, he always seems to fiddle.
[Barry:] Well I mean the Sugar House is
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] is
[Mark:] Mm.
[Barry:] a student place and always will
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] be and
[Mark:] It is crap!
[Barry:] What Brook?
[Mark:] Brook. Cos those
[Barry:] Oh I know.
[Mark:] erm
[Alan:] [cough]
[Mark:] as town night clubs go
[Barry:] Yeah but it's a club
[Mark:] I mean it's
[Barry:] and there's no alternative is there? Hi Ken!
[Ken:] I dunno what's. And there's... what have I got? Urgh brurgh
[Hugh:] [cough]
[Ken:] brurgh, hundred and mm mm mm mm mm eighty... hundred and eighty pound, must be... two hundred in
[Hugh:] Ha!
[Ken:] Yeah. Pretty good.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Must be twenty come in... without and paying, and I've let a few in for
[Ken:] Mm. Mm.
[Barry:] bit less than two fifty.
[Ken:] Oh! Jolly good!
[Barry:] So it's not bad.
[Ken:] Mm.
[Barry:] Don't know how the bar's coping though.
[Ken:] [yawning] Oh! They're alright [].
[Barry:] Are they?
[Ken:] I think it bi but they're doing alright.... They'll manage. [LAUGHTER]... That's what they're there for innit?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Ken:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Got no er... no change at the moment that's the only problem.
[Ken:] Yeah, always seem to be going for some er
[Barry:] I just send er
[Ken:] What's it? Alan.
[Barry:] Alan. Alan.... Got some at home apparently tucked away... in a piggy bank or something.
[Ken:] He's robbed it off somebody! [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] How many
[Ken:] [LAUGHTER] Ain't he []?
[Barry:] were on the bus then?
[Ken:] It was absolutely jam-packed full by the sta the standing, I didn't count them.
[Barry:] No, well
[Ken:] Will it be ab be about ninetyish I would think.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Ken:] Ninety, ninety two summat like that.
[Barry:] Yeah, we had like fifty in before, fifty, or sixty.
[Ken:] Before the bus come?
[Barry:] Mm mm.
[Ken:] Came? Yeah, it's picking up again nicely.
[Barry:] Mm. Well it's a bad time of year ain't it since Christmas? I mean January
[Ken:] Yes, yeah that's a point.
[Barry:] anyway, I mean, and then all the sort of... ups and downs with the... press publicity etcetera.
[Ken:] Mm. Course, yeah. Yeah. One or two have mentioned on Thursday actually so I think... best we're open well before. See how that goes when they feel it.
[Barry:] Well I was just talking to Jean about that today, I mean I... we've gotta keep on doing it but, I think that
[Ken:] Yeah, if you stop now you'll get nowhere with them will you?
[Barry:] No that's right. But I mean I think we, I think I, I will need on Monday morning to talk to... er Morecambe Bay... and see if I can bring forward these promotions because
[Ken:] Yeah.
[Barry:] until I start
[Ken:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I mean, we should get them back.
[Ken:] You can't,al also I think you should start doing, having people regular again wi it's just
[Barry:] I know.
[Ken:] not worth it.
[Barry:] The trouble is it's a bit of a catch twenty two because... [sigh]... if you don't put a bus on, will you get the people?
[Ken:] Mm. It's what you do innit? That's the problem with it.
[Barry:] the bus for er
[Ken:] I mean nobody actually
[Barry:] and nobody on it.
[Ken:] nobody's actually said to me a... well where, where's the bus on a Thursday? Nobody's said it yet. When they
[Barry:] Mm mm.
[Ken:] start asking
[Barry:] Mm.
[Ken:] then that transport you could ask about putting it back on again.
[Barry:] I mean what a what I think I'll probably do is if we can get like erm... something that's obviously... our crowd and then... either... putting, say, Stella back on or something like that
[Ken:] Mm.
[Barry:] and banging it out... for one
[Ken:] Can you not stick a band on... pretty soon or nothing like that?
[Barry:] Well
[Ken:] People would think we were
[Barry:] frankly I'm not sure where that stands. I mean talking to Charlie, just asking about... getting some... student bands on
[Ken:] Yeah.
[Barry:] might be an idea cos remember when we had that thin Mar when we had that thin Martin's band on.
[Ken:] Yeah, but I was in
[Barry:] I mean
[Ken:] gonna say, stick them back on cos they
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Ken:] went down really well. And they brought a big following down didn't they?
[Barry:] They brought a big following. Yeah, that's right.
[Ken:] Er, I mean if you, if they, if they
[Barry:] There was about a hundred with thin Martin on the other hand.
[Ken:] Yes. Yes. It was a really good night that. If you make it known that there's stuff like that going on, if you get a band like that you can always just
[Barry:] Mm.
[Ken:] put a bus on for some people that come down.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Ken:] You get a couple of leads like that it'll start picking up
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Ken:] up there.
[Barry:] That's right. So
[Ken:] Like ya, like you say it is a difficult situation at the moment innit?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Ken:] And what to do for the best.
[Barry:] Mm. Yeah. But I, I say if I get... sh publicity I er... if I say do, if I say... cos we haven't got a premium lager on draft so if I stick Stella on draught
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] and then do it as an offer.
[Ken:] You
[Alan:] Eleven... best we can do in
[Barry:] Okay.
[Ken:] and fives.
[Barry:] Great!
[Ken:] So you gotta take it up
[Barry:] Yeah. Great!
[Ken:] there.
[Barry:] Get it up to Terri.
[Ken:] [cough]
[Terri:] I'll get you a bottle full then this.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Is it like cold out?
[Alan:] Drizzly rain though as well.
[Barry:] Is it?
[Ken:] Is it?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Ken:] Mm.
[Barry:] Oh! Well, mind you, that
[Alan:] That's better than frost.
[Barry:] Yeah. Must be war
[Ken:] Oh yes.
[Barry:] must be warmer then mustn't it?
[Alan:] Any good?
[Hugh:] Hello.
[Alan:] Alright?
[Hugh:] Alright?
[Ken:] Aha.
[Hugh:] You alright?
[Alan:] Yep.
[Hugh:] How's?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Oh! And... we tried fourteen brewery!
[Ken:] And op
[Alan:] You don't... you don't
[Ken:] an opp
[Alan:] get it.
[Ken:] an opportunity.
[Alan:] How much is yours? Seven quid each.
[Barry:] Seven, seven
[Ken:] The wha the what
[Barry:] Seven
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] quid each?
[Hugh:] Another drink?
[Alan:] Maybe.
[Ken:] Couple of quid each.
[Barry:] Couple of quid each?
[Alan:] What are you
[Hugh:] Fucking hell!
[Alan:] No he said
[Ken:] Oh er, each?
[Alan:] couple of quid each.
[Ken:] You bringing that back down here then.
[Hugh:] Oh no.
[Barry:] It's two for a quid normally.
[Alan:] Fucking hell! He's trying to kill me this fucker!
[Ken:] I know.
[Hugh:] Ah!
[Barry:] Well I thought
[Hugh:] What's up with him?
[Ken:] Him! We're stood there and all!
[Hugh:] Well you, no you were up there.
[Ken:] Where I stood like
[Barry:] Well,
[Alan:] There you go.
[Ken:] You, you
[Hugh:] Well no it's
[Ken:] serve cups of tea upstairs or what?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Afraid not. Only in
[speaker004:] That's all you need at his age innit?
[Ken:] I says no, it's not bloody soup kitchen!
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] But I had, I had a go... I had a good cup of tea before.
[Barry:] Is that alright?
[Alan:] It's one
[Barry:] I don't know. One, one
[Alan:] One more. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] It don't matter, he's got hundreds of them downstairs!
[Ken:] I know.
[Barry:] There's hundreds of them downstairs!
[Ken:] But I wanna get home yet. I've gotta get home yet.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] Fucking hell!
[Barry:] Come on! You'll only spend it at the bar otherwise.
[Ken:] I wa I want a cup of tea I'm fucking... Right, no, I know it's there, I know it's there's because he's got in
[Alan:] Bloody hell!
[Ken:] Take your
[Barry:] Oh! What!
[Alan:] I thought it was a joke
[Ken:] What time do you reach from out of here then?
[Barry:] Two o'clock.
[Ken:] And what time's the soup... kitchens open?
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] Don't, honestly I'm not fucking joking aren't I? Well I'm not.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] Wah!
[Barry:] [whispering] That's disgusting []!
[Ken:] I went with you lot.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Leave him, leave him up there.
[Ken:] Oh yeah, you'll tell any fucker that!
[Alan:] Oh no! Full, it's full.
[Ken:] ... If there's over... three thousand
[Alan:] No, there's not that many.
[Ken:] Alright then. If there's over two thousand and I'm gonna come back and get my fucking money back!
[Barry:] Right. The trouble is that it... I know, I say I'm going on about haven't got a copper and everything, then they walk up to the bar and... pull out a great wad of notes
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] out of it, out of it, out of the pocket []!
[Alan:] I know.
[Barry:] [sigh]... When do you start... when do you start fishing again then? D'ya think?
[Alan:] In a... couple of weeks I think. It's alright if you're
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] I'm playing again... up till no all normal now. Like that was saying... if you wanted to, about three months cos I mean... kept putting
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] him off, putting him off. But... I'm getting a, I'd, I'd, I'm up to normal now, I've got everything... back on a normal par I think. So
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Mm. I start... before you start, I'm going fishing now.
[Barry:] What, you go out in the... i is it in the summer when you go out the boat? Or the erm... spring or summat?
[Alan:] Well, summer, I don't know... I'd like to go for about it,whe whether it's calm or not, you know if it's nice and calm but
[Barry:] Mhm.
[Alan:] well that's a... a place like Morecambe... I just couldn't be bothered.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] So... I go at any time... late at night.... I say... over Christmas though my car was in its garage... in bits. So... that didn't go down too well with our lot but... it's either that or it blow up... all the time.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Do you go out far? Or do you just... you fe in a in a boat or do you go out far?
[Alan:] Depends, last time... we went out, we went... just off Longbay Island other side of Wallasey.
[Barry:] Yeah I know. Yeah.
[Alan:] So... one guy caught a... twenty eight pounder like. You know... good fishing out there. But otherwise... you stop in harbour... fish.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] You can take your chance.
[Barry:] How long... how long can you stay out? I mean I, you know, how long does th
[Alan:] Usually if
[Barry:] how long's the tide and that?
[Alan:] if you go out on a charter it's twelve hours... you know, if you go for
[Barry:] Yeah, but then you're going out a distance aren't you?
[Alan:] To other side of Wallasey you do twelve
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] hours.
[Barry:] No, I mean if you just keep using the bay
[Alan:] Oh aye.
[Barry:] the bay.
[Alan:] Depends on time... you go out for a time
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] come in with tide. eight hours.
[Barry:] Can you?
[Alan:] Yeah.... But now, this dinghy club that my mate's... and he, he's got tractors at Cromer that take them out of water so
[Barry:] Mm. Mm.
[Alan:] he's a fisher full time.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] What's it like around the power station? Is, is there, is there, are they ploughing warm water into, into there or is it
[Alan:] Well there's warm water coming out int there?
[Barry:] Yeah. Well I presume, I presumed there was. Yeah.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] That's right. I mean is it affecting any of that... good fishing up there or is that
[Alan:] Well the
[Barry:] that a
[Alan:] I can, certainly you can float for and the moor.
[Barry:] Mm. Yeah.
[Alan:] You can float from, but you get a lot of soft wind.
[Barry:] Right.
[Alan:] But, plenty of them around. I never use them as well as my own. That's
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] right.
[Barry:] Is there much mackerel around?
[Alan:] In boat? Er... like when you go out and catch mackerel you use it for fresh bait then.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] So
[Barry:] See, it's not a bad fish to eat actually, mackerel. Mind you, we don't eat fish.
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] And... I went to... last summer we took a... er... I took a sha er not a sha erm... tt... static caravan in, at er... Prestatyn... an and erm
[Alan:] Mhm.
[Barry:] and like, we were just flicking through Ceefax on the telly and it was like... one of these luxury six berth ones and it was ninety nine quid for a week and, and
[Alan:] Really?
[Barry:] I mean it was beautiful inside! They're normally like a two hundred and fifty, three hundred quid one
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] but it was... it was cos you had... you know, you had to go that week kind of thing. So we just thought well... then. Erm... I took the nine year old boat out and just went out in a... boat we had... Mary went as well, we were like... the all job for mackerel... put this guy's
[Alan:] Mhm.
[Barry:] twelve guys on, that's what I didn't want... two small mackerel caught in over
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] three hours, you know. Poor guy was going, well I don't understand it, you know, normally we... Went to erm... Malta last year and there was a great erm... tt... it's called an underwater safari, but, you know, normally when you're, like on Windermere like you've got a glass-bottomed boats
[Alan:] Oh have they?
[Barry:] well this was the all, the ho all the hull underneath the water line was glass... so you were actually sitting... you know, you weren't looking down, you were actually sitting in, in the... base of the hull of the boat
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and, and going, and they went... er it went out in, off... to er some of these islands off er... rocks and that, tour of Malta and that it was superb! You were abs you know you were... er absolute, I mean it was, it was
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] as good as aqualunging without actually getting wet, it was great you know! Very good idea that. Must have made a fortune! It was packed like three or four times a day.
[Alan:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] I mean people are fascinated by the sea aren't they? They really are.
[Alan:] Oh yeah.... My wife's just gone America shark fishing.
[Barry:] Oh yeah! Right. Yeah.
[Alan:] Off Mexico down that way.
[Barry:] Yeah. Marlin... big marlin
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] That's what they call big marlin.
[Alan:] Sixteen quid a day it is to put boat
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] out there.
[Barry:] It's not much really is it?
[Alan:] My friend went last year
[Barry:] They pay that in bloody [LAUGHTER] mackerel fishing
[Alan:] Oh aye.
[Barry:] for the twelve hours don't you []?
[Alan:] Oh yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] He went out... he went... fly-drive last year, and he went down
[Barry:] Have you seen that
[Alan:] to Mexico.
[Barry:] have you seen that movie, it was on erm... tt... I was watching a programme the other day about it. They've developed a camera... for your line... for th for the mackerel, for the ma marlin and the shark fishing... erm... and basically you can actually watch... you can, you can ac you've got a... your T V screen so it, it's er, it's like a spectator sport as well cos you can actually watch... the, the, the fish coming to take your bait.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] You know, so it's like yo you've got on this minute camera on the line and everything, you know so it, so that you can actually get the excitement of watching it... you know, coming and taking
[Ken:] Can we have a little bit of a discount?
[Barry:] Yeah you can. Course you can.
[Ken:] How much is it then?
[Barry:] Couple of quid each.
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] Couple of quid each! Couple of quid each! So we can start
[Barry:] Shark fishing's only
[Alan:] That's all you have, that's only have to have a little bit.
[Barry:] Yeah! Yeah!
[Alan:] You've asked for a lot!
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] [LAUGHTER] Can we have a lot of a discount please []?
[Alan:] Only gotta drink, drink, drink that's lots of drink a drink.
[Ken:] [LAUGHTER] A drink a drink []!
[Barry:] Give us three quid for the pair of you.
[Alan:] Right. You give him three quid and I'll give the rest in.
[Barry:] Cheers.
[Alan:] Yeah. So you buy first two beers then.
[Group Of Unknown Speakers:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Yeah. Fair enough.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ken:] No!
[Alan:] Well isn't it?
[Ken:] Well I did
[Barry:] The guy was talking to Pete, he thought he could, he develop, he could develop for coarse fishing
[Hugh:] Bye bye.
[Barry:] er, you know river fishing and that as well, there's spa special camera.
[Alan:] Well where does the actual camera hang off?
[Barry:] It's hung, it it's hung,i i it's actually not below the boat but, but it
[Hugh:] Oh! Sure can.
[Barry:] get it, you see, but i it's... fantastic watching cos... you know they were... they, they... it was sort of going along the
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] whatever they were using as bait... presumably some mackerel or something like that but, but as I was saying you could see it trailing through... and then all, suddenly out of like nowhere this fish would come and like... chase after it
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and snap and this, this would go off and you'd be sat there going right then, you actually
[Alan:] Well presumably
[Barry:] see it take it, you know
[Alan:] the camera eye would be adjustable would it? Or
[Barry:] I presume so, yes. I mean they was talking about getting a really small for erm
[Alan:] Oh right.
[Barry:] you know, to be, to be used in... in sort of coarse fishing and that.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] But, of course, the other thing of course,i it takes out the, the one that got away cos you actually see the one [LAUGHTER] that got away
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you know []?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] There'd... be some story then. [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] You know what'll happen is... your camera would the cameras' ll magnify it anyway won't it?
[Barry:] Yeah it will. It will do. Yeah. Yeah. But it was really, I mean it, it meant of course that... the other people on the boat could have some enjoyment as well, cos I mean, there's nothing worse i if you... if there's only one rod out, or two rods out th those boats there's only like a couple of rods out int there on, on
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] those... for the marlin and the... and the sharks and that, fishing?
[Alan:] And you don't get many.
[Barry:] Yeah. And it's not like, sort of
[Alan:] Three... there'll be
[Barry:] twelve
[Alan:] three or four maximum
[Barry:] twelve rods out, yeah.
[Alan:] something like that.
[Barry:] Yeah. So any anybody else that's going on board is bored out their brains basically! But at least
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] if you got T V monitors you can watch what's going
[Alan:] Watch it.
[Barry:] on.
[Alan:] That's really good.
[Barry:] So now, now I mean... now with all the radar and... whatever else we're using, I mean... you should really be able to find fish.
[Alan:] Well that, that boat from Evesham that we went out on a couple a years ago it had a fish finder on it.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] So... it er, fish finder on it.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] You throw your line out, you don't get a few just biting.
[Barry:] No. No, that's right. That's right. They've done... most of them are... I mean the wo certainly the ones on the little... little boat trips and that, I mean, they have... all it does is that... it'll tell you there's some fish about, I mean, it doesn't
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] tell you where to fish or
[Alan:] Oh no.
[Barry:] depths or anything like that does it? What they're doing is... there's some fish down there somewhere.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] Cos that's the most frustrating thing about fishing is when you're like... you know, you could be wasting that, you, you think to yourself like I could be wasting a whole, there's not a fish anywhere round here! [LAUGHTER] You know, you could be sat here like an idiot today
[Alan:] Well that's it I've I've sat on
[Barry:] for hours on end [].
[Alan:] Jay hours on end in middle of night freezing
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] you know like... and I've caught nothing. And you've
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] thought well... there's plenty of crabs... in
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] summer, take your bait
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] but every time you throw out... there's a crab on end of it. You know
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] you think, why does that crab always have to come my line.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] And all this sea yet it has to get my worm. And same, like no fish, you think well there must be fish out there.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Well it's, it's luck innit? I don't know.
[Barry:] I don't know what's going on. I don't... we got about three, three thirty in the morning, both of them went out to er... canal somewhere up... Dulgate, past Dulgate... we set up and we'd... we'd been fishing for about two and half hours it's aba... about six thirty in the morning this old farmer comes up says er... aye, aye lads, he said er... I wouldn't bother it, they drained this area of the canal a few [LAUGHTER] months ago! And we said, oh []!
[Alan:] Yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] Sat there watching our floats for hours []! I mean
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I mean luckily you, you know, you'd gone on a car, with a car so it's a matter of throwing everything in the back and just going
[Alan:] That's it.
[Barry:] somewhere else so... could have sat there all bleeding day! And not have known anything about it.
[Alan:] Aye. I've had some lonely nights.
[Barry:] Yeah. Do you catch many eels, eels or anything, many eels?
[Alan:] No. Didn't catch as many this year... as what I have done.... Phworgh! The slimy things that they are.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] You get one of the lads that works with me, if he catches three of them he says well... I'll have them for my dinner.
[Barry:] Yeah. I know. I know.
[Alan:] They look horrible!
[Barry:] A delicacy. Mind you, I ate conga. I, I erm, I was off the west co er... on a holiday to the west coast of Ireland and we erm... we're driving down the west coast and there was like some rocks and everything about, so we stopped and, you know, I looked by a rock pools or something, and there's this... and the rock pool is like mini-swimming baths, they were, you know, probably
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] twelve foot long and about six or seven foot wide and about
[Alan:] Mm mm.
[Barry:] six or seven foot deep and they're crystal clear. And there was this old guy dragging this bloody rope with a massive... hook on the end... like after... after, you know, I presume it was cod or mackerel something along the... and I said, what the hell are you fishing? You know cos... the woman I was with wanted to go for a swim and I said no you can't this guy, so I went up to him, I said what, what on earth are you fishing for? He said, oh there's three congas live in this pool. It was like... a four foot one, a five foot one, there's a six foot one over in the centre, there's a rock in the centre of it
[Alan:] Oh right.
[Barry:] that came out the water... said look over there. I said bloody hell! You know, and I said to her you were [LAUGHTER] gonna go swimming in there []! He said ooh, he said... there was some American students here last week and they were all swimming in there and the... man came along with this thing and they bo they were all sat on the middle lo middle of there with their feet dangling in the water splashing away, he said... I was dragging this down and this six footer came out, [LAUGHTER] I said, and then they were... he said, you've never seen anybody run so fast in your life like they go
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] they were dangling their toes at the end of this thing []. Yeah.
[Alan:] Yeah. Oh aye.
[Barry:] And then, the next day I went along and he actually caught... the five foot one... and ki and killed it and he gave us a load of steaks off it that I sort of
[Alan:] Baked?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] The trouble was they were really bony, that's the only thing it was... and I don't like eating
[Alan:] Well
[Barry:] fish and bo with bones in I can't stand it.
[Alan:] well you can't fillet them can you?
[Barry:] No. No.
[Alan:] Impossible.
[Barry:] Impossible. No. Cos it's like a central spinal
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and it's all off it so... you'd be... just... you know, it's not like
[Alan:] Normal flat
[Barry:] a fish, a flat fish. I mean, but it was really nice it was... it was a really chewy meat you know. But
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] like shark or something and er
[Alan:] There's supposed to be decent congas off Beachy.
[Barry:] Is there?
[Alan:] You know the old
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] oil.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] It's me!
[Alan:] Down there.
[Barry:] Yeah. Oh!
[Alan:] Plenty of rocks under there.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] People say they've had some big ones.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] But, you know about the stories you hear.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] I've never actually seen one.
[Barry:] No. They're ugly looking fish aren't they? Bloody horrible fish! But er... evil looking things.... This guy was great though we met in Ireland cos he was erm... he used to... own about three or four... supermarkets, er small chains and he just one day, he's about... he's about fifty eight, sixty now... and one day he said about five years ago he just got fed up and just walked out. All he does is fish all day long. And he
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] just, he lives in somebody's basement of a house, and like, in return for living there... he fills the guy's freezer up with... lobster, crab, you know
[Alan:] Mm mm.
[Barry:] fish and that... and erm... everything he does in the village i in Kilrush is... everything, he just... you know, he wants a new pair of shoes, wants a coat... brings
[Alan:] Yes.
[Barry:] a couple of lobster, you know, and things like tha... cos like to him he, he's got his crab lines and his lobster pots all the time and all that. Erm... to, it's really back to the old barter system.
[Alan:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] It's superb! Really good.
[Ken:] Eh! Excuse me.
[Hugh:] Oh, oh, oh, oh!
[speaker004:] Have you not seen Ken?
[Barry:] No.
[speaker004:] Oh! go and get Ken then.
[Hugh:] Again?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] You mean same as last week?
[speaker004:] Yeah, yes! Yes, yes, I was helping him.
[Barry:] What?
[speaker004:] See, and I've helped Kenny out and a few... the lads before... and like we always finish it... that's why I come this cellar Barry.
[Barry:] Oh right. Oh!
[Hugh:] [cough]
[Barry:] Do you want one? Yeah
[Hugh:] Just one, just one.
[Barry:] go on, go on. Just tell, send Alan down again.
[Hugh:] [shouting] Alan! Said it's alright [].
[Alan:] Have you ever tried octopus?
[speaker009:] Erm... no.
[Barry:] Er... no I haven't.
[speaker009:] No.
[Barry:] I mean, squid I've eaten a lot of.
[Alan:] Bit like that innit? Squid.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] I've had octopus soup. That was quite... well... a weird taste.
[Barry:] I like shark. Have you eaten shark?
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] Oh I like shark, it's really nice cos it... it's really meaty, I mean, it's like eating meat.
[Alan:] Like steak though innit?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah, it's like steak. That's right.
[Alan:] It's nice and ju tender I believe.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] But
[Barry:] But it's sort of thick and chewy it's not, you know... it's not flaky like... fish, it's like a... almost like a meat. It's really good. They do in erm... where do they do it round here... always? Erm... always got it in erm... tt... oh! Mick... at Joseph's place, Mick and Jose erm... in Lancaster. Oh God! Above... the Bang and Olufsen shop in Lancaster, d'ya know... Robertson's of Leicester?
[Alan:] Up King Street?
[Barry:] Yeah. Next to Plato's.
[Alan:] Yeah. The erm, electrical shop?
[Barry:] Yeah. It's above there.
[Alan:] Oh!
[Barry:] So it's a... it's a nice place cos it's like... it... they do... a great spread of... I mean you can go for like a nice meal there, but you can like also... eat, you know... dips and
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] hamburger
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] or whatever, a big steak or whatever you want and the
[Alan:] And how do you cook it?
[Barry:] They cook it i they cook it in er... Cajun, in, it's a, sort of, in a sort of spice... thing, they have sort of Mexican, not Mexican erm... tt... Cajun, South American, and
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] some states of America... around the Mississippi... New Orleans
[Alan:] Aha.
[Barry:] New Orleans. Er... but I've had it just grilled, you know... and always done in butter.
[Alan:] In butter?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] But I like trying all these things now and again.
[Barry:] Mhm.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] You ca I mean you occasionally see it in the fish markets.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And er... I mean, things like squid and that I ca I quite like, but I'd never think of get buying it, I wouldn't... buy it and cook it myself or anything. I just
[Alan:] Oh no.
[Barry:] the trouble is, once you actually
[Alan:] Tried that
[Barry:] so what sorry? I remember once, you know, getting and cutting... a rabbit and things, by the time you'd actually cut the thi damn thing
[Alan:] You've gone off it.
[Barry:] you'd gone off it cos you'd been... heading, and gutting it, and [LAUGHTER] whatever else []! And you know, you're sat there and you think
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I don't [LAUGHTER] really wanna eat this, you know []! It's alright if it comes to you in a ca in a, in a, as a, as a meal
[Alan:] Comes up ready-made.
[Barry:] Yeah. But er, when you actually see what you're doing to it, you know.
[Alan:] I had this octopus once in Germany... and it, we'd gone out for a meal and... I was gonna have steak and mushrooms and
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] er, the lads said what are we having the starters like? I said, oh... I'll have what you're ordering. Well they ordered soup of the day you see... and they brought this, I tasted it... had a real funny, a weird taste
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] anyway, and I sort of said to the waitress, why what was it? She said octopus. Urgh!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... You wouldn't have had it if you'd have known?
[Alan:] No. I don't think I would.
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] It's not something
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] I would have picked.
[Barry:] No. I wouldn't. I certainly
[Alan:] Well
[Barry:] wouldn't.
[Alan:] it was... it were
[Barry:] I mean I like fish but I wouldn't, I wouldn't choose it.
[Alan:] Had a funny taste but it was quite nice.
[Barry:] Yeah. What was it, a sort of fishy ta I mean was it a sort of fishy soup?
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] No?
[Alan:] It didn't have a fishy taste, it we like beef... but... I presume it's the way they've cooked it.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Cos they all put spices in and everything. But er... I definitely wouldn't have ordered it.
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] No. Like now, I don't think I would order it again.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] But... then I had steak and mushrooms to follow.... Quite nice.
[Barry:] So if you don't eat what you catch... why choose
[Alan:] Why do I wanna
[Barry:] sea fishing? No, I mean I, cos I, you know I,i I... spend a long time coarse fishing so I understand actual fishing... for pleasure as opposed to
[Alan:] Yeah, yeah.
[Barry:] like to eat, you know, there's not much you can catch coarse fishing that you can eat anyway... erm but... most people who go sea fishing do it... to eat what they catch. Or to sell what they catch or whatever, I mean
[Alan:] Aha. Mm. I, I do it... I like, I like
[Barry:] But why sea fi why, why does sea fishing interest you and not coarse fishing sort of thing?
[Alan:] Because you... there's more opportunity for big ones
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] if anything.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Like, you go canal fishing, you know, you're only getting
[Barry:] Yeah, that's right.
[Alan:] like you get the odd four and half pound
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] pike or chub
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] whatever
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] but you know, you, you come to the fairly big'uns out there. So
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] so I suppose that's why I do it.
[Barry:] Mm. Yeah.
[Alan:] To see if I can get a big one.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker009:] Can you get
[Alan:] You going home?
[speaker009:] away now?
[Alan:] No.
[speaker009:] Nothing like trying to get rid of me is there! Are you going home?
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] I'm no bother! Is there more in this week than last week?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] I've never seen as many bodies!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] And I think my God! [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] Their brain must be scrambled as my daughter would say []!
[Alan:] Yeah. That's true.
[speaker009:] Are they, still coming in then now?
[Alan:] No, there hasn't
[Barry:] There hasn't been many now. What
[Alan:] You staying?
[Barry:] time is it now?
[Alan:] Twenty to one nearly.
[Barry:] Oh is it? Oh! There won't be any
[Alan:] See next Friday, we're coming next Friday for.
[speaker009:] Ooh! My little ratbag is. She said I would
[Barry:] No you'll enjoy that.
[speaker009:] I'm gonna try and leave her here!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker009:] Let somebody else do her work. We're trying to get rid of you
[Barry:] Actually
[speaker009:] Anna!
[Barry:] it's good, I mean it's good because of the amount of lighting and effects that they bring, I mean it's interesting like, you know.
[speaker010:] We come for
[Barry:] But yo you come for an hour or so and then,tha that'll be enough
[Alan:] That's enough.
[Barry:] you know, if you don't li if you're not into the music or into dancing then
[speaker009:] Well, she is. We're
[Barry:] No.
[speaker009:] not, we're all fogeys
[Barry:] No.
[speaker009:] you see.
[Barry:] That's right.
[speaker009:] But she wouldn't like tonight because
[Barry:] No.
[speaker009:] she's not into, what I call is it heavy metal? Or summat like
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] that, heavy rock
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] or something?
[Barry:] Heavy rock.
[speaker009:] Well, erm, she's not into that but
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] I said we'd bring her. She'll like it I think, she can dance. Mind you, all these youngsters can't... but you can't see, you know normally when I stand at bar... I can normally see the door but... I can't see it.
[Alan:] I know the feeling.
[speaker009:] Ooh!
[Alan:] Feeling.
[speaker009:] Do you normally have?
[Alan:] Summat like that.
[Barry:] There'll be just over two hundred in.
[speaker009:] Cor! That's a lot then innit?
[Alan:] Did you get that change?
[speaker009:] Well, I give it to what do they call him? Hughey is it?
[Alan:] Hughey.
[speaker009:] Yeah. I gave it him.... I must when I came a bit short again, I said
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Yeah. Well we changed fifteen quid last week didn't we?
[speaker009:] Yeah, but I've been taking out, cos we had a rogue living above us you see, and I thought well... he's one of these that'll take owt if he can get it you see.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker009:] So I thought I don't have a lot of money in flat, not that I have a lot, but... we like it out of way don't we? The whisky bottle, we'll fill it up now won't we? You never know, might get desperate again. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] True.
[speaker009:] Mind you
[Barry:] But
[speaker009:] you were busy last night, is that what it was, did that knock you out?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker009:] Didn't you expect
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] so many?
[Barry:] Er, no, no, we were, I mean last night we'd gone up from... the week before on a rave, we'd had about si ninety in, and last night we had about two hundred and fifty. So
[speaker009:] Is the, is the Fridays normally better than Saturdays... er, money-wise, the takings? I mean, is it more
[Barry:] Well it's i
[speaker009:] people in?
[Barry:] er, er er er, er... it, it hasn't been, I mean,i it, it was, last night was the first one that had gone on to like over two hundred.
[speaker009:] So this week you've done well Friday and Saturday
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] cos you've got more in.
[Barry:] That's right.
[speaker009:] It's not bad though is it?
[Barry:] No. No. But I mean it's, now it's coming to the end of... January people are starting to get paid again and starting to have paid off their Christmas. I mean that's been the killer. You know, you've had Christmas, then you get hit with all your credit cards and all, then you get hit with all the... electricity, and gas, and telephone.
[Alan:] Electricity, gas and telephone and everything.
[speaker009:] Can you explain why it's dearer on Fridays and Saturdays?
[Barry:] Cos it's... different type of... event and music.
[speaker009:] You don't think if you if you put it up to same they wouldn't come likely?
[Barry:] No.
[speaker009:] No. So it's
[Barry:] No. No.
[speaker009:] you don't complain at this, you don't complain at... two fifty er, each one, no?
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] Well... some of them do.
[Barry:] Well some of them do, but not, not serious, not serious
[speaker009:] No I meant you don't, you're not bothered, you don't mind? It's
[Barry:] No, I mean
[speaker009:] you make twice as much on a Friday on the door as you do on the Saturday.
[Alan:] No we don't
[Barry:] No we don't cos we don't, we don't promote it you see on a Friday.
[speaker009:] Oh!
[Barry:] So... they
[Alan:] They
[Barry:] don't promote cos they
[Alan:] they pay for the hire of the hall.
[Barry:] They pay for the hire, yeah.
[speaker009:] But you've gotta say, oh right.
[Alan:] So whatever they make on the door
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] after they've paid
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] for the hire... is profit.
[Barry:] But they spen they spend a lot of money on, on lights and they, I mean they... they spend... they spend about seven hours in here on a Friday just doing the lights and special effects and
[speaker009:] I like that smoke one. I saw it first time last week... and it were great!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker009:] Really
[Barry:] Well the, the first time they were here when they... gonna have the all ni when they were gonna have the all-nighter... erm, they hired a laser in... it was superb! But I mean that's... that'll cost them five hundred quid... alone... just for
[speaker009:] Are the all-nighters popular... with you, in here?
[Barry:] Well we
[speaker009:] [LAUGHTER]... Well you've had
[Barry:] we ha
[speaker009:] a couple haven't you?
[Barry:] No we haven't. The
[speaker009:] None at all?
[Barry:] the... the police and the local authorities stop them. I mean, I have had all-nighters... in the past
[speaker009:] Yeah.
[Barry:] but that was for like the school trips so
[speaker009:] Well why have they stopped it now?
[Barry:] you know
[speaker009:] There's nothing wrong with them. What's to do with them?
[Alan:] Well it was in paper weren't it?
[Barry:] Well
[speaker009:] Yeah, but used to get away with it.
[Barry:] I know.
[Alan:] Yeah, but th th
[Barry:] I know.
[Alan:] they're putting it down in the paper that
[Barry:] Mad, drugs.
[Alan:] people'll take drugs and stuff like that, well, if they're gonna take drugs, then they'll take it anyway.
[speaker009:] Well I've been here every week and there's no bother with them or
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] No, no.
[speaker009:] Anyway
[Alan:] Oh well
[speaker009:] you can't beat the system can you?
[Barry:] You can't. And you can't beat the police cos sooner or later they will fight flipping hell to get you
[speaker009:] Well th they're just funny that's all.
[Alan:] Right. Well...
[speaker009:] Right, what?
[Terri:] That, I ordered that one.
