Look! I m trying to get these bet the ranch or raise antenna "before" the flop! Which I find both irritating and stupid!! Inevitably the moron who bet before the flop "CHECKS" every time after & usually LOSES!! The damage is to the other players that jump in!! Like I've said! I've watched this a hundred times!! Right after everyone bets half the ranch before they even SEE what thier cards ARE? They always start "checking" every damn TIME!! Why not simply ante up as the game is designed & Then A