text: The tension inherent in this situation can only last so long and it's likely to come out after the next election as the Lib Dems are butchered as the Iraq protest vote fades and Cameron's image compares favourably with their leader's.
  Chunder- heartening to hear that you can't advocate "hand-on-heart" that folk vote BNP but really it is rather worrying that it is being touted as an alternative. I was reading the Telegraph the other day and they were canvassing whether people would vote BNP instead of Labour and some of the replies were along the lines of "now you come to mention it..." Aaargh. Surely no-one the correct side of Atilla the Hun would advocate that these racists should have any power in our society but the question seems to elicit an answer the Telegraph is gagging to hear- that people are becoming more "rightist"
  On the Lib Dem front they seem to be caught in third party spot forever. I'll moan and groan about the aspects of Labour I dislike (i.e. the fact they are Tories in disguise, opening up schools to faith based idiologues, the unconditional support of the preent American regime yadda yadda) but come election time if there is a danger my Lib Dem vote would allow the Tories in I will probably shirk my gut instinct and vote Labour again. The LIbs are caught of being always a wastedvote because so many think they are a wasted vote.
  Meanwhile, please don't suggest that the fascist, racist, violent, lunatic scum in the BNP are an alternative to anything but democracy and civil society.
  People won't vote for the Lib Dems because they are gay and that Kennedy bloke was a drunkard. And they're hippies or something. And we don't know much about them.
  Whereas the BNP are Decent Pub-going Blokes and wow, are those statistics really true? I guess there really are too many brown people in England! Britain never shall be slaves -- oi oi!! Stuff the PC idiots and Euro fanatics who want to take away our pints and pounds!
  "Sleaze has become the hallmark of the dying days of this administration" - Tony Blair just before the 1997 election
  It's why Labour has become what it has. They know you are so afraid of another Thatcher that you'll take just about anything from Blair.
  Blair knows this. So, for that matter, does Gordon Brown. Why should they listen to you? You're telling them that they'll get your vote as long as it means the Tories won't be the government.
  Ideally, you need a coalition government, but if you can't manage that, you have to let the government know that you *will* vote them out if they get out of line. If you keep promising to elect them -- which is what you do when you talk about "Anyone But Tory" and then wave off the idea of voting LibDem -- why will they try to earn your vote? They already have it!
  That's not quite right. My real fear is of another Howe, Lawson, Major or Lamont. Remember those guys? The Thatcher Chancellors. Remember how the eighties and nineties were just one economic crisis after another, how your mates didn't have jobs and those did lived in terror of the boot, how it went on, and on, and on.
  If you don't remember all of that, and I guess most people here don't - then throwing rocks at Labour probably feels smart and cool.
  Noseplug? Labour have become captive to producer interests, the Treasury, the Americans, the Army and the Police. Surprised? Really?
  Do you think for a minute that Cameron or Campbell would be any different? At least our guys can count.
  But the Labour treasurer and deputy leader had no idea about clandestine multi-milllion pound loan deals to the party, so that would suggest that some of "your guys" are busy doing the counting in shadowy back rooms.
  It's going to take at least one very messy and unsatisfactory election to get the lib Dems anywhere near power. Firstly they will need to be part of a coalition, and they have already stated that they are not willing to do so unless they are far more than a useful way to make up the numbers, then they will need to prove that they have a steady hand when it's on the wheel.
  
  Metal Roof to look similar ...: "I am remodeling a home that has a 3:12 built ..." - Guest User (2/1/2008) | Roofing Styles | Archive | Metal Roofing Alliance Forum
  I am remodeling a home that has a 3:12 built up gravel roof. The owner is wanting to see if anyone makes a metal roofing product that look like a gravel built up roof. Do you know of any manufacturers that make a metal roof product that looks like gravel? any help would be appreciated
  There are stone-coated tile roofs out that can be used at 3:12 pitch. Look at Metro and Gerard as possible suppliers.
  
  Unless you’re a total loser with no friends or any compelling reason to walk the Earth, you are no doubt aware that this morning, after months and months of teases, Slipknot finally released NEW MASKS!!!! (Also, a new song, but no one cares about that.) Since this is inarguably the single most important cultural event of 2019, we thought we’d do a deep dive and take a real close look at the ‘Knot’s new masks to see what we can see. Join us, won’t you?
