Kammala jumla mai zuwa: Herr ya lashe gasar 1911 na Illinois Trophy Race da aka gudanar a kan hanyoyi na Elgin, Illinois da ke motsawa na kasa. A cikin 1912 Indianapolis 500 ya yi aiki a matsayin direba mai maye gurbin Joe Dawson daga zagaye na 108 zuwa 144. Bayan haka, Dawson ya koma cikin motar kuma ya ci gaba da nasara. Ba kamar tseren 1924 ba inda aka fara farawa da mai ba da gudummawa a matsayin masu cin nasara, Herr ba a lasafta shi a matsayin mai cin Indianapolis 500 ba saboda Dawson ya fara kuma ya gama tseren. Herr ya tuka motarsa a cikin
1913 Indianapolis 500 kuma ya fara na biyar kuma ya kammala zagaye bakwai ne kawai kafin ya fadi ta hanyar fashewar maɓallin maɓallin, yana tuki da Wisconsin powered Stutz. Wannan zai zama karo na karshe da zai fara gasar tsere.