In other words, before it is created [or after it is destroyed], a real thing is not in the universe, does not affect the universe, and is not affected by the universe.
Kwa maneno mengine, kabla hakijaumbwa [au baaday ya kuharibiwa], kitu halisi hakipo ulimwenguni, hakiuathiri ulimwengu, na hakiathiriki na ulimwengu.