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  Initial post: 14 May 2011 17:13:24 BDT
  Anil Antony says:
  We are expecting our first baby in early July and are in the process of going thru the 'buying' phase to give him a grant reception into this world! :o)We have bought a Maxi Cosi Carbio Fix car seat + Family fix base based on reviews on AmazonWe are now looking to buy a pram that is easy to use, safe, reasonably light and value for money and it seems that Maxi Cosi does not provide one. Three queries:1. Can we use the Maxi Cosi car seat only in the car and manage with a totally different brand for the pram (stroller + carry cot)2. It also seems that adapters are available to fit the Maxi Cosi car seat to other brands like Emmaljunga, Britax etc. Any recommendations are welcome3. Finally Being located in Finland, wading thru the snow is a major consideration in winter. Should we go for prams that have larger wheels? Does that make things easier?
  No In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2011 21:17:17 BDT
  L Duffy says:
  The Maxi Cosi Caribo Fix and the Pebble both fix to the Quinny Buzz and the Bugaboo Camelon. My friends got the bugaboo and ended up buying a Quinny as it was lightweight, easy to collapse and a nice size for car boots. Plus the wheels detach if needed. We went straight for the Quinny Buzz, it is so easy to manouver about (My baby boy was born in October and we had some big snow falls after that) The Quinny buzz is 3 wheels but there is an adapter which can make it 4 wheels. The carry cot comes separately we didnt get the cot as it was winter and the only trips i made were to the supermarket round the corner. We went to mothercare and got the advice and test drived both the bugaboo and the Quinny (the quinny was better for offroading, potholes etc)
  No Posted on 15 May 2011 00:48:16 BDT
  april preston says:
  I use a bugaboo frog and maxicosi car seat, its amazing off road and is great for ease of use. Only down side is with a travel system when your baby has outgrown it thats it, you cant use the car seat/pram combo any longer than that, which is a great shame
  No Posted on 15 May 2011 23:20:38 BDT
  hi, im also due soon and have been reviewing and searching for months.....been a nightmare! But we decide that a maxi cosi car seat, would suit us. One reason as its the lightest we have seen, So if you do a lot of in and out the car i thought this would be more suitable. The Maxi Cosi Caribo adapters do fit with quite a few different style buggies (icandy peach, quinny buzz, mama and papa sola) i know of. As for getting a travel system we were very close to paying out loads for one but right at the last minute changed our minds, reasons; For us we thought how often are we going to take the car seat out and use with the buggy , bearing in mind that a child can only stay in a car seat, the guide says no more than 2 hours. Also the travel system's are huge in size (when folded) compared to umbrella folds so again if you are in and out via the car then you have got to remember that you are the one lifting, packing,folding in and out the car.Plus any shopping which might take up the boot space.If of course if you walk a lot and don't drive so much then....maybe it might suit you more, having a travel system. Like the comment above, the use of the car seat/buggy is only for a short time too so that something to bare in mind. We decided on a maclaren which is, i hope will be more suitable for us, light weight, will last for a few years, small enough to fit in the boot and perfect for shops. I have read that many people that have brought a travel system end up buying a second buggy, so if you have the cash then that's fine. As for getting a buggy for off road, i know the mama and papa sola got good reviews on 'which' over 80% for a okay travel system off road. But im not 100% sure as i never owned one.If you travel a bit in the snow i would assume that bigger wheels (3 wheeler's) would be better, like a Phil and Ted. We kind of decided that if we were to travel any where off road, which the buggy wouldn't be able to cope with we thought a sling/baby carrier would be much better than trying with a buggy.Thats my opinion anyway, and at this stage im not sure if im correct in what i say, only time will tell. Good luck!!
  No Posted on 17 May 2011 12:10:03 BDT
  Bobs42 says:
  I recently bought a cabrio fix car seat and the faimly fix base. I also bought an oyster travel system. The cabrio fix fits in it with adaptors perfectly. Off road travel was a consideration for us, we chose the oyster as it was light, very easy to turn and you could lock the front wheels straight so they didn't spin around in the heavy stuff. Also changing out the car seat, to stroller to lay flat cot was the click of one button, as was folding down or putting up. The next size up Maxi cosi car seat also fits on the oyster frame.
  No Posted on 17 May 2011 15:31:10 BDT
  For my first child I bought 3 systems and was not really pleased with any. For my 3 months old baby I got the Quinny and cannot recommend it enough, it is brilliant, with the right balance stability v weight and excellent manouvrability.
  No Posted on 17 May 2011 20:21:33 BDT
  Hackney2011 says:
  Phil & Teds Verve Baby Buggy & Double Kit - Full BlackHi - I recently bought the new Phil and Teds verve which I would definitely recommend for off road action!
