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cant he there; was only told
when got there saw q number collected, dis
suised six OF whom were in q wagon; saw saml Row
ley and Cornelius Miller there. and DR. squires; Jones
Miller gave me the fiddle box and other things; asked
Jonas il there any baggsgeshere belonging to Bed
ing and Boughon; he said he'd go and he went and
returned with Boughten's overcoat then asked him
ha.was all and he said it ali he saw; told him could
not be possible there must be more when he went and
returned with the sword pistols fiddle box and bundle
and gave to me as their baggage; am not positive ne
'old me II was their baggage, but ] believe he did,
had no other horses in the stables my son told me he
was going Smokey Hollow did not at any time say
that II. W. Livingston had offered 500 dollars 70 any
Who would arrest BoughtoD such offer made to
me-nor any other that knew OF by any body never
culiar about the horse pistols don't recoilect whe
ther they had iron wooden ramrcas-or whsther
they had ramrods at ALL there was nothing about the
small pistols than that they small short
bright sbarrelled pistol to make recollect them


there is not that know anything very peculiar about
that dress-ony its an odd figure; am not Judge Of dry
goods don't know the difference between English and
American prints; recoect seeing $50 400 dresses
on oath that there was not twenty like it there that day.
have had that dress two three different times
did not 20 in as Big Thunder but as H. c. Miller; Pm
inclined to think did not speak to any one; believe
Judge H9ganoom and Mr. Gaui wersthere and Attorney
near to at Deckers Vosburghswe were close toge
ther; when got them into the carriage took them to
Rogers, and remained there about Is minntes
in the paror opposite the bar; might have gone out
they remained there; got down about eight O'Clock
II
since except heCour to be examined Belden
very active pert little fellow-that steps round
ORG inches; here is good many Of that size and
| have seen straight men beside hm-some straghter;
there are number of trim built fellows about Hudson
can identify, that is can state what sort Of cap Little
Thunder at Copake and also that of Big Thunder
was nothing lbut skull piece, made out Of mething
very similar but the top of it was full of points Of the
Gothic style; have never them since. AT Copake
Deckers they up to me; Big and Little Thun-
der both did noticed his pistol all the time he
round me; it is that he held the pistol extended
arms length towards both at Deckers. Vosburghs
and Sweets; had not heard there to be antirent
meeting at Sweets; had heard there was people
there to oppose me; there number mentioned;
did not hear there to be any there to oppose
Copake: had been told should probably be resisted in
the sale OF property at Ancram: the route took the
best road and neares there might be about 500 Copske
when went but did not think any thing about where
guse behaved themselves orderly and treated civly


did not converse, know. with any Of them: asked
duty: did not tell Big Thunder and his corps that was
as good an anti renter as any Of them: think say





not going to fight with them have recollection Of
saying that was no more frightened at Deckers than
% not reeoisc Miiisrs saying y s ms sSst' that he
ing no; do not recollect any person asking as to
who knew there; may have said saw the Of Jacob
before not acquainted with him. my impressions
that Big Thunder was not heading the when
think Big Thunder was between the music and the na,
tives, and the music led off into that alley road q
whatever i was; when Big Thunder took the papers
the papers peaceaby they could. forciby he would
not give them up raise their left hands, there
that subject; when said would not give up the
papers until was satisfied they intended TO commit
violence to my person. don't know that there any
thing said at Decker about tar and ieahers told
Big Thunder at Sweets that If they went down to the
Big Of NO such s
Sweets that he would not hair Of my head hurt


The Court here for dinner and met again at two


Sheriff, H. c. Miller, was further cro@examined.-
Deckers at the same times heard Little Thunder speak
hat day. but not he the word Of command and
him at saokey Hollow and in jail that's all Big Thunder
straight about six feet high and strong honey man;
~ and have stood Sgetssr to see which the ss'
saw at Copake that he was man about six feet high;
that height and think there in this house to
whom said before measured ihim in Jail that he
my heigh don't know that thought Of it when stand
ing together; should think from the appearance at CO.
pake was the heaviest man; his face covered; his
mask wet and frozen couple Of inches round his
mouths the day was very cold; never said that reco
lect sawhis whskers and that they sandy; did
not his hair it covered with mask and cap; he
had old fashioned pair of round toed boots either
kip or calf skin think they looked coarse and noticed
believe never that he had half soled boots
hut have he had pair of old fashioned boots
it was never suggested to me to Beldng; have


mentioned to several and at places before arrest
ed Big Thunder that he about my height and spoke
# his boots; Lapham in with once, but do net
ali
did not go with any intention to size him; that
think Big Thunder had not broad yellow stripe in his
dress; from the first time saw him at Copake don 7
think he changed his dress; the only time he of
my sight was as the procession moved from Sweets to
Vcsburgh's; know man named Walter Dorchester;
have said to him that that yellow mask was Big
rhunders; never thought it was; don't mean to
chester about till last night when think told him
the yellow masklresembed the one he had on.


Mr.. .JoRpAN-What did he say2


The AIRY. GENERAL-I object to that question, sir.


CoURr-Thats is objected to, Mr. Jordan.


Mr. JORDAN insist is admissible, is proposed
to show that the sheriff changed his opinion from having
conversed with Dorchester


The CouRr admitted the question ]. put show
uncertainty upon the Sher's opinions the point


Mr.. JoRpAs-what did Dorchester say7


WrrNEs-I think he said Big Thunders mask was a
light colored one said him the frozen about
his mouh long before this conversation took the high.
est mask and the dress thought that he had on;
may may not have drunk with these Indians at Co.
pake; take glass in q while; l may have
taken Of the brandy without saying sny thing;
have recollection of drinking any time that day iii
did drink at all It was only once here this


morning who paid for my dinner any did,
John Lake-he said had nothing to psy he Is good,
didn't pay for any thing Copakej asked nothing about
it; may be still against did net drink Big Thun-
der's health at dinner, and no body drank mine


Direct examination resv,sd-1 may have been at Mcrs
tavern five six minute, my way back; about
dark and the lamps lit II was very cold night; we
only waered horses and came right on; stopped
for the purpose Of watering horses there was a
show there that night some kind Of gathering and
some pretty noisy; once was in the and his
brother dealing out liquor; the driver went in got
something to drink, and then We Immediately came
of together; have, think seen the same boots
that spoke Of DR.. Bougbton since ] arrested
him put the dress merely for my own fun, not to
satisfy the curiosity Of any besides taking notice
to the boots noticed his way Of word in
particular he made Of frequently in his speecheshat
consequently" and he made Of Garrett Smiths
name frequently; noticed his walk very particularly


think hei had gloves on think saw his naked hand
that it him he talked about titles and the hardships
the tenants had to endure


TheArToRNEy GENERALUis proposed to put this dress
If there is any ofths masquerading to be donewe
should like Il to be done now


Mr.. JoRpAr-If he thinks il proper, he may put il on
himself; don't think DR.. Bonghton chooses to do So


Judge PARxERI think is better 10 omit all that there
is necessity for II.


Cross sramiHdfion resumed-When had the disguise on
SEVERAL nersona donI think fhere diE