[Joy:] Press that down to make it sto stay. Right, do you want your story then? Yes?... Hmm? Hmm The Spider Affair, alright? [cough]... Knock it off. [LAUGHTER] [reading] The first lesson that aft [] leave it alone and just forget about it hmm? [reading] The first lesson that afternoon was mental arithmetic. The girls groaned over this, except the quick ones like Irene who delighted in it, but it meant that there was no need for anyone to open the desk because it was all oral work. Miss Potts was lenient with the girls for it was a very hot afternoon. Daryl was glad that Miss Potts was not as exacting as usual for arithmetic was not her strong point especially mental arithmetic. The next lesson to be taken my mam was to be taken by Mademoiselle Dupont. It was to be a French conversation lesson in which the girls would endeavour to answer all Mademoiselle's simple questions in French. Miss Potts left and Mademoiselle arrived, not quite so beaming as usual because of the heat. She was too to enjoy the hot weather and little beads of perspiration shone on her forehead as she sat down at the big desk opposite the row of girls. Sit down, she said and the girls sat down thankfully feeling that the only lesson they really enjoy that weather would be swimming lesson. The lesson proceeded slowly and hauntingly, the flow of French conversation was not at all brisk on the girls' part and the constant pauses began to irritate Mademoiselle. Ah! She cried at last. It's too hot to make conversation with such stupid ones as you are this afternoon. Get out your grammar books and I will explain a few things to you that will help your conversation if you can get them into your so stupid heads. [cough] The girls opened their desks to get out their grammar books. Gwendoline watched eagerly to see what would happen when Mary-Lou opened hers but nothing did happen. Mary-Lou had neither seen the spider nor disturbed it, she shut her desk. All the girls opened their grammar books at the page Mademoiselle commanded then Mary-Lou found she had her English grammar instead of her French one so she reopened her desk to get the right book. What are you doing Mary-Lou? Demanded Mademoiselle who hated desks being opened and shut too often. What are you doing?... mm []?
[speaker002:] I got the wrong book out [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Probably. [reading] Mary-Lou stuffed her English grammar into the back of her desk and pulled out a French one. The spider feeling itself dislodged by the book ran out in a fright. It ran almost up to Mary-Lou before she saw it, she let the desk lid with a terrific bang and gave a heart rendering scream. Everyone jumped in alarm, Mademoiselle leapt to her feet sending a pile of books clattering from her desk to the floor she glared at Mary-Lou
[speaker002:] [moan]
[Joy:] what is this noise, Mary-Lou have you gone mad? Mary-Lou couldn't speak, the sight of the enormous spider apparently running straight at her had completely undone her. She scraped her chair away from her desk and stared at it as if she expected the spider to jump through the lid. Mary-Lou! Thundered Mademoiselle, tell me what is the matter with you, I demand it? Oh, Mademoiselle there's a, there's a simply enormous giant spider in my desk []... leave it alone, you'll just knock it off [reading] stammered Mary-Lou quite pale. A spider! Said Mademoiselle, and you make this fuss and call out so loudly that we all jump in fear. Mary-Lou be ashamed of yourself. I am angry with you, sit down. Oh, I, I daren't,M said Mary-Lou trembling, he might come out Mademoiselle, it's enormous. Mademoiselle wasn't quite sure whether she really believed in this spider or not. What with Elissia's deafness last week and one thing and another. Irene giggled, Mademoiselle fixed her with a glare. We will see whether this spider exists or not... she said firmly and I warn you Mary-Lou if this is a again a trick and there is no spider you will go to Miss Potts for punishment I wash my hands of you. She advanced to the desk she threw open the lid dramatically Mary-Lou drew in her breath and got away as far as she could looking at the inside of her desk with scared eyes []... [cough]
[speaker002:] [scream]
[Joy:] Honey you've moved it too far away haven't you? [sigh] I can see this is going to be a problem [sigh] hmm?... I can't remember where I've got to now. [reading] There is no spider to be seen it had of course retreated to the darkest corner it could find again. Mademoiselle swept the desk with a searching glance and then turned on poor Mary-Lou. Bad girl! She said and stamped her foot. You so quiet and good, you too deceive me. The poor Mademoiselle I will not have it. Mademoiselle do believe me, begged Mary-Lou in despair, for she could not bear to be scolded like that. It was there an enormous one. Mademoiselle rummaged violently among the books in the desk. No spider not one, she said. Tell me where has it gone, if it is still in there? The spider was alarmed by the violent rummaging, it suddenly hurried out from its hiding place and ran onto Mademoiselle's hand and up her arm. Mademoiselle stared at the enormous thing as if she really could not believe her eyes, she gave a shriek even louder than Mary-Lou had given. She was too scared she wa too was scared of spiders and there was a giant specimen running over her person. Irene exploded. That was a signal for the class to enter into the fun and one and all scrambled over to Mademoiselle. Ah, where is it the monster? Girls, girls can you see it? Wailed Mademoiselle. It's here, said wicked Elissia, with her light finger down Mademoiselle's spine... She gave a scream thinking that it was the spider running there. Take it off I beg you Elissia, remove it from me. I think it must have gone down your neck Mademoiselle, said Betty, which nearly made Mademoiselle have a fit. She immediately felt sure that it was all over her and began to shiver and tremble. Elissia tickled the back of her neck and she leapt in the air. Oh, la la, la la, what a miserable woman I am! Where is this monster girls, girls tell me where it is gone? There was now a complete uproar in the first form room, Miss Potts again in the second form... room was amazingly exasperated. What could her form be doing now, had Mademoiselle left them alone, had they all gone mad? Go on with your maps for a minute she said to the second form who were glancing at one another in astonishment as they heard the noise from the first form room. She left the room and went rapidly to the door of the first form. She opened it, the noise hit her like something solid, worse than breaks she thought grimly. First she could not see any mistress there at all and thought the girls were alone and then she caught sight of Mademoiselle's head in the middle of a crowd of girls, what was happening? Girls! She said. But her voice went unheard. Girls! Irene suddenly saw her and started to nudge everyone. Look out, here's Potty she hissed. The girls flowed back
[speaker002:] Potty
[Joy:] from Mademoiselle as if they were water.
[speaker002:] Ah ha.
[Joy:] In a trice everyone was by her desk. Mademoiselle stood alone trembling wondering what was happening. Where had the monster of a spider gone? Mademoiselle, really, said Miss Potts, almost forgetting the rule the staff had of never finding fault with one another before the girls. I simply cannot think what has happened to this class you've ta when you've. Mademoiselle blinked at Miss Potts. It was a spider! She explained, looking up and down herself. Ah, Miss Potts, but a monster of a spider, it ran up my arm and disappeared. Ah! Seem to feel it everywhere. A spider won't hurt you, said Miss Potts coldly and unfeelingly. Would you like to go and recover yourself Mademoiselle
[speaker002:] [cough]
[Joy:] and let me deal with the first form? [cough] Ah no, said Mademoiselle indignantly, the class it is good, the girls they came to help me to get this monster of a spider [].
[speaker002:] Who's she?
[Joy:] Gwendoline, I think, look it's on her... leg.
[speaker002:] Hmm... yes.
[Joy:] [reading] So big it was Miss Potts. Miss Potts looked so disbelieving, Mademoiselle exaggerated the size of the spider and held out her hands to show Miss Potts it was at least as big as a fair sized frog. The girls had enjoyed everything immensely. What a French lesson! Gwendoline had enjoyed it too, especially as she was the cause of it, though nobody knew that of course. She sat demurely in her desk watching the two mistresses closely. And then suddenly she felt something running up her leg she looked down it was the spider, it had left Mademoiselle a long time ago and had secreted itself under a desk afraid of all the trampling feet around. Now, when peace seemed restored the spider wanted to seek a better hiding place. It ran over Gwendoline's shoe, up her stocking and above her knee.
[speaker002:] [moan]
[Joy:] She gave a piercing scream [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] [sigh]
[Joy:] everyone jumped again. Miss Potts turned fiercely. Gwendoline go out of the room, how dare you squeal like that. No, don't tell me you've seen the spider, I'm tired of the spider, I'm ashamed of you all. Gwendoline shook herself violently not daring to scream again but filled with the utmost horror at the thought of the spider creeping over her. It was the spider, she began, it... Gwendoline what did I tell you, I will not hear another word of the wretched spider, said Miss Potts raising her voice angrily. Go out of the room! The whole class can go to bed one hour earlier tonight as punishment for this shameful behaviour. And you Gwendoline can go two hours earlier. Weeping, Gwendoline ran from the room. As soon as she got outside she examined herself carefully and trembling to see if she... see if the spider was still anywhere about her.
[speaker002:] Yes.
[Joy:] To her enormous relief she suddenly saw it running down the passage, she leant against the wall, how tiresome of that spider to come to her when it might have gone to anyone else. Now she'd got to have a double punishment, still she would soon put it about that Elissia and Daryl had planted the spider in Mary- Lou's desk. How sickening of Miss Potts to pounce on her like that. She couldn't help it if the spider came to her. But perhaps, after all it was a good thing that Miss Potts had come into the room and heard it all. Perhaps Gwendoline might even drop a hint to Miss Potts about Elissia and Daryl putting the spider in the desk. Miss Potts came out of the room at this moment, she eyed Gwendoline with dislike. Miss Potts the spider ran away down there, said Gwendoline pointing anxiously to... anxious to get back into Miss Potts' good books. Miss Potts took not the slightest notice but swept into the second form classroom and the door shut. Gwendoline felt very small. Now what was she to do? Stay out here or go back into the classroom, she didn't want to be found out there if by any chance Miss Graining the Head came by. She decided to risk going back, she opened the door and sidled in. Ha! You are back again, and who told you to come? Demanded Mademoiselle now ashamed of her part in the affair and ready to vent her humiliated feelings on anyone she could. You screamed and made Miss Potts white and angry [].
[speaker002:] who did that?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Amy I think.
[speaker002:] Is that how you spell it?
[Joy:] No, it's
[speaker002:] No
[Joy:] got two Ts.... [reading] Well Mademoiselle you screamed, too protested Gwendoline in an injured tone, louder than I did, I should think. Mademoiselle rose to her in her seat and for all her smallness she seemed enormous to Gwendoline just then, her beady eyes...
[speaker002:] Who did?
[Joy:] flashed []. Mademoiselle. [reading] You would be rude to me, Mademoiselle Dupont, you would argue with me []
[speaker002:] [cough]
[Joy:] Oh dear.
[speaker002:] [cough]
[Joy:] A good... trio aren't we?
[speaker002:] Mademoiselle Dupont.
[Joy:] [reading] You would argue with me who have taught here for twenty years you, you, Gwendoline turned and fled. She would rather stand outside the door all day long than face Mademoiselle when she looked like that []. Alright, I think we'd better give up and have some breakfast.
[speaker002:] Oh, but I only had one.
[Joy:] I know but it's late this morning.
[speaker002:] Oh! Mind the yogurt! That's not fair.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]...
[speaker002:] It's half past ten. Half past ten... Oh! I only had two!
[Joy:] I know
[speaker002:] Mary you've missed Playbus. Yeah
[Joy:] I should think you've missed that haven't you?
[speaker002:] No.
[Joy:] What? I should think you've missed it haven't you?
[speaker002:] No I haven't.
[Joy:] Hmm, try it if you like.
[speaker002:] I like Penny.
[Joy:] You like Penny's house do you?
[speaker002:] Is that still clean?
[Joy:] Right. Is that a oh no you've got to, Amy you've got to press the standby button. Ha. Oh, I don't know where the thing is. Over by Daddy... [tv on in background] There you are it's finished... [tv noise]
[speaker002:] [cough] big snails... or a snake... He looks like Jason Donovan.
[Joy:] No it's a little boy isn't it?
[speaker002:] Yes... it's... [tv noise] Is that a snake? Ah!
[Joy:] He's facing to Amy.
[speaker002:] Hello.
[Joy:] Don't be silly, come on will you get your breakfast. Right, er, Amy what do you want?
[speaker002:] Sandwiches, Marmite sandwiches. Please. Please.
[Joy:] Play with it, stop...
[speaker002:] Are they your Marmite sandwiches? Only two. But why do I have to say thank you?
[Joy:] Because it's polite.
[speaker002:] Oh. [noise background] Erm, what do you want it in your plate? Pardon, pardon. On my plate yes. [crockery noise] Thank you. There's your plate. ... Terribly awful
[Joy:] I think you always yourself
[speaker002:] Why?
[Joy:] Because you don't hear yourself in the same way as everybody else hears you.
[speaker002:] No Cos I sound hmm, I sound like Amy don't I?
[Joy:] heard you.
[speaker002:] What?
[Joy:] Well, you didn't say anything.
[speaker002:] you you sound the same as there's a lot Well you're saying a lot now.
[Joy:] Probably.
[speaker002:] But
[Joy:] tax
[speaker002:] no, bring a towel I thought I did. ... I thought I did.
[Joy:] Can we get some breakfast, or else we'll get nothing done today at all.
[speaker002:] Yes. That's for going round with the tape
[Joy:] Well, get Amy's then.
[speaker002:] Yes
[Joy:] Let me put a cardigan on for you.
[speaker002:] I have.
[Joy:] Yes well [cough] No, it's alright we don't need that, you can drink your orange if you like. You could go and get yourself a knife. You could do something useful instead of just sitting there like a
[speaker002:] There you go
[Joy:] [high pitched]... you do that, I put it like that They've told her she's had three years more than what she should of had, she's living on borrowed time, but, erm, she said the ho er good, good support for her though she said he's erm, he's good, I've been trying to phone the Mencap place all morning, I can't get through I, I don't know
[Connie:] but you knew about that, there's two open, both
[Joy:] They're open
[Connie:] Two open, two, yeah and er, didn't say a lot, you know, they keep bringing them round and round these flats don't they?... Oh they look nice on the wall they look nice, you know
[Joy:] Well we, are we going to the thing tonight?
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] well we'll have to, I'll have to go and erm get this dinner going because erm, we've got to leave about well we want, well we want to leave for about twenty past five then
[Connie:] Yeah, alright
[Joy:] because erm
[Connie:] well I've done all me work I've only got to get dad's tea,
[Joy:] cos that first acts on at ten, at six o'clock
[Connie:] Well I should think that'll be funny
[Joy:] yeah, it might be
[Connie:] couple of us sitting at the back
[Joy:] but Reggie, Reggie will come in and go straight to bed, he's been up since about quarter to four
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] so he'll, he'll go straight, more or less down, have his tea and go straight to bed, so I've got to go home and cook this
[Connie:] What have you got in there?
[Joy:] Who?
[Connie:] Little
[Joy:] I've just bought him a shoulder of lamb, a breast of lamb, well he to tell me some of them best, I said are there any best it's surprising how people talk to butchers, you know Who wants a biscuit? Sit then, let me see you sit for good, sit, sit
[Connie:] Good girl... hang on
[Joy:] sit... oh that's pretty, sit...
[Connie:] I like Barbara
[Joy:] Mm
[Connie:] I like Barbara, she's a good girl.
[Joy:] She's got a good heart...
[Connie:] Her heart's in the right place anyway isn't it?
[Joy:] She's the same as we've all been treated at home...
[Connie:] Does she tell any of the, some of the inside secrets? Does she, like the cheques that have been written.
[Joy:] I would say
[Connie:] Cheques that have been
[Joy:] didn't have
[Connie:] cheques for five, six thousand pounds, he said said, if I can't come for that typewriter then I've sold it, he said I, I told her if she wanted it she'd got to come and collect it and he said and nobody asked for it, I said well I know
[Joy:] can't remember her saying
[Connie:] yeah, what's that?
[Joy:] I remember her saying
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] I'll have to put my weight back on now I've stopped smoking
[Connie:] You will
[Joy:] Good boy, there ain't many for you erm, cos you'll all eat biscuits till the
[Connie:] Yeah where
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? There's a cat in your garden, there's a pussy cat in your garden... oh dear I'll have to go without the swim I've only got an hour and a half...
[Connie:] Don't worry about them
[Joy:] Who?
[Connie:] Them
[Joy:] Got to cook it though, I shan't have time to cook it before we go out tonight, then I won't be going out no... Renee's getting
[Connie:] Makes me wonder what all these people are doing there, there's thousands, twenty three pairs in there one day
[Joy:] Well they've worked their lives round these events I suppose, I mean... it's not everybody's these people round the horses, horsy world going they erm
[Connie:] I had me electric bill this morning
[Joy:] Oh god.
[Connie:] eighty six pounds
[Joy:] Oh my god, well they've estimated mine, it's fifty five pounds eighty, I checked to see the numbers on it and it's a hundred eight
[Connie:] still got
[Joy:] and it's on more I've used a hundred units more.
[Connie:] so next year you'll have to
[Joy:] yes, mine estimated, said nine hundred and eighty's, nine, eight, six, four and we've used seven hundred and twenty units or something like that and it was fifty five pound odd, so when I checked it's, it's zero, eight, nine, seven something like that
[Connie:] Oh
[Joy:] hundred and odd over the top, so it's gonna be doubled that
[Connie:] that's mine next one, did I erm, no one sent round
[Joy:] Yes they did.
[Connie:] he said there's ten, twenty pound notes in that cupboard, I, I I said how much is that he said five hundred pound is that
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] Hello, four twenties
[Connie:] no, no, no, fifties
[Joy:] Five fifties that's two hundred and fifty
[Connie:] no, he said there were ten, he said there were ten, I said oh well that's five hundred quid, I said that leaves you with I said no, today he said I I said you'd better George for some.
[Joy:] Said ten, fifty pounds
[Connie:] Mm
[Joy:] ten fifty pounds are five hundred... if they're twenty pounds, did he mean they were ten twenty pounds or ten fifty pounds?
[Connie:] No fifty pounds, they were fifty pounds I know he said he'd made a mistake so I thought there were ten and there's only five or something
[Joy:] Oh, it's two hundred and fifty pound then
[Connie:] He was gonna pay George but I said that one, that one wouldn't next week, it would only pay for that one won't he? Why I said I don't think it matters I said cos I think
[Joy:] Are you going to have er Erm, are you going to erm... oh I've forgotten what I was gonna say
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Get him down, sort him out then
[Connie:] he's got him...
[Joy:] poor old thing, get him up he growls at Reggie when he comes up to say ta ta in the morning, if Reggie puts his arm under him, and looks as if he's gonna move him off the bed he, he'll, he'll growl He won't growl at me but he'll grow at Reggie.
[Connie:] He does a lot of sneezing
[Joy:] Who?
[Connie:] Ziggy
[Joy:] Yeah, she does
[Connie:] Ooh that could be nasty
[Joy:] What's up now?
[Connie:] Er, you've got a nasty little streak...
[Joy:] Yes, she has, number one ain't you?
[Connie:] You
[Joy:] Do you want tea?
[Connie:] Ah go and get some plates.
[Joy:] Do you, do you want some tea?
[Connie:] No
[Joy:] Hold still... sit still... Is that all, is that all there is?
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] You cheater
[Connie:] Cos she keeps moving doing that
[Joy:] What, oh [LAUGHTER] just loves it here right over the two of them []... he's a stinker, he's a stinker, he loves to be with the dogs, he loves to be with the dogs, what do you want? Go on then
[Connie:] Which ones are they?
[Joy:] they're only twenty P a packet
[Connie:] she's having another baby that young girl
[Joy:] Who?
[Connie:] Fred's wife
[Joy:] Is she?
[Connie:] Yeah, she was in the shop
[Joy:] Was Daff pleased with that watch you got her?
[Norman:] What?
[Joy:] Was Daff pleased with that watch that you got her?
[Norman:] Yes, she always wears it...
[Joy:] Did she like the black face one?
[Norman:] I said I'd change it if you liked, she said no I prefer this one... [LAUGHTER] she's not very well
[Joy:] Who?
[Connie:] No, I wonder why, I wonder why she's not well?
[Norman:] Mm...
[Joy:] Do you want tea mother?
[Connie:] No thanks...
[Norman:] She only has one when I make it, it gives me something more to do.
[Joy:] Mm
[Norman:] Ah
[Joy:] You men talk a lot of rubbish
[Norman:] Do what?
[Joy:] If you, if you had to make the tea as many times in the day as us women did which they all did
[Norman:] Ah, ah, ah but, ah but you can't let me see, you don't, you don't remember the war years when I used to be in town while she was out.
[Connie:] Ha, I didn't go out that bloody much
[Norman:] You went out you
[Joy:] Twice a week
[Norman:] You went every, every Saturday night you and Harvey for years, several years during the war
[Connie:] Not every night Norman, that's a lie
[Norman:] I didn't say every night, every Saturday night
[Connie:] No Sat you used to work Fridays and I used to go out, no it weren't Saturday night
[Norman:] Saturday night you used to go out with Ben, Ben and you and Audrey, during the war, and leave me looking after the kids all of them sitting round the fire.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] That's what John said last night, we er, all they, all went to bingo five of us went and it boomeranged well if you're going I'll come, if I'm going you're going I'm going and the next thing poor old John had to go out and work look after about eleven kids
[Norman:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] we enjoyed walking home, I thought he'd gone a bingo, that's funny weren't you going home baby sitting.
[Norman:] [LAUGHTER] well I'd left home
[Joy:] Can't remember you saying you were gonna baby sit
[Connie:] How you doing, how you doing then ah? Benji, Benji what you doing? What you doing then? What you up to boy?
[Joy:] Benji buttons, he's spoilt.
[Norman:] Ah, well that's
[Joy:] cos they're going
[Connie:] No
[Norman:] Ooh
[Connie:] you eat them and get fat.
[Joy:] Who would like a little bikkie?
[Norman:] Here I will.
[Joy:] Do you want a, do you want a digestive or any digestive?
[Norman:] Don't mind.
[Connie:] He won't hurt if he don't have any more food today that dog.
[Joy:] Who?
[Connie:] Your little dog.
[Joy:] Don't be silly
[Connie:] Yeah, he won't have liver
[Joy:] don't be silly he loves his dinner at night, don't you darling? He had when I got in last night.
[Connie:] I wouldn't feed him that much...
[Joy:] Poor little devil he's gotta feed
[Connie:] No I wouldn't feed him so much
[Norman:] I want to watch
[Joy:] Gordon Bennett
[Norman:] I brought two ticket's here for Ivy and John for the... Deacon's, they might as well be members... look
[Joy:] Er, you had a jelly baby. Come on, come on up, ooh didn't think you could come, do what?
[Connie:] He jumped up,
[Joy:] do you want a jelly baby?
[Connie:] He ain't, he ain't a chocolate eater or sweetie eater... you drop it...
[Joy:] Leave him, he was going
[Connie:] Sit...
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Who's that?, who's that?
[Connie:] Oh ain't it awful
[Joy:] Terrible
[Connie:] what are you doing? What are you doing playing cards?
[Joy:] Putting out a for you
[Connie:] What?
[Joy:] we're putting out a for you, we'll make you feel all Here are there's some bingo tickets there for you with a
[Norman:] We've been
[Connie:] Oh I, we've been
[Joy:] You haven't, when did you go?
[Connie:] We went Wednesday night
[Norman:] Wednesday night
[Joy:] You never
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] you pair of tinkers
[Connie:] well we went with Celia
[Norman:] Celia asked us
[Joy:] Ooh
[Norman:] yeah
[Joy:] Did you have a win?
[Norman:] yeah we sat
[Connie:] No
[Norman:] Was it you that give us a card? Somebody give us a card and we sent it away and we got a...
[Joy:] Free entry
[Norman:] yeah and
[Joy:] perhaps I did
[Connie:] No we didn't get free entry this time
[Norman:] No we paid sixty P to get in and
[Joy:] Yeah
[Norman:] we got a free entry that's afterwards
[Connie:] Free tickets, here
[Joy:] When you went to get the
[Connie:] ain't they nice?
[Norman:] Yeah, well they're all nice ain't they?
[Joy:] Yeah, lovely, ain't it a lovely club, two people
[Connie:] Two people ain't it?
[Joy:] We went, we nearly rang you last night, we went to see the Batchelors last night
[Norman:] Where was that?
[Joy:] At, at the ca, at the gala at Wellingborough and it was their opening night, there was a band on called Me and Him
[Connie:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] and they did all sing along stuff and Chas and Dave stuff
[Connie:] Oh isn't it lovely oh really
[Norman:] Oh yeah
[Connie:] the Batchelors were one
[Joy:] and then the Batchelors come on
[Connie:] I've seen them
[Joy:] just erm Deck, Don and erm Con and Deck
[Norman:] Yeah
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] but erm, and we had a lovely night didn't we?
[speaker002:] Yeah
[Joy:] Some woman called the Bogey and they called her, they said to her, will this Mrs come up we want, we want to sing it's her
[Connie:] What oh they booked her
[Joy:] Poor devil, they got her on the stage and they said you know, when they
[Connie:] what, what have you done wrong tonight?
[Joy:] tonight she said I'm called a Bogey, so he said
[Connie:] Come on
[Joy:] oh have you, so he said well when you call a Bogey he said you get this so he, he give her a big pink elephant I think
[Connie:] Tortoise
[Joy:] tortoise thing with a lid on then he opened it and filled it with She says, I haven't got to drink that have I? She said oh yeah
[Norman:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] so of course he had a last slurp of and he spit it all over everywhere
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] and erm, and then every time the poor women went to get off stage he says oh Joan you can't go, come here, let's, he said we can't just give you that so he, he called her back and they bought give her a rabbit
[Connie:] He's done that
[Joy:] give her a rabbit
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] then he give her a, a, a chocolate easter egg, then he give her a bunny
[Connie:] Then he told her to
[Joy:] well
[Connie:] get off the stage then
[Joy:] then he give her a bottle of champa
[Connie:] then he told her, he kept calling her back
[Joy:] back, yeah, and he give her a bottle of champagne then he called her
[Connie:] then he called her Bogey
[Joy:] yeah, just the first one in their new opening cos it then we had the girls called Blue Flames didn't we?
[Connie:] And then he gave her a great, a great big bouquet didn't he?
[Joy:] Yeah, then we had the Blue Flames, the young girls who does the pom pom dancing and er
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] what's his name off the radio erm, the, the famous singer
[Connie:] Simon
[Joy:] no erm,
[Norman:] John Edwards
[Joy:] No
[Connie:] No
[Joy:] its on, on Northampton going gold records on the morn on Saturday morning, erm
[Norman:] Oh I know who you mean, er
[Joy:] oh, what's his name er
[Norman:] he's on, he's on er
[Joy:] he used to be a singer
[Connie:] I forget what's his name now
[Joy:] Yeah Northampton radio, yeah, so er we went at half past five, we didn't get home till half past ten
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER] oh
[Joy:] lovely evening weren't it?
[Connie:] really long way
[Joy:] It is a long way, yeah, yeah, but still, I mean if you don't have a win for a few weeks then you have a hundred pound it's ha
[Connie:] Yeah
[Norman:] help all round us. And my lucky bloody number one and three left me
[Joy:] Ooh well bugger me, who?
[Connie:] Say, he's won a couple of hundred
[Joy:] Yes
[Norman:] The woman next to me she won a hundred and then there was an old boy who'd won fifty, then the old boy won four hundred didn't he, he was a lucky boy...
[Joy:] Said she'd she'd never seen it so busy though
[Connie:] I had Elsie go on a Wednesday night
[Joy:] no every night now, every nights are getting busy now cos the
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] Sunday night's nearly a, nearly as good
[Connie:] Mm
[Norman:] Bloody hell.
[Connie:] shall pay some good money out on a Sunday night, it's more than weekday don't they?
[Joy:] Yeah
[Norman:] Yeah, I er it's what
[Joy:] It's a lovely club though innit?
[Connie:] It is lovely, yeah
[Joy:] Everything, I mean if you go in the afternoon and you go early you can have a lovely dinner for fifty P
[Norman:] Well the girl yeah that girl that came with us, she had, I mean as a rule I, I don't have
[Connie:] came with us
[Joy:] Oh did she?
[Norman:] Yeah
[Connie:] Yeah and, cos she lived next door to Celia
[Joy:] Oh does she?
[Connie:] down Queen's Street and er Celia's erm niece, you know who Celia is don't you?
[Norman:] Its the Italian job you know er
[Connie:] Jack
[Joy:] Jack
[Norman:] I er
[Connie:] Jack
[Norman:] the girl had it and it looked really nice in
[Connie:] Jack daughter
[Joy:] Oh is she?
[Norman:] Yeah
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] Oh, oh
[Norman:] daughter yeah
[Connie:] She works with
[Joy:] Oh
[Norman:] and er... now what I
[Joy:] so you went did you?
[Norman:] and er, I had this er pizza and
[Joy:] Oh yeah
[Norman:] and it looked very handsome, it, was bloody lovely and the woman across the way she had oh she had a
[Connie:] Spotted dick with custard
[Norman:] spotted dick with custard it looked bloody handsome
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] and the chips look lovely don't they
[Norman:] Yeah, they do, everything, and, and
[Joy:] and you could go Sunday and have a beer
[Norman:] You know, I had the best lager Carlsberg, it was only one thirty
[Joy:] yeah, yeah
[Norman:] and it's one eighty you know anywhere else
[Joy:] I know...
[Connie:] Yeah, well some of it you're getting a little bit cheaper
[speaker002:] ...
[Norman:] don't know what to do here, yeah
[Joy:] Yeah we enjoy it but it's just such a long drive
[Norman:] It's so nice and clean
[Connie:] It is a long way innit?
[speaker002:] ...
[Connie:] These friends from up north are coming for the weekend, so we're going out for the weekend
[Joy:] Going where?
[Connie:] Out
[Norman:] Out
[Joy:] Oh
[Connie:] Ely
[Norman:] Ely
[Joy:] Are you?
[Norman:] Mm
[Joy:] Ely, Cambridgeshire?
[Norman:] mm...
[Joy:] They phoned me from Mencap again this morning to see if I had any, had any lifting experience
[Connie:] Oh did they?
[Joy:] mm
[Connie:] oh... so it's set
[Norman:] [hiccup] pardon me.
[Joy:] Well I think it's just a matter of erm getting, getting in
[Connie:] Well it, it's like a lot of these places, they start you if they think you've had experience and all that, but it don't always work as well as them that ain't had experience.
[Joy:] Oh they, on the last interview I went to they said you no need to have had experience
[Connie:] Oh
[Joy:] we don't necessarily need you to have had it experience
[Connie:] oh
[Norman:] Hello my little girl, [hiccup] she was getting
[Connie:] It's a sense of er, well common sense innit? Not more than
[Joy:] Yeah well
[speaker002:] ...
[Norman:] Yeah
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] Ah, but I mean you do you ain't gonna get the experience, I phoned this job line that's been advertised on the telly this week and erm it's like second chance, you can go and have erm experience, get experience
[Connie:] I don't know if that's enough choice is it? I shouldn't think it is.
[Joy:] This is the eighteenth, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty, thirty three, thirty seven, yeah, forty two
[Connie:] Is it? Gosh on there.
[Norman:] Er, a bloke across the road from us, he got a job up there in Northampton radio, Thursday morning, he says they give, had no end of jobs on the radio
[Connie:] Oh
[Joy:] Do they?
[Connie:] yeah they do yeah they do, yeah
[Norman:] not
[Connie:] you know Ralph
[Joy:] yeah, Thursday morning, is it a certain morning, is it Thursday?
[Norman:] Thursday
[Connie:] I think so, yeah mm
[Norman:] Yeah Thursday morning, yeah
[Joy:] Mm, you'll wanna listen Thursday mornings
[Norman:] Oh you
[Connie:] There's quite a lot of things happening on there, we never have it on, but I have had it on and there now, they say so and so's got something for sale or
[Joy:] Oh yeah
[Connie:] you know
[Norman:] yeah
[Joy:] we have got that in Jersey
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] or somebody's looking for this or somebody's looking for that
[Connie:] That's right, yeah good idea isn't it?
[Joy:] Oh yeah...
[Connie:] Did they do your boiler?
[Joy:] No I'm fed up and I've got to have a new board, electrical board
[Connie:] Oh...
[Joy:] nine, nine, nine...
[Norman:] Three cards
[Joy:] three cards
[Connie:] I can't see, ten, ten, ten
[Joy:] that's what I've been waiting for that ten, ten do it again...
[Norman:] Oh
[Connie:] can't see the cards
[Joy:] that did you know?
[Connie:] is it?
[Norman:] Yeah, oh I'll split them up I think
[Joy:] That seeing you, asked us to go over ever so many time and I thought
[Norman:] yeah
[Joy:] well damn me, we will go this time.
[Connie:] Mm
[Norman:] Yeah I thoroughly enjoyed it I did.
[Joy:] It was like a five star hotel
[Norman:] Better than being in bed than that dirty
[Joy:] yeah well.
[Connie:] Were ever so well at first and then
[Norman:] Yeah
[Connie:] he moved right off
[Joy:] That's two lines all the way don't they?
[Connie:] Soon goes don't it?
[Joy:] Mm
[Norman:] Yeah, one
[Connie:] they had a lot there, you know.
[Norman:] good prizes really ain't there
[Joy:] I mean the afternoon's good, cos the play, pay good money in the afternoon as well
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] about a hundred and eighty pound innit?
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] that's two lines as well, I mean if, if you only have a tenner it pays for your afternoon out
[Connie:] well of course
[Joy:] it's just a long drive over there
[Connie:] two, one card
[Norman:] yes, er
[Connie:] yeah, two to one card
[Norman:] we had a hundred and twenty, were, were, and a, and a drink and that and then we spent fifteen quid didn't we?
[Joy:] Mm
[Connie:] mm
[Norman:] So it weren't bad really, we had three of each like, you know.
[Joy:] It's no dearer than going to the Ritz, it's just the journey
[Connie:] Just the petrol innit?
[Norman:] Yeah well I mean in
[Connie:] six on there, twelve
[Joy:] Six, twelve, three, this is, is nice if you can get out there, John's deal.
[Connie:] Yeah, yeah it's a nice afternoon out, I mean we had a lovely dinner when we went didn't we, first time we went
[Joy:] Yeah we had, we had
[Connie:] How much was that?
[Joy:] Sixty P
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] you have a soup and then you have erm
[Connie:] I thought you had a
[Joy:] what we had a nice, a nice thick slice of a nice thick slice of corn beef, carrots, cabbage and mash potatoes all in scoop full you know
[Connie:] mm
[Joy:] and gravy, then if you want spotted dick and er
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] coffee and that to follow
[Connie:] oh yes
[Joy:] but erm, I mean you can get everything there... on Sunday you've really no need to cook, cook at all, I mean you could go over there and have a meal for about two pounds fifty
[Connie:] oh
[Norman:] you don't have to wait with me,
[Joy:] oh no
[Norman:] that's a, that's the beauty of it
[Joy:] it's all computerised, it's lovely, I love it
[Connie:] yeah.
[Norman:] There, there'll... the old er hand things were playing up, those atmospherics and er the old boy
[Joy:] Oh yeah, mm
[Norman:] the old boy that does the telly bingo you know?
[Joy:] yeah
[Norman:] He was calling the, through his mike... pretty, pretty clear and all, I mean that linked one that come from Kettering and that was as plain as plain
[Connie:] plain, yeah
[Norman:] and that
[Connie:] hands, you know.
[Norman:] oh I know, I mean... they
[Joy:] There's all microphones in the roofs as well over there
[Connie:] mm
[Joy:] in the ceiling
[Connie:] don't matter where you sit
[Joy:] they have a cabaret every Saturday night
[Connie:] yeah
[Joy:] don't know who's on this week, the Baron Knights were on a fortnight ago weren't they?
[Norman:] Erm, it's erm
[Connie:] Renee and Renata
[Norman:] Renee and Renata
[Joy:] Is it?
[Connie:] Yeah
[Norman:] yeah
[Joy:] Hardly worth going then
[Connie:] Saturday night
[Joy:] oh
[Norman:] They're my old favourites, I used to love it
[Joy:] Yeah I like him, mm you don't pay nothing, we paid seventy P to see the Batchelors but it was you in, in, you know, your in
[Connie:] Yeah, entertainment
[Joy:] ad admission ticket
[Connie:] yeah, yeah
[Joy:] I mean you pay seventy P to go in anyway
[Connie:] Oh
[Joy:] then we had a glass of champagne, no a glass of sherry when we went in
[Connie:] Yeah didn't we?
[Joy:] and we had erm, and we had er a bottle of champagne on the table the Isle of plonk, you know, gala champagne
[Norman:] Where is this place then?
[Joy:] You know the corner, you know where the police station is in Wellingborough?
[Norman:] Yeah oh by the Odeon?
[Joy:] You go down to the, that's right
[Norman:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] yeah
[Norman:] well we went out there won't we, when it was the Odeon?
[Connie:] Don't know.
[Norman:] Yes you don't you remember me saying look at this bugger, when we used to go up, the Lerrick not the Odeon
[Joy:] Yeah, but I still
[Norman:] yeah the old Lerrick weren't it?
[Joy:] Mm
[Norman:] I said well bugger me...
[Joy:] I'd go day and night, I love it...
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] getting left behind mate
[Norman:] Yeah I'm afraid so, it's like being... under a bloody hand out, you know, erm, got a good hand yet it's queer
[Connie:] Eight, nine, ten, Jack
[Norman:] I knew I should of laid that bloody nine and
[Connie:] Jack
[Norman:] stupid person...
[Joy:] Who's laying on my feet, you're lovely and warm Ziggy, Ziggy, Ziggy
[Connie:] It gets dark
[Joy:] You've got to make something of their little lives ain't you?
[Norman:] Yeah
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] Only she's been out in the garden nearly all morning.
[Norman:] She went out shopping in the car with me [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Did she?
[Norman:] Yeah
[Connie:] She drove me crazy though...
[Joy:] She did
[Connie:] yeah all the washing flapping on the line er, a, I stripped me bed you see and washed everything and me thick duvet cover... if that, once goes on the dirt it's hell of a job
[Joy:] Mm
[Connie:] to
[Joy:] get it in again
[Connie:] and the wind would carry things away
[Norman:] [whispering] where are you going []?
[Connie:] I lost one, er a good towel and I thought well I've had that I bet it's over Larry's
[Norman:] Oh come on come here
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] I went upstairs and had a look and couldn't see and er
[Norman:] bloody hell, shuffling like a buggery here, I just can't make a bloody hand
[Connie:] and then I saw it over, another fence in, the next door
[Joy:] Oh
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER] and every time I ran out she run after me, getting me feet [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] oh fun innit?
[Connie:] oh dear
[Norman:] I've got to start
[Joy:] I've still packed up smoking
[Connie:] Good [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I ain't had one since Sunday night.
[Connie:] Oh jolly good
[Joy:] I said to mum I think off when we went bingo and I was smoking John started coughing and you think it's got to be these fags cos you don't normally cough
[Norman:] no
[Connie:] no
[Joy:] and he politely said no it ain't, so, but
[Connie:] I know well I was like this innit?
[Norman:] yeah
[Connie:] In the morning ain't we
[Norman:] yeah, it's a
[Connie:] after we've been up the club
[Norman:] we know we've had especially when you've been around it to, ooh
[Connie:] Frank is sitting near Dave cos he had his fag
[Joy:] Yeah, love
[Connie:] right under his nose, don't he?
[Joy:] Yeah
[Norman:] Oh look at that, would you bloody credit it, look
[Joy:] Ooh John, you'll want that one, worse than that our kid
[Norman:] pick the sod up, look I've just picked the bloody hand up there, you poxy thing
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] Oh that's it
[Norman:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Here
[Connie:] yeah...
[Joy:] fifteen, twenty four
[Norman:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] sacrifice what he got?
[Norman:] thirty, forty five, fifty, sixty,
[Connie:] Wendy heard any more about her car?
[Norman:] seventy, eighty, ninety, one hundred
[Joy:] Steve he's sold it
[Connie:] has he?
[Norman:] Who's that?
[Joy:] Ivy
[Norman:] Ivy
[Connie:] Oh
[Joy:] He's got it and sold it
[Connie:] has he?
[Joy:] he's took it and sold it, yeah
[Norman:] Who?
[Connie:] Robert
[Joy:] Robert's took Wendy's car and sold it, he pinched it Sunday afternoon
[Connie:] Oh, she was round Kim's erm
[Joy:] I haven't seen her since Monday
[Norman:] I, I, thought that's what happened.
[Joy:] Well it's ju I feel
[Connie:] I thought it would
[Joy:] awful now
[Connie:] she's got a bloody secret switch and a crook lock and
[Joy:] dear oh dear, and she said to me well they can get these crook locks, they've only got to a, they've only got to bend the steering wheel, I said will you give them another ten minutes they've got to make some banging to knock it round
[Norman:] Course they have.
[Joy:] She's, she just, it complacent you see, you've gotta you got to
[Connie:] Gonna be like you can't be like that, on things like that.
[Norman:] Stupid bugger.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Norman:] If I'd of been there I'd of flogged that a long while ago and got rid of it
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] I know, that's what I said, that's what we all said
[Connie:] he's got to come down and cross her though surely he does, he should
[Joy:] well
[Connie:] rotten sod
[Joy:] funny side, I can see him getting away with it
[Connie:] Well they do don't they?... They don't it?
[Joy:] Yeah...
[Norman:] He hadn't better get in my way when I'm going down there I'll string him, I'll make a bastard out of it
[Connie:] There laughing now
[Joy:] He did
[Connie:] yeah and now they feel adamant don't they?
[Norman:] Yeah
[Joy:] Yeah
[Connie:] They really do
[Joy:] yeah, you know he's got to have somebody behind him, cos he ain't man enough to do it on his own though
[Connie:] No... oh well Joy
[Norman:] No, cos he knows he'll piss off, I know Barry used to take the piss at him
[Connie:] Don't know Joy
[Norman:] he used to come round alright I'm adding up, even if I am adding up
[Connie:] I thought you said you've had enough [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] I'm adding up
[speaker002:] ...
[Norman:] where am I? Oh I'm
[Joy:] You're carrying the pan of three at the minute.
[Norman:] Didn't our cricketers do well ah?
[Joy:] Yeah, they done really well.
[Norman:] Considering half the buggers are
[Connie:] oh
[Joy:] Can't stand Ian Botham
[Connie:] Can't you?
[Joy:] No I hate him
[Connie:] No, I never used to like him,
[Joy:] no I hate him
[Connie:] but I do a bit more now, I think he's
[Norman:] I tell you what he does a bloody lot for
[Connie:] charities don't he?
[Joy:] Yeah, but I think all the things they said about him were true, I hate the man I do.
[Norman:] About what?
[Connie:] Taking drugs and having other women and all that sort of them I mean
[Norman:] Well they're all the same
[Joy:] That's a lie
[Connie:] I don't know
[Norman:] that's, they all say and do that bugger anyway don't they? But he's still a bloody fine sportsman and no more than that
[Connie:] did you see Elizabeth Taylor?
[Joy:] Yes I did
[Connie:] Didn't she look a the lies they said about her
[Norman:] Yeah
[Joy:] Yeah, luckily enough she's just been able enough to do her own thing ain't she?
[Connie:] Yeah, done well here she said, er...
[Joy:] Oh dear, I don't know what to chuck here Con
[Norman:] I don't care what you chuck
[Joy:] have an eight
[Norman:] an eight, mm, wrong colour, oh... when I wanted the bugger last time I... couldn't see it, could I?...
[Joy:] Something, ten here.
[Norman:] Now then if you give me one of these here I might
[Connie:] Sit down
[Joy:] Mm, ain't here much at all I got up at eight this morning when Rudy went and put all them towels out and erm, when I got up at ten it, they were all dry
[Connie:] Yeah, I done some wash this morning got it dry whilst it
[Joy:] yeah so did I
[Connie:] got it dried in no time at all, three sixes, but they're not to erm it went twice didn't it?
[Joy:] What?
[Connie:] That er
[Norman:] Yeah, I thought I make
[Connie:] twenty I make it
[Norman:] ace, no thank you... oh you little beauty, just what the doctor ordered
[Connie:] no six is erm, nine, ten, Jack, queen
[Norman:] I've played that and a seven... and ten
[Connie:] what about that?
[Norman:] oh yeah, I didn't see that idiot, right, I'll give you eight, that means I'm having
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER] Look at that, all out, I know that goes Joy
[Joy:] No I don't blame you... [yawn]
[Norman:] Is it eleven years today she
[Connie:] It's twelve years ago
[Joy:] Twelve years today is it?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Norman:] Twelve is it? Bloody hell
[Joy:] Good grief
[Connie:] they all were you?
[Joy:] mm
[Connie:] dancing, don't seem that then does it?
[Joy:] No
[Connie:] Don't seem like, cos somebody said erm... er, the date on the paper I thought that, that must of been twenty odd years since dad died then.
[speaker002:] Yeah it must be.
[Joy:] Can't you remember when he died granddad?
[speaker002:] I can't remember
[Connie:] Sixty six
[Joy:] Sixty six?
[Connie:] Mm
[Joy:] That's twenty six years ago
[speaker002:] Yeah must be
[Joy:] the year I met Rudy
[speaker002:] Is it?...
[Connie:] Yes it's nineteen sixty six and I'm going nineteen sixty seven, Mrs died nineteen sixty-seven and all
[speaker002:] No
[Connie:] and May died nineteen sixty eight or nine, they all died round about the same time
[Norman:] No, mind you mm...
[speaker002:] ...
[Norman:] [yawn] it's bed time
[Connie:] I know, I wish I had
[Joy:] better take the dog out
[Connie:] bottoms I suppose in a minute
[Norman:] eight, nine, ten, can't be bad
[Joy:] last card innit?...
[Norman:] it can't be that bad
[Joy:] Ooh, ooh
[Norman:] look at that
[Joy:] ah, ha, ha, ha, ha
[Norman:] whey up
[Joy:] Better than nothing.
[Connie:] Better than nothing...
[Joy:] You soon gobbled that up
[Connie:] My stomach's been bad
[Joy:] Have you tried them chips?
[Connie:] Can't eat chips, I was so hungry last night, I never had no food and when I went in
[Joy:] You should
[Connie:] and when I went in that lavatory, there's seven on there, when I went in that lavatory I, I
[Joy:] Are you alright John? Shall I do it?
[John:] No no, I'm finished now. It only wants milk and stirring. That's it now
[Joy:] Oh well you're a good stirrer.... We'll let you do the stirring. Where's dads?
[John:] That one there.
[Connie:] Is he in? Oh yes he's watching Errol Flynn isn't he?
[Ivy:] Oh. [LAUGHTER]
[John:] That's enough. we've got enough milk thank you.
[Joy:] Eh?
[Connie:] Said my, the milkman don't do bad. My, my ordinary milkman Stan, he's off
[John:] That's yours.
[Joy:] That's mine.
[Connie:] gone to for a fortnight.
[Ivy:] Ooh.
[Joy:] Which is Ivy's?
[Connie:] And the other one well he's America for a fortnight.
[Ivy:] Oh.
[Connie:] So they don't do so bloody bad do they?
[Ivy:] No....
[Joy:] Just have... want anything with this.
[Ivy:] No.
[Connie:] We'll have a bit of cake I think. Shall I fetch it?...
[Joy:] . Feel as stiff as a board.
[Ivy:] Er when Maureen met this girl and she found out she lived... in Manchester common. They got talking like, this is when they were on holiday. And she said you'll never guess Angie how we had two fellas tried to latch on to us.
[Connie:] Now do you want a bit of cake Ivy?
[Ivy:] Yes please. Just a little bit Con. But she said th... he... th he was just like erm... Rossiter.
[Connie:] Oh!
[Joy:] Oh.
[Ivy:] Oh and she said that he was revolting.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] Here you are John, bit of cake.
[Ivy:] And she said it didn't matter what you said or... you know, you couldn't put them off like.
[Connie:] Do you wanna bit of cake Joy?
[Joy:] No thanks.
[Ivy:] But they were awful. Couldn't have got much worse could
[Joy:] Yeah you could. Ken.
[Ivy:] Oh Christ!
[John:] Oh!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah [].
[Ivy:] Yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Oh my god yeah!
[Connie:] Did you take dad's tea for him?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] Take his cake did you?
[Joy:] Mm, no.
[Connie:] Oh.
[Joy:] How could I? You hadn't cut it [LAUGHTER] you soft sod. Oh my god [].
[John:] Wh wh wh who dealt?
[Joy:] I did. Your go.
[John:] You dealt?
[Joy:] No....
[John:] Four of spades....
[Ivy:] I'm sure that bloody corset did me more harm than good.
[John:] had it on long enough Ivy.
[Ivy:] Well I've had it on three days John.
[Connie:] What, all the time?
[Ivy:] No not, not in the evening.
[Connie:] Is it me to go?
[Ivy:] No, it's me....
[Joy:] Oh look! Who's here?
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Mm....
[John:] Ooh [LAUGHTER] I've just seen hand.
[Joy:] He's
[John:] Oh you little baby.
[Joy:] Have you got an'and
[John:] Mm.
[Connie:] Jack queen king.... Three aces.
[John:] that'll be okay....
[Connie:] A nice bit of cake.
[John:] Mm.
[Ivy:] Mm, lovely bit of cake....
[Connie:] Somebody didn't
[John:] Who's this off again?
[Ivy:] Dunno.
[John:] Oh bloody hell.
[Ivy:] Got several....
[Joy:] Gotta be lucky at something ain't you Ive?
[Ivy:] Mm.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] They can be lucky in lo love. You've gotta have something [LAUGHTER] out of bloody life []....
[Connie:] Just a minute.... Didn't like that one. What's erm, oh!...
[John:] Oh... dear....
[Joy:] Mhm [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] Got nothing my darling.
[Ivy:] I'm out.
[Joy:] Here you are. Hey.
[John:] Oh you ain't. You're a pain
[Ivy:] I am.
[John:] in the pissing arse you are.
[Ivy:] Well I'm sorry.
[Joy:] Where you going?
[John:] Bloody pain in the arse. Give her some change.
[Ivy:] Forty one....
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] I don't know.
[Ivy:] There's plenty of change.
[John:] Here you are.
[Joy:] Eighteen twenty eight thirty... thirty eight, forty five.
[Connie:] Fifty three, sixty two, sixty five, sixty eight.
[Ivy:] What do you want my darling? Your mum's got the biscuits.
[Connie:] Here you are.
[John:] L look at that
[Connie:] Oh.
[John:] and couldn't pick up the sodding two.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Thirty five.
[Joy:] I got both of your twos of diamonds.
[John:] Forty.
[Joy:] it's your deal.
[John:] Forty... fifty... sixty... seventy four... eighty... ninety five isn't it?
[Joy:] Pay up and shut up. [LAUGHTER]... Put up or shut up.... Where's my bubby?
[Ivy:] When you think Liz Taylor's had eight bloody husbands. If we did that we should be called prostitutes wouldn't we?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] Oh yeah. [LAUGHTER] I reckon we were born too early Ive [].
[Ivy:] Yeah.
[John:] Or lucky bastards, one of the two. [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Unlucky I would have said.
[Connie:] Yeah, bloody unlucky.
[Ivy:] Mm.
[Joy:] Yeah....
[John:] Well, I thought I'd got a bloody good hand there.... If you keep this up Connie... you're in er
[Joy:] Oh, I have got some doubles again.
[John:] Ooh.
[Joy:] God.
[John:] Gaw!
[Joy:] That's a double and that's a double and that's a double.
[John:] Look at that! Ooh. Gaw look, oh that's the same. What a shame.... Oh I've got no end of doubles.
[Joy:] You have!...
[John:] King. Gotta get rid of that.
[Joy:] Oh I've got a few more you'll like yet.
[John:] Oh look at that.... Right.
[Joy:] Bubby... Benjy... Benjy, wanna bikky?... Where is he?
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER] They all come [].
[Joy:] Benjy. Come here.... Hang on.
[John:] Hang on.
[Joy:] [singing] Hang on Sloopy... Sloopy hang on []
[John:] Thank you.... Look at that.
[Joy:] Oh come on. Play the white man.
[John:] And another one like that. doubles anyway.... You know our little dog, it stood at the door. It knew we were coming here you know, bless it.
[Connie:] Forty.
[Ivy:] Mm.
[John:] She stood at that door waiting
[Connie:] Jack on there.
[John:] with her head... to put her thing on and I said... you ain't gotta go.
[Connie:] Ah!
[John:] You've gotta go in the, in your box you have.
[Connie:] It ain't so bad when they can go out.
[Ivy:] Mm....
[John:] Never mind.
[Connie:] She wouldn't have hurt. They'd bloody play in here alright.
[John:] Jack
[Ivy:] She'd been carrying on outside all morning and
[John:] Oh yeah.
[Ivy:] so I thought well she
[Connie:] Does she go out on her own?
[Ivy:] Yeah. Out the back.
[Connie:] Does she?
[Ivy:] Mm. So I thought well she... she'll, she'll be
[John:] Ooh... two of the bastards out. I thought I was gonna... hand there.... Six seven eight.... Pardon me.
[Joy:] I've just took me blooming jacks.
[John:] ...
[Joy:] ... make.
[John:] Oh bloody hell.
[Connie:] Ten jack queen and three twos.
[John:] Ooh. Bloody hell.... Oh dear.
[Joy:] Here you are then. Benj.
[Ivy:] He's gone.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Benjy.
[John:] Two three four....
[Joy:] Benjy. Here you are.
[Ivy:] I didn't call you, my treasure. Your mummy called you....
[John:] Last card.
[Joy:] Eh!
[John:] Well I had two of the bastards. That's why you got it.
[Joy:] Mm!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Joy:] [singing] Here you are....
[Connie:] Jack is that over there? I've got it. Just picked it up look.
[John:] There. There.
[Joy:] Oh. Some folks get all the luck. You'd better lay it sensibly now.
[John:] Yes. Two threes or two twos.
[Joy:] Else you'll be in real trouble.
[John:] Two threes or two twos.
[Connie:] Five six seven eight.
[John:] Well I'm just just.
[Joy:] Oh.
[Connie:] Six over there isn't it? Oh no!
[Joy:] Ah!
[John:] No it's
[Connie:] Oh I'll that one out then.
[John:] No.
[Joy:] Oh you wicked sod.
[Connie:] No I'll.
[John:] No, you, you frit me to death Con. [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] [LAUGHTER] I thought you were gonna put that bastard down [].
[Connie:] got the
[Ivy:] I've just counted mine. Thought somebody was sure to be out.
[John:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Two three four six seven
[Connie:] a big'un.
[Joy:] I ain't got nothing. Hang on hang on hang on. Ten jack queen... five six seven eight nine
[Connie:] Go and see your mother.
[Joy:] Six... seven eight. Here you are...
[John:] That's, that's what I thought she was gonna put on there when she put [LAUGHTER] the six []
[Connie:] Fifty eight.
[Ivy:] No.
[Joy:] Fifty eight.
[Ivy:] Six, that's naughty. He's had that Joy.
[Joy:] Here you are.
[Connie:] He's like a bloody s... ferret under here. [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Thank you.
[Joy:] Oh dear me. Sixty eight seventy eighty eight
[Connie:] Three for me.
[Joy:] Sixty eight seventy eighty eight ninety eight. Hundred and two three... forty four... John out. Ivy, got yours. And it's... who's deal?
[Connie:] My deal....
[Joy:] Who won?
[John:] Jimmy....
[Ivy:] Don't they feed you up your house?
[Joy:] Getting ready for his dinner this time of night....
[Connie:] Them at the... have asked Barry if he could fit them a box over their electric meter.