[Hugh:] Mm. That one?
[Terri:] Well, but it's only er er... record book.... You were saying
[Hugh:] How did the bar go?
[Barry:] Don't know. Just trying to
[Hugh:] Have you got any?
[Barry:] [whispering] Don't be sil []... don't be silly!
[Terri:] The ultimate collection of your favourite. You have to make one order.
[Hugh:] You could... can't be far off nine hundred then?
[Terri:] Six?
[Hugh:] I've never seen a Saturday go so fast.
[Terri:] Yeah it... well I, come on! Anything goes fast after Friday.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Terri:] It's not so much that it
[Barry:] Seven fifty.... Two... two pound fifty. Just over.
[Hugh:] Mind you, I thought... oh yeah.
[Barry:] Two hundred people.
[Terri:] I
[Hugh:] So two hundred paid tonight?
[Barry:] No. About hundred and... eighty paid.
[Hugh:] Feels like a hundred and fifty and... get out of it.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Twenty fi I mean last week there was a hundred sixty... in... and that was actually up on the previous couple of weeks, just
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] in er
[Terri:] Oh yeah. Wasn't it?
[Barry:] Yeah. Well I mean, January
[Terri:] It is... getting quite
[Barry:] people are getting paid again.
[Terri:] getting paid again.
[Barry:] People have got some money again.
[Hugh:] I dunno, I, I, I think the Friday nights, mostly on the Friday nights.
[Barry:] Yeah, might well do. Might well do.
[Terri:] Please can I have my twenty five I'm owed for... like... two weeks?
[Barry:] Oh right.
[Terri:] Two weeks.
[Hugh:] Well I don't, mine's gotta go in the cleaners
[Terri:] Yeah, well
[Barry:] Oh I need some
[Hugh:] I have to clean them up, I'll have to
[Barry:] Yeah I know.
[Hugh:] take it to the cleaners
[Barry:] I know, I might get some
[Hugh:] so it's not the fucking cleaner.
[Barry:] I'm gonna get some cleaning, I'll get some cleaning fluid this week.
[Hugh:] You know which one it, it is, it sort of activated one.
[Barry:] Erm
[Terri:] You're gonna kill somebody one day you know using that!
[Hugh:] Bloody. I give them a, I did give them a good rinse afterwards though.
[Barry:] It's gonna have to
[Hugh:] It was
[Barry:] it's gonna have to be erm... erm... dub dub wurgh wurgh erm... tt... I can get a delivery on Thursday, I need, we need a delivery on Thursday anyway
[Terri:] It, yes.
[Barry:] when we're open... so I'll get a delivery on Thursday and I'll get some er
[Hugh:] Well I'll do the delivery if you want
[Barry:] cleaner
[Hugh:] I'll do the delivery when I've
[Barry:] bit of cleaner. Okay.
[Hugh:] Yeah, so that's an, an idea for
[Terri:] Glasses.
[Hugh:] Yeah, we run out of pints again tonight. Well we didn't run out, we run out of but there was quite a few outside in the
[Barry:] I should hope so!
[Terri:] I know, but I'm loathed to give them out.
[Hugh:] No.
[Terri:] Unless I know who's getting them.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] Seventy five... where are on now? Ten
[Terri:] And black Ashley came in.
[Hugh:] Yeah.... I thought Laura was coming behind the bar to fucking us support.
[Terri:] I know what Laura was
[Barry:] What?
[Terri:] drinking.
[Hugh:] She walked behind the bar, got herself a drink and went and fucking sat and watched us!...
[Terri:] Mm!
[Barry:] Oh!
[Terri:] Oh! The little pratt
[Barry:] Obnoxious
[Terri:] dickhead!
[Hugh:] Yeah....... yeah but he said...
[Barry:] Oh yeah, he was... legless all night weren't he? I got him every time, until the end and I said I am not serving him this time!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Hughey, you serve him!
[Hugh:] Well that's right.
[Barry:] Cos he was absolutely incapable of talking
[Terri:] Yes.
[Barry:] let alone giving any money.
[Terri:] And I said it's alright we're still in
[Hugh:] Have you ever seen him
[Terri:] judge from their looks you know what they're drinking and you just like go... vaguely waving his empty glass
[Barry:] Well you should take his glass and
[Terri:] you fill it and take the money out their hand don't you?
[Hugh:] Yeah. D'ya think so?
[Barry:] Yep.... Yeah the,ye oh yeah, honestly yeah. I wo I would have done tonight those but
[Hugh:] Oh yeah...
[Barry:] talking to Alan.
[Terri:] Interrupted by customers.
[Barry:] Mm.... No I was er... talking to, is it Alan? Security guard.
[Terri:] Aren't you the lucky one!
[Barry:] Well he's better than Stuart!
[Terri:] Just!
[Hugh:] I'm saying nothing!
[Barry:] Well, yeah, but I mean the stories they tell about fishing so they're different stories
[Terri:] Oh yeah.
[Barry:] and we caught a
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] whereas er
[Hugh:] He doesn't lie to his wife any more.
[Barry:] I have been, I have been in my time! Coarse fishing though, he was sea fishing, sea fishing. [sigh]... When are you gonna give up smoking and... save some
[Hugh:] I know.
[Barry:] money?... You could pay your mortgage on what you smoked!
[Hugh:] I don't give a fuck!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] It's a foolish fucking!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] I can't with my habits any more. Gambling and drinking. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Did you... win any money today?
[Hugh:] Only a bit.
[Barry:] Have you got my keys?
[Hugh:] Just a wee bit.
[Terri:] No! I put them
[Barry:] Ah.
[Terri:] on the table.
[Barry:] Sorry! I've got my keys.
[Hugh:] Can we not finish our drinks Barry?
[Terri:] You did it like I did it didn't you?
[Barry:] Course you can finish your drinks!
[Terri:] Get your coat and we'll rattle it, ah, your keys are there.
[Hugh:] Maybe I've got a collection of these half pints at home!
[Barry:] I know that.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Well, bring them back!
[Terri:] That's where all these long thin ones have gone.
[Hugh:] No, no, I use it's usually fucked.
[Barry:] Why don't you just... take a case of it, one of those... cases home, one of the empty... empty cases?
[Hugh:] And bring back the glasses.
[Barry:] And bring all the glasses back.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]... I'll tell you what they're.
[Barry:] What are?
[Hugh:] They do take the bottoms off them. They don't give a fuck
[Terri:] Oh I know!
[Hugh:] They do take the bottoms of them Barry.
[Barry:] Oh!
[Terri:] Well I told you
[Hugh:] Well you see, you actually see tho them little punks collecting them up at the end of the night don't you? Putting them under their coats like.
[Terri:] How, how many... what... did you carry out yourself?
[Barry:] Tonight?
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Five bottoms. Well that's
[Terri:] Well that
[Barry:] half a case.
[Hugh:] And I sold four of those as well like. Yeah.
[Terri:] They carry out. And I sold... three... three double gin... three, you know.
[Hugh:] Yeah but yo you always sell a few to take out don't
[Terri:] Well that's why they brought it.
[Hugh:] Most probably take out and sell them what's
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] left at the end of the night.
[Barry:] I mean, not all our customers abs... are absolutely stupid. Buy a bottle at five to two and leave it at... two o'clock.
[Hugh:] It's the nice ones that leave their drink there.
[Barry:] Mm! I'm amazed they haven't
[Hugh:] Well anyway I was talking to er Rosette tonight cos I went to the office for some change and I, then I had this like. She said, I hear the Empire, or, or hear The Garden's doing well on a Friday night. Must have heard about that from Alan. He goes... it's too fucking dead! Well it's... it, last day of week
[Barry:] Where?
[Hugh:] Popping up to Christies and just after you go up the top.
[Barry:] No, no, no, where? Where are you talking about? The Empire?
[Hugh:] ... But apparently they're doing quite well on a Wednesday... with the students.
[Barry:] Students, yeah I know. And erm... Mark was in last week he said
[Hugh:] They're getting six hundred like.
[Barry:] well, Mark said it was, Mark er guessed about four hundred. He's, he, he went in last week, he went in this week... and er
[Hugh:] Well Paul, Paul said to me six hundred, about seven hundred
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] normally he said, he said well there would be about six hundred.
[Barry:] Ni Nigel mentioned, he told me it was erm... er like four, five hundred in... tt... to
[Hugh:] Not bad though is it?
[Barry:] Well it's very good innit? I mean, on a Wednesday. And it's only a quid to get in and it's a pound, pound a pint.
[Hugh:] Two quid and, and a drink, yeah.
[Barry:] But on the other hand they're making a little bit at a pound a pint.
[Hugh:] Well they're making five or six hundred, they're bound
[Barry:] [clears throat]
[Hugh:] to be getting on with it.
[Barry:] That's right. That's getting in the
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] I don't think they've got a lot of staff on.... I wouldn't have thought they'd bother with a
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] student night, having a lot of staff on, it's pointless having... ah, I mean, the bouncers... in that situation.
[Hugh:] Well you'd only need one.... But we don't need a bouncer on
[Barry:] Except, mind you, the, the rough, the erm rugby club gave the band a bit of er, a rough... seeing to.
[Hugh:] What band?
[Barry:] He had some band that were... awful apparently and the
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] whole of the rugby team were lying in front of stage with their
[Hugh:] They, they've never left, they were playing the rugby club?
[Barry:] fingers up. [LAUGHTER] No, no, no, no, no.
[Terri:] No! University
[Barry:] University rugby club.
[Hugh:] Oh! The Uni's?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Mhm.
[Barry:] Yeah. The band went... ran off in tears apparently.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Couldn't cope.
[Terri:] Seeing the University Rugby Club I would, I would have eh!
[Barry:] Mm.
[Hugh:] Must be some narky bastards in the rugby club!
[Terri:] Oh! I can't get it out it's stuck on his collar I hope she comes back for it next week.
[Hugh:] But six hundred on a Wednesday night that's pretty good.
[Terri:] Mm.
[Hugh:] Does the Sugar House get that many people in?
[Barry:] No. No. The Sugar House only opens er... Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Or, or,o we always have done. I mean, we... we opened originally, first year, every night of the bloody week and it was pointless, absolutely pointless.
[Hugh:] Is that bigger than the Empire? I've never been in it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] No!
[Barry:] Er... yeah. Yes it is.
[Terri:] Is it?
[Barry:] It's legal, it's legal
[Hugh:] Well it's on, it's on a Thursday, yeah.
[Barry:] it's... it's legally bigger than the Empire but the Empire can get more people in cos he's got upstairs and
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] that
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] see. But, of course, erm for licensing they don't take that... particularly into consideration up there.
[Hugh:] Well they half upstairs straight away.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Hugh:] So er
[Barry:] I mean, I think, I, I think the Empire legally is... well I thought it was nine hundred
[Hugh:] Seven fifty I think.
[Barry:] [whispering] I can't think er []... I don't know. I think it's nine hundred. I mean you could cer you could
[Hugh:] Well I thought it was seven fifty.
[Barry:] certainly get seventeen, eighteen hundred in there.
[Hugh:] Well yeah. Even that Bob Monkhouse opened up... quite
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] quite nice.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Well, they'll have the Garden won't they?
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Mind you
[Hugh:] Probably, fucking tell by, cos there was... I thought
[Barry:] They we
[Hugh:] there was too many.
[Barry:] Yeah. But I mean they were banging... they were banging fifteen hundred in for that disco for the first
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] few months weren't they?
[Hugh:] No, twelve, twelve or thirteen. They never had fifteen.
[Barry:] Didn't they?... I mean the Sugar House, his capacity's just been... upped to eleven hundred I think. Erm... I mean, it was always nine hundred, but it's been upped to eleven hundred last year I think. Well we used to put, I mean, I put twelve, thirteen hundred in the Sugar House. But tha but you... it's full at that, you know.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] Whereas the, the, the, you, you could... you could, you could fit sixteen, seventeen hundred.
[Hugh:] No, I reckon,th th there was,th th they reckon between a, a thousand and e eleven hundred for a... night, you know. But you couldn't fucking move at that.
[Barry:] Yeah, but it was a, it was also a ver it was a bit of a celebrity, I mean it was... people, people were crushed around, bloody hell I mean
[Hugh:] Yeah, that's right., yeah.
[Barry:] all the downstairs, I mean all the plebs were upstairs... all the downstairs was erm
[Hugh:] Yeah but,ma maybe, maybe a hundred people.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Hugh:] I'm sure.
[Barry:] I mean, I don't know I, you see I left... I had to come here so I left before Bob Monkhouse and everything, I just, I, all I did was go for... couple of free drinks and plate of free food, which, I don't think I got. And left.
[Hugh:] You get a few fucking with the chef.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] You know... deep sea diving at... [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yes you would. You, you betrayed us then, you'd left hadn't you? You'd left me!
[Hugh:] I had to leave.
[Barry:] You'd fled us! And gone to work for the opposition.
[Hugh:] Were you op well I didn't reckon you were opposition.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] But I did go out or something.
[Barry:] Just cos you thought you were go
[Hugh:] It's funny though
[Barry:] just cos you, you were coming out with about two hundred and fifty quid a week for working seven nights a week!
[Hugh:] No, I, originally, they they were open seven nights a week.
[Barry:] I know.
[Hugh:] No. Was it four times a week?
[Barry:] And you were secured... weren't you secured there?
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] Oh!
[Hugh:] Seven nights a week, two hundred and fifty in my pocket guaranteed. Going to bed with Jean... fucking, fucking shite! [LAUGHTER] Kelly's []!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] Christ! Some of the schemes they come up with.... Get your blood going.
[Barry:] I mean, I'll, I'll, I'll be interesting to see how they... they start next week with a... a load of er... bands on Thursday nights.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean, they're all chartsey stuff but
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] you know, I, I da... that kind of stuff doesn't draw punters... generally, chart stuff cos... the people who go
[Hugh:] I dunno, I think the young
[Barry:] the people who are interested
[Hugh:] I think the young people go to it like.
[Barry:] Well me yeah, maybe. Maybe some of that will. Yeah. But generally pop, poppy type
[Hugh:] A lot, a lot of
[Barry:] Top of the Pops stuff doesn't, in the sense that... people who like to go and see live music don't... people who like that kind of music prefer the dis... prefer it in a
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] disco context.
[Hugh:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] Not, not, seeing sort of a live concert.... Anyway
[Terri:] In fact, in fact most of the stuff they don't like anyway.
[Barry:] Mm. True. Well they're not lo all those appearances are P A, it's all gonna be mimed and... backing tapes. Erm... that blooming Labour Party cancelling that conference on March twenty second... and which has
[Terri:] Oh yeah.
[Barry:] messed me up! Cos I was... Mary wanted to go and see Si Simply Red at G MEX, and... last weekend we co or weekend before last when they were on, their big, er we couldn't because... I had the kids... Friday... night and the two of them Saturday night and it, that was the two nights.
[Hugh:] Were you gonna go with her?
[Barry:] Yeah. So, so... so I said well we'll go to the N E C or Sheffi she said oh I'm not traipsing all that way, you know, just for the concert. So... and she was, she was moaning away like sort of oh we alright! I'll take you over to Paris and we'll watch them in Paris on the twenty... so she said, oh when? So I said, twentieth of March. She said oh! Tt. Oh!
[Terri:] Ah!
[Barry:] The Labour Party Conference is on so I can't go. So I said
[Terri:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] oh dear me!
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... And then she came in, oh, Labour Party Conference is cancelled!
[Hugh:] Oh bugger!
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] You see Jean on the telly with Neil Kinnock?
[Hugh:] No.
[Terri:] No, I've been told about it.
[Hugh:] When?
[Barry:] Ee, er, Friday. It's on all the national news. It wasn't, it wasn't on the regional news it was peculiar!
[Hugh:] Well we did
[Barry:] It was on the six o'clock nat well it was on all day, one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock
[Hugh:] Yeah the
[Barry:] four o'clock, six o'clock
[Hugh:] normal news.
[Barry:] nine o'clock... yeah. It wasn't on the regional news.
[Hugh:] Where were they?
[Barry:] Salford Keys. He was up seeing all the north west candidates... parliamentary candidates. Jean was in that horrible... sa mustard and black striped
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] contraption!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Stuck out like a sore
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] So that everybody noticed!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Her dressing up outfit.
[Hugh:] Hear Labour are one point five... I heard it yesterday
[Barry:] Yeah. All the sh
[Terri:] I thought she was going to be meeting him next weekend then?
[Barry:] All the dirty tricks start now though.
[Terri:] At the regional conference at Blackpool. Erm
[Barry:] I don't, I don't, I don't whether he's going to that.
[Terri:] Forgotten what it's called.
[Barry:] Yeah, it's si I know it's north
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] west, er no,la regional councils re Labour... council, the... urban councils or something like that.
[Terri:] Something like that, yeah.
[Barry:] No,na well I don't know, he might be. I don't know whether he's going to that, he might be but... this was, this, he was up sort of seeing, meeting all the Labour Party candidates for the north west.
[Hugh:] Well if I had a million invested, have it all invested.
[Barry:] Yep!
[Terri:] Yep!
[Barry:] I agree.
[Hugh:] Seriously, I'd fucking have it out of there, everything I own.
[Barry:] But he ta all the dirty tricks are starting now.
[Hugh:] Kinnock's a funny... he really is.
[Barry:] He's er... the Sunday Times tomorrow
[Hugh:] Er, I remember you said about
[Barry:] full... Sunday Times tomorrow, Major expose on the lader le the lea the Labour leaderships... ties with... a Moscow... Moscow company.
[Hugh:] Did you see it? Yeah.
[Terri:] Oh you mean, they're still getting Moscow's
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] It's like, what's it they've got?
[Terri:] I think it's about time I got my share of the
[Hugh:] Well who's doing it, tomorrow, what they call it? Report he's doing tomorrow?
[Terri:] Oh
[Barry:] Er... Sunday Times.
[Hugh:] Personal view of the files on.
[Barry:] Typically. [yawn]
[Hugh:] Dennis Healey, fuck! He's gonna out with some stick!
[Barry:] Kinnock was saying to erm... the candidates, you know, we re I realize that a lot of you are getting it rough at the moment, cos there's about five Labour
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] candidates all been arrested in the north
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] west... mysteriously.
[Hugh:] But er... Jean not a.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Derek, there's somebody Derek
[Hugh:] Derby
[Barry:] Derby, that's right. Blackpool's under investigation. Anyway, so erm... he said, but you know... he was saying to them that er, it's not just at the bottom end, he said, in our village in Wales we've got... the Sun have now positioned two reporters who have lived in the village... the these... the they sit in a car outside his house day and night
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] photographing who comes in. They've been to his little boy's primary school, interviewed the teachers and headmistress and... all the school friends and everything just trying to get a dirty story. How did you er... how did you know about the football?
[Sergio:] What football?
[Barry:] The Morecambe... match.
[Sergio:] What d'ya mean?
[Barry:] How did you know about it?
[Sergio:] Cos I saw it when we went past.
[Barry:] When is it on, tomorrow?
[Sergio:] Yeah. I think so.
[Barry:] Oh. Did you see the time by any chance?
[Sergio:] Either seven thirty or eight.
[Barry:] Be seven thirty I would imagine. Plenty of time.
[Sergio:] Or seven o'clock maybe.... It's unusual, some time... if, from seven to eight.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Sergio:] That's in the F A trophy.
[Barry:] Yep! D'ya wanna go to it then?
[Sergio:] Well okay. Is it the Vauxhall trophy or the F A trophy?
[Barry:] F A trophy.
[Sergio:] Mm. That's... the ta two cups they can win now.... Isn't it Barry?
[Barry:] Who, Morecambe?
[Sergio:] Yeah. League... and
[Barry:] Oh. Still in the league, they're still in their league cup are they?
[Sergio:] No, I don't, no, the league, actual league. H F S league.
[Barry:] Well that's not a cup.
[Sergio:] Yeah, but you get a cup when you win it.
[Barry:] No you don't.
[Sergio:] Do you not?
[Barry:] No.
[Sergio:] Oh! I don't know.
[Barry:] You don't get a cup if you win the league in... first division do you?
[Sergio:] Yes!
[Barry:] No you don't.
[Sergio:] You do!
[Barry:] You don't!
[Sergio:] Barry, you do!
[Barry:] You don't, you get a shield.
[Sergio:] Shield?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Sergio:] Oh! There's only one shield, and that's the charity shield.
[Barry:] You can't call it the league cup can you? Cos there's already a league cup int there? Completely different.
[Sergio:] Barry... can you... what are the H F S league cup did you call it? What does H F S stand for anyhow?
[Barry:] Er... I don't know. I presume it's some sponsor or other. Don't know who it is. It's not very good publicity is it? If nobody knows who it is.
[Sergio:] Well do you know what it is?
[Barry:] No. I just said I don't know. Said it's not very good publicity if nobody knows what it is is it?
[Sergio:] That's at Wembley.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Sergio:] Gary Wilkinson's pretty good isn't he?
[Barry:] Yeah. Well he did he did well in the... last er
[Sergio:] Yeah, got to the semi-finals.
[Barry:] British Open, or whatever it was.
[Sergio:] Well tha the last one he's got to the semi-finals and he got beat by Steve Davis. Pardon?
[Barry:] It's a test match in... two minutes.
[Sergio:] What of?...?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Sergio:] Well I'll go across quickly now then.
[Barry:] Okay.
[Sergio:] I'll see you in a minute.
[Barry:] Okay.
[Sergio:] Oh! Well in a minute anyhow.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] You've been a long time!
[Sergio:] I know.
[Barry:] Why?
[Sergio:] I don't know. It...
[Barry:] Oh. They're showing all them, mm, all the er wickets and all the runs from the first day onwards.
[Sergio:] That was on the first day.
[Barry:] No, this is the third day.
[Sergio:] Oh!
[Barry:] And me we've missed the first two innings.
[Sergio:] Pardon?
[Barry:] We've missed the first two innings.... Are you playing on Saturday?
[Sergio:] Dunno.... Ah! No I'm not,. They've taken that.
[Barry:] See Van Basten got another... hat trick.
[Sergio:] Well on... A C Milan
[Barry:] Did you see it this morning? Did you see all the goals this morning?
[Sergio:] Well what on?
[Barry:] Channel Four. They o show all the... Italian goals on Channel Four.
[Sergio:] What on? What time?
[Barry:] Channel Four News. Half past eight. Mm.
[Sergio:] I'm.
[Barry:] Mm. Show all the goals from Europe, and... Spain, and Germany, and Italy.
[Sergio:] Every day?
[Barry:] No. Just, well I dunno, cos they're not on every day are they?... They don't play every day of the week do they? A bit too tired don't you think?
[Sergio:] Most teams do... in... F A. It was er, first division.
[Barry:] Who?
[Sergio:] Well, second division teams.
[Barry:] No they don't.
[Sergio:] They've planted a new tree there haven't they?
[Barry:] Where?
[Sergio:] There.
[Barry:] Where?
[Sergio:] The one right in front, at the very
[Barry:] Well that's been there ever since we moved in!
[Sergio:] No, not that bush. I mean that
[Barry:] No, the tree. Yeah.
[Sergio:] Has it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Sergio:] Well I can't remember that... now.... Unless it was small and [LAUGHTER] it's grown []!
[Barry:] So when... you don't know when you go back in then? The time the trains are?
[Sergio:] Nope!... Could do that
[Barry:] They're getting some more tomorrow aren't they?
[Sergio:] I don't know yet. Cos in... you don't know if it'll be moved by then. Cos she said they're moving it aren't they? From his bedroom.
[Barry:] Yes. That'll take about ten minutes.
[Sergio:] Oh it would. If more comes... in. [phone rings]... Do you want me to get that?
[Barry:] No, I'll get it.
[speaker004:] What, what he's, what he's had to say is, is, is to, is to get the ball rolling and get some money, and then we can start looking. He'll give us that
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] without any security.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] Can have that for starters. At a write off of thirty pound a barrel.
[Barry:] Oh! He's going to write off one as well?
[speaker004:] This is what he's saying, yeah. S so you don't get involved or anything, this is, we can just sign it off. All he wants off us, we're gonna give him analyses of your last three months' invoices.
[Barry:] Right.
[speaker004:] Right? And then wants just some form of a business plan, which
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] is probably similar to what your
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker004:] What you did that, on that other thing. And then, and he'll come and see us, sort it all out, sort the installation out and erm... and, and we've got fifteen left. Then we then he says, then wha well cos what we're saying is, then if your barrelage goes up to four barrels, say
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] go back and get another ten to fifteen
[Barry:] Another write off. Mm.
[speaker004:] er another write off. He says, so you you you you you're not, you're not... stinging yourself up to something... er
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] and you take as you improve the business. It's whether, you know, what we've got to look at really is what, what, basis we can use that fifteen thou for.
[Barry:] Mm. That's right.
[speaker004:] As a starter.
[Barry:] That's right.
[speaker004:] You know.
[Barry:] The biggest thing is a case of refurbishment to, is that, that's what we want.
[speaker004:] That cocktail bar looks alright in the corner over there.
[Barry:] Mm. Then you could sort of do something with the Yeah. Yeah. Bas let's wander round and have a look. I mean Mm.
[speaker004:] Er do you want, there's another the idea of what that?
[Barry:] What do you think on that Barry, on that score? Yeah. If we can get fifteen quickly. Yeah. Cos we've missed the March he said, because th it's the new financial year so Aha. Aha. you know, so if we can ge if we can get fifteen in quickly we can start saying well look, while Mm. we're gonna spend that fifteen Yeah. for That's right. And then get it going. Anyway, I said... we'll have to. Yeah. I mean, basically, blokes have written everything off. Yeah. So, so... I mean, they've just walked Yeah. away from the whole thing, so
[speaker004:] So
[Barry:] with all the pumps, heads,
[speaker004:] All yo all
[Barry:] cellar, everything!
[speaker004:] all we're gonna have to do is, put that in, well... we might
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] we might, we might, what money we're saving we might be able to say well what about something
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] you know.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. We will turn round, but I say We, we own this, you know, d'ya wanna buy it, can, d'ya wanna buy the equipment? Mm.
[speaker004:] They might say well, put new in, you know, but... gonna save them an arm and a leg and maybe we can... ah, either negotiate something definite or
[Barry:] Well it's not, it's, I mean it's not only the cost of the equipment, it's actually the cost of pu installing it. You know, you need That's right, yeah. to have a company in to install it.
[speaker004:] won't need to push
[Barry:] Gonna be, it's gonna be... I mean, it's a long run, it's, it's Yeah. gonna be a good two days Yeah. wanted to do that.
[speaker004:] Well they, they'll put a condition on as well.
[Barry:] Have a word with Colin. Yeah. Right. Here we are.
[speaker004:] Here we are backstage. Erm... that's just cupboard, staff toilets, and spirit stuff... in there.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] ... area
[Barry:] Sa what's that for?
[speaker004:] Ice making machine.
[Barry:] Oh yeah! That's what we want a
[speaker004:] Dishwasher.
[Barry:] glass washer.
[speaker004:] Erm... there's one freezer, that's a freezer. Er... it's small but... well it's a reasonable kitchen
[Barry:] Yeah, it's quite a good one
[speaker004:] int it?
[Barry:] really.
[speaker004:] Fridge.
[Barry:] They do say that er, that the er... it's cos you have to anything on there, food-wise.
[speaker004:] Yeah, you've got to have food anyway. So I mean, if they've had it. But
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] I mean it's, it's... er, it needs somebody working at it... full time
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] erm... and just being, being prepared to su suffer a few months of building
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] it up basically.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] That's, that's the, that's where you've got... er... freezer... freezer... and a chest freezer there as well. That's a lift straight down to the cellar.
[Barry:] Who put that in?
[speaker004:] Charlie. Tha I mean the whole building's brand new, he, well
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I mean it's, what? Er... eight years
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] old or whatever.... Er, we've got all packed in for... I mean that might be worth... putting back on.
[Barry:] No. Doubt
[speaker004:] When it
[Barry:] if it's
[speaker004:] when it got to the stage that we only open like, one and a half days a week
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] we said, well it's not really worth, from your company's point of view, such an expensive piece of... equipment for a... I mean, was doing the process thing then, you know, we could utilize the equipment elsewhere. But, er, if you're not really gonna be... [break in recording] still like split cups but... well
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] it's, it's useful for the gas sort of thing
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Whatever, whatever I mean... we'll
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] be expecting that.
[speaker004:] Yeah. Well yo do your
[Barry:] So
[speaker004:] do, do you know?
[Barry:] Oh yeah! Yeah, I know that. Well when everything's sorted, that's it.
[speaker004:] So you got, there's a lot of wasted space in this club.
[Barry:] Mm!
[speaker004:] Phenomenal amount of wasted space.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I used to think what.
[Barry:] Where does this lead to?
[speaker004:] This is the back of the, the disco.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Right, there was a disco console... on the back.
[Barry:] Mm. Right.
[speaker004:] Aye. And I got, I've got about... two hundred of these... poly-foam chairs as well back
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] there, which... I got off one of my
[Barry:] Here's the piano.
[speaker004:] That's the piano.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... And these are.
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah [].... I mean we have... on a couple of occasions always done like fortieths and that, on a... couple of them. We actually set up... buffet in there
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] which worked... reasonably well.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] I think one did it, you know what I mean
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] tart it up and whatever.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] Erm, and what else worked well... erm... for a while, we were doing the women's darts. And we had... about three boards in here and we had a board in there. I mean, there must be about seven boards in all.
[Barry:] Right. Was that a competition was it?
[speaker004:] No, it was a weekly... thing. Because, what they were doing, they were going to individual pubs
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] Which couldn't cope
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] with it, and th wha on their knock-outs and their cups and everything they
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] wanted them all in one place. So
[Barry:] Aha
[speaker004:] but erm... there was a bit of jealousy in the la licensees started getting a bit er... er
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] because we're taking the trade away from them, you know... they would have obviously had
[Barry:] They were all the other pubs and the darts?
[speaker004:] Yeah. They'd have had a lot.
[Barry:] A bit of competition from other place.
[speaker004:] Well, at that stage we were talking to... the men's darts secretary came along and was saying, he'd be quite interested in, in... knocking up, you know, one of the Lancashire matches or something
[Barry:] Oh!
[speaker004:] like that. It's a
[Barry:] Well it's the stage for it int it?
[speaker004:] Th thing is, you can put it on there, put it on sta you can er film it, and bang it on the big screen over there.
[Barry:] Mhm.
[speaker004:] which is what I, I, in the I had Eric Bristow and Maureen one night, and, I mean, it was just little dart board in the corner, but what I did was, I had a big screen like that... and I just got... student television service just to film it live and just throw it straight back up onto the big
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] onto the thing, so... you know, it was like... well it's better than being at the telly. I mean, it's better
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] than
[Barry:] Watching that.
[speaker004:] because th on the telly they haven't got those. I mean, I'm
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] amazed at the, on the world championships, they've only got those... lighting up boards
[Barry:] That's right.
[speaker004:] haven't they?
[Barry:] That's right, yeah.
[speaker004:] You know, and, I, instead of having... I mean
[Barry:] Screen up.
[speaker004:] why they don't just put a screen up
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] that beats me, you know. They do other sport etcetera. See what I mean?
[Barry:] Mm. Yeah.
[speaker004:] Well that's part of the course because, we need to sort, with Johnny's entertainment out with a roof.
[Barry:] Yeah. Alright.
[speaker004:] They've got two or three little leaks. What it is is, the ventilation... on the roof, ventilation shafts... when the wind's driven... it drives under and leaks through. And we get it in two or three places, the toilets are, are the key one.
[Barry:] And you don't see with that.
[speaker004:] Roof tiles are a fu... bloody cost a fortune!... Yeah, so... damn! I didn't bring the... I'll, I'll go and... I'll go and get the key for that. No, I'll let you see it, may as well while you're here. You can see floor
[Barry:] What's the floor, underneath the floor?
[speaker004:] Concrete. I think, what, what... you mean
[Barry:] What is
[speaker004:] the actual car it's just carpet. You see it was out in the, probably is still out in the hall that one. Yeah.
[Barry:] I mean, closed now, it Mm. was open when Colin was there that time of the day.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] You know, you'd have ten, they say Yeah. ten, if there was only ten people in, they'd all be drinking six or seven
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] pints.
[speaker004:] You haven't got a cold shelf in here. But I mean, that wouldn't be
[Barry:] No.
[speaker004:] that's not that difficult to put in here.
[Barry:] We'll get them
[speaker004:] Yeah. Exactly.
[Barry:] I think we'll be able to get them to put them in for us. No.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Oh we've gotta pay that one haven't we? To pay that one? I think so, yeah. We've got two coming... for ourselves, but
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah. we'll be able to get them off Gary I think, yeah. And we'll be able to say look, we want, we want... how man how many have you got behind there? Have you got cold shelves behind there?
[speaker004:] We've got, one, two, three, four behind there.
[Barry:] Right. So we could get a couple for here
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] couldn't we?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And you're painting over that. I've gotta come and paint
[speaker004:] I mean, really, if, if you look fifteen thousand, if you could spend fifteen thousand doing all this up
[Barry:] Ah yeah.
[speaker004:] and you could write off barrels, you could still improve your barrel er, your barrels a week int it?
[Barry:] Oh yeah! Yeah.
[speaker004:] You need, er you need to
[Barry:] Definitely. Yeah. Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] And you don't need... say, you don't need, you only need like... one private function a week.
[Barry:] And promotions, you know, Malibu promotion night where the
[speaker004:] Do promotions, that's right. Yeah. And yo and your er... see what I mean about this area up here, I mean it's not a bad... thingy.
[Barry:] No. No I mean, I don't think
[speaker004:] Just time to sit and have a drink and all that.
[Barry:] Well
[speaker004:] I mean, if you wanted you can use the big screen. You see cos, we put it that position cos er, the only dead part of the club is just... literally
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] in the corner. O the other way you can see the screen from everywhere. Erm
[Barry:] I mean, how much do you reckon it'll cost? If we said ou the carpet, we said well a certain area of the carpet wants [sigh]
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Erm
[speaker004:] I mean, it's quite a big floor area... when you look at it.
[Barry:] How much did you say Yeah, probably. in all your nightclubs and, what did you say they do a? We'll... nothing, we'll, won't be able to paint the floor and put the carpets down on
[speaker004:] I mean I
[Barry:] that floor.
[speaker004:] I would have thought... to be honest, I would have thought you don't need any of that area
[Barry:] No.
[speaker004:] carpeted.
[Barry:] Just to, probably, very ends of Don't you, you want your raised area, this
[speaker004:] You want your two raised areas carpeted.
[Barry:] Er, by, by the bar would you say it... no not right in front you know, have that
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] running to about three foot back.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah that Well but you don't really want it up to the bar if you're going to get No I'm saying that you go right up to the bar
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you want it up to
[speaker004:] See if you put artists on... and you have this area as... some kind of... without carpet on
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] in some ways, you haven't put, you can actually be, you know, dancing on this area. I mean,tha that's the problem we got at the moment.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] On Mary's do, what we did, I put soul machine over here where the screen was
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] so people could dance on the er... on the actual dance floor if they wanted. Erm... I mean, it's not ideal but it really, it worked. It wor even, providing you haven't got a lot of... if you've only got about a hundred people it's not too bad that cos it, it... also creates a bit more atmosphere. But, it's a better... i it's not a... bad designed place in a sense that, that... I mean, it's a reasonable size room
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] and you ca and three hundred people er, you can take three hundred quite
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] easily... I mean, you know, we've had four, fives... hundred in.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] You can take three hundred quite easily. But... the erm... the other thing about it is if you have a hundred people in... it can be so also be a good atmosphere, you know?
