This is something that's really bothering me, namely this concept that Narcissits get worse with talk therapy, and it's an "Untreatable condition" They are just broken! How frustrating"

And therein lies the stupidity, because therapists becomes frustrated getting narcissits to focus on themselves, and instead deal with the narcissists own projections and superficial mannerisms, But here's my so OBVIOUS oberservation of why this frustrates therapists - It's a reflection of their own ego at play and they can't STAND that they don't understand human nature better.

The REALITY is, to anyone suffering with narcissism, is what we need to be/ want to be talking about is our original traumas. The traumas that made us so fucking disgustingly masterbatutory by nature. 

Therapists fail to ask the obvious question "Why are you so self focused?"

To which I might answer "No one loves me" or, "This person did this to me"

But MOST therapists, are too critical and not skilled enough to get that inner child to communicate it's diaologue on those key points.

I know it's a bit idealistic because some narcissists would be immiediatly anatgonistic to such a question, especially if they are very unstable, but I don't think that in the right environment with the right amount of trust, someone wouldn't be approachable to talk about those things.

So am I being overly idealistic in here in thinking I can be healed? Or are those IMMENSE pains I suffered my entire fucking life due to narcissitic tendencies finally actually fading?

I'd really like to think it's possible, to stop fighting against pain, to just accept it, and therefore, not have to fight the world, and fight people that I deep down love, and ultimately cause my own self destruction. It's that fight against pain that drives the ego and narcisstic tendencies and I know there's a way to get to the point where I could resolve it if I could just talk from a strong, accountable, alert position. Maybe this is what narcissists strive for in their conflict. Maybe this is why, so that they can be heard as adults, and talk from that conscious perspective about their traumas and be trusted and actually accepted.

I think everytime we act out of self hatred we make it worse, and everytime we act out of self nurturance we make it better.