[John:] Yeah.
[Ivy:] Put them up a what?
[John:] A box. You know around his
[Connie:] Er at where they have the ca the er
[Ivy:] Oh I don't know
[John:] About as big as that picture frame there.
[Connie:] So he s... he said to him how much will it be? Said oh that's alright, we've got some friends coming down this weekend, we'll come in for a bar snack. Alright? He said yeah, fine. I said you ought to have said Sunday lunch.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] Cos he's supplying the wood....
[John:] Well, you're doing alright now, you've got all the cards.
[Joy:] Have I gone silly?
[John:] Mm.
[Joy:] Oh no.
[John:] Yes they come out lovely they did
[Joy:] Mm.
[John:] that first few and then er, then you went all to pot.
[Joy:] I know.
[John:] Why?
[speaker002:] Mm.
[Joy:] Why?!
[John:] Why?
[Joy:] Mhm.
[John:] Why oh why? There you go mum....
[Joy:] We seem to live on tea and... more tea until the next cup of tea comes round don't we?
[Ivy:] Mm. Yeah....
[Connie:] Dee she do tea.
[Ivy:] Who?
[John:] Dee.
[Connie:] Dee.
[Ivy:] Does she?
[John:] Yeah she's fond of her tea....
[Ivy:] That is Ben's daughter lives at erm... whatever Treetops. Yeah I
[Connie:] Oh yeah.
[Ivy:] phoned her yesterday.
[Connie:] Oh.
[Ivy:] I said... I says Mrs speaking
[John:] Is that my three? Yes.
[Ivy:] and said er... I said who am I speaking to. She said oh she said, Ben's daughter.
[Connie:] Oh.
[Ivy:] Elaine. I said oh... I said well we'll be very pleased to come if we're both still alive then. I said you know we're Ben's age as well. Said oh dear.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER] Mm.... I ought to be going there anyway.
[Ivy:] Eh?
[Connie:] I ought to be going there.
[Ivy:] Yeah. Wish you were cos you could go in my old man's place....
[Connie:] Poor old Ben. He's been a good friend to me during the war when we
[Ivy:] Yeah. Been good to me and all, through my life.
[Connie:] Mm. Well and before the war. Er er if ever anybody needed... doing anything it was always Ben weren't it?
[Ivy:] Yeah. Nice old boy, Ben.
[Connie:] Mm.
[John:] Oh dear.
[Connie:] Do you remember when I come home from er Welwyn and I, I had to go to court?
[John:] Oh it's over there.
[Connie:] And he came over and took me didn't he?
[Ivy:] Yeah....
[Connie:] A friend in need is a friend indeed....
[John:] I get mixed up with them. There's Ben, Leonard...
[Ivy:] Matthew's dead. Sam's dead.
[John:] Oh yeah Sammy. Yeah that's the one I used to get mixed up with.
[Ivy:] Sam's dead. Died. Dot died, his wife. Died in childbirth.
[Connie:] Who?
[Ivy:] Dot.
[Connie:] Oh, Sam's wife?
[Ivy:] Mm.
[Connie:] Really?...
[Ivy:] Ought to have seen them walking down North Road.
[Connie:] Mm....
[Joy:] Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
[Ivy:] Longed for a baby didn't she? Then when she had one
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Ivy:] she died. I remember her having it.
[Connie:] Mm....
[Joy:] There were no need for that....
[John:] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear.
[Joy:] You must have something, surely....
[John:] Oh Christ. I keep forgetting they've put that... bloody thing down.
[Joy:] I'd like that, but it's no good to me.
[John:] I'm gonna put that bugger on before I forget it again.
[Joy:] What's that?
[John:] This bastard here. That's three times that's gone round.
[Ivy:] Oo er. Look. [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Hang on I've had a I've had a fitter there.
[John:] You've got a shitter.
[Joy:] I'd better, I'd better put that... that down as that. Nine then
[John:] Jack.
[Joy:] jack.
[John:] Yeah....
[Joy:] No... what have I got? What have I got? Yeah I've got a jack under there. That's right.
[John:] That's right, yeah.
[Joy:] That's right, and three kings. Now I've got nine and eight.... And then out.... Who's that sneezing?
[Ivy:] Poor old dog.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Seven on there. That bloody three before I forget it again.
[Joy:] A bloody three before I forget it.
[John:] Ah. Now then.
[Joy:] Hello! Hello Benjy....
[Ivy:] Mm. Lovely tea.
[Joy:] Yeah....
[John:] That's bloody nice. And that. Oh my god, look at that. That's put the mockers on that, you've took them both.... Mm. Don't know what to do.......
[Joy:] Yeah you're right. She'll be sightseeing again....
[Connie:] A nine.
[John:] Be seeing a pigging... card come now, now I've split them up.... You little sod! Three. How about that? Six.
[Joy:] Aha. Don't you want the other one?
[John:] Ask her.
[Joy:] Did you?
[John:] Yeah.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Ivy:] You're saucy....
[Joy:] Oh I thought you'd get it. I had the other one. Hundred and four.
[Connie:] Twelve Joy.
[Joy:] Twelve? Six... fifty six.
[Ivy:] Sixteen.
[Joy:] So fifty eight sixty eight seventy four. Johnny? No, out....
[John:] It's my deal isn't it?
[Joy:] Yeah, your deal.... These chairs are hard.
[Connie:] Mm. They are hard aren't they?... When I win that national I shall buy new table and er
[Joy:] Oy
[Connie:] soft chairs. [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Joy:] We ain't had much lately at bingo have we?
[Connie:] No. Had none hardly.
[Ivy:] Well I think it comes and goes with everybody don't it?
[Connie:] Don't know.
[Joy:] My mate goes five times a week and she ain't had nothing for over twelve months.
[Ivy:] No.
[Joy:] Nearly hundred pound a week she spends on it.
[Connie:] Coo! Oh dear.
[Joy:] Mm....
[John:] There you go. How about that for a?
[Joy:] That's rubbish.... I tell you what, they ought to hang the bloke that dealt these.
[John:] Yeah, he ought to be hung. And drawn and quartered I think.... Ooh bloody hell John.... Do any better... don't bother dealing. [hiccup] Pardon me... for being so rude.... Oh dear oh dear, John....
[Connie:] How's Wynn?
[Ivy:] Ever so poorly.
[Connie:] Is she?
[Joy:] She's been going for that ra... is it radium?
[Ivy:] Is she going?
[Joy:] Mm.... Yeah....
[John:] Oh!
[Joy:] She's on morphine anyway....
[Ivy:] Poor old Wynn.
[Connie:] Yeah, sounds er
[Joy:] They told, Diane told me the other night though, she's had three years that she shouldn't have had. She's been living on borrowed time for a long while.
[Connie:] ... Hello! Hello Benjy, how are you doing? Where's your dad?... Where's your dad? He upstairs when we went in last night.
[Ivy:] Did he?
[Joy:] Straight on the bed.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Rudy was shattered, he'd been up f since four the morning before.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] I don't know how he keeps going you know.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] Got a lot of erm... he's got a lot of er... erm energy.
[John:] Energy.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Mm.... Two three four five six...
[John:] How are you doing?... Now then John. With a bit of luck you might go down this time.... Oh bloody hell.... Yes I thought you would.
[Connie:] Suppose he's had good training for that while he were playing. Nightclubs and that. Different hours you see.
[Joy:] Mm. Oh yeah he's
[Connie:] You take it all in your stride then don't you?
[Joy:] Oh yeah.
[Connie:] You seem to.
[John:] I don't know this one dear god.
[Joy:] Mhm.... England's last hope just gone....
[John:] .
[Joy:] Mm.... we shan't get them out now.... Unless I get a joker. [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Nine, oh dear.... Snap.
[Joy:] Snap.... No good getting down now I'm only out er got hundred and four. Might as well go out big mightn't we?
[Connie:] Mm.
[John:] Ninety five I'm out so that's fifty five. Oh my god, let me have a look.... Oh would you believe it, I want one card twice here.
[Joy:] Do you?
[John:] Yeah.... Oh that's knackered it....
[Joy:] Well... I think I'd better... don't want none of these burpers so... might as well get rid of them.
[John:] [yawn] Oh dear... oh dear. Don't want them. Put a seven on there.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]...
[John:] Oh and that went didn't it? Never mind, I've got six cards.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Oh yeah.
[John:] Stupid person.
[Connie:] I'm waiting for it to go down and all, I've got the eight.
[John:] Why didn't you tell me then?
[Joy:] Ooh three two jokers.
[Connie:] Well I thought you didn't wanna go below a certain amount.
[John:] Oh.
[Ivy:] Last card.
[Joy:] That gives me eight. [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Oh... I've got
[Joy:] That's a fitter and that's a fitter... so I might as well
[Connie:] Is that thing still on?
[John:] Mm it is.
[Joy:] What?
[Connie:] That thing. Oh Christ. That's still on.
[Ivy:] Is it?
[Connie:] Mm. [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Say they'll learn something from this lot.
[Ivy:] Mm.
[Connie:] They'll er they'll wonder what the hell we're playing I expect....
[John:] Oh strewth....
[Joy:] I know.
[John:] [singing] I don't know []
[Joy:] I ain't seen any of these.
[John:] [singing] what I'd do without you []... Oh my
[Joy:] Oh that'd be better.
[John:] Que que que and te te te
[Joy:] te te te... Eight.
[John:] Eight. Yeah.
[Joy:] Three.
[John:] Yeah.
[Joy:] ...
[John:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] Yeah. That's what
[John:] Right. One more to go.... Drat!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] No I just suddenly thought....
[John:] Oh! I just got shot of that king.
[Joy:] Mm.
[John:] Never mind. I'll put me other two on there..... You said I was short didn't you?...
[Joy:] Blooming aces.
[John:] Silly billy.... You've just had that one.
[Connie:] seven....
[John:] that one. Thump thump thump.
[Joy:] There was a method in my madness.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Oh yeah. [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] Ooh pardon me....
[John:] [singing] Come on kid... hit me with a left and a right []
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Connie:] This don't go does it?
[Ivy:] No.
[Joy:] No, but that one does. Seven
[John:] Oh.
[Joy:] and a five.
[Connie:] Ooh two.
[Joy:] Two?
[Connie:] Two
[Ivy:] Twenty eight.
[Connie:] fifty eight... twen seventy four ninety four hundred and two... six?
[John:] Six, yeah.
[Joy:] Hundred and one...
[Connie:] My deal innit?
[John:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Is it?
[John:] I guess so.
[Joy:] Or John's?
[John:] No, I just dealt them didn't I?
[Joy:] Did you deal that...
[John:] Mm.
[Joy:] rubbish, yes.
[John:] Didn't you see the... load of crap he got?...
[Joy:] [singing]
[John:] [singing] Once in a while... when you're lonely []
[Connie:] a bit
[Joy:] Did you see that chap playing Misty this morning on the piano?... Played it lovely.
[Connie:] What, on the telly?
[Joy:] Mm.
[Connie:] No I don't watch telly any more. I'd like to but I can never watch any more, he's always got the
[Joy:] Well I work while it's on.
[Connie:] C B on and
[Joy:] If I put me country and western records on I just done and dance with the dog all morning. I don't do nothing.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] He goes...
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I swing him round, his head goes...
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I say dance with mum. Poor little devil. I drag him round.
[Ivy:] I'd dance with my dog but he's so bloody heavy though.
[John:] Th th that's a good programme on the light from about half past nine till twelve, you know.
[Joy:] On the light programme?
[John:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Which one's that? Er it's... what's his name?
[Connie:] B B C two.
[Joy:] Yeah. B B C two.
[Connie:] I think that's thirteen, is it?
[John:] Well I dunno, two four six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen....
[Joy:] Fourteen. Just take the top one off.
[John:] Two four six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen....
[Connie:] Twelve.
[John:] Why the hell have you got this
[Joy:] Thirteen.
[John:] pigging joker?... Stop your chops and get on with your dealing.
[Joy:] Come on Dolly, do your dealing....
[Connie:] Did you deal them all?
[John:] What's his bloody name? He u used
[Ivy:] I did.
[John:] to do early morning show. He took over....
[Connie:] Er
[John:] Er th I er
[Connie:] Da Davison? Jamieson?
[Ivy:] No er
[John:] He's got a beard.... Oh dear
[Connie:] Ken
[Ivy:] On erm
[John:] Ken... yeah that's it.
[Connie:] Bruce?
[Ivy:] Bruce, yeah.
[John:] That's it. Yeah. I like him.
[Connie:] Oh I used to listen to that for ages.
[Ivy:] Mm.
[John:] I like him I do. He, he has some lovely records. Good, good choice, you know?
[Ivy:] I listen to
[Joy:] Oh [LAUGHTER] you sound like N N Norman Wisdom [].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Sounded just like Norman Wisdom [].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] Or that bloke at the club... making his mouth go... go funny
[John:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh that
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] hey that's, that bloody bloke who at the club that you []
[Joy:] Norman Collier?
[John:] No that bloke that comes up there.
[Connie:] Have you been John?
[John:] No, I'll chuck away. Hang on.
[Joy:] Who's that?
[John:] Him that... [LAUGHTER] him that calls on the bloody bingo []. He says... all the frees, firty free.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[John:] And
[Connie:] Who is that? Where's that at?
[Joy:] Is he, is
[John:] where, at the Beacon And he's
[Connie:] Oh!
[Norman:] free and... four, firty four. [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] He he's a spastic though isn't he?
[Ivy:] I don't know.
[John:] Is he? Oh, I didn't know.
[Joy:] I think one of them's in a wheelchair.
[Connie:] Oh well, you shouldn't make fun.
[John:] Well I never see him. I well I er i it was just... he he sounded like a ponce to me.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] You know, and he says... sisth and two, sisthy two. Oh bloody hell.
[Connie:] Well I admire him if he's...
[John:] Well he... he...
[Joy:] Yeah I'm sure he's erm...
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] spastic.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] I saw a wheelchair there one day and I know
[Connie:] Oh.
[Joy:] they were saying... they were gonna introduce spastic people
[Connie:] oh.
[Joy:] into the club.
[Connie:] Well, jolly good.
[Joy:] I know one night that we were there and it said... Mr is upstairs
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] and I thought they were gonna say [LAUGHTER] beam them up Scottie [].
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Then all of a sudden the whole fire alarm went ee oo ee oo ee oo
[speaker002:] Ooh
[Joy:] all the way round the room. You'd never heard nothing... And everyone
[Connie:] And all the [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] run to a different door.
[Connie:] And all the all the boys run he said it's just it's just to tell you... just to show you... how efficient that er our callers would be in a fire.
[Ivy:] Oh. Yeah?...
[Joy:] Yeah I'm gonna have, sod it... I'm
[John:] Don't blame you.... Ooh you bugger.... Thought I were gonna get that one.
[Joy:] Oh, you can have that one.
[John:] No I've got it. Eight jack. Oh my gawd. That's alright. What are you t moaning about John.
[Joy:] What else do you want in love?
[John:] Eight nine ten jack, ooh! A que
[Joy:] Que
[John:] A que.... And eight, eight of... yeah....
[Joy:] Thought we might see Pam today. She finishes work at half past er twelve on a Friday.
[Connie:] though.
[Ivy:] No I suppose they have plenty to do.
[Joy:] She's always working. Pam don't stop working.
[Connie:] No.
[Ivy:] No I expect she's got the club tomorrow morning. She didn't have it
[Connie:] Oh has she?
[Ivy:] last week so she'll be... no doubt be there this week.
[Connie:] Mm.... Three cards....
[Joy:] [singing]
[John:] You are a
[Ivy:] Oh that would have gone wouldn't it?...
[Connie:] Does she do it every weekend?
[Ivy:] No, not every weekend. They didn't do it last weekend.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Ivy:] They did, they did it in the evening but they're not in the, didn't do it the morning.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] I'm gonna put that one on to see if I can get me score down.
[John:] Well I've just chucked me bloody jack.
[Joy:] Well that's a shame isn't it?
[John:] swine.
[Connie:] Mm.
[John:] Oh I don't care though. Look at that.
[Joy:] Don't care.
[John:] And look at that.
[Joy:] Seventeen.
[Ivy:] Thirteen.
[Joy:] Two hundred and twenty one. Thirteen? Hundred and fifteen. John out.... Oh fifteen, twenty five, thirty four, forty one, forty seven, fifty, fifty six, sixty six
[Ivy:] Your deal Con.
[Joy:] ninety eight. Think you're gone. Two eights are sixteen. Yeah, you're gone. Just.
[Ivy:] Got them, picked them jacks straight up, never picked nothing else up. N not a thing.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] You're in it with me. Hundred and twenty one.... Hundred and fifteen, hundred and one. Who won?
[John:] Jimmy. [cough]...
[Connie:] Take the money out of my purse.
[Joy:] What for?
[Connie:] If I'm in.
[Joy:] If I'm in?...
[Ivy:] You're on to me tonight, you are.
[Joy:] Who?
[Ivy:] This silly sod I've got here. [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... [singing]
[John:] [belch] Pardon me.... [belch] Ooh dear.
[Joy:] Oh! Bless you.
[John:] No.
[Joy:] Jeez!
[John:] No, I've got one... but I don't want another one. Oh my god, look at that.
[Joy:] That's no good. Oh I don't know, if that one come up it would be, oh... it's not now.... We had a lovely singsong last night, didn't we mum?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Ivy:] Mm....
[John:] Who went?... You and...?
[Joy:] Erm... me and mum and... er... just me and mother.
[John:] Oh.... Three......
[Joy:] Mother!... Do with that one bad.
[John:] [yawn]
[Joy:] Oh I can't sling that now, then I'd have two John.
[John:] Wrong one.
[Joy:] She always slings my card just at the wrong time....
[John:] One too many short again John....
[Joy:] I might as well pack this hand up. You're slinging all my cards.
[Connie:] Yeah. Did that to me last time. I never got nothing. Picked three jacks up hoping there'd be a joker.
[John:] Oh you awkward sod. Picking up what.
[Joy:] Well I ain't. She's slinging everything I wa want and can't get nothing. Picked it up....
[Connie:] Just picked a joker up.
[Joy:] Well you're just bloody lucky.
[Connie:] Mm, you're joking of course....
[John:] I want that.
[Ivy:] Ooh pardon me.
[John:] [LAUGHTER]... That's three bloody cards on the trot I've picked up which I'm.... Seven.
[Ivy:] Four five six seven eight....
[Joy:] [singing]
[John:] [singing] Have I told you lately that I love you []. That's a king is it? No I ain't got that one. Wrong one. Oh I've got that bugger now.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]...
[John:] [whistling] No I didn't. clubs....... Jesus wept. Jack follow the leader.... [whistling]... two three four.
[Joy:] Got nothing. And that's no good now. That's
[John:] Well look at that bugger.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] She's putting all my buggers I want.
[Connie:] Last card.
[John:] Little demon. Come on, your last chance now for your uncle John....
[Joy:] Wondering what to chuck you John. There you are, how about that one?...
[Connie:] Jack.
[John:] Wrong colour.
[Joy:] Is it?
[John:] Mm.... Oh Jesus wept! I've just had you....
[Connie:] That's how it goes.
[John:] I know that. It's no bloody good if you can't get down.
[Ivy:] Mm. I wish I hadn't changed me hand now....
[John:] Oh dear oh dear.
[Ivy:] got that four look. You're out John.
[John:] . Chuck that bugger over here.. Can't make four.
[Joy:] Oh I've just got three. That don't fit. That don't fit.
[Connie:] Ain't you down yet?
[John:] Am I buggery. Don't look like
[Joy:] I've just got nothing.
[John:] getting down. Not with this bleeding hand.
[Joy:] Me neither John. Me neither.
[John:] Look at that. Let's have a count up. Fifteen
[Joy:] All my cards are gone.
[John:] Twenty six thirty pigging
[Joy:] I shall die with these in me hand.
[John:] Ah look at that!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Well! Three twenties I think they're both gone but I'm not too sure.
[John:] and a pigging two. Would you credit it?... Well.... Pay up John and look pleasant.... It must come soon. One of these buggers must.
[Joy:] Oh that's that king....
[John:] [sigh] Oh dear.... Now I might get a king. Oh no!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Would you bloody credit it? Eh? Three twos and two twos. Three threes and two twos.
[Joy:] I can't remember whether this one's gone.
[John:] I reckon.
[Connie:] ?
[Joy:] No.
[John:] No they're gone. I've got the bugger here. Give me it....
[Joy:] That don't make no difference.
[John:] Oh I only want one pigging card to make forty.
[Joy:] Seven.
[John:] No. bugger.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] I've you all up and
[John:] There. Would you bloody credit it?
[Connie:] Not that two again?
[John:] That bastard.
[Joy:] Ah! That's the one I wanted.
[John:] Look at that. bloody
[Joy:] I know.
[Connie:] That's how it goes.
[John:] well I ain't got... I ain't got a sodding hand. Oh I'm gonna split these bastards.... You'll see the bleeding thing come now.... Would you bloody credit it, eh? I bet it comes.
[Connie:] King of hearts John.
[John:] Yeah that's another bugger bit the dust.
[Joy:] No.
[Ivy:] Well, you wouldn't believe it would you?
[Joy:] I've got three nines.
[Ivy:] Ha.
[Joy:] That's all I've got.
[John:] Look at that.
[Connie:] I had them three jacks. Picked them all up when I bought. Never got another thing.
[Joy:] I've got nothing else look.
[John:] Well would you credit it!
[Joy:] They're gone. I think they're both gone. I think you slung them both.
[Connie:] Yeah that's the trouble innit?
[John:] Any bastard jack bar that one.
[Connie:] I've got a jack and all.
[John:] Gaw Jesus
[Joy:] They'll have to wait for us to get out.
[John:] Yeah.
[speaker002:] [sigh]
[John:] I reckon you want the same as me mate.
[Joy:] Do you?
[John:] Mm.... That's why we can't get down.
[Joy:] I've just split me sevens up and bloody seven come.
[John:] Yeah I've just split me nines up and buggers oh no
[Joy:] That's a that's a fitter.
[John:] I don't want that bastard.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] [LAUGHTER] Seven. No.
[Joy:] Don't know why I'm bothering.
[John:] Oh Jesus!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Flaming bloody hell.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER] religious [].
[John:] Gaw gee whiz.
[Joy:] Well.
[John:] I don't believe it. All that bloody crap I've had.
[Joy:] Nine ten jack. Nine ten king. None of them fit. None of them fit.
[John:] Where's all them pigging
[Joy:] I don't I don't believe this.
[John:] big'uns gone to.
[Joy:] Well I took three sevens out.
[John:] Yeah.
[Joy:] I thought well I'll sling me sevens out, keep me sixes.
[John:] Oh Christ. Look at that.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah they're all following each other round []. What do you want John? I'll try and help you.
[Connie:] Well
[John:] I've split my bloody
[Ivy:] That's and all.
[John:] I know but I can't keep can I?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] No.
[John:] I've gotta make something.
[Joy:] Well. I don't know what I'll get on. I dunno whether I'm gonna make a hand out of.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] I I tell you one thing, once I go down I I'm out. I I just can't make bloody forty.
[Joy:] I can't believe it.
[John:] Stupid person.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Four sixes, twenty four... twenty four twenty eight twenty nine thirty one thirty bloody nine. Would you credit... and I got the bastard. [LAUGHTER] Oh now what am I gonna do?
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Twenty four twenty eight twenty nine thirty
[Joy:] going over we stand a chance. Hey that's that king there. Come on, get him in.
[Ivy:] I know. I've gotta get him in in a minute.
[John:] Oh would you credit it eh? That bugger goes and that one goes. I can't chuck any away.
[Joy:] I know. I'm a bit li I'm like that at the minute.
[Connie:] Is it for me to go?
[Ivy:] No.
[John:] No. I've got to chuck away yet.
[Connie:] Oh.
[John:] I don't know what to chuck though. Oh some bugger's put that on now haven't they? I'll chuck that one then.... Yeah. If only I could make forty. I could go down. Right out.
[Joy:] Oh I don't believe it. Oh I don't believe here they come John.
[John:] Oh dear.
[Joy:] Oh here they come.
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Buggered I get a bugger. [shouting] No! I []
[Joy:] Have you got one? [LAUGHTER]
[John:] bugger I've got. You bastard.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Oh my god [].
[John:] Would you bloody well believe it.
[Joy:] They'll have to let us down in a minute.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER] It's a seven Con [].
[Joy:] Six seven eight... I've gotta do it that, like that. Cos I've got that king... in case John'll pick it up.
[John:] He won't. Oh my god.
[Connie:] Three aces. All that time.
[John:] Yeah. No wonder I couldn't get a bleeding ace.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[John:] She'd got the buggers.
[Joy:] Three on there. I expect it's a waste of time though....
[John:] Oh look at that. Any bastard bar that ten.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Would you credit it eh?
[Joy:] Wonder why I bothered.
[John:] Oh look at that bastard. Any nine bar that bugger.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Do you want this one?
[John:] No.
[Joy:] Oh I'll sling in that one.
[John:] No. I'm ch I'm splitting now. I've got seven.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] I thought you'd sat with that two Con?
[Connie:] I know I chucked it away.
[Ivy:] Oh, well you s silly woman.
[Connie:] Well I thought the three had gone.
[John:] I've got them two buggers!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]...
[John:] Gaw, bloody hell.... Split them up. Took the ace away. Bloody Christ almighty. Oh I don't believe this bugger. I don't honestly.
[Connie:] What five's needed, the spade?
[Joy:] Spade.
[Ivy:] Spade
[John:] There's only one card will get me down.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Haven't I got it?
[John:] No.... No.... No it's gotta be... one of them.
[Connie:] These cards are well mixed up this time aren't they?
[Joy:] Yeah th but they're all... and I've got nothing to help you John....
[John:] Oh look at that bastard.
[Ivy:] Oh jack. That's what I've just had.
[John:] I want a bloody jack but I can't pick the right bugger.
[Connie:] Seven now. I had that eight last time.
[Joy:] No.
[Ivy:] No.
[John:] I wanna jack but it's still
[Connie:] Seven on there.
[Joy:] Ah! thank god for that.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Just look at that bloody lot. You couldn't make forty.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] Two. Two for me.
[John:] Would you believe that?
[Joy:] Two? Hundred and seventeen. Mother? You're out. Eighteen, twenty one, thirty one, thirty nine.
[John:] Frigging queen. Look at that was coming next time.
[Ivy:] Your deal Con.
[Connie:] No, I dealt them.
[John:] Bloody hell.
[Connie:] It's Joy's deal.
[John:] Sod it.
[Ivy:] I dealt them.
[Connie:] No you never. I dealt them.
[Ivy:] I did cos I dealt fourteen and I had to
[Connie:] No I d I dealt them.
[John:] No you didn't.
[Joy:] No, no
[Connie:] I dealt them.
[Joy:] No
[Connie:] I dealt them. I know I did.
[Joy:] Yeah you did. I think you did. Right, hundred and thirty nine John. Two hundred and seventeen. Hundred and twenty one. And I'm hundred and thirty nine. Who won?
[Connie:] I did.
[John:] Do you fancy that? With all them bloody fitters. Thirty bloody nine. I couldn't get a pigging... every ja
[Ivy:] No. What did you want?
[John:] I wanted er the jack of spades... the king of hearts or a ace of diamonds.
[Ivy:] And you kept picking the jacks, the red jacks?
[John:] Yeah.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I had a load of rubbish and all.
[John:] I I I I finished up with four sixes... and a three four five
[Joy:] You you couldn't think
[John:] six of clubs.
[Joy:] you could possibly go all that way and not pick a hand up that would make you something.
[Connie:] No.
[John:] Thirty nine. Everything that... she chucked away.
[Joy:] I was splitting my hand up in the end cos they were gone.
[John:] I wanted to but I couldn't pick them up cos I hadn't got enough.
[Joy:] And I couldn't get out cos I hadn't got a hand.
[John:] And all the other buggers went. The swinehund [LAUGHTER].... Oh never mind boy. Worst things happen at sea.
[speaker002:] Ooh!
[John:] Look at that. Would you believe it now? Look.
[Joy:] Oh yeah.
[Ivy:] Is that the one you wanted?
[John:] ace of diamonds yeah. Stupid
[Joy:] Oh well I [LAUGHTER] I think I'm gonna get a long way [].
[John:] Jesus.
[Joy:] That's the first four. I don't think I dare look any further. Oh I've got another one now!
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] [LAUGHTER] Who dealt these?
[Joy:] I....
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[John:] Oh aye.
[Joy:] Aye said the fly.
[John:] Here's my little
[Joy:] I said cos I shall phone the bank first thing Monday and I shall say right, he's took the car so you can run to him for the money cos you'll be getting none out of me.... Then I had a letter from the social... security. They've been paying me thirty nine pound sixty haven't they? And I've been, been to fifty five pound... seventy five every week.
[Wendy:] Oh. So you'll get a bit back then?
[Joy:] Yeah.... So I think
[Wendy:] ... it's better
[Joy:] Well they're on about backdating it to the third. But if I write back and say I haven't actually had any wages since the seventeenth of January... I might get it backdated from then.... What's that?...
[Wendy:] Did do what he said he was gonna do then?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Oh. Have you had any repercussions?
[Penny:] Yeah they went to work in it the next day.
[Wendy:] Did they?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] What, with all the tyres done?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] How'd they get there?
[Penny:] Well I dunno. Michael said it were there at... erm five to twelve, when he... erm quarter past twelve when he come out of work they got in it. But he don't know what time they got there cos he don't work in that warehouse. So he was gonna ask if they got in late because... they could have had time to get it repaired.
[Wendy:] Oh I see.
[Joy:] Did mum tell you we went to see the Bachelors last night?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Had a good night didn't we?
[Connie:] Yeah, lovely. Had a bottle of champers between us.
[Joy:] Sherry and champers.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Wonder we weren't er... legless.
[Connie:] Did you erm... could you have drove on that what you drunk alright?
[Joy:] Yeah. I had some chips that's why I was
[Connie:] Only see what's her name Barbara said oh I daren't drink any, I'm driving. I never thought, well you and John were drinking... driving....
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Where do you get this from then?
[Joy:] A lady come up yesterday to see if I would do it. It's for that. And that's
[Penny:] How long you got it for?
[Joy:] Seven days.
[Penny:] Have you?...
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] So... What are you fighting for now, mm?... [smacking noise] Stop it!
[Tracey:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Oh his face, look []....
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Tracey:] [LAUGHTER] Oh Benjy did you get... he's still []...
[speaker002:] Benjy. Here.
[Tracey:] No I ain't. I daren't. [LAUGHTER] It must be awful trying to scratch and not be able to reach it [].
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]...
[Tracey:] Is that nice?... [LAUGHTER] Benjy. Benjy. What is she doing to you? [LAUGHTER].
[Joy:] It's all day and all night though. Ridiculous.
[Tracey:] He's, he must be allergic to something though.
[Joy:] Allergic? Yeah my hand!
[Tracey:] What shampoo did you wash him in?
[Joy:] The normal. What I always wash him in.
[Tracey:] It ain't that is it? You don't reckon?... Perhaps he's allergic to cat fleas you know?
[Joy:] Mm.
[Tracey:] He, you wanna see Max's back today. He's chewed it, literally chewed all his back hasn't he? What are you doing?
[speaker002:] Spotty nose. What's this? Trace.
[Tracey:] What?
[speaker002:] Look.
[Tracey:] Mhm.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Tracey:] What's he doing then?... What are you looking for? Are you looking for more milk?... [baby crying in background]
[Joy:] He can't be hungry....
[Tracey:] He's looking for something.... Tried him with anything the other day when he were like this. Gave him more
[Joy:] Perhaps he wants a drink now....
[speaker002:] I gave Danny a bed bath yesterday.
[Joy:] A bed bath? Why?
[speaker002:] Three mornings on the trot I've been up there and I've walked in the front door and I can hear him downstairs snoring, still in bed. I said to him the other morning I said do that again I said look, I'll get you out of bed. I said I'll give you a bed bath. And I went in his bedroom and there he was... snoring away. So I... run the cold tap, got a cupful of water in me hand and went ooosh! Oh [LAUGHTER] he. He soon [].
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] He said I remembered last night he said if I was in bed I was gonna get wet.... He said I thought someone was here he said cos I could smell fag smoke. He said I thought someone was here....
[Tracey:] Penny's finished work now hasn't she?
[speaker002:] Yeah....
[Tracey:] Yeah we're gonna try this erm... I'm gonna try this thing. See if we can get in to some more... adult edu education while we're off. It's ridiculous.
[speaker002:] What name did me and Danny come up with?... mum and Pam for... driving school? Oh, Hinge and Bracket Driving Academy was it?
[Joy:] You cheeky devil!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER] It was Danny that thought of it, Hinge and Bracket Driving Academy [].
[Joy:] be a good'un
[speaker002:] Yeah Hinge and Bracket.
[Tracey:] Hinge and Gasket.
[speaker002:] Yeah....
[Joy:] Yeah it's erm... it's just such a long drawn out palaver they're getting, you know?
[Tracey:] You don't even want that do you?
[speaker002:] No, don't want nothing. Just wanna... be left alone....
[Tracey:] He has a few swigs [LAUGHTER] and then []. But he don't. Don't want it do you?
[speaker002:] [yawn]
[Tracey:] Do you want it? Have a little bit.... Have a little
[speaker002:] Bet old Kelly's in a mess now isn't she? Kelly's house.
[Tracey:] Why what's
[Joy:] Oh yeah she's having her wall knocked down. Is
[speaker002:] Wall knocked out, yeah.
[Joy:] is is Kev doing it?
[speaker002:] Yeah....
[Tracey:] I'm gonna
[Joy:] So who's going who's going tonight? Erm David? And Lydia up are they?
[Tracey:] Yeah. Erm
[speaker002:] And Joe
[Joy:] Joey and Michelle are... Joey and erm... what's her name are going to Germany ain't they for four years?
[Tracey:] Yeah.
[Joy:] What's, what's Joe's last name?
[Tracey:] ...
[Joy:] Yeah.... [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] I don't get a look in, I don't.
[Joy:] Don't you?
[speaker002:] No.
[Tracey:] Where's them? Where's them? Have a look at the. Oh you're wide awake aren't you?
[Joy:] Kimmy and Kimmy found a ferret down the field yesterday. His own ferret
[speaker002:] Oh did he?
[Joy:] went missing for... about four hours and when it eventually bolted out this hole it run straight up him and... curled up to him.
[Tracey:] Did it?
[Joy:] And he couldn't make out why cos he's quite vicious, his ferret. He's got some new ferreting land and erm... and when he went to put him in his box there was a ferret already in it but it's absolutely infested with these sheep tics.
[speaker002:] Ugh.
[Tracey:] Oh dear.
[Joy:] So they've had to sit and pull
[Tracey:] Has he peed on your leg? Your leg's a bit wet.
[Joy:] pull them all off.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Who's that?
[Tracey:] Who's that?
[speaker002:] I'll go love cos you've got the babby....
[Tracey:] Oh good gawd. Oh it looks like your mother.
[speaker002:] It looks... looks looks like my mother, yeah dunnit.... ? Yeah. Yeah. Come on in.... Come in Benj.
[Joy:] Who is it?
[speaker002:] Dunno. Someone asking for you and... Rudy.
[Joy:] [shouting] Hello! What are you doing here []? Hey look who's here....
[Connie:] Hey. Hallo kid.
[Joy:] How are you diddling? What's the matter?
[Connie:] Alright love?
[speaker002:] Just having some breakfast.
[Joy:] You don't know who this is do you?
[Connie:] . How are you?
[speaker002:] Yeah. Hello Georgie.
[Connie:] Hello
[Joy:] What's the matter?
[speaker002:] Oh not too bad.
[Joy:] me back's bad.
[speaker002:] Not too bad.
[Joy:] Your back's bad? Yeah.
[Connie:] Mind Benjy.
[Joy:] Why didn't you ring me and let me know you were coming? We wasn't. [LAUGHTER] Did you feel fed up? Well I wouldn't, I wouldn't have come like this would I if er... You're alright.
[Connie:] You're alright.
[Joy:] You're better than me.... I wouldn't have come out like this though would I? Do you know this is my daughter, you've never met Tracy before have you?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Oh have you? Did she have long
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] hair last time we came over? Probably. Do you remember George and Viv?
[Tracey:] Dunno, I can't remember. No.
[Joy:] ? George is the drummer.
[Tracey:] No I don't. Oh.
[Joy:] No. I don't remember you seeing them. I don't remember you meeting her meeting her.
[Tracey:] Come on then.
[Joy:] I'm going horseracing. If you'd have let me know I could have Well we're not stopping. Ain't you? No. Well you're not going surely? Well we're not stopping but we're not going anywhere. Rudy ain't going nowhere and. are we going? I said yeah
[Tracey:] Love, can you just put them bottles out?
[Joy:] What have we got? A little boy or a little girl?
[Tracey:] Boy. Little boy. Gonna have a cuddles?...
[Joy:] You look well anyway. Ooh aren't you beautiful? Aren't you beautiful? How old?
[Tracey:] Er... three weeks.
[speaker002:] Four weeks. Four weeks Wednesday isn't it?
[Tracey:] Four weeks Wednesday.
[Joy:] Oh there you are. Viv'll have him. Ooh I'll take him. I know she will. Yeah I'll take him. [LAUGHTER] That's our new arrival. We had him, what is he, three weeks old?
[Tracey:] He's four weeks on Wednesday isn't he?
[Joy:] Four weeks on Wednesday. Mm. That's her last caesarian. Look at him, his wi eyes are wide open. You're just nosy Tyler.... Tyler.... Mm. You know, you're
[Tracey:] No, he was he was only four, five fourteen
[Joy:] How is it you, you've kept your weight down then Viv?
[Tracey:] he's seven eight now.
[Joy:] I haven't, I've put it back on love. You haven't. I have. Not all of it. Well not all of it. But I've put it back quite I wondered where you'd got, we did ring one night... couple of weeks ago but we didn't get an answer and I said well I didn't know whether you'd perhaps popped up the club. It were a Saturday night cos I was in. I probably be working. I've packed in work now you see.
[speaker002:] So how's the others? Oh not so bad.
[Joy:] What, totally? Mm. Why? Taking too much out of me. Was it?... Oh. You're beautiful. You going back to our mummy now?... Going back to our mummy?
[Tracey:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] You can tell So how's all your kids? Are they all alright? Oh they're all fine, aye. Sit down Can you manage on that settee? Oh yeah. Yeah.... Have you seen my new arrival? He's gorgeous. This one. That's what we rang you to tell you, we've got a new dog. This is the one that I wanted. Yes, you want your tummy rubbing don't you? Yes.
[Tracey:] . Come on then. No, cos you're going in there now. You're going in the car.
[Joy:] I've been out of work six months. Have you? Yeah.
[Tracey:] Now we're going out. Shopping.
[speaker002:] Ha!
[Tracey:] We're going shopping now.
[Joy:] Now you look better I'll tell you that. Yeah I'm alright. I'm
[Tracey:] Alright love. Are you ready? Right mum. We're off.
[Joy:] Alright love, yeah.
[Tracey:] Alright? I'll er see you when I see you.
[Joy:] Take that hat with him. Oh and that's for the kids.
[Tracey:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] Pam's got another outfit for, for the other one. She picked the two up. I, she should have picked the one up and I but
[Tracey:] Yeah alright.
[speaker002:] Oh he's fine.
[Joy:] Okay. Do you want this cottonwool look?
[Tracey:] No it's, no I'm not.
[Joy:] You're not gonna use it?
[Tracey:] No I'm not gonna use it. I've promised.
[Joy:] Nothing to say it is that.
[Tracey:] Probably, I dunno. I'll try this cream and see how he gets on. Right, ta ta then.
[Joy:] See you later. Let me open the door for you.
[Tracey:] Oh I can do it.
[Joy:] . Are you alright then?
[Tracey:] Got him?
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Joy:] See you later then.
[speaker002:] Yeah alright then.
[Joy:] Ta ta. See you later.
[Tracey:] mum.
[speaker002:] See you.
[Tracey:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Ta ta. Bye. Be good.
[speaker002:] Ooh dear.
[Joy:] Ooh Benjy bubbles. Oh it's great to see you. I'm glad you've come. Might just have been the What? Just... as I said they just phoned, Kenny just phoned and said are you coming horseracing? I said yeah, well there's nothing else to do. I get fed up with bloody cards, so... erm I said we'll go. It's only up the road. It's only in the local flats, you know flat... But they always come
[speaker002:] Eh?
[Joy:] they always come just... just as I'm getting on and getting... well luckily enough I got me... me lounge done first thing this morning.... So what's been going on? Nothing? Everything? Nothing?
[Connie:] No not with us.
[Joy:] No? Nothing's changed?
[Connie:] Been a bit busy I suppose.
[Joy:] Have you? You're lucky Mm. I've been out of work six months.
[Connie:] Well, it's been quiet like, you know?... Just this last four weeks.. But I ain't I ain't been up your way for blooming ages.
[Joy:] No in actual fact we were only saying the other day that, you know,... sugar Viv? No thanks. George?
[Rudy:] Oh aye.
[Connie:] Well got a big place in Nottingham you see.
[Rudy:] Yeah. Mm.
[Connie:] So you can imagine that it wants something done. It fenced up security-wise and everything else so we've been on it overtime and... and painting and decorating and getting the
[Joy:] Do you want some Viv, before I go?
[Rudy:] Eh?
[Connie:] everything.
[Joy:] No Bit of toast or something? No you're alright love. Georgie?
[Connie:] No you're alright.
[Joy:] Shall I do you poached egg on toast or something?
[Connie:] No you're alright love.
[Joy:] Come on.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] Just before I go.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] No. You get yourself off.
[Connie:] You get yourself off.
[Joy:] I'm not going till... oneish....
[Connie:] Have you been nicking bloody recipes again?
[Joy:] No these are what I promised er... promised Joy. What are they? Weightwatcher's diets. Well have you decided... you're not gonna do anything about it? I think it's just a matter of... losing the Yeah. No I might er... might decide to do something about it if I get the inspiration. I'm just getting now because erm... erm... I've been for an aud not an audition [LAUGHTER]. Wrong word. I've been for an interview with Mencap.
[Connie:] Oh aye?
[Joy:] And erm... I didn't get the actual job I went for but they put me on the, on the relief register so that I go round to different people's homes or different big hospitals... and different Mencap homes... relieving people when they're on holiday or... if they're short of staff or something like that. So Yeah. erm... so er... I'm waiting to hear, so that I'm getting irritable at the minute cos... A the money is going and B... being out of work, being here all day. It's sending me crackers. I'm used to working day and night. I mean it's very hard to do neither.
[Connie:] husband he wants some beans.
[Joy:] Who does?
[Connie:] Him.
[Joy:] I'll beans him. [LAUGHTER] Is he eating them beans? He's ever so, ever such a devil to please. Aren't you? [LAUGHTER] So did it work, your Weightwatchers? I got down to ten stone. Did you? You've kept a lot of it off though. Well. What have you gone back up to now, eleven? Eleven. But I got down to ten stone. And but the reason that I got up to ten stone is because christmas. And any I stopped going to Weightwatchers.... I'm eleven one now. But to go down to ten, that's good. It is keeping it off though, isn't it? Once you Yeah. once you've erm... got it off you've gotta keep it off. That is the art in doing it. What are you doing in here?
[Rudy:] Giving him some beans.
[Joy:] I don't think he'll eat them Rude.
[Rudy:] ... He said he, yes he will. Or else I'll kill him.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Benjy bobs. There you are Joy. What's that?... when I first went to Weightwatchers.
[Rudy:] Sit down mate.
[Connie:] Ah.
[Joy:] And I got to ten seven on that. and then I stopped going. And then I rejoined
[Connie:] So you've got a tomorrow?
[Joy:] . And I got I was
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] I got down to ten
[Rudy:] Nowadays wanting to work on Saturdays and I said right I've had enough Friday.
[Connie:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] And so Were you disappointed when you put it back on? Yeah. But, having said all that
[Rudy:] Yeah when I finish on Friday George I've had enough
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] you know? Bloody messing about.
[Joy:] It wouldn't be so bad if. I'm not eating meals, I'm eating Snacks. snacks. And I'm. And they're all starch, they're all potatoes and... I'll have egg and chips and bread and more bread. I very rarely sit down and have a meal now. No. And that's erm... but it is good. And I would er I would. Anyway, you can have them.... And they're the daily diets are they? Yeah. Do you have to buy?
[Rudy:] So how long, how did it take to get to town then George?
[Joy:] No. Orange juice, eggs, bread.
[Connie:] Couple of hours.
[Rudy:] Eh?
[Connie:] Couple of hours.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] Couple of hours.
[Connie:] There was a lot of
[Joy:] Low fat cheese. Hard cheese.
[Connie:] Just near er... M forty two there's a lot of er roadworks and there were a
[Joy:] I've just had me friends down from er
[Connie:] wide load.
[Joy:] from Jersey. Have you?
[Rudy:] ?
[Connie:] Yeah. We lost half an hour there.... I'm still working, that's the main thing.
[Rudy:] That, that big job you were supposed to go on abroad never came off then with all this blooming
[Connie:] No it never come off. No.
[Rudy:] aggravation they had over there?
[Connie:] yeah....
[Joy:] I've got Adrian
[Rudy:] I see they're still... Saddam Hussein's still flipping messing about as well.
[Joy:] What? Yeah. Oh, good. And is he alright now? Is he still behaving?
[Rudy:] He's got to get rid of all that flipping
[Joy:] That's er Adrian?
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] Factories for making weapons he's got to
[Connie:] That's right.
[Rudy:] otherwise they're gonna flipping crucify him.
[Joy:] How's erm it's Craig innit?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Is Craig still alright? No, we've had a lot of trouble with him. Oh have you? He got in with the wrong crowd up at.
[Rudy:] The man's a flipping maniac. He c, he c he couldn't, it don't matter what he does, he could never win a bloody war. He ain't got enough blooming
[Joy:] but he's learnt.
[Connie:] No. Never do it.
[Joy:] Is he? He's learnt it the hard way now and he's. And er well
[Rudy:] See the old aircraft carriers and destroyers are standing by again.
[Connie:] yeah.
[Joy:] Oh, good.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] any more?... Oh we've had traumas of every descriptions. Mm. Since August.... Me sister's husband's buggered off Oh. and er... Which one? Wendy.... The one we went to Spain with.... You know we went to The one with the parrot? Yes.... he's on drugs fourteen years of. So we've had hell and high water with
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Er... Tracy?... My mate Val in Jersey, she's been ever so ill. She's got
[Rudy:] Is Craig still DJ-ing then?
[Connie:] Yeah, aha, yeah.
[Rudy:] So he's doing well is he?
[Connie:] Well... he is and he isn't.
[Rudy:] Oh gawd.
[Connie:] It's like talking to a.
[Joy:] Oh yeah. that cuts that he can see every side of your Body. of your body. Yeah. And then it cuts it every bit down into cent ce cent cent centimetres you know? And it erm... he can see
[Rudy:] That's the trouble with the youngsters mate. They make the money now and it goes like flipping water.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] exactly where the damage is laying. Oh.
[Rudy:] They don't realize sometimes there's hard times to come. You want something put aside mate.
[Connie:] Oh aye, yeah.
[Joy:] Quick and easy recipe book
[Connie:] Keep telling him and... that's it.
[Joy:] It's a twelve week. Are you with me? Yeah. So ideally if you looked at that come to that. If you worked it out... start in week twelve...
[Rudy:] I've still got them two speakers here, he wanted them.
[Connie:] Have you?
[Rudy:] He hasn't said any more about them. Yeah.
[Connie:] Bet he's forgot all about it.
[Rudy:] Yeah....
[Connie:] What does he want
[Rudy:] well he can afford.
[Connie:] Eh?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] I don't know
[Rudy:] They cost me three hundred and fifty, they're brand new. And I said to him you can have it for two, two fifty. You've saved an hundred quid.
[Connie:] I'll tell him
[Rudy:] speakers
[Connie:] ?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] I'll tell him when I get back.
[Rudy:] Yeah.... gonna have to save like mad then to buy them. [LAUGHTER]
[Connie:] He will do if he gets it into his head but... he got in trouble you see, got in with the wrong crowd and
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Connie:] a lot of money off him and all this lot.... He just learnt... learning now.
[Rudy:] Yeah.... Adrian and Andrea are alright are they?
[Connie:] Oh aye.... Just said we just bought in fran er franchise for a.
[Rudy:] Yeah. Yeah. Have you started or... you started?
[Connie:] week we started. Been at it three week now, so
[Rudy:] Mm....
[Joy:] Erm... and then if you that's got to last you all day through Yeah. Say you didn't use your
[Rudy:] So your firm's busy,?
[Connie:] No, not really.
[Rudy:] Not busy?
[Connie:] No. we're very slack now.
[Rudy:] The same as us everything's slow now.
[Connie:] I know. Just, just before christmas we had no job.... And that were right till the end of January.
[Rudy:] We've had, we we had stock in our blooming warehouse since... what November?
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] People didn't want it.
[Connie:] No.
[Rudy:] It's only now just started now.
[Connie:] Mm. Yeah?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] It's isn't it?...
[Joy:] . And that's how you know whether you're or not. But you've also got your option of calories.... Right? Which you are allowed
[Rudy:] Yeah, we could have done without all this bloody hassle down there.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] You know?... Do the whole bloody place up.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] Mind you the firm that was in there Blue Bag I mean they abused the bloody place they did.
[Connie:] Aye.
[Rudy:] They knocked it about something terrible.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] So I mean... sooner or later would have been had to... to do, do up you know?
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] And these people decide whether they want the place, and the ideal place for them. Whether they want so
[Joy:] Er fourteen to twenty one. That's what it is. It's fourteen to twenty one. What's that.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Eh? Opt er optional calories....... Well there ain't much that'd be fourteen to twenty, twenty calories is there? No. You've got fourteen er fourteen options.... You need to be a mathematician to sort this bugger out. You don't really Thing is to do. [LAUGHTER] it's quite easy actually. This is a job if I don't lose it, feeding my dog beans one at a time.... Won't it bubby?
[Rudy:] Yeah I ain't, I ain't done any work here rea really since, you know... done up the place. Well you seen it last year when you came and saw the garden and
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] the back bit
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] I've only just tidied up the front again last weekend. Got it all sorted out. Course with the winter and everything you see you can't do much outside.
[Connie:] No that's true....
[Rudy:] You've got to cut all your grass in the the back there but... and with it being wet and And I've got to roll it again with the roller....
[Connie:] done a patio.
[Rudy:] You've done the patio have you?... Is your grass come up alright... in the back now?
[Connie:] Oh she's had that altered. She's got us pond in now.
[Rudy:] No... got fish for it?
[Connie:] She's done it no. Little pond she's having.
[Rudy:] Oh.
[Connie:] Be for... water flowers, you know?
[Rudy:] Yeah, water lilies and so on in it, yeah....
[Connie:] So... you'll not know it when you come cos it's all fenced off. Yeah. We're all pri we're all private
[Rudy:] It's all fenced off?
[Connie:] now. Yeah. Oh aye.
[Rudy:] Yeah. Course in your area putting up the fences.
[Connie:] Oh it's all done now.... Aye.
[Joy:] And you're. And your optional calories is nought to seven hundred
[Rudy:] I've put two trees in down the back. I've put an apple tree down one side and I've got a victoria plum on the other side.
[Connie:] Oh mm. [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] So I should be able to have some plums. [LAUGHTER] I've still got a bit more to do, you know?
[Connie:] Yeah.... Can't do it all at once though can you?
[Rudy:] No. It takes time but
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] eventually you do it, you know?... Sort itself out....
[Joy:] That. That's just in case
[Rudy:] Where's that dog?
[Joy:] He's here.
[Rudy:] Oh. Yeah that's the baby of the house.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] That's the book.
[Connie:] We lost ours you know?
[Rudy:] Mm?
[Connie:] We lost our Judy.
[Rudy:] Did you?...
[Joy:] Oh yeah we lost our Judy.
[Rudy:] It died?
[Connie:] Before christmas.
[Rudy:] She died?
[Joy:] Did you?
[Connie:] No we had to have her put her down.
[Rudy:] Put her down. Too old?...
[Joy:] Yeah. They do. That is the only thing.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] So there's that one you can choose from.
[Rudy:] She was a lovely dog though.
[Connie:] Oh aye she were beautiful.
[Rudy:] So, you know, so loving.
[Connie:] Mm
[Rudy:] Yeah er this one's the same.
[Connie:] Mm....
[Rudy:] He stays down here at night and he won't go if Joy went up to bed he won't go with her.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] And as soon as I get up I say you coming? And he's up there like a shot.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] You know?
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] At night sometimes I'm sleeping and I put me hand like that and he comes up and lays right across the back of my pillow.
[Connie:] That's right. Yeah.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] He's ever so clean though.
[Connie:] Oh yeah....
[Rudy:] Benjy! Benjy! Come on. Come and see dad.... Benjy, come and see dad. Come on.... He skips over for the bloody
[Connie:] Oh aye.
[Rudy:] There's one there, there's two over there. Sometimes he hides it down the back of his... seat here. Chucks it down the back.
[Connie:] Oh aye they.
[Rudy:] And he knows, he knows where they are as well.
[Connie:] Oh aye yeah. Yeah.
[Joy:] over there they're just doing microwave... cooking you know.... Don't like meat done in the microwave, do you? No, I don't. I don't mind chicken. I'll leave you them. and then I can put these together, but that one... that one I suppose basically it's a matter of getting.
[Rudy:] Yeah I ain't been for blooming ages.
[Connie:] No?
[Joy:] That's right. What you can have in a week... or a day. I find that is easier for me.
[Rudy:] Oh I used to do... I used to do Bradford... Wakefield you know?
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] And they took another driver on... and he does a lot of that, the runs there you see. I mainly do now like Nottingham and Mansfield and Leicester and... Birmingham all round that way you know?
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] I don't even do now.
[Connie:] No?
[Rudy:] Mind you I could now.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] until you get to London
[Connie:] Ah London is it mm?...
[Rudy:] I mainly do round the midlands now.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] Which suits me fine.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Rudy:] to run all over the bloody place and
[Joy:] It's a shame. If I'd have known you were coming I wouldn't have booked going out. Oh... get yourself off.... If I don't do something with me life I spend my life sitting here all day
[Rudy:] Here you are
[Joy:] stop this dog of mine scratching all the while. I shall brush it and you won't like it Ben. I've just give you one good brush haven't I?
[Rudy:] Come here.... Come on
[Joy:] Is that the only daughter you've got? Yes. Yes we had seen her.
[Connie:] Aye I thought we had.
[Joy:] Have you? Yeah because you fetched kiddies up, didn't she?
[Connie:] Yeah....
[Joy:] She's just up me photo of the kids look. That's them. Yeah.
[Rudy:] Don't you lean over, I'm not scratching your tummy.
[Joy:] I think he's just probably losing his winter coat.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] that lovely ni nice warm day we had. Ooh I spend a lifetime running around after my baby. He's really made my life different, this little dog. I love him. We love him. He's absolutely spoilt. Worse than any kid. Aren't you?... Eh?... Yes I think Adrian will be It's a pity you don't feel like standing up and racing cos it's lovely. Yeah.
[Connie:] Yeah we're going down there now.