  The Design: Creepy-looking perv in a hood. It’s fairly recognizable as Wilson; it seems likely it was modeled after his actual face, like the death masks the band sometimes used back in the Subliminal Verses days. Also, there are either multiple versions of the mask, or otherwise it has a great deal of mobility in the mouth, because in some images he seems to be gritting his teeth, while in others he’s open-mouthed and slack-jawed, like he’s baked and in hour seventeen of a Twin Peaks binge.
  Analysis: This is the least disguise-y of all the new Slipknot masks, and maybe of any Slipknot mask from any era, period. It’s creepy, sure, but it also says, “Hey, this is what I look like, if you ever see me chillin’ at Quizno’s and wanna take a picture together, that’s cool.”
  The Design: A slight variation on the same jester design Root has always used. As was the case with his Gray Chapter mask, the lower jaw is cut open, leaving the mouth exposed; as has been the case since at least Subliminal Verses, the right eye has a swirly thinger that connects to his lips.
  What the Mask “Says”: “I’m not afraid to be creative, but, I mean, let’s not go nuts here or anything.”
  The Design: Pretty much the same Pinhead-Meets-The-Gimp-From-Pulp Fiction mask Jones has always used. There are ever-so-slight variations — the spikes at the top of his head are longer than the ones on the sides, the finish is shinier, etc. — but 99.999% of everyone will never be able to tell the difference.
  Analysis: Jones has made a living for two decades basically standing still and hitting buttons every so often, and he seems to spend roughly eight, maybe ten seconds tops redesigning his mask each album cycle. This man basically retired at 27. Good for him.
  What the Mask “Says”: “Look, fuckers, there are only so many ways you can re-design a clown.” Only it’s Clown saying it, so it would probably come out more like, “How do you revolutionize the ultimate entertainer? I am everything and nothing. I am the alpha and the omega. Clowns have to look a certain way but a certain way they must also look. My nose is the center of the universe, known or unknown. We’re gonna burn the very idea of music to the ground until we build it back up again.” Or something.
  Analysis: Look, I get that there are only so many ways you can re-design a clown. But surely, there are cooler options than this. What if the nose had beady eyes and big teeth, like a Killer Tomato or something? And that’s just off the top of my head!
  What the Mask “Says”: “I’ve been stabbed in the head by my own brother. Have you ever been stabbed in the head by your own brother? Have you ever been stabbed in the head at all? No? Then fuck off, lil’ miss. I ain’t changin’ shit.”
  Analysis: I have never been stabbed in the head, so I do not feel qualified to offer Mr. Thomson any criticism, positive or otherwise. (Mick please don’t hurt me.)
  The Design: It’s got the open nose and mouth of the All Hope is Gone-era Corey mask, the Daryl Hannah-in-Blade Runner black strip of paint over the eyes, and Corey now appears to be favoring a haircut modeled after Leatherface from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
  Analysis: Taylor hired legendary make-up artist Tom Savini to design to this mask, and his money could not have been more wasted. This isn’t the least creative update of the bunch (see: Craig Jones and Mick Thomson), but it’s certainly the most anti-climactic. I’m always loathe to criticize Corey Taylor, seeing as he is undoubtedly God’s most glorious creation, but this is a real letdown IMO.
  What the Mask “Says”: “On the last album cycle, they didn’t let me do anything cool with my mask. This time, I get the coolest mask. So ppppfffftttt!”
  Analysis: The upturned pig nose seems like a clear tribute to Paul Gray, whose masks often had a swiney quality to them, if they weren’t just outright modeled after a pig. But generally speaking, the design calls to mind a samurai warrior mask. Venturella definitely wins this round of the “Coolest Slipknot Mask” sweepstakes.
  The Design: I’m not even sure how to describe this. It’s like a cross between a Paul Gray Subliminal Verses-era mask (note the similarities in mouths, noses, and finishes) and a Joey Jordison All Hope is Gone-era mask.
  The Design: It’s very similar to the design Weinberg and Venturella were made to wear when they first joined the band for The Gray Chapter: decaying sackcloth skin, zipper mouth, etc.