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  Posts 9,344	Druid Tier 15 and Season 13 Preview, AskMrRobot Upgrade, Dec 21 Hotfixes, Blue Posts
  Keep in mind that this is just a preview and the final sets may be different! AskMrRobot Gear Upgrade Support
  AskMrRobot now supports gear upgrades, making it possible to easily optimize your gear once again! They are also working on adding a feature that tells you which items to upgrade, as some slots will gain more from an upgrade than others. For the full details on what has changed and what is upcoming, see this blog post. Patch 5.1 Hotfixes - December 21
  Shan Kien will now respawn properly.The quest "What's in the Box?" can now always be completed properly.
  It is no longer possible to loot more than one Ancient Pandaren Mining Pick.Stackable Stags are now love peace (and stacking), and are friendly to all.
  The achievements You Mean That Wasn't a Void Zone?, Incredible Hulk, Kill It With Fire! and Lightning Struck can now be completed normally.Shan Kien's Sha Grasp ability is now properly removed from player pets.Classes
  So, basically, you want to go back to the Cataclysm model (where dungeons are the source of rewards for several avenues). The very same model the developers have said several times they would like to move away from. And on top of that, you want to get rid of a feature of the game... just because. You don't really seem to take into consideration that there's people that actually enjoy running dailies and they'd rather not have to do dungeons ad nauseam (there're players that feel the opposite, as well, as this thread proved).
  You have two talent specializations. Why not have one for DPS? Even if it's a different healing spec, do you really need it at every single moment of the day? It's your choice to go with two healing specs, and that obviously comes with a downside (just as a tank that decides to go with two different tanking specs and argues his DPS is low on that content). Proceeding to argue that because you run with a dual healing spec there's no content you can do is not going to get you very far because the answer is simple: use a DPS spec for that content.
  If you are arguing that it's bad design that you're expected to do damage to defeat your foes (which is what you do on daily quests and scenarios) then I have the feeling we're just disagreeing on a fundamental level: what makes this game an (MMO)RPG. You can't heal your foes to death (at least not yet), so if you don't want to DPS but want to do dailies, nothing short of divine intervention will help you solve your case. It really sounds like we just disagree on the most fundamental level: how the game should be played on its most basic level. The real question here is - If endgame daily content is only beeing created for 1 role of 3 in the game... what effect does it have on the overall role balance in the game? Are there too many tanks in LFD ? Are there lines of Healers waiting in LFR ? No... and you wonder why?- When the endgame every day grind content is focused for DPS?
  Has there ever been daily quests that didn't involve damaging something? (Yes, there's always been quests that require you to gather items, which is still the case). You're trying to relate queue times to daily quest design, but you can't really compare apples to oranges. Some players might not change their spec to do their dailies, but some will actually use their dps off-spec to go through them quicker. In a world of Dual Talent Specs, NPCs giving you green quality gear to start your off-spec, there's not much reason to say you can't do that content other than *actively* refusing to use the tools at your disposal to make the most out of the game. Forcing them to go spend time per week doing totally and utterly meaningless daily content in sub par dps gear is just a disgrace.
  You can enter a scenario and heal if that's what you want. Same deal with a tank. It's just not required to complete them, but the game is not going to penalize your group for it. (If anything, both cases might allow more reckless play from the two DPS). 2) Daily Quests - I am not the only healer in WoW so place healing daily quests in the game.
  But to be honest I think we would see some sort of reversed undercutting between buyers. Let's imagine for example:
  Still I think this is a good idea and I'm probably exaggerating a bit when I speculate about the possible consequences. We just need to make sure that ideas are sound before we spend resources on them, we need to be sure that not only they would work, but that enough players would actually benefit and experience better gameplay because of it. I'll share the suggestion with the devs, but I suspect this isn't something new to them, we'll see. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
  Posts 16,041	Wait, people are complaining about not being able to kill stuff in dailies as a non-dps spec? O.O What the hell has this "community" come to....
  Posts 5	LOVE the T15, but the S13?! Wth? Just what we need.. a skull in the crotch. >.<
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 06:20 PM
  Posts 89	The patience of the blue on those blue posts is beyond 9000. :b
  Earning even the smallest bit of penny there. Respect!
  Posts 869	that druid season 13 looks incredible, the belt OMG :O
  Posts 526	Do people really like these massive shoulders? They get more ridiculous every tier. Also omfg there is a spider in it. I'll have to start using transmog if I get them. There is no way I could handle having a spider on me.
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 06:27 PM
  Posts 515	Why are they so hellbent on making us go out into the world? It's almost like we're in an art exhibition and the artists there are forcing our eyes open and holding our heads in the direction of their art.
  Posts 396	am i reading that correctly? they nerfed _normal_ elegon?
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 06:44 PM
  Posts 503	Originally Posted by zrankfappa
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 06:50 PM
  Posts 877	Originally Posted by Jin84
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 07:16 PM
  Posts 5,720	"I hate dailies! Having to grind the same things over and over rep for gear is just crap! Bring back a more fun system, where I can wear a tabard and grind the same things over and over for rep for gear!"
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 07:49 PM
  Posts 481	Can we get the tier models shown on female toons? Sometimes the armor looks different on females rather than males so it would be beneficial to see both sexes model the armor.
  Posts 8,697	Guy wants to heal not DPS, Guy wants to be able to do what HE enjoys in a game not be forced into a role he doesn't. I kind of understand where he is coming from. The blue flat out says "get a dps spec" not really in line with "play your way" is it? After you have 463+ Heroics are pointless except for valor and personal enjoyment. Raids are typically done 3 or 4 nights a week with a guild. Leaving this guy little to do. Really dis like the "charms are not needed" line also, any serious raided will feel compelled to get them every week. Obviously its optional as is EVERYTHING in this game.
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 08:31 PM
  Posts 819	Some of those complaints are just completely retarded...
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 08:42 PM
  Posts 2	Originally Posted by Priestiality
  Reply With Quote 2012-12-23, 08:44 PM
  Posts 6,158	That blue just burned that person lol. Good on them.
  Posts 14,632	Originally Posted by IIamaKing
  All healers still have basic DPS abilities. So like always, you can either do the content at your leisure, or go the extra mile and expedite the process. In this case, it would be by using another talent spec. Really dis like the "charms are not needed" line also, any serious raided will feel compelled to get them every week. Obviously its optional as is EVERYTHING in this game.