So basically yesterday I was with a group of friends. Let me name the party members involved (names changed for safety.) Jay,Dee,and Emilia.So we were chilling and (place also changed) we were indoors at a McDonalds. So while we were all eating and enjoying our food,Jay mentions how at some point in his life,he wanted to commit suicide. Dee suddenly interrupts and loudly says for all of us to hear "I THINK SUICIDE IS SELFISH." I decided to respond and said,well,yes it can be (can being subjective but I also said that so hopefully they'd tone it down...) (I know I'm spineless...) and said,but do you ask why do people get to the point of feeling suicidal? Dee then mentions how he thinks people who commit suicide that believe no one cares,are selfish because at least one person does. I said,I understand that,but people become suicidal from depression generally. Depression at least,from how i see it,isn't entirely us. I think of depression as something that rewires our brain and how we feel. We tunnel vision and think no one cares when people do. Then,cue today, I was talking with Emilia about what happened yesterday and when Dee had a sudden outburst. Emilia said she agreed with Dee to an extent because she believes suicidal people don't care about other people's feelings. Everyone (I've heard at least,just me) generally say suicidal people dont care or think about our feelings. But what about how the suicidal people feel. I just got upset because people tend to use "selfish" in a negative connotation. I was just dumbfounded when Dee said that and when I started countering their argument,everyone got quiet. I'm just at a loss. 