" August 2006 (UTC)

I disagree  by which I mean that when you tell me that I will more often than not find the db casually defined as a member of the violin family, I have NOT found this to be true.  People I know casually and not-so-casually define it as a member of the strings  and bassists I know are pointed about the fact that they aren't part of the ""violin family"". If I had not found this to be the case, I would never have postulated that the phrase ""modern violin family"" originated in wikipedia.  So, now we need some bit of research or some several citations in which professional musicians and/or musicologists refer to the double bass as part of the ""modern violin family"".  02:41, 31"