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] Yet,i it's not one of those rooms where, if
[Barry:] No.
[speaker004:] you only get a hu yo you're struggling if you've only a got a hundred.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Erm, what I'm, I've just arranged somebody to redo our speaker syste our original system with tannoys, we blew our tannoys... speakers, and... I didn't bother getting them replaced because we were going for a rock crowd... so we just used Bernie and Nigel
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] P A there.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] What I've got, is I've got four of these directional speakers, there's two up and two on here... and then two big bass ones which sit on a floor back there. And, so it's very loud on the dance floor but you can actually talk out, out here.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] Which I thought we need to redo if we're gonna get private bookings.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Cos the one thing you always get when you've got a mixture of people, I mean, all thi this needs recovering basically as well.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] But I mean, that's not a big job it's just
[Barry:] No.
[speaker004:] re relinoing it basically.
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] Oh yeah.
[Barry:] ... Filling the smoke
[speaker004:] Smoke machine
[Barry:] up.
[speaker004:] Yeah, you got a smoke machine... we, we, we would set in little, in a hole in the back.
[Barry:] And all of these air conditioning valves are on?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] Actually I'm having the,a th I mean I can get, I'm getting our system back in operation. It, it was gonna cost me a thousand but I've done a deal with a guy who'd got stuck with some in Manchester so it's gonna cost me five hundred which I'm getting done this Friday. Erm... to put a satellite... system, to put a satellite in would be three hundred quid in total.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] So... I mean it's... that's only one... that's only one good'un, good night using it innit, a year? Pays for that.
[Barry:] Yo you're light, the er ceiling... could you not get away with covering the, get the lights a colour blue? And er... and... you know, tidying up ceiling obviously
[speaker004:] Right.
[Barry:] I mean, there's lots of bits and pieces you need for... a I mean, if you just... cover all the areas that were really Yeah. bad, er... I reckon, I says, well what do you think... yourself in, in, in
[speaker004:] Well the, the big... the single biggest cost is, is what we do with this... a carpet area.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] That's our single biggest cost, cos... as I say, I had three quotes in total, and they were all sort of between thirteen and twenty three.
[Barry:] Yeah. Thousand.
[speaker004:] Yeah. But that's, having said that, that's to carpet all this area
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] that back area I've just taken you through, that, the staircase, and the corridors out there. I mean, that's the carpet ev I just said like... I wanted a quote to carpet
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] everywhere. Erm... what we were doing is,i what it was for, was for, for prospective buyers, they wanted erm... a justification for
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker004:] the money they were gonna spend. I mean, they wouldn't have spent that money. But, they wanted... written quotes for... a justification more or less.
[Barry:] Do you think it's better being like this? Looking there, or is it better sort of, clearing your floor and get a wider dancing space and
[speaker004:] Well it's quite, it's a reasonable size
[Barry:] I know it's a fair size, but
[speaker004:] It's a fair size dancing
[Barry:] you know
[speaker004:] space actually, I mean, you get about a hundred people on here, it's, it's, it's alright. In fact the, in fact it's,i at times it's too big. That's, my one, I don't know how you'd ever get over it, but that's my one... criticism of the thing is that sometimes when you walk in... it's the first thing that hits you and unless people are dancing... it creates a cold atmosphere.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Erm
[Barry:] I mean, if you've got your group on... there's nothing better than having your floor there and are dancing on... the floor at, at, in front of the group kind of thing like
[speaker004:] Yeah, but I mean a a if you have any anything like a, a, a group takes all of this.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] If you have a
[Barry:] That's right.
[speaker004:] a main group up, you know
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] you're struggling to get
[Barry:] But then if you did this floor space like
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] we said
[speaker004:] Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I actually don't think you need carpet on... I mean I, I don't
[Barry:] Oh no.
[speaker004:] think, I don't think you need any of this carpet, to be honest.
[Barry:] black, would that look nice? Black carpet.
[speaker004:] I dunno.
[Barry:] Ah, cos Peter was saying, I dunno, I dunno... what the... black. Don't have to be black, you just want, you want something that er... I don't know really, you'd have to think about it wouldn't you?
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] Yeah. Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] Could do with probably somebody who knows what they're doing on it.
[Barry:] You want the carpet area full of seating Actually one thing Barry
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] don't you?
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] Give it a bit of warmth when they're sitting right
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] down. the area. That's one thing Ben said though, which was quite useful, he said get some people down... pick their brains.
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] You know, let them come down and give a quote Mm. for whatever you're looking at Mm. and pick what they thought, was the best thing you could do, and then don't, don't tell you but... get them made. Yeah. You know, and like That's right. I say it, these guys are working on this all the time.
[speaker004:] I mean, on a normal night... it's, the raised areas fill up with people... seated.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] This area's er, everybody's stood around.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I mean,i i it's a while before these chairs are,the they're always the last ones these... to sit
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] down cos you're in the middle of... the thoroughfare. You know,i i you need to be full to fill up that area because... well, you know yourself, people like to stand around the bar don't they?
[Barry:] Mm. Oh! That's right, yeah.
[speaker004:] So, I mean, all you do is get, I mean this... and this has been down... well it's, obviously it's been down since it opened, now I can't remember when Brewer actually opened
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] but it must be seven years ago. If we've been
[Barry:] Nearly seven or eight year ago weren't
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] it?
[speaker004:] I mean we've been in three.
[Barry:] Yeah, it'll be about eight, eight year ago.
[speaker004:] It was closed for a
[Barry:] I wonder
[speaker004:] year.
[Barry:] I wonder how ma... had to... to town, I come down from across the town.
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER] I don't know []. It's getting the steam roller up that worries me. [LAUGHTER] Well you
[Barry:] the time after don't it? Mm. Well, I mean, I don't know how to find the other one out. You only have to paint the dance floor on then don't you?
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] I wonder how much it would cost the town, like? I know it sounds silly, but I say, the silly things like that are the ones that sometimes... are the
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] ones that are took seriously. But like you say, the floor can stand it and there's nice little corner... or whatever int there? I don't know. That was rather a cheekiest thing to do. Mm.
[speaker004:] I mean, a er... a, you see ou a good, a good looking, hard wearing wo lino
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] might not
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] go amiss.... Cos then you can just, just mop it down, brush it or whatever, you don't even
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] need to bother vacuuming, which takes time, is a pain in the neck and... you can never get a vacuum that's any good anyway. And plugs.
[Barry:] they might look er... you know they look cheapy or
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] sort of
[speaker004:] But you
[Barry:] lino being
[speaker004:] No, they do, but you can get good ones now can't you?
[Barry:] Ah yeah!
[speaker004:] I mean, you can get ones that look like... I just wonder whether you can get ones that look like sort of... parquet floors almost?
[Barry:] I've seen these industrial companies and he said look, have you got any er... of your older stuff What's that? Because Polly's got a it was at the front of the bar, it's quite a heavy duty thing int it that? Mm. It'll take fag burns and, you want something that's not gonna... that's like, that's got li like that crystaley stuff Mm. innit? And, and it's non-slip
[speaker004:] Yeah, that's er, that's good. That's the stuff
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] you
[Barry:] It's a non-slip stuff.
[speaker004:] want, but I would have thought that'll be quite dear won't it? You know, that kind with all the grit
[Barry:] Yeah I know. I like that.
[speaker004:] in it.
[Barry:] I wonder if you went to the industrial companies, and said look, have you got a... a, a, a big lot of something and Yeah, well that'll be alright. You know.
[speaker004:] Well do,ja er, I mean er... is it Marnes do that floor covering? Yeah but that was for carpets, was it,i is, is, is that, do they do the floor coverings there?
[Barry:] Yeah. Course it's still
[speaker004:] Or is it Storeys or Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah, they do the floor covering.
[speaker004:] Find out.
[Barry:] Yes.... I think we'll just work out I've never been to that have you?
[speaker004:] That, that'll be that... and a, and a lick of paint
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] and then you're, you're half way there. Th
[Barry:] Yeah. Oh yeah. Yo your main job is to see th
[speaker004:] I mean
[Barry:] see the bar open and
[speaker004:] th... yeah. I mean,th the, the other thing is we need, we need it... we need it recovered... in something that's... but I mean that's not a massive... job, and we, and we, and I want the toilet trough... that sort of thing.
[Barry:] Yeah, all that sort of thing. What's the ladies like?
[speaker004:] The ladies are alright. Yeah, they're alright. Don't need, I mean... if we get somebody in to do that, we'd have somebody in do little bits of repairs here and there, but generally it's alright. I'll show you.... See, there's a tremendous amount of wasted space there!
[Barry:] Mm.... And Jean's corridor.
[speaker004:] Jean's corridor.
[Barry:] I resume, see if... the places are.
[speaker004:] It, and we had ninety on it on Saturday. Bus dri bus driver nearly we nearly hit the... the thing nearly keeled over cos he didn't realize how many he'd got upstairs and he went round the bend and it started to go. [LAUGHTER] And then... cos you're not supposed to stand up upstairs [].
[Barry:] See the crack int bog. Yeah.
[speaker004:] I think it's got a bit damaged on Saturday, then he put him back
[Barry:] Supposed to lift base.... But er... generally needs Oh I know.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Aye.
[speaker004:] The trouble is, toilets are toilets and they don't... and they
[Barry:] Oh aye.
[speaker004:] get damaged, I mean, you just have to keep... bloody working on them, I
[Barry:] That's nice, in the toilet. Yeah, take them in. That's right mate.
[speaker004:] As I say, it needs cleaning up of graffiti and a little bit of adjustment and
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] This is the problem, er,le
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] leaking roof. Cos these bloody tiles are expensive!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] They keep getting damaged and collapsing, and of course, it's part of the fire protection as well, so
[Barry:] You've got to be er
[speaker004:] Yo they've got, you know,yo you're not supposed to have damaged ones and we, you know, for an inspection we have to get th... we'd have to, oh
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] change all these.
[Barry:] Well what about, what, what... who's responsible? Is it, John is?
[speaker004:] John is. Yeah, but I mean... you know, at the moment we've not been pushing anything till
[Barry:] No.
[speaker004:] I mean, everything's sorted out, then I will.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I think what it probably needs, is just a guard round the top ventilation things
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] cos a they're open and... the wind drives under it.
[Barry:] Well it... and shut up to there with and that you can
[speaker004:] Ah yeah.
[Barry:] try them holes
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] in there
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] with special sealer. But I mean
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] That's right. That's what I mean, and we'll be alright.
[speaker004:] See... this is er that goes along here.. But what I wanna do is trough this and bury these pipes.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Cos er, you just get damage all the time in here. And I got... Tony coming to do these now.
[Barry:] Yeah. Put these under there.
[speaker004:] Somebody's pulled the sink off.
[Barry:] Mind you if you do that... your only problem then is your roof int you?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] You just
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] You just put a lick of paint again,wo your tiling's awful int it?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] But
[speaker004:] I mean
[Barry:] Yeah. It's all there.
[speaker004:] Well if you in you can see the diff I mean, you've got what... seven urinals there? But if you troughed all in an L
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I mean you'd take... could take twenty guys stood there.
[Barry:] I mean, damage is being done, say you have got seven guys there stood, what's
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] the other one doing, I think can, can pull
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] this off.
[speaker004:] Yeah. I know.
[Barry:] So they've nothing better to do. You got them on trough, then they're saying alright we'll do it somewhere else.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Then the longer you got them in here they're likely
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] to
[speaker004:] That's right.... [whispering] There's enough here... for a trough [].
[Barry:] Oh aye.
[speaker004:] Well, I dunno, it's go it's got, I was showing th I was showing the licensing people round... erm... the inspection of, Jean we Jean wasn't here, we were looking round and... fire brigade and that were there and... inspection, we turned round and all written across is... Jean is a fucking fat cow! [LAUGHTER] Alright []!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] I mean, I mean you tried [LAUGHTER] not to laugh []
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] we tried desperately to avoid looking at her, [LAUGHTER] right [].
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] And the environmental health guy there and all.
[Barry:] Well they probably thought you wrote it
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... Looks like they're not getting on.
[speaker004:] This was a good idea of Johnny's... which they did, which did... before... was this corridor, these lights up here... that one when it's re-doing, but there's one, two, three, four, five, six... and they framed... a large advertising poster.
[Barry:] Mm. Mm.
[speaker004:] And so, like hundred quid a year
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] for
[Barry:] Yeah! For putting it It could be a out.
[speaker004:] I mean it's six hundred quid for doing nothing innit?
[Barry:] That's right. Six is it? Oh.
[speaker004:] Erm, you know... er, I can't remember who they are, but it wasn't clientele, but I mean we could, you know we could
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] look around for.. the relevant er
[Barry:] That's right. And how much of this stuff's down? I mean, this' ll have been down I, oh, won't be able to get as much wear
[speaker004:] Yeah. This is, this is, this is original as far as I know.
[Barry:] Did you lay that yourself?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] A little bit... Do they just seem to stick on tap or is it a row?
[speaker004:] No, no, no this is a row.
[Barry:] A row. Yeah. The stuff that's that's the stuff you want. This is, it is not the similar stuff like we've got in the kitchen upstairs? No. No.
[speaker004:] That rug stuff.
[Barry:] It is er, it's er
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] a actually it is like that stuff. But it's different. It wasn't here was it? Same No. sort of thing. No. Maybe that's the type of thing you want on the floor. I reckon that is. That is it.
[speaker004:] In there.... Make, do some more er... extend the er er er er parquet flooring area to give you more dance room. An and, and round the... other areas which
[Barry:] Up here.
[speaker004:] and keep the carpet on the high... seating areas.
[Barry:] Oh aye. Yeah. I think it's better up there.
[speaker004:] Oh yeah. Aye, but it wouldn't cost very much to carpet those two areas.
[Barry:] No.
[speaker004:] I think you do, you know, do something
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker004:] a little bit better, but I mean but it, you just need something that's ro that's hardwearing and
[Barry:] And practical really, isn't it?
[speaker004:] you know.
[Barry:] As I say, people aren't going in in there to look at, oh! what a pretty carpet you've got.
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] Oh no! As long as it's, as long as it, it's... warm
[speaker004:] Well if you remember most of the time the lights are off.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] It's only to create an impression when you're doing it in the day time.
[Barry:] Yeah. That's right.
[speaker004:] I mean, I don't know whether you've thought any more about that... idea that Colin had, but, I mean, I don't know,yo cos you haven't... said you do, you haven't really looked round it.
[Barry:] No, that's right, you know, the, the, the only thing we've, we've... actually gonna trying to get that into a... the bar... is er...... segregate
[speaker004:] Perhaps er... Jean's left actually.
[Barry:] [cough]
[speaker004:] This is... this was... the, the cloakroom and what we were... what we were intending doing originally
[Barry:] [cough]
[speaker004:] is turn it into an office.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] I mean, we haven't done... so far but we, that's what... but, this is stuff we got... about hundred
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] and fifty quid for two massive rolls like this.
[Barry:] Mm. Well that's, well that's what not ba bad is it for those int Mm. it?
[speaker004:] Yeah. I mean that's what Jean's talking about getting.
[Barry:] Mm. That's alright int it? Oh to... but that... will fit... is a bit
[speaker004:] Well er
[Barry:] bit more thickness than I hoped, er... but if it's sat on top of there and... on top of what's on.
[speaker004:] On top of what's on? Right.
[Barry:] I don't know whether they were actually sitting right where the bevel or whatever. I know this sort of stuff is... we had similar to when I worked in the shop... er, used to, he had three quarters of this, guy come round in a van or whatever, back of a van
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and he laid it himself.
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] and by the entrance and whatever er I think you'd have to get a... professional carpet So layer just, just to make certain. Summat like that really, is, is obviously Yeah.
[speaker004:] And it's just stuck on int it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I mean i er... I, I spent... as I say
[Barry:] [cough]
[speaker004:] spent the best part of the year working... in here, sort of nine to five type... thing... and it's... mind walking down that bottom end... without any ar without any natural light.
[Barry:] Mm. Mm.
[speaker004:] That little office, you know, so I said to Jean, you know, well let's turn this into an office
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] basically. Erm
[Barry:] No I can... did you have a cloakroom then? Or did you
[speaker004:] No. I mean we u when we, when we use,whe the, the rave used this as a cloakroom. Erm... but I mean there are, there are other areas you can use.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] And you can use... you could use past that erm... cos that's the other thing I haven't shown you, is, is... this is all ours as well down the bottom end. Erm... and that's the other thing about having... having, sort of, a lot of people thinking it... having, having it... as a sort of rock club at night... they, they regard it as their own, sort of thing
[Barry:] Oh right.
[speaker004:] I mean, so when we do have to do redecoration we just gotta let the volunteers in.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Left a, a crate of Pils for them and carry on painting everything. Right this is er... that's... the snooker... next door
[Barry:] Next door.
[speaker004:] Yeah. It's alright, I'll knock it off. You don't need to knock, connect it through. That's the garden sign which blew off in the... gales before Christmas and landed on Uri 's car. Erm... [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] What you didn't do it?
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER] Yes []!
[Barry:] That's Breakers in there is it?
[speaker004:] That's Breakers in there. Erm
[Barry:] Is this an entrance as well?
[speaker004:] It can be. Down the bottom... that just goes out to the bottom and there's a back
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] erm
[Barry:] Yeah. I see that there.
[speaker004:] And it's got a sign over the
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] back with a light if you
[Barry:] Yeah, I've seen that, yeah.
[speaker004:] want it, cos we were... you know, we were thinking i we wanted to leave ourselves that option. I mean, we were thinking about like the Sunday markets and things.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] You know, utilizing, except it's a long drag for people, but, but, you
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] know, anyway. Cleaner's room... two dressing rooms, and a toilet.... I mean, they're dressing rooms or offices or whatever you want basically, I mean
[Barry:] What about there?
[speaker004:] Ye er that's er, this is just a cleaner's, cleaner's cum store room, you know, the usual
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] crap. Erm... I don't know whether these are open. I'll give you a key. Keep them all locked.... You'll find
[Barry:] Er This is for changing rooms? So this is a
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] there... casual act. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] I mean we, cos we've
[Barry:] Sort of.
[speaker004:] not been putting on any loud music recently I've not had, I'll stretch it out a little bit, but erm... you know, we had a heater in here and... er, record player and er ra er... radio and that.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean, it's a got extra padding on.
[speaker004:] Well that's right, I mean, you know, it, it... when, when it was erm... oh what's that cook who had
[Barry:] Found the place
[speaker004:] er... tt... he's now got that place in Lancaster, the er... what was the Trade and Labour club in Lancaster.
[Barry:] Oh! Ton Peter?
[speaker004:] Yeah, Peter, when he had it, he had er... double bed in there with bolts on the inside of the door.
[Barry:] Did he?
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Is he? People have often called
[Barry:] They say there's Cos Caesars are in there now.
[speaker004:] Oh are they?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Oh! Doesn't
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] surprise me.
[Barry:] You'll be getting... what is it in, they can't open now they've lost the er, they've lost some of er, they've lost some sort of. Yeah I know, but it's, it's, it's... summat... Aye. [alarm ringing]
[speaker004:] Right. So that's... round it
[Barry:] So the easiest thing really is obviously... is if I get the thing sorted out... and then, turn it
[speaker004:] Yep.
[Barry:] around and er... we've had a word with... Elliel this morning. Mm.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Erm... they... they're quite happy with... with all that sort of stuff. Yeah. They're gonna come up... are you free on Fri... Thursday afternoon at four o'clock?
[speaker004:] Thursday's a busy day for us really. Five o'clock's fine, but... four o'clock's probably.
[Barry:] But I,th th they're actually supposed to get Friday rush
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] and then you really should with the staff we've
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] got. So
[speaker004:] Er
[Barry:] , cos unless we're going to get it straight, but it just all comes in like this time of year, and just comes and let us in. I mean
[speaker004:] What so, so ba... as la as towards five o'clock as, as possible.
[Barry:] If we got here, if we got... if we got... to fa wherever you wanted to meet, where do you want to meet?
[speaker004:] Well I'd rather, I'd
[Barry:] Come down to us.
[speaker004:] I'd rather ma come down to you to be honest.
[Barry:] Well if you come down to us so
[speaker004:] Cos then Mike ought to see your operation as
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] well you see, so
[Barry:] If you bring him down about
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you know, half four to five
[speaker004:] Half four.
[Barry:] we'll be You'll get the idea we'll be getting on top
[speaker004:] Alright.
[Barry:] then, you know.
[speaker004:] Okay.
[Barry:] We're usually done by five, you know, so there's
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] no problem Make... by five
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] o'clock.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Five o'clock.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I think the biggest thing really is just like they say, is how much you can get that done for... and, get the roofing done, that's gotta be done.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Er
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] some paper... them toilets... cos er, I'm, you know, I say, from our... our, both side is... something that's er... I mean, everybody's looking purely from and return sales. All you're looking at is for an income, an income from it... and er... I reckon... can do very well. What do you, what you think of that bar area Barry? Do you think it could be inclined to be Er, the top one? as a drinking area
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] U yeah, I mean I during the day? yeah, well it was... it was what I wanted to, it was what I wanted to, it was wanted to do initially, I mean, but then you have like... so many ideas... that Yeah. you know, you can't do them all in that sense, but if you had somebody... somebody like Colin might be able to
[speaker004:] Cos you only need, you only need... him to drag... sort of... fifteen, twenty people in initially
[Barry:] And five, ten of them And they'll all, they'll all be drinkers.
[speaker004:] Yeah. But I mean... sa ta so there's an at little atmosphere there anyway
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] erm... and then you can, I mean, well it gives you the opportunity to, you know... bang in a bloody jazz band or whatever you wanna do in there somewhere
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] and, and build it up like that.
[Barry:] As you said, they haven't actually, you know, it'd be... if you could get some sort of portable
[speaker004:] Screening.
[Barry:] screen that'd just shut it off.
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] So people don't feel as though they're sat in a wide ai wide open
[speaker004:] No, I know, yeah. Yeah, that's right.
[Barry:] you know. Erm
[speaker004:] Well you ca you ca you can get that.
[Barry:] You can get, you can do something
[speaker004:] But, yeah
[Barry:] can't you?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Like you say, if you get your satellite T V in there
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you know, you can
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] just make it a cosy little bar where you can
[speaker004:] Yeah. That's right.
[Barry:] It won't cost any to give it a go would it? No. If Colin's... if Colin's up for it, it wouldn't at all. I mean, it needs to perhaps... perhaps they can do something for the first couple Oh yeah, need some sort of er Yeah. idea to get it going and get it off the ground even if you... you put your beer on at, well I just thought of couple Boddingtons put their... they're... they're gonna put their, they're gonna put there's at a pound a pint.
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] You know, just to attract some people, you know, approach the brewery, say look what about a few keg? And if you get... two or three keg... put that money into free stock you know.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Say you
[speaker004:] Cleaner's not, the cleaner's not done behind here yet.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] If you open it up, if you do get it open, and advertise it at Boddingtons a pound a pint, get them straight... to come in. You're not making a fortune at first, but once you get it going Mm.
[speaker004:] You said about traditional
[Barry:] The only other thing is the. Depends where your money is really. Whe whe where's your cellar?
[speaker004:] Right underneath. Right at the bottom.
[Barry:] Yeah, but if, if you How big's your fire exit, entrance? ... the fire exit You could put it behind, you could feed it through the wall behind to where that
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] spacious room is where all your chairs are couldn't you?
[speaker004:] Yeah. We probably could, yeah. Th well, it's no, it's not quite the back.
[Barry:] ... how would you get in there?
[speaker004:] Yeah, that's the, that's the thing I was
[Barry:] Well, it's got, it's a bit dry this.
[speaker004:] I know. It's a bloody, yeah.
[Barry:] You can still.
[speaker004:] It's fucking ridiculous!
[Barry:] Erm... cos you'd tell the brewery wouldn't you? The only other thing to do is, is do what er... er, we did at one time and just get a... bright beer and open it up and... er, and then pull it. And have it. [LAUGHTER] I know. Now there's a thought.
[speaker004:] It er, you'd have problem with er
[Barry:] But would you?
[speaker004:] Depends tha I don't know what sort of draw you can put on that pump here.... They're getting smart.
[Barry:] But I wanna do what the Three Miners do in Lancaster don't they? That's that er... that's a traditional beer innit?
[speaker004:] Yeah. That's right, yeah.
[Barry:] they gotta but he's knocking it straight
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] down aren't they? It's just getting it up here. [LAUGHTER] Yeah! Yeah []! Yeah, very strong lad this. You might have to do it later.
[speaker004:] Can I look at the telly?
[Barry:] Yeah, course you can. I was gonna It's in here. suggest that. Up here and then get. Oh, oh that's my order for Thursday.
[speaker004:] Oh right.
[Barry:] Have you got line cleaner? Yeah?
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] Yeah? That's put a.
[speaker004:] A fair, int it doing?
[Barry:] The bar, the bar, on the bar. The bar's there, I mean I was thinking you had your stool, painted that white on Yeah. or a red... a deep Oh yeah. sort of red behind the bar, maybe get a couple more like that.
[speaker004:] Yeah, a lick of paint and, and
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] and, and that, you know and you can
[Barry:] And then we'll fill the shelves up. That's right.
[speaker004:] All, all, one thing we haven't discussed is, is these ar these arrears int it, that we've got? This, the rates
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] is the biggest one int it?
[Barry:] Right. Right.
[speaker004:] Now, I don't know if it's worth asking
[Barry:] Well I could
[speaker004:] council to, if you could like lump it with the next year 's.
[Barry:] El e Elliel, Elliel said that er they could probably... twist the council's arm What's that for Barry?
[speaker004:] Well, this, you know we're on about this money
[Barry:] Yes.
[speaker004:] well, there is, there is ba bad debts, you know which er
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I don't know if I've got them here.
[Barry:] How much is that for?
[speaker004:] Well it was er... it was about
[Barry:] Twenty two.
[speaker004:] here we are, that's it er... it's rent which we we're gonna clear
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] there's twelve for rates, and the twelve and, other two's ours which we're... we
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] can, we can stand on that.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] You've got, you've got like... water rate, twelve hundred, er, rates, twelve... but er, what we could try to do is approach them and see if we can lump it in with this year and that, obviously have to pay higher
[Barry:] I mean, some of it is... is the next two month anyway... erm
[speaker004:] Yeah. But we we'd usually have... no
[Barry:] but
[speaker004:] rents, er we've no er... we've lease to pay back have we or owt like that?
[Barry:] Oh and the other... the other thing is, is, is by asking Fred for To pay. That's right.
[speaker004:] But even so, then ask Fred on the long term would be ideal. Er, the biggest thing is for us is... is making payable for you.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean
[speaker004:] At first
[Barry:] we've not gone any further with this Fre with Fred because No. we're just leaving it... so we sort ourselves out first on, on how Yes. we feel happy with it and Yeah. and whe how, how, whether you want... Fred involved in, in what way.
[speaker004:] Well it's really that's needed be here, you know, if we ca
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] if we can
[Barry:] And
[speaker004:] if we can resolve it... with... cos then you're getting summat on a different style of thinking to that, you know, I know Fred doesn't wanna be involved but then you've always got somebody, well we'll have to go and see Fred first.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] And, and I don't know.
[Barry:] Yeah, you could work it
[speaker004:] Go see Fred and he's probably got a few more pounds ready available than
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] than we have.
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] You know, that's the er
[Barry:] That's right.
[speaker004:] bit difficult.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] And that's your er, cos er personally
[Barry:] Oh, I've got the
[speaker004:] I'll say that it's not.
[Barry:] accounts in various... off-shore [LAUGHTER] islands and, and
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] black bin liners in his back garden [].
[speaker004:] If we can sort him out with rates and, I don't know.
[Barry:] If he can o if we can offset, if we can use all, if he'll out time type of thing Mm. with that Yeah. erm... the oh er
[speaker004:] You've gotta put an offer in and pay it so much a month haven't you or something and, and, and get it paid off over a period of time?
[Barry:] And then you can do it without Fred and, really, with Fred is, is at the end of day you could pro... proof pay load could go back to yourself and I, I E... and ourselves, but by having him that other cut... you're gonna be saying well... it's all a bit more than... your share. I mean, from my point of view... I don't think he's ever I don't think Fred'd be looking for anything as a return.
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] Not in the shor I'd be quite happy to come not in the short term. Not in the short term. you get tucked into it, and obviously there we'll keep it... sort of low profile. But giving it a good clean out... and getting Mm. it dus painted behind the things whatever, come on Sunday or whatever... and just say that you might In return, yeah. Just take a quite keen just to sort of get Mm. mucked into it Mm. just to save money
[speaker004:] See if you can get
[Barry:] but as long as, I say, the biggest thing from my point er... is... not to so lose money if you can do from where we're going. No. And use the fifteen grand to its best... image in the way that you feel then you can turn round and run a club... so it can get people in. Mm. And we can get the lighting in. Because that's what your best thing is Mm. you've got the ideas... and th the motions. Mm. And for yourself, and what we don't wanna do is like I say, is spend money that... is just gonna disappear and say shit! We haven't really improved the pub's... barrelage... if goes away. No. I mean,th the other aspect of the, of the fif... the other aspect of the, the brewery and me that I was... talking about, er I'm thinking about is that we we could do with... you know, okay those,th those figures are... I mean, unless they're really realistic it's gonna be... you know, six months or so
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] before we start getting up to the kind of figures where we can actually see a... you know
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] a profit each week
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] a a, a, reasonably substantial profit, I mean
[speaker004:] That's right, yeah.
[Barry:] so, with the best will in the world it's going to be six months so let's... so we need a little of breathing space Yeah. on that six months. Now... er, er obviously if, if we can, if we can get the money off the brewery cos... you know, if we can get a little bit more That's right, yes. than we actually need to spend that... that Yeah. enables us to... you know, have that breathing space... erm... so we can start Well what, what we can, you know I say, he's offering us this fifteen unsecured if we can, mind you Yeah. I don't know if we can squeeze any more or what
[speaker004:] I reckon
[Barry:] but, but, you know if say well look, you know, we could do with twenty five and he turns round and he might say well... you know,yo he might say no Mm. but we know we've got fifteen just to get us Yeah. going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What he said then is look, you know... hey he's, all you're saying really is ah, if your barrelage is there then what we do is buy... five or six barrels from Morecambe Bay Wines. Yeah.
[speaker004:] You can soon get rid of those.
[Barry:] You can say Morecambe Bay Wines and buy... all his Mm. cos what I, I just said to him I said look, I says a er sometimes I says it's an awkward time drop for us. Says well we'll get it delivered here... you know, only without Yeah well that's invoice. That's what we wanted innit? Well what we do, what we use
[speaker004:] What we do is buy it barrelled and and
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] get out be
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Morecambe Bay License form.
[Barry:] Barrel or keg.
[speaker004:] Because we ca we can live on thirty pound on barrel can't we? I think we can do.
[Barry:] I'd like you to... just purely myself, I'm not saying I'm... right and you're not right and people like Mm. my o my own personal view is if we just... pay the fifteen and it's sort of off in there straight away and then spend... but not to sort of say, well you can spend it and update it can't you? But spend what we feel is gonna make the club Mm. better image like you say Mm. somebody comes to look at it just for a view... I mean, I say, I, I'm quite happy coming like I said th... if you motion behind there, make the bar presentable... we'll fill it out with stock... then that'll look better Yeah. but if we do display
[speaker004:] Put more stock in.
[Barry:] we've got a load
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] of tent cards and display things Yeah. that could decorate that. Yeah. You know, and we'll do it ourselves, I say... I mean, what you want Barry is like wanna keep it... low profile. Mm. But we've both got time to sort, I say, somebody, we'd enjoy doing it. Because we, we, we either do it ourselves and spend Before the cricket season. Yeah. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] I mean, America are getting a private cup for here. [LAUGHTER] I mean, if you just emulsion Yeah. that, the red bits, into red... and got the, so I say, nice sort of tent cards and... and got a few firms, I mean firms and come on in and do your display you know Yeah. and your promotions and Yeah.
[speaker004:] That's something we will, we will be able to do is, you know, is
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean things like what I want on desperately quickly is Rebel Yell cos they're... spending a fortune in the rock, well all our punters all know it. I mean you go down in London it's the... it's just like Rebel Yell everywhere, but it's all heavy rock... so
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I mean it's just perfect for that, but... I know they do a display unit and things like Yeah. that. But I mean, I have to go Well that's all it wants. through, I have to go through Michelin to get that. Yeah well we'll, you won't know, you'll be. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] You might do.
[Barry:] No, no, I'll be We
[speaker004:] That's what, I mean according to Tracey on
[Barry:] You could of told me Tracey's on. Yeah, that bitch!
[speaker004:] Didn't mention.
[Barry:] He said [whispering] []. It was er... one bottle free, buy two and get a bottle free and, plus display unit you see Yeah. and I said well I want it on but he said you'll have to go for this. Oh course. Said alright, so I... filled out a bloody form and I went to Michelins, they knew nothing about it and they hadn't [LAUGHTER] got it displayed either []!
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And this was like... three weeks later, it wasn't Mm. you know... cos I said Oh yeah. I wanted to begin with that week. But that mean, I mean that's Yeah. examples handfuls of it, you know. Oh yes, you could pay for that.
[speaker004:] I think we should be able to get some proper er... box coolers in here off the
[Barry:] Mhm mm.
[speaker004:] you know these, these er... lift down ones you know
[Barry:] Mm mm.
[speaker004:] you can put all your cans in and
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] get, you know, get them in and say and say look... yo well you're gonna save money on the pints... well... give us four box coolers for a year and... you
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] know which style I mean?
[Barry:] Mm. Yeah. Yeah I know.
[speaker004:] The big ones.
[Barry:] Do all wine coolers Yeah. as well don't Yeah. they? Don't do a lot of wine... you know
[speaker004:] No but if you, only for your functions and
[Barry:] Yeah. Well true. That's kind of true, yeah. I mean, we went through... we went through nearly a case... of... one point fives at Mary's party. Leibfraumilch. I mean, it, we had I mean I reckon we had to or do you want to Yeah. how do you functions Nine, eight... er nine... er one point fives.
[speaker004:] Your shoe's just [LAUGHTER] fallen off Barry []!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah I know [].
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER] I didn't think he was get there []! Er
[Barry:] Get a few Pils' cabinets
[speaker004:] You could ge
[Barry:] off them. It's, it's great!
[speaker004:] Yeah I know.
[Barry:] The staff can't wander off you see... on a night. Can't sneak off at back cos they Oh yeah. move! I know. [LAUGHTER] They're stood here like this []!
[speaker004:] They could do your function thing. Have your function here and get a bottle of champagne free kind of thing, or whatever your, with your parties. Something, I mean, we can... work that in the price or whatever
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] you know.
[Barry:] I mean, other thing we really need to all, er you see, when I was working at it, and when we were doing it all the time
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] er you were using your own contacts
[speaker004:] Well that's right.
[Barry:] like
[speaker004:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] you know... mate of mine had... got his son at bloody... public and wants one of these posh public school type... all night parties, so we had one of those, and, you know... and er I say, like I say I just... just red er paint summat like, these are white these and just go down on the red... and just up there and just up here, just get your displays Yeah. and your bar'll look ten times better.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I tell, I mean... ju okay, forgetting the carpet at the moment... it's, it'll cost, it'll cost about a grand to get the toilets all done up
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] three hundred quid for... satellite in... erm... I need these shutters repairing... cos they're
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] knackered! And, and odds
[speaker004:] You need it all.
