Hello everybody.

I have been doing some thinking about posting this for a while but never did.

Due to all the depression and suffering that goes on in the world do you think having kids is joyous and miraculous?

I feel it can be but is also a very selfish decision to make. The "we want kids" kids stuff I hear sometimes I think to myself I'm miserable and didn't ask to be born as far as I know so is wanting kids one of the most wonderful things or is it just selfish if you get turfed out when you are a certain age and expected to fend for yourself or when something doesn't go to plan and the child has other difficulties I list below.

It may be an unpopular view but I have asked myself this when I'm feeling down and if you want kids should they not be your responsibility for life? If you can't guarantee they will be happy then it is a mistake that they have to live with.

Then when they feel down or feeling like they may harm themselves they get told they are selfish which I don't always agree with.
Sure many don't mean it and have turned lives around but sometimes they make you feel guilty you are forced to live unhappily in order to satisfy them.

I don't know which is more selfish and sorry I don't mean to rub anyone up the wrong way but it's how I have felt when I have been really low and then family turns on me.

I thought about it more when my brother wanted kids but ended up with a child with severe autism he gets very little back in communication and he must be gutted. It isn't going to be good for my nephew or my brother/ family going forward and I don't know now.

Life is unfair to good people sometimes and sucks from both sides but I don't know.

Hopefully this doesn't come across in the wrong way it's just I can't help thinking life is cruel sometimes.