[Joy:] It'd be a bit hectic for you though cos it'll be, yeah it's cold but... it's uneven ground and that's Oh.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] You w you're not do you?. See the thing is he's gonna run us up. It's only just... Newton Bromswell which is just up the road. But you see if you take a car it's eight pound to park a car. Ooh! But if you go in, if you walk in it's free but you, you can't walk there because it's... well you're talking about five mile out into the country.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] And although we're not so far from here cos we're... this is Newton Road and the next town on er village on is Newton Bromswell.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] But you see if you're coming from Hyam you've got to come all the way through Chilveston and that way
[Connie:] Oh yeah, yeah.
[Joy:] and erm... cos then Pam ph Penny phoned and said shall, it's her who's the horsy fanatic but... it's lovely. Yeah we just go and have a pound on the nose you know and er
[Connie:] Well that's it. You've got to.
[Joy:] there's about ten... ten runners. They only do it once a year on the flat. er Thursday night erm... we went to the gala at the new gala club. You know Connells' all been took over by Gala? Yeah. Yeah. And erm they had their opening, big opening night Thursday so... he was, he was... out, he was up at half past four that morning so I thought well... we might as well go. So I rang mum at four o'clock. I said do you fancy going out tonight cos it's The Bachelors who opened it... Ooh that's alright then isn't it? So erm... so went about... half past five. We got there for about ten to six. They had a band called Me and Him on. They done all Chas and Dave. [LAUGHTER] Me and Him. Me and Him. [LAUGHTER] Chas Chas and Dave stuff and Roll Out the Barrel and all the rubbish you know? Oh I bet that were great weren't it? Yeah. It were Yeah. Then we had the local girls that do all this erm... balls and and twist er you know like the ra ra girls. Yeah. And then er as I say The Bachelors come on at... seven until eight. They were rea they were... they were good. I mean Yeah. Yeah. not particularly my cup of tea but mum enjoyed them and they got everybody going and... and then we had a good game of bingo. We had a sherry when we went in and erm... bottle of champers on the table and balloons and Ooh. Tell you what she's living it up more now than she did before! Well, you have to make something. But they've got, we've got a new club here called The Beacon. It's at Northampton. And it's massive. It's an ex-Tesco's warehouse. Mm. It's absolutely massive. But every night they have... every Saturday night they have a cabaret on and tonight it's Renee and Renata. Ooh!
[Connie:] Oh my god.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []. Last week it were the Barron Knights Oh I wouldn't have Yeah. minded seeing Barron Knights. It's, I mean it's all free. It's for the end of your night, your cabaret. And the houses are a thousand pounds each. so I mean Ooh! Yeah. Yeah, so I mean... if you have a win yeah, and a woman that sat... on the next table to me. Touching my shoulder... she said to me [whispering] I want all the ones, all the ones. I said go on, you'll get it you'll get it []. And I looked up and said it's here! And she laughed and she said here... here [LAUGHTER] here she went like this [] and I shou shouted as well. Mum said good job you shouted, they wouldn't have heard her. I mean she must have been in her seventies. But we, we got it and she
[Connie:] Oh good.
[Joy:] she had a thousand pound. It were nice. Oh it is, it is nice isn't it? I mean it's just a matter of you know, being able to afford to go and Yeah. And keep it going. I mean I used to love me bingo. I mean once upon a time nothing was, but I've spent... two and a half thousand pound if not more since I've been off work. Yeah. You know, the dole don't keep us. Well no. I mean it's There's no way I mean No. you can't live on the dole. Not when you buy like I buy.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] No. I mean your joint of meat costs you a fiver don't it? Course it does.
[Connie:] Oh aye course it does yeah.
[Joy:] So I mean we're And the rest sometimes. I went Well I went down town... yesterday and got some braising steak and it cost me five pounds sixty. I know. It's crazy. And that's just for three of them. I mean I, four of them. I don't eat it you see. That's without your... and that's without your bits to go with it, your veg. That's right yeah. And then cooking it. I mean I know. gas and electric's expensive now isn't it? I know. And I keep thinking to myself well something will come along, something'll happen, but... I I think what it is... there is no jobs round here at the moment. I think what it is is that I feel... if I go into something for the sake of going into it to earn money... I shall be absolutely bored with me life. I f I shall feel as if we've been from here... cos when I was first married we lived up round the next road. And I shall feel as if I've got up, been round the world
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] and come back to, to where I were twenty six year ago and
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Yeah. I don't want that. I've got to No. have a purpose to go out to work.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] I mean most people go out to work to earn money.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Yeah. I mean I went out because I mean The house does get boring. I I got really... really fed up. Erm I mean I were working at library. I mean that were no problem. But then when I left library... I just got fed up and... I went and... went down to help Sue didn't I? And I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yeah.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] It's meeting the people. But now she's left and she's had a baby... and I carried on... because he wanted it, the the new landlord wanted me to... to stop on and help out. Oh my giddy aunt. And I would go in and I... I never said nothing to him at first did I?... but I just couldn't take it any more. Mm. And it was either thinking about the wage packet at end of week which I was at first.
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Joy:] And then... I were coming home and I were, I were really awful. And I thought why should I? And then on Thursday... I went in to work and I had had enough.... And I come home and I says to him, I'm not having this no more. I said no,. Mm.
[speaker002:] [sneeze]
[Joy:] He says well if you want to pack it in love Bless you. pack in. And I did and to be quite honest, I mean... it wasn't the money really when you think about it because at end of day, forty six pound... he were spending in pub anyway.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] So... I were working for nothing really. Yeah. but he he were getting cos you were going out and having a drink er on er Tuesdays Thursdays Saturdays and Sundays. Whereas now, I mean... we don't go. You don't go. No.... And well I, we even considered me and my sister even considered going back into driving instruction. We went to a seminar
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] a fortnight ago. It's stupid, I mean I've been a driving instructor seventeen year, and I'm not allowed to teach over here.
[speaker002:] No?
[Joy:] No, I've got to take it all again. You're talking about sixteen, seventeen hundred pound to get you through. Yeah. But you see with this bank thing with the government, you can have a loan... I think it's up to about four thousand pound... like a restart. And it's a free loan for fifteen months. Mm. And then on the sixteenth month you've gotta pay it back. However you decide to, by instalments or by
[Connie:] Mm, mm.
[Joy:] one, one big lump. Mm. But at the end of the day, it ain't really what I want to do.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] I mean I, I want to get into mental health care. Mm. And and erm... if I... I'm hoping I'll like it when I get in there, but something tells me I would. Well as I say I went for this interview and she phoned me last Sunday didn't she? I went on the Monday for the, to the house. Then on the Tuesday I went to the hospital. And erm... she phoned me up on the Sunday. She said I'm... I'm just ringing to tell you Joy that you didn't get... you you haven't been successful with your application this time. But she said... erm I wanna just tell you... all the others... that haven't made it, we've just said well I'm sorry. That's it. But, with you, we feel you've got so much to offer... and we don't really wanna just say no and... and... and it would make you feel oh blow it I'm not gonna do it. Mm. She said I feel that... there is a place for you in the health, in this mental health service. But she said... what it is is basically we're all just starting from the bottom because this new idea of where they're buying small homes and making them small communities Yeah. erm... they're all starting from new. They're all been institutionalized up till recently. That's right yeah. So they're gradually buying houses in certain areas. And she said I'm sure you'll get in. But you see it's like everything else, we're in a recession. You, you go for a job and there's two hundred people going for that one job.
[Connie:] Mm. Mm.
[Joy:] That's right, yeah. There's three hundred and eighty went for a job up the Hilly Home Where they have the spastic kids. Yeah. Imagine, for one post! Yeah. I mean Kerry's doing caring you know? And she Is she? Yeah she's a carer. What the old people? Old people and er... and handicapped kids. Erm... she's teaching erm... she's teaching handicapped now at er Hilltop... School. Er... seven to eleven I think it is. Erm... but they are not the really... really disabled kids. No. They're, they are the the mental ones. Yeah. Erm... Cos they're mentally sick or mentally handicapped?
[Connie:] Mentally retarded.
[Joy:] Er me men yeah mentally retarded. They just need a little help like with feeding or... or if they throw a tantrum Yeah mentally handicapped more than mentally sick. You see the ones I wanted Yeah. to do. I wanted to work with people that had had er severe depression. Ex alcoholics, schizophrenics. Aye. Where you don't do anything like that. You just work on a plan where... that i at the er at the beginning of the day you're, you're given your people to watch. So every mortal thing that person does you note. Like if he doesn't wash, you don't wash them. You note that they haven't done it.
[Connie:] Mm. Yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah. And then you see you come along where you're pushing them to live on their own and you... make suggestions. That's right yeah. And erm I went to a place in and that's what I wanted to do. But you see they ain't got no places here. No. Erm and it's a shame. I mean Mencap are all men It is really isn't it? I mean there's there's more people now When you've got so much to offer. Yeah. There's more people like that nowadays isn't there, than? Mm. I think there's gonna be more and more. Because at one time th I mean you never saw them because they were pushed away in in these That's right. great big hospitals and forgotten about. Whereas now That's right. th they're coming out into community so you're seeing more of them. Oh yeah. And th th there's more but I mean the facilities for them is there? Well you see and I've also put in for a job... for the the marina at Northampton which is another mental home. But that's for a mobility assistant where... I go in and befriend somebody and they employ me to take them somewhere for two hours. Whether it be Yeah. pictures or... shopping or round the market or just for a walk or... for a meal. Whatever you... they employ Yeah. me, but it's five pound eighty for a two hour session. Well you've got to think about going to Northampton.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] You're talking about half hour there and back drive. So that
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] two hours is now three.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Plus your petrol money to get there.
[Connie:] Yeah, yeah.
[Joy:] That's right. Do you want me to fetch a pillow? No, you're alright love. There's plenty of cushions No, you're alright. And erm... so you see you're, you're throwing money to get money which is, which is a bit stupid. That's right. pointless. But then I erm... she phoned me yesterday and she said to me have you had any... professional... lifting erm... lessons at all. I said no. None whatsoever. So she said oh, that's alright, I've got it all in me head what, what I've got with you. So I do believe in me soul that she's working for me.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Mm. But she's offered me a relief post as I say, where I go round and help but she don't know how many hours it will be. Mm. But I think I've got to get in and I've got to think well this next six months... erm I've gotta work hard to get in... regardless of whether I go... voluntary or whether I go to a hospital and learn it at me own you know, expense. Yeah. I think I've got to put something in to get something out. I've never been a person that gets something for nothing. For nothing. No. I've always had to work very hard but at the end of the day I'm, I'm self-satisfied because I'm... I'm doing what I want to do. And I Do, yeah. think to myself well it's six months... I wish I'd have done it in August, now.
[Connie:] Mm. Mm.
[Joy:] Wish I'd have took it up in August. Took the bull by the horns. See six months down the road I could have been there.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] That's right, yeah. You see and Yeah. It's like everything e but th s saying that... we had him. We had him in September didn't we? And I mean... he took a lot of rehousing cos he come from a... a a family that hadn't really cared for him. I mean he's a happy little soul, isn't he, in in certain respects? I don't think he'd been ill-treated, but he's took a lot of love and a lot of attention
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] to to to get him into a home. And she said he'll probably take four or five months to settle in
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] and feel comfortable. But I never leave him. He's never left is he, at all? If I go out I take him to mum's. Or if, if I go out... Rudy'll stop in. Or if he goes out I stop in. It's... he's took our life over in a certain respect Mm.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] but he's, he's brought us a lot of pleasure hasn't he? He is, he's a lovely little character. Benjy! Come here. [LAUGHTER] But er he's hard work. You can see he is cos his fur's
[Connie:] Oh aye.
[Joy:] Oh yes. his fur here eventually'll come right down to the floor, I mean when he goes out he's Oh yeah.
[Connie:] absolutely
[Rudy:] Yes.
[Joy:] filthy. I have to sit him in the bath and I think June had one didn't she? She had er... hers was er more, whereas yours is nice and white, here were all grey and black. Yeah. Yeah. It were beautiful. They're lovely natured. Mm.
[Rudy:] He's a babe. His dad's baby.
[Joy:] He's just a
[Rudy:] He's dad's baby. You've gotta pick him up like a baby.
[Joy:] Mm.
[Rudy:] You coming with dad?...
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Are you coming to your dad []?
[Joy:] Well my brother... the only person he does it to is him. He growls like mad at Gary. Doesn't he? I've never heard a dog... he don't do it to anybody else. Sometimes he'll growl at Rudy when he comes up to say ta ta in the morning.
[Rudy:] That's because he don't want me to go to work.
[Joy:] I have to bath him two or three times a week. Yeah. And it takes me over an hour to dry him. So he's he's
[Rudy:] It's not, no it's hair you know
[Joy:] It's hair.
[Connie:] Yes that's right. Yeah.
[Rudy:] normally a dog can well it's bristly isn't it? But this is all hair this is.... And he's like a teddy bear.
[Joy:] He's mummy's teddy boy.
[Rudy:] He's a teddy bear....
[Joy:] You'll have to remember Rudy he's had nothing to eat
[Rudy:] He's a teddy bear.
[Joy:] for a day. He's ever so finicky.
[Rudy:] Oh he'll have to eat when he wants to eat.
[Joy:] So he [LAUGHTER] so he's videoing it then is he?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Oh my giddy aunt. Listen, I'm gonna have to go and get You go and get ready. myself sorted out. Erm But you're not going... you're not rushing off are you?...
[Connie:] What?
[Joy:] ... Well I should be back at five.... About f yeah, cos you've got to pick us up. Cos Pam's son's going to Germany for four years tomorrow. He's just come back from Belize... erm, and he's... they're, they're posted to Germany and they leave tomorrow.
[Rudy:] Who's that, Joe?
[Joy:] Joe.
[Rudy:] No I j I don't think Joe, I saw what's her name? Erm... Mi Michelle... when I was going to the bank.
[Joy:] Debbie.
[Rudy:] Debbie. And erm... she said she'll tell Joe and they'll probably pop up. They may come up tomorrow, I don't know. I don't think it's, they're going before... don't think he's going before Tuesday.
[Joy:] Oh well they're posted abroad anyway. And they're all going out for dinner tonight. Mm. But Pam's coming to the racing with us this afternoon. Baby stop scratching.... Stop it. Erm... and er so, I said to him if he runs us up... with the car and then he can bring it back. And if he slips back and pick, picks us up about... I don't know, Pam'll tell you when she comes. I should think about quarter to five. Mm. Cos the last race is at five o'clock I think, but... I mean it's only if we go couple of hours. And erm... I mean we've got nothing on then. Well George is working in morning so we shan't be... stopping late. Cos he's got to be at work for what?
[Connie:] six o'clock.
[Joy:] Are you? So... mm it were just a case of a flying visit cos we've not seen you for nearly twelve months. Is it as long as that? Mm.
[Connie:] Mm. It's over.
[Joy:] It's over. Mm I know. I know the time's flying. Well in actual fact... to te to tell you the honest truth... we've been so busy one way and another over the weekends haven't we? Yeah. And then erm... we ain't even been to see Barbara and her... and her new house and they only live fourteen mile away. Yeah. She keeps ringing us up and saying... are you... are you... are you coming? Are you coming up to see us? But... I don't get time, you know? By the time we get home and and finished.... This little dog, he's got something. What are you itching for?... Now let your mummy have a look. Oh look Rude.
[Rudy:] What?
[Joy:] Look!
[Rudy:] That's where he keeps biting it and scratching it.... That's what it is, it's scratching and biting.
[Joy:] Look. He might have got a flea.... He might have got a flea Rudy.
[Rudy:] I doubt it.
[Joy:] I dunno. You see, see they do... most dogs go down the fields. Quite possibly he has got a flea duck.... I sprayed him with that stuff. Ah well if he's er I ain't got nothing to put on him. The only thing I can put on him is some talcum powder. Will you come up the bedroom?
[Rudy:] What was that D D D?
[Joy:] What's that, D D D?
[Rudy:] That stuff wasn't it? I mean that stuff spots. Thing is he might... lick it mightn't he?
[Joy:] Mm. Yeah. He's alright. I'll give you... we erm... we I've got s it's green and it's awful. But it it's fantastic stuff. What is it, spray? No it's cream.... He's done nothing but scratch this morning though. Yeah well it, it's probably that he's just got one. And on other hand it's probably been there, you've bathed him and it's just left it sore.... See he's got another one there look.... No. Yeah. Yeah it has. That's a sore.... That's a sore.
[Rudy:] something to put on it....
[Connie:] [sneeze]
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Did your uncle George sneeze? He went atchoo. He went atchoo.
[Joy:] Right well I'll go and get me warm clothes on. Yeah as I was saying, George is gonna nip into town.... Down here. Yeah. Cos he wants a pair of shoes. Oh alright. Well Rudy can take you down to... you know where to go... Tarrers... But if you don't wanna go you're, you've got the telly. You can stay and... wh tell me what time you're think about going. Will you, shall you... stop for an e stop for the evening? Alright, or shall you... It ain't up to me it's up to you. You're the, you're the driver and you've got to get up for work in the morning and everything else. No it isn't, it's up to you duck.... It's up to you duck. No, it's up to you duck. Yeah it is up to you George, really. You're going to do the driving. You're going to work.... Oh dear. Pack it in. Let mummy give you a drop more spray.... Rudy you
[Rudy:] Is your white boots alright here George?
[Connie:] Eh?
[Rudy:] Your white boots.
[Connie:] Oh aye, yeah.
[Rudy:] Use them at all?
[Connie:] Aye I've once or twice.
[Joy:] Are you doing any drumming at all George?
[Connie:] No.
[Rudy:] No he's packed up. He's like me.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I ain't touched my bloody saxophone since we packed up.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] Aah. [LAUGHTER] Talent going down drain.... Yeah, talent going down the drain.... [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] He says don't you dare come near me with that silly spray.... Come here. Here here here here here here here here here here [LAUGHTER] Oh dear. [LAUGHTER] Here.... There's hardly anything in it. But if he is... You see it it comes off [LAUGHTER] it comes off the grass you see Come on Come on then, in the garden.... Oh.... Oh dear.... I'm still no nearer Georgie.
[Connie:] Eh?
[Joy:] I'm still no nearer.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Still... you can decide what you're gonna do. You know him. Well as I say you've no need to stay late late. I mean... We'll be here when you come back. You will? Well that's We'll be here when you come back. that's alright then. And then er... I don't know. I'll put the heating on Rudy.
[Rudy:] Yeah. Well Viv is stopping in, you're going to town.
[Joy:] Viv's going up town with you.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Viv's got the money. Who's got money?
[Rudy:] We've got to leave him then Joy.
[Joy:] Eh? Oh.
[Rudy:] We've got to leave Ben here.
[Joy:] He's alright. He won't hurt.
[Connie:] We shan't be long anyway.
[Joy:] No, he'll be alright. He's got to learn to stop sometimes....
[Rudy:] leave the doors open
[Connie:] Oh we shan't be long....
[Joy:] Yes you wouldn't know our little garden now Rudy.
[Connie:] Just telling him.
[Rudy:] No. Now you're putting in bloody flower ponds and all that sort of thing. Water lilies and...
[Joy:] When it gets... established. I mean it looks noth... it looks nothing now. But, you can't rush nature can you? So...
[Rudy:] I mean it's like my garden out the back there. I mean he runs up and down, he... it used to be lovely, all the grass. Well it's gotta be done again, you know? Cut and
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] and rolled again you know and so on. You can't do much in the winter, I was saying to George.
[Joy:] No. It's pointless anyway isn't it, really?
[Rudy:] Yeah. Yeah. I mean I done all the front here last weekend Oh yes... work's never finished.... You'll always find something to do. Like I say I'm getting some erm
[Joy:] Oh I just
[Rudy:] some corrugated mesh from work when they've finished building and I'm going to do around there as well to stop... stop him because you know they've got holes in the fence and he jump
[Connie:] Aye
[Rudy:] when you put him outside he goes through, you know? So I'll put some corrugated, you know, about that height. That'll stop him then.
[Connie:] Yeah....
[Rudy:] So, yeah. Well he's a blooming nuisance he is, at times.
[Connie:] Oh aye they are.
[Rudy:] He digs up the bloody garden round the
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] back and... you! [LAUGHTER] You! Where's Viv, upstairs?
[Connie:] No she's gone to the loo.
[Rudy:] What, in there?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] Should have gone upstairs.... Got a nice little keyboard upstairs as well for Joy.
[Connie:] Have you?
[Rudy:] Yeah, a Yamaha.
[Connie:] Oh, good.
[Rudy:] E S R forty eight.
[Connie:] Oh?
[Rudy:] Yeah....
[Joy:] Hello!... Hello! Where've you been?
[Rudy:] . Come up and see it George. Oh. Joy... you decent?... Or indecent? And if you're indecent
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I'm alright. What's this jumper on the floor? Come on George....
[Joy:] So yeah, I dunno, things keep going on don't they?...
[Rudy:] Oh the last time you were here I didn't do the bathroom either.
[Joy:] No. No you haven't.
[Rudy:] done all the bathroom.
[Joy:] I know I've just noticed. It's lovely.
[Connie:] Yeah....
[Joy:] You know when you've done here, will you come and...? [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Do yours.
[Joy:] This wants doing, this room now.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Wants doing again....
[Rudy:] I try and do a little bit of everything you know
[Joy:] I want me
[Rudy:] I ain't a bl builder or a carpenter or a chippy or a tiler but... as I say I I I plan it out, always plan it out how I'm going to do it. And I take me time. me two weeks to do it I'm gonna do it and then when it's finished it's done right.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] That's it, yeah.
[Rudy:] You know?
[Connie:] Well that's it isn't it?
[Joy:] Don't keep scratching....
[Rudy:] You'd better take that brolly with you.... My big golf brolly.
[Joy:] Oh I can't. No, I'm not carrying a brolly round. If we get wet we get wet, simple as that.
[Rudy:] Fair enough.
[Joy:] I'm not carrying a brolly round all afternoon.
[Rudy:] Or take that smaller one.
[Joy:] No. I hate things in me hand. I'm only gonna take some money in me pocket.... There you are. Poor old Rudy, skint again. [LAUGHTER] There's something to be said about that. You mean poor old Joy. Well I had to come down on his side. I've got to spend afternoon with him haven't I?
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Don't come down on his side. [LAUGHTER]... Well as I say I hadn't, I hadn't planned on going anywhere. I erm... I just said to him You get off Joy. Enjoy yourself. I said to him you'll have to go and get me some money cos I... I ain't got hardly any. And erm so he reluctantly went down the bank and got me a tenner.... And there's tear stains on it but I'll put up with that.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Ah of course you can. Tenner'll do.... Look. I mean he's even marked it look. Yeah. Where he kissed it goodbye. [LAUGHTER]... Have you noticed George has stopped smoking? Have you noticed I have?... Oh yeah.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Good luck Yes. Have you noticed Rudy hasn't? And he said he was gonna do.
[Connie:] Oh I have a, have a cigar when I when I have a pint.
[Joy:] W how long you been packed up?
[Connie:] Two years.
[Joy:] Two year. Yeah I were gonna say No you
[Connie:] two year in June.
[Rudy:] Cigarettes.
[Joy:] since we saw them, that's right.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah I'm sure you'd packed up last time I saw you. That's why I didn't erm notice. I packed up... I packed up for two and a half years... and then erm... when we went to Spain in August, no in October, the four girls went... me and me two sisters and a friend from work, Barbara. We went to Spain and erm the smell of the fags, it absolutely poured with rain for four days and nights. And I mean in Spain it rains.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] And erm we were l we were stuck in the villa, right up in the mountains... er, could do nothing but play cards all day and... scrabble and erm... all these stupid board games. But erm... and I just felt oh... fancy all this way just to come and sit and play cards. But... we had a good time. It were nice just to relax and... I started smoking again and I packed up last Sunday. I thought that's it. I can't afford to keep chucking two quid down the drain. And I knew they'd go up again on... on Wednesday. The budget mm. So I thought that's it, I'm gonna pack up. So we're watching that programme, Is this Your Last Cigarette? or whatever it were called last Sunday on the telly and I thought... I'm stupid cos in six month's time I shall say I could have packed up six months ago. So I thought well if you're gonna do it in six months
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] do it now. So I I just packed up and... never thought any more about it. Couple of occasions I've felt... haven't I? I've said I could do with a fag Yeah. but I won't, I won't relent. I'm I'm too, I'm quite stern that way. I was just stupid but I was as I say, since Oct erm... when was it? Since September... I've had hell and high water with my sister. It's been dreadful... to say the least. Mm. And erm... well she's gone down from what?... Twelve and a half stone? She must be eight and a half. Ah!... Christmas... no... new year's eve... we went to a party. It were my... other sister's... daughter's eighteenth and she'd booked up a party... at the club. So erm... we went over. Ten to twelve my sister said I'm going home. She said I couldn't see the new year in. She said it's too painful. So I said alright then
[Rudy:] Is that still switched on?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] Switch it off.
[Joy:] Yeah. And then erm and then er... when we went out, mum was in bed with fl pneumonia, well near pneumonia. Wen er Wendy had gone. Mum had got Benjy so I thought... we'll pop up, see mum, get the dog. And as we come out I said to Rudy I feel we ought to go up and see if Wendy's alright, cos she was a bit upset at quarter to twelve. So he said alright then. And we drove round and she's got a bungalow and all... she's got these curtains that all cross over and when you sit outside it don't look as if there's any lights on. But luckily enough I got up and walked round the back and I could just see... the lights on in the living room downstairs. And erm... I called out to her through the letter box... and she come. And she said I'm on the phone, will you talk to that person on the phone. I said who are you on the phone to? She said the Samaritans. She said I just wanted to commit suicide. She said I don't want to live any more Joy. So of course that was it. I said right come on, you're coming home with me. That's... end of subject. She said I can't I've just had a sleeping tablet. And she said erm... I don't, I don't... I don't want to she said. And we sat about an hour didn't we? It must have been nearly an hour. And I says come on, let's go up my house. I said I, I'll make the bed up when we get home. Anyway in the end I just said that's it. I've had enough. Switched the fire off. Grabbed hold of her. Grabbed her handbag. Marched her out of the house in her dressing gown and... these great big slippers, you know, these with a funny face on. Then we sat here till what, gone four? Didn't we? Talking. Mm. Then she got strong again. She gets these... pangs where she can't cope when she's on her own. But then when I'd strengthened her up I said... she'd be alright for a few days. And then she phoned me up. Said I can't cope again. I'm down, down the pan. And that's how it's swung. Roundabouts and swings all the while. You wouldn't have thought he'd have walked out would you?
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] Cos they seemed, seemed so happy. Well.... So erm... as I say she's er
[Rudy:] and take you all up there?
[Joy:] Yes if you'd just slip us up, will you? I must go and get a tissue.... handkerchief round here.... I don't iron but at least it's done. Enjoy yourself. Yeah. So erm And win something. Yeah.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] We only put fifty P on. End of the big spenders. It's only fif... the maximum bet's about two quid I think, something like that. [knocking] [shouting] Come in []. Ooh ooh come in.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Oh yeah, lovely. Erm... Do you know these... lot?
[Penny:] No.
[Joy:] This is George and Viv from... Rotherham. This is... the r George the drummer that we used to in nineteen sixty
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] We know of you. How do?
[Joy:] And this is Penny and this is Pam. Hello darling.
[Penny:] Are you not coming horseracing?
[Joy:] No. We're going into town.
[Penny:] Oh you're not? was it a flying visit like?
[Joy:] Yeah. Didn't know they were coming.
[Penny:] Oh what a shame.
[Joy:] It is isn't it? She said is this a flying visit? I said yeah we didn't know they were coming they just appeared.
[Penny:] Oh. Turned up.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Oh what a shame.
[Joy:] It doesn't matter. I mean... they're not flying off. They're gonna be here when we come back. come back. Stop while we come back.
[Penny:] Oh.
[Joy:] And erm... but George has gotta get up and go work in the morning.... What time are you going out tonight? What time are you picking us up?
[Penny:] Who?
[Joy:] What time's he picking us up tonight?
[Penny:] Who?
[Joy:] Rudy.
[Penny:] Half fourish.
[Joy:] Half past fourish. Well
[Rudy:] Well
[Joy:] Right, if you can... are you ready then?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Come on then. You've gotta pick us up about... half past fourish.
[Penny:] Half past fourish.
[Joy:] Yeah?
[Rudy:] Yeah what whatever....
[Joy:] Alright then? We're going in Pam's, are we? Go in mine?
[Rudy:] Yeah, go in a mini. It'll be easier to park it up then.
[Joy:] Alright then. Alright then.
[Rudy:] You park your car somewhere.
[Joy:] mine's over the road anyway.
[Rudy:] Eh?
[Joy:] Park mine up over the road.
[Rudy:] Over the road where?... In front of
[Joy:] make some tea.
[Rudy:] Are you?
[Joy:] Well if they do they'll have to open the bloody gate. [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] lift the car.
[Joy:] Come on then.
[Penny:] See you. Nice to meet you.
[Rudy:] See you a bit later. See you later. Bubye.
[Joy:] See you. Shan't be long. Make some tea. Make some toast if you want some toast. There's plenty of eggs.
[Connie:] Right.
[Joy:] Just get through the cupboards. Just go and enjoy yourself. See you later. See you.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Penny:] I'll shut him in.
[Joy:] He's alright. Put the telly on George.
[speaker002:] Bye....
[Joy:] And then... do away with chimney breast... altogether. You're gonna have what out? You know cupboard in me room? You know that underneath the stairs? Oh yeah. That leads into me room. Well if I had that out... the chimney breast out, my room'd be ten times bigger. Mm. So we decided that George is off again. we're gonna do that up. But I've got to have a maxi boiler first.... A maxi boiler? Mm. What's that for?
[Connie:] Combination.
[Joy:] Oh a combination but... well I don't know do I? Come on? A combination boiler. What for your... water and hot
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Have you got radiators then?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Oh we've got radiators. Central heating but it's a back boiler.
[Connie:] Gas fired isn't it? Back boiler.
[Joy:] Oh I see. So you want a balanced flue like... this one of mine? Yeah. Cos our back boiler's about had it. Did you shut him out? Shut him in.
[Rudy:] I shut him in.
[Joy:] Oh.... Come on then darling.... So erm... you see that's, that's why when we had... this we paid somebody to put this in cos the gas company wouldn't put my... my boiler right out the back. He said oh no, you've got to have it here in your kitchen. I said I don't want it in me kitchen, bloody great horrible thing like that. No. So erm... so we decided... I wish we'd have had erm... I wish sometimes we'd have had that radiator on that wall.
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Joy:] Cos it don't half limit you to having a radiator that length.
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Joy:] Yeah.... That And there's nowhere else I can put me furniture. Cos if you put... the suite, the settee over there it's gonna absorb all the heat into the settee. That's right. You're the same with, you're the same as us cos that's where my radiator is, underneath the window. And all it
[Rudy:] That's where they normally put them.
[Connie:] That's where they normally are.
[Joy:] That's right. But you see I, I'd have preferred it on back wall. Mm. But there again, having it on back wall where stairs is, it's still gonna make... you're gonna still be putting things in front of it.... In er in my room. So where else is there to put it? Really. I mean that's the only thing in here... you can't put... I mean I could do away with me birds and have another single chair standing there, but it shortens your room That's right. all the time. You see that's what's happened with mine. My suite's far too big for that room. Far too big. Well this one is a wee bit I think.... So I wouldn't say so. I wouldn't say so.... It's just that I sometimes think oh I'd love to have a change round but But y yeah you can't cos You're limited cos that wall is wasted really isn't it? Mm. And this wall's wasted cos of this. I mean you can't put that settee here because it... it blocks that door.
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Joy:] So that's the only place it can Yeah. really fit.
[speaker002:] Mm.
[Joy:] Mm so... I wanna try and get it decorated this, this year.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] It's getting ever so yellow. Mind you, we all used to smoke. Mm. The girls come. Surprising how dirty things get when you smoke isn't it?
[Connie:] Oh it is yeah.
[Joy:] Oh aye. What are you going to do Joy. Are you taking wallpaper off? Mm. You're gonna take it off? Oh yeah. I'd like to halve it like, like erm... erm... I've done me bathroom. I'd like... a nice plain one at the top and a patternedy one at the bottom with a nice thick border about as wide as that all the way like on the dado. Mm. So erm... and then it really wants, it's it's up here where it's so Yeah. getting dark. But this takes quite a few rolls of paper.
[Rudy:] Yeah....
[Joy:] What did we say, fourteen?
[Rudy:] I don't know. It's quite a few....
[Joy:] You're talking about sixty, seventy pound. Mm. To do it at the cheapest. Oh yeah.
[Connie:] Yeah....
[Joy:] You used to buy Viv two rolls of wallpaper a week didn't you? Keep her quiet. Mm.... Used to love it. Did you?... Love paper, what you loved the art of wallpapering? Mm. Did you? I loved painting and papering and... having something... to achieve at end of it. Mm. I used to love to sit back and see it done. Whereas now... I mean then I could afford to have done it. I mean in flat, you'd have loved my flat wouldn't she? You really would have loved it. I can't live in the muck of it all the while. I hate it. No. Yeah that's what's getting to me. You see now our Judy's gone, I mean she weeed everywhere and... there were nobody had got the heart to... to do anything about it.... And... now we've come to stage whereas... I mean I were cleaning carpet... every minute of day. Mm. Just mopping up after her. Well you've gotta be clean erm Stop scratching And er getting back to that and cleaning it with a real good clean every single week. And now, I mean... I'm wanting to do, I I've got it... to stage where it's comfortable. But I haven't got it to stage where I want... want, I want it like now I want it like me flat. Mm. I really do want it like me flat and I can't get it like that. Sometimes you can't do it that way though can you? They don't they don't No. there's... the sh I mean the shape... that, that bed in my spare room, it's really filled the room right up. Whereas originally I didn't want a bed up there, I wanted a bed settee. Yeah. One so that I can... go up there and sit and read and erm... sit and knit and er learn to type Mm. and do me studying. But
[Rudy:] I mean for the price of that bed, I mean you couldn't go far wrong though.
[Joy:] Oh no. It's a lovely high bed isn't it? Yes it's, it's got four drawers.
[Rudy:] Yeah underneath, yes.
[Joy:] Yeah. It's a, it's a lovely my I give twenty five quid for that. Eh?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Well if you ever get another one, for twenty five quid [LAUGHTER] as high as that... get it me and we'll send you the money straight down w in fact we'd be down for it. Twenty five pound. That's with the headboard.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Oh my giddy aunt.
[Rudy:] I went to fetch it in the van.
[Joy:] And the mattress is like new.
[Rudy:] In that little van.
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Good grief. It's just two pieces.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] And the mattress. four drawers. You see it's it's high whereas... I mean I bought a high bed, but even my bed's not as high as that. Have you seen that one up there?
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Why do you like a high bed? Just the getting on and off of it?
[Connie:] Mm.
[Joy:] Yeah it's easier for me to get in and out of bed of. Mm. Higher it i well the lower it is Well you can see how new it is cos the cupboards have never had nothing in them I don't think cos they're just, there's not a mark in them. The lower the bed is, the harder it is for me to get out. Yeah. He has to pull me out. Drag me out. Whereas... if it's at high level I can get me legs out. Er yeah. Let them dangle on to floor. And then Let the circulation go. I'm I'm... I'm like that you see, I'm straight on up. And only thing I do is get hold of windowsill to get out, and I'm alright. But if it's a low bed... You've had it. there's just no way. He has to... hoist me up. Mm.... Well as I say I went out and erm... I thought, well Jill phoned and she said... at the time my mum had got a boy that was sleeping rough down the sandpits. Erm, with nothing. No... no covering or nothing. He were only a young boy, seventeen year old. His mum and dad kicked him out, they didn't get on together. So erm mum went down one day and he was there and she said... he were with my sister's boy, they were both sleeping rough. And my mum said to Adrian I don't like you sleeping down here. She said it's bad enough... you know, being er sleeping rough without sleeping down here with nothing. So... she, she phoned Wendy and said you know, this is ridiculous. So they got him a tent, and they put it at the top of my mum's garden. And then erm... eventually Adrian got a job. He worked at the hotel didn't he? As a chef.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] And the other one, seeing as it was like September October, getting cold, my mum said well the bed's empty, you might as well come in for the winter and stay here. But erm... he sh he went about... did he go just before christmas or just after?
[Rudy:] He left just before.
[Joy:] Can't remember when he went but my... my sister wanted to come down but course she couldn't come to mum's because he was there. And I said well if y why don't you come to us? We can always make a bed, you know, for a couple of days. And erm and say I went shopping and I I saw that and I liked it and I thought oh... I'll go in and ask how much it is, he said give us twenty five quid for it, you can have the lot. So I said well that's fair enough. I come home and told him.
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Joy:] He went and fetched it up for me. I phoned Jill, I said I've got a bed for you. I went down and bought... a quilt and new pillows. Only cheapy ones but, you know, enough to cover. That's all you need isn't it? But when the heating's on you don't need much No. So erm I was thrilled to bits cos that long cupboard that's in that bedroom, that from the same person that we got the table from. Mm. So we're really pleased with that cos it's absolutely ideal. But it's... too big for that small room really. Yeah. But I didn't want it down here. And it, that's the only place it could have stood, there. Mm. And again it would have been... it's wrong for this room. You can see it's That's right. Yeah it is, yeah.... But er so there's always things you can do. I mean I'd like to get... I'd like to get some more... pots and things for the patio and fill them up and I'd like to get a trellis on the... side of the house with all flowers and that on there but It takes time doesn't it? You've gotta do it when you can afford it. Mm. We went over my sister-in-law's erm... I you, you've never met Joe have you, my brother? No. They've got a, they've got a... a house in erm... Rotten Row in. And erm... he's got a massive paddock at the back of his garden. Erm, oh you could get what? Six bungalows on it couldn't you? Easily.
[Rudy:] six.
[Joy:] Eh?
[Rudy:] six.
[Joy:] Yeah well you're talking about four and I'm talking about six bungalows. I'm trying to give you an idea of how big the field is. And erm... they started to... develop the land all round Joe's cos there was nothing behind him, only fields. They started to develop and they found saxon bones. So they've had five years... this is not re, this is not... just recently. As now, yeah. No this is going back about... ooh ten years ago. Mm. So of course they couldn't do anything. And erm my brother said well you've gotta give me some... they told Joe nobody had got to go on it... from his property and nobody had got to step on it because. So Joe said well it's no good you doing that. My kids have got a paddock, where they play. They kick the ball, it goes over there. He said they're gonna fetch it so you tell me where I can go and then I'll make sure that the kids don't go. So it was a law. You know they, nobody ever went only Joe. They'd g got these white flags Well he's not had a holiday since our Craig was thirteen months old and we went to Ibiza Why? and we've never had an holiday since then. Why's that?... I, it, I, twice two years on trot I've booked for him to go with me, and he won't go, he cancels it every time. So I said that if he, if he went with Rudy, I know he'd have off... and he just grins don't you? Toe rag
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] He's a little toe rag. I'll tell you what, I love my holiday when we went on our own and it's the best time we've ever had. I find I relax more when I ain't with Rudy because er Yeah he can be so stubborn sometimes and, and you know the other bores him, but he won't and then it pulls me, I want to do what the majority wants to do and then he don't and I feel guilty cos I think oh I should be with him, but Well as I told, told Rudy and apparently we both the same, I'm not a sand seeker, I
[Rudy:] I, I, the trouble is with me
[Joy:] I liked to go on it
[Rudy:] I don't like to get stuck in the place on the same open road, and I like when I go on holidays right
[Joy:] You see it
[Rudy:] I like to get out, you know
[Joy:] mm
[Rudy:] do things out, you know, this is me, because this is what a holiday for me is, is all about get away off the regular routine of
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] you know, thinking they will, oh christ you know what am I sitting down here for doing that anyhow, I could of been done that at home before I didn't have to
[Joy:] Yeah, that's right I mean there's no point in going away and, and sitting on beach
[Rudy:] That's how I look at it
[Joy:] and just
[Rudy:] Oh I go down beach for a few hours really
[Joy:] that's right, two or three hours
[Rudy:] I mean which we did the last time we went we went down the, the beach and so on down the
[Joy:] Oh I
[Rudy:] we had the old beach beds and we eat out over there
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] and it's really nice.
[Joy:] I mean that when we went to Italy, when me and our Terry went to Italy last year... erm... first thing in the morning we'd, we'd have our breakfast, then we had a wander round... and then we went on beach, two or three hours in and out at the there and then we went back had a shower... went and had something to eat cos it was only like bed, breakfast and evening meal, went and had something to eat and then sat around a little bit, got up and had a walk, find a where we were going, I mean it were, it were like concrete but it were so nice, er, there wasn't er, er... there wasn't anywhere where you could go. But you see the difference being you don't drive do you? No, so we couldn't Well you see get out and about when you go into the villa, A you've, got to have a car because there's not a shop and B you're a long way from the airport and if you get taxis you're talking about fifty pound a touch from the airport, so that's twice, so there's a hundred pound gone already That's right, yep so that's all it'll cost you for a car Yeah so you might as well have a hundred pound for a car
[Rudy:] Got a car then you can go everywhere
[Joy:] can go everywhere. That's right. Because if you go down to the shop it's a thir a ten, a ten, ten pesetas
[Rudy:] Yeah ten, ten quid
[Joy:] which is a fiver
[Rudy:] a fiver
[Joy:] That's right and then that's a fiver, and then you've got the worry of and you got you got to go shops because when it's so hot things go stale you've got to have That's right fresh bread every day in Spain yeah cos bread goes, although she's got a freezer and a washing machine and everything at the villa, so she's, she sold her house in Jersey and they're gonna do the villa up because they, they've sold it Christmas didn't they? They sold it Christmas Eve day it was gonna go through the twenty third, Christmas, the day before Christmas... erm it was gone and they were supposed to fly over to Spain and they were gonna, gone, exchange a contract to sell it and then she phoned me back and she said I've got some good news for you, we've decided not to sell, it's so beautiful up there and it's called Los no, Los, mm
[Rudy:] Erm Los Aldos
[Joy:] Los Aldos
[Rudy:] It means the height
[Joy:] Yeah, but, when you're up there you're in the eagle valley, and you get all these beautiful eagles right above you just soaring all over you, they're beautiful aren't they? The birds and it's so peaceful, I mean you can go out the villa and walk and walk and walk and walk all the way up to the mountains, you could walk so far you could nearly cross over and go to another village right up the mountains, just keep walking and walking for ever, or you could go into the
[Rudy:] If you're enjoying yourself, enjoying myself I mean, we like to go you know, like place like museums see the history of the place you know
[Joy:] Yeah, yeah
[Rudy:] things, I mean where we went to we wanted to go to the erm... where they make the wine and so on
[Joy:] We wanted to go to the Bri, Bristol Cream and Sherry
[Rudy:] Bristol Cream Sherry, factory It was right there and you know and
[Joy:] We went to the see the erm Thing's like, I like that cos when we went to Italy we went to that Madam whatever, it's a big erm... hyper, like a big hypermarket so it's called
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] duty free
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] and they've got everything in it and er they do wine tasting and, and all this lot and you know their, their cheeses and that, they've got all that then. We went to, I think it cost us nine pounds from where we were stopping in Lido to er, to go to er where this Madam
[Rudy:] Yeah you can drive down, drive from Marbella to Gibraltar it's all along the coast beautiful seaside sceneries
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] it's all these place are and, what is it, an hour and ten minutes? Comfortable easy drive.
[Joy:] An hour and ten minutes to Gibraltar
[Rudy:] To, from Marbella to Gibraltar and it's places that you can stop all along the way
[Joy:] Porta Bonosa s just er the other side of Marbella which is erm marina all these oil wells
[Rudy:] Yes
[Joy:] and all the oil that millionaires [LAUGHTER] came out though
[Rudy:] king this and king that and prince
[Joy:] Oh yeah
[Rudy:] they come in with their big
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] some of those, some of those yachts there make the Britannia look like they should
[Joy:] Oh yeah There was one there Cle erm it was called There was one there called Joy and it were worth
[Rudy:] Oh Christ you're talking
[Joy:] sixteen million
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] you've never seen nothing like it Is she worth sixteen million? [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I'll tell you what Viv if you went across there and you see them luxury boats
[Joy:] there. It's no good sat there saying... if I see it, we've got to get some
[Rudy:] We went, we went up the mountains er a fabulous hotel
[Joy:] either this year or next year
[Rudy:] that, we went up there as in actual fact we were looking for certain place when er the postcard we had wasn't it, wasn't the cows given us trouble and we went
[Joy:] Mm
[Rudy:] and then we started speaking to this chap and say we were looking for this place where the erm, they sell all this food and so on, what's the name of the place, he said oh he says it's finished, so he said you know where the er, we said er where's somewhere good you know to, to go and have a nice sleep, and he told us about that place up the mountain where we went, where we all went the last time
[Joy:] Auckland
[Rudy:] Auck Auckland and we went there and we went into this restaurant well believe it or not, I've never seen food like that, I mean Joy asked for a leg of lamb, I didn't say leg of lamb, I had the cod pieces
[Joy:] Oh no your talking about Venavae
[Rudy:] Oh Venavae that's right, yeah... and the chap brought over a whole leg of lamb
[Joy:] A whole leg of lamb, yeah A whole leg of lamb [LAUGHTER] a whole leg of lamb
[Rudy:] yes
[Joy:] it was all in rosemary garlic butter
[Rudy:] oh dear
[Joy:] that was your dinner, a full leg of lamb Oh great
[Rudy:] Yeah and we had, we had, what for starters you know
[Joy:] Oh we had prawn cocktail
[Rudy:] prawn cocktail
[Joy:] whatever, apple pie and fruit
[Rudy:] liqueur and li liqueur after that and I things like and how did it cost us? It must of been about what?
[Joy:] Well it weren't a tenner each
[Rudy:] It weren't a tenner each, must of been... I would say about six quid each
[Joy:] I think the leg of lamb was four hundred pesa erm eight hundred pesetas which is four quid
[Rudy:] Four quid
[Joy:] and then your starter was about well your starters are dear because sea food is That's right, yeah but didn't thought of that you could eat at anywhere in Spain for less than a tenner any day
[Rudy:] Yeah...
[Joy:] then you go, er Val's got places of interest booked in her place where if she's gone somewhere like, if she comes home and gotta a little book in the cupboard she might then, then the place, follow the road to the so many kilometres, look to the right you'll see such and such follow the road round to the right and you'll find it, go to restaurant Alpalo or whatever and Yeah and eat in there, and erm oh she says, she marks, she writes down all the market days, when you just the market and you see the fruit
[Rudy:] Most days
[Joy:] avocado's sort of eighty pence for a kilo I've never eaten one of them in fact... I wouldn't know what to do with one because avocado
[Connie:] Last time you had a
[Rudy:] you would
[Joy:] in fact
[Rudy:] they were all share drop down the sale
[Joy:] and now a little
[Rudy:] and when we went back again he'd even, I know
[Joy:] They'd gone
[Rudy:] it's one night, it was like, but, even better than our and old you know
[Joy:] It'twelve
[Rudy:] round the sides where they've got the drunks tucked up old steel rails all around
[Joy:] mind you
[Rudy:] if, if, if, if, it'll take you, what is it that'll take us to go up there? Before maybe two hours
[Joy:] mm, more than that
[Rudy:] and know you can do it in less than an hour, right to the bottom
[Joy:] and then on a
[Rudy:] to the
[Joy:] and then on a Thursday night you go up, we go up to a place called Pia
[Rudy:] Yes which is nice
[Joy:] Oh which is one of the most oh it's amazing
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and they flamenco dancing and you can eat along the
[Rudy:] in a big open square
[Joy:] pat patio on the, on the, erm Virgin Square or somebody or other and they have all flamenco dances ooh, ooh all different sorts all different groups
[Rudy:] You get the
[Joy:] and it's, and then you can book up and go and eat on the verandah or you can eat in one of the restaurants and just walk round and sit on the, any of the seats. Oh You see Pam and them was going to a bull fight but I don't like I don't like bull fights, erm I don't think I, I could cope with one of them No I don't think anything else but that You see when you go down the bottom of the sea where the villa is you just go over the roundabout, and it, you just go straight over and that's all the... What's the sea Pacific? Mediterranean
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Mediterranean
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] all the way, you look one way as far as you can see and you, when you go to Gibraltar you're only a few miles from Africa
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Are you? of Africa
[Rudy:] on the Peonies on the Peonies
[Joy:] you can go over to Africa on a day trips from down there, but you have to have a full passport you can't
[Rudy:] that's right
[Joy:] go on a yearly passport
[Connie:] Right oh
[Joy:] so it's, you have to have a full passport, well we were gonna do it this year but Robert and Wendy only had a yearly passport
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] didn't they? So we didn't get over, there's so much you can do, we went to the erm, er to see the dancing horses, you know the dancing horses Mm
[Rudy:] The stallions
[Joy:] Penny that come today she's a horse fanatic, she's only just sold her own, her own horse, but oh they're out of this world, absolutely, weren't they, they were just stunning.
[Rudy:] Absolutely, the things they get those horses to do.
[Joy:] You go up to which is a long ride it's nearly four hours away from the villa weren't it?
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] We left there, we left about half five, six in the morning didn't we and we were getting lost in and we knew it was in the village in that town but we couldn't find it and we kept getting lost so we all pulled her up and he went back and he said to this man can you tell me where the
[Rudy:] Went in this yard this place had oh lovely gates and I walked through straight up to the house and ring the bell, and it's
[Joy:] Because we asked, we come to see the horses and he said well if I tell you he, he, he was English weren't he?
[Rudy:] Yeah, yeah
[Joy:] He said you go down here and down there and he said down
[Rudy:] down here and you've gotta turn right at the
[Joy:] he said I'll tell you what, all this messing about get in your car and I'll come, so he got his car out the garage
[Rudy:] he got his car out, beautiful Mercedes
[Joy:] What?
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and took us to the dancing horses and then
[Rudy:] took out and showed us how
[Joy:] just dropped us and waved to us
[Connie:] Have a nice day
[Joy:] yeah ever so friendly, mind you you find people like that though, you know don't you?
[Rudy:] I mean you want to see his house I mean it was set back off the road and you see the people pull ploughing you know round the entrances
[Joy:] Ah
[Rudy:] and then, they, how they've got their money from their own blood, not everything up there you know
[Joy:] was he, he was coming over from er South Africa ain't he, on fourth of April, me mum's eighty on first of April and he's coming on fourth. I wanna see that then the bungalow's got four, five bedrooms?... Four or five bedroom bungalow and all trees in garden
[Connie:] Because I don't know, I don't know where, where South Africa is getting to, I hope they're going to something stronger
[Rudy:] It's not the sort of place I would like to live and have
[Connie:] He loves it
[Joy:] He loves it Is that his own house then? No it's er, no it's er What does he work out there?
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] We've not seen ought
[Connie:] He's my boss
[Joy:] Is he? We've not seen yeah
[Connie:] He hasn't been home for twelve months
[Joy:] It just means, no
[Connie:] once
[Joy:] but he, he, I mean we've not seen him... he's been away four years, I know he's been coming home first, for holidays, visit, but he's not been at home because, well we moved into that house, if you remember we moved that's right, but, when we moved into that house... erm... I conned him I says er are you gonna give us er ten quid for a new house? To buy some mud and he says considering he's gonna I says my god I says it'll never be known that my brother said that you can be anything and that was first thing he ever gave me. You see, what does he do again? He, does he own the company? Well he had shares in it, or something he said... So how's that you're still with the same company you're all are you away from home as much as you use too be? Are you? Are you?
[Connie:] I'll travel it tomorrow I
[Joy:] Do you, and where are you this week? You, it all in different places? I get worried when he does things because when he's working like he's working and he's travelling like he's doing... I'm, he goes Monday morning, he comes back Friday, by the time we've done our shopping Saturday, he's, he's, if we go out Saturday night it's what, eleven, twelve o'clock or more, it's gone twelve o'clock usually after he's gone and he's back up then. Do you work every night then George? And he travels with it and I'd rather him not.
[Connie:] I do more this job, yeah
[Joy:] Do you? I'd rather him not travel it, I'd rather him stop here on Sunday and not come home so that he's got ample rest, cos he's not getting it... I, I, I dunno, I, I might be wrong, but he moans at me cos I knock me out, he says to me you'll kill yourself, you always want to do something, but to be honest it's worse for me to sit there and watch that, it's more tiring because by the end of the night I'm not tired or I've been asleep all evening I, I'm better to go out, I know it sounds awful but I don't like being trapped, I don't like being in because somebody seems to think I should be in Yeah that, and, and, I mean it's probably better for George to do what he wants to do, rather to do what he don't want to do because we used to be in the same predicament when we were doing cabaret, we'd go down to London on the Saturday, we'd leave here what about half three, four o'clock, so if we stayed in digs, we'd be finished work say midnight, we'd be back in digs for one, then he'll go up till seven the next night yeah, yeah I mean what do you do I mean, your ok you can go to bed, but there's only a certain amount of hours you can stay in bed cos then you're wondering and wondering and won so you're more tired trying to find something to do so we That's right we made it straight away, we were working Saturday and Sunday in London as soon as we were finished I always used to make us a pack of sandwiches about six or eight didn't I? A massive great big flask of coffee and when we got there we stopped and had a sandwich and a coffee, and we'd go in the club, set all up and we'd sit quiet and then we'd have a quiet drink wouldn't we? As soon as we'd packed all the stuff in the ba van we'd have the rest of the sandwiches the rest of the coffee or another cup of coffee and then we'd get on the road and even if we'd got back for four, by the time we'd got home and, and had something to eat or if we didn't want nothing to eat, watched the telly for half an hour and get to bed, you've got from eleven till sort of three or four the next day which is just nice because you're in your own home That's right. But you think it'll kill him from one o'clock in the night till seven o'clock the next morning, it's, it's ridiculous and financially were no different because you've got to pay for digs you've got to pay for the petrol That's what he says, that's what he says, but I I mean driving isn't, driving is not necessarily to the right sort of people, you enjoy driving it's a shame you don't drive because then that way you will have your Saturdays free because you could get your shopping done and, and be done. That's right, yeah. And then it'll give you the time just to relax together but I mean that, that's why I say, Rudy hasn't got a clue in this my mum's seventy five, how does she get back er ten pound of potatoes and all the week's shopping, I say well I'll go and then he moans at me cos I'm running around after everybody else but
[Rudy:] True
[Joy:] Yeah, but, no, no, it's exactly the same as them he couldn't be bothered, I mean my mum's eighty and, and she can't get out now and he can't the same you know with me, but I mean end of day you've got it to do Of course you have. I mean I've got to look after her Mm... I get worried sometimes for him. You see my brother Joe is wrong, he should have, he's a workaholic, and they're doing sixteen hours a day and they're working, can you imagine, and I mean my youngest brother Brad who's working with him said er Joe don't stop, a week, no a fortnight la, a fortnight last Sunday... they had to put a... not air conditioning... yeah it is air conditioning unit in Smith's in Staines and they had to whatever happens they had to get it working for the next day, it's got to be in and working and they worked all day, my brother, my eldest brother Derek weld it for nine hours non stop, to the point where Brad our, my younger brother and Joe had just working in the same room as him welding all them hours... You've lost your you've lost your The dog has got it
[Connie:] I've lost me
[Joy:] Like erm, like Maureen she's erm... she's worried for Joe, she says he don't stop, he don't, but you see the difference being is it's Joe's business and it's as he said, some people don't pay you for twelve months, and a lot of your money has gone out before you can get a chance to get it back in Back in I mean they don't put, they don't, I understand in, in, when you've got your own business like Brad and them, well our Joe can't be hard up he does a job and it brings him thirty grand in Mm I said yeah, but that thirty grand he's got to he's gotta wait for he's got to wait for, plus the fact that he's probably spent twenty of it out getting equipment
[Rudy:] That's right
[Joy:] That's right, yeah then you know, they don't believe that
[Rudy:] I don't know
[Joy:] he said well you know
[Rudy:] my boss you see my boss isn't very workaholic at all
[Joy:] Mm, his boss is the same
[Rudy:] he's in there every morning before eight o'clock and he don't leave there much before half past six, sometimes seven o'clock, and then the workers goes in on Saturdays and if he knows there's nothing to do just walk around a crowded place and but I mean he's a millionaire, and that's how, I mean this is the difference between probably between him and Joe, I mean he don't depend on money to come into this
[Connie:] No
[Rudy:] cos there still an so great in running different and so on, every month their money is straight into the bank all their cheques come in straight into the bank so he'll, you know, and I mean our pla, and the whole of the site nearly is let out for different people, you know, which is money coming in all the time
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] you see?
