[speaker001:] I I'm still having trouble with this leg. It aches and er at nighttime I can't I can't rest with it.
[speaker002:] Right. Do you find it's just at night or is it in the day too?
[speaker001:] Er w more at night you know.
[speaker002:] Right. Does it make you want Is it the sort of ache that makes you want to wriggle it around?
[speaker001:] Yeah. I'm kicking it all the while.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] If I lie on settee I've always got this leg hanging, because I
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] can't stand it up. And it's same er when I get in bed,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I always get in bed on me left me right and then I like to turn over to me right.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] But I found out that me back's been hurting me since I come up before, me back
[speaker002:] Mm.
[speaker001:] been playing up a bit. So I had to get out of bed and turn over. But I still i can't lie on it, I still have to go back cos of that leg you see?
[speaker002:] Okay. Now we tried a bit of W a We actually gave you a worth of something last time,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] did that help?
[speaker001:] Mm. Well not really, it
[speaker002:] Right.
[speaker001:] er you know. I mean I don't I try to not to take a lot of notice of it you
[speaker002:] Good.
[speaker001:] know.
[speaker002:] Okay, can you just slip your shoe and sock off,
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] And I can have another look, check your circulation.
[speaker001:] I'm always cold. An but me feet are warm now. But I'm always cold.
[speaker002:] When did we last check your thyroid?
[speaker001:] Er was it was it Ma er
[speaker002:] Have we done one this year? I I
[speaker001:] I had it I've had it May. I had I had three checks, thyroid
[speaker002:] Good.
[speaker001:] me er water and er Was it me general?
[speaker002:] Yeah. I'll I'll just check that.
[speaker001:] Yeah. They all came through right I think.
[speaker002:] Oh that's okay then. I mean me hands is ever Yeah.
[speaker001:] so cold.
[speaker002:] Yeah. That that may be
[speaker001:] My hands are stone cold.
[speaker002:] That may just be Cos you've got good circulation, in fact, down here. Even if you feel cold, it's not bad, not at all. Okay. Can you wiggle your b ankle backwards and forwards, that's okay. Doe sit ache much now?
[speaker001:] No no, not at the moment, no.
[speaker002:] No okay.
[speaker001:] I think when I'm knocking
[speaker002:] And you haven't really got veins? Have varicose veins okay.
[speaker001:] No
[speaker002:] Okay, and your knee e
[speaker001:] Yeah, all me knees ache sometimes. I'm told I'd got arthritis in there, but that's years ago.
[speaker002:] Okay. Well I'm sure this er I think it's certainly nothing serious, it [water running]
[speaker001:] Oh that's what You see I'm alright, but I thought oh I better come up because I've got to come up
[speaker002:] Yes.
[speaker001:] next month about that cream that I use.
[speaker002:] Yeah. It's called This is called restless leg syndrome.
[speaker001:] Oh is it? I was
[speaker002:] Yeah. And it's a menace. It
[speaker001:] And it
[speaker002:] really is a menace.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Because although it's not serious, there really is no brilliant treatment for it. and it comes and goes,
[speaker001:] Yeah, well
[speaker002:] And and it really does make you want Oh it
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Nasty thing.
[speaker001:] But I thought well, While I I'll ma kill two birds with one stone, and I'll er come
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] up and see him. And you told me to come September for about the cream.
[speaker002:] That's right yeah.
[speaker001:] But I though it's
[speaker002:] there.
[speaker001:] it's nearly here now isn't it?
[speaker002:] That's r [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] So I thought if I er But I was beginning to get a bit worried so I thought well I might as well go up because I shall start to worry and things get out of proportion with me you see?
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] so. Who's the artist, is its are the children?
[speaker002:] That's my daughter mainly. Mainly Rebecca
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] Not all of the two have been done by
[speaker001:] Mm.
[speaker002:] Mostly Rebecca.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER]...
[speaker002:] Right now. You're on various bits and bobs, and you're also on the cream.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] If we're going to try anything else for this restless leg,
[speaker001:] Mm.
[speaker002:] it may be worth trying quinine which is widely used for night cramps.
[speaker001:] Mm.
[speaker002:] And sometimes that does help.
[speaker001:] Mm.
[speaker002:] We don't why it works, but it certainly does. And it's worth a go. A
[speaker001:] Mm.
[speaker002:] trial of quinine and that may well help.
[speaker001:] Just a What is it?
[speaker002:] Yeah, it's one a night.
[speaker001:] One a night.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] Well I take me Samamigram you know at night.
[speaker002:] That's fine, they don't interfere with each other.
[speaker001:] Oh,
[speaker002:] At all.
[speaker001:] want to
[speaker002:] No no no no no no no no no.
