I have been playing Valley courses for 20+ years and Aguila since it opened 10+ years ago.  As someone that used to sleep in a car to play Papago and get to Agula by 4:00 AM to get a ticket I know what it's like to be a die-hard golfer.  As I'm now a father of 2 and don't feel like spending that much time to actually get a tee time I play around 8:00 now most weekends.  The past few times I played the Aguila 18 took more than 4 and a half hours.  I'm a fast player and waiting on EVERY shot isn't my idea of a fun round.  There wasn't a ranger any of these times.  The last ranger I encountered there waa an idiot anyways.  We ended up with a 5-some ahead of us holding us up every hole.  When I saw him on 10 tee and told him about it he joked and said \"oh those guys do that all the time\".  I asked that one of them be removed from the course but his solution was to split them into a 2-some and 3-some.  Oh yeah make 2 groups out of 1.  Real intelligent and a great way to speed things up.  So, while I truly love the women that work there and they have treated me as a friend for many years, I will not play there again and will gladly pay more to play elsewhere. \nI guess if you have 1/2 day to kill playing in 100+ heat you may enjoy the layout but the greens are slower than death.  I'm sure you will have time to notice that.