some things might sound extreme but having known people who raised their kids extreme catholic it can sometimes truly be abuse you are a faggot and god hates you youre going to hell and i no longer have a son sexuality is bad these were quotes i heard from the mouths of several different christianscatholics in my lifetime directed at their own children just as there are violent people in any walk of life but i have never seen anything about dawkins or harris that made me go oh shit these people be cray cray