BertilVidet, nobody is talking about your promoscius homosexuality or attacking other contributors like the way you did with your delusions a few weeks ago. I am sure you are mature enough to tolerate this as not whitewashing and not demonizing you, but I can put up a wikipedia article and post all your misdemenaours and actions in your log history there if you want. So you can make a comparison between Mustafa kemal's critics and your own critics. Keep your hands off of good contributions of others and concentrate on your agent provacatour role in Turkey paid by the west to divide the country. Now have a great day for yourself.