they are right in the price range they should be the z is a good starter sports car i have done alot of research as i am very interested and might be financially ready to grab one soon early burn oil its just a thing the de motors do also problems with synchros on some of these years i believe late is the year to get as they have the hr motor which has a extra k rpm to wrap out and they solved all the tranny and burning oil problems also im pretty sure the des put down to the crank and hrs put something like to the crank in wa i see s go for k and later s go for k the lower the miles go