i can only provide my limited experience our daughter has been on wrestling teams for years starts mma this summer she is now in the th grade a few months ago while at a park two boys one in th and one in th grabbed her friend my daughter submitted both of them i wasnt there but others were and they said it was no contest the kids just had no idea how to respond to trained fighting at all unfortunately these are the two neighborhood bullies and they are absolutely awful now they dont dare put there hands on our kids but they do call my daughter a tranny from a safe distance