[Barry:] and sods and I, I, I'd like to buy a couple of lighting effects, but I mean
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you're only talking about a co you know, a few hundred quid for that. Let's just choose, I know you can't change
[speaker004:] There is
[Barry:] what the there
[speaker004:] But as I say
[Barry:] No you can't
[speaker004:] you know,
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] get, get a
[Barry:] just er
[speaker004:] cooler
[Barry:] the basis of this fifteen grand, is using the fifteen grand but like... we can see you using that
[speaker004:] I'd like to look at shuttering that area if we are gonna do your
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker004:] I will, well
[Barry:] But we can't
[speaker004:] I, I, I reckon
[Barry:] it
[speaker004:] that could pay for itself if Colin got in so you'll do that one get Colin to pay for it.
[Barry:] Colin's awa I think he's, he's taking kids away for camping and things all next week but I'll, I'll try You need I can say to him that about it. yo for a start you need those two,th these end two you need bli you need blinds on... because you can't utilize the screen... in the summer without these... I mean we got, we got blinds for all those windows, I mean Mm. they're all, all they are are... they're pho photographic... you know, when you have blackouts and er, you know the Yeah. they're that kind of mat
[speaker004:] Yeah I know what you mean.
[Barry:] white material, they're just white, but they, they... a total black out... which they use on the rave nights. I mean, I do I, think the view is quite nice... certainly if you got a summer it's
[speaker004:] Oh well, yeah.
[Barry:] quite a pleasant evening. See, my idea originally was that... cos it comes back from when I used to go in the... in the Blue Anchor in Lancaster after work... I mean we had everybody in there! We had like market traders in there... managers of Marks and Spencers and Woolies
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and, you know, building societies, insurance companies, and everybody's... i the rounds were like twenty five quid a time, but everybody's only drinking halves cos you could never
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] you know, so just half a gui... but... it, it got that, but once they changed the opening hours... do you remember when they brought in six
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] o'clock?
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] It destroyed all that.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And then er, they brought it back and then they started doing... to quarter to six, but it still wasn't good enough cos... you can't, you can't have all these people in suits and briefcases stood outside a pub for quarter of an hour waiting [LAUGHTER] for it open [], you know
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] I mean it... wasn't good
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] for their image.
[speaker004:] No, no.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] So []
[speaker004:] Suit off. Oh no they're your
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... So it like killed that. But I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's that kind of trade for, you know, a sort of... a Bic Biro runner type, you know, that kind of... well our age group, you know
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] the sort of
[speaker004:] Well that's it, yeah.
[Barry:] thirty to, thirty to
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] fifty age group.
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] And, and people want a drink after work and have a chat, cos the
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] it was a it was all business people and you're talking about
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] you know... what it was like, what things were and
[speaker004:] Once you can get people in... you know, you gotta attract them in, but once you get them in they'll
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] be,ev oh it's alright
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I quite like it.
[Barry:] Got them into this place.
[speaker004:] Make it pleasant, you know, and have to do summat... you know, just to make it... have to get nice... mirrors up on wall and
[Barry:] I mean the wine bar
[speaker004:] you know
[Barry:] in Lancaster did that happy hour didn't they? And that got
[speaker004:] That's right.
[Barry:] heaving
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] with business people.
[speaker004:] That's what you wanna do. Like I say, you know put, put your Boddys on at a
[Barry:] I bet that would be really interesting.
[speaker004:] pound a pint between
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] five and seven.
[Barry:] Elliel's our discount because you know they're doing
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] It was great!
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean the biggest thing really I think... my... interest in all this to get secure trade from us Mm. which we're gonna get... and get your salary. You know, because they're the few main things round here, you're happy, and you can feel that obviously you, you'll be working for something. Yeah. I mean, to be honest I've put in... like two, two years without any
[speaker004:] Oh I know. Yeah I know.
[Barry:] salary with this place. I mean I've been doing outside jobs to get, you know, I mean, like doing festivals and whatever else to get Yeah. my money in. So the Has an anybody come to you through the and, you're losing money,, if you're not, if you're not seeing any return you're
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] you're going through the motions
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] I mean, God, you know... if I've gotta go down to London for three days I'd rather do that cos it's gonna earn me two or three grand. Well we could set, like you say and no you know, and get it going and you make a salary [cough]
[speaker004:] and, and then if there's anything left e er, between us, and then that's all well
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] and good.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] We're, we're not wanting a wage out of it or anything, you know
[Barry:] We'll get it to the Well you'll get it, you'll get it from the turnover won't you?
[speaker004:] We we're, we're quite, we're quite pleased, you know, say well... let's see if we can get it going and, and make a success out of it.
[Barry:] And also, I mean, if we turn over hundred thousand pound with you in a year you're gonna make some money out of that. That's right. Yeah. You know, so it's Yeah. er Make a grand or summat out of that won't you?
[speaker004:] That's it, yeah.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] If we're lucky.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] If you're lucky []. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] The only th the only thing is, is th is what we'll do the beer, whether we're gonna have to connect it to the brewery or whether we can... get it through ourselves, I don't know. [sniff]... I would think you're probably gonna have, committed to... separate accounts.
[Barry:] Yeah, I'm not too bothered about that.
[speaker004:] But as I said
[Barry:] But if it's, if it can be dropped at your place
[speaker004:] Well that's it, yeah.
[Barry:] Because I mean er... you can always say look, I've got commitments all over the place and actually be
[speaker004:] Well I've tol I, I sold them that
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] I says, I says he's go he can't lose his.
[Barry:] Yeah. with you, you've gotta get the rest of the stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker004:] As long as
[Barry:] See
[speaker004:] we can
[Barry:] Well that
[speaker004:] it doesn't, it doesn't matter what barrelage you put through it... but put, as long as we know that er, the fifteen thou it's gonna be written off at thirty pound a barrel, so the sooner you, you do it, the sooner it's written off.
[Barry:] Yeah. But also Good. it also means we haven't got any, that's an area where we haven't got any repayments.
[speaker004:] I'll just have a look round there again Barry.
[Barry:] Yeah okay. Do you wanna
[speaker004:] Can I see the back?
[Barry:] play with those figures again? Dunno. Before we get started doing it.
[speaker004:] Well yeah, doing the cellar. Do you wanna have a look in the cellar now?
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Okay. gonna have a look round the back is he? Yeah. I'm just, I mean... I reckon you could, I dunno if you can just pull them in. Draw them up and we used to do... the would be quicker. Oh ta. ... you're gonna be really talking about next week aren't you?
[speaker004:] [cough]
[Barry:] It looks like it. Yeah if you can. Definitely.
[speaker004:] [whistling]
[Barry:] See... not that easy.
[speaker004:] No. I'm just thinking of that exit there. This, this is good. I mean if you put that the nearest one
[Barry:] You mean, it's a fire exit so that's the problem so you're not gonna be able to leave anything in it... that would obstruct.
[speaker004:] But... ah, so this, it's the actual fire exit for here int
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] it? Yeah.
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] That leads downstairs don't it?
[Barry:] Yeah. It goes out next to the cellar.
[speaker004:] I suppose like you say at nine thirty once the music starts no one 's gonna want to
[Barry:] Oh er, if you put, if you put... if you put wrought iron gates gates decorated type of thing round there
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and then... somebody stands there, two fifty... that's what I were thinking, an admission from here.
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] And, and wrought iron it, yeah, you know. Well wrought iron'd look... it'd look quite good for the functions trade as well cos you can get Yeah. the artificial plants up it
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] and whatever else
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] when you do Get climbing plants Yeah.
[speaker004:] You can get it, it will soon cover
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] cover it actually.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker004:] I mean close that area down.
[Barry:] And that, that would do double job cos that would do the job of your blinds as well wouldn't it?
[speaker004:] Yeah. Yeah.... And then they'll cause the atmosphere rather than
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] big open wide
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] club.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] [sniff]
[Barry:] Mm. Get your wrought, your gates there, or something like that to be Yeah. round the back, which entrance would they come in? They wouldn't come in that end.
[speaker004:] Well all you do right, you have gates
[Barry:] Well I mean
[speaker004:] then they're open... so that at half nine... you close them there, or at ten o'clock you close them there... and you say when they come through... if you're going out that
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] way... or whatever.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean I... I think you just have to... but
[speaker004:] It's something that you've gotta be
[Barry:] You'd have to play it by ear I think. Yes
[speaker004:] thinking ahead.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[speaker004:] You know, you're thinking well
[Barry:] Let's
[speaker004:] at first you could just wrought iron it round and, and just give it that
[Barry:] As you say, if somebody's been in there from bloody five o'clock and wants to stay till eleven
[speaker004:] Well that's it.
[Barry:] or twelve, then fine, let them. I mean I... th I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind that
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] you know, I mean So you could either come in half eight, half nine or That's right. You know
[speaker004:] But really, you know
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] what you do? At half nine you put someone on the door here to take money, anyone who comes in, whether they come into here or go into there
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] anyone who's been drinking all afternoon [LAUGHTER] if you want to er, wander across []
[Barry:] Yeah, I mean, what you, what you'd have to be careful of is, is sooner or later people'll catch on... to Yeah. coming in at quarter past nine
[speaker004:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] buying one extra drink and erm... getting a... you know... cheaper than saving theirselves two and a half quid then. pint they buy, and if they buy five pints [LAUGHTER] Yeah []! they can have a three, er er... a three pound voucher.
[speaker004:] Can you imagine Polly organizing that all!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] We're getting complicated aren't we?
[speaker004:] Why can't we do it, to me, cost effective.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] Torture.
[Barry:] Complicating issues. I remember... at the Uni when we used to give... we used to put stamps on people, you know,
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] for pass outs and that or anything
[speaker004:] So does Broadway.
[Barry:] and er... I bloody, I said, I said in the end I've, what we ought to do is... lop some part of their anatomy off, like a little digit or something then we can prove they've been in [LAUGHTER] eventually, after about two years when you get this sort of... armless, legless cor
[speaker004:] Oh oh! [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] body... oh he's a good customer! [LAUGHTER] We'll let him in for free! He gets a free, free ticket []! Well it's like, like a... all you want to do is
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker004:] That's what you get,... you just gotta stand or you went downstairs to another bar
[Barry:] Yeah,th the trouble is you're
[speaker004:] and got a stamp
[Barry:] you
[speaker004:] and they would
[Barry:] you, you're doing it in the same... room
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] aren't you? That's the.
[speaker004:] That is as well.
[Barry:] But I... I dunno, I... see it's not... once you're u actually up here, looking... I think it's different when you're up here looking back as when you're over there looking up here. Yeah. It's not quite as cold and empty as
[speaker004:] If it got going you'd probably use mo... another, another half of area, you know
[Barry:] Yeah, yeah, you want
[speaker004:] you don't wanna close it off. But, like you say maybe just... just a bit of wrought
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] ironwork
[Barry:] Yeah. I think so.
[speaker004:] to just
[Barry:] I think you do I think that would look good anyway... and
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and it would also enable you to... quickly and easily do something on the erm... on the, on the private functions night to make it look... different. Mm. I mean, I wouldn't suggest putting plants up and everything... for our normal... you know, rock nights, I mean we just... have the wrought iron up and whatever, but
[speaker004:] I mean, with them sort of then
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] once you got erm tied into these you can
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[speaker004:] do whatever to the thing.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] But it would give you affect.
[Barry:] That's right. I mean, those are just... we just went out and chucked a few fucking trees down.
[speaker004:] They're not real then Barry?
[Barry:] No, the trees are... the er... things tied on to them aren't.
[speaker004:] Oh.
[Barry:] But er
[speaker004:] Yeah.... I think, it's quite actually, it needs a bit of character.
[Barry:] I mean, that'll cover Yeah. if you did that in quite a few places Yeah. throughout the room it would cover your cracks and your holes Ye and your, your. I mean, what we initially wanted to do with all this was cover this whole area in, in greenery and have this as a sort of restaurant ta type.
[speaker004:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean, again, it's ideas when you're sat It's ideas. planning, before you've actually moved in and get It is. Yeah, yeah, that's right. and get... and then, then you start that's, that's the other thing when there's only two of you involved... and you, we were opening for that first sort of eighteen months... five, six days a week... just keeping on top of a day to day business doesn't allow you to sit back
[speaker004:] No, I know that.
[Barry:] and expand it, and whereas, you know, that, that's one area that'd be great with having yo your involvement
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] that you go in and say well... you know It sounds like this sort of thing Yeah.
[speaker004:] When did you paint all this green?
[Barry:] It was when I was working for Walt Disney, so it'll be... two years ago. Two years
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] ago. I was over in Belfast and I came back and it were green. It was alri it's, it's actually lasted reasonably well considering it hadn't been
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] for two years.
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] But again, it was all done, it was all literally done in a weekend. Yeah. It was like a... virtually an all night blitz job and... so bits of it, you know, it wasn't like, totally completed, you know, you've got... and as Scouse was doing some of it it was er... [LAUGHTER] the paintwork leaves something to be desired in... areas [].
[speaker004:] Something there Barry... little bit in there look.
[Barry:] Just coming down a little bit. They just need brushing back up.
[speaker004:] It's got a few... you've got the
[Barry:] Not a problem.
[speaker004:] roof repaired haven't you? This
[Barry:] Yeah. The heating's very efficient as well. It's very hot gas heating. Yes. Erm They did do it, like you say it was more or less just covering for itself now... and then use Mm. you build up, up and up don't you? Yeah.
[speaker004:] So
[Barry:] Yes.
[speaker004:] Let us have a look at cellar and then we'll, d'ya wanna, and then we'll, [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] then we can say we've to looked at everything and then we know where... you know
[Barry:] Yeah. Okay.
[speaker004:] and then we can er... we can start, you know, we can, at least we can say look, we've got fifteen grand coming in and th it.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] But we need a full.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean, we can, we can start by... we I mean we can get people set up... for doing things from the first of March can't we? Yeah. The little bits and pieces that we talked about. Well we, well we, we can start if you wanna start with the Or we can think about doing something about
[speaker004:] Yes.
[Barry:] this. We can start giving it a lick of paint if you wanna start giving it a lick of paint. You see, now the more you think about it, I mean the more you... you don't actually use this
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] very much. I mean, you look at it, if everybody was seated in this area that could be seated... I mean, you're only talking about bloody I thirty people. I don't think it's too bad actually. I don't think the carpet's too bad at all really. Well th there's areas, I mean Yeah. tha the licens Oh yeah. the licensing people would pull us up on that Yeah. if they came.
[speaker004:] But maybe, if you could cut it off from there.
[Barry:] That's what I mean, you gotta... and then do it, clear it, and then clear all that Mm. and just left that area
[speaker004:] Clear all that
[Barry:] and they're obviously, they're gonna say
[speaker004:] Come right up to the... right up to bar really aren't you?
[Barry:] [sigh]... Yeah. I mean th th er, the other thing psychologically is it's, you know Blue Rhapsody. Blue Rhapsody. If you wanted to cha if you want to change it slightly you've got... a problem.
[speaker004:] You know... I think it, I think it's something that you can say well... you know, that'd be one of our objectives
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] once we get it going, but le
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] alright,we we've got
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] a few bob in the kitty
[Barry:] Right.
[speaker004:] let's, or we can go to brewery for another five grand, we'll do the carpet
[Barry:] Mm.
[speaker004:] now.
[Barry:] I reckon the first thing really is, is get your salary. Mm. Get your salary, that you feel that I'm doing this and I'm getting it right. Mm. Is that the right... sort of, if our... I mean from our objective is to get more sales Yeah. right now. That's right. That's right. And we've gotta That's right. manipulate people to say well, how do we get them drink more? And you say like five pound a head when they... they come in
[speaker004:] How bad's the seating though?
[Barry:] Sit there till
[speaker004:] Is it, is it that bad?
[Barry:] It's, it's, if, it needs doing
[speaker004:] Oh it needs doing does it?
[Barry:] You know. If you've got a guy gathered, I'm not saying try but if you got somebody who, who did the job and gathered it in... like they would do. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it i An upholster. It's a perpetual patching up job at the moment
[speaker004:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] Because, because it is only patched up, it's Yeah. it... create more problems o you know... cos people stand on it and Get an upholsterer just to come and... tidy it up Yeah. and fill in where there's been Yeah. some damage done. Yeah, that's right. I mean there's Just, just... tart it up really. There's a bit of structural damage to the support Yeah. and things like that, that... start the seating going and things.
[speaker004:] Right. Okay.
[Barry:] Oh this... this... actual stuff anyway we'll go, we're putting that with that is alright to that Oh yes. the back's have been Yeah. alright. Oh yeah. There's a few of them damaged but, but erm... I think we've repaired most of them. You see, we did get it all completely repaired when we moved in, cos it was in a hell of a state from Peter! Cos Peter had this place. Yeah. That's right.
[speaker004:] Well we, we, we know
[Barry:] We knew
[speaker004:] about that.
[Barry:] about that.
[speaker004:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] How? Did he
[speaker004:] Cos we
[Barry:] owe you money?
[speaker004:] we gone
[Barry:] Well
[speaker004:] and got it actually.
[Barry:] Did you!
[speaker004:] Bloody right!
[Barry:] God! You must be one of the few people
[speaker004:] It were quite good cos what we had, we had th the... the other partner... who was, you know, the other partner is Michael.
[Barry:] He was called, what was he called? Ken? No, no.
[speaker004:] No.
[Barry:] No, that's
[speaker004:] Yes.
[Barry:] that's John. But what do you call him? That erm I know who you mean, I met him, yeah. Cos the other guy was a, was a bar manager... Duncan or Mm. Der summat like that, and his wife had a baby at the same time as Elaine's so she... our midwife would come and er, so the... she kept in touch really of... of what they were... because they wanted to, I'll take the place off, they wanted to take it over. I don't think they was er... as bad a No. shower of shit No. as he were No. tended to No. be. But er, in the end they never got the license back. Because what they did try and do is buy the catholic club didn't they? Top of Lancasters. Next to the Cos the Alex. The Alex. They tried to get behind there, the catholic Yeah. club. Right. Then they got, they didn't get it past. Mm. But er... he actually owed Yeah, that used to be about five grand at one stage and got it down to three and half, and then he got to six hundred and eighty... and they went to court and then they got
[speaker004:] ... He paid it.
[Barry:] Paid it... through the court. Well that was... remarkably
[speaker004:] Lucky.
[Barry:] lucky.
[speaker004:] Yeah I know.
[Barry:] He didn't half go for a lot again.
[speaker004:] Yes we did seem to be quite lucky to keep [LAUGHTER] [].
[Barry:] Yeah. But I, I, I'm amazed that breweries keep lending him money! I know. I mean, it's unbelievable, you know th er, he's done so many breweries and yet why they don't talk to wo well I mean they must talk to one another.
[speaker004:] Because you get people like Ben who's giving his money he doesn't really give a toss!
[Barry:] He don't give a toss. Mm. As long as he's got an installation going in and if it Yeah. if it gets written off or
[speaker004:] Gets bigger.
[Barry:] or someone has to take a, a bi a co company has to take a big lot off. It's par for the course really. Mm. Well, you know. Dreadful innit? Well he's got that much money to burn Barry that's what it is. Mm.
[speaker004:] You've gotta burn to, to cover all... they've just laid three hundred and thirty management staff off... management, not dray lads, not brewery lads.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[speaker004:] Three hundred and thirty managers... where
[Barry:] I think it's your, that's your T V thing is it? Yeah. T V, video projection. How do you work that thing? How do you work that thing? From behind there. And where's it come there? That one. That just puts on At the moment we use
[speaker004:] Rock videos.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean, Mark's got some... great stuff of the sixties er er... er, ex, ex movies of the so er trailers of ex movies, you know
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] sizzling, sexual and all these sort of and,wha what was really outrageous in the sixties looks so tame, but
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] it's on in black and white and fifties, it looks quite good fun.
[speaker004:] Well that on a Thursday
[Barry:] It's
[speaker004:] night could be a sixties night then.
[Barry:] I mean when we get, when
[speaker004:] A fifties night even, you know.
[Barry:] when you get tho when you get the half the er... when you get sort of well like the scooterist dos and th the DJs bring it up, I mean they bring in a hard core You'll have to try and change the old fash and things. [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] And... and... and quite amazing watching Jean
[speaker004:] Yes.
[Barry:] picking up
[speaker004:] Yeah.
[Barry:] bottles on the night and... bonking going on []! [LAUGHTER] Was Alistair ringing you yesterday?
[Terri:] Me? Well he rang Peter. Oh God! Well he must have been trying....... and they told me... it was, very, very urgent! So I said, oh! Well, come and speak to him. But, so... I went, and he said oh! Barry's dad's been on the phone he wants to you to urgently book a bus... so he co Will you see if that says, that sort, yeah it is.... I'll put that on.
[Barry:] [whistling]
[Terri:] I think it is, isn't it? Yeah.
[Hugh:] But he does
[Terri:] Yeah, you just bend them over. That's it. It's, they're not as easy to bend as you think.... Got a screwdriver round here.... Do you want me to... hold them up for you?... And this blasted, then we'll get start. You know what Colin does and whatnot. Right. You want me to see if I can find Mick don't you?
[Barry:] Mick who?.
[Terri:] Mick.... Actually, I had a think last night, I'll tell you who else you want to get hold of. Your friend who's the signwriter.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] Don't
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] you?
[Barry:] Harvey. Yeah. I hadn't thought of that.
[Terri:] Lives near the factory somewhere. Might be in on Friday.
[Barry:] Doubt it.
[Terri:] Why?
[Barry:] It's Saturday it was... it's not bloody arrangement.
[Terri:] Oh no! I meant... I meant... he lives somewhere near the factory. I think Scouse knows where he lives. Cos sometimes you see him a lot, and then he has a spell of not coming in don't
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] he?
[Barry:] That's right.
[Terri:] Mm.... They keep sending, they keep changing my passport! Well they do, don't they?
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] Well I'll have changed one next week. What's wrong with that brush?
[Barry:] It's broken.
[Terri:] It's broken.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] What i what's other end? Has other end already been used?
[Barry:] Looks like, looks like sawing off and redoing
[Terri:] Ah!
[Barry:] it.
[Terri:] Need to get a new brush. I think that's a point.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] Just get a... a new stick for the
[Barry:] That's enough.
[Terri:] Just go in bin. I just want to make this phone call for... when we... lock the door and.... Mm. I'm going into Lancaster Saturday. Erm... no, but I can leave a message can't I? To say, you know... they er... [whispering] when Barbara must, has got to go back in hospital []. That little... Lancaster.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] Erm, you know she had this... cancer seven years ago... when she had her breast cancer and, had her breast taken off... they've now found it's gone further in seven years... she, you know, she was
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] forgotten all about it, anyway... she found a little dent... apparently our Laura said that's just as bad as finding lumps. She just went and said I've got this... you know, check up, cos she knew she was going to Christies for her final check up... and, they've whizzed her in. Got to... do another operation and remove all the glands from under her arm. So... it's not as though they're gonna get anyone to come.
[Barry:] No.
[Terri:] I mean I... I obviously hadn't said that to her.
[Barry:] Oh no! Obviously.
[Terri:] But er... she said she'd been feeling a bit rough recently. But she never suspecting it was, you know, when they'd been alright for seven years you
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] you think you're alright don't you? So she's, going in... today. Erm... so I'm gonna go in this afternoon to see her. See if they've taken any.... And I hope. I hope she does.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] You know,.
[Barry:] Yeah. Anything in it? Have you seen it?
[Terri:] Yes. Well they would. Oh! A bit
[Barry:] You know like you being all pathetic.
[Terri:] No. Well, a bit I intend carrying on as the... parliamentary candidate... and somebody had obviously asked Dave why it is something has nothing whatsoever to do with the constituency. That was last time's agent. And he said, oh well it's probably being discussed at the next meeting. Well he's under a lot or else he won't. Still... he won't come if he thinks there's any... messing about. I mean,i it would be... zilch for the Labour Party to try and swap candidates now. You know... it would be just stupid wouldn't it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] Mm. What would they achieve?
[Barry:] Well... that's right. I mean I don't know Dave 's just not... That's stupid! Why make any comment whatsoever?
[Terri:] Yeah. Why not just keep quiet? So, you know... cos it just says all candidates receiving.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] I mean Labour can't win either way. They've got to hope that it'll be resolved before then. If they put another candidate in... it's... doesn't do Labour's name any good does it?
[Barry:] Mm. Well it's a
[Terri:] It's a waste
[Barry:] enough of these ad pamphlets. Guilt?
[Terri:] Well it's, it's been looking as though you're... you're guilty before... there's problem a admitted.... I mean as we're not looking to win anyway, I don't know what the hell they're bothered about.... I mean it's not exactly, you know, the world's safest Labour seat is it?
[Barry:] No. What was this big presentation yesterday? The... tourist notices... buffets. Mm?
[Terri:] Well what it is
[Barry:] Thrown out of their offices.... Champagne and caviar job.
[Terri:] Probably won some... trivial award.
[Barry:] No, no, no, they were going to present him wi for something. Something to do with hoteliers or summat.
[Terri:] Yeah. You don't for
[Barry:] Probably needed a map to get here did he?
[Terri:] Presume so.
[Barry:] I've read it.
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I've just seen to it... that....
[Terri:] A hotel with wouldn't you?
[Barry:] Er, in Blackpool?
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] How long's the conferences? Two days? Three days?
[Terri:] Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Friday afternoon, two o'clock... Saturday, Sunday. Finishes at lunch time on Sunday.
[Barry:] Erm... I mean I don't know, whether
[Terri:] What?
[Barry:] you're still interested in, I don't know whether you're still interested in speaking but erm, we've just been approached by the A N C, they're pulling everybody back, there's, everybody's going home.
[Terri:] Oh.
[Barry:] Cos, the repatriation... what they call, the United Nations... start
[Terri:] [phonecall starts] Hello. Can I have bookings please?... Oh! Good morning. This is Mrs. I made a booking for... erm, two doubles and two singles for the... seventh and eighth... you've sent me the confirmation out at the non-delegate price. Co... erm... it should have been,i it's a Labour Party booking and a Conservative Labour Party booking. Erm, we did ac... yeah, seventh and eighth, yes.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] Yes. Got the... special rates in front of me. It's the Labour Party conference... erm... bed, breakfast and evening meal is thirty five pounds... and forty. No, it's... bed and breakfast is quoted at thirty five... a erm... double is quoted at sixty six, and singles at forty six [phonecall ends].... [whispering] This apparently happened to Jim last year [].
[Barry:] But, he did get a... special price?
[Terri:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] Say what can I get them [LAUGHTER] for then []? Say, bugger all!
[Terri:] Well, quite. So they don't want to
[Barry:] Where is it??
[Terri:] with Gordon. Labour Party local government
[Barry:] I know.
[Terri:] themselves. [phonecall starts] What? Yes.... Be sixty five for a double... sixty five for single
[Hugh:] You want a new door valve fitting on there. Once the winter comes
[Terri:] Erm, well that's not, not including forty pound
[Hugh:] it is two little... well at the bottom
[Terri:] forty so
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] the door's been broken
[Terri:] Forty six.
[Barry:] Right. Erm, they're thirty a time
[Terri:] Yes.
[Barry:] those aren't they? Cos he, he changed the whole pad you know.
[Terri:] Well, I, I don't I'd ever the whole booking.
[Hugh:] Is it is it er... I mean it's reasonable... because it's only bottom one?
[Terri:] They did at Blackpool last week
[Barry:] Yeah, yeah. No that's alright.
[Hugh:] It's when the middle ones are gone tha that's a problem
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] innit? Right.
[Barry:] No that's okay, just leave it at that.
[Terri:] If, if this happens now you, you won't get... bookings for a national conference in there. Mm. It's actually in... it's, it's actually a special leaflet produced by Blackpool, nineteen ninety two re register of conference accommodation. And these are the prices quoted... for... erm... no, it doesn't say from... no... nope... it just says what the prices would be. But apparently this happened last year at this particular conference. Yes.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] Well, I haven't got a fax here but I... I can... send you one because... I certainly know my delegates wouldn't want to book at er... mm. Yeah, no... well we, we can let you have a copy erm... but erm, you know, I, I can't... make these reservations at... at normal prices, my delegates won't accept that. So, tell, tell me what you're saying it is.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] Yeah. Yeah. Well that's not what's been quoted you see. It's, erm... th th the whole, the two conferences for the year, local government and national conference... are... are on this same register. Yes. Yes, it's the... i I mean, I, I happen to be a delegate to national conference as well, so I ha I actually have two of these brochures. I've got... the brochure for local government conference, which is this weekend... and I've got the brochure for national conference.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] So I actually have the same brochure twice. But erm... I know my delegates won't, won't want to book at that... er it's, they, they will expect to book at... prices quoted in the... in the conference register.... Okay. We will. Thanks. Bye [phonecall ends]. Certainly won't want to book at that Barry!
[Barry:] Well haven't you got a problem if there's no hotels available?
[Terri:] I have got a massive problem.
[Barry:] Well you can always commute.
[Terri:] Well, that's what we do because... they won't put up with that.... Have to try
[Barry:] Is there no hotels... I mean, just along that Preston Road?
[Terri:] Well, that's what I'll have to look for now. I'm in difficulties now. And these are quoting er
[Barry:] Mind you, you're not gonna get a delegate rate from them are you?
[Terri:] Eh?
[Barry:] You're no the further we, you go away, the further you go away from Blackpool but it's not at
[Terri:] Oh yeah. But I think
[Barry:] delegate's rate.
[Terri:] I mean, I can find... I can find places that are... reasonable... at that. But Francis told me that had happened to them last year.... Boo [LAUGHTER] bookings please. If it's still possible to book erm, two doubles and a twin for this weekend or are you booked up [phonecall ends]?
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Barry:] Are they delegates all the time... conference?
[Terri:] [whispering] Well I couldn't get one []. I'm in real trouble.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Barry:] giving a... giving it a... a service?
[Hugh:] Ah yes. When she's
[Barry:] Yes.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] That plastic cupboard for the keyboards that
[Hugh:] Yeah, the... cupboards that got all the
[Barry:] No, no. The
[Hugh:] Which one?
[Barry:] the other one. Yeah, that's right. You know what you have to do?
[Hugh:] On the
[Barry:] Oh right!
[Hugh:] it sits on top of the hood.
[Barry:] Oh yes, that's right yeah. Sorry!
[Hugh:] Yeah.... Yeah, I'd empty your liquid out of the keyboard
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] You know you need that
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] keep those on all the time.
[Barry:] That's right. It came off at one stage.
[Hugh:] Right.
[Barry:] They weren't using it, so
[Hugh:] Oh!
[Barry:] put it back on and
[Hugh:] Aye. Someone's
[Barry:] keep it on.
[Hugh:] ye cos you know, it's easy enough to
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] just get a few drips
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] you've had it!
[Barry:] Ah! You found one of those. Yeah.
[Hugh:] But erm... you've got problems.
[Barry:] ... especially blackcurrant and orange
[Hugh:] I know. Aye. Oh!
[Barry:] revolting!
[Terri:] ... and it's Evesham.... And it's.... I'll confirm to you today. And they'll arrive,mo... Friday afternoon. Okay. Thanks very much indeed. Bye [phonecall ends].
[Barry:] That was lucky!
[Terri:] That was very lucky!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] It was Bob who told me he booked we... our union normally stay at the Claremont you see.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] She said I've got, only got three twin rooms left in the whole of this hotel... so... I'll ring Francis and tell her.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] It's alright the Claremont. Oh, they're always quite nice
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Terri:] and sociable
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] with us.
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] [phonecall starts] Francis? It's Jean here. I... yes, I've just had my massive little row with The Savoy... about the prices and they just wanted to charge us the normal price! So I've said they can get stood on. And I booked at the Claremont... which is, twenty eight pounds. Well, I'm not being prepared to be held to ransom by them. And I'm, I'm faxing... erm... I'm sorry, I'm not gonna fax it, I'm just going to send a letter to national office... about The Savoy in First Leisure. Because they can't do this to delegates! Cos they did it with you last year didn't they? Mm.... Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we should tell national office that this is, you know, this is happening and it's not on!... I've got... I'll tell you what I've got, I've got for nineteen ninety two... confere Register of Conference Accommodation, from national office... whe where they tell you to book! You know, cos I'd got it at a P P C as well, for national conference. So I've actually two you see. So... erm... I'm sending one back to national office saying, these hotels are sending confirmation at the full price for local government conference. Now... I, I've rung the Claremont and they've said, oh yes, it's the conference erm... you know... amount... and we're very,appar we were, I was very lucky cos we got the last three rooms. And she said, we're absolutely booked up! But, you see Bob told me about it, he said, well he, you know... booked at the Claremont because he'd had problems getting prices out of the others. But, our union always stay at the Claremont and we've always found it, you know, okay. But I'm, I'm not paying sixty five quid a night! It's just stupid Francis! Cos you're never in it. I mean, you always go to... you know, somewhere else don't you?
[Hugh:] [whistling]
[Terri:] I didn't ask Francis, so just let me tell you... erm... they were when I went, it's A, B, D, E, and it's got all the letters next to them. You know, they say there's a full range of facilities... and... I'm just looking... A is central, bedroom, I'll tell you, I'll, I'll, I'll, we'll whiz through them. A is central heating, C is car parking, D is... street car parking, E is special diets catered for, F, tea and coffee making facility, G is television in bedrooms at no extra charge... I is for answering and J...... K, I've, I'm, just to go all through this, disabled facilities, L... separate... M... bedrooms available with private telephones in, it's N, number of bedrooms available with... private bathroom and toilet or shower and toilet. And that's what it says. It was, was when I went Francis. Night porter, Q is lifts to all floor, and S is swimming pool... and I know there's a swimming pool because... not that I ever used it, but... ma it, it was when I booked Francis. It's right on the prom on the corner on, on North Prom. It's not far from the Imperial Francis. So... but it was erm... just go on that bit of the prom, it's huge! It's a huge hotel on the corner. You can't miss it. I'll, I'll give you the o the address anyway. Erm, two hundred and seventy North Prom.... Yeah. Two seventy North Prom. Erm, and you just say what... yeah, two seventy North Prom. It's, it's pa just past, if you keep going past the Pembroke... it's there. But erm... that's right, going out. Yes. It's just past there. You can't lose it Francis, cos it's one of the major hotels. Yeah. They've got, they've got lots of bars, there's a bar in the basement and there's bars upstairs, and a dance floor and a swimming pool and... I'm sure it will Francis. I mean... yeah, well I don't blame him. But it says... number of bedrooms available with private bathroom and toilet, or shower and toilet. There are very few hotels of this standard that don't have showers and toilets. So... it's twenty eight Francis, which is, I think is... yes. Yes. Well, it doesn't matter where we go to eat does it? And we, can go and eat wherever we want. Oh! But... th you can have bed and breakfast and evening meal if you want. Erm, but generally,ye I mean cos Eileen and I go to a... we nearly always go somewhere like Carriages or... you know, somewhere Italian... which is, you know, it might, it all depends on what Jim's eating at the time. But, but... you can't go wrong, there's plenty to eat in Blackpool can you? In fact, I'm trying to think of a place that erm... we once went when we... at regional conference, it was behind the Claremont somewhere. It was a... it was a... little Italian restaurant with about forty six... and we went at regional conference and it was astounding! It was a really brilliant chef! I'll try and get Bob to find the... the number of it. Cos that was really... a really nice place. But, you wouldn't have expected to find it where you found it. No. You know the road behind the promenade? It was on that road. And we only found it by chance, you know how you go off to... think oh I'll, I'll go and find a coffee or something, and we found this restaurant at lunch time and had a coffee there... and we looked at the menu and, you know, we, we couldn't believe it! Yeah. Well I'll try, I'll try and get Bob to remember the name of it. Alright. And so I'll see you when we get there Francis. I said we'll a probably arrive early afternoon. So... no... doesn't... well you know what he'll be like, he'll be messing about all day. But I know Kinnock's speaking at four isn't he? So we... I want to... Yeah. Yeah. Oh well he'll have to be then. Yeah.... Yeah. That's alright. Don't worry. I'll, I'll look after. Because there's erm... there's... Geoff and Louise are staying with us, and Eileen and I are staying. You and Jim are staying. And I know that Bob and Sue have booked at the Claremont so there'll be quite a few of us there. So, I'll, I'll keep an eye on us. And I'll go and have a look at your room. [LAUGHTER]... Just to make sure everything's alright... before he gets there. Right. Thanks Francis. See you Friday. Bye [phonecall ends].... I should have checked that shouldn't I?