[Connie:] Yeah...
[Rudy:] But I mean you know he's a workaholic and he expects everybody to be the same and then he works in there by the time I get there in the morning he works, works solidly right through until I leave there at night, you know.
[Joy:] Yeah, but you see then he's at fault... I mean like yesterday he come in he said he's got to drop off at Milton Keynes and he said I, I, he weren't due to be dropped until what half past ten?
[Rudy:] Half past ten
[Joy:] And when he got there the bloke said oh just pull up and go and get it done now, I said now any other man would of gone in the cafe and thought right, I would of been drop now till twelve
[Connie:] That's true.
[Joy:] and he being dropped at sort of nine o'clock
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] he went straight back to work
[Rudy:] Yeah but, yeah but you see
[Joy:] you see he always makes an excuse but
[Rudy:] no it's a, it's, it's, it, it, it is not like that I'm making an excuse, I always think ahead and look ahead right, now I've got a phone in my cab, all the other lorries have, you know, a mobile phone, right, how he know I'm supposed to give the drop off at half past ten right, that's
[Joy:] yeah
[Rudy:] if I finish on road in the right, they jump in my cab and I decide to drive away and he phones and then he can you get the so and so erm driver for me on the phone, so he calls me up, oh we've got load of them he said
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[Rudy:] I get back to the phone many time later you know... see, I can't be late, because then I would be lying cos I'm just home and I want to get pick up so and so, so and so, I know, you, I think drop myself in the you know
[Joy:] That's right, yeah.
[Rudy:] Whereas if I had a, a, a phone in my cab, right and he, and he phone me etcetera etcetera at night, ok it will need for him to phone the firm then because he got me direct
[Joy:] That's right yeah, yeah. But I tell you what you don't get any badges nowadays for being honest, I know that much. Well, no, I'm afraid not and it's, it's a sad state of affairs, I mean when you see
[Rudy:] Well I see
[Joy:] of when you've got to be a rotter to get on but I'm afraid that's how it's gonna be Well that's all, that's all that it is, it's all the rotten people that are now getting on.
[Rudy:] But as I was saying to George the other day
[Joy:] Or selfish
[Rudy:] and, and, and you know, he's that sort of bloke, he's a very nice bloke and he's got a heart of gold and he's saved us no end of the money ain't he, since I've been working for him?
[Joy:] He's saved us a lot of money in one way, but he don't pay the wage
[Rudy:] This is what I said
[Joy:] I mean
[Rudy:] so I suppose one counteracts the other
[Joy:] Compensates yeah
[Rudy:] compensates for the other
[Joy:] yeah, yeah, I mean I know which one I'd rather have yeah the that's right, yeah, that's right, yeah, I mean it's, it's, it's, disgusted when you know a bloke for this firm and all this money that he's got, can't pay a man a living wage, so... but it's a decent as I say, he's lucky to be got a job these days. That's true, that's very true I mean I know that now because I never thought I'd be on the scrap heap, but sometimes I really do feel as if I am Yeah because er, when they say how old are you and you say forty nine, they say oh well we, we, we were really looking for somebody a bit younger
[Connie:] Mm
[Joy:] and you think to yourself how can you, you know, I'm prepared to work cos I'm I mean she said to me when I went for this Men Mencap job she said erm, have you got any trade behind you? I said well I can do everything in the hotel trade from housemaid to housekeeper to barmaid, the only thing I haven't done is managed one but I could do that if I had to and I done, done booking of the reception and I've done bar, I've done diner's room, I've done kitchen, I've done I've done chambermaiding, I've done housekeeping, there ain't many other things you can do... and then she says and what about cooking? I said well I, I'm a confident cook, I've cooked from meals all round the world you know, and she s and erm, she said oh that's worth knowing, now the some, some of us can't even boil a bloody egg, I mean it's, it's ridiculous, you think to yourself what's, what's it all about at the end of your at the end of the day Yeah so, you've just got to have to, point is I'm not gonna try and get big going, but I'm, I'm just, I'm trying to think of how I'm gonna get myself motivated again to get back to work Yeah... and that's what it is gonna be motivated, but at the end of the day there, the, the people that you work with they ain't worth a I know that's true I'm afraid you have to be like them cos, to survive yeah... I mean I don't know about you, but if I, if somebody drops a spoon in the restaurant I can't help but Pick it up pick it up that's right, yeah Most blokes say they don't give a you know, so what do you do, do you follow your instincts or do you follow the law?...
[Connie:] Are we gonna push off?
[Joy:] Yes, dear.
[Connie:] Get me coat
[Joy:] till about nine Oh well you've still got a chance to go and get her ready duck. Are they? You
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] he weren't gonna miss going out tonight were he? I think you don't know going one
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[Joy:] He's staying in. Look, we'll come up one night, one Friday night... done this job for a long time won't you? We'll stop Friday night, one Friday night when you're doing none.
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[Joy:] Oh, well anyway, well, we gonna Marbella again, how's about that.
[Connie:] I finish, I finish at one o'clock on a Friday
[Joy:] Do you?
[Connie:] I'm back home for half past two
[Joy:] Oh well We could be up here for er
[Connie:] tea time
[Joy:] Yeah, on Friday what? Give us a ring when you're not doing nowt
[Connie:] I think we go up
[Joy:] Well you give us a ring when you wanna come, I mean I mean Friday night we don't do much anyway you know, I mean it's like everything else if I don't, if I say to mum, mum we've got nothing to do, I mean it's like everything else you can't afford to go out and do what, things that you would like to do, but you know like bingo and things, so we al, we get a game of cards going just to stop the rot and the boredom Yeah We play dominoes more than cards at the minute though yeah I mean it's only just to, just to do something otherwise you just sit here and you think it's, you're stuck here from morning till night and all you can do is keep going round, I mean I can keep working here Oh I, you could always find a job to do can't you? Oh yeah, oh there's hundred's of jobs want doing round here again, but you do the same ones over and over again and I think to myself what a waste of a day.
[Connie:] Mm
[Joy:] Cos at the end of the day you've worked hard and you ain't earned nothing that day. Oh yeah, yeah. So that's what we'll do. Well you let us know when you want to come down
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] it's as simple as that... well then we can go out and have a drink with you, weren't fair, we weren't gonna stop this long were we, we just popping in to see Happy New Year. It's a long way, it's a long way to come and pop in... see... without you knowing him as well as I do he, he, Rudy's so hard to move, I mean I'd love, I've said that Stick a bomb up his backside oh, I used to say when, if we were living in England now, we could go Scotland for the weekend, we could go to the Lake District, we could go to the Cheddar Gorges, we do nowt. We will have to go to the Lake District my darling. He's just such an old bore. Because, I only ever so it See people say to me you've got to do, well you've got to remember one thing Joy, Rudy's older than you and I think to myself well if he don't wanna do it you know that's, that's his problem, so, but Yeah I'm not very
[Rudy:] They don't find drivers I have to do blooming miles and miles, suffer all this sort of thing, you know.
[Joy:] That ain't, that ain't basically it, you don't wanna do it, that is the main thing, I mean you never been one for wanting to go, I mean even when we lived in Jersey and you ain't got any idea how small Jersey is, Val and John used to come to us, but we never went to Val and John's, it's hell all mighty getting him out, if I don't go on me own, I don't go. Oh, you weren't like that years ago though were you, when he was stopping out at bloody four o'clock in the morning... I come round Joy, I've come round I know he'd be here knocking on the door, arrive early
[Rudy:] I wouldn't of got to work.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I would never of bloody did that time, every time she says anything is about the sleep night that we had. I blooming late night...
[Joy:] Mine was the noise
[Connie:] I'd like a double of that.
[Joy:] We used to, we used to, we used to have some lovely card nights, he never plays cards, we, we have a game of Trivial Pursuit when we go to Spain he'll join I've got a game he'll join in then but he wants to I bet you, I'll tell you what I've got a game and I will fetch it down the one that Sue bought kids for Christmas oh god you can't buy it, well you can but it's thirty pounds, thirty something pounds to buy. Dingbats? No... Pictionary no... no it weren't Pict,Pict, erm no it's not that.
[Rudy:] Cluedo
[Joy:] No it's not that How do you play it? Tell me and I'll tell you... It's a board about as long as that, that's all you've got in it and then there's all these cards and questions and what have you... And how do you get the questions done, do you write, draw pictures It's questions and answers, I don't know, I've forgotten, I, I, I only opened it up and had a look at it at Christmas and I thought thirty something pounds for that, a load of rubbish, I don't know what it is. Not Dingbats? No
[Connie:] No
[Joy:] Is it
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[Joy:] Dingbats, I think we've got Dingbats and Pictionary and we've got miniature Trivial Pursuit, you know, the travelling one, where you Oh I've got the big one of that Yes, but you, this one you've got some little bits that you spin it round and if it lands on a colour you, it tells you what you've got to, then you've got to put No, I got and er, Trivial Pursuit. But you see when we're in Spain we sit rou,rou of the swimming pool and we play that and everybody, everybody will hear you know, who was the Prime Minister of India between the year such and such a, and were saying Mahat Ghandi, me hat and me coat
[Rudy:] Me hat and me coat me jacket and me hat and me, all sorts
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] what with me hat and me coat [LAUGHTER] and er where's me Ghandi and all this and then somebody from the other side of the pool was saying it so and so, so and so, then he said couple of old you know [LAUGHTER], spin it again and you I forgot, I'll fetch it you down anyway, next time We've had some real, we've had a real good So did we
[Rudy:] We use to dig er, we use to dig er, we use to dig er, dig the old ice box over with the drinks in it, ice with the orange juice, and gin and tonic and all bloody sorts
[Joy:] Home made sangria, we'd leave it in the fridge you see
[Rudy:] Sangria and we'd have it, yeah
[Joy:] then he comes home, that's what he likes to do potter around the house, well I don't want to potter around the house when I've been stuck in for twelve months. No... oh we'll have to get motivating him then. You can't motivate him, I've tried, in the end I just Oh, he's got to get motivated cos if we're going away we got to save some pennies up and if we commit ourselves then we've got to save pennies up, it's no good coming and saying to me you're going away next week, I shall turn round and say sod you matey we're not cos we've got no bloody money. It'll be harder to get to the villa in some respects because Val and John, Val, Val's husband's retiring in July, he suffers with his dreadful headache, and they're going to spend ninety per cent of their time in Spain, but she did say whenever I want to go, as long as I let them know they'll come home cos they're gonna buy a house in Chesterfield and er she said whenever we wanna go, they'll come back over to their house in Chesterfield, so, we I mean you were, you were it's just a matter when I get a job, I mean well that's it.
[Rudy:] Alright they don't want to go to Chesterfield then we thought they could come here, look after the house, look after the house the same as we'd look after it, and Val said this
[Joy:] Yeah as I say Pam and her husband are going back down to villa erm in June... I mean Val wants me and Rudy to go down to the villa, they're going from July to the end of September this, this year, probably for longer, but erm
[Rudy:] I made up me mind holiday, cos I've got four weeks holiday to come now, this year... and that's not, that's not
[Joy:] I was gonna say, but you see
[Rudy:] counting the Saturdays and Sundays and so on
[Joy:] its, it's, it's the same Saturdays and Sundays, I can't get him out of the house... and yet soon as we get there we have friends and family and they say, keep saying come on, come up and see us, I went up in the mini on me own one day and spent a couple of days with her, but, it, it ain't the same when you go on your own, I daren't go too far in my mini because it's, it's erm, it's not a car that you can be hundred per cent sure of it, I mean as soon as it rains it stops anyway, we went out in it today and there's all water in the front of the, in the front, but
[Rudy:] That's your heater.
[Joy:] And me heater's packed up... that's the trouble with being out of work, when I'm getting behind with every, by the time I start work we'll probably be wanting new bedding, new towels, the house will want doing Mm take me twelve months to get back on me blooming feet.
[Rudy:] That's because I you have not tidy though. The old
[Joy:] I mean you'll spend just what you wanna spend in Spain, I mean like we, the night, when we went the first time, we took an ice box, but oh, we take it back, you don't wanna lot of clothes cos you, you literally need shorts, swimmies, there's all towels and that there in the villa, there's nothing to take in that, in that line only, only
[Rudy:] I say you only have to take something, cardigan it get's, it get's cooler at certain time of day and it heats up again
[Joy:] Only beach towels, you could, you could take everything in a, in a So what we done, we took a big bag full of food didn't we, like, every week somebody brings home another tin of ham, a tin of corned beef, tin of beans, or a packet of biscuits and then er, at
[Rudy:] bacon
[Joy:] yeah we went and bought a three pound, no a five pound pack of bacon didn't we right, right
[Rudy:] don't need to buy eggs, eggs over there
[Joy:] we took a dozen with us
[Rudy:] duck eggs
[Joy:] so that we got, cos say you have a lot of holidays, so that when we get there as I say we ain't gotta go out and shop and get stuff, we've got bacon and egg Well you just have to we take some of them part bake breads and some cheese and biscuits and a great big packet of cheese and, and you just you know, you can either just sit there, but the food, once you get down the food is so cheap you don't want nothing else in the heat. Well that's right you don't, cos I mean you don't eat a lot do you? You can have a nice cheese in a salad Yes, that's right, bread and butter and eat at night
[Connie:] Yeah
[Joy:] without any cooking. I mean there's no point in going away to be stuck in else cooking blooming meals is there? Oh no I mean that's how I was, I mean and that's
[Rudy:] And this is what, this is what we like to do you see enjoy yourselves
[Joy:] That's what we like to do but Pam and them don't like
[Rudy:] We like to go out
[Joy:] food, they're, they're non food people, they don't wanna go, all they want to do is get something in their stomachs, we don't, when we go oh I like to eat the culture, I like the
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] paella. We went to this restaurant one night up in the mountain, he was starting to tell you, we walked in and there was all these people about eighteen and twenty sitting in the middle of the room and we went in, and it was late, it must of been eleven and we said you know can we eat and he said yes, yes and after he said, he said fancy the paella he said no problem I make paella so, I mean all of half an hour went by, but we went in and we had paella and then all these people started dancing, they moved the chairs back and they started clapping and singing and dancing and I said is this a party and he said no, no, he said it's because it's so hot in the houses, they've come out to eat because it is so hot in their house, in their home and erm and yet in the end they were, they were coming round they were singing, dancing, clapping and they got all us going as well
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and that was the only one night we never took the video camera with us
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] we had a fabulous time, didn't we?
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] Just off the cuff like that. Yeah, well I mean it's always the unexpected Oh yeah that, that, gives you enjoyment, I mean other than that I mean if it's all pre-planned oh yeah you don't enjoy it half as much, I don't think. Well the thing is it was like Jersey, we lived there for twenty, twenty years didn't we? And, and you think to yourself oh we've seen everything, but I used to get pleasure in taking somebody to the potteries because I knew they hadn't seen it and it would be like ooh, when they got there, you could see the shock, the surprise in their eyes when they went in there When we went to er when we went to Austria, not Austria the year before we had a trip out to the that er big factory at that er crystal factory Oh yeah and that I've forgotten what you call it... oh the stuff in there were oh, but you couldn't afford to buy it What
[Connie:] No
[Joy:] You know you can buy them in, in London, four pound they were Oh they were a lot more than that weren't it?
[Rudy:] We bought these, we bought, we bought these up the road er, they've got a big er ceramic place there, any imaginary thing at all you won't
[Joy:] No No I think we bought these in the pottery half of it's erm, in er, oh not where the big pottery places that ain't the Rhonda, the Rhonda's where the, this
[Rudy:] Not, not the Rhonda I mean oh yeah, I know where you really mean, yeah
[Joy:] not the Venice
[Rudy:] no it's, it's up from Venice, Quan
[Joy:] Quan
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] Quan, and this massive great pottery
[Rudy:] and this big, yeah
[Joy:] Whereabouts understand the They're nine, nine hundred and fifty pesetas each that's
[Connie:] Which is four pound
[Joy:] well thousand of francs is a fiver
[Rudy:] just half of that is a fiver...
[Joy:] And then like the smaller ones although they, they twenty five
[Rudy:] Yeah, but it's still a you see, I, I wove the basket
[Joy:] and that little basket on there
[Rudy:] I, I and I sew this
[Joy:] they're Spanish They're Spanish, oh I've been admiring that tonight
[Rudy:] and I bought it only cost be about what, I think we said er, what less than a pound each, them two ash trays and er I saw them on a rack and they were
[Joy:] Georgey did you see the bought me? Well what was the first one we made? Jug and jug and
[Rudy:] cups, and all to go, to go with it
[Joy:] Oh they're nice oh they're beautiful them The sangria jug and then there's six sangria cups to go with it. Sangria you have all fruit in it you know. We like, we, we like that don't we? Do you? Yeah you like, you, he likes the one that without sugar and I like the one with sugar
[Connie:] No I don't, I don't
[Rudy:] That's the same
[Connie:] You, you didn't like that one that me and Brian had two
[Joy:] Oh no I didn't like that
[Connie:] well that was what
[Joy:] Yeah, but there weren't, there weren't drinking yeah
[Connie:] our Brian and he went down and got him
[Joy:] But you see there's a lot, there's so many different ways of making sangria, I mean you can make it real rough like just cheap wine, what it should be, cheap wine, sugar and, and fruit, I don't when I make it I put rum or whisky liqueurs sugar and erm Tia er not Tia Maria, creme d'banana or something like that, yeah and erm plenty of ice cubes
[Rudy:] Plenty of ice, yeah
[Joy:] and leave it and then er it's, it's the fruit that makes you silly.
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] The ones that I, I enjoyed and then there were ones that he had oh that were horrible, it was vile, yuck... I didn't like that. I made one out of a pale wine a ros wine as well, the girls don't like the red wine, but they like the ros wine I don't like red wine... see you like the ros then do you? but that really. You see in Spain you buy packets of wine, they're like
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] thirty pence a packet for a pint, so you buy six of them Oh it's cheap innit?
[Rudy:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] Oh yeah that's why, that's why it's Spanish cos it was, the fruit is cheap the wine is cheap That's right and that's why they make it, it's only punch after all innit? Yeah
[Rudy:] When we go down to the market and erm, what they call it...
[Joy:] Porta Man Curit I mean Bwangdirola
[Rudy:] Bwangdirola you go round there, right
[Joy:] You get a kilo of cherries for sixty P
[Rudy:] One, the one section, one section of it, it's all women clothes and lace ware and beautiful clothes and so on, you know it's a market but you know and little places of pottery and so on and then the next section you go down this old market, there's a old big square and you walk on there and you're talking about, you go to buy avocados over here, you're buying sixty and seventy pence for one, and you're paying sixty pence for about bloody six over there
[Joy:] For a kilo
[Rudy:] and they're bloody great big things like that.
[Joy:] Steve made me laugh he said we'll have some mushrooms so me showing off I said erm, how much, how much did I, a kilo, a kilo of mushrooms... when I come back I got
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and you should, you should of said
[Rudy:] and you know mushrooms are so light
[Joy:] I should of said little
[Rudy:] half a kilo
[Joy:] I only wanted half, but I had a kilo, bags and bags and bags
[Rudy:] Cherries and grapes we got
[Joy:] strawberries
[Rudy:] cherries, strawberries, grapes the bloody lot, seedless grapes, grapefruit
[Joy:] you see that's what you
[Rudy:] Yes that right I don't know how they arrive at all their bloody prices over.
[Joy:] Strawberries are dear
[Rudy:] Yeah, oranges, they're beautiful oranges
[Joy:] And I used to
[Rudy:] Lovely big grapes beautiful oranges
[Joy:] we used to have nets and nets of oranges and we used to get up in the morning and just squeeze them
[Rudy:] squeeze them
[Joy:] and bits of ice
[Rudy:] fresh orange
[Joy:] ice in the make, nice fresh orange juice for breakfast, put it on the patio and
[Rudy:] yes
[Joy:] have some with toast and marmalade Mm and and plenty of drink cos the drink's so cheap out there yeah and er just to, just to sit, it was just that Penny and Kev and Pam and Grant have got different ways in their mind to where we are, we don't go anywhere in a hurry, I don't go somewhere and think oh I've got to be back at ten o'clock Oh no you know, and they were, as soon as we got out it was let's have dinner quick
[Rudy:] Yeah, yeah
[Joy:] and get back, that's what got him down, and I mean we don't when we go out we don't sometimes go out until ten at night and then have or nine and go out and have a drink and then you find somewhere I tell you what I, I enjoy doing as well I mean I've only done it while I've, I've been out er abroad... with gang of them, it's like, you know when everything's quietened down Mm everything's closed up, I love to walk in the nude well at night when we've come back from wherever we've been with Wendy, it was a ritual to walk round, cos on the, on the where the villa is there's the most beautiful restaurant you've ever seen Oh don't get me wrong I don't like doing this every night. it's a Swiss restaurant, it's closed innit?
[Rudy:] Mm
[Joy:] And then in, in the front you can go and sit there before you sit and have a Their son had his Sierra broken into and erm... er... a good thing, no were not actually there. Got it back, there was erm a blanket in the boot and when they took the blanket out it was all ten thousand pounds worth of drugs and needles and everything in it, so the police have took it all back and they've written it off, so they've got a new Nissan, a Bluebird
[Rudy:] Yeah, it's fabulous
[Joy:] so erm, as I say but
[Rudy:] But you see the parts of these cars now, right, like erm, what you say Nissan and blooming Toyota's and so on, right, they've got their factories open here
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] if you went to Burton-On-Trent I think it's Toyota, you ought to see the size of that blooming place, er it's right huge where they're manufacturing cars, eventually, well probably now parts of these are, are, are going to be cheaper. They're going to be cheaper for the English market but they'll have to put on their prices for the export market for those that are going out
[Joy:] yeah
[Rudy:] the company expect this
[Joy:] yeah
[Rudy:] but don't these Japanese factories who their idea now are, are they about to tend Ford's are blooming, all these people are are gonna start suffering
[Joy:] Well Vauxhall are suffering already aren't they?
[Rudy:] Because they're too, because they're too blooming expensive
[Joy:] yeah... Jill was saying they made another twelve redundant at Creda... Graham's jobs changing all over when they go back at Easter Mm and er I think Lee thought he was losing his job didn't he?
[Rudy:] When is Easter?
[Joy:] It's late this year it's about the end of April innit? Yeah... mind you, we're nearly the end of March now Yeah and that's another thing I found I had a letter from the Social Security saying would you please send your order book back you're not entitled to any more money, your sickness benefit's run out, I thought it can't have, I don't go back until the twenty fifth of March, phones up for the appointment I got it on the fifth of March, nine days ago Oh so I'm gonna have to try and get up early tomorrow and get a definite appointment with doctor if Does she not find no what she say, is she well enough not well enough to do that, so I'm not looking for a job yet, she said your nerves are all she, keeps checking me for the thyroid as well now, every time I go... and the tablets are all going haywire, she takes a blood test, a blood thing you know, your pulse every time I go
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[Joy:] Well at least you know what is responsible for half of the things that have gone out yeah but, it quite such a burden is it? no. See what he's doing with his fur, look... scratching and it's going off and, he knocks his fur off and then it falls, falls out... look at him the Yeah probably, if er
[Rudy:] Yeah probably he has to scratch
[Joy:] wouldn't make that if you it's cos he went up mum's the other day and they've all got it but I don't like yeah but if they get it in the fur though get him a flea collar The trouble is, if you put, I bought him one, but it knots all his fur up well and it's a hell of a job getting them knots out of his fur, it's a real problem... Benji he knows he knows his name, you ain't been walkies today have you?
[Rudy:] He did have one today all morning came down, I think he came down and all of a sudden blop, he was back with him, he stays out there all the time when come down.
[Joy:] He likes his he's fed up with old age, he wants to go for a walk... you've been walkies today?... He's so soft
[Rudy:] Have you, have you been in your garage yet with sold on, what you can sell and what you can't sell? Oh well you half a bloody greenhouse
[Joy:] Mm
[Rudy:] you don't wait until the last because I say if he's got a key and he can get in
[Joy:] Well he's got a key
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] and he bought a key
[Rudy:] oh
[Joy:] but the policeman said there's, there's no way he can just walk up there and come in the house Yeah but who is to say he won't if he's go to
[Rudy:] Yeah he's got a key
[Joy:] Well I don't, I don't have to give him a key as long as I let him in, you don't have to have a key, but he can arrange, he can arrange for me to be there
[Rudy:] to be there
[Joy:] and the police said all I have to do is phone the police and say well he wants to come and look round the property can I have a policeman there cos I don't want
[Rudy:] so he's not allowed to take anything out
[Joy:] yes, no
[Rudy:] well if I were you I would start sorting out if there's anything good in there that you can make a few bob out of
[Joy:] mm
[Rudy:] you can sort it out
[Joy:] Sell the yeah
[Rudy:] you sort it out and
[Joy:] That's what we said yesterday you should have sold that car Yeah although the cops
[Rudy:] I tell you what
[Joy:] said if I would have sold that car next to nothing I would have been done for it Was it? yeah, it went for, four. how much did he sold it for do you know? Don't know, no... But your solicitor will sort that yeah you, if there's any money to come back on that he said that will all look bad on him he said if he sold it and er don't I, he, he said he's got two choices, he either sells that car and pays off the loan in both your names or he, he sells that car and gives you half
[Rudy:] half
[Joy:] and he said and if he sells the car and keeps all the money and spends it on himself he says that's gonna look, he's gonna look really bad oh yeah... but you know what he was taking out of his bank that's what he to do with yeah
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[Rudy:] and that's what he they'll get into the, they'll get into that garage right, so they look and see things they didn't know that they can make money on
[Joy:] Well there's, there's erm, there's er erm hydraulic jack in there with all the bits, brand new that's in there
[Rudy:] Tell you what if they've got a hydraulic jack in there, several people have to buy it off him, the boys will buy it off
[Joy:] there's, there's a, a small jack red or about as big as that like that
[Rudy:] What, the jack?
[Joy:] and it's got three ton
[Rudy:] Three ton?
[Joy:] Yeah, that's there
[Rudy:] There, I'll tell you what, the garage, were always looking for blooming things like that, that's what they want to
[Joy:] Oh I, I know that this, this little jack takes more weight than the hydraulic one... and he's meter in there ain't there? That, that real nice electrical meter what they call them, erm What like Daph's? yeah, I ain't
[Rudy:] after that you want to put all your, wanna put it in a box of, and see what you selling and then if there's anything that's then you won't I don't know what he took, no one here, full stop, they can't say well he can't say well I left it here either and he's got any proof
[Joy:] no
[Rudy:] you sell them it and make yourself a
[Joy:] there's some very there's some odd, odd tools up there
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] Pete also said you'd, you'd be best to keep your drill, your electric drill drill, cos you never know when you're gonna need a drill, then I'll show you how to use that... yeah, yeah
[Rudy:] I've got bloody drills here and all sorts you don't want a
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[Joy:] Yeah make yourself some money, Kev was looking for a drill, but the trouble is you... you don't get your money off Kev will you? Mm I don't know what else is up there Er you want to let him have a look yeah take him over Pete, Pete
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[Joy:] Have you got your money off Rachael yet? No, I've sent her book back, I've got her book it's going back Why? They've altered all the money again haven't they? I had, I had a letter, I had two letters one for her and one for me saying would you please send your book back for her and mine send your book back cos I ain't qualified for unless I phone them up tomorrow and say look, you know, I, she, if she keeping on the club she'll go backdate it Will she? Yeah, all I've got to do then is send, send it in and I'll phone them and say well can I cash it up and still on the club and they'll say yes... but I'll have to get up and get round there tomorrow then... She's good though she's kept mm she said she would didn't she? yeah... I don't know where it's all coming through now I tell you I said to that bloke today well how, how long am I gonna be before I go to court, he said it could be two years away Did he? Yeah Well that's ridiculous he said well it all, it all depends how quick you want a divorce What have they said about your divorce then? Nothing You've not heard nothing about it? No I can't understand it, what if some people with families been evicted or chucked out or whatever?... Seems strange don't it? Mm... Oh I've put in for one to pay the erm interest on the mortgage, which I have to do and that's all being seen to because I've had another letter saying can you tell me what this second loan were for and I've put down yes, it was for windows and sent a bit of paper er, you know, that we've paid four thousand seven hundred and something, five thousand, nine hundred and something we've paid for them windows and I've spent that They get paper first before you sending them money No, but I've asked for them to be returned, it's only gone to the D H S S in Wellingborough... Your aren't half losing weight though... still you ain't getting your down periods now are you? No, I only had one Coping with this morning You did? Mm What over that? Yeah Yeah, but, I think that was more shock than anything Yeah
[Rudy:] Oh that reminds me as well what your how you getting on better down, you know, your poll tax business, are you getting any relief on the cheaper unit?
[Joy:] Course I'm not
[Rudy:] You're not?
[Joy:] Of course I'm not because you're at work... Oh there's I can't understand that either, they ain't getting no relief off of their poll tax and yet they're, yet she's not at work and he's on the dole, and they still having to pay full whack. I says to them
[Rudy:] Is that true?
[Joy:] that's not right, I said you get, you get twenty per cent reduction off
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] they'll get sixty percent sixty percent, I'm expecting a bailiff at my door any day
[Rudy:] If, if, if, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's two of you living in the house right... the poll tax isn't paid by one person, it's each person is, is responsible for their own poll tax
[Joy:] No they're not
[Rudy:] No, if one's not working and the other one's working, the one that isn't working's supposed to get relief on it
[Joy:] No, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're totally wrong dear, because as long as one's at work As long as one's at work you're responsible for mine and if I'm at work I'm responsible for yours, I wrote to the D H S S
[Rudy:] Mm
[Joy:] I had a paper to say and they said there was too much money coming in here a week, because you were working that I couldn't get anything and I, it said, I wrote, it, it all come when I wrote to say could I have relief off of prescriptions cos I was on that H I V at the time
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and they said no, I weren't entitled to it No I'm not entitled to, if I'm, I'm entitled to pay up to eighty pounds on a maximum dentist treatment, which is a hundred and thirty pound A hundred and fifty pound. I could pay, I would have to pay the first eighty somewhat and I would have to pay the first ninety, ninety somewhat on a pair of glasses... I had all this then it went and then it went into If I if you've got people in prison and then you had to go visiting you, you could get relief after, after the first twenty five pounds, so if the expenses were going to see somebody in prison were more than twenty five pounds I could get relief with them...
[Rudy:] Er how could I, I mean, is there a I mean there's so much of money coming in the house every week
[Joy:] I'll kill him, they don't worry, they don't worry about what, what bills you've got going out, I E a car on H P or your or erm furniture on H P, when you're on on the dole you're you ain't supposed to have had any bills incurred whether you still pay them tax wise they now I've still got my redundancy money I weren't thirty days without it, or I'll
[Rudy:] Yes, but this is not, yeah
[Joy:] save mine up
[Rudy:] this is not a this is er, this is er, erm, how do they call it? I think it's imposed by, by the laws of England
[Joy:] Mm
[Rudy:] right, this whole tax business, this is not a thing when you incur the they've stuck on you, right... so I mean alright, I'm paying, I'm paying my food if you work it out this year, right, Joy keeping her dole right, this one, say having this whole thing out, right, she'd pay right, I bring home wage, right believe it or not I'll tell you it's about between a hundred and eleven and a hundred and fourteen pounds a week, that's forty and ten, that's a hundred and fifty pounds a week, right, now if she got to pay poll tax out of that, right, what she's getting which is twenty odd pounds a month
[Joy:] Mm
[Rudy:] I've got to take twenty odd pounds a month, right
[Joy:] and forty
[Rudy:] that's forty
[Joy:] that's fifty pounds innit for a month, so that's a month No that's a month so it's fiver a week
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] fiver a week
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] plus your rent
[Rudy:] yeah, plus your rent
[Joy:] plus your gas and your electric and your living
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] you know, you ain't got nothing to live on at the end of the No you've not
[Rudy:] so this is what I'm saying how come that the she's still got the poll, we have to, got to pay poll tax at that rate because she's not working
[Joy:] Mm, they told me though that there's too much money coming in the house, you, you, you're only allowed to have I think it's about sixty something Yeah pounds from to get any relief if any of it's well I know when, I know when Alan and Jade were both made emplo, unemployed and Alan withdrawal his dole and when Jade was unemployed they took the dole off Alan and give him sixty pound a week which was you know Income support income support... so the dole I had, I had a letter the other day saying that I'd been paying thirty nine pounds, fifty a week to live on, but I've been entitled to fifty five pound something for low income support so are they gonna backdate all that and then get their I reckon they'll have to, yeah they will have to surely, that's their error... they'll have to They said a, a normal person living on their own is only entitled to thirty nine pound sixty a week and that's what I've got in that book, but I don't think they realise that I I'm on me own and I've got a gas, electricity and everything else to pay out of that...
[Rudy:] I don't know how, I, I as I say I can't figure it out how they work it out though because I mean are they
[Joy:] I don't know whether they I was so annoyed I thought to myself If you go down Citizen's Advice it's all done, on a big, on a big board down there what you're entitled to
[Rudy:] You would have been, you, you, you would have been better off paying your normal rates as you used to pay
[Joy:] Yeah, yeah
[Rudy:] than in actual fact because they're making a
[Joy:] that's what Kevin and Cindy said their rates on that house were a hundred and something pound a year, their poll tax is nearly four hundred
[Rudy:] Four hundred
[Joy:] they're paying three hundred and eighty pounds, they're paying
[Rudy:] Yeah, they're better off paying the normal rates
[Joy:] said it's ridiculous
[Rudy:] and they've stopped this on you and they expect you to pay all this amount of money I don't know
[Joy:] Yes, we did have some good news about that court case, about that accident we had, it's all been thrown out of court What car accident? You know we had an accident along where we opened that car door and that cyclist Oh yeah hit us in the side? Well they got to court without a solicitor cos they weren't entitled to Legal Aid, and now you see that's another thing, they're both out of work, they weren't entitled to any Legal Aid, so they had to go on their own to court
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and explain the situation and the court said oh well we'll take it to the magistrate's then, then he had a letter two weeks later saying that it's been thrown out again, they haven't got a case cos she were in the wrong, she's never, ever have gone over round the left hand side in the first place, but she must have been in the wrong so they must have seen it as well, they haven't really got a strong case so they threw it out of court and last week he had a letter, he opened it, from the, from the court, and he thought oh gawld here we go again, he's got jury service, oh How old is he? Oh right, I'd love to do that So would I, it's in April I'd love to sit in it said if you are on the dole or unemployed or whatever you must take this form down, because he's entitled to
[Rudy:] So, so, so much per day
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] or whatever it is, yeah
[Joy:] yeah, yeah, for, for, for fee, for a, for a meal
[Rudy:] yeah
[Joy:] I don't know why, if he gets put on a murder case he's there for three weeks in a hotel, it's easy he said well I, you'll be able to come over if you want to it'll be like sitting at work, no one will know
[Rudy:] It might be, I think in actual fact during your er, I think it might be a waste of time, but I think it's probably advisable to try and find out a bit more about this
[Joy:] I've been darling, I, believe me I've, you ain't gotta do it Well I've got to go down tomorrow, I ain't got a clue what to do. I rang, I rang, I went to the dole office, when I went down I ask them as soon as I left Ann said the same, go down the dole when you ask about your poll tax, they said to me we can't give you any id, er anything, you have to phone them, council building site, I phone the council building and they asked me, that's why I sent all your wage slips in for
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and that was for that, then I had a letter back to say that we were having, there was too much money coming in a week for me to draw unemployment and then they, then a few days later I had this double page letter a big one that says you are entitled to no prescription help, X amount of pounds after erm eighty pounds per glasses you are responsible for the first eighty pound, we say that you can afford to pay that, so much on your teeth, if you're visiting somebody in prison then you exceed a certain amount of mileage you can only get it if you exceed more than twenty five pound incurring, then I thought oh blow it, forget it, and I never done it, that all come to then, that's why I wanted a ten of your wage, wage slips... you remember now? That's it.
[Rudy:] Yeah, a hundred and eleven pound a week
[Joy:] Oh say, say about my fault, I shouldn't want to pay
[Rudy:] I, I tell you what I've got more money, I've got more money than that and after I've been, after, after I've paid, after I've paid the tax
[Joy:] and I'm not, I'm not paying mine before October cos as far as I'm concerned it was paid, he has my wages
[Rudy:] out of that and my National Insurance contributions, that's all I come out with
[Joy:] Mm So like I even said that to the coppers today I said he's been handling seventeen hundred pounds near enough near as damn it That's right a month, I've been here none, my poll tax weren't paid, my mortgage owed three months, what's it, been three months in arrear Of course your wages were six hundred and something Yeah and he were coming out with eleven eleven hundred, eleven eleven hundred, yeah, yeah eleven hundred and sixty, seventy and you had a bit more nearly, nearly, nearly seven hundred pounds a month a month and he had over a thousand, one hundred a month Yeah nearly eighteen hundred pounds a month Did he now? and yet the mortgage was three months in arrears, no poll tax paid, no other bills paid, all he's paying is the gas, electric and the water rates I just don't see how they can waste that money, but there you are, I said that one day, I, I put down that fact today well I couldn't believe it when we went to Jersey and he was out of money and I couldn't believe it he ain't got any money and you were well he eight hund, how much he owed eight hundred pounds
[Rudy:] No five hundred quid
[Joy:] overdrawn? Well he, he's on himself hanging over his car because he said it's, it's, that it was an inconvenience cos they were late for work, he suppose to be getting a taxi into work every day and back, but where's his proof that he did? He declared He's declaring that he's using a taxi and it costs him a hundred and sixty pound a month, every day back and forwards to work, well everyone knows that's a lie cos she takes him to work
[Rudy:] You ought to shop him for the income tax then
[Joy:] I'm gonna... As I say he's getting away
[Rudy:] Last word will be I said oh well, what I said to him well where the receipts to prove this paying this taxi, right
[Joy:] I ain't got that, nothing
[Rudy:] well which, or which taxi firm you've been using
[Joy:] mm
[Rudy:] and they get for the taxi books as well
[Joy:] mm
[Rudy:] because I'll tell you what when they send a probe in, they go through every blooming thing with a fine tooth comb
[Joy:] You can't believe where they know all what they know from
[Rudy:] er
[Joy:] you didn't, it, it That Colin's come up today and he said, he said, did, erm, Dick do the job for you? I says what job?
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] He says on the car, I says it's nothing to do with you and Chris, he said what about you trying to, you were going to break into his flat then and erm set light to it, where'd they get my information from?...
[Rudy:] You see, I mean, what happens is erm
[Joy:] I don't know
[Rudy:] If, if, if, if Jersey right where I used to have the, Joy used to have the house because this is once a year, there's not right... they knew exactly how much money I was banking, how much money was going into the bank, I they always say, they always turn round and say well the bank is not su supp supposed to divulge how much money you've got in the bank now, now how did they have any ah? I don't know if they do the same over here
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] where the bank is not suppose to disclose how much money you've got in that income tax man had go
[Joy:] that copper man had told me this morning
[Rudy:] because you're suppose to declare what you earn
[Joy:] What you earn, yeah
[Rudy:] for a year and pay the tax out of that
[Joy:] yeah...
[Rudy:] right
[Joy:] mm
[Rudy:] but how did they
[Joy:] they'll get, they'll get you
[Rudy:] When they start probing you, they go right back and I mean they went back what ten, twelve years didn't they?
[Joy:] About twelve years when I was in Jersey
[Rudy:] Yeah... yes
[Joy:] It's frightening what they did to us. Well he said to Dave that a policeman hasn't got the clout to phone up the erm... driving place you know in London where, where you thought that, what's it called D L V C
[Rudy:] It's the
[Joy:] yeah, to see if that car's been sold, stolen or whatever and yet a solicitor come... he said your solicitor will be able to pick up the phone, take you through the right channels, see if he's sold that car, he hasn't sold the car, who's he sold it to yeah, everything. He said that's what you've got to do first thing Monday morning, find out where that car is, he said, and then you want half the money
[Rudy:] seemed that the police and we've got a in theft and fraud and
[Joy:] yeah
[Rudy:] things like this, but regards to the fact that when, when something is sold to somebody right, erm, and then a, and, and the person who's selling it receives the money, I mean the person the police can't do nothing at all about it unless fraud comes into it
[Joy:] I mean, he, he said about come up mum's with the, and he snatched my handbag and he took the keys, he said that copper has got no rights to tell him to hand over them keys to me, I said what and he snatched them out of my handbag and I've got no rights to my own house keys and I said what rights have I got to do, down his flat and collect half of my stuff back then?
[Rudy:] Yes
[Joy:] He said you've got no rights at all, I said so what rights has he got to coming in my own home then, he ain't paying for it, what rights has he got to it? What he say? He said well he's got rights because he owns half of it, I said owns half of it but he ain't paying for half of it. That's right He says no, but he, he, he still half owns it, he says his name's on the lease, I said but it still don't make it right that if he, if he earned half of it then half the bills are his Half the bills, that's right
[Rudy:] Then you've got to pay half the bills
[Joy:] Yeah... I said well I earn half of it as well then and I've worked for half of it, but I ain't paying the bills either... Seems, it all seems strange to me He said it'll all come out in court, he said he, he won't get away with it Who said that? Oh that copper, he said he, he said the thing is he said what you've gotta do is give him as much shit and aggravation as you can possibly give him, keep him hot and keep him roasted up he said because what happens is he's getting along, long and he's thinking oh I can do this and I can do that and I can do the other, he said but if you can get your solicitor to keep him on his toes he ain't got time to think about nothing, he said and if he has done that job himself, he's laughing at the moment, I said well he must have done it...
[Rudy:] I think that, I think in actual fact, that the only thing really to do is if... he doesn't want to be himself do something else and then he won't do it ever again
[Joy:] And then he should sign it all over to me
[Rudy:] He should sign it all over to you and say alright I'm relinquishing all responsibility
[Joy:] But he can't do that, until he's paid up every penny he owes I was gonna say
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] if she, if she gets it all signed over to her she signs all the bills over
[Rudy:] but you see yeah well then
[Joy:] he can't do that anyway, for him, for him to sign them deeds
[Rudy:] no
[Joy:] and everything over to me, he's got to be paid all the loans completely off plus the mortgage that's in arrear, that, that house got to be round to square one with a, with a fourteen thousand pound mortgage and that's it before he can sign that house over to me Yeah That means that the two loans that he had, he can't sign them over to me
[Rudy:] And that was on the house?
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] Oh well
[Joy:] he can't sign it over
[Rudy:] No he can't
[Joy:] to me even if he wanted to
[Rudy:] I didn't know whether he had two loans or not or whatever it is because
[Joy:] Yeah he had two
[Rudy:] that if had relinquished all his responsibility regarding the mortgage and so on and signed it over to you, then you could have turned round and say alright that's it, I'm going to sell the house
[Joy:] That's right and there's nothing he could do nothing about
[Rudy:] and if the house was, and if the house is, if say for argument sake that the house after... you've sold it, you've only your, er fourteen or sixteen thousand pounds to pay then and you've paid that off, right, and the house was sold for about forty thousand
[Joy:] Mm
[Rudy:] right, you've made yourself a, your, twenty thousand anyway, then you could probably buy a, a nice little two bedroom bungalow
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] for about thirty thousand or something like that and then go back to work and just pay your own mortgage off
[Joy:] Yeah, but I can't do that
[Rudy:] but a, as I say if it's, you know, if he gotta pay off all this money first well
[Joy:] Well you're such at the minute cos you've got, you're sitting in your house Yes you're in care of bills that he's, he's responsible for anyway mm he's gotta be, you wanna make sure that that electric bill I'm going back down, I'm going down there Monday
[Rudy:] Good
[Joy:] say I give you no authorization I'll fight I don't want mail coming to my house addressed to me, my husband is still in charge of these bills, but you don't change it over, I shan't open them I shall just return them back to you, frighten them. I mean that's like they went into Nigel's and put that erm Well that's that's why the gas, gas and electric leaflet men come up with them for me to sign, I said I'm sorry I'm not signing them and I wouldn't sign any of them and he went back and he said alright then we'll leave it in your husband's name, I said yes you'd better had cos he still owns the house, yet all those bills have come through, I've had water rates come through in my name, I've had the electricity come through it's in my name, the only one bill that was never in his name, never has been is the telephone and that's included... But I say that, they've got no right to just change your, your name over, I mean, basically, really and truthfully when we got this place Rudy weren't on, on, he never signed on on nothing No when this place come it should have been in my name weren't it, because he never done nothing for it no Yes, no he were never even on the bills, on the papers no... where you?
[Rudy:] No
[Joy:] Never even knew I was the one
[Rudy:] but all the things, everything that comes now comes to Mr and Mrs, you know?
[Joy:] Yeah, that's right
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] the only thing that doesn't is my telephone bill, it comes sort of under I F, which is if
[Rudy:] Which is if I'm a
[Joy:] Yeah... but erm, I, I can't understand why because when I put in for the my, my house I didn't put him, he weren't even on the pap paperwork and all of a sudden he, he
[Rudy:] They only
[Joy:] had half my name as well he was pulled in, I mean
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I went, I went all out to get this place in nineteen eighty three
[Rudy:] It seemed that
[Joy:] he didn't know nothing about it
[Rudy:] what, you see, what, what happens you see, I mean... all my re all the transactions here are done through banker's orders you see... and the banker's orders they, they won't know who, who ever it is going to be responsible you know, but you've got to put down the wife and, and yourself, see
[Joy:] Mm
[Rudy:] but this is where, where it goes back to the, to the house
[Joy:] yeah
[Rudy:] as Mr and Mrs you see?
[Joy:] yeah. Yeah, but you see that's why when Tracy come to me saying she wanted to, to exchange her council house I was annoyed because I said no, I got that council house for Tracy it's in her name Mm
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] if she relinquished that name and puts it in, in name name yes and anything breaks up, Tracy's lost her home, she'll never get another one
[Rudy:] No
[Joy:] I fought for them two, to get that home for her, so I said no, the only way you'll do it, and I, when she were on her own, I said, not that I don't trust Nigel, I do, but you don't know what's gonna happen in ten, in ten years time, I said I fought for that house for you, if you exchange it, you exchange it in your name
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Well she come up the other day, they wanted to exchange Kelly's old house for, for, for her, somebody wants it er part exchange Kelly's house, you know then go and Mm I said, she said it's got an extra bedroom, Okay I can see that she's got an extra bedroom and they can perhaps do with one now that they got a boy, but, I said, you know, don't, what have you got what you've got, you know at the minute Yeah she said she's had all her own central heating Yeah done all her double glazing Yeah all her kitchen, all her new bathroom Yeah what you moving out for? In another twelve month's time
[Rudy:] Yeah, I mean the boy gets, the boy gets as the boy gets older obviously the council will look into it because you can't have a wife sleeping in the same room
[Joy:] Two boys That's right
[Rudy:] as a boy, therefore why don't they
[Joy:] but as I say that's, that's the only thing, but then on the other hand they can't fall out with me will they? No Before I lose that home I've got, I'm
[Rudy:] I know, I know...
[Joy:] so
[Rudy:] bloody stupid, look at him
[Joy:] Well I shall hand it back, if I'm a single person, I'm entitled to one of them single people's bus then aren't I?
[Rudy:] Yeah... but as I say it's the same as when you know we come over when we went up to the the place, I mean, the chap down at the housing down there, try to say to me we made ourselves homeless
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] I said how can you make yourself homeless if you've been evicted?
[Joy:] that's right
[Rudy:] You have made yourself
[Joy:] but you see they do, You were evicted from a country weren't you? From another country
[Rudy:] you, you, you, you get, do you we've never owed rent
[Joy:] but that weren't no fault of your own
[Rudy:] we never owed any rent, that was done through banker's order as well
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] to, to
[Joy:] yeah but you see
[Rudy:] I would like to say
[Joy:] they didn't understand the cultures of another country and how it works and it was as simple as that, it was only until that I got all the paperwork from Germany that the letters and one thing and another, but somebody in there said to them well you're talking rubbish cos the girl's telling you the truth
[Rudy:] The truth
[Joy:] Mm, mm and then and then Miss said you'd better come down and we'll have a talk about it, I've learnt a bit more about your ex country
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] So, then, then we got into it he said I'm sorry I thought you made yourselves homeless, cos you just wanted to come home, I said no, way, I said we didn't even want to come home, I said we were very professional people
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] at the time, I said we were, I was doing sixty hours a week in me car, we were doing six nights a week cabaret and he was driving all day Yeah but I said why come home and miss a season like that in the middle of August? I said I didn't make myself homeless and he said no I didn't realise by November we, well we went down, that was the September and by the October we got our home didn't we?
[Rudy:] Yes
[Joy:] And we got, he got stuck into it, but, that's, that's how people, if you don't get somebody who's working for you, you'll get somebody working against you, and that's what I had, a good solicitor with you at the moment is, gotta be vital, I only hope she's doing her job So do I... oh I'd better go, thanks for a lovely dinner So what's Adrian gonna do now? Dunno, oh he's, he's what, he's been for another job interview and the bloke
[Rudy:] Has he left that job?
[Joy:] Yeah, the bloke in he's gonna let him know tomorrow
[Rudy:] I thought he was saying, I thought he said he was gonna stay in that job
[Joy:] He got the sack He got the sack, cos he got up and left his job... overslept and annoyed erm Rachael because she woke him up twice and said come on you've got to go to work, he said alright then, she, she went back to bed thinking he'd get up and of course he were still laying in bed, I woke him up at five to eleven, said come on you're an hour late, but when he got down there they said no it's no good you've got the sack, and he said well it's your own fault then cos you were woke up twice by Rachael at nine o'clock, he hadn't, he could have got up and gone to work, just idle... we met him twice, it really upset him Did it? Yeah, cos he's lost all his college as well ain't he? Is he?
[Rudy:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] Yeah, yeah Will he be back into Well he wants to, but I said you'll, you'll got a, you'll it's a long ladder to climb now and you'll never get another job like that Well he won't get a reference No I said he won't
[Rudy:] He won't get a reference see for reliability
[Joy:] No He'd have been better off to of crawled back down there and apologise Yeah and said well I'll do an extra shift, I'll do an extra week shift if you give me my job back... it's a shame Mm... that's what that girl's just said to me you get a lot of erm, she said he'll know it's hard and I was saying that you know I, I put all me eggs in one basket with that, I mean that really knocked me for six I've gone down hill since then, but she said you know these folks are hard when you've been out of work for a long while, you've gotta just get back up and fight again, I said, she said and I know how hard that is, but she said you know, if you can get it going and fit and get in, so Why she saying this? she's just giving, she's just give me an adult education centre there at Spinny Hill, Northampton and she said they put everything in perspective for you so that you know where you've got to start, what is available to you and then she said if you go down the job centre and ask them if E T, education, employment training Mm so they, just so they just call it E T, she said they can actually send you to a place where you can get you, your experience and er because they've sent you, you get an extra certain amount, ten pound a week, cos you're going through the job centre Mm but you got to have been out of work six months, so I said well I've been out of work six months, so she, I've got that to do tomorrow, so I get up the firm this Spinny Hill, Northampton, that's an adult education centre where you can go and learn the skills of your trade, but she said that might not start until September Mm on the course you see?
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] But if, with this job one, they could, they could say right well we'll put you in a mental home where you will learn your skills, but you will only get ten pound a week Yeah, I don't care about that, but at least I'm making a move at least you're getting a bit of experience aren't you? We're getting somewhere making a move Yeah and by the end of that it'll be, make me mind up whether it's what I want What you want to really do or not, ah
[Rudy:] Maybe one will send you
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] Right I'll see you later then Where you going now? Home Oh are you? Yeah Are you going near mum's? No I doubt it Oh... Oh really I ought to take my little boy for a walk You've been walkies today darling ah, you've been a little walkies today oh, oh, oh, oh Right I'll see you later then Alright love, alright
[Rudy:] See you later Yeah when, don't forget what I said get down in that garage
[Joy:] Yeah, I will, sort it all out
[Rudy:] yeah, and and sort it out, let me know and then I will take it down to work
[Joy:] Okay, alright then, I'll see you later
[Rudy:] Okay, yeah
[Joy:] Ta ta...
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] Yeah ta ta love...
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] Oh my baby, shall we get some din-dins?
[Rudy:] To, to, to get down there and try helping themselves
[Joy:] oh I know Wendy, she lives, where she lives Semi I know Wendy, I know Pam Pam... there's not a Pam is there? Derek and Jo Yeah I know them and Jill yeah, they had a big family
[Connie:] Glad old Pete
[Joy:] Well she eats well, erm, she's not too bad, you know, she's erm dad's been a creaky door for years and years and years
[speaker002:] Yeah mum told me that erm I mean he does well really I put my mum and dad's
[Joy:] Do you?
[Rudy:] Yeah first thing in the morning
[Joy:] Do you drive?
[speaker002:] No, [LAUGHTER] I failed twice
[Joy:] Did you? Then you packed in?
[speaker002:] I packed it in I thought what's the use I haven't got enough confidence Who'd the peeping Tom done then?
[Rudy:] Yeah, yeah, yeah
[Joy:] Oh
[speaker002:] so
[Joy:] so it's like traffic judgement then I suppose
[speaker002:] No
[Joy:] If anything happened at light you'd be mixed up weren't you? Were
[speaker002:] No
[Joy:] if you kept going
[Rudy:] You know they have the, you know the big banks
[speaker002:] yeah
[Joy:] But if you ain't got that, you ain't gonna be
[speaker002:] He's lovely
[Joy:] He's a lovely little boy, he's got a lovely nature You're a good boy ain't you?
[speaker002:] What you after? Get out, oh I You're not going up there, no, no, you're not gonna, what, he's lovely
[Joy:] He married erm, Charlie Yeah, me sister's married erm, Joy's sister Cheryl is married, she, she married her name is David
[Rudy:] You know they keep hatching it out
[Joy:] you know Pat Steven all of them in Park Avenue
[speaker002:] Oh is it Pat that's got the bad back?
[Joy:] Yes that's the one, the one who's got three stone that one
[speaker002:] yeah
[Joy:] That's right
[speaker002:] well she's, well Charlie said he David
[Joy:] oh
[speaker002:] well she's expecting in August
[Joy:] What
[speaker002:] What I come down there once to
[Joy:] Why?
