text: US to train 750 Ukraine troops as "Russian aggression" continues - Page 20 - Stormfront
  03-24-2015, 11:24 AM #191
  I agree with everything you said but this is not necessarily about winning , but about saving face. Ukraine is too much to lose without at least some resistance from the NATO.
  Losing face at global scene equate losing billions $.
  03-24-2015, 11:30 AM #192
  I agree with you, totally understand but here is my point again - NATO ALREADY surrendered to Russia on Ukraine when they refused Ukraine entry - the only reason to refuse Ukraine entry was because Russia had the power and they didn't want to go to war for Ukraine.
  Here is another point - the economic elites of the USA and Europe control nearly 50% of the wealth while being 1% of the population. They literally do not care who does their labor or who they pay - if Mexicans or Arabs come and do the jobs cheaper they are 100% in favor of that.
  If they feel that way then why should whites feel any loyalty toward them? They are 1% of the population, they may have the money but they do not have the numbers, why should I care if Russia owns Ukraine if they are still selling natural gas and oil to the place I live at the same price? If the elite have no loyalty to me then why should I have loyalty to them?
  The economic elite are stirring up conflict all over the world while trying to displace their own workers at home. Loyalty works both ways - why should workers in the USA or Europe have any loyalty to the economic elite in their countries that own so much? They want to go fight I say have at it - no ones stopping them from picking up a gun and going to fight. If they are willing to sell me out for 50 cents an hour why shouldn't I sell them out for 50 cents an hour? Most workers never even meet the main boss of their business never mind the main boss of their country, what do they care who is running the place?
  I see training 750 troops as a huge waste of money that can ONLY prolong a conflict that should end, that's all.
  03-24-2015, 11:33 AM #193
  750 won't go very far. 10% off for friendly fire so it leaves 675
  03-24-2015, 11:50 AM #194
  Loyalty works both ways - why should workers in the USA or Europe have any loyalty to the economic elite in their countries that own so much?
  I agree with you 100 %. What american and the world needs is new socialist policy in economy.
  Now before some start screaming , I am NOT suggesting USSR "socialism". Private property and wealth should be sacred , while it was not the case in USSR where people lost their fairly earned possessions.
  But when I say private property , I suggest moderate even richer , up to 5-10 million $. Why one need to own 5 BILLION $ while THOUSANDS of white working class can not feed their own families by hard honest work?
  Something is rotten there. White worker middle class is destroyed while to be fair what should be destroyed is enormously rich the upper echelon elite which control 90 % of the money which they accumulated by the UNFAIR monopoly they control.
  03-24-2015, 11:51 AM #195
  Capitalists don't measure war in wins or losses, they measure it in money spent.
  These 750 soldiers are no different than 750 gallons of milk - maybe they'll be sold but probably half of them will be thrown out at a loss. They accept this and its not their lives or money they're spending.
  If they prolong a war where billions of dollars of weapons are manufactured and sold then they view that as a victory because that is all they care about, money.
  03-24-2015, 11:52 AM #196
  03-24-2015, 11:56 AM #197
  Strange but one of my best friends are Russian. She received the flat they lived in under communism as a property. It is worth a lot of money.
  03-24-2015, 12:05 PM #198
  This is hybrid war. Putin is a coward, he unleashed the conflict in Ukraine, but decided to disguise this under the "rebellion". Although we know very well that this "revolt" organized Hirkin-Strelkov - FSB member.
  That is, this hybrid war of Russia against Ukraine.
  All allegations of "white nationalists" that Ukrainian nationalists sponsored by Jews - just ridiculous. Ukrainian Army and National Guard sponsored by Ukrainian government, business (I'm sure all nationalities living in Ukraine) and ordinary citizens (including the Ukrainian diaspora).
  For example, businessman from annexed Crimea purchased jeeps for Azov.
  The war will end when Putin will take his troops and stop supplying weapons. Then a year later, it will release the film in which he will tell everyone how he personally gave orders troops to enter Donbass. But it will be then. Now there is a war. Murder of White Ukrainians. And it`s Putin and his clowns kill them.