[Barry:] Well... is a... en suite.
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I don't think it is gonna be en suite.
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Well they said, the number of rooms... didn't it? Didn't say all rooms. And if you've got the last three I can't believe that the last three are en suite.
[Terri:] I only need one en suite.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] That's what I thought []!
[Terri:] It'll be two rooms and a bath or a shower.... Shall I ring back?
[Barry:] I stayed at the Claremont when I was down doing and I can't remember where it is on the street.
[Terri:] Well, I... we were when I went
[Barry:] John was. John... but mind you, John has been insistent on it, he
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] moved a whole delegation if it weren't en suite.
[Terri:] Yeah.... Well Bob will do me a swap if... it's gonna come to a crisis. I think I'll ring Madge up. Cos it will cause a crisis
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Terri:] with Jim.
[Barry:] Of course. I mean... he's at the age of being incontinent int he?
[Terri:] Call me regional. Is he introducing a conference now?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... John unwashed and unshaved on the front delegate, on the front.
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah. I'd er... ring up just in case cos you might have to solve your problem.... Better to knowing now than to know when you arrive there.... Have they mended your photocopier yet?
[Terri:] No. They won't be if you want to photocopy something.
[Barry:] I might do. [phone rings]
[Terri:] But we'll give them a ring now anyway.
[Barry:] I need to get hold of Mayfair as well cos there's cigarettes out... so
[Terri:] [phonecall starts] Hello, it's Mrs here, I've just spoken to the other lady... making a booking for... three twin rooms. Can you just check whether they're en suite. They are? Oh brilliant! You've saved my life! Else my chairman was er, just gonna give. Oh! That's great! No problem. Thanks. Bye [phonecall ends].
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... Phew! Yeah.
[Terri:] Better telephone... so that she can be sure that... when he asks the dreaded question that they are.... Must remember I've got to talk to him about here.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] ... [phonecall starts] The answer is yes, they all are. Ah! Francis I had a little panic then, and I decided to ring [LAUGHTER] them back []. But, no... yeah... yeah... well, I thought, I thought I'd better... be safe, yeah. I don't want a weekend with Jim where I, I'm in trouble [LAUGHTER] all weekend []! Oh don't Francis! I mean er, I'd, I'd never have lived it down.... Yeah. Well that's what he'd say to me, why didn't find out first? So, anyway, you're reduced from, [LAUGHTER]... so it's en suite. Yeah. She said... exactly Francis! Well we'll spend it on food and drink Francis. [LAUGHTER]... But erm... er, I feel a lot more comfortable cos I think sixty five pounds a night's outrageous! For just spending... well, for us, when we're just, you're only there for... your breakfast aren't you? You never go back again. So... because we'll be able to have lunch at British Home Stores. [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] We'll not be able to break with tradition []. Geoff will insist that we go to British Home Stores for, well we'll, if, if we we're with Geoff and Louise, that's where we generally go to lunch, and... it's really nice! It's a lovely... self-service [LAUGHTER] in Blackpool []. But... [LAUGHTER]... you know the Labour Party is worse than the Conservatives for traditions aren't they? Mm. Anyway, look... I'll find out from Bob about this restaurant and... see if there's a possibility that it might be worth booking before I go. But I know that Jim's going to have to. And I... I don't want to spend all night chasing round Blackpool looking for... for a place that serves ordinary food of a decent... standard. Right Francis. I'll leave on that note. [LAUGHTER]... Bye [phonecall ends]. Yeah, she does want to go. They don't want him trailing down th ... well we're in a next week.
[Barry:] It would be... a couple of days.
[Terri:] I think it's.
[Barry:] I want Mayfair as well. I want Mayfair to come.
[Terri:] Filling the machine?
[Barry:] Fill it up. It's empty, so... Mayfair fills it up.
[Terri:] [phonecall starts]... You don't know where he is do you? Oh! Right. Okay. I'll try County Hall. Right. Thanks. Bye [phonecall ends].
[Barry:] What's it called... Mains?
[Terri:] Mains Business Services. It's here... I think, but I'm not sure.
[Barry:] Mains, Mains, Mains, Mains. Oh! They have been getting Ma Macs first don't they? For some unknown reason!.
[Terri:] [phonecall starts] Well can I have the Labour group then please?
[Barry:] You tell me why they has... Mac before... Mains. Mm.
[Terri:] Right [phonecall ends].
[Barry:] L M, Main. H, I, J, K....
[Terri:] Close. Sor if I sorted out being able to book at this restaurant which only is about...... I'd be in
[Barry:] How many nights are you there, two?
[Terri:] Two. Be in... if, everybody's good books. Cos it really, it's really nice! We just found it by chance.
[Barry:] You can't, can't
[Terri:] It
[Barry:] remember what it's called?
[Terri:] I know! I just can't. Bob'll know.
[Barry:] Well you probably, I mean you, you as, you as well, so... I mean, you probably won't
[Terri:] No he's
[Barry:] be able to get there till this evening and you probably won't be able to see him will you?
[Terri:] No. Well a as long as he knows I'm looking for him. They erm... wa when we to we, we were staying at the Claremont... and... I don't, oh, I think we just decided we'd find a cup of coffee. It was M S F thing, we were with Margaret about the... M S F. And... said, oh, let's go and find a cup of coffee... but, have a bit of a walk and walk down to conference but we'll not walk down the prom
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] we'll walk down the road at the back... and we'd only just turned round the corner from the Claremont and we found this restaurant... and it was, it was an absolutely brilliant chef, really nice restaurant, really high quality... and it was... was... quite reasonable price, it wasn't cheap.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] So, when we found this we thought ooh, this is alright! You know, we'll... so we've been quite a few times since, but I cannot think of the name of it. You see, Jim doesn't like, I mean, we'd go to Carriages probably... cos it's a... a proper Italian
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] that absolutely reeks with garlic and... all the rest of it. Well... that means Jim will pull a face! Or he'll start going
[Barry:] Oh, this big international financier!
[Terri:] Oh! No! Not, I mean, is the, when it comes down to food... wi he's a traditionalist. So we've always got to find somewhere to eat that's
[Barry:] You're gonna be pushed getting, you know, roast beef and Yorkshire in Brussels aren't you?
[Terri:] God knows!
[Barry:] Steak and kidney pie!
[Terri:] You're joking! Cos everybody sort of, just try to think, think of in Brussels. Why they go, they go to er... a six course sort of have as much main course as you like. It's a... a... a re a really nice restaurant... but you can pick all your food raw... and they just, there's a chef cooking, and you just get one of these plates, you can have as many helpings as you want, they serve you a cold starter and a hot starter... but there's... a buffet that's about... half the size of our club... and one side of it it's all... fish on a wet fish slab, and steak, and veal, and chicken and... so there's every sort of meat you can think of, and you can pick a wooden platter full of it, so you go and give it the chef with this number that they give you... and then they come serve you with whatever you want. And you can have as many helpings of whatever you want. And the salad stuff... and fresh fruit and all that sort of thing, takes... about the full length of our bar up... you know, you, you couldn't think of a salad that isn't there. But you can't, and there's, then there's loads of hot veg.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] There's no vegetables you can't mention. I think it's about twenty quid a head, but you can actually have as many meals as you want, or as many puddings as you want.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] It's... it really is... really very, very good. The Labour Party came to... to use that quite a lot. Because... they've got... big seating areas as well, where they put, sort of eight tables together and all your party can sit together.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] When we were there... Stan was with us and he'd... been a few times to Brussels... to with the Labour Party and, and he said oh it's great! Because... usually you go off to a restaurant and if there's twenty of you... you can't sit together can you?
[Barry:] No. No.
[Terri:] But, he said, this restaurant makes a particular thing of... seating big parties. It was a brilliant restaurant! Really... really... nice. So... you know
[Barry:] Sergio's going to erm... erm... one, some Cubs visit to London at er... half term.
[Terri:] Baden Powell House?
[Barry:] Yeah, but the
[Terri:] Mary took it. It's brilliant! Absolutely great!
[Barry:] And er, so she said... she, she wants to take the last couple of days away
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] so she's, her aunty's going to Dublin, so I got these things and they were really cheap actually. There's the train fare from here to Holyhead return, the ferry, transfers to their hotel... the best hotel in Dublin, The Burlington
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] is absolutely stupendous! Two nights bed and breakfast, full Irish breakfast, which means [LAUGHTER] you won't need to eat until the evening []!
[Terri:] You won't eat again. No.
[Barry:] Erm... train, free bus passes round Dublin, includes their bus fares and, and train on those sort of metro type thing
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] they have in Dublin... all for eighty five quid!
[Terri:] Eh?
[Barry:] I know.
[Terri:] Why?
[Barry:] The only problem is, that the hotel that Mary's like, ah! This looks beautiful. Cos I, I, that second hotel, hotel, the only thing, is the Burlington. And I daren't, I'm not gonna tell her, but I, I, I'm trying to say, well, it's a little bit out, it's in a park and er,th th but it looks gorgeous! I said, yeah I know. And it was, where they had their honeymoon.
[Terri:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] So I'm going, oh no! Not for... just er... Siobhan, and sister-in-law, erm... is the head of Town and Travel and, Manchester
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Town and Travel, and she got... the... presidential suite at the Burlington which is like a, you know, I mean, erm, it's absolutely gorgeous! And it was, it was about two hundred pounds a night and got it for ten pounds a night. [LAUGHTER]... That was about, well, ten years ago, when... well... well it's really appropriate. So I think, well... this is a, this is actually on O'Connell Street, that's right in the centre. But I mean, that's actually th th one, one of the, that was the, the, the other ones like four star hotels were on O'Connell Street which actually opens... only seventy seven quid.
[Terri:] I know.
[Barry:] That's including all that travel and
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and... I mean, it's incredible though!
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] And it's something like twenty quid for an extra night if you want to stay, the problem is the Holyhead ferries, they're dreadful! You know
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] one gets you in at seven fifteen which means... you're only really getting one day
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you know, for that price, cos
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] by the time you got in, checked in, got into the hotel, it's gonna be nine o'clock.
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] You've missed the day, and, you've got Saturday then,th... ferry back is ten o'clock on the Mo or whatever day, but the ferry back is at ten o'clock in the morning so you've got to leave at eight o'clock.
[Terri:] So you really need to go the day before.
[Barry:] I mean, really, you've got to book an extra night to be honest.
[Terri:] Mm. That's what I mean, you
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Terri:] there's no point in you going
[Barry:] No.
[Terri:] for that, I mean, all you're doing is going on a ferry
[Barry:] I mean if the fe if the ferries were like... early sort of bo got you in at lunch time
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] then that would be alright. And, and, that you could get say
[Terri:] Yeah. Cos you'd have more in the following day.
[Barry:] get say a late afternoon one back. Cos it's, and it's only about two and half.
[Terri:] Has it got to be on the ferry has it?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. Cos it's part of the, that's why it's so cheap.
[Terri:] Part of the hotel. Yeah.
[Barry:] We need to phone Mayfair.
[Terri:] Oh!. We need to phone Marion.
[Barry:] I'll do it, it's alright.... It's been an awful long time for this part hasn't it?
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean, it's been a month.
[Terri:] Need to send away for it.
[Barry:] Just shows the state of British industry. And the recession.
[Terri:] It's foreign int it?
[Barry:] Oh!... That carpet's gotta be done ain't it? That carpet cleaner's coming.
[Terri:] Don't bother about that, Eileen and I will do it.
[Barry:] Yeah, but we need a new poster though. gave us a poster. Alright?
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] One to come.
[Terri:] No. [whispering] He's only coming cos you []... [phonecall starts] Oh hi! It's Mrs here. Can you just tell, I can ask if my photocopier part's in?... Thanks [phonecall ends].... They erm
[Barry:] We need the sa spare part, when I, I mean we need the sort of anyway, what was
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] happening don't we? And it's, and we also need to see them mend it properly.
[Terri:] I think, we should go for... [whispering] []. Red and blue square, that, you know....
[Barry:] I can't, I can't say.
[Terri:] No. I mean, [whispering] we could the use the industrial [].
[Barry:] I don't know.... And you could do that in the... all the rest area, you could do it in the whole club to be... honest.
[Terri:] I think you should go for the blocks of colour.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] Cos, if you got a room, and you spill on it... it wouldn't matter.
[Barry:] Well, I was saying that yesterday to them. I said.
[Terri:] Right. Oh God!... [phonecall starts] Will he? Cos I'm, I'm getting desperate cos it's getting near the actual time. Righty-ho! Thanks. Speak to you later [phonecall ends]. They're gonna chase it up today, he's got quite a few orders outstanding with this company.
[Barry:] Yeah, cos I mean, I were saying that yesterday, that, that little bit of damaged carpet in there... because it's a carpet
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] you've really gotta replace the whole bloody carpet haven't you?
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] But yo you know, if you, you got the tile situation you just
[Terri:] Mm.
[Barry:] take a tile off... and replace that.
[Terri:] I think you should do the floor
[Barry:] I think we ought to sort of
[Terri:] lino.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Terri:] You know
[Barry:] Er, well the bulk, the main floor... lino, but the two raised areas and stairs in
[Terri:] I think you've got to do it in, and I think you've got to do it in brilliant, er brilliant white.... But... get me
[Barry:] Sa a
[Terri:] shop.
[Barry:] Yeah. Well phone Meg,
[Terri:] Tomorrow afternoon.
[Barry:] Tomorrow afternoon. Say, three o'clock?
[Terri:] Oh yeah, she'll be here for half past one.
[Barry:] We well, yeah. I mean, and you here, I want you here tomorrow... too.
[Terri:] [phonecall starts] Oh hello! It's Mrs at the. Is there a possibility of someone coming and filling the machine tomorrow afternoon?... At three o'clock if possible.... Well we'll be there, we'll be here till four. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Thanks. Bye [phonecall ends].
[Barry:] Which, which number of theirs?
[Terri:] The shop.
[Barry:] Er er... well it just says Lunar Mills or after sa after hours sales office.
[Terri:] Does it not give a name for the shop? Well give me Lunar Mills then?
[Barry:] [door knock] Yep!
[Hugh:] Right.... Second time, I'm gonna have to come back.
[Terri:] ... [phonecall starts] Yes of course I can.
[Hugh:] [cough]
[Barry:] That's it, forty three.
[Hugh:] Bruerne's okay.
[Barry:] Yeah, we got one... actually.
[Terri:] Yeah [phonecall ends].
[Hugh:] You okay for till rolls? Right.
[Barry:] Are we okay for till rolls? Yeah?
[Terri:] Just, I think we are Barry, just have
[Barry:] I haven't
[Terri:] a look.
[Barry:] Yeah. I said to him on erm... su er sa Saturday night. Oh well, he said to me on Saturday he said... do it Thursday... after
[Terri:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I say, so I said, well I'll arrange for a delivery. But, having said that... he's not the most reliable... person in the world.
[Terri:] Have you given Peter your order?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] Oh.... And does he have to be, I mean, are we not gonna be there most of the time?
[Barry:] Yeah. Co yeah we are.
[Terri:] Well, you are.... I'll be back as soon as I can.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean, I can be back for... well I mean, I can actually stay there in fact.
[Terri:] Well, do you want the latest?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] There's, there's Steve, Dave... er, all the men's meeting at the hideaway
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Terri:] is now going to be at the.... We think she should, might stand down gracefully, if she doesn't erm... she, we could refuse to adopt, but she's over there personally. Erm, I'm in two minds about what to do. I could... name names and say... because this is not a party decision, it's
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] Dave, Steve, etcetera, and. Now, who's Dave?... Senior employee of the City Council
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] meeting with... the leader of the Labour group who's... supposedly doing all this to protect his wife. The reason he's married to her... I mean, even. I could, I could really throw the dirt at them... by saying that I'll, you know, if there is a conspiracy... there's, a person here who's been involved in a very iffy part of the budget, who all of a sudden after ten years of... slagging off the town clerk, all of a sudden he's totally on the town clerk's side, together with... Councillor. Why? The only person who's involved in both, allowing the town clerk to take these decisions, without any... interference at all
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] and now conspiring with a senior employee of the council, and of course,. Just not so.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] All of a sudden this erm... worry about this budget heading, is being swept under the carpets and everybody being told is all in been er... cleared up. It's Dave. I'd fire him.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] I could really make this into a very great conspiracy for.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] Apart from which, this meeting that they're supposed to be going to have... is totally out of order anyway. Cos nobody's been sent any notices for it or notified about it. So I mean, I, I could
[Barry:] What the hell are they doing now!
[Terri:] get the full meeting cance I mean, you get Ashdown yesterday, his party rally round him like
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] royalty's going of fashion! You get, I mean, Dave and Steve, alright, they've never been my favourite people... but... all this pious goings-on with Dave, how much he hates the town clerk, and whatever opportunity he could get... he would
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] take.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] First opportunity, real opportunity he gets... he's... doing everything the town clerk wants him to do.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] I just, I, I, honestly Barry, I've got to the stage where I believe in this conspiracy.
[Barry:] Mm.... Well certainly some people want... some answers want to be given on this... budget, er me as well, I mean, he can't just suddenly say
[Terri:] Well
[Barry:] it's all been sorted out, don't worry about it.
[Terri:] Well... I think it will be really stupid.... But I shall say... Dave...
[Barry:] And how long? Well I park
[Terri:] I'll put
[Barry:] er
[Terri:] I'll drop you off. Cos I want to go home and, I've got to home cos I've... I've a stack of paperwork on my table. I'm not gonna be able to set off much later on remember because There's no point in me getting
[Barry:] Nope.
[Terri:] I'll have to go up to shop to get some shopping cos there's... nothing to eat in the house. So I'll have to do something.... Alright Barry?
[Barry:] I just wonder what on earth they're, they're playing at with... ha, cha cha cha cha cha cha. You know, I just don't understand what they're playing but th you know
[Terri:] They
[Barry:] they can only be doing... damage to th to the election chances I mean
[Terri:] Well they
[Barry:] they can't be achieving anything else!
[Terri:] I mean saying things like... a successor has already been identified. I mean... it's just stupid! Cos the general view in Morecambe isn't what they say it is.
[Barry:] Yeah, but it gives the impression there's a split group innit?
[Terri:] Well, you give the impression of a... a faction in the party, now... I could, I could serve this faction quite easily... to... Mike who'd give me a lot of say... if I said, you know,th the... the plot thickens, you know, here's a town
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] hall employee
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] always an opponent of the town clerk... also now... erm... trying to cause problems.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] I mean, that really does make the plot thicken... doesn't it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] I mean, why was Dave being quoted for, what has it got to with Dave? He's not an officer of the constitut he isn't a treasurer, he isn't secretary, he's, he's nothing... as far the constituency's concerned. They, if they want any quotes why don't they go and see chairman, who's Terry?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] I mean, this is them deliberately saying things to their friends... and deliberately stirring it. They, oh! Because, I mean, I know where it's coming from, some of it's coming from Stanley, who, who thinks... if I don't stand down it will damage Ruth's chances. That's not Ruth's own view of it. Well it, and I don't think with the News of the World round their necks they can afford to start playing silly people. Because I'm, you know, if they sa if they keep crossing me the way they are, quite frankly I'm... you know, willing to make remarks myself. Although I don't want to do damaging things, but... I don't see why I should be the person con cons constantly getting the flack from a group of people who were... you know.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] Who are genuinely trying to do damage to the party.... So do you want me to call at the 's now?
[Barry:] Yeah. There's, may as well.... Well, don't know. Well it doesn't really matter, I'll, I'll be... I mean, what, so... I mean there's... except for seeing Anne there's nothing more to do is there?
[Terri:] Well except to start getting that rubbish cleared away.
[Barry:] Well I can't put it away. Don't want a pile in the cellar when carpet delivery comes.
[Terri:] No, but I pu put it next to the lift... and as soon as Hughey comes... put it outside and when I come back I'll take it away.
[Barry:] No you won't cos I'm meeting Ellial at, at half three.
[Terri:] Well I mean, I should be back for half past two. I mean, if you want to just put it in that dustbin place and we'll take it tomorrow.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Terri:] You know, the washing up machine and everything, all, all of that needs cleaning out, all behind the bar needs cleaning. We're giving people a very bad impression if we're opening tonight and... nothing's been cleared up. I think I'll go for it Barry. I'll, I'll go and see where he is, and say, you know... That washing up and everything wants doing before tonight so you, so if you're gonna say... oh, we're open tonight and the place still looks like a pig stye! It ain't gonna give a very good impression.
[Barry:] Well he's not gonna want to, he's not,sha I mean he's... it's not a meeting to look around the place is it really?
[Terri:] Well it is. That's what they're coming for. That's one of the things Richard is coming for, to look round. We'll come and have a good look round, I've never seen it.... I mean, er, you know what that's to do with don't you? The repairs notice. Even if we only got all those old tickets and things into green bags and started cleaning that out it would... it would look as though we're making some... effort. Er, if I can get... the and get him to come in... reasonably soon, you know, I'll ring you and tell you whether he's in. If we could get him to come in reasonably quickly... you could get all that stuff down and bagged up and we could get rid of it couldn't we?
[Barry:] Which which tickets are you talking about?
[Terri:] Well all the old tickets and stuff, I mean, alright
[Barry:] Where? From where?
[Terri:] In, the bottom office.
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Terri:] As well as all the junk that's in the cleaner's room, it all wants getting rid of. I mean, what's happening about these speakers then?... I mean, is this supposed to be happening tonight or
[Barry:] No.
[Terri:] what's
[Barry:] Well it's... it's a trial.... Go in then.
[Terri:] Just stop if there's any mail.
[Barry:] No there's nothing.
[Terri:] Oh.
[Barry:] Okay.
[Terri:] I'll go and get in and get on with
[Barry:] Alright. That's a master key for those.
[Hugh:] What do you want?
[Barry:] Well I put that... blue thing... and it's fallen down.
[Hugh:] This? Over here?
[Barry:] Yeah. And I say, Bernie's room. See if there's any rubbish er... are those, are those worth keeping those?
[Hugh:] Yeah, these are alright. These are
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] a couple of them are okay.... It's a full.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Full set.
[Barry:] Yeah, that's what I thought, there's about three or four towels and few
[Hugh:] Makes it complicated.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] That's no good.
[Barry:] That's no good is it?
[Hugh:] What about these ones? Aren't you gonna put these in it?
[Barry:] The what?
[Hugh:] The... doors over there?
[Barry:] What doors?
[Hugh:] These.
[Barry:] Is that a door?... Yeah, in there as well. We'll stick that... stick that in. Wanna stick that in or not?
[Hugh:] Yeah.... Nothing else?
[Barry:] Well that's... a fire door is it?
[Hugh:] we'll have to... take it off this.
[Barry:] Yes.
[Hugh:] Sorry.... Right, I'll try and get on with fixing that.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Er
[Hugh:] Did you see the match last night?
[Barry:] No, I mean, I saw
[Hugh:] Well I never watched it myself.
[Barry:] You know I didn't watch
[Hugh:] I heard the score, I heard the score after that and I never bloody watched it.
[Barry:] Mm. I, I actually taped it and I was, I was watching a bit this morning before Jean came.
[Hugh:] Two one.
[Barry:] Ah? No, that's a... trestle table.
[Hugh:] Are you leaving that there?
[Barry:] Yeah. Cos I, I wanna take those mikes out and take them.... I mean, that's just a, a brief... using a frame and re-cutting it.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Alright then? [door opening]... Oh! Ha ha ah ah!... There's a lot of rubbish in here int there? Well... stinks of it!
[Hugh:] I suppose... [sniff]
[Barry:] I mean, this is the
[Hugh:] She didn't want that dumped last time.
[Barry:] Didn't she?
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] [sigh]
[Hugh:] Well, well I thought, what the fuck is she supposed to do with them, ah?
[Barry:] Well nothi well we're not anyway because we're not do using those lights any more so
[Hugh:] Well sure, then they can come down then.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, basically you wanna be quite ruthless and just get rid of
[Hugh:] Everything.
[Barry:] everything that's... going to be dumped, and we're not gonna use again.
[Hugh:] Ha ha.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Er... and the same out the bottom office. Erm... just get rid of everything, I mean, how many of these fluorescent tubes are used up?
[Hugh:] They must be all done or they wouldn't be down in the first place would they?
[Barry:] I wouldn't have thought so.... I mean why would any
[Hugh:] Th they have obviously been used.
[Barry:] Yeah. That's right.
[Hugh:] So why are they taken down?
[Barry:] Yeah.... Repair some of the er... the framework. Erm
[Hugh:] I'll go and get a rubbish bin.
[Barry:] Yeah. We got plenty of those.... That's er... had it.... We, have we got a mop behind the bar?
[Hugh:] No. D'ya want me to?
[Barry:] Yeah. Erm... well I would.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yeah. Well we need this bar floor mopped anyway don't we?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] It's sticky so... I'll er, I'll leave it here at the moment.
[Hugh:] Have you found out how much Terry's?
[Barry:] Er, no we got it read yesterday, and, and zeroed up, so Jean got the till roll, I'll have a, I'll... erm
[Hugh:] Eh?
[Barry:] I've got to look at it today, I meant to have a look. Er, I'll er... I'll do that... later on.... Right, what wha what we're doing, we've got erm
[Hugh:] Do you want rid of these then, yeah?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] You what?
[Barry:] We're gonna have to walk some of this down aren't we?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Erm
[Hugh:] What about the cellar? Do you wanna tidy that out, or are you just gonna leave the rubbish in it?
[Barry:] Well we're not, taken all the rubbish.
[Hugh:] Have you?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. There's just that lot we sent down now, and er
[Hugh:] Where did that go?
[Barry:] Er... we took it er
[Hugh:] What about this one?
[Barry:] Monday, Monday or Tuesday. Monday. What are they? Oh! They're over there.
[Hugh:] That looks quite useful that.
[Barry:] I'll move that one... we're gonna
[Hugh:] Ooh!
[Barry:] we're gonna... Americanize... the club.
[Hugh:] How [LAUGHTER] d'ya mean, Americanize it []?
[Barry:] I'm gonna... turn it into a ma... an er American theme, like, you know a... Harley Davidson bits of bike on th th on the walls and... guitars and
[Hugh:] Why are they, are they putting some money up
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] to do that?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] How much?
[Barry:] About fifteen grand at the moment
[Hugh:] Phew!
[Barry:] from one brewery.
[Hugh:] As much as that?
[Barry:] Well,no non, unsecured loan written off against barrelage. But, but
[Hugh:] Jesus!
[Barry:] what we've, what we've done is the said job where, where
[Hugh:] Who's doing that?
[Barry:] Erm... Whitbreads. Erm
[Hugh:] Mind you, it's not a lot of money for Whitbread.
[Barry:] Well, yeah, from Whitbread. No that's right. I'll go into Wilsons for another fifteen. And put Budweiser on draught. Boddingtons.
[Hugh:] No,Wilso Wilsons do bitter don't they?
[Barry:] Yeah. Boddingtons... they do.
[Hugh:] Whitbread.
[Barry:] Oh! Wilsons do
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] bitter, yeah. Erm
[Hugh:] We've had this before.
[Barry:] Wilsons, Samuel, Sam Smith's... erm it's, it's... th you know, it's... they've all brought each other up now so they can virtually get anything.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] But I'm, I'm re I'm, what I'm after is Budweiser on draught more than anything else. I'm gonna have Budweiser, J D... you know, go
[Hugh:] Mm. American stuff.
[Barry:] through the, yeah, I'm gonna
[Hugh:] Mhm.
[Barry:] the thing is, you see, if we do it an American flavour... I mean, people expect heavy rock music in an
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] American bar don't they?
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean, you expect to be going in and listening to Bon Jovi and, and... Free, and you know... in the background don't you?
[Hugh:] You have.
[Barry:] Yeah. Well I mean
[Hugh:] Put in jukeboxes.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] I mean, you could be up with the fucking couldn't you? For
[Barry:] Well that's, well, well, well, we're thinking of opening
[Hugh:] Just as a pub like.
[Barry:] yeah, we're gonna open as a pub during the summer... erm
[Hugh:] What about all these Barry?
[Barry:] No, we'll keep those for su you never know.
[Hugh:] Yeah, okay. Put them in here?
[Barry:] So we have... and erm... we're gonna open up the top bar, top bar... and ripping up the carpet in the main room, and lino in the main floor... right, in, in sort of
[Hugh:] Which one?
[Barry:] probably blue
[Hugh:] The one?
[Barry:] Yeah. And redoing the stage floor. And I'm... carpeting... I think I'll carpet tile
[Hugh:] Have you had a price on what it's gonna cost to put that down?
[Barry:] Not that much, cos we're getting the lino off Pete you see, and get the discount off to do the, just for the lino
[Hugh:] Oh right! Yeah, course.
[Barry:] and then make it
[Hugh:] Rhona's husband?
[Barry:] Yeah. Ex-husband, yeah. Erm, and having a carpet tile... because we can then do it red, white, and, not white, but red and blue... you know.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And, if you
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] damage a tile, then you're only replacing a tile. And just sort of carpet the two top areas, two raised areas, and have the other, the rest of it as a sort of lino... floor.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] So then, then it, allows to dance as well, and basically... hardly anybody sits in that area until the club's full anyway
[Hugh:] Mm mm.
[Barry:] so that they all go in the. Erm, going to somehow, at the moment we're thinking of... well Jean'll wanna do it, but I'm... I'm thinking of doing some kind of... I mean, we're agreed on what we're gonna do, but it's how we do it, I want some ka er, some kind of grilling around the top, the cocktail bar area, so you can open it as a, as a bar, and it'll have a sort of atmosphere in itself, so we open that as a pub type of thing, you know.
[Hugh:] Oh right! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[Barry:] Leave the big screen on and that and we can put... erm... and get, you know, as I say, if you
[Hugh:] Do you
[Barry:] you get, see if we can get hold of like, I mean you won't be able to get hold of a Wurlitzer because nowadays they're like gold dust, but you might be able to get hold of parts, you see. If you could just get hold of say, the rainbow
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] effect of a Wurli I mean, that's the beauty about it... you, you'll never get hold of a Harley Davidson, but you might get hold of a petrol cap.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] You know, or things
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] like that, you know
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and you just bang those around the place. Er, a few handlebars and whatever else and, but, but... but don't do it like the British bikers, do it like an American... bar, so it can be cleaned and I mean it can look nice and
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] sparkling and fiftiesey, and... lots of... pictures and
[Hugh:] Not the dirty bloody smell and greasy.
[Barry:] No, that's right, yeah. That's right. You see, and then if, if, if, if, if sort of people are, you know, holiday makers come in, and it's an American theme, they expect it.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] As I say, they expect I've got music, it's not gonna come as a shock to them.
[Hugh:] They've got
[Barry:] You know, and it'll, and it'll have a sort of atmosphere I think. And, and it won't cost a lot to do, cos all you do instead of green, you'll paint that red... and you've got the white pick out anyway, and a blue, seated blue carpet.
[Hugh:] I wondered what those fucking!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] No, where am I gonna be able to get rid of this?
[Barry:] I don't know.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] I think we'll have to, I think we've got to keep it cos I think it's part of the fixtures and fittings unfortunately.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] [cough]
[Barry:] And I'm gonna do er, you know, lots of... promotions and stuff... promotions on that
[Hugh:] And then your promotions, yeah?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. We well what I think I'm gonna do is next Thur not this Thursday, we'll just have to live through this Thursday, but next Thursday, erm... I'm gonna get... get Stella back on, and I'm just gonna sell it as cost, whatever it is, sixty P a pint or whatever.
[Hugh:] ?
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean, cos at the end of the day if you've got the, if you've got, if you can get er sixty people
[Hugh:] You'll
[Barry:] two fifty to come in, I don't mind if I'm giving the booze away! And er, as long you got the.
[Hugh:] As long as you're not losing on it. Yeah.
[Barry:] Well it doesn't matter does it? You know... cos that's the only way we're gonna build Thursdays up. No
[Hugh:] That'll be gone then.
[Barry:] Je Jean's... is it? Right. Get rid of it.
[Hugh:] Oh no, maybe not.
[Barry:] Jean's doing tonight.
[Hugh:] I thought it had gone off.
[Barry:] Jean's doing tonight, and I'm doing Friday and Saturday. So er
[Hugh:] She's away int she?
[Barry:] She's away. Yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Er... but, you know, I, I'd, as I say, I think er... and then if we just, if we can just pick up like the odd... I mean, I've, I've had a... long chat with Anne, we've had a long, erm meeting with Anne yesterday about it, and she's gonna start pushing... cos you know, she's really done the Royal upstairs, it's
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] a really beautiful room, but it only holds about forty, fifty people, what she's gonna do is push the weddings, but she's gonna, and say look, you can use this place
[Hugh:] For the reception.
[Barry:] For any, any, anything bigger, you know, you've got
[Hugh:] Well for dancing. Yes. Yes.
[Barry:] you've got forty people, you want somewhere bigger, then fine. Cos er, Mark last week said er, he'd been approached by a wedding to do a disco, he said well I can't it's a Saturday, and then he said well, you know, where are you having the reception, said well we're looking round at the moment.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] Well can't, he said look... have a word, and he said to me, you know, do you mind if we do like eight till eleven o'clock as a wedding party
[Hugh:] Right, yeah. Well
[Barry:] and then we just do the disco afterwards
[Hugh:] Anyone can stay on if they want can't they?
[Barry:] That's right. So we just get them in, we open up our doors at ten o'clock. And I mean, I wanna change the ten o'clock opening, it's bloody silly is that! That's just bloody ridiculous that! I mean, we may as well come in at twenty to ten, and, and have twenty minutes of... you know... because, nine thirty... you know. The only people you get in before nine thirty don't drink anyway do they?
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] Just
[Hugh:] Well, we don't need to come in.
[Barry:] They did last... when did they come in last week?... Is it Thursday they came in?
[Hugh:] Thursday.
[Barry:] Yeah, they came in really early about four of them didn't they?
[Hugh:] Oh! We thought they were, yeah, and they fucking bought one drink between them!
[Barry:] Yeah. [LAUGHTER] That's right, yeah []. That's right.
[Hugh:] Right. Well you won't want these?
[Barry:] Er, no I'll leave them. Leave that, but er
[Hugh:] Well,.
[Barry:] What?
[Hugh:] Mhm.... Right, I'll leave this. Should be alright there shouldn't it?
[Barry:] Yeah, well you'll have to leave it anyway. It's the wrong size actually.
[Hugh:] Will I just... dump this whole lot
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] ?
