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hours II contrary TO the rules OF the snip te
Sit the booms at all; We were on the centre out
of sight. recollect no other part of the conver-
sation which occurred there. | took the first op-
porsunity that could to make the matter known
| TO Commander Mackenzie Il was about 9 o'clock
at night when | left Dir. Spencer, and he went be-
low to turn in. Il was very light-noonlight |
think, though I will net be sure. I proceeded as
far aft as the cabin, intending TO communicate the
intelligence to Commander Mackenzie, but OBJ
served that Small was watching me closely. See
ing this | turned back and thought I would Try TO
get into the wardroom but there was again put OF
for Spencer put up his head and wanted to know
| what the devil | was about cruising around
there" or something TO that amount Spencer 5
! hammock hung RI sht over the ward-rsom
door and to reach the door had TO pass by it. |
made 70 reply but pretended 10 be getting
into the Purser's stere-room. thea went on the
FIRST deck again. About one hour after went
again to the seerage and found Spencer sill awake
had returned there with the intention OF getting
into the ward-rooun. saw that the lights were
OCT and that the ward-room gentlemen had retired


Ithen iet the matter rest till morning, but did
lot go to sleep, though tried. la the mslnng,
as soon as | could get in, before breakfast, la5out
Z O'Clock l should think, I communicated the
matter 10 Purser Hei.ke!l, and then went on deck
and told the First Lieutenant that the Purssr
wished to see him Immediately in the ward-room-
| merely gave the Purser TO understand that there
was tnutiny on foot, and wished him to get II to
the Commander soon as possible. condensed
| Spencer's statement and went up to the First
Lieutenant of my own accord, for fear the Purser
| would neglect it. I was watched as closely as
possible by Small Cromwell, Wilson, Mckinley
and Spencer, and therefore kept out OF the way OF
the officers as much possible. These men
frequently noticed clubbing together, and believe
they knew was playing them false had no
farther interview with Spencer, though en-.
deavored to do so. He was continually engaged
with the forecastle-man-Benj.F F. Grcen--on the
forerop, so that could not see him. Spencer was
arrested on the evcaing of the 26sh November |
could get no chance previously to talk with him.
Green was an apprentice on board. Spencer was
put in irons, and was Immediately asked ii such
a thing had occurred.


Previous to the arrest of Mr.. Spencer, | had
heard nothing from any of the other men nor mad
any thing to impcate them-attcr my con-
versation with Spencer; though had on the 26th
seen Kim talking with Cromwell Small, Neville,
Wilson ard Mckinley, near the Jacobs ladder
They were all collected together; / was IN the
gangway, and could hear none of their conyersa-
tion which was carried on in the usual tone.


saw Commander Mackenzie and Spencer to-
geiher on the quarter deck just previous TO spen-
GERS arrest. The conversation which occurred
between them, SO far as / recollect, was this
The Commander told hina that he uudcroteod he
(Spencer( aspred 10 the command Of that vessel;
and that he did not know how he could accomplish
his object except by riding over the dead bodies OF
her oticers. heard nothing more of the conversa.
ton except that Mr.. Spencer said Yes, sir, and
then | was sent away to attend 10 getting out
some irons. That all of the conversation
heard. | brought the irons on deck. After they
were brought up conversation took place
Spencer's sword was taken away, and the irons
put Hpon him, to which he appeared willingly
70 submit. At the time the irons were put on,
some of the officers were the quarter deck.
The men were at quarters; the othcers were
all called out-and some of the men, do not re-
coliec. who they were, were stationed at the guns
After he was ironed, Spencer was taken 70 the lar
board arm-chest This was about 6 o'clock,
think-the time for evening quarters. MIR. Spen-
Ger was then alone.


After this I observed dissatisfaction among the
men. When an order was given it had 10 De re-
peated several times, and then they obeyed
it sulenly, if they did not care tarthlng
whether the order executed or not Crom-
we'll, whose hammock was slung next to mine, was
called by some officer 10 go on deck, and went





said The same evening | observed Wilson,
Mckinley and three or four others collected on the
forecasile talking together and when the officers
went toward them they would separate and go TO
other parts of the ship. heard nothing at all of
their conversations. Nothing else occurred that
night, TO my knowledge.


The next day noticed nothing suspicious IN the
conduct of the men, except that they were suriy
about doing their duty This surlineas gene
raj among the men. | think that on that day
Cromwell and Small were put in irons, though |
will not be sure.


After these three were in irons saw that the
crew was disordery. In the morning, while holy
s,onng the deck, beng officer over the prison
ers, observed signs passed between Spencer, Will
son and Mckinley; they put their hands TO their
chins and Cromwell, who was lying on the arm
chest, rose up. | told him my orders were to
shoot him down, and should do 80 If ne did not lie
still. He lay down. I then went back with my
pistol cooked to the launch, where Wilson was
poking about, and found that &c had number OF
the hly-stones out and that he was taking out
hard-spike toid, him that ii | saw him making
any farther signs would blow his brains out. He
said nothing, did not put the hand-spike back bat
went to draw some water. put the handsplke
back rnvself | expressed my fears 10 ComDan-
der Mackenzie and the First. Lieutenant, telling
them thar ,hought it dangerous TO leave the holy.
stones about. as they might be easily used;
went TO the Commander to tell him this. While
Spencer was in irons, near the bat;le-axe rack,
observed him trying how he could work one
moving the axe up and down. Cromwell and smali
were at this time confined. After | told this TO
the First Lieutenant he told it to the Commander
and the battle axes were removed to the arnl-caest
That mornin gWIson, Mckinley, Mckee and Green
missed their muster and congregated round the
stern of the launch The next day at morning