  No Posted on 19 May 2011 08:30:03 BDT
  Drbryony says:
  I have the maxicosi car seat and quinny buzz pram. The quinny is fantastic, easy to use, lightweight, has large wheels which are great for off roading and difficult conditions - i managed to take it for a woodland forest walk in the hills! I have friends who have bought other prams and not liked them - i would definately buy the quinny buzz again if i had to make the choice again! Its easy to fit the maxicosi car seat onto, or to change for the proper pram seat or carrycot.Hope this helps
  No Posted on 19 May 2011 09:06:36 BDT
  S. Whatling says:
  Before our son was born in December we invested in a Quinny Buzz 3 wheeler, plus all the extras, including the Dreami Pram thingy and the Pebble car seat (we belatedly got the FamilyFix base for the latter and I wish I'd bought that from the start as it's brilliant and would have saved a lot of stressful messing about with seatbelts!) The Quinny is great fun to push but not without its faults. It's quite big and is too wide to fit through the doorways of our old cottage, which means always folding/unfolding it outside. It's also very heavy (something to bear in mind, particularly after a c-section) and takes up a lot of space even when folded. Instruction manuals for most of the bits are awful.We live in quite a hillly town and although it's good on slopes, it's hopeless for going up and down steps. Off road it's not bad on well-kept forest paths - but tussocky grass, tree-roots, gravel or shingle will stop it in its tracks. Living in Kent we got the chance to test it in the snow in January and it copes fine provided there is less than ~two inches. Any more than that and you'd need the bigger wheels (optional extras) at the front. Although some aspects of the design and construction are really impressive, it also has a number of badly thought-out mechanical weak spots. The plastic clip which holds it closed is particularly poor and has a habit of releasing at random moments while I'm carrying the folded base. The plastic adapters for the pebble are very poorly made and loose fitting, although the release catches are incredibly stiff and on one occasion needed a tap with a hammer before they'd release.Rain covers (which are 'optional' extras) are very badly designed - robust enough but difficult to fold neatly, very bulky when folded and prone to coming off in strong winds.To cut a long story short, after nearly five months we have just bought a Maclaren Quest Sport for everyday use. According to the lady in Mothercare, quite a lot of her customers who buy the Maclaren already have a Quinny, which I think says a lot about their usefulness, or lack thereof. We'll keep the Quinny for gentle walks in the park - but for more serious country walks I'll stick to a sling or ruck-sack style carrier.
  No Posted on 20 May 2011 23:58:12 BDT
  Hi. My daughter is 2 years old now and we have been used a Bugaboo Camaleon, quite happily. If you need to use it on snow or rough terrain, it is recommended that you fold the front wheels (very easily done) and use it like a cart...I have to say, it is very light and easy to manouvre. We live in rural hilly Ireland and worked just fine. If you travel a lot it's a bit bulky to fold. However, for off-track walks we have used a baby carrier. When smaller, we used the Baby Bjiorg, while we are using a front or back Ergo carrier happily now. The plus on travel systems is that the pram is confy and completely flat on the baby's back, and you can turn it to look at you. I think this point is very important to consider, as the world s big and scary and for a tiny baby looking at mum and dad smiling is reassuring.
  No Posted on 25 May 2011 13:28:48 BDT
  My wife and I did a LOT of research and decided eventually on the iCandy Cherry. It is brilliant - loads of storage underneath, well made, lightweight and easy to use. The Quinny was on our list but we felt it was too heavy (due to the automatic pneumatic unfolding mechanism) and there was insufficient storage underneath. The only drawback is that you can't buy them new online, although we got a great deal on ebay. Also fits Maxi-cosi car seat with adapters, which cost an extra �30 (!)
  No Posted on 27 May 2011 22:51:04 BDT
  B. L. Moran says:
  I have an iCandy Cherry & I love it! We have the Maxi Cosi adaptors too. I walk in the park & across grass/gravel with no problems.
  No Posted on 29 May 2011 20:28:26 BDT
  Rosemary A. Lawrence says:
  I love my iCandy Cherry too, also an ebay buy. It's great in tandem with the maxi cosi and the adaptors are easy to use - a worth while investment. My little girl is 9months now and very warm and snug in the iCandy with foot muff etc. Plenty of storage underneath. Coped fine with the snowfalls in Britain but only lasted for a few weeks here so not the same as Finland I'd imagine. Best wishes for you and your little one. Exciting times!
  No Posted on 30 May 2011 21:53:20 BDT
  We bought a Nipper single 360. It is great off road, and goes from birth to about 3 years. It is light (only 7kg) and collapses and goes up again in seconds. It isn't the most stylish of pushchairs - but I am very smug about my choice, every time I see the girls from my NCT class struggle with their huge unwieldy pushchairs that they can barely lift. It also costs a third of what theirs did.We got the pebble car seat, and I haven't missed not having a travel system - but I tend to do a lot of walking, and mainly walk to the shops. Transferring my daughter in and out of the car is easy, and she is a lot happier in the pushchair than in the car seat.