[Barry:] Yeah. Then, and then you can... shall I get a... oh that's the other thing, I'm gonna get the toilets redone. I'm getting the toilets
[Hugh:] I don't know if we can dump this here.
[Barry:] What are they? Oh, those.
[Hugh:] One of them things for the plant or for the
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh. What I'm gonna do is get the toilets, I'm gonna get the toilets, the gents toilets, all the urinals ripped out and getting it troughed all the way around
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] that L though... and that's why
[Hugh:] But before I got, I er, I suggested that fucking years ago!
[Barry:] I know. We well we did, we looked at it when we first opened but it was like another grand to do that.
[Hugh:] Is it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Is that what it's gonna cost?
[Barry:] Nine hundred quid to... just, just for the troughing.
[Hugh:] Well, so you gotta be fucking right, you, you must be paying nine hundred pound out
[Barry:] No.
[Hugh:] every fucking three months
[Barry:] That's right.
[Hugh:] and all!
[Barry:] That's right. Well you pa yeah you certainly pay nine hundred pound a year out anyway, damage to the toilet seat and so... you know, that'll pay itself back in a year and, you know. And also, it's just the hassle....
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And there's, er, I mean it was... showing somebody round the other day and we were talking about it and, and erm... they're saying, yeah I mean, you've got seven urinals there, so let's say you have a busy night, you're full, I mean... that's when damage gets done when people
[Hugh:] Mhm.
[Barry:] are sat around waiting
[Hugh:] Mm. Mm.
[Barry:] you know, and they're and sat on sinks and whatever else, so... you know, you could, you could get twenty guys on that urinal that you can get for seven. Erm... well I'm obviously going on... yeah, let's just... I was saying just dump it all. And er... ah these. Right, I've just gotta phone Alan upstairs so
[Hugh:] Okay.
[Barry:] a couple of things. He's... looking at doing a me he's doing a menu of stuff for us so er... will that go in, that'll go in the lift won't it?
[Hugh:] Maybe. Yeah it would.
[Barry:] Yeah it will.... Poor old Ossie Ardilles, eh?
[Hugh:] Mm?
[Barry:] Poor old Ossie Ardilles!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Bloody great innit? You know, I mean
[Hugh:] A vote of confidence and gone
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] the next fucking day!
[Barry:] I know. I mean you'd really, you really need that don't you?
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Hey! It's getting a bit wild in Belfast.
[Hugh:] Well that's what this, I know, it's getting a bit, Jesus! That's
[Barry:] A bit wild in Belfast innit?
[Hugh:] as well innit?
[Barry:] Yeah. Well the last three days innit? I mean it's just
[Hugh:] if you're lucky.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Ah, like okay, and I suppose Sinn Fein is fair fucking game like, you know... but the, not fucking innocent! Jesus! When they and er, and there's the U B S that always do that kind of thing.
[Barry:] I know.
[Hugh:] Like, er the I R A, they're mucking about with it, but it's us they usually fucking like it's... it's not just because of promises either, you know, not generally.
[Barry:] No. Well no, I mean,a... tha even tha that one the other day with the eight workers I mean it
[Hugh:] Yeah but they were we like they shot Catholics
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] as well!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] That's right []. Yeah I know.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean they don't ask your religion when they go
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] into action do they?
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] But er... I mean, it must be wild.
[Hugh:] It's completely out of hand!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Completely now.
[Barry:] I know.
[Hugh:] It's fucking
[Barry:] Hey! They're opening and Belfast ferry again. Passenger.
[Hugh:] When?
[Barry:] This summer.
[Hugh:] Ah! You're joking?
[Barry:] This summer.
[Hugh:] No. I'll be fucking back and forward [LAUGHTER] every couple of days []!
[Barry:] It's er... it's a long one
[Hugh:] What are they gonna be charging?
[Barry:] sa I don't know. I I'm
[Hugh:] It's an eight hour crossing, I know that.
[Barry:] Ten hours, they've got it averaged at ten hours.
[Hugh:] Oh! Fucking hell!
[Barry:] It's a long time. It's two o'clock sailing so you get in at midnight.
[Hugh:] What is it only? Are they gonna be doing decent ferries
[Barry:] So like
[Hugh:] like? With your tables
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be a proper ferry. It's gonna be a proper passenger car ferry.
[Hugh:] Well didn't, didn't you travel on the er other not so long ago?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[Hugh:] How long was that? How long was the ferry?
[Barry:] That was about eight hours.
[Hugh:] Yeah. But it takes a bit quicker, yeah, yeah.
[Barry:] But it's a car one. Erm... i but surely it's a,i it's an awkward in a sense it's two o it's great, it's alright this end it's two o'clock sailing from here, but I mean that means
[Hugh:] Two in the morning?
[Barry:] No. Two in the afternoon. That means you're getting in
[Hugh:] It used to be midnight.
[Barry:] that means you're getting in at midnight... into
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Belfast, which is
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] a bit of a pain. Well it's not... it really depends on how far away you are.
[Hugh:] Well it used to, it used to be midnight. It used to sail at midnight which was handy for connections when you stay there.
[Barry:] But I mean, you know... but o okay you've got
[Hugh:] But you obviously need someone
[Barry:] another two or three hours on a journey
[Hugh:] You don't wanna be hanging around Belfast do you?
[Barry:] No. Well you've got another two or three hours on the journey, but... having said tha well if you get picked up at the other end it's not too bad. Two or three hours on the journey, but on, having said that you got in time for the train fare, the... and the
[Hugh:] Mm mm.
[Barry:] dis I mean, it's a bloody long time that train innit? Or else if you're driving up to Stranraer it's a, it's a good three and half hours' drive plus your petrol.
[Hugh:] Yeah, you sa you've got enough chopping and fucking changing like, it was fucking nightmare with them kids going to
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Stranraer!
[Barry:] Well that's right.
[Hugh:] Changing the like... up here, changing at Lancaster, changing at Carlisle, then changing at Glasgow.
[Barry:] Well I've never had to do that. I've normally caught a train that's gone thro straight through, there used to wo I don't know whether there still is but there always used to be one. But even so, I mean I took a, like a... two or three year old on it and I mean it is it's a nightmare!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] You know, you can't amuse them at that ta er can you? You know, they wanna... not for that, that... you know, a couple of hours you keep a kid amused by well a
[Hugh:] Ha!
[Barry:] you know after that they
[Hugh:] Ha!
[Barry:] they wanna run around.
[Hugh:] All five of them. Come here!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Come here!
[Barry:] So er... that's it. So I mean you'll... be there won't you?... Got er... I just picked up er Mary once going to Dublin. Ser Sergio's in erm... London at half term... with the Cubs for about four days, I said do you fancy a... sort of... two or three day break, said one of these short breaks?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] She said I'm off to Dublin. So I don't think... really, really... train from Morecambe to Holyhead... return.
[Hugh:] We were gonna, er we were thinking about going up there.
[Barry:] Lancaster, Morecambe to Holyhead return... Holyhead to Dub Dublin, the ferry
[Hugh:] Your ferry. Yeah, you get the
[Barry:] Right. return.
[Hugh:] Centre.
[Barry:] Yeah. Two nights bed and breakfast in... the Burlington, or one of the other four star ones. I mean, they're good quality. We've been in the Burlington years ago and it was like
[Hugh:] Ah! We've been in the Burlington in Dublin, it's gorgeous! Yeah.
[Barry:] like hundred quid a night... ten
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] years ago. Erm... transfer from the ferry to the hotel... and back again... free bus tickets, free rail tickets in, in... Dublin area.
[Hugh:] To travel for the weekend?
[Barry:] Yeah. Right. Eighty seven quid.
[Hugh:] You're joking!
[Barry:] No.
[Hugh:] Oh! Fucking hell!
[Barry:] Good that innit? Cos a full Irish hotel breakfast, you don't need lunch do you?
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] You know.
[Hugh:] You're joking!
[Barry:] No.
[Hugh:] How did you manage that?
[Barry:] Oh no they're, no they're, they're in the brochure.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] brochure.
[Hugh:] Fucking hell! I get, I go for... but I think it was gonna cost about eighty five to travel that way.
[Barry:] Yeah. Very good that.
[Hugh:] Sixty seven last time I went over there.
[Barry:] And if you want to stay an extra day it's about twenty quid extra.
[Hugh:] Fucking brilliant!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Jesus!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] I like that.
[Barry:] So you just... so, to get, actually you do need to stay the extra day cos it, cos th the sailings from Holyhead... and get, yeah
[Hugh:] To make it worth your while. Yeah.
[Barry:] the sailings from Holyhead get you in at seven
[Hugh:] Well even at that price for only hundred and seven pound.
[Barry:] Yeah. That's right. Hundred,hundr hundred and seven quid... for erm... and you get a complete Saturday and Sunday then.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] So you... arrive Friday night at night, seven thirty... so by the time you got your hotel and checked in, da da da, it's nine o'clock at night. Well if you did i if you only did the two nights you'd be co and the sailing is on
[Hugh:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] the sailing's first thing on
[Hugh:] So like, you've only got a day and a half haven't you?
[Barry:] That's right. Well you haven't even got that cos the sailing's ten o'clock... on the Sunday morning.
[Hugh:] That's right. Yeah.
[Barry:] So you've only really got Saturday... so, if you took the extra night, and then you've got a ten o'clock sailing Mon... you're back in Lancaster
[Hugh:] For twenty quid like you
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] can take off that weekend [].
[Barry:] Yeah. Exactly. Not in a, not in a prop you know a... bed and breakfast in a
[Hugh:] Well
[Barry:] four star hotel.
[Hugh:] Four star hotel.
[Barry:] I mean they're good hotels those. Cos as I say, I stayed in the Burlington. I'm trying to talk Mary out of Burlington that's all... cos that's where I had my honeymoon.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] She doesn't... she doesn't I ha you know I, I
[Hugh:] Oh God!
[Barry:] I said well... she said, it looks lovely this.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] I said, well it is, yes, I mean
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] this is a really, this is more central, cos there's one on O'Connell Street... you know, so you're right in the middle then
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] aren't you? I mean the Burlington's a little bit out.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] So then she said
[Hugh:] I'll make her go up there.
[Barry:] go up to the Currane. I'm going, oh God! That's where I got marri married.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... Well I
[Hugh:] Did you?
[Barry:] Yeah. I got married in Newbridge just a... a little village on the Currane.
[Hugh:] Currane.
[Barry:] So er
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Oh God! The things you'll do for a cheap holiday []!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yeah, sure.
[Hugh:] You wrapping these up as well then?
[Barry:] Yep. Good.
[Hugh:] That's unbelievable that...
[Barry:] It is a great price innit?
[Hugh:] But like er
[Barry:] If you,i i they, they got the brochures in A T Mays.
[Hugh:] A T Mays?
[Barry:] Yeah. Er you know
[Hugh:] But anyway, my Dawn, Dawn's mother went down to see a show in London not so long ago, stayed er, stayed two nights in a hotel, it was o it was only like... ninety odd pound for them.
[Barry:] Yeah. That's right. Well er, there's erm
[Hugh:] There's some brilliant short breaks now.
[Barry:] Oh I know. Well, there's, there's er... there's one that Mary's lad took his girlfriend on, er two nights London Hilton and train fare... thirty nine quid.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] London Hilton! No so no I think it, no sorry, sorry, not it's not, it's two days... one night. Sorry, it's one night.
[Hugh:] Well if, you're gonna pay a hundred and fifty a night
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Hugh:] up in them
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] That's right. Oh yeah. I mean, but your train fare alone will cost you, it'll cost you... thirty quid.
[Hugh:] Course. Yeah....
[Barry:] Yeah. You know when we, we, when we first opened from a dead start... right? The first fifty five weeks... which is
[Hugh:] Just over a year.
[Barry:] a year... we did na on the bar did ninety thousand quid.
[Hugh:] Jesus!
[Barry:] The next five months... less than half a year... af the next five months after that right?
[Hugh:] When Jean stopped doing her silly things?
[Barry:] Yeah. Well, yeah, when... whe er er a after that first year the next five months... seventy nine thousand!
[Hugh:] Fucking hell!
[Barry:] In five months. So if we'd have carried on at that
[Hugh:] So you would have like, you would have well doubled that.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean tha th we, it, have been
[Hugh:] Five months you would have equalled.
[Barry:] Well I think we'd have gone to... two hundred thousand.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] But that, at the end of that period was when Volks recalled the loan.
[Hugh:] Aye. And
[Barry:] And
[Hugh:] you were buying seventy off them or something?
[Barry:] Yeah. But er, but when
[Hugh:] You were getting all your orders from them at that time?
[Barry:] Yeah. But when Volks recalled the loan... we sort of give up.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I, we went two day week opening and not publicizing it, everything.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] So if we'd have just carried on the way that was going, I mean, that got it from ninety thousand in... just over a year... to, to seventy nine thousand in five months.
[Hugh:] Jesus! It's amazing!
[Barry:] Know what I mean, like we didn't want
[Hugh:] Surely they've saw the trend?
[Barry:] Well
[Hugh:] You did show them?
[Barry:] I think
[Hugh:] No Barry don't... I don't... you're not fucking doing nothing! Cost you a fortune that stuff.
[Barry:] Yeah. Right.
[Hugh:] That one.
[Barry:] Looks like a motorbike handlebars you can stick it on the wall.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]... What about this milk, milk machine?
[Barry:] No, bung it.... Whoops. Over there.
[Hugh:] Look at all that shit there!
[Barry:] What on earth's that?
[Hugh:] That's one of the shamp er... carpet shampoos.... It's probably when Jean bought it. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Right.
[Hugh:] Well I'll leave it here.
[Barry:] Er
[Hugh:] Probably cost a fortune.
[Barry:] No.
[Hugh:] Wanna dump it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] I mean I'm, yeah... you know, we're just gonna make a fresh start in here, we've zeroed all the tills for last week and everything so... Jim's er, that's locked.
[Hugh:] Don't wanna keep this? No?
[Barry:] Erm
[Hugh:] Nor this one?
[Barry:] Er, yeah alright.
[Hugh:] Well I'll just get
[Barry:] That one.
[Hugh:] I'll find a box for these little
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] bits and pieces here.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Hugh:] That's one or two of Kerry's is it?
[Barry:] Yeah.... They can go as well.... We've got enough mop heads... brush heads rather, we just haven't got any, not... connected to the brushes.... Will that go in the bin? We might as well carry it down.
[Hugh:] Er... I'm sure none of this, this lot
[Barry:] Well no, just make, I'll just make a way through that's all I want. Can you sort of give it a sweep?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Is Anne putting those out?
[Hugh:] Is she what?
[Barry:] Putting those out?
[Hugh:] Yeah, there were some last week, everything's there.
[Barry:] Oh was there?... I was trying to kill the then?
[Hugh:] You did them?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Oh God! I found the keys as well.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] That's what I'm saying []... we've still got that massive box of keys... that goes in there
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] Well I did []
[Barry:] that we had from the day we opened and we've never found them!
[Hugh:] You used to be a whole sack of them!
[Barry:] Yeah. And we've never found where they're fitted.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]... Will we keep this?
[Barry:] Er... may as well.... Mind you, I don't know we got... oh yeah keep it I suppose. Might just miss it.... Want it mopped over in the morning.... What's that?
[Hugh:] What's that for?
[Barry:] What's that?
[Hugh:] Polyester filling.
[Barry:] They're teddy bears by the looks of it. Flame retardant... oh! They're, they're the seats. They're all the seats.
[Hugh:] Mm.... That's
[Barry:] ... probably use that for
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] I think you've destroyed it now haven't you?... What's this bit?... Yeah, if we give this a sweep out and that. And hoo hoover that... little area there where all that, I tipped
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] all that rubbish because it's... I mean the hoover's
[Hugh:] I'll mop, brush it.
[Barry:] knackered anyway. It needs
[Hugh:] I'll brush it with the
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Could just leave tha lay those bowls over there.
[Barry:] For what?
[Hugh:] The sweets.
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, good idea. Probably get, less chance of getting broken out there.... What's happened?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] That, over there. Have we got any screwdrivers around?
[Hugh:] I dunno. Probably. I think there's one on the.
[Barry:] Not much good.... I suppose we could put that door back on again... inside.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Oh wait! I'm gonna fix that, no do I'll, yeah I'll bring some from home cos I wan I wanna nip home for er... an hour... and I'll er... I've just seen Anne.
[Hugh:] What are you doing with these for?
[Barry:] Erm... American stuff for
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] Yeah. I'm gonna do like... chillies and... whatever, you know. She, she can re do them and we just have, microwave them when, as and when.
[Hugh:] Ah.
[Barry:] I need... somebody in to do that.
[Hugh:] The bar staff could do that like.
[Barry:] Ye oh yeah.
[Hugh:] Could they? I think
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] just get them all... you can get them for them.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Have them fucking ready made up and just
[Barry:] Cos
[Hugh:] move them out.
[Barry:] Cos even
[Hugh:] Simple!
[Barry:] even ri I mean rice does really well in a microwave.
[Hugh:] Well you can have them in the freezer. You can freeze rice and then put it straight in the microwave.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Just, just to sprinkle on water on them. Just seal them up... with a... fuck it's called? That cling film stuff.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [sigh]
[Barry:] Right.... I've just snapped the screwdriver!
[Hugh:] I bet you it's an ordinary... screwdriver.
[Barry:] No. No, it's a... my word!
[Hugh:] Don't touch them things... grease on it.
[Barry:] Shit!... Why is it cleaner's rooms always end up like this?
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] Dirtiest room in the whole []
[Barry:] Yeah. See this was, this was the dance floor before
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] er, where it follows this line.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And it was a sort of... funny shaped thing. Yeah. Just to here. And it was like, nothing, so we just extended all this out... and made it into a stage come, a bigger dance floor cos the I don't know why they wa always seem to have this trends that, they have these trends in the seventies and that was, and eighties of having small dance floors
[Alan:] Right tiny dance floors, yeah.
[Barry:] Right, that's... and the disco console was open to the public so the public could just wander in and tap the D J on the... back and tu change his records for him or whatever. It's a... stupid opera so we've fenced that in. Erm... but this is the area up here... Anne, that I was sort of thinking that we could... if we can, some kind of trellis or something... around this raised area here... you could actually open this bit... as the, as a pub on a
[Alan:] With what? Sorry!
[Barry:] as a sort of pub, you know, on a Saturday and Sunday in the season.... Food and that. You know, and with a big screen you can have like... sport or Grandstand or
[Alan:] Right.
[Barry:] ro music videos or whatever you wanna do.... Get satellite in and get M T V on. Mind you, the satellite's gonna cost three hundred quid! Roughly.
[Alan:] This is like cocktail bar bit
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] isn't it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] [cough]
[Barry:] I mean, change all the, paint o pa... paint all the, change all the green to sort of red
[Alan:] Green shouldn't be up anyway.
[Barry:] Yeah. Red, and then you got the white pick out
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and you got the blue seats, so you've got red, white and blue haven't you?
[Alan:] Yeah.... They aren't cheap chairs these either
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] are they?
[Barry:] Oh no. Nothing was cheap, I mean
[Alan:] No I wouldn't have thought it was.
[Barry:] the seats are good, you know, these tables are bloody heavy! And they've done a... you know, they did a good job when they built it. Erm... I mean, you can see what he, what he intended doing... was... the plans were beautiful! This was... gonna be... there's a piano there on that
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] raised area there, so this was like a piano bar
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] there was gonna be a big fountain... in the middle there
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] this wasn't gonna be disco
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] a big fountain in the middle there
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and an orange grow
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] type affect, it was gonna be called the ora this was the blue one, so that was the orange
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] purple, whatever. The bar was a double-sided open
[Alan:] Bar across that other side?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Great!
[Barry:] And the other side
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] which was gonna be a big glassed disco
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] in there, and that was gonna be the disco, and this was the, you know, I mean it was a good idea, I don't know why he pulled out with... went half-cock. Erm... you know.
[Alan:] True.
[Barry:] These are the things we were talking about yesterday... these uprights. I mean they just
[Alan:] Erm
[Barry:] open for
[Alan:] well you could shorten them anyway.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] You could just shorten them And
[Barry:] I mean they're very sort of vandal... easy or whatever. Vandal a fa er vandal friendly... hooligan friendly aren't they?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Whatever! You know, I mean we just got them cheap... erm... lampshades from now on er cos it's not worth it cos th the expensive ones are just getting damaged all the time.
[Alan:] We could shorten them anyway and just put lamps on them.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Whatever. If you don't hang them on Gerry's... thingy anyway.
[Barry:] No you don't. That's right.... See, if you sort of somehow trellis that area, that side in you could actually have this mo more intimate if people just wanted to
[Alan:] Snog!
[Barry:] sit in here. Yeah. Yeah. If you got, you know, if you got a character behind the bar... could er... attract people... by his own force of personality.
[Alan:] I think erm... you could... but you know, really then you think when
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] they come in we can start
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah it is.... Cos I wouldn't lo... I mean I actually don't think you can do, if you're gonna do... people are gonna eat I th I think you're gonna be pushed at... more than about hundred and fifty to two hundred.... You know, depends on how you retail it first but
[Alan:] I think it depends which it, what you
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] do.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Erm
[Barry:] I mean, it depends a as you say, er yeah I mean it does depend that. Cos if, if you, if you, if you wanted to you could always utilize all the dance floor area... tables and things, you know. If you had that kind of function that you... you know
[Alan:] Mm. Makes it difficult to do a big functions though in here with that stage.
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Alan:] You know, to set out
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] you co there's no way
[Barry:] Yeah it does.
[Alan:] you can set out for two hundred.
[Barry:] No. No. What we did do
[Alan:] And so
[Barry:] very well
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] erm... we were we some of the jazz stuff, I mean
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] it... it, it never worked in a sense that it wasn't commercially viable
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] but... things like Kenny Ball and that we'd had
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and we had like the ta... trestle tables in all these alcoves and people came and actually booked a meal
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and, and, you had a meal and sat and watched... the band and everything. It wor i I mean... for those... it did work
[Alan:] Different sort of like
[Barry:] it did work.
[Alan:] Yeah. Just
[Barry:] But
[Alan:] need the
[Barry:] you can see everywhere. And it did
[Alan:] Put hot food
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] up at the back as well there.
[Barry:] Mm. Have you actually... ever seen round this place properly?
[Alan:] Not properly. No I haven't really. Whe whe where do you get to that round, round
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] part?
[Barry:] No, you can't that's one of the... do you wanna sta I'll just go and get the key so you can have a
[Alan:] Yeah, go on.
[Barry:] quick look in there.
[Alan:] I'll go up there.
[Barry:] Get your bearings.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] It actually looks bigger looking that way... than it does when you're up there looking back, I think. Erm... I'm thinking of atmosphere.... But if we... if we carpet the two raised areas in a sort of... attract hardwearing linoey type affect on there cos you can
[Alan:] What about the slipping?
[Barry:] you can dance. Well... you get
[Alan:] The carpet, don't it really up here?
[Barry:] No. Well i it's been down... since it opened so that's
[Alan:] Oh!
[Barry:] gotta be eight or nine years.
[Alan:] Mm! It's done well then.
[Barry:] It's done well.
[Alan:] It was on
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] concrete
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] like. Oh right. So this is just, this is just virtually there, you can't get through that way anywhere?
[Barry:] No you can't, no.
[Alan:] Oh. Right.
[Barry:] Like, so it's sort of self-contained... in one
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] sense.... Er
[Alan:] Right. So it'll have to be that one in there.
[Barry:] And
[Alan:] Oh! So... right.... Right.
[Barry:] When Trish had a... do... in here, her fortieth... she let
[Alan:] A what?
[Barry:] er Trish had her fortieth birthday... here. She laid... there's a tremendous amount of wasted space here... really.
[Alan:] There is!
[Barry:] ... Erm
[Alan:] Ah! This stage across.
[Barry:] Yeah. She laid out in here and people just wandered in off the back end... here.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] But I mean we've always wanted to utilize this but we can't really... we built that wall here... and it's just a... this is the back of the disco. I mean... al it's all, none of it's sort of
[Alan:] Determined wall.
[Barry:] determined walls, I mean, it's no... no wall there at all. I mean we put this up just
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] to break that
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] [sneeze]... because this is the console bar. [cough]
[Alan:] Is that Cola?
[Barry:] It's for... it's for the cellar, yeah.
[Alan:] This is nice and big innit?
[Barry:] Well it's not, I mean
[Alan:] Should think they've had quite a few.
[Barry:] Not bad. Oh yeah! Mm. Obviously you've got a better eye tha than I have, but er
[Alan:] You wa er what you want in here is one tha is tha is what's e what's extraction like? Is it good?
[Barry:] Fine.
[Alan:] You want a chair for over here for doing
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] American stuff.
[Barry:] Yeah, you do, yeah.
[Alan:] Do... kebabs and everything.
[Barry:] Yeah. We've got erm... somewhere, a pizza oven.
[Alan:] Oh! You, have you got a
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] pizza oven?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Right. So that's alright. I've enough afternoons. [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Well, you won't need to do that now. It's somewhere anyway, we've got
[Alan:] Jesus wept!
[Barry:] pizza oven.
[Alan:] What is it?
[Barry:] Ice making machine.
[Alan:] What's that, a dishwasher?
[Barry:] Glass washer, yeah.
[Alan:] Glass washer, I meant.
[Barry:] We've got er
[Alan:] Have you got one behind bar?
[Barry:] No. There's not.
[Alan:] There int one behind the bar?
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] Oh out in garden. Oh right! I see.
[Barry:] So basically they've gotta just tray it up
[Alan:] What you want is
[Barry:] tray it up here and then
[Alan:] yeah, here and then
[Barry:] bang it straight in. Erm
[Alan:] Why's your bar so high? I can't reach your pump....
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Have you?
[Barry:] We like to keep the floor nice and sticky so the staff can't run away!
[Alan:] Oh I see.
[Barry:] Once they're behind here they're stuck all night.
[Alan:] Think you got some cleaning, you just want... that back in.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] You know what I mean, it's got....... And all that up there. Mm! Now then, so you'd... carpet them two
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] and then... summat... washed
[Barry:] Well you see, hardly anybody ever sa... they don't really sit in this area, all they do is er, I mean, they only sit
[Alan:] Around the bar.
[Barry:] right at the end of the, you know
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] when it's full... they'll sit on those two tables.
[Alan:] You were going to clear that area anyway, don't they?
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean, everybody round here just stands... or sits on those bar stools.
[Alan:] Mm.... Yeah.
[Barry:] When people first come in they go for the raised areas and sit down. O
[Alan:] You have to see.
[Barry:] or they stand at the bar. It's, and, and if you actually look on the actual area we're talking about, there's only one, two, three, four, there's only about... half a dozen tables.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Which is, you know, at maximum you're gonna get twenty four people sat around there anyway. So I think, in a way, it's erm... a bit wasted carpeting it all. Cos it's a big area
[Alan:] I do.
[Barry:] to carpet.
[Alan:] One, two, three
[Barry:] I mean... the quotes we had ranged from sort of
[Alan:] Well you,wo did you look to change the carpet
[Barry:] eighteen to twenty seven.
[Alan:] ... because of the name on it?
[Barry:] Well... yeah, and
[Alan:] You are?
[Barry:] and it's getting past it to be honest. I mean, these metal strips are down there for the public entertainment license, they weren't gonna give us it because the carpet was lifting.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] So... I mean, not, weren't gonna give us it, but we had to do it for
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you know, at the time.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And you can see like... like there... can you see straight in front of you there's a worn patch on the carpet, but there's er been a li a bit of a leak at some stage.
[Alan:] Oh right, I see.
[Barry:] There's one there. I mean
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] if you've got it carpeted, once you got that you, you're... you're stuck aren't you? You know
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you've either got... I mean, we've either gotta put a [LAUGHTER] table on top of it or []
[Alan:] Yeah, that's it, or sit on there or get
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] somebody to stand with it
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] you know. Yes.
[Barry:] Erm... or replace the whole damn carpet. I mean the carpet must have cost a fortune...!
[Alan:] Bloody hell! It must, it must have been absolute... arm and a leg.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Absolute arm and a leg.... [sighing] Er []
[Barry:] But it... it's not a bad size room in the sense that
[Alan:] No it int, no, it's, it is
[Barry:] in the sense that you can get three hundred in
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] well we often get four hundred in if you're... you know, I mean, just have the right
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] party... erm
[Alan:] How many you licensed for?
[Barry:] Three hundred.
[Alan:] Three.
[Barry:] But, you can get... but a hundred people can have a decent atmosphere as well.
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] You know, it
[Alan:] Well that, that's good you see
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] cos I mean some places that are fairly big... th the, if you've got hundred in they just, it looks empty don't it?
[Barry:] No that's right. That's right. I mean
[Alan:] Erm
[Barry:] that's the Carlton's problem innit? You know, if it, unless it gets
[Alan:] Ooh! God! Yeah.
[Barry:] unless he's got five hundred in yo yo you feel as if you're in a barn... aircraft hanger.
[Alan:] Well that's right.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] But the sort of chromea and all that sort of lends itself to one of them aircraft things doesn't
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] it? Yeah.
[Barry:] It does. It does, yeah.... So you wouldn't have to spend a fortune on, on, on... I mean it's only a matter of... most of it's a matter of paint, and then hanging a few things up isn't it? Change the atmosphere.
[Alan:] Well er, yeah well it is, but I think... cos one, you've got to look at, oh a bit of a design as well a... while you're at it you might as well just get one or two bits
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] you know
[Barry:] Yeah, yeah. True.
[Alan:] Erm... oh yeah. One, two... it's alright, I'm trying to... think. [LAUGHTER]... if you're gonna... make all this into a dance floor and all the rest of it what's the be a er er er... benefit of having a stage?... If all this is virtually gonna be... it's virtually gonna be dance floor int it really? Mm.
[Barry:] Well there is no benefit.
[Alan:] Cos if you didn't have that it'd make this room more viable... in as much as erm, the point of view of doing... doing catering... and, functions and all the rest of it. You can't, you couldn't... say right we'll do a function for... hundred and fifty and two hundred, and really to do, you've got to be looking to do a, a sit down function for two hundred
[Barry:] Right.
[Alan:] if you, because... it's more than the Headway can do
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] comfortably. And it's more than... er, and you can certainly do a better job than the Carlton so... I mean, you don't call, I mean, you don't call him any... competition at all I don't... but, you've got to look at being able to do functions for two hundred.
[Barry:] Mm. Well two hundred is lost in the Carlton anyway int it?
[Alan:] Well it is, but having, yeah but with their
[Barry:] Are you talking about the Carlton or the Carlton Rooms?
[Alan:] I'm talking about the Carlton.
[Barry:] Right.
[Alan:] Not Chelstons.
[Barry:] Not Chelstons, right.
[Alan:] The Carlton up
[Barry:] Right.
[Alan:] here.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] It, really and truthfully, like the Headway do plenty of functions and the rest of it... but... you can do a better job than Headway.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] No two ways about,wi it... in a min in a. But if you can do, if, if you can do a two hundred thing for sit down... you're gonna be in among the functions.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Definitely. Plus the fact like you sa er like I say, if you're gonna have a dance floor in here there int any benefit about having the raised area is there?
[Barry:] No, that's very true.
[Alan:] And er, and it, it... it makes a lot of difference actually. I would have thought so.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] I mean, cos the bands can still set up can't they?
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Alan:] If they sit up... here
[Barry:] Well you can do what, yeah.
[Alan:] Yeah. But they still sit up there and they can still see them.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] And it's makes it a... it makes it a different space, totally different.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] And like I say, if you're gonna carpet it... er not carpet it, you're gonna cover it... you might as well cover it... totally.
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Well
[Alan:] I wonder what you'd use though?
[Barry:] You ca you're gonna, you're gonna cover it, I mean we've got to re
[Alan:] You've gotta cover that anyway.
[Barry:] we've got to re-cover that
[Alan:] That's what
[Barry:] stage anyway.
[Alan:] So you're not... so all you're
[Barry:] So
[Alan:] doing is taking that out, but
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] surely in a lot of ways it might... makes all the difference Barry.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Makes it... and it makes in a way so that it, it's not a
[Barry:] Well you can create a dance floor area with tables and chairs.
[Alan:] Yeah, course you can.
[Barry:] All you do is just... put them round there.
[Alan:] Just put them round.
[Barry:] I mean that's all we did in the Sugar House
[Alan:] Well that's... terrific!
[Barry:] they've got er actual... flat floors.
[Alan:] Get rid of all that and you have got more table area because... i they can sort of sit in th in the, the
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] gangway
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] you know, so I think, I think that would... it's alright I just keep freezing up.
[Barry:] Do you wanna sit in there rather than
[Alan:] No my, I'm better stood here.
[Barry:] Oh.
[Alan:] No I'm better stood here. But I've got to... I do this you know, I just sit and look.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Oh no, I don't stand a lot.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Well that's... but I've, I've got to er, so I think definitely that wants to come out. Erm... and er
[Barry:] Because, I mean, if you ever got anything you really need a little, you could always bring a little stage in.
[Alan:] Well... Yeah. Staging's no problem is
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] it?
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] You know
[Barry:] I mean
[Alan:] now we need erm... alright we're gonna, we'll keep... these mirrors and everything. Them mirror tiles and everything.
[Barry:] I should think so. They cost us a fortune!
[Alan:] Cos I mean them marked. I nearly ca what they call it? Aren't they?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Called the. Er, it's just that re-seating that... just on that middle one actually, that's bad int it?
[Barry:] Mm. Well I've,yo... you need to redo the, the fixed seating. I mean, some of it o you'll get away with, but generally you re you need to recover it, it's going all over the place... and it
[Alan:] What if you could get something with stars and stripes on?
[Barry:] Mm. Yes, but it's dirt... on it. The trouble with the American red, it's a, it's, it's not a maroon it's a
[Alan:] No, it's
[Barry:] bright pillar box type
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] red innit?
[Alan:] Yes.
[Barry:] You know it's
[Alan:] Oh my God! You don't want to
[Barry:] So if anybody, if anybody spills anything on it or whatever
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] it's gonna show like a.
[Alan:] Yeah. Well that's one's left, cos that one, well it's better than green when it's down isn't it?
[Barry:] Mm. But I thi
[Alan:] I know that sort of creates that atmosphere there but I think erm... sorry! Go on. Get them lamps down, I think. Cos I mean,yo you can easily chop them off and put summat else smaller on can't you with lamps on?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] If you want to create that sort of an atmosphere. Are we... there int a door is there from kitchen to there?
[Barry:] Well it's
[Alan:] There's just a hatch which is alright
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] because then... well that'll just do service from there, but the only trouble about that is that. Anyway, not to worry.
[Barry:] Alright.
[Alan:] Round again then. Nay problem.
[Barry:] I mean, if you've got a function you haven't got that much of bar trade
[Alan:] No, but
[Barry:] in the sense that
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] being busy have you?
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] You know.
[Alan:] No. No. And is erm... yeah I think that'd make all the difference if that comes out. You can soon redo the D J's little er
[Barry:] Oh yeah. No, I think you'd leave the D J's
[Alan:] Oh yeah, but I mean you can soon sort of make it so that it's er
[Barry:] Oh yeah, well... Jean keeps buying
[Alan:] it's extended.
[Barry:] Jean keeps, [LAUGHTER] Jean keeps buying these... this atrocious cheap wallpaper and sticking it everywhere []!
[Alan:] Oh my God!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] Look at that []!
[Alan:] Well yeah, it looks erm... you can put same thing up, but properly.
[Barry:] Oh yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Erm... that's that
[Barry:] Well on that you could do something stars and stripesey all round there couldn't you?
