Below is an instruction that describes a task. Write a response that appropriately completes the request.

### Instruction:
What is the draw number of the Artist Dav Mcnamara and a place bigger than 4?

### Inputs:
table_name: table, columns: ['Draw', 'Artist', 'Song', 'Points', 'Place']

### Response:
SELECT COUNT Draw FROM table WHERE Artist = dav mcnamara AND Place > 4