  No Posted on 31 May 2011 14:04:01 BDT
  Hi, I did a lot of searching too and settled on the Babystyle Oyster system. my only regret is not buying the cabrio fix car seat system for it as it is back-breaking to get the car seat in and out of the car! It will take maxi-cosy with adaptors (the oyster own car seat requires adaptors too). I have found it easy to set up and far lighter (not to mention cheaper) than the other travel systems i looked at. it is also a bit smaller than the expensive huge travel systems therefore easy to get in and out of narrow shop doorways etc.. I found very few negative reviews for it online. Not sure how it would do on snow though. It comes with foam wheels but for around �25 you can get air-filled ones so that might help (very easy to get wheels on and off too) My baby is only two months old so not tried it with the main pushchair attachment, only with the car seat and carrycot. Apparently lots of people get fed up with the big heavy travel systems after a short time and go for smaller more portable buggys! Even with mine, with the carrycot, it fits into the boot of an estate car with not much space left for other stuff. Hope that helps.
  No Posted on 31 May 2011 22:37:12 BDT
  Hey I just randomly saw this, I would recommend the quinny buzz if you have snow, or the baby jogger city select. They will both take the maxi cosi with adaptors. It depends on your budget, but I am loving our new baby jogger - we use it for our 2 - it converts easily from a single to tandem pram (maybe if you have any ideas on a second yet?!!!) but as a single it's brilliant - very sturdy, amazing front and rear tyres, a huge shopping basket -the ease of use is fantastic. It is at the top end but I really would recommend something heavy duty like this, that will take your car-seat and adapt as little one gets older etc. http://www.babyjogger.com/city_select_lp.aspx check it outGood luck with your beautiful new baby whichever pram you go for - I would definitely recommend the one that has the option of parent facing as they get older. It has been invaluable to us, being able to talk to our first born for 2 years and she know speaks so well for her age, i put a lot of it down to the interaction we've had with her facing us since she was born.x
  No Posted on 1 Jun 2011 14:26:09 BDT
  Thank you all for your inputs - really helpful! I have now bought a Quinny Buzz with maxi cosi adapters as this was the overwhelming favorite from the reccomendations. Also online reviews in other forums were great for this...
  No In reply to an earlier post on 4 Jun 2011 12:28:42 BDT
  C. Bunce says:
  I'm not sure about travel systems - we had a "skate" which the car seat just clipped into but having had a fair bit of snow here this year I can say that my buggy (swapped the skate at 4 months old!) was great as has bigger wheels and is a 3 wheeler. Its a redcastle sport one but I think if you look for a jogging buggy they all have big wheels. Having watched friends struggle through the snow with their expensive models I was very very pleased with the redcastle! (think its french)
  No Posted on 5 Jun 2011 08:09:20 BDT
  I have an icandy apple, it has really good wheels and suspension, we live in the middle of nowhere and the nearest tarmac road is over a 1km away and it's brilliant it really just glides, I find it so easy to push especially as the front 2 wheels can be locked into position. The maxi cosi car seat fits onto the frame too.However, this is a very heavy pram and takes up a lot of boot space, before we had a fiat grande punto and it was a squeeze but the rear wheels do very easily clip off and we now have a landrover so now there's lots of space. It is also heavy but it is such a well made pushchair, so sturdy. I looked at some of the mamas and papas prams and they just seem so plasticky in comparison. I have also seen the Quinny buzz and Bugaboo which both have good sturdy frames and good wheels for snow.
  No In reply to an earlier post on 5 Jun 2011 10:46:05 BDT
  Westworlds says:
  Bugaboo Cameleon great system expensive but very worth it.And a great resale value...
  No Posted on 6 Jun 2011 22:15:48 BDT
  maxi cosi mura 3 or 4 wheeled version car seat can be used on it with adaptors which come with it forward and rear facing and lay flat my son loves it
  No Posted on 17 Jun 2011 11:54:03 BDT
  Buzz 3 is great until the front wheel stops turning, usually in shops and supermarkets. It gets grit in the bearings and if you don't keep it clean it will drive you mad!The 2011 version is much better than the previous (you can tell if it came with the shopping basket underneath its 2011)...Good luck!
  No Posted on 19 Jun 2011 16:29:09 BDT
  We have a Stokke Xplory, and the Pebble car seat fits easily onto it. Really highly rate this one, it's beautiful and George looks blissed-out whenever he's in it. We also bought a Quinny Zapp Xtra as a lightweight one for the Mother in law but given the choice I use the Xplory every day.
  No In reply to an earlier post on 5 Jul 2011 14:47:09 BDT
  Anil, I had all those questions. Recommend going for Stokke. Slightly expensive but fits with Maxi Cosi car seat and ideal for Nordic region..
  No Posted on 3 Mar 2012 18:46:55 GMT
  Stephanie Clifton says:
  The cheap option, Tesco car seat carrier 25 quid until the baby is old enough to get a 30 quid buggy asda. I would have liked the Quinny buzz as it folds down easily, three large wheels to steer with one hand, shopping basket and can be used as a buggy later on. I think it is a good idea to either spend alot on the pushchair in the beginning, as I ended up buying 4, as they weren't suitable. Too large, too heavy, difficult to maneouvre,difficult to carry with one hand or fold down.Or remember : How are you going to use it?..Mainly car journeys then shops = Must fit in the boot. The weather, will it be warm enough/too hot? Bus journeys, needs to be compact. You may need to fold the buggy one handedly, is this possible? Can you carry it? The stages of baby, around 8 months you dont need a fancy pushchair, just lightweight easy to use pram.