[Alan:] Yeah you could. Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] No problem. Sort of have it all over... [cough]... Who is it's gonna come and see me on Monday? Er... Websters? Wilsons? Woodbinder?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Erm... throwing money about a bit. You don't wanna throw about. Anyway, it, it, it, it, it's just... they're gonna, gonna come and see me, gonna bring me a list of what they have. The
[Barry:] Right.
[Alan:] and all that.
[Barry:] Oh right. Yeah.
[Alan:] Erm... they do erm, I'll tell you what they do. They've got... they do Woodbinder obviously.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] They put the new, new. Woodbinder long neck or summat in bottles.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Wish I could find my glasses she said. Right! Ca er er... Miller Lite,Kor or summat
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Kronenburg wha Sixteen Sixty Four.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Carlsberg... and Carlsb o is it export, that
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] strong stuff? Hoffmeister... Holsten and Holsten Export, er, Michelob tha but, he's gonna bring me a
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Tiger
[Barry:] Right.
[Alan:] beer or summat.
[Barry:] Oh yes, I've heard of that.
[Alan:] Yeah. They do, they
[Barry:] Well Co, Miller and Bud are all... American beer.
[Alan:] Yeah. Well that's what he said. Erm... but they John Smith range as well you see.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Cos that's Miller Lite int it? Erm... so he's coming on, he's coming for his, he's bringing the on Monday. Nice lad him.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Really nice lad. So erm... I went to, where is it you said? Couldn't find one American... cookery book. Well that int true, I could find one and it were twenty seven pounds fifty so I left it was, full of pretty pictures!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Isn't that a lot?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] But I found some barbecue recipes and all that that'd be good.
[Barry:] Yeah, I mean, the other thing on, on American of course, is you can do all that Cajun stuff can't you?
[Alan:] Yeah, that's, that's, yes, that's what I wanna
[Barry:] And New Orleans area, you know.
[Alan:] that's what I thought because I've got erm... I've got a... somewhere, I've got four hundred and some cookery book!
[Barry:] Oh.
[Alan:] I've never been interested in American stuff. Well Cajun stuff and all that I thought, and then there's them... you can do some long kebabs and all that, that's why if we get one of them charcoal grills that you can... pa shoo, shee shoo. You know, not er... all easy. And, and if you're gonna do burgers we'll do... proper burgers, you know... not.... But you can do like, you can do vegetarian burgers and all sorts. So erm... is that paper up there?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Look erm... could do with being, having a doorway across back of here couldn't they? Oh! I don't know though... bu er, opening and shutting doors don't appeal to me... when you.
[Barry:] No. No. True.
[Alan:] Looks nice but
[Barry:] Yeah I mean this looks... almost like a school... but I mean
[Alan:] Well, no, well, I thi but I think some, some... you're better with two shelves really. In, in a way for for quick, quick
[Barry:] Well nowadays, nowadays everybody wants two drinks anyway don't
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] they? I mean it's not like
[Alan:] No, but, but
[Barry:] it used to be a
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] everybody wanted warm
[Alan:] When you think about if you... just... serving two or three hundred to keep opening and shutting bloody cupboard doors, erm, fridge doors, it's no good. Chill's best, I think anyway.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] So erm... so, yeah, right, I've got... oh!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Yeah, I thi yeah I think you're right actually. You need to get rid of that and it's... and create a dance floor
[Alan:] Yeah, create
[Barry:] what, and what I'd do is I'd put a few more spots in
[Alan:] Yes.
[Barry:] no, those spots around
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] there shining on the
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] floor, put some round the back so
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you actually just use
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] see, but I er, I think creative use of spotlights is better... than, than specialized lighting effects, which A, cost a fortune, but B
[Alan:] And you get out of
[Barry:] as soon as you've seen them they're out of date.
[Alan:] Well that's it. That's right.
[Barry:] Cos they're only effective one time, that's the first time you see them.
[Alan:] , yeah.
[Barry:] After that, it's
[Alan:] And we don't want to fork, I mean,
[Barry:] No. No. So erm... I mean you can just use coloured spots it in, I mean, those at the moment are just literally stage spots, all they are i are on, and on dim
[Alan:] Oh right. Yeah.
[Barry:] then you can dim them up or whatever
[Alan:] Yeah, I have them
[Barry:] but they can't flash
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] so what we need is a small unit in there and, and, I mean, it's only... two or three hundred quid... er, and a few erm
[Alan:] Most places where erm, you know they've got them in that, where you go to
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] you can pick stuff up for next to nowt. Just have it ready- made, say you want it for
[Barry:] Yeah. Well, marvellous!
[Alan:] But I think er... er... yeah I think that's definite, take that out, it really, it really would make... the difference to erm
[Barry:] Yeah it would, actually, thinking about it.
[Alan:] Would, it'd make it... it'd make it... well, it'd just transform it, I mean, just no two ways about it, I think. You've got that erm... what time's that chap coming, half past three?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Well I think er... is this, alright if I look in here or
[Barry:] Yeah, course.
[Alan:] I'll just get my erm
[Barry:] Yeah, I mean i it's... keep on walking round till you get familiar with it.
[Alan:] Yeah, well that, I mean, I just, yeah, cos I need
[Barry:] In
[Alan:] to
[Barry:] in there is... staff toilets and your spirit store.
[Alan:] Oh. Yeah, where's thingy?
[Barry:] Food store in here.
[Alan:] Where, where
[Barry:] And it's locked.
[Alan:] yeah, but where's erm
[Barry:] Cellar?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Down below the bottom. Yeah.
[Alan:] Right down, and how, do you have to go outside to get to it? That's a bit silly!
[Barry:] It's a pain in the neck! But it's er
[Alan:] Well that's how it is at the minute innit? So
[Barry:] But, now, Volks actually looked at... erm... buildi putting a lift in and building a lift to it.
[Alan:] Oh! You can't be doing with that.
[Barry:] I mean... but okay, well all it means is, you get twen yo once you start getting busy you get twenty twos not elevens. I mean
[Alan:] And thirty sixes eventually.
[Barry:] And thirty sixes that's right.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] But er... we've got... three stand up freezers... and the
[Alan:] Yeah, you could have loads, there's, there's loads of room if you, could ge if you, if you bring that do it in here
[Barry:] In the chest freezer.
[Alan:] freezer.
[Barry:] Chest... those are, those are freezers. That's
[Alan:] Good spaces.
[Barry:] that's a chest freezer.
[Alan:] Yeah well
[Barry:] So you got three standing, one chest, and a fridge.
[Alan:] Oh there's loads of room in there.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] And then it's er
[Barry:] That's the lift down into the cellar.
[Alan:] I'm not riding down in that!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] So, she could... send, you can send stuff down in that can you?
[Barry:] Yeah, it takes erm... you can get half a dozen crates in... you could get eleven gallon if you wanted.
[Alan:] Oh aye. Cos you'll have to keep your beer down there won't you?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Are there any way I can, oh mind you, you've to get it up anyway haven't you?
[Barry:] Yes.
[Alan:] You see look... lots of people'll write on there... won't they?
[Barry:] Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right.
[Alan:] Better, just, you just, in sa well I don't mean better but it just... makes just the difference now so... what can I say?.
[Barry:] National Scutters. That's er, from a rally.
[Alan:] Oh yeah! Oh right.
[Barry:] Association of Rallies.
[Alan:] Right.... I don't think that looks different like that.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] So... that's so big.
[Barry:] See the... but er, this room... drives me up the wall! I mean I
[Alan:] Go on, tell me again. Is that back of stage?
[Barry:] This is back of the stage.
[Alan:] And back of disco.... Yeah, back o back a... no... it's the D J
[Barry:] This is the back... this is, the D J... is here
[Alan:] Oh right!
[Barry:] Yes. This is just a back wall that is
[Alan:] So really, if we got shot of all that cos really, you want to make another hatch
[Barry:] Give it a bit more room. Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Which then would make
[Barry:] Yeah.... [LAUGHTER] [].
[Alan:] Oh my God! Done it again!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] I thought I'm hearing... yeah, you could make a ra er you can make another hatch.
[Barry:] Yeah, could... but
[Alan:] It should erm
[Barry:] [cough]... Or you can do all these round here.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And you could have this for your preparation area if you want.
[Alan:] Yeah. Cos when... er... side int it? It's just happened to er... you're gonna have to get some what they call it? The... things showing round there [LAUGHTER] them []. You don't want it
[Barry:] I don't smoke.
[Alan:] Oh well... they're not, I mean, they're not put out for
[Barry:] Yeah, it's a big.
[Alan:] Oh!? Oh! Have to be really aren't they?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Right there's a... so I mean... say
[Barry:] I mean at the moment all the food is... is protecting the license cos you've got to do food, food up to two o'clock. You've got to have food available.
[Alan:] Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah.
[Barry:] So I mean, we're just going through the motions at the moment, I mean, quite hone
[Alan:] But you have food?
[Barry:] Yeah. But I mean quite honestly we haven't...
[Alan:] No, that's a, that's, right, but I mean that's... neither here nor there is it?
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] But you see, you've got the potential to do a big opera a bigger operation.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] You see, and er
[Barry:] Well that's where, I mean, you can make money on the food sometimes can't you? And that's, that's where you've got
[Alan:] Make the money, yeah. And this is why takes to get all this down and get... get a location... better than the Carlton for the, I mean, alright, we aren't gonna be able to do the three or four hundred, but then we
[Barry:] No, no.
[Alan:] I can't imagine anything worse than doing a function for three or four... because by the, by the laws of average how the hell are you gonna get it out to them all as it should be?
[Barry:] I mean,de a I, I think he doesn't do a bad job on to be fair
[Alan:] No, he doesn't.
[Barry:] I mean he does the big functions and he doesn't do a bad job
[Alan:] No he doesn't.
[Barry:] he's better than he was a few years ago and
[Alan:] Ah yeah.
[Barry:] and, and
[Alan:] Oh yeah, definitely
[Barry:] he's
[Alan:] yeah. A he's... I think Rob gets a bit ups a bit wound up because there's no
[Barry:] I tell you what amazes me, Mary, he takes, he can take a conference, when they have a big do he puts them there for the, you know for their dinner or whatever they
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] got there. And, he's, she s keeps on at him all the time, he's never taken a photograph of the place... laid out for a big dinner.
[Alan:] [cough]
[Barry:] So she keeps sort of saying... well of course, er, you're taking an organizer round the disco aren't you? You're like, you know, he's stood in the disco and you go to him
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] well it's all laid
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] out.
[Alan:] Well they'd like, I'd like to know
[Barry:] They've gotta imagine it, you ought to have like a... pull
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] a photograph and say oomph!
[Alan:] Say that we want it set up in here with a photograph and that wants to be on the thing outsi
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] in the cape outside.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Erm... but to do, but like I say, if you've got somewhere that could just er... er... you see, cos I mean what, the most we can do is fifty
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] down there.
[Barry:] That's right.
[Alan:] Then er... which is nice,i it... forty's lovely! Forty's absolutely lovely to do. And that, and that's it, but I mean, to do, to have somewhere to do two hundred like this would be absolutely incredible! Could always do small weddings down there and, and then the big do
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] at night up here.... That'd make... that just totally makes it different. I want to just go and have a look in them... you see if you've... well anyway... Well erm, I might get to a certain extent. Cos you're nearly
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] aren't you?
[Barry:] Mm. Again, this is look [knocking on the wall]... it's the same as this. Shit!
[Alan:] Well where's that go?
[Barry:] That's the fire escape down to outside.
[Alan:] Oh so you couldn't you'd have to leave them
[Barry:] No you can't, no you can't, no. But... that's that area we were looking at.... Either side of the disco console. That's the passageway we just walked down. And that's the area you were banging.
[Alan:] Oh that's where I were banging on wall?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Right.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Well that'd be fine... because then it means that you've got either... you've got your back in
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] and out, or whichever way
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] round you
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] want to do it. So that fine, all this comes down. And you can still sort of ma make it elevated up this really nice and
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] whatever. [LAUGHTER]... That's that wallpaper int it?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Alan:] Right, so this is
[Barry:] It's actually you know, if you took the time you make a tremendous, it'd make a tremendous... big area wouldn't it?
[Alan:] Brilliant!
[Barry:] No messing!
[Alan:] Right, depends what the... and quite honestly, if you bring these down... and make them a bit more romantic
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] you know.
[Barry:] God knows what they'll get up to!
[Alan:] Well I a don't give a bugger, me!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] I aren't bothered for them.... Fifteen... there's fifteen there and whatever they need here.... Thirty seven. See you could seat fifty on here.
[Barry:] Yeah. I, I think I ca I, once upon a time I did on the fixed seating for, for... I think you could get about a hundred and twenty round
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] there.
[Alan:] O as it is?
[Barry:] Yeah. As it is.
[Alan:] Yeah. Packed out.... [sighing] Er []
[Barry:] But you see the other thing, the other thing that er that's worth, when you've had the smaller dos, you know
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] sort of even, even like sixty, eighty people... you can lay one of these raised areas out as the big cold buffet area
[Alan:] Oh the buffet, yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] which kills a lot
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] of space in the club.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] The only thing that worries me about taking that out is that you then create a massive... empty space, if you have got
[Alan:] No you don't.
[Barry:] sixty, seventy people you have to then
[Alan:] No you don't because what you do is, you do it down there.
[Barry:] Well
[Alan:] And this is off
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] innit?
[Barry:] Yeah. Then you go back and sit up there.
[Alan:] That's it.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Yeah. You do it down there, and this is erm... if you did it over there it would look absolutely dreadful! You do it down there, you set it up in the middle and you set it up really nice and cosy.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] And then er
[Barry:] We got a lot, we got a, quite a lot of these little blue tables so you could actually
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] surround the dance floors
[Alan:] Oh yes. No, no
[Barry:] but we
[Alan:] messing.
[Barry:] push, you know, push people into the dance floor so they're there anyway.
[Alan:] Yeah, and you make a totally, you make a totally different erm... it's, it... in one sort of minor operation if you like, alright, minor to a
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] certain extent, you've totally transformed it Barry.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] And it, it
[Barry:] That's right.
[Alan:] definitely looks so different. I mean, even if you didn't do anything else.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] But I think erm, you've just got to er, we've just got to er... gerrit sorted. It, it, it int gonna take much sorting... and get the... you know
[Barry:] Mm. We could use that chrome railing around
[Alan:] Well you co
[Barry:] area
[Alan:] yeah you could use that chrome railing elsewhere, we could
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] you know. I don't think you, you've, you've got to try in a way not to shut it off... too much... erm... and yet it,i you've just got to sort of be able to... not shut it off but sort of create different areas
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] within one big area... i i if you can and I think shutting things, I think putting trellising up to, not trellising but... that sort of thing, to a certain extent at the minute... we don't need and... I think... I'll have to come a time er too when it's open as well to get
[Barry:] Now,wha what I was just thinking of
[Alan:] Yes. But it could be just on a Saturday and Sun
[Barry:] is it, if you, if you're using, if you're gonna use it as a pub as well
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] on a Saturday and a Sunday
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] which I think you can do with Amer certainly in the summer season... if you Americanize it and all that and, and just, well I mean, we, we did
[Alan:] You could have a glorious MacDonalds couldn't you?
[Barry:] Yeah. That's right. Then, you know... you wanna start from that and build back out bits
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you know
[Alan:] Definitely
[Barry:] cos I mean if they walked into here on stood on that bar hundred and twenty people
[Alan:] Well actually you don't want them, you want them in here and bar's there.
[Barry:] Well that's right.
[Alan:] And that's the bar they use.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. That's right.
[Alan:] You don't sort of use
[Barry:] No we have that closed and
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and try and sort
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] of shutter it off in some
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] way. I mean maybe
[Alan:] Well I think
[Barry:] maybe even getting... literally shutters rather than those grills. And then you can
[Alan:] No, I think, I think, I think
[Barry:] I tell you what... we had Laura, Jean's daughter had erm... a nurses' dinner here... it was about,the they wanted to come on a, on a disco night but
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] they wanted a meal beforehand
[Alan:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Barry:] so we did like a meal for, I think there was about thirty of them
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and we put them onto that area
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and er... and I said to Laura, ah I know, I'll put so I'll, I'll, I'll put something on the big screen so you know, some videos whatever. I said, ooh! I'll tell you what, I've got Live Aid... all taped on... you know, from years ago
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] so she said oh that'll be good! So I put Live Aid on. Course, I'm sat in the office like this, and they're all sitting down to their lovely fo five course meal and of course great! First couple of bands on, then it stops and shows about quarter of an hour [LAUGHTER] starving kids []!
[Alan:] Oh! I know, yeah.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] That
[Barry:] And I went, I went oh no! [LAUGHTER] I had to leave
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] it off [].
[Alan:] Yeah. So, so that's... like a video thing?
[Barry:] Yeah. Or T V.
[Alan:] [cough]
[Barry:] You can have, you can have normal T V on there
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] or video. Erm
[Alan:] So is that where it comes from up there?
[Barry:] It all comes from, yeah. Yeah. Well it's controlled ba back in there, that's where
[Alan:] Oh right.
[Barry:] it's connected from.
[Alan:] Yeah. Right.
[Barry:] And you can actually see it from everywhere in the club except for that corner there.
[Alan:] What, seen, what have you been to that Liberti is it Liberties by the town church? Have you been in there?
[Barry:] No, I haven't been in there. I mi ha I'll, I'll, you ought to go in.
[Alan:] I'd like to go actually.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah, I must, I must have been, I haven't, no I haven't been. I mean, I've been in there when it... unless he's drastically altered it
[Alan:] [cough]
[Barry:] it only used to hold about a hundred people. It was only licensed for a hundred people.
[Alan:] It's a video thing int it?
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Isn't it?
[Barry:] I don't know what he's done inside, but... yeah I like that.
[Alan:] I has he still got it then or is it,i re oh receiver Steve that got it
[Barry:] I'm not sure.
[Alan:] ain't it?
[Barry:] Yeah. Mi I'm not sure.
[Alan:] And Bob is taking Churchills over this week
[Barry:] That's right.
[Alan:] is he?
[Barry:] Is he? Is it this week? I knew he was getting it.
[Alan:] He'll be ups absolutely, he must be absolutely
[Barry:] No he's just come back from Tunisia on holiday so he'll need it.
[Alan:] that I'd need it, he'll be going in, in with bloody mob if I'd have done it.
[Barry:] Stupid he is!
[Alan:] What did Fred talk him into all this for the blame won't he? Talking him into... there's not,no they don't... got to be doing meals or owt upstairs.
[Barry:] No.
[Alan:] Mind you, then maybe that comes with time of year, mind you, I'm not doing any either. So
[Barry:] Having said that I, you know, I mean,i i i... exc i if he's not gonna do that
[Alan:] Well even if he
[Barry:] or even if he, even if he is doing that... he's not gonna, he's not gonna
[Alan:] I mean, cos you've gotta do it better than him.
[Barry:] do it very well. Erm
[Alan:] But I think if, if same as er
[Barry:] Carlton is far too big for the Abbey! I mean, like our cricket club dinner, I mean... we have... it's usually between sort of eighty, and a hundred and twenty people, but
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean... we must, they must spend twenty quid a head at the bar
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] at least.
[Alan:] We could get them here nicely.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Be absolutely.
[Barry:] But we, but we go to the Carlton, well so
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] I've been to. I mean, we've been all round but the last three years we've stayed at Carlton
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] I said, he's done a pretty good job.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] But there's no reason why you don't do... you know
[Alan:] But I, I tell you, really, you'd, you'd... and something different because I mean like you go to the Headway and it's just the same
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] the beer's bloody awful!
[Barry:] Well the other thing that's really good is, cos you've all got that set up cos it is a disco
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you don't have to upset people
[Alan:] Charge it i
[Barry:] and
[Alan:] No!
[Barry:] bring gear in while they're eating and be setting
[Alan:] No, no, no, no, no.
[Barry:] up and
[Alan:] No, no messing about, no.
[Barry:] testing the equipment and all that sort of stuff.
[Alan:] No, no, no. No you see it's all there. I think
[Barry:] The D J
[Alan:] that's
[Barry:] plays background music while you're eating
[Alan:] While you're eating.
[Barry:] and then... winds it up when you
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] when you want, you know.
[Alan:] When you want, yeah. Mm.... Yeah. It makes... makes it... you know... and then we jus you just... ah, have, we'll just have, I mean ceiling's right in blue, so I mean
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] you know. What sort of paint is it that?
[Barry:] Well these damn, these bloody tiles cost a fortune! They say just... I mean we,yo th there's bits and pieces of like... you know
[Alan:] Yeah, I mean
[Barry:] like you have to redo some of tiles but a lot of them.
[Alan:] [yawning] Er, excuse me []! Ooh! Pardon me.
[Barry:] And even things like the cocktail side... I mean, although you never use it, it's a bit of a joke, I mean it actually fits into American bit dunnit?
[Alan:] Ah yeah, it's Americanified, yeah, course it, well you can make co you could make cocktails
[Barry:] Oh I know you could, yeah.
[Alan:] without no messing couldn't you? Not expensive ones either.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Yeah, could have one of these. Manhattan Transfers are nice though. That, I remembered what they call that place at Whitecross, they call Damn Yankee. I'm going to erm
[Barry:] Whitecross?
[Alan:] At... Guiseley.
[Barry:] Oh!
[Alan:] I'm gonna, next door to our Ramsden's Fish and Chip shop.
[Barry:] Oh, oh is it?
[Alan:] Well what I'm gonna do is, I'm go
[Barry:] He's opened one in London at Heathrow Airport.
[Alan:] Yeah. There's one in Blackpool now.
[Barry:] Is there?
[Alan:] They used to be absolutely beautiful there but they're crap now!
[Barry:] Well that's
[Alan:] or whatever it is.
[Barry:] That's the problem innit? I mean, one,yo yo... be... you get good because of the reputation of doing something and, and the one person
[Alan:] And, and one person doing it, yeah.
[Barry:] doing it and then... because you're good everybody comes and... you cease to do it, you're upstairs doing the books instead
[Alan:] Mm. No, not me
[Barry:] and you employ staff.
[Alan:] sunshine! I
[Barry:] Ah
[Alan:] don't do books.
[Barry:] No, but you know what I mean, I mean you get
[Alan:] Rob does the books.
[Barry:] pulled away from the
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] actual
[Alan:] Yes.
[Barry:] what you're good at
[Alan:] Yes.
[Barry:] onto other staff.
[Alan:] And it's very difficult to get other people to do it like you want it.
[Barry:] Oh yeah. That's right.
[Alan:] So if we got erm... yeah, so, yeah that I'll, I'll erm... I'll get Brenda to go get me a rec erm, a menu and send me it.... Cos more you get it's easier to
[Barry:] Is it?
[Hugh:] Bloody hell it's cold!
[Barry:] I know. Yeah.
[Alan:] Get in erm
[Barry:] Hugh do you know Anne? Anne
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Hughey.
[Alan:] Yeah, we've met, we, we meet on a Friday night love don't we?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] When there's only me in company that's sober.
[Hugh:] Yeah, she comes, she comes up, yeah. Yeah. Wha what?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]... No, er customers Friday, I didn't mean er
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Anne's just saying we erm... ought to pull that whole sta dance floor out... and have it all flat floored.
[Hugh:] Flat. Yeah.
[Barry:] And you could then do something that's
[Hugh:] That's more American anyway.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] And, I mean you can create a dance floor by the tables and just lighting round it. I mean that's all it, as I say, I don't know why I didn't think of it cos in the she well I do know why I didn't think of
[Alan:] Why don't we make that like a rebel fort?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] That would be... that
[Barry:] Like the Alamo you mean?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] The thing blows out of it?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Arrows stuck in it!... Are we erm
[Alan:] Oh no not at all.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] No, that isn't what I, no, no, no
[Barry:] No, no. Yeah I know. But as I say, if you took that out you create a massive empty space then.
[Alan:] Yeah, well i it makes it, it
[Barry:] then you can
[Alan:] makes it so that you can, you see the other thing... what's your name? Hughey again?
[Hugh:] Hugh, Hugh, yeah.
[Alan:] Oh right. Well we were just thinking about functions you see
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Alan:] well as it is now you, you know, you really don't wanna be half of them up there and half of them down here... on a table. And you could get so many in... on the thing.
[Hugh:] I think you have, I, I sort of.
[Barry:] And then just... lino the whole floor.
[Hugh:] Cos, well the floor can be a disco anyway, like, you know. It's not a disco, disco, you know what I mean? You know
[Barry:] No. No.
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] No. I mean lin
[Alan:] Yeah, something
[Barry:] I me
[Alan:] nearly
[Barry:] for the sake of, for the sake of a few bands that we do, I mean most of the bands on the local level... are used to playing in pubs so they just had to play on the floor anyway... and the rest of it
[Alan:] Well it's a bloody ego who needs the stage.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] And any, any major names you could always, if you need, if it was that big yo and important
[Alan:] They'd be at the wouldn't they?
[Barry:] No, but
[Alan:] Well that'd be
[Barry:] No but I mean you could get a... a stage in
[Alan:] Pull a stage in.
[Barry:] stage in from across the er... across the way. Just... temporary
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] staging that's put in and cast away.
[Alan:] Well where do you find that? That break and special... tie it at the back of there?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Doesn't make sense but oh I dunno.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] I know []!
[Alan:] I dunno you can't see his head
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] my little sweetie pie! The horrible little int there? [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] [sigh]
[Barry:] Well, you know, once he, once he's... once he's resigned himself to not getting this... back.
[Hugh:] Is there no chance of it?
[Alan:] What, of him getting this back? [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] No. Not now,no not
[Alan:] Pigs can fly can they!
[Barry:] now, not Elliel. Da I mean once he sort of re I mean that's why all the fuss with Jean stopped because that
[Alan:] Yeah, but a thing like
[Hugh:] Was it?
[Alan:] that is, it's just that Mr who really didn't know anything from his and needle and thread was stirring the shit!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Alan:] No, she's been getting enough of that.
[Barry:] But once he's, once he's resigned himself to that, he's then gotta look at that operation next door and he must be losing money hand over fist for the amount of space it is.
[Hugh:] That's right.
[Barry:] He... to take out all these walls out, right the way back
[Alan:] And is it just
[Barry:] and it's as big as this.
[Alan:] And you've got
[Barry:] Back to that wall
[Alan:] Mhm.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] I mean it's a co it's almost a bloody conference centre to be honest!
[Alan:] Mind you, though
[Barry:] You could, you could seat... if you did, sort of classroom seating in there... a, room this size in that, er, you could, you could probably seat six hundred people. Not as many as the Dome. Even, at six hundred.
[Alan:] Not a quarter.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean... it's a Dome and a bit.
[Alan:] I told Angie today that we're gonna extend.
[Barry:] Oh did you?
[Alan:] Yeah. He said he could do them himself because I'm not having. They were gonna charge erm
[Barry:] Mention it.
[Alan:] Oh.
[Hugh:] Well be fucking.
[Barry:] Yeah, well, the tro he sa
[Hugh:] Lights.
[Barry:] It's the lighting isn't it?
[Alan:] So erm
[Hugh:] ... [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] Need to get a whole batch of these... ti
[Alan:] Mm?
[Barry:] we need to get a whole batch of these tiles get them all sorted out.
[Alan:] Who?
[Barry:] These tiles.
[Alan:] Yeah?
[Barry:] Cos they're
[Alan:] That's what
[Barry:] multi
[Alan:] deaf in it
[Barry:] Oh are you?
[Alan:] Yeah I am actually. Ha
[Barry:] Hi
[Alan:] I can't hear you, I can't hear... men usually.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] It's only, it's only screaming women I can hear!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Well we er
[Alan:] No but it's really embarrassing sometimes cos I, I have to look at men cos
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Alan:] when they're talking som I'm sure they think I'm bloody crazy!
[Barry:] And read their lips.
[Alan:] And that I'm in love with him or something!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Yeah. Yeah, no, I can't understand that!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] No just
[Barry:] Erm, no we need, we need to get a whole load of ne er... tiles... cos the whole club wants re-tiling, not re-tiling but... there's a whole... area, areas and that.
[Hugh:] And po and polystyrene
[Barry:] And and, they're the wrong, you know, if you're gonna, if you're gonna redecorate the whole thing you need to erm... you need to, you know.
[Hugh:] Yeah. Well yeah
[Barry:] You don't need
[Alan:] No, what I said.
[Barry:] three diff four different kinds of blue in the roof and things like that.
[Alan:] Well not really. They're awful things to paint aren't they? A do you do them rounds or what,spra can't you spray them?
[Barry:] Hughey does them, I don't know. How do you do them?
[Alan:] How do you do them?
[Hugh:] Just stick the brush on them. [LAUGHTER]... You have
[Alan:] Right.
[Hugh:] to work with what you've got.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Well that's true.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] A man's only as good as the
[Alan:] Yes I know.
[Barry:] tools he's given. Yeah.... Oh yeah, I quite like that idea with them all like that.
[Alan:] What? Yes, definitely.
[Hugh:] I think the punters would appreciate it as well.
[Barry:] Yeah.... [phone rings]... [opening door]... [telephone conversation starts] Hello! Yeah. No, not yet, yeah. Okay.... Oh right.... That's right. Yes it is, three thirty. Okay. It's just a matter of er,i I mean... all we need to do is, is, is sort out a sort of... formal agreement with... Elliel... that, you know, and how, how... the management company or the limited company's going to... sort of manage the place and th then we'll er... got to, you know, we've got two people... who've got a, a very successful business... they're actually drinks' suppliers, Morecambe Bay Wines and Spirits... er, who are gonna come in and have er... they'll sign the cheque for the rent there and then, I mean... it's er... it's a matter of just... th you know, all it is is, is they're saying well, you know... what actually is the formal arrangement? And we're sort of saying, we haven't actually got round to... formalizing it yet. Er... Mm.... Right.... Right. Yes. Yeah. Erm... er, well Jean's got the exact figures, er, she's, she's done it all, she's got it all, all down for, for, for this afternoon. Erm, I don't know, I've written it down. And th on the cherish you and whatever else and th... erm, I mean we've already got a situation where we've got erm... through Peter and David, the other two, I mean we've got erm... erm... two or three breweries who are quite willing to erm... to... give us... quite a substantial amount of money... not as loans, as write-offs against barrelage... erm... which means that we don't have any repayments to make etcetera. So they're effectively... sort of... grants and ye in, in that way. Erm... mm, no, you just play it,yo well, you he... [LAUGHTER]... yes and no, I mean i er... you, you, you were ge you were getting in pra i the equivalent of thirty pound a barrel discount... erm, which is probably as much as you could... er could get, er in, in... in a free... free house any, er except that you've got, you know, fifteen, twenty thousand pounds up front as a payment to you.... Erm... the company is... Morecambe Bay Wines and Spirits. Erm... and this is going to sound stupid but I don't know their second names. Peter and David are the two... erm... they're up to yeah. Right. Okay. Erm... it's just... to two of them and er [phonecall ends]
[Alan:] Well that, but your main areas will be gonna be before. So
[Barry:] What?
[Alan:] we're just saying main area's
[Hugh:] You ought to save them wooden type of things for it. You know the
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Hugh:] Should have bought them for.
[Barry:] Ve er, yeah, I mean it's, it's
[Hugh:] Are they expensive though?
[Barry:] expensive, it is very expensive.
[Alan:] Well you could have your dance floor, actual dance floor... whatever, couldn't you? And then something
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Well it's
[Hugh:] You can make it different like and make it sort of still a dance area.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Something like they have at Chapel.
[Alan:] Yeah, what have they got down in there?
[Hugh:] Just the wooden floor.
[Barry:] It's just, just a little, a little sort of parquet
[Hugh:] Small
[Barry:] flooring type of thing.
[Alan:] Oh! That type of floor, yeah.
[Hugh:] And carpet all round it and just a
[Alan:] Oh it's carpet is it round
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] it?
[Barry:] But it's only a tiny... area
[Hugh:] Yeah but
[Barry:] isn't it?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] But as I say, in the Sugar House so we I mean, we've ju we, all we did was, was we... the mass the big central area we just... literally... sort of lino type floor... and carpeted... round the edges
[Alan:] Round the edge.
[Barry:] and into the bar area. And it's a ma I mean you get four hundred people on the dance floor in the Sugar House. Erm
[Alan:] Where is this Sugar House?
[Barry:] It's in erm
[Alan:] In Lancaster?
[Barry:] behind Waring and Gillow.
[Alan:] How do you get to that?
[Hugh:] Say the rest of us didn't know where it was.
[Barry:] Up, up the alleyway by... the Yorkshire, you got Yorkshire House there
[Alan:] Ah! Yes.
[Barry:] Waring and Gillow, and it's up that alleyway there.
[Alan:] Oh is it in there?
[Barry:] It's, it was the architects' department... erm, till they... go... like you know, till they Palatine Hall... erm, it used to be the architects' department. We bought it off the city, well Michelin bought it off the city council and they gazumped us and... erm... but we, we have tables... and chairs onto the dance floor... on other nights and just pull them back when it's clear
[Alan:] Yes.
[Barry:] Saturday night there's gonna
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] be a thousand people in. That's how we used to do it.
[Alan:] Ah yeah.
[Barry:] So er... can they get, yeah, they get eleven, twelve
[Alan:] How many's?
[Barry:] Er... I think they le it's nine hundred
[Hugh:] The
[Barry:] isn't it? Is the like, legal... limit. They've, they put like twelve, thirteen
[Alan:] on a night.
[Barry:] they've put twelve, thirteen hundred in. But, when, when they can... but... you've ju... i... in the Empire if you, if you've... I don't know actually,i before they... before they messed about with all the raised seating and everything, if it had been just left open like the Old Floral Hall, like it was... you'd have got... seventeen
[Alan:] I know.
[Barry:] eighteen hundred in. With a balcony. Erm... I mean as an ol as the Old Floral Hall they must have had
[Alan:] Mm mm.
[Barry:] they must have been putting two thousand in... you know
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] in those days. Yeah. Yeah. Well I mean, they'll all be packed up in the bars upstairs wouldn't they, and... everything
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you know, leaning over the balcony and all that sort of... er
[Alan:] Yeah.... Mm.
[Barry:] But I'd er, I'd... you know the way they've, the way they've got it now I don't, I don't know.
[Alan:] Well
[Barry:] But, you know i I mean actually the other, the other aspect of it Anne if you, if you pull this out... you could be talking about hosting small conferences and that
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] couldn't you?
[Alan:] Definitely.
[Barry:] Cos if you're looking at... a two hundred capacity conference for er
[Alan:] Yeah. Easy-peasy! No messing! Ma that, that just makes the total... picture just different altogether. So right... so that's that little job
[Barry:] You
[Alan:] sorted out.
[Barry:] probably need to
[Alan:] I'm
[Barry:] get
[Alan:] I'm gonna play with that and see what
[Barry:] probably need to get Ken's per
[Alan:] we can do with it then.
[Barry:] probably need to get Ken's permission!
[Alan:] Who?
[Barry:] Mr.
[Alan:] Ken's permission? What for?
[Barry:] Structural alterations.
[Hugh:] What for?
[Alan:] For that?
[Barry:] Mind you,act actually
[Alan:] I've gotta be catched I won't actually do it I'll just come in run a mo just give it complete customers and... and help
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] they'll say well you, it's awful, you're awfully sorry but it's. On what?
[Barry:] Actually th from the original... structure, I mean, it's, it's, it was half that size anyway.
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] Well as I say, you can see where it was, it's that sort of diamond
[Alan:] Well why do you es
[Barry:] I think.
