text: Users Want Windows 10 to Be Bloatware-Free - Page 2 - Windows 10 Forums
  Last edited by M1GU31; 02 Feb 2015 at 17:41.
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  I've never seen any definitive proof that bloatware actually lowers the cost of computers for the purchaser.
  OTOH, I have no doubt that it adds to OEM profits.
  Takes like 10 mins tops assuming you know what you're doing to get rid of bloatware on a preinstalled os. Not that big of a deal.
  Does that actually return your install to "pristine" condition?
  It seems to me that most uninstallers can't remove/reverse the changes that the installers have made (especially crapware).
  Depending on the OEM and grade quality of the PC. I know that ASUS' bloatware is limited to their few little things they have here and there, not a lot of bloat at all and not really worth reinstalling an OS from scratch.
  Toshiba on the other hand, especially their lower end stuff, is loaded with bloatware and crapware up the hoo-ha. For me, it's actually easier and faster to just redeploy Windows through DISM and go from there; it literally can take three minutes tops to deploy out my customized image hard drive to hard drive and then maybe 10 tops for drivers to be loaded onto the PC.
  HP is kind of in the middle between ASUS and Toshiba. It depends.
  The problem with that is a clean install will wipe your factory restore capabilities, no one should have to do that, just to get a bloatware free system. Why people insist on defending company tactics like this is beyond me. If more people stood up and said enough is enough the companies would stop doing it.
  I see no problem here (with exception of it voiding warranty, but it should not void hardware warranty). If someone can do clean reinstall its not that difficult to make image backup of clean system that is better than factory restore where you probably restore system with all pre-installed bloat ware, also when making image you can choose where to store it, for example on external storage so that even on HDD failure you can replace HDD and restore your system. There is tutorial how to make system image with free macrium
  You can choose other software free or paid that fits your needs best.
  As people have said it's a very simple job to get rid of bloat and crapware on a new machine with pre-installed Windows.
  ALWAYS though IMAGE the OEM hidden partition -- then you can also delete that too. If you need to return the machine back to the store simply RESTORE the OEM partition and then use the OEM restore (i.e 2 restores - first the OEM partition and then use the OEM version of restore to reset the machine back to store state).
  People who want to get rid of it will log on to Forums like this or ask people they know. Other people won't be bothered. (Rather like people sticking with the SAME Bank they have had for 20 - 30 years or more even when a simple switch would give them a much better service and deal).
  A savvy buyer these days can often negotiate a deal when buying a PC to get a RETAIL copy of the OS thrown in too. However if you do that remember the PC might have a special driver or two in it so re-installing a brand new retail version isn't always 100% as easy as it sounds. It's always easy to REMOVE the bloatware though. You don't need these 3rd party things like PC de-crapifier or whatever -- don't start off a NEW PC by letting things mess around with the registry --simply use Programs and features.
  New 03 Feb 2015 #18
  Hopefully we can figure out to do a OEM Clean Install, as was the case with Windows 7. I think the success of that will depend on whether we still use a traditional COA product key to activate the installation....Im unsure of whether that has been determined yet.