[speaker002:] the factory, ooh about a year ago, cos I
[Joy:] Why?
[speaker002:] probably in that building there at the back but I couldn't see your
[Joy:] She gives half
[Rudy:] Yeah the kitchen people, yeah
[speaker002:] yeah, they still there is he?
[Rudy:] well they're not doing much
[Joy:] I'll tell, I'll tell you what that's, I think that's what's doing me up, it's not being out of work it's going out, it's the things that I mean normally
[speaker002:] Yeah, but I know
[Joy:] I get up do me hair, put a bit of make-up on I mean I know Cheryl I know
[speaker002:] four until about half eight tomorrow night I'm on my feet
[Joy:] so you're ready for a sit down
[speaker002:] and my back, my back, my legs ache from here I'm in
[Joy:] you'd be fed up sitting about all day and all night
[speaker002:] Yeah, but I don't want having it?
[Joy:] I just give it all away didn't I Rudy my knitting
[Rudy:] What's that?
[Joy:] she's saying she enjoys knitting I just gone and give a great big plastic bag full
[Rudy:] plastic bag full
[Joy:] oh eh are you like me you're always too late?
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] I give it, I'll tell you who I give it to Deanne do you remember Deanne?
[speaker002:] Yeah
[Joy:] I she? do you?... Wendy, Pam, David, Michael
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] no, I don't think I do
[speaker002:] Who Pam?
[Joy:] My cousin... Do you, when Mark kept going on driving me, well learnt me to drive...
[speaker002:] can drive, but she won't be quick enough to make a decision That's all it is
[Joy:] That's all it is, all it is
[speaker002:] when you get older you're, you're decision gets longer I did, I did get in his car I did in fact Yeah, well to make a decision quick and we sat and to make a right one and we sat on his
[Joy:] Well it's funny he's got, he's got his house right on the hill in Wales and er we went down [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] Did I tell you, you know, I often stay in Wales your boat didn't we? And I couldn't get out and I was gonna give you some of this wine that time, and I was on the way out I started his car up and set his car in reverse...
[Joy:] You've got two cars up there ain't you a mini and a green one ain't you? the yellow one, the yellow van is Rudy's, the red mini is mine, not the cream mini, up, the one to this one next door did you go and knock on her door to see where we were?
[speaker002:] Yeah, next door
[Joy:] Which one?
[speaker002:] Next door
[Joy:] Oh yeah had a hell of party when we got here you know
[Rudy:] No we don't
[Joy:] he came round here swearing at
[Rudy:] no we got
[Joy:] Rudy weren't about because we were building the conservatory, we were off to Spain the next day
[Rudy:] That's right
[Joy:] and erm
[Rudy:] there's me
[Joy:] I mean they take their
[Rudy:] there's Trevor
[Joy:] shoes off nowadays, but before the other time, he
[Rudy:] there's erm, darling
[Joy:] he er, said if you get your
[Rudy:] And Brad
[Joy:] door really, says I'll squeeze the floor for you so that you
[Rudy:] there's Charlie
[Joy:] it's got two weeks to set because
[Rudy:] right
[Joy:] the floor were all over everywhere
[Rudy:] right, we should have some big bowls as well, you know, then we'd gone so
[speaker002:] She'll see two years old in December
[Joy:] Oh yeah
[speaker002:] so we'll pop round when Erm he's had two
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] I've been smoking on and off like a chimney and then packing it up
[Ivy:] I broke this week
[Joy:] Why?
[Ivy:] I don't know
[Joy:] Can you see up there? Oh talk about doing some excavation, she's ever so nosy
[Ivy:] Is she?
[Joy:] Yeah, well, you've gotta behave, is she supposed to be up there, will he hurt anything? Are you sure?
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Some, some folks are funny cos they
[Ivy:] No, do what he likes girl. How you keeping alright?
[Joy:] Yeah, not bad
[Ivy:] I can't go up, it never registered, when you said hello are you alright and you said yeah, oh, a load of bloody boys and I can't picture
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] But I saw, I went into town yesterday, haven't been into town and I saw er, I'm just going up past the job centre I had to go to council about me money and I thought well I suppose I ought to make an effort and look in the job centre cos I, I ain't done because I've been in catering all the while
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] and I'm, I'm brassed off with him and I thought I'd know that mug face, it's Maureen
[Joy:] What in the job centre?
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER] I'm dying to stand behind Geraldine in the dole queue [LAUGHTER] and I said no waste your bloody time applying cos you won't bloody get it anyway
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] She said hello she said how's your dad? I said oh I'm afraid he died, he was cremated on Friday, she said ooh I am sorry
[Joy:] It
[Ivy:] she said that she'd seen Julie and Julie
[Joy:] Oh yes
[Ivy:] you know?...
[Joy:] I don't think many people are,
[Ivy:] don't ask
[Joy:] No, I mean it's, it's nothing, I rang erm Social Services this morning in Northampton and I got an appointment for an advisory thing on Thursday morning, erm, the women I'm going to see she retires on Friday, she said well I'll have to get you in quick, erm and she, they advise you on the, what you've got to do to get into what I want to get into you see, so erm I've got that to sort to do, I mean
[Ivy:] Well that's what you really want though innit?
[Joy:] I really disa
[Ivy:] Is she alright there, sure?
[Joy:] I was really disappointed cos erm I didn't get that one from Mencap cos that was in Rushden
[Ivy:] Yeah, because that would've been ideal.
[Joy:] Mm, I thought I'd get it, I really did think I'd get it and I went down with a bump when I didn't
[Ivy:] Did you?
[Joy:] Yeah, it knocked me for six
[Ivy:] hang on, hang on, I said look she said who, I said Joy, she said oh blimey is she, I said yeah, so he hung on a bit but he'd cos there's nobody there today
[Joy:] I could've come earlier cos I've been over Tracey's since quarter past one, as I was coming out the Jehovah Witnesses were coming out
[Ivy:] Oh where they?
[Joy:] and erm, I always have them in and have a chat, you know, I don't
[Ivy:] Yeah, yeah well that's what Pauline does sometimes when I go up she has them in for friendship, a bit of company innit?
[Joy:] That's right, I just, I always say to them you're welcome to come in and have a coffee you know, I don't really, I've got me own views, I'm not really interested in what you've got to tell me, I know all about it, but you know you're welcome to come in
[Ivy:] Come in that's right
[Joy:] and they come in and have a coffee, that's it, good boy, and erm, er, so, I, I said well I'm gonna have to go I'm going over to me daughter's she's just had a baby so
[Ivy:] So what did she have?
[Joy:] Another, she had a little boy
[Ivy:] Oh
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] she alright?
[Joy:] Tyler she's named him
[Ivy:] Oh, she alright?
[Joy:] Yeah, fine, her new, her new erm fella's lovely
[Ivy:] Is he?
[Joy:] Yeah, he's got so much about him
[Ivy:] leave her alone now?
[Joy:] Who?
[Ivy:] That bloke
[Joy:] Oh yes, yes, oh yes yeah rubbish, oh we have
[Ivy:] Last time I spoke to they, two days before I'd left, me, me, me, me, me all the while they would not shut their over there anyway, cos I'm doing the work for and I wrote it all down, couple of days
[Joy:] Oh, yeah we had another trauma erm,
[Ivy:] Have you had enough to eat?
[Joy:] Eh? Yeah I'm fine, you know this erm, you know this young girl that was killed along Benji Avenue with her mother? Well I thought it was Wendy's daughter
[Ivy:] Did they?
[Joy:] Half past eleven at night they went and knocked Wendy's door and says can you give me some photos of your daughter and there were two girls and they thought that they were the only two and the woman said that the only two girls I know that are alike them, their age group, erm, er are Nicholas daughter and erm, and erm her friend
[Ivy:] Oh my god,
[Joy:] and erm
[Ivy:] strange, having a look round
[Joy:] and er, anyway, they had to get photos and they said well we don't think this is her, but we'll come back
[Ivy:] Oh
[Joy:] but, then the next morning of course when Wendy got home she'd been down my nephew's looking after the kids for them and erm, and said we've come to arrest you, and no, oh Rachael said oh mum there's a police car pulled up outside, so she said, oh my god don't tell me they're wrong and it is Tracey, cos Tracey's left home, she's gone to live with her friend and erm, anyway, when Wendy got to the stairs she couldn't go in, she couldn't go any further and she said erm, when, when the policeman said Mrs I've come to arrest you, she just about said Christ she said what have I done? They said well your husband's car's been vandalised and they think it's you that's done it so we've come to arrest you... [LAUGHTER] so she said oh I thought you've come to tell me it were me daughter that was dead and he said, he said what you talking about? She said well the police were here after eleven last night, that young girl that was killed on Benji Avenue they thought it was my daughter, they've got all the photos
[Ivy:] Oh it's terrible
[Joy:] and he just said oh I'm so sorry he said I wouldn't have come if I had known, but there was a massive wreath in the garden where that girl was knocked over
[Ivy:] Yeah, I can see it
[Joy:] Yeah, she said
[Ivy:] It was
[Joy:] Is she, she getting worse?
[Ivy:] Brain damage ain't she?
[Joy:] Cos of they left three children in the house
[Ivy:] Yeah, that's what Alan said they were away weren't they, she'd only gone to walk the dog
[Joy:] That's right, yeah
[Ivy:] Ain't it a shame?
[Joy:] I know its dreadful
[Ivy:] Never know what's gonna happen those bleeding idiots
[Joy:] Two young boys
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] er chasing in a X R X you know
[Ivy:] Scott you know he's a swine now Scott
[Joy:] Is he?
[Ivy:] From a I think his mother don't bloody want him, he's a pain in the arse, but she said, I reckon she said piss off and and he really is immature now
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] said he was running round to see his dad and he's got a car now, he passed his test, he's got a little Renault and he's as stupid as a and he comes out from at two o'clock on Saturdays and whizzes round the town doing wheelies round the town... so I said to him last night Scott sit down I want you to read something, I said take a good look at the paper, I said it could've been you, doing that, you think you're so fucking clever and big running round the town, I said it only takes you to lose control go up the bloody curb and bang, that's what happened, I said think about what the hell you're doing
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] said it's just one big joke it didn't go in
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] and it pisses me off cos
[Joy:] I know
[Ivy:] like me I so wanna drive for the right bloody reason
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] you know and, and these last couple of weeks with me mum I think oh if I could drive you know, but I thought cor there's an idiot like him
[Joy:] On the road
[Ivy:] Yeah, it ain't worth him passing his sodding test
[Joy:] No
[Ivy:] I don't know how he did it.
[Joy:] Well, you don't know that, I mean it's, I, that's what I've said all the way along this, this world's getting to be that the wrong person
[Ivy:] Priorities wrong
[Joy:] Yeah, the wrong people are in the wrong jobs
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] ain't they?
[Ivy:] yeah, that's quite worrying
[Joy:] Where did their daughter went to
[Ivy:] yeah she came home
[Joy:] Did she? Why was that?
[Ivy:] Back at home, back at school and everything now, I don't know, she never ever told me the story, she used to talked to Steffy she used to shut me off, and I thought I'd
[Joy:] no
[Ivy:] but, I, I forget who it were, it were either Lyn...
[Joy:] That was strange cos she's the only daughter isn't she?
[Ivy:] Yeah, I don't know the full story
[Joy:] Mind you no, if Maureen's the same at, at home as she is at work then you can see why she left home
[Ivy:] well that's what we said, what we said
[Joy:] so
[Ivy:] I think she still sees Cathy at times
[Joy:] Who Maureen?
[Ivy:] Yeah, yeah, I mean I've never seen nor heard
[Joy:] Mm, Cathy knew what they called her in the initial stage
[Ivy:] that's right, yeah, that's right
[Joy:] I can't be doing with that
[Ivy:] No I can't I'm glad I'm out and I'm glad that I never see some of them bloody people again
[Joy:] Well
[Ivy:] cos I said to Maureen have you seen anybody? She said I saw Julie cos when I left Julie said to me, Julie said oh if I when I told Alan oh well, we can't very well be whether Julie said she liked boys to go out with her, go, and we provisionally booked, I think it was the last week in February, we got quite a bit on, I said er if I can't make it I'll ring you, but then, oh that was it she rung me up, and she said Lynnie I said no Julie I said I haven't I said I would tell you cos I said I, she said to me do ring me and let me know, and I said I said I would and I will, I said no cos I didn't tell her when it were you see, so I said it's this week coming and I'll ring you this on Monday, so she said oh it was only, cos she said I saw Deb and Deb wondered, I thought yeah I bet she did she would
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] fucking laugh, so I said to her no I said it is this week Julie I said and it's towards the end of the week but I'll ring you by the weekend and let you know, well of course come the Thursday morning I haven't seen Val, and I was ever so upset because it really the end of the line money wise, I couldn't do any more
[Joy:] Oh
[Ivy:] the end of the last straw you see, so I went in the Co-Op and I felt really, really fed up, I said I oh I said I could cry I said because I've tried so hard I said not for lending you money I said, I'm not meant to have any sodding luck so got a couple of bits and I really couldn't get me act together and on the Tuesday dad's gone in hospital with that fit, so I was thinking of him a lot and I thought I don't know dad, you know I'm sure, I'm sure that he weren't gonna come out when he went in there, I thought they were gonna bloody find something with you boy and that would be it, so I come home here and I ain't done no work, so I started off for work, both sitting here bloody bawling cos this house looked like shit, spoke to me sister on the phone and er I felt a bit better so I thought oh I'd start doing the tree, so I pulled it all to bits in here, got the polish and duster out, put all the bread and everything for Alan's sandwiches, it'd be about oh, about half past twelve and the bloody phone went it was mum, she said Lyn do you think you can come up to the hospital with me, cos I've got no transport and so I said what's up then mum? So she said dad's got to go straight down now for emergency surgery, come on then, for emergency surgery and they want you to be there before he goes, oh christ perhaps I'm and erm I said well, so I rung Alan up I said Al can you get out? He said I can't I'm here on my own, he said get a cab and I'll give you the money back, so anyway I rung Pauline's husband up Steve and he said I'll take you, I said to Steve I've gotta get there for one o'clock cos I said I really do feel that if I don't see him before he goes I ain't gonna bloody see him, he was ever so good, he were here at twenty to one, got straight in the car put his foot down, went to the General and just as I got in the door Steve don't worry about me parking, go, I'll find you, just get in there, I ran through the bloody doors, ran up the stairs cos I knew where he'd be, and they were just wheeling him down, him crying
[Joy:] Oh
[Ivy:] must've been frightened, cos he's never had in his life
[Joy:] Ah
[Ivy:] So I held his hand all the way and mum was there and I said you'll be alright dad I said don't worry about it I said er, we'll be here when you come out, he said yeah alright, I'm alright, so as the surgeon came out he said look Mrs he said I've seen your daughter, yeah, I have to say this to you he said it's a fifty, fifty percent chance that John will come back from the operation, operation OK and he said it's a one hundred percent chance he won't without surgery of course he don't know anything, got his little cap on
[Joy:] What and he heard him saying this?
[Ivy:] Yes, said to me dad and all, but I said to me dad I love you, I've always loved you you know and I'll be here when you come out I said you'll be out don't worry, crying when he went in when he went in mum started crying she said Lyn he ain't coming back he ain't coming back I said he might mum, he's just might so anyway that was, at one o'clock he went down, quarter past five, ring, we kept saying can you ring and see if, and they rung said be out the operating theatre to tell us how far they'd got and what was happening, he's had four units of blood
[Joy:] That was
[Ivy:] Yeah yeah it was the one leading to the aorta, an aorta, they call it an aortic
[Joy:] That's the main one to the heart then?
[Ivy:] bigger and anyway he came back and he said bloody packets of blood you know what oh, and it's ten percent of and erm, and I missed the he said and in all my years of surgery I've done a hundred and odd drainages and that is the biggest I've ever done, he said and I'll be totally honest with you he said if I'd have known how big it was I wouldn't have done the operation he said I really didn't know what I've let myself in for, he said he's had problems with leg and knee, he said he's got arterial disease and his arteries are all blocked, he said we've tried to put some down into his arteries and we can't get anything down there so they're blocked, but he said how the hell he survived that op I don't know he said they could've done more with his legs but it meant another hour and a quarter minutes in surgery, and he said he'd had enough we couldn't have kept him on the table a minute longer... so he said all we can do is wait, so now mum said well he's alright in intensive care, he's responding well, getting over the operation well, but what we was worried about was him breathing on his own, had he, had he been you see, anyway he said this on er Thursday this was on the Thursday and he said er we'll leave him on the machine until Monday and then though we'll take him off, of course being on it for a long period to his brain, then they comes the next day, oh no that was it, they, then they, we left it, we left it, we left it, he kept saying we might have to make a decision, erm your dad's leg deteriorated he's got no circulation in his legs at all, we've found a pulse in his left leg but we can't find one in his right, he said I think you're gonna have to make the decision of amputation... oh god, anyway comes Monday came off ventilator and of course he couldn't talk
[Joy:] He knew you where there though?
[Ivy:] Yeah, he knew we were there, he was responding and erm, he said er, he's responding well to the operation and then on the Tuesday he went bright yellow and of course mum noticed it
[Joy:] That's jaundice
[Ivy:] Yeah, so mum went into the ward and she said he's awfully yellow, is that normal? So the nurse said to the sister she said he's got a bit of jaundice, but they were whispering and Pete said well dad, so mum said no bloody jaundice she said, he, he then they got the gotta come off this was on, in the morning, in the afternoon they said his leg would deteriorate, they've got to take the whole leg off... so he said we'll give it another go and see what happens, course by this time he said the operation hasn't the only reason that we could take his we can't take him down and put that right, wouldn't make it, he said he'd or any check so anyway he went right on until the... Saturday and he said look, on the Friday they called us in and they said look we're gonna take him to the ward I'm afraid there's nothing else we can do, just deteriorating and he said there's no which in a way were pleased we haven't got to make the heart rending decision of him having his legs off, cos Denny told us, mum kept saying to him for three days, he would arch his back... ooh, ooh, couldn't move, and mum said yes he when he's down he can't move, I said yes he can, she said he can't, and three times she told them and it weren't until the third day, they apologise, they said I'm awfully sorry we didn't realise just how because the is so close to Dad's spine it's
[Joy:] Oh
[Ivy:] but then on the erm, Saturday, and the, that's, and then on I say then on the bloody Friday night what happened he fell out the bed... I phoned and I said can you tell me how dad's so she said erm, erm, I said I only understand that he fell out of bed last night, so she said yes but he's quite comfortable now, I said is he, is he really? I said well I'm gonna come up in the next hour and I wanna who was on the ward last night and sister that was on today and I wanna know why and how he fell out of bed... when I got up there they said would you like to come in, I said I most certainly would, she said erm, what would you like to say? I said what would I like to say, disgusted with the way he's been treated, I said my father left intensive care at one o'clock on Friday, we was told he was gonna leave there at four o'clock to go home and have a meal and be with him when he went on the ward, when we came back, he'd been moved, he'd gone on the ward, he was plonked in the chair, his catheter was on his lap, it had leaked all over him, his dressing was hanging off and seeping with green stuff... the wound on his leg was run all down over his foot, he'd got no cover on his seat so he could see, Dave said they looked and they didn't look very bloody nice
[Joy:] And your dad could see that?
[Ivy:] Yeah, and I said erm, and I said that weren't, if that wasn't enough I said bearing in mind he'd just come out of intensive care off a life support machine, I said and which I think that, that tells us that he needs a bit of extra care compared to some of them on the ward, I said I know they're all important and I know you're busy but I said I think you should've had a bit of priority, he was dying, and you know he's dying, you'd been told, she said yes that's right, I said but what really broke my bloody heart was from one o'clock that dinner time he sat in that chair, we left that hospital at half past eight and you assured us he'd go to bed and when we came in the next morning at half past ten Joy he sat there exactly the bloody same, in the same filthy blanket and the same catheter on him, oh I went fucking mad and I said how dare you, I said because somebody's told they're dying does that mean they've got to be forgot? I said he's my father... and then he falls out the fucking bed when they put him in it because they admit negligence, they forgot to put the cot side up, dad has got lack of oxygen to his bra brain, he thought it was the Battle of Hastings going on... but they said there was nobody there, well surely they must have known Joy he fell out the bloody bed because he's laying like this and he's falling and he's falling and bang come out, he split all his bloody head open, do you know the blood was there from the night he fell out, he fell out at half past ten at night and they never informed us, which is against the law and the blood still sat there at quarter to four the following day, all over the floor, he's got a bloody stitch in his head which they done to him while he were in the bed, and ripped three tubes out of his arm, split all his bloody arm open
[Joy:] And your mum knows all this?
[Ivy:] Yes, we went fucking mad
[Joy:] Was he insured?
[Ivy:] So you see I couldn't fight with them too much cos I thought they'd take it out on dad, so I said look I don't want him here, I don't need all this but I said another thing that got my goat, you asked my mum to help turn my dad, they asked my mum if she could help turn him because they didn't have enough staff or he couldn't be turned and when my mum turned him she come out and was sick and cried her eyes out cos he had no skin from the top of his spine to the bottom, and he had a water blister like that Joy yellow on his arm, his penis was nearly the width of my arm pouring with blood, and septic from the catheter, oh and the smell, you've never smelled nothing like it from the sores and the wounds, cos he was cut from here right the way down to here... and they had a, all his legs were festering and gangrene in his legs
[Joy:] They'd been better off just giving him an injection and put him to sleep
[Ivy:] Yeah and Mike's seen him like that and mum went round the ward and she made all the beds to help them and all, we had to bribe them to look after him, but was he looked after in the end, on Saturday I said look, I said don't fucking come over here and tell me my dad's gonna be turned in a minute I said because a minute is a minute, I said but when you come over here three and a half hours later to my dad that's like three years, he's in excruciating agony, he wants to turn him when you tell him you're gonna turn him
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] I said I understand your busy, I said if you can't turn him say, then I will turn him in an hour I can't do it before, fine, I said at least I'm not sitting like a prat telling him a load of rubbish
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] and I said then on the, on the Saturday his leg, his wound, he come out of intensive care on the Wednesday and on the Saturday his, his dressing hadn't been changed on his leg and it reeked and I said can we actually please have a clean dressing for my dad's leg, even if I've got to put the bugger on myself, that was at quarter past eight yes that was at quarter past eight Saturday morning and at ten to eight my aunty came at night and went fucking mad she said I want a dressing and I want it now, twelve hours ago I asked for that dressing and weren't done... then came came up to say it was a matter of time he probably wouldn't last the weekend he was dying and he was on morphine tablets
[Joy:] What she say, thanks to you lot so wondered he survived this lot.
[Ivy:] I went mad, he said well accidents happen, I said not with my fucking dad they don't... not to my dad I said I'll tell you what Mr if I'd have known then what I know now I wouldn't even let you operate, I wouldn't Joy I would have said leave him alone, I wished he'd have died when the exploded
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] because it, all of that was terrible
[Joy:] Was it, your dad was it? That what I say there's a lot to be said for going gracefully
[Ivy:] Yeah, and then that was come Saturday they'd rearranged the whole ward and they put him on a W R V S air bed, he were in heaven on this bed, I said why the fuck couldn't you have done that earlier?... He fainted when they moved him, it was such an upheaval thought we'd lost him then, and then on a beautiful air bed and he looked it was too late came Saturday night he was on morphine tablets, I stayed with him all day Sunday, and I could see he was dying then, I stayed with him all night, all day, and then, gone Saturday night four children, me mum all round the bed waiting for the bugger to cos that's what they said, dad's so high on drugs and lack of oxygen, he's, he was comical, he was a bugger
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] you know we had a real laugh with him
[Joy:] mm
[Ivy:] It didn't seem right, yet, looking at his face you'd, she'd thought he could have come home, but when you lifted the bloody sheets and then she'd never seen anything like it, and then on the Monday morning, I stayed with him Sunday night and he were on morphine fusions and then on the Monday morning I woke up and mum had gone, when I looked at dad I thought to myself then I thought oh boy you ain't gonna go now... mum nipped home for a bath they said she could and it'll be alright and they said and er, that was at eight o'clock and er, then they all came back at about quarter past eight and er they sat us down and said daddy died at twenty to nine
[Joy:] In the morning?
[Ivy:] Mm... but oh, they've you can't do with it can you Joy?
[Joy:] No
[Ivy:] I mean it ain't on is it? I know they're short staffed
[Joy:] When you need people
[Ivy:] but by Christ
[Joy:] when you need people, well it, there's, there's been a programme on this morning there saying it's not that there, this is vote for your, for your parliament you know, what you call it? Your vote to phone in and they said erm... something about what was I gonna say... no what was I gonna say? Oh no they were saying that the Health Service's and the Health Service is deteriorating so bad, and they said no not so much that it's that they're not, they've got enough staff but they're not being managed correctly
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] they're, they're hovering around
[Ivy:] That's right it's like there's no big
[Joy:] don't know what to do
[Ivy:] it's like, I mean, I mean when I used to work in a hospital you weren't allowed to have hair down and hole in the tights, they're a load of toffee cows
[Joy:] No, I know,
[Ivy:] not one of them doctors or an anaesthetist that come to dad had anything on, suit, trousers, jumper, floppy t-shirt, sweat shirt, no overall, no gloves nothing
[Joy:] no, no
[Ivy:] I mean even us we we're going in and out intensive care having a fag, having a cup of coffee, walking in, we're full of germs... I mean at one time you used to have to have gloves you know, didn't you? You know, dad got a chest infection
[Joy:] Yeah, sterilized gloves
[Ivy:] see, the chest infection
[Joy:] Well you weren't surprised are you? You see, I, I mean my brother
[Ivy:] But I mean the intensive care girls Joy I can't say enough about them, they were wonderful
[Joy:] Yeah, it's no good saying it's no good fifty percent of the ship being good
[Ivy:] that's what I said they thrown him out into a mad house
[Joy:] you can't sink half a ship can you?
[Ivy:] I mean they only threw him out because they just didn't, have the, the, the staff, I mean I sat in there day after day and I felt bloody sorry, they were ringing, ninety percent of their day taken by ringing, begging for staff
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] please, please could someone help just for an hour, we need help, we're too sh
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] they were four, I mean there's only four beds but one day they had four in there but there was a need for urgency
[Joy:] it makes you feel, it makes you feel when you're unemploy, ployed like they are
[Ivy:] Yes, that's what I said
[Joy:] what are we waiting, but you see
[Ivy:] where are all these qualifications
[Joy:] yeah but you see, you, you, you can't
[Ivy:] you know
[Joy:] do anything
[Ivy:] no
[Joy:] cos if you go to do anything voluntary they look, look into it and then you've got trouble with your dole money
[Ivy:] I know, that's it, yeah
[Joy:] then you can't afford to not have your dole money, cos your dole money
[Ivy:] The more I was up there, the more I thought cor I could take my coat off put on an overall, live up here forever
[Joy:] That's right I know
[Ivy:] you know helping people, there was so many things you and I could do
[Joy:] I know
[Ivy:] and it was stupid things like
[Joy:] Well that, that's why I think I went down so hard when I didn't get that job cos she said, I, I took, I took the erm, I went, I was the first, to go, first of all I didn't put in for this job it's one that's been laying around since last September, I wrote to, kept to St. Mary's for this mental health thing and I got in touch with this Mrs and she said I've got nothing I can offer you at the moment but I, I will be in touch and I went down the job centre one day and erm, there was this thing to say that they wanted mental nurses
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] at the hospital, so I thought well I'll, I'll ring
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] anyway the girl said well I'll ring first to see where you get your application form she, and the, Sue phoned and was on the other end and I said oh you should apparently you've got have erm, er, application form and Mrs going to send you one, I said is that Mrs on the line she said is that Mrs speaking, she said yeah, I said will you tell it's Mrs she said oh, well, tell Mrs she's no need to apply I've got all her details and she is being looked at, you know, we are looking into it... anyway erm, as I say I had this letter just after Christmas to say that there was a job coming up at the Mencap at Wellingborough Road, Rushden, and I was being selected and erm would I go up for the informal interview on the Monday and the formal interview at the hospital the next morning, so I went up got the first person there and er she, she, it's a new, it's an old house but they've done it all up and there all papers on the floor and then she said oh I think I'll pick these up Ir Irene, I said oh call me Joy everybody does and she said alright, OK, I said oh I'll help you so of course I said, I went straight down with her on the floor picking all these papers up and she, and when the next person come she said poor old Joy ain't even got in the door and that's it, she's already working and she said I can see you're like me Joy you'll do a job when you see it's gotta be done, I said I've always been the same, I can't, I can't see a spoon or a bit of paper laying on the floor
[Ivy:] No
[Joy:] I have to pick it up, she said oh that's good, as I say I had a brilliant interview when the other members of staff come Steve and erm, I forget what the girl's name was, but she's already had a from her, training that er Princess Marina, and said oh this is Joy and this is Jenny and er, she's done well and when I came away Jenny went just in front of me into Sue who works for me Sue she's, she's the, the area, the area manager
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] and she said has come in? I really feel she said, I hope that we can sort something out, but the next morning of course I was first on the list I had my formal interview, mine was half past nine, but when I got in there Sue, and Steve which was gonna be the head manager and this girl from erm Princess Marina who was gonna be the nurse
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] who would administer all the drugs etc, erm, they come in and they said right just take a sit Joy and you know make yourself comfortable, I said oh fine and I sat, sat in the chair said well I'll sit with these for me dining room and I'll have four for me bedroom and do you want me to sit here then? She said yes, cos they sat like one, two, three and I said hang on where's the plug, what time do you plug it in, you know,
[Ivy:] Yes
[Joy:] a mate of mine said dead right, she said now, were not used to doing this she said so if you feel you haven't had a fair crack at the whip
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] on your interview she said I want you tell us because at the end of the, your interview she said, it'll help us to do the others, so they told us, giving me different situations, she's took a patient out to a cafe and the patient pinched a cake and eaten it, what would you do? So I said well I've never been in the situation but I said if it, if it was, if I was in that situation I, asked to see the manager or person in charge, make an offer to pay for any damage that was done and if that didn't suffice then I would say well I am the care officer for a Mencap home and the only thing I can do is say will you er get in touch with my boss and it'll have to be sorted out from Head Office and she said perfect, you couldn't do anything better, then she give me all different things that we've gone into the next day and the patient's done everything down the bed, what would you do?
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] So I told them what I would do, but once again I've never been in the situation but this is what I'll do, said as if they were me own parents make them as comfortable as I could while I'll cleaned up and give them a bed bath or if they could shower, shower them and erm and get everything back to normal as quick as possible, fine, that were all fine she, and then as, as I got up from it they all said thanks a lot Joy it has been great you really have been great you've made it easy, we've got an easy day in front thanks to you, you know you're bubbly and all this and... then when she phoned me on the Sunday she said hello Joy it's Sue here and I, I said will you let me know one way or the another cos I said I hate being left up in the air
[Ivy:] Yeah, that's right
[Joy:] she said oh yes you will, then she said to me I'm sorry to tell you you didn't make, she said you made exc, but she said I don't want you to feel erm disgruntled she said because er, you done a fabulous interview, the only thing that let you down was of lack of experience, so I said well you're never gonna get any cos you, nobody let's you in, they don't open the door
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] I said I've been waiting six months now, I've given my life six months to wait for a job, I said, you can't get experience if you're not given chances
[Ivy:] No
[Joy:] so I said but I'm not disappointed but she said just listen to what I've got to say, she said, erm, because anybody else that's failed we've just said I'm sorry we can't have you, but she said with you, we all feel that you've got so much to offer she said I'm gonna offer you a relief post which means that you can go into other people's ho er other homes, all around, all different hospitals if somebody's short, they can call on you and I said could it be a full time job, will it give me enough money to say that I'm working? She said I can't promise you, so I thought well I'm sat six months now, so I phoned this ship thing yesterday on the telly called Just Start, no Start Again whatever it's called and they gave me, they phoned me yesterday and they gave me a number of Cine Hill, Northampton which is the job advisory centre, adults education and then they phoned me yesterday and they told me who to get in touch with so I've got an appointment Thursday at erm Northampton with the Social Services Department and they apparently map out all the places where you could go, say, say for instance that St Crispin's is the mental home I can go there and be with the patients and then I can go to the Marina's and be taught how to lift and how to bed bath and how to manipulate
[Ivy:] Soon knowing, it's only a fashion like
[Joy:] sick people
[Ivy:] the Y T S training scheme yeah
[Joy:] That's right, and she, she retired Friday so she said I must get you in before Friday cos I'm going round Thursday morning
[Ivy:] Oh isn't there courses at Tech in the evenings or, or nothing?
[Joy:] Well that's what she's gonna tell me... so
[Ivy:] I don't know how you'll suppose to learn to get an interview
[Joy:] well I thought well if it checks me another six months at least when they say have you got any experience, but as I say I'm still in touch with Mencap and I'm still in touch with mine and I've also er put in for, what they call them mobility insistence for the Princess Marina which again an education and you just go in and be, be a friend to somebody and you take them out for an hour, er a couple of hours, you, and you're paid five pounds eighty for a two hour session
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] whether it's the afternoon or an evening or weekend it's still the same price, but the, the mental patient actually employs you, you're not employed by the hospital, but they can only give you ten hours a week which is five session so that's only sort of twenty seven quid a week so you're yeah I didn't really want to go with I, I, you see, I don't really wanna do Mencap, I didn't
[Ivy:] no
[Joy:] I, I didn't want mentally handicap I wanted mentally sick like schizophrenic
[Ivy:] very interesting
[Joy:] alcoholic they abilitating teaching them to, to live again and, and getting into the community, helping them to shop and you know helping them to be self sufficient.
[Ivy:] When I was at... Tesco's near where we work, we worked, when we were at Hodins, you know that Tesco's there?
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] That day when I went up to my
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] the first time I noticed there were no end of women like yourself with no end of
[Joy:] That's right
[Ivy:] you know in wheelchairs, or just walk
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] and they were obviously quite poorly people in the way of their, their mental state
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] and er I thought of you then, and I thought where could they all come from, really are where do you come from because
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] six or seven times when I walked down Tesco on a lunch time on my own, they're always at the end one, so I suppose they could get in and out, but they're lovely kids some of them
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] I mean, they're not kids all of them
[Joy:] They go to a bowling alley as well they do
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and they went
[Ivy:] and I notice when we went, we went to see Chas and Dave er at the Derndan it was packed with them
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] and as soon as you've parked, they've obviously come from a home somewhere or from the hospital or whatever
[Joy:] Oh they come from, they go you see, I mean what they do is soon as they've kicked them out in the mental homes they're having to put them in to erm, I mean erm, there are people who are not able to be on their own, I mean the ones they've kicked out are people that have been depressed and say well you've got to find, get your family to help, I mean, when you've got somebody depressed in your family you try and help them
[Ivy:] That's right, yeah
[Joy:] with their help and medication, I mean you don't sling them out on the street
[Ivy:] No
[Joy:] I mean I don't, I don't know whether say they flung them out on the street is the right thing, cos I, I, I mean there's all these places like Mencap and there's a big one in Wellingborough
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and MindBlank which is mentally erm
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] insane but there is a lot I mean, but how do you get in?
[Ivy:] That's right, yeah, I mean, it's alright them saying you want experience but how do you get it if you know you can't learn
[Joy:] That's right, so I'm hoping Thursday it's an advisory erm session and they tell you what you should do, what you, how to get there, you know
[Ivy:] Yeah, because I mean, like when I had the home erm, that again obviously you can't, people said that, I mean, it's changed a lot but when I had the home you didn't just pull an, out anybody from the street and call them care assistants you had to offer them a day's training every week
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] at the Tech or courses, induction courses, Social Services meetings and stuff like that, but I mean there ain't none of this now they're just, you just, I, I can just apply for the job of care officer, care assistant and, and go in, but it's a pity that they don't do the same sort of thing like people can come in, have a look round see what goes on, be offered a, a day release
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] so like perhaps, say six weeks you're doing it on the voluntary basis
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] where you're just watching, helping, washing a few cups with somebody and, and then going on a course one or two days a week, and then you're consider whether being took on and even if you're not took on at that place at least you've got something to say you've done when you're
[Joy:] Apart from that
[Ivy:] applying for another placement
[Joy:] yeah apart from that you've got to know whether it's what you want to do
[Ivy:] That's right, oh yeah, because I mean
[Joy:] I mean, I mean I know I don't really want to work with old age pensioners, but I start in a
[Ivy:] No, it's depressing
[Joy:] no I don't think I wanna just sit and wash somebody sitting in a chair
[Ivy:] Very, I would say it's not depressing that's the wrong word, there's no... there's a sense of, of reward and achievement, but, there ain't no thanks in it, no gratitude about it
[Joy:] No
[Ivy:] do you know what I mean? I mean I've just, but all the years that I was at the home every day I would say hello Flo, hello Elsie how are you? Ooh, ooh this hurts and that hurts, never have, well how are you me duck
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] do you know what I mean? You'd expect about ta, thanks you used to think cor christ and then I, I mean all the bits I did for them and I remember one woman getting up saying come on Flo come and stretch and she said who are you? And I'd been there four year, really, wipe shit from her arse every morning
[Joy:] Yeah, yeah
[Ivy:] didn't know who I am
[Joy:] that's right
[Ivy:] and that can be a bit soul destroying
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] You, you really want something that, with the younger people you can build up a proper relationship
[Joy:] You can get rapport with them, yeah yeah
[Ivy:] and an understanding and a bond
[Joy:] That's right
[Ivy:] whereas with old people you can't, cos they're so cantankerous anyway
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] but,
[Joy:] well I say I'm just, I'm just trying
[Ivy:] keep trying, don't give up
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] Yeah, cos at least you know
[Joy:] I mean he
[Ivy:] what you wanna do, which is something you didn't when you were at
[Joy:] no, no
[Ivy:] did you? You didn't really know what path to take or what you wanted to be
[Joy:] Well I'm virtually unemployable, let's face it I mean
[Ivy:] Well it's like Callum, come out of his job, he knows nothing, he's a great butcher, never get another butcher like him, but that's all he knows
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] If he don't, if he comes out and decides to do something else he's well and truly
[Joy:] Well that's right
[Ivy:] gazumped, because nobody will take him, cos he knows absolutely nothing, about nothing else apart from butchery, it's the same with me I can't work a computer so I'm cramped in the way of clerical, it's no good applying for half of them because you've got to have keyboard skills and erm computer skills
[Joy:] But you see that's what you should do now you should get in and do it while you're unemployed.
[Ivy:] But you see, you get a lot of these courses and, I went in for reflexology, I went on a lovely
[Joy:] Come here.
[Ivy:] a lovely course for re reflexology and one day, I went to Shambrook College and he said to me you've got, you've got a great feeling with your hands he said, you, you, you'd make a good reflexology, but the courses were in Luton
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] and when you're unemployed you can't afford to go thirty miles
[Joy:] You can't afford it, course you can't
[Ivy:] twice a week, I, for nothing
[Joy:] that's what I said to mum, you know, that's why I so wanted to pass me, me test, cos I said to mum erm, see I kept it, I only had six hundred quid redundancy, six hundred and twenty eight pounds, that's all I had, apart, I had me wages what was owed and me holiday pay, but my, me actual redundancy cheque was only six hundred and twenty eight quid
[Ivy:] Yeah, I only got six hundred
[Joy:] so I've put that away, I, it ain't even in my account, Alan's got that and I said to Alan if I pass this test I shall buy a banger, five hundred quid with this tax money and then put the odd to insurance, if I don't I'll leave it where it is, because I, I mean little one will want a holiday and that anyway so I've kept it for that, but that's what I intend to do, so I said to Alan if I get a little banger just enough to get me to Tettering and back I was gonna go tech, to do some courses
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] see I can't afford the train for every bloody day
[Ivy:] Yeah I know
[Joy:] it's one pound ten one way then you oh...
[Ivy:] but you see there, that I was saying to Penny
[Joy:] Do you want a cup of tea Joy?... make sure I see her this week, so she said oh she said Penny is a good girl she said er... there was Penny and Margaret working at G P P and she said they were both doing test but she said come the end of day they only wanted one she said and for that, so she said Penny stood back and let Margaret stay... to keep her job
[Ivy:] But
[Joy:] that's alright innit, you're just trying to get comfy.
[Ivy:] They're old as the hills them cushions, in fact they're Do you want tea or coffee Joy?
[Joy:] I don't mind whichever one you're making
[Ivy:] Mug or a cup?
[Joy:] Mug please.
[Ivy:] What sugar?
[Joy:] One and a bit.
[Ivy:] OK
[Joy:] Yeah go on then, that'll do... yeah... now this is the famous budgie is it?
[Ivy:] Pardon?
[Joy:] That's your famous budgie?
[Ivy:] That's George, famous George
[Joy:] Georgey, Georgey
[Ivy:] He's been
[Joy:] Is he?
[Ivy:] Yeah... getting old
[Joy:] Is he pulling his feathers then?
[Ivy:] Hello, what you doing down there? I haven't got no cream biscuits for you have I? Ah
[Joy:] He'll have a sweet one then if you've got a sweet one
[Ivy:] I haven't Joy.
[Joy:] Ain't you? Oh yeah
[Ivy:] Yeah
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[Joy:] Is there a butchers in Findham?
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] oh good... Colin ain't there now though is he?
[Ivy:] Yeah... yeah he's gone in in
[Joy:] Oh I thought he was still at Wellingborough
[Ivy:] he's here now.
[Joy:] Oh
[Ivy:] and goes really well
[Joy:] oh, very nice [LAUGHTER] oh Dennis he's ever so
[Ivy:] I'll tell you one thing I, I take the top off
[Joy:] He's ever so finicky Lyn
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[Ivy:] alright, have your water Is that strong enough for you or is it too weak?
[Joy:] No it's lovely
[Ivy:] He's got turkey salad and he didn't even eat it... so I took the, the top off it so he could see the turkey in it, then he changed his mind now, I thought he might.
[Joy:] What's he got? Are you warm enough?
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Sure?
[Ivy:] Yeah, a turkey sandwich, oh he's cheeky
[Joy:] Not on the settee
[Ivy:] No it's alright
[Joy:] You spoil him, what you got?
[Ivy:] The trouble is he does it everybody's house
[Joy:] What you got?... Aren't you sure about that?
[Ivy:] He's ever so finicky to feed... but don't worry about your driving you haven't lost it
[Joy:] No, it takes a bit of time doesn't it?
[Ivy:] Well when you could do with it most
[Joy:] Yeah, with all, with all the running around at the hospital and all that, and now, and now
[Ivy:] Alright now?
[Joy:] and as you say if you go to college, but as I've said to Penny you know you want to try and find out if there are any courses that are going, if you want to get back
[Ivy:] Yeah, that's what I thought
[Joy:] into office work... you feel you like, want to go back into it?
[Ivy:] I'm sure I know
[Joy:] Oh, I tell you what
[Ivy:] it got on my wick the bitchiness of it all, didn't you, I couldn't, I couldn't do with it Joy I don't think
[Joy:] everybody
[Ivy:] I want to do that again
[Joy:] everybody said that what a
[Ivy:] I couldn't do with it now
[Joy:] Do you know the reason, the reason Maud phoned to told me it was the most hateful place
[Ivy:] Oh
[Joy:] Tim the, the life insurance, you know the man who still do the pensions on?
[Ivy:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] He said Joy it was a wicked
[Ivy:] It needn't have been need it?
[Joy:] Well it, you know what I call it, seeping sewage, I said Tell me off
[Ivy:] They usually say that the things called rising damp I said this that was seeping sewage from the top
[Joy:] I think Geraldine remembers a lot of it I really do
[Ivy:] They all do, wanna hear what Barbara's got to say
[Joy:] here ain't she?
[Ivy:] Fine, yeah, she come over my house last Wednesday night, we go to the Beaker's bingo... just won't let you
[Joy:] I know, he might have been a bit better, she, he had a fight, he had some Whiskers for his dinner last night, I tell him he ain't Geoff cooked him a pheasant
[Ivy:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] I've got a great big rabbit in the freezer.
[Joy:] He's ever so spoilt that's the trouble...
[Ivy:] He don't want the crust, he don't want the crust
[Joy:] No he don't like nothing hard, he loves chee, he likes cheese and things like that yeah he'll, he'll eat it, he's following you No I'm alright
[Ivy:] You sure?
[Joy:] Yeah Lyn
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Reggie... don't you think I'm fat enough?
[Ivy:] Chinese porcelain, I wouldn't dare, right, so I had the insurance man come up, come about my pension, he sat where you are and I sat there, he was a well to do man he's ever so posh, and we're chatting away telling me all about pension, telling me all about the pension and that you see so I said to him would you like a tea? Oh I should love one, ooh, so I thought, best not give him a bleeding mug I'd best get my best china out, you know?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] Well we're just standing drinking this, sitting drinking this cup of tea then I'm calling he said ah, ooh he said yes he said I've heard a lot about it he said, there's a lot of unhappy people, I said bloody place I'm bloody glad I'm out of there, I wouldn't go back in a million years, of course he's sitting there with this chinese cup in his hand, drinking this tea and I've sat here bold as brass picked up me cup and walked out well it went all in me lap
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] Ooh, and I ooh, and I thought, of course look back on curse on you, you know... oh dear
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] I did it all on me own, of course Alan sat here like a bloody idiot, I said you sit there don't get, he said I thought you were getting a cloth, I burnt all me arm trying to, jumping out, hacking me hair out there... so I had to say to this bloke I said well there's erm justice for you, he said what? Because that cup you're drinking out of comes from
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] shut up, because Alan said he said oh it could have been worse girl, it could have been his bleeding handle that'll come off and do you know I've got two left out of six, every handle's come off, cracked
[Joy:] Mm... you've done a good job there if you don't lose it again
[Ivy:] What? It's lovely turkey that, it's lovely and fresh
[Joy:] What is it a fresh turkey?
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] I, I don't like frozen, I don't cook frozen
[Ivy:] lovely
[Joy:] Reggie loves it as I say my nephew bought me two
[Ivy:] Get bored with sandwiches
[Joy:] So I cook one the other day, and I cook one this morning, I've pressure cooked one for him, but he wouldn't look at it... Reg is definitely Do you know what he likes? He like lamb, but he likes all the rubbish, he likes, you know the best end of the, what you stew?
[Ivy:] Oh yeah, yeah,
[Joy:] He likes all the rubbish, all the fat and all the gristle and the bones, but he won't eat that lovely bit of meat in the middle
[Ivy:] Really?
[Joy:] and, and neck of lamb he'll eat all the rubbish, but he won't eat the meat
[Ivy:] You get it in the stew you can't find it... he's only been on your fur for christ sake
[Joy:] Oh he's forever, oh gordon bennett
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] it's like Is that a new engagement ring?
[Ivy:] Didn't you see it? I had that for Christmas
[Joy:] No
[Ivy:] It ain't suppose to be an engagement ring, it's never called an engagement ring is it?
[Joy:] Bought it
[Ivy:] It's only out of Argos
[Joy:] Yeah... yeah
[Ivy:] Ha, got one
[Joy:] Why ain't it worth?
[Ivy:] It's quite good, about sixty nine I think,
[Joy:] Oh ain't that lovely
[Ivy:] It is a nice ring ain't it Joy?
[Joy:] Oh yeah
[Ivy:] Me sister's got one the same and I said cor I like your ring I'll never afford that and she said it's only Argos sixty nine bleeding quid, I thought it's fine.
[Joy:] That's lovely
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] it's nice...
[Ivy:] Been a bit battered, I used to take it off, it wants us, it wants cleaning
[Joy:] You know what you want to do, put it
[Ivy:] Soak it
[Joy:] put it in a saucepan with some Fairy Liquid and bring it to the boil and let it boil for about six minutes
[Ivy:] Really?
[Joy:] Yeah, it'll clear all that
[Ivy:] Ooh it sparkled when I first got it ooh I wouldn't put it on for washing up but I forget now
[Joy:] The only thing you can't do is soft those, we can do diamonds, erm, the only thing you can't do is pearls
[Ivy:] Oh really?
[Joy:] yeah, but any hard stone and you'll never melt the gold cos you'll never get it hot enough, I always just chuck mine all in and erm...
[Ivy:] Cake's quite nice
[Joy:] It's lovely, it really is
[Ivy:] Have some more, ooh
[Joy:] I'm trying to lose weight
[Ivy:] You look anorexic to me
[Joy:] Do I?
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I've put on over a stone
[Ivy:] No you look, you look better now...
[Joy:] for the first time in my life I weigh nearly nine stone a month ago, until me dad had died and then I, I lost three quarters of a stone
[Ivy:] Wendy's gone down from twelve and a half stone to about eight
[Joy:] Yeah, so how she doing not good?
[Ivy:] She's had a lot of ups and downs, Christmas, New Year's Eve night Rudy and I went to a party, Pam's daughter's party, it's her eighteenth and at quarter to twelve when they started getting ready to ring the chimes in, at midnight Wendy said I can't stay Joy I'm gonna have to go I said oh alright then, I said I see you alright, are you alright? She said yeah I'll be alright, but I could see she'd been crying earlier on in the evening, she said you always feel as if you're
[Joy:] That's horrible isn't it?
[Ivy:] erm on your own don't you? Well anyway Wen, Wen was in bed with flu, he was with mum so when we went up to pick him up about ooh twenty past twelve I said to and Rudy, I said to Rudy I'm, I'm worried about Wendy, he said are you?
[Joy:] This is New Year's Eve?
[Ivy:] Yeah, I said yeah I am, I said I'm gonna drive up and see, so we got in, went up to Wendy's, you couldn't see through the door Pen, Penny and Kev said well we'll drive round as well, I said well she's had us up and down, cos one minute she was quite strong then the next she couldn't cope, I said Wendy all I want you to ever know is that I'm there, if ever you want me phone me, I don't care whether it's middle of the night, middle of the morning or whatever, so she says alright, anyway Penny went up, she said she couldn't see anything she thinks she's gone a bed and then me and Rudy went up, it must have been quarter to one cos I took him for a little walk and I got out the car and walked round the back and then, I could see her curtains were open and I could see a light on, so I went round the front and I shouted through the letter box, Wen it's only me I've come to wish you a happy new year, let's hope next year will be better than this one and she come to the door and she was broken hearted
[Joy:] Ah
[Ivy:] so I said to her come on I said come on you'll gotta start trying to be strong, I know it's a nasty night being celebration night when everybody else looks as if they're enjoying
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] Anyway when I went in the phone was on the hook, and I said who was on the phone? She said the Samaritans she said Joy I were gonna commit suicide, and she said I thought well I'll just talk to the Samaritans and she said that's where I were, I said you won't commit suicide will you? She said I can't cope no more, she said I just cannot cope any longer and I said you mustn't feel like that I said you'll break all our hearts, I said it's, life will never be the same again, I said come on home with me, forget about this day, I said tomorrow we'll come and pick your birds up cos she's got two beautiful parrots, she's got a Mulican white with peach
[Joy:] Oh
[Ivy:] and then she's got one of them blue erm ones, what'll you call them? Macaws
[Joy:] Really?
[Ivy:] and they're worth about three grand... so anyway erm, I said I'll pick your birds up tomorrow and, cos I when you come and stay with me, she, anyway she, she wouldn't, well in the end I just said that's it I've had enough I switched the car off and grabbed hold of her I said, frogmarched her in the car I said come on, I'm going to bed, Rudy's ready for bed I said I want you with me, so that I can keep me eye on you if I have to sit up all bloody night, of course when she was with me I picked her up and got her strong again and I say you have to be worth it, you're better off without him then she come round and then she'd say I know I am I just go down but well anyway she say, the next morning I said to her do you wanna go home and get some clothes and come back here? She said no I think I'll go home I'll be alright, so I took her back home about eleven and erm... erm I kept phoning her every hour on the hour just to make sure she's alright, then I said I want you just to promise me one thing you're not do anything silly, I'm here, I don't care what it takes, I'm here, so she said alright then, so I said it'll break mum's heart it'll break dad's heart,
[Joy:] No,
[Ivy:] only to leave behind you see innit?
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] I said you've got your kids, you've got a grandchild, of course her grandchild was born that night in the middle of the night, no, in the, four o'clock in the morning New Year's Day that's what I said, so that come like a prayer from heaven it did
[Joy:] Yeah but I mean you, there are times when you feel weak and that... I mean
[Ivy:] But you see Penny can't Penny can't accept that she'll say
[Joy:] no they never been in it,
[Ivy:] in there
[Joy:] That's right
[Ivy:] and I say
[Joy:] until you've been there
[Ivy:] I have, and I you know, there's been many a day I've thought cor I'm really glad I'm in, I'm really glad that I didn't give, giving up day and there's been days when I thought christ how the hell did you get through that day
[Joy:] Mm
[Ivy:] it seems like now to tell you at last I've come to terms with it now, I've really
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] feel like I've accepted it, I've come to terms with it, there's nothing I can do about it
[Joy:] fair to your control and once you get to
[Ivy:] that's right
[Joy:] your control you've, its nothing you can do
[Ivy:] but it took five years
[Joy:] I know
[Ivy:] I mean that, I was telling my mate Cheryl... they come to the funeral, he ain't fucking shown
[Joy:] Who's that?
[Ivy:] Tony, he's got a great big large Porsche
[Joy:] Who's Tony?
[Ivy:] My ex-husband... he
[Joy:] Who's funeral your dad's?
[Ivy:] My dad's
[Joy:] He never
[Ivy:] yeah and her and Diane
[Joy:] Whatever for
[Ivy:] He come up the hospital, I was up in intensive care unit and me dad came round about half past ten at night and in he walked, he came straight down from Filey to see him, cos he used to think a lot of dad you see and dad did him years ago, he used to say he was more of a son than me own... but then he brought her to the funeral, they wouldn't speak to me, wouldn't entertain me at all, I nearly fainted when I saw little one, she's tall and thin...
[Joy:] Are they spoilt?
[Ivy:] Oh, everyone knows them kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, Diane on her lap, on her lap cuddling, mm my lovely then mum said aren't you gonna say hello to mummy and give her a kiss, so she went ugh, and every time we asked her anything she kept going... what have you lost?...
[Joy:] Lost something... put it down this morning...
[Ivy:] bury something for later, just in case you don't get nothing for supper [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I'll have to go backwards.
[Ivy:] Excuse me, young man... well you ain't sharp like your mother are you Reggie?
[Joy:] I'm sure, I'm sure that settee
[Ivy:] You should have left it there Dominic would eat it, he'll find it, he'll say who's been down here and had a sandwich... you haven't had one
[Joy:] don't want it, he's playing.
[Ivy:] I know he's naughty, come and watch it, who's that? Who's this?...
[Joy:] Look what he does at my
[Ivy:] It's turned dull innit? It was lovely this morning...
[Joy:] Yeah,
[Ivy:] I weren't gonna put myself out for them... then he got up and stormed out and then he went back to his sister's took his out and never said ta ta to anyone, I mean I ran over and I said to mum he's got a funny on, what do you think? So I said I know what he's like, comes back and he turns up he says we're just off now, I said oh you've come back then I thought you were a bit rude just storming out of the funeral and not saying cheerio to everyone, he said I've been insulted long enough by your family, I wouldn't be, I wasn't prepared to be insulted any more
[Joy:] Ooh
[Ivy:] Bloody shark, he ought to grow up
[Joy:] pathetic
[Ivy:] so we all had a laugh about it when we went off, I said come on who's the culprit who upset god above from Yorkshire? Sammy said must have been me he said all I said to him here are Ton here's a mug of tea, mug for a mug
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] I said that'll be it, that's all he'll take
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] bloody stupid innit?
