text: Interview with Russ and Kyle Allen of the Brothers of the Serpent podcast. Interview was recorded on August 14, 2019. Link to the iTunes page where you can download the audio file of the interview. Link to my blog post with show notes and some links to previous posts containing more discussion for those interested.
  Return visit to Skeptiko with Alex Tsakiris. Interview was recorded August 15, 2019. Link to Skeptiko page about the interview. Link to iTunes page where you can download an audio file (look for interview #426). Link to show notes.