text: Crew welds 200 plates to Building for 3 months "almost unknown", page 8
  posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 05:24 PM
  Again, not everyone in this thread has stated that.
  You'd think I might be pretty aware of that given my previous post on this thread, wouldn't you say?
  My business is in lower michigan.
  Would you say the area is urban, suburban, rural, or what? What size buildings are we talking and what kinds of companies? Mom-and-pop stuff? You have to give me more to go on.
  Thank you jfj for your response, and thank you griff as well. The fibre optic patent I posted is virtually unknown--but very real--and shows just how easy it is to subvert the commonplace to nefarious ends, which is the point of bsbray's posting about the retrofit of Citicorp tower here.
  Both underscore how easy it is to deceive, if that is your end. And having read through the thread attentively, numerous posts by those dealing with building security (or the lack thereof) only reinforce this point.
  jfj, going beyond the words of thanks, which are truly appreciated as we've often been at odds on this board, I do want to stress that this information shows only the tip of the proverbial iceberg of what is possible if you have the means and the funding and the professionalism necessary to plan such an operation.
  This is just a crumb that fell off the table. The rhetorical "How could they have actually done it?...Prove it" is in fact actually quite easy to answer, and it has been provided in this thread. Take the sum of the wisdom of human fallibility and inattention (and the massive scale--and thus divided and easily compromised security of the WTC) documented in many posts here on one hand, combine it with the "crumb" I discovered, and you have an entirely plausible--even elegant--answer to the mechanics of wiring the towers unobtrusively.
  It is quite obvious that this could have been done by workers who thought they were just laying another set of cables, oblivious to their actual intended use. Innocents, just doing their jobs. All signed off, no balking, no questions. All "legit." And as griff noted, no detcord in the rubble pile, either.
  Simple, elegant, and evil.
  im not talking about supervisors at all.
  im talking about regular normal people who are inquisative and alert that work in the building. if i see a work van or crew in the area (the network extends outside of the building) i will go and talk to them and find out what they are doing and where and if need be inspect what they are doing. i will also talk to them every day that they are around.
  Anywhere from single story office buildings up. Some of the largest buildings in MI.
  Private offices, medical buildings, R&D firms for the automakers, etc...
  I'm not going to give you names of specific businesses so don't ask.
  posted on Feb, 3 2009 @ 05:42 PM
  This is just a crumb that fell off the table. The rhetorical "How could they have actually done it?...Prove it" is in fact actually quite easy to answer,
  I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit, as you're the only one to answer the question with anything more then guesses of how it could have been done.
  Thanks for stepping up and answering the questions with good solid info.
  For the record, I don't care where the truth takes me. I just want the truth. If, as it turns out, it was an inside job, then it is what it is and those people need to answer for their crimes.
  You misread my post; I was not referring to you.
  Now you were telling me you are how attentive?
  If you're wearing coveralls and a hard hat people don't think there is anything suspicious.
  However, people would have noticed the workmen during this time period. Afterwords, there would be numerous accounts of the "workers" in their areas.
  So, I'm still not buying this. It is possible but I think that there would be many more witnesses reporting the unknown workers.