The same across the Ukraine, by the way, the old Soviet bloc countries, the same handfuls of in-the-crowd people; the same bunch, actually, that are often related to each other, run all the stuff over there. So they’ve got to get to an agreement, to their cousins that run the States, so that they can work out how this future is going to go, you see.
Hivyo pia katika Ukraine, taifa za Kisovyeti za kitambo, watu wa umati, hawa watu, kwa kweli, wanatoka familia moja na wanaongoza kila kitu huku.