[Alan:] did you have get his, well it int structural is it?
[Barry:] No. I wouldn't
[Alan:] No, it int because... structural's walls. Oh that's... get his permission for nothing!
[Barry:] Well he won't know... I don't... I don't think he dare show
[Hugh:] At the moment.
[Barry:] his face at moment, he hadn't been anywhere round to, since... all this happened before Christmas.
[Alan:] Obnoxious little man int he? He's like a ferret!
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Alan:] I get on very well with him though.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] So what is... so there's nothing to the other side, just apart from this big room?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] But, and a bar.
[Barry:] What, and that in there?
[Alan:] Yeah. So that's that one?
[Barry:] There's a massive room with twelve snooker, twelve snooker tables
[Hugh:] Well, yeah, well, well
[Barry:] in.
[Hugh:] er just... maybe the size of this.
[Alan:] Right.
[Barry:] It is the size
[Hugh:] Well, no
[Barry:] of this.
[Hugh:] It is exactly
[Alan:] Well I mean
[Hugh:] eh?
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] It is the size of this, yeah. Yeah.
[Alan:] Right. So we'll want
[Barry:] And what they've, what they've got, they've got the bar in a far bottom corner
[Hugh:] You used to go in to play snooker didn't you?
[Barry:] I did.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Disco nights. When we have a... when we were talking to them and we had the door through... and my snooker got really good.
[Alan:] Mm. We did, we had a snooker table at home and my snooker will never get good.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] I used to end up hitting them like a golf ball!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Used to go bloody berserk! Good with iron and everything you know.
[Barry:] Oh.
[Alan:] Them were the days.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] I hated it!
[Barry:] What? When you were at?
[Hugh:] Do you fancy a quick game then? [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] No.
[Hugh:] .
[Barry:] Yeah. Might do in a minute.
[Alan:] Well I shall go because if that... fella's been from, if that fella said I didn't have a job I'll be jumping up and down like a what d'ya call it!
[Barry:] Oh alright. Okay.
[Alan:] I'm, I'm going to erm... we'll make that into something American. But I don't know what. Have to think of that. We do we will, I'm just saying we do wanna get into cocktail and
[Hugh:] Ranch House. [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Oh. Eh?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Said a Ranch House [] from.
[Alan:] Sod off!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]... No we don't wanna be looking at
[Hugh:] You see some fucking morons we get in!
[Alan:] No, we wanna be
[Barry:] That's who we need to advise us don't we? We need Geoffrey along to advise us.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Geoffrey, how would you
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] how do you Americanize this?
[Hugh:] Bastards stealing our customers last night!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []. Yeah. Criticizing a scooterist
[Hugh:] Where's my customers?
[Barry:] Criticizing a scooterist don't want them in town and then put functions on and cheap beer for them... when they come.
[Alan:] Well they do that don't they? I mean, they're all... you know.
[Hugh:] Supposed to be four hundred in the Ranch House last night. On the ground like.
[Barry:] We need lo we needs lots of... piles of steaming horse manure and things don't we around and
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] stuff like that?
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Gotta get it right.
[Alan:] No! That's for Frontier Land. We are
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] we are erm
[Hugh:] Thought it was hardly.
[Alan:] We're Boston.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah definite []. That's right.
[Alan:] We're near Boston.
[Barry:] Yeah. Cheers.
[Alan:] Yeah. Yeah!
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Why? Does it
[Hugh:] Punters wouldn't go, go for it.
[Alan:] No. No I don't, no, no, no, no, no, but I know it wants to be... erm
[Barry:] Eh! Have you seen the new rules on er... bar staff?
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] They're not allowed to smoke.
[Hugh:] Oh yeah.
[Alan:] No, you're not.
[Barry:] No, no, no.
[Alan:] No.
[Hugh:] Full stop?
[Barry:] Anywhere.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Not, you can't even wander outside
[Hugh:] So I go doo doo doo doo doo.
[Barry:] That's right. And, you've gotta wear gloves... to use the till.
[Alan:] You what?
[Barry:] You can't ha you can't handle money... and
[Hugh:] And serve
[Barry:] pull pints.
[Alan:] Who says that?
[Barry:] This is Health and Environment, it's a new...
[Hugh:] When's it in operation.
[Barry:] Er er, I don't know actually. I've got it in Disco Club Mirror, it's the front page out the
[Alan:] Oh I couldn't have that!
[Barry:] Grantham. They're treating ba
[Alan:] Got to have a look at this.
[Barry:] they're treating alcohol as food.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] So all the hygiene things on food... apply to alcohol.
[Alan:] Oh I know that.
[Barry:] So you can't handle, you can't handle
[Alan:] You're gonna have to have somebody else to take the money won't you?
[Hugh:] Fucking cashier.
[Alan:] You'll have to have a cashier.
[Barry:] [whispering] [].
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] You can't do it though. You can't have,yo it'd mean one to serve and one take the money.
[Hugh:] It's fucking ridiculous! Say if you're, if you're really busy at the bar just taking your gloves off and fucking... putting them on.
[Alan:] Oh aye you're gonna do it aren't you! Well what we'll do is we'll do, we'll just have a pump at the side of the till.
[Barry:] Well you...
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] There's punters on the door []!
[Barry:] Yeah, you know like
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] Fucking []!
[Barry:] you know like it is.
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER] Oh no it isn't! [LAUGHTER] You wanna go []!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] Alright then.
[Barry:] Or nuclear license opens
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] No, just ask them if it's effective with your license just, you know, sort of as you come
[Barry:] Mind you, one
[Alan:] from the sale.
[Barry:] Vo Volks... Volks took them
[Hugh:] We're sterilizing the bar with those.
[Barry:] Volks took them into, not Volks, er what they called? Somebody took me to see one of their pubs in Liverpool it was wonderful! Where the shutters are
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] all, just hardboard... like that, with just a little... O like that and you, you, you shout a pint of beer and you pushed your money through and then a beer... [LAUGHTER] ca came out the other side []!
[Alan:] Bet it was... erm
[Barry:] It was rough! [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Alan:] Waste of time though innit?
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] It was a bit of a rough area.
[Hugh:] What type of beer are you getting!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] No, and a pint of sherry!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Yeah, and plastic glasses as well.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]... Oh my
[Barry:] Great!... I mean, the only way you could do that would be... if you had a till at one end and people bought whatever they wanted and were given a voucher and you walked down the other end and exchanged
[Hugh:] Mm.
[Barry:] it for drink. That's the only way you could actually... make that work at all.
[Alan:] Yeah, but just think of how much messing about there is.
[Barry:] Ah! It'd be unbelievable!
[Alan:] I mean it'd be two thi forty we'd be round the bloody bend!
[Barry:] Yeah, but it's somebody sitting in an office innit... deciding this!
[Hugh:] Yeah, but who, who do you... you know why
[Barry:] Sitting in a suit in a nice office saying, wo! This is a good idea. You know... they don't serve behind the bar on a Saturday night.
[Hugh:] They want somebody here from the for half an hour and them not being served first
[Alan:] Here! You know what happens, d'ya know what happens then they'll get people
[Hugh:] like.
[Alan:] Yeah. People will get so antiseptic that they'll not be able to stand any... sort of germs of any sort.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] That's
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Alan:] true that! I mean, you think about all this... I mean... a load of crap when they have larders and all that! Alright, you might have got the odd... but it's all this warming, doing it and then... half leaving it and then
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] warming it up again that does the damage.
[Hugh:] Certainly does. Mm.
[Alan:] So... well I shall wander back with my little book now. I'm er... I'm er, I'm just er
[Barry:] What?
[Alan:] Right. I shall come tomorrow tonight when it's dark.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Right. I'm o ooh!
[Barry:] Actually tomorrow night's not a good id... well
[Hugh:] No, nonsense
[Alan:] Oh is it rave night tomorrow
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] night?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Ah! Rob's coming to look at lights.
[Barry:] Yeah, I mean it's all light and smoke and all the tables and chairs are out and
[Alan:] Can't see a thing.
[Barry:] And you won't be able to see anything.
[Alan:] I know I come on a Friday I were absolutely gobsmacked!
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] You can only see twelve feet er, you'd think the place was empty... in the bar.
[Barry:] Erm... I mean Saturday night would be be better Anne.
[Alan:] Oh Saturday night then. Yeah, well I'll have a wander in Saturday night then. But is that... is that
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Oh. This is definite.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] Bye!
[Barry:] Bye.
[Alan:] You know that I'm not gonna get out of course. Gotta climb up that other end.
[Barry:] There's another... there's a orifice down there.
[Alan:] Right. Why are the doors always... wrote wrong way!
[Barry:] I know. I know. That's er, that's our
[Alan:] That's ours just there, yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah. That's ours as well there.
[Alan:] Oh sorry.
[Barry:] That's ours as well down there.
[Alan:] You get enough for twenty five K hav haven't they?
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] And that's with the chip system obviously.
[Barry:] Yeah.... It's er... cleaner's room, two dressing rooms and toilets down there. Well this is the area that you'll have to do something about is the... if you're gonna knock it into the Winter Gardens this is the area that knocks into the Winter Gardens.
[Alan:] Oh! Does that lead
[Barry:] Well, along that corridor is
[Alan:] Well I, we won't be doing anything nearly spectacular area than this.... It won't open.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Where are all the light switches?
[Barry:] I mean, what, what we initially, this was a cloakroom... this, this area
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] wasn't here,i this
[Alan:] Mm.
[Barry:] was the door and there was a little cloakroom
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] but er, our customers... don't take their jackets off anyway
[Alan:] Oh right. Don't they?
[Barry:] Erm
[Alan:] So you don't need a cloakroom then?
[Barry:] No. But more in, but... what it was we when I was in here, sort of five days a week, nine to five job
[Alan:] Mhm mm.
[Barry:] it was getting depres it was getting oppressive in that little office down there.
[Alan:] Oh! I would have thought, yeah. Awful! You'd get a
[Barry:] So we were gonna move an office up to here with some natural light in it.
[Alan:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Cos there's nothing worse than there being a room with no natural light in, really. I didn't realize it at the time but I think it wants
[Alan:] Eh! No they think it's really bad. Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah. So
[Alan:] It's really bad... not enough light.
[Barry:] It's oppressive.
[Alan:] Right.
[Barry:] Course, the other thing you've gotta invest in is tables and... well you don't need chairs, but tables, I mean... as you can see we've got two hundred of those poly-cotton chairs... in there which is... erm... can be used.
[Alan:] I'll get some tables up with erm
[Barry:] Mm. Tables are quite expensive though.
[Alan:] So many places Barry are going down
[Barry:] Well, true
[Alan:] I tell you.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Alan:] Just keep, just, in fact just keep... well le let's get it sorted out and then we'll just get er... er... cos plenty of storage space and stuff.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Used to have tables and extensions you see
[Barry:] Mm.
[Alan:] Bob makes tables. Bloody hell! I've got extensions, sure.
[Barry:] I tell you what make i trestle tables are so expensive aren't they?
[Alan:] I know!
[Barry:] Incredible price!
[Alan:] You still.
[Barry:] You can't, you can't get either, you know, proper
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] you know, big wooden
[Alan:] I know.
[Barry:] trestle tables you just can't get anywhere.
[Alan:] No.
[Barry:] There's another... wasted area. There's incredible wasted areas in this place!
[Alan:] It's very badly planned you know
[Barry:] Terrible innit?
[Alan:] inside here. It's all corridor and er
[Barry:] Mm. It's all foyers and things.
[Alan:] Wants to be like... Chamber of Horrors!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] As you come down, you know.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Alan:] [LAUGHTER]... Right!
[Barry:] Alright.
[Alan:] I'm off!
[Barry:] Speak to you later.
[Alan:] Right.
[Barry:] Cheers. Bye!
[Alan:] Bye bye.
[Barry:] Great! What is it?
[Hugh:] It's an old ribbon.
[Barry:] I know. What's on it?
[Hugh:] I'll have a look.... Brewing up, yeah, no?
[Barry:] What?
[Hugh:] Brewing up, no?
[Barry:] No. The erm... you know that bottle of bleach in the cellar... was it bleach?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Didn't smell very strong... the top's been off it.
[Hugh:] The top's been, yeah.
[Barry:] I just brought it up with some er, just in case cos we don't, we don't really wanna use that for like these.
[Hugh:] Not really.
[Barry:] Er... I've taken... all the rubbish down except for that long box in
[Hugh:] Do we wanna get any more of the empty cases out today?
[Barry:] Yeah.... About forty quid's worth of empty cases.
[Hugh:] Cor! It's amazing what they're doing with them.
[Barry:] Yeah. I know.... Have you been to put a bet on?
[Hugh:] Yeah. How did you know?
[Barry:] I guessed. [LAUGHTER]... What on one race or
[Hugh:] Mm. Just the one.... What time are they coming at?
[Barry:] Well they said about, what? Who? Elliel?
[Hugh:] Elliel, yeah.
[Barry:] Half past three.
[Hugh:] Has Jean got to be here?
[Barry:] Yeah.... She said sh sh sh... she said she'd be here about half two. She's been to a funeral...
[Hugh:] Who's dead?
[Barry:] I don't know. Some, somebody on the County Council.... He's probably been dead for about two years, they haven't noticed!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] In that case, if this Thursday ge get anything like the other Thursdays we've got enough to last.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]... Is there a book for that like?
[Barry:] Er... Webb, Webb missed the first one... blasted it over the top... and Giggs missed one at the end. They scored all theirs and Giggs had to score his
[Hugh:] Oh yeah.
[Barry:] to make them
[Hugh:] So that they could miss the last one?
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean
[Hugh:] Fucking awful! This fucking stuff they put down.
[Barry:] Well, yeah, but it's the police's fault innit?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] You know, I mean it... it's bloody outrageous that the police can dictate... you know, something F A Cup's been there for
[Hugh:] I know. Bastards!
[Barry:] hundreds of years and... police can dictate the... what you're gonna do.
[Hugh:] Don't be silly!
[Barry:] Yeah. May as well.... So they're a bit sticky. Nearly broke my neck on one, pulling one, one of those crates out.
[Hugh:] Pulling this?
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Hugh:] Yeah, they'll be fucking.
[Barry:] Oh, actually you can smell the bleach now can't you?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Are you gonna do them all?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] May as well.
[Hugh:] Fucking no more cos they'll all be here for four o'clock.
[Barry:] Probably forgotten pi... the line cleaners.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] I did write it down for her in the list. All this thing in the press and on the T V about Kevin Keagan being a folk hero in Newcastle, He
[Hugh:] I know! How
[Barry:] He
[Hugh:] long did he play for them?
[Barry:] he only played there two years! Yeah.
[Hugh:] Two seasons.
[Barry:] Two seasons. I mean, I can't believe that he's... I mean
[Hugh:] Fuck! Ossie's had a hard game like, Swindon
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Hugh:] being promoted and then
[Barry:] I know.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]... somebody taking the fucking
[Barry:] That's awful!
[Hugh:] points off them. What have they... th they ducked three points as it is.
[Barry:] No, they've put them down in third division now.
[Hugh:] Yeah, originally they'd have ducked for three
[Barry:] Yeah, Yeah.
[Hugh:] points and
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] stopped, and then... prefer to go like when they appealed because he'd... knocked them again.
[Barry:] I mean, you know, how long's he, when did he get the job, May or something, last year? I mean he's hardly... you know, he's had
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] half a season, I mean... that's ridiculous!
[Hugh:] And then the vote of confidence, he'll be there.
[Barry:] Oh God!
[Hugh:] How the fuck can he do that?
[Barry:] I know. [LAUGHTER] Every time they do it [], don't they, you know?
[Hugh:] I know.
[Barry:] Yeah. He er... especially when the chairman says he's got every faith in him.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] You know you're gonna a er a telegram the next morning. Outrageous that!
[Hugh:] I wondered when they offered Keagan to do it?
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] I fucking watched the programme on that... Who Who's the Greatest? It was about fucking sportsmen of the week, and it was Keagan and George Best.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Oh I, I remember that, I didn't watch it, I refused to watch it.
[Hugh:] I mean that's actually going in for Keagan!
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] I think fucking Dennis Taylor was on... singing his praises.
[Barry:] Singing whose, Keagan's praises?
[Hugh:] Yeah. I think it was Dennis Taylor, Taylor.
[Barry:] That's a... that was difference yo you end up voting, you end up actually voting who's the nicest human being, not
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] really
[Hugh:] Exactly. That's why it was, cos he's
[Barry:] not the best footballer.
[Hugh:] you know, dedicated to his club and all this
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] stuff.
[Barry:] But I mean, he, he wasn't
[Hugh:] He's a
[Barry:] particularly was he? I mean, he went to Liverpool, Liverpool made him
[Hugh:] That's right. Yeah.
[Barry:] from Scunthorpe... and then, I mean, he, he went after mega bucks in, in erm
[Hugh:] Hamburg.
[Barry:] Hamburg, then... you know,so... being a big fish in a small pond at Southampton... and then
[Hugh:] But
[Barry:] last couple of years a quick... I mean, his contract with Newcastle worth, worth a fortune wasn't it? Cos it was one of those first ones that was sponsored by
[Hugh:] Who was
[Barry:] the
[Hugh:] it?
[Barry:] the brewery
[Hugh:] Was it
[Barry:] wasn't it?
[Hugh:] was it Pools?
[Barry:] No. It was er, erm... wasn't it Newcey brown ale... went and sponsored Newcastle?
[Hugh:] No, no.
[Barry:] But anyway, I mean, they er they ended up, instead of paying the club a sponsorship they ended up paying him, you know, like erm
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] like the car phone company did with
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Ian Botham to go to Worcestershire.
[Hugh:] But he wasn't the fucking greatest, oh hardworking I'd say, he fucking
[Barry:] Oh yeah.
[Hugh:] grafted.
[Barry:] Yeah. That's right. He wasn't a
[Hugh:] He wasn't that.
[Barry:] he wasn't a very skilful player.
[Hugh:] No. He wasn't a natural at all. He worked hard though.
[Barry:] Yeah. He had a, he had a, he had a, a lot, he had a... he was quite nippy... and he had a good scu you know, good goal
[Hugh:] Good goals.
[Barry:] scoring sense
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] sometimes, but I mean... that was all. He was a good player but... I... but I think he's always looked after himself, I mean he's... he's
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] he's probably one of
[Hugh:] Oh yeah.
[Barry:] the richest British footballers.
[Hugh:] He will be.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] I can't think anybody would have more.
[Barry:] No. No. I mean it, it... no, he was one of the first with the shrewd sort of business sense
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and all that.
[Hugh:] Fucking Mick 's making a fortune training at Arsenal!
[Barry:] Is he?
[Hugh:] Doing really well yeah. And Francis, he's doing quite
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] well.
[Barry:] Didn't he used to be in scrap metal is what Francis was
[Hugh:] Toilet rolls.
[Barry:] telling me? Is it? Oh.... Did you see erm... This Is Your Life last night?
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] It was Alan Bleasdale.
[Hugh:] Oh! The
[Barry:] Ah
[Hugh:] ?
[Barry:] Yeah. And they had, they had er... Kenny Dalgleish and Graham Souness, and er
[Hugh:] All the Liverpool, like?
[Barry:] Yeah. And they had er... tt... erm... Reed
[Hugh:] Peter Reed?
[Barry:] Yeah. Cos he used to... Alan Bleasdale used to be Peter Reed's teacher at school and the
[Hugh:] Did he?
[Barry:] Yeah. A and erm... he, he coached the football te
[Hugh:] He would be bunking off! [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] he coached the football team the, the
[Hugh:] What place is that then?
[Barry:] the Kirby Boys and they won the national competition or something or other with the, with them.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] No,th the till man said we have to keep erm... you know the receipt one
[Hugh:] Yeah, but we never put that on do we?
[Barry:] I know. But we need to keep er a, a receipt in it. Because
[Hugh:] And just have it so it's not
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] So th there's a switch inside on, off.
[Hugh:] Yes, yes, I know that.
[Barry:] He said fa... because erm... one of the keys is damaged erm... the bot you know when the, you know the printout
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] when it prints out... the bottom... of like the noughts and, the bottom of the figure is missing, you can read it, it's not important, but it's done because the one, it wo it's punching onto, onto metal... because that paper's not on our till receipt.
[Hugh:] See that thing you had whe when the bar was taken this time was that... just for tax like
[Barry:] No that was, that was our er... that was our accounts for the year.
[Hugh:] Does Volks actually know that, yeah?
[Barry:] Yeah. I think Volks just wanted out of the area to be honest.
[Hugh:] Yeah well
[Barry:] Don't care.
[Hugh:] they're further... further up north aren't they now?
[Barry:] Mm. Well they've got the depot at Rochdale which services up to Blackpool... and this was out on a limb.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Cos,i it... Kendal's done from Newcastle.
[Hugh:] Is it?
[Barry:] Yeah. Up to there
[Hugh:] Oh course! Yeah.
[Barry:] and then... Rochdale up towards Blackpool and we're stuck right in the bloody middle so the er, they were a, like we were one delivery that's all it, and we weren't that big an account, you know even doing... a reasonable trade you're not
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] for one pub.
[Hugh:] Yeah, well they, they, you obviously need two, three that like, to make it worth your while.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] It's getting a bit fucking rank you know! [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] Now d'ya know... how dirty those shelves get? Mind you, the cra crates are fairly dirty aren't they... at times.
[Hugh:] Yeah. That's what does it.... On the bottoms as well.
[Barry:] Yeah, you sometimes get them... some of them look as if there's, I dunno... vinta vintage Newcastle Brown you know... cobwebs and dust on them int there and... spiders' webs on them.... I hope Saturday's as good as last Saturday it was quite a good night that.
[Hugh:] Well I, I, I, I honestly thought the bar should have done, and I'm sure it fucking did you know.
[Barry:] Didn't have enough people in... to do anything else.
[Hugh:] I dunno.
[Barry:] We'd have had, they'd have had to spent about five quid a head.
[Hugh:] Yeah but they were. Like the shorts were absolutely hammered! Like there were them lads... they had fucking four in a glass like and, there was loads of, so many drinks like... I served loads. Vod vodka... Jack Daniels and... some other spirit in it.... I ju I just wanna know how much Terri took, you know.
[Barry:] Yeah. I'll have a look.
[Hugh:] Like, erm, I'm, like I'm not fucking saying to she's, she's... but she's, she just gets fucking absolutely stupid! It's really silly like. Like, and you know that, is it Alis Alison and... somebody? She's always on about Alison like, I'm sure she fucking doesn't charge them for drinks.
[Barry:] Well, which one's Alison?
[Hugh:] She's er, she always comes looking for Terri. She's going with that little monster with the long hair.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Hugh:] Played in the band here once and they
[Barry:] Aha.
[Hugh:] were crap or something. Kevin er, Kevin I think his name is.
[Barry:] She's just though, she's [LAUGHTER] fucking outrageous []! She doesn't know what she's doing half the time!... Like you go, even saying I did serve quite a bit faster than her, which I do like, you know she still should o... i if the bar done seven fifty she should have, she should have done what... two, three and a half? Oh yeah.
[Hugh:] At least, like. Well she, I mean, she might have done it. She should have done a bit more than that actually.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Hugh:] She should have been doing three hundred.... Still leaves me a hundred and fifty ahead of her like, you know. Like, you didn't serve any drinks did you Barry?
[Barry:] No. No. Er
[Hugh:] So all
[Barry:] twenty, twenty quid's worth maybe at the end. Not much.... If it's gonna be like that we do need a glass collector don't we? We need somebody on to collect glasses.
[Hugh:] But er, there wasn't really any... even though it was quite, we, we, we did have quite a lot of glasses. Mind you, they would have gone and broke if we line them up.
[Barry:] Yeah, but Ka Katrin wasn't, Katrin wasn't.
[Hugh:] She'd got no, oh that's right, yeah.
[Barry:] You know
[Hugh:] Well that's another thing, I think that black man as well is getting drinks as well.... Mind you, you wouldn't mind, you'd give him a couple like, if you
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] help us, you
[Barry:] No.
[Hugh:] know like.
[Barry:] Well that's right, I mean, you know, two or, two or three drinks to us is only costing like a quid, well it's only a quid.
[Hugh:] Yeah, but she's been caught doing it as well. Ach! It's not the point, Jean put o said to me last week about the fucking.... Like, and there's other people in there that are... you know, they should be wrote down, and she looked at me
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] like.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Oh yeah, I mean, they're gonna have to be from now on cos we're not gonna be, you know, we're gonna be... responsible to
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] somebody else, not just ourselves, you know. Okay, if we wa if we want to turn a blind eye to it then that's our business you know... but er... but when you're, when you're actually erm
[Hugh:] Answerable to someone else.
[Barry:] Yeah. Present accounts to somebody else you can't do it like that can you? You know water's looking disgusting!... What other results were there last night?
[Hugh:] Er... Forest
[Barry:] The
[Hugh:] won four two.
[Barry:] Oh did they?
[Hugh:] Doing really well..... Liverpool drew one each with Bristol Rovers.
[Barry:] That don't sound right.
[Hugh:] I've seen it, seen that one... I've seen that match... they were lucky.
[Barry:] Sunderland... won, who were they playing?
[Hugh:] Sunderland won. Er... Oxford I think. They were winning three nil... three two at the end of it. Oxford scored one on the end
[Barry:] Not many first division teams left is there?
[Hugh:] Nine.
[Barry:] About... nine is there?
[Hugh:] Wrexham were unlucky against Blackburn.
[Barry:] Oh! Weren't they? Didn't they play well?
[Hugh:] Yes! They've always been a
[Barry:] I thought they played
[Hugh:] good club side... Wrexham.
[Barry:] Yeah, they have but I mean, they got a lot of good skilful young lads haven't they? They're only like nineteen and twenty
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] and... I mean that young fullback looked brilliant! That lef
[Hugh:] Yeah. Mm mm. Quite good. Composed as well like. Talented.
[Barry:] Yeah.... It's a funny law that er... clear chance at goal job innit? I mean it's a... funny definition.... I must admit I, I... if you could stop that deliberate foul it's... I mean it's better for the game if you can stop it.
[Hugh:] Send them off.
[Barry:] Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I mean if you're gonna do it
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] do it, do it, do it
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] consistently.... Cos, actually, the other thing about defenders hauling people down like that, you know, how many times when a forward's through one on one on a goal keeper does he score? It's not that often actually.
[Hugh:] No.
[Barry:] I mean, okay, somebody like Besty
[Hugh:] Thing you want
[Barry:] you could bet on
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] nine times out of ten, but
[Hugh:] But even, even against the goalkeeper they fucking lose fifty percent of the, like
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] I was saying... more than fifty percent of the playing
[Barry:] Yeah, I would, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[Hugh:] And that's all just... one on one on the goalkeeper.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Well that's what I mean, I mean, you know,th th the player could let him, could let him go really without deliberately fouling him because... it's, it's gonna
[Hugh:] Half the
[Barry:] be at least a fifty fifty
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] chance that the goalkeeper's gonna save it innit?
[Hugh:] It's fucking gotta be straight like that, I, I, I don't fucking... taking off three points for a.... At the start it seemed to improve the matches but it, they've just become too hectic now I think.
[Barry:] Mm.
[Hugh:] You know, there's not as much skill involved as there was.
[Barry:] No. No, that's right. It's
[Hugh:] Like the
[Barry:] incredibly passed.
[Hugh:] the first, the first season like the football did seem to improve but it's not
[Barry:] That's right.
[Hugh:] gonna go back now I think.
[Barry:] United have got a strange side at the moment though
[Hugh:] Oh yes.
[Barry:] I mean I don't think you can... it's alright having all these players but if you... he doesn't seem
[Hugh:] They don't play.
[Barry:] he doesn't seem to
[Hugh:] They
[Barry:] have an idea of what he wants. Cos I mean
[Hugh:] No they don't.
[Barry:] every week he's got a different sort of format.
[Hugh:] Well what's he supposed to do? Giggs, Semen.
[Barry:] Well he had him
[Hugh:] Well I think he's gotta look at, and the team should be in with you
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] like.
[Barry:] He had him playing yesterday, er, but they dropped Hughes.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah I know []. Well you don't drop Hughes for anybody!
[Barry:] And his two subs, Hughes and Sharp, I mean it does rather hamstring
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] you if anything happens to a central defender dunnit?
[Hugh:] Yeah. Well I don't think Hughes should ever be sub like, he should be on the team.
[Barry:] Well that's right, even if he's not scoring goals he's creating so much pressure and, and
[Hugh:] Yeah, he always done like. Good in defence as well.
[Barry:] Yeah. That's right. Well he's also summat, er I mean he's, he's one of the best... at holding a ball... you know
[Hugh:] Fantastic shielding the ball
[Barry:] on his own.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] Whitbreads are here.... Arsenal
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Hugh:] played well.
[Barry:] Yeah.... The crowd were getting at them last night.
[Hugh:] Were they?
[Barry:] The first goal was dreadful! My... did you see it?
[Hugh:] They were winning three nil weren't they?
[Barry:] Yeah. Did you see this goal?
[Hugh:] No. I remember seeing, but I heard fucking result on News at Ten.
[Barry:] It was a long
[Hugh:] I know.
[Barry:] it was a... it was full pass inside to two fullbacks... er, for the... Southampton player that was running on... this fullback shaded it away... you know, guiding him out of it, he's running to the e... sa Smeichel came out to the edge of the area... but he was like right on the edge... as the player was coming to him, so he just let it roll a little bit further, he stopped it with his foot, the guy came and tackled him off... got it... instead of just picking it up with his hand, I mean he was actually in the area but like... he was right on the edge and he took a step back
[Hugh:] Why the fuck didn't he
[Barry:] and stopped it with his foot. Yeah.
[Hugh:] wait for the ball coming in?... I tell you Liverpool were really lucky cos er... Bristol Rovers had got a penalty.
[Barry:] Mm.... As long they, as long as they win the league I do I don't mind.... Been a long time. Mind you
[Hugh:] I know.
[Barry:] Leeds are still... bloody doing well though.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]...... They won three nil last week didn't they?
[Barry:] Yeah. Oh every week they... putting it together, scoring the goals.
[Hugh:] I think they were about a hundred and fifty to one I'm standing see if they can win the league.
[Barry:] Are they?
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Barry:] Yeah.... Wouldn't be a bad that actually, cos if it did
[Hugh:] Yeah, they played well the year before they held their own see they've got all the
[Barry:] They played last year didn't they?
[Hugh:] the best lads.
[Barry:] Yeah. I mean they're, they ended up about... what were they, about fifth or something weren't they?
[Hugh:] Yeah, last year. Aha.
[Barry:] And they bought er players didn't they? They put, you know, started to buy a few... you know, like Dorego and things like that. Wallace... not a bad buy.
[Hugh:] Arsenal are playing terrible aren't they?
[Barry:] Mm.
[Hugh:] Roecastle's started to play well again this
[Barry:] Yeah.... It was an awful goal that United gave away weren't it?
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] We I mean, it was only Palaster in, in that half. And where the hell the fullbacks were!
[Hugh:] In wonderland.
[speaker004:] Who was it who first said that they'd witnessed something?
[Barry:] Yeah. What?
[Hugh:] Well you not, you liked the but erm
[Barry:] No I never.
[Hugh:] You did.
[Barry:] No I never.
[Hugh:] It was you or Peter.
[Terri:] Who was this?
[Barry:] No it wasn't.
[Hugh:] It weren't me. It was either you or Peter.
[Barry:] It weren't me.
[Hugh:] You then.
[Terri:] No it weren't me.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER] It weren't me, I never played [].
[Terri:] Do, don't get, don't get me into this.
[Hugh:] Oh! [interference from computer game crowd cheering]
[Barry:] I dunno where he is.
[Hugh:] It weren't me. Can you place a shot? Turn that up!
[Barry:] Yes.
[Hugh:] Please!
[Terri:] Probably go back stop.
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]... I can score your point now.
[Terri:] No, no, that's that thing called. Bull boy back stop.
[Hugh:] You're playing this.
[Terri:] Bollocks!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] You're a blue oyster... in disguise.
[Hugh:] ... You're a blue boy...
[Barry:] It's meant to be a tenner.
[Hugh:] Oh.
[Terri:] Nine two on aggregate.
[Hugh:] Ah!
[Barry:] What a tenner between ya?
[Hugh:] No, tenner for each.
[Barry:] Yeah.
[Terri:] [scream]
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] It's the spirit!
[Hugh:] [LAUGHTER]
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] No, if you only you had a fart coming. [interference from computer game] He just went... or it sounds like.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] Pa. It sounded, a little breather.
[Barry:] [LAUGHTER]
[Terri:] Pa.
[Hugh:] Okay, you was all quiet until you went [scream]
[Terri:] No, Kev, no. I didn't go raargh aargh!
[Hugh:] Well I don't think I did so
[Terri:] Yes you did.
[Hugh:] No I never.
[Terri:] Yes you did.
[Hugh:] No I never.
[Terri:] You did.
[Hugh:] No.
[Terri:] You did.
[Hugh:] No.
[Terri:] You did.
[Hugh:] No.
[Terri:] You did.
[Hugh:] No.
[Terri:] You did.
[Hugh:] No.
[Terri:] Look, you've been repeating yourself again.
[Hugh:] Yeah, so are you.
[Terri:] No I ain't.
[Hugh:] Yeah.
[Terri:] I di, I ain't repeating yourself.
[Hugh:] Did, you did. You did!
[Terri:] I ain't repeating yourself. So I done alright.
[Hugh:] Ha ha! So funny!
[Barry:] What's he got playing like this.
[Terri:] Rumbled it. Seven eight
[Hugh:] You've done it again.
[Terri:] [belch]
[Barry:] Do him you wanker!
[Terri:] Joe or something.
[Barry:] I know.
[Terri:] Half way down.... Sam's brother.
[Hugh:] Sam's there.
[Terri:] If Sam came up to you... and you ge your Mil, you had Millwall and Sam right, rips it off right, ripped it to pieces and that, started burning it, and he give you a Wimbledon shirt in return what would you do?
[Hugh:] Probably... do the same to his. Mm.
[Terri:] What, then you'd give him a Millwall shirt?
[Hugh:] I'd give it back. I got a and my Dad was going
[Terri:] I'd kill him! [LAUGHTER]... Your Dad'd kill him and all.
[Hugh:] I know. I wouldn't.
[Terri:] Poor old Bobby.
[Hugh:] He's always had to find a new friend, he don't trust me.
[Terri:] a good friend, ah!
[Barry:] Pass!
[Terri:] I wanna be your friend.
[Hugh:] He for a lunch.
[Terri:] Far from a friend.
[Hugh:] I wanna get you expelled.
[Terri:] Bollocks!... Paul. Joss ran into the wind. Oh shot! Ha!... Oh a excellent boot, enough far. Someone should tell Joey.
[Barry:] , but someone's already told him....
[Hugh:] Oh sorry, I'm on the.
[Terri:] Whoever listens to this... your Mum's like fish and chips, a come slap-up.... Good goal. [a lot of interference from computer game not very clear speech]
[Hugh:] I reckon those kids are getting... Hooray!... [singing] [].
[Barry:] Oh it's on there.
[Hugh:] [singing] [].
[Terri:] Oh it's too smelly at Millwall.
[Hugh:] Hey. I says at, Arsenal! [singing], it's not against fanny and Chelsea [].
[Terri:] [LAUGHTER] Who's this fanny and Chelsea []?
[Hugh:] [singing] Oh yeah, cos I know it's wonderful [].