Context: My wife was able to get a job with Microsoft, and she didn't even need a 4-year degree!
Speaker 1: My wife was able to get a job with Microsoft without going to a four-year college!
Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing. She must be skillful regardless.
Speaker 1: She really is. It just shows that you don't need to have a four-year degree in order to be successful.
Speaker 2: Yea, experience and skills matter a lot more.