" August 2008 (UTC) 

 ::::It is interesting to be asked to comment civilly about one's ""obvious hypocrisy"" I haven't accused any individual of being a hypocrite. I am saying, however, that certain actions have been hypocritical without identifying anyone who is responsible for those actions. Let's be candid. There is no consensus for either version, in either article. The fact that a pro-Obama version exists in both articles is due to a certain homesteading, edit-warring, diligent WP:ANI reporting strategy by the editors who like it that way. They have camped out here. If you think I'm talking about you and the shoe fits, wear it. They don't have consensus. They have a slender majority. As it happens, both of these articles are exactly the way I would write them if I was Jon Carson, Obama's campaign manager.   22:36, 28"