[Joy:] It's a good job that, he didn't take that mug that I've got, I'm a mug for a reason
[Ivy:] Yeah, well weren't it daft, I thought that was clever Yeah...
[Joy:] I have more pleasure out of my little dog than I have anything.
[Ivy:] I think you do, yeah
[Joy:] I love him
[Ivy:] Have you seen that advert on the telly I love it with George the boxer?
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] Oh ain't he handsome, when she cook's the curry
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] it's our Graham's, I think it's brilliant
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] could eat him, I went down me mate's Saturday, cos I come home and I... sort of was coming towards the end of the week and just did a farewell dinner for dad on the Sunday and we all went to mum's show them the garden, by Saturday night I felt shattered for it and I'd come home and I looked in the cupboard and I said Ton well what do you want for your dinner then? He said nothing, he said you ain't gotta cook Jeanie and Rob have invited us down, he's and she's doing you a spaghetti bolognaise, so I said oh that'll be nice, when we got there, shall we go in the bank for an hour, I didn't feel like going out, he said come on it'll do you good, we went in the bank and I won a house on the bingo, you could of cracked me Julie said if we win we'll go halfs I said right you are so we said right that was fine, there was four of the bleeding winners one [LAUGHTER] pound fifty I ended up with []
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] It ain't enough for a bloody round, I said that was about right
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] but it was a bit of fun you know
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] while we were out and er...
[Joy:] Oh I love me bingo
[Ivy:] and we, we were ever so disappointed with the service at the, at the Crown ever so disappointed
[Joy:] At the Crown, why?
[Ivy:] Mm, cos mum had Reverend come round, you see cos dad weren't, none of us were religious least of all dad, he couldn't do none of it, so we said to, we didn't, we didn't know what vicar to choose cos none of us go to church so me mum said dad used to go to the church where me sister got married to the little Derby and Jones twice a week and Reverend is always there so mum said we'll have him, dad got on well with him, he liked him, he knew dad, anyway he come round to see mum and I weren't there cos I had to go and sign on, I bloody wished I had been, anyway she said, she told him all about dad and she said I want you tell everybody how brave he was in the war and what a good father he were and a good provider and how he lived for his grandchildren and so on and so on, she said I don't want no hymns I just want his own organ music all through the service and nothing else and just some, do a couple of prayers, she, so he said right the Lords Prayer will be fine that'll be nice, well he never said nothing, he said I didn't know John... but he said I've been told he was a good man, he worked in a hospital, which he did, but I mean you're only like an engineer we weren't really emphasising on that and that was all he said, he played a bit of the organ music before we went in, a bit as we come out and there was about eight bloody prayers and the songs and everything read out and made us sing a hymn... ever so disappointed, hardly said anything, hardly play, played his music, no, I was well disappointed about that
[Joy:] Oh no... folks don't do what you ask nowadays, do they?
[Ivy:] No they do not
[Joy:] Oh I don't know I get disillusioned
[Ivy:] Did you get a bed? What were you after a single bed or a double bed?
[Joy:] Got it
[Ivy:] Did you?
[Joy:] I got a brand, almost brand new one
[Ivy:] What double?
[Joy:] Divan with four drawers, headboard, like this headboard
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] only it's a bit more rosier than this is like in it, the other one's, my one's rosy and erm, and a nice mattress, hardly used mattress, twenty five quid the lot, I'm well pleased with it, I've just had a lovely weekend, I've had Val and her husband over from Jersey
[Ivy:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] who's been to Southampton erm to have this new, er what do you call it? Erm... erm scanner, magnetic scanner
[Ivy:] Oh yeah, yeah
[Joy:] that one there that's advertised on telly, that looks all round the
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] the spine
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and then it can take everything down into millimetres and whatever it is, and see exactly where the damage is
[Ivy:] Oh
[Joy:] and erm, she phoned me the night before last for the results come through
[Ivy:] Oh what a shame
[Joy:] but she sold her house in Jersey, her husband retires in July, the school break, and erm and she said I've got some good, er when I got home from wherever I'd been, Rudy left me a note to say phone Val good news and I thought it were her back was good news, but she said no me medical problems were not good news, they daren't operate cos me back's in such a state and they haven't give her much hope for anything apart from a wheelchair sort of thing, later on in life and erm, but she said that I've got a bit of good news I've sold me house so I said ooh lovely, so she said I don't know any more but I ring you and let you know, the next night she phoned me back, she said yeah me house has gone they got two hundred and twenty thousand for it [LAUGHTER], they wanted them out a week on Thursday
[Ivy:] Oh my god
[Joy:] She's going
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] said she phoned me the night before last and she said she's been looking at flats I thought I'd just ring you to tell you we've been looking at flats and they range from two hundred and fifty to four hundred and eighty pounds a week for a flat
[Ivy:] A joke
[Joy:] So I said what you gonna do? I said you'd be better off to book into a guest house
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] and I, but you see John's ever such a funny eater, he's erm
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] erm, don't eat meat, what you call vegetarian
[Ivy:] Vegetarian, yeah
[Joy:] He'll eat fish, but he won't eat meat and erm, so probably likes a... he likes to do his own thing, I said well you ought to book in a hotel and
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] bed and breakfast rather than have to pay out all that
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] so erm, you know, you know my millionaire friends from Jersey that I used to talk
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] about, Tim and Pat
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] well they've got a guest house where they rent, they let five of the rooms off in the summer to such millionaires
[Ivy:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] and they just do bed and breakfast and I said I'm sure cos she knows Pat, she knows Val through me
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] so I said if you go up and see Pat I said I'm sure Pat will say well you know why don't you use the kitchen and come and live in
[Ivy:] Yeah, yeah
[Joy:] I mean if you're gonna pay them you might as well pay Val
[Ivy:] Might as well, yeah that's right
[Joy:] pay Pat and, and, and share her home
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] at least you'll live in the land of luxury, so she said I might just do that, so, well I'm not getting involved, let them sort it out
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] So erm I think John's gotta retire he suffers from these dreadful headaches now, they cri, they're killing him
[Ivy:] Shame
[Joy:] the pain is so intense
[Ivy:] Everybody's so poorly ain't they?
[Joy:] I think a lot of it's just a whole, everywhere is discontent at the moment, I dunno
[Ivy:] Very poorly
[Joy:] I don't know whether it's that we want much, too much
[Ivy:] I don't know what it is
[Joy:] but we're not
[Ivy:] it seems to have changed over the last few years
[Joy:] but I tell you what Val's put me back on my feet
[Ivy:] Did she?
[Joy:] ooh, when I told her how I'd been treated
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] she said you let them treat you like that,
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] I couldn't believe it, she says I'm, well... at the bingo the other night she She never even said to ask me
[Ivy:] I said to I know she were, she were brick shit she were, I said to Lyn I said I'm bloody sure, I could have actually, she, she were nearly eating out of my arm, in them last few weeks, I'll tell you, ooh the encouragement I got about the driving ooh I can't do it Lyn and when I comes in that day the first test I had she'd made a great big fucking cake
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] I said you can put that away I've failed
[Joy:] Didn't you?
[Ivy:] No,
[Joy:] No
[Ivy:] never liked her, she knew it and all, and that last day I walked out I said bye, bye Debbie, she said, she went, she got in, in the car quick and I wound her up so that she weren't too sure, do you know what I mean?
[Joy:] I wouldn't have
[Ivy:] I'm glad that's the only thing I'm thankful for
[Joy:] they said oh we've done
[Ivy:] being out of there, well I never
[Joy:] they said oh hope we don't have a reunion
[Ivy:] Yeah I'm bleeding sure
[Joy:] I'm sure that
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] all the girls will want all to get together I said no
[Ivy:] No
[Joy:] I don't want to know, I said I don't want to know
[Ivy:] Nor do I
[Joy:] So she said
[Ivy:] that was the laugh with David he said erm, he said about that and that cos when he had this, they had this big farewell thing didn't they at the bowling alley and I never went and I was the only one... and erm they come round, they come round and I thought yeah I really
[Joy:] Is that the one Pam went to?
[Ivy:] Yeah, they come round and they were all on about it and er, erm and that was it, Darren called us all into the canteen, well I, I mean Pam must have told you that I was, I couldn't get over it and he said thanks for all you've done, all your support and I thought yeah yeah, well they called us in the canteen and they said everybody there's a meeting, so I thought oh christ cos it was just a standard joke me and Elaine, cos the last meeting they had, I were at the leisure shop then and they called the meeting to tell us it was the end and it was closing, and me and Elaine sneaked down the hall and we were going like this
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] you see, so, after that shop it came over the tannoy me and Elaine staying open, I ain't going, I can't handle it I said I just wanna get out, it was really like a sentence I just couldn't stand it... of course I laughed, me and Elaine went to the meeting same place, same wall and I kept looking at her and we brought you in here to say thanks, and Elaine looked at me and I looked at her and I said well if that's all he's gotta say I said I'm not, I, what did I say to Elaine? I said don't hold your breath Elaine but if it's what I think's in that carrier bag over there it ain't a voucher, cos they all were saying
[Joy:] What were it?
[Ivy:] I wonder if we've got twenty five pound voucher there would be some oh greed at the front you know, and there was a, all of us attended this meeting and that's every single person in the building and I bet there was fifteen... maximum twenty, that was all that was left in the whole building
[Joy:] Is that the day Jane asked them about the pension, how much there'd
[Ivy:] No, that was pension no that was another day, and then he said and there's just a small token of thanks, so I said small it's fucking minu minute
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] and for twenty of us there was two half pound boxes of Dairy Box... I said are you sure you can afford it? He said he climbed up squabbling, seven Debbie had in her hand... you never seen nothing like it Joy I couldn't, oh it made me really ill
[Joy:] Cor I don't know all about it
[Ivy:] Really make a bundle of laugh
[Joy:] I just, I tell you what, I, I know it sounds nasty, but I am glad that Penny is some way has had something that has made her realised what that place was all about.
[Ivy:] Yeah, cos you couldn't see it
[Joy:] No
[Ivy:] No I know, I know she couldn't
[Joy:] she never, never could, and I said what I tried to tell you all
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] I knew,
[Ivy:] that day when I said to her I always remember on one occasion
[Joy:] I knew
[Ivy:] I remember as clear as day, standing talking to Penny and I was calling their plumber, I'll always remember that and er I was quite took back and Penny said ooh she's been very good to me
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] and I thought oh Penny if only you knew
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] she ain't mate, she might be on the outside but she really ain't, cos Penny's such a lovely girl and I thought, and I thought, I've seen Penny butter up
[Joy:] Penny who? You think you see, my mate Penny
[Ivy:] to her and I've seen her laugh
[Joy:] but you see Penny's got no compassion, although she's me sister
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] she's got no compassion for nobody else, as long as Penny's alright, Penny's alright and, I mean, I don't, I don't say, say your own, to be
[Ivy:] Say what's in your mind, I like people like that
[Joy:] Mm, mm
[Ivy:] but I don't, I didn't like this if people didn't like what I, there was other women
[Joy:] That's right not straight to me at all
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] and there was only two people I felt comfortable, two and that was Barbara and June, that, that the two people I felt, one of them looked
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and when I said that to Penny she said well that's nice she said you've gotta lot of, a lot of friends at home, I said no, I haven't got friends
[Ivy:] You know
[Joy:] I know people
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] that put up with me, I know people that don't like me
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] and I know people that
[Ivy:] you suss it out
[Joy:] do like me, I can tell you all about others from three weeks after I there, I was there I could have told you everything about it
[Ivy:] Suss it up
[Joy:] Every one of them I told them all about peep hole
[Ivy:] I mean it's like when I walk in
[Joy:] looked what he's done to them
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] He wouldn't even give Pam a typewriter, he sold it under her nose
[Ivy:] I know, I know, because as I say they gave a
[Joy:] and he said I know who I'd believe, I said who would you believe? She said well I know, cos when Elaine went to pick it up she said, Elaine told her I wouldn't want to make the choice out of two typewriters, I just said Pam didn't really care what she had as long as she had one
[Ivy:] Yeah I wanted one, it weren't even mentioned.
[Joy:] and he said and, and, and Pam said when Elaine asked Keith he said if she can't come here and pick one up, she don't get one, I said and that is as much as Keith thought about any of you
[Ivy:] Oh yeah
[Joy:] I said and you all used to look at him as if he was bloody king
[Ivy:] king
[Joy:] when you're playing cards
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] take me for a prat of the first order
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] and I told you that from the minute he sat down and he started playing, I'm a card shark, nobody tells me what I know about bloody cards
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] and when he used to say things about cards, I said you can't do that, but because he were who he is we had to shut our mouth
[Ivy:] He thought he had to be right, yeah that's right
[Joy:] but he weren't right
[Ivy:] No
[Joy:] and I told him he wasn't
[Ivy:] That's right, that's exactly right
[Joy:] I told him you don't pull the wool over my eyes, you might pull the rest, it over the rest, not this one, I said if you wanna play cards
[Ivy:] That's what happens
[Joy:] with me, you play the rule, but when they came in and they said all this thank you, Keith, Daryl said to Keith I want a word now you know, and I stood there, I mean there weren't a lot, I didn't have no back-up, when everybody went
[Ivy:] No
[Joy:] there weren't many that sort, that felt the way I did, I mean I hated him, I really did and when he turned round and he said ooh Keith wants a few words I said to Elaine, look shit's gonna be it, I'll tell him or anyone, and I meant it, so he started on about this night at the bowling club, but it was his actions Joy, I want to know who's coming, we need to know, I thought but why's he fucking boss me about on my private time, anyway to cut a long story short they booked all this night out and I watched and I waited I thought let them clock that I'm not going, so then comes a phone call, David was in the bottom office so was the letter shark, and this phone call came over and David shouted up to all of us on the machine who's going on Thursday night? Of course they're all putting their hands up by me see, and Da, I thought David would clock, and he never said a word, I thought he ain't sussed it, anyway they went on this night out and the girls kept saying, Debbie saying oh Lynn just come, I said I ain't got no intentions of coming, I said David's going amongst all the others I'm not going, so Debbie said why, I said why because David is nothing but a wanker, a lot, along, a lot of the others, she said, she nearly fell off the chair, gordon bennett she said I never thought you, I never realised you felt like that, I said Debbie if you knew half of what I thought you would fall off that chair
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] and then the next day I was in that shop working away and on my life this was
[speaker002:] ...
[Joy:] I said are you looking at me David, or is there a dog in here? Cos I wouldn't, the only reason I kept stoom was for my redundancy, it was only six hundred quid, but every ha'penny I want to get off them, do you know what I mean?... He come hareing up, you know, he's a prat ain't he? He said... where were you last night? I said put that finger down and I might tell you, I said don't point at me David I don't like being pointed at and Maureen nearly fell over, Maureen stood there, she nearly fell over
[Ivy:] Oh
[Joy:] so he said... I said I don't have to tell you where I were last night David, I were out, so I said even if I were in it's none of your concern I said what I do in my private time is up to me, he said well why wasn't you there?
[Ivy:] Oh did he?
[Joy:] I said I pretend I'd never heard that question David, because if I answer it... I said there's a lot more
[Ivy:] He knew what
[Joy:] could be at stake
[Ivy:] yeah I know
[Joy:] than my job... then he said I presume you've got mixed feelings, I said no my feelings aren't mixed up at all, I'm quite, I'm quite sure of my feelings of what I know, I said David I wouldn't associate myself, I wouldn't drink... and I wouldn't go out with anybody in this building... and he nearly fell over and he said dare I ask why? I said don't ever dare
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] cos I said you'll be here to midnight David... and then on the day we were going he stopped me and Jane, little Jane, she was coming down the stairs behind me, I'd been up for a fax, and I don't know where she'd been, she was behind me and as she come down the stairs I was listening and he said... got her hand ooh he said I am gonna miss you my dear, so she said yes I'll miss Hodems as well, he said you have got a way with your words haven't you, he said for one strange minute I thought you were gonna say you'll miss me too
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I said oh David you are naive
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I said you're more naive than what I thought cos he hates, he hates me and vice versa, and he said er, who asked your opinion? I said no bugger ever asked my opinion David but you can guarantee I'm always there to give it
[Ivy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] you see him, his face was like thunder
[Ivy:] But you see, that, that night Penny were called in
[Joy:] Ah
[Ivy:] she were going it, she were going home, ten to six and they just, can we
[Joy:] Oh I cried when Penny went I really did, I said you with a temper... and that last day you know, we all got a bucket filled it up with ash trays, dog ends, bits of paper, oh I don't know what was in it
[Ivy:] What you do, stick it in the fountain?
[Joy:] No, stuck it over David's head, he were on the phone to a client, we took a photo, somebody took a photo of it, we knocked on the door we said David have you got a minute? He said no I'm on the phone and then they took a photo and that, Geraldine was there and they tipped the whole fucking bucket on his head, he had dog ends in his hair, and everything and he went you, he didn't know what to say, and we said see you David all the best.
[Ivy:] Have you got your money then?
[Joy:] Yeah... no we haven't, no we haven't been paid yet, no that's, that's right we hate to got back with
[Ivy:] Cos Jenny, Jenny owes Barbara a lot of money you know.
[Joy:] I saw her and I, I be honest with you I hid, I be totally honest and I'll tell her the same if I see her because I've just found out then that they couldn't do any more for me dad and I really didn't want to speak or see anybody and I sat in the canteen on my own, I just said to me mum, mum on the phone I said mum I need to do this on my own I said I'm just gonna have a coffee in the cafeteria and I don't know if you've been in there but the cafeteria is all glass and she pulled up in a white van delivering something to the office, I thought oh no it's Jenny she's the last bleeding person I want there, I don't mean that you know, and so I avoided her, but I would tell her, but if I saw her I would say Jenny I must admit I did see you going in The General but I didn't come out because I was so upset, but I, I wonder what she's doing, cos she, I heard she's got her own business, but I can't see that.
[Ivy:] I know but she owes a lot of people a lot of money...
[Joy:] Might have been
[Ivy:] cos she, you heard about all the union didn't you, what happened with the union down there? They split it between everybody
[Joy:] The union money or your
[Ivy:] Yeah, you know, you know
[Joy:] Which?
[Ivy:] we all come out of the union
[Joy:] Who split the union money then?
[Ivy:] Well when you all went, as you all left, when the last lot of redundancies were made, I said I'm not paying no more union, Judith come over about the union meeting, I said I'm not going to the meeting Judith and I said I want to come out of the union I'm not paying any more, I said I can't afford ten pound a month for crap, well me and Jan had a big barney over it cos I never got on with her anyway and we had a big fucking row about it, she said the union this, the union that, I said where were the unions with my mates, they weren't in damn site, they were never there, we never saw one union representative from the day Audrey got done and we never ever saw erm till the last one got done, I said so don't you tell me about the union I said they did fuck all, they weren't even here, so I said I don't want to pay the union, and I said don't tell me what to do Jane, I said what I do with me money is up to me I said get me out the union and get me out now, and then they all started, they all wanted to come out of it then, oh Maureen I think I might but what would Debbie say, I said Maureen do you ask her for a shit? You not got a mind of your own, do what you want to do
[Joy:] Well that's, that's the trouble you see they're all mindless aren't they?
[Ivy:] Well then they all come out, everybody, even Dave come out of the union and the only two that were left in it were Jane and Karen on our side and a couple from the warehouse and like there was Judith and I think Sonyou and a couple from the letter shop I, I, I don't know, I don't think Elaine went but I think the rest were, yes there were Pam and I think, I think Nigel were, but anyway when Judith comes up about what union money was left, I don't know where it was left from or how it's imposed, but they split the between everyone, they had thirteen quid each
[Joy:] Did they?
[Ivy:] and a little master Jane she said that was good weren't it? I said you taking the piss out of them Jane or what? I said you ain't sharp I said you've got all your priorities wrong I said you stood there Jane with thirteen pound ain't you, in an envelope? She said yeah ain't it good? I said I think that's wonderful I said cos do you know how long I've been out the union now, three months, well I reckon I've saved thirty pounds, you've got thirteen quid back
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Ivy:] so you've really lost twenty odd quid Jane haven't you really?
[Joy:] No, she could
[Ivy:] she couldn't, she ain't got the mentality to
[Joy:] No, she with Lynnette hasn't she?
[Ivy:] Oh yeah yeah, no over that woman's feet, cos you know what she did, she rang up Lynnette, she got through to the wrong extension Debbie answered, she slammed the phone down, and Debbie knew it were her she went mad
[Joy:] Who, knew it were who?
[Ivy:] Lynnette...
[Joy:] And Debbie
[Ivy:] Deb, Deb rang back on reception and said there's been a call, they got cut off, so she said oh that was Lynnette so Debbie said and put the phone down and she rung straight over onto Jan's extension and asked to speak to Maureen and Jan, so Debbie got a snip of it cos Judith refused, she said rude cow, she said she needn't have slammed the phone down she could have at least said hello so they had her dinner time said Jan was that Lynnette on the phone? So she said yes, she was cocky weren't she Jan?
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] So she said I think that was damn rude she said she's just slammed the phone down on Deborah and there's really no need for that, well she said it's private between me and Debbie, then we found out she got her a job
[Joy:] Yeah
[Ivy:] and she'd offered it to Maureen three months before and Maureen turned it down, and they went mad they said you little creep Jan, little bloody sneak
[Joy:] Yeah, but they were all like that, they'd all stab you in the back.
[Ivy:] I tell you, you, the bitchiness in there when everybody went berserk was terrible, it made me laugh cos I never entertain none of them, I'd just used to sit there and laugh, I never spoke to David from the day everybody left.
[Joy:] I know me and Jenny had a do erm, when I went on post cash, you know when Janet was there?
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Er, not Janet, Janet for Barbara's friend pretty Janet with the toner
[Ivy:] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
[Joy:] and also you know when Janet's doing a stint because you can see if Barbara's smokes well me and Jenny had a do that week and then you, it were my birthday on the Wednesday weren't it?
[Ivy:] Mm
[Joy:] And we left on the Friday
[Ivy:] That's right
[Joy:] and, and Jan, Jan
[Ivy:] I was on holiday weren't I? I was at Newcastle
[Joy:] No I think you were there
[Ivy:] cos when I come back you'd all gone
[Joy:] That's right, that's right
[Ivy:] Yeah
[Joy:] cos there were only you and Marion weren't there and we knew somebody else would be kicked out.
[Ivy:] That's right, yeah, that's right I remember posting your card from Yarmouth I think it was.
[Joy:] Well you know where Penny's old desk were, where she sat looking up towards the, and Jenny sat there and Joan sat there, this Janet was sitting there and on that Friday morning when the phone had rung, well I got up and I went to go upstairs to take something or a fax coming for me or something, and as I went past Lynnette hit me on my shoulder and she said it's me Pat, Pat she said it's me, oh Pat I said what's, what's going on? So of course I never thought no more, went upstairs and got me fax and on the way back Ann was coming downstairs, I said what's going on Ann? She said it's a big, big cut off, if your phone rings you're out, so of course the phone were ringing, then it went to one in post, no it never, it went first from Ann from Lynnette then to Ann and then it went to Kathy and then it went to erm... somebody else and then it come to me but I've got seven hundred thousand pounds worth of money on my desk that I were banking and Jane had got that job and Jane was on post in cash cos she ain't got a job cos that thing with them shoes didn't take off and do you know
[Ivy:] Well I've never know anyone like that.
[Joy:] Jenny said erm, this time it said I couldn't stand, when we all come out at twelve o'clock and the shock had hit us and we sort of said oh well we're better off out of it, I'll, I've survived twenty five years without, I shall survive again, and when Jan, and Janet was so sick and then I turn round and Janet says I'm with you girl, I said where you going? She said I just went in there and she said I couldn't stand any more, she said do you know Joy she said you're one of the nicest people I know, she said I tell you what I've never heard in my life two people stab somebody like you're being stabbed, she says I couldn't sit there any more
[Ivy:] That's right, that's right
[Joy:] so she said I, I went in and I said to Geraldine I'm going I owe you any bloody money take the bugger out me wages, she says I ain't having people that I like being stabbed like that by people like that, she said she ain't worth the salt of the earth, she's the salt of the earth she said with people like that pointing to Jenny and Jane, no way, she said and I'm going with my mates, I turned round and the next thing Janet and Janet and Barbara in there, when we got up the pub at twelve o'clock, course we were all having sandwiches me and Pam got the, me and er Barb got there, then Pam come in then a few more come and erm then the plumber and all that come in with them and I said oh girls we never clocked out, so I said oh well I'm gonna have to take my key back to Steve [LAUGHTER], burst out laughing, so I said oh no I said why don't we have a key cracking competition so of course that's what we did we all took our keys out of our bag and we went ready [singing] for she's a jolly good [] ready, steady, [singing] fellow, for she's [] go and we cracked these ruddy keys and shoved them up in the air
[Ivy:] Oh
[Joy:] Dave face, ee, it was evil, and she said
[Ivy:] Can imagine
[Joy:] guess, her, her punchline, those keys are fifty pence each
[Ivy:] No
[Joy:] She did, I'd never forget it as long as I live, I thought to myself well you stupid cow, all she could think of was a fifty pence key, so I, I said to them, I said to the girls I'm glad to be out but of course when they all went cos there was Lynda and all the girls from customer service that were kicked out and all of us that were there and they all said oh we've gotta go back to work and we said oh ain't that a shame you know, and we all went back to work and they all went
[Penny:] Pat's gone to theatre has she, yeah?
[Rudy:] No, not I'm going in the!
[Penny:] Come on, Leo!... Come!
[Rudy:] To you.
[Penny:] Come... and listen to this new car.
[Wendy:] Yeah, I've seen it before often.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Yeah... he looked good.
[Penny:] Leo, come!... Good boy!... Come here!... Come here!
[Rudy:] Is he supposed to go the opposite way?
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Come here []!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] ... Lie down!... Down!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Lie down!... Come on get down!
[Rudy:] Ge look look, look, get down!
[Penny:] Leo, down!... Down!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Look that's it... he's having a fit Joy []!
[Penny:] Well that's erm....
[Rudy:] She's
[Penny:] You stay!... Stay! You put your... your thing in the water [LAUGHTER] look []!
[Rudy:] What?
[Penny:] You dipped it in the water!
[Rudy:] Did I?
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Well that's the first wash it's had all week!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]... Getting a bit of a hazard this place!
[Wendy:] Oh dear!... Cor it's all bloody at it again!
[Penny:] Well er... so we don't know they're gonna get the trailer off this car.
[Wendy:] No, no I couldn't get them out the
[Penny:] Right now leave it there so... Couldn't see about
[Wendy:] Yeah you
[Penny:] the weekend?
[Wendy:] I see him Saturday morning, when he comes to work at five o'clock yes.
[Rudy:] We got roast beef we got the most important
[Penny:] Well, say you want it off him then, then... and then
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] I'll call in and pick you
[Wendy:] Right.
[Penny:] up Saturday sometime.
[Wendy:] Alright I'll come in... I co, we're coming by here Saturday.
[Penny:] Okay... alright.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Are you a stamp?... Derek?
[Wendy:] And if you want any sharpening done... erm... sharpening service and some sharpening
[Rudy:] Who's doing that?
[Penny:] Me!... It's all part of my earning a living!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Really?
[Wendy:] You still do that Stewart?
[Penny:] Yeah, I've just thought I've go... I've gotta call Val... she said she were coming to shop.
[Wendy:] I thought you set that old dear up?
[Penny:] I did, but I, I don't... get everything up if it... I'm not knocking on doors for it.
[Joy:] No just ours!
[Penny:] But I've got one in the do-it-yourself shop here you see, and I thought I might as well put one in Val's two shops.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Cos I call on them everyday, I can pick the tools up and deliver them the next day.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] So she [dog barks] I'm serious, she gets
[Joy:] Mm.
[Penny:] paid properly!...
[Wendy:] ... just
[Joy:] I think only us two.
[Wendy:] I like them.
[Penny:] Here, take a glass.
[Joy:] No, I don't want a glass, I don't want any bitter.
[Penny:] I've got sparkling
[Wendy:] What?
[Penny:] water, if you like
[Joy:] No, I don't want anything.
[Wendy:] Tip some away in there then.
[Joy:] What for?
[Penny:] There's plenty of lagers.
[Wendy:] Hey!... N, oh there's no way I'm gonna drink a whole pint!
[Joy:] there's a glass there.
[Wendy:] Cos there's a glass there look.
[Rudy:] I don't like it in a glass, it don't taste the same!
[Penny:] Well I don't like to say but I left them outside and the dog pissed over them!
[Wendy:] Your dog peed on the bloody tin
[Rudy:] I don't care!
[Wendy:] that's why!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]... You haven't got... you have got to [LAUGHTER] []!
[Rudy:] Not a problem!... I know.
[Penny:] Derek!
[Joy:] Now come on you lot of get one in this box!
[Wendy:] I don't what they put on it!
[Joy:] Get one in that box!
[Penny:] That'll do me if we could!
[Wendy:] Yeah... that'll do me!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] ... dry.
[Wendy:] Don't work!
[Rudy:] God!... I want a good card here.
[Joy:] Here it is.
[Penny:] Do they actually listen to it or do you edit it or... do they actually
[Joy:] No.
[Wendy:] have the original tape?
[Joy:] No, all the lot.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Oh I shall charge this! Right!... Back. Fifteen for two Derek... right on board mate.
[Joy:] Eighteen.
[Wendy:] Ooh eighteen! Eighteen.... Eighteen.
[Penny:] Twenty five.
[Joy:] Six and nine.
[Rudy:] That's a bit of luck!
[Joy:] Mm.
[Penny:] Yeah... it was... four!
[Rudy:] Four
[Joy:] teen.
[Penny:] Come on Derek!... You're looking very
[Wendy:] Four
[Penny:] smart tonight Derek!
[Wendy:] Twenty four!
[Joy:] Aha!
[Rudy:] Twenty nine.
[Penny:] Thirty.
[Joy:] No.
[Penny:] No?
[Rudy:] Mine's in the box... Joy!
[Joy:] Eight.
[Penny:] Say it again.
[Joy:] Twenty eight, two...... here we go.
[Wendy:] back, six.
[Joy:] Fourteen.
[Rudy:] Ooh ooh ooh!... Ooh!
[Joy:] Ooh it's a bit of a [LAUGHTER] long one, ha []!
[Wendy:] .
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four two six.
[Penny:] [sighing] Er []... far too complicated for me!
[Joy:] Go on then.
[Penny:] Fifteen two, fifteen
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Penny:] four... [LAUGHTER]... I'm sure I saw another one!... Fifteen two, fifteen four, pair six, six is twelve?... Is that it?
[Joy:] Yep.
[Rudy:] And your ace is no good.... Don't do nothing.
[Joy:] You ain't got none.
[Rudy:] Tuppence.
[Wendy:] What do you want?... Twelve on there, yes please.
[Rudy:] Twelve on there... and then you'd better put my two on
[Wendy:] Hang on.
[Rudy:] and make them look very extra specially good!
[Wendy:] Eleven twelve, so that
[Penny:] Be two... no, do I get two from both of you?
[Rudy:] Yeah, two.
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] I thought
[Rudy:] Fifteen?
[Joy:] No, two P each.
[Penny:] ... oh.
[Joy:] Two eights.... And Derek.
[Wendy:] Er, I think I've got three.
[Rudy:] Fifteen two in his hat.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] And his... and his sp pack
[Joy:] And his what?
[Wendy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four.
[Rudy:] That's your lot, there's no bloody more!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Give you a flipping chance to even enjoy it, do they?!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] I ta... I try and I try and rig a few wires up!
[Joy:] Yeah....
[Rudy:] Gotta a penny.
[Penny:] Derek and I kind of study them for we... for hours don't we?
[Rudy:] Well all men are the same, slow!
[Wendy:] Here we go!
[Penny:] Slow?
[Joy:] Good boy!
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!... What a lot of old crap!
[Rudy:] Didn't want that one!
[Wendy:] Where do you get this from?
[Penny:] [sighing] Ha []!
[Rudy:] Trouble is they're moreish.
[Joy:] Mm.
[Penny:] It's their box isn't it?
[Rudy:] Terrible!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Mm... yeah.... pulling out any good in it.
[Joy:] Cut us a good one... I'll cut it.
[Penny:] I'll cut... your
[Joy:] Yeah you did.... I
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!
[Rudy:] It's as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Or a chocolate fire guard!
[Wendy:] Or what?
[Rudy:] Chocolate fire guard!
[Wendy:] Ha... ha... eight.
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Rudy:] Twelve.
[Penny:] Ha... well this is dodgy!... Fifteen for two.
[Joy:] How's that?... Twenty five.
[Rudy:] Oh, ha.... Twenty six.
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] Nope.
[Wendy:] No.
[Rudy:] Seven for three.
[Penny:] [sighing] Ha []... oh.
[Wendy:] Date.
[Rudy:] Mhm.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Penny:] Fifteen two.
[Wendy:] Six nine nine... ooh.
[Joy:] Twenty two.
[Wendy:] Twenty two.
[Penny:] Two.
[Joy:] No.... Twenty two.
[Wendy:] Twenty two.
[Penny:] Twenty eight.
[Joy:] Nope!
[Wendy:] Keep picking them up boy!
[Rudy:] Nine.
[Wendy:] Alright.
[Penny:] Nineteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty nine
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] for one.
[Wendy:] Ten.
[Joy:] Twenty for two.
[Penny:] Oh crumbs!... Seventy five!
[Rudy:] Ohhh!
[Joy:] Ohhh!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] It's a wild one!
[Wendy:] Pick them up!
[Penny:] Look at that! I'm glad I didn't lay the one before you'd have
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] never had a three.
[Rudy:] Yeah, I would of done.
[Penny:] By bi, I sorted them out earlier
[Rudy:] I thought, well I knew you would, you'd be sorting something out!
[Penny:] Is it me first?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Fifteen two, three's five, one's not, six
[Rudy:] Change six.
[Wendy:] Er... I think I got
[Penny:] After you've had
[Wendy:] four.
[Joy:] And I think I got... one.
[Penny:] I told you, it starts hitting the old....
[Joy:] I think I got
[Wendy:] Nine, ten in the box!
[Joy:] Oh crumbs!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]... Right, let's starts, let's start.
[Rudy:] ... see that thumb?... You know where it'll get stuck in a minute!... That thumb!
[Wendy:] Ah!... Well we're ahead, mate we're ahead.
[Penny:] Yeah shut up!
[Rudy:] Shut up!
[Joy:] Shut up!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] That's the sound of a... that's a sound of a... worried man!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Oh bloody hell!
[Penny:] What?
[Wendy:] [whispering] Oh my God []!
[Penny:] In our box Derek.
[Wendy:] Yeah... I saw that one.
[Rudy:] Five.
[Joy:] Aha!
[Wendy:] Hello!... What's going on?
[Joy:] She's thinking.
[Rudy:] No, I think I'll change my mind.
[Joy:] Two.
[Wendy:] Hurgh... ha!... Oh Christ!
[Joy:] Oh what's that?
[Penny:] Are you unhappy?
[Wendy:] No, good at all!... No good at all!... Might help the buffs... might help the buffs.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Three... mm... right... oh well... twelve.... No... yeah... twelve.
[Joy:] Twenty two.
[Penny:] Twenty two... seventy for twenty nine.
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] No.
[Joy:] Nope
[Wendy:] Why, you reckon on getting number one on that?
[Joy:] Three... aha.
[Wendy:] Thirteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty.
[Wendy:] Thirty
[Rudy:] No ee
[Wendy:] for one.
[Rudy:] Three.
[Penny:] They all count Derek!
[Wendy:] Oh well Christ!... Nine.
[Joy:] Seventeen.
[Wendy:] Twenty seven
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] for one.
[Penny:] All these little ones he's got!
[Joy:] See yeah.
[Rudy:] Seven.
[Wendy:] Got twelve?
[Joy:] Yep.... Twenty.
[Penny:] Twenty.
[Wendy:] Twenty.
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] It's
[Wendy:] Ooh ah!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I can see that
[Wendy:] Nearly as big these ones aren't they?
[Rudy:] Well I'll tell you what, it was, it turned out to be for.... Dozen.
[Joy:] Fifteen
[Penny:] Fifteen two.
[Joy:] as before.
[Penny:] Yeah... dozen.
[Rudy:] Seven and two's nine, and six, is fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six, six is a dozen.
[Penny:] Fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six, yes, of course.... Got that.
[Joy:] That's a dozen.... Eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
[Wendy:] Then I got four again... that's your three!
[Rudy:] Your lucky... I've got six.
[Penny:] Derek the... the rot's set in mate!
[Wendy:] Two.
[Joy:] Thir
[Rudy:] Ahh!
[Joy:] Could you give tuppence to
[Rudy:] no.
[Wendy:] Can we get a... can we get... what's his name some
[Penny:] It's okay I'll get it, tuppence?
[Joy:] Tuppence.
[Rudy:] Dear!
[Penny:] Fifteen two... fifteen... four
[Rudy:] Yep.
[Penny:] And that's it Derek.
[Wendy:] And the
[Penny:] yeah on the box.
[Rudy:] Needn't look no more!
[Penny:] Come on Derek!... Our first take.
[Joy:] You and I
[Penny:] We haven't
[Wendy:] We haven't been round yet.... We, we're going around twice.
[Penny:] Oh bloody hell!
[Rudy:] Ah!
[Penny:] They'll never keep this up
[Rudy:] Come on!
[Penny:] for two rounds!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Move on.
[Joy:] Come on this mental intrigue it isn't doing you no good!
[Wendy:] I, I have... I've only had threes and fours, you know I've gotta get rolling yet.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Oh Christ this looks even worse!... Mm... Who's box, Joy's?.
[Joy:] Mine yeah.
[Rudy:] Joy's box.
[Joy:] Something nice would be very nice.
[Wendy:] I'll put something nice in there for you.
[Joy:] Put something good in, nice?
[Wendy:] Ooh ah!
[Joy:] You're a good lad!
[Wendy:] Well it looks like two or nothing here!
[Joy:] Mm.
[Rudy:] You're just lucky you've got the two!
[Wendy:] Oh!
[Rudy:] Got nothing at the moment.
[Penny:] Well I, I had done it at the interval.... I think after the Lord's Mayor's... it started off with a flourish but erm
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!... Ten.... Got nothing sensible to lay here either!
[Joy:] Er... nineteen.
[Penny:] Nineteen... er... twenty nine.
[Wendy:] Oh!... Two two five.
[Penny:] Ten.
[Joy:] Eighteen.
[Wendy:] Twenty eight.
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] Gosh!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I don't get like it when she laughs, that's really annoys me!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] He didn't laugh when I kept scoring those ones did we now?
[Joy:] Sixteen.
[Rudy:] Come on Derek, go on!
[Penny:] Twenty five.
[Joy:] Twenty six.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] That's fives, that's bloody!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] That's it!
[Joy:] Who?... For you?
[Penny:] Thirteen.
[Joy:] Oh I said the wrong one!
[Rudy:] Ohhh!
[Penny:] Nearly!
[Rudy:] Who's gonna have them?
[Penny:] You can't have fives and
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] I know []!
[Penny:] It's not in the rules.
[Joy:] A six would of been nice there though.
[Penny:] Er
[Wendy:] Er looks on two this time.
[Rudy:] Yeah but it's like... next week?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Looks like a twosome.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... four.
[Wendy:] Cor what's that!
[Joy:] Erm
[Penny:] Load of rubbish there!
[Joy:] Two.
[Wendy:] What's that?
[Rudy:] In the box?
[Joy:] Yeah a two.... And four in now.
[Penny:] Why do you put four in?
[Joy:] Yeah I don't know.
[Wendy:] I'll help you.
[Joy:] Seven and eight were the only two
[Penny:] Oh right.
[Joy:] that helped me.
[Wendy:] Looks like er
[Penny:] If you put those in with the two
[Wendy:] we're neck and neck.
[Joy:] Mm.
[Wendy:] Don't know, go round the corner.
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Joy:] No just put a
[Rudy:] I could of put the eight along with that one.
[Wendy:] I put an eight in... well
[Penny:] What's that like? Because tha, that [LAUGHTER] was the best value in Sainsbury's, Dutch
[Rudy:] I
[Penny:] lager.
[Wendy:] Is that what you bought Stew?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Did you buy that?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] I, I won a can the week, I meant to bring some.
[Penny:] What the Dutch lager or or the
[Wendy:] No not... don't know what I got.
[Penny:] I bought four... for last week and I never got that... and lucky I cancelled cos I didn't get back till nine o'clock!
[Wendy:] Didn't you?
[Penny:] No...., pop in and see the ex-wife on the way home.
[Joy:] Did you?
[Wendy:] What in Portugal?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Oh it's your daughter that's off to Portugal.
[Penny:] ... my ex is in my own home.
[Wendy:] Well this looks a bit better.
[Rudy:] This is no I've got nothing in my hand!
[Wendy:] Oh I've got something then.
[Joy:] Oh you've got
[Penny:] Oh I'm glad you have Derek, cos I haven't my boy!
[Wendy:] Ooh you little blagger! [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] One four.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... [LAUGHTER] What []?
[Penny:] Fourteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty four for two.
[Penny:] Seven is.... Well done Derek!... Sixteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty six.
[Wendy:] Twenty eight.
[Joy:] No.
[Penny:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Thirty for two.
[Penny:] Ooh!... No
[Joy:] Thirty for two?
[Penny:] yes.
[Wendy:] Yes.
[Penny:] And
[Wendy:] Thirty one for threes!
[Penny:] Ooh ooh!
[Rudy:] Ahhh!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Eight.
[Joy:] Eight.
[Penny:] Eight.
[Rudy:] You'll, you'll never get
[Penny:] Ten.
[Rudy:] half the winning profit!
[Wendy:] I can that.
[Rudy:] I bet you did!... Ten.
[Joy:] Nineteen.... I'm on my own.... Oh sorry!
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] No.... I don't see any
[Wendy:] twenty five.
[Rudy:] Yeah if you get
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Oh my little darlings!
[Joy:] A... A dozen.
[Rudy:] Oh!
[Penny:] I've got nothing here
[Rudy:] Give that woman, two P!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Twos and twos is four.
[Rudy:] Twos and twos is four... well I'll add it up and with
[Wendy:] Alright
[Rudy:] any luck it's me.
[Wendy:] Yep.
[Rudy:] Eight, nine, ten look!
[Joy:] I had them last time.
[Wendy:] Mm.
[Penny:] So
[Wendy:] I got er... fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six, fifteen eight... and two's ten innit?
[Joy:] Yeah, fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six and two's eight, not ten!
[Rudy:] Eight yeah.
[Wendy:] Nine and six fo... nine and six
[Rudy:] You've only got one six to go with your nine
[Wendy:] Fifteen two.... Oh yeah, fifteen four
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six and two's eight.
[Rudy:] Fifteen six and two's eight.
[Wendy:] Two's eight, yeah.
[Rudy:] Yeah, we'll give you eight for that.
[Wendy:] Four four's eight.
[Joy:] Just cos you didn't want to pay us!
[Wendy:] No... oh bloody hell Stewart!
[Penny:] I think I put a nine in the box.
[Joy:] Ooh yeah you did, I can see it!
[Penny:] There's one in there.
[Wendy:] Nine, ten, jack
[Joy:] Good job you did!
[Wendy:] one, two, three, four, five, six... two's eight.
[Joy:] Eight.
[Penny:] Have we done alright?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] My king didn't do no good at all!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Where are they, and where are we?
[Wendy:] They're just round the corner.
[Penny:] Just a minute, you going u
[Rudy:] We're only three holes, two holes in front of you.
[Joy:] Nothing yet.
[Penny:] How the hell do you get in front? I thought we were ahead!
[Wendy:] Ha.
[Joy:] No we just had a dozen
[Rudy:] We just had a dozen!
[Joy:] didn't I?
[Penny:] Oh.... Bloody hell... thought we were in the lead Derek, you sure you're not going backwards?
[Wendy:] We are in the lead.
[Penny:] No we're not!... They're ahead, they said.
[Joy:] Yeah, only by one.
[Penny:] Look, they're there and we're there!
[Joy:] Yeah... look two holes, that's all, there's only tuppence
[Wendy:] Yeah, that's right, that's it.
[Joy:] to pay at the moment... either way.
[Penny:] I just did, I finished up with an eight on one of those there.
[Wendy:] Stew my boy!
[Penny:] I don't reckon my father's pleased.
[Rudy:] Yeah he is.
[Joy:] Perhaps he is.
[Wendy:] Yeah he bloody is!
[Rudy:] He don't miss nothing I tell you!
[Wendy:] I wouldn't say that exactly, but I don't miss nothing.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Liar []!
[Wendy:] Who's ro, it's your box.
[Penny:] Right... erm... hang about
[Joy:] I spoke to my dad in town, he say, [LAUGHTER] do you only ever play cards []?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Hey?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] When she played all them tapes back, I said, do you only ever play cards []?
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]... No, I go to bingo
[Joy:] That's all I have
[Wendy:] sometimes!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] That's all they are at the minute... cards!... Well they're getting a true language on this, I tell you!... Cut that pack Stewart.
[Penny:] Has... somebody got to sit here and listen to all this rubbish?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Oh well.
[Rudy:] Now.
[Wendy:] Oh God!
[Rudy:] Ahh!
[Joy:] Shi... shiver my timbers!
[Penny:] with me.
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] Might help the box.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Four.
[Wendy:] Did you get that tape... all clean?
[Joy:] Mhm.
[Penny:] Do you know the light flickered.
[Wendy:] Twenty.
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] All that way round!
[Penny:] Er... nine.
[Rudy:] Fifteen... and a flush for two.
[Joy:] Yes, fifteen.
[Penny:] Fifteen, take no notice of that.
[Wendy:] Fifteen, oh Christ!
[Penny:] Come on off that.
[Wendy:] Fifteen.
[Penny:] Four.
[Wendy:] Twenty three.
[Joy:] Twenty seven.
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] Right..
[Wendy:] Ten.
[Joy:] Twenty.
[Wendy:] Twenty seven.
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] Seven.
[Wendy:] Ooh good, we've bloody got one
[Rudy:] Again.
[Wendy:] Stewart!
[Penny:] Yeah, and we got another two... fifteen for two.
[Joy:] Twenty and one.
[Wendy:] Twenty
[Penny:] Mm.
[Wendy:] one and ten.
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] Aha!
[Penny:] Twenty six.
[Rudy:] Just one hole!
[Penny:] Oh... even.
[Rudy:] What is that one?
[Wendy:] Six we got.
[Penny:] So I've got precious little, if nothing here! Erm... fifteen two and a pair is four.
[Wendy:] Oh.
[Joy:] I got the same, four.
[Wendy:] Oh, I've got a few more than that, fifteen two, fifteen
[Penny:] Did you get fifteen four Derek?
[Wendy:] four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
[Joy:] Oh, fifteen two, fifteen four... five's nine, yeah.... You took it out
[Rudy:] Did you? He did, he did.
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] I've got two, to turn up.
[Rudy:] Put it in the box then.
[Joy:] Two.
[Rudy:] Two.
[Joy:] Four.
[Penny:] I've got four, that's more than enough... you have any more than those.
[Rudy:] No, not enough
[Wendy:] Well, well what a good game ay?
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Wendy:] We've gotta get down to here look.
[Penny:] Yes, it's their first take.
[Rudy:] Yeah but we got three hands against their two.
[Penny:] Oh shut up!
[Wendy:] We got three
[Penny:] Ooh sorry I didn't mean that
[Wendy:] We got three hands against their
[Penny:] shouldn't be rude!
[Rudy:] Oh no that isn't.
[Wendy:] It's our box... it's our box innit?
[Rudy:] Yeah I know, but we got two hands against your one.
[Wendy:] We've got three hands to their two, yeah.
[Penny:] Yeah... psychological warfare!
[Rudy:] Don't want to get too big they won't know how to spell psychological-el!
[Wendy:] Psychological.
[Joy:] Psychological!
[Wendy:] You get your dozen and I'll get my four
[Penny:] I added that... for the old tape, you know?
[Rudy:] Did you?
[Penny:] Mm... rather than being monosyllabic.
[Rudy:] Monosyllabic... oh!... Oh God, not.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Right... let's keep this... under control!
[Joy:] This is stupid!
[Wendy:] Yeah, it is a bit!
[Joy:] Well ain't you nothing?
[Rudy:] What if I have!... Excuse me!
[Wendy:] I got my er... you know
[Penny:] Outside, two minutes!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] No problem....
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Right.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Don't be subservient!
[Wendy:] Yeah but... that's not bloody there and then!... What's he doing now?
[Penny:] That's a
[Wendy:] Yeah... oh can't stand!
[Joy:] Eight.
[Rudy:] Eight.
[Wendy:] Eighteen
[Penny:] Go on get in there!
[Joy:] Thirty seven.
[Rudy:] Thirteen.
[Penny:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] Thirty.
[Wendy:] Go on boy! That a boy!
[Rudy:] Eight.
[Penny:] No, not that many... two!
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] Four
[Rudy:] four.
[Wendy:] Two and two's
[Penny:] Is it?
[Wendy:] four... yeah.
[Penny:] Oh... cos I thought, sorry I should of shut up then!
[Joy:] Yes you'd better!
[Penny:] Eighteen.
[Joy:] Twenty three.
[Penny:] Oh... twenty seven.
[Joy:] No.
[Wendy:] No.
[Rudy:] Twenty eight.
[Wendy:] No.
[Penny:] It's damned exciting!
[Joy:] Twenty.
[Penny:] Want a queen don't I? No I don't.
[Joy:] Three.
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] Twenty
[Wendy:] No....
[Penny:] thirty, nobody's
[Joy:] Yep.
[Penny:] got the aces so that's another one.
[Joy:] Two for you, one for us. Was that a ten?
[Rudy:] No it's a king.
[Joy:] Yeah, he said
[Rudy:] No it weren't
[Joy:] two, three holes.
[Wendy:] Got two of them.... Two of them
[Rudy:] That's right.
[Wendy:] Ten.
[Rudy:] Ten, we're gone.
[Penny:] You're going again?
[Wendy:] Nineteen.
[Rudy:] With just one hole for you.
[Wendy:] That's right.
[Penny:] Right.
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six, and two's eight... five, six, seven, eight.
[Wendy:] And I've got four... again... down there.
[Penny:] I thought you were gonna get home?
[Wendy:] Go home, look.
[Rudy:] Four.
[Wendy:] Go home.
[Rudy:] Sixteen.
[Wendy:] God!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] By the way she sat there I knew she was home, she was all confident!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] And.
[Wendy:] Eighty four.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Where's the chocolates.
[Rudy:] Ohhh!
[Wendy:] Go on, let's give them to her.
[Rudy:] This one's on the
[Penny:] And how many pegs were there, he's taken them out now.
[Joy:] How many pegs were, eight?
[Wendy:] Not taking out no more
[Rudy:] Yeah eighteen, four pence each.
[Joy:] Four pence each, cor that's a bit under!
[Penny:] if I pay four pence to you.
[Joy:] .
[Rudy:] [singing] Money, money, money [].
[Joy:] That's not four pence!... That's eight pence!
[Penny:] Oh, alright.
[Wendy:] All!
[Penny:] No, it weren't
[Wendy:] Ah.
[Penny:] eight!... That's all
[Rudy:] Yeah eight pence, four pence
[Wendy:] Four pence.
[Rudy:] each innit?
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Oh I see.
[Rudy:] We're not playing eight
[Wendy:] We're halving it.
[Rudy:] pence each,ye, yeah we're halving it.
[Penny:] Oh.
[Joy:] But there's four
[Penny:] But who's gonna get my?
[Rudy:] What have we just said?
[Joy:] Disgrace!
[Penny:] I don't mind.
[Wendy:] No, you said you were on the dole!
[Penny:] Alright.
[Wendy:] Yeah well don't matter!... He.
[Penny:] I hope you haven't put you're on the dole on there and drawing money for this!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Yeah... is on the side and we'll have to fine him.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I'm learning to do
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] mechanics next!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Did you get that sir!
[Rudy:] I shall stop my milk round week after next!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Mm... bloody hell!
[Joy:] A load of rubbish!
[Wendy:] Probably wi wi, who's to, who's go is it?
[Joy:] Mine.
[Wendy:] Here are.
[Joy:] oi!
[Penny:] Didn't like doing that!... You sure, you had the box last time didn't you?
[Rudy:] She won
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] it again.
[Penny:] Oh!... Right chaps!... Three.
[Rudy:] Right chaps!... Eleven.
[Joy:] Eleven.
[Penny:] Ooh eleven... mm.
[Wendy:] [sneeze]
[Penny:] Fifteen for two.
[Joy:] How many?
[Rudy:] Nineteen.
[Penny:] That's it start the way
[Joy:] Twenty two for six.
[Penny:] you mean to go on Derek!
[Rudy:] Twenty seven for six.... That shut you up mhm!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Did a bit!... Twenty seven, twenty eight.
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] [cough]... no.
[Joy:] Nope.
[Penny:] Twenty nine for two goes three then.
[Joy:] Oh alright!... Eight.... Well we got the other one.
[Wendy:] Eighteen.
[Joy:] Twenty eight.
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] ...
[Penny:] Oh God I don't like doing this! Five.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Wendy:] Fifteen... twenty.
[Joy:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] Six.
[Wendy:] Twelve for two.
[Rudy:] And one for that one... that's it.
[Penny:] I'm short of something somewhere... fifteen two, fifteen four, pair of six that's all I can there Joy.
[Joy:] Yeah that's all you got.... And I got fifteen two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and two's ten.
[Penny:] Er... got fifteen two
[Joy:] Nice little turn up for me, that one.
[Wendy:] Fifteen four... and one for, five.
[Joy:] One doz.
[Wendy:] Cor bloody hell!
[Penny:] Derek... how did they get these dozens?
[Wendy:] I told you that one.
[Joy:] Erm... just two I think, that's all, seven and three two's twenty two.
[Penny:] That, that was luck weren't it Derek?
[Joy:] Five in and all.
[Penny:] I must say it's a pleasure to give you that
[Rudy:] Fifteen two.
[Penny:] I do admire it when somebody gets a good score.... [whispering] Go to sleep my [].
[Wendy:] When I start playing
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] we'll be alright.
[Penny:] Did you get them?
[Rudy:] I love them but then... they're very drying aren't they these?
[Wendy:] These are my favourites.... Don't have too many
[Rudy:] We've just have
[Wendy:] they give me wind!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] so ahhh!
[Rudy:] Ahhh my God!
[Joy:] So does
[Rudy:] Sausage, bacon, egg, black pudding, chips and peas.
[Penny:] What tonight?
[Rudy:] Yeah.... Then we have blackberry and apple crumble and ice cream.
[Joy:] Just like that.
[Wendy:] [cough]
[Penny:] I dunno.
[Rudy:] It's good for you.
[Wendy:] [sneeze]
[Penny:] Yeah if you two say so.
[Rudy:] Do you say so?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Well, got nothing here Stewart.
[Penny:] Need a turn up.
[Wendy:] Absolutely nothing sir.... Yes Stew
[Rudy:] Look for that bit.
[Wendy:] that'll do, for the only one that'll do me any good.
