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 == Mmbabies == 

 Not to revive contraversy or anything, but I'm still noticing what I would like to call ""personal attacks"" on the Mmbabies page uncensored. Not that I'm looking for a fight or anything, but I just don't think it's fair, whenever anyone has made an attack at Mmbabies it's been bleeped. Not to bite at Rio or anything, but if you look carefully, I think you'll see a lot of the ""superhero"" style on Rio's part, not mine. For instance, it was him that said ""Hey dude, thanks for doing that. I was researching info about that idoit boy people tried to file reports and where declined to help. Man dude you finally stop this prick from his games. Thanks for all your help. You may have stoped one of the wrost Wikipedian vandal in history. Oh it should be added in the books; that user:rio de oro , and user:GO-PCHS-NJROTC stoped user:Mmbabies from making threats aganist people. Thanks for all your help man"" and ""Spread the word that Mmbabies is gone from here"" on my talk page, not me (see Archive 3). Immediately after, I mentioned barnstars, but that was just a question out of curiosity, nothing else. There's been many other vandals just as bad or worse than this fool, I realize this. Also notice that I told Rio ""Don't get your hopes too high, we don't really know yet. Lets wait and see what happens."" I don't feel that I have had that uper hero attitude; I've known for two years that abuse reporting is messy business, there's a 50-50 chance that an ISP will totally blow a person off. The same applies to government agencies. Why sure, I've played along with Rio and his overreaction a little bit; I think he's been trying to contribute in good faith, so I've been trying to comply with WP:BITE on the matter because of his intention to help, not hinder, but I've always known some of what he's been doing crosses the line (and not the equator either, get it?). Now I don't want to take sides (or tick anyone off at me), but I don't think it's fair for you to associate me with his actions when all I've been doing is acting within the guidelines set out by WP:BOLD, especially after I left comments like ""Seriously Rio de Oro, you can't go sayin' crap about the hackers like that. I think all hackers and spammers should be fed to the alligators, but I never (well, never say never) make attacks (other than the usual, acceptable vandal fighting) at them. It gives them too much joy, and hacker/spammer joy is a mess. If you're gonna threaten vandals, at least try to be civil about it (like me, try using the {whois} template) and make it more of a promise, not a threat, because threats are for Mmbabies and LBHS Cheerleader, not vandal fighters."" and ""It's because everyone knows Mmbabies is full of BS."" Once again, I don't want to point the finger at Rio or anything, but one of the big reasons I made such a big deal out of the case is because of constant pushing from him; I had slowed to just simply reporting new IPs to abuse AT att DOT net, but people have been really beating up on me to try to get the FBI and the police to tell me what was going on, which I know would have just encouraged them to ignore us and ignore me on all future cases as I've done that with similar cases and they already told me they don't diclose information on their cases, so I came up with the creative plan (which worked) to complain to the Better Business Bureau; I figured that would force an answer from AT&T; which would calm the rage a little bit. Now I was uncertain myself about contacting the news, that's why I proposed it instead of jumping in immediately. I wanted to reserve that as a last resort, I knew I had to do something or I'd never hear the end of the constant pressure. At times, I regret even getting involved in this one, it's been a bit of a circus, especially recently. I say, we (we?) need to start that Mmbabies page with completely clean, delete the talk page and the main page (this removes the logs, which I think give this troll too much glory as is), rewrite the main page, removing any unneeded trivial information, ban Rio and I from it if you desire, and keep a look out for not only AT&T; socks, but socks from other Houston, Texas ISPs as well as he'll be returning on another ISP if he returns. Just as R. Baley said to me, you should realize who your ""friendlies"" are; I'm on your side if you're here to fight IC (internet crime), and I think the ""superhero"" comments is kind of like ""friendly fire.""   "