When asked what ship the Newcastle was, he did not know, but accepted that she was the Constitution, saying only that she was not painted as she used to be.
Xa waye ebuzwa okokuba yiyiphi inqanawa iNewcastle, akazange ayazi, kodwa wamkela okokuba waye eyiConstitution, esitsho okokuba yaye ingapeyintwanga ngohlobo ayaye ilulo.