[Rudy:] See what
[Wendy:] ay?
[Rudy:] flavour.
[Wendy:] Twenty.
[Joy:] Twenty nine.
[Penny:] Twenty one for two.
[Rudy:] Twenty one.
[Joy:] Four.
[Rudy:] Four.
[Penny:] Ten
[Wendy:] [cough]
[Rudy:] Noisy!
[Wendy:] Oh dear!
[Rudy:] Eighteen.
[Penny:] [cough]... [whispering] God I do []!... Eighteen.... Twenty three.
[Joy:] Twenty four.
[Wendy:] Twenty five for two.
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Penny:] One for two... ooh that's a thirty eight
[Joy:] Barely there.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] Sixty two []?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] No, no []!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Ten []!
[Penny:] And twenty for two.
[Joy:] Twenty two.
[Wendy:] Twenty five for one.
[Penny:] One.
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six, and two's eight.... That's a.
[Penny:] Nearly a flush there Joy.
[Joy:] Yep.
[Wendy:] One, two, three, four... that's the way.
[Joy:] Yeah very lucky.
[Wendy:] Wer
[Joy:] And four.
[Wendy:] If I'd... If I hadn't of gone, I'd of had nothing.
[Penny:] Fifteen two,fif
[Joy:] Fif
[Wendy:] four and three is five... that's alright for two isn't it?
[Joy:] Seven... Seven.
[Penny:] Fifteen two, fifteen four
[Joy:] Five, six, seven.
[Penny:] Oh, five, six, seven, yeah.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Penny:] Well I knew that!
[Joy:] Shan't tell you again!
[Wendy:] You'll.
[Joy:] That's seven P we could of had!
[Wendy:] Ooh!
[Penny:] Oh no you wouldn't, you wouldn't have the cheek to
[Joy:] Two.
[Penny:] , let me tell you!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Two pairs, had bloody eight of those didn't we?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] We leave him standing []!
[Penny:] Very harassing day today chaps.
[Rudy:] Have you?
[Penny:] Yeah, harassing.
[Rudy:] We haven't.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]... Got to Val's this afternoon, first of all he said... I got a hor, horse running at quarter to three... red, red hot tip and... John had put two hundred on it to win, and she put six hundred on it to win!
[Wendy:] What?
[Penny:] And... they listened on the telephone... from Nottingham... didn't even mention it!
[Joy:] What they get...
[Penny:] ... [LAUGHTER] didn't even mention it []! Eight hundred quid just like that, down the drain!
[Rudy:] We... we went racing Saturday. Penny went in and had a twenty to one... as soon as she got there she had a twenty to one winner!... Me and Pam bet the same horse and didn't know, and we had a ten to one winner!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Yeah?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] I remember that, yeah []!
[Rudy:] Yeah we did have a good afternoon. Had the old.
[Penny:] Well this is a tip straight from the trainer [LAUGHTER] apparently []!
[Joy:] Oh!
[Penny:] Well... so much for that trainer!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Mm.
[Wendy:] Oh well, we'll do this one then.... Eight.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Wendy:] Twenty eight for two.
[Rudy:] Thirty one.
[Penny:] [sighing] Ha []!
[Wendy:] Seven.
[Rudy:] Ten.
[Penny:] Twenty seven.
[Wendy:] Twenty nine.
[Joy:] Two.
[Penny:] What a stupid card to lay!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] [].
[Wendy:] Twe, twenty nine.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Seventeen [].
[Rudy:] Eight
[Joy:] Ten.
[Rudy:] Eighteen.
[Joy:] Eighteen... oh, I can't lay that!... I thought that was
[Wendy:] Course you can.
[Joy:] fifteen.... Twenty three.
[Penny:] Twenty eight for two.
[Rudy:] Oh!
[Joy:] Thirty one.
[Rudy:] Oh that's alright, she gave it back!
[Penny:] Did she?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] To be honest, I missed all that!... Five
[Rudy:] Ta... ta.
[Penny:] Go on Derek!
[Rudy:] Three... only me
[Penny:] Oh mm.
[Rudy:] Three holes and a go.... You just had the wrong card there didn't you Stewart?
[Penny:] Sunk!
[Rudy:] Mm?
[Penny:] Go for another call.
[Wendy:] Er fifteen two... fifteen four, fifteen six.
[Rudy:] I had a six here.
[Joy:] Fifty two,.
[Wendy:] That's fifteen... six, and three's nine.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Ooh good one!
[Wendy:] Alright.
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four... five, six, seven
[Wendy:] Ah!
[Joy:] Two.
[Wendy:] Two.
[Joy:] Oh!
[Wendy:] That's more than a... Queens.
[Joy:] I know.... We shall still whip you!
[Penny:] Can't be beautiful and ah!
[Wendy:] Lucky... no.... Dozen in front.
[Rudy:] Yeah, but what
[Joy:] Nice!
[Rudy:] about beautiful, lucky and rich?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]... Do we call in twenty of them.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... No.
[Penny:] No, I just thought it was a last one that you... missed out on, I don't know.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's that one as well... so
[Wendy:] Gonna be bloody rich in a minute!... Ooh!
[Penny:] Now that's wrong!
[Rudy:] Thank you!
[Joy:] No, that's right.
[Rudy:] That's right.
[Penny:] What was that?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] What []?
[Wendy:] can't claim
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] yeah []!
[Penny:] Tongue tied, yeah!... [singing] Mm mm mm mm mm mm [].
[Joy:] [singing] Money, money, money []!
[Rudy:] That one.... Better be the right one, instead of
[Joy:] Nine.
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!
[Joy:] Ten
[Rudy:] Oh!
[Joy:] Suppose so.
[Wendy:] No good at all!
[Rudy:] Eight.
[Penny:] Eight.
[Joy:] Eight.
[Penny:] Right chaps... eighteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty seven.
[Wendy:] Mm... good old boy!
[Joy:] Six.
[Wendy:] [sighing] Ha []!
[Penny:] Sixteen.
[Rudy:] Seventeen.
[Wendy:] [sighing] Oh []!
[Penny:] Come on Derek,.
[Wendy:] Seventeen, hang on!... Seventeen.
[Penny:] Put your glass down and play properly!
[Wendy:] Twenty seven.
[Rudy:] Nope!
[Penny:] Twenty seven.
[Rudy:] Eight... twenty eight.
[Penny:] No.
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!... Six.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Penny:] Sixteen.
[Wendy:] Twenty one.
[Joy:] Twenty
[Wendy:] Sorry!
[Joy:] six for two.
[Wendy:] No, no, woh, woh!
[Rudy:] Hang on!... Twenty six for [LAUGHTER] two, and five's six []... per eight.
[Wendy:] Right... cos I got my
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Cor bloody hell []!
[Joy:] So excited! There's twenty two.
[Penny:] Fifteen, [LAUGHTER] fifteen three []!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] I thought oh I've got it []!
[Joy:] You aren't gonna get them!... Well you'll never get
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Is it my go? Er
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] It's erm... Stewart's
[Wendy:] Who's turn?
[Joy:] He's still gloating!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Ooh bloody hell!
[Joy:] Bloody hell!...
[Wendy:] Two, four, six... Is that twelve, fourteen is it?
[Joy:] Sixteen.
[Penny:] Sixteen.
[Wendy:] Is it?
[Penny:] Mm.
[Wendy:] Ooh bloody hell!
[Penny:] Yes, two, four, six, two, four, six is twelve, fourteen, sixteen,.
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six, two's eight.
[Penny:] That's... more than enough!
[Wendy:] Er... fifteen two
[Joy:] We're still with you.
[Wendy:] fifteen four... fifteen six... and three's nine innit?
[Rudy:] Yep, alright.
[Penny:] Go on boy, get round that corner!... Go on!
[Rudy:] Clear, clear the glass up.
[Joy:] Clear the glass up.
[Wendy:] That looks like a two.
[Penny:] Ha!
[Rudy:] Two for twe, twenty twos.
[Wendy:] There you are.
[Penny:] I didn't see them.
[Wendy:] One hole behind me.
[Joy:] You don't need to.
[Rudy:] No, you're ain't, you're bloody one in front!
[Wendy:] I'm behind, we're!
[Rudy:] How can you be... one hole behind when I'm?
[Wendy:] Well I tend to move in the same fleet.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] I dunno.
[Rudy:] Gotta cover the.
[Joy:] Oh we make a bodge of!
[Wendy:] I bet you.
[Rudy:] We could make bodge if
[Wendy:] I'm only scoring like, opponents wrong score... we're in the wrong lane.
[Joy:] You're well in front...
[Penny:] Yeah see the trouble is we don't seem to
[Wendy:] Oh yeah.
[Penny:] maintain the... momentum.
[Joy:] You're doing alright, you're doing fine, you needn't rush it.
[Wendy:] Oh shut up!
[Joy:] At all. [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Don't hurry!
[Joy:] No... take your time.
[Penny:] Right,
[Wendy:] Please concentrate, think what you're doing!... We'll let them talk you out of it Stewart!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Like they do me at home!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] No I do
[Penny:] Right.
[Joy:] Strategy.
[Penny:] Who's Box?
[Wendy:] Well I don't want one now!
[Joy:] Don't really like it!
[Wendy:] What?
[Joy:] Don't really like
[Rudy:] Don't really like it, see, like I do.
[Wendy:] What's that?
[Rudy:] I like it.
[Wendy:] Ohhh
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Wendy:] Christ!... Put one of them in the box.
[Joy:] Did you?
[Wendy:] With your two sevens. [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] You to go Stewart.
[Penny:] Mm.
[Joy:] Make a name for yourself!
[Penny:] Three.
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Penny:] Go on Derek, get in there!
[Wendy:] No... twelve.
[Joy:] Oh!
[Wendy:] Twenty two.
[Joy:] Mm.
[Wendy:] Well we know she's got a nine again.
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Or a six.
[Rudy:] got.... Fifteen.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Wendy:] Twenty six for two.
[Joy:] Twenty eight.
[Wendy:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] Oh what did I have?
[Penny:] Hang about!
[Joy:] Can you go?
[Penny:] No.
[Joy:] Thirty for two.
[Wendy:] Oh!
[Penny:] Hang about!... thirty for
[Wendy:] Ohh!
[Penny:] three.
[Rudy:] I nearly had it again!
[Joy:] Eight?
[Penny:] Eight.
[Wendy:] een.
[Rudy:] Twenty four.
[Joy:] Score.
[Penny:] Well done!
[Wendy:] What's my partner got?
[Penny:] Oh, not a lot.
[Rudy:] Have you?
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] I thought you'd have your []!
[Rudy:] How many you got Stewart?
[Penny:] Not a lot!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] I dunno, I haven't even bothered to look!... Fifteen two, fifteen four, pair is six
[Rudy:] That's enough.
[Penny:] that's it.... Six do it.
[Rudy:] Fifty four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, fourteen.... Ooh!... That's good!
[Joy:] Fourteen.
[Penny:] Er... thirty two, thirty four, thirty six.
[Rudy:] Ooh you've got enough.
[Penny:] Ah, well that second time that... must of been.
[Joy:] So we're erm
[Rudy:] Is it second time round?
[Joy:] Twelve P out.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] No.
[Rudy:] Have we?
[Penny:] ... oh that was quick!
[Rudy:] No.
[Joy:] Six P.
[Rudy:] have we been round?
[Joy:] Yes.
[Wendy:] Yes, yeah, I remember it now distinctly!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [shouting] You liar []!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] You don't know your head from your arse!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] What else?
[Penny:] No, had your drink.
[Rudy:] Just hope you remember this?
[Penny:] Let me get you a glass.
[Joy:] No, it's nice that.
[Rudy:] No I might take it home, I like a six if you're [LAUGHTER] gonna get
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!
[Rudy:] a glass []! [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] We all know about that Stewart... we did better without the box.
[Penny:] I don't care if we lose all night now, as long as she bleeding!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Ooh I'll tell you what that's better than that.
[Penny:] That's better than that?
[Rudy:] Yeah I can tell.
[Wendy:] Same stuff.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] What that Dutch lager is?
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Wendy:] Cor that strong!
[Rudy:] That tastes much better than that one!
[Wendy:] That was only two pound something for four! I thought it was worth it, two thirty nine. Thursday night.
[Rudy:] That other one's chronic!... Heineken.
[Wendy:] Oh right
[Penny:] I never drink Heineken you see Derek
[Rudy:] If I buy
[Penny:] drinks it so I... bought it for him.... Your box is it my girl?
[Joy:] Mm.
[Wendy:] Let's see
[Joy:] Mine
[Wendy:] you.
[Joy:] Mine.
[Rudy:] Yep.
[Penny:] Oh right!
[Wendy:] Good old girl!... What have you got in there then?
[Joy:] Dunno... I'll tell you in a moment
[Penny:] Everytime it's your box isn't it? You always kick off!
[Rudy:] Cos we're winning!
[Joy:] It's only them two cutting.
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!... And now for the other one.
[Penny:] Right then!
[Joy:] Right then,
[Penny:] So we will
[Joy:] .
[Penny:] see what we can sort out amongst this lot.... There we are, you'll still about nine
[Joy:] Eighteen for two.
[Penny:] Yeah, I said you would!... Twenty seven for six.
[Wendy:] Twenty seven for six.
[Penny:] Ha ha ha ha!
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Rudy:] Thirty.
[Penny:] Ha!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] No [].
[Penny:] No.
[Joy:] There are look, we gotta another
[Penny:] Haa!
[Joy:] now!
[Penny:] Oh I like it!
[Joy:] Right what are gonna lay now?
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Ah... a four [].... You haven't got a one.
[Rudy:] No!
[Penny:] Oh!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Come on Derek to help us here!... Derek!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] I like it!
[Joy:] Ah!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] I love it!... Where did I go?
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Fifteen.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Did he score off that?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Yeah, you cheeky little devil!... Fifteen.
[Joy:] Mm.
[Penny:] I gotta watch this.
[Wendy:] You want a five.
[Penny:] Eighteen for two.
[Joy:] Eighteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty and eight.... Twenty and eight.
[Wendy:] No.
[Rudy:] Thirty.
[Joy:] No.
[Penny:] I think we came off best [LAUGHTER] at the end []!
[Rudy:] Run your deuce?
[Penny:] Are there any more?
[Joy:] Have you?... Yeah.
[Wendy:] Five.
[Rudy:] Eleven.
[Penny:] Come on Derek seven
[Wendy:] No, ooooh!
[Joy:] Mm, good!
[Rudy:] No taunting!... Eighteen for three.
[Wendy:] Eleven, eighteen for three.
[Rudy:] .... And again Derek.
[Wendy:] Let me have one.
[Rudy:] Just take one.
[Wendy:] That'll do... ha... is som, have we pegged all that lot between us?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Mm, we did!
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Penny:] Yep.... Oh it's me first and I haven't even looked at it, I was so excited!... [LAUGHTER] Fifteen two, fifteen five
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] I hope you never win the pools
[Joy:] So do I!
[Rudy:] about.
[Penny:] I won't because I don't do them []!
[Rudy:] Ha!
[Penny:] Fifteen two, and three is five.
[Wendy:] Four.
[Rudy:] Fifteen two, and two's four.
[Penny:] Oh dear!
[Wendy:] Er... two I think.
[Penny:] Oh that was very peggy little round though wasn't it?... Goodness me!
[Joy:] Dozen.
[Wendy:] It's got
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] []!
[Wendy:] Pam's doing alright, she keeps getting all
[Rudy:] Doing a duck She keeps getting two.
[Joy:] Just got to.
[Penny:] Alright!
[Joy:] Come on!
[Rudy:] Come on!
[Penny:] ay, you don't get time to put your finger on it before she's after it!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Right.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Bloody hell the whole lot's getting a hammering!... [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Yeah, I don't think Pam's catering enough, cos she didn't get enough for us.
[Rudy:] She did.
[Penny:] I had a look in the cupboards, and they've all gone!
[Joy:] Don't be so greedy!
[Wendy:] She did alright....... We shall have to get out marked ones Stewart.
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] You'd never get a match.
[Wendy:] Still bloody woo, still lose!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Mm.
[Penny:] [sighing] Ha []!... Yes well... less said the better!
[Rudy:] I've got a feeling that's wrong, cos I've changed
[Wendy:] There's one in that box.
[Rudy:] my mind.... I'm putting a three in, so you better put a two in.
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] Help out the nation's you better put a two.
[Penny:] Don't usually ever lead in.
[Wendy:] Mm.
[Rudy:] What have I
[Wendy:] I'll put all them in, I better put my queen in.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Well that's no good!
[Rudy:] Ahh, I had a queen in it as well,we, did you?
[Wendy:] Yeah, well you'll have to wait and see won't you!
[Joy:] Ah, what's that fifteen?
[Wendy:] Two.
[Joy:] Eighteen.
[Wendy:] Oh sorry, just a minute they're playing eighteen.
[Joy:] Eighteen.
[Penny:] Eighteen... I see... twenty eight.
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Penny:] Come on Derek!
[Joy:] No.
[Wendy:] No.
[Penny:] Alright.
[Rudy:] Nothing!
[Penny:] Er ah er... eight.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Wendy:] Ha!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Twe, twenty [] four for three.
[Joy:] Twenty four for three.
[Rudy:] Thirty for four... and again.
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] Five.
[Penny:] Is that a run again?
[Rudy:] Yeah.... Six seventy
[Penny:] So
[Rudy:] nine.
[Joy:] Er... twelve.
[Wendy:] No I can't... what do you mean twelve?
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah I know []!
[Wendy:] Relax, it's twelve!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Fifty two, twenty two.
[Penny:] Twenty four.
[Rudy:] Twenty nine.
[Joy:] No.
[Wendy:] No, she's still following me!
[Penny:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] And If I'd have been ninety six
[Rudy:] I've only got... look... two, two!
[Penny:] That's more than enough!
[Wendy:] More than enough my girl, that's a, more than I've got.... Well nearly!
[Penny:] Er... five.
[Joy:] Ten.
[Penny:] Five... Pam's still on.
[Wendy:] Ooh just a minute nobody's got the six!
[Rudy:] Yeah, I should think so.
[Penny:] Who would lose it?... Er, what's please?
[Wendy:] Er fa, the six you say?
[Joy:] Six yeah, yep.... Look at that
[Penny:] Ohhh!
[Joy:] six of queens!... Someone put the bloody five up!
[Wendy:] One, two, three, four, five, six.
[Joy:] Bad enough being a queen up!
[Wendy:] Ahhh, enjoyed that one!
[Joy:] Isn't it!
[Rudy:] Now that's a lie!
[Penny:] Most ladies are thick!... How're we doing Derek? We should
[Wendy:] We're
[Penny:] give our usual
[Wendy:] two behind.
[Penny:] usual
[Joy:] Two behind.
[Penny:] position won't we old boy?
[Wendy:] Mm, putting
[Joy:] No.
[Wendy:] it on.
[Joy:] sunshine. Cut that pack you!
[Penny:] Is is under way next time?
[Wendy:] No, we're on
[Joy:] No.
[Wendy:] the first time round.
[Rudy:] We said we're going to
[Joy:] Excuse me!
[Penny:] Alright.... We only chose that one.
[Joy:] Only two.
[Penny:] And me, that's too many!.
[Wendy:] First rate!
[Penny:] .
[Wendy:] Telling me off for
[Joy:] Two P each.
[Wendy:] Telling me
[Joy:] Right.
[Wendy:] Telling me off at work, I ain't got a dozen yet. I ain't started yet!
[Joy:] Oh oh dear!
[Penny:] Right.... Right okay.
[Wendy:] Mm.
[Joy:] Yes, okay, it's about time you started.
[Penny:] Put on, put on the throttle Derek.
[Joy:] Sit on the throttle?
[Rudy:] Like a milk float.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I can do sixteen mile an hour now, instead of eight.
[Penny:] Six, bloody!
[Joy:] Ah, [LAUGHTER] God []!... No wonder you got no milk when you get the other end! [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Ooh sorry! Woh wait a minute!
[Penny:] End up going down old
[Rudy:] Come on!
[Penny:] M twenty five, sixty miles an hour.
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!... Lot of help you've been!
[Rudy:] Aren't I lovely?
[Wendy:] Oh yes you could, where's my... another two.... Er, oh God, eight!
[Joy:] Makes me fifteen.
[Rudy:] Eight, twelve.
[Penny:] Did you notice I did refrain from discussing my hands and I just get on with the game! Twelve, fifteen
[Joy:] Cor!
[Penny:] for two.... Two.
[Rudy:] Sevente, seventeen for three.
[Penny:] Derek, two Derek... Derek...
[Joy:] Twenty two or up.
[Penny:] Right, you sure?
[Rudy:] Yes.
[Penny:] About right for
[Wendy:] Seventeen
[Penny:] seventeen for three Derek.
[Wendy:] Seventeen.
[Rudy:] We'll buy this one Derek,
[Wendy:] Yeah, go on!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] It were a five at the other end Derek []!
[Wendy:] Yeah I already got one.... Seventeen
[Penny:] Oh.
[Wendy:] I wanna go... far away, twenty seven.
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Penny:] Twenty seven?
[Wendy:] Yep.
[Penny:] Twenty nine.... No.
[Rudy:] Thirty.
[Joy:] Nope.
[Penny:] Thirty one for three, mm.
[Rudy:] Four!
[Joy:] Thirty one.
[Penny:] No, four sorry!
[Wendy:] Four, yeah.
[Penny:] Well I was... I was
[Rudy:] Three.
[Penny:] trying to give you a chance.
[Wendy:] Twelve.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Don't you take []... any chances with us!... Twenty one for two.... Can't you go?
[Penny:] Yes... I'm just pulling
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Oh []!
[Penny:] a funny face!
[Rudy:] Oh that's a shame!
[Joy:] No, I can't go.
[Penny:] Twenty six... ooh I've done them once!
[Joy:] But can you go again?
[Penny:] No.
[Joy:] Oh I can, just put that back!
[Penny:] Sorry!
[Joy:] Mine's a six.
[Rudy:] Ah, that's a four!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] I'd of been jumping up and down by the time I got to the []
[Joy:] Two.
[Wendy:] Two.
[Rudy:] What are we on?
[Joy:] Sixteen... twenty two for three odds.
[Wendy:] Oh God they've got another one!
[Penny:] They picked up a few there Derek.
[Wendy:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] I shall pick up a lot more in a minute.
[Penny:] Oh shut up threatening!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] I've had that four again!
[Joy:] I got nine.
[Penny:] Haven't got a lot!... Three, six
[Rudy:] Two's eight.
[Penny:] eight.
[Joy:] Aha.
[Penny:] Mm, that's all Derek, eight.
[Rudy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten... two's twelve, and one's a little thirteen.
[Penny:] Check it will you Derek.
[Wendy:] [whispering].
[Rudy:] You're no need t, to check that!... Fifteen two, three, four, five... one, two, three.
[Wendy:] Didn't keep it
[Penny:] No.
[Wendy:] that time mate.... Just about.
[Rudy:] Tell you, while your gobbing... we get going!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] We won't feel cocky!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] You'll be auctioning that bottle by the end of the night!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah you will []!
[Rudy:] The way we're playing.
[Wendy:] I ain't started yet Stewart, [LAUGHTER] alright, don't just
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] keep getting their
[Rudy:] Mind you he hasn't had a very good partner though!
[Wendy:] Ah dear!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] He keeps going off into cloud cuckoo land!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] He gets excited when he gets two!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Shut up []!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Shut up []!... Five of clubs have been laid.
[Joy:] Oh yeah... oh oh!
[Rudy:] The wonderful there is.
[Joy:] Five of clubs.
[Rudy:] Six of diamonds.
[Penny:] It's the six of diamonds.
[Rudy:] Oh.
[Penny:] And
[Rudy:] Ten will do.
[Penny:] Ten.
[Wendy:] Eighteen.
[Joy:] [whispering] Eighteen [].
[Penny:] That's stopped her in her tracks didn't it?
[Joy:] It is.... Twenty four.
[Wendy:] Ooh naughty!
[Penny:] Derek!
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Thirty one for two.
[Wendy:] There's one to four in the middle there.
[Joy:] Thirty one for two.
[Penny:] No, two fives I mean.
[Rudy:] Two fives.
[Wendy:] What've you got, eighteen?
[Rudy:] Twenty four.
[Joy:] Twenty four.
[Wendy:] Twenty four, that's alright.
[Rudy:] Yeah you
[Joy:] You want a seven to score
[Rudy:] want a seven.
[Joy:] to hit you.
[Wendy:] No, I ain't gonna waste
[Rudy:] Go in
[Wendy:] them.
[Rudy:] cos I've got them all in! Just try to bluff
[Wendy:] Twenty four.
[Rudy:] just tr [LAUGHTER] [].
[Wendy:] Yeah I know, that's what I'm worried about.
[Joy:] Twenty four?
[Wendy:] Twenty nine.
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Rudy:] Nope.
[Penny:] Nine.
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Rudy:] Good
[Penny:] That's it.
[Wendy:] Two twenty two.
[Joy:] Twenty seven.
[Rudy:] Thirty.
[Penny:] No.
[Wendy:] Ten.
[Joy:] Twenty.
[Penny:] Thirty.
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] No.
[Joy:] And that one.
[Rudy:] Seven.
[Penny:] Bluff.
[Rudy:] You want two holes down, you might get two holes now then.
[Penny:] Twenty one... one at the bottom.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah, adjust it.... Is this four ours?... Four.
[Wendy:] Bloody hell, I suppose I'll have to stay behind Stewart!
[Rudy:] Oh he's got a few!
[Joy:] Oh!
[Penny:] I've got three, six, eight, ten, that's all.
[Wendy:] Ten?
[Rudy:] Ten tens, it's not bad.
[Joy:] I know, I've got fifteen two, fifteen four, two is six, two's eight.
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Yeah
[Wendy:] You say
[Joy:] Yeah
[Wendy:] er, I've got fifteen two, fifteen four, fifteen six, and three is nine.
[Rudy:] Nice one!
[Penny:] Clever!... Bung them on Derek quick!... Now that box can save us... we could... look a bit happier.
[Wendy:] I don't think they'll be much in here.
[Joy:] Here are take one for his out.... Two's out.
[Rudy:] Two... three.
[Wendy:] A right.
[Penny:] Not very good Derek?
[Wendy:] Mm?
[Rudy:] No!
[Penny:] No, no, no, we get, they could do a couple of duff hands and we could do
[Wendy:] We could get a couple of dozen now, I ain't had a dozen yet!... I
[Joy:] Go!
[Wendy:] I ain't starting yet, oh oh that one gets out.
[Penny:] Quite a few dozen.
[Joy:] Oh well don't forget he goes bed at half past four!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Half past what?
[Joy:] Half past four.
[Wendy:] Half past four.
[Penny:] Can you try and get the majority
[Rudy:] Oh ma!
[Penny:] of my cards face down?
[Joy:] That was good.
[Penny:] Mm... ooh!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Who's, who's, who's, who's hand is it?
[Joy:] Mine.... Fill it up please?
[Rudy:] Your hand, you got the
[Joy:] You know that lot
[Rudy:] hand.
[Joy:] Well I've got it.
[Rudy:] Yeah I'm ready.... Oh my God!
[Wendy:] Yeah, and me, I've got a
[Joy:] Well their not
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] so bad!
[Rudy:] There's yours.
[Joy:] Look
[Penny:] Who's box yours?
[Joy:] Mine.
[Penny:] There's a duff card for the box.
[Wendy:] I don't know what to do
[Penny:] Erm
[Wendy:] here!
[Penny:] It's duff.
[Joy:] No.
[Penny:] Cor!
[Joy:] I'll ta, just take it out cos he's... not put it.
[Wendy:] Ah sod it, I'll leave mine.
[Rudy:] Strange!
[Penny:] That's no good!
[Wendy:] Ooh that's better!
[Penny:] That should
[Rudy:] Shut up!
[Penny:] stop me a little bit.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Oh []!
[Penny:] Only a little bit.
[Wendy:] Oh, very good Stewart!
[Penny:] There's been, everyone has had seven cards and that's... not one of them.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... It suits me a treat!... Go on then.
[Penny:] Who me?
[Joy:] You
[Wendy:] Yep.
[Joy:] You!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Now... let me concentrate!... Right
[Joy:] Nine -teen.
[Penny:] [whispering] Gosh,
[Wendy:] Nineteen.
[Penny:] [].
[Wendy:] I wonder what he's got?
[Rudy:] Not a lot!
[Wendy:] Twenty.
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Rudy:] Ooh ah!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... Thinks he's on the wrong!
[Rudy:] No!
[Wendy:] Eight.
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Joy:] Aha.
[Penny:] Twelve.
[Wendy:] Nineteen.
[Joy:] Twenty three.
[Wendy:] Twenty seven for two.
[Joy:] No... ooh I'm glad I had that one!... Twenty eight... no, twenty nine, thirty. [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Ten.
[Joy:] Sixteen.
[Penny:] Twenty two... for two.
[Rudy:] Did you put that one on of mine?
[Joy:] Have you got it?
[Wendy:] No, I'm out.
[Joy:] Oh, that's nice! Twenty eight for six.
[Penny:] One.
[Rudy:] Ohhh!
[Joy:] One... Does he go one for you.
[Rudy:] Oh that were a shame weren't it?
[speaker002:] ugh
[Joy:] What's it?
[Penny:] Three.
[Wendy:] Lo,lo, look, any card amongst a, that lot
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Rudy:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] Eight.
[Penny:] One card might have been away.
[Rudy:] Yeah, you.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] What have you got?... Eight?
[Rudy:] Eight... yep.
[Penny:] Don't worry the Kentucky, as long as it's
[Rudy:] Takes a bit.
[Penny:] still labelled.
[Joy:] Si
[Wendy:] Good old boy!
[Joy:] Four.
[Wendy:] Six
[Rudy:] teen.
[Wendy:] Three, three.
[Rudy:] Three.
[Joy:] Twenty eight.
[Rudy:] Done, and one for that.
[Joy:] One for that.
[Rudy:] Mm, one for that.
[Penny:] Yeah.... Oh it's me again.
[Rudy:] Ain't got a lot there!
[Penny:] I think I haven't got a lot there no, that's not a lot.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Fifteen
[Penny:] Two two.
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four.
[Wendy:] Ooh ah! Ooh ah! Ooh ah!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] You ain't got a lot there either!
[Wendy:] Fifteen... two.... Bloody hell!... Three's five.
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] Pam's doing alright!
[Penny:] I'd rather
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] be in Pam's team.
[Rudy:] Since it's been in nines.
[Penny:] Not in
[Joy:] Aha.
[Penny:] Not in the
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] See how much you want []!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Sweet and lucky in love.
[Rudy:] Lucky in love.
[Joy:] Did well yes.
[Rudy:] Well you see the thing is we're supposed
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] to do these at home... I said well it had been... twenty hours or nothing cos me and my old man don't speak! I said to Pam... can we take over your house and do some taping for me? She said, well you'll get a hu, a hu [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Me and gotta beat her []!
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] If you send it over Derek's you wouldn't get much of that either!
[Wendy:] No, cos I'd have her in there!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] She knew a lot of telly.... Neighbours
[Joy:] Oh!
[Wendy:] and bloody Coronation Street and all that crap!
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Rudy:] Ooh!
[Wendy:] You'd hear all that!
[Penny:] And don't say crap, that's a very good programme!
[Joy:] What is?
[Penny:] Coronation
[Wendy:] Coronation
[Penny:] Str
[Joy:] Oh what a load of dip!
[Penny:] I lo, I've recorded whatever's on tonight, is it Eastenders?... K Y T V I've got on tonight... recorded that.
[Wendy:] S H I T more like!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] K Y T V is very good, K Y T V.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Hang on []!... K Y T V, what's that?
[Joy:] I didn't think you'd be a Coronation Street addict.
[Rudy:] No, I wouldn't!
[Penny:] The best people are.... Princess Anne.
[Rudy:] Well it's the biggest load of rubbish, people don't really live
[Penny:] No, very good acting.
[Rudy:] like that!
[Joy:] Mhm.
[Penny:] No one said they did!
[Rudy:] Well it isn't even good acting!
[Joy:] That's enough!
[Penny:] It is, very good.
[Joy:] Erm, when we were on the
[Rudy:] [shouting] Oh Ben!... Let's give it out of!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] What's the name of them... all the Emmerdale
[Penny:] Very good acting.
[Rudy:] I often have dinner with... Barbara Knott.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] A day up in that Manchester Studio.
[Penny:] She's trying to claim personal
[Rudy:] No, I weren't, I weren't there.
[Penny:] Eight... how's that chaps?
[Rudy:] Bloody disgusting! Yeah, your
[Joy:] I
[Rudy:] last dozen in the bin.
[Joy:] Oh my God!
[Rudy:] Ten, fifteen, twenty.
[Penny:] Seventeen, twenty seven chaps.
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Penny:] Nope.
[Joy:] Nope.
[Penny:] One shuffle.
[Wendy:] Ooh bloody hell!... Look at all them!
[Rudy:] The gone out.
[Joy:] Ten.
[Rudy:] I'm not playing
[Wendy:] Ooh!
[Rudy:] any more.
[Wendy:] Sixteen.
[Joy:] Twenty six.
[Penny:] Erm... five for six.
[Wendy:] Yeah, I'll do it with that one then.
[Rudy:] What's the matter with you?... Got verbal diarrhoea? Verbal
[Wendy:] Two.
[Joy:] diarrhoea, yeah!
[Wendy:] Ooh Christ!
[Joy:] Two.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Now we've got him.
[Wendy:] Six
[Joy:] teen.
[Rudy:] Thirty.
[Penny:] Twenty.
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] I've gone.
[Penny:] Twenty three.
[Rudy:] Nope.... Ooh!
[Penny:] Go on, and another one Derek!
[Joy:] And a one for that.
[Wendy:] That were one each weren't it?
[Rudy:] Yeah one each, cos erm
[Wendy:] I was gonna say, we had that one last time. Stewart?
[Penny:] I haven't even
[Joy:] Four.
[Penny:] looked at my hand!
[Wendy:] Er
[Penny:] What a lousy turn up!
[Rudy:] Yeah, terrible!
[Wendy:] What have I got here!... Fifteen two
[Joy:] Fifteen four
[Wendy:] Fifteen four
[Joy:] Four's eight.
[Penny:] Four's eight, yeah.
[Joy:] Two.... I know, I know!
[Wendy:] Ooh ho!
[Penny:] Five, six, seven.
[Wendy:] What?
[Joy:] Ooh look I can swa
[Wendy:] Cor I've got a headache!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] In your head!
[Penny:] Have you all done? Er, all I've got is fifteen
[Joy:] Four
[Penny:] two
[Joy:] he's got.
[Penny:] four,
[Joy:] Four in his hand.
[Penny:] fifteen four.
[Rudy:] He's just excited, you wanna see him when he got twenty four in his hand!... He'll never be able to count them!
[Penny:] Seven
[Wendy:] er seven... eight
[Joy:] Yeah, twenty four!
[Wendy:] That's four.
[Penny:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Twenty four?
[Joy:] It was.... Seven, eight and
[Penny:] Now you be careful was
[Joy:] half a dozen there, and there's a dozen
[Wendy:] Yep.
[Joy:] there... that is
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!... I can't count these one here!... Three... five
[Rudy:] That's four P.
[Wendy:] ten, fifteen, twenty three, it's that
[Penny:] That's right.
[Wendy:] before er
[Rudy:] No it's not
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] it's your box!
[Wendy:] Four, one
[Rudy:] Cos you had twenty four, which is two twelves.
[Penny:] Oh I see, thank you very much.
[Joy:] Do you mean he's earnt a pay?... You want
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Joy:] your back pay?
[Penny:] Yep.
[Rudy:] No I'm kidding him!
[Penny:] Are you absolutely sure you got it right?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] When you said eights and yo er... and you said and I, I put an eight in so
[Rudy:] Oh you're getting another one!
[Penny:] Cor, what a hand ay!... I couldn't
[Wendy:] Twenty four, that's nearly his top hand innit?
[Rudy:] Twenty nine's the top hand.
[Wendy:] Is it.
[Joy:] Oh look there's pop sockless clerk!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Pop socks... what?
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Pop sockless clerk []!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Oh stop it!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Have we finished all this grub now?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] They gotta be finished.... Do you want these three nuts?
[Joy:] Have you ever heard that one
[Penny:] Yeah, I'll have a nut.
[Joy:] before?
[Penny:] And the salt.... No I haven't.
[Joy:] It's not good for you.
[Rudy:] Oh I don't believe this!
[Joy:] Just put some ooh ah!
[Wendy:] Sit down!
[Joy:] That's it.
[Wendy:] Good lad Ben!
[Penny:] Oh God!
[Rudy:] I don't believe these stupid hands!... It's my box this [LAUGHTER] time []!
[Joy:] Yeah well you won't.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] Never know, it might become a little trade []!
[Rudy:] Come on, sit down then!
[Penny:] Ah right.
[Wendy:] Right.
[Penny:] Oh dear this is looking a bit tricky!
[Wendy:] Come on, who's cut is it?
[Rudy:] All tools are wet, round and?
[Penny:] Yep.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Don't ask me what it means, [LAUGHTER] but it
[Rudy:] No!
[Penny:] looks good []!
[Wendy:] So I use a wet stone you see.
[Penny:] We're one up.
[Rudy:] You're cutting!
[Wendy:] if we're gonna... [LAUGHTER] can I have another line, didn't get the right one here []!
[Rudy:] One and eight... it's a queen.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Oh well!... Got these to go on.
[Rudy:] Nine.
[Joy:] Fourteen.... Oh... sorry, sir!
[Penny:] We're, twenty four.
[Rudy:] Twenty and eight.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] No.
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] Twenty eight.
[Penny:] Sorry, twenty eight? Thirty one for two.... Is that what you wanted... was that the right card to put down?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Stop!
[Penny:] I
[Wendy:] Eighteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty and eight.
[Wendy:] Thirty.
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] Sorry, I couldn't quite manage it that time
[Joy:] Ten.
[Wendy:] Nineteen.
[Rudy:] Twenty nine for three... and a go
[Penny:] That was a stupid
[Rudy:] four.
[Penny:] to lay
[Joy:] Got no choice!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] Can't you take them back, just ten []!
[Joy:] Ten, nineteen.
[Wendy:] Ooh it's off this time
[Penny:] Ooh ah!
[Rudy:] Ninety eight.
[Joy:] Ooh yeah
[Rudy:] I can have one for you.
[Joy:] Who's got the box.
[Rudy:] I.
[Joy:] I'll do it.
[Wendy:] Er, six.... I wanted a bloody six or
[Rudy:] Seventeen.
[Wendy:] a seven.
[Joy:] Seventeen.
[Wendy:] Ah shit!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Seventeen [].
[Penny:] No, six pair's eight.
[Wendy:] Ay?... Ooh we still haven't bodged up!
[Joy:] Two.
[Rudy:] Seven, thank you.
[Joy:] Three.
[Rudy:] Tuppence.
[Joy:] Fifteen two... three, four, five... And
[Wendy:] Take the lot, go on
[Joy:] two, three, four, five, that's a good one!
[Penny:] No good staring at it Joy, get it
[Rudy:] Well I looked
[Penny:] get on with the bloody game!
[Rudy:] I thought I'd lost
[Penny:] put your glass in middle!
[Joy:] Now you know it feels!
[Penny:] Deal the hand, come on!...... come on stop hanging about!... Too much talking round here!
[Rudy:] Er, yeah you're right, you're fined
[Penny:] Are we?
[Wendy:] We're still ahead!
[Joy:] Twenty
[Wendy:] About twenty holes.
[Joy:] six
[Rudy:] Twenty two.
[Penny:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] It's nothing!
[Wendy:] No... look my girl, we thrashed you last
[Rudy:] , look my men!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Look my men!
[Joy:] You said that just like a Jersey bean... now look my men!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Ooh ah! Ooh ah! Ooh ah!
[Rudy:] Can't be a! [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Told you Derek, you can't push our luck. [sighing] Ahhh []!
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!
[Rudy:] Oh my giddy aunt!
[Joy:] Do you know I had the
[Wendy:] [cough]
[Joy:] I had the funniest hand.
[Penny:] Just a minute, I'll have that card back.
[Joy:] Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
[Penny:] Can't you do that?... No?
[Wendy:] Yeah, we'll let you.
[Rudy:] Go on!
[Wendy:] What was it?
[Rudy:] Oh.
[Joy:] Is that the one?
[Penny:] No, it's at the bottom
[Rudy:] Oh, gotta bloody spoil him haven't you?
[Penny:] so I can't now, no.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] Oh Christ [], now he's knows all about the box!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Bloody con artist!... That'll do!
[Rudy:] Well he got you a.
[Penny:] Three's about Derek, three's about!
[Joy:] Ahhh dear!... Three.
[Rudy:] Three.
[Penny:] Erm
[Wendy:] He'd have something to say after sixteen.
[Penny:] No, sorry, three, nine.
[Wendy:] Nine.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Nineteen [].
[Wendy:] Nineteen.
[Penny:] That's exactly what you should of never played!
[Wendy:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] No you shouldn't!
[Joy:] No.
[Penny:] I didn't realise, I thought it was sixteen again.
[Joy:] Twenty
[Rudy:] No.
[Joy:] nine.
[Wendy:] Twenty nine.... No, sorry!
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Penny:] No.
[Joy:] You can get your twos out.
[Wendy:] Thirty one.... [LAUGHTER] We're too good []!
[Penny:] Ten.
[Rudy:] Fifteen.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Penny:] Fifteen.... Oh yes.
[Wendy:] Go on, twenty for two!... Let's go for it mate!
[Joy:] Twenty three.
[Wendy:] Twenty five.
[Rudy:] Seven... no. Twenty nine for three.
[Joy:] Four.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] No [].
[Joy:] Two
[Rudy:] Four
[Joy:] three, four, five.
[Rudy:] No.... And again.
[Joy:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] Yep.
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] They're going into.
[Penny:] How many cards have you got there? You got about sixteen
[Rudy:] Ga, no!
[Penny:] and fives and
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] ten... you haven't got any fives.
[Joy:] Thirteen.... No I haven't.
[Wendy:] Twenty three.
[Rudy:] Twenty nine.
[Joy:] No
[Penny:] Thirty seven for
[Joy:] got one.
[Penny:] six.
[Wendy:] Oh I got one.
[Rudy:] Yeah... we got one.... Right, fifteen two, fifteen four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Rudy:] eight
[Penny:] Yeah, how many dozens have you had this time?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Fifteen
[Joy:] How many?
[Wendy:] two, fifteen four, five, six, seven.
[Joy:] Four.
[Wendy:] Five... six, seven.
[Rudy:] Ooh ooh.
[Wendy:] Er
[Rudy:] Look, look, look!
[Wendy:] One, two three... four, five, six... two's eight.
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Wendy:] One's nine but
[Joy:] No, you ain't having them!
[Rudy:] No, you ain't having it!
[speaker002:] Ha, ha, ha!
[Rudy:] Cheater!
[Wendy:] Hey, you got a box here, there might be something in this.
[Penny:] I don't
[Joy:] Yeah
[Rudy:] Not that I put in!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Sorry []!
[Penny:] You stupid fools!... What was in it, all medals and
[Rudy:] Three, four, five
[Wendy:] Three and four nine and a jack.
[Rudy:] and a king... I put it in.
[Joy:] So it's three, four, nine and a king
[Wendy:] a king
[Joy:] and a jack turned up.
[Penny:] Well that's fifteen two, and a pair's four isn't it?
[Rudy:] Oh easy!... All these are looking nice!
[Penny:] But Derek only we could get bodged with nothing
[Joy:] Ohhh!
[Penny:] in it though!
[Rudy:] Ohhh!
[Joy:] Oh oh!
[Rudy:] Oh ah!
[Penny:] Not much gamesmanship going on
[Rudy:] Ah!
[Penny:] here!
[Joy:] Mm.
[Penny:] Derek, just keep up the pressure, just demonstrate how we... got them by the short and curlies and
[Rudy:] Are we?
[Wendy:] It is there box yeah.... And if
[Rudy:] It's our box.
[Wendy:] right card comes up here, which I don't seem to be getting a turn up! If the right card comes up we
[Penny:] Er
[Wendy:] could have a lot again.
[Rudy:] Well it is
[Joy:] tur,tur
[Rudy:] tur,tur,tur, turning... turning.
[Penny:] I've... not got a very good hand here!
[Joy:] Oh my God!
[Penny:] Who's box is it?
[Joy:] He's trying
[Rudy:] Ours.
[Joy:] to make an excuse!
[Wendy:] It's their box.
[Penny:] In fact it... bloody useless!... I wanna two!
[Rudy:] Jack!... Jack!... Ooh!
[Penny:] Oh Christ, in the bloody box!
[Joy:] King!
[Penny:] I put one of those in the box.
[Joy:] Yeah, I did know... there's one in there, [LAUGHTER] and there's woh oh []!
[Rudy:] I put a five in.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [singing] here we come []!
[Joy:] Twelve and two.
[Rudy:] Ooh! ooh! ooh!
[Penny:] Twelve.
[Wendy:] Oh you're off again are you?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Thirteen.
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Rudy:] No, twelve and nine's, twenty one!
[Joy:] It's fifteen, twenty one!
[Wendy:] Oh sorry, yeah.... Twelve and nine, yeah, twenty one.
[Joy:] Thirty for two.
[Penny:] What a stupid card to lay!
[Wendy:] Sorry!
[Joy:] You did it?... Go!... Go!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] To you.
[Rudy:] It was you started it off!
[Penny:] Ten.
[Joy:] Ten.
[Penny:] I know!
[Rudy:] Eighteen.
[Penny:] Come on Derek!
[Wendy:] Eighteen.
[Penny:] Kill them!
[Wendy:] Twenty two.
[Joy:] Twenty two.
[Wendy:] You ain't got another have you?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Eleven... I'll
[Wendy:] Sorry!
[Rudy:] go that way.
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Wendy:] Thirty seven.
[Penny:] Thirty one for twelve.
[Wendy:] Oh no I've got it!
[Joy:] You ain't?
[Wendy:] I've got the ride!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Twenty seven.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] No I can't go []!
[Joy:] No I can go... thirty for three.
[Rudy:] Three... and a go, cos there's
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] no aces around
[Joy:] I'll have, one.
[Penny:] Why is it thirty for three?
[Joy:] Cos he had four, five and
[Rudy:] Four, five, six.
[Joy:] I laid the three!
[Penny:] Oh, well I never!
[Rudy:] Right, can you do
[Joy:] Yeah you see!
[Wendy:] Er, nine.
[Rudy:] Nine... teen.
[Penny:] Twenty nine for three... go!
[Rudy:] Thirty one.
[Joy:] Thirty two.
[Penny:] Get that three in Derek, quick, before they grab it!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Nine
[Joy:] teen.
[Penny:] Oh what a shame!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] You've spent it, ha!
[Wendy:] It's for one.
[Rudy:] For one Derek, you got one there.
[Wendy:] Was a one was it?...
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Oh was it?... Bloody hell, come on Stewart, we're bloody
[Rudy:] That's right yo... come on Stewart!
[Penny:] I've got nothing here mate!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] In fact, I haven't got anything!
[Joy:] He hasn't got nothing!
[Wendy:] Nothing?
[Joy:] And I've only got two.
[Rudy:] Oh God!
[Wendy:] Well I got six, I wanted a bloody two though!
[Rudy:] Well
[Joy:] Fifteen three
[Rudy:] yeah!
[Joy:] fifteen four, fifteen six, seven, eight, nine
[Penny:] Hang on to your hat now! Hang on to your
[Joy:] They've got it!
[Penny:] hat now!
[Rudy:] Fourteen!
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Ah Christ!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] We nearly got the box!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] I put that five in there!
[Penny:] And I put the king in, and this, and you put the king in
[Joy:] I'm putting the king in!
[Penny:] and forgot!...!
[Joy:] Stewart dear,, no you take wha
[Penny:] That's it look!... There's a grin of across here of these two P's they keep chucking out! I don't wanna play any more, I wanna go home!
[Rudy:] There will be, there will a troop across here!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]... I wanna go home!
[Wendy:] Well it ain't over yet man!
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] But they're way ahead, and we were having a lovely lead
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] just then!
[Joy:] Saturday night. We were only according to me!
[Penny:] Eight.
[Wendy:] About nine holes in front.
[Penny:] Yes but this is the run home!
[Wendy:] I know!
[Rudy:] It could happen!
[Wendy:] We've gotta keep up
[Rudy:] You might stop us pegging!
[Wendy:] You're gonna stop talking to them and use this instead of this!
[Penny:] Alright... I won't speak any more!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]... No talking allowed here! You ain't thinking!
[Rudy:] Don't you?
[Wendy:] You're playing right into their hands, that's why they're beating us!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] He's saying nothing []!
[Wendy:] They play this seven days a week! And why, they don't need to think about it, they can talk you out of it, they only gotta go!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Wah wah wah wah wah wah!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] They've got you mate!
[Joy:] I have... and that one!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Ay!... Ay
[Wendy:] Starts
[Rudy:] up!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] with bloody hands like this... it's difficult []!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Why not have a go at this he says!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Oh dear, that's a shame []!
[Rudy:] I put one of them in the box!... Oh!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Well I never []!
[Rudy:] Two.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] We
[Wendy:] Twelve.
[Joy:] straight in []!... Twenty two.
[Wendy:] Nine.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Four.
[Rudy:] Don't half make for me!
[Wendy:] Four, eight, for two.
[Rudy:] Eighteen.... Twenty four.
[Joy:] Twenty four, twenty eight.
[Wendy:] Yeah... another one.
[Joy:] Ooh look!
[Rudy:] Did you see him
[Joy:] ten
[Rudy:] playing right?... Twenty six.
[Joy:] Twenty six.
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] Nope.
[Penny:] No.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I'm go, I can do it.
[Joy:] Twenty... six.
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Ooh!... picked up two there!
[Joy:] Yeah you picked right up there.
[Rudy:] Four.... Oh shit!... I ain't got very many
[Wendy:] That's what I mean, it's not, I think it's about ooh... ooh, I got fifteen two, fifteen four... five, six, seven.
[Rudy:] Well if you'd have got eight, nine, you'd been in!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] This means we've lost again!
[Rudy:] Yeah.... No, it's alright.
[Joy:] It's a P each.
[Rudy:] Ahhh!
[Penny:] Got a bleeding lunatic hand I've got!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Look what I had, look!... Look!
[Rudy:] Well you had twelve.
[Joy:] Dozen!
[Penny:] I know.
[Joy:] What you got, a pair? [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Two!
[Rudy:] That was nearly a
[Penny:] Well what was it, what was the, what
[Rudy:] Two.
[Penny:] was the turn up?
[Joy:] Two, the same.
[Penny:] Two.... Oh, not much there then.
[Rudy:] I gave
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Rudy:] you that.
[Joy:] Just a P.
[Rudy:] I didn't intend to.
[Penny:] One P?
[Rudy:] Oh big deal! That were hard work for a penny!
[Joy:] It didn't work
[Penny:] No
[Joy:] then?
[Penny:] but pretty exciting!
[Wendy:] You did, we nearly pegged all them.
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] If you peg two more
[Penny:] , the minute I stop talking we started to
[Rudy:] Yeah, well that's right!
[Penny:] and thinking!
[Rudy:] We told you, you always gob too much!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] God, they are rude!
[Rudy:] Good God, they are rude!
[Joy:] Ooh ooh, your lot!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Has he won it?
[Rudy:] We have
[Wendy:] We've got the box.
[Penny:] Ooh!... Christ!
[Rudy:] You had what in holes?
[Joy:] Yeah, well you should of done that five hands ago and then you'd have been seventy five pence down!
[Wendy:] They got three hole! Yeah alright!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] God!
[Joy:] There's no need to hit me, I'm you're friend yo
[Penny:] since I stopped talking.
[Rudy:] Yeah, it's me ain't it?
[Joy:] now?....
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] No I don't []!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh, look at these []!
[Penny:] Your researchers gonna forget!
[Wendy:] Oh sha!
[Penny:] Alright, shut up and... stop talking!
[Rudy:] ... racket!
[Joy:] Mm.
[Rudy:] You could win this... you could win it all back at once.... Ooh you bugger!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]... That's what... that's what's most fun though, the talking [LAUGHTER] innit Stew []?
[Rudy:] He's saying nothing!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] He's saying no []!
[Wendy:] Oh bloody hell!
[Rudy:] Oh I'm ever so pleased!
[Wendy:] isn't owt in there!
[Rudy:] Get out!... Put that back!
[Joy:] Derek's turn.
[Wendy:] Mm.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Oh I don't want this one!
[Rudy:] Yes you do! You never looked!
[Wendy:] No, I don't!
[Joy:] No, I do.
[Rudy:] Ten.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Ain't got a lot there!
[Joy:] Seventeen.
[Rudy:] I knew you'd do that!... I'm gonna give her the chance, twenty four for two.
[Penny:] No.
[Wendy:] No.
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Penny:] No... twenty five.
[Joy:] Twenty six for two.
[Wendy:] Come on Stewart!... Yeah.
[Rudy:] Six.
[Joy:] Ten.... Ten.
[Rudy:] What did you say the score is?
[Penny:] Twenty.
[Joy:] Thirty... for two.
[Rudy:] No.
[Joy:] And again.
[Wendy:] Four.
[Rudy:] Nine.... [LAUGHTER] Ooh ooh []!
[Wendy:] Nineteen.
[Joy:] Twenty three.
[Penny:] Twenty six.... No, twenty five!
[Joy:] Thirty.
[Wendy:] No.... eleven.
[Penny:] Ten.
[Joy:] You only go.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Oh, I've got one of them, I've bloody got one!
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four... two, six
[Rudy:] Put my eight in the box and she went to go and grab it.
[Wendy:] What do you get? Got a Stewart?
[Penny:] No, fifteen
[Joy:] Fifteen two
[Penny:] two... er
[Joy:] two's four.
[Penny:] three is four. Lot of potential. One, two, three, four
[Rudy:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] six, seven eight.... Yeah... fifteen two, and two's four.
[Rudy:] I got fifteen two, fifteen four, two's six. I put my eight in the box, look!
[Penny:] That's not interesting! Just put the box down and yakking!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Better than my bloody two!
[Joy:] Yeah, well!... Say no more!
[Wendy:] Eight, nine, ten, jack!
[Rudy:] Four.... Look at that!
[Wendy:] Four... one, two, three, four... five
[Joy:] Five.
[Wendy:] was it five?
[Joy:] I put that hat in.
[Rudy:] An hat!... And, her hat!
[Penny:] No, your hat.
[Rudy:] Get your hat on!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] How we doing Derek?
[Wendy:] We're behind!
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] It's not much better anyway []!
[Rudy:] No, I shall keep talking!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] You were better off when you were talking!
[Penny:] Right.
[Rudy:] Well don't put that one there, cos I don't wannit!... Oh yes I do!
[Joy:] Ooh dear!
[Rudy:] I've got enough without it.
[Penny:] Have a good look at the.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] It's so complicated,!
[Rudy:] He's been a bloody fairy ain't he?
[Penny:] Who does what? I do this don't I?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] You do this [].... Is it hard?
[Joy:] Ohhh!
[Wendy:] Oh that'll do.
[Joy:] Mm!
[Wendy:] Will help us a bit.
[Penny:] All happy chaps?
[Rudy:] Very nice!