[speaker001:] [LAUGHTER] As I should do. []
[speaker002:] Now you wouldn't do that but it may that may be worth a go. Okay.
[speaker001:] Mm. Yeah.
[speaker002:] Now what about the cream, how are things going on with that, cos you've been
[speaker001:] Well
[speaker002:] on it for a little while now.
[speaker001:] er a year.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I's a year since Well I was a lot better since
[speaker002:] Yes. Twice a week?
[speaker001:] Yes.
[speaker002:] Yeah, no discharge, bleeding, anything like that?
[speaker001:] No. Only I came up before you know, when
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] er about with me husband, you know.
[speaker002:] Aha.
[speaker001:] And it was just But I don't er I don't seem as though er it was er sometimes I saw I saw a spot of blood, but it
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] not not like the deep red blood, you know what I mean?
[speaker002:] That's right, yeah.
[speaker001:] And I came er I came up before, can't you remember
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I come up and
[speaker002:] That's right.
[speaker001:] er er that's the only time. I don't have
[speaker002:] Right
[speaker001:] any bleeding in between
[speaker002:] good,
[speaker001:] nothing
[speaker002:] good,
[speaker001:] you know.
[speaker002:] god.
[speaker001:] But the first time I did use it I thought me inside were on fire.
[speaker002:] Oh yes, it often irritates in the same way when you first start to drink spirits you feel [disgusted noise]
[speaker001:] Oh dear,
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I whatever am I going
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] to do and I rung my daughter next morning,
[speaker002:] But it goes As you notice [LAUGHTER] it goes off []
[speaker001:] It went and it sent to sooth
[speaker002:] That's right. Yeah.
[speaker001:] My inside and
[speaker002:] It does.
[speaker001:] It really soothed it.
[speaker002:] Yeah, it makes a big difference, yeah.
[speaker001:] Yes.
[speaker002:] Yeah.... Right well I'm glad you're okay on that. Now you've had er a hysterectomy, ooh a long time ago that's right.
[speaker001:] Fif fifteen I were fifty one. It's
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] fifteen years, and I had a Promatch
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] repair when I were forty five. And
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] I'm sixty six, so that's twenty one years and fifteen
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] isn't it?
[speaker002:] Yeah. That's right yeah.
[speaker001:] Erm
[speaker002:] B So you can continue on that indefinitely.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] So what We'll say trial of quinine, yeah? Give it a go?
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] [cough]
[speaker001:] It's not addictive or anything like that is it?
[speaker002:] Oh no no no no no. It's not i
[speaker001:] Cos I'm frightened of
[speaker002:] It's not a sedative or tranquillizer,
[speaker001:] No it's just
[speaker002:] Quinine.
[speaker001:] No well
[speaker002:] No.
[speaker001:] I didn't what did they use to take that for? Malaria,
[speaker002:] Malaria.
[speaker001:] yeah.
[speaker002:] Among other things,
[speaker001:] Yeah yeah. Having a s
[speaker002:] But not at this dose, this is a low dose.
[speaker001:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] A low dose of quinine. But it's worth a go.
[speaker001:] I mean once I know what a thing is
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] that's half my battle. Because I I stop
[speaker002:] Good, yeah.
[speaker001:] worrying.
[speaker002:] Restless legs it's called.
[speaker001:] Ooh.
[speaker002:] Restless legs, and it sums it up, because [LAUGHTER] they do get restless []. It's got a posh name, I can't remember what it's called now, but it has got a posh name too.
[speaker001:] I know they all have but I mean I'd rather have the ordinary names and then
[speaker002:] Yeah. Well so would I cos I remember them I can't
[speaker001:] And then I know
[speaker002:] I can't remember the posh names usually.
[speaker001:] The same with flowers and all them plants and that. I'd much rather have a plain name I know what they're talking about then.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[speaker001:] And because I'm not very.
[speaker002:] Yeah, we're plain folk aren't we?
[speaker001:] Yeah. I'm not very high up on
[speaker002:] No.
[speaker001:] all these posh words.
[speaker002:] No. So one a night. Won't interfere with anything else, and if that's helping, so much the better.
[speaker001:] Oh can I have some cream please? I'm all but out of it.
[speaker002:] Ooh squeeze that in at the bottom there.
[speaker001:] Yeah, can you manage?
[speaker002:] Yeah. It's right teeny.... Okay use twice a week. i haven't put that on, because I haven't got room. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker001:] Yeah, well I know I know what to do with that.
[speaker002:] Okay.
[speaker001:] Thank you very much.
[speaker002:] we'll give that a go.
[speaker001:] Yes, okay.
[speaker002:] And then we'll see how things go.
[speaker001:] Yeah okay then
[speaker002:] Okay. [tape change]