perhaps one of these notes to link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bradley_Manning/October_2013_move_request/Comments_unrelated_to_evidence#Notes for people who want contribute, with note that it is to help ensure discussion is framed in constructive way when it occur in few weeks time? link appears on above already, but is buried and hard to find. is good for helping with prepare for debate, people can make good contribution, and extra attention for how framing argument constructively can happen is only good. am not clear on intricacies of situation here, so am sorry if this doesn't make sense. only appear at quick glance to be okay compromise: effort made to not engender what some view as unnecessary discuss while raising awareness that conversation is only postpone, not cancel.