[Joy:] Nice!
[Wendy:] Go Stewart!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]... I got soap to put in my bloody!
[Wendy:] Go!
[Rudy:] It's all over [LAUGHTER]!
[Penny:] Nine!
[Joy:] Nine.
[Wendy:] You'll like them, cos you've used
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] your old card and you
[Joy:] Nineteen.
[Wendy:] score off them they can
[Rudy:] No,.
[Wendy:] twenty nine for two.
[Joy:] No.... Thirty one for two.
[Penny:] Ten.
[Joy:] Ooh ah!... Thirteen.
[Wendy:] Thirteen?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Nineteen.
[Rudy:] That's not a bad card.
[Joy:] Twenty two.
[Wendy:] What have we got?
[Joy:] Twenty two.
[Wendy:] Three, three... six... twenty two?
[Joy:] Mhm.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] erm... twenty two.
[Penny:] Twenty seven.
[Rudy:] Thirty.
[Joy:] Nope.... Oh! oh! oh! oh!
[Wendy:] Yeah... four, I've got one of them.
[Rudy:] Eigh eighteen
[Joy:] eighteen.
[Penny:] Yeah!
[Joy:] Twelve, twenty two.
[Penny:] Twenty nine.
[Joy:] No, you know that one.... I'll get
[Rudy:] Have we all gone?... That's a nice little card though that.
[Joy:] Good!... Terrific for me!
[Penny:] Erm, not a lot there I don't think.
[Rudy:] Fifteen two.
[Penny:] Two.
[Wendy:] Two.
[Penny:] Oh no, there's more than that.
[Rudy:] That's it.... That's right.
[Penny:] There's more than that.
[Joy:] one.
[Penny:] Was that one there?
[Joy:] No
[Penny:] Eight
[Joy:] I dunno.
[Penny:] ten, eleven... lot's
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] of potential again there.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] It's all the old potential.
[Wendy:] Well it's
[Rudy:] Well it
[Wendy:] something.
[Rudy:] don't matter, it don't matter, nothing for potential!
[Penny:] [sneeze]
[Rudy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four... four's eight... and four's twelve.
[Joy:] Eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.... Fifteen two... fifteen four
[Penny:] Eight.
[Joy:] and four's eight.
[Wendy:] Five, six, seven, eight.
[Joy:] Twelve.
[Wendy:] How many in the box?
[Rudy:] Twelve. No,, I'm waiting for my pay up!... So put yours on Derek!
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] I got two... threes... and I've got er... two... little ducks.
[Wendy:] Oh I'm.
[Rudy:] Stuck in the muds.
[Penny:] Right Derek... let's start showing our true potential!
[Wendy:] I kept her hand.
[Penny:] No, it's alright, you're going get it now.
[Wendy:] We haven't got anywhere near a dozen yet!
[Rudy:] No you haven't have you.
[Wendy:] Eight's, eight's about my highest I've got.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] I've had a few [].
[Penny:] I've had quite a few.... One or two twenty fours but nothing.
[Wendy:] Actually I've, so I've had.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Two twenty fours....
[Rudy:] Oh my God!... Is he hard to live with or is not?
[Wendy:] I'm bloody struggling I am!... To tell you the truth.
[Joy:] I think it's your partner, he's not pushing the cards round to you.
[Penny:] They're there Derek... it's just for
[Rudy:] There.
[Penny:] you to make use of them.
[Rudy:] They're there.... Yep, they're there.
[Wendy:] Is it our box?... We've gotta put... don't know whether it'll do
[Rudy:] I've gotta put that
[Wendy:] good but... we could have some here if we get the right ones.... Oh God!... Fucking hell!... Can't get a damn turn up!
[Rudy:] I've got a.
[Joy:] So have I.
[Penny:] Never mind Derek!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]... Seven.
[Wendy:] Twe, seventeen.
[Joy:] Twenty seven.
[Penny:] Twenty eight.
[Joy:] Twenty nine, thirty.
[Wendy:] No.
[Joy:] No?
[Penny:] Twenty one for two.
[Wendy:] Ooh!... Bloody hell!
[Rudy:] Ha!... Seven.
[Wendy:] Two.
[Joy:] Twenty seven.
[Rudy:] Nope.
[Joy:] Yours again.
[Penny:] Whatever one I lay, she'll have the other to it!... Eight.
[Wendy:] What?
[Rudy:] Fourteen.
[Joy:] She's got
[Wendy:] Twenty four.
[Joy:] Twenty seven.
[Rudy:] One for you.
[Penny:] Seven.
[Joy:] Seven.
[Wendy:] Three.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four... fifteen six... and two is eight.
[Wendy:] Yeah... that's right that eight.
[Joy:] I got two, [LAUGHTER] just the one []!
[Penny:] Fifteen two, a pair's four and three is seven... yeah?
[Rudy:] Yeah, I
[Penny:] Seven.
[Rudy:] should think, seven it is.
[Joy:] Five, six, seven, yeah.
[Wendy:] Oh that's a bit better! Stewart, a lot in here mate.
[Penny:] Not a lot in here! Fifteen six, and six is a dozen that's!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Come on, get your money across! Come on!
[Penny:] Well... well I dunno.
[Rudy:] We knew what were in there before you even opened your hand up!
[Joy:] Hand up!
[Penny:] You couldn't of done cos you didn't know what I putting down!
[Rudy:] We did, we
[Joy:] We did.
[Rudy:] We knew what
[Joy:] We knew what were in there!
[Rudy:] We knew which of three already dead.
[Wendy:] I out there.
[Rudy:] already got one!
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Penny:] Don't get nasty! Now come on!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] Drop dead!
[Penny:] It all shows doesn't it?
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I mean
[Wendy:] I'd, I'd help them.
[Penny:] Stop touching me in the knee Derek!
[Rudy:] Oh it's your
[Penny:] You did it all then mate, you did it all.
[Joy:] Eighteen.
[Rudy:] Eight in the hole. And.
[Penny:] See what close liaison does between good players!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] What does that mean?
[Joy:] I dunno.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] Don't know, but it ain't bloody helping us much []!
[Rudy:] Well it's not an effort... it's not an effortism for a [LAUGHTER] then is it []?... Nor an effortitism!... Neffortiti!
[Penny:] Oh dear!
[Rudy:] Neffortiti!
[Joy:] You okay?
[Penny:] He's being a good aren't you
[Rudy:] He isn't.
[Penny:] now?
[Rudy:] He's peeping!
[Wendy:] go at them.... Is it jaws?
[Rudy:] Yep.... [LAUGHTER] Jaws []!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Jaws []!
[Wendy:] Wonder which one?
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Yours []!
[Penny:] That's a pretty good
[Rudy:] Yours!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Jaws box []!
[Wendy:] Jaw's box.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] I wanted something, didn't do that.
[Wendy:] Erm... right, nine.
[Joy:] Nine.
[Rudy:] Sixteen.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Rudy:] Another six is fifteen.
[Penny:] Fifteen
[Joy:] Oh dear!
[Penny:] twenty five.
[Rudy:] Twenty and nine.
[Penny:] Thirty.
[Wendy:] What do you want?
[Penny:] Any advance on thirty?
[Joy:] No,.
[Penny:] Nope.
[Joy:] Yep.
[Penny:] You going backwards or... forward?
[Wendy:] No.
[Joy:] Seven.
[Penny:] You just went that way.
[Joy:] Yeah he is.
[Rudy:] That's right.
[Wendy:] We're going
[Joy:] No, you went up
[Wendy:] we're going anti-clockwise.
[Joy:] You're going up there now.
[Penny:] Yep,
[Wendy:] Going up it that way.
[Penny:] But you went down here!
[Joy:] Yeah, you went down.
[Wendy:] No I didn't!
[Joy:] You did!... You're doing it again!
[Penny:] You did!... You
[Joy:] You did.
[Penny:] went down there!
[Wendy:] No I did not!
[Joy:] You did, I know you did, cos you were eight in front of us.
[Wendy:] Did I?
[Penny:] Yeah!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] Oh Christ! That's why we ain't done no dealings!
[Rudy:] It's alright... he, he's watching you!
[Joy:] I know whether you have.... Seven.
[Penny:] Er
[Rudy:] Seven.
[Penny:] seven... fourteen for two.
[Rudy:] Ay... hup!
[Penny:] That's the way.
[Rudy:] Seventeen.
[Joy:] Seventeen.
[Wendy:] Twenty seven.
[Joy:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] Thirty one for four.
[Wendy:] Hang on!... Five.
[Joy:] Got six, seven.
[Rudy:] Ooh!... Seven.
[Wendy:] Seventeen.
[Joy:] Twenty five.
[Rudy:] Again.
[Joy:] No?
[Wendy:] Thirteen.
[Joy:] One out each.
[Rudy:] ah!
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Penny:] Six.
[Joy:] And six.
[Wendy:] Not getting away with them!
[Penny:] Fifteen two, pair's four... and that is all.
[Joy:] I got fifteen two, fifteen four, five, six, seven.... And
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine... that six is fifteen, and one sixteen! [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] []!
[Penny:] What can you do to her?
[Wendy:] Can't... compete with hands like that mate!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Can teach yourself... half of that's about my stamp.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]... That was a good one weren't it? Bloody hell!
[Joy:] That was very good!
[Rudy:] Thank you.
[Penny:] Where do I keep the arsenic?... Erm
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] Want some arsenic?... Say, okay yeah!
[Penny:] I can't and you're in the air.
[Wendy:] Couldn't possibly hate somebody
[Penny:] What are we now?
[Wendy:] Give them a bloody good shuffle this time!
[Penny:] Oh that's not too bad!
[Joy:] Are you being?
[Penny:] It's only an hour.... It's not too bad.... And as long as you keep
[Wendy:] You come a bit early from
[Rudy:] Yeah,.
[Penny:] Leo!... Come on, don't start disturbing him!... You've been a good boy! [dog barks]
[Joy:] What's?
[Penny:] What's he up to?... Go on!... Go back!... Jesus wept!... Erm... one card would really do me some good. [dog barks]
[Rudy:] I don't want no more, I've got enough here.
[Joy:] Do you want this one?... One like this?
[Wendy:] Who's is the box?
[Penny:] It's your go!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... That's the one! that's the one!
[Wendy:] Is this the one is it?
[Joy:] That's the one.
[Wendy:] Oh Christ!
[Rudy:] Great!... Why didn't we have that one?
[Wendy:] Well it helps a bit!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] me good!
[Rudy:] Ten.
[Penny:] Ten.
[Wendy:] Twenty.
[Joy:] Thirty three.
[Penny:] No.... Ten.
[Joy:] Twenty for two.
[Wendy:] Thirty.
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] Hang on!
[Rudy:] Ooh this is my box coming now!
[Joy:] Ten.
[Rudy:] Ten.... You.
[Penny:] Nineteen.
[Joy:] Twenty nine.
[Rudy:] No.
[Penny:] Ten.
[Joy:] Fifteen.
[Wendy:] Eighteen.
[Joy:] Twenty two for three.
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] No.... Twenty
[Joy:] Twenty one.
[Rudy:] five... fo, for three and a go.
[Joy:] Three again.... Stewart!
[Penny:] Ten.
[Joy:] Twenty.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Ooh []!... Two holes.... Two kings.... Two hole.
[Penny:] Four jacks, that's all I got, so what's that?
[Rudy:] Doz twelve
[Penny:] ... and one
[Rudy:] and hung up... thirty. [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Five, and you'd got a
[Penny:] What?
[Joy:] That five, yeah, makes it!
[Rudy:] Yeah!
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Rudy:] Cos he's got one for his hat.... Somewhere.
[Wendy:] Four, eight... five, ten, and one, two, three.
[Rudy:] I won't pay you cos I've got a dozen.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Oh []!
[Penny:] Have you?
[Rudy:] Mm.... No I don't pay you cos you
[Penny:] How do we get these... bloody hats?
[Wendy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four... fifteen six, and two's eight.... I keep getting bloody eight!
[Joy:] Five... seven
[Penny:] It's alright.
[Joy:] eight
[Penny:] Is this the first run round?
[Rudy:] No, this is home.
[Wendy:] Home.
[Rudy:] What again?
[Joy:] Yes it is cos the
[Rudy:] ... yeah
[Joy:] yeah... cos Derek were going backwards when we went round the corner weren't we?
[Penny:] Oh yes, that's right, he was.
[Joy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four and two's six!
[Rudy:] Fifteen two, fifteen four and two's six!... Ooh and it's your.
[Penny:] Oh well Derek, there's a chance still mate, if we can stop them pegging but I think the chances of stopping them pegging three is a bit remote!
[Rudy:] No!
[Joy:] No!... You've got the first lead.
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah I know []!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] And that's worth six to you for a start []!
[Rudy:] I can only make two, Derek can make four!... Or six!... It all depends whether I take it or not!
[Penny:] But we want to make ten!
[Joy:] Aha!
[Penny:] No, I think it's pretty... as I said, we can reduce it a bit.
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Four bloody jacks!
[Joy:] I know!... And that five.
[Wendy:] I had one one day and a five turned up!
[Penny:] Yeah, still there.
[Joy:] Yeah another twenty four!... Twenty four
[Rudy:] You hand one day it was twenty nine weren't it?
[Penny:] twenty... no
[Joy:] Twenty five it will have been.
[Penny:] Was it?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Two, four, six, eight
[Joy:] No, sorry, twenty, twenty one!
[Penny:] twenty, twenty one!... Twenty one.
[Joy:] Sorry!
[Rudy:] Who's box?
[Joy:] Mine.... That'll be
[Rudy:] How many do we want?
[Wendy:] Three.
[Rudy:] You better peg two and half! [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] You better peg
[Penny:] Is that a nice
[Rudy:] three
[Penny:] card for you?
[Rudy:] beautiful!
[Joy:] Alright.
[Rudy:] Bootiful!
[Joy:] [whispering] Have a look down that box [].
[Rudy:] Come on, stop your chattering!
[Penny:] I'm glad it isn't your box!
[Joy:] No, in my hand... cut me a jack and give me two.
[Wendy:] What do you want?
[Joy:] Jack.
[Wendy:] Cut me a ten.
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] Is that what you want []?
[Wendy:] Ahhh God!
[Penny:] Ooh, are they good!
[Joy:] Four on there.
[Wendy:] Bloody five now!
[Rudy:] Now it's up to Stewart, whatever he blooming took!
[Wendy:] Yeah... and we gotta stop you from pegging!
[Rudy:] If you want to.
[Penny:] Well I, I can't really do much about it old chap!
[Wendy:] Oh I see.
[Penny:] Because I've got a rather... stereo-typed type of hand, if you know what I mean?
[Wendy:] Oh I see.
[Penny:] Three.
[Joy:] Three.
[Rudy:] How many do we want?
[Joy:] Three.
[Rudy:] Six for two.
[Wendy:] Nine.
[Penny:] Ten.
[Rudy:] Half a six.
[Joy:] Nine.
[Wendy:] That's a bloody but
[Rudy:] Eighteen.
[Wendy:] Ohhh!
[Joy:] Eighteen
[Penny:] Go on!... Line them ohh!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] Six []!
[Penny:] No I can't!
[Wendy:] Eighteen.
[Penny:] Eighteen.
[Wendy:] I had two left!
[Penny:] [shouting] I can't! I haven't got them []!
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]... Thirty four.
[Rudy:] Same as mine!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] He doesn't even know he's got them!
[Wendy:] Oh I got best bloody hand around!
[Joy:] I only had two kings!
[Rudy:] Ah?
[Wendy:] What?... I had... look... I had... bloody fives
[Rudy:] Put them in the box!
[Wendy:] and sixes and threes and what's... Oh God!
[Rudy:] Put them in the box!
[Joy:] Put them in the box!
[Penny:] Oh I wasn't worried the box, I knew it wouldn't get that far.
[Rudy:] Erm... three and a half each, that's all.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] How much is it?
[Wendy:] Yeah what is it?
[Joy:] Three?
[Rudy:] Three.
[Penny:] I tell you what... I tell you what, seeing as I'm generous... I'll give you the chance of getting
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] One or to, or two.... Is it? Or three or four?... Heads.
[Joy:] Wait till we get a two.
[Rudy:] No, you got a two, get out!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] Might of bloody known!... Waste of time me cutting, of course!
[Rudy:] Oh dear!
[Joy:] Oh dear!
[Rudy:] Do you want another one of them? Or do you wanna play Knap?
[Wendy:] Want to play Knap?... What about Knap?
[Penny:] Knap?
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Can you remember?
[Wendy:] You can play Knap.... Whist
[Penny:] But I've forgotten it.
[Wendy:] Whisty Knap.... No, it's a whist game that is.
[Penny:] I'll guarantee I'll watch it while you're doing it, I, I've completely gone, you know what I'm like!
[Joy:] Yeah,
[Penny:] Ah, why don't you start it!
[Wendy:] That's it, you ge, what you do is you
[Rudy:] I'll sort the cards out, you'll know it.
[Joy:] You go, you go
[Penny:] You lay you know, how many cards do you have?
[Joy:] Five.
[Wendy:] Five.
[Rudy:] Five.
[Penny:] Five, yeah.... And then what do you... tell me what you do,.
[Rudy:] There's five cards.... Yeah
[Joy:] No
[Rudy:] then yo, you have a one... you have a for a penny.
[Penny:] Ah!
[Joy:] Penny ah!
[Penny:] It's coming back to me now!
[Rudy:] That, yeah.
[Penny:] I like this one.
[Rudy:] And then if you can go, you go three with eight... four with, four without, five.
[Penny:] Ah, it's winning tricks, [LAUGHTER] yeah []!
[Rudy:] Two.... And if somebody's going... you keep your king double.
[Penny:] So it's
[Rudy:] So it's everything else
[Penny:] the minimum amount is three isn't it?
[Rudy:] That's right.
[Penny:] And it's with and without all the way up to that, yeah.
[Rudy:] Yeah, so the card
[Penny:] And it takes ages to call
[Rudy:] can't have three with it, you gotta go three without.
[Penny:] And what's the, the knap is the top hand you
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Penny:] what do you do? You lay
[Rudy:] Go five.
[Penny:] and you
[Rudy:] Napoleon it if you've over called.... You have to lay your lowest trump card first.
[Penny:] First... But Derek always calls the next one up the stop the kitty game.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] [].
[Penny:] That's what he told me to do.
[Rudy:] That's right.
[Penny:] So... that's right.... I've gotta call pig calling
[Rudy:] Yeah, but you see... if you call
[Joy:] In fact, you're gonna double up.
[Rudy:] We want a... pi, er pot for the
[Penny:] Right.
[Joy:] Er to,to,to
[Penny:] Will this do?
[Joy:] Yeah put it on table, that'll do.
[Rudy:] Yeah, that'll do.
[Joy:] It's only in front first time round.
[Penny:] I couldn't think what it was and... me erm
[Rudy:] Yeah it is.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Oh it's got K Y T V on it now, yep.
[Rudy:] What's that?... What's that?
[Penny:] It's a television set, er er television er... pretend television... erm... company. It's a satire on... it's very clever actually!... And apparently it's based on K Y jelly! Which I can't quite see what that's got to do with a... television company but
[Joy:] No!
[Rudy:] That's your hand... that's the peeper.... That's your hand, that's the peeper.
[Penny:] You have to quite carefully, be extra carefully with me for a minute cos I can't quite
[Rudy:] Yeah, well we know that!
[Penny:] remember this.... Do you have trumps, hearts, clubs, diamonds, spades?
[Rudy:] The first one that you lay is the trumps.
[Penny:] Ah, that's right!... Right.... Er... everything is clear!... So we got five cards out.... How many sleeping then, loads?
[Rudy:] Three!
[Penny:] Ah, just a minute! No, they're all from... from, from nine to
[Rudy:] Nine to the ace.
[Joy:] Nine to ace.
[Penny:] Nine to the ace.... And there's three sleeping from nine to the ace, I see.... Right.
[Wendy:] Ah.
[Rudy:] You in Derek?
[Wendy:] No I'm not.... out.
[Rudy:] Yep... that's, so we're all in.
[Joy:] That's the peeper, you wanna say who you had
[Rudy:] Hang on!.. pay to have a look.... And if you're going you have to share it when you got
[Penny:] No, not all that bothered
[Rudy:] the card.
[Penny:] not all that bothered.
[Joy:] I'll have a look.
[Rudy:] I'll try a three!
[Joy:] Hello!
[Penny:] This is a right one here!
[Joy:] Hello!
[Penny:] Oh!... No... ah!
[Rudy:] Three.... Three.... Three at me, right.
[Penny:] This looks pretty good.
[Wendy:] One.
[Rudy:] Oh ah! Yeah!
[Joy:] Two.
[Penny:] Erm
[Wendy:] Got some players here.
[Penny:] Oh well.... Two.
[Joy:] That's mine.
[Wendy:] No....! Turned out hasn't it?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] That's mine.
[Rudy:] No,yo, that's yours.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] [LAUGHTER] You knew all the bloody time []!... Standing there waiting for six!
[Wendy:] Do you reckon
[Rudy:] I reckon she did!
[Wendy:] I reckon she must be, cos I've got the nine! Or is it
[Penny:] !
[Joy:] Here you go then.
[Rudy:] Good though weren't it?
[Penny:] I reckon she knows!
[Rudy:] The way she was hanging on!
[Wendy:] What?
[Rudy:] But she's waiting.
[Penny:] I can't really... do I shuffle?
[Rudy:] Yeah.... Excuse me!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] quite lucky []!
[Penny:] And you deal five?
[Rudy:] Five, yeah.
[Penny:] Right.
[Rudy:] And then you have a first look, but you don't have
[Penny:] Do we put a penny in the kitty now?
[Rudy:] No, cos she
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] paid me.
[Joy:] And you had the last show, cos you're the first looker.
[Penny:] Does anyone cut?
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] No.
[Penny:] Right.... I'm checking!... Just so, cos otherwise I
[Rudy:] Just get on with it!
[Penny:] get my face slapped or something if I do it wrong!
[Rudy:] Too right!
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Rudy:] You can have it!
[Joy:] You could park it on
[Wendy:] Oh
[Rudy:] sometimes.
[Wendy:] Do you want it before then?
[Penny:] No.
[Rudy:] No.
[Joy:] No, no.
[Rudy:] Cos you won't forget it,
[Wendy:] No, you're.
[Joy:] Just remember what it is.... I'll have a look.
[Wendy:] Nope.
[Penny:] [sigh]
[Wendy:] Er... I'll go four with it.
[Penny:] I'll go four without.
[Rudy:] Four without it?
[Penny:] Yep.
[Rudy:] Come on then!
[Penny:] Got a bloody tricky!... Most likely lose a fortune at this!
[Rudy:] One you got!
[Penny:] One.... How do you keep track of what you've
[Rudy:] Two.
[Wendy:] Two.
[Penny:] got? Do you just have to remember?
[Rudy:] No
[Joy:] Two.
[Rudy:] na, no, we're watching you.
[Penny:] Oh well that's... bloody obvious!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] To []
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] You are stupid []!
[Penny:] Now who followed, anybody?
[Rudy:] No, yep, yep, no, nobody followed.
[Joy:] Ooh!
[Rudy:] A three.
[Penny:] Hello!
[Rudy:] Three.
[Wendy:] Christ!
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Perhaps that could of come from there!
[Joy:] Let's see.
[Wendy:] That's what?
[Rudy:] Sixty.
[Penny:] What each, two each?
[Joy:] No.... Two each, that's right
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Joy:] yeah.
[Wendy:] That's it.... So you don't pay for it.
[Joy:] Put them in the box.
[Wendy:] No.
[Joy:] Put the... kitty in that.
[Rudy:] We, we all put it in the box, we don't pay other.
[Penny:] Right, yes, right.
[Joy:] You had a good shot there.
[Penny:] Oh I thought I'd give it a try, why not!
[Rudy:] Yeah, you've got to.
[Penny:] Just sit all night doing nothing.
[Rudy:] And when there's four of you playing i... and you get down to the last two or three card.
[Penny:] I with the jack, so I thought well somebody will throw me the thing, you know?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] And they did.
[Rudy:] I hadn't got
[Penny:] Right.
[Rudy:] nothing else to
[Penny:] No
[Rudy:] come back at you with.
[Wendy:] Not any good!
[Joy:] Not any good!... Three.
[Penny:] Did you say three?
[Joy:] Go on then.... One, two, three!
[Rudy:] And somebody put a three
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] behind me.
[Penny:] Well I have as it happens
[Rudy:] We take ours.
[Penny:] I happen to have five in a row here!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I never had one!
[Wendy:] I got two.
[Joy:] My queen's asleep!
[Rudy:] Oh well I'd better
[Joy:] What do you have?... Three
[Rudy:] Three P.
[Penny:] Does that go in front?
[Joy:] Derek's deal.
[Rudy:] No, that goes
[Penny:] That all goes in there.
[Rudy:] To me.
[Penny:] Alright,
[Wendy:] My deal is it?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Anybody wanted to put the kettle to.
[Joy:] Don't please!
[Rudy:] Derek, you've bloody
[Wendy:] What?
[Rudy:] you've put all the cards down!
[Wendy:] Oh I never!... [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] You're just... studying
[Wendy:] Where did I, oh I got them off of there didn't I?... The... thumb!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]... And then you split them!
[Wendy:] Well I only cut them anyway!
[Joy:] Yeah I know that!
[Rudy:] Stewart.
[Penny:] Do you mind mugs?
[Joy:] Phone!
[Rudy:] Phone!
[Penny:] Do you mind mugs?
[Joy:] No!... That's it!
[Wendy:] Like that?... How many should there be here then?
[Rudy:] That's it! That's it!
[Wendy:] Oh!
[Penny:] [phone answered] Hello!
[Wendy:] Twenty four.
[Penny:] Hello Mandy!
[Joy:] That's right.
[Penny:] No.
[Wendy:] Nine, ten, jack, queen, king.
[Penny:] Where are you?
[Joy:] Ace.
[Wendy:] Ace.
[Penny:] Oh that one?
[Joy:] Six four's
[Penny:] And erm yes, your mum's out!... Yes, she's gone to... and I just ordered the..., ha!... You alright?... Was there me, message love?...... alright?... Love to you all!... Bye bye!... We all had the... battery switched off.
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Penny:] Had it in the bedroom when I was a kip this afternoon and I switched the battery off, [LAUGHTER] so it doesn't [] work very well with the battery off!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] What are we playing?
[Rudy:] Knap....
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Oh ah []!
[Rudy:] Oh ah!
[Joy:] Urrgh!
[Wendy:] There's yours here.
[Penny:] Any calls yet?
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] No.
[Wendy:] No.
[Penny:] So how far's it gone round?
[Rudy:] Me.
[Wendy:] Only you.
[Penny:] Is it alright to call
[Rudy:] Only me to see,yo
[Penny:] once you've called them?
[Joy:] Yep.... You do what you like!
[Wendy:] up a call.... You can't call that... you can't over call if ain't called a
[Rudy:] at all.
[Joy:] .
[Wendy:] at all, no.... I can't do it when I'm playing with our Marge, she gets her hair on!
[Joy:] Ha!
[Penny:] I'll go three.
[Joy:] I'll have a look.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] I'll let you, two three.... Cos I'm dumb!
[Penny:] Right, oh it's my lead is it?
[Joy:] Yeah your lead.... First one's your trump.
[Penny:] Oh my... I've lost it!
[Rudy:] Mm.
[Penny:] Yep... ha.
[Wendy:] I can't do much now!... [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Well you've done that already mate!
[Joy:] Jus... just keep your money there!
[Wendy:] Sorry!
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Joy:] It's alright.
[Rudy:] [whispering] tonight [].
[Joy:] Mm... nice one for that.
[Wendy:] One.
[Rudy:] One.
[Joy:] That's one. Two.
[Wendy:] Two.... And that one.
[Rudy:] Two.
[Joy:] Two.
[Penny:] I'm not gonna make it now.... I should of
[Joy:] Shall I?
[Penny:] gone.... Take my money and see if you can do better than me!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Penny:] Do you want
[Rudy:] How many
[Penny:] coffee?
[Rudy:] How many shall I put in, sixteen tens?
[Penny:] I'd
[Wendy:] Yes.
[Penny:] have gone next to go four with actually.
[Rudy:] Yeah, that's right.
[Joy:] Well why didn't you then?
[Penny:] Well I, I didn't think about that, all three without was easier, but I think four with would have been better.
[Joy:] Well, sometimes they aren't.
[Penny:] Erm, coffee, coffee, coffee?
[Rudy:] Coffee, please?
[Penny:] Derek?
[Wendy:] Yes
[Penny:] with sugar
[Wendy:] please?
[Penny:] and milk? What about
[Joy:] Yes please?
[Penny:] you girls?
[Rudy:] I'll... yes three please.
[Penny:] Do you mind mugs?
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] No.... We have one.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] No []!
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] We're using it.
[Penny:] [whistling]
[Joy:] Ooh!... Ooh, ooh, ooh!
[Rudy:] I picked... I picked up.
[Penny:] No whispering!
[Wendy:] What is?
[Rudy:] Which a... which is the P cup?... That one?... I'll have to... guess in the pack.... Daren't whisper it, Derek.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] [whispering] This is better [].
[Wendy:] Hahhh!... You got a job yet, none of you?
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] No.
[Joy:] No I don't
[Wendy:] Ah?... What you doing now then?
[Joy:] Tea factory.
[Wendy:] Oh yeah.
[Joy:] You know Briggs's
[Rudy:] She's a.
[Wendy:] Oh you work with Mo then?
[Joy:] I'm.... Who?
[Wendy:] Mo.... Morris, he works there, Briggs's... What Woolsden
[Joy:] Yeah.... Morris?
[Wendy:] Mm.... Morris... Mo.... You know Morris?
[Joy:] Oh yeah, somebody ordered that the other day, but I've never
[Wendy:] Mokey... I ca, it's, that's the only one if it ca
[Joy:] , that's from a long way away that name.
[Wendy:] If you call him Moke... I'm the only person that calls i... that calls him that, so he'll know... who [LAUGHTER] you're related to [].... I thought, I'll tell you who he used to remind me of, cos I sta... he started coming to me when he had his first car... and he reminded me yo ma, you know erm... Seventy Seventy Sunset Strip?
[Joy:] Oh yeah!
[Rudy:] Oh yeah!
[Wendy:] I, well Mokey
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] was in that.... This bloke. They were old motorbike cops or something, one of thems' name was Mokey
[Joy:] Eddie.
[Wendy:] and he reminded me of... of i... well, that's what I've called
[Rudy:] Weren't one of them Cookie?
[Joy:] Yeah, Cookie... that was Eddie.... Eddie
[Wendy:] [cough]...... and one was Mokey.
[Joy:] And Eddie, no...., yeah.... Mokey... oh!... I shall have to erm
[Wendy:] Well at least, I think his Mrs works down there.
[Joy:] Keith were telling me his
[Wendy:] Pat.
[Joy:] wife's took vo, voluntary re... redundancy yesterday.
[Rudy:] Keith?
[Joy:] Mm.
[Wendy:] Up from where?
[Joy:] Whitworths... night duty.
[Wendy:] Oh yeah.... Oh yeah.
[Joy:] No, Keith... yeah.
[Rudy:] ?
[Joy:] Mm.
[Rudy:] I didn't know that.
[Joy:] Cases of... all gone down.... There's
[Wendy:] Are they?
[Joy:] now pricing on them.
[Rudy:] Mm mm!... Do you hear about that young girl killed in Rushton the other night?
[Wendy:] No.
[Rudy:] Mm, said that
[Wendy:] Oh yeah! We one of
[Rudy:] Yeah, thought it were Wendy's children.
[Wendy:] One of 's erm
[Rudy:] Who... which were it?
[Wendy:] All the 's always lived up there ain't they?... Erm
[Joy:] What Harrison? Wha,wha... What are they to do, with the garage... people?
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Are they?
[Wendy:] They used to have... they used to have cars, taxis and what have you.
[Rudy:] There's no end of bouquets out there on that lawn!... Where she were killed!
[Wendy:] Sad it is
[Rudy:] Two boys racing up er, Chester Hill. Killed her on the top of er, Chester Road, the bendy avenue!
[Wendy:] What... joy riding someone?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Young girl!
[Rudy:] They were racing.
[Joy:] Young girl... eleven year old... killed her outright, and the mother was... found along the street... and she's... seriously ill!
[Wendy:] Hope they got them!
[Penny:] Who's this, recent people?
[Joy:] Saturday
[Rudy:] Yeah
[Joy:] night!
[Rudy:] Saturday night!
[Joy:] Half past nine Saturday night!
[Penny:] Oh, Oh, I took the dog for a walk last... tonight, and there's some skid marks down the end of Crouch Road the there's the... and then... they'd taken half the road out and you can see someone's... done a wheely, and they've gone in and done like this business and shot off!
[Joy:] That'll be where they've left they
[Penny:] Is she dead?
[Rudy:] She left three children on the edge.
[Joy:] Left three children there and took the... took eleven year old for a wa, dog for a walk, and nobody knew she'd left them there, cos she didn't come back until Sunday afternoon at three o'clock!... So they were on their own all that while!... The other's only eight!
[Penny:] Bloody hell! Why?... Cor!
[Joy:] Eight, five and three.... Cheers!
[Penny:] Erm... sugar.
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Penny:] The...
[Rudy:] That's what I say, you don't realise you took the dog for a walk
[Joy:] Ooh that looks nice sugar!
[Rudy:] you get bloody killed
[Penny:] Mm.
[Rudy:] do you?
[Wendy:] That's a bit of tragedy! Are they alright
[Joy:] That's nice sugar, is it demerara?
[Wendy:] then, the little-uns?
[Penny:] No, ordinary golden
[Rudy:] Yeah, they went
[Wendy:] Was it
[Penny:] it's golden, sort of this
[Joy:] Really! Oh, looks nice!
[Rudy:] No, the daughter took them out to erm... look at the.
[Wendy:] Cor!... Bloody hell!
[Penny:] There's no sugar in there Derek.
[Wendy:] Right.
[Rudy:] They thought it were Katy, they went up to Ra, er, to Wendy's at half past eleven
[Wendy:] .
[Rudy:] at night asking for Kozo's
[Wendy:] At night?
[Rudy:] Yeah!
[Joy:] If I'd have that she would be glad... had knocked her sis, sisters into the garden and didn't know she was there!
[Penny:] And they got... are the kids... alive?
[Joy:] Yeah... she'd left the other three in... at home.
[Penny:] And... the one who was driving the car?
[Joy:] Oh yeah, they're alright!
[Rudy:] You know the South Avenue? You know the South Avenue?
[Penny:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] That was right on that corner it had been
[Penny:] Oh that
[Rudy:] it went... they were racing like that, and a car come that way, so went that way
[Penny:] Yep.
[Rudy:] and went straight through the garden and all the... the time and all that he'd spent...... and he went straight just... through the garden and knocked her.... Went past the garden, they didn't find her for thirty minutes... the little girl!
[Wendy:] Poor sods!
[Rudy:] But the mother
[Wendy:] Bloody hell!
[Rudy:] hit the front of the car and she went that way, and she finished up in the hedge... just... so that they found her but she was unconscious.
[Wendy:] ?
[Penny:] Erm... and what were th, and the boys, they've got drivers have they?
[Rudy:] Oh yeah.
[Penny:] And then they'll give one
[Rudy:] Well
[Penny:] of them... a ticking off and
[Rudy:] Oh they'll just get the back of their hand slapped!
[Penny:] few days in borstal, whatever!
[Rudy:] That's right, that's it innit!... It's awful!... It's crazy innit!... The world's all topsy turvy!
[Joy:] It is awful!
[Wendy:] But no one cares about it!
[Rudy:] But they thought it were Wendy's daughter! And they went up and asked Wendy for photos.
[Penny:] Yeah.... So I mean yo, you just mind your own business you get killed!.
[Rudy:] They were out walking the dog!
[Joy:] That's what I say you.
[Rudy:] Half past nine at bloody night!
[Penny:] Well I saw these skid marks tonight, and I thought well how... I didn't realise, until I suddenly realised what had happened that someone
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] you know?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Penny:] Driven up the dead end and gone zonk, zonk, like that!
[Joy:] What was it? It was erm... erm, a turbo.... An X R three turbo.... On the.
[Rudy:] I expect they were only a pair of kids!
[Joy:] And they was... [cough]... yeah, one was only twenty!
[Rudy:] Passed their first driving test!
[Joy:] One was eighteen, one was twenty!
[Rudy:] They ought to make it so that they don't have a car that goes above twenty five mile an hour I reckon!
[Joy:] Too right!... They don't much!
[Penny:] Well they tried them on motorbikes didn't they? Well their forty nine cc's are not meant to do more than thirty
[Wendy:] Mm.
[Penny:] but
[Rudy:] Yeah you were saying.
[Joy:] Yeah, you know Joe had a... a bump in his car... erm... on his front... left side?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Maureen was telling me [] today that erm... he erm... too, she took it to the garage... and... there was two bills laying on the table, one were for two hundred and... sixty odd... and were four hundred and seventy some odd
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] so she said... I thought to myself when I went in... I hope the two hundred pound one's mine, Joe'll go mad... if it's over four hundred!... She said and he picked them up and put them both together and it was seven hundred and odd she had to pay out, for her car!
[Rudy:] Bloody hell!
[Joy:] Yeah, and that wa, she said well it's an insurance job... she said well it don't matter, you stand the first hundred pound... and then... erm... then the VAT... so she said I dread to think what the price of the job were on the insurance!... So she said shall I get any of that back? She said... only get about seventy pound back, which is the VAT.... [LAUGHTER]... That's a lot of money innit?... And she all... an and she were also telling me that erm... Ben... er... two boys at school set about Ben the other night and beat him up!... And Joe was so livid when he get in from work he went out and found them and smacked one of these kids nearly to death!... Joe, she said Joe... could be in trouble, I said well
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] I said it's about time somebody started on these kids I mean... the... been a television programme this morning about people living in their homes... afraid of going out... because they're getting molested and... and robbed, and one thing and another!... About time they started doing something about it!
[Rudy:] They don't... you know who they're looking for?... Those people who parking on double yellow lines!
[Joy:] Mm.... So I say it's a bit bit al... bit silly innit really!... We enjoyed erm... we enjoyed our walk though... this afternoon... it's beautiful down Ringstead... there's lo, some beautiful, there was a heron and some swans... oh lo, hundreds of ducks!... And erm
[Rudy:] Down by the river, turn right at canal.
[Joy:] Yeah, the one that lays near Addington Road
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] You know which one I mean?
[Rudy:] Aha.
[Joy:] You've... for part of the walk, you walk right along the Addington Road... along... just inside the Addington Road where the bridge is, do you know where the bridge is?... Well that's the canal, that's the lake where we walk round.... Maureen thoroughly enjoyed it, she said... I said do you come along here on your own? She said, no, no she said I wouldn't... come on my own and she said there's, it's too desolate!... I said well I... I don't mind a walk.... So who you playing tonight?
[Rudy:] Leicester.
[Joy:] Mothercare or Boots and
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] things like that.
[Wendy:] And these I couldn't get up this morning thought about....
[Joy:] Yeah
[Wendy:] So
[Joy:] I rang mine in Wellingborough Yeah... Come on... Benjy!... Come on!... Good boy!
[Wendy:] Nothing there?
[Joy:] No.... Just the same as, see there's so many... out of work... the amount of people that are going for the jobs, there's so many of them they erm... they're all got some sort of experience, even if it's just doing a... a week.
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] So... I think I've gotta just get in and get my... erm... head down and... and do some sort of home training
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] and er... as I say, this woman... at this Department of... Health, where I'm going tomorrow... she'll probably get me... in contact with erm... er... people that'll help me to do the bits that I need.
[Wendy:] Yeah... yeah.... Just training that's
[Joy:] I mean yo
[Wendy:] all.
[Joy:] it can't take you that long to learn to lift somebody properly!
[Wendy:] Cor even if it takes you three days!... But er...
[Joy:] Yeah... if you have to learn how to do something properly, there's a right way and a wrong way....
[Wendy:] That's right.
[Joy:] just every now and then... minimum wages
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] ... [shouting] Come on, Benjy []! I think there is a multi-storey... adjoining the Grosvenor Centre. But that's not the one... cos you have to come out of there and cross over.... I think the one on the Grosvenor Centre... is erm... you know where the big bus station is?
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] I think it's along side that, behind that... remember we got in the wrong lane one day and we
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] had to... go round.
[Rudy:] Had to go round again.
[Joy:] Looks as if old... and Annie are busting up dunnit?
[Rudy:] like the sea isn't she?
[Joy:] Yeah.... Maureen was saying today she dreads if Kinnock gets in!
[Connie:] And you know you couldn't help but, it were lovely!... They had some lovely records!...... And er... anyway he come and ask me for a dance he did... he goes, I'm not much of dancer we did that one... you know, what they call it?
[Joy:] Ninety five balloons?
[Connie:] No, we did the, but this one where you go... something barn dance innit?... It's a sort of a, a barn dance.... Anyway, I did it with him you know... and he said, sorry that weren't long enough, he said [LAUGHTER] what's your telephone number []!... Cos he's, he's on his own, you know?... I said oh I'm not gonna give you my telephone number after the things I've been hearing about you!... Gotta have a new organ and all [LAUGHTER] this []!... He said he didn't half sound good didn't it, he said!... What I'm gonna have done to my organ! We have a real laugh you see, [LAUGHTER] he's such a [] queer bloke and all!... He danced like a bloody elephant!
[Joy:] Did ta, Katy take her organ with her?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Did she?... When she went?
[Connie:] likes his job better than that other one.
[Joy:] Mm... which job?
[Connie:] He's got a new job... working on
[Joy:] Is he?
[Connie:] working on a fish and chip van, he absolutely loves it!
[Joy:] Where?
[Connie:] ... pedals over in the morning on Michael's bike and... comes home at eight o'clock at, half past eight at night.
[Joy:] Who's that for?
[Connie:] Young lad that started last month... he's doing
[Joy:] Oh!
[Connie:] ever so well, they go all round the old erm... villages... wa erm... Weemington and... eighty pound a week he gets!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] That's nearly twice as much [LAUGHTER] []!
[Joy:] Does he?... Oh!
[Connie:] And he can keep any tip, any tips
[Joy:] And tips.
[Connie:] that he can ge, that he gets, he can keep....
[Joy:] work days as well?
[Connie:] He just... they, he works eleven o'clock in the morning till eight at night.
[Joy:] That's alright innit?
[Connie:] Yeah.... And you can eat as much as as you want.... Yeah.
[Joy:] Can you?
[Connie:] Yeah.... [LAUGHTER] Fish and chip only two young lads he said... yesterday they didn't do no good at all, he said so this mor, ah?... No, the first day
[Joy:] He gets his money regardless...?
[Connie:] Yeah.... He said the first day I went, I, I... never sold anything except a couple of por... a bit dubious, so he cooked half a dozen sausages, one bit of fish... and did a few chips and said... I bet we'll be sitting here all day... well... every bugger come for fish and chips, hadn't got none had they!
[Joy:] Oh!
[Connie:] Well he said tha, they were cooking it on like... on site... on the caravan site, he said an,an, and you know, they got out of this caravan and then
[Joy:] Where does he go then?...
[Connie:] All round the villages....
[Joy:] Does he, does he go round the... the works?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Oh.
[Connie:] Yeah... cos they only took a hundred and something, but he said if I take about a hundred and something pound a day
[Joy:] It's a pity he don't go and do that... it's a pity he can't drive and go and do that
[Connie:] Well like I said to him... that milk round
[Joy:] He
[Connie:] cos I mean you're erm
[Joy:] he's getting they pay sixty pound, I mean that...
[Connie:] This bloke says he wants... four or five other vans by the end of next year and he says if you can get your driving lessons... all done and passed... he says you can take a van out on your own and have someone working under you... I'd, like you work under me.
[Joy:] Yeh.
[Connie:] He says, you know, you've got everything to work for.... He's only a young lad and all, he...
[Joy:] for my dinner he said... don't.
[Connie:] Well I said... but what whatever happens you mustn't... take any money!... He said, I won't.....
[Joy:] And I said the thing is, she'll pick him up off the floor... or she'll pick him up out the basket and say if you don't give me some money for some drugs I'll chuck him on the floor!... Then that'll be him dead then won't it!... I said if that's all you care about your baby well
[Wendy:] Did you tell her you'd rather have him yourself... did you
[Joy:] Yeah... yeah.
[Wendy:] ... and what she say?
[Rudy:] Joy, Joy told her that.
[Joy:] I told her it... I says she don't wanna lose this child, I said if the worst comes to the worst she'll have it herself.
[Connie:] Right, and I just said to her, we will know the outcome of it won't we?... Where she is... and what she's doing, you wouldn't just sort of, take her off and
[Wendy:] No.
[Connie:] we wouldn't know? She said oh no, we'll come back to you.
[Rudy:] I don't care as long as they know them so that somebody else has got some responsibility, she said I just can't be getting away with it and... and, and erm... being irresponsible.
[Joy:] She's probably picking one with Wendy, but she's picked the wrong one with me... cos I know too many loop holes!... I had all this before with rights.... Oh no!
[Wendy:] Cos she won't really want that.
[Joy:] Benjy!
[Connie:] Cor look, it makes all that nail right off, it don't half bloody hurt!
[Rudy:] you pushed it back a bit hard I expect.
[Connie:] Had a bloody gut full with her!
[Joy:] [shouting] Benjamin []!
[speaker002:] Oh my baby!
[Joy:] You're a pain in the whistle!
[Connie:] Pain in the whistle!
[Joy:] Pain in the whistle!
[Connie:] They went up there like a couple of out of a gun, when I opened the door!
[Joy:] You're all sticky again, and look at you!
[speaker002:] Eargh!
[Joy:] You're supposed to be a little picture book!
[Connie:] He says well... that's [LAUGHTER] up to you!... But he couldn't care less []!
[Joy:] I'm gonna stop you from... pi, ay!... Excuse me!... Ay!... I'm gonna stop you from going out and playing in the muck!... And the mud!
[Connie:] He says, oh shut up!... You're not you know!... Oh he's pretty!
[Joy:] Do you know he ain't been sick since I cut that me... hair from round his mouth.
[speaker002:] Ain't he?
[Joy:] No.
[speaker002:] No.
[Joy:] I'm sure them long hairs, get them round his mouth, I'm sure they got in his mouth when he was sleeping, cos he always sleeps on his back
[Wendy:] Yeah, and they get in his throat.
[Joy:] and they got in his throat and he couldn't get up
[speaker002:] And made him sick.
[Joy:] and it were making him... bad.
[Rudy:] Ah, I should keep them cut right down then.
[Joy:] I was saying to Maureen, me and Maureen took them round Lakes yesterday
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] and he... [LAUGHTER] he saw this... dike... this dike []... and he went straight in, he
[speaker002:] Oh!
[Joy:] thought it were road... he put all four in, and he went down, up to
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] he... and he were like this... in the water... I had to go down the bank... I grabbed hold of him in the middle of his back, just turfed him out.... I just grabbed hold of him like this and then
[speaker002:] [LAUGHTER]
[Joy:] straight out the water!
[speaker002:] Silly fool!
[Joy:] I said I don't know what he'd do cos Reakstead Lake's deep!... I hadn't been over there.
[Wendy:] Yeah.... Yeah.
[Connie:] you see them, they get in the mud and they can't get out!
[Joy:] Ya.... What're you doing any way?
[Connie:] Got lovely ain't he?
[Joy:] Ay?... [whispering] [].... Well I expect we ought to go over, do some work... got you a loaf, but I didn't get nothing else, if we just pop round by Swiss Bakery.
[speaker002:] No,
[Joy:] I'll go around the one way system.
[speaker002:] I've got some make some....
[Joy:] Did you see them things I bought this morning?
[Wendy:] Oh I won't be able to get it for the following day.... what's her name.
[Joy:] Bet she....
[Wendy:] Nothing else.
[Joy:] How much do you think?
[Wendy:] Don't know.... Ten... ten pounds fifty.
[Joy:] Six ninety nine.
[Wendy:] Where from?
[Joy:] I got myself a pair of white jogging trousers, ooh they're large!... Two ninety, ninety nine.
[Wendy:] Well you want them big really don't you?
[Joy:] So I bought some black plastic bags... fifty pence.... Two sets of pillow cases
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] for a pound each... look!
[Wendy:] They're nice them.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Joy:] They are alright aren't they?
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] I quite like them.... They got quilts... they got
[Wendy:] Yeah, it's nice.
[Joy:] quilts and pillows for one nine, one ninety nine for a quilt, nine ninety nine for a twelve point five tog... quilt.
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Wendy:] How much... twelve ninety?
[Joy:] Twelve... nine ninety nine for a twelve tog.
[Rudy:] Where's that at then?
[Joy:] This shop that's shutting
[Wendy:] What double?
[Joy:] down.
[Wendy:] Double size?
[Joy:] Yeah I think they're double.
[Wendy:] Oh.
[Joy:] That one I bought for Je... that bed that for twelve ninety nine for.
[Wendy:] What for?
[Joy:] Not...
[Wendy:] ... they got some nice ones in there for... that.... I think we're gonna go back to blankets.
[Joy:] You ought to have a quilt for the summer.
[Wendy:] Yeah... I've got one you see but... I've put been on it.
[Joy:] isn't that nice, they've got them in all colours!
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Every colour you can
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Joy:] think of!
[Connie:] a yellow....
[Joy:] They have, everything I have is pink!
[speaker002:] Yes.
[Joy:] And I've washed
[speaker002:] Got the yellow in a set.
[Joy:] washed my pink one yet.... and erm... it's gone all so, it's, it was old... and it was er
[Rudy:] Yeah it's alright.... Yeah.
[Joy:] Six ninety nine!... [LAUGHTER] I tell you our night really told you []... One night I was standing, we were getting ready to go out to do a show... and I was ironing... in the kitchen... and it were about six o'clock at night... and all of a sudden Rudy come flying at me... like this all over me, I thought... Christ not this time of [LAUGHTER] bleeding night []!... You know what I thought!... I said what's going on? And I were on fire... from head to foot!... My iron had blown, you know whe... where the plug, plug comes
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Joy:] out, it had blown... and a flash had gone onto my cotton dressing gown... my towelling
[speaker002:] Set light
[Joy:] dressing gown... and it had just gone straight up and the... flame
[Connie:] And you didn't know?
[Joy:] I didn't know, I was stood there ironing!... I was on fire from head to foot!...... Said I
[Connie:] Then you went and set your blanket on fire one night and the fire engine out didn't you?
[Joy:] No we never got the fire engine out... we just er... we just... when we got when we got home we sat eating... we'd got home from a show then and we were sat... eating supper, and it were about half past three in the morning and we sat talking, I said to Rudy I'm sure I can smell burning! He said no!... Well I said, I can.... And we went all round the bed and we went all round outside, we went all through the back... smelt outside Jane's door in case she'd... she were on fire... couldn't find nothing, sat down and read, he said it's cos the telly's on and I expect it's... damp and it's... you know
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Joy:] smelling.... Went to get in the bed and as Rudy [LAUGHTER] pulled the quilt off the smoke gushed out []!... And when we looked it all er... all, it had gone all the way through the mattress
[Connie:] Through the mattress.
[Joy:] almost through, it just
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] starting a little brown smoulder mark... it were like that... all the through the electric blanket of course all the through the... the sheets... all through the sheets and blankets... and it had just coming through the top... counterpane we used have a
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] what do you call it?... Erm Tor,too, no, what do you call them?
[Wendy:] Twill.
[Joy:] Them twilly things like
[Wendy:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Ca, erm... what do you call them?
[Rudy:] Like the one with the rib through it?
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] Chenille I think.
[Joy:] Yeah... no
[speaker002:] Erm
[Joy:] what do you call them?
[Wendy:] Well they're not called
[Joy:] Coconut
[Wendy:] Chenille?
[Joy:] No.
[Rudy:] No.... Begins with W dunnit?... Erm... oh God!
[Joy:] Anyway, I never thought, I just run out the kitchen and got... we switched the electric off, and I just got four buckets of water and chucked it on the bed and then said to [LAUGHTER] Rudy, you know what, we haven't got nowhere to sleep now []!
[Wendy:] No!
[Joy:] So we turned the mattress over and got [LAUGHTER] in bed []!
[Connie:] What, in the water?
[Joy:] In the water!
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] Just got in, well it weren't, it hadn't gone right the way through, we just turned it over and chu, chucked the... sheets and blankets back on once they'd... stopped smouldering and... got back on it! Slept on the top of all these filthy things!
[Rudy:] It were Gill that had the fire brigade up that night weren't it?
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] When she set her bed alight.
[Connie:] She said all the were up talking weren't they?
[Rudy:] Yeah... till four in the morning, she put
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] her blanket on about ten.
[Connie:] Playing cards weren't they?... Put the blanket on, and she said
[Rudy:] And went
[Connie:] we don't want the fire brigade we only want one man [LAUGHTER] to come up []!
[Rudy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] [LAUGHTER] And she had the
[Rudy:] When they
[Connie:] bloody firemen... all come up to the bed []!
[Rudy:] They looked at her... all when they pulled her sheets and blankets all back, the whole mattress is all a, all glowing
[Connie:] fire yeah.
[Rudy:] All on fire!
[Connie:] Yeah.... She said we hadn't even
[Rudy:] The whole lot!
[Connie:] to take it over.
[Rudy:] No!
[Joy:] They'll obviously say can you keep it covered.
[Wendy:] Course they will.
[Joy:] As soon as you let the air in
[Connie:] Oh yeah!
[Wendy:] ... yeah.... I got in my bed the other night it were red hot, I thought ooh God I mustn't put it on too early, you know!... It's alright if you... remember but
[Joy:] Why do you put it on that early?
[Wendy:] Well I put it on early and then somebody will have to come.
[speaker002:] Yeah.
[Connie:] you.... You see... that was supposed to be.
[Wendy:] [LAUGHTER] Yes []!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Connie:] But now, even on television, they say... you and me!
[Wendy:] You and me.
[Joy:] Yeah, oh yeah!
[Connie:] But I mean really the... the grammar... is you and I!
[Joy:] [LAUGHTER] Yeah []!
[Connie:] And every time I hear it, I think well I didn't know I was taught to say you and me.
[Rudy:] No, no Auntie Annie used to be a stickler on
[Connie:] You and I.
[Rudy:] how we talked!
[Joy:] Yeah.
[Rudy:] [LAUGHTER] You know []?
[Joy:] Yeah I know.
[speaker002:] Mind you, I, I dunno I, I mean
[Rudy:] It's only a little thing but... it's shows you how... everything's changed
[Wendy:] Mm.
[Joy:] Well is it
[Rudy:] because
[Joy:] to do with etiquette do you think?
[Rudy:] Well no it's
[Connie:] No, it's just
[Joy:] Well it's like, but it, you always say... oh it's Mr and Mrs, you don't say
[Connie:] Yes.
[Joy:] you don't say it's Mrs and Mr.
[Connie:] No.
[Wendy:] No.
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] But do you?
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] Never write on
[Connie:] No.
[Joy:] an envelope, Mrs and Mr!
[Connie:] No, I suppose Mr
[Joy:] So we always
[Connie:] Yeah.
[Joy:] put the Mr first.
[Connie:] Yeah, esquire.
[Joy:] Yeah esquire.
[Connie:] ... always used to put something